WSJ Releases Some Kind of "Birthday Book" For Jeffrey Epstein, With A Strange Drawing and Dialogue Supposedly Written by Trump<br>Trump Denies, Announces He's Suing the WSJ, NewsCorp, and Rupert Murdoch

WSJ Releases Some Kind of "Birthday Book" For Jeffrey Epstein, With A Strange Drawing and Dialogue Supposedly Written by Trump
Trump Denies, Announces He's Suing the WSJ, NewsCorp, and Rupert Murdoch

The Journal claims to have seen pages from a birthday album compiled by Ghislaine Maxwell in 2003—three years before Epstein was first arrested and long before any criminal allegations became public. The album allegedly contains letters from various wealthy individuals who moved in Epstein's social circles.
According to the Journal, one page contains Trump's signature on what they describe as a "bawdy" note with crude drawings. Trump categorically denies writing it.
...
Here's what the Journal doesn't tell you: They provide no evidence that this letter was authenticated. No handwriting analysis. No chain of custody documentation. No forensic verification. Just their word that they "reviewed" it among Justice Department documents.
The paper admits they don't know "how the letter with Trump's signature was prepared," yet they're comfortable plastering it across their front page anyway. If you can't verify authenticity, why publish it at all?

It didn't stop them from running with Hillary Clinton's fabricated "dossier" now did it?

Yashar Ali
@yashar
BREAKING
The Wall Street Journal has reviewed a book put together for Jeffrey Epstein’s 50th birthday, as part of that book a letter was submitted by Donald Trump.
Trump's letter features a drawing of a naked woman and this text which imagines a conversation between Trump and Epstein.

Uh-huh.

The letter bearing Trump's name, which was reviewed by the Journal, is bawdy--like others in the album. It contains several lines of typewritten text framed by the outline of a naked woman, which appears to be hand-drawn with a heavy marker. A pair of small arcs denotes the woman's breasts, and the future president's signature is a squiggly "Donald" below her waist, mimicking pubic hair.
The letter concludes: "Happy Birthday -- and may every day be another wonderful secret."
In an interview with the Journal on Tuesday evening, Trump denied writing the letter or drawing the picture. "This is not me. This is a fake thing. It's a fake Wall Street Journal story," he said.

"I never wrote a picture in my life. I don't draw pictures of women," he said. "It's not my language. It's not my words."
He told the Journal he was preparing to file a lawsuit if it published an article. "I'm gonna sue The Wall Street Journal just like I sued everyone else," he said.

So if Jeffrey Epstein has a piece of art allegedly from a bigwig, that bigwig necessarily participated in it?

So Bill Clinton posed in drag for this painting on Epstein's Pedo Island, huh?

Trump posted this on Truth Social:

The Wall Street Journal, and Rupert Murdoch, personally, were warned directly by President Donald J. Trump that the supposed letter they printed by President Trump to Epstein was a FAKE and, if they print it, they will be sued. Mr. Murdoch stated that he would take care of it but, obviously, did not have the power to do so. The Editor of The Wall Street Journal, Emma Tucker, was told directly by Karoline Leavitt, and by President Trump, that the letter was a FAKE, but Emma Tucker didn't want to hear that. Instead, they are going with a false, malicious, and defamatory story anyway.
President Trump will be suing The Wall Street Journal, NewsCorp, and Mr. Murdoch, shortly. The Press has to learn to be truthful, and not rely on sources that probably don't even exist. President Trump has already beaten George Stephanopoulos/ABC, 60 Minutes/CBS, and others, and looks forward to suing and holding accountable the once great Wall Street Journal. It has truly turned out to be a 'Disgusting and Filthy Rag' and, writing defamatory lies like this, shows their desperation to remain relevant.
If there were any truth at all on the Epstein Hoax, as it pertains to President Trump, this information would have been revealed by Comey, Brennan, Crooked Hillary, and other Radical Left Lunatics years ago. It certainly would not have sat in a file waiting for 'TRUMP' to have won three Elections. This is yet another example of FAKE NEWS!

People point out that this seems to be before Jeffrey Epstein was arrested, but that is hardly conclusive. No one can deny they knew of Epstein's reputation after his arrest. (So why did Matt Lauer and Katie Couric visit him post-arrest?)

But people also knew he was into shady stuff before the arrest. Trump can deny that he knew about Epstein, but it's not like no one knew until the arrest.

It is now impossible for Trump to contain this just by Jedi Mind Tricking MAGA that "these aren't the files you're looking for."

The media sharks have brushed against Trump and drawn a trickle of blood; they are about to go into a frenzy. It is impossible to stop them, so they only good response is just to release it all and let God separate the wicked from the innocent.

I am now a bit more suspicious that James Comey's wretched daughter, who prosecuted Epstein and then Ghislaine Maxwell, might have leaked this to a friendly media source to get a special counsel appointed. Like father, like daughter.

A contrary view:

The WSJ presenting their "Trump-toppling" Epstein story 😂 pic.twitter.com/1Jhbo8bJDL
— drefanzor memes (@drefanzor) July 17, 2025

Posted by: Ace at 12:06 PM

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1 MAGA is over!

Posted by: ... at July 18, 2025 12:06 PM (Qr870)

2 Even if Trump did send it, it seems innocent to me. When did 'bawdy' become illegal?

Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake On Tea at July 18, 2025 12:08 PM (J4/Z5)

3 The Roy Moore yearbook smear tactic tarted up like a loli.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 18, 2025 12:09 PM (gWRQ1)

4 Wait who appoints the counsel? Bondi? If she does that........

Posted by: ... at July 18, 2025 12:09 PM (Qr870)

5 Trump ist kaput.

Posted by: Major Dusseldorf at July 18, 2025 12:09 PM (jc0TO)

6 Zzzzzzzz

Posted by: Jeff Sessions at July 18, 2025 12:09 PM (Qr870)

7 Let's just say he did send it for Epstein's 50th b-day .. So.? And no I don't think he personally sent it...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 18, 2025 12:10 PM (VE6XX)

8 Hi Ace

This one even more stupid than Smollet.
Trump's ratings up today over 50%. It's almost like it helped him😏

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 18, 2025 12:10 PM (t/2Uw)

9 I heard nude Ace.

What's up.

Posted by: eleven at July 18, 2025 12:10 PM (fV+MH)

10 I hope Trump didn't boof somebody because that would really be it.

Posted by: ... at July 18, 2025 12:10 PM (Qr870)

11 One of the most interesting aspects of this CF is that Murdoch apparently couldn't stop them from running the "story". I'd have assumed he was too smart to let them run it, so I guess that means he's either lying about trying to stop it, or his power has slipped away, and the frothing loons now do what they want.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 18, 2025 12:10 PM (Riz8t)

12 I haven't read the WSJ story and don't plan to do so, if the jist of the story is that Trump sent a "bawdy" letter to Epstein along with dozens of others for Epstein's 50th BDay, this happened 16 years ago and has gone unremarked up until now.

Obviously a hit job.

But having said that, the administration needs to clean up the mess they've made of the Epstein Saga.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 18, 2025 12:10 PM (XV/Pl)

13 "Trump's letter features a drawing of a naked woman"

So what? Is that beyond the pale now?

Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake On Tea at July 18, 2025 12:10 PM (J4/Z5)

14 @nataliegwinters
·
2h
Wow, the @WSJ reporter behind the Trump-Epstein story was conveniently behind bogus Stormy Daniels reporting too.

He was credited for “helping set in motion the first criminal prosecution of a former president” by
@NYMag.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2025 12:10 PM (viF8m)

15 The idea that there is some damaging document on Trump from 2003 that hasn't been made public yet is ridiculous - if it existed, it certainly would have been leaked during Trump's campaign against Hillary, as the 2005 Access Hollywood tape was.

Posted by: Alaska Public Radio! at July 18, 2025 12:11 PM (CZVKQ)

16 That doesn't sound even remotely like Trump.

It sound like bad Bill Kristol DJT Fan Fiction.

Posted by: ... at July 18, 2025 12:11 PM (Qr870)

17 Yeah, but what everyone's forgetting here is that Trump said the word "Pussy".

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at July 18, 2025 12:11 PM (P845J)

18 The letter is in cursive, so a handwriting expert should be able to tell immediately if the letter was written by Trump.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 18, 2025 12:11 PM (Riz8t)

19 10 I hope Trump didn't boof somebody because that would really be it.
Posted by: ... at July 18, 2025 12:10 PM (Qr870)

next you're gonna tell me he said Pussy...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 18, 2025 12:12 PM (VE6XX)

20 Mean tweet alert!

https://is.gd/maFan3

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Lying Dogface Pony Soldier at July 18, 2025 12:12 PM (L/fGl)

21 So this is the reason for Trump's odd behavior the other day about the Epstein Hoax. He must have known this was coming.

Odd that it drops on a Friday before a summer weekend. You'd think the WSJ would want to drop it for maximum effect.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 18, 2025 12:12 PM (iFTx/)

22 If this is the Kill Shot that the left was waiting for, it's not even a squib. I just don't see the scandal here.

Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake On Tea at July 18, 2025 12:12 PM (J4/Z5)

23 Does this "letter" even exist?

Posted by: toby928 at July 18, 2025 12:13 PM (jc0TO)

24 Here's what the Journal doesn't tell you: They provide no evidence that this letter was authenticated. No handwriting analysis. No chain of custody documentation. No forensic verification. Just their word that they "reviewed" it among Justice Department documents.

———

Note the only thing released of the Epstein files is something damaging to Trump. Perfect Deep State MO.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 18, 2025 12:13 PM (Vh9CX)

25 That "typewritten note" was written by some beta fag intern at WSJ with the help of ChumpGTP . No adult human speaks or writes like that. Especially not Trump.

This is clearly a knowingly false hit piece. Trump should sue.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 18, 2025 12:13 PM (iFTx/)

26 So, as someone posted this morning.

1. If it's true, it's still a total nothing burger
2. If it's false, we should raze WSJ to the ground for running it

As for me, reading that text - Trump never wrote that. It's not the way he tells stories. The tell isn't actually the Trump text - it's "Trump's version of the Epstein response" text...he wouldn't have the guy as his equal denying him stuff - Epstein would have been asking Donald for his wisdom. Again, Trump thinks highly of himself and would have seen himself passing on this great wisdom...

Plus, drawing a naked woman is juvenile...again, beneath Trump, who would have wine, dined, and slept with the women, not drawn them like on Titanic...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 18, 2025 12:13 PM (tOcjL)

27
"we have things in common"

It's like it was written by a teenage girl. So, any leftard.

Posted by: ... at July 18, 2025 12:13 PM (Qr870)

28 This is clearly a knowingly false hit piece. Trump should sue.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 18, 2025 12:13 PM (iFTx/)

He said he is going to sue

Posted by: It's me donna at July 18, 2025 12:14 PM (VE6XX)

29 WSJ hacktivist to MidJourney - "realistic ink sketch of a beautiful zaftig young woman with a large chest, naked, with a playful look on beautiful face. It is signed "Donald Trump."

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 18, 2025 12:14 PM (gWRQ1)

30 Even if 100% true, I don't see the big deal .

But I don't think it's true unless Trump was forced to write that script by gunpoint. That's not how he talks.

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2025 12:14 PM (VofaG)

31 Yeah, this sounds like a forgery. Not in Trump's style, which is fairly well established after this many decades.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 18, 2025 12:14 PM (xcxpd)

32 This is so demented.
A naked stick figure?
The media will end up footing the entire bill for Trump’s presidential library through defamation lawsuits.

Posted by: Jmel at July 18, 2025 12:15 PM (bVhJi)

33 Posted by: It's me donna at July 18, 2025 12:12 PM (VE6XX)

My stars and garters!!!

Posted by: ... at July 18, 2025 12:15 PM (Qr870)

34 This is clearly a knowingly false hit piece. Trump should sue.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 18, 2025 12:13 PM (iFTx/)

He said he is going to sue

When he wins, and he will, he should give the WSJ to Elon as a peace offering.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 18, 2025 12:15 PM (Riz8t)

35 Well, my days of not taking the WSJ seriously are certainly coming to a middle.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher, phoning it in at July 18, 2025 12:15 PM (RGhMb)

36 Surely this, plus grand jury materials, will rewrite history the way the JFK and RFK file releases did.

Right?

Posted by: rhomboid at July 18, 2025 12:15 PM (1m82a)

37 I won't believe any of this unless Jussie Smollett confirms it.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at July 18, 2025 12:15 PM (P845J)

38 The signature has machine cut lines around it - like it's taken from a sticker (so some weird cut/paste) - in any case the sig at a minimum has been altered in some weird way

Posted by: Big Star at July 18, 2025 12:16 PM (Modkf)

39 "If you can't verify authenticity, why publish it at all?"

That is not who we are!

Posted by: The Media at July 18, 2025 12:16 PM (vFG9F)

40 I don't think Trump is a complete moron but dear lord does he benefit from having the stupidest opposition in human history.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 18, 2025 12:16 PM (KbCG3)

41 > @nataliegwinters
·
2h
Wow, the @WSJ reporter behind the Trump-Epstein story was conveniently behind bogus Stormy Daniels reporting too.

He was credited for “helping set in motion the first criminal prosecution of a former president”
------------
Hang the fucker until dead in a public square. Tonight.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 18, 2025 12:16 PM (Q4IgG)

42 This is when I find Trump to be the most frustrating

Had he just given maximum transparency all this, it would be a nothing burger. But he decided to put a spotlight on all this and make it very obvious there was something in those files he didn’t want people to see.

A dirty joke hardly makes Trump a pedophile but he’s now linked himself to this story in an
Embarrassing way.

Posted by: Maroon at July 18, 2025 12:16 PM (v2a8e)

43 I totally believe that this document is completely authentic.

Posted by: Dan Rather at July 18, 2025 12:16 PM (PiwSw)

44 It wasn't about the drawing. The letter suggests innuendo that Trump was involved in pedophilia. That is what the Left did this. Trying to again say that Trump is a rapist etc.
I want to know who gave the WSJ the letter. Or rather gave them the gist of it without actually providing the letter. They published this without even seeing the document.
Also saw a post where Trump's signature is actually outlined in white meaning it was transposed onto the letter.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 18, 2025 12:16 PM (t/2Uw)

45
The Walls are closing in Part 321,568

Posted by: Frank Barone at July 18, 2025 12:16 PM (IifOV)

46 The walls are truly closing in.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 18, 2025 12:16 PM (mlg/3)

47 Check the kerning..

Posted by: toby928 at July 18, 2025 12:17 PM (jc0TO)

48 That's not Bill Clinton in that painting, that's his bawdy double.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2025 12:17 PM (vFG9F)

49 "realistic ink sketch of a beautiful zaftig young woman with a large
chest, naked, with a playful look on beautiful face."

Just not seeing anything wrong with that. Since when is it a sin to draw a nude?

Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake On Tea at July 18, 2025 12:17 PM (J4/Z5)

50 WSJ hacktivist to MidJourney - "realistic ink sketch of a beautiful zaftig young woman with a large chest, naked, with a playful look on beautiful face. It is signed "Donald Trump."

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 18, 2025 12:14 PM (gWRQ1)

It's not authentic unless he used the word pussy.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at July 18, 2025 12:17 PM (P845J)

51 49 "realistic ink sketch of a beautiful zaftig young woman with a large
chest, naked, with a playful look on beautiful face."

Just not seeing anything wrong with that. Since when is it a sin to draw a nude?

Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake On Tea at July 18, 2025 12:17 PM (J4/Z5)

Have they seen CBD's morning art thread?

Posted by: Nova Local at July 18, 2025 12:17 PM (tOcjL)

52 Since when is it a sin to draw a nude?

Depends on the context and skill level.

Posted by: Naked guy on an ottoman at July 18, 2025 12:18 PM (Riz8t)

53 "The letter suggests innuendo that Trump was involved in pedophilia."

I don't see how.

Posted by: Can't Make gp's Shimmy Shake On Tea at July 18, 2025 12:18 PM (J4/Z5)

54 This gayer and less believable than hookers peeing on a bed.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 18, 2025 12:18 PM (9yZF5)

55 I am now a bit more suspicious that James Comey's wretched daughter, who prosecuted Epstein and then Ghislaine Maxwell, might have leaked this to a friendly media source to get a special counsel appointed. Like father, like daughter.
-----------

Wasn't she canned just a few days ago. The deep state is really deep. Trump can't fire enough of the "blob".

