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The Classical Saturday Morning Coffee Break & Prayer Revival

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Good morning boys and girls and everything in between. I certainly hope you have all of your fingers and toes this morning. Too late to pray for you not to blow those digits off.

Before we enter the Prayer Revival just a few housekeeping matters to go over. (Rulz for those of you in Plover)

1) This is an open thread. Feel free to lurk, opine and/or bloviate.
2) Be kind be nice. Even the trolls have warped feelings.
3) No running with sharp objects.
4) Have a great weekend!

*****


AoSHQ Weekly Prayer List

Please submit any prayer requests to me, “Annie’s Stew” at apaslo atsign hotmail dot com. Prayer requests are generally removed after four weeks unless we receive an update.

Prayer Requests:

5/3 – D asked for prayers for his wife, Susan, who has been having some issues. They went to the hospital on 5/1, and all the signs are pointing to pancreatic cancer. They meet with other doctors on 5/5. Any prayers would be a blessing.
6/5 Update – The doctors have confirmed it is cancer, but they have not yet determined if it can be removed, or if chemotherapy will be needed first, to shrink the mass. They are so thankful for all the prayers and ask for them to continue.
7/3 Update – D asked for everyone’s prayers. At Susan’s appointment on 7/1, the doctor didn’t like what he saw. Susan has been in a lot of pain and was admitted to the hospital for a few days. They send their thanks for the love and prayers.

5/10 – Cosda asked for prayers for his wife, who recently had a mole removed that came back as melanoma cancer. She is scheduled for surgery next week, and it looks like that should remove it completely.
6/20 Update – The PET and brain scans showed no active cancer cells, which is great. But since it’s melanoma, and cancer was found in a lymph node, she is going to receive immunotherapy for the next year. Thanks to all. The prayers are working!

5/17 – neverenoughcaffiene asked for prayers for her sister-in-law, Jackie, who is looking at dialysis. Her kidneys have been failing for several years is she is getting close based on her numbers. Hopefully new meds will help.
6/28 Update – Jackie is stabilized and is working on exercising to make her last vacation to Italy in October. Thank you for the prayers; they definitely helped.

5/24 – Captain Obvious requested prayers for his friend J, who will be having surgery on 6/9 to try and relieve her chronic pain. She also has concerns because she is on blood thinners and nearly bled out after her hip replacement. Please pray for the best possible outcome and also to relieve her anxiety.
6/12 Update – J had her surgery on 6/9 and it went very well; the surgeon had to do less work than he originally thought. J is already experiencing relief from the chronic pain she had. Thanks to all for the prayers.

5/29 – Teresa in Fort Worth sent an update and her thanks for all the prayers and words of encouragement. They have sustained her and her family as she continues to battle cancer. She continues to receive good news: her oncologist is quite pleased with her response to the current medication protocol; they are decreasing the lab work frequency to every other week instead of weekly; the side effects from chemo have been barely noticeable; she can just take 4 tiny pills for chemo instead of spending one day a week at the cancer center. It’s been 7 months so far, and she expects that at some point the tumors will start growing again, but for now, they are encouraged.
6/6 Update – Teresa has a side effect from the chemo – her fingernails and toenails are starting to loosen and “lift” off their nail beds. It is painful, and also carries a risk of infection.

6/4 – Grumpy and Recalcitrant asked for prayers for his mother (Lynda), asking to give her strength and healing. Also, for the medical staff to be prompted to do a complete and thorough job diagnosing her.
6/7 Update – Lynda has been diagnosed with aortic stenosis. This is a correctable medical issue using surgery where they go in endoscopically via the leg, up to the heart, to fix the lower heart valve that is leaking.

6/6 – tbodie Lurker requested prayers for his son, tbodie Jr, who is in his mid-30s and was just diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. Please pray for healing for tbodie Jr and for peace for his family.

6/11 – Legally Sufficient asks the Horde’s prayers for her friend, Bubba, who was in a bad auto wreck on 6/8. Prayers for comfort, healing, and strength are needed for Bubba and his family. He is in ICU and will be there for a couple more weeks. Thank you!
6/18 Update – Legally Sufficient asks for continued prayers for healing, strength, and comfort for Bubba. God is great! Bubba is recovering from pneumonia (on top of the other injuries from his vehicle accident) but he is fully participating in PT, walking 25 steps a day with assistance, his breathing is improving, and he is finally eating solid food! Prayers for Bubba, his wife and family, and Bubba’s many friends are very much appreciated.

6/14 – MkY sent an update on his wife Judy’s battle with kidney cancer. Like Teresa in Ft. Worth, her tumors are shrinking. The shrinkage is so dramatic, they are discussing removing the cancerous kidney. Since that is the original source, that would make it easier to attack and perhaps kill the other tumors. Thank you so much for the prayers.

6/14 – Our Country is Screwed sent prayers of thanksgiving for all the thoughts and prayers as chemo continues. It has really been uplifting. The side effects have been minimal as well, thankfully, and there are 8 weekly treatments to go.

6/14 – Inspector Cussword requested prayers for Brother Tim. He has had a horrible time, living in his car and has just been handed a cancer diagnosis. Please pray for God’s Provision to be clear and comforting to him, and for his healing.
6/28 Update (from Brother Tim himself) - On 6/23, Brother Tim had surgery to remove the cancerous mass and some nearby lymph nodes. He has been in the hospital since then. He has trouble walking already, and is concerned about how much mobility he has lost after all this. He is hopeful that PT will be able to get him properly mobile before he is discharged, or at least that a rehab facility could be arranged. He should know by 7/4 if the cancer has spread. He still has long-term housing and income issues. Prayers are appreciated.

6/14 – Inogame asked for prayers for his wife and family. It’s very early, but they may have baby #5 on the way. They appreciate the support and prayers of the Horde.

6/24 – Fenelon Spoke asked for prayers on behalf of Sock Money and family, at the death of his brother, and for AOP who has PVC and spent hours in the hospital on 6/23. Also, Pawn could use prayers due to work issues; people are being laid off. Please pray for Israel as well as our country, and for Donald Trump, JD Vance, their families, and all of the Trump administration.

6/28 – Dave R requested prayers for healing, strength, recovery, and curing, as he was recently diagnosed with non-Hodgkin Lymphoma. He is 62 and a long-time AoSHQ reader.

6/28 – H asked for prayers for a mom of two elementary aged boys who lost her mother 3 weeks ago, and her husband on 6/28, both to cancer.

6/28 – Ben Had requested prayers for Jay Guevara, as he was seriously ill.
6/30 Update – IrishEi posted that Jay Guevara has passed away, and offered prayers for peaceful repose in God’s hands and for comfort for his loved ones.

7/3 – 469 requested prayers for some medical tests he has coming up.

For submission guidelines and other relevant info, please contact Annie's Stew, who is managing the prayer list. You can contact her at apaslo at-sign hotmail dot com. If you see a prayer request posted in a thread comment, feel free to copy and paste it and e-mail it to Annie's Stew. She tries to keep up with the requests in the threads, but she's not here all of the time, so she may not see it unless you e-mail it to her. Please note: Prayer requests are generally removed after four weeks or so unless we receive an update.

2 Corinthians 4:8-9
We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair, persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian (ONT Cob Emeritus) at 07:04 AM




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1 Frogman coffee.

Posted by: goatexchange at July 05, 2025 07:51 AM (hyS0X)

2 Wow

Posted by: OkJohn at July 05, 2025 07:51 AM (NC/it)

3 Almost made it, skimmed content.
Prayers to follow.

Posted by: OkJohn at July 05, 2025 07:52 AM (NC/it)

4 Well, THAT woke me up!

Prayers to all who need them.

Posted by: Isophorone at July 05, 2025 07:53 AM (IG5iM)

5 Is everyone still asleep?

Posted by: dantesed at July 05, 2025 07:53 AM (Oy/m2)

6 45 minute wait for Pepcid to kick in. Mmmmm, first cup of coffee.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at July 05, 2025 07:56 AM (2NHgQ)

7 Morning peeps.

The smell of gunpowder in the morning....

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 05, 2025 08:00 AM (Q4IgG)

8 “ Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid.”

John 14:27

Posted by: Marcus T at July 05, 2025 08:02 AM (074d0)

9 I asked Annie Stew to include in the prayer list my best friend Mark's mother who is 90 and is not recovering well from a recent surgery on her colon. Mark is devastated as they are very close. I pray she recovers fully. He is the greatest guy in the world and I hate to see him so wrought.

I just wanted to get that out here, but I know Annie will post it for me.

Posted by: Boswell at July 05, 2025 08:05 AM (BGfwC)

10 Prayers up for the Hill Country, where they are living out the Stevie Ray Vaughan in a tragic way https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KC5H9P4F5Uk

Posted by: smitty at July 05, 2025 08:06 AM (2f/lW)

11 Prayers have been said.

At least 25 dead and as many still missing in the flash flood waters of the Guadalupe river around Kerrville, TX. Water level rose ~30 feet in 45 minutes yesterday morning according to reports. Christian girls' camp inundated. Several young girlls killed, severall still missing.

Posted by: muldoon at July 05, 2025 08:06 AM (poXs5)

12 Hot Coffee!!! FIFA Club World Cup winner get's $1B ...
2 BIG matches today !!!

Posted by: qmark at July 05, 2025 08:08 AM (+t9Oi)

13
Called 'em.

*waits for treat*

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 05, 2025 08:09 AM (/HVsR)

14 Good morning boys and girls and everything in between. I certainly hope you have all of your fingers and toes this morning. Too late to pray for you not to blow those digits off.
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heh. Driving home from the store this morning, I smelled the distinct odor of exploded fireworks permeating my neighborhood.

Makes me proud to be an American living in a red town in a red state.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 05, 2025 08:10 AM (IBQGV)

15 Posted by: Boswell at July 05, 2025 08:05 AM (BGfwC

Good to see you, Boswell. Hope things are going well for you and your family . Sorry to hear about your friend Mark's mother . Will pray for both of them.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 05, 2025 08:10 AM (HtNsq)

16 The smell of gunpowder in the morning....
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 05, 2025 08:00 AM


That is the plan for later.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 05, 2025 08:12 AM (Wnv9h)

17 Good morning again dear horde and thank you annie and mh and you morons for praying

Special prayer for ciampino who is back in the hospital Dx dehydration

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2025 08:13 AM (RIvkX)

18 Prayers up for all the Horde's intentions. Those asked and unasked.

Posted by: olddog in mo at July 05, 2025 08:13 AM (VpKXM)

19 Good to see you, Boswell. Hope things are going well for you and your family . Sorry to hear about your friend Mark's mother . Will pray for both of them.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 05, 2025 08:10 AM (HtNsq)

Thank you, Fen! I hope all is well with you and the family as well. I hope Fen son is doing well in his latest job...he's such a nice, responsible young man, a credit to his upbringing.

