Trump Shows Frustration at Israel, Iran, and the Leftwing Gaslight Media

Iran violated the ceasefire a bit, and Israel rushed to punish them for that.

Trump's annoyed that his ceasefire isn't being embraced by both sides.

I think this would be a good time to just say "Let them fight, they clearly want to fight, and the US shouldn't particularly care about stopping them." Particularly given that Iran is crippled and ready to topple.

But Trump does want to appease the Ron Paul pacifist bloc of MAGA, and he wants to honor his pledge to "end more wars than he starts."

[W]hen Iran violated the planned ceasefire and Israel retaliated, Trump was none happy happy about it. Speaking to reporters before departing for the NATO summit at The Hague, Trump was asked whether he believed Iran remained committed to the ceasefire after Israel accused Tehran of violating the agreement. "Yeah, I do. Uh, they violated, but Israel violated it, too," he said, making clear that he saw fault on both sides.
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The crisis unfolded just hours after the ceasefire took effect, with Iran launching three missiles toward Israel. All the missiles were either intercepted or landed harmlessly, causing no injuries or damage.
When pressed further on Israel's commitment, Trump didn't hold back. "Israel, as soon as we made the deal, they came out and they dropped a load of bombs, the likes of which I'd never seen before. The biggest load that we've seen. I'm not happy with Israel. You know, when, when I say, 'Okay, now you have 12 hours,' you don't go out in the first hour and just drop everything you have on 'em. So I'm not happy with them. I'm not happy with Iran, either. But I'm really unhappy if Israel's going out this morning because of one rocket that didn't land, that was shot, perhaps by mistake, that didn't land."

Wasn't that the whole point of giving them 12 hours before the ceasefire? I'm sure that was the whole point as far as Israel is concerned. When countries accept a ceasefire to begin in the future, they're putting the ceasefire off precisely because they want to get in last licks.

Trump's frustration was palpable as he continued, "I'm not happy about that."

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Trump summed up his exasperation with a blunt assessment: "You know what we have? We basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don't know what the f--k they're doing. Do you understand that?"

Trump was also angry at the "gutless losers" at CNN and "MSDNC" for attempting to find the dark lining in the silver cloud.

President Trump stares into CNN’s camera and calls them a bunch of “gutless losers” for not respecting the B-2 pilots.

Amazing.

“You're real losers.”

“I say that to CNN because I watch it. I have no choice. I got to watch that garbage.
It's all garbage. It's all… pic.twitter.com/nQ6comnfZj
— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) June 24, 2025

Meanwhile: The DHS is rounding up Iranian illegals, at least until a federal judge orders them to all be set free to plant their bombs and execute their targets.

NEW 🔴

NBC: ICE arrested 11 Iranian nationals in 48 hours, including Mehran Makari Sahel in St. Paul, a former IRGC member with ties to Hezbollah.
— Open Source Intel (@Osint613) June 24, 2025

Update: Jeb! checks in.

The writers of Trump season two have outdone themselves.

The wildest of plot twists. pic.twitter.com/KCgu3hs1n3
— Bonchie (@bonchieredstate) June 24, 2025

thanks to Piper.

Posted by: Ace at 12:22 PM

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1 Wall it off, let them fight.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 24, 2025 12:24 PM (NR6c1)

2 Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Posted by: H at June 24, 2025 12:24 PM (2gjbv)

3 Gosh, seems like President Trump sees Israel the same way I do. I support Israel but I certainly do not agree with everything they do.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 24, 2025 12:25 PM (tT6L1)

4 Trump was pissed.. I don't blame him...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 24, 2025 12:25 PM (VE6XX)

5 Well, he sorta jumped the gun declaring the cease fire.
I assume this is just him being his own hype man and trying to use social pressure to make the cease fire happen.

This fire is going to burn until the Mullahs are out of power.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 24, 2025 12:26 PM (xcxpd)

6 Trump needs to learn to do the Jim Carrey thing with his thumb and forefinger held to his forehead:

Lah-Hoo-Sers.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 24, 2025 12:26 PM (Riz8t)

7 Well, he sorta jumped the gun declaring the cease fire.
I assume this is just him being his own hype man and trying to use social pressure to make the cease fire happen.

Agreed.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 24, 2025 12:27 PM (Riz8t)

8 ‘ Trump does want to appease the Ron Paul pacifist bloc of MAGA’

Trump should be doing this. We are not far enough ahead of the game to be kissing off like minded people.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 24, 2025 12:27 PM (jbnUc)

9 Gutless losers. Succinct, I like it

Posted by: Zeera , Damn Right I voted for all of this! at June 24, 2025 12:27 PM (Eh9yK)

10
It's not like he was going to get a Nobel anyway.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 24, 2025 12:27 PM (GEhCH)

11 I don't think Trump likes to be "disrespected." He said there was a cease-fire... in his mind that's all that need be said.

I'd let 'em fight it out.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 24, 2025 12:27 PM (Q4IgG)

12 I took President Trump's ceasefire statement yesterday to mean that Israel and Iran had just so much time to get their last shots in.

And good job by the CBC for airing President's big, beautiful F-bomb without the stupid beats.

Posted by: Stateless.. 42% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 24, 2025 12:28 PM (jvJvP)

13 Well, he sorta jumped the gun declaring the cease fire.
I assume this is just him being his own hype man and trying to use social pressure to make the cease fire happen.

Yeah, he's a little too needy about this ceasefire for some reason (likely support for his big beautiful bill, which just had judicial reform stripped out of it by the Democrats).

Posted by: Ian S. at June 24, 2025 12:28 PM (2ocoG)

14 It's not like he was going to get a Nobel anyway.

I doubt he'd accept it. After all, Obama got one.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 24, 2025 12:28 PM (Riz8t)

15 I don't think we all know the sites are destroyed.

Posted by: toby928 at June 24, 2025 12:28 PM (jc0TO)

16 @4

>>Trump was pissed.. I don't blame him...

Trump is just an optometrist at heart, it's really up to Iran, if the continue to FA, Trump is more than happy make them FO good and hard.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 24, 2025 12:28 PM (XV/Pl)

17 The ceasefire is holding right now. I hope it can continue now that it’s started.

Really wasn’t for it .

Posted by: polynikes at June 24, 2025 12:28 PM (VofaG)

18 >> Iran violated the ceasefire a bit

Just the tip.

Posted by: m at June 24, 2025 12:28 PM (CQE5S)

19 >>I don't think Trump likes to be "disrespected."

What is he, black?

Posted by: garrett at June 24, 2025 12:29 PM (MmNOR)

20 Love Trump, but his complete cluelessness about Iran, in that he is dealing with Islam and not civilized people is rather maddening.

He thinks he's going to make even the mullahs fake being a Yasser Arafat phony. No one faked sincerity better than he did.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 24, 2025 12:29 PM (x0n13)

21 Trump is just an optometrist at heart,

He gives eye exams?

Posted by: Ian S. at June 24, 2025 12:29 PM (2ocoG)

22 Interesting development. I'm sure Trump will be called weak and anti-Israel by the people who were so big on a regime change, since Iran has "been at war with us since the 1970's" and Trump is clearly pissed at Israel for violating the cease fire. Or at least, the spirit of the cease fire.

I hope Trump holds steady on this one.

As far as letting Israel and Iran fight it out -- that is now complicated by the fact that the US is undeniably involved in this war, no? Not only as Israel's arsenal, but we've also now bombed Iran with US planes and US troops.

And of course we have Medvedev's not very veiled threat to arm Iran with Russian nuclear weapons lingering in the background.

Let's all hope and pray Trump can thread this needle and somehow find a way to extradite ourselves from this very unpleasant situation, and hopefully he learned a lesson here about why getting involved in a war at all is a slippery slope when you're the worlds only superpower.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 24, 2025 12:29 PM (uCjyK)

23 Gosh, seems like President Trump sees Israel the same way I do. I support Israel but I certainly do not agree with everything they do.

Even the Bible calls them a stiff necked people.

Posted by: Doug Roberts at June 24, 2025 12:29 PM (qnifE)

24 I don't think we all know the sites are destroyed.

Agreed.

Trump is just an optometrist at heart, it's really up to Iran, if the continue to FA, Trump is more than happy make them FO good and hard.

I just can't see it.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 24, 2025 12:29 PM (Riz8t)

25 I don’t agree that Iran and Israel “don’t know what … they’re doing anymore”.

I think they both know exactly what they’re doing - they see this as an existential conflict.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at June 24, 2025 12:29 PM (Mxf84)

26 ICE arrested 11 Iranian nationals in 48 hours, including Mehran Makari Sahel in St. Paul, a former IRGC member with ties to Hezbollah.

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former IRGC member! He turned his life around !

Posted by: runner at June 24, 2025 12:30 PM (g47mK)

27 8 ‘ Trump does want to appease the Ron Paul pacifist bloc of MAGA’

Trump should be doing this. We are not far enough ahead of the game to be kissing off like minded people.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 24, 2025 12:27 PM (jbnUc)

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I think Trump just generally wants the fighting in the Middle East to stop, and he's trying to apply his commerce over warfare logic to this.

Will it work? I seem...doubtful.

Israel can make good with Egypt and Saudi Arabia. Can Iran make good with Israel the same way? Seems...far fetched as long as the Ayatollah and his regime are in place.

But Trump is right that regime change is messy. Toppling the Ayatollah from the outside will not be easily papered over.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 12:30 PM (GBKbO)

28 I think Israel has had enough of taking the high road and being kicked. I also think the level of anti-semitism we have seen on bold display is both disgusting and frightening. There must be a thought that the only country that really has Israel’s back is Israel. Where I struggle is the Iranians, the Persians, don’t want this. They are not the Palestinians who cause trauma and drama wherever they find themselves.

Posted by: Piper at June 24, 2025 12:30 PM (pZEOD)

29 NBC: ICE arrested 11 Iranian nationals in 48 hours, including Mehran Makari Sahel in St. Paul, a former IRGC member with ties to Hezbollah.
____

Ummm.. WTF?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 24, 2025 12:30 PM (Dv3i1)

30 Good afternoon Ace and everyone

Posted by: Skip at June 24, 2025 12:30 PM (+qU29)

31 As the kids say, let Trump cook. In the end the situation won't be worse, and will probably be better.

His biggest fuckup was various covid dealings and he was forced into that while surrounded by enemies in an election year with lots of unknowns.

This is voluntary and Trump usually handles the voluntary stuff well.

Posted by: ... at June 24, 2025 12:31 PM (wZXGx)

32 Love Trump, but his complete cluelessness about Iran, in that he is dealing with Islam and not civilized people is rather maddening.

I don't think he's clueless. He clearly understands from his other statements that the way to go is to make it impossible for the mullahs to suppress an uprising and then let nature take its course.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 24, 2025 12:31 PM (2ocoG)

33 And of course we have Medvedev's not very veiled threat to arm Iran with Russian nuclear weapons lingering in the background.

I couldn't care less what that lapdog says. If it's a serious threat, Putin will make it.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 24, 2025 12:31 PM (Riz8t)

34 Time to dust off the old standby: "quagmire."

Posted by: For gp, The Action IS The Juice at June 24, 2025 12:31 PM (t9lPv)

35 >>And of course we have Medvedev's not very veiled threat to arm Iran with Russian nuclear weapons lingering in the background.

That statement was made specifically to take advantage of the useful idiots, such as yourself.

Posted by: garrett at June 24, 2025 12:31 PM (MmNOR)

36 @19

>>What is he, black?

No, he's a NYC real estate developer, and in that game, you cannot be made to look ridiculous, same goes for Presidentin'

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 24, 2025 12:31 PM (XV/Pl)

37 Of course Iran broke the ceasefire. We all knew they were going to do it.

Posted by: Lying evil scum lie and do evil scummy things at June 24, 2025 12:31 PM (TbWk/)

38 25 I don’t agree that Iran and Israel “don’t know what … they’re doing anymore”.

I think they both know exactly what they’re doing - they see this as an existential conflict.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at June 24, 2025 12:29 PM (Mxf84)

Israel is trying to prevent a 20 megaton radioactive Zyklon B airburst over Tel Aviv.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 24, 2025 12:31 PM (x0n13)

39

I think we should suck their brains out with a straw, sell the widows and orphans and go into South American zinc...

Posted by: City Gent at June 24, 2025 12:31 PM (NMIbw)

40 Trump is just an optometrist at heart, it's really up to Iran, if the continue to FA, Trump is more than happy make them FO good and hard.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 24, 2025 12:28 PM (XV/Pl)

You know who else was an optometrist?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 24, 2025 12:31 PM (u9yM+)

41 15 I don't think we all know the sites are destroyed.
Posted by: toby928 at June 24, 2025 12:28 PM (jc0TO)

We don't, and we won't, and there's no way to truly verify that without boots on the ground. Which was the whole point of getting the US involved. Our Deep State backed Trump in to a corner (like they did with Putin vis a vis Ukraine). Trump is now apparently saying "nope, not falling for this trap." I hope he means that.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 24, 2025 12:32 PM (uCjyK)

42 36 @19

>>What is he, black?

No, he's a NYC real estate developer, and in that game, you cannot be made to look ridiculous, same goes for Presidentin'
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 24, 2025 12:31 PM (XV/Pl)

Jack WOltz is listening!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 24, 2025 12:32 PM (x0n13)

43 34 Time to dust off the old standby: "quagmire."
Posted by: For gp, The Action IS The Juice at June 24, 2025 12:31 PM (t9lPv)

And "Mission Accomplished!"

Posted by: Stateless.. 42% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 24, 2025 12:32 PM (jvJvP)

44 18 >> Iran violated the ceasefire a bit

Just the tip.
Posted by: m at June 24, 2025 12:28 PM (CQE5S)

If you mean targeting an apartment building and killing Israelis a bit... And Israel isn't blameless either. Is it just me or was this a weird way to start a ceasefire ? You have 6 hours.. Go at it til then ?

Posted by: It's me donna at June 24, 2025 12:32 PM (VE6XX)

45 But Trump is right that regime change is messy. Toppling the Ayatollah from the outside will not be easily papered over.

The IAF's been doing excellent work setting the table for the Iranians to make their own regime change. Hopefully they understand that Obama was an anomaly and actually go for it this time.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 24, 2025 12:32 PM (2ocoG)

46 11 I don't think Trump likes to be "disrespected." He said there was a cease-fire... in his mind that's all that need be said.

I'd let 'em fight it out.
Posted by: Martini Farmer
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Both the Iranians and Netanyahu were consulted before the cease fire announcement which is why the staggered cease fire times were announced.

Posted by: whig at June 24, 2025 12:32 PM (ctrM5)

47 But Trump does want to appease the Ron Paul pacifist bloc of MAGA, and he wants to honor his pledge to "end more wars than he starts."
=
I expect that will go as well as apologizing to the woke mob usually does.

Posted by: Methos at June 24, 2025 12:33 PM (Dnobf)

48 Yesterday we got reports that the Israelis had sent messages to the heads of the IRGC, telling them that they knew where they were, and if they didn't leave Iran in x hours, they were toast. I've not heard any more about that today.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 24, 2025 12:33 PM (Riz8t)

49 >> one rocket that didn't land, that was shot, perhaps by mistake, that didn't land

"perhaps by mistake" is a topic

Posted by: m at June 24, 2025 12:33 PM (CQE5S)

50 That statement was made specifically to take advantage of the useful idiots, such as yourself.
Posted by: garrett at June 24, 2025 12:31 PM (MmNOR)

Could be. But as Trump wisely pointed out -- it's a big deal to start throwing around "the N word". Especially from the country with (allegedly) the most nuclear weapons on the planet.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 24, 2025 12:33 PM (uCjyK)

51 @40

>>You know who else was an optometrist?

Rand Paul.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 24, 2025 12:33 PM (XV/Pl)

52 If you mean targeting an apartment building and killing Israelis a bit... And Israel isn't blameless either. Is it just me or was this a weird way to start a ceasefire ? You have 6 hours.. Go at it til then ?
Posted by: It's me donna at June 24, 2025 12:32 PM (VE6XX)

Very few ceasefires take effect immediately. That’s the final thrust of “all quiet on the western front.”

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at June 24, 2025 12:33 PM (Mxf84)

53
Where are all those "You Can't Hug A Child With Nuclear Arms" people now?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 24, 2025 12:33 PM (GEhCH)

54 45 The IAF's been doing excellent work setting the table for the Iranians to make their own regime change. Hopefully they understand that Obama was an anomaly and actually go for it this time.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 24, 2025 12:32 PM (2ocoG)

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It's up to Iran now.

And Israel has proven that it can strike deep into Iran to hurt Iranian military and internal police assets with impunity.

Fingers crossed.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 12:34 PM (GBKbO)

55 If you mean targeting an apartment building and killing Israelis a bit... And Israel isn't blameless either. Is it just me or was this a weird way to start a ceasefire ? You have 6 hours.. Go at it til then ?
Posted by: It's me donna at June 24, 2025 12:32 PM (VE6XX)

Yes I would like to know the reasoning for the staggered time requirements.

Posted by: polynikes at June 24, 2025 12:34 PM (VofaG)

56 The IAF's been doing excellent work setting the table for the Iranians to make their own regime change. Hopefully they understand that Obama was an anomaly and actually go for it this time.
____

Within the timeframe of Trump's presidency. If a Dem gets in afterward, the window is shut.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 24, 2025 12:34 PM (Dv3i1)

57 >> Trump was none happy happy

Ha ha! None two happy.

Posted by: m at June 24, 2025 12:34 PM (CQE5S)

58 Trump tears AOC a new one.

https://is.gd/qGpquA

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Well, This Is Another Fine Mess You've Gotten Me Into at June 24, 2025 12:34 PM (L/fGl)

59
I rather suspect that his "both sides" anger is an act. He knew damned well that the mullahs were going to break the cease-fire first. Tossing some anger towards Israel as well sets him up as the honest peacemaker when the mullahs finally capitulate.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 24, 2025 12:34 PM (y9nCu)

60 21 Trump is just an optometrist at heart,

He gives eye exams?
Posted by: Ian S. at June 24, 2025 12:29 PM (2ocoG)

A cockeyed optometrist! . . .

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 24, 2025 12:34 PM (x0n13)

61 Our Deep State backed Trump in to a corner (like they did with Putin vis a vis Ukraine).

Sigh.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 24, 2025 12:34 PM (Riz8t)

62 As far as letting Israel and Iran fight it out -- that is now complicated by the fact that the US is undeniably involved in this war, no?

Harry Paratestes
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The US has been involved all along, it's just that for the last 15 years it was helping Iran.

Posted by: ... at June 24, 2025 12:34 PM (wZXGx)

63 >>Could be. But as Trump wisely pointed out -- it's a big deal to start throwing around "the N word". Especially from the country with (allegedly) the most nuclear weapons on the planet.

