THE MORNING RANT: This Land is Whose Land - Should the U.S. Government Offload Some of its Vast Undeveloped Land Holdings?

The issue of the federal government owning too much land in the western United States was a big issue among conservatives in the ‘80s and ‘90s. With the government owning 80% of Nevada, 64% of Utah, plus huge portions of other states, the “Sagebrush Rebellion” advocated, unsuccessfully, for the government to sell off excess land, or transfer it to state control to administer.

I was firmly aligned with that objective.

It was almost surprising to me in the past year or so to learn that the modern Sagebrush Rebellion is about keeping those lands under the control of the federal government. Outdoorsmen whom I read and greatly respect such as Braxton McCoy successfully fought plans by Senator Mike Lee to sell off a few million acres of federal lands, and their reasoning did cause me to re-consider my prior position. Most admirably, the new sagebrush guys want to preserve as much undeveloped American soil as possible, not only for use by those who love the outdoors, but also to keep it closer to how God created it.

But reading about what is going on in Canada with the government exercising emergency powers to prohibit its citizens from accessing “Crown land” (e.g. government owned land) has me re-re-thinking the issue.

“Nova Scotia bans hiking and use of vehicles in woods as dry conditions raise wildfire fears” [CBC – 8/05/2025]

The Nova Scotia government has announced it's banning hiking, camping, fishing and use of vehicles such as ATVs in the woods due to an elevated wildfire risk.

Casting a worm into a lake doesn’t cause a forest fire, but it really doesn’t matter to the Canadian ruling class, which has such a hatred of personal freedom that it will use any excuse to oppress its citizens. There was some backlash to the ban, of course, so the ruling left-wing party then stated that it’s necessary to ban Canadian citizens from woods and parkland because they might hurt themselves walking their dogs in nature.

��BREAKING -- The wildfire narrative has changed

Liberal leaders have realized the "hiking causes fires" isnt working

NOW

They are telling Canadians that "we're banning you from the woods because you could break your leg" walking your dog. WHAT?!? pic.twitter.com/rzY1tAhv4v
— Tablesalt �� (@Tablesalt13) August 11, 2025

The American left looks on in envy at how Canada represses its people. I can’t help but note that the demographic makeup of the American outdoorsmen fighting to preserve federally owned land are the same demographic for whom the left professes their hatred and seeks to punish.

The left will likely gain power again in Washington someday, and I do not trust them to administer federal land holdings in the manner outdoorsmen desire. Glenn Beck wrote a piece last month that made some good counterpoints in this intra-conservative debate. In this piece titled “The Real Land Grab Isn’t Mike Lee’s – It’s Biden’s ’30 by 30’” he wrote:

According to the latest online frenzy, [Senator] Lee wants to sell off national parks, bulldoze public lands, gut hunting and fishing rights, and hand America’s wilderness to Amazon, BlackRock, and the Chinese Communist Party. None of that is true.
His proposal would have protected against the real land-grab already under way — the one pushed by the Biden administration. In 2021, Biden launched a plan to “conserve” 30% of America’s lands and waters by 2030. This effort follows the United Nations-backed “30 by 30” initiative, which seeks to place one-third of all land and water under government control.
Ask yourself: Is the U.N. focused on preserving your right to hunt and fish? Or are radical environmentalists exploiting climate fears to restrict your access to American land?

Mr. Beck then discussed how the Biden / UN agenda would subsequently push for a “50 by 50” agenda, whereby the government would own 50% of all US lands by 2050. Beck also pointed out something perhaps even more pernicious:

That brings me to a piece of legislation most Americans haven’t even heard of: the Sustains Act. Passed in 2023, the law allows the federal government to accept private funding from organizations, such as BlackRock or the Bill Gates Foundation, to support “conservation programs.” In practice, the law enables wealthy elites to buy influence over how American land is used and managed.
The real threat is the creeping partnership between unelected global elites and our own government, a partnership designed to consolidate land, control rural development, and keep Americans penned in so-called “15-minute cities.”

I realize now that my 1990s support of that Sagebrush Rebellion was in line with my “principled” anti-government / libertarian attitude of that era. I’ve matured and abandoned my libertarian idealism, in part because of complicated issues like this one. I don’t want the entire West carved into ranchettes and strip malls, but neither do I want the land to all be “nature preserves” controlled by “philanthropaths” who would ban the rest of us from those lands.

Pondering the issue, there are so many political factors to consider:

• The left considers all U.S. land stolen land. Their “land acknowledgements” are clearly paving the way for a retrocession of federal lands to “indigenous peoples.”

• Outdoors was the healthiest place to be during the Covid era. Yet the Covid communists took the opportunity at that time to deny access to parks and beaches. That was a test run for bigger freedom lockdowns, but they’ve already proven they will lock us indoors.

• President AOC (or equivalent) would be thrilled to deny the hated “outdoorsmen demographic” the right to hunt and fish on federal lands.

• The left has already surrendered city parks to their criminal constituencies. Why do we think they won’t also forfeit federally owned lands to criminals, aliens, or an American caliphate.

• Caught up in the religious fervor of the Church of Climate, the left quickly transitioned from protecting the environment to despoiling it. Covering undeveloped land with solar panels and wind farms has become a form of evangelical mission work for them. They have embraced the slaughter of raptors and whales as a sacrifice to their angry climate God, and their religious fervor has compelled them to transition from “Save the Whales” 40 years ago to “Kill the Whales” now. They would gladly sacrifice wilderness areas in service to their cult.

I don’t have a principled position to advocate here, nor even a “take.” Common sense and a realistic understanding of the world we live in versus the ideal we’d desire should help guide conservatives in this debate. Obviously, the national parks are untouchable, but returning a great deal of federal lands to the states would ensure that the radical left can’t ever get its hands on all of America’s wilderness.

[buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 11:00 AM

Comments

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1 Definitely sell.iff federalmlands or give it to the ststes.

Posted by: tankdemon at August 29, 2025 11:01 AM (jfvTO)

2 Hola

Posted by: Thanatopsis at August 29, 2025 11:01 AM (GYt5+)

3 Sponge!

Posted by: rickb223 at August 29, 2025 11:01 AM (UZOIv)

4 Ha! First to stake a claim in this comments section.

Posted by: tankdemon at August 29, 2025 11:02 AM (jfvTO)

5 I thought LDS owned half of NV and beaucoup tracts of land out west? and lots of farmland too??

Posted by: kallisto at August 29, 2025 11:02 AM (dCxaZ)

6 Fedgov shouldn't own shit.

It should be people or the states.
Same way the Fedgov doesn't have money. Otherwise, the Fedgov doesn't need my taxes. It can sell off shit.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 29, 2025 11:03 AM (UZOIv)

7 Whoa, whoa, whoa there! These are public lands. You're not allowed to be here.

Posted by: Park Ranger at August 29, 2025 11:03 AM (JW6Az)

8 Ha! First to stake a claim in this comments section.
Posted by: tankdemon

Fifteen yard penalty and loss of down for misspellings!

Posted by: rickb223 at August 29, 2025 11:04 AM (UZOIv)

9 Corgis called.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 29, 2025 11:05 AM (UZOIv)

10 If Canada sucked any harder, Michigan would ejaculate all over it.

Posted by: Go Bucks at August 29, 2025 11:05 AM (a1QbA)

11 Offload. Have the states take ownership.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at August 29, 2025 11:05 AM (VSf4p)

12 Of course, take precautions to ensure the land doesn't end up under the control of foreign governments or NGOs.

Posted by: tankdemon at August 29, 2025 11:05 AM (jfvTO)

13 from downstairs

Trump Aways Chickens Out. It was an insanely stupid meme when Trump was negotiating tariffs and extended the deadline a few times.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 29, 2025 11:01 AM (iFTx/)

thank you Mr. Blade

Posted by: kallisto at August 29, 2025 11:05 AM (dCxaZ)

14 Yeah, give it to the states.

Posted by: Bulg at August 29, 2025 11:07 AM (77rzZ)

15 Morning.

Posted by: Robert at August 29, 2025 11:07 AM (1Yy3c)

16 Nuke the transgendered whales!

Posted by: Man From Nantucket at August 29, 2025 11:07 AM (G5+As)

17 If you want to keep government lands natural then you make those lands a national park so citizens can have easy access. You don’t just say it’s government property , no trespassing.

Posted by: polynikes at August 29, 2025 11:07 AM (EYmYM)

18 This is a complicated issue and hard to determine which is the best solution, because it largely depends on who you think will be in power.

But I keep defaulting to the position that I don't understand why the federal government holds so much undeveloped land "inside" states. If the feds hold more land inside a state than the state does, why is it even a state?

Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 29, 2025 11:07 AM (iFTx/)

19 I wish I knew when I was a kid how absolutely full of shit people are.

Posted by: eleven at August 29, 2025 11:07 AM (fV+MH)

20 Fifteen yard penalty and loss of down for misspellings!
Posted by: rickb223

But you only ran a second off the clock by typing that fast, so you've got that going for you.