Posted by: Boswell at July 05, 2025 08:14 AM (BGfwC)

20 Here's another short AI video of one of the Declaration signers- Caesar Rodney of Delaware. Such a contrast to Biden:

https://youtu.be/aOlGQf5gxBQ?si=8916SAUDLC6p7QUj

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 05, 2025 08:15 AM (HtNsq)

21 Good morning. Prayers to the Horde and their loved ones in need

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 05, 2025 08:19 AM (2G3gH)

22 Good morning!

Posted by: gp at July 05, 2025 08:22 AM (eoBq9)

23 Real bad flooding down here in Texas.
Maybe 20 kids missing from camp.
Prayers pls

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 05, 2025 08:25 AM (gbOdA)

24 Nearly 5,000 people from around the world will be staging a massive, "mostly peaceful" gathering in Denver this weekend. singing songs, and carrying signs, but mostly singing songs. Who knew barbershop singing groups were an international phenomenon?

https://is.gd/7LV4qu

Posted by: muldoon at July 05, 2025 08:26 AM (poXs5)

25 Posted by: Boswell at July 05, 2025 08:14 AM (BGfwC

Thanks so much. I appreciate that. I think it's more of. Credit due to the grace of God and Fenson's fine dad than me but we carry on! Son is also exercising and getting fit which he enjoys.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 05, 2025 08:26 AM (HtNsq)

26 Good morning Mis Hum and Horde

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2025 08:27 AM (+qU29)

27 I need coffee badly

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2025 08:28 AM (+qU29)

28 Well I didn’t blow any fingers off because I didn’t mess with fireworks…I fired 13 rounds of 10mm (one for each of the original colonies) off the deck at an empty plastic cat litter bucket across the pond and actually managed to hit it multiple times but I did get stung on the right middle finger by a bee that got tangled in my hair. I think that finger is going to be in permanent “flip the bird” mode for a day or so…lol

Posted by: The Osprey at July 05, 2025 08:29 AM (zghC2)

29 24 dead
over 20 missing

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 05, 2025 08:30 AM (gbOdA)

30 Good Saturday morning, horde.

Terrible news about TX. Lord, have mercy.

Prayers said for those listed, and the rest of you as well.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 05, 2025 08:31 AM (h7ZuX)

