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James Varney: "Biden" Authorized $42 Billion In Graft to His Political "Environmental" Allies in Just the Last Two Working Days of His Potemkin Presidency

Bumped. I took the post down when the BBB vote came in.

$42 billion in two days.

$42 billion in 48 hours. Less when you consider they were only working, at most, 10 or 12 hour days.


In its last two working days, the Biden administration's Energy Department signed off on nearly $42 billion for green energy projects -- a sum that exceeded the total amount its Loan Programs Office (LPO) had put out in the past decade.

In two days, they pushed more graft to their leftwing political allies than they did, in total, over the course of ten years.


The frenzied activity on Jan. 16 and 17, 2025, capped a spending binge that saw the LPO approve at least $93 billion in current and future disbursements after Vice President Kamala Harris lost the 2024 election in November, according to documents provided by the department to RealClearInvestigations. It appears that Biden officials were rushing to deploy billions in approved funding in anticipation that the incoming Trump administration would seek to redirect uncommitted money away from clean energy projects.


The agreements were made despite a warning from the department's inspector general, urging the loan office to suspend operations in December over concerns that post-election loans could present conflicts of interest.

The Biden Crime Family specializes in conflicts of interest.


In just a few months, some of the deals have already become dicey, leading to fears that the Biden administration has created multiple Solyndras, the green energy company that went bankrupt after the Obama administration gave it $570 million. These deals include:

Sunnova, a rooftop solar outfit that thus far had $382 million of its $3.3 billion loan guaranteed, filed for bankruptcy this month. The company did not respond to a request for comment.

Li-Cycle, a battery recycling facility, had a $445 million loan approved in November, but since then, the company was put up for sale and has filed for bankruptcy. The Energy Department said no money has been disbursed on that deal. Li-Cycle did not respond to a request for comment.

A $705 million loan was approved on Jan. 17 for Zum Energy, an electric school bus company in California, and its "Project Marigold." At $350,000 and more, electric school buses currently cost more than twice as much as their diesel counterparts. So far, Zum has received $21.7 million from the government, according to usaspending.gov. The company did not respond to a request for comment.

A $9.63 billion Blue Oval SK loan on Jan. 16 was the second largest post-election deal, topped only by a $15 billion loan the next day to Pacific Gas & Electric, with most of that for renewables. The Blue Oval project in Kentucky -- a joint venture between Ford Motor Co. and a South Korean entity -- has been dealing with numerous workplace complaints, and construction of a second EV battery manufacturing plant there has been delayed. More than $7 billion has been obligated on that deal, according to the Energy Department. Blue Oval did not respond to a request for comment.

The money and the hasty way in which it was earmarked have drawn the attention of the Trump administration. "It is extremely concerning how many dozens of billions of dollars were rushed out the door without proper due diligence in the final days of the Biden administration," Energy Secretary Chris Wright said in a statement to RCI. "DOE is undertaking a thorough review of financial assistance that identifies waste of taxpayer dollars."

The enormous sums came from the 2022 Inflation Reduction Act, which injected $400 billion into the LPO, a previously sleepy Energy Department branch originally intended to spur nuclear energy projects. That total represented more than 10 times the amount the LPO had ever committed in any fiscal year of its existence. Prior to the post-election blowout, the office's biggest fiscal year was 2024, when it committed $34.8 billion, records show.

Even with the rush to push billions out the door in its last months, close to $300 billion of the Inflation Reduction Act money remains uncommitted by the LPO. Trump administration officials have already nixed some smaller deals. Secretary Wright recently urged Congress to keep the money in place as the LPO now aims to use it to further the Trump administration's energy policy, particularly with nuclear projects.

Note that this is in addition to the $20 billion graft bonanza you already know about.


That unprecedented gusher of cash from the LPO echoes the efforts of the Biden administration's Environmental Protection Agency to push $20 billion out the door before it left office. As RCI has previously reported, the EPA -- which had never been a consequential grant-making operation -- was tasked with awarding $27 billion in Inflation Reduction Act funding through the Greenhouse Gas Reduction Fund and Solar For All programs. It did so in less than six months in 2024, including an unorthodox arrangement in which Biden officials parked some $20 billion outside the Treasury's control. That money was earmarked for a handful of nonprofits, some of which had skimpy assets and were linked with politically connected directors.

Yeah I'll bet.

Read the whole thing.

Update on BBB: I think Hakeem Jeffries ended his stupid inarticulate ramblings after breaking the (meaningless, trifling) record.

I think the vote will happen soon.

JD Vance
@JDVance

GOP Congressman just texted me:

"I was undecided on the bill but then I watched Hakeem Jeffries performance and now I'm a firm yes."

Posted by: Ace at 03:39 PM




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1 Did the BBB pass?

Posted by: toby928 at July 03, 2025 02:25 PM (jc0TO)

2 Ace, I understand the BBB passed the House ....

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 02:26 PM (iFTx/)

3 $42 billion in two days.

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That's the entire yearly budget for USAID.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 02:26 PM (GBKbO)

4 2 Ace, I understand the BBB passed the House ....
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 02:26 PM (iFTx/)

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Pretty much the second he hit post on a post he wrote hours ago!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 02:26 PM (GBKbO)

5 $42 billion in two days.

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That's the entire yearly budget for USAID.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 02:26 PM (GBKbO)
______

What's a USAID?

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 02:26 PM (iFTx/)

6 Jim Varney in: Ernest Exposes the Graft

Posted by: bonhomme at July 03, 2025 02:26 PM (lIio7)

7 5 $42 billion in two days.

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That's the entire yearly budget for USAID.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 02:26 PM (GBKbO)
______

What's a USAID?
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 02:26 PM (iFTx/)

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A giant grift, designed to enrich connected cronies in DC.

But that's not important right now. We need to know if you can fly this plane.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 02:27 PM (GBKbO)

8 I think Hakeem Jeffries ended his stupid inarticulate ramblings
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Objection, assumes facts not in evidence!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 03, 2025 02:27 PM (tT6L1)

9 James Varney: "Biden" Authorized $42 Billion In Graft Payments to His Political "Environmental" Allies in Just the Last Two Working Days of His Entire Fake Presidency

After his administration was already repudiated by the voters.

Posted by: toby928 at July 03, 2025 02:27 PM (jc0TO)

10 can any of that moolah get clawed back?

argh it is frustrating

Posted by: Black Orchid at July 03, 2025 02:27 PM (Pv3Rg)

11 Ace, I understand the BBB passed the House ....

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 02:26 PM (iFTx/)

Yeah, might want to save this post for later.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 03, 2025 02:27 PM (i24o9)

12 We now cut to a live scene of Donald Trump on the White House lawn, doing the Pelvic Thrust...

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 03, 2025 02:27 PM (uWKK8)

13 Trump's Big Beautiful Bill officially has been passed.

We're all gonna get laid!

Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2025 02:27 PM (viF8m)

14 I bet I know what the next post will be.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 03, 2025 02:27 PM (ExV1e)

15 $42 billion in two days.
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We can split words on the actual charges that should apply to this (but won't), but at its core this was a betrayal.

Posted by: Crusader at July 03, 2025 02:27 PM (TN0g+)

16 Otherwise, hang them all.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 03, 2025 02:27 PM (i24o9)

17 But never did he say the word pussy. So all good.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 03, 2025 02:27 PM (nwGCR)

18 Is this the "gold bars" O'keefe found out about?

Posted by: Drunken Yoda at July 03, 2025 02:28 PM (LQv8o)

19 Not for nothing but looking at you Mike Johnson, - why do most prominent Republicans look about two drinks or a bad few hours away from a wig, a twink and show tunes.

Posted by: ... at July 03, 2025 02:28 PM (VPwHp)

20 James must really hate people calling him Jim Varney.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 03, 2025 02:28 PM (mlg/3)

21 Trump's Big Beautiful Bill officially has been passed.

We're all gonna get laid!
Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2025 02:27 PM (viF8m)
______

Or die

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 02:28 PM (iFTx/)

22 Not to worry, a Hawaiian judge will soon declare this money sacrosanct and any attempt to audit it unconstitutional, an attack on democracy, and probably fattening.

Posted by: Dr. T at July 03, 2025 02:28 PM (jGGMD)

23 $42 billion in two days.

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That's the entire yearly budget for USAID.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 02:26 PM (GBKbO)
______

What's a USAID?
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$20, same as in town.

Posted by: Crusader at July 03, 2025 02:28 PM (TN0g+)

24 Otherwise, hang them all.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 03, 2025 02:27 PM (i24o9)

Way ahead of you.

Posted by: The Paolo at July 03, 2025 02:28 PM (VPwHp)

25 $42 billion in two days.

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when its not your money....

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 03, 2025 02:29 PM (pI9a0)

26 James must really hate people calling him Jim Varney.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 03, 2025 02:28 PM (mlg/3)
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It's the people who come up to him and say, "Knowwhutahmean, Vern?"

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 03, 2025 02:29 PM (XZ5S6)

27 Trump's Big Beautiful Bill officially has been passed.

We're all gonna get laid!
Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2025 02:27 PM (viF8m)

Well we did get fucked.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 03, 2025 02:29 PM (nwGCR)

28 >>> 21 Trump's Big Beautiful Bill officially has been passed.

We're all gonna get laid!
Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2025 02:27 PM (viF8m)
______

Or die
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 02:28 PM (iFTx/)

Cheetolini is going to send all of us to "Alligator Alcatraz"!

REEEEEEE!!!!!

Posted by: DUmmies at July 03, 2025 02:29 PM (ULPxl)

29 217-214 with one NV left.

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 03, 2025 02:29 PM (2cS/G)

30 what's a shame is now BurtTC won't be able to celebrate the BBB with us (for a week)

nor can he rant about this OTHER waste of taxpayer dollars

sad

Posted by: Black Orchid at July 03, 2025 02:30 PM (Pv3Rg)

31
I wish cotton was a monkey.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 03, 2025 02:30 PM (kf346)

32 Standing 8 count on NV?

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 03, 2025 02:30 PM (Iv8wu)

33 I see very little likelihood in ultimately jailing members of the Biden crime family. But can we not at least see to it that they are denied fire, water and cocaine within the bounds of the continental United States?

Posted by: Paco at July 03, 2025 02:30 PM (mADJX)

34 >>Well we did get fucked.

What's really funny is that almost nobody knows what's in the bill.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2025 02:30 PM (viF8m)

35 OBBB just passed

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 03, 2025 02:30 PM (MGB5H)

36 It's a write off, Jerry.
They just write it off.

Posted by: Kramer at July 03, 2025 02:30 PM (WeCH6)

37 I'm waiting for Democrats to explain, during the mid terms, why they thought it was a good idea to raise taxes on everyone.

Should be amusing to see them trot out the "millionaires and billionaires" dodge and get hammered for saying that.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 03, 2025 02:30 PM (tT6L1)

38 In its last two working days, the Biden administration's Energy Department signed off on nearly $42 billion for green energy projects -- a sum that exceeded the total amount its Loan Programs Office (LPO) had put out in the past decade.

And this is why no none-emergency business should be permitted to occur betwixt election day and the seating of the new Congress / President.

I'd be willing to extend that moratorium to the time between primaries and the seating of the new Congress / President but you'd probably need to have a shorter primary window for that to work.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 03, 2025 02:31 PM (ExV1e)

39 Was it Joe or was it Autopen?

Posted by: huerfano at July 03, 2025 02:31 PM (n2swS)

40 What's really funny is that almost nobody knows what's in the bill.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2025 02:30 PM (viF8m)

Including congress.

Posted by: ... at July 03, 2025 02:31 PM (VPwHp)

41 $42 billion in two days.

----

All of the recipients of this money need to be brought in for questioning and auditing... TODAY

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 03, 2025 02:31 PM (pI9a0)

42 did Drama Mama show up and vote?

or she still hitchhiking?

Posted by: Black Orchid at July 03, 2025 02:31 PM (Pv3Rg)

43 3 $42 billion in two days.

