Trust the "Experts:" GDP Revised Upwards (What a Shock) from a Healthy 3% to a Very Healthy 3.3%; Inflation Revised <i>Down</i> from Just Above the Fed Target Rate, 2.3%, to 2%, Which Is Exactly the Fed Target Rate

Trust the "Experts:" GDP Revised Upwards (What a Shock) from a Healthy 3% to a Very Healthy 3.3%; Inflation Revised Down from Just Above the Fed Target Rate, 2.3%, to 2%, Which Is Exactly the Fed Target Rate

Remember the media shrieking that GDP hadn't grown much except due to "technical" reasons (a fall in imports), and that inflation was increasing?

Wrong. Inflation just clocked in at 2%, which is exactly the Fed's target. As I've mentioned before, the Fed does not attempt to get inflation down to 0%, as they believe some inflation is actually good for the economy.

We're now at that target rate. Biden's "Transitory" Inflation is actually transitory, thanks to Trump (and big interest rate hikes from the Fed).

Scott Jennings
@ScottJenningsKY
We were assured that recession was imminent...
.@bloomberg: "The US economy expanded in the second quarter at a slightly faster pace than initially estimated on a pickup in business investment and an outsize boost from trade. Inflation-adjusted gross domestic product, which measures the value of goods and services produced in the US, increased at a 3.3% annualized pace...That compared with an initially reported 3% increase."

CNBC: Second quarter GDP has been revised up to 3.3% — while inflation has been revised down to 2%, right on track with the Fed's target rate.

📈📈📈 pic.twitter.com/dYdMcbvGRQ
— Rapid Response 47 (@RapidResponse47) August 28, 2025

🚨 LMAO! CNBC is currently MOCKING the CRAP out of Democrats and Elizabeth Warren after the latest inflation and strong GDP report.

"The left, the people who don't like the president, don't want things to work. Senator Elizabeth Warren will come on and say, 'Inflation is OUT OF… pic.twitter.com/hz79jZZ9m7
— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) July 30, 2025

Unrelated: Woke DC Mayor Muriel Bowser is praising Trump's anti-crime surge as reducing crime and reducing carjackings by a huge 87%.

🚨 HOLY CRAP! The Democrat Mayor of DC Muriel Bowser is now thanking President Trump for "surging" agents to Washington DC: "Difference in this 20-day period of this federal surge is an 87% REDUCTION in carjackings! [...] Neighborhoods feel safer!"pic.twitter.com/05oJo8gKUk
— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) August 27, 2025

And Gavin Newsom now realizes that the crime issue will be deadly for Democrats in 2028, so he's imitating Trump by "surging" cops to high-crime areas.

Somebody finally looked at the polls. https://t.co/QxldEKYx64
— Mark Hemingway (@Heminator) August 28, 2025

But this is only pretending! (Like when he cleared the streets of homeless people and drug dealers only for a visit of Chinese VIPs.)

I just saw a video, which I cannot find now, of a law-abiding citizen showing that a violent homeless man attacked him and destroyed his camera. The assault was caught on video. The LA cops said they could not arrest the man because they hadn't personally witnessed the assault. They claimed video just taken moments before wasn't enough. They said that to get the man arrested, the citizen would have to go to the court and press charges himself, getting a "private warrant" for arrest.

And they told the citizen that there was no point even doing that because they were going to claim the assault was just a misdemeanor, deserving of no punishment at all.

But yeah, Gavin Newsom is really going to crack down on crime.

Here's that video:

"The police are impotent in California."

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Posted by: Joe Kidd at August 28, 2025 03:33 PM (nbLIj)

2 Oh, they comin'...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at August 28, 2025 03:35 PM (nbLIj)

3 In a weird way, I think Powell is helping Trump by not dropping rates the way Trump wants them dropped.

Powell is definitely trying to sabotage Trump, but I actually think we're at a healthy spot in the economy right now.

Low interest will fuel inflation. I'd rather stamp out inflation that slightly help labor markets right now.

I think what Trump wants is a red-hot economy "best jobs number ever!!!" but that makes inflation come back and piss off the public.

Posted by: Leupold at August 28, 2025 03:35 PM (4pwAx)

4 My pants have been revised downward

Posted by: Bang-a-gong at August 28, 2025 03:37 PM (SRiFu)

5 th!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 28, 2025 03:37 PM (Wnv9h)

6 So Governor Greaseballs "tweets" mocking Trump didn't work ? I'm shocked shocked I tell you...

Posted by: It's me donna at August 28, 2025 03:37 PM (VE6XX)

7 I don't want to watch Newsom surge. That's icky.

Posted by: pudinhead at August 28, 2025 03:38 PM (c711F)

8 3 Low interest will fuel inflation. I'd rather stamp out inflation that slightly help labor markets right now.

I think what Trump wants is a red-hot economy "best jobs number ever!!!" but that makes inflation come back and piss off the public.
Posted by: Leupold at August 28, 2025 03:35 PM (4pwAx)

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Interest rates don't affect inflation at all.

Like...at all.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 03:38 PM (GBKbO)

9 Low interest will fuel inflation. I'd rather stamp out inflation that slightly help labor markets right now.

I think what Trump wants is a red-hot economy "best jobs number ever!!!" but that makes inflation come back and piss off the public.
Posted by: Leupold at August 28, 2025 03:35 PM (4pwAx)

I think I'd prefer they wait a bit to drop the rates.

Only because I'll refi once they do, and I don't really want to do that yet.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 28, 2025 03:38 PM (ouubj)

10 W T F is a "private arrest?"

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 28, 2025 03:38 PM (Q4IgG)

11 So for that State Senate seat in Iowa people are worried about, the last normal election in 2023 was

GOP 7,700
Dem 6,256

vs this special election which was

GOP 3,411
Dem 4,208

I know nothing of the candidates running, but I'd assume most normal voters, even off year election voters, didn't care to show up

So, it does mean something like Trump's convention idea is a good one, but I also wouldn't take this as a specific concern either

Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2025 03:38 PM (sKqQm)

12 I don’t want them to lower rates because I have money revolving in short term treasuries. I could lose 10s of dollars if rates get cut!

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 28, 2025 03:38 PM (RUwyk)

13 My pants have been revised downward
Posted by: Bang-a-gong at August 28, 2025 03:37 PM

You're wearing pants? What are you, new here?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 28, 2025 03:38 PM (Wnv9h)

14 And Gavin Newsom now realizes that the crime issue will be deadly for Democrats in 2028, so he's imitating Trump by "surging" cops to high-crime areas.
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Who is he imitating by being a gay?

Posted by: ... at August 28, 2025 03:39 PM (0y1cv)

15 3 In a weird way, I think Powell is helping Trump by not dropping rates the way Trump wants them dropped.

Powell is definitely trying to sabotage Trump, but I actually think we're at a healthy spot in the economy right now.
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Powell is committed to supplying the top interest rate on US Treasuries to pay back his supporters in Chy Nah.

Posted by: pudinhead at August 28, 2025 03:39 PM (c711F)

16
Low interest will fuel inflation. I'd rather stamp out inflation that slightly help labor markets right now.

That's true, but low interest rates would also specifically help companies looking to take advantage of the tariff opportunity Trump has given them - taking out a business loan to expand into an area previously dominated by cheap chinese crap

Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2025 03:39 PM (sKqQm)

17 I think what Trump wants is a red-hot economy "best jobs number ever!!!" but that makes inflation come back and piss off the public.
Posted by: Leupold at August 28, 2025 03:35 PM (4pwAx)

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Trump wants a lower rate to reduce federal interest costs on the debt. Also I think he wants to spur some homebuying. I think millions of buyers are holding back until at least a fig leaf of interest rate reduction.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 28, 2025 03:40 PM (VG8VO)

18 Interest rates don't affect inflation at all.

Like...at all.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

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That's so silly to have that hot take.
You think interest rates have zero correlation with inflation? Really?

Posted by: Leupold at August 28, 2025 03:40 PM (4pwAx)

19 16 That's true, but low interest rates would also specifically help companies looking to take advantage of the tariff opportunity Trump has given them - taking out a business loan to expand into an area previously dominated by cheap chinese crap
Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2025 03:39 PM (sKqQm)

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It's not.

If it were, we would have had massive inflation through Obama's term.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 03:40 PM (GBKbO)

20 Everything the political left does is engineered to disguise what they need the street thugs to do.

I think many Americans will see right through Gayvin scumface

Posted by: melodicmetal1 at August 28, 2025 03:40 PM (XLfSN)

21 BUT TRUMPS' EVIL TARIFFS WILL RAISE PRICES

-- Jerome "Fuckface" Powell
-- Lisa "Slutfuck" Cook

Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 28, 2025 03:40 PM (iFTx/)

22 Trump needs to find out who the fvck is constantly messing with these numbers to make his policies look bad and very publicly fire them.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 28, 2025 03:41 PM (0N4FZ)

23 18 That's so silly to have that hot take.
You think interest rates have zero correlation with inflation? Really?
Posted by: Leupold at August 28, 2025 03:40 PM (4pwAx)

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Yes.

https://en.macromicro.me/charts/
83919/US-Fed-Rate-vs-Inflation

Low rates have no relation to increased inflation. At all.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 03:42 PM (GBKbO)

24 Interest rates don't affect inflation at all.

Like...at all.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison,

Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary issue. - Milton Friedman

Printing money and handing it out to NGOs and illegals is what caused the inflation.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 28, 2025 03:42 PM (0U5gm)

25 It's not.

If it were, we would have had massive inflation through Obama's term.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

===

It's because it was countering the massive deflation that was unfolding from the Great Recession.

Posted by: Leupold at August 28, 2025 03:42 PM (4pwAx)

26 I'm suspicious of the DC mayor. Something's up.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 28, 2025 03:42 PM (g8Ew8)

27 That's so silly to have that hot take.
You think interest rates have zero correlation with inflation? Really?
Posted by: Leupold at August 28, 2025 03:40 PM (4pwAx)

That hooker last night, I didn't kill her. The lack of oxygen (after I put my hands around her throat) killed her.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 28, 2025 03:42 PM (v2PU4)

28 The assault was caught on video. The LA cops said they could not arrest the man because they hadn't personally witnessed the assault. They claimed video just taken moments before wasn't enough. They said that to get the man arrested, the citizen would have to go to the court and press charges himself, getting a "private warrant" for arrest.

And they told the citizen that there was no point even doing that because they were going to claim the assault was just a misdemeanor, deserving of no punishment at all.

Ima stomp a mudhole is that homeless man's ass.
HE can go get a private warrant.

Vigilantism is back, baby!

Posted by: rickb223 at August 28, 2025 03:42 PM (V4yUe)

29 Wait, Trump's doing BETTER than initially reported?!?!?!?!?

How is that possible with all those media straight-shooters playing it down the middle?

The only straight shot down the middle those media personalities have ever gotten is straight down the middle of their collective throat.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at August 28, 2025 03:42 PM (oSeBJ)

30 Powell agreed that he was wrong and Trump was right about the tariffs and inflation. That's some major suck up right there .

Posted by: polynikes at August 28, 2025 03:43 PM (EYmYM)

31
If it were, we would have had massive inflation through Obama's term.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August

That's ignoring some context I think. Your conclusion assumes inflation is driven SOLELY by interest rates which no one is claiming.

Posted by: ... at August 28, 2025 03:43 PM (0y1cv)

32 31
If it were, we would have had massive inflation through Obama's term.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August

That's ignoring some context I think. Your conclusion assumes inflation is driven SOLELY by interest rates which no one is claiming.
Posted by: ... at August 28, 2025 03:43 PM (0y1cv)

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Look at the graph I posted.

There is literally no correlation at all.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 03:44 PM (GBKbO)

33 Related: My local arts/entertainment/"politics" free rag had a sidebar calling Trump's crackdown on DC crime "blustering" and "fascist," and saying that violent crime there has been down for two years and is at its lowest point since the 1960s.

I wrote to them and pointed out, first, that they need to look up the real definition of "fascism." Second, I quoted Ace's post of a few days ago about how the DC "leadership" has gotten their numbers to look lower by redefining violent crime and making it almost impossible for young black violent career criminals to be sent to jail. "No wonder," I wrote, "their numbers look better than in reality . . . and no wonder the Democrat Party is losing voters every day."

I also pointed out that they should stop capitalizing "black" if they are not going to capitalize "white." "You wouldn't want to be unfair, now would you?"

