Wednesday Morning Rant

Heat

It's summertime and that means - you might want to sit down for this - it gets hot. Shocking, I know. This year, as in many prior years, Western Europe has had a spate of hot weather. This seems to happen most years. Europe gets hot, stuff shuts down, people die and then things return to normal. This year, it was early, and various outfits estimate that it caused thousands of deaths - a bunch of them, of course, directly attributable to Muh Climate Change.

As easy as it would be to write it off as the annual exercise in European absurdity and weakness, that would obscure an underlying issue. Why does this happen to Europe? Why are heat waves in the US notable but not a nightmare that suspends public life and results in thousands of deaths (if estimates are to be believed)? Two words: air conditioning. We have it, they don't. But why don't they have it?

Air conditioning is a bone of contention in Europe. Some people want it and some people don't, as is right and proper. Different strokes for different folks and all that. It becomes interesting when some people want it, but can't get it because somebody else thought it would be better if it was unavailable. Sometimes, this is due to Muh Climate Change. Britain, for example, has banned R410a refrigerant for small systems (we are following them), which has implications for cost but not availability. Britain also requires government permission to install air conditioning in commercial buildings.

But the real issue lurks beneath the surface. It isn't about refrigerants or health and safety or the always convenient "climate change." It's about energy and anipathy:

Europeans look with disdain at overcooled US buildings, kept to near meat-locker temperatures, where a blast of cold air can shoot across city sidewalks as people come and go, and extended indoor appointments necessitate a sweater even in the height of summer.

Air conditioning is what those unsophisticated Americans do! Europeans swelter like civilized people. That's one aspect, but that also isn't policy. People turning their noses up at air conditioning because of America hatred isn't a sufficient explanation, especially when it's hot out and people flock to stores to buy air conditioners. The same article, though, provides the real reasons:

During Europe's heatwave in July, Floriana Peroni's vintage clothing store had to close for a week.
A truck of rented generators blocked her door as they fed power to the central Roman neighbourhood hit by a blackout as temperatures surged. The main culprit: air conditioning.
The period - in which temperatures hit 40C - coincided with peak electricity use that came close to Italy’s all-time high, hitting a peak load of more than 59 gigawatts on 19 July. That neared a record set in July 2015.
Intensive electricity use knocked out the network not only near the central Campo de Fiori neighbourhood, where Peroni operates her shop, but elsewhere in the Italian capital.
Demand in that second July week surged 30 per cent, correlating to a heatwave that had persisted already for weeks, according to the capital’s electricity company ARETI.

Their grids aren't built for air conditioning demand, and they probably can't accommodate it due, at least in part, to insane environment regulations. So what to do? Outright bans are possible, but cause political trouble when people like Marine Le Pen call for installing air conditioning in schools and hospitals, not restricting it. Bans are politically tricky, and not as desirable as scare tactics. - and Fance in particular seems to love scare tactics:

French authorities pushed back. Energy minister Agnès Pannier-Runacher said large-scale air conditioning would heat up streets with the machines' exhaust, making heat waves worse. "It's a bad solution," she told reporters during the last heat wave, flanked by the perspiring prime minister, François Bayrou . "We should air-condition for vulnerable people to give them a break, but on the other hand we shouldn't do it everywhere."

Ah, so control access to air conditioning to avoid heating up the cities during heat waves. There has been some research that indicates that large-scale air conditioning can increase outdoor temperature - by a couple of degrees centigrade under ideal conditions. Even if true, this is a preposterous reason to restrict air conditioning given that at worst it's a rounding error on urban heat islands. But then, of course, there's the real scare tactic - that air conditioning will kill you:

In France, media outlets often warn that cooling a room to more than 15 degrees Fahrenheit below the outside temperature can cause something called "thermal shock," resulting in nausea, loss of consciousness and even respiratory arrest.

If this were true, much of the American population would die every year - yet they say it with straight faces. Eeeeeeeevil American-style air conditioning will kill you and broil the city. Best to let your betters in government ration it.

But whatever the rationalization, the real problems are an inadequate energy grid, ruinous regulations that restrict availability while increasing costs and cultural objections. Hot weather reduces the last of these, so the governments have to step in and ramp up artificial constraints, with a healthy dose of fear to sell it to their publics. It is the European Way.

So as usual, continue to reject the "we ought to be more like Europe" argument whenever it surfaces. At least we don't have die-offs when it gets above a hundred degrees.

Posted by: Joe Mannix at 11:00 AM

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1 First!!

Posted by: Polka will never die at July 30, 2025 11:00 AM (uxAXv)

2 I got nothin'.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 30, 2025 11:00 AM (ExV1e)

3 nd

Posted by: Polka will never die at July 30, 2025 11:00 AM (uxAXv)

4 Whew

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 30, 2025 11:01 AM (9avc6)

5 Will summon the otters

Posted by: Polka will never die at July 30, 2025 11:01 AM (uxAXv)

6 Damn, it's hot.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 30, 2025 11:03 AM (Q4IgG)

7 Hi!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 30, 2025 11:03 AM (GbwPZ)

8 The Isuzu Rodeo is the most uncomfortable vehicle I've ever ridden in.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 30, 2025 11:04 AM (uqNg8)

9 French authorities pushed back. Energy minister Agn�s Pannier-Runacher said large-scale air conditioning would heat up streets with the machines' exhaust, making heat waves worse. "It's a bad solution," she told reporters during the last heat wave, flanked by the perspiring prime minister, Fran�ois Bayrou . "We should air-condition for vulnerable people to give them a break, but on the other hand we shouldn't do it everywhere."

One suspects that Energy Minister Agnes Pannier-Runacher would be counted among the vulnerable who deserve AC. Either that, or it smells like a stockyard in her office.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 30, 2025 11:04 AM (Riz8t)

10 Try air conditioning, you freaks!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 30, 2025 11:04 AM (GbwPZ)

11 The AC is too damn high. I'm freezing.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 30, 2025 11:05 AM (uqNg8)

12 It's the coolest July I've sweated through so far.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 30, 2025 11:05 AM (mlg/3)

13 Heh. Joke circulating during Desert Shield/Storm. The Airborne is so tough they don't have AC in their tents. The Marines are tougher. They have AC but don't turn it on.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 30, 2025 11:05 AM (gm9Sb)

14 In France, media outlets often warn that cooling a room to more than 15 degrees Fahrenheit below the outside temperature can cause something called "thermal shock," resulting in nausea, loss of consciousness and even respiratory arrest.

So cool to 14 degrees below ambient.
*makes hand clapping motion*

Posted by: Archimedes at July 30, 2025 11:05 AM (Riz8t)

15
It is fair to surmise that there exists a Keffiyeh Kaucus in Congress, yes?

Besides Rancid Talib, who else is a member of the Keffiyeh Kaucus?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 30, 2025 11:05 AM (xG4kz)

16 This year, it was early, and various outfits estimate that it caused thousands of deaths - a bunch of them, of course, directly attributable to Muh Climate Change.

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I blame Drumphff!

Posted by: ShainS -- The Marshall Plan is MORTE! at July 30, 2025 11:06 AM (59/4m)

17 Weak, ineffective power grids serving weak, ineffective people. No offense to CBD.

Posted by: Polka will never die at July 30, 2025 11:06 AM (uxAXv)

18
In France, media outlets often warn that cooling a room to more than 15 degrees Fahrenheit below the outside temperature can cause something called "thermal shock," resulting in nausea, loss of consciousness and even respiratory arrest.

___________

If you're a wuss. The Houston World Series of Dog Shows is held at NRG Center in July. Outside it's in the 90s. Inside you'd better be wearing a sweater.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 30, 2025 11:07 AM (HZi96)

19 Europe also brags about it's infant mortality rate is a lot lower than the USA.

They don't tell you they don't count the deaths of premature births.

speaking of, term the earliest baby ever born just turned 1 year old. I think it was right at 24 weeks.

Posted by: polynikes at July 30, 2025 11:07 AM (VofaG)

20 Willowed: I was a passenger in a Miata for a 2 1/2 hour trip on I-10.

Never again.
Posted by: polynikes at July 30, 2025

***
If it was the stretch from the eastern edge of Baton Rouge to the Texas border, I completely understand. You'd think you were in a Conestoga wagon instead of a car, bumping across the prairie west toward Cali-forny.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 30, 2025 11:07 AM (omVj0)

21 >>Intensive electricity use knocked out the network not only near the central Campo de Fiori neighbourhood, where Peroni operates her shop, but elsewhere in the Italian capital.

Pretty sure that power isn't just scarce, but hella expensive (because it's scarce, right?). Europe has trapped its people in this seasonal Hell to punish them, all part of the Malthusian Church of Climate Change.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 30, 2025 11:07 AM (GbwPZ)

22 The Celsius scale sucks as a measure of air temperature. Fahrenheit is far superior.

Posted by: Bulg at July 30, 2025 11:07 AM (77rzZ)

23 Mmmm, glorious "thermal shock."

It's awful, Euroserfs.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 30, 2025 11:08 AM (i24o9)

24 Has anyone ever gotten frostbite from the AC?

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 30, 2025 11:09 AM (uqNg8)

25 osted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 30, 2025 11:07 AM (omVj0)

It was from Houston to Lake Charles. I thought we were going to be crushed like a bug multiple times. Did you know Semis have a pretty powerful draft? /s

Posted by: polynikes at July 30, 2025 11:09 AM (VofaG)

26 Europeans look with disdain at overcooled US buildings, kept to near meat-locker temperatures, where a blast of cold air can shoot across city sidewalks as people come and go, and extended indoor appointments necessitate a sweater even in the height of summer.

In the summer I set my AC to 79 (a bit over 26 in commie units), which I am led to understand is nearly a killing temperature.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 30, 2025 11:10 AM (ExV1e)

27 Europeans look with disdain at overcooled US buildings, kept to near meat-locker temperatures…

I complain about the extreme cold in meeting rooms all the time (LibertyCon has gotten better, but the North Texas RPG Con does in fact require a sweater in June in Texas) but if they think those are meat-locker temperatures I have to wonder about the rate of food-related deaths in Europe.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 30, 2025 11:10 AM (EXyHK)

28 If some miraculous discovery made wind and solar capable of generating continuous and unlimited energy, the greenies would be against it.

They're against the energy, at base.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 30, 2025 11:10 AM (XvL8K)

29 From the last thread:

Dead Milkman are a cover band for the Grateful Dead. People still travel to see them because all of that LSD isn't being consumed by anyone younger than 50.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 30, 2025 10:44 AM (u/fjM)

I thought Phish was the Dead cover band?

Posted by: John Bindo Jingleheimer Altovidi at July 30, 2025 11:10 AM (Dg2sF)

30 The Celsius scale sucks as a measure of air temperature. Fahrenheit is far superior.
Posted by: Bulg

F has a greater range in measurement than C, despite it's arbitrarian nature. Tho, it'd be funny to have weather reports in Kelvin.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 30, 2025 11:10 AM (mlg/3)

31 It's best to boil frogs slowly least they jump out of the pot.

Posted by: toby928 at July 30, 2025 11:10 AM (jc0TO)

32 If you're a wuss. The Houston World Series of Dog Shows is held at NRG Center in July. Outside it's in the 90s. Inside you'd better be wearing a sweater.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 30, 2025

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Cleveland's Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame was like that, and some restaurants are like that here. Believe me, I do NOT want to see A/C go away. I'll bring a sweater, thankewverymuch.

I understand Australia has the same attitude as Europe about the technology? Seems to me it would be hotter there than in the corresponding latitudes in the Northern Hemisphere. The Earth is closest to the Sun on Jan. 2, right at the start of their summer, and the Southern Hemisphere has more water, thus holds more heat.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 30, 2025 11:11 AM (omVj0)

33 So I see the economic indicators were fantastic today... And Powell still refuses to lower interest rates...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 30, 2025 11:11 AM (VE6XX)

34
So as usual, continue to reject the "we ought to be more like Europe" argument whenever it surfaces.

By "be more like Europe", do you mean drop trousers, bare our asses, and wiggle them provokablya like female Mandrils in estrus?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 30, 2025 11:11 AM (xG4kz)

35 31 It's best to boil frogs slowly least they jump out of the pot.
Posted by: toby928 at July 30, 2025 11:10 AM (jc0TO)

Isn't that just sous-vide?

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 30, 2025 11:12 AM (PiwSw)

36 Speaking of heating up in Europe, we just offloaded 20ea B-61 gravity nukes at RAF Lakenheath in the UK. We had previously removed our nukes back around 2008. The SAM mission had its transponder on so we're telegraphing this move to Putin.

At this point, I would think we'd be working to get our military personnel out of the UK.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 30, 2025 11:12 AM (qwx/I)

37 I have one of those little box air conditioners (actually a mini swamp cooler) in case of a power failure. Thing charges from a USB cord and in a pinch I could charge it in the car. Even with our sky high humidity in these parts, it does a good enough job where you could get a decent night's sleep. Works real good if you put ice in the reservoir. I imagine they could be popular in Europe.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 30, 2025 11:12 AM (gm9Sb)

38 Has anyone ever gotten frostbite from the AC?
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 30, 2025 11:09 AM (uqNg

ACs get frostbite. Everyone who has gone out to check their unit to see why its just blowing warm air and sees a block of ice on the coils knows this.