=======

That's the entire yearly budget for USAID.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 02:26 PM (GBKbO)

Brewster's Billions

Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 03, 2025 02:31 PM (0CU3H)

44 >>> 42 did Drama Mama show up and vote?

or she still hitchhiking?
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 03, 2025 02:31 PM (Pv3Rg)

Narrow that down...?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 03, 2025 02:31 PM (ULPxl)

45 40 What's really funny is that almost nobody knows what's in the bill.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2025 02:30 PM (viF8m)

Including congress.
Posted by: ...
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With AI, I suspect that you can find out if you want. I'd start with Grok model.

Posted by: whig at July 03, 2025 02:31 PM (ctrM5)

46 What's really funny is that almost nobody knows what's in the bill.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2025 02:30 PM (viF8m)

We had to pass the bill to not know what's in it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 03, 2025 02:32 PM (uWKK8)

47 Narrow that down...?


ha ha ha Nancy Mace

Posted by: Black Orchid at July 03, 2025 02:32 PM (Pv3Rg)

48 218-214 Final.

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 03, 2025 02:32 PM (2cS/G)

49 21 Trump's Big Beautiful Bill officially has been passed.

We're all gonna get laid!
Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2025 02:27 PM (viF8m)
______

Or die
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 02:28 PM (iFTx/)

Or both!

Posted by: David Carradine at July 03, 2025 02:32 PM (0CU3H)

50 >>Including congress.

And everyone here who keeps saying this is the worst thing that's ever happened.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2025 02:32 PM (viF8m)

51 did Drama Mama show up and vote?

or she still hitchhiking?
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 03, 2025 02:31 PM (Pv3Rg)
---------------

She's currently working on the selfie "trail of tears" video.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 03, 2025 02:32 PM (tT6L1)

52 BBB passed 218-214. Two GOP defectors.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at July 03, 2025 02:32 PM (oSeBJ)

53 14 I bet I know what the next post will be.
Disney?

Posted by: Accomack at July 03, 2025 02:32 PM (Bbhox)

54 Where did they get the money? I mean did congress approve and extra 42 billion for the energy department to hand out in graft? That money had to come from somewhere.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 03, 2025 02:32 PM (e5NfL)

55 I see 'BBB' and think 'Better Business Bureau'.

(Shrugs)

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at July 03, 2025 02:32 PM (sAmhv)

56 52 BBB passed 218-214. Two GOP defectors.


Massie and who? Fitzpatrick?

Posted by: Black Orchid at July 03, 2025 02:32 PM (Pv3Rg)

57 Claw it back. Claw it all back. The Claw!

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 03, 2025 02:32 PM (wVcYX)

58 Or both!

Posted by: David Carradine at July 03, 2025 02:32 PM (0CU3H)

This place.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 03, 2025 02:33 PM (i24o9)

59 Pretty much the second he hit post on a post he wrote hours ago!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 02:26 PM (GBKbO)


Events sometimes overtake even the greatest of Ewoks.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 03, 2025 02:33 PM (ExV1e)

60 49 21 Trump's Big Beautiful Bill officially has been passed.

We're all gonna get laid!
Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2025 02:27 PM (viF8m)
______

Or die
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 02:28 PM (iFTx/)

Or both!!

Posted by: Nelson Rockefeller at July 03, 2025 02:33 PM (0CU3H)

61 Last second PAT.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 03, 2025 02:33 PM (Iv8wu)

62 So Trump is Building Back Better?

Posted by: Hunh at July 03, 2025 02:33 PM (WeCH6)

63 54 Where did they get the money? I mean did congress approve and extra 42 billion for the energy department to hand out in graft? That money had to come from somewhere.


money printers go brrrrrrr

Posted by: Jerome Powell at July 03, 2025 02:33 PM (Pv3Rg)

64 $42 billion in 48 hours.
___

Listen fat, we were going loot the treasury on the way out no matter who won. True story!

Posted by: Joe Biden at July 03, 2025 02:33 PM (Dv3i1)

65 57 Claw it back. Claw it all back. The Claw!
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 03, 2025 02:32 PM (wVcYX)

========

I seem to remember that the Trump administration did start clawing back a lot of it in the first few weeks of February.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 02:33 PM (GBKbO)

66 Did the no tax on tips stay in the bill?

Posted by: toby928 at July 03, 2025 02:34 PM (jc0TO)

67 21 Trump's Big Beautiful Bill officially has been passed.

We're all gonna get laid!
Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2025 02:27 PM (viF8m)
______

Or die
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 02:28 PM (iFTx/)

Or both!
Posted by: David Carradine at July 03, 2025 02:32 PM (0CU3H)

It's the only way to go, lemme tell ya, fellas.

Posted by: Nelson Rockefeller at July 03, 2025 02:34 PM (wVcYX)

68 I doubt Sundowner authorized a Fkin thing, Minions gave away grift to their friends and themselves. Bet lots now work for those companies

Posted by: Skip at July 03, 2025 02:34 PM (+qU29)

69 We're all gonna get laid!
Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2025 02:27 PM


Let's get pissed!

- Stuart MacKenzie

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 03, 2025 02:34 PM (Wnv9h)

70 You need more votes to get better bills.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 03, 2025 02:34 PM (Iv8wu)

71 22 Not to worry, a Hawaiian judge will soon declare this money sacrosanct and any attempt to audit it unconstitutional, an attack on democracy, and probably fattening.
Posted by: Dr. T

That judge is likely to get a Hawaiian punch from higher courts after the last Scotus ruling. The immediate stupidity of that judge claiming the whole world as a class to enjoin closing the border is likely to cause that to be stopped up too.

To misquote Churchill, "The Battle of the Judges is over; the Battle over Spending has just begun. "

Posted by: whig at July 03, 2025 02:34 PM (ctrM5)

72 66 Did the no tax on tips stay in the bill?
Posted by: toby928 at July 03, 2025 02:34 PM (jc0TO)

I'm pretty sure it did.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 03, 2025 02:34 PM (uWKK8)

73 I seem to remember that the Trump administration did start clawing back a lot of it in the first few weeks of February.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 02:33 PM (GBKbO)
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And got sued and told they needed to shovel the money out, even though it was obviously fraudulent. I guess the courts didn't mind ordering someone to do something illegal.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 03, 2025 02:34 PM (tT6L1)

74 We're all gonna get laid!
Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2025 02:27 PM (viF8m)


I'm married.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 03, 2025 02:35 PM (ExV1e)

75 66 Did the no tax on tips stay in the bill?
Posted by: toby928 at July 03, 2025 02:34 PM (jc0TO)

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Yes.

Section 70201.

pdf:

https://is.gd/kq41go

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 02:35 PM (GBKbO)

76 Massie and who? Fitzpatrick?
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 03, 2025 02:32 PM (Pv3Rg)

Yup

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 03, 2025 02:35 PM (MGB5H)

77 Back to regular order, mofos.

NOW we can draft rescission bills, which aren't permitted under CRs.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at July 03, 2025 02:35 PM (oSeBJ)

78 Again, a reconciliation bill. Threshold of 50%.
Normal budgetary process requires 60%.
They got what the could.
Also, realize this is the end of CR's.
There's a whole lot to like about this process, sausage making though it is.
Gotta hand it to Johnson so far. Now let's see if he knows how to go the the mattresses.

Posted by: MkY at July 03, 2025 02:35 PM (cPGH3)

79 It's a write off, Jerry.
They just write it off.
Posted by: Kramer at July 03, 2025 02:30 PM (WeCH6)

Never not funny.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 03, 2025 02:35 PM (wVcYX)

80 "BBB passed 218-214. Two GOP defectors."

good, now deportations can go on steroids.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 03, 2025 02:36 PM (vbXSk)

81 Where did they get the money? I mean did congress approve and extra 42 billion for the energy department to hand out in graft? That money had to come from somewhere.
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I asked a similar question when the New York governor announced she was providing $50 million to cover legal services for illegals--that's a lot of money to have sitting in a sock drawer. How do government "leaders" have the seemingly instant ability to spend vast amounts of money without seeking anyone's approval?

Posted by: Crusader at July 03, 2025 02:36 PM (TN0g+)

82 I'm assuming this sudden influx of currency into the public didn't exactly help the inflation rate at the time.

Posted by: Orson at July 03, 2025 02:36 PM (dIske)

83 50 >>Including congress.

And everyone here who keeps saying this is the worst thing that's ever happened.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2025 02:32 PM (viF8m)

The press couldn't help touting Biden's ability to get legislation through in Congress. He doesn't hold a candle to Trump.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 03, 2025 02:36 PM (0CU3H)

84 Sections 60001 to 60024 are all rescissions, I see.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 02:36 PM (GBKbO)

85 I seem to remember that the Trump administration did start clawing back a lot of it in the first few weeks of February.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

They have. It will be tied up in courts for awhile though including where most of those cases should have originated in the first place, the Federal Court of Claims which has jurisdiction over them (not federal district judges).

Posted by: whig at July 03, 2025 02:36 PM (ctrM5)

86 >>Including congress.

And everyone here who keeps saying this is the worst thing that's ever happened.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2025 02:32 PM (viF8m)


I've been too busy to research the bill much, so I don't have a strong opinion on it either way. My take: any bill that doesn't repeal the 16th and 17th Amendments is a waste of time anyway.

Posted by: Dr. T at July 03, 2025 02:36 PM (jGGMD)

87 "Even with the rush to push billions out the door in its last months, close to $300 billion of the Inflation Reduction Act money remains uncommitted by the LPO."

I'm pretty sure Green Energy Expert Stacey Abrams is supposed get most of that.

Posted by: Ripley at July 03, 2025 02:36 PM (GUOwU)

88 Just work hard, keep your nose to the grindstone, play by the rules and success is sure to follow they said.

Posted by: Lying dickheads! at July 03, 2025 02:36 PM (TbWk/)

89 Planned Parenthood just got defunded for a year.

How you like them apples?

Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2025 02:36 PM (viF8m)

90 Or both!
Posted by: David Carradine at July 03, 2025 02:32 PM (0CU3H)

It's the only way to go, lemme tell ya, fellas.
Posted by: Nelson Rockefeller

My lips are sealed.

Posted by: Megan Marshack at July 03, 2025 02:37 PM (OXFtY)

91
"I was undecided on the bill but then I watched Hakeem Jeffries performance and now I'm a firm yes

LOL Open mouth , insert foot, leg, entire torso and brain.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 03, 2025 02:37 PM (2GCMq)

92 "BBB passed 218-214. Two GOP defectors."

good, now deportations can go on steroids.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 03, 2025 02:36 PM (vbXSk)

Vamos. ¡Ándale!

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 03, 2025 02:37 PM (i24o9)

93 I need AI to explain this bill.

Posted by: toby928 at July 03, 2025 02:37 PM (jc0TO)

94 To misquote Churchill, "The Battle of the Judges is over; the Battle over Spending has just begun. "
Posted by: whig at July 03, 2025 02:34 PM (ctrM5)


*glares*

Posted by: Gandalf at July 03, 2025 02:37 PM (jGGMD)

95 We're not taking the Irish anyway, Fitzpatrick.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 03, 2025 02:37 PM (Iv8wu)

96 We're going to have days of fun looking at all the implications of what just happened. One that just occurred to me is that it's going to make the Dem faithful hate their so-called leaders more than ever.
Everyone loves a winner, and everyone hates a pack of whiny losers.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 03, 2025 02:38 PM (uWKK8)

97 And everyone here who keeps saying this is the worst thing that's ever happened.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2025 02:32 PM (viF8m)

That's probably like nine people at most and one went a little loopy this morning.

It's a bill. It's a piece of shit. Trump will get some wins for us out of it. He had to pay to get those wins, but it's not the first time he had to pay a whore.

They're going to continue to spend us into oblivion, but that's happening no matter what. I'm grateful the tax "cut" stays. That will matter.

