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Atlantic Writer Tells Her Fellow Liberals: You're Living in an Anti-Scientific Media Bubble Impervious to Fact, Everything You "Know" About "Trans Affirming Medical Care" is a Lie

A writer at The Atlantic spills the beans and informs magazine's braindead Affluent Winebox Female Liberal audience that the "science" of transgenderism is entirely fictitious.

Oof. Karen's going to open and finish three whole wine boxes tonight.

The Liberal Misinformation Bubble About Youth Gender Medicine

How the left ended up disbelieving the science

Allow children to transition, or they will kill themselves. For more than a decade, this has been the strongest argument in favor of youth gender medicine--a scenario so awful that it stifled any doubts or questions about puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones.

"We often ask parents, 'Would you rather have a dead son than a live daughter?'" Johanna Olson-Kennedy of Children's Hospital Los Angeles once explained to ABC News. Variations on the phrase crop up in innumerable media articles and public statements by influencers, activists, and LGBTQ groups. The same idea--that the choice is transition or death--appeared in the arguments made by Elizabeth Prelogar, the Biden administration's solicitor general, before the Supreme Court last year.
Tennessee's law prohibiting the use of puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones to treat minors with gender dysphoria would, she said, "increase the risk of suicide."

But there is a huge problem with this emotive formulation: It isn't true. When Justice Samuel Alito challenged the ACLU lawyer Chase Strangio on such claims during oral arguments, Strangio made a startling admission. [Sh]e conceded that there is no evidence to support the idea that medical transition reduces adolescent suicide rates.

At first, Strangio dodged the question, saying that research shows that blockers and hormones reduce "depression, anxiety, and suicidality"--that is, suicidal thoughts. (Even that is debatable, according to reviews of the research literature.) But when Alito referenced a systematic review conducted for the Cass report in England, Strangio conceded the point. "There is no evidence in some--in the studies that this treatment reduces completed suicide," [sh]e said. "And the reason for that is completed suicide, thankfully and admittedly, is rare, and we're talking about a very small population of individuals with studies that don't necessarily have completed suicides within them."

Here was the trans-rights movement's greatest legal brain, speaking in front of the nation's highest court. And what [sh]e was saying was that the strongest argument for a hotly debated treatment was, in fact, not supported by the evidence.

Even then, [her] admission did not register with the liberal justices. When the court voted 6--3 to uphold the Tennessee law, Sonia Sotomayor claimed in her dissent that "access to care can be a question of life or death." If she meant any kind of therapeutic support, that might be defensible. But claiming that this is true of medical transition specifically--the type of care being debated in the Skrmetti case--is not supported by the current research.

Advocates of the open-science movement often talk about "zombie facts"--popular sound bites that persist in public debate, even when they have been repeatedly discredited. Many common political claims made in defense of puberty blockers and hormones for gender-dysphoric minors meet this definition. These zombie facts have been flatly contradicted not just by conservatives but also by prominent advocates and practitioners of the treatment--at least when they're speaking candidly. Many liberals are unaware of this, however, because they are stuck in media bubbles in which well-meaning commentators make confident assertions for youth gender medicine--claims from which its elite advocates have long since retreated.

Perhaps the existence of this bubble shouldn't be surprising. Many of the most fervent advocates of youth transition are also on record disparaging the idea that it should be debated at all. Strangio--who works for the country's best-known free-speech organization--once tweeted that [she] would like to scuttle Abigail Shrier's book Irreversible Damage, a skeptical treatment of youth gender medicine. Strangio declared, "Stopping the circulation of this book and these ideas is 100% a hill I will die on." Marci Bowers, the former head of the World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH), the most prominent organization for gender-medicine providers, has likened skepticism of child gender medicine to Holocaust denial. "There are not two sides to this issue," she once said, according to a recent episode of The Protocol, a New York Times podcast.

Boasting about your unwillingness to listen to your opponents probably plays well in some crowds. But it left Strangio badly exposed in front of the Supreme Court, where it became clear that the conservative justices had read the most convincing critiques of hormones and blockers--and had some questions as a result.

Trans-rights activists like to accuse skeptics of youth gender medicine--and publications that dare to report their views--of fomenting a "moral panic." But the movement has spent the past decade telling gender-nonconforming children that anyone who tries to restrict access to puberty blockers and hormones is, effectively, trying to kill them. This was false, as Strangio's answer tacitly conceded. It was also irresponsible.

After England restricted the use of puberty blockers in 2020, the government asked an expert psychologist, Louis Appleby, to investigate whether the suicide rate for patients at the country's youth gender clinic rose dramatically as a result. It did not: In fact, he did not find any increase in suicides at all, despite the lurid claims made online. "The way that this issue has been discussed on social media has been insensitive, distressing and dangerous, and goes against guidance on safe reporting of suicide," Appleby reported. "One risk is that young people and their families will be terrified by predictions of suicide as inevitable without puberty blockers."

When red-state bans are discussed, you will also hear liberals say that conservative fears about the medical-transition pathway are overwrought--because all children get extensive, personalized assessments before being prescribed blockers or hormones. This, too, is untrue. Although the official standards of care recommend thorough assessment over several months, many American clinics say they will prescribe blockers on a first visit.

Meanwhile:

During the fake "Pride Month" of June, our publicly-funded libraries become key communications and command nodes for woke gay zealots, writes James John Murawsi of Real Clear Investigations.

While librarians and their supporters consistently decry critiques of their LGBTQ advocacy as censorship, less attention has been paid to the actual content of the books the librarians promote. RCI's review of dozens of titles on display, lots of them heavy on pictures and graphics, found some gender identity books aimed at children as young as 2 years old, and others that put LGBTQ in the vanguard of a political revolution against the capitalist patriarchy.

Among the queer histories, biographies and teen fiction, some books are written for queer-affirming families to support youngsters whose sexual interests span nonbinary pronouns, transgenderism and pansexuality. A recurring trope in these books is the glamorization of medicalized sex changes as brave and heroic, with several books featuring children proudly discussing their chest binders and displaying chest scars from top surgery.

For elementary schoolers, there's "Gender Identity for Kids: A Book About Finding Yourself, Understanding Others, and Respecting Everybody!" This 98-page primer recommended for children ages 7-10 introduces young readers to such concepts as sex assigned at birth, intersex, transgender, agender, bigender, pangender, polygender, misgender, genderfluid, genderqueer, genderflux, neutrois, androgyne transphobia, as well as overtly leftwing political concepts including patriarchy, colonization, intersectionality, safe spaces, and allyship.

"Their gender is fluid," the book says of a child named Finn, "which means it can change direction over time, just like the wind or the clouds in the sky!"

Teens can find fantasy novels such as "Whiskey When We're Dry," which is set in 1885 and tells the story of a female homesteader who cuts her hair and binds her chest, and "Rainbow Rainbow," which features a nonbinary writer "on the eve of top surgery," a sperm donor, and a "sex-addicted librarian."

A surprising number of books expressly criticize heterosexuality, the nuclear family, and the gender binary as obstacles to liberating humanity from capitalism, racism, colonialism, and other forms of oppression purportedly produced by white, male, Christian, Eurocentric cultural norms. A nonfiction work on display, "The Tragedy of Heterosexuality," describes straight culture as oppressive, repellent, repulsive, and pitiable -- in short: "a sick and boring life."

The books consistently define queerness as anything and everything that's not heterosexual and "cisgender," an expansive understanding of the gay pride movement also affirmed by several of the libraries that display identity flags or bookmarks celebrating an omnium-gatherum of sexual identities that constitute the movement's pantheon: Demisexual, Bisexual, Intersex, Asexual, Agender, Nonbinary, Genderfluid, Pangender, Polyamory, Polysexual, and Two-Spirit.

Although wokeness is in retreat in some quarters -- corporations are scaling back DEI programs and 24 states have moved to block medicalized sex changes for minors -- librarians have emerged as the unlikely shock troops of the queer resistance. Their version of what the movement stands for and what should be celebrated during Pride Month offers a more militant crusade against conventional society than many Americans may realize.

BBB Update: Hakeem Jeffries, still filibustering, proclaims that the passage of the bill means "a deportation machine will be unleashed on steroids."

Second look at the BBB...?!?!

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1 1st

Posted by: GF at July 03, 2025 01:05 PM (UhUim)

2 Now do climate change.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 01:05 PM (GBKbO)

3 FIRST WITH THE MOST

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 01:06 PM (iFTx/)

4 Bold move.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 03, 2025 01:06 PM (ExV1e)

5 a bit late now

and they were less concerned about suicides than they were more interested in having a hetero "son" instead of a lesbian daughter (or the other way around).

this was conversion therapy, with a veneer of The Science, pushed by autogynephiliacs and quacks.

Posted by: Black Orchid at July 03, 2025 01:07 PM (Pv3Rg)

6 Gay books for everyone. No exceptions.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 03, 2025 01:07 PM (Q4IgG)

7 I told the funky people.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 03, 2025 01:07 PM (ExV1e)

8 SPONGE!!!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 03, 2025 01:07 PM (ULPxl)

9 I went to Kroger a month ago to shop for a boy scout campout and I saw a trifecta! A white 30ish slightly over weight woman wearing a Taylor Swift Eras tour t shirt with a box of Franzia and 2(!!) pints of Hagen Dazs. She was ready for one hell of a Thursday night.

Posted by: mishdog at July 03, 2025 01:08 PM (2OWZD)

10 *curses*

*tosses pies everywhere*

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 03, 2025 01:08 PM (ULPxl)

11 Ass whore pride!

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 03, 2025 01:09 PM (Iv8wu)

12
This was our position all along. The 'trans agenda' is something Republicans made up.

Posted by: Democrat 2026 rough draft at July 03, 2025 01:09 PM (Rrsaq)

13 That's an awesome Self-TERF.

She will not be embraced for talking such sense.

Posted by: garrett at July 03, 2025 01:09 PM (T4A2M)

14 12
This was our position all along. The 'trans agenda' is something Republicans made up.
Posted by: Democrat 2026 rough draft at July 03, 2025 01:09 PM (Rrsaq)

======

"Shut your whore mouth, or I don't give you $200 million."
-JD Pritzker

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 01:09 PM (GBKbO)

15 Trans The Atlantic!

Posted by: It's my new bumper sticker at July 03, 2025 01:10 PM (WeCH6)

16 "There is no evidence in some--in the studies that this treatment reduces completed suicide," [sh]e said. "And the reason for that is completed suicide, thankfully and admittedly, is rare, and we're talking about a very small population of individuals with studies that don't necessarily have completed suicides within them."
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Interesting how she focuses on "completed suicides" but doesn't address the issue of attempted suicides. I suspect that number is far, far higher than most people realize.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 03, 2025 01:10 PM (7fElN)

17 No, we're not doing an amnesty for *this*, either.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 03, 2025 01:10 PM (ULPxl)

18 Now do climate catastrophe!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Big Mouth of the West at July 03, 2025 01:10 PM (L/fGl)

19 I went to Kroger a month ago to shop for a boy scout campout and I saw a trifecta! A white 30ish slightly over weight woman wearing a Taylor Swift Eras tour t shirt with a box of Franzia and 2(!!) pints of Hagen Dazs. She was ready for one hell of a Thursday night.
Posted by: mishdog

I gots a better one. Went to all-night grocery many moons ago to get something for a sick baby.
Woman in front of me could barely fit between the two checkouts. She had two cakes.
But they were Weight-Watcher's cakes!

Posted by: MkY at July 03, 2025 01:11 PM (+Pp+Q)

20 "A writer at The Atlantic spills the beans and informs magazine's braindead Affluent Winebox Female Liberal audience that the 'science' of transgenderism is entirely fictitious."

I don't think anyone actually believes the "science" of this butcher cult. The "science" is just the fig leaf to cover the open oozing wound that was once a confused boy's crotch.

Trans butchery is fueled by three things: (i) money, (ii) rage at the world, and (iii) radical sex politics that pit insane lunatics against normals.

It has absolutely nothing to do with "science," and I don't think anyone really believes it does.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 01:11 PM (iFTx/)

21 This was false, as Strangio's answer tacitly conceded. It was also irresponsible.

and mostly, it was evil. When the trans advocates started getting too much pushback they started with the "save the dollies" campaign. Dollies, don't have real genitals, and can be blow up dolls for perverts. At the end of the day, transing only benefits dishonest doctors, PP, and perverts

Posted by: night lifted at July 03, 2025 01:11 PM (FZn/N)

22 Turn up the AC and wear shorts. You'll be fine.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 03, 2025 01:12 PM (Iv8wu)

23 >>> 19 I went to Kroger a month ago to shop for a boy scout campout and I saw a trifecta! A white 30ish slightly over weight woman wearing a Taylor Swift Eras tour t shirt with a box of Franzia and 2(!!) pints of Hagen Dazs. She was ready for one hell of a Thursday night.
Posted by: mishdog

I gots a better one. Went to all-night grocery many moons ago to get something for a sick baby.
Woman in front of me could barely fit between the two checkouts. She had two cakes.
But they were Weight-Watcher's cakes!
Posted by: MkY at July 03, 2025 01:11 PM (+Pp+Q)

She wants to *watch* her weight, not decrease it.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 03, 2025 01:12 PM (ULPxl)

24 "Karen's going to open and finish three whole wine boxes tonight."

Almost every Karen is a three hole wine box.

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at July 03, 2025 01:12 PM (4DY5T)

25 This has been known for decades - that mentally ill people who choose to mutilate themselves are no happier, no less depressed, and no less likely to kill themselves after surgery than they were before surgery.

It has required an enormous perversion of the whole system of medical research and evaluation to allow this to go on for as long as it has.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 03, 2025 01:12 PM (xTIDn)

26 Problem is after turning Trannie the suicide attempts goes through the roof

Posted by: Skip at July 03, 2025 01:12 PM (+qU29)

27 BBB Update: Hakeem Jeffries, still filibustering, proclaims that the passage of the bill means "a deportation machine will be unleashed on steroids."

Second look at the BBB...?!?!

=======

I mean...I've been saying that the OBBB increases deportation funding by about $200 billion, the only actual increase in spending (aside from some payoffs of Murk) in the bill.

$45 to the wall and $150 to ICE to increase their body count and holding capacity.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 01:12 PM (GBKbO)

28 A surprising number of books expressly criticize heterosexuality, the nuclear family, and the gender binary as obstacles to liberating humanity from capitalism, racism, colonialism, and other forms of oppression purportedly produced by white, male, Christian, Eurocentric cultural norms. A nonfiction work on display, "The Tragedy of Heterosexuality," describes straight culture as oppressive, repellent, repulsive, and pitiable -- in short: "a sick and boring life."
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I hate to break it to these librarians, but if everyone was gay, the entire human race would quickly die out. Which is one form of liberating us from capitalism, I suppose.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 03, 2025 01:13 PM (7fElN)

29 "There is no evidence in some--in the studies that this treatment reduces completed suicide," [sh]e said. "And the reason for that is completed suicide, thankfully and admittedly, is rare, and we're talking about a very small population of individuals with studies that don't necessarily have completed suicides within them."
----
Interesting how she focuses on "completed suicides" but doesn't address the issue of attempted suicides. I suspect that number is far, far higher than most people realize.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 03, 2025 01:10 PM (7fElN)
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Yea. Use of the very odd term "completed" sent up a red flare for me.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 01:13 PM (iFTx/)

30 >>> 25 This has been known for decades - that mentally ill people who choose to mutilate themselves are no happier, no less depressed, and no less likely to kill themselves after surgery than they were before surgery.

It has required an enormous perversion of the whole system of medical research and evaluation to allow this to go on for as long as it has.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 03, 2025 01:12 PM (xTIDn)

Thanks, American "Medical" Association!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 03, 2025 01:13 PM (ULPxl)

31 > Strangio--who works for the country's best-known free-speech organization--once tweeted that [she] would like to scuttle Abigail Shrier's book Irreversible Damage, a skeptical treatment of youth gender medicine.

>"the country's best-known free-speech organization"

Pull the other one.

Posted by: mr tmz at July 03, 2025 01:13 PM (rJ48h)

32 stuck in media bubbles in which well-meaning commentators
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She was doing so well!

Posted by: ... at July 03, 2025 01:13 PM (VPwHp)

33 Hypocratic Oath?

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 03, 2025 01:14 PM (Iv8wu)

34 But, we were told that the Democrat Party was the PARTY OF SCIENCE!

Posted by: redridinghood at July 03, 2025 01:14 PM (NpAcC)

35 A surprising number of books expressly criticize heterosexuality, the nuclear family, and the gender binary as obstacles to liberating humanity from capitalism, racism, colonialism, and other forms of oppression purportedly produced by white, male, Christian, Eurocentric cultural norms. A nonfiction work on display, "The Tragedy of Heterosexuality," describes straight culture as oppressive, repellent, repulsive, and pitiable -- in short: "a sick and boring life."
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I hate to break it to these librarians, but if everyone was gay, the entire human race would quickly die out. Which is one form of liberating us from capitalism, I suppose.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 03, 2025 01:13 PM (7fElN)
__________

"Yea, I wrote about this decades ago."

-- Joe Haldeman

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 01:14 PM (iFTx/)

36 26 Problem is after turning Trannie the suicide attempts goes through the roof
Posted by: Skip at July 03, 2025 01:12 PM (+qU29)

With any luck, if they suicide they take out the people who lured them into the abyss first. If they don't suicide, I'd vote to acquit.

Posted by: night lifted at July 03, 2025 01:14 PM (FZn/N)

37 "We often ask parents, 'Would you rather have a dead son than a live daughter?'" Johanna Olson-Kennedy of Children's Hospital Los Angeles once explained to ABC News.

Well, you get the dead son either way. If the kid transitions, the resulting Frankenstein monster has in fact murdered your son.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 03, 2025 01:14 PM (SMy0Z)

38 Now do climate change.
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"Climate change" deserves a thousand percent more public mocking than it currently receives.

Posted by: Crusader at July 03, 2025 01:14 PM (TN0g+)

39 2 Now do climate change.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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That is coming due to Big Tech wanting their AI centers. The bonus is that we will probably be nuking it up rather than the lame, gay, stick a chick in it, 'renewable' energy.

Posted by: whig at July 03, 2025 01:15 PM (ctrM5)

40 stuck in media bubbles in which well-meaning commentators
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I mean I won't be too hard on her. I know you have to modulate yourself sometimes to be "heard". I mean, I - of all people - know that.