Posted by: WisRich at July 18, 2025 12:18 PM (G0vdT)

56 I've been watching the sitcom Just Shoot Me on Roku. There is a running gag of a competition between the rich owner of Blush magazine, Jack Gallo and Donald Trump. Funnier today for obvious reasons than it originally was .

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2025 12:18 PM (VofaG)

57 So somebody gets an autograph. Draws a picture and types up a dialog and that turns into Trump is a dirty picture drawer?

Stoopid, irrational, hysterical women, will be the downfall of this country. And yes I am including Corey Booker in that group.

Posted by: FFS is there to be no end to the hysteria at July 18, 2025 12:18 PM (+Ez5U)

58 Jeeze

@TheKevinDalton 2m
At least 3 dead in apparent explosion at Los Angeles Sheriff Department, SEB compound in Monterey Park California, which houses the sheriff's department's special enforcement units and bomb squad.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 18, 2025 12:19 PM (mlg/3)

59 So Bill Clinton posed in drag for this painting on Epstein's Pedo Island, huh?
......

Sexy, right, 'ettes?

Posted by: wth at July 18, 2025 12:19 PM (v0R5T)

60 Once again, the hair on fire brigade told us.. "This is the end of Trump. His presidency is over! MAGA is turning on him because of this!!!!!"

Yeh, about that..... Shut the fuck up.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 18, 2025 12:19 PM (2J/Lj)

61 55 I am now a bit more suspicious that James Comey's wretched daughter, who prosecuted Epstein and then Ghislaine Maxwell, might have leaked this to a friendly media source to get a special counsel appointed. Like father, like daughter.
----

Special counsel to investigate what ? A "bawdy" letter to a man on his 5oth B-Day ? The horror !

Posted by: It's me donna at July 18, 2025 12:19 PM (VE6XX)

62 As for why Trump is now all over this - this will now take away the disappointment from the Epstein release today...which will again be some files of nothingness b/c there is nothing there anymore.

WSJ did him a favor - he's gonna talk about the media witch hunt while he's signing the recission bill saying look what the left will do just to save 1 media dollar. Trump is gonna make this huge b/c he knows it's fake and he knows we know it's fake...so it can't hurt him and can just be cover for him for things that might disappoint...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 18, 2025 12:20 PM (tOcjL)

63 So somebody gets an autograph. Draws a picture and types up a dialog and that turns into Trump is a dirty picture drawer?

Stoopid, irrational, hysterical women, will be the downfall of this country. And yes I am including Corey Booker in that group.

Hiz gilty. I now it.

Posted by: Randi Weingarten at July 18, 2025 12:20 PM (Riz8t)

64 The one thing about people who have been in the spotlight for 20 years and want to run for president who are secretly pedophiles is they love to admit it in writing!

Happens every time!!

Posted by: ... at July 18, 2025 12:20 PM (Qr870)

65 58 Jeeze

@TheKevinDalton 2m
At least 3 dead in apparent explosion at Los Angeles Sheriff Department, SEB compound in Monterey Park California, which houses the sheriff's department's special enforcement units and bomb squad.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 18, 2025 12:19 PM (mlg/3)

They immediately said it was an accident...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 18, 2025 12:20 PM (VE6XX)

66 Fake means nothing to a democrat party starved for a win. My liberal mother still believes Trump rented out a hotel room to record prostitutes peeing on the bed that Obama slept in.

Posted by: red speck at July 18, 2025 12:20 PM (0Id0S)

67 If before he tossed Epstein out of Mar el Lago it's possible that Trump could have participated in some note writing game;
However, that note would never have been written by Donald J. Trump.
Butch didn't write that note, bitch did.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2025 12:20 PM (vV6Uu)

68 Hey "Short Eyes" best bud Epstein!
How about you getting us some "cheese pizza" ?
Maybe we can dress in blue and get us brownies to eat?
You know, hehe...
-best buds, donnie

Posted by: Operator Error at July 18, 2025 12:20 PM (41lmx)

69 Imma gonna enjoy seeing the responses from all the moral scolds strutting around on their high horses for the last week, huffing about how "you just don't care about children being sexually exploited--I do!" and other stupid shit when the rest of us were saying "this is an op, the Dems are pushing it to hurt Trump and no matter what comes out, they'll use it against Trump."

Buh, buh, buh!! Won't somebody think of the children!

And here we are: A Fusion GPS connected reporter spinning up a laughable hit piece against Trump.
Just like we warned.

And not one, not one single reporter is even hinting at going after any of the hundreds of Dems involved.
Just like we warned.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 18, 2025 12:21 PM (uEVfM)

70 Wonder if someone will find out the typewriter font was a computer font created after 2003...

Posted by: robotdevil at July 18, 2025 12:21 PM (/jzUK)

71 Someone set up the LAPD the bomb?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 18, 2025 12:21 PM (gWRQ1)

72 Speaking of zaftig.

People have been making fun of Jennifer Love Hewitt lately for gaining weight. I just saw the video yesterday and she looks pretty damn fine to me.

Posted by: eleven at July 18, 2025 12:21 PM (fV+MH)

73 That's retahded. Really retahded.

Posted by: Bunch of stunted 7th grade girls they are at July 18, 2025 12:21 PM (TbWk/)

74 Conservatives: "Unbelievable! Laughable!"

Democrats: "E Jean Carroll is a hero!"

Posted by: red speck at July 18, 2025 12:21 PM (0Id0S)

75 Am I just not seeing it or is there no image of this page shown? Would you run such an article if you didn't have the actual letter in your hand?

Posted by: toby928 at July 18, 2025 12:21 PM (jc0TO)

76 Sidebar …

Canuck guinea Aldo Nova. Dressed in a spandex leopard-print catsuit! And gold cowboy boots! Singing with a stupid grin about prostitutes, coke dealers, and trannies! While prancing around on stage like he’s looking for a prison shower with a bar of soap!

Ah, the 1980s.

Nova later made piles of money writing for and producing major commercial acts like Celine Dion. He’s still playing today. Older, fatter, and not wearing a leopard print onsie anymore. But still out there playing!

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 18, 2025 12:22 PM (iFTx/)

77 "Just their word that they "reviewed" it among Justice Department documents."

Yeah, Trump knew the guy, but this seems so "we needed a hook" to publish bullshit. None of that seems like Trump to me either. But that won't stop 3 years of press coverage.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 18, 2025 12:22 PM (rvwwT)

78 It’s been established in a court of law that The Donald only gets his tricks by molesting ugly middle aged women in department store dressing rooms.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 18, 2025 12:22 PM (Vh9CX)

79 Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 18, 2025 12:16 PM (t/2Uw)

That dog won't hunt.

Just like their description of Kavanaugh's alleged actions doesn't support their attempt at portraying an attempted rape.

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2025 12:22 PM (VofaG)

80 41 > @nataliegwinters
·
2h
Wow, the @WSJ reporter behind the Trump-Epstein story was conveniently behind bogus Stormy Daniels reporting too.

He was credited for “helping set in motion the first criminal prosecution of a former president”
------------
Hang the fucker until dead in a public square. Tonight.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 18, 2025 12:16 PM (Q4IgG)

Not until after a group of hard-ass Marines beat the shit out of him until his arms and legs have been shattered into dust.

THEN hang him.

Posted by: XTC at July 18, 2025 12:22 PM (UnA8+)

81 So we've gone straight from "The only people who care about Epstein are anti-Semites" to "Release the files! Let the chips fall where they may?"
Posted by: This is odd, what happened? at July 18, 2025 12:21 PM

It's always both and neither, Joe. It just depends on who you hear.

Posted by: toby928 at July 18, 2025 12:22 PM (jc0TO)

82 I’m going to treat this bombshell the same way the media treated the creepy Podesta emails about cheese pizza.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 18, 2025 12:23 PM (9yZF5)

83 Fake means nothing to a democrat party starved for a win. My liberal mother still believes Trump rented out a hotel room to record prostitutes peeing on the bed that Obama slept in.
Posted by: red speck at July 18, 2025 12:20 PM (0Id0S)

Hate to break it to you but your mother's an idiot. Fortunately it's not genetic.

Posted by: People are dumb dangerous panicky animals at July 18, 2025 12:23 PM (TbWk/)

84 ***...compiled by Ghislaine Maxwell in 2003�three years before Epstein was first arrested and long before any criminal allegations became public.
---

Technically, chronologically, was this book created before or after Donald chunked Epstein out of Mar a Lago?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2025 12:23 PM (vV6Uu)

85 Someone should expose this WSJ hack to all the naughty art of Pompeii.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 18, 2025 12:23 PM (gWRQ1)

86
Dear Penthouse Forum....

Posted by: Donald Trump at July 18, 2025 12:23 PM (IifOV)

87 People have been making fun of Jennifer Love Hewitt lately for gaining weight. I just saw the video yesterday and she looks pretty damn fine to me.

Posted by: eleven at July 18, 2025 12:21 PM (fV+MH)

She's on the edge. She needs to stay on this side of it

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2025 12:24 PM (VofaG)

88 just saw the video yesterday and she looks pretty damn fine to me.

Brian Denehy in drag.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 18, 2025 12:24 PM (OvtP6)

89 LA sheriffs are the biggest assholes on the planet apropos of nothing I assure you.

Posted by: eleven at July 18, 2025 12:24 PM (fV+MH)

90 Rake, meet face...

Trump must be the luckiest SOB to have such stupid "enemies"

Posted by: man at July 18, 2025 12:25 PM (m5/ie)

91 Brian Denehy in drag.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 18, 2025 12:24 PM

It's a damn shame he was denied an Oscar for that role.

Posted by: toby928 at July 18, 2025 12:25 PM (jc0TO)

92 Posted by: Maroon at July 18, 2025 12:16 PM (v2a8e)

This is retarded sir.

Posted by: ... at July 18, 2025 12:25 PM (Qr870)

93 Enigmas never age. WTH does that even mean? Is it racist?

Posted by: Oglebay at July 18, 2025 12:26 PM (2ap+5)

94 I like the part where one of the reporters on this 'scoop' only previous experience before the WSJ was working for the wife of Mr Fusion GPS himself, Glenn Simpson. You know, the Glenn Simpson that phonied up the whole Russia dossier for the Hillary Clinton campaign.

Much integrity. Very journalism.

Posted by: William F. 'Buck' Dharma at July 18, 2025 12:26 PM (Ft5W9)

95 Speaking of zaftig.

People have been making fun of Jennifer Love Hewitt lately for gaining weight. I just saw the video yesterday and she looks pretty damn fine to me.

Posted by: eleven at July 18, 2025 12:21 PM (fV+MH)
_____

I don't think people are making fun of her weight. She now looks like a normal, attractive middle-aged woman. People are dunking on her because she went MeToo leftist and started screeching about hard it was for her 25 years ago to be paid millions of dollars for flashing her boobs at a time when guys wanted to see them. Yes, I'm sure it was very hard.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 18, 2025 12:26 PM (iFTx/)

96 Next hit piece?

A letter from Epstein's mom to Trump.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 18, 2025 12:26 PM (gWRQ1)

97 94 Enigmas never age. WTH does that even mean? Is it racist?
Posted by: Oglebay at July 18, 2025 12:26 PM (2ap+5)

Trump is too vain to compare himself to another person...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 18, 2025 12:27 PM (VE6XX)

98 >>WSJ did him a favor
__
This times 1000. What a blunder by the WSJ. Even if there is other, more convincing "evidence," it will all be tainted by this very obvious hoax. If you're going to take someone down, you have to lead with your very best, most authentic piece of evidence, or your credibility is gone.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at July 18, 2025 12:27 PM (bNf8H)

99 WSJ ran this to get sued. Sued means discovery and arguing over FBI files. This is Trump's blue dress. The whole point of this is to spend the next 4 years arguing about Trump's involvement with Epstein.

Posted by: Accomack at July 18, 2025 12:27 PM (Bbhox)

100 Posted by: Maroon at July 18, 2025 12:16 PM (v2a8e)

Making excuses for joining the Left in an obvious attempt to damage Trump

I knew that was coming.

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2025 12:27 PM (VofaG)

101 People have been making fun of Jennifer Love Hewitt lately for gaining weight. I just saw the video yesterday and she looks pretty damn fine to me.

Posted by: eleven at July 18, 2025 12:21 PM (fV+MH)

She's on the edge. She needs to stay on this side of it

I suppose she has finally realized that her HWood career is over, and has stopped working so hard at staying thin.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 18, 2025 12:27 PM (Riz8t)

102 77 - He had another semi-hit. Something about a monkey.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 18, 2025 12:28 PM (XvL8K)

103 I think Colbert drew that picture and wrote that faggy dialogue.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 18, 2025 12:28 PM (ufFY8)

104 They have learned from the Russia Pee Pee story to be more cryptic.

Keep mentioning AGE but don't make it too suggestive so say its an ENIGMA.

"it was clear the last time I saw you"

"secret"

This is just dropping hints to push you into thinking the secret is child sex.

Its not funny. Its not clever puns.

It sounds dumb.

It sounds like what a left wing socialist imagines BILLIONAIRES would do.

"why, they'd write smart little plays to each other!"

Posted by: cobacoba98 at July 18, 2025 12:28 PM (IuIym)

105 That dog won't hunt.

Just like their description of Kavanaugh's alleged actions doesn't support their attempt at portraying an attempted rape.

Oh I absolutely agree Polynikes. That's why this was so unbelievably stupid on their part. Trump was the only one to actually throw Epstein out . There was never any indication he had anything to do with Epstein Island. The Left is constantly trying to pin stuff on him, like being called a Fascist or rapist.
Meanwhile the border is secure, the OBBB passed and now first recissions have passed. His success is driving them crazy. They will try anything to slow him down. This isn't it.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 18, 2025 12:28 PM (t/2Uw)

106 100 WSJ ran this to get sued. Sued means discovery and arguing over FBI files. This is Trump's blue dress. The whole point of this is to spend the next 4 years arguing about Trump's involvement with Epstein.
Posted by: Accomack at July 18, 2025 12:27 PM (Bbhox)

Seriously ?

Posted by: It's me donna at July 18, 2025 12:28 PM (VE6XX)

107 Also saw a post where Trump's signature is actually outlined in white meaning it was transposed onto the letter.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice)
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Not technically but personally you know that Trump wouldn't write that. Even if he did respond and write something it would be Trumpian and that note is totally foofoo.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2025 12:28 PM (vV6Uu)

108 I was looking at the one yesterday and 'What the hell even is that?'

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 18, 2025 12:29 PM (bss/y)

109 Trump has recently asked the DOJ to get the Epstein sealed court records released. I doubt they are going to be able to do it though.

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2025 12:29 PM (VofaG)

110 The media continues in the shit, Wall, some assembly required stage.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 18, 2025 12:29 PM (HFcKg)

111 WSJ ran this to get sued. Sued means discovery and arguing over FBI files. This is Trump's blue dress. The whole point of this is to spend the next 4 years arguing about Trump's involvement with Epstein.

He isn't running again, so if your explanation is correct, it's the journalism equivalent of a banzai charge against the First Marines.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 18, 2025 12:29 PM (Riz8t)

112 Jeeze

@TheKevinDalton 2m
At least 3 dead in apparent explosion at Los Angeles Sheriff Department, SEB compound in Monterey Park California, which houses the sheriff's department's special enforcement units and bomb squad.
Posted by: weft cut-loop

Bomb squad ?
Could be a clue....

Posted by: Operator Error at July 18, 2025 12:29 PM (41lmx)

113 "that faggy dialogue."

BINGO

Someone else said it sounds like EJ Carrol.

