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Gun Thread: Vacation Edition Number Dos!
FUNdamentals Mas Ayoob and the wedge grip. Any of you guys 'n gals use this style? Is it a part of your fundamentals?
Smith & Wesson Model 10 Weasel hearts the Model 10.
Barrel Wear
They do wear out, you know.
Atomic Effects on Drone Aircraft Flight through atomic clouds is not recommended. Yes, it's fun, but probably not smart. If everyone flew through an atomic cloud, would you?
The Bone
Think You Have It Bad? Q: Weasel, what was life like in a medieval castle?
A: See below. I wish you guys and gals focused on fundamentals as much as you do on life in medieval castles.
Our Pal Plutonium
Highway Patrol!
This week's exciting episode: Father Thief
The Snow Creature! Is this a repeat? I sort of think it's a repeat.
While in DC over the Fourth, I took Daughter of Diogenes Number One and my son-in-law to dinner at Morton's (a fantastic steakhouse) in Reston. The food was fantastic, the wine excellent, and as always, the company was perfect. It's not often I get to sync up with Team Diogenes and I savor those moments. Like any good steakhouse, Morton's has a cigar menu. I selected the P.G. (Paul Garmirian) Gourmet Series Churchill. What followed was a reminder that smoking a cigar can often be influenced by where you smoke it, and under what conditions. The cigar itself was a medium strength (although I thought it a bit on the mild side) with a balance of spicey flavors of pepper and cinnamon, mellowed by a background of leather. Together they produced a wonderful tobacco aroma. The cigar was made in the Dom Rep using a variety of fillers with an Ecuadorian wrapper. A smooth smoke, even ash, an easy draw and, as mentioned, the aroma. Wow!!! Which leads me to my point at the start. Where you smoke is important. I got to DC for the last few days of the 'Heat Dome' and it was hot, humid, and just plain uncomfortable. But these are sometimes ideal conditions for a good cigar. The smoke just seems to linger, to float about and it is like seeing the humidity in the air. I find this really enhances the smoking experience. I was not in a fancy cigar room (I was outside on the deck) but damned if it just felt right, particularly when paired with some Glenmorangie single malt. In short, if you gotta suffer in that kind of weather, do it in a way that makes it worth it. Price warning; these ain't cheap, but not obscene either so if you want to treat yourself, don't buy any lattes for a few days. It will be worth it and you will thank me later. (Note: I bought two; one for after dinner and one, as shown, for the golf course.) (Note 2: Like my hat?)Excellent, Diogenes! I agree, a good cigar and a balmy location go great together! Thank you! P.S. LOVE the hat!
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BANG!!!! fIRST
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:00 PM (0XVad)
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Gubbs..
Posted by: Reforger at July 13, 2025 07:00 PM (lPvx2)
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Two weeks of vacation? Now that’s just rubbing it in.
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 07:01 PM (qEeiR)
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Hello, Weasel!
Posted by: Ed L at July 13, 2025 07:01 PM (BCwQW)
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Let me get this straight, your taking a vacation from your retirement?
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:02 PM (0XVad)
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Plutonium is not our pal. Y'all can trust me on this.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 13, 2025 07:05 PM (0sNs1)
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Diogenes, it’s time like this that I wish I smoked cigars more than once a decade.
But if you’re buying the Glenmorangie single malt, I can make an exception.
But if you’re buying the Glenmorangie single malt, I can make an exception.
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 07:05 PM (qEeiR)
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Weasel, Hope you are all enjoying the vacation. When you get back, and take on the heavy lifting of retirement, I sent an email for your perusal.
Posted by: JTB at July 13, 2025 07:07 PM (yTvNw)
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No gun-thread worthy activity to report. I was outside, on the tractor, slinging dead engines around. Dead 350 from the '99 Suburban got placed on a rolling SBC cradle, and put into the big shop, where it can be pushed into a corner to mellow. Out of the weather, at any rate.
The dead 170 that came from the Zip van got picked up, placed on a barrel, and teardown begun.
The dead 170 that came from the Zip van got picked up, placed on a barrel, and teardown begun.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 13, 2025 07:07 PM (joBNx)
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No range report. Just doing my best on not purchasing the scope or anything else for my next rifle.
I am also in the process of renewing my handgun license and rifle/shotgun permit for NYC.
Currently they are set to expire near the end of August 2025.
I submitted the renewal forms back near the end of May.
I received an email stating they have moved the forms to the investigation phase and allow 18-20 WEEKS for them to process the renewal.
Due to this I am reticent about acquiring any new firearms as NYC obviously cannot keep up with the work load and I do not want to get pulled over and get in trouble for having something I legally purchased but is not in their system in a timely manner.
I am also in the process of renewing my handgun license and rifle/shotgun permit for NYC.
Currently they are set to expire near the end of August 2025.
I submitted the renewal forms back near the end of May.
I received an email stating they have moved the forms to the investigation phase and allow 18-20 WEEKS for them to process the renewal.
Due to this I am reticent about acquiring any new firearms as NYC obviously cannot keep up with the work load and I do not want to get pulled over and get in trouble for having something I legally purchased but is not in their system in a timely manner.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:09 PM (0XVad)
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Let me get this straight, your taking a vacation from your retirement?
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:02 PM (0XVad)
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Yep! Was that wrong?
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:02 PM (0XVad)
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Yep! Was that wrong?
Posted by: Weasel at July 13, 2025 07:09 PM (rAX2y)
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Yay! Gubs!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 13, 2025 07:10 PM (Wnv9h)
Posted by: GWB at July 13, 2025 07:11 PM (IKydn)
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Scoob, I think GWB just farted in your general direction.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 13, 2025 07:12 PM (Wnv9h)
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return to my rigorous retirement schedule
I fully expect some organic tree farming videos, Weasel!
(Maybe this time with tannerite?)
I fully expect some organic tree farming videos, Weasel!
(Maybe this time with tannerite?)
Posted by: GWB at July 13, 2025 07:12 PM (IKydn)
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On the Range Report side, I managed to tighten up my wobbly shit, loosen my socks, and get some good ladder testing done on Alliant 4350 and 12O grain Sierra 120 6.5 Creedmoor.
The Alliant is definitely not as powerful as the Hodgdon, but I’ve got 3 more pounds of it and a truckload of 120s.
And they are all running around 3/4 MOA at 100 yards. I think I’ll take the best load up top and see how it does in the wind.
The Alliant is definitely not as powerful as the Hodgdon, but I’ve got 3 more pounds of it and a truckload of 120s.
And they are all running around 3/4 MOA at 100 yards. I think I’ll take the best load up top and see how it does in the wind.
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 07:12 PM (qEeiR)
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Good evening gun threaders and all the ships at sea. Lots of doings with the blaster fam this week including a big usb power bank falling on my laptop and making the screen unusable. So from my phone this week.
Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2025 07:13 PM (RoO7G)
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11 Yep! Was that wrong?
Posted by: Weasel at July 13, 2025 07:09 PM
Dunno, did not realize how tiring retirement can be.
Waiting until 2028 to see myself. :-)
Posted by: Weasel at July 13, 2025 07:09 PM
Dunno, did not realize how tiring retirement can be.
Waiting until 2028 to see myself. :-)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:13 PM (0XVad)
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 13, 2025 07:13 PM (mT+6a)
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(Maybe this time with tannerite?)
Posted by: GWB at July 13, 2025 07:12 PM (IKydn)
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No, fire and pine trees do not mix.
Posted by: GWB at July 13, 2025 07:12 PM (IKydn)
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No, fire and pine trees do not mix.
Posted by: Weasel at July 13, 2025 07:14 PM (rAX2y)
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Diogenes, great cigar review. Have never heard of that brand. Will investigate.
Think about it - premium cigars are most famous from Cuba, and after Castro even more from the DR, Nicaragua, Honduras. Climate in all these places? Tends towards the hot and humid. So your experience makes sense.
Burning an AJ Fernandez Enclave Broadleaf now, on yet another perfect summer day here - breeze, low humidity, marine influence, sunny in low 80s.
Think about it - premium cigars are most famous from Cuba, and after Castro even more from the DR, Nicaragua, Honduras. Climate in all these places? Tends towards the hot and humid. So your experience makes sense.
Burning an AJ Fernandez Enclave Broadleaf now, on yet another perfect summer day here - breeze, low humidity, marine influence, sunny in low 80s.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 13, 2025 07:14 PM (1m82a)
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14 Scoob, I think GWB just farted in your general direction.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 13, 2025 07:12 PM
You trying to stir up trouble there RMBS?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 13, 2025 07:12 PM
You trying to stir up trouble there RMBS?
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:14 PM (0XVad)
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Good evening good people.
Yearly weapons qualification for Parish Security Team was held this week. This year the set up was a bit different than from years earlier - a couple drills with movement and one or two with mag dumps, reloads and then resume firing.
Three guys earned remedial training - two of them had NDs with the third missing the broad side of a barn repeatedly.
RSO NOT happy.
A bit scary honestly.
Yearly weapons qualification for Parish Security Team was held this week. This year the set up was a bit different than from years earlier - a couple drills with movement and one or two with mag dumps, reloads and then resume firing.
Three guys earned remedial training - two of them had NDs with the third missing the broad side of a barn repeatedly.
RSO NOT happy.
A bit scary honestly.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 13, 2025 07:15 PM (cYBz/)
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Currently they are set to expire near the end of August 2025.
I submitted the renewal forms back near the end of May.
I received an email stating they have moved the forms to the investigation phase and allow 18-20 WEEKS for them to process the renewal.
Due to this I am reticent about acquiring any new firearms as NYC obviously cannot keep up with the work load and I do not want to get pulled over and get in trouble for having something I legally purchased but is not in their system in a timely manner.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:09 PM (0XVad)
If the renewals are pending, can you continue to keep your guns in NYC?
I submitted the renewal forms back near the end of May.
I received an email stating they have moved the forms to the investigation phase and allow 18-20 WEEKS for them to process the renewal.
Due to this I am reticent about acquiring any new firearms as NYC obviously cannot keep up with the work load and I do not want to get pulled over and get in trouble for having something I legally purchased but is not in their system in a timely manner.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:09 PM (0XVad)
If the renewals are pending, can you continue to keep your guns in NYC?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 13, 2025 07:15 PM (joBNx)
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Have I been to the range? Is water wet? Is the pope American?
Good evening and thanks again for the thread, weasel!
Good evening and thanks again for the thread, weasel!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 13, 2025 07:15 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:15 PM (0XVad)
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No cigar stuff to report, but I am sipping on a PBR.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 13, 2025 07:16 PM (joBNx)
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Let me get this straight, your taking a vacation from your retirement?
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:02 PM (0XVad)
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Yep! Was that wrong?
Posted by: Weasel at July 13, 2025 07:09 PM (rAX2y)
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It's about naps. If you're still getting in the morning, mid morning, noon, mid afternoon and evening nap, then, you're good.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:02 PM (0XVad)
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Yep! Was that wrong?
Posted by: Weasel at July 13, 2025 07:09 PM (rAX2y)
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It's about naps. If you're still getting in the morning, mid morning, noon, mid afternoon and evening nap, then, you're good.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 13, 2025 07:16 PM (tT6L1)
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Weasel, what does the inestimable Mrs. Weasel Woman think about your retirement?
Mrs. Red finds many more things to put on my honeydo list. Although she encourages range time to get me out of the house.
Mrs. Red finds many more things to put on my honeydo list. Although she encourages range time to get me out of the house.
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 07:18 PM (qEeiR)
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Biggest retirement challenge so far is reminding myself I don't need to think about work stuff anymore!
Posted by: Weasel at July 13, 2025 07:18 PM (rAX2y)
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‘ What followed was a reminder that smoking a cigar can often be influenced by where you smoke it, and under what conditions’
One of the best cigars I ever had was a DR monte no 2 bought in 7-11. Not even close to a great cigar. But I smoked it on the shore of a lake on a perfect night with a decent scotch and a European supermodel leaned up against me. Not joking. The cigar was not great. Nor was the scotch. But the experience? Unforgettable.
