The Democrats Are Losing Voters All Over the Country as the GOP Steals Them Away

A new Insider Advantage poll finds Trump's approval surging -- except with the oldest voters.

Voters Not So Much
Posted on August 18, 2025
Survey conducted August 15-17; MOE 3.09%
What is your opinion of President Trump's Job Performance?
Approve: 54%
Disapprove: 44%
Undecided/ No Opinion: 2%
Analysis by InsiderAdvantage Pollster Matt Towery:
Donald Trump now has an advantage among every age group other than the most senior of voters. He has improved his numbers among African-Americans and Hispanic-Latinos. White voters are at a near record 64%. Voters under 65 years of age now approve of his job performance by wide margins. Only the nation's oldest voters disapprove of his job performance, which is consistent with our prior surveys. Overall, his approval numbers are surging upwards post-summit.

Meanwhile, the Democrats are losing voters by the millions:

Many blue states, like massive California, register voters by party while many red states, including Texas, do not, so the number of nationwide registered voters by party does not tell the full story. But in those 30 states with partisan voter registration, Democrats' eleven-point edge over Republicans on Election Day 2020 plummeted to just over six points in 2024, an alarming trend for Democrats.
"I don't want to say, 'The death cycle of the Democratic Party,' but there seems to be no end to this," Michael Pruser, director of data science for Decision Desk HQ, told the Times. "There is no silver lining or cavalry coming across the hill. This is month after month, year after year."
More trends paint a similarly dire picture for Democrats.
By 2024, the Republican party's share of new registered voters nationwide "had overtaken Democrats'," rising by nine points compared to 2018, the report details, while Democrats' fell by almost eight percent.
The shift from 2020 to 2024 was prevalent in the four swing states with partisan data available as well -- North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Arizona, and Nevada.
Identifying the problem is likely to be far easier than fixing it.
Due to the makeup of Trump's new Republican Party coalition, achieved through gains across multiple demographics, Democrats are unable to go back to the well of recruitment of racial minorities to reverse their downward trajectory. The Times report reads:

For years, the left has relied on a sprawling network of nonprofits -- which solicit donations from people whose identities they need not disclose -- to register Black, Latino and younger voters. Though the groups are technically nonpartisan, the underlying assumption has been that most new voters registering would vote Democratic.
Mr. Trump upended that calculation with the inroads he made with working-class nonwhite voters.

Shane Goldmacher of the NYT tells Democrats the bad news.

Shane Goldmacher
@ShaneGoldmacher
NEW at NYT: The Democratic Party is facing a voter registration crisis in red, blue and battleground states alike -- losing ground to the GOP everywhere.

My deep dive into the numbers and what it reveals about the party's brand.

30 states plus D.C. allow for partisan registration.
Between 2020 and 2024, Democrats lost 2.1 million voters in those states. GOP gained 2.4 million.
But those topline figures are just the start...

By percentage, Democrats went from nearly an 11-point edge over GOP in 2020 to just over a 6-point edge in 2024.
Along the way, some states have flipped to GOP registration edge entirely.
Florida, of course.
But more big ones are likely coming...
In Pennsylvania, the quintessential battleground, Democrats had registration advantage of 517,310 among active voters in November 2020.
As of this summer: Only 53,303 voters.

In North Carolina, Republicans erased roughly 95 percent of the registration advantage that Democrats held in the fall of 2020 by this summer.
The Dem edge is less than 17,000 -- down from nearly 400,000 in 2020.
Some have dismissed registration as a lagging indicator in the past.
But in 2024 it proved prescient: Democratic weakness was concentrated where Trump was strongest, among men and younger voters.

There are few better measurement's of a party's brand than who actively chooses to identify (and register) with it.
And fewer and fewer voters are choosing to become Democrats.
Check out this graphic of the trendline for new registrants since 2018.

We also have some takeaways on the findings.
This is perhaps the most stark one.

Posted by: Ace at 05:40 PM

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Posted by: Joe Kidd at August 20, 2025 05:43 PM (nbLIj)

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Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at August 20, 2025 05:44 PM (WvZaB)

3 Welcome!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 20, 2025 05:45 PM (0sNs1)

4 So, what?

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at August 20, 2025 05:45 PM (XQo4F)

5 Suck it, Dems. It's good to see people getting tired of your s**t.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at August 20, 2025 05:45 PM (zYpTz)

6 Top 10?!?

Posted by: Grayman27 at August 20, 2025 05:46 PM (pgwxJ)

7 Good...good

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at August 20, 2025 05:46 PM (xcxpd)

8 Who would’ve thought that listening to voters and doing what they want would be successful?

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 20, 2025 05:46 PM (Vh9CX)

9 Also, SPONGE!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at August 20, 2025 05:46 PM (xcxpd)

10 I called 'em...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at August 20, 2025 05:46 PM (nbLIj)

11 Oh, my : That's just terrible.

...anyway.

How's your afternoon going?

Posted by: garrett at August 20, 2025 05:46 PM (Z1dZR)

12 Note that the senior voters watch the most TV news.

Posted by: ... at August 20, 2025 05:46 PM (E0p3T)

13
Okay, I like it, but what's this about the probability that the Dems will retake the House in 2026 and the ascendance of the extremists (Mamdani, Fateh, AOC)? Seems like there's two conflicting trends here.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 20, 2025 05:47 PM (ny95y)

14 Hey obamie, the Lord will not be mocked. Maybe insulting the Donald was not such a great idea.

Posted by: twilight of the nimrod at August 20, 2025 05:47 PM (ehY6c)

15 Damn. Read the content.

Rookie mistake

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 20, 2025 05:48 PM (W2Pud)

16 I'm so old I remember when Ohio was a battleground state.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 20, 2025 05:48 PM (8avO+)

17 Who would’ve thought that listening to voters and doing what they want would be successful?
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 20, 2025 05:46 PM

Not us.

Posted by: GOPe at August 20, 2025 05:48 PM (0sNs1)

18 If President Trump can severely hit vote fraud then the Democrats will be through.

Posted by: Skip at August 20, 2025 05:48 PM (+qU29)

19 Yeah, but the Ds still have the dead vote. The voter rolls in all states need to be cleaned.

Posted by: Ann at August 20, 2025 05:49 PM (4neFu)

20 You have to have a platform to run on. And "we hate Trump" is not going to cut it.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 20, 2025 05:49 PM (kUxzU)

21 Yeah, yeah. The death of the D party has been trumpeted about for years. Why doesn't it die? Because their opponents are the Rs.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 20, 2025 05:49 PM (0eaVi)

22 > The Democratic Party is facing a voter registration crisis in red, blue and battleground states alike -- losing ground to the GOP everywhere.

That's because the Democratic Party has drifted too far to the right. The answer is to move hard left.

Posted by: Democrat Strategists at August 20, 2025 05:49 PM (lIio7)

23 Willowed:
yes got it backwards.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 20, 2025 05:37 PM (8avO+)

Oh. I thought you were testing me.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 20, 2025 05:49 PM (zZu0s)

24 Not to be a Debbie downer but this poll is an outlier. Bigly outlier. Trump at54% approval . Every other poll over the past month shows Trump under water. Some double digits under.

RCP average is -5 approval right now.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at August 20, 2025 05:50 PM (4HxCT)

25 What is the republican platform, minus trump? Let's not be too triumphalist here.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 20, 2025 05:50 PM (zZu0s)

26 A new Insider Advantage poll finds Trump's approval surging -- except with the oldest voters.

And what generation would that be ? Silents ? Or Boomers ?

Trump hit what ... well, I said it back around the Romney Wars. Nationalist Populist. First party there wins. Neither Party went there - but Trump did.

It turns out - for all of us that didn't live our entire lives in the Cold War ? We don't want to fight the Cold War forever. And after 9/11 ? We'd really not like to do all that shit that some still claim the Statue of Liberty Poem mandates we do.

Posted by: Call It Like It Is at August 20, 2025 05:51 PM (57Nk3)

27 >>Okay, I like it, but what's this about the probability that the Dems will retake the House in 2026 and the ascendance of the extremists (Mamdani, Fateh, AOC)? Seems like there's two conflicting trends here.

well, unfortunately, the voters Trump poached from the Democrats are largely unlikely voters, who only come out to vote for Trump. The voters the Democrats poached from us are uptight liberal cosmpolitan NeverTrumpers, who are more disciplined voters, probably because they're all on the Federal tit one way or the other.

Posted by: ace at August 20, 2025 05:51 PM (KRtlO)

28 ‘ new Insider Advantage poll finds Trump's approval surging -- except with the oldest voters.’

The people with the shortest future don’t care about the future of anyone else.
How appropriate.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 20, 2025 05:51 PM (a42Vf)

29 Good evening all.

Republicans didn't steal Dems as much as Dems actually drove them away. Democrats are now the party of rich oligarchs and the lap top class which has forgotten how to actually work for a paycheck.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 20, 2025 05:51 PM (t/2Uw)

30 Not to be a Debbie downer but this poll is an outlier. Bigly outlier. Trump at54% approval . Every other poll over the past month shows Trump under water. Some double digits under.

RCP average is -5 approval right now.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at August 20, 2025 05:50 PM (4HxCT)

Well, Miss Downer- may I call you Debbie?

Polls are for strippers.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 20, 2025 05:51 PM (zZu0s)

31 I'm wondering if the dem party ever had the votes in the last few elections. We know 2020 was the most corrupt election since Obama came on the scene.

Posted by: DanMan at August 20, 2025 05:51 PM (8uzBS)

32 You have to have a platform to run on. And "we hate Trump" is not going to cut it.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 20, 2025 05:49 PM (kUxzU)

Don't we know it.

Posted by: GOPe at August 20, 2025 05:51 PM (0eaVi)

33 Not certain it's the "tv news", but I honestly don't know why the skinny, older, seriously grey guys are so antiTrump. Is it envy?

Posted by: man at August 20, 2025 05:52 PM (tubbA)

34 What is the republican platform, minus trump? Let's not be too triumphalist here.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 20, 2025 05:50 PM (zZu0s)

Same as it is with him. He took over the controls of the machine under Biden.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 20, 2025 05:52 PM (8avO+)

35 And the libtards out here in Seattle-land are hanging in there. No way Seattle will ever turn purple. Our mayor and Governor and AG are in the news every day touting their latest hissy fit against PDT. And the media laps it up. It really is pathetic to see people openly rooting against America and Americans.

Local news headline for the last three days is about how Trump wants to get rid of mail in voting. Second is how tariffs are going to ruin the economy. Then the genocide in Gaza.

Whatever.

Sunset was fantastic last evening though. Absolutely gorgeous.

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 20, 2025 05:52 PM (W2Pud)

36 Okay, I like it, but what's this about the probability that the Dems will retake the House in 2026 and the ascendance of the extremists (Mamdani, Fateh, AOC)? Seems like there's two conflicting trends here.
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I think the only chance that the Dems retake the house is if they can steal their way into doing it. Mandami and AOC will be Dem locks just because the machine has so entrenched itself in those areas that there's no short-term way to remove the "fix". But Mandami and AOC aren't "the future" unless "the future" means all of the voting systems are permanently corrupted.

Posted by: Crusader at August 20, 2025 05:52 PM (TN0g+)

37 Dems are in big trouble. The Reaper is about to take them down a peg.

Millions of these old liberals will soon die from slip-and-falls in the walk in showers at their Margaritaville retirement homes* and then Dems will have to figure something out.

*This is a real thing, I'm utterly horrified to report.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 20, 2025 05:52 PM (NcsUG)

38 A LOT of registered democrats have changed to independent due to republican gerrymandering. It hinders MAGA efforts to dilute Dem votes when they can't track them!

That's a good possibility. My thoery is Dems in red states or districts have changed to Independent, but still vote Democratic. It's a safety thing and reduce potential harrasment. It's a different world at the moment. Ds are under attack.

I am not buying this. Mainly because of where it is coming from and who did the 'analysis'. No one should trust the NYT, and the agenda their rightwing corporate masters push. Nonsense about the 'Dems in Disarray' is exhausting.