He rescinded the statement and the Russians explicitly stated that 'No, this is not an option'.

But go ahead and continue to pretend that did not happen.

Posted by: garrett at June 24, 2025 12:35 PM (MmNOR)

64 Trump's AOC rant is hilarious!

End Wokeness
@EndWokeness
I strongly advise reading the entire rant until the end. It keeps getting better

https://tinyurl.com/bdeercn9

Posted by: redridinghood at June 24, 2025 12:35 PM (NpAcC)

65 You know who else was an optometrist?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Assad was actually an ophthalmologist.

As was Rand Paul.

Coincidence?

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at June 24, 2025 12:35 PM (w9Wax)

66 I guess President Trump is right on Iran and Israel, but certain he is right on the Communist News Network

Posted by: Skip at June 24, 2025 12:35 PM (+qU29)

67 eh, Trump's gonna Trump, and I voted for that, too.

I'm'a invoke the 168-hour Rule.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 24, 2025 12:35 PM (Z5NUn)

68 Very few ceasefires take effect immediately. That’s the final thrust of “all quiet on the western front.”
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at June 24, 2025 12:33 PM (Mxf84)

Yes but the time requirements were different for each side and staggered.

Posted by: polynikes at June 24, 2025 12:35 PM (VofaG)

69 I think Trump just generally wants the fighting in the Middle East to stop, and he's trying to apply his commerce over warfare logic to this.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 12:30 PM (GBKbO)

Same as in Ukraine.

If it "appease the Ron Paul pacifist bloc of MAGA . . . ," so be it. Their votes cancel out dem votes.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 24, 2025 12:35 PM (i24o9)

70 If you mean targeting an apartment building and killing Israelis a bit... And Israel isn't blameless either. Is it just me or was this a weird way to start a ceasefire ? You have 6 hours.. Go at it til then ?
Posted by: It's me donna at June 24, 2025 12:32 PM (VE6XX)

Cease-fires in big wars usually do have a bit of a delay built in, to allow the orders time to make it down the chain of command.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 24, 2025 12:35 PM (u9yM+)

71 Trust no one. Let them duke it out. Let the best man win.

Posted by: wth at June 24, 2025 12:36 PM (UjdFS)

72 If you mean targeting an apartment building and killing Israelis a bit... And Israel isn't blameless either. Is it just me or was this a weird way to start a ceasefire ? You have 6 hours.. Go at it til then ?
Posted by: It's me donna at June 24, 2025 12:32 PM (VE6XX)

I wasn't in the room, obviously, but I imagine it was some kind of compromise. Usually there's a deadline for a ceasefire. Like in WWI, bombings continued until the moment of the ceasefire. Which... is kind of fucked up when you think about it. Imagine being one of the soldiers who died after a ceasefire was declared, but before it went in to affect.

Anyways. The staggered times, I would guess, were because Israel wanted time to verify that Iran stopped shooting missiles, and needed time to get their assets / planes out of Iran / Iranian airspace. But that's just speculation on my part.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 24, 2025 12:36 PM (uCjyK)

73 Let's Get Ready To Rummmmmbbbbblllleeee!

Posted by: Michael Buffer at June 24, 2025 12:36 PM (HgFW6)

74 63 He rescinded the statement and the Russians explicitly stated that 'No, this is not an option'.

But go ahead and continue to pretend that did not happen.
Posted by: garrett at June 24, 2025 12:35 PM (MmNOR)

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I thought the original statement was along the lines of, "I totally know some nations who'd give Iran nukes. Totally."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 12:36 PM (GBKbO)

75 In war, truth is the first casualty.

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 24, 2025 12:36 PM (wVcYX)

76 The same thing happens to me when I try to broker a dispute in my household. You just end up in the middle all the time and taking collateral damage. Trump did his thing and took out the nuclear sites. Time to back away and let countries that want to fight do their thing.

Posted by: Mad Max in VA at June 24, 2025 12:36 PM (8iNlE)

77 Yes but the time requirements were different for each side and staggered.
Posted by: polynikes at June 24, 2025 12:35 PM (VofaG)

I thought the 12 hours until the ceasefire ended at the same time for both countries.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at June 24, 2025 12:36 PM (Mxf84)

78
Update: Jeb! checks in.

Hmm.

Alright, fiiiiiiiiiiiine. I'll clap.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 24, 2025 12:36 PM (iJfKG)

79 The US has been involved all along, it's just that for the last 15 years it was helping Iran.
Posted by: ... at June 24, 2025 12:34 PM (wZXGx)
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Pallets of cash and unfreezing Iranian assets helped fund the Iranian nuclear program and also allowed Iran to spend money exporting terrorism.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 24, 2025 12:36 PM (tT6L1)

80 Wut? Jeb approves? I might have to go back and think about how it could be possible to be on the same side of an issue as the Jebster.

In all fairness I wasn't super-excited about dropping bombs on Tehran (while I guess Jeb is) but I trust PDJT, so maybe I still don't really agree with Jeb and I'm still OK...

But that was a close call.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 24, 2025 12:36 PM (9M6+C)

81 78
Update: Jeb! checks in.

Hmm.

Alright, fiiiiiiiiiiiine. I'll clap.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 24, 2025 12:36 PM (iJfKG)

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Mostly just to see if he got his belt through all the belt loops this time.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 12:37 PM (GBKbO)

82 The IAF's been doing excellent work setting the table for the Iranians to make their own regime change. Hopefully they understand that Obama was an anomaly and actually go for it this time.

That would be the best outcome. Of course - we'll fuck that up. Because regime change there, and justice, will mean the winners putting the losers up against quite a few walls.

The Western World won't tolerate that. Hence the problem.

Posted by: Doug Roberts at June 24, 2025 12:37 PM (qnifE)

83 It does no good to Israel to take hits from Iran and do nothing. War is war, and if one side wants to keep fighting, the other side is not obliged to stand there and take it. Iran started it with their aggressive behavior and proxy war, so let the mullahs suffer. This is FAFO, plain and simple.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 24, 2025 12:37 PM (ynpvh)

84 27
‘ But Trump is right that regime change is messy. Toppling the Ayatollah from the outside will not be easily papered over.’

That’s putting it mildly. The Persians are still butthurt over Mossadeq. I don’t know what new regime will come but it will have a big legitimacy problem.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 24, 2025 12:37 PM (jbnUc)

85 Meanwhile: The DHS is rounding up Iranian illegals, at least until a federal judge orders them to all be set free to plant their bombs and execute their targets.

Can we re-open Granada, Heart Mountain... just until we can figure out what's going on?

Posted by: Oglebay at June 24, 2025 12:37 PM (MMp6W)

86 Der Krieg ist vorb...

Posted by: 10:59 11/11/1918 at June 24, 2025 12:37 PM (jc0TO)

87 I rather suspect that his "both sides" anger is an act. He knew damned well that the mullahs were going to break the cease-fire first. Tossing some anger towards Israel as well sets him up as the honest peacemaker when the mullahs finally capitulate.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 24, 2025 12:34 PM (y9nCu)

Agreed. Just another facet of the "good cop, bad cop" routine.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 24, 2025 12:38 PM (u9yM+)

88 84 27
‘ But Trump is right that regime change is messy. Toppling the Ayatollah from the outside will not be easily papered over.’

That’s putting it mildly. The Persians are still butthurt over Mossadeq. I don’t know what new regime will come but it will have a big legitimacy problem.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 24, 2025 12:37 PM (jbnUc)

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Brutal repression with a secular coating for 20 years is probably the best case scenario.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 12:38 PM (GBKbO)

89 "I say that to CNN because I watch it. I have no choice. I got to watch that garbage.
It's all garbage."

That's my president!

Posted by: m at June 24, 2025 12:38 PM (CQE5S)

90 rather suspect that his "both sides" anger is an act. He knew damned well that the mullahs were going to break the cease-fire first. Tossing some anger towards Israel as well sets him up as the honest peacemaker when the mullahs finally capitulate.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 24, 2025 12:34 PM (y9nCu)

I see his anger at Israel because he expected them to do what we did with Doha and not respond. The Iranians fucked up and actually hit something.

Posted by: polynikes at June 24, 2025 12:38 PM (VofaG)

91 NATO better watch out... Trump is already pissed....

Posted by: It's me donna at June 24, 2025 12:38 PM (VE6XX)

92 Yes I would like to know the reasoning for the staggered time requirements.
Posted by: polynikes at June 24, 2025 12:34 PM (VofaG)

Probably because the Iranians are not seen as being capable of making and keeping a truce without some encouragement, and Israel is already seen as the "bad guy" who breaks all those agreements so they needed some time to apply that encouragement

Posted by: Kindltot at June 24, 2025 12:38 PM (D7oie)

93 If you mean targeting an apartment building and killing Israelis a bit... And Israel isn't blameless either. Is it just me or was this a weird way to start a ceasefire ? You have 6 hours.. Go at it til then ?
Posted by: It's me donna
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Result of both sides not trusting the other and trying to get the upper hand. I suspect that Israel thought the Iranians (correctly in hindsight) would try to sneak in some punches even after the deadline a bit just to show their people something. Israel then could and did retaliate by apparently using N+1 retaliation.

Part of which, congressional testimony yesterday indicated that US Navy stores of antimissiles were being used at a rate faster than resupply. I would imagine that Israel is probably close to the same problem.

Modern warfare (not police actions against terrorists) uses up sophisticated and slow to produce weapons at unsustainable rates which apparently require stoppages in order to resupply.

Building a lot for a rainy day may not work either as weapon technology is accelerating in counter measures rapidly blunting new weaponry. So a huge stockpile of obsolete missiles/drones, etc may not be the answer either.

Posted by: whig at June 24, 2025 12:38 PM (ctrM5)

94 You know who else was an optometrist?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Assad was actually an ophthalmologist.

As was Rand Paul.

Coincidence?

I can never remember the difference between an optometrist, an optician, and an opthalmologist.

Posted by: Everyone at June 24, 2025 12:38 PM (Riz8t)

95 Now it gets weird.

Posted by: eleven at June 24, 2025 12:39 PM (fV+MH)

96 Trump is prone to outbursts when things do not go exactly as he planned. Like the time when Russia/Ukraine sort of had a shaky ceasefire, that was not, and Trump said that Putin is totally crazy ! or words similar.

Posted by: runner at June 24, 2025 12:39 PM (g47mK)

97 The US has been involved all along, it's just that for the last 15 years it was helping Iran.
Posted by: ... at June 24, 2025 12:34 PM (wZXGx)

Yes, we do make a habit of funding both sides in most wars.

First we arm the "Free Syrian Army" / ISIS then we attack them. Same with the mujahedeen in Afghanistan. Indirectly, same thing going on with Russia and Ukraine.

This is what happens when you let a bunch of nepo baby mid-wits with conflicting goals and ways to graft money from the US treasury run America's foreign policy out of Foggy Bottom and Langley.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 24, 2025 12:39 PM (uCjyK)

98 Having solved all NYC's other problems . . .

New York City Socialist Mayoral Hopeful Would Go “All-In” on Transing the Kids to the Tune of $65 Million

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Well, This Is Another Fine Mess You've Gotten Me Into at June 24, 2025 12:39 PM (L/fGl)

99 > NBC: ICE arrested 11 Iranian nationals in 48 hours, including Mehran Makari Sahel in St. Paul, a former IRGC member with ties to Hezbollah.
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St. Paul, MN. What could there be in Saint Paul, MN that would draw Sahel, an IRGC member with ties to Hezbollah there?

Weird.

/s

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 24, 2025 12:39 PM (Q4IgG)

100 I went over to Althouse and she's talking about the NYC election. Her advice? Don't vote because its too hot and both leaders suck.

Too bad as a Dem if you do that you might have a ballot cast in your name anyway

Posted by: 18-1 at June 24, 2025 12:39 PM (t0Rmr)

101 >>Yes I would like to know the reasoning for the staggered time requirements.

Israel is operating from forward bases.

Iran is not.

Posted by: garrett at June 24, 2025 12:40 PM (MmNOR)

102 98 Having solved all NYC's other problems . . .

New York City Socialist Mayoral Hopeful Would Go “All-In” on Transing the Kids to the Tune of $65 Million
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Well, This Is Another Fine Mess You've Gotten Me Into at June 24, 2025 12:39 PM (L/fGl)

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I can't wait for him to win this primary and the establishment Boomers in the NY Democrat machine to freak out.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 12:40 PM (GBKbO)

103 Which... is kind of fucked up when you think about it. Imagine being one of the soldiers who died after a ceasefire was declared, but before it went in to affect.

Lol. Lolololol.

Posted by: The Battle of New Orleans at June 24, 2025 12:40 PM (1Idb6)

104 I thought the original statement was along the lines of, "I totally know some nations who'd give Iran nukes. Totally."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 12:36 PM (GBKbO)

Yes, but the French have always been our enemy

Posted by: Kindltot at June 24, 2025 12:40 PM (D7oie)

105 100 I went over to Althouse and she's talking about the NYC election. Her advice? Don't vote because its too hot and both leaders suck.

Too bad as a Dem if you do that you might have a ballot cast in your name anyway
Posted by: 18-1 at June 24, 2025 12:39 PM (t0Rmr)

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Lord she's stupid.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 12:40 PM (GBKbO)

106 That’s putting it mildly. The Persians are still butthurt over Mossadeq. I don’t know what new regime will come but it will have a big legitimacy problem.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 24, 2025 12:37 PM (jbnUc)

If the CIA had not toppled Mossadeq, either the Soviets or the mullahs would have done so eventually.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 24, 2025 12:40 PM (u9yM+)

107 2 Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Posted by: H at June 24, 2025 12:24 PM (2gjbv)

Usually--or always?--ending with an exclamation point!

Thank you for your attention to this matter!

Posted by: m at June 24, 2025 12:40 PM (CQE5S)

108 Pediatricians and pediatrists are basically the same thing right?

Posted by: eleven at June 24, 2025 12:40 PM (fV+MH)

109 He rescinded the statement and the Russians explicitly stated that 'No, this is not an option'.

But go ahead and continue to pretend that did not happen.
Posted by: garrett at June 24, 2025 12:35 PM (MmNOR)

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I thought the original statement was along the lines of, "I totally know some nations who'd give Iran nukes. Totally."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 12:36 PM (GBKbO)

he did. there is a reason Medvedev is no longer in government. but he does do a lot of Twitter/Telegram stuff !

Posted by: runner at June 24, 2025 12:41 PM (g47mK)

110 So a huge stockpile of obsolete missiles/drones, etc may not be the answer either.

*sobs*

Posted by: Sherman Tanks at June 24, 2025 12:41 PM (w9Wax)

111 Assuming PDT is 100% wrong about everything, which he is not, who else are we going to get that pisses off the left as much as he does?

Go PDT!!

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2025 12:41 PM (pQ7Rb)

112 He thinks he's going to make even the mullahs fake being a Yasser Arafat phony. No one faked sincerity better than he did.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 24, 2025 12:29 PM (x0n13)

Martyrs by the millions! And boys, but mostly martyrs!

Posted by: Zombie Yasser at June 24, 2025 12:41 PM (8hxDK)

113 Afternoon Ace. A JEB!™ sighting . What angle is he playing? Is he thinking about 2028? A senatorial run? Tune in next time for the answer to these questions on Days of our Rinos

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 24, 2025 12:42 PM (pwtJC)

114 64 Trump's AOC rant is hilarious!

End Wokeness
@EndWokeness
I strongly advise reading the entire rant until the end. It keeps getting better

https://tinyurl.com/bdeercn9
Posted by: redridinghood at June 24, 2025 12:35 PM (NpAcC)
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Heh.

Posted by: WisRich at June 24, 2025 12:42 PM (G0vdT)

115 10 It's not like he was going to get a Nobel anyway.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 24, 2025 12:27 PM (GEhCH)

They're garbage.

Posted by: m at June 24, 2025 12:42 PM (CQE5S)

116 Assuming PDT is 100% wrong about everything, which he is not, who else are we going to get that pisses off the left as much as he does?

Go PDT!!
Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2025 12:41 PM (pQ7Rb)
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Heh. This mid day posting by Weaselsan gunsei is going to take a bit of getting used to.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 24, 2025 12:42 PM (tT6L1)

117 Jeb who???

Posted by: dantesed at June 24, 2025 12:43 PM (Oy/m2)

118 Pediatricians and pediatrists are basically the same thing right?
Posted by: eleven at June 24, 2025 12:40 PM (fV+MH)

and podiatrists. One big club.

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 24, 2025 12:43 PM (wVcYX)

119 Toppling the regime must at least start with those inside regime (that were betrayed by Obama).

But if Israel was given good intel by the Green Party (I think that was the main opposition last time) then it would sure help the revolution ... if some missiles happened to wipe out bunches of the regime on a consistent basis.

Or maybe the regime is already bugging out, as rumors have said. No new strikes on US targets, afaik.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 24, 2025 12:43 PM (vbXSk)

120 Israel is operating from forward bases.

Iran is not.

Posted by: garrett at June 24, 2025 12:40 PM (MmNOR)

It's that like the ladies tee

Posted by: ... at June 24, 2025 12:43 PM (wZXGx)

121 115 10 It's not like he was going to get a Nobel anyway.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 24, 2025 12:27 PM (GEhCH)

They'll probably give it to the Ayatollah...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 24, 2025 12:43 PM (VE6XX)

122 1)...to the pearl clutchers who are alarmed by our President saying the F word on camera...good. I say it in my head all of the time. He's got the right to be mad and I pity anyone in the Netherlands who messes with him at NATO today. I am sure he is very tired, has not slept well, and is ready to gut Macron or any weenie like a deer. He alone is trying to essentially save the world from crazy barbarians with nukes.

2) I have not thought of Jeb since his father's funeral, when he shot a glare at President Trump for whatever note was in the program. He and Laura nearly had fits, while GWB stood there. I would love to know, still, what that note said.

For Jeb to speak in favor of Trump says a lot...and I will give him credit for being a good governor of Florida.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 24, 2025 12:43 PM (6PCLE)

123 Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 24, 2025 12:42 PM (tT6L1)
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Ha! For me too!

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2025 12:43 PM (pQ7Rb)

124 121 115 10 It's not like he was going to get a Nobel anyway.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 24, 2025 12:27 PM (GEhCH)

They'll probably give it to the Ayatollah...
Posted by: It's me donna at June 24, 2025 12:43 PM (VE6XX)

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Some girl in a third world country who built a well, or something.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 12:43 PM (GBKbO)

125 I thought the original statement was along the lines of, "I totally know some nations who'd give Iran nukes. Totally."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 12:36 PM (GBKbO)

He said "A number of countries are ready to directly supply Iran with their nuclear weapons"

Which I suppose could mean Pakistan or (allegedly) KSA. He later said: "The New START treaty, which I once signed with a US president, is still in force for now. The question is: what comes next?" which some viewed as him walking back his earlier comment.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 24, 2025 12:44 PM (uCjyK)

126 I can never remember the difference between an optometrist, an optician, and an opthalmologist.
Posted by: Everyone at June 24, 2025 12:38 PM (Riz8t)

Optometrists have a limited scope of practice for routine eye and vision care, can prescribe corrective lenses, etc. Ophthalmologists are actual eye doctors who can treat more complex eye diseases and perform eye surgery. Optometrists make and fit eyeglasses, basically.

