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Wednesday Morning Rant
This is for three reasons. First is inflation. Inflation is not really tamed and is gearing up to make a comeback even in a rosy scenario where Trump wins or Congress acts to obviate the problem. The Producer Price Index (PPI) is a leading indicator, and CPI usually follows it a quarter or two later. CPI has come down nicely, but the PPI is red hot. PPI came in at +0.9% in July, and the annualized rate is 3.3% so far for this year. That is going to cause movement in the CPI and it is baked in at this point. That is probably manageable on its own, but it won't remain manageable if this decision goes the wrong way.
The government is still wildly overspending, but that overspending has been mitigated to some degree by the tariffs. They have raised hundreds of billions of dollars so far and are on track to bring in at least half a trillion dollars during the first full fiscal year of the tariff regime (that is, the year that is about to start). If the tariffs are deemed illegal, that's a mighty big hole in the budget - and a great reservoir of inflation. Congress is not going to cut that much spending out if the tariffs go away, and the difference will go right into inflation. A rising problem gets worse, and gets worse immediately. If found to be illegal, the government will likely have to pay some or all of those revenues back - representing a huge, immediate hit. But that's just the fiscal condition and inflation. The wider business environment will also tailspin because of this. What Trump did with the tariff regime was - and remains, though less so - hugely disruptive. Trump introduced a whole heap of brand new policy risks when he went down this road. They were worth it, but a sudden reversal introduces far more policy risks. The ground that just started to solidify turns back into quicksand. Do businesses need to sue to get money back? Do they need to reserve for future changes? Will there be a new tariff regime that comes out of it? When, if so? How will it work? Business projections will have to go in the trash and everyone gets to start over in the face of countless unknowns. That will not help inflation, employment or investment. Economics aside, Trump's tariffs have only partly been an economic or fiscal exercise. They are the means through which Trump has pursued his comprehensive revamp of American foreign policy. Trump's spectacular foreign policy achievements are courtesy, in large part, of the tariff cudgel. This administration has been bringing rivals to heel and adversaries to the bargaining table, and tariffs are at the dead center of much of it. They are key to a lot of Trump's winning, winning, winning. There is no tool in his toolbox more powerful. The fortunes of his movement ride on tariffs to the same degree. The consequences of tearing down Trump's tariff regime is the removal of his most powerful foreign policy weapon and incentive. Progress stops dead in its tracks and many prior wins reverse. I don't know that it would kill the movement, but it would bea brutal blow. Congress can act to mitigate these risks, and do it now - before the case gets to SCOTUS. There are a couple of options. Congress could immediately codify Trump's tariff agreements into legislation. Even if they were found to be improper, they are law now and the worst case is a refund and a big hit to this year's budget balance. Better would be revisions, if necessary and workable, to the Tariff Act to more explicitly delegate authority to Trump. Either could have a sunset built-in - say, for 2027 - to enable the con men on the Hill to get stupendously rich during the political theater that will surely be involved in its renewal or not. There is a gigantic opportunity for Congressional corruption and enrichment in this, and they can come out looking like heroes to the base in the short term. One shouldn't have to consider the question of how major and important decisions with tremendous consequences on all aspects of the country's fiscal health, economic health and political environment directly enrich Congressmen, but we have the Congress we have and so the question needs to be considered. Fixing this before it blows up will provide ample potential for great wealth, power and skulduggery for the Critters, with the bonus of a huge improvement in short-term popularity going into a midterm. Anyone who worries about the risks of a non-Trump getting this same power - a real risk if SCOTUS rules that Trump overstepped - can point (and point legitimately) to the same sunset provisions that will so greatly enrich them in a couple of years. There is plenty of upside for Congress. The tariffs - either themselves, or via an enabling act they hand to Trump - will provide much more opportunity for enrichment and power than a CR or tax law and they can do it to thunderous applause and surging popularity. And they should. Congress can remove these risks and personally gain in what is essentially a no-lose scenario. If Trump wins at SCOTUS, none of it mattered and it was all just so much wasted and irrelevant effort, but they can still crow about having done the right thing all way into the midterms. The only reason not to codify a winning strategy, set the playing field for many exciting future corruption opportunities and win much new support is an abject hatred of Donald Trump, his supporters and everything they desire. Which is why the ball is going stay firmly in SCOTUS' court.Comments
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Posted by: Bulg at September 03, 2025 11:02 AM (77rzZ)
Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at September 03, 2025 11:02 AM (4XKXl)
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Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at September 03, 2025 11:02 AM (1Y10s)
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Well, I'll be a monkey's uncle. Hey, Mannix!
Posted by: Bulg at September 03, 2025 11:02 AM (77rzZ)
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No, I don't lisp.
Posted by: Firth at September 03, 2025 11:03 AM (jYVFH)
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The gov, like police, is not your friend.
Posted by: paTroll at September 03, 2025 11:05 AM (jYVFH)
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Top 10! Now to read the article.
Posted by: NR Pax at September 03, 2025 11:06 AM (BpO1e)
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and Congress does nothing
And this is one of the biggest problems we face. A Congress that wants to shirk their duty when it comes to the things they actually should be doing, while doing plenty of things they shouldn't be doing.
And this is one of the biggest problems we face. A Congress that wants to shirk their duty when it comes to the things they actually should be doing, while doing plenty of things they shouldn't be doing.
Posted by: GWB at September 03, 2025 11:07 AM (RTQn+)
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Fucking judges are a problem.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 03, 2025 11:08 AM (snZF9)
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Congress has explicitly passed legislation that allows The President to jigger with tariffs under certain conditions, the President is exercising his authority in compliance with the laws, my bet is SCOTUS says the President is acting within the law and if Congress doesn't like what the President is doing, they are free to re-write the law.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 03, 2025 11:08 AM (XV/Pl)
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Congress is not going to cut that much spending out if the tariffs go away, and the difference will go right into inflation.
Also, this is a feature, not a bug, for a large number of the folks involved.
Also, this is a feature, not a bug, for a large number of the folks involved.
Posted by: GWB at September 03, 2025 11:08 AM (RTQn+)
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All those words... grok, summarize.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 03, 2025 11:09 AM (Q4IgG)
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8 and Congress does nothing ...for us 'merikans, but bombs the shit out of the ME and opens the boarders to slave labor. FIFY.
Posted by: paTroll at September 03, 2025 11:09 AM (jYVFH)
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Smug California punk who thought he was being cute by towing away an ICE vehicle while they were making an arrest has caught a federal rap of stealing government property. Looking at 10 years. I'm sure he won't get it, not with a California jury, but it sure wiped the smug right off his face.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 03, 2025 11:09 AM (qpyNK)
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To continue a conversation from last thread - I think it's clear that the British Government has lost the Mandate of Heaven, as the Chinese would say. Their fall is guaranteed; the only question is the timing and the method.
The longer it takes, the more destructive it will be.
The longer it takes, the more destructive it will be.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 03, 2025 11:09 AM (uWKK8)
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I'm not as nearly worried about this. If the SC says Trump can't impose tariffs using this authority, he will find another. Yes, it will be a blow to his authority and success rate, but he's suffered big defeats before.
I do expect the SC to side with him, but with Roberts and ACB you never know.
I think the continued success of catapulting Aztec cannibal cocksuckers back over the border is a far more pressing issue. That truly is a battle for the heart and soul of the country, and a defeat means the end of the country as we know it. Tariffs are important but I don't see them as an existential threat.
I do expect the SC to side with him, but with Roberts and ACB you never know.
I think the continued success of catapulting Aztec cannibal cocksuckers back over the border is a far more pressing issue. That truly is a battle for the heart and soul of the country, and a defeat means the end of the country as we know it. Tariffs are important but I don't see them as an existential threat.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 03, 2025 11:09 AM (iFTx/)
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10 Congress has explicitly passed legislation that allows The President to jigger with tariffs under certain conditions, the President is exercising his authority in compliance with the laws, my bet is SCOTUS says the President is acting within the law and if Congress doesn't like what the President is doing, they are free to re-write the law.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 03, 2025 11:08 AM (XV/Pl)
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That's a nice middle ground between, "Shut the fuck up," from Alito and Thomas and Roberts' "let's not get our hands dirty."
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 03, 2025 11:08 AM (XV/Pl)
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That's a nice middle ground between, "Shut the fuck up," from Alito and Thomas and Roberts' "let's not get our hands dirty."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at September 03, 2025 11:09 AM (GBKbO)
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‘ The gov, like police, is not your friend.’
No. They sure as hell aren’t. Especially the judiciary.
‘ The gov, like police, is not your friend.’
No. They sure as hell aren’t. Especially the judiciary.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 03, 2025 11:10 AM (jbnUc)
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at September 03, 2025 11:12 AM (NFX2v)
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Congress has explicitly passed legislation that allows The President to jigger with tariffs under certain conditions, the President is exercising his authority in compliance with the laws, my bet is SCOTUS says the President is acting within the law and if Congress doesn't like what the President is doing, they are free to re-write the law.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 03, 2025 11:08 AM (XV/Pl)
Thats pretty much how I read it. The president can act in certain circumstances like national security and economic emergency. Looking around at the debt and the army of darkness appearing around the globe, I think both apply here.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 03, 2025 11:08 AM (XV/Pl)
Thats pretty much how I read it. The president can act in certain circumstances like national security and economic emergency. Looking around at the debt and the army of darkness appearing around the globe, I think both apply here.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 03, 2025 11:13 AM (snZF9)
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I think Congress will act in a manner that will hamstring Trump's administration. They target Trump, but it's the whole administration that gets pilloried.
Oh, and us. They hate Trump, but they hate us too. It's a shame they don't understand nor realize how much we despise them back.
Oh, and us. They hate Trump, but they hate us too. It's a shame they don't understand nor realize how much we despise them back.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 03, 2025 11:14 AM (Q4IgG)
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If the tariffs are deemed illegal, that's a mighty big hole in the budget - and a great reservoir of inflation.
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I’m a little unclear what you mean here. I think I understand. But Apples and Aircraft carriers in any case. Tariffs have nothing at all to do with monetary inflation.
Of course the fake news and “expert nobel prize winning contractor economists” will try to conflate.
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I’m a little unclear what you mean here. I think I understand. But Apples and Aircraft carriers in any case. Tariffs have nothing at all to do with monetary inflation.
Of course the fake news and “expert nobel prize winning contractor economists” will try to conflate.
Posted by: Common Tater at September 03, 2025 11:14 AM (6YGnp)
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Whole lotta jiggering going on around heah...
Posted by: Are we still allowed to use that word? at September 03, 2025 11:14 AM (O1fjF)
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@17
>>That's a nice middle ground between, "Shut the fuck up," from Alito and Thomas and Roberts' "let's not get our hands dirty."
The law says the president can adjust tariffs in an "emergency" situation, congress never defines what an emergency situation, the president says this is an emergency, who are the courts or congress to tell the unitary executive, absent clear statutory guidelines that his interpretation of what constitutes an emergency is unlawful?
>>That's a nice middle ground between, "Shut the fuck up," from Alito and Thomas and Roberts' "let's not get our hands dirty."
The law says the president can adjust tariffs in an "emergency" situation, congress never defines what an emergency situation, the president says this is an emergency, who are the courts or congress to tell the unitary executive, absent clear statutory guidelines that his interpretation of what constitutes an emergency is unlawful?
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 03, 2025 11:15 AM (XV/Pl)
Posted by: man at September 03, 2025 11:15 AM (tubbA)
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The President addressed the congressional role concerning tariffs yesterday. A reporter asked him a question congressional approval for the current tariff regime. DJT responded that he would have done that, except he couldn't get 60 votes to bring the tariff endorsements up for a floor vote. So, the problem are the Senate cloture rules and the Dems would rather play politics than participate in a national financial crisis.
Posted by: mrp at September 03, 2025 11:15 AM (rj6Yv)
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‘ It's a shame they don't understand nor realize how much we despise them back.’
I hope I live long to see them find out.
‘ It's a shame they don't understand nor realize how much we despise them back.’
I hope I live long to see them find out.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 03, 2025 11:15 AM (jbnUc)
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if Congress doesn't like what the President is doing, they are free to re-write the law.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 03, 2025 11:08 AM (XV/Pl)
Wouldn't this be a great place for Chevron deference?
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 03, 2025 11:08 AM (XV/Pl)
Wouldn't this be a great place for Chevron deference?
Posted by: GWB at September 03, 2025 11:15 AM (RTQn+)
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22 I’m a little unclear what you mean here. I think I understand. But Apples and Aircraft carriers in any case. Tariffs have nothing at all to do with monetary inflation.
Of course the fake news and “expert nobel prize winning contractor economists” will try to conflate.
Posted by: Common Tater at September 03, 2025 11:14 AM (6YGnp)
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There is probably some minor deflationary effects to tariffs, making import prices higher which then restricts demand which then lowers the flow of money in the system.
But it's going to be minor, probably immaterial for an economy of our size.
Of course the fake news and “expert nobel prize winning contractor economists” will try to conflate.
Posted by: Common Tater at September 03, 2025 11:14 AM (6YGnp)
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There is probably some minor deflationary effects to tariffs, making import prices higher which then restricts demand which then lowers the flow of money in the system.
But it's going to be minor, probably immaterial for an economy of our size.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at September 03, 2025 11:16 AM (GBKbO)
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and Congress does nothing
And this is one of the biggest problems we face. A Congress that wants to shirk their duty when it comes to the things they actually should be doing, while doing plenty of things they shouldn't be doing.
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They grift. A lot.
And this is one of the biggest problems we face. A Congress that wants to shirk their duty when it comes to the things they actually should be doing, while doing plenty of things they shouldn't be doing.
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They grift. A lot.
Posted by: Crusader at September 03, 2025 11:16 AM (TN0g+)
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Who you calling a jigger?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at September 03, 2025 11:18 AM (DsG68)
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14 Smug California punk who thought he was being cute by towing away an ICE vehicle while they were making an arrest has caught a federal rap of stealing government property. Looking at 10 years.
