Mollie Hemingway Exclusive: Top Career Intelligence Officials Objected to Brennan's Partisan Russiagate Claim, Brennan Overruled Them

But wait: I thought we were supposed to defer to the nonpartisan career bureaucrats' judgments...?

It gets worse: Brennan testified to Congress that the Russiagate claim that "Russia tried to get Trump elected" was backed by analysis with a "high level of confidence."

But there wasn't. In fact, senior intelligence officials doubted his claim.

He lied. This was his personal politicized assessment, and never had "high confidence" by anyone other than himself and the Obama Regime coup ringleaders.

Top officials working on an intelligence community analysis about Russia's interference in the 2016 election were overruled by CIA Director John Brennan, according to records exclusively reviewed by The Federalist. The records are related to ongoing criminal investigations into Brennan and other top intelligence officials for their roles in launching the Russia collusion hoax.
The dispute was over the "key judgment" in a January 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA) that Russia had interfered in the election specifically because Putin and the Russian government "aspired to help President-elect Trump's election chances."
The senior intelligence officials pointed out the lack of evidence to substantiate the claim. "We have no intelligence to directly support this 'aspiration' point," said one member of the small group of individuals working with Brennan, FBI Director James Comey, and Director of National Intelligence James Clapper on the assessment of Russian activity in the lead-up to the 2016 election.
The official worried that the inclusion of the claim would "open the IC to a line of very politicized inquiry that is sure to come up when this paper is shared with the Hill." A recent CIA analysis of the inclusion of this disputed "key judgment" noted the risks of including poorly supported judgments since skeptical readers are inclined to "reject an entire analysis if a single judgment appears exaggerated, biased, or unsupported."
The experts did not disagree that Russia had continued its practice of attempting to sow chaos in presidential elections. They believed the intelligence indicated Russia sought to weaken presumptive winner Hillary Clinton and those efforts may have indirectly helped Trump. But they were concerned about the lack of evidence for the claim that became a cornerstone of the Russia collusion narrative, in which Trump was accused of conspiring with Russia to steal the 2016 election.
"Can you really prove Moscow was trying to get Trump elected?" the official asked in late December 2016.
Brennan called the dissenting individuals into his office on Dec. 30, 2016, and had a lengthy meeting in which they articulated their serious concerns. "The assessment will stay the same," Brennan reported at the end of the meeting.
The paper trail about this dispute posed a problem for Brennan, who had presented the information as being universally held with a high degree of confidence. The CIA review noted that the key judgment was given a "higher confidence level than was justified." It further noted the ICA had been drafted under an unusually rushed timeline, had been preceded by leaks to The Washington Post and New York Times improperly claiming "definitive conclusions" had already been reached, and had indications of a "potential political motive."

Much like Adam Schiff, Brennan would later claim he had seen Secret Intelligence that no one else saw, and which has never been presented to anyone else, that justified his claims.

Brennan has never publicly shared what his secret knowledge was that led him to make the claim that Russia sought to help Trump, although it had purportedly been collected in July and first disseminated on Dec. 19, to supposedly support the ICA's conclusion that Russia wanted to elect Trump. But even then, Brennan "tightly restricted access to this information." The CIA review of the ICA questioned "whether the extreme limitations on access to underlying intelligence within the IC during the ICA's preparation was justifiable," given that following its release, the highest classified version of the ICA was shopped around to literally hundreds of U.S. officials.

Read the whole thing.

Matt Taibbi has a related report. The intelligence professionals reported that Russia had not hacked the actual vote. They concluded that Russia lacked both the intent and even the capability of "hacking the election" -- an allegation the drunken harridan Hillary Clinton was making.

But Brennan stripped this out of the presidential daily briefing.

Taibbi thinks he knows why: Because Trump, as president-elect, would have read it. He was entitled to read the presidential daily briefs as president-elect, and if the real intelligence had been in the PBD, he would have seen it and used that conclusion to refute the fictional "Russia hacked the election" psyop.

Again, this was no fringe conspiracy theory, as Democrats are claiming now, to downplay the importance of Brennan's deception: Hillary Clinton was giving speeches claiming that Russia literally "hacked the election."

One is a crucial fact left out of Saturday's Racket article on the DNI releases. Had the intelligence community gone forward with a Presidential Daily Briefing that said Russia had not attacked infrastructure in a way "intended to alter results," it would have been seen by a key audience: Donald Trump. Presidents-elect are entitled to read Presidential Daily Briefings. During the transition, Trump's National Security Adviser Michael Flynn was already being read in, and would have seen the planned December 9th text downplaying Russian interference.
"I would have seen it," Flynn says now. "I was reading the PDBs at that point." Asked yesterday if he thought that might have been a reason for holding the planned draft, Flynn said, "Very likely."
Second, the notion that Russia interfered with actual vote tallies was no fringe conspiracy theory then. It was widely believed by Democratic voters. This was almost certainly a consequence of a two stage process that began with the flood of news stories based on leaks from intelligence sources beginning on December 9th, 2016. These not only alleged Russia interfered to help Donald Trump in an aburpt about-face from pre-election stories, but focused heavily on Russian hacking.
Within a week -- by December 16th, 2016 -- Hillary Clinton was publicly calling the election "unfair, not free, illegitimate," adding, "Vladimir Putin himself directed the covert cyberattacks against our electoral system, against our democracy, apparently because he has a personal beef against me." The New York Times ran the audio:

See the article for Hillary Clinton claiming, WITHOUT EVIDENCE, that Russia "hacked the election."

Longtime readers may remember that I asked on Twitter why CNN wasn't knocking down this WITHOUT EVIDENCE conspiracy theory, and Jake Tapper slid in my DMs to say: "Cite?" And I told him: It was literally on your show five minutes ago, presented in a pre-recorded package that you obviously did not bother watching or listening to. Tapper apparently blows off watching his own show to immediately rush to Twitter to patrol for any negative mentions of himself or CNN.

An Economist/YouGov survey taken immediately after these remarks, on December 17th-20th, 2016, showed 50% of Clinton's voters believed Russia "tampered with vote tallies":

So the feral lesbian alcoholic Hillary Clinton was spreading this false WITHOUT EVIDENCE claim and Obama was meanwhile stripping out the consensus nonpartisan career intelligence officials' assessment that this conspiracy theory was simply not true. And they stripped out that intelligence to deprive Trump of the ability to refute the drunken gassy sow's WITHOUT EVIDENCE conspiracy theories.

Meanwhile Jake Tapper is also blowing off Hillary Clinton's attack on The Very Pillars of Our Sacred Democracy, to obsessively scan Twitter to make sure that no one in the world has any criticisms of him.

Obama pushed Hillary Clinton's false claims to the public as well.

In addition to the disinformation ICA he directed at Congress and the public, Obama directly lied to Americans in speeches about Russian election interference. For example, on Dec. 16, 2016, Obama stated he was "concerned about ... potential hacking that could hamper vote counting and affect the actual election process itself. And so in early September, when I saw President Putin in China, I felt that the most effective way to ensure that, that didn't happen was to talk to him directly. And tell him to cut it out."
At that time, however, Obama had to know U.S. intelligence agencies had assessed that statement to be false, because his staff had prevented the publication of an earlier intelligence assessment saying so, the newly released documents show. This also means the same people and agencies that erected a totalitarian censorship edifice under the pretext of "misinformation" and "disinformation" were in fact the top sources of widely believed misinformation and disinformation that have now affected at least three U.S. presidential elections.

Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama exchanged emails to coordinate the WITHOUT EVIDENCE psyop.

There's now mounting evidence -- texts, emails, and corroborating testimony -- that senior Obama officials and Clinton campaign aides knew the Russian "interference" narrative was bogus yet pushed it anyway as a calculated smear campaign to protect their political power. According to reporting by Paul Sperry at Real Clear Investigations, damning communications reveal direct coordination between Clinton operatives and top figures across the Obama administration, including the White House, National Security Council, State Department, and intelligence agencies. The fix wasn't just suspected; it was orchestrated from the very beginning.

Paul Sperry
@paulsperry_
DEVELOPING: I'm told there are texts/emails indicating Hillary Clinton campaign aides directly coordinated with the Obama White House, NSC, State Dept and Intelligence Community officials in efforts to dig up dirt tying Donald Trump to Vladimir Putin in July 2016 ...developing...

And finally: Don't forget that Comey was in such a mad rush to exonerate Hillary Clinton for stealing gigabytes of top secret US documents that he didn't even bother to examine thumbdrives containing the documents.

A newly-declassified appendix to a years-old Justice Department watchdog report shows that then-FBI Director James Comey was swayed to preemptively announce the end of the bureau's investigation into Hillary Clinton based on mysterious classified intelligence reports -- and that the FBI failed to investigate thumbdrives containing potentially key information about use of an illicit private email server.
The details are part of a classified appendix to DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz's 2018 report criticizing the politicized conduct of the FBI's Midyear Exam investigation into Clinton's mishandling of classified information through the use of a private server while she was secretary of state.
Comey unilaterally announced in a July 2016 speech -- about four months before Election Day for the Democratic presidential nomine -- the investigation had been concluded with charges being brought against her.
At about the same time, the FBI formally launched its Crossfire Hurricane investigation into claims that the campaign for the GOP presidential nominee, Donald Trump, was colluding with Russia to influence the outcome of the election.
"This document shows an extreme lack of effort and due diligence in the FBI's investigation of former Secretary Clinton's email usage and mishandling of highly classified information," Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, said Monday as he released the classified appendix to the DOJ watchdog report.

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1 Let the accusations fly!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 22, 2025 01:21 PM (tT6L1)

2 Let a million criminal referrals hit the DOJ!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 22, 2025 01:21 PM (tT6L1)

3 Nood be done.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 22, 2025 01:22 PM (tT6L1)

4 Brennan would be a good start for a indictment in the Coup D'etat

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2025 01:23 PM (+qU29)

5 Let's see if any of this matters.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 22, 2025 01:23 PM (N1DT3)

6 Buried lede:

Career officials shut up and didn't say anything.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 22, 2025 01:23 PM (GBKbO)

7 Read the whole thing?

I got work to do. Make me.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 22, 2025 01:24 PM (Pce4l)

8 Andrew McCarthy at NRO insists this is a nothing burger because "there's nothing didn't know already."

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 22, 2025 01:24 PM (6rbLO)

9 I want the weak link arrested and, once they're done sniveling and crying for mommy, really get down and dirty.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 22, 2025 01:24 PM (tT6L1)

10 If you can't trust Obama, the Democrats and the Deep State, just who can you trust?

Posted by: Stateless - HAPPY and NOT HOMELESS - New Life Creation - 14.3% at July 22, 2025 01:25 PM (jvJvP)

11 It's kind of fun watching things collapse.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 22, 2025 01:25 PM (jjoN6)

12
With mail in voting, you never get to see the voters who actually vote. You have no clue as to who is actually voting.

Posted by: Frank Barone at July 22, 2025 01:25 PM (IifOV)

13 8 Andrew McCarthy at NRO insists this is a nothing burger because "there's nothing didn't know already."
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 22, 2025 01:24 PM (6rbLO)

======

"We already knew that Obama orchestrated an IC effort to undermine the elected will of the people, and that's okay even though we have direct evidence now. I'm a lawyer."
-Andy McCarthy, boob

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 22, 2025 01:25 PM (GBKbO)

14 Hell, even if Russia was trying to get Trump elected instead of a dumbfuck Democrat they'd already corrupted (Hilary)...it's still a nothingburger.

Foreign nations try to influence our elections every cycle. Hi China! Fuck off, China!

This was just an attempt to delegitimize Trump, naked ugly ottoman politics, nothing more.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 22, 2025 01:25 PM (xcxpd)

15 NO ~~PERSON~~ ~~VOTE~~ BALLOT IS ILLEGAL!!!

Posted by: leftists at July 22, 2025 01:25 PM (ULPxl)

16 Brennan simply looks like a villian from a Bond movie or comic book. With his beady evil eyes and ugly, fat, bald head, stumpy penguin body.

I think I hate him. I try not to think about him, but I would watch his perp walk.

Comey looks like a mutant giraffe who plays with shells. I'd watch his perp walk.

Hil Hag being perped walked I would break out the champagne! And get wasted. Totally worth a hangover!

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 22, 2025 01:25 PM (6PCLE)

17 Hildabeast emails all went down the Rabbit hole having a private email system for government work.

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2025 01:25 PM (+qU29)

18 Leftists then: Any claims that Soviet Russia could or would interfere with our elections are racist, hate fill garbage. There are no Russians hiding under your beds people

Leftists now: The Russians hacked our elections! THEY ARE HIDING UNDER YOUR BED RIGHT NOW

Posted by: 18-1 at July 22, 2025 01:25 PM (t0Rmr)

19
Some people may have done some things.
Mistakes may have been made.
If so, they were in the exuberance of the moment.
Old news.
What difference, at this point, does it make?
Time to move on.

Posted by: Democrats and the MSM at July 22, 2025 01:26 PM (0sNs1)

20 11 It's kind of fun watching things collapse.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 22, 2025 01:25 PM (jjoN6)

It keeps me buying ammo every few months, for sure.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 22, 2025 01:26 PM (xcxpd)

21 6 Buried lede:

Career officials shut up and didn't say anything.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 22, 2025 01:23 PM (GBKbO)

The most important thing is them making it home to their families every night.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 22, 2025 01:27 PM (RlmPm)

22 I'm a lawyer."
-Andy McCarthy, boob
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 22, 2025 01:25 PM (GBKbO)

Him being a lawyer is not the flex he thinks it is...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 22, 2025 01:27 PM (xcxpd)

23 We're out of here until September for summer vacaycay. You guys figure this all out by the time we get back. We need the rest.

Posted by: Mike Johnson at July 22, 2025 01:27 PM (/U5Yz)

24 The left in 2012: There is no election fraud. Period

The left in 2016: This election was stolen!

The left in 2020: Any claims that one of our sacred elections in our holy democracy could ever be even touch with fraud is a lie. And anyone making such a lie should go to prison

The left in 2024: This election was stolen!

Posted by: 18-1 at July 22, 2025 01:27 PM (t0Rmr)

25 I was walking along the beach yesterday and I saw a bunch of seashells that had spontaneously lined up:

"John Brennan is a lying communist piece of shit who treats neighborhood kids like crap and whose abilities with a backyard grill makes Chuck Schumer look like Bobby Fucking Flay"

Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 22, 2025 01:27 PM (fz7Mb)

26 Jake Tapper slid in my DMs to say: "Cite?" And I told him: It was literally on your show five minutes ago, presented in a pre-recorded package that you obviously did not bother watching or listening to. Tapper apparently blows off watching his own show to immediately rush to Twitter to patrol for any negative mentions of himself or CNN.
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Yes, the ancient scrolls of 202something. Finally, a reward for sticking around so long. That was a good write up, Ace.

Posted by: scampydog at July 22, 2025 01:27 PM (2bFN5)

27 I saw Feral Lesbian Alcoholics open for Melissa Etheridge at Lilith Fair in '98.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 22, 2025 01:27 PM (PiwSw)

28 The most important thing is them making it home to their families every night.

In fairness this is a more serious concern for them then it is for Officer Donut.

Posted by: Seth Rich at July 22, 2025 01:28 PM (t0Rmr)

29 Willowed, but on-topic:

You have to be at war with someone to commit treason?

Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2025 01:15 PM (2hq3T)

18 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

>>>The term “enemies,” as used in the second clause, according to its settled meaning, at the time the constitution was adopted, applies only to the subjects of a foreign power in a state of open hostility with us. It does not embrace rebels in insurrection against their own government.

UNITED STATES v. GREATHOUSE et al.

Disclaimer: I make no guarantees whether GREATHOUSE is current law.

Point is generally that people misuse the T-word often. Does that require Congressional Declaration of War? I leave that to Whig.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 22, 2025 01:28 PM (i24o9)

30 Career officials shut up and didn't say anything.

What difference at this point does it make? --career officials

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 22, 2025 01:28 PM (ExV1e)

31 Mistakes were made. It's time to move on ©

Posted by: brak at July 22, 2025 01:28 PM (jGJov)

32 I notice, in Mollie's article, Brennan used the weasel word "aspired."

Well, I aspire to be a billionaire. Doesn't mean I succeeded. In fact, it's quite obvious I didn't.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 22, 2025 01:28 PM (tT6L1)

33 I don't want Obama jailed or arrested.

I want him stripped of citizenship and exiled.

And all US aid, assistance and visas denied to any country that takes him in.
Including denying re-entry to any US citizen who even visits that country.

I want him to be the Man Without a Country.

Let him die alone, unwanted, and forgotten.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 22, 2025 01:28 PM (yxVqi)

34 24 The left in 2012: There is no election fraud. Period

The left in 2016: This election was stolen!

The left in 2020: Any claims that one of our sacred elections in our holy democracy could ever be even touch with fraud is a lie. And anyone making such a lie should go to prison

The left in 2024: This election was stolen!
Posted by: 18-1 at July 22, 2025 01:27 PM (t0Rmr)

Slight addition, the 2000 and 2004 elections were stolen, per the Left.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 22, 2025 01:28 PM (xcxpd)

35 Brennan simply looks like a villian from a Bond movie or comic book. With his beady evil eyes and ugly, fat, bald head, stumpy penguin body.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 22, 2025 01:25 PM

There is iron in the words of ChristyBlinkyTheGreat for all right-thinking Morons to see.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 22, 2025 01:28 PM (0sNs1)

36
It keeps me buying ammo every few months, for sure.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo

You can rent a forklift from EZ Rentals.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 22, 2025 01:28 PM (/U5Yz)

37 What happened to Brennan's neck? Did he have one once?

Posted by: Still lurking up north, read some, don't comment much at July 22, 2025 01:29 PM (kTd/k)

38 >>> 33 I don't want Obama jailed or arrested.

I want him stripped of citizenship and exiled.

And all US aid, assistance and visas denied to any country that takes him in.
Including denying re-entry to any US citizen who even visits that country.

I want him to be the Man Without a Country.

Let him die alone, unwanted, and forgotten.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 22, 2025 01:28 PM (yxVqi)

I like it.

He shouldn't be the only one on that list.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 22, 2025 01:29 PM (ULPxl)

39 I had always imagined that the Bureau and the Agency were rather at odds with each other, and actively sought to screw each other over whenever possible.

But there's an awful lot of footsie going on between them, isn't there?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 22, 2025 01:29 PM (RlmPm)

40 Drunken gassy sow
*pure poetry*

Posted by: torabora at July 22, 2025 01:30 PM (G0jjl)

41 Kinda fits in here.

Funny thread. Conspiracy theories you totally believe.

https://is.gd/te7blH

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at July 22, 2025 01:30 PM (iQ1wk)

42 >>>nd that the FBI failed to investigate thumbdrives containing potentially key information about use of an illicit private email server.

who wants to look through gigabytes of yoga routines and recipes anyway?

Posted by: brak at July 22, 2025 01:30 PM (jGJov)

43 No idea what happened to McCarthy

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2025 01:30 PM (+qU29)

44 Brennan simply looks like a villian from a Bond movie or comic book. With his beady evil eyes and ugly, fat, bald head, stumpy penguin body.

I used to laugh at how over the top Bond villains were.