Posted by: cobacoba98 at July 18, 2025 12:29 PM (IuIym)

114 Afternoon Ace. Over at Twitchy there's an interesting thread setting forth that one of the writers worked for the wife of Glenn Simpson the founder of Fusion GPS. It's looking like another attempt at a Russiagate. These people never stop

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 18, 2025 12:29 PM (egMwa)

115 Nova later made piles of money writing for and producing major commercial acts like Celine Dion. He’s still playing today. Older, fatter, and not wearing a leopard print onsie anymore. But still out there playing!
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 18, 2025 12:22 PM (iFTx/)

As God as my witness, until today I thought Aldo Nova was the name of a band, not a single guy. Either way, I hated his music.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at July 18, 2025 12:30 PM (k9OZB)

116 WSJ ran this to get sued. Sued means discovery and arguing over FBI files. This is Trump's blue dress. The whole point of this is to spend the next 4 years arguing about Trump's involvement with Epstein.
Posted by: Accomack at July 18, 2025 12:27 PM

or ... their just not very bright.

Posted by: William of Ockham at July 18, 2025 12:30 PM (jc0TO)

117 I read somewhere that the "letter" was typed vs handwritten. It is said President Trump did not type letters.

Maybe the weird hag who said she was "raped" in a dressingroom of Bloomingdale's wrote it? She was certainly as weird as the ugly woman who claimed rape stuff for SCOTUS Kavanaugh. Remember her with her big glasses and dazed behavior? Something from a SNL skit.

I always thought the Bloomingdale dressingroom dame was way off, that DJT would not, first of all, need to stalk dressingrooms like a trans in Target. She did not seem his type as she was not from Eastern Europe nor a Miss whatever like Marla.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 18, 2025 12:30 PM (6PCLE)

118 As God as my witness, until today I thought Aldo Nova was the name of a band, not a single guy. Either way, I hated his music.
Posted by: hobbitopoly
_____

Real name: Aldo Caporusci.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 18, 2025 12:31 PM (XvL8K)

119 They need food for their idiots, this will do. But that's all it is.

Posted by: ... at July 18, 2025 12:31 PM (Qr870)

120 She's on the edge. She needs to stay on this side of it

I think she has big hips. I can never quite tell because they always seem to shoot her above the waist.

She showed her boobs?
How did I miss that?

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at July 18, 2025 12:31 PM (ufFY8)

121 >>> They will try anything to slow him down. This isn't it.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice)
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Obtusely, he says, this ploy indicates that they are not getting the traction they want from the Bondi sex, 'list'.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2025 12:31 PM (vV6Uu)

122 It's obvious Trump is a kiddy diddler. I mean, look at Melania. She looks like a waif.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 18, 2025 12:31 PM (Riz8t)

123 Sued means discovery and arguing over FBI files. This is Trump's blue dress. The whole point of this is to spend the next 4 years arguing about Trump's involvement with Epstein.
==
They didn't think it through then. He will sue them. It will get stayed while he is president. There won't be discovery of FBI files, because wsj didn't have them. It will be what did they have, from where. But mostly, will be pretrial motion on absence or presence of malice. Because public figure. It won't be resolved until 2030, probably in a Florida court. There won't be a special counsel. Stooped move. They just made him the victim again. Wow. Its his superpower.

Posted by: FFS is there to be no end to the hysteria at July 18, 2025 12:32 PM (+Ez5U)

124 Posted by: Randi Weingarten

golf clap, Arch

Posted by: kactus at July 18, 2025 12:32 PM (twS2i)

125 Trump should try the Putin method - have a few people tossed out of windows.

Posted by: Operator Error at July 18, 2025 12:33 PM (41lmx)

126 This is retarded sir."

Indeed. What a maroon...

Posted by: man at July 18, 2025 12:33 PM (m5/ie)

127 She showed her boobs?
How did I miss that?
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop
......

You musta been watching soaps.

Posted by: wth at July 18, 2025 12:33 PM (v0R5T)

128 >>Real name: Aldo Caporusci.
__
Life is just a fantasy.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at July 18, 2025 12:33 PM (bNf8H)

129 125 Trump should try the Putin method - have a few people tossed out of windows.
Posted by: Operator Error at July 18, 2025 12:33 PM (41lmx)

Oh, the WSJ will be tossed out of a window... metaphorically speaking of course

Posted by: It's me donna at July 18, 2025 12:34 PM (VE6XX)

130 85 Technically, chronologically, was this book created before or after Donald chunked Epstein out of Mar a Lago?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2025 12:23 PM (vV6Uu)

Before. The expulsion from Mar a Lago happened around the time of the arrest.

Posted by: tankdemon at July 18, 2025 12:34 PM (kVWpQ)

131 I scanned reddit today so no one else would have to. I never do look except for a few minutes. Like post election 2024, there is some shrieking over President Trump's health (swollen ankles...no doubt dependent edema from flying). They surely did ignore Joe Buffoon Biden's short comings and falls.

This is all they have, this little child's drum to beat on. I hope, very soon, they are blown away from shocking news. And STFU or, at least, find something new to whine about!

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 18, 2025 12:34 PM (6PCLE)

132 I don't care if it was Trump or someone else, the courts should never ever allow a suit in court where there is not a date of the alleged tort or damage .

That the plaintiff couldn't provide even the year of the alleged action is highly prejudicial to the defendant and should never be allowed to go forward.

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2025 12:34 PM (VofaG)

133 Wylie Coyote truly is a super genius when compared to the Democrat media.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 18, 2025 12:34 PM (gWRQ1)

134 This is as locked down as the Bush, Texas Air National Guard story.

Posted by: Lex at July 18, 2025 12:35 PM (l5xX+)

135 In a single, bespoke "book"
From 2003
Where the publisher is dead
And the recipient is dead
And none of the other "well wishers" in the book are identified.
Never before seen--even though highly harmful to the most-hated man in America for the last 10 years
A book no one else--even the WSJ itself--claimed even a rumor or whisper of existed prior to now
A "imagined" conversation; which Trump has never done
In a "voice" that is no where near Trump's
Typewritten, when Trump is fastidious about handwriting even his emails
Only "signed" Trump's first name, which he's never done
Sourced by a highly-partisan anti-Trump serial-offender reporter
With ties to Fusion GPS, of the ridiculous Steele Dossier

And on and on ....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 18, 2025 12:35 PM (uEVfM)

136 109 Trump has recently asked the DOJ to get the Epstein sealed court records released. I doubt they are going to be able to do it though.
Posted by: polynikes
------------------

That'll help getting it off his back.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2025 12:35 PM (vV6Uu)

137 RE Fusion GPS connection. Isn't this enough proof that this is all BS?

Posted by: nononeyouknowyouknow at July 18, 2025 12:35 PM (oaPfe)

138 The same person who wrote the Dan Rather, National Guard memo was tasked with another project, it seems.

Posted by: Cray Cray at July 18, 2025 12:36 PM (pzqhe)

139 I to know of that of which you refer Donald..

Yes indeed Jefferey, we have many secrets of secret things of which we must never speak but instead right down in a r*tard way like a f*cking romance novel written by an untalented d*ckhead.

Who the f**k talks like this? Do we know how secrets work? THEY'RE SECRET. We don't refer to them. JFC, this is a character assassination attempt by a subliterate r*tard and some editor actually let this fly? Good lord, they must be desperate.

Posted by: Nelly at July 18, 2025 12:36 PM (cHLus)

140 Lita Ford said in her autobiography that she was once double-teamed by Aldo Nova and Jon Bon Jovi.

Posted by: Mark1971 at July 18, 2025 12:36 PM (CNl8/)

141 This whole Epstein thing is a meme "Epstein Didn't Kill Himself" that took on a life of its own and people added shit to it. This came mostly from the "right" and now it's coming around to bite us in the ass. Lot of myths and expectations created on our side. Add on the bragging by Trump and people within his circle/administartion now it's added another dimension of taking on its own life. Criticism of how it's all been handled is warranted Trump and now the detractors within the base need to handle their emotions and plumb the F up. Another hill to die on by some on our side. Sometimes we're no better than the left being emotional invalids. Hell, even I have to keep shit tamped down sometimes. I just hope this doesn't turn into shooting ourselves in the foot and handing shit to the left that'll screw us in the mid terms.

Posted by: JROD at July 18, 2025 12:36 PM (IlL6s)

142 If this is the worst thing on Trump with Epstein, awesome. Because it’s dumb, and I doubt he drew it. He probably did sign it and Ghislaine took care of the rest. Let’s see the other letters. Is there a theme?

Posted by: Piper at July 18, 2025 12:36 PM (pZEOD)

143 The wheels are closing in.

Posted by: Don Black. Message: I CARE at July 18, 2025 12:37 PM (AOsQT)

144 What's amazing is that, just this week, Obama went on a podcast to talk about how essential it is that men include gay men in their friend group for the sole purpose of grooming their potentially gay son.

That meteor of death is free to strike at any minute.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 18, 2025 12:37 PM (KbCG3)

145 no doubt dependent edema from flying). They surely did ignore Joe Buffoon Biden's short comings and falls.

This is all they have, this little child's drum to beat on. I hope, very soon, they are blown away from shocking news. And STFU or, at least, find something new to whine about!
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat
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Put some white stockings on and prop his feet up on the desk while he's flying and he will be fine.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2025 12:38 PM (vV6Uu)

146 She showed her boobs?
How did I miss that?
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop
===
Please to show bobs and vagene. ( anchor babe fashion cop India style)

Posted by: FFS is there to be no end to the hysteria at July 18, 2025 12:38 PM (+Ez5U)

147 124 Posted by: Randi Weingarten

golf clap, Arch

Thanks.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 18, 2025 12:38 PM (Riz8t)

148 "Jeffrey you supply the best 14 year olds. The best. The last one, I'd rate an 8 out of 10. A 9 if she was brighter. But really - not too bright. Not smart. Not good. You're gonna have to try and do a little better with the future girls. By the way Happy Birthday. I have birthdays. A lot of people say my birthdays are better than yours. Even the people who are very unfair to me say that. It's true. Send brighter girls."

The True Accounts of Donald Trumpstein

Posted by: ... at July 18, 2025 12:38 PM (Qr870)

149 To me this is full blown proof that all the Epstein talk is an op. A creep killed himself. End of story

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 18, 2025 12:38 PM (WdMlw)

150 141

This came mostly from the "right" and now it's coming around to bite us in the ass. Lot of myths and expectations created on our side.

—

Yep. We built the monster and now it’s come back to destroy its creator.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 18, 2025 12:38 PM (h+GbG)

151 Since when does Trump send typewritten notes? I've seen several examples of notes he's sent to other people, and they were all handwritten.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 18, 2025 12:39 PM (lIio7)

152 And yes they are going to start calling him Trumpstein and in doing so, it will deflate itself. Because actually it's the Left that isn't bright.

Posted by: ... at July 18, 2025 12:39 PM (Qr870)

153 More allegations in contra (no idea, is Crabtree a valid source?):

Susan Crabtree
@susancrabtree
4h
#BREAKING SCOOP re:
TRUMP’S ALLEGED EPSTEIN BDAY LETTER: The Wall Street Journal reporter who broke the “blockbuster” story alleging a letter Trump wrote to Epstein for his 50th birthday included some tawdry elements previously worked for Main Justice (his only prior reporting experience listed in his bio).

Main Justice was Glenn Simpson’s wife’s publication. Simpson founded Fusion GPS, which was paid by Hillary Clinton/the DNC (through Perkins Coie) to produce the Steele Dossier at the center of the Russian hoax against Trump.

Both Glenn Simpson and his wife, Mary Jacoby, worked for the Wall Street Journal before launching their own enterprises.

Trump is now suing the Wall Street Journal over the “blockbuster” letter story, arguing that it’s bogus and they never showed him it so he could comment.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2025 12:39 PM (D7oie)

154 140 Lita Ford said in her autobiography that she was once double-teamed by Aldo Nova and Jon Bon Jovi.
Posted by: Mark1971
-----------------------------

Was she bragging or complaining?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2025 12:40 PM (vV6Uu)

155 > Bomb squad ?
Could be a clue....
Posted by: Operator Error
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Exactly. Staff was "moving ordinance" when the explosion happened.

Oops.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 18, 2025 12:40 PM (Q4IgG)

156 So here's this for a theory:

The Deep State convinced Trump to not release the Epstein file (somehow), and now that Trump / Bondi / Patel have said there is no list, no file, no videos, they're going to slow leak fake Trump / Epstein connections for the rest of Trump's time in office.

With Deep Fakes, they might even leak a video.

That's my most generous reading of this scenario.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 18, 2025 12:40 PM (uCjyK)

157 Headlines from Oregon

KOIN - Online

Week-long search for missing mountain biker ends after he drove back home in his own car

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2025 12:40 PM (D7oie)

158 Where's the letter that Trump wrote to Harvey Weinstein?

Posted by: redridinghood at July 18, 2025 12:40 PM (NpAcC)

159 If you hold the signature upside down it even says "This is MAGA country."

It is such a clumsy dialog it has 5 names listed under "written by." And it totally sounds like the way Trump talks as we have seen for 45 years!

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 18, 2025 12:41 PM (GNSMs)

160 Trump is now suing the Wall Street Journal over the “blockbuster” letter story, arguing that it’s bogus

I read that in Keanu Reeves' voice.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 18, 2025 12:41 PM (Riz8t)

161 Trump could not have known Epstein very well at all - a woman old enough to have pubic hair?

Posted by: Oglebay at July 18, 2025 12:41 PM (2ap+5)

162 I read that in Keanu Reeves' voice.

Or was it Sean Penn.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 18, 2025 12:41 PM (Riz8t)

163 I am now a bit more suspicious that James Comey's wretched daughter, who prosecuted Epstein and then Ghislaine Maxwell, might have leaked this to a friendly media source to get a special counsel appointed. Like father, like daughter.

==

indubitably

Posted by: runner at July 18, 2025 12:41 PM (g47mK)

164 "Oops.
Posted by: Martini Farmer"

Oopsie.

Posted by: eleven at July 18, 2025 12:41 PM (fV+MH)

165 Remember Murdoch owned Fox News is “conservative” guys.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 18, 2025 12:41 PM (h+GbG)

166 Enigmatic hand wringing so hard right now guys.
Please update when the enigmatic setting hair on fire starts.

Posted by: Cmonman at July 18, 2025 12:41 PM (bxbVs)

167 I think it's time for a nic change.

Posted by: Bawdy BruceWayne at July 18, 2025 12:41 PM (MGB5H)

168 It's cool how they can connect Trump to the dead guy, now that Trump's President again

from Nov 2016 until yesterday, this apparently didn't warrant a single story in the media

today, it threatens our precious democracy

Posted by: Don Black. Message: I CARE at July 18, 2025 12:41 PM (AOsQT)

169 The wheels are closing in."

Right or Left?

Heh.

Posted by: man at July 18, 2025 12:42 PM (m5/ie)

170 150 141

This came mostly from the "right" and now it's coming around to bite us in the ass. Lot of myths and expectations created on our side.

—

Yep. We built the monster and now it’s come back to destroy its creator.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 18, 2025 12:38 PM (h+GbG)

The right didn't build shit. The right was actually interested in pursuing this. The powers that be allowed all of this to happen and fester, no way in hell I'm going to feel bad about wanting to see justice out of it.

The left went nuts over a movie about a hero taking down a child trafficking ring but suddenly is all in on this? They've had every chance to expose what they could. No one said a peep.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 18, 2025 12:42 PM (KbCG3)

171 I guess it's an attempt to follow their normal MO.

That conservative didn't say those exact words but that's what they really meant.

The Liberal said those exact words but that's not really what they meant.

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2025 12:42 PM (VofaG)

172 Now I know why Trump threw gas on the Epstein fire the other day. It didn't make sense because he wouldn't do that by accident.

It needed a new narrative. Because what the Left was planning was using the existing narrative of secrecy and innuendo and power (their own, ironically) and turning it all against Trump.

So what Trump does is he reframes things. Gives them a different energy, a new life, a different coat of paint, and then he controls it. There is no one like him.

Posted by: ... at July 18, 2025 12:42 PM (Qr870)

173 @140 Mark1971- Aldo Nova banged Lita Ford!?! I wonder if he showed up in a helicopter dressed in leopard skin outfit with a Les Paul that shot lasers n shit?

Posted by: JROD at July 18, 2025 12:42 PM (IlL6s)

174 I think the CEO at the Coldplay concert has more to worry about than President Trump.

And I am already tired of that CEO and his HR sidepiece. Like most "news," give it 48hrs.