Posted by: Then more you know at June 24, 2025 12:44 PM (TbWk/)

127 Plus the beatdown of AOC, C-ratchett and Brotherfucker.

Double LOLs 'cause him dropping the f-bomb will now goad the dullards of the left to "moor authenticity than authentic!" and buy F-bomb for use in bulk at the Retard Factory.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 24, 2025 12:44 PM (2uKh/)

128 TBH I am kind of hoping the socialist jihadi wins in NYC. Let the lefty LIVs there have it good and hard.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 24, 2025 12:44 PM (t0Rmr)

129 Murkowski indicated she would jump ship to the Democrats. Just rip the whole mask off right now bitch . Why wait?

Posted by: polynikes at June 24, 2025 12:44 PM (VofaG)

130 1)...to the pearl clutchers who are alarmed by our President saying the F word on camera...good.

Ya know, it's possible to prefer a bit more decorum in our leaders without us being pearl clutchers. But you do you.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 24, 2025 12:45 PM (Riz8t)

131 and podiatrists. One big club.
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 24, 2025 12:43 PM (wVcYX)

Sí, se poden

Posted by: Kindltot at June 24, 2025 12:45 PM (D7oie)

132 Some girl in a third world country who built a well, or something.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 12:43 PM (GBKbO)

Give it to Lassie for rescuing the 12th imam.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 24, 2025 12:45 PM (u9yM+)

133 63 >>Could be. But as Trump wisely pointed out -- it's a big deal to start throwing around "the N word". Especially from the country with (allegedly) the most nuclear weapons on the planet.

He rescinded the statement and the Russians explicitly stated that 'No, this is not an option'.

But go ahead and continue to pretend that did not happen.
Posted by: garrett
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I think Medvedev reacted emotionally rather than logically which is why Putin jerked his chain.

If Russia gives Israel's arch enemy nukes, then Israel would be in such a place to provide them to the equally nutty Ukrainians.

Israel and Russia, in a way, share the same problem--the core of their country's polity and society are in a few cities susceptible to being nuked. Russia without Moscow and St. Petersburg would be a far different country as would be Israel without Tel Aviv and perhaps Haifa.

Posted by: whig at June 24, 2025 12:45 PM (ctrM5)

134
[looks around for bottle of Tums]

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 24, 2025 12:45 PM (XeU6L)

135 34 Time to dust off the old standby: "quagmire."
Posted by: For gp, The Action IS The Juice at June 24, 2025 12:31 PM (t9lPv)

I always thought it would be great to win a Nobel Peace Prize and turn it into a urinal.

Posted by: Stateless.. 42% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 24, 2025 12:46 PM (jvJvP)

136 Journalists Strategize to Expose the "Extremism" on the Right

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A dog returns to its vomit, and a sow that is washed goes back to her wallowing in the mud.’

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Well, This Is Another Fine Mess You've Gotten Me Into at June 24, 2025 12:46 PM (L/fGl)

137 Murkowski indicated she would jump ship to the Democrats. Just rip the whole mask off right now bitch . Why wait?

If Murk goes D she might find there is someone else ahead of her in the pecking order.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 24, 2025 12:46 PM (t0Rmr)

138 Opticians make glasses. Not optometrists

Posted by: Correction at June 24, 2025 12:46 PM (TbWk/)

139 Pediatricians and pediatrists are basically the same thing right?
Posted by: eleven at June 24, 2025 12:40 PM (fV+MH)

and podiatrists. One big club.

Is that a club foot joke?

Posted by: Archimedes at June 24, 2025 12:46 PM (Riz8t)

140 124 121 115 10 It's not like he was going to get a Nobel anyway.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 24, 2025 12:27 PM (GEhCH)

They'll probably give it to the Ayatollah...
Posted by: It's me donna at June 24, 2025 12:43 PM (VE6XX)

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Some girl in a third world country who built a well, or something.

a well built girl > girl built a well

Posted by: anachronda at June 24, 2025 12:46 PM (sGtp+)

141 136 Journalists Strategize to Expose the "Extremism" on the Right

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A dog returns to its vomit, and a sow that is washed goes back to her wallowing in the mud.’
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Well, This Is Another Fine Mess You've Gotten Me Into at June 24, 2025 12:46 PM (L/fGl)

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"I know! We'll call the right racist and extremist! That'll stop them!"
-journalist in fucking 2025

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 12:46 PM (GBKbO)

142 98 Having solved all NYC's other problems . . .

New York City Socialist Mayoral Hopeful Would Go “All-In” on Transing the Kids to the Tune of $65 Million
____

Add that to govt. grocery stores, homeless shelters in subway stations (although, kind of is that way now), police removed from high crime areas. This guy is hitting all the right policy choices for NYC. I hope he wins and the insane retards who make up 2/3rds of NY voters (includes ballot harvesting) will get what they deserve. Still, NYC used to be a great part of the USA and it would be nice to have them back. But sometimes a lost cause is just a lost cause.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 24, 2025 12:46 PM (Dv3i1)

143 Love Trump's explosion at CNN and MSDNC, but mostly CNN. The network is on its last legs but refuses to fix itself. Maybe after the Trump blast it will change out it's staff and try to be a little less nutso.

Ah, who am I kidding. Not going to happen.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 24, 2025 12:47 PM (kL7AM)

144 Murk will go D if offered the proper incentives.

The negotiations are probably ongoing as we speak.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 24, 2025 12:47 PM (tT6L1)

145 Pediatricians and pediatrists are basically the same thing right?

Posted by: eleven

No, it's podiatrists. Or pederasts.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 24, 2025 12:47 PM (lTGtQ)

146 Just tell Murk that Mitch will supply her with cocaine if she stays Republican.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 24, 2025 12:47 PM (pwtJC)

147 Trump's UnCertainty Principle

It's impossible to know, predict or appreciate the direction and velocity of the next Trumpism precisely. Enjoying it is our best option.

Posted by: DaveA at June 24, 2025 12:47 PM (FhXTo)

148 129 Murkowski indicated she would jump ship to the Democrats. Just rip the whole mask off right now bitch . Why wait?
Posted by: polynikes at June 24, 2025

It was slimier than that- she never said she would switch parties. She said she would vote with them. Just own it! Except that makes it hard to be elected in AK.

Posted by: Piper at June 24, 2025 12:47 PM (pZEOD)

149 Now do ocularist....

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at June 24, 2025 12:47 PM (w9Wax)

150 A spider and a scorpion in a jar aren't going to stop fighting when you ask them to stop.

Posted by: The Camel Spider Isn't A Spider, Discuss at June 24, 2025 12:47 PM (7Q0e+)

151 135 I always thought it would be great to win a Nobel Peace Prize and turn it into a urinal.

hmmm.... *scribbles note* nobel prize urinal cakes

Posted by: anachronda at June 24, 2025 12:47 PM (sGtp+)

152 129 Murkowski indicated she would jump ship to the Democrats. Just rip the whole mask off right now bitch . Why wait?
Posted by: polynikes
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Loss of committee chairmanships, grafting, and a possible loss due to it in 2028. Opponents to the rank ordered system are making another go to end it in 2026. Murcow's hubris just gave repeal a few more votes for that is my guess.

Posted by: whig at June 24, 2025 12:47 PM (ctrM5)

153 he did. there is a reason Medvedev is no longer in government. but he does do a lot of Twitter/Telegram stuff !
Posted by: runner at June 24, 2025 12:41 PM (g47mK)

Not only is he definitely still in government, he's the Deputy Chairman of the Security Council of Russia, which puts him in charge of Russia nuclear arsenal. (Putin is the Chairman, as President of the country. Medvedev runs it day to day.)

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 24, 2025 12:47 PM (uCjyK)

154 144 Murk will go D if offered the proper incentives.

The negotiations are probably ongoing as we speak.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 24, 2025 12:47 PM (tT6L1)

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May she go the way of Arlen Specter.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 12:47 PM (GBKbO)

155 Murkowski indicated she would jump ship to the Democrats. Just rip the whole mask off right now bitch . Why wait?

If Murk goes D she might find there is someone else ahead of her in the pecking order.

I thought she was talking about going Independent. Regardless, she won't then be able to run as a Republican. Good riddance.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 24, 2025 12:47 PM (Riz8t)

156 @137

>>If Murk goes D she might find there is someone else ahead of her in the pecking order.

RCV was installed in Alaska so that Murkowski can maintain her seat for as long as she likes or the powers that control the levers in Alaska want her replaced.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 24, 2025 12:47 PM (XV/Pl)

157 Journalists Strategize to Expose the "Extremism" on the Right

These crazy right wingers opposing cutting the balls off of kids, giving their whole pay checks to illegals, and taking poison shots.

NEWS AT 11!

Posted by: The FNM at June 24, 2025 12:47 PM (t0Rmr)

158 149 Now do ocularist....

ocularity! ocularity!

Posted by: father mulcahey at June 24, 2025 12:48 PM (sGtp+)

159 The Paul Wing of the party is about as significant as Michelle Fields' right sleeve.

Posted by: ... at June 24, 2025 12:48 PM (wZXGx)

160 137 Murkowski indicated she would jump ship to the Democrats. Just rip the whole mask off right now bitch . Why wait

We should trade. I kind of like Fetterman better. He's at least reasonable sometimes.

Posted by: Stateless.. 42% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 24, 2025 12:48 PM (jvJvP)

161 51 "Ophthalmologist" - he graduated from medical school, unlike an optometrist(college grad)/

Posted by: caf at June 24, 2025 12:48 PM (/+mVZ)

162 RCV was installed in Alaska so that Murkowski can maintain her seat for as long as she likes or the powers that control the levers in Alaska want her replaced.

Yes, but if she goes D it risks all that...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 24, 2025 12:48 PM (t0Rmr)

163 152 129 Murkowski indicated she would jump ship to the Democrats. Just rip the whole mask off right now bitch . Why wait?
Posted by: polynikes
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Loss of committee chairmanships, grafting, and a possible loss due to it in 2028. Opponents to the rank ordered system are making another go to end it in 2026. Murcow's hubris just gave repeal a few more votes for that is my guess.
Posted by: whig at June 24, 2025 12:47 PM (ctrM5)

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Or she knows she's toast and she might as well go out the way she actually is.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 12:48 PM (GBKbO)

164 146 Just tell Murk that Mitch will supply her with cocaine if she stays Republican.
Posted by: Smell the Glove
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Mitch is knackered and his recent silence means I think his medical problems are accelerating.

Posted by: whig at June 24, 2025 12:48 PM (ctrM5)

165 Ya know, it's possible to prefer a bit more decorum in our leaders without us being pearl clutchers. But you do you.

When these hard asses with better manners show up ? Then I'll listen. Until then ? I'll take the vulgar fucks that have the benefit of actually being right.

Function over form. Substance over style.

Posted by: Doug Roberts at June 24, 2025 12:48 PM (qnifE)

166 You know who else was an optometrist?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 24, 2025 12:31 PM (u9yM+)

Me.

Posted by: Ricky out at the Sunnyvale TP at June 24, 2025 12:49 PM (8hxDK)

167 155 I thought she was talking about going Independent. Regardless, she won't then be able to run as a Republican. Good riddance.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 24, 2025 12:47 PM (Riz8t)

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Like Bernie and Angus King.

I swear, AK, I know you love your government payments and stuff, but Murkowski really sucks.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 12:49 PM (GBKbO)

168 We should trade. I kind of like Fetterman better. He's at least reasonable sometimes.

Fetterman's principles:

1) What is good for Philly is good for America
2) FIRE BAD

Posted by: 18-1 at June 24, 2025 12:49 PM (t0Rmr)

169 This is what Trump wants. Peace.

>>@EYakoby

>>BREAKING: Lebanon and Syria will reportedly soon join the Abraham Accords.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 24, 2025 12:49 PM (viF8m)

170 You know who else was an optometrist?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Assad was actually an ophthalmologist.

As was Rand Paul.

Coincidence?

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at June 24, 2025 12:35 PM (w9Wax)

You know who else was NOT an optometrist?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 24, 2025 12:49 PM (i24o9)

171 Round up all Iranian immigrants. They cannot be trusted. Islam is not a religion of peace as the imminent and wise JJ Sefton points out.

Trump needs to let Israel finish its business. No ceasefire.

Posted by: Diabeetus at June 24, 2025 12:49 PM (SawFp)

172 163 152 129 Murkowski indicated she would jump ship to the Democrats. Just rip the whole mask off right now bitch . Why wait?
Posted by: polynike

She said she would go I and caucus with the Dems ala Bernie..

Posted by: It's me donna at June 24, 2025 12:49 PM (VE6XX)

173 But as Trump wisely pointed out -- it's a big deal to start throwing around "the N word".

-
High school teacher fired for reading a passage from To Kill a Mockingbird containing the forbidden word.

https://is.gd/rCYjYt

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Well, This Is Another Fine Mess You've Gotten Me Into at June 24, 2025 12:49 PM (L/fGl)

174 Gosh, seems like President Trump sees Israel the same way I do. I support Israel but I certainly do not agree with everything they do.

Even the Bible calls them a stiff necked people.
Posted by: Doug Roberts at June 24, 2025 12:29 PM (qnifE)

God calls them a stiff necked people.
We report. You decide.

Posted by: The Old Testament at June 24, 2025 12:49 PM (FCbAQ)

175 I think Medvedev reacted emotionally rather than logically which is why Putin jerked his chain.

Posted by: whig at June 24, 2025 12:45 PM (ctrM5)

I tend to agree that it was not a serious proposal, but when someone in his position of power says something like that, our ears should perk up a bit.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 24, 2025 12:49 PM (uCjyK)

176 Now do ocularist....
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at June 24, 2025 12:47 PM (w9Wax)

They revere and worship the One True Eye, perfectly spherical and all-seeing.

Posted by: My eyes! at June 24, 2025 12:50 PM (TbWk/)

177 168 We should trade. I kind of like Fetterman better. He's at least reasonable sometimes.

Fetterman's principles:

1) What is good for Philly is good for America
2) FIRE BAD
Posted by: 18-1 at June 24, 2025 12:49 PM (t0Rmr)

=========

Fetterman still thinks open borders are good, trannies are being erased, and that you shouldn't have guns.

He just wishes the party was less crazy about it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 12:50 PM (GBKbO)

178 Or she knows she's toast and she might as well go out the way she actually is.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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But as she and her father were both avid grafters, I think this was more an opening bid to be bought off than serious at this point.

After the 2026 midterms, if the Dems take the Senate or if it is 50-50, then I think she would do a Jim Jeffords.

Posted by: whig at June 24, 2025 12:50 PM (ctrM5)

179 @162

>>Yes, but if she goes D it risks all that...

What letter she has by her name is irrelevant at this point, if the Alaskan Deep State want her in that seat she will be in that seat.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 24, 2025 12:50 PM (XV/Pl)

180 Manchin threatened to jump ship. Until he retired. Gave him 15 minutes.

Posted by: runner at June 24, 2025 12:50 PM (g47mK)

181 169 This is what Trump wants. Peace.

>>@EYakoby

>>BREAKING: Lebanon and Syria will reportedly soon join the Abraham Accords.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 24, 2025 12:49 PM (viF8m)

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Like...real Lebanon (Hezbollah) or fake Lebanon?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 12:50 PM (GBKbO)

182 >>I tend to agree that it was not a serious proposal, but when someone in his position of power says something like that, our ears should perk up a bit.

Or, you can immediately become the Tool they seek to make of you.

You chose poorly.

Posted by: garrett at June 24, 2025 12:51 PM (MmNOR)

183 I'm near slighted on the ceasefire. Hope it works for the Middle East.

Posted by: dantesed at June 24, 2025 12:51 PM (Oy/m2)

184 Trump got played by all sides, especially his supposed BFF Bibi. Experience matters, folks. Hope voters remember that next time around.

The president of the U.S. is such a fool nobody pays attention to him. Of course the rest of the world is getting restless.

I guess Israel and Iran didn't get the memo that they agreed to a ceasefire. Idiot is finding out lying on the world stage is not near as easy to get away with as lying to MAGA supporters.

Let's face it, saying fuck doesn't rise to the crime of stuttering or a tan suit.

TACO Man is 100% beta. Has he given up being Putin's puppet only to become Bibi's puppet?

Trump doesn't know what the fuck he is doing. Never has. His domestic policies are a disaster. His foreign policies are a disaster. His business practices were disasters. And we are stuck with this for 3 and half more years. We'll all be in soup lines by then.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 24, 2025 12:51 PM (JCZqz)

185 Is the Brazilian chick still in the Volcano?

Posted by: pudinhead at June 24, 2025 12:51 PM (FmapG)

186 High school teacher fired for reading a passage from To Kill a Mockingbird containing the forbidden word.

Lambada?

Posted by: eet eez forbeeden! at June 24, 2025 12:51 PM (TbWk/)

187 >>BREAKING: Lebanon and Syria will reportedly soon join the Abraham Accords.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 24, 2025 12:49 PM

Holy Cow.

Posted by: toby928 at June 24, 2025 12:51 PM (jc0TO)

188 NBC: ICE arrested 11 Iranian nationals in 48 hours, including Mehran Makari Sahel in St. Paul, a former IRGC member with ties to Hezbollah.
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ICE arrested an Iranian in Alabama who they say is a sniper. He had his IRGC ID card on him.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at June 24, 2025 12:51 PM (paSBy)

189 178 But as she and her father were both avid grafters, I think this was more an opening bid to be bought off than serious at this point.

After the 2026 midterms, if the Dems take the Senate or if it is 50-50, then I think she would do a Jim Jeffords.
Posted by: whig at June 24, 2025 12:50 PM (ctrM5)

=======

Worst case scenario in the Senate is probably 53-47...status quo.

And everyone in DC knows it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 12:51 PM (GBKbO)

190 24 Trump is just an optometrist at heart, it's really up to Iran, if the continue to FA, Trump is more than happy make them FO good and hard.
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I just can't see it.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 24, 2025 12:29 PM (Riz8t)

; )

Posted by: m at June 24, 2025 12:51 PM (CQE5S)

191 176 Now do ocularist....
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at June 24, 2025 12:47 PM (w9Wax)

They revere and worship the One True Eye, perfectly spherical and all-seeing.

