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aceofspadeshq at gee mail.com CBD: cbd at cutjibnewsletter.com Buck: buck.throckmorton at protonmail.com joe mannix: mannix2024 at proton.me MisHum: petmorons at gee mail.com J.J. Sefton: sefton at cutjibnewsletter.com | Saturday Evening Movie Thread - 7/19/2025Yasujiro Ozu ![]() Hyperbole has the opposite intended effect most of the time. We live in a saturated information age where anyone has a voice, and every voice wants to be heard. You don't get attention by saying something is pretty good. You have to be loud, and saying things are the greatest or worst things ever becomes ever-present, making each successive declaration less convincing than the last. So, when someone with a (tiny) voice discovers something they genuinely think may be one of the best ever, one must be careful, especially if that thing is fairly far removed from the audience's expectations. When considering the top-most tier of talent behind the camera of film history, one is met with titans. Akira Kurosawa. Charlie Chaplin. Martin Scorsese. Federico Fellini. Ingmar Bergman. Steven Spielberg. John Ford. Men who shaped the medium, made great art, and entertained millions. But sometimes, you encounter someone quieter, less assuming, and more refined (I use that word very specifically), and you realize that perhaps the greatest of them is someone fewer people take notice of. Yasujiro Ozu was one of the earliest of Japanese feature filmmakers, beginning his filmmaking directing career in 1927 (in the American context, I would consider him second generation like Howard Hawks). By the time Akira Kurosawa was a young director, Ozu was a titan in the Japanese filmmaking world, able to override Imperial censorship objections of Kurosawa's The Men Who Tread on Tiger's Tails through simple praise of the work at the censorship meeting as recounted by Kurosawa in his (something like an) autobiography. He'd dominated the Japanese film world artistically for years, winning the Japanese equivalent of the Best Picture Oscar (the Kinema Junpo Award) a total of six times, including three years in a row (1932-1934). And yet, his films are deceptively simple. Once he gained as full control as one can in the industry, roughly the mid-30s, he made, almost exclusively, quiet family dramas with little obvious visual flair. It was these kinds of movies that moved him from critical darling to box office champion in Japan. This was happening concurrently while the aforementioned Kurosawa was bringing Western filmmaking technique (and advancing it on his own) to action movies in the same country with movies like The Hidden Fortress and Yojimbo. And yet, Ozu's films were just as popular in Japan. Now, books have been written about Ozu, his Zen influences, and his technique. One major reason I decided to dig into Ozu's work, of which I was passingly familiar beforehand, was reading Paul Schrader's Transcendental Style in Film, a largely academic work he wrote in his twenties that features Ozu prominently. I'm not going to dig into that stuff in any significant manner in this essay (though, I imagine an unwritten book to be had would be about the use of clothing). This is more of an introduction, an effort to get people unfamiliar with even his name to check him out. I think, though, that it's going to be a challenge. Pacing ![]() Pacing is how quickly information and events happen in a story. Most of us have been conditioned through our entertainment choices to expect a certain, elevated pacing, a constant movement of plot to get to the next point. I think it's a key point of growth when we move beyond that to realize a simple truth: slower films can be engrossing, too. In Paul Schrader's book, he also has a chapter on Robert Bresson, and the Criterion Collection interviewed Schrader for their home video release of Bresson's Pickpocket. In that interview, Schrader briefly touches on the idea of pacing, using an example of the main character passing through a door, how Bresson lingers too long before the character enters the shot and cuts too late, especially when the shot afterwards starts too early, to establish how Bresson uses pacing to affect something specific from his audience (unease, mostly). I mention it only because I can link to video easily and people will be more likely to click on it. (The below embed starts at 9:30 and where Schrader begins talking about pacing.) Schrader also discusses pacing when writing about Ozu in his book, and it's something I remember Stephen Prince, the film scholar who taught at Virginia Tech, talking about when he taught Tokyo Story in his survey class. Ozu will start scenes with shots of empty rooms that will linger for a second or two before a character walks in. Scenes will end with characters walking out of a room and Ozu lingers on that empty room for a second before cutting to the next scene. Much like Bresson, there's a purpose to this, even if the purpose is very different. Ozu doesn't want to create distance or discomfort. He uses his pacing to do the exact opposite. Everything about how Ozu makes his films is about getting the audience settled into the reality of his films, and his pacing is about helping you feel like you are there, like you are sitting in the room as an observer, not filtering your view of the action through the choices of someone else (though this, of course, is a choice on his part which starts a rabbit hole I'm never going to go down). However, there's another reason he does this, and it's introspection. His films never stop. They're always moving, but they're moving in small ways. Conversations occur where characters advance their little stories, by the end almost always about parents trying to marry off their adult daughter, and progressing from one action to the next (many key actions, like the meeting of characters, can happen off screen). However, after moments of drama, like an argument, he'll always go quiet so that people can reflect on what has just happened. The example I keep coming back to comes from his film The Flavor of Green Tea Over Rice, a story of a childless, middle-aged couple who invite their niece to join them for a short time. The niece, observing the relationship and finding it unfair to her uncle, stirs things up which brings out some simmering issues between man and wife. Near the end of the film, after an argument where the uncle lists how his wife henpecks him about everything (including the titular spilling of sauces over rice which she considers gauche and provincial) they stop talking. Instead, they decide that it's time for a late-night snack. So, Ozu, mostly in one wide-shot of their kitchen, watches as the pair bring plates and bowls out of cupboards, placing them on a tray, and collecting their rice from their ohitsu, and then they bring it into their living room where they sit on the floor and begin to eat. What was accomplished by this look at the mundane reality of collecting things for a late-night snack? Time was accomplished. Time for both characters and audience to reflect on the magnitude of what was said and realize that, despite the heat of the moment, it wasn't that important. That there was still love there, love we'd seen peek through the film, and giving them space to reconnect. The slow and steady pacing of his films, of people largely calmly talking to each other in rooms, has this cumulative effect that define his films and make them work emotionally. They require patience, especially from the perspective of an American weened on American cinema of the last 50 years, but that patience is rewarded in the end. Growth in the Industry ![]() The one thing to keep in mind about Ozu is that he repeats himself a lot. The only other filmmaker I've explored who repeats themselves nearly this much was Howard Hawks who kept making movies about love triangles between two men in a dangerous profession and the woman who loved them both. With Ozu, whose career is largely defined by his post-WWII work, it's mostly about small family dramas. His career started differently, though. All but three of his films were made with the same studio, Shochiku Films, and he was very much a studio director, especially in his silent period. From 1927 to 1935 he made thirty-three silent feature films (only thirteen of them are extant with one more only missing two reels), and he jumped from genre to genre. There were a lot of gangster movies, crime movies, and melodramas. It was here where he let most of his cinematic influences fly the most freely, especially the works of Alfred Hitchcock (evidenced with heavy shadow work like in That Night's Wife) or Ernst Lubitsch (like the style of comedy in The Lady and the Beard), but through it all, knowing what's to come, it's easy to see Ozu exerting himself over his films to bend them to what he naturally wanted to do through the art of cinema. So, take the crime example of That Night's Wife, the story of a man who robs a bank to pay for medicine for his sick daughter, followed by home by a policeman, and most of the film is people kind of just staring at each other as they wait out the night to see if she gets better (there's some exchanges of ownership of a gun to help keep the tension up). That whole backend of the film in one room feels very Ozu in a crime film context. And he was greatly