Posted by: ... at July 03, 2025 01:15 PM (VPwHp)

41 Jeffries, still filibustering, proclaims that the passage of the bill means "a deportation machine will be unleashed on steroids."


So....he gets it!

Posted by: Diogenes at July 03, 2025 01:15 PM (1bdKO)

42
>>Here was the trans-rights movement's greatest legal brain, speaking in front of the nation's highest court. And what [sh]e was saying was that the strongest argument for a hotly debated treatment was, in fact, not supported by the evidence.

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I'm genuinely curious about something. These people lie to the public all day long. What would the penalty have been if she'd said to Alito, "Our own studies yield an abundance of evidence that gender transition prevents suicide"?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 03, 2025 01:15 PM (Rrsaq)

43 Thanks, American "Medical" Association!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 03, 2025 01:13 PM (ULPxl)

Special shout out to that freak man Rachel Levine.

Posted by: night lifted at July 03, 2025 01:15 PM (FZn/N)

44 I've long felt that the Gay Stuff and the Trans Stuff were political psyops to demoralize (literally) the US citizenry. Typical divide-and-conquer bullshit divorced from all traditional value doctrines. The NGOs and their MSM allies scream that America and conservative Americans are inherently evil and are preventing the country from entering a new, Golden Age, when the Political Class assumes its role as judge, jury, and executioner for all and forever.

Posted by: mrp at July 03, 2025 01:15 PM (rj6Yv)

45 39 2 Now do climate change.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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That is coming due to Big Tech wanting their AI centers. The bonus is that we will probably be nuking it up rather than the lame, gay, stick a chick in it, 'renewable' energy.
Posted by: whig at July 03, 2025 01:15 PM (ctrM5)

=====

I'm just looking forward to establishment Democrat mouthpieces trying to convince their true believers that Amazon can have nukes but Los Angeles needs to function off solar.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 01:16 PM (GBKbO)

46 Jeffries, still filibustering, proclaims that the passage of the bill means "a deportation machine will be unleashed on steroids."

If only...

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 03, 2025 01:16 PM (mlg/3)

47 So glad the Atlantic waited until after Pride Month to post...

Posted by: Troofer at July 03, 2025 01:16 PM (S+el1)

48 41 Yes. Why is he trying to sell it to us?

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 03, 2025 01:16 PM (Iv8wu)

49 I mean...I've been saying that the OBBB increases deportation funding by about $200 billion, the only actual increase in spending (aside from some payoffs of Murk) in the bill.

$45 to the wall and $150 to ICE to increase their body count and holding capacity.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 01:12 PM (GBKbO)


But you're just an illiterate asshoe who watches movies.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 03, 2025 01:16 PM (ExV1e)

50 A writer at The Atlantic spills the beans and informs magazine's braindead Affluent Winebox Female Liberal audience that the "science" of transgenderism is entirely fictitious.


She can beat 'em over the head with reality, but it probably won't do any good. They should have figured out a long time ago that putting men, who claim to be women, in women's sports is a losing issue. I'm always amazed at how much courage it took for Riley Gaines to make a stand.

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 03, 2025 01:16 PM (0Htd1)

51 Western Lensman@WesternLensman
Dem Rep Crow says his constituents’ lives hang in the balance if the OBBB passes:
"There are literally people that I represent who don't know if they're going to survive."
Good lord. The theatrics here are next-level.

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Some may be forced to get honest work!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Big Mouth of the West at July 03, 2025 01:16 PM (L/fGl)

52 Back in the ancient times when I was young, they restricted some books. You had to have a parent's permission to check them out. They were nothing like this, maybe history books that went into Roman orgies and such. And this was in California. Now, it's less of an issue since the libraries are full of homeless people.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 03, 2025 01:17 PM (AcTAo)

53 >>> 45

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I'm just looking forward to establishment Democrat mouthpieces trying to convince their true believers that Amazon can have nukes but Los Angeles needs to function off solar.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 01:16 PM (GBKbO)

As if they'd issue building permits for any solar power, anyway.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 03, 2025 01:17 PM (ULPxl)

54 Interesting how she focuses on "completed suicides" but doesn't address the issue of attempted suicides. I suspect that number is far, far higher than most people realize.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 03, 2025 01:10 PM (7fElN)

There's a problem with counting "attempted" suicides. I have a family member with off and on mental health issues, and she has "attempted" suicide at least a dozen times (and threatened to do it 100 times, whenever she argues with someone else) Each attempt was carefully done so that it would fail or be interrupted in some way. I'm slow, but after the 9th or 10th time I figured out "hey this is all just you starring in your own personal drama, isn't it?"

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 03, 2025 01:17 PM (uWKK8)

55 5 a bit late now

and they were less concerned about suicides than they were more interested in having a hetero "son" instead of a lesbian daughter (or the other way around).

this was conversion therapy, with a veneer of The Science, pushed by autogynephiliacs and quacks.
Posted by: Black Orchid
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Similar to the lobotomization craze and the sterilization craze to save us from overpopulation.

Posted by: whig at July 03, 2025 01:17 PM (ctrM5)

56 Woke is ded.

Posted by: eleven at July 03, 2025 01:17 PM (fV+MH)

57 Interesting how she focuses on "completed suicides" but doesn't address the issue of attempted suicides. I suspect that number is far, far higher than most people realize.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 03, 2025 01:10 PM (7fElN)

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Ben Shapiro used to quote the one study done that he was aware of, and it showed that there was no difference in the suicide rate before and after transition. Meaning transition did not lower the suicide rate.

I have no idea if any more studies have been done since then.

Posted by: Darth Randall at July 03, 2025 01:17 PM (f1kZG)

58 America turned my dog gay. Just this morning. My young daughter and her cousin poured glitter all through his fur, and now he looks like a Miami Beach rave dog.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 03, 2025 01:17 PM (BI5O2)

59

Soo...are there puberty UNblockers out there, for when the person with a blocked puberty can time travel back before blocking puberty to have a puberty, at you know, 35 years of age?

Maybe Chase Strange, the bookburning weirdo, can answer that.



Posted by: REv Dr E Buzz at July 03, 2025 01:18 PM (FJcBr)

60 44 I've long felt that the Gay Stuff and the Trans Stuff were political psyops to demoralize (literally) the US citizenry. Typical divide-and-conquer bullshit divorced from all traditional value doctrines. The NGOs and their MSM allies scream that America and conservative Americans are inherently evil and are preventing the country from entering a new, Golden Age, when the Political Class assumes its role as judge, jury, and executioner for all and forever.
Posted by: mrp at July 03, 2025 01:15 PM (rj6Yv)


And you'd be right. AS Mike Benz told Tucker " USAID funds these LGTBQ groups in order to destabilize their societies"

Posted by: night lifted at July 03, 2025 01:18 PM (FZn/N)

61 "a deportation machine will be unleashed on steroids."

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I thought they called those trebuchets.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Big Mouth of the West at July 03, 2025 01:18 PM (L/fGl)

62 Here was the trans-rights movement's greatest legal brain, speaking in front of the nation's highest court. And what [sh]e was saying was that the strongest argument for a hotly debated treatment was, in fact, not supported by the evidence.

=============

I'm genuinely curious about something. These people lie to the public all day long. What would the penalty have been if she'd said to Alito, "Our own studies yield an abundance of evidence that gender transition prevents suicide"?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 03, 2025 01:15 PM (Rrsaq)
_________

The studies would have to be in the appellate record. Or at a minimum judicially noticable. You can't just make up shit at an appellate level. You have to have a cite to the record. Had this freak made up some study, Alito would have immediately asked "where in the record is this?"

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 01:19 PM (iFTx/)

63 46 Jeffries, still filibustering, proclaims that the passage of the bill means "a deportation machine will be unleashed on steroids."

If only...
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 03, 2025 01:16 PM (mlg/3)

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Here's the text of the Senate bill (it's a pdf).

Look at sections 100051 through 100057.

https://is.gd/kq41go

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 01:19 PM (GBKbO)

64 Riley Gains and JK Rowling have been doing amazing work on X and in the real world giving normies a voice and helping them sharpen their arguments against this evil wave of inhumanity. Gains has had massive success in the political realm as well.

Rowling recently celebrated as one of her biggest critics, Stephen Ireland, was sentenced to 24 years in prison for raping a 12 year old boy. Ireland was the co-founder of the Pride marches in Surrey, England. Ireland is a well known tranny activist.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 03, 2025 01:19 PM (lIio7)

65 25 This has been known for decades - that mentally ill people who choose to mutilate themselves are no happier, no less depressed, and no less likely to kill themselves after surgery than they were before surgery.

It has required an enormous perversion of the whole system of medical research and evaluation to allow this to go on for as long as it has.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 03, 2025 01:12 PM (xTIDn)

Thanks, American "Medical" Association!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 03, 2025 01:13 PM (ULPxl)

I would expect the suicide rate of surgically-mutilated trannies to be much higher, since they will eventually discover that they are nothing but a counterfeit, and shunned by decent people, and worse, there's no going back.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 03, 2025 01:19 PM (SMy0Z)

66 zombie facts

It doesn't matter what gender a zombie was.
And soon you won't be able to tell.

Posted by: DaveA at July 03, 2025 01:19 PM (FhXTo)

67 A deportation machine on steroids???

So, kinda like Killdozer, but in Spanish?

Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at July 03, 2025 01:19 PM (yghV0)

68 So soon after pride month??

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 03, 2025 01:19 PM (HTa/G)

69 49 But you're just an illiterate asshoe who watches movies.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 03, 2025 01:16 PM (ExV1e)

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And a glowie!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 01:19 PM (GBKbO)

70 The gays are not interesting people. All they are is gay. That’s all they talk about. They are very one dimensional.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 03, 2025 01:19 PM (6d9rj)

71 Ya know, the optics would be terrible, but it would also be greatly satisfying if they turned the firehoses on Jeffries.

Posted by: Cool off, Jeffries! at July 03, 2025 01:19 PM (TbWk/)

72 The ICE office in Portland has been under siege for weeks, with people screaming into bullhorns and using ear-splitting amplified sounds all night to harass the ICE officers. (There are apartment buildings nearby, but of course Portland has made no effort to enforce city noise ordinances.)

A couple of dozen people have been arrested, and it will shock you to find out that a substantial fraction of the arrestees are trannies. (The same was true during the riots in Portland in 2020.)

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 03, 2025 01:19 PM (xTIDn)

73 So....he gets it!
Posted by: Diogenes at July 03, 2025 01:15 PM (1bdKO)

I voted for exactly that. Every last illegal and overstayer and student like khalil

Posted by: night lifted at July 03, 2025 01:19 PM (FZn/N)

74


Is this why they wanst to block puberty in young males???

I think it's certainly plausible that they want less white males in the world. They've stated this over and over.

"Puberty is the process of physical changes through which a child's body matures into an adult body capable of sexual reproduction."

Posted by: REv Dr E Buzz at July 03, 2025 01:20 PM (FJcBr)

75 What is it about socialist left politicians and marathon speeches?

Are there no concise explanations in that world???

Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 03, 2025 01:20 PM (tKZgo)

76 And that "dead child" argument is what they told Elon. The boy acts demon possessed, so it doesn't look like transing helped.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 03, 2025 01:20 PM (AcTAo)

77 >>> 54
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There's a problem with counting "attempted" suicides. I have a family member with off and on mental health issues, and she has "attempted" suicide at least a dozen times (and threatened to do it 100 times, whenever she argues with someone else) Each attempt was carefully done so that it would fail or be interrupted in some way. I'm slow, but after the 9th or 10th time I figured out "hey this is all just you starring in your own personal drama, isn't it?"
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 03, 2025 01:17 PM (uWKK

People who are serious often try to act "normal" because they don't want to be stopped.

People who repeatedly *threaten* are self-centered attention whoring asshoes.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 03, 2025 01:20 PM (ULPxl)

78 "Update: Hakeem Jeffries, still filibustering"
He's trying to beat Kevin McCarthy's record of 8 hrs 33 minutes.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 03, 2025 01:21 PM (NpAcC)

79 A deportation machine would be cool. Like a Star Trek transporter, send 'em anywhere.
Energize!

Posted by: wth at July 03, 2025 01:21 PM (v0R5T)

80 I wonder how many parents had to take some time to think about it after the dead or transitard question.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 03, 2025 01:21 PM (6d9rj)

81 39 2 Now do climate change.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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That is coming due to Big Tech wanting their AI centers. The bonus is that we will probably be nuking it up rather than the lame, gay, stick a chick in it, 'renewable' energy.
Posted by: whig at July 03, 2025 01:15 PM (ctrM5)

I still think nat gas plants will be cheaper. But the big advantage to nuclear plants now (besides the fact that they work really well) is that what's needed for them to operate is all on site - you don't need wells, pipelines, and other distribution infrastructure. So it's much easier for a corp to have all of it under their control.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 03, 2025 01:22 PM (uWKK8)

82 "There are not two sides to this issue," she once said, according to a recent episode of The Protocol, a New York Times podcast.

Boasting about your unwillingness to listen to your opponents probably plays well in some crowds.


This is yet another piece of evidence that leftist thought cannot stand up to scrutiny. To preserve their ideology, they must silence every other voice.

Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at July 03, 2025 01:22 PM (rF2iL)

83
It's interesting that the UK 1) did the groundbreaking myth-busting study of the whole practice specifically in its own institutions and 2) reversed policy. There's still a faint heartbeat over there.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 03, 2025 01:22 PM (Rrsaq)

84 And a glowie!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 01:19 PM (GBKbO)


That's a new one. When did that happen?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 03, 2025 01:22 PM (ExV1e)

85 78 "Update: Hakeem Jeffries, still filibustering"
He's trying to beat Kevin McCarthy's record of 8 hrs 33 minutes.
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They're all standing so it must be getting close to the end.

Posted by: WisRich at July 03, 2025 01:22 PM (G0vdT)

86 Well, they're f*cked.

Biden says European leaders have been calling to ask his advice since he left office

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Big Mouth of the West at July 03, 2025 01:23 PM (L/fGl)

87 You don't get a live daughter

Posted by: ... at July 03, 2025 01:23 PM (VPwHp)

88 84 And a glowie!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 01:19 PM (GBKbO)

That's a new one. When did that happen?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 03, 2025 01:22 PM (ExV1e)

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BurtTC called me that when I kept insisting that the OBBB wasn't the worst thing on earth.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 01:23 PM (GBKbO)

89 Just to be clear.

If I attempted then I am self centered with personal drama?

Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 03, 2025 01:23 PM (tKZgo)

90
And that "dead child" argument is what they told Elon. The boy acts demon possessed, so it doesn't look like transing helped.
Posted by: Notsothoreau

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Elon was still an idiot to fall for it.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 03, 2025 01:23 PM (Rrsaq)

91 The whole focus on trying to divine the tea leaves from suicides makes no sense to me. It's so easy to figure out.

Just compare the number of teen suicides that occurred before trans "treatment" became available to those that occurred after treatments became available. If the treatments reduced suicides, there would be a noticeable drop in suicides. Is there?

I assume the answer is "there is not," which it why we never hear this easy method to test the lunatics' bullshit claims.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 01:23 PM (iFTx/)

92 A surprising number of books expressly criticize heterosexuality, the nuclear family, and the gender binary as obstacles to liberating humanity from capitalism, racism, colonialism, and other forms of oppression purportedly produced by white, male, Christian, Eurocentric cultural norms.

This argument would be more convincing if the same people claiming it didn't also say that it's a moral imperative to let the entire world in to live under said norms.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 03, 2025 01:23 PM (QZThv)

93 Don’t get your hopes up. It was probably the Muslims in the UK that wanted that study.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 03, 2025 01:23 PM (6d9rj)

94 Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 03, 2025 01:19 PM (6d9rj

I think it probably depends on the gay person. Scott Bessent spends a lot of time talking about economics and treasury issues, but he’s not a leftist.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 03, 2025 01:24 PM (2GCMq)

95 The ICE office in Portland has been under siege for weeks, with people screaming into bullhorns and using ear-splitting amplified sounds all night to harass the ICE officers. (There are apartment buildings nearby, but of course Portland has made no effort to enforce city noise ordinances.)

A couple of dozen people have been arrested, and it will shock you to find out that a substantial fraction of the arrestees are trannies. (The same was true during the riots in Portland in 2020.)
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 03, 2025 01:19 PM (xTIDn)

Pity none of the few remaining based Portlanders have cottoned on to lobbing flash-bangs into the mob.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 03, 2025 01:24 PM (SMy0Z)

96 "Update: Hakeem Jeffries, still filibustering"
He's trying to beat Kevin McCarthy's record of 8 hrs 33 minutes.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 03, 2025 01:21 PM (NpAcC)


It'll be on his tombstone.

Once spoke on the floor of the House for (insert final time here). No one cared.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 03, 2025 01:24 PM (ExV1e)

97 Here's the text of the Senate bill (it's a pdf).

Look at sections 100051 through 100057.

https://is.gd/kq41go
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 01:19 PM (GBKbO)

I only made to the first paragraph of 100053 before I nutted. Then I lost interest.

Posted by: Premature or efficient? You be the judge. at July 03, 2025 01:24 PM (TbWk/)

98

Come on!

Stay on the scene, like a deportation machine!

Posted by: James Brown at July 03, 2025 01:24 PM (63Dwl)

99 Once AI breaks the entertainment monopoly the Left has I predict an even greater societal swing to the Right.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 03, 2025 01:25 PM (Vh9CX)

100 You know else watched movies?

Posted by: eleven at July 03, 2025 01:25 PM (fV+MH)

101 It’s criminal what they did to children. I had to have testosterone shot into my butt. Could barely sit or sleep. Between the painful acne and emotional rollercoaster, I was a wreck. I was in my early forties. Must be hell on minors!

Posted by: Knowledge Economy Dipsh!t at July 03, 2025 01:25 PM (J4BK5)

102 The gays are not interesting people. All they are is gay. That’s all they talk about. They are very one dimensional.
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Now do vegans...

Posted by: Crusader at July 03, 2025 01:25 PM (TN0g+)

103 58 America turned my dog gay. Just this morning. My young daughter and her cousin poured glitter all through his fur, and now he looks like a Miami Beach rave dog.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 03, 2025 01:17 PM (BI5O2)

just try to keep him off your leg.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 03, 2025 01:25 PM (uWKK8)

104 Jeffries finishes and then Speaker Johnson rises to say "Everything he just said is bullsh*t."

Posted by: WisRich at July 03, 2025 01:25 PM (G0vdT)

105 Would you rather have a dead movie reviewer or a live glowie?

Posted by: ... at July 03, 2025 01:25 PM (VPwHp)

106 Zombie Facts? What difference does it make?

We're already all dead from Globull Warmering!!!!