31 24 dead
over 20 missing
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 05, 2025 08:30 AM (gbOdA)
~~~~~

Just horrifying. Have been praying that those missing children are found alive. Videos of the rushing flood water are terrifying.

Posted by: IrishEi at July 05, 2025 08:34 AM (3ImbR)

32 Muldoon most of the signs will say
Hurray for our side

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2025 08:35 AM (+qU29)

33 AOP has PVC? Dang it there’s been this nagging voice in my head telling me I should call him but it always occurs when he’s probably not awake yet.
Note to put it on calendar for this am with alarm.

Posted by: The Osprey at July 05, 2025 08:36 AM (zghC2)

34 Horrible tragedy in Texas

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2025 08:37 AM (+qU29)

35 Ugh floods are nasty. Pray they find all those kids alive and well.

Posted by: The Osprey at July 05, 2025 08:38 AM (zghC2)

36
Here's another short AI video of one of the Declaration signers- Caesar Rodney of Delaware.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke


There is a bronze statue of Rodney riding a horse to cast the tie-breaking vote for Delaware to favor independence on July 2, 1776. It is located in Rodney Square, in Wilmington, DE.

A decade or so back, it was removed from its pedestal and hauled off for repair and cleaning. On either the outbound or the return trip, its head was damaged -- some say knocked off -- when its transporting truck passed through or under something having a clearance less than the statue's height as it sat on the truck's trailer. Some additional repair work was needed and performed before the statue was returned to its rightful place in Rodney Square.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 05, 2025 08:42 AM (Tv15w)

37 The girls at the TX camp are so young and absolutely adorable. Please God take care of them and comfort their parents until they are found.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at July 05, 2025 08:42 AM (2NHgQ)

38 I saw Kerrville area got 15" of rain in about six hours early yesterday morning. That's roughly twice as much as we get in the San Luis Valley of CO per year. Incredible.

Posted by: muldoon at July 05, 2025 08:43 AM (poXs5)

39 Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit. As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be, world without end. Amen.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2025 08:44 AM (ZOv7s)

40 Nearly 5,000 people from around the world will be staging a massive, "mostly peaceful" gathering in Denver this weekend. singing songs, and carrying signs, but mostly singing songs. Who knew barbershop singing groups were an international phenomenon?

https://is.gd/7LV4qu
Posted by: muldoon at July 05, 2025 08:26 AM (poXs5)
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Probably not a lot of Sikh representation.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2025 08:46 AM (ZOv7s)

41 Good morning Horde.

Posted by: TRex at July 05, 2025 08:46 AM (IQ6Gq)

42 Hurray for our side
Posted by: Skip

********

Yeah. I gave myself that ear worm when I typed that comment.

Posted by: muldoon at July 05, 2025 08:47 AM (poXs5)

43 I told Rev about the kids in camp who are missing from the flood waters. He is distressed to say the least.

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at July 05, 2025 08:49 AM (SfhV1)

44 Just a reminder that the American Revolution was not only about taxation without representation, but religious freedom as well. Catholics and other 'non-conformists' were barred from voting or holding elective office under British law.

These groups rallied to the Patriot cause once George Washington let it be known that the future government would restore their rights.

This is why the Constitution bars the establishment of a federal state church, which leftists twisted into bans on prayer in schools.

It's interesting to see the Brits have reverted to form, and are now banning silent prayer. Old habits die hard.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2025 08:50 AM (ZOv7s)

45 “Hooray for our side”. - “For What It’s Worth”, contrary to popular lore, has nothing to do with Viet Nam war protest.

It was a tune about a newly enacted teen curfew, a closing of a popular club, and/or bars not allowing minors on Sunset strip. This resulted in a near riot by middle class yutes. Butfalo Springfield had a hit with this. Stephen Stills penned the tune.

For a “counter culture” band, they had plenty of help from The Man. You can see, and hear, them play “Bluebird” on an episode of Mannix, who goes to a Hippie club to ‘vestigate something. I think he gets knocked out in this episode.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 05, 2025 08:51 AM (+DQk7)

46 Probably not a lot of Sikh representation.

**********

I'd like to see the Japanese contingent. I don't believe I have ever seen a Japanese man with a handlebar mustache. Or a Japanese woman, come to think of it.

Posted by: muldoon at July 05, 2025 08:51 AM (poXs5)

47 good morning MisHum, Horde

* eyes narrow in suspicion *

Why isn't that frog drinking coffee?

Posted by: callsign claymore at July 05, 2025 08:52 AM (T+z9y)

48 Good morning to the Horde. Prayers said for those who need them (a few for myself just on general principles), beautiful sunlight, sipping fresh coffee after a breakfast of real kringle made in Wisconsin. Nice way to start a Saturday.

Posted by: JTB at July 05, 2025 08:53 AM (yTvNw)

49 Despite the ups and downs of life, we here are thankful for our blessings and especially thankful to be American.

Best wishes and prayers up to all the horde.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 05, 2025 08:53 AM (TdMTB)

50 For a “counter culture” band, they had plenty of help from The Man. You can see, and hear, them play “Bluebird” on an episode of Mannix, who goes to a Hippie club to ‘vestigate something. I think he gets knocked out in this episode.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 05, 2025 08:51 AM (+DQk7)
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I was a teenager when the Great Sixties Nostalgia Boom happened and it was hilarious to watch these millionaires try to maintain their protest rock cred all while demanding obscene ticket prices for the semi-annual "farewell tour."

A Deadhead sticker on a Cadillac indeed.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2025 08:54 AM (ZOv7s)

51 Why isn't that frog drinking coffee?

He's waiting for the coffee maker to finish. Note the empty cup in its hand.

Posted by: clarence at July 05, 2025 08:55 AM (qwx9o)

52 My former boss at NASA, who is a good friend of mine, turns 84 this month. He has been alive for 1/3 of the History of the United States.

Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at July 05, 2025 08:56 AM (Da7Vv)

53 Love that cartoon at the top of the post. How pleasant. Sort of a variation on "fair winds and following seas" with coffee.

Posted by: JTB at July 05, 2025 08:56 AM (yTvNw)

54 Amidst sorrow, it's important that we also reflect on our blessings. We got a big one this week when I finally convinced my father to get out the house and to the family reunion in Northern Michigan. He's a very reserved man, but everyone could tell he enjoyed himself tremendously.

As we packed up to go home the next day, there was a fresh gleam in his eye and he was in tremendous spirits. He has difficulty expressing feelings, but yesterday told me to expect a case of lemonade on my doorstep.

The best part was that politics was at best a tertiary issue. Everyone was catching up, admiring how fast grandkids were growing up, anticipating graduation and so on.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2025 08:58 AM (ZOv7s)

55 Probably not a lot of Sikh representation.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2025 08:46 AM


We weren't invited.

- Nepal

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 05, 2025 09:02 AM (Wnv9h)

56 I finally convinced my father to get out the house and to the family reunion in Northern Michigan.


Upper Peninsula or Lesser Peninsula?

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at July 05, 2025 09:02 AM (SfhV1)

57 Meanwhile, the USCCB is still getting its talking points from the DNC:

"The final version of the bill includes unconscionable cuts to healthcare and food assistance, tax cuts that increase inequality, immigration provisions that harm families and children, and cuts to programs that protect God’s creation.

"The bill, as passed, will cause the greatest harm to those who are especially vulnerable in our society. As its provisions go into effect, people will lose access to healthcare and struggle to buy groceries, family members will be separated, and vulnerable communities will be less prepared to cope with environmental impacts of pollution and extreme weather. More must be done to prevent these devastating effects.
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I'd love to ask the good archbishop how much abortion he's willing to fund in exchange for less income equality?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2025 09:04 AM (ZOv7s)

58 income INequality.

Same for health care. "Sure, 20,000 infants will be slaughtered next year, but that extra medicare spending was worth it!"

Subsidiarity - how does it work?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2025 09:05 AM (ZOv7s)

59 Good morning, everyone!

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 05, 2025 09:05 AM (wVcYX)

60 Upper Peninsula or Lesser Peninsula?
Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at July 05, 2025 09:02 AM (SfhV1)
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"Northern Michigan" is the upper half of the Mitten. The UP stands on its own.

Their place is on a lake near Ludington.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2025 09:06 AM (ZOv7s)

61 I'd love to ask the good archbishop how much abortion he's willing to fund in exchange for less income equality?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2025 09:04 AM


It's almost like they have no idea what they're talking about. Almost...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 05, 2025 09:06 AM (Wnv9h)

62 Real or genuine hippies were OK. It was the middle class “disaffected” that were just cosplaying. Trustafarians and idealistic youth. Lemmings following the Time-Life script, and CIA cutouts admonishing them to reject their culture.

Even the hippies hated them. “Where did all these people come from” went the refrain. They didn’t care about revolution. Runaways, drugs. It got so bad tour bus expeditions would venture to the Haight Ashbury section of St. Francisco to observe the freaks in their natural habitat. Air heads from around the country were easy prey for guys like Charlie Manson.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 05, 2025 09:07 AM (0gZLS)

63 Their excellencies are actually using the "people will die" b.s.

Yeah, so much for the Diocesan donation this year.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2025 09:07 AM (ZOv7s)

64 Prayers to those in Kerr County. If you want to help call the aid organizations who are assisting. This is one church coordinating aid;

>>Cross Kingdom, 3044 Junction Highway, in Kerrville. Or 830-367-3480.

The Guadalupe River is notorious for flooding. But this one was historic.

All the state resources are on site and right now there is plenty of SAR assets. I wouldn’t try to drive in and there’s only one close airport in Kerrville that’s being used for staging.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 05, 2025 09:07 AM (TejRp)

65 Their place is on a lake near Ludington.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2025 09:06 AM (ZOv7s)


Doesn't the ferry go out of Ludington?

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at July 05, 2025 09:08 AM (SfhV1)

66 Doesn't the ferry go out of Ludington?
Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at July 05, 2025 09:08 AM (SfhV1)
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Yeah, one does. I keep meaning to take a ferry, but haven't gotten around to it yet.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2025 09:10 AM (ZOv7s)

67 51 Looks more like a flower pot. We shall see

Posted by: callsign claymore at July 05, 2025 09:12 AM (T+z9y)

68 Ace-Endorsed. The ferry is great, not cheap if you're also ferrying your vehicle. There are days I miss northern MI, we had a place between Grand Rapids and Cadillac, small lake with great neighbors. Yes, the UP is fabulous.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at July 05, 2025 09:13 AM (2NHgQ)

69 It's interesting to see the Brits have reverted to form, and are now banning silent prayer. Old habits die hard.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2025 08:50 AM (ZOv7s)

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 05, 2025 09:14 AM (gbOdA)

70 I'd love to ask the good archbishop how much abortion he's willing to fund in exchange for less income equality?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2025 09:04 AM (ZOv7s)“

I’m always pissed off at any church figure (any denomination) who presumes to use his supposed authority to tell government what to do. Not your place, not in this country. You do your job and let everybody else do theirs.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2025 09:14 AM (Lhvai)

71 Their place is on a lake near Ludington.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2025 09:06 AM (ZOv7s)

Can you point to it on this mitten?

Prayers for those asking and for those needing and especially for those girls in Texas. How horrible.

Posted by: Reforger at July 05, 2025 09:15 AM (SJnNf)

72 Prayers up for all, especially those missing girls in TX. Wishing you all a blessed weekend.

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at July 05, 2025 09:15 AM (wh4rG)

73 Flooding is no joke. We were inundated with over a foot of rain back in February and again in April. The April flooding was bad. The winter floods froze.

We were cut off, unable to leave our house because the road was covered in water... several feet of it.

Early in the April flood we went down to the road as it was being covered in water. In less than 15 minutes it was impassable.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 05, 2025 09:16 AM (Q4IgG)

74 Our Revolution was not about installing a new Supreme but about restoring the original Freedoms of the New World.
Americans were into there 3rd generation of Freedom that was antagonistic to Old World ideas.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 05, 2025 09:17 AM (gbOdA)

75
The ferry, S.S. Badger, connects Manitowoc, WI with Ludington, MI.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 05, 2025 09:17 AM (Tv15w)

76 Ace-Endorsed. The ferry is great, not cheap if you're also ferrying your vehicle. There are days I miss northern MI, we had a place between Grand Rapids and Cadillac, small lake with great neighbors. Yes, the UP is fabulous.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at July 05, 2025 09:13 AM (2NHgQ)
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Northern Michigan is where I recharge my batteries. Just such a sense of peace and renewal.

I'm a member of the Mackinac Associates, so get free admission to the parks. In October they do a Fort Fright at Michilimackinac that is first rate. A giant haunted house with loup garou and such, a lady in white walking the walks.

Catnip to Eris, methinks.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2025 09:18 AM (ZOv7s)

77 Heavenly Father, hear the prayers of those listed here, and those held in our hearts. In all things we give You thanks and praise. Amen.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 05, 2025 09:18 AM (7v6oI)

78 I was a bit disappointed there was no fly over during the bill signing.
But, I can get over it with all the winning.

Also, you know why Obama crawled out from under his rock?
I'm betting he's hearing the rumors that repeal and replace of Obamacare is the next big beautiful bill.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 05, 2025 09:19 AM (cVvMz)

79
Ludington is halfway up the little finger side of the "mitten".

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 05, 2025 09:19 AM (Tv15w)

80 Video of the flooding in Kerrville is horrific. Like a long, wet tornado.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2025 09:19 AM (RIvkX)

81 I'd like to see the Japanese contingent. I don't believe I have ever seen a Japanese man with a handlebar mustache. Or a Japanese woman, come to think of it.
Posted by: muldoon

The Japanese Admiral responsible for the annihilation of the Japanese air force at the Battle of the Philippine Sea was an unusual guy. He was 6'7" tall. His men called him The Gargoyle. It seems like I saw a photo of him when he was younger sporting a handlebar mustache.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at July 05, 2025 09:19 AM (Qcyqf)

82 Texas Ferrys are part of TxDOT.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 05, 2025 09:20 AM (gbOdA)

83 79
Ludington is halfway up the little finger side of the "mitten".
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 05, 2025 09:19 AM (Tv15w)

Are people there called Luddites?

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 05, 2025 09:20 AM (gbOdA)

84 Heh, "Don't worry, it's only fireworks, I hope," says Trump at the rally.

Posted by: davidt at July 05, 2025 09:21 AM (i0F8b)

85 There were actually 14 colonies. New Brunswick stayed loyalist. Or so I was told by a Canadian friend.

I'd bet they'd like a do-over.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at July 05, 2025 09:22 AM (Qcyqf)

86 Good morning, miscreants! I had a memory this morning of being a little kid and my dad had some trinket with the word "bicentennial" on it. He explained to me that our country was celebrating its 200th anniversary that year. Now we're at 250, which means I've been alive for a not-inconsiderable percentage of its existence. We're a young nation, and I'm rapidly becoming an old man :-)

Posted by: PabloD at July 05, 2025 09:22 AM (TgNVd)

87 I’m always pissed off at any church figure (any denomination) who presumes to use his supposed authority to tell government what to do. Not your place, not in this country. You do your job and let everybody else do theirs.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2025 09:14 AM (Lhvai)
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I mean, their vocation is the salvation of souls, not providing health care benefits or fixing 'income inequality.'

Has the Welfare State helped or harmed faith?

Especially given how Biden actively attacked the Church and pushed abortion, the way these people stew over high finance and then downplay federal dollars being stopped for Planned Parenthood is disgusting. oh, it's only a year? Wow, and what was it for the last 20? Or 30?

But yeah, less dead kids is not as important as keeping the Migrant Services fully funded. I get it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2025 09:23 AM (ZOv7s)

88
Are people there called Luddites?
Posted by: rhennigantx


As a Yooper during my youth, anyone living below / beneath the Mackinac Bridge were referred to as "trolls". What they term themselves was of scant interest to us.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 05, 2025 09:23 AM (Tv15w)

89 I was a bit disappointed there was no fly over during the bill signing.
But, I can get over it with all the winning.
====

There was a flyover of four B-2s later

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2025 09:24 AM (RIvkX)

90 Yay I'm still alive, I guess. Either God keeps trying to kill me and is failing because I have plot armor (unlikely) or He is just having some fun. He certainly likes his "funny" jokes.

Last night's act was the 3 or 4 men left in America who somehow missed the multiple memos about firing into the air. I know, its improbable, unless God is still angry with you (as He is with me) for gaming the system, thinking I can indulge in sinful ways and at last moment yell "not it!". Yes, that's not the way it's meant to work, I already know that, that's the problem. I would be angry too. Anyways, try as they might the 3 amigos missed me. Yay. Cmon on now, at least look happy?

Posted by: Fenrisulven at July 05, 2025 09:25 AM (SZGk4)

91
There were actually 14 colonies. New Brunswick stayed loyalist


A fact they no doubt stew over.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 05, 2025 09:25 AM (Tv15w)

92 Of all the things I have been told that I didn't need nor want to know.
"You were conceived on Mackinac Island" is right up there.

"I didn't need to know that mom."
"I thought you should"
"Why?"
"Because you should."
"Whatever."

Posted by: Reforger at July 05, 2025 09:25 AM (SJnNf)

93 The Japanese Admiral responsible for the annihilation of the Japanese air force at the Battle of the Philippine Sea was an unusual guy. He was 6'7" tall. His men called him The Gargoyle. It seems like I saw a photo of him when he was younger sporting a handlebar mustache.
Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at July 05, 2025 09:19 AM (Qcyqf)
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The Meiji-era Japanese military went full-on in imitating European facial hair, so mutton chops, bushy mustaches all over the place. The also rejected Japanese sword patterns for the European.

All that changed in the 1920s, along with observing various treaties about treatment of prisoners.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2025 09:25 AM (ZOv7s)

94 "The final version of the bill includes unconscionable cuts to healthcare and food assistance, tax cuts that increase inequality, immigration provisions that harm families and children, and cuts to programs that protect God’s creation.

********

The Politics of Guilt and Pity

Posted by: muldoon at July 05, 2025 09:26 AM (poXs5)

95 flyover was before the signing, B2 and 2 other planes

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at July 05, 2025 09:26 AM (2NHgQ)

96 A Deadhead sticker on a Cadillac indeed.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2025 08:54 AM (ZOv7s)
~~~~~

So you've met JackStraw.