I'm a panopticon. I spend lots of time looking at cookware.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 24, 2025 12:51 PM (Riz8t)

192 186 High school teacher fired for reading a passage from To Kill a Mockingbird containing the forbidden word.

Lambada?
Posted by: eet eez forbeeden! at June 24, 2025 12:51 PM (TbWk/)

========

No, the other l-word.

Lesbians?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 12:52 PM (GBKbO)

193 Trump doesn't know what the fuck he is doing. Never has. His domestic policies are a disaster. His foreign policies are a disaster. His business practices were disasters. And we are stuck with this for 3 and half more years. We'll all be in soup lines by then.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 24, 2025 12:51 PM (JCZqz)

LOL... Must be miserable to be them...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 24, 2025 12:52 PM (VE6XX)

194 Ok, when did we start the countdown to Abraham Accords +1 (Persia) ?

Posted by: runner at June 24, 2025 12:52 PM (g47mK)

195 I tend to agree that it was not a serious proposal, but when someone in his position of power says something like that, our ears should perk up a bit.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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Dunno, could be stray voltage or something else. Politics in a semi authoritarian state resemble those of royal courts. There is a clear top dog but the couriers are in a constant struggle to beat out rivals for power under the king.

Posted by: whig at June 24, 2025 12:52 PM (ctrM5)

196 Or, you can immediately become the Tool they seek to make of you.

You chose poorly.
Posted by: garrett at June 24, 2025 12:51 PM (MmNOR)

Weren't you just saying to me "when a country says Death to America, we should take them at their word" like... yesterday?

But when a country threatens to give nukes to another country, only a tool should take it seriously?

I'm just trying to figure out the rules here.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 24, 2025 12:52 PM (uCjyK)

197 It is somewhat funny that in a negotiation to end a war that has killed likely hundreds of thousands of people the media fixation is on one of the guys saying a bad word.

Bombs and bullets might break my bones
And let's not even get into drones
But saying THAT bad word?
Let that not be heard!!!

Posted by: 18-1 at June 24, 2025 12:52 PM (t0Rmr)

198 187 >>BREAKING: Lebanon and Syria will reportedly soon join the Abraham Accords.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 24, 2025 12:49 PM

Holy Cow.
Posted by: toby928 at June 24, 2025 12:51 PM (jc0TO)

That's India.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 24, 2025 12:53 PM (EvUVd)

199 187 >>BREAKING: Lebanon and Syria will reportedly soon join the Abraham Accords.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 24, 2025 12:49 PM

Holy Cow.

You mean a Papal Bull?

Posted by: Archimedes at June 24, 2025 12:53 PM (Riz8t)

200 >> His domestic policies are a disaster

The Price of Eggs!

Posted by: garrett at June 24, 2025 12:53 PM (MmNOR)

201 I propose we send Greta Thunberg to Tehran.

... and while she's there, maybe she can help broker a peace deal I guess.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 24, 2025 12:53 PM (B9Prs)

202 I think Trump is using Israel to get what he wants for America. Thus the “ceasefire”.

I’m 100% onboard for using Israel for the betterment of America. It’d be great if it was mutually beneficial. But if not, I’d much rather America be the beneficiary of the relationship.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 24, 2025 12:53 PM (LRNu1)

203 "You know what we have? We basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don't know what the f--k they're doing. Do you understand that?
-

What a crass and stupid equation for Trump to make.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 24, 2025 12:53 PM (3447G)

204 She said she would go I and caucus with the Dems ala Bernie..
Posted by: It's me donna at June 24, 2025 12:49 PM (VE6XX)

I guess my post could be interpreted as changing parties . But caucusing with Dems is the same thing to me thus jumping ship.

Posted by: polynikes at June 24, 2025 12:54 PM (VofaG)

205 I think this would be a good time to just say "Let them fight, they clearly want to fight, and the US shouldn't particularly care about stopping them." Particularly given that Iran is crippled and ready to topple

That would be my approach as well. OK have fun boys, we took care of the nuke, supposedly, so we're done here.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 24, 2025 12:54 PM (dfIr7)

206 Dunno, could be stray voltage or something else. Politics in a semi authoritarian state resemble those of royal courts. There is a clear top dog but the couriers are in a constant struggle to beat out rivals for power under the king.
Posted by: whig at June 24, 2025 12:52 PM (ctrM5)

Could be. It's hard to say. But Trump was right to angrily respond and call it out.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 24, 2025 12:54 PM (uCjyK)

207 LOL... Must be miserable to be them...
Posted by: It's me donna
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The strong correlation between mental illness and leftism is very real. And I think in many cases, the meds are not helping.

Whether leftism causes unhappiness as a by product or unhappy people turn to leftism is not something that academia really wants to answer.

Posted by: whig at June 24, 2025 12:54 PM (ctrM5)

208 AOP - How are you feeling?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 24, 2025 12:54 PM (XeU6L)

209 Marina Medvin
@MarinaMedvin

Linda Sarsour — friends with Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib — talks about Islam and glorified martyrdom, and say she would be proud to d!e as an Islamic martyr.

https://tinyurl.com/5fferhe5

Posted by: redridinghood at June 24, 2025 12:54 PM (NpAcC)

210 I'm a panopticon. I spend lots of time looking at cookware.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 24, 2025 12:51 PM (Riz8t)

Which denomination? Williams-Sonoma or Crate and Barrel?

Posted by: Many doctrines but one faith at June 24, 2025 12:54 PM (TbWk/)

211 22 Let's all hope and pray Trump can thread this needle and somehow find a way to extradite ourselves from this very unpleasant situation
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 24, 2025 12:29 PM (uCjyK)

extradite?

Posted by: m at June 24, 2025 12:55 PM (CQE5S)

212 >>Weren't you just saying to me "when a country says Death to America, we should take them at their word" like... yesterday?

>>But when a country threatens to give nukes to another country, only a tool should take it seriously?

You aren't this retarded.

I know you love to pretend you are, but stop with the completely illogical and disingenuous arguments.

You are softer and wetter than the vagina you cosplay as.

Posted by: garrett at June 24, 2025 12:55 PM (MmNOR)

213 "Is the Brazilian chick still in the Volcano?
Posted by: pudinhead"

Wait what?

Posted by: eleven at June 24, 2025 12:55 PM (fV+MH)

214 ---
ICE arrested an Iranian in Alabama who they say is a sniper. He had his IRGC ID card on him.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at June 24, 2025 12:51 PM (paSBy)

I can't believe those racists asked for ID

Posted by: The Derpocrats, like the Aristocrats, but derpier at June 24, 2025 12:55 PM (pIfcn)

215 I thought it was Semen Hued Alison Cooper.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at June 24, 2025 12:55 PM (17s+e)

216 Occultist !

Posted by: runner at June 24, 2025 12:56 PM (g47mK)

217 is good for Philly is good

Yinzerography note: Braddock is a suburb of Pittsburgh.

Posted by: DaveA at June 24, 2025 12:56 PM (FhXTo)

218 Could be. It's hard to say. But Trump was right to angrily respond and call it out.

Yeah its basically middle eastern peen measuring contest at this point, trying to be the big man and gain some sort of points as a tough guy "I did the last thing, we hit them one more time!"

Meh, heck with them all. But I think we should stop sending Israel billions of dollars every year, just like we should stop sending EVERYONE money. Yeah its leverage but the heck with it, we're 36 TRILLION dollars in debt? We can't afford to send the high school money for the marching band this year, sorry.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 24, 2025 12:56 PM (dfIr7)

219 ICE arrested an Iranian in Alabama who they say is a sniper. He had his IRGC ID card on him.

He's just sniping the people Americans won't. Really it is an act of love

Posted by: Jeb Bush at June 24, 2025 12:57 PM (t0Rmr)

220 extradite?
Posted by: m at June 24, 2025 12:55 PM (CQE5S)

You're right, that should be extract. I should proof read more.

Posted by: garrett at June 24, 2025 12:55 PM (MmNOR)

Those are all great counter-points as usual, garrett, and are sure to convince me of the error of my ways.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 24, 2025 12:57 PM (uCjyK)

221 Posted by: garrett at June 24, 2025 12:55 PM (MmNOR)

He's on scroll by for me.

Posted by: polynikes at June 24, 2025 12:57 PM (VofaG)

222 I'm a panopticon. I spend lots of time looking at cookware.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 24, 2025 12:51 PM (Riz8t)

Which denomination? Williams-Sonoma or Crate and Barrel?

Pfffft. I'm High Church: All Clad and Made In.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 24, 2025 12:57 PM (Riz8t)

223 We rode the Duckboat in Pittsburgh. It was fun.

Posted by: toby928 at June 24, 2025 12:57 PM (jc0TO)

224 Could be. It's hard to say. But Trump was right to angrily respond and call it out.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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Assuming that the public facts are the same as private facts, US made clear that regime change for us is off the table.

The rest of Trump's commercialist outlook is that nations in the Middle East are going to have to learn to live together in peace and that peace will benefit everyone much more than repeating centuries of hatred, reprisals, and wars.

That may or may not be naive.

Posted by: whig at June 24, 2025 12:57 PM (ctrM5)

225 The left has got to be losing it about now, worse than usual. The mullahs could be on their last legs in Iran, more countries joining the Abraham accords, the new energy policy is beginning to pay off, stock market stays up, wages increasing, the border has been secured, illegals are leaving or getting tossed out and the power struggle in the Dem party is a thing of beauty. Cue mega - MAGA Nelson Muntz

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 24, 2025 12:57 PM (pwtJC)

226
What a crass and stupid equation for Trump to make.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 24, 2025 12:53 PM (3447G)

I didn't care for the wording of that either... Israel isn't fighting to fight.. They are fighting to stay alive...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 24, 2025 12:57 PM (VE6XX)

227

This reminds me of when the Iron Shiek and Nikolai Volkoff took on the Megapowers.

Posted by: E Buzz at June 24, 2025 12:57 PM (ww/G+)

228 The strong correlation between mental illness and leftism is very real. And I think in many cases, the meds are not helping.

They are almost all full time in therapy and that almost never helps

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 24, 2025 12:58 PM (dfIr7)

229 1) There was more outrage over the bombing of Iran in the American streets than in the Arab Street.

2) Billions to trillions of investment deals were lined up just a month or so ago with all the big money in the ME. But Trump's a blundering dummy that's going to get us bogged down in another ME quagmire?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 24, 2025 12:58 PM (2uKh/)

230 He's just sniping the people Americans won't. Really it is an act of love

"its a blessing of freedom!"
--David French

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 24, 2025 12:59 PM (dfIr7)

231 "He's on scroll by for me.
Posted by: polynikes "

That list has grown lately.

Posted by: eleven at June 24, 2025 12:59 PM (fV+MH)

232 I always refer my trickier foreign policy questions to the WNBA.

WNBA Champ Seemingly Calls for Trump’s Impeachment After Iranian Nuclear Facilities Strikes

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Well, This Is Another Fine Mess You've Gotten Me Into at June 24, 2025 12:59 PM (L/fGl)

233
~bat-bat, bat-bat-bat~

Posted by: Jasmine Crocketts' Eye Lashes at June 24, 2025 12:59 PM (5hfjS)

234 171 Round up all Iranian immigrants. They cannot be trusted. Islam is not a religion of peace as the imminent and wise JJ Sefton points out.

Trump needs to let Israel finish its business. No ceasefire.
Posted by: Diabeetus at June 24, 2025 12:49 PM (SawFp)

The Iranian expat community contains a lot of Jews and some Christians.

Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I WAS The Science at June 24, 2025 12:59 PM (8hxDK)

235 Meh, heck with them all. But I think we should stop sending Israel billions of dollars every year, just like we should stop sending EVERYONE money. Yeah its leverage but the heck with it, we're 36 TRILLION dollars in debt? We can't afford to send the high school money for the marching band this year, sorry.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 24, 2025 12:56 PM (dfIr7)

I agree on the money, but to me the bigger problem is that it sets us up to be in the situation we're in now.

Where we are being maneuvered by the same ghouls in the deep state who maneuvered the Ukraine war in to existence. It's much, much harder for them to do that if we don't have American troops everywhere on the planet and if we're not using the CIA to overthrow governments all over the world and we're not using American dollars to prop up regimes / pay off warlords / train Jihadists / whatever the fuck else we're doing.

It's the same way we sleep walked in to the war in Vietnam.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 24, 2025 12:59 PM (uCjyK)

236 228 The strong correlation between mental illness and leftism is very real. And I think in many cases, the meds are not helping.

They are almost all full time in therapy and that almost never helps
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 24, 2025 12:58 PM (dfIr7)

=======

"After 4 years, we have finally broken through and discovered that your father is the problem with everything in the world. Now, we will discuss how your grandfather's choice to die in Vietnam is further proof of your victimhood in modern day America."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 12:59 PM (GBKbO)

237 No, no....you misunderstand. I'm a famous big game hunter, and received emails about a legendary creature to hunt in America called the "snipe". I've had several guides lead me out at night to find one, but it seems to be very elusive.

Posted by: Iranian "Sniper" at June 24, 2025 12:59 PM (JCZqz)

238 But Trump's a blundering dummy that's going to get us bogged down in another ME quagmire?

I am looking forward to a month or so when all the people who swore this was going to happen or that WW3 was imminent are all silent and pretending that they never said any of that.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 24, 2025 01:00 PM (dfIr7)

239 Meh, heck with them all. But I think we should stop sending Israel billions of dollars every year, just like we should stop sending EVERYONE money. Yeah its leverage but the heck with it, we're 36 TRILLION dollars in debt? We can't afford to send the high school money for the marching band this year, sorry.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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Treaty arrangement going back to the Camp David Accords. Israel gets about 3.5 billion or so while Egypt gets about 1.3 billion. For the most part, a lot of the Israeli and Egyptian aid is spent on US weaponry which is why Egypt has M-1 tanks and Israel F-16's and F-35's.

There are far worse sinkholes in the budget than the relatively modest amount of military aid given to both countries so as to not fight against each other. Bribing them has worked now for over 50 years.

Posted by: whig at June 24, 2025 01:00 PM (ctrM5)

240 Marina Medvin
@MarinaMedvin

Linda Sarsour — friends with Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib — talks about Islam and glorified martyrdom, and say she would be proud to d!e as an Islamic martyr.

https://tinyurl.com/5fferhe5
------------

The 3 of them have no business in our country.

Posted by: Crusader at June 24, 2025 01:01 PM (TN0g+)

241 Before any cease-fire, the Mad Mullah should be forced to do the Emperor Hirohito thing. Khameini should be required to broadcast a declaration that:
- Iran renounces violence;
- Israel has a right to exist; and
- All that nonsense about the Twelfth Imam is in fact nonsense.

Posted by: Half Dozen at June 24, 2025 01:01 PM (5X3mo)

242 >>Those are all great counter-points as usual, garrett, and are sure to convince me of the error of my ways.

You are disingenuous.

Firstly, nowhere will you find a quote where I reference the chants of 'Death to America'. Not one. And I defy you to prove otherwise.

Second, you do nothing but move goalposts in order to maintain your ill informed and fundamentally retarded position.

If you identify as the Libertarian that you roleplay as, they should shun you for aligning yourself with their sophomoric ethos.

You are already hedging heavily on the Medvedev statement that I pointed out was corrected with prejudice. And now you want to double down on it being serious and worth consideration.

Your position is untenable and so fluid as to make it laughable.

Posted by: garrett at June 24, 2025 01:01 PM (MmNOR)

243 59 Tossing some anger towards Israel as well sets him up as the honest peacemaker
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 24, 2025 12:34 PM (y9nCu)

Agreed.

Posted by: m at June 24, 2025 01:01 PM (CQE5S)

244 It's much, much harder for them to do that if we don't have American troops everywhere on the planet and if we're not using the CIA to overthrow governments all over the world and we're not using American dollars to prop up regimes / pay off warlords / train Jihadists / whatever the fuck else we're doing.

Yeah we still have boots on the ground in like 18 countries around the world, the hell with that.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 24, 2025 01:01 PM (dfIr7)

245 If Jeb! had his way, CBP wouldn’t even exist, and he thinks exactly nothing of our immigration laws.

Fuck him.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 24, 2025 01:01 PM (LlXyc)

246 The rest of Trump's commercialist outlook is that nations in the Middle East are going to have to learn to live together in peace and that peace will benefit everyone much more than repeating centuries of hatred, reprisals, and wars.

That may or may not be naive.
Posted by: whig at June 24, 2025 12:57 PM (ctrM5)

Yeah, I don't think that will happen either.

So what do we, as Americans do? I'd argue we stay as far away from the whole thing as possible.

This is thousands of years of frankly exhausting history. We don't have a history of this kind of tribal warfare in the US, and it hasn't existed in Europe for a while, but this is the way of most of the world. Why should that be MY problem?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 24, 2025 01:01 PM (uCjyK)

247 I always refer my trickier foreign policy questions to the WNBA.

WNBA Champ Seemingly Calls for Trump’s Impeachment After Iranian Nuclear Facilities Strikes

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Well, This Is Another Fine Mess You've Gotten Me Into at June 24, 2025 12:59 PM (L/fGl)

If I were going to farm out my foreign policy opinions, I would opt for polling the more learned, worldly, and accomplished kindergarten tumbling champs.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 24, 2025 01:02 PM (i24o9)

248 The strong correlation between mental illness and leftism is very real. And I think in many cases, the meds are not helping.

Politics. I've said this a million times. I'll say it again. Marx got one thing right. Religion is the opiate of the masses.

What he got wrong was that the majority of the population just needs to be kept high. And Judeo Christianity is at least a benevolent drug. Not perfect. But not awful.

Way too many people "shooting up the evening news" as Jackson Brown sang.

Posted by: Doug Roberts at June 24, 2025 01:02 PM (qnifE)

249 219 ICE arrested an Iranian in Alabama who they say is a sniper. He had his IRGC ID card on him.

He's just sniping the people Americans won't. Really it is an act of love
Posted by: Jeb Bush

Sniper no sniping! Sniper no sniping!

Posted by: Dora the soon-to-be deported Explorer at June 24, 2025 01:02 PM (JCZqz)

250 I think this would be a good time to just say "Let them fight

It's The Gorilla Channel Way.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 24, 2025 01:02 PM (SSEhk)

251 If Jeb! had his way, CBP wouldn’t even exist, and he thinks exactly nothing of our immigration laws.

Fuck him.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 24, 2025 01:01 PM (LlXyc)

Yep. No quarter.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 24, 2025 01:02 PM (i24o9)

252 I didn't care for the wording of that either... Israel isn't fighting to fight.. They are fighting to stay alive...
Posted by: It's me donna at June 24, 2025 12:57 PM (VE6XX)

Trump knows all of it. He is doing more for Israel right now than any president probably before him.

We have been inundated with "leaders" who knew all the right things to say, talked leeringly about an Axis of Evil, and then proceeded to fuck us from every direction known to man.

