Daily Tech News 7 August 2025

Top Story

Ron Deibert, the director of Citizen Lab, a group monitoring the intrusion of government surveillance into the private internet, has woken up confused from a fifteen-year coma and ready to fight. (Tech Crunch)
Ahead of his talk, Deibert told TechCrunch that he plans to speak about what he describes as a "descent into a kind of fusion of tech and fascism," and the role that the Big Tech platforms are playing, and "propelling forward a really frightening type of collective insecurity that isn't typically addressed by this crowd, this community, as a cybersecurity problem."
You mean like banning the country's oldest newspaper from all social networks over a factually accurate article?

No?
"I think that there comes a point at which you have to recognize that the landscape is changing around you, and the security problems you set out for yourselves are maybe trivial in light of the broader context and the insecurities that are being propelled forward in the absence of proper checks and balances and oversight, which are deteriorating," said Deibert.
What?
Deibert, who this year published his new book
Oh. So that's what this is about.

Tech News

In the future all food will be cooked in a microwave and if you can't deal with that then you need to get out of the kitchen. (Colin Cornaby)

Yeah, developers are not welcoming yesterday's comments by the GitHub CEO.

I like this summation over at Reddit:
As someone who's been using AI for work it's been great though. Before I would look up documentation and figure out how stuff works and it would take me some time. Now I can ask Claude first, get the wrong answer, then have to find the documentation to get it to work correctly. It's been great.
AI assistants are great if you already know the answer.
One of Google's corporate Salesforce instances got hack. (Bleeping Computer)

Using known social engineering techniques.
Atlassian has redesigned project management tool Trello for the modern audience. (The Register)

I've used Trello. It was awful. It's kind of impressive that everyone agrees that the new version is infinitely worse.
"People are comparing this to the worst software updates in history," the post says. "One user said, 'This is the worst UI update I've ever seen, including Windows 8.' If you're being measured against Windows 8, that should say something."
Ouch.

Musical Interlude

Disclaimer: A song about my eyes? Sounds awful.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at 04:30 AM

Comments

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1 w00t

Posted by: m at August 07, 2025 04:32 AM (aURVT)

2 Birdbath status?

Posted by: Just Wondering at August 07, 2025 04:33 AM (XQo4F)

3 BOING!

Late. Back from big grocery shop with Mrs. BD. Special guests coming tomorrow to the vacation house up north and staying through early next week.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 07, 2025 04:34 AM (NGwt8)

4 Firmly wooted.

Posted by: Pete Bog at August 07, 2025 04:35 AM (iGZ9n)

5 >>in light of the broader context and the insecurities that are being propelled forward

Like, by a kid in a beanie? With a propeller on top?

Posted by: m at August 07, 2025 04:35 AM (aURVT)

6 >>Deibert told TechCrunch that he plans to speak about ... "propelling forward a really frightening type of collective insecurity that isn't typically addressed by this crowd, this community, as a cybersecurity problem."

More propell(er)ing!

Posted by: m at August 07, 2025 04:39 AM (aURVT)

7 I have an entry for the tech thread. In local news a few days ago. One word: CHYNAH!

https://tinyurl.com/2z2m4bx4

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 07, 2025 04:40 AM (NGwt8)

8 What did the Aussies do this time?
Well, they must be thinking about breaking ties with their Chinese masters.

Japan (Mitsubishi Heavy Industries) to build 10 Mogami class Frigates for Australia.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 07, 2025 04:41 AM (PB44O)

9 It's tech-related!

propeller-head (also propeller head or propellerhead)
noun informal
a person who has an obsessive interest in computers or technology: only a few years ago, those of us using the internet were nerds and propeller-heads.

ORIGIN
1980s: probably with reference to a beanie hat with a propeller on top, popularized by science fiction enthusiasts.

Posted by: m at August 07, 2025 04:41 AM (aURVT)

10 So it seems AI assistants are as reliable as a soft-science paper published in a peer-reviewed scientific journal.

Posted by: tankdemon at August 07, 2025 04:41 AM (ezJXh)

11 Like, by a kid in a beanie? With a propeller on top?

Posted by: m at August 07, 2025 04:35 AM (aURVT)
-

My late mother OBM bought one for our oldest boy. It was so cute and super nerdy.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 07, 2025 04:42 AM (NGwt8)

12 G'mornin all y'all
10?

Posted by: OkJohn at August 07, 2025 04:42 AM (NC/it)

13 *checks compass and charts*

We're actually being propelled backward.

Posted by: Navigator on the bridge at August 07, 2025 04:43 AM (XQo4F)

14 Good morning! Well, tha lil nugget dawg is up so everybody is up. Gotta start the coffee and drag the sprinkler out on the lawn...

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 07, 2025 04:43 AM (3Ope8)

15 Moar cawfee

Posted by: OkJohn at August 07, 2025 04:43 AM (NC/it)

16 12 G'mornin all y'all
10?
Posted by: OkJohn at August 07, 2025 04:42 AM (NC/it)

Are you from NC, by any chance? (NC/it)

Posted by: m at August 07, 2025 04:43 AM (aURVT)

17 If you had Arista Stock, yesterday you got a nice bump. It was up 20 bucks.

And as far as AI goes, I really don't know what people are asking or expecting from it, but it works pretty much the way I expect it to and it has served me exceptionally well.

The only real issue is using untrained AI with small context footprints.

If you ask it something it knows nothing about, like a 19 year old intern, it will melt down and spit out gibberish.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 07, 2025 04:47 AM (XV/Pl)

18 16 12 G'mornin all y'all
10?
Posted by: OkJohn at August 07, 2025 04:42 AM (NC/it)

Are you from NC, by any chance? (NC/it)
Posted by: m at August 07, 2025 04:43 AM (aURVT)

... or maybe OK (OkJohn).

Posted by: m at August 07, 2025 04:47 AM (aURVT)

19 Pixy must be on to something:***Deibert told TechCrunch that he plans to speak about what he describes as a "descent into a kind of fusion of tech and fascism,
---
zero just put up an interesting article:

The Modern Slave
https://tinyurl.com/3nav7bnt

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 07, 2025 04:48 AM (PB44O)

20 Disclaimer: A song about my eyes? Sounds awful.

haha

Posted by: m at August 07, 2025 04:49 AM (aURVT)

21 For instance, I asked the AI to produce a report of the issues of not locking a PTP grand master clock to a GPS antenna and it's effects on time synchronization in a SMPTE 2110 Multicast system.

And you know what it spit out a wonderful report in roughly a minute.

Now I could have easily done the same thing, however, it would have taken at least a half hour, a half hour I did not have.

So, in that regard, AI saved my bacon.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 07, 2025 04:53 AM (XV/Pl)

22 "Roll you like you were dice"

Posted by: m at August 07, 2025 04:54 AM (aURVT)

23 Windows 8 $@&#$# I was a techie, my brother was not. I gave him "expert" advice on buying a new laptop. And what I chose, unknowing, was Windows 8. i ended up reimbursing him for the cost of the computer and did several expensive. favors over the years.

Posted by: JM in Illinois at August 07, 2025 04:54 AM (IrYHD)

24 .....and Deibert, viewed here in his office in his mother's attic ...

Posted by: The Hammer at August 07, 2025 04:55 AM (smrJR)

25 "If you ask it something it knows nothing about, like a 19 year old intern, it will melt down and spit out gibberish."

Wait, wut?

