Saturday Evening Movie Thread

Saturday Evening Movie Thread - 6/28/2025

Sequels: A Choice

When something original and new gets sudden success in Hollywood, there's the immediate need to capitalize on it. Sequels have always been a thing in Hollywood, extending back to the silent era with serials (William Wyler cut his teeth making serial westerns for Universal), but it was the 80s where Hollywood decided to make them a cornerstone of their financial well-being rather than an ashamed underbelly of cashflow that it had always been.

For decades, the question of how to approach sequels was easy: more of the same. Another adventure for the Lone Ranger or Flash Gordon. Even outside of franchises, you could just have Randolph Scott amble into another isolated western town and deal with some injustice and then amble out again, and the B-movie fans will show up in enough numbers to financially justify the next. So, that means formula. You just do the same thing again.

And when sequels turned into huge business, that approach becomes a bigger question. If you're Fast and Furious, you can keep tweaking the formula slightly with every entry until you reach ridiculous, borderline parody of the original film, and the audience will go along with it. If you're Star Wars, you go in a different direction and deepen emotion and increase danger...for one film and then revert to the formula of the first.

In my cinematic journeys, I've grown less patient with formula. I don't reject it or hate a film because it follows formula, but I've always looked forward to sequels that broke with formula more than those that stuck to it. So, now we must talk about Bill S. Preston, Esquire and Ted Theodore Logan.

Bill & Ted's Curious Cinematic Cruise

Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure is a weird creation from the get-go. Born from a stage act from the writers, Ed Solomon and Chris Matheson, where they would play the characters, two doofuses with Southern California surfer accents, reacting to news events, it's about the titular heroes traveling through time to...pass a history report in order to...save the future because...their music brings about world peace. It's inherently silly, makes no sense when you think about the film's embrace of time travel mechanics (if the future is in danger of not existing because the band will be split up with Ted going to military school because he fails his history report...how does the future exist where they never split up?), and very loosely structured.

But it was a financial success, and the studio, Orion Pictures, quickly greenlit a sequel.

What do you do with that? Well, I was curious, so when I picked up the 4K boxset of the trilogy, the first thing I did was watch an interview on the disc for Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey with Ed Solomon. His first inclination towards writing a sequel was formula. Bill and Ted need to write another report, this time for their English class. But they quickly abandoned it.

Instead, they went...weird. Bill and Ted die. They die because some ugly dude from the future hates the utopia he lives in, so he sends back robot versions of Bill and Ted to kill them, replace them, and then use the originals' platform to establish a new future in the ugly dude's vision. Hardly any time travel. No reports to do. In fact, the film consciously uses formula against our heroes. When the evil robot usses meet the real Bill and Ted, they rely on their memories of going back in time to fix their problems to get them to come along and kill them in the desert. From that point on, though, it sidesteps the formula from the first one completely and sets its own path.

And I prefer it, and not by a small amount. The first is loose and just kind of flops from one section to the next with no real narrative drive. It's funny while it does it, its saving grace, but I just prefer how the second film has this centralizing focus and a more linear approach to the heroes dealing with their problems. The afterlife on Earth, including possession to try and get people to protect their babes, to Hell, where they have to face their eternal damnation in entertainingly personalized form (including Alex Winter, who plays Bill, playing his own grandmother), to facing off with Death in a series of games to get back to Earth, to Heaven to collect Station, the universe's smartest scientists, back to Earth. In the first, they get their phone booth, travel kind of randomly, get some footage of Napoleon at a waterpark and the rest of the historical figures at the mall, and then do the report.

And that difference is actually one of the reasons why I feel like the second is actually the better film. It takes an established formula, consciously undermines it, and understands what needs to be preserved isn't the formula but the characters. What makes a Bill & Ted movie a Bill & Ted movie isn't them assembling historical (or literary, in the case of the second film's first draft) figures to present in front of an auditorium of high school students. It's Bill & Ted facing extreme and fantastical circumstances with their signature dopey flare. Moving away from the formula of the first and putting them into something completely new is a good thing.

Facing the Music

Rumors and efforts to get a sequel to Bogus Journey lingered for years until finally, in the late 2010s, the original writers Ed Solomon and Chris Matheson cracked a script that made both Keanu Reeves and Alex Winter happy. Bill and Ted never wrote the great song to unite the world, reality begins to crack, they're tasked with writing it in 77 minutes, they travel to their own future (past the point where the world ends...?) to steal the song from themselves while their daughters travel through time to get together a great band to help their dads with their song. Also, they die and meet Death again in order to complete the band.

So, the third entry is something of mishmash of ideas, seemingly a collection of different ideas the writers had had over the years, cobbled together into something like a whole. In terms of approaching sequels, it has its cake and eats it too by being both different and the same at the same time. In terms of the sameness is the daughters collecting historical personages and the trip to Hell (though Hell is presented in far less interesting terms). Regarding the new and different it's seeing Bill and Ted watch their futures evolve over the years in different ways.

I don't think I'm alone in seeing the third film as a miss (it has the lowest IMDB rating by not a small amount), and I think a large part of that has to do with the confused conglomeration of ideas and storylines, coupled with an end of the world storyline and visuals that fit more in with an MCU movie than a Bill and Ted adventure. It is a combination of regurgitating the old and finding some corner of new stuff, but combining them...inelegantly. Do I expect elegance from a Bill and Ted film? Neither of the first two are, but they have a clearer vision about what they are, more modest ambitions, and an interest in generally being different.

It feels like a compromise film between a bunch of different needs from stars, writers, and studio, and those compromises prevented the film from having something like a life of its own.

It also doesn't help that Keanu and Winter cannot recreate the energy from their youth, denying the third entry one of the key appealing aspects of the first two: Bill and Ted, to some degree.

Different

Bill and Ted aren't the only two cinematic figures who have seen strange changes in directions in subsequent movies. Think of Rambo, his first film, First Blood, being a fairly spare thriller in the Pacific Northwest where only one person dies to Rambo: First Blood Part II set in Vietnam where he blows up a bunch of stuff real good. Or Gremlins where the first film is essentially a cross between Frank Capra and Steven Spielberg with a dash of Joe Dante while the second is Joe Dante's love of Tex Avery Looney Tunes made real life. Or the Evil Dead franchise that started in dark horror and quickly morphed into horror-comedy with Evil Dead II (which itself is essentially a remake of the first one) and outright comedy with Army of Darkness.

This can work well (think Army of Darkness) or really badly (think Highlander II: The Quickening). I think it generally doesn't work well because of the realities of movie making (starting with writers not understanding the assignment, studio executives not understanding the value of the risk of the change, and actors valuing their images), the path of least resistance simply being "the same but different," which usually translates as "bigger, louder, and longer."

Which makes me look forward to the sequels that do veer off in weird, unexpected directions. I mean, there are a good number of examples of sequels that do this and just fall flat or just don't measure up (I like Halloween III: Season of the Witch, but it's not anywhere close to the original), but it's just...more interesting.

But people love formula. They loved The Fast and the Furious and want more of it, and any changes to tone and scale have to happen slowly over time. They want just another adventure with Kirk and Spock. They just want James Bond to face down another big threat while bedding women and using gadgets. And I'm not opposed to that. I've had a lot of fun with continuing adventures type films.

But sometimes, you need Bill and Ted to die and fight evil robot usses from the future instead of collecting more historical figures for another report.

In other news, M3GAN 2.0 came out yesterday and Jurassic World: Rebirth comes out next week.

Movies of Today

Opening in Theaters:

F1: The Movie

M3GAN 2.0

Movies I Saw This Fortnight:

What Did the Lady Forget? (Rating 3/4) Full Review "I think that points to how Ozu can create these multi-layered stories so easily. It's not his best example, but it's a solid one." [The Criterion Channel]

There was a Father (Rating 3.5/4) Full Review "Still, this is very good work from Ozu, proving very quickly that he's a master of the sound era without any flash or showmanship. He's assured and confident in his stylistic approaches, and he makes it work with the stories he's choosing to tell." [The Criterion Channel]

A Hen in the Wind (Rating 4/4) Full Review "Really, this is a marvelous gem of a film. It's one I'd never heard of, and one I think deserves more attention. It's great." [The Criterion Channel]

Tokyo Story (Rating 4/4) Full Review "So, yes, Tokyo Story is a masterpiece. It very likely could be Ozu's greatest achievement. It's touching in a deep, subtle way. It's miraculously made. Ozu's intelligent approach to his stories makes them far more compelling than I imagine almost anyone else could make them. He was a gem of cinema, and this may be his crowning achievement." [The Criterion Channel]

The Flavor of Green Tea over Rice (Rating 3.5/4) Full Review "Still, this is Ozu demonstrating his mastery of his art once again. Probably not the very top of his output, but this is still a touching look at a relationship told with quiet reserve: exactly what I want from an Ozu film." [The Criterion Channel]

Early Spring (Rating 4/4) Full Review "The quiet, subtle way this film touched me really surprised me. It's great." [The Criterion Channel]

Equinox Flower (Rating 3.5/4) Full Review "Still, it's very good. Almost like Ozu on autopilot. But his autopilot is better than most people's best efforts." [The Criterion Channel]

Good Morning (Rating 3.5/4) Full Review "It's full of fart jokes, little business, and hardly any story at all, and yet, in the end, there's this swell of emotion as life just...plays out." [The Criterion Channel]

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My next post will be on 7/19, and it will be about the directing career of Yasujiro Ozu.

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Comments

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1 first.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 28, 2025 07:47 PM (e5NfL)

2 No love for Apocalypse Now?

Posted by: Accomack at June 28, 2025 07:47 PM (RBD82)

3 Sylvester gets a lot of bad press. His "King of Tulsa" stream show is pretty lit.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 28, 2025 07:52 PM (Q4IgG)

4 Pop in to say I saw F1 last night. Fun movie. Die hard F1 fans like I am will find lots to criticize in terms of realism and such (in real life Hayes would have been kicked out of F1 after the first race...). It's very Hollywood. Too many crashes etc.

It's also about 39 min too long.

But it's fun. I had that thing where I'm watching and the F1 voice in my head was saying "no way could he accelerate that in the wet on slicks.." and I turn around and say "shut up, I'm watching this movie."

Didn't exactly capture the technical spirit of modern F1. Loved seeing the driver cameos, esp those who left F1 last year.

A fun flick. I liked it.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 28, 2025 07:54 PM (vt7xw)

5 Somewhat movie related, but probably more for tomorrow's book thread, I picked up the Werner Herzog memoir "Every Man for Himself and God Against All: A Memoir". Just started reading it, so far it's . . . strange. Not unexpected for something from Herzog.

Posted by: a.moron at June 28, 2025 07:55 PM (Yt3ED)

6 Stallone does get a lot of bad press, but if you want to spend an evening watching an action flick, it's hard to do better than Nighthawks. Of course, Rutger Hauer as the bad guy may have a lot to do with that.

Been some time since I've seen it, but there's a nice bit in Rocky II (script also credited to Stallone if memory serves) where Burgess Meredith questions why after the match against Apollo Creed Rocky would be back in the gym picking up towels; Rocky tells him "I gotta be around it." YMMV, but that's one of my favorite moments in what I've seen of the series.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 28, 2025 08:00 PM (q3u5l)

7 What are usses?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 28, 2025 08:01 PM (63Dwl)

8 Yeah - Nooded.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 28, 2025 08:01 PM (F7P5/)

9 What are usses?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 28, 2025 08:01 PM (63Dwl)
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Evil robot versions of Ted "Theodore" Logan and Bill S. Preston.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 28, 2025 08:02 PM (IBQGV)

10 Joss ackland the villain had become stock after lethal weapon 2, the game with death played by bill sadler was interesting

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 28, 2025 08:02 PM (bXbFr)

11 Not sure ever seen B&TEA full through

Posted by: Skip at June 28, 2025 08:02 PM (+qU29)

12 And good evening everyone

Posted by: Skip at June 28, 2025 08:03 PM (+qU29)

13 Why does every movie trailer or clip in my suggested have Timmy Chalomet?

Does this kid have a purpose?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 28, 2025 08:03 PM (bss/y)

14 Why does every movie trailer or clip in my suggested have Timmy Chalomet?

Does this kid have a purpose?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 28, 2025 08:03 PM (bss/y)

Dollar Store Pedro Pascal.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 28, 2025 08:04 PM (cIOlQ)

15 Saw the Phoenician Scheme and it killed any desire to see another Wes Anderson film. Went to a screening of Lurker, which is All About Eve - updated, and a lot darker. Skews young- social media stuff and fame and the music scene. Compelling.

Posted by: Vivi at June 28, 2025 08:04 PM (cpunl)

16 Dollar Store Pedro Pascal.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 28, 2025 08:04 PM (cIOlQ)

12 year old, less gay Pedro Pascal.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 28, 2025 08:04 PM (bss/y)

17 They are trying to make him happen

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 28, 2025 08:06 PM (bXbFr)

18 9 What are usses?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 28, 2025 08:01 PM (63Dwl)
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Evil robot versions of Ted "Theodore" Logan and Bill S. Preston.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 28, 2025 08:02 PM (IBQGV)

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My son, Ted Theodore Logan, and his friend, Bill S. Preston, have been killed by evil robots from the future.

