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Posted by: rhennigantx at August 16, 2025 07:29 AM (gbOdA) 2
En mi casa toman Bustelo!
Posted by: Ricardo Romantico at August 16, 2025 07:33 AM (G5+As) 3
Good morning horde
Got a note from my medical service my doctor I have seen since 1883-4 has passed away. Seen him probably a year or two ago.He was still practicing and had to be in his late 80s to 90s Posted by: Skip at August 16, 2025 07:34 AM (+qU29) Posted by: tankdemon at August 16, 2025 07:37 AM (xhKGy) 5
Prayers for all the Horde in need.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at August 16, 2025 07:37 AM (xu4nt) 6
Prayers for all those listed above, and especially for those held in the silence of our hearts. Trusting the Lord, he hears our pleas.
On a personal note, had my last chemo this past week. Short break before radiation starts. Everything looks good so far. I get fatigued very quickly so I have to try and build back strength. Can't thank the oncology nurses enough. They were amazing and really helped me get through treatments. Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 16, 2025 07:38 AM (7v6oI) 7
Ah, yes, the weekly prayer list. The Saturday morning thread is what really sets AoS apart from other blogs.
Even if every other thread eventually turns into a boob thread. Posted by: tankdemon at August 16, 2025 07:39 AM (xhKGy) 8
Morning peeps. It's the first time in several weeks, maybe a month or so, that I don't have yard work to do over the weekend.
Prayers answered. ![]() Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 16, 2025 07:44 AM (Q4IgG) 9
flying my drone
Posted by: TheCatAttackedMyFoot at August 16, 2025 07:44 AM (jrgJz) 10
6 "On a personal note, had my last chemo this past week."
Very cool! "Short break before radiation starts." Not quite so cool. Hopefully the cancer is already too stunned to know what's hitting it. Posted by: tankdemon at August 16, 2025 07:45 AM (xhKGy) 11
2 En mi casa toman Bustelo!
Posted by: Ricardo Romantico at August 16, 2025 07:33 AM (G5+As) I bet your Barcalounger is upholstered with Corinthian leather. Posted by: tankdemon at August 16, 2025 07:47 AM (xhKGy) 12
Thank you Mis. Hum, and Annie's Stew
That cat doesn't look like Snowflake, who happily comes into my room multiple times before 7am wondering when her food bowl will be filled. To her credit, she avoids waking me from my sleep cycles. Still, there's a VERY FAT CAT inside her trying to get out. But with her 2/3rds of cat food a day and tuna on Saturday, she's still hovering around 10 pounds. Everyone have a happy day. Posted by: Posted by: Stateless - VERY GRATEFUL, BLESSED, LOVED AND HAPPY! -- - New Life Creation - 18.2% at August 16, 2025 07:47 AM (jvJvP) 13
I remember those on the Prayer List every day in my intentions to Our Lady before saying my Rosary. Hoping it helps. Her Majesty is away on a show circuit with The Big Dummy until after Labor Day. Can you squeeze me in for the health of our dogs and no hurricanes? Thanks. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 16, 2025 07:48 AM (kkTda) 14
Good morning, folks. Mug o' lemon tea at hand. Brain is booting up, slowly.
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 16, 2025 07:49 AM (wVcYX) Posted by: Posted by: Stateless - VERY GRATEFUL, BLESSED, LOVED AND HAPPY! -- - New Life Creation - 18.2% at August 16, 2025 07:49 AM (jvJvP) 16
Good morning, fellow early birds and insomniacs. I very much identify with the cat above, although I am looking forward to hosting a friend for dinner tonight. Hopefully my ossobuco turns out well.
Posted by: PabloD at August 16, 2025 07:50 AM (F7Bkc) 17
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 16, 2025 07:38 AM (7v6oI)
Kick cancer's ass. Curb stomp it away, even. Posted by: Count de Monet at August 16, 2025 07:51 AM (wVcYX) 18
"...my doctor I have seen since 1883-84...."
I knew there were some old codgers around this blog, but damn. Posted by: PabloD at August 16, 2025 07:53 AM (F7Bkc) 19
"...my doctor I have seen since 1883-84...."
I knew there were some old codgers around this blog, but damn. I hope DOGE didn't delete you from the databases Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at August 16, 2025 07:54 AM (a4flb) 20
Today is the 48th anniversary of Elvis's death (or "death" if you think so). Actually, I think he died a long time before and his corpse was just hanging around singing. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 16, 2025 07:55 AM (kkTda) 21
My doctor told me that if I didn't get the clot shot ("vaccine") I would be dead in a year.
That was 4 years ago. I, too, expect to get a note from the practice informing me of his demise. Posted by: no one of any consequence at August 16, 2025 07:55 AM (ZmEVT) 22
Skip, that’s a good run. I’m sure he was ready to go
Posted by: Common Tater at August 16, 2025 07:56 AM (Tt+ej) 23
He died when Priscilla packed up and moved out of Las Vegas.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at August 16, 2025 07:56 AM (ZmEVT) 24
Today is the 48th anniversary of Elvis's death (or "death" if you think so). Actually, I think he died a long time before and his corpse was just hanging around singing.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 16, 2025 07:55 AM (kkTda) He stopped loving her, today . . . (48 years ago) Posted by: Count de Monet at August 16, 2025 07:57 AM (wVcYX) 25
Update from D about his wife Susan: Susan is back in the hospital. They really appreciate your prayers.
Posted by: Annie Stew at August 16, 2025 07:59 AM (jtcz6) 26
On this, the 48th anniversary of his death, I am asking Elvis to lead us in prayer:
https://youtu.be/9tg-dcj9w4k Posted by: tankdemon at August 16, 2025 08:00 AM (xhKGy) 27
I read Peter Guralnick's biography of Elvis. Lots of people think Colonel Tom Parker was an evil influence and ruined Elvis's career, but I think even without him Elvis would have ended up in pretty much the same place. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 16, 2025 08:01 AM (kkTda) 28
Elvis died on the shitter with his last kingly remains still hanging about. Too bad someone didn't save it as it would be worth a lotta money today.
Posted by: American Pickers at August 16, 2025 08:01 AM (R/m4+) 29
Good morning, everyone. So I have to stay home today on account of two guest dogs showing up. My wife has a show and is housesitting for friends. In other words, it's me and the dogs. Now I just have to make a booze run.
Posted by: NR Pax at August 16, 2025 08:04 AM (7xrfc) Posted by: muldoon at August 16, 2025 08:04 AM (I0N4X) 31
I lived in Memphis for several years. Never went to Graceland. Drove by it once or twice.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 16, 2025 08:04 AM (Q4IgG) 32
30 Elvis was the original Elvis impersonator...
... and quite possibly the best. Posted by: muldoon at August 16, 2025 08:04 AM (I0N4X) Elvis was a better singer than Freddy Mercury. Fight me! Posted by: tankdemon at August 16, 2025 08:05 AM (xhKGy) 33
- @7 tank demon
You left out f-bomb thread And I hate em kill em all thread But then, who are we kidding? Sooner or later, even this thread... Posted by: TeeJ at August 16, 2025 08:05 AM (RGbzo) 34
...and now, my weekly update! Latest scan confirms the cancer did not spread, so radiation therapy will likely start on the 28th. Other problems still not budging, but I'm thankful for the news I get that's good.
Prayers for all intentions known and unknown. God had your back, if you let Him. Posted by: Brother Tim sez at August 16, 2025 08:05 AM (dqrix) 35
Prayers up for the Horde, asked and unasked. Community Coffee, dark roast and chicory blended 50/50. Wakes me right up, and has a nice black pepper bite. Y'all play nice, Smash & I are out the door for a nice motorcycle ride. Posted by: BifBewalski - at August 16, 2025 08:05 AM (QcUc+) 36
The Great Sights of the World are for tourists. Locals are at best indifferent
Posted by: Accomack at August 16, 2025 08:06 AM (Y6Ecf) 37
Had to drag Pooky to the doctor yesterday to get him diagnosed with a bladder infection. He's on antibiotics for the next week, which will make him feel crummy but will hopefully lessen the frequency of his bathroom visits. He wasn't sleeping for the past month because he had to go to the bathroom at least once an hour. This is his third UTI in two years, so we've got a urology appointment in a few weeks. I'm hoping it's just bad hygiene, which is common for depression, and not something like cancer, which he's at a huge risk for due to his radiation exposure.
Posted by: pookysgirl, always taking care of everyone at August 16, 2025 08:06 AM (Wt5PA) 38
Posted by: Brother Tim sez at August 16, 2025 08:05 AM (dqrix)
You kick cancer's ass, too. In fact, all y'all taking cancer treatments do likewise. Posted by: Count de Monet at August 16, 2025 08:08 AM (wVcYX) 39
Come to think of it, Elvis and Jack Nicholson are two celebrities who sound like they are doing a bad impersonation of themselves. I'm sure there others.
Posted by: muldoon at August 16, 2025 08:08 AM (I0N4X) 40
Come to think of it, Elvis and Jack Nicholson are two celebrities who sound like they are doing a bad impersonation of themselves. I'm sure there others. Posted by: muldoon at August 16, 2025 08:08 AM (I0N4X) I've always said about Katherine Hepburn and Meryl Streep that they don't play a role, they play themselves playing a role. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 16, 2025 08:10 AM (kkTda) 41
I put ghee in my coffee.
I'm a gheezer. Posted by: Quarter Twenty at August 16, 2025 08:11 AM (XQo4F) Posted by: Bulg at August 16, 2025 08:11 AM (77rzZ) 43
The world is in tatters with all the division and troubles. Surprised it's not even worse, though, since we lost the world's leading authority in 2017.
Posted by: Professor Irwin Corey at August 16, 2025 08:12 AM (G5+As) 44
Henry Fonda acts the same way in every film.
Posted by: dantesed at August 16, 2025 08:12 AM (Oy/m2) 45
I thought this was a very nice article on Pope Leo from the National Catholic Register. He sounds like a nice man and spiritual guide:
https://tinyurl.com/2k57b2sw Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 16, 2025 08:12 AM (ktg/9) 46
Good Saturday morning, horde. Prayers said.
And then there is this: Teresa in Fort Worth 8/4 Update – The oncological surgeon said everything is looking great. After her next CT scan, they will be planning surgery to remove the tumors. The largest tumor is showing signs of calcification, which means that it is dying. This is amazing! God is good! Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at August 16, 2025 08:14 AM (h7ZuX) 47
I am grateful that I can Sean's hear and walk and talk. I am a car passenger and we just passed a swampy area with beautiful pink and white Mars mallow flowers. I am thankful for the Lord's creativity in nature!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 16, 2025 08:15 AM (ktg/9) Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 16, 2025 08:17 AM (kkTda) 49
Even if every other thread eventually turns into a boob thread.
Posted by: tankdemon at August 16, 2025 07:39 AM (xhKGy) Even the prayer revival gets there, sometimes. Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at August 16, 2025 08:19 AM (h7ZuX) Posted by: Don Black at August 16, 2025 08:21 AM (AOsQT) 51
He sounds like a nice man and spiritual guide
I'm taking a "Wait and see" approach even though I'm not a practicing Catholic any more. Posted by: NR Pax at August 16, 2025 08:22 AM (7xrfc) 52
At least now, a validly elected Pope is here. I am so happy the anti-pontificate of the heretic, apostate Bergoglio is over.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at August 16, 2025 08:22 AM (ZmEVT) 53
Fen, thanks for the article. I don't have an opinion on my spiritual leader as of yet. I just want him to follow the words of Jesus and grow our church. We need priests, priests that can somehow bring the word of God to our youth and keep them in the church past their confirmation. Of course that starts with their parents, then the parish priest. MT is vast and we have the Diocese of Helena that covers 1/2 of it and that's a lot for one Bishop and his staff to cover. Parish priests help the Bishop and ours are spread thin.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at August 16, 2025 08:25 AM (2NHgQ) 54
Looking forward to the professional lip reader translating what Trump said to Putin while he had a B-2 fly over his head. Posted by: Auspex at August 16, 2025 08:26 AM (Y8DZL) 55
Good morning! As a result of our continuing cold brew coffee concentrate studies, we rank Starbucks' varieties as follows:
Choc-hazelnut > Signature black > Vanilla madagascar They are all inferior to the top two concentrates tested to date: Dunkin Donuts > Cameron's Posted by: gp at August 16, 2025 08:26 AM (iBAge) 56
Don't let anyone tell you that a surgical repair of a bilateral inguinal hernia is a load of laughs. 2-4 weeks of this until you move around without pain. Though the doc said it could take as long as 10-12 weeks depending on how it heals. I could use some hoard prayers for a quick and full recovery. Thank you. Posted by: naturalfake at August 16, 2025 08:27 AM (iJfKG) Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at August 16, 2025 08:27 AM (PiwSw) 58
Jimmy Stewart is another actor who sounds like a self-parody.
Posted by: muldoon at August 16, 2025 08:28 AM (I0N4X) 59
The good thing about Leo is that he's not Francis, at least not yet.
not Francis, but still pretty much a globalist woke-leaning type whatever he's better than Bergoglio Posted by: Black Orchid at August 16, 2025 08:28 AM (Pv3Rg) 60
> Looking forward to the professional lip reader translating what Trump said to Putin while he had a B-2 fly over his head.
-------- "That's the old stuff. I can't show you the really new, spectacularly scary stuff we've got." Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 16, 2025 08:28 AM (Q4IgG) 61
44 Henry Fonda acts the same way in every film.
Posted by: dantesed John Wayne and Christopher Walken would like a word. Posted by: Auspex at August 16, 2025 08:30 AM (Y8DZL) 62
I am thankful for the Lord's creativity in nature!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 16, 2025 08:15 AM (ktg/9) Amen. Going through my health battles, I find myself taking in the beauty of His creation. Sunny days, rainy days - there is beauty to be found everywhere. Sad that it took cancer for me to really open my eyes. But I'm glad I now recognize and appreciate it all that much more. Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 16, 2025 08:30 AM (7v6oI) 63
MT is vast and we have the Diocese of Helena that covers 1/2 of it and that's a lot for one Bishop and his staff to cover.
