Democrats Block School Choice Tax Credits in the Big Beautiful Bill

I'm sure the bill is flawed, but giving parents a way out of our deliberately-catastrophic fake education system is a great boon.

But only some of them. The Democrat-hired, John-Thune-permitted Senate Parlimentarian ruled that the provision to provide tax credits for private school was not a purely fiscal matter, and to get a vote on it, Republicans had to agree that only parents in states whose governments permitted them to use these tax credits could do so.

In other words: All of the blue states are going to forbid any of their citizens from using their own tax money to send their kids to good schools that they themselves pick.

Why? To protect the teachers union failure factories, of course. The teachers unions have a couple of truly disgusting imperatives, but the most sacred of them is having a monopoly on teaching children. They know if parents have any other choice, they'll flee the teachers union monopoly.

But maybe blue state voters will get angry enough when they see red state parents choosing their own schools that they'll demand that blue states opt in to the program, too.

And if not: F**k 'em. Let the blue states burn to the ground.

Buried in the 940-page "big, beautiful" budget blueprint is an unprecedented tax credit that, if approved, will be a long-sought victory for the private school choice movement in its drive to expand and break into Democratic states that for decades have blocked its path.
The tax credit program, which would provide scholarships to K-12 students to pay for private schooling, would mark a significant shift in federal education policy. The scholarships would be the first major federal initiative designed to propel the nationwide growth of private school choice, a largely conservative and Christian movement championed by President Trump and suburban Republicans alike.
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Beyond boosting participation, the program is also a wedge to crack into states controlled by Democrats. These blue-state lawmakers, backed by teachers' unions, have long resisted private school choice as a threat to public school enrollment. The granting of scholarships, advocates say, would plant a seed of interest among families in Democratic enclaves at a time when enrollment and academic performance have been steadily declining at public schools.
"In terms of the number of students served and the geographic scope, it would be the most important piece of school choice legislation ever," said Patrick Wolf, a prominent scholar of the movement at the University of Arkansas. "Advocates hope it will provide a proof of concept in blue states and show that if a few thousand kids get scholarships the public school system won't crater."
But the potential of the scholarship program to meet the advocates' goals has been weakened this week in the Senate. The program was included in the massive budget bill because, as a standalone measure, it wouldn't survive a filibuster by Senate Democrats. The budget bill can be passed by a simple Senate majority, provided it only addresses fiscal matters.
The Senate parliamentarian, however, objected to the scholarship program, ruling, to the dismay of Republicans, that it seeks to impose a policy on the states. In response, Republicans had to amend the initiative to allow states to decide whether to participate, a change that could hamper the movement's efforts to breach liberal jurisdictions.
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"We're all disappointed that the bill is not as good as it was when it went into the committee," said Jim Blew, co-founder of the conservative Defense of Freedom Institute and former assistant secretary in the Department of Education under Betsy DeVos. "If the Senate version is the final, it's a big win for families that want to choose a better school for their children."
A Blue State Workaround
The tax credit is partly a workaround of the blue wall of opposition to private school choice. Some 15 mostly Democratic states have never passed or have overturned measures that use public funds to pay for students' private education. The battles have been heated, with state teachers' unions typically leading the resistance to protect public school funding. In Colorado, the state education association helped defeat a ballot measure last year that it feared would lead to the establishment of a voucher program. Voters in Nebraska shot down an existing voucher program in 2024. Illinois is the only state in which the legislature ended a private school choice program. In the big blue states of California and New York, choice advocates have made little headway.
If the federal program becomes law, however, some Democratic states may come under pressure to opt in, partly because it doesn't draw on local tax dollars. It's free money.
"Leaders of blue states would have to explain to their citizens why they rejected free federal education dollars, instead leaving all that money for red states," said Wolf. "That's a tough sell."

Posted by: Ace at 05:20 PM

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1 democrats love them some big school union donations and they will fight to the death to keep that graft going.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 03, 2025 05:22 PM (e5NfL)

2 Oh.....first!

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 03, 2025 05:22 PM (e5NfL)

3 They know people will flee the school system because they know that they cannot compete. They know they do a shitty job, but they do not want to be held to any standard or have any sort of metric by which they are measured- because they know they will never measure up.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 03, 2025 05:23 PM (bss/y)

4 Top 10!

Posted by: Crusader at July 03, 2025 05:23 PM (TN0g+)

5 Won't Somebody Think About The Children!!??!

Posted by: garrett at July 03, 2025 05:24 PM (T4A2M)

6 >>>"Leaders of blue states would have to explain to their citizens why they rejected free federal education dollars, instead leaving all that money for red states," said Wolf. "That's a tough sell."

That's a day ending in "y."

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 03, 2025 05:24 PM (i24o9)

7 That Senate Parlimentarian must be one hell of a lay, can't see why she's still employed otherwise.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 03, 2025 05:24 PM (xcxpd)

8 Subject to the Teachers Marxists Union

Posted by: Skip at July 03, 2025 05:24 PM (+qU29)

9 Sounds like a big own goal by the dems. Gonna have the blue state voters fighting for them to adopt school choice hahaha

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 03, 2025 05:25 PM (MGB5H)

10 SBRs and suppressor have a tax of $0 in the new bill. So I am wondering how you get a tax stamp without paying a tax.

Posted by: toby928 at July 03, 2025 05:25 PM (jc0TO)

11 something to run on in 2026

Posted by: runner at July 03, 2025 05:25 PM (g47mK)

12 >> In other words: All of the blue states are going to forbid any of their citizens from using their own tax money to send their kids to good schools that they themselves pick.

Lick me Blue States. You know you want to.

Posted by: Donald Trumps Unwashed Sphincter at July 03, 2025 05:26 PM (RUWKT)

13 Oh! From CBS Sports:

Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. arrested by ICE, facing deportation: Mexican boxer accused of cartel involvement

Posted by: Crusader at July 03, 2025 05:26 PM (TN0g+)

14 Too late for me even if my blue state would have approved it as my last daughter will be a senior in private school this fall. But it still should be done even if I missed out.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 03, 2025 05:26 PM (rvwwT)

15 That's weird, I thought dims were all about choice.

Posted by: Darth Randall at July 03, 2025 05:26 PM (fySHb)

16 The Democrat-hired, John-Thune-permitted Senate Parlimentarian ruled that the provision to provide tax credits for private school was not a purely fiscal matter

Thune preemptively surrendering to this unelected, partisan hack vexed me.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at July 03, 2025 05:27 PM (Rlk99)

17 States like NY have completely subverted The Bill
Of Rights. I’m sure their residents don’t give a fig. People who can leave are leaving. Theft is really nothing to hang around for.

Posted by: Donald Trumps Unwashed Sphincter at July 03, 2025 05:27 PM (RUWKT)

18 More from #13 above:

The Department of Homeland Security announced Thursday that Mexican boxer Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. has been arrested by ICE and is facing deportation on charges of being in the U.S. illegally as a fugitive from justice in Mexico, where officials say he has an active arrest warrant for his involvement in organized crime as an affiliate of the Sinaloa Cartel.

Posted by: Crusader at July 03, 2025 05:27 PM (TN0g+)

19 15 That's weird, I thought dims were all about choice.
Posted by: Darth Randall at July 03, 2025 05:26 PM (fySHb)

Only for the safe, legal, and rare disposal of pregnancy tissue...

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 03, 2025 05:27 PM (PiwSw)

20 In my school days, 1 teacher had slightly over 30 students, no aides.

Posted by: Skip at July 03, 2025 05:28 PM (+qU29)

21 In other words: All of the blue states are going to forbid any of their citizens from using their own tax money to send their kids to good schools that they themselves pick.

I don't really mind this. It's Federalism at work. If the blue state voters don't like it they can change it.

Posted by: toby928 at July 03, 2025 05:28 PM (jc0TO)

22 The parliamentarian is a double edged sword. But she can be overruled by a majority of senators. What you saw was mostly an effort by Republicans to avoid that. Don’t forget Republicans won’t be in charge forever. Once you abuse that rule turnabout is sure to happen. My issue is that Democrats are the first one to break the rules and traditions. Then they beat us with it.