The good part of this is in closed primaries - the true blue will have a greater voice than outsiders intent on 'bringing the revolution' faster.

I'd rather not hear about any of this. I am pretty sure those numbers in Florida are rigged too. Ain't no way a million people net gain to republicans. It isn't like that is reflecting in the actual election results.

I hope the denial we're seeing here is not reflective of the Democratic Party officials and elected leaders. If it is, we're in deep trouble.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at August 20, 2025 05:52 PM (ycI94)

39 >>Not certain it's the "tv news", but I honestly don't know why the skinny, older, seriously grey guys are so antiTrump. Is it envy?

They are married to AWFLs and Karens.

Posted by: garrett at August 20, 2025 05:53 PM (Z1dZR)

40 I'm wondering if the dem party ever had the votes in the last few elections"

Votes? No.
Counters? Si.

Posted by: man at August 20, 2025 05:53 PM (tubbA)

41 “You know, the house is on fire, we have to stop pretending like we don’t smell the smoke. It’s time for America to wake up and put our morals above our manners. Now is not the time to engage in trying to play patty-cake with a party that’s been captured by fascists and neo-Confederates.

There is no bipartisanship anymore with a party that is intent on maintaining minority rule between tech oligarchs, White supremacists, and Christian nationalists. They want a minority-run government, and they’re willing to do this at any means necessary. We must fight back. You know, I think that we will be judged not by what we do, but by what we don’t do, to future generations.”

-- Tennessee State Rep. Justin Pearson (D)

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 20, 2025 05:53 PM (0sNs1)

42 You have to have a platform to run on. And "we hate Trump" is not going to cut it.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 20, 2025 05:49 PM (kUxzU)

Don't we know it.
Posted by: GOPe at August 20, 2025 05:51 PM (0eaVi)

*golfclap*

Although properly that should be the NTers.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 20, 2025 05:53 PM (zZu0s)

43 Not certain it's the "tv news", but I honestly don't know why the skinny, older, seriously grey guys are so antiTrump. Is it envy?
Posted by: man at August 20, 2025 05:52 PM (tubbA)

Trump betrayed them by taking the side of the average guy, and flyover country. they thought he was on their side.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 20, 2025 05:53 PM (8avO+)

44 What is the republican platform, minus trump?
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This too is a problem. That's why the GOP has done so little to put the "wins" into law--they're too addicted to the grift that comes along with the status quo.

Posted by: Crusader at August 20, 2025 05:54 PM (TN0g+)

45 It’s hard to understand why the elderly don’t approve of President Trump

Posted by: Gonzotx at August 20, 2025 05:54 PM (nGraA)

46 >>Okay, I like it, but what's this about the probability that the Dems will retake the House in 2026 and the ascendance of the extremists (Mamdani, Fateh, AOC)? Seems like there's two conflicting trends here.

When have we not been told the Democrats will win? I'm so old I remember when we were told Harris was going to win.

The left has been taking some serious hits, losing USAID and the network of NGOs they fed and ActBlue is a lot bigger than is being reported. Illegals are being shown the door. Republicans are finally waking up and realizing they can gerrymander too.

And it sure as hell doesn't hurt that Trump and his agenda are very popular. No guarantee that we will win in 2026 but the idea that Democrats are ahead is just wishcasting.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 20, 2025 05:54 PM (viF8m)

47 Bulg, My Fair Lady has good songs, that can be sang well.
The rest of my criticism stands.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 20, 2025 05:55 PM (rbvCR)

48 Identifying the problem is likely to be far easier than fixing it.
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You have to WANT to fix the problem once you've identified it.

Dems are in constant denial that THEY ARE THE PROBLEM.

All of their policies are anathema to America and everything she stands for.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 20, 2025 05:55 PM (IBQGV)

49 There is no bipartisanship anymore with a party that is intent on maintaining minority rule between tech oligarchs, White supremacists, and Christian nationalists. They want a minority-run government, and they’re willing to do this at any means necessary. We must fight back. You know, I think that we will be judged not by what we do, but by what we don’t do, to future generations.”

-- Tennessee State Rep. Justin Pearson (D)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 20, 2025 05:53 PM (0sNs1)

That's not going to go well off the campus of University of Tennessee

Posted by: Oldcat at August 20, 2025 05:55 PM (8avO+)

50 When the NY transplant retirees start keeling over from late life monkeypox soon, FL will be redder than CA is blue.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 20, 2025 05:55 PM (NcsUG)

51 24 Not to be a Debbie downer but this poll is an outlier. Bigly outlier. Trump at54% approval . Every other poll over the past month shows Trump under water. Some double digits under.

RCP average is -5 approval right now.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald

Rasmussen has Trump's approval at 49-49.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at August 20, 2025 05:55 PM (ycI94)

52 A new Insider Advantage poll finds Trump's approval surging -- except with the oldest voters.

===

losers!

Posted by: runner at August 20, 2025 05:55 PM (g47mK)

53 My sense the Panic was clearly evident in 2019, the president was cruising towards an easy re-election bid. The genuine, paid-for polling revealed epic percentage gains with “minority” voters, women, college educated vagina-americans, everybody historically considered reliable Democrats.

That’s why they went to DefCon 1 and pulled out all the stops for electoral fraud turned to eleven. Mr. Trump did not turn tail and surrender, against all odds he persevered and came back to a stunning re-re-election.

What is more stunning? His initial election, defeating the entire array of deep state and foreign actors employed by the shadowy alphabet agencies, the corrupt fake news agencies? Or his incredible come back after having endured everything they could throw at him? Nothing in American political history even comes close.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 20, 2025 05:55 PM (IUcAj)

54 "I will go to my grave not understanding

how anyone could prefer an ignorant, incoherent, babbling idiot spouting gibberish, who is only out to enrich himself, over an intelligent and articulate woman who would've worked tirelessly to make their lives better.

It boggles the mind.

I know we live in a racist and sexist country but this is beyond the pale. it makes absolutely no sense."

-- DU Commenter

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 20, 2025 05:56 PM (0sNs1)

55 This is a real thing, I'm utterly horrified to report."

Si. Been there (Panama City).
A strange place, margaritaville latitude...

Posted by: man at August 20, 2025 05:56 PM (tubbA)

56 I sometimes feel like you are our resident hype man, Jack.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 20, 2025 05:56 PM (zZu0s)

57 My poll is, how you say, always trending upwards!

Posted by: The Paolo at August 20, 2025 05:56 PM (G5+As)

58 Garrett, great! My procedure is over.

Posted by: Bulg at August 20, 2025 05:56 PM (77rzZ)

59 Okay, I like it, but what's this about the probability that the Dems will retake the House in 2026 and the ascendance of the extremists (Mamdani, Fateh, AOC)? Seems like there's two conflicting trends here.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 20, 2025 05:47 PM (ny95y)

The pool of Democrat voters is evaporating.

The reasonable and non-lunatic are floating away and there is now a greater concentration of lunatics and commies now by volume, like a puddle of donkey piddle drying in the sun.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 20, 2025 05:56 PM (iJfKG)

60 >>When the NY transplant retirees start keeling over from late life monkeypox soon, FL will be redder than CA is blue.

It is cute that you think Death will alter their Voting Patterns.

Posted by: garrett at August 20, 2025 05:56 PM (Z1dZR)

61 The death of the Democrat Party was announced back in 1994. The Republicans fucked that up. It will do so again.

Posted by: toby928 at August 20, 2025 05:57 PM (jc0TO)

62 Garrett is correct

The Silent/Boomer Karen is something to behold

her husband should he still be around is a White Knight exrtraordinaire

ergo, Orange Man Bad. ORANGE MAN VERY BAD!

Posted by: Black Orchid at August 20, 2025 05:57 PM (Pv3Rg)

63 I live in Utah, and the state Democrat party is openly encouraging its voters to register as Republicans to vote in Republican primaries, because Democrats have so badly messed up that half the time the local elections are between the Republican and the Constitution party candidate.

So I know that declining Democrat party registered voters, at least in Utah, is by design.

Posted by: SimoHayek at August 20, 2025 05:57 PM (EWq0C)

64 "It’s hard to understand why the elderly don’t approve of President Trump
Posted by: Gonzotx"

Because he has torn down the masks and facades they have believed in all these years.

Posted by: fd at August 20, 2025 05:57 PM (vFG9F)

65 It’s hard to understand why the elderly don’t approve of President Trump
Posted by: Gonzotx at August 20, 2025 05:54 PM (nGraA)

They're the only people who still watch broadcast news and late night shows.

Their political views are a mishmash of Steven Colbert, David Muir, and pharma ads.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 20, 2025 05:57 PM (NcsUG)

66 It is cute that you think Death will alter their Voting Patterns.
Posted by: garrett at August 20, 2025 05:56 PM (Z1dZR)

Well, it is Florida, so maybe.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 20, 2025 05:58 PM (zZu0s)

67 "I will go to my grave not understanding

Truer words were never spoken.

Posted by: toby928 at August 20, 2025 05:58 PM (jc0TO)

68 why do people over 65 no like Trump ?

Posted by: runner at August 20, 2025 05:58 PM (g47mK)

69 Gentlemen...

Posted by: Winston Wolfe at August 20, 2025 05:58 PM (i0F8b)

70 ...over an intelligent and articulate woman who would've worked tirelessly to make their lives better...
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Is that how we're referring to talent-less prostitutes these days?

Posted by: Crusader at August 20, 2025 05:59 PM (TN0g+)

71 "I will go to my grave not understanding

how anyone could prefer an ignorant, incoherent, babbling idiot spouting gibberish, who is only out to enrich himself, over an intelligent and articulate woman who would've worked tirelessly to make their lives better.

It boggles the mind.

I know we live in a racist and sexist country but this is beyond the pale. it makes absolutely no sense."

-- DU Commenter
Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 20, 2025 05:56 PM (0sNs1)

It's a bad idea to claim that the people beating you like a drum are babbling idiots .... what does that make you?

Historians who claim their opponents are geniuses are a lot smarter.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 20, 2025 05:59 PM (8avO+)

72 Tennessee State Rep. Justin Pearson (D)

I am a Christian and I still don't understand what a "Christian Nationalist" is other than a bogey man term by leftists.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 20, 2025 05:59 PM (2GCMq)

73
Thanks to Trump, Republicans have BDE.

Someone ask me: What is BDE?

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 20, 2025 05:59 PM (AqX5F)

74 The should go BOLD, and change their name to the more honest "Communist Party". Or maybe the Gay Dictators Party.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 20, 2025 05:59 PM (vbXSk)

75 Posted by: GOPe at August 20, 2025 05:51 PM (0eaVi)

*golfclap*

Although properly that should be the NTers.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 20, 2025 05:53 PM (zZu0s)

Yeah. We're a team joined at the lips. Lips on Ds cocks, that is.

Posted by: GOPe and NT at August 20, 2025 05:59 PM (0eaVi)

76 47 Kindltot: It’s “sung.”
— Henry Higgins

Posted by: Bulg at August 20, 2025 05:59 PM (77rzZ)

77 Ok, I see, the TV got them, they watch Martha Raddatz.

Posted by: runner at August 20, 2025 05:59 PM (g47mK)

78 Everyone in my immediate Family with the exception of My Husband , are registered Independents and we all vote Republican

Posted by: It's me donna at August 20, 2025 05:59 PM (VE6XX)

79 ...over an intelligent and articulate woman who would've worked tirelessly to make their lives better...
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Is that how we're referring to talent-less prostitutes these days?
Posted by: Crusader at August 20, 2025 05:59 PM (TN0g+)

articulate?

Posted by: Oldcat at August 20, 2025 05:59 PM (8avO+)

80 It is Trump's fault the democrats are losing voters. If they ever figure that out they may start to regain voters. Let's hope they never figure out that the Trump hate is what is driving voters away from the democrats.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 20, 2025 06:00 PM (0N4FZ)

81 >>why do people over 65 no like Trump ?

It's mainly the retired, professional class.

All of the Blue Collar men over 65 love him. Even the Union stooges.

Posted by: garrett at August 20, 2025 06:00 PM (Z1dZR)

82 and pharma ads."

