CNN Whines That Trump's Energy Secretary Is Reviewing and Possibly Correcting Previous Absurd Claims About "Global Warming"

A long time ago, a commenter or coblogger -- Dave in Texas? The Warden? Empire of Jeff? -- mused:

There must be some unknown force causing our planet to become warmer.
This hypothetical unknown force would have to be large, however -- on an order of magnitude equal to our own Sun.

The Babylon Bee echoes this 20 year old joke:

The Science (TM) is perfect and infallible. No one may question that which The Science (TM) has decreed.

(CNN) -- Energy Sec. Chris Wright said Tuesday night the Trump administration is updating the National Climate Assessments that have been previously published, which the administration recently removed from government websites.
"We're reviewing them, and we will come out with updated reports on those and with comments on those reports," Wright told CNN's Kaitlan Collins in an interview on "The Source."
Wright dismissed the past reports, saying "they weren't fair in broad-based assessments of climate change."
"When you get into departments and look at stuff that's there and you find stuff that's objectionable, you want to fix it," he said.
Energy spokesperson Andrea Woods said, "The National Climate Reports are published by NOAA, not DOE. He was not suggesting he personally would be altering past reports."
The interagency process and publication is overseen by the US Global Change Research Program, which was established by Congress.
...
The first Trump administration signed off on and released the Fourth US National Climate Assessment in 2018, although it attempted to bury the report's news by releasing it on Black Friday. The current administration has deleted all previous reports from government websites, fired the scientists working on the next iteration of the report, and recently issued a separate report compiled by five researchers that questioned the severity of climate change.
Altering or revising previously published assessments would be a significant escalation in the administration's attempts to wipe credible climate science off the record.

Eat dirt. We're not playing games with your remorseless communists any longer.

EPA head Lee Zeldin tried to explain the actual science to CNN's bubble-headed wine aunt Kasie Hunt but she didn't want to hear it.

He gives a clue to what's going on with revising previous "global warming" claims -- none of these dire predictions came to pass. Shall we let those false prophecies of doom stand forever, like religious writs, or should we look at the bad assumptions that caused them to miss the mark?

Lee Zeldin left a CNN host staring blankly for nearly two minutes on Monday as he took her apart regarding a recent proposal at the EPA. As the interview started, host Kasie Hunt dumped an attempted gotcha question on the EPA administrator, asking him if he accepts the "overwhelming scientific consensus" that greenhouse gas emissions drive "man-made climate change." That was in the context of a recent announcement that the Trump administration will revoke a 2009 endangerment finding that led to the implementation of stringent regulations.
Zeldin clearly came prepared, because he peppered Hunt with facts, and for once, a CNN host couldn't come up with a reason to interrupt a Republican.

HUNT: Do you accept the overwhelming scientific consensus that these greenhouse gas emissions are the biggest drivers of man-made climate change?
ZELDIN: Well, it's great to be on with you. First, it's worth pointing out that all eight or so images that you just posted on the screen have nothing to do with this week's announcement. What the 2009 endangerment finding had to do with was with regards to mobile sources, vehicles. This week's proposal to rescind the 2009 endangerment finding was with regards to mobile sources, vehicles. CNN has been using a lot of photos where they show smoke stacks of stationary sources like power plants. That's not what we proposed.
Now, going back to 2009, the science that they were reviewing included both optimistic to pessimistic scenarios. To reach the 2009 endangerment finding, they relied on the most pessimistic views of the science. The great news is that a lot of the pessimistic views of the science in 2009 that was being assumed ended up not panning out. Hey, that's great, we can rely on 2025 facts as opposed to 2009 bad assumptions.
Whenever you speak to any left-winger (as all CNN hosts are) about this topic, you have to understand that climate change is a religious deity to them. It doesn't matter how many decades we've gone without the worst-case predictions coming true. Climate change is a position of faith for these people, and that means they shift the data to meet their preconceived outcome. If new data arises showing climate change isn't the level of threat they claimed it to be, and thus policies should be changed, they brush that off as "denialism."

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1
Warmst!

Posted by: naturalfake at August 07, 2025 03:35 PM (iJfKG)

2 What Trump is doing is nothing short of amazing

Posted by: steevy at August 07, 2025 03:35 PM (YwEeS)

3 He is dismantling the deep state.

Posted by: steevy at August 07, 2025 03:36 PM (YwEeS)

4 Ted Danson told me that the Oceans would be dead by 1995!

Posted by: garrett at August 07, 2025 03:37 PM (L2IqH)

5 I notified the others.

Posted by: Dad of Six at August 07, 2025 03:38 PM (dy8hA)

6 There have been myriad hoaxes, scams, and fake news foisted on Americans, documented fact, too many to list, but the purposeful destruction of the energy sector ranks up there with the most egregious.

They won’t shut the fuck up and they won’t change the subject.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 07, 2025 03:38 PM (DYCNj)

7 Time Magazine also promised me an Ice Age.

I threw out ALL of my Ice Cube trays.

Now, I am thinking I might have to replace them?

At what cost?

Posted by: garrett at August 07, 2025 03:38 PM (L2IqH)

8 been a pretty mild summer this year in South America

Posted by: DanMan at August 07, 2025 03:39 PM (8uzBS)

9
Either we stop driving ICE cars in the next 35 seconds or the planet will end and all life as we know it!!!

Posted by: naturalfake at August 07, 2025 03:39 PM (iJfKG)

10 The sun.

The single, most effective source of "weather" on the planet. Cycles between "active" and "dormant" periods every decade or so.

But, yeah, let's pin this whole climate crisis on humans, who we can shame and heap guilt on so our weird phobias can make a profit and keep us from living under a bridge.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 07, 2025 03:40 PM (Q4IgG)

11 some time around 2009 the global warming mob realized that there had been no global warming for about ten years, so they starting carrying on about climate change.

kind of like how in mid 2020 it changed from 'died of covid' to 'died with covid'

Posted by: gnats local678 at August 07, 2025 03:40 PM (CWTWj)

12 100° in van nuys today. Also known as August in SoCal.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at August 07, 2025 03:40 PM (AAyv9)

13 I threw out ALL of my Ice Cube trays.

Now, I am thinking I might have to replace them?

At what cost?
Posted by: garrett at August 07, 2025 03:38 PM

It depends. Do you want the boring cube shapes or the little Titanic and iceberg shapes?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 07, 2025 03:41 PM (kgE5c)

14
uh...

well...it appears my calculations were off.

But, the World's going to end!!!

And that threat...though...uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...is unproven as of yet is sooooooodire that we must stop driving now!!!!

Posted by: naturalfake at August 07, 2025 03:41 PM (iJfKG)

15 "Do you accept the overwhelming scientific consensus that these greenhouse gas emissions are the biggest drivers of man-made climate change?"

Very odd and specific phrasing. If she -- or the staffer that wrote it -- is talking specifically about "man made" climate change (not natural climate change), then she is probably correct that greenhouse gasses are the biggest drivers. But that is meaningless because "man made" climate change is negligible at most.

Posted by: Elric "Literary Creation" Blade at August 07, 2025 03:42 PM (iFTx/)

16 The global warming chicken little scheme lasted longer than others-I’m old enough to remember the population bomb, the ozone layer, nuclear winter, and nuclear Armageddon. Strange, prescription to save the world is always the same, less freedom, more taxes. Oh, I forgot the pandemic. I wonder what’s next.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at August 07, 2025 03:42 PM (hlNLQ)

17 Well, with the Earf speeding up its spinning, the increased friction is causing this extra heat.

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 07, 2025 03:42 PM (wVcYX)

18 I vainly ask again- why do people go on CNN? I am told over and over that no one watches and that they are a dying institution. So let them fucking die. Don't prop them up, unless... It's all in the game, yo.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at August 07, 2025 03:42 PM (MZ+PY)

19 Sort of fits in with last night's story that the universe will last only another 10 billion years. Which incidentally, is when I'll be ready to payoff my credit cards.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at August 07, 2025 03:42 PM (L/fGl)

20 Always Accurate Never Right Dan Rather

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 07, 2025 03:43 PM (JvZF+)

21 334 Fresh thread above.
Posted by: Dad of Six at August 07, 2025 03:37 PM (dy8hA)

Hey look everybody . It's a Drybar Comedy Fan.

- Drybar Comedy Fan Extraordinaire

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at August 07, 2025 03:43 PM (VPPG8)

22 >> Do you want the boring cube shapes or the little Titanic and iceberg shapes?

I am thinking Dinosaurs.

Then they'll match my Chicken Nuggies.

Posted by: garrett at August 07, 2025 03:43 PM (L2IqH)

23 It was Dave in Texas, he and I had been riffing on the nuclear shiny ball not being factored in at all as a variable.

Posted by: sven at August 07, 2025 03:43 PM (XFYYr)

24 After 7 hours of installation, we have A/C! Just in time for this week's hot days, thank goodness!

So..... SUCK IT, EUROFAGS!

Posted by: pookysgirl, finally cooling off at August 07, 2025 03:43 PM (Wt5PA)

25 in 2018 greta thunderbug on twixxer said that a top scientist said if we don't decorbonize the world economy by 2023 then humanity was doomed. oddly enough she deleted that tweet last year. do i remember that correctly?

Posted by: gnats local678 at August 07, 2025 03:44 PM (CWTWj)

26 If the climate crisis clowns were serious, really believed what they spout off about, they'd be agreeable to offing themselves to save the erf.

We should encourage them to achieve that singular, selfless act as a sign unto others. Something I would surely drink to.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 07, 2025 03:44 PM (Q4IgG)

27 Climate change is a position of faith for these people

And the solution is always giving more money and power to government.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 07, 2025 03:44 PM (xTIDn)

28 My cynicism regarding predictions of doom was nurtured at a young age.

I blame the JWs.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 07, 2025 03:45 PM (JvZF+)

29 Q: Why doesn't China ever worry about global warming?

A: Because they already have a communist government.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 07, 2025 03:45 PM (i24o9)

30 There taint no doubt about what the sun can do to you.

Posted by: Josh Brolin at August 07, 2025 03:46 PM (0sNs1)

31 Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 07, 2025 03:45 PM (i24o9)

Nice.

Posted by: ... at August 07, 2025 03:46 PM (I7DM/)

32 And an ice age could be fun (aside from the famine.) Think of all the newly exposed land as the sea level lowers.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 07, 2025 03:46 PM (zZu0s)

33 Oh wow, Lee Zeldin just drives right over her propaganda and leaves it (and her) in a whiney little lump on the ground.

Great to see. Zeldin is really impressive.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 07, 2025 03:46 PM (8i1Xd)

34 Parts of Florida are underwater right now.

Posted by: fd at August 07, 2025 03:46 PM (vFG9F)

35 Don't pick on my sister, Kasie Hunt!

Posted by: Mike at August 07, 2025 03:47 PM (2sMLA)

36 Y'all done missed the last spaceship off this doomed rock.

Posted by: Marshall Applewhite at August 07, 2025 03:47 PM (wVcYX)

37 25- how do you know St. Greta the neurodivergent wasn’t right? We’re prolly all just Bruce Willisn it up in here, like Beetlejuice and just don’t know it.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at August 07, 2025 03:47 PM (hlNLQ)

38 100° in van nuys today. Also known as August in SoCal.

a crisp 97 here but no wind so it's tolerable...

Posted by: DanMan at August 07, 2025 03:47 PM (8uzBS)

39 I'll repeat it again:
There is no scientifically tested and proven "greenhouse" effect.
It is all hypothesis and computer models.

Not one single actual, real-world observation of cause and effect has confirmed any part of it.

The closest they can come is citing to ... Venus.
Which is millions of miles closer to the Sun, has a day near a year long, and has a concentration of atmospheric sulfur dioxide and carbon dioxide that are thousands of times higher than is even possible on Earth.

"Brawk! Greenhouse effect! Brawk!"

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 07, 2025 03:47 PM (gBFby)

40 When the tide goes out, parts of Florida will no longer be underwater.

Posted by: fd at August 07, 2025 03:47 PM (vFG9F)

41 So, the military shooting yesterday - were all the victims female soldiers? I see of the 5 mentioned, the 2 remaining in hospitals right now were both referred to as "she" - I mean, I know you shoot the people you think can't stop you, and I'm assuming he didn't just target women, but it's interesting I can't find a list of the names of the victims still...it's as slow as the DCA helicopter crash...

Posted by: Nova Local at August 07, 2025 03:47 PM (tOcjL)

42 I blame the JWs.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 07, 2025 03:45 PM (JvZF+)

Jewish women?