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Ha! What’s interesting to me, my first thought was this was probably some coordinated thing, through that Cuban Revolutionary Mayorette office, and they had some sort of cover.
Turns out, no, he just thought he was being cute and did it all on his own. Technically speaking, he also stole government weapons. That’s another Federal Felony.
Whee!!
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Ha! What’s interesting to me, my first thought was this was probably some coordinated thing, through that Cuban Revolutionary Mayorette office, and they had some sort of cover.
Turns out, no, he just thought he was being cute and did it all on his own. Technically speaking, he also stole government weapons. That’s another Federal Felony.
Whee!!
Posted by: Common Tater at September 03, 2025 11:18 AM (6YGnp)
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The government is still wildly over-stealing is more like it.
Posted by: paTroll at September 03, 2025 11:19 AM (jYVFH)
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32 Ha! What’s interesting to me, my first thought was this was probably some coordinated thing, through that Cuban Revolutionary Mayorette office, and they had some sort of cover.
Turns out, no, he just thought he was being cute and did it all on his own. Technically speaking, he also stole government weapons. That’s another Federal Felony.
Whee!!
Posted by: Common Tater at September 03, 2025 11:18 AM (6YGnp)
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Consequences for being a fucktard lowers the number of fucktards.
Turns out, no, he just thought he was being cute and did it all on his own. Technically speaking, he also stole government weapons. That’s another Federal Felony.
Whee!!
Posted by: Common Tater at September 03, 2025 11:18 AM (6YGnp)
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Consequences for being a fucktard lowers the number of fucktards.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at September 03, 2025 11:19 AM (GBKbO)
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Jose, at some point I would hope that you come to understand that tariffs are a tax on Americans. The revenue raised is from American pockets. This is so obvious that it is very frustrating that you refuse to understand it. You gave a hint that you might come around but I'm not sure.
Economically, your problems aren't with foreigners (though you don't see it) it is with our own government with too many rules, regulations, liabilities and taxes. Reduce the burden of the federal government and manufacturing, and all other business, will be freed to operate in a more beneficial way. Drill, baby, drill and all those things are part of that formula. Again, reduce the federal involvement in our lives and you won't care about foreign business.
Economically, your problems aren't with foreigners (though you don't see it) it is with our own government with too many rules, regulations, liabilities and taxes. Reduce the burden of the federal government and manufacturing, and all other business, will be freed to operate in a more beneficial way. Drill, baby, drill and all those things are part of that formula. Again, reduce the federal involvement in our lives and you won't care about foreign business.
Posted by: Earl Schlobodowicz at September 03, 2025 11:19 AM (P7Iz+)
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10 Congress has explicitly passed legislation that allows The President to jigger with tariffs under certain conditions, the President is exercising his authority in compliance with the laws, my bet is SCOTUS says the President is acting within the law and if Congress doesn't like what the President is doing, they are free to re-write the law.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 03, 2025 11:08 AM (XV/Pl)
If Trump loses to SCOTUS here (and I don't think he will, because politics) there are other levers he can pull, up to and probably including reviving Smoot-Hawley. It's been clear for at least a generation that Congress regularly cedes its authority to do politically tough things to unelected bureaucrats and judges. Trump is getting things done, and no matter what the MFM thinks of that, the American people are for it.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 03, 2025 11:08 AM (XV/Pl)
If Trump loses to SCOTUS here (and I don't think he will, because politics) there are other levers he can pull, up to and probably including reviving Smoot-Hawley. It's been clear for at least a generation that Congress regularly cedes its authority to do politically tough things to unelected bureaucrats and judges. Trump is getting things done, and no matter what the MFM thinks of that, the American people are for it.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 03, 2025 11:20 AM (087GX)
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Going slightly off-topic, Trump has been derisively accused of being a dictator. The original meaning of the word, however, is interesting. In Rome, when the Republic was in existential danger, the Senate elected someone to have absolute power to do whatever was necessary to save the Republic, but only for six months.
Trump is not a dictator, but he is harkening back to that Roman period, where, seeing an imminent threat to our way of life, someone needs to take charge and get us out of it. Trump is basically attempting to do this. He ran on it, was elected on it, and is implementing it.
Trump is not a dictator, but he is harkening back to that Roman period, where, seeing an imminent threat to our way of life, someone needs to take charge and get us out of it. Trump is basically attempting to do this. He ran on it, was elected on it, and is implementing it.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 03, 2025 11:21 AM (087GX)
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Yesterday whig mentioned a past ruling in which SCOTUS (as I recall) actually set up some guidepost or definition of emergency and related concepts. Which on its face is absurd and perfectly captures the constitutional unraveling inherent in the non-political branch effectively becoming a super-legislature, but that's beside the point.
As some have noted above, the court can (as it used to do much more, I think) play the umpire role best by tasking Congress with fixing any ambiguities or issues that arise - not jumping in to, again, effectively legislate the "solution" itself.
All that aside, I think there are other authorities a president can use if SCOTUS further disgraces itself and vandalizes the ruins of our constitutional system by nixing the current basis for some tariffs, and Trump will use them.
And as noted by others, not a chance of Congress (i.e. Senate Dems) allowing any legislative fixes, outside reconciliation bill #2, which is a privileged matter (i.e. no 60-vote hurdle in Senate).
As some have noted above, the court can (as it used to do much more, I think) play the umpire role best by tasking Congress with fixing any ambiguities or issues that arise - not jumping in to, again, effectively legislate the "solution" itself.
All that aside, I think there are other authorities a president can use if SCOTUS further disgraces itself and vandalizes the ruins of our constitutional system by nixing the current basis for some tariffs, and Trump will use them.
And as noted by others, not a chance of Congress (i.e. Senate Dems) allowing any legislative fixes, outside reconciliation bill #2, which is a privileged matter (i.e. no 60-vote hurdle in Senate).
Posted by: rhomboid at September 03, 2025 11:22 AM (U/Byj)
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Tariffs have nothing at all to do with monetary inflation.
Posted by: Common Tater at September 03, 2025 11:14 AM (6YGnp)
They have to with gov't revenue, which offsets spending. While all spending by the gov't impacts inflation to some degree, it's particularly deficit spending which does so.
Posted by: Common Tater at September 03, 2025 11:14 AM (6YGnp)
They have to with gov't revenue, which offsets spending. While all spending by the gov't impacts inflation to some degree, it's particularly deficit spending which does so.
Posted by: GWB at September 03, 2025 11:23 AM (RTQn+)
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While Trump is not a dictator, he is cozy with war criminals and genocidal maniacs.
Posted by: paTroll at September 03, 2025 11:23 AM (jYVFH)
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Excellent post… he can make trade deals but not impose tariffs um ok
Posted by: TG Sam at September 03, 2025 11:24 AM (ud9p9)
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Trump is not a dictator, but he is harkening back to that Roman period, where, seeing an imminent threat to our way of life, someone needs to take charge and get us out of it. Trump is basically attempting to do this. He ran on it, was elected on it, and is implementing it.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 03, 2025 11:21 AM (087GX)
What we are seeing, especially after SCOTUS allows Trump to act, is the vast power that the executive branch really has. Be it by its initial design, or Congressional abdication of its responsibilities. Scarier too is watching what is happening, imagine what it will be like when the left gets the Oval Office back. Imagine the havoc they will unleash.
Trump is not a dictator, but he is harkening back to that Roman period, where, seeing an imminent threat to our way of life, someone needs to take charge and get us out of it. Trump is basically attempting to do this. He ran on it, was elected on it, and is implementing it.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 03, 2025 11:21 AM (087GX)
What we are seeing, especially after SCOTUS allows Trump to act, is the vast power that the executive branch really has. Be it by its initial design, or Congressional abdication of its responsibilities. Scarier too is watching what is happening, imagine what it will be like when the left gets the Oval Office back. Imagine the havoc they will unleash.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 03, 2025 11:25 AM (N39Ws)
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The SCROTUS hangs there, waiting to pounce, full of knowledge and insight.
Save us oh mighty SCROTUS!
Save us oh mighty SCROTUS!
Posted by: Full And Heavy at September 03, 2025 11:25 AM (JFEBU)
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TJM - what I’m getting at - Tariffs can and will probably cause higher prices for some imports. Coffee for one example.
Higher prices are not always due to Inflation, which is always due to the government confetti-buck cannon. Inflation is a permanent loss in the purchasing power of the currency unit. It doesn’t come back. Ever. Tariffs are merely a tool, with a goal, not an end to itself.
Ideally some manufacturing returns, and those dollars circulate domestically and provide much needed jobs, careers & revenue for cities and states
That don’t have a printing press, that can’t conjure up 1s and 0s to pay off their crooked “non profits” and NGOs and climate huckster shakedown de-industrialization schemes
Higher prices are not always due to Inflation, which is always due to the government confetti-buck cannon. Inflation is a permanent loss in the purchasing power of the currency unit. It doesn’t come back. Ever. Tariffs are merely a tool, with a goal, not an end to itself.
Ideally some manufacturing returns, and those dollars circulate domestically and provide much needed jobs, careers & revenue for cities and states
That don’t have a printing press, that can’t conjure up 1s and 0s to pay off their crooked “non profits” and NGOs and climate huckster shakedown de-industrialization schemes
Posted by: Common Tater at September 03, 2025 11:25 AM (6YGnp)
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***Progress stops dead in its tracks and many prior wins reverse. I don't know that it would kill the movement, but it would bea brutal blow.
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Obviously, the proper thing to do is throw the judges into dungeons. Personally, they should all be chained to the damp, moldy, mildewed walls of the same dungeon room so that they may stare at and converse with each other.
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Obviously, the proper thing to do is throw the judges into dungeons. Personally, they should all be chained to the damp, moldy, mildewed walls of the same dungeon room so that they may stare at and converse with each other.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 03, 2025 11:26 AM (/P8AX)
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What we are seeing, especially after SCOTUS allows Trump to act, is the vast power that the executive branch really has. Be it by its initial design, or Congressional abdication of its responsibilities. Scarier too is watching what is happening, imagine what it will be like when the left gets the Oval Office back. Imagine the havoc they will unleash.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 03, 2025 11:25 AM (N39Ws)
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The secret is that the left has been ruling the executive branch like Trump has been trying this term for decades.
There's no "What if the left does this next time?!" without addressing the fact that they have been doing this for every Democrat president since WWII so much that every Republican president has hardly been a president in turn because the bureaucracy has been so thoroughly taken over.
What we are seeing, especially after SCOTUS allows Trump to act, is the vast power that the executive branch really has. Be it by its initial design, or Congressional abdication of its responsibilities. Scarier too is watching what is happening, imagine what it will be like when the left gets the Oval Office back. Imagine the havoc they will unleash.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 03, 2025 11:25 AM (N39Ws)
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The secret is that the left has been ruling the executive branch like Trump has been trying this term for decades.
There's no "What if the left does this next time?!" without addressing the fact that they have been doing this for every Democrat president since WWII so much that every Republican president has hardly been a president in turn because the bureaucracy has been so thoroughly taken over.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at September 03, 2025 11:27 AM (GBKbO)
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"Again, reduce the federal involvement in our lives and you won't care about foreign business."
A key point, though over-stated. Of course the administration *is* pursuing this vital course - let's summarize it as "deregulation" - across the board.
Still hoping to see a tidal wave of post-Chevron lawsuits, leading to sue-and-settle, to help clear away vast swaths of pernicious and indefensible "regulation".
And tariffs are not simply a tax on the country imposing them, and completely separately they are (obviously) a very useful lever in dealing with trading partners whose abuses are diverse and serious.
A key point, though over-stated. Of course the administration *is* pursuing this vital course - let's summarize it as "deregulation" - across the board.
Still hoping to see a tidal wave of post-Chevron lawsuits, leading to sue-and-settle, to help clear away vast swaths of pernicious and indefensible "regulation".
And tariffs are not simply a tax on the country imposing them, and completely separately they are (obviously) a very useful lever in dealing with trading partners whose abuses are diverse and serious.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 03, 2025 11:27 AM (U/Byj)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at September 03, 2025 11:28 AM (xcxpd)
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Balance sheets, fiscal responsibility, and reason don't count when you're a revolutionary.
Democrats past those years ago in favor of loads of bricks dropped off for participants in mostly peaceful demonstrations.
Balance sheets, fiscal responsibility, and reason don't count when you're a revolutionary.
Democrats past those years ago in favor of loads of bricks dropped off for participants in mostly peaceful demonstrations.
Posted by: Auspex at September 03, 2025 11:29 AM (Y8DZL)
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47 Still hoping to see a tidal wave of post-Chevron lawsuits, leading to sue-and-settle, to help clear away vast swaths of pernicious and indefensible "regulation".
And tariffs are not simply a tax on the country imposing them, and completely separately they are (obviously) a very useful lever in dealing with trading partners whose abuses are diverse and serious.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 03, 2025 11:27 AM (U/Byj)
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I don't think the lawsuits are necessary in the face of the April 9 EO Directing the Repeal of Unlawful Regulations which explicitly cites Loper as reason to cut out regulations unbacked by statute.
Loper will be more important in the court system when an administration starts adding regulations again, the process of which is now open to judicial review.
And tariffs are not simply a tax on the country imposing them, and completely separately they are (obviously) a very useful lever in dealing with trading partners whose abuses are diverse and serious.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 03, 2025 11:27 AM (U/Byj)
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I don't think the lawsuits are necessary in the face of the April 9 EO Directing the Repeal of Unlawful Regulations which explicitly cites Loper as reason to cut out regulations unbacked by statute.
Loper will be more important in the court system when an administration starts adding regulations again, the process of which is now open to judicial review.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at September 03, 2025 11:30 AM (GBKbO)
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trading partners whose abuses are diverse and serious.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 03, 2025 11:27 AM (U/Byj)
This. To those talking about "Americans pay the costs" what about the foreign gov'ts who are interfering in the international market, in order to sell at low cost into the US? This is balancing the market (though it can be heavy-handed).
Posted by: rhomboid at September 03, 2025 11:27 AM (U/Byj)
This. To those talking about "Americans pay the costs" what about the foreign gov'ts who are interfering in the international market, in order to sell at low cost into the US? This is balancing the market (though it can be heavy-handed).
