Gun Thread: 2nd September Edition!

Howdy, Y'all! Welcome to the wondrously fabulous Gun Thread! As always, I want to thank all of our regulars for being here week in and week out, and also offer a bigly Gun Thread welcome to any newcomers who may be joining us tonight. Howdy and thank you for stopping by! I hope you find our wacky conversation on the subject of guns 'n shooting both enjoyable and informative. You are always welcome to lurk in the shadows of shame, but I'd like to invite you to jump into the conversation, say howdy, and tell us what kind of shooting you like to do!

Holy Shitballs! How in the ever-loving Hell did it get to be the 2nd edition of September? Quick note: the schedule for the TXMoMe is still being refined and will be posted here when available.

With that, step into the dojo and let's get to the gun stuff below, shall we?

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FUNdamentals

Fundamentals for the new shooter. Also for the old shooter. Also for the shooter warming up for the TXMoMe.

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Colt Variations vs. the 1911

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Flying With Firearms

If you're heading to Texas by air.

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Jet Gunnery

If you happen to have a jet.

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FUNdamentals of MoMe'n: TXMoMe X

They Mome'n down in Texas!

NOTE: No updates this week. Still working on the schedule.

The time has come to begin the discussion of the upcoming TXMoMe in Corsicana, TX on October 17-18. This is the TENTH annual TXMoMe, or Conservative Burning Man as it's popularly known, and it promises to be a doozy. If you're in either the Northern or Southern Hemisphere of the Planet of the Earth, contact Ben Had for details on attending. The dates and email links for all MoMes are always helpfully included on the blog's main page, left sidebar.

What started years ago as a small get-together and informal plinking session lasting a couple of hours has matured into a full scale jamboree-hootenanny including a program of shooting activities for both handguns and rifles over two days. I have to thank Ben Had, Cow Horse Queen and RancherBob for making this whole thing happen and providing the opportunity for the shooting to comprise such a significant portion of the event.

But wait! There's more! Combine that with world class food and drink, and the even world classier company of your fellow Morons, and you have a weekend that legends are made of. For those not inclined to shoot (?), there are non-stop opportunities to relax in the shade of the carport or under a handy nearby tree with a beverage and visit with your online pals to your hearts content, which is really what the whole damn thing is about in the first place..

Allow me to be serious for a minute. I have said this probably two hundred and fifty-seven times now. These gatherings are a really good time, and I know of no one who expresses regret after having attended one. Actually it goes beyond that. It's not just a weekend of laughs, it's an opportunity to connect with lots of like-minded people and create lasting friendships and priceless memories. No kidding. Think that's hyperbole? It snot. Would your ol' pal Weasel lie to you? Well, yes he would, but not about this. TXMoMe veterans will attest to the funness and completely laid-back nature of the event. Don't be a dork, do yourself a favor and get yo' ass to Texas!

Specifics of the Friday/Saturday schedule of activities will be posted here in the coming weeks, so stay tuned.

TXMoMe veterans: please jump into the comments to encourage the scairdy-cats to join in the fun! What was your first MoMe like? What were you expecting? Were you surprised? Did you have a great time?

Call for Volunteers
Help! As I mentioned above, the shooting program in Texas continues to grow, and we wouldn't be able to do it without a lot of help. If you're interested in lending a hand in some capacity, please drop me a note at gunthread at protonmail dot com indicating your date and time of arrival and we'll be in touch. Thank You!

RSOs from prior years: Expect an email from me soon.

If you are attending the TXMoMe this year, and all the cool kids are, please keep an eye on this section for important information and updates in the coming weeks! I also want to reiterate the TXMoMe is not a gun thing with some socializing attached, but rather is a social thing with some shooting attached. If you aren't a shooter, I guarantee you will not feel out of place and will have a great time. No fooling!

Are all y'all getting excited? Weasel are!!

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Our Pal The Battery

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Highway Patrol

This week's episode: Lookout

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The Wizard of Mars!

Rerun? I can't recall.

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Cigar of the Week

This week our pal Diogenes scores again with this excellent re-review of the CAO Pilon Robusto.

Many of you will recall the review of the Pilon from just after New Years. I figured since I had another in the humidor, it as time to revisit this very fine cigar.
So I did.
As with most cigars, the Pilon starts with a burst of flavors with nuts, cinnamon, and pepper dominating. In the background there is a smoother creaminess and an almost raisin-like hint that will emerge later in the cigar. I found the draw to be smooth and easy with a satisfying amount of smoke and aroma. The ash showed a good burn and there was no flaking. There were no flaws in the construction of the stick I smoked.
The second third of the smoke brought forth that creaminess I mentioned with a definite dampening of the peppery side. There was a nice coffee flavor there as well. The ash remained tight and the draw as easy as the start.
The final third was just as enjoyable with the flavors merging into a deeper tone of tobacco providing a smooth finish. Typically for cigars that I am really enjoying I peel the paper ring off so I an smoke it longer. I did wo with the Pilon.
I like this cigar. It is a medium strength cigar and Nicaraguan in origin that include the binder and filler. The wrapper is Ecuadorian Habano. A great smoke that at about $6.00 doesn't break the bank, and it is one that you will look forward to for the next time. I won't wait until New Years for the next one.

Excellent as always, Diogenes! I really appreciate it! Thank you!

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Here are some different online cigar vendors. You will find they not only carry different brands and different lines from those brands, but also varying selections of vitolas (sizes/shapes) of given lines. It's good to have options, especially if you're looking for a specific cigar.

Cigarsinternational.com
Cigarpage.com
Famous-smoke.com
Cigarsdaily.com
Neptunecigar.com
Smallbatchcigar.com
Bobalu Cigar Company
Cigarbid.com
Nicks Cigar World New!

A note about sources. The brick & mortar/online divide exists with cigars, as with guns, and most consumer products, with respect to price. As with guns - since both are "persecuted industries", basically - I make a conscious effort to source at least some of my cigars from my local store(s). It's a small thing, but the brick & mortar segment for both guns and tobacco are precious, and worth supporting where you can. And if you're lucky enough to have a good cigar store/lounge available, they're often a good social event with many dangerous people of the sort who own scary gunz, or read smart military blogs like this one. -rhomboid

Anyone have others to include? Perhaps a small local roller who makes a cigar you like? Send me your recommendation and a link to the site!

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Ammo Link-O-Rama
I'm really very seriously not kidding around anymore. Buy Ammo
AmmoSeek - online ammo search tool
GunBot - online ammo search tool
SG Ammo
Palmetto State Armory
Georgia Arms
AmmoMan
Target Sports USA
Bud's Gun Shop
American Elite Ammo
Lucky Gunner Ammo NEW!

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Please note the new and improved protonmail account gunthread at protonmail dot com. An informal Gun Thread archive can be found HERE. Future expansion plans are in the works for the site Weasel Gun Thread. If you have a question you would like to ask Gun Thread Staff offline, just send us a note and we'll do our best to answer. If you care to share the story of your favorite firearm, send a picture with your nic and tell us what you sadly lost in the tragic canoe accident. If you would like to remain completely anonymous, just say so. Lurkers are always welcome!

That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

Posted by: Weasel at 07:00 PM

Comments

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1 Yay! Gubs!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 14, 2025 07:00 PM (Wnv9h)

2 Good evening everyone

Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2025 07:00 PM (+qU29)

3 bang

Posted by: Eromero at September 14, 2025 07:01 PM (LHPAg)

4 The Others have been summoned.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 14, 2025 07:01 PM (Wnv9h)

5 My Colt is a 80 series, will take a look at that video

Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2025 07:02 PM (+qU29)

6 I love the X graphic. That would be great on a t-shirt.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 14, 2025 07:03 PM (Wnv9h)

7 Others are arriving

Posted by: rickb223 at September 14, 2025 07:03 PM (hx5BH)

8 I love the X graphic. That would be great on a t-shirt.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState

Yes it would!

Posted by: rickb223 at September 14, 2025 07:04 PM (hx5BH)

9 Good Sunday evening, gub 'ettes and 'rons, and a special wake-me-up-when-September-ends greeting to our host Weasel.

Looking forward to October and TXMoMe!

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at September 14, 2025 07:04 PM (v23vE)

10 Howdy Weasel, well done as always!

Posted by: Rancherbob at September 14, 2025 07:04 PM (2SEtz)

11 I see where Everytown is trying to pass itself off as a firearms training organization now. I'll pay the twenty bucks for someone else to take one of their online courses and report back to us. I don't think I could make it through myself.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 14, 2025 07:06 PM (y7oS7)

12 At least Colt never put a Hillary! hole on the 1911.

Or the SAA, or the Python.

OTOH, Colt never made anything in .41 Magnum. Sad!

.41 Colt does not count.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 14, 2025 07:06 PM (0sNs1)

13 I actually had range time today.

Also, anyone else having issues with X not letting you see Xeets unless you login?

Posted by: GWB at September 14, 2025 07:06 PM (RTQn+)

14 GWB: swap "x.com" for nitter.net or xcancel.com

Posted by: gKWVE at September 14, 2025 07:07 PM (gKWVE)

15 Making me a target holder for putting out in the pasture.

Three 1/2 inch, forty eight inch long galvanized pipe with T fittings instead of elbows, making an upside down square U going to two threaded floor flanges mounted on 2x6's. Use it to hang steel plates.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 14, 2025 07:08 PM (hx5BH)

16 Also, anyone else having issues with X not letting you see Xeets unless you login?

They may be more restrictive due to recent... events. Try replacing x.com with xcancel.com.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 14, 2025 07:09 PM (y7oS7)

17 I think we're going to have to freeze TxMoMe numbering at X, so Weasel can reuse the graphic, rather than having the artist recreate it every year.

Poor bluebell has to make the same cake every year for the GT Anniversary Bacchanalia Bash & Fundamentals Festival.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 14, 2025 07:10 PM (0sNs1)

18 Posted by: Rancherbob at September 14, 2025 07:04 PM (2SEtz)
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Thank you!

Posted by: Weasel at September 14, 2025 07:10 PM (kJuzF)

19 Also, anyone else having issues with X not letting you see Xeets unless you login?
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Yes.

Also, sites that use Cloudflare.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 14, 2025 07:12 PM (XeU6L)

20 Yay Gub Thread! I've finally been relieved of Sunday night bath and bedtime duty. Been a minute, for sure.

Back in June I got a chronograph, and I've been having fun putting various guns 'on the clock.' Some fun comparisons and I'm creating as spreadsheet of my practical findings.

Anyhow, yesterday's test pitted a Romanian Tokarev vs a rebuilt C96 Broomhandle.
[Invokes Paul Harrell's spirit]

For the Tokarev, we'll use S&B 85 grain full metal jacket. I don't have any S&B Mauser ammo, but I do have this PP 85 grain, full metal jacket, which is close enough.

Did the Tokarev's higher energy give it more velocity than the 5.9" barrel on the C96s? What do you think?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 14, 2025 07:12 PM (ZOv7s)

21 Posted by: Rancherbob at September 14, 2025 07:04 PM

Looking forward to seeing y'all next month!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 14, 2025 07:13 PM (Wnv9h)

22 I have a NIB Gold Cup, 70 Series (of course)

Posted by: Gref at September 14, 2025 07:14 PM (5rh/l)

23 Bummer! Learned a couple of days ago that 'Guns' and 'American Handgunner' magazines will discontinue their paper copies and go all digital and streaming. Same thing happened with Backwoodsman. Printing and mailing costs are just too high. They are good magazines but I dropped my subscription a while back because they seldom covered the topics that interest me, especially after Mike Venturino passed.

Just FYI.

Posted by: JTB at September 14, 2025 07:14 PM (yTvNw)

24 .41 Colt does not count.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 14, 2025 07:06 PM (0sNs1)
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I've recently joined the .41 club.

No, not .41 magnum, I got an IMI Jericho with an extra .41 Auto Express barrel. Ammo is...scarce.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 14, 2025 07:15 PM (ZOv7s)

25 Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 14, 2025 07:10 PM (0sNs1)
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It took a few tries but I'm happy with the way the X came out.

Posted by: Weasel at September 14, 2025 07:15 PM (kJuzF)

26 Oops, for got the old nick.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at September 14, 2025 07:15 PM (ZOv7s)

27 Howdy!

Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by pew pew at September 14, 2025 07:16 PM (sAmhv)

28 Good evening Horde. Thanks Weasel-san!

Posted by: TRex - X marks the spot at September 14, 2025 07:16 PM (PDUpY)

29 Posted by: Gref at September 14, 2025 07:14 PM (5rh/l)
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I'm lucky enough to have a pre-70 National Match.

Posted by: Weasel at September 14, 2025 07:17 PM (kJuzF)

30 Whoa! This is a Genuine Weaseliciously-good column … !

Posted by: Dr_No at September 14, 2025 07:18 PM (ayRl+)

31 Bummer! Learned a couple of days ago that 'Guns' and 'American Handgunner' magazines will discontinue their paper copies and go all digital and streaming.

Worldwide use of "ULTIMATE" drops by 50%.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 14, 2025 07:18 PM (vqCZJ)

32 In honor of Charlie Kirk, I'm adding some rifle work to each range session in addition to my defensive pistol drills.

This week, discovered one of my Pmags doesn't want to feed naturally into my BCM AR. Luckily my other Gen 2 PMAG fed fine. Odd but good to know now.

25 yards with an StrikeEagle optic, everything is going into a head sized target for me and the Nurse.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at September 14, 2025 07:19 PM (xcxpd)

33 OK, that "new step" wasn't really anything the TSA is adding. It's a protective step.

My BIG question would be, "How the heck did anyone get INTO his gun case? Wasn't it LOCKED?"

Posted by: GWB at September 14, 2025 07:19 PM (RTQn+)

34 24 .41 Colt does not count.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 14, 2025 07:06 PM (0sNs1)
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I've recently joined the .41 club.

No, not .41 magnum, I got an IMI Jericho with an extra .41 Auto Express barrel. Ammo is...scarce.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 14, 2025 07:15 PM (ZOv7s)

Somewhere I have a .41 AE bbl and mag for a Hi-Power. I think I have a few boxes of ammo. Bought it all at least 30 years ago. I guess I should look for this stuff. And look for some .41 AE ammo. And/or dies/brass/bullets.

Posted by: Gref at September 14, 2025 07:20 PM (5rh/l)

35 Oh and I fly regularly with a sidearm, unless I'm going to some shithole like Chicago. I get to SEATAC a little bit early and haven't had any trouble transporting my sidearm or freedom seeds.

Savannah, here I come.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at September 14, 2025 07:21 PM (xcxpd)

36 Cigar question: anyone have experience with the Perfect Draw gadget? Supposedly fixes plugged sticks. I have a few that I like, but they seem to be tough draws too often. Be great if that worked!