Posted by: polynikes at July 30, 2025 11:12 AM (VofaG)

39 Women, Minorities hardest hit

"Extreme heat
Ethnic minorities in England at higher risk of heat-related deaths, says study"

https://tinyurl.com/3ypa2h84

Posted by: oglebay at July 30, 2025 11:12 AM (MMp6W)

40 In the summer I set my AC to 79 (a bit over 26 in commie units), which I am led to understand is nearly a killing temperature.

Me, too. I know it’s a cliché, but in the dry heat of this part of Texas, I start to feel chilled around 77°, 78°.

When I go back to Michigan to visit my dad, I have to put out the winter sheets. Not only does he set the temperature to 72° (he needs it cooler at night, I don’t care about the temperature at night as long as it’s within reason; I’m sleeping and not paying attention) but the guest room is in the partially-underground basement, where it gets even colder than whatever the temperature is set at.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 30, 2025 11:13 AM (EXyHK)

41 ‘ Europeans look with disdain at overcooled US buildings,’

Another reason to say ‘Fuck those people.’

Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 30, 2025 11:13 AM (jbnUc)

42 I think rate cuts are coming. Real Estate in the south is stumbling.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 30, 2025 11:13 AM (uqNg8)

43 well at least all the hotels, restaurants and heavily frequented tourist spots are air conditioned.

the Euros understand how to keep the visitors coming back for more

Posted by: kallisto at July 30, 2025 11:13 AM (dCxaZ)

44 Willowed from the last thread:

The longest trip I ever took in the Miata was from Lexington, Ky to down around the causeways in Louisiana. It wasn't that bad. The worst ride was the first one of any length which was driving from Louisville to Wright Patterson AF museum. That was rough.

But it reminded me of a multihour trip on a motorcycle. The suspension is rougher on you that a car normally is, so that's why you are sore and tight.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 30, 2025 11:13 AM (bss/y)

45 Europe's inadequate grid and inadequate supply is going to cause them much greater long term problems than just discomfort, and a few are starting to notice. (But it surprises me how few) The problem is simple, and economic - industry, and especially Data Storage, Data Processing, AI and Cloud Services, and virtually anything that is needed for a digital economy requires huge amounts of processing power, which requires huge amounts of raw power.

Europe doesn't have it, Europe has no hope of getting it anytime soon. Which means that the entire Digital Economy is going to pass Europe by and be concentrated in the US, China, and the far eastern Tech dominated countries. (Probably India as well) Which means Europe is well on its way to becoming an economic backwater, a faded theme park with castles and an uneducated 3rd world population.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 30, 2025 11:13 AM (uWKK8)

46 Lol, this site has gotten so bad on mobile browsers that it randomly crashes other apps on my brand new phone whenever I have it open. I know there are a bunch of different hoops you can jump through to make it perform less execrably, but *wow.*

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 30, 2025 11:13 AM (vMkD7)

47
It was from Houston to Lake Charles. I thought we were going to be crushed like a bug multiple times. Did you know Semis have a pretty powerful draft? /s
Posted by: polynikes at July 30, 2025

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Yeah, they go howling along the Interstates like they were going to be given free food and fuel at the end of their trips. Houston I understand has bad streets, but once you're out of there, the Texas roads are pretty good. Then you cross into Lousy-ana and "Dear God, what did we just hit?" "Just a pothole."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 30, 2025 11:13 AM (omVj0)

48
Latitudes

Rome: 42 north
Paris: 49 north
London: 51 north

Boston: 42 north
New York: 40 north
Houston: 29 north

Sapporo: 43 north
Tokyo: 35 north
Nagasaki: 32 north

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 30, 2025 11:14 AM (HZi96)

49 Isn't most of Europe at about the same latitude as Canada? They don't get anywhere close to as hot as most of the US gets, if I remember right, and certainly nowhere near as humid.

Posted by: MaureenTheTemp at July 30, 2025 11:14 AM (HI5Mk)

50 Ethnic minorities in England at higher risk of heat-related deaths, says study"

https://tinyurl.com/3ypa2h84
Posted by: oglebay at July 30, 2025 11:12 AM (MMp6W)

Getting a bunch of Sami and Eskimos, are they?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 30, 2025 11:14 AM (Cx1Fv)

51 Thermal shock? I thought that was insulated long Johns causing static electricity.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Lying Dogface Pony Soldier at July 30, 2025 11:14 AM (L/fGl)

52 Europe is a former 1st world area quickly becoming a 3rd world shit hole due to leftists, homosexuals, muzzies and Albanians.

Posted by: Wrap It Up at July 30, 2025 11:15 AM (G3G8A)

53 Meanwhile, where we live, we've had a gorgeous summer. High temps in the mid nineties and overnight lows in the mid to high sixties.

The high desert rocks during the summer, because, due to low humidity, shade actually means something.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 30, 2025 11:15 AM (tT6L1)

54 my nearest relatives' homes in Italy are not air conditioned, but they live at high altitude so it rarely gets steaming hot there

Posted by: kallisto at July 30, 2025 11:15 AM (dCxaZ)

55 I do salute the Europeans for their current adoption of indoor plumbing.

Despite all that wasted water.

Posted by: Stateless - HAPPY NOT HOMELESS! - New Life Creation 15.5 % at July 30, 2025 11:15 AM (jvJvP)

56 I guess the real question is, do Europeans hate AC or have Europeans been told that they hate AC and are incapable of disagreeing with their government without the fear of being imprisoned?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 30, 2025 11:15 AM (ExV1e)

57 My cousin married a Greek from Chaniá on Crete. Her husbands’s mother wouldn’t use the air conditioning my cousin and her Greek husband bought for her. She thought air-conditioned air was unhealthy. The climate in summer on Crete was pleasantly mild, so maybe they don’t need it as much.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 30, 2025 11:15 AM (wZlsB)

58 It's best to boil frogs slowly least they jump out of the pot.
Posted by: toby928

The one proverb Mythbusters refused to test.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 30, 2025 11:15 AM (mlg/3)

59 I imagine [evaporative coolers] could be popular in Europe.

I believe they are more popular there than here. I used to use one in San Diego. It’s nice in San Diego temps because you get to keep the window open while cooling the room (in fact, you have to keep the window open, or the humidity builds up and the unit stops doing its job).

Certainly wouldn’t want to use one in Texas, or even in Michigan.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 30, 2025 11:16 AM (EXyHK)

60 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 30, 2025 11:13 AM (vMkD7)

with me it's the iPad that is challenging

desktop PC is smooth sailing

Posted by: kallisto at July 30, 2025 11:16 AM (dCxaZ)

61 Give us your unwanted/ un-airconditioned people.

Posted by: Dreamingrobot at July 30, 2025 11:16 AM (UZXmi)

62 >>They're against the energy, at base.

Bingo!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 30, 2025 11:16 AM (GbwPZ)

63 Europeans look with disdain at overcooled US buildings, kept to near meat-locker temperatures,
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It's a good thing the Euros don't exaggerate or anything.

Posted by: Axeman at July 30, 2025 11:17 AM (Q4cxx)

64 I set my AC at 74. Probably could live with 76 or 77 but the electric bill is very reasonable so no need to change.

Posted by: polynikes at July 30, 2025 11:17 AM (VofaG)

65 I'm not happy unless it's chill enough to hang meat.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 30, 2025 11:17 AM (dtajH)

66 There's nothing wrong with not having air conditioning, provided that you design your building to stay cool without it.

Modern architectural design pre-supposes that a building will be mechanically heated and cooled.

So if you construct a building which is designed to be mechanically heated and cooled, but don't bother to put in the mechanical heating and/or cooling, you're screwed in terms of indoor climate comfort.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 30, 2025 11:17 AM (a+4eV)

67 my uncle has one of those body coolers, I think made by Sharper Image

it curls around the neck. I tried it and it works REALLY well

Posted by: kallisto at July 30, 2025 11:18 AM (dCxaZ)

68
Isn't most of Europe at about the same latitude as Canada?

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Also the Atlantic winds moderate Europe's temperatures. It gets nowhere near as hot and nowhere near as cold as the US.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 30, 2025 11:18 AM (HZi96)

69 I think rate cuts are coming. Real Estate in the south is stumbling.
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That pre-supposes Powell wants economy to succeed.

Posted by: Crusader at July 30, 2025 11:18 AM (TN0g+)

70 While doing my other skill, yogurt production, we would go from 110 degree hot box to 40 degree cool box. I am lucky to have survived!!!

Posted by: Mongo at July 30, 2025 11:18 AM (s9EN2)

71 I was told the US economy was ruined in April. Whut happen?

@cvpayne 2h
Breaking News
2Q25 GDP 3.0%
Consensus 2.3%

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 30, 2025 11:18 AM (mlg/3)

72 desktop PC is smooth sailing

Fiber?

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 30, 2025 11:19 AM (TfzRo)

73 I set my AC at 74. Probably could live with 76 or 77 but the electric bill is very reasonable so no need to change.
Posted by: polynikes at July 30, 2025 11:17 AM (VofaG)
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Where we live, we can get away with setting the AC @ 79 or 80. Low humidity helps tremendously.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 30, 2025 11:19 AM (tT6L1)

74 ***
Yeah, they go howling along the Interstates like they were going to be given free food and fuel at the end of their trips. Houston I understand has bad streets, but once you're out of there, the Texas roads are pretty good. Then you cross into Lousy-ana and "Dear God, what did we just hit?" "Just a pothole."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 30, 2025 11:13 AM (omVj0)

Living near the ET-Louisiana border, I would joke that you could tell where the State Line was by the sign saying "road maintenance ends".

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 30, 2025 11:19 AM (uWKK8)

75 It gets pretty cool in our office. I keep a sweater handy. When I leave for the day I drive home with the windows down so I can thaw out a little.

Been a bit warm here, but nothing unbearable. But because of our location in the mountain time zone, the hottest part of the day is often 6 or 7pm.

Posted by: Mike, Possibly white, at Werk at July 30, 2025 11:19 AM (PSEDc)

76 desktop PC is smooth sailing

Desktop Mac is smooth sailing as well. I suspect the problem is memory. Phones and other portable devices have less memory. The “ads” served by the ad server on the AOSHQ seem to be genuinely malicious, trying tricks such as using up lots of memory to crash the client; usually when a server does this it is for the purpose of malware injection. No idea why an ad server would want to do this.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 30, 2025 11:19 AM (EXyHK)

77 We need to get a zone system so I don't need to wear a sweater downstairs.

Posted by: oglebay at July 30, 2025 11:19 AM (MMp6W)

78 They're short on energy, yet still importing new people as fast as they can. Makes it worse - more people they can't cool (or warm in the winter).

It makes no sense!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 30, 2025 11:19 AM (GbwPZ)

79 I worked for a new manufacturing startup for a European concern a few years ago (failed, they shut their doors last year) where they were setting up a high-ceilinged assembly area in N Illinois. They thought it snowed all the time here, not getting how miserably hot and humid the facility would get from May to September. Caused electronics to malfunction. I only lasted one year thankfully.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 30, 2025 11:19 AM (qwx/I)

80 I was told the US economy was ruined in April. Whut happen?

@cvpayne 2h
Breaking News
2Q25 GDP 3.0%
Consensus 2.3%
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 30, 2025 11:18 AM (mlg/3)
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Unexpectedly!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 30, 2025 11:19 AM (tT6L1)

81 I never had an AC when I lived in NYC . I can only remember one summer where I wish I did. The box fan in the window was not a lot of help.

Posted by: polynikes at July 30, 2025 11:19 AM (VofaG)

82 59 Swamp coolers work great in the dry AZ climate providing the mats the water trickles through are changed regularly. I saw some that had been removed and they (wicker construction) were just about totally calcified.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 30, 2025 11:20 AM (gm9Sb)

83 71 I was told the US economy was ruined in April. Whut happen?

@cvpayne 2h
Breaking News
2Q25 GDP 3.0%
Consensus 2.3%
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 30, 2025 11:18 AM (mlg/3)

Who you gonna believe, Liz Warren or your lying eyes?

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 30, 2025 11:20 AM (uWKK8)

84
Texas roads: built by Germans

Louisiana roads: built by the French

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 30, 2025 11:20 AM (HZi96)

85 Rome and Chicago are on the same latitude. Our pizza's better.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 30, 2025 11:20 AM (qwx/I)

86 I don’t want to hear a peep from the cheese-eating surrender monkeys about anything associated with air conditioning. They should know better. The French did the right thing and built their electric generation infrastructure around nuclear. Don’t feel guilty about using it.

Posted by: Dirac_Delta at July 30, 2025 11:20 AM (m/MJs)

87 "we ought to be more like Europe"
-

I got nothing.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 30, 2025 11:20 AM (PxkKd)

88 my uncle has one of those body coolers, I think made by Sharper Image

it curls around the neck. I tried it and it works REALLY well

Something similar happens when you cool your wrists. I assume it's because it drops the T of the near-surface blood. IOW, you're a radiator.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 30, 2025 11:20 AM (Riz8t)

89 unless it's chill enough to hang meat.