respected in the film industry for what he did. It took some time until he met consistent commercial success (I've read that his first "box office success" was Brothers and Sisters of the Toda Family, which came out in 1941, something I can't really verify because I can't find box office returns for Japan in the 1930s and 40s), but it was obvious that he was using his growing influence to tell stories he wanted to tell, and those trended towards the family drama. By the time WWII was over, though, the Imperial Japanese censorship regime was dead, replaced by an American occupation censorship regime, and Ozu's brand of small, family drama fit in well with the American propaganda concerns in the nation (one of Kurosawa's films of this period, No Regrets for Our Youth, is all about how militarism is bad and farming is good). It was the perfect period for Ozu to use his clout within the industry to make the films he wanted. Refinement ![]() And he wanted to make one movie. He wanted to make it over and over again. It was the story of a widowed parent trying to convince his or her adult daughter to marry and move out of the house. There were definite exceptions (mostly when he would loan himself out to other studios, Shintoho for The Munekata Sisters, an adaptation of a melodramatic book, Daiei for Floating Weeds, a remake of his own silent A Story of Floating Weeds, and Toho for The End of Summer, an excuse to work with as many Toho regulars as possible). And, of course, his most famous film, Tokyo Story, isn't about it. However, Late Spring, Early Summer, Equinox Flower, Late Autumn, and An Autumn Afternoon are all about parents trying to marry off their daughters. And that kind of repetition can often be dismissed by people. Why doesn't he do something new? I remember this being hurled at Wes Anderson right about the time that The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou came out, stylistically extremely similar to The Royal Tenenbaums, and I found it curious. I enjoyed both films, even if they were stylistically very similar with thematic concerns around daddy-issues. Wasn't the point that the films were good? That was the point for Ozu. And so he created his own personal music box, "a little box where the same actors play the same characters, playing the same plots over and over again. Comfortable, yet emotionally involving," as Mark Andrew Edwards put it, who went along for most of the journey with me. And it works. The gentle way he could create characters, elide the biggest events and focus on the smaller build ups and aftereffects, all while quietly inviting the audience to just sit down on the tatami mat like a family member creates this world of a not quite real Tokyo, too nice to be reality, but full of true human emotions that are there for those willing to sit on that tatami. And I think you should. Sitting Down on the Tatami ![]() So, imagine for a moment that I've intrigued you. Where do you begin? Start with his most famous film, Tokyo Story. The story of two elderly parents who try and spend a week with their two children and their deceased son's wife in the eponymous city, getting shuffled around because life happens, never really connecting with their children but being understanding about it the whole time. It's a marvelous film, but you have to be ready for the rhythms of Ozu's cinematic grammar. And that's why I start with such hesitation. How many will say, "Sure, I'll try this," see a five-minute long scene of two old people packing, and just be turned off because "nothing's happening"? I wish I had the authority to just say, "Watch this," and people would be patient with whatever I recommended, but that's not the case. You're more likely to dismiss my recommendations blind than accept them, so I gingerly describe what Ozu's films are like, how they work, why they came about, and hope that those of you who read through and feel like there's something there in Ozu's work that interests you won't be surprised when you do finally try. That's not going to be all of you. I doubt it's most of you. Heck, I doubt it's a significant portion of you. However, for those few of you who do think that Ozu's music boxes of repeating characters, actors, and plots sounds intriguing and have never discovered it, well...start with Tokyo Story. The whole thing is on archive.org for some reason. Also, my personal favorite Ozu film, Late Autumn, is also available on archive.org in full. And for those interested in Schrader's take on Ozu, there's the book itself, Transcendental Style in Film, which you can find anywhere to buy, but there's also this 26-minute long video of him summarizing the new introduction he wrote a few years ago to the book he wrote in his youth in the early 70s. The book is an academic text, but I found it engrossing and interesting. Another Voice Mark Andrew Edwards decided to go along on this journey with me, watching as much of Ozu's filmography as he could, and he ended up writing an essay of his own. Mark and I don't always agree on movies, and there were Ozu films that we found some distance between ourselves on, but Ozu's films obviously ended up meaning something to him as well. So, I want to end with an observation from his essay (which you can read in full here): "But we are in the room, an invisible ghost, a trusted friend of the family, allowed to see everything, knowing we aren't there to interfere, but just share and learn, maybe to commemorate, maybe to celebrate silently with them. And sometimes, we leave the characters and contemplate the natural world outside, drifting along with the wind memorably in one instance. His films aren't in a hurry to hustle us outside or on to the next spectacle. There's no big drama, just little dramas, of life. Life moving on. Ozu stories don't end, the camera is just turned off. All these characters are going on, living their life even after our observation ends." Movies of Today Opening in Theaters: I Know What You Did Last Summer Eddington Smurfs Movies I Saw This Fortnight: Late Autumn (Rating 4/4) Full Review "The combination of light comedy and clear-eyed character work that drives the drama creates this emotional impact and catharsis by the end that carries me for the final half-hour. It's subtle, deeply moving, funny, a remarkable film. It's one of the greats." [The Criterion Channel] The End of Summer (Rating 3/4) Full Review "So, it's good. Ozu was simply far too skilled at this point to make anything less than that. However, this feels like a film bred from something other than his desire to refine his technique, an attempt to take advantage of a unique professional situation rather than a story he needed to tell once more, though it does share a lot of the same motifs." [The Criterion Channel] An Autumn Afternoon (Rating 4/4) Full Review "I loved this film. Absolutely loved it. If Late Autumn hadn't hit me so hard, I'd be calling this Ozu's best work in a body of work that includes Tokyo Story. And that's why I wanted Ozu to live and work another 30 years. He could make the same story of a parent giving away a daughter repeatedly forever, and I'd watch and enjoy them forever." [The Criterion Channel] The Young Stranger (Rating 4/4) Full Review "It doesn't surprise me that no one searches out Frankenheimer's first film, a small family drama he made in the middle of his television career before Birdman of Alcatraz with no movie stars and not at all genre related. But, I think that should be fixed." [YouTube] The Young Savages (Rating 2.5/4) Full Review "There's a lot to admire in the first two-thirds of the film. The last third, though, simply fumbles things uncompellingly with a combination of bad courtroom antics and intentional obfuscation." [Prime] Birdman of Alcatraz (Rating 3/4) Full Review "It's how the film can never quite separate itself from the fact that it's almost as much an issue piece as it is a human interest piece. However, the human interest side wins out in the end. It's a nice, easy little fantasy about the strength of the human heart, and not much else." [YouTube] Seven Days in May (Rating 4/4) Full Review "It exists in something of a fantasy world where the military would orchestrate a coup without the CIA, the USSR is remotely trustworthy, and a disarmament treaty had any chance at all of passing the Senate in the early 60s. Still, within that fantasy world, this is a banger of a thriller. Dr. Strangelove had a better handle on the real world situation, though." [Personal Collection] The Train (Rating 4/4) Full Review "And that makes The Train a complete package of a film. Entertaining on the surface but thoughtful just underneath, expertly filmed and wonderfully performed, especially by Lancaster and Scofield, it's John Frankenheimer's greatest achievement." [Personal Collection] Contact Email any suggestions or questions to thejamesmadison.aos at symbol gmail dot com. I've also archived all the old posts here, by request. I'll add new posts a week after they originally post at the HQ. My next post will be on 8/9, and it will be about ___. Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)1
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Posted by: Open Channel D at July 19, 2025 07:46 PM (kZEmF) 2
Apropos of nothing, James Gunn’s dog is named Ozu and is the inspiration for Krypto in the new Superman movie.