Posted by: IrishEi at July 05, 2025 09:28 AM (3ImbR)

97 There were actually 14 colonies. New Brunswick stayed loyalist. Or so I was told by a Canadian friend.

I'd bet they'd like a do-over.
Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at July 05, 2025 09:22 AM (Qcyqf)
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The Maritimes are basically welfare cases, governments living on charity provided by the western provinces.

This is why Alberta wants to leave. They are the donor whose money pays everyone else, and the Liberals intend to turn the screws even tighter.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2025 09:28 AM (ZOv7s)

98
I mean, their vocation is the salvation of souls, not providing health care benefits or fixing 'income inequality.'


What about coaching would be illegal aliens in the answers to questions and steps they can take to land squarely in the "seeking sanctuary from persecution back home" free space once they violate our borders?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 05, 2025 09:28 AM (Tv15w)

99 Im sorry I didn't realize was a prayer like thread. I was trying to flippant about God. I apologize for my lack of awareness.

Posted by: Fenrisulven at July 05, 2025 09:28 AM (SZGk4)

100 95 flyover was before the signing, B2 and 2 other planes
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at July 05, 2025 09:26 AM

Yep. Saw it right there on the YouToobz.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 05, 2025 09:29 AM (XQo4F)

101 flyover was before the signing, B2 and 2 other planes
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at July 05, 2025 09:26 AM (2NHgQ)
~~~~~

The F-35s/F22s looked like mosquitos next to the B2.

Posted by: IrishEi at July 05, 2025 09:30 AM (3ImbR)

102 >>>The ferry, S.S. Badger, connects Manitowoc, WI with Ludington, MI.

Rode it back in the early 2000s with my then-12 year old daughter. We'd driven from our home near Grand Rapids to Chicago and did a bunch of tourist stuff there, went to Six Flags the next day, then drove up to Manitowoc in the morning to catch the ferry to Ludington before driving home.

The SS Badger is coal-fired. After leaving port, I stood out on the stern for awhile before noticing the oily film on my skin and the gritty taste of coal-ash in my mouth. So, I went back inside for the remainder of the trip.

Posted by: one hour sober at July 05, 2025 09:30 AM (Y1sOo)

103 Just had my first sip of coffee, so, not quite all here yet.

When I'm more awake, I'll be praying for the families of those in the Texas flooding. How horrible.

Posted by: mindful webworker - two sips... at July 05, 2025 09:30 AM (OZEHh)

104
unconscionable


Oh, I am quite conscious of the purported "ghastly" acts.

Those terms are acceptable to me.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 05, 2025 09:31 AM (Tv15w)

105 Of all the things I have been told that I didn't need nor want to know.
"You were conceived on Mackinac Island" is right up there.

Posted by: Reforger at July 05, 2025 09:25 AM (SJnNf)
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Bah, I think it's a good thing to link sex to having kids. Knowing that you were created because your parents had a date night and got a bit tipsy is a reminder to think about one's actions.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2025 09:31 AM (ZOv7s)

106 LOL I WASN’T trying to be flippant. You know what I should clean up that mess around back. Hope you all have a lovely morning

Posted by: Fenrisulven at July 05, 2025 09:31 AM (SZGk4)

107 Im sorry I didn't realize was a prayer like thread. I was trying to flippant about God. I apologize for my lack of awareness.
Posted by: Fenrisulven at July 05, 2025 09:28 AM (SZGk4)
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God actually invented humor. Lots of it in scripture.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2025 09:32 AM (ZOv7s)

108 So you've met JackStraw.
Posted by: IrishEi at July 05, 2025 09:28 AM (3ImbR)
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No, just stood downwind of him. Whew! Talk about chronic.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2025 09:33 AM (ZOv7s)

109 "Their excellencies are actually using the "people will die" b.s.

Yeah, so much for the Diocesan donation this year."

Yeah. I stiffed 'em on the Bishop's Annual Appeal. I have found other charities.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 05, 2025 09:33 AM (JVCkA)

110 Nearly 5,000 people from around the world will be staging a massive, "mostly peaceful" gathering in Denver this weekend. singing songs, and carrying signs, but mostly singing songs. Who knew barbershop singing groups were an international phenomenon?

https://is.gd/7LV4qu
Posted by: muldoon at July 05, 2025 08:26 AM (poXs5)

Well, it *is* Denver. So I'm sure there will be at least twelve different a capella renditions of the "F*** Donald Trump" song, several Palestinian barbershop acts, and a severe monkeypox outbreak.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 05, 2025 09:33 AM (BI5O2)

111 If you're parents didn't get frisky you wouldn't be here.

Posted by: Think about that at July 05, 2025 09:35 AM (XQo4F)

112 >>Im sorry I didn't realize was a prayer like thread.

It's an open thread. It says so right at the top.

Posted by: one hour sober at July 05, 2025 09:35 AM (Y1sOo)

113 The Politics of Guilt and Pity
Posted by: muldoon at July 05, 2025 09:26 AM (poXs5)
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Selective guilt and selective pity.

The good news is that liberal Catholics are on the way out. the seminaries are full of orthodox young men, and the trend has been going on for a while. I think that's why the senior leadership is so petulant.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2025 09:35 AM (ZOv7s)

114 *waits for treat*

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 05, 2025 08:09 AM


* gladly tosses large piece of freeze-dried liver *

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 05, 2025 09:36 AM (0sNs1)

115 Yeah, dozens of missing young girls at a flooded Christian retreat is some grim news. Praying for a miracle, and they are found alive.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 05, 2025 09:36 AM (BI5O2)

116 Well, it *is* Denver. So I'm sure there will be at least twelve different a capella renditions of the "F*** Donald Trump" song, several Palestinian barbershop acts, and a severe monkeypox outbreak.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 05, 2025 09:33 AM (BI5O2)
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Will it spread to local wildlife or farm animals though?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2025 09:37 AM (ZOv7s)

117
Democrats tried to sink the Badger because of the (shudder) coal power.

There's a high speed boat from muskegon to Milwaulkee now.

Going to Port Sheldon today, Lake Michigan might be up past 65 degrees for swimming.

Posted by: Auspex at July 05, 2025 09:38 AM (j4U/Z)

118 >> I hope you feel pretty, your coffee tastes good, and something good happens to you today

You, too!

Posted by: m at July 05, 2025 09:38 AM (aURVT)

119 They are the donor whose money pays everyone else, and the Liberals intend to turn the screws even tighter.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2025 09:28 AM


To quote one of your American bank robbers, "That's where the money is."

Posted by: Canadian Liberals at July 05, 2025 09:39 AM (0sNs1)

120 99 Im sorry I didn't realize was a prayer like thread. I was trying to flippant about God. I apologize for my lack of awareness.
Posted by: Fenrisulven at July 05, 2025 09:28 AM (SZGk4)

And yet, it was appropriate for the thread. I detected some back-handed gratitude in there.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 05, 2025 09:39 AM (h7ZuX)

121
Have we any word on whether Slow Joe has decided to accept Konrad Adenauer's request that he become President of NATO yet?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 05, 2025 09:40 AM (Tv15w)

122 One thing I am absolutely positive about is Leftists really do not care how many die

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2025 09:40 AM (+qU29)

123 Will it spread to local wildlife or farm animals though?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2025 09:37 AM (ZOv7s

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The upshot is that Denver's teeming throng of twisted perverts now have to compete with government-protected wolves when they want to violate barnyard animals.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 05, 2025 09:40 AM (BI5O2)

124 William Tell Overture: Funny how, I'm anticipating the Lone Ranger theme, but first there's those peaceful parts that go with so many cartoons.

Hi yo Bugs Bunny.

Prayer list perused. I need to pray a little louder, I think.

Posted by: mindful webworker - whattaya mean 'we' kimo sabe at July 05, 2025 09:41 AM (OZEHh)

125 And yet, it was appropriate for the thread. I detected some back-handed gratitude in there.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 05, 2025 09:39 AM (h7ZuX)
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I agree. Indeed, I'll go further and say it was no accident, but actually what God intended to happen.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2025 09:41 AM (ZOv7s)

126 Nice big excessively loud fiery but mostly peaceful conflagration in the cul de sac last night accompanied by songs like Living In The USA by the lovely mzz Rondstat.

Hooch, minors and gunpowder.

'murrica.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 05, 2025 09:41 AM (XQo4F)

127 Post 36- I late thanks to Krebs who has gone off to. Be a cycling star . I am glad the statue was replaced .

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 05, 2025 09:43 AM (5G8qI)

128 Bah, I think it's a good thing to link sex to having kids. Knowing that you were created because your parents had a date night and got a bit tipsy is a reminder to think about one's actions.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2025 09:31 AM (ZOv7s)
=====

Anyone who cared in my extended family knew the exact place and time I was conceived. They took me there when I was 15 and then pointed and laughed at my embarassment.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2025 09:43 AM (RIvkX)

129 We're a young nation, and I'm rapidly becoming an old man :-)
Posted by: PabloD at July 05, 2025 09:22 AM (TgNVd)

You “vaguely remember” the bicentennial? Get off my lawn you kid!

Ok I was in high school - that was a great summer. Even though people think of the 70’s as full of malaise, the entire country got together that year and threw a huge party, parades, concerts and bicentennial festivals in almost every city. People wore red, white and blue all summer long.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2025 09:43 AM (Lhvai)

Posted by: Don Black at July 05, 2025 09:45 AM (AOsQT)

131 I'm sure there will be at least twelve different a capella renditions of the "F*** Donald Trump" song, several Palestinian barbershop acts, and a severe monkeypox outbreak.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

*snort


122 One thing I am absolutely positive about is Leftists really do not care how many die
Posted by: Skip

I'm pretty sure they depend on people dying, or the eternal threat thereof, for political success.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 05, 2025 09:45 AM (h7ZuX)

132 One thing I am absolutely positive about is Leftists really do not care how many die
Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2025 09:40 AM (+qU29)
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Yes, and that's why I've been trying to think of a frame that works to describes their total disinterest in the results of their purportedly moral policies. "Cultural Marxism" doesn't work, because Marx was anti-culture. You cannot in any way compare actual Marxism with the Wokes - actual Marxists would have had those degenerates in ditches. Communist China has no Pride Month.

That's why I think the thread comes from within American culture, specifically a weird secular (or pagan?) take on the Puritans. The idea of an Elect or Anointed fits with this. One might say Brahmins are similar, but the word Brahmin carries with it a level of dignity that these people wholly lack.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2025 09:46 AM (ZOv7s)

