James Gunn's <i>Superman</i> No Longer Fights for "The American Way," but "the Human Way;" He and His Brother Both Say the Movie Is About How Vital Immigrants Are to Our Country

James Gunn's Superman No Longer Fights for "The American Way," but "the Human Way;" He and His Brother Both Say the Movie Is About How Vital Immigrants Are to Our Country

Superman is a character I want to like more than I like. I'm a traditionalist who likes old pulp characters, and I like Americana.

I was hoping this movie might be good. I hear some saying it's good, and some saying it's bad, but it sounded like I'd be in the camp of people that like it. The movie is cartoony and inspired by the goofy, anything-goes ethos of the Silver Age of comic books, which sounds good to me. Apparently the movie makes the case that Superman's real strength isn't his physical power but his simple goodness and moral strength, which sounds nice to me. I'm tired of Dark and Gritty Super-Heroes for Children.

But then these repulsive Hollywood perverts had to open their leftist mouths.

James Gunn changes Superman's catchphrase from 'Truth, Justice, and the American Way' to 'Truth, Justice, and the Human Way': report

I know America isn't popular among foreign degenerates, so I would understand if they made this change in foreign versions of the film. Hollywood routinely makes American versions of films that push politics -- like gays kissing in cartoons for children -- that it takes out of the export versions. Why can't that be done here?

But apparently Gunn doesn't want to say that the American Way is worth fighting for even in America -- his lefty friends of course hate America -- so not even in the American version can we hear that America is good.

According to Comicbook, Superman's new catchphrase is "Truth, Justice, and the Human Way," as seen on official Superman merchandise, eliminating the traditional phrase Superman has used in stories since World War II, only a few years after the character was created by Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster in 1938.
The phrase was seen on official Superman movie merchandise with David Corenswet as Superman. Gunn has previously said that he has to approve all the toys associated with the movie, per Cosmic Book News.
The figure of Superman comes with text that reads, "Superman must reconcile his alien Kryptonian heritage with his human upbringing as reporter Clark Kent. As the embodiment of truth, justice, and the human way he soon finds himself in a world that views these as old-fashioned."

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The reboot of the hero film directed by Gunn has been slammed before it comes out in theatres on July 11 after Gunn made comments suggesting that the story would highlight Superman as being an immigrant from another planet.
"I mean, Superman is the story of America," Gunn told reporters at The Times of London. "An immigrant that came from other places and populated the country. But for me it is mostly a story that says basic human kindness is a value and is something we have lost."

James Gunn's nepo baby brother Sean Gunn, who appears in every single Gunn movie like Clint Howard gets an easy paycheck in every Ron Howard movie, says that the movie is "about how we support immigrants and if you don't like it, you're not American."

Sold. I mean, you've sold me into the position of "No Sale.

Go fuck yourselves.

Sean Gunn on the new Superman movie: "It is about how we support immigrants and if you don't like it, you're not an American" pic.twitter.com/ugYiYqrphe
— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) July 8, 2025

Nerdrotic's review has spoilers, but he doesn't get into them until the 9 minute mark.

He calls it "mid."

Here's some more Hollywood trash. Proud adopted mother of two children who somehow both turned out trans, Charlize Theron brags that she's now picking up 26-year-olds for one night stands.

“I did just recently f*** a 26 year old and it was really f***ing amazing.”- Charlize Theron
pic.twitter.com/LgNTr3vJFS
— cinesthetic. (@TheCinesthetic) July 3, 2025

What have you watched recently that you would recommend?

Here's one I recommend, advisedly. I saw Dan from The Cobwebs Channel recommending the Japanese zombie movie One Cut of the Dead. He gave the quick pitch -- a low-budget film crew is attempting to make a cheap, crappy zombie movie, and are attempting to film it in one single take, when an actual zombie horde attacks the movie production -- and then said he can't say anything more about it.

So there's some kind of secret twist you're not supposed to talk about. That interested me.

I wouldn't watch the trailer. It gives too much away. It just shows you the twist.

Just go in with as little information as possible.

I have to offer an advisory on this one. For the first half hour, I thought this was the most inept movie I've seen in a long time. (I later found out the actual budget for the movie was $25,000.) I only stayed with it because I wanted to get to the big twist that supposedly justifies this sloppy, boring, clumsy movie.

I'm glad I stayed with it. The second half hour offers some background information about the zombie attack shown in the first half hour, re-contextualizing it. The third half hour then revisits the zombie attack, with this re-contextualization completely changing what you saw before.

By the end I really, really liked the movie. The last half our pays off everything set up in the first hour. All the "mistakes" that bothered me in the first half hour actually turn out to be justified.

I immediately rewatched the whole movie and enjoyed it again. Then I bought the French remake and watched that. The French remake, Coupez! ("Cut!"), is by the same director who did the OSS 117 movies and stars his wife, who played the female lead in the first OSS movie. The budget is higher (but it's still not a big budget movie).

Even though the French version may sound like it would be better than the cheaper original, it's not. The Japanese original is just better in almost every way. I think the French version goes a little too over the top and lacks the relative subtlety of the Japanese version. (Which is kind of surprising.) I think the French director didn't like how slow and clumsy the Japanese version was in the early going, and tried to correct that by adding more punch. But it didn't work for me. The awkward, clumsy opening of the Japanese movie turned out to be the right way to do it.

It's too bad, because the French Coupez! can be bought on Amazon for like five bucks while it costs five bucks just to rent One Cut of the Dead. It was produced by Shudder so it might be available on that streaming channel for no cost (assuming you subscribe or sign up for a teaser trial, which of course you'll forget to cancel).

I liked -- almost loved -- this movie, but be prepared to feel like I did during my first watch, thinking this is the worst movie you've ever seen and that I must be a moron for saying otherwise. Hold off judgment until the third act.

In terms of gore or objectionable material: There's really not a lot of gore, or, there's not any gore that's convincing. It all looks half-baked and on-the-cheap. I don't recall much in the movie that would bother any viewer.

Update:

It looks like you can watch "One Cut of the Dead" for free on Hoopla.
Posted by: bleakdaze

Oh, I never even heard of "Hoopla." If you have Hoopla, give it a try.

Anything you guys can recommend?

Posted by: Ace at 04:15 PM

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1 Hola

Posted by: Thanatopsis at July 11, 2025 04:16 PM (GYt5+)

2 FIRST WITH THE BLADE

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 04:16 PM (iFTx/)

3 2nd

Posted by: Thanatopsis at July 11, 2025 04:17 PM (GYt5+)

4 I watched True Detective 2 - its about the CA High Speed Rail Grift. Also taps a little bit into "sex workers" and our elites...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 04:17 PM (t0Rmr)

5 >>>I mean, Superman is the story of America," Gunn told reporters at The Times of London. "An immigrant that came from other places and populated the country. But for me it is mostly a story that says basic human kindness is a value and is something we have lost."

Oh, I see. I never looked at it that way...

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 04:17 PM (uCjyK)

6 Your blade is a bit dull, it would seem.

Posted by: Thanatopsis at July 11, 2025 04:18 PM (GYt5+)

7 Willowed but Ace, did you know Wet Leg has a new album out ?

Posted by: banana Dream at July 11, 2025 04:18 PM (cduTK)

8 I'll see it.

On Max. In a few months.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:18 PM (GBKbO)

9 prometheus

Posted by: Luigi'sIndexFinger at July 11, 2025 04:19 PM (cHe/e)

10 It's how I saw The Flash.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:19 PM (GBKbO)

11 Not really a movie, I guess, but I did enjoy the Netflix documentary on the OceanGate sub that imploded.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 04:19 PM (uCjyK)

12 >>>7 Willowed but Ace, did you know Wet Leg has a new album out ?

yeah.... I don't like how the lead singer is deliberately making herself ugly. She has defeated my Male Gaze and I can't bear to look at her now.

I listened to one song. It was meh. I might listen to the whole album if she stops uglifying herself.

btw Pulp just released its first album in like 25 years.

Posted by: ace at July 11, 2025 04:20 PM (KRtlO)

13 11 Not really a movie, I guess, but I did enjoy the Netflix documentary on the OceanGate sub that imploded.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 04:19 PM (uCjyK)

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The one on the poop cruise (The Carnival Triumph) was amusing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:20 PM (GBKbO)

14 He and His Brother Both Say the Movie Is About [b[How Vital Immigrants Are to Our Country

I love how everyone on the left ignores the word "illegal".

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 04:20 PM (8v2yu)

15 I’ll keep my $12 Senor Gunn.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 04:21 PM (ImXfC)

16 "Sean Gunn on the new Superman movie: 'It is about how we support immigrants and if you don't like it, you're not an American'"

I continue to believe they've seen something that's got them spooked on the potential box office, and this is battlespace prep to try to pre-spin an underperforming result. It seems beyond insane that yet another studio with yet another hugely expensive tentpole movie would allow some slapdick shitmonger to shit on half the movie's potential audience.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 04:21 PM (iFTx/)

17
OUT: Hollywood
IN: Hollywoodn't

Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 11, 2025 04:21 PM (wtvvX)

18 Ooo...movie thing.

Stellan Skarsgaard has caused some waves because he said that Ingmar Bergman was a literal Nazi who cried the day that Hitler died.

I thought this was old news, pretty sure I'd read it somewhere that Bergman had been at least Hitler curious during WWII, but I guess people hadn't read that factoid before.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:21 PM (GBKbO)

19 Charlize Theron should be locked up in a mental institution.
I feel so sorry for her adopted children.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 11, 2025 04:22 PM (NpAcC)

20 I've recently been bingeing Vinland Saga and Frieren on Netflix. They're both wildly different shows, but I give both a hearty thumbs up.

Posted by: Truculent Unicorn at July 11, 2025 04:22 PM (14i9S)

21 Not really a movie, I guess, but I did enjoy the Netflix documentary on the OceanGate sub that imploded.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

Quick! Everyone into the Idiot Squisher!

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 04:22 PM (8v2yu)

22 The one on the poop cruise (The Carnival Triumph) was amusing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:20 PM (GBKbO)

Worth checking out? I'm more of a documentary person than a movie movie person.

The subject matter seems light enough.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 04:22 PM (uCjyK)

23 I've recently been bingeing Vinland Saga and Frieren on Netflix. They're both wildly different shows, but I give both a hearty thumbs up.

I've got a non-anime fan in my circle that watched Frieren and liked it

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 04:22 PM (t0Rmr)

24 The commies are going to be very surprised and upset if ALL immigration is stopped for several decades. I used to think this was totally impossible, even for a few years; not I'm not so sure.

The 'fringe' seems to have recently become "we're going to send some of the Hart-Cellar crowd back".

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 11, 2025 04:22 PM (ULPxl)

25 22 The one on the poop cruise (The Carnival Triumph) was amusing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:20 PM (GBKbO)

Worth checking out? I'm more of a documentary person than a movie movie person.

The subject matter seems light enough.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 04:22 PM (uCjyK)

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It's a breezy 55 minutes.

Entertained me, Dolley, and Junior all at once.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:23 PM (GBKbO)

26 'Truth, Justice, and the Human Way'

How gay.
Like the new Superman.
He'll leave your ass a smoking hole.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 11, 2025 04:23 PM (/lPRQ)

27 >>> I listened to one song. It was meh. I might listen to the whole album if she stops uglifying herself.

Posted by: ace at July 11, 2025 04:20 PM (KRtlO)

It doesn't have any of the unique catchy hooks as the first. More chick angst and exposition. Less fun. That's my low effort review.

Posted by: banana Dream at July 11, 2025 04:23 PM (cduTK)

28 Yeah, I'm going to go see Superman.

From the trailers it looks like they threw Superman The Movie and Smallville into a blender and added a dash of Guardians of The Galaxy.

I'm also going to go see Fantastic Four because that was one of my favorite comics growing up and just by random chance, they have to get one of these films right sometime.

Other than that, the only other films I want to see are Caught Stealing and the new PTA film starring DiCaprio.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 04:23 PM (XV/Pl)

29 I'd rather continue digitizing my vinyl lps than watch recent movies.

But, I can advise for British TV fans, find the Forgotten British Television channel. Lots of 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's British TV series.

Currently about to finish watching the Bulman Trilogy. Palfrey of Westminster, Warship, Squadron, and other forgotten series are also on it and many of them have been enhanced by modern digital techniques to overcome old smeared looking video of the originals. Those shot in 16mm film look even better.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 04:24 PM (ctrM5)

30 F1 was pretty good, though obviously unrealistic (the most of which being an American actually making it onto the grid).

Posted by: XTC at July 11, 2025 04:24 PM (UnA8+)

31 Superman was not an “immigrant”. He was a baby when he “immigrated” and grew up as an American, with American parents, going to American schools and embracing American culture.

Compare that to their immigrant heroes, MS-13 child traffickers.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 04:24 PM (ImXfC)

32 Finally finished Peaky Blinders. Good, but still it's glorifying mob shit.

Posted by: Archer at July 11, 2025 04:24 PM (mlg/3)

33 "The human way" demonstrates that they know nothing about either America or humans.

The human way is shitty and barbaric. That's why we need the way of America. That's why we need superheroes. It's the damn villains who fight for the Human Way.

Idiots.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 11, 2025 04:25 PM (BjH5D)

34 The last movie I watched … like a new movie I hadn’t seen before … was CODA, which was good but I’m not sure I’d recommend it to this crowd.