Posted by: Open Channel D at July 19, 2025 07:48 PM (kZEmF) 3
Movie thread!
Posted by: Darth Randall at July 19, 2025 07:50 PM (f1kZG) 4
I saw Tokyo Story during a film appreciation class I took many years ago as an undergraduate. I didn’t appreciate it at the time—“too slow”, “nothing is happening”—but I think it might hit differently now.
Posted by: Open Channel D at July 19, 2025 07:53 PM (kZEmF) 5
Nooded.
Posted by: Nazdar at July 19, 2025 07:54 PM (NcvvS) Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 19, 2025 07:54 PM (u73oe) 7
Scads of tomatoes, not scars of tomatoes....geeeeesh!
Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at July 19, 2025 07:56 PM (P0m9n) 8
Very interesting. Thank you.
Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at July 19, 2025 07:59 PM (P0m9n) 9
4 I saw Tokyo Story during a film appreciation class I took many years ago as an undergraduate. I didn’t appreciate it at the time—“too slow”, “nothing is happening”—but I think it might hit differently now.
Posted by: Open Channel D at July 19, 2025 07:53 PM (kZEmF) ==== Link is in the post for the whole thing at archive! Do watch. I think you may be ready for its quiet movements. Posted by: TJM's phone at July 19, 2025 07:59 PM (eDVuN) 10
Godzilla Minus One contains several static low level shots that are probably inspired by if not an homage to Ozu.
Posted by: Open Channel D at July 19, 2025 08:01 PM (kZEmF) 11
Ah,... "The Train" is one of my favorites. Paul Scofield steals every scene he's in...and not just that film. Every scene.
Posted by: Orson at July 19, 2025 08:01 PM (dIske) 12
another thing about Ozu is his different take on scene continuity the placement of bottles on tables during over the shoulder conversations is the same in frame with different characters to isolate the cut on the subject
Posted by: Josh Brolin's Blistered Taint at July 19, 2025 08:02 PM (CSwR9) 13
They redid I know what you did last summer? Hadn't they already tried to reboot that before?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 19, 2025 08:04 PM (zZu0s) 14
I've seen Floating Weeds and Tokyo Story, but darned if I remember anything about them.
Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at July 19, 2025 08:08 PM (klf3J) 15
Perfect Days is one of the best films I’ve seen in the last few years. About a man who cleans public toilets in Tokyo. Reminds me very much of Ozu. Simple. Patient. No dumb “hook” or whatever screenwriting texts tell you a good story must have.
On the other end of the spectrum, is Superman worth seeing? Posted by: Lex at July 19, 2025 08:09 PM (y4H1r) 16
Nice write up TMJ. Are all these fins sub-titled or dubbed in English?
Posted by: polynikes at July 19, 2025 08:09 PM (VofaG) 17
Thx TJM. Can't say I'm familiar with Ozu. Have to check him out. Always thought Kurosawa was an amazing filmmaker.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 19, 2025 08:11 PM (egMwa) 18
I like American films that just tell a story.
Dan In Real Life is one that I like to watch anytime I come across it. Posted by: polynikes at July 19, 2025 08:11 PM (VofaG) 19
16 Nice write up TMJ. Are all these fins sub-titled or dubbed in English?
Posted by: polynikes at July 19, 2025 08:09 PM (VofaG) ==== Subtitled is all I've seen. Posted by: TJM's phone at July 19, 2025 08:12 PM (eDVuN) 20
I love Ozu's films though admittedly I'm not always in the mood for them.
"Tokyo Story" is a great recommendation as a starting point to enter his world. There's a fair amount of low key drama that involves conflicting visions between the older and younger generations all played out in a mood of quiet tragedy. For me there's something of "King Lear" in this quiet, well-mannered story of children who don't recognize their responsibilities to their parents but only the parents' responsibilities to them. If you can plug into Ozu's vibe, he almost always tells a wonderful story. Posted by: naturalfake at July 19, 2025 08:13 PM (iJfKG) Posted by: polynikes at July 19, 2025 08:14 PM (VofaG) 22
I thoroughly enjoyed Superman. It is not “woke” at all and is really a very conservative movie. Yes, Superman is an immigrant (refugee actually) but his assimilation to the America of salt-of-the-earth Kansas farmers is the heart of the movie. Corenswet is my favorite Superman since Reeve and the experience of seeing the movie tonally reminded me of seeing Superman II on opening weekend when I was a kid.
Posted by: Open Channel D at July 19, 2025 08:16 PM (kZEmF) 23
Perfect Days is one of the best films I’ve seen in the last few years. About a man who cleans public toilets in Tokyo. Reminds me very much of Ozu. Simple. Patient. No dumb “hook” or whatever screenwriting texts tell you a good story must have.
I felt the same way. I'm pretty sure that this was Wim Wenders imitating Ozu's esthetic. Posted by: naturalfake at July 19, 2025 08:16 PM (iJfKG) Posted by: polynikes at July 19, 2025 08:18 PM (VofaG) 25
Not familiar with Ozu at all. Criterion Channel seems to have a bunch of his, Tokyo Story included -- into the watchlist, which I may actually dip into some time this week.
Thanks for the recommendations. Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 19, 2025 08:18 PM (q3u5l) 26
But sometimes, you encounter someone quieter, less assuming, and more refined (I use that word very specifically), and you realize that perhaps the greatest of them is someone fewer people take notice of.
==== Terrence Malick? Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2025 08:18 PM (JvZF+) 27
This....turned out to be relevant to my interests.
I am into Japanese cinema but I'd never watched Tokyo Story or any of Ozu's other films. And thanks to TJM's series, and the Internet Archive, I did and I'm glad I did. I still have a few films left to see but it's really changed my perceptions as the series went on. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 19, 2025 08:22 PM (xcxpd) 28
When Papa Smurf is taken by evil wizards Razamel and Gargamel, Smurfette leads the Smurfs on a mission to the real world to save him. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 19, 2025 08:22 PM (63Dwl) 29
25 Not familiar with Ozu at all. Criterion Channel seems to have a bunch of his, Tokyo Story included -- into the watchlist, which I may actually dip into some time this week.
