Trump Expects to Have a Three-Way Trilateral Summit With Putin and Zelenskyy "If Everything Works Out Today"

Jacqui Heinrich
@JacquiHeinrich
NEWS: I just got off the phone with a source involved in the pre-meeting with Zelenskyy at the Ukrainian embassy this morning:
MY NOTES:
1) I'm told there's no expectation that today wraps up with a date on the calendar for a trilateral summit -- but today would be a success if Zelenskyy had a realistic discussion about territorial concessions
2) Nobody expects Zelenskyy to take Putin's first version of the map back to his country, but he needs to talk about what he can let go and what is critical to keep.
2a. -- Getting clarity on security guarantees and what that looks like will make it easier for Zelenskyy to sell that back home
2b. -- Asked about what that means for the timeline, I'm told the US feels there is political energy behind this, a light at the end of the tunnel, and wants to get it done now -- but knows it won't be instant. More like "weeks not months" -- and Ukraine understands this
3) US and Europeans have "gently" made suggestions on territory, but they are also aware that Zelenskyy has to take this back and massage it through his own system -- "gotta come back with a counteroffer"
3a. -- I asked how Zelenskyy is approaching that given Ukraine's constitutional requirement of a national referendum for territorial changes -- I'm told the the general attitude is "that's a you problem" -- as in, up to Zelenskyy to figure out and handle
3b. -- On territory with minerals being under Russian control, basically if America has a stake in land, it is a security in an of itself - its in their interest to make that work
4) Europeans believe the security guarantees are a very very big deal, and want to protect and preserve it -- which is part of why they are all eager to be here today.
4a. -- They also want to help Zelenskyy manage this high-wire act because "the risk factor of Zelenskyy putting his foot in his mouth is significant"
5) The discussion on security guarantees won't produce full security plan today- but they want clear next steps to work on, "a commitment in principle from the coalition of the willing, the US, hammering out alongside Ukrainians"
5a. -- Some awareness that the US should legislate this, make sure it lasts into future administrations
5b. -- Also the WH sees Putin's acceptance of security guarantees as important -- their attitude is "Now we have to put more meat on the bone"
6) Today it is important to demonstrate unity between Europeans, US, and Ukraine -- that would define success
7) Neither Ukrainians or Americans want today to fail

Zelenskyy, of course, insisted that he would never, ever concede any territory to Russia, because his country's constitution -- which he freely ignores when it suits him -- forbids it.

Zelensky said Sunday that Kyiv will not surrender territory not currently occupied by Russian forces as part of any peace deal, adding that Ukraine's constitution forbids it.
"We need real negotiations," Zelensky said to reporters in Brussels at a press conference with European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, per Just the News.
In addition to meeting with Trump, other European leaders are expected to be at the White House as well, reports said.

Zelensky stated that Russia has been unable to seize part of eastern Ukraine it has sought to control since 2014. He emphasized that Russian President Vladimir Putin "has been unable to take it for 12 years, and the constitution of Ukraine makes it impossible ... to give up territory or trade land," according to Politico.

But that might just be bluster and positioning. You never want to concede anything before you start actually negotiating.

A few items:

Trump notes that Zelenskyy canceled elections during the war which gives Trump an idea for "three and a half years from now."

Obviously the vaunted Ukrainian Constitution is pretty flexible in its terms, huh?

Trump says the "whole world is tired" of the Russia-Ukraine war.

Melania wrote a personal letter to Putin imploring him to consider the lives of all the children he's either killing or making orphaned.

Zelenskyy actually wore a suit for once, and was complimented by a reporter and Trump.

President Trump: "If everything works out today, we'll have a trilat[eral agreement] and I think there will be a reasonable chance of ending the war when we do that." pic.twitter.com/4ph6yVQIxR
— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) August 18, 2025

It's "Joe Biden's war."

THIS IS JOE BIDEN’S WAR pic.twitter.com/QDtkbizuje
— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) August 18, 2025

On Sunday, the ill-prepared DEI hire Margaret Brennan insisted that European leaders were joining the summit to... protect Zelenskyy from "bullying." It's a Democrat Cult Article of Faith that Trump "bullied" Zelenskyy at their last meeting.

Marco Rubio said no, they're coming to join in the negotiations.

🚨 HOLY CRAP! CBS' Margaret Brennan thought she knew more about foreign policy and the Russia-Ukraine negotiations than Marco Rubio.

She didn't. He put her in her place. Rubio is a masterclass.

"No it isn't, that's not why...That's not true...No."pic.twitter.com/ZpZASCsFYQ
— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) August 17, 2025

Note that European countries will have to promise to defend Ukraine with actual troops to secure a peace agreement. I don't think they'll agree to that, or if they do, they'll make sure their are massive escape clauses allowing them to disown the agreement at will.

Martha Raddatz is incensed at the idea that Trump, in seeking to broker a peace deal, would expect any concessions from Zelenskyy, and demands to know what concessions he's demanded of Putin.

She also insisted that Trump was wrong to shake Putin's hand, even though he was meeting with Putin on a diplomatic mission and diplomatic niceties are very much required.

She is very clearly reviving the "Trump is a Putin agent" hoax which she apparently still thinks is factually true. She is basically telling Rubio that Trump cannot broker a peace when he's an agent of one of the parties involved.

She doesn't say that, but it's obvious. There cannot be any other reason for her being unhinged over the idea that warring parties will have to make mutual concessions to reach a peace agreement. Or that Trump should shake the hand of a man he's invited to America for a diplomatic negotiation.

🔥Marco Rubio on fire…

“What utility would there be of me going on a program and telling you we wagged our finger at Putin and told him you must do this…these discussions ONLY work best when they are conducted privately.” pic.twitter.com/2cnIkBx7n6
— Townhall.com (@townhallcom) August 17, 2025

🚨 BREAKING: ABC just tried to grill Marco Rubio for the US giving Putin the "red carpet" and President Trump having a "warm handshake" - and Rubio was having NONE of it.

"When I hear people say that, 'oh, it elevates him.' Well, all we do is talk about Putin all the time! All… pic.twitter.com/21LT63Kzo2
— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) August 17, 2025

Posted by: Ace at 02:10 PM

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1 Hola

Posted by: Thanatopsis at August 18, 2025 02:09 PM (GYt5+)

2 1st

Posted by: GF at August 18, 2025 02:09 PM (iVUs+)

3 2nd

Posted by: Thanatopsis at August 18, 2025 02:09 PM (GYt5+)

4 5th

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 18, 2025 02:10 PM (N1tpc)

5
OK, I'm here. We can begin.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 18, 2025 02:11 PM (bwb3L)

6 Do you think this whole war is really just about whether it should be spelled "Vladimir" or "Volodymyr"? Sad.

Posted by: Sugar Plum fairy at August 18, 2025 02:11 PM (G77LY)

7 Losers demand concessions. Winners go home and fuck Ukraine.

Posted by: toby928 at August 18, 2025 02:11 PM (jc0TO)

8 Trump is friendly with Putin = Trump is more closely aligning with Putin.

Trump is friendly with Zelensky = ...?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 18, 2025 02:11 PM (GBKbO)

9 I still think Brennan has a masochistic kink, and loves being humiliated by conservatives.

Raddatz is just senile.

Posted by: Eeyore at August 18, 2025 02:11 PM (s0JqF)

10 Rubio has been the biggest positive surprise in this administration. He's taken lessons from Trump on how to push back and beclown the media.

Posted by: Forheremenaremen at August 18, 2025 02:12 PM (1v0rw)

11 >>>Trump notes that Zelenskyy canceled elections during the war which gives Trump an idea for "three and a half years from now."

LMAO.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 18, 2025 02:12 PM (i24o9)

12 Little Marco kicks Sunday morning tv's ass.

Posted by: huerfano at August 18, 2025 02:12 PM (98kQX)

13
"And I am giving Z the money to buy a nice suit and tie."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 18, 2025 02:12 PM (bwb3L)

14 Martha Raddatz is incensed at the idea that Trump, in seeking to broker a peace deal, would expect any concessions from Zelenskyy, and demands to know what concessions he's demanded of Putin.

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"Peace happens only through unconditional surrender like in WWII. Also, proportional warfare is the only way to fight a war."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 18, 2025 02:12 PM (GBKbO)

15 I asked how Zelenskyy is approaching that given Ukraine's constitutional requirement of a national referendum for territorial changes -- I'm told the the general attitude is "that's a you problem"

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lol, sure is

Posted by: runner at August 18, 2025 02:12 PM (g47mK)

16 Alternate title: Bunch of Dumbfucks and Secretary of State Marco Rubio.

Posted by: Axeman at August 18, 2025 02:13 PM (krQz2)

17 Trump Expects to Have a Three-Way
.....

Melania is OK with that?

Posted by: wth at August 18, 2025 02:13 PM (UjdFS)

18 I think Z has been told to make a deal.

Showing up in the suit is the 1st sign. It was the 1st concession he's ever made to anyone...and he made that concession personally to Trump.

Posted by: Nova Local at August 18, 2025 02:13 PM (tOcjL)

19 She doesn't say that, but it's obvious. There cannot be any other reason for her being unhinged over the idea that warring parties will have to make mutual concessions to reach a peace agreement.

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I can think of another reason.

She's really dumb.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 18, 2025 02:13 PM (GBKbO)

20 Zelenskyy, of course, insisted that he would never, ever concede any territory to Russia, because his country's constitution -- which he freely ignores when it suits him -- forbids it.

Posted by: Ace at 02:10 PM

::::swoon::::

Posted by: The Democrats at August 18, 2025 02:13 PM (k1E2D)

21 Rubio 3.0 is a completely different beast.

Posted by: garrett at August 18, 2025 02:13 PM (Z1dZR)

22 This isn't the world I grew up in.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 18, 2025 02:13 PM (5swlB)

23 If I'm Vlad, I say "You want me to give that little peckerwood Zelenskyy the time of day? You give me Alaska."

Posted by: XTC at August 18, 2025 02:13 PM (UnA8+)

24 Zelenskyy actually wore a suit for once, and was complimented by a reporter and Trump.

Will Trump wear an 'adibas' track suit in return?

Posted by: t-bird at August 18, 2025 02:14 PM (x/Rva)

25 When did Skeletor get an ABC news show?

Posted by: ... at August 18, 2025 02:14 PM (E0p3T)

26 Don't think Z will act up today.
He will act up in truly destructive ways AFTER today's meeting.
Maximum effect acting up .... it's really the Orange Man versus the USA IC and until ( if) Trump can bring the IC under control they are in control -- using scum like Zelensky as their proxy.

Posted by: Beyond Norman Parameters at August 18, 2025 02:14 PM (Mb6Y/)

27 I expect to have a three way with Sidney Sweeny and Sofia Vergara

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 18, 2025 02:14 PM (NtVYv)

28 Rubio has been the biggest positive surprise in this administration. He's taken lessons from Trump on how to push back and beclown the media.

Posted by: Forheremenaremen at August 18, 2025 02:12 PM (1v0rw)
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He used to think the way forward was opposing Trump.

Now, he knows that's not going to work.

Posted by: Axeman at August 18, 2025 02:14 PM (krQz2)

29 21 Rubio 3.0 is a completely different beast.

Posted by: garrett at August 18, 2025 02:13 PM (Z1dZR)

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I still see a power mad psychopath who will say anything to attain power when I see him, the same I've seen since about 2013.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 18, 2025 02:14 PM (GBKbO)

30 >>I can think of another reason.

>>She's really dumb.

She reads the words.
That's all she is there for. To read the words.

Posted by: garrett at August 18, 2025 02:14 PM (Z1dZR)

31 20 Zelenskyy, of course, insisted that he would never, ever concede any territory to Russia, because his country's constitution -- which he freely ignores when it suits him -- forbids it.

Pretty sure that's bluster... Trump would not have had little Z man in the Oval again if some things were not already "agreed" upon....

Posted by: It's me donna at August 18, 2025 02:15 PM (VE6XX)

32 "Obviously the vaunted Ukrainian Constitution"
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The judges would have accepted "much-ballyhooed" as well.

Posted by: 496 at August 18, 2025 02:15 PM (tXY4l)

33 "A three-way? You mean, like, a Lucky Pierre Delecto?"

/Killary "LOCK HER UP!" Klingon

Posted by: ShainS -- Donald the Lionhearted 2028! at August 18, 2025 02:15 PM (1jZXH)

34 Zelensky said Sunday that Kyiv will not surrender territory not currently occupied by Russian forces
......

Then Pooty will just take it.

Posted by: wth at August 18, 2025 02:15 PM (UjdFS)

35 30 >>I can think of another reason.

>>She's really dumb.

She reads the words.
That's all she is there for. To read the words.
Posted by: garrett at August 18, 2025 02:14 PM (Z1dZR)

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"Go fuck yourself, San Diego."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 18, 2025 02:15 PM (GBKbO)

36
He wore a suit? Like, a regular one and not one of those Soviet-era cardboard models?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 18, 2025 02:15 PM (bwb3L)

37 "Obviously the vaunted Ukrainian Constitution"
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The judges would have accepted "much-ballyhooed" as well.
Posted by: 496 at August 18, 2025 02:15 PM

Ancient and revered.

Posted by: toby928 at August 18, 2025 02:15 PM (jc0TO)

38 If Zelensky is included it will be a Menage a Twat

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 18, 2025 02:15 PM (NtVYv)

39 Our elites and government lackies are making bank on the Ukraine - Russia war... so they have no interest in it stopping.

The press reports thusly.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 18, 2025 02:16 PM (Q4IgG)

40 Raddatz, Welker, Brennan; not a brain cell between them

Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at August 18, 2025 02:16 PM (V6W16)

41 > Obviously the vaunted Ukrainian Constitution is pretty flexible in its terms, huh?

It's pretty specific and inflexible about the whole elections thing. No elections during a state of war isn't a very complicated or difficult to understand thing.

Posted by: The Ghost of History at August 18, 2025 02:16 PM (EX4EH)

42 Re: Martha Raddatz

Meh. Let the cuckoo go cuckoo. It's endless entertainment.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 18, 2025 02:16 PM (i24o9)

43 Is Margaret Brennan really that stupid or is that just a role she plays?

Posted by: Still lurking up north, read some, don't comment much at August 18, 2025 02:16 PM (kTd/k)

44 I hope this works out.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 18, 2025 02:16 PM (daZd4)

45
"Tell the truth Marco. The people have a right to know."

https://tinyurl.com/td8pzd8u

Posted by: ... at August 18, 2025 02:16 PM (E0p3T)

46
The judges would have accepted "much-ballyhooed" as well.
Posted by: 496 at August 18, 2025 02:15 PM (tXY4l)

__________

It should be a model for ours. Including ignoring elections.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 18, 2025 02:16 PM (bwb3L)

47 I still see a power mad psychopath who will say anything to attain power when I see him, the same I've seen since about 2013.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 18, 2025 02:14 PM (GBKbO)

A power mad psychopath who will say and actually do the right things to attain power is The American Dream.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 18, 2025 02:16 PM (VoAdT)

48 "Go fuck yourself, San Diego."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 18, 2025 02:15 PM

Aren't the actual lyrics "Don't cry for me, Argentina"?

Posted by: Wesley Crusher at August 18, 2025 02:16 PM (0sNs1)

49 I'm always amazed at how stupid our "betters" are.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 18, 2025 02:16 PM (N1tpc)

50 Zelenskyy, of course, insisted that he would never, ever concede any territory to Russia

You mean those areas he doesn't control and in fact voted to leave years ago? Tell you what, Z, we'll give you the mythical land of Peruvia as compensation!

Posted by: t-bird at August 18, 2025 02:17 PM (x/Rva)

51 Is Margaret Brennan really that stupid or is that just a role she plays?

Both

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 18, 2025 02:17 PM (daZd4)

52 "Go fuck yourself, San Diego."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 18, 2025 02:15 PM (GBKbO)
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Poop mouth!

Posted by: Chris Parnell at August 18, 2025 02:17 PM (krQz2)

53 >>Will Trump wear an 'adibas' track suit in return?

Posted by: t-bird at August 18, 2025 02:14 PM

If he did, the news media would suddenly remember that the founders of Adidas were Nazis.