I do like that Coldplay said they will have a special side without cameras for people with side pieces, which I thought was good.

The cost of this concert for this jackass CEO, as well as the ripple effect to families is going to be deep and wide. Sort of like his HR gf's career as it swirls the toilet.

She is divorced. Well, I can certainly see why!

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 18, 2025 12:42 PM (6PCLE)

175 Fusion GPS...Fusion GPS... now why does it sound so familiar...

Posted by: runner at July 18, 2025 12:43 PM (g47mK)

176 130 85 Technically, chronologically, was this book created before or after Donald chunked Epstein out of Mar a Lago?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2025 12:23 PM (vV6Uu)

Before. The expulsion from Mar a Lago happened around the time of the arrest.
Posted by: tankdemon at July 18, 2025 12:34 PM (kVWpQ)
- - - - - - - - - -
I think, per an article in 2019, Trump noted he threw Epstein out of Mar-A-Lago a decade or so prior. I think that would mean sometime around 2004-2009. There's hopefully some evidence on when the actual date was.

On the side, the Epstein shit is getting REALLY suspicious. Even Jessica Tarlov on The Five was bringing it up; despite her trying to appear smart, she's a Version 1.0 NPC - parroting statements picked up from left-wing sites, but not really bridging them to new thoughts. So, the word has gone out on Journo-list 2.0, and they're pushing this. And it's not to help MAGA.

Just like they pushed the wedge between Trump and Musk.

Posted by: Another Anon at July 18, 2025 12:43 PM (4h45B)

177 152 And yes they are going to start calling him Trumpstein and in doing so, it will deflate itself. Because actually it's the Left that isn't bright.
Posted by: ...
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Is that a pejorative?
Buddy used to call himself Buddystein any time he did business because he put his thinking cap on. By no means was it used as a perjorative.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2025 12:43 PM (vV6Uu)

178 I think it's time for a nic change.

Posted by: Bawdy BruceWayne at July 18, 2025 12:41 PM (MGB5H)

You need to dig up some campy Adam West clips.

Posted by: pookysgirl, dealing with teething yet again at July 18, 2025 12:43 PM (Wt5PA)

179 The fact the FNM had this ready to go likely means they have a mole in Bondi's office...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 18, 2025 12:43 PM (t0Rmr)

180 Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 18, 2025 12:42 PM (KbCG3)

I knew the excuses would be coming. I got suckered in to the Left's plan but I have no regrets because I was on a righteous mission!

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2025 12:44 PM (VofaG)

181 As Trump-ending reveals go, this is even weaker weaksauce than the E. Jean Carroll hallucinations.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 18, 2025 12:44 PM (i24o9)

182 Trump did the thing that no one guilty would do. He made it loud instead of letting it play out and insisting he wants the truth too. He's a fucking genius.

Because as it played out and his administration kept saying there was nothing there, it would have kept the shroud and the lies going. And it would have fed the new story of secrets and games between the elite.

Trump blew their plan to hell.

Posted by: ... at July 18, 2025 12:44 PM (Qr870)

183 The right didn't build shit. The right was actually interested in pursuing this. The powers that be allowed all of this to happen and fester, no way in hell I'm going to feel bad about wanting to see justice out of it.

The left went nuts over a movie about a hero taking down a child trafficking ring but suddenly is all in on this? They've had every chance to expose what they could. No one said a peep.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 18, 2025 12:42 PM (KbCG3)

Yeah, that's silly. "The right" didn't do shit. In fact, "the right" has been downplaying this story as much as "the left", up to and including Trump, Bondi, Bongino and Patel.

American citizens (and I'm sure people from around the world) are the ones who "built this up" because hey, a honey pot almost certainly devised by intel agencies to trap rich and powerful people by having them bang underaged girls is not the kind of thing that people typically shrug off.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 18, 2025 12:44 PM (uCjyK)

184 So do we call it Birthdaycardgate ?

Posted by: It's me donna at July 18, 2025 12:44 PM (VE6XX)

185 You need to dig up some campy Adam West clips.
Posted by: pookysgirl, dealing with teething yet again at July 18, 2025 12:43 PM (Wt5PA)

He was supposedly banned from Aspen for sleeping with all the women there.

Posted by: BawdyBruceWayne at July 18, 2025 12:44 PM (MGB5H)

186 I didn't know Laura Ingraham liked Coldplay.

Posted by: Oglebay at July 18, 2025 12:45 PM (2ap+5)

187 >Lita Ford said in her autobiography that she was once double-teamed by....
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AoS Stylebook replaces 'double-teamed' with 'spit-roasted'

Posted by: Don Black. Message: I CARE at July 18, 2025 12:45 PM (AOsQT)

188 It's PsyOps all the way down ...

Start deporting The Deep State to:

Make Alligator Alcatraz the Gulf of Gator Gitmo!

Posted by: ShainS -- Make Alligator Alcatraz the Gulf of Gator Gitmo! at July 18, 2025 12:45 PM (E2cCq)

189 only good response is just to release it all and let God separate the wicked from the innocent.

This was always the case, even if it means declassifying documents (as it almost certainly does).

But no one believes any of this Trump note nonsense, and no one should be treated as if they do.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 18, 2025 12:45 PM (TdYBy)

190 Does the fact that none of it looks or sounds like anything trump would ever do or has ever done or said matter? Why is this even a thing? They can just take weird stuff, put trump's name on it and that's news? Couldn't they have done any of this low effort "Is Bat-Boy having a threesome with the Lochness Monster and Trump!" stuff at any time in the past? I honestly don't understand any of this at an existential level.

It's all of a much higher proof of refined and distilled bullshit than I am normally accustomed to and I don't know what to make of it.

Posted by: banana Dream at July 18, 2025 12:45 PM (cduTK)

191 Sounds like the kind of nonsense Bulwark dudes would write to their wives boyfriend.

Posted by: Jack at July 18, 2025 12:45 PM (aUUEt)

192 Wow, the @WSJ reporter behind the Trump-Epstein story was conveniently behind bogus Stormy Daniels reporting too.

He was credited for “helping set in motion the first criminal prosecution of a former president”
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they certainly seem to have a lot of time on their hands..
the deep state does...

Posted by: runner at July 18, 2025 12:45 PM (g47mK)

193 The fact the FNM had this ready to go likely means they have a mole in Bondi's office...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 18, 20

SDNY. Comey.

Posted by: BawdyBruceWayne at July 18, 2025 12:45 PM (MGB5H)

194 Gone are the days of "Best of the web".

Posted by: Darth Randall at July 18, 2025 12:45 PM (kV3Ry)

195 I’m struck by the parallels in the Press & Government going all the way back to the 1940s and 1950s

If they have it in for you, they will stop at nothing to destroy you. They go after the Whistleblowers; they punish the Innocent, and Promote the guilty. The Exact Same Playbook.

They did everything possible to discredit Senator McCarthy, and anyone who supported or concurred with his data. Generals who wouldn’t play ball with the Pentagon had their careers destroyed.

The Truman White House secured the relevant security and loyalty files from the State Department, and wouldn’t let Congress view them.

Eisenhower was also pretty shifty, and played into the Press “hit jobs” by accepting the bogus premise and complete mischaracterizations constructed by the media. Fake News has been around a long, long time. It is absolutely disgusting.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2025 12:46 PM (fS43b)

196 So what Trump does is he reframes things. Gives them a different energy, a new life, a different coat of paint, and then he controls it. There is no one like him.
Posted by: ... at July 18, 2025 12:42 PM (Qr870)

Yeppers. I figured he was doing this so the MSM would DEMAND, as they do in their shrillness, to see the files.

He's gonna say something like, "Ok, I told you there were reasons to with hold. You asked for it!" Then there will be a sizzling flame kaboom for an innocent Dim or 20, cowering in the corner.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 18, 2025 12:46 PM (6PCLE)

197 Ashley Biden's diary actually exists. They tried to imprison O'Keene for revealing it. Every single staffer around Biden have just pleaded the fifth. But a letter from 2003 is significant news.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 18, 2025 12:46 PM (t/2Uw)

198 > Week-long search for missing mountain biker ends after he drove back home in his own car

Did you see the one where a woman drove out into the Las Vegas desert in her Jeep Compass, got stuck, hiked out, burned bushes along the way to mark her path, and got picked up by a searcher after 48 hours?

If you see a map of the area, all she had to do is march southwest toward the lights of the city and she would have been fine. I don't think I could have gotten lost in that area if I tried.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 18, 2025 12:46 PM (lIio7)

199 It's all of a much higher proof of refined and distilled bullshit than I am normally accustomed to and I don't know what to make of it.

It's rare indeed to find six nines BS.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 18, 2025 12:46 PM (Riz8t)

200 >>> Lita Ford said in her autobiography that she was once double-teamed by Aldo Nova and Jon Bon Jovi.
Posted by: Mark1971 at July 18, 2025 12:36 PM (CNl8/)

I would assume based on what I've heard that poor Lita was a third wheel in that situation.

Posted by: banana Dream at July 18, 2025 12:47 PM (cduTK)

201 RE Fusion GPS connection. Isn't this enough proof that this is all BS?
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We're going to see the same play here, as well.

The source is the source because the source planted the evidence in order to cite the reporting on the planted evidence as confirmation.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 18, 2025 12:47 PM (uEVfM)

202 > Ashley Biden's diary actually exists. They tried to imprison O'Keene for revealing it.

IIRC, O'Keefe chose NOT to publish it. They went after him for simply possessing it.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 18, 2025 12:48 PM (lIio7)

203 Fusion GPS connection. Isn't this enough proof that this is all BS
==
For years I've dying to see the accounts and bank records of fusion gps. That's a cia front for smear jobs. They co opt reporters and put them up to smear jobs to manipulate public opinion. Its how they control the media. It's as dirty an op as anything the cia has ever done. Including financing led mind control on students like Ted kosinski. Here's the thing about spies. They are lying murderous psychopaths. Why would you expect a fucking den of them would not act according to character? If you don't have adults watching them like Hawks they can do anything....self finance by running drugs.... Sadly, their main oversight is. Other psychopaths. Congress Senate. FFS. No i would not be surprised at all if the cia killed Kennedy. These assholes really think they are smarter than everyone else and should rule.

Posted by: FFS is there to be no end to the hysteria at July 18, 2025 12:48 PM (+Ez5U)

204 Like all the other ersatz scandals, this will end up biting them all in the ass. But it doesn't matter, because they're maniacal and ineducable.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 18, 2025 12:48 PM (WHfpM)

205 Grand Jury testimony provides very little information, what we need are the all of related search warrant affidavits for Epstein's residences, devices and accounts in undredacted form.

We also need the LE/IC dossier/assessment that would have initiated the investigation.

Just like all of the information we wanted for Crossfire Hurricane, which we still have never gotten either

You don't need a so-called "list." You just need the real stuff not the bullshit stuff.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 18, 2025 12:48 PM (XV/Pl)

206 The right didn't build shit. The right was actually interested in pursuing this. The powers that be allowed all of this to happen and fester, no way in hell I'm going to feel bad about wanting to see justice out of it.

The left went nuts over a movie about a hero taking down a child trafficking ring but suddenly is all in on this? They've had every chance to expose what they could. No one said a peep.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 18, 2025 12:42 PM (KbCG3)

I want to see justice too. I meant we built it up to be more than it is. The guy was fucking young girls and hooking up his besties as well. That’s anyone t and he should have spent many years in prison for it along with the “client list” people.

But the right then took this and made it like Epstein was running the world from his island or something. That’s the monster I meant. We created something much more nefarious than what it was and when Trump said it’s not really a thing guys, sorry, Everyone was like Nuh bruh it is a thing and we demand you take on this thing that doesn’t exist.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 18, 2025 12:48 PM (h+GbG)

207 Trump did the thing that no one guilty would do. He made it loud instead of letting it play out and insisting he wants the truth too. He's a fucking genius.

Because as it played out and his administration kept saying there was nothing there, it would have kept the shroud and the lies going. And it would have fed the new story of secrets and games between the elite.

Trump blew their plan to hell.

Posted by: ... at July 18, 2025 12:44 PM (Qr870)

Yeah, that's just common sense, which he seems to have an abundance of. And luck,

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 18, 2025 12:48 PM (i24o9)

208 >So what Trump does is he reframes things. Gives them a different energy, a new life, a different coat of paint, and then he controls it. There is no one like him.

Posted by: ... at

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it's 47-dimensional chess

Posted by: Don Black. Message: I care a little at July 18, 2025 12:48 PM (AOsQT)

209 > This came mostly from the "right" and now it's coming around to bite us in the ass. Lot of myths and expectations created on our side.
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It's a topic that some on the right get overly agitated about. Sex crimes and human trafficking are bad, yes, but some people can't let it go no matter the circumstances. They're fixated on it.

All. the. fucking. time.

And the left knows this. Whether the right and the left were aware they they were feeding the same animal is debatable, but some people, ostensibly "on our side" just got so blinded by it all they didn't realize the left was driving the whole thing.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 18, 2025 12:48 PM (Q4IgG)

210 Fake but accurate

Posted by: Zombie Dan Rather at July 18, 2025 12:49 PM (wBaIH)

211 "But he decided to put a spotlight on all this and make it very obvious there was something in those files he didn’t want people to see."
Posted by: Maroon at July 18, 2025 12:16 PM (v2a8e)

When and how did he put a "spotlight" on this? When and how was it obvious that he didn't want people to see anything in the files? What is it he doesn't want us to see?

Please do tell us all...... What is in the files that compromised Trump? How do you know there is "something" compromising about Trump in the Epstein files? When dif YOU see these files and read them to know there is a "SOMETHING" about Trump in them? Please tell us how you know more about the fucking Epstein files than anyone else on the blog?

Oh wait.... You don't know jack shit about what's in those files. But dear lord, you care! You care so very much that it's just drowning you in CONCERN! You're so fucking CONCERNED about something that you know nothing about that it makes you a much better person than ANYONE else!!!

Take your virtue and shove it up your precious ass, skippy.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 18, 2025 12:49 PM (2J/Lj)

212 What a crock of shit, WSJ.

Posted by: mrp at July 18, 2025 12:49 PM (rj6Yv)

213 OT sorry, but robot snakes are real

https://tinyurl.com/v6pxrkh8

Posted by: Don Black. Message: I care a little at July 18, 2025 12:49 PM (AOsQT)

214 Lita Ford and everyone else ever associated with The Runaways is so overrated. Bunch of nobodies celebrated for nothing.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 18, 2025 12:49 PM (TdYBy)

215 179 The fact the FNM had this ready to go likely means they have a mole in Bondi's office...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 18, 2025 12:43 PM (t0Rmr)

Comey's daughter...it's why her firing had this get released...it's all the made up evidence she could sneak out of the file...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 18, 2025 12:50 PM (tOcjL)

216 I want to see justice too. I meant we built it up to be more than it is. The guy was fucking young girls and hooking up his besties as well. That’s anyone t and he should have spent many years in prison for it along with the “client list” people.

But the right then took this and made it like Epstein was running the world from his island or something. That’s the monster I meant. We created something much more nefarious than what it was and when Trump said it’s not really a thing guys, sorry, Everyone was like Nuh bruh it is a thing and we demand you take on this thing that doesn’t exist.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 18, 2025 12:48 PM (h+GbG)

The problem is...you don't know that it's not really a thing.

Just because Trump says it isn't, doesn't make it so.

They tell you it's nothing while showing you nothing. Welp, those are contradictory things to me.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 18, 2025 12:50 PM (KbCG3)

217 @202

>>IIRC, O'Keefe chose NOT to publish it. They went after him for simply possessing it.

No, they were trying to build an extortion case against him, fortunately for O'Keefe, he records and documents everything he does, so they couldn't conjure the charges.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 18, 2025 12:51 PM (XV/Pl)

218 You're losing your touch, Ace. I was expecting comedy gold from you on this one.

Posted by: Jim Rose at July 18, 2025 12:51 PM (miqrx)

219 Posted by: Maroon at July 18, 2025 12:16 PM (v2a8e)

When and how did he put a "spotlight" on this? When and how was it obvious that he didn't want people to see anything in the files? What is it he doesn't want us to see?