One of the best cigars I ever had was a DR monte no 2 bought in 7-11. Not even close to a great cigar. But I smoked it on the shore of a lake on a perfect night with a decent scotch and a European supermodel leaned up against me. Not joking. The cigar was not great. Nor was the scotch. But the experience? Unforgettable.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 13, 2025 07:19 PM (t+Wsp)
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24 If the renewals are pending, can you continue to keep your guns in NYC?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 13, 2025 07:15 PM
I think so. They say I will not be penalized if I do not receive my license by the expiration date.
So I am keeping my fingers crossed and keeping the speed limit. ;-)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 13, 2025 07:15 PM
I think so. They say I will not be penalized if I do not receive my license by the expiration date.
So I am keeping my fingers crossed and keeping the speed limit. ;-)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:19 PM (0XVad)
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Hi everybody
No gun news. I have not had a good week in general but here to see who had some fun and I can live vicariously.
Blake, my library informs me they have ordered the new Galbraith book for me and I am second on the wait list on 13 copies!
No gun news. I have not had a good week in general but here to see who had some fun and I can live vicariously.
Blake, my library informs me they have ordered the new Galbraith book for me and I am second on the wait list on 13 copies!
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 13, 2025 07:20 PM (t/2Uw)
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Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 07:18 PM (qEeiR)
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She's been pretty cool about it! Not expecting any trouble, mostly due to the fact I have spent the last 20+ years keeping expectations low.
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She's been pretty cool about it! Not expecting any trouble, mostly due to the fact I have spent the last 20+ years keeping expectations low.
Posted by: Weasel at July 13, 2025 07:20 PM (rAX2y)
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So, this weekend, I took a break from the 6.5-06 and decided to finish load development for the 30-06. It appears I have succeeded in my mission, will put the finishing touches on my loads and hit the practice range.
Hopefully, we get some decent weather for the 1,000 yard match.
The final results of my load tests were interesting. It never ceases to amaze me how a small change in a load can open a group beyond acceptable accuracy.
Hopefully, we get some decent weather for the 1,000 yard match.
The final results of my load tests were interesting. It never ceases to amaze me how a small change in a load can open a group beyond acceptable accuracy.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 13, 2025 07:22 PM (tT6L1)
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30 Biggest retirement challenge so far is reminding myself I don't need to think about work stuff anymore!
Posted by: Weasel at July 13, 2025 07:18 PM
Nice!! Just don't start making calls to former co-workers or dropping in to see how they are doing. ;-)
Posted by: Weasel at July 13, 2025 07:18 PM
Nice!! Just don't start making calls to former co-workers or dropping in to see how they are doing. ;-)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:22 PM (0XVad)
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Scoobs.
What part of “Shall not be infringed” did they miss?
Never mind. I lived in NYS from age 7 to 18.
What part of “Shall not be infringed” did they miss?
Never mind. I lived in NYS from age 7 to 18.
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 07:22 PM (qEeiR)
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If everyone flew through an atomic cloud, would you?
No. For the same reason I don't drink to drunk. I want to be able to remember what stupid things all the other people have done and be able to tell the stories to others later.
No. For the same reason I don't drink to drunk. I want to be able to remember what stupid things all the other people have done and be able to tell the stories to others later.
Posted by: GWB at July 13, 2025 07:23 PM (IKydn)
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Blake, my library informs me they have ordered the new Galbraith book for me and I am second on the wait list on 13 copies!
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 13, 2025 07:20 PM (t/2Uw)
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Sharon, outstanding. I completely forgot I put myself on the order list. I'm looking forward to the new Galbraith book arriving.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 13, 2025 07:20 PM (t/2Uw)
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Sharon, outstanding. I completely forgot I put myself on the order list. I'm looking forward to the new Galbraith book arriving.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 13, 2025 07:23 PM (tT6L1)
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Nice!! Just don't start making calls to former co-workers or dropping in to see how they are doing. ;-)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:22 PM (0XVad)
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Yep. Stick with the basics, texting selfies lounging on the deck with a cigar and a nice glass of bourbon in hand.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:22 PM (0XVad)
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Yep. Stick with the basics, texting selfies lounging on the deck with a cigar and a nice glass of bourbon in hand.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 13, 2025 07:24 PM (tT6L1)
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One of the most ... impactful things I ever saw in a simulator was in the B-1 Offensive Systems Operator (OSO) position. On the bombing run, the bay doors indicator went from CLOSED to OPEN. the "bay" indicator went from FULL to PARTIAL, and the bay doors indicator went from OPEN to CLOSED. Then the electronic map blanked and reset with the next target. And 1 million people had just become so many constituent atoms. Blink, blink, blink, blink and poof.
(Yes, I hate using that word, too, but it happens to work in this one instance.)
(Yes, I hate using that word, too, but it happens to work in this one instance.)
Posted by: GWB at July 13, 2025 07:26 PM (IKydn)
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That clip of Highway Patrol - notice the sound of the car doors slamming. Not a solid close like today's vehicles. More like a tin can. No wonder we all threw them as hard as we could. Well that, and the fact that they weighed 4 and a half tons.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 13, 2025 07:26 PM (cYBz/)
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Elric I think a Backwoods and some grocery store brand scotch suffice if the company is what you describe.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 13, 2025 07:27 PM (1m82a)
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“keeping expectations low.”
Thanks, Weasel. I think I’ve found my new motto.
Thanks, Weasel. I think I’ve found my new motto.
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 07:28 PM (+EVjX)
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I have been trying to justify a lever gun for a bit. I mean, it's very Merican and all that but it's caliber sprawl and I don't really NEED one.
Well.
I was visiting blaster acres and thinking: I do own a ranch. And cows graze on that property. THAT MAKES ME A COWBOY.
And lever guns are cowboy guns amirite?
So I got one of these.
http://preview.alturl.com/2tjyz
Yes it's Turkish but James Reeves likes it so it's okay.
Well.
I was visiting blaster acres and thinking: I do own a ranch. And cows graze on that property. THAT MAKES ME A COWBOY.
And lever guns are cowboy guns amirite?
So I got one of these.
http://preview.alturl.com/2tjyz
Yes it's Turkish but James Reeves likes it so it's okay.
Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2025 07:28 PM (RoO7G)
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Plutonium is not our pal. Y'all can trust me on this.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 13, 2025 07:05 PM (0sNs1)
It wasn't the plutonium that made our scout troop chaplain a near cripple. It was the lithium that he soaked in once. Yes, he was a submariner.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 13, 2025 07:05 PM (0sNs1)
It wasn't the plutonium that made our scout troop chaplain a near cripple. It was the lithium that he soaked in once. Yes, he was a submariner.
Posted by: GWB at July 13, 2025 07:28 PM (IKydn)
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Acquired my shiny new Ruger SP101 in 9mm yesterday. Ordered and purchased through the local L&M Fleet Store, got it for a couple hundred below the manufacturers recommended price. Haven't had a chance yet to shoot it yet, hope to be able to submit a range report next gun thread.
Posted by: davidt at July 13, 2025 07:30 PM (i0F8b)
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You trying to stir up trouble there RMBS?
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:14 PM
*shifty eyes*
No...why...what have you heard?
*shifty eyes*
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:14 PM
*shifty eyes*
No...why...what have you heard?
*shifty eyes*
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 13, 2025 07:31 PM (Wnv9h)
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Biggest retirement challenge so far is reminding myself I don't need to think about work stuff anymore!
Posted by: Weasel
Right before I retired, a number of folks counseled me that it would take a year of so to settle into my new life and completely forget about work.
Honestly, I put it all behind me on the last drive home.
Posted by: Weasel
Right before I retired, a number of folks counseled me that it would take a year of so to settle into my new life and completely forget about work.
Honestly, I put it all behind me on the last drive home.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 13, 2025 07:31 PM (cYBz/)
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And they are all running around 3/4 MOA at 100 yards. I think I’ll take the best load up top and see how it does in the wind.
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 07:12 PM (qEeiR)
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How fast are you pushing the bullets?
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 07:12 PM (qEeiR)
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How fast are you pushing the bullets?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 13, 2025 07:31 PM (tT6L1)
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Here is a question.
So I have the rifle and scope selected for my next build.
I am going to purchase the rings for the scope from a place that has the Weasel seal of approval (logo pending).
I have a choice of two materials, aluminum or steel and I have a choice of ring heights, low, standard, medium, high and EX-high.
What does one choose? Buy now or wait until you have rifle/scope in hand to get an idea? I might even have to get a rifle base to give my more MOA.
Decisions, decisions.
So I have the rifle and scope selected for my next build.
I am going to purchase the rings for the scope from a place that has the Weasel seal of approval (logo pending).
I have a choice of two materials, aluminum or steel and I have a choice of ring heights, low, standard, medium, high and EX-high.
What does one choose? Buy now or wait until you have rifle/scope in hand to get an idea? I might even have to get a rifle base to give my more MOA.
Decisions, decisions.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:31 PM (0XVad)
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I never have adult beverages when burning because it’s always afternoon. With the longer days I should move some burns to after dinner so I can try some rums bourbons and ryes with my dried fermented hand-rolled blac tobacco leaf thinggies.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 13, 2025 07:32 PM (1m82a)
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Also - we went to the range! I will have to do a write up about the whole thing but we went to Campion Defense LLC in Swansea, SC. Which is about 15 miles from my mother's house.
She's going to be getting a lot more visits!
She's going to be getting a lot more visits!
Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2025 07:32 PM (RoO7G)
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Having satisfied, more or less, the required practice of fundamentals for my range day, I decided to have a bit of fun. I had a case of expired canned dog food and a bunch of .357 magnum loads, and so what the heck! I set up the cans on posts with the top of the cans facing me and let her rip. Boy, howdy, them cans get splody when a .357 hollow point hits them! Beef and lamb puree all over the place. I policed up what was left of the cans and left the former contents for the critters to snack on. Fun times.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at July 13, 2025 07:32 PM (VJ4mQ)
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37 Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 07:22 PM
It is obvious they just do not recognize the word "not". That is their go to for anything gun related.
It is obvious they just do not recognize the word "not". That is their go to for anything gun related.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:34 PM (0XVad)
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Sharon, outstanding. I completely forgot I put myself on the order list. I'm looking forward to the new Galbraith book arriving.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
I look forward to out discussion in Texas. (-:
Sharon, outstanding. I completely forgot I put myself on the order list. I'm looking forward to the new Galbraith book arriving.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
I look forward to out discussion in Texas. (-:
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 13, 2025 07:34 PM (t/2Uw)
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Took the .32 ACP Walther PPK to the range this weekend for a test drive at an FBI qualification target. The PPK's sights make the pistol marginal at best for bullseye shooting. I wanted to try it on a (roughly) man sized target to see how it would do at 10 yards. I managed to get the majority of the shots in the center target box. I also tried a couple of magazines one-handed at 10 yards. About half my shots hit inside the center target box shooting one-handed. The other half outside the box hit fairly close to it. Shooting .32 ACP with one hand produces mild recoil that's easily (for me, anyway) controlled.
Helena Handbasket, what do you think about putting this on the beginner's table at TX?
Helena Handbasket, what do you think about putting this on the beginner's table at TX?
Posted by: Ed L at July 13, 2025 07:34 PM (BCwQW)
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I'm envious, Weasel. I have not found it so easy to walk away from the grind and go talk to the trees.
Posted by: fd at July 13, 2025 07:35 PM (vFG9F)
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I got a new Sig P365 and am signing up for a CCL class next month. The magazine springs are ridiculously hard and I purchased a loader to help out. I can't get more than four rounds to load in the 12 round magazine. When I press down, it's as if there is something blocking it, not just that it's hard to press.
Has anyone run into this? I've read about how difficult it can be to load the last round or two, but I haven't seen anything about having this much trouble. The gun was brand new, out of the box, and included two magazines, and it's the same story with both.
Has anyone run into this? I've read about how difficult it can be to load the last round or two, but I haven't seen anything about having this much trouble. The gun was brand new, out of the box, and included two magazines, and it's the same story with both.
Posted by: windbag at July 13, 2025 07:35 PM (agbau)
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*Champion Defense
Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2025 07:36 PM (RoO7G)
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Blake, I’m only up to 2713 at the top, but with best accuracy. The book tells me I’m over the limit, but it also says I should be running 2900.
Between the barrel length, number of shots through, and the lower performance of the Alliant, I think I have ways to go. But I’m getting close to a compressed load.
Between the barrel length, number of shots through, and the lower performance of the Alliant, I think I have ways to go. But I’m getting close to a compressed load.
