Wednesday Morning Rant

Laughable

The UK is in a drought and the government is worried about water availability and is therefore pushing conservation. It's mostly stuff you would expect. Turn off the tap and don't let it leak. Be parsimonious with irrigation. Don't water your lawn. Take less time in the shower. Delete your data.

What's that, you say? Well, from the UK's National Drought Group:

Delete old emails and pictures as data centres require vast amounts of water to cool their systems.

Hilariously, this insane recommendation is in the section titled, "How To Save Water At Home." Last time I checked, I don't live in a datacenter. But even setting that aside, this is one of the most laughable recommendations I have ever seen. Even if it was enough water to make a difference in a drought, this would save not one drop.

Datacenter capacity exists. It's already built. The water cooling system - if the equipment is water cooled, which it often is - is already deployed. The only way that cooling system can use less water than it does today is if it either gets smaller (e.g., equipment is shut down and the cooling loops servicing it are drained) or if it gets more efficient so it needs less water to keep it cool (that is, it's replaced). It would take a truly staggering reduction in data consumption to result in shutdowns of that much equipment and it would probably just sit there idle for a while since it's already paid for and the owners will find a use for it.

But even that were to happen, it's still a stupid recommendation. First, most data aren't personal data anymore. Everyone's personal photos and E-Mails are a drop in the bucket compared to AI datasets and other large commercial data consumers. But set aside the laughable absurdity and the depth of the misunderstanding this recommendation reflects. Pretend it could matter. If we all get together and delete our family photos, we can shutter a couple of datacenters and avoid the water consumption. How much difference would it make?

Not much. First, "water-cooled" datacenters only use some water. "Liquid-cooled" is probably more accurate. Large-scale datacenter cooling loops have water and (usually) a lot of glycol, along with various additives and biocides. Exact ratios are usually trade secrets, but there is a fair amount of non-water in a "water-cooled" datacenter. But again, let's pretend there isn't. It's all water straight from the tap. How much water are we talking about?

Again, it's hard to say. It isn't one size fits all. But let's take an extreme case. The US Department of Energy's "El Capitan" supercomputer at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory is the fastest system in the world, and came online late last year. It uses an elaborate - and big - water cooling system that requires, according to PC Magazine, nine million gallons of water "per day." That's how much cycles through it per day, not it's daily consumption or the size of its reservoir. These are closed systems. There are always losses - leaks, evaporation, etc. - but water doesn't just flow through the datacenter on its way down the drain. So let's make some very bad assumptions. Let's assume that "El Capitan" has a nine million gallon reservoir, and that reservoir gets fully consumed over the course of a year.

So that would mean that the datacenter requires nine million gallons of water per year to run - certainly overstating it, probably by at least an order of magnitude. Your average four-member British household uses 450 liters of water per day, which comes out to about 43,224 gallons per year. The nine million gallons that would be saved by shutting down the datacenter that holds the world's most powerful supercomputer would save the equivalent of about 208 average four-person households. Even if you can completely shutter a dozen "El Capitan"-sized datacenters thanks to deleting your pictures and E-Mails, you're saving much less water than a neighborhood in London uses up in a year.

It's one of the most laughably stupid things I have seen in a long time. It exposes the fundamental misunderstanding of policymakers. They don't know how anything works. Datacenter water usage, in aggregate, is non-trivial but encouraging people to delete their E-Mails and photos would do precisely nothing to curtail it, anyway. That stuff is small change in a world where AI is a thing. The only thing this recommendation is good for is a hearty laugh. Or deep contempt because no matter what, bureaucrats always find a way to recommend something you'll hate that also happens to be pointless.

I'm used to my own government publishing insane nonsense like this, so it's almost refreshing to see it come from somewhere else this time.

Posted by: Joe Mannix at 11:00 AM

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1 !!!

Posted by: Lizzy at August 20, 2025 11:01 AM (GbwPZ)

2 I’ll fetch em.

Posted by: Turn 2 at August 20, 2025 11:02 AM (CyFyf)

3 Never not funny.

Trump Opens Another Deportation Facility Callled The "Cornhusker Clink"

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at August 20, 2025 11:02 AM (L/fGl)

4 >>They don't know how anything works. Datacenter water usage, in aggregate, is non-trivial but encouraging people to delete their E-Mails and photos would do precisely nothing to curtail it, anyway.

Erase your memories so we can pretend life has always been like this!

Posted by: Lizzy at August 20, 2025 11:02 AM (GbwPZ)

5 Thanks, Joe!

Posted by: Inogame at August 20, 2025 11:03 AM (53oGX)

6 Good morning good people.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 20, 2025 11:03 AM (cYBz/)

7 >>Trump Opens Another Deportation Facility Callled The "Cornhusker Clink"

He's making the memes and the mean nicknames before his critics can. Amazing!

Posted by: Lizzy at August 20, 2025 11:04 AM (GbwPZ)

8 But is data center water Halal?

Posted by: Heavy Meta at August 20, 2025 11:04 AM (NgqoH)

9 Please, please, don't be a water waster,
'Cause every little drop counts.

Posted by: PSA, WOR-TV, 1969 at August 20, 2025 11:04 AM (G5+As)

10 I keep saying the Left are incapable of determining cause and effect.,

Posted by: polynikes at August 20, 2025 11:04 AM (EYmYM)

11 They could save water by not brushing their teeth.

And thank Heaven for data centers and super computers. With the help of technology, my cable company was able to narrow down the time of my service call to between 8am and 5pm!

Posted by: Posted by: Stateless - VERY GRATEFUL, BLESSED, LOVED AND HAPPY! -- - New Life Creation - 18.1% at August 20, 2025 11:05 AM (jvJvP)

12 Is the UK not surrounded by water?
Do these facilities need desalinated water to cool?

Posted by: Inogame at August 20, 2025 11:05 AM (53oGX)

13 Fool Britannia....

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 20, 2025 11:05 AM (dPfyF)

14 Brits,
The first thing you want to do when installing a new shower head is to remove the flow restrictor.

Posted by: RODNEY at August 20, 2025 11:06 AM (eY0nO)

15 yum yum shit
yummy shit pebbles in my mouth

Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at August 20, 2025 11:06 AM (uFgd+)

16 >>Fool Britannia....

Threadwinner!

Posted by: Lizzy at August 20, 2025 11:06 AM (GbwPZ)

17 >>Fool Britannia....

Britannia waves the rules

Posted by: JackStraw at August 20, 2025 11:07 AM (viF8m)

18 Looks like that Rhode Island AAG was fired for being arrested for criminal trespass and being a drunken asshole, but mostly for being a drunken asshole.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 20, 2025 11:08 AM (2UnvF)

19 Thx Joe. England has 57m people in a nation which is 5000 sq miles smaller than NYS which has a population of about $19m. Keep importing people while you have the same amount and sources of water and water shortages occur.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 20, 2025 11:08 AM (so5nu)

20 "Uses" is one of those terms that is heavily misused.

For most people, in this situation, they assume it means "consumes." That is, those 9 million gallons "per day" are something used up and lost, requiring a whole other 9 million the next day. As you point out, that isn't the case.

It's the same with "per day." When combined with "uses" it implies consumption.

Posted by: GWB at August 20, 2025 11:08 AM (rSsQh)

21 Just because you delete something, it doesn’t mean it disappears completely. It’s still sitting on a server somewhere, right, and therefore still dependent on a datacenter?

Posted by: Bulg at August 20, 2025 11:08 AM (77rzZ)

22 Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at August 20, 2025 11:06 AM (uFgd+)

Are you really that retarded that your reading comprehension is no better than a first grader?

Posted by: polynikes at August 20, 2025 11:08 AM (EYmYM)

23 >>The nine million gallons that would be saved by shutting down the datacenter that holds the world's most powerful supercomputer would save the equivalent of about 208 average four-person households.

Here's a thought, import 208 fewer refugee families...
If resources are scarce, then why continue flooding your country with masses of people from around the world?

Posted by: Lizzy at August 20, 2025 11:08 AM (GbwPZ)

24 Does this mean LA will dry up and die?

Posted by: pudinhead at August 20, 2025 11:08 AM (W3T6M)

25 "Save water, shower with a friend!"

Big in the '70's. . .

Posted by: Tonypete at August 20, 2025 11:09 AM (cYBz/)

26 Does this mean the English will smell as bad as the French?

Posted by: Case at August 20, 2025 11:09 AM (iwlvf)

27 MONKEY!

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 20, 2025 11:09 AM (aPBRN)

28 Why anyone replies to Aliassmithsmith is beyond me. IMO this is moron using a sock just to stir shit.

Just ignore it and it will go away.

Posted by: Somewhere South ofI-80 at August 20, 2025 11:10 AM (89Sog)

29 And wear two masks.

Posted by: The CDC at August 20, 2025 11:11 AM (XQo4F)

30 Will women stop shaving their armpits and cooch?

Posted by: pudinhead at August 20, 2025 11:11 AM (W3T6M)

31 In 1983 or so, it was a somewhat dry summer in NYC environs. Silly regs ensued, such as watering only from a bucket, not a hose. Neighbors turning in neighbors for daring to try to save their $30K shrubberies in Northern NJ, for example. Silly letters to the editor saying that people should just let everything die for the greater good and "we'll just have to try again next year." Brought out the worst ninnies and nannies. Lots of reservoirs and none of them ran dry. Started raining again and everybody shrugged. Helped make our decision to get away from the creeps.

Posted by: NYC Refugee Since 1988 at August 20, 2025 11:11 AM (G5+As)

32 We need an excuse to have an 'accident' and shut down the data centers.

Posted by: UK's National Drought Group at August 20, 2025 11:11 AM (8pCF2)

33 28 Why anyone replies to Aliassmithsmith is beyond me. IMO this is moron using a sock just to stir shit.

Just ignore it and it will go away.
Posted by: Somewhere South ofI-80 at August 20, 2025 11:10 AM (89Sog

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He just wants to eat his own shit.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 20, 2025 11:11 AM (GBKbO)

34 Our "betters" are morons. Midwits, at best.

But worse, they think they are geniuses. It never even crossed their minds to CHECK if they were mistaken. Just put the advice from the enlightened out there so the peons can improve their lives and save the world!

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 20, 2025 11:11 AM (aPBRN)

35 I would bet that the largest data centers storing all our data to spy on citizens are run by government itself.

Posted by: I M Simpleton at August 20, 2025 11:12 AM (KPAbF)

36 TheCommonVoice@MaxRumbleX
Cincinnati’s justice system just handed two women accused of a brutal street attack a shocking lifeline. Dekyra Vernon and Aisha Devaughn went from $200k-$300k bonds down to $25k, paying just 10% to walk free while the city watches. The crowd even cheered. Absolute chaos.