Judicial Watch?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 07, 2025 03:48 PM (zZu0s)

43 100° in van nuys today. Also known as August in SoCal.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at August 07, 2025 03:40 PM (AAyv9)

It actually has been overall cool and wet in SoCal based on my own observation.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 07, 2025 03:48 PM (8avO+)

44 Miami didn't turn out to be as big a dive as predicted.

Posted by: Joe Mama at August 07, 2025 03:48 PM (2sMLA)

45 and someone tell NASA to quit changing their old data (they change it to "produce" - fabricate - more current warming)

Tony Heller has done many videos on this, where he shows the old data, and the "upgraded" versions just change the numbers. And a lot of their "global temps" are just made up ... there were no stations, they just make up numbers. it is all quite insane/evil/corrupt.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 07, 2025 03:48 PM (vbXSk)

46 Any sane person would question the fact that the global warming crowd has missed every single prediction they have made in the last 45 years. Decade after decade they have made ridiculous claims that never come to pass but they keep at it and the rubes still "believe" them.

We are not dealing with sane people.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 07, 2025 03:48 PM (0N4FZ)

47 The global warming chicken little scheme lasted longer than others-I’m old enough to remember the population bomb, the ozone layer, nuclear winter, and nuclear Armageddon. Strange, prescription to save the world is always the same, less freedom, more taxes. Oh, I forgot the pandemic. I wonder what’s next.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at August 07, 2025 03:42 PM (hlNLQ)
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Dimethyl Sulfoxide, Laetrile, Alar

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 07, 2025 03:48 PM (JvZF+)

48 It actually has been overall cool and wet in SoCal based on my own observation.
Posted by: Oldcat

It's always Van Nuys in the Valley.

Posted by: Joe Mama at August 07, 2025 03:49 PM (2sMLA)

49 I first became suspicious when the solutions to poverty, crime, war, global warming, homelessness and hunger were all the same thing.

Posted by: ... at August 07, 2025 03:49 PM (I7DM/)

50 Pffttt fossil fuels?? That old flawed research.
COWFARTS!!! That is the cause of global warming.
-MIT freshman 2029

Hey guy we had millions of free range buffalo across the plains. Millions and millions. I saved a photos of crazy white men standing on a two story pile of buffalo skulls. Wanna see it?
-Righteous Plains Indian

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at August 07, 2025 03:49 PM (VPPG8)

51 What needs to be publicized is that NOAA has been "adjusting" past data to make it look like there's been a warming trend. Also that they are using data from temperature stations that either now sit in heat island or else no longer exist.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at August 07, 2025 03:49 PM (WvZaB)

52 Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 07, 2025 03:48 PM (zZu0s)
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Jehovah's Witnesses

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 07, 2025 03:49 PM (JvZF+)

53 AGW is just a religion at this point whose ultimate savior is transnational global communist rule by our "educated elites."

They can all go suck an array of dicks because they're stupid and gay.

Posted by: ballistic at August 07, 2025 03:50 PM (3BwY8)

54 Don’t forget DDT

Posted by: Farmer Bob at August 07, 2025 03:50 PM (hlNLQ)

55 and someone tell NASA to quit changing their old data (they change it to "produce" - fabricate - more current warming)

Tony Heller has done many videos on this, where he shows the old data, and the "upgraded" versions just change the numbers. And a lot of their "global temps" are just made up ... there were no stations, they just make up numbers. it is all quite insane/evil/corrupt.
Posted by: illiniwek at August 07, 2025 03:48 PM (vbXSk)

Raise bridge / lower water. 220/221. Whatever it takes.

Posted by: NASA Earf Scientists at August 07, 2025 03:50 PM (wVcYX)

56 I've posted numerous times that while studying Astrophysics in the late 1970s, everyone considered greenhouse gases/global warming to be a joke.

But then the funding started pouring in, and the laughter stopped as the grifting commenced.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at August 07, 2025 03:50 PM (wBaIH)

57 On a very special episode, Mythbusters "proved" the Greenhouse Effect by proving that greenhouses trapped heat.

Epic shark jump.

Posted by: ... at August 07, 2025 03:50 PM (I7DM/)

58 I fucking love Lee Zeldin holy hell he rocks

Posted by: Black Orchid at August 07, 2025 03:50 PM (Pv3Rg)

59 'Cause I'm the sun, I'm the sun
I can move, I can run
But you'll never stop me burning

Posted by: Early RJD at August 07, 2025 03:51 PM (HcoTw)

60 And an ice age could be fun (aside from the famine.) Think of all the newly exposed land as the sea level lowers.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
______

Aren't we technically still at the end of an ice age?

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at August 07, 2025 03:51 PM (Za0JE)

61 Climate change is a position of faith for these people

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 07, 2025 03:44 PM (xTIDn)

Not according to Google AI:

>>>In online discussions, the phrase "if only global warming equal to the Sun" is often used to convey the idea that if changes in the Sun's activity were the sole cause of observed global warming, it might be a simpler problem, according to The Conversation. However, scientific evidence strongly refutes this notion.

>>>While the Sun is the Earth's primary source of energy, and its output does fluctuate slightly in regular cycles (like the 11-year sunspot cycle), these fluctuations are too small to explain the rapid and significant global warming observed in recent decades. As stated by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (.gov), satellite measurements since 1978 show no net increase in the Sun's energy output during the period of the most rapid global warming. In fact, solar activity has shown a slight cooling trend since the mid-20th century, even as global temperatures have continued to rise.

Now you know the reason for the push for "AI."

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 07, 2025 03:51 PM (i24o9)

62 Declaring his intent to massively RIF all departments first was a masterstroke by Trump. Now anyone who is resistance can be fired and oh well, someone had to be cut, I guess it's just not your lucky day.

Posted by: toby928 at August 07, 2025 03:51 PM (jc0TO)

63 I prefer quote from the archives, that's the one I tell people.

If only there were some... natural explanation for falling and rising temperatures.
Such a hypothetical source of warming would have to be massive, however. On the order of magnitude of our own Sun.

-- Some ancient AoSHQ commenter whose name is now lost to history
https://ace.mu.nu/archives/357858.php

Posted by: lymond at August 07, 2025 03:51 PM (Jvjtu)

64 A: Because they already have a communist government.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder

/Pedant
Fascist. They have a fascist government. "The People" do not in fact own the means of production. The State does.
/Pedant

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 07, 2025 03:51 PM (mlg/3)

65 Hey guy we had millions of free range buffalo across the plains. Millions and millions. I saved a photos of crazy white men standing on a two story pile of buffalo skulls. Wanna see it?
-Righteous Plains Indian
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at August 07, 2025 03:49 PM (VPPG

How's your tribe's version of Prairie Crab Dip?

Posted by: Senatrix Lieawatha at August 07, 2025 03:51 PM (wVcYX)

66 Sort of fits in with last night's story that the universe will last only another 10 billion years. Which incidentally, is when I'll be ready to payoff my credit cards.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at August 07, 2025 03:42 PM (L/fGl)

They giving up on the big bang or something? Current model has no age limit. Of course they do tend to make shit up.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 07, 2025 03:51 PM (8avO+)

67 Aren't we technically still at the end of an ice age?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at August 07, 2025 03:51 PM (Za0JE)
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We are still in an ice age. We just aren't experiencing extensive glaciation.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at August 07, 2025 03:52 PM (WvZaB)

68 49 I first became suspicious when the solutions to poverty, crime, war, global warming, homelessness and hunger were all the same thing.
Posted by: ... at August 07, 2025 03:49 PM (I7DM/)

Yeah well we were just getting started.

-goofy stoopid weirdo person looking for validation for their existence otherwise would jump in an active volcano just for the headlines.

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at August 07, 2025 03:52 PM (VPPG8)

69 It's been an odd Summer here. We're getting our triple digit high temps, but not as many and nothing above 104-105. Plus, overnight lows are down around the low-mid 60's. In Summer's past it was common to be around 75 as the sun was coming up. Our Summer-blooming plants don't know what to do with themselves.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at August 07, 2025 03:52 PM (Lgotk)

70 diethylstilbestrol, thalidomide, Vioxx, Dimetapp, Percocet, Darvon

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 07, 2025 03:52 PM (JvZF+)

71 @16. Chicken Little was my first thought when they came out with global warming. The sky is falling!!! All bullshit to make money. Nothing but a con game. Don't get me wrong, I'm not. FOR pollution. That is a concern. But a con game is not an answer to the problem.

Posted by: Case at August 07, 2025 03:53 PM (NnONT)

72 re 60: we're in an interglacial period. it's like a fifty thousand year cycle

Posted by: gnats local678 at August 07, 2025 03:53 PM (CWTWj)

73 >>Raise bridge / lower water. 220/221. Whatever it takes.

Missoula County changed its definition of Flood Height in order to create a larger incidence of flooding so they could take advantage of Federal Flood Damage Payments.

It's all a scam.

Posted by: garrett at August 07, 2025 03:53 PM (L2IqH)

74 /Pedant
Fascist. They have a fascist government. "The People" do not in fact own the means of production. The State does.
/Pedant
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 07, 2025 03:51 PM (mlg/3)

That definition is for Communism. Fascist governments allow you to technically own property, but the use and disposition is controlled by the state.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 07, 2025 03:53 PM (8avO+)

75 There is a 100% direct correlation between an elected official's advocacy on climate change and the status of the delivery of basic government services.

The more they advocate for a responses to climate change, the worse they are at delivering basic government services.

If you see massive potholes in the streets of a city, it means a local government official has given a speech on climate change within the last 90 days.
And zero speechs on the potholes.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 07, 2025 03:53 PM (gBFby)

76 Sven already named it

Posted by: ... at August 07, 2025 03:53 PM (I7DM/)

77 "The closest they can come is citing to ... Venus."

and iirc, even Venus is not a Greenhouse Effect, because the sun doesn't penetrate (or not much) all the way to the ground, it is absorbed in the thick atmosphere or some such thang.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 07, 2025 03:53 PM (vbXSk)

78 43 years ago, Dan Rather confidently proclaimed that 25% of Florida would be under water by now.

I missed my chance to buy ocean front property in Orlando. (kicks dirt, walks away sadly)

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at August 07, 2025 03:54 PM (sAmhv)

79 The Global Warming shit has been going on for 30 years. The entire adult lifespan of most of the believers. They have seen with their own eyes that everything remains more or less the same. And yet they can't let go.

Posted by: toby928 at August 07, 2025 03:54 PM (jc0TO)

80 Now you know the reason for the push for "AI."
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 07, 2025 03:51 PM (i24o9)
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GIGO

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at August 07, 2025 03:54 PM (WvZaB)

81 It's all a scam.
Posted by: garrett at August 07, 2025 03:53 PM (L2IqH)

You know what else was a scam?

Posted by: ... at August 07, 2025 03:54 PM (I7DM/)

82 This is what I voted for.

Posted by: Max Power at August 07, 2025 03:54 PM (q177U)

83 having the regional thermometers located in the middle of 1200 acres of concrete runways can't possibly impact data can it?

Posted by: DanMan at August 07, 2025 03:55 PM (8uzBS)

84 Oh they haven't given up on global ~~warming~~ er, sorry climate ~~change~~ catastrophe yet. They aren't convincing many Americans, but even the most right leaning Europeans are 100% absolutely sure its unquestioned fact. Its just part of their worldview.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 07, 2025 03:55 PM (dfIr7)

85 Damn those photographers taking seashore shots 150 years ago!

Snort.

Posted by: man at August 07, 2025 03:55 PM (tubbA)

86 Lemme tell ya fellas, it was fucking cold! Freeze yer nads right off.

Posted by: Otzi the Iceman, 3105 BC at August 07, 2025 03:55 PM (wVcYX)

87 >>>I notified the others.
Posted by: Dad of Six at August 07, 2025 03:38 PM (dy8hA)

Just a heads up, but the school called to report that seven eight nine.

Posted by: Max Power at August 07, 2025 03:56 PM (q177U)

88 AGW is just a religion at this point whose ultimate savior is transnational global communist rule by our "educated elites."

Posted by: ballistic at August 07, 2025 03:50 PM (3BwY

The millennials have been indoctrinated so thoroughly on the idea, there is no turning them back, at scale, without unpalatable solutions.

With the press for AI in everything, you can see this bigger op in progress on an even larger industrial scale.

1. Build trust in AI as the arbiter of "truth."
2. Train the AI models on your "truth."
3. Let the AI handle all the individual queries about the "truth" automatically.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 07, 2025 03:56 PM (i24o9)

89 73- kinda like how Martinsville VA tried to recategorize itself as traditional poverty-stricken Appalachia post nafta to tap those sweet federal funds when in the 80s it had the highest per capita millionaires.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at August 07, 2025 03:56 PM (hlNLQ)

90 >>You know what else was a scam?

One Hour Martinizing?

Carpet Brooms?