But now I look at the WEF and Democrat leadership and I realize I owe Mr Fleming an apology

Posted by: 18-1 at July 22, 2025 01:30 PM (t0Rmr)

45 gnos·tic
[ˈnästik]
adjective
- relating to knowledge, especially esoteric mystical knowledge

Posted by: SMOD at July 22, 2025 01:30 PM (RHGPo)

46 Buried lede:

Career officials shut up and didn't say anything.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 22, 2025 01:23 PM (GBKbO)

Yeah, like the "HAM 'N EGGERS" at the FBI, they saw blatant lies and injustice and just mealy-mouthed some objections then put their heads down and shut up.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 22, 2025 01:31 PM (N1DT3)

47 I saw The Feral Lesbian Alcoholics open for Pussy Riot at the Vladivostok Summer Jam.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 22, 2025 01:31 PM (wVcYX)

48 Since the "media" never accurately covered the Hillary scandal, its important to remember:

Her home-brew network was completely against Federal rules and undoubtedly security-compromised to the degree that is logical to assume that EVERY SINGLE email she drafted, sent, and received was read by governmentS (plural) all over the globe. She was SECRETARY OF STATE at the time, so her willful disobedience almost certainly outted US assets, plans, and strategies.

This isn't the "its just some emails" nonsense the "media" would like to continue pretending it was.

Posted by: Crusader at July 22, 2025 01:31 PM (TN0g+)

49 The most important thing is them making it home to their families every night.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 22, 2025 01:27 PM (RlmPm)

More importantly, they can snuggle up to the early luxurious retirement pension.

Posted by: Beartooth at July 22, 2025 01:31 PM (8wKVG)

50 >>>An Economist/YouGov survey taken immediately after these remarks, on December 17th-20th, 2016, showed 50% of Clinton's voters believed Russia "tampered with vote tallies":

It was a running joke/point of mockery at the time that leftists believed that Russia hacked the election. The damage from the Clinton/Brennan/Obama/Comey conspiracy is real, spectacular, widespread, and enduring.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 22, 2025 01:31 PM (i24o9)

51 >>> 44
==
I used to laugh at how over the top Bond villains were.

But now I look at the WEF and Democrat leadership and I realize I owe Mr Fleming an apology
Posted by: 18-1 at July 22, 2025 01:30 PM (t0Rmr)

*points at Klaus Schwab*

See? SEE?!?!?!

Posted by: Zombie Ian Fleming at July 22, 2025 01:31 PM (ULPxl)

52 had always imagined that the Bureau and the Agency were rather at odds with each other, and actively sought to screw each other over whenever possible.

But there's an awful lot of footsie going on between them, isn't there?
Posted by:
*****
The make-up sex is lit.

Posted by: torabora at July 22, 2025 01:31 PM (G0jjl)

53 Magic 🎱 Will Brennan, Comey or Clapper go to prison?

Posted by: redridinghood at July 22, 2025 01:31 PM (NpAcC)

54 8 Andrew McCarthy at NRO insists this is a nothing burger because "there's nothing didn't know already."
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 22, 2025 01:24 PM (6rbLO)

He can F Off... I'm not a fan

Posted by: It's me donna at July 22, 2025 01:32 PM (VE6XX)

55 Point is generally that people misuse the T-word often. Does that require Congressional Declaration of War? I leave that to Whig.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 22, 2025 01:28 PM (i24o9)

Now I'm wondering who the last person to be convicted of Treason was.

Benedict Arnold, perhaps.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2025 01:32 PM (wYC45)

56 Tapper apparently blows off watching his own show

He's no different than anyone else.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 22, 2025 01:32 PM (k3Vs9)

57 Funny thread. Conspiracy theories you totally believe.

The "recycling goes to the same landfill as trash" one has been proven several times.

I don't think that means all recycling does but...it is a common occurrence.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 22, 2025 01:32 PM (t0Rmr)

58 Presidents-elect are entitled to festive little hats.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 22, 2025 01:32 PM (cXyzu)

59 Brennan simply looks like a villian from a Bond movie or comic book. With his beady evil eyes and ugly, fat, bald head, stumpy penguin body.

--

I met him and his wife at an HOA meeting when I was on the board.

His wife is awesome. Truly.

Brennan on the other hand - he was obsessed with trying to intimidate everyone there. This was shortly after his nom and he was there to explain the presence of all those Suburbans and people patrolling the neighborhood. He gave off the air of someone who was annoyed at having to even show up and talk to the little people.

A1 blue ribbon choice high tech state of the art Olympic class asshole.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 22, 2025 01:32 PM (eD91D)

60 I don't want Obama jailed or arrested.

I want him stripped of citizenship and exiled.
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To Kenya, where he's from.

Posted by: Crusader at July 22, 2025 01:32 PM (TN0g+)

61 Drunken gassy sows?

What are we, chopped liver?

Posted by: The Panelists of The View at July 22, 2025 01:32 PM (0sNs1)

62
And I told him: It was literally on your show five minutes ago, presented in a pre-recorded package that you obviously did not bother watching or listening to. Tapper apparently blows off watching his own show

Kind like how certain furry extraterrestrials don't read their own blog?

(Just busting your balls a bit, Wicket. Please don't beat me down like a hobo...)

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 22, 2025 01:32 PM (y9nCu)

63 🎱

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 22, 2025 01:32 PM (fp/uw)

64 I want him to be the Man Without a Country.

-
Or balls.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at July 22, 2025 01:33 PM (iQ1wk)

65 No reasonable prosecutor.

Posted by: Eromero at July 22, 2025 01:33 PM (LHPAg)

66
Throw Hillary in prison and in two weeks her Sapphic Mafia will be shivving inmates and cornering the market in makeup and deodorant.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 22, 2025 01:33 PM (HZi96)

67 Now I'm wondering who the last person to be convicted of Treason was.

Benedict Arnold, perhaps.
Posted by: BurtTC

Julius & Ethel Rosenberg?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 22, 2025 01:33 PM (k3Vs9)

68 "The punishment.... is DEATH!!!
....
What? Ok, fine, whatever. Five years.
...
And gimme ten grand, too, you little fucker."

What the hell, Law. Pick a lane.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 22, 2025 01:33 PM (RlmPm)

69 *pure poetry*

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 22, 2025 01:33 PM (dKEEs)

70 Why isn't a single one of these people in an orange suit yet?

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 22, 2025 01:33 PM (VFv8R)

71 The "recycling goes to the same landfill as trash" one has been proven several times.
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I bet if we had God's eyes we'd discover that almost ever penny spent on "the planet" involves grift and little else.

Posted by: Crusader at July 22, 2025 01:33 PM (TN0g+)

72 Firing squad. Bayonet the survivors.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at July 22, 2025 01:34 PM (Mw0NW)

73 Multiple choice quiz:

Hillary!'s scent is:

a) Mothballs
b) Desperation
c) Pee
d) Scotch
e) Poop
f) All The Above

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at July 22, 2025 01:34 PM (k1E2D)

74 Laws only apply to the proletariot.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 22, 2025 01:34 PM (fp/uw)

75 >>> 57 Funny thread. Conspiracy theories you totally believe.
==
The "recycling goes to the same landfill as trash" one has been proven several times.

I don't think that means all recycling does but...it is a common occurrence.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 22, 2025 01:32 PM (t0Rmr)

Sending recycling materials on a slow boat to CHYna to be burned there or just dumped overboard about halfway across the Pacific is *NOT* sending it to the same landfill as trash.

Debunked!!!

Posted by: Snopes at July 22, 2025 01:34 PM (ULPxl)

76 I don't want Obama jailed or arrested.

I want him stripped of citizenship and exiled.
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To Kenya, where he's from.
Posted by: Crusader

From the Bee:

Obama Argues He Can’t Be Charged With Treason Since He Wasn’t Born In America

Posted by: rickb223 at July 22, 2025 01:34 PM (k3Vs9)

77 A lot of 'without evidence' up there.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 22, 2025 01:34 PM (cEEir)

78 And finally: Don't forget that Comey was in such a mad rush to exonerate Hillary Clinton for stealing gigabytes of top secret US documents that he didn't even bother to examine thumbdrives containing the documents.
>>

Carter Page, FISA Courts, Trump campaign surveillance, "Insurance".

Posted by: mrp at July 22, 2025 01:34 PM (rj6Yv)

79 I wonder not what, but how much nasty dirt, Brennan, Clapper, and Comey had on Barky. And on Hillzebub.

Posted by: Gref at July 22, 2025 01:34 PM (aBgBM)

80 Right now, everyone over there is in personal ass protection mode. Gabbard went as far as to say the "Whistleblowers are coming out of the woodwork. Multitudes."

So, essentially, while this was in operation, they kept their self-important mouths shut so as to protect their individual careers. Now, they are pouring through the cracks to ...protect their individual careers once again.

Government career employees sure do operate outside the realm of honor and integrity. That's for sure.

Posted by: Orson at July 22, 2025 01:34 PM (dIske)

81 I was walking along the beach yesterday and I saw a bunch of seashells that had spontaneously lined up:

"John Brennan is a lying communist piece of shit who treats neighborhood kids like crap and whose abilities with a backyard grill makes Chuck Schumer look like Bobby Fucking Flay"
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 22, 2025 01:27 PM (fz7Mb)

Holy shit! The sand crabs have learned to spell!

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 22, 2025 01:35 PM (g8Ew8)

82 The Dog Eater was CIC so maybe treason. Sedition probably.

The U.S. Code defines sedition as a crime involving two or more people in the United States for any of the following purposes:

To conspire to overthrow or destroy by force the government of the United States or to wage war against it
To oppose by force the authority of the United States government
To prevent, hinder, or delay by force the execution of any law of the United States
To take, seize, or possess by force any property of the United States

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 22, 2025 01:35 PM (/U5Yz)

83 I'll give them credit. They played the long game. All this bullshit helped them build up to their "fortifying" the 2020 election. "Hey, we're just stopping all that Russian interference that ruined the last election!"

I didn't know Democrats were smart enough or strategic enough to pull off a 4 year theft.

Posted by: Wally at July 22, 2025 01:35 PM (7CamO)

84
Media: There is no sense looking back! Live in the now! Forward looking!

Media: Trump sent a Birthday card in 1996!

Posted by: Frank Barone at July 22, 2025 01:35 PM (IifOV)

85 Like rats from a sinking ship.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 22, 2025 01:36 PM (JvZF+)

86 56 Tapper apparently blows off watching his own show

He's no different than anyone else.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 22, 2025 01:32 PM (k3Vs9)
So, twenty dollars, right?

Posted by: Eromero at July 22, 2025 01:36 PM (LHPAg)

87 80 Government career employees sure do operate outside the realm of honor and integrity. That's for sure.
Posted by: Orson at July 22, 2025 01:34 PM (dIske)

=======

The best way to read this is that they're lawful neutral personality types.

As long as they are convinced it's lawful to do something by a higher up, they'll do it no matter their own personal opinions on whether the action specifically is good or bad.

Lawful neutrals may be more destructive than chaotic evil people.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 22, 2025 01:36 PM (GBKbO)

88 Reports from behind enemy lines are that the effort to undo the Russia Russia Russia psyop is a deflection to squirrel away from Epstein.

As far as that goes, it's amazing that despite hundreds of women/girls in the Epstein orbit the men are still unnamed.

Posted by: torabora at July 22, 2025 01:36 PM (G0jjl)

89 Media: There is no sense looking back! Live in the now! Forward looking!

Media: Trump sent a Birthday card in 1996!
Posted by: Frank Barone at July 22, 2025 01:35 PM (IifOV)

It was 2003 !

Posted by: the media at July 22, 2025 01:36 PM (VE6XX)

90 Andrew McCarthy at NRO insists this is a nothing burger because "there's nothing didn't know already.
--
Remember: His claim to fame is the lay-up prosecution of the Blind Sheik in 9/11 era NYC; a disfigured minority who nearly caused a mass casualty event.

And, during his tenure, he allowed that terrorist's lawyer, Lynne Stewart, right under his nose, to convey messages between the sheik and his supporters--that likely resulted in several deaths.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 22, 2025 01:36 PM (yxVqi)

91 My favorite off the wall conspiracy theory...

The government made contact with what they believe are aliens. And a lot of the cultural changes the deep state/WEF types push are based on their advice.

But the aliens aren't from another planet, no they are extra-dimensional ones.

And their dimension is really, really hot and smells like sulfur.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 22, 2025 01:36 PM (t0Rmr)

92 Julius & Ethel Rosenberg?
Posted by: rickb223 at July 22, 2025 01:33 PM (k3Vs9)

Oh! Good question, did they get nailed with treason or something else?

Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2025 01:36 PM (wYC45)

93 57 Funny thread. Conspiracy theories you totally believe.

Hellen Keller was retarded never learned sign language, only her teacher could interrupt her sign language.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 22, 2025 01:37 PM (FCrpy)

94 Brennan simply looks like a villian from a Bond movie or comic book. With his beady evil eyes and ugly, fat, bald head, stumpy penguin body.

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Bootyjudge, on the other hand, looks like the Wicked Witch of the West.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at July 22, 2025 01:37 PM (iQ1wk)

95 Now I'm wondering who the last person to be convicted of Treason was.

Benedict Arnold, perhaps.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2025 01:32 PM (wYC45)

Tokyo Rose was more recent, and there was at least one GWOT person charged with Treason.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 22, 2025 01:37 PM (i24o9)

96 >>> 91 My favorite off the wall conspiracy theory...

The government made contact with what they believe are aliens. And a lot of the cultural changes the deep state/WEF types push are based on their advice.

But the aliens aren't from another planet, no they are extra-dimensional ones.

And their dimension is really, really hot and smells like sulfur.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 22, 2025 01:36 PM (t0Rmr)

*tee hee*

Posted by: Stan at July 22, 2025 01:37 PM (ULPxl)

97 Firing squad. Bayonet the survivors.
Posted by: Stu Podaso

The Santa Anna gambit. Interesting.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 22, 2025 01:37 PM (k3Vs9)

98 My open letter to John Brennan still stands

https://tinyurl.com/bdhcvmn9

Posted by: Paco at July 22, 2025 01:37 PM (mADJX)

99
Julius & Ethel Rosenberg?
Posted by: rickb223 at July 22, 2025 01:33 PM (k3Vs9)

Espionage. Mildred Gillars (Axis Sally) was convicted of treason in 1949 and paroled in 1961.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 22, 2025 01:37 PM (HZi96)

100 It's a shame that they didn't find these documents when they raided Trump's house. You know that is what they were looking for. I'm sure they are also miffed that they didn't manage to kill him.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 22, 2025 01:37 PM (Vfq+S)

101 David Collier
@mishtal
·
Follow
Far more Druze were slaughtered this week than even Hamas (inflated nonsense numbers) are claiming were killed in Gaza.

Number of headlines on @bbcnews about the slaughter of the Druze = ZERO

Number of Hamas propaganda headlines about Gaza = 42,655

We see you.
2:18 PM · Jul 21, 2025
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More religious-fascist massacres in Syria, but no one cares.

Why?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 22, 2025 01:38 PM (JvZF+)

102 "Point is generally that people misuse the T-word often. Does that require Congressional Declaration of War? I leave that to Whig."

idk either, BUT when Gorsuch was interviewed (by Graham?) the point was made that we are "on a war footing" against terrorism. I'd guess that could make flying pallets of cash to Iran a treasonous act.

And now that cartel gangs are labeled terrorists, aiding them (by blocking ICE) could also be treason.

But sedition or treason, just so some charges are brought. Despite the "nothing will happen" meme, this does seem to be the greatest presentation of facts I can remember (real facts, not the Trump/Russia or Nixon type crap).

Posted by: illiniwek at July 22, 2025 01:38 PM (vbXSk)

103 100 It's a shame that they didn't find these documents when they raided Trump's house. You know that is what they were looking for. I'm sure they are also miffed that they didn't manage to kill him.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 22, 2025 01:37 PM (Vfq+S)

This

Posted by: It's me donna at July 22, 2025 01:38 PM (VE6XX)

104 As I mentioned in the previous thread; the definitions of "treason" and "sedition" are going to evolve over the next couple months. IMO treason will not fly. Sedition might.

But none of the potential defendants will be found guilty of either.

The best that can be hoped for is reputational destruction. Oh, they'll be on the CNN, MSNBC and networks before, during and after to claim they were concerned for "democracy" or some such shit. But their pull in politics will be gone, if not severely diminished.

For a lot of them, I doubt their egos can accept that.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 22, 2025 01:38 PM (Q4IgG)

105 Oh! Good question, did they get nailed with treason or something else?
Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2025 01:36 PM (wYC45)

Strictly speaking, they did not get nailed. They got fried.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 22, 2025 01:38 PM (cEEir)

106 Multiple choice quiz:

Hillary!'s scent is:

a) Mothballs
b) Desperation
c) Pee
d) Scotch
e) Poop
f) All The Above
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamp

I'm confident she stinks.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at July 22, 2025 01:38 PM (W0bR8)

107 But the aliens aren't from another planet, no they are extra-dimensional ones.

And their dimension is really, really hot and smells like sulfur.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 22, 2025 01:36 PM (t0Rmr)

I'm open to the "Aliens are here" thing, but not until we have something resembling evidence.

A bunch of grifters who go on podcasts and say they saw things isn't evidence.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2025 01:38 PM (wYC45)

108 It’s all gay and retarded.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 22, 2025 01:38 PM (Vvm2m)

109 Tapper apparently blows off watching his own show

He's no different than anyone else.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 22, 2025 01:32 PM (k3Vs9)
So, twenty dollars, right?
Posted by: Eromero

*snort

Posted by: rickb223 at July 22, 2025 01:39 PM (k3Vs9)

110 Let him die alone, unwanted, and forgotten.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 22, 2025 01:28 PM (yxVqi)

That will be my fate, and the fate of a great swathe of the common man. And yet we did nothing to deserve such ignominious end.

Posted by: A rigged game with bitter outcome at July 22, 2025 01:39 PM (TbWk/)

111 >>>Zombie Ian Fleming

just wait until we make Bond a black lesbian

Posted by: Amazon at July 22, 2025 01:39 PM (jGJov)

112 Hillary!'s scent is:

A. Huma

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 22, 2025 01:39 PM (/U5Yz)

113 Julius & Ethel Rosenberg?
Posted by: rickb223 at July 22, 2025 01:33 PM (k3Vs9)

Espionage. Mildred Gillars (Axis Sally) was convicted of treason in 1949 and paroled in 1961.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

10-4!

Posted by: rickb223 at July 22, 2025 01:40 PM (k3Vs9)

114
Those newly released docs show Russian intel noting that Obama was wary of Comey as being "Republican-leaning." I'm still trying to figure out the motives of the pine-scented Druid.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 22, 2025 01:40 PM (HL/Ld)

115 104 As I mentioned in the previous thread; the definitions of "treason" and "sedition" are going to evolve over the next couple months. IMO treason will not fly. Sedition might.

But none of the potential defendants will be found guilty of either.

The best that can be hoped for is reputational destruction. Oh, they'll be on the CNN, MSNBC and networks before, during and after to claim they were concerned for "democracy" or some such shit. But their pull in politics will be gone, if not severely diminished.

For a lot of them, I doubt their egos can accept that.
Posted by: Martini Farmer
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Actually, what this means is full employment by lawyers. Essentially if Obama, etc. can be shown to have acted illegally, they are liable for civil judgment as well as criminal. Plus, the usual is process crimes of obstruction of justice, lying under oath, and so on.

Posted by: whig at July 22, 2025 01:40 PM (ctrM5)

116 Iva Toguri D'Aquino, who is frequently identified by the name "Tokyo Rose", convicted 1949. Subsequently pardoned by President Gerald Ford.
Mildred Gillars, also known as "Axis Sally", convicted of treason on March 8, 1949; served 12 years of a 10- to 30-year prison sentence.
Herbert John Burgman, convicted in 1949 of treason during WWII for spreading Nazi propaganda; sentenced to 6–20 years in prison.
Tomoya Kawakita, sentenced to death for treason in 1952, but eventually released by President John F. Kennedy to be deported to Japan.