Thanks for the recommendations. Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 19, 2025 08:18 PM (q3u5l) === They have everything he made except his earliest surviving feature, Days of Youth. Posted by: TJM's phone at July 19, 2025 08:23 PM (eDVuN) 30
I read the content and while I will probably never see any of these movies I really appreciate the work and analysis that TJM puts into his subjects.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 19, 2025 08:24 PM (HFcKg) 31
I had teasingly ragged on TMJ for ‘not telling me’ that the novelist James Clavell was a director and screen writer. I had no clue until I watched To Sir,With Love for the tenth or so time and was the first time I paid attention to who was the director.
He didn’t have a big director catalogue but he also wrote the screenplay to The Great Escape. Feels like some trivia I should have known. Posted by: polynikes at July 19, 2025 08:25 PM (VofaG) 32
And the post reminds me I need to revisit some Kurosawa. Ikiru in particular, I think.
Haven't watched The Train in forever; saw it in the theater when it first came out, but didn't enjoy it as much at 14 as I do now. That last scene between Lancaster and Scofield is terrific. Don't know if it's my favorite Frankenheimer (Manchurian Candidate, Seven Days in May, Seconds...) but it's high on the list. Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 19, 2025 08:26 PM (q3u5l) 33
Thx TJM. Can't say I'm familiar with Ozu. Have to check him out. Always thought Kurosawa was an amazing filmmaker.
Posted by: Smell the Glove ---- I mentioned a week or so ago that I had just watched 'The Outrage', a remake of Akira Kurosawa's 1950 Japanese film 'Rashomon'. I found it rather strange. Hell of a cast though; Paul Newman, Laurence Harvey, Claire Bloom, Edward G. Robinson and William Shatner. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 19, 2025 08:27 PM (XeU6L) 34
I could be remembering wrong, but didn't Clavell also work on the script for the 1958 version of The Fly?
(Heads to IMDb to check...) Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 19, 2025 08:28 PM (q3u5l) 35
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 19, 2025 08:27 PM (XeU6L)
Paul Newman has made some stinkers to go with his great movies. Posted by: polynikes at July 19, 2025 08:29 PM (VofaG) 36
"Get Your Man" (1927) Betrothed Euro noble is hooked and reeled in by deceitful scheming American minx Clara Bow. Dayum she is hawt! If I lived back then I would have totally stalked her. The print I watched, linked by Wikipedia, has some nitrate rot, and reels #2 and #3 missing, but I'm just grateful for the 63 minutes that survived.
"When Worlds Collide" (1951) Worth a watch. One of the rare scifi movies that features an honest-to-goodness genuine computer, in this case the Vannevar Bush Differential Analyzer, a highly advanced calculating foosball table. There's a seemingly simple helicopter stunt in here, with a little kid, that looks really f'n risky to me!! The color palette of George Pal productions always seems distinctively garish, NTTAWWT. youtube.com/watch?v=c_QvhHk_Yu4 Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at July 19, 2025 08:30 PM (klf3J) 37
"The Night the World Exploded" (1957) Title's a fib. If they called it "The Night the World Almost Exploded," nobody would watch it. Besides, even reckless pyrolusting schoolboys know better than to mess around with Element 112, so the whole story is implausible at best.
youtube.com/watch?v=RKRC_BuiAIg "The Fiend of Dope Island" (1961) He's more of an asshole than a fiend. For the squares who don't dig dope, there's plenty of booze too. Movie is saved only by the exotic charm of Yugoslavian Bombshell Tania Velia. Pokazuje svoge sise! youtube.com/watch?v=cWPaFWhlJnQ Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at July 19, 2025 08:30 PM (klf3J) 38
2 Apropos of nothing, James Gunn’s dog is named Ozu and is the inspiration for Krypto in the new Superman movie.
Posted by: Open Channel D at July 19, 2025 07:48 PM (kZEmF) That's a funny coincidence. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 19, 2025 08:30 PM (xcxpd) 39
Haven't watched The Train in forever; saw it in the theater when it first came out, but didn't enjoy it as much at 14 as I do now.
------ I saw it in the theater (Savannah) also. A friend's dad who had been in the war took us to see it. He provided very interesting whispered commentary during the film. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 19, 2025 08:30 PM (XeU6L) 40
"The President's Plane is Missing" (1973) Kind of a drag. Peter Graves, wearing a silvery plastic Devo Hairhelmet, pesters hell out of everybody trying to crack the case. Where does the prez finally turn up? The last place anybody would think to look: Camp David.
youtube.com/watch?v=eUTcLtC3jw8 "The Doomsday Flight" (1966) Story's OK, dialogue is often ungood. Movie unintentionally launched a brief popular mania of cruel teasing of random buck-toothed four-eyed dweebs. Blame Rod Serling. youtube.com/watch?v=wFYaa0HcdZU Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at July 19, 2025 08:30 PM (klf3J) 41
"The Flying Missile" (1951) How the USN sub fleet adopted missile weaponry. Silly story, but lots of authentic footage of sexy vintage rocket and pulsejet tech, including a carrier V2 launch, and the US copy of the V1, nicknamed the Loon.
youtube.com/watch?v=B9Qt3gBU9oY "The Marseilles Contract" (1974) I bailed halfway through. "The Gold Diggers" (1923) This lost film was rediscovered maybe five years ago. The guy who found this print projected it with his very own personal '1906 cinematograph,' and posted a cam of the screen on his YT channel. This technique yields unsatisfactory viewing quality. PUHLEEZE do a proper digital transfer! This is the same play that inspired the later Gold Diggers musicals, but produced with much less zazz. youtube.com/watch?v=yg54vN--mLA "Project Moon Base" (1953) Better than I expected. I imagine the cast grumbled about having to wear the gay AF spaceshorts and spaceskullcaps, but Donna Martell's spacerack is aerodynamically A-OK. Heinlein writing credit. youtube.com/watch?v=fDWeD8uFq8Y Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at July 19, 2025 08:31 PM (klf3J) 42
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 19, 2025 08:28 PM (q3u5l)
Hah. You’re right. He wrote the screenplay. Posted by: polynikes at July 19, 2025 08:31 PM (VofaG) 43
I think 'Late Spring' was the first Ozu movie that really hit me in all the right ways. It's my favorite so far. So that's my endorsement for which one to start with.
One thing that I noticed about Ozu is that he directs his actors so they are like real people. People don't act 'heightened' or in a 'Hollywood' way. They act normal and that's kinda rare. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 19, 2025 08:33 PM (xcxpd) 44
When Worlds Collide is a lot of fun; the only real off-putting thing about it is that shot of the new world after the ship lands. Think I read that there was supposed to be a decent painting (by Chesley Bonestell?) for that landscape and the studio released the movie before that was done, using a garish and absurdly unrealistic place-marker instead. A sin.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 19, 2025 08:34 PM (q3u5l) 45
I'd probably watch more Japanese cinema if I spoke or read Japanese, but alas
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2025 08:34 PM (JvZF+) 46
43 One thing that I noticed about Ozu is that he directs his actors so they are like real people. People don't act 'heightened' or in a 'Hollywood' way. They act normal and that's kinda rare.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 19, 2025 08:33 PM (xcxpd) ==== Chishu Ryu and Setsuko Hara always have these smiles plastered on their faces. Such persistent outward politeness. Posted by: TJM's phone at July 19, 2025 08:35 PM (eDVuN) 47
Surprisingly weak for a caine vehicle (the destructors) with james mason as a foil
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 19, 2025 08:35 PM (bXbFr) 48
Paul Newman’s absolute worse movie was Quintet.