Been dead for years!

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 03, 2025 01:25 PM (mP0Kj)

107 It's Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.

Posted by: Genesis Chapter One at July 03, 2025 01:25 PM (WeCH6)

108 BurtTC called me that when I kept insisting that the OBBB wasn't the worst thing on earth.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 01:23 PM (GBKbO)

To be fair, you have presented no evidence that you are not a glowie.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 03, 2025 01:26 PM (i24o9)

109 I've long felt that the Gay Stuff and the Trans Stuff were political psyops to demoralize (literally) the US citizenry.

Everything they're doing makes perfect sense when you understand that the WEF's Prime Directive is to reduce the global population, particularly the part of it that's Caucasian.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 03, 2025 01:26 PM (QZThv)

110 104 Jeffries finishes and then Speaker Johnson rises to say "Everything he just said is bullsh*t."
Posted by: WisRich at July 03, 2025 01:25 PM (G0vdT)

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I think a simple, Nelson Muntz, "HAHA!" would suffice.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 01:26 PM (GBKbO)

111 Posted by: Tom Servo at July 03, 2025 01:17 PM (uWKK

Ita really shitty tactic that people use to exert power over others. But it's usually a chick thing. Guys usually threaten violence against whoever is pissing them off.

Note that dudes usually succeed at killing themselves, and do it much more often.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 03, 2025 01:26 PM (BI5O2)

112 108
To be fair, you have presented no evidence that you are not a glowie.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 03, 2025 01:26 PM (i24o9)

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I own so many khakis. Including khaki shorts.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 01:26 PM (GBKbO)

113 Pity none of the few remaining based Portlanders have cottoned on to lobbing flash-bangs into the mob.
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Or even paint-filled water balloons. What the hell is wrong with societies where members won't defend what is theirs?

Posted by: Crusader at July 03, 2025 01:26 PM (TN0g+)

114 Hey, she stole my next book!

Posted by: Jake Tapper at July 03, 2025 01:26 PM (B9Prs)

115 102 The gays are not interesting people. All they are is gay. That’s all they talk about. They are very one dimensional.
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Now do vegans...
Posted by: Crusader at July 03, 2025 01:25 PM (TN0g+)

Damn, if it was a Gay Crossfit Vegan?

What over riding thing would they talk about?

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 03, 2025 01:27 PM (mP0Kj)

116 "Demisexual, Bisexual, Intersex, Asexual, Agender, Nonbinary, Genderfluid, Pangender, Polyamory, Polysexual, and Two-Spirit."

WTF do all those terms mean? Two-Spirit???

Posted by: Tuna at July 03, 2025 01:27 PM (lJ0H4)

117 Welp, Jeffries has the record.

Posted by: WisRich at July 03, 2025 01:27 PM (G0vdT)

118 Biden says European leaders have been calling to ask his advice since he left office
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Big Mouth of the West at July 03, 2025 01:23 PM (L/fGl)


If I were a European leader I'd deny that instantly. No way would I want anything thinking that I needed advice from a senile retard.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 03, 2025 01:27 PM (ExV1e)

119 83 It's interesting that the UK 1) did the groundbreaking myth-busting study of the whole practice specifically in its own institutions and 2) reversed policy. There's still a faint heartbeat over there.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

Everything is fiscal at the NHS. They probably determined transitioning was costing the system too much money for no benefit. Not a call made from a position of morality.

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at July 03, 2025 01:27 PM (ieflh)

120 Some of you might be interested to know that the Corman classic Battle Beyond the Stars is out on 4K.

It's super-woke, fake, and gay.

Oh wait -- no, it's not. It's got smoking babes showing boobs, monsters, robots, manly men, and babes showing boobs. Or at least I think it does. I haven't seen it since I was kid in the 80s.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 01:27 PM (iFTx/)

121
Had this freak made up some study, Alito would have immediately asked "where in the record is this?"
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade

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Glory be to the judiciary, which, for all its flaws, occasionally does the right thing and stops these national suicide attempts.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 03, 2025 01:27 PM (Rrsaq)

122 There's a problem with counting "attempted" suicides. I have a family member with off and on mental health issues, and she has "attempted" suicide at least a dozen times (and threatened to do it 100 times, whenever she argues with someone else) Each attempt was carefully done so that it would fail or be interrupted in some way. I'm slow, but after the 9th or 10th time I figured out "hey this is all just you starring in your own personal drama, isn't it?"
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 03, 2025 01:17 PM

Sounds like histrionic personality disorder, maybe borderline personality disorder. Or both. But not depression.

Posted by: People are...interesting. at July 03, 2025 01:27 PM (TbWk/)

123 Biden says European leaders have been calling to ask his advice since he left office
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Big Mouth of the West at July 03, 2025 01:23 PM (L/fGl)


Hahahahahahahaha! So many ways to views this statement, all of them funny.

Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at July 03, 2025 01:27 PM (rF2iL)

124 120 Some of you might be interested to know that the Corman classic Battle Beyond the Stars is out on 4K.

It's super-woke, fake, and gay.

Oh wait -- no, it's not. It's got smoking babes showing boobs, monsters, robots, manly men, and babes showing boobs. Or at least I think it does. I haven't seen it since I was kid in the 80s.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 01:27 PM (iFTx/)

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I have the nice Blu-ray Steelbook.

It's fun.

Seven Samurai but robots and aliens.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 01:28 PM (GBKbO)

125 So, has anyone heard about Joe Biden's cancer since they announced it? Is he in chemotherapy? This image of Biden is from 1 July, 2025. He still has his hair. Was the cancer claim a psyop?

http://tiny.cc/moko001

Posted by: bonhomme at July 03, 2025 01:28 PM (lIio7)

126 >>Two-Spirit???


Oh, that's Native American / First Nations bullshittery.

Because the Natives were so inclusive, you know...

Posted by: garrett at July 03, 2025 01:28 PM (T4A2M)

127 It's interesting that the UK 1) did the groundbreaking myth-busting study of the whole practice specifically in its own institutions and 2) reversed policy. There's still a faint heartbeat over there.

It's not as positive as you think. Trannies have a lifetime of expensive regular medical care. Think of it the way software's gone from purchase to subscription. That's great for hospitals and doctors here, but under socialized medicine it's a big no-no.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 03, 2025 01:28 PM (QZThv)

128 The gays are not interesting people. All they are is gay. That’s all they talk about. They are very one dimensional.

--

It is odd, isn't it? That to define oneself based on something so...minor, I suppose, is pretty unhealthy.

Who are you?

-I'm a mom.
-I'm a businessman
-I'm a truck driver
-I'm gay.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 03, 2025 01:28 PM (tKZgo)

129 BurtTC called me that when I kept insisting that the OBBB wasn't the worst thing on earth.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 01:23 PM (GBKbO)

lol that got really lame really fast.
calls for a Ron Burgundy "well that escalated quickly!" meme.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 03, 2025 01:28 PM (uWKK8)

130 I'm actually impressed that The House of David has not turned David and Jonathan into sodomites.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at July 03, 2025 01:28 PM (DjjUA)

131 WTF do all those terms mean? Two-Spirit???

Posted by: Tuna at July 03, 2025 01:27 PM (lJ0H4)

Self-diagnosed neurodivergent larper asshole.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 03, 2025 01:28 PM (i24o9)

132 >>Biden says European leaders have been calling to ask his advice since he left office


Sure, Jan.

Posted by: garrett at July 03, 2025 01:28 PM (T4A2M)

133 129 BurtTC called me that when I kept insisting that the OBBB wasn't the worst thing on earth.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 01:23 PM (GBKbO)

lol that got really lame really fast.
calls for a Ron Burgundy "well that escalated quickly!" meme.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 03, 2025 01:28 PM (uWKK

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And I had just admitted by being bought by Big Penguin.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 01:29 PM (GBKbO)

134 >>> 89 Just to be clear.

If I attempted then I am self centered with personal drama?

Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 03, 2025 01:23 PM (tKZgo)

Were you seriously depressed, or wanting attention? Because I'm betting it was the former (and pretty sure you've commented to that effect).

... and this might be OMG Sexiss! , but I suspect women are more likely to be the type to *say* they're going to do something without really meaning it because they're not so much depressed as some other form of upset.

I'm not a mind reader, and this could be an "I know pr0n when I see it" thing (especially if it's busty and lesbian) but, I think most people can tell the difference.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 03, 2025 01:29 PM (ULPxl)

135 WTF do all those terms mean? Two-Spirit???
Posted by: Tuna at July 03, 2025 01:27 PM (lJ0H4)


Why stop at two?

Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at July 03, 2025 01:29 PM (rF2iL)

136 Including khaki shorts.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 01:26 PM (GBKbO)
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But do they have cuffs?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 03, 2025 01:29 PM (XZ5S6)

137 I enjoy many resources of the local library, none of which require my physical presence at the large brick building on a half block of prime downtown real estate. The only time I enter the building and interact with the brightly haired staff is to renew my library card.

Posted by: Oglebay at July 03, 2025 01:29 PM (MMp6W)

138 > Biden says European leaders have been calling to ask his advice since he left office

I'm pretty sure I saw several videos from G7 where EVERYBODY was completely ignoring the dumb bastard. I doubt anyone is calling him, not even Jill.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 03, 2025 01:29 PM (lIio7)

139 It's not as positive as you think. Trannies have a lifetime of expensive regular medical care. Think of it the way software's gone from purchase to subscription. That's great for hospitals and doctors here, but under socialized medicine it's a big no-no.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 03, 2025 01:28 PM (QZThv)

Considering how the UK is going, with any luck it will soon be the fast track to Considerate Happy Fun Termination of Life Care.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 03, 2025 01:29 PM (uWKK8)

140 It is odd, isn't it? That to define oneself based on something so...minor, I suppose, is pretty unhealthy.


norm Macdonald had a great bit on this observation

Posted by: Black Orchid at July 03, 2025 01:30 PM (Pv3Rg)

141


Kids can go to libraries not to read and learn but to suck cock.

How bout that.

These freaks are way more bizarre and sick than any Catholic priest or wrestling coach.

Posted by: REv Dr E Buzz at July 03, 2025 01:30 PM (FJcBr)

142 neurodivergent larper?

Posted by: eleven at July 03, 2025 01:30 PM (fV+MH)

143 JD Vance says at least one GOP hold out is now a firm yes due to the rantings of his Magnificent Hakimness.

Who is John Galt ?

Posted by: Going deep. Out. at July 03, 2025 01:31 PM (FIXtj)

144
>>Marci Bowers, the former head of the World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH), the most prominent organization for gender-medicine providers, has likened skepticism of child gender medicine to Holocaust denial.

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Fact: Marci Bowers used to be Mark Thomas Bowers, so the horde does not need to refer to Marci as "she."

I don't know when Marci made the Holocaust denial remark -- before or after he admitted that kids who are transed at a particular Tanner stage (development stage) have later shown no capability of ever experiencing adult orgasm.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 03, 2025 01:31 PM (Rrsaq)

145 132 >>Biden says European leaders have been calling to ask his advice since he left office
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It's cute that Jill does a little roll playing with Joe.

Posted by: WisRich at July 03, 2025 01:31 PM (G0vdT)

146 Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 03, 2025 01:23 PM (tKZgo)

No. But you know there are people unfortunately who use it as a way to control and manipulate others - along with many other things no doubt - then there are the ones with clinical depression or equivalent who actually wanted to die.

Posted by: ... at July 03, 2025 01:31 PM (VPwHp)

147 Biden says European leaders have been calling to ask his advice since he left office

About ice cream flavors?

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at July 03, 2025 01:31 PM (DjjUA)

148 Biden says European leaders have been calling to ask his advice since he left office
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Big Mouth of the West

Sure Jan.

Posted by: Tuna at July 03, 2025 01:31 PM (lJ0H4)

149 Two-Spirit???

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Leftists love to disparage Christians for talking how there's no scientific evidence for the soul and then with a straight face say things like this.

Posted by: Jake Tapper at July 03, 2025 01:31 PM (B9Prs)

150 To be fair, you have presented no evidence that you are not a glowie.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 03, 2025 01:26 PM (i24o9)


Comrade Flounder Johnson is right.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 03, 2025 01:31 PM (ExV1e)

151 Considering how the UK is going, with any luck it will soon be the fast track to Considerate Happy Fun Termination of Life Care.
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The Muslims will run the UK before that comes to be.

Posted by: Crusader at July 03, 2025 01:31 PM (TN0g+)

152 Off sock

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 03, 2025 01:31 PM (B9Prs)

153 The trans cult has collapsed.

Detransitioners now outnumber transitioners.

Regret rate approaching 80%.

Previously successful silencing of anti-trans voices now no longer successful -- anti-trans narrative has hit the mainstream.

Parents coast to coast learning en masse that their kids are being brainwashed in public schools.

Horror stories now get MSM coverage.

England, Sweden, Netherlands and other countries already backtracking on trans treatment. America lagging behind the global trend against child-mutilation.

Within five years, it will be a forgotten mass hysteria.

Posted by: zombie at July 03, 2025 01:31 PM (pMi6S)

154 concepts as sex assigned at birth, intersex, transgender, agender, bigender, pangender, polygender, misgender, genderfluid, genderqueer, genderflux, neutrois,

I thought that was some kind of large rat we make fur coats out of.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 03, 2025 01:31 PM (kgE5c)

155 WTF do all those terms mean? Two-Spirit???

It's an attempt to legitimize the trans movement by tying it to a concept one Indian tribe has where men can be in touch with their feminine side. Sort of like Pete Townshend's "I know exactly what it's like to be a woman", but without the drugs.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 03, 2025 01:31 PM (QZThv)

156 >>It's cute that Jill does a little roll playing with Joe.


Haha - Like when my sister would call on Christmas Eve and ask me to call back, so I could pretend I was Santa and tell her kids to go to bed.

Posted by: garrett at July 03, 2025 01:32 PM (T4A2M)

157 All the gender nonsense has always been mental illness plus bad people exploiting mental illness for power and money.

Me Tarzan boy
You Jane girl

It’s that simple even I guess raised by gorillas understood it

We live in an age of the celebration of mental illness

An uncomfortable percentage of the population around us is nuts

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 03, 2025 01:32 PM (i5Vkf)

158 >Biden says European leaders have been calling to ask his advice since he left office


Sure, Jan.
Posted by: garrett at July 03, 2025 01:28 PM (T4A2M)

Actually I believe it

Posted by: ... at July 03, 2025 01:33 PM (VPwHp)

159 Transitioning does not reduce suicide (perhaps increases the odds), but it does seem to increase homicidal tendencies.

The Nashville school shooter was the last one (though she did not actually physically transition, iirc). There are others, and percentage wise compared to straights, the odds seem high. These are "disturbed" people, often victims of abuse/grooming.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 03, 2025 01:33 PM (vbXSk)

160 I have an 80 % regret rate for the 2000's

Posted by: eleven at July 03, 2025 01:33 PM (fV+MH)

161 >>Helen Lewis is a staff writer at The Atlantic.

Not for much longer.

Posted by: huerfano at July 03, 2025 01:33 PM (n2swS)

162 Given Atlantic's content for years now, this is a shocking shift from the narrative. That they even published this says something about the left maybe, just maybe learning something. Which makes things harder for us, if they actually repudiate this horror.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2025 01:33 PM (dfIr7)

163 neurodivergent larper?

Posted by: eleven at July 03, 2025 01:30 PM (fV+MH)

Neurodivergence = I am a special snowflake whose brain is different from everyone elses = you can't question my truth.

LARP = live action roleplay = they are playing at being a cat or some other ephemeral being who is attracted to whatever it is they claim and is not just incapable of self-controlling their basest human desires.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 03, 2025 01:33 PM (i24o9)

164 Youth gender medicine?

No, it is Youth gender mutilation.

And people that allow or force this, i.e. leftist parents, are monsters.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at July 03, 2025 01:33 PM (17s+e)

165 138 > Biden says European leaders have been calling to ask his advice since he left office

I'm pretty sure I saw several videos from G7 where EVERYBODY was completely ignoring the dumb bastard. I doubt anyone is calling him, not even Jill.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 03, 2025 01:29 PM (lIio7)

I'd love to see a split screen video of Biden sitting in a room, answering calls from "European leaders" and on the other half sit Jill and Hunter on the phone telling each other "Ok this time I'll be Macron!" "Ok I'll do Meloni next!" (both snicker)

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 03, 2025 01:33 PM (uWKK8)

166 GOPers missed a golden opportunity to clap wildly when Hakeem made that statement.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at July 03, 2025 01:33 PM (XMwZJ)

167 Posted by: zombie at July 03, 2025 01:31 PM (pMi6S)

The Left will throw their perverts, gays and trannies to the jihad wolves faster than you can say "What is a woman". This has been coming miles down the pike.

Posted by: ... at July 03, 2025 01:34 PM (VPwHp)

168 So, has anyone heard about Joe Biden's cancer since they announced it? Is he in chemotherapy? This image of Biden is from 1 July, 2025. He still has his hair. Was the cancer claim a psyop?

http://tiny.cc/moko001
Posted by: bonhomme at July 03, 2025 01:28 PM (lIio7)

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It was only oil cancer. Once he voted to shift everything to electric, he got better.

Posted by: Darth Randall at July 03, 2025 01:34 PM (f1kZG)

169 Is Hakeem Jeffries like 5 feet tall? He looks itty. I would like to see him compared to an actual adult male

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2025 01:34 PM (dfIr7)

170 Including khaki shorts.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 01:26 PM (GBKbO)

It's the crew-length dress socks with casual shoes that completely give it away.

Posted by: Glowie uniforms at July 03, 2025 01:34 PM (TbWk/)

171
Trannies have a lifetime of expensive regular medical care. Think of it the way software's gone from purchase to subscription. That's great for hospitals and doctors here, but under socialized medicine it's a big no-no.
Posted by: Ian S.

==============

I've seen British trannies sobbing that they're not going to get their meds -- although this might be a claim along the lines of USAID killing 14 million.