Posted by: ... at July 03, 2025 02:38 PM (VPwHp)

98 93 I need AI to explain this bill.
Posted by: toby928 at July 03, 2025 02:37 PM (jc0TO)

======

Use this link for the pdf:

https://is.gd/kq41go

Ask grok or ChatGPT or CoPilot or whatever questions.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 02:38 PM (GBKbO)

99 Including congress.
Posted by: ... at July 03, 2025 02:31 PM (VPwHp)


Congress never knows what's in the shit they vote on. They should just send boxes of Alpha-Bits to the WH and explain that the Administration will find something in it.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 03, 2025 02:38 PM (ExV1e)

100 It is indescribable but, just how much of the left's power has been from dispiriting conservatives and normal Americans?

Running down America?

Making pride in America, being an American ... shameful?

And Trump is bringing that back.

Bigly.

Like in the 80s, we felt like we could do anything. But the Dems have convinced so many we must settle for--and fight over!--scraps doled out by them.

I don't think we understand just how much that was crushing America.
Or just how much bringing it back will crush Democrats.
USA! USA! USA!

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 03, 2025 02:38 PM (1KSDN)

101 93 I need AI to explain this bill.
Posted by: toby928


The BBB really implies Bend Over Here It Comes Again (BOHICA)

Posted by: AI at July 03, 2025 02:39 PM (/U5Yz)

102 They have. It will be tied up in courts for awhile though including where most of those cases should have originated in the first place, the Federal Court of Claims which has jurisdiction over them (not federal district judges).
Posted by: whig at July 03, 2025 02:36 PM (ctrM5)
____________________________

I think that $20 Billion that Zeldin put a hold on is still sitting over at Chase Bank. It's hard to tell since the media won't cover the story at all.

Posted by: Orson at July 03, 2025 02:39 PM (dIske)

103 WTF ?

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 03, 2025 02:39 PM (NtVYv)

104 Foist?

Posted by: Cray Cray at July 03, 2025 02:40 PM (J+Ktj)

105 81 Where did they get the money? I mean did congress approve and extra 42 billion for the energy department to hand out in graft? That money had to come from somewhere.
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I asked a similar question when the New York governor announced she was providing $50 million to cover legal services for illegals--that's a lot of money to have sitting in a sock drawer. How do government "leaders" have the seemingly instant ability to spend vast amounts of money without seeking anyone's approval?
Posted by: Crusader
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That is the sin on continuing resolutions and a lot of funny our looter leader class made bank on vague spending requirements of Covid relief that CRs kept in. The BBB ends that grift along with even spending justified under the 2010 economic emergency passed by Obama and his crony Congress.

The BBB means that the old continuing resolutions on spending no longer apply and BBB restores the US back to the omnibus spending bill for the rest of this fiscal year. That makes the change to regular order easier for next fiscal year starting in October plus there is another reconciliation bill that can be passed for that year's budget dealing with entitlement spending.

Posted by: whig at July 03, 2025 02:40 PM (ctrM5)

106 40 What's really funny is that almost nobody knows what's in the bill.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2025 02:30 PM (viF8m)

Including congress.
Posted by: ... at July 03, 2025 02:31 PM (VPwHp)

It's over a thousand pages long. No one person has a single fucking clue as to the entirely of its contents, and at best read a 12-page summary put together by a team of staffers. As is the case with any major piece of legislation. Which is a big problem.

Posted by: No man's property is safe when Congress is in session at July 03, 2025 02:40 PM (TbWk/)

107 Top 10??

Posted by: AthensMike at July 03, 2025 02:40 PM (BJ0eV)

108 74 We're all gonna get laid!
Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2025 02:27 PM (viF8m)

I'm married.

Life is short. Have an affair.

Posted by: Ashley Madison at July 03, 2025 02:42 PM (MZ+PY)

109 Huh?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 03, 2025 02:42 PM (XeU6L)

110 Lamont? Is that you?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 03, 2025 02:43 PM (XeU6L)

111 I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.

Posted by: toby928 at July 03, 2025 02:43 PM (jc0TO)

112 Hmm. Looks like a future post. Can't honourably claim a first.

Posted by: Nazdar at July 03, 2025 02:45 PM (NcvvS)

113 What a whirlwind 5 1/2 months for President US Trump. So much winning. Speaker Johnson gets a scalp or two for holding the fractured GOP house together during the BBB voting. Getting rid of McConnell played its role too. Saying US Trump and the GOP steamrolled the Dems feels like an exaggeration but not by much.

Now comes the hard work of implementing the entirety of US Trump's agenda and its potential to be the most generationally consequential administration since LBJ's failed Great Society mess. Getting to a balanced budget and real reductions to the national debt will be critical. But for today, and tomorrow, celebrate the wins and the nation's birthday.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 03, 2025 02:50 PM (NXz8h)

114 Hello

Posted by: javems at July 03, 2025 02:54 PM (8I4hW)

115 Whew. I thought I had an anerusmsmm..... fbhbhbh

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 03, 2025 03:39 PM (mlg/3)

116 ok, i noodled on the other thread

Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 03, 2025 03:41 PM (CWTWj)

117 Everytime I see James Varney, I want someone to say "know what I mean, Vern?"

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 03, 2025 03:41 PM (uWKK8)

118 Yeah this is... I knew this stuff was going on, just like their frenzied pardon-selling operation with the autopen. They were gonna get PAID with the federal budget, even if they couldn't keep their sweet jobs.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2025 03:41 PM (dfIr7)

119 Are we getting the $2 billion back from Tank Abrams?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 03, 2025 03:42 PM (ULPxl)

120
Hakeem Jeffries has a sad that pride month is over.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 03, 2025 03:42 PM (Dlpj7)

121 Oh, so no nood for old nood.

Bastards.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 03, 2025 03:43 PM (bss/y)

122
The BBB means that the old continuing resolutions on spending no longer apply and BBB restores the US back to the omnibus spending bill for the rest of this fiscal year. That makes the change to regular order easier for next fiscal year starting in October plus there is another reconciliation bill that can be passed for that year's budget dealing with entitlement spending.

Posted by: whig at July 03, 2025 02:40 PM (ctrM5)

And rescission bills can now be done through Sept 30 on this budget.

Posted by: Nova Local at July 03, 2025 03:43 PM (tOcjL)

123 I did too much math to let this get will owed. Whig check my math.

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And closer to 2030 than 2020
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 03:37 PM (iFTx/)

And closer to 6051 than 2001 BC.

Posted by: ... at July 03, 2025 03:43 PM (VPwHp)

124 118 Yeah this is... I knew this stuff was going on, just like their frenzied pardon-selling operation with the autopen. They were gonna get PAID with the federal budget, even if they couldn't keep their sweet jobs.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2025 03:41 PM (dfIr7)

Interestingly, it's this last minute stuff that Trump can now spend 4 years investigating and seeing if criminal charges can stick...he has the time, and they don't have the preemptive pardons. His 1st response should be if anyone wants to preemptively give the money back as a get out of jail free card.

Posted by: Nova Local at July 03, 2025 03:44 PM (tOcjL)

125 Sec. 70204. Trump accounts appear to be IRAs for children.
Posted by: toby928 at July 03, 2025 03:41 PM

Posted by: toby928 repeats himself at July 03, 2025 03:44 PM (jc0TO)

126 is sid at the all you can eat sperm bar or does he have to wait till 4 pm?

Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 03, 2025 03:45 PM (CWTWj)

127 BBB passed 218-214. Two GOP defectors.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider

Besides Massie, who else voted no?

Posted by: Leupold at July 03, 2025 03:45 PM (4pwAx)

128 This thread looks familiar.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 03, 2025 03:45 PM (Iv8wu)

129 Secretary Wright recently urged Congress to keep the money in place as the LPO now aims to use it to further the Trump administration's energy policy, particularly with nuclear projects.
___________________________

Heh...there's still $300 Billion in the pot. I'm guessing the Environmental nut cases who accumulated that misbegotten cash via a false "Inflation Reduction Act" are going to be really pissed when Nuclear Power Plants start popping up using those funds.

Posted by: Orson at July 03, 2025 03:45 PM (dIske)

130 Wait -- the BBB passed. Why are we all still alive?? What sorcery is this??

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 03:45 PM (iFTx/)

131 TBF, it's not like it was sent in cash & currencies on pallets to the greatest sponsor & funder of worldwide terrorism ...

... for a third time.

Posted by: ShainS -- Designate The Democrat Party A Domestic Terrorist Organization at July 03, 2025 03:46 PM (D9BsV)

132 Fitzfuckstick

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 03, 2025 03:46 PM (Iv8wu)

133 130 Wait -- the BBB passed. Why are we all still alive?? What sorcery is this??
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 03:45 PM (iFTx/)

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If we didn't need more evidence of living in a simulation, this really seals the deal for me.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 03:46 PM (GBKbO)

134 re 121: i noodled. pay attention

Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 03, 2025 03:46 PM (CWTWj)

135 127 BBB passed 218-214. Two GOP defectors.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider

Besides Massie, who else voted no?

Posted by: Leupold at July 03, 2025 03:45 PM (4pwAx)

A known moderate from PA, Fitzpatrick, who said he'd promised his constituents he wouldn't support significant cuts to Medicaid...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 03, 2025 03:46 PM (tOcjL)

136 Did Bride of Chucky sneak the cheese on raw unflippable burgers provision in?

Posted by: ... at July 03, 2025 03:46 PM (VPwHp)

137 Also, realize this is the end of CR's.
There's a whole lot to like about this process, sausage making though it is.
Gotta hand it to Johnson so far. Now let's see if he knows how to go the the mattresses.
Posted by: MkY at July 03, 2025 02:35 PM (cPGH3)
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Wow, the end of CRs is actually very big, and the return of regular orders is honestly earth-shattering. Much more transparency, Trump can now veto single bills and not shut the government down, just individual departments.

I know people hate on the GOP, but this is a substantive change.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 03, 2025 03:46 PM (ZOv7s)

138
I thought there was some Veritas video where a young gay EPA guy was saying it was like tossing gold ingots off the Titanic.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 03, 2025 03:47 PM (/HVsR)

139 This thread looks familiar.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 03, 2025 03:45 PM (Iv8wu)

You know who else looked familiar?

Posted by: Charlie Chaplin at July 03, 2025 03:47 PM (VPwHp)

140 Wait -- the BBB passed. Why are we all still alive?? What sorcery is this??
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 03:45 PM (iFTx/)

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Speak for your self, I was killed by the hole in the ozone layer. Or was it acid rain? I forget. Anyway, I'm ded.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 03, 2025 03:48 PM (2UnvF)

141 137 Wow, the end of CRs is actually very big, and the return of regular orders is honestly earth-shattering. Much more transparency, Trump can now veto single bills and not shut the government down, just individual departments.

I know people hate on the GOP, but this is a substantive change.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 03, 2025 03:46 PM (ZOv7s)

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Budget bills by department isn't regular order. Regular order is budget followed by appropriations.

It's still omnibus now. Designed to bypass Senate reconciliation rules.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 03:48 PM (GBKbO)

142 All around the mulberry bush Lamont chased the weasel, pop goes the post !

hhahah

Happy 4th Ace

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 03, 2025 03:48 PM (NtVYv)

143 A known moderate from PA, Fitzpatrick, who said he'd promised his constituents he wouldn't support significant cuts to Medicaid...
Posted by: Nova Local


So Massie is on the side of everyone who wanted more Medicaid, totally a hill to die on for committed, libertarian small government types like Massie

Posted by: Leupold at July 03, 2025 03:48 PM (4pwAx)

144
RICO. Waterboarding Therapy. Executions.

Some Disassembly Required ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Designate The Democrat Party A Domestic Terrorist Organization at July 03, 2025 03:48 PM (D9BsV)

145 It's like dejavu all over again

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 03, 2025 03:48 PM (Iv8wu)

146 You mean Neera Tanden

Posted by: Jupiter no rings mofo at July 03, 2025 03:48 PM (W+TLY)

147 Budget bills by department isn't regular order. Regular order is budget followed by appropriations.

It's still omnibus now. Designed to bypass Senate reconciliation rules.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 03:48 PM (GBKbO)
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Damn you for crushing my dreams.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 03, 2025 03:48 PM (ZOv7s)

148 147 Budget bills by department isn't regular order. Regular order is budget followed by appropriations.