Right on, dude!

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 28, 2025 08:06 PM (GBKbO)

19 Why does every movie trailer or clip in my suggested have Timmy Chalomet?

Does this kid have a purpose?
Posted by: Aetius451AD

I read that he's being considered for James Bond. LOL

Posted by: Tuna at June 28, 2025 08:07 PM (lJ0H4)

20 Now that one which happened thirty year

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 28, 2025 08:07 PM (bXbFr)

21 I saw Mission: Impossible - The Final Reckoning in a 1/3 full theater last Sunday. Capsule review: not as much fun as the previous one because it takes itself too seriously. A lot of gurl boss characters, the biggest being the one played by Ving Rhames.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 28, 2025 08:07 PM (/y8xj)

22 Breakin' 2: Electric Boogaloo was superior to Breakin' by maintaining the cast including Boogaloo Shrimp, Shabba Doo, and Lucinda Dickey, and improving the dancing. The clear advancement and evolution in the Hip hop dance results in woooof yup, I'm pretty much just screwin' with ya.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at June 28, 2025 08:08 PM (pIfcn)

23 Just like the matrix follow on what was it called

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 28, 2025 08:08 PM (bXbFr)

24 I'm so sick of that Pascal guy.doesnt he have a gambling problem?

Posted by: Vivi at June 28, 2025 08:08 PM (cpunl)

25 I've only seen the first Bill and Ted fully and loved it as a teenager. I've seen most of the second one but only in parts. The second one got mixed reviews IIRC, some people loved it, some hated it, so I never bothered seeing it when it was in theaters. I do appreciate your take on it, though, and may give it another try one day.

Nowadays I only bother going to the movie theater when I'm visiting home and my sister insists on watching something. The good thing is that I usually visit home in the summer so it was usually some summer blockbuster that was worth seeing. That's become less the case in the last 10 years.

Posted by: Farquad at June 28, 2025 08:10 PM (YkGND)

26 I'm so sick of that Pascal guy.doesnt he have a gambling problem?
Posted by: Vivi at June 28, 2025 08:08 PM (cpunl)

I think he has a "can't shut up and go the hell away" problem.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 28, 2025 08:10 PM (cIOlQ)

27 I read that he's being considered for James Bond. LOL
Posted by: Tuna at June 28, 2025 08:07 PM (lJ0H4)

I watched Man from UNCLE the other week. I like the visual style. But the movie felt empty. Henry Cavill could do Bond well, I think.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 28, 2025 08:10 PM (bss/y)

28 Blackmailing the studio exec

He was a sleazy foil in equalizer 2 a ridiculous one in the wonder woman sequel

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 28, 2025 08:10 PM (bXbFr)

29 He was a sleazy foil in equalizer 2 a ridiculous one in the wonder woman sequel
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 28, 2025 08:10 PM (bXbFr)

To be fair, I think everything was shit in WW 1984.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 28, 2025 08:11 PM (bss/y)

30 Yes that one was very good at show casing his bond bonafides released the same year as batman v superman

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 28, 2025 08:12 PM (bXbFr)

31 I think he has a "can't shut up and go the hell away" problem.

Yeah. I mean, like, what's up with that?

Posted by: R. Zegler at June 28, 2025 08:13 PM (/y8xj)

32 Supposedly, they have a new guy at the helm for Bond.

The Dune guy, I think it was?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 28, 2025 08:13 PM (bss/y)

33 Yet it wss written with an etch a sketch and probably with lots of hard drugs

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 28, 2025 08:13 PM (bXbFr)

34 Denny Velnoove (choose your own spelling)?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 28, 2025 08:14 PM (bss/y)

35 They just want James Bond to face down another big threat while bedding women and using gadgets.

Kinky.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 28, 2025 08:14 PM (ynpvh)

36 Bill and ted's excellent adventure was great. So many great lines.

"How's it going royal ugly dudes."

"The only thing you learned is Caesar is a salad dressing dude."

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 28, 2025 08:14 PM (snZF9)

37 which usually translates as "bigger, louder, and longer."

The Paolo, he thinks you make this too easy.

Posted by: Paolo at June 28, 2025 08:15 PM (DgGvY)

38 Guy ritchie should be the director, he knows the material

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 28, 2025 08:15 PM (bXbFr)

39 Equalizer 1 and 3. 2 kinda sucked
John Wick, all 4 were good entertainment.
Still want to see the second "Sicario"

Posted by: Ben Had at June 28, 2025 08:15 PM (HFcKg)

40 32 Supposedly, they have a new guy at the helm for Bond.

The Dune guy, I think it was?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 28, 2025 08:13 PM

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Yeah. Villenueve signed.

No final cut. He's going to finish Dune 3 first (it films soon).

Only one film signed for.

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 28, 2025 08:15 PM (GBKbO)

41 35 They just want James Bond to face down another big threat while bedding women and using gadgets.

Kinky.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 28, 2025 08:14 PM (ynpvh)

Yeah, I mean it's a crazy idea, but it might be cool. I'd even be willing to ditch the gadgets.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 28, 2025 08:15 PM (bss/y)

42 Supposedly, they have a new guy at the helm for Bond.

The Dune guy, I think it was?
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Hence the Timothee Chalomet connection.

Posted by: Tuna at June 28, 2025 08:15 PM (lJ0H4)

43 36 Bill and ted's excellent adventure was great. So many great lines.

"How's it going royal ugly dudes."

"The only thing you learned is Caesar is a salad dressing dude."
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 28, 2025 08:14 PM (snZF9)

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Not fair.

Joan of Arc is also Noah's wife.

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 28, 2025 08:16 PM (GBKbO)

44 I kept to the Keanu rule of only watch the first movie. I got burned on the Matrix and sat through the second one in the theater.

So for Wick, it is a perfect movie and done. (Although, even though I love it, it has problems.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 28, 2025 08:16 PM (bss/y)

45 42 Supposedly, they have a new guy at the helm for Bond.

The Dune guy, I think it was?
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Hence the Timothee Chalomet connection.
Posted by: Tuna at June 28, 2025 08:15 PM (lJ0H4)

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Actually, Tom Holland is said to be top three choices for Bond right now.

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 28, 2025 08:16 PM (GBKbO)

46 The third Bill & Ted movie was as good as it was gonna get given the circumstances. Worth a watch if you're already into the characters. Kinda hard to improve on Bogus Journey though.

Posted by: Adrienne Barbeau's Bountiful Breasts at June 28, 2025 08:17 PM (HxQ/q)

47 Hence the Timothee Chalomet connection.
Posted by: Tuna at June 28, 2025 08:15 PM (lJ0H4)

That would be horrifying if he does not reach puberty by that point.

At least have to shave.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 28, 2025 08:17 PM (bss/y)

48 Actually, Tom Holland is said to be top three choices for Bond right now.
Posted by: TJM's phone at June 28, 2025 08:16 PM (GBKbO)

LOL. That is even worse.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 28, 2025 08:17 PM (bss/y)

49 Saw some RiffTrax movies since last I posted. They were both really dumb, but that almost goes without saying. First up was "American Werewolf." The writing was very dumb, but not incompetent. Production was halfway decent, but there was no budget what-so-ever for anything. It was amusing until the very end, when they very quickly and very pointlessly killed off the majority of the cast, leaving an unsatisfying conclusion.

Second movie was "Creature From Black Lake." I gave off a lot of "Boggy Creek II" vibes. Older (70's or 80's) low budget movie about some college students trying to find a bigfoot that is terrorizing some country yokels. The set-up made for some funny commentary. The ending almost killed the vibe, the movie teased a tragic/depressing ending, which makes a comedy presentation a lot less funny, but they backed away at the last moment, and saved the project's re-watchability.

I'd recommend "Black Lake," but I'm not sure if "American Werewolf" is worth it.

Posted by: Castle Guy at June 28, 2025 08:18 PM (Lhaco)

50 The motivation is sort of lost after the firsr wick film

But i like the expansion of the lore, although they had to know he didnt actually kill gianna

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 28, 2025 08:18 PM (bXbFr)

51 Hollywood is spent. They flat out are out of ideas and don't think outside the box anymore.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 28, 2025 08:18 PM (snZF9)

52 If Chalamet is in some "Young James Bond" flick then imma give up on the whole franchise.

And this is from a guy who tolerated Roger Moore doing a corkscrew jump in a car across a river.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 28, 2025 08:19 PM (cIOlQ)

53 48 Actually, Tom Holland is said to be top three choices for Bond right now.
Posted by: TJM's phone at June 28, 2025 08:16 PM (GBKbO)

LOL. That is even worse.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 28, 2025 08:17 PM

===

He's at least British.

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 28, 2025 08:19 PM (GBKbO)

54 Too much like last jedi (if its not broke) why revisit the characters

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 28, 2025 08:19 PM (bXbFr)

55 Surprised there hasn't been a Usual Suspects sequel.

Posted by: Guy who takes everything literally at June 28, 2025 08:20 PM (r2ymA)

56 Hollander or Challomet would look like soy boy Bond. Good grief, neither comes close to being manly.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at June 28, 2025 08:20 PM (2NHgQ)

57 And this is from a guy who tolerated Roger Moore doing a corkscrew jump in a car across a river.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 28, 2025 08:19 PM (cIOlQ)

I'd argue the women in the Moore movies were hotter than the norm. Although Dalton's were good and I loved Goldeneye.

I need to rewatch the Dalton Bond movies.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 28, 2025 08:20 PM (bss/y)

58 I like Tom Holland but he is too short to be Bond.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 28, 2025 08:20 PM (HFcKg)

59 They just want James Bond to face down another big threat while bedding women and using gadgets.

Kinky.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

Those events, serially: Bond film.

Those events, simultaneously: Austin Powers film.

Posted by: mikeski at June 28, 2025 08:22 PM (DgGvY)

60 fwiw, Mike Rowe interviewed David Mamet on his podcast, The Way I Heard It. Mamet has a new book and a new movie out.

It ends with the joke: A Methodist preacher was on a subway car, and a smelly drunk sat down beside him. The preacher finally told the drunk, "Cleanliness is next to Godliness, John Wesley said that."
The drunk looked at him and said, "Fnck you, David Mamet said that"

Mamet's response was, "Truer words have never been spoken"

Posted by: Kindltot at June 28, 2025 08:22 PM (D7oie)

61 Shame Tom Wilkinson is gone. Bond, the final chapter.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 28, 2025 08:23 PM (HFcKg)

62 You need some one with presence charisma and personality craig proved he had little of that

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 28, 2025 08:23 PM (bXbFr)

63 58 I like Tom Holland but he is too short to be Bond.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 28, 2025 08:20 PM (HFcKg)

I am not sure a height requirement is in there (women may argue with me) but he needs to be striking and masculine. A perpetual 5 o'clock shadow. Have to shave while he is shaving kind of thing. Testosterone thing.

Plus, they both sound like kids. Fuck, can we get these kids the same regime as Christopher Lee and Yul Brenner. Make them drink whiskey and smoke a pack a day until their balls drop?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 28, 2025 08:23 PM (bss/y)

64 There should be more Jerry Cornelius movies

Posted by: Kindltot at June 28, 2025 08:23 PM (D7oie)

65 I love sci-fi. I'm waiting for the next Event Horizon, or Stargate. Event Horizon...damn, that was a good one. That was some pretty out of the box thinking. The original Alien was good too. The thing..yeah they just don't do shit like that anymore.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 28, 2025 08:23 PM (snZF9)

66 He would have made a good villain

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 28, 2025 08:24 PM (bXbFr)

67 Is 28 Years Later aby good?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 28, 2025 08:24 PM (P389G)

68 I may be in the minority, but I liked Daniel Craig Bond.

Oddly, Pierce Brosnan didn't bug me too much either.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 28, 2025 08:24 PM (cIOlQ)

69 65 I love sci-fi. I'm waiting for the next Event Horizon, or Stargate. Event Horizon...damn, that was a good one. That was some pretty out of the box thinking. The original Alien was good too. The thing..yeah they just don't do shit like that anymore.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 28, 2025 08:23 PM (snZF9)

*fistbump*

Event Horizon was great. Haunted House/Ship movie.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 28, 2025 08:25 PM (bss/y)

70 There should be more Jerry Cornelius movies
Posted by: Kindltot at June 28, 2025 08:23 PM (D7oie)
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I like Michael Moorcock, but I didn't like those books.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 28, 2025 08:25 PM (IBQGV)

71 Aetius, point well taken

Posted by: Ben Had at June 28, 2025 08:25 PM (HFcKg)

72 67 Is 28 Years Later aby good?
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 28, 2025 08:24 PM (P389G)

I've heard mixed things. Tone is supposed to be good, but uneven as the movie goes on, I think?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 28, 2025 08:25 PM (bss/y)

73 65 I love sci-fi. I'm waiting for the next Event Horizon, or Stargate. Event Horizon...damn, that was a good one. That was some pretty out of the box thinking. The original Alien was good too. The thing..yeah they just don't do shit like that anymore.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 28, 2025 08:23 PM (snZF9)

*fistbump*

Event Horizon was great. Haunted House/Ship movie.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 28, 2025 08:25 PM (bss/y)
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One of my all time favorite movies!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 28, 2025 08:25 PM (IBQGV)

74 I may be in the minority, but I liked Daniel Craig Bond.

Oddly, Pierce Brosnan didn't bug me too much either.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 28, 2025 08:24 PM (cIOlQ)

Brosnan was pretty good. Dude wrecked a town with a tank and said screw is this little pew pew PPK and lit up the room with an AK47.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 28, 2025 08:26 PM (snZF9)

75 Oddbob, sorry to hear that about the new MI. I was considering going to see it, still might. Haven't been in a theater since ...... can't remember. Oh, right. Whenever Godzilla -1.0 or whatever it was called. Actually was amusing, mostly for its historical content, which was pretty good, and utterly lost/uninteresting to most American audiences, but curious for anyone who knows much about the end of the war and popular/political dynamics in Japan at the time.