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at July 11, 2025 04:25 PM (jYRYu)

35 Quick! Everyone into the Idiot Squisher!
Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 04:22 PM (8v2yu)

The most darkly amusing part of the whole situation (I've read a lot on the subject beyond just watching the documentary), is how cocky Stockton Rush (the now-squished CEO) was about everything.

Guy missed his calling as a politician.

"Hey, Stockton, I think this thing is going to implode" "I don't need that negativity around here, you're fired!"

He was like a cartoon villain.

During the investigation, multiple of the engineers (who defended the project) were asked by the NTSB if they would have gone on that sub, and all of them when pressed were like "well, you know... I mean... ehh, no."

In many ways, it's the story of America.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 04:25 PM (uCjyK)

36 14 He and His Brother Both Say the Movie Is About [b[How Vital Immigrants Are to Our Country

I love how everyone on the left ignores the word "illegal".
Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 04:20 PM (8v2yu)

***

This.
I've no problem welcoming new Americans and those foreigners who are here legally. If not legal, get the fu*k out!

Posted by: Diogenes at July 11, 2025 04:25 PM (W/lyH)

37 28 Yeah, I'm going to go see Superman.

From the trailers it looks like they threw Superman The Movie and Smallville into a blender and added a dash of Guardians of The Galaxy.

I'm also going to go see Fantastic Four because that was one of my favorite comics growing up and just by random chance, they have to get one of these films right sometime.

Other than that, the only other films I want to see are Caught Stealing and the new PTA film starring DiCaprio.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 04:23 PM (XV/Pl)

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The thing about Gunn is that he's...undisciplined as a writer and goes big all the time.

He's very hit or miss, especially when it comes to his efforts at ensemble pictures, which are most of his efforts over the past 20 years.

He loves his characters and wants to give them all time to shine, but he has this weird blindspot about actually...putting them in a story that combines all of these characters well.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:25 PM (GBKbO)

38 Well, if illegal immigrants were like superman, I suspect we'd all like them better. But the principal superpowers of ours are drunk driving, raping and murdering young white women, and eating cats, which just seems less super.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 04:25 PM (cBvpj)

39 "Charlize Theron brags that she's now picking up 26-year-olds for one night stands."

Theron is 49. A 49-and-26 paring doesn't even bat eyes.

She's talking as if she's 85 and still lethal with the young lions.

Or is she talking about fucking a woman?

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 04:25 PM (iFTx/)

40 James Gunn doesn’t do anything to support immigrants. All he does is tell other people to support immigrants.

Typical leftist, nothing but talk. They think telling other people what to do is all that is necessary.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 11, 2025 04:25 PM (0kwZe)

41 Because Superman has feelings now having been sucked into Leftism

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 04:25 PM (+qU29)

42 >>>It doesn't have any of the unique catchy hooks as the first. More chick angst and exposition. Less fun. That's my low effort review.

too bad. I know the lead single "Catch These Fists" is just blah.

a lot of bands show off all of their tricks and ideas in their first album and don't have much left on the shelves for the second.

Posted by: ace at July 11, 2025 04:26 PM (KRtlO)

43 34 The last movie I watched … like a new movie I hadn’t seen before … was CODA, which was good but I’m not sure I’d recommend it to this crowd.
Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at July 11, 2025 04:25 PM (jYRYu)

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It's a glorified Hallmark movie that Apple bought and then spent tens of millions of dollars convincing the Academy was the best movie of the year.

It's a triumph of the Oscar buying process.

It's...fine as a movie.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:26 PM (GBKbO)

44 Bought tix to Superman and now getting refunded. Wife and I are super bummed: got little kids and this was our first date night in a few months, and first movie night in a year. Everything else out seems to suck though...

Said it in a coupla posts the past week or so, but I really liked Saturday Night. Makes you real nostalgic for SNL before TDS totally broke it, or at least 20-30+ years ago SNL... I also saw Laroy, Texas on a United flight last weekend. It was enjoyable. Campy, very Texas country, but fun and a good story. Steve Zahn was great in it. Think Bernie, which I liked; not as NC-17 as Killer Joe but that kinda Texas flick; Small Town Crime (which I also liked) is similar, though this one's Texas and that was non-descript small town Utah. They also had very Super Trooper-ish cops messing with Steve Zahn's PI character, which was fun. Wasn't great but compared to what's out, worth the watch

Posted by: bearski at July 11, 2025 04:26 PM (Bhsk7)

45 Because Superman is Human.

?

Posted by: garrett at July 11, 2025 04:26 PM (Bi+MU)

46 Charlize Theron should be locked up in a mental institution.
I feel so sorry for her adopted children.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 11, 2025 04:22 PM (NpAcC)

How many African Stunt Children does she have? I am jealous!

Posted by: Amy Conehead Barrett, Collector Of Trophy Children at July 11, 2025 04:27 PM (R/m4+)

47 I love how everyone on the left ignores the word "illegal".
Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 04:20 PM

NO HUMAN BEING IS ILLEGAL!!!!!!!!

- Every lefty, everywhere

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 11, 2025 04:27 PM (kgE5c)

48 The real Superman.

https://is.gd/JL8DHr

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Living In a Beaver Cleaver World, at July 11, 2025 04:27 PM (L/fGl)

49 It's a breezy 55 minutes.

Entertained me, Dolley, and Junior all at once.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:23 PM (GBKbO)

Cool, I'll add that to the list then. Thanks for the recommendation.

It's hard for me to find things that both my girl and I will watch.

And I've had it up to ABOUT HERE with Love Island, so it'll be nice to find something else and get a break from that trash.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 04:27 PM (uCjyK)

50 Well the next time a Mexican comes here because his entire country has blown up, we should let him in.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 11, 2025 04:27 PM (0kwZe)

51 "about how we support immigrants and if you don't like it, you're not American."
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Dishonesty. We all know you are talking about illegal aliens and unfettered invasion of the country while trying to guilt people into accepting it.
Regular Tokyo Rose.

If the alien invasion is a national emergency then the gun should be treated for treason.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 11, 2025 04:27 PM (/lPRQ)

52 Whatever Happened To The Man of Tomorrow?
James Gunn's latest Superman movie is a travesty of misunderstanding
https://shorturl.at/SPvHT
Ben Domenech (substack), from Instapundit

"This movie absolutely, totally sucks. The CGI sucks. The writing sucks. The cast, which is for the most part much higher quality than the material, sucks."

I don't think he likes it.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 11, 2025 04:27 PM (ULPxl)

53 38 Well, if illegal immigrants were like superman, I suspect we'd all like them better. But the principal superpowers of ours are drunk driving, raping and murdering young white women, and eating cats, which just seems less super.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 04:25 PM (cBvpj)

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It's like when people use Paddington as an example of how great immigration is.

Yeah, if all immigrants loved their new countries and their customs and language more than the places that they came from and wanted to be prototypically British/American rather than Peruvian/Kryptonian, people would love immigrants a whole lot more.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:27 PM (GBKbO)

54 So it's an anti Trump move. It should be a smash at the box office then.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 11, 2025 04:27 PM (e5NfL)

55 It seems beyond insane that yet another studio with yet another hugely expensive tentpole movie would allow some slapdick shitmonger to shit on half the movie's potential audience.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 04:21 PM (iFTx/)
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You'd like to think that's the case. But these people are so insulated in their Hollywood bubble, they cannot comprehend anyone might think differently than they do.

Therefore, if you don't bow down to their genius, YOU are the problem. Not them. Never them. The ideology is perfect.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 11, 2025 04:28 PM (7fElN)

56 >>a lot of bands show off all of their tricks and ideas in their first album and don't have much left on the shelves for the second.

Did you catch the TinyDesk Concert of Wet leg, Ace?

I think it posted yesterday to youtube.

Posted by: garrett at July 11, 2025 04:28 PM (Bi+MU)

57 But Superman isn't human.

Posted by: 29Victor at July 11, 2025 04:28 PM (j6Ika)

58 38 Well, if illegal immigrants were like superman, I suspect we'd all like them better. But the principal superpowers of ours are drunk driving, raping and murdering young white women, and eating cats, which just seems less super.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 04:25 PM (cBvpj)

Diversity of super powers is our strength.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 04:28 PM (uCjyK)

59 From the bits I've seen f the new Supe it just looks ugly.

The color and lighting and all that. It just looks awful.

Posted by: eleven at July 11, 2025 04:28 PM (fV+MH)

60 The one on the poop cruise (The Carnival Triumph) was amusing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:20 PM (GBKbO)

Worth checking out? I'm more of a documentary person than a movie movie person.

The subject matter seems light enough.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 04:22 PM (uCjyK)

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It's a breezy 55 minutes.

Entertained me, Dolley, and Junior all at once.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:23 PM (GBKbO)
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It's also interesting in that it was CNN that created an international story out of basically nothing

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 04:28 PM (iFTx/)

61 Posted by: redridinghood at July 11, 2025 04:22 PM (NpAcC)

She was a model at age 16 in Italy. I think Charlize was involved with warped people and this has had a terrible outcome. I can't imagine wanting to pick up men young enough to be the age of my son even if I were single and looked like Theron.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2025 04:28 PM (2GCMq)

62 "The Human Way" -- what the fuck does that even mean?

He should be sent to the gulag for speaking nonsense.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 11, 2025 04:28 PM (8LN1t)

63 Yeah, we NEVER supported immigrants. They had to support themselves. So only hard-working types made it here.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at July 11, 2025 04:29 PM (w6EFb)

64 60 It's also interesting in that it was CNN that created an international story out of basically nothing
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 04:28 PM (iFTx/)

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The most interesting part of that angle was that CNN ignored it until someone told them it was a story.

"Oh, Carnival says that one of their ships is broken in the middle of the gulf. Whatever."

several days pass

"Oh, the passengers got internet and described poop?! We're on it!"

Lazy as shit.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:29 PM (GBKbO)

65 Well, if illegal immigrants were like superman, I suspect we'd all like them better. But the principal superpowers of ours are drunk driving, raping and murdering young white women, and eating cats, which just seems less super.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 04:25 PM

You left out two of their super powers, driving without a license and insurance.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 11, 2025 04:29 PM (e5NfL)

66 I'm willing to go with Sean Gunn's terms.

If you don't think American is by blood and very long tenure, then you're not American are you Mr. Lefty, and you need to be deported for UnAmerican Think.

It is sad to do, but once we export all the Lefties to China to make our Nike shoes, we'll be a foot ahead.

Posted by: Eric2 at July 11, 2025 04:29 PM (q7Vou)

67 Pretending to be 10 years old and into this comic book nonsense, I'll make a valid point.

General Zod was an immigrant, too. And, he was an asshole.

Posted by: Orson at July 11, 2025 04:29 PM (dIske)

68 A review that got quoted on Insty yesterday said the Superman movie plays like a goofy sitcom (not a *good* goofy sitcom, mind you) and it's not actually making the points Gunn claims it is. Also that it has Nathan Fillion from Firefly/Serenity as Green Lantern, with a goofy bowl cut. I might catch it when it's on streaming.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 11, 2025 04:30 PM (2ocoG)

69 67 Pretending to be 10 years old and into this comic book nonsense, I'll make a valid point.

General Zod was an immigrant, too. And, he was an asshole.
Posted by: Orson at July 11, 2025 04:29 PM (dIske)

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He wouldn't have tried to terraform Earth if America had open borders.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:30 PM (GBKbO)

70 A lot of the Hollywood women have adopted kids who turned out trans. The odds of Theron, Nixon, etc all having children turn out that way are astronomical. Oh, wait, the mothers are raging attention whores so those kids were doomed the second the ink was dry on the adoption papers

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 11, 2025 04:30 PM (JtH6i)

71 >>"The Human Way" -- what the fuck does that even mean?

Reverse Cowgirl.

No other Species does Reverse Cowgirl.

Posted by: garrett at July 11, 2025 04:30 PM (Bi+MU)

72 The First Lady wears Chuck Taylors to Texas

https://tinyurl.com/3yyrurt8

Posted by: Don Black at July 11, 2025 04:30 PM (AOsQT)

73 "Charlize Theron brags that she's now picking up 26-year-olds for one night stands."

Theron is 49. A 49-and-26 paring doesn't even bat eyes.

Heh.
I'm more than twice 26. I'll bang her twice and she will forget about doing rookies.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 11, 2025 04:30 PM (W/lyH)

74 Yeah, if all immigrants loved their new countries and their customs and language more than the places that they came from and wanted to be prototypically British/American rather than Peruvian/Kryptonian, people would love immigrants a whole lot more.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:27 PM (GBKbO)

That's my working theory on why people let this immigration situation get so out of control.

Mexicans are typically super nice people with a similar culture to ours who typically like us and want to be a part of the US and can and do assimilate. Even the Mexicans in Mexico are like that. Super friendly, proud of their culture, but view themselves as part of the a larger "North American" culture.

Our newest New Americans (from Muslim countries, India and Asia) -- not so much.

But uh, we still have way too many amigos in this country, so unfortunately many will have to leave.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 04:31 PM (uCjyK)

75 As opposed to dog-style. Except for the sniffing. That’s the same

Posted by: Eromero at July 11, 2025 04:31 PM (jgmnb)

76 >>>Did you catch the TinyDesk Concert of Wet leg, Ace?

no i didn't. I'll look for it. Is she in Full Ugly Mode?