It's still omnibus now. Designed to bypass Senate reconciliation rules.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 03:48 PM (GBKbO)
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Damn you for crushing my dreams.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 03, 2025 03:48 PM (ZOv7s)

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I'd prefer the individual department approach, but Congress just won't do it. And Trump didn't want it.

No one in DC wants it, so it's not gonna happen.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 03:49 PM (GBKbO)

149
Did Bride of Chucky sneak the cheese on raw unflippable burgers provision in?
Posted by: ...

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Bride of Chucky has so much losing looming over him. Trump from the right, AOC and Zohran Mad-manny from the left. He's probably suffering a bit right now.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 03, 2025 03:49 PM (Rrsaq)

150 Damn you for crushing my dreams.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 03, 2025 03:48 PM (ZOv7s)

And now you know why people hate on the GOP

Posted by: ... at July 03, 2025 03:50 PM (VPwHp)

151 It's funny we're still abiding by the Byrd rule, something that's not in the Constitution and created by a former KKK member for keeping segregation.

If the Founding Fathers wanted a 60 seat threshold to pass any "real" laws, they would have put that in our Constitution.

Posted by: Leupold at July 03, 2025 03:50 PM (4pwAx)

152 Sec. 70204. Trump accounts appear to be IRAs for children.
Posted by: toby928 at July 03, 2025 03:41 PM

Posted by: toby928 repeats himself at July 03, 2025 03:44 PM (jc0TO)

You are correct. Trump’s baby bonus. Sucks to have an eight year old age cutoff, though.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 03, 2025 03:50 PM (i24o9)

153 There was some talk about the 2026 midterms towards the end of the last thread. First, with a President like this, it's foolish to think any earlier "norms" will apply - we are well into the age of busted "norms".

as to what will determine things - A) the economy, growing or shrinking? and B) quality candidate selection and support

Admittedly, the GOP has screwed up with its candidate selection many times in the past, so here's hoping that Trump can have some influence and do a much better job this time around.

This is also why I don't mind Powell holding interest rates high for a while. That's just delayed growth, and while far from optimal, his term runs out in a few months, and undoing that may provide an economic stimulus just in time for the midterms.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 03, 2025 03:50 PM (uWKK8)

154 OT:

This is an AI thing.

Cruise as Iron Man. Good.

Pitt as Cap is not.

Hulk is horrifying.

Phoebe Cates as Black Widow. I'm listening.

https://tinyurl.com/y3wmxb9y

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 03, 2025 03:50 PM (bss/y)

155 I'd love to be a fly on the wall in a Democrat's watering hole tonight.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 03, 2025 03:50 PM (Q4IgG)

156 151 It's funny we're still abiding by the Byrd rule, something that's not in the Constitution and created by a former KKK member for keeping segregation.

If the Founding Fathers wanted a 60 seat threshold to pass any "real" laws, they would have put that in our Constitution.
Posted by: Leupold at July 03, 2025 03:50 PM (4pwAx)

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They put in that the Senate can create its own rules.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 03:51 PM (GBKbO)

157 For perspective, you know how California always crows about "we send so much money to the federal government and the federal government couldn't function without us?"

This is about half of California's annual amount they're always bragging about.

Posted by: Boron Quidquid - the US is a matriarchy, women hold veto with no duty at July 03, 2025 03:51 PM (we2ML)

158 JD Vance
@JDVance
GOP Congressman just texted me:

"I was undecided on the bill but then I watched Hakeem Jeffries performance and now I'm a firm yes."

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Future Califzuela Governor Kommie-la Emhoff is looking for a Campaign Manager who will finally position her ass for success!

Posted by: ShainS -- Designate The Democrat Party A Domestic Terrorist Organization at July 03, 2025 03:51 PM (D9BsV)

159 Speak for your self, I was killed by the hole in the ozone layer. Or was it acid rain? I forget. Anyway, I'm ded.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 03, 2025 03:48 PM (2UnvF)
____________________

Could be worse. I choked on a pinecone.


Posted by: Euell Gibbons at July 03, 2025 03:51 PM (dIske)

160 So Massie is on the side of everyone who wanted more Medicaid, totally a hill to die on for committed, libertarian small government types like Massie
Posted by: Leupold at July 03, 2025 03:48 PM (4pwAx)
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He's a shitty legislator, but a gifted grifter. Has (or had) a whole bunch of people who thought he was Mr. Smith goes to Washington, but he tangled with Trump, and showed his ass.

It's all well and good to be "Mr. No," but when voting margins are narrow, and you repeatedly, overtly, stupidly piss yours away, people eventually notice.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 03, 2025 03:51 PM (ZOv7s)

161 Put Autopen in irons. Rescind every dictum it signed.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 03, 2025 03:52 PM (L5Ij1)

162 What margin is needed to jettison the fillibuster?

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 03, 2025 03:52 PM (Iv8wu)

163 153 Admittedly, the GOP has screwed up with its candidate selection many times in the past, so here's hoping that Trump can have some influence and do a much better job this time around.

This is also why I don't mind Powell holding interest rates high for a while. That's just delayed growth, and while far from optimal, his term runs out in a few months, and undoing that may provide an economic stimulus just in time for the midterms.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 03, 2025 03:50 PM (uWKK

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I'm still waiting to see how a massive decrease in fed grants to Democrat Party apparatchiks and cronies, like from USAID, affects the ability of the Party to vote harvest.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 03:52 PM (GBKbO)

164
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 03, 2025 03:50 PM (bss/y)

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I haven't looked, but at some point you'll be able to cast a movie however you want for your own viewing.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 03, 2025 03:52 PM (Rrsaq)

165 Democrats have no respect for the money they take from the people at gunpoint.

Posted by: Oglebay at July 03, 2025 03:52 PM (MMp6W)

166 Post Past is Post Future. Smart to do this before the really heavy Friday-night drinking begins.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at July 03, 2025 03:53 PM (CwhoI)

167 Dang. MIchael Madsen, from a ton of great stuff, is dead. He was in Reservoir Dogs, lots of movies

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2025 03:53 PM (dfIr7)

168 2/3 to eliminate the fillibuster.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 03, 2025 03:53 PM (Iv8wu)

169 >>> 147 Budget bills by department isn't regular order. Regular order is budget followed by appropriations.

It's still omnibus now. Designed to bypass Senate reconciliation rules.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 03:48 PM (GBKbO)
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Damn you for crushing my dreams.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 03, 2025 03:48 PM (ZOv7s)

He's such a glowie.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 03, 2025 03:54 PM (ULPxl)

170 160 So Massie is on the side of everyone who wanted more Medicaid, totally a hill to die on for committed, libertarian small government types like Massie
Posted by: Leupold at July 03, 2025 03:48 PM (4pwAx)
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He's a shitty legislator, but a gifted grifter. Has (or had) a whole bunch of people who thought he was Mr. Smith goes to Washington, but he tangled with Trump, and showed his ass.

It's all well and good to be "Mr. No," but when voting margins are narrow, and you repeatedly, overtly, stupidly piss yours away, people eventually notice.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 03, 2025 03:51 PM (ZOv7s)

And that is the difference between Massie and Paul, both from KY. Paul knows the Senate and knows when he can make a vote point on his one issue - the budget...Massie just hates Trump and wants him to fail at all times, thereby failing us with every one of his votes in the Trump era...he's never a yes on anything important.

Posted by: Nova Local at July 03, 2025 03:54 PM (tOcjL)

171
For perspective, you know how California always crows about "we send so much money to the federal government and the federal government couldn't function without us?"

This is about half of California's annual amount they're always bragging about.
Posted by: Boron Quidquid

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What is "This" in the second sentence?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 03, 2025 03:54 PM (Rrsaq)

172 =======

They put in that the Senate can create its own rules.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer
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With the expectation that it would not be an elected office.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 03, 2025 03:54 PM (L5Ij1)

173 So I was vacationing and was talking with some acquaintances I know. One of them was a big Trump hater.

This is the best part, decades ago she worked for USAID. She admitted there was huge fraud and abuse while she was there. But is still beyond enraged that it's being fixed.

Posted by: Leupold at July 03, 2025 03:55 PM (4pwAx)

174 It's funny we're still abiding by the Byrd rule, something that's not in the Constitution and created by a former KKK member for keeping segregation.

If the Founding Fathers wanted a 60 seat threshold to pass any "real" laws, they would have put that in our Constitution.
Posted by: Leupold at July 03, 2025 03:50 PM (4pwAx)
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I like the filibuster. I think it's quite useful to present bills from being rammed through without full consideration.

What I don't like is the "virtual filibusher" where no one has to actually stand there and talk, it's just presumed the Mitch McConnell or Diane Feinstein could have held the floor for weeks rather than 35 minutes before tipping over.

Note that Senator Spartacus' filibuster was just a stunt - stopped nothing, achieved nothing, but hey, he gets a participation trophy. Heroically did nothing.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 03, 2025 03:55 PM (ZOv7s)

175 RIP Bump Bailey.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at July 03, 2025 03:55 PM (CwhoI)

176 Hope everyone has a Happy Independence Day tomorrow!!!

Let's continue to show what ungrateful colonists we still are. LOL

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 03, 2025 03:55 PM (qoLdL)

177 $42 billion in two days.

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when its not your money....
Posted by: Lemmiwinks
......

It's theirs now.

Posted by: wth at July 03, 2025 03:55 PM (v0R5T)

178 I'd love to be a fly on the wall in a Democrat's watering hole tonight.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 03, 2025 03:50 PM (Q4IgG)

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"Have we fired the Foreign Iranians and Domestic Spooks who failed to assassinate Trump yet?"

Posted by: ShainS -- Designate The Democrat Party A Domestic Terrorist Organization at July 03, 2025 03:55 PM (AEPtv)

179
What is "This" in the second sentence?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 03, 2025 03:54 PM (Rrsaq)

That depends on what the meaning of "is" is.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 03, 2025 03:55 PM (uWKK8)

180
This is about half of California's annual amount they're always bragging about.
Posted by: Boron Quidquid

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What is "This" in the second sentence?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
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The amount mentioned ace's post :




"James Varney: "Biden" Authorized $42 Billion In Graft to His Political "Environmental" Allies in Just the Last Two Working Days of His Potemkin Presidency"

Posted by: Boron Quidquid - the US is a matriarchy, women hold veto with no duty at July 03, 2025 03:56 PM (we2ML)

181
I'm still waiting to see how a massive decrease in fed grants to Democrat Party apparatchiks and cronies, like from USAID, affects the ability of the Party to vote harvest.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

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This. I want to see the domestic difference of a non-funded left. (We already know that orphans in Africa are dying thanks to us.)

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 03, 2025 03:57 PM (Rrsaq)

182 He's such a glowie.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 03, 2025 03:54 PM (ULPxl)

And just like that a meme is born

Posted by: ... at July 03, 2025 03:57 PM (VPwHp)

183 RIP Bump Bailey.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at July 03, 2025 03:55 PM



PLAY BALL!

Posted by: toby928 at July 03, 2025 03:57 PM (jc0TO)

184
The amount mentioned ace's post :




"James Varney: "Biden" Authorized $42 Billion In Graft to His Political "Environmental" Allies in Just the Last Two Working Days of His Potemkin Presidency"
Posted by: Boron Quidquid
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Ah, thanks.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 03, 2025 03:57 PM (Rrsaq)

185 182 He's such a glowie.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 03, 2025 03:54 PM (ULPxl)

And just like that a meme is born
Posted by: ... at July 03, 2025 03:57 PM (VPwHp)

=====

BurtTC started it.

In earnest.

I'm bought, you see.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 03:57 PM (GBKbO)

186 "Have we fired the Foreign Iranians and Domestic Spooks who failed to assassinate Trump yet?"
Posted by: ShainS -- Designate The Democrat Party A Domestic Terrorist Organization at July 03, 2025 03:55 PM (AEPtv)
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I saw Foreign Iranians and Domestic Spooks open for Ministry at a local club in 1989. Great show.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 03, 2025 03:57 PM (ZOv7s)

187 I'm not cheap but I can be bought.

Posted by: toby928 at July 03, 2025 03:58 PM (jc0TO)

188 I like the filibuster. I think it's quite useful to present bills from being rammed through without full consideration.