Posted by: Donald Trumps Unwashed Sphincter at July 03, 2025 05:29 PM (RUWKT)

23 Your heroes of both Houses have had a very tiring week so...

Leading Report @LeadingReport 7m
BREAKING: House of Representatives cancels all votes for next week.
Posted by: andycanuck at July 03, 2025 04:40 PM (2yoRf)

So the country and our wallets are safe for a week???
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan
===

But not go on "Recess".

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 03, 2025 05:29 PM (/lPRQ)

24 > Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.

Ironic, since the "real" Cesar Chavez (the famous one) was born in Arizona, served in the Navy in WWII (enlisted, not drafted), and fucking HATED illegal aliens.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 03, 2025 05:29 PM (qpyNK)

25 >>And if not: F**k 'em. Let the blue states burn to the ground.

What did I ever do to you?

You ain't harshing my buzz today. We just steamrolled the left after taking out Iran's nuclear program that has haunted us for 40+ years, yea that happened ho hum, and my little company got our biggest US order to date.

When I look in the mirror today Brad Pitt looks back and me and says "Damn, you are good looking!".

Hater.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2025 05:29 PM (viF8m)

26 Look at Hochul, if you dare. She screams stupid.

Posted by: Donald Trumps Unwashed Sphincter at July 03, 2025 05:30 PM (RUWKT)

27 When I look in the mirror today Brad Pitt looks back and me and says "Damn, you are good looking!".

Hater.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2025 05:29 PM (viF8m)

Woah Jack..... put the bong down.

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 03, 2025 05:31 PM (MGB5H)

28 >The teachers unions have a couple of truly disgusting imperatives, but the most sacred of them is having a monopoly on teaching children.

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don't forget union dues ending up in the DNC's war chest

Posted by: Don Black at July 03, 2025 05:31 PM (AOsQT)

29 Of course they did with teachers unions screaming at them to do it. Teachers unions are the reason education is a a low point in the country. They don't give a shit about education.

Posted by: Case at July 03, 2025 05:31 PM (ilX37)

30 Teachers are there to push Cultural Marxism, change kids to Trannies against their families, against the country and religion. Nothing else

Posted by: Skip at July 03, 2025 05:31 PM (+qU29)

31 BTW who does Hochul’s makeup, a mortician?

Posted by: Donald Trumps Unwashed Sphincter at July 03, 2025 05:32 PM (RUWKT)

32 Hochul the Yokel is one of these women who thinks that, when makeup stops working, the answer is to apply a thicker layer.

Hers stopped working a few decades ago, I reckon.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 03, 2025 05:32 PM (qpyNK)

33 Won't Somebody Think About The Children!!??!
Posted by: garrett at July 03, 2025 05:24 PM (T4A2M)

Sigh

We think about them all the time.

Posted by: Public Skool Perverts at July 03, 2025 05:32 PM (0eaVi)

34 This is a truly two tiered system.

The rich send their kids to private schools or live in areas with excellent public schools, in multi million dollar homes.

Everyone else sends their kids to failing public schools.

Unless parents bust their asses to send their kids to private schools, kids are doomed.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 03, 2025 05:32 PM (7jhbw)

35 BTW who does Hochul’s makeup, a mortician?
Posted by: Donald Trumps Unwashed Sphincter at July 03, 2025 05:32 PM (RUWKT)

Homer's makeup gun set to "whore".

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 03, 2025 05:32 PM (MGB5H)

36 ‘propel the nationwide growth of private school choice, a largely conservative and Christian movement’

That’s not true. Most charter and school-choice initiatives even in blue areas are aimed at minority and underprivileged kids.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 03, 2025 05:32 PM (TgXbf)

37 I don't really mind this. It's Federalism at work. If the blue state voters don't like it they can ~~change it~~ pretend their mail-in ballot is counted fairly along with all the other registrations matched against the Motor-Votor act rolls.

Data Republican and Mike Benz both came out with some data showing that the NEA is playing footsies with and funding all the right NGOs and in ways that help "regime change" abroad

Posted by: Kindltot at July 03, 2025 05:33 PM (D7oie)

38 >>Woah Jack..... put the bong down.

Don't be a hater.

Hate the game not the player.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2025 05:33 PM (viF8m)

39 I don't mind (for now) that this will only be adopted by Red States.

Imagine the object lesson when the dumb rednecks in Mississippi have more National Merit Scholars per capita than the enlightened "liberals" produce in New York state.

Further, this should encourage more net migration of intact nuclear families that care about their children to Red States. Which is certainly a cohort the helps our states and their absence further harms the Blue States.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 03, 2025 05:33 PM (HlyYF)

40 When I look in the mirror today Brad Pitt looks back and me and says "Damn, you are good looking!".

Hater.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2025 05:29 PM (viF8m)
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The yacht girls are going to be lining up?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 03, 2025 05:33 PM (tT6L1)

41 This will be destroyed by families that have access to school choice in some states while their cousins get stuck in blue ones.

The blue cousins will declare living with their aunts and uncles to go across state lines for better schools.

Give it a couple of years to work out.

Posted by: DanMan at July 03, 2025 05:34 PM (8uzBS)

42 "Unless parents bust their asses to send their kids to private schools, kids are doomed.
Posted by: nurse ratched "

Or home school. Which may be the best possible thing you can do for your child.

Posted by: fd at July 03, 2025 05:34 PM (vFG9F)

43 Hochul’s one of those people who has to think about her breakfast order for five minutes, even though she gets the same thing every day. She thinks extemporaneous is a city in Ohio. What a dunce.

Posted by: Donald Trumps Unwashed Sphincter at July 03, 2025 05:34 PM (RUWKT)

44 Imagine the object lesson when the dumb rednecks in Mississippi have more National Merit Scholars per capita than the enlightened "liberals" produce in New York state.

Further, this should encourage more net migration of intact nuclear families that care about their children to Red States. Which is certainly a cohort the helps our states and their absence further harms the Blue States.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 03, 2025 05:33 PM (HlyYF)

And then we can build the wall on the Mason/Dixon!

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 03, 2025 05:34 PM (MGB5H)

45 Hochul the Yokel is one of these women who thinks that, when makeup stops working, the answer is to apply a thicker layer.

Hers stopped working a few decades ago, I reckon.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

I know, right?

Posted by: Zombie Tammy Faye Bakker at July 03, 2025 05:35 PM (Rlk99)

46 SBRs and suppressor have a tax of $0 in the new bill. So I am wondering how you get a tax stamp without paying a tax.
Posted by: toby928 at July 03, 2025 05:25 PM (jc0TO)

Forever stamps?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 03, 2025 05:35 PM (0eaVi)

47 And then we can build the wall on the Mason/Dixon!
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 03, 2025 05:34 PM

The North will build it, to keep their citizens in.

Posted by: toby928 at July 03, 2025 05:35 PM (jc0TO)

48 10 SBRs and suppressor have a tax of $0 in the new bill. So I am wondering how you get a tax stamp without paying a tax.

Posted by: toby928 at July 03, 2025 05:25 PM

I am sure that SC Justice Roberts will have no problem whatsoever threading that particular "tax" needle.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 03, 2025 05:36 PM (HlyYF)

49 And then we can build the wall on the Mason/Dixon!
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 03, 2025 05:34 PM

The North will build it, to keep their citizens in.
Posted by: toby928 at July 03, 2025 05:35 PM (jc0TO)

Even better

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 03, 2025 05:36 PM (MGB5H)

50 > Posted by: Zombie Tammy Faye Bakker at July 03, 2025 05:35 PM (Rlk99)

Q. Why is Tammy Faye's face like a ski slope?
A. 36 inches of base, 10 inches of powder.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 03, 2025 05:36 PM (qpyNK)

51 Hochul’s one of those people who has to think about her breakfast order for five minutes...
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Lol, now you've found one of my annoyances!

Posted by: Crusader at July 03, 2025 05:36 PM (TN0g+)

52 The tax stamp without tax is just straight up registration.

Posted by: toby928 at July 03, 2025 05:36 PM (jc0TO)

53 >> Hate the game not the player.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2025 05:33 PM (viF8m)

Even if the player is a four-foot, balding fat guy who smells like yesterdays fish and stale beer, with the stains on his T-shirt to match

Posted by: Donald Trumps Unwashed Sphincter at July 03, 2025 05:37 PM (RUWKT)

54 > SBRs and suppressor have a tax of $0 in the new bill.

