Ghislaine Maxwell: I Will Testify Before Congress But Only If I'm Granted Immunity

I assume she means immunity for anything she tells Congress, not immunity for the crimes she's already been convicted and sentenced for.

But who knows.

Ghislaine Maxwell will plead the Fifth Amendment in response to a congressional subpoena to testify about deceased sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein -- unless several demands are met, according to a Tuesday letter from her attorney obtained by The Post.
Defense lawyer David Oscar Markus told the Republican-led House Oversight Committee that his client's statements under oath "could compromise her constitutional rights, prejudice her legal claims, and potentially taint a future jury pool."
"Accordingly, our initial reaction was that Ms. Maxwell would invoke her Fifth Amendment rights and decline to testify at this time," Markus wrote to Oversight Chairman James Comer (R-Ky.).
"However, after further reflection, we would like to find a way to cooperate with Congress if a fair and safe path forward can be established."
The demands listed in the letter include two items that Markus deemed non-negotiable: a grant of immunity for Maxwell, and testifying outside the Florida federal prison where she's been serving a 20-year sentence since 2022 for conspiring with Epstein to abuse young girls.
Before that, she had spent nearly two years in a Brooklyn detention facility, which her attorney called "one of the worst" prisons in the US.
The committee should also provide copies of its questions in advance, Markus said, "to identify the relevant documentation from millions of pages that could corroborate her responses."

The media is suddenly interested in the Epstein story after years of burying it -- and, in George Stephanopolous's and Katie Couric's cases, actually partying with the pervert billionaire at his New York apartment.

And attacking anyone who discussed the case as a PizzaGate Conspiracy Theorist.

J.D. Vance noted this abrupt shift in position.

Vice President JD Vance was adamant Monday that President Trump "has nothing to hide" with respect to notorious sex predator Jeffrey Epstein, while ripping into the George W. Bush and Barack Obama administrations for their handling of the case.
"The president has been very clear. We're not shielding anything," Vance told reporters at an event in Canton, Ohio meant to promote the newly-enacted One Big Beautiful Bill Act.
"The president has directed the attorney general to release all credible information and, frankly, to go and find additional credible information related to the Jeffrey Epstein case," added the Ohio native. "He's been incredibly transparent about that stuff. But some of that stuff takes time."
Vance echoed other top officials in stressing the need to safeguard the names of victims in any additional disclosures about Epstein, who was found dead in his Manhattan jail cell Aug. 10, 2019, while awaiting federal trial on sex trafficking charges.
Before ascending to public office, Vance suggested the government was not being transparent about the late pedophile or his purported network of associates.
Mb<"For 20 years, you had Obama and George W. Bush's Department of Justice go easy on this guy. They didn't fully investigate the case," the 40-year-old charged Monday. "They didn't show any curiosity about the case, and now Donald J. Trump is asking his Department of Justice to show full transparency."
"If you want to criticize the people who aren't showing full transparency, you ought to go after the administrations that went easy on Jeffrey Epstein, the administrations that concealed this case for 20 years, and the administrations that failed to show full transparency."
In 2007, then-Miami US Attorney Alex Acosta cut a deal with Epstein allowing him to plead guilty to Florida state charges of solicitation of prostitution and procuring a minor for prostitution. Under the plea agreement, Epstein was only confined for 13 months, spending much of that period on work release.
Acosta was named Labor Secretary by Trump at the beginning of the president's first term, but resigned in July 2019, days after Epstein's arrest by federal investigators, amid an outcry over the plea deal.
"Donald J. Trump, I'm telling you, he's got nothing to hide," Vance insisted. "His administration has got nothing to hide, and that's why he's been an advocate for full transparency in this case."

In Scotland, Trump also snapped back against the suddenly-QAnon-curious media.

Trump made the point that everyone with a functioning brain has made for years: Given that the US Department of Justice actively framed Trump for being an agent of Vladimir Putin, clearly the DOJ under Biden would have released any derogatory information about Trump contained in the Epstein files.

When a reporter pressed Trump on whether he'd been briefed on his alleged inclusion in the Epstein files, he didn't hold back. He slammed former FBI Director James Comey, Attorney General Merrick Garland, and Joe Biden himself as individuals responsible for running the files. "Those files were run for four years by those people," he emphasized. "If they had anything, I assume they would've released it. Those files were run by these people; they were run by my enemy. If there was anything in there, they would've used them for the election."
Trump made clear that the files were handled by partisan operatives out to get him. "Those files were run by the worst scum on earth. They were run by Comey. They were run by Garland. They were run by Biden, and all of the people that actually ran the government, including the autopen," he said. "If they had anything, I assume they would have released it."
Pointing to the 2024 election as proof, Trump noted, "I was running against somebody that ran the files. If they had something, they would have released it."
...
Trump went on to warn about the potential for manipulated evidence, drawing a parallel to the now-debunked Steele dossier: "They can easily put something in the files that's a phony--like, as an example, Christopher Steele... wrote a... dossier. We call it the fake news dossier. And the whole thing was a fake."
Trump blasted the DOJ and other officials who controlled the Epstein records, calling them "bad, sick people," and questioned why, if damaging material existed, no one used it earlier. "Why didn't they use it when I was killing Joe? And then he gave out because he was 25 points down."

Posted by: Ace at 04:03 PM

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1 Can't blame her for wanting immunity

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 29, 2025 04:03 PM (N1tpc)

2 1st

Posted by: GF at July 29, 2025 04:03 PM (iVUs+)

3 As with everything, the media ONLY reports things that help Democrats.

If it doesn't, it gets 5 seconds and then they, (e.g. Jake Tapper) say: SEE! I REPORTED IT!

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 29, 2025 04:04 PM (N1tpc)

4 1st
Posted by: GF at July 29, 2025 04:03 PM (iVUs+)

FULL SENTENCE and I still got #1.

/spikes football

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 29, 2025 04:04 PM (N1tpc)

5 I had to bail on the last thread. Insane evil in this world

Posted by: Max Power at July 29, 2025 04:04 PM (4VvUc)

6 Trump made the point that everyone with a functioning brain has made for years: Given that the US Department of Justice actively framed Trump for being an agent of Vladimir Putin, clearly the DOJ under Biden would have released any derogatory information about Trump contained in the Epstein files.

I think this is pretty irrefutable. I still don't understand why Trump's DOJ handled this so badly, though.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 29, 2025 04:05 PM (Riz8t)

7 Ms Maxwell needs to be placed in the Big Brother house that is completely wired. And then guarded by US Marines and US Marshalls.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 29, 2025 04:05 PM (ANS4O)

8 Trump made the point that everyone with a functioning brain has made for years: Given that the US Department of Justice actively framed Trump for being an agent of Vladimir Putin, clearly the DOJ under Biden would have released any derogatory information about Trump contained in the Epstein files.
Posted by: Ace at 04:03 PM

Tump's not stupid, but he has to make obvious statements like this because pretty much all the people who still listen to the media are.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 29, 2025 04:05 PM (N1tpc)

9 I had to bail on the last thread. Insane evil in this world
Posted by: Max Power at July 29, 2025 04:04 PM (4VvUc)

I left fairly quickly because the least offensive thing I could have said was call for summary execution.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 29, 2025 04:06 PM (N1tpc)

10 Fiat justitia ruat caelum

Posted by: toby928 at July 29, 2025 04:06 PM (jc0TO)

11 I heard on the radio she was asking for “clemency,” whatever that means.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 29, 2025 04:06 PM (NWwW8)

12 Ah yes, another rake cleverly planted right where Democrats can step on it, multiple times.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 29, 2025 04:07 PM (tT6L1)

13 I heard on the radio she was asking for “clemency,” whatever that means.

Wasn't clemency the underboss in the Godfather?

Posted by: Archimedes at July 29, 2025 04:07 PM (Riz8t)

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Posted by: SMOD at July 29, 2025 04:07 PM (RHGPo)

15 I 100% back Trump on what he's saying.

We've got documentation that shows that Brennan, Clapper, and Comey were partisan liars. You can't necessarily trust anything they touched.

Posted by: Axeman at July 29, 2025 04:08 PM (krQz2)

16 Just another example of the left’s obsession with child sex trafficking.

They can’t stop talking about it. It thrills them. If the Dems in congress had their way, all the films and photos would be available for them to watch.

Because they are evil perverts.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 29, 2025 04:09 PM (W2Pud)

17 Quick, before we get caught with our hands in the cookie jar!

Posted by: Congressional committees at July 29, 2025 04:09 PM (SH3As)

18 DOGE Says It Has Helped Save Nearly $200 Billion

The Department of Government Efficiency said that 12,426 federal contracts have been terminated

Posted by: SMOD at July 29, 2025 04:09 PM (RHGPo)

19 >>I heard on the radio she was asking for “clemency,” whatever that means.

It means she wants out of prison.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 29, 2025 04:09 PM (viF8m)

20 Trump made the point that everyone with a functioning brain has made for years: Given that the US Department of Justice actively framed Trump for being an agent of Vladimir Putin, clearly the DOJ under Biden would have released any derogatory information about Trump contained in the Epstein files.
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A corollary to this is the creation of the Russian Collusion hoax. Why go to the trouble to create the Steele Dossier if President Trump was named as an Epstein client?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 29, 2025 04:09 PM (tT6L1)

21 Wasn't clemency the underboss in the Godfather?
Posted by: Archimedes

"Leave the gun. Take the cannoli."

Posted by: Bulg at July 29, 2025 04:09 PM (77rzZ)

22 Tump's not stupid, but he has to make obvious statements like this because pretty much all the people who still listen to the media are.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 29, 2025 04:05 PM (N1tpc)
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I guarantee you the media has not heard this as often was we have. And they probably are going to find it "dubious claim" or some shit.

Posted by: Axeman at July 29, 2025 04:10 PM (krQz2)

23 All most people want is the truth concerning the whole Epstein affair.

We shall see.

Posted by: The Truth Shall Set You Free at July 29, 2025 04:10 PM (3ui1p)

24 Just another example of the left’s obsession with child sex trafficking.

They can’t stop talking about it. It thrills them. If the Dems in congress had their way, all the films and photos would be available for them to watch.