(No wonder, too, I rarely flick through that free rag at coffee shops any more.)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 28, 2025 03:44 PM (omVj0)

34 and jerome 'curley' powell will find another reason to not cut interest rates. the economy is doing too well and could cause inflation to heat up. soitanly.

Posted by: gnats local678 at August 28, 2025 03:44 PM (CWTWj)

35 Low rates have no relation to increased inflation. At all.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 03:42 PM (GBKbO)

The purpose of the Fed Reserve isn’t really controlling the economy. It’s purpose is to keep banks profitable and prevent them from going under.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 28, 2025 03:45 PM (RUwyk)

36 Trump needs to find out who the fvck is constantly messing with these numbers to make his policies look bad and very publicly fire them.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 28, 2025 03:41 PM (0N4FZ)

I thought he already did? Ms. McFaceFarter or something at BLS, yes?

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at August 28, 2025 03:45 PM (oSeBJ)

37 On the subject of inflation/tariffs, it seems The Blade was correct that foreigners would eat most if not all of the tariffs. I got pricing new 2026 pricing info on a number of European exotic cars, and even in that market -- where price is generally no object -- the price increases are significantly less than the new 15% tariff.

They go up every year anyway. So I suspect these increases would have occurred no matter what, but of course the companies are blaming tariffs.

I think companies will be blaming tariffs for price increases for the next ... I dunno ... 5 or 6 years.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 28, 2025 03:45 PM (iFTx/)

38 Can someone please ask gavin if he has ever thought of becoming a golf club?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8Y4dMis_do

Posted by: Mr. Mxyzptlk at August 28, 2025 03:45 PM (+0cJM)

39 Interest rates and inflation are absolutely connected. It’s not the only factor but it’s a very big factor..

A chart showing inflation compared to interest rates is making a terrible assumption that it occurs in a vacuum.

Posted by: Maroon at August 28, 2025 03:46 PM (Z9/UJ)

40 It's kind of fun to watch the Trump administration negotiate out all these new and upgraded trade agreements with a multitude of countries while both Canada and Mexico (by far out biggest trading partners) sit on their hands waiting for next year's re-evaluation of the USMCA (NAFTA).

Essentially, what Bessent is doing is creating alternatives to standard exports from both Canada and Mexico, so they lose significant leverage. Just wait until he gets to Argentina. There's a lot of overlap on products between Argentina and Canada. One such product is Potash (Canada being the world's primary source). But, Argentina has massive reserves of Potash that have never been developed, and currently are expediting the process.

Posted by: Orson at August 28, 2025 03:46 PM (dIske)

41 Earlier today, I read some dolt from Texas A and M, an economist or somesuch, who was claiming that grocery prices are going to double.

Due to loss of illegals and tariffs.

These people never tire of embarrassing themselves, do they?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 28, 2025 03:47 PM (X/fWw)

42 39 Interest rates and inflation are absolutely connected. It’s not the only factor but it’s a very big factor..

A chart showing inflation compared to interest rates is making a terrible assumption that it occurs in a vacuum.
Posted by: Maroon at August 28, 2025 03:46 PM (Z9/UJ)

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The change of interest rates is completely reactionary by people trying to control inflation through a mechanism that doesn't actually affect it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 03:47 PM (GBKbO)

43 I think millions of buyers are holding back until at least a fig leaf of interest rate reduction.
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You see this especially with home sales.

Posted by: pudinhead at August 28, 2025 03:47 PM (c711F)

44 Tariffs are one of the few taxes that are not exclusively paid for by American citizens.

Its nice the FNM finally discovered that actual American citizens pay for taxes, but they've pointed their ire at one of this least concerning types of taxes.

And remember you get less of what you tax.

Income tax = fewer people working
Capital gains tax = fewer people investing
Tariffs = fewer people buying chinese junk

Which of those is objectively the best type of tax if we are going to have taxes?

Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2025 03:47 PM (sKqQm)

45 8 3 Low interest will fuel inflation. I'd rather stamp out inflation that slightly help labor markets right now.

I think what Trump wants is a red-hot economy "best jobs number ever!!!" but that makes inflation come back and piss off the public.
Posted by: Leupold at August 28, 2025 03:35 PM (4pwAx)

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Interest rates don't affect inflation at all.

Like...at all.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 03:38 PM (GBKbO)

It addresses a specific form of inflation where people are spending money because it declines in value when held in a bank and the velocity of money is just out of control.

Low rates do not necessarily cause people to go out and spend. Probably has some effect but overall interest rates don't seem to be the economic lever that monetarism asserts.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at August 28, 2025 03:48 PM (okun6)

46 So Governor Greaseballs "tweets" mocking Trump didn't work ? I'm shocked shocked I tell you...
Posted by: It's me donna at August 28, 2025 03:37 PM (VE6XX)

He was complaining the people keep sending him Trump 2028 hats

Posted by: Kindltot at August 28, 2025 03:48 PM (rbvCR)

47 The other entertainment/music/nightlife free rag I saw the coffee shop today had a screed by some (no doubt young) woman named Julie. She lists things like a four-day work week, $30 minimum wage, free housing and healthcare, and no prisons or police, as laudable goals.

I wrote to their editors:

"She was trying to be satirical, right? Right? Though it did not come off that way.

"She needs to take a few economics classes (and actually pass them) to understand why such things as a thirty-dollar-an-hour minimum wage, free housing and healthcare, and no prisons or police would not work with human beings.

Be better, sirs. Be better."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 28, 2025 03:48 PM (omVj0)

48 The purpose of the Fed Reserve isn’t really controlling the economy. It’s purpose is to keep banks profitable and prevent them from going under.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 28, 2025 03:45 PM (RUwy

And they intentionally allowed the banks to fail after the crash.

You had one job !!!

Posted by: polynikes at August 28, 2025 03:48 PM (EYmYM)

49 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 28, 2025 03:48 PM (Zz0t1)

50 42

You’re way out on your own on that. But good luck.

Absolutely no economist would say that interest rates have no effect on inflation. Zero

Posted by: Maroon at August 28, 2025 03:49 PM (Z9/UJ)

51 Earlier today, I read some dolt from Texas A and M, an economist or somesuch, who was claiming that grocery prices are going to double.

Due to loss of illegals and tariffs.

What percentage of foodstuff do people buy that are imported? Honestly close to 100% of my groceries are made in America.

Also, if there are 40M illegals, and significantly less then 1M work in agriculture/food processing sending them home will decrease demand way more then supply...

Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2025 03:49 PM (sKqQm)

52 I'm suspicious of the DC mayor. Something's up.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 28, 2025 03:42 PM ()

She's a democrat. They lie. It's all they know how to do. OF COURSE you don't trust them. BECAUSE YOU'D BE STUPID TO.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 28, 2025 03:49 PM (Zz0t1)

53 Interest rates and inflation are absolutely connected. It’s not the only factor but it’s a very big factor..

A chart showing inflation compared to interest rates is making a terrible assumption that it occurs in a vacuum.
Posted by: Maroon at August 28, 2025 03:46 PM (Z9/UJ)

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The change of interest rates is completely reactionary by people trying to control inflation through a mechanism that doesn't actually affect it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 03:47 PM (GBKbO)
______

I agree with you. I've said this several times myself. But we are by far in the minority on this point. Not worth arguing over. You will never convince anyone.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 28, 2025 03:49 PM (iFTx/)

54 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 03:44 PM (GBKbO)

What is with you and graphs today?

The two things are already related. The fed literally responds to inflation (sometimes) so any chart is going to look messy. I'm not sure what you're proving although I will admit - not my area of expertise. I spend too much time drawing redheads and not enough arguing about global monetary policy.

Posted by: ... at August 28, 2025 03:49 PM (0y1cv)

55 Muriel - like the rest of the D mayors - is half scared to death she's going to be asked to show & prove what happened to the allocated, committed funding and grants for police, neighborhood safety, etc.

You also know it can't be done.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at August 28, 2025 03:50 PM (NFX2v)

56 Inflation is caused by printing too much money. See Biden's first XO.

Posted by: pudinhead at August 28, 2025 03:51 PM (c711F)

57 She lists things like a four-day work week, $30 minimum wage, free housing and healthcare, and no prisons or police, as laudable goals.

If taxes and regulations were reduced to a reasonable level, say 10% total, I suspect we'd already have shorter work weeks and much younger retirement.

When the government takes more then half your income you have to work more hours and more years...

Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2025 03:51 PM (sKqQm)

58 interest rates in the real world tend go up to keep up with rising prices. the fed can keep rates down but when the gov't runs huge deficits the gov't tends to suck up a lot of money from savers. something like that, anyway

Posted by: gnats local678 at August 28, 2025 03:51 PM (CWTWj)

59 Trust the "Experts:" GDP Revised Upwards (What a Shock) from a Healthy 3% to a Very Healthy 3.3%; Inflation Revised Down from Just Above the Fed Target Rate, 2.3%, to 2%, Which Is Exactly the Fed Target Rate
==============

"Late Again" Powell screwed the pooch in the August meeting, didn't he?

Posted by: mrp at August 28, 2025 03:51 PM (rj6Yv)

60 Changing interest rates follow inflation, but are not correlated. If interest rates are raised, it tends to depress economic activity, and if they are lowered it tends to increase economic activity. when the fed thinks the economy is overheating, they raise rates, but as noted before, inflation is a monetary phenomenon only.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 28, 2025 03:52 PM (0U5gm)

61 I think millions of buyers are holding back until at least a fig leaf of interest rate reduction.
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You see this especially with home sales.
Posted by: pudinhead at August 28, 2025 03:47 PM (c711F)
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Yes. And the reluctance of home buyers to make a move has in part caused very high rental prices. Which hurt a lot of middle-class and lower people. Which is why I think a rate cut is very sorely needed, and a significant one, and for reasons that have nothing to do with the stock market.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 28, 2025 03:52 PM (iFTx/)

62 I spend too much time drawing redheads and not enough arguing about global monetary policy.
Posted by: ...

You know the rule.

Posted by: Kratwurst at August 28, 2025 03:52 PM (36bTp)

63 BUT TRUMPS' EVIL TARIFFS WILL RAISE PRICES

-- Jerome "Fuckface" Powell
---
Yeah, he had been claiming for the last 4 months that inflation due to tariffs was going to show up any day now. Any day.

Then, at the last meeting, he said--citing these numbers that were just revised down--that "signs of inflation due to tariffs are starting to appear."

Most recently, at Jackson Hole meeting, he is now saying, "sure, sure, sure, I was saying tariffs are going to cause inflation any day now, but what I really meant is in the next 6 months to a year."

He's a scumbag lying punk.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 28, 2025 03:52 PM (X/fWw)

64 Powell agreed that he was wrong and Trump was right about the tariffs and inflation. That's some major suck up right there .

Posted by: polynikes at August 28, 2025 03:43 PM

powell wants to get the DOJ off of his back because he knows that Trump is going to have cause to fire him soon adn he is out next year anyways. And if you get fired for cause from the Fed you stand to lose your pension.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 28, 2025 03:53 PM (0N4FZ)

65 7 I don't want to watch Newsom surge. That's icky.

Posted by: pudinhead at August 28, 2025 03:38 PM (c711F)

Amongst wastewater professionals, a "Newsom Surge" is when your sewer overflows.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at August 28, 2025 03:53 PM (wtvvX)

66 I think I saw Muriel Bowser gazing at Trump’s ass.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 28, 2025 03:53 PM (EaUHc)

67 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 03:44 PM (GBKbO)

What is with you and graphs today?

The two things are already related. The fed literally responds to inflation (sometimes) so any chart is going to look messy. I'm not sure what you're proving although I will admit - not my area of expertise. I spend too much time drawing redheads and not enough arguing about global monetary policy.
Posted by: ... at August 28, 2025 03:49 PM (0y1cv)
________

"Graphs are sexy"

-- Redheads

Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 28, 2025 03:54 PM (iFTx/)

68 >>> 66 I think I saw Muriel Bowser gazing at Trump’s ass.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 28, 2025 03:53 PM (EaUHc)

Oh no she didn't.