I don’t know what he was thinking. Posted by: polynikes at July 19, 2025 08:35 PM (VofaG) 49
Sometimes stretching is not a good thing
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 19, 2025 08:36 PM (bXbFr) 50
"Think I read that there was supposed to be a decent painting (by Chesley Bonestell?) for that landscape"
Check out the recent Sotheby's auction of astronaut stuff. The vintage SF artwork was fetching far more than genuine flown NASA space hardware! Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at July 19, 2025 08:37 PM (klf3J) 51
Posted by: TJM's phone at July 19, 2025 08:35 PM (eDVuN)
That’s Japanese culture. It caused a lot of problems for me handling claims for them when they got in auto accidents . They always apologized when it wasn’t their fault. Posted by: polynikes at July 19, 2025 08:37 PM (VofaG) Posted by: Anna Puma at July 19, 2025 08:41 PM (GPcGP) 53
probably watch more Japanese cinema if I spoke or read Japanese, but alas
Use your fingers to squint your eyes. Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 19, 2025 08:41 PM (U0f2i) 54
Rashomon was an awesome film. Have never seen The Outrage. Yojimbo was another great Kurosawa film. Once read that one of his favorite films was A Trip to Bountiful. He liked simple good storytelling
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 19, 2025 08:42 PM (egMwa) 55
uh oh
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 19, 2025 08:42 PM (GPcGP) 56
53 Ha!
Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at July 19, 2025 08:42 PM (klf3J) Posted by: Anna Puma at July 19, 2025 08:44 PM (GPcGP) 58
Netflix generally blows these days. Their original stuff, which they push relentlessly, is 90% junk. They never should have cancelled their DVD service. They probably had five Ozu movies in the library.
The best one can hope for is when they release a film from 10-20 years ago I never saw at the time. In that vein, I’ve very much enjoying The Place Beyond the Pines. Posted by: Lex at July 19, 2025 08:44 PM (y4H1r) 59
I have tempted fate twice, I think I shall meander off before I do a full gainer right into the Barrel.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 19, 2025 08:44 PM (GPcGP) Posted by: Anna Puma at July 19, 2025 08:46 PM (GPcGP) 61
@48 Quintet was like Zardoz on ice. Altman must have been real stoned when he directed that one
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 19, 2025 08:46 PM (egMwa) 62
The most foreign films I have watched have been Israeli.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 19, 2025 08:47 PM (HFcKg) 63
Late 60s, I think, the Chicago PBS station WTTW used to run foreign films on Friday nights. Caught Yojimbo then, and Alphaville (which made no sense to me at all at the time, and decades later still left me thinking wtf), Jules and Jim, Harakiri, and others. Doubt they still do anything like that, but it was awfully nice at the time -- saw stuff I'd never run across anywhere else in my Chicago Lawn/SW suburbs movie houses.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 19, 2025 08:47 PM (q3u5l) 64
My eyes read that name as Chesty Boneswell, which should be a Bond girl name.
Posted by: Open Channel D at July 19, 2025 08:50 PM (kZEmF) 65
"Alphaville" (1965) No Sir. I don't like it.
youtube.com/watch?v=cDGlN6mluGA Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs, Guest Hosted By Mister Horse at July 19, 2025 08:50 PM (klf3J) 66
Another winner of the Kinema Junpo's Best Picture?
The War at Sea from Hawaii to Malaya that was released in 1942. It used extensive miniatures to recreate the attack on Pearl Harbor and other battles. Posted by: Anna Puma at July 19, 2025 08:52 PM (GPcGP) 67
They've gotten to the smurfs. Too bad.
They've actually gotten to a lot of old Saturday morning properties. Not Gi Joe or Transformers. Thundercats. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 19, 2025 08:54 PM (Yamow) 68
"The War at Sea from Hawaii to Malaya" (1942) Added to my list! Thanks, Anna!!
m.ok.ru/video/6218864462415 Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at July 19, 2025 08:55 PM (klf3J) 69
I've been watching a Brit mystery series entitled Death Valley (for some inexplicable reason) which is comedy /drama /mystery (a comdramystery?) set in Wales because English, Scottish, and Irish aren't confusing enough. If you're a Monk /Psyche fan, you'll probably like this. Ambitious but goofy young cop Janie Mallowan runs into old retired actor John Chapel who had starred in Janie's favorite TV show as Detective Caesar. He is a crumudgeonly widower who is a witness in one of Janey's murder cases. Turns out, because of his extensive experience as an actor, he has a unique insight into the human psyche and helps with her cases. Of course, like Monk and Psyche, it is often over the top but, if you can get past that, it's pretty entertaining.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Lying Dogface Pony Soldier at July 19, 2025 08:56 PM (L/fGl) Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 19, 2025 08:56 PM (Vh9CX) 71
Bonestell did a LOT of space landscape art as I recall. Think quite a few Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction covers used Bonestell's work; some of the other magazines too. His illustrations were the center of Roy Gallant's popular astronomy books for kids in the 50s and early 60s. And I wish I still had these, but within a year after Sputnik went up there were Space Cards, bubble gum trading cards depicting outer space scenes, pictures of the rockets, etc -- lotta Bonestell in those, just great stuff.
Think there was a documentary on him a while back; might still be on Prime somewhere. And yeah, the name does invite some mis-hearing, doesn't it? Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 19, 2025 08:56 PM (q3u5l) 72
I will once again put in a plug for the works of Eddie Romero, who cranked out fare for American drive-ins. Working in the Philippines, he made movies with budgets so low that Roger Corman would be envious.
If you look past the laughable special effects and the topless native maidens, you see a craftsman doing a great job with what he had to work with. Periodically, collections of his work are available at Amazon. Look for "Blood Island" and prepare to be shocked at the asking price for out of print editions. Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at July 19, 2025 08:57 PM (eIjvK) 73
I'm anxiously awaiting the Banana Splits movie.
Posted by: That BS Guy at July 19, 2025 08:57 PM (vFG9F) 74
They are trying to make a live action Thundercats but so far it has been as successful as one of Mum-Ra's plots.
Transformers with Megan Fox. Then there was GI Joe:Rise of Cobra. So yes two out of three have been mucked up badly. Posted by: Anna Puma at July 19, 2025 08:59 PM (GPcGP) 75
I saw the .ru link for the film GP and went 'I'll pass.'