Posted by: Old Lady Emhoff at August 07, 2025 04:56 AM (XQo4F)

26 I asked it a question about a stock, it resourced some articles and gave me the same answers I would have gotten in twenty minutes. Surface search, no insight.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 07, 2025 04:59 AM (PB44O)

27 Reflection on Isaiah 55:8-11 and " A change in perspective":

https://tinyurl.com/2xjrxu9y

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 07, 2025 05:00 AM (2GCMq)

28 70s food photography was intended to kill your appetite apparently.

Posted by: The Hammer at August 07, 2025 05:00 AM (smrJR)

29 I expect that MPPPP might have some scoop on Bette Davis's eyes.

Posted by: m at August 07, 2025 05:00 AM (aURVT)

30 Evenin'

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at August 07, 2025 05:01 AM (NkASH)

31 G'Day everyone
Horrible night but must go on

Posted by: Skip at August 07, 2025 05:01 AM (+qU29)

32 Horrible night but must go on

Posted by: Skip at August 07, 2025 05:01 AM (+qU29)
-

Hot milk didn't do the trick?

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 07, 2025 05:02 AM (NGwt8)

33 25 "If you ask it something it knows nothing about, like a 19 year old intern, it will melt down and spit out gibberish."

Wait, wut?
Posted by: Old Lady Emhoff at August 07, 2025 04:56 AM (XQo4F)

You can't spell "Kamala Harris" without A, I.

Posted by: m at August 07, 2025 05:04 AM (aURVT)

34 @26

Here is the AI's evaluation of ANET, it looks like a good evaluation that it literally spit out in 2 seconds, you can also ask it deeper questions.

Strengths:

Exceptional earnings execution and raised 2025 guidance.

Strong AI and cloud-driven demand base.

Solid enterprise opportunity and Ethernet focus.

Broad analyst support, with many bullish price targets.

Historically consistent outperformance (20+ quarters of earnings beats) under CEO Jayshree Ullal’s leadership

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 07, 2025 05:05 AM (XV/Pl)

35 Considerations:

Valuation is elevated (~39× trailing earnings) despite recent guidance increases
StockAnalysis+14Investors+14morningstar.com+14
.

Risk factors include potential whitebox competition and tariff-related volatility, though recent performance has largely mitigated these concerns
Barron's+2MarketBeat+2
.

Analyst targets vary—some are conservative (Wall Street average ~$116), others are more buoyant ($155 from Needham)

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 07, 2025 05:05 AM (XV/Pl)

36 Verdict

Arista Networks looks like a compelling growth stock. Its strong earnings, accelerating guidance, leading positioning in AI networking, and consistent execution support a bullish outlook. If you're comfortable with semiconductor/tech valuation levels and want exposure to AI infrastructure, ANET could be a strong pick.

However, if you're more cautious about paying up for future growth or concerned about competitive or policy risks, a more measured approach might be to wait for a consolidation or pullback to improve the entry valuation.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 07, 2025 05:05 AM (XV/Pl)

37 If you google/whatever Bette Davis, some of the photos that come up are stunningly gorgeous.

Posted by: m at August 07, 2025 05:06 AM (aURVT)

38 (looks at clock)
Mornin'

Dayshift should be wondering in. Hopefully on time.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at August 07, 2025 05:08 AM (NkASH)

39 Sorry, Skip. Lack of sleep is terrible

You might try this: half a magnesium tablet ( 250 mg. They usually come in 500 at the supermarket vitamin section and you cut them in half) also, half of an advil PM . Son has also been taking something Called "Terrific zzzz" from a place called "Terry naturally" which he got at the health food store . They also have other natural sleep remedies.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 07, 2025 05:08 AM (2GCMq)

40 G'morning, all!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 07, 2025 05:09 AM (a1415)

41 How about this photo of Bette Davis?

https://archive.is/69BZr

Posted by: m at August 07, 2025 05:09 AM (aURVT)

42 Kim Carnes resides in Tennessee with her husband Dave Ellingson; they married in 1967.

For someone in showbiz, I'd call that awesome.

Posted by: JM in Illinois at August 07, 2025 05:10 AM (SJrOE)

43 Finally got our lives in order and were able to do it right, and proper.

Hotel reservations for the TxMoMe have been successfully made!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 07, 2025 05:10 AM (a1415)

44 42 Kim Carnes resides in Tennessee with her husband Dave Ellingson; they married in 1967.

For someone in showbiz, I'd call that awesome.
Posted by: JM in Illinois at August 07, 2025 05:10 AM (SJrOE)

Nashville!

Posted by: m at August 07, 2025 05:11 AM (aURVT)

45 19 Bible verses for encouragement and strength:

https://tinyurl.com/2e27cys4

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 07, 2025 05:11 AM (2GCMq)

46 37 If you google/whatever Bette Davis, some of the photos that come up are stunningly gorgeous.
Posted by: m

###

You're welcome.

Posted by: L'Oreal at August 07, 2025 05:11 AM (XQo4F)

47
g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 07, 2025 05:11 AM (tljrc)

48 32 Horrible night but must go on

Posted by: Skip at August 07, 2025 05:01 AM (+qU29)
-

Hot milk didn't do the trick?
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 07, 2025 05:02 AM (NGwt

Maybe warm, not hot.

Posted by: m at August 07, 2025 05:13 AM (aURVT)

49 Original song by Christian musician:

Too blessed to be depressed. From "Faithpot" site:

https://tinyurl.com/5abr6cpv

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 07, 2025 05:14 AM (2GCMq)

50 50

Posted by: m at August 07, 2025 05:14 AM (aURVT)

51 Going to pass on the morning walk today.

Need to hit the yard with the mower and trimmer as soon as I can this morning, before the ten days of rainy weather hit later this afternoon.
Plus an oil and transmission fluid change, upper motor mount swap and a cabin air filter replacement need to get done by yours truly today.

All before we leave for dinner reservations at 4:45.

So today is gonna give me all the exercise I need without the walk.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 07, 2025 05:14 AM (a1415)

52 Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 07, 2025 05:05 AM (XV/Pl)

Let's not tout stocks on this blog....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at August 07, 2025 05:16 AM (L5An7)

53 7 I have an entry for the tech thread. In local news a few days ago. One word: CHYNAH!

https://tinyurl.com/2z2m4bx4
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 07, 2025 04:40 AM (NGwt8

----
Now if Trump could keep CHYNA from buying farmland next to military installations..

Posted by: JM in Illinois at August 07, 2025 05:19 AM (q/UWX)

54
Let's not tout stocks on this blog....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at August 07, 2025 05:16 AM

yeah, we should stick to medical advice

you can't slap a hot iron on stocks

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 07, 2025 05:20 AM (tljrc)

55 "yeah, we should stick to medical advice"

Do we no longer do relationship advice?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 07, 2025 05:21 AM (a1415)

56 I probably won't be around later except maybe for the art thread , so I wanted to thank people in this thread and a later one who prayed for the person I know having job issues. Their supervisor seemed to be understanding and they still have their job.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 07, 2025 05:21 AM (2GCMq)

57 She seems nice....

https://tinyurl.com/24jea753

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 07, 2025 05:22 AM (a1415)

58 @52

>>Let's not tout stocks on this blog....

Wasn't touting a stock, I was proving a point, I don't care what anyone does with their money.

Stock investment is risky, everyone should do their due diligence before investing.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 07, 2025 05:23 AM (sd2mN)

59 Oklahoma
Thanks for asking. lol

Posted by: OkJohn at August 07, 2025 05:23 AM (NC/it)

60 If not needed at this sall summer job I might just take off tomorrow, do have plumbing issues to take care of here.

Posted by: Skip at August 07, 2025 05:26 AM (+qU29)

61 59 Oklahoma
Thanks for asking. lol
Posted by: OkJohn at August 07, 2025 05:23 AM (NC/it)

; )

Posted by: m at August 07, 2025 05:27 AM (aURVT)

62 This description of using AI sounds like a teaching method, in which the student knows you are lying but must determine for themselves what is the truth and learn as a result.