Ah, so that made it in. Good. How about SBS?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 03, 2025 05:37 PM (qpyNK)

55 >>The yacht girls are going to be lining up?

I'm buying one of those Take A Number machines.

And stop calling me, Brad. Get your own girls.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2025 05:37 PM (viF8m)

56 14 Too late for me even if my blue state would have approved it as my last daughter will be a senior in private school this fall. But it still should be done even if I missed out.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 03, 2025 05:26 PM (rvwwT)

Me too! Sent both kids (boys) to Catholic schools all the way. As an added cruelty bonus, high school was 'all boy'.

Ended up with a Ph D scientist and a Mech. Eng.

YMMV

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at July 03, 2025 05:37 PM (YGGq1)

57 Dems like to keep the youngins stupid and dependent. Make the factory schools produce crap and votes, while the teachers/administrators make bank

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 03, 2025 05:37 PM (2G3gH)

58
Thune sucks the Parliamentarians dick. ... again

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 03, 2025 05:37 PM (L5Ij1)

59 54 > SBRs and suppressor have a tax of $0 in the new bill.

Ah, so that made it in. Good. How about SBS?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 03, 2025 05:37 PM (qpyNK)

Same. Still have to fill out form and get added to registry, but no fee

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 03, 2025 05:38 PM (xcxpd)

60 I'm all on board with letting the Blue Staes commit educational suicide.(And heck,I'm in a blue state right now.)

This actually is even sweeter than Ace describes it:

With the new provision, federal tax dollars will be used to fund school choice in Red States only. What that means is that Blue State taxpayers will be funding Red State educational excellence. Bwahahaha!

Meanwhile, Blue States will be bled dry with the money going only to Red States -- a one-way redistribution of wealth from blue to red.

Doubl;e Bwahahaha!

Don't like it, you blue stateso-called parents? Well you can opt in if you want, thereby handing conservatives a nationwide educatronal revoiution, preventing even Biue State children from being brainwashed anymore.

TRIPLE Bwahahaha!

Posted by: zombie at July 03, 2025 05:38 PM (pMi6S)

61 42 "Unless parents bust their asses to send their kids to private schools, kids are doomed.
Posted by: nurse ratched "

Or home school. Which may be the best possible thing you can do for your child.
Posted by: fd

That’s not an option for a lot of parents.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 03, 2025 05:38 PM (Cl1kQ)

62 I'm buying one of those Take A Number machines.

And stop calling me, Brad. Get your own girls.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2025 05:37 PM (viF8m)
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Why would I call you Brad? You're named after a car some gal loved then wrecked?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 03, 2025 05:38 PM (tT6L1)

63 Leaders of blue states would have to explain to their citizens why they rejected free federal education dollars, instead leaving all that money for red states," said Wolf. "That's a tough sell.

Did anyone listen to Dial-up Democrat and his "Record Setting" Magic Minute?

"Leaders" like him never explain anything, they just throw hyperbolic pejoratives, over-the-top lies and violent hate speech. Many, who don't have much vocabulary skill will just curse and scream "Nazi" and "Fascist".

They only shriek, slander and accuse to a national audience, in private they only pander to their donors and sponsors.

Vile, human filth that keep getting installed because the Party Machine controls their so-called "Sacred Democracy".

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 03, 2025 05:39 PM (a4flb)

64 This is a truly two tiered system.

The rich send their kids to private schools or live in areas with excellent public schools, in multi million dollar homes.

Everyone else sends their kids to failing public schools.

Unless parents bust their asses to send their kids to private schools, kids are doomed.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 03, 2025 05:32 PM (7jhbw)

Educating the serfs is always a bad idea. They start to think that they can become your equal. *delicate shudder* -- rich leftist (in their mind)

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 03, 2025 05:39 PM (ExV1e)

65 > 31 BTW who does Hochul’s makeup, a mortician?
Posted by: Donald Trumps Unwashed Sphincter at July 03, 2025 05:32 PM (RUWKT)

I think she and Witchmer share the same MUA.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 03, 2025 05:39 PM (qpyNK)

66 ""And if not: F**k 'em. Let the blue states burn to the ground.""

Aw geez Ace - that hurts....

And the weather is so nice here......

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at July 03, 2025 05:39 PM (YGGq1)

67 >>The North will build it, to keep their citizens in.

We already know how to make barbeque.

You serve no purpose anymore.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2025 05:39 PM (viF8m)

68 Next they need to ditch the registry. I wonder if that was created by NFA or the ATF decided to do it. Of the latter, the ATF can get rid of it without Congress. Otherwise it need to ge t eliminated through regular order.

Posted by: Donald Trumps Unwashed Sphincter at July 03, 2025 05:39 PM (RUWKT)

69 59 54 > SBRs and suppressor have a tax of $0 in the new bill.

Ah, so that made it in. Good. How about SBS?
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But your still have to do the paperwork so is it really a win?
BATF says, gotcha.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 03, 2025 05:39 PM (L5Ij1)

70 How about SBS?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 03, 2025 05:37 PM

9 (a) TRANSFER TAX.—Section 5811(a) is amended to
10 read as follows:
11 ‘‘(a) RATE.—There shall be levied, collected, and paid
12 on firearms transferred a tax at the rate of—
13 ‘‘(1) $200 for each firearm transferred in the
14 case of a machinegun or a destructive device, and
15 ‘‘(2) $0 for any firearm transferred which is
16 not described in paragraph (1).’’

Posted by: toby928 at July 03, 2025 05:40 PM (jc0TO)

71 > Same. Still have to fill out form and get added to registry, but no fee
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 03, 2025 05:38 PM (xcxpd)

Nice!

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 03, 2025 05:40 PM (qpyNK)

72 What about the ruling on sawed off shotguns for home defense?

Are they allowed?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 03, 2025 05:40 PM (L5Ij1)

73 >>Woah Jack..... put the bong down.

Don't be a hater.

Hate the game not the player.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2025 05:33 PM (viF8m)

I hate the game where Jackstraw has a naked Brad Pitt behind him in the bathroom whispering sweet nothings in his ear.

Better?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 03, 2025 05:40 PM (i24o9)

74 Still sounds infringy to me. But baby steps...

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 03, 2025 05:40 PM (PiwSw)

75 Re: no House votes next week.
My rep Tim Burchett filmed himself talking about his vote on the BBB bill. He said he had a hour and a half of sleep. Probably all worn out.

Posted by: Jmel at July 03, 2025 05:40 PM (bVhJi)

76 When I look in the mirror today Brad Pitt looks back and me and says "Damn, you are good looking!".
JackStraw

I've been here 20 years and in my mind you have always been a handsome man that I wish ... never mind.
Be happy today, Jack Straw! and, enjoy Independence Day!

Posted by: old chick at July 03, 2025 05:41 PM (F3Dlr)

77 I think the education system in the US is FUBAR regardless of the public/private divide. You've got radicalized teachers on both sides. There may be small windows of hope, but the difference in mentality that takes someone from teaching to indoctrinating is very, very thin. Religious or otherwise.

YMMV

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 03, 2025 05:41 PM (Q4IgG)

78 52 The tax stamp without tax is just straight up registration.

it's a tax!

Posted by: john roberts at July 03, 2025 05:42 PM (edU/H)

79 We’re gonna nitpick things in the BBB that coulda been better? Guys, take the fucking win. Today was a good day. Tomorrow is America’s birthday. I’m good, I’m happy, the mirror on the wall tells me I’m better looking than JackStraw. Life is good.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 03, 2025 05:42 PM (TgXbf)

80 17 (b) MAKING TAX.—Section 5821(a) is amended to
18 read as follows:
19 ‘‘(a) RATE.—There shall be levied, collected, and paid
20 upon the making of a firearm a tax at the rate of—
21 ‘‘(1) $200 for each firearm made in the case of
22 a machinegun or a destructive device, and
23 ‘‘(2) $0 for any firearm made which is not de-
24 scribed in paragraph (1).’’.

Form 1 here I come.

Posted by: toby928 at July 03, 2025 05:42 PM (jc0TO)

81 >>I hate the game where Jackstraw has a naked Brad Pitt behind him in the bathroom whispering sweet nothings in his ear.

Naked? You see a naked Brad Pitt in your imagination.

Some of you have serious issues.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2025 05:42 PM (viF8m)

82 67 >>The North will build it, to keep their citizens in.