Posted by: SMOD at July 22, 2025 01:40 PM (RHGPo)

117 114
Those newly released docs show Russian intel noting that Obama was wary of Comey as being "Republican-leaning." I'm still trying to figure out the motives of the pine-scented Druid.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 22, 2025 01:40 PM (HL/Ld)

======

His job. And the power of the state.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 22, 2025 01:40 PM (GBKbO)

118 So who was reading all the message traffic coming into the Hillary basement server?
She was drunk, getting drunk, or bedded down with something 24/7.

Posted by: torabora at July 22, 2025 01:40 PM (G0jjl)

119 Why, it's almost insubordination I tell you. But they did not really work for him so it doesn't, and it was 'almost'.

Posted by: Operator Error at July 22, 2025 01:40 PM (b8aHw)

120 ...on Dec. 16, 2016, Obama stated he was "concerned about ... potential hacking that could hamper vote counting and affect the actual election process itself. And so in early September, when I saw President Putin in China, I felt that the most effective way to ensure that, that didn't happen was to talk to him directly. And tell him to cut it out."
====

Sure, Jan. And then you bitch-slapped him.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 22, 2025 01:40 PM (JvZF+)

121 Julius & Ethel Rosenberg?
Posted by: rickb223 at July 22, 2025 01:33 PM (k3Vs9)

Espionage. Mildred Gillars (Axis Sally) was convicted of treason in 1949 and paroled in 1961.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 22, 2025 01:37 PM (HZi96)

Which, on its surface would appear to mean the gov thought espionage was a more serious crime than treason.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2025 01:40 PM (wYC45)

122
TRUMP SAID PU$$Y!!!

Posted by: media at July 22, 2025 01:40 PM (IifOV)

123 It's a shame that they didn't find these documents when they raided Trump's house. You know that is what they were looking for. I'm sure they are also miffed that they didn't manage to kill him.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 22, 2025 01:37 PM

To be fair, Melania's underwear were a nice bonus.

Posted by: Your F.B.I. at July 22, 2025 01:40 PM (0sNs1)

124 I don't think any of this is "Treason", but it is certainly a conspiracy to defraud and a felony under 18 U.S.C. § 1001, which prohibits making false statements or concealing information from federal agencies. This law covers a wide range of situations, including lying during investigations, submitting false documents, and making misrepresentations to government officials.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 22, 2025 01:40 PM (CTj58)

125
There's good reason to think Tokyo Rose was railroaded. A lot of the testimony against her was perjury.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 22, 2025 01:41 PM (HZi96)

126 Her home-brew network was completely against Federal rules and undoubtedly security-compromised to the degree that is logical to assume that EVERY SINGLE email she drafted, sent, and received was read by governmentS (plural) all over the globe. She was SECRETARY OF STATE at the time, so her willful disobedience almost certainly outted US assets, plans, and strategies.
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I think I read a report that said Obama's email was also hacked.

Think of that.

Covering up that the President of the United States official email account was hacked.

33k emails deleted.
It was all just "yoga routines and wedding plans."

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 22, 2025 01:41 PM (yxVqi)

127 57 Funny thread. Conspiracy theories you totally believe.

The Center of the Earth is filled with Oil instead of magma and that's why we keep finding new patches of oil fields

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 22, 2025 01:41 PM (FCrpy)

128 Now I'm wondering who the last person to be convicted of Treason was.

According to the AI search summary which I cannot be bothered to verify...

The last person to be convicted of treason in the United States was Tomoya Kawakita in 1952.

More recently, in the U.S., Adam Gadahn, also known as Azzam the American, was indicted for treason in 2006 for providing aid and comfort to al-Qaeda. However, he was killed in a U.S. drone strike before he could be brought to trial.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 22, 2025 01:41 PM (ExV1e)

129 As I mentioned in the previous thread; the definitions of "treason" and "sedition" are going to evolve over the next couple months. IMO treason will not fly. Sedition might.

But none of the potential defendants will be found guilty of either.

The best that can be hoped for is reputational destruction. Oh, they'll be on the CNN, MSNBC and networks before, during and after to claim they were concerned for "democracy" or some such shit. But their pull in politics will be gone, if not severely diminished.

For a lot of them, I doubt their egos can accept that.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 22, 2025 01:38 PM (Q4IgG)

Get it in the historical record that the choom gang cocksucker and friends are corrupt, anti-American pieces of garbage.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 22, 2025 01:41 PM (i24o9)

130 Strictly speaking, they did not get nailed. They got fried.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 22, 2025 01:38 PM (cEEir)

Dammit, I hate being wrong. I shall now call you a troll, and advocate for your banning.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2025 01:41 PM (wYC45)

131 Brennan is super-honest, and I'm sure this is the only thing he has ever, ever, ever lied about.

*Scout sign*

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 22, 2025 01:42 PM (JvZF+)

132 "Brennan simply looks like a villian from a Bond movie or comic book. With his beady evil eyes and ugly, fat, bald head, stumpy penguin body."
**************
Brennan is a self proclaimed commie and a Muslim convert. HTF does he get to be in charge at CIA?

Posted by: Cosda at July 22, 2025 01:42 PM (LU9SB)

133 It's a shame that they didn't find these documents when they raided Trump's house. You know that is what they were looking for. I'm sure they are also miffed that they didn't manage to kill him.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 22, 2025 01:37 PM (Vfq+S)

They could've taken the former Officer Hankison approach and just blind-fired through the windows hoping for the best.

Posted by: BLAM BLAM BLAM at July 22, 2025 01:42 PM (TbWk/)

134 I think a lot of these career officials are just covering their behinds.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 22, 2025 01:43 PM (YAMwy)

135 Dammit, I hate being wrong. I shall now call you a troll, and advocate for your banning.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2025 01:41 PM (wYC45)

Oh, ok. Sounds good.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 22, 2025 01:43 PM (cEEir)

136 94 Brennan simply looks like a villian from a Bond movie or comic book. With his beady evil eyes and ugly, fat, bald head, stumpy penguin body.

-
Bootyjudge, on the other hand, looks like the Wicked Witch of the West.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at July 22, 2025 01:37 PM (iQ1wk)

And yet somehow Brennan manages to sound like even more of a homo than Boots.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 22, 2025 01:43 PM (RlmPm)

137
However, he was killed in a U.S. drone strike before he could be brought to trial.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 22, 2025 01:41 PM (ExV1e)

_______

Got the order wrong, dammit. Trial first, then drone strike.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 22, 2025 01:43 PM (HZi96)

138 I'm open to the "Aliens are here" thing, but not until we have something resembling evidence.

No, I've got a different theory for that one.

The aliens people have seen in government labs? The are top secret medical experiments, generally (hopefully?) on corpses.

For example, a few years after Roswell there was a minor flap where some government scientists were caught using corpses to study the effects of radiation on human bodies and supposedly that got them to stop the program.

So...its quite possible they were running the program at the time of Roswell and if you caught a glimpse of one of these decaying bodies what might it look like?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 22, 2025 01:43 PM (t0Rmr)

139 Totally unrelated... wasn't CENTOCM's Intel conclusions being directed by the White House.

Posted by: Operator Error at July 22, 2025 01:43 PM (b8aHw)

140 "Brennan would later claim he had seen Secret Intelligence that no one else saw"

From the Witches ... (and not just Hillary)

Posted by: illiniwek at July 22, 2025 01:43 PM (vbXSk)

141 >>> 120 ...on Dec. 16, 2016, Obama stated he was "concerned about ... potential hacking that could hamper vote counting and affect the actual election process itself. And so in early September, when I saw President Putin in China, I felt that the most effective way to ensure that, that didn't happen was to talk to him directly. And tell him to cut it out."
====

Sure, Jan. And then you bitch-slapped him.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 22, 2025 01:40 PM (JvZF+)

More like the fight scene at the end of Blazing Saddles where that one dancer is beating on the cowboy's chest with his puny little fists, but no hug at the end.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 22, 2025 01:44 PM (ULPxl)

142 Funny thread. Conspiracy theories you totally believe.

The Center of the Earth is filled with Oil instead of magma and that's why we keep finding new patches of oil fields
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 22, 2025 01:41 PM

Helen Keller was an op.

The multiverse is real.

CERN created a new timeline.

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 22, 2025 01:44 PM (MGB5H)

143 Rush, 1974, when they still sounded like everybody else:
youtube.com/watch?v=Drouhbjp_9c

Posted by: For gp, The Action IS The Juice at July 22, 2025 01:44 PM (kRXt7)

144 Strictly speaking, they did not get nailed. They got fried.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 22, 2025 01:38 PM (cEEir)

Dammit, I hate being wrong. I shall now call you a troll, and advocate for your banning.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2025 01:41 PM (wYC45)

As is tradition.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 22, 2025 01:44 PM (i24o9)

145 Will we get to hear Obama scream like the little ponce he is? Because it's not real until we get that.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 22, 2025 01:44 PM (tT6L1)

146
The Rosenbergs were wrongly convicted.

Posted by: Sen. Feinsteins Chinese Limo Driver at July 22, 2025 01:44 PM (IifOV)

147 Hey, Paco, er, uh...Junius! I thought it was legs day. Apparently it is vocabulary day for me. Yep, that one still works.

Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 22, 2025 01:45 PM (vd6bO)

148 Julius and Ethel Rosenberg:

Convicted of espionage in 1951, they were executed by the federal government of the United States in 1953 using New York's state execution chamber in Sing Sing in Ossining,

Proving the fedgov can move quickly when it wants to.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 22, 2025 01:45 PM (ndc+z)

149 I still wonder how anybody could believe Putin preferred Trump when Hillary's platform could have been written in the Kremlin.

Posted by: tankdemon at July 22, 2025 01:45 PM (VSht7)

150
Will we get to hear Obama scream like the little ponce he is? Because it's not real until we get that.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 22, 2025 01:44 PM (tT6L1)

_________

The AoSHQ Style Guide says, "prissy little ponce."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 22, 2025 01:45 PM (HZi96)

151 Helen Keller was an op.

I've seen a few people make this argument for real...not that she wasn't disabled but that her care taker made up what she wanted to say to the world.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 22, 2025 01:45 PM (t0Rmr)

152 Closest case would be Haupt v. US
"Haupt v. United States, the Supreme Court sustained a treason conviction for the first time in its history. Although the overt acts that supported the treason charge—including defendant’s harboring and sheltering of his son who was an enemy spy and saboteur, and assisting his son in purchasing an automobile and obtaining employment in a defense plant—were all acts that a father might naturally perform for a son, the Court held that this fact did not necessarily relieve such acts of the treasonable purpose of giving aid and comfort to the enemy....
Justice Jackson said: No matter whether young Haupt’s mission was benign or traitorous, known or unknown to the defendant, these acts were aid and comfort to him. These acts, Justice Jackson continued, were more than casually useful; they were aids in steps essential to his design for treason. Thus, f proof be added that the defendant knew of his son’s instruction, preparation and plans, the purpose to aid and comfort the enemy becomes clear. The Court further held that conversation and occurrences long prior to the indictment were admissible evidence. . ."

Posted by: whig at July 22, 2025 01:45 PM (ctrM5)

153 Nobody cares about the Druze massacre because the Jews aren't doing it.

Posted by: torabora at July 22, 2025 01:46 PM (G0jjl)

154 The last person to be convicted of treason in the United States was Tomoya Kawakita in 1952.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 22, 2025 01:41 PM (ExV1e)

Ah, a quick search shows he had dual citizenship (hmmm), and was eventually deported and prevented from returning to the U.S.

It's almost like it's a bad idea to have dual loyalties to another country or something.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2025 01:46 PM (rG5we)

155 Top Career Intelligence Officials Objected
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Uh-huh.

Posted by: ... at July 22, 2025 01:46 PM (9/ad+)

156
Andrew McCarthy at NRO insists this is a nothing burger because "there's nothing didn't know already."
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo

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Paul Sperry is taking him apart on X.

>>Nat'l Review's McCarthy fatuously claims, "No new light is shed on this [Russiagate] episode by Gabbard's email disclosures Friday." But he misses declass intel casting doubt Hillary's emails hacked by Russia: Agencies "lack sufficient technical details" to make a conclusion

...emails reveal a DNI whistleblower was pulled off ICA after reaching opposite conclusions, forced to accept unsupported finding Putin helped Trump

>>Andrew McCarthy makes fatal error: "Brennan's colleagues largely succeeded in having [dossier] excluded:a summary was included in an annex but not in ICA's analysis." In fact,it was used in main body to support a key finding

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 22, 2025 01:46 PM (HL/Ld)

157 Helen Keller was an op.

I've seen a few people make this argument for real...not that she wasn't disabled but that her care taker made up what she wanted to say to the world.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 22, 2025 01:45 PM (t0Rmr)

Yes.

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 22, 2025 01:46 PM (MGB5H)

158 >> Those newly released docs show Russian intel noting that Obama was wary of Comey as being "Republican-leaning." I'm still trying to figure out the motives of the pine-scented Druid.

Ass-covering? He signed fraudulent FISA warrants in the fall he likely knew would come to light unless they could establish the narrative first, then get an investigation going that Trump wouldn't/couldn't "interfere" with. I think at some point he was trying to do the Clinton investigation right, but then was probably told if he didn't back off he'd be shitcanned when she won.

Posted by: the dandy at July 22, 2025 01:46 PM (8l8nW)

159 Wait, they were gassed?

That has to be the least satisfying method of execution.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 22, 2025 01:46 PM (cEEir)

160 I believe The Miracle Worker herself was an avowed Marxist so take from that what you will.

Posted by: ... at July 22, 2025 01:47 PM (9/ad+)

161 Rush, 1974, when they still sounded like everybody else:
youtube.com/watch?v=Drouhbjp_9c

Posted by: For gp, The Action IS The Juice at July 22, 2025 01:44 PM (kRXt7)

That's gold.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 22, 2025 01:47 PM (i24o9)

162 >>> 151 Helen Keller was an op.
==

I've seen a few people make this argument for real...not that she wasn't disabled but that her care taker made up what she wanted to say to the world.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 22, 2025 01:45 PM (t0Rmr)

THAT'S WHAT I SAID!!!

Posted by: Zombie Stephen Hawking at July 22, 2025 01:47 PM (ULPxl)

163 Druze have had problems with Muslims for a long time. Every so often under the Ottoman government the local Muslims would decide they were heretics/infidels and try to exterminate them.

Generally this was not directed by the Ottomans themselves who had bigger fish to fry...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 22, 2025 01:48 PM (t0Rmr)

164 Comey was in such a mad rush to exonerate Hillary Clinton for stealing gigabytes of top secret US documents that he didn't even bother to examine thumbdrives containing the documents.

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And I've gotten away with it, too, if it weren't for that meddling Wiener!

Posted by: Pine Scented Druid Philosopher at July 22, 2025 01:48 PM (4Iqzz)

165 If justice is administered in this situation, it would be a sign that God has not abandoned us.

Posted by: Emmie at July 22, 2025 01:48 PM (FMtrg)

166 Remember:
The left's response to Hillary's email scandal was to use non-latin script letters that were similar to the proper letter and/or intentional misspellings of key words.

To prevent keyword search and detection by anyone with oversight.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 22, 2025 01:48 PM (yxVqi)

167 Helen Keller was an op.

I've seen a few people make this argument for real...not that she wasn't disabled but that her care taker made up what she wanted to say to the world.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 22, 2025 01:45 PM (t0Rmr)

Yes.
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 22, 2025 01:46 PM (MGB5H)

Hellen Keller exaggerated her condition, Anne Sullivan groomed her and banged her for years.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 22, 2025 01:48 PM (xcxpd)

168 Oh and in the core of the planet is a secret world where dinosaurs and King Kong live.

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 22, 2025 01:48 PM (MGB5H)

169 142 Funny thread. Conspiracy theories you totally believe.

The Center of the Earth is filled with Oil instead of magma and that's why we keep finding new patches of oil fields
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 22, 2025 01:41 PM

Helen Keller was an op.

The multiverse is real.

CERN created a new timeline.

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 22, 2025 01:44 PM (MGB5H)

My phone can read my thoughts.

Michael Jordan's move to baseball was related to his gambling issues.

Most politicians are not actual human beings, which is why they have trouble doing normal things like grilling burgers.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 22, 2025 01:48 PM (KbCG3)

170 Helen Keller was an op.

I've seen a few people make this argument for real...not that she wasn't disabled but that her care taker made up what she wanted to say to the world.
------------

Stevie Wonder isn't blind (so the story goes). One celebrity (can't remember who) asserts that something bad started to go down in a hotel suite and that they saw Stevie JET around furniture, tables, people, etc in his haste to exit the room.

Posted by: Crusader at July 22, 2025 01:48 PM (TN0g+)

171 I believe it. I know the entire operation had to have the sanction of POTUS. The bad actors have been caught lying and manipulating intelligence for political purposes. The last remaining question, and it's a big one, is related to forthcoming indictments and prosecutions. Are we going to see indictments, are we going to see them soon, and will anyone actually be convicted?

Posted by: Rando Calrissian at July 22, 2025 01:48 PM (p25vs)

172 It occurs to me that there are probably a number of bit players (Pelosi and Schiff come to mind, as to a number of Obama era aids) that while on the edges of all this, are also at risk. Might they feel some pressure to testify?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 22, 2025 01:49 PM (Q4IgG)

173 Andrew McCarthy at NRO insists this is a nothing burger because "there's nothing didn't know already."
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo
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He is a uniparty hack at this point and useless for any sound legal commentary. He is past his selling point except maybe for the big corporate donors that still keep NR afloat.

Commentary for a paycheck is common enough in legal hacks when they cannot cut it as a lawyer anymore. Also see Nancy Grace and David French as examples.

Posted by: whig at July 22, 2025 01:49 PM (ctrM5)

174 Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2025 01:41 PM (wYC45)

Always better to just confront these things directly. The midground is fun but ultimately gets no result and you don't get to say what you really want to say and probably get banned anyway.

Posted by: ... at July 22, 2025 01:49 PM (9/ad+)

175 Helen Keller was an op.
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I've seen a few people make this argument for real...not that she wasn't disabled but that her care taker made up what she wanted to say to the world.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 22, 2025 01:45 PM (t0Rmr)

There was a kid, who had one of those cerebral palsy or some such disease, and someone came along with a fancy, sophisticated "Speak n' Spell" type device, that supposedly captured all his wisdom.

He then flourished in school, graduated high school with honors, and there were all sorts of celebrations in his town and beyond.

Until they found out the device was just a fraud. He really did have the brains of a toddler.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2025 01:49 PM (rG5we)

176 "Brennan is a self proclaimed commie and a Muslim convert. HTF does he get to be in charge at CIA?"

Globalists seem to find Muslims very useful for destroying Western Values. Muslim Brotherhood infiltrated deep into DC, plus all the Islamic unvetted imports have set up (no go zone?) camps around the USA, while they are overrunning Europe.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 22, 2025 01:49 PM (vbXSk)

177 Hillary's scent is decidedly NOT Planters Peanuts.

To wit: https://youtu.be/6KUMf6siamE

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 22, 2025 01:49 PM (wVcYX)

178 ACKshually, at the end of No Time To Die, a black woman was named the new 007, following Bond's death

Posted by: Don Black at July 22, 2025 01:50 PM (AOsQT)

179 The intelligence community didn’t believe Russia hacked, the election, and all of that, great.

But do they still maintain that ‘Guccifer’ as a front for the Russian hacking group ‘Fancy Bear’ were responsible for hacking the DNC server and John Podesta’s email?

