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Gardening, Home and Nature Thread, July 26

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Spotted in a raised garden bed at a local assisted living facility where my mother lives. Not ours but they caught our attention.

Cheers,
TRex

A lovely scene for residents of that facility and a great photo! Thanks for sending it in!

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Bleg:

Hello,

I hope you can help me. I've been a (really) long-time lurker at Ace of Spades HQ, and was wondering if you still have links to the old gardening threads.

Way back when-- unfortunately, I don't have a date, or this would be much easier -- there was a thread on Christmas/Thanksgiving cactuses. The advice in it was invaluable..... among other things, we finally understood why my father's cactus, would bloom twice a year, once around thanksgiving, and once again in early spring.

Unfortunately, I didn't think to save the thread, and various internet searches have turned up nothing.

Is there any hope?

Thanks,
Heather

There's a video with information in the post on 12/2/23 and more information on 11/22/14.

There are a couple of other mentions and photos, too. Anybody else have tips on growing these cacti?

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Tom Servo's Christmas Cactus blooms in November

Edible Gardening/Putting Things By

From the famous Pat*

My second “learn by doing (it wrong)" garden lesson: The first one was letting tomato vines grow to maturity in the compost pile. I didn’t get many tomatoes, and all their roots made it hard to dig out and use that compost.

Lesson Two: Last fall, I put my “Largest Zucchini” Fair entry atop the compost and let it sit. This spring, I noticed sprouts growing from its seeds, so I took one (composted the rest!) and planted it, thinking I would get a jump on the season that way. These blimps are what I got. I believe the zucchini got… promiscuous… with the pumpkins, since they’re both Cucurbita pepo. I had to pull out the plant and put in fresh seed. I’m hoping I’ll get a few actual zucchini by the end of the summer.

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Yes, this is a common result if you allow squashes to cross-breed in the garden. If you get volunteers, you can try eating them when they are extra-small.

Melons are the same way. And you can also get weird offspring from hybrid seeds even if you only plant one variety! Offspring of hybrid melons can be especially weird!

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Ah, Nature

Bringing nature home:

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Carnivorous plant bog from Field Marshal Zhukov

Nice idea!

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My pitcher plant is small but mighty--it put out a flower. Oddly enough the flower is bigger than the pitcher top. Not due to perspective!

Lirio100

Beautiful! Both the flower and the pitchers are features. Compare to the pitcher plant in the photo just above.

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Puttering

We had a question about fennel recently. See mythology below. It may be possible to be too attractive for your own good.

This is a good time of year to plant fennel and lettuce on broken terra cotta if you want them to wither quickly and die.

On the other hand, if you decide to make sausage after hunting wild boar (be careful), some fennel seed from plants located where they will not interfere with the growth of other plants could be a tasty addition.

Daily Dose of History:

One of the most popular and enduring stories from Greek mythology is that of Aphrodite and Adonis. It has inspired numerous pieces of art and has been the subject of many adaptations and retellings. Shakespeare’s narrative poem “Venus and Adonis,” for example, is believed to be his first published work.

As with most Greek mythology, the backstory is complicated and bizarre. Suffice it to say that Adonis was regarded as extraordinarily beautiful and the goddesses Aphrodite and Persephone both fell madly in love with him. They went to Zeus to have their rivalry resolved and he decreed that Adonis would spend one third of each year with Aphrodite, one third with Persephone, and one third however he liked. According to the story, Adonis chose to spend his one-third allotment with Aphrodite, so that he was with her two-thirds of the year and with Persephone (Queen of the Underworld) the other third. While Adonis was in the arms of Aphrodite, the story went, crops and fruit grew abundantly, and the sun shined brightly. But when he was with Persephone, winter set upon the land.

Adonis met a tragic death. He was gored by a wild boar while hunting and died in the arms of his weeping lover Aphrodite. The death of Adonis is associated with red roses and anemone. Although the details vary among the accounts, the first red roses (ever after a symbol of romantic love) sprang up from the blood of Adonis and anemone are said to have sprung up from the ground when Aphrodite’s tears dropped to earth (in some versions the associations are reversed).