I'm fighting my a1c. Or skin issues...

Posted by: man at August 20, 2025 06:00 PM (tubbA)

83 I do not understand why the 29 age group clings to the Democrat party. As a member of that group, I have lived through Democrat disaster after Democrat disaster. LBJ, the peanut farmer, the Clintons, Obooboo, and lastly, but not leastly, good ol' Joe from Scranton. All unmitigated disasters. The only thing I can think of is unreasoning family worship of FDR and a lingering fondness for the Kennedy administration when anything seemed possible.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at August 20, 2025 06:00 PM (xurFy)

84 The death of the Democrat Party was announced back in 1994. The Republicans fucked that up. It will do so again.
Posted by: toby928 at August 20, 2025 05:57

Oh, the Party is going nowhere.

But if things keep going this way, they'll have to figure something out besides this ridiculous charade of representative government they've been hiding behind.

I expect them to go bananas soon. It's going to get real ugly.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 20, 2025 06:00 PM (NcsUG)

85 Someone ask me: What is BDE?
Posted by: Soothsayer at August 20, 2025 05:59 PM

Slightly smaller than large dick energy is a thing.

Posted by: toby928 at August 20, 2025 06:00 PM (jc0TO)

86 And Trump IS gauche and rough and profane. I personally do not give a fuck any more, but a lot of these people, my parents and aunt and uncle among them, still do not know what time it is.

Dad is so far right, but extremely high trust. So he took the van and one booster. Mom ONLY took the van to be able to go to Hawaii for their 50th (she is much lower trust than Dad.)

I try not to talk to my aunt and uncle about politics. I love them both.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 20, 2025 06:00 PM (zZu0s)

87 Tennessee State Rep. Justin Pearson (D)

I am a Christian and I still don't understand what a "Christian Nationalist" is other than a bogey man term by leftists.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 20, 2025 05:59 PM (2GCMq)

Christian AND Patriotic. Both are anathema to leftists.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 20, 2025 06:01 PM (8avO+)

88 "Someone ask me: What is BDE?
Posted by: Soothsayer"

Just something I like to say.

Posted by: Twiki at August 20, 2025 06:01 PM (vFG9F)

89 Someone ask me: What is BDE?
Posted by: Soothsayer at August 20, 2025 05:59 PM

Slightly smaller than large dick energy is a thing.
Posted by: toby928 at August 20, 2025 06:00 PM (jc0TO)

Lol.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 20, 2025 06:01 PM (zZu0s)

90 Bulg, My Fair Lady has good songs, that can be sang well.
The rest of my criticism stands.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 20, 2025 05:55 PM (rbvCR)

Not to mention how Audrey Hepburn looked.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 20, 2025 06:01 PM (0eaVi)

91 The visuals and graphs are nice, but Venn diagrams speak best to those of us with superior intelligence.

Posted by: Kamala Fan Club at August 20, 2025 06:01 PM (G5+As)

92 I am a Christian and I still don't understand what a "Christian Nationalist" is other than a bogey man term by leftists.

==

it's a dog whistle, like family values and diet coke

Posted by: runner at August 20, 2025 06:01 PM (g47mK)

93 and pharma ads."

I'm fighting my a1c. Or skin issues...
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We're fat, and we like to dance!

Posted by: Pharma ad people at August 20, 2025 06:01 PM (TN0g+)

94 It's mainly the retired, professional class"

Stumbling into Central Market mid morning...

Tons of 'em.

Posted by: man at August 20, 2025 06:01 PM (tubbA)

95 It’s hard to understand why the elderly don’t approve of President Trump

where is this coming from? who is reporting this? if it's typical media why the hell does anybody care? who the heck relies on mainstream media for information? I'm old and sure don't watch legacy media for information.

Posted by: DanMan at August 20, 2025 06:02 PM (8uzBS)

96 >>"It’s hard to understand why the elderly don’t approve of President Trump

Look where they get their news. Most older folks don't hang out on the internet. They get their news from traditional media sources.

I bet a large percentage of them still think Trump is Putin's bitch and J6 was the worst crime against "our democracy" since the great southern treachery.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 20, 2025 06:02 PM (viF8m)

97 What are Democrats offering besides Trump hate?

It's just a party now of mostly bitter wine aunts.

It is weird that the boomers now seem to be the Democrat base. Usually people get more conservative as they age.

Posted by: Leupold at August 20, 2025 06:02 PM (4pwAx)

98 COME ON, GUYS!!!! WE CAN SCREW THIS UP IF WE PUT OUR MINDS TO IT. IDEAS!?!

(hand goes up) "Umm...we could, well uh....we could eat people's pets."

BEEN DONE...ANYONE ELSE?

"OH OH....I could wear a dress and parade around like I'm ready for town and country."

LINDSEY...JUST SHUT UP. ANYONE HAVE A REAL IDEA?

Posted by: Republican National Committee at August 20, 2025 06:02 PM (dIske)

99 Glad to hear it Bulg.

Hopefully things went well for you.

Posted by: garrett at August 20, 2025 06:02 PM (Z1dZR)

100 holy sh....

an old school Battlestar reference?!!?

does anyone remember that terrifying dog thing?

Posted by: Black Orchid at August 20, 2025 06:02 PM (Pv3Rg)

101 Declarations of the death of the Democrat Party are premature.

Posted by: davidt at August 20, 2025 06:02 PM (i0F8b)

102 Eric Daugherty@ EricLDaugh

BREAKING: A student in Florida was nominated by his own teacher as "Most Likely to Become a Dictator" because he was a conservative, a parent just revealed.

The teacher allowed students to label him a "N@ziphile" because he was interested in WW2 history and ROTC.

They literally tried to give him a "certificate" for "Most Likely to Become a Dictator."

FIRE THE TEACHER. They can move to New York or California - get a job there.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at August 20, 2025 06:02 PM (TGPs7)

103 It is weird that the boomers now seem to be the Democrat base. Usually people get more conservative as they age.

but they did

but they're conserving the late 60s and 70s

Posted by: Black Orchid at August 20, 2025 06:02 PM (Pv3Rg)

104 The Democrats $120M plan to use lisping homosexuals to explain True Masculinity to young men is not likely to succeed in altering their voting pattern.

Posted by: toby928 at August 20, 2025 06:03 PM (jc0TO)

105 @102 harassment and bullying, civil rights violations, sue them into oblivion

Posted by: runner at August 20, 2025 06:03 PM (g47mK)

106 90 Audrie Hepburn was too thin, and had to be dubbed by Marnie Nixon.

Julie all the way for Eliza.

Posted by: Bulg at August 20, 2025 06:03 PM (77rzZ)

107 ***as the GOP Steals Them Away
---

As clowns like, Jasmine Crockett, Kajammie Brown Jackson, Hakeem Jeffries and Zorhan Mamdani run them stampeding for safety.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 20, 2025 06:03 PM (671IT)

108 BREAKING: A student in Florida was nominated by his own teacher as "Most Likely to Become a Dictator" because he was a conservative, a parent just revealed.

Heh. When I graduated HS I was voted most likely to do Federal Time.

Posted by: toby928 at August 20, 2025 06:04 PM (jc0TO)

109 Not to mention how Audrey Hepburn looked.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 20, 2025 06:01 PM (0eaVi)

She was a pretty gal. Thin, but a beautiful smile and eyes...

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 20, 2025 06:04 PM (zZu0s)

110 Truth or bullshit?

The Daily Sneed™@Tr00peRR
‘A group of Jewish tourists were filmed dismantling a landmark cross on a Welsh hillside and using the stones to create a giant Star of David in its place.’
- Daily Mail UK

https://is.gd/25nqyP

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fire Can Too Melt Steel! at August 20, 2025 06:04 PM (L/fGl)

111 Outside of the boomers and AWFLs, we're probably a solidly red country.

Posted by: Iasonas at August 20, 2025 06:04 PM (gUzGB)

112 The Democrats $120M plan to use lisping homosexuals to explain True Masculinity to young men is not likely to succeed in altering their voting pattern.
Posted by: toby928 at August 20, 2025 06:03 PM (jc0TO)

but can we convince them that it's the bomb and that they should do more of it ? *7 level chess!

Posted by: runner at August 20, 2025 06:04 PM (g47mK)

113 why do people over 65 no like Trump ?

Probably a few reasons.

1- Women tend to live longer than men, and tend to vote more Democrat.

2- More educated people tend to live longer, and vote more democrat (this correlates to wealth as well)

3- Older people may have grown up thinking decorum and civility were the norm, and Trump is an undignified outlier.

4- They may be worried about Medicare and Social Security, and know Dems will tax and spend whatever it takes to keep those programs afloat (or even expand them).

Posted by: Moron Analyst at August 20, 2025 06:04 PM (ycI94)

114 Louie Conn and Blaize Shiek

look it up

Posted by: rhennigantx at August 20, 2025 06:04 PM (gbOdA)

115 >>They literally tried to give him a "certificate" for "Most Likely to Become a Dictator."

I was 'Most Likely to replace David Letterman'...these things aren't guarantees.

Posted by: garrett at August 20, 2025 06:04 PM (Z1dZR)

116 Can you imagine the smell of a Margaritaville retirement home's game room after one of their Pirate Looks At Eighty key parties?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 20, 2025 06:05 PM (NcsUG)

117 And as far as “Pygmalion” goes: Wendy Hiller, hubba hubba.

Though Lynn Redgrave wasn’t bad.

Posted by: Bulg at August 20, 2025 06:05 PM (77rzZ)

118 It is Trump's fault the democrats are losing voters. If they ever figure that out they may start to regain voters. Let's hope they never figure out that the Trump hate is what is driving voters away from the democrats.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 20, 2025 06:00 PM (0N4FZ)

The Dems' momentum was halted when they chose liberalism over the 'solid south' and forced the South to consider which party was closer to their ideals. They aligned with the Midwest GOPers over the East Coast ones. And the East Coast GOPers started to slide the other way.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 20, 2025 06:05 PM (8avO+)

119 It is weird that the boomers now seem to be the Democrat base. Usually people get more conservative as they age.
Posted by: Leupold

I don't get it as I don't think that just watching the MFM is the complete answer. We had a very lame group in our town for the "No Kings" protest - young misfits with nose rings and 70+ year olds standing as a group protesting Trump.

Posted by: Cheri at August 20, 2025 06:06 PM (oiNtH)

120 The Daily Sneed™@Tr00peRR
‘A group of Jewish tourists were filmed dismantling a landmark cross on a Welsh hillside and using the stones to create a giant Star of David in its place.’
- Daily Mail UK

https://is.gd/25nqyP
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fire Can Too Melt Steel! at August 20, 2025 06:04 PM (L/fGl)

False flag. Do the 'Jewish' look swarthy and smell of goat ass?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 20, 2025 06:06 PM (zZu0s)

121 Word has it that it's Kid Rock.

Posted by: Minuteman at August 20, 2025 06:06 PM (47/pr)

122 Bullshit and put down the broad brush. I am close to the age of dirt and I support PDT. I am not alone either.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 20, 2025 06:06 PM (dxWFK)

123 I will go to my grave not understanding

Deal. Now?

Posted by: t-bird at August 20, 2025 06:06 PM (zy41W)

124 I predict the extremists will be popular in a few areas. It's like the idiots they vote for in Seattle.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 20, 2025 06:06 PM (kUxzU)

125 I think that we will be judged not by what we do, but by what we don’t do, to future generations
------

Sounds ominous.

Posted by: ... at August 20, 2025 06:07 PM (OKz9i)

126 122 Bullshit and put down the broad brush. I am close to the age of dirt and I support PDT. I am not alone either.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 20, 2025 06:06 PM (dxWFK)

me too...