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We can't over react to every little brutal street crime.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at August 20, 2025 11:12 AM (L/fGl)

37 Government bureaucrats deleting their cloud-storage collections of porn would probably save more than me deleting my emails.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 20, 2025 11:12 AM (GBKbO)

38 28 Why anyone replies to Aliassmithsmith is beyond me. IMO this is moron using a sock just to stir shit.

Just ignore it and it will go away.

Posted by: Somewhere South ofI-80 at August 20, 2025 11:10 AM (89Sog)

Incorrect...he's paid to be here. So, he won't go away, at least not til after next year's midterms, and probably not even then...

Posted by: Nova Local at August 20, 2025 11:12 AM (tOcjL)

39 When they ask the Brits to cut bavk on drinking tea I'll know that this is getting serious.

Posted by: Rex B at August 20, 2025 11:13 AM (+xk6Q)

40 >>I would bet that the largest data centers storing all our data to spy on citizens are run by government itself.

The data center capital of the world is northern Virginia. Loudoun County to be specific.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 20, 2025 11:14 AM (viF8m)

41 Do these facilities need desalinated water to cool?
Posted by: Inogame
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Salt water is corrosive and avoided in most applications of cooling--especially computers as the consequences of an electrolyte leak inside a data center are staggering. I have a watercooled cpu--but as Mannix says, it is a closed loop losing virtually nothing in its loop over the last several years.

Power plants using the giant evaporative coolers are one of the biggest consumers of water and that is because they are open loop with the water literally becoming water vapor expelled from the facilities like a giant swamp cooler.

In relatively closed systems using surface water with sewage connections, household use is also minimal--as that water from showers, washing, and toilets gets cleaned and released back to the surface waters. Watering for landscaping, street cleaning, etc. are where urban water residential systems lose water. Not toilets, bathtubs, and showers--the primary reason urban areas promote low flo devices comes from the demand end--less capacity for sewage and water lines.

Well based systems are different again depending underground aquifers that require recharging.

Posted by: whig at August 20, 2025 11:14 AM (ctrM5)

42 That money isn't nude.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 20, 2025 11:14 AM (63Dwl)

43 > Delete old emails and pictures as data centres require vast amounts of water to cool their systems.
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Ummm, yea.... about that.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 20, 2025 11:15 AM (Q4IgG)

44 It's one of the most laughably stupid things I have seen in a long time. It exposes the fundamental misunderstanding of policymakers. They don't know how anything works. Datacenter water usage, in aggregate, is non-trivial but encouraging people to delete their E-Mails and photos would do precisely nothing to curtail it, anyway. That stuff is small change in a world where AI is a thing. The only thing this recommendation is good for is a hearty laugh. Or deep contempt because no matter what, bureaucrats always find a way to recommend something you'll hate that also happens to be pointless.

Posted by: Joe Mannix at 11:00 AM

There's also the issue that ACCESSING that data and deleting it likely burns more energy and produces more heat than just leaving it as unaccessed data.

So not only are they wrong about how data centers work, their advice would actually use more water. (Again, miniscule, but still the wrong advice.)

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 20, 2025 11:15 AM (aPBRN)

45 “Please think of the Earth before printing this e-mail.” Made me want to print it all the more.

Posted by: Bulg at August 20, 2025 11:15 AM (77rzZ)

46 I guess it's safe to say the UK is well on its way of becoming a failed muslim state.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 20, 2025 11:15 AM (snZF9)

47 Sure, sure…but think about how virtuous you will feel to be doing something.

Posted by: Farmer ob at August 20, 2025 11:15 AM (hlNLQ)

48 I do believe that all the CoBs have warned against responding to trolls. Let the moderators do their job please.

That's all I got.

Have at it.

Posted by: Somewhere South ofI-80 at August 20, 2025 11:15 AM (89Sog)

49 38 28 Why anyone replies to Aliassmithsmith is beyond me. IMO this is moron using a sock just to stir shit.

Just ignore it and it will go away.

Posted by: Somewhere South ofI-80 at August 20, 2025 11:10 AM (89Sog)

Incorrect...he's paid to be here. So, he won't go away, at least not til after next year's midterms, and probably not even then...
Posted by: Nova Local

Increasing a lot of trolls are actually bots, not real people. ASS may or may not be a real person--if so, it could be a former disgruntled and banned commenter or simply a garden variety disruptor troll that intends to disrupt the flow of the comments here.

Posted by: whig at August 20, 2025 11:16 AM (ctrM5)

50 46 I guess it's safe to say the UK is well on its way of becoming a failed muslim state.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 20, 2025 11:15 AM (snZF9)

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With Trump making it politically acceptable to mass deport people, it'll be interesting to see if English politics changes in that direction as well.

Foreigners tearing down English flags in England probably won't make things better.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 20, 2025 11:16 AM (GBKbO)

51 Londonistan

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at August 20, 2025 11:16 AM (RqEcJ)

52 Blasphemy!

Chicago Residents Not Happy With Obama Presidential Center

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at August 20, 2025 11:16 AM (L/fGl)

53 49 Increasing a lot of trolls are actually bots, not real people. ASS may or may not be a real person--if so, it could be a former disgruntled and banned commenter or simply a garden variety disruptor troll that intends to disrupt the flow of the comments here.
Posted by: whig at August 20, 2025 11:16 AM (ctrM5)

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I'm convinced he's real, and he's Indian.

The story about the Indian truck driver got him real incensed.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 20, 2025 11:17 AM (GBKbO)

54 You've covered the closed cooling loop, circulating capacity. I think there are likely some other figures that go into running the chillers that remove heat from the cooling loops to another medium.

That other medium is likely some nearby reservoir or river, and you've no doubt seen the chillers of various sizes from nuke plant size to small modular units repeated like government projects.

Now that is not to say that that water is "used" up in the sense that it is gone. It simply absorbs the heat of vaporization from the cooling loop heat exchangers and goes into the atmosphere as vapor or is pumped backed in the reservoir or river as warmer water.

You'd likely have to know the amount of waste heat or estimate from chiller cooling capacity and temperature differences of the ins and outs of the river/reservoir water to back calculate amounts of water "used" or lost to evaporation in the chillers.

That would be your biggest "use" of water in these and similar operations.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 20, 2025 11:17 AM (i24o9)

55 In fairness, at some point we have to think about what kind of world we will be leaving to Keith Richards.

Posted by: toby928 at August 20, 2025 11:17 AM (jc0TO)

56 I have two air-cooled vehicles I drive, in addition to a lawn tractor. Therefore, I deserve both praise and subsidy.

Posted by: Auto Autist at August 20, 2025 11:17 AM (G5+As)

57 Hilarious how the Euroweenies keep pushing on stuff that doesn't matter while failing at stuff that does.
Weird to see all the EU leadership at the WH talking about the threat of Putin's military while allowing into their countries millions of Muslim 'immigrants' that refuse to assimilate the culture or respect the history of their host country.
It's almost like forming a neighborhood watch group to protect the area from Hell's Angels while allowing an MS-13 cell to operate out of your basement.
But whatever, the cradle of Western Democracy, the Enlightenment, the Reformation and the Industrial Revolution is dying.

Posted by: proudvastrightwingguy at August 20, 2025 11:17 AM (Ovc06)

58 So the trolls are like Rush’s “seminar callers.”

Posted by: Bulg at August 20, 2025 11:17 AM (77rzZ)

59 “Saving” water? Does not the giant burning sky orb evaporate ocean water in some sort of cycle? I mean, water isn’t destroyed, right?

Posted by: Farmer ob at August 20, 2025 11:18 AM (hlNLQ)

60 House 4-5 muzzie invaders as that will save on water per person.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at August 20, 2025 11:18 AM (17s+e)

61 They can come for my emails, they can come for my pictures, but I will never surrender my cat videos.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at August 20, 2025 11:18 AM (+nLeZ)

62 > I guess it's safe to say the UK is well on its way of becoming a failed muslim state.
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Potentially, with nukes.

Pakistan by comparison is mildly stable.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 20, 2025 11:18 AM (Q4IgG)

63 The story about the Indian truck driver got him real incensed.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

I love the smell of incense!

Posted by: Tonypete at August 20, 2025 11:18 AM (cYBz/)

64 >>Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.

– George Orwell

Posted by: JackStraw at August 20, 2025 11:18 AM (viF8m)

65 Any large building uses chill water in the AC system.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 20, 2025 11:20 AM (63Dwl)

66 46 I guess it's safe to say the UK is well on its way of becoming a failed muslim state.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 20, 2025 11:15 AM (snZF9)
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As is France.

We are going to have to do something about two more islamic countries having nuclear capability.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at August 20, 2025 11:20 AM (17s+e)

67 Of course Whig ninjad my point and said it more concisely.

Well done.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 20, 2025 11:20 AM (i24o9)

68 Mannix!

*Jazzy music plays*

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at August 20, 2025 11:21 AM (xcxpd)

69 >>Chicago Residents Not Happy With Obama Presidential Center

And I'm not happy with what he did to healthcare.
Maybe you shouldn't have helped him start his career, Chicago?

Posted by: Lizzy at August 20, 2025 11:21 AM (GbwPZ)

70 They could save all of the water they need if they deported all of the illegal mohammedans they have in the country. They would also save the 8 billion pounds per year they are spending to put them up in hotels, provide free cell phones, and the 800 pounds per week per illegal they are handing out in spending money.

Posted by: Thomans Paine at August 20, 2025 11:22 AM (0U5gm)

71 >> >>Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.

– George Orwell

Exactly. Destroy your personal memories.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 20, 2025 11:22 AM (GbwPZ)

72 Hilarious how the Euroweenies keep pushing on stuff that doesn't matter while failing at stuff that does.
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This is SOP for leftist organizations. Be they private or public.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at August 20, 2025 11:22 AM (17s+e)

73 >>Chicago Residents Not Happy With Obama Presidential Center

And I'm not happy with what he did to healthcare.
Maybe you shouldn't have helped him start his career, Chicago?

Posted by: Lizzy at August 20, 2025 11:21 AM (GbwPZ)

Also, your circus, your gay-ass, retarded, commie clown.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 20, 2025 11:22 AM (i24o9)

74 Liquid cooling for computers is usually a closed loop, too. You don’t want bugs or mice getting into the lines at 4 AM and making the system have to page Pixy.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 20, 2025 11:22 AM (3cXfB)

75 If they stop drinking tea at 4pm, less water used.

Posted by: dantesed at August 20, 2025 11:23 AM (Oy/m2)

76 Datacenters, like quite a few buildings, use humidification systems to keep the humidity a nominal levels, so this water will mostly be lost over some short period of time (perhaps days). I guess the easiest way to know is to look at their water bills.