Posted by: t-bird at August 29, 2025 11:08 AM (JW6Az)

21 Fox News: Wealthy enclave's sewage reveals higher than average cocaine levels in the water

Nantucket authorities launched wastewater testing program this summer to monitor island-wide drug trends

"The sewage in New England's exclusive Nantucket retreat is full of cocaine, according to local authorities, who this summer began testing it to monitor potential drug use in a popular summer getaway for the rich and powerful."

https://tinyurl.com/47n62aeh

Posted by: Robert at August 29, 2025 11:08 AM (1Yy3c)

22 If it's so important for the Feds to control lands, then it's high time to lock up land on the East Coast. Maybe start with Vermont or even New York. Plenty of land just waiting for that special protection.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 29, 2025 11:08 AM (kUxzU)

23 Most of those I follow on Twitter who were upset about Lee's proposal live in the East. They simply have *no* clue about the huge imbalance here in the West. The 30/30 thing and 2023 law show how important it is to get those lands out of Federal control.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at August 29, 2025 11:08 AM (lFFaq)

24 The only land the government should own are military bases. States are capable of running parks and recreation.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 29, 2025 11:09 AM (dxWFK)

25 11 Offload. Have the states take ownership.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory
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Yep. Subsidiarity--the lowest level you can push managing a specific policy usually is the best as far as reflecting the electoral preferences.

Posted by: whig at August 29, 2025 11:09 AM (ctrM5)

26 I wish I knew when I was a kid how absolutely full of shit people are.
Posted by: eleven

Yeah. I would have told school where they could put my permanent record.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 29, 2025 11:09 AM (UZOIv)

27 And it's time for a law that states, if more than 50% of the land in a state is controlled by the Feds, it reverts to being a territory

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 29, 2025 11:09 AM (kUxzU)

28 Canada has gone full retard. Never go full retard.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 29, 2025 11:09 AM (Kp8LC)

29 "The sewage in New England's exclusive Nantucket retreat is full of cocaine, according to local authorities, who this summer began testing it to monitor potential drug use in a popular summer getaway for the rich and powerful."
_____

There was so much cocaine in Nantucket...

Posted by: Muldoon Bait at August 29, 2025 11:10 AM (Dv3i1)

30 willowed:
292 282 Look at Vivek. Ivy league education. Made a fortune at a young age. Tried to get into politics and was told nah bruh, go away.

Even with all the money club membership is still what counts.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at August 29, 2025 10:55 AM (wrRTB)

Vivek killed his national political career when he popped off with that weird rant about how he hated American Cheerleaders and H1B imports were way better at American jobs than actual Americans were. The moment that happened everyone in Trump's campaign realized he was political poison and quietly helped him off the stage.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 29, 2025 11:10 AM (uWKK8)

31 Misspellings are all part of the race to post!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at August 29, 2025 11:10 AM (wZlsB)

32 There was so much cocaine in Nantucket...
Posted by: Muldoon Bait at August 29, 2025 11:10 AM (Dv3i1)

It came in a bucket……

Posted by: polynikes at August 29, 2025 11:10 AM (EYmYM)

33 Misspellings are all part of the race to post!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit

*sonrt

Posted by: rickb223 at August 29, 2025 11:11 AM (UZOIv)

34 Oh, they have a clue all right. I mentioned those percentages every time the discussion came up and suggested they lock up land on the East Coast for a change. Not interested. They want the entire Western US under Federal control.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 29, 2025 11:12 AM (kUxzU)

35 23 Most of those I follow on Twitter who were upset about Lee's proposal live in the East. They simply have *no* clue about the huge imbalance here in the West. The 30/30 thing and 2023 law show how important it is to get those lands out of Federal control.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette
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Most of them do not care about things that do not affect them. Urbanites are usually the worst about it and most insular because they are most divorced from the consequences of their stupid political choices. NYC has impoverished the rest of NY State by its demands and control over voting.

Likewise, those wealthy urban and suburbanites want their idyllic second homes/vacation places in the hinterlands but don't want the natives living there to make a decent wage by cutting timber, mining, and grazing cattle.

Privatize the gains, socialize the losses.

Posted by: whig at August 29, 2025 11:12 AM (ctrM5)

36 Fifteen yard penalty and loss of down for misspellings!
Posted by: rickb223 at August 29, 2025 11:04 AM (UZOIv)

I didn't have time to let the copy editor make the requisite corrections.

Posted by: tankdemon at August 29, 2025 11:12 AM (jfvTO)

37 @21 it's actually not cocaine that shows up in the test , it's the metabolites. Once a person snorts the cocaine there body processes it and produces a different chemical in the urine. Nantucket people be hoovering a lot of blow, they're aren't flushing it

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 29, 2025 11:12 AM (Kp8LC)

38 Misspellings are all part of the race to post!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit

Wee kneed kommon scenz spelling kontroll!!

Posted by: Tonypete at August 29, 2025 11:12 AM (cYBz/)

39 The only land the government should own are military bases. States are capable of running parks and recreation.

yeah, I don't like all that land under fed control, because then its use is subject to the whims of whichever administration holds office. And that has usually toggled between demorat and GOPe in my lifetime.

Reagan and Trump are the outliers

Posted by: kallisto at August 29, 2025 11:12 AM (dCxaZ)

40 19 I wish I knew when I was a kid how absolutely full of shit people are.
Posted by: eleven at August 29, 2025 11:07 AM (fV+MH)

No kidding. Would've saved me a great deal of misery, pain, exploitation, and loss.

Posted by: People suck at August 29, 2025 11:13 AM (TbWk/)

41 A hot new conspiracy theory I saw is that the new pope is actually Jewish. And it’s all part of a plan for the Joos to take over the Catholic Church that has been brewing for hundreds of years.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald

Jews acquire Catholics in leveraged hostile takeover. Speaking on conditions of anonymity, one Jewish leader said he expects after restructuring, they will earn a ROI "that would make Jeff Bezos green with envy."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at August 29, 2025 11:13 AM (TWDaV)

42 Idaho is something like 70% gooberment land. Only the incompetency of gooberment has ket OUR LAND open.

Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at August 29, 2025 11:13 AM (bMlVe)

43 Vivek killed his national political career when he popped off with that weird rant about how he hated American Cheerleaders and H1B imports were way better at American jobs than actual Americans were. The moment that happened everyone in Trump's campaign realized he was political poison and quietly helped him off the stage.
Posted by: Tom Servo

I'm willing to give him a second chance in Ohio as long as Trump admin fixes H1B and Vivek shuts up about it.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 29, 2025 11:13 AM (Dv3i1)

44 Someone whose main claim to fame is habitual tardiness should not be allowed to claim a First!! Bailiff should whack his pee-pee and all increments should be frozen.

Posted by: Tough Love-Scared Straight at August 29, 2025 11:14 AM (G5+As)

45 I thought LDS owned half of NV and beaucoup tracts of land out west? and lots of farmland too??

LDS doesn’t even control Salt Lake City since it was overrun by Cali refugees. NV only has 2 major cities because FedGov owns most of the interior of the state. Area 51 and the Tonopah Testing Range, and there’s Nellis Air Force Base too.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 29, 2025 11:14 AM (QZThv)

46 You want misspellings . On an overnight thread I once "shit" a coyote

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 29, 2025 11:14 AM (Kp8LC)

47 I always wondered why it was so important to turn the Columbia River Gorge into a National Scenic Area, but not to do the same to Monterey Bay in California. The reason is that rich people own the land in Monterey and there was money to be made selling off the orchards in the Gorge and shutting down logging.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 29, 2025 11:15 AM (kUxzU)

48 Vivek killed his national political career when he popped off with that weird rant about how he hated American Cheerleaders and H1B imports were way better at American jobs than actual Americans were. The moment that happened everyone in Trump's campaign realized he was political poison and quietly helped him off the stage.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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Didn't appear to have much to do with DOGE either. Vivek reminds me of Bobby Jindal--Bobby turned nasty into a Never Trumper after he, as governor, drove LA into a ditch trying to polish his credentials for running for prezzie.

Mebbe the people of OH will dodge that outcome if Vivek becomes governor.

Posted by: whig at August 29, 2025 11:15 AM (ctrM5)

49 You want misspellings . On an overnight thread I once "shit" a coyote
Posted by: Smell the Glove

I bet that hurt.

Just saying.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 29, 2025 11:15 AM (cYBz/)

50 Hetch Hetchy reservoir drowned a canyon as beautiful as Yosemite Valley...to supply water to San Francisco.

That's your stinking government working for you.

Tear down THAT dam.

Posted by: torabora at August 29, 2025 11:15 AM (KtOUo)

51 A hot new conspiracy theory I saw is that the new pope is actually Jewish. And it’s all part of a plan for the Joos to take over the Catholic Church that has been brewing for hundreds of years.

ummm...

Jesus was a Jew.

and so was Peter, the Rock on whom the Catholic Church was founded.

so.....

Posted by: kallisto at August 29, 2025 11:15 AM (dCxaZ)

52 I suspect there are a lot of developers waiting in the wings to jump on lands currently held by the Feds.

Rare earth minerals.
Housing development.
Data centers.
Petroleum exploration.

And so on...