Posted by: ace at July 11, 2025 04:31 PM (KRtlO)

77 Caught a J-Horror movie the other day: Best Wishes To All. Not bad. Hard to describe without spoiling though.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 04:31 PM (cBvpj)

78 Currently about to finish watching the Bulman Trilogy. Palfrey of Westminster, Warship, Squadron, and other forgotten series are also on it and many of them have been enhanced by modern digital techniques to overcome old smeared looking video of the originals. Those shot in 16mm film look even better.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 04:24 PM (ctrM5)

I've never seen Warship, but I recently watched The Sandbaggers on Tubi which is made by the guy who did Warship. I really liked it.

Posted by: Mark1971 at July 11, 2025 04:31 PM (CNl8/)

79 Not really a movie, I guess, but I did enjoy the Netflix documentary on the OceanGate sub that imploded.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

The Wifey and I saw that and liked it. There's another one on HBO Max (I think) we saw recently. Apparently Josh Gates of Discovery Channel's 'Expedition Unknown' interviewed Stockton Rush for his show and thought the guy was full of shit and was going to get people killed so he refused to let Discovery air the episode.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at July 11, 2025 04:31 PM (M0V4/)

80 Man on man is this "weak men create bad times" in action.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 11, 2025 04:31 PM (8LN1t)

81 I dunno what the big deal is. she fucked a 26 year old. She’s an adult he’s an adult. Whatevs. Cougars fucking young dudes isn’t something revolutionary.

Who knows if it even happened?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 04:31 PM (ImXfC)

82 "The Human Way" -- what the fuck does that even mean?

He should be sent to the gulag for speaking nonsense.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 11, 2025 04:28 PM (8LN1t)
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"Humans are bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling." -- Dr. Bob Kelso and Dr. Perry Cox / Scrubs

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 11, 2025 04:32 PM (7fElN)

83
Documentaries about hubristic and narcissistic fails are getting popular and they're scattered around the internet.

Scamanda (super-religious woman who faked having horrible cancer for fun and profit)

Anatomy of Lies (Hollywood writer of Grey's Anatomy is aNOTHER woman who faked having horrible cancer for fun and profit!)

One about an Aussie girl who faked having horrible cancer for fun and profit

going back a way there's Bad Surgeon (guy who installs bad medical devices and the female journalist who falls for him)

Two documentaries on a cult called Twin Flames

They're actually getting a bit excessive. There's a lot more of them I don't bother clicking on.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 04:32 PM (UmB+t)

84 >>no i didn't. I'll look for it. Is she in Full Ugly Mode?

Didn't watch...but in the thumbnail she's wearing her panties on the outside of her shorts and they say 'WET' on them.
So...maybe no?

Posted by: garrett at July 11, 2025 04:32 PM (Bi+MU)

85
Legal immigrants hate illegal ones. Just hate them.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 11, 2025 04:32 PM (HZi96)

86 She's talking as if she's 85 and still lethal with the young lions.

Or is she talking about fucking a woman?
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 04:25 PM (iFTx/)

What's the best thing about fucking twenty six year olds?

....

There's twenty of 'em!

Posted by: Charlize Theron at July 11, 2025 04:32 PM (BjH5D)

87 It's also interesting in that it was CNN that created an international story out of basically nothing
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 04:28 PM (iFTx/)

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The most interesting part of that angle was that CNN ignored it until someone told them it was a story.

"Oh, Carnival says that one of their ships is broken in the middle of the gulf. Whatever."

several days pass

"Oh, the passengers got internet and described poop?! We're on it!"

Lazy as shit.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:29 PM (GBKbO)
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Yup, and almost certainly over-hyped. There were probably 1,500 rooms on that ship, and the most they could get was maybe a few dozen pics of overflowing waste. And maybe 10 people to talk about it -- some of whom had ulterior motives.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 04:32 PM (iFTx/)

88 I liked Gunn's Guardians of the Galaxy movies. Don't know if I have seen anything else he's done. He is quite an ahole however

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 11, 2025 04:32 PM (JtH6i)

89 Truth, Justice, and the Human ~~Way~~ Fund!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Living In a Beaver Cleaver World, at July 11, 2025 04:33 PM (L/fGl)

90 Why can't these people get "the human way" in their own fucking counties? Are they run by donkeys south of the border?

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 11, 2025 04:33 PM (8LN1t)

91 87 Yup, and almost certainly over-hyped. There were probably 1,500 rooms on that ship, and the most they could get was maybe a few dozen pics of overflowing waste. And maybe 10 people to talk about it -- some of whom had ulterior motives.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 04:32 PM (iFTx/)

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It was probably pretty miserable.

But...poop.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:33 PM (GBKbO)

92 I rewatched both Dune 2 and The King's Speech. Both are excellent, but in different ways.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2025 04:33 PM (Riz8t)

93 76 >>>Did you catch the TinyDesk Concert of Wet leg, Ace?

no i didn't. I'll look for it. Is she in Full Ugly Mode?
Posted by: ace at July 11, 2025 04:31 PM (KRtlO)

Wet Leg at NPR? Oy gevalt.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 11, 2025 04:34 PM (PiwSw)

94 >>"The Human Way" -- what the fuck does that even mean?

Typical leftist pablum bullshit. Sounds oh so cool, but humanism is an ugly pathway to follow.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 11, 2025 04:34 PM (W/lyH)

95 It's...fine as a movie.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:26 PM (GBKbO)

Yeah, I haven’t cared about a movie’s Oscar-worthiness in 20 years, but I am glad I didn’t see this one in the theater.

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at July 11, 2025 04:34 PM (jYRYu)

96 Ooo...movie thing.

Stellan Skarsgaard has caused some waves because he said that Ingmar Bergman was a literal Nazi who cried the day that Hitler died.

I thought this was old news, pretty sure I'd read it somewhere that Bergman had been at least Hitler curious during WWII, but I guess people hadn't read that factoid before.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:21 PM (GBKbO)

Hardly a shocker. Probably 90 percent of Germans were in that camp. Lots of revisionism since.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 04:34 PM (8avO+)

97
Charlize Theron brags that she's now picking up 26-year-olds for one night stands.

__________

Didn't she return to SA? "When you've had black, you won't go back."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 11, 2025 04:34 PM (HZi96)

98 The Wifey and I saw that and liked it. There's another one on HBO Max (I think) we saw recently. Apparently Josh Gates of Discovery Channel's 'Expedition Unknown' interviewed Stockton Rush for his show and thought the guy was full of shit and was going to get people killed so he refused to let Discovery air the episode.
Posted by: Stu Podaso at July 11, 2025 04:31 PM (M0V4/)

Yeah, I may watch that one as well.

And yeah, Stockton Rush was clearly full of shit, and I think that was obvious to everyone who wasn't reliant on him for a paycheck, and apparently for the small group of people who went on his sub.

I still don't really understand what his end goal was. He claimed he was going to be the Elon Musk of submersibles, but where is the business plan there? How many people want to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to go in a sketchy tiny craft deep underwater? Is there really a huge market for that? How was he ever going to make any money?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 04:34 PM (uCjyK)

99 They do have unambiguously sexual lyrics in this album, where the first album was more innuendo. She's pretty much f'ing her pillow in one song. The innuendo probably worked better the first time but then I'm a genX prude or something.

Posted by: banana Dream at July 11, 2025 04:34 PM (cduTK)

100 The Theron story is paradigm instance of the weird sexual double standards that exist. She's 49 and bragging about banging some guy in his 20s. When DiCaprio, 50, bangs chicks in their 20s, it's covered like statutory rape.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 04:34 PM (cBvpj)

101 No sleep for me = too many typos. I was awake at 3:00AM this morning for no reason at all.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 11, 2025 04:35 PM (8LN1t)

102 I saw Superman in an advance screening Tuesday night. I am aware of the comments Gunn and others have made regarding the film, but the actual movie presents a very different view of “immigration” than is being reflected in the online arguments about the movie. Yes, Superman is the survivor of a catastrophe and a refugee who was adopted by the Kents as an infant. This has always been his story. The movie goes to great links to show how much he has assimilated to our nation and world, even going so far to suggest that where he came from maybe wasn’t that such of a great place to begin with. Superman tangentially is about immigration, but it is the broader idea of immigration that is at the heart of this country. The politics of the film are presented in such a way that whatever your political views are, you could graft them onto the movie. In other words, they matter very little to the story. There are no cheap shots against conservatives, no girlboss moments, and a general message of being kind and looking for the best in others. The movie itself is a love letter to the Superman of the Silver Age of comics, and if you enjoyed the trailers you will probably enjoy the movie.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 11, 2025 04:35 PM (0ZQDV)

103 Human way - get over on anyone and anything you can if you think you can't get caught or pay a penalty.

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 04:35 PM (+qU29)

104 Posted by: Diogenes at July 11, 2025 04:30 PM (W/lyH

I think the point is-and you know this- to prove how hot she is by having sex with a much younger man - not some guy who's older than she is. 😉

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2025 04:35 PM (2GCMq)

105 96 Hardly a shocker. Probably 90 percent of Germans were in that camp. Lots of revisionism since.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 04:34 PM (8avO+)

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Bergman was Swedish.

I think there was a healthy Nazi-curious segment of the Swedish population.

Not really news.

But, the film world is heavily leftist and there are definitely going to be some people who are looking for an excuse to destroy a dead white man from the cinematic canon.

Should be fun to watch.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:35 PM (GBKbO)

106 >>"The Human Way"

A way...for Humans.

Posted by: George Costanza at July 11, 2025 04:35 PM (Bi+MU)

107 It was probably pretty miserable.

But...poop.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:33 PM (GBKbO)

the Ocean is right there.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 04:35 PM (8avO+)

108 >>> liked Gunn's Guardians of the Galaxy movies. Don't know if I have seen anything else he's done

His 'The Suicide Squad' movie is very good. Not the first movie, which was just "Suicide Squad" (no "the"). Definitely worth a rental

Posted by: ace at July 11, 2025 04:35 PM (KRtlO)

109 Marxists ruin everything!

Posted by: runner at July 11, 2025 04:35 PM (g47mK)

110 I've never seen Warship, but I recently watched The Sandbaggers on Tubi which is made by the guy who did Warship. I really liked it.
Posted by: Mark1971
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Warship is an earlier series by Ian MacIntosh. He won a knighthood from it. I should have said that these are free streaming channels on Youtube above. But Ian himself was a naval officer for a long while and supposedly he was on the Naval Intel side for at least part of that time.

Squadron was a less successful RAF version of Warship but that show had no connection to MacIntosh.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 04:36 PM (ctrM5)

111 >>>a lot of bands show off all of their tricks and ideas in their first album and don't have much left on the shelves for the second.

hey man not cool

Posted by: Steel Panther at July 11, 2025 04:36 PM (jGJov)

112 "Hey, Stockton, I think this thing is going to implode" "I don't need that negativity around here, you're fired!"

Typical executive behavior.

Posted by: Don't bring me no bad news at July 11, 2025 04:36 PM (TbWk/)

113 107 It was probably pretty miserable.

But...poop.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:33 PM (GBKbO)

the Ocean is right there.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 04:35 PM (8avO+)

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They do cover that.

The solution was not to have people hang their asses over the railings and potentially fall off, but to poop into red bags.

It is treated like a deeply demeaning thing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:36 PM (GBKbO)

114 Yeah, I may watch that one as well.

You should. It and the Netflix one are very complimentary, each adding details the other lacks. If you liked the one, you'll like the other too.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 04:36 PM (cBvpj)

115
I think there was a healthy Nazi-curious segment of the Swedish population.

________

Like the King of Sweden.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 11, 2025 04:37 PM (HZi96)

116 108 His 'The Suicide Squad' movie is very good. Not the first movie, which was just "Suicide Squad" (no "the"). Definitely worth a rental
Posted by: ace at July 11, 2025 04:35 PM (KRtlO)

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Gunn's Suicide Squad has underwhelmed me both times I've tried it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:37 PM (GBKbO)

117 Charlie Theremin sounds like an abuse victim.

I think she probably got too much of "the human way" as a child.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 11, 2025 04:37 PM (8LN1t)

118 Posted by: Diogenes at July 11, 2025 04:30 PM (W/lyH

I think the point is-and you know this- to prove how hot she is by having sex with a much younger man - not some guy who's older than she is. 😉
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2025 04:35 PM (2GCMq)

Show's how little she knows about men. Having sex isn't the prize. Getting married is.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 04:37 PM (8avO+)

119 BTW “Truth, Justice, and the Human Way” is not a phrase used in the movie.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 11, 2025 04:37 PM (0ZQDV)

120 I think the point is-and you know this- to prove how hot she is by having sex with a much younger man - not some guy who's older than she is. 😉
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2025 04:35 PM (2GCMq)

Not to be indelicate, but one does NOT have to be "hot" to have sex with younger men.

Especially when it's approaching closing time at the local bar. The horrors I've seen!

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 04:37 PM (uCjyK)

121 It looks like you can watch "One Cut of the Dead" for free on Hoopla.

Posted by: bleakdaze at July 11, 2025 04:37 PM (jEhUm)

122 Posted by: Open Channel D at July 11, 2025 04:35 PM (0ZQDV)

Thanks for presenting an alternative point of view .