Doesn't really change the base analysis above.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 20, 2025 11:23 AM (ynpvh)

77 72 Hilarious how the Euroweenies keep pushing on stuff that doesn't matter while failing at stuff that does.
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This is SOP for leftist organizations. Be they private or public.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at August 20, 2025 11:22 AM (17s+e)

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"We will fight climate change on the beaches!"
-mayor of landlocked city with unchecked crime

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 20, 2025 11:23 AM (GBKbO)

78 Re the troll (s) who cares? Do what you want, engage or don’t. I just scroll past, but if it floats your boat to engage, not my concern.

Posted by: Farmer ob at August 20, 2025 11:23 AM (hlNLQ)

79 The local county seat had a problem with water supply a few years ago, the aquifer and wells were not sufficient for the water system after they started putting in new subdivisions, and there was need for extra water for the sewage treatment plant.

The solution was water restrictions on things like "automatically providing glasses of water for diners at restaurants"

Posted by: Kindltot at August 20, 2025 11:23 AM (rbvCR)

80 78 Re the troll (s) who cares? Do what you want, engage or don’t. I just scroll past, but if it floats your boat to engage, not my concern.
Posted by: Farmer ob at August 20, 2025 11:23 AM (hlNLQ)

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They get paid for engagement, if they get paid.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 20, 2025 11:23 AM (GBKbO)

81 The Obama Presidential Temple Complex looks like a Temu supervillain lair.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at August 20, 2025 11:24 AM (21iuJ)

82 They could save all of the water they need if they deported all of the illegal mohammedans they have in the country. They would also save the 8 billion pounds per year they are spending to put them up in hotels, provide free cell phones, and the 800 pounds per week per illegal they are handing out in spending money.
Posted by: Thomans Paine at August 20, 2025 11:22 AM (0U5gm)

The mohammedans here don't like toilet paper and prefer bidets. Even jerry-rigged ones in their shops.

That's a LOT of water wastage.

Now if normal Britons use toilet paper, there's another huge water drop to kicking out their soon-to-be conquerors.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 20, 2025 11:25 AM (aPBRN)

83 Is the water fluoridated?

Purity of Essence!!

Posted by: Weasel at August 20, 2025 11:25 AM (TMF5Z)

84 If they are willing to think out of the box a bit, urine is over 90% water.

Posted by: Posted by: Stateless - VERY GRATEFUL, BLESSED, LOVED AND HAPPY! -- - New Life Creation - 18.1% at August 20, 2025 11:26 AM (jvJvP)

85 Where are we going and how'd we get into this handbrake?

https://is.gd/kI9cSB

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at August 20, 2025 11:26 AM (L/fGl)

86 They get paid for engagement, if they get paid.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 20, 2025 11:23 AM (GBKbO)

Same as in town.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 20, 2025 11:26 AM (i24o9)

87 79 The local county seat had a problem with water supply a few years ago, the aquifer and wells were not sufficient for the water system after they started putting in new subdivisions, and there was need for extra water for the sewage treatment plant.

The solution was water restrictions on things like "automatically providing glasses of water for diners at restaurants"

Posted by: Kindltot at August 20, 2025 11:23 AM (rbvCR)

That was fixed in Kalifornia by not providing straws with said water. /sarc

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 20, 2025 11:26 AM (ynpvh)

88 They should use Brawndo instead. Think of how much water that would save!

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 20, 2025 11:26 AM (Dv3i1)

89 80- is that an endorsement or advice to not engage? I mean, if act blue throws away more money trolling here, is that a bad thing? Pretty sure it’s to no or negative effect.

Posted by: Farmer ob at August 20, 2025 11:26 AM (hlNLQ)

90 It's my party and I'll cry if I want to.

Then off to the mass graves.

Posted by: Dreamingrobot at August 20, 2025 11:26 AM (6mfZE)

91 Someone shouted drought so naturally I immediately deleted the Epstein files.

Posted by: Oglebay at August 20, 2025 11:26 AM (2ap+5)

92 Re the troll (s) who cares? Do what you want, engage or don’t. I just scroll past, but if it floats your boat to engage, not my concern.

They want engagement because it means they’re derailing the thread and making people mad. They get paid for engagement. Which is why the rule since USENET in the 1980s has been “Don’t Feed The Trolls”.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 20, 2025 11:27 AM (3cXfB)

93 It exposes the fundamental misunderstanding of policymakers. They don't know how anything works.

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Yet they make decisions about people's lives, economies of countries and the state of the world. It's good to know that I can now ignore them with a clear conscience.

Posted by: Decaf at August 20, 2025 11:27 AM (unUNN)

94 Not that it matters for power or water consumption, but I keep my emails and photos on my own computer disk and back it up with my own backup disk. That storage is non-volatile and needs no cooling or power to be supplied. The stuff just sits there without any help.

Posted by: Ralph at August 20, 2025 11:27 AM (8WZD4)

95 Unintentional sock off

Posted by: Farmer Bob at August 20, 2025 11:27 AM (hlNLQ)

96 88 They should use Brawndo instead. Think of how much water that would save!
Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 20, 2025 11:26 AM (Dv3i1)

Datacenters CRAVE electrolytes!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at August 20, 2025 11:27 AM (xcxpd)

97 89 80- is that an endorsement or advice to not engage? I mean, if act blue throws away more money trolling here, is that a bad thing? Pretty sure it’s to no or negative effect.
Posted by: Farmer ob at August 20, 2025 11:26 AM (hlNLQ)

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Well, CBD asks regularly not to post their droppings.

We're happier when they're not around.

I say, ignore them.

The money wasted on getting some troll to engage here is so minor it doesn't matter. If you want to waste Democrat time and resources, get some paid Democrat campaign worker on the phone and keep them there during critical election times.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 20, 2025 11:28 AM (GBKbO)

98 Government bureaucrats deleting their cloud-storage collections of porn would probably save more than me deleting my emails.

We will drain the reservoirs dry before we allow our collections to expire!

Posted by: Gov't "Investigators" at August 20, 2025 11:28 AM (8pCF2)

99 ‘ It's one of the most laughably stupid things I have seen in a long time.’

Instead of making me think that the British government is stupid, this instead makes me suspicious of their ulterior motives:
Why are they so bent on reducing everyone’s data storage?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 20, 2025 11:28 AM (jbnUc)

100 99 Why are they so bent on reducing everyone’s data storage?
Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 20, 2025 11:28 AM (jbnUc)

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If they were bent on it, they'd be forcing people to deleting stuff, not throwing it at the end of a list like this.

What they're bent on is getting backdoor access to your data, like with the Apple fight.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 20, 2025 11:29 AM (GBKbO)

101 Think of how much water they could save if they increased the pressure in their bicycle tires.

Posted by: Operator Error at August 20, 2025 11:29 AM (1B4JM)

102 Not that it matters for power or water consumption, but I keep my emails and photos on my own computer disk

I always kept my email server bathtub half full. I mean, it was vodka, but still!

Posted by: Hillary! at August 20, 2025 11:30 AM (8pCF2)

103 We've always given our leaders more trust than they deserved. We're just far more aware of it now.

Posted by: Crusader at August 20, 2025 11:30 AM (TN0g+)

104 There are reports that in some states, N.J. for example, new data centers are using so much electricity at cut rates that the residential customers are having to pick up the slack, financially. Some are claiming their electric bills climbing by 2x or even 3x the highest they've every had. One woman in N.J. showed a copy of her latest electric bill; $1300 and change.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 20, 2025 11:30 AM (Q4IgG)

105 is that an endorsement or advice to not engage? I mean, if act blue throws away more money trolling here, is that a bad thing? Pretty sure it’s to no or negative effect.

Posted by: Farmer ob at August 20, 2025 11:26 AM (hlNLQ)

I understand that the base motivation to avoid engagement is that if/when COBs have to clean up the mess, it is more work to clean up everyone's C&P of troll-droppings.

That said, not everyone is here 24/7 and knows which new trolls are trolls.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 20, 2025 11:30 AM (i24o9)

106 Yes, that's always the first regulation, the water glass in restaurants. Foolish, nanny-state nonsense. How about not washing the dishes, pots and pans?

Posted by: Food-borne Illness, FTW! at August 20, 2025 11:31 AM (G5+As)

107 Instead of making me think that the British government is stupid, this instead makes me suspicious of their ulterior motives:
Why are they so bent on reducing everyone’s data storage?
Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 20, 2025 11:28 AM (jbnUc)

Hey, did you know it is the 80'th anniversary of the release of Animal Farm?

Posted by: Kindltot at August 20, 2025 11:31 AM (rbvCR)

108 Ugh. Yeah. Water shortages in the UK are like the old joke about the government running out of sand in the Sahara. We're a really rainy island with a temperate climate.

The #1 cause of water shortages by far is the water companies (privatised and thoroughly asset-stripped) themselves. They lose an obscene amount of water through pipe leaks, because maintaining infrastructure is so much more difficult and costly (and so bad for profits and shareholder dividends) than telling the peasants to use less of the product that THEY PAY THROUGH THE NOSE FOR.

We need hangings. So many hangings.

Posted by: Limey at August 20, 2025 11:31 AM (WLWzm)

109 105 That said, not everyone is here 24/7 and knows which new trolls are trolls.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 20, 2025 11:30 AM (i24o9)

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Well, the one guy who keeps talking about his yummy shit pebbles?

That guy is a troll who just wants to eat his own shit.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 20, 2025 11:31 AM (GBKbO)

110 Deleting anything from the cloud doesn't mean it's gone for good.

Most likely there's a backup floating around somewhere (just in case) or for retention policies.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 20, 2025 11:32 AM (7fElN)

111 Datacenters are soulless places. Yech.

Posted by: Bulg at August 20, 2025 11:32 AM (77rzZ)

112 And so, it begins.

Five Former Wisconsin Women’s Basketball Players Suing Former Coach for Alleged Mental Abuse

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at August 20, 2025 11:32 AM (L/fGl)

113 Well, the one guy who keeps talking about his yummy shit pebbles?

That guy is a troll who just wants to eat his own shit.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 20, 2025 11:31 AM (GBKbO)

Yeah, I know. But I am here 24/7ish.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 20, 2025 11:32 AM (i24o9)

114 53 I'm convinced he's real, and he's Indian.

The story about the Indian truck driver got him real incensed.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 20, 2025 11:17 AM (GBKbO)

Not enough "Please do the Needful, Saar."

Posted by: XTC at August 20, 2025 11:32 AM (UnA8+)

115 76 Datacenters, like quite a few buildings, use humidification systems to keep the humidity a nominal levels, so this water will mostly be lost over some short period of time (perhaps days). I guess the easiest way to know is to look at their water bills.

Doesn't really change the base analysis above.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
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England has a two week rule of no rainfall (.008 inches or less) for declaring a drought. Persistent higher than normal temperatures in UK lead to less rainfall due to the air holding more moisture than normal climate conditions. Apparently it is a fairly common occurrence.