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 29, 2025 11:15 AM (Q4IgG)

53 The new Pope is Jewish? Looks like Mogen David for the sacramental wine

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 29, 2025 11:15 AM (Kp8LC)

54 When you read English literature from the 18th and 19th centuries, you will see frequent references to "poaching" and the landlords constant efforts to brutally suppress it. (it's usually a backdrop to the story about the Lady of the Manor casually letting the saucy stable boys see she hasn't got any knickers on under her corset and skirts)

So what's really going on is that England had a long tradition of common lands where the working poor could hunt rabbits and other things to try and supplement their meager diets. The landed gentry slowly exerted more and more control over these lands, gradually making any entry onto land they "owned" (read: were given a license to occupy by the Crown) an offense punished by heavy prison sentences, or worse. And thus condemning the common people of the area to malnutrition and even starvation.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 29, 2025 11:16 AM (uWKK8)

55 A hot new conspiracy theory I saw is that the new pope is actually Jewish. And it’s all part of a plan for the Joos to take over the Catholic Church that has been brewing for hundreds of years.

ummm...
Jesus was a Jew.
and so was Peter, the Rock on whom the Catholic Church was founded.

so.....
Posted by: kallisto

SEE!! IT'S RIGHT IN FRONT OF OUR FACES!!!!!

Posted by: Tonypete at August 29, 2025 11:16 AM (cYBz/)

56 I seem to remember Clinton grabbing a bunch of land in his tenure, focused primarily on conservative states and districts.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 29, 2025 11:17 AM (2WIwB)

57 hahahaha

we sure did fool you!!

Jews have been in charge of the Catholic Church since its inception, lolz

Posted by: kallisto, pointing and laughing at the dummies at August 29, 2025 11:17 AM (dCxaZ)

58 I am pretty hard-core on this. National Parks, and National Monuments, and Wilderness Areas are often much too large for the purpose for which they were created. Both here and in the USA. Canada doesn't have the latter two types of takings, but National Parks get created for those purposes. I would support paring down such tracts to just those parts most visible to and enjoyed by tourists and hikers and campers. All such tracts of land should be open to exploration for, and production of petroleum and minerals, except for a few key features. Logging and grazing, also, where practicable. And the public should have right of entry into all such lands, too.

I don't want to see El Capitan torn down as a granite quarry, but there's no good reason not to mine gold or uranium from some remote corner of Grand Canyon NP. Or drill for oil in Banff NP.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 29, 2025 11:17 AM (ZE4/d)

59 @54 Mellors the gamekeeper says " hello m'lady"

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 29, 2025 11:18 AM (Kp8LC)

60 44 Someone whose main claim to fame is habitual tardiness should not be allowed to claim a First!! Bailiff should whack his pee-pee and all increments should be frozen.
Posted by: Tough Love-Scared Straight at August 29, 2025 11:14 AM (G5+As)

Jealous much? That bailiff had better bring a telephone pole.

Posted by: tankdemon at August 29, 2025 11:18 AM (jfvTO)

61 I didn't have time to let the copy editor make the requisite corrections.
Posted by: tankdemon

LOL.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 29, 2025 11:18 AM (UZOIv)

62 The new Pope is Jewish? Looks like Mogen David for the sacramental wine

he has quite the diverse lineage. Part Italian (Sicily and Genova), part Caribbean Black, part French I believe...
and mostly Chicagoan.

Posted by: kallisto at August 29, 2025 11:19 AM (dCxaZ)

63 Hmmm

If there’s no private hunting or fishing, and you’re not allowed to own a farm or raise livestock, then the govt has complete control of the food supply.

Sounds fishy to me.

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 29, 2025 11:19 AM (W2Pud)

64 DA JOOZ KILLEDED JESUS

Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 29, 2025 11:20 AM (iFTx/)

65 So what's really going on is that England had a long tradition of common lands where the working poor could hunt rabbits and other things to try and supplement their meager diets. The landed gentry slowly exerted more and more control over these lands, gradually making any entry onto land they "owned" (read: were given a license to occupy by the Crown) an offense punished by heavy prison sentences, or worse. And thus condemning the common people of the area to malnutrition and even starvation.
Posted by: Tom Servo

Pretty much. The British crown and aristocracy also slowly strangled freeholds by excessive taxation of land and regulation. Which is why those with enough money sought city charters, etc. to save them selves from being tax raped by the barons as well as the Crown. Easier to serve one SOB than a multitude.

Posted by: whig at August 29, 2025 11:20 AM (ctrM5)

66 ‘ President AOC (or equivalent) ’ will signal the need for a general rebellion.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 29, 2025 11:20 AM (jbnUc)

67 52 I suspect there are a lot of developers waiting in the wings to jump on lands currently held by the Feds.

Rare earth minerals.
Housing development.
Data centers.
Petroleum exploration.

And so on...
Posted by: Martini Farmer

A lot of local pols will have a chance to serve the people of their state/locale, make a ton of money, or both. A chance to show their quality. The way it was meant to be. Seriously, the people in those states should decide what to do with their land through their representatives.

In the meantime US maps should print Federal lands in gray, so you can see really how small the state of Nevada, for example, actually is.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 29, 2025 11:20 AM (Dv3i1)

68 Vivek killed his national political career when he popped off with that weird rant about how he hated American Cheerleaders and H1B imports were way better at American jobs than actual Americans were. The moment that happened everyone in Trump's campaign realized he was political poison and quietly helped him off the stage.
Posted by: Tom Servo

Party is important. If he had popped off with that as a democrat, he'd be golden.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 29, 2025 11:21 AM (UZOIv)

69 Vivek killed his national political career when he popped off with that weird rant about how he hated American Cheerleaders and H1B imports were way better at American jobs than actual Americans were. The moment that happened everyone in Trump's campaign realized he was political poison and quietly helped him off the stage.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 29, 2025 11:10 AM (uWKK

Well, that and the goofy name that sounds like a command to butt-rape a Hindu fortune-teller.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 29, 2025 11:21 AM (ZE4/d)

70 Time for a morning constitutional. Later Horde

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 29, 2025 11:22 AM (Kp8LC)

71 64 DA JOOZ KILLEDED JESUS
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 29, 2025 11:20 AM (iFTx/)

Technically the Romans, but why let facts get in the way of irrational bigotry?

Posted by: tankdemon at August 29, 2025 11:22 AM (jfvTO)

72 40 19 I wish I knew when I was a kid how absolutely full of shit people are.
Posted by: eleven

No kidding. Would've saved me a great deal of misery, pain, exploitation, and loss.
Posted by: People suck
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Eh, it is the curse of humanity--but there is a remedy for individuals if not humanity. The Lord.

Posted by: whig at August 29, 2025 11:22 AM (ctrM5)

73 53 The new Pope is Jewish? Looks like Mogen David for the sacramental wine
Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 29, 2025 11:15 AM (Kp8LC)

When I was young I was an altar boy in the Lutheran Church, helped the pastors with communion (Picked up the trays, helped clean, etc) and I learned that our communion wine was always Mogan David Ruby Port.

that's some strong stuff.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 29, 2025 11:23 AM (uWKK8)

74 Well, that and the goofy name that sounds like a command to butt-rape a Hindu fortune-teller.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Vivek, go ram a swamy.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 29, 2025 11:23 AM (UZOIv)

75 I’m for maintaining areas as national parks that need protecting from development . I don’t believe a large percentage of the government owned land falls under that category.

Posted by: polynikes at August 29, 2025 11:24 AM (EYmYM)

76 My hypothesis some years back, not sure if it’s possible, but it’s clear resource extraction has been curtailed, usually under the guise of an endangered cockroach.

Surveys done in the 1960s found enormous proven reserves of petroleum, Shale oil, coal, natural gas in Montana, Wyoming, Utah representing hundreds of years worth of domestic energy. The way I heard it, the USA is the “Saudi Arabia” of Coal. High quality coal. Then I read the USA ranks 17th in world coal reserves. Which is it?

Leftist politicians in any case swoop in an declare it off limits and declare new parks and monuments without any input from the states. Bureaucrats make it impossible to do business. I wonder if they have pledged these resources as collateral somehow. No logging, no mining, no nothing.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 29, 2025 11:24 AM (+E7BZ)

77 I always wondered why it was so important to turn the Columbia River Gorge into a National Scenic Area, but not to do the same to Monterey Bay in California. The reason is that rich people own the land in Monterey and there was money to be made selling off the orchards in the Gorge and shutting down logging.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 29, 2025 11:15 AM (kUxzU)

And then they fucked up the scenery with those giant flapdoodles (wind fans).

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 29, 2025 11:24 AM (ZE4/d)

78 This is from 2022 and shows a good breakdown of what the Feds control

https://tinyurl.com/557u8hu9

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 29, 2025 11:24 AM (kUxzU)

79 We need more National Parks along with a vigorous breeding program for Bison. We can eliminate more rude, uncouth, Chinese "tourists" this way.

Posted by: Pamplona For Dummies at August 29, 2025 11:25 AM (G5+As)

80 Vivek killed his national political career when he popped off with that weird rant about how he hated American Cheerleaders and H1B imports were way better at American jobs than actual Americans were. The moment that happened everyone in Trump's campaign realized he was political poison and quietly helped him off the stage.
Posted by: Tom Servo

I'm willing to give him a second chance in Ohio as long as Trump admin fixes H1B and Vivek shuts up about it.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 29, 2025 11:13 AM (Dv3i1)
__

Vivek could be the next OH governor, and he'll do at least as well as that powerbottom Dewine.