Wow. Small world. I used to live in Great Falls and went to Holy Family when Monsignor Gluszek lived there. Posted by: NR Pax at August 16, 2025 08:31 AM (7xrfc) 64
How did they decide to start flipping back numbers on our Air force planes? You know, B-17, B-29, B-52. I’d have thought we would be up to B-87 or B-93 by now. Did the odometer roll over so to speak?
Posted by: Common Tater at August 16, 2025 08:33 AM (Tt+ej) 65
Elvis was a better singer than Freddy Mercury.
Fight me! Posted by: tankdemon at August 16, 2025 08:05 AM (xhKGy) I *will* fight you on this one. Freddie had a wider range, was a great pianist, and had a more unique personality that came through his music. Posted by: pookysgirl, music critic at August 16, 2025 08:34 AM (Wt5PA) 66
Henry Fonda acts the same way in every film.
-- Thank you! When I think of wooden, boring actors, I think of Henry Fonda. There's no passion in any of the roles I've ever seen him in. Posted by: Lady in Black at August 16, 2025 08:35 AM (qBdHI) 67
Pookysgirl, prayers for Pooky and for your family. You are in my thoughts often. I also have a spouse who suffers from chronic depression, so my prayers extend to you for strength and patience and insulation.
And also you, Brother Tim. I pray that you get the breaks you need to heal and find stability. Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at August 16, 2025 08:35 AM (h7ZuX) 68
Unsettled weather here, damp but no rain, supposed to go to low 90 again
Posted by: Skip at August 16, 2025 08:35 AM (+qU29) 69
Good morning! Prayers said for all those listed intentions, and thanks offered for the multitude of blessings.
https://tinyurl.com/3kee6zaj Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at August 16, 2025 08:36 AM (kOluj) 70
Will tankdemon and pookysgirl please report to the Octagon?
tankdemon and pookysgirl report to the Octagon. Thank you. Posted by: AoSHQ Public Announcement at August 16, 2025 08:36 AM (PiwSw) 71
Trump: "That's the old stuff. I can't show you the really new, spectacularly scary stuff we've got."
Putin: "Don't worry. We've seen it all." Posted by: gp at August 16, 2025 08:38 AM (iBAge) 72
How much would the Left would go suicidally insane if Trump/Putin announced that there was a cease-fire, the captured parts of Ukraine would be Russian, and that Putin would be stepping down to join the Trump Organization to build and maintain new Trump Casinos, golf courses and Resorts along the Black Sea.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at August 16, 2025 08:39 AM (a4flb) 73
47- phone blooper - Grateful that I I can hear and see and hear and walk and talk. And Sean had nothing to do with it!😉
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 16, 2025 08:40 AM (ktg/9) 74
Good morning and prayers up for all of the Horde.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at August 16, 2025 08:41 AM (0nHVk) 75
tankdemon and pookysgirl report to the Octagon.
Thank you. Posted by: AoSHQ Public Announcement at August 16, 2025 08:36 AM (PiwSw) *lays money on pookysgirl *declares that Elvis is overrated *runs away, serpentine Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at August 16, 2025 08:41 AM (h7ZuX) 76
68 Unsettled weather here, damp but no rain, supposed to go to low 90 again
Posted by: Skip at August 16, 2025 08:35 AM (+qU29) ---------- Birdbath condition? Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 16, 2025 08:41 AM (hY4dx) 77
Will tankdemon and pookysgirl please report to the Octagon?
tankdemon and pookysgirl report to the Octagon. Thank you. Posted by: AoSHQ Public Announcement at August 16, 2025 08:36 AM (PiwSw) *rummages through her shorts* Rats. I was hoping I had ones that had a name brand on them, like you see on UFC, but all I've got are plain Wal-Mart ones. Posted by: pookysgirl can't find fighting gloves either at August 16, 2025 08:42 AM (Wt5PA) 78
Morning, coffee mainliners,
I'm back from washing the car and detailing *me,* having some breakfast at last. Whassup? Did Trump achieve anything in Alaska? Henry Fonda and James Stewart were the sorts of actors who "underplay" -- they didn't telegraph every emotion. I prefer Jimmy over Henry and always have. They could often have played the same roles; I can see Henry doing Harvey and Jimmy playing Mr. Roberts or Tom Joad. Their teaming in The Cheyenne Social Club is a classic example of two greats playing off each other to good effect. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 16, 2025 08:42 AM (omVj0) 79
71 Trump: "That's the old stuff. I can't show you the really new, spectacularly scary stuff we've got."
Putin: "Don't worry. We've seen it all." Posted by: gp "But you guys used to make copies and call them better. Sad." Posted by: Auspex at August 16, 2025 08:42 AM (Y8DZL) 80
John Wayne and Christopher Walken would like a word. Posted by: Auspex at August 16, 2025 08:30 AM (Y8DZL) I think people expect John Wayne to be John Wayne in every film because John Wayne played a John Wayne role. Anything else would be unsettling. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 16, 2025 08:42 AM (kkTda) 81
Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit. As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be, world without end. Amen.
Oh my Jesus, forgive us our sins, save us from the fires of hell. Lead all souls to heaven, especially those most in need of Thy mercy. Amen. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 16, 2025 08:42 AM (ZOv7s) Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 16, 2025 08:43 AM (ktg/9) 83
Prayers up for all the Horde's intentions. Those asked and unasked.
Posted by: olddog in mo at August 16, 2025 08:43 AM (ld8WN) 84
I've always said about Katherine Hepburn and Meryl Streep that they don't play a role, they play themselves playing a role.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh ********* Good call on Hepburn. Streep, to me never had a distinct enough voice or style to be recognizable if ddone by an impersonator. Posted by: muldoon at August 16, 2025 08:44 AM (I0N4X) 85
And now we are on our way to a beautiful garden designed by a legal immigrant who came here in the 1940's.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 16, 2025 08:44 AM (ktg/9) 86
Thank you! When I think of wooden, boring actors, I think of Henry Fonda. There's no passion in any of the roles I've ever seen him in.
Posted by: Lady in Black at August 16, 2025 08:35 AM (qBdHI) --- He's very good in Mr. Roberts. Great contrast to Jack Lemmon and his clashes with James Cagney are epic. Dustin Hoffman only plays Dustin Hoffman. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 16, 2025 08:45 AM (ZOv7s) 87
I think people expect John Wayne to be John Wayne in every film because John Wayne played a John Wayne role. Anything else would be unsettling.
---------- Picture John Wayne as Inspector Clouseau or Gomez Addams. It wouldn't work. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 16, 2025 08:45 AM (hY4dx) 88
When I think of wooden, boring actors, I think of Henry Fonda. *Robert Redford has entered the chat* Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 16, 2025 08:46 AM (kkTda) 89
Jimmy Stewart is another actor who sounds like a self-parody.
Posted by: muldoon at August 16, 2025 08:28 AM (I0N4X) --- Only in his comedies. There is another, darker side to him that comes out, when he channels what it was like to fly 25 combat missions over Germany. You do not want Brig. Gen. Stewart pissed at you! Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 16, 2025 08:47 AM (ZOv7s) 90
Picture John Wayne as Inspector Clouseau or Gomez Addams. It wouldn't work.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 16, 2025 08:45 AM (hY4dx) --- How about Genghis Khan? Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 16, 2025 08:48 AM (ZOv7s) 91
Pookysgirl, prayers for Pooky and for your family. You are in my thoughts often. I also have a spouse who suffers from chronic depression, so my prayers extend to you for strength and patience and insulation.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at August 16, 2025 08:35 AM (h7ZuX) Thanks. I often remind myself that two steps forward and one step back is still moving forward. Posted by: pookysgirl, establishing a vector at August 16, 2025 08:48 AM (Wt5PA) 92
@57/Shadout Mapes:
Thanks for the link to the Powerline Week in Pictures. I always enjoy those, but it usually takes some other kind soul linking it to remind me I should go check those out. Also (and unrelated): I might be completely in agreement with the cat at the top of today's post. Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at August 16, 2025 08:48 AM (O7YUW) 93
How about Genghis Khan? Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 16, 2025 08:48 AM (ZOv7s) It didn't work. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 16, 2025 08:49 AM (kkTda) 94
Wrote a few times I think the Democrats Propaganda Ministry would love to go back to that Russian Collusion playbook
Posted by: Skip at August 16, 2025 08:49 AM (+qU29) 95
Henry Fonda acts the same way in every film.
Posted by: dantesed John Wayne and Christopher Walken would like a word. Posted by: Auspex at August 16, 2025 08:30 AM Excuse me, muthafuckahs?! I'm standing right here! Posted by: Samuel L. Jackson at August 16, 2025 08:50 AM (Wnv9h) 96
How did they decide to start flipping back numbers on our Air force planes? You know, B-17, B-29, B-52. I’d have thought we would be up to B-87 or B-93 by now. Did the odometer roll over so to speak?
Posted by: Common Tater at August 16, 2025 08:33 AM (Tt+ej) --- I think some of that space was used up in experimental projects that got a YB designation and were never adopted. Fighters got up to 119, and then settled back a bit. I think the idea was to avoid situations where you have everything M-1 and have to use nicknames, which was actually a British thing. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 16, 2025 08:51 AM (ZOv7s) 97
John Wayne plays a nebbishy office guy in Baby Face with Barbara Stanwyck. Does a decent job in that minor role. But that was before his cowboy days.
Posted by: Bulg at August 16, 2025 08:51 AM (77rzZ) 98
Good morning dear morons and thanks to annie and mh and you horde for praying
Imma pray that the starving children in Gaza are able to afford to pay for food aid provided by U.S. taxpayers, stolen by Hamas, and withheld by the UN. Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 16, 2025 08:51 AM (RIvkX) 99
I don't watch tons of movies and I may be a minority of one, but for me Paul Newman was an actor you could drop into a light or dramatic role and he'd do a great job. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 16, 2025 08:52 AM (kkTda) 100
Excuse me, muthafuckahs?! I'm standing right here!
Posted by: Samuel L. Jackson at August 16, 2025 08:50 AM (Wnv9h) --- When I think of a serene mystical warrior, a master of calmness and peace, I think of Samuel L. F*ckin' Jackson. I love the supercut (since pulled down I think) of them dubbing his "Pulp Fiction" dialogue around "what" with Anakin in the Jedi Council. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 16, 2025 08:53 AM (ZOv7s) 101
As for modern actors, I would have to state my appreciation for Ryan Reynolds for a few reasons:
1. An actual sense of humor. 2. I don't know what his politics are. 3. Comedic acting is very difficult to pull off and he does it well. Posted by: NR Pax at August 16, 2025 08:54 AM (7xrfc) 102
Prayers up for everyone, and some asked for my daughter who is a bit passed due and scheduled for hospital admit and inducement tomorrow. Lets get this kid delivered.
Posted by: From about That Time at August 16, 2025 08:54 AM (n4GiU) 103
Want an almost guaranteed smile this morning? I’ve been binge reading the bios of the Los Alamos longhairs - Fermi, Oppie, et al. Hans Bethe pic looks right out of central casting for a mad scientist. Brilliant theoretician. But under his Personal Life - they have the Los Alamos ID badge of his wife, Rose. I’d want to keep an eye on her . .
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Bethe Posted by: Common Tater at August 16, 2025 08:54 AM (Tt+ej) 104
I think Air Force bombers and fighters have retired numbers, like in baseball. 17, 24, 25, 38, 47, 51, and so on. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 16, 2025 08:55 AM (kkTda) 105
...hoard prayers ...
Posted by: naturalfake ********* Horde prayers are offered in the comments Hoard prayers must be those you keep to yourself. 😀 I don't even want to think about whored prayers. Posted by: muldoon at August 16, 2025 08:55 AM (I0N4X) 106
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'Looking forward to the professional lip reader translating what Trump said to Putin while he had a B-2 fly over his head.' "We did a courtesy fly over of Moscow earlier today. Did you see them?" Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 16, 2025 08:55 AM (3wi/L) 107
When I think of wooden, boring actors, I think of Henry Fonda.
*Robert Redford has entered the chat* Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 16, 2025 *** Few actors could top RR for comic exasperation. Remember the scene in Butch Cassidy when they arrive at last in Bolivia, and are standing in a chicken yard. "For all we know the whole country looks like this!" His Dortmunder the comic thief in The Hot Rock, and certain moments as his prison warden in Brubaker, show what he could do. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 16, 2025 08:55 AM (omVj0) Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 16, 2025 08:56 AM (omVj0) 109
Want an almost guaranteed smile this morning? I’ve been binge reading the bios of the Los Alamos longhairs - Fermi, Oppie, et al. Hans Bethe pic looks right out of central casting for a mad scientist. Brilliant theoretician. But under his Personal Life - they have the Los Alamos ID badge of his wife, Rose. I’d want to keep an eye on her . .
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Bethe Posted by: Common Tater at August 16, 2025 08:54 AM (Tt+ej) Wild eyes. Crazy eyes, even. When was Rule #1 established? Posted by: Count de Monet at August 16, 2025 08:57 AM (wVcYX) Posted by: Don Black at August 16, 2025 08:57 AM (AOsQT) 111
Ah, yes, the weekly prayer list. The Saturday morning thread is what really sets AoS apart from other blogs.
Even if every other thread eventually turns into a boob thread. Posted by: tankdemon You underestimate us: Prayers please for my church gal pal J. She had breast surgery to remove a few cancerous lumps. Along with that, they removed some of the lymph nodes in her armpits. It went well but she still is having pain raising her arms. Posted by: Tonypete at August 16, 2025 08:58 AM (cYBz/) 112
The thing about guys like Wayne was that the typecasting was on purpose. They weren't interested in "building their range," they were making money by doing a job. Most of them had day jobs before they were "discovered" and approached acting like bricklaying or anything else.