The veneration of Adonis and the remembrance of his death is attested to in documentary evidence as early as the 7th century BC. Ancient Greek women celebrated the Festival of Adonia annually, with singing, dancing, ritual mourning, and the planting of “Gardens of Adonis”— fennel and lettuce seeds sown in broken pieces of terracotta and placed on rooftops to sprout, wither, and die, in representation of the tragic life of Adonis.

The painting is “Adonis Changed into Anemone” by Nicolas Bernard Lépicié (1782).

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As a reminder, the anemones would likely be the red anemones below, the State Flower of Israel (from Biden's Dog)

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Gardens of The Horde

We have toritos (Tribulus terrestris, Puncturevine) in our garden. What's going on in your garden?

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Hope everyone has a nice weekend.


If you would like to send photos, stories, links, etc. for the Saturday Gardening, Puttering and Adventure Thread, the address is:

ktinthegarden at g mail dot com

Remember to include the nic or name by which you wish to be known at AoSHQ, or let us know if you want to remain a lurker.

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Week in Review

What has changed since last week's thread? Gardening, Home and Nature Thread, July 19

Any thoughts or questions? Pest control tips, fungicides, harvest reports, eic. Kindltot had directions for plum jam:

Plum jam: about 4-5 cups of cooked plums, add the powdered pectin and lemon juice, let come to a boil on high heat until you get foam you can't stir down. add 4-6 cups of sugar, bring to a boil, and then bring up to the jelly stage either by thermometer, or by knowing how to judge how the jam runs off a wooden spoon (or both)

Can in a hot water bath.

I closed the comments on this post so you wouldn't get banned for commenting on a week-old post, but don't try it anyway.

Posted by: K.T. at 01:22 PM




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1 Gardening? So soon after pride month?

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 26, 2025 01:25 PM (yCLJY)

2 Noodled too.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 26, 2025 01:27 PM (yCLJY)

3 I just finished mowing my yard.

It's incredible the difference a cloud makes with regard to the heat on a hot summer's day.

Cloud cover = warm, but not entirely unpleasant

Sun = 20 degrees hotter, sweat starts dripping immediately

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 26, 2025 01:29 PM (IBQGV)

4 I totally appreciated the bog picture--that's how I have my dish set up. He's got a prettier pitcher plant though! I left my dish outside during winter; while the sundew didn't make it the Venus fly traps and the pitcher plant were fine. The new sundew is doing well.

Posted by: Lirio100 at July 26, 2025 01:35 PM (ky7/T)

5 For those who would like to know, in Field Marshall Zhukov's bog: from right to left: The pitcher plant is a hybrid between Sarracenia Leucophylla and what looks to be possibly a Sarracenia Rubra variety. Next is a Drosera Filiformis Filiformis, then on the left what appears to be a Drosera spatulata, both of which are Sundews, and finally a Dionea Muscipula( Venus Flytrap ). In Lirio100's pic, that pitcherplant is a Sarracenia Flava.

Posted by: Tony Litwin at July 26, 2025 01:35 PM (yW7Qk)

6 There are a couple of other mentions and photos, too. Anybody else have tips on growing these cacti?

I don't, however if you type Christmas cactus in the YouTube search field, probably a dozen vids will show up.

Devin Wallein is a gardening youtuber, his family has a greenhouse out in Chester County PA. I subbed to his channel, it's called Plant Vibrations. I remember he had a video dedicated to Christmas cactus.

Posted by: kallisto at July 26, 2025 01:36 PM (dCxaZ)

7 To Lirio100: depending on where you live, carnivorous plants should be kept outdoors in full sun. All CP will die back during the winter and will come back in the spring. If kept outdoors, they will thrive if kept moist to wet and will catch their own prey.

Posted by: Tony Litwin at July 26, 2025 01:38 PM (yW7Qk)

8 Thanks for checking in, Tony!

Posted by: KT at July 26, 2025 01:42 PM (xekrU)

9 Good afternoon Greenthumbs
Finally see a cucumber on those volunteers vines in the garden.

Posted by: Skip at July 26, 2025 01:46 PM (+qU29)

10 To KT: Howdy and hope all is well with you and you are staying cool.

Posted by: Tony Litwin at July 26, 2025 01:46 PM (yW7Qk)

11 I have my first ripening tomato. Unfortunately, it's on a vine that has the ick and has to go.

Posted by: huerfano at July 26, 2025 01:48 PM (n2swS)

12 Tony Litwin at July 26, 2025 01:46 PM

Thanks!. Doing okay for now, and we're cooling off for a couple of days from our earlier triple digits.