Posted by: DOCTOR Jill at August 28, 2025 03:54 PM (ULPxl)

69 re 56: the classic definition of inflation is an increase in the supply of money and credit. it can be increased by the central bank telling banks they can reduce their reserves and lend money, but that has a limit

Posted by: gnats local678 at August 28, 2025 03:55 PM (CWTWj)

70 68 >>> 66 I think I saw Muriel Bowser gazing at Trump’s ass.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 28, 2025 03:53 PM (EaUHc

I believe she's "married" to a woman

Posted by: It's me donna at August 28, 2025 03:55 PM (VE6XX)

71 One of these days I'll post my portfolio to the hobby thread. They're nice redheads.

Posted by: ... at August 28, 2025 03:55 PM (0y1cv)

72 Do you think people will ask themselves why didn’t Democrats just clean up the crime, and then further realize they’re getting doinked in the squeak hole for their vote, and the doinking will continue once Democrats get past the election?

Nah.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 28, 2025 03:55 PM (EaUHc)

73 I don't want to watch Newsom surge. That's icky.

Posted by: pudinhead at August 28, 2025 03:38 PM (c711F)

Amongst wastewater professionals, a "Newsom Surge" is when your sewer overflows.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at August 28, 2025 03:53 PM (wtvvX)
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I have it on good authority that a Newsome Surge is the filthy semen that leaks out of a faggot's asshole when his rentbull pulls out.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 28, 2025 03:55 PM (iFTx/)

74 Income tax was one of those “stick it to the Rich!” Amendments passed on Christmas Eve wasn’t it? Allegations of jiggery-pokery in state ratification iirc. Hard to believe, I’m sure.

Rates started at 2%. On incomes beginning around $500,000 in today’s dollars. That seems “fair”.

Go back to that, for a while, at least.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 28, 2025 03:55 PM (qdur7)

75 LA cops said they could not arrest the man because they hadn't personally witnessed the assault.

Heard a LA cop trot out that bullshit to a citizen reporting a nasty hit and run. "But officer there he goes now!" as a damaged car rounded a corner. Cop had to stop writing me a ticket and go back to work after the guy.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at August 28, 2025 03:55 PM (mcegB)

76 Tariffs can't cause inflation.

They might increase prices for goods that are mostly manufactured overseas that for some reason domestic producers can't match, but as a tax tariffs are inherently deflationary.

Or look at it this way, if Uncle Sugar is going to print $1T to cover its yearly deficit and Trump raises $100B through tariffs, then Uncle Sugar now only has to print $900B more dollars instead of the full T worth, making a smaller reduction in the value of existing dollars.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2025 03:56 PM (sKqQm)

77 68 >>> 66 I think I saw Muriel Bowser gazing at Trump’s ass.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 28, 2025 03:53 PM (EaUHc)

Oh no she didn't.
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Don't tell Donna Brazill.

Posted by: pudinhead at August 28, 2025 03:56 PM (c711F)

78 54
What is with you and graphs today?

The two things are already related. The fed literally responds to inflation (sometimes) so any chart is going to look messy. I'm not sure what you're proving although I will admit - not my area of expertise. I spend too much time drawing redheads and not enough arguing about global monetary policy.
Posted by: ... at August 28, 2025 03:49 PM (0y1cv)

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If you actually look at the graph, you'll see that the supposed indirect relationship between inflation and interest rates is that inflation goes up, and then interest rates go up. Inflation moves down, then interest rates move down. Look at the late 70s and early 80s.

Interest rates rise 1:1 with inflation. Then interest remains high for a few years as inflation cools. Where's the relationship? Then, interest rates follow down with the inflation afterwards.

Then look at the 2000s. Interest rates climb, but inflation just kind of bounces around a median. Why didn't it cool off the economy? Why did it just keep on around the same?

And then, of course, there's the early 2020s when we had 0% interest and then an explosion of inflation.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 03:56 PM (GBKbO)

79 jiggery-pokery

That's racist.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at August 28, 2025 03:56 PM (mcegB)

80 Earlier today, I read some dolt from Texas A and M, an economist or somesuch, who was claiming that grocery prices are going to double.

Due to loss of illegals and tariffs.

What percentage of foodstuff do people buy that are imported? Honestly close to 100% of my groceries are made in America.

Also, if there are 40M illegals, and significantly less then 1M work in agriculture/food processing sending them home will decrease demand way more then supply...
Posted by: 18-1

Leftists are flailing and grabbing gor ANY lifeline.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 28, 2025 03:56 PM (V4yUe)

81
I have it on good authority that a Newsome Surge is the filthy semen that leaks out of a faggot's asshole when his rentbull pulls out.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 28, 2025 03:55 PM (iFTx/)

The Blasphemous Creampie.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 28, 2025 03:56 PM (Zz0t1)

82 If it were, we would have had massive inflation through Obama's term.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August

That's ignoring some context I think. Your conclusion assumes inflation is driven SOLELY by interest rates which no one is claiming.
Posted by: ... at August 28, 2025 03:43 PM (0y1cv)

Mises and Hayek claimed it was credit expansion that drives inflation, that the money printing was only part of it.
After 2007 the big banks got money to cover the default shortfalls from the Fed, but also got a sweet deal to keep all that money at the Fed earning interest, so although the losses were covered, there was little Cantillon effect.

You don't actually need money if you get the ability to spend it, and the banks in this case did not spend it, though they got the credit.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 28, 2025 03:56 PM (rbvCR)

83 >>>Powell agreed that he was wrong and Trump was right about the tariffs and inflation. That's some major suck up right there.

Was he wrong because he viewed things through a political lens, or because he doesn't understand basic economics? Either way, it's disqualifying.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at August 28, 2025 03:57 PM (CwhoI)

84 Yes.

https://en.macromicro.me/charts/
83919/US-Fed-Rate-vs-Inflation

Low rates have no relation to increased inflation. At all.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 03:42 PM (GBKbO)

Well, interest rates don't affect inflation, yes.

The money supply affects inflation. AND the fed's manipulation of the money supply also affects interest rates.

Also the graph you posted doesn't really make the case.

Yes, the fed's manipulation of the money supply (and interest rates) is not the SOLE driver of inflation, AND if we screw around trying to fine tune things like we did in the 1970s, we'll really screw everything up.

BUT, money supply is the main driver of inflation. Even when we had a commodity-backed currency, the prices of gold and silver drove the inflation/deflation cycles.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 28, 2025 03:57 PM (N1tpc)

85 MAGA

Posted by: Skip at August 28, 2025 03:57 PM (+qU29)

86 As I've mentioned before, the Fed does not attempt to get inflation down to 0%, as they believe some inflation is actually good for the economy.
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Well, they believe that it's good for their friends in the debt creation industry as the damage from excessive lending and Congressional spending is spread around to everyone rather than putting the most irresponsible banks out of business.

Posted by: Methos at August 28, 2025 03:57 PM (zLwRl)

87 I spend too much time drawing redheads and not enough arguing about global monetary policy.
Posted by: ... at August 28, 2025 03:49 PM (0y1cv)

Back in the day, I was dating a redhead. I spent lots of time drawing her... not nearly enough quartering.

If I had, I'd be a happier man today. In prison, but happier.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 28, 2025 03:58 PM (ZBXTd)

88 Who is still fucking up these stats in directions unfavorable to Trump? Can he fire this retard too?

Literally every fucking financial- or business- or employment-related government stat is initially reported less favorably to Trump (and the GOP) and is then revised. Literally every one. This cannot be a coincidence.

Fire all the assfuckers who are doing this.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 28, 2025 03:58 PM (iFTx/)

89 Does Newsom ever have an original thought? He seems to think copying Trump is his ticket to the WH.

Posted by: IC - Cope Harder, Liberals at August 28, 2025 03:58 PM (DJ7uY)

90 What percentage of foodstuff do people buy that are imported? Honestly close to 100% of my groceries are made in America.
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I think he cited to coffee as an item that could double in price.

That's when it got too stupid and I stopped reading.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 28, 2025 03:58 PM (X/fWw)

91 I have most of my money in CDs and annuities. Higher interest rates would be nice for me but I want what is going to be best for the economy now and the long term.

I remember long ago when I was getting 9-10%on my CDs in the mid 80's. They were in the 6% range in 1999-2000 and then they continued to go down to almost below 1%. They are around 4% now.

Posted by: polynikes at August 28, 2025 03:59 PM (EYmYM)

92 The fed literally responds to inflation (sometimes) so any chart is going to look messy. I'm not sure what you're proving although I will admit - not my area of expertise. I spend too much time drawing redheads and not enough arguing about global monetary policy.
Posted by: ...

The fed, when changing rates, is trying to control the private banks' effect on money supply. Any change, if it even works, takes several months to take effect. So, once again, inflation is always and only a monetary issue.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 28, 2025 03:59 PM (0U5gm)

93 I think hyperdeflation would be a significant problem just like hyperinflation is.

But I do not believe small amounts of deflation are an issue.

Imagine we hit a 1% yearly deflation rate. Does anyone really believe people will put off buying a $500 TV indefinitely just because they'd save $5 per year by waiting?

Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2025 03:59 PM (sKqQm)

94 I don’t know a lot about Bowser. She could be a horrible person. But that said she seems like one of those lefty people who are OK, and just get way out over their skis because that’s what the Democrat Masters want in order for her to stay in the game.

Maybe, just maybe she realizes that doing the right thing might make her more popular than ever.

Either that or she sees the end of home rule.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 28, 2025 04:00 PM (EaUHc)

95 What percentage of foodstuff do people buy that are imported? Honestly close to 100% of my groceries are made in America.
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I think he cited to coffee as an item that could double in price.

That's when it got too stupid and I stopped reading.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 28, 2025 03:58 PM (X/fWw)

Lots of fruit and veggies come from Mexico.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 28, 2025 04:00 PM (/2KcO)

96 Since the bird Hands has been pointed out and soon as you see it you know they are crazy.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at August 28, 2025 04:00 PM (FCrpy)

97

Then look at the 2000s. Interest rates climb, but inflation just kind of bounces around a median. Why didn't it cool off the economy? Why did it just keep on around the same?

And then, of course, there's the early 2020s when we had 0% interest and then an explosion of inflation.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 03:56 PM (GBKbO)

The US has a manipulated interest rate. The Fed manipulates it to try and keep inflation at various target levels, so naturally interest rates follow inflation.

In theory the real rate of holding money(money markets, savings accounts, stuff that is pseudo-cash) should be zero. This neither encourages or discourages saving and spending.

But part of CPI is actual changes in supply and demand which isn't monetary. Price increases due to supply crunches can't effectively be addressed with interest rates or monetary tightening.

2020s inflation was created in part by a large increase in the velocity of money(fiscal stimulus and government spending tends to achieve this). Velocity of money slowed down substantially in the post-08 period which is why the increase in money supply didn't have much price impact.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at August 28, 2025 04:00 PM (okun6)

98 I remember long ago when I was getting 9-10%on my CDs in the mid 80's. They were in the 6% range in 1999-2000 and then they continued to go down to almost below 1%. They are around 4% now.
Posted by: polynikes at August 28, 2025

***
I wish I'd had money to spare for such things in the mid-'80s. Unfortunately my redhead (to tie this in to an earlier comment) got me to spend nearly everything we made.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 28, 2025 04:01 PM (omVj0)

99 Can we all at least agree that Jerome Powell is a honkey sucker pig-head jive turkey fool?

Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 28, 2025 04:01 PM (iFTx/)

100 Trump is so incompetent he can't even deliver a proper recession!
- da experts

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at August 28, 2025 04:01 PM (IMKWe)

101 Short Powell: “I surrendered after the enemy was already in my house”

Posted by: Marcus T at August 28, 2025 04:01 PM (EaUHc)

102 "But Trump is a fascist (whatever that means), and a wannabe king and he's going to cancel elections and he's deporting American citizens and he's a 34-time convicted felon!!11!!eleventy!1!!"

Posted by: Idiotic Leftists Everywhere at August 28, 2025 04:02 PM (qBdHI)

103 Persistent inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon

Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 28, 2025 04:02 PM (ycs3a)

104 93 I think hyperdeflation would be a significant problem just like hyperinflation is.

But I do not believe small amounts of deflation are an issue.

Imagine we hit a 1% yearly deflation rate. Does anyone really believe people will put off buying a $500 TV indefinitely just because they'd save $5 per year by waiting?

Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2025 03:59 PM (sKqQm)

But could we run and plan things well around cutting wages or leaving them nominally flat each year? Could be the answer is yes, static wages over centuries did exist in the distant past.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at August 28, 2025 04:02 PM (okun6)

105 Are 3.0 to 3.3 and 2.3 to 2.0 big adjustments?

I ask because I've not been paying close attention and it seemed to me like the adjustments under Biden were bigger, only explicable by politics.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at August 28, 2025 04:02 PM (5GshG)

106 2020s inflation was created in part by a large increase in the velocity of money(fiscal stimulus and government spending tends to achieve this

Hey at least we can all be comforted by the notion that while Biden took 50% of everyone's savings through inflation he spent it wisely on Obamaphones for illegals, hookers for Ukrainians, and the finest no-show jobs an NGO worker could hope for

Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2025 04:02 PM (sKqQm)

107 so has netanyahus cyber perv eaten his gun, he was not in court for his mandated hearing yesterday.

Posted by: n at August 28, 2025 04:03 PM (tbHsp)

108 Yeah, he had been claiming for the last 4 months that inflation due to tariffs was going to show up any day now.
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Monetary Inflation is caused by an increase in the amount of currency in circulation.

Higher prices are not automatically “inflation”. I understand why they want to confuse the public generally, but if he cannot make fine distinctions and be specific, he has no business in such a position.

Tariffs might cause higher prices for some things. They might be unpopular. But the goal is to re-shore American production. American jobs, and those dollars circulate in America and provide much needed revenue to cities, pensions, and capital for loans and improvements, maintenance and upkeep. Wages have been stagnant since 1974. Maybe tens of millions of foreigners and illegal aliens depress wages too. Ya think?

Borrowing phony baloney money to purchase foreign made goods is “not sustainable”.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 28, 2025 04:03 PM (qdur7)

109 I am in a wood chipper frame of mind. This post soothed me a bit. Not by much, however, Ace.

I have been arguing with a few people about the trans deal not being parental responsibility. It is when they are under your roof and your wallet. What's in your wallet? Well, it was not telling my sons they were girls.

I haven't felt this way in awhile. I guess it could be cathartic, seeing as no one is in the house but me and my husband (who is not trans, nor likes trans). He's safe. The mood will be better tomorrow.

The UK DM was infected with a virus this morning. I was reading an article about the demon in MN and my laptop went wonky. The demon was saying it felt bad about being brainwashed then whoop!

So I found the article in the NY Post and all was well.

Any news agent that calls this demonic weirdo by a pronoun gets a lot of return fire. Good.

And I continue to wonder if the liberal parental unit helped it buy ammo/guns (assuming without knowing) while paying rent. If so, they are partially responsible. I sort of doubt the demon's job helping in a cannabis store paid well. I could be wrong. I also could be a supermodel.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at August 28, 2025 04:03 PM (6PCLE)

110 Ashley Babbit, killed January 6th, is due a military funeral!

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at August 28, 2025 04:04 PM (NFX2v)

111 Less than 6 months ago, the "experts" were churning out articles about how the price of eggs was likely never going to come down.

I know, 'cause my local breakfast burrito place had posted clippings in the window as they had to raise their prices.

But yeah:
Trust the experts. They know stuff. They went to school and such. They're smart.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 28, 2025 04:04 PM (X/fWw)

112 Back in the day, I was dating a redhead. I spent lots of time drawing her... not nearly enough quartering.

If I had, I'd be a happier man today. In prison, but happier.
Posted by: BurtTC

And she could have been four times the person she is today.

Posted by: ... at August 28, 2025 04:04 PM (0y1cv)

113 Imagine we hit a 1% yearly deflation rate. Does anyone really believe people will put off buying a $500 TV indefinitely just because they'd save $5 per year by waiting?
Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2025 03:59 PM (sKqQm)

Paul Krugman wrote extensively about this and claimed this was the exact thing that caused the Great Depression. He calls it the Liquidity Trap and it is stupid for the very reason you state.

(Hoover and FDR spent a decade trying to prevent the defaults created by credit creation post WWI from liquidating the malinvestment and the excess funds credit)

Posted by: Kindltot at August 28, 2025 04:04 PM (rbvCR)

114 What democrats do is allow problems to fester, and claim there is nothing they can do about it.

Trump comes along...and does something about it.

People start thinking, hey wait, you mean I DON'T have to be beaten up by a homeless guy? I don't have to get carjacked?

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at August 28, 2025 04:05 PM (D1vbu)

115 Are 3.0 to 3.3 and 2.3 to 2.0 big adjustments?

I ask because I've not been paying close attention and it seemed to me like the adjustments under Biden were bigger, only explicable by politics.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at August 28, 2025 04:02 PM (5GshG)
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They are 10% adjustments. That's significant. I would say very significant.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 28, 2025 04:05 PM (iFTx/)

116 But could we run and plan things well around cutting wages or leaving them nominally flat each year? Could be the answer is yes, static wages over centuries did exist in the distant past.

It would be interesting to see.

In my time in the corporate world I have never seen companies tie salary increases explicitly to inflation - hell during the Biden hyperinflation years increases in the private sector were about the same as they were in the more stable Trump years.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2025 04:05 PM (sKqQm)

117 The Hill
Defense
Air Force to provide funeral honors to Ashli Babbitt

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at August 28, 2025 04:05 PM (NFX2v)

118 Powell doesn't deserve to keep his job just for his ignorant comment that tariffs cause inflation.

I knew that tariffs don't cause inflation my sophomore year in high school economics.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 28, 2025 04:05 PM (0U5gm)

119 118 Powell doesn't deserve to keep his job just for his ignorant comment that tariffs cause inflation.

I knew that tariffs don't cause inflation my sophomore year in high school economics.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 28, 2025 04:05 PM (0U5gm)

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Bruh.

"Inflation will be transitory."
-2021

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 04:06 PM (GBKbO)

120 The LA cops said they could not arrest the man because they hadn't personally witnessed the assault.

So if I rob a bank and the cops don't see it, then it's totes OK? Band cameras don't count eh?
Well done Newsome!

Posted by: Diogenes at August 28, 2025 04:06 PM (2WIwB)

121 Since the bird Hands has been pointed out and soon as you see it you know they are crazy.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at August 28, 2025

***
The blonde actress with the undefinable accent who does the Home Title Lock TV spots in her car uses her right hand that way. But she is talking about criminals taking your house title out of your name; so the gesture makes sense.

Who is she, anyway? I did a 'Net search and the actress who comes up is Bella Lueckemeyer -- who does not look or sound anything like this blonde lady. Anybody know?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 28, 2025 04:06 PM (omVj0)

122 And she could have been four times the person she is today.
Posted by: ... at August 28, 2025 04:04 PM (0y1cv)

They say you should look at the mother, when you want to know what some hot young thang will look like, in time.

She probably is now four times the woman she was.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 28, 2025 04:06 PM (EDXUr)

123 Go to your grocery store and read the labels. Fruits and vegetables, especially during the winter months all come from outside the country. Ditto nuts. Even a lot of candy is made in Mexico or Canada. As big Flo al food conglomerates like Mondelez have taken over they have shifted production outside the US, cheapened ingredients, and raised prices for no other reason than to increase profits. I mentioned the other day a staple around here, Peroni beer, move production to Milwaukee and started adding corn syrup. To beer. That’s after the company was sold.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 28, 2025 04:06 PM (EaUHc)

124 But I do not believe small amounts of deflation are an issue.

I would be ecstatic to see some deflation. Undo the inflationary damage that happened under Biden.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at August 28, 2025 04:07 PM (a+4eV)

125 Posted by: Marcus T at August 28, 2025 04:00 PM (EaUHc

Maybe she's waking up a bit. It does happen to people who are Democrats sometimes.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 28, 2025 04:07 PM (2GCMq)

126 Here is the thing - arresting and prosecuting and incarcerating people is expensive.

And Dem states and cities are pissing away all their money on climate change, and DEI garbage, and massive union contracts.

The only way to save only is to stop arresting people who can't pay, and fine people who can pay. That is why you get a ticket for illegal parking, and a homeless guy gets to take a dump in the reflecting pool of the Washington monument.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at August 28, 2025 04:08 PM (D1vbu)

127 Imagine we hit a 1% yearly deflation rate. Does anyone really believe people will put off buying a $500 TV indefinitely just because they'd save $5 per year by waiting?
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Indefinitely? No

But they might wait until they had saved up for it rather than putting it on the credit card, and the banks can't have that.

Posted by: Methos at August 28, 2025 04:08 PM (zLwRl)

128 . I mentioned the other day a staple around here, Peroni beer, move production to Milwaukee and started adding corn syrup. To beer. That’s after the company was sold.
Posted by: Marcus T at August

Wait, what? Peroni is Italian.

Posted by: Piper at August 28, 2025 04:08 PM (p4NUW)

129 Maybe she's waking up a bit. It does happen to people who are Democrats sometimes.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 28, 2025 04:07 PM

I shall not believe it!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 28, 2025 04:08 PM (kgE5c)

130 123 Go to your grocery store and read the labels. Fruits and vegetables, especially during the winter months all come from outside the country. Ditto nuts. Even a lot of candy is made in Mexico or Canada. As big Flo al food conglomerates like Mondelez have taken over they have shifted production outside the US, cheapened ingredients, and raised prices for no other reason than to increase profits. I mentioned the other day a staple around here, Peroni beer, move production to Milwaukee and started adding corn syrup. To beer. That’s after the company was sold.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 28, 2025 04:06 PM (EaUHc)

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Only about 15% of America's consumed food is imported.

https://is.gd/RnEY9I

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 04:08 PM (GBKbO)

131 They say you should look at the mother, when you want to know what some hot young thang will look like, in time.

She probably is now four times the woman she was.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 28, 2025 04:06 PM (EDXUr)

NTPD Sergeant: Edwards, if you were half the man that I am...
Jay: Hey man, what are you talking about? I AM half the man that you are!

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 28, 2025 04:09 PM (N1tpc)

132 Love this argument.

Powell always knew tariffs don't cause inflation. He's a hack.

As for the chart, its meaningless for this argument because it is not measuring what you think it is. Interest rates impact inflation to the extent easier money allows more money into the system. If the economy is not efficient enough to absorb the extra dollars - inflation shows up. If it is, then it doesn't.

The Fed usually is way behind the curve, and so moves too late in either direction. In this case, the .25 point cut that was signaled by Powell (after getting his reputation beat in arguing about the inflationary impact of tariffs) is too late. Bond rates hardly moved after the announcement. The Fed is still way too tight and is choking off growth by restricting the ability of people to access more money to chase economic opportunity. July monthly economic numbers are a bit less exciting than Q2. The Fed should have been ready with .50 cut in April or May. But the ETB and TJM you are a bit incorrect. Rates do impact inflation to some degree.

Posted by: Black JEM at August 28, 2025 04:09 PM (GZYu7)

133 I think Powell is in charge of the Fed the way Mueller was in charge of his "investigation."

And I think that's why Cooks is going to fight all the way to SCOTUS to not get fired.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 28, 2025 04:09 PM (X/fWw)

134 I have been saving for 30 years for retirement. Seeing inflation is a ball buster.

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 28, 2025 04:09 PM (NtVYv)

135 The judge assigned to Lisa Cook’s lawsuit is a neverTrump activist, black woman.

Completely random I’m sure!

Posted by: Maroon at August 28, 2025 04:09 PM (Z9/UJ)

136 115 Are 3.0 to 3.3 and 2.3 to 2.0 big adjustments?

I ask because I've not been paying close attention and it seemed to me like the adjustments under Biden were bigger, only explicable by politics.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at August 28, 2025 04:02 PM (5GshG)
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They are 10% adjustments. That's significant. I would say very significant.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 28, 2025 04:05 PM (iFTx/)

I'm trying to ask a different question.

I'm asking whether they are big adjustments in the context of these kinds of numbers revisions, which seem like a routine, recurring thing that happens once the data is in.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at August 28, 2025 04:10 PM (5GshG)

137 And yes, I know Coors bought it, but it is still mainly brewed in Italy. I think the only place in the US it is brewed is GA, but that is relatively new and not a lot. I

Posted by: Piper at August 28, 2025 04:10 PM (p4NUW)

138 Wait, what? Peroni is Italian.
Posted by: Piper at August 28, 2025 04:08 PM (p4NUW)

Just like Chef Boyardee.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 28, 2025 04:10 PM (v2PU4)

139 "One such product is Potash (Canada being the world's primary source)."

There was a lot more potash here before vaporizers and edibles.

Posted by: Dark Litigator at August 28, 2025 04:10 PM (KAi1n)

140 Go to your grocery store and read the labels. Fruits and vegetables, especially during the winter months all come from outside the country. Ditto nuts.