Because they are evil perverts.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 29, 2025 04:09 PM (W2Pud)

Evil especially enjoys defiling innocence.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 29, 2025 04:10 PM (N1tpc)

25 I heard on the radio she was asking for “clemency,” whatever that means.

Means she couldn't get clement A or clement B.

Posted by: third time the charm at July 29, 2025 04:10 PM (TbWk/)

26 Reveal them all. I do not care who is on the pervert list.I do not care what immunity she asks for.

Actually, "pervert" is too good of a name for them. I don't want to compare them to animals, who are mostly pure at heart other than honey badgers. Or even barbarians. So IT will be their chosen pronoun, probably still too good. Lowest of the lowest pond scum amoeba excrement.

Satan probably puts them in the hottest and lowest level of hell for what they do to children.

The Bible says "millstones" around their necks. I hope that is only the beginning.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 29, 2025 04:10 PM (6PCLE)

27 I don't really want her getting immunity or anything but IF, and I mean ONLY IF, she gave up huge powerful names like senators and judes and CEOs and Archbishops, ok we get a bunch of major scalps that totally upends things, I could live with it.

Its like giving Sammy Gravano a deal if you get Joe Columbo and end the mafia family. An awful deal but you got even worse people.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 29, 2025 04:10 PM (dfIr7)

28 How will we know the truth is true at this point?

Posted by: toby928 at July 29, 2025 04:11 PM (jc0TO)

29 Does Maxwell get out in 8 years, for good behavior?
Sure, give her immunity, if she has real intel.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 29, 2025 04:11 PM (vbXSk)

30 That's Clement C.

Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at July 29, 2025 04:11 PM (SH3As)

31 Clemency doesn't mean she wants to be pope?

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 29, 2025 04:12 PM (qadd3)

32 They can’t stop talking about it. It thrills them. If the Dems in congress had their way, all the films and photos would be available for them to watch.

Because they are evil perverts.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 29, 2025 04:09 PM (W2Pud)
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They called it akin to a "QAon conspiracy" for 4 years.

They can stop talking about it. They're just not going to as long as it can be a wedge between Trump and his base.

Posted by: Axeman at July 29, 2025 04:12 PM (krQz2)

33 How will we know the truth is true at this point?
Posted by: toby928 at July 29, 2025 04:11 PM (jc0TO)
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When MSM suddenly finds a new shiny nevertrump object to point at.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 29, 2025 04:12 PM (tT6L1)

34 clemency means she has to tour with The Boss

Posted by: Black Orchid at July 29, 2025 04:12 PM (Pv3Rg)

35 The thing is, apparently the DOJ never even questioned Ghislane. They didn't depose her, they didn't interview her for criminal activity or information. They just jailed her then found a way to prosecute her without anyone else such as clients being in any way endangered or exposed.

Again, one of of Comey's daughter's jobs.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 29, 2025 04:12 PM (dfIr7)

36 I'm coming to a different conclusion regarding Trump and the Epstein Files than I originally had. I thought that this was a story that would be forgotten by this week, and that it was a distraction and a nothingburger. I was, however, mystified that Trump himself is keeping the story alive. Figures in the media think that he's insane to do so.

I now think that Trump is setting a trap, and that the MFM is going to fall for it.

We know that Trump isn't in the files, because if he were then Biden would have released it. Trump, as POTUS, knows this as well. Why, then, did Biden not release ANYTHING? Whatever the reason, Trump as POTUS knows that as well.

The media have been crowing that while Trump says that Bill Gates et al are guilty, the fact that nothing's come out yet means that they are innocent.

I now think that's not the case. Trump is baiting the media, getting them to beg for the release, thinking that it will obviously not hurt Trump. As Trump knows what the files contain, I'm guessing that the MFM and the Dems are in for a very nasty surprise. Trump is Rope-A-Doping them into a big trap.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 29, 2025 04:13 PM (lQXuB)

37 clemency means she has to tour with The Boss

Can she even play the sax?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 29, 2025 04:13 PM (dfIr7)

38 I am guessing the Cameras aimed at her Cell are already disabled?

Posted by: garrett at July 29, 2025 04:14 PM (oSEaw)

39 Clement-C is what you take when you feel a cold coming on.

Posted by: Axeman at July 29, 2025 04:14 PM (krQz2)

40 Katy Perry has finally hit rock bottom, and concerned family members should intervene before it is too late. She's dating Justine Trudeau-Castro.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 29, 2025 04:14 PM (AZFdl)

41 >> Clemency doesn't mean she wants to be pope?

It means she is now a tiny, seedless orange.

Posted by: garrett at July 29, 2025 04:15 PM (oSEaw)

42 Trump's messaging on this has been...less than ideal.

That said, the lefties and media are getting everything they claim to want.

Win-win, right?

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 29, 2025 04:15 PM (KbCG3)

43 I now think that Trump is setting a trap, and that the MFM is going to fall for it.

I think that... is more or less what is going on, but its a bit more complicated. He has managed to get the idiots on the left constantly talking about this which is hilarious because they had it pretty well smothered before this.

But I also believe that the files have been doctored significantly by the Biden administration and its a chore to get them cleaned up, so he's stalling for time.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 29, 2025 04:16 PM (dfIr7)

44 She certainly knows the tube steak boogie.

Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at July 29, 2025 04:16 PM (SH3As)

45 Democrats are PAGAN*

*Perverts Against Goodness And Normalcy

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 29, 2025 04:16 PM (ANS4O)

46
But I also believe that the files have been doctored significantly by the Biden administration and its a chore to get them cleaned up, so he's stalling for time.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 29, 2025 04:16 PM (dfIr7)

That's what I think...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 29, 2025 04:16 PM (VE6XX)

47
Darrell,
I agree with you.

People shouldn't underestimate Trump.

Posted by: fourseasons at July 29, 2025 04:17 PM (3ek7K)

48 Is Trump still in Scotland ?

Posted by: It's me donna at July 29, 2025 04:17 PM (VE6XX)

49 But I also believe that the files have been doctored significantly by the Biden administration and its a chore to get them cleaned up

I mean between DOCTOR Jill and CHEMIST Hunt, that's a lot of doctorin' going on there

probably glows by now

Posted by: Black Orchid at July 29, 2025 04:17 PM (Pv3Rg)

50 Democrats are PAGAN*

*Perverts Against Goodness And Normalcy
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 29, 2025 04:16 PM

All is proceeding as we have foreseen.

Posted by: Big Penguin at July 29, 2025 04:19 PM (0sNs1)

51 Clemency doesn't mean she wants to be pope?

It means she is now a tiny, seedless orange.
Posted by: garrett

She's married to Winston Churchill.

Posted by: Bulg at July 29, 2025 04:19 PM (77rzZ)

52 >> I also believe that the files have been doctored significantly by the Biden administration and its a chore to get them cleaned up, so he's stalling for time.

They cooked them up with Baking Soda and removed ALL the impurities.

Posted by: garrett at July 29, 2025 04:19 PM (oSEaw)

53 10 Fiat justitia ruat caelum

friend of mine had a fiat justitia. got it revved up by abarth.

Posted by: anachronda at July 29, 2025 04:19 PM (v3pYe)

54 According to the prophecy, Clement C will be the reigning Pope during the rapture.
Since the last one was #14, it's gonna be a while.

Posted by: Bensdad00 at July 29, 2025 04:19 PM (F/35S)

55
I now think that Trump is setting a trap, and that the MFM is going to fall for it.

We know that Trump isn't in the files, because if he were then Biden would have released it. Trump, as POTUS, knows this as well. Why, then, did Biden not release ANYTHING? Whatever the reason, Trump as POTUS knows that as well.

The media have been crowing that while Trump says that Bill Gates et al are guilty, the fact that nothing's come out yet means that they are innocent.

I now think that's not the case. Trump is baiting the media, getting them to beg for the release, thinking that it will obviously not hurt Trump. As Trump knows what the files contain, I'm guessing that the MFM and the Dems are in for a very nasty surprise. Trump is Rope-A-Doping them into a big trap.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 29, 2025 04:13 PM (lQXuB)

I've thought this since the beginning of the wails. But I can be pretty odd, so I am used to being alone!

They demand, he provides, you decide. I will laugh myself into near death if this is true.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 29, 2025 04:20 PM (6PCLE)

56 "Those files were run by the worst scum on earth. They were run by Comey. They were run by Garland. They were run by Biden, and all of the people that actually ran the government, including the autopen," he said. "If they had anything, I assume they would have released it."

---

That he just makes honest, common sense and logical statements to refute their B.S. is what drives them absolutely batty.

They believe they are entitled to everybody on the planet paying deference to their lies and going along with it.

Trump is deep in the barren fields of fucks given.

They are still living like it's 2020.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 29, 2025 04:20 PM (6ydKt)

57 Democrats are PAGAN*

*Perverts Against Goodness And Normalcy
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 29, 2025 04:16 PM

Read "That Hideous Strength" from C.S. Lewis.

It's the end of his "Space Trilogy" but it's the closest he's come to a dystopian future story. He absolutely nailed how evil works.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 29, 2025 04:21 PM (N1tpc)

58 What would immunity get her? It's a death sentence for her to testify before Congress. It's probably a political trap for the immunity granters.

She talked off record, right? Let it be. Pursue and punish to the nth degree on what's there and provable.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 29, 2025 04:21 PM (NFX2v)

59 This is related to the below post.
They accuse Trump of their sins.
There is Divine at work, through Trump, to save the children being abused now.
And, if you really want to know why the Democrats are all-in and so desperate to stop Trump, it's to hide the children they are feeding on now.
Maryland Father didn't just traffic adults ....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 29, 2025 04:21 PM (lDIPK)

60 Fiat Rustica...

Posted by: man at July 29, 2025 04:21 PM (tubbA)

61 50 All is proceeding as we have foreseen.
Posted by: Big Penguin

that's burgess meredith, right?

Posted by: anachronda at July 29, 2025 04:22 PM (v3pYe)

62 40 Katy Perry has finally hit rock bottom, and concerned family members should intervene before it is too late. She's dating Justine Trudeau-Castro.
==

Once a beard, always a beard.

Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at July 29, 2025 04:22 PM (0bjKf)

63 But I also believe that the files have been doctored significantly by the Biden administration and its a chore to get them cleaned up, so he's stalling for time.

I doubt it. If they had been doctored for advantage, the Dems would have released them already. The Russia Hoax is a fair indication that they were not above falsifying evidence to pin on Trump.