Posted by: KT at July 26, 2025 01:49 PM (xekrU)

13 The company I got my plants from made that very clear! The dish sits on my porch that gets afternoon by noon. I was nervous about leaving the dish since it gets cold enough to snow here but I only lost the sundew. Thank you for the ID on the pitcher plant, I hadn't made a note of that one.

Posted by: Lirio100 at July 26, 2025 01:53 PM (ky7/T)

14 I'm humbled and gratified to see a picture of my Christmas Cactus used! Although for me it's actually a Thanksgiving Cactus; it consistently blooms during the 4th week of November. We have it positioned in a room that we don't use much at night, so it mostly gets only natural lighting, and it does have a good window exposure. From what I've read, they bloom after they have very consistently been in darkness for 13 hours a day, for about 8 weeks. That's why the time of their blooming can be controlled, if you're careful and consistent.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 26, 2025 01:57 PM (uWKK8)

15 My gladiolus are done blooming. I wanted to keep the hummingbirds around so I put up a couple of feeders. Took a couple of days for them to discover them, but I have regular visitors now. With this heat, I'm being very careful to clean them out every couple of days.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 26, 2025 01:59 PM (2UnvF)

16 I stepped on one of those "toritos" a couple of days ago, and I still feel some pain where it came out though there is not sign of a splinter. Feels better with a shoe on. The spot is just in front of the arch support.

Posted by: KT at July 26, 2025 01:59 PM (xekrU)

17 I'm eating a salad with tomatoes from my garden, fresh mozzarella, cici beans, bacon bits, and vinaigrette.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 26, 2025 01:59 PM (kpS4V)

18 To Lirio100: just to let you know, the reason why your pitcher plant is flowering is because all American CP need a period of cold so they can rest. The more cold to a degree, the more flowers. I don't know what type of Sundew you had, but if it was an American it should have made it thru the winter, whereas most overseas Sundews won't. As for the cold, I've had my plants freeze solid in their bogs and actually lift up out of the soil in which case I pushed them back in and come spring they did ok. What you can do is in the winter, place them closer to the house and cover them with pine straw and then let the snow cover the rest until spring.

Posted by: Tony Litwin at July 26, 2025 02:00 PM (yW7Qk)

19 Tom, Thanks for identifying your cactus. Didn't see your name in the post.

Posted by: KT at July 26, 2025 02:00 PM (xekrU)

20 My mom doesn’t garden but she raises Monarch butterflies. She’s the Monarch Whisperer.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 26, 2025 02:02 PM (aeiyZ)

21 19 Tom, Thanks for identifying your cactus. Didn't see your name in the post.
Posted by: KT at July 26, 2025 02:00 PM (xekrU)

I recognized the drapes and the chair!

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 26, 2025 02:03 PM (uWKK8)

22 It was a Drosera filiformis so not sure what happened since the other two plants were fine. I can move the dish closer and protect it better this time I do have one question--it was recommended to use distilled water, which I do. What is the problem with tap water?

Posted by: Lirio100 at July 26, 2025 02:11 PM (ky7/T)

23 As with most Greek mythology, the backstory is complicated and bizarre.

Quick summary: Greek gods were assholes and they fucked anything that wasn't fast enough to run away.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 26, 2025 02:38 PM (7xrfc)

24 Nectarine season here. This is a good climate for nectarines. And pistachios. Dusty due to orchard prep for pistachio and almond harvests.

Posted by: KT at July 26, 2025 02:39 PM (xekrU)

25 KT, when I was in northern CA, the locals called them amonds, no l pronounced.

Posted by: Ronster at July 26, 2025 02:50 PM (nTLhl)

26 I've been watching my friends' cats and watering their garden while they are on vacation.

Wednesday, I was distracted by so much going on in the house and left the sprinkler on all night. There were no puddles in the garden in the morning and it's been in the 90's most of the week. The soil was pretty dry by 5pm.