The special effects guy for that movie is more well known for his later work with a certain radioactive dinosaur named Gojira. Posted by: Anna Puma at July 19, 2025 09:00 PM (GPcGP) 76
One thing that I noticed about Ozu is that he directs his actors so they are like real people. People don't act 'heightened' or in a 'Hollywood' way. They act normal and that's kinda rare.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 19, 2025 08:33 PM (xcxpd) ==== Chishu Ryu and Setsuko Hara always have these smiles plastered on their faces. Such persistent outward politeness. Posted by: TJM's phone at July 19, 2025 08:35 PM (eDVuN) Ah but with Chishu Ryu, you trust his smile, even if you see the pain behind it. With Setsuko Hara, you are trying to figure out what she's really thinking and feeling. He struck gold with some of his actors, like those two. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 19, 2025 09:01 PM (xcxpd) 77
So yes two out of three have been mucked up badly.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 19, 2025 08:59 PM (GPcGP) Yeah, transformers and GI Joe might have been crap, but not woke. Just crappy. Like ewe boll(sp?) Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 19, 2025 09:01 PM (Yamow) 78
Haven't watched The Train in forever; saw it in the theater when it first came out, but didn't enjoy it as much at 14 as I do now.
- That's a great movie. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Lying Dogface Pony Soldier at July 19, 2025 09:01 PM (L/fGl) 79
I watched the RiffTrax version of "Karate Tigers 2" last weekend. I loved it. It was dumb, and glorious. It had Cynthia Rothrock, some lame kid, and a knock-off of a young Harrison Ford. It was half-kung-fu movie, half-Rambo knock-off.
Basically, a girl gets kidnapped in post-Vietnam Cambodia. The girl's American boyfriend (the kid) must team up with Rockrock and the Faux-Ford arms dealer to rescue her. Really fun, if you're okay with RiffTrax-quality B-movies. Posted by: Castle Guy at July 19, 2025 09:01 PM (Lhaco) 80
13 They redid I know what you did last summer? Hadn't they already tried to reboot that before?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 19, 2025 08:04 PM (zZu0s) The “reboot” is the final redoubt of the uncreative. Posted by: Cow Demon at July 19, 2025 09:03 PM (vm8sq) 81
Posted Vietnam Cambodia. So posted Pol Pot and Khymer Rouge?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 19, 2025 09:03 PM (Yamow) 82
There’s gotta be a Godzilla story in there somewhere.
- “Godzilla Minus One” Sequel Could Arrive Sooner Than Expected Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Lying Dogface Pony Soldier at July 19, 2025 09:03 PM (L/fGl) 83
Post, phone. Not Posted.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 19, 2025 09:03 PM (Yamow) 84
Aetius
Speaking of mucking up an IP. Taiki Wahiti has been rumored to be helming the next Judge Dredd. I think a Mr. Stallone and a Mr. Urban need to pay him a visit. For consulting purposes. Posted by: Anna Puma at July 19, 2025 09:03 PM (GPcGP) 85
75 I get a lot of picks from you morons, but that one is especially tasty! Never heard of it before.
Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at July 19, 2025 09:04 PM (klf3J) 86
Really fun, if you're okay with RiffTrax-quality B-movies. Posted by: Castle Guy Can't handle RiffTrax when they use British accents. Mary Jo doesn't do much for me either. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 19, 2025 09:05 PM (63Dwl) 87
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When Papa Smurf is taken by evil wizards Razamel and Gargamel, Smurfette leads the Smurfs on a mission to the real world to save him. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 19, 2025 08:22 PM (63Dwl) Well, Smurfette did start out as a creation of Gargamel, so…. ![]() Posted by: Cow Demon at July 19, 2025 09:05 PM (vm8sq) 88
Speaking of mucking up an IP.
Taiki Wahiti has been rumored to be helming the next Judge Dredd. I think a Mr. Stallone and a Mr. Urban need to pay him a visit. For consulting purposes. Posted by: Anna Puma at July 19, 2025 09:03 PM (GPcGP) That sounds like a worst-case scenario for director to material. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 19, 2025 09:05 PM (xcxpd) 89
I thought Taika was in director’s jail because of Thor 4, at least as far as comic book movies.
Posted by: Open Channel D at July 19, 2025 09:06 PM (kZEmF) 90
TJM ...
Your reference to our not most likely not heeding your entreaties to watch these films was ... heart rending. I'm not kidding. It made me take stock of the fact that there's a lot of sweat, toil and love that goes into these "Movie Night Reviews", and we blithely go about our business, not really appreciating your efforts. Duly chastened, I will go find away to watch Tokyo Story ... ***I'm sappy, and I'm not even drinking tonight*** Posted by: browndog with cocked head at July 19, 2025 09:06 PM (TTAGa) 91
Oh and well done the essay too, TJM.
It's good. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 19, 2025 09:08 PM (xcxpd) 92
67 They've gotten to the smurfs. Too bad.
They've actually gotten to a lot of old Saturday morning properties. Not Gi Joe or Transformers. Thundercats. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 19, 2025 08:54 PM (Yamow) They’ve long gotten to the Smurfs, especially when they rendered them in 3D. Posted by: Cow Demon at July 19, 2025 09:08 PM (vm8sq) 93
91 Concur.
Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at July 19, 2025 09:08 PM (klf3J) 94
Oh, by the way that's a royal "we".
I do realize that there are more than a few amongst us who pay attention to TJM's posts. No slight to the Horde intended. ***bows deeply*** Posted by: browndog with cocked head at July 19, 2025 09:08 PM (TTAGa) 95
I thoroughly enjoyed Superman. It is not “woke” at all and is really a very conservative movie.
- Superman is a running dog lackey of the bourgeoisie! China Criticizes New Superman Movie: Excessive “Western Individualism,” Lacking “Collective Sacrifice” Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Lying Dogface Pony Soldier at July 19, 2025 09:09 PM (L/fGl) 96
88 Speaking of mucking up an IP.
Taiki Wahiti has been rumored to be helming the next Judge Dredd. I think a Mr. Stallone and a Mr. Urban need to pay him a visit. For consulting purposes. Posted by: Anna Puma at July 19, 2025 09:03 PM (GPcGP) That sounds like a worst-case scenario for director to material. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 19, 2025 09:05 PM (xcxpd) Cue Anthrax, “I Am The Law” Posted by: Cow Demon at July 19, 2025 09:09 PM (vm8sq) 97
I think a Mr. Stallone and a Mr. Urban need to pay him a visit. For consulting purposes.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 19, 2025 09:03 PM (GPcGP) Yeah, I saw that. After Urbans version (best ever done and almost best could be done) it's just... horrifying. Seriously that guy needs to be persuaded to drop this project. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 19, 2025 09:09 PM (zZu0s) 98
We'll get Judge Dredd the Musical
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 19, 2025 09:11 PM (GPcGP) 99
When Papa Smurf is taken by evil wizards Razamel and Gargamel, Smurfette leads the Smurfs on a mission to the real world to save him.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 19, 2025 08:22 PM (63Dwl) Well, Smurfette did start out as a creation of Gargamel, so…. Posted by: Cow Demon at July 19, 2025 09:05 PM (vm8sq) ———— I’m not saying the Smurfs is a commentary on Adam and Eve, but I’m not, not saying that either. Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 19, 2025 09:11 PM (Vh9CX) 100
Taiki Wahiti has been rumored to be helming the next Judge Dredd.