Do I trust him? No. He always seemed too opportunistic and slimy to me. Some sketchy shit in his background too.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 29, 2025 11:25 AM (iFTx/)

81 A culture that celebrates the prom queen over the math olympiad champ, or the jock over the valedictorian, will not produce the best engineers," he wrote. "A culture that venerates Cory from 'Boy Meets World,' or Zach & Slater over Screech in 'Saved by the Bell,' or ‘Stefan’ over Steve Urkel in 'Family Matters,' will not produce the best engineers."

There's the quote. It wasn't about disrespecting cheerleaders. It was about improving our society by graduating more engineers. We can graduate engineers who are cheerleaders too! That would be HOT!

Posted by: torabora at August 29, 2025 11:25 AM (KtOUo)

82 start by resuming the ability to homestead

(that was the first thing they took)

small steps?

Posted by: yoeman at August 29, 2025 11:25 AM (7KhJk)

83 Time to update old Woody.
This land is their land
This land ain't your land
From the maritime prov....ence
To Vancouver Island
This land is their land.
This land ain't meant
For you or thee.

(sung off key with odd accents)

Posted by: From about That Time at August 29, 2025 11:26 AM (n4GiU)

84 You will all bow down before me.

Posted by: That one National Park employee who has the keys to the restrooms at August 29, 2025 11:26 AM (PiwSw)

85 Mogan David Ruby Port.

that's some strong stuff.
Posted by: Tom Servo
========
Port is spiked wine. Baptists make do with Grape Juice so you get high with Christ instead of alcohol.

Was always amused that various explanations from Baptist elders was that when the Bible said Jesus drank wine--it was magically transformed to grape juice or some other nonsense.

Posted by: whig at August 29, 2025 11:26 AM (ctrM5)

86 The backside chatter about the Feds selling off some of the land they hold, and yea, they're going to sell it not just give it to the states, is that certain entities will benefit from it.

The left saying it'll be Trump cronies hell bent on strip mines and oil wells.

The right saying it'll be envrioweenies. Funded by deep blue NGO - like outfits.

As with anything the Feds do, there is a significant chance it will be a major clusterfuck.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 29, 2025 11:26 AM (Q4IgG)

87 Living at the intersection of Safetyism Street and Expertise Blvd, where we preserve our natural resources so that future generations will not be allowed to enjoy them either.

Posted by: muldoon at August 29, 2025 11:26 AM (/iMjX)

88
Meet the Democrat Newest Manly Man!

https://tinyurl.com/4h5dct68

He looks like Beaker from the Muppets.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 29, 2025 11:26 AM (iJfKG)

89 And note that they like to lock up land as wilderness areas. That prevents any development and ensures that most Americans won't have access to use it.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 29, 2025 11:27 AM (kUxzU)

90 19 I wish I knew when I was a kid how absolutely full of shit people are.
Posted by: eleven at August 29, 2025 11:07 AM (fV+MH)

Bingo.

Even the people you think are the most serious, regimented, no-nonsense hardasses are probably full of shit.

Posted by: XTC at August 29, 2025 11:27 AM (UnA8+)

91 I don’t trust the Fed guv to make good decisions. Trump won’t be prez forever… so sell off some land I think it’s a good idea

Oh and Canada… what happened to their govt??

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 29, 2025 11:27 AM (6RwsA)

92 And then they fucked up the scenery with those giant flapdoodles (wind fans).
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 29, 2025 11:24 AM (ZE4/d)

Gawd. AOP you've pushed one of my buttons!
Whoever came up with those should be drawn and quartered...slowly. I hate those things with the burning heat of a thousand suns.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 29, 2025 11:28 AM (2WIwB)

93 If the goal is to stop development of "public land" why would moving it to state control change that?

And as we saw with COVID the government had no problem restricting access to "public land" for idiotic reasons

Posted by: 18-1 at August 29, 2025 11:29 AM (sKqQm)

94 While we’re at it, get rid of the Injun reservations, too.

Posted by: Bulg at August 29, 2025 11:29 AM (77rzZ)

95 The new Pope is Jewish? Looks like Mogen David for the sacramental wine
Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 29, 2025 11:15 AM (Kp8LC)

Cover charges for mass. Subscription payments for confession.

Posted by: Communion wafers half off at August 29, 2025 11:29 AM (TbWk/)

96 Even the people you think are the most serious, regimented, no-nonsense hardasses are probably full of shit.
Posted by: XTC at August 29, 2025 11:27 AM (UnA8+)

This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: James Mattis, the Warrior Monk at August 29, 2025 11:29 AM (PiwSw)

97 To simplify matters, any program that involves Blackrock, the UN, or the Bill Gates Foundation should be illegal, unconstitutional, AND a crime against humanity.

Posted by: JTB at August 29, 2025 11:29 AM (yTvNw)

98
Hand over federal lands that are not parks or military bases to the states.

Enact a good and hard rule that lands so transferred may not be sold to foreign governments or to private entities above a certain size, resource-wise. No more private oligarchs' preserves!

Remove all tax exemptions for "environmental charities".

I am tired of the "smart and certified" set trying to bundle the rest of us on to de facto reservations.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at August 29, 2025 11:29 AM (Tv15w)

99 Technically the Romans, but why let facts get in the way of irrational bigotry?
Posted by: tankdemon at August 29, 2025 11:22 AM (jfvTO)

Come on, the Pharisees had the Romans kill Jesus on their behalf. But I don’t know why people focus on it. It was preordained by God in order to save the world.

Posted by: polynikes at August 29, 2025 11:29 AM (EYmYM)

100 96 Even the people you think are the most serious, regimented, no-nonsense hardasses are probably full of shit.
Posted by: XTC at August 29, 2025 11:27 AM (UnA8+)

This is about me, isn't it?
Posted by: James Mattis, the Warrior Monk at August 29, 2025 11:29 AM (PiwSw)

Got it in one.

Posted by: XTC at August 29, 2025 11:30 AM (UnA8+)

101 People lens the same problem differently. As long as we're both trying to make things better im good with that. Just don't rob me to make your costs free.

Posted by: torabora at August 29, 2025 11:30 AM (KtOUo)

102 Yeah, me too. As soon as the Scenic area ends, they filled up the Gorge with windmills. Wanted to put in a bunch of solar too. Klickitat county is a conservative area, so they must be punished.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 29, 2025 11:30 AM (kUxzU)

103 Do I trust him? No. He always seemed too opportunistic and slimy to me. Some sketchy shit in his background too.
Posted by: Elric The Blade
========
Pretty much the standard MO for most of our politicians. The very people that want the power are usually the ones that if you really knew them, shouldn't have it. HOA officials often demonstrate this very thing.

Most of us voters have to rely like Milton Friedman said--incentivize doing the people's will and punish them when they don't. That is why those in power always try to insulate themselves from the electorate via cheating, spending opponents into oblivion, rigging elections via lawfare, etc.

Posted by: whig at August 29, 2025 11:30 AM (ctrM5)

104 Another problem in all this is that illegals have very different notions about what to do with public lands then citizens.

How many wildfires have been started in the last few years by an illegal burning something where they weren't supposed to?

Posted by: 18-1 at August 29, 2025 11:31 AM (sKqQm)

105
Cover charges for mass. Subscription payments for confession.
Posted by: Communion wafers half off

Sell 50-50 tickets during the sermon / homily. No one listens to those anyway.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at August 29, 2025 11:31 AM (Tv15w)

106 45 I thought LDS owned half of NV and beaucoup tracts of land out west? and lots of farmland too??

LDS doesn’t even control Salt Lake City since it was overrun by Cali refugees. NV only has 2 major cities because FedGov owns most of the interior of the state. Area 51 and the Tonopah Testing Range, and there’s Nellis Air Force Base too.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 29, 2025 11:14 AM (QZThv)

Nellis is a relatively small base at the northeast corner of North Las Vegas, though. Doesn't really take up much land. But yeah Tonopah and the other Navy test area to the north take up huge amounts of land. I have no idea what they do with the land they own in the eastern part of the state.

Posted by: Farquad at August 29, 2025 11:32 AM (NtFTC)

107 During the lockdowns they “closed” the Boundary Waters canoe area, Quetico Superior national forest, a huge wilderness area of lakes and forests. Millions of acres. I was talking to a Minnesotan and he didn’t see anything wrong with this.

How are you going to catch (or spread) the Flu in the middle of a gigantic forest? They really broke people’s brains a long time ago. Covid just exposed it completely

Posted by: Common Tater at August 29, 2025 11:32 AM (+E7BZ)

108
Vivek's spouting off about American workers, and cheerleaders and H1B workers,

sounds exactly like something a Hindu of the Brahmin Class would say.

That's a philosophy that's profoundly unAmerican.

Do not want...particularly in gov't.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 29, 2025 11:33 AM (iJfKG)

109 The USGS has an online map of US "PADs" PAD = Protected Area Database

It includes all areas, even offshore, that are under some sort of Federal management/control.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 29, 2025 11:33 AM (Q4IgG)

110 Communion wafers are basically matzo, right?

Posted by: Bulg at August 29, 2025 11:33 AM (77rzZ)

111 ‘ President AOC (or equivalent) ’ will signal the need for a general rebellion.

Or the end of one.

Posted by: Oddbob at August 29, 2025 11:33 AM (w03bZ)

112 I'm not Catholic, but if any Jewish people want to adopt me into the tribe, I'm all for it.

Especially if it pisses off any muzzies.