Posted by: YellowBird at September 14, 2025 07:22 PM (MEbkQ)

37 No, not .41 magnum, I got an IMI Jericho with an extra .41 Auto Express barrel. Ammo is...scarce.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 14, 2025 07:15 PM

I *might* have some brass stashed. I'll check this week.

Can you take if from there?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 14, 2025 07:22 PM (0sNs1)

38 Posted by: GWB at September 14, 2025 07:19 PM (RTQn+)
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I didn't hear anything really new either, but thought it was timely.

One thing I used to do with my match guns is put zip ties through all the lock holes after the TSA inspection. That way I could tell immediately if it had been opened.

Posted by: Weasel at September 14, 2025 07:22 PM (kJuzF)

39 No, not .41 magnum, I got an IMI Jericho with an extra .41 Auto Express barrel. Ammo is...scarce.

https://ammoseek.com/ ammo/41action-express (delete space after com/)

Yikes. Better look into reloading.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 14, 2025 07:22 PM (DA6BE)

40 It took a few tries but I'm happy with the way the X came out.
Posted by: Weasel at September 14, 2025 07:15 PM

So say we all!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 14, 2025 07:22 PM (0sNs1)

41 I'm lucky enough to have a pre-70 National Match.
Posted by: Weasel at September 14, 2025 07:17 PM (kJuzF)

You are lucky.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at September 14, 2025 07:23 PM (xcxpd)

42 Which poly 9mm full size pistol in the$600 range should I get? Looked at CZ, Barreta, Springfield and a couple others. Prefer non sticker, like the double single concept.

Posted by: sTevo at September 14, 2025 07:24 PM (HNXEw)

43
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at September 14, 2025 07:23 PM (xcxpd)
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In more ways than one!

I have a Colt letter for the gun and it was sold by the Jovino gun shop in NYC.

Posted by: Weasel at September 14, 2025 07:25 PM (kJuzF)

44 What a fantastic day. The DMVMGC rides again or maybe should be shoots again.
Blaster, Sra Blaster, Hrothgar, Ed , Iris and me hit the range this afternoon. It's been awhile. But I am walking almost normally, shot really well considering the layoff. Funny thing though, needed the eye patch off and on.
I think by Texas, I will be 💃

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 14, 2025 07:26 PM (t/2Uw)

45 About the TxMoMe, are there any informal events on Thursday? Is that a set-up day?

I started a new job and will have very little PTO accumulated. I'm going to have to fly in. I also would love to spend a day in the DFW area to see my dad. So I'm having to plan this kinda tighter than I wanted. (It's also going to reduce the "arsenal" I was going to bring, and I will have to buy some ammo along the way.)

Posted by: GWB at September 14, 2025 07:26 PM (RTQn+)

46 Great review Diogenes. Another stick I know of but have not yet tried. The list grows again.

Rocky Patel Number 6 on the porch with coffee. First half of day down on the bay watching powerboat racing. Just a brief bit with the jet-powered ones (“thunderboats”

. Recall as a kid you could hear them miles away in my backyard.

What’s burnin tonight tovarishchi?

Posted by: rhomboid at September 14, 2025 07:26 PM (vlJl4)

47 Been getting that banned from X until you join X lately

Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2025 07:26 PM (+qU29)

48 Oh wait. Is "Action Express" the same thing as "Auto Express?" I just bingled ".41 AE."

Posted by: Oddbob at September 14, 2025 07:26 PM (DA6BE)

49 I have a Colt letter for the gun and it was sold by the Jovino gun shop in NYC.
Posted by: Weasel
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That's pretty cool. And thanks for the great content, Weasel.

Posted by: scampydog at September 14, 2025 07:27 PM (mMWDg)

50 I had a Mark IV, Series 70 Govt. Model until my canoe overturned one windy day... I obtained said pistol from a young sailor who's new girlfriend would not allow a pistol in the house. I wish I still had that essentially new firearm...

Posted by: 625Boatrider at September 14, 2025 07:27 PM (nN+lv)

51 "79 in Lookout"?!
I hope that's height and not... ummm, "foot size"....

Posted by: GWB at September 14, 2025 07:27 PM (RTQn+)

52 Howdy weasel! Thanks for the thread.

Took the Pointman 7 put again. It now has 250 rounds through it. What a joy to shoot. #1 son shot it as well and did great!

Then we went to breakfast. He got chicken fried ateak and eggs and I got the biscuits and gravy with eggs over easy.

A very good day.

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 14, 2025 07:27 PM (mT+6a)

53 In more ways than one!

I have a Colt letter for the gun and it was sold by the Jovino gun shop in NYC.
Posted by: Weasel at September 14, 2025 07:25 PM (kJuzF)

That is pretty cool.

If I was a time traveler, getting one of those or a Colt Gold Cup Match series 70 would be my EDC...at least until the CZ 75 appears in the West.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at September 14, 2025 07:27 PM (xcxpd)

54 Posted by: rhomboid at September 14, 2025 07:26 PM (vlJl4)
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Just my usual!

Posted by: Weasel at September 14, 2025 07:27 PM (kJuzF)

55 52 Howdy weasel! Thanks for the thread.

Took the Pointman 7 put again. It now has 250 rounds through it. What a joy to shoot. #1 son shot it as well and did great!

Then we went to breakfast. He got chicken fried ateak and eggs and I got the biscuits and gravy with eggs over easy.

A very good day.
Posted by: nurse ratched at September 14, 2025 07:27 PM (mT+6a)

No pancakes?

I should have gone with you, show you how its done...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at September 14, 2025 07:28 PM (xcxpd)

56 Oh and pistol drills yesterday were with the church gun (PSA Micro Dagger) did well, again.

Sticking with the 147 grain loads.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at September 14, 2025 07:29 PM (xcxpd)

57 Hello, Weasel!

Posted by: Ed L at September 14, 2025 07:29 PM (BCwQW)

58 Posted by: GWB at September 14, 2025 07:26 PM (RTQn+)
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Schedule is still being worked on, but likely nothing on Thursday until late afternoon/evening.

Posted by: Weasel at September 14, 2025 07:30 PM (kJuzF)

59 Happy gun thread, all.

Posted by: 496 at September 14, 2025 07:30 PM (4MR3n)

60 As to range time, today, ugh.

I felt all kinds of stressed ad it showed.
Also, I have a REALLY bad habit of anticipating, no matter the caliber. I could stop it sometimes, but not always.

The rest of the range report will be going to Weasel in an email this week, as it was my first outing with my new Beretta 30X Tomcat "Get Home Bag" edition. BLUF: I like it, but I definitely need to work those fundamentals. (I think I need me a .22 semi to do that.)

Posted by: GWB at September 14, 2025 07:30 PM (RTQn+)

61 I *might* have some brass stashed. I'll check this week.

Can you take if from there?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 14, 2025 07:22 PM (0sNs1)
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Thank you! That's very kind. The pistol came in 9mm, and I bought the conversion kit because I'm a completionist. It came with an unopened box (50 rounds( of vintage ammo, so I can save that brass as well.

The kit seller had lots of options, so I went with a 5" ported, because it looks wickedly cool.

The Jericho cost $250 w/shipping and FFL. Heck of a deal as far as I'm concerned. Shoots real nice, but not as good as a SIG P226.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at September 14, 2025 07:30 PM (ZOv7s)

62 During the vigil for Charlie Kirk in Boise last week, there was an incident where an idiot looking for attention got some. Videos hit the Internet, and while watching I spotted an interesting looking character among the spectators.

It was a warm evening, everybody else was in t-shirts, but he was wearing a bulky vest. He kept his distance from the altercation, and seemed to be watching everything except the fight while uniformed police broke it up.

I figure he was either a plainclothes cop or a well armed concerned citizen. If I could spot him from shaky video after the fact, he probably greatly stood out in real life.

Just something to think about should you find yourself in a similar situation.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at September 14, 2025 07:30 PM (acXKL)

63 Also, sites that use Cloudflare.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 14, 2025 07:12 PM (XeU6L)

Yeah, it did a Cloudflare "prove you're human" thing before letting me in... to the login page. Grrrrr.

Posted by: GWB at September 14, 2025 07:31 PM (RTQn+)

64 YellowBird, have heard only good things about the PerfectDraw. Personally I use a temperature probe from my old ovens on the (rarely encountered, thankfully) plugged sticks. Doubles as a nubber, nice little plastic handle at the end. But that’s the ridiculous improvising reloader in me.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 14, 2025 07:33 PM (vlJl4)

65 "Did you have a great time?"

* Raises paw*

Damn straight, Skippy!

Looking forward to doing it again this year.

The folks who dedicate the time and effort to put this together are absolutely amazing.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 14, 2025 07:33 PM (a1415)

66 And, now, the problem has disappeared (before I could try the xcancel bit).

Posted by: GWB at September 14, 2025 07:33 PM (RTQn+)

67 When wearing a vest as covering garment, think OR or REI instead of Ducks Unlimited.

I'm going more with Aloha shirts or flannel shirts nowadays, if I'm not wearing a jacket.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at September 14, 2025 07:33 PM (xcxpd)

68 Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 14, 2025 07:26 PM

Sharon, are you brining any smaller framed pistols this year? One of our female club members was suggesting yesterday that the RMBS Mom try something a little smaller framed.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 14, 2025 07:34 PM (Wnv9h)

69 >Jet Gunnery--If you happen to have a jet.

Lord almighty how I miss that!

See y'all in TX next month. Unfortunately due to the logistics involved in getting from point A ("Somewhere in Central Europe") to point B (the MoMe), I will be unable to retrieve anything from the mysterious body of water in which the tragic canoe accident occurred beforehand to bring along.

Posted by: SPinRH_F-16 at September 14, 2025 07:35 PM (+Axys)

70 Jet gunnery ---Yikes. That's going to require a few viewings to absorb.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 14, 2025 07:35 PM (XeU6L)

71 Received a Remington Rand (April, 1945 production), .45 Colt pistol from the CMP (Civilian Marksmanship Program), a year or so ago. It's a wonderful weapon, a pleasure to shoot and a very real, historic firearm. The CMP has a bunch of such pistols available for those interested. Check out their website for pricing if you are interested.

Posted by: 625Boatrider at September 14, 2025 07:37 PM (nN+lv)

72 TXMoMe veterans: please jump into the comments to encourage the scairdy-cats to join in the fun! What was your first MoMe like? What were you expecting? Were you surprised? Did you have a great time?

*channels inner Zod*

You will go to the TXMoMe. You will have an amazing time. You will do this ~~now~~ in October.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 14, 2025 07:37 PM (Wnv9h)

73 Miss you, Zod.

Hope you are well. Any time I read Faulkner, I think of Zod.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at September 14, 2025 07:39 PM (xcxpd)

74 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 14, 2025 07:35 PM (XeU6L)
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Plus doing all of that while not flying into something hard!

Posted by: Weasel at September 14, 2025 07:39 PM (kJuzF)

75 Miss you, Zod.

Hope you are well. Any time I read Faulkner, I think of Zod.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at September 14, 2025 07:39 PM

He's been in every so often. Sounds like he's doing well at the new Festung Zod.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 14, 2025 07:40 PM (Wnv9h)

76 Sharon took a turn with the .32 ACP Walther PPK today. She even shot it one-handed, and still got 3 of 5 shots into the colored area of the target at 6 yards. Blaster and Hrothgar test drove the Colt Kodiak revolver w/ .44 Specials. Recoil/kick was practically non-existent and very easy to control, given that the Kodiak is a big bore revolver w/ a 4.25" barrel.

Posted by: Ed L at September 14, 2025 07:41 PM (BCwQW)

77 Finally ran out of 200g SWCs for my 45 reloading, and surprised to see my regular source (Missouri Bullet) is now same $ as equivalent plated elsewhere.

So going to switch to 230g RN plated. No specific data for HP38 but with low-pressure calibers I have found just a bit below max for FMJ serves as a good ceiling, and I always load for reliable cycling/basic accuracy and not not power factor anyway.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 14, 2025 07:41 PM (vlJl4)

78 Posted by: Ed L at September 14, 2025 07:41 PM

Nice. That PPK is a lovely little pistol.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 14, 2025 07:42 PM (Wnv9h)

79 So about 2 weeks ago I put a 100 bucks in a 10 spot pool for a friend.
He shoed up the next week with a brand new Glock 19 and said give me 200.
So I gave 200 plus the 100 and got a brand new in box Glock (600 to 700) for 300 bux.

Posted by: r hennigantx at September 14, 2025 07:42 PM (gbOdA)

80 Also, sites that use Cloudflare.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 14, 2025 07:12 PM (XeU6L)

Yeah, it did a Cloudflare "prove you're human" thing before letting me in... to the login page. Grrrrr.
Posted by: GWB

Had that on a few sites, "prove you're human" and nothing.
Ummm. Prove. How?...

Meh. I just close the window and never go back.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 14, 2025 07:42 PM (/lPRQ)

81 I had a pretty good cigar a week ago - a Churchill from the Bock Cigar Company out of Buffalo, WY. Grab one if you're ever in the neighborhood.

Posted by: 496 at September 14, 2025 07:42 PM (t+VLa)

82 (It's also going to reduce the "arsenal" I was going to bring, and I will have to buy some ammo along the way.)
Posted by: GWB

What ammo are you needing?

Posted by: rickb223 at September 14, 2025 07:43 PM (hx5BH)

83 One thing I used to do with my match guns is put zip ties through all the lock holes after the TSA inspection. That way I could tell immediately if it had been opened.
Posted by: Weasel at September 14, 2025 07:22 PM (kJuzF)

I will have to consider that. I also use non-TSA locks (extra-duty Master padlocks). That reminds me that I will need to buy more for trip to TX.

Posted by: GWB at September 14, 2025 07:43 PM (RTQn+)

84 Looks like Charlie Kirk's Killer was mentally screwed up by his Homo or Whatever Roommate Brainwashing him....

Looks like the young generation today have it too easy and develop into weak minded simpletons because of these Hippie Professors and Teachers.

We need a High T Alpha Male Generation too save this Country.....

Posted by: Jackson at September 14, 2025 07:43 PM (xl8DV)

85 One thing I used to do with my match guns is put zip ties through all the lock holes after the TSA inspection. That way I could tell immediately if it had been opened.
Posted by: Weasel at September 14, 2025 07:22 PM (kJuzF)

I will have to consider that. I also use non-TSA locks (extra-duty Master padlocks). That reminds me that I will need to buy more for trip to TX.
Posted by: GWB at September 14, 2025 07:43 PM

I've been doing that ever since someone suggested it. A good plan.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 14, 2025 07:45 PM (Wnv9h)

86 Which poly 9mm full size pistol in the$600 range should I get? Looked at CZ, Barreta, Springfield and a couple others. Prefer non sticker, like the double single concept.
Posted by: sTevo at September 14, 2025 07:24 PM

Not sure what "non sticker, like the double single concept" means. Beyond that, what do you want to use it for?