Those guys are still much better than 90% of what we have today. Plus, Hollywood was much more in tune with the culture. They made religious films and did them well. They weren't religious, they just liked cash. Hollywood today looks at cash cows and says "Nah, more gay and lame." Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 16, 2025 08:59 AM (ZOv7s) 113
Prayers up for the horde. Thank you for praying for my kid- it's been really really rough, but God is faithful and I'm grateful to lean on Him. Hope you all have a blessed day!!
Posted by: Moki at August 16, 2025 08:59 AM (wLjpr) 114
Jimmy Stewart is another actor who sounds like a self-parody.
Posted by: muldoon at August 16, 2025 --- Only in his comedies. There is another, darker side to him that comes out, when he channels what it was like to fly 25 combat missions over Germany. You do not want Brig. Gen. Stewart pissed at you! Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 16, 2025 *** Yes, his "dark" Westerns in particular. The Naked Spur is one, and The Man From Laramie is another. There is a long tracking shot in MfL where he is striding toward a man who has burned his wagons -- striding right toward *you*. You don't want to be there when he arrives. ("Dark" being relative. Naked Spur is hardly as dark as Unforgiven, for instance.) Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 16, 2025 09:00 AM (omVj0) 115
Our son's 42nd birthday today. The joy of our life. I began shooting videos of him in the hospital two days after he was born, and continued shooting videos throughout his childhood. A treasure-trove of memories captured forever. Happy Birthday, son, from mom and dad.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at August 16, 2025 09:00 AM (5xuJ/) 116
Proof that Limbaugh's "Journolist" e-mail uniform narrative still exists is the MSM's first two words on every news report of the Alaska meeting this morning: "Trump fails." Posted by: Auspex at August 16, 2025 09:01 AM (Y8DZL) Posted by: Don Black at August 16, 2025 09:01 AM (AOsQT) 118
Wild eyes. Crazy eyes, even.
When was Rule #1 established? Posted by: Count de Monet at August 16, 2025 08:57 AM (wVcYX) --- It is mostly honored in the breach. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 16, 2025 09:01 AM (ZOv7s) Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at August 16, 2025 09:02 AM (Tv15w) 120
Which one moves his lower jaw less- Tom Cruise or Clint Eastwood?
Posted by: muldoon at August 16, 2025 09:03 AM (I0N4X) Posted by: Don Black at August 16, 2025 09:04 AM (AOsQT) 122
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Posted by: Bulg at August 16, 2025 09:05 AM (77rzZ) 123
In 2004, he (Hans Bethe) joined 47 other Nobel laureates in signing a letter endorsing John Kerry for President of the United States as someone who would "restore science to its appropriate place in government".
--- from the Wiki article I guess even super-brainy types get it so very wrong on occasion, especially when they drift out of their lane. Posted by: Count de Monet at August 16, 2025 09:05 AM (wVcYX) 124
Ahhhh Wolfus.
You were too fast for me. Foiled again. Posted by: The Barrel at August 16, 2025 09:05 AM (J8OCH) 125
Elvis showed a lot of acting talent when he was allowed to. His performance in King Creole is solid: The songs his "Danny" sings are restricted to an indoor nightclub, and the plot is a crime story with, get this, Walter Matthau (in his early days) as the crime boss. If Elvis had been allowed to continue as a real actor, who knows, we might be speaking of him today in the same tones we use for Paul Newman.
They filmed the movie here in Nawlins -- used the exterior of my grade school as the exterior of Danny's high school when he gets expelled for fighting -- and did a pretty good job showing other areas besides the French Quarter. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 16, 2025 09:06 AM (omVj0) 126
When was Rule #1 established?
—— Ha! That was my first thought. “Hans, Hans … Don’t …well you know the rest.” Apparently unheeded, there were two products of that union. She is not unattractive. But there is a certain intensity that is a bit unsettling Posted by: Common Tater at August 16, 2025 09:06 AM (5j54Z) Posted by: Don Black at August 16, 2025 09:06 AM (AOsQT) 128
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Proof that Limbaugh's "Journolist" e-mail uniform narrative still exists is the MSM's first two words on every news report of the Alaska meeting this morning: "Trump fails." Posted by: Auspex at August 16, 2025 09:01 AM (Y8DZL) --- I think he originally said they were faxed out each morning and then he'd do supercuts of every network repeating them verbatim. Good times. He was at his peak in the late 1990s, but between the addiction and remarriages, and the burden of fame, he was in clear decline for the last few years. Reminded me of Johnny Carson - doesn't want to work, does half a show with less funny stuff, at least half of which was him talking about his iphone or flogging yet another product. He jumped the shark when he apologized to Sandra Fluke. Sad. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 16, 2025 09:07 AM (ZOv7s) 129
Tom Cruise declined to be one of Trump's Kennedy Center honorees Hadrian's Law: The more stupid and superficial the profession, the more awards and prizes it hands out. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 16, 2025 09:08 AM (kkTda) 130
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>>"Trump fails." While I won't call the meeting a failure as it's not apparent exactly what was accomplished but it seems a lot of effort and expense went into what from the outside looks like a gathering to have lunch. Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 16, 2025 09:08 AM (XV/Pl) 131
Imagine John Wayne in The Ten Commandments or Ben Hur. Can't do it.
Duke took a lot of heat for his role in The Longest Day. Posted by: Count de Monet at August 16, 2025 09:09 AM (wVcYX) 132
They picked a bad picture of Briest's wife for wiki. I googled her and she was attractive.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at August 16, 2025 09:09 AM (2NHgQ) 133
I'll be over here, grieving.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at August 16, 2025 09:02 AM (Tv15w) ==== Hashem is always listening to the prayers of a broken heart. Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 16, 2025 09:09 AM (RIvkX) 134
Some time ago someone gave USAF/USN/USMC aircraft letter designations that were supposed to indicate what its primary mission was.
A = attack B = bomber C = cargo/transport F = fighter H = vertical / helicopter K= tanker/multi-purpose and so on... During the 50's and 60's the so-called "Century Series" of fighters were built; F-100 Super Sabre, F-104 Starfighter and so on. I think someone thought that was getting a bit over the top, so they resurrected the old "P" designations (Pursuit: as in P-51) as "F" and started the numbering over (F-4 Phantom) and so on. Same with the bombers. YMMV Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 16, 2025 09:09 AM (Q4IgG) 135
Good morning and prayers up, fellow hordelings! Re: "every other thread turns into a boob thread" - I think, to paraphrase Ben Franklin on wine, that boobs are also proof that God exists and he loves us! Everyone loves boobs!
Posted by: Farmer Bob at August 16, 2025 09:10 AM (hlNLQ) 136
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Bethe
Posted by: Common Tater at August 16, 2025 08:54 AM (Tt+ej) Wild eyes. Crazy eyes, even. When was Rule #1 established? Posted by: Count de Monet at August 16, 2025 *** Crazy frog eyes. Brrrr. I seem to recall reading in SF about something called the "Bethe cycle" in nuclear physics or fusion in stars, named for Hans -- or so Lumo AI tells me. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 16, 2025 09:10 AM (omVj0) 137
131 Were Wayne and Heston ever in a movie together? Because that would’ve been an interesting pairing.
Posted by: Bulg at August 16, 2025 09:11 AM (77rzZ) 138
Not sure about the new pope's political leanings, but he does, at least, seem to be, you know, Catholic.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at August 16, 2025 09:11 AM (hlNLQ) 139
Imagine John Wayne in The Ten Commandments or Ben Hur. Can't do it.
Duke took a lot of heat for his role in The Longest Day. Posted by: Count de Monet at August 16, 2025 09:09 AM (wVcYX) --- Wayne is great in "The Sands of Iwo Jima." Edward G. Robinson in "The Ten Commandments" is great. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 16, 2025 09:11 AM (ZOv7s) 140
When was Rule #1 established?
—— Ha! That was my first thought. “Hans, Hans … Don’t …well you know the rest.” Apparently unheeded, there were two products of that union. She is not unattractive. But there is a certain intensity that is a bit unsettling Posted by: Common Tater at August 16, 2025 09:06 AM (5j54Z) She gives off an overly attached girlfriend / wife meme vibe. Or maybe, like many of us, she just takes a bad DMV / badge picture. Posted by: Count de Monet at August 16, 2025 09:12 AM (wVcYX) 141
Duke took a lot of heat for his role in The Longest Day.
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 16, 2025 09:09 AM (wVcYX) Why? Posted by: dantesed at August 16, 2025 09:13 AM (Oy/m2) 142
Imagine John Wayne in The Ten Commandments or Ben Hur. Can't do it.
Duke took a lot of heat for his role in The Longest Day. Posted by: Count de Monet Wayne as Genghis Khan in The Conqueror was Academy level cringe. Posted by: Tonypete at August 16, 2025 09:13 AM (cYBz/) 143
Drink your coffee. Take your medicine. Get going, Eromero.
Posted by: Eromero at August 16, 2025 09:13 AM (LHPAg) 144
Edward G. Robinson was great in everything.
Posted by: Bulg at August 16, 2025 09:14 AM (77rzZ) 145
Imma pray that the starving children in Gaza are able to afford to pay for food aid provided by U.S. taxpayers, stolen by Hamas, and withheld by the UN.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 16, 2025 08:51 AM (RIvkX) I pray that Israel soundly defeats Hamas so that Gazan residents can live in peace. Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at August 16, 2025 09:14 AM (h7ZuX) 146
Thanks for the Coffee Thread and Prayer Revival, Mis Hum and Annie!
I know exactly how that cat feels... Prayers up for all of God's children. All of them. And may God continue to bless the U.S.A. and Israel. Posted by: Legally Sufficient at August 16, 2025 09:14 AM (kB9dk) 147
> Imagine John Wayne in The Ten Commandments
----- telling Pharaoh 'Fill your hands, you sonofabitch!' Posted by: Don Black at August 16, 2025 09:14 AM (AOsQT) 148
Wayne is great in "The Sands of Iwo Jima."
Edward G. Robinson in "The Ten Commandments" is great. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 16, 2025 09:11 AM (ZOv7s) Totally agree. Posted by: Count de Monet at August 16, 2025 09:15 AM (wVcYX) 149
Whatever Putin wanted to get out of the personal meeting, I don't think he got. Russians brought a lot of business people along, but none of those discussions happened. Trump already said, "no peace, no business deals." It was all hush , hush too. No questions, just statements from the two leaders. Posted by: runner at August 16, 2025 09:15 AM (g47mK) 150
143 What, no mention of Ovaltine?
Posted by: Bulg at August 16, 2025 09:15 AM (77rzZ) 151
Illegal alien and TikTok-er arrested by ICE yesterday. Naturally she creates a scene and demands to go to the hospital.
What's outrageous: Los Angeles parking enforcement tows the ICE vehicle away during the arrest. Apparently, this is not the first time they have done this either. The tow trucks follow the ICE vehicles and wait for them to exit. No doubt Mayor Bass endorses this. Posted by: IrishEi at August 16, 2025 09:15 AM (3ImbR) 152
I think people expect John Wayne to be John Wayne in every film because John Wayne played a John Wayne role. Anything else would be unsettling.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 16, 2025 08:42 AM (kkTda)M The Shootist wasn't typical John Wayne. Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 16, 2025 09:15 AM (g8Ew8) 153
Not sure about the new pope's political leanings, but he does, at least, seem to be, you know, Catholic.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at August 16, 2025 09:11 AM (hlNLQ) --- Looking back, it is amazing at just far off the reservation Francis went. He wasn't the pope we wanted, but he was the pope we needed because he demonstrated many important things, such as: the pope is not a dictator who can change Church teachings at will. He also exposed the pedo network in his efforts to cover it up. Finally, he introduced a whole new generation to the Traditional Latin Mass, demonstrating once again how the Streisand Effect functions. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 16, 2025 09:15 AM (ZOv7s) 154
Edward G. Robinson was great in everything.
Posted by: Bulg at August 16, 2025 09:14 AM (77rzZ) Johnny Rocco. Posted by: dantesed at August 16, 2025 09:16 AM (Oy/m2) 155
Duke took a lot of heat for his role in The Longest Day.
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 16, 2025 09:09 AM (wVcYX) Why? Posted by: dantesed at August 16, 2025 09:13 AM (Oy/m2) Too old for the character, mostly. Also he John Wayned it up vs portraying the actual guy. Posted by: Count de Monet at August 16, 2025 09:17 AM (wVcYX) 156
Isn't Tom Cruise still involved in all that scientology nonsense?
Posted by: Fenrisulven at August 16, 2025 09:18 AM (ciYHQ) 157
John Wayne portrayed masculine men, because he was a masculine man, and there were plenty of roles which called for the masculine, hero-type in his era. I don't think it was so much type casting as it was that he fit the paradigm for what a man was supposed to be, at the time (and, imho, always), ergo, plenty of roles for him to play a type of character that was a good fit/comfortable. He was, I think, a great actor, much like Tom Cruise, shunned by the Academy for his politics versus his capabilities. My favorite is The Quiet Man.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at August 16, 2025 09:18 AM (hlNLQ) 158
Whatever Putin wanted to get out of the personal meeting, I don't think he got. Russians brought a lot of business people along, but none of those discussions happened. Trump already said, "no peace, no business deals." It was all hush , hush too. No questions, just statements from the two leaders.