Before that, can't remember. Midway movie whenever that was (sub-meh). Before that, a couple of documentary things, Into the Cold Blue about the 8th Air Force, and something else can't remember, similar.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 28, 2025 08:27 PM (1m82a)

76 Brosnan was almost to play bond even the last one had some elements that could have been salvaged

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 28, 2025 08:27 PM (bXbFr)

77 There was plenry of shark jumping moore was my intro to the series

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 28, 2025 08:28 PM (bXbFr)

78 All other Bonds though exist in Sean Connery's shadow.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 28, 2025 08:28 PM (cIOlQ)

79 Predator is another that did not need sequels. A Haunted house movie, typical action movie and survival movie all rolled into one.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 28, 2025 08:29 PM (bss/y)

80 It's hard to grow up on the real Bond movies (Connery) and really enjoy many of the later ones. Opening stunts/scenes pretty much were good, eye candy was good, so OK, but nothing memorable. Whereas I can still see Goldfinger and Thunderball scenes in my head, and recall classic lines, easily.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 28, 2025 08:29 PM (1m82a)

81 Hollywood has ruined sequels! I do not want to watch any more Star Trek nor Star Wars movies. Star Trek TOS stands for Star Trek The Only Series. There were only three Star Wars movies, and no prequels, and no sequels! James Bond movies ceased to interest me after that fellow who used to play The Saint took over! Enough!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 28, 2025 08:30 PM (TlKpx)

82 Predator 2 was very cheesy and they go right off the cliff

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 28, 2025 08:30 PM (bXbFr)

83 Scary Thought...............

If Harris was POTUS and Walz was VP then the B-2 Cockpits would be required to have Tampon Dispensers.

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at June 28, 2025 08:30 PM (J7c+Z)

84 Needed to look up pics of Sean Connery to cleanse my mind of the thoughts of the above mentioned actors taking over the role. I also liked Brosnan as Bond. Of course I loved him as Remington Steele.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at June 28, 2025 08:31 PM (2NHgQ)

85 Aetius is correct. Think I saw the follow-on Predator things, but it was unrepeatable. Sort of like Alien, or Terminator, though the follow-ons for those were well done. I guess the Terminator sequels/prequels actually added quite a bit in terms of effects, humor, etc.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 28, 2025 08:32 PM (1m82a)

86 Alrighty that dalton was more flemings bond without going too grim

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 28, 2025 08:32 PM (bXbFr)

87 One of the things that annoys me most about sequels is when they take a completely different movie, slap the name of the first movie on it and reskin the movie.

You can tell it's NOT the same characters or universe sometimes.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 28, 2025 08:32 PM (IBQGV)

88 Idris Elba would be a great James Bond.

Posted by: Vivi at June 28, 2025 08:33 PM (cpunl)

89 It would ve interesting if they had adapted any of john gardners bonds

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 28, 2025 08:33 PM (bXbFr)

90 My favorite part of the B-2 thing so far is the challah bread shaped like one that people are doing in Israel. Hilarious.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 28, 2025 08:33 PM (1m82a)

91 Funny that Stallone's two most famous movie series, Rocky and Rambo had their best sequel as the last one.

I loved both Balboa and Rambo Last Blood.

Posted by: polynikes at June 28, 2025 08:33 PM (VofaG)

92 19 Why does every movie trailer or clip in my suggested have Timmy Chalomet?

Does this kid have a purpose?
Posted by: Aetius451AD

I read that he's being considered for James Bond. LOL

Posted by: Tuna at June 28, 2025 08:07 PM (lJ0H4)

I remember when he was announced as Paul Atreides in the Dune remake. I had no idea who the fuck he was and they were talking like he was a big star or something. Yeah the studios are trying to make him a thing.

Posted by: Farquad at June 28, 2025 08:34 PM (YkGND)

93 Watching TCM Double Indemnity with Barbara Stanwyck and Fred McMurray,

Posted by: Skip at June 28, 2025 08:34 PM (+qU29)

94 88 Idris Elba would be a great James Bond.
Posted by: Vivi at June 28, 2025 08:33 PM (cpunl)

He might actually b. Good voice. Masculine enough, but I think a bit too old. He would have been a good surprise choice instead of the other guy, 20 years ago.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 28, 2025 08:34 PM (bss/y)

95 Idris Elba would be a great James Bond.
Posted by: Vivi at June 28, 2025 08:33 PM (cpunl)

I could see that. He has presence.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 28, 2025 08:34 PM (vt7xw)

96 Hollywood is spent. They flat out are out of ideas and don't think outside the box anymore.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 28, 2025 08:18 PM (snZF9)

We're in a creative dead zone today. A steady then sudden decline over the last fifty years. Post 2000 Pop-culture has been almost entirely garbage.

Posted by: Guy who takes everything literally at June 28, 2025 08:35 PM (r2ymA)

97 I already admitted I liked Predators more than Predator. Very small minority. I may be the only one.

Posted by: polynikes at June 28, 2025 08:36 PM (VofaG)

98 55 Surprised there hasn't been a Usual Suspects sequel.

Posted by: Guy who takes everything literally at June 28, 2025 08:20 PM (r2ymA)

Surprised there hasn't been a Rounders sequel.

Posted by: davidt at June 28, 2025 08:36 PM (i0F8b)

99 I kinda liked the Dalton Bond flicks and wish he'd done more of them. And Robert Davi in License to Kill was one of the better villains in the series, running a VERY close second only to Robert Shaw and Gert Frobe/Harold Sakata. Brosnan almost seemed too young for the part in Goldeneye, but that didn't last. Craig was different enough to make Casino Royale worth a watch, but his followups got tiresome real fast; never bothered to catch his last outing as Bond.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 28, 2025 08:37 PM (q3u5l)

100 A 5th Element sequel could have been interesting.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 28, 2025 08:37 PM (bss/y)

101 The problem with action movie sequels is that they think more explosions and more car chases will make it even better. They completely forget about the story.

Posted by: polynikes at June 28, 2025 08:38 PM (VofaG)

102 Hollywood or their writers spent? Seems the most creative writers are doing the made for TV series.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 28, 2025 08:38 PM (HFcKg)

103 I hear Extraction with Thor is supposed to be really good. It's on Netflix, so I have never seen it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 28, 2025 08:39 PM (bss/y)

104 Event Horizon was great. Haunted House/Ship movie.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 28, 2025 08:25 PM (bss/y)
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One of my all time favorite movies!
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 28, 2025 08:25 PM (IBQGV)

Both good but I like Pandorum much better.

Posted by: polynikes at June 28, 2025 08:40 PM (VofaG)

105 Thx TJM.
Alien is a classic horror film in space. It's sequel Aliens might be a better movie an action sci Fi in space. The rest of the "franchise" not so good.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 28, 2025 08:40 PM (eBgDF)

106 Sequels! Ack! Sometimes yes. Sometimes no.

Some whys? Harold and Kumar, Dumb and Dumber, Indiana Jones, Stars Wars Prequals and Disney ('nuff said there), Jaws, Jurassic Park, and so on and so on.

Some that are great to solid? Godfather I and II (if III is the Coda edit would include it), Starwars IV and V, Rocky (because reasons and just because), Blade Runner, Dark Knight and so on and so on.

Main watch of the week was The Train (1964) Director: John Frankenheimer. Starring: Burt Lancaster. The black and white cinematography is outstanding from a technical perspective (the dynamic range control is perfection) and the framing which comes right out classic artwork. The blocking is terrific and it uses camera and actor movement with great skill to move through a scene and link scenes. Then the effects; I think they are practical and impractical. Real trains are used in the explodo and crash scenes; it is all pretty great. And the script is not bad. Now, can we talk about blowing up the trains?

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convicitions at June 28, 2025 08:41 PM (NXz8h)

107 We're in a creative dead zone today. A steady then sudden decline over the last fifty years. Post 2000 Pop-culture has been almost entirely garbage.

Posted by: Guy who takes everything literally at June 28, 2025 08:35 PM (r2ymA)

Totally. Except for a handful of good stuff made a little later, the 80's seem to be a treasure trove of good sci-fi movies. There was a bunch of corny ones too, but with the sheer volume they were cranking them out you're going to get some duds.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 28, 2025 08:41 PM (snZF9)

108 Underrated space movie is Ad Astra.

Watched it a number of times.

Posted by: polynikes at June 28, 2025 08:42 PM (VofaG)

109 He could pull it off

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 28, 2025 08:42 PM (bXbFr)

110 101 The problem with action movie sequels is that they think more explosions and more car chases will make it even better. They completely forget about the story.

Posted by: polynikes at June 28, 2025 08:38 PM (VofaG)

The Michael Bay effect. I hear he's back and working on another explo...I mean movie.

Posted by: Farquad at June 28, 2025 08:43 PM (YkGND)

111 Kind of related, apparently in the UK at various times there was negative chatter about Ian Fleming because he'd never been a spy himself. Yeah, stupid, but what was funny was that these people had no idea he had an extensive WWII career in intelligence and commando operations. As an idea man and sometimes manager, not a field operative. But he worked at the highest levels of military intelligence, as well as forming and directing an intel-focused commando force.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 28, 2025 08:43 PM (1m82a)

112 Saving Private Ryan sequel in Korea,
Then the third in Vietnam.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 28, 2025 08:44 PM (/lPRQ)

113 Alien is a classic horror film in space. It's sequel Aliens might be a better movie an action sci Fi in space. The rest of the "franchise" not so good.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 28, 2025 08:40 PM (eBgDF)

I stopped caring after Aliens. Ripley was tired. The universe was boring. The later ones had some interest for me (yeah, Prometheus and Covenant, cringe)but not much. It was all played out years ago.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 28, 2025 08:44 PM (kKRwe)

114 Frankenheimer was a great director even with ronin in his late stage

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 28, 2025 08:44 PM (bXbFr)

115 87 One of the things that annoys me most about sequels is when they take a completely different movie, slap the name of the first movie on it and reskin the movie.

Some of the Halloween sequels were like that.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 28, 2025 08:44 PM (TlKpx)

116 Best movie I have seen was " Unthinkable" and I'll bet no one else has seen it.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 28, 2025 08:44 PM (HFcKg)

117 I hear Extraction with Thor is supposed to be really good. It's on Netflix, so I have never seen it.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

I think he has two.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 28, 2025 08:46 PM (/lPRQ)

118 Best movie I have seen was " Unthinkable" and I'll bet no one else has seen it.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 28, 2025 08:44 PM (HFcKg)

Not heard of it but I'm definitely going to look it up.

Posted by: polynikes at June 28, 2025 08:46 PM (VofaG)

119 Totally. Except for a handful of good stuff made a little later, the 80's seem to be a treasure trove of good sci-fi movies. There was a bunch of corny ones too, but with the sheer volume they were cranking them out you're going to get some duds.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division

The corny duds had their purpose.

Posted by: Big McLargeHuge, Slab Bulkhead, etc at June 28, 2025 08:46 PM (DgGvY)

120 Oh ive seen it with carrie moss and sam jackson and michael sheen the last is a terrorist

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 28, 2025 08:47 PM (bXbFr)

121 114 Frankenheimer was a great director even with ronin in his late stage
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 28, 2025 08:44 PM (bXbFr)

Ronin was / is great (DiNero not withstanding)

Posted by: J.T. Marlin at June 28, 2025 08:47 PM (TTAGa)

122 Thx TJM.
Alien is a classic horror film in space. It's sequel Aliens might be a better movie an action sci Fi in space. The rest of the "franchise" not so good.
Posted by: Smell the Glove

The Forth with Hellboy was campy sci-fi.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 28, 2025 08:47 PM (/lPRQ)

123 The Train is excellent. Lancaster did pretty much all his own stunt work if I heard correctly (with a limp written in for some of the last scenes because he'd taken a spill off camera -- golf or something?), the rest of the cast was great (how can you miss with Scofield and Jeanne Moreau, and wasn't Jean Gabin in there too?). Way too long since I've watched that flick. What bugs me is that I first saw it in the theater when it came out in '63 or 4 and didn't realize at the time how freakin' good that picture is.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 28, 2025 08:47 PM (q3u5l)

124 Ronin was / is great (DiNero not withstanding)
Posted by: J.T. Marlin at June 28, 2025 08:47 PM (TTAGa

I don't like car chases at all but the one in Ronin was great.