Posted by: huerfano at August 18, 2025 02:17 PM (98kQX)

54 Willowed

Y'all been busy while I was waiting on TSA's DEI hire Shanequa, with the culturally appropriated straightened blood hair. Useless twunt was flagging everyone's stuff for additional scrutiny.

Kyle the ambiguously straight, needs to eat a Sammich soiboi, wasn't cleaning the wipe n sniff testing machine between samples and the poor thing damned near shit himself when it flagged my work laptop as an explosive. Much hilarity (mine) was had at the monkeys scampering and flinging poo at everyone at that point.

If today is any indication, I'm gonna have a great fucking week.

Posted by: BifBewalski at August 18, 2025 02:17 PM (FYZGs)

55 34 Zelensky said Sunday that Kyiv will not surrender territory not currently occupied by Russian forces

Posted by: wth at August 18, 2025 02:15 PM (UjdFS)

So, he will surrender anything Russia does have...and there is the makings of a deal...

Posted by: Nova Local at August 18, 2025 02:17 PM (tOcjL)

56 47 I still see a power mad psychopath who will say anything to attain power when I see him, the same I've seen since about 2013.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 18, 2025 02:14 PM (GBKbO)

A power mad psychopath who will say and actually do the right things to attain power is The American Dream.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 18, 2025 02:16 PM (VoAdT)

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As long as he sees it as his path to power to work in our interests, he'll do good things.

However, the second he sees it otherwise, we're fucked.

I'd never vote for him for anything.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 18, 2025 02:17 PM (GBKbO)

57 That's all she is there for. To read the words.
Posted by: garrett at August 18, 2025 02:14 PM (Z1dZR)

Are we even certain she can read? Maybe she's just repeating what's in an earpiece.

Posted by: ... at August 18, 2025 02:17 PM (E0p3T)

58 I expect to have a three way with Sidney Sweeny and Sofia Vergara
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I'm not greedy--Sofia would be enough for me.

Posted by: Crusader at August 18, 2025 02:17 PM (TN0g+)

59 The Ukraine is screwed for generations. Two generations of men have killed, and for what? "Elite" graft.

I sincerely hope the US does not place troops in the Ukraine.

Posted by: Ann at August 18, 2025 02:17 PM (4neFu)

60 I expect to have a three way with Sidney Sweeny and Sofia Vergara
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway
......

But you only have two hands.

Posted by: wth at August 18, 2025 02:17 PM (UjdFS)

61 52 "Go fuck yourself, San Diego."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 18, 2025 02:15 PM (GBKbO)
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Poop mouth!
Posted by: Chris Parnell at August 18, 2025 02:17 PM (krQz2)

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Careful, Brick killed a guy with a trident.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 18, 2025 02:18 PM (GBKbO)

62 36
He wore a suit? Like, a regular one and not one of those Soviet-era cardboard models?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 18, 2025 02:15 PM (bwb3L)

Yup...no tie though, but baby steps...

Posted by: Nova Local at August 18, 2025 02:18 PM (tOcjL)

63 Is Margaret Brennan really that stupid or is that just a role she plays?

It can be both, really.

Posted by: t-bird at August 18, 2025 02:18 PM (x/Rva)

64 Can we change her official title to "Newsbint Margaret Brennan"?

Posted by: Axeman at August 18, 2025 02:18 PM (krQz2)

65 *have been killed

Posted by: Ann at August 18, 2025 02:18 PM (4neFu)

66 It's insane, this obsession the left has with "high school drama."

All that noise over how it's some sort of big honor to allow Putin to sit at the table, like cool kids at lunch.

They really have no clue what "adults in charge" actually looks like.
Which is why they're out there making shit up, then pushing it as fact, and acting all offended that their silly school kid bullshit isn't the way things work.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 18, 2025 02:18 PM (tlI68)

67 Does Martha Radditz have grandchildren to spend quality time with the little time she still has left before her ultimate judgement? People stick around way too long thinking they are indespensible when they in reality are doing a mediocre job at best.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 18, 2025 02:18 PM (Dv3i1)

68 Little Marco is a much better Secretary of State than I expected.

Posted by: tankdemon at August 18, 2025 02:18 PM (uHCmv)

69 Actually I like Rubio more than JD Vance for 2028. The only thing is Rubio jumped in with McCain and Graham two weeks into office.. His saving grace is his parents are from Cuba and Miami. Rubio know communism.. He is the best choice for Sec of State. South (Latin) America is def in his wheel house..

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at August 18, 2025 02:18 PM (VPPG8)

70 What is that rather unfortunate assemblage of cast off body parts thing called “Martha” anyway, and why should humans care what it thinks!?

Posted by: Common Tater at August 18, 2025 02:18 PM (Ft/w+)

71 Sometimes the bad guys win. Putin gets territory and a weakened Ukraine and some economic guarantees as well. Zelensky and the Ukrainians get bent over.

As long as we lose no blood and treasure when this is all said and done, we will be okay.

Posted by: Diabeetus at August 18, 2025 02:19 PM (p8iTN)

72 Okay, Martha, time to head back to the home for supper and a bath.

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 18, 2025 02:19 PM (wVcYX)

73 "Go fuck yourself, San Diego."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 18, 2025 02:15 PM

Aren't the actual lyrics "Don't cry for me, Argentina"?
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The San Diego lyrics show up on the extended dance mix vinyl.

Posted by: Crusader at August 18, 2025 02:19 PM (TN0g+)

74 I agree 100%! We should treat our enemies with contempt and maybe even a right hook to the jaw and a boot to the ribs. This goes for Democrats and other assorted leftists I encounter in public. Love these rules guys!

Posted by: JROD at August 18, 2025 02:19 PM (IlL6s)

75 So the Left is going to turn whatever happens into "Trump's fault."

I think, in the end, that is all they ever wanted. Just like VN.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at August 18, 2025 02:19 PM (vlkaB)

76 I'd never vote for him for anything.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 18, 2025 02:17 PM

This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: zombie Harold Stassen at August 18, 2025 02:19 PM (0sNs1)

77 I expect to have a three way with Sidney Sweeny and Sofia Vergara
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They could suffocate you.

Posted by: Still lurking up north, read some, don't comment much at August 18, 2025 02:19 PM (kTd/k)

78
That garbage is lookin' mighty hot

Posted by: Wicket gives side eye to Rubio's garbage at August 18, 2025 02:19 PM (UCRIj)

79 I still see a power mad psychopath who will say anything to attain power when I see him, the same I've seen since about 2013.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 18, 2025 02:14 PM (GBKbO)

The best political system is the one that makes a power mad psychopath who will say anything to attain power do the right thing.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 18, 2025 02:19 PM (N1tpc)

80
This goes for Democrats and other assorted leftists I encounter in public. Love these rules guys!
Posted by: JROD at August 18, 2025 02:19 PM (IlL6s)

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Can we do the Europeans too? Please?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 18, 2025 02:20 PM (bwb3L)

81 Slap my ass, Marco! Oh, pull my hair!

Posted by: Margaret Brennan at August 18, 2025 02:20 PM (u73oe)

82 Russia invading Ukraine was wrong, just like the previous one and the invasion of Georgia. Taking that land was wrong. Killing people in war is bad, and awful and should only be done as a last resort. Defending your own territory is a just cause.

BUT... with all that said, Ukraine cannot win. They lost this territory. They need to give it up and stop the meat grinder, they cannot win.

What Ukraine did, usually, is make it very costly, time consuming, and even embarrassing to Russia so they will be reluctant to consider this next time. So despite its horrors, it was useful and served a purpose.

The trick is to get Zelenskyy in a moment when he's not all coked up and filled with nonsense by the European leadership. And to let Trump get the win.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 18, 2025 02:20 PM (dfIr7)

83 The left can't stand the idea that Trump might get a "win" out of this...

Posted by: It's me donna at August 18, 2025 02:20 PM (VE6XX)

84 Meemaw does an incredible double backflip!

https://is.gd/0Df5IM

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at August 18, 2025 02:21 PM (L/fGl)

85 Is everyone going to wear a track suit?

Posted by: Boss Moss at August 18, 2025 02:21 PM (pXKqq)

86 Trump send two IWOGIMA class torup carrier craft carrying 400 Marines, A Nuke sub and other multiple navy assets to the Caribbean... Just waiting to see who he hits first Haiti or The Maduro regime. I'm thinking Maduro then pick up BBQ Chalie on the way back

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at August 18, 2025 02:21 PM (VPPG8)

87 Trump notes that Zelenskyy canceled elections during the war
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So again, make elections a term of any ceasefire. If the Ukes vote for candidates that reject territorial concessions, we then walk away entirely.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at August 18, 2025 02:21 PM (XvL8K)

88 What you can't explain to these clowns because they are liars and know it anyway - Putin is only at the table because Trump put pressure on him that Biden and Company refused to.

Yes they are lying when they call Trump Putin's stooge. They just want their retards to continue believing it.

Posted by: ... at August 18, 2025 02:21 PM (E0p3T)

89 79
The best political system is the one that makes a power mad psychopath who will say anything to attain power do the right thing.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 18, 2025 02:19 PM (N1tpc)

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I see him as one of the most potent, "Run as a conservative, govern as a neocon," example we could come up with.

He's in line because he answers to someone, Trump. If Rubio's the top dog? Hell, no.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 18, 2025 02:21 PM (GBKbO)

90 Sometimes the bad guys win. Putin gets territory and a weakened Ukraine and some economic guarantees as well. Zelensky and the Ukrainians get bent over.

As long as we lose no blood and treasure when this is all said and done, we will be okay.
Posted by: Diabeetus at August 18, 2025 02:19 PM (p8iTN)

We already lost plenty of treasure.

The real bad guys of course, are our neocon warmongers who caused this war in the first place.

They got to sell weapons for a few years, but otherwise, they'll lose all influence in Ukraine when all is said and done, so in that sense the bad guys lost.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 18, 2025 02:21 PM (dGCAG)

91 All I want out of this resolution is for Ukraine to take those T72 turrets and plant them in the ground like lollipops to use as border markers on all roads East.

Not for any political reason, I just think it would be cool.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at August 18, 2025 02:21 PM (vlkaB)

92 It's pretty specific and inflexible about the whole elections thing. No elections during a state of war isn't a very complicated or difficult to understand thing.

Posted by: The Ghost of History at August 18, 2025 02:16 PM (EX4EH)

Don't rain on the ZDS parade.

Posted by: Mark1971 at August 18, 2025 02:21 PM (CNl8/)

93 It's pretty specific and inflexible about the whole elections thing. No elections during a state of war isn't a very complicated or difficult to understand thing.

That's a good incentive for the "state of war" to go on forever, isn't it?

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 18, 2025 02:21 PM (xTIDn)

94 Well, he's got a point.

Miles Commodore@miles_commodore
As a black man I don’t want DEI, but I do want fairness. For example, how come there is no restaurant called African American Barrel?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at August 18, 2025 02:22 PM (L/fGl)

95 I expect to have a three way with Sidney Sweeny and Sofia Vergara
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway
......

But you only have two hands.
Posted by: wth at August 18, 2025 02:17 PM (UjdFS)

Fill your hands, you lucky sumbitch!

Posted by: Rooster Cogburn at August 18, 2025 02:22 PM (wVcYX)

96 Do you think this whole war is really just about whether it should be spelled "Vladimir" or "Volodymyr"? Sad.
Posted by: Sugar Plum fairy
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"Kyiv", or, "Kiev"

That's the real issue.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 18, 2025 02:22 PM (XeU6L)

97 @71 Diabeetus-thats right! The Ukrainians/ZELENSKY get a proper butt fucking for teaming up with and trusting an American regime of leftist scum and warmongers. Thems the breaks MF'er(shrugs)

Posted by: JROD at August 18, 2025 02:22 PM (IlL6s)

98 Can anyone supply a link to the no-elections-during-war clause of the Ukrainian Constitution? Everything I am googling up makes it statuary rather that constitutional.

Posted by: toby928 at August 18, 2025 02:22 PM (jc0TO)

99 sorry for the spelling I was on a roll

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at August 18, 2025 02:22 PM (VPPG8)

100 >>I'm always amazed at how stupid our "betters" are.

And dishonest. Have you heard any of them say that NATO has been breaking its word to Russia about NATO eastward expansion? How about telling their audience that the US ran a color revolution in Ukraine in 2014 to depose a duly elected president friendly to Russia and install one friendly to the west?

They keep saying Putin invaded Ukraine for no reason when it's a lie. It doesn't make Putin a good guy to tell the truth.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 18, 2025 02:22 PM (viF8m)

101 I think, in the end, that is all they ever wanted. Just like VN.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at August 18, 2025 02:19 PM (vlkaB)

Wow, I didn't know Trump was responsible for the left cutting all aid off to South Vietnam and leaving our allies to die!

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 18, 2025 02:22 PM (N1tpc)

102 I'm expecting Trump to enter the meeting room and say, "Put that coffee down!"

Posted by: Blake from Mitch and Murray at August 18, 2025 02:22 PM (/HDaX)

103 Is everyone going to wear a track suit?
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Yes, for 15 minutes.

Posted by: Crusader at August 18, 2025 02:22 PM (TN0g+)

104 I'd rather see Vance for President as Marco stays on as his SoS

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 18, 2025 02:23 PM (kUxzU)

105 I expect to have a three way with Sidney Sweeny and Sofia Vergara
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway
......

But you only have two hands.
Posted by: wth at August 18, 2025 02:17 PM (UjdFS)

Details, details

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 18, 2025 02:23 PM (NtVYv)

106 2016 Rubio: "I was against amnesty before I was for it and now I'm against it again."

In so many words.

Rubio is a self-promoting snake in the grass, who is currently doing our bidding. Let's not be fooled again.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 18, 2025 02:23 PM (i24o9)

107 It's repulsive how shameless the left is with wanting every single thing to have the worst possible outcome when Trump is involved.
If the war was somehow ended when Biden was in office I would be cynical but not genuinely dissapointed.
How so called "moderate dems" can't see that they have become a party of childish lunatics is remarkable.

Posted by: Cmonman at August 18, 2025 02:23 PM (GTejw)

108 Anybody knows if Presdent Obana will also be there to help Trump because Trump is stewpid and may gives Puten everthing.

Posted by: Mary Clogerstein from Brattleboro, Vt at August 18, 2025 02:23 PM (ibfWm)

109 I expect to have a three way with Sidney Sweeny and Sofia Vergara
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway
......

But you only have two hands.
Posted by: wth at August 18, 2025 02:17 PM (UjdFS)

Fill your hands, you lucky sumbitch!
Posted by: Rooster Cogburn at August 18, 2025 02:22 PM

What am I, dissected haptic tissue?

Posted by: Da mouf at August 18, 2025 02:23 PM (0sNs1)

110 https://x.com/ChiefSund/status/1957426242417766450

Let this sink in: Washington, D.C. had 497 carjackings in 2024 and already 190 this year. Since the new crime initiative launched last week? Just ONE

Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at August 18, 2025 02:23 PM (V6W16)

111 Fossils like Raddatz managing to hang onto that job is like the old Congress critters and Senators who don't know when to leave

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 18, 2025 02:23 PM (O3XOV)

112 I expect to have a three way with Sidney Sweeny and Sofia Vergara
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They could suffocate you.
Posted by: Still lurking up north, read some, don't comment much at August 18, 2025 02:19 PM (kTd/k)

Die happy, pure bliss

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 18, 2025 02:23 PM (NtVYv)

113 The left can't stand the idea that Trump might get a "win" out of this

Yeah its like the Afganistan shut down, they refused to let Trump get the win so Biden could claim it (and make it a disaster).

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 18, 2025 02:23 PM (dfIr7)

114 What Ukraine did, usually, is make it very costly, time consuming, and even embarrassing to Russia so they will be reluctant to consider this next time. So despite its horrors, it was useful and served a purpose.

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I would not be surprised if they continued a low- level insurgency against the Russians for years going forward.

Ukraine also helped take the art and science of war decades ahead with their use of drones and AI.

No wonder Palantir was one of the first companies to get in the Ukraine War game.

Posted by: Diabeetus at August 18, 2025 02:23 PM (p8iTN)

115 The left can't stand the idea that Trump might get a "win" out of this...
Posted by: It's me donna at August 18, 2025 02:20 PM (VE6XX)
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Whatever happens it will be "wrong" until it's inevitable that his poll numbers are going up because of it.