133 9 I asked Annie Stew to include in the prayer list my best friend Mark's mother who is 90 and is not recovering well from a recent surgery on her colon. Mark is devastated as they are very close. I pray she recovers fully. He is the greatest guy in the world and I hate to see him so wrought.
Posted by: Boswell at July 05, 2025 08:05 AM (BGfwC)

What a wonderful friendship!

Posted by: m at July 05, 2025 09:46 AM (aURVT)

134
The style book's recommended response to leftists bewailing loss of gubmint funding and services is, "Fear not, I'm sure that insurance will cover it."

Return their own volleys, good and hard.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 05, 2025 09:46 AM (Tv15w)

135 Anyone who cared in my extended family knew the exact place and time I was conceived. They took me there when I was 15 and then pointed and laughed at my embarassment.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2025 09:43 AM (RIvkX)

I just hope it wasn’t the Altamont Speedway, during a certain concert.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2025 09:46 AM (Lhvai)

136 As of July 2nd, we are closer to 2050 than 2000.

Tempus fugit.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 05, 2025 09:46 AM (0sNs1)

137 "You were conceived on Mackinac Island"

***********

And I was born in the backseat of a Greyhound bus
Rollin' down Highway 41

Posted by: muldoon at July 05, 2025 09:47 AM (poXs5)

138 Know who else depended on people dying, or the eternal threat thereof, for political success?

Posted by: Low hanging curve at July 05, 2025 09:47 AM (XQo4F)

139 Ok I was in high school - that was a great summer. Even though people think of the 70’s as full of malaise, the entire country got together that year and threw a huge party, parades, concerts and bicentennial festivals in almost every city. People wore red, white and blue all summer long.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2025 09:43 AM (Lhvai)
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I was much younger, but clearly recall the entire red, white and blue look, and the music and all. Vietnam was done, Watergate was done, let's have a party!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2025 09:48 AM (ZOv7s)

140 Prayers for all on the list.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 05, 2025 09:48 AM (bss/y)

141 God actually invented humor. Lots of it in scripture.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2025 09:32 AM (ZOv7s)
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9 put of 10 times Mrs. F. relates the weekly Torah portion to what is happening on The Bold and The Beautiful

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2025 09:49 AM (RIvkX)

142 134
The style book's recommended response to leftists bewailing loss of gubmint funding and services is, "Fear not, I'm sure that insurance will cover it."

+++
It's a write off, Jerry.
They just write it off.

Posted by: Kramer at July 05, 2025 09:50 AM (XQo4F)

143 >God actually invented humor. Lots of it in scripture.
---

Knock knock
who's there
Jesus
Jesus who?
Thomas, give it a rest already.

Posted by: Don Black at July 05, 2025 09:53 AM (AOsQT)

144 Tom Servo, by the time the Bicentennial happened everyone was glad it was finally over.

It went on for years.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2025 09:53 AM (RIvkX)

145 And I was born in the backseat of a Greyhound bus
Rollin' down Highway 41
Posted by: muldoon at July 05, 2025 09:47 AM


Lord, I was born a ramblin' pediatric cardiologist
Trying to make a diagnosis,
and hopin' it's not a blood cyst
And when it's time for leavin'
I hope you'll understand
That I was born a ramblin' pediatric cardiologist

THE Bruce Dickinson will likely say the chorus needs some work.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 05, 2025 09:55 AM (0sNs1)

146 122 One thing I am absolutely positive about is Leftists really do not care how many die
Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2025 09:40 AM (+qU29)


A piece of evidence is that they claim their opponents do not care how many die, and leftists ALWAYS project their own pathologies on others.

Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at July 05, 2025 09:55 AM (rF2iL)

147 Knock knock
who's there
Jesus
Jesus who?
Thomas, give it a rest already.
Posted by: Don Black at July 05, 2025 09:53 AM (AOsQT)

Nice.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 05, 2025 09:56 AM (bss/y)

148 Maybe just a personal perception, think this year's 4th was a bit bigger than last few. Hopefully next will be even bigger

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2025 09:56 AM (+qU29)

149 "You were conceived on Mackinac Island" - a limerick

It's daunting to consider our inception
So we practice a fair bit of self deception
When it comes right down to it
We know our parents didn't "do it"
We can't conceive of our moment of conception

Posted by: muldoon at July 05, 2025 09:56 AM (poXs5)

150 >> I hope you feel pretty, your coffee tastes good, and something good happens to you today

You, too!


Eh. One outta three ain't bad.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 05, 2025 09:56 AM (/y8xj)

151 "...everyone was glad it was finally over.

It went on for years."


This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: The Y2K problem at July 05, 2025 09:56 AM (XQo4F)

152 And on that note I'm done.

Posted by: muldoon at July 05, 2025 09:56 AM (poXs5)

153 Although there have always been evil rulers who did not care about how many of their subjects died, I think the open indifference to Death in western culture first came to the surface with Robespierre and the radical left in France. They openly strove to kill everyone who didn’t agree with them completely. (Re: the Vendee). Then the Russian revolution followed the same path. (Holodomor). They have made a virtue out of murder, and that’s about as satanic as a movement can get.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2025 09:57 AM (Lhvai)

154 I just hope it wasn’t the Altamont Speedway, during a certain concert.
=====
Way before that!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2025 09:57 AM (RIvkX)

155 And on that note I'm done.
Posted by: muldoon at July 05, 2025 09:56 AM (poXs5)
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So was Dad.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2025 09:58 AM (ZOv7s)

156 People wore red, white and blue all summer long.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2025 09:43 AM (Lhvai)

I really hated those shorts. They weren't cut right and made my shadow look like I had a dress on. I have PTSD from those shorts.

If you look there are parades and such shot on old 8mm film of some Bicentenials on youboob. I was at the one in Brooklyn, Michigan as a 6 year old. I remember it well. My grandfather and his Legion buddies did the fireworks. I blew up so much shit that summer. Piles of burning leaves with no worry of anything lighting up. M80's and the good stuff. Chasing my brother with red hot burning magnesium on a wire...
That summer we moved to Nevada, with fireworks being mostly illegal and I never saw a real M80 again.

Posted by: Reforger at July 05, 2025 10:00 AM (SJnNf)

157
Tom Servo, by the time the Bicentennial happened everyone was glad it was finally over.

It went on for years.
Posted by: San Franpsycho


The citizen repainted fire hydrants executed in tune with the Bicentennial theme(s) lasted for decades in some cases.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 05, 2025 10:00 AM (Tv15w)

158 BREAKING: Young girl found alive 12 miles downstream after devastating Texas Hill Country flood.

Rescue teams continue search efforts and more rain is expected.

https://tinyurl.com/2j9br69v


that is a person, up in a tree

Posted by: Don Black at July 05, 2025 10:02 AM (AOsQT)

159 122. Our demise is the point of their open borders policy. It's the road to global communism and they understand that all the criminals coming in will gladly kill and expropriate us, rape our children and celebrate their victory. It's not for nothing that Clinton called us a basket of deplorable or that WEF's Schwab says we will own nothing. And don't anyone say he's not a Marxist. The bust of Lenin on his bookcase says otherwise.

Posted by: night lifted at July 05, 2025 10:03 AM (FZn/N)

160 God actually invented humor. Lots of it in scripture.

************

Samson capturing 300 foxes, tying their tails together in pairs, with a firebrand (torch) and turning them loose in the Philistines wheat fields was a one of the first recorded practical jokes...

Posted by: muldoon at July 05, 2025 10:03 AM (poXs5)

161
I was hiking the Appalachian Trail with a friend from high school and on Independence Day 1976 we were hiking in New Hampshire's Presidential Range and crossed over Mt. Washington.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 05, 2025 10:03 AM (Tv15w)

162 The citizen repainted fire hydrants executed in tune with the Bicentennial theme(s) lasted for decades in some cases.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 05, 2025 10:00 AM (Tv15w)
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One of the things I had in mind! I was a kid but I thought it was overkill, especially in the Boy Scouts.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2025 10:04 AM (RIvkX)

163 BREAKING: Young girl found alive 12 miles downstream after devastating Texas Hill Country flood.

Rescue teams continue search efforts and more rain is expected.

https://tinyurl.com/2j9br69v


that is a person, up in a tree
Posted by: Don Black at July 05, 2025 10:02 AM (AOsQT)

Praise God!

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 05, 2025 10:04 AM (wVcYX)

164 My big red Snap-on tool chest is the Bicentennial model, with special graphics. It was a very good year!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 05, 2025 10:05 AM (Z5NUn)

165 153 Holomodor, run by Kaganovich, was to steal the means of production, farms. While the countryside starved, the cities ( think NYC, Chicago and LA) were fat and sassy on their production. The NyC commie needs to go, as do it's vile universities.

Posted by: night lifted at July 05, 2025 10:07 AM (FZn/N)

166 Samson capturing 300 foxes, tying their tails together in pairs, with a firebrand (torch) and turning them loose in the Philistines wheat fields was a one of the first recorded practical jokes...
Posted by: muldoon at July 05, 2025 10:03 AM (poXs5)

I’ve always thought this proverb (Proverbs 23:13) was pretty good dry humor… (you’re not gonna kill the kid with a spanking)

Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 05, 2025 10:08 AM (nrfI8)

167 164. It was indeed.

Posted by: night lifted at July 05, 2025 10:08 AM (FZn/N)

168 152 And on that note I'm done.
Posted by: muldoon at July 05, 2025 09:56 AM (poXs5)

And Thank You. I'm still giggling.
That was awesome.

Posted by: Reforger at July 05, 2025 10:08 AM (SJnNf)

169 I survivor can mean others are possible

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2025 10:08 AM (+qU29)

170 Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 05, 2025 10:03 AM (Tv15w

Neat!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 05, 2025 10:08 AM (8ssI3)

171 So I saw LA cancelled their 4th of July events yesterday and instead replaced them with anti-ICE parades.

We need a divorce. Like ASAP.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 05, 2025 10:11 AM (KrOdt)

172 "It is better to live in a corner of a roof, Than in a house shared with a contentious woman."

Posted by: Also Proverbs. Three times. at July 05, 2025 10:11 AM (XQo4F)

173 good morning peeps!!!

wow! had the best best best time in Lititz PA last night!

beautiful weather, beautiful happy people, fantastic dinner in town, great visits with local friends, and the fireworks wee AMAZING (as usual)

Posted by: BlackOrchid nee Powell at July 05, 2025 10:11 AM (Pv3Rg)

174 IAEA - International Atomic Energy Agency ⚛️
@iaeaorg
An IAEA team of inspectors today safely departed from Iran to return to the Agency headquarters in Vienna, after staying in Tehran throughout the recent military conflict.
5:05 AM · Jul 4, 2025
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Mmkay.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2025 10:12 AM (RIvkX)