Posted by: Marcus T

I find it pretty amazing that capitalism has made it possible to get fresh blueberries every month of the year, for about the same price. US, Southern US, Mexico, South America - you see them from all over, depending upon the season.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 28, 2025 04:10 PM (0U5gm)

141 Do you think people will ask themselves why didn’t Democrats just clean up the crime, and then further realize they’re getting doinked in the squeak hole for their vote, and the doinking will continue once Democrats get past the election?

Nah.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 28, 2025 03:55 PM (EaUHc)

I think most will credit Trump no matter who does it, and I don't have a huge problem with even Trump haters benefiting from government doing its positive functions for everyone.

Those who are producing these ops with high crime and misery, and mass murder are trying to herd the people back on the plantation for protection. Thwart them with my blessing.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 28, 2025 04:11 PM (8avO+)

142 "LMAO! CNBC is currently MOCKING the CRAP out of Democrats and Elizabeth Warren after the latest inflation and strong GDP report"

Warren, with her endless scolding, holier-than-though attitude and church lady look is so incredibly mock-able that it is amazing anybody takes her seriously. But the same could be said for most top Dems.

Posted by: Ripley at August 28, 2025 04:11 PM (GUOwU)

143 “ Only about 15% of America's consumed food is imported.

https://is.gd/RnEY9I
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 04:08 PM (GBKbO)”

Bullshit. Many products are also made with things like grain from outside the country (a lot Canadian) and they don’t report that on the label. Foodstuffs like avocados, where some of the best are grown in California and Arizona, all now come from Mexico. It’s not just “whole” foodstuffs” which report the country of origin, it’s the ingredients they don’t report on the label because it’s manufactured here.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 28, 2025 04:11 PM (EaUHc)

144 I would be ecstatic to see some deflation. Undo the inflationary damage that happened under Biden.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at August 28, 2025 04:07 PM (a+4eV)

Oddly enough, one way to create a manageable deflation would be to keep interest rates high, to prevent credit creation by pricing it out of the market. This is what was done in the 70's. And kind of what Powell is doing now, to "chill" the economy a bit.

Friedman's monetary phenomenon aside, money is now loaned out of thin air out of the promise to repay it, so the credit creation is more important than the printing press.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 28, 2025 04:12 PM (rbvCR)

145 ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at August 28, 2025 04:03 PM (6PCLE)

Even if you're not currently a super model you will always be in the hearts of the men here, and I like to think of the supermodel ( whose name I can recall now) who has been married for decades to the same fellow, gives money to charity and like you seems like a sensible and nice woman and still looks good as well .

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 28, 2025 04:12 PM (2GCMq)

146 Only about 15% of America's consumed food is imported.

https://is.gd/RnEY9I
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 04:08 PM (GBKbO)

75% is Cheesy Poops, so therefore, not food.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 28, 2025 04:12 PM (RkrlD)

147 143 Bullshit. Many products are also made with things like grain from outside the country (a lot Canadian) and they don’t report that on the label. Foodstuffs like avocados, where some of the best are grown in California and Arizona, all now come from Mexico. It’s not just “whole” foodstuffs” which report the country of origin, it’s the ingredients they don’t report on the label because it’s manufactured here.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 28, 2025 04:11 PM (EaUHc)

======

You have a source for that?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 04:12 PM (GBKbO)

148 Warren, with her endless scolding, holier-than-though attitude and church lady look is so incredibly mock-able that it is amazing anybody takes her seriously. But the same could be said for most top Dems.
Posted by: Ripley at August 28, 2025 04:11 PM

Forget it, Jake...it's Beantown.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 28, 2025 04:12 PM (kgE5c)

149 It's just simple politeness.

Eric Daugherty@EricLDaugh
NEW - JAKE TAPPER: We need to make sure we use the correct pronouns for the Minneapolis Catholic church sh-oter.
"There's been some confusion as to what the name was...it was ROBERT, but she identifies as a female, wants her name to reflect that ID."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur! at August 28, 2025 04:13 PM (L/fGl)

150 Heh.
Out here in Washington State there is a city called Edmonds. They are slashing services, cops, dog catchers, and are considering selling the City Hall and some city parks to make up the $13 million shortfall. State Law will not allow an increase in property taxes beyond 1% unless approved by voters so they are asking for a special vote to raise property taxes above that to cancel the shortfall. If approved it will cost each homeowner an average of $760 more in taxes, and would raise an estimated $14 million.
Fixed right?
No!
Hint: The City Council all run as non-aligned with political parties. But guess how they roll?
So the new tax will be added to the existing tax. And bet your ass that next year...the 1% will be automatically added.
And they will still be in the hole.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 28, 2025 04:13 PM (2WIwB)

151 I find it pretty amazing that capitalism has made it possible to get fresh blueberries every month of the year, for about the same price. US, Southern US, Mexico, South America - you see them from all over, depending upon the season.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 28, 2025 04:10 PM (0U5gm)

For certain values of "fresh."

Posted by: BurtTC at August 28, 2025 04:14 PM (FASZa)

152 >> think most will credit Trump no matter who does it, and I don't have a huge problem with even Trump haters benefiting from government doing its positive functions for everyone.

You will never hear that kind of magnanimity coming from a Democrat, where politics are taken out of the equation and they say- this is a good thing. That said I believe Trump will get some credit but the mouth breathers won’t go there.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 28, 2025 04:14 PM (EaUHc)

153 Newsome with a original thought?
Mostly following Karl with some new terms

Posted by: Skip at August 28, 2025 04:14 PM (+qU29)

154 145. Whose name I CAN'T recall now.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 28, 2025 04:14 PM (2GCMq)

155 Mayor Bowser is buy8ng her time. If she runs her mouth the Feds will take over managerial control of DC by revoking home rule. She is Mayor at the behest of Congress.

Posted by: Bang-a-gong at August 28, 2025 04:14 PM (SRiFu)

156 avocados have to be the biggest scam . best marketing in the history of food

how is everybody convinced some slimy green flavorless thing is good for anything

Posted by: n at August 28, 2025 04:15 PM (6T4Z4)

157 140 Go to your grocery store and read the labels. Fruits and vegetables, especially during the winter months all come from outside the country. Ditto nuts.

Posted by: Marcus T

I find it pretty amazing that capitalism has made it possible to get fresh blueberries every month of the year, for about the same price. US, Southern US, Mexico, South America - you see them from all over, depending upon the season.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 28, 2025 04:10 PM (0U5gm)

__________________________________

I understand that "made in the USA" labels on meat products may or may not be true. There appears to be a loophole of some sort relative to meat products. I have a butcher where I get all my meat products (not the grocery store) so I don't really know if that accusation is true. However, I've heard Glenn Beck mention it in trying to advertise some co-op of ranchers who send meat right to your door.

Posted by: Orson at August 28, 2025 04:15 PM (dIske)

158 BUT, money supply is the main driver of inflation. Even when we had a commodity-backed currency, the prices of gold and silver drove the inflation/deflation cycles.
———

The supply did. The price was fixed, by law. Commodities didn’t “back” the currency, gold and silver was the money. Credit and paper currencies and substitutions traded at a discount.

It was the interest rates that drove expansion and contractions. Calling in loans, payable in gold only, something that did not endear London bankers to much of America.

We saw the same thing when large mountains of Silver were discovered in Nevada. Farmers and smaller banks wanted “easy” money - based on Silver dollars. Pegging the correct exchange rate between silver and gold had always been problematic. Arbitrage became possible, and one or other would completely disappear from circulation.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 28, 2025 04:15 PM (qdur7)

159 75% is Cheesy Poops, so therefore, not food.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 28, 2025 04:12 PM (RkrlD)

Damn it! I thought I got rid of that camera in the bathroom!

Posted by: Diogenes at August 28, 2025 04:15 PM (2WIwB)

160 Eric Daugherty@EricLDaugh
NEW - JAKE TAPPER: We need to make sure we use the correct pronouns for the Minneapolis Catholic church sh-oter.
"There's been some confusion as to what the name was...it was ROBERT, but she identifies as a female, wants her name to reflect that ID."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur! at August 28, 2025 04:13 PM (L/fGl)

By all means Tapper, you fucking idiot, please humor her.

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 28, 2025 04:16 PM (NtVYv)

161 Imagine we hit a 1% yearly deflation rate. Does anyone really believe people will put off buying a $500 TV indefinitely just because they'd save $5 per year by waiting?
Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2025 03:59 PM (sKqQm)

Paul Krugman wrote extensively about this and claimed this was the exact thing that caused the Great Depression. He calls it the Liquidity Trap and it is stupid for the very reason you state.

(Hoover and FDR spent a decade trying to prevent the defaults created by credit creation post WWI from liquidating the malinvestment and the excess funds credit)

Posted by: Kindltot at August 28, 2025 04:04 PM

I remember being told that budget surpluses and a balanced budget without debt was a bad thing. There was a very brief period when clinton was president that newt gingrich made him sign the budget that resulted in a surplus and the experts told us that was a very bad thing.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 28, 2025 04:16 PM (0N4FZ)

162 Powell agreed that he was wrong and Trump was right ~~about the tariffs and inflation. That's some major suck up right there.~~

Ritual seppaku. Only answer.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 28, 2025 04:16 PM (V4yUe)

163 The highest use of avocados is guacamole.
It is known.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at August 28, 2025 04:16 PM (5GshG)

164 Friedman's monetary phenomenon aside, money is now loaned out of thin air out of the promise to repay it, so the credit creation is more important than the printing press.

Posted by: Kindltot

The problem is that when our government borrows several trillion and dumps it into the economy, the money creation in the banking system is supercharged, so the whole system becomes much less stable.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 28, 2025 04:17 PM (0U5gm)

165 how is everybody convinced some slimy green flavorless thing is good for anything
Posted by: n at August 28, 2025 04:15 PM (6T4Z4)

Hey, some slimy green "flavorless" things have value, you know.

Posted by: Big Green Dildo at August 28, 2025 04:17 PM (X1yDi)

166 >> You have a source for that?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 04:12 PM (GBKbO)

No because as the USDA will tell you it’s impossible to estimate because the regulations don’t demand it. BTW it’s why we need to revise the labeling standards for products wholly made in the US including beef. The only way one might come to that figure is by looking at imports. Maybe.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 28, 2025 04:17 PM (EaUHc)

167 The Fed usually is way behind the curve, and so moves too late in either direction. In this case, the .25 point cut that was signaled by Powell (after getting his reputation beat in arguing about the inflationary impact of tariffs) is too late. Bond rates hardly moved after the announcement. The Fed is still way too tight and is choking off growth by restricting the ability of people to access more money to chase economic opportunity. July monthly economic numbers are a bit less exciting than Q2. The Fed should have been ready with .50 cut in April or May. But the ETB and TJM you are a bit incorrect. Rates do impact inflation to some degree.
Posted by: Black JEM at August 28, 2025 04:09 PM (GZYu7)

When Russia was hit with the murder-death-kill sanctions they tightened up on their interest rate for a bit, to avoid panic problems. Once they had some data they made some minor adjustments every few month as the war went on.

Powell could easily do the same thing if he was actually interested in the economy instead of trying to tank it.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 28, 2025 04:17 PM (8avO+)

168 BREAKING: The Fed Redefines A "technical aecession as Two Consecutive Quarters of positive growth > 3% in Real Gross Domestic Product (GDP). Developing ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Muslim Commie Momscrawny 2028: Free Weights for Every Cuck! at August 28, 2025 04:18 PM (56jWD)

169 President Trump should win the Nobel prize for peace and economics. He proved all of them wrong.

Posted by: Ron at August 28, 2025 04:18 PM (KDtr3)

170 avocados have to be the biggest scam . best marketing in the history of food

how is everybody convinced some slimy green flavorless thing is good for anything
Posted by: n at August 28, 2025 04:15 PM (6T4Z4)

I'm not an avocado fan, but it's not "flavorless". It has a subtle flavor. Nothing wrong with it, it has a little buttery/woody flavor.

However, guacamole is absolutely nasty and I have no idea how people can eat that.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 28, 2025 04:18 PM (N1tpc)

171 NEW - JAKE TAPPER: We need to make sure we use the correct pronouns for the Minneapolis Catholic church sh-oter.
"There's been some confusion as to what the name was...it was ROBERT, but she identifies as a female, wants her name to reflect that ID."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

ROBERTROBERTROBERTROBERTGETYOURPROSTATECHECKEDROBERT

Posted by: rickb223 at August 28, 2025 04:18 PM (V4yUe)

172 149 It's just simple politeness.