Posted by: Axeman at August 18, 2025 02:24 PM (krQz2)

116 I imagine Rubio's trash bin is looking attractive again.

Posted by: Thomans Paine at August 18, 2025 02:24 PM (0U5gm)

117 What you can't explain to these clowns because they are liars and know it anyway - Putin is only at the table because Trump put pressure on him that Biden and Company refused to.

Yes they are lying when they call Trump Putin's stooge. They just want their retards to continue believing it.
Posted by: ... at August 18, 2025 02:21 PM (E0p3T)

I'm not sure what "pressure" Trump put on Pootin. He was willing to come to the table. That's the biggest difference.

Yeah, Trump says things, but in the end, if a deal comes out of this, it won't be due to Trump pressure, it will be due to Russia wanting this thing to have ended, and the West finally coming to the reality that they can't win.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 18, 2025 02:24 PM (dGCAG)

118 Do you think this whole war is really just about whether it should be spelled "Vladimir" or "Volodymyr"? Sad.
Posted by: Sugar Plum fairy
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"Kyiv", or, "Kiev"

That's the real issue.
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I believe we should withhold US support for any deal until both sides concede that its NOT pronouced "KEEV".

Posted by: Crusader at August 18, 2025 02:24 PM (TN0g+)

119 >>And dishonest. Have you heard any of them say that NATO has been breaking its word to Russia about NATO eastward expansion? How about telling their audience that the US ran a color revolution in Ukraine in 2014 to depose a duly elected president friendly to Russia and install one friendly to the west?

IIRC - We did the same thing in 2008 in Georgia, too.

Posted by: garrett at August 18, 2025 02:24 PM (Z1dZR)

120
My question for the Ukraine-at-all-costs is, how does this end? Absent a political collapse on either side? The Russians can't overrun Ukraine and Ukraine can't take back the territory taken. So does this just go on and on? I don't know if Trump has the solution but at least he's trying.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 18, 2025 02:24 PM (bwb3L)

121 EDITED: Trump send two IWO JIMA class troop carrier craft carrying 4000 Marines, A Nuke sub and other multiple navy assets to the Caribbean... Just waiting to see who he hits first Haiti or The Maduro regime. I'm thinking Maduro then pick up BBQ Chalie on the way back

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at August 18, 2025 02:24 PM (VPPG8)

122 Rubio has been the biggest positive surprise in this administration. He's taken lessons from Trump on how to push back and beclown the media.
Posted by: Forheremenaremen at August 18, 2025 02:12 PM (1v0rw)
******
Every day I change my mind on who I want the next Republican president to be.
Right now it's between Vance, Rubio and DeSantis.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 18, 2025 02:25 PM (NpAcC)

123 ah ok so he did mostly wear a suit

well good!

Posted by: Black Orchid at August 18, 2025 02:25 PM (Pv3Rg)

124
I think, in the end, that is all they ever wanted. Just like VN.
Posted by: bob
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I clearly recall the first time that I heard a Lefty refer to VN as 'Nixon's War'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 18, 2025 02:25 PM (XeU6L)

125 117 I'm not sure what "pressure" Trump put on Pootin. He was willing to come to the table. That's the biggest difference.

Yeah, Trump says things, but in the end, if a deal comes out of this, it won't be due to Trump pressure, it will be due to Russia wanting this thing to have ended, and the West finally coming to the reality that they can't win.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 18, 2025 02:24 PM (dGCAG)

=======

Punishing India for buying Russian oil was not a real thing, apparently.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 18, 2025 02:25 PM (GBKbO)

126 Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 18, 2025 02:23 PM (i24o9)

There was a lot of Haley For Prez talk in 2018 and 2019. It's hard for people to separate doing a good job and understanding the political winds from being remotely trustworthy or reliable.

Posted by: ... at August 18, 2025 02:25 PM (E0p3T)

127 17 Trump Expects to Have a Three-Way
.....

Melania is OK with that?

Posted by: wth at August 18, 2025 02:13 PM (UjdFS)

Yeah, I had to read a bit further myself...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 18, 2025 02:25 PM (ynpvh)

128 Don't think Z will act up today.

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Is there a piano in the White House he can use to entertain the guests?

Posted by: ShainS -- Donald the Lionhearted 2028! at August 18, 2025 02:25 PM (XeqRV)

129 You know the left is horrified of the possibility that Trump will get this done.
I mean, FFS, what else to make of spinning not getting a cease-fire agreement in the AK meeting as a failure?

How long has this war been going on?
And not once, not one time, did Biden even take a phone call from Putin?
We're not building on negotiations that have been on-going, we're building from scratch.

The same people screaming loudest about "shaking hands with a war criminal" are the self-same shitstained assholes that were cheering Obama and Biden rewarding Iran with billions despite them being directly responsible for tens of thousands of US military deaths.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 18, 2025 02:26 PM (tlI68)

130 Margaret Brennan really that stupid or is that just a role she plays?
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She is incapable of achieving orgasm if she hasn't been publicly humiliated in the last week. And she is a nymphomaniac. Which is a bad combo. But perfectly explains he career.

Posted by: I'm not Dr. Phil at August 18, 2025 02:26 PM (UCRIj)

131 I see him as one of the most potent, "Run as a conservative, govern as a neocon," example we could come up with.

He's in line because he answers to someone, Trump. If Rubio's the top dog? Hell, no.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 18, 2025 02:21 PM (GBKbO)

While I'm not going to be voting for him, either, our real problem is to make it in a president's best interest to govern from the right.

We just need to make it clear he'll be a hated pariah forever if he* does amnesty. (Or any of the other issues the gopE will backstab us on.)

(*Whoever he is)

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 18, 2025 02:26 PM (N1tpc)

132 I expect to have a three way with Sidney Sweeny and Sofia Vergara
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They could suffocate you.
Posted by: Still lurking up north, read some, don't comment much at August 18, 2025 02:19 PM (kTd/k)

I'm willing to take one for the team. Or two or three.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at August 18, 2025 02:26 PM (/HDaX)

133 17 Trump Expects to Have a Three-Way
.....

Melania is OK with that?

Posted by: wth at August 18, 2025 02:13 PM (UjdFS)

If he did that things could get Stormy...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 18, 2025 02:26 PM (ynpvh)

134 Every day I change my mind on who I want the next Republican president to be.
Right now it's between Vance, Rubio and DeSantis.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 18, 2025 02:25 PM (NpAcC)

I'll take that over Newsom, Pritzker, and AOC

Posted by: It's me donna at August 18, 2025 02:26 PM (VE6XX)

135 I don't like Zelensky, but Putin can't be trusted.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 18, 2025 02:26 PM (NpAcC)

136 122 Every day I change my mind on who I want the next Republican president to be.
Right now it's between Vance, Rubio and DeSantis.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 18, 2025 02:25 PM (NpAcC)

======

That our side ever thinks that Marco "I got duped by Chuck Schumer into advocating for amnesty because I believed the RNC autopsy of 2012" Rubio should be president amuses me.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 18, 2025 02:26 PM (GBKbO)

137 Trump has the power to crater Russia's economy.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 18, 2025 02:26 PM (viF8m)

138 My question for the Ukraine-at-all-costs is, how does this end?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 18, 2025 02:24 PM (bwb3L)
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With enriched bank accounts, that's for sure.

Posted by: Axeman at August 18, 2025 02:27 PM (krQz2)

139 Death...by Snu-Snu.

Posted by: toby928 at August 18, 2025 02:27 PM (jc0TO)

140 What Ukraine did, usually, is make it very costly, time consuming, and even embarrassing to Russia so they will be reluctant to consider this next time. So despite its horrors, it was useful and served a purpose.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 18, 2025 02:20 PM (dfIr7)

That's the "save face" belief. I'm ok with Americans believing it, even if it's really not true.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 18, 2025 02:27 PM (dGCAG)

141 I'd rather see Vance for President as Marco stays on as his SoS

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Marco is making a strong case for himself right now.

Maybe JD will like the VP role - especially with kids - and we will see a Rubio / Vance ticket. Kind of like being a back up QB. A great lifestyle for many.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at August 18, 2025 02:27 PM (sX1BW)

142 Trump has the power to crater Russia's economy.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 18, 2025 02:26 PM (viF8m)
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It's only the size of New York's, last I heard.

Posted by: Axeman at August 18, 2025 02:27 PM (krQz2)

143 139 Death...by Snu-Snu.

Posted by: toby928 at August 18, 2025 02:27 PM (jc0TO)

Yes?

Posted by: Tank Abrams at August 18, 2025 02:27 PM (ynpvh)

144 Zelensky said Sunday that Kyiv will not surrender territory not currently occupied by Russian forces
......

That is very different than what he was saying just weeks ago.

Posted by: Thomans Paine at August 18, 2025 02:27 PM (0U5gm)

145 For once Zelensky did not where a T-Shirt !!!

Wonder if Trump said put on something that doesn't look like a Gym Rat because you are coming to my house.

Posted by: Jackson at August 18, 2025 02:28 PM (q/j2W)

146 Trump is the GOAT:

@amlivemon
Trump making them sit and wait like schoolchildren waiting to see the headmaster.

https://tinyurl.com/57j63hpr

Posted by: IrishEi at August 18, 2025 02:28 PM (3ImbR)

147 Punishing India for buying Russian oil was not a real thing, apparently.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 18, 2025 02:25 PM (GBKbO)

Yeah, it really wasn't.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 18, 2025 02:28 PM (dGCAG)

148 Let this sink in: Washington, D.C. had 497 carjackings in 2024 and already 190 this year. Since the new crime initiative launched last week? Just ONE

D's are doubling down on the "there is no crime in big blue cities" argument:

I must emphasize that for anyone who has lived in any big American city, these Republican men are almost indescribably pathetic. I have lived in New York, D.C., and Philadelphia, and as a habitual walker who didn’t own a car for most of that time, I have spent literally thousands of hours walking and cycling all over those cities, usually by myself, and often after dark. The one time I experienced any actual crime against my person was when some dumb Philly pranksters shot me with an airsoft gun before speeding off. It did little more than startle me.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 18, 2025 02:28 PM (xTIDn)

149 Very broadly it appears the left sought to drive a wedge between better US and Russia relations for infantile and specious reasons. The old school realpolitik was trying to ensure Russia and China were played off against each other.

Russia has never been our ally, not in recent centuries anyhow, but, they could have been a bulwark against China and insofar as common interests align but the leftists have other designs.

Energy, foodstuffs, aerospace metals, fertilizer, nuclear fuel reprocessing, many avenues of mutual trade possibilities if nothing else. Just stupid.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 18, 2025 02:28 PM (Ft/w+)

150 47 A power mad psychopath who will say and actually do the right things to attain power is The American Dream.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 18, 2025 02:16 PM (VoAdT)
I do not believe that the solution to our problem is simply to elect the right people. The important thing is to establish a political climate of opinion which will make it politically profitable for the wrong people to do the right thing. Unless it is politically profitable for the wrong people to do the right thing, the right people will not do the right thing either, or it they try, they will shortly be out of office.
Milton Friedman

Posted by: tankdemon at August 18, 2025 02:28 PM (uHCmv)

151 147 Punishing India for buying Russian oil was not a real thing, apparently.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 18, 2025 02:25 PM (GBKbO)

Yeah, it really wasn't.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 18, 2025 02:28 PM (dGCAG)

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And then Putin came to the table.

Complete coincidence.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 18, 2025 02:28 PM (GBKbO)

152 I believe we should withhold US support for any deal until both sides concede that its NOT pronouced "KEEV".
Posted by: Crusader at August 18, 2025 02:24 PM (TN0g+)

There are five E's in KEEEEEV.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 18, 2025 02:28 PM (VoAdT)

153 So soon after pride month?

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at August 18, 2025 02:28 PM (OvtP6)

154 Is there a piano in the White House he can use to entertain the guests?
Posted by: ShainS -- Donald the Lionhearted 2028! at August 18, 2025 02:25 PM (XeqRV)

Heh.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at August 18, 2025 02:28 PM (1GTvn)

155
Trump has the power to crater Russia's economy.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 18, 2025 02:26 PM (viF8m)

________

The Yurps could tell Russia, "We're not buying any more of your natural gas." But that would be a bit too courageous.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 18, 2025 02:28 PM (bwb3L)

156 It's amazing. "Journalists" are some of dumbest motherfuckers on the planet, yet believe they are brilliant. Of course you go through all the diplomatic niceties, that's just how this shit is done, even if you hate the other person's guts. I guess they wanted PDT to give Putin the same treatment Obama gave Netanyahu? Oh and let's not forget Obama literally bowing and scraping and sniveling to other world leaders during his apology and cocksucking tour.

Posted by: fuck these people at August 18, 2025 02:29 PM (TbWk/)

157 We should be sure to include a Hawaiian judge in these peace negotiations.

Posted by: Cray Cray at August 18, 2025 02:29 PM (72RMx)

158 >>Putin can't be trusted.

You can trust Putin to be Putin. That's enough.

Posted by: garrett at August 18, 2025 02:29 PM (Z1dZR)

159 There was a lot of Haley For Prez talk in 2018 and 2019. It's hard for people to separate doing a good job and understanding the political winds from being remotely trustworthy or reliable.

Posted by: ... at August 18, 2025 02:25 PM (E0p3T)

Yeah, there was a lot of following in 2016 on illegal immigration. One person lead, and nobody else was talking about it (other than in terms of amnesty) before then.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 18, 2025 02:29 PM (i24o9)

160 coming in hot and hard ladies! hot and hard!!

Posted by: flyin' green dildo at August 18, 2025 02:29 PM (EFZgU)

161 I'm not sure what "pressure" Trump put on Pootin. He was willing to come to the table. That's the biggest difference.

Yeah, Trump says things, but in the end, if a deal comes out of this, it won't be due to Trump pressure, it will be due to Russia wanting this thing to have ended, and the West finally coming to the reality that they can't win.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 18, 2025 02:24 PM (dGCAG

Russia could do this for another 20 years if they wanted. It's what they do and have been doing.

Putin came to the table because Trump imposed genuine sanctions and closed loopholes in the original "sanctions". We and Europe have helped fund both sides of this war until this last few months.

You think Putin came to the table by magic or because Trump asked really really really nicely? No. Trump put the offer on the table and when Putin balked, Trump found places to squeeze.

Posted by: ... at August 18, 2025 02:29 PM (E0p3T)

162 There was a lot of Haley For Prez talk in 2018 and 2019. It's hard for people to separate doing a good job and understanding the political winds from being remotely trustworthy or reliable.

Posted by: ... at August 18, 2025 02:25 PM (E0p3T)

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I've heard whispers of Scott Bessent for Prez.

/Our 2nd gay POTUS?

Posted by: ShainS -- Donald the Lionhearted 2028! at August 18, 2025 02:29 PM (XeqRV)

163 The dogs are getting uppity.

https://is.gd/b1xdO9

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at August 18, 2025 02:30 PM (L/fGl)

164 I don't like Zelensky, but Putin can't be trusted.
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That type of statement leaves the implication that Zelensky can be trusted?

Posted by: Crusader at August 18, 2025 02:30 PM (TN0g+)

165 The way forward is to convert Ukraine into a Palestinian state.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at August 18, 2025 02:30 PM (9vYpt)

166 Wonder if Trump said put on something that doesn't look like a Gym Rat because you are coming to my house.

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Not his house. Our house. Trump doesn't own it. No president does.

Posted by: Diabeetus at August 18, 2025 02:30 PM (p8iTN)

167
Keeev >>>> Keeef

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 18, 2025 02:30 PM (bwb3L)

168 >>It's only the size of New York's, last I heard.

Russia's dominant export is oil and gas. He's already been telling two of Russia's biggest customers, China and India, that he will put secondary tariffs on them if they buy Russian oil as long as the war is going on.

I'm sure a few phone calls have been made.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 18, 2025 02:30 PM (viF8m)

169 2016 Rubio: "I was against amnesty before I was for it and now I'm against it again."

In so many words.

Rubio is a self-promoting snake in the grass, who is currently doing our bidding. Let's not be fooled again.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 18, 2025 02:23 PM (i24o9)
*******
Remember Trump and the amnesty for dreamers that almost was.
Both have evolved.
Rubio might end up being VP for Vance or DeSantis.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 18, 2025 02:30 PM (NpAcC)

170 >>It's only the size of New York's, last I heard.
Posted by: Axeman at August 18, 2025 02:27 PM (krQz2)

It's really just a Gas Station.