175 After uefa, iaea has to be the most corrupt organization in Europe.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 05, 2025 10:13 AM (KrOdt)

176 Not enough coffee.

FIFA not uefa.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 05, 2025 10:14 AM (KrOdt)

177 So I saw LA cancelled their 4th of July events yesterday and instead replaced them with anti-ICE parades.
We need a divorce. Like ASAP.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 05, 2025 10:11 AM (KrOdt)

Hey Hey! Ho Ho! ICE has got to go! Hey Hey! Ho Ho! No more deportos! Hey Hey! Ho Ho!

Posted by: Dirty Old Hippie Boomer Who Loves A Good Chant at July 05, 2025 10:14 AM (R/m4+)

178 Enclaves of Marxists around, a national divorce is coming, or civil war

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2025 10:14 AM (+qU29)

179 Bootleg fireworks report: it was fuggin Gaza here last night.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 05, 2025 10:15 AM (eB5+R)

180 "Lititz, Pennsylvania? Ah, yes. I spent a week there one day."

Posted by: W. C. Fields at July 05, 2025 10:15 AM (XQo4F)

181 Guys I can't say enough about Lititz tho. Cutest town ever! They have an all-day event in the Springs Park - which just sadly got really hit by flooding but everyone pitched in to clean up for yesterday - with live music and the candle thing and parades and great food stands and historic reenactments and all kinds of stuff all day. then the Queen of Candles (like a beauty pageant for local high school senior girls) followed by the fireworks. Just looking around and everyone was healthy and happy and patriotic this year. it was better than it's been in AGES and that's WITH the stupid flooding! plus some tool tried to steal the stuff for the candle thing, but local businesses replaced it toot sweet so the canal was full of lit candles as usual, and the purposely broken Moravian star lights were all replaced. interestingly no word on who did THAT nasty bit of business, but I can guess.

Posted by: BlackOrchid nee Powell at July 05, 2025 10:16 AM (Pv3Rg)

182 A divorce would be much better, cost fewer lives.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 05, 2025 10:16 AM (KrOdt)

183 178 Enclaves of Marxists around, a national divorce is coming, or civil war

you might be right but I'm feeling a whole lot better about Lancaster County as of today

Posted by: BlackOrchid nee Powell at July 05, 2025 10:16 AM (Pv3Rg)

184 179 Bootleg fireworks report: it was fuggin Gaza here last night.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 05, 2025 10:15 AM (eB5+R)

So 1.7 billion children died?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 05, 2025 10:17 AM (KrOdt)

185 First detainees have arrived at Alligator Alcatraz.

Seen on X: "Next up--Grizzly Gitmo in Alaska."

Posted by: IrishEi at July 05, 2025 10:20 AM (3ImbR)

186 Speaking of Gaza saw a cnn story about Dem attitudes towards Israel.

Dems were asked who do you side with Palestinians or Israel ? It was Palestinians by 57%. I don’t means it was 57-43. I mean the spread was 57%.

Same question in 2017 was Israel +14%.



Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 05, 2025 10:20 AM (KrOdt)

187 Lititz…. Map says it’s about 70 miles from Gettysburg. I’ve been to Gettysburg twice and love the place; it’s like sacred ground. Always thought it was more than coincidence that July 4 was the day after that amazing battle ended

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 05, 2025 10:20 AM (WdMlw)

188 That's why I think the thread comes from within American culture, specifically a weird secular (or pagan?) take on the Puritans. The idea of an Elect or Anointed fits with this. One might say Brahmins are similar, but the word Brahmin carries with it a level of dignity that these people wholly lack.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2025 09:46 AM (ZOv7s)

Marxism is about destruction. It's why it's so compatible with islam. Death and destruction for everyone to give absolute power to a few of the "chosen".

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 05, 2025 10:23 AM (g8Ew8)

189 187 Lititz…. Map says it’s about 70 miles from Gettysburg. I’ve been to Gettysburg twice and love the place; it’s like sacred ground. Always thought it was more than coincidence that July 4 was the day after that amazing battle ended


Gettysburg is a great town too! Both have wonderful downtowns with great restaurants and shopping. Tons of (Moravian) history in Lititz as well. I can't post photos here but I took some of the Moravian Churchyard - General Sutter is buried there.

the neatest thing is the area for the unknown soldiers there ... plus the flat, unadorned Moravian graves ... I always like to check out historical cemeteries for some reason

Posted by: BlackOrchid nee Powell at July 05, 2025 10:23 AM (Pv3Rg)

190 179 Bootleg fireworks report: it was fuggin Gaza here last night.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 05, 2025 10:15 AM (eB5+R)

They went pretty hard here as well. For about 2 hours.

Plus side: Reef did not seem afraid. He almost looked more annoyed.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 05, 2025 10:24 AM (bss/y)

191 lol no more Jerome Powell nonsense sorry

he'll be fired/leaving soon anyway

one more thing - saw SO MANY nice big h happy families yesterday!

all is well and all manner of things will be well guys .. seriously

Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 05, 2025 10:25 AM (Pv3Rg)

192 Previous thread about using a ten millimeter on a bear: Lewis and Clark ran into grizzlies in their travels out west. When they shot the grizzly with their 1803 era rifles, all it did was make the bear mad and so that he turned and ran at the guy who shot him.

When they killed a bear, they dug several balls out of it, including shot through the lungs. Grizzlies!

Posted by: JM in Illinois at July 05, 2025 10:25 AM (AtFJ+)

193 Me.

https://tinyurl.com/ysh73ybr

Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2025 10:26 AM (viF8m)

194 Instead of pretty, is it alright if I just feel ruggedly handsome?

Posted by: tankdemon at July 05, 2025 10:26 AM (FVLcK)

195 > IAEA - International Atomic Energy Agency ⚛️
@iaeaorg
An IAEA team of inspectors today safely departed from Iran to return to the Agency headquarters in Vienna, after staying in Tehran throughout the recent military conflict.
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This is the agency that spilled the beans about Iran's enrichment that kicked off the hostilities. Iran had been uncooperative with IAEA in the past, so their "stay" in Tehran may not have been by choice.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 05, 2025 10:27 AM (Q4IgG)

196 193 Me.

https://tinyurl.com/ysh73ybr


Kinda looks like Nessie. Are there camels in Scotland?

Posted by: Archimedes at July 05, 2025 10:28 AM (Riz8t)

197 What about coaching would be illegal aliens in the answers to questions and steps they can take to land squarely in the "seeking sanctuary from persecution back home" free space once they violate our borders?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot

The coaches need to be tortured, drawn, and quartered publicly as their coached students look on knowing they are next.

Ileagal alien invaders are not welcome. GTFO.

Posted by: BifBewalski at July 05, 2025 10:28 AM (xoDGp)

198 My semi yearly trips out Lancaster way see way overwhelming Trump support.

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2025 10:28 AM (+qU29)

199 The Majlis has passed a law prohibiting cooperation with the IAEA.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2025 10:28 AM (RIvkX)

200 182 A divorce would be much better, cost fewer lives.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 05, 2025 10:16 AM (KrOdt)

I’ve said before, I’ll say again - divorce is fine, but we keep the house.

There was actually a good essay on this topic last week, saying that what’s most likely is that people will continue to separate physically - leftists moving yo blue states, those who oppose them moving away from the blue states.
And while you might say “oh well then there will be two countries”, it won’t be that simple. Because only one of them is going to have all the jobs, all the industry, all the food and energy production - and the other will have dying cities full of bitter people and nothing else. Won’t be much of a contest if it comes down to it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2025 10:29 AM (Lhvai)

201 The Majlis has passed a law prohibiting cooperation with the IAEA.

Fine with me. They're useless. Of course, after the IAEA, the next interlocutor is Mr. MOP.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 05, 2025 10:29 AM (Riz8t)

202 A divorce would be messy, of course. But most divorces are. You work through it. Left gets the west coast, we get the Gulf Of America and the Atlantic up to New Jersey.

That’s a good starting point. And we work from there.

We wouldn’t have to be north and south kore. We still trade with each other, allow each side to visit, etc.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 05, 2025 10:35 AM (KrOdt)

203 Iran is going to f around and talk themselves into another bombing, just because they can’t STFU. It’s like some scrawny kid who got knocked down by a defensive lineman who then took pity on him. And then the kid jumped up and wouldn’t stop talking smack about how he’s gonna kick that lineman’s ass next time. Just keep it up, you’ll get your chance.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2025 10:36 AM (0DdMG)

204 I always like to check out historical cemeteries for some reason
Posted by: BlackOrchid nee Powell at July 05, 2025 10:23 AM (Pv3Rg)

Old rural cemeteries are peaceful. My parents used to take us to them during the summer. Rural Illinois… we’d see gravestones as old as from the 1830s

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 05, 2025 10:36 AM (nrfI8)

205 You don’t give the west coast of America + Hawaii to the Chinese Empire.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2025 10:37 AM (0DdMG)

206 We aren't going to split up the country. Giving away territory is a terrible idea.

Let's just beat them and take it all.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2025 10:37 AM (viF8m)

207 We wouldn’t have to be north and south kore. We still trade with each other, allow each side to visit, etc.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 05, 2025 10:35 AM (KrOdt)

I just don’t think it’s workable because there’s no clear geographical delineation. The small pockets of deep blue cities are surrounded by oceans of red. No rational place to draw the boundary lines

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 05, 2025 10:38 AM (nrfI8)

208 The only RC to sign the DOI- Charles Carroll of Carrollton :

https://tinyurl.com/aumw7s7y

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 05, 2025 10:38 AM (2GCMq)

209 A divorce would be much better, cost fewer lives.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 05, 2025 10:16 AM (KrOdt)
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It won't work. Look at all the other partitions - Korea, Vietnam, Germany - as soon as the treaty is dry, the left immediately spends all of its energy on subversion.

The same thing would happen here. It's already happening with the effort to do abortions in pro-life states and use interstate commerce to reverse-engineer green energy and gun control.

The answer is to engage and defeat them, wreck their finances, subvert their ideology and eventually prosecute their leaders.

And it is already underway. Without the USDAID money spigot, they are in trouble. With the voter rolls cleaned up, they'll lose dozens of seats, and having the feds sniffing into their money laundering is going to result in some unpleasant conversations.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2025 10:39 AM (ZOv7s)

210 Good morning all.
Well, my coffee is good.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 05, 2025 10:39 AM (t/2Uw)

211
Ok I was in high school - that was a great summer. Even though people think of the 70’s as full of malaise, the entire country got together that year and threw a huge party, parades, concerts and bicentennial festivals in almost every city. People wore red, white and blue all summer long.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2025 09:43 AM (Lhvai)