We already know how to make barbeque.

You serve no purpose anymore.
Posted by: JackStraw
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So, the locusts will now stay above the line?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 03, 2025 05:42 PM (L5Ij1)

83 Skr Johnson has really gone up, in my estimation. For someone who comes across as sort of a milquetoast, he managed to get a bill passed with no help from Democrats and an almost non existent GOP margin.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 03, 2025 05:43 PM (tT6L1)

84 instead leaving all that money for red states," said Wolf. "That's a festive little hat"

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 03, 2025 05:43 PM (NLPXF)

85 When I look in the mirror today Brad Pitt looks back and me and says "Damn, you are good looking!".
JackStraw

I've been here 20 years and in my mind you have always been a handsome man that I wish ... never mind.
Be happy today, Jack Straw! and, enjoy Independence Day!
Posted by: old chick at July 03, 2025 05:41 PM

I picture him as Don Johnson as Sonny Crockett.

Posted by: toby928 at July 03, 2025 05:44 PM (jc0TO)

86 > 74 Still sounds infringy to me. But baby steps...
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 03, 2025 05:40 PM (PiwSw)

Indeed.

We've come a very long way. Doesn't mean the journey's over.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 03, 2025 05:44 PM (qpyNK)

87 83 Skr Johnson has really gone up, in my estimation. For someone who comes across as sort of a milquetoast, he managed to get a bill passed with no help from Democrats and an almost non existent GOP margin.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 03, 2025 05:43 PM (tT6L1)

Just like pro Quarterbacks, the most important measure of their skill is, "Can you win the big game?"

Johnson just won a real Big Game.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 03, 2025 05:45 PM (uWKK8)

88 Thune sucks the Parliamentarians dick. ... again

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 03, 2025 05:37 PM (L5Ij1)

It's possible that Thune knew he was rolling the dice when he re-added provisions on the sly. Assuming that's the case, he probably felt that removing federal Medicaid dollars from illegals was the big win.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 03, 2025 05:45 PM (ExV1e)

89 Natural linen jacket over a wifebeater.

Posted by: toby928 at July 03, 2025 05:45 PM (jc0TO)

90 Someone remind me what the cutoff is for "destructive device"?

I seem to remember that (besides bombs and such) it's anything larger than .50 cal?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 03, 2025 05:45 PM (qpyNK)

91 Blue states got their SALT deduction increased but, they're also going to be funding red state education.

Haha.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 03, 2025 05:46 PM (tT6L1)

92 Skr Johnson has really gone up, in my estimation. For someone who comes across as sort of a milquetoast, he managed to get a bill passed with no help from Democrats and an almost non existent GOP margin.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 03, 2025 05:43 PM (tT6L1)

Just like pro Quarterbacks, the most important measure of their skill is, "Can you win the big game?"

Johnson just won a real Big Game.
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So Speaker Johnson is Eli Manning?

Posted by: Crusader at July 03, 2025 05:47 PM (TN0g+)

93 Someone remind me what the cutoff is for "destructive device"?

I seem to remember that (besides bombs and such) it's anything larger than .50 cal?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 03, 2025 05:45 PM (qpyNK)
———

‘The Paolo, he how you say — oh, never mind’

— The Paolo

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 03, 2025 05:47 PM (TgXbf)

94 Unless parents bust their asses to send their kids to private schools, kids are doomed.

But the Republicans are "Greedy" because the Democrats are denying their own alleged constituents a tax break.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 03, 2025 05:47 PM (a4flb)

95 Did anyone listen to Dial-up Democrat and his "Record Setting" Magic Minute?

"Leaders" like him never explain anything, they just throw hyperbolic pejoratives, over-the-top lies and violent hate speech. Many, who don't have much vocabulary skill will just curse and scream "Nazi" and "Fascist".

They only shriek, slander and accuse to a national audience, in private they only pander to their donors and sponsors.

Vile, human filth that keep getting installed because the Party Machine controls their so-called "Sacred Democracy".
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 03, 2025 05:39 PM (a4flb)

When it stops working they'll stop doing it.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 03, 2025 05:47 PM (ExV1e)

96 I wonder if AOWs are $0 now. My reading says yes!

Alas, sword canes are forbidden in Alabama.

Posted by: toby928 at July 03, 2025 05:47 PM (jc0TO)

97 Blue states got their SALT deduction increased but, they're also going to be funding red state education.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 03, 2025 05:46 PM (tT6L1)

That's a nice argument to take to reluctant blue states.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 03, 2025 05:48 PM (i24o9)

98 52 The tax stamp without tax is just straight up registration.

Did you think the tax stamp with tax wasn’t registration?

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 03, 2025 05:48 PM (jTgrB)

99 >>I've been here 20 years and in my mind you have always been a handsome man that I wish ... never mind.
Be happy today, Jack Straw! and, enjoy Independence Day!

Right back at you!

I hope you and all morons have a wonderful Indendence Day. Let's take our country back and give the next generations an even greater USA than we had.

Winning is good. Celebrate it.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2025 05:48 PM (viF8m)

100 Alas, sword canes are forbidden in Alabama.
Posted by: toby928 at July 03, 2025 05:47 PM (jc0TO)

Just carry a sword.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 03, 2025 05:48 PM (0eaVi)

101 The new pravda seems to be that only "billionaires" are benefiting from the BBB tax cuts.

Funny, I don't recall that I've ever known any waiters, bartenders, or seniors on Social Security who qualified as "billionaires".

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 03, 2025 05:48 PM (qpyNK)

102 "All of the blue states are going to forbid any of their citizens from using their own tax money to [in form of the a school choice tax credit] to send their kids to good schools that they themselves pick. Why? To protect the teachers union failure factories, of course."

Clearly a feature and not a bug. More winning even if it is unintentional.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 03, 2025 05:49 PM (NXz8h)

103 When they end SALT, that will be a good day

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2025 05:49 PM (dfIr7)

104 OK, the BBB has many flaws, but stripping Planned Abortions of hundreds of millions of dollars is fabulous. I'm seeing some reports say they're going to have to shut down 200 facilities.

This is fantastic news and I'm going to buy myself a Prime ribeye and feast on it tonight.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 03, 2025 05:50 PM (lIio7)

105 My rep Tim Burchett filmed himself talking about his vote on the BBB bill. He said he had a hour and a half of sleep. Probably all worn out.
Posted by: Jmel at July 03, 2025 05:40 PM (bVhJi)

Didn't the Dem dipshit talk for 8 hours or so? Could have grabbed some sleep in their offices.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 03, 2025 05:50 PM (ExV1e)

106 101 The new pravda seems to be that only "billionaires" are benefiting from the BBB tax cuts.

Funny, I don't recall that I've ever known any waiters, bartenders, or seniors on Social Security who qualified as "billionaires".

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 03, 2025 05:48 PM (qpyNK)

It's comical how worn out the Democrat's lines are. They've been using that one since Reagan's term. They really have not had an original thought in at least 80 years.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 03, 2025 05:50 PM (uWKK8)

107 > 103 When they end SALT, that will be a good day
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2025 05:49 PM (dfIr7)

Yes. That shouldn't even be a thing.

If your state wants to have outrageous taxes, fine, but the other states shouldn't have to subsidize it.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 03, 2025 05:50 PM (qpyNK)

108 Hey Hey!, Ho Ho!, School Choice has got to go!

Hey Hey! Ho Ho!

Posted by: Dirty Old Boomer Hippie Who Loves A Good Chant at July 03, 2025 05:50 PM (R/m4+)

109 This can't be correct. Mike Johnson stated after it passed that it includes school choice.

Posted by: James at July 03, 2025 05:50 PM (NmPE2)

110 In other words: All of the blue states are going to forbid any of their citizens from using their own tax money to send their kids to good schools that they themselves pick.

Why? To protect the teachers union failure factories, of course. The teachers unions have a couple of truly disgusting imperatives, but the most sacred of them is having a monopoly on teaching children. They know if parents have any other choice, they'll flee the teachers union monopoly.

But maybe blue state voters will get angry enough when they see red state parents choosing their own schools that they'll demand that blue states opt in to the program, too.
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And so it continues.

The best public schools in PA do not want to deal with illegals w/parents, guardians who need ESL classes &/or more substantial help in order to assist in their children's education; those 'different' children who might bump their child's place in certain sports, art programs; the White trash 'appearing' parents & guardians w/several children - but no school vouchers for them!