But you bring up a well-known issue, which is that transers are lifetime patients. You don't a year or whatever getting the surgeries and growing a beard (or losing your beard) and then go your merry way. It's yet another reason why we absolutely should NOT allow trannies in the military, and we shouldn't subsidize it with private insurance.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 03, 2025 01:34 PM (Rrsaq)

172 WTF do all those terms mean? Two-Spirit???

It's an attempt to legitimize the trans movement by tying it to a concept one Indian tribe has where men can be in touch with their feminine side. Sort of like Pete Townshend's "I know exactly what it's like to be a woman", but without the drugs.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 03, 2025 01:31 PM (QZThv)

Two-Spirit = split personality. Insane in the membrane.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 03, 2025 01:34 PM (SMy0Z)

173 "Demisexual, Bisexual, Intersex, Asexual, Agender, Nonbinary, Genderfluid, Pangender, Polyamory, Polysexual, and Two-Spirit."

WTF do all those terms mean? Two-Spirit???
Posted by: Tuna at July 03, 2025 01:27 PM (lJ0H4)
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Means they need a lot more deodorant

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 01:34 PM (iFTx/)

174 I have a confession. I'm not sure what neuro-divergent means.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at July 03, 2025 01:34 PM (DjjUA)

175 162 Given Atlantic's content for years now, this is a shocking shift from the narrative. That they even published this says something about the left maybe, just maybe learning something. Which makes things harder for us, if they actually repudiate this horror.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2025 01:33 PM (dfIr7)

You're right. I think that after the big SCOTUS loss even they realize they've got to back away from this one.
Too bad they got so many of their foot soldiers worked up about it. They won't be so easy to turn off.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 03, 2025 01:35 PM (uWKK8)

176 If Hakeem Jeffries has his record can Mike Johnson now tell him to shut up and sit down in a pleasant way so he doesn’t get accused of being a racist?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 03, 2025 01:35 PM (2GCMq)

177 "Neurodivergence = I am a special snowflake whose brain is different from everyone elses = you can't question my truth.

LARP = live action roleplay = they are playing at being a cat or some other ephemeral being who is attracted to whatever it is they claim and is not just incapable of self-controlling their basest human desires.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder"


I have an 80 % regret rate for the 2000's

Posted by: eleven at July 03, 2025 01:35 PM (fV+MH)

178 >>> 175 162 Given Atlantic's content for years now, this is a shocking shift from the narrative. That they even published this says something about the left maybe, just maybe learning something. Which makes things harder for us, if they actually repudiate this horror.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2025 01:33 PM (dfIr7)

You're right. I think that after the big SCOTUS loss even they realize they've got to back away from this one.
Too bad they got so many of their foot soldiers worked up about it. They won't be so easy to turn off.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 03, 2025 01:35 PM (uWKK

So, a lot like the woofloo and maaaaasks? HA HA!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 03, 2025 01:35 PM (ULPxl)

179 Actually I believe it

Same. The entire "post-war consensus" is being shredded by Trump, Vance, and Big Balls and the Euros are *terrified*. Their media is more shrill about Trump than MSNBC, so a lot of Europeans don't understand why we love Trump since it's proven science that he's literally Hitler and Putin conjoined by the dick.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 03, 2025 01:35 PM (QZThv)

180 So, has anyone heard about Joe Biden's cancer since they announced it? Is he in chemotherapy? This image of Biden is from 1 July, 2025. He still has his hair. Was the cancer claim a psyop?

http://tiny.cc/moko001
Posted by: bonhomme
.....

That's what I thought the first day I heard that lie.
Please leave poor old cancer ridden Joe alone, heathens!

Posted by: wth at July 03, 2025 01:35 PM (v0R5T)

181 >>I'm not sure what neuro-divergent means.


Psychotic / Split Personality.


It's mainly a term used by the Self-Diagnosed.

Posted by: garrett at July 03, 2025 01:35 PM (T4A2M)

182 Oh wait -- no, it's not. It's got smoking babes showing boobs, monsters, robots, manly men, and babes showing boobs. Or at least I think it does. I haven't seen it since I was kid in the 80s.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 01:27 PM (iFTx/)


Goes back and watches it. Finds out that one woman calculates something and gets 58008 as an answer and then turns the calculator upside down and laughs.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 03, 2025 01:36 PM (ExV1e)

183 The Nashville school shooter was the last one (though she did not actually physically transition, iirc). There are others, and percentage wise compared to straights, the odds seem high. These are "disturbed" people, often victims of abuse/grooming.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 03, 2025 01:33 PM (vbXSk)

There was a story about a "trans" girl (actually, guy) who had was convicted of having child porn including infant porn. These are all deeply disturbed individuals.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 03, 2025 01:36 PM (i24o9)

184 The word you're looking for is transexual.
Gender refers to possessive pronouns: his and hers.
Sex refers to male or female.

Posted by: Grammar nerd at July 03, 2025 01:36 PM (WeCH6)

185 The San Francisco Trans March last Saturday WAS NOT EVEN ABOUT TRANSSEXUALISM any more! Incredible. They've given up promoting it as a lifestyle, now just using "trans" as an identifier of a political demographic the leaders can manipulate.

But wait, you may ask -- if the Trans March wasn't about being trans, then what WAS it about?

Ready for this?: Palestine!

All marchers instructed to bring Palestinian flags and protest signs, and they dedicated the Trans March to "Gaza" and "Palestine" etc.

You know a moement is over when it is fully co-opted to support somebody's else's cause.

Posted by: zombie at July 03, 2025 01:37 PM (pMi6S)

186 It was Little Horse; the boy who wouldn't go on the raid against the Pawnee. He had become a "heemanee" for which there ain't no English word. And he was a good one, too. The Human Beings thought a lot of him.

Posted by: Little Big Man's Jack Crabb at July 03, 2025 01:37 PM (wVcYX)

187 My take before exiting to buy some fireworks so I can blow off my thumbs tomorrow for the amusement of the neighborhood kids...

In therapy I've learned that many times suicide is an escape. Escape from pain, etc. I can attest to this personally.

Attempts that aren't calculated to succeed are generally cries for help. In that view I guess one could say it's attention seeking but I'd argue that it isn't trivial thing. Perhaps done when a person has nowhere to go and doesn't think anyone is listening. Regardless, it's a bit complicated there.

Even threatening is often a flight or fight thing, seeking escape without a healthy way to express it.

I have my biases of course, so for some time now I've leaned toward taking it all seriously. Hence my reaction and question.

Thx

Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 03, 2025 01:37 PM (tKZgo)

188 Biden says European leaders have been calling to ask his advice since he left office

The only people calling Biden these days are the dudes in the Indian call center trying to get him to extend the warranty on his poop-scooter.

Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at July 03, 2025 01:37 PM (yghV0)

189 BBB Update: Hakeem Jeffries ...

----------------

Big Black Boob Update?

Posted by: ShainS -- Designate The Democrat Party A Domestic Terrorist Organization at July 03, 2025 01:37 PM (wKMfD)

190 The Atlantic published this?!?!

They want off the trans train.

But if they admit they aided and abetted the sexual mutilation and lifelong misery of thousands of children... well, then they might feel bad about themselves.

My money is on they will ignore this.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 03, 2025 01:37 PM (d8x+f)

191 I have a confession. I'm not sure what neuro-divergent means.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at July 03, 2025 01:34 PM (DjjUA)
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It's a made-up word that means "anyone who thinks they might be outside normal mental functioning." If you look up the "symptoms," it's literally everything. There's not a person in the world that hasn't experienced at least one of the symptoms. It's an industry looking for customers. Follow the money.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 01:37 PM (iFTx/)

192 I have a confession. I'm not sure what neuro-divergent means.

Mentally abnormal, usually used in reference to autism.

RFK Jr. says the CDC buried a study showing the hepatitis vaccine caused an 1100% increase in autism, by the way.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 03, 2025 01:37 PM (QZThv)

193 To be fair, you have presented no evidence that you are not a glowie.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 03, 2025 01:26 PM (i24o9)

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I own so many khakis. Including khaki shorts.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 01:26 PM (GBKbO)


That is just evindence of bad taste...

Posted by: runner at July 03, 2025 01:38 PM (g47mK)

194 >>> 153
==
Within five years, it will be a forgotten mass hysteria.
Posted by: zombie at July 03, 2025 01:31 PM (pMi6S)

I hope not - just like the woofloo scam, these asshoes need to be held accountable.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 03, 2025 01:38 PM (ULPxl)

195 Jeffries wrapping up. He's going to "Press On"

Posted by: WisRich at July 03, 2025 01:38 PM (G0vdT)

196 Is Jeffries still ranting ?

Posted by: It's me donna at July 03, 2025 01:38 PM (VE6XX)

197
Within five years, it will be a forgotten mass hysteria.
Posted by: zombie

================

It will be a *buried* mass hysteria. MSM will claim lefties never said any such thing. Yes, there was some fringe group that Democrats never truly embraced -- except to the extent that they were misled -- but this notion that lefties caused tens of thousands of mentally ill people to mutilate their bodies is a Republican scare.

It'll eventually happen with climate change and DEI, too. Well, I have another notion regarding DEI: lefties will eventually claim that it was a trap deliberately laid by the right to stultify Black prosperity.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 03, 2025 01:38 PM (Rrsaq)

198 A deportation machine on steroids?

Your terms are acceptable!!!

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 03, 2025 01:38 PM (vm8sq)

199 Big Black Boob Update?
Posted by: ShainS -- Designate The Democrat Party A Domestic Terrorist Organization at July 03, 2025 01:37 PM (wKMfD)

*Ellie the Empress has entered the chat*

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 03, 2025 01:39 PM (d8x+f)

200 Because of course. No wipipo in view around Hakeem Jeffries in the tight shot as he grandstands against BBB.

Posted by: Gref at July 03, 2025 01:39 PM (aBgBM)

201 Are there any stats on the number of trans-people who have elected to have surgery? Basically is that pool growing, shrinking or staying stagnant?

I'm wondering if the "pool" of people who go all in and transition is growing or shrinking. Might point to a self-extermination event.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 03, 2025 01:39 PM (Q4IgG)

202 I'm genuinely curious about something. These people lie to the public all day long. What would the penalty have been if she'd said to Alito, "Our own studies yield an abundance of evidence that gender transition prevents suicide"?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia


Lying? In law? My straps and garters!!!!!

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 03, 2025 01:39 PM (mlg/3)

203 Every time Democrats rant support for Trump rises.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at July 03, 2025 01:39 PM (DjjUA)

204 Within five years, it will be a forgotten mass hysteria.
Posted by: zombie at July 03, 2025 01:31 PM (pMi6S)


Only the maimed will remember.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 03, 2025 01:39 PM (ExV1e)

205 The Atlantic published this?!?!

They want off the trans train.


The order has gone out to disengage from trans - it's too expensive for socialized medicine, and it pisses off too many voters in the US. The first sign was the NYT running Andrew Sullivan's piece complaining that trannies should not be grouped with gays and lesbians.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 03, 2025 01:39 PM (QZThv)

206 Two spirit is a Native American thing. All the various tribes across the continent of North America are exactly the same in their beliefs according to people who never met a Navajo or Jicarilla Apache or Laguna or Comanche.

Posted by: huerfano at July 03, 2025 01:39 PM (n2swS)

207 They've assembled the entire House Dumbitch Caucas.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 03, 2025 01:39 PM (Iv8wu)

208 >>Within five years, it will be a forgotten mass hysteria.


I still see the Covid Maskers on the regular.

Posted by: garrett at July 03, 2025 01:39 PM (T4A2M)

209 It's an industry looking for customers. Follow the money.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 01:37 PM (iFTx/)

See also, Autism as a Spectrum.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 03, 2025 01:40 PM (i24o9)

210 Euro leaders are more retarded and useless than Biden. Change my mind.

Posted by: ... at July 03, 2025 01:40 PM (VPwHp)

211 More like, Hakeen Jokeries~!

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 03, 2025 01:40 PM (mlg/3)

212 if you were a dissatisfied IRGC officer, fed up with the regime, would would you do ?? contact MOSSAD, of course ! "Mossad' X account says hundreds of IRGC members fed up with regime have reached out for help
"Hundreds of Revolutionary Guards soldiers and officers, fed up with the regime, are reaching out to us. We promise to get in touch with you - please be patient," the account wrote."




Posted by: runner at July 03, 2025 01:40 PM (g47mK)

213 174 I have a confession. I'm not sure what neuro-divergent means.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA


That means that you yourself are also neuro-divergent.

Posted by: zombie at July 03, 2025 01:40 PM (pMi6S)

214 Machines don't need steroids.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 03, 2025 01:40 PM (Iv8wu)

215 210 Euro leaders are more retarded and useless than Biden. Change my mind.
Posted by: ... at July 03, 2025 01:40 PM (VPwHp)

Just more "conscious."

Posted by: It's me donna at July 03, 2025 01:40 PM (VE6XX)

216 174 I have a confession. I'm not sure what neuro-divergent means.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at July 03, 2025 01:34 PM (DjjUA)

Ehhhhh...it's become something of a catchall for TikTok attention-seekers to claim autism/Asperger's, ADHD, OCD, and other disorders for clout and affirmation. It's also become a get out of jail free card for these same people for being douches.

Sadly, like the whole "triggered" thing, it takes the language of actual mental issues which can in some cases be rather debilitating, waters it down, cheapens it, turns it into social currency, and gives a bad name to people who actually do have problems with these things. So the people who actually do have these conditions get trivialized because dipshit pretenders are out there being asshole fraudsters.

Posted by: Social media delenda est at July 03, 2025 01:40 PM (TbWk/)

217 It's yet another reason why we absolutely should NOT allow trannies in the military, and we shouldn't subsidize it with private insurance.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 03, 2025 01:34 PM (Rrsaq)

You mean besides the fact that they are batshit crazy, of course.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 03, 2025 01:40 PM (1Gsou)

218 "Would you rather have a dead son or a live daughter?", they ask a father.

The only correct answer for a father to give is "Dead Son, and I'll kill that faggot motherfucker myself if he even THINKS about it."

Posted by: XTC at July 03, 2025 01:40 PM (6Uni8)

219 Because of course. No wipipo in view around Hakeem Jeffries in the tight shot as he grandstands against BBB.

Earlier this morning there was a white female Dem Congressman visibly sound asleep right behind Jeffries. After Twitter started mocking it an aide ran in and woke her up and dragged her away.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 03, 2025 01:40 PM (QZThv)

220 Biden says European leaders have been calling to ask his advice since he left office

The only people calling Biden these days are the dudes in the Indian call center trying to get him to extend the warranty on his poop-scooter.

Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at July 03, 2025 01:37 PM (yghV0)

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"Mr. President, do you wipe with your left or your right hand?"

Posted by: ShainS -- Designate The Democrat Party A Domestic Terrorist Organization at July 03, 2025 01:40 PM (wKMfD)

221 Musk lost a son to this garbage.

Posted by: He calls himself Vivian now at July 03, 2025 01:41 PM (WeCH6)

222 Hakeem finally finished!

Posted by: redridinghood at July 03, 2025 01:41 PM (NpAcC)

223 As Eddie Izzard would say Transition or Death?

Posted by: teh Wind at July 03, 2025 01:41 PM (l+V04)

224 >>> Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 03, 2025 01:37 PM (tKZgo)

But what you're talking about is being depressed and a 'cry for help' isn't the same as 'pay attention to me an give me what I want or I'll hold my breath'. My 2 cents.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 03, 2025 01:41 PM (ULPxl)

225 AZ Intel @AZ_Intel_ 13m
Michael Madsen, 'Reservoir Dogs' and 'Kill Bill: Vol. 2' actor, has died. He was 67. - NBC/TMZ

Posted by: andycanuck at July 03, 2025 01:42 PM (2yoRf)

226 222 Hakeem finally finished!
Posted by: redridinghood at July 03, 2025 01:41 PM (NpAcC)

In more ways than one....

Posted by: It's me donna at July 03, 2025 01:42 PM (VE6XX)

227 Ha, Rep Jason Smith: That was 8 1/2 hours of hogwash.

Posted by: WisRich at July 03, 2025 01:42 PM (G0vdT)

228 I'm surprised that Ace hasn't posted on this (or did he?). The schadenfreude is delicious. This guy was a harsh critic of JK Rowling and her believe that women can't have dicks. JK has been dunking on him fierce. This pervert and his perverted roommate double-teamed the poor kid and made kiddie porn. They should both have their dicks chopped off with a rusty spoon.

"Stephen Ireland, 41, who co-founded Pride in Surrey in 2018, raped the child at the flat he shared with his then-partner and co-defendant David Sutton, 27, in Addlestone on 19 April 2024 after messaging on Grindr."

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2kkrxdpndo

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 01:42 PM (iFTx/)

229 Old and busted: The Emperor has no clothes.
New and trendy: Why are you apparel shaming the Emperor, hater?

Posted by: Zek at July 03, 2025 01:42 PM (5FPX4)

230 190 The Atlantic published this?!?!

They want off the trans train.

But if they admit they aided and abetted the sexual mutilation and lifelong misery of thousands of children... well, then they might feel bad about themselves.

My money is on they will ignore this.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 03, 2025 01:37 PM (d8x+f)


The 2024 election showed the Democrats the errors of their trans push. The more the Democrats try to ram trans BS down the throats of everyone, the more black and Hispanic voters they lose.

Posted by: Gref at July 03, 2025 01:43 PM (aBgBM)

231 It wasn't a filibuster only a floor speech. Strom Thurmond remains the Champion.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 03, 2025 01:43 PM (Iv8wu)

232 Although wokeness is in retreat in some quarters -- corporations are scaling back DEI programs and 24 states have moved to block medicalized sex changes for minors -- librarians have emerged as the unlikely shock troops of the queer resistance.

Wokeness is not in "retreat", considering it already has gotten most of its policies in place. "Gender identity" is a federally protected class of people. All corporate sexual harassment training includes this. Someone "identifies" as another sex, employees must respect that. Someone prefers certain "pronouns", employees must refer to the employee by those preferred "pronouns". Someone wants to use a certain bathroom, employees must accommodate that.

It's not the queers who are the resistance. It is all non-queers who are fighting to resist all the queers and their promoters who are in positions of power and influence thanks to the Long March Through the Institutions.

Until/unless "gender identity" is removed as a protected class and male/female are legally recognized as the only two sexes, this insanity will continue.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 03, 2025 01:43 PM (P5BPp)

233 Hakeem finally finished!

All over Pelosi's face? Gross.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 03, 2025 01:43 PM (QZThv)

234 >>They should both have their dicks chopped off with a rusty spoon.


Pretty sure you need a Loicense for a Rusty Spoon, over there.