Or are we going to find out that Seth Rich actually did just download a bunch of files from the DNC server to a thumb drive and handed that to Wikileaks?

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 22, 2025 01:50 PM (6ydKt)

180 I'm still curious what Trump said to Obama at Jimmy Carter's funeral. The lipreaders said that Trump said this to Obama:

"We need to talk. Not here. Somewhere private."

That resulting conversation must have been interesting. It might have been something like. "I know what you did. And, I'm going to bring it all out."

You might recall that Obama was very, very quiet for the next few months. He removed himself. But, as soon as he started making the public rounds again...out pops Tulsi Gabbard with the accusations. And, Trump immediately highlighting them on Truth Social.

I don't think this one gets swept under the rug. I think it gets very, very, very nasty.

Posted by: Orson at July 22, 2025 01:50 PM (dIske)

181 Wait, they were gassed?

That has to be the least satisfying method of execution.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Taco Bell is a bitch.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 22, 2025 01:50 PM (ndc+z)

182 My phone can read my thoughts.

Michael Jordan's move to baseball was related to his gambling issues.

Most politicians are not actual human beings, which is why they have trouble doing normal things like grilling burgers.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 22, 2025 01:48 PM (KbCG3

Jordan's baseball move was most certainly a suspension

The league froze the knicks envelope in the Ewing draft.

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 22, 2025 01:50 PM (MGB5H)

183 My phone can read my thoughts.

Facebook (and likely many other apps) consume the ambient audio your phone hears and uses it to determine what ads to give you

Posted by: 18-1 at July 22, 2025 01:50 PM (t0Rmr)

184 In 2016 Trump beat the DNC cheat so they accused Russia of hacking vote totals. In 2020 with some fatigue from shallow Trump supporters the DNC still had to resort to obvious cheating to steal the election but everyone who voice that opinion was labeled a MAGA extremist, with the J6'ers viciously prosecuted.

It is not possible to hate the FNM, DNC, deep state cabal enough. But it is interesting that some members are letting this information out; probably trying to salvage their own careers or departments.

Posted by: PaleRider at July 22, 2025 01:51 PM (yMN/A)

185 When Rush (the band) started out, they wanted to be Led Zeppelin....like most people. It wasn't until their second album when they started to sound unique.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 22, 2025 01:51 PM (xcxpd)

186 I imagine Hillary smells of mothballs, old lady perfume, and stale urine

Posted by: Don Black at July 22, 2025 01:51 PM (AOsQT)

187 My phone can read my thoughts.

Michael Jordan's move to baseball was related to his gambling issues.

Most politicians are not actual human beings, which is why they have trouble doing normal things like grilling burgers.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 22, 2025 01:48 PM (KbCG3)

Those aren't even "theories", they're just facts about the universe that nobody would argue unless they're intentionally trying to be a jerk.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 22, 2025 01:51 PM (RlmPm)

188 153 Nobody cares about the Druze massacre because the Jews aren't doing it.
Posted by: torabora
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The world is full of massacres and Christians are one of the primary victims nowadays at the hands of Muslims.

Posted by: whig at July 22, 2025 01:51 PM (ctrM5)

189 Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2025 01:41 PM (wYC45)

Always better to just confront these things directly. The midground is fun but ultimately gets no result and you don't get to say what you really want to say and probably get banned anyway.
Posted by: ... at July 22, 2025 01:49 PM (9/ad+)

Right. I learned if you call someone a glowie, even as a joke, you can get in... trouble.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2025 01:51 PM (rG5we)

190 178 ACKshually, at the end of No Time To Die, a black woman was named the new 007, following Bond's death
Posted by: Don Black at July 22, 2025 01:50 PM (AOsQT)

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It was the end of the first act.

She gave the 007 moniker back to Bond for the last act. Then Bond dies.

There's no talk of who takes the 007 label afterwards.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 22, 2025 01:51 PM (GBKbO)

191 Damn golf made me miss the Kinkade art thread.

Had a lot to say and now no one to say it to.

Posted by: polynikes at July 22, 2025 01:52 PM (VofaG)

192 Facebook (and likely many other apps) consume the ambient audio your phone hears and uses it to determine what ads to give you
Posted by: 18-1
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Thus, speak wisely and truely as thou speech may determine which ads thou might see.

Posted by: whig at July 22, 2025 01:52 PM (ctrM5)

193 My phone can read my thoughts.

Facebook (and likely many other apps) consume the ambient audio your phone hears and uses it to determine what ads to give you
Posted by: 18-1

So THAT'S why my phone gives me Taco Bell ads. It hears me passing gas.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 22, 2025 01:52 PM (ndc+z)

194 It was obvious from the start that Russia would have preferred Hillary. They already had her direct deposit information.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 22, 2025 01:52 PM (FVP5O)

195 The feminine George Floyd for 2025. Well, I don't think she was a drugged up lout ( although not exactly an AA version of Rebecca of SunnyBrook Farms) and she was younger, but she died in police custody. The police say she committed suicide while in police custody. Her family wants answers . I don't blame them. Unfortunately racist rabble rouser Ben Crump will be dealing with this case:

https://tinyurl.com/3h6j99n4

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 22, 2025 01:52 PM (2GCMq)

196 J'Accuse!

Posted by: Emil Zola at July 22, 2025 01:53 PM (w9Wax)

197 I've seen a few people make this argument for real...not that she wasn't disabled but that her care taker made up what she wanted to say to the world.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 22, 2025 01:45 PM (t0Rmr)

Hellen Keller books were Marxist crap about how workers were exploited etc etc oh and her Teacher was a Unionist Workers Party member and loved Marx

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 22, 2025 01:53 PM (FCrpy)

198 So THAT'S why my phone gives me Taco Bell ads. It hears me passing gas.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 22, 2025 01:52 PM (ndc+z)
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You'd think you'd get a lot of ads for Beano.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 22, 2025 01:53 PM (tT6L1)

199 Right. I learned if you call someone a glowie, even as a joke, you can get in... trouble.
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I believe that "glowie" was just the final straw--all the anti-semitic crap you had posted that week had put your nic in the spotlight.

Posted by: Crusader at July 22, 2025 01:53 PM (TN0g+)

200 Thus, if proof be added that the defendant knew of his son’s instruction, preparation and plans, the purpose to aid and comfort the enemy becomes clear. The Court further held that conversation and occurrences long prior to the indictment were admissible evidence. . ."

Posted by: whig at July 22, 2025 01:45 PM (ctrM5)

The facts were pretty damning that the father knew of the son's activities to benefit the enemies of the U.S. in a declared war.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 22, 2025 01:53 PM (i24o9)

201
153 Nobody cares about the Druze massacre because the Jews aren't doing it.
Posted by: torabora at July 22, 2025 01:46 PM (G0jjl)

I sadly agree.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 22, 2025 01:54 PM (77W69)

202 I believe it. I know the entire operation had to have the sanction of POTUS. The bad actors have been caught lying and manipulating intelligence for political purposes. The last remaining question, and it's a big one, is related to forthcoming indictments and prosecutions. Are we going to see indictments, are we going to see them soon, and will anyone actually be convicted?
Posted by: Rando Calrissian

Maybe it will be presented as a simple choice - Either confess and name names and then the DOJ will cut you a deal for a minimum sentence or face a brutal, public ass whipping that will take you and your family down so hard, you will be looking for a foreign country to move to and live in obscurity after your long prison sentence is over should you survive.

Posted by: Cheri at July 22, 2025 01:54 PM (oiNtH)

203 Ben Crump was the lawyer for the Floyd Family. He's made quite a good living at his work.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 22, 2025 01:54 PM (2GCMq)

204 Stevie Wonder isn't blind (so the story goes). One celebrity (can't remember who) asserts that something bad started to go down in a hotel suite and that they saw Stevie JET around furniture, tables, people, etc in his haste to exit the room.
Posted by: Crusader at July 22, 2025 01:48 PM (TN0g+)

I'd need more proof than that. I'd light a bag of shit on fire, say "Here, catch this," and toss it to him.

If he steps aside, I'll believe it.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2025 01:54 PM (rG5we)

205 Damn golf made me miss the Kinkade art thread.

Had a lot to say and now no one to say it to.

Posted by: polynikes at July 22, 2025 01:52 PM (VofaG)

Don't let that stop you.
I talk about guns and boobs and movies in most threads.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 22, 2025 01:54 PM (xcxpd)

206
I notice, in Mollie's article, Brennan used the weasel word "aspired."

Well, I aspire to be a billionaire. Doesn't mean I succeeded. In fact, it's quite obvious I didn't.
Posted by: blake

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Brennan has enough weasel words lined up to get out of this whole thing. The intel assessment about Hunter Biden's laptop was that it merely "had the classic earmarks" and it "looked suspicious." So, you know, woops! Woopsie! Guess I got it wrong this time. Let's move on.

"Aspire, attempt, appearances," etc. will get him out of this. Prediction.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 22, 2025 01:55 PM (HL/Ld)

207 >>>It was obvious from the start that Russia would have preferred Hillary.

which party makes oil prices go up?

Posted by: brak at July 22, 2025 01:55 PM (jGJov)

208 No mention of of Macedonian content farmers?

Posted by: kallisto at July 22, 2025 01:55 PM (wIvDP)

209 Maybe it will be presented as a simple choice - Either confess and name names and then the DOJ will cut you a deal for a minimum sentence or face a brutal, public ass whipping that will take you and your family down so hard, you will be looking for a foreign country to move to and live in obscurity after your long prison sentence is over should you survive.

Posted by: Cheri at July 22, 2025 01:54 PM (oiNtH)

With no free and fair media to play along, I'd take my chances if I were them.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 22, 2025 01:55 PM (KbCG3)

210 Helen Keller really didn't know sign language and it was all just her interpreter making shit up? Well, all I can say to that is "Koko kitty flower Koko kitty kitty!"

Posted by: Koko the Gorilla at July 22, 2025 01:55 PM (7CamO)

211 >>> 205 Damn golf made me miss the Kinkade art thread.

Had a lot to say and now no one to say it to.

Posted by: polynikes at July 22, 2025 01:52 PM (VofaG)

Don't let that stop you.
I talk about guns and boobs and movies in most threads.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 22, 2025 01:54 PM (xcxpd)

Like that makes you special or something!!!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 22, 2025 01:55 PM (ULPxl)

212 Conspiracy, Lies, Treason...
By Brenen...

Posted by: By Menen at July 22, 2025 01:55 PM (ynpvh)

213 BREAKING: The judge handling the case requested by AG Bondi to unseal the Epstein grand jury files has issued a response. The court has stated that DOJ must provide specific details, including which transcripts it wants unsealed, and that input from victims is also required.

Posted by: SMOD at July 22, 2025 01:55 PM (RHGPo)

214 The family previously told News 12 that the teenager was on her way home from a Fourth of July cookout at Crotona Park, when she got into a fight with her girlfriend and was arrested for disorderly conduct.

So one of the dumbest parts of our modern world is a certain segment of the populace claims the police are all racist kill machines and yet when they have a problem like an abusive lesbian girlfriend still call the police.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 22, 2025 01:55 PM (t0Rmr)

215
Damn golf made me miss the Kinkade art thread.

Had a lot to say and now no one to say it to.

Posted by: polynikes

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Spill!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 22, 2025 01:56 PM (HL/Ld)

216 "Had a lot to say and now no one to say it to."

Get a marmot. Damn fine listeners, they are.

Posted by: For gp, The Action IS The Juice at July 22, 2025 01:56 PM (kRXt7)

217 Hellen Keller books were Marxist crap about how workers were exploited etc etc oh and her Teacher was a Unionist Workers Party member and loved Marx
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 22, 2025 01:53 PM (FCrpy)

Q: How do you punish Helen Keller?

A: Make her read Ayn Rand

Posted by: polynikes at July 22, 2025 01:56 PM (VofaG)

218 The facts were pretty damning that the father knew of the son's activities to benefit the enemies of the U.S. in a declared war.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder
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Interesting case. Guy got life in prison for it.

Posted by: whig at July 22, 2025 01:56 PM (ctrM5)

219 I'd need more proof than that. I'd light a bag of shit on fire, say "Here, catch this," and toss it to him.

If he steps aside, I'll believe it.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2025 01:54 PM (rG5we)

"So what happened?"

"He..... caught it."

"Oh. So?"

"Fuck knows, man. Maybe he's actually hard of smelling instead?"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 22, 2025 01:56 PM (RlmPm)

220 I believe that "glowie" was just the final straw--all the anti-semitic crap you had posted that week had put your nic in the spotlight.
Posted by: Crusader at July 22, 2025 01:53 PM (TN0g+)

Bullshit. Idiots who don't know the difference between questioning what Israel is doing and anti-Semitism are the problem, not me.

There are too many people like that around here.

It should be possible to oppose what Israel is doing without being so labeled.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2025 01:56 PM (rG5we)

221 Well, all I can say to that is "Koko kitty flower Koko kitty kitty!"
Posted by: Koko the Gorilla at July 22, 2025 01:55 PM (7CamO)
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Yeah, I'm suspicious that any animal understands "sign language" beyond any overt motion that is habitually tied to food.

Posted by: Crusader at July 22, 2025 01:56 PM (TN0g+)

222 I remember watching Comey dump his load on tv in 2016. After Billy Boy Clinton was seen with "Legs" Lynch at an airport. I can't remember if this was his $2k haircut. But it was a BFD.

Where they discussed grandchildren and golf. RIGHT

Anyway, Comey prisses out, with the nation watching, hoping, and praying that he'd tell the truth about Hag Hil's lying, cheating, shredding ways. He then delivered a turd in the DC punchbowl that no prosecutor would pursue her sorry, fat ass. I proceeded to cuss a lot and then went on with life.

The good, fantastical news was she lost anyway!!!

In spite of evil Brennan, Russiagate, PeePee Gate,the MSM, and Comey. SHE LOST! HAHAHAHAHAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 22, 2025 01:56 PM (6PCLE)

223 Stevie Wonder has congenitally undeveloped eyes, hence the need for the wrap-around sunglasses.

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at July 22, 2025 01:57 PM (w9Wax)

224 Durham's investigation was a slow walk whistling past the graveyard run out the clock waste of time. There's a thread at Twitchy setting forth it's uselessness

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 22, 2025 01:57 PM (Cdp18)

225 Damn golf made me miss the Kinkade art thread.

Had a lot to say and now no one to say it to.

Posted by: polynikes at July 22, 2025 01:52 PM (VofaG)

Don't let that stop you.
I talk about guns and boobs and movies in most threads.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 22, 2025 01:54 PM (xcxpd)

Like that makes you special or something!!!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 22, 2025 01:55 PM (ULPxl)

I WISH I was special. But I'm a creep. I'm a weirdo...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 22, 2025 01:57 PM (xcxpd)

226 Wherefore laying aside all malice, and all guile, and hypocrisies, and envies, and all evil speakings, As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby: If so be ye have tasted that the Lord is gracious.

Posted by: Lord Comey at July 22, 2025 01:57 PM (/gTjv)

227 >BREAKING: The judge handling the case requested by AG Bondi to unseal the Epstein grand jury files has issued a response.
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so they are going to slow roll any release

Posted by: Don Black at July 22, 2025 01:57 PM (AOsQT)

228 213 BREAKING: The judge handling the case requested by AG Bondi to unseal the Epstein grand jury files has issued a response. The court has stated that DOJ must provide specific details, including which transcripts it wants unsealed, and that input from victims is also required.
Posted by: SMOD
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And I'd imagine that the DoJ will do so.

Posted by: whig at July 22, 2025 01:57 PM (ctrM5)

229 The intelligence community didn’t believe Russia hacked, the election, and all of that, great.

But do they still maintain that ‘Guccifer’ as a front for the Russian hacking group ‘Fancy Bear’ were responsible for hacking the DNC server and John Podesta’s email?

Or are we going to find out that Seth Rich actually did just download a bunch of files from the DNC server to a thumb drive and handed that to Wikileaks?

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 22, 2025 01:50 PM (6ydKt)

That's one of the big ones I want to know. The self-righteous lefties were oh so sure of themselves that Crowdstrike delivered a straight up, no BS, objective work product, paid for by the DNC who also paid for the made up the pee pee Dossier.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 22, 2025 01:57 PM (i24o9)

230 Why did Helen Keller play the piano with one hand?

Because she sings with the other.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 22, 2025 01:57 PM (tT6L1)

231 213 BREAKING: The judge handling the case requested by AG Bondi to unseal the Epstein grand jury files has issued a response. The court has stated that DOJ must provide specific details, including which transcripts it wants unsealed, and that input from victims is also required.

Posted by: SMOD at July 22, 2025 01:55 PM (RHGPo)

Even the dead ones?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 22, 2025 01:57 PM (ynpvh)

232 Whatever transpires with Obama et. al. it must be televised. Every second of it. Live.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 22, 2025 01:58 PM (Q4IgG)

233 Crowdstrike ended up getting a massive cash infusion from Google shortly thereafter as I recall.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 22, 2025 01:58 PM (i24o9)

234 230 Why did Helen Keller play the piano with one hand?

Because she sings with the other.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 22, 2025 01:57 PM (tT6L1)

She certainly wasn't playing by ear...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 22, 2025 01:58 PM (ynpvh)

235 207 >>>It was obvious from the start that Russia would have preferred Hillary.

which party makes oil prices go up?
Posted by: brak at July 22, 2025 01:55 PM (jGJov)

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"That doesn't matter. Putin has kompromat on Trump when he drank hooker pee on Obama's bed!"
-DU, 99.9999993% probability

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 22, 2025 01:58 PM (GBKbO)

236 Bullshit. Idiots who don't know the difference between questioning what Israel is doing and anti-Semitism are the problem, not me.

There are too many people like that around here.

It should be possible to oppose what Israel is doing without being so labeled.
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You threw in with *Candace*. Its impossible to do that without stepping knee-deep into anti-semitism.

Posted by: Crusader at July 22, 2025 01:58 PM (TN0g+)

237 Thoughts have I

Posted by: Koko at July 22, 2025 01:58 PM (wVcYX)

238 Q: How do you punish Helen Keller?

A: Make her read Ayn Rand
Posted by: polynikes at July 22, 2025 01:56 PM (VofaG)

Q: Why couldn't Helen Keller drive?

A: Because she's a woman.

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 22, 2025 01:58 PM (MGB5H)

239 But I'm a creep. I'm a weirdo...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 22, 2025 01:57 PM (xcxpd)
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Keep going, I think you're on to something!

Posted by: Beck at July 22, 2025 01:58 PM (tT6L1)

240 Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2025 01:54 PM (rG5we)

Shaquille O'Neal tells a story about being in an elevator and Stevie Wonder entering by himself. Not unusual. But, then Stevie said, "Hi, Shaq."

Shaq had said nothing to that point. And, Shaq doesn't think Stevie is blind. It was a hilarious interview.

Posted by: Orson at July 22, 2025 01:58 PM (dIske)

241 Why did Helen Keller play the piano with one hand?

Because she sings with the other.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 22, 2025 01:57 PM (tT6L1)

She certainly wasn't playing by ear...
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How did Helen Keller burn her ear?

By answering the waffle iron.

Posted by: Crusader at July 22, 2025 01:58 PM (TN0g+)

242 "when he drank hooker pee"

Damn. That's hardcore. I heard he just gargled and spit it out.

Posted by: For gp, The Action IS The Juice at July 22, 2025 01:59 PM (kRXt7)

243 At some point Helen Keller stopped being a person and started being a brand.

I'm surprised she didn't have endorsement deals.

"Try the new GE toaster! It has a guard so you don't burn your fingers!"

Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 22, 2025 01:59 PM (Z+A8w)

244 Even the dead ones?

Real shame someone drove into Virginia Guffiere and then when that didn't quite kill her she up and committed suicide isn't it?

Posted by: The Deep State at July 22, 2025 01:59 PM (t0Rmr)

245 Let's not forget that Paul Ryan convinced some 50 House Republicans, many who were committee chairs, that the Russia Hoax was so dire and certain that they must resign "get in front of" the public backlash when it was revealed.

Assuring them that they needed to help eliminate Trump to save the Party.

All while knowing that in the secret committee hearings, more than a year prior, every witnesses swore under oath that there was no proof or evidence of collusion.

Gowdy continued to go on Fox News after hearing that testimony and "platform" the legitimacy of the collusion investigation.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 22, 2025 01:59 PM (yxVqi)

246 "So what happened?"

"He..... caught it."

"Oh. So?"

"Fuck knows, man. Maybe he's actually hard of smelling instead?"
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 22, 2025 01:56 PM (RlmPm)

If he eats it, we know he's got the blind equivalent of broke taste buds too.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2025 01:59 PM (rG5we)

247 Am I too late to say nothing will happen?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 22, 2025 01:59 PM (Vvm2m)

248 225 Damn golf made me miss the Kinkade art thread.

Had a lot to say and now no one to say it to.

Posted by: polynikes at July 22, 2025 01:52 PM (VofaG)

Don't let that stop you.
I talk about guns and boobs and movies in most threads.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 22, 2025 01:54 PM (xcxpd)

Like that makes you special or something!!!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 22, 2025 01:55 PM (ULPxl)

I WISH I was special. But I'm a creep. I'm a weirdo...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 22, 2025 01:57 PM (xcxpd)

https://youtu.be/XFkzRNyygfk

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 22, 2025 01:59 PM (ynpvh)

249 Mysterious 'planet killer', comet named 3I/ATLAS, hurtling towards us from distant part of the galaxy revealed

Posted by: SMOD at July 22, 2025 01:59 PM (RHGPo)

250 The Epstein stuff has become like Area 51 now. No matter what happens or is realeased, people will believe anything could be and probably is in there.

Posted by: brak at July 22, 2025 01:59 PM (jGJov)

251 Durham's investigation was a slow walk whistling past the graveyard run out the clock waste of time. There's a thread at Twitchy setting forth it's uselessness
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 22, 2025 01:57 PM (Cdp1

I've commented that's exactly what Trump would have done with the Epstein 'files' if they were trying to cover something up.

Posted by: polynikes at July 22, 2025 01:59 PM (VofaG)

252 In memory of Ciampino. T -13 minutes

GO! - SpaceX - Falcon 9 - TRACERS & Others - SLC-4E - Vandenberg SFB

Launch Date: July 22, 2025
Launch Time: 11:13 a.m. PDT (1813 UTC, 20:13 CEST)
Launch Window: 57 minutes starting at 11:13 a.m. PDT
Launch Site: SLC-4E - Vandenberg Space Force Base, California, USA

https://www.youtube.com/live/i0mDgQqDxIk

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 22, 2025 01:59 PM (S/Y4j)

253 250 The Epstein stuff has become like Area 51 now. No matter what happens or is realeased, people will believe anything could be and probably is in there.
Posted by: brak at July 22, 2025 01:59 PM (jGJov)

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Empire of Lies.

You have every reason to distrust anything anyone in power says.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 22, 2025 02:00 PM (GBKbO)

254 >>> 239 But I'm a creep. I'm a weirdo...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 22, 2025 01:57 PM (xcxpd)
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Keep going, I think you're on to something!
Posted by: Beck at July 22, 2025 01:58 PM (tT6L1)

Um...

Posted by: Radiohead at July 22, 2025 02:00 PM (ULPxl)

255 235 207 >>>It was obvious from the start that Russia would have preferred Hillary.

which party makes oil prices go up?
Posted by: brak at July 22, 2025 01:55 PM (jGJov)

=======

"That doesn't matter. Putin has kompromat on Trump when he drank hooker pee on Obama's bed!"
-DU, 99.9999993% probability
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 22, 2025 01:58 PM (GBKbO)

Careful, you'll get called a glowie. Again.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 22, 2025 02:01 PM (xcxpd)

256 253 Concur.

Posted by: For gp, The Action IS The Juice at July 22, 2025 02:01 PM (kRXt7)

257 The only 100% proof Hilary had of the Russians conspiring was in her vodka bottles...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 22, 2025 02:01 PM (ynpvh)

258 so they are going to slow roll any release
Posted by: Don Black

Judges make the call on release of grand jury information, not the DoJ. And input from victims, if still living, is always a factor governing exactly what can be released. The usual requirement is redaction of necessary facts so as to identify the witness.

Remember, all sorts of evidence is allowed in grand juries that would never be permitted at trial. Such as witness speculation, inferences, recounting hearsay gossip, and so on.

As a result, that is why grand jury evidence is generally kept secret.

Posted by: whig at July 22, 2025 02:01 PM (ctrM5)

259 It should be possible to oppose what Israel is doing without being so labeled.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2025 01:56 PM (rG5we)

Agreed.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 22, 2025 02:01 PM (i24o9)

260 Real shame someone drove into Virginia Guffiere and then when that didn't quite kill her she up and committed suicide isn't it?
Posted by: The Deep State at July 22, 2025 01:59 PM (t0

She was a recruiter for Epstein also.

Posted by: polynikes at July 22, 2025 02:01 PM (VofaG)

261 "Aspire, attempt, appearances," etc. will get him out of this. Prediction.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 22, 2025 01:55 PM (HL/Ld)

Nope. The new doc releases make the connections between the players, in accordance to an established timeline, much stronger. Bureaucratic persiflage isn't going to cut it.

Posted by: mrp at July 22, 2025 02:01 PM (rj6Yv)

262 The left slowly but surely morphed from we oppose Israel to fuck the Jews, they control everything. Unsurprisingly.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 22, 2025 02:02 PM (Vvm2m)

263 255 Careful, you'll get called a glowie. Again.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 22, 2025 02:01 PM (xcxpd)

=======

*shrugs*

Just think, you be hatin' me and I'm just over here watchin' Michael Gambon doing an Texas accent.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 22, 2025 02:02 PM (GBKbO)

264 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 22, 2025 01:58 PM (GBKbO)

Careful, you'll get called a glowie. Again.

I have it on well documented authority that someone named James Madison did in fact draw a salary from the federal government. And they even gave free housing to his wife as well.

Posted by: Some whistleblower at July 22, 2025 02:02 PM (t0Rmr)

265 Like that makes you special or something!!!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 22, 2025 01:55 PM (ULPxl)

I WISH I was special. But I'm a creep. I'm a weirdo...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 22, 2025 01:57 PM (xcxpd)

https://youtu.be/XFkzRNyygfk
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 22, 2025 01:59 PM (ynpvh)

Love the guitar in that.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 22, 2025 02:02 PM (xcxpd)

266 You threw in with *Candace*. Its impossible to do that without stepping knee-deep into anti-semitism.
Posted by: Crusader at July 22, 2025 01:58 PM (TN0g+)

So you are just too stupid to argue with.

Ok, I'm not going to.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2025 02:02 PM (rG5we)

267 >>> Kinda fits in here.

Funny thread. Conspiracy theories you totally believe.

https://is.gd/te7blH
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at July 22, 2025 01:30 PM (iQ1wk)

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I agreed with many more than I should admit.

Posted by: Turn 2 at July 22, 2025 02:02 PM (CyFyf)

268 264 I have it on well documented authority that someone named James Madison did in fact draw a salary from the federal government. And they even gave free housing to his wife as well.
Posted by: Some whistleblower at July 22, 2025 02:02 PM (t0Rmr)

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I BURNED IT DOWN! I DID IT! I JUST BLAMED THE BRITISH!

I couldn't hold it in anymore.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 22, 2025 02:02 PM (GBKbO)

269 >>> 239 But I'm a creep. I'm a weirdo...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 22, 2025 01:57 PM (xcxpd)
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Keep going, I think you're on to something!
Posted by: Beck at July 22, 2025 01:58 PM (tT6L1)

Um...
Posted by: Radiohead at July 22, 2025 02:00 PM (ULPxl)

I'm a joker, I'm a smoker
I'm a midnight toker

Posted by: Steve Milller at July 22, 2025 02:02 PM (wVcYX)

270 Bureaucratic persiflage isn't going to cut it.
Posted by: mrp at July 22, 2025 02:01 PM (rj6Yv)
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We are seeing some excellent words get used around AoS lately.

MSM stenographers should take note.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 22, 2025 02:02 PM (tT6L1)

271
Another escape from prosecution will be that Brennan couldn't control public opinion. BRENNAN certainly never leaked anything! HE never supplied secret info to anyone! And in any case, it's entirely up to the press to present information in whatever way they want. If they disseminate inaccurate or misleading or mistaken information, well, he can't interfere. (Press won't acknowledge they're being thrown under the bus here.)

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 22, 2025 02:03 PM (HL/Ld)

272 Youngest kiddo finally got their post-graduation offer letter. Yay!

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 22, 2025 02:03 PM (ExV1e)

273 Just think, you be hatin' me and I'm just over here watchin' Michael Gambon doing an Texas accent.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 22, 2025 02:02 PM (GBKbO)

Well he IS Gandalf. He can do anything.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 22, 2025 02:03 PM (xcxpd)

274 I have it on well documented authority that someone named James Madison did in fact draw a salary from the federal government. And they even gave free housing to his wife as well.
Posted by: Some whistleblower at July 22, 2025 02:02 PM (t0Rmr)

Didn't he also write pamphlets under an alias?

Hmmm.....

Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2025 02:03 PM (rG5we)

275 Mysterious 'planet killer', comet named 3I/ATLAS, hurtling towards us from distant part of the galaxy revealed

Posted by: SMOD at July 22, 2025 01:59 PM (RHGPo)

In keeping with the theme, first search results for "3I/ATLAS":

>>>Harvard Physicist Claims New Interstellar Comet is Alien Probe

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 22, 2025 02:03 PM (i24o9)

276 273 Just think, you be hatin' me and I'm just over here watchin' Michael Gambon doing an Texas accent.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 22, 2025 02:02 PM (GBKbO)

Well he IS Gandalf. He can do anything.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 22, 2025 02:03 PM (xcxpd)

======

No better Batman!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 22, 2025 02:03 PM (GBKbO)

277 Epstein stuff has become like Area 51 now. No matter what happens or is realeased, people will believe anything could be and probably is in there.
Posted by: brak at July 22, 2025 01:59 PM (jGJov)

So you’re saying Epstein was an alien?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 22, 2025 02:03 PM (Vvm2m)

278
Obama already has his foreign hideaway bought and paid for.

It's Hawaii.

Posted by: Auspex at July 22, 2025 02:03 PM (Y8DZL)

279 You threw in with *Candace*. Its impossible to do that without stepping knee-deep into anti-semitism.
Posted by: Crusader at July 22, 2025 01:58 PM (TN0g+)

So you are just too stupid to argue with.

Ok, I'm not going to.
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I'm not the one siding with Candace--that's you. Own it. And then tell us all you aren't anti-semitic.

Posted by: Crusader at July 22, 2025 02:03 PM (TN0g+)

280 Posted by: Crusader at July 22, 2025 01:58 PM (TN0g+)

Scroll by is your friend.

Posted by: polynikes at July 22, 2025 02:03 PM (VofaG)

281 My thought reading this is...old news.

I mean, yeah...this is exactly what we thought happened. Finding an e-mail proving what was obviously true...meh.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at July 22, 2025 02:03 PM (gDhA9)

282 259 I do feel your frustration, BurtTC. I suggest that you have to decide: to futilely try to change minds by argument (which never worked for me,) or just accept that this is a strongly pro-Israel, and paranoid, site, roll with it, and try to have fun.

Posted by: For gp, The Action IS The Juice at July 22, 2025 02:04 PM (kRXt7)

283 "Can you really prove Moscow was trying to get Trump elected?" the official asked in late December 2016.

Immaterial WRT attempts to sabotage the Trump Administration. Every major power tries to leverage some influence on opposing countries. If an election is happening, it's an absolute target and it happens every. single. time. there's a transfer of power.

Prove Moscow's attempts or not, Trump had ABSOLUTELY ZERO to do with it. It cannot serve as the predicate for a coup. The coup was an independent, self-created internal sabotage of the American system of governance and stands alone as its own crime.

In a better age, a lot of very powerful - the most powerful, actually - should and would hang for what the Clinton-Obama regime did. They didn't just commit crimes against Trump; they committed crimes against the nation. They violated the very principles of Democracy and, after observing the Biden-era trends, were dangerously close to destroying the United States.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at July 22, 2025 02:04 PM (gLikB)

284 Youngest kiddo finally got their post-graduation offer letter. Yay!

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 22, 2025 02:03 PM (ExV1e)

Congrats! Clean out their room and turn it into whatever.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 22, 2025 02:04 PM (i24o9)

285 Replay for anyone who values clarity:

This week has brought into total focus the psychological operation that is going on under Trump II. At a time when we should be happy, celebratory, elated - Kamala lost, Trump won, the media sucks, woke is on a downturn.

There is an op going on under our noses.

The op is to divide the right wing. I know we have always argued here - duh - usually when losing. But lately there is a fracture in each story jussst in a place where "both sides" only seem to have half of it. And "both sides" of that argument feel equally strongly, and want to kill each other.

It has happened enough times now that I know it's engineered. Two would be coincidence. Three is a trend.

My guess is they're using a combo of AI to come up with schisms, setting media narratives to press along fault lines, and then using paid disruptors to distribute narratives that will appeal to each faction.

Why divide us? Because it's the only move that makes sense in a Trump II world. It explains why in some ways they have been letting Trump cook. Taking him on too directly would unite his side more. Instead they are starting with paper cuts, and digging until they become a wound.

Posted by: ... at July 22, 2025 02:04 PM (9/ad+)

286 Stevie Wonder isn't blind (so the story goes). One celebrity (can't remember who) asserts that something bad started to go down in a hotel suite and that they saw Stevie JET around furniture, tables, people, etc in his haste to exit the room.

I've seen video of him and his entourage walking around the NAMM show in recent years (musical instruments and gear trade show - he's been there every year it's been held for 40+ years now) and he navigates a crowded convention hall better than I do. To be fair, when you have an entourage it's a lot easier.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 22, 2025 02:04 PM (2ocoG)

287 I do feel your frustration, BurtTC. I suggest that you have to decide: to futilely try to change minds by argument (which never worked for me,) or just accept that this is a strongly pro-Israel, and paranoid, site, roll with it, and try to have fun.

Posted by: For gp, The Action IS The Juice at July 22, 2025 02:04 PM (kRXt7)

Good advice.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 22, 2025 02:05 PM (i24o9)

288 In 2004 British citizens openly campaigned for John Kerry in Ohio.

Nothing was done to them, to Britain, or to John Kerry...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 22, 2025 02:05 PM (t0Rmr)

289 276 273 Just think, you be hatin' me and I'm just over here watchin' Michael Gambon doing an Texas accent.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 22, 2025 02:02 PM (GBKbO)

Well he IS Gandalf. He can do anything.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 22, 2025 02:03 PM (xcxpd)

======

No better Batman!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 22, 2025 02:03 PM (GBKbO)

Now I really want to see Michael Gambon fight choreography. Can't be worse than on Buffy.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 22, 2025 02:05 PM (xcxpd)

290 Andrew McCarthy is basically defending the claim that a report that Trump paid prostitutes in Moscow to urinate on the bed Obama slept on as justification to issue wiretap warrants against the entire Trump administration.

That's the meaning of "we already knew all this and it doesn't matter."

Because--to date--not one person who aided or supported the Russian Hoax has stated that any part of the Steele Dossier was false.

They all just hand-wave past the salacious and ridiculous parts and pretend there were other, verified and serious, parts that justified the whole thing.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 22, 2025 02:05 PM (yxVqi)

291 Congrats! Clean out their room and turn it into whatever.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 22, 2025 02:04 PM (i24o9)

They still have to graduate, and get their own place, but at least they know they've got a job lined up.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 22, 2025 02:06 PM (ExV1e)

292 It occurs to me that there are probably a number of bit players (Pelosi and Schiff come to mind, as to a number of Obama era aids) that while on the edges of all this, are also at risk. Might they feel some pressure to testify?
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 22, 2025 01:49 PM (Q4IgG)

The turtle knew. Oh yes, he knew.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 22, 2025 02:06 PM (g8Ew8)

293 289 Now I really want to see Michael Gambon fight choreography. Can't be worse than on Buffy.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 22, 2025 02:05 PM (xcxpd)

=======

Taken 2's got nothing on Batman: The Elder Years starring Michael Gambon.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 22, 2025 02:06 PM (GBKbO)

294 Bureaucratic persiflage isn't going to cut it.
Posted by: mrp at July 22, 2025 02:01 PM (rj6Yv)
-------------

We are seeing some excellent words get used around AoS lately.

MSM stenographers should take note.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 22, 2025 02:02 PM (tT6L1)

Around ace's place, you can observe a lot just by watching.

Posted by: Zombie Yogi Berra at July 22, 2025 02:07 PM (wVcYX)

295 In 2004 British citizens openly campaigned for John Kerry in Ohio.

Nothing was done to them, to Britain, or to John Kerry...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 22, 2025 02:05 PM (t0Rm

Obama openly gave funds to an Israeli PAC that was opposed to Netanyahu in the election.

Posted by: polynikes at July 22, 2025 02:07 PM (VofaG)

296 The government made contact with what they believe are aliens. And a lot of the cultural changes the deep state/WEF types push are based on their advice.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 22, 2025 01:36 PM (t0Rmr)

It does seem like we’re living in a reality show based on that alien show “V” they did twice, or “Colony” which ripped it off, or “Childhood’s End”.

The crazy ideas they’ve pushed on us for decades are like terribly written scripts based on dystopian sci-fi.

It all being aliens would explain the fascination with transsexuals, though.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 22, 2025 02:07 PM (6ydKt)

297 BREAKING: The judge handling the case requested by AG Bondi to unseal the Epstein grand jury files has issued a response.

The court has stated that DOJ must provide specific details, including which transcripts it wants unsealed, and that input from victims is also required.
Posted by: SMOD

All. Of. It. You simpering git. It doesn't get more specific than that. All. Of. It.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 22, 2025 02:07 PM (ndc+z)

298
Posted by: mrp at July 22, 2025 02:01 PM (rj6Yv)

==============

I haven't seen all the new doc releases, and I don't have a subscription to Racket News, but one thing that may be a little shaky is that much of it is intercepted and interpreted-to-English Russian intel. "What, you're going to rely on Russian intel to indict US officials?!?!?! First, it was planted by the Russians for this very purpose. Second, what a laugh, relying on foreign intel, which is flawed anyway. Third, you traitor!" That's my shallow guesswork. I can see partisans dismissing intercepted Russian intel wholesale with a condescending smile -- the kind Hillary specializes in.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 22, 2025 02:07 PM (HL/Ld)

299 The op is to divide the right wing. I know we have always argued here - duh - usually when losing. But lately there is a fracture in each story jussst in a place where "both sides" only seem to have half of it. And "both sides" of that argument feel equally strongly, and want to kill each other.

It has happened enough times now that I know it's engineered. Two would be coincidence. Three is a trend.

My guess is they're using a combo of AI to come up with schisms, setting media narratives to press along fault lines, and then using paid disruptors to distribute narratives that will appeal to each faction.