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 07:36 PM (+EVjX)
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I'm envious, Weasel. I have not found it so easy to walk away from the grind and go talk to the trees.
Posted by: fd at July 13, 2025 07:35 PM (vFG9F)
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I was initially worried I'd regret the decision. Not so much!
Posted by: fd at July 13, 2025 07:35 PM (vFG9F)
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I was initially worried I'd regret the decision. Not so much!
Posted by: Weasel at July 13, 2025 07:37 PM (rAX2y)
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blaster,
I have a Henry lever action .22 rifle.
It’s prolly my favorite long gun. Nice cherry wood, not heavy, simple and a great plinking gun.
I have a Henry lever action .22 rifle.
It’s prolly my favorite long gun. Nice cherry wood, not heavy, simple and a great plinking gun.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 13, 2025 07:37 PM (mT+6a)
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9mikemike SP101? Whoa I really am out of touch with the market. Good thing, the oil wells aren’t producing like they used to. Could easily drop big $$ with all the toys out there now. Even them Turkish semi-autos are available here now.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 13, 2025 07:37 PM (1m82a)
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"The Snow Creature" is more a punishment than a bonus. It proves that Brother Billy got all the talent in the Wilder family.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 13, 2025 07:38 PM (CHHv1)
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Yes Windbag, those mags are hard to load. The last two of twelve I struggle too. I'll keep looking to see if I accidentally picked up a 10 round mag.
Posted by: fd at July 13, 2025 07:40 PM (vFG9F)
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I've been looking at the new Henry Supreme lever action with a 10 rd mag. Trying to talk the range into buying one for me to try out. Would be nice to be able to rent and i think I would get a discount as a member even though they would have to send it to my local gun store in MD.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 13, 2025 07:40 PM (t/2Uw)
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Blake, I’m only up to 2713 at the top, but with best accuracy. The book tells me I’m over the limit, but it also says I should be running 2900.
Between the barrel length, number of shots through, and the lower performance of the Alliant, I think I have ways to go. But I’m getting close to a compressed load.
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 07:36 PM (+EVjX)
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Interesting. Lapua brass, I assume? You need to stick those 120's on top of a necked down 06 cartridge, You'll have those bad boys screaming out of the barrel @ 3,100 fps.
Between the barrel length, number of shots through, and the lower performance of the Alliant, I think I have ways to go. But I’m getting close to a compressed load.
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 07:36 PM (+EVjX)
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Interesting. Lapua brass, I assume? You need to stick those 120's on top of a necked down 06 cartridge, You'll have those bad boys screaming out of the barrel @ 3,100 fps.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 13, 2025 07:40 PM (tT6L1)
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Hard to believe, but one of the locations that Henry rifles are made is in Bayonne, New Jersey which is right across the bridge from where I live.
I do wonder how long before they are hounded out of the State.
I do wonder how long before they are hounded out of the State.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:43 PM (0XVad)
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I got a new Sig P365 and am signing up for a CCL class next month. The magazine springs are ridiculously hard and I purchased a loader to help out. I can't get more than four rounds to load in the 12 round magazine. When I press down, it's as if there is something blocking it, not just that it's hard to press.
Has anyone run into this? I've read about how difficult it can be to load the last round or two, but I haven't seen anything about having this much trouble. The gun was brand new, out of the box, and included two magazines, and it's the same story with both.
Posted by: windbag at July 13, 2025 07:35 PM (agbau)
You might want to get some more magazines. Magazines are an expendable item for any semi-auto pistol, so getting spares is in order. Yes, the springs can be stiff. That's because the springs' tension is what feeds fresh rounds into the chamber. If a magazine is giving you problems you can't handle, don't be afraid to replace it with another one.
Has anyone run into this? I've read about how difficult it can be to load the last round or two, but I haven't seen anything about having this much trouble. The gun was brand new, out of the box, and included two magazines, and it's the same story with both.
Posted by: windbag at July 13, 2025 07:35 PM (agbau)
You might want to get some more magazines. Magazines are an expendable item for any semi-auto pistol, so getting spares is in order. Yes, the springs can be stiff. That's because the springs' tension is what feeds fresh rounds into the chamber. If a magazine is giving you problems you can't handle, don't be afraid to replace it with another one.
Posted by: Ed L at July 13, 2025 07:44 PM (BCwQW)
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Uberti 1866 repro is only lever gun so far, but an older Rossi in .357 remains a goal. 1866 is in 45 Colt, not historically accurate but easy to reload and perfect for silhouette matches.
Plus I can do part of my upper body resistance workout with the rifle between shots, it weighs a crap ton. And recoil is nothing.
Plus I can do part of my upper body resistance workout with the rifle between shots, it weighs a crap ton. And recoil is nothing.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 13, 2025 07:44 PM (1m82a)
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So I got one of these.
http://preview.alturl.com/2tjyz
Yes it's Turkish but James Reeves likes it so it's okay.
Posted by: blaster
Linky no worky
http://preview.alturl.com/2tjyz
Yes it's Turkish but James Reeves likes it so it's okay.
Posted by: blaster
Linky no worky
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 13, 2025 07:44 PM (/lPRQ)
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No, no shooting stuff this week. I did get my a/c fixed today, finally. And I went to a casino this week - took my wife and son and daughter-in-law to a show. It was somewhat troublesome to have to leave my EDC in the car.
It was also a pretty lame casino, IMO. And I don't particularly like casinos. But the show was pretty good (the wife's favorite comedian).
It was also a pretty lame casino, IMO. And I don't particularly like casinos. But the show was pretty good (the wife's favorite comedian).
Posted by: GWB at July 13, 2025 07:44 PM (IKydn)
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Good evening y'all, back from another parental trip in Pittsburgh. No range time, but that will be remedied this week. Instead, since I returned home alone, I decided to test just how fast my little car can go without collecting any unexpected paperwork from cars with lights on top. And the little car did just fine....
Posted by: The Grateful at July 13, 2025 07:45 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Champion has a rifle range that goes out to 600 yards but for reasons we could only shoot out to the 400 yard targets.
I brought sra blasters Howa 1500 to Florida so we could go to a long range - but the one in Florida did not allow non-members on the long rifle range. Champion was like pay us money and we will let you shoot. $30 pp for a day pass 5% off for veterans and active military and first responders.
We had zeroed at 100 earlier so we we shot 200 yards first. Ding ding the steel rings.
Then we go to 300....
I brought sra blasters Howa 1500 to Florida so we could go to a long range - but the one in Florida did not allow non-members on the long rifle range. Champion was like pay us money and we will let you shoot. $30 pp for a day pass 5% off for veterans and active military and first responders.
We had zeroed at 100 earlier so we we shot 200 yards first. Ding ding the steel rings.
Then we go to 300....
Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2025 07:45 PM (RoO7G)
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I do wonder how long before they are hounded out of the State.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:43 PM (0XVad)
I understand they're already planning to move to WI because of the politics in NJ.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:43 PM (0XVad)
I understand they're already planning to move to WI because of the politics in NJ.
Posted by: Ed L at July 13, 2025 07:45 PM (BCwQW)
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Scoob, I think GWB just farted in your general direction.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 13, 2025 07:12 PM (Wnv9h)
LOL! That was supposed to be a squib.
Which is a gun fart, I guess.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 13, 2025 07:12 PM (Wnv9h)
LOL! That was supposed to be a squib.
Which is a gun fart, I guess.
Posted by: GWB at July 13, 2025 07:46 PM (IKydn)
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Diogenes, it’s time like this that I wish I smoked cigars more than once a decade.
But if you’re buying the Glenmorangie single malt, I can make an exception.
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 07:05 PM (qEeiR)
RI Red,
First round is on me!
But if you’re buying the Glenmorangie single malt, I can make an exception.
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 07:05 PM (qEeiR)
RI Red,
First round is on me!
Posted by: Diogenes at July 13, 2025 07:46 PM (W/lyH)
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I can't get more than four rounds to load in the 12 round magazine. When I press down, it's as if there is something blocking it, not just that it's hard to press.
Can you disassemble the mag? Definitely sounds like some kind of mechanical flaw.
Can you disassemble the mag? Definitely sounds like some kind of mechanical flaw.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 13, 2025 07:46 PM (/y8xj)
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 13, 2025 07:47 PM (t/2Uw)
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I've had a model 10 Heavy Bbl for 15 years, an amazing gun.
Posted by: UnkleSteve at July 13, 2025 07:47 PM (f/KOq)
Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2025 07:48 PM (RoO7G)
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Re Sig P365 and mags.
Yes. They are tight. Almost impossible to load. At first.
Load and load unload ten times it will be better.
Yes. They are tight. Almost impossible to load. At first.
Load and load unload ten times it will be better.
Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2025 07:49 PM (RoO7G)
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Decided to beat the upcoming suppressor shortage by buying two now, a .22 rimfire and a .223 model. The dealer had an electronic kiosk in the shop, but the one employee trained on it had quit the day before. Hope to get my forms submitted this week.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at July 13, 2025 07:49 PM (WoXYL)
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Selling some 54R to another RO at the club. Back when it was cheap (this is Bulgarian surplus) I stacked it high and can easily spare it. Will pay for more 45 and 30 carbine bullets, which thanks to resumed production at the bench are nearly out. Will also cover some new electronic muffs I just got.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 13, 2025 07:50 PM (1m82a)
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I've had a model 10 Heavy Bbl for 15 years, an amazing gun.
Posted by: UnkleSteve at July 13, 2025 07:47 PM (f/KOq)
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*fistbump* and welcome!
Posted by: UnkleSteve at July 13, 2025 07:47 PM (f/KOq)
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*fistbump* and welcome!
Posted by: Weasel at July 13, 2025 07:52 PM (rAX2y)
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I have a choice of two materials, aluminum or steel and I have a choice of ring heights, low, standard, medium, high and EX-high.
Decisions, decisions.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:31 PM
As Weasel said to me, unless you're running around in the woods in weather, get steel. I went with standard height.
Decisions, decisions.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:31 PM
As Weasel said to me, unless you're running around in the woods in weather, get steel. I went with standard height.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 13, 2025 07:54 PM (Wnv9h)
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Sportsman's Warehouse has Sig P365 XL with a red dot on sale. I got a spare. Clerk told me it was the fourth one he had sold that day and it was only noon.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at July 13, 2025 07:55 PM (WoXYL)
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Posted by: rhomboid at July 13, 2025 07:50 PM (1m82a)
Imported ammo (of any caliber) will, if it isn't already, be a casualty of the ongoing tariff wars until those wars are over. Even then, I think the supply of imported ammo will probably stay limited until the war in Ukraine gets settled.
Imported ammo (of any caliber) will, if it isn't already, be a casualty of the ongoing tariff wars until those wars are over. Even then, I think the supply of imported ammo will probably stay limited until the war in Ukraine gets settled.
Posted by: Ed L at July 13, 2025 07:56 PM (BCwQW)
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Howdy!
Posted by: Puddleglum, chillin' in Amish Country at July 13, 2025 07:56 PM (uGaBv)
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Back to Champion Defense. We moved to 300 yards and we just kept shooting and shooting and shooting and couldn't hit the dang thing.
Aside: friends, if you go shooting after listening to weasel tell you how to shoot right but you forget to do the stuff he told you to do, do you think you will get the results he says you will? Asking for a friend.
So, anyway, a good spotter makes all the difference. I packed the rifle but not our spotting scope so we picked up a little 10x monocular at Walmart because better than nothing. A guy two lanes over had a nice rifle set up with a big scope. He said "you're shooting too low". Need to come up (he guessed) about 2 MOA. Okay. 8 clicks.
Boom. Ding! sra blaster gets behind the rifle. Boom. Ding! Boom. Ding! Boom. Ding!
We were shooting 3 rounds at a time.
So then to 400 yards.
Aside: friends, if you go shooting after listening to weasel tell you how to shoot right but you forget to do the stuff he told you to do, do you think you will get the results he says you will? Asking for a friend.
So, anyway, a good spotter makes all the difference. I packed the rifle but not our spotting scope so we picked up a little 10x monocular at Walmart because better than nothing. A guy two lanes over had a nice rifle set up with a big scope. He said "you're shooting too low". Need to come up (he guessed) about 2 MOA. Okay. 8 clicks.