I honestly dont care what Trump says, let's wait and see what he does and what the result is.

Posted by: ... at June 24, 2025 01:02 PM (wZXGx)

253 "After 4 years, we have finally broken through and discovered that your father is the problem with everything in the world. Now, we will discuss how your grandfather's choice to die in Vietnam is further proof of your victimhood in modern day America."

Seriously, much of "therapy" today is "find out how its everyone else's fault and they should change" not "how can you become a better person and heal." If you get better, you stop paying.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 24, 2025 01:03 PM (dfIr7)

254 18-1 I am with you. The Leftists want Socialism and under Islam they can have it.

Posted by: Skip at June 24, 2025 01:03 PM (+qU29)

255 130 1)...to the pearl clutchers who are alarmed by our President saying the F word on camera...good.

Ya know, it's possible to prefer a bit more decorum in our leaders without us being pearl clutchers. But you do you.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 24, 2025 12:45 PM (Riz8t)

I will say whatever I feel like as everyone else does here. He's mad. Cussin' mad. I don't cuss in front of my children, parents, or grandchildren. Or in public. I wear pearls but don't need smelling salts for a stray word that is said in every movie and rap song.

But I think it, and he has the right to make a "mistake" in anger now and then. He did not bonk anyone with mics, altho he probably felt like it at the time.

He is from Queens. People cuss from NY more than the South where I am from. He is tired. He is fed up. And now he has to go deal with the stuttering clusters in NATO. I hope he gets some sleep.

Saying that, I hope he does not do it again and give people ammo to whine when he's trying to keep us alive.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 24, 2025 01:03 PM (6PCLE)

256 219 ICE arrested an Iranian in Alabama who they say is a sniper. He had his IRGC ID card on him.

He's just sniping the people Americans won't. Really it is an act of love
Posted by: Jeb Bush at June 24, 2025 12:57 PM (t0Rmr)

You got it all wrong, I snipe ebay auctions! It's how you get the best deals on rare Funko Pops!

Posted by: IRGC "sniper" at June 24, 2025 01:03 PM (8hxDK)

257 Pfffft. I'm High Church: All Clad and Made In.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 24, 2025 12:57 PM (Riz8t)

Well aren't we saucy.

Posted by: Interdenominational feuding is so sad at June 24, 2025 01:03 PM (TbWk/)

258 WNBA Champ Seemingly Calls for Trump’s Impeachment After Iranian Nuclear Facilities Strikes

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Well, This Is Another Fine Mess You've Gotten Me Into at June 24, 2025 12:59 PM (L/fGl)

She would have the Iran problem licked in no time.

Posted by: ... at June 24, 2025 01:03 PM (wZXGx)

259 64 Trump's AOC rant is hilarious!

End Wokeness
@EndWokeness
I strongly advise reading the entire rant until the end. It keeps getting better

https://tinyurl.com/bdeercn9
Posted by: redridinghood at June 24, 2025 12:35 PM (NpAcC)

hahahahaha

Posted by: m at June 24, 2025 01:03 PM (CQE5S)

260 253 Seriously, much of "therapy" today is "find out how its everyone else's fault and they should change" not "how can you become a better person and heal." If you get better, you stop paying.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 24, 2025 01:03 PM (dfIr7)

=======

"Oh, heal? You need to see my five times a week for that."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 01:03 PM (GBKbO)

261 He wants to appease the pacifists after running on a platform of "no new wars?"

I guess the definition of "war" can be as nebulous as the word "is."

Posted by: Tinfoil Dispenser at June 24, 2025 01:03 PM (ERYKL)

262 with the exception of garrett(LMAO), kudos to the rest of the horde for showing restraint in not tossing the label of DOOMER on Harry Paratestes. I know I was bad at times with thinking we couldn't beat the Dems in 24' because the the R's are unserious and retarded but good grief Harry you've been working yourself up into a tizzy since this "war" started. Pump the brakes bro you're gonna give yourself a f'ing heart attack. Save for IF, MAYBE, POSSIBLY WON'T HAPPEN we go boots on the ground and nation build. Everyone from our side to the other side mostly never gets it right in their predictions of doom when it comes to Trump.

Posted by: JROD at June 24, 2025 01:04 PM (IlL6s)

263 What he got wrong was that the majority of the population just needs to be kept high. And Judeo Christianity is at least a benevolent drug. Not perfect. But not awful.

I've always found in interesting that just from a cursorary review of the available data Christian societies are consistently better places to live then any other alternative.

Why...its almost like they are onto some sort of fundamental understanding of the universe or something...

I'm sure its just dumb luck though. Oh and as Jared Diamond says rivers. Definitely rivers.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 24, 2025 01:05 PM (t0Rmr)

264 Yep. Ugly, no class, lesbian bigots are my go to advisors for all things political.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at June 24, 2025 01:05 PM (17s+e)

265 If you identify as the Libertarian that you roleplay as, they should shun you for aligning yourself with their sophomoric ethos.

Posted by: garrett at June 24, 2025 01:01 PM (MmNOR)

I don't identify as a libertarian, although I may have when I was much younger.

I identify as a Republican who does not support endless wars. Like, you know, much of the party. And virtually all of the R party prior to WWII and the Cold War. And, at least based on their rhetoric, pretty much every R candidate for President with the exception of John McCain, since the end of the Cold War.

The neocons in the Republican party moved over to the D side and were wholly repudiated by Trump. That's why Dick Cheney and his daughter endorsed and campaigned for Kamala, because she was "tough on Iran" and Trump was going to be "weak."

So I think your views and rhetorical style might be a bit more appreciated on that side of the aisle, frankly.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 24, 2025 01:05 PM (uCjyK)

266 Next person who brings up WNBA spends a night in the box!

Posted by: runner at June 24, 2025 01:05 PM (g47mK)

267 WNBA - With No Balls Association

Posted by: dantesed at June 24, 2025 01:05 PM (Oy/m2)

268 They are almost all full time in therapy and that almost never helps
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Back when I was on a university task force for something or other, I stumbled across the information that most psych majors had mental illness problems themselves and were seeking to figure out exactly what was wrong with them and how to fix themselves.

Practicing psychologists come from psych undergrad majors so a fair chunk of psychologists themselves have or had mental issues.

I personally think the confessional system employed by the RCC or pastoral counseling are a better framework for resolving issues. A lot of people with troubles simply need someone to talk to that will not betray their trust.

Posted by: whig at June 24, 2025 01:06 PM (ctrM5)

269 WNBA Champ Seemingly Calls for Trump’s Impeachment After Iranian Nuclear Facilities Strikes

So that I understand her expertise...she thinks Iran will get more me-bounds then America if they don't eject Trump?

Posted by: 18-1 at June 24, 2025 01:06 PM (t0Rmr)

270 Pax Trump

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 24, 2025 01:06 PM (Splbu)

271 You people are digressing.

Posted by: eleven at June 24, 2025 01:06 PM (fV+MH)

272 >>I identify as a Republican

You forgot the Log Cabin part.

Posted by: garrett at June 24, 2025 01:06 PM (MmNOR)

273 266 Next person who brings up WNBA spends a night in the box!
Posted by: runner at June 24, 2025 01:05 PM (g47mK)

267 WNBA - With No Balls Association
Posted by: dantesed at June 24, 2025 01:05 PM

Awk-ward...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 24, 2025 01:07 PM (kgE5c)

274 249 219 ICE arrested an Iranian in Alabama who they say is a sniper. He had his IRGC ID card on him.

He's just sniping the people Americans won't. Really it is an act of love
Posted by: Jeb Bush

Sniper no sniping! Sniper no sniping!
Posted by: Dora the soon-to-be deported Explorer at June 24, 2025 01:02 PM (JCZqz)

The barbarian sniper should thank ICE for saving him from Alabama boys who would do far worse to him. Maybe throw him in a pen with wild boars that are also invading the South.

I appear to be in a mood.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 24, 2025 01:07 PM (6PCLE)

275 Seriously, much of "therapy" today is "find out how its everyone else's fault and they should change" not "how can you become a better person and heal." If you get better, you stop paying.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 24, 2025 01:03 PM (dfIr7)

With the ascendancy of cognitive behavioral therapy I think this statement is backward. But there are still plenty of therapists who will charge you hourly for talk therapy that offers no practical solutions for improving your issues.

Posted by: CBT's goal is for you to not need to come back at June 24, 2025 01:07 PM (TbWk/)

276 I personally think the confessional system employed by the RCC or pastoral counseling are a better framework for resolving issues. A lot of people with troubles simply need someone to talk to that will not betray their trust.

Freud brought this to Vienna and then psychology as a whole. Ironically mostly because its what one wealthy female patient wanted.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 24, 2025 01:07 PM (t0Rmr)

277 Din't they just have a NATO summit in Canada? You know what I am against? Endless NATO summits !

Posted by: runner at June 24, 2025 01:07 PM (g47mK)

278 If I were going to farm out my foreign policy opinions, I would opt for polling the more learned, worldly, and accomplished kindergarten tumbling champs.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 24, 2025 01:02 PM (i24o9)

We wrote a pretty good thesis on the strengths and weaknesses of having a tripartite system of government in the ME.

Posted by: New Falls Pre-K pattycake team at June 24, 2025 01:07 PM (8hxDK)

279 This is really Trump's goof more than anything else. He crowed about peace before he really had it, in a situation involving a faithless decades-long sponsor of Jew hate, America hate, and terror. And I think it makes his critics, especially on the right, look more reasonable: it is reasonable to fear a bad outcome, including escalation, when Trump doesn't really seem to understand what Iran is and that we likely can't negotiate any kind of successful long term deal or peace with it. Again, because it is a faithless decades-long sponsor of Jew hate, America hate, and terror

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 24, 2025 01:08 PM (SSEhk)

280 Still think Trump made a deal with Bibi.. I bomb Iran's nuke sites and you agree to a ceasefire...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 24, 2025 01:08 PM (VE6XX)

281 Next person who brings up WNBA spends a night in the box!

Something like 90% of the WNBA isn't letting a man anywhere near their box...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 24, 2025 01:08 PM (t0Rmr)

282 Back when I was on a university task force for something or other, I stumbled across the information that most psych majors had mental illness problems themselves and were seeking to figure out exactly what was wrong with them and how to fix themselves.

In order to maintain your license, I heard that therapists have to be in regular therapy. Its like a pyramid scheme but yeah I suspect that most of not all of them are a mess to begin with.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 24, 2025 01:08 PM (dfIr7)

283 Pump the brakes bro you're gonna give yourself a f'ing heart attack. Save for IF, MAYBE, POSSIBLY WON'T HAPPEN we go boots on the ground and nation build. Everyone from our side to the other side mostly never gets it right in their predictions of doom when it comes to Trump.
Posted by: JROD at June 24, 2025 01:04 PM (IlL6s)

I don't think I'm being a doomer, I'm pissed that the entire George W Bush / Obama / Deep State foreign policy bullshit that I thought we all agreed was a fuck up is not being as loudly repudiated (and is even being encouraged by some) as it should be.

Seeing people on my side demanding another regime change war in the middle east is not something I thought I would ever see again. It's quite shocking how quickly the war propaganda took over, frankly.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 24, 2025 01:08 PM (uCjyK)

284 76 The same thing happens to me when I try to broker a dispute in my household. You just end up in the middle all the time and taking collateral damage.
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at June 24, 2025 12:36 PM (8iNlE)

This is my life.

Posted by: m at June 24, 2025 01:09 PM (CQE5S)

285 Trump used a lot of political capitol taking out the iranian nuke sites. Bibi needs to get slapped around alittle if he isn't falling in line.

Posted by: Frank Barone at June 24, 2025 01:09 PM (IifOV)

286 End Wokeness
@EndWokeness
I strongly advise reading the entire rant until the end. It keeps getting better

https://tinyurl.com/bdeercn9
Posted by: redridinghood at June 24, 2025 12:35 PM

That was funny,

Posted by: Stateless.. 42% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 24, 2025 01:10 PM (jvJvP)

287 I don't pay much attention to Hairy Balls but was he all in for the Ukraine against Russia? Something seems to say yes but I'm not sure.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at June 24, 2025 01:10 PM (17s+e)

288 >>This is thousands of years of frankly exhausting history. We don't have a history of this kind of tribal warfare in the US, and it hasn't existed in Europe for a while, but this is the way of most of the world. Why should that be MY problem?

The Suez Canal and the Strait, no "s" by the way, of Hormuz are two of the most vital shipping lanes in the world. If they are disrupted by war it becomes the world's problem, like it or not.

Yesterday, Xi slapped down the mullahs when they hinted at closing the Hormuz. Why? Because China's economy and to a lesser extent some of the other Asian countries, can't function without Iranian oil. Shut down the Suez and our economy along with the rest of the world takes a big hit.

And wether we like it or not there are elements in Iran that would like to see us removed from the planet every bit as much as Israel. Great Satan and all that. Trump demonstrated exactly how to deal with this problem and it's not boots on the ground. If they didn't learn their lesson with the first hit then hit them again and keep hitting until they do learn. And then go home.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 24, 2025 01:10 PM (viF8m)

289 Pfffft. I'm High Church: All Clad and Made In.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 24, 2025 12:57 PM (Riz8t)

Well aren't we saucy.

Posted by: Interdenominational feuding is so sad

Don't get saucy with me, Bearnaise.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 24, 2025 01:10 PM (Riz8t)

290 Trump jumped the gun on the announcement a bit. Caught a few people off guard, including Vance who was on Teevee and not aware that the ceasefire was finalized.

Posted by: runner at June 24, 2025 01:10 PM (g47mK)

291 I'm sure its just dumb luck though. Oh and as Jared Diamond says rivers. Definitely rivers.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 24, 2025 01:05 PM (t0Rmr)

Yep. I'm not religious myself. But I'm ... different. Most people need what religion gives them. I'm pro-religion.

Posted by: Doug Roberts at June 24, 2025 01:10 PM (qnifE)

292 We wrote a pretty good thesis on the strengths and weaknesses of having a tripartite system of government in the ME.
Posted by: New Falls Pre-K pattycake team at June 24, 2025 01:07 PM

Aw, applesauce!

Nuke it from orbit!

Posted by: Little Rascals for World Peace at June 24, 2025 01:10 PM (kgE5c)

293 > Round up all Iranian immigrants. They cannot be trusted. Islam is not a religion of peace as the imminent and wise JJ Sefton points out.
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It's not the immigrants I'm concerned about. It's the hundreds of so-called single Iranian men of military age who waltzed across the open border over that last 4 years. It doesn't take a purported "sleeper-cell" or whatever one wants to call it to gin up chaos. Plus they've got a number of people that are sympathetic to "the jihad" here, milling around various universities.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 24, 2025 01:10 PM (Q4IgG)

294 Back when I was working in the ED one evening, I had a psychiatrist tell me that neurosurgeons and psychiatrists had the most mental health problems.

Posted by: Megthered at June 24, 2025 01:11 PM (z8cKF)

295 That's why Dick Cheney and his daughter endorsed and campaigned for Kamala, because she was "tough on Iran" and Trump was going to be "weak.

Harry Paratestes
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Needs citation bro.

Lizard endorsed Kamala because Trump was "dangerous" and "unconstitutional" and petty and cruel and J6 and Kamala was a "responsible adult" and a "patriot".

I don't know where you're getting this Toughness on Iran Moved The Cheneys to Kamala thing. Granted I don't generally give a fuck about anything like this but I consider myself reasonably informed.

Posted by: ... at June 24, 2025 01:11 PM (wZXGx)

296
What he got wrong was that the majority of the population just needs to be kept high. And Judeo Christianity is at least a benevolent drug. Not perfect. But not awful.

_________

Like, TPTB in 30 AD said, "Hey, this Jesus guy, let's make him big. That'll quiet everyone down."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 24, 2025 01:11 PM (GEhCH)

297 In order to maintain your license, I heard that therapists have to be in regular therapy. Its like a pyramid scheme but yeah I suspect that most of not all of them are a mess to begin with.
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Most business "coaches" are employed by or affiliated with coaching organizations that require them to have a coach themselves to remain in good graces. I don't have a problem this type of an arrangement when it comes to business since its another version of "accountability".

Posted by: Crusader at June 24, 2025 01:11 PM (TN0g+)

298 We’ve done what we needed to do. If Israel wants to keep pounding Iran, I say let them.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 24, 2025 01:11 PM (LlXyc)

299 Isn't it interesting that apparently unattached young men make up almost all of the "refugees" we end up taking? Why its almost like they are lying about why they came here...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 24, 2025 01:12 PM (t0Rmr)

300 287 I don't pay much attention to Hairy Balls but was he all in for the Ukraine against Russia? Something seems to say yes but I'm not sure.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at June 24, 2025 01:10 PM (17s+e)

No, I was attacked for being pro-Russian on this very site for opposing the Ukraine war from the beginning.

Well, not the beginning beginning. We all agreed it was a terrible idea in 2014 when Obama was president and we watched our own government set the wheels in motion for this inevitable war. Some of us kept that position.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 24, 2025 01:12 PM (uCjyK)

301 285 Trump used a lot of political capitol taking out the iranian nuke sites. Bibi needs to get slapped around alittle if he isn't falling in line.
Posted by: Frank Barone

4 Israelis were killed in the Iran pre-ceasefire strike. Probably had something to do with Bibi ordering the responding strike.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 24, 2025 01:12 PM (Dv3i1)

302 101 >>Yes I would like to know the reasoning for the staggered time requirements.

Israel is operating from forward bases.

Iran is not.

Posted by: garrett at June 24, 2025 12:40 PM (MmNOR)

Thank you!

Posted by: m at June 24, 2025 01:12 PM (CQE5S)

303 >>I identify as a Republican

You forgot the Log Cabin part.
Posted by: garrett at June 24, 2025 01:06 PM (MmNOR)

Dunno. With that phrasing it sounds more like Trans.

Posted by: ... at June 24, 2025 01:13 PM (wZXGx)

304 299 Isn't it interesting that apparently unattached young men make up almost all of the "refugees" we end up taking? Why its almost like they are lying about why they came here...
Posted by: 18-1 at June 24, 2025 01:12 PM (t0Rmr)

Yeah, but in the end, a border incursion is a border incursion, no matter your age or sex.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 24, 2025 01:13 PM (LlXyc)

305 Wait, is Jeb trying to make a comeback?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 24, 2025 01:14 PM (YUL+W)

306 transpublican ?

Posted by: runner at June 24, 2025 01:14 PM (g47mK)

307 I identify as a member of the Faith No More Spiritual and Theological Center.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 01:14 PM (GBKbO)

308
Like, TPTB in 30 AD said, "Hey, this Jesus guy, let's make him big. That'll quiet everyone down."

/breaks out fiddle

Let me play a song for this.