Posted by: garrett at August 18, 2025 02:31 PM (Z1dZR)

171 The Russians can't overrun Ukraine and Ukraine can't take back the territory taken. So does this just go on and on? I don't know if Trump has the solution but at least he's trying.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 18, 2025 02:24 PM (bwb3L)

I believe Russia CAN overrun Ukraine.

People don't realize they haven't been going all out, because part of Western media narrative has been to laugh and point at out inept they are. And then at the same time claiming he's going to overrun all of Europe.

Hopefully Trump's efforts will succeed because the alternative is Russia showing the world what it's capable of.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 18, 2025 02:31 PM (dGCAG)

172 Note: I had about a 75% accurate reiteration of the first half of that Friedman quote in the Google search bar, and it could not direct me to the actual quote. Copy and paste same search to Duck Duck Go and Friedman was the first entry.

Posted by: tankdemon at August 18, 2025 02:31 PM (uHCmv)

173 157 We should be sure to include a Hawaiian judge in these peace negotiations.
Posted by: Cray Cray at August 18, 2025 02:29 PM (72RMx)

******

Between you and me, that is funny.

But a bunch of people of the left would read that and think, "you know, that's a pretty good idea..."

Posted by: EFG at August 18, 2025 02:31 PM (6Y7N9)

174 That our side ever thinks that Marco "I got duped by Chuck Schumer into advocating for amnesty because I believed the RNC autopsy of 2012" Rubio should be president amuses me.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 18, 2025 02:26 PM (GBKbO)

gotta say I agree ... he was a squish for too long. as a subordinate to a MAGA hardliner his behavior seems acceptable so far, but I'm not trusting him as a leader, no way.
he had his chance, and blew it.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 18, 2025 02:31 PM (ppG5b)

175
Rubio is a self-promoting snake in the grass

_________

No sneks

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 18, 2025 02:31 PM (bwb3L)

176 I've heard whispers of Scott Bessent for Prez.

/Our 2nd gay POTUS?
Posted by: ShainS -- Donald the Lionhearted 2028! at August 18, 2025 02:29 PM (XeqRV)
---
Our first openly-gay president--and honest about it.

Posted by: Axeman at August 18, 2025 02:31 PM (krQz2)

177 how come there is no restaurant called African American Barrel?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at August 18, 2025 02:22 PM (L/fGl)

* types * deletes * types * deletes

I got nothin'.

Posted by: Reforger at August 18, 2025 02:32 PM (pxUkb)

178 160 coming in hot and hard ladies! hot and hard!!

Posted by: flyin' green dildo at August 18, 2025 02:29 PM (EFZgU)

Fried Green Tomatoes >>> Flying Green Dildos

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 18, 2025 02:32 PM (ynpvh)

179 Martha Raddatz looks like 5 miles of bad road. For the love of God, woman, it's time to hang up your spikes. It was time 20 years ago.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 18, 2025 02:32 PM (Riz8t)

180 So ... if by some miracle this wars ends, what's the next Big New Conflict that the USA absolutely must plow endless billions into?

Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 18, 2025 02:32 PM (iFTx/)

181 >>It's only the size of New York's, last I heard.
Posted by: Axeman at August 18, 2025 02:27 PM (krQz2)

It's really just a Gas Station.
Posted by: garrett at August 18, 2025 02:31 PM

It's Exxon, with nukes.

Posted by: toby928 at August 18, 2025 02:32 PM (jc0TO)

182 Death...by Snu-Snu.
Posted by: toby928 at August 18, 2025 02:27 PM (jc0TO)

It's not a bad way to go.

Posted by: Nelson Rockefeller at August 18, 2025 02:33 PM (wVcYX)

183 174 gotta say I agree ... he was a squish for too long. as a subordinate to a MAGA hardliner his behavior seems acceptable so far, but I'm not trusting him as a leader, no way.
he had his chance, and blew it.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 18, 2025 02:31 PM (ppG5b)

========

His reputation is rising because he's a hardliner SoS under a president who is seeking peace dividends.

I don't see how that translates to Rubio being a president seeking peace dividends rather than a...hardliner president who wants to throw the weight of the US around.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 18, 2025 02:33 PM (GBKbO)

184 The Russians can't overrun Ukraine and Ukraine can't take back the territory taken.

Ukraine is running out of men.

As on the Western Front in August, 1918, the front is stable until it's not.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 18, 2025 02:33 PM (xTIDn)

185 Rubio 3.0 is a completely different beast.

Posted by: garrett at August 18, 2025 02:13 PM (Z1dZR)

No shit man. I would have never in a million years thought that he would eventually need a C-130 landing gear structure to crank his balls up in place so he could sit in a car.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 18, 2025 02:33 PM (snZF9)

186 Remember Trump and the amnesty for dreamers that almost was.
Both have evolved.
Rubio might end up being VP for Vance or DeSantis.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 18, 2025 02:30 PM (NpAcC)

Trump didn't evolve in office. He got to the office and fought to keep promises from the moment he was elected. Rubio got elected and backstabbed and frontstabbed everyone who brought him. He's Puerto Rican McCain. There is no comparison.

Posted by: ... at August 18, 2025 02:33 PM (E0p3T)

187 Trump has the power to crater Russia's economy.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 18, 2025 02:26 PM (viF8m)

How? They are one of the most sanshunned countries on planet earth, and their economy is still standing? When your country (Russia) is a commodity superpower, it is very hard to crater. Oh, by the way, Iran's economy is still functioning, and they are sankshunned to the gills. China has become a huge trading partner with Russia with the implementation of sankshunns.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, Ltd. at August 18, 2025 02:33 PM (AdHga)

188 It occurs to me that both Putin and Little-Z are well aware of the US involvement in fomenting this war.

Both probably think they've got the stronger position in any negotiations. Tough call on that.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 18, 2025 02:33 PM (Q4IgG)

189 You think Putin came to the table by magic or because Trump asked really really really nicely? No. Trump put the offer on the table and when Putin balked, Trump found places to squeeze.
Posted by: ... at August 18, 2025 02:29 PM (E0p3T)

No, I think what happened is Trump did what he does, which is make a lot of noise, and then quietly told Pootin he was ready.

I don't have a problem with it. Trump has to look like the Big Kahuna. As long as a deal is struck, that's all that matters.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 18, 2025 02:33 PM (dGCAG)

190 111 Fossils like Raddatz managing to hang onto that job is like the old Congress critters and Senators who don't know when to leave
Posted by: Smell the Glove

Yes, some women have no shame!

Posted by: Lesley Stahl's Dessicated Corpse at August 18, 2025 02:33 PM (G5+As)

191 That type of statement leaves the implication that Zelensky can be trusted?
Posted by: Crusader at August 18, 2025 02:30 PM (TN0g+)

Perhaps you could say he can be relied on to do what you think he will do. He's no eminence gris. He's no scheming tactician. He's a comedian dressed up as President Commando for Halloween.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 18, 2025 02:33 PM (VoAdT)

192 180 So ... if by some miracle this wars ends, what's the next Big New Conflict that the USA absolutely must plow endless billions into?
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 18, 2025 02:32 PM (iFTx/)

=======

Kazakhstan vs. Antartica.

For freedom. And democracy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 18, 2025 02:34 PM (GBKbO)

193 120
My question for the Ukraine-at-all-costs is, how does this end? Absent a political collapse on either side? The Russians can't overrun Ukraine and Ukraine can't take back the territory taken. So does this just go on and on? I don't know if Trump has the solution but at least he's trying.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 18, 2025 02:24 PM (bwb3L)

The EU (and the UK) want this to continue until Putin is assassinated.

That's not going to happen.

Posted by: XTC at August 18, 2025 02:34 PM (UnA8+)

194 That type of statement leaves the implication that Zelensky can be trusted?
Posted by: Crusader at August 18, 2025 02:30 PM (TN0g+)
******
If I had to bet money and I could only choose Putin or Zelensky. I would bet Putin couldn't be trusted more.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 18, 2025 02:34 PM (NpAcC)

195 coming in hot and hard ladies! hot and hard!!
===
I saw some 60 something lady wearing a "pay us what you owe us" t shirt at a baseball game over the weekend. I kept waiting for a rubber dong to fly out of the upper deck and conk her. No dongs encountered for her. Not surprising.

Posted by: I'm not Dr. Phil at August 18, 2025 02:34 PM (UCRIj)

196 190 111 Fossils like Raddatz managing to hang onto that job is like the old Congress critters and Senators who don't know when to leave
Posted by: Smell the Glove

Yes, some women have no shame!
Posted by: Lesley Stahl's Dessicated Corpse at August 18, 2025 02:33 PM (G5+As)

They are the skeletons in the closet.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 18, 2025 02:34 PM (VoAdT)

197 I like Vance. And I prefer him to become the follow-up to Trump, right now.

But I would also say that part of the game of politics is knowing how to advance your brand, and I could say the same thing about Vance's early opposition to Trump as I can say about Rubio.

Trump's different. He didn't sign on to be a "politician" but wanted to be a "president". Not as the summit of his chosen profession, but as somebody that could stop playing the messaging games of DC and set it back on course.

Posted by: Axeman at August 18, 2025 02:34 PM (krQz2)

198 156 I guess they wanted PDT to give Putin the same treatment Obama gave Netanyahu?
Posted by: fuck these people at August 18, 2025 02:29 PM (TbWk/)

What they really wanted was Trump to put Putin in cuffs and send him to the ICC.

Posted by: tankdemon at August 18, 2025 02:34 PM (uHCmv)

199 >>How? They are one of the most sanshunned countries on planet earth, and their economy is still standing? When your country (Russia) is a commodity superpower, it is very hard to crater. Oh, by the way, Iran's economy is still functioning, and they are sankshunned to the gills. China has become a huge trading partner with Russia with the implementation of sankshunns.

Secondary sanctions.

Iran is about to run out of water.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 18, 2025 02:34 PM (viF8m)

200 That's a stretch to say z is wearing a suit. The fake ninja look doesn't work.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 18, 2025 02:34 PM (dxWFK)

201 [Meanwhile, closer to home two days ago (I'm pretty sure it's dead, Jim):]

Don Keith
@RealDonKeith

Aug 16
40,000 Muslims filled the streets of Dearborn Michigan today for the largest Arbaeen march in America. We aren’t in Kansas anymore.

--------------

Laura Loomer
@LauraLoomer

Not a single American flag.

https://is.gd/JX3IYT

Posted by: ShainS -- Donald the Lionhearted 2028! at August 18, 2025 02:35 PM (XeqRV)

202 It's not Trump's country to give away. Why would anyone ever think it was? Sounds like Neville Chamberlain. Give Hitler what he wants for "peace in our time."

Land swaps for peace means no Nobel Peace Prize. You can't call it peace when you bribe a dictator to stop waging war.

Desperate Putin can't win on his own, wants Felon and the US to be part of his arsenal. Is the GOP really OK with that?

Russia is now winning the Cold war. Russia used our own freedom of speech and democracy to make the US an authoritarian country, led by a man who has the same interests as Putin. It suggests the actual goal of Doge/Trump was to destroy our research strength, our universities' excellence and made lives harder for most Americans.

Of course. Trump is a traitor to democracy. No surprise there! What is surprising is all the morons in the US House and Senate that allow it to continue.

No other president would bully Ukraine to surrender areas not already occupied by Russia. Trump isn't fighting for peace in Ukraine, he's managing Russia's victory.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at August 18, 2025 02:35 PM (JCZqz)

203 “there is no crime in big blue cities" argument.

Really? Why then, are the gas stations security better armored and registers with that 3” thick glass partition? Better than most banks.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 18, 2025 02:35 PM (Ft/w+)

204
If they get rid of Martha Radditz, who is going to keep their crypts?

Posted by: Axeman at August 18, 2025 02:35 PM (krQz2)

205 No one can tell me that extra 'y' does anything but be annoying.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 18, 2025 02:35 PM (mlg/3)

206 I don't like Zelensky, but Putin can't be trusted.
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That type of statement leaves the implication that Zelensky can be trusted?
Posted by: Crusader at August 18, 2025 02:30 PM (TN0g+)

Or any politician, for that matter.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 18, 2025 02:35 PM (dGCAG)

207 Rubio: Trump tore him down as Little Marco, then built him back better.

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 18, 2025 02:35 PM (NtVYv)

208 The EU (and the UK) want this to continue until Putin is assassinated.

If Putin is assassinated, the EU-types think that they will get Yeltsin again.

In reality, they will get Ivan the Terrible again.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 18, 2025 02:35 PM (xTIDn)

209
Kazakhstan vs. Antartica.

For freedom. And democracy.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 18, 2025 02:34 PM (GBKbO)

No Blood for Big Penguin!

Posted by: Those mephitic flightless bastards at August 18, 2025 02:35 PM (TbWk/)

210 So ... if by some miracle this wars ends, what's the next Big New Conflict that the USA absolutely must plow endless billions into?
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 18, 2025 02:32 PM

It would have to be large, on the order of an Theocratic Islamic Oil State.

Posted by: toby928 at August 18, 2025 02:35 PM (jc0TO)

211
It's not a bad way to go.
Posted by: Nelson Rockefeller at August 18, 2025 02:33 PM (wVcYX)

__________

"True." - Félix Faure, President of France

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 18, 2025 02:35 PM (bwb3L)

212 So does this just go on and on?
==
He talking about us????

Posted by: N. Korea. And S. Korea at August 18, 2025 02:35 PM (UCRIj)

213 I don't have a problem with it. Trump has to look like the Big Kahuna. As long as a deal is struck, that's all that matters.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 18, 2025 02:33 PM (dGCAG)

What also matters is knowing your subject. Always helps more than it hurts.

Posted by: ... at August 18, 2025 02:36 PM (E0p3T)

214 Which is a bad combo. But perfectly explains he career.

This makes sense to me

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 18, 2025 02:36 PM (dfIr7)

215 It's Exxon, with nukes"

So, Texas...

Heh

Posted by: man at August 18, 2025 02:36 PM (tubbA)

216 That our side ever thinks that Marco "I got duped by Chuck Schumer into advocating for amnesty because I believed the RNC autopsy of 2012" Rubio should be president amuses me.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 18, 2025 02:26 PM (GBKbO)

gotta say I agree ... he was a squish for too long. as a subordinate to a MAGA hardliner his behavior seems acceptable so far, but I'm not trusting him as a leader, no way.
he had his chance, and blew it.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 18, 2025 02:31 PM (ppG5b)
______

Rubio has been extremely effective at carrying out Trump's policies. He's not been squishy at all. Just the opposite. I think he's good at following someone else's lead. I don't think he's good at being a leader or setting policy.

Also, keep in mind that Trump 1.0 was kinda squishy, and he too got rolled. Trump 2.0 learned that lesson, came back better prepared, and is now taking a nuclear-powered flamethrower mounted on a chainsaw with the Kung Fu Grip to the Democraps' entire apparatus. People can learn and come back stronger.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 18, 2025 02:36 PM (iFTx/)

217 Russia's dominant export is oil and gas. He's already been telling two of Russia's biggest customers, China and India, that he will put secondary tariffs on them if they buy Russian oil as long as the war is going on.

I'm sure a few phone calls have been made.
Posted by: JackStraw

We have no real power to stop them from buying it. They will do mid-ocean transfers and lie. Heck, we can't stop Europe from buying Russian energy, you think we will have better luck with the Chinese?

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at August 18, 2025 02:36 PM (vlkaB)

218 180 So ... if by some miracle this wars ends, what's the next Big New Conflict that the USA absolutely must plow endless billions into?
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 18, 2025 02:32 PM (iFTx/)

Canadian Civil War

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 18, 2025 02:36 PM (VoAdT)

219 203 “there is no crime in big blue cities" argument.

Really? Why then, are the gas stations security better armored and registers with that 3” thick glass partition? Better than most banks.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 18, 2025 02:35 PM (Ft/w+)

Depends on how you define and categorize crime...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 18, 2025 02:36 PM (ynpvh)

220 Russia is now winning the Cold war. Russia used our own freedom of speech and democracy to make the US an authoritarian country, led by a man who has the same interests as Putin. It suggests the actual goal of Doge/Trump was to destroy our research strength, our universities' excellence and made lives harder for most Americans.