Posted by: garrett at July 03, 2025 01:44 PM (T4A2M)

235 So, a lot like the woofloo and maaaaasks? HA HA!

I think a lot like that. THey will just stop talking about it, pretend they never were really for it and we all need to drop it, GIVE US AMNESTY! But the True Believers will still be out there.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2025 01:44 PM (dfIr7)

236 The deportation machine needs more bath salts and PCP.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 03, 2025 01:45 PM (gKWVE)

237 t's an industry looking for customers. Follow the money.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 01:37 PM (iFTx/)

See also, Autism as a Spectrum.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 03, 2025 01:40 PM (i24o9)
______

Yup. The "neuro-divergent" racket is deeply tied up with Big Autism.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 01:45 PM (iFTx/)

238 "Stephen Ireland, 41, who co-founded Pride in Surrey in 2018, raped the child at the flat he shared with his then-partner and co-defendant David Sutton, 27, in Addlestone on 19 April 2024 after messaging on Grindr."

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2kkrxdpndo
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 01:42 PM (iFTx/)

Interesting how this keeps happening. It's like there's something deeply bent about these people or something.

Posted by: My heart aches for the poor kid though at July 03, 2025 01:45 PM (TbWk/)

239 >>> 232
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Until/unless "gender identity" is removed as a protected class and male/female are legally recognized as the only two sexes, this insanity will continue.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 03, 2025 01:43 PM (P5BPp)

Clyde Shelton Johnson is right!

I would be surprised if this is not somewhere on OrangeManBad's list, and RFK Jr has been pushing back on some of the tranny BS at HHS.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 03, 2025 01:45 PM (ULPxl)

240 238 "Stephen Ireland, 41, who co-founded Pride in Surrey in 2018, raped the child at the flat he shared with his then-partner and co-defendant David Sutton, 27, in Addlestone on 19 April 2024 after messaging on Grindr."

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2kkrxdpndo
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 01:42 PM (iFTx/)

Interesting how this keeps happening. It's like there's something deeply bent about these people or something.
Posted by: My heart aches for the poor kid though at July 03, 2025 01:45 PM (TbWk/)

======

"No, it's society that's the problem."
-Principle Skinner

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 01:46 PM (GBKbO)

241 But what you're talking about is being depressed and a 'cry for help' isn't the same as 'pay attention to me an give me what I want or I'll hold my breath'. My 2 cents.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 03, 2025 01:41 PM (ULPxl)

Admittedly I don't have the clearest or most objective view of it all.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 03, 2025 01:46 PM (kxQW1)

242 >>"Would you rather have a dead son or a live daughter?", they ask a father.

The Democrats would be speechless if they were somehow banned from declaring everything Republicans do will immediately kill uncountable persons in the USA and/or around the world.

Posted by: Gref at July 03, 2025 01:46 PM (aBgBM)

243 Neuro-divergent is for those who live their lives off center bubble, by nature or nurture.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 03, 2025 01:46 PM (wVcYX)

244 It's an industry looking for customers. Follow the money.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 01:37 PM (iFTx/)

"Normal" is a setting on a washing machine.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 03, 2025 01:47 PM (1Gsou)

245
You mean besides the fact that they are batshit crazy, of course.
Posted by: tcn in AK

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Ha, that primarily!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 03, 2025 01:47 PM (Rrsaq)

246 >>> 244
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"Normal" is a setting on a washing machine.
Posted by: tcn in AK at July 03, 2025 01:47 PM (1Gsou)

Is it an Energy Saver washing machine???

Posted by: leftists at July 03, 2025 01:47 PM (ULPxl)

247 Were there large numbers of confused boys committing suicide prior to tranny mania?

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at July 03, 2025 01:48 PM (DjjUA)

248 242 >>"Would you rather have a dead son or a live daughter?", they ask a father.

The Democrats would be speechless if they were somehow banned from declaring everything Republicans do will immediately kill uncountable persons in the USA and/or around the world.

Posted by: Gref at July 03, 2025 01:46 PM (aBgBM)

The GOP might be a lot less disappointing if they actually WERE the badass killers that the Democrats portray them as.

Posted by: XTC at July 03, 2025 01:48 PM (6Uni8)

249 > I'm not sure what neuro-divergent means.

There's a school of thought that says neurological differences we see in autism, ADHD, dyslexia, etc are variations in how people's brains work, as opposed to a pathology (diseased or defective). The term "neurodivergent" is from that school of thought.

But of course one obvious critique with this framing is they've simply slapped different names on a binary of normal vs abnormal.

The term is also very broad and not rigorously defined. There really are some diseases and impairments that a "neurodivergent" label might cause one to not seek medical help for their issues.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 03, 2025 01:48 PM (lIio7)

250
Admittedly I don't have the clearest or most objective view of it all.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 03, 2025 01:46 PM (kxQW1)

Maybe not - when you're in the middle of it, your view is distorted. But also the people on the outside looking in typically don't understand what's actually going on either. So don't let anybody shit on you for being in the place you were in.

Posted by: Smug superiority doesn't help distressed people at July 03, 2025 01:48 PM (TbWk/)

251 omg, speaker johnson, vote, don't vote, no one will care tomorrow what longwinded crap you and jefferies spew.
just get the fricken bill voted on and passed.

Posted by: old chick at July 03, 2025 01:48 PM (F3Dlr)

252 >>> 247 Were there large numbers of confused boys committing suicide prior to tranny mania?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at July 03, 2025 01:48 PM (DjjUA)

Transphobe!

REEEEE!!!

Posted by: leftists at July 03, 2025 01:48 PM (ULPxl)

253 Tony at LC signs carries on his hilarious, one-man battle against Woke.

https://tinyurl.com/yv335euy

Posted by: Paco at July 03, 2025 01:48 PM (mADJX)

254 Pritzker is gender confused because he hasn't seen his pecker for decades.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 03, 2025 01:49 PM (wBaIH)

255 >>"Would you rather have a dead son or a live daughter?", they ask a father.


What an incredibly stupid question.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 03, 2025 01:49 PM (1bdKO)

256 The GOP might be a lot less disappointing if they actually WERE the badass killers that the Democrats portray them as.

frame it and hang it on the wall, this is truth

Posted by: DanMan at July 03, 2025 01:50 PM (8uzBS)

257 Putin and Trump had a phone call today. On a range of topics. Putin wishes DJT a happy Independence Day! Also, noted Russian contribution to the American Revolution. Catherine the Great refused to send Russian troops to America in spite of UK pleas and diplomatic efforts. So there you go.

Posted by: runner at July 03, 2025 01:50 PM (g47mK)

258 249 The term is also very broad and not rigorously defined. There really are some diseases and impairments that a "neurodivergent" label might cause one to not seek medical help for their issues.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 03, 2025 01:48 PM (lIio7)

Nor should a father EVER want that label for the kid.

It'll keep the kid from being able to get a good job.

Posted by: XTC at July 03, 2025 01:50 PM (6Uni8)

259 Satan seems to hate men.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at July 03, 2025 01:50 PM (DjjUA)

260 "Stephen Ireland, 41, who co-founded Pride in Surrey in 2018, raped the child at the flat he shared with his then-partner and co-defendant David Sutton, 27, in Addlestone on 19 April 2024 after messaging on Grindr."

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2kkrxdpndo
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 01:42 PM (iFTx/)

Interesting how this keeps happening. It's like there's something deeply bent about these people or something.
Posted by: My heart aches for the poor kid though at July 03, 2025 01:45 PM (TbWk/)

======

"No, it's society that's the problem."
-Principle Skinner
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 01:46 PM (GBKbO)
_______

These perverts are obviously fucked in the head. But I also think they feel they can get away with anything -- because most of them have, for the past 20 years. There are perverted straight guys too. But I think any adult male who is attracted to a 12-year-old girl would think twice about acting on that perversion. He would know that, if he gets caught, he will be crucified.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 01:50 PM (iFTx/)

261 "Normal" is a setting on a washing machine.
Posted by: tcn in AK at July 03, 2025 01:47 PM (1Gsou)

*checks* Yes it is. It's on my dryer, too!

My laundry can be clean and normal!!!

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 03, 2025 01:51 PM (wVcYX)

262
Were there large numbers of confused boys committing suicide prior to tranny mania?
Posted by: Northernlurker

==============

ikr? Where in human records are all the wannabe transers before medical science made it possible* declaring their were born in the wrong body and killing themselves over it?

*although it's actually not possible

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 03, 2025 01:51 PM (Rrsaq)

263 So are they gonna vote on this bill or not ?

Posted by: It's me donna at July 03, 2025 01:51 PM (VE6XX)

264 >>"Would you rather have a dead son or a live daughter?", they ask a father.

What an incredibly stupid question.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 03, 2025 01:49 PM (1bdKO)

Shockingly misses the false dichotomy.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 03, 2025 01:51 PM (i24o9)

265 Has Hakeem the magnificent, the most merciful, the Caliph of DC and true defender of the faithful, allowed the House to vote ?

Posted by: Going deep. Out. at July 03, 2025 01:51 PM (FUvyF)

266 Now that Trump made Ukraine a Euro problem, they are keen to finish the whole thing tout de suite.

Posted by: runner at July 03, 2025 01:51 PM (g47mK)

267
Biden says European leaders have been calling to ask his advice since he left office

He's talked to Churchill, Stalin and de Gaulle.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 03, 2025 01:51 PM (63Dwl)

268 Maybe not - when you're in the middle of it, your view is distorted. But also the people on the outside looking in typically don't understand what's actually going on either. So don't let anybody shit on you for being in the place you were in.
Posted by: Smug superiority doesn't help distressed people at July 03, 2025 01:48 PM (TbWk/)

Thanks. I don't think anyone here is shitting on me. Hell, everyone has been supportive. But this isn't about me either. I'm very concerned about a machine that makes threats to the world about kids killing themselves if they don't transition, then turning around and telling kids to kill themselves if they don't...

Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 03, 2025 01:52 PM (kxQW1)

269 I'm not sure what neuro-divergent means.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at July 03, 2025 01:34 PM (DjjUA)


It means that you grew up in an Abnegation family but chose Dauntless when you reached adulthood. You may end up overthrowing the corrupt rule of the Erudite caste.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 03, 2025 01:52 PM (ExV1e)

270 264 Shockingly misses the false dichotomy.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 03, 2025 01:51 PM (i24o9)

Again, the father should answer that he'll kill the son himself if he tries to Troon Out.

Posted by: XTC at July 03, 2025 01:52 PM (6Uni8)

271 England, Sweden, Netherlands and other countries already backtracking on trans treatment. America lagging behind the global trend against child-mutilation.

Within five years, it will be a forgotten mass hysteria.
Posted by: zombie at July 03, 2025 01:31 PM



In ten, everyone will have opposed it. Like the French Resistance.

Posted by: toby928 at July 03, 2025 01:52 PM (jc0TO)

272 I think the trannies will love playing Muslim: they get to wear a dress, rape kids, beat up women and kill anyone not themselves.

Posted by: Accomack at July 03, 2025 01:52 PM (4qMiv)

273 Biden says European leaders have been calling to ask his advice since he left office

He's talked to Churchill, Stalin and de Gaulle.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 03, 2025 01:51 PM (63Dwl)
_____

He's hoping for a call from Joan of Arc

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 01:52 PM (iFTx/)

274 And you'd be right. AS Mike Benz told Tucker " USAID funds these LGTBQ groups in order to destabilize their societies"

Posted by: night lifted at July 03, 2025 01:18 PM

Just as China has been doing for decades funding groups to destabilize the West. As well as creating social media apps like TikTok to destabilize kids and youth in the West.

And yet TikTok has yet to be banned as was talked about years ago.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 03, 2025 01:53 PM (P5BPp)

275 273 Biden says European leaders have been calling to ask his advice since he left office

Why do I doubt that....

Posted by: It's me donna at July 03, 2025 01:53 PM (VE6XX)

276 273 Biden says European leaders have been calling to ask his advice since he left office

He's talked to Churchill, Stalin and de Gaulle.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 03, 2025 01:51 PM (63Dwl)
_____

He's hoping for a call from Joan of Arc
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 01:52 PM (iFTx/)

=======

It's just Hunter calling him from burner phones.

The goal is to get Joe back into politics to revive Hunter's revenue stream.

It's clear as day, sheeple.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 01:53 PM (GBKbO)

277
"Would you rather have a dead son or a live daughter?", they ask a father.


What an incredibly stupid question.
Posted by: Diogenes

===============

It's why I brook those consenting parents no quarter. One well-known detransitioner, Chloe Cole, says she understands her parents' dilemma when they consented to her unnecessary double mastectomy at the age of 15. My judgment of those parents is... harsher.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 03, 2025 01:53 PM (Rrsaq)

278 "Would you rather have a dead son or a live daughter?", they ask a father.

---

Let's go ahead and ban divorce while we're at it. Since that's statistically one of the main drivers of male suicide.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 03, 2025 01:53 PM (B9Prs)

279 Biden told Charles Martel to let the Muslim invasion continue.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at July 03, 2025 01:54 PM (DjjUA)

280 "Mr. Biden, are those European Leaders with you in the room right now ?"

Posted by: runner at July 03, 2025 01:54 PM (g47mK)

281 So are they gonna vote on this bill or not ?
Posted by: It's me donna at July 03, 2025 01:51 PM (VE6XX)

Door One: Fish

Door Two: Cut Bait

There is no Door Three

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 03, 2025 01:54 PM (wVcYX)

282 Georgia Meloni is the only European worth anything.

Posted by: eleven at July 03, 2025 01:54 PM (fV+MH)

283 >>> 269 I'm not sure what neuro-divergent means.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at July 03, 2025 01:34 PM (DjjUA)

It means that you grew up in an Abnegation family but chose Dauntless when you reached adulthood. You may end up overthrowing the corrupt rule of the Erudite caste.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 03, 2025 01:52 PM (ExV1e)

Well *THAT* is an obscure nerd reference.

.... am I the only one who thought the first movie looked like its budget was about 20 bucks (I was watching cable teewee in a hotel, shut up)?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 03, 2025 01:55 PM (ULPxl)

284 I'm very concerned about a machine that makes threats to the world about kids killing themselves if they don't transition, then turning around and telling kids to kill themselves if they don't...
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 03, 2025 01:52 PM (kxQW1)

As am I. It's a disgusting and obvious emotional manipulation being used by a certain cadre of people for money, status, and recognition. It's beyond vile as it wraps destruction and death in a veneer of "caring."

Posted by: Fuck those guys in particular at July 03, 2025 01:55 PM (TbWk/)

285 282 Georgia Meloni is the only European worth anything.
Posted by: eleven at July 03, 2025 01:54 PM (fV+MH)

And Orban

Posted by: It's me donna at July 03, 2025 01:55 PM (VE6XX)

286 Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 03, 2025 01:46 PM (kxQW1)

It's not usually just the one thing. The attention seekers will have a pattern of doing it with *everything*. It's highly insulting to people who actually carry that weight but attention seekers don't care.

Posted by: ... at July 03, 2025 01:55 PM (VPwHp)

287 175 162 Given Atlantic's content for years now, this is a shocking shift from the narrative. That they even published this says something about the left maybe, just maybe learning something. Which makes things harder for us, if they actually repudiate this horror.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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Atlantic says what Mrs Steve Jobs wants.

Posted by: whig at July 03, 2025 01:55 PM (ctrM5)

288 "How the left ended up disbelieving the science"

It's good that a writer for The Atlantic is (finally) admitting to this, so now do abortion and what biology has to say regarding when life begins. And after this, what imprinting has to say about what the effects of trans reading hours for minors have on young developing minds.

Those two would be a good way to continue this series for The Atlantic to do, but I won't be holding my breath waiting for them to publish anything on either of them soon.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at July 03, 2025 01:55 PM (XwYdj)

289 It's an industry looking for customers. Follow the money.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 01:37 PM (iFTx/)

"Normal" is a setting on a washing machine.
Posted by: tcn in AK at July 03, 2025 01:47 PM (1Gsou)
______

Right. Everyone experiences a range of emotions and feelings, some of which are good and some aren't. I have a great life. I'm mostly happy and excited to be alive and hopeful for the future. But I also have episodes of anger, frustration, fuck-it-all-ness, and dysfunction. Is there anyone in the world who doesn't?

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 01:55 PM (iFTx/)

290 Ironically, the "depressed boy who kills himself because they won't let him become a girl" is becoming more of a real man than ever when he does so.

He took a man's life by his own hand. The most masculine thing a man can possibly do.

Posted by: XTC at July 03, 2025 01:55 PM (6Uni8)

291 Oh and before I go inside to get munitions...

Helena, I wasn't sure how to read things, but I wasn't reading you as objectionable or argumentative. I hope I didn't come across negatively.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 03, 2025 01:56 PM (kxQW1)

292 Is that the Speaker? He's the worst public speaker I have ever seen.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 03, 2025 01:56 PM (Iv8wu)

293 Neuro-divergent is for those who live their lives off center bubble, by nature or nurture.
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 03, 2025 01:46 PM


Unacceptable. Weasel Doctrine frowns on wobbly shit.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 03, 2025 01:56 PM (kgE5c)

294 Biden says European leaders have been calling to ask his advice since he left office

He's talked to Churchill, Stalin and de Gaulle.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 03, 2025 01:51 PM (63Dwl)

Napoleon is holding on Line 2.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 03, 2025 01:56 PM (wVcYX)

295 >>> 270 264 Shockingly misses the false dichotomy.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 03, 2025 01:51 PM (i24o9)

Again, the father should answer that he'll kill the son himself if he tries to Troon Out.
Posted by: XTC at July 03, 2025 01:52 PM (6Uni

No, just ground him for a month. Now, the "doctor" or any other so-called adult pushing the idea...

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 03, 2025 01:56 PM (ULPxl)

296 Georgia Meloni is the only European worth anything.
Posted by: eleven at July 03, 2025 01:54

I will forever love her for treating Justin Trudeau with obvious contempt.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at July 03, 2025 01:56 PM (DjjUA)

297 It's not usually just the one thing. The attention seekers will have a pattern of doing it with *everything*. It's highly insulting to people who actually carry that weight but attention seekers don't care.
Posted by: ... at July 03, 2025 01:55 PM (VPwHp)

Agreed. It trivializes something that is very serious.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 03, 2025 01:57 PM (kxQW1)

298 >>But I also have episodes of anger, frustration, fuck-it-all-ness, and dysfunction. Is there anyone in the world who doesn't?


Ace.

He's ALL Yub and no Nub.