Posted by: whig at August 20, 2025 11:33 AM (ctrM5)

116 Well, as I said, I don’t engage, and I’m fine with the cobs deleting them and folks reporting them . Don’t particularly care for the hall monitor lectures and certainly not concerned about derailing threads (boobs!) As for the money, sure,I actually do that, otoh, the “negligible amount” argument is the same as the one made for every cut to the federal budget. Gotta start somewhere.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at August 20, 2025 11:33 AM (hlNLQ)

117 Five Former Wisconsin Women’s Basketball Players Suing Former Coach for Alleged Mental Abuse
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at August 20, 2025 11:32 AM (L/fGl)

Let me guess, the coach said that they sucked and it made them question their lesbianism?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 20, 2025 11:33 AM (ExV1e)

118 It happens all the time but remains a fascinating phenomenon - we win the battle against green energy mandates and the market immediately makes them competitive.

Posted by: Oglebay at August 20, 2025 11:33 AM (2ap+5)

119 Oh, and you can put 'not building any f*ckin reservoirs' under that same malfeasance heading, too.

Posted by: Limey at August 20, 2025 11:34 AM (WLWzm)

120 Flush twice, it's a long way to Tipperary.

Posted by: torabora at August 20, 2025 11:34 AM (iINsI)

121 I don't engage trolls except to call them names. It's my only outlet since we can't do it to regulars.

Posted by: polynikes at August 20, 2025 11:34 AM (EYmYM)

122 Sat 9/13. Mark your calendars.

Tommy Robinson is calling for a massive rally in London. So far, this is flying under the radar of Media. It could get sporty.

Robinson you'll recall has been jailed for expressing his beliefs deemed by his British betters to be hate speech.

He's being joined by Ant Middleton, an SAS guy and Local Hero who's already amping it to eleventy. Sounds Insurrectiony to me. Cue up the Braveheart freedom speech.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 20, 2025 11:34 AM (dtajH)

123 My county legislature has authorized $50k to help pay for our acting county clerk's fight against Texas. A Dr in my county mailed abort drugs to a woman in Texas. Texas fined the Dr $100k but our acting clerk has refused to enter the judgement citing NY 's pro abortion statute protecting providers.
My county has been overrun by the hard left over the last 20 years. We get to deal with this crap

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 20, 2025 11:34 AM (so5nu)

124 Hilarious how the Euroweenies keep pushing on stuff that doesn't matter while failing at stuff that does.
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This is SOP for leftist organizations. Be they private or public.
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Yep. Its like Decatur Georgia taking a position on Gaza while failing to fix the potholes in their streets.

Posted by: Crusader at August 20, 2025 11:34 AM (TN0g+)

125 DNC Chair Calls For Government Shutdown to Fight “Fascist in the White House”

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There are none so blind as they who will Nazi.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at August 20, 2025 11:36 AM (L/fGl)

126 And so, it begins.

Five Former Wisconsin Women’s Basketball Players Suing Former Coach for Alleged Mental Abuse
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at August 20, 2025 11:32 AM (L/fGl

His lawyers answer to the suit should include Calm Down.

Posted by: polynikes at August 20, 2025 11:36 AM (EYmYM)

127 >>Trump Opens Another Deportation Facility Callled The "Cornhusker Clink"

Cornhole was already taken ?

Posted by: Operator Error at August 20, 2025 11:37 AM (1B4JM)

128 125 DNC Chair Calls For Government Shutdown to Fight “Fascist in the White House”

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There are none so blind as they who will Nazi.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at August 20, 2025 11:36 AM (L/fGl)

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With the CR process finished and a return to regular budgetary order, Trump can kill a WHOLE lot more stuff in a budget shutdown.

So...good luck.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 20, 2025 11:37 AM (GBKbO)

129 Cornhusker Clink >>>>> Cornhusker Kickback

Posted by: Bulg at August 20, 2025 11:37 AM (77rzZ)

130 Why are they so bent on reducing everyone’s data storage?
Posted by: Dr. Claw

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It saves 5 eyes time spent searching through everyone's data if the meaningless items are deleted.

Posted by: Thomans Paine at August 20, 2025 11:38 AM (0U5gm)

131 "We won't appropriate any funds!"
-Democrats

"Okay."
-Trump, shutting down entire departments

"Wait! I didn't think there would be consequences!"
-Democrats

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 20, 2025 11:38 AM (GBKbO)

132 Back in the 90s before we escaped Califzuela -- and they were even having rolling brownouts then -- they were asking people to restrict flushing of toilets.

And then after two decades of separating trash from recyclables, we learned that waste management was
simply dumping all the recyclables in the landfill with everything else.

It's fake and gay fraud and scams all the way down ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2028 -- One King To Rule Them All! at August 20, 2025 11:38 AM (lMOMR)

133 Still waiting for the cable company.

I have "The Price is Right" on Roku with Bob Barker.

Boy, the female contestants were attractive. All dressed up. Looking good.

Posted by: Posted by: Stateless - VERY GRATEFUL, BLESSED, LOVED AND HAPPY! -- - New Life Creation - 18.1% at August 20, 2025 11:38 AM (jvJvP)

134 With Trump making it politically acceptable to mass deport people, it'll be interesting to see if English politics changes in that direction as well.

Foreigners tearing down English flags in England probably won't make things better.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 20, 2025 11:16 AM (GBKbO)

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These ideas tend to be contagious. People see other countries doing something better and demand their own governments do the same. Eventually it becomes the norm, I hope.

Posted by: Decaf at August 20, 2025 11:39 AM (unUNN)

135 The story about the Indian truck driver got him real incensed.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

they invade to take jobs on H1B visas and kill people.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 20, 2025 11:39 AM (+zn87)

136 I understand about not wanting to cool the hardware with salt water, but you could heat sink a closed loop in the ocean... or along a huge tunnel under it.

I suppose there is always risk of leaking which doesn't make it a good idea.

Posted by: Inogame at August 20, 2025 11:39 AM (53oGX)

137 SCOTUS has ruled England cannot import fewer people because of a water shortage there.
AND they told the City of Davis, California that they had to expand their city utilities to service as many people as can be crammed in there.

Posted by: torabora at August 20, 2025 11:40 AM (iINsI)

138
I'm convinced he's real, and he's Indian.

The story about the Indian truck driver got him real incensed.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Interesting. Trolling is becoming a losing proposition as a job as troll bots are probably the wave of the future.

Posted by: whig at August 20, 2025 11:41 AM (ctrM5)

139 I've been at the forefront of blaming Sir Thomas Crapper for this whole water shortage thing.

Posted by: Flush With Success at August 20, 2025 11:41 AM (G5+As)

140 Posted by: Inogame at August 20, 2025 11:39 AM (53oGX)

Tow in an iceberg.

Posted by: polynikes at August 20, 2025 11:41 AM (EYmYM)

141 I saw Yummy Shit Pebbles open for Hole at the Bowery Ballroom in 95

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 20, 2025 11:41 AM (so5nu)

142 Yep. Its like Decatur Georgia taking a position on Gaza while failing to fix the potholes in their streets.
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Local example; female councilman tried to push through law that grocery stores in the city limits can only sell free range chickens and eggs from free range chickens. This is despite not having all of our other problems in the city being solved yet.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 20, 2025 11:41 AM (Dv3i1)

143 Yeah. It's like a troll and what? He wants to change me.

Shazam. Already changed my own mind.
Now I'm on your side.
Will you take me to your home?

Posted by: Dreamingrobot at August 20, 2025 11:41 AM (6mfZE)

144 138 Interesting. Trolling is becoming a losing proposition as a job as troll bots are probably the wave of the future.
Posted by: whig at August 20, 2025 11:41 AM (ctrM5)

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His thing is one comment and then gone.

That story, he commented 4 or 5 times, reacting to people.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 20, 2025 11:42 AM (GBKbO)

145 127 >>Trump Opens Another Deportation Facility Callled The "Cornhusker Clink"

Cornhole was already taken ?
Posted by: Operator Error at August 20, 2025 11:37 AM (1B4JM)

Stuffed full

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at August 20, 2025 11:42 AM (xcxpd)

146 There are reports that in some states, N.J. for example, new data centers are using so much electricity at cut rates that the residential customers are having to pick up the slack, financially. Some are claiming their electric bills climbing by 2x or even 3x the highest they've every had. One woman in N.J. showed a copy of her latest electric bill; $1300 and change.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 20, 2025 11:30 AM (Q4IgG)

I have a 5 ton AC unit and keep the house cold enough to hang meat, and my bill isn't a 1/3 of that. Some people are getting fucked. I wonder if its a blue area thing, or maybe a different service. We do have a few different electric companies.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 20, 2025 11:42 AM (snZF9)

147 The problem with England copying Trump and massive deportations is that it's idiotic leadership thinks the invasion is wonderful

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 20, 2025 11:43 AM (so5nu)

148 The normies in the UK have finally woken up and noticed what a state we're in. There are protests all across the country, mass England/UK flag raising, a tidal wave of anger.

Mass deportation has very much entered the chat.

Thank God Trump turned his head in that instant.

Posted by: Limey at August 20, 2025 11:43 AM (WLWzm)

149 I have "The Price is Right" on Roku with Bob Barker.

Boy, the female contestants were attractive. All dressed up. Looking good.

Posted by: Posted by: Stateless - VERY GRATEFUL, BLESSED, LOVED AND HAPPY! -- - New Life Creation - 18.1%

$20, same as in town?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at August 20, 2025 11:43 AM (L/fGl)

150
I have "The Price is Right" on Roku with Bob Barker.

Boy, the female contestants were attractive. All dressed up. Looking good.
Posted by: Posted by: Stateless

And thin.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 20, 2025 11:44 AM (63Dwl)

151 Disposing of family photos seems totally in line with encouraging dissolution of the family.
I don't think it was put in there by accident.

Posted by: From about That Time at August 20, 2025 11:44 AM (/MW9e)

152 There are reports that in some states, N.J. for example, new data centers are using so much electricity at cut rates that the residential customers are having to pick up the slack, financially. Some are claiming their electric bills climbing by 2x or even 3x the highest they've every had. One woman in N.J. showed a copy of her latest electric bill; $1300 and change.

Posted by: Martini Farmer

Remember when New York and other eastern states denied permission for new natural gas pipelines? Good times.

Posted by: Thomans Paine at August 20, 2025 11:44 AM (0U5gm)

153 >>Why are they so bent on reducing everyone’s data storage?

It's not about data storage. It's about data.

There is an underground movement in the UK to replace the rainbow and Palestinian flags being put up by the government with St George's Cross flags. And as soon as they are put up the UK government takes them down.

Why would the government take down their own flag? Same reason our government allowed statues of our founders and heroes to be torn down. Same reason they renamed our military bases. Same reason the tried to ram the 1619 crap down our throats.