Posted by: It's me donna at August 20, 2025 06:07 PM (VE6XX)

127 I see Idaho and Wyoming have girthy gains in the GOP rolls. Tumescent, even.

Posted by: Mikey Alpha Kilo at August 20, 2025 06:07 PM (0aYVJ)

128 Posted by: Moron Analyst at August 20, 2025 06:04 PM (ycI94)

5. Old white (D) have Big Govt pensions and willing to get out for cause.

6. Money (Fake crowds)

Posted by: rhennigantx at August 20, 2025 06:07 PM (gbOdA)

129 I am a Christian and I still don't understand what a "Christian Nationalist" is other than a bogey man term by leftists.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 20, 2025 05:59 PM (2GCMq)

one of the biggest drives in "big time behind the scene" politics comes from the fear that National allegiance was the thing that caused the last 2 world wars. This was caused both by "nationalism" or belief and support to one's own country or culture to the exclusion of others, and the second part because such isolationist attitude cuts off trade and that hampers the international organizations from making good profits.
If you remember the bromide that "no two countries who have McDonald's restaurants have ever been at war" you see the basic outline

Soros' Open Society, and the WEF have this as some of the basic theories they operate around.
Nationalism, and Christianity celebrate the power of the individual, one for basis of power, and the other as a basic element of faith for salvation and communion with God.

Grit in the smoothly functioning cogs of internationalism, both.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 20, 2025 06:07 PM (rbvCR)

130 "3- Older people may have grown up thinking decorum and civility were the norm, and Trump is an undignified outlier."

That's a lot of it. He's upset their view that the government is run by upstanding public servants.

Posted by: Twiki at August 20, 2025 06:07 PM (vFG9F)

131 New conspiracy theory. Extreme Hakeem Jeffries is a Republican double agent intended to make the Donks look bad.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fire Can Too Melt Steel! at August 20, 2025 06:07 PM (L/fGl)

132 True story, our Valedictorian and Salutatorian DID do Federal Time, for cocaine smuggling. Well, attempted smuggling.

They were not as smart as they thought they were.

Posted by: toby928 at August 20, 2025 06:08 PM (jc0TO)

133 Ot, wth is Nick Sortor? An influencer touching? I keep seeing his tweets linked everywhere.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 20, 2025 06:08 PM (zZu0s)

134 Colorado is droopy and sad, as expected. So glad we left that shit hole.

Posted by: Mikey Alpha Kilo at August 20, 2025 06:08 PM (0aYVJ)

135 116 Can you imagine the smell of a Margaritaville retirement home's game room after one of their Pirate Looks At Eighty key parties?
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 20, 2025 06:05 PM (NcsUG)

depends and despair

Posted by: rhennigantx at August 20, 2025 06:08 PM (gbOdA)

136 FIRE THE TEACHER. They can move to New York or California - get a job there.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at August 20, 2025 06:02 PM (TGPs7)

After their broken legs and arms have healed, right?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 20, 2025 06:08 PM (0eaVi)

137 why do people over 65 no like Trump ?

===

I think at least some of if it is they sit around and watch the news all day. Just constant propaganda being spoon fed.

Also, women in general just get bitter and nasty as they age.

It's like why are the ugliest women always liberal?

Posted by: Leupold at August 20, 2025 06:08 PM (4pwAx)

138 Declarations of the death of the Democrat Party are premature.
Posted by: davidt at August 20, 2025 06:02 PM

As Winston Wolfe drops in to remind us so cogently from time to time, WLNSSEODQY.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 20, 2025 06:08 PM (0sNs1)

139 I see a lot of false flag shite (starting with Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens types) and seeping into online forums , trying to stir trouble between Jews and Christians. Did you guys notice that ?

Posted by: runner at August 20, 2025 06:08 PM (g47mK)

140 holy sh....

an old school Battlestar reference?!!?

does anyone remember that terrifying dog thing?
Posted by: Black Orchid at August 20, 2025 06:02 PM (Pv3Rg)

Nah, that dickhead is my friend.

Posted by: Buck Rogers at August 20, 2025 06:09 PM (0eaVi)

141 Some of us though have been suspicious all along.

Posted by: fd at August 20, 2025 06:09 PM (vFG9F)

142 99 Thanks, Garrett. I had to forego the colonoscopy, because I was throwing up the laxative prep last night.

But we still did the endoscopy to find the reason for the puking.

Because it doesn’t make any sense checking out the colon if a lot of stuff can’t travel via the stomach to get to it.

Posted by: Bulg at August 20, 2025 06:09 PM (77rzZ)

143 Also, women in general just get bitter and nasty as they age.

They do?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 20, 2025 06:09 PM (2GCMq)

144 Word has it that it's Kid Rock.
Posted by: Minuteman at August 20, 2025 06:06 PM (47/pr)

And he's wearing a hat indoors.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 20, 2025 06:10 PM (8avO+)

145 Perhaps the lede is being buried. Trump appeals to younger people in ways the prissy fuddy duddy judgmental Democrats do not. Remember when Republicans were the party of stiffs and Democrats were young hip and cool? Trump single handedly reversed it.

Posted by: ... at August 20, 2025 06:10 PM (OKz9i)

146 Once the dirty old leftist greedhead democrat voting boomers die off they will at last have "changed the world" like they used to chant and sing back in their heyday while drinking a Coke.

By leaving it. Good riddance.

Posted by: Old Fart Boomer at August 20, 2025 06:10 PM (R/m4+)

147 So the cohort that screwed it up does not like the fix. Seems right.

Posted by: Sports Illustrated PR team at August 20, 2025 06:11 PM (s9EN2)

148 "And he's wearing a hat indoors.
Posted by: Oldcat "

These kids today.

Posted by: fd at August 20, 2025 06:11 PM (vFG9F)

149 "It’s hard to understand why the elderly don’t approve of President Trump

Look where they get their news. Most older folks don't hang out on the internet. They get their news from traditional media sources.

I bet a large percentage of them still think Trump is Putin's bitch and J6 was the worst crime against "our democracy" since the great southern treachery.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 20, 2025 06:02 PM

And don't forget that msdnc, nbc, abc and cnn are constantly shouting every day that Trump is going to take away their social security and medicare. My mother (86) and her sister (91) both believe that Trump is one signature away from destroying both social security and medicare because they watch that crap all day long. And they vote every single time.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 20, 2025 06:11 PM (0N4FZ)

150 Thanks, Garrett. I had to forego the colonoscopy, because I was throwing up the laxative prep last night.

But we still did the endoscopy to find the reason for the puking.

Because it doesn’t make any sense checking out the colon if a lot of stuff can’t travel via the stomach to get to it.
Posted by: Bulg at August 20, 2025 06:09 PM (77rzZ)

You have to orient the pill the right way, Bulg.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 20, 2025 06:11 PM (8avO+)

151 The attempt is to split MAGA. It's a domestic intelligence operation.

Posted by: ... at August 20, 2025 06:11 PM (OKz9i)

152 127 I see Idaho and Wyoming have girthy gains in the GOP rolls. Tumescent, even.
Posted by: Mikey Alpha Kilo

Girthy Gains ran on the Winston Cup Circuit mid-late 50s. Ol' #69.

Posted by: Blown Head Gasket at August 20, 2025 06:11 PM (G5+As)

153 Aw, no comments on this chestnut above? 😢

A LOT of registered democrats have changed to independent due to republican gerrymandering. It hinders MAGA efforts to dilute Dem votes when they can't track them!

I thought it was an amazing attempt to refrain unambiguously terrible news into something not just positive, but "resistive" against fascism. Nevermind that the stats are tracking changes over 4 years, and the gerrymandering scare is news from within the last 30 days. I haven't seen it elsewhere, so it's not new NPC talking points, and it's too dumb to be a trial balloon at DU. It's authentic ~~frontier~~ grassroots liberal gibberish, and it's adorable.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at August 20, 2025 06:11 PM (ycI94)

154 122 Bullshit and put down the broad brush. I am close to the age of dirt and I support PDT. I am not alone either.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 20, 2025 06:06 PM

Ditto

Posted by: Eromero at August 20, 2025 06:12 PM (jgmnb)

155 Speaking of Boomers, the generation that used to complain about the young 'uns being on their phones all the time...

If I go to the bar or the gym and see someone staring at their phone, these days it's usually a Boomer.

Posted by: Iasonas at August 20, 2025 06:12 PM (gUzGB)

156 I ride the crest of the boomer wave. Me and 99% of the people I hang with are considered right wing assholes. Maybe it's because Texas.

(DanMa'am is my political sherpa btw, for some reason she is seen as a total sweetie to the same people)

Posted by: DanMan at August 20, 2025 06:12 PM (8uzBS)

157 does anyone remember that terrifying dog thing?
Posted by: Black Orchid at August 20, 2025 06:02 PM (Pv3Rg)

They didn't call them dogs, the called them Daggits(sp?) Damn. I cannot remember the name of... Boxey!

And Jane Seymour (late 70s peak Jane seymour) was his mom.

Cannot remember the name of the robot 'daggit'.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 20, 2025 06:12 PM (zZu0s)

158 Fen, you haven’t aged. Therefore, you are not bitter and nasty. And I doubt you would ever become so.

Posted by: Bulg at August 20, 2025 06:12 PM (77rzZ)

159 Can't we all just get along?

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at August 20, 2025 06:13 PM (YlWIZ)

160 You know who else didn't age?

Posted by: ... at August 20, 2025 06:13 PM (OKz9i)

161 Also, women in general just get bitter and nasty as they age.

They do?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

The polls are how we know what to think. ...according to the polls.

Posted by: t-bird at August 20, 2025 06:13 PM (zy41W)

162 A LOT of registered democrats have changed to independent due to republican gerrymandering. It hinders MAGA efforts to dilute Dem votes when they can't track them!

I changed to Independent in 2020 because I was pissed at the Republican party

Posted by: It's me donna at August 20, 2025 06:13 PM (VE6XX)

163 143 Also, women in general just get bitter and nasty as they age.

They do?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

What? We haven't changed our attitudes at all!

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, The entire cast of The View at August 20, 2025 06:13 PM (ycI94)

164 I see a lot of false flag shite (starting with Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens types) and seeping into online forums , trying to stir trouble between Jews and Christians. Did you guys notice that ?
Posted by: runner at August 20, 2025 06:08 PM (g47mK)

Its a very old story, like 2000 years old. We made these people, we can unmake them too.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 20, 2025 06:13 PM (8avO+)

165 One of the things that is happening in NY is that the Dems are losing people to the Dem Socialists or the Working Families Party. The Dems still have a super majority in the state legislature, but the crazy left is pushing the old timer Dems out

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 20, 2025 06:13 PM (so5nu)

166
You know, the house is on fire, we have to stop pretending like we don’t smell the smoke.

If you smell the smoke
You don't need to be told
What you got to do

Yet, there's a certain breed
So very in between
They'd rather take a vote

Running short on time
Still, they can't decide
But we already know
That we are here to go

Posted by: DEVO at August 20, 2025 06:13 PM (63Dwl)

167 You know who else didn't age?

==

Tutankhamen . Looks good for his age!

Posted by: runner at August 20, 2025 06:14 PM (g47mK)

168 My parents are not worried about their SS because they don't need it but the still call PDT "The Orange Menace".

I think the lies they told about Trump and the military had a big effect on my dad. The thing about "suckers and losers" stuck no matter what evidence was presented later.

Posted by: fd at August 20, 2025 06:14 PM (vFG9F)

169 Can't we all just get along?
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at August 20, 2025 06:13 PM (YlWIZ)

Get along with you, then.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 20, 2025 06:14 PM (rbvCR)

170 It's beyond basic polling. I've been harping about Turnout Turnout Turnout since March 2016 when Ace banned me for saying that Trump would win with 300 EVs. He's given our working class a voice that will boost their Turnout. White Non-college are 35% of the electorate. They're being joined by many Hispanics and some Black men. They had been disenfranchised by a D party that abandoned them. The GOPe abhor them.
Young men should also factor.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 20, 2025 06:14 PM (dtajH)

171 does anyone remember that terrifying dog thing?
Posted by: Black Orchid at August 20, 2025 06:02 PM (Pv3Rg)

I used to have the action figure of the little Battlestar dog. It went from apartment to apartment in that last box of crap you pack. What was it's name? Boxie or something like that?