Please do tell us all...... What is in the files that compromised Trump? How do you know there is "something" compromising about Trump in the Epstein files? When dif YOU see these files and read them to know there is a "SOMETHING" about Trump in them? Please tell us how you know more about the fucking Epstein files than anyone else on the blog?

Oh wait.... You don't know jack shit about what's in those files. But dear lord, you care! You care so very much that it's just drowning you in CONCERN! You're so fucking CONCERNED about something that you know nothing about that it makes you a much better person than ANYONE else!!!

Take your virtue and shove it up your precious ass, skippy.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 18, 2025 12:49 PM (2J/Lj)

Don't get too mad. He's a paid plant here.

Posted by: Nova Local at July 18, 2025 12:51 PM (tOcjL)

220 Explosion at LA sheriff dept. 3 dead.

Posted by: BawdyBruceWayne at July 18, 2025 12:51 PM (MGB5H)

221 One major difference, in those days, the F.B.I. was good stuff. They did their job, and did it well.

The problem was, if an executive like Truman or Eisenhower is unwilling or unable to pursue the bad guys through the Justice Department, nothing happens.

Today, and for several decades now, from out here in the cheap seats it appears that the F.B.I. is just a clean up crew to protect corrupt politicians, mostly if not exclusively Democrats, and or the Uniparty - “assistant Democrats” aka Republicans, to avoid anything that might make them look bad. The Press does their part, too.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2025 12:52 PM (fS43b)

222 Ashley Biden's diary actually exists. They tried to imprison O'Keene for revealing it.

IIRC, O'Keefe chose NOT to publish it. They went after him for simply possessing it.

The woman who found it and turned it over was prosecuted.

The government/FNM claimed it was a fake, but then prosecuted her for theft.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 18, 2025 12:52 PM (t0Rmr)

223 Yeah, that's just common sense, which he seems to have an abundance of. And luck,
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 18, 2025 12:48 PM (i24o9)

Trump’s primary luck is his enemies… they’re all absolute retards. Some random names: Hillary, Scaramucci, Michael Cohen, Comey, etc etc…. All first class retards with flaming TDS… given some time I could add 100 names and pretty much the entire press corps including the idiots who wrote this fantasy for the WSJ

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 18, 2025 12:52 PM (WdMlw)

224 Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 18, 2025 12:48 PM (h+GbG)

You were all-in on Milo Y until you weren't, weren't you.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2025 12:52 PM (D7oie)

225 This note is cringe but that's it. We already knew from all the photographs that Trump and Epstein knew each other. They had some kind of falling out years before the pedophilia stuff became known. This is from that time, and it doesn't suggest that Trump is doing anything illegal. Nobody should care about this, but Trump's ego is so damn huge that he has to go absolutely ballistic anytime there's any kind of negative press. Trump is literally the only MAGA person who cares.

Given that the Epstein files consist of everything that the place seized when they arrested him, Trump's name probably shows up in a few places. But if there was anything damaging to Trump that would have been leaked already.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at July 18, 2025 12:53 PM (5pDHH)

226 Where is our Intrepid reporter? Would be interested in Whst the DU has to say.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 18, 2025 12:53 PM (t/2Uw)

227 222 Ashley Biden's diary actually exists. They tried to imprison O'Keene for revealing it.

IIRC, O'Keefe chose NOT to publish it. They went after him for simply possessing it.

The woman who found it and turned it over was prosecuted.

The government/FNM claimed it was a fake, but then prosecuted her for theft.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 18, 2025 12:52 PM (t0Rmr)

Has Trump given her a pardon yet (or were they county/state charges?) If not, he should get on that...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 18, 2025 12:53 PM (tOcjL)

228 I don't know what planet people live on where they think this wont be an albatross around not just Trump's neck, but around the entire MAGA movements neck?

Trump and his team promised to release the Epstein files. They got to office, said they were releasing them. Kept #2moreweeks'ing us.

Then they come out and say "what files? There's nothing! There's no list, no videos. Why are we talking about Epstein?"

Now for any sane person, that leaves three options:
1) everything we know about Epstein is bullshit and Trump and Co are telling the truth, even though none of them have explained that and it very much stretches credulity.
2) Trump is on Epstein's list
or
3) The Deep State got Trump to lie to the American people about this subject.

In none of those three scenarios does MAGA or Trump look good, and in 2 out of the 3, he looks like an absolute cuck / liar. In one of the three, he just looks like an idiot and an asshole.

Why would he paint himself in to this corner?

You guys thought "Russia, russia, russia" was bad? How do you think this will play out?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 18, 2025 12:53 PM (uCjyK)

229 Comey's daughter...it's why her firing had this get released...it's all the made up evidence she could sneak out of the file...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 18, 2025 12:50 PM (tOcjL)

She sure is homely.

I look like my father but have never been homely.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 18, 2025 12:53 PM (6PCLE)

230 it's 47-dimensional chess
Posted by: Don Black. Message: I care a little at July 18, 2025 12:48 PM (AOsQT)

No it's fucking not. Its logic. From a guy who maybe knows a thing or two about narrative framing?

For fucks sake I was told when I explained the logic of why Trump was debating Biden that I was saying it's million D chess. And that he was actually a big dummy and not smart like I was claiming. Exhausting but whatever.

Posted by: ... at July 18, 2025 12:53 PM (Qr870)

231 But the right then took this "

"right" doesn't equal "a few blogs"

Posted by: man at July 18, 2025 12:53 PM (m5/ie)

232
The problem is...you don't know that it's not really a thing.

Just because Trump says it isn't, doesn't make it so.

They tell you it's nothing while showing you nothing. Welp, those are contradictory things to me.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 18, 2025 12:50 PM (KbCG3)

You’re right nobody really knows.

I THINK however that it was built up to be way more than it ever was. Only way to know is do what Ace said. Release it all. Let the chips fall where they may.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 18, 2025 12:54 PM (h+GbG)

233 218 You're losing your touch, Ace. I was expecting comedy gold from you on this one.
Posted by: Jim Rose at July 18, 2025 12:51 PM (miqrx)

Jonah has a twitter, you know.

Or you can check out the wit and wisdom of Gabe over at the Dispatch (right?)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 18, 2025 12:54 PM (bss/y)

234 #BREAKING SCOOP re:
TRUMP’S ALLEGED EPSTEIN BDAY LETTER: The Wall Street Journal reporter who broke the “blockbuster” story alleging a letter Trump wrote to Epstein for his 50th birthday included some tawdry elements previously worked for Main Justice (his only prior reporting experience listed in his bio).

Main Justice was Glenn Simpson’s wife’s publication. Simpson founded Fusion GPS, which was paid by Hillary Clinton/the DNC (through Perkins Coie) to produce the Steele Dossier at the center of the Russian hoax against Trump.

Both Glenn Simpson and his wife, Mary Jacoby, worked for the Wall Street Journal before launching their own enterprises.

Trump is now suing the Wall Street Journal over the “blockbuster” letter story, arguing that it’s bogus and they never showed him it so he could comment.

Posted by: SMOD at July 18, 2025 12:54 PM (RHGPo)

235 Since when does Trump send typewritten notes? I've seen several examples of notes he's sent to other people, and they were all handwritten.
Posted by: bonhomme

Typewriters were virtually dead in 2003.

Posted by: Operator Error at July 18, 2025 12:54 PM (41lmx)

236 President Trump has already beaten George ~~Stephan~~Clintonopoulos/ABC, 60 Minutes/CBS, and others, and looks forward to suing and holding accountable the once great Wall Street Journal.

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Trump Needs to Sue Donkey-Chompers for Defamation a la ABC!

zerohedge.com/political/
lawsuit-incoming-aoc-
directly-calls-trump-rapist

Posted by: ShainS -- Make Alligator Alcatraz the Gulf of Gator Gitmo! at July 18, 2025 12:54 PM (j91WL)

237 "Jeffrey you supply the best 14 year olds. The best. The last one, I'd rate an 8 out of 10. A 9 if she was brighter. But really - not too bright. Not smart. Not good. You're gonna have to try and do a little better with the future girls. By the way Happy Birthday. I have birthdays. A lot of people say my birthdays are better than yours. Even the people who are very unfair to me say that. It's true. Send brighter girls."

The True Accounts of Donald Trumpstein
Posted by: ... at July 18, 2025 12:38 PM

This is trope worthy.

Posted by: William of Ockham at July 18, 2025 12:54 PM (jc0TO)

238 209 > This came mostly from the "right" and now it's coming around to bite us in the ass. Lot of myths and expectations created on our side.
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It's a topic that some on the right get overly agitated about. Sex crimes and human trafficking are bad, yes, but some people can't let it go no matter the circumstances. They're fixated on it.

All. the. fucking. time.

And the left knows this. Whether the right and the left were aware they they were feeding the same animal is debatable, but some people, ostensibly "on our side" just got so blinded by it all they didn't realize the left was driving the whole thing.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 18, 2025 12:48 PM (Q4IgG)

I find this take hard to understand.

Now, I think the right overstates the dangers of trafficking. But that's just a dispute about frequency or prevalence or some such. A debate about numbers.

But I can't fault anyone for being "fixated" on the topic any more than I can fault some pro-life folks for being "fixated" on abortion, even if it's not a "fixation" I share (in degree anyway). Child welfare is basic civilizational stuff in the West. What are they to be "fixated" on instead?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 18, 2025 12:54 PM (TdYBy)

239 Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 18, 2025 12:48 PM (h+GbG)

You were all-in on Milo Y until you weren't, weren't you.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2025 12:52 PM (D7oie)

--/

It was only a couple of days ago he was loudly complaining about Trump not doing anything about Epstein.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 18, 2025 12:54 PM (8dNj/)

240 Impossible for me to despise the more than I do right now.

Posted by: Eromero at July 18, 2025 12:54 PM (jgmnb)

241 Scientists discover Pfizer COVID jab linked to eye changes that raise corneal damage risk

Posted by: SMOD at July 18, 2025 12:55 PM (RHGPo)

242
My beach people are laughing at the rank amateur nature of this so hard that their sides hurt.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 18, 2025 12:55 PM (Tv15w)

243 yeah, I don't see Trump "drawing pictures". that is not how his mind even works.

Posted by: runner at July 18, 2025 12:55 PM (g47mK)

244 You know that wouldn't have happened at a Rush concert (RIP Neil).

My freshman dorm had more girls than the last Rush concert I went to.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 18, 2025 12:55 PM (qwx/I)

245 What a miserable news cycle.
- Stupid two timing CEO
- Stupid fake letter
- Stupid CBS fires non-funny jerk from show.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 18, 2025 12:55 PM (GNSMs)

246 CNBC: Key Points * Visitors to the United States will need to pay a “visa integrity fee,” according to a new law. * The fee will be at least $250, is on top of other visa fees, and may be reimbursable. * However when the fee starts, and how to get a refund, remain unclear.

Posted by: SMOD at July 18, 2025 12:55 PM (RHGPo)

247 I don't see Trump "drawing pictures".

You know who else drew "pictures"?

Posted by: man at July 18, 2025 12:56 PM (m5/ie)

248 237 "Jeffrey you supply the best 14 year olds. The best. The last one, I'd rate an 8 out of 10. A 9 if she was brighter. But really - not too bright. Not smart. Not good. You're gonna have to try and do a little better with the future girls. By the way Happy Birthday. I have birthdays. A lot of people say my birthdays are better than yours. Even the people who are very unfair to me say that. It's true. Send brighter girls."

The True Accounts of Donald Trumpstein
Posted by: ... at July 18, 2025 12:38 PM

This is trope worthy.

Posted by: William of Ockham at July 18, 2025 12:54 PM (jc0TO)

And if this were the text, then Trump would be worried, b/c damn that it almost exactly what he'd have written if he played any part in Epstein's crimes...but you'd have to know Trump to know that...and the fakers obviously didn't...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 18, 2025 12:56 PM (tOcjL)

249 This ought to make Russia happy ...

Ukraine invites foreign companies to test weapons on front line against Russia

.. NOT

Posted by: SMOD at July 18, 2025 12:57 PM (RHGPo)

250 >>> OT sorry, but robot snakes are real
https://tinyurl.com/v6pxrkh8
Posted by: Don Black. Message: I care a little at July 18, 2025 12:49 PM (AOsQT)

ROBOT SNAKE
- would be a great name for a female "sexual wellness" product line

- or
❤️ ROBOT ❤️ SNAKE ❤️

Sorry, just working on the marketing here a bit.

Posted by: banana Dream at July 18, 2025 12:57 PM (cduTK)

251 But the right then took this and made it like Epstein was running the world from his island or something. That’s the monster I meant. We created something much more nefarious than what it was and when Trump said it’s not really a thing guys, sorry, Everyone was like Nuh bruh it is a thing and we demand you take on this thing that doesn’t exist.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 18, 2025 12:48 PM (h+GbG)

No, "the right" didn't do any of that. All of the available evidence points to Epstein running a honey pot for an intel agency. No one thinks Epstein was running the world, he obviously worked for someone.

Trump and his team pull a Vincent Gambino and basically say "everything that guy just said was bullshit" and the entire country is just supposed to shrug and move on?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 18, 2025 12:57 PM (uCjyK)

252 You're losing your touch, Ace. I was expecting comedy gold from you on this one.
Posted by: Jim Rose at July 18, 2025 12:51 PM (miqrx)

Jonah has a twitter, you know.

Or you can check out the wit and wisdom of Gabe over at the Dispatch (right?)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 18, 2025 12:54 PM (bss/y)

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Cap'n Bill Kristol is always looking for Cruising First Mates willing to Swab His Dick!

Posted by: ShainS -- Make Alligator Alcatraz the Gulf of Gator Gitmo! at July 18, 2025 12:57 PM (j91WL)

253 The whole card thing reads more like one of the long form stories Ace would write, trying to come up with the most absurd scenario for Trump and Epstein being besties.

Posted by: Rbastid at July 18, 2025 12:57 PM (AoWAG)

254 The whole thing sounds so completely unlike how Trump talks or writes that I'm very skeptical. Did it come from Dan Rather's typewriter?

Posted by: Ian S. at July 18, 2025 12:57 PM (2ocoG)

255 I, for one, would like to see this letter, not just have it described to me. Is there a link to a photo or scan?

Posted by: William of Ockham at July 18, 2025 12:57 PM (jc0TO)

256 OT sorry, but robot snakes are real
https://tinyurl.com/v6pxrkh8
Posted by: Don Black. Message: I care a little at July 18, 2025 12:49 PM (AOsQT)

No step on robot snek.

Posted by: BawdyBruceWayne at July 18, 2025 12:57 PM (MGB5H)

257 This is beyond stupid. Donald Trump (who had Epstein tossed out of Mar-a-Largo for perving on the female employees, AND helped in the earlier prosecution of Epstein) just happened to write a previously undisclosed (despite over a decade of smears and persecution) personal letter to Epstein?

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 18, 2025 12:58 PM (pJWtt)

258 - Stupid CBS fires non-funny jerk from show.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 18, 2025 12:55 PM (GNSMs)

Correction: Cancels the show forever - so fired the host AND the show.

Posted by: Nova Local at July 18, 2025 12:58 PM (tOcjL)

259 I Meme Therefore I Am
@ImMeme0

Yet another piece of political theater by Democrats, this time staging themselves as inmates in an El Salvadoran prison.

https://tinyurl.com/34j8r9ef

Posted by: redridinghood at July 18, 2025 12:58 PM (NpAcC)

260 "106 100 WSJ ran this to get sued. Sued means discovery and arguing over FBI files. This is Trump's blue dress. The whole point of this is to spend the next 4 years arguing about Trump's involvement with Epstein.
Posted by: Accomack at July 18, 2025 12:27 PM (Bbhox)

Seriously ?"

Yes. This is primarily actually a brilliant but massively cyninical business move.