It is literally right out of the communist playbook. Erase history and replace it with one that supports the narrative. We are in the process of pulling out of that nose dive. The UK and the rest of the EU are still spiraling into the ground.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 20, 2025 11:44 AM (viF8m)

154 Five Former Wisconsin Women’s Basketball Players Suing Former Coach for Alleged Mental Abuse
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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Wait until they get a load of me!

Posted by: flyin' green dildo at August 20, 2025 11:44 AM (EFZgU)

155 The problem with England copying Trump and massive deportations is that it's idiotic leadership thinks the invasion is wonderful
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Their leadership organized and abetted it.

Posted by: Crusader at August 20, 2025 11:44 AM (TN0g+)

156 I have "The Price is Right" on Roku with Bob Barker.

Boy, the female contestants were attractive. All dressed up. Looking good.

Posted by: Posted by: Stateless

Find the one with Vanna White as a contestant from 1980. Very cute and her first time on TV.

Posted by: Barker's Beauties Fan at August 20, 2025 11:44 AM (G5+As)

157 147 The problem with England copying Trump and massive deportations is that it's idiotic leadership thinks the invasion is wonderful
Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 20, 2025 11:43 AM (so5nu)

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1. Us, like, 6 years ago.

2. All change (save for further descents into dystopian hellscape) in England will require another general election. 4 years away at the latest (I seriously doubt any snap election between now and then).

That's a long time for Labour to fly their freak flag high and proud and taunt normie Britons.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 20, 2025 11:44 AM (GBKbO)

158 Posted by: polynikes at August 20, 2025 11:34 AM (EYmYM)

Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at August 20, 2025 11:45 AM (L5An7)

159 @149 $19.99

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 20, 2025 11:45 AM (so5nu)

160 I suppose there is always risk of leaking which doesn't make it a good idea.

Posted by: Inogame at August 20, 2025 11:39 AM (53oGX)

It's done on ships all the time, monitoring the closed loop for salinity. That said, coast lines, at least Pacific coast lines, have seismic activity problems which could make such costly to implement, over the time tested method of just pumping cool seawater in and hot seawater out in a separate cooling loop that cools the first cooling loop.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 20, 2025 11:45 AM (i24o9)

161 I moved to a new community that applies a mud tax for water and sewage to pay for the operation of the facility. 1.4%. . I'll probably be gone before there are enough homes built in the community before it starts going down.

That said my water bill is only $30.

Posted by: polynikes at August 20, 2025 11:45 AM (EYmYM)

162 And then after two decades of separating trash from recyclables, we learned that waste management was
simply dumping all the recyclables in the landfill with everything else.

It's fake and gay fraud and scams all the way down ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2028 -- One King To Rule Them All! at August 20, 2025 11:38 AM

When we lived in CT our town wouldn't pick up our trash from the curb one time and threatened to fine us because they saw "recyclables" in the trash can. They said if it happened one more time they would have to issue us a fine. Come to find out even when we separated all of our recycle stuff they had switched to single stream recycling because it was cheaper for the town. Turns out single stream recycling meant it all was going into the trash and nothing was getting recycled.

The kicker with that was you still had to separate your recycle stuff from the trash even after they admitted everything was going into the same trash pile.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 20, 2025 11:45 AM (0N4FZ)

163 Most NE cities are very protective of heating fuel distributors and very anti-natural gas for some reason.

Posted by: pudinhead at August 20, 2025 11:45 AM (W3T6M)

164 at 9/13. Mark your calendars.

Tommy Robinson is calling for a massive rally in London

Giving the british Evil Overlords 23 days to set up a plan against this is a bad idea. He should be thinking "flash mobs" instead.

Posted by: Chuck C at August 20, 2025 11:46 AM (D0HYP)

165 Maybe computers have changed but it used to be that "erasing your files" didn't actually erase anything. It's all still there, just indexed as empty space when the computer needs to write something new.

Posted by: fozzy at August 20, 2025 11:46 AM (zH2yS)

166 148 The normies in the UK have finally woken up and noticed what a state we're in. There are protests all across the country, mass England/UK flag raising, a tidal wave of anger.

Mass deportation has very much entered the chat.

Thank God Trump turned his head in that instant.
Posted by: Limey at August 20, 2025 11:43 AM (WLWzm)

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They realized more than a decade ago, predating Brexit. Everything happening since has just made the awakening more acute.

The problem was that their political leadership was even more entrenched with hating normie Britons than ours was against us pre-Trump.

Remember, the Labour Party, up until five minutes ago, was the MODERATE party regarding immigration. The CP was far more open about importing the third world.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 20, 2025 11:46 AM (GBKbO)

167 136 I understand about not wanting to cool the hardware with salt water, but you could heat sink a closed loop in the ocean... or along a huge tunnel under it.

I suppose there is always risk of leaking which doesn't make it a good idea.

Posted by: Inogame

Ground loop closed heat pump systems are actually very efficient at heating and cooling as the temperature stays fairly constant below the frost line. Downside is the closed loops require a fair amount of land for the heat exchanging loops or you have to go deep with them.

Open loops with matched wells are easier if you have a place with topography and aquifers allow that. One is pumped out with the water used as coolant/heat and then pumped down into the other well. Another is to use a large reservoir like a pond to as the open loop or closed loop heat sink/source.

That being said, air heatpump units are increasingly efficient in ac/heat usage which usually makes them a cheaper choice in a lot of use cases.

Posted by: whig at August 20, 2025 11:47 AM (ctrM5)

168 @157 TJM, the longer the taunting goes on the bigger the chance of a very nasty blow up

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 20, 2025 11:47 AM (so5nu)

169 Coming soon: The Drip Squad.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 20, 2025 11:47 AM (skOp5)

170 The CP was far more open about importing the third world.
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The CP and the GOPe were sympatico.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 20, 2025 11:47 AM (Dv3i1)

171
Remember when New York and other eastern states denied permission for new natural gas pipelines? Good times.
Posted by: Thomans Paine

NYS could be a fracking/oil powerhouse. Pennsylvania is sucking the gold right out from under them. Assholes!

Posted by: Excelsior! at August 20, 2025 11:47 AM (G5+As)

172 What?!!! The muzzle illegal immigrants are bringing their desert with them?!!!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at August 20, 2025 11:47 AM (L/fGl)

173 Find the one with Vanna White as a contestant from 1980. Very cute and her first time on TV.

Posted by: Barker's Beauties Fan at August 20, 2025 11:44 AM (G5+As)

Really?

That's pretty cool.

I just like stuff in the background that won't tick me off. That's getting harder and harder to find.

Posted by: Posted by: Stateless - VERY GRATEFUL, BLESSED, LOVED AND HAPPY! -- - New Life Creation - 18.1% at August 20, 2025 11:47 AM (jvJvP)

174 Don't drink the heavy water. Just don't.

Posted by: torabora at August 20, 2025 11:48 AM (iINsI)

175 I guess we've got to take care when watering the data center.

Posted by: 13times at August 20, 2025 11:48 AM (6iKlf)

176 Giving the british Evil Overlords 23 days to set up a plan against this is a bad idea. He should be thinking "flash mobs" instead.
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Learn from the J6er's - don't carry a cell phone.

Posted by: pudinhead at August 20, 2025 11:49 AM (W3T6M)

177 Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at August 20, 2025 11:45 AM (L5An7)

Small cute animal adored by children and a fruit with a pleasant smell and great as a jam.

I'll take it.

Posted by: polynikes at August 20, 2025 11:49 AM (EYmYM)

178 168 @157 TJM, the longer the taunting goes on the bigger the chance of a very nasty blow up
Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 20, 2025 11:47 AM (so5nu)

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Labour has a majority of 278 seats in the House of Commons. 398 Labour to 120 Conservative (and then assorted smaller parties like Reform with 4).

Labour will not be able to stop the taunting. They have WAY too many crazies driving things in Parliament to even think about moderating the government's behavior through the Prime Minister.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 20, 2025 11:49 AM (GBKbO)

179 Local example; female councilman tried to push through law that grocery stores in the city limits can only sell free range chickens and eggs from free range chickens. This is despite not having all of our other problems in the city being solved yet.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 20, 2025 11:41 AM (Dv3i1)
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Free chickens and eggs to cook on the range. What's not to like?

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 20, 2025 11:49 AM (skOp5)

180 Depending on source: United Kingdom Data Centers
We currently have 479 data centers listed, from 78 markets in United Kingdom (UK).

England has the large majority of them.

The UK has a growing number of data centers across various regions, including Yorkshire, Cumbria, Lancashire, Greater Manchester, Merseyside, Cheshire, the East Midlands, and the West Midlands. These areas are seeing significant investment in data center infrastructure due to factors like proximity to major population centers, availability of suitable land, and access to power and connectivity.

>BBC, Data centres to be expanded across UK as concerns mount, 5 days ago
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The people live under so many environment laws, and that list is ever expanding, they most often comply (especially outside of cities) for national interests.

In the meantime, there are falling farms numbers with small farms disappearing. Also, BBC, 'Uncertain future for small abattoirs as costs rise' 26 May 2025

(Though it's meant to be entertaining & features someone with no previous farm experience, Clarkson's Farm touches on some of what the country & farmers face.)

The Data Centers will be victorious.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at August 20, 2025 11:49 AM (NFX2v)

181 There are just as many fucking hacks in politics as there are in the trades and engineering.

They should be laughed at and pointed out at every opportunity.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at August 20, 2025 11:49 AM (/vPt3)

182 Mario Mieli wrote "Towards a Gay Communism".

But nobody's writing "Towards a Gay Islam".

Posted by: XTC at August 20, 2025 11:50 AM (UnA8+)

183 England will probably get J sixed.

Posted by: Dreamingrobot at August 20, 2025 11:50 AM (6mfZE)

184 What are the odds that the rich and those in power will follow the advice handed down to the peasants?

Posted by: Case at August 20, 2025 11:51 AM (iwlvf)

185 Islam is already gay.

Posted by: Bulg at August 20, 2025 11:51 AM (77rzZ)

186 Hilarious how the Euroweenies keep pushing on stuff that doesn't matter while failing at stuff that does.
Weird to see all the EU leadership at the WH talking about the threat of Putin's military while allowing into their countries millions of Muslim 'immigrants' that refuse to assimilate the culture or respect the history of their host country.
It's almost like forming a neighborhood watch group to protect the area from Hell's Angels while allowing an MS-13 cell to operate out of your basement.
But whatever, the cradle of Western Democracy, the Enlightenment, the Reformation and the Industrial Revolution is dying.
Posted by: proudvastrightwingguy at August 20, 2025 11:17 AM (Ovc06)

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No less crazy of these Euros than relying on Russia for oil and gas while asking Trump to save them and Ukraine from Putin. They have all regressed into early childhood.