You can tell they are they parents of small kids. I left them frantic voicemails. They called me back, I told them about the sprinkler and they were fine with it. I'm still giving them $20 for the water.

The garden is beautiful and I've been encouraging them to send pictures here. With the Mom's permission, my brother left two fake pumpkins here and I put them in the pumpkin leaves for the kids to find. Their real pumpkins are coming in real nice though!

I don't think the gardening thread needs an arch-nemesis, but if it did I'd nominate all the plastic Christmas decorations currently in my living room and the forest of plastic plants on my porch of which I'm getting rid. Back to work, Everyone have a great day.

Posted by: Stateless - HAPPY NOT HOMELESS! - New Life Creation 15.1 % at July 26, 2025 02:59 PM (jvJvP)

27 I haven't done any gardening this year, way too much stuff going on. I do enjoy seeing the Horde horticulture very much. Thank you KT.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 26, 2025 03:06 PM (0nHVk)

28 Do cheerleaders make plants root harder?

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 26, 2025 03:08 PM (IntbO)

29 I'm still giving them $20 for the water.

Same as in town?

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 26, 2025 03:10 PM (IntbO)

30 I enjoy walking with my husband in the early morning around the assisted living home. At the entrance they have beautiful Black Eyed Susans and Coneflowers and lavender and in the meadow on the property they have more flowers of various sorts . They have a garden the residents use isnd it has beautiful zinnias as well as vegetables We often see goldfinches flying around the meadow and it lifts our spirits .

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 26, 2025 03:22 PM (2GCMq)

31 Re Christmas cactus and Easter Cactus - I understand that they are sensitive to night time darkness. Too much night time artificial light can prevent blooms.

Posted by: Smellslikevictory at July 26, 2025 03:22 PM (19Jrv)

32 All the photos are great! Thanks to everybody who sent them in.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 26, 2025 03:24 PM (2GCMq)

33 Hey KT, how long ago did I send you that pic? They're quite out of season now. I'll see if I have a chance tomorrow to send you a pic of something currently around in our garden.

11PM here. Need to get some shuteye.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 26, 2025 04:03 PM (lRY8a)

34 From Boise area: Lows 57-65 F, highs 77-93. Picking strawberries, final shelling peas, early SunGold cherry tomatoes, some green beans, lavender, pickling cucumbers. Six pints of bread-n-butter pickles canned so far. Dills next.

I pulled out most of the lettuce, which has bolted, and put the leaves in the compost. I've weeded the entire 20 foot row of shelling peas. I decided to test growing fall peas so planted those today - also a few radishes. Haven't figured out a place to put an attempt at fall lettuce, so I guess that's an idea for next year.

We tried covering half the rows in the corn bed with clear plastic, in an attempt to cook all the weed seeds. Well, there are no weeds there now - but the plastic turned out to be photosensitive, and started cracking - once the cracks started, the wind blew it all to bits. I had fun, one day, making sure I'd picked up all the pieces before the lawn mower shredded them.

(Those zucchini blimps were given to friends, for their chickens.)

Puncturevine? HATE that stuff! We had some in the back yard when we moved here - it took constant patrolling for several years, and trashing all we found, to get the property caltrop-free.

Posted by: Pat* at July 26, 2025 04:32 PM (utsBX)

35 Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 26, 2025 04:03 PM

January or February, I think. Like I said, it was a reminder.

Posted by: KT at July 26, 2025 05:52 PM (xekrU)

36 To Lirio100: Sorry for missing your post, but here is your answer. Tap water has too many minerals in it to use out of the tap. Either use tap water that has been allowed to sit for several days or rain water, both of which can be caught in a barrel type catchment. You don't have to use distilled water.

As for your Filiformis, that is odd since Filiformis is native to the northeast of the US down to the panhandle of Florida. The one thing about Filiformis is that when it dies back in the winter, it makes what is called a winter bud which looks like it is dead, when it isn't. Try again with the Filiformis and when it dies back in the winter leave the plant where it is and see what happens in the spring. I'll bet it starts growing again. Hope this helps and good luck growing.

Posted by: Tony Litwin at July 27, 2025 07:21 AM (yW7Qk)

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