Hey Centurion, I need a little more light, can you throw more pitch on that Christian over there?

Posted by: 18-1 at June 24, 2025 01:14 PM (t0Rmr)

309 It's not the immigrants I'm concerned about. It's the hundreds of so-called single Iranian men of military age who waltzed across the open border over that last 4 years. It doesn't take a purported "sleeper-cell" or whatever one wants to call it to gin up chaos. Plus they've got a number of people that are sympathetic to "the jihad" here, milling around various universities.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 24, 2025 01:10 PM (Q4IgG)

Toss em all, regardless of age or sex. You waltz across the border without visiting CBP at a PoE, begone!

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 24, 2025 01:15 PM (LlXyc)

310 51 @40

>>You know who else was an optometrist?

Rand Paul.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 24, 2025 12:33 PM (XV/Pl)
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Assad

Posted by: Ciampino - better living through explosives at June 24, 2025 01:15 PM (sPQoU)

311 Yeah, but in the end, a border incursion is a border incursion, no matter your age or sex.

Well, traditionally invasions are mostly young men.

You get influxes of young women by killing their young men abroad.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 24, 2025 01:15 PM (t0Rmr)

312 And wether we like it or not there are elements in Iran that would like to see us removed from the planet every bit as much as Israel. Great Satan and all that.

I think the last time I agreed with you this much was when you clued me into The Jerry Garcia Band.

Posted by: Doug Roberts at June 24, 2025 01:16 PM (qnifE)

313 Did everyone actually cease fire at some point?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 24, 2025 01:16 PM (5wa80)

314 We’ve done what we needed to do. If Israel wants to keep pounding Iran, I say let them.

Posted by: Cow Demon
===

Do you perchance have a newsletter?

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at June 24, 2025 01:16 PM (17s+e)

315 307 I identify as a member of the Faith No More Spiritual and Theological Center.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 01:14 PM (GBKbO)

I appreciate that. Don’t forget Mr. Bungle.

Posted by: Mike Patton at June 24, 2025 01:16 PM (LlXyc)

316 Ooooh, legal s***'s gettin' real.

"The district court’s ruling of last night is indefensible." - Solicitor General John Sauer. DOJ is formally asking the Supreme Court to clarify the scope of its stay after the district judge yesterday appeared to defy the Supreme Court's order.

https://x.com/EWess92/status/1937544274264080593

Posted by: Archimedes at June 24, 2025 01:16 PM (Riz8t)

317 Nothing that is good for Philly is good for the country.

NOTHING.

And its woes are not because of suburbanization.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 24, 2025 01:16 PM (NFX2v)

318 The only way Kamala was going to be tough on Iran was if she used her teeth while blowing the Ayatollah

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 24, 2025 01:16 PM (pwtJC)

319
I appreciate that. Don’t forget Mr. Bungle.

What
Is
It?

Posted by: 18-1 at June 24, 2025 01:16 PM (t0Rmr)

320 313 Did everyone actually cease fire at some point?
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 24, 2025 01:16 PM (5wa80)

======

It's my impression that after the Iranian late fire and the Israeli response, it's been quiet.

I'm probably wrong.

I am an illiterate asshole.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 01:17 PM (GBKbO)

321 This is thousands of years of frankly exhausting history. We don't have a history of this kind of tribal warfare in the US, and it hasn't existed in Europe for a while, but this is the way of most of the world. Why should that be MY problem?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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I think part of the issue is that the US used to have two really big moats keeping us from trouble so any military issues were relatively brief such as the War against the Barbary Pirates, the War of 1812, etc.

With missiles and nukes, a bored or nutjob Kim Jong Il or some crazed mullah having delusions of a hidden 12th imam rising from a well have effectively erased those borders.

Uller Uprising, IMHO, is one of H. Beam Piper's best work along with his Paratime series.

Both involve a secret that is mainly just a bag of engineering tricks but give those of ill intent seeking power a means of attacking far bigger and more successful countries. Uller investigates what would have happened if the Sepoy rebellion took place with the rebels gaining the power of nukes. Paratime, the difficulty in keeping the Paratime secret of being able to travel between realities with to sometimes evil parallel societies.

Posted by: whig at June 24, 2025 01:17 PM (ctrM5)

322
I identify as a member of the Faith No More Spiritual and Theological Center.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 01:14 PM (GBKbO)

Drink's on Me Teetotaller Society and Weinstube !

Posted by: runner at June 24, 2025 01:17 PM (g47mK)

323 I personally think the confessional system employed by the RCC or pastoral counseling are a better framework for resolving issues. A lot of people with troubles simply need someone to talk to that will not betray their trust.
Posted by: whig at June 24, 2025 01:06 PM (ctrM5)

99% of people you tell your troubles to will use it for their own advantage or to fuck you unless there's a legal restriction. Such people are hard to find. And as someone who's gone the pastoral counseling route with different individuals, I can tell you it was naive and ineffectual at best. Reciting a Bible verse, a couple Christian book store bumper sticker platitudes. and telling you to pray about it is pretty useless for things like major depression, OCD, ADHD, abuse trauma, infidelity, marital disintegration, drug addiction, etc.

Posted by: They aren't equipped for the job at June 24, 2025 01:17 PM (TbWk/)

324 No, I was attacked for being pro-Russian on this very site for opposing the Ukraine war from the beginning.

Well, not the beginning beginning. We all agreed it was a terrible idea in 2014 when Obama was president and we watched our own government set the wheels in motion for this inevitable war. Some of us kept that position.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 24, 2025 01:12 PM (uCjyK)

Posted by: Mike Patton at June 24, 2025 01:17 PM (LlXyc)

325 *Teetotaler !

Posted by: runner at June 24, 2025 01:17 PM (g47mK)

326 We have illegals from Djibouti?

Send them to France...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 24, 2025 01:17 PM (t0Rmr)

327 316 Ooooh, legal s***'s gettin' real.

"The district court’s ruling of last night is indefensible." - Solicitor General John Sauer. DOJ is formally asking the Supreme Court to clarify the scope of its stay after the district judge yesterday appeared to defy the Supreme Court's order.

https://x.com/EWess92/status/1937544274264080593
Posted by: Archimedes at June 24, 2025 01:16 PM (Riz8t)

=======

"Fuck that judge. He issued an illegal order. He's going to jail."
-a better response

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 01:17 PM (GBKbO)

328 I'm sticking to my fence jockey position so I can claim to be right in 6 months.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 24, 2025 01:18 PM (mlg/3)

329 Toss em all, regardless of age or sex. You waltz across the border without visiting CBP at a PoE, begone!
_____

They have way more protections than you do, citizen. And are deserving of a lifetime's worth of due process. Overruled!

Posted by: Imperial District Court Judge at June 24, 2025 01:18 PM (Dv3i1)

330 Does anybody really know what time it is?

Wasson Watch Co. engages in some straight talk to the Nazis.

https://is.gd/vSkpWV

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Well, This Is Another Fine Mess You've Gotten Me Into at June 24, 2025 01:18 PM (L/fGl)

331 Regarding therapy in contemporary America:

The profession has entirely changed. Watch the videos by Leslie Elliott Boyce on YouTube ("The Radical Center"), which is on the seemingly boring tropic of "therapist training" -- she reveals that ALL therapists are now trained in extreme Critical Race Theory and Gender Politics, and they are compelled to turn their careers/practices into promoting extreme leftist ideology, brainwashing their clients to be filled with hate, resentment, victim-mentality, etc. (if they are minorities), and suicidal self-loathing (if they are white/straight). It's truly horrifying. The entire field of psychology has been infiltratrated, weaponized and destroyed.

Posted by: zombie at June 24, 2025 01:18 PM (pMi6S)

332 can never remember the difference between an optometrist, an optician, and an opthalmologist.
Posted by: Everyone at
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Probably get this wrong, but a mologist is a MD specialising in eyes; a metrist is like a bio-engineering phd specialising in eyes; and a titian is like a master mechanic for the eyes. Layman's understanding.

Posted by: From about That Time at June 24, 2025 01:18 PM (n4GiU)

333 >I identify as a Republican

You forgot the Log Cabin part.
Posted by: garrett at June 24, 2025 01:06 PM (MmNOR)

Lol

Posted by: polynikes at June 24, 2025 01:19 PM (VofaG)

334 149 Now do ocularist....
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at June 24, 2025 12:47 PM (w9Wax)

And orthoptist.

Posted by: m at June 24, 2025 01:19 PM (CQE5S)

335 324 No, I was attacked for being pro-Russian on this very site for opposing the Ukraine war from the beginning.

Well, not the beginning beginning. We all agreed it was a terrible idea in 2014 when Obama was president and we watched our own government set the wheels in motion for this inevitable war. Some of us kept that position.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 24, 2025 01:12 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: Mike Patton at June 24, 2025 01:17 PM (LlXyc)

TBF you believe absolutely nothing is worth fighting for, so in that you are consistent.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 24, 2025 01:19 PM (LlXyc)

336 Hate to see all those freshly printed Pro-Iran signs go to waste

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at June 24, 2025 01:19 PM (wBaIH)

337 All I can say is, I hope you all bought the dip.

'Cause I got some nice positions printing some good profits on this ceasefire that "we don't know if it's a ceasefire and we don't know if it will hold and oh the world is gonna end, I just know it!"

Make money, not tears.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 24, 2025 01:20 PM (2uKh/)

338 316 Ooooh, legal s***'s gettin' real.

"The district court’s ruling of last night is indefensible." - Solicitor General John Sauer. DOJ is formally asking the Supreme Court to clarify the scope of its stay after the district judge yesterday appeared to defy the Supreme Court's order.

https://x.com/EWess92/status/1937544274264080593
Posted by: Archimedes
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The judge involved should be sanctioned, removed from handling any further immigration cases, and the current case should be handed off to another judge that has not disgraced himself.

Posted by: whig at June 24, 2025 01:20 PM (ctrM5)

339 I identify as a member of the Faith No More Spiritual and Theological Center.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 01:14 PM

You mistake us for people who care a lot.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 24, 2025 01:20 PM (kgE5c)

340 Did everyone actually cease fire at some point?

Me. Have not even thrown a punch or as much as said an unkind word today. Of course, Fen ain't around.

Posted by: Doug Roberts at June 24, 2025 01:20 PM (qnifE)

341 In order to maintain your license, I heard that therapists have to be in regular therapy. Its like a pyramid scheme but yeah I suspect that most of not all of them are a mess to begin with.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 24, 2025 01:08 PM (dfIr7)

If you listen to the worst part of people for hours a week, you probably need someone to act as a touchstone to reality.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 24, 2025 01:20 PM (D7oie)

342 I think part of the issue is that the US used to have two really big moats keeping us from trouble so any military issues were relatively brief such as the War against the Barbary Pirates, the War of 1812, etc.

Posted by: whig at June 24, 2025 01:17 PM (ctrM5)

I understand that, and would even be more open to this line of thinking ... if I trusted our government a bit more to do what was in the interest of the American people, and not what is in the interest of the permanent bureaucracy and the Deep State / foreign policy blob.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 24, 2025 01:20 PM (uCjyK)

343 339 I identify as a member of the Faith No More Spiritual and Theological Center.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 01:14 PM

You mistake us for people who care a lot.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 24, 2025 01:20 PM (kgE5c)

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Bogus...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 01:20 PM (GBKbO)

344
Linda Sarsour — friends with Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib — talks about Islam and glorified martyrdom, and say she would be proud to d!e as an Islamic martyr.

The three of them should join hands and jump off the Tallahatchie Bridge.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 24, 2025 01:20 PM (63Dwl)

345 No, it's podiatrists. Or pederasts.
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Therapist or The rapist.

Posted by: Benny Hill at June 24, 2025 01:20 PM (Si7dW)

346 294 Back when I was working in the ED one evening, I had a psychiatrist tell me that neurosurgeons and psychiatrists had the most mental health problems.

Posted by: Megthered at June 24, 2025 01:11 PM (z8cKF)

Not a surprise that a profession that involves someone always holding life or death in their hands with the slightly touch right or wrong would start getting mental health issues from the constant state of stress.

Same for those that constantly hear the worst of the worst of mental health issues in others - a different form of mental stress with the same outcome (and they know how to diagnose themselves immediately)...

Posted by: Nova Local at June 24, 2025 01:20 PM (tOcjL)

347 341
If you listen to the worst part of people for hours a week, you probably need someone to act as a touchstone to reality.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 24, 2025 01:20 PM (D7oie)

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Hanging out with other therapists and swapping horror stories with a good laugh isn't good enough?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 01:21 PM (GBKbO)

348 The judge involved should be sanctioned, removed from handling any further immigration cases, and the current case should be handed off to another judge that has not disgraced himself.

Posted by: whig
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Or publicly disemboweled but mostly...

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at June 24, 2025 01:21 PM (17s+e)

349 297 In order to maintain your license, I heard that therapists have to be in regular therapy. Its like a pyramid scheme but yeah I suspect that most of not all of them are a mess to begin with.
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Most business "coaches" are employed by or affiliated with coaching organizations that require them to have a coach themselves to remain in good graces. I don't have a problem this type of an arrangement when it comes to business since its another version of "accountability".
Posted by: Crusader at June 24, 2025 01:11 PM (TN0g+)

Hell, even priests go to confession.

Posted by: Everybody needs somebody sometimes at June 24, 2025 01:21 PM (TbWk/)

350 294 Back when I was working in the ED one evening, I had a psychiatrist tell me that neurosurgeons and psychiatrists had the most mental health problems.

Posted by: Megthered at June 24, 2025 01:11 PM (z8cKF)

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Clearly, this psychiatrist has never been in a Starbucks and met a barista.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 01:21 PM (GBKbO)

351 All quiet on the ME front.

Posted by: polynikes at June 24, 2025 01:22 PM (VofaG)

352 Okay, I'm ignorant about exactly when the clock started, but as I understand it, the ceasefire schedule was thus:

In 6 hours, Iran was to cease;
After another 12 hours, Israel was to cease. The intervening 12 hours was for Iran to demonstrate they were going to comply before Israel would be required to comply.
After another 12 hours of compliance from both sides, peace would be declared.

It looks like Iran was unable to refrain from aggression, which we all expected, but I don't know what time chunk this happened in.

Posted by: Emmie at June 24, 2025 01:22 PM (rF2iL)

353 TBF you believe absolutely nothing is worth fighting for, so in that you are consistent.
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 24, 2025 01:19 PM (LlXyc)

I wouldn't say nothing is worth fighting for. For example, it would be nice if we fought a bit harder to protect our society and culture from millions of immigrants showing up every year.

As far as another war in Europe or the Middle East? I agree, those are, 9 out of 10 times, not worth fighting. And if they are, let's go through the normal war declaration process so we can all be on the same page about what we're doing, why, what our contingency plans are, what the risks are, etc.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 24, 2025 01:22 PM (uCjyK)

354 That would be the best outcome. Of course - we'll fuck that up. Because regime change there, and justice, will mean the winners putting the losers up against quite a few walls.

The Western World won't tolerate that. Hence the problem.
Posted by: Doug Roberts at June 24, 2025 12:37 PM (qnifE)
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Putting the mullahs and their enforcers against the wall is the ONLY WAY for a reasonable solution. The mullahs and their enforcers don't just have innocent blood on their hands, they have swimming pools full of it. Death to the mullahs, their enforcers, and their families is the only just way to proceed. Harsh deeds call for harsh punishments.

Posted by: Bonecrusher at June 24, 2025 01:23 PM (JNTt1)

355 Never been to a therapist. I do spend a lot of times with good friends having good times doing thinks we enjoy. Guess I'm lucky but therapy sure looks like a racket to me.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at June 24, 2025 01:23 PM (17s+e)

356 >>Back when I was working in the ED one evening, I had a psychiatrist tell me that neurosurgeons and psychiatrists had the most mental health problems.

There was a neurosurgeon who lived in my building in Boston. He insisted being called a physician not a doctor. Pompous asshole.

I used to call him doc just to piss him off.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 24, 2025 01:23 PM (viF8m)

357 Trump's AOC rant is hilarious!

End Wokeness
@EndWokeness
I strongly advise reading the entire rant until the end. It keeps getting better

https://tinyurl.com/bdeercn9
Posted by: redridinghood
+++
Of course it's obvious that Trump just wants to date her.

Posted by: Florida Peasant at June 24, 2025 01:23 PM (Lo97M)

358 Seriously, much of "therapy" today is "find out how its everyone else's fault and they should change" not "how can you become a better person and heal." If you get better, you stop paying.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 24, 2025 01:03 PM (dfIr7)

Our kids play baseball. Some Mom put it best in that it teaches (when done right) lesson that last a lifetime, beyond the game, including self-respect and respect for others, mastery of self including emotional and mental states (which we have been focusing on and reinforcing heavily).

Too many of the participation trophy generation lack these basic life skills.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 24, 2025 01:24 PM (i24o9)

359 Most therapists choose their major/profession because of issues they have. It's not a mental illness they develop afterwards.

Posted by: polynikes at June 24, 2025 01:24 PM (VofaG)

360 if I trusted our government a bit more to do what was in the interest of the American people

You get it. Stay skeptical.

Posted by: Doug Roberts at June 24, 2025 01:24 PM (qnifE)

361
The Western World won't tolerate that. Hence the problem.

Back when we were in 'Stan killing a jihadi that tried to knife you would get you a court martial.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 24, 2025 01:24 PM (t0Rmr)

362 174 Even the Bible calls them a stiff necked people.
Posted by: Doug Roberts at June 24, 2025 12:29 PM (qnifE)

God calls them a stiff necked people.
We report. You decide.
Posted by: The Old Testament at June 24, 2025 12:49 PM (FCbAQ)

Nice!

Posted by: m at June 24, 2025 01:24 PM (CQE5S)

363
It looks like Iran was unable to refrain from aggression, which we all expected, but I don't know what time chunk this happened in.
Posted by: Emmie at June 24, 2025 01:22 PM (rF2iL)

The first 6 hours

Posted by: It's me donna at June 24, 2025 01:24 PM (VE6XX)

364 I identify as a member of the Faith No More Spiritual and Theological Center.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 01:14 PM

You mistake us for people who care a lot.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 24, 2025 01:20 PM (kgE5c)

It's a dirty job but someone's gotta do it. Or have a midlife crisis.

Posted by: Epic! at June 24, 2025 01:24 PM (TbWk/)

365 >>I used to call him doc just to piss him off.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 24, 2025 01:23 PM (viF8m)

It's sad that we let subsequent generations be raised without the proper exposure to Bugs Bunny.

Posted by: garrett at June 24, 2025 01:24 PM (MmNOR)

366 There was a Rep in FL proposing yesterday (UK DM towards the bottom of the Kardashian crap and unknown "influencers" who died) to build a huge holding place in the Everglades for illegals. With gators and pythons surrounding the building.