Boom. Ding! sra blaster gets behind the rifle. Boom. Ding! Boom. Ding! Boom. Ding!
We were shooting 3 rounds at a time.
So then to 400 yards.
Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2025 07:57 PM (RoO7G)
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@ RI Red, I just checked the load data I use for the 6.5-06. Interestingly enough, the speed I'm getting lines up with the load data pretty well.
However, with the 30.06, I'm definitely running faster than the load data says I should.
However, with the 30.06, I'm definitely running faster than the load data says I should.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 13, 2025 07:58 PM (tT6L1)
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Blaster - agreed. A good spotter makes all the difference.
I can’t tell you how many rounds I’ve wasted by not being able to see trace or splash.
I can’t tell you how many rounds I’ve wasted by not being able to see trace or splash.
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 08:01 PM (ZbDxc)
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Ed L I think most of my 54R came out of Ukraine, and several of my Mosins - they have the scuba-like flag cartouche in the stocks. Little box with a diagonal line in it. I remember when that party really got started (2014, not 2022) there was a break in the flow of imports - and was easy to find pics of Uke “militia” types with Mosins.
I think the Bulgarian and Romanian stocks are played out, but noticed currently there’s a bunch of Czech surplus on the market.
I think the Bulgarian and Romanian stocks are played out, but noticed currently there’s a bunch of Czech surplus on the market.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 13, 2025 08:03 PM (1m82a)
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Aside: if you are reminded to do the things that weasel says to do, and you do them, are you more likely to get positive shooting results? Asking for a friend.
Shooting at the 400 make an adjustment to the up down in the scope (in accordance with the prophecy) and shoot at the 400 yard steel. Boom. Ding! Boom. Ding! Yada yada yada.
it got routine so Sra blaster says I'm bored let's go shoot something else.
Shooting at the 400 make an adjustment to the up down in the scope (in accordance with the prophecy) and shoot at the 400 yard steel. Boom. Ding! Boom. Ding! Yada yada yada.
it got routine so Sra blaster says I'm bored let's go shoot something else.
Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2025 08:05 PM (RoO7G)
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While in the army, my dad worked on the West range of Fort Huachuca on drones. These were prop based drones of about 20 or so feet long launched with JATO units.They were the first to put a TV camera (it weighed just over 100 pounds) in a drone.
On one Armed Forces Day, they drove the launcher onto a field about 20 yards in front of the public bleachers, sprung up the prop and launched it with the JATO units.
On one Armed Forces Day, they drove the launcher onto a field about 20 yards in front of the public bleachers, sprung up the prop and launched it with the JATO units.
Posted by: SMOD at July 13, 2025 08:05 PM (GITLP)
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Oh, the cartouche I mentioned indicates the rifles were “re-arsenaled” at the Soviet facility in He Ukrainian SSR.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 13, 2025 08:05 PM (1m82a)
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Blaster, ballistics tables are your friend.
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 08:06 PM (ZbDxc)
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Top 100?
On vaycay in central New Hampshire visiting relatives so no shewtin. Going to have to reload a bunch to make the Cowboy shoot the Sunday we get back, though.
Have a great week everyone and thank you to Weasel!
On vaycay in central New Hampshire visiting relatives so no shewtin. Going to have to reload a bunch to make the Cowboy shoot the Sunday we get back, though.
Have a great week everyone and thank you to Weasel!
Posted by: Coelacanth at July 13, 2025 08:07 PM (VWFmc)
Posted by: andycanuck at July 13, 2025 08:07 PM (2yoRf)
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SMOD, that’s an awesome kind of demo (JATO thing) from the time men were men, and ‘merica, eff yeah was the cultural norm!
Posted by: rhomboid at July 13, 2025 08:08 PM (1m82a)
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We are outside. Mid day in July in SC. The sun is...bright.
We went to one of the outdoor pistol bays. It had steel targets. We did mag dumps with the EP9. With 27 round mags. Fun! The red dot in that hot summer sun was just barely visible.
My red dot fanboyism is getting stuffed in the locker.
We went to one of the outdoor pistol bays. It had steel targets. We did mag dumps with the EP9. With 27 round mags. Fun! The red dot in that hot summer sun was just barely visible.
My red dot fanboyism is getting stuffed in the locker.
Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2025 08:08 PM (RoO7G)
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My retirement contract specifies 45 vacation days per year. Been using the wedge grip for over 20 years. Has worked well especially with compact carry pistols.
Posted by: KDKong at July 13, 2025 08:09 PM (Bc40B)
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98 Blaster, ballistics tables are your friend.
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 08:06 PM (ZbDxc)
If only weasel had told me this earlier!
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 08:06 PM (ZbDxc)
If only weasel had told me this earlier!
Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2025 08:10 PM (RoO7G)
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Hey, Weasel, I'm late to the game as always. Congratulations on retirement and vacation. Taking Daughter #2 to the range soon to start getting her properly equipped for her new apartment on the other side of the tracks.
Posted by: JSpicy at July 13, 2025 08:10 PM (C7Yya)
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Blaster, ballistics tables are your friend.
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 08:06 PM (ZbDxc)
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heh. Yeah, I have to go out and get some new data for the 3.06 on the 500 meter range. It's always something.
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 08:06 PM (ZbDxc)
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heh. Yeah, I have to go out and get some new data for the 3.06 on the 500 meter range. It's always something.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 13, 2025 08:10 PM (tT6L1)
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85 Selling some 54R to another RO at the club. Back when it was cheap (this is Bulgarian surplus) I stacked it high and can easily spare it. Will pay for more 45 and 30 carbine bullets, which thanks to resumed production at the bench are nearly out. Will also cover some new electronic muffs I just got.
Posted by: rhomboid
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Berry Bullets did have some plated 30 Carbine awhile back. Those kind of fit in the middle of as lead is usually a pita for cleaning in gas operated carbines but the plated usually have pedestrian accuracy in rifles (deform more easily from pressure) than fmj, or half jacketed types.
This week has been all about cleaning up and my reloading station and gun parts are all sorted. Still have some work to do on gun boxes, etc.
If I am lucky, I will be able to get back into repairing/finishing the couple of projects that I have left. One is finishing an 1886/93 Lebel, another is restocking a Lithgow SMLE converted to 410. I will probably have the chamber lengthened on the 410 so as to fire regular 410 shells instead of the midget and hard to get ones.
That particular task will go to a gunsmith.
Found a bunch of magazines for ARs and M1 Carbines too
Posted by: rhomboid
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Berry Bullets did have some plated 30 Carbine awhile back. Those kind of fit in the middle of as lead is usually a pita for cleaning in gas operated carbines but the plated usually have pedestrian accuracy in rifles (deform more easily from pressure) than fmj, or half jacketed types.
This week has been all about cleaning up and my reloading station and gun parts are all sorted. Still have some work to do on gun boxes, etc.
If I am lucky, I will be able to get back into repairing/finishing the couple of projects that I have left. One is finishing an 1886/93 Lebel, another is restocking a Lithgow SMLE converted to 410. I will probably have the chamber lengthened on the 410 so as to fire regular 410 shells instead of the midget and hard to get ones.
That particular task will go to a gunsmith.
Found a bunch of magazines for ARs and M1 Carbines too
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:11 PM (ctrM5)
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We were in the bay with ourselves and we could shoot at the same time which was cool.
And Sra blaster got to try out some of her John Wick CAR technique. Which was also cool.
We had a great time. Spent over 3 hours there we definitely got our moneys worth!
And Sra blaster got to try out some of her John Wick CAR technique. Which was also cool.
We had a great time. Spent over 3 hours there we definitely got our moneys worth!
Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2025 08:12 PM (RoO7G)
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A lot of things really surprised me about Champion Defense, but the main thing was that it was not crowded. If it was in the DC area it probably would have a year waiting list.
Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2025 08:14 PM (RoO7G)
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Posted by: JSpicy at July 13, 2025 08:10 PM (C7Yya)
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Nice, brother! Please let us know how it goes!!
Posted by: JSpicy at July 13, 2025 08:10 PM (C7Yya)
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Nice, brother! Please let us know how it goes!!
Posted by: Weasel at July 13, 2025 08:15 PM (rAX2y)
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Hey Morons.
No gun updates, apart from losing an auction for a M&P 2.0 Compact in .45. I wanted. But not enough to pay attention to the auction, apparently. Got sniped in the last few minutes by ten fucking bucks.
Still pissed.
Anyway, went for a drive yesterday instead of the range, 405 was closed down so wasn't worth the drama. But next week, we'll put rounds down range again, probably with my church gun which is working well for a Summer EDC.
No gun updates, apart from losing an auction for a M&P 2.0 Compact in .45. I wanted. But not enough to pay attention to the auction, apparently. Got sniped in the last few minutes by ten fucking bucks.
Still pissed.
Anyway, went for a drive yesterday instead of the range, 405 was closed down so wasn't worth the drama. But next week, we'll put rounds down range again, probably with my church gun which is working well for a Summer EDC.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 13, 2025 08:15 PM (xcxpd)
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Range report this week: The frickin' flood at our property "rearranged" some of my gun range equipment and the shooting stand.
I built it at an elevation just below the 100 year flood contour. The water is usually fairly placid when it floods to that elevation. However, things that float did get moved!
It was merely a flesh-wound though, all is easily fixable.
I built it at an elevation just below the 100 year flood contour. The water is usually fairly placid when it floods to that elevation. However, things that float did get moved!
It was merely a flesh-wound though, all is easily fixable.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 13, 2025 08:15 PM (HlyYF)
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Had a fun conversation at the local gun range yesterday. Another CA expat has moved to our area. Obviously a man of taste and discernment because he promptly became a member of our local range.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 13, 2025 08:15 PM (tT6L1)
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whig I am eyeing the plated 30C bullets as they’re 30% cheaper than FMJ. As I aspire only to practical accuracy (minute-of-human-torso @150yds), it’s tempting to cheap out. Online research seems to show most guys find the plated to have good performance in the little M1.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 13, 2025 08:17 PM (tmGxn)
Posted by: Rancherbob at July 13, 2025 08:17 PM (cQ2Ty)
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Re grip, I have always used a wedge grip. I am not trying to get gilt edge target accuracy which is also why I use a crush tight hold as well (well, nowadays semi crush is about all I can do).
The wedge grip allows for use on a variety of pistol types and is excellent from the point of weapons retention. And it can be consistently applied to smaller as well as larger pistols. I used a S&W 6946 as an understudy to my 5946/43/44 Third Generation and it worked fine for DAO only. One of the tricks to shooting revolvers and/or DA/SA or DAO with 8lb + triggers is the crush hold with a wedge grip.
Not crazy about the wedge/crush on a 1911 but since I shoot that rarely, doesn't matter much. Works okay on the smaller BHP.
The wedge grip allows for use on a variety of pistol types and is excellent from the point of weapons retention. And it can be consistently applied to smaller as well as larger pistols. I used a S&W 6946 as an understudy to my 5946/43/44 Third Generation and it worked fine for DAO only. One of the tricks to shooting revolvers and/or DA/SA or DAO with 8lb + triggers is the crush hold with a wedge grip.
Not crazy about the wedge/crush on a 1911 but since I shoot that rarely, doesn't matter much. Works okay on the smaller BHP.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:18 PM (ctrM5)
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Plutonium bars, 3 for a dollar!
Posted by: toby928 at July 13, 2025 08:19 PM (EE2rW)
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Blaster - agreed. A good spotter makes all the difference.
I can’t tell you how many rounds I’ve wasted by not being able to see trace or splash.
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 08:01 PM
Red, you'll be pleased to hear that my buddy who was with us in NH has been certified for the use of his club's long distance range, and is determined to come to TX next year "come hell or high water". I think we have a Moron, here.
I can’t tell you how many rounds I’ve wasted by not being able to see trace or splash.
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 08:01 PM
Red, you'll be pleased to hear that my buddy who was with us in NH has been certified for the use of his club's long distance range, and is determined to come to TX next year "come hell or high water". I think we have a Moron, here.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 13, 2025 08:21 PM (Wnv9h)
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I do need some expert advice for shooting at the next TXMoMe.
If I am shooting at the 1,000 yard steel with y'all, and using a 16" battleship gun, how close to the target do I need to actually place my shot to make the steel ring?
