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Glenn Greenwald
@ggreenwald

The attempt to blame left-liberals for Kirk's murder relies on the same dangerous theory liberals invoked to blame conservatives for the white supremacist slaughters in Buffalo, Charleston and the El Paso Walmart (e.g., those who accuse Dems of "replacing" Americans with immigration inspired those massacres).

Everyone says bad things about the other side in politics. The left calls MAGA fascist and the right calls the left deranged commies. You're not responsible for psychopaths who murder in the name of your cause (it'd be like blaming pro-life advocates for the murders of abortion doctors, which liberals also do).

As Kirk himself said: "WORDS ARE NOT VIOLENCE. ONLY VIOLENCE IS VIOLENCE." Stop trying to convert words and the expression of views into criminal violence.

No, Gleen, it's not the same. We are not attacking the left for having differences of political opinion. We are not attacking them for having weird beliefs.

We are attacking them for celebrating assassination and murder. We are attacking them for calling for the next "pew pew" against the President Donald Trump.

If Trump goes down -- we are at war.

You are right that most words are not violence. But some words are: Specifically those calling for someone to be killed, or praising an assassin for killing someone, with hopes that additional assassins will emerge.

That is what we are condemning. I do grant that some people are making the mistake of attempting to criminalize mere strong political invective -- but what we're really incensed by is that Taylor Lorenz continues to praise Luigi Mangione for his assassination and absolutely zero people in the supposedly "Respectable" media have even so much as chastised her for it.

Indeed, CNN had her on to giggle about it.

Either the left stops openly glorifying violence and calling for Trump or other Republicans to be "pew pewed" -- their puerile, cutesy way of saying "shot" -- or the right is going to start publishing our own Pew Pew Lists.

This is not a difference of political opinion. We on the right will not have a "debate" about whether leftwing assassins are allowed to murder us, our friends, or our leaders.

That will be a civil war situation.

It's not up for debate. Leftwingers arguing that it is justified to murder me, my friends, and my family, and my president, are not offering a political position. They are openly conspiring to commit murder, and we don't debate murderers. We arrest them and, if necessary, we kill them.

The left cannot put itself above the social compact. The basline, rock-bottom social compact is just "you and I are in the same tribe, the same nation, and I agree to not murder you if you agree not not murder me. And we also agree not to incite our more dangerous, mentally-unstable members to kill each other, either."

If we do not have that, we do not have a country, and we are in state of war. The rules of society do not apply, only the rules of war and violence do.



Larry Correia
@monsterhunter45

These poor fools are missing the big picture.
When there's a killing the left always tries to assign the killer to the right. We're used to it. And the vast majority of the right always overwhelmingly condemns the killer.

Only this time all the moderate normie republicans out there saw MILLIONS of liberals celebrate and justify the brutal murder of a man... all because that man held beliefs similar to theirs. Beliefs that regular Americans consider completely normal and common sense.

These normal folks were going about their day, then they saw some shocking brutality, and before they could even process it all their liberal friends were dancing in the blood and gleefully justifying it. "He deserved it for believing X and Y." And that normal person realized that they also believe X and Y, so them getting murdered would be just as celebrated too. At best they saw a "Murder is bad, BUT... he deserved it for believing X and Y."

And the lights go on.

It doesn't matter how hard the left scrambles to put the shooter in some particular ideological bucket to cover their asses and take no blame (as usual), because regular America saw how fucking gleeful libs were when somebody just like them dies horribly, and they realized that the left wants them dead. Not metaphorically. They want you to die. Some of us have known this for a long time because we pissed off the left somehow previously, but for the regular folks coming to that understanding is a life changing moment.

You ain't brushing this one off, Glenn.

We are not going to have a debate over whether we are legitimate targets for leftwing murderers.

If the left continues to cover up for its murderers, to celebrate murderers, to call for additional murders -- then we will too. If it's the rule for one, it's the rule for all.

Tim Hannan
@TimHannan

1 guy acted alone and they want to go to war? It's like they just were looking for any reason.

First of all: He didn't act alone. He had accomplices, who all thought this was a nice antifa lark.

Second of all:

Shoe
@shoe0nhead

one guy acted alone. then we saw the reaction of millions. some posting with their full names and faces. teachers, childcare workers, healthcare workers, hr professionals, game developers. hundreds of thousands of people that walk amongst every day, who live next door to us, people i thought were friends, people i thought were normal people celebrating the gruesome public execution of a father shot in the fucking throat in front of his young children, celebrating because he politically does not agree with them. we saw their real beliefs when the " in this house believe" shitlib mask was ripped off. sociopathic freaks.

This is what takes this from being "one man's crime" to a crime supported by, encouraged by, and covered up half the nation.

Either murder is forbidden for all or it is permitted for all. We will no longer permit the left's asymmetry of privilege to commit "glorious revolutionary murder" because they think they're on the right side of history.

Posted by: Ace at 03:32 PM




Comments

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1 NOBODY CAN BEAT THE BLADE TO FIRST

Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 12, 2025 03:32 PM (iFTx/)

2 Gray

Posted by: Ann at September 12, 2025 03:32 PM (4neFu)

3 WOW

Posted by: RUReadingthis at September 12, 2025 03:32 PM (aQ25I)

4 Feeling gray?
Had a day?
Wash those awful vibes away!

Posted by: Zombie Breitbart at September 12, 2025 03:33 PM (uya/g)

5 Glenn Greenwald with a huge swing...and a MISS!

Posted by: kallisto at September 12, 2025 03:33 PM (dCxaZ)

6 So the shooter was a groyper? Is this confirmed?

Posted by: The Letter J at September 12, 2025 03:34 PM (Z/h4+)

7 It's not up for debate. Leftwingers arguing that it is justified to murder me, my friends, and my family, and my president, are not offering a political position. They are openly conspiring to commit murder, and we don't debate murderers. We arrest them and, if necessary, we kill them.

======

The line, "It's unfortunate Kirk got killed, but he had it coming," implies, heavily, that it's justified to kill people merely for belief.

We need to know which beliefs, very specifically, justify murder to them.

And then we can tell them which beliefs, specifically, justify murder to us.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 12, 2025 03:34 PM (GBKbO)

8
I hate gleem greemwald.

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 12, 2025 03:34 PM (O7j1V)

9 because regular America saw how fucking gleeful libs were when somebody just like them dies horribly, and they realized that the left wants them dead. Not metaphorically.

I have seen vids of demorats who are so disgusted by the death celebrations that they have left the plantation.

Posted by: kallisto at September 12, 2025 03:35 PM (dCxaZ)

10 Man, Anthony Hopkins is a good actor.

Posted by: That guy who always misses the main point at September 12, 2025 03:35 PM (Riz8t)

11 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 12, 2025 03:35 PM (Zz0t1)

12 You leave Glenn alone! He's written a New York Times bestselling book on executive authority, broken a story on my blog about wiretapping that led to front-page stories on most major newspapers in the country, and Russ Feingold read from my blog during the Censure hearings. I mean, his.

Posted by: Rick Ellensburg at September 12, 2025 03:36 PM (gKWVE)

13 I honestly think these college kids think there's a re-spawn or a do over if they get killed. Because those of us that know there isn't such a thing aren not usually so flippant about killing.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 12, 2025 03:36 PM (D3P9d)

14
Megyn Kelly, who has fully redeemed herself, likes to have gleen on her podcast, but I still hate him. He has always disgusted me.

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 12, 2025 03:36 PM (O7j1V)

15 I love the Babylon Bee headline of:

"‘Why Won’t Conservatives Give Up Their Guns?’ Ask The People Shooting At Them

Posted by: Leupold at September 12, 2025 03:36 PM (4pwAx)

16 The line, "It's unfortunate Kirk got killed, but he had it coming," implies, heavily, that it's justified to kill people merely for belief.

We need to know which beliefs, very specifically, justify murder to them.

And then we can tell them which beliefs, specifically, justify murder to us.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 12, 2025 03:34 PM (GBKbO)

It's obvious; fascists are nazis and it's okay to kill them. Repubs and those that have a contrary believe are fascists and nazis, so it's more than okay to kill them, it's justified and morally sanctioned.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 12, 2025 03:36 PM (ynpvh)

17 9 because regular America saw how fucking gleeful libs were when somebody just like them dies horribly, and they realized that the left wants them dead. Not metaphorically.

I have seen vids of demorats who are so disgusted by the death celebrations that they have left the plantation.
Posted by: kallisto at September 12, 2025 03:35 PM (dCxaZ)

========

The last two weeks, starting with the Democrat reaction to "thoughts and prayers" after a tranny killed Christian kids in Minneapolis, to the Democrat reaction to attacking those pointing out the brutality of the Iryna Charlotte train murder, and finally to the Democrat reaction to the murder of a debate team captain, have been...radicalizing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 12, 2025 03:36 PM (GBKbO)

18 >>>12 You leave Glenn alone! He's written a New York Times bestselling book on executive authority, broken a story on my blog about wiretapping that led to front-page stories on most major newspapers in the country, and Russ Feingold read from my blog during the Censure hearings. I mean, his.

Posted by: Rick Ellensburg

Holy crap, look at the memory on Big Brain over here! That's perfect!

Do you have that saved? You must.

Posted by: ace at September 12, 2025 03:37 PM (KRtlO)

19 >>> 7 It's not up for debate. Leftwingers arguing that it is justified to murder me, my friends, and my family, and my president, are not offering a political position. They are openly conspiring to commit murder, and we don't debate murderers. We arrest them and, if necessary, we kill them.

======

The line, "It's unfortunate Kirk got killed, but he had it coming," implies, heavily, that it's justified to kill people merely for belief.

We need to know which beliefs, very specifically, justify murder to them.

And then we can tell them which beliefs, specifically, justify murder to us.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 12, 2025 03:34 PM (GBKbO)

Typing and deleting here.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 12, 2025 03:37 PM (ULPxl)

20 Lefts get a few extra strung out to do their dirty work just like Muslims get radical to commit Jihad.

Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2025 03:37 PM (+qU29)

21 Glenn Greenwald
@ggreenwald



You DICK!!!!

Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at September 12, 2025 03:37 PM (Zz0t1)

22 I read the content.

Did you?

Would you like to know more?

https://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=416457

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 12, 2025 03:37 PM (0sNs1)

23 The left is putting out T shirts with a mortally wounded Kirk and the words: "Debate this".


That perfectly encapsulates the left. Their idea of winning a debate is violence.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 12, 2025 03:37 PM (0U5gm)

24 22 I read the content.

Did you?

Would you like to know more?

https://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=416457
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 12, 2025 03:37 PM (0sNs1)

======

Ace told us last week not to read the content.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 12, 2025 03:37 PM (GBKbO)

25 The Left will never forgive us for their murder of our friends.

Posted by: toby928 repeats himself at September 12, 2025 03:37 PM (jc0TO)

26 If Trump or Vance are assassinated, I think the country is over.

Posted by: mr tmz at September 12, 2025 03:38 PM (rJ48h)

27 Another difference: how many people on the right gleefully celebrated those attacks, you retard?

Greenwald has always been a doctranaire useful fucking idiot for the hard left. Hell fuckjng watch people led to camps by his fucking fellow travelers- but he'll feel bad about it and maybe write some stories about it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at September 12, 2025 03:38 PM (zZu0s)

28 The left cannot put itself above the social compact. The basline, rock-bottom social compact is just "you and I are in the same tribe, the same nation, and I agree to not murder you if you agree not not murder me. And we also agree not to incite our more dangerous, mentally-unstable members to kill each other, either."
-
The Left has been outside the social compact for a long time, the only thing keeping them appearing to be inside is the foolish sentimentality of the Right.

The Left has been quite vocal of their rejection of America's founding, and the values which were part of it. They have been quite open in their desire to "fundamentally transform" the country. They are not in any sense that matters American.

And we must stop treating them as if they are.

Posted by: Methos at September 12, 2025 03:38 PM (zLwRl)

29 1 NOBODY CAN BEAT THE BLADE TO FIRST
Posted by: Elric The Blade


Is that what we're calling it now?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 12, 2025 03:38 PM (abIsI)

30 We need to dismantle the democrat party and deem it to be a terrorist group.
War!!!

Posted by: MAC V SOG at September 12, 2025 03:38 PM (P4Pk9)

31 We need to know which beliefs, very specifically, justify murder to them.

Perhaps if they put out a volume with words or thoughts that are worthy of death, and those that only merit wounding and/or maiming?

Posted by: Archimedes at September 12, 2025 03:38 PM (Riz8t)

32 27 Another difference: how many people on the right gleefully celebrated those attacks, you retard?

Greenwald has always been a doctranaire useful fucking idiot for the hard left. Hell fuckjng watch people led to camps by his fucking fellow travelers- but he'll feel bad about it and maybe write some stories about it.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at September 12, 2025 03:38 PM (zZu0s)

======

Yeah.

I remember the wait for baited breath from all of us at the news of the Minnesota state legislator murders.

It wasn't us waiting to jump with glee.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 12, 2025 03:39 PM (GBKbO)

33 10 Man, Anthony Hopkins is a good actor.
Posted by: That guy who always misses the main point at September 12, 2025 03:35 PM (Riz8t)

True!

Posted by: m at September 12, 2025 03:39 PM (aURVT)

34 And then we can tell them which beliefs, specifically, justify murder to us.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison


Abortion.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 12, 2025 03:39 PM (D3P9d)

35
I don't hate the Democrats for what they believe or for what they think. I don't even hate the Democrats, i.e., all the Left, for what they say.


I hate the Democrats for what they do.

And they do evil.

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 12, 2025 03:39 PM (O7j1V)

36 23 The left is putting out T shirts with a mortally wounded Kirk and the words: "Debate this".


That perfectly encapsulates the left. Their idea of winning a debate is violence.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 12, 2025 03:37 PM (0U5gm)

Yup. They're the party of punishing wrong-think. In the UK, you can't even PRAY SILENTLY on a bench across the street from an abortion clinic.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 12, 2025 03:39 PM (ynpvh)

37 Oh, I skipped the corriea remarks. He said the same thing.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at September 12, 2025 03:39 PM (zZu0s)

38 Hell, we're always going to be accused of incitement, violence, "worse than Hitler." It does not matter what we do, so might as well have some righteous fun. If accused of incitement, I'm inclined to just say, "Yeah, so what?"

Posted by: Martin Tell at September 12, 2025 03:39 PM (sFNX2)

39 The conflation of "words" and "argument" is interesting.

If your words are "someone should kill this guy", those words are nowhere near the same moral valence as "you should/ shouldn't be allowed to do this or that thing". And especially not comparable to "this thing you are doing, caring it a Lifestyle, is not healthy for you and will only lead to unhappiness for you".

The Words/Violence dichotomy is misleading.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 12, 2025 03:40 PM (06Hmj)

40 I used more profanity though.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at September 12, 2025 03:40 PM (zZu0s)

41 29 1 NOBODY CAN BEAT THE BLADE TO FIRST
Posted by: Elric The Blade

Is that what we're calling it now?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 12, 2025 03:38 PM (abIsI)

He'll never make it to home base with that attitude...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 12, 2025 03:40 PM (ynpvh)

42 26 If Trump or Vance are assassinated, I think the country is over.
Posted by: mr tmz


I read last week that a person was able to bring a Glock into a Trump event undetected. Trump was present. Top. Men.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 12, 2025 03:40 PM (abIsI)

43
That's the Difference between Us & the Democrats:

Democrats hate us for what we think and say and believe.

We hate the Democrats for what they Do.

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 12, 2025 03:40 PM (O7j1V)

44 A big part of the problem is our side doesn't play for keeps. We just constantly allow ourselves to be bullied over and over again.


The first time a dude tried to play on a girls sports team and go into their showers, there should have been a parking lot full of dads waiting to convince these freaks they should find something else to do. Never should have gone to court.

Posted by: Leupold at September 12, 2025 03:40 PM (4pwAx)

45 Cultural Marxists push Trannies and Race warefare

Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2025 03:40 PM (+qU29)

46 Unfortunately Patrick Frey is now a dick, too.

Posted by: gKWVE at September 12, 2025 03:40 PM (gKWVE)

47 As Trump said, they are coming for you.

Posted by: JM in Illinois at September 12, 2025 03:41 PM (f3y3p)

48 Gleen was defending Nick Fuentes recently. After Tucker and Candace were basically suggesting Nick might be a Deep State asset.

But they mentioned the G-word, and more than anything else it seems, Gleen will defend the G's all the way down.

Hell, I'd expect if Ben Shapiro came out tomorrow and said "I can't lie anymore, I'm gay, I love the D," Gleen would suddenly be in favor of leveling Gaza.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2025 03:41 PM (/WHsm)

49 Either the left stops openly glorifying violence and calling for Trump or other Republicans to be "pew pewed" -- their puerile, cutesy way of saying "shot" -- or the right is going to start publishing our own Pew Pew Lists.
-
I believe there is already a website dedicated to recording the indentities of every single person who celebrated Kirk's assassination. It's purpose is to make the monsters unemployable, but it does exist.

Posted by: Methos at September 12, 2025 03:41 PM (zLwRl)

50 And then we can tell them which beliefs, specifically, justify murder to us.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 12, 2025 03:34 PM (GBKbO)

Had a similar conversation with someone last night on this topic, right here.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at September 12, 2025 03:41 PM (zZu0s)

51 If the left continues to cover up for its murderers, to celebrate murderers, to call for additional murders -- then we will too. If it's the rule for one, it's the rule for all.

If it's okay for you to shoot ours, it's okay for us to shoot yours.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at September 12, 2025 03:41 PM (oSeBJ)

52 The Bounty boasted bounteous bouncy beautiful boobage.

Posted by: Boobs. at September 12, 2025 03:41 PM (TbWk/)

53 I like how Michael Knowles put it, the left has reposnded to conservatives winning elections and winning debates with violence and assassination, the time for debate is over, conservatives must impose our moral vision on them.

They must reap the whirlwind.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 12, 2025 03:41 PM (1naHg)

54 James Lindsay's $0.02
https://tinyurl.com/catharsis-or-citizenship
The left seems to be in "catharsis" mode.

Posted by: techsan at September 12, 2025 03:41 PM (uNveu)

55 You know who else blame other people for political violence?

Posted by: dantesed at September 12, 2025 03:41 PM (Oy/m2)

56 If the left continues to cover up for its murderers, to celebrate murderers, to call for additional murders -- then we will too.
---
Logistically, it's inescapably.

Intentionally, however, I will not.

Posted by: Axeman, Patience IS a Virtue at September 12, 2025 03:41 PM (krQz2)

57 NOBODY CAN BEAT THE BLADE TO FIRST
Posted by: Elric The


Art thread. Rant thread. Two in a row this morning.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 12, 2025 03:41 PM (D3P9d)

58 I hate gleem greemwald.
Posted by: Soothsayer at September 12, 2025 03:34 PM (O7j1V)

The insane left nonpersoned him and drove him off out of the country, but he's still on the front steps defending them for it.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 12, 2025 03:41 PM (8avO+)

59 Ace told us last week not to read the content.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 12, 2025 03:37 PM


What??? I must have not read that.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 12, 2025 03:42 PM (0sNs1)

60 NOBODY CAN BEAT THE BLADE TO FIRST

Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 12, 2025 03:32 PM (iFTx/)

I know, and I'm fucking tired of it.

Posted by: Every hot girl The Blade drilled at September 12, 2025 03:42 PM (oSeBJ)

61 see the shoeonhead post i added, it's a sign that normie lefties have had enough.

Posted by: ace at September 12, 2025 03:42 PM (KRtlO)

62 Shoe
@shoe0nhead
one guy acted alone. then we saw the reaction of millions. some posting with their full names and faces. teachers, childcare workers, healthcare workers, hr professionals, game developers. hundreds of thousands of people that walk amongst every day, who live next door to us, people i thought were friends, people i thought were normal people celebrating the gruesome public execution of a father shot in the fucking throat in front of his young children, celebrating because he politically does not agree with them. we saw their real beliefs when the " in this house believe" shitlib mask was ripped off. sociopathic freaks.

=======

If the left hadn't outright celebrated the assassination at the low end and made excuses at the high end, the right would be more in mourning than rage.

Telling us who the left is in ways that even the dumbest, most illiterate of us could understand told us things. Unpleasant things.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 12, 2025 03:42 PM (GBKbO)

63 Oh, I skipped the corriea remarks. He said the same thing.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at September 12, 2025 03:39 PM


Breitbart nods

Posted by: toby928 at September 12, 2025 03:42 PM (jc0TO)

64 Where is even one elected Democrat, in the last 10 years, that warned calling Republicans "Nazis" would lead to violence and must stop?

There isn't one.

But there has never been a shortage of elected Republicans willing to tell their base to tone down the rhetoric.

Go fuck a goat, Gleenn.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 12, 2025 03:42 PM (NwfFc)

65 The Bounty boasted bounteous bouncy beautiful boobage.
Posted by: Boobs

Yes, it did.

Posted by: Bulg at September 12, 2025 03:42 PM (77rzZ)

66 55 You know who else blame other people for political violence?

Posted by: dantesed at September 12, 2025 03:41 PM (Oy/m2)

The Muzzies.
The Commies.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 12, 2025 03:42 PM (ynpvh)

67
gllen is STILL of the belief that the Democrats are "the good guys." He still believes Democrats "mean well."

That's why he makes excuses for his party, that's why they'll always be treated more leniently by people like greenwald.

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 12, 2025 03:42 PM (O7j1V)

68 Uh... Glen? Haven't you lived in Brazil for the last 20 years?

If you are not living here... if you are not experiencing the day to day life in the US? Why should we listen to you?

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 12, 2025 03:42 PM (mP0Kj)

69 NOBODY CAN BEAT THE BLADE TO FIRST
Posted by: Elric The Blade

Is that what we're calling it now?
Posted by: Maj. Healey

We always knew what 'crossing swords' really was referring to. . .

Posted by: Tonypete at September 12, 2025 03:43 PM (cYBz/)

70 where is Gleen now? Brazil or something?

that's a hot mess over there

hope he's enjoying!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at September 12, 2025 03:43 PM (FHttA)

71 Well stated, Ace!

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at September 12, 2025 03:43 PM (5yDGQ)

72 We are not going to have a debate over whether we are legitimate targets for leftwing murderers.

If the left continues to cover up for its murderers, to celebrate murderers, to call for additional murders -- then we will too. If it's the rule for one, it's the rule for all.


There's nothing personal in what I'm about to say, but everyone deep down knows this is bullshit, and it's why they'll go right on terrorizing the right, because it will work. They've already tried to murder Trump. They murdered Kirk. SWATting sure isn't a rightwing phenomenon. We could probably dig up other examples. It's not lefties who have to be silent in public spaces, not wear a MAGA hat, etc. to avoid violence. There's no line they could cross that's going to have Republicans shooting back. It's just not going to happen. And to be clear, I'm not saying it should happen; but it won't happen.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 12, 2025 03:43 PM (JcN3o)

73 "No, Gleen, it's not the same. We are not attacking the left for having differences of political opinion. We are not attacking them for having weird beliefs. We are attacking them for celebrating assassination and murder. We are attacking them for calling for the next "pew pew" against the President Donald Trump."

Ace, I agree but will add what I think is the main reason why it's not the same: unlike the right, the left knows full well that its movement is crawling with lunatics that will act out the left's political violence fetishes.

That's a yuge difference. Rightwingers can rant about evil Mengeles like Fauci and even say he deserves a horrible fate. Rightwingers have been ranting about that.

So ... where are all the attempts on Fauci's life? The reality is that there are very very few people on the right who actually will be stirred to political murder.

The same is clearly not true of the left. The left is crawling with murderous maggots and dysentery. Their leaders know this, cater to this, and fully expect that violence and murders will result.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 12, 2025 03:43 PM (iFTx/)

74 64 Where is even one elected Democrat, in the last 10 years, that warned calling Republicans "Nazis" would lead to violence and must stop?

There isn't one.

But there has never been a shortage of elected Republicans willing to tell their base to tone down the rhetoric.

Go fuck a goat, Gleenn.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 12, 2025 03:42 PM (NwfFc)

He might be more into little boys, or so I heard...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 12, 2025 03:43 PM (ynpvh)

75 55 You know who else blame other people for political violence?
Posted by: dantesed at September 12, 2025 03:41 PM (Oy/m2)

Ironic. They call us Nazis as they act out their murderous brownshirt fantasies.

Posted by: Repeating history at September 12, 2025 03:43 PM (TbWk/)

76 Glenn's way off base on this.

There is no mass media operation on the right that's constantly priming their followers to commit violence against their political opponents.

There's no constant drumbeat of invective aimed at the left coming from TV networks, movies, series, websites, social media, college campuses, and activist groups on the right, because we don't control those spaces.

The conservativesphere has made great gains over the past decade but it's influence still pales in comparison to the amount of influence the modern left has on nations across the world due to their near-total monopoly on culture, propaganda outlets, education, and the bureaucracies.


This isn't "both sides have psychopaths, so nobody is responsible", it's "one side intentionally creates psychopaths and is responsible for their eventual acts of violence."

Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 12, 2025 03:43 PM (6ydKt)

77 The conflation of "words" and "argument" is interesting.

If your words are "someone should kill this guy", those words are nowhere near the same moral valence as "you should/ shouldn't be allowed to do this or that thing". And especially not comparable to "this thing you are doing, caring it a Lifestyle, is not healthy for you and will only lead to unhappiness for you".

The Words/Violence dichotomy is misleading.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 12, 2025 03:40 PM (06Hmj)
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They were just jaw-boning about murder. -- I forgot who.

Posted by: Axeman, Patience IS a Virtue at September 12, 2025 03:43 PM (krQz2)

78 Go fuck a goat, Gleenn.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice

I wonder how many "e's" and "n's" his name is going to end up with before this thread is done.

Posted by: Bulg at September 12, 2025 03:43 PM (77rzZ)

79 61 see the shoeonhead post i added, it's a sign that normie lefties have had enough.
Posted by: ace at September 12, 2025 03:42 PM (KRtlO)

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She will continue to vote Democrat (see her issue priorities).

But, the cultural cache of the left just continues to fracture. There is now infighting at a massive level for the whole world to see between those who do want one country with different policy preferences and the Maoists.

And, as you keep highlighting, the left just...looks ugly now. Ugly people saying ugly things.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 12, 2025 03:44 PM (GBKbO)

80 If Trump or Vance are assassinated, I think the country is over.

Posted by: mr tmz at September 12, 2025 03:38 PM (rJ48h)

I think it's in very serious danger of being over NOW.

What happens in the next few weeks will determine quite a bit.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at September 12, 2025 03:44 PM (oSeBJ)

81 Go fuck a goat, Gleenn.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 12, 2025 03:42 PM (NwfFc)

No, not lambchop!

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at September 12, 2025 03:44 PM (zZu0s)

82 The first time a dude tried to play on a girls sports team and go into their showers, there should have been a parking lot full of dads waiting to convince these freaks they should find something else to do. Never should have gone to court.
Posted by: Leupold at September 12, 2025 03:40 PM (4pwAx)

That's why they started at colleges where the dads are far away.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 12, 2025 03:44 PM (8avO+)

83 26 If Trump or Vance are assassinated, I think the country is over.

I hope security for them has been upped since Charlie Kirk's assasination and not with some creep with the Secret Service who thinks Kirk's killing was justified.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 12, 2025 03:44 PM (afKoR)

84 NOBODY CAN BEAT THE BLADE TO FIRST

Posted by: Elric The Blade

I know, and I'm fucking tired of it.
Posted by: Every hot girl The Blade drilled


Ouch. That'll leave a mark.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 12, 2025 03:44 PM (D3P9d)

85 >>>She will continue to vote Democrat (see her issue priorities).

that's not my problem. All I want from her is the agreement that murder is bad, and she agrees emphatically.

Posted by: ace at September 12, 2025 03:44 PM (KRtlO)

86 NOBODY CAN BEAT THE BLADE TO FIRST
Posted by: Elric The

It's almost like the Blade has nothing else to do.

Posted by: dantesed at September 12, 2025 03:44 PM (Oy/m2)

87 "This is not a difference of political opinion. We on the right will not have a "debate" about whether leftwing assassins are allowed to murder us, our friends, or our leaders.

That will be a civil war situation."

Neither will we entertain debate about 2 am raids for standing around holding a sign, or about disarming us. Or for prosecution/red flags for basic political statements like the EU/UK.

People held back on the premise we had a functional society and wanted to try keeping it. Even the normies know, now, who these people are, and most of them are just fucking done with this.

Posted by: heya at September 12, 2025 03:44 PM (gzBW8)

88 We hate the Democrats for what they Do.
Posted by: Soothsayer at September 12, 2025 03:40 PM (O7j1V)

I hate them because the are the party of Lies. Name one issue where their entire platform is not comprised of lies. They represent Untruth. There is nothing else there. Pick a topic. Fabricate a preposterous position. Fabricate data and false myths to bolster the preposterous position. Threaten and employ violence against any who refuse to comply. Pervert the power of government to perpetuate the absurdity. That's all they do. That's all they are.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 12, 2025 03:45 PM (06Hmj)

89 If Trump goes down -- we are at war.

Maybe not even Trump.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 12, 2025 03:45 PM (2WIwB)

90 Uh... Glen? Haven't you lived in Brazil for the last 20 years?

If you are not living here... if you are not experiencing the day to day life in the US? Why should we listen to you?


Eh. There's no shortage of people at this here site telling the Brits and other Euros what they should do.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 12, 2025 03:45 PM (Riz8t)

91 That boat ride turned into a hell of a mess.

There both more temperate now.

Posted by: DaveA at September 12, 2025 03:45 PM (FhXTo)

92 Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2025 03:41 PM (/WHsm

So as a female who loves the D and thinks Gaza should have been leveled on 10/8, am I a gay male now?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 12, 2025 03:45 PM (Vvh2V)

93 Remember when -Unite the Right- a made up group no one has ever heard of, made each and every one of you and me responsible for the highly unfortunate and terrible terrible terrible terrible death of some leftard agitator? I remember.

Posted by: ... at September 12, 2025 03:45 PM (3rt5k)

94 I know I always take my social and moral cues from a guy who wears a maid outfit while licking another man's spit off the floor.

Posted by: The_Hoser at September 12, 2025 03:45 PM (f4jia)

95 85 >>>She will continue to vote Democrat (see her issue priorities).

that's not my problem. All I want from her is the agreement that murder is bad, and she agrees emphatically.

Posted by: ace at September 12, 2025 03:44 PM (KRtlO)

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Of course.

My main focus was less on voting behavior but more on the cultural dominance of the left and its continued erosion.

Open fractures where one side is calling the other side monsters is a recipe for deterioration.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 12, 2025 03:45 PM (GBKbO)

96 And, as you keep highlighting, the left just...looks ugly now. Ugly people saying ugly things.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 12, 2025 03:44 PM (GBKbO)

The left has looked ugly since the 60s at least. You just weren't paying attention. I used to get in discussions with them waiting for them to advocate murder for the luz in grad school.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 12, 2025 03:46 PM (8avO+)

97 56 If the left continues to cover up for its murderers, to celebrate murderers, to call for additional murders -- then we will too.
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Logistically, it's inescapably.

Intentionally, however, I will not.
Posted by: Axeman, Patience IS a Virtue at September 12, 2025 03:41 PM (krQz2)

The Tshirt showing Kirk shot and 'Debate This' the left is putting out?

They are trying to intimidate us... what they don't understand is that they are just setting the rules for engagement.

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 12, 2025 03:46 PM (mP0Kj)

98 Still have concerns about Matt Walsh, Ben Shapiro Ann Coulter, Michael Knowles, Megyn Kelly.

If there's a lack of remorse, but instead a celebration, what's stopping some of these evil thugs from picking up the rifle?

Posted by: JM in Illinois at September 12, 2025 03:46 PM (dUV1Z)

99 Oh, I skipped the corriea remarks. He said the same thing.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at September 12, 2025 03:39 PM


So, can we mark you down for not reading the content?

Posted by: AoSHQ Permanent Record Clerk at September 12, 2025 03:46 PM (0sNs1)

100 The only thing I posted the day of the murder was to the left media
THERE IS NO EXCUSE!

I stand by that. The media in this country is as vile as the murder. They can go to hell.

Posted by: Case at September 12, 2025 03:46 PM (iwlvf)

101 There is now infighting at a massive level for the whole world to see between those who do want one country with different policy preferences and the Maoists.

You missed a perfectly good opportunity to quote Ten Bears.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 12, 2025 03:47 PM (Riz8t)

102 "If the left continues to cover up for its murderers, to celebrate murderers, to call for additional murders -- then we will too."

But the right doesn't have a million plus crazy killer types with means to do those murders. Because "conservatives" don't think that way -- and the conservative's life has too much other meaning (church, family, career) to waste it becoming (in)famous by killing a political enemy.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 12, 2025 03:47 PM (vbXSk)

103 98 Still have concerns about Matt Walsh, Ben Shapiro Ann Coulter, Michael Knowles, Megyn Kelly.

If there's a lack of remorse, but instead a celebration, what's stopping some of these evil thugs from picking up the rifle?

Posted by: JM in Illinois at September 12, 2025 03:46 PM (dUV1Z)

Their prior arrests for child molestation won't let them pass the background check.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 12, 2025 03:47 PM (ynpvh)

104 Orwell had it pegged. There's two basic views of public life. One is "leave me alone and I will leave you alone". We know that as "right ". The other is "I want power over you". We know that as "left".

Posted by: Azjaeger at September 12, 2025 03:47 PM (cnMKF)

105 So as a female who loves the D....

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 12, 2025 03:45 PM (Vvh2V)

Hi!

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at September 12, 2025 03:47 PM (zZu0s)

106 96 The left has looked ugly since the 60s at least. You just weren't paying attention. I used to get in discussions with them waiting for them to advocate murder for the luz in grad school.
Posted by: Oldcat at September 12, 2025 03:46 PM (8avO+)

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Fair.

But the democratization of media through social media which had previously allowed the left to only highlight their most polished advocates has broken down where any 4 with a man-hating complex and a septum ring can go viral because she screams into her camera about how much she hates her dad.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 12, 2025 03:47 PM (GBKbO)

107 that's a good post by Shoe up there

also the guy didn't act alone

Posted by: BlackOrchid at September 12, 2025 03:47 PM (FHttA)

108 98 Still have concerns about Matt Walsh, Ben Shapiro Ann Coulter, Michael Knowles, Megyn Kelly.

If there's a lack of remorse, but instead a celebration, what's stopping some of these evil thugs from picking up the rifle?
Posted by: JM in Illinois at September 12, 2025 03:46 PM (dUV1Z)

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Shapiro has said he's going to restart his college campus thing because of this. Probably no open air settings, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 12, 2025 03:48 PM (GBKbO)

109 Here's the thing about butthurt liberals--who actually fit that name: 10 years back they were voting for the leftists that they now ardently oppose.

They do not want to take account of which side of politics went off the rails. They want conservatives who were fighting against self-confessed "liberals" for decades to just suddenly see their claimed conservation of the "classical liberalism" as not conservatism, but as "liberalism" and demand we rehabilitate the word that people from that side of politics INSISTED we use for them in good faith conversations.

And also take their agenda of ideological cleanup of the "Right" as necessary.

Posted by: Axeman, Patience IS a Virtue at September 12, 2025 03:48 PM (krQz2)

110 .>>>But the right doesn't have a million plus crazy killer types with means to do those murders.

I don't know them but I imagine we have a few. There would be still more if we praised and valorized and hero-ized assassins like the left does.

Posted by: ace at September 12, 2025 03:48 PM (KRtlO)

111 When Ayatollah issued a Fatwa on Salman Rushdie, it was only words, right Glen ? NO violence there. How about we understand that there are categories of discourse, one is amicable discussion, and another is an order to shock troops and murderers, when words do result in violence.

Posted by: runner at September 12, 2025 03:48 PM (g47mK)

112 So, can we mark you down for not reading the content?
Posted by: AoSHQ Permanent Record Clerk at September 12, 2025 03:46 PM (0sNs1)

Sure.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at September 12, 2025 03:48 PM (zZu0s)

113 also the guy didn't act alone

Posted by: BlackOrchid

No, he didn't. Stan was behind it all.

Posted by: Bulg at September 12, 2025 03:48 PM (77rzZ)

114 To mutilate John Harington

Murder doth never prosper: what’s the reason?
Why, if it prosper, none dare call it murder.

The Bolsheviks plan on prospering.

Posted by: toby928 at September 12, 2025 03:48 PM (jc0TO)

115 see the shoeonhead post i added, it's a sign that normie lefties have had enough.
Posted by: ace at September 12, 2025 03:42 PM (KRtlO)



I'm still waiting for her debut on OnlyFans.

Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at September 12, 2025 03:49 PM (Zz0t1)

116 But the democratization of media through social media which had previously allowed the left to only highlight their most polished advocates has broken down where any 4 with a man-hating complex and a septum ring can go viral because she screams into her camera about how much she hates her dad.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 12, 2025 03:47 PM (GBKbO)

4? That's overly generous.

Posted by: 2s maybe, the raving psychosis puts them at -4 at September 12, 2025 03:49 PM (TbWk/)

117 No, not lambchop!
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at September 12, 2025 03:44 PM


Definitely not Lambchop!

Posted by: Sherry Lewis at September 12, 2025 03:49 PM (0sNs1)

118 Hey Glen show me the huge numbers of right wingers cheering on murders. I'll wait.

Posted by: steevy at September 12, 2025 03:49 PM (YwEeS)

119 Ace told us last week not to read the content.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 12, 2025 03:37 PM

What??? I must have not read that.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 12, 2025 03:42 PM (0sNs1)

It was more along the lines of, "Gee, you guys never read the content."

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at September 12, 2025 03:49 PM (bawFb)

120 I think Dems were pretty confident they could use lawfare to sideline us. That "almost" worked (basically locking up anyone that didn't think the 2020 election was fair and square, but not like they had hoped. Trump was supposed to be in an orange jumpsuit,

These leftist tactic susually do work, look at Europe in general and Bolsanaro in Brazil getting 27 years of prison for a "coup".


So killing your political opponents is the next logical step.

Posted by: Leupold at September 12, 2025 03:50 PM (4pwAx)

121 This comments violates my own desire to stop commenting here
Last night I was watching a cut of a longer Megyn Kelly interview, on YouTube, of Megyn interviewing Don Trump Jr. Don Jr. was actually very close friends with Charlie, and it was all he could do to break out in tears talking about him
Charlie was a real person. I enjoyed listening to his radio show, for years, on the local outlet he was broadcast from.
He was a real light in the darkness. He was very committed to getting Donald Trump elected in 2016, 2020, and 20204. Don Jr. said that, besides Donald Trump, the candidate, Charlie did more for his election than anybody else.
He worked very hard at confronting people who disagreed with him with intelligent discourse
"Prove me Wrong!" was his motto, and the banner at his college appearances.
Some people came in hating him; Don Jr. recalled their appearance at U Mich where about 60% of the crowd was against him, but that wasn't going to stop them. By the end of the evening, Don Jr. said that about 90% of the crowd was really interested in what Charlie had to say.
Continued on next comment

Posted by: Pepperidge Farms at September 12, 2025 03:50 PM (vcOmj)

122 I'm still waiting for her debut on OnlyFans.
Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at September 12, 2025 03:49 PM (Zz0t1)

Iirc, she has done nudes.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at September 12, 2025 03:50 PM (zZu0s)

123 where is Gleen now? Brazil or something?

that's a hot mess over there

hope he's enjoying!
Posted by: BlackOrchid at September 12, 2025 03:43 PM (FHttA)

Chile, I believe.

Before Trump's reelection, he was talking about the Supreme Court justice in Brazil, and his attempts to silence Twitter.

We don't hear Gleen talking about it much anymore. I wonder if someone came to his door, and told him what's what.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2025 03:50 PM (+66bp)

124 anyone remember Patricia O'Neill? She played Magenta, the cute maid, in Rocky Horror.

I watched episode one of "Hammer House of Horror" from 1980. It's a bad episode, a worthless basic bitch witch story.

But she shows her hooters in it.

Posted by: ace at September 12, 2025 03:50 PM (KRtlO)

125 Damn.....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 12, 2025 03:50 PM (Zz0t1)

126 110 .>>>I don't know them but I imagine we have a few. There would be still more if we praised and valorized and hero-ized assassins like the left does.
Posted by: ace at September 12, 2025 03:48 PM (KRtlO)

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Out of 70+ million Trump voters and millions more who didn't vote, I suspect there are a few hundred who have the knowledge, means, and opportunity to do something while thinking that eye for an eye is the way forward.

The only question is if they've gone as far as Solzhenitsyn describes:

"The moment the men who wanted to be left alone are forced to fight back, it is a form of suicide. They are literally killing off who they used to be. Which is why, when forced to take up violence, these men who wanted to be left alone, fight with unholy vengeance against those who murdered their former lives. They fight with raw hate, and a drive that cannot be fathomed by those who are merely play-acting at politics and terror. TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream and beg for mercy… but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the men who just wanted to be left alone."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 12, 2025 03:50 PM (GBKbO)

127 Democrats hate us for what we think and say and believe.

We hate the Democrats for what they Do.
Posted by: Soothsayer at September 12, 2025 03:40 PM (O7j1V)

No.

They hate all of us. We hate some of them.

We want to change their mind. They want to erase us from existence.
Posted

Posted by: ... at September 12, 2025 03:50 PM (3rt5k)

128 Either murder is forbidden for all or it is permitted for all.
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This is why some of us were always against abortion. Anyone who thinks they have a right to murder their own child, much less be celebrated for doing so, is not going to have any moral hangup killing any of the rest of us.

Posted by: Methos at September 12, 2025 03:50 PM (zLwRl)

129 I'm far more optimistic. Even if, hell maybe especially if, some particular someones are assassinated, that only accelerates the process. The lunatic left is finally on the down side of the preference cascade. Their days as a cultural force are drawing to an end. There is nowhere near enough of them to sustain anything like a true civil war. There will be terrorism and casualties, of course, and nothing is ever truly over, but outside of some spiciness in the bigger urban areas, life will go on more or less normally as the lunatic flail in their death throes.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 12, 2025 03:50 PM (06Hmj)

130 What's content, chief?

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 12, 2025 03:50 PM (4L9nF)

131 116 4? That's overly generous.
Posted by: 2s maybe, the raving psychosis puts them at -4 at September 12, 2025 03:49 PM (TbWk/)

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I'm not good with the 1-10 scale.

I'm too used to the 0-1 scale.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 12, 2025 03:51 PM (GBKbO)

132 But she shows her hooters in it.
Posted by: ace at September 12, 2025 03:50 PM (KRtlO)

Nice.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at September 12, 2025 03:51 PM (zZu0s)

133 where is Gleen now? Brazil or something?


Thailand?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 12, 2025 03:51 PM (abIsI)

134 Still have concerns about Matt Walsh, Ben Shapiro Ann Coulter, Michael Knowles, Megyn Kelly.

If there's a lack of remorse, but instead a celebration, what's stopping some of these evil thugs from picking up the rifle?
Posted by: JM in Illinois at September 12, 2025 03:46 PM (dUV1Z)

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Shapiro has said he's going to restart his college campus thing because of this. Probably no open air settings, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 12, 2025 03:48 PM (GBKbO)
______

How hard can it be to have more security? Especially in red states where guys have guns, how hard can it be to get some burly volunteers to stand around strapped up? If gun subculture is anything like other subcultures -- and I'm sure it is -- then gun fans will be happy to help.

Even if this is not possible, maybe we should ... I dunno ... make sure the fucking roofs are all secure? Especially after Butler, it's insane to me that there's apparently nobody watching roofs for strange shadowy figures carrying guns.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 12, 2025 03:51 PM (iFTx/)

135 It's moider I tells ya.

Posted by: wth at September 12, 2025 03:51 PM (v0R5T)

136
Just think, two weeks ago we were laughing about bolton getting his comeuppance, and last week we were correcting Cracker Barrel's deviance.

Now we're burying Charlie Kirk, who was young enough to be our son.

God Only Knows what's next.

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 12, 2025 03:51 PM (O7j1V)

137 111 When Ayatollah issued a Fatwa on Salman Rushdie, it was only words, right Glen ? NO violence there. How about we understand that there are categories of discourse, one is amicable discussion, and another is an order to shock troops and murderers, when words do result in violence.

Posted by: runner at September 12, 2025 03:48 PM (g47mK)

Indeed. There are threats, "fighting words", incitement to violence...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 12, 2025 03:52 PM (ynpvh)

138 oh, hammer house of horror is on Amazon prime. I watched it because I wanted to watch Night Gallery but they don't have that.

Posted by: ace at September 12, 2025 03:52 PM (KRtlO)

139 I watched episode one of "Hammer House of Horror" from 1980. It's a bad episode, a worthless basic bitch witch story.

But she shows her hooters in it.
Posted by: ace at September 12, 2025 03:50 PM



Are you jacking your own thread, he asks, as he goes to open a search engine window.

Posted by: toby928 at September 12, 2025 03:52 PM (jc0TO)

140 Remember "my violence is free speech, and your free speech is violence"? That is the battle cry of the left.

That paradigm is changing, and maybe reversing.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 12, 2025 03:52 PM (0U5gm)

141 Anyone who thinks they have a right to murder their own child, much less be celebrated for doing so, is not going to have any moral hangup killing any of the rest of us.
Posted by: Methos at September 12, 2025 03:50 PM (zLwRl)

This. It lowers the moral threshold and makes you not a murder virgin.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at September 12, 2025 03:52 PM (zZu0s)

142 @TimHannan
1 guy acted alone and they want to go to war? It's like they just were looking for any reason.


Let's not tell anyone that we have our statements and press releases cued up to call for blanket gun confiscation immediately after the next school shooting, m'kay?

Posted by: Democrats at September 12, 2025 03:52 PM (0sNs1)

143 Sh0e still has me blocked because I called her bald like 6 years ago.

As far as Gleet Gleetwald goes, f*** him in the eye socket with a jackhammer.

Posted by: XTC at September 12, 2025 03:52 PM (UnA8+)

144 When you get commie-mommy Sh0eonhead to condemn the left...the world has truly turned.

Posted by: cheshirecat at September 12, 2025 03:52 PM (TwA+r)

145 138 oh, hammer house of horror is on Amazon prime. I watched it because I wanted to watch Night Gallery but they don't have that.
Posted by: ace at September 12, 2025 03:52 PM (KRtlO)

======

I have decided to, at some point soon, watch all of the Hammer movies.

163 of them.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 12, 2025 03:53 PM (GBKbO)

146 Prometheus.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at September 12, 2025 03:53 PM (R6ueR)

147 It is the good faith by which we non-leftists called the Democrats the term that they preferred "liberal" that "liberal ideas" took on the meaning that they held for us.

And those liberal ideas are often recognized as coded with leftism.

And now, we seem to have the same snotty liberals on the anti-left, demanding that they be allowed to reorganize "the right" or you will be called names you don't agree with and we will talk bad about you.

Posted by: Axeman, Patience IS a Virtue at September 12, 2025 03:53 PM (krQz2)

148 "Still have concerns about Matt Walsh, Ben Shapiro Ann Coulter, Michael Knowles, Megyn Kelly."

I just listened to Coulter interview Anthony Cumia, and they both seem to be taking a step back, especially from outdoor events, to avoid any "copycat killers". Coulter mentions how good the Proud Boys were at protecting her at her events.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 12, 2025 03:53 PM (vbXSk)

149 If ace felt the need to mention them her hooters must be spectacular.

Posted by: steevy at September 12, 2025 03:53 PM (YwEeS)

150 Former President Joe Biden is running into a problem in his nascent effort to raise money for a presidential library: Donors are checked out.

“I want an $800,000 refund,” said John Morgan, a Florida-based personal injury lawyer. He was referring to the nearly $1 million he said he raised for Biden that went to then-Vice President Kamala Harris last year, after she assumed Biden’s role as the Democratic presidential nominee.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/rcna230452

“I don’t believe a library will ever be built unless it’s a bookmobile from the old days,” added Morgan, who is a longtime Biden devotee.

Posted by: On A Lighter Note at September 12, 2025 03:53 PM (qUkBO)

151 Shoe0nhead has said in her videos that she's more of a libertarian, or used to be until they got so useless and crazy.

She seems to be lost in the wilderness at this point, just wandering around in disbelief at where her country, and the people in it, turned into.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 12, 2025 03:53 PM (6ydKt)

152 "26 If Trump or Vance are assassinated, I think the country is over."

100%. I have said since 2016 that Trump is their last chance for peace. And starting with the Russia hoax , they are set on pissing it away.

I would rather not be a warlord but I refuse to be a serf.

Posted by: heya at September 12, 2025 03:53 PM (gzBW8)

153 "I'm still waiting for her debut on OnlyFans."

Dude, her n00ds are already on the internet for some time.

Posted by: cheshirecat at September 12, 2025 03:54 PM (TwA+r)

154 " It's like they just were looking for any reason."

Huh? Their guy kills our dude for having thoughts - they almost to a man, say it's at best well deserved, and at worst no big deal, and then claim **WE** "want to go to war".

They are still laughing at us. They really are. That's all that is. It has to be.

Posted by: ... at September 12, 2025 03:54 PM (3rt5k)

155 163 of them.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 12, 2025 03:53 PM (GBKbO)

That's a lot of popcorn.

Posted by: dantesed at September 12, 2025 03:54 PM (Oy/m2)

156 How hard can it be to have more security? Especially in red states where guys have guns, how hard can it be to get some burly volunteers to stand around strapped up? If gun subculture is anything like other subcultures -- and I'm sure it is -- then gun fans will be happy to help.

Even if this is not possible, maybe we should ... I dunno ... make sure the fucking roofs are all secure? Especially after Butler, it's insane to me that there's apparently nobody watching roofs for strange shadowy figures carrying guns.
Posted by: Elric The Blade

===

Just some sort of basic plexiglass shield would have been incredibly easy for them to put in front of Kirk, I cant believe he didn't even have that. It's a common fixture now in politics.