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2025 04:37 PM (2GCMq)

123 121 It looks like you can watch "One Cut of the Dead" for free on Hoopla.
Posted by: bleakdaze at July 11, 2025 04:37 PM (jEhUm)

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That's a fun one. Recommend.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:37 PM (GBKbO)

124 Twenty six-year-olds, you say?

Posted by: Bill Clinton at July 11, 2025 04:37 PM (L/fGl)

125 I'm too old to care about comic book heroes. But I care about the BBB codifying the $32k standard deduction and adding a new $12k deduction for seniors.

Why? Because we can now start converting our IRAs to Roth's to the tune of $30k+ per year while staying in the 11% bracket. This means we have 4 years to convert IRA dollars before Uncle Sam starts with RMDs to tax our life's savings at a higher rate.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 11, 2025 04:38 PM (wBaIH)

126 Superman IV: Quest for Peace was a cautionary tale.

Not a movie blueprint.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 11, 2025 04:38 PM (O7pnU)

127 If you are looking for fun documentaries, MAX has a good documentary on Anarcopulco - this kind of anarchist community and convention in Acapulco.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 04:38 PM (cBvpj)

128 "The Human Way" -- what the fuck does that even mean?

He should be sent to the gulag for speaking nonsense.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus)
......

"The Human Fund" - George Costanza

Posted by: wth at July 11, 2025 04:38 PM (UjdFS)

129 126 Superman IV: Quest for Peace was a cautionary tale.

Not a movie blueprint.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 11, 2025 04:38 PM (O7pnU)

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"We're gonna print money with this IP!"
-Cannon Group

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:38 PM (GBKbO)

130 Typical executive behavior.
Posted by: Don't bring me no bad news at July 11, 2025 04:36 PM (TbWk/)

I've worked for people like that, but never to that extent. And never with people's actual lives on the line.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 04:38 PM (uCjyK)

131 It’s too bad about Superman. I was genuinely looking forward to it. And I’m not a comic book movie guy but Superman is the exception. Trailers looked woke free.

Oh well.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 04:39 PM (ImXfC)

132 Anything you guys can recommend?

watch old movies/tv shows. I used to watch them for reasons of nostalgia (and laugh at the occasional bad acting from secondary actors) but, they seemed to have better ideas , back in the day, for reasons I just don't quite get. Give B movie series a chance like the Falcon, Boston Blackie, The Lone Wolf, Inner Sanctum, Charlie Chan...they won't cause nightmares or the feeling you need to shower afterwards...or watch something new, that's ...mid...

Posted by: zigggggy at July 11, 2025 04:39 PM (K5Rdg)

133 88 I liked Gunn's Guardians of the Galaxy movies. Don't know if I have seen anything else he's done. He is quite an ahole however
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 11, 2025 04:32 PM (JtH6i)

Slither is a really fun horror comedy of his, with a great cast.

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at July 11, 2025 04:39 PM (jYRYu)

134 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 04:37 PM (uCjyK)

Of course not, but I think that's her motivation. I've never been at a bar at closing time and if I went there to pick up guys I think the spouse would object.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2025 04:39 PM (2GCMq)

135 @37

>>The thing about Gunn is that he's...undisciplined as a writer and goes big all the time.

The biggest criticism I've heard about this film is that there are too many instances where Gunn takes a serious moment and interrupts with comedy.

Well, anyone who has watched Superman The Movie would know that that had loads of serious moments interspersed with comedic bits.

I think I'm going to like this film.

As they say, we shall see.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 04:40 PM (XV/Pl)

136 "The Human Way" sounds weird to me. It sounds like "The Human Stain". It doesn't bring good thoughts to mind.

Posted by: Dave at July 11, 2025 04:40 PM (sbsMc)

137 It’s too bad about Superman. I was genuinely looking forward to it. And I’m not a comic book movie guy but Superman is the exception. Trailers looked woke free.

Oh well.

I think it's probably impossible to get me to watch another SH movie. It's done, done, done as a genre.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2025 04:40 PM (Riz8t)

138 The movie *is* woke free—even if the people making it have been pushing that angle in discussions about it.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 11, 2025 04:40 PM (0ZQDV)

139 There are no cheap shots against conservatives, no girlboss moments, and a general message of being kind and looking for the best in others. The movie itself is a love letter to the Superman of the Silver Age of comics, and if you enjoyed the trailers you will probably enjoy the movie.
Posted by: Open Channel D at July 11, 2025 04:35 PM (0ZQDV)

There's also a thing where directors make a movie that the audience interprets in their own way and can't be shaken. The first Joker comes to mind, and the director sabotaged the sequel just to try and spite the audience. Starship Troopers is another.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 04:40 PM (8avO+)

140
I still don't really understand what his end goal was.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes

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Wasn't he going to make Titanic tourism cheap and accessible with that lo-cost lightweight carbon fiber hull?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 04:40 PM (UmB+t)

141 It’s too bad about Superman. I was genuinely looking forward to it. And I’m not a comic book movie guy but Superman is the exception. Trailers looked woke free.

The general consensus among people who've seen it is that it *is* woke-free, but it's just not very good.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 11, 2025 04:40 PM (2ocoG)

142 Of course not, but I think that's her motivation. I've never been at a bar at closing time and if I went there to pick up guys I think the spouse would object.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2025 04:39 PM (2GCMq)

Could be. And yes, I would hope your spouse would not allow that!

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 04:40 PM (uCjyK)

143 135 The biggest criticism I've heard about this film is that there are too many instances where Gunn takes a serious moment and interrupts with comedy.

Well, anyone who has watched Superman The Movie would know that that had loads of serious moments interspersed with comedic bits.

I think I'm going to like this film.

As they say, we shall see.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 04:40 PM (XV/Pl)

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I can like Gunn a lot. Guardians 3 is kind of special.

But I suspect my reaction (when I see it on Max in a few months) will be closer to my reaction to Suicide Squad:

"Why are all of these characters in this story that's not theirs?"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:40 PM (GBKbO)

144 125 I'm too old to care about comic book heroes. But I care about the BBB codifying the $32k standard deduction and adding a new $12k deduction for seniors.

Why? Because we can now start converting our IRAs to Roth's to the tune of $30k+ per year while staying in the 11% bracket. This means we have 4 years to convert IRA dollars before Uncle Sam starts with RMDs to tax our life's savings at a higher rate.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov
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I have been told by principled conservatarians that the BBB was a bad thing for everyone.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 04:41 PM (ctrM5)

145 >>>138 The movie *is* woke free—even if the people making it have been pushing that angle in discussions about it.

I believe you but their comments have put me off it.

Posted by: ace at July 11, 2025 04:41 PM (KRtlO)

146 >>>I think it's probably impossible to get me to watch another SH movie. It's done, done, done as a genre.

so what you're saying is you're ready for MCU Phase 14?

Posted by: Disney at July 11, 2025 04:41 PM (jGJov)

147 Wasn't he going to make Titanic tourism cheap and accessible with that lo-cost lightweight carbon fiber hull?

Aren't there treaties in place that would prevent that?

Posted by: Ian S. at July 11, 2025 04:41 PM (2ocoG)

148 >>> Posted by: Open Channel D at July 11, 2025 04:35 PM (0ZQDV)

The review I linked above includes a spoiler - it says one of the (female!) secondary "heroes" straight up murders one of the minor villains. A little skeevy to me since this seems to be a new trend.

Not arguing your general impression, but it doesn't encourage me to see the movie after the douchey comments by the Gunns, let alone the tidbit I mention.

I wonder if Elric's on to something:

>>> 16
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I continue to believe they've seen something that's got them spooked on the potential box office, and this is battlespace prep to try to pre-spin an underperforming result. It seems beyond insane that yet another studio with yet another hugely expensive tentpole movie would allow some slapdick shitmonger to shit on half the movie's potential audience.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 04:21 PM (iFTx/)

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 11, 2025 04:41 PM (ULPxl)

149 @133 didn't know Gunn did Slither. That was pretty good

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 11, 2025 04:41 PM (JtH6i)

150 145 Posted by: ace at July 11, 2025 04:41 PM (KRtlO)

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You wounded me, ace, by the way.

Very ouch.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:41 PM (GBKbO)

151 Isn't there a quote about how Liberals love humanity, but hate people, but Conservatives love individual people, but don't like the public.

something like that . If there isn't a quote like that, there should be.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 11, 2025 04:42 PM (8LN1t)

152 Posted by: zigggggy at July 11, 2025 04:39 PM (K5Rdg)

_________________________

William Powell and Myrna Loy in the Thin Man series was always fun. Smart ass drunks are always fun.

Posted by: Orson at July 11, 2025 04:42 PM (dIske)

153 So it turns out that the late great Jim Sunk New Dawn was a dear friend of Kim Du Toit's.
Kim wrote a blog post (including pictures) about the loss of his good friend who was even more than we knew him to be.
https://tinyurl.com/Jim-SND
Please spread this around as far and wide as you can here and elsewhere since it deserves as many eyeballs as we can give it and I don't want any of us who knew him from here to miss it.
He was quite a guy wasn't he???
Just broadcasting this as far and wide as I can

Posted by: MAxIE at July 11, 2025 04:42 PM (p0Y4o)

154 116 108 His 'The Suicide Squad' movie is very good. Not the first movie, which was just "Suicide Squad" (no "the"). Definitely worth a rental
Posted by: ace at July 11, 2025 04:35 PM (KRtlO)

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Gunn's Suicide Squad has underwhelmed me both times I've tried it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer

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I thought they were both good in ways and weird in ways. Idris Elba was cool as always. John Cena is annoying but otherwise liked the casts in both. I did like Jared Leto's Joker and Ben Affleck's Batman but c'est la vie...

Posted by: bearski at July 11, 2025 04:42 PM (Bhsk7)

155 Clarkson's Farm 3 was good. Soon, I will get to 4.

Posted by: Accomack at July 11, 2025 04:43 PM (28cZF)

156 Wasn't he going to make Titanic tourism cheap and accessible with that lo-cost lightweight carbon fiber hull?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 04:40 PM (UmB+t)

It was never going to be cheap, getting out to the Titanic's location with a ship big enough to move and recover the sub, the ships crew, an entire support staff for the sub, etc. is the prohibitively expensive part. You could do it with a smaller support ship using carbon fiber, since it was light in comparison to metal. But I doubt he was making any money even at $250,000 a head.

But his stated goal was to have subs diving all around the world, I think Titanic diving was mostly for marketing / advertising.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 04:43 PM (uCjyK)

157 Swedish National Socialism had a slim chance until they allowed a world invasion to join in

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 04:43 PM (+qU29)

158 I listen to Adam Carolla in the morning before work. The other day, I was pretty deep in a project and just left it running for background noise, and the Music app just popped in a "classic" episode from maybe 10 or 12 years ago.

Oddly enough, the guest was James Gunn. I don't watch Hollywood bullshit and know nothing about the guy, except that Ace doesn't like him. I listened to hear if Ace is wrong. He's not.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2025 04:44 PM (BI5O2)

159 Afternoon, folken,

After a tough morning (more on that anon), I could use a nice movie-related thread. Thanks, Ace!

I am very disappointed in Charlize Theron. Not for picking up a 26-year-old; for talking about it in public, and in such gutter language. And the "I'm glad I don't have to run everything past some man." Is every H'wood celebrity infected with that attitude, or is it just every one who makes it into general media?

If the new Superman flick is Silver Age-styled, I'll give it a try. I loved the Christopher Reeve films, I and II anyway, for having just that sort of flavor. I don't mind the "human way" stuff because Superman, in the Silver Age comics I grew up on, was always shown to be a literal citizen of the world -- I recall being told in one story, or an editorial comment, that he had been given citizenship in every country on Earth. "Human Way" does not wipe out "American Way," not if the "human way" includes morals and kindness. If the film starts explicitly bashing America, though . . .

I remember Sean Gunn in a lot of Gilmore Girls episodes. I didn't know he was related to James Gunn.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2025 04:44 PM (omVj0)

160 >>> 150 145 Posted by: ace at July 11, 2025 04:41 PM (KRtlO)

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You wounded me, ace, by the way.

Very ouch.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:41 PM (GBKbO)

What'd he do that was worse than say, calling you a glowie???

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 11, 2025 04:44 PM (ULPxl)

161 Sounds like it sucks. The human way includes Holodomor, the Holocaust and the Killing fields, so fuck that shit.

Posted by: night lifted at July 11, 2025 04:44 PM (/YboP)

162 160 What'd he do that was worse than say, calling you a glowie???
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 11, 2025 04:44 PM (ULPxl)

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He mentions me in the OBBB post.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:45 PM (GBKbO)

163 I thought the movie was good and warranted seeing it on a big screen. I’m a big fan of Superman though. I was adopted as an infant and my mother used the story of Superman to explain the concept of adoption to me, and I have had a fondness for the character ever since. I also hated the Snyderverse version of Superman so I have been looking forward to a more comic accurate version, and this movie delivered that for me.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 11, 2025 04:45 PM (0ZQDV)

164 William Powell and Myrna Loy in the Thin Man series was always fun. Smart ass drunks are always fun.
Posted by: Orson at July 11, 2025 04:42 PM (dIske)

And the dog? What about the dog?