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I helped a work buddy make a long distance move to the DC area that summer. It was all very patriotic. Another time.

Posted by: JM in Illinois at July 05, 2025 10:40 AM (kYF0p)

212 The only RC to sign the DOI- Charles Carroll of Carrollton :

https://tinyurl.com/aumw7s7y

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 05, 2025 10:38 AM (2GCMq)
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Despite Maryland being founded as a refuge for English Catholics, by the time of the revolution, Catholics like Carroll could not vote or hold public office. His selection as a delegate was in itself an act of rebellion against the British.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2025 10:40 AM (ZOv7s)

213 A national divorce should be easy, as Leftifornia should do what they want and make their state a Leftist Hell Hole, but Leftists can't leave others alone

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2025 10:40 AM (+qU29)

214 Kinda looks like Nessie. Are there camels in Scotland?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 05, 2025 10:28 AM (Riz8t)

The Celtic Water Camel.

Posted by: The Osprey at July 05, 2025 10:40 AM (zghC2)

215 I love old cemeteries . The one in the town where our church is from dates from the 183O's
I like see what Bible verses they had chosen if they had done that and it is still legible.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 05, 2025 10:41 AM (2GCMq)

216 I just don’t think it’s workable because there’s no clear geographical delineation. The small pockets of deep blue cities are surrounded by oceans of red. No rational place to draw the boundary lines
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 05, 2025 10:38 AM (nrfI
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The cities will surrender in a matter of hours when the roads are cut and the railroad blocked.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2025 10:41 AM (ZOv7s)

217 Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2025 10:40 AM (ZOv7s)

Yes. It was a great thing!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 05, 2025 10:42 AM (2GCMq)

218 I just don’t think it’s workable because there’s no clear geographical delineation. The small pockets of deep blue cities are surrounded by oceans of red. No rational place to draw the boundary lines
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 05, 2025 10:38 AM (nrfI

It doesn’t have to be two countries. It can be two countries and many city-states. Those city states can form an alliance with Blue America. We could buy them out and the citizens move to Blue America.

And yes there will be leftists stuck in Old America and right people stuck in Blue America. Those people will either stay or move. They can be compensated if they wish to move.

Shit millions of people move state to state every year as it is. It’s not that big of a deal.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 05, 2025 10:42 AM (KrOdt)

219 Howdy Hordelings!

Posted by: Doof at July 05, 2025 10:42 AM (gpbGF)

220 Please pray for Canada. There but for the grace of God...

Posted by: Smellslikevictory at July 05, 2025 10:42 AM (jPdyB)

221 Massimo @Rainmaker1973

Five African grey parrots were removed from public view at Lincolnshire Wildlife Park in the UK after repeatedly swearing at visitors and laughing together.

The parrots — Billy, Eric, Tyson, Jade, and Elsie — were donated by different owners but quickly bonded.

X: https://bit.ly/3G8FBqQ

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 05, 2025 10:42 AM (P5BPp)

222 For some reason I keep thinking today is Sunday. I've done three things today , including looking for "Perfesser's" Book Thread thinking it's Sunday.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 05, 2025 10:43 AM (2G3gH)

223 For some reason I keep thinking today is Sunday. I've done three things today , including looking for "Perfesser's" Book Thread thinking it's Sunday.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 05, 2025 10:43 AM (2G3gH)


Unnecessary pants wearing?

Posted by: Doof at July 05, 2025 10:43 AM (gpbGF)

224 What to watch on July 5…?

Tour de France and Wimbledon are both fun!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 05, 2025 10:44 AM (WdMlw)

225 It doesn’t have to be two countries. It can be two countries and many city-states. Those city states can form an alliance with Blue America. We could buy them out and the citizens move to Blue America.

And yes there will be leftists stuck in Old America and right people stuck in Blue America. Those people will either stay or move. They can be compensated if they wish to move.

Shit millions of people move state to state every year as it is. It’s not that big of a deal.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 05, 2025 10:42 AM (KrOdt)
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All of those enclaves were be points of entry for a flood of illegals and we'll get a half dozen Gazas where they conduct low-intensity insurgency because they do NOT want to coexist. They want to control us or kill us.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2025 10:45 AM (ZOv7s)

226 I think the average leftist would be happy with a divorce as well. They don’t want to live with (perceived) racist cousin fucking Republicans any more than we want to live with them.

If someone did an honest poll on this I think it would have majority support on both sides.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 05, 2025 10:45 AM (KrOdt)

227 I manage two Catholic rural cemeteries and love taking care of them. It's so peaceful sitting on a bench at the larger one with mountains east and west of it just enjoying the quiet time. Plus many gravesites of the settlers of the area.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at July 05, 2025 10:45 AM (2NHgQ)

228 Posted by: BlackOrchid nee Powell at July 05, 2025 10:16 AM (Pv3Rg)

Sounds great! I have never been to the 4th of July activities , but have we have visited the town several times and had lunch and enjoyed our visit and the park very much.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 05, 2025 10:46 AM (2GCMq)

229 204 I always like to check out historical cemeteries for some reason
Posted by: BlackOrchid nee Powell at July 05, 2025 10:23 AM (Pv3Rg)

Old rural cemeteries are peaceful. My parents used to take us to them during the summer. Rural Illinois… we’d see gravestones as old as from the 1830s
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 05, 2025 10:36 AM (nrfI

I have heard tell that some folks would actually go to cemeteries to have picnics. I can see that happening in urban areas that didn't have many public parks or open spaces.

Posted by: tankdemon at July 05, 2025 10:46 AM (FVLcK)

230 Illegals in the blue city states would have to fly in. Can’t walk across the border anymore. That’s expensive.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 05, 2025 10:47 AM (KrOdt)

231 I think the average leftist would be happy with a divorce as well. They don’t want to live with (perceived) racist cousin fucking Republicans any more than we want to live with them.

If someone did an honest poll on this I think it would have majority support on both sides.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 05, 2025 10:45 AM (KrOdt)
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"Average leftists" have no voice in Democrat politics. Look at California, Colorado, NY, Illinois.

Oh, and they will happily invite the ChiComs in, and conclude treaties of mutual defense.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2025 10:47 AM (ZOv7s)

232 Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at July 05, 2025 10:45 AM (2NHgQ)

That's good of you to do and an important thing to do!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 05, 2025 10:47 AM (2GCMq)

233 Illegals in the blue city states would have to fly in. Can’t walk across the border anymore. That’s expensive.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 05, 2025 10:47 AM (KrOdt)
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Why would California lose its southern border? Will they also lose all their ports?

You get that their leaders will never honor any treaty, right?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2025 10:48 AM (ZOv7s)

234 29 24 dead
over 20 missing

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 05, 2025 08:30 AM (gbOdA)

Unbelievable.Breaks my heart.

Posted by: Easy the Elder at July 05, 2025 10:49 AM (8I4hW)

235 226 I think the average leftist would be happy with a divorce as well. They don’t want to live with (perceived) racist cousin fucking Republicans any more than we want to live with them.

If someone did an honest poll on this I think it would have majority support on both sides.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 05, 2025 10:45 AM (KrOdt)

My personal situation is why I wouldn’t want it. I live in Texas but many loved ones in LA area and most are elderly. 86 year old father in law should not have to move away from his lifetime home to get sane government. I’d prefer a long term struggle to politically regain those areas. Trump shows that what we previously might’ve thought impossible is not

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 05, 2025 10:49 AM (WdMlw)

236 Enclaves of Marxists around, a national divorce is coming, or civil war

Can i vote for civil war. Born and bred New Englander, and I don't want to give up my home. 35-40% of my neighbors are like minded. If we have to kill the rest so be it.

Posted by: From about That Time at July 05, 2025 10:49 AM (n4GiU)

237 221 Massimo @Rainmaker1973

Five African grey parrots were removed from public view at Lincolnshire Wildlife Park in the UK after repeatedly swearing at visitors and laughing together.

The parrots — Billy, Eric, Tyson, Jade, and Elsie — were donated by different owners but quickly bonded.

X: https://bit.ly/3G8FBqQ
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 05, 2025 10:42 AM (P5BPp)

Didn't Andrew Jackson's parrot cause a ruckus at his funeral due to its coarse language?

Posted by: tankdemon at July 05, 2025 10:49 AM (FVLcK)

238 A national divorce will never happen.

Not by choice anyway. There's way too much to lose from the government's perspective, regardless which party's in charge. Imagine the loss in revenue, prestige and power with only a fraction of the population there once was to lord over.

Our political class is way too self engrossed to allow it.

Like I said... it won't happen by choice. The other ways it might however...

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 05, 2025 10:49 AM (Q4IgG)

239 I have heard tell that some folks would actually go to cemeteries to have picnics. I can see that happening in urban areas that didn't have many public parks or open spaces.
Posted by: tankdemon at July 05, 2025 10:46 AM (FVLcK)

We did picnics! Might sound crazy but was actually very pleasant

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 05, 2025 10:51 AM (WdMlw)

240 If Alberta somehow manages to separate from Canuckistan that will be an aha moment for us. People will think, hmm if Alberta can do it why not us.

The globalists will probably never allow Alberta to do it though, precisely for this reason. It could cause a massive separation effort all over the world. .

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 05, 2025 10:51 AM (KrOdt)

241 No, good there , but my shorts are on backwards

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 05, 2025 10:51 AM (2G3gH)

242 Maryland then: we're a refuge for English Catholics.

Maryland today: if you can dream it, we can tax it.

Posted by: W. C. Fields at July 05, 2025 10:53 AM (XQo4F)

243 Sock fail.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 05, 2025 10:53 AM (XQo4F)

244 Since my update of this past week didn't quite make it to the esteemed keeper of the list: I did learn on Monday that the lymph nodes showed no signs of the cancer, meaning it had not spread. God heals. Now to get into rehab so I can get back to my usual determined hobbling around...

Posted by: Brother Tim sez at July 05, 2025 10:54 AM (ENA4W)

245 Can i vote for civil war. Born and bred New Englander, and I don't want to give up my home. 35-40% of my neighbors are like minded. If we have to kill the rest so be it.
Posted by: From about That Time at July 05, 2025 10:49 AM (n4GiU)