Posted by: Leupold at September 12, 2025 03:54 PM (4pwAx)

157 Ok, let's play devil's advocate.

Let's suppose a young man of leftist parents openly rebels and adopts rightwing beliefs. He gets deeply involved in far rightwing political beliefs over the internet.

As right leaning media and his new friends tell him to go assassinate members of the FNM he actually goes and kills David Muir in the middle of a news broadcast.

Now if this were to happen...how would the left react?!?

Posted by: 18-1 at September 12, 2025 03:54 PM (sKqQm)

158 Are you jacking your own thread, he asks, as he goes to open a search engine window.
Posted by: toby928 at September 12, 2025 03:52 PM


One of the requirements of the Cardboard Membership Level is multitaskability.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 12, 2025 03:54 PM (0sNs1)

159 Cernovich@Cernovich

If the murderer's family hadn't turned him in, the FBI would have killed the shooter and then covered up all connections to far left wing violence.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at September 12, 2025 03:54 PM (TGPs7)

160 >>> 142 @TimHannan
1 guy acted alone and they want to go to war? It's like they just were looking for any reason.

Let's not tell anyone that we have our statements and press releases cued up to call for blanket gun confiscation immediately after the next school shooting, m'kay?
Posted by: Democrats at September 12, 2025 03:52 PM (0sNs1)

Acted alone, maybe; supported by *millions* slobbering openly and eagerly for more blood.

They may get it.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 12, 2025 03:54 PM (ULPxl)

161 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 12, 2025 03:50 PM (GBKbO)

where did he say that ?

Posted by: runner at September 12, 2025 03:54 PM (g47mK)

162 hmm the bidenmobile

I mean that makes sense

Delaware is really fucking small

Posted by: BlackOrchid at September 12, 2025 03:54 PM (FHttA)

163 Larry Correia always nails it down...as does Ace. And, the Bounty video is just superb for the topic.

Well done all around.

Glenn...grow a pair and lose the sentiment for your old home. Someone else is living there now.

Posted by: Orson at September 12, 2025 03:54 PM (dIske)

164 I have spent parts of the last few days, reading the vituperative, hateful comments from people on "X" and elsewhere, that are glad that Charlie is dead, and called him a fascist and a NAZI (which he most certainly was not).
There is no helping these morons, these hateful, spiteful, angry assholes. They are happy wallowing in their hate.

Don't let yourself go there. Don't do what Charlie did not want to do...turn this into "Us versus Them". Other-izing the opposition, diminish them as human beings, and make it easy to think of killing them.
I read some of these things, and I want to CRUSH them, strangle them, stomp them.
And it is easy to let strong emotions poison your thinking.
The real alternative is a real Civil War. Do we really want that, with the street littered with the dead? Maybe you and me and others?

Posted by: Pepperidge Farms remembers at September 12, 2025 03:55 PM (vcOmj)

165 "Shoe0nhead has said in her videos that she's more of a libertarian, or used to be until they got so useless and crazy.

She seems to be lost in the wilderness at this point, just wandering around in disbelief at where her country, and the people in it, turned into."

She was a self-proclaimed Bernie-girl, then she married a Conservative catholic, had a baby, and finally woke up.

Posted by: cheshirecat at September 12, 2025 03:55 PM (TwA+r)

166 Its ludicrous that the Right would call Dems communists! Btw, don't forget to vote for Mamdani who will have government run grocery stores!!

Posted by: Botched_Lobotomy at September 12, 2025 03:55 PM (utoSg)

167 But she shows her hooters in it.

Hammer for decolletatge.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at September 12, 2025 03:55 PM (R6ueR)

168 My oddball Hammer pick, Captain Kronos:Vampire Slayer. A great idea executed rather poorly but it has its charms.

Posted by: steevy at September 12, 2025 03:55 PM (YwEeS)

169 Are you jacking your own thread, he asks, as he goes to open a search engine window.
Posted by: toby928 at September 12, 2025 03:52 PM


That's not all he's jacking.

Posted by: Toobin' to the oldies at September 12, 2025 03:55 PM (TbWk/)

170 >>>149 If ace felt the need to mention them her hooters must be spectacular.

well they're kinda what you expect. All hooters are nice hooters. Nothing particularly special.

Posted by: ace at September 12, 2025 03:55 PM (KRtlO)

171 Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 12, 2025 03:51 PM (iFTx/)

How are they making money from these College events? Good Security is not cheap... especially when the Campus Cops won't help.

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 12, 2025 03:55 PM (mP0Kj)

172 I see the primary "everyone does this" argument the left has is the guy in MN who killed a moderate Dem State Senator.

Who worked for Tim Walz, and apparently claimed Walz told him to do it.

Now my understanding is the guy appears to be cray-cray but the argument here is that leftwingers killing conservatives is ok because the same segment of people also kill moderate Democrats?

Posted by: 18-1 at September 12, 2025 03:56 PM (sKqQm)

173
Iirc, she has done nudes.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at September 12, 2025 03:50 PM (zZu0s)



So she has.....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 12, 2025 03:56 PM (Zz0t1)

174 >>>Hammer for decolletatge.

no full hoot. It was the 80s baby.

Posted by: ace at September 12, 2025 03:56 PM (KRtlO)

175 Why do the people we have gone to war with want to go to war??? What's wrong with them???

Posted by: ... at September 12, 2025 03:56 PM (3rt5k)

176 oh, hammer house of horror is on Amazon prime. I watched it because I wanted to watch Night Gallery but they don't have that.
Posted by: ace at September 12, 2025 03:52 PM (KRtlO)

======

I have decided to, at some point soon, watch all of the Hammer movies.

163 of them.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 12, 2025 03:53 PM (GBKbO)
____

Did you include the "Hammer His Ass" gay porn series? Paul Pelosi was a fan.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 12, 2025 03:56 PM (iFTx/)

177 James Li@5149jamesli

RETRACTION: It was not Israel that killed Charlie Kirk.

Per the FBI, it was a lone gunman who planted two patsies in the crowd, then shot Kirk, disassembled his rifle, executed a perfect escape, reassembled it in the woods, then turned himself in.

No more questions please.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at September 12, 2025 03:56 PM (TGPs7)

178 Since Ben Shapiro's been mentioned, the Style Guide mandates that I must now note that his sister has enormous boobs.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Posted by: Bulg at September 12, 2025 03:56 PM (77rzZ)

179 161 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 12, 2025 03:50 PM (GBKbO)

where did he say that ?
Posted by: runner at September 12, 2025 03:54 PM (g47mK)

========

Looking more, it seems like no one knows where it comes from. It's attributed to him, but Google says it's incorrectly attributed to him.

Maybe it is an anonymous quote from a warrior of the Chickamauga Nation.

Good quote, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 12, 2025 03:56 PM (GBKbO)

180 Are you jacking your own thread, he asks, as he goes to open a search engine window.
Posted by: toby928 a


At least he's not jacking his blade.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 12, 2025 03:56 PM (abIsI)

181 IF - big, big if - the FBI doesn't bury the investigation into the accomplice(s), and one or more can be charged, then no more bullshit. Declare Antifa a terrorist organization, and from that point forward, anyone caught in Antifa activity OF ANY KIND gets locked away. Build a prison camp for them in the desert.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 12, 2025 03:56 PM (tiz7t)

182 All hooters are nice hooters.


from ripe strawberries to silver dollar pancakes..

Posted by: toby928 at September 12, 2025 03:57 PM (jc0TO)

183 142 @TimHannan
1 guy acted alone and they want to go to war? It's like they just were looking for any reason.
---
Let's not tell anyone that we have our statements and press releases cued up to call for blanket gun confiscation immediately after the next school shooting, m'kay?
Posted by: Democrats at September 12, 2025 03:52 PM (0sNs1)

No idea who Tim Hannan is. Did he write that on June 29, 1914?

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2025 03:57 PM (lYQnC)

184 “I want an $800,000 refund,” said John Morgan, a Florida-based personal injury lawyer. He was referring to the nearly $1 million he said he raised for Biden that went to then-Vice President Kamala Harris
......

A fool and his money have been parted.

Posted by: wth at September 12, 2025 03:57 PM (v0R5T)

185 166 Its ludicrous that the Right would call Dems communists! Btw, don't forget to vote for Mamdani who will have government run grocery stores!!
Posted by: Botched_Lobotomy at September 12, 2025 03:55 PM (utoSg)

Mandani, proof that all those signs in New Yawk about NEVER FORGET... have been... forgotten.

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 12, 2025 03:57 PM (mP0Kj)

186 oh wait, her name is Patricia Quinn.

Posted by: ace at September 12, 2025 03:57 PM (KRtlO)

187 Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 12, 2025 03:51 PM (iFTx/)

How are they making money from these College events? Good Security is not cheap... especially when the Campus Cops won't help.
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 12, 2025 03:55 PM (mP0Kj)
_______

Yea, but my comment specifically referred to volunteers, as in guys willing to help for free

Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 12, 2025 03:57 PM (iFTx/)

188 Plexiglass panels. Bullet proof exisits.

Posted by: Sports Illustrated PR team at September 12, 2025 03:57 PM (s9EN2)

189 "The moment the men who wanted to be left alone are forced to fight back, it is a form of suicide. They are literally killing off who they used to be. Which is why, when forced to take up violence, these men who wanted to be left alone, fight with unholy vengeance against those who murdered their former lives. They fight with raw hate, and a drive that cannot be fathomed by those who are merely play-acting at politics and terror. TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream and beg for mercy… but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the men who just wanted to be left alone."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 12, 2025 03:50 PM (GBKbO)

That pretty much was US policy up until WWII ended. Mexican War? Border skirmishing leads to an unprecedented march to the capital and capture. Civil War when to the point of complete capture. Spanish American War - Spain stripped of her colonies.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 12, 2025 03:58 PM (8avO+)

190 184 “I want an $800,000 refund,” said John Morgan, a Florida-based personal injury lawyer. He was referring to the nearly $1 million he said he raised for Biden that went to then-Vice President Kamala Harris
......

A fool and his money have been parted.
Posted by: wth at September 12, 2025 03:57 PM (v0R5T)

So... 20% for the Big Guy?

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 12, 2025 03:58 PM (mP0Kj)

191 actually you see only one full hooter but you see it twice. the first time mostly sidal boobage. Later they give you the front-on shot.

Posted by: ace at September 12, 2025 03:58 PM (KRtlO)

192 Tom Hannan, we're now post "long train of abuses."

Your side declared war long ago.

We are now telling you war works both way.

Admit it, you are too used to being able to say whatever you want about conservatives without consequence.

We're now saying, "No."

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 12, 2025 03:58 PM (tT6L1)

193 1 guy acted alone and they want to go to war? It's like they just were looking for any reason.

I guess the two times they tried to assassinate Trump don't count? Or the attempt to kill Kav? Or the attempt to kill Paul? Or the attempt to kill the Republican House baseball team?

Posted by: 18-1 at September 12, 2025 03:58 PM (sKqQm)

194 Have Fox on just to see if any news
Ice officer severely injured during a traffic stop, dragged by car driven by Illegal

Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2025 03:59 PM (+qU29)

195 153 Dude, her n00ds are already on the internet for some time.
Posted by: cheshirecat at September 12, 2025 03:54 PM (TwA+r)

Are they truly n00ds if she's still wearing the wig?

(And yes, Sh0e's hair is a wig, she's got some weird condition that makes her tear her real hair out and eat it)

Posted by: XTC at September 12, 2025 03:59 PM (UnA8+)

196 I think his security was adequate for the perceived threat, some lefty rushing the stage. Maybe even pulling a handgun out. Not many people have security that can secure against a sniper.

Posted by: steevy at September 12, 2025 03:59 PM (YwEeS)

197 Looking more, it seems like no one knows where it comes from. It's attributed to him, but Google says it's incorrectly attributed to him.

Maybe it is an anonymous quote from a warrior of the Chickamauga Nation.

Good quote, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 12, 2025 03:56 PM (GBKbO)

Ok, chief

Posted by: runner at September 12, 2025 03:59 PM (g47mK)

198 Kav?

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 12, 2025 04:00 PM (4L9nF)

199 Dave Smith
Thoughts on Charlie Kirk

It's nice.

https://partoftheproblem.com/watch/1449

Posted by: m at September 12, 2025 04:00 PM (aURVT)

200 I guess the two times they tried to assassinate Trump don't count? Or the attempt to kill Kav? Or the attempt to kill Paul? Or the attempt to kill the Republican House baseball team?
Posted by: 18-1 at September 12, 2025 03:58 PM (sKqQm)
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History always starts tomorrow for the left.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 12, 2025 04:00 PM (tT6L1)

201 Not many people have security that can secure against a sniper.

Hell apparently the SS can't handle it

Posted by: 18-1 at September 12, 2025 04:00 PM (sKqQm)

202 IF - big, big if - the FBI doesn't bury the investigation into the accomplice(s), and one or more can be charged, then no more bullshit. Declare Antifa a terrorist organization, and from that point forward, anyone caught in Antifa activity OF ANY KIND gets locked away. Build a prison camp for them in the desert.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 12, 2025 03:56 PM (tiz7t)

The Trumps aren't gonna let this slide, no matter what the FBI wants. He will tear it apart if they try.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 12, 2025 04:00 PM (8avO+)

203 Cernovich@Cernovich

If the murderer's family hadn't turned him in, the FBI would have killed the shooter and then covered up all connections to far left wing violence.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at September 12, 2025 03:54 PM (TGPs7)

No no no! It's different now, those are OUR jackbooted thugs, covering up inconvenient crimes.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2025 04:00 PM (lYQnC)

204 Nick Sortor@nicksortor

BREAKING: Police have EVACUATED the area around the Charlie Kirk kiIIer's home after receiving "concerning information," per Fox

It's unclear what that information is related to.

Further threats of vioIence from the left would not be a surprise to anyone.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at September 12, 2025 04:00 PM (TGPs7)

205 oh wait, her name is Patricia Quinn.

Posted by: ace at September 12, 2025 03:57 PM (KRtlO)

I was going to say Patricia Neal was an actress from the 50's and 60's.

Posted by: dantesed at September 12, 2025 04:00 PM (Oy/m2)

206 Not many people have security that can secure against a sniper.

Hell apparently the SS can't handle it
Posted by: 18-1 at September 12, 2025 04:00 PM (sKqQm)

yeah, they missed Trump.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 12, 2025 04:00 PM (8avO+)

207 I was saying back in 2009 or so that if they could, they would have us in death camps and the GOP commentariat and officials would sit back and justify it.

I think you can see now the death camp guards are here and ready to make it happen given one little bitty chance.

Posted by: ... at September 12, 2025 04:00 PM (3rt5k)

208 201 Not many people have security that can secure against a sniper.


I can buy an pretty good drone for $200.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 12, 2025 04:01 PM (abIsI)

209 She was a self-proclaimed Bernie-girl, then she married a Conservative catholic, had a baby, and finally woke up.

Posted by: cheshirecat at September 12, 2025 03:55 PM (TwA+r)

From the last several videos I've seen from her, she really can't stand the modern left.

She's got a wicked sense of humor, though, or I wouldn't bother watching her.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 12, 2025 04:01 PM (6ydKt)

210 Pray it never happens, but if the left encourages it then be ready. Be making a list, checking it twice, know who's been naughty, know who's not not nice, pew pew. Buy ammo.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at September 12, 2025 04:01 PM (gm9Sb)

211 Glenn, no one on the right murdered someone for free speech. Kindly fuck off with our "but both sides!" argument.

Posted by: NR Pax at September 12, 2025 04:01 PM (7xrfc)

212 195 153 Dude, her n00ds are already on the internet for some time.
Posted by: cheshirecat at September 12, 2025 03:54 PM (TwA+r)

Are they truly n00ds if she's still wearing the wig?

(And yes, Sh0e's hair is a wig, she's got some weird condition that makes her tear her real hair out and eat it)

Posted by: XTC at September 12, 2025 03:59 PM (UnA8+)

Trichophagia?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 12, 2025 04:01 PM (ynpvh)

213
If the murderer's family hadn't turned him in, the FBI would have killed the shooter and then covered up all connections to far left wing violence. /i]

The FNM line on the first would be Trump assassin was that he was a rightwinger, even MAGA.

And since "someone" had scrubbed his social media it was hard to argue specifics...until the Gab guys released Crooks's postings...

Posted by: 18-1 at September 12, 2025 04:01 PM (sKqQm)

214 Yea, but my comment specifically referred to volunteers, as in guys willing to help for free
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 12, 2025 03:57 PM (iFTx/)

Without some type of Nationwide network... funded by... someone, the movement from City to City makes that almost impossible.

Hell... Butler showed us that even the Fed Gov has problems with Logistics for Security teams.

Oh, and if some type of Right Wing Volunteer Security Teams were set up? The FBI would be all over them immediately.

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 12, 2025 04:01 PM (mP0Kj)

215 Nick Sortor@nicksortor

BREAKING: Police have EVACUATED the area around the Charlie Kirk kiIIer's home after receiving "concerning information," per Fox

It's unclear what that information is related to.

Further threats of vioIence from the left would not be a surprise to anyone.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at September 12, 2025 04:00 PM (TGPs7)

destruction of evidence by the left is more likely.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 12, 2025 04:02 PM (8avO+)

216 ">I don't know them but I imagine we have a few. There would be still more if we praised and valorized and hero-ized assassins like the left does.
Posted by: ace at September 12, 2025 03:48 PM (KRtlO)"

Tens of thousands with the ability and motivation. As a whole they are holding off, and we are holding off celebrating them, only on the thought Trump might right the ship.

No Trump, or a return to Obama/Biden era abuses, and that's that.

Posted by: heya at September 12, 2025 04:02 PM (gzBW8)

217
Speaking of Hammer House british crap TV...

I want You People to read this comment in the voice of Terry Thomas:

I dated a flute player for a while who wouldn't go down because her flute teacher said it would ruin her embouchure. Of course her flute teacher was a woman.

Man she was a tiger otherwise.
Posted by: pawn

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 12, 2025 04:02 PM (O7j1V)

218 Posted by: Botched_Lobotomy
.....

lol
One of my favorite nics.

Posted by: wth at September 12, 2025 04:02 PM (v0R5T)

219 Both Sides, REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!

No. That won't work anymore.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at September 12, 2025 04:02 PM (sAmhv)

220 Greem Grenemeld

Posted by: Josephistan at September 12, 2025 04:02 PM (y9ksN)

221 Shoe:
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one guy acted alone. then we saw the reaction of millions. some posting with their full names and faces. teachers, childcare workers, healthcare workers, hr professionals, game developers. hundreds of thousands of people that walk amongst every day, who live next door to us, people i thought were friends, people i thought were normal people celebrating the gruesome public execution of a father shot in the fucking throat in front of his young children, celebrating because he politically does not agree with them. we saw their real beliefs when the " in this house believe" shitlib mask was ripped off. sociopathic freaks.
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Talk to Evan Sayett about 9/11. Or read him--or watch him.

This is not new for the left.

Posted by: Axeman, Patience IS a Virtue at September 12, 2025 04:02 PM (krQz2)

222 Plexiglass panels. Bullet proof exisits.
Posted by: Sports Illustrated PR team at September 12, 2025 03:57 PM (s9EN2)

It's ultimately the speaker's call. Maybe he thought rolling around in a little lexan Kirkmobile everywhere he went would blunt his message of approach and community, and make him look like a douche. Maybe he weighed the risks with his family and decided plein aire was the way to go. Who knows.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 12, 2025 04:02 PM (06Hmj)

223 The Trumps aren't gonna let this slide, no matter what the FBI wants. He will tear it apart if they try.
Posted by: Oldcat at September 12, 2025 04:00 PM (8avO+)

I really do want to believe Kash and Dan and Pam are working on changing that organization.

Because this is their last chance. There won't be another "maybe we can save the good parts" option for the feds.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2025 04:02 PM (lYQnC)

224 Wow, Ace turns his own thread into a boob thread. Awesome!

You'd never see CBD doing that.

Posted by: Bulg at September 12, 2025 04:02 PM (77rzZ)

225 217
Speaking of Hammer House british crap TV...

I want You People to read this comment in the voice of Terry Thomas:

I dated a flute player for a while who wouldn't go down because her flute teacher said it would ruin her embouchure. Of course her flute teacher was a woman.

Man she was a tiger otherwise.
Posted by: pawn
Posted by: Soothsayer at September 12, 2025 04:02 PM (O7j1V)

========

I read it in Christopher Lee's voice.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 12, 2025 04:02 PM (GBKbO)

226 Yes. It is not one man.
Dozens. Maybe even hundreds did this.

Those talking heads in the mass media calling for confrontation or outright violence against who they see as the political enemy are their leaders and their generals.

These could journ-o-list spreading propaganda, or politicians who set the agenda. They are the assassin's hands

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 12, 2025 04:02 PM (/lPRQ)

227 I think his security was adequate for the perceived threat, some lefty rushing the stage. Maybe even pulling a handgun out. Not many people have security that can secure against a sniper.
Posted by: steevy at September 12, 2025 03:59 PM (YwEeS)
__

Yea, but this scumbag was on an obvious roof for a sniper. He would have been clearly visible to anyone paying any attention. Nobody seemed to bother watching the roofs. After Butler, we're not checking roofs?

Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 12, 2025 04:03 PM (iFTx/)

228 Maybe as the FBI is investigating his ties they might stumble upon the motive of the Las Vegas shooter, Trump shooters #1 and 2, and possibly discover the damning Epstein evidence that was thought destroyed by the FBI.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 12, 2025 04:03 PM (abIsI)

229 The real alternative is a real Civil War. Do we really want that, with the street littered with the dead? Maybe you and me and others?
Posted by: Pepperidge Farms

No one sane wants war. Of course we don’t. But we also cannot sit back and absorb the lunacy and live by their rules as an all out effort to avoid it. That has gotten us to a place where people are dancing in blood and thinking it is absolute okay and normal to do. We need to pray this is a turning of minds. We don’t have to “other” the left to call them out. We can call them out and still pray for their souls. We can call them out and not have it be violent.

Posted by: Piper at September 12, 2025 04:03 PM (pZEOD)

230 Oh, and if some type of Right Wing Volunteer Security Teams were set up? The FBI would be all over them immediately.
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 12, 2025 04:01 PM (mP0Kj)

They should run them. Put half a dozen even vaguely vetted people on every rooftop and the sniper threat is zero. Pay them in pizza.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 12, 2025 04:03 PM (8avO+)

231 Both Sides, REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!

No. That won't work anymore.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at September 12, 2025 04:02 PM (sAmhv)
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Point to somebody like Madcow to show that "it happens on both sides".

Posted by: Axeman, Patience IS a Virtue at September 12, 2025 04:03 PM (krQz2)

232 destruction of evidence by the left is more likely.
Posted by: Oldcat at September 12, 2025 04:02 PM (8avO+)

Bombs or bodies, I'm guessing.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 12, 2025 04:03 PM (06Hmj)

233 On 9/11 I knew many who were shocked by how much Islam hates us. I wasn’t, because I’d been paying attention for a while.

During the Summer Of Love I knew many who were shocked by how much militant blacks hate us. I wasn’t because I’d been paying attention for a while.

And now we see so many shocked by how much the rabid left hates us. Those of us who’ve been paying attention can only say “welcome to the party, pal!”

Posted by: weew at September 12, 2025 04:04 PM (sA2OM)

234 Maybe the Biden Presidential Bookmobile will have copies of Ashley's diary.

"Dear Diary: Turned 13 today. Showered with dad again. He calls me his Little Cumdumpster!"

Posted by: On A Darker Note at September 12, 2025 04:04 PM (qUkBO)

235 Man she was a tiger otherwise.
Posted by: pawn

Don't you mean "tigress?" Or was she transing?

Posted by: Bulg at September 12, 2025 04:04 PM (77rzZ)

236 Maybe just me, but I think the left doth protest too much. They're a vocal bunch who can't resist taunting, bitching or complaining.

There's a (small) chance to head off a hot civil war and I'm not sure they're capable of realizing when to shut their fucking mouths.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 12, 2025 04:04 PM (Q4IgG)

237 Posted by: dantesed at September 12, 2025 04:00 PM (Oy/m2)

And played John Boy's mother in The Waltons. Not being a Moron I would rather see that Patricia Neal than some actress with a similar name who was in Rocky Horror showing her boobs.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 12, 2025 04:04 PM (afKoR)

238 225 Boris Karloff

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at September 12, 2025 04:04 PM (gm9Sb)

239 Assuming the FBI really does have the right assassin, the next most important item is revealing who the assassin was working with, and if he was receiving any funding.

All of his social media/emails/texts need to be reviewed and anyone that gave material support identified AND ARRESTED.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 12, 2025 04:04 PM (sKqQm)

240 238 225 Boris Karloff
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at September 12, 2025 04:04 PM (gm9Sb)

=======

Friend.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 12, 2025 04:05 PM (GBKbO)

241 The real alternative is a real Civil War. Do we really want that, with the street littered with the dead? Maybe you and me and others?
Posted by: Pepperidge Farms

we already have that. In Utah, and NC, and NYC...