The Paolo has, how you say, hanging meat.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 30, 2025 11:21 AM (TfzRo)

90 Rome and Chicago are on the same latitude. Our pizza's better.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie

You mean cheese casserole.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 30, 2025 11:21 AM (mlg/3)

91 When I leave for the day I drive home with the windows down so I can thaw out a little.

Back before I retired, on the days I drove in to work I looked forward to getting in the car that had been soaking up heat all day. I might have felt differently in Texas, but in San Diego the hot car was perfect for throwing off the chill of the office.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 30, 2025 11:22 AM (EXyHK)

92 >>Living near the ET-Louisiana border, I would joke that you could tell where the State Line was by the sign saying "road maintenance ends".

Also really easy to tell when you leave VA and enter WVA for the opposite reason - thanks to former Sen. Robert Byrd and all his pork!!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 30, 2025 11:22 AM (GbwPZ)

93 Deep dish is basically quiche.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 30, 2025 11:22 AM (uqNg8)

94 Their grids aren't built for air conditioning demand

but electric cars are a-ok

Posted by: anachronda at July 30, 2025 11:22 AM (v3pYe)

95 You mean cheese casserole
_____________

Heh

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 30, 2025 11:22 AM (QOFKB)

96
You always know the exact moment when you cross into Pennsylvania.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 30, 2025 11:22 AM (HZi96)

97 Europe also brags about it's infant mortality rate is a lot lower than the USA.

They don't tell you they don't count the deaths of premature births.

Posted by: polynikes

I'm told some places only count the deaths is the kid is more than a year old.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 30, 2025 11:22 AM (a+4eV)

98 I remember attending a week-long scientific conference at MIT, up in Cambridge MA. The conference was held in one of the buildings used for classrooms on campus. The building had no air conditioning. It was sweltering hot! I remember dressing down after the first day, and bringing a portable electric fan with me. I don’t suppose they held classes in that building in summer.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 30, 2025 11:23 AM (wZlsB)

99 I've never stayed in a hotel in Europe that wasn't air conditoned.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at July 30, 2025 11:23 AM (36PRH)

100
Certainly wouldn’t want to use one in Texas, or even in Michigan.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 30, 2025 11:16 AM (EXyHK)

My Grandparents had a swamp cooler in El Paso. Seemed to work fine- although Uncle Steve had refrigeration and that was nice.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 30, 2025 11:23 AM (bss/y)

101 My girlfriend is weird. She likes the house colder than I do. 72 for her. 76 for me in the day.

Most women complain about freezing.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 30, 2025 11:23 AM (mzM2O)

102 93 Deep dish is basically quiche.

Had stuffed Rosati's for breakfast today actually.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 30, 2025 11:23 AM (qwx/I)

103 You mean cheese casserole.

I was assuming he was from Rome.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 30, 2025 11:23 AM (EXyHK)

104 When I was a cubicle dweller in Ohio, my coworker was a nice lady in her 50's.

I like it cool.

In the summer, she'd have a little heater going under her desk. Ughhh.

Posted by: Stateless - HAPPY NOT HOMELESS! - New Life Creation 15.5 % at July 30, 2025 11:23 AM (jvJvP)

105 81 I never had an AC when I lived in NYC . I can only remember one summer where I wish I did. The box fan in the window was not a lot of help.

Posted by: polynikes at July 30, 2025 11:19 AM (VofaG)

I had no a/c in one of my city apartments. It was fine except the one year was terrible. I would walk to the local supermarket and just stand in front of the refrigerated section. Every now and then I'd open the freezer door and just stand there.

Posted by: kallisto at July 30, 2025 11:23 AM (dCxaZ)

106 39
“ Ethnic minorities in England at higher risk of heat-related deaths, says study"

Oh. Bullshit. They’re all FROM hot , un-air conditioned countries.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 30, 2025 11:24 AM (jbnUc)

107 Deep dish pizza: Cake with pepperoni frosting.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 30, 2025 11:24 AM (tT6L1)

108 It makes no sense!
Posted by: Lizzy at July 30, 2025 11:19 AM (GbwPZ

I disagree. It makes perfect sense if you're of nefarious intent.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 30, 2025 11:24 AM (mzM2O)

109 101 My girlfriend is weird. She likes the house colder than I do. 72 for her. 76 for me in the day.

Most women complain about freezing.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 30, 2025 11:23 AM (mzM2O)

Constant 71 in summer, 66 in winter here...

I freeze in winter, but do okay in summer...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 30, 2025 11:24 AM (tOcjL)

110 Posted by: Tom Servo at July 30, 2025 11:19 AM (uWKK

Louisiana actually made I -!0 From the border to Lake Charles a pretty smooth ride . They had to make sure the Texas casino crowd didn't have a bad trip.

Posted by: polynikes at July 30, 2025 11:25 AM (VofaG)

111 46 Lol, this site has gotten so bad on mobile browsers that it randomly crashes other apps on my brand new phone whenever I have it open. I know there are a bunch of different hoops you can jump through to make it perform less execrably, but *wow.*
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
========
Brave on Android (or Windows, Linux, etc.) works just fine--basically a de googled Chrome.

Any Apple browser is simply a skin over Safari--which blows chunks as far as compatibility, speed, and any other criteria.

Posted by: whig at July 30, 2025 11:25 AM (ctrM5)

112 Climate wise, Rome is more like Florida though. Almost tropical from what I saw.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 30, 2025 11:25 AM (bss/y)

113 103 You mean cheese casserole.

I was assuming he was from Rome.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 30, 2025 11:23 AM (EXyHK)

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What I call cheese grits might be mistaken for a cheese casserole.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at July 30, 2025 11:26 AM (36PRH)

114 "We should air-condition for vulnerable people to give them a break, but on the other hand we shouldn't do it everywhere."

Be quiet, peasant from a conquered nation. I will enjoy my nation's love of technology and comfort.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 30, 2025 11:26 AM (BpO1e)

115 It is rather cool to be zooming past the nuclear reactors in France riding the TGV at 180 mph. The European rail system is far superior to the US/Amtrak rail system, you have to give them credit for that.

*Narrator: When they're not on strike

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at July 30, 2025 11:26 AM (w9Wax)

116 if they can't run an air conditioner Imma guess air fryers are not even heard of

Posted by: DanMan at July 30, 2025 11:26 AM (8uzBS)

117 You always know the exact moment when you cross into Pennsylvania.

sure you lose a tire in a massive pothole

Posted by: Black Orchid at July 30, 2025 11:26 AM (Pv3Rg)

118 Most women complain about freezing.
Posted by: AlaBAMA
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Higher surface to interior ratio on the average woman means core is less insulated than on the average guy.

Posted by: whig at July 30, 2025 11:26 AM (ctrM5)

119 Been a mild summer here so far. Highs mostly in the mid to upper 70s. This week we'll be in the low 80s...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 30, 2025 11:26 AM (ynpvh)

120 112 Climate wise, Rome is more like Florida though. Almost tropical from what I saw.

not as humid tho

Posted by: Black Orchid at July 30, 2025 11:27 AM (Pv3Rg)

121 116 if they can't run an air conditioner Imma guess air fryers are not even heard of
Posted by: DanMan at July 30, 2025 11:26 AM (8uzBS

Heathen Americans and their fried foods!!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 30, 2025 11:27 AM (mzM2O)

122 You watch westerns set in the SW (Tombstone is always on anytime on some channel) or look at old photos and you wonder how they got by. Heavy wool men's suits, women in corsets and long dresses. Guess they were just climatized.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 30, 2025 11:27 AM (gm9Sb)

123 OT:

re: the Tea app

I get the feeling that the users of this app fell for 'just the tip' and 'I'll let you know' a lot.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 30, 2025 11:27 AM (bss/y)

124 The difference in temperature in LA between Santa Monica and the Valley is startling.

When I was about to relocate the area years ago, there was a heat wave in Santa Monica. Temperatures got to 85 degrees, and people were apologizing for the uncomfortable weather. Turns out that relatively few homes there have A/C, but as a New Yorker I felt fine. Drove to the Valley about 15 miles away, and as we were driving there I'd see the outside temp gauge in my car tick up to...105. With humidity.

We promptly decided to get a place on the West Side and call it a day.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 30, 2025 11:27 AM (0CU3H)

125 Deep dish is basically quiche.
Posted by: Boss Moss

Doesn't quiche have eggs in it?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 30, 2025 11:27 AM (mlg/3)

126 Chicago pizza and their hot dogs are fit only for swine.

Posted by: Smithfield Ham at July 30, 2025 11:27 AM (G5+As)

127 Adam Carolla's stories about growing up only having a useless swamp cooler are hilarious. No one can bitch as funny as Carolla. It's like he's a moron.

Posted by: polynikes at July 30, 2025 11:27 AM (VofaG)

128
The European rail system is far superior to the US/Amtrak rail system, you have to give them credit for that.

___________

We have an extensive, profitable rail system in the US. It is used, quite properly, for hauling freight.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 30, 2025 11:27 AM (HZi96)

129 118 Most women complain about freezing.
Posted by: AlaBAMA
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Higher surface to interior ratio on the average woman means core is less insulated than on the average guy.
Posted by: whig at July 30, 2025 11:26 AM (ctrM5

I'm sure that's a reference to boobs but I'm not very scientific.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 30, 2025 11:28 AM (mzM2O)

130 Doesn't quiche have eggs in it?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 30, 2025 11:27 AM (mlg/3)

Isn't pizza dough made with egg?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 30, 2025 11:28 AM (mzM2O)

131 We vacationed in Italy in the summer of 2022. In one apartment in Milan, there was an air conditioner, a washer, and even a machine dryer. However, the circuits could not handle all of them running at the same time, unlike with a typical American house or apartment. We had to time our choice of appliance use very carefully.

Posted by: Isophorone at July 30, 2025 11:29 AM (IG5iM)

132 We have an extensive, profitable rail system in the US. It is used, quite properly, for hauling freight.

And for inspiring mediocre folk singers.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 30, 2025 11:29 AM (Riz8t)

133 Certainly wouldn’t want to use one in Texas, or even in Michigan.

Evaporative coolers work fine in west Texas, which is generally dry as a bone (we get our cotton crops out there because we irrigate). My maternal grandparents had a big evaporative cooler up on the roof, and you could sure feel it when they turned it on!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 30, 2025 11:29 AM (wZlsB)

134 I get the feeling that the users of this app fell for 'just the tip' and 'I'll let you know' a lot.

ohh FOR CERTAIN

and I think unfortunately a lot of surprise anal goes on. I feel for young women today!

stupid crap porn

Posted by: Black Orchid at July 30, 2025 11:29 AM (Pv3Rg)

135 125 Deep dish is basically quiche.
Posted by: Boss Moss

Doesn't quiche have eggs in it?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 30, 2025 11:27 AM (mlg/3)
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Oui!

A folded mini-pizza is basically a calzone without the crimping.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at July 30, 2025 11:29 AM (36PRH)

136 By the way, there was an article years ago which pointed out the average temperature in the US is considerably higher than in Europe, necessitating A/C.

Near as I can tell, Brits start sweltering at anything over about 85 degrees. (No, I'm not going to do the commie Centigrade conversion)

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 30, 2025 11:29 AM (tT6L1)

137 The European rail system is far superior to the US/Amtrak rail system, you have to give them credit for that.

They are basically a serf Borg. (hah a new homonym to use in the future). Americans love their cars.

Posted by: polynikes at July 30, 2025 11:29 AM (VofaG)

138 Lol, this site has gotten so bad on mobile browsers that it randomly crashes other apps on my brand new phone whenever I have it open. I know there are a bunch of different hoops you can jump through to make it perform less execrably, but *wow.*
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 30, 2025 11:13 AM (vMkD7)

Well, this site was built to be viewed on an actual computer with a large screen and an actual Web browser. The fact that you can access it on a phone at all is remarkable. And "new" phones are intended by their manufacturers to serve you ads. I am reading the HQ on a 15 year old PC, with a new hard drive, and a fresh install of the current edition of Linux Mint, and use Brave browser. I am seeing exactly Zero ads.

Go find an older laptop; load it with Mint, and Brave, and use your phone as a wifi hub, and browse the Internet ad-free. And it needn't cost any more than a tank of gas.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 30, 2025 11:30 AM (E23dO)

139 To paraphrase Larry Correia: If the Euros are right about the dangers of AC, then people in Phoenix would be exploding.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 30, 2025 11:30 AM (D7oie)

140 Doesn't quiche have eggs in it?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 30, 2025 11:27 AM (mlg/3) Europeans.

And failure.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 30, 2025 11:30 AM (i24o9)

141 115 It is rather cool to be zooming past the nuclear reactors in France riding the TGV at 180 mph. The European rail system is far superior to the US/Amtrak rail system, you have to give them credit for that.

*Narrator: When they're not on strike
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks
========
Rail works affordably for transport in very densely populated areas like Boswash corridor in US.

The rest of the US rail system is set up for freight nowadays at an average speed of 45-55 mph and just like older roads, the curves, etc. were not designed for high speed travel.

Posted by: whig at July 30, 2025 11:30 AM (ctrM5)

142 Oooooooohhhhh it's 30 celcius! Ever body gone die!!!! Reeeeee!!!!

Bitch, please. 86 is our overnight low.