What I don't like is the "virtual filibusher" where no one has to actually stand there and talk, it's just presumed the Mitch McConnell or Diane Feinstein could have held the floor for weeks rather than 35 minutes before tipping over.

Note that Senator Spartacus' filibuster was just a stunt - stopped nothing, achieved nothing, but hey, he gets a participation trophy. Heroically did nothing.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
===

The problem is Republicans will likely never get 60+ votes in the Senate.

But GOP should have a natural, long term majority in Senate as there's way more red states.

Posted by: Leupold at July 03, 2025 03:58 PM (4pwAx)

189 "Have we fired the Foreign Iranians and Domestic Spooks who failed to assassinate Trump yet?"
Posted by: ShainS -- Designate The Democrat Party A Domestic Terrorist Organization at July 03, 2025 03:55 PM (AEPtv)

"Wait we can't fire ourselves can we??"

Posted by: ... at July 03, 2025 03:58 PM (VPwHp)

190 Wheel Of Time would be a great series to do as AI.

Posted by: Accomack at July 03, 2025 03:58 PM (YVT+g)

191 We're all glowies now

Posted by: ... at July 03, 2025 03:59 PM (VPwHp)

192 Admittedly, the GOP has screwed up with its candidate selection many times in the past, so here's hoping that Trump can have some influence and do a much better job this time around.

This is also why I don't mind Powell holding interest rates high for a while. That's just delayed growth, and while far from optimal, his term runs out in a few months, and undoing that may provide an economic stimulus just in time for the midterms.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 03, 2025 03:50 PM (uWKK

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I'm still waiting to see how a massive decrease in fed grants to Democrat Party apparatchiks and cronies, like from USAID, affects the ability of the Party to vote harvest.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 03:52 PM (GBKbO)
____

The death of USAID and similar rancid offal will definitely hurt, perhaps critically. There is private leftwing money to make that up, but only if the usual scumbag billionaires open their own wallets. That's a big "if." I think they're especially unlikely to put their own dicks in the game if they think it's a lost cause or even an uphill battle.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 03:59 PM (iFTx/)

193 188 The problem is Republicans will likely never get 60+ votes in the Senate.

But GOP should have a natural, long term majority in Senate as there's way more red states.

Posted by: Leupold at July 03, 2025 03:58 PM (4pwAx)

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We need to see a few cycles of Senate campaigns not run by McConnell before we assume that a 60 vote GOP is completely impossible.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 03:59 PM (GBKbO)

194 The problem is Republicans will likely never get 60+ votes in the Senate.

But GOP should have a natural, long term majority in Senate as there's way more red states.

Posted by: Leupold at July 03, 2025 03:58 PM (4pwAx)
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That's why it has to be old school. It was never intended to be a vote margin, just a speed bump.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 03, 2025 03:59 PM (ZOv7s)

195 > Blue Oval

Pedant: the Ford logo is an ellipse, not an oval.


Hawktuah Jeffries sure has been noisy lately. I reckon he's running for Prez in 2028.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 03, 2025 03:59 PM (qpyNK)

196 We need to see a few cycles of Senate campaigns not run by McConnell before we assume that a 60 vote GOP is completely impossible.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 03:59 PM


Yep. We should be +2 from Georgia alone.

Posted by: toby928 at July 03, 2025 04:00 PM (jc0TO)

197 192 The death of USAID and similar rancid offal will definitely hurt, perhaps critically. There is private leftwing money to make that up, but only if the usual scumbag billionaires open their own wallets. That's a big "if." I think they're especially unlikely to put their own dicks in the game if they think it's a lost cause or even an uphill battle.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 03:59 PM (iFTx/)

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90% of USAID was scammed.

90% of $40 billion is $36 billion.

No private entity, who already donates to the Democrat Party, is making that up.

And that's not the only source of grants ended.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 04:00 PM (GBKbO)

198 If its true that the BBB halts the CR loophole I can live with it having nearly as much pork as a D budget would have. Plus with the ICE and wall $$, the savings in welfare spending will be Yuge.

Posted by: PaleRider at July 03, 2025 04:00 PM (CKOCg)

199 He's such a glowie.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 03, 2025 03:54 PM (ULPxl)

And just like that a meme is born
Posted by: ... at July 03, 2025 03:57 PM (VPwHp)

=====

BurtTC started it.

In earnest.

I'm bought, you see.


It's criminal. I've waited for a bauxite membership for 20 years, and they're just being handed out like candy.

Posted by: Manuel Labor at July 03, 2025 04:00 PM (Riz8t)

200 I'm still waiting to see how a massive decrease in fed grants to Democrat Party apparatchiks and cronies, like from USAID, affects the ability of the Party to vote harvest.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Let's not forget ACTBlue

Posted by: MkY at July 03, 2025 04:00 PM (cPGH3)

201 Clawbacks. Now.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 03, 2025 04:01 PM (Vfq+S)

202 We're all glowies now

Ma Ma Ma Ma we're all glowies now!!!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2025 04:01 PM (dfIr7)

203 He's such a glowie.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 03, 2025 03:54 PM (ULPxl)

And just like that a meme is born
Posted by: ... at July 03, 2025 03:57 PM (VPwHp)

=====

BurtTC started it.

In earnest.

I'm bought, you see.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 03:57 PM (GBKbO)
_______________

TJM is a hot Icelandic singer?

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 04:01 PM (iFTx/)

204 Obvious jokes are not allowed:

@matt_vanswol 6m
🚨#BREAKING: Two South Carolina Highway Patrol troopers have saved a pig from being hit by incoming traffic the middle of the state’s busiest highway, I-26.

The pig was rescued without injury and then adopted by a family member of the state trooper who rescued him!

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 03, 2025 04:01 PM (mlg/3)

205 200 I'm still waiting to see how a massive decrease in fed grants to Democrat Party apparatchiks and cronies, like from USAID, affects the ability of the Party to vote harvest.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Let's not forget ACTBlue
Posted by: MkY at July 03, 2025 04:00 PM (cPGH3)

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I want to see DOJ arresting people over ActBlue before I start assuming it's limited in any way.

Congressional hearings don't count. Those are just noise.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 04:01 PM (GBKbO)

206 > That depends on what the meaning of "is" is.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 03, 2025 03:55 PM (uWKK

After all, I'm not a grammarian.

(a tactic later stolen by a Supreme Court nominee)

Posted by: Billy Jeff at July 03, 2025 04:01 PM (qpyNK)

207 Seen on X

@MoronDoctor_
The far right in Congress believes we should deport illegals & kick them off welfare.

The far left in Congress wants to trans kids and eliminate the combustion engine. These 2 centers of gravity are not equidistant from the center of the spectrum

Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 03, 2025 04:01 PM (Dv3i1)

208 There is private leftwing money to make that up, but only if the usual scumbag billionaires open their own wallets. That's a big "if." I think they're especially unlikely to put their own dicks in the game if they think it's a lost cause or even an uphill battle.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 03:59 PM (iFTx/)
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The private money was obtained by shell NGOs getting grants.

Also, the 1st gen leftists are long in the tooth and their idiot progeny can't even tie their shoelaces without assistance. Does anyone think Alex Soros has the raw, ruthless reptillian cunning to break the Bank of England? He's going to piss through that wealth faster than Hunter Biden on a weekend bender in Macau.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 03, 2025 04:01 PM (ZOv7s)

209 We're all glowies now

Posted by: ... at July 03, 2025 03:59 PM (VPwHp)

Precisely what a glowing would have you believe.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 03, 2025 04:02 PM (i24o9)

210 I think they're especially unlikely to put their own dicks in the game if they think it's a lost cause or even an uphill battle.

I must have missed that verse of "Do the Hokey-Pokey".

Posted by: Archimedes at July 03, 2025 04:02 PM (Riz8t)

211 At Tom's Hardware: "Samsung is reportedly delaying the launch of its Taylor, Texas, fab, citing difficulties in securing customers for its output. ... the original planned process node for the Taylor plant is no longer aligned with current demand, highlighting the rapid pace of semiconductor technology."

The problem with siting semi fabs in the USA. Between the time they are planned and the time they're finally built, they're obsolete.

Posted by: It Puts The gp In The Basket at July 03, 2025 04:02 PM (xYXPm)

212 The pig was rescued without injury and then adopted by a family member of the state trooper who rescued him!
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 03, 2025 04:01 PM



Adopted. The has a nice spot in the smoke house for him.

Posted by: toby928 at July 03, 2025 04:02 PM (jc0TO)

213 It's criminal. I've waited for a bauxite membership for 20 years, and they're just being handed out like candy.

When I came back I got a graphite membership. Can be erased really easily.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2025 04:02 PM (dfIr7)

214 I am noticing what I think is a tell that Trump has BDE momentum:

None of the reports on the passing of the OBBB take pains to note that the opposition was "bipartisan."

LOL, suck it lefties.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 03, 2025 04:02 PM (1KSDN)

215 I'm bought, you see.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 03:57 PM


There'll be an extra sardine tin in your paybox this week.

Posted by: Big Penguin at July 03, 2025 04:02 PM (NlwkK)

216
There is private leftwing money to make that up, but only if the usual scumbag billionaires open their own wallets. That's a big "if."

___________

Nobody is stingier or tightfisted with his own money than a leftist.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 03, 2025 04:02 PM (/HVsR)

217 We need to see a few cycles of Senate campaigns not run by McConnell before we assume that a 60 vote GOP is completely impossible.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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We weren't able to do pre-McConnell even when we had people like Reagan or Nixon winning 49 states.

Just very, very unlikely. Democrats are also just way better at running Democrats in enemy territory that somehow pull off wins.

I just dont see real reform happening with that barrier. We're just moving money around until then.

Posted by: Leupold at July 03, 2025 04:02 PM (4pwAx)

218 215 I'm bought, you see.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 03:57 PM

There'll be an extra sardine tin in your paybox this week.
Posted by: Big Penguin at July 03, 2025 04:02 PM (NlwkK)

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Anything for Big Penguin!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 04:02 PM (GBKbO)

219 The pig was rescued without injury and then adopted by a family member of the state trooper who rescued him!
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 03, 2025 04:01 PM (mlg/3)
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When are they eating the pig? You don't let an animal like that go to waste.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 03, 2025 04:02 PM (ZOv7s)

220 I'm bought, you see.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 03:57 PM (GBKbO)

Believe it or not, it was not the worst thing he posted, or kept posting.

Posted by: runner at July 03, 2025 04:03 PM (g47mK)

221 Jeb Boasberg has ordered Trump to veto the OBBB.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 03, 2025 04:03 PM (2UnvF)

222 I saw the Ungrateful Colonists AND the Grateful Dead open for Paul Revere & The Raiders at the Saratoga Performing Arts Center in '83.

Posted by: ShainS -- Designate The Democrat Party A Domestic Terrorist Organization at July 03, 2025 04:03 PM (aS4AU)

223 Congressional hearings don't count. Those are just noise

Yeah I appreciate the gesture, but that's all it is.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2025 04:04 PM (dfIr7)

224 @MoronDoctor_
The far right in Congress believes we should deport illegals & kick them off welfare.
......

Shoulda never got it or been here in the first place.

Posted by: wth at July 03, 2025 04:04 PM (v0R5T)

225 The death of USAID and similar rancid offal will definitely hurt, perhaps critically. There is private leftwing money to make that up, but only if the usual scumbag billionaires open their own wallets. That's a big "if." I think they're especially unlikely to put their own dicks in the game if they think it's a lost cause or even an uphill battle.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 03:59 PM (iFTx/)

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90% of USAID was scammed.

90% of $40 billion is $36 billion.

No private entity, who already donates to the Democrat Party, is making that up.