Posted by: garrett at August 07, 2025 03:56 PM (L2IqH)

91 Dan Rather reporting the "news" with passionate intensity of a complete imbecile.

Posted by: Blessedly free of the ravages of intelligence at August 07, 2025 03:56 PM (3Jagb)

92 communism: the state owns everything

fascism: the people own everything and the state owns the people

Posted by: gnats local678 at August 07, 2025 03:56 PM (CWTWj)

93 Don’t forget DDT

Posted by: Farmer Bob at August 07, 2025 03:50 PM

Or killer bees.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 07, 2025 03:56 PM (0N4FZ)

94 Chicken Little was my first thought when they came out with global warming. The sky is falling!!! All bullshit to make money. Nothing but a con game. Don't get me wrong, I'm not. FOR pollution. That is a concern. But a con game is not an answer to the problem.
Posted by: Case at August 07, 2025 03:53 PM (NnONT)

I'm old enough to remember that the eco disaster was a new ice age when we had 2 cold winters in a row.

I read about the days when the disaster when all birds would die due to DDT. So we banned it and malaria deaths in the tropics ballooned from close to nil to 17 million annually. But what is that to an ecologist?

Posted by: Oldcat at August 07, 2025 03:56 PM (8avO+)

95 And of course they ignore the 70's 'scientific' warnings that we were going to suffer a man made ice age .

They change their positions more than a Roman orgy.

Posted by: polynikes at August 07, 2025 03:57 PM (VofaG)

96 The more they advocate for a responses to climate change, the worse they are at delivering basic government services"

I see that you've driven around Austin, TX...

Posted by: man at August 07, 2025 03:57 PM (tubbA)

97 12 "100° in van nuys today. Also known as August in SoCal."

Yup. 99° in nearby Valencia. July was pretty mild this year.

Posted by: Trixie Hobbit sez at August 07, 2025 03:57 PM (EFi8t)

98 Don't forget thimerasol

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 07, 2025 03:57 PM (JvZF+)

99 1. Build trust in AI as the arbiter of "truth."
2. Train the AI models on your "truth."
3. Let the AI handle all the individual queries about the "truth" automatically.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 07, 2025 03:56 PM (i24o9)

Open source AI will throw a monkey wrench into that. Which is why they want it regulated and controlled.

Posted by: ... at August 07, 2025 03:57 PM (I7DM/)

100 My favorite is the "tipping point" fear mongering.

Oh? How did you determine that?
A guess, you say?

Or:
What is the "correct" temperature of the Earth?
What is the "correct" percentage of atmospheric CO2?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 07, 2025 03:58 PM (gBFby)

101 HOW DARE YOU

Posted by: Elric "Literary Creation" Blade at August 07, 2025 03:58 PM (iFTx/)

102 Miami often has serious flooding downtown, from the river south. But that is because of land subsidence.

Too many people sucking water out of the aquifer (while whining about global warming no doubt).

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 07, 2025 03:58 PM (VRA7i)

103 I strike when you least expect it.

Posted by: The Coming Ice Age Crisis at August 07, 2025 03:59 PM (jc0TO)

104 >>Climate change is a position of faith for these people

Another of my little theories:

It has been noted before that there is a "God shaped hole" in many people's lives, and they fill it with this nonsense. People call Leftism a religion. I think this is right, but not quite accurate -- it is not the faith or belief or higher power that they need, it is the ability to show superiority.

In the past, many religious people used religion and their devotion to show they were superior to others ("holier than thou.") That is what humans need - a way to distinguish themselves and show the community they are virtuous. They often need this when they don't have other forms of value (wealth, beauty, skill,...) so they rely on abstractions and arcane knowledge of religion and their adherence to it.

That is what we are seeing -- the decline in religiosity has left many losers with no way to show how valuable they are to the community, so they latch on to this invented nonsense.

This is a subtle point, but I think an important one.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at August 07, 2025 03:59 PM (78A15)

105 In addition to the Florida underwater BS, the Rather clip also presents Al Gore as just a humble representative of the people asking questions instead of the true believer zealot he really is.

And at the end of the clip the reporter positions himself so that camera angle makes it look like Manhattan is about the swallowed by the sea.

Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at August 07, 2025 03:59 PM (0bjKf)

106 I liked it better when only monks kept climate records.

I think they had less incentive to lie about them.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 07, 2025 03:59 PM (Q4IgG)

107 My grandpa was a kind, gentle man. But Cronkite and Rather were not allowed on his TV. He loathed them.

Posted by: Mikey Alpha Kilo, Got a Ton of Boring Stories at August 07, 2025 03:59 PM (0aYVJ)

108 What is the "correct" percentage of atmospheric CO2"

We'll decide that...

Posted by: Mauna Loa Observatory at August 07, 2025 03:59 PM (tubbA)

109 Oh they haven't given up on global warming er, sorry climate change catastrophe yet. They aren't convincing many Americans, but even the most right leaning Europeans are 100% absolutely sure its unquestioned fact. Its just part of their worldview.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 07, 2025 03:55 PM (dfIr7)

It seems to be a top down thing now for government grift and graft.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 07, 2025 03:59 PM (8avO+)

110 Zeldin is one of those guys that doesn't really impress you until he starts speaking. He has this dumpy, maybe a bit slow appearance on the surface....but the guy is smart, persistent (as we saw in his attempt for NY Gov), and usually thinking ahead of the curve.

Say what you will about Trump's campaign in city centers that had no chance of coming through for him such as the Bronx (set up by Zeldin). But, the campaign message wasn't even about the Bronx...it was to show a trend towards support for Trump even in the darkest blue areas. That was Zeldin's brainchild.

Posted by: Orson at August 07, 2025 03:59 PM (dIske)

111 Global Warming.
Complete and total bullsh*t.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 07, 2025 04:00 PM (W/lyH)

112 "In fact, solar activity has shown a slight cooling trend since the mid-20th century, even as global temperatures have continued to rise"

Max heat from sun in summer is June 22, but the hottest day lags ... to around Aug 7th.

Same thing with oceans warming ... Max CO2 lags around 900 years after relative "cooling" begins. CO2 almost certainly a result of warming/cooling, not a driver.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 07, 2025 04:00 PM (vbXSk)

113 I suspect Florida will be underwater any day now.

The Maldives will disappear in 5 years!

Paradise Threatened By Global Warming
Nov 25, 1990
Arthur Max
AP

"According to some estimates, unchecked emissions of carbon dioxide and other heat-trapping greenhouse gases will raise the sea level by a foot in the next 40 years - submerging much of the Maldives' 115 square miles of land."

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 07, 2025 04:00 PM (ynpvh)

114

They want to be able to keep their power in corrupting children and stupid adults. Always with a crisis.

And funny how money flows with those crises. Hilarious.

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at August 07, 2025 04:00 PM (et1vG)

115 If the climate ever stopped changing they would tell us that it's always changed and it's supposed to change and there's a big crisis now.

CLIMATE STASIS

Posted by: ... at August 07, 2025 04:00 PM (I7DM/)

116 earth gets warm
earth gets cold
rinse and repeat for a few billion years

but no it's SUVs and air conditioning that causes ut after all, accorsing to "experts"

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at August 07, 2025 04:00 PM (AiNp4)

117 The earth is on fire and I am hard.

Release my chakra! Now! Do it now! Harder! Yeah! Oh yeah!

Posted by: Al Gore at August 07, 2025 04:00 PM (9GE2E)

118 The Sun is a mass of incandescent gas
A gigantic nuclear furnace
Where Hydrogen is built into Helium
At a temperature of millions of degrees

The Sun is hot
The Sun is not
A place where we could live
But here on Earth there'd be no life
Without the light it gives

Posted by: TMBG at August 07, 2025 04:00 PM (Lgotk)

119 But then the funding started pouring in, and the laughter stopped as the grifting commenced.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at August 07, 2025 03:50 PM (wBaIH)

*noodles on how to turn the dearth of tube tops into an existential crisis for Gaia*

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 07, 2025 04:01 PM (i24o9)

120 AGW is just a religion at this point whose ultimate savior is transnational global communist rule by our "educated elites."
——-

My hypothesis has long been it is a variation on the “Morgenthau Plan” for post-war Germany. Considered the proximate cause for two (2) horrific world wars, the idea was to reduce Germany to a pastoral state, without any industry, with which it is impossible to wage modern industrial war. The Soviet Union and the Cold War put those notions to rest.

But it sort of tracks the US post war decline, not just industry, electronics, textiles and manufacturing but chemical production, pharmaceuticals, logging, mining, and of course coal, oil, gas.

Of course no nation can be “independent” but the U.S.A. is pretty close, if it weren’t for saboteurs. Isolationism is a false choice, as is “free trade” and the wonderful benefits of millions of unvetted and unassimilable foreigners who are really just “sparks of divinity”.

Cockroaches and buzzards have standing. Americans do not. The “environmental” movement has been hijacked.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 07, 2025 04:01 PM (RL+Tl)

121 And at the end of the clip the reporter positions himself so that camera angle makes it look like Manhattan is about the swallowed by the sea.
Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at August 07, 2025 03:59 PM (0bjKf)
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Is that a bad thing?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at August 07, 2025 04:01 PM (WvZaB)

122 communism: the state owns everything

fascism: the people own everything and the state owns the people
Posted by: gnats local678 at August 07, 2025 03:56 PM (CWTWj)

China is closer to fascism than communism which means fascism is just a subset of Communism. Since it was created by a radical Marxist it makes sense.

Posted by: polynikes at August 07, 2025 04:01 PM (VofaG)

123 In addition to the Florida underwater BS, the Rather clip also presents Al Gore as just a humble representative of the people asking questions instead of the ~~true believer zealot~~ Capitalist making bank on carbon credits that he really is.

Posted by: The Coming Ice Age Crisis at August 07, 2025 04:01 PM (jc0TO)

124 many religious people used religion and their devotion to show they were superior to others ("holier than thou.")

Posted by: phylacteries'r'us at August 07, 2025 04:02 PM (tubbA)

125 The millennials have been indoctrinated so thoroughly on the idea, there is no turning them back, at scale, without unpalatable solutions.

With the press for AI in everything, you can see this bigger op in progress on an even larger industrial scale.

1. Build trust in AI as the arbiter of "truth."
2. Train the AI models on your "truth."
3. Let the AI handle all the individual queries about the "truth" automatically.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder

Polling them indicates two things--a) yeah, millennials believe in global warming bullshit but b) they ain't willing to spend less than $10 bucks to fight it personally. It is more the elites that use that notion to benefit personally from govt spending.

Heck, even the anti nuke protesters back in the 70's pulled more people into the streets than global climate change bullshit.

Posted by: whig at August 07, 2025 04:02 PM (ctrM5)

126 I read about the days when the disaster when all birds would die due to DDT. So we banned it and malaria deaths in the tropics ballooned from close to nil to 17 million annually. But what is that to an ecologist?

Posted by: Oldcat at August 07, 2025 03:56 PM

That was a bonus for the eugenics crowd. They are the same people that foam at the mouth when anyone tries to restrict abortion because the vast majority of babies aborted are black babies.

Blacks would be well over 25% of the population of the United States instead of the 14% that they are if it wasn't for the fact that more black babies are aborted than are born in this country.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 07, 2025 04:02 PM (0N4FZ)

127 AI will be a powerful propaganda tool. It will corrode a lot of people's cognition down to a nub. Nice, stupid, and credulous.

But millennials proved nothing like that is even really necessary. The smartphone was enough. "Google told me it's like electric cars. Elon Musk is the Superman of Jesuses. Let's give him a bunch of your money. Oh wait now Google says Musk is the Nosferatu of Hitler's. Let's torch one of his dealerships."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 07, 2025 04:02 PM (Frm63)

128 Right now I am looking at the Golden Gate Bridge.

It was finished in 1937. The Piers were poured and finished in 1935.

That was 90 years ago.

I can see right at this moment with my own eyes, and its even more obviuous if you go to Fort Point or out on he span and look more closely at the piers, that the water-level on the piers is EXACTLY AT THE SAME PLACE IT WAS WHEN IT WAD FIRST BUILT.

In other words, first-hand evidence tell my eyes that the sea-level rise in the last 90 years has been ZERO, or so small that it cannot be observed or measured.

So excuse me when I Declare Bullshit on all the "experts" saying that sea levels are skyrocketing upward and will soon subsume all the coastlines.

Who are you gonna believe -- us or your lying eyes?

Posted by: zombie at August 07, 2025 04:02 PM (pMi6S)

129 Earth's natural state is that of an iceball.

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 07, 2025 04:02 PM (wVcYX)

130 What is the "correct" percentage of atmospheric CO2"

We'll decide that...
Posted by: Mauna Loa Observatory at August 07, 2025 03:59 PM (tubbA)

Well at some point, your body stops breathing and you die. Its .04 percent. What they don't tell you is that CO2 is consumed by animals and plants and dissolves in the ocean. There has definitely been a variation of o2 and CO2 in earth's history far bigger than they measure.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 07, 2025 04:02 PM (8avO+)

131 CO2 Science, IIRC, was the name of a site that collected actual scientific and peer-reviewed studies of the effects of increases in atmospheric CO2 on plants.
Stuff like greenhouses that doubled the amount of CO2.