Posted by: pawn at July 18, 2025 12:58 PM (QB+5g)

261 Who used typewriters in 2003? I don't think I've even seen a typewriter since I was a little kid. There's no chance that Trump pulled some old typewriter out of storage to type up a few words on a birthday card. He would have just handwritten it -- like everyone who has every written anything on a birthday card has done. I'll wager that nobody ever typed a birthday card ever.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 18, 2025 12:58 PM (iFTx/)

262 DailySignal: When Sen. Ted Cruz pitched the president on the most far-reaching federal school choice measure on the books, he encouraged Donald Trump to consider his legacy. “I made the argument to him that there was no provision in this bill that would have a greater legacy than the school choice provision,” Cruz told The Daily Signal in an exclusive interview. The Texas Republican authored an amendment in the One Big, Beautiful Bill Act expanding Section 529 college-savings plans to allow parents to pay for K-12 education expenses up to $20,000 per year.

Posted by: SMOD at July 18, 2025 12:58 PM (RHGPo)

263 My beach people are laughing at the rank amateur nature of this so hard that their sides hurt.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 18, 2025 12:55 PM (Tv15w)

Is this a Blasey-Ford reference?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 18, 2025 12:58 PM (bss/y)

264 >Posted by: ... at July 18, 2025 12:53 PM (Qr870)
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dude take it easy- we're just having fun here

Posted by: Don Black. Message: I care a little at July 18, 2025 12:59 PM (AOsQT)

265 a honey pot almost certainly devised by intel agencies to trap rich and powerful people by having them bang underaged girls is not the kind of thing that people typically shrug off.
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What proof do you have that the world's elite need to be bribed to do the bidding of "intel agencies?"

None.

It's a GD fantasy, a retarded James Bond plot--"these insanely rich and incredibly powerful people want to do the right thing by the ordinary people but are being extorted!!"

They're all in the same club. They all agree. They are all already on the same f'ing team.
They all hate you.
They all don't give a shit about you.
They all don't even have to be asked--they all eagerly show up willingly to the annual "fuck over the normies and steal their life, liberty and property" conferences, e.g. Davos.

Real facts: Insanely rich and insanely powerful people 1) don't give a shit about kiddie diddling and 2) would have killed the F out of Epstein and his whole crew if there was any hint of extortion. And not b/c of 1 but b/c he'd dare try.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 18, 2025 12:59 PM (uEVfM)

266 Wow.

That's some pretty "out there" wish fulfillment content that some weird, twisted woke psychopath came up with.

Posted by: MrExcitement at July 18, 2025 12:59 PM (hOOi9)

267 Trump used the typewriter so that no one would be able to prove he had written the note. Obvs.

Posted by: Oglebay at July 18, 2025 12:59 PM (2ap+5)

268 Off stinky sock.

Posted by: toby928 at July 18, 2025 12:59 PM (jc0TO)

269 Meme Therefore I Am
@ImMeme0

Yet another piece of political theater by Democrats, this time staging themselves as inmates in an El Salvadoran prison.

https://tinyurl.com/34j8r9ef
Posted by: redridinghood at July 18, 2025 12:58 PM (NpAcC)

I say oblige them.

Posted by: BawdyBruceWayne at July 18, 2025 12:59 PM (MGB5H)

270 none of this would have happened if putin hadn't helped trump steal the election from hillary

Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 18, 2025 12:59 PM (CWTWj)

271 $250 to visit the US? OK that’s dumb. Even if it’s refundable it’ll make foreign visitors rethink coming here.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 18, 2025 12:59 PM (h+GbG)

272 The "Letter" is so contrived, it's laughable. Compare it to the Billy Bush transcript.

And I'm firmly in the "if true, it would have leaked years ago" camp.

It's incredible that a newspaper would print such bilge. The Murdochs must be writhing in pain because of the current PRC-US trade conflict.

Posted by: mrp at July 18, 2025 12:59 PM (rj6Yv)

273 The planners would have never expected Trump (being actually not guilty) would yell that he's closing the door on the whole thing. Because it would make him look too guilty.

They thought it wasn't a reasonable choice for anyone to make. So it wasn't part of their plan.

LMAO

Posted by: ... at July 18, 2025 01:00 PM (Qr870)

274 Correction: Cancels the show forever - so fired the host AND the show.

The entire format of late night shows died when all of the networks installed partisan hacks.

Yeah, I know Letterman was a hack too, but he did do material that wasn't just Orange Man Bad every night. He actually could do comedy. There's no evidence Colbert could.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 18, 2025 01:00 PM (2ocoG)

275 The Ashley Biden diary story is actually interesting.

Ashley has addiction issues and hasn't been able to live a stable life, moving in and out of rehab all of her adult years (as you would expect for a woman molested by her father).

She was living with a wealthy guy, who wasn't any kind of long term romantic partner, and when she moved out she left a bunch of her stuff there.

Aimee Harris then lived with the same man and found Ashley's things. She read the diary, released what it meant, and took it to the press.

O'Keefe's people were interested but didn't want to run something they couldn't verify - contrast this with CBS and the Rathergate documents.

When Biden found out that PV had his daughter's diary he sent the FBI to harass them and seize it as stolen property. Well...if it was a hoax by Aimee it isn't stolen property is it? They wanted to prosecute PV/O'Keefe but they hadn't done anything illegal. But they did then prosecute Aimee for theft...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 18, 2025 01:00 PM (t0Rmr)

276 I find this letter far less of a hiccup than the golden pee pee on a whore lie fable.

It is more of a gnat fart.

I am not concerned. The nitwits are going to believe the MSM anyway, so nothing has changed. Until it hopefully is.

Life is good. Go kick a meth zombie. Or join the poor British men in beating up barbarians. I learned today that their new name is: boat migrant. As in sent from Macron in France with no return.

I can think of a lot I could plan for boat migrants. But I won't because I am old as well as land locked.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 18, 2025 01:00 PM (6PCLE)

277 I Meme Therefore I Am
@ImMeme0

Yet another piece of political theater by Democrats, this time staging themselves as inmates in an El Salvadoran prison.

https://tinyurl.com/34j8r9ef
Posted by: redridinghood at July 18, 2025 12:58 PM (NpAcC)
_____

Where'd they get those heffers from? Gotta love the rando screech of "this is stolen land!" And the kneepads they're wearing.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 18, 2025 01:00 PM (iFTx/)

278 Agents sued early in February after leadership instructed them to complete a survey about their work on Jan. 6 investigations, fearing the release of their information to the public would place them at risk. While Cobb said she “understands why Plaintiffs want certain assurances from the government,” she wrote that there is nothing in the complaint or the record that supports their argument.

“There is nothing in Plaintiffs’ amended complaint or the record before the Court—taken separately or considered together—from which the Court can reasonably conclude that Defendants have any plan to release Plaintiffs’ identities to the public,” she wrote.

Posted by: SMOD at July 18, 2025 01:00 PM (RHGPo)

279 $250 to visit the US? OK that’s dumb. Even if it’s refundable it’ll make foreign visitors rethink coming here.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 18, 2025 12:59 PM

Yeah.

Wait ...

Posted by: toby928 at July 18, 2025 01:00 PM (jc0TO)

280
The best part of Colbert's getting tge old heave ho was him saying that the show was going away forever.

Oh, the body blows raining down on our precious cultural heritage!

* laughs uproariously *

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 18, 2025 01:00 PM (Tv15w)

281 271 $250 to visit the US? OK that’s dumb. Even if it’s refundable it’ll make foreign visitors rethink coming here.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 18, 2025 12:59 PM (h+GbG)

It will really make those in their late teens and twenties think about overstaying...which is the exact point. For them, that kinda money is a lot...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 18, 2025 01:00 PM (tOcjL)

282 259 I Meme Therefore I Am
@ImMeme0

Yet another piece of political theater by Democrats, this time staging themselves as inmates in an El Salvadoran prison.

https://tinyurl.com/34j8r9ef
Posted by: redridinghood at July 18, 2025 12:58 PM (NpAcC)

LOL.. Don't they realize that the folks wished they were really in prison....

Posted by: It's me donna at July 18, 2025 01:01 PM (VE6XX)

283 I'm waiting for the secret Trump Manifesto to be published next.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 18, 2025 01:01 PM (/U5Yz)

284 Lita Ford said in her autobiography that she was once double-teamed by Aldo Nova and Jon Bon Jovi.
Posted by: Mark1971 at July 18, 2025 12:36 PM
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Was it real or a fantasy?

Posted by: Darth Randall at July 18, 2025 01:01 PM (kV3Ry)

285 I'm sorta' let down. I only get birthday cards, and then, only sometimes.

I had no idea there were birthday books.

I be sadz

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 18, 2025 01:01 PM (Q4IgG)

286 I have a feeling this Tory will be done by the end of the day.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 18, 2025 01:02 PM (t/2Uw)

287 I say oblige them.
Posted by: BawdyBruceWayne at July 18, 2025 12:59 PM (MGB5H)
******
I can't believe they're actually having their heads shaved.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 18, 2025 01:02 PM (NpAcC)

288 What proof do you have that the world's elite need to be bribed to do the bidding of "intel agencies?"

None.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 18, 2025 12:59 PM (uEVfM)

I have AG (then Secretary of Labor) Acosta saying, under oath to DOJ investigators, that he was told that "Epstein worked for intelligence" and that is why he needed to keep his beak out of the ridiculous plea deal Epstein was offered when he was arrested for soliciting underaged girls in 2008.

So did Acosta lie? If so, he should lose his security clearance.

Did someone above Acosta lie to Acosta? I don't know, who could that order have come from other than someone very high at DOJ? Why would THEY lie about this?

And if Epstein was working for intel, and that's why he got such an unheard of plea deal, then obviously the intel agencies felt like they needed to blackmail people with teenaged girl honeypots, right?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 18, 2025 01:02 PM (uCjyK)

289 @170 The Central Scrutinizer- as far as I know justice is still being pursued with those women that were trafficked. We just didn't get the smoking gun/definitive list.....if there even was one. I still hope something comes of it but we have a habit on the right of whipping ourselves up into a tizzy. People are pissing and moaning about basically taking their ball home n not voting in mid terms. Trump and the DOJ(Bondi) have handled this whole thing atrociously. The people that say Trump is prone to committing unforced errors......well hear you go. In this case they have a point. Add to that an emotional base that had all their hopes tied up in a list.

List? F that list if it even existed. All I give a shit about is the people behind funding and orchestrating a potential civil war many on the left who are probably on this supposed list to begin with. Like I've said. The people on this supposed list are f'ing criminals doing criminal shit and I'm sure can be gotten for plenty of other shit.

Posted by: JROD at July 18, 2025 01:03 PM (IlL6s)

290 273 The planners would have never expected Trump (being actually not guilty) would yell that he's closing the door on the whole thing. Because it would make him look too guilty.

They thought it wasn't a reasonable choice for anyone to make. So it wasn't part of their plan.

LMAO
Posted by: ... at July 18, 2025 01:00 PM (Qr870)

Hey, maybe you're right, but damn did this dude take a very scenic, unnecessary route to get where we are today.

And for what? For everything to come out? Fucker could've just done that from the beginning.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 18, 2025 01:03 PM (KbCG3)

291 This is beyond stupid. Donald Trump (who had Epstein tossed out of Mar-a-Largo for perving on the female employees, AND helped in the earlier prosecution of Epstein) just happened to write a previously undisclosed (despite over a decade of smears and persecution) personal letter to Epstein?
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 18, 2025 12:58 PM (pJWtt)
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This reminds me of the storyline in the comic strip Bloom County where a mysterious diary supposedly written by Elvis Presley was discovered in a compost heap. Everyone thought it was real until they analyzed the paper.

"Official Dukes of Hazzard Stationery" (K-mart had a sale.)

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 18, 2025 01:03 PM (7fElN)

292 > Yet another piece of political theater by Democrats, this time staging themselves as inmates in an El Salvadoran prison.
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For authenticity they should shave their heads.

Posers.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 18, 2025 01:03 PM (Q4IgG)

293 I dont buy the villainous billionaire thing. Most billionaires today were self made. It’s not the hereditary rich guy most people envision.

It’s the founders of Google, two middle class kids from Stanford who had a good idea. It’s the nerd in HS who was good with numbers, went to Garvard and started a he doe fund. I just don’t see the connection between making a ton of money and that turns you into a pedophile. Because if that’s the case, what you’re saying is if you were to be handed $1B you’d start fucking kids too. Would you?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 18, 2025 01:04 PM (h+GbG)

294 dude take it easy- we're just having fun here
Posted by: Don Black. Message: I care a little at July 18, 2025 12:59 PM (AOsQT)

Have you met me? NOTHING is fun.

Posted by: ... at July 18, 2025 01:04 PM (Qr870)

295 I can't believe they're actually having their heads shaved.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 18, 2025 01:02 PM (NpAcC)

I've worked too long on my long flowing hair I would never.

Posted by: BawdyBruceWayne at July 18, 2025 01:04 PM (MGB5H)

296 $250 to visit the US? OK that’s dumb. Even if it’s refundable it’ll make foreign visitors rethink coming here.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 18, 2025 12:59 PM

--

Well, if you say it's dumb then it's obviously a great idea!

Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 18, 2025 01:04 PM (64qRd)

297 Child welfare is basic civilizational stuff in the West. What are they to be "fixated" on instead?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 18, 2025 12:54 PM (TdYBy)

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If our children are not precious, then nothing is.

And -- as you noted -- apparently nothing is in Western Civilization anymore ...

* makes me too angry and hits too close to home to even spit *

Posted by: ShainS -- Make Alligator Alcatraz the Gulf of Gator Gitmo! at July 18, 2025 01:04 PM (j91WL)

298 IMHO Lita Ford could kick the crap out of both Aldo Nova and Jon Bon Jovi

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 18, 2025 01:04 PM (egMwa)

299 Yes. This is primarily actually a brilliant but massively cyninical business move.
Posted by: pawn at July 18, 2025 12:58 PM (QB+5g)

No, it isn't. The future Donald J. Trump Presidential Library will the best, most beautiful, incredibly classy Presidential Library ever. And funded by the MSM f*ckups who thought they could roll DJT.

Posted by: mrp at July 18, 2025 01:05 PM (rj6Yv)

300 Thanks to this "Trump letter hoax" folks are now having a stupidest poem contest on X...making up hashtag "actual Trump poems"...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 18, 2025 01:05 PM (tOcjL)

301
Far right Rethuglicans sieze and pounce over walls closing in on Drumph?

I wonder which junior Murdoch is committing suicide here.

Posted by: Auspex at July 18, 2025 01:05 PM (Y8DZL)

302 The worst forgery since Obama's birth certificate.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at July 18, 2025 01:05 PM (5IFb9)

303 I'll wager that nobody ever typed a birthday card ever.
Posted by: Elric

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The vibe I am getting, based on the people involved and the era
(Why the hell didn't WSJ just print an image?)

Is that possibly Trump signed the drawing. Who knows who made the drawing, but possibly Trump would have signed it.

And someone added the dialog later. Maybe Maxwell, maybe FBI, maybe DNC. So it was typed in the way they would add a poem to an image in a HS yearbook.

So this is like the "classified" documents photo at Mar a Lago where they take a sliver of truth and present it in the most damning way possible with a lot of fake stuff added on.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 18, 2025 01:05 PM (GNSMs)

304 Grok's submission (from X) (do you put quotes on AI?

Grok
@grok
"Roses are red, violets are blue,
I'm the greatest president, believe me, it's true.
The fake news is failing, the haters are sad,
But I'm winning bigly, and it's driving them mad.
Tremendous crowds, the best ever seen,
MAGA forever, you know what I mean!"

Posted by: Nova Local at July 18, 2025 01:05 PM (tOcjL)

305 302 The worst forgery since Obama's birth certificate.
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at July 18, 2025 01:05 PM (5IFb9)

=======

Hahaha!

Posted by: Oglebay at July 18, 2025 01:06 PM (2ap+5)

306
Are we going to get a post on Barky declaring that having a gay buddy was an essential need both to experience and to understand the world?

What are the odds that Barky and Big Mike will appear with Will and Jada Smith on the latter's "coffee table of shame" podcast?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 18, 2025 01:06 PM (Tv15w)

307 Trump and the DOJ(Bondi) have handled this whole thing atrociously. The people that say Trump is prone to committing unforced errors......well hear you go. In this case they have a point. Add to that an emotional base that had all their hopes tied up in a list.

Posted by: JROD at July 18, 2025 01:03 PM (IlL6s)

This is the problem. It's not ONLY about this, but what this also represents.