Posted by: Asta at July 11, 2025 04:45 PM (PiwSw)

165 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 04:40 PM (uCjyK)

He'd be asleep, and I am up at 5:00 as is he Even I wanted to I could not stay up till 1:00 . Women do stupid stuff when it's really about their feeling lonely and wanting appreciation.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2025 04:45 PM (2GCMq)

166 Does Lois Lane show us her tits?

Posted by: wth at July 11, 2025 04:45 PM (v0R5T)

167 “I guess I just prayed too much”: Alabama couple welcomes triplets after 10 years of infertility 🙌

https://is.gd/9HopCX

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Maybe praying wasn't the only thing she was doing too much.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 11, 2025 04:45 PM (L/fGl)

168 I've no problem welcoming new Americans and those foreigners who are here legally. If not legal, get the fu*k out!
Posted by: Diogenes

The Democrats and their insistence that we can't kick out criminal foreigners even if they came in legally has convinced me that we can't let in foreigners, period.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 11, 2025 04:45 PM (a+4eV)

169 William Powell and Myrna Loy in the Thin Man series was always fun. Smart ass drunks are always fun.
Posted by: Orson at July 11, 2025

***
Nora Charles: "Just how many bars *have* you been thrown out of, Mr. Charles?"

Nick Charles: "That would be all of them, Mrs. Charles."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2025 04:45 PM (omVj0)

170 I have been told by principled conservatarians that the BBB was a bad thing for everyone.
Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 04:41 PM (ctrM5)

It’s bad for the country. But like all massive government boondoggle bills, there are some favored groups who come out nicely ahead, at the expense of everyone else.

Obamacare destroyed health insurance. But it was great for lots of people who got more welfare.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 04:46 PM (ImXfC)

171 We're visiting my wife's grandfather and last night he told me he's watching Californication.

Which is a show that makes me believe that I could easily make a show.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 11, 2025 04:46 PM (j/vBG)

172 160 >>> 150 145 Posted by: ace at July 11, 2025 04:41 PM (KRtlO)

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You wounded me, ace, by the way.

Very ouch.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,

What'd he do that was worse than say, calling you a glowie???
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
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You cannot spell glowie without the owie!

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 04:46 PM (ctrM5)

173 I thought the movie was good and warranted seeing it on a big screen. I’m a big fan of Superman though. I was adopted as an infant and my mother used the story of Superman to explain the concept of adoption to me, and I have had a fondness for the character ever since. I also hated the Snyderverse version of Superman so I have been looking forward to a more comic accurate version, and this movie delivered that for me.
Posted by: Open Channel D at July 11, 2025

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I'm glad to hear that.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2025 04:46 PM (omVj0)

174 The Democrats and their insistence that we can't kick out criminal foreigners even if they came in legally has convinced me that we can't let in foreigners, period.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 11, 2025 04:45 PM (a+4eV)

Look how democrats, even Schumer, support Khalil, who would kill him. No foreign students, just kick them out.

Posted by: night lifted at July 11, 2025 04:47 PM (/YboP)

175 He'd be asleep, and I am up at 5:00 as is he Even I wanted to I could not stay up till 1:00 . Women do stupid stuff when it's really about their feeling lonely and wanting appreciation.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2025 04:45 PM (2GCMq)

Bars are open until 4 am in these parts, so you could always just wake up a little early. (I kid, I kid)

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 04:47 PM (uCjyK)

176 Sounds like it sucks. The human way includes Holodomor, the Holocaust and the Killing fields, so fuck that shit.
Posted by: night lifted at July 11, 2025 04:44 PM (/YboP)

Those are examples of inhumanity. We just have to choose humanity to avoid them.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 04:48 PM (8avO+)

177 One of the reasons for the inclusion of the other heroes in the movie is to draw a comparison between corporate sponsored heroes who care little for life or collateral damage, and Superman who doesn’t want to see anyone get hurt.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 11, 2025 04:49 PM (0ZQDV)

178
"The Human Way" sounds weird to me. It sounds like "The Human Stain". It doesn't bring good thoughts to mind.
Posted by: Dave

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Reminds me of "To Serve Man."

But if the movie is actually good, then chalk up another one for bad verbiage.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 04:49 PM (UmB+t)

179 Those are examples of inhumanity. We just have to choose humanity to avoid them.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 04:48 PM (8avO+)

LOL, are you suggesting that they weren't perpetrated by humans? Ridiculous.

Posted by: night lifted at July 11, 2025 04:50 PM (/YboP)

180
I wonder what the "Leave it to Beaver" remake would be like.

Posted by: Auspex at July 11, 2025 04:50 PM (TUCTx)

181 Communists ruin everything.

Posted by: Frank Barone at July 11, 2025 04:50 PM (IifOV)

182 My morning looked to be rough, and yet I survived. As we prepared to take big black Stirling to the vet, the Buick refused to start. It gave me "Battery Saver Mode Activated," and displayed some Linux code (!) on the instrument panel.

AAA diagnosed it as "merely" a weakened battery, not a problem with alternator or voltage regulator, and got the car running. We canceled Stirling's appointment and drove a long ways to a Walmart, charging the battery. Everything has been fine. I'll buy a new one -- this one is 2.5 years old -- after I'm recovered from my surgery next week.

So, not a good start to my Friday. This news about the Superman film is heartening.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2025 04:50 PM (omVj0)

183 Silver Lining is Superman is a straight white guy. Could have easily been a 1/2 Asian, 1/4 LatinX, 1/8 Black 1/8 Native American tranny.

So kudos to Gunn for that. 🤪

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 04:51 PM (ImXfC)

184 John Nolte has an intriguing take on the new Superman movie: that's it's subversively conservative by sheer accident. (Sort of how Joss Whedon accidentally made a subversively conservative show with Firefly.)

Spoiler alert for one of the hugest plot twists, incoming...

*spoiler*

"...And this is where dumb-ass Gunn accidentally goes full MAGA...the movie ends up explicitly sending the following message: Superman is a good man for only one reason--he was raised by Normal People (Ma and Pa Kent) in middle America (a Kansas Farm) where he was ASSIMILATED into this good man using traditional values and Western values. Had he been influenced by the imported Kryptonian values of conquer and rule (which sound an awful lot like some of the unassimilated third world barbarians that have been allowed into America), the world would've been doomed. In other words, diversity is not our strength, says SUPERMAN. Instead, our strength comes from a unified culture tha believes in freedom and the importance of every human life.""

Wish Nolte's movie stuff wasn't all behind a stupid paywall. More people need to see his messages on the culture, instead of preaching only to the conservative choir.

Posted by: LizLem at July 11, 2025 04:51 PM (gWBY1)

185 So Superman is now a short brown gay person that thinks he should be entitled. Yeah, I'll pass.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 04:51 PM (/U5Yz)

186 170 I guess my 50 years of productivity contributing to America makes me part of a "favored group." Sounds right.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 11, 2025 04:51 PM (wBaIH)

187 Those are examples of inhumanity. We just have to choose humanity to avoid them.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 04:48 PM (8avO+)

LOL, are you suggesting that they weren't perpetrated by humans? Ridiculous.
Posted by: night lifted at July 11, 2025 04:50 PM (/YboP)

No. just tired of your word twisting.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 04:51 PM (8avO+)

188
First Richard Pryor ruining Superman, and now this.

Posted by: Frank Barone at July 11, 2025 04:52 PM (IifOV)

189 I think Fox News condemning the movie as woke because it highlights “immigration” actually hurts MAGA, because it paints a picture of rejecting immigrants in general, rather than being opposed to ILLEGAL immigration.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 11, 2025 04:52 PM (0ZQDV)

190 I'm having a hard time remembering the last movie I've seen. I mostly watch re-runs of Stargate SG-1 and the various Treks on Pluto.

Oh, wait, I remember now. It was that one about the guy who takes a job being experimented on, and he dies only to be cloned and go through the process again. Forget the title. Sounded like an interesting premise, but failed in the execution, I think.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at July 11, 2025 04:53 PM (OGOaV)

191 Wish Nolte's movie stuff wasn't all behind a stupid paywall. More people need to see his messages on the culture, instead of preaching only to the conservative choir.
Posted by: LizLem at July 11, 2025 04:51 PM (gWBY1)

I though Coneheads was a similarly subversive movie.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 11, 2025 04:53 PM (PiwSw)

192 Does Gunn know that General Zod is an immigrant too? Is it wrong to try to exile or imprison General Zod?

Posted by: Dave at July 11, 2025 04:53 PM (sbsMc)

193 149 @133 didn't know Gunn did Slither. That was pretty good
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 11, 2025 04:41 PM (JtH6i)

I like Slither. But it's basically just Night of the Creeps.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 04:53 PM (cBvpj)

194 180
I wonder what the "Leave it to Beaver" remake would be like.
Posted by: Auspex at July 11, 2025 04:50 PM (TUCTx)

Ward got fired from his job for sexually harassing a secretary, Mrs. Cleaver is now the wise cracking, smart, bread winner while Ward sits around drinking beer and being stupid all day.

Wally is nonbinary and polyamorous and is dating an ethnically ambiguous guy.

Beaver is black. He was adopted.

And Eddie Haskell has changed his ways once he came out as trans and realized he was living a lie for all of those years.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 04:53 PM (uCjyK)

195 'Truth, Justice, and the Human Way'
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Uh...but Superman specifically is not human.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 11, 2025 04:54 PM (XeU6L)

196 186 170 I guess my 50 years of productivity contributing to America makes me part of a "favored group." Sounds right.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 11, 2025 04:51 PM (wBaIH)

Obeying the law, paying taxes and not collecting government welfare is rayyycist.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 04:54 PM (ImXfC)

197 The "Midnight's Edge" guy on YouTube said that an obnoxious reporter was trolling, saying "so this is really about immigration right right right???" And James Gunn's brother bit on the bait, but Gunn himself just said something like "it's more about kindness".

I don't think this is going to be woke.

The Film Threat guys basically like it. They rated it, respectively, 6.5 and 7.5 out of 10. They also predicted it will blow up huge among teen boys.

I like the idea that this is just jumping in to a universe full of superheroes and supervillains, not rehashing Superman's origin story again. But it is apparently a young Superman, starting out his career, finding his place. We know from the trailer that he loses a fight, badly wounded, at some point. If handled well this will be a good hook for a plot, and I have liked other James Gunn movies so I am trusting him to do it well.

I'm planning to see this in the theater. I haven't gone to a theater in years.

Posted by: mr_jack at July 11, 2025 04:54 PM (eEDqM)

198 I agree with Nolte’s take: it is a conservative movie at its heart.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 11, 2025 04:54 PM (0ZQDV)

199 'Truth, Justice, and the Human Way'
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Uh...but Superman specifically is not human.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 11, 2025 04:54 PM (XeU6L)

He identifies as Human.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 04:55 PM (8avO+)

200 THEY POOPED ON THE POOP DECK JUST LIKE THE J6 INSURRECTIONISTS POOPED ON THE SACRED TEMPLE OF DEMOCRACY!!!!@!2`1!

Posted by: Stupid Typical Fucking Moonbat at July 11, 2025 04:55 PM (NHj0Y)

201 Ward got fired from his job for sexually harassing a secretary, Mrs. Cleaver is now the wise cracking, smart, bread winner while Ward sits around drinking beer and being stupid all day.

Wally is nonbinary and polyamorous and is dating an ethnically ambiguous guy.

Beaver is black. He was adopted.

And Eddie Haskell has changed his ways once he came out as trans and realized he was living a lie for all of those years.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 04:53 PM (uCjyK)

Whoa whoa slow down, we’re taking notes.
- Paramount Execs

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 04:55 PM (ImXfC)

202 "The Human Way," lol.

I suppose it's appropriate. After all, our media is trying to return us to the way things were before America and other Republics corrected them.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2025 04:55 PM (BI5O2)

203 Charlize has a potty mouth.

Posted by: wth at July 11, 2025 04:56 PM (v0R5T)

204 I watched the new Superman last night and I honestly enjoyed it. I don't recall ANY slogan making an appearance--not "Truth, Justice, and The American Way" and not some bastardization of it either.

No spoilers, I promise--but Superman seems to spend some time reflecting on his purpose, and what doing "right" is, but I didn't catch any overt messaging. Even the plot points that dealt with "technology country vs not-a-technology country" didn't purport to teach us anything that decent people wouldn't have already known. I enjoyed it, and I'm most assuredly to the right of most of "our" elected Republicans politically.

Posted by: Crusader at July 11, 2025 04:56 PM (TN0g+)

205 The movie goes to great links to show how much he has assimilated to our nation and world, even going so far to suggest that where he came from maybe wasn’t that such of a great place to begin with. Superman tangentially is about immigration, but it is the broader idea of immigration that is at the heart of this country. The politics of the film are presented in such a way that whatever your political views are, you could graft them onto the movie. In other words, they matter very little to the story. There are no cheap shots against conservatives, no girlboss moments, and a general message of being kind and looking for the best in others. The movie itself is a love letter to the Superman of the Silver Age of comics, and if you enjoyed the trailers you will probably enjoy the movie.
Posted by: Open Channel D at July 11, 2025

***
Even better!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2025 04:56 PM (omVj0)

206
Jimmy Gunn has always been a degenerate cocksucker. Goes back to when he was writing Troma films (watch Tromeo and Juliet for example). While Slither is a fun scifi flick, he ruins it by putting in behind the scenes footage on the DVD where he's a total piece of shit. Funny guy, but a really awful human being.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 11, 2025 04:56 PM (y9nCu)

207
his stated goal was to have subs diving all around the world, I think Titanic diving was mostly for marketing / advertising.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

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Something about cheap submersibles. That patented hull that goes SNAP SNAP SNAP all through the dive.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 04:56 PM (UmB+t)

208 Charlize was 15 when her mother (age 41) shot & killed her father (age 43), reportedly in self-defense.

The Pink News, Charlize Theron’s adopted daughters – Jackson and August – are officially living their best life
Nov 29 2024.