Oh FFS....

Posted by: It's me donna at August 18, 2025 02:36 PM (VE6XX)

221 Why don't newsreaders call Paris Pareeeee? What's so special about Keeeeev?

Posted by: IrishEi at August 18, 2025 02:37 PM (3ImbR)

222 It's only the size of New York's, last I heard.
Posted by: Axeman at August 18, 2025 02:27 PM (krQz2)

It's really just a Gas Station.

Posted by: garrett

That gas station also is one of the top sources for nickel and potash in the world, along with a lot of gold.

Posted by: Thomans Paine at August 18, 2025 02:37 PM (0U5gm)

223 So ... if by some miracle this wars ends, what's the next Big New Conflict that the USA absolutely must plow endless billions into?
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I would hope we've learned our lesson. Billions and billions of dollars were WOOSHED out of our coffers before 99% of the country even had a hint of what was going on. I've never seen that size of spending go out so rapidly with so little explanation. By the time "we" woke up, the fleecing was complete.

Musk was only half-wrong with his new political party idea--the Republicans enabled a ton of grifting with their "support of Ukraine". "We" may have learned, but the Republicans learned only (and yet again) that grifting pays.

Posted by: Crusader at August 18, 2025 02:37 PM (TN0g+)

224 Land swaps for peace means no Nobel Peace Prize. You can't call it peace when you bribe a dictator to stop waging war

Translation: we believe that Trump will pull this off, so we need a way to argue its not a win

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 18, 2025 02:37 PM (dfIr7)

225 I would be equally inclined to support Tulsi or Rubio at this point.

I don't fully trust either of them, but I can imagine appeals from both that would garner my support.

Posted by: garrett at August 18, 2025 02:37 PM (Z1dZR)

226 Remember Trump and the amnesty for dreamers that almost was.
Both have evolved.
Rubio might end up being VP for Vance or DeSantis.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 18, 2025 02:30 PM (NpAcC)

Trump didn't evolve in office. He got to the office and fought to keep promises from the moment he was elected. Rubio got elected and backstabbed and frontstabbed everyone who brought him. He's Puerto Rican McCain. There is no comparison.
Posted by: ... at August 18, 2025 02:33 PM (E0p3T)
********
Look at people like Tulsi Gabbard and Brandon Straka.
2 of the many Dems that got red-pilled.
People can evolve.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 18, 2025 02:37 PM (NpAcC)

227 The Europeans are giving Russia more money for LNG than they are in weapons for the Ukes. Tell them to buy LNG from us now that Trump reversed the shut down. That will hurt Russia

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 18, 2025 02:38 PM (O3XOV)

228 I have a job interview at IKEA.

https://is.gd/teW0io

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at August 18, 2025 02:38 PM (L/fGl)

229 Iran is about to run out of water.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 18, 2025 02:34 PM (viF8m)

-------------------

From sanctions or too many people trying to live in a desert? Iran's birthrate is insane.

Posted by: Diabeetus at August 18, 2025 02:38 PM (p8iTN)

230 I saw some 60 something lady wearing a "pay us what you owe us" t shirt at a baseball game over the weekend. I kept waiting for a rubber dong to fly out of the upper deck and conk her. No dongs encountered for her. Not surprising.
Posted by: I'm not Dr. Phil at August 18, 2025 02:34 PM

ABCD, always be carrying the dong.

You never know when you will need it.

Posted by: toby928 at August 18, 2025 02:38 PM (jc0TO)

231 226 Look at people like Tulsi Gabbard and Brandon Straka.
2 of the many Dems that got red-pilled.
People can evolve.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 18, 2025 02:37 PM (NpAcC)

=======

I still think Tulsi wants to take away your guns.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 18, 2025 02:38 PM (GBKbO)

232 our universities' excellence...

-----

jumbo shrimp
military intelligence

Posted by: Crusader at August 18, 2025 02:38 PM (TN0g+)

233 “there is no crime in big blue cities" argument.

My favorite spin on this was a news organization putting up a map of crime in DC and claiming that Trump's efforts are all in the wrong area. After spending days claiming there was no crime.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 18, 2025 02:38 PM (dfIr7)

234 I don't have a problem with it. Trump has to look like the Big Kahuna. As long as a deal is struck, that's all that matters.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 18, 2025 02:33 PM (dGCAG)

What also matters is knowing your subject. Always helps more than it hurts.
Posted by: ... at August 18, 2025 02:36 PM (E0p3T)

Which is why Pootin doesn't really mind when Trump blusters.

Because he knows Trump.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 18, 2025 02:39 PM (dGCAG)

235 >>That gas station also is one of the top sources for nickel and potash in the world, along with a lot of gold.
Posted by: Thomans Paine at August 18, 2025 02:37 PM (0U5gm)

That was an infamous quote from a Maverick politician.

Posted by: garrett at August 18, 2025 02:39 PM (Z1dZR)

236 Remember Trump and the amnesty for dreamers that almost was.

Both have evolved.

Rubio might end up being VP for Vance or DeSantis.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 18, 2025 02:30 PM (NpAcC)

"Almost was" is more than a bit overly generous. It was an opening soundbite in which an exchange was proposed to bring an end to or severe limits on chain migration. It went nowhere, and it was primarily a tool used to try and separate Trump from his supporters.

As far as evolved, yes, I think Trump has gotten more savvy, so as to prevent handing his opposition such easy lay ups.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 18, 2025 02:39 PM (i24o9)

237 India imports 25 billion in Russian oil (that we were buying discount) like Folgers coffee, vs 75 billion in products they bought from us,

Posted by: miguel cervantes at August 18, 2025 02:39 PM (bXbFr)

238 Look at people like Tulsi Gabbard and Brandon Straka.
2 of the many Dems that got red-pilled.
People can evolve.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 18, 2025 02:37 PM (NpAcC)

=======

I still think Tulsi wants to take away your guns.
----------

She can wrestle me for mine.

Posted by: Crusader at August 18, 2025 02:39 PM (TN0g+)

239 If they get rid of Martha Radditz, who is going to keep their crypts?
==
They tried. They had a funeral and buried her and everything. She dug her way out of the grave and showed at work the following week, looking like she always did....like she just dug herself out of the grave.

Posted by: Impaler??? at August 18, 2025 02:39 PM (UCRIj)

240 ABCD, always be carrying the dong.

You never know when you will need it.
Posted by: toby928 at August 18, 2025 02:38 PM (jc0TO)

Just don't carry OWB...

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 18, 2025 02:39 PM (VoAdT)

241 But if we don't have war to keep the shit-hole population in check, what's the fall-back? Plague? Famine? Help me out here.

Posted by: Thomas Malthus at August 18, 2025 02:39 PM (pMi6S)

242 Rubio has been extremely effective at carrying out Trump's policies. He's not been squishy at all. Just the opposite. I think he's good at following someone else's lead. I don't think he's good at being a leader or setting policy.

Agree. He's doing Trump's bidding because he's well aware that if he doesn't, he's gone from the administration, and with it goes whatever remains of his political career. I will never trust him again, any more than I'd trust John "What gun bill?" Cornyn.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 18, 2025 02:40 PM (Riz8t)

243 How did we jump from "We're pleasantly shocked that Rubio hasn't knifed Trump in the back yet" to insinuations of "The Horde thinks Rubio should be President"?

I don't think anyone here wants him to run.

Posted by: XTC at August 18, 2025 02:40 PM (UnA8+)

244 coming in hot and hard ladies! hot and hard!!
Posted by: flyin' green dildo
------

Straight, hot, and normal...for certain values of 'normal'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 18, 2025 02:40 PM (XeU6L)

245 Why don't newsreaders call Paris Pareeeee? What's so special about Keeeeev?

Posted by: IrishEi at August 18, 2025 02:37 PM (3ImbR)
---
They also need to do it with the French r, too, then!

And are their tones right for Beijing?

Posted by: Axeman at August 18, 2025 02:40 PM (krQz2)

246 Hey I heard Trump gave lil Zel a CIA fly drone fly by.
respect where respect is due

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at August 18, 2025 02:40 PM (VPPG8)

247 2016 Rubio: "I was against amnesty before I was for it and now I'm against it again."

In so many words.

Rubio is a self-promoting snake in the grass, who is currently doing our bidding. Let's not be fooled again.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 18, 2025 02:23 PM (i24o9)

There's something to be said for the wrong people doing the right thing but "Good Morning, Mr. President" isn't one of them.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 18, 2025 02:40 PM (ExV1e)

248 243 How did we jump from "We're pleasantly shocked that Rubio hasn't knifed Trump in the back yet" to insinuations of "The Horde thinks Rubio should be President"?

I don't think anyone here wants him to run.
Posted by: XTC at August 18, 2025 02:40 PM (UnA8+)

=======

Comments 69 and 122 started this.

It's not a strawman.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 18, 2025 02:40 PM (GBKbO)

249
Canadian Civil War
Posted by: Warai-otoko

_________

Oh, well, I can get behind that.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 18, 2025 02:40 PM (bwb3L)

250 What also matters is knowing your subject. Always helps more than it hurts.
Posted by: ... at August 18, 2025 02:36 PM (E0p3T)

Which is why Pootin doesn't really mind when Trump blusters.

Because he knows Trump.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 18, 2025 02:39 PM (dGCAG)

Which of course is also why Pootin didn't put any effort into speaking to Team Biden, because he couldn't ever be sure who was really in charge.

At least now, he does.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 18, 2025 02:40 PM (dGCAG)

251 Rubio takes Greenland, and then I'll reconsider my lack of support for him.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 18, 2025 02:41 PM (i24o9)

252 Iran's birthrate is insane.

Not at all.

Iran's total fertility rate is 1.67 - replacement is 2.1

Now Afghanistan, on the other hand... (4.66)

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 18, 2025 02:41 PM (xTIDn)

253 Rubio is a wartime consiglieri.

Posted by: toby928 at August 18, 2025 02:42 PM (jc0TO)

254 And are their tones right for Beijing?
Posted by: Axeman at August 18, 2025 02:40 PM (krQz2)

Tokyo is four syllables.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 18, 2025 02:42 PM (VoAdT)

255 252 Iran's birthrate is insane.

Not at all.

Iran's total fertility rate is 1.67 - replacement is 2.1

Now Afghanistan, on the other hand... (4.66)
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 18, 2025 02:41 PM (xTIDn)

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China's is apparently 0.6 through analysis of their vaccination records.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 18, 2025 02:42 PM (GBKbO)

256 ABCD, always be carrying the dong.

You never know when you will need it./i]

Scene: Toby up against a car, being frisked by a cop

COP: *holding up bright green silicone dildo* "So what's this about, mister?"

TOBY: "I might meet a WNBA fan"

COP: ..."OK that makes sense"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 18, 2025 02:42 PM (dfIr7)

257 Gas station, you say?

Posted by: Maximum Overdrive at August 18, 2025 02:42 PM (wVcYX)

258 Rubio, Vance and Tulsi are all real good a smacking around the propaganda ministries. They fight back while RINOs curl up in a fetal ball and suck their thumbs, see Romney v Crowley

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 18, 2025 02:42 PM (O3XOV)

259 The Art of the Deal
Rule 5. always to be prepared to pull out of the deal

Trump Confirms that He will Speak to Putin After Meetings with Zelensky and European Leaders – “We May or May Not Have a Trilateral… He’s Expecting my Call When We’re Finished.”

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at August 18, 2025 02:42 PM (VPPG8)

260 Does anyone know of any self-help books I can read or empowerment spas where I can go to learn how to hate Martha Raddatz more? I feel like I'm not hating her as much as I could if I had some training.

Posted by: MLCross at August 18, 2025 02:42 PM (Q2MxE)

261 You try crawling out from under that!

Posted by: Megan Marshack at August 18, 2025 02:42 PM (G5+As)

262 Putin could wipe out Zelenskyy and his entire cabal of grifters with a wave of his hand. This is all stupid shit, from day one.

Negotiate a deal, and let those who deserve to suffer, suffer.

Then provide relief to the unfortunate victims of this foolishness.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at August 18, 2025 02:42 PM (/vPt3)

263 Now Afghanistan, on the other hand... (4.66)
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 18, 2025 02:41 PM (xTIDn)

A lot of potential suicide vesters there...

Posted by: It's me donna at August 18, 2025 02:43 PM (VE6XX)

264 If Trump is Hitler and Putin is Stalin, then is the official name for this summit,

The Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact: Electric Bugaloo?

Posted by: zombie at August 18, 2025 02:43 PM (pMi6S)

265 From sanctions or too many people trying to live in a desert? Iran's birthrate is insane.

Iran's birthrate is well below replacement, but population growth inertia will keep the overall pop growing for a bit longer.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 18, 2025 02:43 PM (Riz8t)

266 That gas station also is one of the top sources for nickel and potash in the world, along with a lot of gold.

Russia occupies a sixth of the world's landmass.

They have a lot of minerals.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 18, 2025 02:43 PM (xTIDn)

267 Iran is about to run out of water.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 18, 2025 02:34 PM (viF8m)

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They should have hired the Jews to build them desalination plants.

/

Posted by: ShainS -- Donald the Lionhearted 2028! at August 18, 2025 02:43 PM (XeqRV)

268 I would not be surprised if they continued a low- level insurgency against the Russians for years going forward.

Ukraine also helped take the art and science of war decades ahead with their use of drones and AI.

No wonder Palantir was one of the first companies to get in the Ukraine War game.
Posted by: Diabeetus at August 18, 2025 02:23 PM (p8iTN)

1. The parts of Ukraine under Russian control are largely the parts filled with ethnic Russians who voted to become part of Russia.
2. If the rest of Ukraine decided to insurgent, then Russia would just start killing them all over again. I'm sure that'd make some people happy but I can't image that the young men of Ukraine are among them.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 18, 2025 02:43 PM (ExV1e)

269 Not his house. Our house. Trump doesn't own it. No president does.
——-

That’s a common interpretation, one which would make his sloppy dress even more egregious, not less.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 18, 2025 02:43 PM (Ft/w+)

270 How did we jump from "We're pleasantly shocked that Rubio hasn't knifed Trump in the back yet" to insinuations of "The Horde thinks Rubio should be President"?

I don't think anyone here wants him to run.
Posted by: XTC at August 18, 2025 02:40 PM (UnA8+)

=======

Comments 69 and 122 started this.

It's not a strawman.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 18, 2025 02:40 PM (GBKbO)
_____

Even if we wanted Rubio to run, where's his lane? I guess as a Hispanic guy he could add something to a ticket, but conservatives don't care about race, and the country as a whole is tired of tokenism.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 18, 2025 02:43 PM (iFTx/)

271 53 Rubio is a wartime consiglieri.
Posted by: toby928 at August 18, 2025 02:42 PM (jc0TO)

Nice

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at August 18, 2025 02:43 PM (VPPG8)

272 >> have no real power to stop them from buying it. They will do mid-ocean transfers and lie. Heck, we can't stop Europe from buying Russian energy, you think we will have better luck with the Chinese?

We had no real power to put tariffs on virtually every country on the planet. Yet we did.

If Russia's oil starts costing Russia's customer real money, that's power. Why do you think everyone is in DC right now? They didn't come because they like DC humidity in August.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 18, 2025 02:44 PM (viF8m)

273 >>Rubio, Vance and Tulsi are all real good a smacking around the propaganda ministries.

Please, Hold My Beer.

Posted by: Stephen Miller at August 18, 2025 02:44 PM (Z1dZR)

274 I don't think anyone here wants him to run.

Yeah there is a low end rumble on Twixxer sort of floating it but not here. He's a good employee, a useful attack dog but he spent all his points for Ego on Comeliness instead.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 18, 2025 02:44 PM (dfIr7)

275 They have a lot of minerals.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 18, 2025 02:43 PM (xTIDn)

And hookers

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 18, 2025 02:44 PM (NtVYv)

276 232 our universities' excellence...

-----

jumbo shrimp
military intelligence

Posted by: Crusader at August 18, 2025 02:38 PM (TN0g+)

One of my favorites:
Fresh Frozen, Real Immitation, Jumbo Shrimp.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 18, 2025 02:44 PM (ynpvh)

277 Never understood the "jumbo shrimp" oxymoron. Shrimp is the name of the creature. People are called shrimps because they are little. Shrimp were called shrimp before that.