Because under my NEW plan, I may be able to ring steel with the best of you!
If I am shooting at the 1,000 yard steel with y'all, and using a 16" battleship gun, how close to the target do I need to actually place my shot to make the steel ring?
Because under my NEW plan, I may be able to ring steel with the best of you!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 13, 2025 08:21 PM (HlyYF)
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114 whig I am eyeing the plated 30C bullets as they’re 30% cheaper than FMJ. As I aspire only to practical accuracy (minute-of-human-torso @150yds), it’s tempting to cheap out. Online research seems to show most guys find the plated to have good performance in the little M1.
Posted by: rhomboid
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The M1 is on the borderline as far as pressure deformation. FWIW, Lee Reloading Manuals actually has an excellent section dealing with bullet deformation due to pressure so you can tailor reduced loads to work with cast bullets (it is adjacent to the bullet casting chapter). Your groups open up at the point of the bullet base becoming deformed from pressure and Lee's formula cuts down on the trial and error of finding a good cast load. Would probably work on plated as well with mebbe a tweak.
You notice the deformation effects a bit more with 7.62x39 reloads as the pressure is a tad higher on those.
Posted by: rhomboid
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The M1 is on the borderline as far as pressure deformation. FWIW, Lee Reloading Manuals actually has an excellent section dealing with bullet deformation due to pressure so you can tailor reduced loads to work with cast bullets (it is adjacent to the bullet casting chapter). Your groups open up at the point of the bullet base becoming deformed from pressure and Lee's formula cuts down on the trial and error of finding a good cast load. Would probably work on plated as well with mebbe a tweak.
You notice the deformation effects a bit more with 7.62x39 reloads as the pressure is a tad higher on those.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:22 PM (ctrM5)
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and several of my Mosins - they have the scuba-like flag cartouche in the stocks.
That's an arsenal refinished mark.
That's an arsenal refinished mark.
Posted by: toby928 at July 13, 2025 08:22 PM (EE2rW)
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Howdy, Rancherbob!
Please do NOT read my comment at #119.
(Unless you were planning on putting in a few more water tanks for your cattle.)
Please do NOT read my comment at #119.
(Unless you were planning on putting in a few more water tanks for your cattle.)
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 13, 2025 08:23 PM (HlyYF)
Posted by: Weasel at July 13, 2025 08:23 PM (rAX2y)
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Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2025 08:12 PM (RoO7G)
Sounds like you enjoyed yourselves. Planning on stopping by there again?
Sounds like you enjoyed yourselves. Planning on stopping by there again?
Posted by: Ed L at July 13, 2025 08:24 PM (BCwQW)
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Mark,
That 2.0 compact is not that big. Have you ever shot it in .45 caliber? Does that make it snappy, or is it more of a slow, steady kick that you can readily handle?
That 2.0 compact is not that big. Have you ever shot it in .45 caliber? Does that make it snappy, or is it more of a slow, steady kick that you can readily handle?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 13, 2025 08:25 PM (HlyYF)
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111 Hey Morons.
No gun updates, apart from losing an auction for a M&P 2.0 Compact in .45. I wanted. But not enough to pay attention to the auction, apparently. Got sniped in the last few minutes by ten fucking bucks.
Still pissed.
Anyway, went for a drive yesterday instead of the range, 405 was closed down so wasn't worth the drama. But next week, we'll put rounds down range again, probably with my church gun which is working well for a Summer EDC.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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MAE, what are you carrying currently?
Have been out as much as a bear in hibernation recently but doc visits are beginning to taper off and my back has loosened up a bit allowing enough range of motion to draw mebbe. Thinking about carrying my XDS 9 again or my 6946 (worried a bit about the weight though.
No gun updates, apart from losing an auction for a M&P 2.0 Compact in .45. I wanted. But not enough to pay attention to the auction, apparently. Got sniped in the last few minutes by ten fucking bucks.
Still pissed.
Anyway, went for a drive yesterday instead of the range, 405 was closed down so wasn't worth the drama. But next week, we'll put rounds down range again, probably with my church gun which is working well for a Summer EDC.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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MAE, what are you carrying currently?
Have been out as much as a bear in hibernation recently but doc visits are beginning to taper off and my back has loosened up a bit allowing enough range of motion to draw mebbe. Thinking about carrying my XDS 9 again or my 6946 (worried a bit about the weight though.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:25 PM (ctrM5)
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Dang it, just got the dinner bell.
Will have to come back later to get the latest gub happenings with you Morons.
Will have to come back later to get the latest gub happenings with you Morons.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 13, 2025 08:26 PM (HlyYF)
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102 We are outside. Mid day in July in SC. The sun is...bright.
We went to one of the outdoor pistol bays. It had steel targets. We did mag dumps with the EP9. With 27 round mags. Fun! The red dot in that hot summer sun was just barely visible.
My red dot fanboyism is getting stuffed in the locker.
Posted by: blaster
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Green dot? I think Leupold used an amber chevron on theirs.
We went to one of the outdoor pistol bays. It had steel targets. We did mag dumps with the EP9. With 27 round mags. Fun! The red dot in that hot summer sun was just barely visible.
My red dot fanboyism is getting stuffed in the locker.
Posted by: blaster
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Green dot? I think Leupold used an amber chevron on theirs.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:26 PM (ctrM5)
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OK, I know it's early and all, but I had a long 3 days, with a long two weeks before that (with the a/c out). I'm going to take a break before the ONT, then read that and to bed.
Thanks, Weasel, for the thread!
Thanks, everyone else for being your usual great selves!
And I miss everyone who isn't here.
Thanks, Weasel, for the thread!
Thanks, everyone else for being your usual great selves!
And I miss everyone who isn't here.
Posted by: GWB at July 13, 2025 08:27 PM (IKydn)
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Sounds like you enjoyed yourselves. Planning on stopping by there again?
Posted by: Ed L at July 13, 2025 08:24 PM (BCwQW)
Definitely. Can't get there enough to make membership pencil out but a $30 day pass is a bargain!
Posted by: Ed L at July 13, 2025 08:24 PM (BCwQW)
Definitely. Can't get there enough to make membership pencil out but a $30 day pass is a bargain!
Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2025 08:28 PM (RoO7G)
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95 Aside: if you are reminded to do the things that weasel says to do, and you do them, are you more likely to get positive shooting results? Asking for a friend.
Shooting at the 400 make an adjustment to the up down in the scope (in accordance with the prophecy) and shoot at the 400 yard steel. Boom. Ding! Boom. Ding! Yada yada yada.
it got routine so Sra blaster says I'm bored let's go shoot something else.
Posted by: blaster
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Go hunting. Humbling for most folks. Another is long range 100-150 yd with a 22 LR. That is a cheap way to challenge oneself on an outdoor range. Past 50yds, you end up getting extended bullet drop and you have to read wind just like from long shots from a centerfire.
Shooting at the 400 make an adjustment to the up down in the scope (in accordance with the prophecy) and shoot at the 400 yard steel. Boom. Ding! Boom. Ding! Yada yada yada.
it got routine so Sra blaster says I'm bored let's go shoot something else.
Posted by: blaster
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Go hunting. Humbling for most folks. Another is long range 100-150 yd with a 22 LR. That is a cheap way to challenge oneself on an outdoor range. Past 50yds, you end up getting extended bullet drop and you have to read wind just like from long shots from a centerfire.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:29 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 13, 2025 08:30 PM (Wnv9h)
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Thanks, Weasel, for the thread!
Thanks, everyone else for being your usual great selves!
And I miss everyone who isn't here.
Posted by: GWB
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Well, I can entertain myself I guess. LOL, have a good week GWB.
Thanks, everyone else for being your usual great selves!
And I miss everyone who isn't here.
Posted by: GWB
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Well, I can entertain myself I guess. LOL, have a good week GWB.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:30 PM (ctrM5)
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I have a choice of two materials, aluminum or steel and I have a choice of ring heights, low, standard, medium, high and EX-high.
What does one choose? Buy now or wait until you have rifle/scope in hand to get an idea? I might even have to get a rifle base to give my more MOA.
Decisions, decisions.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:31 PM
How big is the objective of your chosen scope?
What does one choose? Buy now or wait until you have rifle/scope in hand to get an idea? I might even have to get a rifle base to give my more MOA.
Decisions, decisions.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 13, 2025 07:31 PM
How big is the objective of your chosen scope?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 13, 2025 08:31 PM (0sNs1)
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Green dot? I think Leupold used an amber chevron on theirs.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:26 PM (ctrM5)
I don't think the issue was the color necessarily. My EDC has an Sig Romeo 0 and I did not adjust it from my regular brightness and it was visible enough.
The red dot on the EP9 is one of the famous $25 Gaialoops that are discontinued. They can't get bright enough for the summer sun.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:26 PM (ctrM5)
I don't think the issue was the color necessarily. My EDC has an Sig Romeo 0 and I did not adjust it from my regular brightness and it was visible enough.
The red dot on the EP9 is one of the famous $25 Gaialoops that are discontinued. They can't get bright enough for the summer sun.
Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2025 08:31 PM (RoO7G)
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Have been out as much as a bear in hibernation recently but doc visits are beginning to taper off and my back has loosened up a bit allowing enough range of motion to draw mebbe. Thinking about carrying my XDS 9 again or my 6946 (worried a bit about the weight though.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:25 PM (ctrM5)
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Why have I always pictured you surrounded by a personal security detail and lots of hot women?
;-)
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:25 PM (ctrM5)
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Why have I always pictured you surrounded by a personal security detail and lots of hot women?
;-)
Posted by: ShainS at July 13, 2025 08:32 PM (E2cCq)
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If I am shooting at the 1,000 yard steel with y'all, and using a 16" battleship gun, how close to the target do I need to actually place my shot to make the steel ring?
Because under my NEW plan, I may be able to ring steel with the best of you!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 13, 2025 08:21 PM
What charge are you planning on using? (Don't answer, because I once posted the charge weight in grains for a 16" gun, and was excoriated roundly for that.)
Because under my NEW plan, I may be able to ring steel with the best of you!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 13, 2025 08:21 PM
What charge are you planning on using? (Don't answer, because I once posted the charge weight in grains for a 16" gun, and was excoriated roundly for that.)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 13, 2025 08:33 PM (0sNs1)
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Imported ammo (of any caliber) will, if it isn't already, be a casualty of the ongoing tariff wars until those wars are over. Even then, I think the supply of imported ammo will probably stay limited until the war in Ukraine gets settled.
Posted by: Ed L
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Not seeing increase in prices much because I suspect demand is down due to Trump admin and less worry about big gubmint taking guns away.
From my usual suppliers, I am get loads of emailed specials, etc. of ammo that is about on par with the 1st Trump administration prices.
Then again, I don't use old military surplus ammo either if I can at all help it.
Apex Gun Parts has some WWII era German ammo and I think mebbe some Turkish/Greek ammo as well in 8mmx57 Mauser if people are interested.
Posted by: Ed L
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Not seeing increase in prices much because I suspect demand is down due to Trump admin and less worry about big gubmint taking guns away.
From my usual suppliers, I am get loads of emailed specials, etc. of ammo that is about on par with the 1st Trump administration prices.
Then again, I don't use old military surplus ammo either if I can at all help it.
Apex Gun Parts has some WWII era German ammo and I think mebbe some Turkish/Greek ammo as well in 8mmx57 Mauser if people are interested.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:35 PM (ctrM5)
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What charge are you planning on using? (Don't answer, because I once posted the charge weight in grains for a 16" gun, and was excoriated roundly for that.)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 13, 2025 08:33 PM (0sNs1)
What do you expect mathing willy-nilly on the blog like that?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 13, 2025 08:33 PM (0sNs1)
What do you expect mathing willy-nilly on the blog like that?
Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2025 08:36 PM (RoO7G)
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Steel @ 1,000 yards with a 16" inch naval rifle? I think the muzzle blast alone would be sufficient to take care of the plate, at that distance.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 13, 2025 08:36 PM (tT6L1)
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Why have I always pictured you surrounded by a personal security detail and lots of hot women?
;-)
Posted by: ShainS
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I have A Hot woman but she doesn't like to share one bit and is an excellent shot to boot. Both her mother and father were duck hunters par excellence. And he was a helluva shot on all things military or for deer hunting etc.
So I kinda do have a hot female armed security but she is my wife as well.