Not a new idea, as it has been mentioned for decades. I had to laugh, however, at him going to the press. Which would set the Dims hair on fire.

I also read of the bleached blonde illegal bimbo, stopped in Colorado on a traffic citation. From Brazil as a 7yr old and no one bothered to become legal. She made a cool 28k with Go FUnd Me, then bleached her hair. Said food was awful for her detention. I say deport her entire stupid family who could not be bothered to become legal in 12yrs or so.

Thank you, Obama, for DACA as well as open borders and pallets of bazillions to Iran.

I can't wait to see what happens in the Netherlands with President Trump invading NATO. I hope he defunds NATO and deports them, too.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 24, 2025 01:24 PM (6PCLE)

367 365 >>I used to call him doc just to piss him off.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 24, 2025 01:23 PM (viF8m)

It's sad that we let subsequent generations be raised without the proper exposure to Bugs Bunny.
Posted by: garrett at June 24, 2025 01:24 PM (MmNOR)

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"1.21 gigawatts!"
-Doc Brown

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 01:25 PM (GBKbO)

368 On a serious note, FNM is criminally underappreciated.

Posted by: garrett at June 24, 2025 01:25 PM (MmNOR)

369 My therapist has been invaluable.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 24, 2025 01:25 PM (jBB4+)

370 I wouldn't be pissed at Israel--the point of a 12-hour notice for the cease-fire is to allow antagonists to respond in full to any provocation that occurs before the cease-fire goes into effect. Iran fired missiles at Israel, Israel responded. BFD.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at June 24, 2025 01:25 PM (7aURE)

371 Eric Daugherty
@EricLDaugh
·
15m
🚨 JUST IN: Jasmine Crockett’s campaign to become the top Democrat member on the powerful House Oversight Committee has failed.

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Token doesn't realize she's a token.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 01:25 PM (GBKbO)

372 Putting the mullahs and their enforcers against the wall is the ONLY WAY for a reasonable solution. The mullahs and their enforcers don't just have innocent blood on their hands, they have swimming pools full of it. Death to the mullahs, their enforcers, and their families is the only just way to proceed. Harsh deeds call for harsh punishments.
Posted by: Bonecrusher at June 24, 2025 01:23 PM (JNTt1)

So should it be American foreign policy to institute regime changes in every regime across the world that has innocent blood on their hands? Because that sounds like quite the undertaking.

And what if we do a regime change, but like Afghanistan or Iraq, we end up replacing a government with innocent blood on their hands with another government with innocent blood on their hands? We just keep the wars going until we find someone we like? What if the people don't like that guy? Or does that not matter?

This seems like quite the path to endless wars. Which I'm sure many in DC and the MIC would love, but I don't think is in the best interest of, well, the rest of us.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 24, 2025 01:26 PM (uCjyK)

373 Hanging out with other therapists and swapping horror stories with a good laugh isn't good enough?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 01:21 PM (GBKbO)

Dad said that before I was born, there was a bar down on the edge of the state mental hospital where a lot of the workers and staff would hit after shift. He said there were some odd people there that were awfully entertaining. I suspect there was a lot of that sort of story telling. After Dad died I discovered that my bio-mom worked as clerical staff for the state hospital system at that time and that was probably where he met her.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 24, 2025 01:26 PM (D7oie)

374 WNBA - With No Balls Association
Posted by: dantesed

Sorry. Brent Griner has two.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 24, 2025 01:26 PM (3xZyM)

375 Wait, is Jeb trying to make a comeback?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone

A comeback to a never was?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Well, This Is Another Fine Mess You've Gotten Me Into at June 24, 2025 01:26 PM (L/fGl)

376
I can't wait to see what happens in the Netherlands with President Trump invading NATO. I hope he defunds NATO and deports them, too.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 24, 2025 01:24 PM (6PCLE)

Wouldn't want to be them with the mood Trump is in right now.. LOL

Posted by: It's me donna at June 24, 2025 01:26 PM (VE6XX)

377 As I've posted many times before ( sorry) that the Left have 10 mental defects common in everyone of them.

Posted by: polynikes at June 24, 2025 01:26 PM (VofaG)

378 Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 24, 2025 12:51 PM (JCZqz)

aagghh
I need to go take a shower now.

Posted by: m at June 24, 2025 01:27 PM (CQE5S)

379 345 No, it's podiatrists. Or pederasts.
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Therapist or The rapist.

Anal bum cover. Suck it, Trebek!

Posted by: Sean Connery at June 24, 2025 01:27 PM (Riz8t)

380 I identify as a member of the Faith No More Spiritual and Theological Center.
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So you want it all, but you can't have it?

I care a lot.

Posted by: Crusader at June 24, 2025 01:27 PM (TN0g+)

381 I had a psychiatrist tell me that neurosurgeons and psychiatrists had the most mental health problems.
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You should have figured that out in Psychology 101.

Posted by: pudinhead at June 24, 2025 01:27 PM (FmapG)

382 Is this now the time when thousands of military age American Jews start going to Israel to help defend the home land ?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Going deep. Out. at June 24, 2025 01:27 PM (oLdT5)

383 Never been to a therapist. I do spend a lot of times with good friends having good times doing thinks we enjoy. Guess I'm lucky but therapy sure looks like a racket to me.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at June 24, 2025 01:23 PM (17s+e)

Talk to me when you have crippling depression and don't know how to address it.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 24, 2025 01:27 PM (D7oie)

384 Off to the salt mines already, have a great afternoon everyone
And stay hydrated

Posted by: Skip at June 24, 2025 01:27 PM (+qU29)

385 I wouldn't say nothing is worth fighting for. For example, it would be nice if we fought a bit harder to protect our society and culture from millions of immigrants showing up every year.

As far as another war in Europe or the Middle East? I agree, those are, 9 out of 10 times, not worth fighting. And if they are, let's go through the normal war declaration process so we can all be on the same page about what we're doing, why, what our contingency plans are, what the risks are, etc.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 24, 2025 01:22 PM (uCjyK)

I have it on good authority that this position will get you kicked out of 'MAGA' and declared a grandstander.

Posted by: ghbucky at June 24, 2025 01:28 PM (/xDbx)

386 Pediatricians and pediatrists are basically the same thing right?
Posted by: eleven

and podiatrists. One big club.
Posted by: Count de Monet

That's why foot-fetishists don't go for the fancy Latin or Greek naming. They don't want to be in a club with those other -philes.

Posted by: mikeski at June 24, 2025 01:28 PM (FT8No)

387 363
It looks like Iran was unable to refrain from aggression, which we all expected, but I don't know what time chunk this happened in.
Posted by: Emmie at June 24, 2025 01:22 PM (rF2iL)

The first 6 hours
Posted by: It's me donna at June 24, 2025 01:24 PM (VE6XX)

Abdul or Mo with missiles did not get the memo. I hope those who fired are quite dead now. When you are this inbred you just cannot help yourself.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 24, 2025 01:28 PM (6PCLE)

388 Israel doesn't know the f**k what it's doing? Lol.

Even applying the Trump Literally/Seriously Filter very firmly, a fair amount of weird verbiage the last 24 hours.

Meanwhile, real world issues remain unresolved and will only continue.

Iranian support for regional troublemakers and terrorism
Iranian efforts to restore nuke program (prospective)
Iranian efforts to restore missile capability (very likely)
US "max pressure" policy, which has concrete mileposts and choices, like snap-back sanctions

Safe to say "HATE" will not be disappearing, and that "LOVE" will not be replacing it.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 24, 2025 01:28 PM (1m82a)

389 One of the tweets of the day was from Bonchie as well:
"Note to Iran -- I'm gonna need this ceasefire to happen because I've already dunked on Candace Owens over it.
Thank you for your attention to this matter."

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 24, 2025 01:28 PM (uWKK8)

390 369 My therapist has been invaluable.
Posted by: WitchDoktor

My parish priest helped me find a Catholic therapy practice; they've been very helpful to me as well.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 24, 2025 01:29 PM (Splbu)

391 Too many of the participation trophy generation lack these basic life skills.

Any regular discipline that requires practice, routine scheduling, and hardship to overcome is incredibly valuable to young peoples' development. Long as you don't overdo it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 24, 2025 01:29 PM (dfIr7)

392 Our kids play baseball. Some Mom put it best in that it teaches (when done right) lesson that last a lifetime, beyond the game, including self-respect and respect for others, mastery of self including emotional and mental states (which we have been focusing on and reinforcing heavily).

Too many of the participation trophy generation lack these basic life skills.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 24, 2025 01:24 PM (i24o9)

I learned that unless you had a load of natural talent or were being coached privately nobody gave a shít about building your skills so you could participate more meaningfully. And that your teammates would scapegoat you if they flubbed a play, such as blaming you for not catching that fly that they audibly and repeatedly called that they had. So I grew to hate the game, and team sports in general.

Posted by: Baseball done wrong at June 24, 2025 01:29 PM (TbWk/)

393 Reciting a Bible verse, a couple Christian book store bumper sticker platitudes. and telling you to pray about it is pretty useless for things like major depression, OCD, ADHD, abuse trauma, infidelity, marital disintegration, drug addiction, etc.
Posted by: They aren't equipped for the job
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I don't really see psychologists as doing much better to be honest. And psychiatrists prescribe pills as candy that do real damage to people.

Substance addiction is more of a medical problem combined often with psychological underpinnings along with certain medical conditions based on biological issues like OCD, autism, etc.

But, I have seen ill trained 'psychologists' actually make things worse as I had to deal with such for students with needs. One such psychologist used her own step kid as a research subject and another had documentation that they had fetal alcohol syndrome so were not responsible for violent outbursts with instructors. Turned out all of their 'violence' was directed at female instructors, not males which explicitly negates the entire fetal alcohol syndrome diagnosis. People with such do not distinguish between sexes as targets for their outbursts.

Posted by: whig at June 24, 2025 01:29 PM (ctrM5)

394 331 Regarding therapy in contemporary America:

The profession has entirely changed. Watch the videos by Leslie Elliott Boyce on YouTube ("The Radical Center"), which is on the seemingly boring tropic of "therapist training" -- she reveals that ALL therapists are now trained in extreme Critical Race Theory and Gender Politics, and they are compelled to turn their careers/practices into promoting extreme leftist ideology, brainwashing their clients to be filled with hate, resentment, victim-mentality, etc. (if they are minorities), and suicidal self-loathing (if they are white/straight). It's truly horrifying. The entire field of psychology has been infiltratrated, weaponized and destroyed.
Posted by: zombie at June 24, 2025 01:18 PM (pMi6S)
I'm going with what Zombie said.

Posted by: Eromero at June 24, 2025 01:29 PM (LHPAg)

395 382 Is this now the time when thousands of military age American Jews start going to Israel to help defend the home land ?

Asking for a friend.
Posted by: Going deep. Out. at June 24, 2025 01:27 PM (oLdT5)

In point of fact, that has already happened.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 24, 2025 01:30 PM (uWKK8)

396 Back when we were in 'Stan killing a jihadi that tried to knife you would get you a court martial.

I knew we were waisting our time when the first GI got a Field Grade for stopping a Muz from ass raping a little boy.

The entire system was fucked at that point. And Obama didn't do it all himself.

Posted by: Doug Roberts at June 24, 2025 01:30 PM (qnifE)

397 Sure hope the Dutch have a good security plan for the NATO conference. The Iranians could activate a sleeper cell and cause a ness

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 24, 2025 01:30 PM (pwtJC)

398 382 Is this now the time when thousands of military age American Jews start going to Israel to help defend the home land ?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Going deep. Out

Reinhard Heydrich?

Posted by: Archimedes at June 24, 2025 01:30 PM (Riz8t)

399 Now do ocularist....
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at June 24, 2025 12:47 PM (w9Wax)

And orthoptist.
Posted by: m at Jun
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Comparable to brake shops and body shops. Trained workers with expertise in a specialty.

Posted by: From about That Time at June 24, 2025 01:30 PM (n4GiU)

400 Never been to a therapist. I do spend a lot of times with good friends having good times doing thinks we enjoy. Guess I'm lucky but therapy sure looks like a racket to me.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at June 24, 2025 01:23 PM (17s+e)

Talk to me when you have crippling depression and don't know how to address it.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 24, 2025 01:27 PM (D7oie)
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Sorry to hear that. What I'm saying is IMHO a very large percentage of people that go to therapy do it to be fashionable or to have a person listen to them. Like I said, I'm lucky.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at June 24, 2025 01:31 PM (17s+e)

401 Putting the mullahs and their enforcers against the wall is the ONLY WAY for a reasonable solution. The mullahs and their enforcers don't just have innocent blood on their hands, they have swimming pools full of it. Death to the mullahs, their enforcers, and their families is the only just way to proceed. Harsh deeds call for harsh punishments.
Posted by: Bonecrusher
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Feel free to head there to lead the revolution. Not my circus, not my monkeys.

Posted by: whig at June 24, 2025 01:31 PM (ctrM5)

402 God says a lot of unhappy things about Jews but I think He singled them out to be His people because they are so generally representative of humanity in general: what they did, I probably would have in their place, too. And I'm about as goy as they get. I have English, Scottish, Danish, and maybe some Lakota in my past

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 24, 2025 01:31 PM (dfIr7)

403
An Iranian comeback has to be paid for and I doubt we're dropping pallets of cash anymore.

Posted by: Auspex at June 24, 2025 01:31 PM (j4U/Z)

404 When I was a court adjuster, I would frequently choose not to get independent medical exams from psychiatrists to rebut the plaintiff Even though they would be my expert , psychiatrists innately have to find something wrong with you.

Posted by: polynikes at June 24, 2025 01:31 PM (VofaG)

405 My therapist is Johnny Walker. Well, him and my old grandad.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Well, This Is Another Fine Mess You've Gotten Me Into at June 24, 2025 01:32 PM (L/fGl)

406 . The entire field of psychology has been infiltratrated, weaponized and destroyed.
Posted by: zombie at June

Probably why you don’t see anyone improving. One of my clients is a PhD therapist. I honestly love her and her entire demeanor. I am sure she is more liberal than I am, because that doesn’t take much, but she is not out there doing what you described. She told me therapy is not and should not be a permanent feature or you are trading one crux for another. The goal in therapy should be not to need a therapist, but have tools to respond appropriately to the world. Now maybe something big happens and you need to go back for a little reset, but it’s not supposed to be a forever situation. You are supposed to actively be working on fixing things.

Posted by: Piper at June 24, 2025 01:33 PM (QzINz)

407 403
An Iranian comeback has to be paid for and I doubt we're dropping pallets of cash anymore.
Posted by: Auspex at June 24, 2025 01:31 PM (j4U/Z)

I wouldn't bet against it! I think we'd be shocked if we knew how much we were truly funding all of this shit.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 24, 2025 01:33 PM (uCjyK)

408 Linda Sarsour — friends with Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib — talks about Islam and glorified martyrdom, and say she would be proud to d!e as an Islamic martyr.

The three of them should join hands and jump off the Tallahatchie Bridge.
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Billy Jo McAlister hardest hit.

Posted by: Crusader at June 24, 2025 01:33 PM (TN0g+)

409 >>I learned that unless you had a load of natural talent or were being coached privately nobody gave a shít about building your skills so you could participate more meaningfully.

I got to Div I.

With nothing but a Tee, a Woodpile and a bucket of Baseballs scrounged out of the wood lot adjacent to the public ballfield in my town.

Nobody worked with me outside of regular season coaching.

The lesson Baseball teaches is that you should understand your responsibilities wherever the ball ends up next, on the field. In play, out of play...understanding the situation and your responsibility in every conceivable outcome is understanding the Why? of baseball.

Posted by: garrett at June 24, 2025 01:33 PM (MmNOR)

410 Putting the mullahs and their enforcers against the wall is the ONLY WAY for a reasonable solution. The mullahs and their enforcers don't just have innocent blood on their hands, they have swimming pools full of it. Death to the mullahs, their enforcers, and their families is the only just way to proceed. Harsh deeds call for harsh punishments.
Posted by: Bonecrusher at June 24, 2025 01:23 PM (JNTt1)

The model for what needs to happen is Syria last December, and yeah, a lot of ugly things happened, some to people who deserved it, and some who didn't.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 24, 2025 01:33 PM (uWKK8)

411 From the Bee:

Obama Distraught As Trump Bombs Cool Nuke Factory He Paid For

Posted by: rickb223 at June 24, 2025 01:33 PM (3xZyM)

412 118 Pediatricians and pediatrists are basically the same thing right?
Posted by: eleven at June 24, 2025 12:40 PM (fV+MH)

and podiatrists. One big club.
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 24, 2025 12:43 PM (wVcYX)

Hey, don't forget about us. . . .

Posted by: Pederasts at June 24, 2025 01:34 PM (JNTt1)

413 Is this now the time when thousands of military age American Jews start going to Israel to help defend the home land ?

Certain folks here "love Israel" the same way they love the Cowboys or Steelers.

If there was a true White Trash Trailer Park Homeland ? I'd shut the fuck up online and move my treasure and ass to go be with my people.

Posted by: Doug Roberts at June 24, 2025 01:34 PM (qnifE)

414 Talk to me when you have crippling depression and don't know how to address it.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 24, 2025 01:27 PM (D7oie)
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Chronic Depression knows no political party. It's more of a chemical imbalance .

Posted by: polynikes at June 24, 2025 01:35 PM (VofaG)

415 One little noted positive surprise from the late/paused festivities is the new German chancellor, who's spoken plainly and sensibly in a way not seen on most topics from Euro leaders in a long time. The sad remnant of the UK actually behaved well too, especially considering the especially idiotic government now in place.

Probably not a real change, and they'd all immediately engage in reckless self-seeking $$$-centric behavior with Iran or any other enemy under cover of the US playing the adult role, as with Iraq and Iran throughout recent history, but interesting.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 24, 2025 01:35 PM (1m82a)

416 God says a lot of unhappy things about Jews but I think He singled them out to be His people because they are so generally representative of humanity in general: what they did, I probably would have in their place, too. And I'm about as goy as they get. I have English, Scottish, Danish, and maybe some Lakota in my past
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

I'd have chosen the Italians because did the Jews invent pizza and spaghetti?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Well, This Is Another Fine Mess You've Gotten Me Into at June 24, 2025 01:36 PM (L/fGl)

417 397 Sure hope the Dutch have a good security plan for the NATO conference. The Iranians could activate a sleeper cell and cause a ness
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 24, 2025 01:30 PM (pwtJC)

I do as well and pray for President Trump's health and safety (every day).

Hopefully security is not coming off a bender, in more ways than one, from Amsterdam.

I highly recommend a security dyke woman from Shipol Airport whom I named Helga to be head of security. She messed with me and I sure as heck don't look like a terrorist (well, I didn't then, I do today). That airport is well secured from the times I have flown in and out.