Assuming a General Purpose, I'd look at a Springfield Echelon pistols, the compact if you're thinking of carry.

Walthers probably have the best triggers, with H&Ks a very close second. H&K just came out with an improved VP9. $$ probably a bit over $600, haven't checked.

I'm a fan of Sig P365s, as well, which come in several sizes. They seem to have escaped the possible problems of the larger P320s.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 14, 2025 07:45 PM (0sNs1)

87 My favorite Cigar is and will always be an Arturo Fuente Hemingway....

Posted by: Jackson at September 14, 2025 07:45 PM (xl8DV)

88 Posted by: Jackson at September 14, 2025 07:45 PM (xl8DV)
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Howdy and welcome to the Gun Thread!

Posted by: Weasel at September 14, 2025 07:46 PM (kJuzF)

89 Good evening all and a great big thanks to Weasel for the GunThread (and the book thread). Left hand is better but I still can’t hold a rifle., so a bit limited.

Have a great week everyone!

Posted by: Coelacanth at September 14, 2025 07:46 PM (13bqY)

90 Amazing but long ago came *this* close to having some jet gunnery fun. Alas at the last moment the squadron CO appeared for a courtesy visit, noticed the flight plan, and nixed the gun fun (no-no with civilians).

Sad!!

Posted by: rhomboid at September 14, 2025 07:47 PM (vlJl4)

91 Sharon, are you brining any smaller framed pistols this year? One of our female club members was suggesting yesterday that the RMBS Mom try something a little smaller framed.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 14, 2025 07:34 PM (Wnv9h)

RMBS, I'm planning on bringing the following smaller framed handguns:
1) .32 ACP Beretta Model 81
2) .32 ACP Walther PPK/S SD (w/ suppressor)
3) .32 ACP Walther PPK

RMBS Mom has already shot the PPK/S SD w/ the suppressor. I think the other two have very mild recoil too.

Posted by: Ed L at September 14, 2025 07:47 PM (BCwQW)

92 favorite Cigar is and will always be an Arturo Fuente Hemingway....

There is iron in your words

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at September 14, 2025 07:48 PM (aBawG)

93 Posted by: Ed L at September 14, 2025 07:47 PM

Nice. Those will probably fit her hand nicely. I want to find something she's comfortable with.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 14, 2025 07:48 PM (Wnv9h)

94 Typo sticker = stricker.
Double single trigger, first pull is harder and chamber first round when empty. Second shot is single action w light pull.

Posted by: sTevo at September 14, 2025 07:48 PM (HNXEw)

95 THANK YOU, THANK YOU THANK YOU to each and every one of you that have contacted me and made plans to come to MoMe X.

I can't wait to greet old friends and welcome first-timers to share such a special time.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 14, 2025 07:49 PM (mFSH6)

96 Posted by: sTevo at September 14, 2025 07:48 PM (HNXEw)
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Howdy and welcome!

Posted by: Weasel at September 14, 2025 07:49 PM (kJuzF)

97 RMBS, I'm planning on bringing the following smaller framed handguns:
1) .32 ACP Beretta Model 81
2) .32 ACP Walther PPK/S SD (w/ suppressor)
3) .32 ACP Walther PPK

RMBS Mom has already shot the PPK/S SD w/ the suppressor. I think the other two have very mild recoil too.
Posted by: Ed L
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Ed L,
Aimsurplus has 25 rd boxes of 32 ACP S&B hardball for 6 bucks per box aka 12 bucks per 50. Check and see if the special is still going on. Just got back from out of town but checked my emails just now.

Posted by: whig at September 14, 2025 07:49 PM (WDjG6)

98 69 See y'all in TX next month.

Posted by: SPinRH_F-16 at September 14, 2025 07:35 PM
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Outstanding! See you there.

Posted by: TRex - bring the jet at September 14, 2025 07:50 PM (PDUpY)

99 What’s burnin tonight tovarishchi?
Posted by: rhomboid at September 14, 2025 07:26 PM (vlJl4)

Nothing here yet. Neighbor has promised to bring over a couple Cohibas. But I think his better half has other ideas.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 14, 2025 07:51 PM (2WIwB)

100 496, thanks for the cigar intel! Hope to sample local wares when I finally see a bit of the US.

And Jackson you can do worse than Fuente Hemingway as a go-to. Cameroon wrapper for the W.

And I think the commenter meant “striker” instead of “sticker”.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 14, 2025 07:51 PM (vlJl4)

101 Double single trigger, first pull is harder and chamber first round when empty. Second shot is single action w light pull.
Posted by: sTevo at September 14, 2025 07:48 PM

I think the phrase you're looking for is Double Action/Single Action, often abbreviated DA/SA.

This means you're looking for a hammer-fired pistol or revolver, not a striker-fired pistol.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 14, 2025 07:51 PM (0sNs1)

102 Weasel, thanks for the welcome.
I usually lurk on this thread.
After a guest visit to a bug match, I did poorly with a Walther ppks 9acp and I'm gonna need a bigger gub!

Posted by: sTevo at September 14, 2025 07:52 PM (HNXEw)

103 Striker-fired weapons have the same trigger pull whether it's the first shot or the last.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 14, 2025 07:53 PM (0sNs1)

104 Posted by: sTevo at September 14, 2025 07:52 PM (HNXEw)
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Happy you decided to participate. Thanks!

Posted by: Weasel at September 14, 2025 07:53 PM (kJuzF)

105 101, yes

Posted by: sTevo at September 14, 2025 07:53 PM (HNXEw)

106 My favorite Cigar is and will always be an Arturo Fuente Hemingway....
Posted by: Jackson at September 14, 2025 07:45 PM (xl8DV)

One of my standards. Always a good smoke!

Posted by: Diogenes at September 14, 2025 07:53 PM (2WIwB)

107 SPinRH, No worry about not being able to bring anything to shoot. The Horde is most generous about sharing.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 14, 2025 07:54 PM (mFSH6)

108 Just curious - how many here tonite will be attending their first TXMoMe?

Posted by: Weasel at September 14, 2025 07:55 PM (kJuzF)

109 I used to like Don Mateo. Turns out those were el cheapo.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 14, 2025 07:55 PM (rgMfe)

110 I can't wait to greet old friends and welcome first-timers to share such a special time.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 14, 2025 07:49 PM

Looking forward to seeing you, {{{Ben Had}}}!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 14, 2025 07:56 PM (Wnv9h)

111 RMBS, I will definitely bring my G48's oth iron sight and the one with the Holosun green dot. I think along with the 43x, they are the thinnest grip of any Glock. I also don't like a rough grip and both are really easy on my hands. Depending on how I get them to Texas, I can also bring the G44 which is almost identical to the G48 but in 22lr. Trying to limit luggage so if I can send them via car, I can bring all three. The Holosun green dot is really amazing and worth every penny.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 14, 2025 07:57 PM (t/2Uw)

112 42 Which poly 9mm full size pistol in the$600 range should I get? Looked at CZ, Barreta, Springfield and a couple others. Prefer non sticker, like the double single concept.
Posted by: sTevo
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Go to a range and try some out or at least to a local gunshop (often abbreviated LGS). You pay a bit more at an LGS but can get more personalized service if you are unfamiliar with firearms.

FWIW, for a defensive handgun, don't necessarily look for a light trigger--more important that you find one that fits your hand and where you can handle recoil of whatever cartridge you prefer.

Handguns are few of the things that actually keep a fair amount of value even used if you find that later the one you have does not 'fit' your hand or other requirements quite right down the road.

Most modern handguns from a modern mfg made in the US will do the job, be reliable defensive arms, and have manufacturers that stand behind their warranty with accessory parts.

Make sure to price in multiple magazines as well--magazines are consumable items and I would recommend at least 4-5 magazines. A want badly name firearm for $600 can turn into much higher when if it has high priced mags/accessories.

Posted by: whig at September 14, 2025 07:58 PM (WDjG6)

113 101, yes
Posted by: sTevo at September 14, 2025 07:53 PM

I'm not a big fan of DA/SA pistols. Two that I'd consider are the Sig P226 or 229, and the H&K P30, particularly the P30L. Both will likely be some over $600 new. Would you consider used?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 14, 2025 07:58 PM (0sNs1)

114 Walthers probably have the best triggers, with H&Ks a very close second. H&K just came out with an improved VP9. $$ probably a bit over $600, haven't checked.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 14, 2025 07:45 PM (0sNs1)

MSRP for the VP9A1 starts at $950. The CC9 (designed for CCW) has an MSRP of $699. The base Walther PDP (full and compact) starts at $699.

Posted by: Ed L at September 14, 2025 07:58 PM (BCwQW)

115 Posted by: whig at September 14, 2025 07:58 PM

There is wisdom in the words of whig.

As always.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 14, 2025 07:59 PM (0sNs1)

116 Just curious - how many here tonite will be attending their first TXMoMe?
Posted by: Weasel
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*Raises hand* first time for scampywife and scampyself

Posted by: scampydog at September 14, 2025 07:59 PM (mMWDg)

117 Posted by: whig at September 14, 2025 07:49 PM (WDjG6)

Thanks for the tip, whig.

Posted by: Ed L at September 14, 2025 07:59 PM (BCwQW)

118 Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 14, 2025 07:57 PM

Sounds good. I'm sure the mom will enjoy trying something smaller and different.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 14, 2025 08:00 PM (Wnv9h)

119 Posted by: scampydog at September 14, 2025 07:59 PM (mMWDg)
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Glad to hear it! You'll have a great time.

Posted by: Weasel at September 14, 2025 08:00 PM (kJuzF)

120 Just curious - how many here tonite will be attending their first TXMoMe?
Posted by: Weasel

Sheepishly raises hand.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 14, 2025 08:00 PM (hx5BH)

121 103 I never handled a stricker style pistol so I don't have a comfort level with one. Cleaning hammer style is easy. I'm open to trying my buddies Springfield hellcat one of these days.

Posted by: sTevo at September 14, 2025 08:00 PM (HNXEw)

122 101 Double single trigger, first pull is harder and chamber first round when empty. Second shot is single action w light pull.
Posted by: sTevo at September 14, 2025 07:48 PM

I think the phrase you're looking for is Double Action/Single Action, often abbreviated DA/SA.

This means you're looking for a hammer-fired pistol or revolver, not a striker-fired pistol.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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Duncan Anthrax is correct. DA/SA can work but you have to practice at it as the heavy trigger pull then light one for subsequent shots can throw you at first. However, hammer fired were the std. for a very long time and function well--and police used to use DA/SA due to perceived less negligent discharges which is more a training issue anyway.

One advantage that hammer fired do have is thumb on the hammer to prevent self cocking upon re-instertion into a holster (ditto for the revolver hammer). Striker fired come in partially cocked models (aka Glocks Safe Action) or fully cocked (Sig P320). Personally prefer partially cocked myself.

Posted by: whig at September 14, 2025 08:02 PM (WDjG6)

123 Posted by: rickb223 at September 14, 2025 08:00 PM (hx5BH)
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Excellent! Looking forward to seeing you.

Posted by: Weasel at September 14, 2025 08:02 PM (kJuzF)

124 I will not be able to make it to the MoMe. My son is getting married in early November and I can't swing two trips. Hopefully there will be more MoMes but no more weddings.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 14, 2025 08:03 PM (SnZH4)

125 For those that are attending for the first time the pistol range has an IDPA component as well as static targets.

Weasel also has the ability to coach people into hitting steel at the 1,000 yard mark. Talk about fun!

Posted by: Ben Had at September 14, 2025 08:03 PM (mFSH6)

126 Went to the range today for for my monthly women's shooting class, which I started attending in May. Shot about 100 rounds and was more pleased with my shot placement than last time. Learned more about how to take the gun apart to clean it. Covered situational awareness in public locations and state gun laws, also holster options for concealed carry. Really enjoying the class. Next month I think I am going to take my husband's gun instead of mine, just so that if I ever (G-d forbid) needed to use it in an emergency, I can feel more comfortable with it.

Posted by: Frankie at September 14, 2025 08:03 PM (mO+xO)

127 Boss Moss no shame in that. Some day soon I am sending Weasel a review of 5 cheap (bundle) cigars. They can be quite nice.

And would go well with the inexpensive good rum some of us suggested to you last night on the ONT (Doorly’s XO comes to mind).

Posted by: rhomboid at September 14, 2025 08:03 PM (vlJl4)

128 Thanks for the tip, whig.
Posted by: Ed L

They had some other ammo but I knew you and AH Lloyd had 32 ACP pistols. S&B also tends to run slightly hotter than US makes and it tends to make Euro designs work a bit better. I know I had some issues years ago with a Walter PPK that did not like domestic 380 ACP at the time but did fine with S&B and other euro makes like Fiocchi.

Posted by: whig at September 14, 2025 08:05 PM (WDjG6)

129 Posted by: Oddbob at September 14, 2025 08:03 PM (SnZH4)
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Bummer.

Posted by: Weasel at September 14, 2025 08:05 PM (kJuzF)

130 Here's another video about the 1911 .45:
https://tinyurl.com/yd2z3fzv

I expect to yell a lot at this video.

Posted by: GWB at September 14, 2025 08:06 PM (RTQn+)

131 GWB, drinks and appetizers are on the docket for Thursday evening at the ranch.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 14, 2025 08:07 PM (mFSH6)

132 Posted by: sTevo at September 14, 2025 07:53 PM (HNXEw)

Stevo, may I suggest the Walther P99 AS (Anti-Stress)? It's striker fired, but unlike any other striker fired pistol, it has a "single/double action" mechanism. Rack the slide and it's a lighter "single action" trigger. Press the decocker on the top of the slide, and that gives you a heavier (but still workable) "double action" trigger. Unfortunately, Walther has ended production of the P99, so unless you can find one of the increasingly rare "Final Edition" models, you'll have to find a used one. As a P99 AS owner myself, I can vouch for the quality of the P99 AS trigger. Somewhere in the archived threads from 2023, you'll find my write up about the P99.