Posted by: runner at August 16, 2025 09:15 AM (g47mK) --- People forget that Cold War summits often seemed to go nowhere at first, but important points came to light and subsequently resulted in agreements. Trump is not afraid to walk away, which is why he wins more often than not. Everyone saying that Russia is on the ropes is dead wrong, but Russia is under some strain, far more than we are. Trump knows this, and also knows that the Russiagate indictments are coming, so meeting with Putin is a twofer. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 16, 2025 09:19 AM (ZOv7s) 159
Not sure about the new pope's political leanings, but he does, at least, seem to be, you know, Catholic. Posted by: Farmer Bob at August 16, 2025 09:11 AM (hlNLQ) I'm just a dumb pew-sitter, so intricate theological discussions are beyond me, but here's the way I see it. There are things we just don't question. Force equals mass time acceleration. The speed of light is 299,792,458 meters per second. The atomic mass of cobalt is 58.933. Sure, we may fiddle with things at the 10th decimal as we learn more, but otherwise these things are fixed. That's the equivalent of the Magesterium of the Church. Now if the IUPAC were to say one fine day that the atomic mass of cobalt is somewhere between 55 and 60, not only would there be chaos in applications where cobalt is used, you'd also have real questions about the authority (and sanity) of the IUPAC in doing such a thing. That's the equivalent of Francis's pontificate. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 16, 2025 09:19 AM (kkTda) 160
> Imagine John Wayne in The Ten Commandments
----- telling Pharaoh 'Fill your hands, you sonofabitch!' Posted by: Don Black at August 16, 2025 09:14 AM (AOsQT) At the Exodus scene, "Awright, saddle up Hebrews!" Posted by: Count de Monet at August 16, 2025 09:19 AM (wVcYX) 161
osted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at August 16, 2025 09:00 AM
Dailytimewaster has a picture of mother and not much older than toddler then new picture of adult son and greying mother. Posted by: Skip at August 16, 2025 09:20 AM (+qU29) 162
41 I put ghee in my coffee.
I'm a gheezer. Posted by: Quarter Twenty I am going to start the butter in coffee thing today Thanks for the reminder Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at August 16, 2025 09:20 AM (xu4nt) 163
Looking back, it is amazing at just far off the reservation Francis went.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd Did he make his "lead us not into temptation" edit out of the Lord's Prayer stick for you Romans? Posted by: Auspex at August 16, 2025 09:20 AM (Y8DZL) 164
He wasn't the pope we wanted, but he was the pope we needed because he demonstrated many important things, such as: the pope is not a dictator who can change Church teachings at will.
Someday, y'all will realize that you never needed a pope at all. Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at August 16, 2025 09:21 AM (a4flb) 165
I think Cruise politely declining Kennedy Center is similar to Jordan politely declining to endorse dems- ie- republicans by sneakers too. Except reverse and he's in an industry dominated by libs that already hate him enough and snub him for everything, except, you know, actual roles, because he brings in the big bucks.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at August 16, 2025 09:21 AM (hlNLQ) 166
What's outrageous: Los Angeles parking enforcement tows the ICE vehicle away during the arrest.
Apparently, this is not the first time they have done this either. The tow trucks follow the ICE vehicles and wait for them to exit. No doubt Mayor Bass endorses this. Posted by: IrishEi at August 16, 2025 09:15 AM (3ImbR) If there isn't a law stating that law enforcement vehicles cannot be towed while they're actively in use, there should be! Posted by: pookysgirl very rarely wants more laws at August 16, 2025 09:22 AM (Wt5PA) 167
Whatever Putin wanted to get out of the personal meeting, I don't think he got. Russians brought a lot of business people along, but none of those discussions happened. Trump already said, "no peace, no business deals." It was all hush , hush too. No questions, just statements from the two leaders.
Posted by: runner at August 16, 2025 09:15 AM (g47mK) --- People forget that Cold War summits often seemed to go nowhere at first, but important points came to light and subsequently resulted in agreements. Trump is not afraid to walk away, which is why he wins more often than not. Everyone saying that Russia is on the ropes is dead wrong, but Russia is under some strain, far more than we are. Trump knows this, and also knows that the Russiagate indictments are coming, so meeting with Putin is a twofer. Agree. Sometimes, the lack of agreement is a sign of progress. In this case, Putin came in hoping Trump would give him things without an agreement. He now knows that won't happen. Posted by: Archimedes at August 16, 2025 09:23 AM (Riz8t) Posted by: TecumsehTea at August 16, 2025 09:23 AM (mZ/55) 169
Wasn't Soylent Green Edwatd G Eobinson's last movie?
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at August 16, 2025 09:24 AM (5+Y60) 170
CO Gray Wollf Update:
Current CO wolf population after three rounds of releases of transferred wolves ( 2023, 2024, 2025), minus several deaths, plus a couple of new litters, stands at approx. 20 total. Two more rounds of imports from B.C. are planned. The PTB estimate that the population needed to achieve steady state sustainable levels is between 150 and 200. They've got a way to go. Posted by: muldoon at August 16, 2025 09:24 AM (I0N4X) 171
Did he make his "lead us not into temptation" edit out of the Lord's Prayer stick for you Romans?
Posted by: Auspex at August 16, 2025 09:20 AM (Y8DZL) --- I'd forgotten about that. No, I never or saw it put into practice. After a while, people got used to ignoring him. I think the whole Fiducia Supplicans was a bit of "Pay attention to me!" and it backfired in a major way. It wasn't even his work, but Cardinal Fernandez, who was then dispatched to apologize to the Copts, who were on the bring of entering Communion with Rome and froze the talks as a result. The Orthodox response to Leo is impressive and perhaps indicative of his orthodoxy. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 16, 2025 09:24 AM (ZOv7s) 172
Easy fix for the tow truck issue- simply leave an extra officer behind and arrest the tow truck driver and charge with obstruction of justice. When he flips and says was directed by city to do so, arrest person that ordered it for conspiracy to obstruct justice, go up the chain.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at August 16, 2025 09:25 AM (hlNLQ) 173
Wasn't Soylent Green Edwatd G Eobinson's last movie?
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at August 16, 2025 09:24 AM (5+Y60) I believe so. Posted by: Count de Monet at August 16, 2025 09:25 AM (wVcYX) 174
169 I believe so.
Posted by: Bulg at August 16, 2025 09:26 AM (77rzZ) 175
Pretty sure a city parking ordinance doesn't trump federal law, what with the supremacy clause and all. So there doesn't really need to be a law against beyond the law that allows federal police to act as federal police.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at August 16, 2025 09:26 AM (hlNLQ) 176
And we just saw tiny "water forget me nots" by the canal . I didn't even know there was a variety of water forget me nots. And thus endeth the walk and flower talk for the day ( and most people here say "Yay" 😉because my phone is about to run out of juice. May God be with all the horde and their families and friends and make rough places smooth. May you all have a blessed day and know that you are a blessing to others!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 16, 2025 09:27 AM (Xr+x7) 177
osted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at August 16, 2025 09:00 AM
Dailytimewaster has a picture of mother and not much older than toddler then new picture of adult son and greying mother. Posted by: Skip at August 16, 2025 09:20 AM (+qU29) Wife was 34 when we had our son (we were married in 1972), and I was 36. We are definitely "greying", for sure. I digitized and edited all the videos I shot of him throughout his childhood, including vacations, and burned a set of DVDs a few years ago for him. Where have the years gone? Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at August 16, 2025 09:27 AM (5xuJ/) 178
Easy fix for the tow truck issue- simply leave an extra [heavily armed] officer behind and arrest the tow truck driver and charge with obstruction of justice. When he flips and says was directed by city to do so, arrest person that ordered it for conspiracy to obstruct justice, go up the chain.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at August 16, 2025 09:25 AM (hlNLQ) Suggested edit. Endorsed! Posted by: Count de Monet at August 16, 2025 09:27 AM (wVcYX) 179
>The PTB estimate that the population needed to achieve steady state sustainable levels is between 150 and 200. They've got a way to go.
Posted by: muldoon ----- and they will either get there, or the wolves will die trying Posted by: Don Black at August 16, 2025 09:27 AM (AOsQT) 180
Trump is not afraid to walk away, which is why he wins more often than not. Everyone saying that Russia is on the ropes is dead wrong, but Russia is under some strain, far more than we are. Trump knows this, and also knows that the Russiagate indictments are coming, so meeting with Putin is a twofer.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 16, 2025 09:19 AM (ZOv7s Russia is under some strain, wars are costly, but Euros know that when dealing with Russia , they can strain for decades. Right now the European gang of degenerates hopes to either get some immediate win - "security guarantees" from the US for Ukraine, or to continue indefinitely with hopes of crushing Putin. From the Russian perspective, they probably want to remove a bit of pressure, since Trump is holding back their BRICS project. Posted by: runner at August 16, 2025 09:27 AM (g47mK) 181
I believe so.
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 16, 2025 09:25 AM (wVcYX) His final scene in the movie is a scene of dying while watching a film. Posted by: dantesed at August 16, 2025 09:28 AM (Oy/m2) 182
Putin wants Karkhov. Plus Odessa and maybe the entire Black Sea coast.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at August 16, 2025 09:28 AM (XvL8K) 183
Just remember, folks, they elected an American as Pope as a counter to Trump. View Leo’s actions and rhetoric accordingly.
Posted by: Bulg at August 16, 2025 09:28 AM (77rzZ) 184
I don's see this war ending any time soon.
Posted by: runner at August 16, 2025 09:29 AM (g47mK) 185
Prayers up for all who asked, but especially for the estimable Perfesser.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 16, 2025 09:29 AM (Zebv+) 186
Someday, y'all will realize that you never needed a pope at all.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at August 16, 2025 09:21 AM (a4flb) --- We're doing quite fine, thanks. And it's not just the pope, but the traditions and the Magisterium. Not a single of the Reformation churches is doing well. All have splintered into literally thousands of factions. I'm optimistic that Leo will finish the work of bringing the Copts in to Communion and it will be interesting to see how much of the East/West split really is about politics and culture rather than faith. The pie fight within Orthodoxy over Ukraine has shown that our Eastern Rite brothers have problems of their own where a unifying figure could be of some use. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 16, 2025 09:30 AM (ZOv7s) 187
I would like to see the air force bring back the "P" designation for pursuit/fighters and the "D" for bombers/destroyers.
And Dildos. Posted by: D-66, Big Green Dildo at August 16, 2025 09:30 AM (R/m4+) 188
> What's outrageous: Los Angeles parking enforcement tows the ICE vehicle away during the arrest.
--------- Leave an armed agent with the vehicle. Getting towed is probably cheaper than leaving it unattended and having the assholes vandalize it. Or Run an op against all the tow truck companies that do biz with the city government. Repo every truck. Seriously, it's getting just punitive with Mayor Bass now so amp it up. Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 16, 2025 09:31 AM (Q4IgG) 189
I believe so.
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 16, 2025 09:25 AM (wVcY I believe so. Posted by: Bulg at August 16, 2025 09:26 AM (77rzZ) I believe so. Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 16, 2025 09:31 AM (g8Ew8) 190
Wasn't Soylent Green Edwatd G Eobinson's last movie?
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at August 16, 2025 *** It was. And he never won a standard Oscar either, despite being a star and acclaimed actor for forty years. He was voted a special Oscar after his death, I think. Some years ago I wrote a short story set in 1937 where Robinson, under his birth name, travels to his native Romania and encounters a vampire. I flatter myself that I captured the real man, as I imagine him to have been, and also his tough screen persona delivering a challenge to an anti-Semite he meets in the hotel dining room. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 16, 2025 09:32 AM (omVj0) 191
I believe so.
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 16, 2025 09:25 AM (wVcY I believe so. Posted by: Bulg at August 16, 2025 09:26 AM (77rzZ) I believe so. The idea is ludicrous. Posted by: That guy who always has to disagree at August 16, 2025 09:32 AM (Riz8t) 192
good morning MisHum, Horde
Posted by: callsign claymore at August 16, 2025 09:32 AM (U08HM) 193
Trump and Putin should make a DEAL!
Big Joe: What kind of deal? A DEAL, deal! Maybe this Putin guy's a Republican. "Business is business," right? Posted by: Crapgame at August 16, 2025 09:32 AM (wVcYX) 194
Just remember, folks, they elected an American as Pope as a counter to Trump. View Leo’s actions and rhetoric accordingly.
Posted by: Bulg at August 16, 2025 09:28 AM (77rzZ) --- LOL! No. They elected an American because the Church needs American money and energy. Catholicism remains a vital force in the US, and the seminaries are packed. That's not the case in Europe or much of South America. Africa is thriving, but it is poor. American money can strengthen missionary work. It can also strength the Church against CCP persecution, which Francis was willing to tolerate (to his great shame). Trump is a minor figure in such discussions. Very minor. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 16, 2025 09:32 AM (ZOv7s) 195
172 Easy fix for the tow truck issue- simply leave an extra officer behind and arrest the tow truck driver and charge with obstruction of justice.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at August 16, 2025 09:25 AM (hlNLQ) Yeah, seems like once would be enough to learn that you leave the driver in the vehicle. Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at August 16, 2025 09:33 AM (h7ZuX) 196
Zelensky is going to be in the WH on Monday. Why, Trump , WHY? Test him for drugs before letting him on premises.
Posted by: runner at August 16, 2025 09:34 AM (g47mK) 197
Checking in.
Hip surgery on Wednesday. Can't wait. Having trouble getting around. If you all will keep me in your thoughts for the next couple of weeks I would greatly appreciate it. Now to read the comments and see how the rest of the horde is doing. Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 16, 2025 09:34 AM (t/2Uw) 198
If you want Edward G. Robinson at his best as an actor, watch the "insurance lecture" scene from Double Indemnity. A short scene, and yet he dominates it like nobody's business.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 16, 2025 09:34 AM (omVj0) 199
So much cancer. Sorry to hear Susan is back in the hospital. Prayers up for all the requests.
I finally see the cardiologist this Friday. Sometimes the Lord's answer to prayer is just "Wait" and that can be hard to do. Starting to feel better and the medication is bringing the BP down, but very slowly. Thank you for the prayers. Posted by: TecumsehTea at August 16, 2025 09:34 AM (mZ/55) 200
Butter in Coffee? Why? ProTip: Cream isbutter, more or less, it just hasn’t been churned out yet.