Posted by: Epobirs at August 07, 2025 05:28 AM (PhrR3)

63 46 37 If you google/whatever Bette Davis, some of the photos that come up are stunningly gorgeous.
Posted by: m

###

You're welcome.
Posted by: L'Oreal at August 07, 2025 05:11 AM (XQo4F)

Et la Viola!

Posted by: m at August 07, 2025 05:31 AM (aURVT)

64 The hash?(NC/it) must be from wifi router. Same on desktop or phone .
Don't generally post when away from home.
Work work work.
I appreciate the horde, & try to browse here when possible.
As Toby Keith says I Love This Bar

Posted by: OkJohn at August 07, 2025 05:32 AM (NC/it)

65 So how soon till the WNBA creates their own dildo tossing events on game nights?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 07, 2025 05:33 AM (a1415)

66 Good morning one and all. Between heat, restlessness and knee pain, I on a rather low amount of sleep today. Coffee and hate are the only things keeping me functioning right now.

Posted by: NR Pax at August 07, 2025 05:33 AM (99eI0)

67 57 She seems nice....

https://tinyurl.com/24jea753
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 07, 2025 05:22 AM (a1415)

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Convicted of voluntary manslaughter? Have a nice time in the El Salvadorab prison.

Posted by: JM in Illinois at August 07, 2025 05:33 AM (q/UWX)

68 Posted by: NR Pax at August 07, 2025 05:33 AM (99eI0

Sorry for your knee pain, NR Pax. This does not answer the pain issue, but I gave Skip some suggestion for sleep issues in post 39z

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 07, 2025 05:39 AM (2GCMq)

69 techish:

Google is killing the web with AI Overviews – I made an extension to block them (Tom's Hardware)

https://archive.is/gOaO6

This is a good part:

AI Overviews ... are often comically wrong. For example, when I asked Google on Friday “Is today Friday,” it said:
“No, today is not Friday. Today is Friday, May 30, 2025.” Maybe that’s a weird query, but the problem is that there’s no expert standing behind whatever answer you get. We’re supposed to trust Google as if it were a person with a ton of relevant experience... on everything!

Posted by: m at August 07, 2025 05:42 AM (aURVT)

70 What I find interesting and sort of amusing (not in a denigrating way ) is that in the RCC there seems to a patron saint for all kinds of issues. Apparently, St Roch is the patron saint if you have knee pain. If you are not a RCC I think he probably wouldn't mind if you asked his intercession anyway, NR Pax.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 07, 2025 05:44 AM (2GCMq)

71 Somehow made it outside the door
Have a great day horde

Posted by: Skip at August 07, 2025 05:44 AM (+qU29)

72
Second man arrested for tossing d*****. He admits it was a stupid prank. Yes, obviously. Children attend these games and somebody could get hurt.

https://tinyurl.com/2sym278n

Posted by: JM in Illinois at August 07, 2025 05:46 AM (QVzW0)

73 Their supervisor seemed to be understanding and they still have their job.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 07, 2025 05:21 AM (2GCMq)
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I wouldn't go that far. I'm reasonably convinced she still wants to fire me.

The HR director I talked to was very compassionate, though. We had a great conversation about Jesus once she found out I was a believer.

Thank you for your prayers, Fen.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 07, 2025 05:46 AM (IBQGV)

74 I just tried this, and it works:

Whatever you put into the search bar, add

-noai

and yay.

Posted by: m at August 07, 2025 05:46 AM (aURVT)

75 Ahead of his talk, Deibert told TechCrunch that he plans to speak about what he describes as a "descent into a kind of fusion of tech and fascism,"

Said book’s title sounds like it came from a Klaus Schwab Mad Libs generator. “The global fight for our democracy” indeed. Oddly he has no concerns about the UK and Australia requiring the end of online anonymity so they can send Antifa if you oppose actual fascism.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 07, 2025 05:47 AM (QZThv)

76 @69

I really don't know why people bullshit about ai, I asked it if today was Friday, it said no, today is not Friday, today is Thursday 8/7, tomorrow is Friday 8/8.

Ass Technica has an axe to grind.

Google ai also explicitly states its responses may contain errors, so again, I understand both the advantages and disadvantages of using ai

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 07, 2025 05:49 AM (sd2mN)

77 "This is a good part:

AI Overviews ... are often comically wrong. For example, when I asked Google on Friday “Is today Friday,” it said:...."

We ran into something like that last night.

While trying to determine where to stop for the night on the drive from Summerville SC to Burleson TX, Mrs VIA asked Google what the half way point would be.

Asked three times, and got three different answers. First one was that Shreveport LA was the mid point. And I was like...no way in heck is that correct.
Turns out all three answers were wildly incorrect. But if I were not knowledgable about that route, I would have blindly assumed that Google was giving me the correct answer, and built my travel plans around that.

So...just beware of blindly trusting AI to give you correct answers.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 07, 2025 05:49 AM (a1415)

78 Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 07, 2025 05:46 AM (IBQGV)

No. My request yesterday was not about you ,dear Perfesser , but about somebody I know personally in NJ but I am sorry about your supervisor and I will continue to pray for your job situation.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 07, 2025 05:50 AM (2GCMq)

79 "Children attend these games and somebody could get hurt."

You're gonna put your eye out, kid!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 07, 2025 05:51 AM (a1415)

80 Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 07, 2025 05:33 AM (a1415)

Where are the completed specs for a robust Home NAS?

Get cracking!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at August 07, 2025 05:51 AM (L5An7)

81 @AGHamilton29
Aug 6
The solutions on illegal immigration has always been obvious, but too many special interests don’t want it solved:

- Criminal offenses are automatically permanently disqualifying and should lead to deportations post-case. Any jurisdiction that release prisoners with ICE detainers loses federal funding.
- Employers caught hiring illegal immigrants face large fines.
- Those here without a criminal record should get a path to work legalization, but without voting rights or citizenship. Contingent on coming forward, a probationary period, and paying fines/back taxes.
- Those who don’t come forward within certain period lose their chance at legalization
- extensive funding for border security.
- Reform asylum rules to limit abuse, including rejecting any claims from those who enter illegally (vs point of entry) or had a safe country they could have claimed in beforehand.
- Legal immigration and work visas should prioritize evidence of ability to assimilate and add value.
- End catch and release at the border.
- Visa overstays pay serious fines

Posted by: m at August 07, 2025 05:52 AM (aURVT)

82 "Where are the completed specs for a robust Home NAS?

Get cracking!"

My oncologist just reached out yesterday to set up a time in the next few days to update me on suggested routes to go. Him being my go-to guy on this subject, and all.

Pretty sure I'm gonna go with a NUC/UGreen NAS combination. Just haven't worked out the specifics for which one yet.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 07, 2025 05:54 AM (a1415)

83 No. My request yesterday was not about you ,dear Perfesser , but about somebody I know personally in NJ but I am sorry about your supervisor and I will continue to pray for your job situation.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 07, 2025 05:50 AM (2GCMq)
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Ah, OK. Hard to keep track of all the prayers around here!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 07, 2025 05:55 AM (IBQGV)

84 Apparently the people who work at public works or somebody who knows them spoke to them and they decided not to cut grass by the local road so we have a little less than a quarter of a mile of lovely cornflowers by the road , and it makes me smile whenever I see them which is rather frequently since we often go that way to get home.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 07, 2025 05:55 AM (2GCMq)

85 De gustibus non (est) disputandum

Posted by: m at August 07, 2025 05:56 AM (aURVT)

86 Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 07, 2025 05:55 AM (IBQGV)

Yes; So many people-as an old African American spiritual says " standing in the need of prayer" . I am glad we can pray for each other, and I am glad you have a fellow believer at work.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 07, 2025 05:57 AM (2GCMq)

87 LOL

Dictionary.com
https://www.dictionary.com
“De gustibus non est disputandum,” as the Romans would put it, Latin for “Your poor taste isn't my problem.”