Posted by: Ed L at September 14, 2025 08:07 PM (BCwQW)

133 sTevo listen to whig (as usual), especially about test-driving some pistols at a local store/range. And don’t exclude revolvers unless you already have ruled those out.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 14, 2025 08:07 PM (vlJl4)

134 Myself, being half cocked most of the time, you'd think I'd want one that's half cocked!

Posted by: sTevo at September 14, 2025 08:07 PM (HNXEw)

135 Walthers probably have the best triggers, with H&Ks a very close second. H&K just came out with an improved VP9. $$ probably a bit over $600, haven't checked.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 14, 2025 07:45 PM (0sNs1)

MSRP for the VP9A1 starts at $950. The CC9 (designed for CCW) has an MSRP of $699. The base Walther PDP (full and compact) starts at $699.
Posted by: Ed L
++

Canik if you don't mind the Turks.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 14, 2025 08:08 PM (/lPRQ)

136 Oddbob, Congratulations to the happy couple but their timing sucks. I so enjoy getting to spend time with you.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 14, 2025 08:09 PM (mFSH6)

137 133, my dad passed and left me two 22lr/mag ruger double actions and a 44mag ruger former sheriff's revolver. That's a hand cannon.

Posted by: sTevo at September 14, 2025 08:11 PM (HNXEw)

138 They had some other ammo but I knew you and AH Lloyd had 32 ACP pistols. S&B also tends to run slightly hotter than US makes and it tends to make Euro designs work a bit better. I know I had some issues years ago with a Walter PPK that did not like domestic 380 ACP at the time but did fine with S&B and other euro makes like Fiocchi.
Posted by: whig at September 14, 2025 08:05 PM (WDjG6)

I tried some Magtech 71 grain FMJ's in my PPK/S SD and kept on having jams in almost every magazine for a couple hundred rounds before switching to 73 grain Fioochi FMJ. No problems after the switch. Not sure if it was breaking in a new pistol or the problem you describe.

Posted by: Ed L at September 14, 2025 08:11 PM (BCwQW)

139 Just curious - how many here tonite will be attending their first TXMoMe?
Posted by: Weasel at September 14, 2025 07:55 PM

Does first time in the Horse Trailer count?

* if so, raises hand *

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 14, 2025 08:11 PM (0sNs1)

140 I love my revolver. It goes everywhere with me.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 14, 2025 08:11 PM (mFSH6)

141 121 103 I never handled a stricker style pistol so I don't have a comfort level with one. Cleaning hammer style is easy. I'm open to trying my buddies Springfield hellcat one of these days.
Posted by: sTevo
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Consider some of S&W's makes then. I think their current CS line is hammer fired (Revived Chief Special). Another is try to find an police 5906. Stainless steel, heavy as heck close to 40 oz, very minimal recoil in even +p and works fine with 115 gr. range ammo. 15-17 round mags available.

Bunch of spare parts, cheap MecGar quality mags for them, and probably one of the finest DA/SA for police grade service ever made. Only drawback is you have to go to the TSW line (a bit pricer) for a rail underneath for light mounts and night sight selection other than Trijicon is zero.

Even used, this pistols last about like Glocks with minimal care if you select the full stainless steel police models.

Also hammer fired DA/SA PX4 Storm from Beretta, tough as nails, minimal recoil due to a rotary barrel locking design, and 15-17 round mags available. I think Beretta may even have a rebate on pistols going on now. I have the Compact and it simply works--no fuss.

Posted by: whig at September 14, 2025 08:12 PM (WDjG6)

142 Thanks Rhomboid. Got pulled away by my Bride's awesome pasta. I've got a friend who swears by it ... H came by the other day and was using it. Pulled out a stem and leaf! I was surprise.

I love your temp probe hack. Perfect. I've used old brass rods I have lying around.

Posted by: YellowBird at September 14, 2025 08:12 PM (MEbkQ)

143 Leaving early. Long day for me but elated to be back on track.
Every day a little better.
Can't wait for Texas
🤠💃

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 14, 2025 08:15 PM (t/2Uw)

144 FWIW - I shot a couple of cases of S&B 9mm over the last two years. Maybe some .45 cal as well when I'm feeling rich. Winchester, MagTech, Remington ... all okay. Occasional issues. Ran into some MagTech a little over a year ago that was pretty flakey. Since then, OK. But the S&B has been pretty much flawless.

Posted by: YellowBird at September 14, 2025 08:16 PM (MEbkQ)

145 I tried some Magtech 71 grain FMJ's in my PPK/S SD and kept on having jams in almost every magazine for a couple hundred rounds before switching to 73 grain Fioochi FMJ. No problems after the switch. Not sure if it was breaking in a new pistol or the problem you describe.
Posted by: Ed L

Sometimes, with small pistol cartridges, you get weird pressure curves from some ammo that generate uneven recoil impulse affecting extraction and feeding. Depends on powders loaded--e.g. very fast versus medium fast.

FWIW, very fast powders like Bullseye are cheap but some auto pistols don't like them due to the pressure curve. Medium burning powders, like WW231 or others often can do a bit better but may take more grains (aka cost more for the ammo mfg.).

One advantage to revolvers is that pretty much all go bang but semi autos can be picky about ammo.

Posted by: whig at September 14, 2025 08:17 PM (WDjG6)

146 Last week I was in Buda Texas and on Wed evenings they have a concert series on the back patio. Had a couple 3 IPAs and two Hoyo de Nicaragua stories. They are tasty and not for the faint of heart!

Posted by: sTevo at September 14, 2025 08:18 PM (HNXEw)

147 Good evening gub threaders and all the ships at sea!

Posted by: blaster at September 14, 2025 08:19 PM (RoO7G)

148 But the S&B has been pretty much flawless.
Posted by: YellowBird
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Not fond of S&B for 9mm but that is more because I reload and I used to have more trouble with tight primer pockets on them. They were almost like crimped primer pockets. I started swaging 9mm primer pockets before reloading it and the problem went away.

Posted by: whig at September 14, 2025 08:20 PM (WDjG6)

149 Joya DE Nicaragua
Antano original and CT

Posted by: sTevo at September 14, 2025 08:20 PM (HNXEw)

150 I don't shoot much .45, but I thought I'd point something out.
When it looked like Obummer was gonna get elected, I rushed out and bought a 500 round box of .45 ball. Cost me $.032/round.
Just checked Lucky Gunner, and I can buy ball .45ACP for....$.032/round.

Posted by: MkY at September 14, 2025 08:21 PM (cPGH3)

151 What inflation?
Heh
But my ribeye is double!

Posted by: MkY at September 14, 2025 08:22 PM (cPGH3)

152 Get thee to the TXMOME. I didn't know anyone at my first one 2 years ago and now I wouldn't miss it!

Posted by: JSpicy at September 14, 2025 08:22 PM (SUPpD)

153 DMV MGC went to the range today. swa was there with bionic hip and had not lost a step.

sra blaster and I brought our P320s that only fired when we pulled the trigger.

Interestingly they are proving to be among our best shooters and most reliable.

Posted by: blaster at September 14, 2025 08:22 PM (RoO7G)

154 whig, same here - I segregated the S&B 9mm brass at first, finally swaged them a bit and it was OK. But generally avoid adding S&B brass to my stock.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 14, 2025 08:23 PM (vlJl4)

155 sra blaster really wants to make the 1000 go clang this year. Pretty sure the rifle is capable.

Posted by: blaster at September 14, 2025 08:24 PM (RoO7G)

156 Ammo re-loading question from a never-reloaded guy.

If I buy a Lee die set will it install properly in a Hornady, Dillon, RCBS press? Will a Hornady set also fit in most/all presses and so on? I'm considering buying a .41AE die set while available, but don't want to be locked-in (excuse the pun) to the same brand of press. I don't own one and would like to have choices when I buy.

Thanks for edumacting a dummy.

Posted by: Gref at September 14, 2025 08:24 PM (5rh/l)

157 Whig, I just ordered a dozen boxes of that .32 ACP S&B ammo from AIM Surplus. Thanks again for the tip!

Posted by: Ed L at September 14, 2025 08:25 PM (BCwQW)

158 Joya de Nicaragua CT one of my favorites. Antano Reserve for me, the 1970’s a bit powerful for my preferences.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 14, 2025 08:25 PM (vlJl4)

159 I'm going to have to hit up the Dallas Arms Collectors Gun Show at the Hella Event Center in Garland October 4th or 5th. I get all of my reloaded ammo from a company called Dallas Reloading Service. They are retired Dallas PD officers. Their old business cards say, "We specialize in orders of 100,000 rounds or more". (They have/had the DPD training ammo contract)

Never had an issue with their reloads.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 14, 2025 08:25 PM (hx5BH)

160 134 Myself, being half cocked most of the time, you'd think I'd want one that's half cocked!
Posted by: sTevo
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Don't want to touch too much on full versus semi cocked but fully cocked probably has a bit better trigger feel but your components have to be in top shape. You are relying on the safety (if any) and sear mechanism to prevent the striker from hitting the primer.

The Glock and similar S&W M&P line for example, have trigger safeties in addition to (thumb safety on the S&W can be had too), to block the partially cocked striker. Springfield's older XD models use a grip safety to do that as well.

Posted by: whig at September 14, 2025 08:25 PM (WDjG6)

161 157 Whig, I just ordered a dozen boxes of that .32 ACP S&B ammo from AIM Surplus. Thanks again for the tip!
Posted by: Ed L
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32 ACP always seems to go out of stock first in a gun rush then is really slow and expensive at first to get back into stock. Glad I could help.

Posted by: whig at September 14, 2025 08:26 PM (WDjG6)

162 rickb223, can't wait to be able to give you a hug.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 14, 2025 08:27 PM (mFSH6)

163 Gref I think the die sets work in all the presses but others here will know for sure.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 14, 2025 08:27 PM (vlJl4)

164 Never had an issue with their reloads.
Posted by: rickb223
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If you are buying in lots of 100k, wow. That is professional competition shooting level.

Posted by: whig at September 14, 2025 08:27 PM (WDjG6)

165 sra blaster also wants to see how far she can shoot our .357 lever gun. I don't have much expectation over 100 yards.

Posted by: blaster at September 14, 2025 08:28 PM (RoO7G)

166 rickb223, can't wait to be able to give you a hug.
Posted by: Ben Had

Same here!
Can't wait to meet a lot of gray box friends.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 14, 2025 08:28 PM (hx5BH)

167 If you are buying in lots of 100k, wow. That is professional competition shooting level.
Posted by: whig

They were getting local police departments training ammo contracts.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 14, 2025 08:29 PM (hx5BH)

168 Just curious - how many here tonite will be attending their first TXMoMe?
Posted by: Weasel

Raises hand shame-facedly. And I will be accompanied by a lady friend who has never picked up a gun in her life but is eager to try it. Perhaps Sharon or Nurse can take her under their wings?

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at September 14, 2025 08:29 PM (oTaIL)

169 The Springfield at sportsmans come w 3 high cap mags and other gear. It's looks like a no brainer. I suppose w training, I might come around.

Posted by: sTevo at September 14, 2025 08:30 PM (HNXEw)

170 RANGE REPORT!!!

I finally got my Faxon Ion Ultralight in 5.56 to the range and zeroed my 3x SLX MicroPrism with ACCS Raptor reticle at 50m and my offset Holosun 407 at 25m. Everything was fine, and I'm thrilled.

I ALSO took the Tika T3x CTR, 24" barrel in 6.5 CM to confirm my zero.

I fired five rounds from the bench with the Schmedium bag as my rear rest. They were all covered by a quarter at 100m. I almost called it a day, but that goodness I didn't.

I fired five more, just to have a clean edge in my bullet bible folding round holder. Those five rounds went all over the place. No rhyme or reason. I was super frustrated and decided to stop shooting as I obviously had Wobbly Shit.

Came home, checked torques. Both mount crossbolts spun under 50 inch pounds (and should be torqued to 68 inch pounds. Turns out, the mount crossbolts on the Nightforce Ultralite Unimount (20moa) were both full of thread material peeled off of the nuts.

New mount ordered, received, installed, leveled, and ready to check again on Wednesday.

I'll be testing my primary round - Hornady Precision Hunter ELDX 143gr, and also something new to me: Subsonic rounds from Chalk 1 Munitions.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at September 14, 2025 08:30 PM (oSeBJ)

171 sra blaster also wants to see how far she can shoot our .357 lever gun. I don't have much expectation over 100 yards.
Posted by: blaster

Mortar-like aiming?
Like .22 shorts at 40 yds?

Posted by: MkY at September 14, 2025 08:30 PM (cPGH3)

172 Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at September 14, 2025 08:29 PM (oTaIL)
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We have plenty of people who can help your lady friend!

Posted by: Weasel at September 14, 2025 08:30 PM (oLdT5)

173 154 whig, same here - I segregated the S&B 9mm brass at first, finally swaged them a bit and it was OK. But generally avoid adding S&B brass to my stock.
Posted by: rhomboid
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I seem to remember that the S&B had sealed primers too. Mebbe overrun from a military contracts were diverted to commercial sales. As I hand primed for the longest, I was always worried about touching off a primer in an S&B 9 cartridge while priming so before I swaged them, I used a hand reamer to get the pockets easier to prime first.

Went to the Lee App press and the pocket swagers work like a charm on them. Have some others to use on a regular reloading press but more of a pain to sue than the Lee one for that task. Both are easier than reaming the primer pockets.

Posted by: whig at September 14, 2025 08:31 PM (WDjG6)

174 Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at September 14, 2025 08:29 PM (oTaIL)
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We have plenty of people who can help your lady friend!
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With one-on-one instruction, I meant to add. No problemo.

Posted by: Weasel at September 14, 2025 08:32 PM (oLdT5)

175 TXMoMe veterans: please jump into the comments to encourage the scairdy-cats to join in the fun! What was your first MoMe like? What were you expecting? Were you surprised? Did you have a great time?

Drove down from Ohio to Corsicana for a couple of days, and arrived when Ben Had, Rancher Bob, and Cow Horse Queen were serving hors d'oeuvres before the main body of humanity arrived the next day.

I immediately asked for the barrel into which newbies were expected to report, only to be told graciously that they had waived that requirement for that year. Also, the barrel was in the shop for maintenance.

I proceeded to meet some of the loveliest and most level-headed people I had ever encountered. Many are friends to this day and I look forward to reconnecting with them next month in Corsicana!

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at September 14, 2025 08:32 PM (v23vE)

176 I'll be testing my primary round - Hornady Precision Hunter ELDX 143gr, and also something new to me: Subsonic rounds from Chalk 1 Munitions.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider

You have nice 'toys'. I tend to be old style on scope mounts--I prefer all steel despite the weight. And I hate chinesium made screws of all types.