Posted by: Mikey Alpha Kilo at Werk at August 18, 2025 02:44 PM (PSEDc)

278 258 Rubio, Vance and Tulsi are all real good a smacking around the propaganda ministries. They fight back while RINOs curl up in a fetal ball and suck their thumbs, see Romney v Crowley
Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 18, 2025 02:42 PM (O3XOV)

They behave when Trump has them on a leash.

There's no guarantee they continue to once he's no longer holding onto it.

Posted by: XTC at August 18, 2025 02:44 PM (UnA8+)

279 Does anyone know of any self-help books I can read or empowerment spas where I can go to learn how to hate Martha Raddatz more? I feel like I'm not hating her as much as I could if I had some training.

Posted by: MLCross at August 18, 2025 02:42 PM (Q2MxE)

Stare at a headshot of her and punch yourself in the dick 100 times. Worked for me.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 18, 2025 02:44 PM (i24o9)

280 270 Even if we wanted Rubio to run, where's his lane? I guess as a Hispanic guy he could add something to a ticket, but conservatives don't care about race, and the country as a whole is tired of tokenism.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 18, 2025 02:43 PM (iFTx/)

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He's running consistently #2 in early polls (spit).

Name recognition does a lot.

But...he's consistently dozens of points in second place behind Vance.

Name recognition does a lot.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 18, 2025 02:44 PM (GBKbO)

281 Nice
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at August 18, 2025 02:43 PM

Stolen from some other Moron.

Posted by: toby928 at August 18, 2025 02:44 PM (jc0TO)

282 This is on point.

https://is.gd/qLO0O0

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at August 18, 2025 02:45 PM (L/fGl)

283 yeah hold off on the pudding cups for now,

just ring the crypts in garlic and it will be fine,

Posted by: miguel cervantes at August 18, 2025 02:45 PM (bXbFr)

284 There's no guarantee they continue to once he's no longer holding onto it.

Posted by: XTC at August 18, 2025 02:44 PM (UnA8+)

Exactly. There is no benefit of doubt anymore.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 18, 2025 02:45 PM (i24o9)

285 Iran's birthrate is well below replacement, but population growth inertia will keep the overall pop growing for a bit longer.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 18, 2025 02:43 PM (Riz8t)

----------------

True. Overall way too many people living in a place than can't sustain almost 100 million (estimated 2050 population).

Posted by: Diabeetus at August 18, 2025 02:45 PM (p8iTN)

286 “there is no crime in big blue cities" argument.

Really? Why then, are the gas stations security better armored and registers with that 3” thick glass partition? Better than most banks.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 18, 2025 02:35 PM (Ft/w+)

About 15 years ago I was in Puerto Rico. Where I was it seemed like every frigging building, housing complex, etc had bars on the windows. Ground floor, second floor, 3rd floor. It looked like a giant prison. I asked the driver about all the bars on the windows. Mumbles in a thick spanish accent about it being part of the architecture, and tradition, and style, etc. I looked at him with a look that said bullshit, and then said oh really. Architecture my ass, the place was zombie proofed.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 18, 2025 02:45 PM (snZF9)

287 No one can tell me that extra 'y' does anything but be annoying.
——-

Tits and ass. And Sammiches!!

Posted by: Common Tater at August 18, 2025 02:46 PM (Ft/w+)

288 >>I've heard whispers of Scott Bessent for Prez.

/Our 2nd gay POTUS?
__
I had no idea that Bessent was gay. Probably because he hasn't made a big thing about it or demanded that we praise him for it. Just a person doing their job. And doing it pretty damn well.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at August 18, 2025 02:46 PM (bNf8H)

289 Rhode Island assistant Attorney General, Devon Flanagan channels the spirit of Rosemary Lehmberg -
x.com/DefiantLs/status/1957504897793827284
... the spirit in question being five shots of rum.

Posted by: gKWVE at August 18, 2025 02:46 PM (gKWVE)

290 Depends on how you define and categorize crime...
_____

That server didn't know who I was!

Posted by: Senator A. Fartsniffer at August 18, 2025 02:46 PM (Dv3i1)

291 Whoever Trump anoints as his successor is going to be the nominee. So far, Vance appears to be the nominee.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 18, 2025 02:46 PM (viF8m)

292 Lil' Marco is playing the long game, auditioning to be Vance's VP.

Posted by: Bottle of Water at August 18, 2025 02:46 PM (guCHD)

293 >>>the ill-prepared DEI hire Margaret Brennan

She is too much. She is really too much. "But, but, but whine whine whine." Enough!

Posted by: m at August 18, 2025 02:47 PM (aURVT)

294 Even if we wanted Rubio to run, where's his lane? I guess as a Hispanic guy he could add something to a ticket, but conservatives don't care about race, and the country as a whole is tired of tokenism.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 18, 2025 02:43 PM (iFTx/)

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He's running consistently #2 in early polls (spit).

Name recognition does a lot.

But...he's consistently dozens of points in second place behind Vance.

Name recognition does a lot.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 18, 2025 02:44 PM (GBKbO)
______

Rubio is obviously not gonna be at the top in 2028. It's Vance's for the taking. Not even close. Now, anything is possible and Trump could totally collapse between now and then, but that would be highly unusual. There's a 99.99% chance that Vance is the candidate in 2028.

My point was that I don't really even see a lane for Rubio at the bottom of the ticket.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 18, 2025 02:47 PM (iFTx/)

295 May I take this opportunity of emphasizing that there is no violent crime in DC. Absolutely none.

And when I say "none", I mean there is a certain amount, more than we are prepared to admit, but all citizens are warned that if they wake up in the morning and find themselves bleeding in an alley, they're to tell me immediately so that I can immediately take every measure to hush the whole thing up.

Posted by: DC Chief of Police at August 18, 2025 02:48 PM (krQz2)

296 Rubio is obviously not gonna be at the top in 2028. It's Vance's for the taking. Not even close. Now, anything is possible and Trump could totally collapse between now and then, but that would be highly unusual. There's a 99.99% chance that Vance is the candidate in 2028.

My point was that I don't really even see a lane for Rubio at the bottom of the ticket.

It's my guess that Vance will head the ticket, and veep will be offered to DeSantis. Whether he'll take it is a different question.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 18, 2025 02:49 PM (Riz8t)

297 294 Rubio is obviously not gonna be at the top in 2028. It's Vance's for the taking. Not even close. Now, anything is possible and Trump could totally collapse between now and then, but that would be highly unusual. There's a 99.99% chance that Vance is the candidate in 2028.

My point was that I don't really even see a lane for Rubio at the bottom of the ticket.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 18, 2025 02:47 PM (iFTx/)

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Since VP is about consolidation of higher power opinion, and not about what anyone below cares about, it all depends on what Vance would want to do in this hypothetical.

Rubio could mean a combination of continuation of Trump as well as a coalition with whatever neocons have become in the GOP as represented by Rubio.

Vance going with Stephen Miller would be hilarious, though. Imagine that signal. (not a prediction, just a random thought)

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 18, 2025 02:49 PM (GBKbO)

298 >>Whoever Trump anoints as his successor is going to be the nominee. So far, Vance appears to be the nominee.

There will still be a field of candidates.
Which is where you will get hints of the others actual motivation.

There's a reason I use 3.0 as Rubio's current assignation. We have seen the previous Models, and we have rejected them.

Posted by: garrett at August 18, 2025 02:49 PM (Z1dZR)

299 "No crime in D.C."

Bondi announces 68 arrests in D.C. last night.

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 18, 2025 02:49 PM (wVcYX)

300 300

Posted by: m at August 18, 2025 02:49 PM (aURVT)

301 How did we jump from "We're pleasantly shocked that Rubio hasn't knifed Trump in the back yet" to insinuations of "The Horde thinks Rubio should be President"?

I don't think anyone here wants him to run.
Posted by: XTC at August 18, 2025 02:40 PM (UnA8+)

=======

Comments 69 and 122 started this.

It's not a strawman.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 18, 2025 02:40 PM (GBKbO)
*****
And JD Vance once thought Trump was like Hitler.
So I am open to Vance, Rubio or DeSantis for the next POTUS.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 18, 2025 02:49 PM (NpAcC)

302 The generation gap.

https://is.gd/yvyHPr

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at August 18, 2025 02:50 PM (L/fGl)

303 299 "No crime in D.C."

Bondi announces 68 arrests in D.C. last night.
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 18, 2025 02:49 PM (wVcYX)

Now less crime in D.C.!

Posted by: m at August 18, 2025 02:50 PM (aURVT)

304 301 *****
And JD Vance once thought Trump was like Hitler.
So I am open to Vance, Rubio or DeSantis for the next POTUS.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 18, 2025 02:49 PM (NpAcC)

=======

I'm more okay with a private citizen shitposting about Trump than I am with an elected Republican with presidential ambitions deciding that carrying Chuck Schumer's water on amnesty is a good idea.

Still, I'll probably end up voting for some guy who's already dropped out of the primary like I do half the time.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 18, 2025 02:50 PM (GBKbO)

305 I guess as a Hispanic guy he could add something to a ticket, but conservatives don't care about race, and the country as a whole is tired of tokenism.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 18, 2025 02:43 PM (iFTx/)

More so, we are tired of being made promises ("If we only had have the House . . . ," "If we only had have the Senate . . . ," "If we only had have the POTUS . . . .") and then getting shit on as soon as we, the American people, deliver political power.

Rubio came up as part of that ilk, and he is rightly distrusted as being of part of that.

Greenland snark aside, I don't know that there's anything he could do to salvage that for me, but I suppose he could surprise me. Too many give it up too easily for my tastes.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 18, 2025 02:50 PM (i24o9)

306 No one can tell me that extra 'y' does anything but be annoying.

For language purists, it does have a purpose: you do pronounce it "zeh-len'skee-ih" but its very small and subtle. Its spelled with two "ee" sounds at the end for that reason.

But practically, I'd probably drop it in English.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 18, 2025 02:50 PM (dfIr7)

307 We'll all be a-doublin' in 32 years...

Posted by: Pete Seeger, 1972 at August 18, 2025 02:51 PM (G5+As)

308 Why didn't you come to me like a man and tell me there was an ongoing crime problem in the District?

Posted by: DC Chief of Police at August 18, 2025 02:51 PM (wVcYX)

309 A Vance/Rubio ticket would bring a lot of Hispanic votes and also a lot of younger votes. Not a bad ticket. Put DeSantis at AG

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 18, 2025 02:51 PM (O3XOV)

310 The group pic. What the f' is up with Macron? He was almost standing on Trump's foot. The only way Macron could get closer to grab Trump by his dick.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at August 18, 2025 02:52 PM (9vYpt)

311 ... China's is apparently 0.6 through analysis of their vaccination records.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 18, 2025 02:42 PM (GBKbO)

There are all manner of You Tube deep dives on their coming population collapse.

Most of us 29ers won't be around to see it happen, but it sure do appear to be a certainty.

Posted by: browndog gnawing on bones at August 18, 2025 02:52 PM (TTAGa)

312
I'd like a rabid attack dog as VP. Someone to snarl at the RINOs that there's a new sheriff in town.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 18, 2025 02:52 PM (bwb3L)

313 I've heard whispers of Scott Bessent for Prez.

/Our 2nd gay POTUS?
__
I had no idea that Bessent was gay. Probably because he hasn't made a big thing about it or demanded that we praise him for it. Just a person doing their job. And doing it pretty damn well.
Posted by: Frasier Crane at August 18, 2025 02:46 PM (bNf8H)
_____

There are only three homosexual men in politics worth a squirt of piss: Bessent, Scott Presler, and Ric Grenell.

They are gay men.

All the rest are useless ass-pirate faggots.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 18, 2025 02:52 PM (iFTx/)

314 Russia has never been our ally, not in recent centuries anyhow, but, they could have been a bulwark against China and insofar as common interests align but the leftists have other designs.

The idea that some other country is going to be our ally in all things, at all times, forever, is foolishness. Nations should act in the interest of their citizens. We can align with as many countries as we can, on as many issues as we can, for as long as we can, and call it a day.

Oh, but Putin is a bad guy... So is Xi. So is pretty much everyone in SA, or Africa, or Asia. Unless he's fucking with us, which he wasn't until we fucked with him, who cares.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 18, 2025 02:52 PM (ExV1e)

315 Not at all.

Iran's total fertility rate is 1.67 - replacement is 2.1

Now Afghanistan, on the other hand... (4.66)
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 18, 2025 02:41 PM (xTIDn)

Iran's water problem is that it is governed by insane muzzies who are putting all their resources into building nuclear weapons instead of building dams and reservoirs.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 18, 2025 02:52 PM (lz/nK)

316 I guess as a Hispanic guy he could add something to a ticket, but conservatives don't care about race, and the country as a whole is tired of tokenism.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 18, 2025 02:43 PM (iFTx/)
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The target is a general election.

Just because Hispanic doesn't play to locked-in conservatives, doesn't mean it doesn't play anywhere.

You want crossover votes, as many as you can get.

Posted by: Axeman at August 18, 2025 02:52 PM (krQz2)

317 She is too much. She is really too much. "But, but, but whine whine whine." Enough
===
I need this job. I. Need. This. Job. Believe me. I NEED IT.

Posted by: Margaret Brennan at August 18, 2025 02:52 PM (UCRIj)

318 Why didn't you come to me like a man and tell me there was an ongoing crime problem in the District?
Posted by: DC Chief of Police at August 18, 2025 02:51 PM (wVcYX)

Isn't the DC Police Chef a lesbo?

Posted by: BurtTC at August 18, 2025 02:52 PM (dGCAG)

319 311 There are all manner of You Tube deep dives on their coming population collapse.

Most of us 29ers won't be around to see it happen, but it sure do appear to be a certainty.
Posted by: browndog gnawing on bones at August 18, 2025 02:52 PM (TTAGa)

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If China's population numbers are accurate, they'll have only about 250,000,000 in 50 years or so.

And their numbers aren't accurate.

It'll probably be closer to 150,000,000.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 18, 2025 02:52 PM (GBKbO)

320 The generation gap.

https://is.gd/yvyHPr

I'm expecting The Paolo to weigh in here.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 18, 2025 02:52 PM (Riz8t)

321 I'd like to have a three-way with Jen Aniston and Scarlett Johansson, but that is as likely to succeed as Putin Zelensky and Trump.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at August 18, 2025 02:53 PM (MZ+PY)

322 It will always be Peking, Tokio, Burma, Siam, Formosa, etc for me.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 18, 2025 02:53 PM (Ft/w+)

323 Still, I'll probably end up voting for some guy who's already dropped out of the primary like I do half the time.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 18, 2025 02:50 PM (GBKbO)

---------------

Ron Paul 2028!

/The wifey still has a Ron Paul bumper sticker on her car

Posted by: ShainS -- Donald the Lionhearted 2028! at August 18, 2025 02:53 PM (XeqRV)

324 5 I guess as a Hispanic guy he could add something to a ticket, but conservatives don't care about race, and the country as a whole is tired of tokenism.

Rubio is Cuban, which no one other than Cubans gives a shit about. Other hispanics don't see Cubans as one of them. A Cuban can maybe have sway in FL, which we don't need.

Posted by: Bottle of Water at August 18, 2025 02:53 PM (guCHD)

325 PDT now speaking. Like it's the meeting of the five families.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 18, 2025 02:53 PM (gm9Sb)

326 And JD Vance once thought Trump was like Hitler.
So I am open to Vance, Rubio or DeSantis for the next POTUS.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 18, 2025 02:49 PM (NpAcC)

That is more a nod to Trump's ability to persuade and more against Vance's judge of character and rush to judgment.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 18, 2025 02:53 PM (i24o9)

327 >>There will still be a field of candidates.
Which is where you will get hints of the others actual motivation.

>>There's a reason I use 3.0 as Rubio's current assignation. We have seen the previous Models, and we have rejected them.

I don't doubt there will be a few who give it a try but Trump's successor is going to inherit MAGA. That means Trump's blessing and his organization and most of his supporters.

Unless Vance unexpectedly steps on his crank over the next 3 years I don't see Trump supporting anyone but the guy who he chose to be his VP and his loyal to the cause.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 18, 2025 02:53 PM (viF8m)

328 Pequeno

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at August 18, 2025 02:54 PM (1GTvn)

329
It will always be Peking, Tokio, Burma, Siam, Formosa, etc for me.
Posted by: Common Tater at August 18, 2025 02:53 PM (Ft/w+)

__________

Myanmar Shave sounds stupid.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 18, 2025 02:54 PM (bwb3L)

330

Now Afghanistan, on the other hand... (4.66)
==
Now do infant mortality, life expectancy....