Posted by: GWB at September 03, 2025 11:31 AM (RTQn+)
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Economically, your problems aren't with foreigners (though you don't see it) it is with our own government with too many rules, regulations, liabilities and taxes. Reduce the burden of the federal government and manufacturing, and all other business, will be freed to operate in a more beneficial way.
Nice imaginary world you live in.
The reality is this:
• Democrats hate America, Republicans have no love for America
• Democrats are roughly half of Congress, and DIABLOs are at least an additional third of Congress.
• The regulatory state is almost purely Democrat
Good luck getting meaningful regulation and spending reform. It may happen in your imagination, but near zero chance in because there is no one in Congress who loves America, its only varying levels of hatred and contempt with an overwhelming urge to destroy and plunder.
Nice imaginary world you live in.
The reality is this:
• Democrats hate America, Republicans have no love for America
• Democrats are roughly half of Congress, and DIABLOs are at least an additional third of Congress.
• The regulatory state is almost purely Democrat
Good luck getting meaningful regulation and spending reform. It may happen in your imagination, but near zero chance in because there is no one in Congress who loves America, its only varying levels of hatred and contempt with an overwhelming urge to destroy and plunder.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at September 03, 2025 11:31 AM (9Hs2w)
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Congress isn't going to do a damn thing to help Trump even if it does help the country or even help them get elected. The social hate runs deep.
They are no better than Brit politicians. Difference is constituents are dangerously close to them.
They are no better than Brit politicians. Difference is constituents are dangerously close to them.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 03, 2025 11:31 AM (/P8AX)
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I thought this post was going to be all about trying to take Australia vs. South America.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at September 03, 2025 11:31 AM (XvL8K)
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BREAKING: US Feral District Clown Judge Bozoberg Orders Trump to Put Narcoterrorists and Their Boat Back Together. Developing ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Defund The Feral District Clown Courts at September 03, 2025 11:32 AM (kHWyE)
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I believe that foreign interests are driving these judicial decisions. The EU economy is in the crapper and the tariffs they levied are part of what is keeping their economies afloat.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 03, 2025 11:32 AM (mFSH6)
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I thought this post was going to be all about trying to take Australia vs. South America.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at September 03, 2025 11:31 AM (XvL8K)
Nope. The only way you can take Australia is through New Guinea.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at September 03, 2025 11:31 AM (XvL8K)
Nope. The only way you can take Australia is through New Guinea.
Posted by: mrp at September 03, 2025 11:33 AM (rj6Yv)
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Clear and Present Danger 2: Tren de Aragua Boogaloo
Posted by: ShainS -- Defund The Feral District Clown Courts at September 03, 2025 11:33 AM (yrqXS)
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TJM you young'ins were not around when the WaPo talked about the "permanent government" fighting Nixon. Half a century before so many "discovered" the "deep state". It's clearly become much much worse, Congress and the courts contributed to that, but the general idea is as old as any sort of administrative state has existed (probably Chy-nah, where bureaucracy was invented).
And worrying "oh no what will happen when the Dems return to power!????" seems puzzling to me. What were the Obama and Biden eras if not essentially unchecked rampages through common sense, law, norms, the constitution? Reminds me of Sen. Cotton's pathetic mewling and laughable rationale for not exercising his constitutional duty during certification of the 2020 "election" - oh no, if we don't certify, what will the other side do???!!!! Words fail.
And worrying "oh no what will happen when the Dems return to power!????" seems puzzling to me. What were the Obama and Biden eras if not essentially unchecked rampages through common sense, law, norms, the constitution? Reminds me of Sen. Cotton's pathetic mewling and laughable rationale for not exercising his constitutional duty during certification of the 2020 "election" - oh no, if we don't certify, what will the other side do???!!!! Words fail.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 03, 2025 11:34 AM (U/Byj)
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I thought this post was going to be all about trying to take Australia vs. South America.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba
I haven't played Risk since I was a kid, but my experience was that guy who got Australia at the beginning of the game usually wound up winning.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba
I haven't played Risk since I was a kid, but my experience was that guy who got Australia at the beginning of the game usually wound up winning.
Posted by: Bulg at September 03, 2025 11:34 AM (77rzZ)
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Yep, the GOP is stupid if they don't have the 2 line legislation done and ready to be voted on in both houses within an hour of the SCOTUS decision. But we all know they ARE stupid, so that's that.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 03, 2025 11:34 AM (rvwwT)
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This. To those talking about "Americans pay the costs" what about the foreign gov'ts who are interfering in the international market, in order to sell at low cost into the US? This is balancing the market (though it can be heavy-handed).
The same retards who want to Tax The Rich are also the same ones that think that preventing your backyard BBQ will save the planet completely ignores the fact that the world has its own billionaires and their own regulatory environment.
Attack and punish domestic activities just chases that money and talent overseas and out of reach.
Tariffs recognize that 95% of the world's population is not American.
The same retards who want to Tax The Rich are also the same ones that think that preventing your backyard BBQ will save the planet completely ignores the fact that the world has its own billionaires and their own regulatory environment.
Attack and punish domestic activities just chases that money and talent overseas and out of reach.
Tariffs recognize that 95% of the world's population is not American.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at September 03, 2025 11:35 AM (/TiS1)
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Clear and Present Danger 2: Tren de Aragua Boogaloo
Posted by: ShainS -- Defund The Feral District Clown Courts at September 03, 2025 11:33 AM (yrqXS)
I'd like to see a video of that naval engagement with an "Orinoco Flow" soundtrack.
Posted by: ShainS -- Defund The Feral District Clown Courts at September 03, 2025 11:33 AM (yrqXS)
I'd like to see a video of that naval engagement with an "Orinoco Flow" soundtrack.
Posted by: mrp at September 03, 2025 11:35 AM (rj6Yv)
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What does any of this nonsense have to do with the greatest movie ever made: Gremlins 2?
More Gremlins 2 posts and comments, please.
More Gremlins 2 posts and comments, please.
Posted by: guy who is really into Gremlins 2 at September 03, 2025 11:35 AM (6g103)
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The law says the president can adjust tariffs in an "emergency" situation, congress never defines what an emergency situation, the president says this is an emergency, who are the courts or congress to tell the unitary executive, absent clear statutory guidelines that his interpretation of what constitutes an emergency is unlawful?
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Ahem.
You may not have read, "He Went to Law School, So He's an Expert in All" clause of Article III of the Constitution.
Every judge mounts that clause on a brass plaque for their desk, which they lovingly caress whenever they doubt the limits of their authority.
See also the clown judges trying to claim Trump can't declare TdA an enemy invasion or incursion.
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Ahem.
You may not have read, "He Went to Law School, So He's an Expert in All" clause of Article III of the Constitution.
Every judge mounts that clause on a brass plaque for their desk, which they lovingly caress whenever they doubt the limits of their authority.
See also the clown judges trying to claim Trump can't declare TdA an enemy invasion or incursion.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 03, 2025 11:35 AM (mEB3m)
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I thought this post was going to be all about trying to take Australia vs. South America.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at September 03, 2025 11:31 AM (XvL8K)
Nope. The only way you can take Australia is through New Guinea.
Posted by:
Fly the slot thru the Solomon Islands, pop over to Papua New Guinea, then drop down into Australia.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at September 03, 2025 11:31 AM (XvL8K)
Nope. The only way you can take Australia is through New Guinea.
Posted by:
Fly the slot thru the Solomon Islands, pop over to Papua New Guinea, then drop down into Australia.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 03, 2025 11:36 AM (FPR3/)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 03, 2025 11:37 AM (kkTda)
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Good point about the April EO, TJM. Part of me just wants to see "sue and settle" turned on its inventors, or at least on their pernicious, vile attempts to create soft totalitarianism.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 03, 2025 11:37 AM (U/Byj)
Posted by: polynikes at September 03, 2025 11:37 AM (EYmYM)
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68 Good point about the April EO, TJM. Part of me just wants to see "sue and settle" turned on its inventors, or at least on their pernicious, vile attempts to create soft totalitarianism.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 03, 2025 11:37 AM (U/Byj)
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That EO is probably the most important of all of Trump's second term EOs.
And most people kind of forgot about it.
I've read that most new regulation written in the past 7 months amounts to saying, "Find ways to cut more regulations."
Posted by: rhomboid at September 03, 2025 11:37 AM (U/Byj)
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That EO is probably the most important of all of Trump's second term EOs.
And most people kind of forgot about it.
I've read that most new regulation written in the past 7 months amounts to saying, "Find ways to cut more regulations."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at September 03, 2025 11:38 AM (GBKbO)
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I saw Inside Out 2 last night. Meh. The critics are slutwhores who can be bought. The box office must be laundered USAID money.
How do I know? Because there is no target audience for this movie. Yes, it's comically woke -- who knew that ice hockey (!) was a big sport for girlbosses? Who knew that so many black, asian, latina, and arab (!) girls were lining up to play? The movie oozes latent lesbianism and "we don't need no boys" contempt.
The problem is I can't imagine any demo wanting to see it. Boys have zero interest in girls with girl problems at a hockey camp. Girls don't care about ice hockey, and there isn't any girl character to identify with.
Despite the girlbossy narrative, this is another movie that takes a dim view of girls. The morals of the story are that (i) girls must ruthlessly social climb if they want to have any kind of future and (ii) the way to do that is to lie, cheat, steal, back-stab, and be Machiavellian thundercunts.
So what if you have to shiv your loyal best friends to ingratiate yourself into a cooler clique? Fuck 'em. They're collateral damage, baby!
How do I know? Because there is no target audience for this movie. Yes, it's comically woke -- who knew that ice hockey (!) was a big sport for girlbosses? Who knew that so many black, asian, latina, and arab (!) girls were lining up to play? The movie oozes latent lesbianism and "we don't need no boys" contempt.
The problem is I can't imagine any demo wanting to see it. Boys have zero interest in girls with girl problems at a hockey camp. Girls don't care about ice hockey, and there isn't any girl character to identify with.
Despite the girlbossy narrative, this is another movie that takes a dim view of girls. The morals of the story are that (i) girls must ruthlessly social climb if they want to have any kind of future and (ii) the way to do that is to lie, cheat, steal, back-stab, and be Machiavellian thundercunts.
So what if you have to shiv your loyal best friends to ingratiate yourself into a cooler clique? Fuck 'em. They're collateral damage, baby!
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 03, 2025 11:38 AM (iFTx/)
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You may not have read, "He Went to Law School, So He's an Expert in All" clause of Article III of the Constitution.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
In the companies where I've worked as a corporate paralegal, they really do think that the Legal Department knows everything. People were always coming to me with the most out-of-left-field questions because I was in the Legal Department, so I must know.
They'd also bring me every weird piece of mail because they thought that surely I would know whom to give it to or what to do with it.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
In the companies where I've worked as a corporate paralegal, they really do think that the Legal Department knows everything. People were always coming to me with the most out-of-left-field questions because I was in the Legal Department, so I must know.
They'd also bring me every weird piece of mail because they thought that surely I would know whom to give it to or what to do with it.
Posted by: Bulg at September 03, 2025 11:39 AM (77rzZ)
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I seem to recall the courts recently argued that a new version of the flu is an emergency allowing the president to do anything, so Biden's hyperflation and intentional exporting of American industry certainly must also count...
Posted by: 18-1 at September 03, 2025 11:39 AM (sKqQm)
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The President talking about Brennan at CBS:
He turned to Leavitt, who was present during the interview, and asked, "What do you think of her?"
"She’s stupid. You can put that on the record," Leavitt said.
Now I've never met Leavitt but I know people who have and they all say she is both brilliant, and a total Alpha. This I believe.
He turned to Leavitt, who was present during the interview, and asked, "What do you think of her?"
"She’s stupid. You can put that on the record," Leavitt said.
Now I've never met Leavitt but I know people who have and they all say she is both brilliant, and a total Alpha. This I believe.
Posted by: Diogenes at September 03, 2025 11:40 AM (2WIwB)
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The guy who is luckiest at rolling dice is the winner of Risk. Just like real war.
Posted by: polynikes at September 03, 2025 11:40 AM (EYmYM)
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South America. You must control South America.
Posted by: Reforger at September 03, 2025 11:40 AM (Mptn1)
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76 South America. You must control South America.
Posted by: Reforger at September 03, 2025 11:40 AM (Mptn1)
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First you get the sugar.
Then you get the power.
Then you get the women.
Posted by: Reforger at September 03, 2025 11:40 AM (Mptn1)
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First you get the sugar.
Then you get the power.
Then you get the women.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at September 03, 2025 11:41 AM (GBKbO)
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The left then: We need higher taxes!
The left now: Like oh my gaia do you rethuglicans understand that people like pay taxes and stuff?
The left now: Like oh my gaia do you rethuglicans understand that people like pay taxes and stuff?
Posted by: 18-1 at September 03, 2025 11:41 AM (sKqQm)
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Now I've never met Leavitt but I know people who have and they all say she is both brilliant, and a total Alpha. This I believe.
Posted by: Diogenes
Quite the looker, too.
Posted by: Diogenes
Quite the looker, too.
Posted by: Bulg at September 03, 2025 11:41 AM (77rzZ)
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South America. You must control South America.
Now, Australia. You get the same 2 armies and it is easier to hold.
Now, Australia. You get the same 2 armies and it is easier to hold.
Posted by: 18-1 plays Risk at September 03, 2025 11:41 AM (sKqQm)
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As whig noted yesterday, there sure doesn't seem to be any basis for the standing of any of the plaintiffs in these tariff decisions.
Especially as their harm is entirely speculative--"we may have to pay more for the products we sell."
And almost no discussion of the balance of equities.
Individual sellers could incur costs of a few million or thousand a year at most.
But the government, if the court gets it wrong, will lose hundreds of billions of dollars in revenue.
That requires the court to NOT issue the injunction.
I feel like a few of the recent SCOTUS emergency docket rulings have been based on this; that the injunction wasn't justified because the district court wholly neglected to follow the law on the balance of equities.