Posted by: garrett at July 03, 2025 01:57 PM (T4A2M)

299 Maybe Biden will run again.

Posted by: ... at July 03, 2025 01:57 PM (VPwHp)

300 No, just ground him for a month. Now, the "doctor" or any other so-called adult pushing the idea...

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 03, 2025 01:56 PM (ULPxl)

Groomers/choppers get the noose.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 03, 2025 01:58 PM (i24o9)

301

""Stephen Ireland, 41, who co-founded Pride in Surrey in 2018, raped the child at the flat he shared with his then-partner and co-defendant David Sutton, 27, in Addlestone on 19 April 2024 after messaging on Grindr.""

Pretty sure this is legal in the UK.

Posted by: REv Dr E Buzz at July 03, 2025 01:58 PM (d1nzH)

302 298 >>But I also have episodes of anger, frustration, fuck-it-all-ness, and dysfunction. Is there anyone in the world who doesn't?


Ace.

He's ALL Yub and no Nub.
Posted by: garrett at July 03, 2025 01:57 PM (T4A2M)

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Empire, beware.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 01:58 PM (GBKbO)

303 292 Is that the Speaker? He's the worst public speaker I have ever seen.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 03, 2025 01:56 PM (Iv8wu)

I imagine he's exhausted

Posted by: It's me donna at July 03, 2025 01:58 PM (VE6XX)

304 Let's go ahead and ban divorce while we're at it. Since that's statistically one of the main drivers of male suicide.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 03, 2025 01:53 PM (B9Prs)

Nobody gives a fuck about men. Which interestingly enough, a couple of trans "women" found out once they started living as men. Nobody gave a fuck about them anymore. Nobody paid them any attention. It was much harder to make friends. There was also that lesbian woman who lived undercover as a man for like a year or something and discovered basically the same thing. She eventually killed herself.

Posted by: Nobody really gives a shit at July 03, 2025 01:58 PM (TbWk/)

305 301

""Stephen Ireland, 41, who co-founded Pride in Surrey in 2018, raped the child at the flat he shared with his then-partner and co-defendant David Sutton, 27, in Addlestone on 19 April 2024 after messaging on Grindr.""

Pretty sure this is legal in the UK.

Posted by: REv Dr E Buzz at July 03, 2025 01:58 PM (d1nzH)

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Only in the House of Lords.

Or at boarding schools.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 01:58 PM (GBKbO)

306 I can't wait for the Great Gender Wars to begin. Honestly it will be more of a siege. We just have wait out Pink Eye, MonkeyPox, and AIDS to do the bulk of the work for the Heterosexual side.

Posted by: Croaker at July 03, 2025 01:58 PM (+BcZI)

307 Helena, I wasn't sure how to read things, but I wasn't reading you as objectionable or argumentative. I hope I didn't come across negatively.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 03, 2025 01:56 PM (kxQW1)

This is what makes you not an attention seeker.

Posted by: ... at July 03, 2025 01:59 PM (VPwHp)

308 Let's go ahead and ban divorce while we're at it. Since that's statistically one of the main drivers of male suicide.


===

what are the others ?

Posted by: runner at July 03, 2025 01:59 PM (g47mK)

309 >>> 291 Oh and before I go inside to get munitions...

Helena, I wasn't sure how to read things, but I wasn't reading you as objectionable or argumentative. I hope I didn't come across negatively.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 03, 2025 01:56 PM (kxQW1)

Not at all!


>>> 286 Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 03, 2025 01:46 PM (kxQW1)

It's not usually just the one thing. The attention seekers will have a pattern of doing it with *everything*. It's highly insulting to people who actually carry that weight but attention seekers don't care.
Posted by: ... at July 03, 2025 01:55 PM (VPwHp)

Well said.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 03, 2025 01:59 PM (ULPxl)

310 It's why I brook those consenting parents no quarter. One well-known detransitioner, Chloe Cole, says she understands her parents' dilemma when they consented to her unnecessary double mastectomy at the age of 15. My judgment of those parents is... harsher.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
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Some of those parents had the state threatening to take away their kid if they did not allow them to transition. Others divorced over it and the evil parent with custody rammed it through like in Texas augmented by judicial power to do so.

Others did it like Angelie Jolie (and another forgotten actress maimed by too much plastic surgery )for social credit in their perverted Hollyweird social scene for bragging points.

Posted by: whig at July 03, 2025 01:59 PM (ctrM5)

311 "There are not two sides to this issue," she once said, according to a recent episode of The Protocol, a New York Times podcast.

Boasting about your unwillingness to listen to your opponents probably plays well in some crowds.

This is yet another piece of evidence that leftist thought cannot stand up to scrutiny. To preserve their ideology, they must silence every other voice.
Posted by: Emmie
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I will never forget Joe Biden declaring, “We choose truth over facts,”

Which is to say that their asserted 'Truth', in their psyches, trancends reality.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 03, 2025 01:59 PM (XeU6L)

312 Catherine the Great refused to send Russian troops to America in spite of UK pleas and diplomatic efforts.

She also kept many British cavalry mounts busy.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 03, 2025 02:00 PM (ExV1e)

313
I'm not sure what neuro-divergent means.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA

============

It means you can get up for a break every hour during the SAT test.

But here's a look at a supposed neurodivergent:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=167se17RNHw

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 03, 2025 02:00 PM (Rrsaq)

314 I mentioned this before, maybe a long time ago. Used to have an adult m to f surgical "transitioner" renting a house nearby. He lived by itself and rarely left the house. He was hideous, a man in a dress with long hair. The a police presence and coroner's wagon with the body bag going in kind of confirmed his "move out" one day. Never heard a thing about it, either. Saw it with my own eyes though. And this is in a small town in WY.

Posted by: Brian Stelter's Used Donut Hole Emporium at July 03, 2025 02:00 PM (7Q0e+)

315
"Normal" is a setting on a washing machine.
Posted by: tcn in AK


Mine has abbie normal.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 03, 2025 02:00 PM (63Dwl)

316 Let's go ahead and ban divorce while we're at it. Since that's statistically one of the main drivers of male suicide.


===

what are the others ?

*Carrots in chili*

Posted by: Crusader at July 03, 2025 02:00 PM (TN0g+)

317 *Some of those parents had the state threatening to take away their kid if they did not allow them to transition. Others divorced over it and the evil parent with custody rammed it through like in Texas augmented by judicial power to do so.

Others did it like Angelie Jolie (and another forgotten actress maimed by too much plastic surgery )for social credit in their perverted Hollyweird social scene for bragging points.*

Now do Elon Musk.

Posted by: He calls himself Vivian now at July 03, 2025 02:01 PM (WeCH6)

318 297 It's not usually just the one thing. The attention seekers will have a pattern of doing it with *everything*. It's highly insulting to people who actually carry that weight but attention seekers don't care.
Posted by: ... at July 03, 2025 01:55 PM (VPwHp)

Agreed. It trivializes something that is very serious.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 03, 2025 01:57 PM (kxQW1)

Something that's been grinding my gears for years. As I stated in an earlier comment, it infuriates me to see people trivializing real problems for clout, and in the process making it harder for people who actually do suffer from those problems.

Posted by: No you're not actually triggered... at July 03, 2025 02:01 PM (TbWk/)

319 *Carrots in chili*


Bad dates !

Posted by: runner at July 03, 2025 02:01 PM (g47mK)

320 I'm of two minds about this neuro-divergent thing.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at July 03, 2025 02:01 PM (DjjUA)

321 > I will forever love her for treating Justin Trudeau with obvious contempt.

Have you ever seen the video of Jinping confronting Trudeau about leaking details of their closed-door meeting? Jinping never raises his voice, never seems flustered, but he calmly tells Trudeau to stop it. Trudeau seems fairly calm, but after the short talk, he walks in one direction, pauses, hops a bit on the spot, and quickly walks in another direction. He's clearly so flustered and anxious he doesn't know what to do with himself. It's magical.

This was in 2022 at the G20 Bali summit.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 03, 2025 02:01 PM (lIio7)

322 Do rabbits eat chilli now?

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 03, 2025 02:01 PM (Iv8wu)

323
Others did it like Angelie Jolie (and another forgotten actress maimed by too much plastic surgery )for social credit in their perverted Hollyweird social scene for bragging points.
Posted by: whig

==============

Not sure about Angelina. She just let her kid wear men's clothes and shave her head, never transed her or changed her pronouns. Shiloh (the kid) has ditched her father's name now and she generally looks feminine.

Charlize Theron is another matter.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 03, 2025 02:02 PM (Rrsaq)

324 Mine has abbie normal.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.


Sooo, not Hans Delbrook?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 03, 2025 02:02 PM (mlg/3)

325 I'm of two minds about this neuro-divergent thing.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at July 03, 2025 02:01 PM (DjjUA)

Binary? Really?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 03, 2025 02:02 PM (i24o9)

326 291 Oh and before I go inside to get munitions...

Helena, I wasn't sure how to read things, but I wasn't reading you as objectionable or argumentative. I hope I didn't come across negatively.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 03, 2025 01:56 PM (kxQW1)

You didn't. I can say that I have known all types in this - I have had good friends who committed suicide (successfully) because the pain in their lives was too much to bear, or in other cases their mental illness left them unable to view the world rationally anymore. I will always feel incredible sorry and pity for them. On the other hand, I have also known the pure manipulators, and there are sadly many of them. For them, this is just one more tool in their constant battle to push around everyone they know.
The manipulators are always good mimics. It takes some experience and wisdom to see them clearly. (obviously that's true in all areas of life, not just this topic)

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 03, 2025 02:02 PM (uWKK8)

327
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 03, 2025 02:02 PM (Rrsaq)

============

In fact, not shave her head, get a buzz cut.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 03, 2025 02:02 PM (Rrsaq)

328 15 Trans The Atlantic!
Posted by: It's my new bumper sticker at July 03, 2025 01:10 PM (WeCH6)

************

This, too, was in our ad campaigns just after we launched!

Posted by: The Titanic at July 03, 2025 02:03 PM (XwYdj)

329 Others did it like Angelie Jolie (and another forgotten actress maimed by too much plastic surgery )for social credit in their perverted Hollyweird social scene for bragging points.
Posted by: whig at July 03, 2025 01:59 PM (ctrM5)

Jolie's daughter only dressed like a boy, now that she's a beauty like her mom, it's designer dresses.
You must be twining of that Charlize bitch who's transing her adopted son, or that cow Jamie Lee Curtis

Posted by: night lifted at July 03, 2025 02:03 PM (FZn/N)

330 Super Hetero is still an identity, right?

Posted by: toby928 at July 03, 2025 02:03 PM (jc0TO)

331 Not sure about Angelina. She just let her kid wear men's clothes and shave her head, never transed her or changed her pronouns. Shiloh (the kid) has ditched her father's name now and she generally looks feminine.

Charlize Theron is another matter.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 03, 2025 02:02 PM (Rrsaq)

Shiloh is dating a woman

Posted by: It's me donna at July 03, 2025 02:03 PM (VE6XX)

332 It's why I brook those consenting parents no quarter. One well-known detransitioner, Chloe Cole, says she understands her parents' dilemma when they consented to her unnecessary double mastectomy at the age of 15. My judgment of those parents is... harsher.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
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Some of those parents had the state threatening to take away their kid if they did not allow them to transition. Others divorced over it and the evil parent with custody rammed it through like in Texas augmented by judicial power to do so.

Others did it like Angelie Jolie (and another forgotten actress maimed by too much plastic surgery )for social credit in their perverted Hollyweird social scene for bragging points.
Posted by: whig at July 03, 2025 01:59 PM (ctrM5)
____________

I would also not underestimate the power of "you can have a dead son or a live daughter." There's a reason the Mengeles kept pimping that line. It worked.

Almost surely the parents had already gone through years of problems with their mentally-ill kid. Probably constant threats of suicide. They were at their end. When some doctor in a lab coat says "dead son or live daughter," the parents believe it.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 02:03 PM (iFTx/)

333 I don't understand those men who sort of transition to women - implants, girly haircuts, makeup - but still have chest hair and beards. They remind me of those half- human/half-animal characters in The Island of Doctor Moreau.

I'll point out, as a matter of general interest, that the evil genius who transitioned animals into people wound up dying a horrible death at the hands of his subjects. I merely mention it.

Posted by: Paco at July 03, 2025 02:03 PM (mADJX)

334 But I also have episodes of anger, frustration, fuck-it-all-ness, and dysfunction. Is there anyone in the world who doesn't?


Me.
What is this "episodes" word you speak of?

Change "episodes" to default settings and you get close.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 03, 2025 02:04 PM (Bs2bL)

335 >>> 321
==
Have you ever seen the video of Jinping confronting Trudeau about leaking details of their closed-door meeting? Jinping never raises his voice, never seems flustered, but he calmly tells Trudeau to stop it. Trudeau seems fairly calm, but after the short talk, he walks in one direction, pauses, hops a bit on the spot, and quickly walks in another direction. He's clearly so flustered and anxious he doesn't know what to do with himself. It's magical.

This was in 2022 at the G20 Bali summit.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 03, 2025 02:01 PM (lIio7)

LOL

J. Castreau is such a pathetic little bitch.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 03, 2025 02:04 PM (ULPxl)

336 what are the others ?
-------

Marriage.

Posted by: ... at July 03, 2025 02:04 PM (VPwHp)

337 312 Catherine the Great refused to send Russian troops to America in spite of UK pleas and diplomatic efforts.

She also kept many British cavalry mounts busy.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 03, 2025 02:00 PM (ExV1e)

*facepalm*

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 03, 2025 02:04 PM (uWKK8)

338 Boy, these movement founders and leaders seem to be missing something in their makeup. Something human.

Earth Day Founder Ira Einhorn
Pride in Surrey Stephen Ireland
Weathermen / SDS Bill Ayres & Bernadine Dorn
etc.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 03, 2025 02:04 PM (wVcYX)

339 Others did it like Angelie Jolie (and another forgotten actress maimed by too much plastic surgery )for social credit in their perverted Hollyweird social scene for bragging points.
Posted by: whig

==============

Not sure about Angelina. She just let her kid wear men's clothes and shave her head, never transed her or changed her pronouns. Shiloh (the kid) has ditched her father's name now and she generally looks feminine.

Charlize Theron is another matter.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 03, 2025 02:02 PM (Rrsaq)

I though Jolie had a radical double mastectomy because she was a genetic carrier for inevitable breast cancer. Which would be a medical reason, not a cosmetic or being mental reason.

Posted by: There are legitimate reasons...just not transing at July 03, 2025 02:04 PM (TbWk/)

340 Not sure about Angelina. She just let her kid wear men's clothes and shave her head, never transed her or changed her pronouns. Shiloh (the kid) has ditched her father's name now and she generally looks feminine.

Charlize Theron is another matter.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
=======
Take your word for it. I was thinking but not saying Megan Fox as the other one. And I just confirmed it.

Posted by: whig at July 03, 2025 02:05 PM (ctrM5)

341 Super Hetero is still an identity, right?
Posted by: toby928


At this point, that's just wearing a button down shirt to work and skipping the soy.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 03, 2025 02:05 PM (mlg/3)

342 Charlize Theron is another matter.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 03, 2025 02:02 PM (Rrsaq)

Exactly.

Posted by: night lifted at July 03, 2025 02:05 PM (FZn/N)

343 WTF do all those terms mean? Two-Spirit???
Yeah, and using some behavioral traits of penguins and baboons as some kind of justification for perversion!

Posted by: Knowledge Economy Dipsh!t at July 03, 2025 02:05 PM (J4BK5)

344
Nobody gives a fuck about men. Which interestingly enough, a couple of trans "women" found out once they started living as men. Nobody gave a fuck about them anymore. Nobody paid them any attention. It was much harder to make friends.

Posted by: Nobody really gives a shit

===============

Well, everyone just treated her like a man. Didn't expect her to share her feelings, didn't expect her to listen about their own emotional problems. Didn't know how to make man-friends. Isolated, defeated, nothing would ever get better. Dysphoria cured!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 03, 2025 02:05 PM (Rrsaq)

345 I was once a librarian. Like many professions, it has been taken over & gutted by Marxists. Any rank& file librarian opposed to this either walked away, was purged, or learned to keep their sanity to themselves and stay out of the way of the true believers. Sad

Posted by: Rando del Ashalle at July 03, 2025 02:06 PM (BXZKv)

346 332 Almost surely the parents had already gone through years of problems with their mentally-ill kid. Probably constant threats of suicide. They were at their end. When some doctor in a lab coat says "dead son or live daughter," the parents believe it.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 02:03 PM (iFTx/)

None of the males in my family would have bought something like that. Mind you, every single one of my cousins on my father's side is gay (I have no earthly idea how/why), but none of them are Troons or Pooners.

Posted by: XTC at July 03, 2025 02:06 PM (6Uni8)

347 I though Jolie had a radical double mastectomy because she was a genetic carrier for inevitable breast cancer. Which would be a medical reason, not a cosmetic or being mental reason.
Posted by: There are legitimate reasons
=======
Was talking about her kids not her.

Posted by: whig at July 03, 2025 02:06 PM (ctrM5)

348 Super Hetero is still an identity, right?
Posted by: toby928 at July 03, 2025 02:03 PM (jc0TO)

Yes. Like Super Dave Osborne.

Posted by: Super Dave Osborne at July 03, 2025 02:06 PM (wVcYX)

349 I would also not underestimate the power of "you can have a dead son or a live daughter." There's a reason the Mengeles kept pimping that line. It worked.

Almost surely the parents had already gone through years of problems with their mentally-ill kid. Probably constant threats of suicide. They were at their end. When some doctor in a lab coat says "dead son or live daughter," the parents believe it.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 02:03 PM (iFTx/)

Honestly considering the question? I'd have to imagine that thinking about the life of pain and suffering the trans clearly realize, it would be a tough decision.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 03, 2025 02:06 PM (i24o9)

350 334 But I also have episodes of anger, frustration, fuck-it-all-ness, and dysfunction. Is there anyone in the world who doesn't?


Me.
What is this "episodes" word you speak of?

Change "episodes" to default settings and you get close.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 03, 2025 02:04 PM (Bs2bL)

Just pull yourself up by your bootstraps and choose happiness!

Posted by: Common yet useless advice at July 03, 2025 02:07 PM (TbWk/)

351 >>Hakeem Jeffries, still filibustering, proclaims that the passage of the bill means "a deportation machine will be unleashed on steroids."


Promise?

Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2025 02:07 PM (viF8m)

352 >>> 337 312 Catherine the Great refused to send Russian troops to America in spite of UK pleas and diplomatic efforts.
==
She also kept many British cavalry mounts busy.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 03, 2025 02:00 PM (ExV1e)

*facepalm*
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 03, 2025 02:04 PM (uWKK

istr reading suggestions that Catherine's um, strange behavior may have been exaggerated or even total BS; now I wonder if the reason for such has been identified.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 03, 2025 02:07 PM (ULPxl)

353 "Neurodivergent" = "at least a little bit off the beam."