Posted by: Apples are not oranges at August 18, 2025 02:54 PM (UCRIj)

331 Why didn't you come to me like a man and tell me there was an ongoing crime problem in the District?
Posted by: DC Chief of Police

And what a chain of command is?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at August 18, 2025 02:54 PM (L/fGl)

332 . The only way Macron could get closer to grab Trump by his dick.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram

Is that an option?

Posted by: The Other Europeans at August 18, 2025 02:55 PM (LwW3i)

333 ... the spirit in question being five shots of rum.
Posted by: gKWVE at August 18, 2025 02:46 PM (gKWVE)

An AG that doesn't know the difference between "detained" and "arrested"? That's some quality lawyering.

"Call Graiiiggg, call Graiiiggg!!"

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at August 18, 2025 02:55 PM (/HDaX)

334 282 This is on point.

https://is.gd/qLO0O0
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at August 18, 2025 02:45 PM (L/fGl)

OK that made me really laugh out loud ...

I'm saving that one!

Posted by: browndog sporting a red rocket at August 18, 2025 02:55 PM (TTAGa)

335
Comments 69 and 122 started this.

It's not a strawman.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 18, 2025 02:40 PM (GBKbO)

JD is not ready although he is leading bigly in the polls.
JD is more of a local yokel type military base kid I think Marco lived it to the extend of his family fleeing Communism. Rubio may have been fooled in his early career. Now the masks have been dropped and the left is laying their cards Rubios roots and that are the reason he ran for office may have resurfaced. I will say Rubio HAS NOT spoken one sentance or word not aligned with the America first aganda.. It is early and I will say Trump himself mentioned Rubio until the pools supporting JD surfaced.

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at August 18, 2025 02:55 PM (VPPG8)

336 Remember the days when democrats/leftists pretended to be for peace not war?

"I'd like to build the world a home, and furnish it with love... grow apple trees and honey bees and snow-white turtle doves."

Posted by: Ordinary American at August 18, 2025 02:55 PM (UseAb)

337 The EU (and the UK) want this to continue until Putin is assassinated.

I have been informed in these very comments that Putin is the only assassin in Russia.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 18, 2025 02:56 PM (ExV1e)

338 And JD Vance once thought Trump was like Hitler.
So I am open to Vance, Rubio or DeSantis for the next POTUS.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 18, 2025 02:49 PM (NpAcC)
---
Exactly.

But I still genuinely like Vance as a communicator.

And I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't a little self-promotion behind his switch, but I also think there's something genuine about it as well. Realizing that it *was* the way forward.

It's like, hey why not use the battering ram that is actually breaching the keep rather than trying to find another way in.

Posted by: Axeman at August 18, 2025 02:56 PM (krQz2)

339 Meloni is smiling like Trump if grabbing her pussy under the table

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at August 18, 2025 02:57 PM (VPPG8)

340
Remember the days when democrats/leftists pretended to be for peace not war?

_________

"War Is Bad For Children And Other Living Things"

But that's when we were going up against the Godless Bolsheviks.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 18, 2025 02:57 PM (bwb3L)

341 Oh, but Putin is a bad guy... So is Xi. So is pretty much everyone in SA, or Africa, or Asia. Unless he's fucking with us, which he wasn't until we fucked with him, who cares.

It seems that Xi is trying to spin up the Chinese people to hate Japan. Now, Japan certainly earned a lot of hate in WWII, but why now? One suspects that this is intended to distract the Chinese from the ongoing failure of the CCP to fix the economy and all the other myriad problems they face.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7B96llMqzw

Posted by: Archimedes at August 18, 2025 02:57 PM (Riz8t)

342 I see Bowser has returned from her Martha's Vineyard vacation. I think DC is less safe with her any way around DC

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 18, 2025 02:57 PM (O3XOV)

343 Why didn't you come to me like a man and tell me there was an ongoing crime problem in the District?
Posted by: DC Chief of Police at August 18, 2025 02:51 PM (wVcYX)

Isn't the DC Police Chef a lesbo?
Posted by: BurtTC at August 18, 2025 02:52 PM (dGCAG)

I have the biggest dick in Chicago. My dick is bigger than yours and the Italians.

Posted by: Groot, Former Chicago Mayor at August 18, 2025 02:57 PM (wVcYX)

344 Tater is excited!

Brian Stelter@brianstelter
MSNBC — excuse me, MS NOW! — has been on a hiring spree of late, out of necessity, scooping up dozens of journalists for a new newsroom that will compete with NBC News, along with countless other outlets. (And I hear there are even more new hires that have yet to be announced.)

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at August 18, 2025 02:58 PM (L/fGl)

345 It will always be Peking, Tokio, Burma, Siam, Formosa, etc for me.
Posted by: Common Tater
----------

Ceylon

I still have some Ceylon postage stamps in my boyhood stamp collection.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 18, 2025 02:59 PM (XeU6L)

346
Y'all been busy while I was waiting on TSA's DEI hire Shanequa, with the culturally appropriated straightened blood hair. Useless twunt was flagging everyone's stuff for additional scrutiny.

Kyle the ambiguously straight, needs to eat a Sammich soiboi, wasn't cleaning the wipe n sniff testing machine between samples and the poor thing damned near shit himself when it flagged my work laptop as an explosive. Much hilarity (mine) was had at the monkeys scampering and flinging poo at everyone at that point.

If today is any indication, I'm gonna have a great fucking week.

Posted by: BifBewalski at August 18, 2025 02:17 PM (FYZGs)

I had a heavy travel job from 1997-2003; like 35-45 weeks a year. TSA hadn't really hit full swing by the time i got laid off in October of 2003.
The few times i've flown for 'pleasure' since then, I am astonished at how awful it is to travel now. I miss that job from time to time (money and opportunities it afforded me to visit a girl i was seeing in Los Angeles at the time)
But you seriously couldn't get me to take a job like that now unless you tied me up and threw me into a van first.

Posted by: Nelly at August 18, 2025 02:59 PM (cHLus)

347 I could not possibly care less what a commie like Martha Ratsass thinks.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at August 18, 2025 02:59 PM (wtvvX)

348 Posted by: Captain Fantastic at August 18, 2025 02:57 PM (VPPG

Seriously though, I doubt any woman political
Head of state wants Trump to grab her pu**** under the table. Maybe she just respects and appreciates Trump? Ya think?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 18, 2025 03:00 PM (2GCMq)

349 I could care less who Trump chooses as his successor. At this point in time, Trump is busy working on world peace, the domestic economy, and preserving and protecting the foundational principles that built America. If he has time to think about elections at all, he's thinking about making sure Democrats can't cheat on funding or balloting. Maybe he focuses a little on the midterms.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 18, 2025 03:00 PM (KZgz0)

350 MS NOW is fake and gay.

Posted by: Crusader at August 18, 2025 03:00 PM (TN0g+)

351 Isn't the DC Police Chef a lesbo?
Posted by: BurtTC

I was reading she has season tickets to WNBA's Washington DC Mystics.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at August 18, 2025 03:01 PM (9vYpt)

352 >>>I'd like to have a three-way with Jen Aniston and Scarlett Johansson, but that is as likely to succeed as Putin Zelensky and Trump.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder

>I don't have a dirty dog in this fight, but I like the way you think.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at August 18, 2025 03:01 PM (/vPt3)

353 344 For those that do not know, MS NOW! is the Joseph Biden High School 50 watt AM station run 45 minutes a day by Mr. Orlosky's science class.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 18, 2025 03:01 PM (gm9Sb)

354 The Blade had a number of "trilaterals," you know. Fun!

Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 18, 2025 03:02 PM (iFTx/)

355 I'd like to have a three-way with Jen Aniston and Scarlett Johansson

So you're the guy who subscribes to Dirty Grannies?

Posted by: Archimedes at August 18, 2025 03:02 PM (Riz8t)

356 So how long should you wait for X to actually look at your appeal and reinstate you?
Or do you just say fuck it and withdraw your banned comment so you can get back to your idiot cafe cute animal vids?

Posted by: From about That Time at August 18, 2025 03:02 PM (n4GiU)

357 It's like, hey why not use the battering ram that is actually breaching the keep rather than trying to find another way in.

Posted by: Axeman at August 18, 2025 02:56 PM (krQz2)

Not once did I ever say that Trump was idiotic or Hitleresque - a bit of a clown and a braggart, sure - so my judgment is more trustworthy than Vance.

But I am not going to vote for myself as POTUS, either, until such time as I do something more trustworthy and exemplary of my leadership skills than pantsless typing (poorly) on the smartmilblog.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 18, 2025 03:02 PM (i24o9)

358 350 MS NOW is fake and gay.

Posted by: Crusader at August 18, 2025 03:00 PM (TN0g+)

Truth in advertising!!!

Posted by: Tex Lovera at August 18, 2025 03:02 PM (wtvvX)

359 Isn't the DC Police Chef a lesbo?
Posted by: BurtTC

I was reading she has season tickets to WNBA's Washington DC Mystics.
===
It was the free dong giveaway nights that sealed that deal.

Posted by: Chief Lezbo at August 18, 2025 03:02 PM (UCRIj)

360 MS NOW is fake and gay.

Posted by: Crusader at August 18, 2025 03:00 PM (TN0g+)

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Multiple Sclerosis NOW is not a good look.

Posted by: ShainS -- Donald the Lionhearted 2028! at August 18, 2025 03:02 PM (YJHFz)

361 Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 18, 2025 03:02 PM (iFTx/)

Are we supposed to care?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 18, 2025 03:02 PM (2GCMq)

362 This is an actual quote from Trump on why Romney lost:

"“He had a crazy policy of self deportation which was maniacal,” Trump told the conservative website NewsMax. “It sounded as bad as it was, and he lost all of the Latino vote. He lost the Asian vote. He lost everybody who is inspired to come into this country.”"

Donald Trump on Monday said Mitt Romney’s policy of “self-deportation,” alienated Asian and Hispanic voters and helped cost him the election.
====

I think nearly every Republican has moved to the Right on immigration, Rubio and Trump included.

This was unfortunately the dominant theory at the time.

Posted by: Leupold at August 18, 2025 03:03 PM (4pwAx)

363 has been on a hiring spree of late, out of necessity, scooping up dozens of journalists for a new newsroom

Translation: they are hiring the fired rejects of dying news organizations like Tater.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 18, 2025 03:03 PM (dfIr7)

364 So how long should you wait for X to actually look at your appeal and reinstate you?
Or do you just say fuck it and withdraw your banned comment so you can get back to your idiot cafe cute animal vids?

Posted by: From about That Time at August 18, 2025 03:02 PM (n4GiU)

On principle? Never. (Going on about 8 months now?) You can just logout of X and watch the cafe vids without an account.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 18, 2025 03:03 PM (i24o9)

365 So you're the guy who subscribes to Dirty Grannies?
Posted by: Archimedes at August 18, 2025 03:02 PM (Riz8t)

At my age, it would be right in my wheelhouse.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at August 18, 2025 03:04 PM (MZ+PY)

366 Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 18, 2025 03:00 PM (KZgz0

I agree with you

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 18, 2025 03:04 PM (2GCMq)

367 Are we all excited for the newly rebranded MS NOW?

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at August 18, 2025 03:04 PM (Skc+N)

368 But I still genuinely like Vance as a communicator.
Posted by: Axeman at August 18, 2025 02:56 PM (krQz2)

If he can just drop his habit of saying "Look..." before every other sentence.

Posted by: Ordinary American at August 18, 2025 03:04 PM (UseAb)

369 This was unfortunately the dominant theory at the time.

Along with belt-borne onions.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 18, 2025 03:05 PM (Riz8t)

370 I wonder if anyone here types in their panties ... other than Sid?

Posted by: ShainS -- Donald the Lionhearted 2028! at August 18, 2025 03:05 PM (YJHFz)

371 Tater is excited!

Brian Stelter@brianstelter
MSNBC — excuse me, MS NOW! — has been on a hiring spree of late, out of necessity, scooping up dozens of journalists for a new newsroom that will compete with NBC News, along with countless other outlets. (And I hear there are even more new hires that have yet to be announced.)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at August 18, 2025 02:58 PM (L/fGl)
__________

I guess there's always someone to take in the lepers thrown out of the colony

Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 18, 2025 03:05 PM (iFTx/)

372 300 300
Posted by: m at August 18, 2025 02:49 PM (aURVT)

THIS

IS

SPARTA!

Posted by: Gerard Butler at August 18, 2025 03:05 PM (N1tpc)

373 Are we all excited for the newly rebranded MS NOW?
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at August 18, 2025 03:04 PM (Skc+N)

Who will replace Burt Reynolds as the featured centerfold?

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 18, 2025 03:06 PM (wVcYX)

374 I have the biggest dick in Chicago.

Posted by: Groot, Former Chicago Mayor at August 18, 2025 02:57 PM (wVcYX)

You *are* the biggest dick in chicago.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 18, 2025 03:06 PM (snZF9)

375 MS-NOW.... won't be around for long.

Get used to MS-WAS

W e
A re
S tupid

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 18, 2025 03:06 PM (Q4IgG)

376 Isn't the DC Police Chef a lesbo?
Posted by: BurtTC at August 18, 2025 02:52 PM (dGCAG)

I have the biggest dick in Chicago. My dick is bigger than yours and the Italians.
Posted by: Groot, Former Chicago Mayor at August 18, 2025 02:57 PM (wVcYX)

You could be right. About me, I can't speak for the Dagos.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 18, 2025 03:07 PM (dGCAG)

377 Wonder if Meloni was teased about her name in school. I had a Lori Mellon in my class.

Posted by: And They Were at August 18, 2025 03:07 PM (G5+As)

378 370 I wonder if anyone here types in their panties ... other than Sid?
___

*raises hand*

Posted by: David French at August 18, 2025 03:07 PM (Dv3i1)

379 Tater is excited!

Brian Stelter@brianstelter
MSNBC — excuse me, MS NOW! — has been on a hiring spree of late, out of necessity, scooping up dozens of journalists for a new newsroom that will compete with NBC News, along with countless other outlets. (And I hear there are even more new hires that have yet to be announced.)

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at August 18, 2025 02:58 PM (L/fGl)

MS NOW, a redheaded step child so retarded that neither Microsoft nor NBC wants to be associated with.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 18, 2025 03:07 PM (i24o9)

380 Remember the days when democrats/leftists pretended to be for peace not war?
---
Remember when then used to put up a better facade about being pro-crime?

Posted by: Axeman at August 18, 2025 03:08 PM (krQz2)

381 Thank GOD for the words 'Trilateral summit' in that headline...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at August 18, 2025 03:08 PM (xcxpd)

382 I guess there's always someone to take in the lepers thrown out of the colony

Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 18, 2025 03:05 PM (iFTx/)

Even Bernie Sanders found a home in Congress when he was kicked out of the commune.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 18, 2025 03:08 PM (i24o9)

383 296 It's my guess that Vance will head the ticket, and veep will be offered to DeSantis. Whether he'll take it is a different question.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 18, 2025 02:49 PM (Riz8t)

I don't see DeSantis or Rubio on the ticket, those Florida electoral votes are way too safe. Look for him to pull somebody from a purple state.

Posted by: tankdemon at August 18, 2025 03:08 PM (uHCmv)

384 And JD Vance once thought Trump was like Hitler.
So I am open to Vance, Rubio or DeSantis for the next POTUS.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 18, 2025 02:49 PM (NpAcC)

It's one thing to be wrong in your appraisal of a person.

It's another to betray the principles of the people who elected you.

Again, not saying Rubio hasn't learned, but there's a big difference in what they were wrong about.

Posted by: Gerard Butler at August 18, 2025 03:08 PM (N1tpc)

385 Wonder if Meloni was teased about her name in school. I had a Lori Mellon in my class.
_________________________

There was a Marcy Mohn (Moan) in the class ahead of mine

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at August 18, 2025 03:08 PM (Skc+N)

386 I bet Giorgia Meloni gets a premier discount on her Gucci bags.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at August 18, 2025 03:09 PM (9vYpt)

387 >>>This was unfortunately the dominant theory at the time.