Especially as their harm is entirely speculative--"we may have to pay more for the products we sell."
And almost no discussion of the balance of equities.
Individual sellers could incur costs of a few million or thousand a year at most.
But the government, if the court gets it wrong, will lose hundreds of billions of dollars in revenue.
That requires the court to NOT issue the injunction.
I feel like a few of the recent SCOTUS emergency docket rulings have been based on this; that the injunction wasn't justified because the district court wholly neglected to follow the law on the balance of equities.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 03, 2025 11:42 AM (mEB3m)
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Despite the girlbossy narrative, this is another movie that takes a dim view of girls. The morals of the story are that (i) girls must ruthlessly social climb if they want to have any kind of future and (ii) the way to do that is to lie, cheat, steal, back-stab, and be Machiavellian thundercunts.
This is the world view of Hollywood so it makes sense.
This is the world view of Hollywood so it makes sense.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 03, 2025 11:43 AM (sKqQm)
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Short die the judiocarcy!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at September 03, 2025 11:43 AM (ElQWS)
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Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 03, 2025 11:38 AM (iFTx/)
Why did you go see the film? Didn't expect it to be like this or you went on a date with someone and she wanted to go see it?
Why did you go see the film? Didn't expect it to be like this or you went on a date with someone and she wanted to go see it?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 03, 2025 11:43 AM (2GCMq)
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The government does not have an income problem. It has a spending problem. A half trillion dollars in tariffs is a half trillion dollars taken out of the market and spent on things the market does not want.
Until they get their spending problem under control, nothing else matters.
Until they get their spending problem under control, nothing else matters.
Posted by: Tinfoil Dispenser at September 03, 2025 11:43 AM (ERYKL)
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Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 03, 2025 11:38 AM (iFTx/)
The target audience is girls of non woke parents. If they can sway just 10% of their audience to become woke girlbosses they would have completed their mission
The target audience is girls of non woke parents. If they can sway just 10% of their audience to become woke girlbosses they would have completed their mission
Posted by: polynikes at September 03, 2025 11:44 AM (EYmYM)
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First you get the sugar.
Then you get the power.
Then you get the women.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at September 03, 2025 11:41 AM
I've clearly been doing this wrong.
Then you get the power.
Then you get the women.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at September 03, 2025 11:41 AM
I've clearly been doing this wrong.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 03, 2025 11:44 AM (4y4hF)
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Inflation will come back. But with tariffs in place and interest rates lowered Trump's revitalization plan will be in place.
Manufacturing and construction will boom and job rates will soar, completely offsetting the small amount of inflation occurs.
Manufacturing and construction will boom and job rates will soar, completely offsetting the small amount of inflation occurs.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 03, 2025 11:44 AM (/P8AX)
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I think this country is fucked no matter what happens. Trump only has three and a half years left. Even though we have a decent stable of candidates for prez afterwards, the powers arrayed against freedom are becoming more numerous both domestically and internationally.
And if no one wants to sacrifice for that freedom, then the road to subjugation will be the the only road available. We can't keep waiting for "not me but someone else" to do something.
And if no one wants to sacrifice for that freedom, then the road to subjugation will be the the only road available. We can't keep waiting for "not me but someone else" to do something.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 03, 2025 11:44 AM (g8Ew8)
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“Protectionism” built the country. There was no possible way the fledgling colonies could compete with then-Great Britain on textiles, for one example.
At some point, long ago, so-called “free trade”, it started eating into national security. I don’t hate the Japanese, but I love America. They subsidized steel, dumping it on our shores sans Tariffs, and gutted Pittsburgh and the steel mills. The Unions probably didn’t help.
America has to make things that people want to buy. We can’t all be Life Coaches and Tic-Toc Influencers. Depending on adversaries for critical materials and components and major end items is the definition of Insanity.
At some point, long ago, so-called “free trade”, it started eating into national security. I don’t hate the Japanese, but I love America. They subsidized steel, dumping it on our shores sans Tariffs, and gutted Pittsburgh and the steel mills. The Unions probably didn’t help.
America has to make things that people want to buy. We can’t all be Life Coaches and Tic-Toc Influencers. Depending on adversaries for critical materials and components and major end items is the definition of Insanity.
Posted by: Common Tater at September 03, 2025 11:44 AM (6YGnp)
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84 Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 03, 2025 11:38 AM (iFTx/)
Why did you go see the film? Didn't expect it to be like this or you went on a date with someone and she wanted to go see it?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 03, 2025 11:43 AM (2GCMq)
He's legit retarded.
Why did you go see the film? Didn't expect it to be like this or you went on a date with someone and she wanted to go see it?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 03, 2025 11:43 AM (2GCMq)
He's legit retarded.
Posted by: guy who thinks Elric is legit retarded at September 03, 2025 11:45 AM (6g103)
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Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 03, 2025 11:38 AM (iFTx/)
Why did you go see the film? Didn't expect it to be like this or you went on a date with someone and she wanted to go see it?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 03, 2025 11:43 AM (2GCMq)
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I watched it at home. I thought the first one was somewhere between OK and pretty good, so no reason not to watch the sequel. It was far inferior to the first one.
Why did you go see the film? Didn't expect it to be like this or you went on a date with someone and she wanted to go see it?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 03, 2025 11:43 AM (2GCMq)
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I watched it at home. I thought the first one was somewhere between OK and pretty good, so no reason not to watch the sequel. It was far inferior to the first one.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 03, 2025 11:45 AM (iFTx/)
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Until they get their spending problem under control, nothing else matters.
Looking at the make up of Congress, that simply will not happen in this term.
But tariffs address this problem in part, and more importantly address other pressing problems. So why not take a partial, short term fix for now and if we get an friendly congress in 2026 revisit it then?
Looking at the make up of Congress, that simply will not happen in this term.
But tariffs address this problem in part, and more importantly address other pressing problems. So why not take a partial, short term fix for now and if we get an friendly congress in 2026 revisit it then?
Posted by: 18-1 at September 03, 2025 11:46 AM (sKqQm)
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I haven't played Risk since I was a kid, but my experience was that guy who got Australia at the beginning of the game usually wound up winning.
Posted by: Bulg
That's why every other player was united in stopping that from happening.
I loved the "Don't attack me for three turns" alliances and craven duplicity that game brought out in it's players.
Posted by: Bulg
That's why every other player was united in stopping that from happening.
I loved the "Don't attack me for three turns" alliances and craven duplicity that game brought out in it's players.
Posted by: Auspex at September 03, 2025 11:46 AM (Y8DZL)
Posted by: Crusader at September 03, 2025 11:46 AM (TN0g+)
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I feel like a few of the recent SCOTUS emergency docket rulings have been based on this; that the injunction wasn't justified because the district court wholly neglected to follow the law on the balance of equities.
Was that wrong? Should we not have done that? I wish someone had told us...
Was that wrong? Should we not have done that? I wish someone had told us...
Posted by: District Courts at September 03, 2025 11:46 AM (Riz8t)
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New Guinea and the Solomons were separate thrusts by Japan, both indeed part of the effort to expand the defensive perimeter and menace if not cut the lines to Australia (Fiji was considered as next step to actually cut off Australia, but of course things never got that far).
The two campaigns were more than Japan could support, they kept competing for inadequate resources. New Guinea campaign aimed at taking Port Moresby and Milne Bay, this was the part aimed at Australia.
The two campaigns were more than Japan could support, they kept competing for inadequate resources. New Guinea campaign aimed at taking Port Moresby and Milne Bay, this was the part aimed at Australia.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 03, 2025 11:47 AM (U/Byj)
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Boys have zero interest in girls with girl problems at a hockey camp. Girls don't care about ice hockey, and there isn't any girl character to identify with.
Starting to think that a lot of good movies can be made if they stop trying to pander to mOdErN AuDiEnCeS!
Starting to think that a lot of good movies can be made if they stop trying to pander to mOdErN AuDiEnCeS!
Posted by: NR Pax at September 03, 2025 11:47 AM (BpO1e)
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Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 03, 2025 11:38 AM (iFTx/)
The target audience is girls of non woke parents. If they can sway just 10% of their audience to become woke girlbosses they would have completed their mission
Posted by: polynikes at September 03, 2025 11:44 AM (EYmYM)
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Maybe, but the main character was not anyone that a non-woke woman (of any age) would identify with. And ice hockey? Seriously? I doubt many boys will identify with that, let alone girls.
The target audience is girls of non woke parents. If they can sway just 10% of their audience to become woke girlbosses they would have completed their mission
Posted by: polynikes at September 03, 2025 11:44 AM (EYmYM)
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Maybe, but the main character was not anyone that a non-woke woman (of any age) would identify with. And ice hockey? Seriously? I doubt many boys will identify with that, let alone girls.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 03, 2025 11:48 AM (iFTx/)
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I haven't played Risk since I was a kid, but my experience was that guy who got Australia at the beginning of the game usually wound up winning.
Posted by: Bulg at September 03, 2025 11:34 AM (77rzZ)
Only if he also had troops in other regions that he could defend. Getting OUT of Oceania was very hard because it was a long way from anywhere that could be easily conquered AND consolidated. (Though it was nice and easy to defend.)
Posted by: Bulg at September 03, 2025 11:34 AM (77rzZ)
Only if he also had troops in other regions that he could defend. Getting OUT of Oceania was very hard because it was a long way from anywhere that could be easily conquered AND consolidated. (Though it was nice and easy to defend.)
Posted by: GWB at September 03, 2025 11:48 AM (RTQn+)
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We played Risk late night in our frat house. It started a number of real life internal battles that continued after the game was over.
Best was sore loser leaning a water filled trash against the winners door. That war lasted for about a month.
Best was sore loser leaning a water filled trash against the winners door. That war lasted for about a month.
Posted by: polynikes at September 03, 2025 11:49 AM (EYmYM)
102
Trash can
Posted by: polynikes at September 03, 2025 11:49 AM (EYmYM)
103
I think this country is fucked no matter what happens. Trump only has three and a half years left. Even though we have a decent stable of candidates for prez afterwards, the powers arrayed against freedom are becoming more numerous both domestically and internationally.
Trump has pushed the Overton window on what can be done significantly - compare Trump with Shrub here and the differences are astounding.
But...your point is valid.
A few bucks from tariffs and some teeny tiny spending cuts are not going to fix anything ultimately. We need to be zeroing out most government departments. And...now...as the debt keeps growing.
So we'd need to hit an inside straight. Continue to purge the GOPers from congress, get stronger more serious majorities in '26 and then continue the same with President DeSantis/Vance in '28.
Trump has pushed the Overton window on what can be done significantly - compare Trump with Shrub here and the differences are astounding.
But...your point is valid.
A few bucks from tariffs and some teeny tiny spending cuts are not going to fix anything ultimately. We need to be zeroing out most government departments. And...now...as the debt keeps growing.
So we'd need to hit an inside straight. Continue to purge the GOPers from congress, get stronger more serious majorities in '26 and then continue the same with President DeSantis/Vance in '28.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 03, 2025 11:49 AM (sKqQm)
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Posted by: rhomboid at September 03, 2025 11:47 AM (U/Byj)
I had a cousin who was an Aussie, and he spent a lot of time slogging through New Guinea chasing Japs.
He was one tough bastard!
I had a cousin who was an Aussie, and he spent a lot of time slogging through New Guinea chasing Japs.
He was one tough bastard!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at September 03, 2025 11:49 AM (L5An7)
105
Dolley hates Risk.
I enjoy it.
I have learned that you can actually play Risk decently well alone.
I enjoy it.
I have learned that you can actually play Risk decently well alone.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at September 03, 2025 11:49 AM (GBKbO)
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I have learned that you can actually play Risk decently well alone.
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I played Strat-o-Matic baseball alone for awhile.
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I played Strat-o-Matic baseball alone for awhile.
Posted by: Crusader at September 03, 2025 11:50 AM (TN0g+)
107
Modern boardgames > Risk >>>>>>Monopoly
Posted by: 18-1 at September 03, 2025 11:50 AM (sKqQm)
108
Getting OUT of Oceania was very hard because it was a long way from anywhere that could be easily conquered AND consolidated. (Though it was nice and easy to defend.)
Posted by: GWB
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You just had to hold Siam as well to keep anyone from getting seven armies for Asia, and to win a battle every turn to get a card.
Posted by: GWB
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You just had to hold Siam as well to keep anyone from getting seven armies for Asia, and to win a battle every turn to get a card.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at September 03, 2025 11:51 AM (XvL8K)
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I played Strat-o-Matic baseball alone for awhile.
I think they made a video game at some point which would allow solo play
I think they made a video game at some point which would allow solo play
Posted by: 18-1 at September 03, 2025 11:51 AM (sKqQm)
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Manufacturing and construction will boom and job rates will soar, completely offsetting the small amount of inflation occurs.
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The “Experts” talk about wage or push pull inflation. The idea that higher wages means higher inflation rates. Beggar thy neighbor. What’s wrong with more money for workers? They are trying a sleight of hand here.
The money has to stay here. Borrowing money from say, China to buy Chinese stuff, while they print up even more money to pay people not to work is not the path to prosperity. They are also borrowing money from say, China, in order to give it to Ukraine. What wizardry is this?
“Reserve Currency” status was a curse in a lot of ways. An exorbitant privilege that isn’t even understood by the current crop in Washington. Chronic deficits going back to the 1950s.
What other countries have these kinds of spending orgies? Why are our cities , roads, airports and infrastructure in tatters? Everything is Broken.
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The “Experts” talk about wage or push pull inflation. The idea that higher wages means higher inflation rates. Beggar thy neighbor. What’s wrong with more money for workers? They are trying a sleight of hand here.
The money has to stay here. Borrowing money from say, China to buy Chinese stuff, while they print up even more money to pay people not to work is not the path to prosperity. They are also borrowing money from say, China, in order to give it to Ukraine. What wizardry is this?
“Reserve Currency” status was a curse in a lot of ways. An exorbitant privilege that isn’t even understood by the current crop in Washington. Chronic deficits going back to the 1950s.