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The correlation of forces has shifted against the left, decisively so. Their elites are driving this, and they are about to turn their knives on each other as their funding streams dry up.

Partition rarely works even when its on ethno-nationalist lines. Politically, it's a non-starter.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2025 10:55 AM (ZOv7s)

246 204 I always like to check out historical cemeteries for some reason
Posted by: BlackOrchid nee Powell at July 05, 2025 10:23 AM (Pv3Rg)

Old rural cemeteries are peaceful. My parents used to take us to them during the summer. Rural Illinois… we’d see gravestones as old as from the 1830s
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 05, 2025 10:36 AM (nrfI

I have heard tell that some folks would actually go to cemeteries to have picnics. I can see that happening in urban areas that didn't have many public parks or open spaces.
Posted by: tankdemon at July 05, 2025 10:46 AM (FVLcK)

Stay away from cemeteries! The dead will rise up and come after you.

Posted by: Johnny and Barbara at July 05, 2025 10:55 AM (wVcYX)

247 Heh heh. Parrots taught each other how to cuss..
Put them back on display.
I see money in that. People will come from miles away to be cussed at by a bunch of parrots.

Posted by: Reforger at July 05, 2025 10:55 AM (SJnNf)

248 242 Maryland then: we're a refuge for English Catholics.

Maryland today: if you can dream it, we can tax it.
Posted by: W. C. Fields at July 05, 2025 10:53 AM (XQo4F)

Comment 212 by Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd has bit of insight into this.

Posted by: tankdemon at July 05, 2025 10:56 AM (FVLcK)

249 Stay away from cemeteries! The dead will rise up and come after you.

What about if we just move the headstones, but not the bodies? That'd be okay, right?

Posted by: Archimedes at July 05, 2025 10:57 AM (Riz8t)

250 All the Jurassic Park movies today on FX. The first one is on now.

Laura Dern has a nice butt in those khaki shorts.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at July 05, 2025 10:57 AM (ufFY8)

251 Whenever I'm in a cemetery walking around I like to ask myself "So who's the richest person here?"

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 05, 2025 10:58 AM (XQo4F)

252 Heh heh. Parrots taught each other how to cuss..
Put them back on display.
I see money in that. People will come from miles away to be cussed at by a bunch of parrots.
Posted by: Reforger at July 05, 2025 10:55 AM (SJnNf)
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Film the interactions and put them on youtube. Millions and millions of views.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2025 10:58 AM (ZOv7s)

253
Maryland today: if you can dream it, we can tax it.
Posted by: W. C. Fields at July 05, 2025 10:53 AM (XQo4F)

I checked and Maryland’s top income tax is 5.75%. Compare that to deep red states like Montana Nebraska and Idaho which all have a higher rate.

Those 3 have lower (or in the case of Montana no) sales tax. In the end they all fuck you equally. They just do it in different ways.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 05, 2025 10:59 AM (KrOdt)

254 I have heard tell that some folks would actually go to cemeteries to have picnics. I can see that happening in urban areas that didn't have many public parks or open spaces.
Posted by: tankdemon at July 05, 2025 10:46 AM (FVLcK)

To double back on a topic mentioned earlier, you’d be amazed at how many kids have been conceived in cemeteries - nice quiet place, not a lot of people around. Check out the backstory for the Dicky Betts song “In memory of Elizabeth Reed”.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2025 10:59 AM (0DdMG)

255 If you would all keep my parents and aunt in prayer I'd appreciate it. They have been caring for my grandparents full time for 12 years and both grandparents just passed away. There isn't much grief, since Grandma was 95 and had dementia for a long time and Grandpa was 101 and was very ready to go home, but there will be a lot of adjustment as the center fact of their lives (other than God) is now gone.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 05, 2025 10:59 AM (lFFaq)

256 243 Sock fail.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 05, 2025 10:53 AM (XQo4F)

Darn it!

Posted by: tankdemon at July 05, 2025 10:59 AM (FVLcK)

257 States are supposed to be 50 different enclaves originally. But we know any Leftist state would lose people eventually as they run out of money sucking it out of the prosperous portion of the citizens.

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2025 11:00 AM (+qU29)

258 My kids both learned to ride their two wheeler bicycle at Swan Point Cemetery in Providence. Beautiful place, unless Cthulu ia visiting his daddy.

Posted by: From about That Time at July 05, 2025 11:00 AM (n4GiU)

259 Heh heh. Parrots taught each other how to cuss..
Put them back on display.
I see money in that. People will come from miles away to be cussed at by a bunch of parrots.
Posted by: Reforger at July 05, 2025 10:55 AM (SJnNf)

People came from all over just for the chance to get noticed and insulted by me.

Posted by: Zombie Don Rickles at July 05, 2025 11:01 AM (wVcYX)

260 To double back on a topic mentioned earlier, you’d be amazed at how many kids have been conceived in cemeteries - nice quiet place, not a lot of people around. Check out the backstory for the Dicky Betts song “In memory of Elizabeth Reed”.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2025 10:59 AM (0DdMG)
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When I was in high school, a particularly scenic and accessible cemetery was a known make-out spot. The spookiness got the girls all existed, or so I was told. I never visited it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2025 11:02 AM (ZOv7s)

261 Between Canada and America we could carve out 4 or 5 countries. Make everyone happy. I know it’s a pipe dream. But a dude can dream can’t he?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 05, 2025 11:03 AM (KrOdt)

262 I got insulted by a bunch of jive crows. Billions of views worldwide and built a theme park empire from it.

Posted by: Dumbo at July 05, 2025 11:03 AM (wVcYX)

263 I checked and Maryland’s top income tax is 5.75%. Compare that to deep red states like Montana Nebraska and Idaho which all have a higher rate.

Those 3 have lower (or in the case of Montana no) sales tax. In the end they all fuck you equally. They just do it in different ways.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 05, 2025 10:59 AM (KrOdt)
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No, some states are more sane that others. This is known. One has to look at the total package - income, sales, property and then secondary taxes like liquor, alcohol, etc.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2025 11:04 AM (ZOv7s)

264 Friend of mine got caught screwing his girlfriend in a cemetery in Groton MA back in the day. Late sixties.
Got himself some cred back at school it did.

Posted by: From about That Time at July 05, 2025 11:05 AM (n4GiU)

265 I grew up from 7 to 17 with a cemetery behind my house.
I have stories.

Posted by: Reforger at July 05, 2025 11:06 AM (SJnNf)

266 I never visited it.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2025 11:02 AM (ZOv7s)

I never visited it!! He protested vigorously… and too much ;-)

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 05, 2025 11:06 AM (nrfI8)

267 What about if we just move the headstones, but not the bodies? That'd be okay, right?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 05, 2025 10:57 AM (Riz8t)

Sure, if you want your house sucked up into a supernatural black hole after a night of terror.

Posted by: Craig T. Nelson as Carol Anne's Dad at July 05, 2025 11:06 AM (wVcYX)

268 There is an infinite supply of help above when we go to GOD in prayer. GOD offers comfort, healing, courage……..and grace. Let’s go to Him in prayer.

Lord, we thank You for blessings already received, the greatest being salvation.
Amen

Posted by: Eromero at July 05, 2025 11:08 AM (CuubL)

269
1: place in tall dry grass.
2: light fuse.
3: run away.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 05, 2025 11:08 AM (/eH1B)

270 I never visited it!! He protested vigorously… and too much ;-)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 05, 2025 11:06 AM (nrfI
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When we'd drive to see my in-laws in Kentucky, we would visit cemeteries because my wife was into genealogy. It became a byword for boredom for the kids. "Can we finally go on a vacation that doesn't involve a cemetery?!"

The cemetery in question is right off a main road. Upon reflection I might have been there for a funeral or something.

But I didn't use it as a makeout place.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2025 11:09 AM (ZOv7s)

271 RE cemetery parking / makeout spots: The hook hand on the car's door handle gets 'em every time. Surefire winner.

Posted by: Mike Damone and his 5 Point Plan, updated at July 05, 2025 11:09 AM (wVcYX)

272 No, some states are more sane that others. This is known. One has to look at the total package - income, sales, property and then secondary taxes like liquor, alcohol, etc.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2025 11:04 AM (ZOv7s)

That’s what I said.

I used sales and income tax as examples. But it applies to everything as you say. But they all fuck you more or less equally.

There are the extremes like California and Illinois. They’re just at the top right corner of the graph. But all the other states kinda congregate within general win a general area of the chart.

I live in a supposedly low tax, “conservative” state. And then my city and county rape me in property tax add ons. Because the state allows them to do whatever they want. As well as a state income tax in the top 1/3 nationally.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 05, 2025 11:10 AM (KrOdt)

273 There's a park in downtown Ventura that still has tombstones.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 05, 2025 11:11 AM (/eH1B)

274 I asked ChatGPT to calculate my taxes in 2024 vs 2025 with the bbb.

I will save a grand total of….drumroll please…. $890.

It’s not nothing. But yeah it kinda is. I need to get a job that pays me in “tips” and “overtime”. Then I’ll clean up.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 05, 2025 11:18 AM (KrOdt)

275 Hey guys, look what was in the OBBB

SEC. 40006. CORPORATE AVERAGE FUEL ECONOMY CIVIL PENALTIES.

(a) In General.--Section 32912 of title 49, United States Code, is
amended--
(1) in subsection (b), in the matter preceding paragraph
(1), by striking ``$5'' and inserting ``$0.00''; and
(2) in subsection (c)(1)(B), by striking ``$10'' and
inserting ``$0.00''.
(b) Effect; Applicability.--The amendments made by subsection (a)
shall--
(1) take effect on the date of enactment of this section;
and
(2) apply to all model years of a manufacturer for which
the Secretary of Transportation has not provided a notification
pursuant to section 32903(b)(2)(B) of title 49, United States
Code, specifying the penalty due for the average fuel economy
of that manufacturer being less than the applicable standard
prescribed under section 32902 of that title.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 05, 2025 11:19 AM (D7oie)

276 Nood. The one after this one.

Posted by: From about That Time at July 05, 2025 11:21 AM (n4GiU)

277 275:

What does that mean?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 05, 2025 11:25 AM (KrOdt)

278 A divorce would be messy, of course. But most divorces are. You work through it. Left gets the west coast, we get the Gulf Of America and the Atlantic up to New Jersey.

That’s a good starting point. And we work from there.

We wouldn’t have to be north and south kore. We still trade with each other, allow each side to visit, etc.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 05, 2025 10:35 AM (KrOdt)

Totally delusional. Reference Europe. Not workable, nor possible. Something, something, 1860's.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at July 05, 2025 11:27 AM (5xuJ/)

279 Prayers for all.

Posted by: Mick at July 05, 2025 12:19 PM (HFx9z)

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