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at August 20, 2025 06:14 PM (pIfcn)

172 This only means one thing. Now Republicans will royally screw us once Trump is done. It happened after Reagan. It will happen again. They will start to drift into Susan Collins mushed brain, where nary a pathos plea, tranny, illegal alien, welfare case or government handout won’t be refused, for the children.

It’s one thing to gain power. Completely another to keep it. I’m hopeful, but not optimistic. Let’s see what happens when Congress returns and finally gets off their asses.

Posted by: Vengeance at August 20, 2025 06:15 PM (hzUuR)

173 Curious that FL has lots of retired old people, yet is a red state. Maybe this is less about old people in general and more about regions that remain hard core Dem.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 20, 2025 06:15 PM (kUxzU)

174 Posted by: Bulg at August 20, 2025 06:12 PM (77rzZ)

Hey, thanks. I'll pay you the $ 10.00 later. 😉

And I'm sorry you are throwing up, I hope the doctors can figure out what's going on and take care of it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 20, 2025 06:15 PM (2GCMq)

175 Tutankhamen . Looks good for his age!
Posted by: runner at August 20, 2025 06:14 PM (g47mK)

But he had mummy issues.

Posted by: ... at August 20, 2025 06:15 PM (OKz9i)

176 You know who else didn't age?
Posted by: ... at August 20, 2025 06:13 PM (OKz9i)

Dorian Grey

Posted by: Kindltot at August 20, 2025 06:15 PM (rbvCR)

177 Also, women in general just get bitter and nasty as they age.

They do?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

The ones that did listen to the sensible ones when they were young aren't.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 20, 2025 06:15 PM (8avO+)

178 I still don't understand what a "Christian Nationalist"
——-

You are a Nazi. Any questions?

It’s passive aggressive, the queering of language. For example, one might be black. And nationalist.

That makes him a “Black Nationalist” right? Except, a Black Nationalist is ordinarily held to be one who wants a black only homeland within the boundaries of the USA.

Same with “Christian Nationalist”. You are a Christian. You are a Nationalist. Nothing wrong per se with with either, nor in combination.

The “real” meaning (for them) is “You Are A Nazi”

Posted by: Common Tater at August 20, 2025 06:16 PM (IUcAj)

179 Nope, We are nowhere near tired of WINNING yet!

Posted by: Tracy at August 20, 2025 06:16 PM (oQXo+)

180 "45 It’s hard to understand why the elderly don’t approve of President Trump"
**********
Who's doing that polling? And where? I'm elderly and all the elderly I know around here are all in for Trump since 2016.

Posted by: Cosda at August 20, 2025 06:16 PM (wamAH)

181 I have seen this trend with my wife's family. The older ones were moderate Republicans and they became more and more hardcore Democrat.

It doesn't to have anything to do with SS or Medicare in their case, just "this isn't who we are!" hand wringing.

I'm fine them leaving the GOP and don't let the door hit you on your way out.

They really are every bad stereotype of Boomers (no offense to the wonderful boomers here)

Posted by: Leupold at August 20, 2025 06:16 PM (4pwAx)

182 > One of the things that is happening in NY is that the Dems are losing people to the Dem Socialists or the Working Families Party. The Dems still have a super majority in the state legislature, but the crazy left is pushing the old timer Dems out
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I think it's also happening to the national Democrat party. They don't have a majority.... yet, but they're working in that direction.

The GOP's going through a similar "transformation." Perhaps without the violence common in leftist circles.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 20, 2025 06:16 PM (Q4IgG)

183 I'm sure that Lindsay Graham will introduce a bill to ban abortion nationwide next September.

Posted by: toby928 at August 20, 2025 06:17 PM (jc0TO)

184 What was it's name? Boxie or something like that?
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at August 20, 2025 06:14 PM (pIfcn)
Wasn’t Boxie an early ewetewb influencer?

Posted by: Eromero at August 20, 2025 06:17 PM (jgmnb)

185 This only means one thing. Now Republicans will royally screw us once Trump is done. It happened after Reagan. It will happen again. They will start to drift into Susan Collins mushed brain, where nary a pathos plea, tranny, illegal alien, welfare case or government handout won’t be refused, for the children.

It’s one thing to gain power. Completely another to keep it. I’m hopeful, but not optimistic. Let’s see what happens when Congress returns and finally gets off their asses.
Posted by: Vengeance at August 20, 2025 06:15 PM (hzUuR)

sure thing bucko.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 20, 2025 06:17 PM (8avO+)

186 Can't we all just get along?
Posted by: Hokey Pokey

Give me all your stuff!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fire Can Too Melt Steel! at August 20, 2025 06:17 PM (L/fGl)

187
why do people over 65 no like Trump ?

Because they're the ones answering the phone -- losers with nothing better to do.

Normal People NEVER get polled. Why?
Because they work, or they have hobbies, or they have ANYTHING better to do than be available at Noon to talk some random fuckface on the phone for some stupid poll.

People who watch Jerry Springer and The View are the typical respondents to all these Polls.

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 20, 2025 06:17 PM (AqX5F)

188 Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 20, 2025 06:15 PM (kUxzU)

One of the many reasons I love FL is that the mere mention of the name of the state to a leftist oftentimes is like showing a cross to a vampire.

I was on a date a few months ago and the young lady chastised me for wanting to move to FL because "there are Trump supporters there."

The combination of the politics, culture, and weather keeps a lot of leftists out.

Posted by: Iasonas at August 20, 2025 06:17 PM (gUzGB)

189 A lot of old union people think the Dems are still the Party of JFK.

Posted by: davidt at August 20, 2025 06:17 PM (i0F8b)

190 Keep in mind that a lot of the Boomers (which starts about 1946) came of age right smack dab in the middle of the 60's.

Effin Hippies!!!!

Posted by: Republican National Committee at August 20, 2025 06:18 PM (dIske)

191 the du quotes are funny, but it's cute how so many will believe anything in legacy media that supports their prejudices.
I'm'a wait for a non-boomer-hate thread to come along.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 20, 2025 06:18 PM (ppG5b)

192 Agenda Free TV, live coverage of the TX redistricting.
Some Dem woman is quizzing a Rep representative, and is is getting heated.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 20, 2025 06:18 PM (ufFY8)

193 And the libtards out here in Seattle-land are hanging in there. No way Seattle will ever turn purple.

Listen to her. Nurse. Now, understand - she'll cuss anyone that ever suggests she leave.

But she gets it. Until they suffer - they'll never change. And be very damn smug about it.

Now - scoop up a bunch from Seattle and drop them in Pittsburgh or Detroit or Atlanta or wherever ? They'll be cut into prime cuts and wrapped in butcher paper.

Posted by: Call It Like It Is at August 20, 2025 06:18 PM (57Nk3)

194 Oh, and a lot of Canadian Boomer Leftists are leaving FL because Orange Man Bad.

Faster, please.

Posted by: Iasonas at August 20, 2025 06:18 PM (gUzGB)

195 What was it's name? Boxie or something like that?
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at August 20, 2025 06:14 PM (pIfcn)
Wasn’t Boxie an early ewetewb influencer?
Posted by: Eromero at August 20, 2025 06:17 PM (jgmnb)

think it had two X in it. Boxxy.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 20, 2025 06:18 PM (8avO+)

196 >> One of the things that is happening in NY is that the Dems are losing people to the Dem Socialists or the Working Families Party. The Dems still have a super majority in the state legislature, but the crazy left is pushing the old timer Dems out

NU is run by a few far left billionaires who donate most of the Democrats money. The governor and legislative leaders are just pawns. The unions and people who get handouts are key to the voter fraud that keeps Dems in power. They are losing a lot of federal money and people are leaving in droves. It’s become the land of empty strip malls and growing crime. The whole thing is gonna burn down and it’s a shame.

Posted by: Vengeance at August 20, 2025 06:19 PM (hzUuR)

197 Posted by: Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, The entire cast of The View at August 20, 2025 06:13 PM (ycI94

I really don't know any women-including Democrat voters -who are like Pelosi or Clinton. For one thing they're not as wealthy or power hungry as either of them and for another , the ones I know are genuinely religious and people of prayer.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 20, 2025 06:19 PM (2GCMq)

198 We should probably not start S'ing each others' D's just yet, but we should maybe hold out a sliver of hope that a solid 15 years of the Democrats going full balls-out insane in their support of trannies, killing babies, and literal Full Red commie bullshit, that the American people are figuring out that they are both evil and full of shit.

Posted by: ballistic at August 20, 2025 06:19 PM (3BwY8)

199 192 Agenda Free TV, live coverage of the TX redistricting.
Some Dem woman is quizzing a Rep representative, and is is getting heated.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 20, 2025 06:18 PM (ufFY

Once this is passed is a Hawaiian judge gonna stop it ?

Posted by: It's me donna at August 20, 2025 06:19 PM (VE6XX)

200 I changed to Independent in 2020 because I was pissed at the Republican party
Posted by: It's me donna

It seems so long ago now, but I think I did in 2012 after Romney embarrassed me. Or maybe I was embarrassed that I sold out, debasing myself and voting for him, and I got nothing in return.

The Dems did piss off a lot of their voters with Palestine, and far Lefties are outraged that the mainstream party still isn't backing Mamdani in NYC. When I hear Kyle Kulinski bitching that the Dem Party always pressures them to back their moderate mainstream Establishment primary winner no matter what, but they suddenly balk at supporting a true outsider that wins the primary?...

Yeah, I feel that...

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at August 20, 2025 06:19 PM (ycI94)

201 They do?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

Yes. You do.

Posted by: Call It Like It Is at August 20, 2025 06:19 PM (57Nk3)

202 If past results are indicative of the future, Trump doesn't pull GOP candidates along with him, and now we're talking about elections where Trump isn't even on the ballot, except as a piñata for the Leftist candidates.

Not to be a doomer, but more Republican voters in an already red state doesn't mean wins in a blue state, or where states are dominated by urban centers, which are Leftist bastions. Maybe I'm biased from watching my state of Virginia about to go Left. Again.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at August 20, 2025 06:20 PM (MZ+PY)

203 Yea but, In California the persons who fought in the Civil War, Spanish American War and Mexican American War that reside in California are 100% behind Governor Newsome.

Posted by: Jackson at August 20, 2025 06:20 PM (q/j2W)

204
Ever watch your Local Fake News and notice EVERY SINGLE "witness" to some event is some pink-haired fatso with tattoos and nose piercings?? Or some old bag??

Why is that?

Because those are the only people around Doing Nothing in the middle of the day when the Fake News crews show up to do a story. Them and miserable retirees who stare out their windows all day and watch Fake News and hate Republicans.

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 20, 2025 06:20 PM (AqX5F)

205 White Non-college are 35% of the electorate.
——-

Have you ever heard our betters mention “Black Non-College” in their tribalist divide and conquer breakdowns?

We’ll hear “left-handed Lesbians confined to a wheelchair who live on the even side of the street”, though never that. Weird, huh?

Posted by: Common Tater at August 20, 2025 06:20 PM (IUcAj)

206 I'm old. Gimme gimme gimme!

Posted by: Abraham Simpson at August 20, 2025 06:20 PM (4NDqP)

207 My Mother's people all revered FDR for saving them from starvation in the Great Depression, but never voted for a Democrat after 1953.

Posted by: toby928 at August 20, 2025 06:20 PM (jc0TO)

208 More GOP voters in an already Red State means we can more easily protect Senate and House majorities.

Posted by: Iasonas at August 20, 2025 06:20 PM (gUzGB)

209 oops, 1951.

Posted by: toby928 at August 20, 2025 06:21 PM (jc0TO)

210 "...in butcher paper." Oldy but a goody. I only really know it from "Cinderella Man", Max Baer line.

Posted by: Sports Illustrated PR team at August 20, 2025 06:21 PM (s9EN2)

211 The GOP's going through a similar "transformation." Perhaps without the violence common in leftist circles.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 20, 2025 06:16 PM (Q4IgG)

I think Ace's thrashing of Jonah and the boaters counts as violence.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 20, 2025 06:21 PM (8avO+)

212 Looks like they are about to start singing and a Sharks v Jets dance number will start.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 20, 2025 06:21 PM (ufFY8)

213 Posted by: Call It Like It Is at August 20, 2025 06:19 PM (57Nk3)

Sure thing, bubbles. LOLl

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 20, 2025 06:21 PM (2GCMq)

214 We should probably not start S'ing each others' D's just yet...

But we can keep sucking our own, right?