Posted by: whig at September 14, 2025 08:33 PM (WDjG6)

177 That SOB, you lady friend could not be in better hands. There is a special target set up for first time shooters so they can take all the time they need. Steck is an amazing coach for first time shooters.. She give them confidence and accuracy.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 14, 2025 08:33 PM (mFSH6)

178 168 Just curious - how many here tonite will be attending their first TXMoMe?
Posted by: Weasel

Raises hand shame-facedly. And I will be accompanied by a lady friend who has never picked up a gun in her life but is eager to try it. Perhaps Sharon or Nurse can take her under their wings?
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at September 14, 2025 08:29 PM (oTaIL)

Van Owen, my own spousal unit will also be a first-time attendee this year. They may be able to bond while I'm out performing my RSO duties, though I'm sure your lady friend will have no end of eager helpers.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at September 14, 2025 08:35 PM (v23vE)

179 OK, who's the cigar-smoking Sigma Chi?

Posted by: Captain Ned at September 14, 2025 08:35 PM (nADdg)

180 You have nice 'toys'. I tend to be old style on scope mounts--I prefer all steel despite the weight. And I hate chinesium made screws of all types.

Posted by: whig at September 14, 2025 08:33 PM (WDjG6)

I'm in the 'buy once, cry once' camp on stuff like this.

And Nightforce is a company Weasel swears by, so I'm assuming I've done something wrong.

The next step is to get my torque wrench in for calibration if I can't fix the gripe.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at September 14, 2025 08:35 PM (oSeBJ)

181 Thanks for y'alls moral support in my quest for a 9mm gub. I'll keep you posted. Gonna step out.

Posted by: sTevo at September 14, 2025 08:36 PM (HNXEw)

182 That 1911 video I linked...
Not nearly as much yelling at the video as I thought.

I love the bit where he basically says an external safety is (my words) the equivalent of driving a stick shift. If someone takes it away from you, many are unlikely to be able to operate the thing because they don't know what an external safety is.

I don't know WTH he is talking about with the grip safety or (especially) the reliability. I've never had trouble with either.

Posted by: GWB at September 14, 2025 08:37 PM (RTQn+)

183 Range report from yesterday.

The RMBS Mom is improving rapidly. Overcoming the low left issue, and working hard on the fundamentals. She'll be ready for TXMoMeX.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 14, 2025 08:38 PM (Wnv9h)

184 I flew down to DFW two Octobers ago with a checked bag and declared firearm, and had no trouble on either end of the trip. In fact, it was the most attentive baggage service I've ever received.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at September 14, 2025 08:39 PM (v23vE)

185 I too lost my Precious, my Colt MK/IV Series 70 1911, when it sank with the Queen Mary II. Twas a beautiful thing.

Posted by: Javems at September 14, 2025 08:39 PM (8I4hW)

186 I will tell you how wonderful the Horde is. I never had the slightest concern about inviting you all to my home. When we outgrew my place RancherBob and Cow Horse Queen opened their home and we have enjoyed every minute.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 14, 2025 08:39 PM (mFSH6)

187 Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 14, 2025 08:38 PM (Wnv9h)
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You mean she's getting better than last year?

Word of caution - if RMBS Mom starts wagering on shots, keep your wallets closed!

Posted by: Weasel at September 14, 2025 08:40 PM (oLdT5)

188 They were getting local police departments training ammo contracts.
Posted by: rickb223
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Ah.

Posted by: whig at September 14, 2025 08:40 PM (WDjG6)

189 Thanks all, for your offers of assistance. I would undertake to instruct her myself, but for sanity's sake I think it would be better if someone else gave her initial instruction. If it works out, I may be gaining a shooting partner for life.

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at September 14, 2025 08:42 PM (oTaIL)

190 ...and a 44mag ruger former sheriff's revolver. That's a hand cannon.

I see a lot of barely used .44 mags on the used gun shelves at Cabela's. I imagine that a lot of people buy them thinking it will be a cool toy and then find out that actually shooting it is not nearly as much fun as they imagined.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 14, 2025 08:43 PM (3nLb4)

191 What was your first MoMe like? What were you expecting? Were you surprised? Did you have a great time?

Your first time is always special - or at least it should be.

Mine was in the olden times when the MoMe got crashed by some lefty douches. There was a pool table. Cochran had a corduroy blazer with shoulder patches, and Gabe was there...

I'm devastated that I won't be able to attend the 10th Annual TxMoMe. I've not been to one, and it's on my bucket list. I'm sincerely upset, particularly with everything going on. I feel like I need the camaraderie the Horde provides...

Plus, in the 'I'd like to show off' category, I took a long-range rifle course that got me out past a mile. Imagine what Weasel could teach me with that kind of baseline!!

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at September 14, 2025 08:44 PM (oSeBJ)

192 The next step is to get my torque wrench in for calibration if I can't fix the gripe.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider
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Several options nowadays. I've used the Wheeler fat wrench and there are some competitors now to that. Plus for other gunsmithing/general mechanics reasons, have variety of torque wrenches of various sizes. But I have seen far too many shitty screws--too hard, too soft, poor threading, etc. Those folks in the age making screws when Peter Mauser, etc. or early military arms were made almost never have issues (other than rust fastness) on their screws.

Posted by: whig at September 14, 2025 08:44 PM (WDjG6)

193 Whew! I was a way for a bit there.

So to answer my earlier question, the Tokarev averaged 1420 fps and the C96 was 1032.8. Clearly the longer barrel helped, but is a difference without a difference? I think so.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at September 14, 2025 08:44 PM (ZOv7s)

194 Received a Remington Rand (April, 1945 production), .45 Colt pistol from the CMP (Civilian Marksmanship Program), a year or so ago. It's a wonderful weapon, a pleasure to shoot and a very real, historic firearm. The CMP has a bunch of such pistols available for those interested. Check out their website for pricing if you are interested.
Posted by: 625Boatrider at September 14, 2025 07:37 PM (nN+lv)
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I have a CMP Garand, ordered an M1917 last month, and plan on getting a 1911.

Sad they will all end up in the deep.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at September 14, 2025 08:46 PM (ZOv7s)

195 Not fond of S&B for 9mm but that is more because I reload and I used to have more trouble with tight primer pockets on them. They were almost like crimped primer pockets.

When I'm doing a batch of mixed .45 brass and one takes a bit more force to deprime or prime, I check and it's almost always an S&B.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 14, 2025 08:46 PM (3nLb4)

196 What ammo are you needing?
Posted by: rickb223 at September 14, 2025 07:43 PM (hx5BH)

I figure everyone will need 9mm (I was originally going to bring a bit of that to share).
The main one I worry about picking up is M1 .30-06. I can bring some of that in luggage*, along with .50 Beowulf.
Otherwise, .45 ACP and .38 and .32 ACP.

(I'll order more before I go. The baggage limit is 500 rounds?)

Posted by: GWB at September 14, 2025 08:46 PM (RTQn+)

197 Tests came back for wife's Father. The cancer has moved to the lungs and liver. He's choosing to stop fighting it. Tonight he's telling his wife, she's like you guys - hasn't left his bedside sincr EMS brought him in

Please pray for them. Don't reply here, I dont want to disrupt the thread and I'm ok, went through this with my own father. But this will be their first loss, please ask the Lord to give them strengh

Posted by: Fenrisulven at September 14, 2025 08:47 PM (ciYHQ)

198 I see a lot of barely used .44 mags on the used gun shelves at Cabela's. I imagine that a lot of people buy them thinking it will be a cool toy and then find out that actually shooting it is not nearly as much fun as they imagined.
Posted by: Oddbob at September 14, 2025 08:43 PM (3nLb4)
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How many are Model 29s?

"It's Dirty Harry's gun!"

"Ow!"

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at September 14, 2025 08:47 PM (ZOv7s)

199 If I buy a Lee die set will it install properly in a Hornady, Dillon, RCBS press? Will a Hornady set also fit in most/all presses and so on? I'm considering buying a .41AE die set while available, but don't want to be locked-in (excuse the pun) to the same brand of press. I don't own one and would like to have choices when I buy.

Thanks for edumacting a dummy.
Posted by: Gref at September 14, 2025 08:24 PM (5rh/l)

Yes, Lee, RCBS, etc. all use the same thread size, so they are interchangeable among common presses. I say common, because there are a few antiques and specialized presses (such as the Lyman nutcracker hand press and Dillon Square Deal progressive) that use odd sizes.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at September 14, 2025 08:47 PM (acXKL)

200 (I'll order more before I go. The baggage limit is 500 rounds?)
Posted by: GWB at September 14, 2025 08:46 PM (RTQn+)
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Baggage limit is 11 pounds.

Posted by: Weasel at September 14, 2025 08:47 PM (oLdT5)

201 190 ...and a 44mag ruger former sheriff's revolver. That's a hand cannon.

I see a lot of barely used .44 mags on the used gun shelves at Cabela's. I imagine that a lot of people buy them thinking it will be a cool toy and then find out that actually shooting it is not nearly as much fun as they imagined.
Posted by: Oddbob

I've shot them but don't have one by choice. If I had to get a magnum, I would really prefer the 41 and nearly 'pulled the trigger on a S&W used one. Sold before I went back to buy it.

Nowadays, I probably would go with a 10mm Semi Auto to be honest if I had to go into bear country without a longarm.

Posted by: whig at September 14, 2025 08:48 PM (WDjG6)

202 If I buy a Lee die set will it install properly in a Hornady, Dillon, RCBS press?

IIRC, the Dillon Square Deal press requires proprietary dies. Everything else is interchangeable AFAIK.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 14, 2025 08:48 PM (3nLb4)

203 Sharon, are you brining any smaller framed pistols this year?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 14, 2025 07:34 PM (Wnv9h)

Not Sharon, but I plan on bringing my brand new .32 30X Tomcat - it of the tip-up barrel.

Posted by: GWB at September 14, 2025 08:49 PM (RTQn+)

204 Weasel, Well done on the X graphic.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 14, 2025 08:49 PM (mFSH6)

205 I see a lot of barely used .44 mags on the used gun shelves at Cabela's. I imagine that a lot of people buy them thinking it will be a cool toy and then find out that actually shooting it is not nearly as much fun as they imagined.
Posted by: Oddbob at September 14, 2025 08:43 PM (3nLb4)

I picked up by Colt Kodiak (.44 Magnum, 4.25" barrel) at my LGS for $1325 out the door price. It still had the QR code tag on the trigger guard. MSRP on that is $1799. Magnums are still a handful, but .44 Specials are easy to control. Blaster and Hrothgar can testify to that from their test drives today.

Posted by: Ed L at September 14, 2025 08:50 PM (BCwQW)

206 Posted by: Ben Had at September 14, 2025 08:49 PM (mFSH6)
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Thanks!

If you have a minute can we touch base this week in the schedule. Call at your convenience. Thanks!

Posted by: Weasel at September 14, 2025 08:51 PM (oLdT5)

207 I want to remind people that the MoMe is kinda like the blog in real life. We go from the Morning report all the way to the ONT.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 14, 2025 08:52 PM (mFSH6)

208 Nowadays, I probably would go with a 10mm Semi Auto to be honest if I had to go into bear country without a longarm.
Posted by: whig at September 14, 2025 08:48 PM (WDjG6)
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The Taurus Tracker in .44 Mag is not bad. The "ribber" grips help a lot, and ported barrel also seems to help. Compared to a Model 29, it was much easier, which was surprising because you'd think long barrel > 4" barrel.

The hardest part is finding a decent holster.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at September 14, 2025 08:52 PM (ZOv7s)

209 I would undertake to instruct her myself, but for sanity's sake I think it would be better if someone else gave her initial instruction.

I have found this to be the case with my wife for just about everything.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 14, 2025 08:52 PM (3nLb4)

210 Evening, Gun Thread folks! No gun stuff to report, but I got some substantial car messing with done.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 14, 2025 08:53 PM (kaqWV)

211 Otherwise, .45 ACP and .38 and .32 ACP.

(I'll order more before I go. The baggage limit is 500 rounds?)
Posted by: GWB

I need to go out to the garage and see what all I have and the amounts.
I know I have .22lr, .38 & .357, .45acp .& 223

Will there be a requirement for .223 ammo?

Posted by: rickb223 at September 14, 2025 08:53 PM (hx5BH)

212 Weasel, will do. Again, It can never be said enough how much you give to the MoMe and how much I appreciate and love you.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 14, 2025 08:54 PM (mFSH6)

213 199 If I buy a Lee die set will it install properly in a Hornady, Dillon, RCBS press? Will a Hornady set also fit in most/all presses and so on? I'm considering buying a .41AE die set while available, but don't want to be locked-in (excuse the pun) to the same brand of press. I don't own one and would like to have choices when I buy.

Thanks for edumacting a dummy.
Posted by: Gref
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As Spudboy said. There are some really old collector reloading tools/dies with non std. threading out there but not I think for something like the 41 AE.

Posted by: whig at September 14, 2025 08:54 PM (WDjG6)

214 How many are Model 29s?

About 2/3. The rest are Super Blackhawks.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 14, 2025 08:54 PM (3nLb4)

215 I love the X graphic. That would be great on a t-shirt.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 14, 2025 07:03 PM (Wnv9h)

Isn't that a logo off some old Remington Super X ammo box?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 14, 2025 08:54 PM (kaqWV)

216 Posted by: Ben Had at September 14, 2025 08:54 PM (mFSH6)
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I hope you know how mutual the feeling is!

Posted by: Weasel at September 14, 2025 08:55 PM (YnIVK)

217 Check and see if the special is still going on.
Posted by: whig at September 14, 2025 07:49 PM (WDjG6)

I'm ordering some boxes now. Thanks for the heads-up, as I missed that one in my email.

Posted by: GWB at September 14, 2025 08:56 PM (RTQn+)

218 Isn't that a logo off some old Remington Super X ammo box?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 14, 2025 08:54 PM (kaqWV)
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You mean Remington has ripped off my design?!

Posted by: Weasel at September 14, 2025 08:57 PM (YnIVK)

219 I will let the cat out of the bag, so to speak, here. Eromero has provided T-shirts for everyone in attendance this year.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 14, 2025 08:57 PM (mFSH6)

220 Striker-fired weapons have the same trigger pull whether it's the first shot or the last.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 14, 2025 07:53 PM (0sNs1)

So do single action only.

Posted by: GWB at September 14, 2025 08:57 PM (RTQn+)

221 If I had to get a magnum, I would really prefer the 41 and nearly 'pulled the trigger on a S&W used one. Sold before I went back to buy it.

Nowadays, I probably would go with a 10mm Semi Auto to be honest if I had to go into bear country without a longarm.
Posted by: whig at September 14, 2025 08:48 PM

.41 Mag is extremely popular in Alaska. I really wish S&W had put faster barrels on the 657s, to be able to shoot heavy-for-caliber bullets for hunting.

A Glock G20 is one of the few Glocks I have respect (and a use) for, for the reason you elucidated.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 14, 2025 08:58 PM (0sNs1)

222 The Taurus Tracker in .44 Mag is not bad. The "ribber" grips help a lot, and ported barrel also seems to help. Compared to a Model 29, it was much easier, which was surprising because you'd think long barrel > 4" barrel.