In part, "In 2019, Theron revealed that her eldest child XXXX, who was originally introduced to the world as a boy, was actually a girl."

Both kids are still young, were adopted from South Africa (where Theron was born) and are Black.

Another Madonna and also so many others. "For the children" but really for themselves.

Star power.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 11, 2025 04:57 PM (NFX2v)

209 I’m sure it’ll make a ton of money. It’s not outright fuck you middle America only a subtle middle finger.. So Joe 6 pack will plunk down $12 and be OK with being told he’s only a little racist.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 04:57 PM (ImXfC)

210 'Truth, Justice, and the Human Way'
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I never left the theatre during this movie, and I don't recall that line ever being uttered or appearing in print during the screening.

Posted by: Crusader at July 11, 2025 04:57 PM (TN0g+)

211 I saw the trailer for Superman.

The only thing that interests me is that it has Krypto the Superdog in it.

I don't think I've seen the dog in anything else.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 11, 2025 04:57 PM (6ydKt)

212 The human way has been slavery much more often than not. The left is attempting to turn back to slavery and as such the USA is its biggest opponent. Islam and socialism-communism are their biggest allies.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at July 11, 2025 04:57 PM (17s+e)

213
He identifies as Human.
Posted by: Oldcat
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Heh. Human curious. 'Say Lois, how about dinner tonight?'

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 11, 2025 04:57 PM (XeU6L)

214 “Truth, Justice, and the Human Way'
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I never left the theatre during this movie, and I don't recall that line ever being uttered or appearing in print during the screening.

….

That line does not appear in the movie.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 11, 2025 04:58 PM (0ZQDV)

215 "Anything you guys can recommend?"

Finally saw "Sinners" and I gotta say I thought it was damn good. The director uses music in a really great way, and it's a lot of old Delta blues, which I love. Plus, vampires.

Posted by: UGAdawg at July 11, 2025 04:58 PM (xP8uf)

216 Anything you guys can recommend?

The Wifey and I have just started a British series called 'Taskmaster', with episodes on YouTube. Five British comedians doing stupid events, but the fun thing is that the prizes they win at the end of the episode are a collection of possessions that the contestants themselves bring in. So they win their item back, plus the items brought by the other four.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at July 11, 2025 04:59 PM (M0V4/)

217 The Charlize Theron story reminds me of that minor scene in Mario Puzzo’s The Godfather (the book) where random men in Hollywood could go to a theater (probably not pr0n since this was set in the early 50s), and sit in the dark and watch a movie while aged-out movie actresses would sneak in and give them blowjobs.

The idea was these women had built their careers on the casting couch, gotten addicted to being desirable, but were now too old for that and not marriageable, so this scene was the only way they could feed that addiction.

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at July 11, 2025 04:59 PM (jYRYu)

218 No. just tired of your word twisting.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 04:51 PM (8avO+)

Same to you. The human way is at best a mixed bag, and excluding the word American is telling me to steer clear. I hope it fails.

Posted by: night lifted at July 11, 2025 04:59 PM (/YboP)

219 Superman is a great character. They just only ever get him right since Donner in bits and pieces (like the airplane scene in superman returns.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 11, 2025 04:59 PM (Yamow)

220 his stated goal was to have subs diving all around the world, I think Titanic diving was mostly for marketing / advertising.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

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Something about cheap submersibles. That patented hull that goes SNAP SNAP SNAP all through the dive.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 04:56 PM (UmB+t)

We can already make cheap submersibles. They are at any port that has pretty sea life already. Below the line where the light fades out there's not much to see aside from wrecks. And drones do the job better than people do and risk no lives.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 04:59 PM (8avO+)

221 'Truth, Justice, and the Human Way'
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Uh...but Superman specifically is not human.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 11, 2025 04:54 PM (XeU6L)

He identifies as Human.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025

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He grew up in a human culture, surrounded by humans, learned humans' moral codes and customs, and did not even meet another Kryptonian (I think) until he was into his adult years as a crimefighter. He lives as a human in his Clark Kent identity. He could hardly identify as any other species, even though he is.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2025 04:59 PM (omVj0)

222 Whoa whoa slow down, we’re taking notes.
- Paramount Execs
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 04:55 PM (ImXfC)

Oh, I have plenty more where that came from!

Let's talk the A-Team.

Instead of wrongly imprisoned Vietnam Vets, they're actually a group of women and trans activists who were wrongly accused of trying to kill an ICE agent, but escaped from jail with the help of "Howlin' Mad Murdaugh" who is actually a butch lesbian with a shaved head.

Mr. T is now Mx. T, and uses "xe / xim" pronouns, but keeps the name "Mister" to stick it to the patriarchy. Mr. T still drives a van, but this one is covered in a rainbow flag and has a stripper pole in the back in front of the cache of weapons.

Hannibal is now a trans woman who smokes joints instead of cigars, but she still "loves it when a plan comes together."

And Face is a barely closeted flamboyant gay man who -- well, I guess that character doesn't change much.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 05:00 PM (uCjyK)

223 I’m sure it’ll make a ton of money. It’s not outright fuck you middle America only a subtle middle finger.. So Joe 6 pack will plunk down $12 and be OK with being told he’s only a little racist.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 04:57 PM (ImXfC)

Eh, it doesn't matter if the movie tells Joe 6 pack he's an all around good dude. The movie will still be shit, and he'll still plunk it down.

It's all slop in the trough.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2025 05:00 PM (BI5O2)

224 Of all the souls I have encountered in my travels, his was the most... Human.

That was Kirk's highest praise for Spock.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 11, 2025 05:00 PM (PiwSw)

225 **Kryptonian values of conquer and rule (which sound an awful lot like some of the unassimilated third world barbarians that have been allowed into America),**

The Kryptonians sound like Viltrumites. Is James Gunn cribbing from "Invincible?"

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 11, 2025 05:00 PM (w0zR+)

226 I saw the trailer for Superman.

The only thing that interests me is that it has Krypto the Superdog in it.

I don't think I've seen the dog in anything else.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 11, 2025

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Really! That is a departure.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2025 05:00 PM (omVj0)

227 Polymarket has the movie at 57% to make $125M+ opening weekend.

And 41% to make $116-124M

How much does it need to be considered a success?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 05:01 PM (ImXfC)

228 "The Human Way," lol.

I suppose it's appropriate. After all, our media is trying to return us to the way things were before America and other Republics corrected them.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
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Removed from 'State of Nature' only by evolved polite society.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 11, 2025 05:01 PM (XeU6L)

229 Superman is a great character. They just only ever get him right since Donner in bits and pieces (like the airplane scene in superman returns.)

….

This is the first movie since Superman II in which they absolutely got the character right.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 11, 2025 05:01 PM (0ZQDV)

230 Recommendations for movies ? Nothing made in the last10 years... Maybe 20...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 11, 2025 05:01 PM (VE6XX)

231 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 05:00 PM (uCjyK)

Boy George wouldn't be out of place in this version.

Posted by: Mark1971 at July 11, 2025 05:01 PM (CNl8/)

232 215 "Anything you guys can recommend?"

Finally saw "Sinners" and I gotta say I thought it was damn good. The director uses music in a really great way, and it's a lot of old Delta blues, which I love. Plus, vampires.

Posted by: UGAdawg at July 11, 2025 04:58 PM (xP8uf)

It's on HBO Max now.
I was wondering if I should take a shot and watch it.

I'll have to check it out eventually.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 11, 2025 05:01 PM (6ydKt)

233 Of all the souls I have encountered in my travels, his was the most... Human.

That was Kirk's highest praise for Spock.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 11, 2025

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Good point. And yet Spock grew up among Vulcans -- though his human mother's influence would have been great.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2025 05:02 PM (omVj0)

234 And Face is a barely closeted flamboyant gay man who -- well, I guess that character doesn't change much.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

Ha!!

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 05:02 PM (ImXfC)

235 Apparently the movie makes the case that Superman's real strength isn't his physical power but his simple goodness and moral strength

So, Superman's real strength is the friends he made on the way?

Posted by: Chuck C at July 11, 2025 05:02 PM (D0HYP)

236 "I wonder what the "Leave it to Beaver" remake would be like."

Mom and Dad are divorced and gay. The older brother is a heroin addict. Beaver is trans. And Lumpy was murdered by someone wearing a MAGA cap.

Posted by: Nemo at July 11, 2025 05:02 PM (4RPgu)

237 The Kryptonians sound like Viltrumites. Is James Gunn cribbing from "Invincible?"
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 11, 2025 05:00 PM (w0zR+)

That is what I got when I heard about that bit.

I dislike invincible too.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 11, 2025 05:03 PM (Yamow)

238 Boy George wouldn't be out of place in this version.
Posted by: Mark1971 at July 11, 2025 05:01 PM (CNl8/)

Right, instead of Boy George making an awkward and questionable guest appearance, he is actually like a "Charlie" in Charlie's Angels figure.

And Hulk Hogan is also in this remake, but he's now a Hollywood Hogan-type heel wearing a red hat and supporting fascists, and he gets tangled up with the Team and is the only person in the shows history to be killed by the A-Teams bullets, and everyone claps.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 05:03 PM (uCjyK)

239 WB has stated that they will consider it a success if it surpasses $500 million. The movie looks to do well domestically but international ticket sales are not doing as well. Analysts think it will probably end up making around $600-750 million.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 11, 2025 05:03 PM (0ZQDV)

240 I watched predestination recently. I’d never seen it kinda forgot it existed.

As Larry David would say, pretty pretty….pretty good.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 05:04 PM (ImXfC)

241 He could hardly identify as any other species, even though he is.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere
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This

Posted by: Tarzan at July 11, 2025 05:04 PM (XeU6L)

242 And Lumpy was murdered by someone wearing a MAGA cap.
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I was going to guess Jardien's commercial....

Posted by: Crusader at July 11, 2025 05:04 PM (TN0g+)

243

William Powell and Myrna Loy in the Thin Man series was always fun. Smart ass drunks are always fun.

Posted by: Orson at July 11, 2025 04:42 PM (dIske)

Oh absolutely! Amazingly, all 6(7?) are very good...they in fact made 3 other non-Thin Man films (Double Wedding, I love You Again and Love Crazy) and they are way better than they have any right to be...just a great on-screen couple...

Posted by: zigggggy at July 11, 2025 05:04 PM (K5Rdg)

244 Enjoyed The Phoenician Scheme. Have to pay primo dough to rent or buy on Apple but it was worth it. Benicio del Toro is good at taking over Bill Murray’s lead role in Wes Anderson films. “Have a hand grenade.”

Posted by: Chunk at July 11, 2025 05:04 PM (Ca3FO)

245 The movie itself is a love letter to the Superman of the Silver Age of comics, and if you enjoyed the trailers you will probably enjoy the movie.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 11, 2025 04:35 PM (0ZQDV)

I'm there at 7pm tonight.

Sorry, Ace - I'm supporting the non-woke version to Supes we finally got. A return to a moral center and a good hero. One kids can look up to and want to be.

Posted by: Nova Local at July 11, 2025 05:04 PM (tOcjL)

246 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 05:00 PM (uCjyK)

I'm sure somebody already pitched something similar to a studio in the past decade.

They did an A-Team movie awhile back and it sucked as I recall.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 11, 2025 05:04 PM (6ydKt)

247 201 Ward got fired from his job for sexually harassing a secretary, Mrs. Cleaver is now the wise cracking, smart, bread winner while Ward sits around drinking beer and being stupid all day.

Wally is nonbinary and polyamorous and is dating an ethnically ambiguous guy.

Beaver is black. He was adopted.

And Eddie Haskell has changed his ways once he came out as trans and realized he was living a lie for all of those years.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 04:53 PM (uCjyK)
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The old comedy show SCTV had a sketch where Eddie Haskell was gay, and Beaver shot him. Ward was pouring whiskey into his breakfast cereal. I laughed.

Posted by: Stupid Typical Fucking Moonbat at July 11, 2025 05:04 PM (NHj0Y)

248 232 215 "Anything you guys can recommend?"

Finally saw "Sinners" and I gotta say I thought it was damn good. The director uses music in a really great way, and it's a lot of old Delta blues, which I love. Plus, vampires.

Posted by: UGAdawg at July 11, 2025 04:58 PM (xP8uf)

It's on HBO Max now.
I was wondering if I should take a shot and watch it.

I'll have to check it out eventually.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 11, 2025 05:01 PM (6ydKt)

I saw it too.

I don't think you'll regret watching it, if you like horror movies. It is never boring.

But it is hot mess overall. I can't really explain why without spoilers though.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 05:05 PM (cBvpj)

249 The idea that the Jor-El possibly wanted Superman to rule the earth originates with the Smallville show.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 11, 2025 05:05 PM (0ZQDV)

250 Boy George wouldn't be out of place in this version.
Posted by: Mark1971
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Jimmy Olsen?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 11, 2025 05:06 PM (XeU6L)

251 Superman came out in the late 30's right ?I see no reason to take away his catch phrase... They should have just left it be...My 2 cents worth..