Posted by: Decaf at August 20, 2025 11:51 AM (unUNN)

187 They're putting in a data center on the Columbia River. Damn thing is huge and looks like something from the Borg. A.bit disconcerting.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 20, 2025 11:51 AM (2WIwB)

188 It’s called a genocide, and it’s happening against the Anglican/British people perpetrated by the globalist demons that run their country.

Posted by: Cray Cray at August 20, 2025 11:52 AM (NXCih)

189 188 It’s called a genocide, and it’s happening against the Anglican/British people perpetrated by the globalist demons that run their country.
Posted by: Cray Cray at August 20, 2025 11:52 AM (NXCih)

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In the course of human events...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 20, 2025 11:52 AM (GBKbO)

190 Whatever, Dude: Tim McBride Whines About Being Referred to as 'Transgender'

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Take heart, Butch! You'll always be a dumb c*nt to me.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at August 20, 2025 11:52 AM (L/fGl)

191 They're putting in a data center on the Columbia River. Damn thing is huge and looks like something from the Borg. A.bit disconcerting.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 20, 2025 11:51 AM (2WIwB)

They've got one here, in an old timber mill building, right next to a major river. It is a more than a bit out of place, except for the cheap power and easy cooling.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 20, 2025 11:53 AM (i24o9)

192 California had a brand new desalination plant that cost them hundreds of millions that the never used. They ended up selling it for parts for Pennie's house n the dollar. Then they had another multi year drought.

Posted by: polynikes at August 20, 2025 11:53 AM (EYmYM)

193 His thing is one comment and then gone.

That story, he commented 4 or 5 times, reacting to people.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Troll farm employee or a tech industry kibitzer that is spending all their day online anyway.

Posted by: whig at August 20, 2025 11:53 AM (ctrM5)

194 (LifeSiteNews) — A 54-year-old daycare worker at Little Blessings Child Care in Bainbridge, Georgia, has been arrested after allegedly beating a toddler.

The employee, Yvette Thurston, was arrested on August 11 and faces three charges of first-degree child abuse and one charge of first-degree aggravated battery. The child, a one-year-old boy named Clay, was beaten badly enough to require treatment at a nearby hospital.

The story went viral when his father, U.S. Marine Cory Weeks, shared photographs on Facebook, leading to widespread community outrage. Initially, Little Blessings Child Care attempted to pass off the injuries as the result of an altercation with another toddler over a toy.

Surveillance footage, however, allegedly shows Thurston savagely beating the child,

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 20, 2025 11:54 AM (Dv3i1)

195 Islam is already gay.
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And fake.

Posted by: Crusader at August 20, 2025 11:54 AM (TN0g+)

196 Coach: "Calm your tits!"
Woman Bball enthusiast: "But I don't have any tits!"

WNBA scout: Takes notes.

Posted by: pawn at August 20, 2025 11:54 AM (uj3zf)

197 Autocorrect is the devil and I'm a lazy idiot for never proofreading.

Posted by: polynikes at August 20, 2025 11:54 AM (EYmYM)

198 100
‘ If they were bent on it, they'd be forcing people to deleting stuff, not throwing it at the end of a list like this.’

I think that they are introducing it here (and eventually elsewhere)in order to condition their public into thinking that data is a problem that needs a government solution.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 20, 2025 11:54 AM (jbnUc)

199 They have all regressed into early childhood.

Posted by: Decaf at August 20, 2025 11:51 AM (unUNN)

Italy is clawing itself back from the brink (maybe), but every other western European country is fundamentally unserious.

The last was probably West Germany, and before that? France under de Gaulle, and then WWII Great Britain under Churchill.

What a pathetic record of failure!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at August 20, 2025 11:54 AM (L5An7)

200 RE: the Columbia River site, it will be interesting to see how it affects the temp of the river water down stream, an issue that was pointed out when Hanford was operational.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 20, 2025 11:55 AM (2WIwB)

201 Good chance November 5th will be wild in Old Blighty. Guy Fawkes Day.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 20, 2025 11:55 AM (gm9Sb)

202 Sacramento County operates the world's largest turd plant. Per EPA discharge has to be drinking water quality.
Half goes into Sacramento River and half to public greenbelt.
They use LOX and bacteria to clean up the water. No, it doesn't stink. It's not cheap, about $75 month per residence. $2 billion capital cost. They managed to sequester acreage for critters so developers can't get at it.

Posted by: torabora at August 20, 2025 11:55 AM (iINsI)

203 Whatever, Dude: Tim McBride Whines About Being Referred to as 'Transgender'

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Take heart, Butch! You'll always be a dumb c*nt to me.
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How stupid do the people of Delaware have to be to elect a dude in makeup and a dress?

Posted by: Crusader at August 20, 2025 11:56 AM (TN0g+)

204 Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 20, 2025 11:54 AM (Dv3i1)

Vigilante justice is a terrible thing, and I would never suggest that is what Yvette Thurston deserves.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at August 20, 2025 11:56 AM (L5An7)

205 185 Islam is already gay.
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Whoa! Not fair! Sometimes we do the female goats!

Posted by: Mohammed M. Mohammed at August 20, 2025 11:56 AM (Dv3i1)

206 Polynikes mother probably smelled more like apple cured turkey and pepperoni.

But honestly, why are we talking about what Polynikes mother smelled like?

Don't we have bigger fish to fry?

Posted by: eleven at August 20, 2025 11:56 AM (fV+MH)

207 How stupid do the people of Delaware have to be to elect a dude in makeup and a dress?

Posted by: Crusader at August 20, 2025 11:56 AM (TN0g+)

Exhibit 1: Biden clan.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 20, 2025 11:56 AM (i24o9)

208 Any sort of genocide is being foisted on the public is often by their own selfish and often self-destructive habits, needs, desires, whatever.

The rush to embrace AI for all things that require thinking or talent, while sapping our power grids for it, is certainly self destructive. The payout isn't worth it.

But I presume we'll find out soon enough...

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 20, 2025 11:56 AM (Q4IgG)

209 Yes the Left doesn't care when the Leftist tech giants dam up rivers to generate power but they will demand other dams be tore down because of Native American fishing might be affected.

Posted by: polynikes at August 20, 2025 11:57 AM (EYmYM)

210 Surveillance footage, however, allegedly shows Thurston savagely beating the child,

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 20, 2025 11:54 AM (Dv3i1)

Do not view if you do not want to go postal.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 20, 2025 11:57 AM (i24o9)

211 The last two times I was in CostCo I noticed they have Halloween stuff for sale. WTF buys Halloween stuff in August?

Posted by: pudinhead at August 20, 2025 11:58 AM (W3T6M)

212 Cornhusker Clink is SO much cuter than McCook Work Ethic Camp!

Meanwhile: ACLU Statement on Trump Administration Plan to Use New Jersey Military Base to Detain Immigrants
The Trump administration plans to use New Jersey’s Fort Dix to detain 1000 people who are non-citizens, drastically escalating its use of the U.S. military to carry out its cruel anti-immigrant agenda. July 25, 2025

OTOH: In 2021, 2022, approximately 11,000 Afghan refugees were temporarily housed at Joint Base McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst (formerly Fort Dix) in New Jersey as part of Operation Allies Welcome following the withdrawal of US forces from Afghanistan, according to news reports.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at August 20, 2025 11:58 AM (NFX2v)

213 188 It’s called a genocide, and it’s happening against the Anglican/British people perpetrated by the globalist demons that run their country.
Posted by: Cray Cray at August 20, 2025 11:52 AM (NXCih)

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In the course of human events...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 20, 2025 11:52 AM (GBKbO)

Man, no shit. They're going to need to reproduce our concord bridge moment.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 20, 2025 11:58 AM (snZF9)

214 >> Native American fishing might be affected.

You mean Snagging / Poaching.

Posted by: garrett at August 20, 2025 11:58 AM (Z1dZR)

215 203 How stupid do the people of Delaware have to be to elect a dude in makeup and a dress?
Posted by: Crusader at August 20, 2025 11:56 AM (TN0g+)

They'll elect anything as long as there's a (D) next to the name.

Posted by: XTC at August 20, 2025 11:58 AM (UnA8+)

216 Another laughable example of our 'elites' wagging their ever so educated finger at us knuckle draggers..

Cooling systems for data centers are completely closed loop cycling with endless recirculation of the same fluid being heated and cooled.

Why do we even give these idiots a moment of attention?

Posted by: melodicmetal1 at August 20, 2025 11:58 AM (6qZ4+)

217 The last two times I was in CostCo I noticed they have Halloween stuff for sale. WTF buys Halloween stuff in August?
Posted by: pudinhead at August 20, 2025 11:58 AM (W3T6M)
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I noticed that on my last trip to Walmart.

School hadn't even started yet.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 20, 2025 11:59 AM (7fElN)

218 "The last two times I was in CostCo I noticed they have Halloween stuff for sale. WTF buys Halloween stuff in August?
Posted by: pudinhead"

Chicks, man.

Posted by: eleven at August 20, 2025 11:59 AM (fV+MH)

219 Half of the water dumped from Lake Oroville is for cooling the river because the fish like cool water. Holds more oxygen.
No, the fish do not vote. Yet.

Posted by: torabora at August 20, 2025 12:00 PM (iINsI)

220 Gavin Newscum thinks he's Trump.

https://is.gd/Vst2P5

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at August 20, 2025 12:00 PM (L/fGl)

221 England is a fag country.

Posted by: Archie Bunker at August 20, 2025 12:00 PM (8N6G1)

222 Many years ago my oldest brother was driving us around in the ‘72 Dodge Dart. At some point, the gas gauge became an issue. In a moment of panic, he suddenly reached over and turned off the factory installed AM Radio.

“What are you doing!!?” Much hilarity ensued.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 20, 2025 12:01 PM (IPxF/)

223 200 RE: the Columbia River site, it will be interesting to see how it affects the temp of the river water down stream, an issue that was pointed out when Hanford was operational.
Posted by: Diogenes

Some of the best fishing in the lower Hudson River was in the effluent of the Indian Point Power Plant before it was shut down.

Posted by: Nukular Striped Bass! at August 20, 2025 12:01 PM (G5+As)

224 No, the fish do not vote. Yet.
Posted by: torabora at August 20, 2025 12:00 PM (iINsI)

That's because they're still in school.

Posted by: polynikes at August 20, 2025 12:01 PM (EYmYM)

225 If they have Halloween shit on the shelves then that supply chain backlog isn't happening.

Posted by: torabora at August 20, 2025 12:01 PM (iINsI)

226 Initially, Little Blessings Child Care attempted to pass off the injuries as the result of an altercation with another toddler over a toy.

Institutional cover-up rears its ugly head.

No matter how miniscule the organization, the first mandate is to cover up, never own up.

Posted by: kallisto at August 20, 2025 12:01 PM (dCxaZ)

227 222 Hey, we're running low on gas and the next station is 20 miles away. Step on it".