Morning all. Not in the mood for whiny assed europeans.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 30, 2025 11:30 AM (Q3wU3)

143 127 Adam Carolla's stories about growing up only having a useless swamp cooler are hilarious. No one can bitch as funny as Carolla. It's like he's a moron.

he's awesome. he's like our Demi-Moron

Posted by: Black Orchid at July 30, 2025 11:30 AM (Pv3Rg)

144 when I was kid my sisters used space heaters in their rooms upstairs...momma liked that AC and it never bothered me

Posted by: DanMan at July 30, 2025 11:30 AM (8uzBS)

145 Isn't Europe's electrical grid fairly brittle no matter the load? Several months ago, IIRC there were large scale power outages stranding the public who relied on public transportation. Photos of people wandering the countryside...

Spain?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 30, 2025 11:30 AM (Q4IgG)

146 Louisiana actually made I -!0 From the border to Lake Charles a pretty smooth ride . They had to make sure the Texas casino crowd didn't have a bad trip.
Posted by: polynikes at July 30, 2025

***
It's been a long time since I drove that way -- prob. not since the period after Katrina, Sept.-Oct. 2005. The I-10 was horrible around and through Lafayette when I went that way and up I-49 in the spring of '11.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 30, 2025 11:31 AM (omVj0)

147 I wonder if they could make pizza crusts out of that tannish sausage?

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 30, 2025 11:31 AM (uqNg8)

148 Certainly wouldn’t want to use one in Texas, or even in Michigan.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 30, 2025 11:16 AM (EXyHK)

My Grandparents had a swamp cooler in El Paso. Seemed to work fine- although Uncle Steve had refrigeration and that was nice.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 30, 2025 11:23 AM (bss/y)

Growing up in Phoenix in the 60's, that was all our first house had. But it worked really well; the dryer the air is, the better they work.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 30, 2025 11:31 AM (uWKK8)

149 >>re: the Tea app

I get the feeling that the users of this app fell for 'just the tip' and 'I'll let you know' a lot.

People are stupid, and social media (and online dating) has trained them to overshare online. Any normal person would know that app was baaaaaad idea and a lawsuit waiting to happen. Seriously, has the concept of slander been totally forgotten?

Sad they can't use the old ways - live in a community where people know each other and you can warn off your gal pals in person, discreetly about a potentially bad dude.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 30, 2025 11:31 AM (GbwPZ)

150 ohh FOR CERTAIN

and I think unfortunately a lot of surprise anal goes on. I feel for young women today!

stupid crap porn
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 30, 2025 11:29 AM (Pv3Rg)

Ok, I guess I get the idea of wanting to have a review board for dudes. The way dating is now with everyone being sexual nomads, whatever.

But putting up a picture of your ID? Really ladies?

This is digital Darwinism.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 30, 2025 11:31 AM (bss/y)

151 Celsius? What's that?

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 30, 2025 11:31 AM (uqNg8)

152 For our trip to Germany this summer, the lovely and thrifty Mrs naturalfake got us a super-duper bargain for a couple of night's stay in a snazzy Schloss(palace) that had been converted to a hotel.

One thing that made me laugh was when we checked in, the desk Fraulein was very very excited to let us know that we had received a free upgrade and now! our room actually had air conditioning!!!!

Apparently, you pay more than $20 in town for that kind of action.

I thanked her politely and let her know that we Texans love our air conditioning, and went to our air conditioned(!) room.

But, really, air-conditioning as an option?

Barbaric!!!

Posted by: naturalfake at July 30, 2025 11:31 AM (iJfKG)

153 Their grids aren't built for air conditioning demand, and they probably can't accommodate it due, at least in part, to insane environment regulations.

So what to do?

Fuck you Mr. Macron. I expect you to die.
Posted by: Auric Goldfinger

Posted by: rickb223 at July 30, 2025 11:31 AM (Q3wU3)

154 Having enjoyed many Chicago-style pizzas, I will not put up with pizza bigotry.

Posted by: Axeman at July 30, 2025 11:31 AM (Q4cxx)

155 An enjoyable flight requires a seat far from the restrooms. This is even more important when traveling long distances by train. The conservative approach is to get a sleeper but use the public restrooms until those have filled up before using the one in your room.

Posted by: oglebay at July 30, 2025 11:32 AM (MMp6W)

156 Celsius? What's that?
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 30, 2025 11:31 AM (uqNg

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A low-calorie spritzer energy drink.

Posted by: Axeman at July 30, 2025 11:32 AM (Q4cxx)

157 Celsius? What's that?
Posted by: Boss Moss

It's for people who can't count higher than 100.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 30, 2025 11:33 AM (Q3wU3)

158 I'm sure that's a reference to boobs but I'm not very scientific.
Posted by: AlaBAMA
=====
LOL. Skin surface area including boobage.

Posted by: whig at July 30, 2025 11:33 AM (ctrM5)

159 Having enjoyed many Chicago-style pizzas, I will not put up with pizza bigotry.
Posted by: Axeman at July 30, 2025 11:31 AM (Q4cxx)

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Bigotry? We're not bigoted. We merely acknowledge Chicago style pizza has very selective appeal.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 30, 2025 11:33 AM (tT6L1)

160 Macron can snuggle with his husband for warmth.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 30, 2025 11:33 AM (uqNg8)

161 Isn't most of Europe at about the same latitude as Canada? They don't get anywhere close to as hot as most of the US gets, if I remember right, and certainly nowhere near as humid.

Posted by: MaureenTheTemp

The French Riviera is on about the same latitude as southern Maine...

Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at July 30, 2025 11:33 AM (OUMaO)

162 I think Powell and the other assholes at the Fed will not lower rates this time (as a show of toughness against Trump) but will next time I'm Sept.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 30, 2025 11:33 AM (mzM2O)

163 Isn't most of Europe at about the same latitude as Canada? They don't get anywhere close to as hot as most of the US gets, if I remember right, and certainly nowhere near as humid.
Posted by: MaureenTheTemp at July 30, 2025 11:14 AM (HI5Mk)

~85-90 degrees F is killing heat in EU. I saw it my first summer in Germany when I was stationed there. The schwimbads were a wonderland for the female form though.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 30, 2025 11:33 AM (g8Ew8)

164 One Portland "climate activist" is upset that Portland is having a cool summer.

Fortunately, he can point to hot weather elsewhere in the US (otherwise known as "summer") to argue that industrial society needs to be dismantled.

Knock on wood, but my god, the Pacific Northwest really has dodged a bullet this year. Feels like the whole damn country has been absolutely broiling since May, except for our little corner.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 30, 2025 11:34 AM (xTIDn)

165 "In France, media outlets often warn that cooling a room to more than 15 degrees Fahrenheit below the outside temperature can cause something called "thermal shock," resulting in nausea, loss of consciousness and even respiratory arrest."

Well, then, this cannot just be a summer phenomenon. To help the poor people of France and protect them from thermal shock, I propose that they restrict heat in the winter so that the indoor temperature can be no more than 14 degrees above the outdoor temperature. That way, when the French venture outside, they don't have to worry about nausea, loss of consciousness, or respiratory arrest.

Posted by: Virginia SoCon at July 30, 2025 11:34 AM (a/dOO)

166 Climate wise, Rome is more like Florida though. Almost tropical from what I saw.
*
not as humid tho
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 30, 2025

***
"To-ga! To-ga! To-ga!"
( -- Julius Caesar as a teen)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 30, 2025 11:34 AM (omVj0)

167 We merely acknowledge Chicago style pizza has very selective appeal.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 30, 2025 11:33 AM

Chicago really isn't much of a pasta town.

Posted by: toby928 at July 30, 2025 11:34 AM (jc0TO)

168 Isn't pizza dough made with egg?
Posted by: AlaBAMA

I just choked on my coffee

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 30, 2025 11:35 AM (mlg/3)

169 The house I grew up in Michigan did not have AC, as it was built around 1910. We just broke out the window and floor fans in the summer.

Posted by: Bulg at July 30, 2025 11:35 AM (77rzZ)

170 Doesn't quiche have eggs in it?
Posted by: weft cut-loop

Quiche is awesome. You can eat it cold & one handed sitting in a deer blind.

Bacon, eggs, cheese & pie crust. What's not to love?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 30, 2025 11:35 AM (Q3wU3)

171 One Portland "climate activist" is upset that Portland is having a cool summer.

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It was a cool, cool summer.
Leaving warmists out on their own.

Posted by: Axeman at July 30, 2025 11:36 AM (Q4cxx)

172 It has not been that bad this year at all temp wise.

Plus, we have gotten a ton more rain than usual.

Overall, climate this year gets a thumbs up.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 30, 2025 11:36 AM (bss/y)

173 Having enjoyed many Chicago-style pizzas, I will not put up with pizza bigotry.

Posted by: Axeman at July 30, 2025 11:31 AM (Q4cxx)

It's gay. Is it delicious? Then quit your bitching and eat your quiche, homo.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 30, 2025 11:36 AM (i24o9)

174 >>Bacon, eggs, cheese & pie crust. What's not to love?

THIS

Posted by: Lizzy at July 30, 2025 11:36 AM (GbwPZ)

175 157 Celsius? What's that?
Posted by: Boss Moss

It's for people who can't count higher than 100.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 30, 2025 11:33 AM (Q3wU3)
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I believe Celsius was a mythological character, condemned to Hades for all eternity to reset the thermostat every time Persephone turned it down.

Posted by: Ron Burgundy at July 30, 2025 11:36 AM (36PRH)

176 Posted by: naturalfake at July 30, 2025 11:31 AM (iJfKG)

I have stayed in some hotel rooms in the US where it was not far off from being able to hang meat.

Posted by: polynikes at July 30, 2025 11:36 AM (VofaG)

177 168 Isn't pizza dough made with egg?
Posted by: AlaBAMA

I just choked on my coffee
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 30, 2025 11:35 AM (mlg/3

Probably the egg in your coffee.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 30, 2025 11:36 AM (mzM2O)

178 It was a cool, cool summer.
Leaving warmists out on their own.
Posted by: Axeman at July 30, 2025 11:36 AM (Q4cxx)

Heh. I can tell you all do not live in the southern regions.

August is the worst here.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 30, 2025 11:36 AM (bss/y)

179
Her Majesty says the interstate going through Shreveport is a washboard. She'll take the bypass rather than try going straight through.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 30, 2025 11:37 AM (HZi96)

180 >>Isn't pizza dough made with egg?

Flour, water, oil, yeast, salt, pinch of sugar.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 30, 2025 11:37 AM (GbwPZ)

181 162 I think Powell and the other assholes at the Fed will not lower rates this time (as a show of toughness against Trump) but will next time I'm Sept.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 30, 2025 11:33 AM (mzM2O)

I regularly watch financial news on Bloomberg, and over the past couple of days you've seen a huge vibe shift there. As late as last Friday, they would pack their commentary with anti-tariff, anti-Trump 'experts'. Since the EU breakthrough over the weekend, I've noticed some fairly prominent Wall Street voices say that now they understand what Trump was trying to do, and they're saying that it could (and so far, is) absolutely working. Guests are now making Trump's case for lowering rates for him - and Bloomberg hosts are shocked.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 30, 2025 11:37 AM (0CU3H)

182 "In France, media outlets often warn that cooling a room to more than 15 degrees Fahrenheit below the outside temperature can cause something called "thermal shock," resulting in nausea, loss of consciousness and even respiratory arrest."

Well, then, this cannot just be a summer phenomenon. To help the poor people of France and protect them from thermal shock, I propose that they restrict heat in the winter so that the indoor temperature can be no more than 14 degrees above the outdoor temperature. That way, when the French venture outside, they don't have to worry about nausea, loss of consciousness, or respiratory arrest.
Posted by: Virginia SoCon

Virginia SoCon for President of France! Bravo!

Posted by: rickb223 at July 30, 2025 11:37 AM (Q3wU3)

183 Seems to me we're only months away from all the imports to Europe to take over. They'll slaughter all the pale skinned people.

At which point, are they more or less likely to want AC?

Posted by: BurtTC at July 30, 2025 11:37 AM (dGCAG)

184 Isn't pizza dough made with egg?
Posted by: AlaBAMA

I just choked on my coffee
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 30, 2025 11:35 AM (mlg/3

Probably the egg in your coffee.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 30, 2025 11:36 AM (mzM2O)
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This place.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 30, 2025 11:37 AM (tT6L1)

185 I think Powell and the other assholes at the Fed will not lower rates this time (as a show of toughness against Trump) but will next time I'm Sept.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 30, 2025 11:33 AM (mzM2O)
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His time to fuck with the economy is growing shorter.

Posted by: Axeman at July 30, 2025 11:37 AM (Q4cxx)

186 You watch westerns set in the SW (Tombstone is always on anytime on some channel) or look at old photos and you wonder how they got by. Heavy wool men's suits, women in corsets and long dresses. Guess they were just climatized.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 30, 2025 11:27 AM (gm9Sb)

I always think of that when I think of the Lizzie Borden case. The day of the murder was in the 90s, everyone was wearing wool and they'd had mutton soup for breakfast.

I'd have snapped, too.

Posted by: John Bindo Jingleheimer Altovidi at July 30, 2025 11:37 AM (Dg2sF)

187 this has been one of the coolest summers in Texas so far...pool barely makes 90 deg

Posted by: DanMan at July 30, 2025 11:38 AM (8uzBS)

188 >>It was a cool, cool summer.
Leaving warmists out on their own.