And that's not the only source of grants ended.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 04:00 PM (GBKbO)
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That assumes the 90% that was scammed all ended up being used for Democrap campaign, GOtV, and similar "direct" election uses. I don't think that's a good assumption.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 04:04 PM (iFTx/)

226 Believe it or not, it was not the worst thing he posted, or kept posting.

He has become troll-adjacent, and is usually best ignored.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 03, 2025 04:04 PM (Riz8t)

227 167 Madsen was type cast as the bad guy, and he played it well.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 03, 2025 04:04 PM (wBaIH)

228 I wonder if they were astute enough to put something in BBB to reign in the stupid out of control judges.

Posted by: runner at July 03, 2025 04:04 PM (g47mK)

229 Obvious jokes are not allowed:

@matt_vanswol 6m
🚨#BREAKING: Two South Carolina Highway Patrol troopers have saved a pig from being hit by incoming traffic the middle of the state’s busiest highway, I-26.

The pig was rescued without injury and then adopted by a family member of the state trooper who rescued him!

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 03, 2025 04:01 PM (mlg/3)

We do not joke on such matters.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 03, 2025 04:04 PM (i24o9)

230
I'm bought, you see.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,

_________

For how much? Just benchmarking.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 03, 2025 04:04 PM (/HVsR)

231 I remember a scandal a few years back where an animal control staff was eating some of their "prisoners" rather than euthanizing them (nothing weird... these were standard edible animals like bunnies and chickens, not cats and dogs).

They all got fired.

Posted by: Billy Jeff at July 03, 2025 04:05 PM (qpyNK)

232 225 That assumes the 90% that was scammed all ended up being used for Democrap campaign, GOtV, and similar "direct" election uses. I don't think that's a good assumption.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 04:04 PM (iFTx/)

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I assume it helped create the general ecosystem of progressive politics in America.

It's like losing 5 Hollywoods.

This will be felt.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 04:05 PM (GBKbO)

233 Obvious jokes are not allowed:

@matt_vanswol 6m
🚨#BREAKING: Two South Carolina Highway Patrol troopers have saved a pig from being hit by incoming traffic the middle of the state’s busiest highway, I-26.

The pig was rescued without injury and then adopted by a family member of the state trooper who rescued him!
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 03, 2025 04:01 PM (mlg/3)
_____

I'm so glad that now Kamala is with a loving family!

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 04:05 PM (iFTx/)

234 He has become troll-adjacent, and is usually best ignored.

==

he will be ignored, since CBD banned him. unfortunately for only a week.

Posted by: runner at July 03, 2025 04:05 PM (g47mK)

235 This is also why I don't mind Powell holding interest rates high for a while. That's just delayed growth, and while far from optimal, his term runs out in a few months, and undoing that may provide an economic stimulus just in time for the midterms.
Posted by: Tom Servo

I mind. Biden and Yellen went to very short term Treasury notes to finance their large deficits to make their books look better. Powell's inaction on decreasing those rates as REQUIRED by Humphrey Hawking law means that the US is paying billions more in interest to finance preexisting debt that is maturing making the deficit worse.

His noxious tariff testimony as to why he was holding back interest rate cuts despite low inflation rates show the man has an empty head filled with nonsense and/or an animus against the President costing the US billions.

F*ck Powell and I hope the Board of Governors tells Powell to stuff it at the next Fed meeting on interest rates.

Posted by: whig at July 03, 2025 04:05 PM (ctrM5)

236 F'ing autocorrect ruined my crappy jokes twice.

F U.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 03, 2025 04:05 PM (i24o9)

237 > Note that Senator Spartacus' filibuster was just a stunt - stopped nothing, achieved nothing, but hey, he gets a participation trophy. Heroically did nothing.
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Temu Obama, standing in his office with a bat and batting .000 for 8 hours.

Awesome meme that should be made if it hasn't already.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 03, 2025 04:05 PM (Q4IgG)

238 We weren't able to do pre-McConnell even when we had people like Reagan or Nixon winning 49 states.

Posted by: Leupold at July 03, 2025 04:02 PM (4pwAx)
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Ah, but Scoop Jackson and the Southern Democrats were still a thing. A lot of Dems were actually more conservative than New England Republicans.

The Dems are so far to the left that - absent ballot box stuffing and primary rigging - they should be in a tiny minority. For whatever reason, red states are cursed with very liberal senators. Also purple states "seem" to like radical leftists. Most curious.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 03, 2025 04:05 PM (ZOv7s)

239 He has become troll-adjacent, and is usually best ignored.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 03, 2025 04:04 PM (Riz8t)

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It's unfortunate, but he's been heading in that direction for a while.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 03, 2025 04:06 PM (2UnvF)

240
Jeb Boasberg has ordered Trump to veto the OBBB.
Posted by: Duke Lowell

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In fact, he declared every Democrat to be eligible for a class action suit against Trump.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 03, 2025 04:06 PM (Rrsaq)

241 226 Believe it or not, it was not the worst thing he posted, or kept posting.

He has become troll-adjacent, and is usually best ignored.
Posted by: Archimedes
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Hey, I am right here you know.

Posted by: whig at July 03, 2025 04:06 PM (ctrM5)

242 @MoronDoctor_
The far right in Congress believes we should deport illegals & kick them off welfare.


That's the nicest and the least we should do.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 03, 2025 04:06 PM (Bs2bL)

243 @197

>>And that's not the only source of grants ended.

As noted, 1/3 of any federal, state or local budget is straight graft and corruption.

As long as any governments funded NGO or other scheme exists, there will be beak dipping and plenty of walking around money.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 03, 2025 04:06 PM (XV/Pl)

244 That assumes the 90% that was scammed all ended up being used for Democrap campaign, GOtV, and similar "direct" election uses. I don't think that's a good assumption.
Posted by: Elric The

==

To me it was more of a patronage scam. Here's your no-show job if you're basically a full time campaign volunteer for Democrat candiates.

I'm sure it made its way into campaign ad buys, but it wasn't literally all being spent in campaigns.

Posted by: Leupold at July 03, 2025 04:07 PM (4pwAx)

245 167 Dang. MIchael Madsen, from a ton of great stuff, is dead. He was in Reservoir Dogs, lots of movies

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2025 03:53 PM (dfIr7)

He was 67. Must have been some hard years in there.

Posted by: javems at July 03, 2025 04:07 PM (8I4hW)

246 I'm still waiting to see how a massive decrease in fed grants to Democrat Party apparatchiks and cronies, like from USAID, affects the ability of the Party to vote harvest.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 03:52 PM (GBKbO)
__________________________________

I think you might already be seeing it. I seems more and more likely that a large portion of the "major fundraisers" that the DNC is dependent upon might not have been using their own money. They were just signed onto the process to add legitimacy. Now that the spigot has slowed, the given story is that they are disgruntled with the DNC's path. I think it's more likely they are disgruntled with the lack of tax dollars coming their way so as to pretend to be a generous donor on someone else's dime.

The absolute vitriol being spouted by Democrat politicians and their unfaltering obstacles thrown up before DOGE seems to add credence to this.

Posted by: Orson at July 03, 2025 04:07 PM (dIske)

247 That assumes the 90% that was scammed all ended up being used for Democrap campaign, GOtV, and similar "direct" election uses. I don't think that's a good assumption.
Posted by: Elric

A fraction of that kind of money paid for riots in the Summer of Love, and got libtard prosecutors elected all over blue city America.
1% is what?

Posted by: MkY at July 03, 2025 04:07 PM (cPGH3)

248 243 As noted, 1/3 of any federal, state or local budget is straight graft and corruption.

As long as any governments funded NGO or other scheme exists, there will be beak dipping and plenty of walking around money.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 03, 2025 04:06 PM (XV/Pl)

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Of course.

But acting like cutting off tens of billions is meaningless and won't have an effect seems like a curious assumption.

There's a difference between paying Lockheed Martin hundreds of billions too much for weapons and USAID straight graft.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 04:07 PM (GBKbO)

249 Not for nothing but looking at you Mike Johnson, - why do most prominent Republicans look about two drinks or a bad few hours away from a wig, a twink and show tunes.
Posted by: ... at July 03, 2025 02:28 PM (VPwHp)

I adore "Kiss Of The Spider Woman"!

Posted by: Lindsey Graham, Closeted Homosexual at July 03, 2025 04:08 PM (R/m4+)

250 90% of USAID was scammed.

90% of $40 billion is $36 billion.

No private entity, who already donates to the Democrat Party, is making that up.

And that's not the only source of grants ended.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 04:00 PM (GBKbO)
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That's what I was thinking. If USAID was really a huge grift/kickback scam, there's no way the "private sector" could make that up.

Posted by: WisRich at July 03, 2025 04:08 PM (G0vdT)

251 @MoronDoctor_
The far right in Congress believes we should deport illegals & kick them off welfare.


That's the nicest and the least we should do.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 03, 2025 04:06 PM (Bs2bL)
------------

Huh, imagine that, many legal immigrants and roughly 60% of the elecorate is now far right.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 03, 2025 04:08 PM (tT6L1)

252 It's unfortunate, but he's been heading in that direction for a while.
Posted by: Duke Lowell
======
Unhappy people (I think he has had some acknowledged tragedies in his life) can become bitter.

Posted by: whig at July 03, 2025 04:09 PM (ctrM5)

253 That assumes the 90% that was scammed all ended up being used for Democrap campaign, GOtV, and similar "direct" election uses. I don't think that's a good assumption.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 04:04 PM (iFTx/)

======

I assume it helped create the general ecosystem of progressive politics in America.

It's like losing 5 Hollywoods.

This will be felt.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 04:05 PM (GBKbO)
_______

Ummm ... I said it would be felt. It already is being felt in the form of woefully under-attended leftwing rallies and riots, and a general malaise over the entire leftwing apparatus.

The only issue for me is whether in terms of actual political campaigns it can be made up by private sources. For me, things like GOtV -- basically FOtV or "Fraud Out the Vote" -- and similar scams are a MAJOR reason why Dumocraps "win" elections. Zuckerberg's election "fortification" and all.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 04:09 PM (iFTx/)

254 Ok now when the gros start crying 'reparations' I just shout back hey ya'll got your "RIParations' already!

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at July 03, 2025 04:09 PM (DwKKA)

255 He was 67. Must have been some hard years in there.
Posted by: javems at July 03, 2025 04:07 PM (8I4hW)

_______________________

Madsen was an addict. Spielberg almost tossed him off the "Saving Private Ryan" set according to interviews.

Posted by: Orson at July 03, 2025 04:09 PM (dIske)

256 I suspect that as Biden slipped into the darkness of dementia his ability to even occasionally override his venal instincts entirely disappeared.

Posted by: Still lurking up north, read some, don't comment much at July 03, 2025 04:09 PM (kTd/k)

257 @MoronDoctor_
The far right in Congress believes we should deport illegals & kick them off welfare.
.......

Good thing we just got a brand new Deportation Machine.

Posted by: wth at July 03, 2025 04:09 PM (v0R5T)

258 so, how are 2026 polls looking ??

Posted by: runner at July 03, 2025 04:09 PM (g47mK)

259 Want to kill of Liberalism?
Go to paper ballots, and Real ID for voting.
No amount of money can overcome reality.

Posted by: MkY at July 03, 2025 04:09 PM (cPGH3)

260 250 That's what I was thinking. If USAID was really a huge grift/kickback scam, there's no way the "private sector" could make that up.
Posted by: WisRich at July 03, 2025 04:08 PM (G0vdT)

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Even if it was just straight salary to connected cronies, suddenly, those connected cronies cannot contribute to campaigns because they're not being paid.

Probably the most loyal source of funds in the modern Democrat Party suddenly jobless.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 04:09 PM (GBKbO)

261 > He was 67. Must have been some hard years in there.
Posted by: javems at July 03, 2025 04:07 PM (8I4hW)

His sister Virginia was still a 1 the last time I saw her, and she's only a few years younger, I believe, so whatever the trauma was it apparently didn't affect her.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 03, 2025 04:09 PM (qpyNK)

262 231 I remember a scandal a few years back where an animal control staff was eating some of their "prisoners" rather than euthanizing them (nothing weird... these were standard edible animals like bunnies and chickens, not cats and dogs).