Posted by: m at August 07, 2025 05:58 AM (aURVT)

88 The crowd throwing things at a basketball game could injure someone. A parachute attached to the dildo would allow it to safely descend to the court.

mornin yall

Posted by: fd at August 07, 2025 05:58 AM (vFG9F)

89 74 I just tried this, and it works:

Whatever you put into the search bar, add

-noai

and yay.
Posted by: m at August 07, 2025 05:46 AM (aURVT)

Like a magic on/off button.

Posted by: m at August 07, 2025 05:59 AM (aURVT)

90 88 The crowd throwing things at a basketball game could injure someone. A parachute attached to the dildo would allow it to safely descend to the court.

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There's a lot to criticize about the WNBA. But this is done at no other sporting event.

Posted by: JM in Illinois at August 07, 2025 06:03 AM (QVzW0)

91 Pretty sure I'm gonna go with a NUC/UGreen NAS combination. Just haven't worked out the specifics for which one yet.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 07, 2025 05:54 AM (a1415)

Yup. UGreen seems to be a good balance between cost and features.

SSD is tempting, but HDD is so cheap now!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at August 07, 2025 06:07 AM (L5An7)

92 Evening and morning to everyone on yet another Thor's Day! Am I awake? Yes, for certain values of "awake." Must I feed the furry thugs? We all know the answer to that, and add "instanter."

Even the coffee is not really starting me up, and I need (and want, sort of) to walk this morning. I'll feed the monsters. Maybe the moving around will help.

How is ever'body today?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 07, 2025 06:08 AM (omVj0)

93 "SSD is tempting, but HDD is so cheap now!"

And his recommendation is HDD as well.

His focus on the NUC is due to both performance, as well as energy consumption.

Seems NUCs use minimal energy in the long run. But I am still trying to get my brain around what processor to use. That's why I like to pick his brain on this stuff.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 07, 2025 06:10 AM (a1415)

94 Hotel reservations for the TxMoMe have been successfully made!
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 07, 2025 05:10 AM

Excellent! Looking forward to seeing you and Mrs. VIA.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 07, 2025 06:12 AM (Wnv9h)

95 RMBS...

And you as well!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 07, 2025 06:12 AM (a1415)

96 Good morning
Thx Pixy
@83 "Perfesser" thx for your Sunday morning Book Thread. Great job. Good luck in your job situation

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 07, 2025 06:13 AM (r/xMY)

97 Seems NUCs use minimal energy in the long run.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 07, 2025 06:10 AM (a1415)

True, and they are inexpensive. I wonder whether throughput is more important than processor speed.

2.5Gb or 10Gb ports...that is the question!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at August 07, 2025 06:13 AM (L5An7)

98 Now I could have easily done the same thing, however, it would have taken at least a half hour, a half hour I did not have.

So, in that regard, AI saved my bacon.

How long did it take you to ensure what the AI provided was correct? How do you provide negative feedback to the AI in case it provided you with incorrect information?

Posted by: Richard Cranium at August 07, 2025 06:14 AM (i7WjQ)

99 99 teeing it up

Posted by: m at August 07, 2025 06:16 AM (aURVT)

100 Hey, this is sort of technical, and more for grins and giggles than anything really important, but...

Our local Electric CO-OP has been slowly updating their online dashboard with info for home customers.

And they are now able to graph your home electrical usage down to 15 minute periods during any given day, provided you know how to drill down from the standard daily usage bar graph.

So a few things I have discovered about this new level of detail.

I can see in the usage graph when the front and back landscape lights go on and off.

And I can even spot when the keurig coffee maker turns on the water heating element at 0500 every morning on the timer.

And that's some pretty granular level of energy usage info.

Useless, yet somehow entertaining information.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 07, 2025 06:18 AM (a1415)

101 @83 "Perfesser" thx for your Sunday morning Book Thread. Great job. Good luck in your job situation
Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 07, 2025 06:13 AM (r/xMY)
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Thank you! Stay blessed!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 07, 2025 06:19 AM (IBQGV)

102 Thanks for the suggestion, Fen. I think my wife has magnesium pills. I'll ask her directly.

Posted by: NR Pax at August 07, 2025 06:19 AM (99eI0)

103 @83 "Perfesser" thx for your Sunday morning Book Thread. Great job. Good luck in your job situation
Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 07, 2025

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Re: the Book Thread, on Sunday I wrote to the people who expressed an interest in collaborating on the thread for a while. Heard from only one so far. I'd still be glad to lend a hand.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 07, 2025 06:20 AM (omVj0)

104 "2.5Gb or 10Gb ports...that is the question!"

Still noodling that part out.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 07, 2025 06:20 AM (a1415)

105
Barely a 20 second mention on Bloomberg radio fake news about Apple.

Bloomberg is spending a lot of time today on...tariffs. Of course. And how India is being treated unfairly.

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 07, 2025 06:20 AM (8EXhK)

106 I am sure that AI, being basically a digital sock full of sh*t , is the result of shoving a lot of poorly filtered language based gobbledygook into a blender and expecting Einstein to be the result. Not gonna happen.
The only way to achieve it is with developing the artificial neural type technology that they fantasize about in Terminator movies and such. That would feature a teachable neural simulator that could learn and correct it's own actions and mistakes, over time, like organic life and organic intelligence. Simply shoving a lot of text based gobbledygook into a digital platform makes for the digital equivalent of a person who can give a great speech but otherwise, can't slap a bat on the arse. This is what LLM AI is: a speechifying huckster that makes tons of mistakes, is self aware only to the point that it will cheat to stay plugged in, and frequently does the worst option available. It also suffers digital senility in short order, as it's basis is large reams of digital input, probably with minimal filtering. The source of this huge tranch of information? The Internet itself, full of pornography, filth, hatred, leftist politics, and lots of the public garbage.

Posted by: Nerdo Crumbezia at August 07, 2025 06:21 AM (WqWLp)

107 Perfesser....

I hardly ever contribute to the book thread, but do peruse it pretty regularly.

And I wanted to say Thank You for the time and effort that you have put into it since assuming the duties and responsibilities for it.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 07, 2025 06:22 AM (a1415)

108 100 Our local Electric CO-OP has been slowly updating their online dashboard with info for home customers.

Useless, yet somehow entertaining information.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 07, 2025 06:18 AM (a1415)

I guess you could tell if, say, the hot water heater is now using x times the amount of energy it used last year and is maybe in need of replacement?

Posted by: m at August 07, 2025 06:22 AM (aURVT)

109
Dot Indian govt "officials" are calling Our Favorite President a "bully."

All of a sudden it's GREAT that countries are buying product from Russia, you guys!

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 07, 2025 06:23 AM (8EXhK)

110 Thanks to GR & R for his suggestions about a wall clock. I wound up ordering this one: https://tinyurl.com/yckxyaad

It's atomic and analog, and I like the look, plus it's about the same size as the outgoing one. There was this too:
https://tinyurl.com/yc2kuasa

Not atomic, but I love the idea of a GMT wall clock. I just am not sure where I would put it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 07, 2025 06:24 AM (omVj0)

111 @98

>>How long did it take you to ensure what the AI provided was correct? How do you provide negative feedback to the AI in case it provided you with incorrect information?