Posted by: bear balls and asymmetry: a case study at July 29, 2025 04:22 PM (SSEhk)

64 OT: Interesting discussion on the pocket rescission. I think Thune and Johnson told Trump they don't have the votes to pass another rescission bill, but they do have the votes to make sure no votes happen on any rescissions sent with 45 days or less in the budget year...so we could see a BIG rescission request put in about August 16 of this year that would automatically go into effect when Thune and Johnson just do nothing in the best way of doing nothing...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 29, 2025 04:23 PM (tOcjL)

65 "If they had anything, I assume they would have released it"

And ultimately this is what make the left's cries of PEDO PEDO PEDO PRESIDENT!!!! so pathetic and toothless. Well, that and how Biden was an actual, for real, by definition pedophile who groped children on national TV.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 29, 2025 04:23 PM (dfIr7)

66 The DoJ and FBI raided Melania’s panty drawer. On the most brazen, unconstitutional and dastardly act ever undertaken against a former president.

What idiot believes if they had material on Trump they would have withheld it? Please raise your hand for a free throat punch.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 29, 2025 04:23 PM (X3N4B)

67 According to the prophecy, Clement C will be the reigning Pope during the rapture.
Since the last one was #14, it's gonna be a while.
Posted by: Bensdad00

What's the highest Pope name that we're up to now? John, since there have been 23 of them?

Posted by: Bulg at July 29, 2025 04:23 PM (77rzZ)

68 Since we're talking about this....the 2007 case. The Feds pop in after Palm Beach County does a solid investigation and has Epstein absolutely nailed. The Feds immediately dump the charges on minors and give Epstein a NPA (Non Prosecution Agreement) on Federal charges, and don't tell any of this to the victims.

Then, the get Epstein in a plea on two prostitution charges with only 13 months time. Which I might add show no records of his participation in the work release program. Whether he actually showed up at the half-way house cannot be documented.

So, either he was working for intelligence at the time, or the plea was an off the books recruitment for future intelligence work.

I could give a flying feces whether Epstein killed himself or not. It was my personal desired result regardless. I would prefer candor (even if US Intelligence, or Mossad, or MI6 are compromised in the process. This shit shouldn't happen regardless of the risks in a dangerous world.

Posted by: Orson at July 29, 2025 04:23 PM (dIske)

69
Christy,

I am so happy you comment here. It makes my day to read you!

Posted by: fourseasons at July 29, 2025 04:23 PM (3ek7K)

70 OT2: I say automatically go into effect - courts will deny it, but ultimately it should win at the Supreme Court level...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 29, 2025 04:24 PM (tOcjL)

71 I doubt it. If they had been doctored for advantage, the Dems would have released them already.

No, I don't think they made up anything to use, just poisoned enough that they are nearly worthless to use against anyone else. So I mean instead of slipping Trumps name into a list of people who went to the Island or some bogus testimony about him getting foot massages next to Matt Groenig, they put in Bugs Bunny and Gandhi in the list. I mean nothing that obvious but just enough to mess up any attempt to actually et any legal use out of the documents.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 29, 2025 04:25 PM (dfIr7)

72 Frankly I'm almost as pissed off about Epstein's murder and the cover up there as I am with his real life career as a government-controlled honeypot operation.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 29, 2025 04:25 PM (xcxpd)

73 According to the prophecy, Clement C will be the reigning Pope during the rapture.
Since the last one was #14, it's gonna be a while.
Posted by: Bensdad00

If we're already up to 14, we're 8 popes past C.

Posted by: Hexadecimal Popes? at July 29, 2025 04:25 PM (cof3R)

74 Since the last one was #14, it's gonna be a while.

Pretty sure that means the rapture was two Clements ago.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 29, 2025 04:26 PM (EXyHK)

75 I saw Hexadecimal Popes open for...

Posted by: Bulg at July 29, 2025 04:26 PM (77rzZ)

76 If she were to testify in front of Congress the Dems would burn into a spectacle that would make the Kavanaugh hearings look like a children's tea party. Use what she told the Justice Department this week and keep dropping bombs.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 29, 2025 04:26 PM (A7hgX)

77 40 Katy Perry has finally hit rock bottom, and concerned family members should intervene before it is too late. She's dating Justine Trudeau-Castro.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 29, 2025 04:14 PM (AZFdl)

Well I hear she likes kissing girls.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 29, 2025 04:27 PM (xcxpd)

78 I'm tired of waiting for Ace to post a Sydney Sweeney thread for me to post her sexy jean pictures!!!!

https://tinyurl.com/5abtsbup

Of course, if he DOES post a thread on her, we reserve the right to continue posting pictures of her. Maybe AI ones of her in sexy Nazi dominatrix uniforms lol...

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at July 29, 2025 04:27 PM (JCZqz)

79 >>> 10 Fiat justitia ruat caelum
Posted by: toby928 at July 29, 2025 04:06 PM (jc0TO)

toby928 Johnson is right.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 29, 2025 04:27 PM (ULPxl)

80 I saw Hexadecimal Popes open for...

Stephen Price Blair, apparently. That was some timing.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 29, 2025 04:27 PM (EXyHK)

81 Trump back in DC.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 29, 2025 04:28 PM (qadd3)

82 73 According to the prophecy, Clement C will be the reigning Pope during the rapture.
Since the last one was #14, it's gonna be a while.
Posted by: Bensdad00

If we're already up to 14, we're 8 popes past C.
Posted by: Hexadecimal Popes? at July 29, 2025 04:25 PM (cof3R)

Almost like when the son of God himself said 'no man knows the day or hour', he meant it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 29, 2025 04:28 PM (xcxpd)

83 Insane evil in this world.

Unfortunately it happens everywhere. Evil knows no bounds.
They will pay, if not in this life then then the judgement day.

Posted by: Case at July 29, 2025 04:28 PM (q3kYF)

84 They will pay, if not in this life then then the judgement day.
Posted by: Case at July 29, 2025 04:28 PM (q3kYF)

I'd prefer to see it in this life

Posted by: It's me donna at July 29, 2025 04:29 PM (VE6XX)

85 I thought I remembered a Brooke Shields jeans ad from the 80s (I love me some Brooke back then) where she does basically the same ad as the new 'fascist' Sydney Sweeney genes/jeans ad.

I was right.
She did a Calvin Klein ad where she basically goes through the entire theory of evolution and ends it with:

"...which brings us to Calvins, and the survival of the fittest."

https://tinyurl.com/msbznj3a
(@ImMeme0 on X)

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 29, 2025 04:29 PM (6ydKt)

86 73 According to the prophecy, Clement C will be the reigning Pope during the rapture.
Since the last one was #14, it's gonna be a while.
Posted by: Bensdad00

If we're already up to 14, we're 8 popes past C
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Not in traditional Roman numerals we aren't.

Posted by: Bensdad00 at July 29, 2025 04:29 PM (F/35S)

87 Almost like when the son of God himself said 'no man knows the day or hour', he meant it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

It confuses me when he says that only the Father knows the hour. If the Son and the Holy Spirit are also God, why don't they know the hour, too?

Posted by: Bulg at July 29, 2025 04:30 PM (77rzZ)

88 >>I remembered a Brooke Shields jeans ad from the 80s (I love me some Brooke back then) where she does basically the same ad as the new 'fascist' Sydney Sweeney genes/jeans ad.

I was right.
She did a Calvin Klein ad where she basically goes through the entire theory of evolution and ends it with:

"...which brings us to Calvins, and the survival of the fittest."

Brooke Shields was the first woman I ever asked out on a date.

Posted by: garrett at July 29, 2025 04:30 PM (oSEaw)

89 (I love me some Brooke back then)

Ah, an eyebrow man, I see.

Posted by: Bulg at July 29, 2025 04:31 PM (77rzZ)

90 88 >>I remembered a Brooke Shields jeans ad from the 80s (I love me some Brooke back then) where she does basically the same ad as the new 'fascist' Sydney Sweeney genes/jeans ad.

I was right.
She did a Calvin Klein ad where she basically goes through the entire theory of evolution and ends it with:

"...which brings us to Calvins, and the survival of the fittest."

Brooke Shields was the first woman I ever asked out on a date.
Posted by: garrett at July 29, 2025 04:30 PM (oSEaw)

I asked out Terri Lynn Doss.
She was nice about turning me down.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 29, 2025 04:31 PM (xcxpd)

91 Interesting development.

Ultimately though this entire saga just doesn't inspire outrage in me. It just exists.

He's dead. For me the remainder is conversation.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 29, 2025 04:31 PM (6/oTW)

92 >>> 14 Union Pacific And Norfolk Southern Reach $85 Billion Merger Deal

Union Pacific and Norfolk Southern today announced an $85 billion deal to tie their networks together and create the first U.S. transcontinental railroad. The combined railroad will operate 52,000 miles of track through 43 states
Posted by: SMOD at July 29, 2025 04:07 PM (RHGPo)

Say what?

Posted by: Promontory, UT in 1869 at July 29, 2025 04:31 PM (ULPxl)

93 Katy Perry went from being with a drug addict (Russell Brand) to an elf (Orlando Bloom) to a gibbering wussified nitwit (Castro's kid)
The girl has issues

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 29, 2025 04:31 PM (A7hgX)

94 I saw Hexadecimal Popes open for...
Posted by: Bulg at July 29, 2025 04:26 PM (77rzZ)
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The Octets. They had a digital groove to die for!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 29, 2025 04:31 PM (tT6L1)

95 The Left is going after Trump over Epstein for the same reasons we had years of Russia, Russia, Russia. They are out blow up his presidency, blow up personal life, and lay the groundwork for further action if the D's gain the House.

The idea that Trump was sneaking around to bed Epstein's underage girls is ludicrous: Trump Tower, his legacy, or twenty minutes with 16 yo being sex trafficked. It makes a much sense as that false accusation of him sexually assaulting that Dem shill in a department store dressing room. That's just not him from everything I have observed. Except for Rosie, he treats women with a respect.

Once again his army of political enemies are going after him again with nothing but inuendo and smokey smears. This is exactly the BS Schiff pulled over J6. Same for the Russian coup; Trump is the only one not guilty of committing actual crimes during that.