Why divide us? Because it's the only move that makes sense in a Trump II world. It explains why in some ways they have been letting Trump cook. Taking him on too directly would unite his side more. Instead they are starting with paper cuts, and digging until they become a wound.
Posted by: ... at July 22, 2025 02:04 PM (9/ad+)

Probably literally true.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 22, 2025 02:07 PM (xcxpd)

300 Andrew McCarthy is basically defending the claim that a report that Trump paid prostitutes in Moscow to urinate on the bed Obama slept on as justification to issue wiretap warrants against the entire Trump administration.

Leftists then: What two or more consenting adults do in private has no bearing on the office of president

Leftists during Trump V1: If the president hired a hooker when he was a private citizen he must be impeached!

Posted by: 18-1 at July 22, 2025 02:07 PM (t0Rmr)

301 Please don't think that the other side will learn anything from this. They stillrepeat the same lies and will until they die.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 22, 2025 02:07 PM (TEi+a)

302 295 In 2004 British citizens openly campaigned for John Kerry in Ohio.

Nothing was done to them, to Britain, or to John Kerry...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 22, 2025 02:05 PM (t0Rm

Obama openly gave funds to an Israeli PAC that was opposed to Netanyahu in the election.

Posted by: polynikes at July 22, 2025 02:07 PM (VofaG)

BJ Bill Clinton got foreign money funneled to him via Buddhist monks in Arizona...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 22, 2025 02:08 PM (ynpvh)

303 She was a recruiter for Epstein also.
Posted by: polynikes at July 22, 2025 02:01 PM (VofaG)

There are literally hundreds, some say thousands of young people, male and female, who were sent to the island, and just... disappeared.

The ones who survived had to go along somehow. If you're a kid, and there are former Presidents, movie stars, business moguls, and English princes saying what you're doing is right and good, it's possible you might, for a while, believe them.

Eventually, she didn't. And they killed her for it.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2025 02:08 PM (rG5we)

304 Document what they did in excruciating detail and put it in a book. Make it irrefutable. Include exact language and dates of when stuff happened. And the names of the turds who did all this crap.

Then every time the Dems try this again, pull out the book, hold it under their noses and ask, "is this more of your BS?"

Hang this fucking thing around their necks for a generation. Tell everyone - "this is WHY you can't trust democrats."

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at July 22, 2025 02:08 PM (gDhA9)

305 We are seeing some excellent words get used around AoS lately.

MSM stenographers should take note.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 22, 2025 02:02 PM (tT6L1)

I'm in a rather somber mood after reading the Wiki plot reveal for "The Hateful Eight".

Posted by: mrp at July 22, 2025 02:08 PM (rj6Yv)

306 Can you make an observation without watching?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 22, 2025 02:08 PM (FVP5O)

307 Taken 2's got nothing on Batman: The Elder Years starring Michael Gambon.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 22, 2025 02:06 PM (GBKbO)
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When I watched "Gladiator II" it appeared Pedro had no interest in fight choreography, which is why the movie lacked anything which might make one believe Pedro was a Centurion.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 22, 2025 02:08 PM (tT6L1)

308 They still have to graduate, and get their own place, but at least they know they've got a job lined up.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 22, 2025 02:06 PM (ExV1e)

It's a trap. Cut off all avenues of retreat. Prosper or perish.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 22, 2025 02:08 PM (i24o9)

309 Real shame someone drove into Virginia Guffiere and then when that didn't quite kill her she up and committed suicide isn't it?
Posted by: The Deep State
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If it was done, more likely by MI-6 or its contractees for fear that Giuffre would embarrass the royal family further. Her testimony was already in the lawsuit depositions and you can read them if you wish. Lawsuit depositions and earlier Palm Beach witness testimony have been released for a very long while.

Essentially, if the intel community spooks were involved, none of the testimony from the trafficking victims indicate this so far and my guess are unlikely to do so going forward. Same for identifying the 'guests' that they entertained other than maybe one or two. And you get the unseemly recruitment of new girls from existing ones to boot.

The people that know of IC control would be Epstein, Ghislaine, and perhaps whoever was/were the handler(s) of Epstein. Most of that, if the records still exist, will be codenamed handlers of the information from whatever codename Epstein had. If that was an MI-6 handler or some other foreign intel, not even that.

Posted by: whig at July 22, 2025 02:09 PM (ctrM5)

310 In 2004 British citizens openly campaigned for John Kerry in Ohio.

Nothing was done to them, to Britain, or to John Kerry...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 22, 2025 02:05 PM

In 2024, the British Labour Party sent 'volunteers' to campaign for Harris. Nothing was done.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 22, 2025 02:09 PM (ExV1e)

311 Taken 2's got nothing on Batman: The Elder Years starring Michael Gambon.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 22, 2025 02:06 PM (GBKbO)

You know what? I'd like to see The Dark Knight Returns with current year Arnold Swartzenegger as Batman.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 22, 2025 02:09 PM (xcxpd)

312 Now I really want to see Michael Gambon fight choreography. Can't be worse than on Buffy.

The point of fight scenes on Buffy was to have SMG kick things while wearing a mini-skirt. Or to get in sexually charged arguments with Charisma Carpenter

Duh

Posted by: Joss Whedon at July 22, 2025 02:09 PM (t0Rmr)

313 301 Please don't think that the other side will learn anything from this. They still repeat the same lies and will until they die.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 22, 2025 02:07 PM (TEi+a)

Yeah, the drive of commyism and sociopathyism just don't go away; people still believe the souffle only failed, and they lost the recipe to the cake in the rain...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 22, 2025 02:09 PM (ynpvh)

314 "We are seeing some excellent words get used around AoS lately."

What was that crazy S word for whispering yesterday? I forgot it already.

Posted by: For gp, The Action IS The Juice at July 22, 2025 02:09 PM (kRXt7)

315 311 Taken 2's got nothing on Batman: The Elder Years starring Michael Gambon.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 22, 2025 02:06 PM (GBKbO)

You know what? I'd like to see The Dark Knight Returns with current year Arnold Swartzenegger as Batman.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 22, 2025 02:09 PM (xcxpd)

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Voiced-over by zombie Kevin Conroy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 22, 2025 02:09 PM (GBKbO)

316 I'm in a rather somber mood after reading the Wiki plot reveal for "The Hateful Eight".
Posted by: mrp at July 22, 2025 02:08 PM (rj6Yv)
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for a bunch of knuckle dragging cousin humping simpletons, we seem to be rather erudite.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 22, 2025 02:10 PM (tT6L1)

317 When I watched "Gladiator II" it appeared Pedro had no interest in fight choreography, which is why the movie lacked anything which might make one believe Pedro was a Centurion.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 22, 2025 02:08 PM (tT6L1)

Pedro is a lazy fucking actor and I'm done watching anything he """stars""" in.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 22, 2025 02:10 PM (xcxpd)

318 317 When I watched "Gladiator II" it appeared Pedro had no interest in fight choreography, which is why the movie lacked anything which might make one believe Pedro was a Centurion.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 22, 2025 02:08 PM (tT6L1)

Pedro is a lazy fucking actor and I'm done watching anything he """stars""" in.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 22, 2025 02:10 PM (xcxpd)

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He's such a bougie bitch.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 22, 2025 02:10 PM (GBKbO)

319 Voiced-over by zombie Kevin Conroy.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 22, 2025 02:09 PM (GBKbO)

RIP Kevin Conroy.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 22, 2025 02:10 PM (xcxpd)

320 Pedro does like gladiator movies though.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 22, 2025 02:11 PM (FVP5O)

321 312 Now I really want to see Michael Gambon fight choreography. Can't be worse than on Buffy.

The point of fight scenes on Buffy was to have SMG kick things while wearing a mini-skirt. Or to get in sexually charged arguments with Charisma Carpenter

Duh
Posted by: Joss Whedon at July 22, 2025 02:09 PM (t0Rmr)

Stop making me want to watch Buffy.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 22, 2025 02:11 PM (xcxpd)

322 They still have to graduate, and get their own place, but at least they know they've got a job lined up.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 22, 2025 02:06 PM (ExV1e)

It's a trap. Cut off all avenues of retreat. Prosper or perish.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 22, 2025 02:08 PM (i24o9)

This guy gets it.

Posted by: Hernan Cortez at July 22, 2025 02:11 PM (wVcYX)

323 When I watched "Gladiator II" it appeared Pedro had no interest in fight choreography, which is why the movie lacked anything which might make one believe Pedro was a Centurion.

Yet he is one of the most experienced hollywood actors when it comes to having a latin man use him as a sword sheath....

Posted by: Joss Whedon at July 22, 2025 02:11 PM (t0Rmr)

324 All. Of. It. You simpering git. It doesn't get more specific than that. All. Of. It.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 22, 2025 02:07 PM (ndc+z)

The problem is that a lot of innocent people are mentioned in the court documents and a lot of the plaintiffs were proven to be lying.

Posted by: polynikes at July 22, 2025 02:12 PM (VofaG)

325 Scooby Doo rips off the Lightbringers mask...

and it's The Shadowcaster.

Posted by: eleven at July 22, 2025 02:12 PM (fV+MH)

326 I do feel your frustration, BurtTC. I suggest that you have to decide: to futilely try to change minds by argument (which never worked for me,) or just accept that this is a strongly pro-Israel, and paranoid, site, roll with it, and try to have fun.

Posted by: For gp, The Action IS The Juice at July 22, 2025 02:04 PM (kRXt7)

Good advice.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 22, 2025 02:05 PM (i24o9)

Well, I'm certainly not going to relitigate any of that, but my policy has been for a long time, not to say much of anything about what's going on over there... until MY President, and MY government looked like they were going to war.

And then when the President managed to put an end to things without doing much of anything, I praised him, and admitted I was wrong about him.

I care what MY country is doing, and I only have loyalty to one country.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2025 02:12 PM (rG5we)

327 Can you make an observation without watching?
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 22, 2025 02:08 PM (FVP5O)

I totally wrote dozens of books on my thoughts despite, theoretically, having almost no sensory input from the world around me. -- Helen Keller

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 22, 2025 02:12 PM (ExV1e)

328 314 "We are seeing some excellent words get used around AoS lately."

What was that crazy S word for whispering yesterday? I forgot it already.
Posted by: For gp, The Action IS The Juice at July 22, 2025 02:09 PM (kRXt7)

susurration?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 22, 2025 02:12 PM (xcxpd)

329 317 When I watched "Gladiator II" it appeared Pedro had no interest in fight choreography, which is why the movie lacked anything which might make one believe Pedro was a Centurion.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 22, 2025 02:08 PM (tT6L1)

Pedro is a lazy fucking actor and I'm done watching anything he """stars""" in.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 22, 2025 02:10 PM (xcxpd)

https://youtu.be/wugWGhItaQA&t=57s

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 22, 2025 02:12 PM (ynpvh)

330 That's one of the big ones I want to know. The self-righteous lefties were oh so sure of themselves that Crowdstrike delivered a straight up, no BS, objective work product, paid for by the DNC who also paid for the made up the pee pee Dossier.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 22, 2025 01:57 PM (i24o9)

I was really upset about this myself. If the claim was that the Russians hacked the computer why wasn't the investigation conducted by an actual US Law Enforcement entity, rather than a fucking "private" investigator like Crowdstrike? If my house gets broken into and I suspect my neighbor (and want to fuck him over), I call the fucking Sheriff to investigate , not a private fucking eye.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at July 22, 2025 02:12 PM (KQmzo)

331
susurrus

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 22, 2025 02:13 PM (xG4kz)

332 You know what? I'd like to see The Dark Knight Returns with current year Arnold Swartzenegger as Batman.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

You're seeing it play out in real time with the State Farm/Bateman ads where Jason Bateman rides a hoveround.

Arnold is 78.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 22, 2025 02:13 PM (ndc+z)

333 I care what MY country is doing, and I only have loyalty to one country.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2025 02:12 PM (rG5we)

And that country is of course, 1930's Germany.

Posted by: ... at July 22, 2025 02:13 PM (9/ad+)

334 Please don't think that the other side will learn anything from this. They stillrepeat the same lies and will until they die.
Posted by: Notsothoreau

Insufficient reason to and no countervailing movement inside the party.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 22, 2025 02:13 PM (mlg/3)

335
Prove Moscow's attempts or not, Trump had ABSOLUTELY ZERO to do with it. It cannot serve as the predicate for a coup. The coup was an independent, self-created internal sabotage of the American system of governance and stands alone as its own crime.

In a better age, a lot of very powerful - the most powerful, actually - should and would hang for what the Clinton-Obama regime did. They didn't just commit crimes against Trump; they committed crimes against the nation. They violated the very principles of Democracy and, after observing the Biden-era trends, were dangerously close to destroying the United States.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel

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And there's another weak point. Did the Obama administration at any point state that Trump colluded with the Russians? Or did they leave that to the not-prosecutable press?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 22, 2025 02:13 PM (HL/Ld)

336 332 You're seeing it play out in real time with the State Farm/Bateman ads where Jason Bateman rides a hoveround.

Arnold is 78.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 22, 2025 02:13 PM (ndc+z)

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We still need a King Conan, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 22, 2025 02:14 PM (GBKbO)

337 SCRUBBED

Posted by: Don Black at July 22, 2025 02:14 PM (AOsQT)

338 https://youtu.be/wugWGhItaQA&t=57s
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 22, 2025 02:12 PM (ynpvh)

Sigh.
Great songs and cinematography but West Side Story is damn near gay porn, like Top Gun.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 22, 2025 02:14 PM (xcxpd)

339 susurrus
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 22, 2025 02:13 PM (xG4kz)

He was a good godfather for Harry Potter.

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 22, 2025 02:14 PM (MGB5H)

340 320 Pedro does like gladiator movies though.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 22, 2025 02:11 PM (FVP5O)

https://youtu.be/Gd0NtQDio20&t=53s

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 22, 2025 02:14 PM (ynpvh)

341 Ozzy Osbourne has died,
I was supposed to see him my wife got the VIP package for my Birthday and Covid hit and I never got to see him

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 22, 2025 02:14 PM (FCrpy)

342
16 Brennan simply looks like a villian from a Bond movie or comic book. With his beady evil eyes and ugly, fat, bald head, stumpy penguin body.

I think I hate him. I try not to think about him, but I would watch his perp walk.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 22, 2025 01:25 PM (6PCLE)

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Back when Brennan was riding high and keeping his cool, he looked like an impassive Easter Island stone head. Now he's rattled, and looks like a frightened little man with intestinal distress. See, this is not supposed to happen to him, he's supposed to be doing this to other people, does not compute...

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at July 22, 2025 02:14 PM (DokPW)

343 331 Yes that one!

Posted by: For gp, The Action IS The Juice at July 22, 2025 02:14 PM (kRXt7)

344 Crowdstrike caused the biggest internet outage in history last year.

Competence is not one of their "core values"

Posted by: 18-1 at July 22, 2025 02:14 PM (t0Rmr)

345 Why divide us? Because it's the only move that makes sense in a Trump II world. It explains why in some ways they have been letting Trump cook. Taking him on too directly would unite his side more. Instead they are starting with paper cuts, and digging until they become a wound.
Posted by: ... at July 22, 2025 02:04 PM (9/ad+)

Probably literally true.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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Makes political sense, not logical. About like QAnon or the newer BlueAnon. Posit something that cannot be proven and allege a widespead coverup involving all of the elites in society--the technique is very old (Trust) is an example.

UFO conspiracies arose when the Air Force decided to use people's beliefs as a conduit for disinformation about secret projects that might be seen.

Trust was to persuade gullible idiots that the Soviet regime was about to fall with widespread defections of its officials.

QAnon, that the Trump I administration was in desperate battle to fight back against a whole legion of pedophiles, satanists, etc. All things would be resolved by simply trusting the plan and all events that would be seen were part of the plan.

BlueAnon are the leftist version of it.

Posted by: whig at July 22, 2025 02:15 PM (ctrM5)

346 338 Top Gun.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 22, 2025 02:14 PM (xcxpd)

=======

Replace all of Val Kilmer's dialogue with Tom Cruise to, "No, I'm the sassiest bitch."

And you don't lose a step.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 22, 2025 02:15 PM (GBKbO)

347 RIP Ozzy Ozbourne

Posted by: Life of Wryly at July 22, 2025 02:15 PM (ycs3a)

348 Ozzy Osbourne has died,

Didn't he just do a show ?

Posted by: It's me donna at July 22, 2025 02:15 PM (VE6XX)

349 Stop making me want to watch Buffy.

Buffy really was well written, outside of some typical first-season weirdness. Sarah Michelle Gellar in a miniskirt and Alyson Hannigan pretending to be a hot lesbian didn't hurt, of course.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 22, 2025 02:15 PM (2ocoG)

350 You're seeing it play out in real time with the State Farm/Bateman ads where Jason Bateman rides a hoveround.

Arnold is 78.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 22, 2025 02:13 PM (ndc+z)

haven't seen those yet.
And yeah, Arnold is old...that's why I think he'd work for Dark Knight Returns. Because he is so, so clearly past his prime. But he HAD a prime once.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 22, 2025 02:15 PM (xcxpd)

351 Wow. Two SpaceX Aborts in 2 days. This one was caused by a range issue.

Yesterday's aborted launch was rescheduled for today.

GO! - SpaceX - Falcon 9 - O3b mPOWER 9 & 10 - SLC-40

Launch Date: July 22, 2025
Launch Time: 5:12 p.m. EDT (2112 UTC, 23:12 CEST)
Launch Window: Open for 120 minutes until 7:12 p.m. EDT
Launch Site: SLC-40 - Cape Canaveral Space Force Station, Florida, USA

https://www.youtube.com/live/87YYusvzJz4

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 22, 2025 02:16 PM (S/Y4j)

352
What difference, at this point, does it make?1/1/!?11??

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at July 22, 2025 02:16 PM (EFZgU)

353
Buffy really was well written, outside of some typical first-season weirdness. Sarah Michelle Gellar in a miniskirt and Alyson Hannigan pretending to be a hot lesbian didn't hurt, of course.

Seasons 2-5 were great. Six was mostly garbage. And seven was more rancid then Ganges water

Posted by: 18-1 at July 22, 2025 02:16 PM (t0Rmr)

354 susurrus

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 22, 2025 02:13 PM (xG4kz)

I hated that song.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 22, 2025 02:16 PM (i24o9)

355 Didn't he just do a show ?
Posted by: It's me donna at July 22, 2025 02:15 PM (VE6XX

Yup it was to be the Black Sabbath reunion and last show. He had to sit in a chair the whole time.

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 22, 2025 02:16 PM (MGB5H)

356 There is a long list of people in government who deserve our utmost contempt. But T the top of that list is Hillary. Think about it. To satiate her own ego, something she is still trying to do, she burned down the entire constitution and a government of, by and for the people. Furthermore, and perhaps even worse, she left my brothers to die in Benghazi. All for her own political ambition. Taken together, it’s probably the most insidious action because it kicked off the attempted coup by Obama and his cronies.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 22, 2025 02:16 PM (hMp8v)

357 I mean, no way they would stoop to fixing the 2020 election though... I mean that would be taking things too far...

Posted by: Inogame at July 22, 2025 02:17 PM (53oGX)

358 Ozzy Osbourne has died.

Our perimeter walls are safe again.

Posted by: The Alamo at July 22, 2025 02:17 PM (wVcYX)

359 344 Crowdstrike caused the biggest internet outage in history last year.

Competence is not one of their "core values"
Posted by: 18-1
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Depends. Denial of Service due to botnets would be a lot worse without crowdstrike applied to individual websites being off line but setting up such to filter that out of the internet means a vulnerable chokepoint in the internet. Same issue though for major service providers like Verizon which had a large outage, ATT has in the past, and so on.