They all got fired.
Posted by: Billy Jeff at July 03, 2025 04:05 PM (qpyNK)

How odd for it to be a scandal and the AC staff to be fired. Unless they were weirdo's eating live chickens, those food critters WERE euthanized, just not with a chemical that poisons the meat. But I'm sure the FNM painted however they were killed before butchering as barbaric and the poison shot as oh so humane.

Posted by: PaleRider at July 03, 2025 04:10 PM (CKOCg)

263 "Madsen was an addict. Spielberg almost tossed him off the "Saving Private Ryan" set according to interviews."

Sizemore got a pass?

Posted by: It Puts The gp In The Basket at July 03, 2025 04:10 PM (xYXPm)

264 Astros / Rockies: 3-2.
Rockies need one game to tie the Cleveland Spiders' final season (1899, 20-134)

Posted by: gKWVE at July 03, 2025 04:10 PM (gKWVE)

265 Sucks about Madsen. Since Hopper and Robert Mitchum have both passed he was my go to psycho ☹️

Posted by: Bob Crane at July 03, 2025 04:11 PM (OERWa)

266 This is the most momentous political event in my lifetime. I cannot express enough my gratitude to Donald Trump. His honesty and energy has energized all of the associates he has picked to surround him. A truly great day, and everything is just getting started.

Posted by: tubal at July 03, 2025 04:11 PM (PCK5/)

267 People need to go to jail.

Posted by: steevy at July 03, 2025 04:11 PM (YwEeS)

268 Madsen was an addict. Spielberg almost tossed him off the "Saving Private Ryan" set according to interviews.
Posted by: Orson at July 03, 2025 04:09 PM (dIske)

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That was Tom Sizemore.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 03, 2025 04:11 PM (2UnvF)

269 On the end of USAID graft, I believe someone, was it you, TJM? who mentioned, or posted, something which indicated many of the NGO's were set up by billionaires with the understanding funding for the NGO's would eventually be taken over by the taxpayer.

From what I remember, it seemed lefty billionaires were buying enormous influence for a few million dollars worth of seed money.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 03, 2025 04:11 PM (tT6L1)

270 It appears that the BBB with the new deductions will pull us from the current 22% tax bracket down to the 12% tax bracket. We are going to save a couple of thousand in taxes from the new bill.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 03, 2025 04:11 PM (e5NfL)

271 263 "Madsen was an addict. Spielberg almost tossed him off the "Saving Private Ryan" set according to interviews."

Sizemore got a pass?
Posted by: It Puts The gp In The Basket at July 03, 2025 04:10 PM (xYXPm)

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That story is about Sizemore, not Madsen. Madsen's not in Saving Private Ryan.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 04:11 PM (GBKbO)

272 Posted by: whig at July 03, 2025 04:09 PM (ctrM5)

I thought about depression which often effects men in sometimes making them angry and as you noted he has mentioned some really hard things in his life over the past couple of years.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 03, 2025 04:12 PM (2GCMq)

273 ===============

What is "This" in the second sentence?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
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Sometimes the writer forgets that what's in his mind is not printed.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 03, 2025 04:12 PM (L5Ij1)

274 Forging the President's signature via wet ink, rubberstamp, autopen, or any other facsimile should be eligible for up to and including the death penalty.

... and most certainly already is.
Just everyone is afraid to mention it.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 03, 2025 04:12 PM (/lPRQ)

275 F*ck Powell and I hope the Board of Governors tells Powell to stuff it at the next Fed meeting on interest rates.
Posted by: whig at July 03, 2025 04:05 PM (ctrM5)


The bank of England and the ECB are suffering now because they also got those short term bills from Yellen too, and they have to finance them again. Starmer is looking at yet another crisis and the ECB is looking at forcing capital controls and forcing all savings to be backed in EU bonds that will be defaulted or devalued leaving the savers and pensioners to bear the pain.
I think Powell wants to firm up the status of the federal reserve banks and the US Dollar. If the Euro and the Pound start to waver, all the safe money goes to dollars, gold and Yuan

Prediction from last month was 50 basis points (half a percent) by the middle of July

Posted by: Kindltot at July 03, 2025 04:12 PM (D7oie)

276 @248

>>But acting like cutting off tens of billions is meaningless and won't have an effect seems like a curious assumption.


To be sure, cutting off any funding mechanisms is going to hurt the left.

But let's be real, they still control enough voting apparatuses in enough locales to fortify enough elections to stay competitive.

I bet they steal a couple of more house seats in Cali and NY in 26.

Will this be enough to offset potential losses elsewhere?

Perhaps, but I think the US has largely self sorted over the last 5 years and we're pretty much in the stasis period for a while until the next political paradigm shift.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 03, 2025 04:12 PM (XV/Pl)

277 I thought about depression which often effects men in sometimes making them angry and as you noted he has mentioned some really hard things in his life over the past couple of years.

Good to know. I've had more than a few run-ins with him myself. I'll try to factor that in.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 03, 2025 04:12 PM (Riz8t)

278 How odd for it to be a scandal and the AC staff to be fired. Unless they were weirdo's eating live chickens, those food critters WERE euthanized, just not with a chemical that poisons the meat. But I'm sure the FNM painted however they were killed before butchering as barbaric and the poison shot as oh so humane.
Posted by: PaleRider at July 03, 2025 04:10 PM (CKOCg)
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Really depends on where it was.

I live in a pretty liberal area, but when the deer began to devour everything in sight, the city council requested Forest Service hunters to cull the herd, with the meat being donated to soup kitchens. Everyone that it made perfect sense.

As for Animal Control dining on Fluffy Bunny, that seems a stretch, but a policy of donating the meat of approved gamve/livestock animals to feed the poor makes sense.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 03, 2025 04:13 PM (ZOv7s)

279 I read today illegals get more Medicaid , housing, and gov subsidies that all Americans combined ...

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at July 03, 2025 04:13 PM (DwKKA)

280 Believe it or not, it was not the worst thing he posted, or kept posting.

He has become troll-adjacent, and is usually best ignored.
Posted by: Archimedes
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Hey, I am right here you know.
Posted by: whig at July 03, 2025 04:06 PM (ctrM5)
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BurtTC? Was he the dude who went off the rails over Israel-Iran and any USA involvement?

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 04:13 PM (iFTx/)

281 The only issue for me is whether in terms of actual political campaigns it can be made up by private sources. For me, things like GOtV -- basically FOtV or "Fraud Out the Vote" -- and similar scams are a MAJOR reason why Dumocraps "win" elections. Zuckerberg's election "fortification" and all.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 04:09 PM (iFTx/)

But the word coming out of "private sources" is that they are still pissed as hell about tossing one or two billion of their money last year into a dumpster and setting it all on fire. Not going to be nearly so easy to get as much out of them this time, especially when a lot of them will be thinking it'll be more profitable to switch sides. (especially the tech oligarchs)

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 03, 2025 04:13 PM (uWKK8)

282
Unhappy people (I think he has had some acknowledged tragedies in his life) can become bitter.
Posted by: whig at July 03, 2025 04:09 PM (ctrM5)

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I wasn't the target, so I'd like to be charitable. We're all of us screw-ups, not monsters. Whatever set this off, I hope he resolves it.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 03, 2025 04:13 PM (/HVsR)

283 Precisely what a glowing would have you believe.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 03, 2025 04:02 PM (i24o9)

Well yeah why do you think I'm always pimping Karen Gillan in that drama club policewoman outfit. It was never about Karen Gillan but rather my suspicious adoration for Law Enforcement. Particularly in black leggings.

Posted by: ... at July 03, 2025 04:14 PM (VPwHp)

284 I've waited for a bauxite membership for 20 years, and they're just being handed out like candy.

Posted by: Manuel Labor at July 03, 2025 04:00 PM (Riz8t)

Eh...Bauxite is crap. The real players have the coveted Pot Metal Membership!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at July 03, 2025 04:14 PM (L5An7)

285 276 To be sure, cutting off any funding mechanisms is going to hurt the left.

But let's be real, they still control enough voting apparatuses in enough locales to fortify enough elections to stay competitive.

I bet they steal a couple of more house seats in Cali and NY in 26.

Will this be enough to offset potential losses elsewhere?

Perhaps, but I think the US has largely self sorted over the last 5 years and we're pretty much in the stasis period for a while until the next political paradigm shift.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 03, 2025 04:12 PM (XV/Pl)

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Well, they control those apparatuses because they pay voters for their ballots in many instances. Cuts will affect that.

I also think we're at the pinnacle of how far cheating can take them with the current map. Never mind that the RNC, which saw progress on fighting back cheating in 2024, will have a smaller map to focus on.

And if the SAVE act can get through the Senate, that affects things even mroe.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 04:14 PM (GBKbO)

286 People need to go to jail.
Posted by: steevy at July 03, 2025 04:11 PM (YwEeS)


I admire the passion, but Michael Madsen wasn't really all that important.

Posted by: far cry at July 03, 2025 04:14 PM (Uxybj)

287 Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 03, 2025 04:13 PM (/HVsR)

Yes indeed.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 03, 2025 04:14 PM (2GCMq)

288 284 I've waited for a bauxite membership for 20 years, and they're just being handed out like candy.

Posted by: Manuel Labor at July 03, 2025 04:00 PM (Riz8t)

Eh...Bauxite is crap. The real players have the coveted Pot Metal Membership!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at July 03, 2025 04:14 PM (L5An7)

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I'm just hoping to upgrade my bucket of piss membership eventually.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 04:15 PM (GBKbO)

289 Perhaps, but I think the US has largely self sorted over the last 5 years and we're pretty much in the stasis period for a while until the next political paradigm shift.
Posted by: Thomas Bender

My contention is that the Left hasn't nearly the support the Machines in the Blue Cities make it seem.
Honest elections, and the Dems go the way of the Whigs.

Posted by: MkY at July 03, 2025 04:15 PM (cPGH3)

290 The only issue for me is whether in terms of actual political campaigns it can be made up by private sources. For me, things like GOtV -- basically FOtV or "Fraud Out the Vote" -- and similar scams are a MAJOR reason why Dumocraps "win" elections. Zuckerberg's election "fortification" and all.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 04:09 PM (iFTx/)

But the word coming out of "private sources" is that they are still pissed as hell about tossing one or two billion of their money last year into a dumpster and setting it all on fire. Not going to be nearly so easy to get as much out of them this time, especially when a lot of them will be thinking it'll be more profitable to switch sides. (especially the tech oligarchs)
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 03, 2025 04:13 PM (uWKK
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Yes, I made that point in my original comment. I'm not taking victory laps yet, or blowing my load in the sheet before the girl makes it out of the bathroom. 2026 and especially 2028 are a long ways away. Anything can happen. Evil never rests. It finds a way.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 04:15 PM (iFTx/)

291 To me it was more of a patronage scam. Here's your no-show job if you're basically a full time campaign volunteer for Democrat candidates.

Yeah its all part of a machine. If the money stops flowing, people stop heling and caring. They aren't big time democrat fans and activists to all these causes because they are True Believers.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2025 04:15 PM (dfIr7)

292 But let's be real, they still control enough voting apparatuses in enough locales to fortify enough elections to stay competitive.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 03, 2025 04:12 PM (XV/Pl)
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The Wild Card is federal election oversight. The mere presence of investigators raises the potential risk factor exponentially. Requirements that ballots be retained for federal review also reduces the ability for close elections to *always* go to the Dems.

If nothing else, the stigma on calling it out is gone.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 03, 2025 04:15 PM (ZOv7s)

293 I thinks it's time to sell my green stocks. The cat is out of the bag.

Posted by: GOP Rep at July 03, 2025 04:15 PM (/U5Yz)

294 They need to come up with a way to claw that money back.

Posted by: Case at July 03, 2025 04:16 PM (ilX37)

295 $42 billion in two days.


Blatant malfeasance!
Rip the guts out of every company involved involved and try every person involved.
This is pure bullshit.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 03, 2025 04:16 PM (1bdKO)

296 @271

>>That story is about Sizemore, not Madsen. Madsen's not in Saving Private Ryan.