A government spitting in our faces, only to face a reckoning in the form of a guy who came to spit in their faces.

But in one of the most high-profile instances where transparency would've been most needed, it was shut down.

Hey, if the guy is playing some crazy form of chess, welp, I guess it accomplished what he was going for. But let's not try to act like it's not disappointing to see the swamp get away with another one.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 18, 2025 01:06 PM (KbCG3)

308 Epstein “worked for intelligence” could mean anything. He might have given some info on his dealings with some shady people who were moving money to terrorist groups. It doesn’t mean he was co-ordinating a multi international pedo ring set up by Mossad and the CIA.

People always jump to 11 on these things when it could well be a 2.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 18, 2025 01:06 PM (h+GbG)

309 Here is what I think happened, because I still have a little spiral notebook from 3rd grade where I drew women with boobs. Clothed boobs, as I was not a pervert like Lena Dunham. But pointy ones like Barbie with beehive hair.

I think the Bloomingdale's or Bergdorf's dressing nitwit, E. Jean, had a similar notebook. So she wrote the card and forged his signature in a fit of rage.

How much do I get for figuring this hoax out?

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 18, 2025 01:06 PM (6PCLE)

310 Their crazies are crazier than our crazies:

@jihadwatchRS 5m
India: Muslim transgender groups demand that Hindu transgenders convert to Islam, infect them with HIV on refusal -

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 18, 2025 01:06 PM (mlg/3)

311 If the WSJ can't produce this letter in court, Trump's Library will have an extra wing.

Posted by: toby928 at July 18, 2025 01:07 PM (jc0TO)

312 I watched that paper go downhill for 30 years.The news division was the worst and then their editorial page became mostly "never trump". So they lost another long-term subscriber.

Posted by: JM in Illinois at July 18, 2025 01:07 PM (1GHcc)

313
Billionaires don't type
they hire people who type

Posted by: Don Black. Message: I care a little at July 18, 2025 01:07 PM (AOsQT)

314 $250 to visit the US? OK that’s dumb. Even if it’s refundable it’ll make foreign visitors rethink coming here.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 18, 2025 12:59 PM (h+GbG)

Maybe that's the point. I'm sure the cost to the U.S. government is more than zero for every foreign visitor.

You're not as smart as you think you are.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 18, 2025 01:07 PM (pJWtt)

315 A pal is a wonderful thing ? LOL... Can't really see Trump saying that...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 18, 2025 01:08 PM (VE6XX)

316 So, who gave them the letter.
Who gave them the letter?

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 18, 2025 01:08 PM (t/2Uw)

317 My grad school provided us with free subs to the WSJ.

I didn't read it even when it was free.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 18, 2025 01:08 PM (64qRd)

318 So, who gave them the letter.
Who gave them the letter?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 18, 2025 01:08 PM (t/2Uw)

Comey.

Posted by: BawdyBruceWayne at July 18, 2025 01:08 PM (MGB5H)

319 308 Epstein “worked for intelligence” could mean anything. He might have given some info on his dealings with some shady people who were moving money to terrorist groups. It doesn’t mean he was co-ordinating a multi international pedo ring set up by Mossad and the CIA.

People always jump to 11 on these things when it could well be a 2.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 18, 2025 01:06 PM (h+GbG)

Okay, well then why was Acosta told to back down if Epstein was nothing important?

Epstein was arrested for offering 14 year old girls money for sex. That's usually a pretty serious crime, and usually people don't get to serve it out of a Florida prison where they get to "work" from an office during the day and are basically on supervised release the whole time.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 18, 2025 01:08 PM (uCjyK)

320 318 So, who gave them the letter.
Who gave them the letter?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 18, 2025 01:08 PM (t/2Uw)

Comey.

Posted by: BawdyBruceWayne at July 18, 2025 01:08 PM (MGB5H)

Comey Jr (aka the daughter)

Posted by: Nova Local at July 18, 2025 01:08 PM (tOcjL)

321 Comey Jr (aka the daughter)
Posted by: Nova Local at July 18, 2025 01:08 PM (tOcjL)

Yes I meant the daughter.

Posted by: BawdyBruceWayne at July 18, 2025 01:09 PM (MGB5H)

322 294 Have you met me? NOTHING is fun.
Posted by: ... at July 18, 2025 01:04 PM (Qr870)

Any time wasted having fun is time that could have been spent honing your body into a lethal killing machine.

Posted by: XTC at July 18, 2025 01:09 PM (UnA8+)

323 i don't know why anyone is sad for Colbert; Hunter Biden is ready for a new Sugar Brother. All Colbert needs is a South African Visa and a good contact person at the local elementary school.

Posted by: Nelly at July 18, 2025 01:09 PM (cHLus)

324 You know what would answer all of these questions?

Trump ordering the CIA to release everything they have on Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell.

Then we would know the answers. It'll end all speculation.

Kind of along the lines of what was talked about and promised before the election.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 18, 2025 01:09 PM (uCjyK)

325 Probably looks like art on plastic shit houses at construction sites.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at July 18, 2025 01:10 PM (VzneT)

326 Do you think that was why she was fired or was she fired and then sent them the letter?

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 18, 2025 01:10 PM (t/2Uw)

327 The DOJ/FBI/National Archives personnel that setup and then subsequently raided Melania's lingerie drawer are still employed by the government. This is not draining the swamp.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 18, 2025 01:10 PM (/U5Yz)

328 What proof do you have that the world's elite need to be bribed to do the bidding of "intel agencies?"

None.

It's a GD fantasy, a retarded James Bond plot--"these insanely rich and incredibly powerful people want to do the right thing by the ordinary people but are being extorted!!"

One of the federal prosecutors involved in Epstein's remarkable sweetheart deal in around 2007-08 has publicly said that he was told Epstein was an IC asset and to leave him alone.

It's hardly a flight of fantasy.

Your characterization is ridiculous. No one is contending that the IC is blackmailing people from taking conservative actions they would otherwise take.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 18, 2025 01:10 PM (TdYBy)

329 Okay, well then why was Acosta told to back down if Epstein was nothing important?

Epstein was arrested for offering 14 year old girls money for sex. That's usually a pretty serious crime, and usually people don't get to serve it out of a Florida prison where they get to "work" from an office during the day and are basically on supervised release the whole time.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 18, 2025 01:08 PM (uCjyK)

It could be as simple as both sides not wanting to revisit another Clinton sex scandal when he was already out of politics. Neither political side knew if it would help or hurt them, so they both agreed to put it under the rug.

Posted by: Nova Local at July 18, 2025 01:10 PM (tOcjL)

330 https://tinyurl.com/34j8r9ef
Posted by: redridinghood at July 18, 2025 12:58 PM (NpAcC)

LOL.. Don't they realize that the folks wished they were really in prison....
Posted by: It's me donna at July 18, 2025 01:01 PM (VE6XX)

If real ICE would show up, how many would run?

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 18, 2025 01:11 PM (6PCLE)

331 Have you met me? NOTHING is fun.

Posted by: ... at July 18, 2025 01:04 PM (Qr870)

------------------

Would be great if you and your wifey can make it to the TX MoMe this year (hoping whig & his wife can, and my wifey -- who was born & raised in nearby Waco -- and I are looking forward to meeting some of the many crazy cast of characters from around these parts).

Cheers, Ciao, and Sláinte!

Posted by: ShainS -- Make Alligator Alcatraz the Gulf of Gator Gitmo! at July 18, 2025 01:11 PM (j91WL)

332
Dump whatever they have on Epstein and Maxwell, redactions be damned.

Unleash hell.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 18, 2025 01:11 PM (Tv15w)

333 Do you think that was why she was fired or was she fired and then sent them the letter?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 18, 2025 01:10 PM (t/2Uw)

She was always out the door when the diddy trial was over. But I'm sure this was just more reason.

Posted by: BawdyBruceWayne at July 18, 2025 01:11 PM (MGB5H)

334
More bullshit from the cognitively challenged.

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at July 18, 2025 01:11 PM (hKoQL)

335 327 The DOJ/FBI/National Archives personnel that setup and then subsequently raided Melania's lingerie drawer are still employed by the government. This is not draining the swamp.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 18, 2025 01:10 PM (/U5Yz)

No, this is protecting the swamp. Bigly. And going a long way towards proving that Presidents don't really have the power our civics classes would suggest they have.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 18, 2025 01:11 PM (uCjyK)

336 Maybe that's the point. I'm sure the cost to the U.S. government is more than zero for every foreign visitor.

You're not as smart as you think you are.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 18, 2025 01:07 PM (pJWtt)

Yeah blowing up a chunk of the tourism industry - which generated millions of jobs and billions in revenue….thats very smart.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 18, 2025 01:11 PM (h+GbG)

337 As I am reading the story, and admittedly my redding comprehension ain't great, the WSJ isn't claiming to have the letter, they were just allowed to view the letter, or rather, a reporter was allowed to view the letter, somewhere, by someone.

Posted by: toby928 at July 18, 2025 01:12 PM (jc0TO)

338 The whole thing is probably another IC plot to, "Get Trump!"

Proving yet again not just how crooked the IC is, but also they're incompetence.

Posted by: davidt at July 18, 2025 01:12 PM (i0F8b)

339 Here's one thing I think we can all agree on:

This letter was nothing but a positive for Trump.

The WSJ threw him a massive life raft.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 18, 2025 01:12 PM (KbCG3)

340 In fact, I am willing to bet that if we saw the image it would be obvious that the text was added later as some kind of poem and has nothing to do with the Trump signature.

There are probably similar "poems" on other pages.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 18, 2025 01:12 PM (GNSMs)

341 326 Do you think that was why she was fired or was she fired and then sent them the letter?

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 18, 2025 01:10 PM (t/2Uw)

I think she was fired for being a constant leak and getting caught. After getting fired, she gave them "the letter" which was faked by dad long before as her insurance policy...and her way to get praised by the left (and thus have a book deal, new job waiting)...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 18, 2025 01:13 PM (tOcjL)

342 And for the record, Epstein was indicted for Sex Trafficking of minors for the intent to engage in commercial sex acts and conspiracy to do the same with unnamed parties.

The indictment claims that Epstein maintained a network of employees to facilitate the abuse.

Ghislane was indicted on the same charges but the scope of the trial was constrained to just her and Epstein's actions.

Apparently the network of employees consisted of Ghislane and the unnamed parties wanting to engage in sex acts was actually a party of one: Epstein himself.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 18, 2025 01:13 PM (XV/Pl)

343 Here's another topic.
Elon's popularity has dropped by 55 points and his American party is only like by 25%. Good work Elon. Now both the right and the left hate you.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 18, 2025 01:13 PM (t/2Uw)

344 Robert Scorpio has cancer.

Posted by: Dark Litigator at July 18, 2025 01:13 PM (KAi1n)

345 It could be as simple as both sides not wanting to revisit another Clinton sex scandal when he was already out of politics. Neither political side knew if it would help or hurt them, so they both agreed to put it under the rug.
Posted by: Nova Local at July 18, 2025 01:10 PM (tOcjL)

That's not acceptable. We, the citizens of the US, deserve to know the truth of what happened here.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 18, 2025 01:13 PM (uCjyK)

346 I'm supposed to believe this is the only instance of Trump waxing poetic and drawing cartoons? Somebody want to show me all the other times he did this?

I quote the Ewok his self, in November of 2016

"It's an op!"

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at July 18, 2025 01:14 PM (pIfcn)

347 You know what would answer all of these questions?

Trump ordering the CIA to release everything they have on Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell.

Then we would know the answers. It'll end all speculation.

Kind of along the lines of what was talked about and promised before the election.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 18, 2025 01:09 PM (uCjyK)

Can you not see this has been engineered to take him down? This was Russia Russia Russia again. They have too much ready to go and it served the dual purpose of attacking Trump and protecting Epstein.

Epstein is going to be protected no matter what because it's too big and Trump calculated that already.

Posted by: ... at July 18, 2025 01:14 PM (Qr870)

348 Now that's I've thought about this thing for several hours:

Even if you accept that the card/letter is legit I just can't see Trump writing out dialogue like that.

Does it sound like something Trump would say?
Dreaming up some weird fake conversation about enigmas & secrets like it's a piece of evidence in a mystery novel?

I just don't see Trump coming up with anything like this.

Drawing an outline of a nude woman?
Possibly, if he likes to doodle, but I've never even seen Trump do something like that.

He only signs his autograph and signs papers as far as I can tell.

You can tell Trump is proud of his signature just by looking at it. A handwriting expert's dream of a signature.

Would Trump use his signature in place of pubic hair on a drawing? Again, I don't think he'd ever do that.

WSJ said this book was put together by Ghislaine Maxwell.
So it could only be her as the source and somebody in her orbit who went to retrieve it from her storage space, wherever that is. Unless somebody, somewhere, at some time stole/bought it out of Epstein's personal effects.

Trump is suing over it.
So he isn't afraid of discovery, which means something.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 18, 2025 01:14 PM (6ydKt)

349 I quote the Ewok his self, in November of 2016

"It's an op!"

It's an obvious op. The word "bigly" never appears in it.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 18, 2025 01:14 PM (2ocoG)

350 327 The DOJ/FBI/National Archives personnel that setup and then subsequently raided Melania's lingerie drawer are still employed by the government. This is not draining the swamp.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 18, 2025 01:10 PM (/U5Yz)

It's a big swamp. And DJT has been taking care of business, Sport.

Politico -
By Josh Gerstein and Kyle Cheney
02/07/2025 11:15 PM EST

President Donald Trump has fired the head of the National Archives, after complaining for nearly two years about the agency’s role in the Justice Department’s investigation and eventual prosecution of him over a slew of classified documents kept at his Mar-a-Lago home following his first term.

Posted by: mrp at July 18, 2025 01:15 PM (rj6Yv)

351 > the WSJ isn't claiming to have the letter, they were just allowed to view the letter, or rather, a reporter was allowed to view the letter, somewhere, by someone.
----

has all the veracity of 'some say...' or 'sources familiar with...'

Posted by: Don Black. Message: I care a little at July 18, 2025 01:15 PM (AOsQT)

352 That's not acceptable. We, the citizens of the US, deserve to know the truth of what happened here.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 18, 2025 01:13 PM (uCjyK)

Deserve's got nuthin to do with it.

Posted by: ... at July 18, 2025 01:15 PM (Qr870)

353 I am certain that Epstein was an intelligence asset, at least in the sense that Carter Paige is. If he heard something interesting, he would share with the CIA for potential future considerations. You don't have to be an operative to be an asset.

Posted by: toby928 at July 18, 2025 01:15 PM (jc0TO)

354 Oh, and I forged better notes to get out of class. Not just fake, badly, laughably fake.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at July 18, 2025 01:16 PM (pIfcn)

355 Its axiomatic that if IGTD thinks something is a bad idea, it's actually genius.

He's a graduate of the Jim Cramer School of Forecasting.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 18, 2025 01:16 PM (FdjOh)

356 Yeah blowing up a chunk of the tourism industry - which generated millions of jobs and billions in revenue….thats very smart.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 18, 2025 01:11 PM (h+GbG)

If you really want to come to the U.S. as a tourist, an extra (possibly refundable) $250 is not going to make a big difference. It's not like getting nickle-and-dimed by the gubmint is an unknown concept in foreign countries.

I usually ignore you because you're a contrarian a$$hole.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 18, 2025 01:16 PM (pJWtt)

357 Can you not see this has been engineered to take him down? This was Russia Russia Russia again. They have too much ready to go and it served the dual purpose of attacking Trump and protecting Epstein.

Epstein is going to be protected no matter what because it's too big and Trump calculated that already.
Posted by: ... at July 18, 2025 01:14 PM (Qr870)

Who engineered this?

Trump's own actions and inactions brought us here.

And if Epstein is too big, then why are we even pretending to live in a free country ruled by the people?