;-)
Posted by: ShainS
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I have A Hot woman but she doesn't like to share one bit and is an excellent shot to boot. Both her mother and father were duck hunters par excellence. And he was a helluva shot on all things military or for deer hunting etc.
So I kinda do have a hot female armed security but she is my wife as well.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:37 PM (ctrM5)
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Red, you'll be pleased to hear that my buddy who was with us in NH has been certified for the use of his club's long distance range, and is determined to come to TX next year "come hell or high water". I think we have a Moron, here.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 13, 2025 08:21 PM (Wnv9h)
Well, I hope so! We got him out well over 800. He’ll probably surpass us soon.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 13, 2025 08:21 PM (Wnv9h)
Well, I hope so! We got him out well over 800. He’ll probably surpass us soon.
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 08:38 PM (z1SIt)
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I got a new Sig P365 and am signing up for a CCL class next month. The magazine springs are ridiculously hard and I purchased a loader to help out. I can't get more than four rounds to load in the 12 round magazine. When I press down, it's as if there is something blocking it, not just that it's hard to press.
Hopefully you got a Maglula Uplula. You should be able to load them with that. Load it up, and let the mag sit for 2 to 4 weeks. That will ease it a bit.
Hopefully you got a Maglula Uplula. You should be able to load them with that. Load it up, and let the mag sit for 2 to 4 weeks. That will ease it a bit.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 13, 2025 08:39 PM (0sNs1)
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Well, I hope so! We got him out well over 800. He’ll probably surpass us soon.
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 08:38 PM
Good advice and good spotting do wonders. Imagine what some instruction in the Way of the Weasel could do.
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 08:38 PM
Good advice and good spotting do wonders. Imagine what some instruction in the Way of the Weasel could do.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 13, 2025 08:40 PM (Wnv9h)
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I don't think the issue was the color necessarily. My EDC has an Sig Romeo 0 and I did not adjust it from my regular brightness and it was visible enough.
The red dot on the EP9 is one of the famous $25 Gaialoops that are discontinued. They can't get bright enough for the summer sun.
Posted by: blaster
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Ah, I see. I did read where some people had more trouble with red dots than other colors in direct sunlight but it is an individual by individual thing.
I have red dots (and one prismatic on the AR10) on a few of my rifles but none on handguns.
The red dot on the EP9 is one of the famous $25 Gaialoops that are discontinued. They can't get bright enough for the summer sun.
Posted by: blaster
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Ah, I see. I did read where some people had more trouble with red dots than other colors in direct sunlight but it is an individual by individual thing.
I have red dots (and one prismatic on the AR10) on a few of my rifles but none on handguns.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:40 PM (ctrM5)
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When purchasing a Maglula Uplula, purchase it from a local store or reputable Internet dealer, if necessary. There are fakes on eBay and the 'Zon, and they don't work nearly as well.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 13, 2025 08:42 PM (0sNs1)
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Blaster I’m up to 4 lever guns.
My first was a Marlin 45-70 CS - extra long barrel and an 8 round magazine. Heck of a gun for large critters. Weighs about 12 pounds with scope. Second was a Marlin in .35 Remington. Third is a Henry Big Boy in .44 and it’s become my go-to deer gun with Hornady lever gun ammo. Last is an Uberti in .45 Colt for the Cowboy shoots. All are great to use and far more accurate than I am.
My first was a Marlin 45-70 CS - extra long barrel and an 8 round magazine. Heck of a gun for large critters. Weighs about 12 pounds with scope. Second was a Marlin in .35 Remington. Third is a Henry Big Boy in .44 and it’s become my go-to deer gun with Hornady lever gun ammo. Last is an Uberti in .45 Colt for the Cowboy shoots. All are great to use and far more accurate than I am.
Posted by: Coelacanth at July 13, 2025 08:42 PM (3Aazl)
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The lever gun I ordered is in .357. Because I know it will lead to a revolver companion.
I M thinking something like a Ruger Deputy or Vacquero but since that rifle is very non-traditional maybe a Raging Hunter will be a better option
I M thinking something like a Ruger Deputy or Vacquero but since that rifle is very non-traditional maybe a Raging Hunter will be a better option
Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2025 08:45 PM (RoO7G)
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Running at about 150 comments, and NOONE have commented on the big change this week.
What? you say? Prithee, Duncanthrax, spill the tea.
Alright, since y'all asked nicely, I will.
There is NO remonstrance from Weasel about Fundamentals!
Nor is there an exhortation to purchase more ammo.
I'm not sure retirement is have a salubrious effect upon Weasel-san.
We shall see.
What? you say? Prithee, Duncanthrax, spill the tea.
Alright, since y'all asked nicely, I will.
There is NO remonstrance from Weasel about Fundamentals!
Nor is there an exhortation to purchase more ammo.
I'm not sure retirement is have a salubrious effect upon Weasel-san.
We shall see.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 13, 2025 08:45 PM (0sNs1)
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146 When purchasing a Maglula Uplula, purchase it from a local store or reputable Internet dealer, if necessary. There are fakes on eBay and the 'Zon, and they don't work nearly as well.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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Good advice.
While cleaning my reloading/gun room today, I found an AR clip spoon for reloading AR magazines on clips (like they used to come with back in the day).
Another spoon still had the clip inside the spoon.
Your hands can get sore pretty quickly without mechanical assistance on loading magazines and range time is too expensive for most of us to do it at the range.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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Good advice.
While cleaning my reloading/gun room today, I found an AR clip spoon for reloading AR magazines on clips (like they used to come with back in the day).
Another spoon still had the clip inside the spoon.
Your hands can get sore pretty quickly without mechanical assistance on loading magazines and range time is too expensive for most of us to do it at the range.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:45 PM (ctrM5)
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Blaster, what Whig said about shooting .22 at 200 + yards. Very humbling, and is a good stand in for larger calibers at longer range.
Plus, it is very gratifying to hear a tiny little “tink” when you get a hit. Though it takes several seconds and you need to turn your hearing aids up a bit.
Plus, it is very gratifying to hear a tiny little “tink” when you get a hit. Though it takes several seconds and you need to turn your hearing aids up a bit.
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 08:45 PM (z1SIt)
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125 Mark,
That 2.0 compact is not that big. Have you ever shot it in .45 caliber? Does that make it snappy, or is it more of a slow, steady kick that you can readily handle?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 13, 2025 08:25 PM (HlyYF)
I WANT a G19 sized .45 so badly. (This is a recent desire, I realize)
I've fired the M&P 45 full size and I have an XD45 compact (and a G30), so I would love something in between size. Another reason is that I can actually buy this gun in WA state.
That 2.0 compact is not that big. Have you ever shot it in .45 caliber? Does that make it snappy, or is it more of a slow, steady kick that you can readily handle?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 13, 2025 08:25 PM (HlyYF)
I WANT a G19 sized .45 so badly. (This is a recent desire, I realize)
I've fired the M&P 45 full size and I have an XD45 compact (and a G30), so I would love something in between size. Another reason is that I can actually buy this gun in WA state.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 13, 2025 08:48 PM (xcxpd)
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have = having
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 13, 2025 08:48 PM (0sNs1)
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I was thinking that given the kind of cyberpunk look of the Hugtek rifle (imported and sold by G-Force) a Chiappa Rhino would make a nice sidearm but they are spendy.
Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2025 08:49 PM (RoO7G)
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Coelacanth I think we have the same Uberti lever - Model 1866? Don’t do action shoots with it but imagine it’s a bit unwieldy - weighs a ton.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 13, 2025 08:49 PM (tmGxn)
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148 The lever gun I ordered is in .357. Because I know it will lead to a revolver companion.
I M thinking something like a Ruger Deputy or Vacquero but since that rifle is very non-traditional maybe a Raging Hunter will be a better option
Posted by: blaster
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On a 357, I am not a fan of Taurus barrel porting as ported barrels are pretty obnoxious noisewise (nasty especially on indoor ranges) and not really needed much for recoil control. I can see it for a 44 Magnum and such.
If you plan on the 357 being a Florida bush gun, you could do far worse than a Stainless Steel Vacquero.
The fact that you have to thumb the hammer back to fire deliberately makes them a bit safer if you are getting into brush and Ruger's transfer bar safety helps you carry six in the chamber safely.
I M thinking something like a Ruger Deputy or Vacquero but since that rifle is very non-traditional maybe a Raging Hunter will be a better option
Posted by: blaster
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On a 357, I am not a fan of Taurus barrel porting as ported barrels are pretty obnoxious noisewise (nasty especially on indoor ranges) and not really needed much for recoil control. I can see it for a 44 Magnum and such.
If you plan on the 357 being a Florida bush gun, you could do far worse than a Stainless Steel Vacquero.
The fact that you have to thumb the hammer back to fire deliberately makes them a bit safer if you are getting into brush and Ruger's transfer bar safety helps you carry six in the chamber safely.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:50 PM (ctrM5)
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MAE, what are you carrying currently?
Have been out as much as a bear in hibernation recently but doc visits are beginning to taper off and my back has loosened up a bit allowing enough range of motion to draw mebbe. Thinking about carrying my XDS 9 again or my 6946 (worried a bit about the weight though.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:25 PM (ctrM5)
My church gun (and EDC) is a PSA Micro Dagger. Basically a G43x. Mine has a Holosun on it, with real PSA magazines, it holds 15 rounds and it's smaller and thinner than a G26. I'm just under 1k rounds through it and it's working well.
The XD9 will be back once jacket weather comes back.
Have been out as much as a bear in hibernation recently but doc visits are beginning to taper off and my back has loosened up a bit allowing enough range of motion to draw mebbe. Thinking about carrying my XDS 9 again or my 6946 (worried a bit about the weight though.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:25 PM (ctrM5)
My church gun (and EDC) is a PSA Micro Dagger. Basically a G43x. Mine has a Holosun on it, with real PSA magazines, it holds 15 rounds and it's smaller and thinner than a G26. I'm just under 1k rounds through it and it's working well.
The XD9 will be back once jacket weather comes back.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 13, 2025 08:51 PM (xcxpd)
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I have A Hot woman but she doesn't like to share one bit and is an excellent shot to boot. Both her mother and father were duck hunters par excellence. And he was a helluva shot on all things military or for deer hunting etc.
So I kinda do have a hot female armed security but she is my wife as well.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:37 PM (ctrM5)
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SWEET!
Would love to meet you both sometime (the wifey and I will be at this year's TX MoMe).
So I kinda do have a hot female armed security but she is my wife as well.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:37 PM (ctrM5)
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SWEET!
Would love to meet you both sometime (the wifey and I will be at this year's TX MoMe).
Posted by: ShainS at July 13, 2025 08:52 PM (E2cCq)
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I WANT a G19 sized .45 so badly. (This is a recent desire, I realize)
I've fired the M&P 45 full size and I have an XD45 compact (and a G30), so I would love something in between size. Another reason is that I can actually buy this gun in WA state.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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You wanting an M&P 1.0 or 2.0 in that? Aim Surplus did have a bunch of M&P 1.0 used cop guns (4.25 barrel, I think) but in 45 ACP. CDNN may have some as well.
I've fired the M&P 45 full size and I have an XD45 compact (and a G30), so I would love something in between size. Another reason is that I can actually buy this gun in WA state.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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You wanting an M&P 1.0 or 2.0 in that? Aim Surplus did have a bunch of M&P 1.0 used cop guns (4.25 barrel, I think) but in 45 ACP. CDNN may have some as well.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:52 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 13, 2025 08:53 PM (tT6L1)
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Have you ever shot it in .45 caliber? Does that make it snappy, or is it more of a slow, steady kick that you can readily handle?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 13, 2025 08:25 PM (HlyYF)
Oh on the recoil question, the M&P 45 full size is mild for recoil. I expect it will be very tolerable. But I kinda have to buy this blind (if I can even get it) as the M&P Compact 2.0 .45 is damn hard to find...no rental copies around.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 13, 2025 08:25 PM (HlyYF)
Oh on the recoil question, the M&P 45 full size is mild for recoil. I expect it will be very tolerable. But I kinda have to buy this blind (if I can even get it) as the M&P Compact 2.0 .45 is damn hard to find...no rental copies around.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 13, 2025 08:53 PM (xcxpd)
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SWEET!