Posted by: polynikes at June 28, 2025 08:48 PM (VofaG)

125 One thing I like seeing in old movies is the background, how things were.

Posted by: Skip at June 28, 2025 08:48 PM (+qU29)

126 Bourne I was great, Bourne II was good except for the fucking shakey cam.

Then they lost me.

Posted by: davidt at June 28, 2025 08:48 PM (i0F8b)

127 To me, Bill and Ted 1 was superior; they played with all of the time travel tropes in delightful ways . Bogus Journey was spotty; the scenes with Death were hilarious (you sunk my battleship!) but the worlds greatest scientist “station” was just stupid . Never watched the 3rd, wasn’t interested.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 28, 2025 08:48 PM (HEGiN)

128 The ticking clock dialed to eleven

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 28, 2025 08:48 PM (bXbFr)

129 Miguel, did you like it?

Posted by: Ben Had at June 28, 2025 08:48 PM (HFcKg)

130 Bourne I was great, Bourne II was good except for the fucking shakey cam.

Then they lost me.
Posted by: davidt at June 28, 2025 08:48 PM (i0F8b)

They lost me casting Matt Damon.

Posted by: polynikes at June 28, 2025 08:49 PM (VofaG)

131 Best movie I have seen was " Unthinkable" and I'll bet no one else has seen it.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 28, 2025 08:44 PM (HFcKg)

I saw it.

Posted by: Guy who takes everything literally at June 28, 2025 08:49 PM (r2ymA)

132 127 To me, Bill and Ted 1 was superior; they played with all of the time travel tropes in delightful ways . Bogus Journey was spotty; the scenes with Death were hilarious (you sunk my battleship!) but the worlds greatest scientist “station” was just stupid . Never watched the 3rd, wasn’t interested.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 28, 2025 08:48 PM (HEGiN)

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The third act kind of collapses in on itself, for Bogus Journey.

But it works, and the first hour is really, really good.

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 28, 2025 08:49 PM (GBKbO)

133 Underrated space movie is Ad Astra.

Watched it a number of times.

Posted by: polynikes at June 28, 2025 08:42 PM (VofaG)

yeah that was a good one. The firefight on the moon in the moon buggies was intense.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 28, 2025 08:50 PM (snZF9)

134 Ok, as long as we're talking about declining franchises,,.

The Fast and the Furious.

"Family..."

Groan.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 28, 2025 08:50 PM (kKRwe)

135 Yes its really gripping is it exactly entertaining

I was dubbed in apanish the first time around

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 28, 2025 08:51 PM (bXbFr)

136 134 Ok, as long as we're talking about declining franchises,,.

The Fast and the Furious.

"Family..."

Groan.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 28, 2025 08:50 PM (kKRwe)

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"It's not about the rules of the space time continuum. It's about family."
-Dom, having boosted the TARDIS in Fast 12

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 28, 2025 08:51 PM (GBKbO)

137 @122 it has its moments. Any movie with Brad Dourif will have some interesting stuff

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 28, 2025 08:51 PM (eBgDF)

138 yeah that was a good one. The firefight on the moon in the moon buggies was intense.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 28, 2025 08:50 PM (snZF9)

And the space baboon.

Posted by: polynikes at June 28, 2025 08:51 PM (VofaG)

139 The train is incredible - yes Lancaster did his own stunts, he was a phenomenal athlete. Covers the same subject as “monument men” with a showcase on how much the French people suffered to try to protect their heritage. Shows clearly the awful sacrifices that are required in war.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 28, 2025 08:52 PM (HEGiN)

140 Bourne I was great, Bourne II was good except for the fucking shakey cam.

Then they lost me.
Posted by: davidt at June 28, 2025 08:48 PM (i0F8b)

They lost me casting Matt Damon.

Posted by: polynikes at June 28, 2025 08:49 PM (VofaG)

Ditto, haven't watched any of them because of that. I saw bits and pieces, but never actually sat down to watch one.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 28, 2025 08:52 PM (snZF9)

141 The links to movies seen recently, like the Ozu ones, point to Godzilla movies on IMDB instead.

Posted by: Nathan at June 28, 2025 08:52 PM (uqYS/)

142 Didn't know there was a Bill & Ted sequel. Original was a classic of sorts, good empty calories.

TJM - for some reason remembering something from long long ago, I asked if you'd ever seen "I am Cuba". Maybe you did, and answered, can't recall.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 28, 2025 08:52 PM (1m82a)

143 And the space baboon.

Posted by: polynikes at June 28, 2025 08:51 PM (VofaG)

Oh shit I forgot about that.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 28, 2025 08:52 PM (snZF9)

144 All other Bonds though exist in Sean Connery's shadow.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 28, 2025 08:28 PM

Well, except for Woody Allen, who's in David Niven's shadow.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 28, 2025 08:53 PM (0sNs1)

145 davidt agree

Posted by: Skip at June 28, 2025 08:53 PM (+qU29)

146 139 The train is incredible - yes Lancaster did his own stunts, he was a phenomenal athlete. Covers the same subject as “monument men” with a showcase on how much the French people suffered to try to protect their heritage. Shows clearly the awful sacrifices that are required in war.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 28, 2025 08:52 PM

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The real story of The Train is that the titular train got put into a loop around Paris until the allies showed up.

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 28, 2025 08:53 PM (GBKbO)

147 My sister sent me JSON Bourne:

{

"identity": "unknown",
"name": "Jason Bourne",
"status": "activated",
"location": "undisclosed",
"threatLevel": "maximum",
"quote": "Jesus Christ, it's Jason Bourne."

}

IYKYK.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 28, 2025 08:53 PM (kKRwe)

148 WitchDoktor -

I agree: Aliens was a different and, in some ways, better movie than Alien. They should have stopped then, but they never do!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 28, 2025 08:53 PM (TlKpx)

149 141 The links to movies seen recently, like the Ozu ones, point to Godzilla movies on IMDB instead.
Posted by: Nathan at June 28, 2025 08:52 PM (uqYS/)

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Damn. Forgot to update those.

Sorry.

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 28, 2025 08:53 PM (GBKbO)

150 Still waiting for Son of Mitchell.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 28, 2025 08:55 PM (63Dwl)

151 142 Didn't know there was a Bill & Ted sequel. Original was a classic of sorts, good empty calories.

TJM - for some reason remembering something from long long ago, I asked if you'd ever seen "I am Cuba". Maybe you did, and answered, can't recall.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 28, 2025 08:52 PM (1m82a)

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Yup. I seen it.

Mikael Kalatozov was one of the best Soviet filmmakers, and propaganda always fascinated me.

Soy Cuba is good, most notable for technical reasons, but I prefer Kalatozov's The Cranes Are Flying.

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 28, 2025 08:55 PM (GBKbO)

152 Aliens had a much different tempo, less horror than a war film then they lost the plot with the third one

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 28, 2025 08:56 PM (bXbFr)

153 I liked Damion in Bourne

Posted by: Skip at June 28, 2025 08:56 PM (+qU29)

154 I watched Passengers for the second time recently. I liked it better on the second viewing for some reason.

Posted by: polynikes at June 28, 2025 08:56 PM (VofaG)

155 We watched Deep Cover on streaming the other day. Ridiculous fun. I was cackling. Recommended for mindless fun.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 28, 2025 08:56 PM (3kB0K)

156 While we are at it, the venerable Dr. Who franchise has been given MAID.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 28, 2025 08:57 PM (TlKpx)

157 For the record, the Hen in the Wind link sends you to imbd shin godzilla.
Which seemed interesting, but a few weeks to late.

Posted by: From about That Time at June 28, 2025 08:57 PM (n4GiU)

158 Worst sequel ever.

Dumb and Dumberer.

Dumb and Dumber was f'n hilarious.

Posted by: Guy who takes everything literally at June 28, 2025 08:58 PM (r2ymA)

159 I like Gerard Butler much better than Matt Damon.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 28, 2025 08:58 PM (HFcKg)

160 Thanks TJM. Yes, even I could appreciate the technical stuff in I am Cuba (saw it in Russian with Spanish sub-titles, I think, when it first came out in the west).

Posted by: rhomboid at June 28, 2025 08:58 PM (1m82a)

161 107 We're in a creative dead zone today. A steady then sudden decline over the last fifty years. Post 2000 Pop-culture has been almost entirely garbage.

Yeah. As to sci fi, I’d call the 50’s Golden Age Sci Fi (Forbidden Planet!) and the 80’s Silver Age, as much for the sheer volume as anything. Yeah not much to get excited about lately, the main push seems to have been seeing how many ways Kathleen Kennedy can crap in every Stars Wars fans mouth.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 28, 2025 08:58 PM (HEGiN)

162 157 For the record, the Hen in the Wind link sends you to imbd shin godzilla.
Which seemed interesting, but a few weeks to late.
Posted by: From about That Time at June 28, 2025 08:57 PM (n4GiU)

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Yeah, I just spaced and didn't update those imdb links.

That's my bad.

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 28, 2025 08:58 PM (GBKbO)

163 I thought they were supposed to do a Constantine sequel.

Posted by: polynikes at June 28, 2025 08:58 PM (VofaG)

164 We watched Deep Cover on streaming the other day. Ridiculous fun. I was cackling. Recommended for mindless fun.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport

I was wondering if that was worth watching. Thanks for the recommendation.

Posted by: Tuna at June 28, 2025 08:58 PM (lJ0H4)

165 163 I thought they were supposed to do a Constantine sequel.
Posted by: polynikes at June 28, 2025 08:58 PM (VofaG)

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Word came out a couple of weeks ago that Keanu didn't like the script. Last I heard of it.

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 28, 2025 08:59 PM (GBKbO)

166 Bourne unlike the books is really an assasin, not a spy

In the books he is very aware of why he embarked on this path

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 28, 2025 08:59 PM (bXbFr)

167 While we are at it, the venerable Dr. Who franchise has been given MAID.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 28, 2025 08:57 PM (TlKpx)

Original series...Tom Baker was the archetype.

I liked McCoy too when the show started getting darker and hinting more about the Doctor's past, but it never got developed.

Reboot, David Tennant.

Matt Smith and Peter Capaldi had moments but that's all they were. I liked Eccleston but really his version could only last one year as an intro to the new series.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 28, 2025 09:00 PM (3Dcbq)

168 Have a DVD of The 12th Man sitting here, need to watch it. Norwegian WWII flick. Supposed to be good.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 28, 2025 09:00 PM (1m82a)

169 Underrated space movie is Ad Astra.

Watched it a number of times.

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I never loathed a movie more than that one. The message was "Space exploration is toxic masculinity and men should just stay home and make their women happy".

Left the theater angry.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at June 28, 2025 09:00 PM (5YmYl)

170 168 Have a DVD of The 12th Man sitting here, need to watch it. Norwegian WWII flick. Supposed to be good.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 28, 2025 09:00 PM (1m82a)

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The Third Man franchise just keeps on kickin'.

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 28, 2025 09:01 PM (GBKbO)

171 My sister sent me JSON Bourne:

{

"identity": "unknown",
"name": "Jason Bourne",
"status": "activated",
"location": "undisclosed",
"threatLevel": "maximum",
"quote": "Jesus Christ, it's Jason Bourne."

}

IYKYK.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 28, 2025 08:53 PM

It's better in the original Assembly.

Posted by: General Chang at June 28, 2025 09:01 PM (0sNs1)

172 I thought they were supposed to do a Constantine sequel.
Posted by: polynikes at June 28, 2025 08:58 PM (VofaG)

Please no.

The comic is great. I like it quite a bit.

The movie wasn't near the tone of the books.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 28, 2025 09:01 PM (3Dcbq)

173 A "Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey" review that doesn't mention that the contest with Death was a comedic riff of Bergman's "The Seventh Seal"? Inconceivable!

I remember reading a review when it came out that said, "This is a smart movie pretending to be dumb."

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at June 28, 2025 09:03 PM (5YmYl)

174 99 I kinda liked the Dalton Bond flicks and wish he'd done more of them

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Timothy Dalton is my favorite Bond.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 28, 2025 09:03 PM (3kB0K)

175 Reboot, David Tennant.

Matt Smith and Peter Capaldi had moments but that's all they were. I liked Eccleston but really his version could only last one year as an intro to the new series.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 28, 2025 09:00 PM (3Dcbq)

Agreed, Tom Baker will always be the best Doctor for me. The year they did “The Keys to Time” with the 1st Romana will always be the pinnacle of the 50 year run.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 28, 2025 09:04 PM (HEGiN)

176 Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at June 28, 2025 09:00 PM (5YmYl)

I didn't get even an inkling of that. Quite the opposite.

Posted by: polynikes at June 28, 2025 09:04 PM (VofaG)

177 I like Gerard Butler much better than Matt Damon.
Posted by: Ben Had

Have you seen Butler in "Dear Frankie"? Very sweet and touching Scottish movie from the early 2000's. Recommended highly.