Posted by: It's me donna at July 11, 2025 05:06 PM (VE6XX)

252 I'm sorry but as an 80s kid, Superman will always be Christopher Reeves to me.

Everybody else cast in that role has just been second best.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 11, 2025 05:06 PM (6ydKt)

253 First Richard Pryor ruining Superman, and now this.
Posted by: Frank Barone at July 11, 2025

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That movie could have been fixed. If the Pryor character had been played by, say, Eddie Murphy (though he was not a star yet), and he was a smart techbro like the guy in Die Hard, Theo, who was breaking into the vault while the McClane stuff was going on . . . and if they had showed us the billionaire, Robert Vaughn, and his tech guy pulling in something really dangerous to Superman like a chunk of Red Kryptonite, then we could have had a good story.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2025 05:07 PM (omVj0)

254 it's a lot of old Delta blues, which I love. Plus, vampires.

Posted by: UGAdawg at July 11, 2025 04:58 PM (xP8uf)

It looks like fun. And besides, it's hard to beat good music AND vampires!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at July 11, 2025 05:07 PM (L5An7)

255 Not a movie, but just finished the series The Good Place. I wasn't into it when I first watched a few episodes, but I stuck with it this time and it was surprisingly good.

Posted by: InZona at July 11, 2025 05:07 PM (UFl4K)

256 Hoopla and Kanopy are accessed with a library card. I just got my first library card in 40 years to access these streaming services. Well worth it.

Posted by: ToddF at July 11, 2025 05:07 PM (3cbmu)

257 Thinking maybe I'll watch Flow for the fifth time this weekend.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 11, 2025 05:08 PM (w0zR+)

258 I'm sorry but as an 80s kid, Superman will always be Christopher Reeves to me.

Everybody else cast in that role has just been second best.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 11, 2025

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Reeve amazed me. I'd grown up with George Reeves, and said "Nobody can top him." Then Chris, a real actor, proved me wrong and I was happy that he did.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2025 05:08 PM (omVj0)

259 I wonder what the "Leave it to Beaver" remake would be like.
Posted by: Auspex
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Starring Charlize Theron and a dozen 26 year old men.

Posted by: wth at July 11, 2025 05:08 PM (v0R5T)

260 Here's the thing.

If you watch low-budget trash all the time like me, you'll occasionally find a cool movie in the rough.

If you watch big Hollywood productions, you'll never see a cool movie. Ever. They're tapped out. No cool left.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2025 05:08 PM (BI5O2)

261 257 Thinking maybe I'll watch Flow for the fifth time this weekend.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 11, 2025 05:08 PM (w0zR+)

I didn't understand that movie

Posted by: It's me donna at July 11, 2025 05:08 PM (VE6XX)

262 Jimmy Olsen?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 11, 2025

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We've yet to see a real Jimmy Olsen in any of the movies or TV shows. Jimmy was young, but he was smart and he often got himself out of trouble without calling on Superman. The films have generally portrayed him as a doofus.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2025 05:09 PM (omVj0)

263 I don't think you'll regret watching it, if you like horror movies. It is never boring.

But it is hot mess overall. I can't really explain why without spoilers though.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 05:05 PM (cBvpj)

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I'm not into torture porn like Saw and whatnot.

But I don't mind some blood & gore occasionally if the plot is good.

Walking Dead or From Dusk Till Dawn level or so is fine.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 11, 2025 05:09 PM (6ydKt)

264 And Face is a barely closeted flamboyant gay man who -- well, I guess that character doesn't change much.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 05:00 PM (uCjyK)
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Dirk Benedict got so sick of Hollywood that he quit and raised his family in Idaho.

The only time he broke his silence was to denounced NuBattlestar Galactica's Girl Starbuck. Seriously based. No homo.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 05:09 PM (ZOv7s)

265 First Richard Pryor ruining Superman, and now this.
Posted by: Frank Barone at July 11, 2025

I have to admit I really liked the Superman battling himself scene.

Posted by: InZona at July 11, 2025 05:09 PM (UFl4K)

266
Hollywood has always hated Superman's motto. Bryan PedoSinger's Superman Returns had Perry White saying the line, with a change.

'Truth, Justice.... all that stuff!'

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 11, 2025 05:10 PM (y9nCu)

267 >>> Another Madonna and also so many others. "For the children" but really for themselves.

The birth parents of the boy Madonna adopted from Africa were horrified to see what she had done to their son. But they signed an ironclad adoption contract so there's nothing they can do.

Charlize Theron named her African charity AFTER HERSELF. She was speaking at it when she made those comments on how much Jeff Bezos sucks, probably miffed she couldn't hit on a newly single Orlando Bloom. And now he's banned her from any of his future events.

She was on the Call Her Daddy podcast and basically denounced love. I kind of feel bad for her, in that she doesn't know what actual love IS. No one who actually has had real love denounces it! She also made Sean Penn give up all his guns when they were dating. I'm sure every guy has an ex that made him give up something they regret.

Posted by: LizLem at July 11, 2025 05:10 PM (gWBY1)

268 a lot of bands show off all of their tricks and ideas in their first album and don't have much left on the shelves for the second.
Posted by: ace at July 11, 2025 04:26 PM (KRtlO)

This is about us, isn't it?

Posted by: Boston at July 11, 2025 05:10 PM (8hxDK)

269 Liberals Superhero is a gender confused, ass-pirating, carpet-munching, God-hating, Marxist philosophizing, dark or brown skinned, social justice/DEI warrior and illegal immigrant whose superpower is to shoot firecrackers out of xe’a ass at ICE Agents and hurl expletive, and nonsensical vomit at anyone who doesn’t agree with xe.

Oh, and it’s kryptonite is the truth.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 11, 2025 05:10 PM (TlT1q)

270 Before Donner was fired, the original idea for Superman III would have had Luthor back instead of Robert Vaughn, and teamed Luthor with Brainiac who would have created Bizarro to battle Superman. You can see bare traces of this in the much inferior actual version.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 11, 2025 05:11 PM (0ZQDV)

271 The "human way" is "might makes right!"

It will ever be thus.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at July 11, 2025 05:11 PM (VsYDF)

272 Reeve amazed me. I'd grown up with George Reeves, and said "Nobody can top him." Then Chris, a real actor, proved me wrong and I was happy that he did.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2025 05:08 PM (omVj0)

I can understand that if you grew up watching the TV show.

I never saw an episode of it until it turned up on cable in the recent past.

I've still only seen a few episodes of the show, but George Reeves seemed pretty good in the role.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 11, 2025 05:11 PM (6ydKt)

273 I'm not into torture porn like Saw and whatnot.

But I don't mind some blood & gore occasionally if the plot is good.

Walking Dead or From Dusk Till Dawn level or so is fine.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 11, 2025 05:09 PM (6ydKt)

The violence level should not give you any problems.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 05:11 PM (cBvpj)

274 He could hardly identify as any other species, even though he is.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere
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This
Posted by: Tarzan at July 11, 2025

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Forgive me, Lord Greystoke, but you spent your formative years with the great apes, absorbing their customs and values (such as they were). I'm surprised you found Jane Porter attractive when you met her.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2025 05:12 PM (omVj0)

275 Sean Penn has guns? The guy who supports every far left democrat who want to ban guns. That guy own guns. 😂

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 05:12 PM (ImXfC)

276 Dirk Benedict got so sick of Hollywood that he quit and raised his family in Idaho.

The only time he broke his silence was to denounced NuBattlestar Galactica's Girl Starbuck. Seriously based. No homo.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 05:09 PM (ZOv7s)

He was good ! But, you know, Katee Sackhoff makes a great Bo-Katan Kryze, in Clone Wars, Rebels and Mandalorian.

Posted by: runner at July 11, 2025 05:12 PM (g47mK)

277 About the most movie violence I'll go for these days is Muppet Treasure Island.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 05:12 PM (uWKK8)

278 To cheer me up during a really dark time in my life, my daughter persuaded me to watch 'One Cut of the Dead' even though I wasn't in the mood for comedy. We laughed so hard our sides hurt. Every so often out of nowhere my daughter springs into a weird quasi-martial arts/fitness exercise pose a crazy woman uses in the movie and cracks us up all over again.

Love that movie. You must watch 'One Cut of the Dead'.

Posted by: troyriser at July 11, 2025 05:13 PM (DPeYO)

279 Gunn likes to share Pedo jokes.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 05:13 PM (VofaG)

280
I can understand that if you grew up watching the TV show.

I never saw an episode of it until it turned up on cable in the recent past.

I've still only seen a few episodes of the show, but George Reeves seemed pretty good in the role.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 11, 2025

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He was quite good. His Clark did not seem very "mild-mannered," though, but more like a solid reporter in the movies' mold.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2025 05:13 PM (omVj0)

281 @258

>>Reeve amazed me. I'd grown up with George Reeves, and said "Nobody can top him." Then Chris, a real actor, proved me wrong and I was happy that he did.

The defining quality of Superman is his smile and optimism, Reeve and Reeves had it, Dean Cane had it, Tom Welling had it.

Sadly, Henry Cavill was never allowed to smile as Superman, so, ultimately, he was a sub-par Superman.

This Cornsweat kid looks like he has the goods.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 05:13 PM (XV/Pl)

282 Hey, Jimmy Gunn, the pedophile.

We are all just fine eith legal immigrants who enter the country properly.

We aren't with foreign invaders who break the law to get here.

Sadly, you're too fucking stupid to know the difference.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 11, 2025 05:13 PM (/RHNq)

283 He was good ! But, you know, Katee Sackhoff makes a great Bo-Katan Kryze, in Clone Wars, Rebels and Mandalorian.
Posted by: runner at July 11, 2025 05:12 PM (g47mK)

Katie Sackhoff's best character ever was Bitch Puddin'.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 05:13 PM (uWKK8)

284 Since this is an actual movie thread...I'm thinking of watching the Conjuring series, the trailer for the final movie in the franchise looks pretty decent. Anyone like it? Do I watch it in order of its actual timeline, or the order the movies were released in?

Posted by: LizLem at July 11, 2025 05:13 PM (gWBY1)

285 **I didn't understand that movie**

A cute cat survives a post-apocalyptic flood with help from a goofy golden retriever, Secretary Bird Jesus, and an alien whale.

Easy to understand.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 11, 2025 05:13 PM (w0zR+)

286 270 Before Donner was fired, the original idea for Superman III would have had Luthor back instead of Robert Vaughn, and teamed Luthor with Brainiac who would have created Bizarro to battle Superman. You can see bare traces of this in the much inferior actual version.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 11, 2025 05:11 PM (0ZQDV)

OK, but wtf was going on with Superman IV?
What a mess that one was.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 11, 2025 05:13 PM (6ydKt)

287 Katie Sackhoff's best character ever was Bitch Puddin'.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 05:13 PM (uWKK

yeah, I don't know that one. no Robo Chicken or whatever

Posted by: runner at July 11, 2025 05:14 PM (g47mK)

288 Last night watched a truly strange western, 'The Outrage'. Cast and plot rather bizarre, because:

"The Outrage is a 1964 American Western film directed by Martin Ritt and starring Paul Newman, Laurence Harvey, Claire Bloom, Edward G. Robinson and William Shatner.

It is a remake of Akira Kurosawa's 1950 Japanese film Rashomon, based on stories by Ryūnosuke Akutagawa, adapted to an American setting."

At the end I thought, 'What the hell did I just watch?'

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 11, 2025 05:14 PM (XeU6L)

289 Family Ties in 2025 would have a maga family with Alex Keaton the progressive who teaches them all valuable lessons every week.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 05:14 PM (ImXfC)

290 George Reeves portrayed a much harder edged Kent than was common to the comics of the day, but it suited the series, especially the more adult and sometimes noir-ish first season.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 11, 2025 05:14 PM (0ZQDV)

291 I didn't even consider serial/episodic productions. Those have become *vile.* Heinous. The movies are awful. But G-d forbid you watch one of those. Just buy a 4 pound hammer and smash it on your dick once a week (or 12 times a day if you're a binge watcher).

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2025 05:14 PM (BI5O2)

292 Air India 171 report finding: both fuel control switches were found set to 'cutoff!' These switches have sleeve detents on them; VERY unlikely impact forces could switch them.

Cripes.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 05:14 PM (TwZXH)

293 A cute cat survives a post-apocalyptic flood with help from a goofy golden retriever, Secretary Bird Jesus, and an alien whale.

Easy to understand.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 11, 2025 05:13 PM (w0zR+)

So it is as strange as I remember

Posted by: It's me donna at July 11, 2025 05:15 PM (VE6XX)

294 THere is no better Superman than the late Christopher Reeve.

Posted by: runner at July 11, 2025 05:15 PM (g47mK)

295 277 About the most movie violence I'll go for these days is Muppet Treasure Island.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 05:12 PM (uWKK

You can always count on Miss Piggy for some good ol' ultra violence.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 11, 2025 05:15 PM (6ydKt)

296 Truth, Justice, and the Human Way

So close!