Would love to meet you both sometime (the wifey and I will be at this year's TX MoMe).
Posted by: ShainS
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I am hoping depending on wife's schedule as she would have to do most of the driving. I am simply not able to handle more than 4-5 hours driving anymore without severe back pain. TX is a very long drive for us.
Would love to meet you both sometime (the wifey and I will be at this year's TX MoMe).
Posted by: ShainS
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I am hoping depending on wife's schedule as she would have to do most of the driving. I am simply not able to handle more than 4-5 hours driving anymore without severe back pain. TX is a very long drive for us.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:54 PM (ctrM5)
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You wanting an M&P 1.0 or 2.0 in that? Aim Surplus did have a bunch of M&P 1.0 used cop guns (4.25 barrel, I think) but in 45 ACP. CDNN may have some as well.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:52 PM (ctrM5)
Looking for the 2.0, for the G19 size and the improved trigger.
I do have an M&P 1.0 compact, it is size and functionally identical to a Taurus G3c. Very good for fanny pack carry.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:52 PM (ctrM5)
Looking for the 2.0, for the G19 size and the improved trigger.
I do have an M&P 1.0 compact, it is size and functionally identical to a Taurus G3c. Very good for fanny pack carry.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 13, 2025 08:55 PM (xcxpd)
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So I kinda do have a hot female armed security but she is my wife as well.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:37 PM (ctrM5)
This is the way
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:37 PM (ctrM5)
This is the way
Posted by: blaster at July 13, 2025 08:55 PM (RoO7G)
165
That Highway Patrol episode - my grandpa - dad's dad - was a CHP from '32-'36, rode one of those giant Harleys. He was a big guy, 6'5" looked like a real bad arse in those tall boots, puffy riding pants and leather jacket.
Posted by: Clarence at July 13, 2025 08:56 PM (yfCJb)
166
Went to the gun range today for the 3rd time (monthly women's shooting class.) Shot about 75 rounds. Had the used shell fail to eject twice (not sure I am using the right terminology.) This has not happened to me before. Same brand of ammo (Herter's 9mm 115 grain) and same gun (Glock 43.) Not sure if I am doing something different/wrong when loading it? Worked on re-acquiring the target in the sights right away after each shot. Have been working to increase my hand strength with a grip/forearm strengthening device and I can see a difference.
Posted by: Frankie at July 13, 2025 08:56 PM (oLhV3)
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Running at about 150 comments, and NOONE have commented on the big change this week.
What? you say? Prithee, Duncanthrax, spill the tea.
Alright, since y'all asked nicely, I will.
There is NO remonstrance from Weasel about Fundamentals!
Nor is there an exhortation to purchase more ammo.
I'm not sure retirement is have a salubrious effect upon Weasel-san.
We shall see.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 13, 2025 08:45 PM (0sNs1)
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And...buy more cigars!!!
What? you say? Prithee, Duncanthrax, spill the tea.
Alright, since y'all asked nicely, I will.
There is NO remonstrance from Weasel about Fundamentals!
Nor is there an exhortation to purchase more ammo.
I'm not sure retirement is have a salubrious effect upon Weasel-san.
We shall see.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 13, 2025 08:45 PM (0sNs1)
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And...buy more cigars!!!
Posted by: Diogenes at July 13, 2025 08:56 PM (W/lyH)
Posted by: Weasel at July 13, 2025 08:58 PM (rAX2y)
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Biggest retirement challenge so far is reminding myself I don't need to think about work stuff anymore!
Posted by: Weasel
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Right before I retired, a number of folks counseled me that it would take a year of so to settle into my new life and completely forget about work.
Honestly, I put it all behind me on the last drive home.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 13, 2025
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I was mentally prepared a week or two before -- before I even told my boss I was leaving, that is. I'd been picturing the change for quite a while.
Posted by: Weasel
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Right before I retired, a number of folks counseled me that it would take a year of so to settle into my new life and completely forget about work.
Honestly, I put it all behind me on the last drive home.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 13, 2025
***
I was mentally prepared a week or two before -- before I even told my boss I was leaving, that is. I'd been picturing the change for quite a while.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 09:01 PM (omVj0)
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Had the used shell fail to eject twice (not sure I am using the right terminology.) This has not happened to me before. Same brand of ammo (Herter's 9mm 115 grain) and same gun (Glock 43.) Not sure if I am doing something different/wrong when loading it? Worked on re-acquiring the target in the sights right away after each shot. Have been working to increase my hand strength with a grip/forearm strengthening device and I can see a difference.
Posted by: Frankie at July 13, 2025 08:56 PM
You *may* have an extractor issue, but I doubt it. I suspect the issue is limp wristing. It could also be you don't weigh much.
Try using a little stouter load. The 115 gr. Herter's are pretty soft. Try some 124 gr. or higher, and see if the problem goes away.
Posted by: Frankie at July 13, 2025 08:56 PM
You *may* have an extractor issue, but I doubt it. I suspect the issue is limp wristing. It could also be you don't weigh much.
Try using a little stouter load. The 115 gr. Herter's are pretty soft. Try some 124 gr. or higher, and see if the problem goes away.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 13, 2025 09:01 PM (0sNs1)
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Posted by: Frankie at July 13, 2025 08:56 PM (oLhV3)
Frankie, have you tried different weight ammo (124 grain or 147 grain)? Or a different brand of 115 grain ammo? A lot of 9mm handguns use 124 grain 9mm NATO standard pressure ammo because they're meant to compete for military or police contracts. NATO standard pressure is hotter than US standard pressure ammo. If you can't find a 115, 124 or 147 grain round that works, you might want to try 124 grain 9mm NATO pressure rounds.
Ammo QC/QA can also play a part too.
Frankie, have you tried different weight ammo (124 grain or 147 grain)? Or a different brand of 115 grain ammo? A lot of 9mm handguns use 124 grain 9mm NATO standard pressure ammo because they're meant to compete for military or police contracts. NATO standard pressure is hotter than US standard pressure ammo. If you can't find a 115, 124 or 147 grain round that works, you might want to try 124 grain 9mm NATO pressure rounds.
Ammo QC/QA can also play a part too.
Posted by: Ed L at July 13, 2025 09:05 PM (BCwQW)
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Honestly, I put it all behind me on the last drive home.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 13, 2025
After my husband passed I found that I could not stomach work any longer. I was way past retirement age anyway. I had no trouble putting it behind me. I boxed up the computer and my laptop, sent them back and that was the last time I thought about work.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 13, 2025
After my husband passed I found that I could not stomach work any longer. I was way past retirement age anyway. I had no trouble putting it behind me. I boxed up the computer and my laptop, sent them back and that was the last time I thought about work.
Posted by: Tuna at July 13, 2025 09:08 PM (lJ0H4)
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Blam!
Posted by: TRex - short arms, few words at July 13, 2025 09:08 PM (v/wGm)
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Limp-wristing. Yep, you have to hold the gun in place in order for the recoiling slide to do its job.
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 09:09 PM (z1SIt)
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I am hoping depending on wife's schedule as she would have to do most of the driving. I am simply not able to handle more than 4-5 hours driving anymore without severe back pain. TX is a very long drive for us.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:54 PM (ctrM5)
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MOAR POTENTIAL SWEETNESS!
Indeed, if I was retired we'd drive (still a fairly long hike from Northern AZ) and as much as we hate flying these days, we're going to fly in and out (almost like a homecoming for the wifey who was born and raised in nearby Waco).
Cheers and Ciao!
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 08:54 PM (ctrM5)
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MOAR POTENTIAL SWEETNESS!
Indeed, if I was retired we'd drive (still a fairly long hike from Northern AZ) and as much as we hate flying these days, we're going to fly in and out (almost like a homecoming for the wifey who was born and raised in nearby Waco).
Cheers and Ciao!
Posted by: ShainS at July 13, 2025 09:11 PM (E2cCq)
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Honestly, I put it all behind me on the last drive home.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 13, 2025
After my husband passed I found that I could not stomach work any longer. I was way past retirement age anyway. I had no trouble putting it behind me. I boxed up the computer and my laptop, sent them back and that was the last time I thought about work.
Posted by: Tuna at July 13, 2025
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It's been three months and I haven't even gone back to my old office for a visit. That alone will tell you how much I think about my former work.
They are probably in the middle of the big move to another building anyway -- a large part of why I decided to retire when I did. I'd have had to organize the move in the middle of the hot summer. Uh, no.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 13, 2025
After my husband passed I found that I could not stomach work any longer. I was way past retirement age anyway. I had no trouble putting it behind me. I boxed up the computer and my laptop, sent them back and that was the last time I thought about work.
Posted by: Tuna at July 13, 2025
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It's been three months and I haven't even gone back to my old office for a visit. That alone will tell you how much I think about my former work.
They are probably in the middle of the big move to another building anyway -- a large part of why I decided to retire when I did. I'd have had to organize the move in the middle of the hot summer. Uh, no.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 13, 2025 09:11 PM (omVj0)
177
Modified Weaver stance, with the stiff right arm/bent left arm, helps with many limp wristing scenarios.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 13, 2025 09:11 PM (xcxpd)
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OK, all y'all. 9:13 thank you time!
Thank you for being here tonight and hope to see you again next Sunday!
Thank you for being here tonight and hope to see you again next Sunday!
Posted by: Weasel at July 13, 2025 09:13 PM (rAX2y)
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Thanks Weasel.
If anyone finds a M&P 2.0 Compact in .45, email me!
If anyone finds a M&P 2.0 Compact in .45, email me!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 13, 2025 09:14 PM (xcxpd)
180
It wasn't the plutonium that made our scout troop chaplain a near cripple. It was the lithium that he soaked in once. Yes, he was a submariner.
Posted by: GWB at July 13, 2025 07:28 PM (IKydn)
Ok. I'll bite. Why was he soaked in lithium?
Posted by: GWB at July 13, 2025 07:28 PM (IKydn)
Ok. I'll bite. Why was he soaked in lithium?
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 13, 2025 09:15 PM (/HDaX)
181
Thank you, Boss.
Now, go plant some pine trees!
Now, go plant some pine trees!
Posted by: RI Red at July 13, 2025 09:15 PM (z1SIt)
182
I do have an M&P 1.0 compact, it is size and functionally identical to a Taurus G3c. Very good for fanny pack carry.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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Might be worth a call to S&W itself. Catalog shows discontinued.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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Might be worth a call to S&W itself. Catalog shows discontinued.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 09:16 PM (ctrM5)
183
You might want to get some more magazines. Magazines are an expendable item for any semi-auto pistol, so getting spares is in order. Yes, the springs can be stiff. That's because the springs' tension is what feeds fresh rounds into the chamber. If a magazine is giving you problems you can't handle, don't be afraid to replace it with another one.
Posted by: Ed L at July 13, 2025 07:44 PM (BCwQW)
I'm definitely going to get more.
Posted by: Ed L at July 13, 2025 07:44 PM (BCwQW)
I'm definitely going to get more.
Posted by: windbag at July 13, 2025 09:17 PM (agbau)
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I have not tried a different weight ammo but I will do that. I know that I am not very strong (have a desk job and am over 29) but trying to work on that. Might be a strange question but could ambient temp affect the ammo? It was almost 100 today (very hot for Oregon) and I know that metal can expand/contract based on temp changes. Am still very new to this, before May the last time I shot was literally in 1985.
Posted by: Frankie at July 13, 2025 09:17 PM (oLhV3)
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178 OK, all y'all. 9:13 thank you time!
Thank you for being here tonight and hope to see you again next Sunday!
Posted by: Weasel
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Thanks for you and all that you do. Thanks to the other commenters to this thread as well.
Thank you for being here tonight and hope to see you again next Sunday!
Posted by: Weasel
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Thanks for you and all that you do. Thanks to the other commenters to this thread as well.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 09:20 PM (ctrM5)
186
Right before I retired, a number of folks counseled me that it would take a year of so to settle into my new life and completely forget about work.
Honestly, I put it all behind me on the last drive home.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 13, 2025
Behind me every drive home.
Thanks reminding us that it'll Monday in the morning.
Honestly, I put it all behind me on the last drive home.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 13, 2025
Behind me every drive home.
Thanks reminding us that it'll Monday in the morning.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 13, 2025 09:21 PM (/lPRQ)
187
Thanks for hosting during your vacation, Weasel!