Posted by: Tuna at June 28, 2025 09:04 PM (lJ0H4)

178 173 A "Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey" review that doesn't mention that the contest with Death was a comedic riff of Bergman's "The Seventh Seal"? Inconceivable!

I remember reading a review when it came out that said, "This is a smart movie pretending to be dumb."
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at June 28, 2025 09:03 PM

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I'm pretty sure that game is a reference to Butch and Sundance, the Early Years.

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 28, 2025 09:04 PM (GBKbO)

179 I watched Passengers for the second time recently. I liked it better on the second viewing for some reason.
Posted by: polynikes at June 28, 2025 08:56 PM (VofaG)

Some podcast I was listening to was talking about how bad an actress Jennifer Lawrence is. Like really bad. I don't know, are there any really good actresses now?

Posted by: Guy who takes everything literally at June 28, 2025 09:05 PM (r2ymA)

180 Bogus journey is a very under appreciated sequel. I liked face the music good enough it was fun to be with bill and ted again, but it's definitely the weakest of the 3.

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 28, 2025 09:05 PM (MGB5H)

181 Grumpy Old Men movies. These movies features two old guys whose wives kicked them out the house because they were underfoot plus Ann Margaret. I love these films because of the deep affection these three had for each is so apparent; it is infectious.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convicitions at June 28, 2025 09:05 PM (NXz8h)

182 "I watched Man from UNCLE the other week.... Henry Cavill could do Bond well, I think."

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I had the same reaction. He'd be perfect. Also, set the new films back in the Cold War 1960s. Give us back the Bond we loved.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at June 28, 2025 09:05 PM (5YmYl)

183 Timothy Dalton is my favorite Bond.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 28, 2025 09:03 PM (3kB0K)

Timothy Dalton made a few appearances on Dr. Who as an evil Time Lord back on Gallifrey. He was good, of course.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 28, 2025 09:06 PM (HEGiN)

184 180 Bogus journey is a very under appreciated sequel. I liked face the music good enough it was fun to be with bill and ted again, but it's definitely the weakest of the 3.
Posted by: BruceWayne at June 28, 2025 09:05 PM (MGB5H)

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The first 30 minutes or so of Face the Music are kind of hilarious.

Then it just starts to drag and never stops.

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 28, 2025 09:06 PM (GBKbO)

185 Grumpy Old Men movies. These movies features two old guys whose wives kicked them out the house because they were underfoot plus Ann Margaret. I love these films because of the deep affection these three had for each is so apparent; it is infectious.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convicitions at June 28, 2025 09:05 PM (NXz8h)

And Burgess Meredith.

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 28, 2025 09:06 PM (MGB5H)

186 "I watched Man from UNCLE the other week.... Henry Cavill could do Bond well, I think."

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I had the same reaction. He'd be perfect. Also, set the new films back in the Cold War 1960s. Give us back the Bond we loved.
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at June 28, 2025 09:05 PM (5YmYl)

I'm too lazy to look it up. Wasn't he in Argyle? Crap movie but I think he did well with what he had.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 28, 2025 09:07 PM (3Dcbq)

187 When do we get the sequel to Life Force with multiple Mathilda May style characters influencing RINOS, and DemonRat politicians into putting us into Covid style Lock Downs, and Vampire injections to suck the souls of the populace into Hell.

Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at June 28, 2025 09:08 PM (Da7Vv)

188 Just watched Zulu again on UToob this week. Besides the amazing setting, still love that the real Zulu king played his ancestor in the movie (and of course the extras were real Zulus). Buthelezi was one of the less wacko players when apartheid came tumbling down.

Like Lawrence, where the Howeitat extras were the sons of the guys who rode with Lawrence to take Aqaba. Those sorts of realism in casting don't seem to happen any more.

(our tour guide in Wadi Rum was a grandson of one who rode with Lawrence, his father of course was an extra in the film)

Posted by: rhomboid at June 28, 2025 09:08 PM (1m82a)

189 Evil Dead II had the scene where Ash fights his hand . That alone made the movie worth it

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 28, 2025 09:08 PM (eBgDF)

190 Oh, Brosnan and Helen Mirren are killing it in Mobland. Another fun very stabby show.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 28, 2025 09:08 PM (3kB0K)

191 The Train is excellent. Lancaster did pretty much all his own stunt work if I heard correctly (with a limp written in for some of the last scenes because he'd taken a spill off camera -- golf or something?), the rest of the cast was great (how can you miss with Scofield and Jeanne Moreau, and wasn't Jean Gabin in there too?). Way too long since I've watched that flick. What bugs me is that I first saw it in the theater when it came out in '63 or 4 and didn't realize at the time how freakin' good that picture is.
Posted by: Just Some Guy
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Great movie, and great to know that Lancaster did all of his stunts. Additionally, there is the fact that train yard destruction was 'one-time' shot. No way to redo it. The same is true of the derailment scene in 'The Fugitive'. All of that train wreck remains down along the Nantahala river. No CGI.

The Train clip:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1IEtzj23ws

Fugitive clip, and better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1IEtzj23ws

Both pretty cool.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 28, 2025 09:09 PM (XeU6L)

192 Saw Grumpy Old Men with my boss years ago. I loved it. Thought my boss was gonna die laughing. And I adore Ann-Margret.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, punching the iPad screen like a chimp at June 28, 2025 09:09 PM (Bv0Y3)

193 The third Bill & Ted movie was as good as it was gonna get given the circumstances. Worth a watch if you're already into the characters.…
Posted by: Adrienne Barbeau's Bountiful Breasts

When I finally got around to seeing B&T3, I have to admit to liking it, warts and all, mostly because it was so, much later, B&T had aged (if not matured), the kids were a nice touch. And my expectations had been really low, so…

TJM, you've probably covered Back to the Future in some post? There was a pair of sequels that rounded out the original pretty nicely. Of course, not having been planned originally, there were problems, like switching the girlfriend actress, and introducing Marty's lame "chicken" problem only in the 2nd part, but I thought it worked pretty well. Parts 2 & 3 harked back to Part 1 in funny ways, but not strictly, with Part 3 the biggest departure from the formula. The end package is more than just sequels, it's a true trilogy, three more-or-less standalone tales that make up one big saga. No time-travel flick will ever match that.

And it's especially good for how it drives some folks crazy because of all the paradoxes. Don't think about it, just enjoy the zany romp.

Posted by: mindful webworker - whitewalls on a DeLorean hahahaha at June 28, 2025 09:09 PM (l5rRq)

194 Some podcast I was listening to was talking about how bad an actress Jennifer Lawrence is. Like really bad. I don't know, are there any really good actresses now?
Posted by: Guy who takes ever

I don't agree with that opinion. She was really good in Winter Bone which sparked her career. She played crazy pretty well in Silver Lining Playbook . And she was good in the last comedy she made where she got nekkid.

Posted by: polynikes at June 28, 2025 09:10 PM (VofaG)

195 "Some podcast I was listening to was talking about how bad an actress Jennifer Lawrence is. Like really bad. I don't know, are there any really good actresses now?"

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Florence Pugh. She didn't have much to do in Dune II, but in "Black Widow" and "Thunderbolts" she was a revelation. Her performance in the latter is the only Oscar-worthy performance I've ever seen in a Marvel movie.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at June 28, 2025 09:10 PM (5YmYl)

196 Helen Mirren playing Golda was amazing.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 28, 2025 09:10 PM (HFcKg)

197 watched Man from UNCLE the other week.... Henry Cavill could do Bond well, I think."

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I had the same reaction. He'd be perfect. Also, set the new films back in the Cold War 1960s. Give us back the Bond we loved.
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at June 28, 2025 09:05 PM (5YmYl)

Denis Villnueve is directing the next Bond and the last I heard was they were down to 3 tom holland, Jacob elordi, and Harris Dickinson. I don't think any of them are a decent Bond.

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 28, 2025 09:11 PM (MGB5H)

198 I am a purist. There is only ONE Star Wars movie, the one I saw in 1977 as a 14 year old nerd. And the more garbage they've hooked to the Star Wars brand, the more I think that, we're I to invent a time machine, I would not go back and throttle Gavrilo Princip in his crib. Rather, George Lucas would be targeted.

The only sequels I recognize are:

1. Aliens
2. Top Gun: Maverick
3. Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khaaaaaaaaannn!

That's it.

Posted by: Sharkman at June 28, 2025 09:11 PM (/RHNq)

199 I recall that Firearms IMDB (or whatever it's called) had an amazing ultra-geeked-out look at the guns in Zulu, noting how they didn't have enough historically correct Martini-Henry rifles, so they modified another model to fill out the prop set.

Color Sergeant Bourne might be the most memorable supporting character in any movie I can think of.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 28, 2025 09:11 PM (1m82a)

200 191 Fugitive clip, and better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1IEtzj23ws

Both pretty cool.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 28, 2025 09:09 PM (XeU6L)

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The Fugitive sequence does include special effects, though. The studio just kind of lies about it.

It's the insertion of Ford into the scene. They used a process called Introvision.

https://youtu.be/8q_HpSq95bw

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 28, 2025 09:12 PM (GBKbO)

201 I liked both Red and Red 2 .

Posted by: polynikes at June 28, 2025 09:12 PM (VofaG)

202 Oh, Brosnan and Helen Mirren are killing it in Mobland. Another fun very stabby show.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 28, 2025 09:08 PM (3kB0K)

They greenlit season 2 this week.

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 28, 2025 09:12 PM (MGB5H)

203 They greenlit season 2 this week.
Posted by: BruceWayne

Yay!!!

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 28, 2025 09:12 PM (3kB0K)

204 Polynikes, I did too. Definitely repeat watchers.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 28, 2025 09:13 PM (HFcKg)

205 I don't agree with that opinion. She was really good in Winter Bone which sparked her career. She played crazy pretty well in Silver Lining Playbook . And she was good in the last comedy she made where she got nekkid.
Posted by: polynikes

Yeah, I was surprised by how funny Jennifer Lawrence was in No Hard Feelings.

Posted by: She Hobbit at June 28, 2025 09:13 PM (ftFVW)

206 Saw The Lion in Winter recently. It was Timothy Dalton's first movie . He was King Philip of France. A good film

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 28, 2025 09:13 PM (eBgDF)

207 Some podcast I was listening to was talking about how bad an actress Jennifer Lawrence is. Like really bad. I don't know, are there any really good actresses now?
Posted by: Guy who takes everything literally at June 28, 2025 09:05 PM (r2ymA)

Good question.

Is Meryl Streep considered "now?" Dunno.

I kind of like Jodie Foster. She did the most recent True Detective which I liked.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 28, 2025 09:13 PM (Mmf4/)

208 I'd argue the women in the Moore movies were hotter than the norm. Although Dalton's were good and I loved Goldeneye.

I need to rewatch the Dalton Bond movies.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 28, 2025 08:20 PM (bss/y)

Carey Lowell cannot pull off having shorter hair than most guys. That is a major strike against Licence to Kill. (Although towards the beginning when she has longer hair, she is actually kinda hot.)

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 28, 2025 09:13 PM (vm8sq)

209 Oh and Jennifer Lawrence was great in Red Sparrow. I love that movie . Better than Atomic Blonde IMO.

Posted by: polynikes at June 28, 2025 09:14 PM (VofaG)

210 163
'I thought they were supposed to do a Constantine sequel.'

I think they have Pedro Pascal playing Constantine this time.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 28, 2025 09:14 PM (3wi/L)

211 193 And it's especially good for how it drives some folks crazy because of all the paradoxes. Don't think about it, just enjoy the zany romp.
Posted by: mindful webworker - whitewalls on a DeLorean hahahaha at June 28, 2025 09:09 PM (l5rRq)

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Since the ending of 1 was just a joke, I've always wondered why they didn't start 2 with another joke.

Opening titles. The DeLorean shows up in 85. "Wow, what a great adventure. Really saved our kids. Alright Jennifer, you stay here. I'm going to have another adventure with Doc now. Be back in time for our date at the lake."

And they switched actresses because the original stopped acting to take care of her dying mother.

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 28, 2025 09:14 PM (GBKbO)

212 I think they have Pedro Pascal playing Constantine this time.
Posted by: Dr. Claw

WT... you better be joking

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 28, 2025 09:15 PM (3kB0K)

213 I think they have Pedro Pascal playing Constantine this time.
Posted by: Dr. Claw

Shut your filthy mouth!

Posted by: She Hobbit at June 28, 2025 09:16 PM (ftFVW)

214 Florence Pugh. She didn't have much to do in Dune II, but in "Black Widow" and "Thunderbolts" she was a revelation. Her performance in the latter is the only Oscar-worthy performance I've ever seen in a Marvel movie.
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at June 28, 2025 09:10 PM

I may be biased, but I love Florence. She brings this unique humor and at the same time seriousness in every role she's in. Plus we get to see her boobs in Oppenheimer.

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 28, 2025 09:16 PM (MGB5H)

215 I did a train-in-danger double feature a few weeks ago with "The Cassandra Crossing" and "Runaway Train".

The first was a semi-campy '70s disaster flick (with OJ Simpson, no less.) Enjoyable enough.