Evil triumphs if good men do nothing.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 12, 2025 04:05 PM (8avO+)

242
You'd never see CBD doing that.
Posted by: Bulg at September 12, 2025 04:02 PM (77rzZ)



Except for when he puts a nude on the Art Thread.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 12, 2025 04:05 PM (Zz0t1)

243 Declare Antifa a terrorist organization, and from that point forward, anyone caught in Antifa activity OF ANY KIND gets locked away. Build a prison camp for them in the desert.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 12, 2025 03:56 PM (tiz7t)

AntiFa is also all over the EU, so name them an INTERNATIONAL Terrorist Organization, vice a Domestic one... the post 9-11 Laws open up a whole new can of Whup Ass on International Terrorists.

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 12, 2025 04:05 PM (mP0Kj)

244 BREAKING: Police have EVACUATED the area around the Charlie Kirk kiIIer's home after receiving "concerning information," per Fox
......

Trantifa threats for giving up their boi ?

Posted by: wth at September 12, 2025 04:05 PM (v0R5T)

245 224 Wow, Ace turns his own thread into a boob thread. Awesome!

You'd never see CBD doing that.

Posted by: Bulg at September 12, 2025 04:02 PM (77rzZ)

At least his art lately hasn't involved fat men or ottomans...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 12, 2025 04:05 PM (ynpvh)

246 Yea, but my comment specifically referred to volunteers, as in guys willing to help for free
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 12, 2025 03:57 PM (iFTx/)

Without some type of Nationwide network... funded by... someone, the movement from City to City makes that almost impossible.

Hell... Butler showed us that even the Fed Gov has problems with Logistics for Security teams.

Oh, and if some type of Right Wing Volunteer Security Teams were set up? The FBI would be all over them immediately.
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 12, 2025 04:01 PM (mP0Kj)
___

I dunno. I race cars and there are races all across the country. We have no problem getting dozens of volunteers -- mostly locals -- to help at the race. They aren't paid. They do it because they are car and race enthusiasts.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 12, 2025 04:05 PM (iFTx/)

247 "Hell... Butler showed us that even the Fed Gov has problems with Logistics for Security teams."

Fuck.

Posted by: Sports Illustrated PR team at September 12, 2025 04:05 PM (s9EN2)

248 Nick Sortor@nicksortor

BREAKING: Police have EVACUATED the area around the Charlie Kirk kiIIer's home after receiving "concerning information," per Fox

It's unclear what that information is related to.

Further threats of vioIence from the left would not be a surprise to anyone.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at September 12, 2025 04:00 PM (TGPs7)

destruction of evidence by the left is more likely.
Posted by: Oldcat at September 12, 2025 04:02 PM (8avO+)

You know who else is really good at destroying evidence?

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2025 04:05 PM (lYQnC)

249 Little know fact:
Charlie Kirk’s father was an architect whose firm designed the Trump Tower in New York City.

Posted by: SMOD at September 12, 2025 04:06 PM (tTLgd)

250 12 You leave Glenn alone! He's written a New York Times bestselling book on executive authority, broken a story on my blog about wiretapping that led to front-page stories on most major newspapers in the country, and Russ Feingold read from my blog during the Censure hearings. I mean, his.
Posted by: Rick Ellensburg at September 12, 2025 03:36 PM (gKWVE)

********

Heh. Somebody is a longtime reader of this blog.

Haven’t seen the name of Rick Ellensburg in a *looong* time.

Posted by: EFG at September 12, 2025 04:06 PM (3NkDy)

251 Wow, Ace turns his own thread into a boob thread. Awesome!

You'd never see CBD doing that.
Posted by: Bulg at September 12, 2025 04:02 PM (77rzZ)
---
*** Art Thread has entered the chat. ***

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 12, 2025 04:06 PM (7fElN)

252 And played John Boy's mother in The Waltons. Not being a Moron I would rather see that Patricia Neal than some actress with a similar name who was in Rocky Horror showing her boobs.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

That was in the pilot. I thought that Michael Learned, who played her in the series, was quite pretty.

Posted by: Bulg at September 12, 2025 04:06 PM (77rzZ)

253 "The Trumps aren't gonna let this slide, no matter what the FBI wants. He will tear it apart if they try.
Posted by: Oldcat at September 12, 2025 04:00 PM (8avO+)"

2016 Trump would let it slide, and did, whether via failing to lead or a deliberate choice for unity. Vegas, plus several school shootings with unfollowed leads on conspirators showed that.

2025 Trump, we are about to find out. If he let's this taper off and go nowhere we are done.

Posted by: heya at September 12, 2025 04:06 PM (gzBW8)

254 The gaslighting from the Left of you made me do this or really it's your side that did it is an always and forever thing. They follow the script every time.

They'll be back to calling us fascists by next week in the MSM.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 12, 2025 04:06 PM (rvwwT)

255 Talk to Evan Sayett about 9/11. Or read him--or watch him.

This is not new for the left.
Posted by: Axeman, Patience IS a Virtue at September 12, 2025 04:02 PM (krQz2)

True. "Chickens coming home to roost" ring a bell? This was not just a sentiment held by Jeremiah Wright either. Plenty among the left were, if not overtly celebrating, saying we had it coming.

Posted by: Same song different lyrics at September 12, 2025 04:06 PM (TbWk/)

256 This guy's story , background, affiliations all better not go down the rabbit hole like most every past mass Murderers have

Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2025 04:07 PM (+qU29)

257 BREAKING: Police have EVACUATED the area around the Charlie Kirk kiIIer's home after receiving "concerning information," per Fox


Rigged with boom booms?

Posted by: ... at September 12, 2025 04:07 PM (3rt5k)

258 Posted by: Bulg at September 12, 2025 04:06 PM (77rzZ

Yes, you are correct.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 12, 2025 04:07 PM (afKoR)

259 From all walks of life. Don't know this person but not what I would have expected

https://tinyurl.com/e5p3vdvd

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 12, 2025 04:07 PM (kUxzU)

260 BREAKING: Police have EVACUATED the area around the Charlie Kirk kiIIer's home after receiving "concerning information," per Fox

It's unclear what that information is related to.

Further threats of vioIence from the left would not be a surprise to anyone.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at September 12, 2025 04:00 PM (TGPs7)
---
The father forced the New Luigi to turn himself in. Therefore the father is an arguable target.

Especially as he's involved in systemic racist cop shooting black men dead for sport type activities. (Proving why systemically racists cops who shoot blacks for sport should be the only ones to carry guns in a "common sense" gun control world.)

Posted by: Axeman, Patience IS a Virtue at September 12, 2025 04:07 PM (krQz2)

261 That was in the pilot. I thought that Michael Learned, who played her in the series, was quite pretty.
Posted by: Bulg at September 12, 2025 04:06 PM (77rzZ)

She is quite pretty and I thought she was a wonderful actress, too.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at September 12, 2025 04:07 PM (k9OZB)

262
Well, put, Ace.

But it makes me very sad.

I don't whether to fear or to hope.

Posted by: Bach In Black at September 12, 2025 04:08 PM (KY9hS)

263 You know who else is really good at destroying evidence?
Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2025 04:05 PM (lYQnC)

Hitler.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 12, 2025 04:08 PM (8avO+)

264 I have decided to, at some point soon, watch all of the Hammer movies.

163 of them.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 12, 2025 03:53 PM


* weeps *

You *promised* you were going to watch all of mine!

Posted by: Alan Smithee at September 12, 2025 04:08 PM (0sNs1)

265 "241 The real alternative is a real Civil War. Do we really want that, with the street littered with the dead? Maybe you and me and others?
Posted by: Pepperidge Farms

we already have that. In Utah, and NC, and NYC...

Evil triumphs if good men do nothing.
Posted by: Oldcat at September 12, 2025 04:05 PM (8avO+)"

The Dems would keep on until it got to what we see in the UK.

In the UK, it is LONG past time to kick it off.

Posted by: heya at September 12, 2025 04:08 PM (gzBW8)

266 Hell... Butler showed us that even the Fed Gov has problems with Logistics for Security teams.

Oh, and if some type of Right Wing Volunteer Security Teams were set up? The FBI would be all over them immediately.
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 12, 2025 04:01 PM (mP0Kj)

Well, there is a difference between can't and won't.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2025 04:08 PM (lYQnC)

267 Except for when he puts a nude on the Art Thread.
Posted by: Sponge

Point taken. But art-boob threads are boob threads from the get-go. But CBD would never take a non-boob-themed Art Thread and consciously change it into a boob thread.

Posted by: Bulg at September 12, 2025 04:08 PM (77rzZ)

268 263 You know who else is really good at destroying evidence?
Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2025 04:05 PM (lYQnC)

Hitler.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 12, 2025 04:08 PM (8avO+)

Well, she could be at times.

Posted by: BJ Billy Clinton at September 12, 2025 04:09 PM (ynpvh)

269 >>> 229
==
No one sane wants war. Of course we don't. But we also cannot sit back and absorb the lunacy and live by their rules as an all out effort to avoid it.
==
Posted by: Piper at September 12, 2025 04:03 PM (pZEOD)

It only takes one side to start a war. When someone murders a rando for having wrongbadthoughts and thousands if not millions cheer for more, it's getting really fcking close.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 12, 2025 04:09 PM (ULPxl)

270
Evacuation?

Yeah, probably another hoax swatting by a Democrat -- so the Fake News can fake "report" that a "Charlie Kirk supporter" was making "death threats."

Fuck these people. Hard.

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 12, 2025 04:09 PM (O7j1V)

271 The father forced the New Luigi to turn himself in. Therefore the father is an arguable target.

I suspect all of the semi-sane leftist leadership are telling there people to not go down this route but a lot of their line-level thugs have problems with not acting out of emotion

Posted by: 18-1 at September 12, 2025 04:09 PM (sKqQm)

272 259 From all walks of life. Don't know this person but not what I would have expected

https://tinyurl.com/e5p3vdvd
Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 12, 2025 04:07 PM (kUxzU)

Page does not exist

Posted by: Just telling you what x is telling me at September 12, 2025 04:09 PM (TbWk/)

273 Don't want to give them a click but The Nation had an article up about how awful a Charlie Kirk was on the morning of his death. They didn't bother trying to memory hole it because internet but they changed the title.

Posted by: ... at September 12, 2025 04:10 PM (3rt5k)

274 257 BREAKING: Police have EVACUATED the area around the Charlie Kirk kiIIer's home after receiving "concerning information," per Fox


Rigged with boom booms?
Posted by: ... at September 12, 2025 04:07 PM (3rt5k)

Just the threat is enough.

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 12, 2025 04:10 PM (mP0Kj)

275 You know who else is really good at destroying evidence?
Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2025 04:05 PM (lYQnC)

Hitler.
Posted by: Oldcat at September 12, 2025 04:08 PM (8avO+)

Surprisingly, no. The nazzies were very meticulous about keeping records, and didn't put that much effort into getting rid of them.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2025 04:10 PM (lYQnC)

276 2025 Trump, we are about to find out. If he let's this taper off and go nowhere we are done.
Posted by: heya at September 12, 2025 04:06 PM (gzBW

Trump adopted Charlie into his family on his first announcement. He doesn't go back on that.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 12, 2025 04:10 PM (8avO+)

277 263 You know who else is really good at destroying evidence?
Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2025 04:05 PM (lYQnC)

OJ?

Well, other than the glove.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 12, 2025 04:10 PM (6ydKt)

278 272 259 From all walks of life. Don't know this person but not what I would have expected

https://tinyurl.com/e5p3vdvd
Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 12, 2025 04:07 PM (kUxzU)

Page does not exist

Posted by: Just telling you what x is telling me at September 12, 2025 04:09 PM (TbWk/)

Yeah, those links seem to get 404'd quickly.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 12, 2025 04:10 PM (ynpvh)

279 Talk to Evan Sayett about 9/11. Or read him--or watch him.

This is not new for the left.
Posted by: Axeman, Patience IS a Virtue at September 12, 2025 04:02 PM (krQz2)

True. "Chickens coming home to roost" ring a bell? This was not just a sentiment held by Jeremiah Wright either. Plenty among the left were, if not overtly celebrating, saying we had it coming.

Posted by: Same song different lyrics at September 12, 2025 04:06 PM (TbWk/)
---
9/10/2001 Sayett claims he was a solid "liberal".
9/11/2001 He couldn't believe his ears.

Posted by: Axeman, Patience IS a Virtue at September 12, 2025 04:10 PM (krQz2)

280 Sorry murder

Posted by: ... at September 12, 2025 04:10 PM (3rt5k)

281 My oddball Hammer pick, Captain Kronos:Vampire Slayer. A great idea executed rather poorly but it has its charms.
Posted by: steevy at September 12, 2025

Caroline Munro was quite charming

Posted by: Josephistan at September 12, 2025 04:10 PM (y9ksN)

282 All sales of alcohol, cigarettes, and coffee are banned in Utah until this madness ends.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at September 12, 2025 04:10 PM (gm9Sb)

283 Oh, and if some type of Right Wing Volunteer Security Teams were set up? The FBI would be all over them immediately.

Remember the FBI, with full support from the GOPe, shut down right leaning militias back in the 90s who had done nothing...

Meanwhile if I am understanding the left, having the federal government arrest actual murderers in blue cities is a civil rights violation.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 12, 2025 04:11 PM (sKqQm)

284 Another very pretty TV mom was Ma Ingalls on Little House on the Prairie. Karen Grassley.

Posted by: Bulg at September 12, 2025 04:11 PM (77rzZ)

285 271 The father forced the New Luigi to turn himself in. Therefore the father is an arguable target.

I suspect all of the semi-sane leftist leadership are telling there people to not go down this route but a lot of their line-level thugs have problems with not acting out of emotion
Posted by: 18-1 at September 12, 2025 04:09 PM (sKqQm)

========

Leadership are figureheads doing what donors want.

Donors want blood.

It's the smarter low level guys who are looking on in horror at what's becoming of their party and movement.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 12, 2025 04:11 PM (GBKbO)

286 More bombs without trigger mechanisms?

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 12, 2025 04:11 PM (4L9nF)

287 The Violent Men, (1955), great movie

"I'll fight for the privilege of being left alone"
"Don't force me to fight because you won't like my way of fighting"
"Never meet an enemy on his terms"

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 12, 2025 04:11 PM (NwfFc)

288 some actress with a similar name who was in Rocky Horror showing her boobs.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 12, 2025 04:04 PM


This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: Susan Sarandon at September 12, 2025 04:11 PM (0sNs1)

289 275 You know who else is really good at destroying evidence?
Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2025 04:05 PM (lYQnC)

Hitler.
Posted by: Oldcat at September 12, 2025 04:08 PM (8avO+)

Surprisingly, no. The nazzies were very meticulous about keeping records, and didn't put that much effort into getting rid of them.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2025 04:10 PM (lYQnC)

Well, that's because they expected to win.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 12, 2025 04:11 PM (ynpvh)

290 Trump Asked About Dealing with ‘Right Wing Radicals,’ Responds ‘The Radicals on the Left are the Problem’

This was on Fox and Friends. Why anyone still watches Fox News is beyond my understanding.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 12, 2025 04:11 PM (abIsI)

291 From all walks of life. Don't know this person but not what I would have expected

https://tinyurl.com/e5p3vdvd

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 12, 2025 04:07 PM (kUxzU)

Page does not exist

Posted by: Just telling you what x is telling me at September 12, 2025 04:09 PM (TbWk/)
---
That motherfucker is not real?

Posted by: Axeman, Patience IS a Virtue at September 12, 2025 04:11 PM (krQz2)

292 Guys guys!, I was just looking up spelling for something and found a new word:

unbosom

intransitive verb
1. To confide (one's thoughts or feelings).
2. To relieve (oneself) of troublesome thoughts or feelings.
3. To reveal one's thoughts or feelings.
4. to make known, disclose (as information previously kept secret)
| ...unbosomed his fear of dying only to his closest friends..

I'm going to use this in an engineering report somewhere. Just watch me. I'll sneak it in somehow.

Posted by: banana Dream at September 12, 2025 04:12 PM (3uBP9)

293 I would add that to focus on killings misses the bigger issue of political violence.
For years we have seen from the Left:

Violent riots (blm, anti ICE, antifa) which includes vandalism, theft and arson

Violent harassment and attacks on non-progressives, such as Tesla dealership and car owners, SCOTUS justices and Congressmens’ homes

Swatting of conservative journalists , commentators, Congressmen, etc.

The body count ignores the overwhelming trend: it has been a violent war waged from one side for over a decade and normies have had ENOUGH!!

No little chart showing tit for tat will hide what’s been happening, nor sway people who’ve now seen that the Left wants them dead.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 12, 2025 04:12 PM (Hkcdp)

294 The Dems would keep on until it got to what we see in the UK.

In the UK, it is LONG past time to kick it off.
Posted by: heya at September 12, 2025 04:08 PM (gzBW

Looks like the true Englishmen are close to toppling Starmer.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 12, 2025 04:12 PM (8avO+)

295 283 Meanwhile if I am understanding the left, having the federal government arrest actual murderers in blue cities is a civil rights violation.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 12, 2025 04:11 PM (sKqQm)

========

Best news today was that Trump is going to send the National Guard into both Memphis and New Orleans, with the blessings of both governors.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 12, 2025 04:12 PM (GBKbO)

296 284 Patty Henderson on Home Improvement

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at September 12, 2025 04:12 PM (gm9Sb)

297 Police have EVACUATED the area around the Charlie Kirk kiIIer's home after receiving "concerning information," per Fox

There might be evidence of the shooter's accomplices in the FBI - excuse me "informants" - which needs to be secured for the integrity of the coverup dammit, investigation.

Posted by: gKWVE at September 12, 2025 04:12 PM (gKWVE)

298 Ok, let's play devil's advocate.

Let's suppose a young man of leftist parents openly rebels and adopts rightwing beliefs. He gets deeply involved in far rightwing political beliefs over the internet.

As right leaning media and his new friends tell him to go assassinate members of the FNM he actually goes and kills David Muir in the middle of a news broadcast.

Now if this were to happen...how would the left react?!?
Posted by: 18-1


So you mean a Tuesday?

Posted by: rickb223 at September 12, 2025 04:12 PM (D3P9d)

299 Surprisingly, no. The nazzies were very meticulous about keeping records, and didn't put that much effort into getting rid of them.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2025 04:10 PM (lYQnC)

Well, that's because they expected to win.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 12, 2025 04:11 PM (ynpvh)

Obama, Hillary, Comey, Brennan and Clapper apparently had the same idea.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 12, 2025 04:13 PM (6ydKt)

300
Miranda Devine
@mirandadevine

This is exactly it. Exactly. They know exactly what they're unleashing. They will it.

Brenden Dilley
@WarlordDilley

We know EXACTLY how we got here.

Don't let them gaslight you into forgetting.

[Video mashup of recent Leftist "Leaders" calling for and stoking violence against the right in general and Trump in particular -- with scenes from "The Joker" interspersed]

https://is.gd/BKXiK7

Posted by: Shain -- The Transtifa Left Just Assassinated A Likely Future POTUS at September 12, 2025 04:13 PM (2Zkv5)

301 Unbosom Mastectomy.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 12, 2025 04:13 PM (4L9nF)

302 unbosom

intransitive verb
1. To confide (one's thoughts or feelings).
2. To relieve (oneself) of troublesome thoughts or feelings.
3. To reveal one's thoughts or feelings.
4. to make known, disclose (as information previously kept secret)
| ...unbosomed his fear of dying only to his closest friends..

I'm going to use this in an engineering report somewhere. Just watch me. I'll sneak it in somehow.
Posted by: banana Dream at September 12, 2025 04:12 PM (3uBP9)

close im imagery to 'getting this off my chest'

Posted by: Oldcat at September 12, 2025 04:13 PM (8avO+)

303 I read it in Christopher Lee's voice

I read everything in Peter Lorre's voice.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at September 12, 2025 04:13 PM (t8pEB)

304 It only takes one side to start a war. When someone murders a rando for having wrongbadthoughts and thousands if not millions cheer for more, it's getting really fcking close.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 12, 2025 04:09 PM (ULPxl)

Christopher Seider... 11 year old shot by British Troops during a peaceful protest... was a major reason for the later Protest that became the Boston Massacre (1770)

Which helped spark the US Revolution.

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 12, 2025 04:13 PM (mP0Kj)

305 PREACH, Ace!!!

Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at September 12, 2025 04:13 PM (ekM0A)

306 292 Guys guys!, I was just looking up spelling for something and found a new word:

unbosom

intransitive verb
1. To confide (one's thoughts or feelings).
2. To relieve (oneself) of troublesome thoughts or feelings.
3. To reveal one's thoughts or feelings.
4. to make known, disclose (as information previously kept secret)
| ...unbosomed his fear of dying only to his closest friends..

I'm going to use this in an engineering report somewhere. Just watch me. I'll sneak it in somehow.

Posted by: banana Dream at September 12, 2025 04:12 PM (3uBP9)

He unbosomed from reality...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 12, 2025 04:13 PM (ynpvh)

307
Are you older than Jack Lemmon (6 was in Grumpy Old Men?

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 12, 2025 04:14 PM (O7j1V)

308 Was expecting this from Greenwald. The whining in some quarters on the right or pansy "libertarians" about actions being taken against people protesting or supporting the Palestinian issue, and/or Israel is consistent with this. I could sorta see that. Not this. Not anymore.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at September 12, 2025 04:14 PM (MZ+PY)

309 68

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 12, 2025 04:14 PM (O7j1V)

310 All sales of alcohol, cigarettes, and coffee are banned in Utah until this madness ends.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door
......

All the Sister Wives are gonna go nuts.

Posted by: wth at September 12, 2025 04:14 PM (v0R5T)

311 There's blood in the water now.

These people want Trump dead soooo bad.

So far there have been absolutely no consequences for them acting out other than people being arrested.

It is an established fact in their minds that the killer will go down in history as a "Hero who saved us all".

Posted by: pawn at September 12, 2025 04:14 PM (PmITa)

312 303 I read everything in Peter Lorre's voice.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at September 12, 2025 04:13 PM (t8pEB)

=======

You know who else read everything in the voice of a German speaker?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 12, 2025 04:14 PM (GBKbO)

313 In this thread, ace unbosomed his deep appreciation of boobs.

Posted by: banana Dream at September 12, 2025 04:14 PM (3uBP9)

314 >>> 295

========

Best news today was that Trump is going to send the National Guard into both Memphis and New Orleans, with the blessings of both governors.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 12, 2025 04:12 PM (GBKbO)

Huh.

I know Wolfus A. is in Nawlins, but I am not aware of any commenters in Memphis or nearby.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 12, 2025 04:15 PM (ULPxl)

315 It only takes one side to start a war. When someone murders a rando for having wrongbadthoughts and thousands if not millions cheer for more, it's getting really fcking close.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket

Too close. But I don’t know their rank and file gets it. At all.

Posted by: Piper at September 12, 2025 04:15 PM (pZEOD)

316 But the right doesn't have a million plus crazy killer types with means to do those murders. Because "conservatives" don't think that way -- and the conservative's life has too much other meaning (church, family, career) to waste it becoming (in)famous by killing a political enemy.
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The men who founded this country found a way.

Posted by: Methos at September 12, 2025 04:15 PM (zLwRl)

317 285 Donors want blood.

It's the smarter low level guys who are looking on in horror at what's becoming of their party and movement.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 12, 2025 04:11 PM (GBKbO)

The Globalist Billionaires want to win while they're still alive, and the Long March of Progress has been too damned slow for them.

Posted by: XTC at September 12, 2025 04:15 PM (UnA8+)

318 >>>unbosom

outstanding word. I'll add it to a post I'm going to put up.

Posted by: ace at September 12, 2025 04:15 PM (KRtlO)

319 You know what the left's response would have been if Kirk survived?

Just as vile, wishing he hadn't.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 12, 2025 04:15 PM (NwfFc)

320 I'm going to use this in an engineering report somewhere. Just watch me. I'll sneak it in somehow.

Posted by: banana Dream at September 12, 2025 04:12 PM (3uBP9)
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"Cross member 27J, unbusomed of its support by struts 14R and 14S, suffered partial failure and sheared through the internal partition in that area...

Posted by: Oldcat at September 12, 2025 04:16 PM (8avO+)

321 That Hammer House of Horror episode Ace mentions is on YouTube too. Full episode ... "Witching Time".

Posted by: far cry at September 12, 2025 04:16 PM (p1G9Z)

322 You know what the left's response would have been if Kirk survived?

Just as vile, wishing he hadn't.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 12, 2025 04:15 PM (NwfFc)
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We know.

Posted by: July 13 2024 at September 12, 2025 04:16 PM (krQz2)

323 Well, that's because they expected to win.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 12, 2025 04:11 PM (ynpvh)

Yeah, something something thousand years.

Which turned out to be 12.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2025 04:16 PM (lYQnC)

324 Shoe0nhead has said in her videos that she's more of a libertarian, or used to be until they got so useless and crazy.

She seems to be lost in the wilderness at this point, just wandering around in disbelief at where her country, and the people in it, turned into.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 12, 2025 03:53 PM (6ydKt)

She's pretty solidly a Bernie bro, pretty far left on most policies, especially on the ones she seems to value most. But she's also willing to listen to people outside the leftist echo chamber and is pretty reasonable when discussing things that aren't highly political.

So it's a nice gesture from her, but of all lefty influencers she's probably the first person that you would expect to condemn violence. I very much doubt this moves the needle on her voting for the left.