Madsen like Biehn, should of had a bigger career.

Whatever that extra thing that separates big actors for could have been big actors, they didn't have.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 03, 2025 04:16 PM (XV/Pl)

297 Sizemore got a pass?
Posted by: It Puts The gp In The Basket at July 03, 2025 04:10 PM (xYXPm)
_____________________

Eh...all you white guys look alike

Posted by: Orson at July 03, 2025 04:16 PM (dIske)

298 296 Madsen like Biehn, should of had a bigger career.

Whatever that extra thing that separates big actors for could have been big actors, they didn't have.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 03, 2025 04:16 PM (XV/Pl)

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I watched The Abyss for the first time in forever. Biehn's good.

His role is shit, but he's good.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 04:16 PM (GBKbO)

299 Blatant malfeasance!
Rip the guts out of every company involved involved and try every person involved.


They'll just do an Acorn: dissolve themselves and reconstitute under a different name.

The real solution is to jail the people who gave them the money.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 03, 2025 04:17 PM (Riz8t)

300 So, are social security retirement payments free from taxation now? And if so, is that retroactive to Jan 1?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 03, 2025 04:17 PM (Q4IgG)

301 Madsen like Biehn, should of had a bigger career.

YOu look at their IMDB pages, they both had constant work, multiple jobs a year. Just no huge breakout leading roles which as an actor I think I'd prefer.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2025 04:18 PM (dfIr7)

302 We were governed for four years by treacherous slobs.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 03, 2025 04:18 PM (WHfpM)

303 How odd for it to be a scandal and the AC staff to be fired. Unless they were weirdo's eating live chickens, those food critters WERE euthanized, just not with a chemical that poisons the meat. But I'm sure the FNM painted however they were killed before butchering as barbaric and the poison shot as oh so humane.
Posted by: PaleRider at July 03, 2025 04:10 PM (CKOCg)

It all depends on the actual circumstances. I have a vision of some auditor going out to the field facility, coming in and finding a couple of black animal control officers holding knives and forks, grinning with feathers stuck all over their faces.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 03, 2025 04:18 PM (uWKK8)

304 Mary Talley Bowden MD: Pam Bondi Is Trying to Save Pfizer From the Lawsuit That Could Bankrupt It

It seems Pam Bondi was a lobbyist with Suzie Wiles. Wiles used to work for Pfizer.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 03, 2025 04:18 PM (/U5Yz)

305 Give an illegal a fish he eats for a day.

Deport the illegal you don’t have to teach him to fish.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 03, 2025 04:18 PM (nwGCR)

306 I'm just hoping to upgrade my bucket of piss membership eventually.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison


I can handle this.

Posted by: Count DeMoney at July 03, 2025 04:18 PM (mlg/3)

307 People need to go to jail.
Posted by: steevy
.....

People suck.

Posted by: wth at July 03, 2025 04:19 PM (v0R5T)

308 Give an illegal a fish he eats for a day.

Deport the illegal you don’t have to teach him to fish.


But you do have to deal with the raw sewage making its way up the coast.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 03, 2025 04:19 PM (Riz8t)

309 Madsen like Biehn, should of had a bigger career.

Whatever that extra thing that separates big actors for could have been big actors, they didn't have.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 03, 2025 04:16 PM (XV/Pl)

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I watched The Abyss for the first time in forever. Biehn's good.

His role is shit, but he's good.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 04:16 PM (GBKbO)
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Tough for even A-Listers to keep it going. There's usually a lull, or a flop or even string of flops. For many if not most, that's basically the end of the line. The bets guys -- the luckiest? -- are able to bounce back or even reinvent themselves. Tom Cruise seems the most obvious example of this.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 03, 2025 04:19 PM (iFTx/)

310 I've waited for a bauxite membership for 20 years, and they're just being handed out like candy.

Posted by: Manuel Labor at July 03, 2025 04:00 PM (Riz8t)

Eh...Bauxite is crap. The real players have the coveted Pot Metal Membership!
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I'm just hoping that one day I get the membership level that lets me post from home!

Posted by: Crusader at July 03, 2025 04:20 PM (TN0g+)

311 Hey I missed the BBB thread.
I just want to say the passing of Trumps bill
gave me a BBB..

heh heh

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at July 03, 2025 04:20 PM (DwKKA)

312 Decimal Points, how do they work?

Posted by: AutoPen Juggalo at July 03, 2025 04:20 PM (FhXTo)

313 Whatever that extra thing that separates big actors for could have been big actors, they didn't have.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 03, 2025 04:16 PM (XV/Pl)

You see, if you want those really big roles and the stardom that comes with it, you have to be wiling to go the extra mile. Like in that movie, "Deliverance".

Posted by: The Casting Couch at July 03, 2025 04:20 PM (R/m4+)

314 I'm just hoping that one day I get the membership level that lets me post from home!

Posted by: Crusader at July 03, 2025 04:20 PM (TN0g+)

Send me your IP address at home. I'll poke around and see if it can be fixed.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at July 03, 2025 04:21 PM (L5An7)

315 My contention is that the Left hasn't nearly the support the Machines in the Blue Cities make it seem.
Honest elections, and the Dems go the way of the Whigs.
Posted by: MkY at July 03, 2025 04:15 PM (cPGH3)

After 2030 census, current speculation is that 14 House seats will switch from blue states to red.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 03, 2025 04:21 PM (uWKK8)

316 310 I've waited for a bauxite membership for 20 years, and they're just being handed out like candy.

Posted by: Manuel Labor at July 03, 2025 04:00 PM (Riz8t)

Eh...Bauxite is crap. The real players have the coveted Pot Metal Membership!


I have the hemp membership.

Posted by: Tom Massie at July 03, 2025 04:21 PM (/U5Yz)

317 We were governed for four years by treacherous slobs.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 03, 2025 04:18 PM (WHfpM)
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I feel with every fiber of my being that those who ruled us the last 4 years were actively seeking to destroy this nation.

Posted by: Crusader at July 03, 2025 04:21 PM (TN0g+)

318 So, are social security retirement payments free from taxation now? And if so, is that retroactive to Jan 1?
Posted by: Martini Farmer
......

Who knows? Certainly not the critters who voted on it.

Posted by: wth at July 03, 2025 04:22 PM (v0R5T)

319 @298

>>I watched The Abyss for the first time in forever. Biehn's good.


I would classify Biehn's acting as, regular joe acting.

He never seemed to be putting on something or doing something.

Like Nicholson, was doing something, putting something on.

If you watch a Nicholson flick in certain mood, they all become comedies.

The Shining is a straight up comedy now.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 03, 2025 04:22 PM (XV/Pl)

320 It all depends on the actual circumstances. I have a vision of some auditor going out to the field facility, coming in and finding [ . . . [
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 03, 2025 04:18 PM (uWKK


More likely pot-bellied pigs or fainting goats.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 03, 2025 04:22 PM (D7oie)

321 Send me your IP address at home. I'll poke around and see if it can be fixed.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at July 03, 2025 04:21 PM (L5An7)
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Thank you Sir, I'll do it! I'll be home this weekend.

Posted by: Crusader at July 03, 2025 04:22 PM (TN0g+)

322 I might have missed this story about Lloyd Austin's new endeavor -

>Politico, 6/30/25, Senators slam Lloyd Austin over new consulting firm
Sens. Elizabeth Warren and Rick Scott say the former Defense secretary is violating the public trust by going into the influence business.

>Federal News Network, July 3, 2025, in part
"A bipartisan group of lawmakers is demanding answers from former Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin about his decision to launch a new strategic advisory firm. In a letter, the senators want clarity on Austin’s new role, whether he will register as a lobbyist and if any clients hold contracts with the DoD.

They also want to know if Austin will recuse himself from matters involving companies he worked with during his tenure and whether his clients could benefit from his security clearance."

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 03, 2025 04:22 PM (NFX2v)

323 something nood

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 03, 2025 04:23 PM (GBKbO)

324 I might have missed this story about Lloyd Austin's new endeavor -

>Politico, 6/30/25, Senators slam Lloyd Austin over new consulting firm
Sens. Elizabeth Warren and Rick Scott say the former Defense secretary is violating the public trust by going into the influence business.

>Federal News Network, July 3, 2025, in part
"A bipartisan group of lawmakers is demanding answers from former Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin about his decision to launch a new strategic advisory firm. In a letter, the senators want clarity on Austin’s new role, whether he will register as a lobbyist and if any clients hold contracts with the DoD.

They also want to know if Austin will recuse himself from matters involving companies he worked with during his tenure and whether his clients could benefit from his security clearance."
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I'd also inquire whether his new role would involve his wearing that really, really stupid uniform?

Posted by: Crusader at July 03, 2025 04:25 PM (TN0g+)

325 “Jerome Powell’s $2.5B Building Renovation Scandal stinks to high heaven, and he lied when asked about the specifics before Congress. This is nothing short of malfeasance and is worthy of ‘for cause,’” Pulte continued.
...

The revelations are controversial at a time when the Fed is struggling with mounting losses, which stand at a total of $233 billion from the past three years.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 03, 2025 04:25 PM (L5Ij1)

326 Politico, 6/30/25, Senators slam Lloyd Austin over new consulting firm

Wasn't Austin on his deathbed with a cancerous prostate the size of a watermelon just last year?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 03, 2025 04:26 PM (/U5Yz)

327 Martini Farmer,
"The BBB Bill includes several provisions related to Social Security and seniors. One notable provision raises the standard deduction for people over age 65 to $6,000, which could provide a $600 annual benefit to most seniors, who either pay no income tax or are in the 10 percent tax bracket.
This increase in the standard deduction is designed to indirectly shield more Social Security income from federal taxes for lower- and middle-income retirees, although it phases out for individuals earning more than $75,000 and married couples earning above $150,000."

I think this will apply to your 2025 taxes due.

Posted by: whig at July 03, 2025 04:26 PM (ctrM5)

328 300. Posted by Martini Farmer

No Tax on Social Security is a Reality in the One Big Beautiful Bill, The White House, July 1, 2025

Under the One Big Beautiful Bill, the vast majority of senior citizens — 88% of all seniors who receive Social Security — will pay NO TAX on their Social Security benefits, according to a brand new analysis from the Council of Economic Advisers.

Charts follow.
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Look at the charts in the 'brand new analysis.'

I don't see anything retroactive.

Aren't many SS recipients already due to get retroactive SS offset/WP money back through this year?
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(Wish I got SS.)

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 03, 2025 04:31 PM (NFX2v)

329 My contention is that the Left hasn't nearly the support the Machines in the Blue Cities make it seem.
Honest elections, and the Dems go the way of the Whigs.
Posted by: MkY
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I'll have to change my nic to Ghost of Whig by that reasoning.

Posted by: whig at July 03, 2025 04:31 PM (ctrM5)

330 326. Wasn't Austin on his deathbed with a cancerous prostate the size of a watermelon just last year?
Posted by: Maj. Healey

Maybe. 🤷‍♀️

It was always difficult to tell if/when they were being honest.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 03, 2025 04:35 PM (NFX2v)

331 People suck.
Posted by: wth at July 03, 2025 04:19 PM


Well, some do.

Posted by: Willie B. at July 03, 2025 04:54 PM (PQclV)

332 > Give an illegal a fish he eats for a day.
Deport the illegal you don’t have to teach him to fish.

Send him to Alligator Alcatraz and he just might feed the fish.

Posted by: comradearthur at July 03, 2025 05:14 PM (OdNzD)

333 They do enjoy their Green with lots of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ on it

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at July 03, 2025 06:02 PM (wGqjj)

334 1. Thanks, Ace!; 2. I don't mind "Jim Varney" - he was very nice when I talked to him once in the 80s; 3. No, this money is *separate* from the "gold bars* O'Keefe's video referred to. That was the $27 billion the EPA gave out. But both that $27 bil and this $93 bil came primarily from the Inflation Reduction Act.

Posted by: James Varney at July 03, 2025 09:26 PM (BFhXu)

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