The second was fantastic, far smarter than its cheesy title and Cannon Group pedigree would suggest, with an absolutely incredible performance by Jon Voight.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at June 28, 2025 09:16 PM (5YmYl)

216
the 1st Romana

Hubba hubba

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 28, 2025 09:16 PM (63Dwl)

217 And they switched actresses because the original stopped acting to take care of her dying mother.
Posted by: TJM's phone at June 28, 2025 09:14 PM (GBKbO)

Which reminds me of Karate Kid.

That all turned stupid fast.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 28, 2025 09:16 PM (Mmf4/)

218 206 Saw The Lion in Winter recently. It was Timothy Dalton's first movie . He was King Philip of France. A good film
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 28, 2025 09:13 PM (eBgDF)

Lion in Winter is one of my Top 10 all time movies, don’t get me started on how much I love it! Amazingly, it was also Anthony Hopkins first movie.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 28, 2025 09:16 PM (HEGiN)

219 Lion in Winter. Used to see it every year at the Circle Theater in DC, which showed only old films and classics.
Anthony Hopkins's first film too?

Used to love watching Casablanca there. Crowd would do some hissing, booing, and cheering at appropriate times, and lots of people sang the Marseillaise during that epic scene.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 28, 2025 09:17 PM (1m82a)

220 217 Which reminds me of Karate Kid.

That all turned stupid fast.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 28, 2025 09:16 PM (Mmf4/)

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I've only seen the first one and the Jaden Smith one at the dollar theater.

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 28, 2025 09:17 PM (GBKbO)

221 And she was good in the last comedy she made where she got nekkid.

Hard to not like a 5' 10" blonde beauty doing a naked Judo throw on a beach. ( And yes, I know about stunt doubles) Besides her under acting during the Maneater piano serenade in the night club was really first rate work.

Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at June 28, 2025 09:18 PM (Da7Vv)

222 Which reminds me of Karate Kid.

That all turned stupid fast.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 28, 2025 09:16 PM (Mmf4/)

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I've only seen the first one and the Jaden Smith one at the dollar theater.
Posted by: TJM's phone at June 28

What?! No next karate kid with Hilary Swank?!

Also Cobra Kai is a lot of fun.

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 28, 2025 09:19 PM (MGB5H)

223 Roger Corman shout out. I watched these over the past couple weeks and while not exactly a sequel, Big Bad Mama most certainly is a sequel.

Bloody Mama (1970) Directed by Roger Corman. Staring Shelley Winters playing a very pervy GIRL BOSS Ma Barker. Rating: Double Plus Good.

Big Bad Mama (1974) - Produced by Roger. Directed by Steve Carver. Angie Dickinson, William Shatner, and Tom Skerritt. Roger never met a boob he wouldn't put in a movie at least once. This masterpiece is an early GIRL BOSS flick.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convicitions at June 28, 2025 09:19 PM (NXz8h)

224 Used to love watching Casablanca there. Crowd would do some hissing, booing, and cheering at appropriate times, and lots of people sang the Marseillaise during that epic scene.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 28, 2025 09:17 PM (1m82a)

I bet that was fun. Casablanca my favorite movie.

Posted by: polynikes at June 28, 2025 09:19 PM (VofaG)

225 222 What?! No next karate kid with Hilary Swank?!

Also Cobra Kai is a lot of fun.
Posted by: BruceWayne at June 28, 2025 09:19 PM (MGB5H)

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One day, eventually.

And..tv...ew. like, gross.

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 28, 2025 09:20 PM (GBKbO)

226 When do we get Risky Business 2: Riskier Business?

Starring Pedro Pascal no doubt.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 28, 2025 09:20 PM (Mmf4/)

227 The only sequels I recognize are:

1. Aliens
2. Top Gun: Maverick
3. Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khaaaaaaaaannn!

That's it.
Posted by: Sharkman at June 28, 2025 09:11 PM (/RHNq)

Terminator 2, Rocky II and III.

Posted by: Guy who takes everything literally at June 28, 2025 09:20 PM (r2ymA)

228 " There is only ONE Star Wars movie, the one I saw in 1977 as a 14 year old nerd"

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"Rogue One" was very good. A Star Wars war movie with genuine sacrifice.

Hated all the others.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at June 28, 2025 09:20 PM (5YmYl)

229 I liked Hillary Swank best in " Million Dollar Baby"

Posted by: Ben Had at June 28, 2025 09:21 PM (HFcKg)

230 Addams Family Values was better than the original.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, punching the iPad screen like a chimp at June 28, 2025 09:21 PM (Bv0Y3)

231 If you notice, in Casablanca Ilsa never kisses Victor .

Posted by: polynikes at June 28, 2025 09:21 PM (VofaG)

232 Also Cobra Kai is a lot of fun.
Posted by: BruceWayne

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One day, eventually.

And..tv...ew. like, gross.
Posted by: TJM's phone

The first season was done kind of indie on ewetoob and is... chef's kiss.

Posted by: She Hobbit at June 28, 2025 09:21 PM (ftFVW)

233 Maybe Carey Lowell couldn't pull off having hair that short in License to Kill, but it didn't seem that off-putting to me. Besides, the legs more than made up for it. YMMV.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 28, 2025 09:22 PM (q3u5l)

234
Used to love watching Casablanca there. Crowd would do some hissing, booing, and cheering at appropriate times, and lots of people sang the Marseillaise during that epic scene.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 28, 2025

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I'll always think fondly about seeing Casablanca during its 50th-anniversary release at the Lensic neighborhood theatre in Santa Fe in '92. Very much the same audience reactions as you mention.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 28, 2025 09:22 PM (omVj0)

235 The only sequels I recognize are:

1. Aliens
2. Top Gun: Maverick
3. Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khaaaaaaaaannn!

That's it.
Posted by: Sharkman at June 28, 2025 09:11 PM (/RHNq)

Terminator 2, Rocky II and III.
Posted by: Guy who takes everything literally at June 28, 2025 09:20 PM (r2ymA)

Scorcher VI: Global Meltdown

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 28, 2025 09:22 PM (MGB5H)

236 "Rogue One" was very good. A Star Wars war movie with genuine sacrifice.

Hated all the others.
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at June 28, 2025 09:20 PM (5YmYl)

Andor is perfect with that and as a lead in. It really works.

The Darth Vader bits in Rogue One seemed a little unnecessary to me but to each their own.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 28, 2025 09:23 PM (Mmf4/)

237 Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at June 28, 2025 09:18 PM (Da7Vv)

No stunt double. All her.

Posted by: polynikes at June 28, 2025 09:23 PM (VofaG)

238 One of the most fun things about Lion in Winter is that Katherine Hepburn and Peter O’Toole are outrageously trying to out act and outshine each other for the entire film; but every historical record says that the original Henry and Eleanor were *exactly* like this with each other, so it fits. (Eleanor really did lead a civil war and try to get her husband killed once.)

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 28, 2025 09:23 PM (HEGiN)

239 We interrupt TJM's most excellent Movie Thread with an important Sunday Morning Book Thread update:

I've finally finished all 1,259 pages of Peter F. Hamilton's The Neutronium Alchemist. Now to start the next book, 1,244 pages of The Naked God. I'm not expecting it to have boobs.

Now back to your regular bogus shenanigans, dudes!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 28, 2025 09:23 PM (IBQGV)

240 230 Addams Family Values was better than the original.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, punching the iPad screen like a chimp at June 28, 2025 09:21 PM (Bv0Y3)

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Sending the kids to camp is a great example of actually knowing the appeal of the first one.

It's the characters being macabre. Can do that anywhere, the brighter the better. The first did see that contrast from time to time, but letting the kids loose in Values just feels like...more in all the best ways.

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 28, 2025 09:23 PM (GBKbO)

241 Terminator 2, Rocky II and III.
Posted by: Guy who takes everything literally

T2 is my favorite of the Terminators. Maybe I was the right age of kid and also GNR!

Posted by: She Hobbit at June 28, 2025 09:23 PM (ftFVW)

242 I will admit: my favorite Bonds are Roger Moore and Sean Connery. Their movies were shown on ABC back in the day, and my father loved Bond, and this is one of the very few influences my father had on me in that regard. Dalton is…OK. I wish he had more opportunities. Brosnan is bloody awesome and Craig…sucks. Only Lazenby was worse.

The only reason I do not rank Brosnan higher is pure sentiment as again I was raised on Connery and Moore.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 28, 2025 09:24 PM (vm8sq)

243 212 213
I think they have Pedro Pascal playing Constantine this time.
Posted by: Dr. Claw

'WT... you better be joking'
'Shut your filthy mouth!'

OK. I may have made that up.

It'll probably be Kevin Hart.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 28, 2025 09:25 PM (3wi/L)

244 233 Maybe Carey Lowell couldn't pull off having hair that short in License to Kill, but it didn't seem that off-putting to me. Besides, the legs more than made up for it. YMMV.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 28, 2025 09:22 PM (q3u5l)

She couldn’t do it for me in L&O. At all.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 28, 2025 09:25 PM (vm8sq)

245 This is odd - I'm not sure if I'm here because in real life I'm bored, or if this is so interesting that everything in real life just seems boring.

Hm.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 28, 2025 09:25 PM (Mmf4/)

246 I liked Hillary Swank best in " Million Dollar Baby"
Posted by: Ben Had

For sure. This is one of my favorite Clint movies.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convicitions at June 28, 2025 09:26 PM (NXz8h)

247 229 I liked Hillary Swank best in " Million Dollar Baby"
Posted by: Ben Had at June 28, 2025 09:21 PM (HFcKg)

Agree ...

Posted by: browndog like real lemon meringue pie, not that canned shit at June 28, 2025 09:26 PM (TTAGa)

248 Also, Pubert is the greatest baby name ever. My dad laughed every time he heard it.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, punching the iPad screen like a chimp at June 28, 2025 09:26 PM (Bv0Y3)

249 She couldn’t do it for me in L&O. At all.
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 28, 2025 09:25 PM (vm8sq

Angie Harmon and Alena De La Garza are the GOAT adas.

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 28, 2025 09:26 PM (MGB5H)

250 Going to repeat my movie recommendation .

Mr Right with Sam Rockwell. I'm mad nobody told me about this movie before.

Sam Rockwell is # 3 on the actors has the most movies I like.

Posted by: polynikes at June 28, 2025 09:26 PM (VofaG)

251 This is odd - I'm not sure if I'm here because in real life I'm bored, or if this is so interesting that everything in real life just seems boring.

Hm.
Posted by: WitchDoktor

AoSHQ: more interesting than real life

Posted by: She Hobbit at June 28, 2025 09:27 PM (ftFVW)

252 Scorcher VI: Global Meltdown
Posted by: BruceWayne at June 28, 2025 09:22 PM (MGB5H)

LOL.

Posted by: Guy who takes everything literally at June 28, 2025 09:28 PM (r2ymA)

253 Going to repeat my movie recommendation .

Mr Right with Sam Rockwell. I'm mad nobody told me about this movie before.

Sam Rockwell is # 3 on the actors has the most movies I like.
Posted by: polynikes at June 28,

Moon

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 28, 2025 09:28 PM (MGB5H)

254 CowDemon -- Can't say about Carey Lowell in Law & Order, as I've never seen an episode. And from what I hear, I'm probably happier for that.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 28, 2025 09:28 PM (q3u5l)

255 245 This is odd - I'm not sure if I'm here because in real life I'm bored, or if this is so interesting that everything in real life just seems boring.

Hm.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 28, 2025 09:25 PM (Mmf4/)

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I blame Quentin Tarantino.

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 28, 2025 09:28 PM (GBKbO)

256 Saw Grumpy Old Men with my boss years ago. I loved it. Thought my boss was gonna die laughing.
Posted by: Pug Mahon

Just the opening, if you live in that climate.

We're having a heat wave
A tropical heat wave

Gold, Jerry!

Posted by: mikeski at June 28, 2025 09:28 PM (DgGvY)

257 253 Moon
Posted by: BruceWayne at June 28, 2025 09:28 PM (MGB5H)

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M-O-O-N spells moon.

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 28, 2025 09:29 PM (GBKbO)

258 Posted by: Tom Servo at June 28, 2025 09:23 PM (HEGiN)

I like Peter O'Toole in My Favorite Year. That was a really good movie.

Posted by: polynikes at June 28, 2025 09:29 PM (VofaG)

259 There is no joy in Metsville.

Posted by: IrishEi at June 28, 2025 09:29 PM (3ImbR)

260 This is odd - I'm not sure if I'm here because in real life I'm bored, or if this is so interesting that everything in real life just seems boring.

Hm.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 28, 2025 09:25 PM

Embrace the power of and.

Posted by: Wesley Crusher at June 28, 2025 09:29 PM (0sNs1)

261 249 She couldn’t do it for me in L&O. At all.
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 28, 2025 09:25 PM (vm8sq

Angie Harmon and Alena De La Garza are the GOAT adas.
Posted by: BruceWayne at June 28, 2025 09:26 PM (MGB5H)

(Fist bump) honorable mention to Annie Parisse. I love brunettes.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 28, 2025 09:29 PM (vm8sq)

262 The Fallen movies Olympus Has Fallen and London Has Fallen, the 3rd was terrible. I enjoyed them, Hell they could make a 4th and use Butler, but have Iranian's/Terrorists storming a outdoor rally. it writes itself.