The hardest part is finding a decent holster.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd

I've fired the Taurus and passed on a chance to acquire it. Don't care for ported barrels though. And a Model 29.

If I had to buy one, I would probably go with a Redhawk honestly. Typical Bill Ruger overbuilding but heavy is good in this case. The Redhawk is basically the Security Six scaled up and I think the same designer, Harry Sefried was involved.

The Super Redhawk is derived, IIRC, from the newer GP 100 design.

Posted by: whig at September 14, 2025 08:58 PM (WDjG6)

223 I love the X graphic. That would be great on a t-shirt.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 14, 2025 07:03 PM (Wnv9h)
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I thought about that but wasn't sure about having a big X on my back on the range!

Posted by: Weasel at September 14, 2025 08:58 PM (YnIVK)

224 (I'll order more before I go. The baggage limit is 500 rounds?)
Posted by: GWB at September 14, 2025 08:46 PM (RTQn+)
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Baggage limit is 11 pounds.
Posted by: Weasel

Heh.
So much for flying in 500 rounds of the 12.7x42mm*.

That's .50 Beowolf for those that fo respect copywrite... or whatever it's called with cartridges.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 14, 2025 08:59 PM (/lPRQ)

225 About 2/3. The rest are Super Blackhawks.
Posted by: Oddbob at September 14, 2025 08:54 PM (3nLb4)
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Years ago I had a Ruger Bisley in .44 Mag and it was pretty damn cool. The biggest problem with it was the loading gate, which meant that range time dragged on and on.

I decided I wanted something else - a Desert Eagle! (I was young and foolish, for give me.) I was broke, but a well-time deployment to Germany in an off-base hotel radically changed that. As soon as I got back, I put it on consignment at a local shop and made a down payment on a used Desert Eagle. Such joy!

A month later, the Bisley had sold, covering half the Desert Eagle, but the family had blown through the rest of the cash. I asked if I could transfer the money to something else, and this was acceptable, so I bought a Cold War SIG P226 (made in W. Germany) instead.

A much better choice. Later it fell into a crevasse whilst dogsledding through Okemos, but it was nice while it lasted.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at September 14, 2025 08:59 PM (ZOv7s)

226 What was your first MoMe like? What were you expecting? Were you surprised? Did you have a great time?

I attended two of Westminsterdogshow's CO Morondezvouses. Second one I met Joe Mannix and YD. they are as funny as you might imagine.

Only been to one TXMOME, the 2022 one. First guy I met there was Berserker.

I can't be there this year, but wife and I are already planning for the next PNW meetup. The Horde is a magical group of folks. I say this as a lifelong introvert. If you get a chance, do it.

Posted by: Mikey Alpha Kilo, Nerd? Yes, we much at September 14, 2025 09:00 PM (0aYVJ)

227 Weasel, it's time for me to sign off for tonight. Thanks for hosting this thread. Ben Had, I'm planning on coming to the MoMe, even though I forgot to send you an e-mail about that.

Posted by: Ed L at September 14, 2025 09:01 PM (BCwQW)

228 Trying to limit luggage so if I can send them via car, I can bring all three.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 14, 2025 07:57 PM (t/2Uw)

What would you be housing them in, Sharon? With a little effort (cutting foam) I should be able to get 3 fairly easily into a Pelican Vault. Four if I put the ammo in the rifle case.

Posted by: GWB at September 14, 2025 09:01 PM (RTQn+)

229 .41 Mag is extremely popular in Alaska. I really wish S&W had put faster barrels on the 657s, to be able to shoot heavy-for-caliber bullets for hunting.

A Glock G20 is one of the few Glocks I have respect (and a use) for, for the reason you elucidated.
Posted by: Duncanthrax

That year, I think it was 2006 or so, I had a chance to buy the the Smith 41 Magnum but didn't do it in time and then saw a new Marlin made 41 Magnum 1894 model for about 600 or so at the time shortly thereafter. Regrettably passed on that as well.

Regret for what you pass on buying is common in gunworld. The old song Right Place, Wrong Time.

Posted by: whig at September 14, 2025 09:01 PM (WDjG6)

230 I still want a Desert Eagle, but only as an absurd show of affluence. Like when the kids have all moved out and the mortgage is paid off. Until then, other items have priority.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at September 14, 2025 09:02 PM (ZOv7s)

231 Posted by: Ed L at September 14, 2025 09:01 PM (BCwQW)
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Adios Ed L. I'll be in touch soon about the cleaning class and range stuff. Thanks again!

Posted by: Weasel at September 14, 2025 09:02 PM (YnIVK)

232 Shoots real nice, but not as good as a SIG P226.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at September 14, 2025 07:30 PM (ZOv7s)

But then, what does? : )

Posted by: Cow Demon at September 14, 2025 09:02 PM (xDJJe)

233 Ed L, you have been counted. No Problem.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 14, 2025 09:03 PM (mFSH6)

234 This will be my first TX MoMe.

Posted by: GWB at September 14, 2025 09:03 PM (RTQn+)

235 156 ... Lee dies should work in most presses. They all use the same threads. I will say unless you found a deal on a press or got one as a gift, Lee presses are the best value for cost and quality. They are the only brand I've used for 40 years with no problems. If you want a single stage press, which is all Weasel and I use, a Lee breech lock press can be had new for about 85 bucks, less if on sale. And it will last several lifetimes.

Posted by: JTB at September 14, 2025 09:03 PM (yTvNw)

236 If I buy a Lee die set will it install properly in a Hornady, Dillon, RCBS press?
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IIRC, the Dillon Square Deal press requires proprietary dies. Everything else is interchangeable AFAIK.
Posted by: Oddbob
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50 BMG is an oddball one too, if it isn't obvious.

Lee Whack-a-Mole might be oddball dies, but it's complete stand-a-lone anyway.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 14, 2025 09:03 PM (/lPRQ)

237 GWB, thank you for joining us.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 14, 2025 09:04 PM (mFSH6)

238 Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at September 14, 2025 09:02 PM (ZOv7s)
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I first met Weasel Buddy Geoff at the range when we were both there shooting DE .50AE at the same time.

Posted by: Weasel at September 14, 2025 09:05 PM (YnIVK)

239 But then, what does? : )
Posted by: Cow Demon
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A single stack P225 is what.

Posted by: whig at September 14, 2025 09:05 PM (WDjG6)

240 Regret for what you pass on buying is common in gunworld. The old song Right Place, Wrong Time.
Posted by: whig

Or what you had and sold. I had an 1982 6" Nickel Plated Colt Python .357 and let it go, back when there was no issue in getting them. A couple of years go by and you can't find one to save your life.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 14, 2025 09:06 PM (hx5BH)

241 RMBS, I'm planning on bringing the following smaller framed handguns:
1) .32 ACP Beretta Model 81
2) .32 ACP Walther PPK/S SD (w/ suppressor)
3) .32 ACP Walther PPK

RMBS Mom has already shot the PPK/S SD w/ the suppressor. I think the other two have very mild recoil too.
Posted by: Ed L at September 14, 2025 07:47 PM (BCwQW)

FWIW, my plan this year is to come to the MoMee via AZ, and tote along some of the ironmongery to be found there, including a Spanish Ruby in .32 ACP.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 14, 2025 09:06 PM (kaqWV)

242 I just realized that my son's wedding is supposed to be "Texas formal" i.e. suits, boots, and hats. And here I am without a decent BBQ gun. I will definitely be underdressed.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 14, 2025 09:07 PM (3nLb4)

243 A single stack P225 is what.
Posted by: whig at September 14, 2025 09:05 PM (WDjG6)

I gotta try that out. I am partial to my P226 Tacops.

Posted by: Cow Demon at September 14, 2025 09:08 PM (xDJJe)

244 Or what you had and sold. I had an 1982 6" Nickel Plated Colt Python .357 and let it go, back when there was no issue in getting them. A couple of years go by and you can't find one to save your life.
Posted by: rickb223
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Ouch. I always been partial to nickel plating myself. Stainless is more practical though.

Posted by: whig at September 14, 2025 09:08 PM (WDjG6)

245 236 ... "Lee Whack-a-Mole might be oddball dies,"

The Lee whack-a-mole sets don't have threads since they aren't used in a press.

Posted by: JTB at September 14, 2025 09:08 PM (yTvNw)

246 I gotta try that out. I am partial to my P226 Tacops.
Posted by: Cow Demon
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The P225 was the original 9mm counterpart to the P220 in 45 ACP. The double stacks came along later. Problem now is the original P225/P6 (german police/military id) mags are up to $70 bucks per when and if you can find them.

Both are accurate and often easier for people to handle with smaller hands.

Posted by: whig at September 14, 2025 09:10 PM (WDjG6)

247 Foggy, windy and cold all day today.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 14, 2025 09:10 PM (RIvkX)

248 Or what you had and sold. I had an 1982 6" Nickel Plated Colt Python .357 and let it go, back when there was no issue in getting them. A couple of years go by and you can't find one to save your life.
Posted by: rickb223

You can blame the walkers for that.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 14, 2025 09:12 PM (/lPRQ)

249 Nowadays, I probably would go with a 10mm Semi Auto to be honest if I had to go into bear country without a longarm.
Posted by: whig at September 14, 2025 08:48 PM (WDjG6)

Palmetto State Armory has a nice 10mm Tisas brand 1911 for a very reasonable price. I just ordered one.

I keep banging the drum for Turkish 1911 clones. Get them while you can, before world events send them the way of the $89 SKS rifle and dirt cheap Russian ammo.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at September 14, 2025 09:12 PM (acXKL)

250 My son is getting married in early November and I can't swing two trips. Hopefully there will be more MoMes but no more weddings.
Posted by: Oddbob at September 14, 2025 08:03 PM (SnZH4)

Hey, Ben Had, there's enough room to host a wedding out there, right? Two birds, one stone, all that.

Posted by: GWB at September 14, 2025 09:13 PM (RTQn+)

251 Blued steel ,wood and silver engraving gets me every time.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 14, 2025 09:13 PM (mFSH6)

252 Had a bunch of family in town for Mom's 90th birthday party. Took mom, sister, niece, and her boyfriend to the private range. Mom insisted on shooting the .357. I put .38 loads in it, but it's too heavy for her any more. Had a lot of fun, and the Garand proved far more popular than I expected. We ran through all the clips I had. The last 2 or 3 got hard to load; it seemed like the follower was coming up too high and I struggled to get the clips loaded. I had 5 loose rounds left, and put them in a clip and got it loaded. Sent the bolt home and the thing locked up tighter than Dick's hat band. Couldn't pull the trigger; couldn't get the bolt to move; couldn't even engage the safety. Any suggestions before I head to the gunsmith?

Posted by: Baron Munchausen at September 14, 2025 09:13 PM (C1NyB)

253 I gotta try that out. I am partial to my P226 Tacops.
Posted by: Cow Demon
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One other thing, the older P series were designed around hardball--they work best with the more graceful older hollowpoint designs resembling FMJ profiles like Golden Saber, etc. than the new truncated types like Hornady XTP bullet designs. The old Federal 9BLP works great in those as well.

Posted by: whig at September 14, 2025 09:14 PM (WDjG6)

254 Regret for what you pass on buying is common in gunworld. The old song Right Place, Wrong Time.
Posted by: whig at September 14, 2025 09:01 PM (WDjG6)
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Almost all the guns I've passed up were ones I couldn't afford. I didn't regret letting them go, I regretted being poor.

I would have loved to have bought a Chinese SKS when they were dirt cheap, or a Mosin out of the $50 rack, but it was not to be.

Poverty has made me very strategic in my purchases, and has also given me a taste for the obscure and therefore cheap. Lots of cool stuff can be had for cheap.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at September 14, 2025 09:14 PM (ZOv7s)

255 I thought about that but wasn't sure about having a big X on my back on the range!
Posted by: Weasel at September 14, 2025 08:58 PM

Your point is valid.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 14, 2025 09:15 PM (Wnv9h)

256 GWB, there is indeed. Matter of fact we are having a service for a couple.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 14, 2025 09:15 PM (mFSH6)

257 I keep banging the drum for Turkish 1911 clones. Get them while you can, before world events send them the way of the $89 SKS rifle and dirt cheap Russian ammo.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy
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I would tend to agree.

Posted by: whig at September 14, 2025 09:15 PM (WDjG6)

258 Don’t know if this is topical or not, apologies if not, but two Pakistanis have been arrested for placing a bomb (didn’t go off) under a Fox news van in Utah.

Posted by: Common Tater at September 14, 2025 09:16 PM (vE9dg)

259 OK, who's the cigar-smoking Sigma Chi?
Posted by: Captain Ned at September 14, 2025 08:35 PM (nADdg)

In Hoc!
Ready to smoke!

Posted by: Diogenes at September 14, 2025 09:16 PM (2WIwB)

260 I will say unless you found a deal on a press or got one as a gift, Lee presses are the best value for cost and quality.

+1

My "main" press is an RCBS because I thought I would need the leverage for sizing .30-06 and such. I probably didn't. A friend of mine uses a Lee aluminum O-frame press and he can be kind of ham-handed. He's managed to break it a couple of times and Lee has replaced each time. If you're starting from scratch, consider something like this:

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1013011111

Posted by: Oddbob at September 14, 2025 09:16 PM (3nLb4)

261 before world events send them the way of the $89 SKS rifle and dirt cheap Russian ammo.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy

Talk about regrets. 7.62x39 = redneck .30-30.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 14, 2025 09:17 PM (hx5BH)

262 247 Foggy, windy and cold all day today.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 14, 2025 09:10 PM
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Visited your locale last week briefly on business. Saw for myself some of the challenges. Best wishes. Will keep you in my prayers.

Posted by: TRex - seeing is believing at September 14, 2025 09:17 PM (PDUpY)

263 Blued steel ,wood and silver engraving gets me every time.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 14, 2025 09:13 PM (mFSH6)
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Have you been following the auctions of the Tom Selleck collection on Youtube? The man knows his stuff. Crazy elite items for sale, all sorts of rare factory inlays for 19th Century rifles chambered in forgotten calibers.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at September 14, 2025 09:17 PM (ZOv7s)

264 Poverty has made me very strategic in my purchases, and has also given me a taste for the obscure and therefore cheap. Lots of cool stuff can be had for cheap.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd
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It can. I buy used almost always but I can fix most of the minor problems that a firearm has--have a gunsmith for issues like a bulged barrel.

Basically armorer level on most items--don't have nor want a lathe/mill because others can do that for me better and cheaper than I can do that myself. Ditto for precision tig and mig welding.

Unfortunately, all good thing come to an end and neuromuscular issues have done a number on me along with inflammatory arthritis.