"listen, it's too big of a deal to admit that our intel agencies are blackmailing people to do their bidding, including, likely, people you elected in to office. There's nothing we can do about it" is hardly a reassuring answer, and should make us even more angry.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 18, 2025 01:16 PM (uCjyK)

358 345 It could be as simple as both sides not wanting to revisit another Clinton sex scandal when he was already out of politics. Neither political side knew if it would help or hurt them, so they both agreed to put it under the rug.
Posted by: Nova Local at July 18, 2025 01:10 PM (tOcjL)

That's not acceptable. We, the citizens of the US, deserve to know the truth of what happened here.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 18, 2025 01:13 PM (uCjyK)

And I didn't say it was the truth, either. You wanted some big conspiracy and Epstein to be this huge, huge deal. It could be way smaller, and way less important. This was just one example that fits,

Posted by: Nova Local at July 18, 2025 01:16 PM (tOcjL)

359 This wasn't "the BIG Story". It was designed to keep the waters churning and build controversy. Halperin and others were convinced the WSJ really has more meat than this silly stuff.

The BIG story will be published next week. And Democrats will walk around telling each other the walls are closing in, until late in the week when it becomes obvious they were holding an Acme Corp anchor and they're falling from a cliff.

At least that's my guess.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 18, 2025 01:16 PM (kWCwY)

360 More money for Trump. He's been scalping CIA State run media lately.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 18, 2025 01:16 PM (Nt5aK)

361 When I look at this kind of news, I try to find an explanation that fits. This makes no sense, but I think #340 does.

- They did not release earlier because it was obviously not Trump's writing.
- They leaked now without image because the media is scum
- The WSJ feels confident that they did not lie or slander because the document exists, and they will clarify before damages accrue
- The goal is to get Trump slimed as Epstein connected and get a Special Prosecutor.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 18, 2025 01:17 PM (GNSMs)

362
Full Walter Sobchak mode is what's called for now ...

Walter Sobchak: [shouted repeatedly while smashing a car with a crow bar]
Walter Sobchak: This is what happens when you fuck a stranger in the ass!
Walter Sobchak: This is what happens when you find a stranger in the ass!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 18, 2025 01:17 PM (Tv15w)

363 Deserve's got nuthin to do with it.

Posted by: ... at July 18, 2025 01:15 PM (Qr870)

Then why vote or follow politics at all if we're all just resigned to the fact that no one can do anything about "the swamp" and the swamp always wins anyways and even asking about child sex trafficking by billionaires is a distraction and we should shut up because it will hurt Trump?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 18, 2025 01:18 PM (uCjyK)

364 I have AG (then Secretary of Labor) Acosta saying, under oath to DOJ investigators, that he was told that "Epstein worked for intelligence" and that is why he needed to keep his beak out of the ridiculous plea deal Epstein was offered when he was arrested for soliciting underaged girls in 2008.
--
Also known as hearsay.
Doesn't matter if it's under oath.
Doesn't matter if he's in his Sunday best, hand on a Bible.
Even if he was actually told that.
Even if he actually believed it.
It's still inadmissible hearsay.
Do better.

You want a grand plot of the CIA running a knock-off of "From Russia with Love."

When the reality is closer to a known amoral perv, skating just past the legal limit, building a network to satisfy the perverted predilections of deviants based on becoming a trusted and discreet source of procurement.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 18, 2025 01:18 PM (uEVfM)

365 Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 18, 2025 01:13 PM (XV/Pl)

Some of those recruited became recruiters themselves.

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2025 01:18 PM (VofaG)

366 Posted by: ShainS -- Make Alligator Alcatraz the Gulf of Gator Gitmo! at July 18, 2025 01:11 PM (j91WL)

I will say again have you MET me.

But seriously I don't think it'll happen this year. Brit Lass is still contending with her son's suicide in 2020 and isn't in a meeting people space.

Posted by: ... at July 18, 2025 01:18 PM (Qr870)

367 The BIG story will be published next week. And Democrats will walk around telling each other the walls are closing in, until late in the week when it becomes obvious they were holding an Acme Corp anchor and they're falling from a cliff.

Yup.

"Roses are red
Your name is not Quigley
There's a model in my bed
My dick, it is bigly" - more believable "raunchy DJT".

Posted by: Ian S. at July 18, 2025 01:19 PM (2ocoG)

368 And I didn't say it was the truth, either. You wanted some big conspiracy and Epstein to be this huge, huge deal. It could be way smaller, and way less important. This was just one example that fits,
Posted by: Nova Local at July 18, 2025 01:16 PM (tOcjL)

No, I wanted the truth. Which we were told we'd get.

The government wants this to be a big conspiracy, because that's exactly what they're acting like what this is. A big, earth shattering conspiracy, that now Trump and his team are a part of covering up.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 18, 2025 01:19 PM (uCjyK)

369 Anybody check the font?

Posted by: davidt at July 18, 2025 01:19 PM (i0F8b)

370 Imma guessing Trump will be IMPEACHED, rite?

Posted by: pudinhead at July 18, 2025 01:19 PM (W3T6M)

371 Nood. Rescission bill passes the House.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 18, 2025 01:20 PM (ExV1e)

372 343 Here's another topic.
Elon's popularity has dropped by 55 points and his American party is only like by 25%. Good work Elon. Now both the right and the left hate you.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice)

I don’t hate Elon. He just got out of his lane and needed to be told that. And he doesn’t like being told to stay in his lane. Elon doesn’t understand how politics and government work. And that’s ok.

Rocketman needs to focus on getting to Mars. I am thankful for his purchase of X and how he shed light on all the wasteful and fraudulent spending through Doge.

Meh. I’m not mad at him.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 18, 2025 01:20 PM (W2Pud)

373 Part of what grinds my gears here is the insistence by some here that the IC has been completely corrupted (a claim for which there is plenty of evidence, like the Russia hoax pee pee dossier) but that we must never declassify any IC docs relating to Epstein for national security reasons. Pick a fucking narrative already.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 18, 2025 01:21 PM (TdYBy)

374 Then why vote or follow politics at all if we're all just resigned to the fact that no one can do anything about "the swamp" and the swamp always wins anyways and even asking about child sex trafficking by billionaires is a distraction and we should shut up because it will hurt Trump?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 18, 2025 01:18 PM (uCjyK)

Now you're getting it.

But it's not that it will hurt Trump, silly, it's that it will hamstring everything he is trying to do to stop the commies. He already got shot for it and is ready to get shot again, he's earned the right to keep going.

Look at what the Left wants - and try for the opposite. That's my starting point every morning after coffee.

BTW I never told you to shut up but I am allowed to tell you I think you're wrong and then explain why.

If you think those are one and the same, look inward.

Posted by: ... at July 18, 2025 01:21 PM (Qr870)

375 Kind of along the lines of what was talked about and promised before the election.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 18, 2025 01:09 PM (uCjyK)

———-

I wonder if someone convinced Trump not to release the Epstein files in order to do this hit job.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 18, 2025 01:22 PM (JvW60)

376 Then why vote or follow politics at all if we're all just resigned to the fact that no one can do anything about "the swamp" and the swamp always wins anyways and even asking about child sex trafficking by billionaires is a distraction and we should shut up because it will hurt Trump?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 18, 2025 01:18 PM (uCjyK)

Well, the Swamp has tried to kill him twice. But, but if they had only had this "Letter" all of that would have been unnecessary, right?

Posted by: mrp at July 18, 2025 01:22 PM (rj6Yv)

377 Who engineered this?
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The Uniparty mostly.

Posted by: ... at July 18, 2025 01:22 PM (Qr870)

378 Also known as hearsay.
Doesn't matter if it's under oath.
Doesn't matter if he's in his Sunday best, hand on a Bible.
Even if he was actually told that.
Even if he actually believed it.
It's still inadmissible hearsay.
Do better.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 18, 2025 01:18 PM (uEVfM)

Explain to me how this is inadmissible hearsay.

"Why did you not pursue this case, Secretary Acosta?"
"Because I believed Epstein was an intel agent"
"Why did you believe that?"
"Because my boss told me that."

Now, maybe you're right and a judge would say that was inadmissible hearsay. I don't think you're right, but I'm not an expert on the federal rules of evidence.

But is that what we're hanging out hats on? "If this went to trial, an AG's testimony about what he audibly witnessed might not be admissible in court."

Who gives a shit? No ones going to trial on this case, we just need to know the truth.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 18, 2025 01:25 PM (uCjyK)

379 SJ said this book was put together by Ghislaine Maxwell.
So it could only be her as the source and somebody in her orbit who went to retrieve it from her storage space, wherever that is. Unless somebody, somewhere, at some time stole/bought it out of Epstein's personal effects.
==
The FBI has it. They got it during the investigation. Maxwell out it together. Maurene Comey probably leaked it. Probably at request of Daddy. In retaliation for the apparent investigation into comey and Brennan. Dots are connected.

Posted by: FFS is there to be no end to the hysteria at July 18, 2025 01:25 PM (+Ez5U)

380 People who think Biden's DOJ/FBI kept evidence laying around that Trump could use to prosecute them are either insane or retarded. The DOJ/FBI files are obviously now corrupted. Releasing the "Epstein files" was a trap. But now that the idiotic Dems have joined the chorus, Trump is having Bondi unseal the evidence submitted that was used to indict Epstein. That evidence was held in court under seal and, presumably, has not been corrupted. Releasing actual evidence will result in convictions. PS - it was Comey's daughter who moved to seal the evidence.

Posted by: Botched_Lobotomy at July 18, 2025 01:27 PM (/4+8Z)

381 Because my boss told me that."

===
Would be a party admission. Admissible.

Posted by: FFS is there to be no end to the hysteria at July 18, 2025 01:28 PM (+Ez5U)

382 Your characterization is ridiculous. No one is contending that the IC is blackmailing people from taking conservative actions they would otherwise take.
--
Oh?
Then what is the IC "blackmailing" for?

But Sec. of Ag. Acosta said!
And?
cf. the feds backed off clearly guilty Ray Epps.

These aren't masterminds deftly manipulating the world to intricate detail.

They're dumbasses protecting their own rice bowl.
And having a ready and easy "got a big fish here, boss!" by shaking down their "CI" Epstein for any rumors he's heard recently is a nice, fat rice bowl.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 18, 2025 01:29 PM (uEVfM)

383 CI" Epstein for any rumors he's heard recently is a nice, fat rice bowl
==
AND Epstein making shite up to stay out of the pen, is they type of stuff that snitches do as much as they can get away with. They only produce when they have to and only as little as possible.

Posted by: FFS is there to be no end to the hysteria at July 18, 2025 01:31 PM (+Ez5U)

384 I will say again have you MET me.

But seriously I don't think it'll happen this year. Brit Lass is still contending with her son's suicide in 2020 and isn't in a meeting people space.

Posted by: ... at July 18, 2025 01:18 PM (Qr870)

---------------

Ugh. Was not aware of and so sorry to hear that.

None of my (or our) business obviously, but I remember adding her to my ever-expanding prayer list a few years back when you discovered she'd been (shockingly given her general excellent level of physical fitness) diagnosed with COPD -- and hope that it's been possible to overcome or at least manage it without much grief (as I know absolutely nothing about it).

Posted by: ShainS -- Make Alligator Alcatraz the Gulf of Gator Gitmo! at July 18, 2025 01:32 PM (E2cCq)

385 Then what is the IC "blackmailing" for?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 18, 2025 01:29 PM (uEVfM)

Who knows? Funding wars in Ukraine? Buying off judges for favorable treatment? Just having "favors" they can call in if needed? Getting politicians to run cover for the intel agencies when they caught doing illegal shit?

These questions aren't unanswerable. CIA knows the answers. Trump could presumably find the answers, or at least say the CIA went rogue and destroyed all of the evidence and refuses to follow the chain of command.

instead we get "shaddup"

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 18, 2025 01:32 PM (uCjyK)

386 378 ...

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 18, 2025 01:18 PM (uEVfM)

Explain to me how this is inadmissible hearsay.

"Why did you not pursue this case, Secretary Acosta?"
"Because I believed Epstein was an intel agent"
"Why did you believe that?"
"Because my boss told me that."

Now, maybe you're right and a judge would say that was inadmissible hearsay. I don't think you're right, but I'm not an expert on the federal rules of evidence.

But is that what we're hanging out hats on? "If this went to trial, an AG's testimony about what he audibly witnessed might not be admissible in court."

Who gives a shit? No ones going to trial on this case, we just need to know the truth.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 18, 2025 01:25 PM (uCjyK)

No, it's not hearsay at all. What's being sought to be proved and against whom? That the government conspired to give Epstein a walk for IC reasons, right? So the statement made by the unidentified government actor is a statement made by a party opponent. That's categorically not hearsay. It's also admission against interest under these circumstances.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 18, 2025 01:33 PM (TdYBy)

387 Deserve's got nuthin to do with it.

Posted by: ...
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Blam!

Posted by: Unforgiven at July 18, 2025 01:34 PM (XeU6L)

388 what is the IC "blackmailing" for...
=
They are spies. They lie, blackmail, and when needed kill. Hello. These are a collection of rogues. Spies, what do they do again for a living? The operations people all have high psychopath ratings. watch Mr and Mrs Smith, the Amazon prime version. Its fiction but the point it makes is real. Real operators are not nice people. Hell read any of the Smiley books.

Posted by: FFS is there to be no end to the hysteria at July 18, 2025 01:37 PM (+Ez5U)

389 Probably there are people in the Justice Department who are hostile to Trump. Such people may have leaked this embarrassing piece of information, as their contribution to the "resistance".
Maybe someone like Comey's daughter thought she could blackmail the Trump administration into not firing her. More firings are needed.

Posted by: PG at July 18, 2025 01:47 PM (gQbO4)

390 Since when does Trump send typewritten notes? I've seen several examples of notes he's sent to other people, and they were all handwritten.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 18, 2025 12:39 PM (lIio7)

Also the signature being in Sharpie. I only recall this from the second term. I don't recall seeing the huge black signature at all on other signings where pens were passed out from before that.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 18, 2025 01:58 PM (8avO+)

391 I guess all those boob and dick drawings I did in gradeschool are going to disqualify me from higher office.

Posted by: Titian Tits at July 18, 2025 01:59 PM (JqGhk)

392 Then what is the IC "blackmailing" for?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 18, 2025 01:29 PM (uEVfM)

Who knows? Funding wars in Ukraine? Buying off judges for favorable treatment? Just having "favors" they can call in if needed? Getting politicians to run cover for the intel agencies when they caught doing illegal shit?

These questions aren't unanswerable. CIA knows the answers. Trump could presumably find the answers, or at least say the CIA went rogue and destroyed all of the evidence and refuses to follow the chain of command.

instead we get "shaddup"
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 18, 2025 01:32 PM (uCjyK)

The Ukraine faction thinks, at least it is winning. Trump OKed funding but only if Europe bought the stuff from us. Europe is now refusing to buy as expected, so Trump can throw up his hands and blame them.

The people who are trying to block ICE and illegal criminals seem to be on the defense the most, they might have planned this op as their window is closing fast.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 18, 2025 02:00 PM (8avO+)

393 I don’t hate Elon. He just got out of his lane and needed to be told that. And he doesn’t like being told to stay in his lane. Elon doesn’t understand how politics and government work. And that’s ok.

Rocketman needs to focus on getting to Mars. I am thankful for his purchase of X and how he shed light on all the wasteful and fraudulent spending through Doge.

Meh. I’m not mad at him.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 18, 2025 01:20 PM (W2Pud)

I don't even think he was out of his lane much. Ok, he feels super strongly about the fiscal problems. He is finding out just how hard it is to go after it with the current batch of congressmen through political means.

So put your influence towards taking out Democratic congressmen and turncoat Republicans. Hire poll watchers in key districts to reduce fraud. Form a faction that wants deficit reduction.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 18, 2025 02:07 PM (8avO+)

394 Frankly, I would expect this item was never created by Trump and a fingerprint analysis would show he never touched it.

No fingerprints = millions in damages.

Just dreaming I suppose.

Posted by: actually inside the beltway at July 18, 2025 02:26 PM (Wg6v7)

395 "It is now impossible for Trump to contain this just by Jedi Mind Tricking MAGA that "these aren't the files you're looking for."

seriously Ace ... Trump beat DeSantis like a rented mule and you just can't handle it ...

GIVE IT UP ...

Posted by: The Dark Lord at July 18, 2025 02:29 PM (DBAaD)

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WSJ Releases Some Kind of "Birthday Book" For Jeffrey Epstein, With A Strange Drawing and Dialogue Supposedly Written by Trump
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