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 20, 2025 12:02 PM (gm9Sb)

228 The Trump administration plans to use New Jersey’s Fort Dix to detain 1000 people who are non-citizens, drastically escalating its use of the U.S. military to carry out its cruel anti-immigrant agenda. July 25, 2025

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at August 20, 2025 11:58 AM (NFX2v)

Shit, there goes the neighborhood. The upside is its pretty much the pine barrens. If they escape nobody will ever find the body.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 20, 2025 12:02 PM (snZF9)

229 225 If they have Halloween shit on the shelves then that supply chain backlog isn't happening.
Posted by: torabora at August 20, 2025 12:01 PM (iINsI)

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We saw a few Christmas things at Coscto last weekend.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 20, 2025 12:02 PM (GBKbO)

230 The rush to embrace AI for all things that require thinking or talent, while sapping our power grids for it, is certainly self destructive. The payout isn't worth it.
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I'm amazed at how many otherwise normal people have blindspots of AI. There's a fitness guru who legitimately understands and teaches fitness, but in the middle of a two hour interview urged his audience to tell AI everything about their goals and priorities and then regularly bounce new ideas off of AI so that AI could "hold them accountable" about whether their "new" thoughts were compatible with their "goals and priorities". I was aghast, not just because of the terrible things AI could do with this highly private info, but instead because this "normal" guru couldn't understand that he had just substituted AI for....God...that's the point of prayer, and a relationship with God--to search for what is important and ask for discernment from God as to what is truly important.

Posted by: Crusader at August 20, 2025 12:02 PM (TN0g+)

231 Gavin Newscum thinks he's Trump.

https://is.gd/Vst2P5

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at August 20, 2025 12:00 PM (L/fGl)

Political assassinations are funny? FFS, leftists. Never change.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 20, 2025 12:02 PM (i24o9)

232 "England is a fag country.
Posted by: Archie Bunker"

That never stopped them.

Posted by: eleven at August 20, 2025 12:02 PM (fV+MH)

233 Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 20, 2025 12:02 PM (snZF9)

The Jersey Devil will get them.

Posted by: polynikes at August 20, 2025 12:03 PM (EYmYM)

234 omg that she-beast wailed out on that child

holy fvk, don't these subhumans know that daycares are under surveillance now?

Posted by: kallisto at August 20, 2025 12:03 PM (dCxaZ)

235 If it's brown, flush it down. If it's yellow, let it mellow.

Posted by: toby928 at August 20, 2025 12:03 PM (jc0TO)

236 Now they've gone too far!

Don Keith@RealDonKeith
A young man was arrested in the UK for saying he loves bacon, which is offensive to Muslims.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at August 20, 2025 12:03 PM (L/fGl)

237 72 Dodges had power hungry tube radios.

Posted by: torabora at August 20, 2025 12:03 PM (iINsI)

238 231 Gavin Newscum thinks he's Trump.

https://is.gd/Vst2P5

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at August 20, 2025 12:00 PM (L/fGl)

Political assassinations are funny? FFS, leftists. Never change.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 20, 2025 12:02 PM (i24o9)

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It's funny if you think it was staged and didn't actually happen.

Also, Biden being old and insane was just right wing narrative.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 20, 2025 12:03 PM (GBKbO)

239 They'll elect anything as long as there's a (D) next to the name.
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Delaware loves the D! No joke!

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 20, 2025 12:03 PM (Dv3i1)

240 Sacramento County operates the world's largest turd plant.

Oh, you meant literally. Works both ways.

Posted by: Oddbob at August 20, 2025 12:03 PM (3nLb4)

241
In the course of human events...

Oui the people...

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 20, 2025 12:04 PM (63Dwl)

242 Colonel Klink >> Kernel Clink >> Cornhusker Clink

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at August 20, 2025 12:04 PM (w9Wax)

243 >>I'm amazed at how many otherwise normal people have blindspots of AI.

The Filters applied to video are among the most power intensive uses of electricity.

Saving the planet takes a back seat to Cat Filters for these people.

Posted by: garrett at August 20, 2025 12:04 PM (Z1dZR)

244 194. Posted by: Chuck Martel

Weekly in the Philly area.

We would like to substantially increase Daycare 'Teachers' salaries as a possibly remedy.

Yes, more and more we lean towards being out of our f*%*ing minds.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at August 20, 2025 12:04 PM (NFX2v)

245 176
‘ Learn from the J6er's - don't carry a cell phone.’

I don’t do nefarious things very often but when I do this is check box number 1.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 20, 2025 12:04 PM (jbnUc)

246 The rush to embrace AI for all things that require thinking or talent, while sapping our power grids for it, is certainly self destructive. The payout isn't worth it.

I saw an interesting vid by Peter Tragos, The Lawyer You Know channel. An attorney drew some serious sanctions when the motions she filed contained fake cites, due to AI sourcing.
Like one third of the motion she filed could not be confirmed. It wasn't just a word or two out of context.

Posted by: kallisto at August 20, 2025 12:05 PM (dCxaZ)

247 Newsom has a media team that includes a snotty blue haired Hispanic woman and a bowtied guy who looks like he sips penis

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 20, 2025 12:05 PM (so5nu)

248 Saving the planet takes a back seat to Cat Filters for these people.
Posted by: garrett at August 20, 2025 12:04 PM (Z1dZR)

That sums up the Left.

Posted by: polynikes at August 20, 2025 12:05 PM (EYmYM)

249 “He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.”

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 20, 2025 12:05 PM (Dv3i1)

250 Labour has a majority of 278 seats in the House of Commons. 398 Labour to 120 Conservative (and then assorted smaller parties like Reform with 4).
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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My guess is that you will have cabinet reshuffles first and Sir Keir will not serve out his full term as PM. The usual timeline for unpopular PM replacement is about 12-18 months before an election. Part of it is that Labour did not win many new votes--it went from 32 in the previous election to about 34 percent of the total vote in 2024. Instead, those unhappy with Torys which set a record for the smallest percentage of vote since 1830--less than 24 pct. That meant a lot of Tory voters abandoned the party for those on the left going to Liberal Democrats and Tory voters on the right going to Reform. Leaving a rump faction of Establishmentarians running the Tory party.

Thus, 66 percent of the UK population is not vested in Labour at all and some of that 34 percent of Labour voters in the last election are now regretting their vote. My guess if Labour continues to flounder, it may be supplanted by Liberal Democrats as the party on the left from defectors. As it did to the Liberals post WWI.

Posted by: whig at August 20, 2025 12:05 PM (ctrM5)

251 I think most European countries consider their conquered "wogs" to be citizens. So lots of the culturally non-assimilating are not really illegal.

Posted by: actually inside the beltway at August 20, 2025 12:05 PM (7Pnfz)

252 >>I saw an interesting vid by Peter Tragos, The Lawyer You Know channel. An attorney drew some serious sanctions when the motions she filed contained fake cites, due to AI sourcing.

There have been dozens of these cases, lately.

It's kinda funny that they employ AI and do no checking of the Case Law that it spits out.

Posted by: garrett at August 20, 2025 12:06 PM (Z1dZR)

253 Delete old emails
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See? Hillary was just saving the planet.

Posted by: ... at August 20, 2025 12:06 PM (rME7O)

254 Pee in the backyard.

Posted by: wth at August 20, 2025 12:06 PM (v0R5T)

255 The judge was especially incensed that the fake cites maligned the work of other judges in their circuit.
Part of the sanction imposed on the attorney was that the attorney had to write and apologize to the judges that were incorrectly cited, and also alert EVERY one of her firm's pending cases about her big boo-boo.

Posted by: kallisto at August 20, 2025 12:07 PM (dCxaZ)

256 California is billions in debt. But it is spending many millions $ to drag wreckage of a bridge out of a river that's been there since a storm destroyed it in 1964.
Idiots run California.

Posted by: torabora at August 20, 2025 12:07 PM (iINsI)

257 250 Thus, 66 percent of the UK population is not vested in Labour at all and some of that 34 percent of Labour voters in the last election are now regretting their vote. My guess if Labour continues to flounder, it may be supplanted by Liberal Democrats as the party on the left from defectors. As it did to the Liberals post WWI.
Posted by: whig at August 20, 2025 12:05 PM (ctrM5)

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Forcing out Starmer through backroom stuff could very well happen.

I just don't see any moderation happening ever until the party is driven from power.

Way too many nuts, and trying to form some kind of unofficial coalition with a minor party just to get a moderate PM could just outright blow things up.

Maybe Starmer goes, but his replacement will be more likely to be a Somali warlord than someone "moderate" like Tony Blair.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 20, 2025 12:07 PM (GBKbO)

258 It's funny if you think it was staged and didn't actually happen.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 20, 2025 12:03 PM (GBKbO)

You mean, if one is delusional and sociopathic?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 20, 2025 12:07 PM (i24o9)

259 It's kinda funny that they employ AI and do no checking of the Case Law that it spits out.
Posted by: garrett at August 20, 2025 12:06 PM (Z1dZR)

I wonder if you can ask AI if those were legitimate cites .

Posted by: polynikes at August 20, 2025 12:07 PM (EYmYM)

260 All change (save for further descents into dystopian hellscape) in England will require another general election. 4 years away at the latest (I seriously doubt any snap election between now and then).

That's a long time for Labour to fly their freak flag high and proud and taunt normie Britons.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 20, 2025 11:44 AM (GBKbO)
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I don't think labor has that long.

Posted by: Black JEM at August 20, 2025 12:07 PM (GZYu7)

261 258 It's funny if you think it was staged and didn't actually happen.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 20, 2025 12:03 PM (GBKbO)

You mean, if one is delusional and sociopathic?
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 20, 2025 12:07 PM (i24o9)

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I mean, I have a very black sense of humor, and I don't think it was very funny.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 20, 2025 12:08 PM (GBKbO)

262 At some point, the gas gauge became an issue. In a moment of panic, he suddenly reached over and turned off the factory installed AM Radio.

“What are you doing!!?” Much hilarity ensued.

I used to drive an Opel Kadet with a tiny 4 cylinder. When you turned on the headlights, you could see the temp gauge go up as it added load on the generator.

Posted by: Oddbob at August 20, 2025 12:08 PM (3nLb4)

263 The Brit people rise in revolt and somehow win, armed only with non stabby butter knives and cricket bats. They then give their former betters coin for their convoy and tell them to go home and hold their manhood cheap, in keeping with the classics.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 20, 2025 12:08 PM (gm9Sb)

264 228. Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads

👍

Prominent Jersey Devil posters might also be an escape deterrent.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at August 20, 2025 12:08 PM (NFX2v)

265 Some of the best fishing in the lower Hudson River was in the effluent of the Indian Point Power Plant before it was shut down.
Posted by: Nukular Striped Bass!

We love it too!