Posted by: whig at September 14, 2025 09:18 PM (WDjG6)

265 257 I keep banging the drum for Turkish 1911 clones. Get them while you can, before world events send them the way of the $89 SKS rifle and dirt cheap Russian ammo.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy
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I would tend to agree.
Posted by: whig at September 14, 2025 09:15 PM (WDjG6)
Tisas 1911 Commander size.

Posted by: Eromero at September 14, 2025 09:18 PM (LHPAg)

266 Any suggestions before I head to the gunsmith?
Posted by: Baron Munchausen

I'll resist offerin to buy the whole shooting match for a buck-3 99... keep in mind, heat expands, but old loose stuff shouldn't.

Posted by: MkY at September 14, 2025 09:19 PM (cPGH3)

267 I keep banging the drum for Turkish 1911 clones. Get them while you can, before world events send them the way of the $89 SKS rifle and dirt cheap Russian ammo.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at September 14, 2025 09:12 PM (acXKL)
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I thought about the Tisas CMP clone, but I'm going to try and buy the genuine article. I've never been a 1911 fan, but they are part of American history and every serious collector needs one.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at September 14, 2025 09:20 PM (ZOv7s)

268 our .357 lever gun.
Posted by: blaster at September 14, 2025 08:28 PM (RoO7G)

Oh! I looked at a Marlin (in .357) in the store when I picked up my Beretta. I was really surprised by the thickness (in both directions) of the lever. That sucker is monstrous.

I seemed to recall levers being thinner (but I have no real experience with them). Is it a difference in the metal used (steel vs aluminum)?

Posted by: GWB at September 14, 2025 09:20 PM (RTQn+)

269 Not that I am a guru of any sort on the topic, but have never heard of a Garand malfunction described above. Yikes.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 14, 2025 09:20 PM (U/Byj)

270 AH Lloyd, one of my Uncles was a gunsmith and created treasure like that.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 14, 2025 09:20 PM (mFSH6)

271 My "main" press is an RCBS because I thought I would need the leverage for sizing .30-06 and such. I probably didn't. A friend of mine uses a Lee aluminum O-frame press and he can be kind of ham-handed. He's managed to break it a couple of times and Lee has replaced each time. If you're starting from scratch, consider something like this:

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1013011111
Posted by: Oddbob

I've used Lyman's new Turret Press, the old RCBS Rockchucker, and a bunch of lee presses.

Probably my favorites though is the Classic Cast Lee Turret for handguns and the Classic Cast Lee Press for rifle.

Never shot enough in recent years to want anything else. But progressives, Dillon is the gold std. for hobbyists.

Posted by: whig at September 14, 2025 09:21 PM (WDjG6)

272 And I'd say "gunsmith time" for the locked-up M1.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 14, 2025 09:21 PM (U/Byj)

273 Also a big fan of CAO Italia and CAO Brazilia .......

Italia has a 4-country blend with Nicaraguan, Peruvian, and Italian tobaccos with a Honduran wrapper.

Brazilia has Brazilian long-fillers and a Nicaraguan tobacco wrapper

Posted by: Jackson at September 14, 2025 09:21 PM (xl8DV)

274 I keep banging the drum for Turkish 1911 clones. Get them while you can, before world events send them the way of the $89 SKS rifle and dirt cheap Russian ammo.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy

Got mine a year ago and I love it.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 14, 2025 09:21 PM (2WIwB)

275 219 I will let the cat out of the bag, so to speak, here. Eromero has provided T-shirts for everyone in attendance this year.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 14, 2025 08:57 PM
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Hooray! Thank you, Eromero!

Posted by: TRex - dino size t-shirt at September 14, 2025 09:22 PM (PDUpY)

276 OK, 9:23 thank you time!

Thank you!

Hope to see you all here next Sunday, and in person in Texas next month!

Posted by: Weasel at September 14, 2025 09:23 PM (xTinh)

277 I will let the cat out of the bag, so to speak, here. Eromero has provided T-shirts for everyone in attendance this year.

Posted by: Ben Had

Wow.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 14, 2025 09:23 PM (hx5BH)

278 Thanks for another great Gun Thread, Weasel!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 14, 2025 09:23 PM (Wnv9h)

279 TRex, they are short sleeved so you are in luck!

Posted by: Ben Had at September 14, 2025 09:25 PM (mFSH6)

280 It can. I buy used almost always but I can fix most of the minor problems that a firearm has--have a gunsmith for issues like a bulged barrel.

Posted by: whig at September 14, 2025 09:18 PM (WDjG6)
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Before making a purchase, I check the parts suppliers to see what is out there. Mostly springs are the issue, but I had the cocking piece on my FR 7 go kaput. You remember the FR 7, of course. Well, I got it running well with my custom magazine block and then it went to shit, and I puzzled over it, and had the bright idea of comparing it to another Mauser and WOW, that cocking piece is a wreck.

Ordered part, had to hand fit it, but now it runs really smooth. Delightful, honestly. It is a little off when using German plastic practice ammo, but that's to be expected. The bolt face and bullet shape are wrong, but it's worth the hassle for a big boom with no recoil and dirt cheap ammo.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at September 14, 2025 09:25 PM (ZOv7s)

281 My Lee 4-hole turret press (acquired barely used for quite a bit below the already modest "new" price) is my only one, and it has been great. Remove one part, you have a nice fairly heavy single-stage press (which I used for 30-06). Several of the dies sets acquired used, in great condition. All of it will outlive you if not wildly abused.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 14, 2025 09:25 PM (U/Byj)

282 Captain Ned,
See my #259.
BU chapter Washington State U.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 14, 2025 09:25 PM (2WIwB)

283 247 Foggy, windy and cold all day today.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

High of 63 here today. No rain though. Dry as a bone.

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 14, 2025 09:26 PM (1027l)

284 ...it seemed like the follower was coming up too high and I struggled to get the clips loaded.

IANAGS but I'm trying to think of what would allow the follower to come up too high and all I can think of is that little L-shaped link hat bears against the op-rod spring. If the pins on that link or the notches that the pins fit into broke, that might do it. In any case, it doesn't sound good and it might not be a bad idea to call the 'smith before taking a loaded rifle into the shop. He may prefer to meet you at a range instead.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 14, 2025 09:26 PM (3nLb4)

285 Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 14, 2025 09:23 PM (Wnv9h)
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Thanks, bro. See you soon!

Posted by: Weasel at September 14, 2025 09:26 PM (xTinh)

286 Thanks weasel!

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 14, 2025 09:27 PM (1027l)

287 Jackson I've yet to try the CAO Italia, but the Brazilia is good. I'm a sucker for anything with Brazilian tobacco, mata fina or arapiraca. Years back I spent quite a bit of time in the state of Bahia, where all this tobacco is grown, but alas that was before the cigar bug bit, so didn't get to the tobacco areas.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 14, 2025 09:28 PM (U/Byj)

288 TRex, they are short sleeved so you are in luck!

Hahahaha! That's CotW material right there.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 14, 2025 09:28 PM (3nLb4)

289 AH Lloyd, one of my Uncles was a gunsmith and created treasure like that.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 14, 2025 09:20 PM (mFSH6)
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A lot of the current market really fixates on polymer and I wonder where the old wood and steel stuff will end up. Do the young folks understand heritage weapons, or do they just want the latest Glock?

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at September 14, 2025 09:28 PM (ZOv7s)

290 nurse, thank you for all you do.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 14, 2025 09:28 PM (mFSH6)

291 TXMoMe veterans: please jump into the comments to encourage the scairdy-cats to join in the fun! What was your first MoMe like? What were you expecting? Were you surprised? Did you have a great time?

I wasn't actually surprised, and it was sort of what I was expecting. Years in music got me used to mingling in large crowds, and you meet some interesting people. One example, I was talking to dude one time who was shitfaced and head banging. I find out he's a scientist working in a small team of other scientists from around the world working on a better cure for malaria. The MoMe is like that. I figured there would be people from all walks of life with varying backgrounds, but with a unifying common interest, and it was exactly that. Its the people you hang with every frigging day here, and they are way more interesting in person. The setting/scenery is amazing. The gathering is amazing, the food, the booze, the ettes, the guns. It...is...a...blast. Don't be a frigging slug, show up and join the party.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 14, 2025 09:28 PM (snZF9)

292 Thank you, Weasel! Hope WW, FSJ, Gertie and the gato are doing well!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 14, 2025 09:30 PM (0sNs1)

293 High of 63 here today. No rain though. Dry as a bone.
Posted by: nurse ratched at September 14, 2025 09:26 PM (1027l)

No rain here today. Temps in the '70's, some thin high overcast, with sunny periods. All in all, very nice. Did a 20 mile cruise in the Avanti before commencing to take it apart again.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 14, 2025 09:30 PM (1ogME)

294 Thanks, bro. See you soon!
Posted by: Weasel at September 14, 2025 09:26 PM

*fistbump*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 14, 2025 09:31 PM (Wnv9h)

295 Will there be a requirement for .223 ammo?
Posted by: rickb223 at September 14, 2025 08:53 PM (hx5BH)

I'm sure there will be, but not from me. (I'd bring plenty if I were driving.)

Posted by: GWB at September 14, 2025 09:31 PM (RTQn+)

296 Things you will see at the MoMe. Berserker having a wonderful conversation with a guy that sings in the Mormon Tabernacle Choir.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 14, 2025 09:32 PM (mFSH6)

297 Here's a secret for those of you interested in collecting WW II-era weapons: avoid the Hitler stamp. It costs more and people try to fake it.

This isn't just about German weapons, there are lots of weapons used by the Axis that don't have the Waffenamt stamp. Go for those. Same stuff, much less $$$.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at September 14, 2025 09:32 PM (ZOv7s)

298 The same goes for Arisakas and the mum. If you just want the rifle, get the rifle.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at September 14, 2025 09:33 PM (ZOv7s)

299 I bought a bunch of Nuggets when they were $65 at Big 5.
Mismatched bolts and 30 yo cosmoline. 3 out of 6 actually work. We actually found a case of 20 with matching bolts for $899 at one point but nobody wanted to go in on it.
I picked up my Russian SKS during the mass china import thing for $125. Market was flooded. Dude didn't know what he had. Just that it was next to a bunch of cheap P'sOS. I giggled for a while at that one.
Other favorite from those wild crazy days is the PSL. Which I think is Russian for "poor mans Dragonov". $850 new in the box. I've had people offer me $3000 for it. One of my favorite guns. Not for sale.

Posted by: Reforger at September 14, 2025 09:35 PM (SPOEc)

300 Talk about regrets. 7.62x39 = redneck .30-30.
Posted by: rickb223
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Not hard nor expensive to build a 7.62x39 AR, decent mags and bolts and firing pins for them now.

Built one as a fun gun back in the Obammy years as a FU to him.

Posted by: whig at September 14, 2025 09:35 PM (WDjG6)

301 279 TRex, they are short sleeved so you are in luck!

Posted by: Ben Had at September 14, 2025 09:25 PM
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I see what you did there. :-)
Well played.

Posted by: TRex - fashion emergency at September 14, 2025 09:35 PM (PDUpY)

302 Hey, we smoked (pun fully intended) the Food Thread and weren't really trying.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at September 14, 2025 09:35 PM (v23vE)

303 TRex, they are short sleeved so you are in luck!
Posted by: Ben Had
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LOL

Posted by: scampydog at September 14, 2025 09:36 PM (mMWDg)

304 TRex, they are short sleeved so you are in luck!

Hahahaha! That's CotW material right there.
Posted by: Oddbob at September 14, 2025 09:28 PM

Seconded.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 14, 2025 09:37 PM (Wnv9h)

305 scampydog, so looking forward to meeting both of you.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 14, 2025 09:37 PM (mFSH6)

306 I picked up my Russian SKS during the mass china import thing for $125. Market was flooded. Dude didn't know what he had. Just that it was next to a bunch of cheap P'sOS.

I got a Russian SKS at a pawnshop for about 150 back in the day but without the bayonet. Fun gun with Tech Sights on them and handloaded ammo made it a 2.5 MOA or so rifle at 100 yds. Had to do the Murray's Gunshop floating firing pin mod though to use std. primers.

Posted by: whig at September 14, 2025 09:37 PM (WDjG6)

307 296 Things you will see at the MoMe. Berserker having a wonderful conversation with a guy that sings in the Mormon Tabernacle Choir.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 14, 2025 09:32 PM
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The breadth and depth of knowledge and interests is remarkable. Floating in and out of conversations is like being at the best dinner party (but this one has bacon...)

Posted by: TRex - dino introvert at September 14, 2025 09:37 PM (PDUpY)

308 Things you will see at the MoMe. Berserker having a wonderful conversation with a guy that sings in the Mormon Tabernacle Choir.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 14, 2025 09:32 PM (mFSH6)

and the universe survived. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 14, 2025 09:37 PM (snZF9)

309 Small sample but have consistently found younger shooters at my club very interested in the M1 (its little brother M1 as well). By far the biggest attention getters on the line.

Last month a Navy ship's weapons detachment had several guys very excited about my carry that day (Colt Magnum Carry), saying they loved revolvers.

Blued steel and walnut (or Arctic birch, for the Soviet stuff) - certainly my favorites.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 14, 2025 09:37 PM (U/Byj)

310 The Horde is a magical group of folks. I say this as a lifelong introvert.
Posted by: Mikey Alpha Kilo, Nerd? Yes, we much at September 14, 2025 09:00 PM (0aYVJ)

The whole bunch is full of introverts. It's crazy. Get 'em together and you'd think they were a bunch of party animals. I have enjoyed every NoVaMoMe I've been to. (And consider myself blessed to have met these folks.)

Posted by: GWB at September 14, 2025 09:38 PM (RTQn+)

311 @JDVance 38m
Tomorrow, I will have the honor of hosting the Charlie Kirk Show. Please join me as I pay tribute to my friend.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 14, 2025 09:38 PM (mlg/3)

312 305 scampydog, so looking forward to meeting both of you.
Posted by: Ben Had
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Very nice of you to say, thank you. We are very excited to meet you and others.

Posted by: scampydog at September 14, 2025 09:40 PM (mMWDg)

313 The breadth and depth of knowledge and interests is remarkable. Floating in and out of conversations is like being at the best dinner party (but this one has bacon...)

Posted by: TRex - dino introvert at September 14, 2025 09:37 PM (PDUpY)

The mingling is the best part. Ah yes, and the bacon, and our amazing bacon wench. I'll be bringing the taylor ham/pork role this year as usual.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 14, 2025 09:41 PM (snZF9)

314 Colt Magnum Carry...

Posted by: rhomboid at September 14, 2025 09:37 PM (U/Byj)

Fancy!