Posted by: Marilyn Manson at August 20, 2025 06:21 PM (ycI94)

215 Have you ever heard our betters mention “Black Non-College-not in prison” in their tribalist divide and conquer breakdowns?

Posted by: toby928 at August 20, 2025 06:22 PM (jc0TO)

216 Voting now.
88-55, passed.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 20, 2025 06:22 PM (ufFY8)

217 Posted by: Vengeance at August 20, 2025 06:15 PM (hzUuR)

______________________________

Hahaha did you learn nothing? MAGA will be ours. You had your little Tea Party. Remember that? Well, we sent our grifters and operatives in, and then that Tea Party was ours.

We'll co-opt MAGA as well. Just takes a little time and some Chinese cash. You'll see.

Posted by: Republican National Committee at August 20, 2025 06:22 PM (dIske)

218 imagine the smell of a Margaritaville retirement home"

Visited older friend there...scary place.

Posted by: man at August 20, 2025 06:22 PM (tubbA)

219 Why are the oldest voters not changing to the Trump train? Is it that those are the "protest generation" of the Sixties and they are set in their ways? I'm part of that group, and I went from politically uninvolved to R in the space of a few years around 2000.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 20, 2025 06:22 PM (omVj0)

220 Also all those over 120 y/o and collecting Social Security also back the Democrats 110 %....

Posted by: Jackson at August 20, 2025 06:22 PM (q/j2W)

221 43 Not certain it's the "tv news", but I honestly don't know why the skinny, older, seriously grey guys are so antiTrump. Is it envy?
Posted by: man at August 20, 2025 05:52 PM (tubbA)

Trump betrayed them by taking the side of the average guy, and flyover country. they thought he was on their side.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 20, 2025 05:53 PM (8avO+)

I think about this fairly often, especially for older Republican voters with TDS. I think at least a couple of things are going on. One is the near-worshipful attitude and beliefs they've had their entire lives about the government and other American institutions. PDT has laid bare the rot and it's freaking them out. They were happy to keep that nice shiny veneer in place, and are angry at the man who pulled it back. Shooting the messenger.

Two is that PDT is showing what a bunch of softcocks run the GOP. The Republicans have been running for decades on the very things PDT has delivered on in a few short years, all the while making excuses why they haven't. They're the WNBA and he's Caitlin Clark. Nobody likes it when their boys get shown up, and that's happened here bigly.

Posted by: PDT keeps dunking while GOP dribbles at August 20, 2025 06:22 PM (TbWk/)

222 Time for a new exhibit in the Whig Museum of Failed Political Parties, between the Bull Moose wing and the Peace & Freedom display.

Posted by: zombie at August 20, 2025 06:22 PM (pMi6S)

223 207 My Mother's people all revered FDR for saving them from starvation in the Great Depression, but never voted for a Democrat after 1953.
Posted by: toby928 at August 20, 2025 06:20 PM
That scam worked so well LBJ expanded on it.

Posted by: Eromero at August 20, 2025 06:23 PM (jgmnb)

224 I think they adjourned for four minutes.
The doors are locked, LOL.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 20, 2025 06:23 PM (ufFY8)

225 208 More GOP voters in an already Red State means we can more easily protect Senate and House majorities.
Posted by: Iasonas

Yeah, and we'll get more staunch conservatives from deep red states, like McConnell, Graham, Ernst, Crenshaw...

Posted by: No One Ever at August 20, 2025 06:23 PM (ycI94)

226 The Dem party has ridden identity politics like Secretariat for the last two decades, and it led them to the conclusion that was obvious to everyone except them, apparently.

They're now a hollowed-out husk of a viable political party and the only retards standing around wearing its skin-suit are a motley group of AWFLs, incels, faggots, and a few power-hungry assholes grifting off the whole thing. It's a dumpster fire of stupid.

They have nobody that can run and win at this point. Greasy Gavin is unelectable. Stretchin Gretchen is a non-starter. They can't run Shapiro because the Dems hate Jews now. 2028's dem primary will be a bunch of people trying to lose on purpose so they don't have to be the one to get smoked like a doobie at Woodstock by JD Vance.

It is to laugh.

Posted by: ballistic at August 20, 2025 06:23 PM (3BwY8)

227 balls-out insane in their support of trannies"

Arrgh.

Posted by: man at August 20, 2025 06:24 PM (tubbA)

228 I think Ace's thrashing of Jonah and the boaters counts as violence.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 20, 2025 06:21 PM (8avO+)

Ace thrashed boaters??!! I mean, they're not too little, but I think a boater is a very festive summer hat!

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 20, 2025 06:24 PM (0eaVi)

229 The thousand pound Gorilla in the room though, is that combined Repub and Dem registered voters, is just a tad over HALF of the Electorate.

Yes, almost half of the voters don't think either party is worth belonging to, yet they still control every government we have here in the States.

And the total number of those who belong to one of said parties? Declining... once we hit 50%... one someone finally realizes a MAJORITY of Voters don't feel EITHER party represents them?

Well... it took about 4 years for the Whigs to cease to exist, and be replaced, and that was with 1850's Tech...

Although, the two partys are now more LEGALLY entrenched in power than back then.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 20, 2025 06:24 PM (mP0Kj)

230 "They're the WNBA and he's Caitlin Clark."

Frigg'n ouch. So very accurate. Nice one.

Posted by: Sports Illustrated PR team at August 20, 2025 06:25 PM (s9EN2)

231 White Non-college are 35% of the electorate.

Used to call them Blue Collar. Back when people gave a damn about that kind of thing.

That piece of the electorate isn't stupid. They can do math. And apply it to a trade.

I'd rather be around a Blue Collar Pipe-Fitter than a Masters Math Major. The Pipe-Fitter can do something real.

Posted by: Call It Like It Is at August 20, 2025 06:25 PM (57Nk3)

232 Vance/DeSantis'28: No Prisoners!

Posted by: toby928 at August 20, 2025 06:25 PM (jc0TO)

233 I'm sure just a few more tweets by that idiot Newsom's 'team of professionals' will reverse this tide by catering to 'normie libs'.

Posted by: DudeAbiding at August 20, 2025 06:25 PM (AjL/0)

234 TX adjourned their legislative day and will start another, I believe.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 20, 2025 06:25 PM (ufFY8)

235 221, agreed. I still don't quite understand fully, tho

Posted by: man at August 20, 2025 06:25 PM (tubbA)

236
All we are saying, is give crime a chance.
All we are saying, is give crime a chance.

Posted by: DC Dems at August 20, 2025 06:26 PM (krQz2)

237 227 balls-out insane in their support of trannies"

Arrgh.
Posted by: man at August 20, 2025 06:24 PM (tubbA)

More like balls-off

Posted by: The real chopped man epidemic at August 20, 2025 06:26 PM (TbWk/)

238 The teacher voting a conservative a dictator is definitely a Communist

Posted by: Skip at August 20, 2025 06:26 PM (+qU29)

239 JD Vance.

It is to laugh.
Posted by: ballistic at August 20, 2025 06:23 PM (3BwY

Magnificent son of a bitch. I read his book.

Seriously, JD Vance continues to impress me. He is sharp, witty, quick on his feet, and has a beard.

Posted by: Mikey Alpha Kilo at August 20, 2025 06:26 PM (0aYVJ)

240 NY is nothing but a bunch of bought and paid for politicians propped up by a small cadre of rich donors. The AWFL’s love it as do the unions who get paid off to keep the ball rolling until it doesnt. They have the dirtiest electoral process in the country. Even California is envious. I really don’t see how they sustain it. They’re running out of budget magic and people to steal from. Energy prices have tripled in some places and that may force a whole lot of people outside NYC in the other direction. But they are on my short list of states that will completely collapse.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 20, 2025 06:27 PM (GvHI2)

241 72 Tennessee State Rep. Justin Pearson (D)

I am a Christian and I still don't understand what a "Christian Nationalist" is other than a bogey man term by leftists.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 20, 2025 05:59 PM (2GCMq)

Yes. It is the current communist gobbledygook to denegrate people who love their country but at the same time understand why "In God We Trust" is on our currency.

Their god is government, from whom all blessings flow, and the source of our rights. Godless commies use that term.

Posted by: Minuteman at August 20, 2025 06:27 PM (47/pr)

242
What happened to all those Cucks in the TX legislature? You know, the faggot cuck fake "Republicans" who tried to railroad Ken Paxton?

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 20, 2025 06:27 PM (AqX5F)

243 What's ironic is the "Greatest Generation" was lopsidedly democrat of that FDR tradition. But many never realized how much the party had changed.

I sort of thought when they died off, the Dems would lose a lot automatic votes.

I didn't think the boomers would go super liberal.

Posted by: Leupold at August 20, 2025 06:27 PM (4pwAx)

244 One more procedural vote needed before sending it to the Senate.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 20, 2025 06:27 PM (ufFY8)

245 A LOT of registered democrats have changed to independent due to republican gerrymandering. It hinders MAGA efforts to dilute Dem votes when they can't track them!

I changed to Independent in 2020 because I was pissed at the Republican party
Posted by: It's me donna at August 20, 2025 06:13 PM (VE6XX)

That's not really gonna work. Gerrymandering looks at how you *vote* not what your registration is.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 20, 2025 06:27 PM (8avO+)

246 >>> whatever it takes to keep those programs afloat (or even expand them).
Posted by: Moron Analyst
------------

These numerology polls do not take into account that conservatives, regardless of age or possibly more so with increasing age, Do Not Respond To Pollsters.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 20, 2025 06:27 PM (671IT)

247 It's never a "False Flag".

Posted by: gKWVE at August 20, 2025 06:28 PM (4NDqP)

248 New day. New handle for the man of many handles whom we can always count on to "Call it like it is" or something to that effect haha . See you folks sometime tomorrow.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 20, 2025 06:28 PM (2GCMq)

249
Audrie Hepburn was too thin, and had to be dubbed by Marnie Nixon.

Julie all the way for Eliza.
Posted by: Bulg

==============

Julie WHO? So wat if she sings and she's pretty and she dominated the role on Broadway, no one ever herda her and she won't sell tickets.

(later, at the Oscars when Julie wins for Mary Poppins: "Oh.")

Posted by: Hollywood, as stupid then as it is now at August 20, 2025 06:28 PM (ny95y)

250 I used to come home on leave and bust my dad out of the old folks home. “Family” kind of wanted him put away. You would not believe the shit people will do to fuck over their parents. I was determined not to let that happen to dear old dad. People check in - they don’t often leave.

But some of the people there, some lady must have pegged me as a softy. She didn’t know me from Adam. She rolls up in a wheelchair. “Get me out of here!” She says. What can I do? I have my hands full already.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 20, 2025 06:28 PM (IUcAj)

251 122 Bullshit and put down the broad brush. I am close to the age of dirt and I support PDT. I am not alone either.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 20, 2025 06:06 PM (dxWFK)

You don't fall for the Democrat's standard tactic: Fear, uncertainty, and doubt. The Dems have been working that angle on the Boomers since the 2012 campaign with a Paul Ryan lookalike pushing Granny over a cliff. The Dems ceaselessly screamed Republicans want to eliminate Medicare. Because it works to scare folks on Medicare. The latest tactic aimed at the Baby Boomers was the Destroying Democracy and Our Precious Norms junk. I don't get why it works, but the Dems must have had polling and focus group results that said it would on Boomers.

In short, the Dems worked to make as many Boomers as possible feel like victims. The go-to tactic of the Democrats. This move on the Boomers must have been driven by internal Dem knowledge they were not getting as many 18-26 voters as they expected. Where could they get more votes? They were maxxed-out on possible female voters. Appeal to men? No way. That would turn-off too many of their female voters. They were maxxed-out on blacks. They mis-calculated Hispanics.