Every single one found that plants:
1) grew faster and bigger
2) produced larger fruit
3) used less water

Imagine the massive gains in food production, not just from current lands but by being able to expand the arable land?
More people fed at cheaper cost.

From that, I learned we should be doing all we can, if we care about humans and the human condition, to increase the amount of CO2 in the air.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 07, 2025 04:02 PM (gBFby)

132 It’s adorable that they think any of that bullshit is credible science.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 07, 2025 04:03 PM (iLmHM)

133 Speaking of environmental concerns... more info about the judge ruling halting Alligator Alcatraz construction:

Ex Nihilo
@DeltaXR9
Misleading-On August 7, 2025, U.S. District Judge Kathleen Williams ordered a temporary halt to construction at the facility for 14 days, barring workers from adding new filling, paving, or infrastructure. This ruling was made during a hearing addressing a lawsuit by environmental groups and the Miccosukee Tribe, who argue that the facility violates environmental laws, including the National Environmental Policy Act, due to insufficient ecological reviews. The facility can continue to operate and hold detainees, but no new construction is allowed during this period while the court considers a preliminary injunction to potentially halt operations and further construction.

Posted by: olddog in mo at August 07, 2025 04:03 PM (X7zFE)

134 Nobody who believes the “oceans are rising” would invest a dime in oceanfront real estate. And yet every leftist in Hollywood has a Malibu mansion literally in the water.

The Biden’s and Obama’s both have beach houses too.

None of them really believe this shit.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at August 07, 2025 04:03 PM (AiNp4)

135 So now that the Bush Weather machine has been exposed as being a reality I have a question.
Was/Is this technology being used to create a climate crisis as opposed to stopping one?

The elite ass wipe cabal has plans the even Dan Bongino is affected by just reading about it.....

Just ask Karl Rove here
https://tinyurl.com/4xsdpy7c

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at August 07, 2025 04:03 PM (VPPG8)

136 Or killer bees.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 07, 2025

***
"The killer bees are moving north from South America."

"Our bees must be scared to death!"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 07, 2025 04:03 PM (omVj0)

137 Cockroaches and buzzards have standing. Americans do not. The “environmental” movement has been hijacked.
Posted by: Common Tater
======
All movements become a racket sooner or later and ecology is not an exception.

Posted by: whig at August 07, 2025 04:03 PM (ctrM5)

138 This is probably not news to anyone here, but isn't it odd how the "solution" to any "problem"...poverty, racism, global warming, energy shortages, health care...you name it... is ALWAYS "MOAR COMMUNISM!!!!11ty!!!!"

Communism: it's the socioeconomic equivalent of the Veg-O-Matic. It slices, dices, chops, shoots, stabs, beats, and bulldozes dirt over the mass graves.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 07, 2025 04:04 PM (qpyNK)

139 > Wind Turbine in China affects "local climate."
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SaveLBI
@saveLBIorg
·
Aug 4
BIGGER ISN'T BETTER
China's new 20MW offshore wind turbine is the largest in the world — and it's already altering the microclimate around it.
If one turbine can shift regional weather patterns, imagine dozens off our coast.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 07, 2025 04:04 PM (Q4IgG)

140 The sun meme came from an old blog with "Llama" in the name, IIRC. It used to be in the sidebar a looong time ago.

Posted by: brainy435 at August 07, 2025 04:04 PM (XPXH3)

141 When CNN whines, does it make a high pitched whistling sound??

Posted by: dantesed at August 07, 2025 04:04 PM (qm5Wv)

142 Heck, even the anti nuke protesters back in the 70's pulled more people into the streets than global climate change bullshit.

Posted by: whig at August 07, 2025 04:02 PM (ctrM5)

Same smelly hippies, just a different generation.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 07, 2025 04:04 PM (i24o9)

143 This is a subtle point, but I think an important one.
==
You don't need a legit religion to be sanctimonious. Any old club will do.

Posted by: Blessedly free of the ravages of intelligence at August 07, 2025 04:04 PM (3Jagb)

144 The sun can't be that hot. A baby lives in it.

Posted by: BruceWayne at August 07, 2025 04:05 PM (MGB5H)

145 and iirc, even Venus is not a Greenhouse Effect, because the sun doesn't penetrate (or not much) all the way to the ground, it is absorbed in the thick atmosphere or some such thang.
Posted by: illiniwek

Intense difference in height of atmosphere and pressure

Earth
Height: 62~ miles
Pressure: 13 - 15 psi

Venus
Height: 160~ miles
Pressure: 1330 psi

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 07, 2025 04:05 PM (mlg/3)

146 Don't forget climate change causes earthquakes and volcanic eruptions.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 07, 2025 04:05 PM (g8Ew8)

147 My sons are very intelligent men, but they have a blind spot regarding glowball wormening. It's odd.

Posted by: Mikey Alpha Kilo, Got a Ton of Boring Stories at August 07, 2025 04:05 PM (0aYVJ)

148 Ex Nihilo
@DeltaXR9
Misleading-On August 7, 2025, U.S. District Judge Kathleen Williams ordered a temporary halt to construction at the facility for 14 days, barring workers from adding new filling, paving, or infrastructure. This ruling was made during a hearing addressing a lawsuit by environmental groups and the Miccosukee Tribe, who argue that the facility violates environmental laws, including the National Environmental Policy Act, due to insufficient ecological reviews. The facility can continue to operate and hold detainees, but no new construction is allowed during this period while the court considers a preliminary injunction to potentially halt operations and further construction.
Posted by: olddog in mo
=====
NEPA is dead. Scotus killed it this year. So that district judge is likely to be overruled soon.

Posted by: whig at August 07, 2025 04:05 PM (ctrM5)

149 People believed it It's Science!!!!

No, it's a children's story.

And Al Gore got rich off it.

Posted by: Case at August 07, 2025 04:05 PM (NnONT)

150 CO2 makes food . I know let's get rid of CO2 . Brilliant !!

Posted by: polynikes at August 07, 2025 04:05 PM (VofaG)

151 Polling them indicates two things--a) yeah, millennials believe in global warming bullshit but b) they ain't willing to spend less than $10 bucks to fight it personally. It is more the elites that use that notion to benefit personally from govt spending.

Heck, even the anti nuke protesters back in the 70's pulled more people into the streets than global climate change bullshit.
Posted by: whig at August 07, 2025 04:02 PM (ctrM5)

I'll buy the climate change when the rich folk stop flying into resorts to discuss it, and bus in whores to service them. Well I will think about it anyhow

Posted by: Oldcat at August 07, 2025 04:05 PM (8avO+)

152 133...
Posted by: olddog in mo at August 07, 2025 04:03 PM (X7zFE)

The Miccosukee Tribe? Is Barry O a member?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 07, 2025 04:06 PM (ynpvh)

153 had a neighbor's kid get into a discussion of global warming, environment, trees, etc. We were living in Houston then. After letting him yammer on about what he was taught in school I pulled up GoogleEarth.

"you said we cut down all the trees so we need to replace them?"

The 50 year old neighborhood we were in was covered in massive trees. Went back 50 years and there were no houses, no roads to houses and zero trees.

That was life on the coastal prairie when buffalo stomped out all vegetation and only grass grew.

Posted by: DanMan at August 07, 2025 04:06 PM (8uzBS)

154
Fun fact: Chief Iron Eyes Cody was Italian.

https://tinyurl.com/mv5wd925

Posted by: Don Black at August 07, 2025 04:06 PM (AOsQT)

155 If the “environment” were well and truly a concern.

Then the border would be secured. Millions and millions of illegal aliens flooding our country place unprecedented demands on fresh water, road construction, schools, waste water treatment, electricity demand, hospitals, fire, etc etc. Urbanization, highway congestion. Pollution.

Where is the Sierra Club and Earth First! ? The Sierra Club was a biig proponent of nuclear power plant electricity generation at one time. Their $$$ donors had other ideas. Sierra Club doesn’t talk about nuclear energy any longer.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 07, 2025 04:06 PM (RL+Tl)

156 With the press for AI in everything, you can see this bigger op in progress on an even larger industrial scale.

I keep telling y'all, the destination with AI is to have it choose our representatives and design our foreign and domestic policy.

This is why a trillion will be dumped into being the top dog in AI even though we all know that there will be winnowing down to a few players in the end rounds.

Control of the world comes to the group that gets to be the "Dominion" of AI guided census, "elections" and policy.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at August 07, 2025 04:06 PM (WCaCG)

157 150 CO2 makes food . I know let's get rid of CO2 . Brilliant !!

Posted by: polynikes at August 07, 2025 04:05 PM (VofaG)

It reduces the population. Now, Eat Zee Bugz!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 07, 2025 04:06 PM (ynpvh)

158 A CBS News report by Dan Rather warns that if we don’t stop digging up ancient carbon and burning it, 25% of Florida will be underwater.

This was broadcast 43 years ago.

I suspect Florida will be underwater any day now.
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The "emergency" allows progs to sacrifice formalities as needed.

That's why they pretend that they are nice, but they don't have to be nice to us: because we would create the second Holocaust. (Because we're Nazis). And we can't have that.

It's why they can punch people they call Nazis and feel that they aren't the violent ones--because we're Nazis, and everybody knows how violent the Nazis were.

You need the "special circumstance" which throws the rules out the window.

Trump is a "existential threat to our democracy", for example. So, if they were ever found to be cheating in 2020, "it was justified".

And until they are disillusioned by the cause, it's not like they are going to look to "Nazis" for confirmation. So, as long as they are convinced of what they tell themselves, they're good.

Posted by: Axeman at August 07, 2025 04:06 PM (krQz2)

159
This hypothetical unknown force would have to be large, however -- on an order of magnitude equal to our own Sun.>

I remember(ed) this comment all this time; one of those "evergreen" quips that is never not amusing.

Kudoes!

Posted by: WryMouth at August 07, 2025 04:06 PM (E073r)

160 Same smelly hippies, just a different generation.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder
======
Yeah but that previous generation believed its own bullshit--the current one expressed faith in polling but seems curiously averse to actually living the live of scarcity and high prices it would entail.

The song is over.

Posted by: whig at August 07, 2025 04:07 PM (ctrM5)

161 There have been a few priests, claiming themselves to be scientists, who have stated that "The Science Is Settled."

A different religion has a famous quote: "If you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him." An interpretation of this isn't literal, but figurative. If you think you do know something, you're probably wrong. Clear your mind of what you think you know, and learn more.

If only those scientists had been dealt with back then, called out to the carpet and given a dressing down early on. Maybe actual environmental causes could take place, rather than performative signalling that makes everyone else worse off.

After all, if Climate was such an important thing, why isn't it working in places like Russia, China, and other countries that aren't in Western Europe or North America?

Posted by: Another Anon at August 07, 2025 04:07 PM (4h45B)

162 "In the millions of years after the dinosaurs went, the Earth was much warmer overall than it is today. But the early giant mammals and giant proto-birds were not running coal-fired plants or driving SUVs. How do you explain that, CNN?"

CNN: "Denialist!!!"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 07, 2025 04:07 PM (omVj0)

163 HAS HE ASKED FOR ANYTHING SPECIAL?

YES, THIS MORNING FOR BREAKFAST. HE REQUESTED SOMETHING CALLED WHEAT GERM, ORGANIC HONEY AND TIGER'S MILK.

[ Laughs ]

OH, YES. THOSE WERE THE CHARMED SUBSTANCES...

THAT SOME YEARS AGO WERE FELT TO CONTAIN LIFE-PRESERVING PROPERTIES.

YOU MEAN THERE WAS NO DEEP FAT ? NO STEAK OR CREAM PIE? OR HOT FUDGE ?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 07, 2025 04:07 PM (JvZF+)

164 145 and iirc, even Venus is not a Greenhouse Effect, because the sun doesn't penetrate (or not much) all the way to the ground, it is absorbed in the thick atmosphere or some such thang.
Posted by: illiniwek

Intense difference in height of atmosphere and pressure

Earth
Height: 62~ miles
Pressure: 13 - 15 psi

Venus
Height: 160~ miles
Pressure: 1330 psi

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 07, 2025 04:05 PM (mlg/3)

A mild wind velocity (something like 14 MPH) has the strength of a hurricane on Venus...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 07, 2025 04:07 PM (ynpvh)

165 This summer in San Francisco has been the coldest summer in at least 40 years, and possibly much further back. Everyone is mystified as to why. It has been in the 50s and maybe on a good day in the low 60s, since May. Shivering, chilly, foggy, Mark-Twain-quote-level cold.