Broad + Liberty, Beth Ann Rosica: Billions in reserves, fewer students, falling scores — and Shapiro wants more,
June 27, 2025

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 03, 2025 05:51 PM (NFX2v)

111 98 52 The tax stamp without tax is just straight up registration.

Did you think the tax stamp with tax wasn’t registration?
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit a
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Registration is the burr.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 03, 2025 05:51 PM (L5Ij1)

112 I picture him as Don Johnson as Sonny Crockett.
Posted by: toby928

yes. and in my mind, aging gracefully.

Happy people age well. They don't project every single woe that may come to pass on their face.

Posted by: old chick at July 03, 2025 05:51 PM (F3Dlr)

113 21 In other words: All of the blue states are going to forbid any of their citizens from using their own tax money to send their kids to good schools that they themselves pick.

I don't really mind this. It's Federalism at work. If the blue state voters don't like it they can change it.
Posted by: toby928 at July 03, 2025 05:28 PM (jc0TO)
_________________________________

It's going to work out much worse for the Blue states. Because, those students and parents who actually value an education (they exist) aren't going to wait around for their state to wake up. They're going to move to a Red state. This isn't just a convenience or an afterthought. These are the good students. The ones who care and value education. The motivated ones who want to escape the hood.

All that will be left in the Blue states are the dregs of society.

Posted by: Orson at July 03, 2025 05:51 PM (dIske)

114 >>I picture him as Don Johnson as Sonny Crockett.

Well let me disabuse of that notion. I look like Quasimodo's uglier brother.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2025 05:51 PM (viF8m)

115 I ran across some chatter which suggested the tax stamp issue for SBR's and suppressors was handled the way it was due to the fear some states deciding to ban suppressors and SBR's entirely.

I didn't read all the ins and outs, just ran across something which mentioned it.

Grain of salt and all that.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 03, 2025 05:51 PM (tT6L1)

116 The public education system in the US is zillion times worse than most people realize it is.

One of my most additive online sites aside from AoS is the "Teachers" subreddit on Reddit -- where 2 millions teachers commiserate on just how awful things have become.

And keepmin mind that 90+%of the teachers commenting there are hardcore woke "progressives." Even so, the overall consensus is that:

-- It is no longer possible for any student to learn anything in any classroom anymore. There are endless disruptions, the curriculum is shit, the administration cters to the most dysfunctional students,and it's only getting worse every year.

-- Students are rude, abusive, disrespectful, violent, and disinterested -- and it is illegal to punish them in any way, and not allowed to fail them or expel them.

---The curriculum is a chaotic mishmash of "worst practices," mandating the worst techniques, the worst ideas, the worst topics. Even if the kids did pay attention, they still wouldn;'t learn anything.

-- School admins reward students for misbehavior.Cut class regularly? They will bribe you with money to attend class once or twice. Etc. etc. etc.

Posted by: zombie at July 03, 2025 05:52 PM (pMi6S)

117 Speaker Johnson will never get pantsed on his way to House floor ever again.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 03, 2025 05:52 PM (NXz8h)

118 All that will be left in the Blue states are the dregs of society.
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Hey, you know we're standing right here, right?

Posted by: Most of Atlanta at July 03, 2025 05:53 PM (TN0g+)

119 ran across some chatter which suggested the tax stamp issue for SBR's and suppressors was handled the way it was due to the fear some states deciding to ban suppressors and SBR's entirely.

I didn't read all the ins and outs, just ran across something which mentioned it.

Grain of salt and all that.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 03, 2025 05:51 PM (tT6L1)

I've also seen that doing it this way will increase ownership and move them into the "widely owned" category which gives them another legal branch to stand on.

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 03, 2025 05:53 PM (MGB5H)

120 The new pravda seems to be that only "billionaires" are benefiting from the BBB tax cuts.

Yeah that one makes me giggle. I get it, that plays well with your base and fundraising but... is so hilariously false. You know those tax cuts we got a while back? They were all about to expire. That's what they think are calling tax cuts. The failure to raise taxes. Which are almost exclusively on the middle class.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2025 05:53 PM (dfIr7)

121 > Alas, sword canes are forbidden in Alabama.
Posted by: toby928 at July 03, 2025 05:47 PM (jc0TO)

We used to have the (at one time) standard laws about switchblades, brass knucks, sword canes, etc. here in Alaska, but shortly after we went Constitutional carry, someone pointed out that it made zero sense to outlaw brass knuckles when carrying a gun required no permit whatsoever.

Alaska always did have open carry.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 03, 2025 05:53 PM (qpyNK)

122 As noted previously, some good some not so good in the bill, but the best thing is it pisses the left off. Combine that with getting rid of the USAID slush fund and they're crying and crapping themselves . Cue Nelson Muntz on steroids

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 03, 2025 05:53 PM (2G3gH)

123 I never really cared about the fee, but does all the same nonsense regarding paperwork still necessary to buy a suppressor ?

Posted by: Maroon at July 03, 2025 05:54 PM (gktHa)

124 There's talk that the youngest voters are split. Just outta college, they're "Democratic Socialists" (== commies). In college, 18-21, they're MAGA. That crosses racial lines (although the young men are more conservative).
This may be because the teacher unions fucked them over in 2020-21.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 03, 2025 05:54 PM (yYROg)

125 I never really cared about the fee, but does all the same nonsense regarding paperwork still necessary to buy a suppressor ?
Posted by: Maroon at July 03, 2025 05:54 PM

I appears to be so.

Posted by: toby928 at July 03, 2025 05:54 PM (jc0TO)

126 The truth is Public School is a babysitting service with a Woke Angry Lesbian as Headmaster.

Posted by: jsg at July 03, 2025 05:54 PM (1l+t9)

127 I live again!

Posted by: Yyrog the Lich King at July 03, 2025 05:54 PM (yYROg)

128 I've also seen that doing it this way will increase ownership and move them into the "widely owned" category which gives them another legal branch to stand on.
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 03, 2025 05:53 PM (MGB5H)
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I think you're on to something. Baby steps.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 03, 2025 05:55 PM (tT6L1)

129 @114 JackStraw, so you look like Jerry Nadler?

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 03, 2025 05:55 PM (2G3gH)

130 62. Why would I call you Brad? You're named after a car some gal loved then wrecked?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 03, 2025 05:38 PM (tT6L1)

I remember those commercials! She was kind of a cutie.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at July 03, 2025 05:55 PM (YGGq1)

131 It's possible that Thune knew he was rolling the dice when he re-added provisions on the sly. Assuming that's the case, he probably felt that removing federal Medicaid dollars from illegals was the big win.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 03, 2025 05:45 PM (ExV1e)

If this is referring to the School Choice matter, I don't mind how it ended up. It was offered to everyone, but if it turns out that parents in States like Texas, Florida, Mississippi, etc get a big advantage over parents in blue states - well, it was the Democrats who made that choice for them. I can't cry about it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 03, 2025 05:55 PM (uWKK8)

132 I have a NFA Trust so building a SBR or suppressor is easy, and now free.

Posted by: toby928 at July 03, 2025 05:56 PM (jc0TO)

133
I've also seen that doing it this way will increase ownership and move them into the "widely owned" category which gives them another legal branch to stand on.
Posted by: BruceWayne
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Nothing's changed but the small fee.
Moving around the deck chairs and rearranged the furniture in the dining hall is all that was done.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 03, 2025 05:56 PM (L5Ij1)

134 >>JackStraw, so you look like Jerry Nadler?

I wish.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2025 05:56 PM (viF8m)

135 If kids change after graduating Cultural Marxism Seminaries into Maga their brainwashing didn't work.

Posted by: Skip at July 03, 2025 05:57 PM (+qU29)

136 "Leaders of blue states would have to explain to their citizens why they rejected free festive little hats."

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 03, 2025 05:57 PM (NLPXF)

137 134 >>JackStraw, so you look like Jerry Nadler?

I wish.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2025 05:56 PM (viF8m)

This should be sidebarred.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 03, 2025 05:57 PM (bss/y)

138 Err, say whut now?

@cremieuxrecueil 18m
The story is here.

We caught Zohran Mamdani applying to Columbia...