Eric Daugherty@EricLDaugh
NEW - JAKE TAPPER: We need to make sure we use the correct pronouns for the Minneapolis Catholic church sh-oter.
"There's been some confusion as to what the name was...it was ROBERT, but she identifies as a female, wants her name to reflect that ID."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur! at August 28, 2025 04:13 PM (L/fGl)

So Jake,
If you're getting a hummer, and you don't look down, do your pronouns change depending on if the person servicing you is a man or a woman?

Posted by: Diogenes at August 28, 2025 04:18 PM (2WIwB)

173 I don't guess this recent holiday weekend gas prices have figured in yet. A 30 cent per gallon increase is highway robbery.

Posted by: Case at August 28, 2025 04:18 PM (iwlvf)

174 The highest use of avocados is guacamole.
It is known.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at August 28, 2025 04:16 PM (5GshG)

Given how quickly they go bad, from the store to the house, I think the most common use for avs is filling up the garbage can.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 28, 2025 04:18 PM (LTnl5)

175 "GDP Revised Upwards"

Unexpectedly! Unexpectedly, I say! Well, maybe not that unexpectedly.

Posted by: Another Anon at August 28, 2025 04:18 PM (4h45B)

176 Prior to World War II, mortgage loans were typically 50% down 7 year notes, callable at any time. How many would qualify today? Banks clearly did not want to take on much risk, period.

The GI loans were a smart move to get home ownership going. But it has turned into a racket.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 28, 2025 04:18 PM (qdur7)

177 I buy Nolan Ryan ground beef so I know it's American beef.

I think.

Posted by: polynikes at August 28, 2025 04:19 PM (EYmYM)

178 However, guacamole is absolutely nasty and I have no idea how people can eat that.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 28, 2025 04:18 PM (N1tpc)

Oh well, more for me then.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 28, 2025 04:20 PM (khVJI)

179 avocado > okra

Posted by: Diogenes at August 28, 2025 04:20 PM (2WIwB)

180 When Russia was hit with the murder-death-kill sanctions they tightened up on their interest rate for a bit, to avoid panic problems. Once they had some data they made some minor adjustments every few month as the war went on.

Powell could easily do the same thing if he was actually interested in the economy instead of trying to tank it.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 28, 2025 04:17 PM (8avO+)

Very nice, subtle "Demolition Man" reference. Well done.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 28, 2025 04:20 PM (N1tpc)

181
Even if you're not currently a super model you will always be in the hearts of the men here, and I like to think of the supermodel ( whose name I can recall now) who has been married for decades to the same fellow, gives money to charity and like you seems like a sensible and nice woman and still looks good as well .
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 28, 2025 04:12 PM (2GCMq)

You are sweet. Thanks. I don't currently look great. But it can be corrected. I could have been a model but my mother said no. She said no to a lot of things, like me being a flight attendant after HS. She probably saved me from some very bad stuff that could have happened to me, fresh off the farm.

I think you are referring to Kathy Ireland. She makes a lot of $ with her own brand and seems to be a great person.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at August 28, 2025 04:20 PM (6PCLE)

182 avocados have to be the biggest scam . best marketing in the history of food

how is everybody convinced some slimy green flavorless thing is good for anything
Posted by: n at August 28, 2025 04:15 PM (6T4Z4)

Like Rice and Oatmeal are taste sensations in themselves.

Some foods are good to put the flavor onto and provide nutrients.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 28, 2025 04:21 PM (8avO+)

183 BUT, money supply is the main driver of inflation. Even when we had a commodity-backed currency, the prices of gold and silver drove the inflation/deflation cycles.
———

The supply did. The price was fixed, by law. Commodities didn’t “back” the currency, gold and silver was the money. Credit and paper currencies and substitutions traded at a discount.

It was the interest rates that drove expansion and contractions. Calling in loans, payable in gold only, something that did not endear London bankers to much of America.

We saw the same thing when large mountains of Silver were discovered in Nevada. Farmers and smaller banks wanted “easy” money - based on Silver dollars. Pegging the correct exchange rate between silver and gold had always been problematic. Arbitrage became possible, and one or other would completely disappear from circulation.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 28, 2025 04:15 PM (qdur7)
==
Money supply to economic need. When we had hard currency it was very good at choking off economic growth. Lots of depressions.

Posted by: Black JEM at August 28, 2025 04:21 PM (GZYu7)

184 Yes, I would love some fruits and vegetables from a country where most people don’t have indoor plumbing and the use of chemicals is poorly regulated, said nobody ever.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 28, 2025 04:21 PM (EaUHc)

185 We saw the same thing when large mountains of Silver were discovered in Nevada. Farmers and smaller banks wanted “easy” money - based on Silver dollars. Pegging the correct exchange rate between silver and gold had always been problematic. Arbitrage became possible, and one or other would completely disappear from circulation.
Posted by: Common Tater at August 28, 2025 04:15 PM (qdur7)

Bimetalism is a problem for a currency since the values and supplies of the metals are not fixed against each other, even if the official rate is. This causes a certain amount of arbitrage that can get out of hand.
In Lydia, of Croesus and Midas' fame, they solved this by alloying silver and gold into Electrum at a fixed rate, so that the change in prices between the metals would still result in a stable price. The modern solution was to move away from Silver to Gold.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 28, 2025 04:21 PM (rbvCR)

186 Why not just give the unhoused fentanyl? Call it a misdemeanor and go on donut break. Better civilization through chemistry.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at August 28, 2025 04:21 PM (wBaIH)

187 avocado > okra

Posted by: Diogenes at August 28, 2025 04:20 PM (2WIwB)

Slimy green used dildo > Okra

Posted by: BurtTC at August 28, 2025 04:21 PM (dZIAr)

188 Anybody had deep fried avocado? I wanna try that.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at August 28, 2025 04:21 PM (XvL8K)

189 I'm not an avocado fan, but it's not "flavorless". It has a subtle flavor. Nothing wrong with it, it has a little buttery/woody flavor.

However, guacamole is absolutely nasty and I have no idea how people can eat that.
Posted by: Formerly

it is at best not offensive otherwise it is nothing more than a slimy greasy way to convey a bit of garlic, tomato and lemon via a chip to your mouth

basically it is tree vomit

Posted by: n at August 28, 2025 04:21 PM (cxLh/)

190 avocado > okra

Posted by: Diogenes at August 28, 2025 04:20 PM (2WIwB)

You shut your damned mouth.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 28, 2025 04:21 PM (N1tpc)

191 Gas here has been just under $3.30 in se Pa for a few months

Posted by: Skip at August 28, 2025 04:22 PM (+qU29)

192 Late to the thread and probably posted already.

BLS former director now knows why she was sacked

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at August 28, 2025 04:22 PM (JkCto)

193 So Jake,
If you're getting a hummer, and you don't look down, do your pronouns change depending on if the person servicing you is a man or a woman?
Posted by: Diogenes

What do a tightrope walker across the Grand Canyon and a guy getting a blow job from Whoopi Goldberg have in common?

DON'T LOOK DOWN!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur! at August 28, 2025 04:22 PM (L/fGl)

194 >>> 171 NEW - JAKE TAPPER: We need to make sure we use the correct pronouns for the Minneapolis Catholic church sh-oter.
"There's been some confusion as to what the name was...it was ROBERT, but she identifies as a female, wants her name to reflect that ID."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

ROBERT ROBERT ROBERT ROBERT GET YOUR PROSTATE CHECKED ROBERT
Posted by: rickb223 at August 28, 2025 04:18 PM (V4yUe)

*lights cig*

Posted by: margins at August 28, 2025 04:22 PM (ULPxl)

195
The assault was caught on video. The LA cops said they could not arrest the man because they hadn't personally witnessed the assault. They claimed video just taken moments before wasn't enough. They said that to get the man arrested, the citizen would have to go to the court and press charges himself, getting a "private warrant" for arrest.

And they told the citizen that there was no point even doing that because they were going to claim the assault was just a misdemeanor, deserving of no punishment at all.

------

The message the police think they are sending is to just let these human cockroaches do whatever they want But the message actually amounts to something else. Step1: Don't draw attention to yourself by reporting the problem. Step 2: Wait a few days. There's another step after that.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at August 28, 2025 04:22 PM (azNOR)

196 I like Guac depending on who makes it. I don't like avocado slices.

Posted by: polynikes at August 28, 2025 04:22 PM (EYmYM)

197 Prior to World War II, mortgage loans were typically 50% down 7 year notes, callable at any time. How many would qualify today? Banks clearly did not want to take on much risk, period.

The GI loans were a smart move to get home ownership going. But it has turned into a racket.
Posted by: Common Tater at August 28, 2025

***
A house in 1938 cost about $3900. A worker in manufacturing or industry, or a white-collar worker like a lawyer, could save up $2000 for a down payment and actually buy a home -- on one income.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 28, 2025 04:22 PM (omVj0)

198 Avocado oil is one of the healthier oils to use. I like EVOO myself, but the chips in avocado oil are pretty awesome. Anything is better than the seed and vegetable oil.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 28, 2025 04:23 PM (EaUHc)

199 avocado > okra

Posted by: Diogenes

sort of the same as abstinence > gay rape ganbang

Posted by: n at August 28, 2025 04:23 PM (cxLh/)

200 *lights cig*
Posted by: margins

Yeah. Sorry.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 28, 2025 04:23 PM (V4yUe)

201 Posted by: Diogenes at August 28, 2025 04:18 PM (2WIwB

Shouldn't the shooter be identified as "dead" now..
Didn't they die by a self inflicted gunshot wound?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 28, 2025 04:23 PM (2GCMq)

202 137 And yes, I know Coors bought it, but it is still mainly brewed in Italy. I think the only place in the US it is brewed is GA, but that is relatively new and not a lot. I
Posted by: Piper at August 28, 2025 04:10 PM (p4NUW)

I probably couldn't tell the difference between Peroni and Coors Light in a blind tasting. Now, Moretti...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at August 28, 2025 04:23 PM (nbLIj)

203 I was not expecting this.

Posted by: The Spanish Inquisition at August 28, 2025 04:23 PM (WGbY0)

204 Avacados are the reason people hug trees.

Being serious, I love avocados. Growing up here they were a staple.

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 28, 2025 04:23 PM (NtVYv)

205 Robert was a mental case who slaughtered children praying in church.

I don’t GAF about what he wanted to be called, I’m just glad he’s dead. I’m a little unclear why CIA spokesholes are more concerned about deviant sex pervert nomenclature than murdered children, but that’s just me.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 28, 2025 04:24 PM (qdur7)

206 I once dated a girl whose mother made the best chitlins and okra, I think with ham hocks, on the planet.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 28, 2025 04:24 PM (EaUHc)

207 Avocado oil is one of the healthier oils to use. I like EVOO myself, but the chips in avocado oil are pretty awesome. Anything is better than the seed and vegetable oil.
Posted by: Marcus T

Found a butcher shop four miles from work that sells 5lb blocks of beef tallow made in store for $10.99/lb.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 28, 2025 04:25 PM (V4yUe)

208 https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/
1961157250665324768

They are having fistfights in the Mexican Legislature over deciding whether or not to finally take out the CARTELS

-----

That's something.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 04:25 PM (GBKbO)

209 Joe Kernen is the pride of Cincinnati (Cincy loves Sarah Eisen too).

Posted by: Oglebay at August 28, 2025 04:25 PM (2ap+5)

210 Okra is absolutely amazing.

Don't boil it (unless in a gumbo), but roast it- I'm sure at least some of you will change your mind. Either chopped and baked in an oven or skewered on a grill.

3/4 of my children absolutely love it. I'm so glad we have an Indian store nearby that has it fresh year round. (It grew VERY well back in Virginia. Not so for Michigan.)