Posted by: Sjg at September 12, 2025 04:16 PM (aqZN1)

325 One of my brothers mentioned the abortion clinic bombings. I looked it up. It was over 30 years ago.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at September 12, 2025 04:16 PM (ZmEVT)

326 A big problem with the left is the large number of them that have serious mental health issues. They don't reason and think like normal people because they can't.

Some on the left go along with the insanity because they want to be where the cool kidz are but far too many believe that men can turn into women and mutilating children is "gender affirming care". If they can't see the insanity of these positions why would we expect they can see murdering anyone who opposes their ideology as wrong?

Posted by: JackStraw at September 12, 2025 04:17 PM (viF8m)

327 The RINO governor of Utah thinks both sides need to be nicer to each other. Yeah well fuck off asshole. Kirk was about as nice as anyone can be.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at September 12, 2025 04:17 PM (AvVQO)

328 Underbosom

Posted by: wth at September 12, 2025 04:17 PM (v0R5T)

329 314 Huh.

I know Wolfus A. is in Nawlins, but I am not aware of any commenters in Memphis or nearby.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 12, 2025 04:15 PM (ULPxl)

=======

Memphis is one of the worst crime-ridden shitholes in the nation, and that it blots the reputation of a nice state like Tennessee (the state of my birth) is a disgrace upon the Republican Party that has controlled the state's politics for at least 25 years.

Cleaning it up by sending in the National Guard to help local law enforcement was something TN governors should have done decades ago, especially if it was done by a Republican governor in a manner that hurt Democrat power centers.

Help the people first. Help them by freeing them of street level crime and of city-level corruption.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 12, 2025 04:17 PM (GBKbO)

330 OJ?

Well, other than the glove.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 12, 2025 04:10 PM (6ydKt)

That was a Norm Weekend Update joke.

Something like, "When they introduced the glove in court, OJ cried out, hey, that's my glove, where did you find it?"

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2025 04:17 PM (lYQnC)

331 And then we can tell them which beliefs, specifically, justify murder to us.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison


Abortion.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 12, 2025 03:39 PM (D3P9d)

Murdering adults so they can continue to murder babies At least they're consistent.

Posted by: LAsue at September 12, 2025 04:18 PM (lCppi)

332 Sidebosum.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 12, 2025 04:18 PM (4L9nF)

333 Pope Pussy XIV hasn't yet said Charlie Kirk's name. Just pablum about coming together in dialogue.
But he's got a lot to say about Gaza and the migrants.

Posted by: gKWVE at September 12, 2025 04:18 PM (gKWVE)

334 The left: We have a right to punch NAZIs!

Also the left: And really, wouldn't you do more then just punch Hitler?

Also, also the left: Oh and anyone that opposes any part of our agenda are NAZIs

Also, also, also the left: Wow someone killed Charlie Kirk. I mean he was a NAZI and deserved it and all, but what responsibility do we have for that?

Posted by: 18-1 at September 12, 2025 04:18 PM (sKqQm)

335 But the right doesn't have a million plus crazy killer types with means to do those murders. Because "conservatives" don't think that way -- and the conservative's life has too much other meaning (church, family, career) to waste it becoming (in)famous by killing a political enemy.
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The men who founded this country found a way.
Posted by: Methos at September 12, 2025 04:15 PM (zLwRl)

Not crazy killers, but determined methodical killers who will tear out this poison root and branch. Even in WWII the Japanese soon found that the US troops, particularly Marines were better at it than they were.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 12, 2025 04:18 PM (8avO+)

336 I read it in Christopher Lee's voice

I read everything in Peter Lorre's voice.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at September 12, 2025 04:13 PM


I read everything in Gilbert Gottfried's voice.

Posted by: toby928 at September 12, 2025 04:18 PM (jc0TO)

337 319 You know what the left's response would have been if Kirk survived?

Just as vile, wishing he hadn't.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 12, 2025 04:15 PM (NwfFc)

Need better shots!

Posted by: Lunalefty at September 12, 2025 04:18 PM (/6GbT)

338 We are at war already. We (conservatives) just don't want to see it. It's called cognizant dissonance: when reality is too horrible to accept.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at September 12, 2025 04:19 PM (ZmEVT)

339 Let's suppose a young man of leftist parents openly rebels and adopts rightwing beliefs. He gets deeply involved in far rightwing political beliefs over the internet.

As right leaning media and his new friends tell him to go assassinate members of the FNM he actually goes and kills David Muir in the middle of a news broadcast.

Now if this were to happen...how would the left react?!?
Posted by: 18-1
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That take longer than the 2-second thought capacity of libs. Too many clauses.

Posted by: Axeman at September 12, 2025 04:19 PM (krQz2)

340 >>> 325 One of my brothers mentioned the abortion clinic bombings. I looked it up. It was over 30 years ago.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at September 12, 2025 04:16 PM (ZmEVT)

How surprised would anyone be if it turned out those were perpetrated by the Eff.Bee.EYE or civilian 'associates'...?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 12, 2025 04:19 PM (ULPxl)

341 324 She's pretty solidly a Bernie bro, pretty far left on most policies, especially on the ones she seems to value most. But she's also willing to listen to people outside the leftist echo chamber and is pretty reasonable when discussing things that aren't highly political.

So it's a nice gesture from her, but of all lefty influencers she's probably the first person that you would expect to condemn violence. I very much doubt this moves the needle on her voting for the left.
Posted by: Sjg at September 12, 2025 04:16 PM (aqZN1)

She tried to go even harder left because she was a big fan of Vaush. Vaush ever vouched for her to get Breadtube to "officially" accept her as one of their own.

But then they got pissed off at her to the point where they actually get angry at Vaush for getting them to stick their necks out for her.

Posted by: XTC at September 12, 2025 04:19 PM (UnA8+)

342 I think it wasn't the glove, it was his lucky stabbin hat.

Posted by: ... at September 12, 2025 04:19 PM (3rt5k)

343 You know what the left's response would have been if Kirk survived?

Just as vile, wishing he hadn't.


One of the most common responses from the left in regards to the first Trump assassination was wishing he was a better shot

Posted by: 18-1 at September 12, 2025 04:19 PM (sKqQm)

344 I read it in Christopher Lee's voice

I read everything in Peter Lorre's voice.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at September 12, 2025 04:13 PM

I read everything in Gilbert Gottfried's voice.
Posted by: toby928 at September 12, 2025 04:18 PM (jc0TO)
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The cacophony in my head right now is really something.

Posted by: Axeman at September 12, 2025 04:20 PM (krQz2)

345 The RINO governor of Utah thinks both sides need to be nicer to each other. Yeah well fuck off asshole. Kirk was about as nice as anyone can be.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at September 12, 2025 04:17 PM (AvVQO)

We can have the firing squad smile for him.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 12, 2025 04:20 PM (8avO+)

346 Not a single city burned this week. Hell not a single neighborhood burned.

In a way that’s good. But in a bigger way it’s also very bad. Because we talk a big talk but we don’t do shit at the end of the day.

And yes I realize I’m part of the problem. Because unlike the leftist street army members I have shit to lose.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at September 12, 2025 04:20 PM (AvVQO)

347 The thing about Bernie bros is that these are the people who went on to create the Justice Democrats - AOC, Omar, Tlaib, Kana, and so on. That is why Bernie and AOC were recently touring the country together. Bernie is their mentor,0.

Bernie is NOT a kindly, harmless forever politician, he’s helped create the new, America-hating socialist movement within the Democrat party.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 12, 2025 04:20 PM (Hkcdp)

348 The real alternative is a real Civil War. Do we really want that, with the street littered with the dead? Maybe you and me and others?
Posted by: Pepperidge Farms

we already have that. In Utah, and NC, and NYC...

Evil triumphs if good men do nothing.
Posted by: Oldcat

I do not counsel doing "Nothing". Already, people on the Right are "doxing" a lot of these hateful a-holes on "X" and elsewhere, finding out who employs them, and do they want this type of person working for them.
That's a start.
But fighting fire with fire will only make more fire, until we all burn.

And I don't expect Donald Trump to do nothing. Charlie Kirk was like a son to him. Charlie could go into the White House and tell DJT things he didn't want to hear, and Donald would listen, because he valued him so much. Don Jr. thought of him as his younger brother, and he, as I posted earlier, was almost in tears talking about Charlie the other night on Megyn Kelly's show (posted on YouTube).

Posted by: Pepperidge Farms remembers at September 12, 2025 04:20 PM (vcOmj)

349 How do you get to be Judge without a law license?

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 12, 2025 04:20 PM (4L9nF)

350 The RINO governor of Utah thinks both sides need to be nicer to each other.
.....

You want a nose piercing? I can help you with that.

Posted by: wth at September 12, 2025 04:21 PM (v0R5T)

351 333 Pope Pussy XIV hasn't yet said Charlie Kirk's name. Just pablum about coming together in dialogue.
But he's got a lot to say about Gaza and the migrants.

Posted by: gKWVE at September 12, 2025 04:18 PM (gKWVE)

Kirk wasn't Catholic, so the Pope speaking specifically on him right now seems a little misplaced. Kirk's own faith ministers are probably being allowed to speak 1st.

Posted by: Nova Local at September 12, 2025 04:21 PM (tOcjL)

352 Nicer isn't a option anymore

Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2025 04:21 PM (+qU29)

353
I read everything in Gilbert Gottfried's voice.
Posted by: toby928 at September 12, 2025 04:18 PM (jc0TO)

Now I can't stop!!!

Posted by: ... at September 12, 2025 04:21 PM (3rt5k)

354 349 Move to Pennsylvania and run for District Justice.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at September 12, 2025 04:21 PM (gm9Sb)

355 How do you get to be Judge without a law license?
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 12, 2025 04:20 PM (4L9nF)

Practice practice practice?

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2025 04:21 PM (lYQnC)

356 "Police have EVACUATED the area around the Charlie Kirk kiIIer's home after receiving "concerning information," per Fox"

He was not living with his parents, afaik. He had a roommate? So someone maybe wants it look like those crazy right wingers are planning a counterattack (trying to start a war?) on the killer's home (not the parents).

Posted by: illiniwek at September 12, 2025 04:21 PM (vbXSk)

357 Everything is in my own voice because I am not demonically possessed.

Funny. When I think-sing the Divine Mercy Chaplet, it is in Donna Cori Gibson's voice.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at September 12, 2025 04:22 PM (ZmEVT)

358 We are at war already. We (conservatives) just don't want to see it. It's called cognizant dissonance: when reality is too horrible to accept.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at September 12, 2025 04:19 PM (ZmEVT)

cognitive dissonance.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 12, 2025 04:22 PM (8avO+)

359 So was it a gang of violent, militant homosexuals that killed Charlie?

Posted by: One or more... at September 12, 2025 04:22 PM (uHCVe)

360 346 In a way that’s good. But in a bigger way it’s also very bad. Because we talk a big talk but we don’t do shit at the end of the day.

And yes I realize I’m part of the problem. Because unlike the leftist street army members I have shit to lose.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at September 12, 2025 04:20 PM (AvVQO)

This is the eternal struggle.

And nobody wants to be the first to fight back, either. Because the first is guaranteed to eat a bullet.

Posted by: XTC at September 12, 2025 04:22 PM (UnA8+)

361 Both sides should sit down and play Settlers.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 12, 2025 04:22 PM (4L9nF)

362 That website is:

https://www.charliesmurderers.com/

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 12, 2025 04:22 PM (kUxzU)

363 349 How do you get to be Judge without a law license?
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 12, 2025 04:20 PM (4L9nF)

Get Elected?

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 12, 2025 04:22 PM (mP0Kj)

364 I'm sure there's already a litany of why couldn't Tyler have been the guy in Butler "jokes"

Posted by: ... at September 12, 2025 04:22 PM (E0p3T)

365 This won't be the last murder by Cultural Marxists, if anything they are coming faster

Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2025 04:22 PM (+qU29)

366 We can't even get them distracted onto the topic of envisioning a guy walking onto a baseball field with a semi-automatic (or full) with a plan to gun down the opposite side of Congress.

In all these years, they have felt that the words "not really a ..." dispels all need for contemplating that.

I just have lost any faith that you are dealing with much cognition outside of the plotters. And the plotters know what they want.

Posted by: Axeman at September 12, 2025 04:23 PM (krQz2)

367 How do you get to be Judge without a law license?
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 12, 2025 04:20 PM


You talking about Charlotte? I think the title judge was a courtesy. She was a magistrate.

Posted by: toby928 at September 12, 2025 04:23 PM (jc0TO)

368 >>> Posted by: Pepperidge Farms remembers at September 12, 2025 04:20 PM (vcOmj)

Doxxing is more than just identifying employers, it's posting a person's home address with the obvious intent to intimidate that person.

What do you do when someone SAYS they want you dead, get a social worker?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 12, 2025 04:23 PM (ULPxl)

369 Pope Pussy XIV hasn't yet said Charlie Kirk's name. Just pablum about coming together in dialogue.
But he's got a lot to say about Gaza and the migrants.

Posted by: gKWVE at September 12, 2025 04:18 PM (gKWVE)

Kirk wasn't Catholic, so the Pope speaking specifically on him right now seems a little misplaced. Kirk's own faith ministers are probably being allowed to speak 1st.
Posted by: Nova Local at September 12, 2025 04:21 PM (tOcjL)

That's not how the last guy operated. He stuck his nose in everywhere.

I'm not sure about this guy, but he was elected by a group that was largely appointed by the last guy.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2025 04:23 PM (lYQnC)

370 Does anyone know the roommate's story? It sounds like the assassin texted him about the rifle, hiding it, changing his clothes--- how is he not implicated?

Posted by: LASue at September 12, 2025 04:23 PM (lCppi)

371 https://youtu.be/A9AcN7JmB8Q?si=DXfhMbxXc2l-M859

Posted by: Easter weekend at September 12, 2025 04:23 PM (jrgJz)

372 Glenn Greenwald @ggreenwald The attempt to blame left-liberals for Kirk's murder relies on the same...

Don't know who this guy is, but I see the op he's a part of.

Posted by: t-bird at September 12, 2025 04:24 PM (Fakdy)

373 A shhizo should never make bail.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 12, 2025 04:24 PM (4L9nF)

374 Alabama has Constables. Do other states have Constables?

Posted by: toby928 at September 12, 2025 04:24 PM (jc0TO)

375 350 The RINO governor of Utah thinks both sides need to be nicer to each other.
.....

You want a nose piercing? I can help you with that.
Posted by: wth



Charlie Kirk was nice.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at September 12, 2025 04:25 PM (sAmhv)

376 Illiniwek,
Probably sometime indicating explosives, etc

Posted by: whig's phone at September 12, 2025 04:25 PM (G6IVv)

377 I know Wolfus A. is in Nawlins, but I am not aware of any commenters in Memphis or nearby.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 12, 2025


***
And Landry, the Lousy-ana governor, welcomes Trump's help instead of screeching about how sending in the Guard is "fascism."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 12, 2025 04:25 PM (omVj0)

378 I wonder if any right-wing neocons have ever considered that how they feel in reaction to the left's assassination of Charlie Kirk is exactly how a Russian feels when you blow up Darya Dugina or an Iranian feels when you blow up Soleimani.'

If you feel great anger at the left and think they are evil, so to does the Russian think you are evil.

If you want vengeance against the left and justice, so too does the Iranian feel that way about you.

We are just immune to this type of thing, because America is usually the country that goes and kills political leaders and cultural icons in other nations. We aren't used to having our own political leaders and cultural icons killed.

Oh, and don't bother, I'm sure you already have your reason for why "it's different when we do it", and I'm not really interested in your justification.

Posted by: No Introspection at September 12, 2025 04:25 PM (jEzYL)

379 Alabama has Constables. Do other states have Constables?
Posted by: toby928 at September 12, 2025 04:24 PM (jc0TO)

On the show, Justified, the Patton Oswald character was a constable.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2025 04:25 PM (lYQnC)

380 Kirk wasn't Catholic, so the Pope speaking specifically on him right now seems a little misplaced. Kirk's own faith ministers are probably being allowed to speak 1st.
Posted by: Nova Local at September 12, 2025 04:21 PM (tOcjL)

That's not how the last guy operated. He stuck his nose in everywhere.

I'm not sure about this guy, but he was elected by a group that was largely appointed by the last guy.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2025 04:23 PM (lYQnC)

As we've seen, the new guy hasn't felt as self-important as the old one...and he speaks much more deliberately.

Posted by: Nova Local at September 12, 2025 04:25 PM (tOcjL)

381 If the murderer's family hadn't turned him in, the FBI would have killed the shooter and then covered up all connections to far left wing violence.
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The FBI, as always, exists to protect the interests of the federal government and its party.

Posted by: Methos at September 12, 2025 04:25 PM (zLwRl)

382 I read everything in Gilbert Gottfried's voice.
Posted by: toby928
.......

Me too.
Except the 'ettes. I read them in Fran Drescher's voice.

Posted by: wth at September 12, 2025 04:26 PM (v0R5T)

383 370 Does anyone know the roommate's story? It sounds like the assassin texted him about the rifle, hiding it, changing his clothes--- how is he not implicated?

Posted by: LASue at September 12, 2025 04:23 PM (lCppi)

From what I gather this guy was involved with a larger group on Discord, so they may have all been egging each other on and helping where they could.

I'm guess the FBI is already on that after talking to the roomate.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 12, 2025 04:26 PM (6ydKt)

384 Alabama has Constables. Do other states have Constables?
Posted by: toby928

I think the Met in NYC has a couple.

Posted by: Bulg at September 12, 2025 04:26 PM (77rzZ)

385 The RINO governor of Utah thinks both sides need to be nicer to each other.
.....

You want a nose piercing? I can help you with that.
Posted by: wth


Charlie Kirk was nice.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at September 12, 2025 04:25 PM (sAmhv)
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Line up another nice one. -- The Left and sympathizers.

Posted by: Axeman at September 12, 2025 04:26 PM (krQz2)

386 Probably just an online threat. Keyboard warrior.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 12, 2025 04:26 PM (4L9nF)

387 >>> 374 Alabama has Constables. Do other states have Constables?
Posted by: toby928 at September 12, 2025 04:24 PM (jc0TO)

Texas does. I read up on what they do that is distinct from sheriffs and police and I ... forgot.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 12, 2025 04:26 PM (ULPxl)

388 Alabama has Constables. Do other states have Constables?
Posted by: toby928

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What they got against stables?

Posted by: Axeman at September 12, 2025 04:26 PM (krQz2)

389 https://tinyurl.com/e5p3vdvd

Still works for me. It is on X. It is a creator named Jeffree Star, with long pink hair and three inch nails, standing up for Charlie Kirk.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 12, 2025 04:26 PM (kUxzU)

390 This just doesn't add up. Charlie was at an event 250 miles away from the shooter. And suddenly this mild mannered youth drives 4 hours to this highly coordinated assassination. Calmly and coolly squeezes off a single kill shot at a guy who never did anything to him.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at September 12, 2025 04:26 PM (wBaIH)

391 What would happen if Trump names names and then arrests all of their leaders? They all have the stain of treason on them . Hell, from their abetting of illegal invasion alone.
Could he use military tribunals? I want these bastards in prisons they can’t get out of. Who beside their voters would mind? Who would actually do anything?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 12, 2025 04:26 PM (jbnUc)

392 370 That wasn't a roommate. It was his trusted valet and confidant that answered the phone when the Commissioner called. Then he would fire up the giant spotlight signal and his boss would go out and murder someone in cold blood.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at September 12, 2025 04:26 PM (gm9Sb)

393 Posted by: No Introspection at September 12, 2025 04:25 PM

And? Are you trying to make some point?

Posted by: toby928 at September 12, 2025 04:26 PM (jc0TO)

394 The libshits of Reddit are now flipping out about a paper posted on the NIJ website that “proved” most of the recent political violence was right wing has now been removed. The research was funded by the democrats during the Biden admin of course and was likely a steaming pile of bullshit.

But, on noes, removing is just what the Nazis would have done! Except that the govt funding garbage like that is exactly what the Nazis actually did.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 12, 2025 04:27 PM (5VVEf)

395 Rachel Campos-Duffy made a good point on the Will Cain show on FNC. She said, the destruction of conservative speakers on campus has been going on for a long time. The LEFT DOESN'T NEED BODYGUARDS ON CAMPUS, CONSERVATIVES DO.

Posted by: redridinghood at September 12, 2025 04:28 PM (NpAcC)

396 The Trumps aren't gonna let this slide, no matter what the FBI wants. He will tear it apart if they try.
Posted by: Oldcat at September 12, 2025 04:00 PM (8avO+)

THIS. This has now become very personal for Trump. I believe he will do whatever is necessary to take apart Antifa, and their corporate/nonprofit backers.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 12, 2025 04:28 PM (0CU3H)

397 I hope tje Eff Bee Eye is getting better, this will be it's first public test

Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2025 04:28 PM (+qU29)

398 >>> 393 Posted by: No Introspection at September 12, 2025 04:25 PM

And? Are you trying to make some point?
Posted by: toby928 at September 12, 2025 04:26 PM (jc0TO)

Trool has an ironically stupid nic.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 12, 2025 04:28 PM (ULPxl)

399 Oh, and don't bother, I'm sure you already have your reason for why "it's different when we do it", and I'm not really interested in your justification.

Give me a list of the people Kirk killed, numbnuts. Go ahead, I'll wait.

Posted by: Halfhand at September 12, 2025 04:28 PM (UIKU/)

400 "It's long past time for all Americans and the media to confront the fact that violence and murder are the tragic consequence of demonizing those with whom you disagree day after day, year after year in the most hateful and despicable way possible. For years, those on the radical left have compared wonderful Americans like Charlie to Nazis and the world's worst mass murderers and criminals. This kind of rhetoric is directly responsible for the terrorism that we're seeing in our country today, and it must stop right now.

"My administration will find each and every one of those who contributed to this atrocity and to other political violence, including the organizations that fund it and support it, as well as those who go after our judges, law enforcement officials, and everyone else who brings order to our country.

cont

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2025 04:28 PM (aWmr1)

401 From the attack on my life in Butler, Pennsylvania last year, which killed a husband and father, to the attacks on ICE agents, to the vicious murder of a health care executive in the streets of New York, to the shooting of House Majority Leader Steve Scalice and three others. Radical left political violence has hurt too many innocent people and taken too many lives. Tonight, I ask all
Americans to commit themselves to the American values for which Charlie Kirk and the monster who attacked him was attacking our whole country. An assassin tried to silence him with a bullet, but he failed. Because together we will ensure that his voice, his message, and his legacy will live on for countless
generations to come. "
_Donald J. Trump, President, U.S.A.


Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2025 04:28 PM (aWmr1)

402 Maybe an ear gauge? Let me get my holepunch.

Posted by: wth at September 12, 2025 04:28 PM (v0R5T)

403 So, who is going to be the Leftist patsy to try and restore the Progressive narrative and reputation?

I can smell a false flag event coming from a mile away.

A set up for a high profile leftist to get whacked by some mysterious individual parading around as someone on the right. It's going to happen. It's how they play the game.

Just look how quickly the left jumped on any scant bit of information that might attach this current murderer to the right. And, look how fast the media, politicians, and leftists are falling all over themselves to suggest the "right does it too."

I hate to say it, but the left was never above sacrificing one of their own to protect their narrative. And, they are projecting like hell on this very issue.

Posted by: Orson at September 12, 2025 04:29 PM (dIske)

404 We are at war already. We (conservatives) just don't want to see it. It's called cognizant dissonance: when reality is too horrible to accept.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at September 12, 2025 04:19 PM (ZmEVT)

The Dems have been amping up the rhetoric on Charlie for quite a few months. They've been working on getting one of their assets to move on him.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 12, 2025 04:29 PM (8avO+)

405 Texas does. I read up on what they do that is distinct from sheriffs and police and I ... forgot.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 12, 2025 04:26 PM (ULPxl)

Texas constables mainly serve warrants, do evictions, and any other LEO duties that the beat cops and county deputies don't want to be bothered with. There have been some notable corruption scandals in several counties with them.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 12, 2025 04:29 PM (uWKK8)

406 I will believe the Dims are trying when I see these three things from their drunken wacko liberal "leaders"

1) They stop calling President Trump "Hitler"
2) When they stop using the boring and not understood word, "fascist"
3) When they lump me into a pile of "MAGATS" who don't have teeth, education, brains, wit, compassion, Christianity, faith, goodness and kindness

Please keep in mind that since I could read, and I read well once I learned at age 5yrs, I was lumped into these labels:
1) Redneck
2) Uneducated
3) KKK (never knew one)
4) Ignorant
5) White supremacist (never knew one)

In reality I was in an upper middle class life in the heart of MS, respecting and loving black women from birth.Went to school with black kids. Later, after I became a RN, worked with plenty of black nurses and had a black, gorgeous surgeon operate on me. Now try to call me a redneck.

For a young child the labels were confusing. I had the thought, seriously, at age 6yrs that I would not be able to leave the state because I saw such hatred of us in Life and Look Magazine.