At the end of the day I am taking him at his word because he has earned that by the totality of who he is and what he does. I am picking a side: that man is innocent.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 29, 2025 04:31 PM (9vYpt)

96 >>I asked out Terri Lynn Doss.
She was nice about turning me down.

Nice. Same here, with Brooke.

Except it was during a whole school assembly...but she politely stammered her way through.

Posted by: garrett at July 29, 2025 04:32 PM (oSEaw)

97 She needs to be given immunity and have a public hearing, but that is most definitely not going to happen.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 29, 2025 04:32 PM (e5NfL)

98 It means she is now a tiny, seedless orange.
Posted by: garrett at July 29, 2025 04:15 PM (oSEaw)

SHE WEARS SHOES NUMBER NINE?

Buy that girl some herring boxes then

Posted by: Kindltot at July 29, 2025 04:32 PM (D7oie)

99 It confuses me when he says that only the Father knows the hour. If the Son and the Holy Spirit are also God, why don't they know the hour, too?
Posted by: Bulg

If you understood it, the nature of the Trinity wouldn't be a Mystery.

Posted by: mikeski at July 29, 2025 04:32 PM (cof3R)

100 87 Almost like when the son of God himself said 'no man knows the day or hour', he meant it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

It confuses me when he says that only the Father knows the hour. If the Son and the Holy Spirit are also God, why don't they know the hour, too?
Posted by: Bulg at July 29, 2025 04:30 PM (77rzZ)

The Trinity puzzles me too. Best I can figure, Jesus shares in God's divinity, he IS God. But he's not God the Father who has his own mind and personality. The Holy Spirit...no idea. Some sort of divine astral projection of God or Jesus' will???

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 29, 2025 04:33 PM (xcxpd)

101 It confuses me when he says that only the Father knows the hour. If the Son and the Holy Spirit are also God, why don't they know the hour, too?
Posted by: Bulg

Compartmentalization. G-d is an Object Oriented Programmer. I assume He uses a buggy version of Java

Posted by: gKWVE at July 29, 2025 04:33 PM (gKWVE)

102 89 (I love me some Brooke back then)

Ah, an eyebrow man, I see.

Posted by: Bulg at July 29, 2025 04:31 PM (77rzZ)

Alas, she was an older woman.
I only know she was gorgeous to 10 year old me.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 29, 2025 04:34 PM (6ydKt)

103 I am so happy you comment here. It makes my day to read you!

me too Christy!

Posted by: Black Orchid at July 29, 2025 04:34 PM (Pv3Rg)

104 Mike Benz sez: "House Republican Appropriators restore full funding to the National Endowment for Democracy (NED).

Trump had asked for zero. House GOP puts back $315,000,000 and lets NED take in more cash through government contracts."

Cripes.

Posted by: Lithiated gp For Pep at July 29, 2025 04:34 PM (42Mqt)

105 Nice. Same here, with Brooke.

Except it was during a whole school assembly...but she politely stammered her way through.

Posted by: garrett at July 29, 2025 04:32 PM (oSEaw)

You went to school with Brooke?
Cool.

I bet she was popular.
She was doing movies at like 12 or 13 or whatever it was.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 29, 2025 04:35 PM (6ydKt)

106 >>Alas, she was an older woman.
I only know she was gorgeous to 10 year old me.

When I was 13 I met Carol Alt for the first time...and I was ruined.

Posted by: garrett at July 29, 2025 04:35 PM (oSEaw)

107 "
I think this is pretty irrefutable. I still don't understand why Trump's DOJ handled this so badly, though.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 29, 2025 04:05 PM (Riz8t) "

Whose DOJ? has even 10% of it been replaced?
I assume it is deliberate sabotage.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 29, 2025 04:35 PM (dKEEs)

108
Black Orchid,

Wouldn't it be great to hang out for an afternoon with Christy and MadameMayhem and some wine?

Posted by: fourseasons at July 29, 2025 04:36 PM (3ek7K)

109 Was Ghislaine a Deep State patsy?

Posted by: ShainS -- The Marshall Plan is MORTE! at July 29, 2025 04:36 PM (BH136)

110 >>You went to school with Brooke?
Cool.

Nah - She was at Princeton at the time. I was in 8th Grade and she spoke at my Middle School. Earliest mention of Climate Change I can recall besides the 'Coming Ice Age' thing from 79 or so...

When they opened up the floor to questions, I took my shot.

Posted by: garrett at July 29, 2025 04:37 PM (oSEaw)

111 I think this is pretty irrefutable. I still don't understand why Trump's DOJ handled this so badly, though.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 29, 2025 04:05 PM (Riz8t)

Because there most likely will be republicans outed. Probably ones we like- and strong Trump supporters. And most messy, judges that will throw a whole lot into chaos. IF Roberts is on there, what do we do with it? We don’t get to say it tainted his bad decisions or the decisions we hate. We don’t get selective tainting. I am hoping he isn’t for a lot of reasons, but this is one. I also think if we see names like Bill Gates and nothing happens, are we are okay with just knowing it? Because I also think the evidence has been messed up enough by the Biden DOJ, any lawyer worth their salt will destroy a case against their client. So we will know, but we won’t see much happen and that is going to be hard to deal with as well. Rocks, hard places.

Posted by: Piper at July 29, 2025 04:37 PM (p4NUW)

112 96, Bravo, Alteria!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 29, 2025 04:37 PM (dKEEs)

113 When I was 13 I met Carol Alt for the first time...and I was ruined.

Posted by: garrett at July 29, 2025 04:35 PM (oSEaw)

I just looked her up and she's not bad looking for her age.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 29, 2025 04:37 PM (6ydKt)

114 101
The Trinity puzzles me too. Best I can figure, Jesus shares in God's divinity, he IS God. But he's not God the Father who has his own mind and personality. The Holy Spirit...no idea. Some sort of divine astral projection of God or Jesus' will???
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Go watch Multiplicity
God = Michael Keaton
JC = OG copy
HS = gonna eat a dolphin

Posted by: Bensdad00 at July 29, 2025 04:38 PM (F/35S)

115 Nah - She was at Princeton at the time. I was in 8th Grade and she spoke at my Middle School. Earliest mention of Climate Change I can recall besides the 'Coming Ice Age' thing from 79 or so...

When they opened up the floor to questions, I took my shot.

Posted by: garrett at July 29, 2025 04:37 PM (oSEaw)

YOLO.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 29, 2025 04:38 PM (6ydKt)

116 Some thoughts on why-if Jesus is God he doesn't predict the time of his return. From conservative theological site: "Got Questions" :

https://tinyurl.com/3268eue9

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 29, 2025 04:38 PM (2GCMq)

117 Many of the girls in my HS were model quality in the looks department. I dated a couple of them. Only platonically, alas.

Posted by: Bulg at July 29, 2025 04:38 PM (77rzZ)

118 >>I just looked her up and she's not bad looking for her age.

She was dating Ron Greschner when I met her at the Hockey Rink.
I delivered Pizzas to her all through HS.
She was a sweetheart.
And no woman has ever looked better working in her garden.

Posted by: garrett at July 29, 2025 04:39 PM (oSEaw)

119 Brooke Shields was the first woman I ever asked out on a date.
Posted by: garrett at July 29, 2025 04:30 PM (oSEaw)

This man contains multitudes. I'd love to hear details on that one.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 29, 2025 04:39 PM (lQXuB)

120 This would be a good time for the Clintons to die.

Posted by: pudinhead at July 29, 2025 04:39 PM (W3T6M)

121 Biden released Trump records from the National Archives for trial purposes.

Relevant Department of Justice Files, including Epstein Records, have been or will be transferred to NARA. The process isn't immediate and permanent restrictions can be ordered.

That's applicable to all executive branch federal agencies.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 29, 2025 04:39 PM (NFX2v)

122 123 This would be a good time for the Clintons to die.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 29, 2025 04:39 PM (W3T6M)

Could you keep them up there just a little longer? This place sucks enough as it is

Posted by: ol' stan at July 29, 2025 04:40 PM (gKWVE)

123 I asked out Terri Lynn Doss.
She was nice about turning me down.

She was so beautiful, what a gorgeous girl.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 29, 2025 04:40 PM (dfIr7)

124 I'm in the mood for love
Simply because you fear me!

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 29, 2025 04:41 PM (6PfSR)

125 57, so true!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 29, 2025 04:41 PM (dKEEs)

126 I'm pretty sure Elric Blade was asking chicks out when he was still in diapers.

Posted by: Bulg at July 29, 2025 04:41 PM (77rzZ)

127 The impetus for me asking her out was actually a 'Life is Hell' Calendar. It had random celebrity birthdays on each day...
The day she gave her presentation on Climate Change was the day before her Birthday. So, I used that as my opening. She demurred and claimed to have plans with her Mother, who was also there and laughing along with everyone in my school.

Posted by: garrett at July 29, 2025 04:41 PM (oSEaw)

128
She's a wild card that could blow both sides up. Interesting to see how this plays out. Of course she could say anything she wants. She has nothing to lose.

Posted by: Frank Barone at July 29, 2025 04:42 PM (IifOV)

129 When they opened up the floor to questions, I took my shot.

Hey, it was worth a try, right? Confident for a 13 year old.

I have never met anyone famous, that I am aware of.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 29, 2025 04:42 PM (dfIr7)

130 127 Brooke Shields was the first woman I ever asked out on a date.
Posted by: garrett at July 29, 2025 04:30 PM (oSEaw)

If you had your Vespa back then ? I think you could have sealed that deal.
---------------
With Bedazzled Crocs he would be in like Flynn.

Posted by: pudinhead at July 29, 2025 04:43 PM (W3T6M)

131 Say what?
Posted by: Promontory, UT in 1869"

Here, have a spike...

Posted by: man at July 29, 2025 04:44 PM (tubbA)

132 Union Pacific and Norfolk Southern today announced an $85 billion deal to tie their networks together and create the first U.S. transcontinental railroad

I thought the Golden Spike was driven in with a silver hammer by Leland Stanford at Promontory Summit on May 10, 1869, thus ushering in the first U.S. transcontinental railroad. I think they still had to finish the tracks from Sacramento to San Francisco, but transcontinental railroad? Been there, done that!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 29, 2025 04:44 PM (NWwW8)

133 I have never met anyone famous, that I am aware of.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

I shook Betty Ford's hand during the 1976 campaign at a whistle-stop tour in Niles, Michigan.