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 28, 2025 04:25 PM (N1tpc)

211 I probably couldn't tell the difference between Peroni and Coors Light in a blind tasting. Now, Moretti...
Posted by: Joe Kidd at August 28, 2025 04:23 PM (nbLIj)

The commercials claim Peroni is a little droopier

Posted by: Kindltot at August 28, 2025 04:25 PM (rbvCR)

212 Very nice, subtle "Demolition Man" reference. Well done.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 28, 2025 04:20 PM (N1tpc)

What people have forgotten was that our elites just assumed that these sanctions would destroy Russia and they would not have to fight a war at all. They have been scrabbling about in a panic ever since, and Europe has been trying to get us into it on the ground to cover up the crap they were pulling there.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 28, 2025 04:25 PM (8avO+)

213 Could somebody please just punch Jake Tapper where his dick used to be.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 28, 2025 04:25 PM (EaUHc)

214 Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at August 28, 2025 04:20 PM (6PCLE)

You are funny as well. And thanks for the name of Kathy Ireland. I would not have recalled that.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 28, 2025 04:25 PM (2GCMq)

215 I saw the Cheesy Poops open for the Butthole Surfers at City Gardens in '84.

Posted by: ShainS -- Muslim Commie Momscrawny 2028: Free Weights for Every Cuck! at August 28, 2025 04:26 PM (SioDU)

216 Just like the border - all it took was for someone with the balls and common sense to do the things that everyone with two brain cells to rub together knew would work to solve the problem.

Arrest. Prosecute. Convict. Imprison.

It's not rocket surgery.

Posted by: Defenestratus at August 28, 2025 04:26 PM (WYStd)

217 To be stated as made in the USA, the following must be true:

“All or virtually all” means that the final assembly or processing of the product occurs in the United States, all significant processing that goes into the product occurs in the United States, and all or virtually all ingredients or components of the product are made and sourced in the United States. That is, the product should contain no — or negligible — foreign content.“

Posted by: Piper at August 28, 2025 04:26 PM (pZEOD)

218 >> Found a butcher shop four miles from work that sells 5lb blocks of beef tallow made in store for $10.99/lb.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 28, 2025 04:25 PM (V4yUe)

Nobody likes you very much. lol.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 28, 2025 04:26 PM (EaUHc)

219 What people have forgotten was that our elites just assumed that these sanctions would destroy Russia and they would not have to fight a war at all. They have been scrabbling about in a panic ever since, and Europe has been trying to get us into it on the ground to cover up the crap they were pulling there.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 28, 2025 04:25 PM (8avO+)

It's hilarious that it hurt Russia, but almost killed Europe. (Especially Germany)

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 28, 2025 04:27 PM (N1tpc)

220 I like Guac depending on who makes it. I don't like avocado slices.
Posted by: polynikes at August 28, 2025 04:22 PM (EYmYM)

I salt and pepper them when a blob is in a salad or something.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 28, 2025 04:28 PM (8avO+)

221
Kash's FBI isn't doing any of this pronoun shit.

Also, Bobby, Jr. says they're going to look into any pysch meds this thing was on.

What a change Trump 2.0 has made.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 28, 2025 04:28 PM (w6EFb)

222 RFK stirring up trouble.

TheBlaze@theblaze
HHS Secretary RFK Jr: “People have had guns in this country forever. There has never been a time in America when people walked into a crowd or a church and just started randomly shooting. We are the most over-medicated nation in the world.”

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Yeah? Well, who knows what would've happened if Jack the Ripper had had an AR-15?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur! at August 28, 2025 04:28 PM (L/fGl)

223 >>> 217 To be stated as made in the USA, the following must be true:

“All or virtually all” means that the final assembly or processing of the product occurs in the United States, all significant processing that goes into the product occurs in the United States, and all or virtually all ingredients or components of the product are made and sourced in the United States. That is, the product should contain no — or negligible — foreign content.“
Posted by: Piper at August 28, 2025 04:26 PM (pZEOD)

Aren't all of our CDL drivers (18 wheelers) supposed to be able to read English, too? ;P

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 28, 2025 04:28 PM (ULPxl)

224 Found a butcher shop four miles from work that sells 5lb blocks of beef tallow made in store for $10.99/lb.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 28, 2025

***
$55 at a crack for beef tallow is considered good???

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 28, 2025 04:28 PM (omVj0)

225 Okra is absolutely amazing.

Don't boil it (unless in a gumbo), but roast it- I'm sure at least some of you will change your mind. Either chopped and baked in an oven or skewered on a grill.

3/4 of my children absolutely love it. I'm so glad we have an Indian store nearby that has it fresh year round. (It grew VERY well back in Virginia. Not so for Michigan.)
Posted by: Formerly Virginian

Deep fried with a side of Ranch for dipping.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 28, 2025 04:29 PM (V4yUe)

226 $55 at a crack for beef tallow is considered good???
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

Online is up to $33/1.5 lbs.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 28, 2025 04:29 PM (V4yUe)

227 >>> Could somebody please just punch Jake Tapper where his dick used to be.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 28, 2025 04:25 PM (EaUHc)

Sir, this is violence.

Posted by: Allahpundit's dick shaped mouth at August 28, 2025 04:29 PM (cduTK)

228 >> Posted by: Piper at August 28, 2025 04:10 PM (p4NUW)

Maybe it’s regional but I can’t find the import. I actually wrote them and asked WTF puts corn syrup in beer. The whole thing about Peroni was the water and purity of the process. I’m done. It was on the table every weekend next to bottles of barolo and other Italian wines. Arrivederci.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 28, 2025 04:30 PM (EaUHc)

229 It's hilarious that it hurt Russia, but almost killed Europe. (Especially Germany)
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 28, 2025 04:27 PM (N1tpc)

The EU is the worst kind of parasite, both on its people and neighbors. Good parasites know not to kill the host. The EU has been dependent on Russia for a long time. Even now gas flows into Europe through Ukraine via uncut pipelines.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 28, 2025 04:30 PM (8avO+)

230 Shouldn't the shooter be identified as "dead" now.

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Just a clump of cells.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur! at August 28, 2025 04:30 PM (L/fGl)

231 $55 at a crack for beef tallow is considered good???
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

And they also sell it in one pound tubs, but I don't want to have to go back weekly.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 28, 2025 04:30 PM (V4yUe)

232 Newest wrinkle in the Lisa Cook story:

https://is.gd/6dK23c

"There might have been an error, but it was totally clerical."
-paraphrase

GA (where Cook signed one of the mortgages in question) is a state where the lawyer walks you through it all, page by page, signature by signature.

She gonna sue her real estate lawyer now? Or nah?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 04:30 PM (GBKbO)

233 Dems fall back to the same broken playbook. Gun control. That effin' whacko hated those kids and that school so much, he'd have worn a bomb vest while carrying a five gallon can filled with 92 octane gas.

Learned one fact today. Annunciation Church, like a lot of Catholic churches, has lock-after-Mass-starts policy. The Minneapolis police chief said that the locked doors saved countless lives. Kind of hard on late-comers, but we live in interesting times.

Posted by: mrp at August 28, 2025 04:31 PM (rj6Yv)

234 Homeless story is pretty much true.

Burned bldg we had was swarmed by Homeless. As we're were rebuilding they would return. Cop basically said: i can take them in. They'll be out in 3 hours.

Guess where they're coming back to and who they're pissed at? It ain't me he said.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at August 28, 2025 04:31 PM (JkCto)

235 The Clarkson's Farm twitter account tweeted a St George's flag today

Posted by: Oglebay at August 28, 2025 04:31 PM (2ap+5)

236 Yeah? Well, who knows what would've happened if Jack the Ripper had had an AR-15?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

He would have used the bayonet. He wasn't into noise.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 28, 2025 04:32 PM (V4yUe)

237
Can't cut rates. Wouldn't be prudent.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 28, 2025 04:32 PM (kkTda)

238 -
Yeah? Well, who knows what would've happened if Jack the Ripper had had an AR-15?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur! at August 28, 2025 04:28 PM (L/fGl)

Think old Jack preferred the personal touch.

Today's murderers are socialist and like treating people like statistics.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 28, 2025 04:32 PM (8avO+)

239
According to the Daily Mail, they haven't been able to find the tranny's mother yet. She's gone on the lam. That should tell us something.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 28, 2025 04:33 PM (w6EFb)

240 Last weekend I bought gas for 2.51 a gallon. But LaborDay Weekend and boom! 2.83 a gallon. And it's funny all the gas stations are at 2.83 a gallon. Somethings amiss here. The suits have struck again.

Posted by: Case at August 28, 2025 04:33 PM (iwlvf)

241 >> She gonna sue her real estate lawyer now? Or nah?

She doesn’t have a leg to stand on legally. That document also says you are responsible for all the statements and content. So you can say the dog did it, or even Sasquatch. But it won’t stand.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 28, 2025 04:33 PM (EaUHc)

242 And they also sell it in one pound tubs, but I don't want to have to go back weekly.
Posted by: rickb223

Could be a lunch option…

Posted by: Kratwurst at August 28, 2025 04:33 PM (QCu82)

243 Any updates about Taylor Swift's engagement?

Posted by: AoSHQ Celebrity News Bureau and Rumour Centre at August 28, 2025 04:33 PM (0sNs1)

244 191 Gas here has been just under $3.30 in se Pa for a few months
Posted by: Skip at August 28, 2025 04:22 PM (+qU29)
__________________________________

Not sure where you are in PA, but we're down at $2.79. It's been under $3.00 for at least the last month in this area.

Posted by: Orson at August 28, 2025 04:35 PM (dIske)

245 Deep fried with a side of Ranch for dipping.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 28, 2025 04:29 PM (V4yUe)

Don't even need the ranch

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 28, 2025 04:35 PM (N1tpc)

246 241 >> She gonna sue her real estate lawyer now? Or nah?

She doesn’t have a leg to stand on legally. That document also says you are responsible for all the statements and content. So you can say the dog did it, or even Sasquatch. But it won’t stand.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 28, 2025 04:33 PM (EaUHc)

=======

The whole thing is just hilarious.

Her complaint against her firing all but admitted she did it. Now she makes a statement that she did it.

So many Democrats are gonna be caught up in the mortgage fraud thing that the party plank in 2028 is going to include decriminalizing lying on mortgage applications.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 04:35 PM (GBKbO)

247 Last weekend I bought gas for 2.51 a gallon. But LaborDay Weekend and boom! 2.83 a gallon. And it's funny all the gas stations are at 2.83 a gallon. Somethings amiss here. The suits have struck again.
Posted by: Case at August 28, 2025 04:33 PM (iwlvf)

Like the swallows returning to San Juan Capistrano ...

Posted by: mrp at August 28, 2025 04:35 PM (rj6Yv)

248 Gas may be cheap but diesel is still stubbornly high.

Still paying $4/gallon for it up here in the north east.

Posted by: Defenestratus at August 28, 2025 04:35 PM (WYStd)

249 Yeah? Well, who knows what would've happened if Jack the Ripper had had an AR-15?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

He would have used the bayonet. He wasn't into noise.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 28, 2025 04:32 PM

Ahem. Embrace the power of and.

Posted by: Chainsaw Bayonet at August 28, 2025 04:35 PM (0sNs1)

250 Earlier today, I read some dolt from Texas A and M, an economist or somesuch, who was claiming that grocery prices are going to double.

Due to loss of illegals and tariffs.

Ahh, the midwit version of "who's gonna pick the crops?"

Posted by: Ian S. at August 28, 2025 04:35 PM (wItF4)

251 Any updates about Taylor Swift's engagement?
Posted by: AoSHQ Celebrity News Bureau and Rumour Centre at August 28, 2025 04:33 PM (0sNs1)

Her and Trav are stuck together like two dogs humping

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 28, 2025 04:36 PM (NtVYv)

252 250 Earlier today, I read some dolt from Texas A and M, an economist or somesuch, who was claiming that grocery prices are going to double.

Due to loss of illegals and tariffs.

Ahh, the midwit version of "who's gonna pick the crops?"
Posted by: Ian S. at August 28, 2025 04:35 PM (wItF4)

=======

What happens to the supply side of the curve when millions of people are deported?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 04:36 PM (GBKbO)

253 Marcus T most "Avocado Oil" is blended with seed oils.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at August 28, 2025 04:36 PM (wBaIH)

254 Dems fall back to the same broken playbook. Gun control. That effin' whacko hated those kids and that school so much, he'd have worn a bomb vest while carrying a five gallon can filled with 92 octane gas.

Learned one fact today. Annunciation Church, like a lot of Catholic churches, has lock-after-Mass-starts policy. The Minneapolis police chief said that the locked doors saved countless lives. Kind of hard on late-comers, but we live in interesting times.
Posted by: mrp at August 28, 2025 04:31 PM (rj6Yv)

I think like Russia Russia hatred the party is so calcified that they are just going back to old rallying cries out of habit. Lots of Dems were looking for guns during the Riots and after, and they aren't going to be giving them up all that easy.