Posted by: Gref at August 20, 2025 06:28 PM (aBgBM)

252 One more procedural vote needed before sending it to the Senate.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 20, 2025 06:27 PM

I am shocked that the Bolsheviks aren't faking heart attacks and other medical emergencies on the floor.

Posted by: toby928 at August 20, 2025 06:28 PM (jc0TO)

253 I went from politically uninvolved to R in the space of a few years around 2000.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

I always stated that my political conversion happened on Sept 11, 2001, for obvious reasons -- but in retrospect it actually started to happen earlier: The late '90s with the outrageous hypocrisy of the Dems re: the Monica Lewinsky scandal and Clinton's other "bimbo eruptions." Hillary led the "sluts and nuts" smear campaign against all of Bill's accusers, and "believe all women" went right out the window. I realized then that the Dems had zero integrity, and were nothing but a bunch of power-hungry liars and hypocrites. By the time 9/11 happened,I was already primed to flip.

Posted by: zombie at August 20, 2025 06:29 PM (pMi6S)

254 It’s hard to understand why the elderly don’t approve of President Trump
Posted by: Gonzotx at August 20, 2025 05:54 PM (nGraA)

Not to name names but there are plenty of people here who don't really like Trump. Oh, they like his policies, but they dislike his personality.

Now, if you're on social security or whatever and you either don't give a shit about your children or don't have them, you let your opinion of personality rule your decisions.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 20, 2025 06:29 PM (ExV1e)

255 >>That's not really gonna work. Gerrymandering looks at how you *vote* not what your registration is.

This could have been posted in ALL CAPS by Ben.

It's why I larfed at it when I read it.

Posted by: garrett at August 20, 2025 06:29 PM (Z1dZR)

256 Why are the oldest voters not changing to the Trump train? Is it that those are the "protest generation" of the Sixties and they are set in their ways?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 20, 2025 06:22 PM (omVj0)
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Trump said "pussy".

Posted by: Axeman at August 20, 2025 06:29 PM (krQz2)

257 Seriously, JD Vance continues to impress me. He is sharp, witty, quick on his feet, and has a beard.
Posted by: Mikey Alpha Kilo at August 20, 2025 06:26 PM (0aYVJ)

Hey, I'm sharp and witty, and I have a beard too!

Posted by: Barky O at August 20, 2025 06:30 PM (8hxDK)

258 Some old black guy asking about procedure.
Sigh.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 20, 2025 06:30 PM (ufFY8)

259 I used to come home on leave and bust my dad out of the old folks home...
---
I am picturing you as Billy Crudup and your Dad as Albert Finney a la Big Fish. I love that movie.

Posted by: Mikey Alpha Kilo at August 20, 2025 06:30 PM (0aYVJ)

260 235 221, agreed. I still don't quite understand fully, tho
Posted by: man at August 20, 2025 06:25 PM (tubbA)

I don't fully understand either. Those are just a couple of things I've thought of while considering this phenomenon. The reflexiveness and level of vitriol of their opposition for example are hard to wrap my head around.

Posted by: Weird, man. Just weird. at August 20, 2025 06:30 PM (TbWk/)

261 Third reading vote now.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 20, 2025 06:31 PM (ufFY8)

262 Obama made me politically aware. He made me fear for our Country.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 20, 2025 06:32 PM (dxWFK)

263 Heh.
Watching the news about Texas passing the new political map. I can't see the Texas legislature building without thinking of Charles Durning dancing around.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 20, 2025 06:32 PM (2WIwB)

264 I see Idaho and Wyoming have girthy gains in the GOP rolls. Tumescent, even.
Posted by: Mikey Alpha Kilo
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Both have closed primaries.

I suspect shenanigans of the D variety.

Posted by: JQ at August 20, 2025 06:32 PM (rdVOm)

265 Huh. Microsoft workers are staging a sit in? Smelly BO revolutikn?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 20, 2025 06:32 PM (0sAW2)

266 I've got 2 ,21 year old Grandsons and they both love Trump

Posted by: It's me donna at August 20, 2025 06:32 PM (VE6XX)

267 A federal appeals court on Wednesday ruled that the Trump administration can resume terminations of Temporary Protected Status for more than 60,000 immigrants from Nepal, Nicaragua and Honduras. A Ninth Circuit panel granted the federal government’s emergency stay it requested after a lower court postponed the termination of the Temporary Protected Status program for the three countries until Nov. 18 while litigation plays out. However, the three-judge panel denied the government’s request to stay the proceedings of the district court, saying that “management of the docket is within the discretion of the district court.”

Posted by: SMOD at August 20, 2025 06:32 PM (9YC7d)

268 Sure thing, bubbles. LOLl

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 20, 2025 06:21 PM (2GCMq)

I'll do this this last time. Seriously. Because I like it better when you don't stalk me. And I like it so much when women like you are silent.

Do you have a skill ? Can you crochet ? Can you weave ? Can you decorate a home ? Can you cook ?

I suspect you do not. You "lead a church". I can not, even when I extend my mind, embrace a situation where I listen to someone like you lecturing - every Sunday and Wednesday Evening and whatever other dates you feel like talking - where I'd feel like listening.

Unless you have some insights into running a welding machine - TIG or MIG - and you don't - I seriously and honestly wonder why you feel so important about yourself.

Or are you just a reader ? Because I have a King James. And I can read that myself as well.

Posted by: Call It Like It Is at August 20, 2025 06:32 PM (57Nk3)

269 Each Democrat asking a question has been a black person. Is this rayciss?

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 20, 2025 06:33 PM (ufFY8)

270 Curious that FL has lots of retired old people, yet is a red state. Maybe this is less about old people in general and more about regions that remain hard core Dem.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 20, 2025 06:15 PM (kUxzU)

Lots of the old fart boomers in floriduh are redder than red, which is why they moved there. The yankee land and california libtard old fart boomers are blue and only visit the Land Of Death to double vote at home and in floriduh because they never play by the rules and will clutch at freebies until covered over with dirt.

Posted by: Old Fart Who Knows The Mystery at August 20, 2025 06:33 PM (R/m4+)

271 Carried over:

Mawkish songs, and Wilde's satire of class values turned into a morality play. Pah!

You just like the fact that it was sung well.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 20, 2025 05:41 PM (rbvCR)

George Bernard Shaw's play.

Wrong is your general criticism as well.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 20, 2025 06:33 PM (iJfKG)

272 Heh.
Watching the news about Texas passing the new political map. I can't see the Texas legislature building without thinking of Charles Durning dancing around.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 20, 2025 06:32 PM

The man does a great side step.

Posted by: toby928 at August 20, 2025 06:33 PM (jc0TO)

273 False Fag, I'll have you know I'm a full fledged fag - Pete Buttgiggle outraged

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 20, 2025 06:33 PM (so5nu)

274 Watching the news about Texas passing the new political map. I can't see the Texas legislature building without thinking of Charles Durning dancing around.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 20, 2025 06:32 PM (2WIwB)

The little bell while they are voting cracks me up.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 20, 2025 06:34 PM (ufFY8)

275
Question No One Is Asking:

If msnbc's name change is cool and great for the channel, why wait to change it? Why wait until the very last day possible?

Because losing "nbc" is really bad for them, that's why. (Yes, really.)

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 20, 2025 06:35 PM (AqX5F)

276 "I don't want to say, 'The death cycle of the Democratic Party,' but there seems to be no end to this," Michael Pruser, director of data science for Decision Desk HQ, told the Times. "There is no silver lining or cavalry coming across the hill. This is month after month, year after year."
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Fetterman seems to be dead set on pulling out of the dive. But there are a lot of Dems who are paralyzed by their ideology.

I predict a couple more orbits of the toilet bowl before they come to the stark realization that "messaging" ain't working.

And that doesn't mean "we have to change our message!" (as they will probably continue to take it), it means STOP THINKING ABOUT "Messaging"!

Posted by: Axeman at August 20, 2025 06:35 PM (krQz2)

277 Both have closed primaries.

I suspect shenanigans of the D variety.
Posted by: JQ at August 20, 2025 06:32 PM (rdVOm)

Having lived in both states, I am not too worried about that.

Eh, I could be wrong, but...

Posted by: Mikey Alpha Kilo at August 20, 2025 06:35 PM (0aYVJ)

278 Well... it took about 4 years for the Whigs to cease to exist, and be replaced, and that was with 1850's Tech...

Although, the two partys are now more LEGALLY entrenched in power than back then.
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 20, 2025 06:24 PM (mP0Kj)

The Whigs were never really a major party. They could be best thought of as the anti-Democratic Party Party. In the North they wanted improvements to the new Midwest states and internal growth, in the South they attacked the Dems for being too soft on spreading Slavery. They could only win a national election when there were no national issues at stake. Its not a coincidence that their only winner candidates were Generals, traditionally non political.

It is much easier to become a faction in one of the major parties than start splinter parties, which is an advantage in our system...as long as major third parties don't ever form.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 20, 2025 06:35 PM (8avO+)

279 BREAKING: A student in Florida was nominated by his own teacher as "Most Likely to Become a Dictator" because he was a conservative, a parent just revealed.

The teacher allowed students to label him a "N@ziphile" because he was interested in WW2 history and ROTC.

They literally tried to give him a "certificate" for "Most Likely to Become a Dictator."

FIRE THE TEACHER. They can move to New York or California - get a job there.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at August 20, 2025 06:02 PM (TGPs7)

Smile. Thank them and tell them that you'll never forget any of them. Ever.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 20, 2025 06:35 PM (ExV1e)

280 We have discussed it a lot here, but Obama's plan to ignore the working class, and favor the college-educated, minorities and urban class, will be noted for decades.

For over 150 years, the working class was the backbone of the Democrat Party. The core that allowed them to dominate American politics during most of that time.

And Obama just ... threw them away.

The GOPe views them as a dog turd on the dining table.

Trump, the real estate developer, saw a distressed property in prime, premium location.

It's not at all a surprise why he's dominating politics and the Republican Party now.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 20, 2025 06:35 PM (5rtBr)

281 False Fag

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 20, 2025 06:33 PM (so5nu)
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Fake and Gay.

Posted by: Axeman at August 20, 2025 06:35 PM (krQz2)

282 We're fat, and we like to dance!
Posted by: Pharma ad people
......

Careful. Wouldn't want you to have a hearty tack.

Posted by: wth at August 20, 2025 06:35 PM (v0R5T)

283 Being in my 29th years, I see retirement looming like a Roadrunner railroad tunnel painted on a mountainside. I for one am happy in the knowledge that the economy will do well for the next 4 years, as it is directly related to my retirement savings.

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at August 20, 2025 06:35 PM (DsA2n)

284 I don't think there is a huge number of these people but I think there are at least some who go with the strong horse, and the Democrats are losers now so people are bailing on them.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 20, 2025 06:35 PM (dfIr7)

285 Huh. Microsoft workers are staging a sit in? Smelly BO revolutikn?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 20, 2025 06:32 PM (0sAW2)

AI-result:

Microsoft workers and activists recently staged a sit-in at the company's Redmond headquarters on August 20, 2025, to protest the alleged use of Microsoft's cloud technology by the Israeli military. This demonstration was organized under the banner of "No Azure for Genocide."

lol

Your hen house, your rats.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 20, 2025 06:36 PM (i24o9)

286 156 I ride the crest of the boomer wave. Me and 99% of the people I hang with are considered right wing assholes. Maybe it's because Texas.

(DanMa'am is my political sherpa btw, for some reason she is seen as a total sweetie to the same people)
Posted by: DanMan
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You were asking why--political socialization--essentially for most people, the pattern on who they vote for and why is set in late adolescence and early adulthood. Gen X got Carter and Reagan, Silents got Truman and Ike, Boomers got JFK, LBJ, Nixon. Millennials got Clinton, GWB and Z got Obama, Trump I, and Biden.

That leads to a lot of people seeking out news sources that are compatible with underlying ideology rather than objective news.

Posted by: whig at August 20, 2025 06:36 PM (ctrM5)

287 Truth or bullshit?

I don't know if they're Jewish but someone is on video doing it.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 20, 2025 06:36 PM (ExV1e)

288 If msnbc's name change is cool and great for the channel, why wait to change it? Why wait until the very last day possible?