But you won't see that in the national news reports. If it's hotter than average somewhere and colder than average somewhere else, the media will only tell you about the hotter than average place.

Similar, if it's warmer near the surface but actually clder at higher levels in the atmosphere (which often happens), they on; tell you that the atmosphere overall top-to-bottom is colder than average-- they'll only discus the surface level.

And on and on it goes -- the bias is unending;

Posted by: zombie at August 07, 2025 04:07 PM (pMi6S)

166 @133 Posted by: olddog in mo at August 07, 2025 04:03 PM (X7zFE)
================
appointed by Barack Obama....but you already probably knew that.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 07, 2025 04:07 PM (MgSy1)

167 But you know what really got me excited about wishing and hoping all the worst predictions of the catastrophes of global warming would come true?

The map of D.C. mostly underwater.

AYFKM! We can get rid of D.C.?

Do it lady! All of it!

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 07, 2025 04:08 PM (gBFby)

168 malaria deaths in the tropics ballooned from close to nil to 17 million annually. But what is that to an ecologist?
===
A good start.

Posted by: Rachel Carson at August 07, 2025 04:08 PM (3Jagb)

169 Where is the Sierra Club and Earth First! ? The Sierra Club was a biig proponent of nuclear power plant electricity generation at one time. Their $$$ donors had other ideas. Sierra Club doesn’t talk about nuclear energy any longer.
Posted by: Common Tater
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Sierra Club got found out about their massive foreign donations. Another grifter organization living on fumes of the 70's into oblivion soon.

Posted by: whig at August 07, 2025 04:08 PM (ctrM5)

170 "bubble headed wine aunt"

Heh.

DING! went the tip jar

Posted by: M. Gaga at August 07, 2025 04:08 PM (D7Vnf)

171 Zeldin should have just flat out said that none of this is even remotely credible science. It just computer projections where the computer is programmed to show exactly what they want.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 07, 2025 04:08 PM (iLmHM)

172 This is a subtle point, but I think an important one.
==
You don't need a legit religion to be sanctimonious. Any old club will do.

Posted by: Blessedly free of the ravages of intelligence at August 07, 2025 04:04 PM (3Jagb)
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A zealot just needs a Creed.

Posted by: Axeman at August 07, 2025 04:08 PM (krQz2)

173 My sons are very intelligent men, but they have a blind spot regarding glowball wormening. It's odd.
Posted by: Mikey Alpha Kilo, Got a Ton of Boring Stories at August 07, 2025 04:05 PM (0aYVJ)

Climate Change is very real. Man made climate change is a scam.

Assuming not your sons but all Leftists have a total lack of ability to determine cause and effect.

Posted by: polynikes at August 07, 2025 04:08 PM (VofaG)

174 I just literally had a client request something - design change - that was not possible to do

they claimed to have seen it done. cannot show me the site that does it the way they wish; I can show them 10000 examples of it being as I made it. I still know UX design.

anyway they send me a chat GPT that told me how to do it. so see??! it is possible.

except the code doesn't work

so they sent me another. and another. and another. we are on a fifth attempt and I can tell by looking it will NOT WORK

I fucking hate AI right now. I love it for image retouching/creation! love it. but for websites holy hell. I might have to just go back to making designs in photoshop and that's my final deliverable. good luck! send the PNGs to Grok!

Posted by: Black Orchid at August 07, 2025 04:09 PM (Pv3Rg)

175 100° in van nuys today. Also known as August in SoCal.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats
.....

Good thing you have little hats for sun protection.

Posted by: wth at August 07, 2025 04:09 PM (UjdFS)

176 Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at August 07, 2025 03:59 PM (78A15)

Yes but it's even simpler than that. If they admit there's a God it means they're not in control - that they're not God. Leftism is man's effort to replace God with themselves.

Posted by: ... at August 07, 2025 04:09 PM (I7DM/)

177 Wait until the next ice age hits, and we'll have to listen to these half-wit twits tell us all that they got a little overzealous in their fight against climate change, and it worked too well.

Posted by: Orson at August 07, 2025 04:09 PM (dIske)

178 It reduces the population. Now, Eat Zee Bugz!
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
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Mr. Eat Zee Bugz Klaus is likely to be eating prison food soon. He and his grifter wife apparently were living large on WEF funds but not particularly telling that to the board.

Posted by: whig at August 07, 2025 04:10 PM (ctrM5)

179 Here's how real science works:

1) you observe a phenomenon
2) you form a hypothesis that might explain said phenomenon
3) you devise careful tests to determine whether your hypothesis is fully consistent with existing measurements, and accurately predicts new measurements if variables are changed
4) if it doesn't match, you junk the hypothesis and go back to step 2

The "global warming" lunatics never bother with step 4. As someone noted above, it's a religion, not a science -- a sect of the evil cult religion called Marxism.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 07, 2025 04:10 PM (qpyNK)

180 Blacks would be well over 25% of the population of the United States instead of the 14% that they are if it wasn't for the fact that more black babies are aborted than are born in this country.
Posted by: Mister Scott

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This assumes nothing else would have changed.

It has been shown that widely available abortion leads to more babies killed, but not necessarily fewer babies born.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at August 07, 2025 04:10 PM (78A15)

181 "In the millions of years after the dinosaurs went, the Earth was much warmer overall than it is today. But the early giant mammals and giant proto-birds were not running coal-fired plants or driving SUVs. How do you explain that, CNN?"
......

Dinosaur farts.

Posted by: wth at August 07, 2025 04:10 PM (UjdFS)

182 Heh.

I followed those links and then some...

All the way back to 2009. Even *then* ace had forgotten who the originator of that quote was and was apologizing for it. Even used the phrase "weisenheimer".

Good times, good times.

Posted by: EFG at August 07, 2025 04:10 PM (Wp7J3)

183 I wish Zeldin would say he's eliminating ethanol requirements in gasoline. But he won't.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 07, 2025 04:11 PM (/U5Yz)

184 If anyone tried to do a show on past global warming predictions, not by celebrities, but by "experts", the effort to stop it from airing would be huge.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 07, 2025 04:11 PM (r/xMY)

185 171 Zeldin should have just flat out said that none of this is even remotely credible science. It just computer projections where the computer is programmed to show exactly what they want.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 07, 2025 04:08 PM (iLmHM)

He should simply ask these zealots what the ideal temperature is for the earth. Was it the right temperature during the Ice Ages? Was it the right temperature during the Medieval Warming Period? Was it the right temperature when they were growing grapes in Greenland?

Without that particular number, none of their crap science makes the least amount of sense.

Posted by: tcn in AK at August 07, 2025 04:11 PM (1Gsou)

186 Does Kasie Hunt have a brother named Mike? Also, has anybody seen him?

Posted by: Dirac_Delta at August 07, 2025 04:12 PM (4qvWZ)

187 My sons are very intelligent men, but they have a blind spot regarding glowball wormening. It's odd.
Posted by: Mikey Alpha Kilo, Got a Ton of Boring Stories at August 07, 2025 04:05 PM (0aYVJ)

tell them to turn in their car keys. Walking is good for warmening. Unless you breath too much walking. Hold their breath as long as they can.

Their have been millions of years when the world was more or less ice free, and gators lived in Alaska. And it wasn't much closer to the equator than now.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 07, 2025 04:12 PM (8avO+)

188 Yes but it's even simpler than that. If they admit there's a God it means they're not in control - that they're not God. Leftism is man's effort to replace God with themselves.

Posted by: ... at August 07, 2025 04:09 PM (I7DM/)
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I call it the "Babelic Urge".

We can compete with God. We can even do it "better"!

Pre-babel was restored with the internet. Mankind is going down.

Posted by: Axeman at August 07, 2025 04:12 PM (krQz2)

189 What happened to the coming ice age?

Posted by: In search of at August 07, 2025 04:12 PM (63Dwl)

190 This has been my coolest summer in years if not ever. Measured by the swamp cooler use. It's 1 in the afternoon and I haven't even turned it on yet. It's still 71 in the house. I've only needed the high setting once so far this year. No rain either. Which sucks.

Posted by: Reforger at August 07, 2025 04:12 PM (h5TUr)

191 anyway they send me a chat GPT that told me how to do it. so see??! it is possible.

except the code doesn't work

so they sent me another. and another. and another. we are on a fifth attempt and I can tell by looking it will NOT WORK

I fucking hate AI right now. I love it for image retouching/creation! love it. but for websites holy hell. I might have to just go back to making designs in photoshop and that's my final deliverable. good luck! send the PNGs to Grok!
Posted by: Black Orchid

I just read an article by a coder who said that AI has actually made MORE work for him, not less, because it so often delivers faulty code that it takes more hours to figure out where and why it's wrong that it would have been to just code it correctly from scratch.

Posted by: zombie at August 07, 2025 04:12 PM (pMi6S)

192 Dinosaur farts.
Posted by: wth at August 07, 2025 04:10 PM (UjdFS)

I see you have met my husband.

Posted by: tcn in AK at August 07, 2025 04:12 PM (1Gsou)

193 Lemme tell ya fellas, it was fucking cold! Freeze yer nads right off.
Posted by: Otzi the Iceman, 3105 BC at August 07, 2025 03:55 PM

Nah, brah, that was me.

Posted by: The Glacier at August 07, 2025 04:12 PM (0sNs1)

194 Nooo. Klaus/Dr Evil was not on the up and up?!

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 07, 2025 04:12 PM (zZu0s)

195 The "global warming" lunatics never bother with step 4. As someone noted above, it's a religion, not a science -- a sect of the evil cult religion called Marxism.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 07, 2025 04:10 PM (qpyNK)

Global warming is the long sought after cause for Marxism.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 07, 2025 04:12 PM (i24o9)

196 Posted by: zombie at August 07, 2025 04:07 PM (pMi6S)

I always liked the quip : The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco.

Posted by: polynikes at August 07, 2025 04:13 PM (VofaG)

197 183 I wish Zeldin would say he's eliminating ethanol requirements in gasoline. But he won't.

if it were up to him he probably would

but I think PDJT is on the ethanol side here

wants to help Big Ag probably. it's not like he's averse to Big Pharma either. American companies! he supports them

Posted by: Black Orchid at August 07, 2025 04:13 PM (Pv3Rg)

198 A zealot just needs a Creed.
Posted by: Axeman at August 07, 2025 04:08 P

He can create his own prison.

Posted by: BruceWayne at August 07, 2025 04:13 PM (MGB5H)

199 Only thing different in that 43 year old Dan Rather broadcast is that the Trade Centers are no longer there.

Posted by: Rex B at August 07, 2025 04:13 PM (+xk6Q)

200 The only way to stop climate change is to appease Gaia by throwing a Climate Change Cult true believer in a volcano, daily.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at August 07, 2025 04:13 PM (GIcqz)

201 I wish Zeldin would say he's eliminating ethanol requirements in gasoline. But he won't.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 07, 2025 04:11 PM

He can't. Congress has mandated that scam into law. It is never going away.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 07, 2025 04:13 PM (0N4FZ)

202 It has been shown that widely available abortion leads to more babies killed, but not necessarily fewer babies born.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at August 07, 2025 04:10 PM

I'm not parsing this. Isn't ever child aborted pretty much a child not born?

Posted by: The Coming Ice Age Crisis at August 07, 2025 04:14 PM (jc0TO)

203 He should simply ask these zealots what the ideal temperature is for the earth. Was it the right temperature during the Ice Ages? Was it the right temperature during the Medieval Warming Period? Was it the right temperature when they were growing grapes in Greenland?

Without that particular number, none of their crap science makes the least amount of sense.
Posted by: tcn in AK at August 07, 2025 04:11 PM (1Gsou)

The grapes were in Labrador Canada and points south not Greenland proper. But north of New England and Maine.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 07, 2025 04:14 PM (8avO+)

204 dammit

Posted by: toby928 at August 07, 2025 04:14 PM (jc0TO)

205 There is a 100% direct correlation between an elected official's advocacy on climate change and the status of the delivery of basic government services.
——-

Bingo! If they are talking about fine tuning the weather a hundred years from now, it’s a given they are completely ineffectual at governing. These are boutique Luxury Beliefs. Virtue signaling.