Posted by: Common Tater at August 16, 2025 09:36 AM (KMICP) 201
Putin is playing with fire now. Trump got involved because he thought his participation would lead to peace, and if Putin is just gaming Trump to buy time that will be a dangerous game.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 16, 2025 09:36 AM (Zebv+) 202
If you want Edward G. Robinson at his best as an actor, watch the "insurance lecture" scene from Double Indemnity. A short scene, and yet he dominates it like nobody's business.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 16, 2025 09:34 AM (omVj0) --- A great film in so many ways, not the least of which is casting against type. Robinson the protagonist, MacMurray the villain. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 16, 2025 09:36 AM (ZOv7s) 203
196 Zelensky is going to be in the WH on Monday. Why, Trump , WHY? Test him for drugs before letting him on premises.
Posted by: runner at August 16, 2025 09:34 AM (g47mK) And the media is are all in a tizzy because they are going straight to peace talks not Cease fire just like Putin wants ! Trump is Putin's puppet ! Posted by: It's me donna at August 16, 2025 09:37 AM (VE6XX) 204
Pondering Kindle Unlimited again, had it before but dropped it. A few books on my reading list and would save a bit if I read them in timely fashion.
Posted by: Skip at August 16, 2025 09:38 AM (+qU29) 205
Yeah, seems like once would be enough to learn that you leave the driver in the vehicle.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at August 16, 2025 09:33 AM (h7ZuX) My understanding is that ICE is stretched pretty thin, so leaving an agent in the vehicle would stretch them even thinner. ICE is augmenting with ATF, DEA, etc, but they've got a huge job to do. Posted by: pookysgirl would love to see the IRS roll out with ICE at August 16, 2025 09:38 AM (Wt5PA) 206
> Zelensky is going to be in the WH on Monday. Why, Trump , WHY? Test him for drugs before letting him on premises.
---------- Trump's going to deliver Putin's ultimatum to Little-Z and say whether he's behind Putin or not. Given how poorly Little-Z behaved last time he was in the White House I think I know how this meeting goes... Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 16, 2025 09:38 AM (Q4IgG) 207
Fred MacMurray also played a bad guy in The Apartment and in The Caine Mutiny.
Posted by: Bulg at August 16, 2025 09:38 AM (77rzZ) Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 16, 2025 09:39 AM (RIvkX) 209
Speaking of great power competition, kudos to those Filipino boat-drivers. They literally made the Chicoms act out the pursuit scene in The Empire Strikes Back.
And then they circled back and offered assistance. Boss move. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 16, 2025 09:39 AM (ZOv7s) 210
Posted by: TecumsehTea at August 16, 2025 09:34 AM (mZ/55)
I am glad you are feeling somewhat better, dear, and will keep you in prayer for your cardiologist appt. My phone lasted this long. Yay! Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 16, 2025 09:39 AM (2Gpua) 211
208 They say "Trump failed" which means "We want Trump to fail."
We see you. Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 16, 2025 09:39 AM (RIvkX) Of course they did..... Prayers for all in need here... Posted by: It's me donna at August 16, 2025 09:39 AM (VE6XX) 212
If you want Edward G. Robinson at his best as an actor, watch the "insurance lecture" scene from Double Indemnity. A short scene, and yet he dominates it like nobody's business.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 16, 2025 --- A great film in so many ways, not the least of which is casting against type. Robinson the protagonist, MacMurray the villain. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 16, 2025 *** It is . . . and much as I like the ending of James M. Cain's novel, the one Raymond Chandler penned for the film is even better and more apt. I wonder if Cain liked it. If I knew anything about the insurance business from the inside, I'd write a crime story about Keyes the insurance expert! The story goes that Robinson asked Cain to write a separate, second story featuring Keyes, so that EGR could play him again. Cain, I think, was in favor of doing that, but never did. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 16, 2025 09:39 AM (omVj0) 213
Fred MacMurray also played a bad guy in The Apartment and in The Caine Mutiny.
Posted by: Bulg at August 16, 2025 09:38 AM (77rzZ) --- In "The Caine Mutiny" he's not so much a villain as heel. You think he's a good guy and then does the heel turn under pressure. Great role. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 16, 2025 09:40 AM (ZOv7s) 214
> My understanding is that ICE is stretched pretty thin, so leaving an agent in the vehicle would stretch them even thinner.
---------- They are recruiting like mad. Father/son or mother/daughter pairs that sign up together get big bonuses. Bonus for just singles too. Age requirement upped as well... so older folks can apply. *There's a physical fitness requirement for all applicants.* Apparently they need 10's of thousands of agents. Now. Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 16, 2025 09:41 AM (Q4IgG) 215
By the way, the Euro degenerates are refusing to let go of the idea of Ukraine's NATO membership. They released the statement after Trump's summit saying that "No limitations should be placed on Ukraine’s armed forces or on its cooperation with third countries. Russia cannot have a veto against Ukraine‘s pathway to the EU and NATO". This just shows you how serious they are about peace. This is what caused the war in the first place. I hope that the Eu collapses into a puddle of crap (that it really is without US subsidies).
Posted by: runner at August 16, 2025 09:42 AM (g47mK) 216
Morning all, thx MisHum.
I wonder if Zelensky will have another on camera lecture when he goes to the White House Monday Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 16, 2025 09:42 AM (xffwU) 217
213 Agreed, but he’s still a bad guy.
Posted by: Bulg at August 16, 2025 09:42 AM (77rzZ) 218
Fred MacMurray also played a bad guy in The Apartment and in The Caine Mutiny.
Posted by: Bulg at August 16, 2025 *** The story I've heard is that after The Apartment came out, a woman accosted Fred in the grocery and complained that she'd taken her kids to that movie and been outraged at the subject matter. Of course Fred had nothing to do with the creation of the movie, but he decided that henceforth he would never play another bad guy, and didn't. There is a fine 1950s Western called Face of a Fugitive where he plays a train robber who has a crisis of conscience. The film also has a ticking clock like all good thrillers, a deadline he's up against, so there is even more suspense. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 16, 2025 09:43 AM (omVj0) 219
"All My Sons" was a good Edward G. Robinson movie. War grifter gets it in the end.
Posted by: Zombie Gene Hackman at August 16, 2025 09:43 AM (R/m4+) 220
>Zelensky is going to be in the WH on Monday. Why, Trump , WHY? Test him for drugs before letting him on premises.
---- and make him wear a coat and tie Posted by: Don Black at August 16, 2025 09:43 AM (AOsQT) 221
Euros are trying to wait out Trump. They think that a democrat will take over in '28 and they will have another Biden-like foreign policy.
Posted by: runner at August 16, 2025 09:43 AM (g47mK) 222
It is . . . and much as I like the ending of James M. Cain's novel, the one Raymond Chandler penned for the film is even better and more apt. I wonder if Cain liked it.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 16, 2025 09:39 AM (omVj0) --- I have not read the book but a friend of mine was discussing the differences and that the film is arguably better because of some of the changes it made, such as making Queeg less of a total jerk and hinting that he has been worn down and was overage for his command. The same is true of "The Great Santini" and I have read the book. Softening the title character actually made for a better story. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 16, 2025 09:43 AM (ZOv7s) 223
Russia bombed Kharkiv just as the press conference wrapped. Putin didn't flip off Trump at the conference, just after.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 16, 2025 09:44 AM (zG/eu) 224
197 Checking in.
Hip surgery on Wednesday. Can't wait. Having trouble getting around. If you all will keep me in your thoughts for the next couple of weeks I would greatly appreciate it. Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 16, 2025 09:34 AM (t/2Uw) You got it, Sharon! Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at August 16, 2025 09:44 AM (h7ZuX) 225
"All My Sons" was a good Edward G. Robinson movie. War grifter gets it in the end.
Posted by: Zombie Gene Hackman at August 16, 2025 *** The Red House from 1947 or so features EGR as a farmer who is steadily and quietly going mad. Sort of a Gothic, I guess. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 16, 2025 09:44 AM (omVj0) 226
Russia bombed Kharkiv just as the press conference wrapped. Putin didn't flip off Trump at the conference, just after.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 16, 2025 09:44 AM (zG/eu) do you know where Kharkov is ? Posted by: runner at August 16, 2025 09:45 AM (g47mK) 227
>Zelensky is going to be in the WH on Monday. Why, Trump , WHY? Test him for drugs before letting him on premises.
---- and make him wear a coat and tie Posted by: Don Black at August 16, 2025 09:43 AM (AOsQT) After he passes the newly restored Presidential Physical Fitness Test. Posted by: Count de Monet at August 16, 2025 09:45 AM (wVcYX) 228
They think that a democrat will take over in '28 and they will have another Biden-like foreign policy.
Posted by: runner at August 16, 2025 09:43 AM (g47mK) ----------- I can't imagine anyone with half a brain thinks this. Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 16, 2025 09:45 AM (zG/eu) 229
I pray that Israel soundly defeats Hamas so that Gazan residents can live in peace.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at August 16, 2025 09:14 AM (h7ZuX) Every time I hear or read, "Free Palestine," my immediate thought is, "The IDF is working on it." Posted by: tankdemon at August 16, 2025 09:45 AM (xhKGy) 230
By the way, the Euro degenerates are refusing to let go of the idea of Ukraine's NATO membership. They released the statement after Trump's summit saying that "No limitations should be placed on Ukraine’s armed forces or on its cooperation with third countries. Russia cannot have a veto against Ukraine‘s pathway to the EU and NATO". This just shows you how serious they are about peace. This is what caused the war in the first place. I hope that the Eu collapses into a puddle of crap (that it really is without US subsidies).
Posted by: runner at August 16, 2025 09:42 AM (g47mK) --- Well of course they want unlimited American security guarantees! Trump sees right through them. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 16, 2025 09:45 AM (ZOv7s) 231
I have not read the book but a friend of mine was discussing the differences and that the film is arguably better because of some of the changes it made, such as making Queeg less of a total jerk and hinting that he has been worn down and was overage for his command.
The same is true of "The Great Santini" and I have read the book. Softening the title character actually made for a better story. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 16, 2025 *** If you mean Caine Mutiny, AHL, I believe Barney the defense counsel makes exactly those points in his drunken, furious tirade late in the book, after the court-martial is over. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 16, 2025 09:46 AM (omVj0) 232
Floated this yesterday:
Ceasefire on existing lines, expiring on set date. Ukraine holds elections during ceasefire to determine if they will accept existing lines. It's on them if they elect leaders who say no, and lose even more territory thereafter. Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at August 16, 2025 09:46 AM (XvL8K) 233
In "The Caine Mutiny" he's not so much a villain as heel. You think he's a good guy and then does the heel turn under pressure. Great role.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 16, 2025 09:40 AM (ZOv7s) ---------- Great actor. Outstanding businessman and winemaker too. Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 16, 2025 09:48 AM (zG/eu) 234
That cat is grumpy but cute, just like MisHum.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 16, 2025 09:48 AM (kpS4V) 235
Well of course they want unlimited American security guarantees! Trump sees right through them.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 16, 2025 09:45 AM (ZOv7s) They have a nice little project going there. Live off US and Arab (Moslem) money, stick their nose where it does not belong, and start wars. Posted by: runner at August 16, 2025 09:48 AM (g47mK) 236
Barney’s speech at the end of Caine Mutiny is great. That’s a role I’d love to play.
Posted by: Bulg at August 16, 2025 09:48 AM (77rzZ) 237
If you mean Caine Mutiny, AHL, I believe Barney the defense counsel makes exactly those points in his drunken, furious tirade late in the book, after the court-martial is over.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 16, 2025 09:46 AM (omVj0) You know something? When I was studying law, and Mr. Keefer here was writing his stories, and you, Willie, were tearing up the playing fields of dear old Princeton, who was standing guard over this fat, dumb, happy country of ours, eh? Not us. Oh, no, we knew you couldn't make any money in the service. So who did the dirty work for us? QUEEG did! And a lot of other guys tough, sharp guys, who didn't crack up like Queeg. Posted by: Barney at August 16, 2025 09:48 AM (R/m4+) 238
Not only should Ukraine be denied NATO membership, they should take away Turkey's
Posted by: It's me donna at August 16, 2025 09:49 AM (VE6XX) 239
I used Lumo, the Proton AI chatbot, to find out if my dim memory of the "Bethe cycle" was correct and if it had been named for this Hans Bethe. Yes to both. So far Lumo has been fine . . . but I'm asking it for matters of recorded, scientific fact, not about gray areas or matters of opinion. We will see how it does with that.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 16, 2025 09:49 AM (omVj0) 240
And Dildos.
Posted by: D-66, Big Green Dildo I, for one, sleep sounder knowing that there is no Green Dildo Gap with the Russkies. Posted by: Auspex at August 16, 2025 09:49 AM (Y8DZL) 241
Not only should Ukraine be denied NATO membership, they should take away Turkey's
== hear , hear Posted by: runner at August 16, 2025 09:50 AM (g47mK) 242
And Dildos.
Posted by: D-66, Big Green Dildo I, for one, sleep sounder knowing that there is no Green Dildo Gap with the Russkies. Posted by: Auspex We need common sense dildo control!!! Posted by: Tonypete at August 16, 2025 09:51 AM (cYBz/) 243
In "The Caine Mutiny" he's not so much a villain as heel. You think he's a good guy and then does the heel turn under pressure. Great role.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 16, 2025 09:40 AM (ZOv7s) ---------- Great actor. Outstanding businessman and winemaker too. Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 16, 2025 09:48 AM (zG/eu) Absent-minded inventor, too. (Flubber) Posted by: Count de Monet at August 16, 2025 09:52 AM (wVcYX) 244
Jose Ferrar was great in Caine Mutiny as Barney
Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 16, 2025 09:52 AM (xffwU) 245
Barney’s speech at the end of Caine Mutiny is great. That’s a role I’d love to play.