But ooh, whoa-oh
It's a cruel summer with you

Posted by: Lizzy at July 30, 2025 11:38 AM (GbwPZ)

189 and I think unfortunately a lot of surprise anal goes on. I feel for young women today!

stupid crap porn
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 30, 2025 11:29 AM

*shifty eyes*

Yes...it's the porn.

*shifty eyes*

Posted by: A river otter at July 30, 2025 11:38 AM (dPfyF)

190 Most women complain about freezing.
Posted by: AlaBAMA
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Higher surface to interior ratio on the average woman means core is less insulated than on the average guy.
Posted by: whig

The monthly blood loss doesn't help things either in the thermoregulation department.

Posted by: Bulg at July 30, 2025 11:38 AM (77rzZ)

191 I have stayed in some hotel rooms in the US where it was not far off from being able to hang meat.
Posted by: polynikes at July 30, 2025 11:36 AM (VofaG)

The thing about being too cold is:

1) You can turn down the AC.

2) Wear more clothes.

Too hot, you are kind of fucked at a certain point.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 30, 2025 11:38 AM (bss/y)

192 with me it's the iPad that is challenging

Yes. Whatever is dorking the home page is iOS specific. Some days/weeks it's worse than others so I suspect some kind of rotating ad.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 30, 2025 11:38 AM (/y8xj)

193 My old Polish landlady in Erie had a huge exhaust fan in the attic. When it would kick in it sounded like the Lockheed wind tunnel. That thing would have a cooling effect all through the building. Even on the first floor you could feel the air circulating.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 30, 2025 11:38 AM (gm9Sb)

194 In 1980, 10% of the residences in the Portland area had air conditioning. People just suffered for the dozen overly hot days a year.

For decades now, every new residence in the Portland area is built with air conditioning, and it is now viewed as such a necessity that enormous subsidies are being paid to ensure that poor people have air conditioning.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 30, 2025 11:38 AM (xTIDn)

195 I regularly watch financial news on Bloomberg, and over the past couple of days you've seen a huge vibe shift there. As late as last Friday, they would pack their commentary with anti-tariff, anti-Trump 'experts'. Since the EU breakthrough over the weekend, I've noticed some fairly prominent Wall Street voices say that now they understand what Trump was trying to do, and they're saying that it could (and so far, is) absolutely working. Guests are now making Trump's case for lowering rates for him - and Bloomberg hosts are shocked.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 30, 2025 11:37 AM (0CU3H

I've yet to see Trump be wrong on the economy. You'd think Powell would realize that Tariffs work and were invented for a reason. Idiot.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 30, 2025 11:38 AM (mzM2O)

196 59 gigawatts! 59 gigawatts!!!
Great Scott!
Marty, do you know what this means???

Posted by: Diogenes at July 30, 2025 11:38 AM (W/lyH)

197 Yeast rolls dough same recipe with pizza dough.

Posted by: Dreamingrobot at July 30, 2025 11:38 AM (tnpEF)

198 Isn't pizza dough made with egg?
Posted by: AlaBAMA

I just choked on my coffee
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 30, 2025 11:35 AM (mlg/3

Probably the egg in your coffee.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 30, 2025 11:36 AM (mzM2O)

Probably choked on the chicken, first.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 30, 2025 11:39 AM (i24o9)

199
My Grandparents had a swamp cooler in El Paso. Seemed to work fine- although Uncle Steve had refrigeration and that was nice.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 30, 2025

***
When we visited Mrs. Wolfus No. 2's grandparents in Tucson, in June (bad idea), they had only a swamp cooler. It got the interior of the house about twenty degrees lower than outside.

Outside in the afternoon was 107.

And her grandfather *turned the swamp cooler off* when we left the house to sightsee -- afraid of fire (?!?). The house was an oven when we got back and took forever to cool to that 87. Her g'parents were not poor; I can't imagine why they didn't have at least a couple of window units.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 30, 2025 11:39 AM (omVj0)

200 Sad they can't use the old ways - live in a community where people know each other and you can warn off your gal pals in person, discreetly about a potentially bad dude.
Posted by: Lizzy
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I actually do not think that was the point of the app--it was instead to manipulate the common AWFL idea that all men are bastards attitudes and the app enabled users to get social comfort from the herd.

It was also designed to shield the users from the outside world observers. That was in part to prevent users from being sued for libel if they make unsubstantiated or false claims online about specific individuals.

Posted by: whig at July 30, 2025 11:39 AM (ctrM5)

201 I thought Phish was the Dead cover band?
Posted by: John Bindo Jingleheimer Altovidi at July 30, 2025 11:10 AM (Dg2sF)

Dude, no, who can forget Jerry Garcia's imaginative Bitchen Camaro, and that time the Dead had Dylan on tour and they did Punk Rock Girl?

Posted by: Kindltot at July 30, 2025 11:39 AM (D7oie)

202 @191 sounds like every hotel on the Vegas Strip.

Posted by: Ron Burgundy at July 30, 2025 11:39 AM (36PRH)

203 155 An enjoyable flight requires a seat far from the restrooms. This is even more important when traveling long distances by train. The conservative approach is to get a sleeper but use the public restrooms until those have filled up before using the one in your room

What are you talking about? The toilets on Amtrak trains aren’t chemical toilets. They don’t fill up: they dump their contents on the tracks! That’s why you are asked not to flush while in a station.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 30, 2025 11:40 AM (wZlsB)

204 143 127 Adam Carolla's stories about growing up only having a useless swamp cooler are hilarious. No one can bitch as funny as Carolla. It's like he's a moron.

he's awesome. he's like our Demi-Moron

demi-moron > demi moore

Posted by: anachronda at July 30, 2025 11:40 AM (v3pYe)

205 buildings, kept to near meat-locker temperatures, where a blast of cold air can shoot across city sidewalks as people come and go, and extended indoor appointments necessitate a sweater even in the height of summer.

---------------

Envy much?

"Envy, definitely my second favorite sin." -- Satan

Posted by: ShainS -- The Marshall Plan is MORTE! at July 30, 2025 11:40 AM (eBrCM)

206 Is every band a Walking Dead Cover Band today?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 30, 2025 11:40 AM (bss/y)

207 I think Powell and the other assholes at the Fed will not lower rates this time (as a show of toughness against Trump) but will next time I'm Sept.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 30, 2025 11:33 AM (mzM2O)

I've heard it said it's not really Powell's cal. If debt holders don't want the rates dropped, he might not be in a position to do so, on threat they'll do something or other.

I don't understand any of it, but all I know is there are people who really control things, and most of them, we don't know their names. Powell is a puppet, just like everyone else.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 30, 2025 11:40 AM (dGCAG)

208 My old Polish landlady in Erie had a huge exhaust fan in the attic. When it would kick in it sounded like the Lockheed wind tunnel. That thing would have a cooling effect all through the building. Even on the first floor you could feel the air circulating.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 30, 2025 11:38 AM (gm9Sb)

These were popular in the deep south.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 30, 2025 11:40 AM (i24o9)

209 You watch westerns set in the SW (Tombstone is always on anytime on some channel) or look at old photos and you wonder how they got by. Heavy wool men's suits, women in corsets and long dresses. Guess they were just climatized.
Posted by: bill in arkansas

People weren't fat. And the town banker that was, always looked like they were melting.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 30, 2025 11:40 AM (Q3wU3)

210 When the Trump plan to re-route the Gulf Stream north to Greenland, most of Europe will be like Siberia. And it will serve them right!

Posted by: Climate Justice Now! at July 30, 2025 11:40 AM (G5+As)

211 When we moved toLake Charles, Louisiana in 1966 wee had no AC and the schools had no AC just ceiling fans. Our house just had an attic fan which we lived with for over a year before we got a window unit.

My tolerance for heat was built up bigley.

Posted by: polynikes at July 30, 2025 11:40 AM (VofaG)

212 Chicago really isn't much of a pasta town.
Posted by: toby928 at July 30, 2025 11:34 AM (jc0TO)

I hear it toddles, though.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 30, 2025 11:41 AM (Dg2sF)

213 >>I actually do not think that was the point of the app--it was instead to manipulate the common AWFL idea that all men are bastards attitudes and the app enabled users to get social comfort from the herd.

It was also designed to shield the users from the outside world observers. That was in part to prevent users from being sued for libel if they make unsubstantiated or false claims online about specific individuals.
- - -

Good point -- started by a gay dude, so maybe it was anti-breeder, too, iykwim.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 30, 2025 11:41 AM (GbwPZ)

214 demi-moron > demi moore
Posted by: anachronda at July 30, 2025 11:40 AM (v3pYe)

Wait, are we talking oui era Demi or Striptease?

Cause early Demi was pretty darn cute.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 30, 2025 11:41 AM (bss/y)

215 Cool. A pretty, young woman just won a car on "The Price is Right."

Good for her.

There's a "Corner Gas"episode where the older couple have a digital thermostat installed instead of the older arrow types which leave temperature to the imagination.

The thermostat gets set to 72 F and he's too hot. It gets set to 70 F and she's too cold. Hank sets the thermostat to 22 Celcius. No one knows what the exact temperature is.

Oscar: "You used the metric system for good!"

Posted by: Stateless - HAPPY NOT HOMELESS! - New Life Creation 15.5 % at July 30, 2025 11:41 AM (jvJvP)

216 What Europe needs to do is tear down all of their historic structures and install windmills in their place - problem solved!

Posted by: Thomans Paine at July 30, 2025 11:41 AM (Vfq+S)

217 The thing about being too cold is:

1) You can turn down the AC.

2) Wear more clothes.

Too hot, you are kind of fucked at a certain point.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

I've always maintained that it's much easier to get warm when it's cold than it is to get cool when it's hot.

Posted by: Bulg at July 30, 2025 11:41 AM (77rzZ)

218 99
‘ I've never stayed in a hotel in Europe that wasn't air conditoned.’
I have. In Spain. I wouldn’t recommend.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 30, 2025 11:42 AM (jbnUc)

219 Don't want to offend anyone but if I had to pick my poison I would choose NYC over Chicago by a landslide.

Posted by: polynikes at July 30, 2025 11:42 AM (VofaG)

220 You know what else besides A/C can save your life?

https://is.gd/vbtBDX

2-legged rescue Chihuahua helps save his owner from ‘widowmaker’ heart attack'

Danged if that feisty little two-legged hero dog didn't jump and down on the man's chest with just his two hind legs.. Instinctively, with no formal medical training or prior experience.

Posted by: muldoon at July 30, 2025 11:42 AM (poXs5)

221 "In France, media outlets often warn that cooling a room to more than 15 degrees Fahrenheit below the outside temperature can cause something called "thermal shock," resulting in nausea, loss of consciousness and even respiratory arrest."
__________

They must keep tripping over bodies if they have walk-in beer coolers.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 30, 2025 11:42 AM (XvL8K)

222
My father once took a train from Chicago to New York because flying was risky. He said he would as soon have flown through thunderstorms with ice on the wings and an engine on fire rather than take a train again.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 30, 2025 11:42 AM (HZi96)

223 It was a cool, cool summer.
Leaving warmists out on their own.

A standard mantra of the climate nuts is that "this summer is the coldest summer of the rest of your life" - i.e. that each summer will be hotter than the one before, until you burn to a crisp.

They get upset when that turns out not to be true.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 30, 2025 11:42 AM (xTIDn)

224 my grandmother was considered rich in her tiny town in NE Texas...she had a window unit A/C in her 'front room'.

She only ran it when the preacher was coming for lunch after church.

She never slept with an A/C on even in the summer. Her sisters in that town had swamp coolers. The floors were wavy from the moisture in the rooms that had them.

Posted by: DanMan at July 30, 2025 11:43 AM (8uzBS)

225 I've heard it said it's not really Powell's cal. If debt holders don't want the rates dropped, he might not be in a position to do so, on threat they'll do something or other.

I don't understand any of it, but all I know is there are people who really control things, and most of them, we don't know their names. Powell is a puppet, just like everyone else.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 30, 2025 11:40 AM (dGCAG)

I think you're right. But there are a lot of noisemakers on the other side. Especially the housing market who are stagnant.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 30, 2025 11:43 AM (mzM2O)

226
And her grandfather *turned the swamp cooler off* when we left the house to sightsee -- afraid of fire (?!?). The house was an oven when we got back and took forever to cool to that 87. Her g'parents were not poor; I can't imagine why they didn't have at least a couple of window units.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 30, 2025 11:39 AM (omVj0)

When I moved to the wild west, swamp coolers are everywhere, and I didn't understand why. Sure, they cool down buildings, but not like a true AC does.

And it's ALWAYS true that if you turn your system off, the amount of energy it takes to get it back to your designated temp is going to cost you as much, if not more on your energy bill.

But people still think they're saving money by turning the damn thing off.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 30, 2025 11:43 AM (dGCAG)

227 I have stayed in some hotel rooms in the US where it was not far off from being able to hang meat.
Posted by: polynikes at July 30, 2025 11:36 AM (VofaG)

The thing about being too cold is:

1) You can turn down the AC.

2) Wear more clothes.