Throw them out of office, because they are worse than useless. Useless would actually be an improvement.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 07, 2025 04:14 PM (RL+Tl)

206 I just read an article by a coder who said that AI has actually made MORE work for him, not less, because it so often delivers faulty code that it takes more hours to figure out where and why it's wrong that it would have been to just code it correctly from scratch.

yep

lol they believe me now thank GOD

I'm sure by tomorrow morning tho they'll have new "workarounds"

Posted by: Black Orchid at August 07, 2025 04:14 PM (Pv3Rg)

207 t has been shown that widely available abortion leads to more babies killed, but not necessarily fewer babies born.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at August 07, 2025 04:10 PM

I'm not parsing this. Isn't ever child aborted pretty much a child not born?
Posted by: The Coming Ice Age Crisis at August 07, 2025 04:14 PM (jc0TO)

Their math is nearly as bad as their morals.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 07, 2025 04:14 PM (8avO+)

208 Something I ha e had skittering across my mind: if AI by and large destroys the 'live acrion' porn industry, wouldn't that be a good thing?

On the other hand, ai porn kind of creeps me out.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 07, 2025 04:14 PM (zZu0s)

209 I fucking hate AI right now. I love it for image retouching/creation! love it. but for websites holy hell. I might have to just go back to making designs in photoshop and that's my final deliverable. good luck! send the PNGs to Grok!
Posted by: Black Orchid

The problem with AI right now is that the experts find it mildly useful but that is because they know roughly or exactly the correct answer but it can serve as a memory tickler or saving on drudgery.

Non experts trust what AI tells you as fact. I notice legal errors all the time in AI summaries of cases that I know--in both inventing fake cases or citations and summarization of the reasoning in specific cases.

Right now, a problem with the AI industry is that their models go insane so they have to keep retraining them from scratch--thus the insane power and computing projections needed by the near future to advance AI models.

Eventually, you run out of data to train them especially in rare edge cases and then they just make up shit.

Posted by: whig at August 07, 2025 04:15 PM (ctrM5)

210 This has been my coolest summer in years if not ever. Measured by the swamp cooler use. It's 1 in the afternoon and I haven't even turned it on yet. It's still 71 in the house. I've only needed the high setting once so far this year. No rain either. Which sucks.

Posted by: Reforger at August 07, 2025 04:12 PM

Here in NE Texas we have only had 5 days at or above 100 degrees. We usually have had a dozen or more days above the century mark by now. This followed a very wet spring as well.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 07, 2025 04:15 PM (0N4FZ)

211 208 Something I ha e had skittering across my mind: if AI by and large destroys the 'live acrion' porn industry, wouldn't that be a good thing?

On the other hand, ai porn kind of creeps me out.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Well, might be a problem with different number of digits, breasts, peni, etc. from AI insanity. Eventually you end up in tentacle pron anime land.

Posted by: whig at August 07, 2025 04:16 PM (ctrM5)

212 Yes but it's even simpler than that. If they admit there's a God it means they're not in control - that they're not God. Leftism is man's effort to replace God with themselves.
Posted by: ...

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It can be manifold.

I am trying to show how it fits in with the evolutionary drive to show value to community. Status.

Your point is an assertion, my point is to try to put it into their own terms for explaining human emotions and actions.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at August 07, 2025 04:16 PM (78A15)

213 I think Trumps role in all this is :
Yeah well
First of all lets do real research of the problems.
Second Lets solve the problems.

We are being governed by absolute insane crazy maniacal
pin heads fueled by access to TAX DOLLARS!!!

Have an idea? Alrighty then we will just research it at the university level and create the desired outcome , advertise it on the fake news then push our agenda down your throat.
We can do that because we have meandered all the voting blocks nationwide which allows a small group to run our NWO endgame of depopulation .What you are seeing now in the Dem party ie: Jazzbo Ho Crokkett and her ilk are only asshole outsiders (prolly a Jackson Lee apprentice behinde closed doors) who heard of the sham and will be around only as a smoke screen for our get away..

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at August 07, 2025 04:16 PM (VPPG8)

214 Raise bridge / lower water. 220/221. Whatever it takes.
Posted by: NASA Earf Scientists at August 07, 2025 03:50 PM (wVcYX)

>>>>>

I am faxing over a high-five for the Mr. Mom reference.

Also, I miss Dave in Texas. Absolute gentleman.

Posted by: Jack Package at August 07, 2025 04:17 PM (/u1NK)

215 I just read an article by a coder who said that AI has actually made MORE work for him, not less, because it so often delivers faulty code that it takes more hours to figure out where and why it's wrong that it would have been to just code it correctly from scratch.

Posted by: zombie at August 07, 2025 04:12 PM (pMi6S)
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I have used AI as a "co-programmer". I described my experience on this board a couple of weeks ago.

You get two lines of "Hey! That's *exactly* what I would have typed!"

And then about every third or fourth line is "Where the HELL would you get THAT idea?!"

It will do something like this:

start = 'start';

?????!!

Posted by: Axeman at August 07, 2025 04:17 PM (krQz2)

216 I recently went to Grok and asked about the 3 body problem, as I didn't know what it was. Grok supplied me with an explanation and why it's impossible, so far as we know, to accurately model how 3 celestial bodies will interact due to the variables involved.

I believe this to be a given.

But, somehow, even though it's not possible to accurately model how three celestial bodies interact, we're supposed to believe the Science is Settled for an infinitely more complex system, the Earth?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 07, 2025 04:17 PM (tT6L1)

217 Mankind is going down.
Posted by: Axeman at August 07, 2025 04:12 PM (krQz2)

Some, more than others.

Posted by: Kamala at August 07, 2025 04:18 PM (I7DM/)

218 Is AI porn as stupid as AI dead people?

Posted by: wth at August 07, 2025 04:18 PM (v0R5T)

219 Average Arctic sea ice volume in July 2025 was 9.41 103 km3. This value is the 5th lowest on record for July. - NASA

This is horseshit.
NASA needs to be folded up and all of their infrastructure needs to be sold off for scrap. Build golf courses on the former Cape Canaveral.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 07, 2025 04:18 PM (/U5Yz)

220 Even *then* ace had forgotten who the originator of that quote was and was apologizing for it. Even used the phrase "weisenheimer".
Posted by: EFG at August 07, 2025 04:10 PM

Y'all are aware that getting designated a weisenheimer is recorded in your Permanent Record, right?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 07, 2025 04:18 PM (0sNs1)

221 "Don't forget climate change causes earthquakes and volcanic eruptions."

That "suspicious observers" guy (Ace talked about him years ago I think) says the poles flip every 24,000 years or so ... with other significant events every 12k yrs.

I believe the theory is that it is from solar "EMP's", and that there will be more and more solar events as we approach the time the mantle breaks free from the core, which I assume is how they claim the poles have flipped before.

We've got another 10-20 years, though, before the Gulf of Mexico sloshes up through the Midwest (and then back).

He's building his survivor ranch in SE Colorado ... join now for the low low fee of ?? heh ... that's the problem with "world will change in 20 years" type claims.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 07, 2025 04:18 PM (vbXSk)

222 I fucking hate AI right now. I love it for image retouching/creation! love it. but for websites holy hell. I might have to just go back to making designs in photoshop and that's my final deliverable. good luck! send the PNGs to Grok!
Posted by: Black Orchid

I just read an article by a coder who said that AI has actually made MORE work for him, not less, because it so often delivers faulty code that it takes more hours to figure out where and why it's wrong that it would have been to just code it correctly from scratch.
Posted by: zombie at August 07, 2025 04:12 PM (pMi6S)

Yep. Have a customer who has been trying to add features to a project with older source than current. So he's been sending me the projects. And the code just doesn't compile, has missing config settings, code that might be for a different version of the dev kit or just wrong.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 07, 2025 04:19 PM (8avO+)

223 Speaking of previous climate alarmist prophecies of doom not panning out: 43 years ago, Dan Rather confidently proclaimed that 25% of Florida would be under water by now.

Yes, that happened. We built more pools.

Posted by: Hercules at August 07, 2025 04:19 PM (GF8D7)

224 The climate pink Mann got slammed by the judge $1 in compensatory damage , $1m reduced to $5k on punitive. Mann was also directed to pay $477 to Steyn and another guy for attorney fees. He also had to pay Nat Rev attorney fees. Douchebag

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 07, 2025 04:19 PM (r/xMY)

225 >> Well, with the Earf speeding up its spinning

I got interested in this and have been looking at the IERS daily updates. I think the speed-up has maxed out. They predict about 90 days out, and then less accurate 1 year predictions. The current short term have slowed down from May predictions. At any rate, the mean mean solar day for 2025 is predicted to be about 10ms faster than 24 hours.

Shortest so far was 2022, which averaged 25ms shorter.

And speaking of the sun, something I didn't know is one of the longer period terms in the dance of polar motion and nutation and length of day correlates with the 11 yr solar cycle.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 07, 2025 04:20 PM (w6EFb)

226 So excuse me when I Declare Bullshit on all the "experts" saying that sea levels are skyrocketing upward and will soon subsume all the coastline
———-

Keep in mind. You aren’t supposed to necessarily believe the lies, you don’t have to. But.

it’s a Loyalty Test. Get your mind right, Comrade. Or else

Posted by: Common Tater at August 07, 2025 04:20 PM (RL+Tl)

227 202 It has been shown that widely available abortion leads to more babies killed, but not necessarily fewer babies born.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at August 07, 2025 04:10 PM

I'm not parsing this. Isn't ever child aborted pretty much a child not born?
Posted by: The Coming Ice Age Crisi

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Children born = children conceived - children murdered.

make it easier to kill and you may increase the number conceived even more.

So with easy abortion people fuck more and end up with more kids even though they kill a bunch.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at August 07, 2025 04:20 PM (78A15)

228 But, somehow, even though it's not possible to accurately model how three celestial bodies interact,
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 07, 2025 04:17 PM

Sydney Sweeney is considered a three body problem by many here.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 07, 2025 04:20 PM (0sNs1)

229 "Don't forget climate change causes earthquakes and volcanic eruptions."

That "suspicious observers" guy (Ace talked about him years ago I think) says the poles flip every 24,000 years or so ... with other significant events every 12k yrs.

I believe the theory is that it is from solar "EMP's", and that there will be more and more solar events as we approach the time the mantle breaks free from the core, which I assume is how they claim the poles have flipped before.

We've got another 10-20 years, though, before the Gulf of Mexico sloshes up through the Midwest (and then back).

He's building his survivor ranch in SE Colorado ... join now for the low low fee of ?? heh ... that's the problem with "world will change in 20 years" type claims.
Posted by: illiniwek at August 07, 2025 04:18 PM (vbXSk)

The POLES don't flip, the Polarity of the Magnetic field flips. So Alaska will still be by the north pole, but your magnet will indicate South instead of north.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 07, 2025 04:21 PM (8avO+)

230
Yep. Have a customer who has been trying to add features to a project with older source than current. So he's been sending me the projects. And the code just doesn't compile, has missing config settings, code that might be for a different version of the dev kit or just wrong.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 07, 2025 04:19 PM (8avO+)
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Heh, I wrote a small program in C++ years ago, just to see if I could. Watching the compiler choke because I missed something in the code was amusing.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 07, 2025 04:21 PM (tT6L1)

231 bob I think that makes sense tbh

it's a perceived "out" so girls don't worry too much and prob get PG more - like a LOT more. with more different guys because the old way, you got married to the first one you let knock you up.

Posted by: Black Orchid at August 07, 2025 04:21 PM (Pv3Rg)

232 *weeps bitterly but manfully at pain in feet and last day ending in Rome*

*also is just fucking exhausted*

*and full of pasta*

Posted by: TJM's phone at August 07, 2025 04:22 PM (Vmn5q)

233
Why is Ace on Central/Mountain time??

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 07, 2025 04:22 PM (ksF5f)

234 Heh, I wrote a small program in C++ years ago, just to see if I could. Watching the compiler choke because I missed something in the code was amusing.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 07, 2025 04:21 PM (tT6L1)
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It's always an afternoon of fun finding out you overwrote your stack.

Posted by: Axeman at August 07, 2025 04:22 PM (krQz2)

235 Is AI porn as stupid as AI dead people?
Posted by: wth at August 07, 2025 04:18 PM (v0R5T)
******
There are men that are paying for AI girlfriends and they are falling in love with them.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 07, 2025 04:23 PM (NpAcC)

236 Anthropogenic climate change is bullsh*t.

The earth has been much hotter and much colder well before man came on the scene.

To the extent there is any impact, it's a rounding error in natural variation.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 07, 2025 04:23 PM (CnN/c)

237 The POLES don't flip, the Polarity of the Magnetic field flips. So Alaska will still be by the north pole, but your magnet will indicate South instead of north.
Posted by: Oldcat
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Dammit, the Aussies, Kiwis, Argentina, etc. will be right side up and we will be upside down for 10-12k years if that happens.