As a Black man.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 03, 2025 05:58 PM (mlg/3)

139 Tammy Faye had to work twice as hard to look pretty because her husband, the bisexual, was looking at twice as many rivals.

Posted by: Yyrog the Lich King at July 03, 2025 05:58 PM (yYROg)

140 Alaska always did have open carry.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 03, 2025 05:53 PM (qpyNK)

Which explains why no humans have lived in Alaska for over 100 years.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 03, 2025 05:58 PM (ExV1e)

141 103 When they end SALT, that will be a good day
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2025 05:49 PM (dfIr7)

Yes. That shouldn't even be a thing.

If your state wants to have outrageous taxes, fine, but the other states shouldn't have to subsidize it.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

It has a highly destructive knock-on effect as it distorts housing prices. Taxes is too high? No worry, we'll just ride them off our federal income tax. And when these people move to a fiscally sounds State, meaning a red state, they come in with all that cash and drive up the cost of housing and it's the locals who who experience anal probing. Salt taxes in blue States end up getting paid for in effect by the red States. Here in Las Cruces New Mexico at least the third of the population's been here less than 10 years and they come from places like California. It has severely impacted the locals ability to buy a house or afford rent.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 03, 2025 05:58 PM (NXz8h)

142 121 > Alas, sword canes are forbidden in Alabama.
Posted by: toby928 at July 03, 2025 05:47 PM (jc0TO)

We used to have the (at one time) standard laws about switchblades, brass knucks, sword canes, etc. here in Alaska, but shortly after we went Constitutional carry, someone pointed out that it made zero sense to outlaw brass knuckles when carrying a gun required no permit whatsoever.

Alaska always did have open carry.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 03, 2025 05:53 PM (qpyNK)
_________________________

Well, as long as they let me have my trebuchet, I'm content. It's how I send my dog out to grab the newspaper.

Posted by: Orson at July 03, 2025 05:58 PM (dIske)

143 An adorable little girl has to learn for herself that jalapenos are spicy.

http://tiny.cc/b5lo001

Posted by: bonhomme at July 03, 2025 05:58 PM (lIio7)

144 All that will be left in the Blue states are the dregs of society.
Posted by: Orson

You say that like it's in the future tense.

Dude, we've already arrived there.

Posted by: zombie at July 03, 2025 05:59 PM (pMi6S)

145 I put an aos nic next to each lyric of I Love This Bar and if my mind's eye is wrong, so be it.

Posted by: old chick at July 03, 2025 05:59 PM (F3Dlr)

146 Speaker Johnson…
I guess POTUS was right to let him hang out with his crew before the inauguration.

Posted by: Jmel at July 03, 2025 05:59 PM (bVhJi)

147 The Chicago mayor, Conehead Johnson, who appears to be brain damaged , is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Chicago Teachers Union. How's that working out for the chidren?

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 03, 2025 06:00 PM (2G3gH)

148 Oh man, Spurwing is banned!

Posted by: toby928 at July 03, 2025 06:01 PM (jc0TO)

149 There's talk that the youngest voters are split. Just outta college, they're "Democratic Socialists" (== commies). In college, 18-21, they're MAGA. That crosses racial lines (although the young men are more conservative).
This may be because the teacher unions fucked them over in 2020-21.
Posted by: gKWVE at July 03, 2025 05:54 PM (yYROg)

I watched a video earlier which said that polling /spit says that female yoots are predominately leftist and male yoots are predominately MAGA. The central theme of the video was that the female yoots refused to date anyone who wasn't a leftist but they were kinda grossed out by the leftist guys.

Women hardest hit.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 03, 2025 06:01 PM (ExV1e)

150 AHAHAH, he lied just one too many times.

@cremieuxrecueil
The New York Times just reported on the story.

Using the hacked data from Columbia, we found that Zohran Mamdani claimed to be Black when he applied to Columbia.

Despite his fake race and the fact that he listed his father—a professor there—on his application, he was rejected.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 03, 2025 06:01 PM (mlg/3)

151 > I have a NFA Trust so building a SBR or suppressor is easy, and now free.

But you still have to get a form one for each suppressor you build. I'm far from expert, but from what I understand, the reasons to have an NFA trust are to put multiple trustees on it so they all can possess and use your suppressor, and to transfer it more easily upon your passing.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 03, 2025 06:03 PM (lIio7)

152 131 It's possible that Thune knew he was rolling the dice when he re-added provisions on the sly.

Thune's challenge was keeping the Democrat Republican senators from tanking the BBB plus the usual horse trading. This bill passed because of US Trump's bigger than life moment he's having in this second term.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 03, 2025 06:03 PM (NXz8h)

153 The truth is Public School is a babysitting service with a Woke Angry Lesbian as Headmaster.

Perhaps, but there is a practical side to the way it is implemented:

Your rulers are idiots and thieves, to stay in power they can't have educated population who can see their bullshit and call them out and replace them, rather the idiot rulers were promised by the Teacher Unions that the the education cartel will produce graduating classes who consider public airing of grievances and discussion to come in the form of dressing like a mendicant, adding 150+ pounds of fat, rubbing food dye in their hair and chanting "Nazi", "Fascist", and "Fuck" a lot.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 03, 2025 06:03 PM (a4flb)

154 > Oh man, Spurwing is banned!

What happened?

Posted by: bonhomme at July 03, 2025 06:03 PM (lIio7)

155 Mamdani was born in Uganda . He identified as black you rayciss

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 03, 2025 06:04 PM (2G3gH)

156 I understand, the reasons to have an NFA trust are to put multiple trustees on it so they all can possess and use your suppressor, and to transfer it more easily upon your passing.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 03, 2025 06:03 PM

Just so. And to be able to add and remove trustees without refiling.

Posted by: toby928 at July 03, 2025 06:04 PM (cQXZ0)

157 Women hardest hit.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 03, 2025 06:01 PM (ExV1e
I didn’t mean to hit you. It’s just Johnson and this damn war.

Posted by: Eromero at July 03, 2025 06:04 PM (jgmnb)

158 I Love Big Beautiful Bills!

Posted by: Sir-Trump-A-Lot at July 03, 2025 06:04 PM (i0F8b)

159 What happened?
Posted by: bonhomme at July 03, 2025 06:03 PM

Banned VPN I presume.

Posted by: toby928 at July 03, 2025 06:05 PM (cQXZ0)

160 Well yeah, ExV1e (time was, you could have taken the nic "Christine Perfect").
It is obvious to all men, even young stupid horny men (who are the stupidest of men), that leftism doesn't offer them anything. So any man who professes leftism is doing it to social-climb and/or to get pussy. Unless the man is a sociopath in which case, he's using it to be the next Lenin or Castro. Lenin and Castro were not nice men.

Posted by: Yyrog the Lich King at July 03, 2025 06:06 PM (yYROg)

161 >>I Love Big Beautiful Bills!

I like big butts. I cannot lie.

Time to prep the smoker.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2025 06:06 PM (viF8m)

162 144 All that will be left in the Blue states are the dregs of society.
Posted by: Orson

You say that like it's in the future tense.

Dude, we've already arrived there.
Posted by: zombie at July 03, 2025 05:59 PM (pMi6S)
_______________________________

There are select handful of good kids where ever you go. The truly serious ones. The ones you want in your neighborhood. They may not be plentiful in Blue states, but there are a few. And, those kids (and their family) are going to vacate a Blue state recognizing the opportunity. I support that.

Posted by: Orson at July 03, 2025 06:06 PM (dIske)

163 The central theme of the video was that the female yoots refused to date anyone who wasn't a leftist but they were kinda grossed out by the leftist guys.

Women hardest hit.

Hard to feel any pity for them.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2025 06:07 PM (dfIr7)

164 In my state starting this year the rule is:

- you first have to allow the teachers to screw up your public school so much it ends up at the bottom quarter performance, IN F*ING GEORGIA. Do you understand how bad you have to be to be in the bottom 25% in f-ing GA? Un-believable.

- you still have to subject your poor kid to multiple semesters of public failure schools before you can even apply.

- you have to be the poors. No engineers that spend all day telling marketing and managers their ideas are stupid and try harder next time please.

- it's capped at 1% of the total $$$$$ wasted on public schools.

It's basically worthless in GA. I won't even be able too touch it.