Posted by: Bulg at August 16, 2025 *** The stage play of Court-Martial had Henry Fonda in the role, I think, and Lloyd Nolan as Queeg -- a very good choice in both cases. A young actor who would shortly burn up the TV screen on ABC-TV had a small role in the play. My paperback tie-in edition of the novel has a couple of pics of the cast. James Garner is clearly recognizable in his navy uniform! Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 16, 2025 09:52 AM (omVj0) 246
233 In "The Caine Mutiny" he's not so much a villain as heel. You think he's a good guy and then does the heel turn under pressure. Great role.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 16, 2025 09:40 AM (ZOv7s) One of the things I like a lot about that movie is that Jose Ferrer doesn’t even make an appearance until about 2/3 of the way through, but he quickly becomes the most dominant character of them all. Kind of the voice of the conscience of all of us. Posted by: Tom Servo at August 16, 2025 09:52 AM (MOJY1) 247
there isn't a law stating that law enforcement vehicles cannot be towed while they're actively in use, there should be!
Posted by: pookysgirl Seems like interfering with official business to me. Book em, Danno. Posted by: From about That Time at August 16, 2025 09:54 AM (n4GiU) 248
Ferrer's vocal mannerisms were perfect for the role.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 16, 2025 09:54 AM (zG/eu) 249
Thanks Dash. I know you've been suffering leg issues as well. I'll let you know if it is the "piece of cake" everyone says it is😏. All I know is that I want it done so I'm back in charge of my life.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 16, 2025 09:54 AM (t/2Uw) 250
Dustin Hoffman only plays Dustin Hoffman.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd Beg to differ... I walked out of the theater after seeing Rainman and told my friend.. "Hoffman is getting an Oscar for that.". He was seriously amazing in that role. He wasn't Dustin Hoffman in Hook either. Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at August 16, 2025 09:55 AM (2J/Lj) 251
Barney’s speech at the end of Caine Mutiny is great. That’s a role I’d love to play.
Posted by: Bulg at August 16, 2025 *** And yes; that's the kind of speech an actor dreams of getting to deliver, like Kirk's "bluff" Corbomite speech to the alien vessel, or Spike's speech about love in a Season Three Buffy. They are the kind of speech an actor knows will draw every eye to him, and keep it there until he finishes. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 16, 2025 09:55 AM (omVj0) 252
Matt Damon!
Posted by: Matt Damon at August 16, 2025 09:56 AM (g47mK) 253
Fuck 'em. Let Russia and Ukraine kill themselves. I really don't give a shit anymore.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 16, 2025 09:56 AM (g8Ew8) 254
Of course the Leftists have taken over Europe so they are sure America will follow them
Posted by: Skip at August 16, 2025 09:56 AM (+qU29) 255
Posted by: TecumsehTea at August 16, 2025 09:23 AM (mZ/55)
Good to see you posting. Hopefully you're feeling better. Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at August 16, 2025 09:56 AM (lFFaq) 256
"The Mysterious Barricades" by Francois Couperin just played . So beautiful.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 16, 2025 09:57 AM (kpS4V) 257
Kudos to the Filipino Coast Guard Captain for driving the Chinese into each other. Play rough and rough things happen. And offering the losers medical assistance was a beautiful touch.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 16, 2025 09:57 AM (zG/eu) 258
Who are great male actors these day? Leading man type? can't think of one.
Posted by: runner at August 16, 2025 09:57 AM (g47mK) 259
258 Seems like Cruise is still going strong.
Posted by: Bulg at August 16, 2025 09:59 AM (77rzZ) 260
Who are great male actors these day? Leading man type? can't think of one.
Posted by: runner at August 16, 2025 09:57 AM (g47mK) Denzel Washington is pretty good. And he isn't a flipping loon. Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at August 16, 2025 10:00 AM (SfhV1) 261
To paraphrase General Hux in that movie, "I don't care if Russia wins, I need the EU (and the UK) to lose. "
Posted by: runner at August 16, 2025 10:00 AM (g47mK) 262
On the putin summit. Everyone wants instant gratification, not happening. putin is a hardliner and the z man is a grifter. Not a good combination.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at August 16, 2025 10:01 AM (2NHgQ) 263
Actor, or 'movie star' ?
Posted by: Don Black at August 16, 2025 10:01 AM (AOsQT) 264
190 Wasn't Soylent Green Edwatd G Eobinson's last movie?
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at August 16, 2025 The prime reason I still love that movie is that it contains one of the most poignant scenes in all of film history - Eddie G. Robinson’s death scene, which is a beautiful and touching type of funeral, at the end of which he is peacefully euthanized. You see, he knew that he was actually dying at the time, as did those on set with him. (He died 2 weeks after filming finished). Carlton Heston’s in that scene are real, they’re not for the character, they’re for Eddie G. And the scene is truly a heartfelt and personal goodbye from Eddie himself to his entire career, to all who loved watching him, to his life. How many men have ever been ever to stage their own funeral in such a lavish way? Soylent Green is worth watching for that one scene alone, a truly transcendent bit of film. Posted by: Tom Servo at August 16, 2025 10:02 AM (MOJY1) 265
Actor, or 'movie star' ?
== right; actor, leading man. Paul Giamatti is a very fine actor, but he is a character actor. Posted by: runner at August 16, 2025 10:03 AM (g47mK) 266
The PTB estimate that the population needed to achieve steady state sustainable levels is between 150 and 200. They've got a way to go.
Posted by: muldoon at August 16, 2025 09:24 AM (I0N4X) How did the PTB determine that these wolves would be better off in Colorado than they would be in B.C.? (Of course, I know this is Polis's partner's vanity project.) Posted by: Emmie at August 16, 2025 10:04 AM (FMtrg) 267
Putin's former KGB, which means forever KGB. His profession and training is in deception, among other disciplines.
Posted by: Don Black at August 16, 2025 10:05 AM (AOsQT) 268
Soylent Green is worth watching for that one scene alone, a truly transcendent bit of film.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 16, 2025 10:02 AM (MOJY1) ==== And he was delicious! Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 16, 2025 10:05 AM (RIvkX) 269
From what I can tell (which is not much admittedly) the Putin summit was a bit of a bust. I think at this point Trump should wash his hands of it, impose stiff sanctions on Russia and stop aiding Ukraine and let nature take its course. Putin has the upper hand, he knows it and he’s not gonna make a deal that little megalomaniac Z will accept. It is the historic norm that to end a war one side has to win and the other has to lose
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 16, 2025 10:07 AM (c99AZ) 270
Matt Smith ?
Posted by: runner at August 16, 2025 10:07 AM (g47mK) 271
>From what I can tell (which is not much admittedly) the Putin summit was a bit of a bust.
--- NYPost headline was: "NYET YET" Posted by: Don Black at August 16, 2025 10:08 AM (AOsQT) 272
Who are great male actors these day? Leading man type? can't think of one.
Posted by: runner at August 16, 2025 09:57 AM (g47mK) Carl Urban is pretty good. Chris Hemsworth....and the other Chris'. And yup, Denzel (always good). Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 16, 2025 10:08 AM (g8Ew8) 273
I believe so.
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 16, 2025 09:25 AM (wVcY I believe so. Posted by: Bulg at August 16, 2025 09:26 AM (77rzZ) I believe so. Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 16, 2025 09:31 AM I believe so. Posted by: Amy Schumer at August 16, 2025 10:08 AM (0sNs1) 274
Patton Oswalt, Pedro Pascal. Manly men.
Posted by: Tim Walz at August 16, 2025 10:09 AM (PiwSw) Posted by: Marcus T at August 16, 2025 10:10 AM (7ydyJ) 276
Pedro Pascal is a great disappointment.
Posted by: runner at August 16, 2025 10:11 AM (g47mK) 277
Sometimes the Lord's answer to prayer is just "Wait" and that can be hard to do.
Starting to feel better and the medication is bringing the BP down, but very slowly. Thank you for the prayers. Posted by: TecumsehTea at August 16, 2025 09:34 AM (mZ/55) Jimmy Carter (of all people) had a great quote. "The Lord answers all prayers. Sometimes the answer is yes, sometimes it's no, and sometimes the answer is you've gotta be kidding me!". I think the answer "wait" should be in there too. Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at August 16, 2025 10:12 AM (2J/Lj) 278
I give Putin credit, at least, for the greatest player trade in sports history: The "Lord of War" arms dealer for Britney Griner. Posted by: Auspex at August 16, 2025 10:13 AM (Y8DZL) 279
Putin has the upper hand, he knows it and he’s not gonna make a deal that little megalomaniac Z will accept. It is the historic norm that to end a war one side has to win and the other has to lose
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 16, 2025 10:07 AM (c99AZ) I seem to recall that Ukraine under Z was one of the entities involved in the 2020 election theft to benefit Biden. So their interference helped bring about their invasion by Russia. I always laugh about people who vote Dem because they're anti-war. Posted by: Emmie at August 16, 2025 10:13 AM (FMtrg) Posted by: Eric Swalwell (D-CA & Cuck-CCP) at August 16, 2025 10:14 AM (0sNs1) 281
You would think that after all the successes that Trump has had in the 7 months, 7 months, that he has been in office that you all would stop being such pessimists. He has already brokered 4, 4, peace agreements with countries that have been at each other's throats for years.
Putin has been controlling Crimea since Obama was in office. Ukraine already gave that up. Europe needs Russian oil. 🤞🕊️ Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 16, 2025 10:15 AM (t/2Uw) Posted by: It's me donna at August 16, 2025 10:15 AM (VE6XX) 283
So does this mean Putin gets to choose the location of the next summit?
Kamchatka volcano crater, *probably* dormant Novaya Zemlya Submarine under the polar icecap Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 16, 2025 10:17 AM (kpS4V) 284
>>From what I can tell (which is not much admittedly) the Putin summit was a bit of a bust.
You might want to look again. Posted by: JackStraw at August 16, 2025 10:18 AM (viF8m) 285
Kudos to the Filipino Coast Guard Captain for driving the Chinese into each other. Play rough and rough things happen. And offering the losers medical assistance was a beautiful touch.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 16, 2025 09:57 AM (zG/eu) --- One of the most fascinating elements is that a naval vessel was involved. This is highly unusual. China typically uses its Coast Guard and 'maritime militia' fishing fleets to assert control. This is the first time the PLAAN has been involved, and it doesn't come off as looking very competent. You know, if you want to know more about China's military history and culture, there is a book I could recommend... Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 16, 2025 10:18 AM (ZOv7s) 286
Little-Z and Ukraine are neck deep in the ongoing corruption that infests our government.... both parties. It's to the Democrats, and Republicans benefit to keep the graft and corruption going. For one; they continue to benefit from the revenue streams. For another, they're not outed as traitors to the US.
There's likely a whole raft of issues that would befall Trump if he "just nuked all that" and let Ukraine and Russia duke it out. It's a crap shoot either way. Personally, I'd let the Republicans know what's about to go down and give them a day or two so they can "untangle" themselves from Ukraine. Or let them suffer the consequences. Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 16, 2025 10:20 AM (Q4IgG) 287
284 >>From what I can tell (which is not much admittedly) the Putin summit was a bit of a bust.
You might want to look again. Posted by: JackStraw at August 16, 2025 10:18 AM (viF8m) Exactly.. Zelenskyy released a statement saying he was briefed on the meeting and he was "confident" they can work on peace together.... Does that sound like a failure ? Posted by: It's me donna at August 16, 2025 10:20 AM (VE6XX) 288
Please spare a thought for Ella Emhoff, who's having a hard time right now:
“I feel disgust at what’s going on in the world around genocides, the loss of rights, the loss of health care, the just general fear that everyone has surrounding affordability, their lives, their livelihood, like everything,. It’s just it feels so big.” “I think everything with the environment is really f*cking getting to me. … I experienced a lot of climate anxiety, like a lot of us do. It is not funny.” Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 16, 2025 10:21 AM (0sNs1) 289
Maybe it went ok.
>>@gatewaypundit >>Obama’s Disgraced CIA Director John Brennan Follows Clinton’s Playbook — Calls for Trump to Get Nobel Peace Prize Posted by: JackStraw at August 16, 2025 10:21 AM (viF8m) 290
“I think everything with the environment is really f*cking getting to me. … I experienced a lot of climate anxiety, like a lot of us do. It is not funny.”
Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 16, 2025 10:21 AM (0sNs1) Well I'm laughing Ella Posted by: It's me donna at August 16, 2025 10:21 AM (VE6XX) 291
Good morning everyone. Hope y'all have a great weekend.
Posted by: banana Dread Pirate Summer Long Balls Dream at August 16, 2025 10:22 AM (cduTK) 292
190 Wasn't Soylent Green Edwatd G Eobinson's last movie?
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at August 16, 2025 *** It was. And he never won a standard Oscar either, despite being a star and acclaimed actor for forty years. He was voted a special Oscar after his death, I think. Some years ago I wrote a short story set in 1937 where Robinson, under his birth name, travels to his native Romania and encounters a vampire. I flatter myself that I captured the real man, as I imagine him to have been, and also his tough screen persona delivering a challenge to an anti-Semite he meets in the hotel dining room. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 16, 2025 09:32 AM (omVj0) From what I heard about the Soylent Green death scene with Robinson and Heston, Heston learned just before the scene was shot that Robinson did, in fact, have terminal cancer, and that he's probably die after the movie was shot. The tears that he shed for his long-time friend Robinson were real. Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 16, 2025 10:22 AM (FIPnm) 293
Just yesterday my doc told me I have shingles… which surprised me. This is my second case of shingles in 3 years. Surprised me because I mainly had pain in my hip/leg that felt like a pulled muscle… but the doc saw the beginnings of the characteristic rash so fortunately caught it early. I’m taking an antiviral and a prednisone med pack…. Seems to feel better already I think it’s gonna be a mild case (just like last time). But I don’t like it… I’m “29” but I’m not 89… I’m too young to have shingles twice!
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 16, 2025 10:23 AM (c99AZ) 294
How many men have ever been ever to stage their own funeral in such a lavish way?