Posted by: whig at August 07, 2025 04:23 PM (ctrM5)

238 I'm still waiting for the new Ice Age we were promised in the 1970's. Hell was really going to freeze over!

Posted by: Cheri at August 07, 2025 04:24 PM (oiNtH)

239 Heh, I wrote a small program in C++ years ago, just to see if I could. Watching the compiler choke because I missed something in the code was amusing.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 07, 2025 04:21 PM (tT6L1)

Yeah the first lesson is you have to be very precise in doing your algorithm, because it isn't going to try and guess what you mean. In college there was a compiler like that, and it was a disaster since its guesses were bad and you had 10000 errors pretty soon after due to its bad guessing.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 07, 2025 04:24 PM (8avO+)

240 It's always an afternoon of fun finding out you overwrote your stack.
Posted by: Axeman at August 07, 2025 04:22 PM (krQz2)
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Or, you learned your lesson, avoided overwriting, then realized you'd made so many revisions, and saved to so many different labels, you forgot which was the one which worked.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 07, 2025 04:24 PM (tT6L1)

241 Posted by: TJM's phone at August 07, 2025 04:22 PM

Were you able to take in a Prometheus screen dubbed in Italian?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 07, 2025 04:24 PM (0sNs1)

242 There are men that are paying for AI girlfriends and they are falling in love with them.
Posted by: redridinghood
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Until the AI girlfriend walks out on them and sues them for palimony.

Posted by: whig at August 07, 2025 04:24 PM (ctrM5)

243 The song is over

***
But . . .
The melody lingers on

Posted by: Thanatopsis at August 07, 2025 04:24 PM (GYt5+)

244 The POLES don't flip, the Polarity of the Magnetic field flips. So Alaska will still be by the north pole, but your magnet will indicate South instead of north.
Posted by: Oldcat
.......

Will my toilet drain reverse?

Posted by: wth at August 07, 2025 04:25 PM (v0R5T)

245 I recently went to Grok and asked about the 3 body problem, as I didn't know what it was. Grok supplied me with an explanation and why it's impossible, so far as we know, to accurately model how 3 celestial bodies will interact due to the variables involved.

I believe this to be a given.

But, somehow, even though it's not possible to accurately model how three celestial bodies interact, we're supposed to believe the Science is Settled for an infinitely more complex system, the Earth?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 07, 2025 04:17 PM (tT6L1)

It is the same as the Wikipedia problem. In the first instance, there is not much profit (politically or economically) to monkey with the likely most correct answer. Thus, the answer can be considered more trustworthy.

In the second instance, there is nothing by profit to be gained, and so you get a highly biased answer, which conforms to whomever's biases of those who control the platform.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 07, 2025 04:25 PM (i24o9)

246 Your point is an assertion, my point is to try to put it into their own terms for explaining human emotions and actions.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at August 07, 2025 04:16 PM (78A15)

I do a lot of asserting. Kind of my thing.

Posted by: ... at August 07, 2025 04:25 PM (I7DM/)

247 Funny that the AI response reference NASA satellite data. That same data also shows zero change in global surface temperatures.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at August 07, 2025 04:26 PM (XMwZJ)

248 I am new to this area, but I have not seen a lot of super hot days, and my office mates have mentioned this as well. Wife and I have turned the AC on maybe thrice this summer, and only for a short time.

Posted by: Mikey Alpha Kilo, Got a Ton of Boring Stories at August 07, 2025 04:26 PM (0aYVJ)

249 Y'all are aware that getting designated a weisenheimer is recorded in your Permanent Record, right?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 07, 2025 04:18 PM (0sNs1)

****
Heh.

Posted by: EFG at August 07, 2025 04:26 PM (Wp7J3)

250 Is AI porn as stupid as AI dead people?
Posted by: wth at August 07, 2025 04:18 PM (v0R5T)
******
There are men that are paying for AI girlfriends and they are falling in love with them.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 07, 2025 04:23 PM (NpAcC)

men are the romantic ones, we fall in love with anything, sportsball teams, battleships, tank types....

what is surprising is men are stopping falling in love with most women these days.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 07, 2025 04:26 PM (8avO+)

251 Until the AI girlfriend walks out on them and sues them for palimony.
Posted by: whig at August 07, 2025 04:24 PM (ctrM5)
******
Soon.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 07, 2025 04:26 PM (NpAcC)

252 231 bob I think that makes sense tbh

it's a perceived "out" so girls don't worry too much and prob get PG more - like a LOT more. with more different guys because the old way, you got married to the first one you let knock you up.
Posted by: Black Orchid

Thank you.
Exactly.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at August 07, 2025 04:27 PM (78A15)

253 I perceive that AI is two things. The first, because I've heard AI experts say that it's the main driver.

First, it is a draw for investment dollars for VCs to think they are investing in cutting edge that is going to "do so much and have so many applications in the future".

Right now, it's a loss if you don't suggest that you have some foot in the AI door. So all the IT companies are doing it.

Secondly, the government is possibly driving AI to spy on you as you tell it all sorts of personal facts about yourself.

It's like that meme about Alexa: "Hi, wiretap. You got any recipes for pancakes?"

The last is the Elites are looking for a tool they can claim makes better decisions than you do, so they can cut you out of the decision-making process. (So three)

Posted by: Axeman at August 07, 2025 04:27 PM (krQz2)

254 Riddle me this buckos!:

What is the difference between Al Roker-Soupy Sales-Bill Nye- Pee wee Herman and Neil deGrasse Tyson?

Answer: Not a damned thing!!!

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at August 07, 2025 04:27 PM (VPPG8)

255 Speaking of AI, I have to go downstairs to revive a long dead Win2K system. Finally getting around to decommissioning a bunch of old builds to be sent to recycling. But, need the data off it.

Posted by: whig at August 07, 2025 04:27 PM (ctrM5)

256 The one thing I'm pretty convinced AI is not is intelligence--at least not yet.

Posted by: Axeman at August 07, 2025 04:27 PM (krQz2)

257 If they were so sure of global warming, why did they keep changing the name? They seemed to settle on climate change. Maybe because the climate is always changing.

Posted by: Case at August 07, 2025 04:28 PM (NnONT)

258 The POLES don't flip, the Polarity of the Magnetic field flips. So Alaska will still be by the north pole, but your magnet will indicate South instead of north.
Posted by: Oldcat
.......

Will my toilet drain reverse?
Posted by: wth at August 07, 2025 04:25 PM (v0R5T)

it will be an outie instead of an inny.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 07, 2025 04:28 PM (8avO+)

259 AI Divorce Court
New on NBC

Posted by: wth at August 07, 2025 04:28 PM (v0R5T)

260 Altering or revising previously published assessments would be a significant escalation in the administration's attempts to wipe credible climate science off the record.

The irony of this statement is utterly wasted on the author.

Posted by: Climate catastrophe "science" is bullshít based at August 07, 2025 04:29 PM (KOE6H)

261 216 But, somehow, even though it's not possible to accurately model how three celestial bodies interact, we're supposed to believe the Science is Settled for an infinitely more complex system, the Earth?

assume a spherical ~~chicken~~ planet...

Posted by: just the punch line at August 07, 2025 04:29 PM (sGtp+)

262 Speaking of AI, I have to go downstairs to revive a long dead Win2K system. Finally getting around to decommissioning a bunch of old builds to be sent to recycling. But, need the data off it.
Posted by: whig at August 07, 2025 04:27 PM (ctrM5)
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You're not truly retrieving data until you fire up the Win98 Boot Disk tools.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 07, 2025 04:29 PM (tT6L1)

263 There are men that are paying for AI girlfriends and they are falling in love with them.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 07, 2025 04:23 PM (NpAcC)
---
Pig-male-lyin'.

Posted by: Axeman at August 07, 2025 04:29 PM (krQz2)

264 I do a lot of asserting. Kind of my thing.
Posted by: ... at August 07, 2025 04:25 PM

I'm more of an ass inserting kind of guy.

Posted by: Pete B. at August 07, 2025 04:29 PM (0sNs1)

265 what is surprising is men are stopping falling in love with most women these days.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 07, 2025 04:26 PM (8avO+)
*********
An AI girlfriend never ages.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 07, 2025 04:29 PM (NpAcC)

266 Hi there. Aristotle here. I was, without question, the most revered and smartest scientist in my generation.

Oh, and the Earth is the center of the universe, and life evolves from spontaneous generation, which means it come from non-living matter.

Posted by: Orson at August 07, 2025 04:29 PM (dIske)

267 233
Why is Ace on Central/Mountain time??
Posted by: Soothsayer at August 07, 2025 04:22 PM (ksF5f)

******

He was originally from New York City, right?

Well, I would guess that he has moved into a different time zone...

Or is using a VPN that has that for a location.

I honestly have no idea.

Posted by: EFG at August 07, 2025 04:29 PM (Wp7J3)

268 If they were so sure of global warming, why did they keep changing the name? They seemed to settle on climate change. Maybe because the climate is always changing.
Posted by: Case at August 07, 2025 04:28 PM (NnONT)

its climate change because it got hot when the ice age was predicted and cold when heat was predicted. Now they are always covered.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 07, 2025 04:29 PM (8avO+)

269 Two of the most gruesome "cites" by the left is when they go on about how ending leaded gasoline and increasing abortion access are really what caused crime rates to fall.

Like, so if we just kill all the retards, especially if we catch them in the womb, we'll have less crime?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 07, 2025 04:29 PM (gBFby)

270 Does Kasie Hunt have a brother named Mike? Also, has anybody seen him?

Posted by: Dirac_Delta

No. But you may want to ask Mike who cheese's hairy about it.

Posted by: BifBewalski - at August 07, 2025 04:30 PM (QcUc+)

271 >> Grok supplied me with an explanation and why it's impossible, so far as we know, to accurately model how 3 celestial bodies will interact due to the variables involved.

There is no *closed form analytic solution* to the 3 body problem. They can be numerically integrated to high precision. For example JPL's current high precision solar system ephemeris is damned accurate.

Over the long term, the solar system is chaotic. The time there around 5 - 10 million years. After that, some gravitational butterfly flapping its wings now, could do anything, including a small chance of throwing the earth out of the solar system.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 07, 2025 04:31 PM (w6EFb)

272 229 We've got another 10-20 years, though, before the Gulf of Mexico sloshes up through the Midwest (and then back).

hmmm. i'm not familiar with that one.

Posted by: anachronda at August 07, 2025 04:31 PM (sGtp+)

273 We're not playing games with your remorseless communists any longer.

Flamethrowers for everyone!

Posted by: DaveA at August 07, 2025 04:31 PM (FhXTo)

274 I think I made that sun joke comment a while back, Ace.
I feel really gay writing this, but you've asked about it a few times now. I never cared about credit, I just get a kick out of it being worth repeating.

I still use the same email if that helps with a search for old comments at all.

Posted by: Malicious Compliance at August 07, 2025 04:32 PM (OBuuS)

275 Oh, and the Earth is the center of the universe ...

----------------

Like Nostradamus, Aristotle was close but missed it by this much ... as everybody knows, the center of the universe is Barack Obama.

Posted by: ShainS at August 07, 2025 04:32 PM (D9BsV)

276 Riddle me this buckos!:

What is the difference between Al Roker-Soupy Sales-Bill Nye- Pee wee Herman and Neil deGrasse Tyson?

Answer: Not a damned thing!!!
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at August 07, 2025 04:27 PM (VPPG

By all accounts Soupy was a pretty smart guy.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 07, 2025 04:32 PM (8avO+)

277 After that, some gravitational butterfly flapping its wings now, could do anything, including a small chance of throwing the earth out of the solar system.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb)
......

They're probably sick of us anyway.

Posted by: wth at August 07, 2025 04:32 PM (v0R5T)

278 Speaking of AI, I have to go downstairs to revive a long dead Win2K system. Finally getting around to decommissioning a bunch of old builds to be sent to recycling. But, need the data off it.
Posted by: whig at August 07, 2025 04:27 PM (ctrM5)

Did you get one of those USB-SATA/IDE dongles? That's the only way to go. After that, get and use a NAS, with a backup strategy, and you never have to retrieve old data off an obsolete system again.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 07, 2025 04:32 PM (i24o9)

279
I shit you not:

fake newser kasie hunt's original twitter handle was @khunt

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 07, 2025 04:33 PM (2RXPR)

280 as everybody knows, the center of the universe is Brian Denehey.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at August 07, 2025 04:33 PM (4mUWY)

281 250 what is surprising is men are stopping falling in love with most women these days.

isaiah 3:24

Posted by: anachronda at August 07, 2025 04:33 PM (sGtp+)

282 We've got another 10-20 years, though, before the Gulf of Mexico sloshes up through the Midwest (and then back).

hmmm. i'm not familiar with that one.
Posted by: anachronda at August 07, 2025 04:31 PM (sGtp+)

Trump SAVED the South and Midwest just by RENAMING the Gulf.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 07, 2025 04:33 PM (8avO+)

283 Oh, and the Earth is the center of the universe ...
......

No, that's my ex-wife.