Posted by: XTC at August 29, 2025 11:35 AM (UnA8+)

113 They will dupe us along with the Indians.
Indians, We mingled them.
We are the Indians now.

Posted by: Dreamingrobot at August 29, 2025 11:35 AM (CXb/I)

114 The nice thing about the windmill electric generators is they wear out PDQ. They're so expensive few get replaced. After all why would you use a more expensive electric generator when there are cheaper alternatives?

That's the exact problem...we let leftists rob us to solve their problems.

Posted by: torabora at August 29, 2025 11:35 AM (KtOUo)

115 94 While we’re at it, get rid of the Injun reservations, too.
Posted by: Bulg
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I would agree--basically distribute the existing lands equally among the residents on the rez and figure out some way, mebbe stocks, warrants, etc., to distribute ownership on any rez improvements and natural resources like minerals, casinos, etc. among the tribe.

Posted by: whig at August 29, 2025 11:36 AM (ctrM5)

116
How does one say "bide-a-wee" in Spanish?

A "Bide-a-Wee National Forest" in Español would insist upon itself.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at August 29, 2025 11:36 AM (Tv15w)

117 105
‘ Cover charges for mass. Subscription payments for confession.
Posted by: Communion wafers half off

Sell 50-50 tickets during the sermon / homily. No one listens to those anyway.’

Is selling indulgences still on the books?
That was a good income stream at one time.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 29, 2025 11:36 AM (jbnUc)

118 Bureau of Land grab and Mismanagement

a dumpster fire of mismanagement

Posted by: yoeman at August 29, 2025 11:36 AM (7KhJk)

119 Rumor control had it years ago there is an extremely rich vein of gold ore in the “Chocolate Range” of some AFB or bombing range in Nevada or California. The gubbmint quietly eminent domained that particular parcel and folded it into their Off Limits parcel of eleventy gazillion acres.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 29, 2025 11:36 AM (+E7BZ)

120 Cover charges for mass. Subscription payments for confession.
Posted by: Communion wafers half off

Sell 50-50 tickets during the sermon / homily. No one listens to those anyway.

---------

Reserve a pew in advance on Fandango for a modest convenience fee.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 29, 2025 11:37 AM (JkO4W)

121 That's the exact problem...we let leftists rob us to solve their problems.
Posted by: torabora
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That is the essence of modern government to rob Peter to pay Paul. Classic liberal governments aim more at protection of rights and property than monetary and regulatory redistribution.

Posted by: whig at August 29, 2025 11:37 AM (ctrM5)

122 The United States government owns 640 million acres of land.

It owes $40 trillion.

If the US Government sold every acre it owned,
It would have to receive $62,500 per acre to pay off the sovereign debt.

Posted by: How Bankrupt Are We at August 29, 2025 11:39 AM (43by1)

123 The large windmills use a lot of oil. Synthetic oil in the gearboxes. Several hundred dollars a gallon or whatever.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 29, 2025 11:39 AM (+E7BZ)

124 "How are you going to catch (or spread) the Flu in the middle of a gigantic forest? They really broke people’s brains a long time ago. Covid just exposed it completely
Posted by: Common Tater "
**************
I dont normally give PA.gov much credit but in 2020 the PA Fish & Boat commission opened trout season early at the start of the covid lock down and encouraged people to go fishing especially in family or small groups. I noticed a lot of younger couples doing a kind of "date" fishing since normal dating venues were closed.

Posted by: Cosda at August 29, 2025 11:39 AM (VfAKd)

125 I am amused by the fees to use federal parks.
Obviously it costs some money to run a park, but shouldn't this be a priority if fed gov won't sell the land?

And I mean Obamaphones for illegals are a priority but getting people to get exercise in the great outdoors is not?

Posted by: 18-1 at August 29, 2025 11:40 AM (sKqQm)

126 Reserve a pew in advance on Fandango for a modest convenience fee.
Posted by: Cicero

Of course, you want the VIP parking, right?

Posted by: Higher Authority Parking, Inc. at August 29, 2025 11:40 AM (G5+As)

127 Eh, it is the curse of humanity--but there is a remedy for individuals if not humanity. The Lord.
Posted by: whig at August 29, 2025 11:22 AM (ctrM5)

He wasn't much help. All those years of praying my guts out and I might as well have been praying to my sock drawer.

Posted by: At least socks comfort your feet at August 29, 2025 11:40 AM (TbWk/)

128 Interesting development in VA - a black Democratic money guy (BET TV's co-founder Robert Johnson) gave Winsome Sears $500K in protest for Abigail Spanberger's campaign response to the racist sign. He's always been Blacks 1st, and I guess, this could be the vote/party split Winsome, and really the down ticket guys, need to steal an unwinnable election...

Posted by: Nova Local at August 29, 2025 11:40 AM (tOcjL)

129 they have employees that take privately owned ground belonging to Indian individuals and revert it to the reservation

Posted by: yoeman at August 29, 2025 11:40 AM (7KhJk)

130
Sounds exactly like something a Hindu of the Brahmin Class would say.

That's a philosophy that's profoundly unAmerican.

Do not want...particularly in gov't.
Posted by: naturalfake

That goes double for tech. That those assholes thought that they were in any position to lecture us or rule us on matters regarding race or racial relations was infuriating. Straighten up your own bigoted homelands first.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at August 29, 2025 11:41 AM (Tv15w)

131 While we’re at it, get rid of the Injun reservations, too.
Posted by: Bulg

If casinos are legal for one group of anybodys, they should be legal for everyone.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 29, 2025 11:41 AM (cYBz/)

132 The Mayor of Baltimore is asking for more ATF, DEA and FBI (but not CBP) to help reduce crime.

This is similar to the federal land problem:

I DON'T WANT TO HAVE MY TAX MONEY CONFISCATED AND SEIZED TO SUPPLY STATES WITH PARKS AND CITIES WITH FEDERALIZED LAW ENFORCEMENT

you want your own parks and own law enforcement - pay for it yourself, quit socializing the costs on me when I have zero benefit from underwriting your state/city's irresponsibility and shirking of duty to its own citizens.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at August 29, 2025 11:41 AM (nAS9C)

133 The large windmills use a lot of oil. Synthetic oil in the gearboxes. Several hundred dollars a gallon or whatever.
Posted by: Common Tater at August 29, 2025 11:39 AM (+E7BZ)

Of course, that oil could be recycled, like motor oil is. Just collect it in old mayonnaise jars, and drop it off at Pep Boys.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 29, 2025 11:42 AM (TxCfB)

134 112 I'm not Catholic, but if any Jewish people want to adopt me into the tribe, I'm all for it.

Especially if it pisses off any muzzies.

Posted by: XTC at August 29, 2025 11:35 AM (UnA8+)

Well, you could still become Catholic...the door is always open...

Posted by: Nova Local at August 29, 2025 11:42 AM (tOcjL)

135 111
‘ President AOC (or equivalent) ’ will signal the need for a general rebellion.

Or the end of one.’

The idea that we live in a world where we can safeguard government land or anything else against a future lawless’Rat administration is fantasy.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 29, 2025 11:43 AM (jbnUc)

136 Whoa, whoa, whoa there! These are public lands. You're not allowed to be here.
Posted by: Park Ranger at August 29, 2025 11:03 AM (JW6Az)

No recreating!

Posted by: Ranger Roger at August 29, 2025 11:43 AM (tGVva)

137 > The United States government owns 640 million acres of land.
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I mentioned the Feds were thinking of selling land. That's true. They're also considering leasing some lands.

Those lands that might be leased are probably the ones with REM, gold, uranium or anything else of value.
- Pay someone else to service the land
- Take a huge cut
- Profit

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 29, 2025 11:43 AM (Q4IgG)

138 If casinos are legal for one group of anybodys, they should be legal for everyone.

The Injuns have far more free and loose hunting and fishing privileges that American citizens.

All in the service of making the people to whom the Constitution is supposed to protect, be second-class citizens who must beg and plead with authority to enjoy God Given Rights.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at August 29, 2025 11:44 AM (nAS9C)

139 Well, you could still become Catholic...the door is always open...
Posted by: Nova Local

Should be plenty of spots open now that Pope Leo has said Catholic pols that love infanticide need to straighten up.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 29, 2025 11:44 AM (cYBz/)

140 That's the exact problem...we let leftists rob us to solve their problems.
Posted by: torabora at August 29, 2025 11:35 AM (KtOUo)

"We" don't but our rulers do. And they don't solve problems they just wrest ever more money and power to themselves.

Posted by: It's not consensual at August 29, 2025 11:44 AM (TbWk/)

141 I am amused by the fees to use federal parks.
Obviously it costs some money to run a park, but shouldn't this be a priority if fed gov won't sell the land?

And I mean Obamaphones for illegals are a priority but getting people to get exercise in the great outdoors is not?
Posted by: 18-1 at August 29, 2025 11:40 AM (sKqQm)
________

The fees and other bullshit are a deliberate attempt to keep as much of the unwashed deplorables out as possible. Which I sorta get because even with all the fees and bullshit, the parks are very busy and crowded at peak times. Which is strange, given the insanely large tracts of land under federal control. Why isn't more of this open?

Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 29, 2025 11:46 AM (iFTx/)

142 122 The United States government owns 640 million acres of land.

It owes $40 trillion.

If the US Government sold every acre it owned,
It would have to receive $62,500 per acre to pay off the sovereign debt.
Posted by: How Bankrupt Are We

Let's do it! Then we can start again and see how fast we can get it to $40 trillion again.
- Standard Issue Representative

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 29, 2025 11:47 AM (Dv3i1)

143 I mentioned the Feds were thinking of selling land. That's true. They're also considering leasing some lands.

That seems reasonable.

There must be a clause included that requires that for every 1000 acres of usable land that is leased, the lessee must also take management of 10 acres of inner city as well.

We'll start with Baltimore, Memphis, St. Louis, Detroit, New Orleans and such areas.

Posted by: How Bankrupt Are We at August 29, 2025 11:47 AM (43by1)

144 With all the annual "wildfires" in Canada, I must assume that Ranger Gord is no longer on duty and has retired.

Posted by: Towering Inferno at August 29, 2025 11:47 AM (G5+As)

145 Maybe start with Vermont or even New York. Plenty of land just waiting for that special protection.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 29, 2025 11:08 AM (kUxzU)

The Nature Conservancy is way ahead of you.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at August 29, 2025 11:47 AM (L5An7)

146 Vivek loves India more than US!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at August 29, 2025 11:48 AM (wZlsB)

147
Why isn't more of this open?
Posted by: Elric The Blade

Helloooooooo!!!!!

Posted by: Delta Smelt, Spotted Owls, and Their Pals at August 29, 2025 11:49 AM (Tv15w)

148 Vivek needs to be deported.

Posted by: How Bankrupt Are We at August 29, 2025 11:49 AM (43by1)

149 75 I’m for maintaining areas as national parks that need protecting from development.
Posted by: polynikes at August 29, 2025 11:24 AM (EYmYM)

100% agree with this. Acadia National Park in Maine is the only national park in the Northeast and I am glad it is protected from development.

Posted by: joemarine at August 29, 2025 11:49 AM (y171U)

150 While we’re at it, get rid of the Injun reservations, too.
Posted by: Bulg at August 29, 2025 11:29 AM (77rzZ)
_______

I agree. It's a terrible arrangement that oppresses 99% of natives. The Indian reservations are cesspools of poverty, crime, drugs, corruption, and machine politics that benefit only the very select few.

Drive through some of them in places like Montana and you'd swear you're in Thunderdome.

Get rid of these things and integrate the natives into the population. Shoulda been done 150 years ago.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 29, 2025 11:50 AM (iFTx/)

151 During Carter administration government paid to have private enterprises build 16 biomass electric generation plants built in the West.
They made money at a quarter dollar a kilowatt.

Then government killed them off with tightening of emissions and reduction of access to fuel and certain small incentive payments. They certainly helped remove fuels from forests that have since repeatedly burned.

But...keep your eye on the ball...the post biomass sourced electricity costs 45 cents a kilowatt. Despite the spread the government makes sure the fuel is destroyed by wilfire while we pay more for electricity.

Our government isn't working for us.

Posted by: torabora at August 29, 2025 11:50 AM (KtOUo)

152 Interesting. A friend from Oregon showed me photo of BLM land that was so trashed it looked like downtown Portland.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at August 29, 2025 11:50 AM (wBaIH)

153 Why not turn uncontrollable inner cities into parkland with houses cleared, plants planted, and vagrancy laws enforced draconically?

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at August 29, 2025 11:51 AM (wZlsB)

154 He wasn't much help. All those years of praying my guts out and I might as well have been praying to my sock drawer.
Posted by: At least socks comfort your feet
======
First comes obedience and submission to his expressed will. A massive stumbling block for many is "I want something so Lord make it happen". If you notice, his own son, Jesus, did not want to be crucified and said so during prayer to the Lord. "My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me. Yet not as I will, but as You will"

Plainly the lesser does not order the greater to issue favors like a Pez dispenser.

The Lord never hears self serving prayers or those done with an arrogant spirit that one is owed something. But He, the Son, and the Holy Spirit is there when even your friends, family, society, desert you if one has a meek and humble spirit.

Posted by: whig at August 29, 2025 11:52 AM (ctrM5)

155 it's actually not cocaine that shows up in the test , it's the metabolites. Once a person snorts the cocaine there body processes it and produces a different chemical in the urine

Not True!

Posted by: Nick Rekieta at August 29, 2025 11:52 AM (D0HYP)

156 Those lands that might be leased are probably the ones with REM,

The operating costs turning rocks into REM is prohibitive in the former US.

It will require major relaxation of regulations and insurance relief, and the unions need to be kept out - OR - the whole industry needs to be heavily subsidized like they do in China.

- OR - we do this outside the US and employ slave labor, again, like China.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at August 29, 2025 11:52 AM (nAS9C)

157 I personally believe my membership in the Independant American Party has kept me off jury duty for the last 20 years.

Posted by: Reforger at August 29, 2025 11:53 AM (AehUp)

158 I remember our "Sagebrush Rebellion" in Nevada. As a hunter and off-road enthusiast we've battled and begged to have access to land we used for years. If we weren't fighting lunatic enviros it was precarious relationships with landowners. Wilderness that Ive gutted deer in is now apartments or someone's front porch. Marshland we duck hunted on that we were told was a preserve is now a golf course community. I don't know wtf is left to "fight" for or be concerned about.

Posted by: JROD at August 29, 2025 11:53 AM (IlL6s)

159 The casino in Susanville has been remarkably successful in reducing poverty on its associated Njin reservation. Sure there are social problems on the rez but its a net positive to the small city.

Posted by: torabora at August 29, 2025 11:53 AM (KtOUo)

160 Prayer does not change God; it changes me.
C. S. Lewis

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 29, 2025 11:53 AM (Dv3i1)

161 157 I personally believe my membership in the Independant American Party has kept me off jury duty for the last 20 years.
Posted by: Reforger at August 29, 2025 11:53 AM (AehUp)

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Don't worry. You're on other lists.

Posted by: Bob at the NSA at August 29, 2025 11:54 AM (hY4dx)

162
Time to walk the doggo

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) - Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![/i at August 29, 2025 11:54 AM (Tv15w)

163 Those lands that might be leased are probably the ones with REM,
____

Orange Crush?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 29, 2025 11:54 AM (Dv3i1)

164 I’m for maintaining areas as national parks that need protecting from development.

Posted by: polynikes at August 29, 2025 11:24 AM (EYmYM)

And make new ones too!

Like Hetch Hetchy in California. Supposedly it was more beautiful than Yosemite before they dammed it!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at August 29, 2025 11:55 AM (L5An7)

165 The map I alluded to earlier, the USGS US-PAD, has off shore areas illustrated.

Upon review, it's nearly all off shore areas of CONUS as well as Alaska and Hawaii.

NOAA - MPA's (Marine Protected Area) Extends from the coast to international waters. Notable is that the West Coast is almost entirely one, long slender strand of protected beach... either BLM or Fish/Wildlife.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 29, 2025 11:55 AM (Q4IgG)

166 The Lumbee Indians are a good example: because they weren’t recognized as a tribe, their descendants do better in life than the average American in their part of the country (the southeast).

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at August 29, 2025 11:55 AM (wZlsB)

167 160 Prayer does not change God; it changes me.
C. S. Lewis

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 29, 2025 11:53 AM (Dv3i1)

It also opens you up to seeing God's will in your life.

Posted by: Nova Local at August 29, 2025 11:55 AM (tOcjL)

168 Breaking news! Just a day or two ago, I mentioned my concerns about Iowa special elections swinging 20+ points to the dems recently, the Republican governor not running for reelection, and concerns about Joni Ernst.

Republican Sen. Joni Ernst of Iowa has told confidantes she plans to reveal next week that she won't seek reelection in 2026, multiple sources familiar with the matter told CBS News.

I'm guessing her staff closely follow us, saw the concerns, and stepped down so an actual conservative Republican can take up the banner. Good job, everyone!

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at August 29, 2025 11:55 AM (ycI94)

169 160 Prayer does not change God; it changes me.
C. S. Lewis
Posted by: Chuck Martel
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I pray that to be so. (not being ironic here).

Posted by: whig at August 29, 2025 11:56 AM (ctrM5)

170 I personally believe my membership in the Independant American Party has kept me off jury duty for the last 20 years.
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“Your honor, I can tell that MFer is guilty just lookin’ at him”

Posted by: Common Tater at August 29, 2025 11:56 AM (+E7BZ)

171 What do you call a person that already has a house in the Forrest? A saintly and good environmentalist.

What do you cal a person that wants a house in the forest? An evil greedy developer.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at August 29, 2025 11:56 AM (17s+e)

172 That's likely the big ugly homeless camp near Bend

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 29, 2025 11:56 AM (kUxzU)

173 They paved paradise, put up a parking lot.

Posted by: Ooh, Lot, Lot, Lot, Lot.... at August 29, 2025 11:57 AM (G5+As)

174 Plainly the lesser does not order the greater to issue favors like a Pez dispenser.

That has been man from the very beginning, the Original Lie was: "and ye shall be as gods"

Man has always confused his role with that of the Almighty Creator and has demanded that the Alpha & Omega act as a trained circus monkey. Far too many evangelicals worship a Genie Jesus who exists only to dispense luxuries and ensure conveniences.