Posted by: Bulg at July 29, 2025 04:44 PM (77rzZ)

134 I asked out Farrah Fawcett. Of course I was staring at her poster at the time

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 29, 2025 04:45 PM (A7hgX)

135 She's a wild card that could blow both sides up. Interesting to see how this plays out. Of course she could say anything she wants. She has nothing to lose.

Posted by: Frank Barone at July 29, 2025 04:42 PM

And if they grant her blanket immunity she can lie her a$$ off just like oliver north did and suffer zero consequences.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 29, 2025 04:45 PM (e5NfL)

136 >>>The demands listed in the letter include two items that Markus deemed non-negotiable: a grant of immunity for Maxwell, and testifying outside the Florida federal prison where she's been serving a 20-year sentence since 2022 for conspiring with Epstein to abuse young girls.

They sound like very reasonable demands. She gets to get out of prison for a week or so, she can't be charged with further crimes based on her testimony, and ... I don't know how this would impact any appeals she has going on, but they can work that out.

How could anyone possibly be opposed to her testifying? (and I'm sure there will be many who are opposed)

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 29, 2025 04:45 PM (uCjyK)

137 126 I asked out Terri Lynn Doss.
She was nice about turning me down.

She was so beautiful, what a gorgeous girl.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 29, 2025 04:40 PM (dfIr7)

Yes indeed. Refined, chiseled, everything you want and nothing you don't. And she was kind to a teenager.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 29, 2025 04:45 PM (xcxpd)

138 137 I have never met anyone famous, that I am aware of.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

I shook Betty Ford's hand during the 1976 campaign at a whistle-stop tour in Niles, Michigan.
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I met Hubert Humphrey and Colonel Sanders!

Posted by: pudinhead at July 29, 2025 04:45 PM (W3T6M)

139 >>If you had your Vespa back then ? I think you could have sealed that deal.

Ace only lets me drive the Vespa when he can ride bitch.

Posted by: garrett at July 29, 2025 04:46 PM (oSEaw)

140 Posted by: Bulg at July 29, 2025 04:41 PM (77rzZ

LOL. He probably waited till the 7th grade when they would all be impressed by the First Lamborghini his dad was going to give him when he turned 17.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 29, 2025 04:46 PM (2GCMq)

141 Black Orchid,

Wouldn't it be great to hang out for an afternoon with Christy and MadameMayhem and some wine?

Posted by: fourseasons
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Y'know, this could happen in Corsicana in October.

Posted by: screaming in digital at July 29, 2025 04:46 PM (DnMuk)

142 Because there most likely will be republicans outed. Probably ones we like- and strong Trump supporters. And most messy, judges that will throw a whole lot into chaos. IF Roberts is on there, what do we do with it? We don’t get to say it tainted his bad decisions or the decisions we hate. We don’t get selective tainting. I am hoping he isn’t for a lot of reasons, but this is one. I also think if we see names like Bill Gates and nothing happens, are we are okay with just knowing it? Because I also think the evidence has been messed up enough by the Biden DOJ, any lawyer worth their salt will destroy a case against their client. So we will know, but we won’t see much happen and that is going to be hard to deal with as well. Rocks, hard places.
Posted by: Piper at July 29, 2025 04:37 PM (p4NUW)

Wouldn't you rather know whether or not the chief justice of the supreme court is being blackmailed by the CIA / Mossad / MI6 for having sex with children, then NOT know?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 29, 2025 04:47 PM (uCjyK)

143 If I met a really cute model type I would have been way to shy to even look at her, and would have assumed she was bothered by guys too often and would rather be left alone for once.

These days there's the added layer of cops might show up at your door, so, best to leave them alone.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 29, 2025 04:47 PM (dfIr7)

144 I shook Betty Ford's hand during the 1976 campaign at a whistle-stop tour in Niles, Michigan.

I’ve stopped at a gas station in Niles, Michigan several times. On the way up from Chattanooga. They used to have good Michigan-made snacks, although not so much the last time I was there in June.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 29, 2025 04:47 PM (EXyHK)

145 Brooke Shields was the first woman I ever asked out on a date.
Posted by: garrett at July 29, 2025 04:30 PM (oSEaw)

This man contains multitudes. I'd love to hear details on that one.

*cough*overcompensating*cough*

Posted by: Archimedes at July 29, 2025 04:47 PM (Riz8t)

146
WAPO, 3 days ago

Trump administration releases billions it withheld from schools
The Trump administration last Friday said it would release one of the streams of frozen funding, allowing $1.3 billion for after-school and...
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For development programs for teachers; student support and academic enrichment; after-school and summer programs; English language acquisition programs, adult education, to educate children of migrant workers, etc.

It's back, and PDT is neither loved more nor hated less.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 29, 2025 04:48 PM (NFX2v)

147
I met Frank Borman and was on a cruise with the blonde guy from Dukes of Hazard.

Mr. Borman was a very nice man.

Posted by: fourseasons at July 29, 2025 04:48 PM (3ek7K)

148 I had dinner with Buckminster Fuller.

That it for me as far as famous folk.

Guy was incredibly interesting.

Posted by: pawn at July 29, 2025 04:48 PM (QB+5g)

149
I shook Bill Clinton's Hand at Portland State University park blocks in 1995.

Posted by: Frank Barone at July 29, 2025 04:48 PM (IifOV)

150 I shook Bill Clinton's hand back during the 92 campaign. The guy could work a crowd, I'll give him that. I did regret voting for him. Turns out he was a politician.

Only other famous person I've run across was Nick Searcy. I didn't bother him. he was clearly in vacation mode in a tourist town. So I just gave him the 'sup nod. He nodded back.

Posted by: Mike the Narf, Possibly White at July 29, 2025 04:49 PM (0aYVJ)

151 154 I had dinner with Buckminster Fuller.

That it for me as far as famous folk.

Guy was incredibly interesting.
Posted by: pawn at July 29, 2025 04:48 PM (QB+5g)

That would have been interesting... I met Janis Joplin...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 29, 2025 04:49 PM (VE6XX)

152 I’ve stopped at a gas station in Niles, Michigan several times. On the way up from Chattanooga. They used to have good Michigan-made snacks, although not so much the last time I was there in June.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair

The Niles train station is very cool. Richardsonian Romanesque, I believe. Showed up in Midnight Run with DeNiro and Charles Grodin.

Posted by: Bulg at July 29, 2025 04:49 PM (77rzZ)

153 Katy Perry went from being with a drug addict (Russell Brand) to an elf (Orlando Bloom) to a gibbering wussified nitwit (Castro's kid)
The girl has issues
--------

She's not the woman they think she is at home...

Posted by: Crusader at July 29, 2025 04:50 PM (TN0g+)

154 I met George Takei at a soul food restaurant in Savannah.

Saw I guy I thought was Erik Estrada in the Las Vegas airport.

Didn't ask either of them out.

Posted by: screaming in digital at July 29, 2025 04:50 PM (DnMuk)

155 > Plenty here are saying "I don't care" now, every thread like this,

“I don’t care” is not the same as not wanting it to happen. *I* don’t care, because every time I’ve cared on

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 29, 2025 04:50 PM (EXyHK)

156 Harry, you're smarter than this. Plenty here are saying "I don't care" now, every thread like this, precisely because they do care that Maxwell might implicate some on their own team. Its the Ace of Spades version of "Move On".
Posted by: Straight Shooter at July 29, 2025 04:48 PM (7hARg)

Hardly. Assuming straw man motives there.

I said last week - no one has ever been able to tell me why I should care without condescending or bullying me.

Do I give a damn whether she testifies or not? Why should I??

Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 29, 2025 04:50 PM (3Dcbq)

157 I've met a bunch of really famous people and I always feel sorry for them. I'd hate to be famous.

I've met Jon Voight and he was really nice and some lady had to walk up and interrupt and started asking him about Angelina Jolie and I felt super bad for him.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 29, 2025 04:50 PM (AZf41)

158 I delivered Pizzas to AF1 for Bill Clinton. Westchester County Airport. One of his famous 'haircut' flights to NYC that the Press would rant about.
They ordered 30+ Pizzas.
Tipped ok, too.

Posted by: garrett at July 29, 2025 04:51 PM (oSEaw)

159 >>> 146 Black Orchid,

Wouldn't it be great to hang out for an afternoon with Christy and MadameMayhem and some wine?

Posted by: fourseasons
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Y'know, this could happen in Corsicana in October.
Posted by: screaming in digital at July 29, 2025 04:46 PM (DnMuk)

You know this year will be the *tenth* TX MoMee, right???

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 29, 2025 04:51 PM (ULPxl)

160 Well, that was meant to be a cancel. But to finish the sentence, “it’s been a disappointment.”

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 29, 2025 04:51 PM (EXyHK)

161 I was reading Tom Lehrer's obit, and it turns out that his day job was as a mathematics professor, at either Harvard or MIT, I think. Never knew that.

Posted by: Bulg at July 29, 2025 04:51 PM (77rzZ)

162 Wouldn't it be great to hang out for an afternoon with Christy and MadameMayhem and some wine?

yes!

Y'know, this could happen in Corsicana in October.

where is Corsicana? is that in Florida? I was just there! (well, florida)

Posted by: Black Orchid at July 29, 2025 04:51 PM (Pv3Rg)

163 I shook Johnny Bench's hand. I met Kevin Sullivan, Mike Rotunda, and Rick Steiner.

Posted by: Crusader at July 29, 2025 04:51 PM (TN0g+)

164 Katy Perry went from being with a drug addict (Russell Brand) to an elf (Orlando Bloom) to a gibbering wussified nitwit (Castro's kid).

What a downgrade from Orlando Bloom to Trudeau

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 29, 2025 04:52 PM (dfIr7)

165 Harry, you're smarter than this. Plenty here are saying "I don't care" now, every thread like this, precisely because they do care that Maxwell might implicate some on their own team. Its the Ace of Spades version of "Move On".
Posted by: Straight Shooter at July 29, 2025 04:48 PM (7hARg)

I suppose, but I also don't understand how any normal person can be looking at this through a American politics partisan lens.