Like that propaganda, only a small % are bad. Yet they are the ones that get the press, with their agony screaming and protesting

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at September 12, 2025 04:29 PM (6PCLE)

407 395 Rachel Campos-Duffy made a good point on the Will Cain show on FNC. She said, the destruction of conservative speakers on campus has been going on for a long time. The LEFT DOESN'T NEED BODYGUARDS ON CAMPUS, CONSERVATIVES DO.
Posted by: redridinghood at September 12, 2025 04:28 PM (NpAcC)

THIS. Oh, and one of the ways that they stop conservatives from speaking on campus is by telling them they have to foot the bill for their own security. Make it so expensive and inconvenient for them they take the hint and avoid the campus.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 12, 2025 04:29 PM (0CU3H)

408 The FBI, as always, exists to protect the interests of the federal government and its party.
Posted by: Methos at September 12, 2025 04:25 PM


To be fair, you can't be a Top. Man. if you're not a man of the Top.

Posted by: Top. Men. at September 12, 2025 04:29 PM (0sNs1)

409 Does anyone know the roommate's story? It sounds like the assassin texted him about the rifle, hiding it, changing his clothes--- how is he not implicated?
Posted by: LASue


College was different in my day. Sure, we'd all scheme on getting alcohol into the stadium, but murder? That never came up!

Posted by: t-bird at September 12, 2025 04:29 PM (Fakdy)

410 387 374 Pennsylvania has elected constables, kinda like running mates with the District Justice. Pretty good gig, receiving compensation through piece work. Paid for eviction notices, etc.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at September 12, 2025 04:29 PM (gm9Sb)

411 "Charlie Kirk is the same as the chief terrorist of Iran," is a take.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 12, 2025 04:29 PM (GBKbO)

412 Whatever happened to those guys with the Tiki Torches?

Posted by: toby928 at September 12, 2025 04:30 PM (jc0TO)

413
THIS. This has now become very personal for Trump. I believe he will do whatever is necessary to take apart Antifa, and their corporate/nonprofit backers.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 12, 2025 04:28 PM (0CU3H)

Has he been connected to Antifa

Posted by: It's me donna at September 12, 2025 04:30 PM (VE6XX)

414 We can't even get them distracted onto the topic of envisioning a guy walking onto a baseball field with a semi-automatic (or full) with a plan to gun down the opposite side of Congress.
In all these years, they have felt that the words "not really a ..." dispels all need for contemplating that.
I just have lost any faith that you are dealing with much cognition outside of the plotters. And the plotters know what they want.
Posted by: Axeman

Lest we forget about Steve Scalise, and that he would have bled out, if not for the fact that there was a combat doc in the group of Congressmen practicing baseball that day.
Charlie had gotten plenty of death threats, and he took them seriously. He was wearing a bullet- proof vest under his shirt. The thinking of some was that the bullet that hit him in the neck deflected off his vest.
He had plenty of guts and was determined not to be scared away from his mission. A lot of his closest friends are actually starting to re-think what they are going to do...publicly. And that's where this is leading to.

Posted by: Pepperidge Farms remembers at September 12, 2025 04:30 PM (vcOmj)

415 From what I gather this guy was involved with a larger group on Discord, so they may have all been egging each other on and helping where they could.

I'm guess the FBI is already on that after talking to the roomate.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 12, 2025 04:26 PM (6ydKt)

Thanks.

Posted by: LASue at September 12, 2025 04:30 PM (lCppi)

416 Oh, and don't bother, I'm sure you already have your reason for why "it's different when we do it", and I'm not really interested in your justification.

Posted by: No Introspection at September 12, 2025 04:25 PM (jEzYL)

Charlie wasn't some military/terrorist leader in Iran or a daughter of a billionaire targeted by the Ukrainians during a war. Those are ridiculous comparisons on their face.

There are no angels here, or in Russia or Iran, so STFU with your moral relativism & "introspection", you half-witted cultist.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 12, 2025 04:30 PM (6ydKt)

417 Trump, to his credit, shot down that stupid Fox lady who tried to push the moral equivalence swill on him. He said the only radicalism on the Right was from those who want crime-free cities and social order. How radical!

Posted by: Ordinary American at September 12, 2025 04:30 PM (WHfpM)

418 Some more information about the FBI's role in arresting Charlie Kirk's assassin:

BREAKING EXCLUSIVE: The FBI strategically DELAYED their press conference last night for several hours in order to "smoke out" Charlie Kirk’s kiIIer, following critical witness interviews, per FBI source

FBI intercepted the suspect's cell phone pings and established a trail prior the press conference which caused the suspect's father to turn in his son shortly thereafter.

https://tinyurl.com/mwn49yyu

Posted by: Splunge at September 12, 2025 04:30 PM (Yp3x2)

419 The libshits of Reddit are now flipping out about a paper posted on the NIJ website that “proved” most of the recent political violence was right wing has now been removed. The research was funded by the democrats during the Biden admin of course and was likely a steaming pile of bullshit.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 12, 2025 04:27 PM (5VVEf)
---
We already know how high they piled that heap.

It's as bad as "36 school shootings already this year". Unfortunately I had to set my pastor straight on that meme. He's a great pastor--but from time to time he picks up media detritus.

(One of the "school shootings" was a *bullet* hitting a *school*)

Posted by: Axeman at September 12, 2025 04:30 PM (krQz2)

420 413
THIS. This has now become very personal for Trump. I believe he will do whatever is necessary to take apart Antifa, and their corporate/nonprofit backers.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 12, 2025 04:28 PM (0CU3H)

Has he been connected to Antifa
Posted by: It's me donna at September 12, 2025 04:30 PM (VE6XX)

=======

Officials have revealed very little of the specifics they've found, especially on his Discord account.

We're in black box territory outside of their affidavits which aren't complete records of all the evidence they have.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 12, 2025 04:31 PM (GBKbO)

421 390 Zhukov,

Yes. Lefties do that shit. Go back and read accounts from the 60s to 80s with bombings etc. also fairly common in European and Latin American political history.

Assassinations are when the public society has a massive internal split. One side wants total power and is willing to kill others to get it.

Posted by: whig's phone at September 12, 2025 04:31 PM (G6IVv)

422 >>> 408 The FBI, as always, exists to protect the interests of the federal government and its party.
Posted by: Methos at September 12, 2025 04:25 PM

To be fair, you can't be a Top. Man. if you're not a man of the Top.
Posted by: Top. Men. at September 12, 2025 04:29 PM (0sNs1)

*sobs*

I know.

Posted by: Brian Stelter at September 12, 2025 04:31 PM (ULPxl)

423
As many leftie lists as I've read through, I have an innate distrust of leftie lists.

Posted by: Axeman at September 12, 2025 04:31 PM (krQz2)

424 Ace, excellent work. Solid summary of where we find ourselves, the division and differences, the brutal reality of those, and the ever looming consequences that could pop off at any time. Raising both sides arguments are over; they imply there is a middle ground to be negotiated over. That middle ground is now plowed in, bombed to craters; what's left is to either dig in or be overrun. I have no idea where we land as a nation going forward. What does seem true is the next time there is a meeting in the middle ground it won't be for negotiations. Stay safe my friend, stay safe.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at September 12, 2025 04:31 PM (aJQjq)

425 Oh, and don't bother, I'm sure you already have your reason for why "it's different when we do it", and I'm not really interested in your justification.

Give me a list of the people Kirk killed, numbnuts. Go ahead, I'll wait.
Posted by: Halfhand at September 12, 2025 04:28 PM (UIKU/)

to be fair, he seemed to be speaking about neocons. But since the bulk of neocons are Democrats these days, and I opposed a lot of what they did it seemed not very relevant.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 12, 2025 04:31 PM (8avO+)

426 378: bOTh SidEZ, REEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

Again, that shit doesn't work anymore but bless your heart.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at September 12, 2025 04:31 PM (sAmhv)

427 Tjm makes a good point. Wait and see.

Posted by: whig's phone at September 12, 2025 04:32 PM (G6IVv)

428 "1 guy acted alone and they want to go to war? It's like they just were looking for any reason."

been a hell of a lot more than one reason the last 10 years or so

Posted by: UGAdawg at September 12, 2025 04:32 PM (aHqGJ)

429 Kirk wasn't Catholic, so the Pope speaking specifically on him right now seems a little misplaced. Kirk's own faith ministers are probably being allowed to speak 1st.
Posted by: Nova Local at September 12, 2025 04:21 PM (tOcjL)

That's not how the last guy operated. He stuck his nose in everywhere.

I'm not sure about this guy, but he was elected by a group that was largely appointed by the last guy.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2025 04:23 PM (lYQnC)

As we've seen, the new guy hasn't felt as self-important as the old one...and he speaks much more deliberately.
Posted by: Nova Local at September 12, 2025 04:25 PM (tOcjL)
*******
Raymond Arroyo, spoke recently to Charlie and said that Charlie started to go mass with his wife who is Catholic.

Posted by: redridinghood at September 12, 2025 04:32 PM (NpAcC)

430 "The moment the men who wanted to be left alone are forced to fight back, it is a form of suicide. They are literally killing off who they used to be. Which is why, when forced to take up violence, these men who wanted to be left alone, fight with unholy vengeance against those who murdered their former lives. They fight with raw hate, and a drive that cannot be fathomed by those who are merely play-acting at politics and terror. TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream and beg for mercy… but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the men who just wanted to be left alone."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Star Trek: Deep Space 9
Season 2: Episode 25 - Tribunal

Chief Miles O'Brien: It's not you I hate, Cardassian; I hate what I became because of you.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at September 12, 2025 04:32 PM (M0V4/)

431
Even in WWII the Japanese soon found that the US troops, particularly Marines were better at it than they were.
Posted by: Oldcat at September 12, 2025 04:18 PM (8avO+)



Recruited from jails and insane asylums for blood lust...

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 12, 2025 04:32 PM (y9nCu)

432 NY Times article on nobody donating for Biden library:

“I don’t believe a library will ever be built unless it’s a bookmobile from the old days,” added Morgan, who is a longtime Biden devotee.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at September 12, 2025 04:32 PM (XvL8K)

433 "Charlie Kirk is the same as the chief terrorist of Iran," is a take.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 12, 2025 04:29 PM (GBKbO)

I took it his point was "one side's terrorist is the other side's freedom fighter," which is a take. Somewhat in line with Greenwald's, I guess.

Not at all relevant to the Charlie Kirk assassination, but it's a take.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2025 04:33 PM (lYQnC)

434 Ask Riley Gaines what its like trying to have a lecture on campus. We're they going to injure or kill her? They were leftists, so you'd have to think it was entirely possible.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 12, 2025 04:33 PM (Dv3i1)

435 Are we about to be unbosomed?

Posted by: Piper at September 12, 2025 04:33 PM (pZEOD)

436 >>> 412 Whatever happened to those guys with the Tiki Torches?
Posted by: toby928 at September 12, 2025 04:30 PM (jc0TO)

No clue.

Posted by: Patriot Front at September 12, 2025 04:33 PM (ULPxl)

437 394 The libshits of Reddit are now flipping out about a paper posted on the NIJ website that “proved” most of the recent political violence was right wing has now been removed. The research was funded by the democrats during the Biden admin of course and was likely a steaming pile of bullshit.

But, on noes, removing is just what the Nazis would have done! Except that the govt funding garbage like that is exactly what the Nazis actually did.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 12, 2025 04:27 PM (5VVEf)

I looked at it before it was gone - it "proved" that most violence was from the right wing was by including all of the violent crimes of the prison gang "Aryan Brotherhood" as Right Wing Violence. Because of the word Aryan.

so yeah the assumption was that everyone who posts here, for example, was no different than a tatted Aryan Brotherhood con.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 12, 2025 04:33 PM (uWKK8)

438 Sitting on my couch chugging Geritol and playing "Torn Between Two Lovers" on repeat.

Posted by: Taylor Lorenz at September 12, 2025 04:33 PM (Yp3x2)

439 Posted by: Pepperidge Farms

I am split 50/50 on your wonderful comment. I agree with you in spirit.

But my own eyes can't help but notice that in the last week alone, several bodies have littered the streets. 2 school children. A young refugee from a war torn country who came here seeking protection from violence. A young man who invited everyone who disagreed with him to come have a conversation with him.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 12, 2025 04:33 PM (Vvh2V)

440 So, did Andycanuck flounce the other day?

Posted by: Bulg at September 12, 2025 04:34 PM (77rzZ)

441 Seems like a bit of media coordination may be going on with people from the left side quoting Kirk to try to take the heat off their side. I mean Brian Stelter and Glenn Greenwald?

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at September 12, 2025 04:34 PM (36PRH)

442 Raymond Arroyo, spoke recently to Charlie and said that Charlie started to go mass with his wife who is Catholic.

Posted by: redridinghood at September 12, 2025 04:32 PM (NpAcC)

So, he was on his way to possibly converting...or just trying to understand the faith vs his own (until recently, even though there were enormous similarities, not all evangelicals were fans of the Catholic faith, but that's been changing)...

Posted by: Nova Local at September 12, 2025 04:34 PM (tOcjL)

443 Left: The right are ist-a-phobes who want to kill women and put blacks in chains and are literal nazis who want to kill everyone and they must be stopped at ALL costs!

Right: Stop cheating in elections and showing porn to our kids, you weirdos.

Glenn: Looks even to me!

Posted by: Cray Cray at September 12, 2025 04:34 PM (EES2L)

444 I wonder if any right-wing neocons have ever considered that how they feel in reaction to the left's assassination of Charlie Kirk is exactly how a Russian feels when you blow up Darya Dugina or an Iranian feels when you blow up Soleimani.' /i]

Soleimani was engaged in terrorism, or if you prefer, paramilitary combat. There is no right wing equivalent to him in the US.

Killing Darya Dugina was illegal by the current nominal state of international law. But because of who killed her there will be no investigation or arrest.

But both of these are terrible examples. The closest examples from other countries are the left's assassination of Miguel Uribe Turbay in Columbia.

The American right just doesn't play these sort of games, only the left.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 12, 2025 04:34 PM (sKqQm)

445 But the right doesn't have a million plus crazy killer types with means to do those murders. Because "conservatives" don't think that way -- and the conservative's life has too much other meaning (church, family, career) to waste it becoming (in)famous by killing a political enemy.
-
The men who founded this country found a way.
Posted by: Methos at September 12, 2025 04:15 PM (zLwRl)

Not crazy killers, but determined methodical killers who will tear out this poison root and branch. Even in WWII the Japanese soon found that the US troops, particularly Marines were better at it than they were.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 12, 2025 04:18 PM (8avO+)

Bingo. Not crazy, but methodical, brutal, tactical, thorough, and final.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 12, 2025 04:35 PM (snZF9)

446 It's as bad as "36 school shootings already this year". Unfortunately I had to set my pastor straight on that meme. He's a great pastor--but from time to time he picks up media detritus.

(One of the "school shootings" was a *bullet* hitting a *school*)
Posted by: Axeman at September 12, 2025 04:30 PM (krQz2)

every one of those is from usually democrat officials not taking even the most simple precautions, and advertising that there is no defense inside. People would volunteer to sit at every entrance with arms to defend it.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 12, 2025 04:35 PM (8avO+)

447 Sitting on my couch chugging Geritol and playing "Torn Between Two Lovers" on repeat.
Posted by: Taylor Lorenz

She's so old, she remembers the original Sumerian version.

Posted by: Bulg at September 12, 2025 04:35 PM (77rzZ)

448 The current pope is from the same state as Charlie.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 12, 2025 04:35 PM (Vvh2V)

449 People are just figuring this out now? That the other side wants us dead? Where was everyone during the “pandemic of the unvaccinated” madness 5 years ago?

Posted by: MrUNIVAC at September 12, 2025 04:35 PM (d/H14)

450 >>>Like that propaganda, only a small % are bad. Yet they are the ones that get the press, with their agony screaming and protesting
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat
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100% agree but fear that ghetto propaganda, like rap music and the media, are recruiting too many followers.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2025 04:35 PM (aWmr1)

451 So, he was on his way to possibly converting...or just trying to understand the faith vs his own (until recently, even though there were enormous similarities, not all evangelicals were fans of the Catholic faith, but that's been changing)...
Posted by: Nova Local

Similarities, really? Like what?

Posted by: Bulg at September 12, 2025 04:36 PM (77rzZ)

452 I looked at it before it was gone - it "proved" that most violence was from the right wing was by including all of the violent crimes of the prison gang "Aryan Brotherhood" as Right Wing Violence. Because of the word Aryan.


No Mexican Mafia or Muslim Brotherhood violence included?

Posted by: rickb223 at September 12, 2025 04:36 PM (D3P9d)

453 As we've seen, the new guy hasn't felt as self-important as the old one...and he speaks much more deliberately.
Posted by: Nova Local

Pope Leo XIV is just about the same as Pope Francis. He just wears more of the traditional Pope stuff to appear to respect tradition.
The thinking of some is that Leo was elected to help raise money in America, because Vatican City is a billion dollars in debt.

But...the Church will endure.

Posted by: Pepperidge Farms remembers at September 12, 2025 04:36 PM (vcOmj)

454 so yeah the assumption was that everyone who posts here, for example, was no different than a tatted Aryan Brotherhood con.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 12, 2025 04:33 PM (uWKK

WAIT!!! I thought we were all Russian Bots!

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 12, 2025 04:37 PM (mP0Kj)

455 I absolutely, thoroughly, and completely loathe and detest that execrable saying about terrorists and freedom fighters.

It's so bludgeoningly asinine on its surface that I don't even feel I need to expend letters and spaces excoriating it for its stupidity.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 12, 2025 04:37 PM (06Hmj)

456 They call Trump Hitler.

It's it a subject of much conversation that if we had a time machine we might find it worthwhile to kill Hitler--even as a baby?!

You didn't need a time machine for Bushitler, and you don't need a time machine for Trump.

The key to lib rhetoric is evasion.

Posted by: Axeman at September 12, 2025 04:37 PM (krQz2)

457 >>>unbosom

outstanding word. I'll add it to a post I'm going to put up.
Posted by: ace

Similar to Open Kimono

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 12, 2025 04:37 PM (/lPRQ)

458 The current pope is from the same state as Charlie.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor

Illinois? Is that why fatty Pritzker was weighing in the other day?

Posted by: Bulg at September 12, 2025 04:37 PM (77rzZ)

459 From what I gather this guy was involved with a larger group on Discord, so they may have all been egging each other on and helping where they could.

I'm guess the FBI is already on that after talking to the roomate.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 12, 2025 04:26 PM (6ydKt)

Discord can also be 1 on 1 DMs, small group chats, or servers with 2 or 3 people. Anyone can make a server and invite whoever they want to it. So not necessarily a larger group.

Posted by: Sjg at September 12, 2025 04:37 PM (aqZN1)

460 WAIT!!! I thought we were all Russian Bots!
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 12, 2025 04:37 PM (mP0Kj)

Beepsky bopsky boopsky.

Posted by: Warai-otokovitch at September 12, 2025 04:37 PM (06Hmj)

461 332 Sidebosum.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 12, 2025 04:18 PM (4L9nF)

I thought that was a naval term...or is it bosun?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 12, 2025 04:38 PM (ynpvh)

462 Ask Riley Gaines what its like trying to have a lecture on campus. We're they going to injure or kill her? They were leftists, so you'd have to think it was entirely possible.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 12, 2025 04:33 PM (Dv3i1)

An excited mob can always kill, on purpose or by accident. You need to remember that in any crowd.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 12, 2025 04:38 PM (8avO+)

463 Bulg I saw comments on that it is true, I hope not

Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2025 04:38 PM (+qU29)

464 Similarities, really? Like what?
Posted by: Bulg at September 12, 2025 04:36 PM


I am reasonable sure that both are Trinitarians.

Posted by: toby928 at September 12, 2025 04:38 PM (jc0TO)

465 The thinking of some is that Leo was elected to help raise money in America, because Vatican City is a billion dollars in debt.
Posted by: Pepperidge Farms remembers

And to be a leftie counterweight to Trump.

Posted by: Bulg at September 12, 2025 04:38 PM (77rzZ)

466 Go back in time and help the Austrian get into art school.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 12, 2025 04:38 PM (4L9nF)

467 I read that the roommate actually let law enforcement onto the logged-in Discord on the demon's computer.

Posted by: Splunge at September 12, 2025 04:39 PM (Yp3x2)

468 I thought that was a naval term...or is it bosun?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 12, 2025 04:38 PM (ynpvh)

bosun is a naval rank on nco side

Posted by: Oldcat at September 12, 2025 04:39 PM (8avO+)

469 I looked at it before it was gone - it "proved" that most violence was from the right wing was by including all of the violent crimes of the prison gang "Aryan Brotherhood" as Right Wing Violence. Because of the word Aryan.


No Mexican Mafia or Muslim Brotherhood violence included?
Posted by: rickb223 at September 12, 2025 04:36 PM (D3P9d)
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I doubt that you can get them to spend more than a glance at "La Raza"--- literally "The Race"--and they are talking about the Latinx Race.

Posted by: Axeman at September 12, 2025 04:39 PM (krQz2)

470 Charlie had gotten plenty of death threats, and he took them seriously. He was wearing a bullet- proof vest under his shirt. The thinking of some was that the bullet that hit him in the neck deflected off his vest.
He had plenty of guts and was determined not to be scared away from his mission. A lot of his closest friends are actually starting to re-think what they are going to do...publicly. And that's where this is leading to.
Posted by: Pepperidge Farms remembers at September 12, 2025 04:30 PM (vcOmj)

While I have no idea and could be wrong, I believe his closest friends, if they are friends, will pick up his flag and carry on his message as a happy warrior.

Young men he influenced are doing this.

There is anger at losing such a great voice, but there should also be reflection on what type of message he wanted shared.

We all say things here freely, with venom on my part, and use of language I would not say in front of my family because this is a fun place.

That said, I do hope none of you resort to violence. Ever. Unless physically threatened.

Being a happy person nearly kills these evil dipshits to begin with. To not let them see their words and screaming hurts them.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at September 12, 2025 04:39 PM (6PCLE)

471 466 Go back in time and help the Austrian get into art school.
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 12, 2025 04:38 PM (4L9nF)

=======

Go back in time and strangle Princip in his bed the night before he kills the Archduke.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 12, 2025 04:39 PM (GBKbO)

472 395 Rachel Campos-Duffy made a good point on the Will Cain show on FNC. She said, the destruction of conservative speakers on campus has been going on for a long time. The LEFT DOESN'T NEED BODYGUARDS ON CAMPUS, CONSERVATIVES DO.

Posted by: redridinghood at September 12, 2025 04:28 PM


If one of the campus pro-life groups puts up a display of symbols on the grounds (like lives lost today due to abortions), that display almost never survives more than two nights. Yet I have never heard of an expulsion, much less an arrest for destroying their property and display.

Yet, when someone tried to put up WHITE LIVES MATTER posters at one university during the Floyd craziness, all of the powers at the university tried to launch a full-scale manhunt.

There are no equal rights at all on 99% of U.S. college campuses.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at September 12, 2025 04:39 PM (HlyYF)

473 I am reasonable sure that both are Trinitarians.
Posted by: toby928

Well, so am I, and I'm a heathen Presbyterian.

Posted by: Bulg at September 12, 2025 04:39 PM (77rzZ)

474 458 The current pope is from the same state as Charlie.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor

Illinois? Is that why fatty Pritzker was weighing in the other day?

Posted by: Bulg at September 12, 2025 04:37 PM (77rzZ)

There are people that always weigh in even when they don't say or do anything. Like Tank Abrams.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 12, 2025 04:39 PM (ynpvh)

475 >>> Are we about to be unbosomed?
Posted by: Piper at September 12, 2025 04:33 PM (pZEOD)


Brothers and Sisters. We must RELEASE ourselves from these bra-straps of oppression.

And strengthen our RESOLVE with unwavering underwires of SOLIDARITY!

Posted by: banana X dream at September 12, 2025 04:39 PM (3uBP9)

476 >>>Bingo. Not crazy, but methodical, brutal, tactical, thorough, and final.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
---------

One hopes that President Trump's subordinates follow through on his words. Doing that is our last best hope.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2025 04:39 PM (aWmr1)

477 451 So, he was on his way to possibly converting...or just trying to understand the faith vs his own (until recently, even though there were enormous similarities, not all evangelicals were fans of the Catholic faith, but that's been changing)...
Posted by: Nova Local

Similarities, really? Like what?

Posted by: Bulg at September 12, 2025 04:36 PM (77rzZ)

Serious question? Similarities between Evangelicals and Catholics? It's usually easier to just highlight the normal 3 main differences, depending on the Evangelical faith - Mary, Real Presence of Jesus in the Eucharist, and the Pope. I can get into the weeds on what about those 3, but Evangelicals are not all exactly the same, and this is not a religious blog, nor am I an Evangelical scholar...

Posted by: Nova Local at September 12, 2025 04:39 PM (tOcjL)

478 Lazy Boy satanists, backseat drivers to hell.

Posted by: Dreamingrobot at September 12, 2025 04:39 PM (7N/Zu)

479 Go back in time and help the Austrian get into art school.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 12, 2025 04:38 PM (4L9nF)
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Drafting. He drew elevations.

Posted by: Axeman at September 12, 2025 04:40 PM (krQz2)

480 The thing to remember folks is these people always believed this. The only difference is now they say it out loud and proud.