Almost all so-called worship of spiritual beings has been an ornate and ritualistic way of manipulation. Ad hoc quid pro quos e.g. "If I stop drinking this week, then God is obligated to give me a raise at the office". It doesn't work like that, God initiates and sets the terms for ALL covenants.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at August 29, 2025 11:57 AM (nAS9C)

175 154
A fellow as bright as you surely knows who you’re talking to here.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 29, 2025 11:57 AM (jbnUc)

176 Republican Sen. Joni Ernst of Iowa has told confidantes she plans to reveal next week that she won't seek reelection in 2026, multiple sources familiar with the matter told CBS News.

I'm guessing her staff closely follow us, saw the concerns, and stepped down so an actual conservative Republican can take up the banner. Good job, everyone!
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions
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Would not be surprised that Ernst runs for governor. Marsha Blackburn is. At the end of the day, the Senate is a miserable place if you are not way up there in leadership.

Posted by: whig at August 29, 2025 11:57 AM (ctrM5)

177 The Hekawis never got a casino.

Posted by: Chief Wild Eagle at August 29, 2025 11:58 AM (hY4dx)

178 168 Republican Sen. Joni Ernst of Iowa has told confidantes she plans to reveal next week that she won't seek reelection in 2026, multiple sources familiar with the matter told CBS News.

I'm guessing her staff closely follow us, saw the concerns, and stepped down so an actual conservative Republican can take up the banner. Good job, everyone!
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at August 29, 2025 11:55 AM (ycI94)

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Ernst trying to tank Hegseth most likely killed any chance she'd get official support in a primary, along with perhaps explicit promises from Trump that he'd campaign against her.

You shoot at the king, you don't miss.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 29, 2025 11:58 AM (GBKbO)

179 Prayer does not change God; it changes me.
C. S. Lewis
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DONT LISTEN TO HIM WHAT DOES HE KNOW. LISTEN TO ME I'M A POLITICIAN!!! Prayer doesnt work!!!!

Posted by: Mayor Frey at August 29, 2025 11:58 AM (a1QbA)

180 Don't worry. You're on other lists.
Posted by: Bob at the NSA at August 29, 2025 11:54 AM (hY4dx)

Yep. Pretty cool too. It gets me through DMV with a security escort.

Posted by: Reforger at August 29, 2025 11:58 AM (AehUp)

181 THE MORNING RANT: This Land is Whose Land - Should the U.S. Government Offload Some of its Vast Undeveloped Land Holdings?

I'm really late to the thread, but here's a question: If you own your home (and presumably the land under it), should you lose that home if you pay your mortgage but not pay your local property taxes?

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 29, 2025 11:58 AM (RWBLh)

182 I'm opposed to government control and private greed.
It's a pickle.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at August 29, 2025 11:58 AM (xcxpd)

183 If you’re not on a list by now you should be ashamed of yourself

Posted by: Common Tater at August 29, 2025 11:58 AM (+E7BZ)

184
/nick

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) - Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![/i at August 29, 2025 11:59 AM (Tv15w)

185 The Lord hears your prayers.

Sometimes the answer is no.

Posted by: How Bankrupt Are We at August 29, 2025 11:59 AM (43by1)

186 184
/nick
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) - Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![/i at August 29, 2025 11:59 AM (Tv15w)

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Still better than Todd.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 29, 2025 11:59 AM (GBKbO)

187
/this time

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) - Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! [/ at August 29, 2025 12:00 PM (Tv15w)

188 Fucking Todd

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 29, 2025 12:00 PM (hY4dx)

189 179 Prayer does not change God; it changes me.
C. S. Lewis
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DONT LISTEN TO HIM WHAT DOES HE KNOW. LISTEN TO ME I'M A POLITICIAN!!! Prayer doesnt work!!!!
Posted by: Mayor Frey

You shouldn't be changed, your identity needs to be affirmed! If god and prayer are forms of conversion therapy, it should be illegal!!!!

Posted by: Gaystapo at August 29, 2025 12:00 PM (ycI94)

190 Time to walk the doggo
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) - Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![/i at August 29, 2025 11:54 AM (Tv15w)

Don't do it in the woods. You'll break your leg!

Posted by: Canuck Board Of Compliance at August 29, 2025 12:00 PM (G5+As)

191 Republican Sen. Joni Ernst of Iowa has told confidantes she plans to reveal next week that she won't seek reelection in 2026, multiple sources familiar with the matter told CBS News.
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She s not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Went out on a limb and it broke. She is trying to salvage. Career politicians suck.

Posted by: End of rant at August 29, 2025 12:01 PM (a1QbA)

192 This but one of the many rational reasons I do not want any of the Canadian Providences to become states.

Sure Alberta and Saskatchewan are more conservative in a Canadian way but are not far from California, Illinois, and Massachusetts in political tendencies.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at August 29, 2025 12:01 PM (17s+e)

193 He wasn't much help. All those years of praying my guts out and I might as well have been praying to my sock drawer.
Posted by: At least socks comfort your feet

maybe our humble society can help !
Repeat after me:

Hare Krishna Hare Krishna
Krishna Krishna Hare Hare
Hare Rama Hare Rama
Rama Rama Hare Hare

Posted by: International Society for Krishna Consciousness at August 29, 2025 12:01 PM (g47mK)

194 THE MORNING RANT: This Land is Whose Land - Should the U.S. Government Offload Some of its Vast Undeveloped Land Holdings?

I'm really late to the thread, but here's a question: If you own your home (and presumably the land under it), should you lose that home if you pay your mortgage but not pay your local property taxes?
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 29, 2025 11:58 AM (RWBLh)
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Whether you should or not, the answer is you definitely will lose the home if you don't pay property taxes. The local government will foreclose and sell off the property to pay the taxes.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 29, 2025 12:01 PM (iFTx/)

195 Almost all so-called worship of spiritual beings has been an ornate and ritualistic way of manipulation. Ad hoc quid pro quos e.g. "If I stop drinking this week, then God is obligated to give me a raise at the office". It doesn't work like that, God initiates and sets the terms for ALL covenants.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure
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Good summary. I seem to recall that Ted Turner told Jane Fonda that he gave up on Christianity when the Lord did not save his sister from death.

Always wise to remember his will comes first. Even favorites like Moses or David get punished for disobedience.

Posted by: whig at August 29, 2025 12:01 PM (ctrM5)

196
Having a 15w TV ain't helping any ...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) - Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! [/i at August 29, 2025 12:02 PM (Tv15w)

197 “Your honor, I can tell that MFer is guilty just lookin’ at him”

Which is exactly how most of your "peers" will operate once in the jury room even if they don't have the self-awareness to recognize it.

Posted by: Oddbob at August 29, 2025 12:02 PM (TJ5zt)

198 Like Hetch Hetchy in California. Supposedly it was more beautiful than Yosemite before they dammed it!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at August 29, 2025 11:55 AM (L5An7)

So now it's a beautiful lake. And lakes are more accessible to the normal person than are craggy mountains.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 29, 2025 12:02 PM (Jf0CV)

199 128 Interesting development in VA - a black Democratic money guy (BET TV's co-founder Robert Johnson) gave Winsome Sears $500K in protest for Abigail Spanberger's campaign response to the racist sign. He's always been Blacks 1st, and I guess, this could be the vote/party split Winsome, and really the down ticket guys, need to steal an unwinnable election...
Posted by: Nova Local at August 29, 2025 11:40 AM (tOcjL)

He's blacks first (hey, I'm black, so I get it), but he never would have been able to get BET off the ground without that white guy, John Malone, who believed in the project and gave him financial backing - as well as space on the cable network.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 29, 2025 12:02 PM (RWBLh)

200 Communion wafers are basically matzo, right?
Posted by: Bulg

No, it's this weird plasticky wafer thing. Take that weird cracker part out of the Kit-Kat, like that.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 29, 2025 12:02 PM (mlg/3)

201 Hare Krishna Hare Krishna
Krishna Krishna Hare Hare
Hare Rama Hare Rama
Rama Rama Hare Hare

Posted by: International Society for Krishna Consciousness at August 29, 2025 12:01 PM (g47mK)

Y'all weirdos go barefoot

Posted by: even worse at August 29, 2025 12:02 PM (TbWk/)

202 Don't do it in the woods. You'll break your leg!
Posted by: Canuck Board Of Compliance at August 29, 2025 12:00 PM (G5+As)

And all Canadians are fighting an actual threat to life and limb so nobody is coming to rescue you.

Posted by: Reforger at August 29, 2025 12:03 PM (AehUp)

203 I supposed if the feds are not willing to allow more homesteading (and some land is not suitable for farming or any small ranching) then leasing tracts of land for 20- 99 years would not be amiss, especially forest land.
Imagine if a timber company could rent forest acreage for 99 years and really grow some timber, that they could thin, serially harvest, and replant for returning for further auctions?
If the timber company could both harvest AND get a cut of the improved standing timber come the next auction, that would create a whole new class of forestry.
Not just cutting trees, but holding a contract on a land to care and take commercial thinning, and then get part of the value of the improved or maintained roads, and improved stands would attract a lot of small companies, it would encourage a lot of small guys who do the jobs the big companies don't like to do to start their own small timber companies.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 29, 2025 12:04 PM (rbvCR)

204 177 The Hekawis never got a casino.
Posted by: Chief Wild Eagle

You didn't need one. Hekawis had more money-making scams than Sgt. Bilko.