Posted by: banana Dream at July 03, 2025 06:07 PM (cduTK)

165 But you still have to get a form one for each suppressor you build.

The $400 in building a suppressed SBR bullpup .300BLK wasn't the issue (just an annoyance), its the nine months of wait and the requirement to have paperwork on you when out playing GI Joe.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 03, 2025 06:08 PM (a4flb)

166 125 I never really cared about the fee, but does all the same nonsense regarding paperwork still necessary to buy a suppressor ?
Posted by: Maroon at July 03, 2025 05:54 PM

I appears to be so.
Posted by: toby928
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Yes. Fingerprints, filing for permission and background check. Then waiting for approval. That being said, the approval delay is now about a couple of weeks if you file electronically through a dealer with the proper software.

The reason that the Parliamentarian ruled against it (wrongly I think) was that the Senate under reconciliation could reduce the tax to zero but removing the registration component meant that the intent was more changing social policy than fiscal. That violates the Byrd rule and requires 60 votes to put in. So Thune regrouped and zeroed the tax but left the registration alone for SBRs and Suppressors.

That makes the whole NFA structure shaky legally though as US v. Miller which held the NFA constitutional did so only on the basis of Congressional taxing power, not commerce clause. According to Bruen, courts must also analyze common use for regulation--this makes suppressors more so.

Posted by: whig at July 03, 2025 06:08 PM (ctrM5)

167 SBRs and suppressor have a tax of $0 in the new bill. So I am wondering how you get a tax stamp without paying a tax.

GOA is ready to file a lawsuit asking exactly that question as soon as it becomes law.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 03, 2025 06:08 PM (/y8xj)

168 F**k 'em. Let the blue states burn to the ground.

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* Muslim Commie Mondami has exploded onto the scene and into the post *

Posted by: ShainS -- Designate The Democrat Party A Domestic Terrorist Organization at July 03, 2025 06:08 PM (teRLw)

169 The $400 in building a suppressed SBR bullpup .300BLK wasn't the issue (just an annoyance), its the nine months of wait and the requirement to have paperwork on you when out playing GI Joe.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure
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Wait is now down to several weeks if you file electronically at a dealer with the right software.

Posted by: whig at July 03, 2025 06:08 PM (ctrM5)

170 GOA is ready to file a lawsuit asking exactly that question as soon as it becomes law.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 03, 2025 06:08 PM

I spent the $25 to join them the day before yesterday, just to be an indisputable party to the inevitable judgment.

Posted by: toby928 at July 03, 2025 06:10 PM (cQXZ0)

171 * Muslim Commie Mondami has exploded onto the scene and into the post * Posted by: ShainS

Likely uses Patchouli oil as a personal lubricant.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 03, 2025 06:10 PM (NXz8h)

172 141. Here in Las Cruces New Mexico at least the third of the population's been here less than 10 years and they come from places like California. It has severely impacted the locals ability to buy a house or afford rent.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 03, 2025 05:58 PM (NXz8h)

I grew up in south Florida in the 60's and 70's. Even then, housing prices being pushed up by affluent retirees from the north was talked about, along with the difficulty of pushing thru money for the schools because 'I paid school taxes in New Jersey (or wherever) I don't wanna pay them here for other people's children...'

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at July 03, 2025 06:11 PM (YGGq1)

173 Colorado Rockies win! They are no longer worse than the Cleveland Spiders!!

Posted by: Yyrog the Lich King at July 03, 2025 06:11 PM (yYROg)

174 I grew up on a church denomination that supported Christian schools, my mom was a Christian school teacher, I went to preschool in the church basement, then did K-12 at Christian schools followed by time at a Christian college. So, I fully admit to being biased in favor of school choice.

Posted by: shrugging pookysgirl at July 03, 2025 06:11 PM (Wt5PA)

175 BTW, overruling the Parliamentarian is the nuclear option. Essentially while the Senate is a continuing body with continuing rules, the majority in the Senate can choose to make a new rule exception to the general rule on the spot. Harry Reid did so for in nuking the filibuster for appellate court nominees in 2013. That led to Mitch McConnell in 2017 removing presidential nominees and all court nominees from the filibuster.

So, overruling the Parliamentarian on this matter could lead theoretically to a future Dem Pres, Senate, and House, doing something like inserting amnesty for illegals in a reconciliation bill.

Perfect example of Chesterton's Fence.

Posted by: whig at July 03, 2025 06:12 PM (ctrM5)

176 Sun came out. I'm going for a walk.

Posted by: wth at July 03, 2025 06:12 PM (v0R5T)

177 Colorado Rockies win! They are no longer worse than the Cleveland Spiders!!
Posted by: Yyrog the Lich King at

May we have a moment of solidarity with the Colorado Rockies who are on a one-game winning streak and a 20W - 67L record.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 03, 2025 06:13 PM (NXz8h)

178 I grew up on a church denomination that supported Christian schools, my mom was a Christian school teacher, I went to preschool in the church basement, then did K-12 at Christian schools followed by time at a Christian college. So, I fully admit to being biased in favor of school choice.
Posted by: shrugging pookysgirl at July 03, 2025 06:11 PM (Wt5PA)

I went to public schools. My kids went to public schools - albeit, schools in an upper middle-class area where most of the parents were engineers and the like so the school focused academics hard.

I favor school choice. If tax dollars are going to be used to fund education, they should be used to fund the student, not the system.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 03, 2025 06:14 PM (ExV1e)

179 >>> So, overruling the Parliamentarian on this matter could lead theoretically to a future Dem Pres, Senate, and House, doing something like inserting amnesty for illegals in a reconciliation bill.

Perfect example of Chesterton's Fence.
Posted by: whig at July 03, 2025 06:12 PM (ctrM5)

Yet they do crap like that all the time when they have any power and think nothing of it.

Posted by: banana Dream at July 03, 2025 06:14 PM (cduTK)

180 156 I understand, the reasons to have an NFA trust are to put multiple trustees on it so they all can possess and use your suppressor, and to transfer it more easily upon your passing.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 03, 2025 06:03 PM

Just so. And to be able to add and remove trustees without refiling.
Posted by: toby928
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Yep. Silencerco has a simple NFA trust that is only attached to one item but a more complex one really needs to have a NFA qualified attorney draft it. FWIW, I think NFA trusts can hold regular firearms in them as well which can help with issues in non free states, probate, or travel with them.

Posted by: whig at July 03, 2025 06:15 PM (ctrM5)

181 Idiot Bloomberg reporter:
Republicans continue to roll out this terrible trope about those who 'chose not to work.' Fact: 64% of non-disabled Medicaid recipients ALREADY WORK.

Sensible reply:
Sounds like we have 36% that have to get to work then. That's a big number.

Idiot Bloomberg reporters response:
I'm sure it will make little difference to you, but many of the remainder are disabled, ill or caring for dependents.

She forgot she said her original number was NON-DISABLED Medicaid recipients!

http://tiny.cc/56lo001

Posted by: bonhomme at July 03, 2025 06:15 PM (lIio7)

182 Colorado Rockies win! They are no longer worse than the Cleveland Spiders!!
Posted by: Yyrog the Lich King

Ain't close to the Savannah Bananas.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 03, 2025 06:15 PM (mlg/3)

183 Fact: 64% of non-disabled Medicaid recipients ALREADY WORK.

Why come don't they work in a job what gives them benefits? Why come they don't buy their own fucking health insurance on the Obamacare market? (I believe there are subsidies for the poor)

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 03, 2025 06:18 PM (ExV1e)

184 177 Colorado Rockies win! They are no longer worse than the Cleveland Spiders!!
Posted by: Yyrog the Lich King at

May we have a moment of solidarity with the Colorado Rockies who are on a one-game winning streak and a 20W - 67L record.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 03, 2025 06:13 PM (NXz8h)

It's like they're not even trying...

Posted by: Washington Generals at July 03, 2025 06:18 PM (1l+t9)

185 Yet they do crap like that all the time when they have any power and think nothing of it.
Posted by: banana Dream

Democrats are short term oriented toward maximum benefits now and care not about consequences later. People with short time horizons have all sorts of problems personally as well--many violate laws without thinking, are horrible at home finances, and do drugs, smoke, bad sex, etc. with little thought of tomorrow.

Many of these are Democrats because the consequences of their failures should be blamed on someone else and paid for by someone else.