What other countries have these kinds of spending orgies? Why are our cities , roads, airports and infrastructure in tatters? Everything is Broken.
Posted by: Common Tater at September 03, 2025 11:51 AM (6YGnp)
111
Madagascar was what the guys who were forced to play always went for so they could lose quickly .
Posted by: polynikes at September 03, 2025 11:51 AM (EYmYM)
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108 Modern boardgames > Risk >>>>>>Monopoly
Posted by: 18-1 at September 03, 2025 11:50 AM (sKqQm)
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Monopoly shockingly sucks. Like...I don't think it's a good board game.
It gets real repetitive real fast.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 03, 2025 11:50 AM (sKqQm)
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Monopoly shockingly sucks. Like...I don't think it's a good board game.
It gets real repetitive real fast.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at September 03, 2025 11:51 AM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 03, 2025 11:53 AM (iFTx/)
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One of the biggest impacts of protectionism paired with border control, amusingly, is reducing income inequality.
And again this is simple economics. Reduce supply and prices go up.
Now, the left wants to argue this is bad but they have a problem because they've also been arguing about the need to "fix" income inequality and "help" the working class for so long calling these people lazy jerks that should be kept on welfare isn't going to work...
And again this is simple economics. Reduce supply and prices go up.
Now, the left wants to argue this is bad but they have a problem because they've also been arguing about the need to "fix" income inequality and "help" the working class for so long calling these people lazy jerks that should be kept on welfare isn't going to work...
Posted by: 18-1 at September 03, 2025 11:54 AM (sKqQm)
115
Monopoly shockingly sucks. Like...I don't think it's a good board game.
It gets real repetitive real fast.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at September 03, 2025 11:51 AM (GBKbO
And the guy who 'invented' it actually stole the idea from a woman socialist friend . You can't trust Lefties.
It gets real repetitive real fast.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at September 03, 2025 11:51 AM (GBKbO
And the guy who 'invented' it actually stole the idea from a woman socialist friend . You can't trust Lefties.
Posted by: polynikes at September 03, 2025 11:54 AM (EYmYM)
116
Monopoly seemed to be really popular at frats when I was in college. It's a crap game that takes forever to play. I assume the frat bros played it while their assholes healed from all the gay buggering that I always assumed takes place at frats.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 03, 2025 11:54 AM (iFTx/)
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 03, 2025 11:55 AM (iFTx/)
118
Well there was the malabar front where they faced off against eurasia and eastasia
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at September 03, 2025 11:55 AM (bXbFr)
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Posted by: 18-1 at September 03, 2025 11:54 AM (sKqQm)
So far the majority of price increases we've seen as a result of tariffs have been on luxury goods.
So far the majority of price increases we've seen as a result of tariffs have been on luxury goods.
Posted by: polynikes at September 03, 2025 11:56 AM (EYmYM)
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115 Monopoly shockingly sucks. Like...I don't think it's a good board game.
It gets real repetitive real fast.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at September 03, 2025 11:51 AM (GBKbO
And the guy who 'invented' it actually stole the idea from a woman socialist friend . You can't trust Lefties.
Posted by: polynikes at September 03, 2025 11:54 AM (EYmYM)
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I'd always heard that the lady made it because it was designed to show how capitalism was awful.
The only lesson I got is that real estate is a long, dull slog of a business as you wait for your neighbors to declare bankruptcy at some point in the future so you can buy up their already owned property. Which can take...many turns around the board.
I've never played a game of Monopoly where people have willingly sold properties to other people. Everyone just guards what they have to make sure no one else gets a monopoly to start building houses.
It gets real repetitive real fast.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at September 03, 2025 11:51 AM (GBKbO
And the guy who 'invented' it actually stole the idea from a woman socialist friend . You can't trust Lefties.
Posted by: polynikes at September 03, 2025 11:54 AM (EYmYM)
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I'd always heard that the lady made it because it was designed to show how capitalism was awful.
The only lesson I got is that real estate is a long, dull slog of a business as you wait for your neighbors to declare bankruptcy at some point in the future so you can buy up their already owned property. Which can take...many turns around the board.
I've never played a game of Monopoly where people have willingly sold properties to other people. Everyone just guards what they have to make sure no one else gets a monopoly to start building houses.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at September 03, 2025 11:56 AM (GBKbO)
121
New Guinea is certainly the least known and most grueling theater of WWII from the American perspective. Aussies of course know it better. Basically the worst parts of the Solomons (Guadalcanal at the nadir, Bougainville, Cape Gloucester) but even smaller margins of victory and equal/worse conditions. Up to Lae/Salamaua anyway. Aussies still put up heroic performance at Finschafen. But the early battles were incredibly bad.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 03, 2025 11:56 AM (U/Byj)
122
Trivial Pursuit was over-rated.
Posted by: Crusader at September 03, 2025 11:56 AM (TN0g+)
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Oh my, I did Avalon Hill games and subscribed to Strategy and Tactics for a while, but I haven't even opened a board game in 50+ years.
Oh my, I did Avalon Hill games and subscribed to Strategy and Tactics for a while, but I haven't even opened a board game in 50+ years.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 03, 2025 11:56 AM (kkTda)
124
New Guinea is just younger Italians
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 03, 2025 11:56 AM (iFTx/)
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Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 03, 2025 11:54 AM (iFTx/)
You sure talk a lot about 'fags' all the time.
Just saying.
You sure talk a lot about 'fags' all the time.
Just saying.
Posted by: polynikes at September 03, 2025 11:58 AM (EYmYM)
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Monopoly shockingly sucks. Like...I don't think it's a good board game.
It gets real repetitive real fast.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
It's great fun when you're the banker.
It gets real repetitive real fast.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
It's great fun when you're the banker.
Posted by: Auspex at September 03, 2025 11:58 AM (Y8DZL)
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Police called after 5-year-old boy leaves home, walks to Chick-fil-A alone: 'Am I going to jail'
https://is.gd/Ofs4od
https://is.gd/Ofs4od
Posted by: ShainS -- Defund The Feral District Clown Courts at September 03, 2025 11:59 AM (4i+3a)
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Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at September 03, 2025 11:56 AM (GBKbO)
Yes that why I described her as his socialist friend.
Yes that why I described her as his socialist friend.
Posted by: polynikes at September 03, 2025 11:59 AM (EYmYM)
129
. You can't trust Lefties.
Posted by: polynikes at September 03, 2025 11:54 AM (EYmYM)
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I'd always heard that the lady made it because it was designed to show how capitalism was awful.
The only lesson I got is that real estate is a long, dull slog of a business as you wait for your neighbors to declare bankruptcy at some point in the future so you can buy up their already owned property. Which can take...many turns around the board.
I've never played a game of Monopoly where people have willingly sold properties to other people. Everyone just guards what they have to make sure no one else gets a monopoly to start building houses.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at September 03, 2025 11:56 AM (GBKbO)\
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Don't they know that the way to win at real estate is to bribe corrupt politicians to change zoning, lie and cheat on building codes, and maybe murder some rivals?
Posted by: polynikes at September 03, 2025 11:54 AM (EYmYM)
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I'd always heard that the lady made it because it was designed to show how capitalism was awful.
The only lesson I got is that real estate is a long, dull slog of a business as you wait for your neighbors to declare bankruptcy at some point in the future so you can buy up their already owned property. Which can take...many turns around the board.
I've never played a game of Monopoly where people have willingly sold properties to other people. Everyone just guards what they have to make sure no one else gets a monopoly to start building houses.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at September 03, 2025 11:56 AM (GBKbO)\
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Don't they know that the way to win at real estate is to bribe corrupt politicians to change zoning, lie and cheat on building codes, and maybe murder some rivals?
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 03, 2025 11:59 AM (iFTx/)
130
There is one good board game and one good board game only:
Chess
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Yeah, but the downside seems to be that Chess exists at only 2 levels. The first is "Oh, chess, we should like totally play chess", which means both players are barely familiar with the game, and it IS entertaining and a good way to spend an hour and a half. But its really, really low in the amount of skill involved.
The other level is "I can tell by your opening exactly what you're attempting and I will crush your soul in 9 moves." Its master level stuff, and my hat is off to anyone who can play at that level.
But there's very little to be found in between. Its an all or nothing game.
Chess
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Yeah, but the downside seems to be that Chess exists at only 2 levels. The first is "Oh, chess, we should like totally play chess", which means both players are barely familiar with the game, and it IS entertaining and a good way to spend an hour and a half. But its really, really low in the amount of skill involved.
The other level is "I can tell by your opening exactly what you're attempting and I will crush your soul in 9 moves." Its master level stuff, and my hat is off to anyone who can play at that level.
But there's very little to be found in between. Its an all or nothing game.
Posted by: Crusader at September 03, 2025 11:59 AM (TN0g+)
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Thats pretty much how I read it. The president can act in certain circumstances like national security and economic emergency. Looking around at the debt and the army of darkness appearing around the globe, I think both apply here.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 03, 2025 11:13 AM
Moreover, the President is the sole decider of whether an emergency exists. The courts are unqualified to make that call.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 03, 2025 11:13 AM
Moreover, the President is the sole decider of whether an emergency exists. The courts are unqualified to make that call.
Posted by: toby928 at September 03, 2025 12:00 PM (jc0TO)
132
New Guinea is certainly the least known and most grueling theater of WWII from the American perspective.
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"Bob, I want you to take Buna or don't come back alive. And that goes for your chief of staff too."
New Guinea is certainly the least known and most grueling theater of WWII from the American perspective.
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"Bob, I want you to take Buna or don't come back alive. And that goes for your chief of staff too."
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 03, 2025 12:00 PM (kkTda)
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130 The other level is "I can tell by your opening exactly what you're attempting and I will crush your soul in 9 moves." Its master level stuff, and my hat is off to anyone who can play at that level.
But there's very little to be found in between. Its an all or nothing game.
Posted by: Crusader at September 03, 2025 11:59 AM (TN0g+)
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I think I'm good enough that I could make it 11 moves before I get checkmated to death.
But there's very little to be found in between. Its an all or nothing game.
Posted by: Crusader at September 03, 2025 11:59 AM (TN0g+)
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I think I'm good enough that I could make it 11 moves before I get checkmated to death.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at September 03, 2025 12:00 PM (GBKbO)
134
I wonder if SCOTUS can punt by saying the plaintiffs didn't make the case that the President didn't act within his statutory authority.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 03, 2025 12:01 PM (Dv3i1)
135
Monopoly shockingly sucks. Like...I don't think it's a good board game.
It gets real repetitive real fast.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
well, the concept harks back to the 1930s, and it was a much slower time...
It gets real repetitive real fast.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
well, the concept harks back to the 1930s, and it was a much slower time...
Posted by: kallisto at September 03, 2025 12:01 PM (dCxaZ)
136
Ukraine is weak.
Posted by: toby928 at September 03, 2025 12:01 PM (jc0TO)
137
I have learned that you can actually play Risk decently well alone.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at September 03, 2025 11:49 AM (GBKbO)
I had an Axis and Allies game going against myself out here in the shop for about a year. I did one move per evening.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at September 03, 2025 11:49 AM (GBKbO)
I had an Axis and Allies game going against myself out here in the shop for about a year. I did one move per evening.
Posted by: Reforger at September 03, 2025 12:02 PM (Mptn1)
138
Candyland is the Left's favorite board game.
Posted by: polynikes at September 03, 2025 12:02 PM (EYmYM)
139
The idea that higher wages means higher inflation rates.
Posted by: Common Tater at September 03, 2025 11:51 AM (6YGnp)
Well, it does, to some extent. IF there is no productivity increase.
If wages go up and productivity has not, then prices on the good or service provided go up. Which shows up as inflation (since there isn't more supply). Which is why legislated minimum wages can help drive inflation (which defeats the point of increasing the wage) - they aren't related to productivity in any way.
Posted by: Common Tater at September 03, 2025 11:51 AM (6YGnp)
Well, it does, to some extent. IF there is no productivity increase.
If wages go up and productivity has not, then prices on the good or service provided go up. Which shows up as inflation (since there isn't more supply). Which is why legislated minimum wages can help drive inflation (which defeats the point of increasing the wage) - they aren't related to productivity in any way.
Posted by: GWB at September 03, 2025 12:02 PM (RTQn+)
140
New Guinea is certainly the least known and most grueling theater of WWII from the American perspective. Aussies of course know it better. Basically the worst parts of the Solomons (Guadalcanal at the nadir, Bougainville, Cape Gloucester) but even smaller margins of victory and equal/worse conditions. Up to Lae/Salamaua anyway. Aussies still put up heroic performance at Finschafen. But the early battles were incredibly bad.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 03, 2025 11:56 AM (U/Byj)
The Owen Stanley Mountains, The Battles of Coral Sea and the Bismarck Sea. Building airfields out raw jungle. Guadalcanal X 10.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 03, 2025 11:56 AM (U/Byj)
The Owen Stanley Mountains, The Battles of Coral Sea and the Bismarck Sea. Building airfields out raw jungle. Guadalcanal X 10.
Posted by: mrp at September 03, 2025 12:02 PM (rj6Yv)
141
New Guinea is certainly the least known and most grueling theater of WWII from the American perspective.
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Probably because we were kind of inept in that campaign. At least compared to the Aussies.
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Probably because we were kind of inept in that campaign. At least compared to the Aussies.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at September 03, 2025 12:02 PM (XvL8K)
Posted by: Ivan Drago at September 03, 2025 12:02 PM (TN0g+)
143
A characteristically stupid question: are the staff-level war games available? I mean, ones actually used by the armed forces?
A characteristically stupid question: are the staff-level war games available? I mean, ones actually used by the armed forces?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 03, 2025 12:03 PM (kkTda)
144
I want to thank Joe Mannix for his thoughts on board games that got this thread going.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at September 03, 2025 12:04 PM (GBKbO)
145
America's greatest enemy is the Democrat Party.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 03, 2025 12:05 PM (WPL6O)
146
But there's very little to be found in between. Its an all or nothing game.
Posted by: Crusader
Speed chess where you are just reacting with about 1 second between moves.