Posted by: whig at July 22, 2025 02:17 PM (ctrM5)

360 RIP Ozzy.
Perfect timing for his farewell show, I guess.

The man lived a life, for sure.

Now HOW is Keith Richards still around????

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 22, 2025 02:17 PM (xcxpd)

361
Back when Brennan was riding high and keeping his cool, he looked like an impassive Easter Island stone head. Now he's rattled, and looks like a frightened little man with intestinal distress. See, this is not supposed to happen to him, he's supposed to be doing this to other people, does not compute...
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug

===============

And you can tell when he's rattled. He literally stammers and looks a bit frightened or at least surprised.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 22, 2025 02:17 PM (HL/Ld)

362 348 Ozzy Osbourne has died,

Didn't he just do a show ?
Posted by: It's me donna at July 22, 2025 02:15 PM (VE6XX)

Yeah. it was the Last Black Sabbath concert

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 22, 2025 02:17 PM (FCrpy)

363 341 Ozzy Osbourne has died,
I was supposed to see him my wife got the VIP package for my Birthday and Covid hit and I never got to see him

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 22, 2025 02:14 PM (FCrpy)

When James Brown died, they had billboards from the local Indian (feather) casinos proclaiming, "See James Brown, LIVE!"...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 22, 2025 02:17 PM (ynpvh)

364 They concluded that Russia lacked both the intent and even the capability of "hacking the election" -- an allegation the drunken harridan Hillary Clinton was making.
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WHAT?! They're defending Putin??!!!

Surely because it's the type of thing a cartoon villain would want to do, Cartoon Putin had the intent!

Seems they have not renounced Putin and all his schemes....

Posted by: Axeman at July 22, 2025 02:17 PM (krQz2)

365 I care what MY country is doing, and I only have loyalty to one country.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2025 02:12 PM (rG5we)

And that country is of course, 1930's Germany.
Posted by: ... at July 22, 2025 02:13 PM (9/ad+)

Hah!

Mussolini was right!!!

Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2025 02:17 PM (rG5we)

366 326 It's all good with me. Just remember that ad hominem is the primary debating tool here. Name-calling. Poo-flinging. No unpopular proposition is analyzed seriously without imputing bad motives to the person proposing it.

It's been like that from the very beginning. So just don't expect to change any minds, or to have any fun trying to.

Posted by: For gp, The Action IS The Juice at July 22, 2025 02:17 PM (kRXt7)

367 362 348 Ozzy Osbourne has died,

Didn't he just do a show ?
Posted by: It's me donna at July 22, 2025 02:15 PM (VE6XX)

Yeah. it was the Last Black Sabbath concert

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 22, 2025 02:17 PM (FCrpy)

At least for him.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 22, 2025 02:18 PM (ynpvh)

368 RIP Ozzy Ozbourne

Posted by: Life of Wryly at July 22, 2025 02:15 PM (ycs3a)

76 is quite the run for him. RIP.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 22, 2025 02:18 PM (i24o9)

369 Posted by: whig at July 22, 2025 02:15 PM (ctrM5)

Can't tell if you are catching my wave here or not.

Basically I will watch every piece of everything and not make a determination until things line up. Until I have enough. I mean I'll always have an opinion on anything but I won't claim certainty or anything like that unless things have snapped into place like they just recently have.

It's very interesting what is going on, and once you see it you can't unsee it. More than that, more than stupid me and my dumb opinions, Trump spotted the operation and is dealing with it.

Posted by: ... at July 22, 2025 02:18 PM (9/ad+)

370 Posted by: For gp, The Action IS The Juice at July 22, 2025 02:17 PM (kRXt7)

Somebody doesn't understand humor...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 22, 2025 02:18 PM (ynpvh)

371 Ozzie has died.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 22, 2025 02:19 PM (u73oe)

372 RIP Ozzy Ozbourne

Posted by: Life of Wryly at July 22, 2025 02:15 PM (ycs3a)

76 is quite the run for him. RIP.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 22, 2025 02:18 PM (i24o9)

Mama he's coming home.

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 22, 2025 02:19 PM (MGB5H)

373
That crazy "I had a 4:00 AM dream that Red Kammie won" beeyotch is showing up in my YT suggestions. And not just her, those of like mind.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 22, 2025 02:19 PM (xG4kz)

374 Ozzy Osbourne has died,
I was supposed to see him my wife got the VIP package for my Birthday and Covid hit and I never got to see him
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 22, 2025 02:14 PM (FCrpy)

He's been standing at death's door for the last twenty years and it finally opened.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 22, 2025 02:19 PM (g8Ew8)

375 RIP Ozzy Ozbourne
Posted by: Life of Wryly at July 22, 2025 02:15 PM (ycs3a)

We always get our man, eventually.

It's not elephants who never forget.

Posted by: The Bats at July 22, 2025 02:19 PM (rG5we)

376 "No More Tears" is my fave Black Sabbath cut.

Posted by: For gp, The Action IS The Juice at July 22, 2025 02:19 PM (kRXt7)

377 370 Posted by: For gp, The Action IS The Juice at July 22, 2025 02:17 PM (kRXt7)

Somebody doesn't understand humor...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 22, 2025 02:18 PM (ynpvh)

=======

Well, I certainly didn't get it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 22, 2025 02:19 PM (GBKbO)

378 Ozzie Osbourne morte at 76.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 22, 2025 02:19 PM (/U5Yz)

379 I left everything to Keith Richards in my will.

Posted by: eleven at July 22, 2025 02:19 PM (fV+MH)

380 372 RIP Ozzy Ozbourne

Posted by: Life of Wryly at July 22, 2025 02:15 PM (ycs3a)

76 is quite the run for him. RIP.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 22, 2025 02:18 PM (i24o9)

Mama he's coming home.
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 22, 2025 02:19 PM (MGB5H)

ISWYDT

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 22, 2025 02:19 PM (xcxpd)

381 Ozzy

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 22, 2025 02:20 PM (/U5Yz)

382 You know what? I'd like to see The Dark Knight Returns with current year Arnold Swartzenegger as Batman.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

You're seeing it play out in real time with the State Farm/Bateman ads where Jason Bateman rides a hoveround.

Arnold is 78.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 22, 2025 02:13 PM (ndc+z)

A German-language version of "King Lear" with Ah-nuld playing the title role would be interesting.

Posted by: mrp at July 22, 2025 02:20 PM (rj6Yv)

383 If you have the opportunity to hear John Kiracou (former CIA) talk about John Brennan, do so.

John Brennan was a no-talent, butt kissing hack from the get-go.

Posted by: Seems Legit at July 22, 2025 02:20 PM (PMtkd)

384 Epstein stuff has become like Area 51 now. No matter what happens or is realeased, people will believe anything could be and probably is in there.
Posted by: brak at July 22, 2025 01:59 PM (jGJov)

Well, the government can eliminate this kind of thing by classifying less and declassifying more in a more timely fashion. In short, a democratic republic could operate with the degree of transparency that befits a democratic republic. Instead, we have all this A Few Good Men "you can't handle the truth" posturing no
matter who's in office.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 22, 2025 02:20 PM (xzkgE)

385 They underestimate Trump. They fooked up.

They thought DJT would be a speed bump on their road to a coup of the US Government. They chose poorly.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 22, 2025 02:20 PM (hMp8v)

386 That crazy "I had a 4:00 AM dream that Red Kammie won" beeyotch is showing up in my YT suggestions. And not just her, those of like mind.

Clicking a link like that is similiar to sticking your dick in crazy.

You think you are getting a few moment of enjoyment and next thing you know your youtube suggestions look like some crazy woman cooked them on your stove top...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 22, 2025 02:20 PM (t0Rmr)

387 Schwarzenegger didn't get old.

Old got Schwarzenegger.

Posted by: eleven at July 22, 2025 02:21 PM (fV+MH)

388 Back when Brennan was riding high and keeping his cool, he looked like an impassive Easter Island stone head. Now he's rattled, and looks like a frightened little man with intestinal distress. See, this is not supposed to happen to him, he's supposed to be doing this to other people, does not compute...
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug
=======
Of all the sort of sordid people in the Intel community, the whole secret kings personas are the worst. They firmly enjoy playing the ruler behind the scenes and basking in their role as the real ruler behind the throne.

When confronted with a firing squad, they act like Beria.

Posted by: whig at July 22, 2025 02:21 PM (ctrM5)

389 Black Sabbath played at the Warehouse in New Orleans. Loud and fun , all in black and big chrome crosses. Summertime and bout a block from the river.

Posted by: Kingsman at July 22, 2025 02:21 PM (ehY6c)

390 "Now HOW is Keith Richards still around????

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards"

Keith Richards will outlive the current pop/rock stars

Posted by: Ripley at July 22, 2025 02:21 PM (GUOwU)

391 Man Ozzy always said if he stopped touring he would die......

His farewell show was like ten days ago

Posted by: brak at July 22, 2025 02:21 PM (jGJov)

392 Blonde Morticia: "And there's another weak point. Did the Obama administration at any point state that Trump colluded with the Russians? Or did they leave that to the not-prosecutable press?"

I don't recall. Clearly they suggested that and they probably actually used "collusion" in the MFM and the Deep State. I just don't recall. But, this is a good reason to institute AI. Get that search and summarize function going on the vast volumes of reportage from eight+ years of subversive publications.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at July 22, 2025 02:21 PM (gLikB)

393 Ozzie has died.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 22, 2025 02:19 PM (u73oe)
-

Poor Harriet and the kids!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 22, 2025 02:21 PM (VFv8R)

394 Since Buffy came up.

I recently read an account from James Marsters (Spike) who got into a thing w Joss Whedon.

Spike wasn't supposed to be popular, it seems. He was supposed to be a guy with six episodes and then gone. When he became popular it apparently pissed Whedon off because his (imo rather pretentious) vision was that the vampires were a metaphor for the troubles we all face and the show was about overcoming those troubles. Having Spike hanging around, in Whedon's view, fucked that all up and created bad blood (no pun intended...sigh). The studio directed Whedon to keep him around basically forever.

Also learned that Marsters had to bleach his hair every day, despite the guidelines of the product that said it would destroy your hair, because having roots showing on a tv show messes with continuity.

I read too much.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 22, 2025 02:21 PM (PzXaK)

395 Kelly Osborne just got engaged to Sid Wilson (dj from slipknot) at the Ozzy farewell show.

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 22, 2025 02:21 PM (MGB5H)

396 Ozzy Osbourne is mort.

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 22, 2025 02:21 PM (ewjUl)

397 390 "Now HOW is Keith Richards still around????

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards"

Keith Richards will outlive the current pop/rock stars
Posted by: Ripley at July 22, 2025 02:21 PM (GUOwU)

I honestly hope so

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 22, 2025 02:21 PM (xcxpd)

398
Ozzy Osbourne has died,

Now THERE was a man with an impressive resistance to catching esoteric diseases whilst pursuing a bat diet.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 22, 2025 02:21 PM (xG4kz)

399 "It's sad when the good die young."
-Keith Richards' comment on Ozzy's passing

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 22, 2025 02:22 PM (GBKbO)

400 "Somebody doesn't understand humor..."

Somebody doesn't think being called an antisemite is funny.

Posted by: For gp, The Action IS The Juice at July 22, 2025 02:22 PM (kRXt7)

401 @realannapaulina
·
36s
Fed Chair Jerome Powell has resigned.

Posted by: Don Black at July 22, 2025 02:22 PM (AOsQT)

402 Posted by: For gp, The Action IS The Juice at July 22, 2025 02:17 PM (kRXt7)

Somebody doesn't understand humor...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 22, 2025 02:18 PM (ynpvh)

The funniest part to me, was being temp banned for an "ad hominem" by a guy who's last comment to me before that day was to call me a "f**king retard."

You gotta admire that.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2025 02:22 PM (rG5we)

403 The left slowly but surely morphed from we oppose Israel to fuck the Jews, they control everything. Unsurprisingly.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald

I was astonished to learn that my sister, who converted to Judaism and hasn't given up on it yet, was actually pro-Israel after 10-7. Given her leftism, I would have expected her to be on the "support Hamas" bandwagon.

Of course that didn't prevent her from gratuitously insulting me and our brother to our faces by saying she saw no difference between Christian and Muslims immediately afterwards, so I guess she is still willfully blind to the difference between people people who find her obnoxious but still want her alive and people who hate and want her dead.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 22, 2025 02:22 PM (a+4eV)

404 Is his cause of death a mystery? Who can we get on the case?

We need...

PERRY MASON

Posted by: \m/ \m/ at July 22, 2025 02:22 PM (TbWk/)

405 Using the Comey Standard of Investigative Thoroughness, we can conclude Hillary Clinton has been directly involved in the death of hundreds and maybe thousands of people.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 22, 2025 02:22 PM (9uBLR)

406 How Ozzy survived this long is the amazing thing

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2025 02:22 PM (+qU29)

407 Ozzy Osbourne has died.

Our perimeter walls are safe again.
Posted by: The Alamo

You're telling us.
Posted by: Bats

Posted by: rickb223 at July 22, 2025 02:22 PM (ndc+z)

408 Schwarzenegger didn't get old.

Old got Schwarzenegger.

Posted by: eleven at July 22, 2025 02:21 PM (fV+MH)
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Schwarzenegger had it maid.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 22, 2025 02:23 PM (VFv8R)

409 76 is quite the run for him. RIP.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 22, 2025 02:18 PM (i24o9)

Mama he's coming home.
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 22, 2025 02:19 PM (MGB5H)

He was Running Out of Time.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 22, 2025 02:23 PM (i24o9)

410 and then she deleted the tweet

Posted by: Don Black at July 22, 2025 02:23 PM (AOsQT)

411 I'm getting the distinct impression that Ozzy Osbourne has died. Not sure why...I thought I was on a thread about treason and shit.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at July 22, 2025 02:23 PM (KQmzo)

412 Schwarzenegger told Letterman his name means "black plowman".

I'll leave it to you to figure out which part of his name means plowman.

Posted by: eleven at July 22, 2025 02:23 PM (fV+MH)

413 401 @realannapaulina
·
36s
Fed Chair Jerome Powell has resigned.
Posted by: Don Black at July 22, 2025 02:22 PM (AOsQT)

Really ?The threat about misuse of funds for the building of the Fed reserve building must have had legs...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 22, 2025 02:23 PM (VE6XX)

414
It was obvious from the start that Russia would have preferred Hillary.

Posted by: brak

=============

Her "explanations" to the contrary were so stupid and easily disproved that they should have embarrassed her. But her AWFL supporters in academia and journalism lapped them up!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 22, 2025 02:23 PM (HL/Ld)

415 @realannapaulina
·
36s
Fed Chair Jerome Powell has resigned.
Posted by: Don Black at July 22, 2025 02:22 PM (AOsQT)

On the same day Ozzy dies?

Coincidence???

I THINK NOT!!!

Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2025 02:23 PM (rG5we)

416 Ozzy seemed way older than 76. I guess it was all that clean living.

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 22, 2025 02:23 PM (ewjUl)

417 374 Ozzy Osbourne has died,
I was supposed to see him my wife got the VIP package for my Birthday and Covid hit and I never got to see him
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 22, 2025 02:14 PM (FCrpy)

He's been standing at death's door for the last twenty years and it finally opened.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 22, 2025 02:19 PM (g8Ew

Will Sharon have him Stuffed and then wheel out his body for Concerts??

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 22, 2025 02:23 PM (FCrpy)

418 402 Posted by: For gp, The Action IS The Juice at July 22, 2025 02:17 PM (kRXt7)

Somebody doesn't understand humor...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 22, 2025 02:18 PM (ynpvh)

The funniest part to me, was being temp banned for an "ad hominem" by a guy who's last comment to me before that day was to call me a "f**king retard."

You gotta admire that.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2025 02:22 PM (rG5we)

I never had sex with a retard.

Posted by: BJ Bill Clinton at July 22, 2025 02:23 PM (ynpvh)

419 You are reading a story about how people in the government subverted the entire democratic process by using false information as a basis for a supposedly legitimate purpose, that was ultimately treasonous and nothing of the sort.

Yet you’re perfectly willing to accept all the Epstein files that haven’t been released are totes real and not planted by Biden officials.

One of these isn’t like the other.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 22, 2025 02:24 PM (hMp8v)

420 BlueAnon are the leftist version of it.
Posted by: whig at July 22, 2025 02:15 PM (ctrM5)

Free Masons and the Illuminati conspiracy theories have been big for a long while.

The new “4 A.M. Club” from yesterday is at least entertaining, as well as completely nuts.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 22, 2025 02:24 PM (6ydKt)

421 Marcus T: "They thought DJT would be a speed bump on their road to a coup of the US Government. They chose poorly."

Given history, they placed the right bet. Trump just happens to be their Black Swan. Thank God.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at July 22, 2025 02:24 PM (gLikB)

422 413 401 @realannapaulina
·
36s
Fed Chair Jerome Powell has resigned.
Posted by: Don Black at July 22, 2025 02:22 PM (AOsQT)

Really ?The threat about misuse of funds for the building of the Fed reserve building must have had legs...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 22, 2025 02:23 PM (VE6XX)

=======

There's a supposedly fake resignation letter from Powell floating around.

I don't think he's resigned.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 22, 2025 02:24 PM (GBKbO)

423 Routine security review.

Posted by: Dirac_Delta at July 22, 2025 02:24 PM (Vjy1G)

424 @realannapaulina
·
36s
Fed Chair Jerome Powell has resigned.

Posted by: Don Black at July 22, 2025 02:22 PM (AOsQT)

It's another Trumpmas miracle!

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 22, 2025 02:24 PM (i24o9)

425 Well, the government can eliminate this kind of thing by classifying less and declassifying more in a more timely fashion. In short, a democratic republic could operate with the degree of transparency that befits a democratic republic. Instead, we have all this A Few Good Men "you can't handle the truth" posturing no
matter who's in office.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls

Dealing with foreign countries will ALWAYS have those issues way back to George Washington's diplomatic efforts. See Federalist 78--the executive can and should act with secrecy and dispatch whereas the legislative branch cannot.

During the Revolutionary War, Congressional inability to manage foreign diplomacy was notoriously bad and they damn near sunk our alliance with France because of it.

So, you want ot cut back the secrecy, then it will require a major retrenchment to home grounds, even then, there will always be some of it in defense, intel, and foreign policy. Inescapable.

Posted by: whig at July 22, 2025 02:24 PM (ctrM5)

426 I never had sex with a retard.
Posted by: BJ Bill Clinton at July 22, 2025 02:23 PM (ynpvh)

Press X to Doubt

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 22, 2025 02:24 PM (xcxpd)

427 411 I'm getting the distinct impression that Ozzy Osbourne has died. Not sure why...I thought I was on a thread about treason and shit.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at July 22, 2025 02:23 PM (KQmzo)

Well his brain died at least 30 years ago.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2025 02:24 PM (uWKK8)

428 Saw a Stossel interview with James Lindsay.

Lindsay said that a number of his friends created blank accounts on X and followed one guy Elon Musk. And their feed became flooded with "ultra-right" posts.

Forgetting that there has been a theme of unflushed libs who want to control Twitter/X from inside. Thus what Lindsay may have seen is that the sleepers in X want people to see a "rise of the ultra-right", so they can readily associate the right with fascism.

Where the "right" is nothing but opposition to Marxism and its variants.

It's what the progs for years tried to foster with the F-Factor, which was based on manipulated--even flipped--data. It's important for the progress of progressives that they scare people into thinking that if you vote conservative you're voting for something akin to Nazism.