If what I think happened happened, that would mean our Deep State through their CIA spies was sex trafficking young American girls to the wealthy and elite in the US, UK, and Israel, then using videotapes of those people having sex with teenaged girls as blackmail / leverage to control the actions of these rich and powerful people from behind the scenes.

If that's not what happened, I think it's very important to release everything so that we can see that.

Because if that IS what happened, then this is a major fucking deal, and a biggg problem that transcends normal partisan politics.

And I don't see how people throw up their hands and say "oh, who cares? Talking about Epstein only hurts Trump."

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 29, 2025 04:52 PM (uCjyK)

166 literally just saw Pink down in Florida isn't that crazy

clearwater

Posted by: Black Orchid at July 29, 2025 04:53 PM (Pv3Rg)

167 Posted by: garrett at July 29, 2025 04:51 PM (oSEaw)

Didn't you once meet Ron Howard, and pissed him off by calling him "Ritchie Cunningham?"

Posted by: Bulg at July 29, 2025 04:53 PM (77rzZ)

168 I've interviewed a few politicians--that's the closest I've ever danced with fame.

Posted by: Still lurking up north, read some, don't comment much at July 29, 2025 04:53 PM (kTd/k)

169 I thought the Golden Spike was driven in with a silver hammer by Leland Stanford at Promontory Summit on May 10, 1869, thus ushering in the first U.S. transcontinental railroad. I think they still had to finish the tracks from Sacramento to San Francisco, but transcontinental railroad? Been there, done that!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessi
+++
Pretty sure that Cullen Bohannon was the one who really drove that golden spike.

Posted by: Florida Peasant at July 29, 2025 04:53 PM (Lo97M)

170 Here it is. I don't care if you care.

But I care. And surely you won't mind if this all comes out. Since you don't care.

Yet there is no end, every time this comes up, of those expressing that they don't care. Fine. Move On - as Hillary begged everyone to do.

I care. I want names. Don't care what names they are. I want the truth. Don't care who it hurts.
Posted by: Straight Shooter at July 29, 2025 04:52 PM (7hARg)

Bully for you.

But hey, thanks for providing the case in point for me.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 29, 2025 04:53 PM (3Dcbq)

171 My dad met Tommy Chong on a boat to Catalina Island, he said Tommy was a really nice guy.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 29, 2025 04:53 PM (dfIr7)

172 where is Corsicana? is that in Florida? I was just there! (well, florida)
Posted by: Black Orchid
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Texas MoMe. The 10th edition. See the sidebar for Ben Had's contact info. You won't regret it. Just don't let any Morons lure you into the horse trailer.

Posted by: screaming in digital at July 29, 2025 04:54 PM (DnMuk)

173
If what I think happened happened, that would mean our Deep State through their CIA spies was sex trafficking young American girls to the wealthy and elite in the US, UK, and Israel, then using videotapes of those people having sex with teenaged girls as blackmail / leverage to control the actions of these rich and powerful people from behind the scenes."

That is exactly what I think was going on there. Epstein was just a front man, and not really important to the operation.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 29, 2025 04:54 PM (uWKK8)

174 The nicest famous person I ever met was Les Paul.
That guy never forgot anything you told him and would stop a show to walk off stage and shake your hand if he ever saw you in attendance, again.

Nobody worked a room like Les Paul. He was gifted in a number of ways.

Posted by: garrett at July 29, 2025 04:54 PM (oSEaw)

175 I've also shaken Eddie Muller's hand.

Dude is quite tall.

Posted by: Bulg at July 29, 2025 04:54 PM (77rzZ)

176 ABC News, Hunter Biden business associate tells House Oversight Committee GOP allegations are 'preposterous'
Eric Schwerin made the comments in a closed-door interview with the committee. January 30, 2024

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 29, 2025 04:54 PM (NFX2v)

177 Hardly. Assuming straw man motives there.

I said last week - no one has ever been able to tell me why I should care without condescending or bullying me.

Do I give a damn whether she testifies or not? Why should I??

Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 29, 2025 04:50 PM (3Dcbq)

Because she presumably knows the full story, and if she truthfully testifies, well -- see my comment @ 171.

That would be pretty earth shattering if we find out that, for example, the CEO's of major corporations are not supporting D causes because they want to, but because the CIA is blackmailing the CEO's, no?

Not to mention everything involved in science and politics and banking and everyone else who Epstein was hanging out with.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 29, 2025 04:54 PM (uCjyK)

178 Didn't you once meet Ron Howard, and pissed him off by calling him "Ritchie Cunningham?"
Posted by: Bulg at July 29, 2025 04:53 PM (77rzZ)
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Where's Clint? he's the one I wanna meet.

Posted by: Mike the Narf, Possibly White at July 29, 2025 04:54 PM (0aYVJ)

179
Wouldn't you rather know whether or not the chief justice of the supreme court is being blackmailed by the CIA / Mossad / MI6 for having sex with children, then NOT know?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 29, 2025 04:47 PM (uCjyK)

Of course! But it’s not that cut and dry, you of all people know this. It is an ethics conundrum. Are we ready to give up the Roe v. Wade decision if we call it all into it all into question? Yes, I want them all to have a painful comeuppance. At the same time, I want everyone to steal themselves for the justification that will come from our side, too - oh well, these girls were 15, 16, 17, not 5. These girls settled and got money already, they were made whole (as of that is even possible). Again, you know how this works. It will not be easy if it is anywhere near as ugly as we believe it to be.

Posted by: Piper at July 29, 2025 04:55 PM (p4NUW)

180 Saw that lousy Notre Dame coach Jerry Faust in the South Bend Airport once.

Posted by: Bulg at July 29, 2025 04:55 PM (77rzZ)

181 Nobody worked a room like Les Paul. He was gifted in a number of ways.

Monster talent. Plus, incredible inventor

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 29, 2025 04:55 PM (dfIr7)

182 183 ABC News, Hunter Biden business associate tells House Oversight Committee GOP allegations are 'preposterous'
Eric Schwerin made the comments in a closed-door interview with the committee. January 30, 2024
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 29, 2025 04:54 PM (NFX2v)

LOL.. Like I would believe him

Posted by: It's me donna at July 29, 2025 04:55 PM (VE6XX)

183 Don’t know how famous he is but I interviewed Eddie Doucette the sportscaster last year. His father was a very famous chef, now largely forgotten, and I was writing a cookbook about him. He was very happy to talk about him. Very proud of his dad.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 29, 2025 04:56 PM (EXyHK)

184 One bit of advice I heard way back, when it comes to dealing with the rich and famous: never ask them for anything. Not even an autograph.

People are always after them, if they have any fame. Always wanting something from them. I do my best to treat them like anyone normal. And I have failed spectacularly at that on occasion

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 29, 2025 04:56 PM (xcxpd)

185 In 10th grade I was in pretty much every class with Mark Ruffalo. We were lab partners in Botany even.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 29, 2025 04:56 PM (qadd3)

186 >>Didn't you once meet Ron Howard, and pissed him off by calling him "Ritchie Cunningham?"

Opie. He did not like being called Opie.

He used to rent VHS Tapes from a shop I worked at in Banksville, NY when I was in HS.
His place in Greenwich was like 2 miles up the road.

Posted by: garrett at July 29, 2025 04:56 PM (oSEaw)

187
Nobody worked a room like Les Paul. He was gifted in a number of ways.
Posted by: garrett at July 29, 2025 04:54 PM (oSEaw)

I love this story.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 29, 2025 04:56 PM (AZf41)

188 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 29, 2025 04:54 PM (uCjyK)

Thanks for that. Appreciate it.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 29, 2025 04:56 PM (3Dcbq)

189 Supposedly Amber Heard is at odds with her new interior designer; they can’t agree where to place the stool in the bedroom.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 29, 2025 04:56 PM (dfIr7)

190 Where's Clint? he's the one I wanna meet.
Posted by: Mike the Narf,

Leon! One of the best Andy Griffith Show characters.

Posted by: Bulg at July 29, 2025 04:56 PM (77rzZ)

191 That is exactly what I think was going on there. Epstein was just a front man, and not really important to the operation.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 29, 2025 04:54 PM (uWKK

I think that is probably the case. I also don't think Epstein was actually a billionaire, I think the CIA / Mossad / MI-6 / tbd set him up with money from Les Wexner (who gave Epstein full power of attorney over all of his assets for some unknown reasonable) and probably also from the money Ghislaine Maxwells father stole from the pension funds in the UK, but the entire purpose of all of this was to create a honeypot, and -- as you say -- Epstein was just the hired frontman.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 29, 2025 04:56 PM (uCjyK)

192 192 In 10th grade I was in pretty much every class with Mark Ruffalo. We were lab partners in Botany even.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 29, 2025 04:56 PM

Was he a giant wussy then too?

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 29, 2025 04:57 PM (AZf41)

193 Opie. He did not like being called Opie.
Posted by: garrett

Wonder how he woulda reacted if you'd gone with "Winthrop Paroo?"

Posted by: Bulg at July 29, 2025 04:58 PM (77rzZ)

194 >>Monster talent. Plus, incredible inventor

and more. Guy was a living legend.

My father used to cut his grass when he (Dad) was 14-15. I used to take him to see Les for Father's Day every year I was in HS.

Posted by: garrett at July 29, 2025 04:58 PM (oSEaw)

195 189. LOL.. Like I would believe him
Posted by: It's me donna

Granted.👍

But could she be believed?

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 29, 2025 04:58 PM (NFX2v)

196 People are always after them, if they have any fame. Always wanting something from them. I do my best to treat them like anyone normal. And I have failed spectacularly at that on occasion

Andre the Giant said the best time he'd ever had in his life was filming Princess Bride because nobody paid him any attention, he was just another guy on the set.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 29, 2025 04:58 PM (dfIr7)

197 Still not Saying It!

Posted by: Don Black. Message: pending at July 29, 2025 04:59 PM (AOsQT)

198 196 Supposedly Amber Heard is at odds with her new interior designer; they can’t agree where to place the stool in the bedroom.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 29, 2025 04:56 PM (dfIr7)

*ba doom tsshhh*

Posted by: gKWVE at July 29, 2025 04:59 PM (gKWVE)

199 I had dinner with Buckminster Fuller.

fun fact: When the Astrodome was being built they wanted it to have that atomic building sign on it to encourage the citizens they had a place to go if we were under attack. The lower super structure met that standard and Roy Hofheinz wanted to make the roof also 'atomic proof' so he could state of federal financial assistance. No deal could be made.
Out came Buckminster Fuller who designed a geodesic dome that would be much cheaper to build using that newfangled metal nobody could pronounce called aluminum.
US Steal was so paranoid about it they provided the steel roof structure for free.
That roof 'floats' on timbers to accommodate the daily expansion and contraction of the frame.