But Hollywood would make it about a right wing group like they did with Angel has Fallen.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 28, 2025 09:30 PM (FCrpy)

263 A 5th Element sequel could have been interesting.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

I can't imagine. I put that one in the "unsequelable" list. Along with Galaxy Quest. And Rocketeer.

I have a certain liking for "Enchanted". I think of it as a wonderful "last great" Disney flick. I found out there was a sequel. I try not to think about that.

Posted by: mindful webworker - how do you knoooowww at June 28, 2025 09:30 PM (l5rRq)

264 Does it count as a sequel if the original is a TV series?

Because Mandalorian is going to seriously suck.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 28, 2025 09:30 PM (Mmf4/)

265 I like a rethinking of a piece of work. Covers of songs you have known for years done differently and great in a different way. Different can be great and "better" doesn't have to enter in to the discussion. Let the sequel be a different movie, not a repeat.

Posted by: Beaver at June 28, 2025 09:31 PM (tCdjd)

266 I have a certain liking for "Enchanted". I think of it as a wonderful "last great" Disney flick. I found out there was a sequel. I try not to think about that.
Posted by: mindful webworker - how do you knoooowww at June 28, 2025 09:30 PM (l5rRq)

It's TERRIBLE.

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 28, 2025 09:31 PM (MGB5H)

267 "Sam Rockwell is # 3 on the actors has the most movies I like."

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Sam Rockwell gets the coveted "f***in'" interstitial in his name, like Gary f***in' Oldman and (if you're a fan of character actors like I am) Clancy f***in' Brown.

Sam f***in' Rockwell is the man.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at June 28, 2025 09:32 PM (5YmYl)

268 Does it count as a sequel if the original is a TV series?

Because Mandalorian is going to seriously suck.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 28, 2025 09:30 PM (Mmf4/)
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I think "spin-off" is a better description for a TV series that's derived from a movie. Not sure what the term is when it's the other way around (see Firefly/Serenity).

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 28, 2025 09:32 PM (IBQGV)

269 254 CowDemon -- Can't say about Carey Lowell in Law & Order, as I've never seen an episode. And from what I hear, I'm probably happier for that.
Posted by: Just Some Guy
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Munch, lead detective in TV cops & robbers. Right.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 28, 2025 09:33 PM (ytCg4)

270 Evening.

More Jurassic schlock is coming out?

Fucking really?!?

Posted by: Robert at June 28, 2025 09:33 PM (KnnTg)

271 There is no joy in Metsville.
Posted by: IrishEi

Ha! May we have a moment of silence for the Colorado Rockies who are on a 5 game losing streak. Their current record is 18 wins - 65 loses. Maybe a priest should be called to administer the last rites instead of moment of silence.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convicitions at June 28, 2025 09:34 PM (NXz8h)

272 Not sure what the term is when it's the other way around (see Firefly/Serenity).
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

Consolation. Though that may only apply in that one case.

Posted by: She Hobbit at June 28, 2025 09:34 PM (ftFVW)

273 More Jurassic schlock is coming out?

Fucking really?!?
Posted by: Robert at June 28, 2025 09:33 PM (KnnTg)

The last JP finished up the entire arc. Where else is there to go or do??

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 28, 2025 09:34 PM (Mmf4/)

274 Evening.

More Jurassic schlock is coming out?

Fucking really?!?
Posted by: Robert

Scarlett Johansson playing a girl boss. Saw the trailer.

Posted by: Tuna at June 28, 2025 09:35 PM (lJ0H4)

275 Ha! May we have a moment of silence for the Colorado Rockies who are on a 5 game losing streak. Their current record is 18 wins - 65 loses. Maybe a priest should be called to administer the last rites instead of moment of silence.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convicitions at June 28, 2025 09:34 PM (NXz8h)

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Sniff.

I switched from the Rockies to the Rapids. They are playing pretty well tonight even after a bullshit penalty shot call from the idiot ref.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 28, 2025 09:35 PM (Mmf4/)

276 More Jurassic schlock is coming out?

Fucking really?!?
Posted by: Robert

I've trying to work out how they have kids in the new one. Just can't see even a bad reason justifying it.

Posted by: She Hobbit at June 28, 2025 09:36 PM (ftFVW)

277 I would truly like to know what ever made Robert Duvall make "Wild Horses". Worst movie ever.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 28, 2025 09:36 PM (HFcKg)

278 Hillary Sank is a terrific actress. She didn't get big, I think, because she isn't pretty and has a kind of masculine face and jaw line.

Posted by: Guy who takes everything literally at June 28, 2025 09:36 PM (r2ymA)

279 Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at June 28, 2025 09:32 PM (5YmYl)

Hah. Gary F****ng Oldman is on my list #4 though he's probably the best actor today. He just doesn't have as many movies I like as the others.

Posted by: polynikes at June 28, 2025 09:36 PM (VofaG)

280 Evening.

More Jurassic schlock is coming out?

Fucking really?!?
Posted by: Robert

It's a place with the most dangerous dinosaurs. Couldn't even put them in one of the parks. So we definitely are going to take kids there.

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 28, 2025 09:36 PM (MGB5H)

281 The last JP finished up the entire arc. Where else is there to go or do??
Posted by: WitchDoktor

Replace the dinosaurs with hags from the View?

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convicitions at June 28, 2025 09:36 PM (NXz8h)

282 Evening.

More Jurassic schlock is coming out?

Fucking really?!?
Posted by: Robert at June 28, 2025 09:33 PM (KnnTg)
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At some point they're going to adapt Ray Bradbury's "A Sound of Thunder" but rebrand it as "Jurassic Thunder."

The T-Rex they are hunting will be a misunderstood creature just defending its mate/hatchling.

The time-traveling hunting party steps on a butterfly and returns to the future to find out Donald Trump is now POTUS when Kamala Harris was POTUS in the original timeline.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 28, 2025 09:36 PM (IBQGV)

283 It's a place with the most dangerous dinosaurs. Couldn't even put them in one of the parks. So we definitely are going to take kids there.
Posted by: BruceWayne at June 28, 2025 09:36 PM (MGB5H)

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"Yeah, we know that a lot of people died at Crystal Lake, and that Jason dude is creepy, but if we all stick together we will be fine and have fun!"

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 28, 2025 09:37 PM (Mmf4/)

284 I had the same reaction. He'd be perfect. Also, set the new films back in the Cold War 1960s. Give us back the Bond we loved.
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at June 28, 2025 09:05 PM (5YmYl)

You want Bond set in the 1960s? Then watch the six that were DONE in the the 1960s!!!

ITS BEEN DONE. MAKE SOMETHING NEW.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 28, 2025 09:37 PM (vm8sq)

285 Grumpy Old Men movies. These movies features two old guys whose wives kicked them out the house because they were underfoot plus Ann Margaret. I love these films because of the deep affection these three had for each is so apparent; it is infectious.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convicitions at June 28, 2025 09:05 PM (NXz8h)

Those were some funny ass movies. I have them on DVD. Just had to. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 28, 2025 09:38 PM (snZF9)

286 We are at 283 comments. Isn't this when this thread morphs into a movie thread? Just asking questions here.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convicitions at June 28, 2025 09:39 PM (NXz8h)

287 I like Peter O'Toole in My Favorite Year. That was a really good movie.

I only remember two lines from that movie and they're both O'Toole's. From memory so maybe not exact. "I'm not an actor, I'm a movie star!" "My dear boy, ladies are unwell. Gentlemen vomit."

Posted by: Oddbob at June 28, 2025 09:39 PM (/y8xj)

288 Jeez, Perfessor!

I'd tell you not to give them ideas, but they've probably already decided to do Jurassic Thunder just that way.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 28, 2025 09:39 PM (q3u5l)

289 Yeah, we know that a lot of people died at Crystal Lake, and that Jason dude is creepy, but if we all stick together we will be fine and have fun!"
Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 28, 2025 09:37 PM (Mmf4/)

To be fair, it was his psycho mom first.

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 28, 2025 09:39 PM (MGB5H)

290 I like Peter O'Toole in My Favorite Year. That was a really good movie.
Posted by: polynikes at June 28, 2025 09:29 PM (VofaG)

I love that too! The best thing is knowing it’s a slightly fictionalized tale of a weekend a very young Mel Brooks spent taking care of a very drunk and disorderly Erol Flynn, while he was working for Sid Caesar. It’s mostly a true story.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 28, 2025 09:39 PM (HEGiN)

291 Posted by: Tom Servo at June 28, 2025 09:39 PM (HEGiN

I didn't know that. And it does make it seem even better.

Posted by: polynikes at June 28, 2025 09:41 PM (VofaG)

292 To be fair, it was his psycho mom first.
Posted by: BruceWayne

And she died so, reasonably could assume the danger was over.

Posted by: She Hobbit at June 28, 2025 09:41 PM (ftFVW)

293 To be fair, it was his psycho mom first.
Posted by: BruceWayne

And she died so, reasonably could assume the danger was over.
Posted by: She Hobbit at June 28, 2025 09:41 PM (ftFVW

And Jason went to Hell at one point. So it's definitely safe to go to space.

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 28, 2025 09:42 PM (MGB5H)

294 Alex Winters is hilarious and watchable, and it is a shame he didn't act more. I remember Bogus Journey as being bad (RLM defends it), but I think I was just disappointed that there wasn't any more silly-history adventures.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 28, 2025 09:42 PM (lhenN)

295 Okay, I finally read the content. Backwards. Last section first and first section last.

I have a three volume set of Bill & Ted but I only got it for the first one. Heavy metal saves the world. This is a theme that speaks recognized a fundamental truth.

Posted by: Robert at June 28, 2025 09:42 PM (KnnTg)

296 I have a three volume set of Bill & Ted but I only got it for the first one. Heavy metal saves the world. This is a theme that speaks recognized a fundamental truth.

Posted by: Robert at June 28, 2025 09:42 PM (KnnTg)

Probably why I liked it so much. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 28, 2025 09:44 PM (snZF9)

297 We are at 283 comments. Isn't this when this thread morphs into a movie thread? Just asking questions here.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convicitions

Since this started with movies it should have turned into a boob thread a hundred comments ago.

Posted by: She Hobbit at June 28, 2025 09:44 PM (ftFVW)

298 Jeez, Perfessor!

I'd tell you not to give them ideas, but they've probably already decided to do Jurassic Thunder just that way.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 28, 2025 09:39 PM (q3u5l)
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Hollywood is so predictable these days, it's almost inevitable they will make that movie.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 28, 2025 09:44 PM (IBQGV)

299 Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 28, 2025 09:42 PM (lhenN)

Alex Winters has two movies that will immortalize him in the movie world.

Lost Boys being the other one.

Posted by: polynikes at June 28, 2025 09:44 PM (VofaG)

300 We are at 283 comments. Isn't this when this thread morphs into a movie thread? Just asking questions here.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convicitions

Since this started with movies it should have turned into a boob thread a hundred comments ago.
Posted by: She Hobbit

You are so correct.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convicitions at June 28, 2025 09:45 PM (NXz8h)

301 My grandson got me to watch Mandalorian with him. Season 1 was incredible, everything Star Wars should be. Seasons 2 & 3 turned into “2 guys you never met before go down to the coffee shop and talk and find out they both once knew a guy called the Mandalorian.” Boring and stupid.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 28, 2025 09:45 PM (HEGiN)

302 Lion in Winter was Timothy Dalton and Anthony Hopkins first film.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 28, 2025 09:45 PM (lhenN)

303 Since this started with movies it should have turned into a boob thread a hundred comments ago.
Posted by: She Hobbit at June 28, 2025 09:44 PM (ftFVW

Pretty sure people have pointed out JLaw and Florence Pugh boobs.

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 28, 2025 09:45 PM (MGB5H)

304 And Jason went to Hell at one point. So it's definitely safe to go to space.
Posted by: BruceWayne at June 28, 2025 09:42 PM (MGB5H)
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*** Jason X has entered the chat ***

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 28, 2025 09:45 PM (IBQGV)

305 Speaking of sequels....

I thought I would watch "Equalizer 2", since I didn't remember it all that well and the day before has watched "The Equalizer" which I really enjoyed.

Anyway, I fired it up on Netflix and-

Mutherfukka! Pedro Pascal was one of the main characters.

I go back in time to 2018 (so to speak) and still there's goddam Pedro "Slab o' Tofu" Pascal stinkin' up the screen.

He's really has no/weak screen presence. I have no idea how he got to be Hollywood's go-to guy.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 28, 2025 09:45 PM (iJfKG)

306 Since this started with movies it should have turned into a boob thread a hundred comments ago.
Posted by: She Hobbit

You are so correct.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convicitions at June 28, 2025 09:45 PM (NXz8h)

I tried by bringing up nekkid Jennifer Lawrence.

Posted by: polynikes at June 28, 2025 09:46 PM (VofaG)

307 The movies I'd like to see: faithful adaptations of a whole slew of novels by Simenon, Robert Silverberg, Don Robertson, Robert Heinlein, et al. Emphasis here is on 'faithful.'