Soylent Green is worth watching for that one scene alone, a truly transcendent bit of film. Posted by: Tom Servo at August 16, 2025 10:02 AM (MOJY1) Tom - I totally missed your comment while I was posting mine. Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 16, 2025 10:24 AM (FIPnm) 295
Whoops, typo. PLAN - Peoples Liberation Army Navy, not to be confused with the Peoples Liberation Army Air Force.
China's military is...unique. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 16, 2025 10:25 AM (ZOv7s) 296
From what I can tell (which is not much admittedly) the Putin summit was a bit of a bust. I think at this point Trump should wash his hands of it, impose stiff sanctions on Russia and stop aiding Ukraine and let nature take its course. Putin has the upper hand, he knows it and he’s not gonna make a deal that little megalomaniac Z will accept. It is the historic norm that to end a war one side has to win and the other has to lose
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 16, 2025 10:07 AM (c99AZ) Any negotiated settlement would be preferable to the continuation of the war. At this point, Russia is in the position to state its position, and wait for the rest of the negotiators to agree. If they give up anything, it will be an act of mercy. If Trump is calling it a success, that means he's willing to stop listening to the warmongers in Europe and his own government, and recognize the reality of the situation: A negotiated settlement means fewer deaths. And that's the primary objective he should be pursuing. Posted by: BurtTC at August 16, 2025 10:27 AM (+O1VQ) 297
>>Exactly.. Zelenskyy released a statement saying he was briefed on the meeting and he was "confident" they can work on peace together.... Does that sound like a failure ?
Does anyone really believe that Trump flew all the way to Alaska and put on that elaborate show if he didn't already have the bones of a deal worked out? Posted by: JackStraw at August 16, 2025 10:27 AM (viF8m) 298
284 >>From what I can tell (which is not much admittedly) the Putin summit was a bit of a bust.
You might want to look again. Posted by: JackStraw at August 16, 2025 10:18 AM (viF8m) Exactly.. Zelenskyy released a statement saying he was briefed on the meeting and he was "confident" they can work on peace together.... Does that sound like a failure ? Posted by: It's me donna at August 16, 2025 10:20 AM (VE6XX) I see a rick and a hard place. Putin (reasonably IMO) insists on Crimea and the Donbas; Z insists ceding territory is against the Uke constitution. How will they untie that Gordian knot? Not to mention both parties seem to want the war to continue (Z to stay in power, Putin because that is the Russian way) Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 16, 2025 10:27 AM (c99AZ) 299
I see a rick and a hard place. Putin (reasonably IMO) insists on Crimea and the Donbas; Z insists ceding territory is against the Uke constitution. How will they untie that Gordian knot? Not to mention both parties seem to want the war to continue (Z to stay in power, Putin because that is the Russian way) Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 16, 2025 10:27 AM (c99AZ) I guess we will see Posted by: It's me donna at August 16, 2025 10:28 AM (VE6XX) 300
Paul Giamatti is a very fine actor, but he is a character actor.
Oh, it gets way worse: Giamatti is not an actor. He's a Philosophy professor! They tell me he may know a little about baseball, though. Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at August 16, 2025 10:28 AM (zdLoL) 301
BTW… I don’t see a rick, I see a ROCK… darn autocorrect sigh
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 16, 2025 10:29 AM (c99AZ) 302
I've been watching a lot of European and Australian TV shows as well as more recent remakes of US stuff like Magnum. What I've found is if I don't know who the actors are in real life, it is much easier to suspend disbelief and see the character and not the actor. Currently watching a series that was on PBS mystery called Endeavor.Episodes are 90 minutes, 4 to a season. The actors ae not all beautiful, but intriguing.
Anyways... Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 16, 2025 10:30 AM (t/2Uw) 303
Paul Giamatti is a very fine actor, but he is a character actor.
I loved him in Sideways and The Illusionist Posted by: It's me donna at August 16, 2025 10:32 AM (VE6XX) 304
Oh, and not the least bit Woke. Smoking, drinking, racism, sexism in almost every episode. Sometimes mildly frowned upon. Not the smoking and drinking, only the sexism and racism.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 16, 2025 10:32 AM (t/2Uw) 305
My friends' child is in a swim meet now. Doing well.
Best part, the house I went through heck to stay in is a one minute walk to the town pool. Cross the street, 75 foot sidewalk. Pool. All events should be like this. LinusVanPelt....I hope the shingles clears up fast. That was the last vaccine I ever got or will get. Everyone have a happy day. Posted by: Posted by: Stateless - VERY GRATEFUL, BLESSED, LOVED AND HAPPY! -- - New Life Creation - 18.2% at August 16, 2025 10:32 AM (jvJvP) 306
Yeah but Tom Cruse plays 20 year Olds, might be a good thing or a unrealistic thing
Posted by: Skip at August 16, 2025 10:33 AM (+qU29) 307
@303 Sideways ! yes , I need to rewatch that one!
Posted by: runner at August 16, 2025 10:35 AM (g47mK) 308
@267 His profession and training is in deception, among other disciplines.
True, and couldn't agree more, BUT. Stand by for big but. Trump is a New York real estate developer. Putin may have met his match on this one. Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at August 16, 2025 10:35 AM (zdLoL) 309
Please spare a thought for Ella Emhoff, who's having a hard time right now:
“I feel disgust at what’s going on in the world around genocides, the loss of rights, the loss of health care, the just general fear that everyone has surrounding affordability, their lives, their livelihood, like everything,. It’s just it feels so big.” “I think everything with the environment is really f*cking getting to me. … I experienced a lot of climate anxiety, like a lot of us do. It is not funny.” --------- BWAHAHAHA!! Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 16, 2025 10:36 AM (g8Ew8) 310
I see a rick and a hard place. Putin (reasonably IMO) insists on Crimea and the Donbas; Z insists ceding territory is against the Uke constitution. How will they untie that Gordian knot? Not to mention both parties seem to want the war to continue (Z to stay in power, Putin because that is the Russian way)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 16, 2025 10:27 AM (c99AZ) Yesterday Putin told Trump if he had been President, the war never would have happened. It's not Russia that wanted this war. It was the warmongers in Washington DC who caused it. And shortly after it started Russia was at the table, with a negotiated settlement in hand, with Ukraine ready to sign it. Washington and London prevented that from happening. I really wish Americans would wake up to the fact that OUR government are the ones who perpetuate wars across the globe. Posted by: BurtTC at August 16, 2025 10:37 AM (QVzW0) 311
I see a rick and a hard place. Putin (reasonably IMO) insists on Crimea and the Donbas; Z insists ceding territory is against the Uke constitution. How will they untie that Gordian knot? Not to mention both parties seem to want the war to continue (Z to stay in power, Putin because that is the Russian way)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 16, 2025 10:27 AM (c99AZ) --- Russia has a stronger historical claim to Crimea than we do on Texas. So many of our "experts" are completely clueless about culture and history. The borders in Eastern Europe have always been drawn with pencils. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 16, 2025 10:38 AM (ZOv7s) 312
Thanks for all the prayers for the families of the children that are malnourished and dying in Gaza
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at August 16, 2025 10:39 AM (s4EGd) 313
Exactly.. Zelenskyy released a statement saying he was briefed on the meeting and he was "confident" they can work on peace together.... Does that sound like a failure ?
Does anyone really believe that Trump flew all the way to Alaska and put on that elaborate show if he didn't already have the bones of a deal worked out? Posted by: JackStraw at August 16, 2025 10:27 AM (viF8m) This is true. Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 16, 2025 10:40 AM (g8Ew8) 314
What JackStraw said.
I think there are business deals, economic deals which will benefit everyone in the region. Peace deals, trade deals have been furiously ongoing. The two key conflicts that need to be resolved, Ukraine and Gaza The Abraham accords are already in place. With Iran neutralized, the rest of the ME can pressure Gaza. This is the last domino. One way or another Trump will make it fall. Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 16, 2025 10:40 AM (t/2Uw) 315
>>I see a rick and a hard place.
I see a president who finally realizes that he has the power to control world events with trade because he has the world's cash register in his pocket and a military that if properly used can open a can of whoop ass if the message isn't clear. The Russian economy runs on Russian oil and gas. The Ukrainian economy runs on hand outs, largely from us. Trump can ruin the Russian economy and what passes for the Ukrainian economy like Master Blaster. Trump has ended 6 wars already including some that have gone on for decades. And he did it with trade. He didn't walk off that stage with his arm around Vlad because he failed. Posted by: JackStraw at August 16, 2025 10:40 AM (viF8m) 316
Call her crazy, but she's right more often than not. Laura Loomer exposed that Gazans were being flown into the US the past couple of months on hardship/medical visas. In fewer than 48 hours the State Department put a halt to it and will conduct a thorough review of the process.
Deep state gonna deep state. https://tinyurl.com/yck6tjxu Posted by: IrishEi at August 16, 2025 10:41 AM (3ImbR) 317
I really wish Americans would wake up to the fact that OUR government are the ones who perpetuate wars across the globe.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 16, 2025 10:37 AM (QVzW0) --- Not quite. We're just as likely to be the dupes as the perp, probably more likely. For a while, all you had to do was claim to be "anti-Communist" and we were happy to give you guns and cash. Now it's "democracy" or "gay rights," that offer the golden ticket. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 16, 2025 10:41 AM (ZOv7s) 318
When did we start getting trolls on the prayer thread?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 16, 2025 10:41 AM (t/2Uw) 319
Russia has a stronger historical claim to Crimea than we do on Texas.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 16, 2025 10:38 AM (ZOv7s) I agree. That’s why I see a Gordian knot. Putin will insist on Crimea (and Donbas) while Z says “my constitution forbids ceding of territory”…. There’s not a compromise available there; they can’t split the baby Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 16, 2025 10:41 AM (c99AZ) 320
Thanks for all the prayers for the families of the children that are malnourished and dying in Gaza
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at August 16, 2025 10:39 AM (s4EGd) And may all their suicide vests explode prematurely. Amen. Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 16, 2025 10:42 AM (g8Ew8) 321
Zelensky is coming to DC for US "security guarantees" concessions from Trump. And to throw a tantrum.
Posted by: runner at August 16, 2025 10:42 AM (g47mK) 322
Two kind brothers in Houston helping people out when they're not at their full time jobs. Sunny Skyz site:
https://tinyurl.com/yh7aanjp Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 16, 2025 10:42 AM (2GCMq) 323
I agree. That’s why I see a Gordian knot. Putin will insist on Crimea (and Donbas) while Z says “my constitution forbids ceding of territory”…. There’s not a compromise available there; they can’t split the baby Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 16, 2025 10:41 AM (c99AZ) --- It's a lot easier to change a document than facts on the ground. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 16, 2025 10:43 AM (ZOv7s) 324
Russia has been controlling Crimea since 2014. It is there only pathway to the sea. It is a non negotiable piece. Everyone knows this. We wouldn't be at this point if it was non negotiable.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 16, 2025 10:44 AM (t/2Uw) 325
When did we start getting trolls on the prayer thread?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 16, 2025 10:41 AM (t/2Uw) --- It's been going on for a while. Best to just ignore them, and perhaps offer a prayer that they find a real job. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 16, 2025 10:45 AM (ZOv7s) 326
Zelensky is coming to DC for US "security guarantees" concessions from Trump. And to throw a tantrum.
Posted by: runner at August 16, 2025 10:42 AM (g47mK) --- He's talking about his security. He doesn't give a damn what happens to Ukraine. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 16, 2025 10:46 AM (ZOv7s) 327
> Now it's "democracy" or "gay rights," that offer the golden ticket.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd -------- It's still "our" government doing it. Whether it be NGO's, non-profits or whatever. The US government is sanctioning it. Still. Whether that is curtailed to the point it doesn't occur anymore remains to be seen. Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 16, 2025 10:46 AM (Q4IgG) 328
Would Zelensky be permitted to SELL the territory rather than just giving it to Russia for nothing?
Posted by: Bulg at August 16, 2025 10:46 AM (77rzZ) 329
It's still "our" government doing it. Whether it be NGO's, non-profits or whatever. The US government is sanctioning it. Still. Whether that is curtailed to the point it doesn't occur anymore remains to be seen.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 16, 2025 10:46 AM (Q4IgG) Yep. Posted by: BurtTC at August 16, 2025 10:47 AM (QVzW0) 330
Zelensky is coming to DC for US "security guarantees" concessions from Trump. And to throw a tantrum.
Posted by: runner at August 16, 2025 10:42 AM (g47mK) --- He's talking about his security. He doesn't give a damn what happens to Ukraine. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 16, 2025 10:46 AM (ZOv7s) Yes. $100 billion to Little Z's personal account and it will all go away. Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 16, 2025 10:48 AM (g8Ew8) 331
Would Zelensky be permitted to SELL the territory rather than just giving it to Russia for nothing?
Posted by: Bulg at August 16, 2025 10:46 AM (77rzZ) In the end, Zelensky will do what we tell him. There's no buying or selling of anything at this point. Russia holds everything it wants. They're simply waiting for the rest of us to recognize reality. Posted by: BurtTC at August 16, 2025 10:49 AM (QVzW0) 332
Russia has been controlling Crimea since
Posted by: runner at August 16, 2025 10:49 AM (g47mK) 333
It's still "our" government doing it. Whether it be NGO's, non-profits or whatever. The US government is sanctioning it. Still. Whether that is curtailed to the point it doesn't occur anymore remains to be seen.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 16, 2025 10:46 AM (Q4IgG) --- My point is that other countries have agency. I hate reductionist theory that make the US the only independent actor in the world and everyone else is just our passive puppets. Things are a lot more complex than that. The flip side of "we cause everything" is "we can do anything," which has not worked out well for anyone but the top-tier grifters. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 16, 2025 10:49 AM (ZOv7s) 334
He's talking about his security. He doesn't give a damn what happens to Ukraine.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 16, 2025 10:46 AM (ZOv7s) THis! And they better not let his ass come here. I was surprised to learn that Norway has deported their Ukrainian refugees as ineligible. Seems that they keep the violent muslims, though. Stupid country Posted by: night lifted at August 16, 2025 10:50 AM (/YboP) 335
The more things change . . .