Posted by: Crusader
Speed chess where you are just reacting with about 1 second between moves.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 03, 2025 12:05 PM (FPR3/)
147
Ukraine is weak.
Posted by: toby928 at September 03, 2025 12:01 PM (jc0TO)
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"Ukraine is weak? Fucking Ukraine is weak? You're weak. I've been in this business 15 years."
Ukraine is weak.
Posted by: toby928 at September 03, 2025 12:01 PM (jc0TO)
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"Ukraine is weak? Fucking Ukraine is weak? You're weak. I've been in this business 15 years."
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 03, 2025 12:05 PM (kkTda)
148
Remember we need minimum wage laws so that people can have a "living wage" even though those jobs aren't designed for people to live off of, however, if salaries go up due to competition for American workers after the illegals and foreigners are removed from the equation that is double plus bad.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 03, 2025 12:05 PM (sKqQm)
149
There is one good board game and one good board game only:
Chess
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Yeah, but the downside seems to be that Chess exists at only 2 levels. The first is "Oh, chess, we should like totally play chess", which means both players are barely familiar with the game, and it IS entertaining and a good way to spend an hour and a half. But its really, really low in the amount of skill involved.
The other level is "I can tell by your opening exactly what you're attempting and I will crush your soul in 9 moves." Its master level stuff, and my hat is off to anyone who can play at that level.
But there's very little to be found in between. Its an all or nothing game.
Posted by: Crusader at September 03, 2025 11:59 AM (TN0g+)
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Yes and no. It can be hard for experienced players to find equal opponents outside of chess clubs and tournaments. But now you can play online and match up with someone your level.
I agree at the higher level it becomes mostly about "oh, he's using the Chigorin Knight's Sacrifice Clusterfuck, so I will counter with the Nimzo-Indian Up-Yours with the Kung Fu Grip!" It becomes 95% about endless study of 1000s of possible openings and defenses.
Chess
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Yeah, but the downside seems to be that Chess exists at only 2 levels. The first is "Oh, chess, we should like totally play chess", which means both players are barely familiar with the game, and it IS entertaining and a good way to spend an hour and a half. But its really, really low in the amount of skill involved.
The other level is "I can tell by your opening exactly what you're attempting and I will crush your soul in 9 moves." Its master level stuff, and my hat is off to anyone who can play at that level.
But there's very little to be found in between. Its an all or nothing game.
Posted by: Crusader at September 03, 2025 11:59 AM (TN0g+)
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Yes and no. It can be hard for experienced players to find equal opponents outside of chess clubs and tournaments. But now you can play online and match up with someone your level.
I agree at the higher level it becomes mostly about "oh, he's using the Chigorin Knight's Sacrifice Clusterfuck, so I will counter with the Nimzo-Indian Up-Yours with the Kung Fu Grip!" It becomes 95% about endless study of 1000s of possible openings and defenses.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 03, 2025 12:06 PM (iFTx/)
150
Don't they know that the way to win at real estate is to bribe corrupt politicians to change zoning, lie and cheat on building codes, and maybe murder some rivals?
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 03, 2025 11:59 AM (iFTx/)
Maybe an "advanced rule" where you can get someone to change the color on a property, breaking and re-making monopolies. How to implement is the question. Oh, and Eminent Domain (where you can turn properties into Community Chance, Railroads, or Utilities).
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 03, 2025 11:59 AM (iFTx/)
Maybe an "advanced rule" where you can get someone to change the color on a property, breaking and re-making monopolies. How to implement is the question. Oh, and Eminent Domain (where you can turn properties into Community Chance, Railroads, or Utilities).
Posted by: GWB at September 03, 2025 12:06 PM (RTQn+)
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148 Remember we need minimum wage laws so that people can have a "living wage" even though those jobs aren't designed for people to live off of, however, if salaries go up due to competition for American workers after the illegals and foreigners are removed from the equation that is double plus bad.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 03, 2025 12:05 PM (sKqQm)
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Does the price wage increase effect on inflation get balanced out by the decrease in upwards pressure on consumption (groceries, rent, etc) when millions of people leave?
Posted by: 18-1 at September 03, 2025 12:05 PM (sKqQm)
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Does the price wage increase effect on inflation get balanced out by the decrease in upwards pressure on consumption (groceries, rent, etc) when millions of people leave?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at September 03, 2025 12:06 PM (GBKbO)
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150 Don't they know that the way to win at real estate is to bribe corrupt politicians to change zoning, lie and cheat on building codes, and maybe murder some rivals?
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 03, 2025 11:59 AM (iFTx/)
Maybe an "advanced rule" where you can get someone to change the color on a property, breaking and re-making monopolies. How to implement is the question. Oh, and Eminent Domain (where you can turn properties into Community Chance, Railroads, or Utilities).
Posted by: GWB at September 03, 2025 12:06 PM (RTQn+)
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Monopoly would be a great game with completely different rules.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 03, 2025 11:59 AM (iFTx/)
Maybe an "advanced rule" where you can get someone to change the color on a property, breaking and re-making monopolies. How to implement is the question. Oh, and Eminent Domain (where you can turn properties into Community Chance, Railroads, or Utilities).
Posted by: GWB at September 03, 2025 12:06 PM (RTQn+)
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Monopoly would be a great game with completely different rules.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at September 03, 2025 12:07 PM (GBKbO)
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Don't they know that the way to win at real estate is to bribe corrupt politicians to change zoning, lie and cheat on building codes, and maybe murder some rivals?
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 03, 2025 11:59 AM (iFTx/)
Maybe an "advanced rule" where you can get someone to change the color on a property, breaking and re-making monopolies. How to implement is the question. Oh, and Eminent Domain (where you can turn properties into Community Chance, Railroads, or Utilities).
Posted by: GWB at September 03, 2025 12:06 PM (RTQn+)
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Monopoly would be a great game with completely different rules.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at September 03, 2025 12:07 PM (GBKbO)
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They have that. It's called "Dungeons and Dragons."
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 03, 2025 11:59 AM (iFTx/)
Maybe an "advanced rule" where you can get someone to change the color on a property, breaking and re-making monopolies. How to implement is the question. Oh, and Eminent Domain (where you can turn properties into Community Chance, Railroads, or Utilities).
Posted by: GWB at September 03, 2025 12:06 PM (RTQn+)
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Monopoly would be a great game with completely different rules.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at September 03, 2025 12:07 PM (GBKbO)
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They have that. It's called "Dungeons and Dragons."
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 03, 2025 12:07 PM (iFTx/)
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Gotta "love" the media headline "After deadly attack on alleged narco boat." Alleged... Next they'll say it was a family on a boat ride
Posted by: It's me donna at September 03, 2025 12:08 PM (VE6XX)
155
PDT and the Polish President answering questions in the oval office. It would be very cool if PDT closes with the Jimmy Sturr band and dancers brought in.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at September 03, 2025 12:08 PM (gm9Sb)
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153 They have that. It's called "Dungeons and Dragons."
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 03, 2025 12:07 PM (iFTx/)
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*spends an hour making a character*
*dies of boredom before game can actually start*
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 03, 2025 12:07 PM (iFTx/)
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*spends an hour making a character*
*dies of boredom before game can actually start*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at September 03, 2025 12:08 PM (GBKbO)
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They have that. It's called "Dungeons and Dragons."
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 03, 2025 12:07 PM
NERRRRRRRRRRDS!!!!!
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 03, 2025 12:07 PM
NERRRRRRRRRRDS!!!!!
Posted by: Ogre at September 03, 2025 12:08 PM (ySpAZ)
158
I need to do more map reading of WWII battles.
I didn't realize Iwo Jima was literally by itself in the middle of the pacific.
I didn't realize Iwo Jima was literally by itself in the middle of the pacific.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 03, 2025 12:08 PM (FPR3/)
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Monopoly needs an update for modern audiences. Rules for gentrification to raise the value of low-rent properties, race riots and crime to drive down values, real-estate bubbles and market collapses.
Posted by: new rules for new times at September 03, 2025 12:09 PM (6g103)
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"Chutes and Ladders" and "Candyland" > Chess.
"Chutes and Ladders" and "Candyland" > Chess.
Posted by: Auspex at September 03, 2025 12:09 PM (Y8DZL)
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Does the price wage increase effect on inflation get balanced out by the decrease in upwards pressure on consumption (groceries, rent, etc) when millions of people leave?
Tariffs can only reduce inflation since they are a tax. Now prices can go up due to higher salaries, yes, but that's not inflation in the text book sense.
Now the deporting the illegals part also reduces actual inflation because almost all of them are also on welfare too. Even the ones that are working.
Tariffs can only reduce inflation since they are a tax. Now prices can go up due to higher salaries, yes, but that's not inflation in the text book sense.
Now the deporting the illegals part also reduces actual inflation because almost all of them are also on welfare too. Even the ones that are working.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 03, 2025 12:10 PM (sKqQm)
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PDT and the Polish President answering questions in the oval office. It would be very cool if PDT closes with the Jimmy Sturr band and dancers brought in.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at September 03, 2025 12:08 PM
And vodka shots. Many vodka shots. *
*yes, I know PDT doesn't drink
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at September 03, 2025 12:08 PM
And vodka shots. Many vodka shots. *
*yes, I know PDT doesn't drink
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 03, 2025 12:10 PM (ySpAZ)
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‘ Don't they know that the way to win at real estate is to bribe corrupt politicians to change zoning, lie and cheat on building codes, and maybe murder some rivals?’
If they added that I’d play Monopoly again.
‘ Don't they know that the way to win at real estate is to bribe corrupt politicians to change zoning, lie and cheat on building codes, and maybe murder some rivals?’
If they added that I’d play Monopoly again.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 03, 2025 12:10 PM (jbnUc)
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Oh, and Eminent Domain (where you can turn properties into Community Chance, Railroads, or Utilities).
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$200 for the R&R Railroad? Hell no. How about you pay me $20,000 for it instead, and then turn it into the R&R Park and Conservatory?
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$200 for the R&R Railroad? Hell no. How about you pay me $20,000 for it instead, and then turn it into the R&R Park and Conservatory?
Posted by: Ivan Drago at September 03, 2025 12:10 PM (TN0g+)
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159 Nail and hair weave salon on Baltic Ave.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at September 03, 2025 12:10 PM (gm9Sb)
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161 Now the deporting the illegals part also reduces actual inflation because almost all of them are also on welfare too. Even the ones that are working.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 03, 2025 12:10 PM (sKqQm)
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That sounds like a decrease in government spending.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 03, 2025 12:10 PM (sKqQm)
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That sounds like a decrease in government spending.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at September 03, 2025 12:10 PM (GBKbO)
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They have that. It's called "Dungeons and Dragons."
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 03, 2025 12:07 PM (iFTx/)
Also, Avalon Hill's D-Day.
Hey, it's all about accumulating territory and bankrupting your enemy (via attrition of units). Right?
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 03, 2025 12:07 PM (iFTx/)
Also, Avalon Hill's D-Day.
Hey, it's all about accumulating territory and bankrupting your enemy (via attrition of units). Right?
Posted by: GWB at September 03, 2025 12:10 PM (RTQn+)
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If it takes you an hour to make a character, you're playing the wrong edition.
Posted by: Make the Edition Wars Great Again at September 03, 2025 12:11 PM (6g103)
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167 Also, Avalon Hill's D-Day.
Hey, it's all about accumulating territory and bankrupting your enemy (via attrition of units). Right?
Posted by: GWB at September 03, 2025 12:10 PM (RTQn+)
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I feel that thrill in Total War games.
Just got Shogun 2, and all of its extra content, for $8.
Hey, it's all about accumulating territory and bankrupting your enemy (via attrition of units). Right?
Posted by: GWB at September 03, 2025 12:10 PM (RTQn+)
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I feel that thrill in Total War games.
Just got Shogun 2, and all of its extra content, for $8.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at September 03, 2025 12:11 PM (GBKbO)
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Monopoly needs an update for modern audiences. Rules for gentrification to raise the value of low-rent properties, race riots and crime to drive down values, real-estate bubbles and market collapses.
Posted by: new rules for new times at September 03, 2025 12:09 PM
Add in the ability to place Roof Koreans.
Posted by: new rules for new times at September 03, 2025 12:09 PM
Add in the ability to place Roof Koreans.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 03, 2025 12:11 PM (ySpAZ)
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...and yes, there is a great deal of strategy involved in "Sorry."
...and yes, there is a great deal of strategy involved in "Sorry."
Posted by: Auspex at September 03, 2025 12:12 PM (Y8DZL)
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Nice analysis and essay, Mannix -- thanks!
Posted by: ShainS -- Defund The Feral District Clown Courts at September 03, 2025 12:12 PM (CM8PF)
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Does the price wage increase effect on inflation get balanced out by the decrease in upwards pressure on consumption (groceries, rent, etc) when millions of people leave?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at September 03, 2025 12:06 PM (GBKbO)
the historical examples I can think of off the top of my head were the end of the brasero project after the end of WW2, and the black plague. Black plague drove labor costs up to the extent that it broke the hold feudalism had on its bound workers, and the end of importing Mexican ag workers for the duration of WW2 did not so much, since wages were more controlled during the period and the labor situation was far more mobile and free after the end of the program.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at September 03, 2025 12:06 PM (GBKbO)
the historical examples I can think of off the top of my head were the end of the brasero project after the end of WW2, and the black plague. Black plague drove labor costs up to the extent that it broke the hold feudalism had on its bound workers, and the end of importing Mexican ag workers for the duration of WW2 did not so much, since wages were more controlled during the period and the labor situation was far more mobile and free after the end of the program.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 03, 2025 12:12 PM (rbvCR)
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If they added that I’d play Monopoly again.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 03, 2025 12:10 PM (jbnUc)
Sounds to me like you just need a new Chance deck....
Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 03, 2025 12:10 PM (jbnUc)
Sounds to me like you just need a new Chance deck....