Posted by: Radioactive Shrimp at August 20, 2025 12:09 PM (w9Wax)

266 Isn't England an island? How are they running out of water?

Posted by: BurtTC at August 20, 2025 12:09 PM (dGCAG)

267 Newsom has a media team that includes a snotty blue haired Hispanic woman and a bowtied guy who looks like he sips penis
Posted by: Smell the Glove

https://is.gd/tWzZH5

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at August 20, 2025 12:09 PM (L/fGl)

268 New thread up, miscreants

Posted by: kallisto at August 20, 2025 12:09 PM (dCxaZ)

269 260 I don't think labor has that long.
Posted by: Black JEM at August 20, 2025 12:07 PM (GZYu7)

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Within the framework of how Parliament normally operates, the only way to call a snap election is if the King demands it or if the majority party makes it happen. The CP could call for some kind of vote of no confidence, but Starmer would never fail it.

Now, outside the framework of how Parliament normally operates, that's a whole other question with different parameters completely.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 20, 2025 12:09 PM (GBKbO)

270 bacon video

https://twitter.com/i/status/1957855273948721152

Posted by: DanMan at August 20, 2025 12:09 PM (8uzBS)

271 I don't think labor has that long.
Posted by: Black JEM at August 20, 2025 12:07 PM (GZYu7)

They will have about nine months before it's over.

Posted by: polynikes at August 20, 2025 12:09 PM (EYmYM)

272 I just don't see any moderation happening ever until the party is driven from power.

Way too many nuts, and trying to form some kind of unofficial coalition with a minor party just to get a moderate PM could just outright blow things up.

Maybe Starmer goes, but his replacement will be more likely to be a Somali warlord than someone "moderate" like Tony Blair.

It's a party of Muslims, Africans, and Trigglypuffs.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 20, 2025 12:10 PM (Riz8t)

273 I don't know what else to say about the Daycare beating, without risking stroke. Other than maybe society needs to prioritize ways to make it easier for one of the parents to stay home and raise the kids. I'm sure each proposal to do so though will generate tons of controversy.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 20, 2025 12:10 PM (Dv3i1)

274 No, the fish do not vote. Yet.
Posted by: torabora at August 20, 2025 12:00 PM (iINsI)

That's because they're still in school.
Posted by: polynike
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They can vote when school is fin.

Posted by: wth at August 20, 2025 12:11 PM (v0R5T)

275 I saw Radioactive Shrimp open for Kitchens of Distinction at the Odeon in the early '90s.

Posted by: Crusader at August 20, 2025 12:11 PM (TN0g+)

276 Well...the 66% in the UK need to come to some kind of agreement.

Football is only going to last so long before shit gets real.

And then they will take your precious footy away from you.

Posted by: eleven at August 20, 2025 12:11 PM (fV+MH)

277 England is ready to roll over.

Posted by: pudinhead at August 20, 2025 12:12 PM (W3T6M)

278 I mean, I have a very black sense of humor, and I don't think it was very funny.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 20, 2025 12:08 PM (GBKbO)

Yeah, same here. Even if one of "our" (arguable) guys whacked or attempted to whack one of their pols, it's still not in the world of potential comedy topics.

These people need serious mental help and deprogramming.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 20, 2025 12:12 PM (i24o9)

279 Hmmm...maybe they shouldn't import millions of un-assimilatable third-world primitives. I think that would save a shit-ton of water.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at August 20, 2025 12:13 PM (XMwZJ)

280 Within the framework of how Parliament normally operates, the only way to call a snap election is if the King demands it or if the majority party makes it happen. The CP could call for some kind of vote of no confidence, but Starmer would never fail it.

Now, outside the framework of how Parliament normally operates, that's a whole other question with different parameters completely.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Good summary. Are you sure you are not TJM AI edition? After all the original TJM claimed to be illiterate.

Posted by: whig at August 20, 2025 12:14 PM (ctrM5)

281 270 bacon video

https://twitter.com/i/status/1957855273948721152
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Instead of chanting "whose streets? our streets", it would have been better to all chant, "We love bacon". The fact that the gestapo bobbies are pulling this kid off the line visibly counteracts the chant. These are definitely not your streets. Though, like the English flag raising, I fully expect the cheeky Brits to use this chant going forward.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 20, 2025 12:14 PM (Dv3i1)

282 Posted by: whig at August 20, 2025 12:05 PM (ctrM5)

Don't confuse him.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at August 20, 2025 12:14 PM (gNDS4)

283 Prominent Jersey Devil posters might also be an escape deterrent.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at August 20, 2025 12:08 PM (NFX2v)

Let me tell you, it has to be a seriously creepy area at night. There are a lot of really nice roads for motorcycling. You see a lot of bikes on some of the roads, but a lot of times you're the only one on the roads. Nothing in front, nothing in back. Very sparse area with tiny pockets of civilization. I would not like to be there at night.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 20, 2025 12:15 PM (snZF9)

284 282 Posted by: whig at August 20, 2025 12:05 PM (ctrM5)

Don't confuse him.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at August 20, 2025 12:14 PM (gNDS4)

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All the squiggly shapes confuse me!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 20, 2025 12:15 PM (GBKbO)

285 I'm amazed at how many otherwise normal people have blindspots of AI.

People are really stupid.

Posted by: Facebook at August 20, 2025 12:17 PM (8N6G1)

286 Way too many nuts, and trying to form some kind of unofficial coalition with a minor party just to get a moderate PM could just outright blow things up.

Maybe Starmer goes, but his replacement will be more likely to be a Somali warlord than someone "moderate" like Tony Blair.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 20, 2025 12:07 PM (GBKbO)
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You could be right of course - but I don't think that timeline is operational anymore. They can see what Trump is doing, they know exactly what is being done to them, it is becoming existential at this point. I think 15 months is the long time frame. If Robinson's event gets traction and resonates the government won't survive past next summer.

Posted by: Black JEM at August 20, 2025 12:20 PM (GZYu7)

287 277 England is ready to roll over.
Posted by: pudinhead
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Never confuse the trends as determinate and historical. That thinking is essentially leftist and defeatist in nature deriving from Communism and also Islam (Historical determinism or Allah wills it)

As always, it depends on the joint choices of millions of people making a choice for decline or redemption.

Political upheavals are similar to earthquakes on fault lines--slow or no movement while stresses build up. When electoral processes no longer provide that relief, something is going to give and often the event that seemingly causes it is minor in nature.

Posted by: whig at August 20, 2025 12:22 PM (ctrM5)

288 Now, outside the framework of how Parliament normally operates, that's a whole other question with different parameters completely.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 20, 2025 12:09 PM (GBKbO)
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That's kind of where I am going - events overcome the "calendar".

Posted by: Black JEM at August 20, 2025 12:22 PM (GZYu7)

289 All the squiggly shapes confuse me!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Ah, the real TJM, not the AI chatbot TJM.

Posted by: whig at August 20, 2025 12:23 PM (ctrM5)

290 287 277 England is ready to roll over.
Posted by: pudinhead
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Never confuse the trends as determinate and historical. That thinking is essentially leftist and defeatist in nature deriving from Communism and also Islam (Historical determinism or Allah wills it)

As always, it depends on the joint choices of millions of people making a choice for decline or redemption.

Political upheavals are similar to earthquakes on fault lines--slow or no movement while stresses build up. When electoral processes no longer provide that relief, something is going to give and often the event that seemingly causes it is minor in nature.

Posted by: whig at August 20, 2025 12:22 PM (ctrM5)
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I think this is the territory the UK has wandered into.

Posted by: Black JEM at August 20, 2025 12:24 PM (GZYu7)

291 Very sparse area with tiny pockets of civilization. I would not like to be there at night.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division

I've seen a documentary of such places--The Hills Have Eyes.

Posted by: whig at August 20, 2025 12:24 PM (ctrM5)

292 Gavin Newscum thinks he's Trump.

https://is.gd/Vst2P5
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at August 20, 2025 12:00 PM (L/fGl)

Political assassinations are funny? FFS, leftists. Never change.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 20, 2025 12:02 PM (i24o9)

It's funny if you think it was staged and didn't actually happen.

Also, Biden being old and insane was just right wing narrative.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 20, 2025 12:03 PM (GBKbO)

Just more leftwing encouragement to assassinate Trump.

See? It wasn't serious. It was funny!!!!

It was funny that Trump was almost assassinated!

Geddit? Do you get the joke?

Wouldn't that be funny if it happened again?

These people are mentally ill.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 20, 2025 12:26 PM (iJfKG)

293 I think this is the territory the UK has wandered into.
Posted by: Black JEM
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From afar, it is difficult to tell plus compared to earthquakes--social sciences are more educated guessing than predictive.

And there is also the Euro mainland to figure into it along with their politics.

The chain revolutions of 1848 in Euroland, for example, came from a rejection in of the monarchy in Sicily thence to France, Germany etc.

But inevitably a mismatch between public consent, explicit or implicit, causes political unrest that can result in changes as mild as new parties in power to actually changing the structure of government to the liking of the new elite.

Corporate fascism as exemplified by the EU style welfare politics is dying--what will replace it--no one knows right now.

Posted by: whig at August 20, 2025 12:31 PM (ctrM5)

294 72 Dodges had power hungry tube radios.
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Not in 1972, and even so, a tube radio would not draw enough power to affect fuel economy. It might idle for 2 or 3 seconds less. Maybe.

This was the argument we had way back in 1973, which was what made it so funny.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 20, 2025 12:37 PM (IPxF/)

295 You know, I actually worked on El Capitan. And Frontier, another DoE supercomputer. I wrote a tiny portion of the control systems of each one.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at August 20, 2025 12:37 PM (2Insx)

296
It's even stupider than you're implying. The data is stored on hard disks or SSDs. The only way that the extra data generates heat is during various write/read/delete cycles. Storage alone doesn't generate heat.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 20, 2025 12:43 PM (y9nCu)

297 I am convinced that it's an instruction from the traitors on the inside to their collaborators on the outside. It stands out so clearly in the list as "one of these things is not like the other," and also (as pointed out) does not make any sense. However, instead of assuming they cannot compile a simple list of effective measures, I find it far more likely that "to save water" is what Scott Adams calls a "fake because." The instruction is real, but the reason is to hinder investigation and prosecution should their treacherous cabal lose power over those offices in the UK. That makes more sense to me.

Posted by: SciVo at August 20, 2025 01:16 PM (XDE1x)

298 They're an Island. How the bloody hell do they run out of water?!

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at August 20, 2025 02:36 PM (HrhzC)

299 Californias Central Valley where they cut off water to the Farmers over worthless 3 Inch Fish(Delta Smelt)and the Klamath Basin over some dumb Suckerfish and a Salmon(Coho)which could be bought at the Stores

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at August 20, 2025 05:24 PM (wGqjj)

300 If only George Orwell would have known what a JPEG file was.

Posted by: The Guy at August 20, 2025 06:29 PM (ydBA6)

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