I think a Mr. Stallone and a Mr. Urban need to pay him a visit. For consulting purposes. Posted by: Anna Puma at July 19, 2025 09:03 PM (GPcGP) Please, tell me they have cast Ncuti Gatwa, who played the queer Doctor Who, as Judge Dredd. Lie to me if you must. Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at July 19, 2025 09:13 PM (eIjvK) 101
I was just watching a YouTube video by a Brit indie filmmaker, Marcus Flemming, (whose series about Good Movie Fights vs. BAD movie Fights is worth watching) who is naming the best film of each decade from the 1910's through today. I only mention this here because he named Ozu's Tokyo Story as the best film of the 1950's (which he called the best decade of film.)
Posted by: tankdemon at July 19, 2025 09:14 PM (BxSXV) 102
I'm watching "The Black Cat" on Svengoolie. Hjalmar's (Karlof) house is one of the best parts of this movie. I'm wondering if those are sets or was it filmed somewhere.
Posted by: That BS Guy at July 19, 2025 09:15 PM (vFG9F) Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at July 19, 2025 09:15 PM (klf3J) 104
Ooops-- Flemming called Tokyo Storybthebsecond best film of the 1950's, a close second to Seven Samarai.
Sorry for the confusion. Posted by: tankdemon at July 19, 2025 09:16 PM (BxSXV) 105
That's a seriously striking and disturbing movie, The Black Cat.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 19, 2025 09:17 PM (GPcGP) 106
104 Critics love Ozu. More than one sez Tokyo Story is best movie of all time.
Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at July 19, 2025 09:17 PM (klf3J) 107
The Train? or The Last Metro?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2025 09:18 PM (JvZF+) Posted by: cat what got knifed at July 19, 2025 09:20 PM (vFG9F) Posted by: Just Sayin... at July 19, 2025 09:20 PM (kHSVE) Posted by: Anna Puma at July 19, 2025 09:20 PM (GPcGP) 111
Nyah?
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 19, 2025 09:22 PM (GPcGP) 112
I saw a YT that implied that Air Strike was the worst WWII movie ever made. And it's not an old movie. Released in 2018 and starring Bruce Willis and Adrien Brody, it is available on Prime. It is not only a terrible movie, it had a big 0 on Rotten Tomatoes, it is the Rosie O'Donnell naked of movies. I've watched maybe 20 minutes of it before I had to bail out.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Lying Dogface Pony Soldier at July 19, 2025 09:22 PM (L/fGl) 113
I am trying to think of another well done property that would probably not be a breakout hit.
40K maybe? Some of the more brutal Japanese anime probably. Lol. I picked up Persona 5 Royale. I have no idea when i will actually have time to play it. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 19, 2025 09:23 PM (zZu0s) 114
Really great treatment of the topic TJM, thanks.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2025 09:26 PM (JvZF+) 115
Please, tell me they have cast Ncuti Gatwa, who played the queer Doctor Who, as Judge Dredd. Lie to me if you must.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at July 19, 2025 09:13 PM (eIjvK) En-cutie Posted by: Cow Demon at July 19, 2025 09:26 PM (vm8sq) 116
Ok, that was disjointed even for me.
Urban's Dredd is well done. I suspect that is one of the reasons it was not a huge hit. I was trying to think of other properties that if true to their source material probably would not be enjoyed in a mainstream way. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 19, 2025 09:27 PM (zZu0s) 117
98 We'll get Judge Dredd the Musical
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 19, 2025 09:11 PM (GPcGP) Type in that prompt on youtube; you'll actually get a great song, sung in an imitation Karl Urban voice. "So let them make Dredd Two! I'm dreading Star Trek Three! So why not make Dredd Two instead? I'll star in it for free..." Posted by: Castle Guy at July 19, 2025 09:27 PM (Lhaco) Posted by: Anna Puma at July 19, 2025 09:28 PM (GPcGP) 119
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TJM & MAE sittin in a tree... Posted by: Just Sayin... at July 19, 2025 09:20 PM (kHSVE) You see, the love of a movie fan is not like the love of a square.... Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 19, 2025 09:28 PM (xcxpd) 120
Fucking beatniks.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 19, 2025 09:29 PM (zZu0s) 121
"think of other properties that if true to their source material"
I'm trying to think of any movie adaptation that's faithfully true to source material. Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at July 19, 2025 09:30 PM (klf3J) 122
I'm trying to think of any movie adaptation that's faithfully true to source material.
Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at July 19, 2025 09:30 PM (klf3J) True to the spirit? I'd say LotR. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 19, 2025 09:31 PM (zZu0s) 123
Hasn't Queen Latifah's Equalizer been cancelled now? Maybe she's free to do the new Judge Dredd? Worth some thought, I'm sure, and some producer's probably thinkin' it.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 19, 2025 09:31 PM (q3u5l) 124
Speaking of amateur detectives . . .
Elizabeth Warren @SenWarren I’ve been investigating Paramount’s deal with Trump. Here’s what we know: - Trump sued CBS - CBS called the lawsuit “meritless” - Paramount (owner of CBS) still settled, handing $16 MILLION+ to Trump’s library - Paramount has a billion-dollar deal that needs Trump’s approval Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Lying Dogface Pony Soldier at July 19, 2025 09:32 PM (L/fGl) 125
I had heard of Ozu but never watched anything by him, so I greatly appreciate yours and Mark’s recommendation. Will try to watch some.
I’ve been thinking about pacing because I’ve noticed that when I watch movies from the 70’s and 80’s that I liked a lot, even the action movies feel very slow moving compared to anything more recent. But that doesn’t make the recent movies better; in fact they almost all feel hyperactive to me, which is jarring. Posted by: Tom Servo at July 19, 2025 09:34 PM (3dY0y) 126
Elizabeth Warren @SenWarren I’ve been investigating Paramount’s deal with Trump. Here’s what we know: - Trump sued CBS - CBS called the lawsuit “meritless” - Paramount (owner of CBS) still settled, handing $16 MILLION+ to Trump’s library - Paramount has a billion-dollar deal that needs Trump’s approval Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Lying Dogface Pony Soldier at July 19, 2025 09:32 PM (L/fGl) She forgot Stephen Colbert’s show was cancelled, and he hated Trump. Posted by: Cow Demon at July 19, 2025 09:35 PM (vm8sq) 127
Faithful adaptations?
It seems to me that some of the French tv movies from Simenon's novels come close (especially The Innocents). Chabrol's film of Simenon's novel Betty seems close to the mark too. American films? The one that immediately comes to mind is Revolutionary Road; been a while since I read Yates' novel, but that flick seemed to follow the source very closely. Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 19, 2025 09:37 PM (q3u5l) 128
"Project Moon Base" (1953) Better than I expected. I imagine the cast grumbled about having to wear the gay AF spaceshorts and spaceskullcaps, but Donna Martell's spacerack is aerodynamically A-OK. Heinlein writing credit.
youtube.com/watch?v=fDWeD8uFq8Y Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at July 19, 2025 08:31 PM (klf3J) The prequel to Space: MCMXCIX? Posted by: Cow Demon at July 19, 2025 09:38 PM (vm8sq) 129
The 2012 version of Dredd, with Urban and Thirlby, is a masterpiece.