Posted by: The Human League at July 11, 2025 05:15 PM (D0HYP)

297 This guy makes a good story - >

Lucien Wolfe@nuclear_zero1 . 31m

They won’t say it publicly, but this isn’t about Bongino vs. Bondi.
It’s about who controls the evidence.

Back in 2018, Bondi was handed sealed access to Epstein’s metadata archives, including names, encrypted comms, and—most crucially—video footage.
Not the client list. The kompromat.

Bongino found out she wasn’t just withholding names—
She was protecting assets. Assets that tie into foreign intel networks and a very specific island’s blackmail hub.

That’s why he drew the line:
Not because she’s “incompetent,”
But because she’s untouchable.

DOJ wanted her in. Trump didn’t block it. Bongino got the message.

This isn’t a feud. It’s a silent war.

Part 2: Why was Pam Bondi photographed entering Langley on a Sunday?

Who’s she really working for?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 05:15 PM (Ri+6K)

298 292 Air India 171 report finding: both fuel control switches were found set to 'cutoff!' These switches have sleeve detents on them; VERY unlikely impact forces could switch them.

Cripes.
Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 05:14 PM (TwZXH)

Yeah, saw that.

Pilot suicide or unbelievably offensive amount of lack of competence?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 05:16 PM (uCjyK)

299 The graphic novels "All Star Superman" (1+2) are proof that you CAN make a good superman story. Highly recommended. Surprisingly moving. James Gunn stole some of the imagery and characters from those novels to make this film, which really pisses me off.

Posted by: Max Power at July 11, 2025 05:16 PM (q177U)

300 I have to admit I really liked the Superman battling himself scene.
Posted by: InZona at July 11, 2025

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The "dark" Superman stuff, the scenes with Lana Lang (Annette O'Toole), and the way Robert Vaughn's character seemed truly to enjoy what he was doing, were all god stuff. It was Pryor's casting and character that ruined it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2025 05:16 PM (omVj0)

301 Corenswet is great in the movie. I would place him as a solid second to Christopher Reeve as far as best Superman.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 11, 2025 05:16 PM (0ZQDV)

302 Most recently watched "The Third Man" last night. Great film.

Also going through "Moonlighting" seasons 1-3. Show has held of very well. There was even an episode when Maddie whines about the Male Gaze and Addison replies "It wasn't a problem for you when you made millions as a model. What changed?"

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 05:16 PM (ZOv7s)

303 **Air India 171 report finding: both fuel control switches were found set to 'cutoff!' These switches have sleeve detents on them; VERY unlikely impact forces could switch them.**

So, suicide by old pilot about to retire, or young pilot fresh out of flight training?

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 11, 2025 05:16 PM (w0zR+)

304 294 THere is no better Superman than the late Christopher Reeve.

Posted by: runner at July 11, 2025 05:15 PM (g47mK)

He definitely had the face for it.

I liked his bumbling, stuttering, Clark Kent, too.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 11, 2025 05:17 PM (6ydKt)

305 George Reeves portrayed a much harder edged Kent than was common to the comics of the day, but it suited the series, especially the more adult and sometimes noir-ish first season.
Posted by: Open Channel D at July 11, 2025

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True. Though the second season started off very well, with my favorite episode, "Five Minutes to Doom." Superman crashing through the prison wall, literally in the shadow of the electric chair . . . Wow.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2025 05:17 PM (omVj0)

306 Nood. Bondi.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 11, 2025 05:18 PM (Wnv9h)

307 >>> Sean Penn has guns? The guy who supports every far left democrat who want to ban guns. That guy own guns. 😂 Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 05:12 PM (ImXfC)

Well, not after Charlize got her hands on him...

I always find it rich that feminist actresses that make their careers playing pistol packin' mamas (Atomic Blonde, Mad Max fury Road, Aeon Flux for Charlize) want to deny it as a source of protection for real, vulnerable women.

Posted by: LizLem at July 11, 2025 05:18 PM (gWBY1)

308 there is lot of BS going around about Bongino, Patel and Bondi and conspiracy theorist are all abuzz. But here is this: "In a Friday morning social media post, Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche wrote that he worked closely with Patel and Bongino on the memo and that all three officials signed off on the memo’s contents and conclusions.

“The suggestion by anyone that there was any daylight between the FBI and DOJ leadership on this memo’s composition and release is patently false,” Blanche wrote."

I believe it , since that is how it is done - all of them sign off on it.

Posted by: runner at July 11, 2025 05:18 PM (g47mK)

309 Amy Adams was the best Lois Lane.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 05:18 PM (/U5Yz)

310 Ace, thanks for letting me ramble about Superman. The character is a hobby of mine and I have enjoyed the discussion.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 11, 2025 05:19 PM (0ZQDV)

311 to make that kind of statement...they all had to agree

Posted by: runner at July 11, 2025 05:19 PM (g47mK)

312 THere is no better Superman than the late Christopher Reeve.

Posted by: runner at July 11, 2025 05:15 PM (g47mK)

He definitely had the face for it.

I liked his bumbling, stuttering, Clark Kent, too.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 11, 2025

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His Clark, I've read, was modeled on Cary Grant's bumbling paleontologist in Bringing Up Baby. He also read the comics and modeled his "swimming through the air" poses on Curt Swan's iconic artwork from the comics.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2025 05:19 PM (omVj0)

313 No one else seems to like it but I really loved the new Daredevil: Born Again series. Yeah, yeah, it's Disney+. We cancelled it but then got it bundled when we switched to another carrier.

Posted by: Max Power at July 11, 2025 05:19 PM (q177U)

314 They need to do a live-action film with Bizarro Superman in it.

He's been in animated films, but I don't think they've had him in a movie.

I'd see that if it's done well enough.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 11, 2025 05:19 PM (6ydKt)

315 Captain America really not to fond of America

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 05:19 PM (VofaG)

316 "Was Pam Bondi photographed entering Langley on a Sunday?"

grok's answer:

There is no definitive evidence or credible report confirming that Pam Bondi was photographed entering Langley (CIA headquarters) on a Sunday. I checked available sources, including recent news and social media, and found no specific mention or verified images of such an event. Without concrete evidence, this appears to be an unverified claim or rumor. If you have a specific source or image in question, I can analyze it further for authenticity.en.wikipedia.org
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Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 05:20 PM (Ri+6K)

317 Oh, I forgot to mention when I got home last night I watched a Western on GritTV where Ronald Reagan played a Confederate Officer who ultimately ends up ordering his troops to rescue an Union fort in the west that is about to be destroyed by a collection of Apache forces under the command of Cochise and Geronimo!

Once upon a time movies and books and comics still embraced the notion that not everything about the Confederacy was vile and unredeemable.

Posted by: Crusader at July 11, 2025 05:20 PM (TN0g+)

318 217 The Charlize Theron story reminds me of that minor scene in Mario Puzzo’s The Godfather (the book) where random men in Hollywood could go to a theater (probably not pr0n since this was set in the early 50s), and sit in the dark and watch a movie while aged-out movie actresses would sneak in and give them blowjobs.

The idea was these women had built their careers on the casting couch, gotten addicted to being desirable, but were now too old for that and not marriageable, so this scene was the only way they could feed that addiction.

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at July 11, 2025 04:59 PM (jYRYu)

dammit, sometimes I feel like I missed a lot of the good stuff in life.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 05:20 PM (uWKK8)

319 His Clark, I've read, was modeled on Cary Grant's bumbling paleontologist in Bringing Up Baby. He also read the comics and modeled his "swimming through the air" poses on Curt Swan's iconic artwork from the comics.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2025 05:19 PM (omVj0)

I've seen that movie and yeah, that makes perfect sense now that I think about it.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 11, 2025 05:20 PM (6ydKt)

320 I saw the teaser trailer for Hail Mary, the film adaptation of a book by the same name written by the author of The Martian. The book was pretty good; the trailer looked very good.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at July 11, 2025 05:21 PM (bNf8H)

321 259 I wonder what the "Leave it to Beaver" remake would be like.
Posted by: Auspex
......

Starring Charlize Theron and a dozen 26 year old men.
Posted by: wth at July 11, 2025 05:08 PM (v0R5T)
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Eddie Haskell would be running a meth lab out of the high school chemistry department. But, they'd take him down on a sexual harassment charge for using the wrong pronoun. And, in case you're wondering. They'd set him up as a proud member of the MAGA party. Beaver and Lumpy would be gay.

Posted by: Orson at July 11, 2025 05:21 PM (dIske)

322 Corenswet, like Reeve, is a Juilliard graduate and acts the part very well, effectively creating 3 characters: Superman, public Clark Kent, and how he is with people who know his secret.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 11, 2025 05:23 PM (0ZQDV)

323
"Anything you guys can recommend?"

Finally saw "Sinners" and I gotta say I thought it was damn good. The director uses music in a really great way, and it's a lot of old Delta blues, which I love. Plus, vampires.

Posted by: UGAdawg at July 11, 2025 04:58 PM (xP8uf)

The movie itself is basically "Feast" or "Legion", or 60 other "humans barricade themselves in a single location to battle the Forces of Evil but totes not a rehash of Assault on Precinct 13" flicks. But the two big musical numbers, by the humans doing blues/rock/rap/jazz or the vampires doing country/Celtic Irish are absolutely amazing.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 11, 2025 05:25 PM (y9nCu)

324 Huge recommendation for Becoming Led Zeppelin.
If you are even a little bit of a fan, you'll love it.

My wife probably only knew (and not by name) 3-4 of their songs going in and found it entertaining and interesting as a period piece of the end of the 60's.

Posted by: Little Larry Sellers at July 11, 2025 05:25 PM (xaNfJ)

325 I wonder what the "Leave it to Beaver" remake would be like.
Posted by: Auspex

Still the Beaver was on from 83-89.

Posted by: Rancho Rutherford at July 11, 2025 05:26 PM (G5+As)

326 Eddie Haskell would be running a meth lab out of the high school chemistry department. But, they'd take him down on a sexual harassment charge for using the wrong pronoun. And, in case you're wondering. They'd set him up as a proud member of the MAGA party. Beaver and Lumpy would be gay.

Posted by: Orson at July 11, 2025 05:21 PM (dIske)

Ward went out for some cigarettes one night and never came back.

June is a single parent, who drives Uber during the day and tends bar at night. She dates her Boss who slaps Beaver around for being gay when June isn't looking.

Wally ran off after his Dad and the last anybody had heard of him he was selling Eddie's meth on the corner of the Main and 10th St. in downtown Mayfield.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 11, 2025 05:27 PM (6ydKt)

327 The most darkly amusing part of the whole situation (I've read a lot on the subject beyond just watching the documentary), is how cocky Stockton Rush (the now-squished CEO) was about everything.

Guy missed his calling as a politician.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 04:25 PM (uCjyK)

I've seen theories floating around that Stockton Rush wanted to commit suicide in the flashiest way possible and he chose that voyage so he could be linked to Titanic forever. Massive ego.

Unfortunately, he took four other people with him.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at July 11, 2025 05:27 PM (k9OZB)

328 Would definitely recommend "One Cut of the Dead". If it's on Shudder, and especially if you've already seen it, you can check out Joe Bob Brigg's hosting of it on "The Last Drive In" in which he delivered his now famous "Keep rolling..." speech.

"Train to Busan", of course, in the same zombie vein.

I recently saw a double-bill of "Repo Man" and "Return of the Living Dead". They hold up remarkably well.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 11, 2025 05:31 PM (asXVI)

329 Highly recommend F1, in fact, feel like it's being a bit overlooked (maybe because the creators haven't run around saying stupid things), so I'm recommending it to everybody!

Some might accuse it of some wokery, but it didn't come across like that to me. For example, the actress who played the Team therapist in Ted Lasso (she was excellently cast in that) plays the mother of the younger driver on the Team. It might be little unusual that a mom would travel around like that with her grown son, and one might think, oh this was just to get a black woman in the cast. But to me, she was a character I could relate to.

And the score includes both old time rock classics, and some new rap-ish stuff that the young folks probably like & know.

Feel like they put in A LOT of effort to make a crowd-pleasing movie. It is rated PG-13. There's a little sexy romance stuff and I suppose there's some bad words, but nothing overly offensive.

Pretty long, but extremely well paced. I know nothing about racing, and really enjoyed it.

Posted by: jocon307 at July 11, 2025 05:32 PM (EuROc)

330 I can recommend Dept. Q on Netflix, Deep Cover on Prime . Murderbot, based on Martha Wells' novella, on Apple is amusing. Last episode is tonight.

Posted by: Tuna at July 11, 2025 05:36 PM (lJ0H4)

331 Probably the worst movie I ever saw was 1984's "Weekend Pass". First ever date where I could drive. I was 16, she was 18. At least there were boobs involved in the end. IYKWIM. Totally made up for the movie.

Posted by: Turn 2 at July 11, 2025 05:45 PM (CyFyf)

332 Family Ties in 2025 would have a maga family with Alex Keaton the progressive who teaches them all valuable lessons every week.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 05:14 PM (ImXfC)

The intent of that show *was* for the liberal parents to do that. But Alex and Mallory "slipped the leash" and to their credit the show ran with it.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 05:50 PM (8avO+)

333 Big hat no cattle

Big ass no paddle

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 11, 2025 05:52 PM (NtVYv)

334 I think I need to rewatch Superman II.

Posted by: Texican ette at July 11, 2025 06:00 PM (SNf74)

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