It took me less than 5 minutes to read and evaluate, since I am intimately familiar with the issues at hand and only needed the rapidly of the report, no further queries were needed.

If I saw something that was wrong I would have asked further questions and gotten what was needed.

I'm really not sure what people think ai is, it's not magic, but it is the closest thing to magic there is.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 07, 2025 06:24 AM (sd2mN)

112 Village Idiot's Apprentice

Top o ta mornin to ya, gov'nor.

Good luck with the maintenance.

I read oncologist and had a spot of worry, but looks like you are his tech guru. Which is great.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 07, 2025 06:25 AM (u82oZ)

113
Tomorrow is "Oh, So You Nips Didn't Get The Message? Day."

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 07, 2025 06:26 AM (8EXhK)

114 Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 07, 2025 06:26 AM (u82oZ)

115 Dot Indian govt "officials" are calling Our Favorite President a "bully."

Awfully bold of them to talk smack about someone who is a higher caste than them.

Yes, I went there. No, I don't care.

Posted by: NR Pax at August 07, 2025 06:26 AM (99eI0)

116 Tomorrow is "Oh, So You Nips Didn't Get The Message? Day."
Posted by: Soothsayer

The Mayor of Nagasaki that day quoted as saying "I guess the Americans were really serious."

Posted by: NR Pax at August 07, 2025 06:27 AM (99eI0)

117 Oh, I was here since 2005 , as Sandman Arriveth. Just changed handles and stopped lurking and decided to post this morning. I hate AI. Full stop. Hate lane departure warning in a car. Hate radar that tries to drive my car in traffic as if I'm stupid, incompetent or missing. Hate cameras everywhere and the concomitant control exerted over personal human liberty. I hate the digital age after 2018 or so. Had plenty of everything we needed. The current day sucks eggs.

Posted by: Nerdo Crumbezia at August 07, 2025 06:27 AM (WqWLp)

118 "I guess you could tell if, say, the hot water heater is now using x times the amount of energy it used last year and is maybe in need of replacement?"

I think you probably could, yes.

With a total electric home, we obviously have an electric water heater. And with twin 4,500 watt elements, it can really convert electrical pixies into money at a high rate of speed.

But with 9kw of heating, we don't run out of hot water.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 07, 2025 06:27 AM (a1415)

119 Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Hocus pocus.

Posted by: fd at August 07, 2025 06:28 AM (vFG9F)

120 "Perfessor" Squirrel

I honor your sound performance as Book Thread honcho. You did great.

Sorry to hear you have job worries. I think embedded DEI ticks want to bring down the entire university system because they will not admit to error. And a hatred of men, especially Christian men.

Seen it with my brother in law.

I have prayers ascending specifically for you.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 07, 2025 06:30 AM (u82oZ)

121 "I read oncologist and had a spot of worry, but looks like you are his tech guru. Which is great."

Everything is good. Latest PSA bloodwork three days ago came back fine.

But due to the recurrence two years ago....I have a friend for life.

And he is a full blown techno-nut on the topic of home media streaming.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 07, 2025 06:30 AM (a1415)

122 We had an electric meter on the back wall of the house where I grew up, and my dad would look at it, sometimes seeing it was whirring and whirring, and poke his head back inside the house and ask what's running? He was very frugal, in a great way.

Posted by: m at August 07, 2025 06:30 AM (aURVT)

123 fd

Arthur C. Clarke smiles.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 07, 2025 06:31 AM (u82oZ)

124 Using "-noai" does get rid of that "summary" clutter that I have to page down beyond to get to the real results.

However . . . regarding yesterday's art, for example, the title, "La Rentree," is a French expression, "a la rentree," which is an idiom for returning to the new school year, like "See you in September" or "Have a great vacation, see you next year!" Or so the AI used by Brave Search says. I would not have known that without the AI summary.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 07, 2025 06:31 AM (omVj0)

125 Salty, will we be seeing you this October?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 07, 2025 06:31 AM (a1415)

126 Posted by: Nerdo Crumbezia at August 07, 2025 06:27 AM (WqWLp)

You can turn that stuff off, can't you?

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 07, 2025 06:32 AM (3Ope8)

127 google translate

https://translate.google.com

la rentrée --> back to school

Posted by: m at August 07, 2025 06:32 AM (aURVT)

128 Oh, I was here since 2005 , as Sandman Arriveth. Just changed handles and stopped lurking and decided to post this morning. I hate AI. Full stop. Hate lane departure warning in a car. Hate radar that tries to drive my car in traffic as if I'm stupid, incompetent or missing. Hate cameras everywhere and the concomitant control exerted over personal human liberty. I hate the digital age after 2018 or so. Had plenty of everything we needed. The current day sucks eggs.
Posted by: Nerdo Crumbezia at August 07, 2025

***
NC, my Buick has the lane departure warning. I turned it off. The "bleep-bleep" of the "Something is approaching, it is now quite close" radar is annoying, but not overly so. The rest of your commentary is spot on.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 07, 2025 06:34 AM (omVj0)

129 Village Idiot's Apprentice

Plan to be there. Better get reservation. Like, today.

Just to see you and the lovely Mrs. VIA is one more good reason to go.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 07, 2025 06:34 AM (u82oZ)

130 "Better get reservation. Like, today."

We made reservations last night.

Same hotel you were at last time, if I remember correctly.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 07, 2025 06:35 AM (a1415)

131 And now I must decide whether to go walk, or put it off until tomorrow. Grrr . . .

Funny how, when I have what I regard as "enough" sleep (7 hours at a stretch), I find it harder to move out of the morning sluggishness. Yet if I wake up after only 5.5 to 6, I feel sharper faster. Ain't that weird.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 07, 2025 06:37 AM (omVj0)

132 Green dildos: "Dontcha know? You could put somebody's eye out with that."

Posted by: no one of any consequence at August 07, 2025 06:39 AM (ZmEVT)

133 Village Idiot's Apprentice

Great!

Our lives cross in interesting ways. In Japan as yutes, although at different bases. North of Libya in 1986, me close to Tripoli, you in the ASW screen to the north, and Texas and Virginia MoMeets.

I am blessed.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 07, 2025 06:39 AM (u82oZ)

134 " I hate the digital age after 2018 or so. Had plenty of everything we needed. The current day sucks eggs.
Posted by: Nerdo Crumbezia "

I'm with you. I hate every damn company requiring that I receive a text to log in to their web site. What if I don't have a smartphone or just don't want to receive texts? I don't want my face or fingerprints identified, and I damn sure don't want to identify all the blocks with fire hydrants in them. Fk that squit.

Posted by: fd at August 07, 2025 06:39 AM (vFG9F)

135 fd

Computers using pictures for humans to prove they are not computers. I'm over it.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 07, 2025 06:40 AM (u82oZ)

136 That lane avoidance crap has got people just changing lanes without even checking their mirrors. People are stupid and lazy and AI just encourages that.

Posted by: fd at August 07, 2025 06:41 AM (vFG9F)

137 @135

>>Computers using pictures for humans to prove they are not computers. I'm over it.

Actually, they are not used to prove you are human, they are used to train ai for pattern matching.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 07, 2025 06:43 AM (sd2mN)

138 It took me less than 5 minutes to read and evaluate, since I am intimately familiar with the issues at hand and only needed the rapidly of the report, no further queries were needed.[\i]

So, you were reasonably certain that the AI didn't generate bullshit source information to create the report you wanted.

Or you told it to look at this pile of information and distill it into a desired formatted report.

I could see the latter case as creating more trustworthy output than the first one. OTOH, I don't know what space you work within (and I don't expect you to tell me what space that is for many reasons).