Posted by: GWB at September 03, 2025 12:12 PM (RTQn+)
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154 Gotta "love" the media headline "After deadly attack on alleged narco boat." Alleged... Next they'll say it was a family on a boat ride
a three hour tour.
a three hour tour.
a three hour tour.
a three hour tour.
Posted by: anachronda at September 03, 2025 12:12 PM (v3pYe)
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My chess-on-a-pc strategy was to get my killing pieces downfield and launch a decapitation strike
Posted by: Don Black at September 03, 2025 12:12 PM (AOsQT)
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Posted by: rickb223 at September 03, 2025 12:08 PM (FPR3/)
The entire pacific island campaign was like that. The goal was to establish forward operating bases from which air power could be projected towards Japan.
The entire pacific island campaign was like that. The goal was to establish forward operating bases from which air power could be projected towards Japan.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead...Wearing Pants and Working at September 03, 2025 12:12 PM (luW68)
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Hadrian, one of Mac's several very worst moments. And Biff, learning the hard way was kinda the norm for US forces at that stage, from Kasserine to Savo to Buna. We got better.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 03, 2025 12:13 PM (U/Byj)
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Monopoly needs an update for modern audiences. Rules for gentrification to raise the value of low-rent properties, race riots and crime to drive down values, real-estate bubbles and market collapses.
Posted by: new rules for new times at September 03, 2025 12:09 PM
Add in the ability to place Roof Koreans.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 03, 2025 12:11 PM (ySpAZ)
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Squatter and Feces pieces.
Posted by: new rules for new times at September 03, 2025 12:09 PM
Add in the ability to place Roof Koreans.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 03, 2025 12:11 PM (ySpAZ)
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Squatter and Feces pieces.
Posted by: ShainS -- Defund The Feral District Clown Courts at September 03, 2025 12:13 PM (CM8PF)
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Sounds to me like you just need a new Chance deck....
Posted by: GWB at September 03, 2025 12:12 PM (RTQn+)
And the Do not go to jail no bail space
Posted by: GWB at September 03, 2025 12:12 PM (RTQn+)
And the Do not go to jail no bail space
Posted by: It's me donna at September 03, 2025 12:13 PM (VE6XX)
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Maybe we could have a counterpoint to the 100 Comment Rule. After 200 comments, you can no longer discuss the subject of the post.
Maybe we could have a counterpoint to the 100 Comment Rule. After 200 comments, you can no longer discuss the subject of the post.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 03, 2025 12:13 PM (kkTda)
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Add in the ability to place Roof Koreans.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 03, 2025 12:11 PM (ySpAZ)
You know, it looks to me like we need a Monopoly: AoS Edition. How about we put it together and "sell" it like with the Deplorable Gourmet? It could be a hit!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 03, 2025 12:11 PM (ySpAZ)
You know, it looks to me like we need a Monopoly: AoS Edition. How about we put it together and "sell" it like with the Deplorable Gourmet? It could be a hit!
Posted by: GWB at September 03, 2025 12:14 PM (RTQn+)
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>...and yes, there is a great deal of strategy involved in "Sorry."
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nothing like the total mindf*** that is Chutes And Ladders
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nothing like the total mindf*** that is Chutes And Ladders
Posted by: Don Black at September 03, 2025 12:14 PM (AOsQT)
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A thought occurred to me the other day. Yes, a thought, try not to faint. I wonder if one reason why otherwise seemingly sensible people are freaking the fuck out is because President Trump is working within a very short amount of time to radically correct 50+ years of America taking it up the pooper on foreign trade and illegal immigration. What may seem like a radical overcorrection is nothing more than putting us closer to where we should have been if responsible people had been minding the store in the first place. So he's rocking the fuck out of the boat but it's the only way to right its course and keep it from sinking. And people generally would rather sink slowly and imperceptibly than be jostled a bit.
Posted by: Just a thought at September 03, 2025 12:14 PM (TbWk/)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 03, 2025 12:15 PM (2GCMq)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at September 03, 2025 12:15 PM (97NWC)
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54 Gotta "love" the media headline "After deadly attack on alleged narco boat." Alleged... Next they'll say it was a family on a boat ride
Posted by: It's me donna at September 03, 2025 12:08 PM (VE6XX)
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"They were coming here to attend Harvard, h8r!"
Posted by: It's me donna at September 03, 2025 12:08 PM (VE6XX)
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"They were coming here to attend Harvard, h8r!"
Posted by: ShainS -- Defund The Feral District Clown Courts at September 03, 2025 12:15 PM (CM8PF)
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Police called after 5-year-old boy leaves home, walks to Chick-fil-A alone: 'Am I going to jail' ?
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Oddly enough, though, if the 5 year old boy decides he’s really a girl and wants to cut his whang off and wear a dress, we’ve got to let him do it.
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Oddly enough, though, if the 5 year old boy decides he’s really a girl and wants to cut his whang off and wear a dress, we’ve got to let him do it.
Posted by: Common Tater at September 03, 2025 12:15 PM (/4VRy)
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You know, it looks to me like we need a Monopoly: AoS Edition. How about we put it together and "sell" it like with the Deplorable Gourmet? It could be a hit!
Posted by: GWB at September 03, 2025 12:14 PM (RTQn+)
And don't forget the homeless encampment space
Posted by: GWB at September 03, 2025 12:14 PM (RTQn+)
And don't forget the homeless encampment space
Posted by: It's me donna at September 03, 2025 12:15 PM (VE6XX)
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You could always try The Campaign for North Africa. Avg play time for 10 players is only 1500 hours.
Posted by: PabloD at September 03, 2025 12:15 PM (eAUBi)
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rickb223 Spruance had suggested going for Iwo months earlier, before it was fortified (as it turned out, we didn't know in detail about the fortification effort). Unfortunately it didn't happen (other calls on resources).
One of the costliest small delays in the war.
Iwo was a triple whammy. Denied Japan early warning and fighter base while giving us forward fighter and vital bingo (emergency) airfields for B-29s, almost exactly half way between Japan and the Marianas.
One of the costliest small delays in the war.
Iwo was a triple whammy. Denied Japan early warning and fighter base while giving us forward fighter and vital bingo (emergency) airfields for B-29s, almost exactly half way between Japan and the Marianas.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 03, 2025 12:17 PM (U/Byj)
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You could always try The Campaign for North Africa. Avg play time for 10 players is only 1500 hours.
Posted by: PabloD at September 03, 2025 12:15 PM (eAUBi)
But, even at that, it's very compressed compared to how long it was IRL.
Posted by: PabloD at September 03, 2025 12:15 PM (eAUBi)
But, even at that, it's very compressed compared to how long it was IRL.
Posted by: GWB at September 03, 2025 12:17 PM (RTQn+)
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I once played Stalingrad with my brother. Eventually, after a long time, we got to a point where neither of us would make a move.
I once played Stalingrad with my brother. Eventually, after a long time, we got to a point where neither of us would make a move.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 03, 2025 12:18 PM (kkTda)
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I bought Uboat on Xbox and it's buggy as Hell! Hopefully they'll patch it soon because it looks like a cool game if the buttons just worked.⁰
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur! at September 03, 2025 12:18 PM (L/fGl)
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You could always try The Campaign for North Africa. Avg play time for 10 players is only 1500 hours.
Posted by: PabloD at September 03, 2025 12:15 PM (eAUBi)
Pretty funny youtube vids about it.
You have to calculate water shipments, and apparently the Italians use more water because of their pasta rations.
Posted by: PabloD at September 03, 2025 12:15 PM (eAUBi)
Pretty funny youtube vids about it.
You have to calculate water shipments, and apparently the Italians use more water because of their pasta rations.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at September 03, 2025 12:18 PM (ufFY8)
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BTW, libs on X are defending drug-smuggling boats' right to free passage, rather than being blown up by Trump
Posted by: Don Black at September 03, 2025 12:19 PM (AOsQT)
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196 BTW, libs on X are defending drug-smuggling boats' right to free passage, rather than being blown up by Trump
Posted by: Don Black at September 03, 2025 12:19 PM (AOsQT)
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"Due process!"
Posted by: Don Black at September 03, 2025 12:19 PM (AOsQT)
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"Due process!"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at September 03, 2025 12:19 PM (GBKbO)
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…we need a Monopoly: AoS Edition…
Posted by: GWB
Go directly to the barrel. Do not pass NOOD, do not collect 200 bathroom tokens.
Posted by: GWB
Go directly to the barrel. Do not pass NOOD, do not collect 200 bathroom tokens.
Posted by: mindful webworker - roll twelve-sided dice at September 03, 2025 12:19 PM (Hus0x)
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196 BTW, libs on X are defending drug-smuggling boats' right to free passage, rather than being blown up by Trump
yesterday they were making fun of him for blowing up "a canoe"
yesterday they were making fun of him for blowing up "a canoe"
Posted by: Black Orchid at September 03, 2025 12:19 PM (Pv3Rg)
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198 …we need a Monopoly: AoS Edition…
Posted by: GWB
Go directly to the barrel. Do not pass NOOD, do not collect 200 bathroom tokens.
Posted by: mindful webworker - roll twelve-sided dice at September 03, 2025 12:19 PM (Hus0x)
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There is no "Get out of Barrel free" card.
There is only humiliation.
Posted by: GWB
Go directly to the barrel. Do not pass NOOD, do not collect 200 bathroom tokens.
Posted by: mindful webworker - roll twelve-sided dice at September 03, 2025 12:19 PM (Hus0x)
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There is no "Get out of Barrel free" card.
There is only humiliation.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at September 03, 2025 12:19 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at September 03, 2025 12:20 PM (ufFY8)
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My favorite board game is Aggravation. Mostly because of a lot of game nights with my family involved that game.
Posted by: NR Pax at September 03, 2025 12:20 PM (BpO1e)
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They grift. A lot.
Posted by: Crusader at September 03, 2025 11:16 AM
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The lesser known song by Faith No More.
Posted by: Crusader at September 03, 2025 11:16 AM
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The lesser known song by Faith No More.
Posted by: Darth Randall at September 03, 2025 12:20 PM (5C97+)
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>I once played Stalingrad with my brother. Eventually, after a long time, we got to a point where neither of us would make a move.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
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sounds a lot like the actual battle
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
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sounds a lot like the actual battle
Posted by: Don Black at September 03, 2025 12:20 PM (AOsQT)
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Congress is too busy with the Epstein files to govern.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 03, 2025 12:20 PM (kUxzU)
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> There is no "Get out of Barrel free" card.
There is only humiliation.
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Sounds like me, when I comment...
There is only humiliation.
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Sounds like me, when I comment...
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 03, 2025 12:20 PM (Q4IgG)
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Go directly to the barrel. Do not pass NOOD, do not collect 200 bathroom tokens.
Occasional card draws make the entire site italicized or centered.
Occasional card draws make the entire site italicized or centered.
Posted by: NR Pax at September 03, 2025 12:20 PM (BpO1e)
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203 They grift. A lot.
Posted by: Crusader at September 03, 2025 11:16 AM
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The lesser known song by Faith No More.
Posted by: Darth Randall at September 03, 2025 12:20 PM (5C97+)
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STATION!
Posted by: Crusader at September 03, 2025 11:16 AM
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The lesser known song by Faith No More.
Posted by: Darth Randall at September 03, 2025 12:20 PM (5C97+)
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STATION!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at September 03, 2025 12:20 PM (GBKbO)
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Oh my, I did Avalon Hill games and subscribed to Strategy and Tactics for a while, but I haven't even opened a board game in 50+ years.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 03, 2025 11:56 AM (kkTda)
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Yup. Just checked. Still have Midway and Panzer Blitz stored high up in the closet.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 03, 2025 11:56 AM (kkTda)
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Yup. Just checked. Still have Midway and Panzer Blitz stored high up in the closet.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at September 03, 2025 12:21 PM (ElQWS)
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‘ And don't forget the homeless encampment space’
What a great way to drive down the price of a property. Like having a “Cause spontaneous race riot on opponent’s property.” Chance card.
‘ And don't forget the homeless encampment space’
What a great way to drive down the price of a property. Like having a “Cause spontaneous race riot on opponent’s property.” Chance card.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 03, 2025 12:21 PM (jbnUc)
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Yup. Just checked. Still have Midway and Panzer Blitz stored high up in the closet.
Wooden Ships and Iron Men in my closet.
Wooden Ships and Iron Men in my closet.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at September 03, 2025 12:22 PM (ufFY8)
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>…we need a Monopoly: AoS Edition…
Posted by: GWB
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there's a 'Willowed' square
if you land on it, you have to back to your previous square, as though your turn never happened
Posted by: GWB
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there's a 'Willowed' square
if you land on it, you have to back to your previous square, as though your turn never happened
Posted by: Don Black at September 03, 2025 12:22 PM (AOsQT)
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211 Yup. Just checked. Still have Midway and Panzer Blitz stored high up in the closet.
Wooden Ships and Iron Men in my closet.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at September 03, 2025 12:22 PM (ufFY
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No one check ace's.
Wooden Ships and Iron Men in my closet.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at September 03, 2025 12:22 PM (ufFY
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No one check ace's.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at September 03, 2025 12:22 PM (GBKbO)
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205 Congress is too busy with the Epstein files to govern.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 03, 2025 12:20 PM (kUxzU)
Did Massie have his big news conference on it ?
Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 03, 2025 12:20 PM (kUxzU)
Did Massie have his big news conference on it ?
Posted by: It's me donna at September 03, 2025 12:23 PM (VE6XX)
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They have that. It's called "Dungeons and Dragons."
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 03, 2025 12:07 PM (iFTx/)
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*spends an hour making a character*
*dies of boredom before game can actually start*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes
Or play Traveller, and only the character dies in character creation.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 03, 2025 12:07 PM (iFTx/)
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*spends an hour making a character*
*dies of boredom before game can actually start*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes
Or play Traveller, and only the character dies in character creation.
Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at September 03, 2025 12:23 PM (OUMaO)
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109 I played Strat-o-Matic baseball alone for awhile.
I played alone once and got nothing but grief for it.
I played alone once and got nothing but grief for it.