Posted by: DanMan at July 29, 2025 04:59 PM (8uzBS)

200 Of course! But it’s not that cut and dry, you of all people know this. It is an ethics conundrum. Are we ready to give up the Roe v. Wade decision if we call it all into it all into question? Yes, I want them all to have a painful comeuppance. At the same time, I want everyone to steal themselves for the justification that will come from our side, too - oh well, these girls were 15, 16, 17, not 5. These girls settled and got money already, they were made whole (as of that is even possible). Again, you know how this works. It will not be easy if it is anywhere near as ugly as we believe it to be.
Posted by: Piper at July 29, 2025 04:55 PM (p4NUW)

I think it would be messy to expose it, sure. But who cares? We're talking about whether we're a self governing people or whether our Deep State and CIA are operating more like the KGB did in the USSR, minus the people disappearing in the night.

That seems more important to me than Justice Roberts keeping his job.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 29, 2025 04:59 PM (uCjyK)

201 I have a ton of Michael Jackson stories, he didn't pay his bills, you had to go to small claims court to be paid, the monkey was an asshole, he used to shut down the Toys R Us at night and bring in a bunch of kids and let them buy anything they wanted.
One time he sent a kid in to a fancy jewelry store and the kid asked to look at the most expensive jewelry in the store and Michael came in wearing some weird disguise and the jeweler hit the silent alarm and the cops came and the jeweler chewed out Michael Jackson, the jeweler didn't care who you were, don't do that in my store.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 29, 2025 05:01 PM (AZf41)

202 Posted by: Straight Shooter at July 29, 2025 04:48 PM (7hARg)

How many? For the most part of what I have seen, there is either interest or agnoticism towards more on the epstein deal.

Why, I'd almost think you are trying to make an equivalency between us and the left, who regularly whitewashed child molestation.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 29, 2025 05:01 PM (zZu0s)

203 I worked with a guy who said his Grandfather and Bob Dole's family lived next to eachother in Kansas while growing up. Said Bob Dole was an asshole. Came back from the war an asshole hero.

Posted by: Frank Barone at July 29, 2025 05:01 PM (IifOV)

204 I loved watching Les Paul's show where he jams with a prominent guitarist. Slash is a painfully shy dude, but Les had him pretty relaxed. Joe Satriani was a tool. Just did his own shit, but Mr. Paul was unfailingly polite.

Posted by: Mike the Narf, Possibly White at July 29, 2025 05:02 PM (0aYVJ)

205 could get state or federal funding...

Posted by: DanMan at July 29, 2025 05:02 PM (8uzBS)

206 this makes me think of the dems around 14 months ago demanding that trump debate biden and we know how that worked out for them

Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 29, 2025 05:02 PM (CWTWj)

207 I had lunch with Theodore Sturgeon the science fiction writer in the mid-1970s. He was in the middle of a long drought in his writing, which I was only vaguely aware of. He talked a lot about his idea of always asking the next question, whatever it is. He had a symbol he used that he wrote on a paper napkin and passed to me: the letter Q with an arrow —> through it. Always ask the next question.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 29, 2025 05:02 PM (NWwW8)

208 How could anyone possibly be opposed to her testifying?

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Mrs. Wrecks is. She's convinced it'd be false testimony designed to exonerate Trump.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Lying Dogface Pony Soldier at July 29, 2025 05:02 PM (L/fGl)

209 That seems more important to me than Justice Roberts keeping his job.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 29, 2025 04:59 PM (uCjyK)

Let Justice be done though the Heavens fall.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 29, 2025 05:02 PM (zZu0s)

210 *peeks in*
Totally an aside...sitting in the 19th hole after Geezer Golf and the barmaid is about as lovely a lass one could hope to see.
I think the term is "Smokin'!!!"

Posted by: Diogenes at July 29, 2025 05:02 PM (W/lyH)

211 191 One bit of advice I heard way back, when it comes to dealing with the rich and famous: never ask them for anything. Not even an autograph.

People are always after them, if they have any fame. Always wanting something from them. I do my best to treat them like anyone normal. And I have failed spectacularly at that on occasion
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 29, 2025 04:56 PM (xcxpd)

I act like I don't know who they are. This ticks them off, especially in DC with congressional turds. And act like it is their privilege to cross paths with me.

As I have said before, Claire Dimwit McCaskill opened the door grandly for me at a great restaurant in DC. I thanked her and her face fell a mile. Totally worth it (altho the day prior I wanted to trip Kathleen Seibelus "by accident" and my husband said no...actually he said no, that I could not ask her where the funds Obungocare was coming from. I did not tell him I was going to trip her by accident. Years later he said he wished he'd let me mess with her.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 29, 2025 05:03 PM (6PCLE)

212 >>Posted by: CaliGirl at July 29, 2025 05:01 PM (AZf41)

Still. Side one of Off the Wall.

Posted by: garrett at July 29, 2025 05:03 PM (oSEaw)

213 Needless nerd note:

One of the miracles of nature is that aluminum and glass have almost the same coefficient of thermal expansion.

Posted by: pawn at July 29, 2025 05:03 PM (QB+5g)

214 Let Justice be done though the Heavens fall.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 29, 2025 05:02 PM (zZu0s)

Exactly. Or as we lawyers like to obnoxiously say, "Fiat justitia ruat caelum"

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 29, 2025 05:04 PM (uCjyK)

215 well speaking of meeting celebrities, one time in the 1980s i met jack gilford and his wife. he was the guy who kept trying to steal the kid's cracker jack. very nice man

Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 29, 2025 05:04 PM (CWTWj)

216 200 Mark Ruffalo had this surfer dude affectation in high school, like Michaelangelo from TMNT He was wheat gluten phobic from his mom. Mildly disruptive, constantly talking.. Very low body fat. The handfull of these surfer dudes spent a lot of their time wave hopping.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 29, 2025 05:04 PM (qadd3)

217 He talked a lot about his idea of always asking the next question, whatever it is.

That's how I write. I start up a scene and have a vague concept of how the book will end up, and just ask questions. Why did he do that? Where did she come from? What would that group do in response? How does that affect this area?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 29, 2025 05:04 PM (dfIr7)

218 I think that it was Mr. Fuller that told me that. It's stuck with me for a long time.

Posted by: pawn at July 29, 2025 05:05 PM (QB+5g)

219 I had lunch with Theodore Sturgeon the science fiction writer in the mid-1970s.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit

Did he live in a roe house?

Posted by: Bulg at July 29, 2025 05:05 PM (77rzZ)

220 >> He had a symbol he used that he wrote on a paper napkin and passed to me: the letter Q with an arrow —> through it. Always ask the next question.

That's fantastic. Getting wisdom like that handed to you.

Posted by: garrett at July 29, 2025 05:05 PM (oSEaw)

221 Mrs. Wrecks is. She's convinced it'd be false testimony designed to exonerate Trump.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Lying Dogface Pony Soldier at July 29, 2025 05:02 PM (L/fGl)

Well, that's a risk we're going to have to take.

I also don't think Ghislaine has anything to gain by doing THAT, at least while Trump is president.

She may lie, of course, but that's for us to determine on our own.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 29, 2025 05:05 PM (uCjyK)

222 I have a ton of Michael Jackson stories, he didn't pay his bills, you had to go to small claims court to be paid, the monkey was an asshole, he used to shut down the Toys R Us at night and bring in a bunch of kids and let them buy anything they wanted.
One time he sent a kid in to a fancy jewelry store and the kid asked to look at the most expensive jewelry in the store and Michael came in wearing some weird disguise and the jeweler hit the silent alarm and the cops came and the jeweler chewed out Michael Jackson, the jeweler didn't care who you were, don't do that in my store.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 29, 2025 05:01 PM (AZf41)

The fact that he used his money to built a ferris wheel instead of well booze stocked luxury pirate ship with an indoor shooting range tells me all I need to know.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 29, 2025 05:05 PM (snZF9)

223 That seems more important to me than Justice Roberts keeping his job.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 29, 2025 04

And I agree, I don’t give a rats behind if he loses his job, that should be the least of his worries if he partook. I am worried about us, and decisions his court has made, what happens there. I do not give a flying fig about what negative thing happens personally to anyone on the list. They earned it and they deserve it. It’s the bigger picture.

That said, we shouldn’t really borrow trouble. We don’t know if any of this will matter until we do. If we do.

Posted by: Piper at July 29, 2025 05:06 PM (p4NUW)

224 @207 funniest thing about the Astrodome was that originally it had real grass on the field. The roof wasn't clear so it all died. Then AstroTurf was created

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 29, 2025 05:06 PM (A7hgX)

225 Yo Bers!

Always glad to see you pop in the comments.

Posted by: garrett at July 29, 2025 05:06 PM (oSEaw)

226 Bob Dole was famous in the Senate for having a dark sense of humor and not giving much of a shit. This got so bad that even Bloom County took note in the 1980s.
Although his comments could be pretty funny. Once when seeing Carter, Ford, and Nixon together, Dole muttered "See No Evil, Hear No Evil ... and Evil".

Posted by: gKWVE at July 29, 2025 05:09 PM (gKWVE)

227 Minnesota National Guard activated, state of emergency declared after cyberattack against St. Paul

Posted by: SMOD at July 29, 2025 05:09 PM (nRImN)

228 Nah. Politics are not that important. Economics are not that important. Keeping your damn personal integrity is.
Posted by: Straight Shooter at July 29, 2025 05:07 PM (7hARg)

Pretty sure we're allowed here to have our own opinions..

Posted by: It's me donna at July 29, 2025 05:09 PM (VE6XX)

229 Yo Bers!

Always glad to see you pop in the comments.

Posted by: garrett at July 29, 2025 05:06 PM (oSEaw)

Well, when I have anything to say anyway.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 29, 2025 05:10 PM (snZF9)

230 so what came first, astroturf or astro boy? a sign of one's age

Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 29, 2025 05:10 PM (CWTWj)

231 And I agree, I don’t give a rats behind if he loses his job, that should be the least of his worries if he partook. I am worried about us, and decisions his court has made, what happens there. I do not give a flying fig about what negative thing happens personally to anyone on the list. They earned it and they deserve it. It’s the bigger picture.