It can mean anything from someone who's a touch neurotic, to Ted Bundy or Lindsey Graham.

It's a catch-all term that was invented to replace unfashionable hate words like "crazy."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 03, 2025 02:07 PM (BI5O2)

354 "Earth Day Founder Ira Einhorn
Pride in Surrey Stephen Ireland
Weathermen / SDS Bill Ayres & Bernadine Dorn
etc."

What about me?

Posted by: The guy who started Kwanzaa at July 03, 2025 02:07 PM (WeCH6)

355
I though Jolie had a radical double mastectomy because she was a genetic carrier for inevitable breast cancer. Which would be a medical reason, not a cosmetic or being mental reason.
Posted by: There are legitimate reasons.

==============

We're talking about Angelina's daughter, Shiloh, who some people called a little tranny, but she was just a girl who liked to dress like a boy. Angelina let her do it without triumphantly announcing that she was the proud mom of a trans child and rushing the kid to a kiddie butcher. Shiloh has never transed.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 03, 2025 02:08 PM (Rrsaq)

356 350 Just pull yourself up by your bootstraps and choose happiness!

Posted by: Common yet useless advice at July 03, 2025 02:07 PM (TbWk/)

No, not happiness.

Choose Badassery.

Posted by: XTC at July 03, 2025 02:08 PM (6Uni8)

357 Just pull yourself up by your bootstraps and choose happiness!
Posted by: Common yet useless advice


*snort.

Golf Clap.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 03, 2025 02:08 PM (Bs2bL)

358 I think my boots are strapless.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 03, 2025 02:08 PM (Iv8wu)

359 Was talking about her kids not her.
Posted by: whig at July 03, 2025 02:06 PM (ctrM5)

She let Shiloh dress as she wanted, and Shiloh grew out of it. She's stunning and all girl

Posted by: night lifted at July 03, 2025 02:08 PM (FZn/N)

360 "The people who were right about this in the facts were actually wrong because they had hate in their hearts. Don't listen to them, even on this issue. The people who were wrong about this in the facts were actually right because they had love in their hearts. Listen to them on every issue."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 02:08 PM (GBKbO)

361 I would also not underestimate the power of "you can have a dead son or a live daughter." There's a reason the Mengeles kept pimping that line. It worked.

Almost surely the parents had already gone through years of problems with their mentally-ill kid. Probably constant threats of suicide. They were at their end. When some doctor in a lab coat says "dead son or live daughter," the parents believe it.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade
======
Possibly but it is also possible that the entire mental health industry is far too prone to cheap therapy which worsens the problem rather than makes it better.

Rehab is another such industry.


Posted by: whig at July 03, 2025 02:08 PM (ctrM5)

362 Angelina Jolie is weird.. Hard to believe she is Jon Voight's Daughter... I pity those kids

Posted by: It's me donna at July 03, 2025 02:08 PM (VE6XX)

363 We're talking about Angelina's daughter, Shiloh, who some people called a little tranny, but she was just a girl who liked to dress like a boy. Angelina let her do it without triumphantly announcing that she was the proud mom of a trans child and rushing the kid to a kiddie butcher. Shiloh has never transed.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 03, 2025 02:08 PM (Rrsaq)

In context it sounded like the radical mastectomy was being addressed, which to my knowledge had nothing to do with her kids. Mystery solved.

Posted by: Mammaries sweet mammaries at July 03, 2025 02:09 PM (TbWk/)

364
She let Shiloh dress as she wanted, and Shiloh grew out of it. She's stunning and all girl
Posted by: night lifted at July 03, 2025 02:08 PM (FZn/N)


Except she's dating a girl...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 03, 2025 02:09 PM (VE6XX)

365 "Earth Day Founder Ira Einhorn
Pride in Surrey Stephen Ireland
Weathermen / SDS Bill Ayres & Bernadine Dorn
etc."

What about me?
Posted by: The guy who started Kwanzaa at July 03, 2025 02:07 PM (WeCH6)

Kill anyone? Did you try to kill anyone?

Posted by: Bea Arthur as Unemplovment Office Clerk at July 03, 2025 02:09 PM (wVcYX)

366 She let Shiloh dress as she wanted, and Shiloh grew out of it. She's stunning and all girl
Posted by: night lifted
=======
I already mentioned upstream that Morticia was correct on Jolie. Don't particularly care nor keep up with Hollyweird folks unless they intersect my news feeds on other issues.

Posted by: whig at July 03, 2025 02:10 PM (ctrM5)

367 We're talking about Angelina's daughter, Shiloh, who some people called a little tranny, but she was just a girl who liked to dress like a boy.


What we used yo call a tom boy. Until she hit puberty. About the time girls quit being "icky".

Then it was "hoo boy!"

Posted by: rickb223 at July 03, 2025 02:10 PM (Bs2bL)

368 364 Except she's dating a girl...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 03, 2025 02:09 PM (VE6XX)

That still doesn't make her a Pooner (MtF Tranny).

Posted by: XTC at July 03, 2025 02:10 PM (6Uni8)

369 >>Just pull yourself up by your bootstraps and choose happiness!

Rub some dirt on it. Stop whining, you have another arm.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2025 02:10 PM (viF8m)

370 votin' is happenin'

Posted by: Black Orchid at July 03, 2025 02:10 PM (Pv3Rg)

371 368 364 Except she's dating a girl...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 03, 2025 02:09 PM (VE6XX)

That still doesn't make her a Pooner (MtF Tranny).

Sorry, FtM. Got that backwards.

Posted by: XTC at July 03, 2025 02:10 PM (6Uni8)

372
That still doesn't make her a Pooner (MtF Tranny).
Posted by: XTC at July 03, 2025 02:10 PM (6Uni

Correct

Posted by: It's me donna at July 03, 2025 02:10 PM (VE6XX)

373 I would also not underestimate the power of "you can have a dead son or a live daughter." There's a reason the Mengeles kept pimping that line. It worked.

Almost surely the parents had already gone through years of problems with their mentally-ill kid. Probably constant threats of suicide. They were at their end. When some doctor in a lab coat says "dead son or live daughter," the parents believe it.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 02:03 PM (iFTx/)

Honestly considering the question? I'd have to imagine that thinking about the life of pain and suffering the trans clearly realize, it would be a tough decision.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 03, 2025 02:06 PM (i24o9)
_____

Most parents will do anything to protect or save their kid, especially when they have reason to think there's danger. When I was in college, I was pissed about something, probably not having any money. I bitched to my mom about it. She was worried that I was depressed and ... suicidal. She called the college. I had to meet with their shrinks for a month.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 02:10 PM (iFTx/)

374 It wasn't a fillibuster, only a floor speech.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 03, 2025 02:10 PM (Iv8wu)

375 370 votin' is happenin'
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 03, 2025 02:10 PM (Pv3Rg)

=====

May the stupid "will they, won't they" Congresscritter drama end for months after this.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 02:11 PM (GBKbO)

376 Just pull yourself up by your bootstraps and choose happiness!
Posted by: Common yet useless advice

Picky yourself up!
Dust yourself off!
Start all over again!

Posted by: Fred and Ginger at July 03, 2025 02:11 PM (OXFtY)

377 Rub some dirt on it. Stop whining, you have another arm.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2025 02:10 PM (viF8m)

*sobs*

Posted by: Michelle Fields at July 03, 2025 02:11 PM (VPwHp)

378 374 It wasn't a fillibuster, only a floor speech.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 03, 2025 02:10 PM (Iv8wu)

=======

He ran out the rules vote clock, essentially.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 02:11 PM (GBKbO)

379 What about me?
Posted by: The guy who started Kwanzaa at July 03, 2025 02:07 PM (WeCH6)

Kill anyone? Did you try to kill anyone?
Posted by: Bea Arthur as Unemplovment Office Clerk at July 03, 2025 02:09 PM
+++


"In 1971, he was convicted of felony assault, torture, and false imprisonment of women. He denied involvement and claimed the prosecution was political in nature. Karenga was imprisoned in California Men's Colony until he received parole in 1975."

Posted by: The guy who started Kwanzaa at July 03, 2025 02:12 PM (WeCH6)

380 istr reading suggestions that Catherine's um, strange behavior may have been exaggerated or even total BS; now I wonder if the reason for such has been identified.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 03, 2025 02:07 PM (ULPxl)


I suspect that it was always BS started by rival nobles.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 03, 2025 02:12 PM (ExV1e)

381 Kill anyone? Did you try to kill anyone?
Posted by: Bea Arthur as Unemplovment Office Clerk



Oh, a bullshit artist.

*Snort.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 03, 2025 02:12 PM (Bs2bL)

382 May the stupid "will they, won't they" Congresscritter drama end for months after this.

I just hope Nancy Mace got her narrow ass wherever it needs to be to vote

she is a ridiculous woman

Posted by: Black Orchid at July 03, 2025 02:12 PM (Pv3Rg)

383
Almost surely the parents had already gone through years of problems with their mentally-ill kid. Probably constant threats of suicide. They were at their end. When some doctor in a lab coat says "dead son or live daughter," the parents believe it.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade

=============

How many years? These kids are like 11 when they're put on puberty blockers, and the cutting starts when they're teenagers. I don't get the impression it's the way you've described it. Detransitioners confess to being PITAs to their families, but lots of parents suffer that.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 03, 2025 02:12 PM (Rrsaq)

384 May the stupid "will they, won't they" Congresscritter drama end for months after this.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 02:11 PM (GBKbO)

Would you believe not paying any actual attention to this stuff makes a person FAR happier.

Posted by: ... at July 03, 2025 02:12 PM (VPwHp)

385 I had to meet with their shrinks for a month.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 02:10 PM (iFTx/)

I called homesick from boot camp, wanted to quit. I was encouraged to continue. End of conversation.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 03, 2025 02:12 PM (i24o9)

386 Looks like the House is voting now. Massie is a No.

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 03, 2025 02:12 PM (2cS/G)

387 Does Super Hetero require a cape?

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 03, 2025 02:12 PM (Iv8wu)

388 TIL people in South Africa install heavy outdoor security gates in the hallway to their bedroom to keep the locals out. They're nicknamed, "rape gates."

http://tiny.cc/vrko001

Posted by: bonhomme at July 03, 2025 02:12 PM (lIio7)

389 Just pull yourself up by your bootstraps and choose happiness!

Rub some dirt on it. Stop whining, you have another arm.
---------

*Sobs*

Posted by: Michelle Fields at July 03, 2025 02:13 PM (TN0g+)

390 so what you guys are saying is, be a sex perv psycho and you get a holiday?!?!

Posted by: Black Orchid at July 03, 2025 02:13 PM (Pv3Rg)

391 Honestly considering the question? I'd have to imagine that thinking about the life of pain and suffering the trans clearly realize, it would be a tough decision.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder

Pretty clear from evidence way back when Johns Hopkins shut down its transing unit for adults that gender reassignment treatment does not result in a happy ending. No reason that transing a kid would improve that dismal record and I suspect that a lot of medical professionals and their institutions are going to be sued over and over again by miserable grown up butchered kids that have grown up.

In the end, reality always wins over magical thinking.

Posted by: whig at July 03, 2025 02:13 PM (ctrM5)

392 NO CAPES

Posted by: Edna Mode at July 03, 2025 02:13 PM (jc0TO)

393 384 May the stupid "will they, won't they" Congresscritter drama end for months after this.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 02:11 PM (GBKbO)

Would you believe not paying any actual attention to this stuff makes a person FAR happier.
Posted by: ... at July 03, 2025 02:12 PM (VPwHp)

========

Cutting out politics and just watching The Great British Bake Off is a recipe for a happy life.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 02:13 PM (GBKbO)

394 383 How many years? These kids are like 11 when they're put on puberty blockers, and the cutting starts when they're teenagers. I don't get the impression it's the way you've described it. Detransitioners confess to being PITAs to their families, but lots of parents suffer that.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 03, 2025 02:12 PM (Rrsaq)

A lot of these kids probably called their parents abusive at the time, but they probably deserved every single beating they got.

Posted by: XTC at July 03, 2025 02:13 PM (6Uni8)

395 386 Looks like the House is voting now. Massie is a No.


what an asshat

Posted by: Black Orchid at July 03, 2025 02:13 PM (Pv3Rg)

396 From the content:
They keep almost admitting it but not quite - by which I mean, while acknowledging the falsity they never take that tiny little step to realize that maybe it's deliberate: lying, in other words. They also seem to think irresponsible is just as bad as lying - and they call us the humorless scolds!

Similarly, they continue to treat all the new, mostly-fake words, as if they were legit. If an actual conservative had written that article, I would expect them to point out clearly (instead of leaving it between the lines) that while accusing us of creating a moral panic, the trans-is-always-right brigade... created a much bigger moral panic.

Posted by: RandomDave at July 03, 2025 02:13 PM (aJQbY)

397 They're nicknamed, "rape gates."

http://tiny.cc/vrko001
Posted by: bonhomme at July 03, 2025 02:12 PM (lIio7)

I had one of those that locked from the other side.

Posted by: Matt Lauer at July 03, 2025 02:13 PM (VPwHp)

398 4th tomorrow. The only day besides New Years I can fire off a few rounds in my backyard.

Posted by: wth at July 03, 2025 02:13 PM (v0R5T)

399 You're soaking in it.

Posted by: Madge at July 03, 2025 02:13 PM (WeCH6)

400 Does Super Hetero require a cape?
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 03, 2025 02:12 PM (Iv8wu)

Super Dave Osborne is all for capes. And helmets.

Posted by: Super Dave Osborne at July 03, 2025 02:14 PM (wVcYX)

401 Cutting out politics and just watching The Great British Bake Off is a recipe for a happy life.

there's a tranny on there ya know

I like him tho he's pretty funny

your normal brit transvestite really

Posted by: Black Orchid at July 03, 2025 02:14 PM (Pv3Rg)

402 so what you guys are saying is, be a sex perv psycho and you get a holiday?!?!
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 03, 2025 02:13 PM (Pv3Rg)

Nooooooooo......

Posted by: MLK at July 03, 2025 02:14 PM (VPwHp)

403 May the stupid "will they, won't they" Congresscritter drama end for months after this.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 02:11 PM (GBKbO)


Well, they'll be on their Forth of July holiday until mid-September so it'll be less noticeable.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 03, 2025 02:14 PM (ExV1e)

404 401 Cutting out politics and just watching The Great British Bake Off is a recipe for a happy life.

there's a tranny on there ya know

I like him tho he's pretty funny

your normal brit transvestite really
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 03, 2025 02:14 PM (Pv3Rg)

======

I'm only on season 11.

The girl with the cochlear implant is cute.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 02:15 PM (GBKbO)

405 In the end, reality always wins over magical thinking.

Posted by: whig at July 03, 2025 02:13 PM (ctrM5)

I forget where, but I read that something like only 20% of the population was capable of critical thinking. It does not surprise me that so many fall victim to the dead son/live girl high pressure sales tactics of Big Chopper.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 03, 2025 02:15 PM (i24o9)

406 CNN's cope: "The multi-trillion-dollar bill would unlock tax cuts and funding boosts for national security, partly paid for by the largest cut to the federal safety net in decades."

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 03, 2025 02:15 PM (2cS/G)

407 Biden says European leaders have been calling to ask his advice since he left office

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Big Mouth of the West at July 03, 2025 01:23 PM (L/fGl)

"Emmanuel, I'm glad you called me for advice about fighting Trump. The first think you should do is what my grandmother, bless her soul told me, she was Irish to the marrow of her bones and hated tyrants, you know...she told me, "Joey, don't eat ice cream too fast, it can make your brain freeze!" Uh, anyway, what you should do is tell Trump to come around behind the barn with you, then beat his brains out! Emmanuel, uh, are you still there? Jill! I think my phone broke! I can't hear the President of France anymore."

Posted by: Joe! at July 03, 2025 02:15 PM (aBgBM)

408 406 CNN's cope: "The multi-trillion-dollar bill would unlock tax cuts and funding boosts for national security, partly paid for by the largest cut to the federal safety net in decades."
Posted by: Lincolntf at July 03, 2025 02:15 PM (2cS/G)

=======

"There is no fraud in Medicaid. Also, cutting illegals out of Medicaid is a travesty."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 02:16 PM (GBKbO)

409 Rub some dirt on it. Stop whining, you have another arm.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2025 02:10 PM (viF8m)

*sobs*
Posted by: Michelle Fields

*ratcheting noise*
Quit whining, bitch.

Posted by: Inspector Krogh at July 03, 2025 02:16 PM (v0R5T)

410 Cochlear implant are FtM, right?

Posted by: toby928 at July 03, 2025 02:16 PM (jc0TO)

411
Except she's dating a girl...
Posted by: It's me donna

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And plenty of detransitioners admit that they should have just given in to their lesbian selves, so she's on the healthy side of that.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 03, 2025 02:16 PM (Rrsaq)

412 388 TIL people in South Africa install heavy outdoor security gates in the hallway to their bedroom to keep the locals out. They're nicknamed, "rape gates."

http://tiny.cc/vrko001
Posted by: bonhomme at July 03, 2025 02:12 PM (lIio7)

A/K/A 'chastity veld'

Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 03, 2025 02:16 PM (0CU3H)

413 I forget where, but I read that something like only 20% of the population was capable of critical thinking.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 03, 2025 02:15 PM (i24o9)

40% of men. Not bad.

Posted by: ... at July 03, 2025 02:16 PM (VPwHp)

414 Except she's dating a girl...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 03, 2025 02:09 PM (VE6XX)

Choreographer Sean Lew is guy

Posted by: night lifted at July 03, 2025 02:16 PM (FZn/N)

415 You must be twining of that Charlize bitch who's transing her adopted son, or that cow Jamie Lee Curtis
Posted by: night lifted at July 03, 2025 02:03 PM (FZn/N)

Proof positive that actors are the intellectual equivalent of public school teachers.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 03, 2025 02:16 PM (1Gsou)

416 The Great British Bake Off

ok this must be a different show than the one I watched - The Great British Baking Show?

he was on early seasons, as the host

he was also on the IT crowd?

Posted by: Black Orchid at July 03, 2025 02:16 PM (Pv3Rg)

417 >>what an asshat

Funny that Massie didn't have a problem voting to give Biden a debt ceiling raise with zero strings.