Too hot, you are kind of fucked at a certain point.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Learned that from a retired post man. (Carrier when they walked)

You can put enough on to stay warm, but you can't remove enough to stay cool.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 30, 2025 11:43 AM (Q3wU3)

228 >>Dude, no, who can forget Jerry Garcia's imaginative Bitchen Camaro, and that time the Dead had Dylan on tour and they did Punk Rock Girl?

It's a boring day, I've got nothing to do
Except to get a load of retards and drive 'em to the zoo. . .

Posted by: Lizzy at July 30, 2025 11:43 AM (GbwPZ)

229 The "slave quarter" apartment I grew up in on Bourbon Street (yes, really) had no air until I was about twelve. We opened windows, thus welcoming in mosquitoes, and still had no breeze without the almost-useless fans.

Then Mom bought a window unit, and I instantly snapped into action. I moved indoors from reading in the shady part of the patio and remained in the cool as much as I could until school started in late August.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 30, 2025 11:43 AM (omVj0)

230 My favorite ED girl is back, but her sleeves are connected to her sweater this time.
I had learned I like free-floating sleeves.

Posted by: From about That Time at July 30, 2025 11:44 AM (n4GiU)

231 Bloomberg hosts are shocked.
Posted by: Darrell Harris
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Bloomberg hosts work for Mikey Bloomberg--ardent NTer. Same as Faux News work for Rupert and Lachlan Murdoch, ditto. Both are committed globalists with substantial financial interests in China.

You can get decent information from either but you have to ignore the underlying anti Trump bias permeating the reporting in both places.

Posted by: whig at July 30, 2025 11:44 AM (ctrM5)

232 hese were popular in the deep south.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 30, 2025 11:40 AM (i24o9)

you had to open the windows to get the real effect.

Posted by: polynikes at July 30, 2025 11:44 AM (VofaG)

233 In France, media outlets often warn that cooling a room to more than 15 degrees Fahrenheit below the outside temperature can cause something called "thermal shock," resulting in nausea, loss of consciousness and even respiratory arrest.

So they're the idiots using dry ice in tiny areas?

Carbon dioxide!!!

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 30, 2025 11:44 AM (NFX2v)

234 > I've always maintained that it's much easier to get warm when it's cold than it is to get cool when it's hot.
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Yea, I think this is true.

During this "heatwave" we've had, I would take a small spray bottle of ice water with me while on the tractor to keep cool. The problem; it'd get hot in about 30 minutes. But the water has a cooling effect as it evaporates.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 30, 2025 11:44 AM (Q4IgG)

235 Europeans dying for lack of AC.....Think of it as evolution in action.

Here's your Darwin award.

Posted by: Silentbrick at July 30, 2025 11:44 AM (FaUhp)

236 I think you're right. But there are a lot of noisemakers on the other side. Especially the housing market who are stagnant.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 30, 2025 11:43 AM (mzM2O)

Yeah, it's pressure coming from one side or another, and as always, when it comes to economics, nobody really knows how it all works.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 30, 2025 11:45 AM (dGCAG)

237 The thing about being too cold is:

1) You can turn down the AC.

2) Wear more clothes.

Too hot, you are kind of fucked at a certain point.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 30, 2025 11:38 AM

And this is why I'm heading for NH and not TX, as much as I enjoy visiting y'all. I like cold weather.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 30, 2025 11:45 AM (dPfyF)

238 By the way, even in places that are air conditioned in France, it sort of sucks. Yes...it's cooler, but not that amazing blast of refreshing cold air that we in the 1st World (America) have in abundance.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at July 30, 2025 11:45 AM (flKlo)

239 I've always maintained that it's much easier to get warm when it's cold than it is to get cool when it's hot.

Posted by: Bulg at July 30, 2025 11:41 AM

I agree. I just got done weeding and spraying outside before it hits 100 degrees here in NE Texas and I am still sweating after coming in the house 15 minutes ago. We set the AC on 76 all summer long and turn the heat down to 66 in the winter. If it gets really cold in the winter we will crank the heat up to 68 for a bit.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 30, 2025 11:45 AM (e5NfL)

240 There's a reason the heat and the humidity play such a big part in southern gothic tales. It's almost as if it's a character in the story.

What movie set in the south doesn't have a fat man in a suit sweating profusely?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 30, 2025 11:45 AM (mzM2O)

241 Cool. A pretty, young woman just won a car on "The Price is Right."

I wonder if the tax rate on that is the same 37% as it is with gambling winnings?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 30, 2025 11:45 AM (Q3wU3)

242 My favorite ED girl is back, but her sleeves are connected to her sweater this time.
I had learned I like free-floating sleeves.
Posted by: From about That Time at July 30, 2025 11:44 AM (n4GiU)

I imagine her removing the sleeves...slowly...

Posted by: Diogenes at July 30, 2025 11:46 AM (W/lyH)

243 Don't want to offend anyone but if I had to pick my poison I would choose NYC over Chicago by a landslide.
Posted by: polynikes

Wait, for targeting?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 30, 2025 11:46 AM (mlg/3)

244 Wife and I like our bedroom very cool. We even open the windows in the winter sometimes. We have plenty of blankets.

Posted by: Mike, Possibly white, at Werk at July 30, 2025 11:46 AM (PSEDc)

245
Yes...it's cooler, but not that amazing blast of refreshing cold air that we in the 1st World (America) have in abundance.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at July 30, 2025 11:45 AM (flKlo)

__________

Just like everything in Europe. Mingy. Underpowered. Substandard.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 30, 2025 11:46 AM (HZi96)

246 Huh. That is true. Never thought about it but it is easier to get warm when you are freezing than it is to cool down when you are sweltering. Especially if the humidity is working against you on the heat.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 30, 2025 11:47 AM (bss/y)

247 219 Don't want to offend anyone but if I had to pick my poison I would choose NYC over Chicago by a landslide.
Posted by: polynikes

Chicago is a market and mfg town for the Midwest and as that region has faded economically, the importance of Chicago and IL in general have declined. A lesser Detroit if you will.

Both LA and NYC still retain port facilities that make them important for intl trade although LA as a port due to a shift of mfg to Asia, has overshadowed NY's ports in tonnage.

Posted by: whig at July 30, 2025 11:47 AM (ctrM5)

248 What movie set in the south doesn't have a fat man in a suit sweating profusely?
Posted by: AlaBAMA

In a seersucker suit.

Posted by: Bulg at July 30, 2025 11:47 AM (77rzZ)

249 The 'Nati, New Riot Capital of the World, is the same latitude as Valencia, Spain.

So there.

Posted by: Bad Andrew at July 30, 2025 11:47 AM (6qf1m)

250 The thing about being too cold is:

1) You can turn down the AC.

2) Wear more clothes.

Too hot, you are kind of fucked at a certain point.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Learned that from a retired post man. (Carrier when they walked)

You can put enough on to stay warm, but you can't remove enough to stay cool.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 30, 2025 11:43 AM (Q3wU3)

Yeah, when it comes to hotel rooms, I pay you to keep the room at a temp below 70 in the summer. I don't care how much it costs you, your bed is certainly not worth what I paid.

Or your shower.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 30, 2025 11:47 AM (dGCAG)

251 Air conditioning is what those unsophisticated Americans do! Europeans swelter like civilized people.

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That explains a lot of their stinky body odor.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Marshall Plan is MORTE! at July 30, 2025 11:47 AM (eBrCM)

252 Growing up, my sister and I had our rooms on the second floor of the house. Best we had for cooling was a box fan.

After we moved out, my parents moved their room into my sister's old room. They couldn't believe how hot it got up there, and immediately installed an AC unit.

Last time I was home, made a joke about baking in my room. My father said he still feels guilty about it. I said not to worry, I won't hold it against him when I put him in a home...

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 30, 2025 11:47 AM (KbCG3)

253 But the water has a cooling effect as it evaporates.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 30, 2025

***
Only if the humidity is below a certain point. I splash myself with water as I walk in the soggy early morning, and it starts to cool me a little. Then the water dries -- I'm not sure it can be said to evaporate -- and I'm right back where I started.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 30, 2025 11:47 AM (omVj0)

254 @227 Fans with misters attached seem to help a lot to keep cool(er) at the beach, at decks and outdoor cafes.

Posted by: Ron Burgundy at July 30, 2025 11:47 AM (36PRH)

255 The first time I ever went to the Austin convention center it was August and hot as hades outside. But the AC in the convention center was a wonder. So powerful that sometimes to open an external door took effort due to pressure difference and the cold air would blow outside… a jet of cold air you could feel several feet outside. Inside it was almost cold; I loved it. Wouldn’t want to pay their cooling bill however

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 30, 2025 11:47 AM (2TicB)

256 Don't want to offend anyone but if I had to pick my poison I would choose NYC over Chicago by a landslide.
Posted by: polynikes

Wait, for targeting?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 30, 2025 11:46 AM (mlg/3)

Hah

No to live . But again its picking your poison. Chicago has already elected two Mamdanis.

Posted by: polynikes at July 30, 2025 11:48 AM (VofaG)

257 Danged if that feisty little two-legged hero dog didn't jump and down on the man's chest with just his two hind legs.. Instinctively, with no formal medical training or prior experience.
Posted by: muldoon

Please don't publicize this. People will be amputating healthy front legs from all their little demon-dogs!

Posted by: Chihuahua Benevolence Society at July 30, 2025 11:48 AM (G5+As)

258 To outwit the browser-crasher on my phone, I hit "comment" and "open in new window". No ads, no crash.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at July 30, 2025 11:48 AM (CCIBw)

259 When I stay in a hotel in the summer, I crank the temps way down, like down to 65 degrees, and sleep under the comforter pretending that it is Winter.

Posted by: toby928 at July 30, 2025 11:48 AM (jc0TO)

260 One small, maybe 5K BTU window AC will keep a small apartment cool with the addition of a couple ceiling fans turning on reverse (blowing up). I had a set up with the AC in the kitchen, and a fan in the living room and bedroom. Very low energy cost increase, keeping the fans on a low setting.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 30, 2025 11:49 AM (gm9Sb)

261 Wife and I like our bedroom very cool. We even open the windows in the winter sometimes. We have plenty of blankets.
Posted by: Mike, Possibly white

Supposedly coolth is better for sleep.

(And, yes, "coolth" is a word.)

Posted by: Bulg at July 30, 2025 11:49 AM (77rzZ)

262 Don't want to offend anyone but if I had to pick my poison I would choose NYC over Chicago by a landslide.
Posted by: polynikes

Wait, for targeting?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 30, 2025 11:46 AM (mlg/3)

If so, I have a list.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 30, 2025 11:49 AM (dGCAG)

263 Just like everything in Europe. Mingy. Underpowered. Substandard.

When they design appliances, I think they figure out what the minimum acceptable performance is, and then reduce it by 20%.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 30, 2025 11:49 AM (Riz8t)

264 I agree. I just got done weeding and spraying outside before it hits 100 degrees here in NE Texas and I am still sweating after coming in the house 15 minutes ago. We set the AC on 76 all summer long and turn the heat down to 66 in the winter. If it gets really cold in the winter we will crank the heat up to 68 for a bit.
Posted by: Mister Scott

The "break" line is 75.
76 and I'm still sweating.
75 and I an comfortable to cool. Mainly because of the way thermostats work. They go up 2 degrees and 2 below where it is set.

So, 76 + 2 is 78 when it comes on.
75 = 77 when it comes on. 75 takes it down to 73.
Definite comfort level difference.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 30, 2025 11:49 AM (Q3wU3)

265 All I'm saying is that I love the fact that the A/C is set at 69, I'm looking forward to stuffed pizza for lunch, and I can still hang a towel on it. Life is good regardless of the haters.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 30, 2025 11:49 AM (qwx/I)

266 I've yet to see Trump be wrong on the economy. You'd think Powell would realize that Tariffs work and were invented for a reason. Idiot.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 30, 2025 11:38 AM (mzM2O)

Powell is breaking the EU's knees by forcing them to borrow money at 5%, when they borrowed a huge amount in short term bills at 0.5% from Yellen and have to roll them over because there is no way they can pay them back.

I believe that is the hammer that made Von der Leyen agree. (I believe the Anvil was Tulsi going to Eurolandia with a dossier of who all the bad girls and boys were in 2020)

Posted by: Kindltot at July 30, 2025 11:49 AM (D7oie)

267 I work in a SCIF for the Fed Leviathan. It's cold. Really really cold. I have a jacket I wear but sometimes I need a parka. There is a row of racks with hundreds of drives in them. The back of them blow hot air. I'll stand near that to warm up occasionally.

My condo A/C is ancient garbage and is barely adequate. Beats no AC at all.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at July 30, 2025 11:49 AM (sAmhv)

268 222
My father once took a train from Chicago to New York because flying was risky. He said he would as soon have flown through thunderstorms with ice on the wings and an engine on fire rather than take a train again.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
========
There is a hilarious "Coach" episode where Luther had a dream about a plane disaster and so he cancels the team's plane reservations and substitutes train tickets for travel to an away game.