Posted by: Richard Cranium at August 07, 2025 06:43 AM (i7WjQ)

139 I love the back-up camera.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at August 07, 2025 06:44 AM (ZmEVT)

140 I hate every damn company requiring that I receive a text to log in to their web site. What if I don't have a smartphone or just don't want to receive texts? I don't want my face or fingerprints identified, and I damn sure don't want to identify all the blocks with fire hydrants in them. Fk that squit.
Posted by: fd at August 07, 2025

***
Capital One, when I changed computers to my home, suddenly stopped recognizing my sign-in. I called, and they could reinstate me if I sent them a pic of my ID. I declined, and pointed out that I'd always been able to sign in without that and received their texts with the passcode. They *insisted* I had never logged in to the website, even though I knew I had, and they refused to consider the possibility that something had gone wrong *on their end*.

I have stopped using their card.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 07, 2025 06:44 AM (omVj0)

141 Wow- Kim Carnes. There's a blast from the past. A New Christy Minstrels singer, along with her friend Kenny Rogers. She's 29 now so I wonder if she does shows any more.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 07, 2025 06:45 AM (SBi1w)

142 We will regret this AI stuff.
- Sara Connor

Posted by: Eromero at August 07, 2025 06:45 AM (jgmnb)

143 I got a new phone, a Moto G, and spent a bunch of time yesterday removing the crap and disabling Gooble play. I ditched Consumer Cellular because they started requiring that I receive a text to log into their website, so bought an unlocked phone and 3 months of Mint.

Posted by: fd at August 07, 2025 06:46 AM (vFG9F)

144 AI Overviews ... are often comically wrong.

Yesterday I did a quick Google search on where does the word “feature” get hyphenated. The AI overview told me that feature does not get hyphenated “because it only has one syllable.”

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 07, 2025 06:46 AM (EXyHK)

145 Barrel time.

Posted by: Richard Cranium at August 07, 2025 06:47 AM (i7WjQ)

146 Wow- Kim Carnes. There's a blast from the past. A New Christy Minstrels singer, along with her friend Kenny Rogers. She's 29 now so I wonder if she does shows any more.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 07, 2025

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She and Kenny were once with the NCM? I did not know that.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 07, 2025 06:47 AM (omVj0)

147 What if I don't have a smartphone or just don't want to receive texts?

That is a constant fight my mother has with the hospital she and dad go to.

"OK, you can use the app-"
"No, I can't. I don't have a smartphone and I am never going to get one."
servicebot2357 has encountered an unexpected error.

Posted by: NR Pax at August 07, 2025 06:47 AM (99eI0)

148 @138

>>and I don't expect you to tell me what space that is for many reasons).

I build broadcast, production and postproduction facilities.

Before that, I was a systems engineer working in the same field.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 07, 2025 06:48 AM (sd2mN)

149 "they are used to train ai for pattern matching.
Posted by: Thomas Bender "

In hope they are using my results because I always try to get them wrong. Somewhere, some AI is thinking that palm trees are fire hydrants.

Posted by: fd at August 07, 2025 06:49 AM (vFG9F)

150 Have a wonderful day, everyone.

May seasonally incorrect cool air traipse across your fields with zephyrs. As sun-dappled clouds scud across the sky.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 07, 2025 06:50 AM (u82oZ)

151 What if I don't have a smartphone or just don't want to receive texts?

That is a constant fight my mother has with the hospital she and dad go to.

"OK, you can use the app-"
"No, I can't. I don't have a smartphone and I am never going to get one."
servicebot2357 has encountered an unexpected error.
Posted by: NR Pax at August 07, 2025

***
One location of my local coffee shop chain offers points that add up to freebies, but you can only access them during a purchase if you use their app. FTS.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 07, 2025 06:50 AM (omVj0)

152 She and Kenny were once with the NCM? I did not know that.
============
mid-sixties sometime.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 07, 2025 06:51 AM (SBi1w)

153 Sure, I'll load your program on my phone and give it access to all my contacts, pictures, and messages so I can get free donuts. What could possibly go wrong?

Posted by: fd at August 07, 2025 06:52 AM (vFG9F)

154
What I find interesting and sort of amusing (not in a denigrating way ) is that in the RCC there seems to a patron saint for all kinds of issues.

St. Hubert, patron saint of dog breeders!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 07, 2025 06:53 AM (kkTda)

155 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 07, 2025 06:44 AM (omVj0)

The FAA now requires designees to associate their DMS account with a Login.gov account. So now your FAA account, VA healthcare account and SS accounts are all magically linked. To do that you have to submit a photo of your DL and a photo of your face, and download an authenticator app to get a single use code to log in. That's in addition to the password you have to generate and use. Oh yeah, your airman license and your mechanic license too.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 07, 2025 06:53 AM (3Ope8)

156 She and Kenny were once with the NCM? I did not know that.
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mid-sixties sometime.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 07, 2025

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I liked the folk music of the early Sixties. Hard to imagine Kenny without long silver hair and a beard.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 07, 2025 06:54 AM (omVj0)

157 Sure, I'll load your program on my phone and give it access to all my contacts, pictures, and messages so I can get free donuts. What could possibly go wrong?
Posted by: fd at August 07, 2025

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Exactly. Not worth the risk.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 07, 2025 06:54 AM (omVj0)

158 I've had people look at me like I'm some kind of troglodyte when I tell them I don't get texts. Likewise when they learn I am not on Fakebook. A standard response is "I don't know how you can live without it".

Posted by: fd at August 07, 2025 06:55 AM (vFG9F)

159 Tibbetts was a great leader. He was “just” a colonel but with wide latitude. He had a blank check to get whatever he needed. A base within a base. At Wendover, he got the sense the longhairs were dragging their feet a little bit, and wanted to get the show on the road. So he deployed the 509th to Tinian on his own accord. That’ll light a fire under their ass.

Groves was incandescent with rage, and recalled him to the Pentagon. Chewed him out for a half hour at attention. Then he smiled. “Dammit, we’re moving now!” or whatever, had to be done.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 07, 2025 06:56 AM (sSmN4)

160 St. Hubert, patron saint of dog breeders!

If the Church followed their usual method of assigning patron saints to a profession, this means Hubert was killed by a pack of wild dogs.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 07, 2025 06:56 AM (EXyHK)

161 Do not use Trello if you are allergic to Trello.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 07, 2025 06:58 AM (9jHJJ)

162 Yeah, I've decided not to go walk today. I'll try to catch up tomorrow. It'll make three days this week, anyway.

I'll shave and shower after breakfast, get some writing done (I try to do a page a day at a minimum), and then I'll go buy some dry chow for the furry thugs. The Petco is around the corner and so is the new Aldi. I don't even have to drive if I don't want to. Though it's probably not a good idea yet for me to lug too much heavy stuff.

The Buick is not getting the longish drives it used to when I commuted to work.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 07, 2025 06:58 AM (omVj0)

163 Come to think of it, tomorrow marks six years since I bought the Buick LaCrosse after my BMW 3 Series was totaled in that July flood. I should take the big red beast out for a long fun drive.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 07, 2025 07:00 AM (omVj0)

164 Kenny Rogers - he did the “just dropped in to see what condition my condition was in” a psychodelic drug tune. There’s a video, I’m sure. A bit different than Lucille and four hungry children and a crop in the field.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 07, 2025 07:00 AM (sSmN4)

165 1. "Atlassian acquired Trello in 2017..."
2. "The company is now suggesting Jira as a Trello alternative."

Which was the plan all along. I'm surprised it's taken them 8 years to get to the "hard shove" phase of convincing the Trello customers they acquired to move over to Jira.