Posted by: james at September 12, 2025 04:40 PM (fM35C)

481 Sitting on my couch chugging Geritol and playing "Torn Between Two Lovers" on repeat.
Posted by: Taylor Lorenz

She's so old, she remembers the original Sumerian version.
Posted by: Bulg

For the Win!

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convicitions at September 12, 2025 04:40 PM (aJQjq)

482 Posted by: Bulg at September 12, 2025 04:37 PM (77rzZ)

Could be, though it could also just be because he likes to hear himself talk and feared a trans connection and was trying to get out ahead of it.

His entire family is whackadoo.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 12, 2025 04:40 PM (Vvh2V)

483 I absolutely, thoroughly, and completely loathe and detest that execrable saying about terrorists and freedom fighters.

It's so bludgeoningly asinine on its surface that I don't even feel I need to expend letters and spaces excoriating it for its stupidity.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 12, 2025 04:37 PM (06Hmj)

Both terms are loaded, primarily to both raise emotions, and justify actions.

A better saying might be "they hate you as much as you hate them, and for pretty much the same reasons."

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2025 04:40 PM (lYQnC)

484 Go back in time and strangle Princip in his bed the night before he kills the Archduke.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 12, 2025 04:39 PM (GBKbO)

Kill the Archduke's grandmother as a baby.

Posted by: Warai-otokovitch at September 12, 2025 04:40 PM (06Hmj)

485 Not at all relevant to the Charlie Kirk assassination, but it's a take.
Posted by: BurtTC

Charlie was determined, but determined to debate and persuade. Charlie Kirk was not a violent guy.

And after listening to him for years, I felt I almost knew him, I just feel so sad he is dead. His legacy should not be to ramp up more violence.
Although I truly hate a lot of the people that have said such vile things about him. He was a good man, and was doing his best to save the country FROM a civil war, by engaging in debate of ideas.

Posted by: Pepperidge Farms remembers at September 12, 2025 04:40 PM (vcOmj)

486 468 I thought that was a naval term...or is it bosun?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 12, 2025 04:38 PM (ynpvh)

bosun is a naval rank on nco side

Posted by: Oldcat at September 12, 2025 04:39 PM (8avO+)

shhh. I know. Boatswain.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 12, 2025 04:40 PM (ynpvh)

487 "1 guy acted alone and they want to go to war? It's like they just were looking for any reason."

been a hell of a lot more than one reason the last 10 years or so
Posted by: UGAdawg at September 12, 2025 04:32 PM (aHqGJ)
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Straw. Camel. Back. Some assembly required.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 12, 2025 04:40 PM (7fElN)

488 I was the paper on the way back machine. The authors referenced their own works extensively so I stopped reading.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 12, 2025 04:41 PM (5VVEf)

489 Just think, two weeks ago we were laughing about bolton getting his comeuppance, and last week we were correcting Cracker Barrel's deviance.

Now we're burying Charlie Kirk, who was young enough to be our son.

God Only Knows what's next.
Posted by: Soothsayer at September 12, 2025 03:51 PM (O7j1V)


Two weeks ago we thought ourselves cynical...but it was if an age of innocence was coming to an end.

Posted by: Max Power at September 12, 2025 04:41 PM (q177U)

490 WAIT!!! I thought we were all Russian Bots!
Posted by: Romeo13 at September

You have to look at the back of your membership card to see which group you are representing.

Posted by: Piper at September 12, 2025 04:41 PM (pZEOD)

491 bosun is a naval rank on nco side
Posted by: Oldcat

Not a rank. It's a variant of "boatwswain," a guy who's in charge of a boat -- e.g., one taking the sailors ashore from a ship.

Posted by: Bulg at September 12, 2025 04:41 PM (77rzZ)

492
Brothers and Sisters. We must RELEASE ourselves from these bra-straps of oppression.


Tell you what if I did that it wouldn't be a pretty sight...


Posted by: It's me donna at September 12, 2025 04:41 PM (VE6XX)

493 Keep in mind they did not shoot Kirk/celebrate his being shot because of politics. They are doing this because he disagreed with their belief system - IOW their religion.

The politics is only because it is the means to achieving their religious utopia. You're not just debating a 10% or 10.5% tax on beach balls. You're telling them their most fundamental beliefs - no matter how stupidly arrived at - are bulls**t (because they are). They have been indoctrinated by their priests (celebrities, 'experts'. politicians) that you are the evil heathen among them, and they must convert you or cast you out. And their religious fervor has reached such a fever pitch that killing you is a good alternative if they can't convert you. (And Charlie could not be converted. As a matter of fact he was the rock upon which their waves broke.)

And, of course, some of this fever pitch is because they see a bunch of casual religious brethren walking away from them, denouncing their crap piety. And they just can't have that.

Be a Charlie-style Crusader, and be armed to the teeth in case they decide to attack.

Posted by: GWB at September 12, 2025 04:42 PM (RTQn+)

494 Not a rank. It's a variant of "boatwswain," a guy who's in charge of a boat -- e.g., one taking the sailors ashore from a ship.
Posted by: Bulg at September

The opposite of coxswain.

Posted by: Piper at September 12, 2025 04:42 PM (pZEOD)

495 469 I looked at it before it was gone - it "proved" that most violence was from the right wing was by including all of the violent crimes of the prison gang "Aryan Brotherhood" as Right Wing Violence. Because of the word Aryan.


No Mexican Mafia or Muslim Brotherhood violence included?
Posted by: rickb223 at September 12, 2025 04:36 PM (D3P9d)
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I doubt that you can get them to spend more than a glance at "La Raza"--- literally "The Race"--and they are talking about the Latinx Race.

Posted by: Axeman at September 12, 2025 04:39 PM (krQz2)

The Latinx does not exist; it is the fever-child of a white, libbie mind.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 12, 2025 04:42 PM (ynpvh)

496 When people who think their smart really aren't: We see the media, politicians, social media, and all the crazies in our every day life call us racists, nazis and an existential threat to our democracy and those calls have caused lots of innocent people get murdered in the streets as well as publicly assassinated (with an attempt x2 in the mix). We disagree to the bile but then Glenn sees it as both sides BS, someone take is pen and laptop away before he pokes himself in the eye and drops it on his toe.

Posted by: Cray Cray at September 12, 2025 04:42 PM (EES2L)

497 I absolutely, thoroughly, and completely loathe and detest that execrable saying about terrorists and freedom fighters.

It's so bludgeoningly asinine on its surface that I don't even feel I need to expend letters and spaces excoriating it for its stupidity.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 12, 2025 04:37 PM (06Hmj)

Freedom fighters attack the military forces of their enemy. Terrorists attack innocent civilians, affecting their supposed enemy very little.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 12, 2025 04:42 PM (8avO+)

498 >>> I thought that was a naval term...or is it bosun?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 12, 2025 04:38 PM (ynpvh)


I thought it was a nice place with lovely women that had magnificent Barsooms.

Posted by: John Carter at September 12, 2025 04:43 PM (3uBP9)

499 Statue of Liberty
Trade you our Marxist for your dogs

Posted by: Dreamingrobot at September 12, 2025 04:43 PM (7N/Zu)

500 494 Not a rank. It's a variant of "boatwswain," a guy who's in charge of a boat -- e.g., one taking the sailors ashore from a ship.
Posted by: Bulg at September

The opposite of coxswain.

Posted by: Piper at September 12, 2025 04:42 PM (pZEOD)

And the coxwain worked from his pit, which is now known as the cockpit...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 12, 2025 04:43 PM (ynpvh)

501 Well, so am I, and I'm a heathen Presbyterian.
Posted by: Bulg at September 12, 2025 04:39 PM


I lean toward a bit of Arianism, which makes me a heretic in my own church.

Posted by: toby928 at September 12, 2025 04:43 PM (jc0TO)

502 Often overlooked fact about Charlie: he was completely self-taught. Never went to college. His reserves of both scriptural and Constitutional knowledge were incredible. What a rare and talented guy. Don Trump Jr says he would have become president. (Don Trump Jr's conversation with Megan Kelly is very worth it). Such a sickening loss

Posted by: Ordinary American at September 12, 2025 04:44 PM (WHfpM)

503 Typical leftist feminine passive-aggressive bullshit.

Posted by: runninrebel at September 12, 2025 04:44 PM (BrvNz)

504 I doubt that you can get them to spend more than a glance at "La Raza"--- literally "The Race"--and they are talking about the Latinx Race.

Posted by: Axeman at September 12, 2025 04:39 PM (krQz2)

The Latinx does not exist; it is the fever-child of a white, libbie mind.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 12, 2025 04:42 PM (ynpvh)

La Raza long predates Latinx. They were trying to claw back the Mexican Cession some decades ago.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 12, 2025 04:44 PM (8avO+)

505 They call Trump Hitler.

It's it a subject of much conversation that if we had a time machine we might find it worthwhile to kill Hitler--even as a baby?!

You didn't need a time machine for Bushitler, and you don't need a time machine for Trump.

The key to lib rhetoric is evasion.
Posted by: Axeman

Even a cursory look at Trump shows he is the opposite of Hitler in every dimension. Still the Left persists in tying him to one of the most evil people to ever live, somebody that had to killed to stop him. It is that last part that matters, they call Trump Hitler because the next logical step is to assassinate him. Same goes for calling the rest of of us Nazis.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convicitions at September 12, 2025 04:44 PM (aJQjq)

506 495 469 I looked at it before it was gone - it "proved" that most violence was from the right wing was by including all of the violent crimes of the prison gang "Aryan Brotherhood" as Right Wing Violence. Because of the word Aryan.


Then the murderer isn't gonna like prison since it's entirely filled with right wingers so "they" say

Posted by: It's me donna at September 12, 2025 04:44 PM (VE6XX)

507 *Breaking: In a phone interview on, one of Tyler Robinson’s high school friends, said that the suspect was “pretty left on everything” Per The Guardian

“The rest of his family was very hard Republican,” the friend said.*

https://x.com/OpenSourceZone/status/1966602140417249587

Obviously this is just code for Tyler really being a "right-wing conservative" and he hated Charlie for not being full-fascist or something equally as stupid. *sarc*.

Posted by: Thrawn at September 12, 2025 04:44 PM (9Ovst)

508 498 >>> I thought that was a naval term...or is it bosun?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 12, 2025 04:38 PM (ynpvh)


I thought it was a nice place with lovely women that had magnificent Barsooms.

Posted by: John Carter at September 12, 2025 04:43 PM (3uBP9)

You would.

Posted by: Dejah Thoris at September 12, 2025 04:44 PM (ynpvh)

509 Stephen A. Smith knocks it out of the park on the Kirk murder. This is definitely worth a watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8QQTea3-qs

Posted by: Delurker at September 12, 2025 04:45 PM (NhiOW)

510 I've seen the comments that say that Tyler Robinson looks like Beto.

BUT.....

I think the guy is a dead ringer for John "Napoleon Dynamite" Heder.

Posted by: Orson at September 12, 2025 04:45 PM (dIske)

511 And then we can tell them which beliefs, specifically, justify murder to us.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 12, 2025 03:34 PM (GBKbO)

Arguably, the belief that they can murder me for my non-violent beliefs is the one I think they can be killed right back for.

Malcolm Reynolds had it right: Someone ever tries to kill you, you try to kill 'em right back!

Posted by: GWB at September 12, 2025 04:45 PM (RTQn+)

512 If it makes Glenn feel any better, I don’t blame all leftists for Kirk’s death, only those throwing around the term ‘Nazi’ for the last ten years, and those who didn’t repudiate their fellow travelers for using that term.

Posted by: Open Channel D at September 12, 2025 04:45 PM (eoQcy)

513
LizLem, you here? The CKE:

https://x.com/jamespriceglos/
status/1966548243677946213

It's way too long to quote, but it's an officer of the Oxford Union resigning in outrage against the slouching slob of a fuck -- AND PRESIDENT-ELECT -- who celebrated Charlie's death.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 12, 2025 04:45 PM (l6OhZ)

514 Keep in mind they did not shoot Kirk/celebrate his being shot because of politics. They are doing this because he disagreed with their belief system - IOW their religion.

Posted by: GWB at September 12, 2025 04:42 PM (RTQn+)
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Calling it a creed IMO keeps it cleaner.

Posted by: Axeman at September 12, 2025 04:45 PM (krQz2)

515 Go back in time and strangle Princip in his bed the night before he kills the Archduke.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 12, 2025 04:39 PM (GBKbO)

Kill the Archduke's grandmother as a baby.
Posted by: Warai-otokovitch at September 12, 2025 04:40 PM (06Hmj)

You're just going to get another Archduke that way, and it all starts over again.

They do say Hitler's main gripe was all the time travelers coming back, trying to kill him.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2025 04:45 PM (iW7Ee)

516 509 Stephen A. Smith knocks it out of the park on the Kirk murder. This is definitely worth a watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8QQTea3-qs

Posted by: Delurker at September 12, 2025 04:45 PM (NhiOW)

========

Is this a Sistah Soldier moment?

Or is Stephen Smith such a non-figure in national Democrat politics that it'll be forgotten in minutes?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 12, 2025 04:46 PM (GBKbO)

517 Well, so am I, and I'm a heathen Presbyterian.
Posted by: Bulg at September 12, 2025 04:39 PM

I lean toward a bit of Arianism, which makes me a heretic in my own church.
Posted by: toby928 at September 12, 2025 04:43 PM (jc0TO)

I'll defend you Bulg! Heathens are nonchristians. Presbyterians are Heretics.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 12, 2025 04:46 PM (8avO+)

518 >>> 439 Posted by: Pepperidge Farms

I am split 50/50 on your wonderful comment. I agree with you in spirit.

But my own eyes can't help but notice that in the last week alone, several bodies have littered the streets. 2 school children. A young refugee from a war torn country who came here seeking protection from violence. A young man who invited everyone who disagreed with him to come have a conversation with him.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 12, 2025 04:33 PM (Vvh2V)

To clarify, Pepperidge Farms, I certainly don't think you're trolling, and in fact I agree with much of what you're saying; it's just like I said - it only takes *one* side to start a fight. And then what do you do?

Posted by: Patriot Front at September 12, 2025 04:46 PM (ULPxl)

519 The Latinx does not exist; it is the fever-child of a white, libbie mind.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 12, 2025 04:42 PM (ynpvh)

La Raza long predates Latinx. They were trying to claw back the Mexican Cession some decades ago.
Posted by: Oldcat at September 12, 2025 04:44 PM (8avO+)

I live in a Hispanic majority town now... you will NEVER hear any of them using the term LatinX... they hate it.

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 12, 2025 04:46 PM (mP0Kj)

520 Oh FFS

sock fail!!!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 12, 2025 04:46 PM (ULPxl)

521 What I am waiting for is to find out of this creep had friends other than the one roommate. I read he was still living at home with his parents. So the roommate was from his failed one semester effort in college a few hours away from home?

One semester in college away from home, with a full scholarship for a high GPA in HS, tells me this shithead is a failure in life.

Probably weird, like Idaho Inmate #163214 who only talked to his Mother (he called her this). People avoided him because of weird vibes, I am guessing.

I would be surprised to see if he ever had a girlfriend, with his wonky eye. A failure at a lot of things. Possibly a bit schizo and simmering violence in believing the fascist lies (thanks, Dims, this does give you blood on your hands and empty souls).

The media, even with a photoshop lie floating about of him wearing a Trump tee shirt today, want you to believe he was GOP. A gun shootin' GOP because his parents voted GOP. Time will tell.

I hope he's pro-trans, myself, as I want that bowel movement sandblasted off the planet. But that's just me.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at September 12, 2025 04:46 PM (6PCLE)

522
Most fuckfaces out there will, for example, call anyone with a Trump sticker on their car a "hard Republican."

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 12, 2025 04:47 PM (O7j1V)

523 If it makes Glenn feel any better, I don’t blame all leftists for Kirk’s death, only those throwing around the term ‘Nazi’ for the last ten years, and those who didn’t repudiate their fellow travelers for using that term.
Posted by: Open Channel D at September 12, 2025 04:45 PM (eoQcy)
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Also, those who back the idea that you can punch somebody if you're really convinced they are a Nazi--whether or not you've studied fascism or Nazism at all.

If you identify them as a Nazi, they really, kinda are.

Posted by: Axeman at September 12, 2025 04:47 PM (krQz2)

524 You're just going to get another Archduke that way, and it all starts over again.

They do say Hitler's main gripe was all the time travelers coming back, trying to kill him.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2025 04:45 PM (iW7Ee)

What's that called, a causality loop?

Posted by: Thrawn at September 12, 2025 04:47 PM (9Ovst)

525 I’d like to go on record with the prediction that the left will learn nothing from this and will disgrace themselves again at the next opportunity. They just can’t stop virtue signaling and attention whoreing.

It’s who they are.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 12, 2025 04:47 PM (5VVEf)

526 504 I doubt that you can get them to spend more than a glance at "La Raza"--- literally "The Race"--and they are talking about the Latinx Race.

Posted by: Axeman at September 12, 2025 04:39 PM (krQz2)

The Latinx does not exist; it is the fever-child of a white, libbie mind.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 12, 2025 04:42 PM (ynpvh)

La Raza long predates Latinx. They were trying to claw back the Mexican Cession some decades ago.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 12, 2025 04:44 PM (8avO+)

Never said La Raza didn't exist, only the term Latinx is wholly made up by white libbies. The word does not exist in Spanish. Spanish, funny enough, requires words to have an assigned "sex", although the definite articles for some words are mixed up, e.g. el agua.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 12, 2025 04:47 PM (ynpvh)

527 Go back in time and strangle Princip in his bed the night before he kills the Archduke.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 12, 2025 04:39 PM


Give the Archduke's driver a map of the city.

Posted by: toby928 at September 12, 2025 04:48 PM (jc0TO)

528 Unrelated to anything else, but am I the only one who's noticed Charlie Kirk looked an awful lot like a young Morrissey?

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2025 04:48 PM (iW7Ee)

529 OK, I guess it's the coxswain who's in charge of the boat.

I was a land sailor, so some of the seagoing terms elude me.

Posted by: Bulg at September 12, 2025 04:48 PM (77rzZ)

530 Go back in time and strangle Princip in his bed the night before he kills the Archduke.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 12, 2025 04:39 PM (GBKbO)

Kill the Archduke's grandmother as a baby.
Posted by: Warai-otokovitch at September 12, 2025 04:40 PM (06Hmj)

You're just going to get another Archduke that way, and it all starts over again.

They do say Hitler's main gripe was all the time travelers coming back, trying to kill him.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2025 04:45 PM (iW7Ee)

He was in a group of 4-6 other guys who got pretty close to using their guns or grenades or whatever. They were pretty bummed, but the car left the destination, took a wrong turn and was trying to turn about right in front of Princip.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 12, 2025 04:48 PM (8avO+)

531 Give the Archduke's driver a map of the city.
Posted by: toby928 at September 12, 2025 04:48 PM (jc0TO)

Teach him how to drive a clutch.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2025 04:48 PM (iW7Ee)

532 It's a position on the ships roster I am fairly sure

Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2025 04:48 PM (+qU29)

533 They do say Hitler's main gripe was all the time travelers coming back, trying to kill him.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2025 04:45 PM


The Mossad agents.


*touches nose*

Posted by: toby928 at September 12, 2025 04:48 PM (jc0TO)

534 Sounds like the purge theory is one step closer to reality.

Posted by: sTevo at September 12, 2025 04:48 PM (HNXEw)

535 505 They call Trump Hitler.

It's it a subject of much conversation that if we had a time machine we might find it worthwhile to kill Hitler--even as a baby?!

You didn't need a time machine for Bushitler, and you don't need a time machine for Trump.

The key to lib rhetoric is evasion.
Posted by: Axeman

Even a cursory look at Trump shows he is the opposite of Hitler in every dimension. Still the Left persists in tying him to one of the most evil people to ever live, somebody that had to killed to stop him. It is that last part that matters, they call Trump Hitler because the next logical step is to assassinate him. Same goes for calling the rest of of us Nazis.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convicitions at September 12, 2025 04:44 PM (aJQjq)

They might shun their cousin Hitler, but they have a hard time giving up Lenin, Stalin, and Mao. I'd rather have Larry, Moe and Curly.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 12, 2025 04:49 PM (ynpvh)

536 Stephen A Smith comes in behind shoeonhead in opinions I seek to hear.

And I don't go looking for what shoeonhead has to say...though I am always happy to see her opinion trending towards the sane side of the spectrum from where she started.

Posted by: garrett at September 12, 2025 04:49 PM (l1TF7)

537 "God, you blow up a couple boats in the middle of the Pacific, and... i mean, It's like they were just looking for any reason, you know?"

Posted by: Warai-otokovitch at September 12, 2025 04:49 PM (06Hmj)

538 My law rules!

Posted by: Godwin at September 12, 2025 04:50 PM (HNXEw)

539 538 My law rules!
Posted by: Godwin at September 12, 2025 04:50 PM (HNXEw)

======

That's just what Hitler would say.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 12, 2025 04:50 PM (GBKbO)

540 Kill the Archduke's grandmother as a baby.
Posted by: Warai-otokovitch at September 12, 2025 04:40 PM (06Hmj)


yall should read Alfred Bester's "the Men who Murdered Mohommed". Professor finds wife kissing another man and invents a time machine to punish her by shooting her grandparents.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 12, 2025 04:50 PM (8avO+)

541 Give the Archduke's driver a map of the city.
Posted by: toby928

It wasn't the driver's fault. There was a change of plans, and he was not informed of it.

Personally, I think it was planned in Vienna. Franz Josef and Franz Ferdinand DID NOT get along.

Posted by: Bulg at September 12, 2025 04:50 PM (77rzZ)

542 Charlie was truly fearless

https://youtube.com/shorts/VEpag2nRaMA?si=8n8OFL8eeydgT0nR

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 12, 2025 04:50 PM (Vvh2V)

543 Catholics, Evangelicals, all part of the splintering of faith causing the Great Apostacy. Y'all are different-same trinitarian churches to us, the Restored Church of Jesus Christ and His Latter-Day Saints. Now, those fools with the rainbow flags on the altars & vestments, they aren't really Christian at all, they have allowed the Commandments of Men to overwhelm the Commandments of God. Boy will they be in for a surprise on the Day of Judgement!

Posted by: exdem13 FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT at September 12, 2025 04:51 PM (XjTSo)

544 He was in a group of 4-6 other guys who got pretty close to using their guns or grenades or whatever. They were pretty bummed, but the car left the destination, took a wrong turn and was trying to turn about right in front of Princip.
Posted by: Oldcat at September 12, 2025 04:48 PM (8avO+)

Like the least funny Benny Hill Yakety Sax bit.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2025 04:51 PM (iW7Ee)

545 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 12, 2025 04:46 PM (GBKbO)

His righteous anger at those celebrating the murder had me standing up and cheering.

If the Dems had a lick of sense, whcih they do not, they'd get Smith or someone just like him to run for POTUS. But they'd never do that. Stephen A. is the "right" color, but he's old-old school Dem and totally non-Woke, so he's not acceptable.

Posted by: Delurker at September 12, 2025 04:51 PM (NhiOW)

546 >>> 537 "God, you blow up a couple boats in the middle of the Pacific, and... i mean, It's like they were just looking for any reason, you know?"
Posted by: Warai-otokovitch at September 12, 2025 04:49 PM (06Hmj)

LMAO

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 12, 2025 04:51 PM (ULPxl)

547 I never understood the term Bush Hitler until I lernt a little more history.

Posted by: maths major at September 12, 2025 04:51 PM (HNXEw)

548 Unrelated to anything else, but am I the only one who's noticed Charlie Kirk looked an awful lot like a young Morrissey?
Posted by: BurtTC

I see no resemblance to Ed. Too much hair, for one thing.

Posted by: Bulg at September 12, 2025 04:51 PM (77rzZ)

549 They might shun their cousin Hitler, but they have a hard time giving up Lenin, Stalin, and Mao. I'd rather have Larry, Moe and Curly.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 12, 2025 04:49 PM (ynpvh)

One of their holy trinity even killed another.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 12, 2025 04:52 PM (8avO+)

550 Well, so am I, and I'm a heathen Presbyterian.
Posted by: Bulg at September 12, 2025 04:39 PM

I lean toward a bit of Arianism, which makes me a heretic in my own church.
Posted by: toby928 at September 12, 2025 04:43 PM (jc0TO)

I personally don't like Ariana Grande, that donut licker.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 12, 2025 04:52 PM (ynpvh)

551 Still the Left persists in tying [Trump] to one of the most evil people to ever live, somebody that had to killed to stop him. It is that last part that matters, they call Trump Hitler because the next logical step is to assassinate him. Same goes for calling the rest of of us Nazis.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convicitions at September 12, 2025 04:44 PM (aJQjq)
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It's not airtight. But it definitely rhymes.

Unfortunately, they demand airtight from us. Meanwhile they just need a string of associations to "prove" CK's killer was "right wing".