Posted by: whig at July 30, 2025 11:50 AM (ctrM5)

269 But ooh, whoa-oh
It's a cruel summer with you

Oh, man, that takes me back. I had a massive crush on Bananarama back in the day.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 30, 2025 11:50 AM (Dg2sF)

270 Wife and I like our bedroom very cool. We even open the windows in the winter sometimes. We have plenty of blankets.

That's very Germanic.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 30, 2025 11:50 AM (Riz8t)

271 All I'm saying is that I love the fact that the A/C is set at 69, I'm looking forward to stuffed pizza for lunch, and I can still hang a towel on it. Life is good regardless of the haters.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 30, 2025 11:49 AM (qwx/I)

Why would you hang a towel on your pizza?

Or did you mean your AC unit?

Posted by: BurtTC at July 30, 2025 11:50 AM (dGCAG)

272 What movie set in the south doesn't have a fat man in a suit sweating profusely?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 30, 2025

***
Rooms in Body Heat in 1981 did not seem to have A/C, and the same was true of A Time to Kill in the '90s with Sandra Bullock.

In real life, though, Larry McMurtry's home town, Archer City, did not have good working A/C in either the town diner or in his two bookstores. I never left a bookstore so fast in my life.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 30, 2025 11:51 AM (omVj0)

273 Know what else raises the ambient temperature outdoors in cities? FIRES. Fires set by arsehole invaders hell-bent on destroying the property of the citizens that belong in the country being invaded.

Has the annual vehicle conflagration begun in France this year?

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 30, 2025 11:51 AM (O7YUW)

274 @227 Fans with misters attached seem to help a lot to keep cool(er) at the beach, at decks and outdoor cafes.
Posted by: Ron Burgundy at July 30, 2025 11:47 AM (36PRH)

I just bought a small Ryobi portable clip on misting fan for my golf cart. Basically useless. I need one that is 3x as big which they do make.

Posted by: polynikes at July 30, 2025 11:51 AM (VofaG)

275 A hotel room in Iraklion, Crete where I stayed with my wife had a system where you could not leave the power on in your room if you went out. You had to to put your room key card in a receptacle to turn the power on: so no AC if you left the room, never mind leaving a light on.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 30, 2025 11:51 AM (wZlsB)

276 The first time I ever went to the Austin convention center it was August and hot as hades outside. But the AC in the convention center was a wonder. So powerful that sometimes to open an external door took effort due to pressure difference and the cold air would blow outside… a jet of cold air you could feel several feet outside. Inside it was almost cold; I loved it. Wouldn’t want to pay their cooling bill however
Posted by: LinusVanPelt

They could make it rain and possibly snow in the Houston Astrodome due to the temp differential from the roof area to the floor.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 30, 2025 11:51 AM (Q3wU3)

277 The remediation continues:

@tax
Two highly placed IRS leaders were put on administrative leave Tuesday, according to a person familiar with the situation.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 30, 2025 11:52 AM (mlg/3)

278 Europeans are cucks. Of course they die when it’s hot.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 30, 2025 11:52 AM (Vvm2m)

279 258 To outwit the browser-crasher on my phone, I hit "comment" and "open in new window". No ads, no crash.
Posted by: NaughtyPine
=========
If you have Android phone, put brave on it. No crashes (brave used de googled chrome). Same for desktop. As a plus, Brave is one of the most privacy friendly browsers.

If you use ios, the problem is Safari regardless of what browser you pick because they are all skins over underlying Safari code.

Posted by: whig at July 30, 2025 11:53 AM (ctrM5)

280 But ooh, whoa-oh
It's a cruel summer with you

Oh, man, that takes me back. I had a massive crush on Bananarama back in the day.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 30, 2025 11:50 AM

Bananarama >>> Banana Splits Guy

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 30, 2025 11:53 AM (dPfyF)

281 Our house just had an attic fan which we lived with for over a year before we got a window unit.

Houston circa 1959...parents and five kids in a two bedroom house, no A/C. Attic fan was it. Wake up in the morning with dew on the screens. Houses so close you could hear the neighbor fart. Pregnant Momma wanted a bigger house, Dad was told to stick a window unit in to make this one saleable.

Once he put it in none of us wanted to move.

Posted by: DanMan at July 30, 2025 11:54 AM (8uzBS)

282 277 The remediation continues:

@tax
Two highly placed IRS leaders were put on administrative leave Tuesday, according to a person familiar with the situation.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 30, 2025 11:52 AM (mlg/3)

-----
Don't everyone thank me at once for that hot tip!

Posted by: Anonymous official familiar with the matter at July 30, 2025 11:54 AM (36PRH)

283 My car hasn't had AC for years. I even had the AC "fixed" a couple of times. The "fix" lasted for a few days, and then the AC died again. Apparently that's a thing with old Subarus.

So I gave up and just drive with the windows down when it's hot.

Posted by: Bulg at July 30, 2025 11:54 AM (77rzZ)

284 Powell is breaking the EU's knees by forcing them to borrow money at 5%, when they borrowed a huge amount in short term bills at 0.5% from Yellen and have to roll them over because there is no way they can pay them back.

I believe that is the hammer that made Von der Leyen agree. (I believe the Anvil was Tulsi going to Eurolandia with a dossier of who all the bad girls and boys were in 2020)
Posted by: Kindltot at July 30, 2025 11:49 AM (D7oie)

Very interesting take!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 30, 2025 11:54 AM (mzM2O)

285 I just bought a small Ryobi portable clip on misting fan for my golf cart. Basically useless. I need one that is 3x as big which they do make.
Posted by: polynikes

Sits on a five gallon bucket and runs off the 18v battery system.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 30, 2025 11:54 AM (Q3wU3)

286 I keep the a/c at 74. Below that I start getting cold. Mind you I live in a dry climate. So humidity removal is not an issue. If I lived in Florida I’d have that fucker set to 65 and running 24/7.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 30, 2025 11:55 AM (Vvm2m)

287 My old Polish landlady in Erie had a huge exhaust fan in the attic

===
My house was pretty much designed and built by the guy I bot it from, a professional maintenance engineer, in mid-sixties. Must not have been fond of heat, he put in a whole house fan. Still there, and I use it.
By mid seventies, he upgraded to built in a/c, but because of the house design he put in two separate a/c systems, one for the upstairs three bedrooms, the other the downstairs living areas. Two full size commercial systems. The master bedroom downstairs gets blowed by both.
I've had to replace each system. Cost some bucks.

Posted by: From about That Time at July 30, 2025 11:55 AM (n4GiU)

288 A lot of movies and plays set in the South are all nostalgic for the sweltering heat. We still have the heat, but most everyone nowadays has air conditioning.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 30, 2025 11:55 AM (wZlsB)

289
🎵All around me people lookin' half dead
walkin' on the sidewalk, hotter than a match head

Posted by: Don Black. Message: at July 30, 2025 11:55 AM (AOsQT)

290 I wonder if the tax rate on that is the same 37% as it is with gambling winnings?
Posted by: rickb223 at July 30, 2025 11:45 AM (Q3wU3

I just checked.

Game Show winnings are treated as taxable income.

Canadian lottery winnings are tax free, So we can keep enough to flee elsewhere....

Posted by: Stateless - HAPPY NOT HOMELESS! - New Life Creation 15.5 % at July 30, 2025 11:55 AM (jvJvP)

291 Don't want to offend anyone but if I had to pick my poison I would choose NYC over Chicago by a landslide.
Posted by: polynikes

Wait, for targeting?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 30, 2025 11:46 AM (mlg/3)

If so, I have a list.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 30, 2025 11:49 AM (dGCAG)

I love playing NukeMap.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 30, 2025 11:55 AM (W/lyH)

292 My car hasn't had AC for years. I even had the AC "fixed" a couple of times. The "fix" lasted for a few days, and then the AC died again. Apparently that's a thing with old Subarus.

So I gave up and just drive with the windows down when it's hot.
Posted by: Bulg

Had a 78 3/4 ton F-250 that came from the factory withOUT ac. But I was 22 at the time.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 30, 2025 11:56 AM (Q3wU3)

293 Alright kids. Be good. Fingers crossed for the fed to unfuck themselves.

I'm going to lunch.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 30, 2025 11:56 AM (mzM2O)

294 So I gave up and just drive with the windows down when it's hot.

The problem with this is the same as foregoing AC in homes. Cars today aren’t designed to be used without closing the windows. Driving down the highway at 75mph with the windows open it feels like my Town Car is about to take flight.

I wonder if there’s an aftermarket wing vent install…

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 30, 2025 11:56 AM (EXyHK)

295 I saw a population graph for phoenix, noted up tick when swap coolers were invented then pop went logarithmic with air conditioning.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 30, 2025 11:56 AM (HDP0k)

296 @283 - My Wrangler never had A/C. It’s not so bad as long as you can keep moving.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher, phoning it in at July 30, 2025 11:57 AM (YNVKB)

297 My AC is set at 80 degrees Fahrenheit. I get chilled much below that. The cats like it warmer, too.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 30, 2025 11:57 AM (wZlsB)

298 127,000 fewer feral employees so far.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 30, 2025 11:57 AM (uqNg8)

299 Heh. Poor Euros dying of heat. I NEVER hear of this happening in that glorious steambath called The Philippine Islands.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at July 30, 2025 11:57 AM (hirWM)

300
With that, it's time for me to go out and work i. The yard. 86, feels like 95.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 30, 2025 11:57 AM (HZi96)

301 The thing with cars is the sun will bake you if the windows are open. With ac it allows tinted windows to stay closed and keep the sun off you.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 30, 2025 11:57 AM (Vvm2m)

302 They could make it rain and possibly snow in the Houston Astrodome due to the temp differential from the roof area to the floor.

true. maintained 72 degrees year round in that space, the A/C capacity was incredible

Posted by: DanMan at July 30, 2025 11:58 AM (8uzBS)

303 My neighbor's dog is a lot happier considering the heat. Dog's human was concerned about the dogs comfort, and I suggested a wet bandana. Told him about the old towel around the neck trick in Vietnam. He got a couple of those railroad hankies, ties them up around doggie's neck so she looks cute, and gives them a little soaking of ice water.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 30, 2025 11:58 AM (gm9Sb)

304 Bananarama >>> Banana Splits Guy
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 30, 2025 11:53 AM (dPfyF)

There's one poster I do not miss.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 30, 2025 11:58 AM (Dg2sF)

305 @284

>>Very interesting take!

I'm of two minds on interest rates, lowering rates will provide a jolt to the economy but that will also encourage people to take on more debt.

It's a vicious catch-22.

I'm leaning towards keeping rates where they are.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 30, 2025 11:58 AM (XV/Pl)

306 The temp in cheap hotel rooms is pre-set at such a low setting in order to keep the corpse under the mattress from starting to stink...

Posted by: muldoon at July 30, 2025 11:58 AM (poXs5)

307 No to live . But again its picking your poison. Chicago has already elected two Mamdanis.
Posted by: polynikes

Never visited Chicago but I imagine it's easier to escape the urban sprawl for a few minutes there than from NYC.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 30, 2025 11:58 AM (mlg/3)

308 Hate it when pop goes logarithmic.

Posted by: Wut? at July 30, 2025 11:58 AM (nUA2B)

309 I've experienced getting into a car @ -20 in the winter and north of 115 in the summer.

I'll take the 115.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 30, 2025 11:58 AM (tT6L1)

310 OK, work day is over. Hope you all stay frosty.

RMBS, shoot me an e-mail later this week about range time, if you're still free.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 30, 2025 11:58 AM (Dg2sF)

311 Most of the problem in Europe is that the productive, freedom-loving people among them emigrated to USA, leaving behind the toadies, the regimented losers who look to government for their permission to breathe. It got worse after the war with the brain drain, as most of Europe was in ruins.

Posted by: Females In Charge Is Also A Bad Idea at July 30, 2025 11:59 AM (G5+As)

312 283 My car hasn't had AC for years. I even had the AC "fixed" a couple of times. The "fix" lasted for a few days, and then the AC died again. Apparently that's a thing with old Subarus.

So I gave up and just drive with the windows down when it's hot.
Posted by: Bulg
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Heat and humidity around DC can be a stone cold bitch in the summer.

Posted by: whig at July 30, 2025 11:59 AM (ctrM5)

313 I've seen these little machines advertised on YouTube that cool a room 30 degrees in minutes.

I wonder if thise work.

Doesn't matter much. In my part of Canada, I have the AC running maybe 3 months.

Posted by: Stateless - HAPPY NOT HOMELESS! - New Life Creation 15.5 % at July 30, 2025 11:59 AM (jvJvP)

314 306 The temp in cheap hotel rooms is pre-set at such a low setting in order to keep the corpse under the mattress from starting to stink...
Posted by: muldoon at July 30, 2025 11:58 AM (poXs5)
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Or to keep the mystery wet spots and stains on the carpet from reeking.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at July 30, 2025 12:00 PM (36PRH)

315 Pretty sure heat is causing large swathes of baked Spaniards based on temperature maps -

https://tinyurl.com/2vxkrxry

Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 30, 2025 12:00 PM (Dv3i1)

316 I grew up in a no AC house. Maryland summers are hot and muggy. We owned many fans. Dad finally broke down and got a window unit for the living room.

Since then, all my domiciles (except for Army ones) have been AC.

Here in Colorado it gets hot AF in summer, but the air is bone dry. I'm running a humidifier inside here, and struggling to get it to 40% RH.