Television? Bring back the anthology series. You could easily get twenty good seasons doing faithful (that word again) adaptations of short stories by Theodore Sturgeon, Irwin Shaw, Gerald Kersh, Lawrence Block, Philip K. Dick, Isaac Bashevis Singer, Harlan Ellison, Somerset Maugham, and onandonandon.

These are things I don't expect I'll live to see.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 28, 2025 09:46 PM (q3u5l)

308 Alex Winters has two movies that will immortalize him in the movie world.

Lost Boys being the other one.
Posted by: polynikes

Ha, I always forget he's in Lost Boys and get a delighted surprise whenever I watch it again.

Posted by: She Hobbit at June 28, 2025 09:46 PM (ftFVW)

309 Alex Winters has two movies that will immortalize him in the movie world.

Lost Boys being the other one.
Posted by: polynikes at June 28, 2025 09:44 PM (VofaG)

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And Freaked.

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 28, 2025 09:47 PM (GBKbO)

310 Mr Right with Sam Rockwell. I'm mad nobody told me about this movie before.

Posted by: polynikes

Great little flick. Anna Kendrick nails her role as well.

Posted by: Sharkman at June 28, 2025 09:47 PM (/RHNq)

311 Ok, see ya. I'm going to finish binging The Great.

Upthread there was a question about great actresses now. I have to mention Elle Fanning.

Later.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 28, 2025 09:48 PM (FdjOh)

312 Pretty sure people have pointed out JLaw and Florence Pugh boobs.
Posted by: BruceWayne

True enough, but brief mentions do not a boob thread make.

Posted by: She Hobbit at June 28, 2025 09:48 PM (ftFVW)

313 Heavy metal saves the world. This is a theme that speaks recognized a fundamental truth.
Posted by: Robert at June 28, 2025 09:42 PM (KnnTg)

Don't know if you're being serious or not, but Heavy Metal is by and large a steaming pile of hot garbage. Much the same as Rap and Hip-Hop.

Posted by: Guy who takes everything literally at June 28, 2025 09:48 PM (r2ymA)

314 "You want Bond set in the 1960s? Then watch the six that were DONE in the the 1960s!!!

ITS BEEN DONE. MAKE SOMETHING NEW"

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I don't trust Hollywood to do that. They'll make them "relevant" for "today's audience." We've had enough evidence that Bond doesn't work in that template.

James Bond is a '60s hero. We got "new Bond" with Jason Bourne.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at June 28, 2025 09:48 PM (5YmYl)

315 Pretty sure people have pointed out JLaw and Florence Pugh boobs.
Posted by: BruceWayne

True enough, but brief mentions do not a boob thread make.
Posted by: She Hobbit at June 28, 2025 09:48 PM (ftFVW

Hey polynikes and I are only 2 people. Y'all need to pick up the slack.

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 28, 2025 09:48 PM (MGB5H)

316 #5 actor on my list of 'in the most movies I like' is Guy Pearce.

Posted by: polynikes at June 28, 2025 09:49 PM (VofaG)

317 KISS wrote the song in the first Bill & Ted.

"Heavy metal will save the world" is so much better than "music and harmony will save the world".

Manowar, Warriors of the World

https://youtu.be/K70nC0FbxiU?si=S5rU0pRoUCM0cPuS

Dear lord read the comments at the link. I can't stop laughing.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 28, 2025 09:50 PM (lhenN)

318 Sean still my favorite Bond

Posted by: Skip at June 28, 2025 09:50 PM (+qU29)

319 Movie with the best surprise Boob scene is Just One of the Guys.

Second place is Trading Places.

Posted by: polynikes at June 28, 2025 09:51 PM (VofaG)

320 Sam Rockwell in Galaxy Quest was hysterical. "Do I ,Do I, Mommy"

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 28, 2025 09:53 PM (eBgDF)

321 >Don't know if you're being serious or not, but Heavy Metal is by and large a steaming pile of hot garbage. Much the same as Rap and Hip-Hop.
Posted by: Guy who takes everything literally at June 28, 2025 09:48 PM (r2ymA)

Sir your concern has been noted.
Please ask your primary care to get your T levels checked.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 28, 2025 09:53 PM (lhenN)

322 319 Movie with the best surprise Boob scene is Just One of the Guys.

Second place is Trading Places.
Posted by: polynikes at June 28, 2025 09:51 PM (VofaG)

Anne Hathaway in "Havoc" is right up there

Posted by: browndog like real lemon meringue pie, not that canned shit at June 28, 2025 09:54 PM (TTAGa)

323 Iron Maiden? Excellent!!

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 28, 2025 09:54 PM (woJlP)

324 Movie with the best surprise Boob scene is Just One of the Guys.

Second place is Trading Places.
Posted by: polynikes at June 28

Never ending story.....or we aren't counting busty statutes?

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 28, 2025 09:55 PM (MGB5H)

325 There should be more Jerry Cornelius movies
Posted by: Kindltot at June 28, 2025 08:23 PM (D7oie)
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I like Michael Moorcock, but I didn't like those books.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 28, 2025 08:25 PM (IBQGV)

"The Final Programme" was not a good movie.

I wanted it to be a good movie, but it steadfastly refused.

It was the "Britannia Hospital" of "No Time to Die"s.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 28, 2025 09:55 PM (iJfKG)

326 To the tune of “Spammity Spam! Wonderful Spam!”
I offer
“Boobity Boobs! Wonderful Boobs!”

Ending with Hail Britannia , etc.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 28, 2025 09:56 PM (HEGiN)

327 "Don't know if you're being serious or not, but Heavy Metal is by and large a steaming pile of hot garbage."

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If you mean the Cookie Monster-vocaled walls of noise of the past couple decades, I would agree. But if you are referring to Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, etc, then we shall respectfully disagree.

I mean, who else is writing songs about the Crimean War?

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at June 28, 2025 09:56 PM (5YmYl)

328 Bill and Ted's Excelent Adventure holds a dear place in my heart.
I took a date to see it and she turned out to be my first violation of rule #1. I did however dislike the movie. Hated 2 and only watched 3 because the wife had it on one night.
I did like that one. My faint memories of the first two gave me enough background to find it hilarious.

Also as a failed rock star I can relate. The whole never actually learning to play part is spot on. That's where I failed too.

Posted by: Reforger at June 28, 2025 09:56 PM (LgDgc)

329 I am glad Frank Zappa stuck to music instead of pursing a career making movies.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convicitions at June 28, 2025 09:56 PM (NXz8h)

330 He's really has no/weak screen presence. I have no idea how he got to be Hollywood's go-to guy.
Posted by: naturalfake

He sucks a mean dick, enthusiastically. They love him out here!

Posted by: Hollywood casting couch at June 28, 2025 09:57 PM (G1ktt)

331 Gloria Grahame is an unsung treasure.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 28, 2025 09:57 PM (CHHv1)

332 320 Sam Rockwell in Galaxy Quest was hysterical. "Do I ,Do I, Mommy"
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 28, 2025 09:53 PM (eBgDF)

Best Sam Rockwell line : “Oh, That’s Not Right!”

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 28, 2025 09:58 PM (HEGiN)

333 Best Sam Rockwell line : “Oh, That’s Not Right!”
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 28, 2025 09:58 PM (HEGiN)

Monk making out with the squid.

Posted by: polynikes at June 28, 2025 09:59 PM (VofaG)

334 @327 The Clash in The Card Cheat "from the Hundred Years war to the Crimea"

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 28, 2025 09:59 PM (eBgDF)

335 "Best Sam Rockwell line : “Oh, That’s Not Right!”

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No, that would be: "Can you form some sort of rudimentary lathe?"

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at June 28, 2025 10:00 PM (5YmYl)

336 I saw the first Bill and Ted with a group of friends in HS. Many laughs were had by all. It was a great teen movie. Stupid story? Sure. But silly enough to allow for the comedy to be good.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 28, 2025 10:00 PM (woJlP)

337 CLUB ONT IS OPEN

Posted by: Skip at June 28, 2025 10:01 PM (+qU29)

338 No, that would be: "Can you form some sort of rudimentary lathe?"
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at June 28, 2025 10:00 PM (5YmYl)

Definitely the most quoted line her at aos.

Posted by: polynikes at June 28, 2025 10:01 PM (VofaG)

339 331 Gloria Grahame is an unsung treasure.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 28, 2025 09:57 PM (CHHv1)

I agree with you, she made a string of excellent movies.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 28, 2025 10:01 PM (HEGiN)

340 Well, outta here.

Thanks for the thread, TJM.

Have a good one, gang.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 28, 2025 10:02 PM (q3u5l)

341 The ONT awaits your participation
NOOD, y'all.

https://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=415333

Posted by: mindful webworker - single file, no running at June 28, 2025 10:02 PM (l5rRq)

342 If you mean the Cookie Monster-vocaled walls of noise of the past couple decades, I would agree. But if you are referring to Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, etc, then we shall respectfully disagree.

I mean, who else is writing songs about the Crimean War?

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at June 28, 2025 09:56 PM (5YmYl)

Yeah, I mean the Cookie Monster-walls of noise. Sabbath, Iron Maiden and the like are Rock.

Posted by: Guy who takes everything literally at June 28, 2025 10:02 PM (r2ymA)

343 Castle Rat has a Black Sabbath vibe. The song Wizard dropped two weeks ago.

https://youtu.be/iWKmiTwjjHA?si=QLVp868ZsR-1_D-S

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 28, 2025 10:03 PM (lhenN)

344 I watched Moontrap last night with Walter Koenig and Bruce Campbell.

If there is an egg looking thing on a spaceship, don’t take it back with you.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 28, 2025 10:03 PM (Vh9CX)

345 Don't know if you're being serious or not, but Heavy Metal is by and large a steaming pile of hot garbage. Much the same as Rap and Hip-Hop.
Posted by: Guy who takes everything literally at June 28, 2025 09:48 PM (r2ymA)

Oooooohhhhh, mutha...okay, first off, hip hop barely qualifies as music as it is pretty much bereft of any musical talent whatsoever. If not for all the ~~plagiarism~~ sampling combined with a beat you'd have nothing to listen to except a guy ranting about doing drugs, fucking bitches and killing whitey.

Metal bands actually play their instruments. They're not strumming like a bunch of limp wristed pussies (ex. Any mainstream band), they play hard, fast and tight.

Posted by: Robert at June 28, 2025 10:06 PM (KnnTg)

346 Sabbath, Iron Maiden and the like are Rock.
Posted by: Guy who takes everything literally at June 28, 2025 10:02 PM (r2ymA)

Sabbath and Maiden are metal.

Posted by: Robert at June 28, 2025 10:08 PM (KnnTg)

347 really late to the thread. Wife wanted to watch Gladiator II.

From, "Luke, I mean, Lucien, I am your mother" to "You killed my mother, prepare to die" this film barely rose the level of competent story telling.

I've seen 1950's B movies which were better done than this piece of a historical nonsense.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 28, 2025 10:14 PM (tT6L1)

348 I thought that Bill & Ted 3 completed the trilogy in a satisfying manner.

Posted by: toby928 at June 28, 2025 10:22 PM (jc0TO)

349 I am glad Frank Zappa stuck to music instead of pursing a career making movies.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convicitions at June 28, 2025 09:56 PM

I want to see The Zipper from the Black Lagoon.

Posted by: toby928 at June 28, 2025 10:25 PM (jc0TO)

350 Alien and Aliens. Liked the first one. The sequel is my all time favorite science fiction movie.

Posted by: altered states at June 29, 2025 12:03 AM (CfpKB)

351
"The Zipper from the Black Lagoon"

I know this one. Frankie Avalon and Annette Funicello travel to Kissimmee FL to prevent a waterskiing contest from being sabotaged by Harvey Lembeck (von Zipper).

Posted by: Arbalest at June 29, 2025 12:19 AM (FlRtG)

352 I don't trust Hollywood to do that. They'll make them "relevant" for "today's audience." We've had enough evidence that Bond doesn't work in that template.

James Bond is a '60s hero. We got "new Bond" with Jason Bourne.
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at June 28, 2025 09:48 PM (5YmYl)

You don’t trust Hollywood to make a modern day Bond but then you very blithely say that you trust them to NOT inject “modern audience” “This is what the 1960s needed to look like” bullshit into a period piece?

Either make Bond in the current era, sans the woke mind virus, or don’t fucking make any.

If you set Bond in the 1960s, you are competing against the GOAT and no matter what, you will fail. And again, if I so badly want to see Bond in the 1960s, I already have six flicks, five of which feature the GOAT.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 29, 2025 02:02 AM (BugZp)

353
James Bond is a '60s hero. We got "new Bond" with Jason Bourne.
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Bourne is not Bond. Bourne is a straight up action hero. (I never warmed up to Bourne. To me, he seemed like an overpowered Mary Sue.). Bond CAN go into action hero mode but that is one facet of his character. He is part detective, part action hero, and above all, is the very definition of a Renaissance Man. To me, as an adult, that above all is the appeal of Bond. He is a timeless masculine archetype. All the more reason to introduce him to the 2020s.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 29, 2025 02:07 AM (BugZp)

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