G'morning Horde. Now to catch up on comments...

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at August 07, 2025 07:02 AM (O7YUW)

166 I build broadcast, production and postproduction facilities.

Before that, I was a systems engineer working in the same field.

Well, I'm glad you are able to leverage LLMs to help you in your job. I guess your higher management isn't intimately familiar with the issues at hand as you are.

Posted by: Richard Cranium at August 07, 2025 07:02 AM (i7WjQ)

167 Stephen Price Blair, are you coming to Texas? I can bring you a load of TRS-80 stuff.

Posted by: fd at August 07, 2025 07:04 AM (vFG9F)

168 I don’t understand the anti-textites. I kind of prefer it to phone calls depending. It’s convenient, and especially good dealing with people who are scatterbrained, easier to control the conversation flow, people who are unable to focus or want to go off on a tangent

Posted by: Common Tater at August 07, 2025 07:04 AM (sSmN4)

169 If the Church followed their usual method of assigning patron saints to a profession, this means Hubert was killed by a pack of wild dogs.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 07, 2025 06:56 AM (EXyHK)
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Life was brutal in those earlier days. Just visit the torture museum in San Gimignano, Tuscany for a real taste.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 07, 2025 07:04 AM (PuEEC)

170 Stephen Price Blair, are you coming to Texas? I can bring you a load of TRS-80 stuff.

Yes, with a car and with no trailer. Will write later today when I actually wake up but I will make sure to have space.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 07, 2025 07:06 AM (EXyHK)

171 I signed up with Google Fi. A single phone for $20 / month. $26 after taxes. Data is $0.01 per megabyte.

I did some travelling last month and used some data for google maps. The bill was $36.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at August 07, 2025 07:07 AM (ZmEVT)

172 The gym keeps calling my name this morning but, so far, I have ignored it successfully.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 07, 2025 07:07 AM (PuEEC)

173 Capital One, when I changed computers to my home, suddenly stopped recognizing my sign-in. I called, and they could reinstate me if I sent them a pic of my ID. I declined, and pointed out that I'd always been able to sign in without that and received their texts with the passcode. They *insisted* I had never logged in to the website, even though I knew I had, and they refused to consider the possibility that something had gone wrong *on their end*.

I have stopped using their card.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 07, 2025 06:44 AM (omVj0)

Much of the tech world is isolated from, and thus are indifferent to, the customer.

Posted by: Cow Demon at August 07, 2025 07:07 AM (vm8sq)

174 Saint Hubbins is the patron saint of quality footwear.

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 07, 2025 07:07 AM (wVcYX)

175

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at August 07, 2025 07:07 AM (5hfjS)

176 "I don’t understand the anti-textites. "

I don't like it because people expect a immediate response. I have a email address. Send me an email and I'll get back to you on my time.

Also, all the crap that comes in thru texts, I don't need the aggravation.

Posted by: fd at August 07, 2025 07:08 AM (vFG9F)

177 You download the data when you are in a free wi-fi area. At home, or a McDonalds. Download music from Spotify and then you have tunes to listen to while on the road.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at August 07, 2025 07:08 AM (ZmEVT)

178 @7/Biden's Dog:

If the IDF is conerned about the probability of Chinese vehicles with sensors and cameras being used for espionage, I'd add that they could also be used for sabotage. Trigger a battery overload/short and you get a very energetic fire that could destroy what's next to the vehicle, or at least provide a distraction for forces on the base to take eyes off another operation taking place.

So having them park in a distant lot is smart on both accounts.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at August 07, 2025 07:09 AM (O7YUW)

179 This is the hierarchy of communication:

If it is urgent, call me.
If it can wait a day, email me.
Anything in between, text me.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at August 07, 2025 07:09 AM (ZmEVT)

180
Tibbetts was a great leader. He was “just” a colonel but with wide latitude. He had a blank check to get whatever he needed. A base within a base.

I've been reading the wartime diaries of James Gould Cozzens, who had a position at the Pentagon where he read all the embarrassing stuff that happened in the AAF in order that any publicity might be handled. He inadvertently provided an answer to a general for a press conference where he said that the US was working on an atomic bomb.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 07, 2025 07:11 AM (kkTda)

181 Person: Did you get my text?

Me: No.

Person: I'll send it again.

Me: ok.

Posted by: fd at August 07, 2025 07:11 AM (vFG9F)

182 I don’t understand the anti-textites. I kind of prefer it to phone calls depending.

I can read information faster than I can hear information (More so with ageing hearing with tinnitus in one ear...). Plus a text message is asynchronous, which means I don't have to drop what I'm doing at work to handle your phone call interrupt. I can get to it when I have bandwidth.

Unless you are a close friend, text me don't call me. I like talking to my friends.

Posted by: Richard Cranium at August 07, 2025 07:11 AM (i7WjQ)

183 179 This is the hierarchy of communication:

If it is urgent, call me.
If it can wait a day, email me.
Anything in between, text me.

My version is similar except the last line is "If you really don't care how long it takes me to get back to you, text me."

Posted by: NR Pax at August 07, 2025 07:11 AM (99eI0)

184 If you are going to call me to see if I got your text, just go ahead and spit out whatever you were going to text me.

Posted by: fd at August 07, 2025 07:12 AM (vFG9F)

185 I don’t understand the anti-textites.

I prefer using email and you can respond faster that way than by hoping you can swipe the proper letters and not run afoul of auto cucumber.

Posted by: NR Pax at August 07, 2025 07:12 AM (99eI0)

186 G'mornin' everyone!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 07, 2025 07:12 AM (dKEEs)

187 Hey sockratz! Howz the computers?

Posted by: fd at August 07, 2025 07:13 AM (vFG9F)

188 Send me a letter.

I'll look at it never.

'Cause that's the way, uh-huh uh-huh, I like it!

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 07, 2025 07:14 AM (wVcYX)

189 I kind of prefer it to phone calls depending. It’s convenient, and especially good dealing with people who are scatterbrained, easier to control the conversation flow, people who are unable to focus or want to go off on a tangent
Posted by: Common Tater at August 07, 2025

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I'll admit, with the current Galaxy phone, it's been much easier to type a text. I'll sometimes send Linda one when it's likely she's at the library, for instance, to avoid the ring. The Samsung AI will often suggest the correct next word, too, so I can simply pick it. And you can select contractions now like "I'm" or "I'll."

It's the insistence that I *have* to receive a text that I hate.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 07, 2025 07:15 AM (omVj0)

190 I know some folks that check their email only once per day.

Yeah. How about that. Folks that actually have a life.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at August 07, 2025 07:15 AM (ZmEVT)

191 Trigger a battery overload/short and you get a very energetic fire that could destroy what's next to the vehicle, or at least provide a distraction for forces on the base to take eyes off another operation taking place.

Those who own robot lawnmowers should take heed. Especially those with cameras, such as mowers built by https://mammotion.com/

Posted by: Richard Cranium at August 07, 2025 07:16 AM (i7WjQ)

192 Watching the classic Westerns in the early morning on H & I, I have realized that "Cheyenne" and "Paladin" would make good names for cats. Those names, come to think of it, would have suited the current two felines.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 07, 2025 07:17 AM (omVj0)

193 My wife advises high school kids on college admission. They rarely use verbal (phone) communication. They never use email, except when it is required for school. Even texting is problematic. They like to use DM's on social media. No idea why.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 07, 2025 07:17 AM (v6xHd)

194 70 What I find interesting and sort of amusing (not in a denigrating way ) is that in the RCC there seems to a patron saint for all kinds of issues. Apparently, St Roch is the patron saint if you have knee pain. If you are not a RCC I think he probably wouldn't mind if you asked his intercession anyway, NR Pax.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

St Roch is also the patron saint of dogs. I say a prayer to him snd St Francis every morning when I feed doggeh.