Posted by: Axeman at July 22, 2025 02:24 PM (krQz2)

429
There's a supposedly fake resignation letter from Powell floating around.

I don't think he's resigned.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 22, 2025 02:24 PM (GBKbO)

Bummer

Posted by: It's me donna at July 22, 2025 02:24 PM (VE6XX)

430 ... and if the real intelligence had been in the PBD ...

-------------

The Presidential Briefs of Donald?

/

Posted by: ShainS -- Make Alligator Alcatraz the Gulf of Gator Gitmo! at July 22, 2025 02:24 PM (z/usA)

431 Wait- Ozzy Osbourne was really Jerome Powell?

Posted by: Marcus T at July 22, 2025 02:25 PM (hMp8v)

432
Her "explanations" to the contrary were so stupid and easily disproved that they should have embarrassed her. But her AWFL supporters in academia and journalism lapped them up!
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

=============

By the way, I say "AWFL supporters" because it was almost all women she interviewed with after she lost. I'm sure her male supporters were equally suckered.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 22, 2025 02:25 PM (HL/Ld)

433 Ozzy Osborne, RIP

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 22, 2025 02:25 PM (a1415)

434 Spike wasn't supposed to be popular, it seems. He was supposed to be a guy with six episodes and then gone. When he became popular it apparently pissed Whedon off because his (imo rather pretentious) vision was that the vampires were a metaphor for the troubles we all face and the show was about overcoming those troubles.

Whedon could fuck up a wet dream. I wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire after what he did to Firefly.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 22, 2025 02:25 PM (ndc+z)

435 390 "Now HOW is Keith Richards still around????

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards"

Keith Richards will outlive the current pop/rock stars
Posted by: Ripley at July 22, 2025 02:21 PM (GUOwU)

I honestly hope so
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 22, 2025 02:21 PM (xcxpd)

Keith Richards (b. 12-18-1943) is going to have to outdo Mike Love (b. 3-15-1941). Both are still performing.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 22, 2025 02:25 PM (wVcYX)

436 412 Schwarzenegger told Letterman his name means "black plowman".

I'll leave it to you to figure out which part of his name means plowman.

Posted by: eleven at July 22, 2025 02:23 PM (fV+MH)

Scwartzen is black (adjective). and Egger is a plowman.

Posted by: BJ Bill Clinton at July 22, 2025 02:25 PM (ynpvh)

437 Last stop on this crazy train.

Posted by: Hell at July 22, 2025 02:25 PM (/U5Yz)

438 Will Sharon have him Stuffed and then wheel out his body for Concerts??
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 22, 2025 02:23 PM (FCrpy)

No, but she will keep him in her living room.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2025 02:25 PM (uWKK8)

439 “Lord Haw Haw” wasn’t even a British subject, but the UK hanged him.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 22, 2025 02:26 PM (L0rDs)

440 He was Running Out of Time.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 22, 2025 02:23 PM (i24o9)

He was indeed the Master of Puppets.

Posted by: ... at July 22, 2025 02:26 PM (9/ad+)

441 off sticky sock.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 22, 2025 02:26 PM (ynpvh)

442 Leftover from the last thread but pertinent here:
Treason is defined in the U.S. Constitution as either levying war against the United States or adhering to its enemies by giving them aid and comfort. A person can only be convicted of treason based on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act or a confession in open court.

An argument can be made that it is impossible to convict anyone of treason because the USA is not at war with anybody: Congress has not declared war since the beginning of World War II. If we are not at war with anyone, how can we prove in court that they are waging war against us, and who are these enemies that could be aided in the light of Congress’s inaction? Fat chance getting two witnesses of the same overt act or a Perry Mason-style confession in court!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 22, 2025 02:26 PM (075ei)

443 Ozzy Osbourne has died,
I was supposed to see him my wife got the VIP package for my Birthday and Covid hit and I never got to see him
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 22, 2025 02:14 PM (FCrpy)

He's been standing at death's door for the last twenty years and it finally opened.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 22, 2025 02:19 PM (g8Ew

Ozzy: Sharon, where's my Polydent, I can't find it.

Sharon: DON'T OPEN THAT DOOR!!!!

Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2025 02:26 PM (rG5we)

444 Strange, the obviously true things that one would have to be willfully blind to miss, turn out to be (obviously) true.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at July 22, 2025 02:26 PM (hlNLQ)

445 Well his brain died at least 30 years ago.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2025 02:24 PM (uWKK

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So, before he tried to strangle his wife to death...

May God have mercy on him.

Posted by: Axeman at July 22, 2025 02:26 PM (krQz2)

446 John O. Brennan is a piece of shit.

How this man ever got to the higher levels of the federal government is all you need to know that the federal government is a big pile of shit.

Posted by: Shit And Shinola at July 22, 2025 02:26 PM (rqga2)

447 How Ozzy survived this long is the amazing thing

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2025 02:22 PM (+qU29)

He finally went off the rails on the crazy train. Now he's flying high again.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 22, 2025 02:26 PM (i24o9)

448 Judge me, O God, and plead my cause against an ungodly nation: O deliver me from the deceitful and unjust man.

Posted by: Lord Comey at July 22, 2025 02:27 PM (/gTjv)

449 Audit Ozzy Osbourne!

Posted by: Mark1971 at July 22, 2025 02:27 PM (CNl8/)

450 Schwarzenegger told Letterman his name means "black plowman".

So... his mom fucked the gardener?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 22, 2025 02:27 PM (ExV1e)

451 I liked Ozzie

Posted by: It's me donna at July 22, 2025 02:27 PM (VE6XX)

452 What a Bombshell!

I think the Walls Are Starting to Close In on Obama and Brennan…

It could be The Beginning of the End for the Dems.

Posted by: FOMSG at July 22, 2025 02:27 PM (/oh88)

453 Hard to believe, but, I think Sharon is possibly even nuttier than the late Ozzie. Though, it's possible she caught it from him.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 22, 2025 02:27 PM (tT6L1)

454 I liked Ozzie
Posted by: It's me donna at July 22, 2025 02:27 PM (VE6XX)

So did Harriet.

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 22, 2025 02:28 PM (MGB5H)

455 He was Running Out of Time.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 22, 2025 02:23 PM (i24o9)

He was indeed the Master of Puppets.

Posted by: ... at July 22, 2025 02:26 PM (9/ad+)

He found out for whom the bell tolls.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 22, 2025 02:28 PM (i24o9)

456 Went to Ozzfest back in 2004.

Ozzy was up there, doing his little old man moves. I told my BiL that next year's Ozzfest would likely be in memoriam.

Was only off by 20+ years.

Quite the ride. Crazy Train still one of my favorites of all time, but mostly due to Randy.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 22, 2025 02:28 PM (KbCG3)

457 Also learned that Marsters had to bleach his hair every day, despite the guidelines of the product that said it would destroy your hair, because having roots showing on a tv show messes with continuity.

I read too much.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 22, 2025 02:21 PM (PzXaK)
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I've seen a couple of interviews with Marstens. He seemed pretty down to earth.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 22, 2025 02:28 PM (tT6L1)

458 The feminine George Floyd for 2025. Well, I don't think she was a drugged up lout ( although not exactly an AA version of Rebecca of SunnyBrook Farms) and she was younger, but she died in police custody. The police say she committed suicide while in police custody. Her family wants answers . I don't blame them. Unfortunately racist rabble rouser Ben Crump will be dealing with this case:

https://tinyurl.com/3h6j99n4

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 22, 2025 01:52 PM (2GCMq)

One of the bedrock principles of thug life is thug death.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 22, 2025 02:28 PM (ARwJH)

459 Had tickets to see Ozzy twice while stationed at Meade. He canceled both times. I figured it wasn't meant to be and never tried again. Ragerts. I haz them.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at July 22, 2025 02:29 PM (+B0xk)

460 Whedon could fuck up a wet dream. I wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire after what he did to Firefly.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 22, 2025 02:25 PM (ndc+z)

The network canceled it, you can't blame Whedon for canceling the show.

Unless you mean the movie, which I thought was very good.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2025 02:29 PM (rG5we)

461 An argument can be made that it is impossible to convict anyone of treason because the USA is not at war with anybody: Congress has not declared war since the beginning of World War II. If we are not at war with anyone, how can we prove in court that they are waging war against us, and who are these enemies that could be aided in the light of Congress’s inaction? Fat chance getting two witnesses of the same overt act or a Perry Mason-style confession in court!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 22, 2025 02:26 PM (075ei)
---
Right. Without those defining circumstances we just get the slimy squirming of people like Schiff. "Well, Russia is *kinda* an enemy." (Ignoring that we are officially allies since I think Clinton.) "It's an enemy to the extent (we can allege) that it tried to harm us."

Posted by: Axeman at July 22, 2025 02:29 PM (krQz2)

462 I saw Ozzie back when. Great concert.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 22, 2025 02:29 PM (tT6L1)

463 153 Nobody cares about the Druze massacre because the Jews aren't doing it.
Posted by: torabora at July 22, 2025 01:46 PM (G0jjl)

I sadly agree.
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 22, 2025 01:54 PM (77W69)

Actually, Israel is rescuing some of the Druze in Syria.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 22, 2025 02:30 PM (ARwJH)

464 Yeah the lady tweeted it, then deleted it

Posted by: Don Black at July 22, 2025 02:30 PM (AOsQT)

465
Unless you mean the movie, which I thought was very good.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2025 02:29 PM (rG5we)

See this is the kind of shit that gets you in trouble.

Posted by: ... at July 22, 2025 02:30 PM (9/ad+)

466 susurrus

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh!
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Isn't that the three-headed dog who guards Hades?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 22, 2025 02:30 PM (XZ5S6)

467 RIP Ozzy.

Saw him live at the Long Beach Auditorium years ago. Metallica was the opening act.

Posted by: Halfhand at July 22, 2025 02:31 PM (hOS8Z)

468 The network canceled it, you can't blame Whedon for canceling the show.

I believe that the network was also responsible for airing the episodes out of order.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 22, 2025 02:31 PM (ExV1e)

469 @290

>>Because--to date--not one person who aided or supported the Russian Hoax has stated that any part of the Steele Dossier was false.

Well, because, largely, the Steele Dossier is unfalsifiable and was just a recurssion tool to initiate the counter-intelligence investigation.

One of the main prongs of the operation was to utilize IC asset Carte Page in the six degrees of separation gambit to get FISA warrants.

Hey, you know what, we still don't have the unredacted FISA warrants.

Maybe we will get them now.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 22, 2025 02:31 PM (XV/Pl)

470 susurrus

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh!
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Isn't that the three-headed dog who guards Hades?
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 22, 2025 02:30 PM (XZ5S6)

No, it was a Phil Collins song.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 22, 2025 02:31 PM (wVcYX)

471 Isn't that the three-headed dog who guards Hades?
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 22, 2025 02:30 PM (XZ5S6)

No that's Pelosis

Posted by: ... at July 22, 2025 02:31 PM (9/ad+)

472 An argument can be made that it is impossible to convict anyone of treason because the USA is not at war with anybody: Congress has not declared war since the beginning of World War II. If we are not at war with anyone, how can we prove in court that they are waging war against us, and who are these enemies that could be aided in the light of Congress’s inaction? Fat chance getting two witnesses of the same overt act or a Perry Mason-style confession in court!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit

Please stop being pedantic. Treason is the overarching description of a whole host of activities subsumed under their technical legalese. One of the reasons for this legalese is because of Supreme Court precedents which stem from Justice Marshall conducting the trial of Aaron Burr as circuit judge and then sitting as CJ when Ex Parte Bollman arrived dealing with Burr's compatriots.

Under the Brits, Treason traditionally included the subtypes of sedition, espionage/spying, and actually levying arms etc. against the crown. The US Framers sought to narrow that legal description in teh US Constitution which resulted in the separation of sedition including seditious libel and later espionage

Posted by: whig at July 22, 2025 02:31 PM (ctrM5)

473 Lord Haw Haw” wasn’t even a British subject, but the UK hanged him.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 22, 2025 02:26 PM (L0rDs)

The most properly spoken English I ever heard was from a German army reserve captain.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2025 02:32 PM (rG5we)

474 I asked the idiot today if Epstein wrote the filesin cursive.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 22, 2025 02:32 PM (TEi+a)

475 There exist graphic-novel sequels to Serenity which aren't great.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 22, 2025 02:32 PM (gKWVE)

476
Isn't that the three-headed dog who guards Hades?
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea[/i_2

You're thinking of Cerebellum, m'lord.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 22, 2025 02:32 PM (xG4kz)

477 "No More Tears" Crank it LOUD, you pussies!!
youtube.com/watch?v=mX_8p7NaibQ

Posted by: For gp, The Action IS The Juice at July 22, 2025 02:32 PM (kRXt7)

478 nood

Posted by: For gp, The Action IS The Juice at July 22, 2025 02:32 PM (kRXt7)

479 Scwartzen is black (adjective). and Egger is a plowman.
Posted by: BJ Bill Clinton at July 22, 2025 02:25 PM (ynpvh)

Glad you explained it.

I thought fir a second the Austrians were going around calling every black farmer they met a Schwartze Negger.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 22, 2025 02:33 PM (6ydKt)

480 Ozzy defined rock and roll excess and lived to tell. RIP

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 22, 2025 02:33 PM (Cdp18)

481
Wait-wait-wait. So y'all are saying that ozzy resigned and then Gene Hackman died with a bat?

Posted by: Guy that's always confused at July 22, 2025 02:33 PM (EFZgU)

482 This is how I went deaf in the right ear.

Posted by: For gp, The Action IS The Juice at July 22, 2025 02:34 PM (kRXt7)

483
Wow, that closer wasn't even close to being right.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 22, 2025 02:34 PM (xG4kz)

484 "I would have seen it," Flynn says now. "I was reading the PDBs at that point." Asked yesterday if he thought that might have been a reason for holding the planned draft, Flynn said, "Very likely."

... this explains why Comey went after Gen Flynn

Posted by: SMOD at July 22, 2025 02:34 PM (RHGPo)

485 Ozzy dead

Posted by: Javems at July 22, 2025 02:34 PM (8I4hW)

486 Posted by: whig at July 22, 2025 02:31 PM (ctrM5)
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I would otherwise defer to your expertise on this subject, but it's also expressly limited in the Constitution itself.

I think that express limitation plays a role.

However, it's not too pedantic, if people engage in the idea of *hanging* for colloquial "treason".

Posted by: Axeman at July 22, 2025 02:35 PM (krQz2)

487 Unless you mean the movie, which I thought was very good.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2025 02:29 PM (rG5we)

See this is the kind of shit that gets you in trouble.
Posted by: ... at July 22, 2025 02:30 PM (9/ad+)

*Looks up Serenity, the movie... was released by Universal Pictures*

Wait a minute, I just realized, you work for Paramount!

Glowie! Glowie!!

Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2025 02:35 PM (6bj4g)

488 We now have in the US code, a whole host of laws that address "Treason" including the Espionage Act of 1917 which has the death penalty btw. Sedition is another example of where the US code includes that charge.

And that, in part, is because the Framers and the Supreme Court early on put a narrow definition upon treason in the US. And without a 'king', matters that would be considered treason such as acting against the king no longer held legal meaning. Acting against the existing government is a lot harder to separate loyal opposition from intending to legally subvert the government and its laws to the extent of permanent power.

And that is forever one of the problems of elected representative government.

Posted by: whig at July 22, 2025 02:37 PM (ctrM5)

489 You say pedantic; I say prove it in court!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 22, 2025 02:37 PM (075ei)

490 I remember following all this at the time and having the sense that it didn't add up, something was rotten in Denmark. Everyone said I was crazy. Yesterday's "Conspiracy Theory" is tomorrow's news ....

Posted by: Greybeard Represent at July 22, 2025 02:38 PM (jgRaQ)

491 Treason is problematic, so is sedition as it talks of "force".

18 U.S. Code § 2383 - Rebellion or insurrection

Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

Posted by: SMOD at July 22, 2025 02:40 PM (RHGPo)

492 I think that express limitation plays a role.

However, it's not too pedantic, if people engage in the idea of *hanging* for colloquial "treason".
Posted by: Axeman
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Enemies, etc. are not defined in the act nor is levying war. In part, Burr's defense was that raising an army and going against the Spanish was NOT treason because he argued it was NOT against the US but US foreign policy.

The two person rule is one such which dates from ancient Israel.

Aid and comfort created two separate diametrically opposed Scotus decisions in the WWII era--Haupt and Cramer.

Annnotated guide has this to say, " The difficulties created by Burr, however, have been largely obviated by punishing acts ordinarily treasonable in nature under a different label, within a formula . . .in Bollman. The court held, "Crimes so atrocious as those which have for their object the subversion by violence of those laws and those institutions which have been ordained in order to secure the peace and happiness of society, are not to escape punishment, because they have not ripened to treason."

Posted by: whig at July 22, 2025 02:43 PM (ctrM5)

493 Posted by: Marcus T at July 22, 2025 02:16 PM (hMp8v)

I'd settle for the JEF and Big Mike being outed as gay, America hating traitors and exiled with all their money and property confiscated and seeing Hillary hung for treason for Benghazi and the loss of Extortion 17. Toss in Pennetta and Biden just for good measure.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 22, 2025 02:43 PM (3Ope8)

494 5 U.S.C. 7311 which explicitly makes it a federal criminal offense (and a violation of oath of office) for anyone employed in the United States Government (including members of Congress) to “advocate the overthrow of our constitutional form of government ”.

Posted by: SMOD at July 22, 2025 02:45 PM (RHGPo)

495 the 3 headed dog is Cerberus

Posted by: Don Black at July 22, 2025 02:45 PM (AOsQT)

496 Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
Posted by: SMOD
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Force can be read broadly or narrowly in that particular case including for example using armed FBI agents under orders to kill if resisted in collecting evidence in order to obstruct. But there are plenty of other laws that deal specifically with misconduct including Reconstruction era Civil Rights statutes.

Posted by: whig at July 22, 2025 02:46 PM (ctrM5)

497 RIP Ozzy!
https://www.youtube.com/
watch?v=EdM3RfH-zFo&list=RDEdM3RfH-zFo&start_radio=1

And I was there for this performance. He came out in a witch doctor outfit.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 22, 2025 02:48 PM (fGmWu)

498 All well and good, but the too online "Right" would like to please focus on the Epstein list which is what really matters, not the biggest political outrage in the history of our country.

Posted by: Little Larry Sellers at July 22, 2025 03:00 PM (xaNfJ)

499 Came across a piece in my files from The Guardian that was posted Saturday 10 December 2016 09.47 EST titled, "CIA concludes Russia interfered to help Trump win election, say reports." Even they, however, in this early piece quote the WP and NYT.

Quickest turnaround since the Dem-Left went from praising Hitler to hating him overnight June 22nd 1941.

Posted by: geoffb at July 22, 2025 03:04 PM (r//c2)

500 Ace: This response is NOT directed at you or anyone here, just a general response and comment; I need to voice myself because I am 29...

We knew this shit in 2018/19 and consider ALL.THE. SAME. ENTITIES. are still in power now 'controlling the narratives'.

Disgusting.

"Den of Thieves", "Sodom on Potomac", et al.

Assholes. All of them starting with Bitch McConnell.

Posted by: Danimal28 at July 22, 2025 05:15 PM (mNOhh)

501 If Putin didn't know HRC was an evil clown before she claimed that "Vladimir Putin himself directed the covert cyberattacks against our electoral system," he certainly found out then.

Posted by: Al in St. Louis at July 22, 2025 05:28 PM (pKne7)

502 Now, in Comey's defense, he didn't think a case could be brought against Hillary Clinton because he didn't actually think she was human.

Posted by: VirginiaSmoker at July 23, 2025 02:25 AM (YC7Ue)

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