Posted by: All About The Benjamins at August 29, 2025 12:04 PM (G5+As)

205
If casinos are legal for one group of anybodys, they should be legal for everyone.

The Injuns have far more free and loose hunting and fishing privileges that American citizens.

All in the service of making the people to whom the Constitution is supposed to protect, be second-class citizens who must beg and plead with authority to enjoy God Given Rights.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at August 29, 2025 11:44 AM (nAS9C)

One thing that intrigues me about the Injun reservations is that they don't do anything truly prosperous with the land. Casinos, tax-free cigarettes etc., small potatoes based on recreation. Manufacturing, oil/gas, mining, and other industry is largely ignored or in the case of oil/gas pipelines, actively sabotaged.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 29, 2025 12:04 PM (y9nCu)

206 199
‘ he never would have been able to get BET off the ground without that white guy, John Malone’

BET like America will only succeed if we are on the same team.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 29, 2025 12:04 PM (jbnUc)

207 Y'all weirdos go barefoot
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what does discalced mean???

Posted by: End of rant at August 29, 2025 12:04 PM (a1QbA)

208 Whether you should or not, the answer is you definitely will lose the home if you don't pay property taxes. The local government will foreclose and sell off the property to pay the taxes.
Posted by: Elric The Blade

Let's say you're paid off on a $250k market value home/lot. You forgot to pay 2 yrs of property tax of $15k. The foreclosure fees and other nonesense the local authorities charge are another $15k. The house ultimately sells for the $250. Does the government give you a check for $220k after payment of taxes and fees?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 29, 2025 12:05 PM (Dv3i1)

209 What really busts my buttons are the abuses of the system - rich assholes buying up vast tracks around their property and then 'donating it' to the government or a trust to be held as undeveloped wilderness.

The fuckers get all the benefit with no tax liability.

(Not that there should be land taxes, all taxes are theft yadayadayada) The point is they are abusing the system and the public by doing so.

Posted by: But I'm a Hero, the media says so at August 29, 2025 12:06 PM (F/35S)

210 I know it's not the same but I'm older and remember some of the stories - fact and fiction - and deaths that occurred from Ruby Ridge in Idaho, the Bundy standoff in Oregon. (If interested, pl. read several sources. One is never enough.)

Locally, Beaver Valley is a specific tract of land now within the First State National Historical Park in Delaware. Beaver Valley, formerly known as Chandler's Hollow straddles the Pennsylvania and Delaware border in Delaware County, PA and New Castle County, DE.

Delaware Public Media: 'Beaver Valley land added to First State National Historic Park,' Published May 24, 2021

In part, "The Pennsylvania Beaver Valley tract is now part of The First State National Historic Park.

Beaver Valley is made up of 254 acres of upland forest, open meadows, and wetlands, as well as a wide variety of wildlife species, some endangered.

The Conservation Fund is donating it all to the National Park Service (NPS), officially adding it to Delaware’s National Park."
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Government land. What's fair? IDK.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at August 29, 2025 12:06 PM (NFX2v)

211 THE BOSS HAS A NOOD

Posted by: Skip at August 29, 2025 12:06 PM (G3kLq)

212 Imagine if a timber company could rent forest acreage for 99 years and really grow some timber, that they could thin, serially harvest, and replant for returning for further auctions?
If the timber company could both harvest AND get a cut of the improved standing timber come the next auction, that would create a whole new class of forestry.
Not just cutting trees, but holding a contract on a land to care and take commercial thinning, and then get part of the value of the improved or maintained roads, and improved stands would attract a lot of small companies, it would encourage a lot of small guys who do the jobs the big companies don't like to do to start their own small timber companies.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 29, 2025 12:04 PM (rbvCR)

You have basically just described what a Tree Farm Licence is in Canada.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 29, 2025 12:06 PM (Jf0CV)

213 Let's say you're paid off on a $250k market value home/lot. You forgot to pay 2 yrs of property tax of $15k. The foreclosure fees and other nonesense the local authorities charge are another $15k. The house ultimately sells for the $250. Does the government give you a check for $220k after payment of taxes and fees?

According to a Supreme Court ruling two or three years ago, they are supposed to.

Posted by: How Bankrupt Are We at August 29, 2025 12:06 PM (43by1)

214 Nood.

Posted by: tankdemon at August 29, 2025 12:06 PM (jfvTO)

215 Does the government give you a check for $220k after payment of taxes and fees?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 29, 2025 12:05 PM (Dv3i1)

Haha ha ha ha.
He he
No.

Posted by: The Government at August 29, 2025 12:07 PM (AehUp)

216 209. Posted by: But I'm a Hero, the media says so

👍

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at August 29, 2025 12:08 PM (NFX2v)

217 99 Technically the Romans, but why let facts get in the way of irrational bigotry?
Posted by: tankdemon at August 29, 2025 11:22 AM (jfvTO)

Come on, the Pharisees had the Romans kill Jesus on their behalf. But I don’t know why people focus on it. It was preordained by God in order to save the world.
Posted by: polynikes at August 29, 2025 11:29 AM (EYmYM)

I don't get it either. It was absolutely preordained by God. There were many times that Jesus was easily able to walk through crowds that were trying to stone him. Even on the night he was arrested, he told Peter to put the sword away because if Jesus actually wanted to stay safe, he could have called upon 12 legions of angels to protect him. That's 72,000 angels. He went to the cross on his own free will, because that was what he was sent here to do.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 29, 2025 12:09 PM (RWBLh)

218 So now it's a beautiful lake. And lakes are more accessible to the normal person than are craggy mountains.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 29, 2025 12:02 PM (Jf0CV)

No. I want California punished for their hubris! Return California to what it was before we filthy Whites arrived!

No water for San Francisco!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at August 29, 2025 12:11 PM (L5An7)

219 Canadian Government: Shelter in place because tbe risk of you getting injured once you step outside your door is real (and a potential burden on our healthcare system)!

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at August 29, 2025 12:19 PM (36PRH)

220 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at August 29, 2025 12:11 PM (L5An7)

It’s not an either or. Do you want Yosemite to be developed to allow other urban areas to expand?

Posted by: polynikes at August 29, 2025 12:26 PM (EYmYM)

221 Late, but the Yakama nation has orchards, among other businesses

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 29, 2025 12:51 PM (kUxzU)

222 I'd rather the federal government keep it off limits than see it sold off to China.

Posted by: Caiwyn at August 29, 2025 02:13 PM (+nIOL)

223 It turns out that the emergency responders in urban areas are under stand-down orders. So, if there is a fire, they should not have to travel to it to fight the fire. That is what happened in Los Angeles, so the first responders stayed in their fire houses and watched it burn on TV.

Posted by: wferrin at August 29, 2025 04:06 PM (TbqU+)

224 "Park Closed at the Behest of Global Philanthropaths"? What's that? A philanthropic psychopath?

Posted by: Jeff Powell at August 29, 2025 04:53 PM (M2RE5)

225 Texas cut a good deal when it joined the United States: the State retained all public lands. Currently less than 2% of Texas is federal land. Utah 63% Fed, Idaho 61% Fed, shockingly Montana is only 29 % Fed. My opinion is, the majority of the land inside a state's borders should be controlled and disposed of as the State sees fit. The Feds can keep the national parks and other conservation areas but that's it

Posted by: Stacy0311 at August 29, 2025 05:00 PM (gwujb)

226 Tell those UN/CFR/Globalists were a Republic not a Monarchy and Their not Privileged Noblemen

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at August 29, 2025 05:44 PM (wGqjj)

227 I want what is wild to stay wild

We owe it to the animals, to the first peoples and to our very souls

Posted by: Gonzotx at August 29, 2025 06:14 PM (nGraA)

228 225 Texas cut a good deal when it joined the United States: the State retained all public lands. Currently less than 2% of Texas is federal land. Utah 63% Fed, Idaho 61% Fed, shockingly Montana is only 29 % Fed. My opinion is, the majority of the land inside a state's borders should be controlled and disposed of as the State sees fit. The Feds can keep the national parks and other conservation areas but that's it

I live in Texas and it wasn’t a good deal in the end
It’s been cut up and sold to the highest bidder, all the wild areas outside of West Texas are gone , and that mostly desert….

Texas doesn’t even have oOME wild horse population

It’s overpopulated and a shame, damn shame

Posted by: Gonzotx at August 29, 2025 06:17 PM (nGraA)

229 ...if any Jewish people want to adopt me into the tribe, I'm all for it.
Posted by: XTC at August 29, 2025 11:35 AM (UnA8+)

Join The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and get your Patriarchal Blessing.
If you are not already a hereditary member of a Jewish tribe you will be adopted into a tribe.

Posted by: waepnedmann at August 29, 2025 06:35 PM (apRfe)

230 Take a look at what one of the underlying issues is. The hunters are concerned about access if some land is sold. What they see is that what these rich speculators do is buy land and then deny access to the public land. So you can have a ring of private land that essentially denies anyone the ability to hunt on public lands.

Posted by: JackWayne at August 29, 2025 10:47 PM (RABz7)

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