Also, we are transitioning from Green Summer to Brown Summer.

Posted by: Don Black. Message: at July 30, 2025 12:00 PM (AOsQT)

317 My favorite comments from Europeans (aka stereotypes) are that Americans don't have brick houses and we're so violent. The first is ignorance. The second is jealous. That stabber in a Walmart was apprehended by a civilian with a gun instead of walking away while everyone waited for the police.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at July 30, 2025 12:01 PM (CCIBw)

318 MP4, I saw this the other day and thought of you.

https://tinyurl.com/4emdvejt

Posted by: Bulg at July 30, 2025 12:01 PM (77rzZ)

319 Somehow the high country in Spain is the hottest.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 30, 2025 12:01 PM (uqNg8)

320 Huh. That is true. Never thought about it but it is easier to get warm when you are freezing than it is to cool down when you are sweltering. Especially if the humidity is working against you on the heat.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 30, 2025 11:47 AM (bss/y)

Per my grandfather, eventually the only thing you have left to take off is your skin, and then you'd have to walk around in just your bones.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 30, 2025 12:02 PM (D7oie)

321 RMBS, shoot me an e-mail later this week about range time, if you're still free.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 30, 2025 11:58 AM

Will do.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 30, 2025 12:02 PM (dPfyF)

322 I've experienced getting into a car @ -20 in the winter and north of 115 in the summer.

I'll take the 115.
Posted by: blake

I follow a couple of guys on YouTube who do winter camping in Alaska in home built "cabins" on trucks and trailers. Wood burning stoves. Diesel heaters. Diesel trucks running 24/7 for a week sometimes when they are inside the Arctic Circle.

Something to be said about not needing artificial refrigeration.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 30, 2025 12:03 PM (Q3wU3)

323 Heat and humidity around DC can be a stone cold bitch in the summer.

Posted by: whig

Yep. A miserable place this time of year. It's like combining an oven with a humidifier.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at July 30, 2025 12:03 PM (sAmhv)

324 India earned a 25% tariff.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 30, 2025 12:03 PM (uqNg8)

325 313 I've seen these little machines advertised on YouTube that cool a room 30 degrees in minutes.

I wonder if thise work.

Doesn't matter much. In my part of Canada, I have the AC running maybe 3 months.
Posted by: Stateless

Claims like that require proof which those hucksters do not have.

FWIW, you can use forced air exhaust fans that suck through external evaporative pads that use the cool ground water to precool the air before entering the building.

Farm animals in confined spaces use such even in the winter as animals confined in spaces build up a lot of heat even in an insulated building.

Posted by: whig at July 30, 2025 12:04 PM (ctrM5)

326 Pretty sure heat is causing large swathes of baked Spaniards based on temperature maps -
https://tinyurl.com/2vxkrxry
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 30, 2025 12:00 PM (Dv3i1)

I saw The Baked Spaniards open for The Grateful Dead at the Great Smoke In in Kingston, Jamaica in 1985.

Lots of folks were burning hay that day.

Posted by: Old Fart Boomer Deadhead at July 30, 2025 12:04 PM (G3G8A)

327 The power is still on in Spain.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 30, 2025 12:05 PM (uqNg8)

328 Fahrenheit is a human civilization based temperature system. Where civilization exists the coldest temperature is nominally 0 and the hottest temperature is nominally 100.

Celsius is arbitrarily based on the range of the freezing and boiling points of water, divided by 100.

Posted by: Minuteman at July 30, 2025 12:05 PM (i0/07)

329 Never visited Chicago but I imagine it's easier to escape the urban sprawl for a few minutes there than from NYC.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 30, 2025 11:58 AM (mlg/3)

Actually it's very easy to escape NYC. The Hudson valley is just a short trip out of Grand Central and it's beautiful. Or at least it used to be.

Posted by: polynikes at July 30, 2025 12:05 PM (VofaG)

330 I wonder if it would ever get so hot in Europe that nudity is allowed, since AC after all is forbidden. You don't want people to die, do you?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 30, 2025 12:05 PM (Dv3i1)

331 Here in Colorado it gets hot AF in summer, but the air is bone dry. I'm running a humidifier inside here, and struggling to get it to 40% RH.

Also, we are transitioning from Green Summer to Brown Summer.
Posted by: Don Black

Current temp in North Texas is 94 degrees with 42% humidity for a 99 degree feel like. And it's only 11:05 am.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 30, 2025 12:05 PM (Q3wU3)

332 328 Fahrenheit is a human civilization based temperature system. Where civilization exists the coldest temperature is nominally 0 and the hottest temperature is nominally 100.

Celsius is arbitrarily based on the range of the freezing and boiling points of water, divided by 100.
Posted by: Minuteman
========
I would tend to agree. Units are units and whether they are useful enough depends on their day to day practicality over time by society.

Posted by: whig at July 30, 2025 12:07 PM (ctrM5)

333 Celsius is arbitrarily based on the range of the freezing and boiling points of water, divided by 100.
Posted by: Minuteman

Which is why Celsius is appropriate for, say, chemistry, but not weather reports.

Fahrenheit:
0 --really cold
100 -- really hot

Celsius:
0 -- kinda cold
100 -- you're dead

Posted by: Bulg at July 30, 2025 12:08 PM (77rzZ)

334 Actually it's very easy to escape NYC. The Hudson valley is just a short trip out of Grand Central and it's beautiful. Or at least it used to be.
Posted by: polynikes
========
Beware of Sleepy Hollow. Rumor has it that a headless horseman runs amuck there.

Posted by: whig at July 30, 2025 12:08 PM (ctrM5)

335 I wonder if it would ever get so hot in Europe that nudity is allowed, since AC after all is forbidden. You don't want people to die, do you?
Posted by: Chuck Martel

From what I've seen, I would not want to see most European women nude. Well, Eva Vlaardingerbroek excepted.

Posted by: Bulg at July 30, 2025 12:09 PM (77rzZ)

336 Thx CBD. Saw a video on Facebook of an English guy mocking his country for whining about a heatwave of 78° fahrenheit. He said he's been in the the US many times and people here keep AC at 78°

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 30, 2025 12:09 PM (A7hgX)

337 I have a swamp cooler on the roof, 4 fans and a window A/C unit. I'm able to keep the house somewhere around 72 even when it gets into the 100's outside.

Posted by: Reforger at July 30, 2025 12:09 PM (TOnMl)

338 I saw a population graph for phoenix, noted up tick when swap coolers were invented then pop went logarithmic with air conditioning.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 30, 2025 11:56 AM (HDP0k)

I had a co-worker who lived in AZ when she was first married, and they didn't have AC, so they would soak and wring out the sheets when they went to bed to cool a bit, and they would be dry as a bone when they woke up
She also said it was essential to put plugs in the sink traps in the summer because the P-bend would dry out from evaporation and the sewer smell would get into the house.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 30, 2025 12:09 PM (D7oie)

339 A hotel room in Iraklion, Crete where I stayed with my wife had a system where you could not leave the power on in your room if you went out. You had to to put your room key card in a receptacle to turn the power on: so no AC if you left the room, never mind leaving a light on.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit

I was in a room like that in Abu Dhabi. I found that a business card stuffed in the slot worked just as well for keeping the lights and AC on.

Posted by: Thomans Paine at July 30, 2025 12:09 PM (Vfq+S)

340 .
NOOD

Ace is up

NOOD!

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 30, 2025 12:10 PM (O7YUW)

341
Nood -- King Tampon III has the vapours

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at July 30, 2025 12:10 PM (xG4kz)

342 I guess the tsunami was a bust. No screaming headlines about death and destruction.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 30, 2025 12:10 PM (E23dO)

343 1 The thing with cars is the sun will bake you if the windows are open. With ac it allows tinted windows to stay closed and keep the sun off you.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 30, 2025

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Window tinting, yes. Also, when you park, try for shade, even if you have to walk a little ways, and put up sun shades front and back.

When I visited the surgeon on Monday, I drove under the building into the garage. There were open-to-the-public free parking spaces all over, and a door into the lobby right there. I cannot imagine why people would park out in the sizzling lot when they have shade available.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 30, 2025 12:10 PM (omVj0)

344 Which is why Celsius is appropriate for, say, chemistry, but not weather reports.

Fahrenheit:
0 --really cold
100 -- really hot

Celsius:
0 -- kinda cold
100 -- you're dead
Posted by: Bulg

Easier to do maths on metric system calculations rather than the older Imperial units of measure. But in the same way, those old Imperial units were based on human activities for centuries to get their utility. But they make math harder for scientific calculations especially without calculators.

Posted by: whig at July 30, 2025 12:10 PM (ctrM5)

345 Here in Colorado it gets hot AF in summer, but the air is bone dry.

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It was 102 yesterday and with my swamp cooler, I was not uncomfortable.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Lying Dogface Pony Soldier at July 30, 2025 12:10 PM (L/fGl)

346 Posted by: whig at July 30, 2025 12:08 PM (ctrM5)

Heh used to go there a lot to visit girlfriend's parents. Used to be called Tarrytown . They changed the name to Sleepy Hollow to capitalize on the story.

Posted by: polynikes at July 30, 2025 12:11 PM (VofaG)

347 Something to be said about not needing artificial refrigeration.

I’ve told this story here before, but homemade ice cream, before refrigeration, required crank-type ice cream makers. After 1926, recipes for crank-made ice cream started to disappear in favor of just making it in your home refrigerator/freezer. They didn’t experience a resurgence until the sixties (moderately) and mainly the seventies.

But the technique of not cranking, just freezing, was already known. I have a recipe from a 1916 Columbus, North Dakota, cookbook that just says to put the mix into a can and put it outside.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 30, 2025 12:12 PM (EXyHK)

348 @329 I live in the mid Hudson valley. It's still beautiful but it's been overrun by NYC refugees voting and acting the same

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 30, 2025 12:12 PM (A7hgX)

349 337 I have a swamp cooler on the roof, 4 fans and a window A/C unit. I'm able to keep the house somewhere around 72 even when it gets into the 100's outside.
Posted by: Reforger
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Works in dry climates. But a ground loop geothermal a/c unit works better if a bit pricey still. And if you have the ground to install it. Earth stays a pretty constant chilled temperature underground a piece.

Open loop work well too but you have to have paired wells or a pond to act as the heat sink.

Posted by: whig at July 30, 2025 12:14 PM (ctrM5)

350 Heh used to go there a lot to visit girlfriend's parents. Used to be called Tarrytown . They changed the name to Sleepy Hollow to capitalize on the story.
Posted by: polynikes
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Her name wasn't the fair Katrina I hope?

Posted by: whig at July 30, 2025 12:15 PM (ctrM5)

351 Thermal Shock in winter has made most of the Northern Hemisphere uninhabitable and has led to the deaths of hundreds of millions as they enter nice warm houses from frigid snowy temperatures.

I propose some thermal shock. How about firebombing these Soviet gulags and liberating the surrounding countryside?

Posted by: The MewTwix at July 30, 2025 12:19 PM (L2JX1)

352 Heat and humidity around DC can be a stone cold bitch in the summer.

Posted by: whig

Yep. A miserable place this time of year. It's like combining an oven with a humidifier.
Posted by: Puddleglum

Before AC the Brits paid their envoys hardship rates/bonuses for DC postings.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 30, 2025 12:19 PM (HDP0k)

353
The people who die in European heat waves are disproportionately old people, who are drawing retirement payments and medical benefits, but not longer paying into the system. The same people Euro governments are throwing into the street to free up housing for feral illegal immigrants.

You might reasonably think that the deal would be to pay into the system when young and healthy, and be paid back when old and sick. Think again.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at July 30, 2025 12:20 PM (ufCEJ)

354 >I guess the tsunami was a bust. No screaming headlines about death and destruction.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

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I think Russia got the worst of it
not so much Hawaii and west coast

Posted by: Don Black. Message: at July 30, 2025 12:21 PM (AOsQT)

355 Speaking as someone who's experienced unrelenting 90+ temps for the past 6 weeks, A/C is good to have - but set at 74 or so. Mama Publius is in the hospital currently, and they're at 72 or less, and it's too cold.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at July 30, 2025 12:45 PM (w6EFb)

356 The main culprit? Green energy frauds.

Posted by: Mr Green Jeans at July 30, 2025 01:08 PM (hv057)

357 My dad spent WWII fighting in China/Burma/India. He learned what 'hot' meant. He swore he would not be hot if he could help it.

He saved up his meager wages from his blue collar job and installed air conditioning in our small Oregon house. We were the only 'cool' family in our neighborhood in the summer of 1953.

Posted by: Dennis at July 30, 2025 02:13 PM (f7MQY)

358 I spent quite a bit of time in Singapore. Large retailers have wide open front doors on their buildings. They let the frigid air blow out onto the sweltering streets as an invitation to enter their capitalist paradises. It works.

Posted by: Dennis at July 30, 2025 02:18 PM (f7MQY)

359 Movie theaters way back in the day used air conditioning as a selling point. I wonder if Europe could keep the movie industry afloat by offering the same experience? That might change the movies that are released in unexpected ways, being that European sentiments are different than the summer blockbusters we support here.

Posted by: Semper Why at July 30, 2025 02:36 PM (aPSLh)

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