Because losing "nbc" is really bad for them, that's why. (Yes, really.)
Posted by: Soothsayer at August 20, 2025 06:35 PM (AqX5F)

Yep, "Network" news still has a lot of Panache. Even CNN can't quite beat that advantage.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 20, 2025 06:37 PM (8avO+)

289 Smile. Thank them and tell them that you'll never forget any of them. Ever.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 20, 2025 06:35 PM (ExV1e)

"You just made the list, pal," is also acceptable.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 20, 2025 06:37 PM (i24o9)

290 I just saw on the internet that Boomers believe everything they see on the internet. No wonder we're screwed!

Posted by: If it's not in HD, it's not real at August 20, 2025 06:38 PM (OjHyA)

291
What's this?

Gov Desantis sent someone to California to extradite the newest poster-boy for the Democrat party?

Oh this is gonna be good. Please, please, California, try to stop this extradition.

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 20, 2025 06:38 PM (AqX5F)

292 We have discussed it a lot here, but Obama's plan to ignore the working class, and favor the college-educated, minorities and urban class, will be noted for decades.

NAFTA was signed by Clinton. And passed by a majority of Republicans.

It started then.

Posted by: Call It Like It Is at August 20, 2025 06:38 PM (57Nk3)

293 Fen to Communists Christian Nationalist is another dig at calling Christians Nazis.

Posted by: Skip at August 20, 2025 06:39 PM (+qU29)

294 I’m ready for Congressional Democrats to introduce legislation to repeal Obamacare.

Then we carry Obama through DC in a horse drawn cart to celebrate our triumph against treasonous Communism.

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at August 20, 2025 06:39 PM (jYRYu)

295 The DNC needs more Puppet Show on platform.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at August 20, 2025 06:39 PM (gLikB)

296 174 Fen, thanks. My appointment today was useful.

Posted by: Bulg at August 20, 2025 06:39 PM (77rzZ)

297 The teacher allowed students to label him a "N@ziphile" because he was interested in WW2 history and ROTC.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 20, 2025 06:35 PM (ExV1e)
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Yup, that's all the ROTC produces is Nazis.

Just a long line Nazis... who fight for America...

Posted by: Axeman at August 20, 2025 06:39 PM (krQz2)

298 I just saw on the internet that Boomers believe everything they see on the internet. No wonder we're screwed!

Posted by: If it's not in HD, it's not real at August 20, 2025 06:38 PM (OjHyA)
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ISWYDT.

Posted by: Axeman at August 20, 2025 06:40 PM (krQz2)

299 >>It's not at all a surprise why he's dominating politics and the Republican Party now.

Look where the money comes from. For decades Republicans were called the party of the country club and Wall Street. Now the Democrats are owned by Wall Street.

Parties cater to their donors.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 20, 2025 06:40 PM (viF8m)

300 288 If msnbc's name change is cool and great for the channel, why wait to change it? Why wait until the very last day possible?

Because losing "nbc" is really bad for them, that's why. (Yes, really.)
Posted by: Soothsayer at August 20, 2025 06:35 PM (AqX5F)
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The should have ditched the "MS" in MSNBC as well. It stands for Microsoft which hasn't held a financial position in the outlet for years.

Posted by: Republican National Committee at August 20, 2025 06:41 PM (dIske)

301 The Whigs were never really a major party. They could be best thought of as the anti-Democratic Party Party. In the North they wanted improvements to the new Midwest states and internal growth, in the South they attacked the Dems for being too soft on spreading Slavery. They could only win a national election when there were no national issues at stake. Its not a coincidence that their only winner candidates were Generals, traditionally non political.

It is much easier to become a faction in one of the major parties than start splinter parties, which is an advantage in our system...as long as major third parties don't ever form.
Posted by: Oldcat
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The Whig party collapsed after the 1850 Compromise--the Northern wing became more and more antislavery and the Southern wing vanished. So in the South, the young fire eaters won over their more moderate older pols in the Dem party and in the North, the Dem party bled support from the working class and religious due to constant attempts to placate slavery's spread.

The Republican party put General Fremont as their first candidate in 1856 in part because a lot of them used to be Whigs.

Posted by: whig at August 20, 2025 06:41 PM (ctrM5)

302 > I've got 2 ,21 year old Grandsons and they both love Trump
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young voters are on an integrity kick

Posted by: Don Black. Message: the chair is bigger than it looked online at August 20, 2025 06:41 PM (AOsQT)

303 Nood. Still more mortgage fraud.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 20, 2025 06:41 PM (ExV1e)

304 The leftists strongholds are the universities and the media.
They are also backed by people like Soros and slime judges.
And of course the usual baby killers, unions, Hollywood idiots, and the victims of a racist society. All of these people are worthless. But they vote. And they do and will cheat in elections. They have no shame. We will have to deal with it as best we can. Call them out on the issues, call them out on their lies, and we have to show up and vote.

Posted by: Case at August 20, 2025 06:41 PM (iwlvf)

305 Fetterman seems to be dead set on pulling out of the dive. But there are a lot of Dems who are paralyzed by their ideology.

I predict a couple more orbits of the toilet bowl before they come to the stark realization that "messaging" ain't working.

And that doesn't mean "we have to change our message!" (as they will probably continue to take it), it means STOP THINKING ABOUT "Messaging"!
Posted by: Axeman at August 20, 2025 06:35 PM (krQz2)

Fetterman himself is smart enough to pull out of the death spiral, but that doesn't form a platform that can win against an energized GOP under MAGA. You aren't going to reach anyone talking like today's college educators.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 20, 2025 06:42 PM (8avO+)

306 A former law partner of mine retired a moved to Florida. He's a big time leftist who posts Heather Cox Richardson columns on Facebook as if she is gospel. Yet he fled NYS as soon as he could because it was too expensive. He's 87 so he and his wife , both of whom are very nice are the old time Dems we're talking about

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 20, 2025 06:42 PM (so5nu)

307 The should have ditched the "MS" in MSNBC as well. It stands for Microsoft which hasn't held a financial position in the outlet for years.
Posted by: Republican National Committee at August 20, 2025 06:41 PM (dIske)

I had no idea. I always thought it stood for "More Shit." Well, it certainly stands for that now.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Pickle Queen of AK at August 20, 2025 06:43 PM (1Gsou)

308 This dumbass Dem doesn't get that elected representatives are REPRESENTATIVES of the people, not slaves to the people. They are elected to make fucking decisions.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 20, 2025 06:43 PM (ufFY8)

309 Curious that FL has lots of retired old people, yet is a red state. Maybe this is less about old people in general and more about regions that remain hard core Dem.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 20, 2025 06:15 PM

It is pretty much self selection. Those that want to move away from blue or swing states are more motivated to keep more of their stuff and gravitate to states like Florida and Texas where they can actually keep their stuff.

It bears repeating but just a short 15 years ago Florida was a swing state that usually voted democrat. obama won the state in 2008 with 50% of the vote. Trump won the state in 2024 with 56% of the vote.

15 years is a blink of the eye in the political shift of an entire state.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 20, 2025 06:43 PM (0N4FZ)

310 The teacher allowed students to label him a "N@ziphile" because he was interested in WW2 history and ROTC.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 20, 2025 06:35 PM (ExV1e)
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Yup, that's all the ROTC produces is Nazis.

Just a long line Nazis... who fight for America...
Posted by: Axeman at August 20, 2025 06:39 PM (krQz2)
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And short of going to one of the service academies, ROTC is one of the best scholarships available.in the country.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 20, 2025 06:44 PM (2WIwB)

311 Just a long line Nazis... who fight for America...

Pro Tip ... and this is simply real ... read a book. Read After Action Reports. Read WW II shit or Vietnam shit or the 'Stan shit.

The secret sauce to the United States Military isn't West Point or Annapolis or Colorado Springs.

Its the NCOs that - compared to every other country in the world. The best of the middle class. We are the only nation on Earth still with one.

Posted by: Call It Like It Is at August 20, 2025 06:44 PM (57Nk3)

312 Mawkish songs, and Wilde's satire of class values turned into a morality play. Pah!

You just like the fact that it was sung well.
Posted by: Kindltot
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As mentioned above, Pygmalion was the basis for My Fair Lady. Like most musicals, it depends on personal taste--in my case, I like it okay simply as an all ages elaborate big screen spectacle that Hollywood makes no more.

Posted by: whig at August 20, 2025 06:45 PM (ctrM5)

313 Having lived in both states, I am not too worried about that.

Eh, I could be wrong, but...
Posted by: Mikey Alpha Kilo
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Don't ever think that the D's will not at least *try* to eff-up red state voting.

Posted by: JQ at August 20, 2025 06:45 PM (rdVOm)

314 @Mister Scott, I remember when old Jewish ladies were fooled by the butterfly ballot and voted for Pat Buchanan.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 20, 2025 06:46 PM (eStot)

315 The Republican party put General Fremont as their first candidate in 1856 in part because a lot of them used to be Whigs.
Posted by: whig at August 20, 2025 06:41 PM (ctrM5)

Sure, the Northern Whigs, with a bit of Free Soil and the Nativist Americans who were very strong at that time. But being a single issue party is a long term loser so they were able to mainstream most of them and lose the label of anti immigrant. After all most of the attacks came about over slavery opposition.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 20, 2025 06:46 PM (8avO+)

316 Its the NCOs that - compared to every other country in the world. The best of the middle class. We are the only nation on Earth still with one. Posted by: Call It Like It Is at August 20, 2025 06:44 PM (57Nk3)

Maybe the Brits and Canucks.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 20, 2025 06:47 PM (eStot)

317
losing "nbc" is really bad for them, that's why. (Yes, really.)
Posted by: Soothsayer

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Sad day when the best thing going for you is your association with NBC News.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 20, 2025 06:50 PM (ny95y)

318 Maybe the Brits and Canucks.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 20, 2025 06:47 PM (eStot)

Worked with any of them lately ?

Posted by: Call It Like It Is at August 20, 2025 06:50 PM (57Nk3)

319 Its the NCOs that - compared to every other country in the world. The best of the middle class. We are the only nation on Earth still with one.
Posted by: Call It Like It Is at August 20, 2025 06:44 PM (57Nk3)

Most armies use junior officers for the tasks we use NCOs. Both sides at that level in the UKR war seem to have been creative at adjusting to the new kind of war. The upper echelon on the UKR side and a number on the Russian side have been terrible.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 20, 2025 06:51 PM (8avO+)

320 Maybe the Brits and Canucks.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 20, 2025 06:47 PM (eStot)

Those armies are so small they would get diluted out if expanded for a real conflict.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 20, 2025 06:52 PM (8avO+)

321 The propaganda ministries and the old time Dems have a symbiotic relationship. However they are both aging and dying out. The ministries hold little interest to younger people who are internet junkies.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 20, 2025 06:52 PM (so5nu)

322 ignore the working class, and favor the college-educated, minorities and urban class, will be noted for decades.
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The calculation was, we’ve got a completely functional electoral cheat machine. Let’s use it, and dispense with antiquated notions that we give a flying fuck about anything or anybody.

That’s what was so disturbing at the time. Electoral suicide. But they were (obviously) completely crazy, OR, they had everything sewn up in perpetuity, and could do whatever they wanted. I wasn’t sure which one was correct.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 20, 2025 06:53 PM (IUcAj)

323 Kindltot: It’s “sung.”
— Henry Higgins
Posted by: Bulg

*GLARE*

Posted by: Zoltan "Miklos" Karpathy, the rudest pest from Budapest at August 20, 2025 06:53 PM (vEse0)

324 That's funny. Guy on Substack didn't like my opinion on man made climate change, was going to mute me. Said I got my opinion from entertainment tv. I told him I didn't watch tv, I read Doomberg. He did a 180.And I wasn't snide to him.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 20, 2025 07:09 PM (kUxzU)

325 56
' I sometimes feel like you are our resident hype man, Jack.'

Do you have any commentary for the piss-pantses who do the opposite of Jack?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 20, 2025 07:58 PM (3wi/L)

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