Posted by: Axeman at September 12, 2025 04:52 PM (krQz2)

552 "God, you blow up a couple boats in the middle of the Pacific, and... i mean, It's like they were just looking for any reason, you know?"
Posted by: Warai-otokovitch at September 12, 2025 04:49 PM (06Hmj)

Bad analogy. In that particular case it was arguably true.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at September 12, 2025 04:52 PM (zZu0s)

553 Most fuckfaces out there will, for example, call anyone with a Trump sticker on their car a "hard Republican."

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 12, 2025 04:47 PM (O7j1V)

As in, A Republican with booze in it?

...

I mean.... OK. Got me.

Posted by: Warai-otokovitch at September 12, 2025 04:52 PM (06Hmj)

554 >>If the Dems had a lick of sense, whcih they do not, they'd get Smith or someone just like him to run for POTUS. But they'd never do that. Stephen A. is the "right" color, but he's old-old school Dem and totally non-Woke, so he's not acceptable.


He often drops straight back into the Racism Argument. I don't dislike the guy...but he has some pretty heavily tinted lenses in that department.

Posted by: garrett at September 12, 2025 04:52 PM (l1TF7)

555 Musician, not commentator.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at September 12, 2025 04:53 PM (zZu0s)

556 552 "God, you blow up a couple boats in the middle of the Pacific, and... i mean, It's like they were just looking for any reason, you know?"
Posted by: Warai-otokovitch at September 12, 2025 04:49 PM (06Hmj)

Bad analogy. In that particular case it was arguably true.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at September 12, 2025 04:52 PM (zZu0s)

Shush, you, i'm trying to be piquant here.

Posted by: Warai-otokovitch at September 12, 2025 04:53 PM (06Hmj)

557 517 Well, so am I, and I'm a heathen Presbyterian.
Posted by: Bulg at September 12, 2025 04:39 PM

I lean toward a bit of Arianism, which makes me a heretic in my own church.
Posted by: toby928 at September 12, 2025 04:43 PM (jc0TO)

I'll defend you Bulg! Heathens are nonchristians. Presbyterians are Heretics.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 12, 2025 04:46 PM (8avO+)

Isn't that technically worse?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 12, 2025 04:53 PM (ynpvh)

558 >>> 547
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Posted by: maths major at September 12, 2025 04:51 PM (HNXEw)

Who let this guy in?!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 12, 2025 04:53 PM (ULPxl)

559 And speaking of going back in time to kill such-and-such a person. Never mind Hitler or some Balkan guy with a grudge or stuff like that. I'm 100% certain the world would be an inherently better place if I went back in time, intercepted James Wilkinson on his way to Congress with news of Saratoga, and shot him dead.

Posted by: exdem13 FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT at September 12, 2025 04:54 PM (XjTSo)

560 To clarify, Pepperidge Farms, I certainly don't think you're trolling, and in fact I agree with much of what you're saying; it's just like I said - it only takes *one* side to start a fight. And then what do you do?
Posted by: Patriot Front

We are already in a fight. I acknowledge that. A lot of big cities have neighborhoods that are almost warzones, after dark. And there are primal, causal reasons for that.

Charlie was on the offensive, trying to "take back" the ground that the Leftist Academics thought they had controlled at universities. He was a direct challenge to them. And elsewhere. And that's why they hated him.
We can stand by and let everything go to shit, and then a real Civil War may just happen, and we (the conservative right) just may lose. I don't know.

Charlie Kirk fought with ideas, great ideas, and Donald Trump winning in 2024 was a result of a lot of work by Turning Point, Charlie's organization, to change minds and get out the vote. That's the work that has to go on, and people have to pick up the pieces after Charlie has fallen. And we can win doing this. A real victory.

Posted by: Pepperidge Farms remembers at September 12, 2025 04:54 PM (vcOmj)

561 I'm so old I remember these same people probably calling for the deaths and/or imprisonment of people who wouldn't get the clot shot.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 12, 2025 04:54 PM (rvwwT)

562 Go back and strangle that m-effer Marx in his cradle.

Posted by: Bulg at September 12, 2025 04:55 PM (77rzZ)

563 It wasn't the driver's fault. There was a change of plans, and he was not informed of it.

Personally, I think it was planned in Vienna. Franz Josef and Franz Ferdinand DID NOT get along.
Posted by: Bulg at September 12, 2025 04:50 PM (77rzZ)

Sort of similar, RFK was not supposed to go out through the kitchen galley. He was supposed to turn right into the stairs leading to the ballroom.

He was led toward the shooting site by the "bodyguard" holding his left arm. That was Thane Cesar, who got his job at the hotel a couple weeks earlier, and never went back afterwards.

I know it will shock everyone, but Thane had provable ties to... wait for it.....

CIA.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2025 04:55 PM (iW7Ee)

564 561 I'm so old I remember these same people probably calling for the deaths and/or imprisonment of people who wouldn't get the clot shot.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 12, 2025 04:54 PM (rvwwT)

You remember correctly

Posted by: It's me donna at September 12, 2025 04:55 PM (VE6XX)

565 THIS. This has now become very personal for Trump. I believe he will do whatever is necessary to take apart Antifa, and their corporate/nonprofit backers.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 12, 2025 04:28 PM (0CU3H)

In a way, when leftists say there is no Antifa they’re right. Every Democrat is Antifa. It is an idea. The idea is kill anyone you do t agree with.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at September 12, 2025 04:55 PM (AvVQO)

566 1 guy acted alone and they want to go to war? It's like they just were looking for any reason.

The instant after the shot rang out one lefty guy there in the audience in front of Kirk, watching him bleed out, turned around and started celebrating.

Not only are these people ghouls they know they are perfectly safe from conservatives.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 12, 2025 04:55 PM (sKqQm)

567 I hate to post a political victory lap over Kirk's murder, but I think the Dem/media behavior has to be viewed in that light.

The Dems have lost a generation of voters with this event, and they know it, and this is them trying to recover that relationship. But it won't work and the kids really don't need us to point it out.

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at September 12, 2025 04:55 PM (GD2xa)

568 >>> 556
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Bad analogy. In that particular case it was arguably true.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at September 12, 2025 04:52 PM (zZu0s)

Shush, you, i'm trying to be piquant here.
Posted by: Warai-otokovitch at September 12, 2025 04:53 PM (06Hmj)

I thought you meant Pearl Harbor, not... what, the boat that was cruising near Vietnam?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 12, 2025 04:55 PM (ULPxl)

569
Lefties do that shit. Go back and read accounts from the 60s to 80s with bombings etc. also fairly common in European and Latin American political history.

Posted by: whig's phone at September 12, 2025 04:31 PM (G6IVv)




Even when the commies or mohammedans kick out the right-wing authoritarians (or moderates), they still hunt down the leaders they defeated in exile. Just ask Somoza from Nicaragua or Bakhtiar from Iran as two examples.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 12, 2025 04:56 PM (y9nCu)

570 Never said La Raza didn't exist, only the term Latinx is wholly made up by white libbies. The word does not exist in Spanish. Spanish, funny enough, requires words to have an assigned "sex", although the definite articles for some words are mixed up, e.g. el agua.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 12, 2025 04:47 PM (ynpvh)
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I know. But it's fun to say. I never use it outside of being ironic.

And always pronounce it la-tinks.

Posted by: Axeman at September 12, 2025 04:56 PM (krQz2)

571 if I went back in time, intercepted James Wilkinson on his way to Congress with news of Saratoga, and shot him dead.
Posted by: exdem13 FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT

He was definitely a burr under the sale.

Posted by: Bulg at September 12, 2025 04:56 PM (77rzZ)

572 Unrelated to anything else, but am I the only one who's noticed Charlie Kirk looked an awful lot like a young Morrissey?
Posted by: BurtTC

I see no resemblance to Ed. Too much hair, for one thing.
Posted by: Bulg at September 12, 2025 04:51 PM (77rzZ)

Heaven knows I'm miserable now.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2025 04:56 PM (iW7Ee)

573 I'll defend you Bulg! Heathens are nonchristians. Presbyterians are Heretics.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 12, 2025 04:46 PM (8avO+)

Isn't that technically worse?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 12, 2025 04:53 PM (ynpvh)

Yes. The heathen may not know christ, but follow the path. A heretic knowingly rejects it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at September 12, 2025 04:56 PM (zZu0s)

574 Jim Morrison's dad.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 12, 2025 04:57 PM (4L9nF)

575 Sort of similar, RFK was not supposed to go out through the kitchen galley. He was supposed to turn right into the stairs leading to the ballroom.

He was led toward the shooting site by the "bodyguard" holding his left arm. That was Thane Cesar, who got his job at the hotel a couple weeks earlier, and never went back afterwards.

I know it will shock everyone, but Thane had provable ties to... wait for it.....

CIA.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2025 04:55 PM (iW7Ee)

I might have my rights and lefts mixed up.

Which would be apropos to this post.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2025 04:57 PM (iW7Ee)

576 I thought you meant Pearl Harbor, not... what, the boat that was cruising near Vietnam?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 12, 2025 04:55 PM (ULPxl)

No, he is talking about Pearl Harbor- as was I.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at September 12, 2025 04:58 PM (zZu0s)

577 Shush, you, i'm trying to be piquant here.
Posted by: Warai-otokovitch at September 12, 2025 04:53 PM (06Hmj)

I thought you meant Pearl Harbor, not... what, the boat that was cruising near Vietnam?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 12, 2025 04:55 PM (ULPxl)

I did. There's an argument to be made that the US was itching for an excuse to go whomp Japan for being such a pain in the dick in the Pacific, and Pearl was pretty much a gift-wrapped war for us.

Posted by: Warai-otokovitch at September 12, 2025 04:58 PM (06Hmj)

578 DU has gone dark, so you know things are unsettled on the left now.

Posted by: Piper at September 12, 2025 04:58 PM (pZEOD)

579 562 Go back and strangle that m-effer Marx in his cradle.

Posted by: Bulg at September 12, 2025 04:55 PM (77rzZ)

Damn, I knew that Groucho's humor wasn't for everybody...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 12, 2025 04:58 PM (ynpvh)

580 Shush, you, i'm trying to be piquant here.
Posted by: Warai-otokovitch at September 12, 2025 04:53 PM (06Hmj)

You need to unbosom yourself of your piquancy.

Posted by: Bulg at September 12, 2025 04:58 PM (77rzZ)

581
Personally, I think it was planned in Vienna. Franz Josef and Franz Ferdinand DID NOT get along.
Posted by: Bulg at September 12, 2025 04:50 PM (77rzZ)

Vienna wasn't much into planning. So I doubt it.

To provoke war they sent a humiliating ultimatum to Serbia, expecting them to defy it. But they accepted it aside from a clause that violated their constitution. But they said Austrian investigators could follow along with the search for the terror cell instead of running it alone.

So they were stuck, and declared war anyhow. Then they lost their invasion of Serbia.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 12, 2025 04:58 PM (8avO+)

582 Unrelated to anything else, but am I the only one who's noticed Charlie Kirk looked an awful lot like a young Morrissey?



He did have a lot of stitches to wear though.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at September 12, 2025 04:59 PM (AvVQO)

583 It's worth recalling when none other than Jane Fonda - Hanoi Jane, herself - hobbled her ancient ass onto the stage of The View and literally advocated for the use of "murder" in their fight to allow the mass carnage of abortion. Because pregnancy is a disease to this anti-human degenerates.

Posted by: MrExcitement at September 12, 2025 04:59 PM (hOOi9)

584 As a hard Republican with Trump bumper stickers on my truck, when someone shoots up innocent people anywhere for whatever bullshit reason, I'm relieved when the murderous bastard is caught or better yet killed. I don't celebrate the death of the people they killed.

That's the difference.

Posted by: ErikInTexas at September 12, 2025 04:59 PM (URhKg)

585 - Friend just said they're evacuating entire neighborhood around shooters house.
They haven't said why.

Posted by: TeeJ at September 12, 2025 04:59 PM (eDPLA)

586 564 561 I'm so old I remember these same people probably calling for the deaths and/or imprisonment of people who wouldn't get the clot shot.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 12, 2025 04:54 PM (rvwwT)

You remember correctly

Posted by: It's me donna at September 12, 2025 04:55 PM (VE6XX)

AND those that wouldn't wear masks. They were called murderers.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 12, 2025 04:59 PM (ynpvh)

587 Glenn's forgetting that the first victim of Alinsky was the left itself. The far-left are essentially sociopaths who have only one principle: the will to power. What the left in general and Glenn in particular *should* have done was gatekeep leftist spheres from anyone to the left of James Lindsay. While sociopaths can range the political spectrum, entryism into leftist spheres was easier to pull off by manipulating the left's core value of "tolerance". (Which naturally they jettisoned the moment they gained power) That wasn't possible in the same way on the right, where freedom of association was prioritized.

I don't blame the younger center-left (like sh0e) because most of them were too young to have made a difference or weren't yet in the political sphere. Glenn's old enough to have known better and stopped it, but he was too focused on apposing the right and treated the sociopaths like allies rather than kicking them back to /leftypol/. Well, now his pet scorpion stung him. Gosh, who'dathunk it?

And anyone who claims Lindsay is "far-right" is precisely the sort of sociopath who should have been gatekept and left to schizopost on weirdo forums like DU.

Posted by: Saber Alter at September 12, 2025 04:59 PM (3TmQA)

588 Lefties do that shit. Go back and read accounts from the 60s to 80s with bombings etc. also fairly common in European and Latin American political history.

Posted by: whig's phone at September 12, 2025 04:31 PM (G6IVv)
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The liberals in Russia tolerated the revolutionaries blowing up trains and killing hundreds.

All part of progress. Meanwhile the radicals were saying "The liberals get the bullet, too".

This is not the first time in history the liberals stuck with the leftist ideologues to near the bitter end.

So I don't give a fuck what they want to call themselves. If you like "liberalism" help us to conserve the liberal tradition.

Posted by: Axeman at September 12, 2025 04:59 PM (krQz2)

589 Never said La Raza didn't exist, only the term Latinx is wholly made up by white libbies.
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Los Latinx son mis amigox

Posted by: Peggy Hill at September 12, 2025 05:00 PM (X1sEt)

590
Charlie Kirk fought with ideas, great ideas, and Donald Trump winning in 2024 was a result of a lot of work by Turning Point, Charlie's organization, to change minds and get out the vote. That's the work that has to go on, and people have to pick up the pieces after Charlie has fallen. And we can win doing this. A real victory.
Posted by: Pepperidge Farms remembers

===============

I'm with you, PFR. Charlie himself is irreplaceable, but we must do our best to continue his legacy, not betray it.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 12, 2025 05:00 PM (l6OhZ)

591 522
Most fuckfaces out there will, for example, call anyone with a Trump sticker on their car a "hard Republican."
*******
Well, for those of us who are Republicans, and who sincerely voted for Trump as the #1 man for the USA instead of just being the (R) candidate.... Yes, yes we are hard Republicans, and hard men & women at that. Although for the past eight years or so I'd say the "hard" part is more relevant than the "Republican" part. I'm more MAGA than GOP these days.

Posted by: exdem13 FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT at September 12, 2025 05:00 PM (XjTSo)

592 Communists started calling their former partners Fascists when Germany attacked Russia
It has been the go to calling opponents Fascists
I.e. Antifa is anti- Fascists

Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2025 05:00 PM (+qU29)

593 I personally don't like Ariana Grande, that donut licker.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 12, 2025 04:52 PM (ynpvh)

It appears Ariana Grande doesn't much like Ariana Grande either.

She's wasting away. There's speculation as to whether she's having healthy fat removed from her body, or she's anorexic.

I'm not sure it much matters.

However, if she does need some body fat, I have a big fat injection device.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2025 05:01 PM (iW7Ee)

594 I did. There's an argument to be made that the US was itching for an excuse to go whomp Japan for being such a pain in the dick in the Pacific, and Pearl was pretty much a gift-wrapped war for us.
Posted by: Warai-otokovitch at September 12, 2025 04:58 PM (06Hmj)

Its a bad one. A lot of Naval construction was coming on line in some months and the Essex carriers were a year of so away. Every day of peace was one fewer day Japan had near parity to US forces.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 12, 2025 05:01 PM (8avO+)

595 Posted by: Saber Alter at September 12, 2025 04:59 PM (3TmQA)
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I'm amazed that Greenwald has gone back to associating non-liberal leftism with liberals in the "liberal-left" term he used.

Posted by: Axeman at September 12, 2025 05:02 PM (krQz2)

596 Only surprised Glee Greenwald didn't blame Israel

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at September 12, 2025 05:02 PM (X1sEt)

597 589 Never said La Raza didn't exist, only the term Latinx is wholly made up by white libbies.
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Los Latinx son mis amigox

Posted by: Peggy Hill at September 12, 2025 05:00 PM (X1sEt)

that would be amigx...LOL

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 12, 2025 05:02 PM (ynpvh)

598 >>> 590
Charlie Kirk fought with ideas, great ideas, and Donald Trump winning in 2024 was a result of a lot of work by Turning Point, Charlie's organization, to change minds and get out the vote. That's the work that has to go on, and people have to pick up the pieces after Charlie has fallen. And we can win doing this. A real victory.
Posted by: Pepperidge Farms remembers

===============

I'm with you, PFR. Charlie himself is irreplaceable, but we must do our best to continue his legacy, not betray it.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 12, 2025 05:00 PM (l6OhZ)

I'm still not disagreeing with the general premise. But it should also be recognized that there can come a point at which talking won't work any more. Self-defense is *not* a betrayal of CK or anyone like him.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 12, 2025 05:02 PM (ULPxl)

599 By some accounts Team Blue was down to 18%...before this.
I want to know how much practice firing he got and where.

Posted by: torabora at September 12, 2025 05:03 PM (+LXmR)

600 The thing to remember folks is these people always believed this. The only difference is now they say it out loud and proud.
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And for every one of them that did this time, there ae three more who will 'speak truth to power' the same way next time.

Posted by: Methos at September 12, 2025 05:03 PM (zLwRl)

601 NOOD

week in woke

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 12, 2025 05:03 PM (ULPxl)

602 My understanding is that the Buffalo and El Paso shootings were by leftists.

Posted by: Don at September 12, 2025 05:03 PM (wwKHQ)

603 Unrelated to anything else, but am I the only one who's noticed Charlie Kirk looked an awful lot like a young Morrissey?



He did have a lot of stitches to wear though.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at September 12, 2025 04:59 PM (AvVQO)

He got confused and killed a nun, he can't help the way he feels!

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2025 05:03 PM (iW7Ee)

604 It's worth recalling when none other than Jane Fonda - Hanoi Jane, herself - hobbled her ancient ass onto the stage of The View and literally advocated for the use of "murder" in their fight to allow the mass carnage of abortion. Because pregnancy is a disease to this anti-human degenerates.
Posted by: MrExcitement

Jane Fonda is a terrible person, but at this point in time, has virtually no influence on anyone. She has already condemned herself to whatever fate awaits her.
The View are just simple-minded, empty headed crones, who spout off their nonsense and idiocy to their true-believer audience. Their actual amount of real influence is small, just pumping up their simpleton viewers. I am sure that this guy that allegedly shot Charlie Kirk was NOT a regular watcher of "The View", or even knows anything about Jane Fonda.

Posted by: Pepperidge Farms remembers at September 12, 2025 05:03 PM (vcOmj)

605 This is not the first time in history the liberals stuck with the leftist ideologues to near the bitter end.

So I don't give a fuck what they want to call themselves. If you like "liberalism" help us to conserve the liberal tradition.
Posted by: Axeman at September 12, 2025 04:59 PM (krQz2)

The only "liberal" forces on earth at the time were America and the Anglosphere. Liberalism had no ally against the Monarch outside of the revolutionaries.

Why would they have hitched their wagon to a king they themselves wanted dead, rather than to a force who at least nominally were fighting for the same goal, an end to monarchy and feudal-style permanent class structures?

Posted by: Warai-otokovitch at September 12, 2025 05:03 PM (06Hmj)

606 Nood. Head on upstairs, all.

Posted by: Nazdar at September 12, 2025 05:04 PM (NcvvS)

607 Communists started calling their former partners Fascists when Germany attacked Russia
It has been the go to calling opponents Fascists
I.e. Antifa is anti- Fascists
Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2025 05:00 PM (+qU29)

The Italian version *were* named Fascists by themselves, after the Roman symbol of state power. Every magistrate had a guy carry one behind - sticks bound together to show strength in unity. If out of the city he had capital punishment rights and an axe was bundled in there too.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 12, 2025 05:04 PM (8avO+)

608 >>>AND PRESIDENT-ELECT -- who celebrated Charlie's death.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
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He should have certified/published the president elect's statement from source.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2025 05:04 PM (aWmr1)

609
DU has gone dark, so you know things are unsettled on the left now.
Posted by: Piper

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Interesting.

And in regards to violence vs The Charlie Way, I AM seeing encouraging signs of The Charlie Kirk Effect out there. Principled reactions to that death-cult DEI POS who's set to head up the Oxford Union is one example. People are restoring honor to these corrupted institutions where possible, and where it's not -- they are resigning. At least they're no longer willing to be part of the disgrace.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 12, 2025 05:04 PM (l6OhZ)

610 From a grifting black woman elitist of the donk party:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJCDe7vdFfw

Maxine Waters inciting violence and CNN carrying the message far and wide.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at September 12, 2025 05:07 PM (17s+e)

611 I never did anything to anybody to make them want to kill me, therefore anybody who wants to kill me is crazy , evil, or both.

Posted by: Eromero at September 12, 2025 05:08 PM (jgmnb)

612 561 I'm so old I remember these same people probably calling for the deaths and/or imprisonment of people who wouldn't get the clot shot.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 12, 2025 04:54 PM (rvwwT)


Is this a bad time for me to confess that I really enjoyed going to the funeral of such a person, who was married to one of my relatives (who was no different)?

I didn't openly celebrate, like the current assholes, but there was a certain satisfaction to the fact that this health nut died for a heart problem that was probably from the jab that he would have forced me to take if he could have.

But it was more than that, because it was a celebration of life from his cycling friends (who were not insane nutjobs like him). I didn't know him hardly at all; some of their stories were pretty funny and cute. Tragic for the relative, and their two kids though - just barely grown up.

Posted by: MrExcitement at September 12, 2025 05:11 PM (hOOi9)

613 If we only say national socialist and Italian national socialist and not say nazi and fascist, can we reshape the political vocabulary of our country?

Posted by: Goatweed at September 12, 2025 05:13 PM (jK3NL)

614 577

I did. There's an argument to be made that the US was itching for an excuse to go whomp Japan for being such a pain in the dick in the Pacific, and Pearl was pretty much a gift-wrapped war for us.
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The events of Pearl Harbor obscure the diplomatic situation that the USA & Imperial Japan were ready to break off relations & prepare for war in December 1941. the meeting in DC was the final scheduled ultimatum from Japan. The war faction used it as the stalking horse for Yamamoto's Pearl Harbor strike, but due to a transcription snafu the attack preceded the meeting by an hour instead of following it by an hour. But in an alternate history where Yamamoto's plan didn't get adapted, FDR announced on December 9 that the USA & Japan had failed to negotiate a peace, and war with Japan was iminent. Then on December 10 Kimmel got orders from DC to deploy the fleet to the Phillipines to counter a likely Japanese assault. Three carrier groups and the main force centered on eight battleships put to sea in a majestic display of force!

Posted by: exdem13 FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT at September 12, 2025 05:16 PM (XjTSo)

615 BTW…this statistic the Left keeps throwing around about the right committing most of the political violence in this country comes from the ADL & SPLC. It’s complete BS. Their methodology whitewashes progressive violence when there’s not an explicit political manifesto, and lumps entire categories of violence on the right, even when they bear no resemblance to conservatism, e.g. attacks on Jews / synagogues. Black on white crime is similarly disregarded as political even when it is.

Posted by: SMFH at September 12, 2025 05:25 PM (QnBrD)

616 Indeed, sir.

"No, Gleen, it's not the same. We are not attacking the left for having differences of political opinion. We are not attacking them for having weird beliefs.

We are attacking them for celebrating assassination and murder. We are attacking them for calling for the next "pew pew" against the President Donald Trump."

Posted by: Danimal28 at September 12, 2025 05:30 PM (mNOhh)

617 The best part of waking up, is FAFO in your cup!

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 12, 2025 05:45 PM (Dv3i1)

618 No, Gleen, it's not the same. We are not attacking the left for having differences of political opinion. We are not attacking them for having weird beliefs.

We are attacking them for celebrating assassination and murder. We are attacking them for calling for the next "pew pew" against the President Donald Trump.

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Glenn Greenwald is a lefty and lefties always get it wrong. We can no longer indulge these people simply for getting it wrong, our lives and those of our children depend on it.

Posted by: Decaf at September 12, 2025 05:46 PM (unUNN)

619 Funny how Glenn Greenwald's first instinct is not to castigate those on his side for celebrating but those on our side for understanding correctly what is happening. A lefty is always a lefty.

Posted by: Decaf at September 12, 2025 05:48 PM (unUNN)

620 The left is putting out T shirts with a mortally wounded Kirk and the words: "Debate this".


That perfectly encapsulates the left. Their idea of winning a debate is violence.
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As horrible as this is, now imagine if they had succeeded killing Trump.

Posted by: Smellslikevictory at September 12, 2025 06:10 PM (jPdyB)

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