And a very nice looking revolver!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at September 14, 2025 09:41 PM (n9ltV)

315 Well, getting late. Thanks, Weasel!

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at September 14, 2025 09:43 PM (ZOv7s)

316 Berserker, that is so generous of you. That stuff is amazing. Thank you.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 14, 2025 09:43 PM (mFSH6)

317 Posted by: GWB at September 14, 2025 09:38 PM (RTQn+)
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You are in for one hell of a good time.

Posted by: Weasel at September 14, 2025 09:43 PM (mYLg6)

318 The breadth and depth of knowledge and interests is remarkable. Floating in and out of conversations is like being at the best dinner party (but this one has bacon...)
Posted by: TRex

I've said that for years. The breadth & depth of knowledge is scary.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 14, 2025 09:43 PM (hx5BH)

319 Berserker, that is so generous of you. That stuff is amazing. Thank you.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 14, 2025 09:43 PM (mFSH6)

I know, the only serious alternative to bacon in the known universe.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 14, 2025 09:44 PM (snZF9)

320 Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at September 14, 2025 09:43 PM (ZOv7s)
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Adios AHL!

Posted by: Weasel at September 14, 2025 09:44 PM (mYLg6)

321 Don’t know if this is topical or not, apologies if not, but two Pakistanis have been arrested for placing a bomb (didn’t go off) under a Fox news van in Utah.
Posted by: Common Tater at September 14, 2025 09:16 PM (vE9dg)

Absolutely relevant. It goes to the very first part of self-defense/carry: Keep your head on a swivel! Also, stay strapped and frosty.

Posted by: GWB at September 14, 2025 09:45 PM (RTQn+)

322 The Rockies lost.

Posted by: gKWVE at September 14, 2025 09:45 PM (gKWVE)

323 298 The same goes for Arisakas and the mum. If you just want the rifle, get the rifle.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd
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I've rebuilt a few (T38's and T99s) and bought one early T99 relatively untouched that still had the AA sights and a mangled but original monopod on it. Dates to 1942. Left that one alone.

But unless you want a .303 Clone, the T99 is expensive to feed and relatively mediocre operation--bolt safeties can be bugaboos on them with wear. The older T38 is an odd semi rimmed cartridge, even harder to find, and okay if anemic as a cartridge. Not worth it except in a historical sense.

FWIW, be very careful dealing with the Japanese Lacquer on Arisaka stocks--made with poison sumac tree sap and has urushional in it (sp) which is the active ingredient in poison ivy. Do not sand these stocks!!!. Sometimes this lacquer looks like a poorly done polyurethane job toward the end of production with drips, etc. Leave it alone for health and collectibility.

Posted by: whig at September 14, 2025 09:45 PM (WDjG6)

324 Mariners have won eight in a row and are now a half a game over the Astros.

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 14, 2025 09:46 PM (mT+6a)

325 CBD it really does the best classic snub-nose revolver "look", to me. Funny how I got it. Local store had a yuuuge consignment sale from the estate of a long-time customer. I was there just checking as I used to do for their consignment revolvers.

Clerk knew I wasn't looking to spend big $, but he sort of pushed me a bit on this as he knew I was a revolver guy. Forced me to get on the call list (I was #3). One day I was moving rocks in the front yard (xeriscape out there), get a call. Clerk says first two customers on wait list dropped out. I hemmed, hawed, hemmed some more, then drove over and put down nearly twice the $ I ever had for a gun. Glad I did. Didn't buy as an investment but easily more than doubled its price by now.

Had a nice custom holster made by a guy in FL. Always sparks a conversation (and I do shoot it, occasionally, for fun and practice, but only my own tuned-down handloads).

Posted by: rhomboid at September 14, 2025 09:46 PM (U/Byj)

326 IF you just came for the deep fried bacon and Taylor ham you would be astounded.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 14, 2025 09:47 PM (mFSH6)

327 309 Small sample but have consistently found younger shooters at my club very interested in the M1 (its little brother M1 as well). By far the biggest attention getters on the line.

Last month a Navy ship's weapons detachment had several guys very excited about my carry that day (Colt Magnum Carry), saying they loved revolvers.

Blued steel and walnut (or Arctic birch, for the Soviet stuff) - certainly my favorites.
Posted by: rhomboid
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Those are all sweet firearms. Nice of you to let them touch and see a piece of history in action.

Posted by: whig at September 14, 2025 09:47 PM (WDjG6)

328 Get down, get funky. If you haven't seen the Maori dancing in the link in the sidebar, check it out. But I don't understand. I thought Charlie Kirk hated minorities.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Raging Like Godzilla! at September 14, 2025 09:48 PM (L/fGl)

329 Oh - and my Magnum Carry was featured as eye candy in my review of the Montecristo White Series cigar, years back, rightcha here on this lifestyle blog. It's purty.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 14, 2025 09:49 PM (U/Byj)

330 Soooo … Diogenes was a Sigma Chi? Well then - hello from TKE.

Posted by: Dr_No at September 14, 2025 09:51 PM (ayRl+)

331 whig I always have a few clips just for the "gee whiz" shooters, who of course love the M1 even more when they shoot it. And depending on situation I sort of push the young ones to try it. And I have a canned "check out the CMP" spiel I lay on them. I know at least two who were at the range later who had followed up and had their own M1s.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 14, 2025 09:51 PM (U/Byj)

332 And, before it gets away from me:
Thanks, again, Weasel! This is THE place to be on a Sunday evening.

Posted by: GWB at September 14, 2025 09:51 PM (RTQn+)

333 Hope WW... are doing well!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 14, 2025 09:30 PM (0sNs1)

We didn't get a WW update! How is she doing?

Posted by: GWB at September 14, 2025 09:52 PM (RTQn+)

334 And depending on situation I sort of push the young ones to try it. And I have a canned "check out the CMP" spiel I lay on them. I know at least two who were at the range later who had followed up and had their own M1s.
Posted by: rhomboid

I need to talk to you then.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 14, 2025 09:53 PM (hx5BH)

335 Bought a new Walther pd380 for concealed carry after this last week. It's a shame i'm such a butter fingers itll probably fall in a lake or river before i even get home with it.

Bought it with Cabela's gift certificates from my woke employer though which is hilariously ironic imo

Posted by: MrManCan at September 14, 2025 09:53 PM (828+k)

336 Yep thanks Weasel as ever for creating this great thread.

More see-gar reviews in-bound in the near future.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 14, 2025 09:53 PM (U/Byj)

337 I thought about bringing the garand and the 1917 Enfield, but those are 30.06. I can't even imagine what that costs these days to shoot. Instead I'm bringing the 2 Remington heavy barrel 700s in 308. One hasn't been fired in 35 years, the other has never been fired.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 14, 2025 09:53 PM (snZF9)

338 Evan though bads things happin this weak we be needs two continue two elebrates diversity.

Posted by: Mary Clogenstein from Brattleboro, Vt at September 14, 2025 09:53 PM (WMVWg)

339 Weasel, Please let WeaselWoman know she is still in our prayers.

Posted by: Mrs JTB at September 14, 2025 09:54 PM (yTvNw)

340 297 Here's a secret for those of you interested in collecting WW II-era weapons: avoid the Hitler stamp. It costs more and people try to fake it.

This isn't just about German weapons, there are lots of weapons used by the Axis that don't have the Waffenamt stamp. Go for those. Same stuff, much less $$$.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd
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I have two WWII era Oberndorfs k98 and one WWI GEW98. Curiously enough, all of the specs of bolts, receiver, etc. match each other to the .001. Oberndorf (original Peter Mauser factory) never used slave labor AFAIK to produce them either.
All of mine had minor issues--the WWI 1916 Oberndorf Mauser had been tapped for a peep sight on the left side of the receiver, the 1936 was a Yugo Capture, probably reblued receiver. The 1943 had a battered and tapped receiver ring.

Yugos left the swaztikas on many of their captured Mausers for whatever reason. The Russians must have assigned a bunch of prisoners to hammer out those hagenkreuz on their captured ones.

Posted by: whig at September 14, 2025 09:54 PM (WDjG6)

341 We didn't get a WW update! How is she doing?
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She's ok. She fractured her shin bone and the ortho guy says 12 weeks or so to heal. She's able to get around some on crutches and with some difficulty is still going to work but is stuck in a chair once she gets there. She will be fine, she's just tired of the limited mobility.

Thanks for asking!

Posted by: Weasel at September 14, 2025 09:56 PM (mYLg6)

342 337 I thought about bringing the garand and the 1917 Enfield, but those are 30.06. I can't even imagine what that costs these days to shoot. Instead I'm bringing the 2 Remington heavy barrel 700s in 308. One hasn't been fired in 35 years, the other has never been fired.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
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30-06 is still fairly reasonable especially in 150gr blasting quality for the 1917 but the new mfg Garand specced ammo is a bit more and sometimes hard to find.

308 is the right call.

Posted by: whig at September 14, 2025 09:56 PM (WDjG6)

343 Posted by: rhomboid at September 14, 2025 09:53 PM (U/Byj)
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Thanks!

Posted by: Weasel at September 14, 2025 09:57 PM (mYLg6)

344 She's ok. She fractured her shin bone and the ortho guy says 12 weeks or so to heal. She's able to get around some on crutches and with some difficulty is still going to work but is stuck in a chair once she gets there. She will be fine, she's just tired of the limited mobility.

Thanks for asking!
Posted by: Weasel
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Ouch, familiar with leg injuries. Tell her to take it easy until the bones knit.

Posted by: whig at September 14, 2025 09:57 PM (WDjG6)

345 rickb223, really just go to the CMP website. There are "qualifications" buy a firearm from the CMP, but they're generally easy to meet. Membership/affiliation with a CMP-linked club, or $20 to join the Garand Collectors Association, plus some evidence of firearm safety/operational competence (got the paper checked off by my old indoor range).

I don't even allow myself to go to the site anymore (the sales part, anyway) as for several reasons I just can't add anything to the collection right now. But somebody above said they had 1917s again (this is EXTREMELY stressful to know, have long wanted one, caliber compatibility and all), even 1911s.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 14, 2025 09:57 PM (U/Byj)

346 Posted by: Mrs JTB at September 14, 2025 09:54 PM (yTvNw)
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Thank you, I will!

Posted by: Weasel at September 14, 2025 09:57 PM (mYLg6)

347 Soooo … Diogenes was a Sigma Chi? Well then - hello from TKE.
Posted by: Dr_No at September 14, 2025 09:51 PM (ayRl+)

Yo!

But to clarify, I am still a Sigma Chi. Hell, I even still remember the words to the Sweetheart of Sigma Chi song. And!!! We have our own cigars!

Posted by: Diogenes at September 14, 2025 09:57 PM (2WIwB)

348 I need to talk to you then.

https://is.gd/f34XWX

https://thecmp.org/

Posted by: Oddbob at September 14, 2025 09:59 PM (3nLb4)

349 Thank you, Weasel, for hosting yet another fine Gun Thread!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 14, 2025 09:59 PM (6LwyY)

350 Berserker I reload 30-06, otherwise wouldn't touch off the M1s nearly as much (not that it's enough, even as is). Started with 800 rounds of CMP surplus (Greek, HXP), and still use the brass. Per my SOP I got a can of 500 rounds from Prvi Partisan as my "strategic reserve", which I expect I'll burn up some (distant?) day when I finally decide to wind down the shooting.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 14, 2025 10:00 PM (U/Byj)

351 Posted by: rhomboid at September 14, 2025 09:57 PM (U/Byj)
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I had the CMP re-barrel my 1917. They did an outstanding job!

Posted by: Weasel at September 14, 2025 10:00 PM (mYLg6)

352 331 whig I always have a few clips just for the "gee whiz" shooters, who of course love the M1 even more when they shoot it. And depending on situation I sort of push the young ones to try it. And I have a canned "check out the CMP" spiel I lay on them. I know at least two who were at the range later who had followed up and had their own M1s.
Posted by: rhomboid
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Garands are nice and we inherited them from FIL. Only problem is he liked brand new wood etc. on them which CMP was glad to do back in the day. Pretty stocks, certificate, and refinished hardware. Sigh. Nice to look at but not my favorites. I prefer bolt actions myself. Used the Carbine as a house gun for awhile before ammo got scarce and expensive.

Went over to ARs for that reason.

Posted by: whig at September 14, 2025 10:01 PM (WDjG6)

353 Thanks AOP!

Posted by: Weasel at September 14, 2025 10:01 PM (mYLg6)

354 Mon chi chi mon chi chi.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 14, 2025 10:01 PM (rgMfe)

355 We're willowed now I suspect but Weasel one of the many things I've never been able to do that's on my list is the CMP's mini-course for armorers for M1s. Don't even know if they still offer it.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 14, 2025 10:02 PM (U/Byj)

356 I had the CMP re-barrel my 1917. They did an outstanding job!
Posted by: Weasel
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Heh. I rebarreled my first 1917 with a WWII era HS barrel. Matched the parkerizing on the receiver.

Built it from a bare parkerized receiver with new matching parts (which you could get in those days) and a beat up original 1917 stock from Numrich. At that time, you couldn't buy the repro stocks for them.

Stock has generous "character" but after cleaning, turned out to be a fairly scarce blondish walnut with a fairly open grain to it. That open grain probably caused a chip around the mag area sometime in the past. Left it as is to honor its condition.

Fun to shoot.

Posted by: whig at September 14, 2025 10:05 PM (WDjG6)

357 Posted by: rhomboid at September 14, 2025 10:02 PM (U/Byj)
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I'd love to do that!

Posted by: Weasel at September 14, 2025 10:07 PM (HfpuP)

358 Got my M-1 thru DCM 'back in the day' … still got it, too. Looks like it may have received a bit of 'unit-level' maintenance on the stock, too. But, the cartouche is 'EMcF', so there's that. It looks as if the Anniston Depot updated the guts, too - I guess that's a good thing. It's a Springfield. My other M-1 was H&R … sold that one at a gun show in Chalmette, LA.

Posted by: Dr_No at September 14, 2025 10:09 PM (ayRl+)

359 ...one of the many things I've never been able to do that's on my list is the CMP's mini-course for armorers for M1s. Don't even know if they still offer it.

Yes, they do! Get on their email list.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 14, 2025 10:13 PM (3nLb4)

360 Got my M-1 thru DCM 'back in the day' … still got it, too. Looks like it may have received a bit of 'unit-level' maintenance on the stock, too. But, the cartouche is 'EMcF', so there's that. It looks as if the Anniston Depot updated the guts, too - I guess that's a good thing. It's a Springfield. My other M-1 was H&R … sold that one at a gun show in Chalmette, LA.
Posted by: Dr_No at September 14, 2025 10:09 PM

When I was going through the paperwork for the RMBS Dad's guns, I found the documents for his 80s vintage CMP Garand. $135.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 14, 2025 10:14 PM (Wnv9h)

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