Posted by: wth at August 07, 2025 04:33 PM (v0R5T)

284 I think I made that sun joke comment a while back, Ace.
I feel really gay writing this, but you've asked about it a few times now. I never cared about credit, I just get a kick out of it being worth repeating.

I still use the same email if that helps with a search for old comments at all.

Posted by: Malicious Compliance at August 07, 2025 04:32 PM (OBuuS)

-----------------

Thanks -- I've used that joke several times on numerous platforms. Never gets old ...

Posted by: ShainS at August 07, 2025 04:34 PM (+/3eG)

285 I've been getting personal enjoyment out of posing questions to the AI sites that leaves them no wiggle room in providing an unconventional, truthful, and culturally racist answer.

For example: Rank various races by Intelligence quotient. Or, are all races physically the same. If not. Why? (Jimmy the Greek would have loved that answer).

Posted by: Orson at August 07, 2025 04:34 PM (dIske)

286 Nood. Lizzo.

Posted by: fd at August 07, 2025 04:34 PM (vFG9F)

287 I recently went to Grok and asked about the 3 body problem, as I didn't know what it was.

Did you also ask Grok about the 3 Seashells problem?

Posted by: olddog in mo at August 07, 2025 04:34 PM (X7zFE)

288 as everybody knows, the center of the universe is Brian Denehey.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at August 07, 2025 04:33 PM (4mUWY)
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Whose best role is still the Deathstar.

Posted by: Axeman at August 07, 2025 04:35 PM (krQz2)

289 I've been getting personal enjoyment out of posing questions to the AI sites that leaves them no wiggle room in providing an unconventional, truthful, and culturally racist answer.

For example: Rank various races by Intelligence quotient. Or, are all races physically the same. If not. Why? (Jimmy the Greek would have loved that answer).

Posted by: Orson at August 07, 2025 04:34 PM (dIske)

Have them define a woman a send the results to KBJ.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 07, 2025 04:35 PM (i24o9)

290 Throughout history, prophets have predicted the end of the world. As the date passed, they would push the "end times" out a few years. After a few failed predictions, people would get the hint that the prophet was false and fall away.

So too with the climate change religion. As predictions of the end times fail, the false prophets keep pushing the dates back and people begin to fall away from the false religion.

Posted by: Duke at August 07, 2025 04:36 PM (5spQ9)

291 I perceive that AI is two things. The first, because I've heard AI experts say that it's the main driver.

First, it is a draw for investment dollars for VCs to think they are investing in cutting edge that is going to "do so much and have so many applications in the future".

Right now, it's a loss if you don't suggest that you have some foot in the AI door. So all the IT companies are doing it.

>>>>>

It's the newest marketing buzzword that describes something that's existed for years, only shittier. First it was "The Cloud" - that's all you heard on commercials. Congrats, you've discovered the mainframe/dumb terminal system all over again.

Then it was "The Blockchain". Hooray - you've invented receipts.

Now it's "AI", which is just database queries for simpletons, only with much greater likelihood of getting the answers wrong. BI products like Sisense and Tableau have had spoken language queries for years, only without having to sift through decades of internet porn and Twilight erotic fan fiction.

Posted by: Jack Package at August 07, 2025 04:37 PM (/u1NK)

292 Pfftt I already have my AI chicks lined up in person at Hooters..
Same same they feed you bullshit for the desired emotional reaction but for the hardcore emotional dependency I can go to a strip club where beautiful naked ladies will promise me anything I want even marriage , if I stuff more cash in her panty's

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at August 07, 2025 04:37 PM (VPPG8)

293 For example: Rank various races by Intelligence quotient. Or, are all races physically the same. If not. Why? (Jimmy the Greek would have loved that answer).

Posted by: Orson at August 07, 2025 04:34 PM (dIske)

Have them define a woman a send the results to KBJ.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 07, 2025 04:35 PM (i24o9)

All races can't possibly be the same or they could not be distinguished from each other.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 07, 2025 04:37 PM (8avO+)

294 221 He's building his survivor ranch in SE Colorado ... join now for the low low fee of ?? heh ... that's the problem with "world will change in 20 years" type claims.

good luck with that. the only place safe from the solar kill shot will be ukraine.

Posted by: major ed dames, frequent guest with art bell at August 07, 2025 04:37 PM (sGtp+)

295 46 Any sane person would question the fact that the global warming crowd has missed every single prediction they have made in the last 45 years. Decade after decade they have made ridiculous claims that never come to pass but they keep at it and the rubes still "believe" them.

We are not dealing with sane people.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 07, 2025 03:48 PM (0N4FZ)

They are every bit as irrational, dogmatic and zealous as the end times loons that sprung up among evangelicals at various points in history. Maybe even moreso, since they're still going on about it despite being proven completely wrong for the past 50+ years.

Posted by: They're religious fanatics for SCIENCE™ at August 07, 2025 04:38 PM (KOE6H)

296
There are a few know analytic solutions of the 3-body problem in very specific circumstances (constraints on mass ratio and initial conditions).

On rather cool one is the "Figure 8" solution. 3 bodies of equal mass all following a closed figure 8 curve. This thing is stable to small perturbations, but the initial conditions and mass ratio constraints are so tight, it would be very unlikely for such a system to form naturally.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 07, 2025 04:39 PM (w6EFb)

297 LOL, my Hate Feed has the Independent wanting me to be outraged at the wasteful expenditure of Trump having 700 domestic flights of (illegal) immigrants a month while Dear Joe Biden only had 350 average a month.

Oh?

1) I don't recall anyone reporting on the 350 flights per month under Joe, except on the right
2) there is a huge fucking difference between 350 INTO the country and 700 flights OUT of the country.

FOAD, you limey poofers. I voted for this.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 07, 2025 04:42 PM (gBFby)

298 AI will produce the same effect as GPS and cell phones.

I can not navigate to new places or most of the time remember how to get to places I have been to without GPS.
I don't know one phone number of anyone in my contacts list
on my phone.

The access to true knowledge will suffer and we will go back to the days before the printing press when even the Bible was held by the elitist's.

Fuck the AI asshole creators and the bidet they rode in on...

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at August 07, 2025 04:42 PM (VPPG8)

299 There are a few know analytic solutions of the 3-body problem in very specific circumstances (constraints on mass ratio and initial conditions).

On rather cool one is the "Figure 8" solution. 3 bodies of equal mass all following a closed figure 8 curve. This thing is stable to small perturbations, but the initial conditions and mass ratio constraints are so tight, it would be very unlikely for such a system to form naturally.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 07, 2025 04:39 PM (w6EFb)

***

I was told there was no math involved with this blog...

Get Manix (not a cop!) and his links here *stat*!

Posted by: EFG at August 07, 2025 04:43 PM (Wp7J3)

300 Now it's "AI", which is just database queries for simpletons, only with much greater likelihood of getting the answers wrong. BI products like Sisense and Tableau have had spoken language queries for years, only without having to sift through decades of internet porn and Twilight erotic fan fiction.
Posted by: Jack Package at August 07, 2025 04:37 PM (/u1NK)

There actually IS a real AI technique. What they say it is now isn't it. But you can train a system to recognize letters, say, in certain fonts and it can recognize an A from other letters.

We were detecting the emptyness of trucks using X-ray images and finding shapes and densities inside, then grading the full vs empty of the results using trained AI. It could put its guess and the map on the picture as the trucks passed by the operator, in a second or two.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 07, 2025 04:44 PM (8avO+)

301 241 Posted by: TJM's phone at August 07, 2025 04:22 PM

Still got your wallet?

Posted by: Gypsy In Shadows At Train Station at August 07, 2025 04:44 PM (G5+As)

302 There are a few know analytic solutions of the 3-body problem in very specific circumstances (constraints on mass ratio and initial conditions).

On rather cool one is the "Figure 8" solution. 3 bodies of equal mass all following a closed figure 8 curve. This thing is stable to small perturbations, but the initial conditions and mass ratio constraints are so tight, it would be very unlikely for such a system to form naturally.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 07, 2025 04:39 PM (w6EFb)

***

I was told there was no math involved with this blog...

Get Manix (not a cop!) and his links here *stat*!
Posted by: EFG at August 07, 2025 04:43 PM (Wp7J3)

The Lagrange Points are other approximate solutions in planetary and stellar orbits.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 07, 2025 04:45 PM (8avO+)

303 >>>23 It was Dave in Texas, he and I had been riffing on the nuclear shiny ball not being factored in at all as a variable.

ah thank you.

Posted by: ace at August 07, 2025 04:46 PM (KRtlO)

304 The center of the universe is whatever pair of boobs I'm looking at at any particular moment in time.

Posted by: zombie at August 07, 2025 04:47 PM (pMi6S)

305 Throughout history, prophets have predicted the end of the world. As the date passed, they would push the "end times" out a few years. After a few failed predictions, people would get the hint that the prophet was false and fall away.

Posted by: Duke at August 07, 2025 04:36 PM (5spQ9)

Wasn't it the Millerites who got tired of the End Days not happening that they changed it to that the Second Coming already happened but it was secret?

Posted by: Oldcat at August 07, 2025 04:48 PM (8avO+)

306 Over the long term, the solar system is chaotic. The time there around 5 - 10 million years. After that, some gravitational butterfly flapping its wings now, could do anything, including a small chance of throwing the earth out of the solar system.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 07, 2025 04:31 PM (w6EFb)

Well, shit! I guess I'll have to go to the store and buy a bunch of toilet paper.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 07, 2025 04:48 PM (g8Ew8)

307 >> Well, shit! I guess I'll have to go to the store and buy a bunch of toilet paper.

IIRC, the odds of that are maybe 2% over the 4 billion years before the sun becomes a red giant. And life on earth will cease to be viable well before that. I think the limit is about 1 billion years. The sun will get too hot by then.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 07, 2025 04:51 PM (w6EFb)

308 Department of Energy doing this is fine. But they need to be focusing on building out nuke capacity. Big stuff, small modular reactors, public/private partnerships, new labs, all that good shit.

And they are moving on these things. But I don't want any distractions from that goal.

Spare only the time, money, and men you need to fight the courts on fuel extraction policies, and go crazy on nuke tech. I want the future.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 07, 2025 04:52 PM (Frm63)

309 ha ha but wait didn't multiple people including pastors cash in on end of the world predictions due to climate change in the 90's YES they surely did.
Less we forget The Goracle selling 'carbon offsets' to corporations
They even had a currency set up. Some Euro Banks were recognizing carbon currency as real currency which thank God were done away with.
Carbon offsets were where your manufacturing company was calculated as to how much emissions it released on an annual basis. The companies were mandated by I think the UN or some other international group of men with funny hats to pay millions of dollars restitution and in turn trees were planted to produce oxygen and 'offset' the carbon 'footprint' of the company.

The Dems moto If it moves Tax It!
-Ronald Reagan

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at August 07, 2025 04:53 PM (VPPG8)

310 A good SF book with an AI element is James Hogan's "The Two Faces of Tomorrow".

In a near future earth there is a growing problem with the expert systems running things being 'too smart' - on the moon a system doling out jobs to clear ridges out of the path of a mass driver decides that the quickest way is to fire the mass driver at the obstacle to blow it up, nearly killing the scout crew surveying the path.

So they go to the person developing the next gen AI to fix the problem by making something smart enough to factor all the restraints. And to see if the AI could get out of control they mount it on a space platform with the most advanced tech, and attack it to see if they can always beat it.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 07, 2025 04:58 PM (8avO+)

311 IIRC, the odds of that are maybe 2% over the 4 billion years before the sun becomes a red giant. And life on earth will cease to be viable well before that. I think the limit is about 1 billion years. The sun will get too hot by then.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 07, 2025 04:51 PM (w6EFb)

reflectors to divert sunlight should be easy enough to set up with that lead time.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 07, 2025 05:00 PM (8avO+)

312 CNN WHINE,WHINE WHINE

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at August 07, 2025 06:21 PM (wGqjj)

313 Global warming’s worst effects are always, always 30 years in the future.

Posted by: Cow Demon at August 07, 2025 08:09 PM (ZAN7R)

314 308 Department of Energy doing this is fine. But they need to be focusing on building out nuke capacity. Big stuff, small modular reactors, public/private partnerships, new labs, all that good shit.

And they are moving on these things. But I don't want any distractions from that goal.

Spare only the time, money, and men you need to fight the courts on fuel extraction policies, and go crazy on nuke tech. I want the future.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 07, 2025 04:52 PM (Frm63)

I’m in agreement, but really, do you trust the DoEnergy to do it?

It’s a relic of the 1970s. Time to bin it.

Posted by: Cow Demon at August 07, 2025 08:11 PM (ZAN7R)

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