That said, we shouldn’t really borrow trouble. We don’t know if any of this will matter until we do. If we do.
Posted by: Piper at July 29, 2025 05:06 PM (p4NUW)

I'm not even that concerned about the people involved. Yes they should go to jail (although SoL has likely run on most crimes at this point). I assume all of our politicians are liars and perverts.

I'm more concerned that our intel agencies seem to have decided that they should be the ones running the country, not the elected officials chosen by the people.

And it's not just the Epstein thing, although I think this has the possibility of being the clearest, more easily digestible evidence of exactly who the "Deep State" is, how they operate, and how much power they have really accumulated.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 29, 2025 05:10 PM (uCjyK)

232 I had lunch with Theodore Sturgeon the science fiction writer in the mid-1970s.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit

Was lunch good? Or was it in the 90% of lunches that were crud?

Posted by: mikeski at July 29, 2025 05:10 PM (DgGvY)

233 Unfortunately Dole didn't let his beast out when debating Clinton. Dole in top early-1980s form would have made Clinton piss his pants on stage.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 29, 2025 05:10 PM (gKWVE)

234 To be fair, Piper is not making the argument per se, but rather what she sees the argument might be if this goes sideways.

Piper is not necessarily making the qualification herself, just speculating where it would be.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 29, 2025 05:11 PM (zZu0s)

235 Posted by: Piper at July 29, 2025 05:06 PM (p4NUW)

Hey, Pipes. I've got a couple of part-time jobs in the offing.

Can you give me some interview tips for part-time vs. full-time jobs? You can send to my personal e-mail if you'd rather.

Posted by: Bulg at July 29, 2025 05:11 PM (77rzZ)

236 I see that following the shooting in NY, Hochul has called for a nationwide ban of "assault weapons." I'm calling for a ban on idiot assault politicians.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 29, 2025 05:11 PM (W/lyH)

237 I'm Bob Dole, I have a boner. This gave me a boner , buy it

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 29, 2025 05:12 PM (A7hgX)

238
Look up at 208.. That's the girl arguing that - well, they were 15, 16, and 17 ... not 5. That's Piper arguing that.

I am absolutely NOT arguing that. I am saying that is what we will hear from our side trying to justify it. In fact, you will see I countered it by saying the settlement they already got, which has and will be brought up again, hardly makes them whole. And I am not at all arguing against her testifying, I am saying we should know, but we should be ready for all that comes with it. It isn’t going to be a public slaughter, we should be ready for that, too. Because that is reality, not because that is how I want it to be.

Don’t put words into my mouth.

Posted by: Piper at July 29, 2025 05:12 PM (p4NUW)

239 Minnesota National Guard activated, state of emergency declared after cyberattack against St. Paul
Posted by: SMOD

National Guard for a cyberattack?

I'm envisioning them all hopping into gaming chairs and putting on VR goggles.....

Posted by: mikeski in the shell at July 29, 2025 05:12 PM (DgGvY)

240 Don’t put words into my mouth.
Posted by: Piper at July 29, 2025 05:12 PM (p4NUW)

His last comment went bye,bye

Posted by: It's me donna at July 29, 2025 05:13 PM (VE6XX)

241 Minnesota National Guard activated, state of emergency declared after “Mostly Peaceful” cyberattack against St. Paul

Posted by: SMOD at July 29, 2025 05:13 PM (nRImN)

242 I met Christopher Lloyd at a hotel in Austin, Texas one summer. Really nice guy.

Remember Jim from Taxi? That was no act. Christopher Lloyd is exactly like that.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at July 29, 2025 05:13 PM (k9OZB)

243 241 Minnesota National Guard activated, state of emergency declared after “Mostly Peaceful” cyberattack against St. Paul
Posted by: SMOD at July 29, 2025 05:13 PM (nRImN)

Why call up the Guard ?

Posted by: It's me donna at July 29, 2025 05:14 PM (VE6XX)

244 Christopher Lloyd is exactly like that.
Posted by: hobbitopoly

Damn. Damn damn.

Posted by: Bulg at July 29, 2025 05:14 PM (77rzZ)

245 His last comment went bye,bye

More than just that, I think. That was a very big stutter in the Matrix.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 29, 2025 05:14 PM (EXyHK)

246 Saw that lousy Notre Dame coach Jerry Faust in the South Bend Airport once.
=
Ha. He thanked me for cleaning the toilet in his office bathroom at moeller high school. (I worked off my tuition doing janitor work in summer.) Some painters had dumped a can of latex paint on it. Asked my name, and remembered me by name after that. Until he left two years later. Nice guy. Jiminy Cricket was his favorite expletive.

Posted by: The banality of evil is part of the kink at July 29, 2025 05:14 PM (TvxAf)

247 I see that following the shooting in NY, Hochul has called for a nationwide ban of "assault weapons." I'm calling for a ban on idiot assault politicians.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 29, 2025 05:11 PM (W/lyH)

Make tactical shotguns great again.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 29, 2025 05:14 PM (snZF9)

248 Nood. Cincinnati.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 29, 2025 05:14 PM (ExV1e)

249 I had lunch with Theodore Sturgeon

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Fun fact. Theodore Sturgeon inspired Kurt Vonnegut's creation of fictional syfy author Kilgore Trout.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Lying Dogface Pony Soldier at July 29, 2025 05:15 PM (L/fGl)

250 You met Judge Doom!?

Posted by: garrett at July 29, 2025 05:15 PM (oSEaw)

251 if ac yberattack shuts down the law enforcement systems, the free stuff crowd might be out in force

Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 29, 2025 05:15 PM (CWTWj)

252 re: the ages of the girls.

Some / many of them were legal to have sex with in some of the places where they had sex. FL age of consent is 18, NY is 17, USVI is 16, NM is 16.

And many were not legal to have sex with anywhere in the US, because they were 14 or 15.

That's not really the point here. The people who had sex with these girls would very obviously not want it out there that they had sex with a 16 year old girl in New Mexico that was flown there by Jeffrey Epstein to have sex with them, even if technically it's not statutory rape in that situation. They'd go to some pretty extreme lengths to keep that information from going public, I would think.

So the question is, who set up this entire operation and to what ends, and what did they get out of it? If the true answer is that Epstein is a lone wolf, then I can't imagine any reason the entire FBI and CIA files on Epstein are not already public.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 29, 2025 05:15 PM (uCjyK)

253 "assault weapons." I'm calling for a ban on idiot assault politicians.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 29, 2025 05:11 PM (W/lyH)

I hate that term. Any weapon can be an assault weapon if use to assault someone. But the items in my home are defense weapons. I have many. I have a big framing hammer with a hatchet handle that is always nearby.

But it does not have the thing that goes up. And it's not black.

Posted by: Mike the Narf, Possibly White at July 29, 2025 05:15 PM (0aYVJ)

254 I want to know all about the Epstein affair. I’m used to not getting what I want.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 29, 2025 05:15 PM (u73oe)

255 I assume the request would shield her from perjury crimes if she went in front of congress and said "It's Trump, Trump did it all, Trump is actually Epstein, Trump Trump Trump trump trump etc..", which would enamor her with the left and she'd become the new mumia. Honestly, that's her best choice. I'm not sure why she wouldn't. Telling the truth gains her nothing but death. But lying is the path to leftist sainthood and freedom.

Posted by: banana Dread Pirate Summer Long Balls Dream at July 29, 2025 05:15 PM (cduTK)

256 Christopher Lloyd is exactly like that.

One of my favorite actors. So in the Taxi episode when he did his origin, he was acting then? Because he did that really well

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 29, 2025 05:16 PM (dfIr7)

257 omg, Bob Dole on Al Gore as possible President 2001+
"if Al gave a 'fireside chat', the fire'd go out"
youtu.be/DMLsB4w_UQQ

Posted by: gKWVE at July 29, 2025 05:16 PM (gKWVE)

258 funniest thing about the Astrodome was that originally it had real grass on the field. The roof wasn't clear so it all died. Then AstroTurf was created

first year: during a day game fielders had a hard time tracking a fly ball so they tried 'frosting' the panels. That killed the grass. So Monsanto developed astroturf.

It took a while to dial it in and for the first couple of years the ushers brought out buckets to catch the rain drops that leaked through the panels and frames.

Posted by: DanMan at July 29, 2025 05:17 PM (8uzBS)

259 I assume she means immunity for anything she tells Congress, not immunity for the crimes she's already been convicted and sentenced for.
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WGAF? She's world-famous for being a pedophile pimp's bottom bitch. She'll never be allowed within pimping-distance of another kid as long as she lives.

If she has meaningful testimony she's willing to make public so she can be free for the last few days of her life, then let her go.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 29, 2025 05:17 PM (Q+toM)

260 Second call. A new thread has been posted.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 29, 2025 05:19 PM (ExV1e)

261 About 8 comments got nuked.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 29, 2025 05:19 PM (qadd3)

262 The most famous person I ever met was Bobby "Evel" Knievel -- a childhood friend of my father's in Butte, MT

Met him a couple of times when he'd come to Las Vegas and he and my dad will go out drinking. My father visited him in the hospital after the famous Caesar's Palace fountains-jumping crash.

He seemed pretty nice to a young kid like me -- but definitely cocky and a con-man personality.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Marshall Plan is MORTE! at July 29, 2025 05:21 PM (h93kG)

263 I used to fly Bob Dole around KS when he was a senator. He was Funny as F---k. Always had a funny joke to tell or talk shit about people in DC. Good Guy.

Posted by: DBCoooper at July 29, 2025 05:21 PM (FRYiK)

264 "It confuses me when he says that only the Father knows the hour. If the Son and the Holy Spirit are also God, why don't they know the hour, too?"

The Trinity is a mystery. Three persons, one God. Of the same substance, but three persons.

Not three Gods, because there is unity in the Trinity.

Our minds are too small to understand.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 29, 2025 05:23 PM (ZmEVT)

265 None of these scumbags need her protection. Burn them all!

Give up the entire "list."

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 29, 2025 05:27 PM (u/fjM)

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