The good folk will just have to start guarding themselves from the parking lot in.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 28, 2025 04:37 PM (8avO+)

255 Being serious, I love avocados.
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 28, 2025 04:23 PM

Hermano!

Posted by: Beto at August 28, 2025 04:37 PM (0sNs1)

256 Marcus T most "Avocado Oil" is blended with seed oils.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at August 28, 2025 04:36 PM (wBaIH)

Chosen Foods brand. 100 percent pure avocado oil. Good stuff.

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 28, 2025 04:38 PM (NtVYv)

257 What people have forgotten was that our elites just assumed that these sanctions would destroy Russia and they would not have to fight a war at all. They have been scrabbling about in a panic ever since, and Europe has been trying to get us into it on the ground to cover up the crap they were pulling there.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 28, 2025 04:25 PM (8avO+)

It's hilarious that it hurt Russia, but almost killed Europe. (Especially Germany)

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 28, 2025 04:27 PM (N1tpc)
==
Germany signed its own death being addicted to Russian Nat Gas.

Russia was always going to be able to feed themselves and keep the lights on. Economically it hasn't been very good. Their currency is even more worthless than it used to be and no one wants it. To be fair, their isn't big demand for first world goods once you get past cell phones. Especially in the industrial sector.

Posted by: Black JEM at August 28, 2025 04:38 PM (GZYu7)

258 Last weekend I bought gas for 2.51 a gallon. But LaborDay Weekend and boom! 2.83 a gallon. And it's funny all the gas stations are at 2.83 a gallon. Somethings amiss here. The suits have struck again.
Posted by: Case at August 28, 2025 04:33 PM (iwlvf)

Like the swallows returning to San Juan Capistrano ...
Posted by: mrp at August 28, 2025 04:35 PM (rj6Yv)

Don't they do stupid crap seasonally to the gas for ecological bullshit reasons?

Posted by: Oldcat at August 28, 2025 04:38 PM (8avO+)

259 239
According to the Daily Mail, they haven't been able to find the tranny's mother yet. She's gone on the lam. That should tell us something.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 28, 2025 04:33 PM (w6EFb)

Well...yesterday she answered the phone. The mystery father was said to be sitting on the sidewalk.

I'd go on the lam, too, if I supported this person either in support or with cash. Signing the ability to change it's name at age 16 was just the start.

Parents SHOULD be held accountable. Or, at the very least, investigated. It lived in an apartment. Who paid for the apt and possibly guns and ammo? Was it the cannabis job? Another girl supposedly lived with it (I say it vs pronoun). People in and out according to apt building people..."mental health" professionals who claim everyone in their 20's in MN is odd.

I was once in my 20's with a lot of 20yr old people and we were not odd. Crazy party people, you bet. But not odd and collecting guns and hate.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at August 28, 2025 04:38 PM (6PCLE)

260 How many "clerical errors" did she commit?? Bitch is a liar. And in denial.

Posted by: runner at August 28, 2025 04:38 PM (g47mK)

261 What happens to the supply side of the curve when millions of people are deported?

Right?

The entire media should be forced to read Thomas Sowell's "Basic Economics".

Posted by: Ian S. at August 28, 2025 04:39 PM (wItF4)

262 261 What happens to the supply side of the curve when millions of people are deported?

Right?

The entire media should be forced to read Thomas Sowell's "Basic Economics".
Posted by: Ian S. at August 28, 2025 04:39 PM (wItF4)

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And how many of these illegals do people really think are working the fields?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 04:40 PM (GBKbO)

263 Nood Melania

Posted by: CaliGirl at August 28, 2025 04:40 PM (77W69)

264
Her and Trav are stuck together like two dogs humping
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 28, 2025 04:36 PM (NtVYv)

__________

So his tumescent spear of manhood is locked in her nexus of femininity while they face in different directions? Man, natural breeding of dogs is an adventure.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 28, 2025 04:40 PM (kkTda)

265 What happens to the supply side of the curve when millions of people are deported?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 04:36 PM (GBKbO)

We're deporting people here illegally. Nothing precludes a policy of issuing work visas to those meeting US entry requirements and issuing said visas to meet US labor needs.

Posted by: mrp at August 28, 2025 04:41 PM (rj6Yv)

266 You are funny as well. And thanks for the name of Kathy Ireland. I would not have recalled that.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 28, 2025 04:25 PM (2GCMq)

I have this uncanny ability to recall every frame of the Sports Illustrated issue(s) she appeared in. It's a gift, really...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at August 28, 2025 04:42 PM (nbLIj)

267 265 We're deporting people here illegally. Nothing precludes a policy of issuing work visas to those meeting US entry requirements and issuing said visas to meet US labor needs.
Posted by: mrp at August 28, 2025 04:41 PM (rj6Yv)

=======

System already exists. Migrant worker visas are still a thing.

Cheap farmers just don't use it. They also don't modernize with equipment.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 04:42 PM (GBKbO)

268
Lisa Cook is an incompetent DEI hire. Her stellar academic economics career was just racialist social justice crap.

Her magnum opus was something about how lynchings resulted in fewer patent applications by those who were lynched.

Nobel Prize material, that.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 28, 2025 04:42 PM (w6EFb)

269 Germany signed its own death being addicted to Russian Nat Gas.

Russia was always going to be able to feed themselves and keep the lights on. Economically it hasn't been very good. Their currency is even more worthless than it used to be and no one wants it. To be fair, their isn't big demand for first world goods once you get past cell phones. Especially in the industrial sector.
Posted by: Black JEM at August 28, 2025 04:38 PM (GZYu7)

Trump warned them on the gas and oil dependencies. But ironically, Russia took no steps themselves to use this against Europe. The sanctions hiked the prices to fund the war, to cripple EU industries. The fertilizers and cheap food and raw materials Russia supplied rebounded on them massively when they cut them off. All self inflicted so the unelected EU masters can play politics.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 28, 2025 04:42 PM (8avO+)

270 The new cat has moved to birds. The most recent one was torn to pieces on the only remaining section of rug in the house.

It is not pretty.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 28, 2025 04:44 PM (rbvCR)

271 basically it is tree vomit

Posted by: n at August 28, 2025 04:21 PM (cxLh/)

Yummy, delicious tree vomit. Slices, too. Put them in salads, torilla soup, over lightly seared flank or skirt steak.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 28, 2025 04:44 PM (i24o9)

272 Fake Yapper is still depressed over the fact that he came so close to experiencing the taste of second-hand Clenis, but alas it was not fated to be..

(he apparently dated Monica Lewinsky at some point before Billy Jeff used her as a human humidor)

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 28, 2025 04:46 PM (qpyNK)

273 This just goes to show you how brainwashed the average person is by the media.

Maybe people will begin to wonder who benifts from all the crap that is going on.

This is totally frightening to me because I knew this before and I've had enough time to figure out the extent of it. I know I'm not unique in this aspect but lordy, lordy have the people been bamboozed!

Trump is just scratching the surface right now.

Elon already proved how much is really going on but I think even he didn't know how bad it was and backed out bececause the people were not reADY.

Posted by: pawn at August 28, 2025 04:46 PM (Tx/gC)

274 Trump warned them on the gas and oil dependencies. But ironically, Russia took no steps themselves to use this against Europe. The sanctions hiked the prices to fund the war, to cripple EU industries. The fertilizers and cheap food and raw materials Russia supplied rebounded on them massively when they cut them off. All self inflicted so the unelected EU masters can play politics.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 28, 2025 04:42 PM (8avO+)
==
And of course spent 18 months providing walk arounds (including Biden) on oil and gas and fuel exports from Russia because the west needed them. Lol! The only real sanction that could have bit Russia really hard, and they gave them a way to avoid it!

Posted by: Black JEM at August 28, 2025 04:46 PM (GZYu7)

275 Parents SHOULD be held accountable. Or, at the very least, investigated. It lived in an apartment. Who paid for the apt and possibly guns and ammo? Was it the cannabis job? Another girl supposedly lived with it (I say it vs pronoun). People in and out according to apt building people..."mental health" professionals who claim everyone in their 20's in MN is odd.

I was once in my 20's with a lot of 20yr old people and we were not odd. Crazy party people, you bet. But not odd and collecting guns and hate.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at August 28, 2025 04:38 PM (6PCLE)

Its an op. Easy to twist up someone who wants to be twisted, just add something to the cocktail.

I can't remember the psycho killers of the past getting surgery first almost universally. Now when they hide information about the perp the answer is Trans instead of Muslim in the US.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 28, 2025 04:47 PM (8avO+)

276 265 We're deporting people here illegally. Nothing precludes a policy of issuing work visas to those meeting US entry requirements and issuing said visas to meet US labor needs.
Posted by: mrp at August 28, 2025 04:41 PM (rj6Yv)

=======

System already exists. Migrant worker visas are still a thing.

Cheap farmers just don't use it. They also don't modernize with equipment.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 04:42 PM (GBKbO)

I know, but the Administration needs to state both parts of the policy when making announcements concerning deportations. 1) We're deporting people who are here illegally AND 2) We have programs in place to facilitate the entry of foreign workers who have met US entry requirements when the US economy needs a larger workforce.

Posted by: mrp at August 28, 2025 04:47 PM (rj6Yv)

277 4chan is suing the UK, and the text of the lawsuit is basically trolling Europe because the US has a tech industry and they made theirs go away.

Apparently Ron Coleman is responsible for the text.

https://x.com/tobi/status/1960792117770420278

Posted by: Ian S. at August 28, 2025 04:49 PM (wItF4)

278 And of course spent 18 months providing walk arounds (including Biden) on oil and gas and fuel exports from Russia because the west needed them. Lol! The only real sanction that could have bit Russia really hard, and they gave them a way to avoid it!
Posted by: Black JEM at August 28, 2025 04:46 PM (GZYu7)

Think most of them are still in place. And they still go through the motions of inventing new sanction packages in order to crush Russia. The 19th package will work for SURE.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 28, 2025 04:50 PM (8avO+)

279 I have a friend who worked for a local banking chain, years ago (before it got swallowed up by Wells Fargo).

Back then, if you bounced a check, you got fired. ing on your credit report? Fired. Financial impropriety of any kind? Fired. Till off? Fired.

The theory was that if you can't keep your own financial house in perfect order, there's no way you should be trusted with the finances of customers.

Nowadays that kind of thing apparently qualifies you to be on the Board of Governors for the Federal Reserve.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 28, 2025 04:51 PM (qpyNK)

280 Nowadays that kind of thing apparently qualifies you to be on the Board of Governors for the Federal Reserve.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 28, 2025 04:51 PM (qpyNK)

Concur.

Posted by: mrp at August 28, 2025 04:52 PM (rj6Yv)

281 The Brits need to see what is happening here. They are even more brainwashed.

The media over there could really start a lot of troble for TPTB buy playing up all these things that are happening here.

The Brits will start to wonder...well why not here?

If the US can shrug off the Deep State conditioning I don't think the EU will last very long because it seems the world is seriously ready for some serious Nationalism.

Posted by: pawn at August 28, 2025 04:53 PM (Tx/gC)

282 Immigration only helps a country if those immigrating take care of themselves and are good citizens….. that has not happened for nearly 60 years

Posted by: Bang-a-gong at August 28, 2025 05:01 PM (SRiFu)

283 My former best friend for life (RIP Barry) chased a bear out of his avacodo tree and the bear proptly shit himself.

He'd obviously been gorging on them for a while because Barry said it looked like a giant blob of guac had been dumped in his back yard.

He went and got his wife to show her and told her he was going to the kitchen to get a bowl because it was still good.

Posted by: pawn at August 28, 2025 05:06 PM (Tx/gC)

284 Democrat president: Markets were "surprisingly below estimates."

GOP President: Markets were "surprisingly above estimates"

No matter what, the results are always surprising to these people. They're all worthless.

Posted by: shenanigans at August 28, 2025 05:08 PM (8umef)

285 "sOme InFlaTiOn Is AkshuLLy gOOd fOR THe eCoNoMY!"

Posted by: Beefsteak McQueen at August 28, 2025 05:21 PM (ZsyvD)

286 Nood. Centered.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at August 28, 2025 05:37 PM (w9IYZ)

287 Interest rates don't affect inflation at all.

Like...at all.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 03:38 PM (GBKbO)

But interest rates and fed policies related to capitalization ratios affects money supply which does affect inflation.

Posted by: Lurking Cheshirecat at August 28, 2025 06:16 PM (w3u3d)

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