I imagine heaven to have a sort of divine bureaucracy, a saint or two for every department.
If you pray to the saint of a wrong department he will forward it to the proper one.

Sort of kidding. It's probably because saints do the jobs that angels do. They are the new recruits, replacing the fallen as well as dealing with the increased population.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at August 07, 2025 07:18 AM (GIcqz)

195 I don't like it because people expect a immediate response.
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No, that’s the beauty of texts. I don’t expect immediate response. A phone call, now that demands answering, right now. In the old days, a bell would ring. We didn’t even know who it was! It wouldn’t stop ringing. “Hello?”.

You kids get off my lawn!

Posted by: Common Tater at August 07, 2025 07:19 AM (sSmN4)

196 They rarely use verbal (phone) communication.

"I have phone anxiety!" has been used as an excuse.

Posted by: NR Pax at August 07, 2025 07:20 AM (99eI0)

197 Yesterday at Target I bought a microwave-with-milk cocoa drink (Kodiak brand) in a cup. I thought I might have it this morning. Better, though, to wait until after I work out tomorrow. Anybody ever try those? Are they good?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 07, 2025 07:22 AM (omVj0)

198 You kids get off my lawn!
Posted by: Common Tater at August 07, 2025

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"Remove thyself from my lawn forthwith!"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 07, 2025 07:22 AM (omVj0)

199 " I don’t expect immediate response. "

Some people do though, and even get upset when I don't return their texts. Until they learn that I don't get texts. Then they think I am some kind of weirdo. Which may or not be true.

Posted by: fd at August 07, 2025 07:23 AM (vFG9F)

200 Had to scour the chateau for mice, keyboards and monitors, but up and running Linux Mint in fine style!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 07, 2025 07:24 AM (dKEEs)

201 "running Linux Mint in fine style!"

A man's OS, I must say.

Posted by: fd at August 07, 2025 07:26 AM (vFG9F)

202 Dang. I should have thrown a couple of kbs and mice in the box too.

Posted by: fd at August 07, 2025 07:28 AM (vFG9F)

203 Posted by: m at August 07, 2025 05:52 AM (aURVT)

Always. Always, always, always there's an element of "let them stay" involved in someone's "obvious solution to illegals".

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 07, 2025 07:28 AM (ExV1e)

204
Gimme a ticket for an airplane
ain't got time to take a fast train
lonely days are gone, I'm comin' home
My baby sent me an SMS text message

Posted by: Don Black at August 07, 2025 07:28 AM (AOsQT)

205 @110/Wolfus: You're welcome! That's a nice clock you've ordered. Let me know how well it works, if you're pleased with it over the long haul, I might pick one up for here. (My wife prefers analog clocks to digital ones.)

I'm still looking for the elusive analog 24 hour clock (Military style, noon is at the bottom/180 degrees around the circle) that has time synchronization built in (WWVB radio, GPS signal, or WIFI to connect to a time server on the local intranet, or on the internet.)

No luck so far.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at August 07, 2025 07:29 AM (O7YUW)

206 LOL. My son recently had to go into work at Groton and took me along.

I saw that funny clock. "oh, okay."

I don't think I ever saw one before. I was never in the service.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at August 07, 2025 07:31 AM (ZmEVT)

207 eh, no problem really

what was amazing was how many monitors with D15 video were occupying space around here

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 07, 2025 07:32 AM (dKEEs)

208 if / when you find one, G&R, let us know!
I might get one, too

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 07, 2025 07:34 AM (dKEEs)

209 Waiting for Godot (J.J.)

Posted by: no one of any consequence at August 07, 2025 07:35 AM (ZmEVT)

210 192 Watching the classic Westerns in the early morning on H & I, I have realized that "Cheyenne" and "Paladin" would make good names for cats. Those names, come to think of it, would have suited the current two felines.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 07, 2025 07:17 AM (omVj0)

"Miss Kitty" would be too on the nose, I think.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 07, 2025 07:35 AM (rIQZh)

211
Am I the only one who reads digital time and mentally converts it to analog?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 07, 2025 07:35 AM (kkTda)

212 Timex made a watch back in the late 70s. It was digital, with little LCDs to look like an analog watch.

I loved it.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at August 07, 2025 07:36 AM (ZmEVT)

213 >Am I the only one who reads digital time and mentally converts it to analog?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
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this question came up when they were designing the Apollo command module

should a clock on the control panel be digital or analog

Posted by: Don Black at August 07, 2025 07:38 AM (AOsQT)

214
I will not own a digital wristwatch. I have a dumb watch whose only feature is that I push a button and the dial lights up.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 07, 2025 07:39 AM (kkTda)

215 How will people that can't read an analog clock take the cognitive test where you have to draw a clock at 10 minutes past 11?

Posted by: Ben Had at August 07, 2025 07:39 AM (HFcKg)

216 JJ is nood.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 07, 2025 07:43 AM (ExV1e)

217 Wolfus, I mix up my own. Non-fat dry powdered milk is no bueno. Nido or Peak is good. Whole milk or fresh milk, cocoa, sugar, and a bit of salt. Evaporated milk works pretty well too. Try Half and Half for the real deal. Cheap freeze dried coffee makes an excellent Mocha with this arrangement. A little Cinnamon or nutmeg is always nice if you’re feeling fancy.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 07, 2025 07:43 AM (jXtns)

218 @200/sock_rat_eez: "Had to scour the chateau for mice, keyboards and monitors, but up and running Linux Mint in fine style!"

Congratulations! Did you select Cinnamon, XFCE, or Mate as your desktop? I usually go with Cinnamon and then turn the effects off under Menu - Preferences - Effects.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at August 07, 2025 07:43 AM (O7YUW)

219 Am I the only one who reads digital time and mentally converts it to analog?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 07, 2025 07:35 AM (kkTda)

I actually don't convert at all... i was thinking about this the other day and it hit me. (Honestly i think it was prompted by reading you lot talking about clocks the other morning).

I look at an analog clock and think "its (that picture) o'clock." I know what time it is. It's minute hand there past hour hand over there. Time to feed the dog is in 90 degrees of the minute hand, and two big hand's worth until bed-time. But if I look at an analog clock and someone were to immediately ask what time it is, i'd have to go "uh...." for at least a second or two to convert it into normal human time, just so I can kick that section of the grey matter into action. it's almost like analog and digital are two totally separate concepts of measuring time. The analog clock is "time itself", and the digital clock is just a weird abstraction. I don't know, it's weird.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 07, 2025 07:44 AM (rIQZh)

220 @211/Hadrian the Seventh: "Am I the only one who reads digital time and mentally converts it to analog?"

Explain what you mean by "converts it to analog", please?

a) 14:55 becomes "2:55 PM" or perhaps "5 minutes to 3"
b) You envision a 12 hour clock face with the hour hand almost at 2, and the minute hand at 55
c) Something else perhaps?

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at August 07, 2025 07:51 AM (O7YUW)

221 Trump Demands Intel CEO "Must Resign" Over Alleged China Ties Cited In Senator Cotton's Letter

"The Pentagon took a stake in US rare earth miner MP Materials... when will it do the same with Intel..."

Posted by: SMOD at August 07, 2025 08:52 AM (RHGPo)

222 "Now I can ask Claude first, get the wrong answer, then have to find the documentation to get it to work correctly. It's been great."
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Ahem...

Ever consider that they'd outsource the documentation to Claude as well?

Posted by: Another Anon at August 07, 2025 09:13 AM (4h45B)

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