Posted by: Ed L at July 13, 2025 09:21 PM (BCwQW)
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Frankie,
Sometimes my G42 will fail to eject if I am not locking my wrist against the recoil. I’ve had loads of wrist injuries, so it is more comfortable for me to let the pistol bark upwards a bit after a shot. But that causes the failure.
Try locking your wrist and perhaps using a tighter grip.
Sometimes my G42 will fail to eject if I am not locking my wrist against the recoil. I’ve had loads of wrist injuries, so it is more comfortable for me to let the pistol bark upwards a bit after a shot. But that causes the failure.
Try locking your wrist and perhaps using a tighter grip.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 13, 2025 09:22 PM (mT+6a)
189
Focus on fundamentals!
Buy ammo and cigars!
Posted by: Weasel at July 13, 2025 08:58 PM
* points at eyes with index and middle fingers in a 'V' *
* points at Weasel with index and middle finger in a 'V' *
Buy ammo and cigars!
Posted by: Weasel at July 13, 2025 08:58 PM
* points at eyes with index and middle fingers in a 'V' *
* points at Weasel with index and middle finger in a 'V' *
Posted by: The Fourth Shot at July 13, 2025 09:22 PM (Ur9h4)
190
Might be worth a call to S&W itself. Catalog shows discontinued.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 09:16 PM (ctrM5)
I know.
Hence gunbroker.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 09:16 PM (ctrM5)
I know.
Hence gunbroker.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 13, 2025 09:23 PM (xcxpd)
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Posted by: Frankie at July 13, 2025 09:17 PM (oLhV3)
My two cents: I don't think so. Firearms should be able to accommodate any minor expansion brought about in "normal" temperatures Mother Nature can throw at us. If there was an expansion problem, you probably wouldn't be able to chamber the round in the first place.
My two cents: I don't think so. Firearms should be able to accommodate any minor expansion brought about in "normal" temperatures Mother Nature can throw at us. If there was an expansion problem, you probably wouldn't be able to chamber the round in the first place.
Posted by: Ed L at July 13, 2025 09:25 PM (BCwQW)
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184 I have not tried a different weight ammo but I will do that. I know that I am not very strong (have a desk job and am over 29) but trying to work on that. Might be a strange question but could ambient temp affect the ammo? It was almost 100 today (very hot for Oregon) and I know that metal can expand/contract based on temp changes. Am still very new to this, before May the last time I shot was literally in 1985.
Posted by: Frankie
FWIW, temperature usually ends up spiking pressures with the cheap powder used in range ammo. Try some std. Federal, Winchester, Speer, range ammo. As Ed L says above, extraction problems can be related to the extractor, the recoil impulse generated by firing the cartridge, magazine spring too weak, the recoil spring in the firearm, and whether the chamber is dirty.
You can also have some issues with ammo selection that one pistol will shoot just fine while others will not.
One last thing, I would make sure that the Herters is not steel cased as that can cause problems in certain firearms as well. Steel cased ammo does not expand as much as brass and so often it does not seal the chamber completely allowing carbon fouling.
Posted by: Frankie
FWIW, temperature usually ends up spiking pressures with the cheap powder used in range ammo. Try some std. Federal, Winchester, Speer, range ammo. As Ed L says above, extraction problems can be related to the extractor, the recoil impulse generated by firing the cartridge, magazine spring too weak, the recoil spring in the firearm, and whether the chamber is dirty.
You can also have some issues with ammo selection that one pistol will shoot just fine while others will not.
One last thing, I would make sure that the Herters is not steel cased as that can cause problems in certain firearms as well. Steel cased ammo does not expand as much as brass and so often it does not seal the chamber completely allowing carbon fouling.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 09:26 PM (ctrM5)
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I know some Herter's is steel cased. Generally, that shouldn't be a problem but some guns can be finicky. Definitely try a few different brands/weights of ammo.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 13, 2025 09:27 PM (/y8xj)
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I know.
Hence gunbroker.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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You might be able to fit a 4.0 Slide on a full size M&P frame. I know that is true about the 4.25 and 5 inch slides in the M&P. They are interchangeable.
FWIW, if the trigger on your 1.0 is objectionable, there are some decent aftermarket triggers nowadays.
Gunbusters or Everygunpart have quite a bit from destroyed firearms including full slides, etc.
Hence gunbroker.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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You might be able to fit a 4.0 Slide on a full size M&P frame. I know that is true about the 4.25 and 5 inch slides in the M&P. They are interchangeable.
FWIW, if the trigger on your 1.0 is objectionable, there are some decent aftermarket triggers nowadays.
Gunbusters or Everygunpart have quite a bit from destroyed firearms including full slides, etc.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 09:28 PM (ctrM5)
195
Bayonne, NJ? That ain’t nothin’! When the new Henry repro factory got going, they were located in Brooklyn. Yes, that Brooklyn. They have since started another facility in Wisconsin iirc.
I like my .357 but it weighs a ton and a half. Very accurate and fun to shoot however. No tin can, the marauding bastards that they are, is safe around me.
I like my .357 but it weighs a ton and a half. Very accurate and fun to shoot however. No tin can, the marauding bastards that they are, is safe around me.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 13, 2025 09:30 PM (yFlgz)
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I thought I read somewhere, any ammunition that gets exposed to direct sunlight, and gets hot, the pressures will spike to a considerable … degree
Posted by: Common Tater at July 13, 2025 09:32 PM (I/Icm)
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193 I know some Herter's is steel cased. Generally, that shouldn't be a problem but some guns can be finicky. Definitely try a few different brands/weights of ammo.
Posted by: Oddbob
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The problem with steel is usually fouling. Unless you are firing thousands of rounds of it, it is rare that it wears an ejector and extractor enough to damage those.
Some crazy dudes used to even reload steel cases from WWII (45 ACP if I remember). The major problem with it- according to them was it could damage your reloading dies if you did not lube every case and required muscle to taper crimp the bullet back in place. It can also rust which is the major bad thing about steel cases.
Posted by: Oddbob
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The problem with steel is usually fouling. Unless you are firing thousands of rounds of it, it is rare that it wears an ejector and extractor enough to damage those.
Some crazy dudes used to even reload steel cases from WWII (45 ACP if I remember). The major problem with it- according to them was it could damage your reloading dies if you did not lube every case and required muscle to taper crimp the bullet back in place. It can also rust which is the major bad thing about steel cases.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 09:32 PM (ctrM5)
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196 I thought I read somewhere, any ammunition that gets exposed to direct sunlight, and gets hot, the pressures will spike to a considerable … degree
Posted by: Common Tater
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It can. Expensive canister powders like for self defense (and reloading) have broad temperature curves from frigid to Sahara desert. But cheapo range stuff or careless reloading up to the red pressure line can actually change the pressure curve/burning rate to cause problems if left in direct sunlight and it is hot enough.
Too much to discuss how hot and humid temperature storage affects long term powder stability but it does not help it at all.
Posted by: Common Tater
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It can. Expensive canister powders like for self defense (and reloading) have broad temperature curves from frigid to Sahara desert. But cheapo range stuff or careless reloading up to the red pressure line can actually change the pressure curve/burning rate to cause problems if left in direct sunlight and it is hot enough.
Too much to discuss how hot and humid temperature storage affects long term powder stability but it does not help it at all.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 09:35 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 13, 2025 09:37 PM (Wnv9h)
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According to the National Park Service, whale sightings typically peak in late summer and are lowest during the late fall and winter as the mammals migrate to warmer environments. Anyone with information detailing how whale #2583 was injured is encouraged to contact rangers at 907-697-2230.
Posted by: SMOD at July 13, 2025 09:37 PM (GITLP)
201
Raining very lightly here right now.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 13, 2025 09:38 PM (D91Jg)
202
ow
Posted by: whale #2583 at July 13, 2025 09:38 PM (i0F8b)
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Hegseth tears up red tape, orders Pentagon to begin drone surge at Trump's command
Hegseth orders commanders to treat small drones as consumable weapons rather than high-end aircraft
Hegseth orders commanders to treat small drones as consumable weapons rather than high-end aircraft
Posted by: SMOD at July 13, 2025 09:39 PM (GITLP)
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190 Might be worth a call to S&W itself. Catalog shows discontinued.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 09:16 PM (ctrM5)
I know.
Hence gunbroker.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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MAE, I just forgot, try Guns dot com as well. Guns Magazine is somehow affiliated with it but they have firearms not on gunbroker--from dealers, pawnshops, etc.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 09:16 PM (ctrM5)
I know.
Hence gunbroker.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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MAE, I just forgot, try Guns dot com as well. Guns Magazine is somehow affiliated with it but they have firearms not on gunbroker--from dealers, pawnshops, etc.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 09:39 PM (ctrM5)
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Thanks for the thread, Weasel. And while on vacation!
Posted by: scampydog at July 13, 2025 09:41 PM (41CYW)
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Might be a strange question but could ambient temp affect the ammo? It was almost 100 today (very hot for Oregon) and I know that metal can expand/contract based on temp changes. Am still very new to this, before May the last time I shot was literally in 1985.
Posted by: Frankie
A temp of 100 may have some effect on the shooter. Especially if not used to high temps. Maybe a bit of fatigue -> limp wrist ?
Posted by: Frankie
A temp of 100 may have some effect on the shooter. Especially if not used to high temps. Maybe a bit of fatigue -> limp wrist ?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 13, 2025 09:41 PM (/lPRQ)
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A temp of 100 may have some effect on the shooter. Especially if not used to high temps. Maybe a bit of fatigue -> limp wrist ?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
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Possible.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
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Possible.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 09:41 PM (ctrM5)
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Anyone with information detailing how whale #2583 was injured is encouraged to contact rangers at 907-697-2230.
Posted by: SMOD at July 13, 2025 09:37 PM (GITLP)
Whale #2583 had her purple hair pulled out by the roots at the ICE riot in Camarillo.
Posted by: SMOD at July 13, 2025 09:37 PM (GITLP)
Whale #2583 had her purple hair pulled out by the roots at the ICE riot in Camarillo.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 13, 2025 09:42 PM (D91Jg)
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MAE, I just forgot, try Guns dot com as well. Guns Magazine is somehow affiliated with it but they have firearms not on gunbroker--from dealers, pawnshops, etc.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 09:39 PM (ctrM5)
Thanks Whig, trying now
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 09:39 PM (ctrM5)
Thanks Whig, trying now
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 13, 2025 09:44 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 13, 2025 09:46 PM (/lPRQ)
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210 Gun dot deals
Good webcrawler if you have the UPC code for the item you are looking for.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 13, 2025 09:46 PM (/lPRQ)
Thankee
Good webcrawler if you have the UPC code for the item you are looking for.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 13, 2025 09:46 PM (/lPRQ)
Thankee
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 13, 2025 09:46 PM (xcxpd)
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Goodnight folks. Have a good rest of the weekend.
Posted by: whig at July 13, 2025 09:47 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: mindful webworker - nerf at July 13, 2025 09:51 PM (+kBwA)
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>>>They have since started another facility in Wisconsin iirc.
Posted by: Common Tater
Henry Firearms and Henry bourbon, both in WI. Nice!
Posted by: Common Tater
Henry Firearms and Henry bourbon, both in WI. Nice!
Posted by: haffhowershower at July 13, 2025 09:52 PM (144I4)
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Magazines -
It is not often that I buy a gun,
But when I do I order four more mags when I kno wthe new gun is in the pipeline.
Course you glock-boys (and compatibles) get them buy the twelve pack lredy because very affordable.
It is not often that I buy a gun,
But when I do I order four more mags when I kno wthe new gun is in the pipeline.
Course you glock-boys (and compatibles) get them buy the twelve pack lredy because very affordable.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 13, 2025 09:55 PM (/lPRQ)
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checking in
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 10:02 PM (wBe+K)
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ONT Gun Thread !?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 13, 2025 10:02 PM (/lPRQ)
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Guess not... ONT UP
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 13, 2025 10:03 PM (/lPRQ)
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New a lady whose husband was bugging her. She told him to quit.
Then she said I'm going to shoot you if you don't stop. He didn't stop. She shot him.
He's all better now.
Then she said I'm going to shoot you if you don't stop. He didn't stop. She shot him.
He's all better now.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 10:04 PM (wBe+K)
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