Posted by: Paul Rubens at September 03, 2025 12:23 PM (G5+As)
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>>>Tariffs can only reduce inflation since they are a tax. Now prices can go up due to higher salaries, yes, but that's not inflation in the text book sense.
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That assumes there's not an increase in production. With and an increase in production there are more products putting downward pressure on inflation.
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That assumes there's not an increase in production. With and an increase in production there are more products putting downward pressure on inflation.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 03, 2025 12:23 PM (/P8AX)
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Probably wasted more time on Panzer General on PC back in the 90s than any other board game.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at September 03, 2025 12:23 PM (XvL8K)
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203 They grift. A lot.
Posted by: Crusader at September 03, 2025 11:16 AM
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The lesser known song by Faith No More.
Posted by: Darth Randall at September 03, 2025 12:20 PM (5C97+)
They grift and Army Navy Air Force and Marines
They grift in public and they grift behind the scenes
(THEY GRIFT ALOT)
From public coffers
(THEY GRIFT ALOT)
From private funds
(THEY GRIFT ALOT)
They gonna grift until they've conned everyone yeah!
Whoa whoa oh oh
Posted by: Crusader at September 03, 2025 11:16 AM
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The lesser known song by Faith No More.
Posted by: Darth Randall at September 03, 2025 12:20 PM (5C97+)
They grift and Army Navy Air Force and Marines
They grift in public and they grift behind the scenes
(THEY GRIFT ALOT)
From public coffers
(THEY GRIFT ALOT)
From private funds
(THEY GRIFT ALOT)
They gonna grift until they've conned everyone yeah!
Whoa whoa oh oh
Posted by: Dirty job but someone's gotta do it at September 03, 2025 12:23 PM (TbWk/)
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I track tariff devlopments for my day job.
If SCOTUS doesn't uphold Trump there's a scenario where we have to give back over $1 trillion in collected fees. Trump warned the appellate court about this: It'll be 1929 all over again.
The markets only reacted a smidgen, which says it thinks SCOTUS will do the right thing. Let us pray!
If SCOTUS doesn't uphold Trump there's a scenario where we have to give back over $1 trillion in collected fees. Trump warned the appellate court about this: It'll be 1929 all over again.
The markets only reacted a smidgen, which says it thinks SCOTUS will do the right thing. Let us pray!
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 03, 2025 12:24 PM (Rxqk1)
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Posted by: rhomboid at September 03, 2025 12:17 PM (U/Byj)
It's one thing to read about that kind of strategy and another to be in that area and see the vast emptiness and the distances between safe sites to land an airplane, let alone one that's damaged of that has casualties aboard. Lots of people really have no idea how big the Pacific really is.
It's one thing to read about that kind of strategy and another to be in that area and see the vast emptiness and the distances between safe sites to land an airplane, let alone one that's damaged of that has casualties aboard. Lots of people really have no idea how big the Pacific really is.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead...Wearing Pants and Working at September 03, 2025 12:24 PM (luW68)
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215 Or play Traveller, and only the character dies in character creation.
Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at September 03, 2025 12:23 PM (OUMaO)
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I got the video game Kingdom Come for free, but I've yet to actually install it (it's like 50 gigs big).
But, I know that you can make choices that leads you to dying in a prison in a fire before the game actually starts. I think that if you play on maximum difficulty, you can actually die while being born.
Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at September 03, 2025 12:23 PM (OUMaO)
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I got the video game Kingdom Come for free, but I've yet to actually install it (it's like 50 gigs big).
But, I know that you can make choices that leads you to dying in a prison in a fire before the game actually starts. I think that if you play on maximum difficulty, you can actually die while being born.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at September 03, 2025 12:24 PM (GBKbO)
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Well, it does, to some extent. IF there is no productivity increase.
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It’s still a shitty, deceptive argument. In the immediate post world war 2.0 inflation was very bad. During the war there weren’t any consumer goods to buy, and everyone was working 6 day work weeks. The government spent gazillions of dollars they didn’t have, and lots of money they did were in War Bonds.
They had lots of Public Service announcements about everyone needs to work together to end inflation. Don’t pay more for goods. All this vague anodyne boiler plate. Like it’s your fault you can no longer afford meat or clothes or whatever.
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It’s still a shitty, deceptive argument. In the immediate post world war 2.0 inflation was very bad. During the war there weren’t any consumer goods to buy, and everyone was working 6 day work weeks. The government spent gazillions of dollars they didn’t have, and lots of money they did were in War Bonds.
They had lots of Public Service announcements about everyone needs to work together to end inflation. Don’t pay more for goods. All this vague anodyne boiler plate. Like it’s your fault you can no longer afford meat or clothes or whatever.
Posted by: Common Tater at September 03, 2025 12:24 PM (/4VRy)
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You know, it looks to me like we need a Monopoly: AoS Edition. How about we put it together and "sell" it like with the Deplorable Gourmet? It could be a hit!
Posted by: GWB at September 03, 2025 12:14 PM (RTQn+)
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IIRC, Yudhishthira's Dice actually created an AoS parody Monopoly game board some years ago.
Posted by: GWB at September 03, 2025 12:14 PM (RTQn+)
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IIRC, Yudhishthira's Dice actually created an AoS parody Monopoly game board some years ago.
Posted by: ShainS -- Defund The Feral District Clown Courts at September 03, 2025 12:25 PM (CM8PF)
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All my games and books got ripped off out of a storage unit I had while I was overseas in the Army.
Posted by: Reforger at September 03, 2025 12:25 PM (Mptn1)
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I've bought a number of games in the past few years that are still either shrink-wrapped or unpunched. Like many other hobbies (or books), I tend to accumulate things NOW under the assumption that one day I'll be able to sit down and play (or read, or tinker).
Posted by: PabloD at September 03, 2025 12:25 PM (aX6IF)
Posted by: Mr. Hilter at September 03, 2025 12:25 PM (jbnUc)
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209 Oh my, I did Avalon Hill games and subscribed to Strategy and Tactics for a while, but I haven't even opened a board game in 50+ years.
Same. That change happened when I met my wife.
Same. That change happened when I met my wife.
Posted by: Auspex at September 03, 2025 12:26 PM (Y8DZL)
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Did Massie have his big news conference on it ?
Posted by: It's me donna at September 03, 2025 12:23 PM (VE6XX)
Yeah, watched it on Agenda-FreeTV. Massie and MTG want two more signatures on the discharge petition to force a vote on the bill. Victims spoke generally about how Epstein was evil. One lawyers said they have a list of people that abused the women, but are scared to publish it (lawsuits, threats, etc.). MTG offered to read the list in the House.
Posted by: It's me donna at September 03, 2025 12:23 PM (VE6XX)
Yeah, watched it on Agenda-FreeTV. Massie and MTG want two more signatures on the discharge petition to force a vote on the bill. Victims spoke generally about how Epstein was evil. One lawyers said they have a list of people that abused the women, but are scared to publish it (lawsuits, threats, etc.). MTG offered to read the list in the House.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at September 03, 2025 12:26 PM (ufFY8)
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That was one of, if not THE most deceptive arguments by “expert” economists. Buying cheap foreign goods “keeps inflation low”.
Posted by: Common Tater at September 03, 2025 12:26 PM (/4VRy)
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Go directly to the barrel. Do not pass NOOD, do not collect 200 bathroom tokens.
Occasional card draws make the entire site italicized or centered.
Posted by: NR Pax at September 03, 2025 12:20 PM
You blew the margins. Lose a turn.
Occasional card draws make the entire site italicized or centered.
Posted by: NR Pax at September 03, 2025 12:20 PM
You blew the margins. Lose a turn.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 03, 2025 12:27 PM (ySpAZ)
Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at September 03, 2025 12:27 PM (OUMaO)
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They had lots of Public Service announcements about everyone needs to work together to end inflation. Don’t pay more for goods. All this vague anodyne boiler plate. Like it’s your fault you can no longer afford meat or clothes or whatever.
Posted by: Common Tater at September 03, 2025 12:24 PM (/4VRy)
see also: price controls. You don't need a blue eagle to control prices like Wilson, you can do it through various "programs and plans"
I recently heard the comment on X: "Governments are only efficient at two things, killing people and creating black markets"
I am still trying to falsify that argument
Posted by: Common Tater at September 03, 2025 12:24 PM (/4VRy)
see also: price controls. You don't need a blue eagle to control prices like Wilson, you can do it through various "programs and plans"
I recently heard the comment on X: "Governments are only efficient at two things, killing people and creating black markets"
I am still trying to falsify that argument
Posted by: Kindltot at September 03, 2025 12:28 PM (rbvCR)
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Late to this thread but what strikes me is why the fuck do we bother having elections. We have hundreds of black robed rulers in place already, ruling us with an iron fist. So again, why bother?
Bottom line is that we're not getting out of this constitutionally, in my opinion. Not when the other side, which has no respect for it whatsoever, cynically uses it as shield and cudgel to beat us with whenever they lose. As I often think and say, when there are no rules, then THERE ARE NO RULES.
Bottom line is that we're not getting out of this constitutionally, in my opinion. Not when the other side, which has no respect for it whatsoever, cynically uses it as shield and cudgel to beat us with whenever they lose. As I often think and say, when there are no rules, then THERE ARE NO RULES.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at September 03, 2025 12:28 PM (RCw7C)
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One lawyers said they have a list of people that abused the women, but are scared to publish it (lawsuits, threats, etc.). MTG offered to read the list in the House.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at September 03, 2025 12:26 PM (ufFY
Should we believe all the women ?At this point I'm skeptical of some of it... Make no mistake I think Epstein was a monster but what can we trust now that Biden and the Dems have had control for years ?
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at September 03, 2025 12:26 PM (ufFY
Should we believe all the women ?At this point I'm skeptical of some of it... Make no mistake I think Epstein was a monster but what can we trust now that Biden and the Dems have had control for years ?
Posted by: It's me donna at September 03, 2025 12:28 PM (VE6XX)
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I watched it at home. I thought the first one was somewhere between OK and pretty good, so no reason not to watch the sequel. It was far inferior to the first one.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 03, 2025 11:45 AM (iFTx/)
Maybe you need to find something better to do with your spare time. Get a Suburban, and start overhauling the transmission.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 03, 2025 11:45 AM (iFTx/)
Maybe you need to find something better to do with your spare time. Get a Suburban, and start overhauling the transmission.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 03, 2025 12:29 PM (uUD0P)
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Nood.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 03, 2025 12:29 PM (ySpAZ)
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There should be a Monopoly: Private Equity edition. Chance cards will be things like Bribe Official, Lobby Government, Price Fixing, Dump Worthless Subprime-mortgage-based Securities, TARP Bailout
Posted by: Bring it current with the times at September 03, 2025 12:29 PM (TbWk/)
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> There is no "Get out of Barrel free" card.
There is only humiliation.
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Sounds like me, when I comment...
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 03, 2025 12:20 PM (Q4IgG)
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* snort *
There is only humiliation.
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Sounds like me, when I comment...
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 03, 2025 12:20 PM (Q4IgG)
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* snort *
Posted by: ShainS -- Defund The Feral District Clown Courts at September 03, 2025 12:29 PM (CM8PF)
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BTW, libs on X are defending drug-smuggling boats' right to free passage, rather than being blown up by Trump
Posted by: Don Black at September 03, 2025 12:19 PM
The next boat that the Navy orders to heave-to and prepare to be boarded, will.
Posted by: Don Black at September 03, 2025 12:19 PM
The next boat that the Navy orders to heave-to and prepare to be boarded, will.
Posted by: toby928 at September 03, 2025 12:31 PM (jc0TO)
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*spends an hour making a character*
*dies of boredom before game can actually start*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes
You know what I don't understand and hate? Microtransactions for purely cosmetic crap. For just $4.99 you can put your medieval knight in a festive little hats!
*dies of boredom before game can actually start*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes
You know what I don't understand and hate? Microtransactions for purely cosmetic crap. For just $4.99 you can put your medieval knight in a festive little hats!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur! at September 03, 2025 12:31 PM (L/fGl)
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It's remarkable how many times our objectives and forces used were dictated by fighter range and available shipping and transport. Like, Anzio landed two divisions because no more landing craft could be spared.
It's remarkable how many times our objectives and forces used were dictated by fighter range and available shipping and transport. Like, Anzio landed two divisions because no more landing craft could be spared.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 03, 2025 12:32 PM (kkTda)
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241 You know what I don't understand and hate? Microtransactions for purely cosmetic crap. For just $4.99 you can put your medieval knight in a festive little hats!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur! at September 03, 2025 12:31 PM (L/fGl)
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They exist people people will pay for them.
I don't, but others do.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur! at September 03, 2025 12:31 PM (L/fGl)
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They exist people people will pay for them.
I don't, but others do.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at September 03, 2025 12:32 PM (GBKbO)
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Should we believe all the women ?At this point I'm skeptical of some of it..
Interestingly, one reporter asked about a woman who recanted her testimony against Dershowitz. They shut him down instantly.
Another woman talked about how she got $200 per Epstein massage, and Epstein wanted her to bring additional girls ($200 each). She did this for two years (she started when she was 16) and thr cops showed up, and pretty much threatened her with trafficking. Well, she sort of got herself in further trouble; she was a victim AND dumbass trafficker.
Interestingly, one reporter asked about a woman who recanted her testimony against Dershowitz. They shut him down instantly.
Another woman talked about how she got $200 per Epstein massage, and Epstein wanted her to bring additional girls ($200 each). She did this for two years (she started when she was 16) and thr cops showed up, and pretty much threatened her with trafficking. Well, she sort of got herself in further trouble; she was a victim AND dumbass trafficker.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at September 03, 2025 12:33 PM (ufFY8)
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Go directly to the barrel. Do not pass NOOD, do not collect 200 bathroom tokens.
Posted by: mindful webworker - roll twelve-sided dice at September 03, 2025 12:19 PM (Hus0x)
What did I do? I didn't italicize anything in my comment (that time)!
Posted by: mindful webworker - roll twelve-sided dice at September 03, 2025 12:19 PM (Hus0x)
What did I do? I didn't italicize anything in my comment (that time)!
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