Mayor of New Orleans indicted on corruption charges for allegedly hiding romantic involvement with cop assigned to protect her Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at August 16, 2025 10:50 AM (L/fGl) 336
He's talking about his security. He doesn't give a damn what happens to Ukraine.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 16, 2025 10:46 AM (ZOv7s) He already has that, from the UK, France and Germany. He wants a political win. Posted by: runner at August 16, 2025 10:50 AM (g47mK) 337
Little boys baptism takes a hilarious turn. Short video. " FaithPot " site:
https://tinyurl.com/rn9ux7y5 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 16, 2025 10:50 AM (2GCMq) 338
324 Sharon, Russia also has access to the Baltic, the various Arctic seas, and the Pacific. But yes, the Black-Sea ports are ice-free and offer access to the Mediterranean.
Posted by: Bulg at August 16, 2025 10:51 AM (77rzZ) 339
Too many people here effected by cancer one way or another.
Posted by: Cow Demon at August 16, 2025 10:51 AM (vm8sq) 340
Mayor of New Orleans indicted on corruption charges for allegedly hiding romantic involvement with cop assigned to protect her
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at August 16, 2025 10:50 AM (L/fGl) ~~~~~ There's also a lot of money involved here. Posted by: IrishEi at August 16, 2025 10:51 AM (3ImbR) 341
He already has that, from the UK, France and Germany. He wants a political win.
Posted by: runner at August 16, 2025 10:50 AM (g47mK) --- I don't think he is safe anywhere in Europe, and none of those countries want him. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 16, 2025 10:52 AM (ZOv7s) 342
“I think everything with the environment is really f*cking getting to me. … I experienced a lot of climate anxiety, like a lot of us do. It is not funny.”
--------- BWAHAHAHA!! Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 16, 2025 10:36 AM (g8Ew ![]() Humor is in the eye of the beholder, Ella! Posted by: LASue at August 16, 2025 10:52 AM (lCppi) 343
Russia holds everything it wants. They're simply waiting for the rest of us to recognize reality.
Posted by: BurtTC _________ I don't think that's true. Putin wants more, I think specifically Karkhov and additional Black Sea coast. And he knows he will eventually get it if he keeps grinding away. Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at August 16, 2025 10:54 AM (XvL8K) 344
Russia already had access to the Black sea and the Med. via bases in Novorossiysk. But handing Crimea over to the UK and Germany as a result of a 2014 coup in Kiev, which most definitely meant to pave the way for removal of Russian presence in Crimea among other unpleasant things, was not going to happen.
Posted by: runner at August 16, 2025 10:55 AM (g47mK) 345
My point is that other countries have agency. I hate reductionist theory that make the US the only independent actor in the world and everyone else is just our passive puppets.
Things are a lot more complex than that. The flip side of "we cause everything" is "we can do anything," which has not worked out well for anyone but the top-tier grifters. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 16, 2025 10:49 AM (ZOv7s) Sure. In the same sense that battered wives have agency. Or hookers on the street, turning tricks and giving the money to their pimps. Everyone has agency. Sometimes I suppose, the guy with the pimp hand starts to believe he can do anything he wants. Until he can't. Posted by: BurtTC at August 16, 2025 10:56 AM (QVzW0) 346
I don't think that's true. Putin wants more, I think specifically Karkhov and additional Black Sea coast. And he knows he will eventually get it if he keeps grinding away.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at August 16, 2025 10:54 AM (XvL8K) --- Trade Transnistria and the Prussian enclave and it's a very good deal. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 16, 2025 10:56 AM (ZOv7s) 347
Good morning! Prayers said for those in need.
Posted by: Piper at August 16, 2025 10:57 AM (OoFl2) 348
I think Putin should pay for land he wants. We paid conquered Mexico in 1848. Russia can pay Ukraine.
Posted by: Bulg at August 16, 2025 10:57 AM (77rzZ) 349
Neighbor was up mowing lawn at 6 am. I think that's grounds for justifiable homicide.
Posted by: Archer at August 16, 2025 10:58 AM (IDphi) 350
Sure. In the same sense that battered wives have agency. Or hookers on the street, turning tricks and giving the money to their pimps.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 16, 2025 10:56 AM (QVzW0) --- I have no idea what point you are trying to make. The US is one actor of many, and often deceived by our allies or our leaders. I cannot accept that the US is the cause of, and the solution to, all of the world's problems. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 16, 2025 10:59 AM (ZOv7s) 351
Russia holds everything it wants. They're simply waiting for the rest of us to recognize reality.
Posted by: BurtTC _________ I don't think that's true. Putin wants more, I think specifically Karkhov and additional Black Sea coast. And he knows he will eventually get it if he keeps grinding away. Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at August 16, 2025 10:54 AM (XvL8K) In the same sense I want Sydney Sweeney to show up to my door and show me the inside of her genes. Jeans. I don't know exactly what Pootin wants, I just know that the war WILL end as soon as "our" side recognizes that he's not going to give up on his basic demands. Which I believe does not include ANY territory he's not currently holding. Posted by: BurtTC at August 16, 2025 10:59 AM (MyqLb) 352
I think Putin should pay for land he wants. We paid conquered Mexico in 1848. Russia can pay Ukraine.
Posted by: Bulg at August 16, 2025 10:57 AM (77rzZ) I thought that the post Alaska summit they were going to announce that. Putin pays for remaining pieces of the 4 regions with money he gets from removal of sanctions. Posted by: runner at August 16, 2025 10:59 AM (g47mK) 353
A negotiated settlement means fewer deaths. And that's the primary objective he should be pursuing.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 16, 2025 10:27 AM (+O1VQ Why? I don't particularly how many people get killed in a pissing match between their Slavic hellhole gang leaders. I don't like that it's happening, but it also doesn't matter to me if it does. The extent of my interest is that *my* country gets out of this stupid gang war we have no business being a part of. Neither country is an ally of the US, and we only stand to lose through our continued involvement in this gruesome spectacle. The objective he should be pursuing is an end to our involvement, and nothing else. If no favorable outcome can be achieved for Ukraine, then fine. Whatever. Withdraw support, put some symbolic sanctions on Russia, and walk away. Let them have Ukraine. Do. Not. Care. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 16, 2025 10:59 AM (BI5O2) 354
If Trump is calling it a success, that means he's willing to stop listening to the warmongers in Europe and his own government, and recognize the reality of the situation: A negotiated settlement means fewer deaths. And that's the primary objective he should be pursuing. Posted by: BurtTC at August 16, 2025 10:27 AM (+O1VQ) By your definition, as I am a veteran and one that believes in concepts like "peace through strength", deterrence, and a strong national defense so that we may PREVENT war, I'm a warmonger. Posted by: Cow Demon at August 16, 2025 11:00 AM (vm8sq) 355
Trade Transnistria and the Prussian enclave and it's a very good deal.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 16, 2025 10:56 AM (ZOv7s) I traded 10 large cateyes for a steel shooter once. Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 16, 2025 11:00 AM (g8Ew8) 356
Damn oil companies!
A First-Of-Its-Kind Lawsuit Seeks Wrongful Death Climate Damages From Oil Companies Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at August 16, 2025 11:00 AM (L/fGl) 357
I seem to recall reading in SF about something called the "Bethe cycle" in nuclear physics or fusion in stars, named for Hans -- or so Lumo AI tells me.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 16, 2025 09:10 AM (omVj0) Probably H. Beam Piper. The interesting thing about Piper was that he was an Analog writer, and he pulled a lot of his science from Ananlog Hans Bethe had the reputation of enjoying getting crossways with colleagues and random people. Posted by: Kindltot at August 16, 2025 11:00 AM (rbvCR) 358
Re: paying Mexico for the land; the US made that amount back 100 times over in less than 5 years, from the California gold strike.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 16, 2025 11:01 AM (MOJY1) 359
I don't know exactly what Pootin wants, I just know that the war WILL end as soon as "our" side recognizes that he's not going to give up on his basic demands.
Which I believe does not include ANY territory he's not currently holding. Posted by: BurtTC at August 16 ______ If it doesn't include any of the territory he's not currently holding, then why aren't the Russians sitting purely on the defensive? Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at August 16, 2025 11:01 AM (XvL8K) 360
I have no idea what point you are trying to make.
The US is one actor of many, and often deceived by our allies or our leaders. I cannot accept that the US is the cause of, and the solution to, all of the world's problems. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 16, 2025 10:59 AM (ZOv7s) I understand you don't get it. Drop the word "all" from your sentence, because that's what's holding you back. Posted by: BurtTC at August 16, 2025 11:01 AM (MyqLb) 361
I think we're way overdue for another round of fake "_______ is redefining masculinity." And this time, I think it will be newscum. Posted by: Soothsayer at August 16, 2025 11:02 AM (EppBK) 362
If it doesn't include any of the territory he's not currently holding, then why aren't the Russians sitting purely on the defensive?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at August 16, 2025 11:01 AM (XvL8K) Because we're not. Posted by: BurtTC at August 16, 2025 11:02 AM (MyqLb) 363
I think Putin should pay for land he wants. We paid conquered Mexico in 1848. Russia can pay Ukraine.
Posted by: Bulg at August 16, 2025 10:57 AM (77rzZ) --- The internal divisions within the Soviet Union were never expected to be external boundaries, and in fact were drawn in such a way as to guarantee conflict, which they have done admirably. It is entirely rational to rectify them based on demography and geography, and there is quite the irony that the US gov't considers these boundaries sacrosanct but had no problem carving up Serbia - a fact very much present in Russian thinking. All US policy in the las 30 years can be summed up as: "It's okay when WE do it." Trump is the only actual realist (in the true term) since Reagan. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 16, 2025 11:02 AM (ZOv7s) 364
They should trade Derbyshire and Herefordshire for Pokrovsk !
Posted by: runner at August 16, 2025 11:02 AM (g47mK) 365
Be advised, we have zips in the wire (Platoon)
Don't these people ever give up? (Apocalypse Now) Posted by: Don Black at August 16, 2025 11:03 AM (AOsQT) 366
Drop the word "all" from your sentence, because that's what's holding you back.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 16, 2025 11:01 AM (MyqLb) --- "some" is a better substitute. Certainly not "most." Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 16, 2025 11:03 AM (ZOv7s) 367
WE HAZ A NOOD
Posted by: Skip at August 16, 2025 11:04 AM (+qU29) 368
And this time, I think it will be newscum.
Posted by: Soothsayer at August 16, 2025 11:02 AM (EppBK) --- It's funny how he thinks a straight white man can win the Democrat nomination. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 16, 2025 11:04 AM (ZOv7s) 369
By your definition, as I am a veteran and one that believes in concepts like "peace through strength", deterrence, and a strong national defense so that we may PREVENT war, I'm a warmonger.
Posted by: Cow Demon at August 16, 2025 11:00 AM (vm8sq) By my definition? No. Not mine. Posted by: BurtTC at August 16, 2025 11:04 AM (MyqLb) 370
Neighbor was up mowing lawn at 6 am. I think that's grounds for justifiable homicide.
Posted by: Archer at August 16, 2025 10:58 AM (IDphi) What kind of an idiot is mowing their lawn at 6 a.m.? Posted by: Estelle Costanza at August 16, 2025 11:05 AM (R/m4+) 371
Now that I'm here I just can't wait
To lurk, opine and bloviate. But first this cup I have to drink And read the list of prayer and think, By which time it will prob'ly be too late. Posted by: mindful webworker - shine your light upon us at August 16, 2025 11:06 AM (L05+f) 372
"Just remember your lines and don't bump into the furniture."
Posted by: no one of any consequence at August 16, 2025 11:07 AM (ZmEVT) 373
Drop the word "all" from your sentence, because that's what's holding you back.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 16, 2025 11:01 AM (MyqLb) --- "some" is a better substitute. Certainly not "most." Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 16, 2025 11:03 AM (ZOv7s) Fine. Let's reconstruct that sentence: I cannot accept that the U.S. is the cause of and the solution to SOME of the world's problems. Then we can bicker and argue over how much some is. Posted by: BurtTC at August 16, 2025 11:07 AM (MyqLb) 374
If it doesn't include any of the territory he's not currently holding, then why aren't the Russians sitting purely on the defensive?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at August 16, 2025 11:01 AM (XvL8K) Probably because they don't want to spend the foreseeable future holding a line against proxy attacks from the EU through Romania and Ukraine. They have a problem, Zelenskyyyyyyy and his minions are not capable of making and holding to an agreement, they have broken every promise they have made. The EU is not capable of making or enforcing an agreement, they have been right up on the line between proxy and active involvement. Biden and the Lindsay Grahams were actively cheering the war on. Collapsing Ukraine is one way to solve the problem of what to do about Ukraine and the EU. Another solution is to negotiate a peace, instead of a victory, but that requires something that doesn't let it all happen again in 20 years. Posted by: Kindltot at August 16, 2025 11:10 AM (rbvCR) 375
The US deep state has largely been running Ukraine since they overthrew the government in 2014. Putin is well aware of that. So is Zelensky. They didn't just pick Ukraine out of a hat. They chose this war.
The idiotic Russia collusion hoax didn't just harm Trump and his supporters, it turned Russia from a country the Obama/Biden administration said they wanted better relations with when they sent that criminal Hillary and her misspelled RESET button to make it happen into a pariah. And somehow half this country adopted Ukraine, a country most couldn't find on a map. We sent hundreds of billions of dollars to Ukraine to support this war and nobody has any idea where that money went. We were the driving force behind the war not Europe or NATO. Now we aren't. It's well passed time for the insanity to end and everyone knows it. Posted by: JackStraw at August 16, 2025 11:11 AM (viF8m) 376
past
Posted by: Don Black at August 16, 2025 11:18 AM (AOsQT) 377
It's well passed time
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