Posted by: whig at July 03, 2025 06:19 PM (ctrM5)

186 Kind of like the pistol braces, the NFA Trust still has potential loopholes in it. For instance, every person on the Trust has to send in fingerprints etc for each new purchase. But, as I read it, nothing prevents you from kicking all the co-trustees off, buying a new NFA item with your fingerprints, and then adding them back on.

Posted by: toby928 at July 03, 2025 06:19 PM (cQXZ0)

187 Leftists: We should be more like Europe!

Denmark: We're banning the burqa.

Leftists: NOT LIKE THAT!

http://tiny.cc/e6lo001

Posted by: bonhomme at July 03, 2025 06:19 PM (lIio7)

188 That makes the whole NFA structure shaky legally though as US v. Miller which held the NFA constitutional did so only on the basis of Congressional taxing power, not commerce clause.

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"SCOTUS Chief Justice taxing power > Congressional taxing power"

/Future Well-Pissed-Upon Epitaph on Headstone of Benedict Roberts' Grave

Posted by: ShainS -- Designate The Democrat Party A Domestic Terrorist Organization at July 03, 2025 06:19 PM (mQpgE)

189 Nood.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 03, 2025 06:19 PM (bss/y)

190 This is how Democrats get away with their bullshit.

No Parliamentarians doesn't really have the same ring.

Posted by: ... at July 03, 2025 06:19 PM (E0p3T)

191 Zohran Mamdani, the Democrat running for mayor of New York City, was born in Uganda. He doesn’t consider himself Black but said the application didn’t allow for the complexity of his background.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 03, 2025 06:19 PM (L5Ij1)

192 Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 03, 2025 05:58 PM (NXz8h

It's the same everywhere. Benefits sellers immensely, but absolutely destroys the market for most locals.

In Europe, a similar thing happens in the touristy cities; wealthier people/ businesses buy up houses to use as Airbnbs, which in turn prices locals out and creates housing shortages, too.

I don't get the Airbnb thing, myself. Who the hell wants to cook and clean the house on vacation? Maybe if you have young children it's worth it, or are staying for months, but otherwise, half the fun of traveling for me is staying in a hotel and going out to eat.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at July 03, 2025 06:20 PM (Vvh2V)

193 It's a big break for billionaires who work a lot of overtime and for tips.

Posted by: ... at July 03, 2025 06:20 PM (E0p3T)

194 Julie Hamill calls attention to some welcome features in the BBB.

1. Congress singled out "low earning outcome" university programs and limited use of some federal funds for those programs.
2. They're taxing private university endowments.

http://tiny.cc/j6lo001

Posted by: bonhomme at July 03, 2025 06:22 PM (lIio7)

195 Why come they don't buy their own fucking health insurance on the Obamacare market? (I believe there are subsidies for the poor)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

There are. Medicaid is cheaper though than the exchange, albeit for perhaps fewer providers.

Some Medicaid expenses, not sure how much anymore, came from relatively wealthy folks dumping Grandpa or Grandma on the taxpayer by essentially looting the estate (often with their elder's approval) and then paying for nursing homes via Medicaid. That is the reason for clawback provisions on estate gifts if someone in a requiring Medicaid had assets that were given to others within a certain timeframe that could have been save for their health care. May be as high as 7 years in some states.

Posted by: whig at July 03, 2025 06:22 PM (ctrM5)

196 The Department of Homeland Security announced Thursday that Mexican boxer Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. has been arrested by ICE and is facing deportation on charges of being in the U.S. illegally as a fugitive from justice in Mexico, where officials say he has an active arrest warrant for his involvement in organized crime as an affiliate of the Sinaloa Cartel.
Posted by: Crusader at July 03, 2025 05:27 PM (TN0g+)

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Is the Mexican president going to object on his behalf?

Posted by: Decaf at July 03, 2025 06:22 PM (unUNN)

197 175 So, overruling the Parliamentarian on this matter could lead theoretically to a future Dem Pres, Senate, and House, doing something like inserting amnesty for illegals in a reconciliation bill.

Perfect example of Chesterton's Fence.
Posted by: whig at July 03, 2025 06:12 PM (ctrM5)

Remember Harry Reid nuking the filibuster for federal judges except SCOTUS. Then the R's took the Senate, Trump won and next thing you know 6-3 SC because they nuked the filibuster for the Supremes too!

unintended consequences...

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at July 03, 2025 06:23 PM (YGGq1)

198
Zohran Mamdani, the Democrat running for mayor of New York City, was born in Uganda. He doesn’t consider himself Black but said the application didn’t allow for the complexity of his background.
Posted by: Braenyard

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The lefties are already defending him by saying that Ugandan is African. But the ethnic box-checking part of the application form clearly requests ethnic info, not geographical.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 03, 2025 06:23 PM (Rrsaq)

199 For instance, every person on the Trust has to send in fingerprints etc for each new purchase

Not a lawyer, not an NFA trust member but as I understand it, that is incorrect. Each person has to get the background check when added to the trust but not for each transaction afterwards.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 03, 2025 06:23 PM (/y8xj)

200 The parliamentarian is a double edged sword. But she can be overruled by a majority of senators. What you saw was mostly an effort by Republicans to avoid that. Don’t forget Republicans won’t be in charge forever. Once you abuse that rule turnabout is sure to happen. My issue is that Democrats are the first one to break the rules and traditions. Then they beat us with it.
Posted by: Donald Trumps Unwashed Sphincter at July 03, 2025 05:29 PM (RUWKT)

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It doesn't matter what Republicans do or don't do the Democrats will use everything they have to beat them over the head with.

Posted by: Decaf at July 03, 2025 06:27 PM (unUNN)

201 Be happy today, Jack Straw! and, enjoy Independence Day!
Posted by: old chick at July 03, 2025 05:41 PM

I picture him as Don Johnson as Sonny Crockett.
Posted by: toby928 at July 03, 2025 05:44 PM (jc0TO)

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I see him more like Tommy Lee Jones.

Posted by: Decaf at July 03, 2025 06:34 PM (unUNN)

202 Be happy today, Jack Straw! and, enjoy Independence Day!
Posted by: old chick at July 03, 2025 05:41 PM

I picture him as Don Johnson as Sonny Crockett.
Posted by: toby928 at July 03, 2025 05:44 PM (jc0TO)

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I see him more like Tommy Lee Jones.
Posted by: Decaf at July 03, 2025 06:34 PM (unUNN)

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Johnny Depp in Pirates of the Caribbean -- with Keith Richards as his father.

Posted by: ShainS -- Designate The Democrat Party A Domestic Terrorist Organization at July 03, 2025 06:37 PM (iopM5)

203 Haven't set foot in a Target since they went full on Tranny support. They made their bed.

They need to fire the swampy parliamentarian. An unelected person should not have that kind of partisan power. An elected Senator should serve. Make it a freshman role to learn the ropes.

Posted by: Smellslikevictory at July 03, 2025 07:10 PM (jPdyB)

204 John F’in Thune….rhymes with Paul F’in Ryan .
Amirite?

Posted by: Voter theater. at July 03, 2025 07:42 PM (FCPbW)

205 Just got the school tax bill: $4,976.26 with the Homestead Tax reduction.

Per pupil spending over $22,000. Ranked above mid-range for economically disadvantaged. Ranked 1st for special education services offered. And why Rep. Mary Gay Scanlon marched with BLM through our town and said, Go there! (Just not her posh town.)

Next the county tax bill will be in; up 23% so the "other side" of the county could take land (200 plus acres) from the Catholic church and, no, not pay the fair, legal value. (Gotta give it to them. The land is a great buffer from the other half of the county - the unwashed - sitting next to Philly.)

Then the township's tax bill which might be steady from last year's but sewer and trash shall go up again, of course.

All this for older houses, plummeting in value once again, and towns and townships becoming unlivable for seniors.

The cockroach investors and extremely well heeled with the very best intentions (to keep those buffers in place, make fabulous $ from Section

have a chokehold.

But where to go - not in Pennsylvania - and how are the Qs.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 03, 2025 08:07 PM (NFX2v)

206 So unless Target reinstates the grift, the Congressional Black Caucus is going to tell their constituents to go and shoplift at some other retailer?

Posted by: Kasper-X-Hauser-in-Ushuaia at July 03, 2025 09:49 PM (1f+mC)

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