He's not principlied. He's on the other side.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2025 02:16 PM (viF8m)

418
And plenty of detransitioners admit that they should have just given in to their lesbian selves, so she's on the healthy side of that.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 03, 2025 02:16 PM (Rrsaq)

Which is probably true.. There were rumors for years that her mother was Bi

Posted by: It's me donna at July 03, 2025 02:17 PM (VE6XX)

419 40% of men. Not bad.


lol not surprising

2x of males can think

Posted by: Black Orchid at July 03, 2025 02:17 PM (Pv3Rg)

420 I admit that I now want this bill to pass just so that I can see Trump do the YMCA dance, and then watch every leftist in the country to fall into a miserable 3 day weekend depression of weeping and moaning and lamentation of their women over it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 03, 2025 02:17 PM (uWKK8)

421 416 The Great British Bake Off

ok this must be a different show than the one I watched - The Great British Baking Show?

he was on early seasons, as the host

he was also on the IT crowd?
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 03, 2025 02:16 PM (Pv3Rg)

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Pillsbury owns the rights to TV shows named Bake Off in the US, so when Bake Off gets shown in the US, they rebrand it to Baking Show.

Are you thinking of Noel Fielding? He's not a tranny.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 02:18 PM (GBKbO)

422 Fun with a chainsaw here.

Really do feel for Afrikaners, get out, asap, the Marxists will kill you all eventually, or turn you into slaves

Posted by: Skip at July 03, 2025 02:18 PM (+qU29)

423 Tomboys used to be a normal thing for some girls. They'd dress like boys and do the sort of things boys would do, like learn how to throw a baseball, and then grow out of it.

Which would come in handy when filling out an adult co-ed softball team. One I played on in the early 90s had several women who were tomboys when growing up (and all but one turned out to be heterosexual women - the last one, who was a homerun threat and could play in the outfield as well as most guys, was a butch lesbian), and we won state one of those years.

Posted by: The Titanic at July 03, 2025 02:18 PM (XwYdj)

424
Choreographer Sean Lew is guy
Posted by: night lifted at July 03, 2025 02:16 PM (FZn/N)

Well now it's some dancer that's female Rose is the last name

Posted by: It's me donna at July 03, 2025 02:18 PM (VE6XX)

425
Cutting out politics and just watching The Great British Bake Off is a recipe for a happy life.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

===============

It was one of my refuges during the first 2 years of the Biden administration, when I was on a news boycott. I watched so much of it someone got me a GBBO cookbook for Christmas last year. It wasn't from my favorite season, though. I liked the one with Rahul and Ruby.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 03, 2025 02:18 PM (Rrsaq)

426 Are you thinking of Noel Fielding? He's not a tranny.


maybe he only dabbled? recently he looked like more a trans

Posted by: Black Orchid at July 03, 2025 02:18 PM (Pv3Rg)

427 420 I admit that I now want this bill to pass just so that I can see Trump do the YMCA dance, and then watch every leftist in the country to fall into a miserable 3 day weekend depression of weeping and moaning and lamentation of their women over it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 03, 2025 02:17 PM (uWKK

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I want it to pass so that ICE can deport 10,000 a day and then the rescission bill defunding NPR and Planned Parenthood can pass the Senate.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 02:18 PM (GBKbO)

428 It's quite heartwarming to see Michelle Fields being remembered so fondly on this site.

Posted by: Old Softee at July 03, 2025 02:18 PM (OXFtY)

429 386 Looks like the House is voting now. Massie is a No.
Posted by: Lincolntf
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Not much surprise there. Massie probably has decided to hang it up and as a result is nailing his flag to the mast.

At a certain point, even Elon's money might not save him because the people that vote in primaries are activists that are less moved by money than ideas. I could however see Massie running as a sore loser independent if KY does not have such laws.

Posted by: whig at July 03, 2025 02:18 PM (ctrM5)

430 Posted by: Black Orchid at July 03, 2025 02:17 PM (Pv3Rg)

Oh Orchid.... you sweet summer child....

Posted by: ... at July 03, 2025 02:18 PM (VPwHp)

431 5 minutes to go Nay leads by 5. 21 not voted yet.

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 03, 2025 02:19 PM (2cS/G)

432 You can have a live girl or dead boy. And if you choose live girl, then I get to buy a larger house with the pool and the Porsche I always wanted.

Posted by: Dr Mangler at July 03, 2025 02:19 PM (Dv3i1)

433 TIL people in South Africa install heavy outdoor security gates in the hallway to their bedroom to keep the locals out. They're nicknamed, "rape gates."

http://tiny.cc/vrko001
Posted by: bonhomme at July 03, 2025 02:12 PM (lIio7)

A/K/A 'chastity veld'
Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 03, 2025 02:16 PM (0CU3H)
_________

Yea, but having inner gates like that is not unusual in third-world countries or violent cities. Anyone with any money or reason to think they might be a target will have a home or apartment locked up like fort knox. The really wealthy have dedicated panic rooms. Indeed, I know a number of rich Americans who have panic rooms.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 02:19 PM (iFTx/)

434 Off sinkable sock!

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at July 03, 2025 02:20 PM (XwYdj)

435 425 426 Are you thinking of Noel Fielding? He's not a tranny.


maybe he only dabbled? recently he looked like more a trans
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 03, 2025 02:18 PM (Pv3Rg)

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He's an aging comedian who was voted sexiest man in Britain when he was like 25. Yeah, he's gonna lean into things to keep his looks up, and he's always dabbled that line with transvestitism but never wearing a dress. He's not Eddie Izard.

Hilarious on Taskmaster, though.

I need to watch The Mighty Boosh again.

Old Greg!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 02:20 PM (GBKbO)

436
Choreographer Sean Lew is guy
Posted by: night lifted

==============

Better still. Publicity on her moves pretty fast.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 03, 2025 02:20 PM (Rrsaq)

437 hmm maybe I am confusing Noel with that other Brit comic who did in fact trans - the marathon running guy?

it's hard to keep with brit guys who like being ladies!

Posted by: Black Orchid at July 03, 2025 02:20 PM (Pv3Rg)

438 It's quite heartwarming to see Michelle Fields being remembered so fondly on this site.
Posted by: Old Softee
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Rachel Corrie, also.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 03, 2025 02:20 PM (XeU6L)

439 132 >>Biden says European leaders have been calling to ask his advice since he left office

My advice to world leaders...

Always..no, never use a sit and spin right after you poop your pants.
Never play pocket pool after you poop your pants.
Please Joe don't use the swimming pool after you poop your pants.
Ask people to pull your finger before rather than after you poop your pants.
Don't yell 'Emergency Blow!' as you poop your pants.
If the server asks if you want anything else, it's not ok to poop your pants and ask for a wipe and a handshake.

My word as a Biden, you follow these to the letter, you'll live a life of joy and profit!

Posted by: Nelly at July 03, 2025 02:20 PM (cHLus)

440 > recently he looked like more a trans

He's an aging goth. Many men get softer features as their Testosterone drops. Add in the long hair and the different clothing and they can look a little tranny. I don't think he is, though.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 03, 2025 02:21 PM (lIio7)

441 Nay leads by 3, 11 Reps left to vote, 2 Dems. 2 mnutes.

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 03, 2025 02:21 PM (2cS/G)

442 Eddie Izzard! thanks!

oof he was on that terrible Greek Gods show on Apple TV I think it was - awful show - he looked like a zombie

Posted by: Black Orchid at July 03, 2025 02:21 PM (Pv3Rg)

443 437 hmm maybe I am confusing Noel with that other Brit comic who did in fact trans - the marathon running guy?

it's hard to keep with brit guys who like being ladies!
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 03, 2025 02:20 PM (Pv3Rg)

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Eddie Izzard, I think you're thinking of.

I don't think he transed. I don't think. Might be wrong. I saw something with him on it relatively recently (Big Fat Quiz? A Travel Man? not sure), and he was wearing makeup and women's clothes, but I don't think he'd transed...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 02:21 PM (GBKbO)

444 it's hard to keep with brit guys who like being ladies!
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 03, 2025 02:20 PM (Pv3Rg)

No that was to your 2x post. You may want to revisit the math on my claim....

Posted by: ... at July 03, 2025 02:21 PM (VPwHp)

445 How to break a tie?

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 03, 2025 02:22 PM (Iv8wu)

446 I am looking forward to the day when I won't have to hear about this hyper-political buffoon (tm) Massie ever again!

Posted by: runner at July 03, 2025 02:22 PM (g47mK)

447 442 Eddie Izzard! thanks!

oof he was on that terrible Greek Gods show on Apple TV I think it was - awful show - he looked like a zombie
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 03, 2025 02:21 PM (Pv3Rg)

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He does look awful now.

Like an old lesbian.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 02:22 PM (GBKbO)

448 After all this this better pass

Posted by: It's me donna at July 03, 2025 02:22 PM (VE6XX)

449 No that was to your 2x post. You may want to revisit the math on my claim....
[/]
hey man I'm a chick so

don't expect rational thinking

Posted by: Black Orchid at July 03, 2025 02:22 PM (Pv3Rg)

450 omg

Posted by: Black Orchid at July 03, 2025 02:22 PM (Pv3Rg)

451 Once the Fed funding is gone, who's gonna pay for these transitionings?
Right... the physicians and the hospitals and the drug companies out of their own pockets... fer the chilluns right?

Posted by: MkY at July 03, 2025 02:22 PM (cPGH3)

452 Another Repub voted Nay.

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 03, 2025 02:22 PM (2cS/G)

453 I forget where, but I read that something like only 20% of the population was capable of critical thinking. It does not surprise me that so many fall victim to the dead son/live girl high pressure sales tactics of Big Chopper.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 03, 2025 02:15 PM (i24o9)

I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but only 20%? That's terrifying.

Posted by: "Sheeple" seems even more apropos at July 03, 2025 02:23 PM (TbWk/)

454 White Flag lap, race to the Checkered

Posted by: Chris Economaki at July 03, 2025 02:23 PM (wVcYX)

455 445 How to break a tie?
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 03, 2025 02:22 PM (Iv8wu)

the accepted method is usually briefcases full of cash.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 03, 2025 02:23 PM (uWKK8)

456 452 Another Repub voted Nay.
Posted by: Lincolntf at July 03, 2025 02:22 PM (2cS/G)

Can only have 1 more

Posted by: It's me donna at July 03, 2025 02:23 PM (VE6XX)

457 I forget where, but I read that something like only 20% of the population was capable of critical thinking. It does not surprise me that so many fall victim to the dead son/live girl high pressure sales tactics of Big Chopper.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder
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And even of that 20%, people have blindspots. Humans are not Spock which is why that particular character worked well bumping up against someone all too human.

Modern life was recognized as causing alienation way back in the 1890's and I think that societal changes has made a fair number of people unhappy in the midst of untold of prosperity and long life. Course, we always whitewash the awful actuality of the past where a person got a skint knee and died of sepsis shortly thereafter or died of hunger, malnutrition, and a host of other evils latched onto mankind.

Posted by: whig at July 03, 2025 02:23 PM (ctrM5)

458 I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but only 20%? That's terrifying.

Posted by: "Sheeple" seems even more apropos at July 03, 2025 02:23 PM (TbWk/)

Ain't it. And I thought I was black pilled before.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 03, 2025 02:23 PM (i24o9)

459 He does look awful now.

Like an old lesbian.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 02:22 PM (GBKbO)

Like Steven Tyler of Aerosmith.

Posted by: It's...uncanny at July 03, 2025 02:23 PM (TbWk/)

460 Looks like it passed at the last second.

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 03, 2025 02:24 PM (2cS/G)

461 2 mnutes

Pretty sure that the timer is an "at least that long" and not a hard stop. I've seen votes held open for almost an hour while arms were twisted.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 03, 2025 02:24 PM (ExV1e)

462 How to break a tie?
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 03, 2025 02:22 PM (Iv8wu)

the accepted method is usually briefcases full of cash.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 03, 2025 02:23 PM (uWKK
____

Hookers and blow

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 02:24 PM (iFTx/)

463 432 You can have a live girl or dead boy. And if you choose live girl, then I get to buy a larger house with the pool and the Porsche I always wanted.

Posted by: Dr Mangler at July 03, 2025 02:19 PM (Dv3i1)


Not all get Dr. Mangler, top-notch child or adult mutilator. Some get whatever mutilator will do the job for what a Blue State is willing to pay. If that's not enough to scare someone away from significant permanent body-altering surgery, I don't what to say, other than the patient is clearly insane.

Posted by: Gref at July 03, 2025 02:24 PM (aBgBM)

464 If my kid decided to get a nose job at 7, I'd say wait till you are at least 18.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at July 03, 2025 02:24 PM (D1vbu)

465 Cutting out politics and just watching The Great British Bake Off is a recipe for a happy life.

There is a point at which the politics intrude. You start noticing that you can predict who is going to win based on the immutable physical characteristics of the competitors. Four white Brits and an Indian woman? She's gonna win. Mixed group with one blatant flaming queer? He's gonna win.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2025 02:24 PM (dfIr7)

466 He does look awful now.

Like an old lesbian.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 02:22 PM (GBKbO)

Like Steven Tyler of Aerosmith.
Posted by: It's...uncanny at July 03, 2025 02:23 PM (TbWk/)

He's a wanker.

Posted by: Gary Glitter at July 03, 2025 02:24 PM (wVcYX)

467 456 452 Another Repub voted Nay.
Posted by: Lincolntf at July 03, 2025 02:22 PM (2cS/G)

Can only have 1 more
Posted by: It's me donna
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Actually, they can hold the vote open as long as they want and persuade vote changes from the no votes. Votes in the House are not finalized until the Speaker says they are.

Posted by: whig at July 03, 2025 02:24 PM (ctrM5)

468 Note to anyone considering "transitioning" from being a man to being a woman:

You don't get to claim you know what being a woman feels like. Your point of view is irreparably lost to that bit of information. You have never lived in a woman's body, nor had to deal with all of the physical and emotional frustrations of raging hormones, pregnancy and birth, menopause, and dozens of other little events a woman has to deal with. There is no way in hell you can honestly believe you "feel" like a woman.

So shut up already. It is insulting to those of us who are, you know, women.

You want to wear womanface and act all prissy? Most of us don't even do that. You are an actor. Get over yourself.

I expect the same is true for women "transing" to "become" men. I can't speak to that. I have never been a man.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 03, 2025 02:25 PM (1Gsou)

469 BBB passed the House, 216-214.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at July 03, 2025 02:25 PM (oSeBJ)

470 Nood.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 03, 2025 02:25 PM (lIio7)

471 460 Looks like it passed.


woo hoo!

time to hit the pool!

Posted by: Black Orchid at July 03, 2025 02:25 PM (Pv3Rg)

472 So shut up already. It is insulting to those of us who are, you know, women.

You want to wear womanface and act all prissy? Most of us don't even do that. You are an actor. Get over yourself.

I expect the same is true for women "transing" to "become" men. I can't speak to that. I have never been a man.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 03, 2025 02:25 PM (1Gsou)

Calm down.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 03, 2025 02:26 PM (i24o9)

473 Nude Graft

Posted by: toby928 at July 03, 2025 02:26 PM (jc0TO)

474 I think Eddie Izzard is a transexual now. He used to just claim he was a transvestite "I just like dresses!" Whatever dude, just be funny, I don't have to watch you do comedy. But he's really lost his way.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2025 02:26 PM (dfIr7)

475 2 mnutes

Pretty sure that the timer is an "at least that long" and not a hard stop. I've seen votes held open for almost an hour while arms were twisted.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 03, 2025 02:24 PM (ExV1e)

Hockey 2 minutes? Football 2 minutes? Basketball 2 minutes?

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 03, 2025 02:26 PM (wVcYX)

476 Transitioning does not reduce suicide (perhaps increases the odds), but it does seem to increase homicidal tendencies.

I don’t want to downplay that they were insane to begin with and going through mutilation didn’t change that, but the scene in Priscilla, Queen of the Desert where the ex-Kryptonian is eating pills like they were breakfast cereal was only slightly exaggerated. In order to keep the fiction going requires pills, it requires pills to keep the mutilation from getting infected, the pills require pills to reduce side effects, and the side effect reduction pills require pills.

All of which is likely to screw with brain chemistry.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 03, 2025 02:26 PM (olroh)

477 BBB passed the House, 216-214.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at July 03, 2025 02:25 PM (oSeBJ)


And that was the same bill as passed the Senate so it's on to Trump?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 03, 2025 02:26 PM (ExV1e)

478 Pretty sure that the timer is an "at least that long" and not a hard stop. I've seen votes held open for almost an hour while arms were twisted.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
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Last night was an example and may have set the record. Before that, McCarthy did in 2023-24 on a bill. Tom Delay created the tactic for the GOP but Dems have done similar antics when running the House.

Posted by: whig at July 03, 2025 02:27 PM (ctrM5)

479 217-214.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at July 03, 2025 02:27 PM (oSeBJ)

480 20%, at least as a natural rate, might be correct. Gee, maybe college can't actually teach it (at least not to very many)? Maybe it's that people who were judged appropriate for college path were natural critical-thinkers?

Posted by: RandomDave at July 03, 2025 02:28 PM (aJQbY)

481 BBB passed the House, 216-214.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at July 03, 2025 02:25 PM (oSeBJ)

And that was the same bill as passed the Senate so it's on to Trump?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 03, 2025 02:26 PM (ExV1e)

It's my understanding that the House just passed the Senate version.

On to the White House.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at July 03, 2025 02:29 PM (oSeBJ)

482 Soccer - added or stoppage time?

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 03, 2025 02:29 PM (wVcYX)

483
And that was the same bill as passed the Senate so it's on to Trump?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

Yep. Apparently Thune snuck in a lot of the verbiage thrown out by the Parliamentarian back into the final bill. That was allowed because the Dems had to object to that reversion citing the Byrd rule using a point of order. Then the amendment would have required 60 votes. Apparently they did not do that. That was the story floating around last night.

By the same bill language being used by the House, no new Senate vote (and objection) can happen. Bill is now to be presented to Trump for signing.

Posted by: whig at July 03, 2025 02:29 PM (ctrM5)

484 The Atlantic...

The Atlantic?

THE Atlantic???

Posted by: Guy Fleegman as Crewman #6 at July 03, 2025 04:02 PM (Ug/DH)

485 Liberal idiots think Backyard BBQ's cause Global Warming/Climate Change and will want it banned the same idiots think Backyard BBQ's are Polluting the Air since their nit-wits and screwballs

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at July 03, 2025 06:08 PM (wGqjj)

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