Posted by: davidt at July 19, 2025 09:38 PM (i0F8b) 130
My eyes read that name as Chesty Boneswell, which should be a Bond girl name.
Posted by: Open Channel D A few days ago, someone mentioned they were considering Sydney Sweeney for the next Bond Girl. That name would work. Is it bones-well or bone-swell? Posted by: mikeski at July 19, 2025 09:39 PM (DgGvY) 131
129 The 2012 version of Dredd, with Urban and Thirlby, is a masterpiece.
Posted by: davidt at July 19, 2025 09:38 PM (i0F8b) It really is Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 19, 2025 09:39 PM (xcxpd) 132
Bought a couple of Ozus films via B&N's Criterion sale. Haven't watched them yet, but they're right here on the shelf.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 19, 2025 09:39 PM (CHHv1) 133
Chesty Bodeswell
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 19, 2025 09:40 PM (GPcGP) 134
Sounds like Elizabeth Warren watched All the President's Men recently and fooled herself into thinking she's sharp enough to draw correct conclusions from her following of the money.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 19, 2025 09:40 PM (q3u5l) 135
A few days ago, someone mentioned they were considering Sydney Sweeney for the next Bond Girl. That name would work.
Is it bones-well or bone-swell? Posted by: mikeski at July 19, 2025 09:39 PM (DgGvY) That would be awesome. Posted by: Cow Demon at July 19, 2025 09:40 PM (vm8sq) 136
It really is
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 19, 2025 09:39 PM (xcxpd) I might rewatch it tonight. Anderson is hot. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 19, 2025 09:41 PM (zZu0s) 137
I am trying to think of another well done property that would probably not be a breakout hit.
40K maybe? Some of the more brutal Japanese anime probably. Lol. I picked up Persona 5 Royale. I have no idea when i will actually have time to play it. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 19, 2025 09:23 PM (zZu0s) For 40k short movies, check out Syama Pederson's 'Astartes' on Youtube. Then the short series 'Secret Level' has a 40 short film called 'Know No Fear' this is top notch. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 19, 2025 09:42 PM (xcxpd) 138
I have always liked Frankenheimers films a lot, and I’m looking forward to you covering him. “The Train” is a true masterpiece, covering the same basic story as “Monument Men” but from a French POV. And although the story was embellished from what actually took place, it still showed the great cost born by the civilian population in that war. You mentioned Burt Lancaster, the movie really showcases his athleticism, but Paul Scofield also stands out as the obsessed German officer who will do anything to keep the art that he now considers to be his.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 19, 2025 09:43 PM (3dY0y) 139
Pacing is important to me. I've never played video games. I do not like the fast pace. Some movies are just non-stop shit-is-happening all the time. It can be exhausting.
one film I really like is Lost in Translation. I admit that I have to be in the right mood to re-watch it, but it's really pleasant. Scarlett Johannsen and Bill Murray complement each other very well, and they take us on a stroll through some wonderful scenes in Tokyo and rural Japan. Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at July 19, 2025 09:43 PM (0aYVJ) 140
Thirlby was fantastic as Anderson.
Posted by: davidt at July 19, 2025 09:43 PM (i0F8b) 141
Good evening everyone
Just had over a 2 hour nap Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2025 09:44 PM (5clMv) 142
It really is
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 19, 2025 09:39 PM (xcxpd) But Urban never said “I AM THE LAW!” the way that Stallone did! Posted by: Tom Servo at July 19, 2025 09:45 PM (3dY0y) 143
Warren forgets Fox gave away many more millions in a settlement in a case that had no merit.
It was a quid to quo for the Democrats. Posted by: polynikes at July 19, 2025 09:48 PM (VofaG) 144
But Urban never said “I AM THE LAW!” the way that Stallone did!
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 19, 2025 09:45 PM (3dY0y) If you want cheese, and an ABC Warrior, Stallone's movie is the choice. But I adore Dredd, even saw it in 3D and I'm not a big 3D fan. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 19, 2025 09:49 PM (xcxpd) 145
Seconds is my favorite Frankenheimer movie and the older I get, the more devastating that ending gets.
Posted by: Open Channel D at July 19, 2025 09:50 PM (kZEmF) 146
"We haven't even started."
Posted by: Anderson at July 19, 2025 09:50 PM (i0F8b) 147
122 I'm trying to think of any movie adaptation that's faithfully true to source material.
Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at July 19, 2025 09:30 PM (klf3J) True to the spirit? I'd say LotR. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 19, 2025 09:31 PM (zZu0s) Yes. And I think that the Coen bros “True Grit” is pretty faithful to the original, much more than John Wayne’s version is. Posted by: Tom Servo at July 19, 2025 09:50 PM (3dY0y) 148
>I'm trying to think of any movie adaptation that's faithfully true to source material.
Kubrick's Clockwork Orange. Posted by: davidt at July 19, 2025 09:52 PM (i0F8b) 149
Yes. And I think that the Coen bros “True Grit” is pretty faithful to the original, much more than John Wayne’s version is. Posted by: Tom Servo ------ Agreed. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 19, 2025 09:53 PM (XeU6L) 150
Well, outta here for the evening.
Thanks for the thread, TJM -- the posts are appreciated. Have a good one, gang. See some of you in the book thread tomorrow. Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 19, 2025 09:55 PM (q3u5l) 151
Kubrick's Clockwork Orange is faithful to the book version that was originally released. But in the decades since they have released the novel with the true final chapter.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 19, 2025 09:56 PM (GPcGP) 152
I spoke of James Clavell. He consulted on both King Rat and Shogun so the movies were probably pretty faithful to the books.
Posted by: polynikes at July 19, 2025 09:56 PM (VofaG) 153
I have always considered “The Manchurian Candidate” Frankenheimers best work. I admit it’s because I think “Manchurian Candidate” is the greatest political thriller of all time. It’s also the movie that convinced me that Frank Sinatra really COULD act, although he rarely showed it because he was so damn lazy most of the time. (I think it took a great director to get it out of him.)
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 19, 2025 09:58 PM (3dY0y) 154
Thanks so much!
Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at July 19, 2025 09:59 PM (klf3J) 155
ONT is nood.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 19, 2025 10:01 PM (zZu0s) Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 19, 2025 10:02 PM (xcxpd) 157
The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou came out, stylistically extremely similar to The Royal Tenenbaums, and I found it curious. I enjoyed both films, even if they were stylistically very similar with thematic concerns around daddy-issues. Wasn't the point that the films were good?
--------- Couldn't disagree more. "Twee and self-consciously quirky," =/= good. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 19, 2025 10:03 PM (BI5O2) 158
Got here late, still reading and poaching your essay.
I'll have to save a barb for Monday. Have a good weekend. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2025 10:03 PM (q3UPY) 159
Red Beard.
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