Posted by: Leupold

>Wasn't it General Colon Bowel who had a similar theory about war reparations when he shat out the "you break it, you bought" philosophy in the Middle East?

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at August 18, 2025 03:09 PM (/vPt3)

388 I wonder if anyone here types in their panties ... other than Sid?
Posted by: ShainS -- Donald the Lionhearted 2028! at August 18, 2025 03:05 PM (YJHFz)

I believe mine are referred to as "briefs".

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at August 18, 2025 03:09 PM (/HDaX)

389 MS NOW, a redheaded step child so retarded that neither Microsoft nor NBC wants to be associated with.
===
The potential defamation liability is untenable. Those idiots are unmanageable.

Posted by: Microsoft NBC Corp lawyers at August 18, 2025 03:09 PM (UCRIj)

390 Blonde Italian girls from up north.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 18, 2025 03:09 PM (gm9Sb)

391 It's one thing to be wrong in your appraisal of a person.

It's another to betray the principles of the people who elected you.

Again, not saying Rubio hasn't learned, but there's a big difference in what they were wrong about.
Posted by: Obvious Sock at August 18, 2025 03:08 PM (N1tpc)

(Rubio was also very wrong about Trump.)

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 18, 2025 03:09 PM (N1tpc)

392 Are we all excited for the newly rebranded MS NOW?

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at August 18, 2025 03:04 PM (Skc+N)
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To tank utterly?

Yes. Yes, very.

Posted by: Axeman at August 18, 2025 03:09 PM (krQz2)

393 383 I don't see DeSantis or Rubio on the ticket, those Florida electoral votes are way too safe. Look for him to pull somebody from a purple state.
Posted by: tankdemon at August 18, 2025 03:08 PM (uHCmv)

=========

VPs do not have favorite son effects in their states.

They simply don't.

If they did, presidential nominees would, you know, choose VPs from swing states, at the very least.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 18, 2025 03:09 PM (GBKbO)

394 My friends call me Ms. Now, but you can me Karen.

Posted by: Karen Now at August 18, 2025 03:10 PM (qUkBO)

395 390 Blonde Italian girls from up north.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 18, 2025 03:09 PM (gm9Sb)

Go on...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at August 18, 2025 03:10 PM (xcxpd)

396 In principle? Never. (Going on about 8 months now?) You can just logout of X and watch the cafe vids without an account.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 18, 2025 03:03 PM (i24o9)

Log out, you say. Interesting concept. I will look into that straightaway.

Posted by: From about That Time at August 18, 2025 03:10 PM (n4GiU)

397 Isn't the DC Police Chef a lesbo?
Posted by: BurtTC

I was reading she has season tickets to WNBA's Washington DC Mystics.
===
It was the free dong giveaway nights that sealed that deal.
Posted by: Chief Lezbo at August 18, 2025 03:02 PM (UCRIj)

Shops at Flannels-R-Us.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 18, 2025 03:10 PM (dGCAG)

398 Party alert! I repeat Party Alert!
We have a TURD IN THE PUNCH BOWL

NAZI BASTARD FREDO MERTZ German President needs cease fire first before the deal is done..

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at August 18, 2025 03:11 PM (VPPG8)

399 NAZI BASTARD FREDO MERTZ German President needs cease fire first before the deal is done..
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at August 18, 2025 03:11 PM (VPPG

Him and what army?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 18, 2025 03:12 PM (VoAdT)

400
We can't wait until a major broadcasting corporation cuts us loose because we became a huge embarrassment!

Watch our smoke!

Posted by: MS NOW at August 18, 2025 03:12 PM (krQz2)

401 The flag in front of MS NOW looks like a P.
Therefore (in Sean Connery voice) PMS NOW

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 18, 2025 03:12 PM (O3XOV)

402 I have a visceral hate-disgust reaction to "european leaders."
Like a gut level horror.

Posted by: dagny at August 18, 2025 03:12 PM (cnmSH)

403 I truly believe after watching Raddatz cry on election night that she had been tabbed in some kind of roll in Hillary's administration and is still extremely bitter.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at August 18, 2025 03:13 PM (FxH7T)

404 I bet we get a Vance/Rubio ticket. It would be very strong, I wouldn't want to be the Democrats running against it.

Posted by: Leupold at August 18, 2025 03:13 PM (4pwAx)

405 NAZI BASTARD FREDO MERTZ German President needs cease fire first before the deal is done..
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at August 18, 2025 03:11 PM (VPPG

And I need Morgan Fairchild to come tuck me in at night.

Wonder which one is more likely to happen.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 18, 2025 03:13 PM (dGCAG)

406 Obviously the vaunted Ukrainian Constitution is pretty flexible in its terms, huh?

Must of had help from Dems writing it. They love them some "living documents."

Posted by: Diogenes at August 18, 2025 03:14 PM (2WIwB)

407 393 383 I don't see DeSantis or Rubio on the ticket, those Florida electoral votes are way too safe. Look for him to pull somebody from a purple state.
Posted by: tankdemon at August 18, 2025 03:08 PM (uHCmv)

=========

VPs do not have favorite son effects in their states.

They simply don't.

If they did, presidential nominees would, you know, choose VPs from swing states, at the very least.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 18, 2025 03:09 PM (GBKbO)

That can apply to even Presidential candidates. I still laugh about Gore losing Tennessee!!!

Posted by: Tex Lovera at August 18, 2025 03:14 PM (wtvvX)

408 ha ha Trump speaking to the EU Preezys seated west to east..
From UK to EN.

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at August 18, 2025 03:14 PM (VPPG8)

409 BASTARD FREDO MERTZ German President needs cease fire first before the deal is done..
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at August 18, 2025 03:11 PM (VPPG

Him and what army?
Posted by: Warai-otoko

===

That's the reality no one wants to say out loud.

Ukraine lost this war. No hardliner diplomacy is going to change that.

Posted by: Leupold at August 18, 2025 03:14 PM (4pwAx)

410
I believe mine are referred to as "briefs".
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent,
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'Drawers'. I'm old fashioned.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 18, 2025 03:15 PM (XeU6L)

411 And I need Morgan Fairchild to come tuck me in at night.

Wonder which one is more likely to happen.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 18, 2025 03:13 PM (dGCAG)

So you're saying there's a chance....

Posted by: Lloyd Christmas at August 18, 2025 03:15 PM (N1tpc)

412 We can't wait until a major broadcasting corporation cuts us loose because we became a huge embarrassment!

Watch our smoke!
Posted by: MS NOW at August 18, 2025 03:12 PM (krQz2)

I look forward to not subscribing to your podcast.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 18, 2025 03:15 PM (dGCAG)

413 403 I truly believe after watching Raddatz cry on election night that she had been tabbed in some kind of roll in Hillary's administration and is still extremely bitter.
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at August 18, 2025 03:13 PM (FxH7T)

She's plain vile.

Posted by: Ordinary American at August 18, 2025 03:15 PM (UseAb)

414 NOOD Drunken AG plus extras

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at August 18, 2025 03:15 PM (/HDaX)

415 truly believe after watching Raddatz cry on election night that she had been tabbed in some kind of roll in Hillary's administration and is still extremely bitter.
==
Is she married? Likely her significant other is eyeballs deep in something. You can't swing a dead cat....

Posted by: Microsoft NBC Corp lawyers at August 18, 2025 03:16 PM (UCRIj)

416 401, LOL

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 18, 2025 03:16 PM (ppG5b)

417 The MS stands for Mr. Stelter!

Posted by: Tater at August 18, 2025 03:16 PM (7CamO)

418 Blonde Italian girls from up north.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 18, 2025 03:09 PM (gm9Sb)

Yup, got some in my family, mom's side. Pretty girls.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 18, 2025 03:16 PM (snZF9)

419 That's the reality no one wants to say out loud.

Ukraine lost this war. No hardliner diplomacy is going to change that.
Posted by: Leupold at August 18, 2025 03:14 PM (4pwAx)

Yeah. It's not a TOTAL defeat (because of all the money the global elites stole from their populace and pumped into the war*) but they have lost.

*Minus significant grifting, of course

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 18, 2025 03:17 PM (N1tpc)

420 Trump notes that Zelenskyy canceled elections during the war which gives Trump an idea for "three and a half years from now."
---

I think this is Trump sending the meddling propagandists in the "media" off after a laser pointer to keep the delicate peace negotiations secret or at least out of the media hype. Now they can scream about Trump Hitler and going to cancel elections in 2028!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at August 18, 2025 03:17 PM (17s+e)

421 Gawd I hate the media.
They truly suck.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 18, 2025 03:17 PM (2WIwB)

422 407 That can apply to even Presidential candidates. I still laugh about Gore losing Tennessee!!!
Posted by: Tex Lovera at August 18, 2025 03:14 PM (wtvvX)

=======

2000's Al Gore and TN feels like political reality simply shifting beneath his feet.

I do think there is a favorite son effect for POTUS candidates, but it's not great. Ultimately, overall partisan feelings drive most of that. The only place where it seems to be different is in governor's races, but that's obviously not about favorite son effects and more about cross-partisan voting.

Hell, Romney had 3 home states in 2012, and he lost 2 of them.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 18, 2025 03:17 PM (GBKbO)

423 believe mine are referred to as "briefs".
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent,
-------
'Drawers'. I'm old fashioned.
==
Commando, but the sheets dust gets into muh nether hairs and won't come out. Orange man indeed....

Posted by: Moron at August 18, 2025 03:18 PM (UCRIj)

424 Martha got her start in radio news and was there reporting in Lakehurst on that fateful day.

Posted by: The Huge Manatee. at August 18, 2025 03:18 PM (G5+As)

425 I think the favorite son effect is there, it's just not usually worth putting someone on the ticket that you otherwise wouldn't to get like 1% more of the vote in that specific state.

If say Josh Shapiro had been on kamala's ticket instead of Walz, I bet she would have done better in PA. But is that because he's a relatively popular governor there or simply the superior candidate?

Posted by: Leupold at August 18, 2025 03:18 PM (4pwAx)

426
Martha Raddatz has a face for Radio.

Posted by: Frank Barone at August 18, 2025 03:19 PM (IifOV)

427 402, kinda like "The Dunwich Horror"

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 18, 2025 03:19 PM (ppG5b)

428 Rubio will run for Governor of Florida.

Posted by: toby928 at August 18, 2025 03:19 PM (jc0TO)

429 425 I think the favorite son effect is there, it's just not usually worth putting someone on the ticket that you otherwise wouldn't to get like 1% more of the vote in that specific state.

If say Josh Shapiro had been on kamala's ticket instead of Walz, I bet she would have done better in PA. But is that because he's a relatively popular governor there or simply the superior candidate?

Posted by: Leupold at August 18, 2025 03:18 PM (4pwAx)

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It literally doesn't exist.

I did the analysis a while back. It's not there.

Hell, Harris won MN by fewer points than Biden did, and Walz is their sitting governor.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 18, 2025 03:20 PM (GBKbO)

430 >>>That can apply to even Presidential candidates. I still laugh about Gore losing Tennessee!!!

Posted by: Tex Lovera

>Willard Romney had one deep sigh of relief before he lost the election for president.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at August 18, 2025 03:20 PM (/vPt3)

431 It literally doesn't exist.

I did the analysis a while back. It's not there.

Hell, Harris won MN by fewer points than Biden did, and Walz is their sitting governor.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

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No offense, but there's no formula that "proves" this.

If you want to use the Gore example, Al Gore did WAY better than John Kerry did in TN in back to back elections.

2000 Bush 51/Gore 47
2004 Bush 56/ Kerry 42

Posted by: Leupold at August 18, 2025 03:27 PM (4pwAx)

432 431 No offense, but there's no formula that "proves" this.

If you want to use the Gore example, Al Gore did WAY better than John Kerry did in TN in back to back elections.

2000 Bush 51/Gore 47
2004 Bush 56/ Kerry 42
Posted by: Leupold at August 18, 2025 03:27 PM (4pwAx)

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You can do statistical analysis of states from succeeding elections that include the favorite son as VP and those that don't. You can use controls of other states with similar partisan makeup.

Yes, the analysis is actually super simple, and it shows no effect at all.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 18, 2025 03:29 PM (GBKbO)

433 Log out, you say. Interesting concept. I will look into that straightaway.

Posted by: From about That Time at August 18, 2025 03:10 PM (n4GiU)

I don't want to be part of a system where you can't say Joe Biden deserves a traitor's punishment, hanging.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 18, 2025 03:29 PM (i24o9)

434 You can do statistical analysis of states from succeeding elections that include the favorite son as VP and those that don't. You can use controls of other states with similar partisan makeup.

Yes, the analysis is actually super simple, and it shows no effect at all.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

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So explain Gore doing way better in TN (his home state) than Kerry against the same candidate?

It's fine if you disagree, but it's silly to come at this that you have some analysis that "proves" it's not there.

It's as simple as why do incumbents tend to get reelected? There's a certain familiarity that nets votes, it could be as simple as constituent services helping someone resolve a problem.

It's why many politicians have this outreach, it helps garner votes

Posted by: Leupold at August 18, 2025 03:32 PM (4pwAx)

435 432 So explain Gore doing way better in TN (his home state) than Kerry against the same candidate?

It's fine if you disagree, but it's silly to come at this that you have some analysis that "proves" it's not there.

It's as simple as why do incumbents tend to get reelected? There's a certain familiarity that nets votes, it could be as simple as constituent services helping someone resolve a problem.

It's why many politicians have this outreach, it helps garner votes
Posted by: Leupold at August 18, 2025 03:32 PM (4pwAx)

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Have you missed every mention of VP in what I've said?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 18, 2025 03:34 PM (GBKbO)

436 LBJ "carried" Texas for JFK.

Posted by: toby928 at August 18, 2025 03:35 PM (jc0TO)

437 436

That's another good example, it did help in that situation.

Posted by: Leupold at August 18, 2025 03:50 PM (4pwAx)

438 "It seems that Xi is trying to spin up the Chinese people to hate Japan. Now, Japan certainly earned a lot of hate in WWII, but why now?"

Now? Hatred of Japan is a more fundamental part of the Chinese character than Confucius and Mao combined.

Posted by: front toward enemy at August 18, 2025 04:01 PM (TIizU)

439 if everything i hear t that presser is true,they rolled trump....ukraine becomes an honorary nato member AND gets some manner of weatern troops on the ground.....

if any hostilities break out,it`s uncle sugar to the rescue......not exactly what our guy campaigned on....the ego and all the "nobel" talk?

trying to figure out what putin is thinking.....maybe he is is terrible shape?.....hard to believe he`s in worse shape than ukraine...he must be asking for large amounts of territory to give all this other stuff up...

Posted by: uncouth jay marks at August 18, 2025 04:26 PM (ruExs)

440 "Zelenskyy...freely ignores [the Ukrainian constitution] when it suits him..."

Examples that back up this assertion?

"Trump notes that Zelenskyy canceled elections during the war... Obviously the vaunted Ukrainian Constitution is pretty flexible in its terms, huh?"

Those elections were cancelled in rigid (which is to say, not flexible) accordance with the Ukrainian constitution. Article 83 of the Ukrainian constitution specifically states that new parliamentary elections are suspended during Martial Law.

All other elections are prohibited during Martial Law by Ukraine's Electoral Code.

Posted by: JTP at August 18, 2025 05:28 PM (8daDi)

441 The restraint Sec Rubio showed with both of these shrieking harpies is amazing.

I was thinking, like VP Vance, for him to simply say, "I don't really care, Margaret" to that nasty Brennan woman (is she related to the villan Brennan?).

Frankly, Margaret, you seem very tense and jittery. I think you need your sex chakras adjusted and some xanax. Please call the Sex Poodle Al Gore asap!

Regarding the dessicated Martha Raddidtz (sp?). Good grief, woman! Were you recently embalmed in the Arizona desert and they forgot to pump formaldehyde into you? You are caving in upon yourself!

Granted, I don't look great today, but I have never, ever looked as bad as Martha! I don't think either massive fillers or a face lift could fix that! For starters, it is a reflection of your frustrated TDS, and, for you, that is terminal.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at August 18, 2025 05:55 PM (6PCLE)

442 His country. As if.

Posted by: ccoffer at August 19, 2025 09:33 AM (WFa2V)

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