I know President Trump, unless he has a nice nap, is going to not be super diplomatic with the whiners of NATO.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 24, 2025 01:36 PM (6PCLE)

418 There was a Rep in FL proposing yesterday to build a huge holding place in the Everglades for illegals. With gators and pythons surrounding the building.
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It's reportedly moving forward. DOJ and DHS bought in. The site was an old airport or prison, apparently.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at June 24, 2025 01:36 PM (paSBy)

419 She told me therapy is not and should not be a permanent feature or you are trading one crux for another. The goal in therapy should be not to need a therapist, but have tools to respond appropriately to the world. Now maybe something big happens and you need to go back for a little reset, but it’s not supposed to be a forever situation. You are supposed to actively be working on fixing things.
Posted by: Piper at June 24, 2025 01:33 PM (QzINz)

She probably does CBT and or DBT which are designed to do those very things. They involve a lot of homework, self-study, and practice.

Posted by: That's the right approach IMHO at June 24, 2025 01:36 PM (TbWk/)

420 382 Is this now the time when thousands of military age American Jews start going to Israel to help defend the home land ?

Asking for a friend.
Posted by: Going deep. Out. at June 24, 2025 01:27 PM (oLdT5)

Well, a couple/few thousand Jews (all ages) immigrate to Israel each year, but many of us are already in our Homeland, the US.

Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I WAS The Science at June 24, 2025 01:36 PM (8hxDK)

421 I can't wait to see what happens in the Netherlands with President Trump invading NATO. I hope he defunds NATO and deports them, too.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 24, 2025 01:24 PM (6PCLE)

Just saw a Pity Piece in the MSM about a guy who somehow had served in the US Army... got a Purple Heart... and self deported now because he was worried about a bust after he got out?

So he served but never bothered to get citizenship? or did he use a Fake ID to get into the Service? which is a FELONY?

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 24, 2025 01:36 PM (mP0Kj)

422
I'd have chosen the Italians because did the Jews invent pizza and spaghetti?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Well, This Is Another Fine Mess You've Gotten Me Into at June 24, 2025 01:36 PM (L/fGl)

And what's this thing about no bacon ?

Posted by: It's me donna at June 24, 2025 01:37 PM (VE6XX)

423 330 Does anybody really know what time it is?

Wasson Watch Co. engages in some straight talk to the Nazis.

https://is.gd/vSkpWV
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Well, This Is Another Fine Mess You've Gotten Me Into at June 24, 2025 01:18 PM (L/fGl)
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Their watches are nice enough, but a bit spendy for what they are. Better off buying a Hamilton Cooper Aviation.

That said, their X page is wildly entertaining.

Posted by: Pennsyltucky at June 24, 2025 01:37 PM (QdGJh)

424 421 Just saw a Pity Piece in the MSM about a guy who somehow had served in the US Army... got a Purple Heart... and self deported now because he was worried about a bust after he got out?

So he served but never bothered to get citizenship? or did he use a Fake ID to get into the Service? which is a FELONY?
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 24, 2025 01:36 PM (mP0Kj)

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Or he is a citizen and is just kind of stupid enough to believe the media narrative that Trump is deporting everyone.

Remember the video of the old white lady in Massachusetts crying because she might be next?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 01:37 PM (GBKbO)

425 It's reportedly moving forward. DOJ and DHS bought in. The site was an old airport or prison, apparently.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at June 24, 2025 01:36 PM (paSBy)

Good! Gangs of gators and pythons would certainly give them pause to escape. There will be additional sqeeing from the Dim Corpse.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 24, 2025 01:37 PM (6PCLE)

426 420 382 Is this now the time when thousands of military age American Jews start going to Israel to help defend the home land ?

Asking for a friend.
Posted by: Going deep. Out. at June 24, 2025 01:27 PM (oLdT5)

Well, a couple/few thousand Jews (all ages) immigrate to Israel each year, but many of us are already in our Homeland, the US.
Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I WAS The Science at June 24, 2025 01:36 PM (8hxDK)

I should have said a couple of thousand from the US. Many more from other countries, especially I think former USSR nations.

Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I WAS The Science at June 24, 2025 01:37 PM (8hxDK)

427 From Cynical Publius in American Greatness:

To preview succinctly, the Trump Doctrine consists of a series of business-like, iterative steps for all uses of American military force, and it performs as follows:

1. Identify America’s national interest.

2. Bargain with the prospective enemy.

3. If/when negotiations fail, conceal & misdirect.

4. Strike with precision and overwhelming force.

5. Achieve submission.

6. Bargain again (from a position of complete strength) with the defeated enemy.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 24, 2025 01:37 PM (Dv3i1)

428 What a homo that Scogg guy is. Sheesh!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 24, 2025 01:38 PM (Jf0CV)

429 425 It's reportedly moving forward. DOJ and DHS bought in. The site was an old airport or prison, apparently.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at June 24, 2025 01:36 PM (paSBy)

Good! Gangs of gators and pythons would certainly give them pause to escape. There will be additional sqeeing from the Dim Corpse.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 24, 2025 01:37 PM (6PCLE)

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No barbed wire. No stockade. No watch tower. Only a magnetic shield, which prevents beaming. We are an island in the swamp.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 01:38 PM (GBKbO)

430 219 ICE arrested an Iranian in Alabama who they say is a sniper. He had his IRGC ID card on him.

He's just sniping the people Americans won't. Really it is an act of love
Posted by: Jeb Bush

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He's an "Alabama man" racist!

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 24, 2025 01:38 PM (Vh9CX)

431 My therapist is Johnny Walker. Well, him and my old grandad.

And you drink alone...

Posted by: Cheerful Reprobate at June 24, 2025 01:38 PM (v+gTt)

432 So he served but never bothered to get citizenship? or did he use a Fake ID to get into the Service? which is a FELONY?
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 24, 2025 01:36 PM (mP0Kj)

Yes I thought serving got you fast tracked to citizenship.

Posted by: polynikes at June 24, 2025 01:38 PM (VofaG)

433 Remember the video of the old white lady in Massachusetts crying because she might be next?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 01:37 PM (GBKbO)

I am not sure I can survive the stupids in 2025, but I will try. I knew they went insane in November 2024, but the condition seems to be terminal.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 24, 2025 01:39 PM (6PCLE)

434 The only thing I have ever found to be a reliable solution to alleviate Depression is Exercise.

Posted by: garrett at June 24, 2025 01:39 PM (MmNOR)

435 The lesson Baseball teaches is that you should understand your responsibilities wherever the ball ends up next, on the field.

The only lesson I ever saw any ball-player back in the day learn was that playing dress up and playing a game for applause beat the Hell out of finishing concrete or hanging drywall.

Not once, in my entire life, have I ever looked around and wished we had another short stop or outside line-backer or power forward on the job. Needed a fitter or millwright more times than I can count.

Posted by: Doug Roberts at June 24, 2025 01:39 PM (qnifE)

436 I'd have chosen the Italians because did the Jews invent pizza and spaghetti?

Yeah I mean, I like some Jewish traditional food but... its not as good as Italian or Spanish or even Chinese. I mean English, Scots, and Danish food are all pretty awful too so I don't mean to dump on anyone.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 24, 2025 01:39 PM (dfIr7)

437 The site was an old airport or prison, apparently.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at June 24, 2025 01:36 PM (paSBy)

Huh. I heard this story, and thought "Man, that's gonna be an engineering nightmare. And i'm not a huge fan of carving out huge chunks of wetland, even for a pretty good cause." I'm a member of Audubon and donate to and visit the Corkscrew Sanctuary regularly. I like Florida's swamps. Big whoop.

But if it's an existing building, heck, that's awesome.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 24, 2025 01:39 PM (BjH5D)

438 An Iranian comeback has to be paid for and I doubt we're dropping pallets of cash anymore.
Posted by: Auspex at June 24, 2025 01:31 PM (j4U/Z)
_______________________

The theocracy has a decision to make. Continue printing money in order to rebuild militarily, or print money to address the long ignored infrastructure of Iran's people. Both paths lead to +50% inflation. Both result in the current Theocracy having some real big domestic problems. Iran in its current state is temporary (unless some jackass gets into the US Oval office and gives them a hand).

Posted by: Orson at June 24, 2025 01:39 PM (dIske)

439 433 Remember the video of the old white lady in Massachusetts crying because she might be next?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 01:37 PM (GBKbO)

I am not sure I can survive the stupids in 2025, but I will try. I knew they went insane in November 2024, but the condition seems to be terminal.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 24, 2025 01:39 PM (6PCLE)

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Lib Boomers believe everything CNN and MSNBC tells them.

We, on the other hand, make fun of Fox News.

So we've got that going for us.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 01:39 PM (GBKbO)

440 Their watches are nice enough, but a bit spendy for what they are. Better off buying a Hamilton Cooper Aviation.
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Hamilton makes some fine watches. I regret not buying one of the Hamilton Liberty watches back when they could be bought for under $600 new.

Posted by: Crusader at June 24, 2025 01:39 PM (TN0g+)

441 431 My therapist is Johnny Walker. Well, him and my old grandad.

And you drink alone...
Posted by: Cheerful Reprobate at June 24, 2025 01:38 PM (v+gTt)

YeeeeEEEAAAAAAAHHHHHHH with nobody else

Posted by: i prefer to be by myself at June 24, 2025 01:39 PM (TbWk/)

442 Remember the video of the old white lady in Massachusetts crying because she might be next?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 01:37 PM (GBKbO)

I am not sure I can survive the stupids in 2025, but I will try. I knew they went insane in November 2024, but the condition seems to be terminal.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 24, 2025 01:39 PM

This is MA...they were insane long before that.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 24, 2025 01:40 PM (kgE5c)

443 427 From Cynical Publius in American Greatness:

To preview succinctly, the Trump Doctrine consists of a series of business-like, iterative steps for all uses of American military force, and it performs as follows:

1. Identify America’s national interest.

2. Bargain with the prospective enemy.

3. If/when negotiations fail, conceal & misdirect.

4. Strike with precision and overwhelming force.

5. Achieve submission.

6. Bargain again (from a position of complete strength) with the defeated enemy.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 24, 2025 01:37 PM (Dv3i1)

This looks like an accurate perception and I agree with the strategy.

Posted by: Emmie at June 24, 2025 01:40 PM (rF2iL)

444 254 18-1 I am with you. The Leftists want Socialism and under Islam they can have it.
Posted by: Skip

PA has changed so much since C19; in that we've so many semi-transplanted from NYC and also NJ & DE.

Do you see it in your area? I see it in mine. And we can certainly in the NE part of the state. The streets are full of NY, NJ, DE licenses plates. (A few, but not most, are passing through on the roads.)

Loads of "affordable housing" has been purchased by those license plate holders and their extended families. They seem to go between their states of origin and PA, especially during elections, and also to "rent" many of those units from a day to months though they're neither AirBNB nor other rental source listed.

Many new owners/renters are clearly not the old time protestants, Jews, Roman Catholics, JWs, etc., nor are the lessees.

Newsweek, How the Left Fell in Love With Militant Islam | Opinion Published Apr 02, 2024, By Joseph Epstein
Analyst

Philly: The Mecca of the West.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 24, 2025 01:40 PM (NFX2v)

445 369 My therapist has been invaluable.
Posted by: WitchDoktor
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They can be. I am not arguing as far as universals that apply to everyone. Like religion, what works for you is good but the assumption that it works for everyone as a result is not.

In human affairs, we simply do not have certainty over why what might work for some, might not work for others. Why some people are susceptible to a malady while others are not. And whether talk therapy works or does not work.

We could try to answer some of these questions but that means the repugnant and cruel methods of operant conditioning for humans just like for animals. BF Skinner's work was replicable for example in a way that most human psychology studies fail to be. Reliance on bored freshman filling out surveys for extra credit in Psych 101 as a key insight on the human is flawed as was Kinsey using a sample filled with a convenience sample of perverts etc. to make generalizable comments about human sexuality.

So what works for a person should be continued but that does not mean that it can and should be extended to believe it works for everyone.

People ain't widgets.

Posted by: whig at June 24, 2025 01:41 PM (ctrM5)

446 From the Bee:

Obama Distraught As Trump Bombs Cool Nuke Factory He Paid For
Posted by: rickb223 at June 24, 2025 01:33 PM (3xZyM)

lol

Posted by: runner at June 24, 2025 01:41 PM (g47mK)

447 Bad day to be a roofer or part of an asphalt crew.

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2025 01:41 PM (VD3zn)

448 434 The only thing I have ever found to be a reliable solution to alleviate Depression is Exercise.

Posted by: garrett at June 24, 2025 01:39 PM (MmNOR)

THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELLS THEE! THE POWER O----

oh. Oh right. That too, I guess. Endorphins and whatnot.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 24, 2025 01:41 PM (BjH5D)

449 No barbed wire. No stockade. No watch tower. Only a magnetic shield, which prevents beaming. We are an island in the swamp.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 01:38 PM (GBKbO)

Reminds me of a fiction series, Prison Break, that I kept watching like a retard when my husband had enough. Two brothers who kept breaking out and then being imprisioned. Lots of murder and gore, which apparently I needed at the time. At one point I left as well as I felt UFO prisons were next. The one in South America is how I imagine a taste of the one in El Salvador, which I totally support as a destination.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 24, 2025 01:42 PM (6PCLE)

450 Lib Boomers believe everything CNN and MSNBC tells them.

We, on the other hand, make fun of Fox News.

So we've got that going for us.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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The era of big TV and big media is dying. What replaces it will be a smorgasbord of sources.

Posted by: whig at June 24, 2025 01:42 PM (ctrM5)

451 Well, a couple/few thousand Jews (all ages) immigrate to Israel each year, but many of us are already in our Homeland, the US.

The last time I was there - and it will be the last time there - they were throwing up apartments as fast as possible.

Posted by: Doug Roberts at June 24, 2025 01:42 PM (qnifE)

452 Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 24, 2025 01:40 PM (NFX2v)

I've certainly noticed a huge uptick in immigrants driving cars with PA plates, but I assumed that was due to a lack of vehicle inspection and/or no citizenship requirements to get a PA drivers license.

Or it's on par with the NJ temporary license plate scam.

I don't know, I've never cared enough to look in to it. North Carolina is another one. Lots of African immigrants have NC plates on their jalopies for some reason.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 24, 2025 01:43 PM (uCjyK)

453 >>The only lesson I ever saw any ball-player back in the day learn was that playing dress up and playing a game for applause beat the Hell out of finishing concrete or hanging drywall.

I wasn't allowed to play on the traveling / summer teams, even though I was always picked to be on them, was because Summer was for working.

Grandfather was a mason, father was a carpenter, uncles were plumbers, roofers, electricians and landscape/pavement.
And I was a slave to all of them until I turned 18.

Posted by: garrett at June 24, 2025 01:43 PM (MmNOR)

454 WNBA - With No Balls Association
Posted by: dantesed at June 24, 2025 01:05 PM (Oy/m2)

Mostly.

Posted by: Brittany Griner at June 24, 2025 01:43 PM (FCbAQ)

455 It's reportedly moving forward. DOJ and DHS bought in. The site was an old airport or prison, apparently.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at June 24, 2025 01:36 PM (paSBy)

Looked that up, interesting backstory. About 40 or 50 years ago some promoter thought up the idea of building a huge airport for all of the supersonic passenger and cargo jets that he thought were going to be flying back and forth across the Atlantic and that would be too big for ordinary airports. He envisioned this as a hub for them to come and go and transfer from there to the rest of the country. With state support, he got one big runway built - and then the entire plan collapsed. I think either the state or county has been using that landing strip in the middle of nowhere for pilot training, but not much else. So it just sits there, waiting for someone to do something with it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 24, 2025 01:43 PM (uWKK8)

456 Time to go spend the afternoon in the "not air conditioned tin box".

I have plenty of water with me to stay hydrated. Still going to be not-fun.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 24, 2025 01:43 PM (O7YUW)

457 450 The era of big TV and big media is dying. What replaces it will be a smorgasbord of sources.
Posted by: whig at June 24, 2025 01:42 PM (ctrM5)

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"Charles Foster Kane is a scoundrel. His paper should be run out of town. A committee should be formed to boycott him. You may, if you can form such a committee, put me down for a contribution of one thousand dollars. On the other hand, I am the publisher of the Inquirer! As such, it's my duty - and I'll let you in on a little secret, it's also my pleasure - to see to it that decent, hard-working people in this community aren't robbed blind by a pack of money-mad pirates just because - they haven't anybody to look after their interests."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 01:43 PM (GBKbO)

458 434 The only thing I have ever found to be a reliable solution to alleviate Depression is Exercise.

Posted by: garrett
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I would tend to agree. Movement over ennui.

Posted by: whig at June 24, 2025 01:44 PM (ctrM5)

459 ==============
The era of big TV and big media is dying. What replaces it will be a smorgasbord of sources.
Posted by: whig

AoSHQ, The Bee, Not The Bee

Posted by: rickb223 at June 24, 2025 01:44 PM (3xZyM)

460 447 Bad day to be a roofer or part of an asphalt crew.
Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2025 01:41 PM (VD3zn)
__________________________

Speaking from experience....not a good day to be on a rail road track demolition team either. Heat, sun, creosote, snakes, and prison work release guys. The latter being the least worrisome.

Posted by: Orson at June 24, 2025 01:44 PM (dIske)

461 The last time I was there - and it will be the last time there - they were throwing up apartments as fast as possible.
Posted by: Doug Roberts at June 24, 2025 01:42 PM (qnifE)

What I want to know is how the hell did they ingest entire apartments in the first place?

Posted by: The gastric contractor will see you now at June 24, 2025 01:44 PM (TbWk/)

462 I think either the state or county has been using that landing strip in the middle of nowhere for pilot training, but not much else. So it just sits there, waiting for someone to do something with it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 24, 2025 01:43 PM (uWKK

The NHRA know de wey...

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 24, 2025 01:44 PM (Jf0CV)

463 Okay may seem corny to some but my therapist is my faith. But on the other hand I don't have any real mental issues and no problems other than normal life problems .

Posted by: polynikes at June 24, 2025 01:44 PM (VofaG)

464 As such, it's my duty - and I'll let you in on a little secret, it's also my pleasure - to see to it that decent, hard-working people in this community aren't robbed blind by a pack of money-mad pirates just because - they haven't anybody to look after their interests."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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What made Kane rich and powerful was advertising. That is the dirty secret of the media--they work for who pays them.

Posted by: whig at June 24, 2025 01:45 PM (ctrM5)

465 Can anyone make the oil market make sense?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 24, 2025 01:45 PM (5wa80)

466 The only thing I have ever found to be a reliable solution to alleviate Depression is Exercise.

Posted by: garrett

The constraint is wanting to get out of bed in the first place.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 24, 2025 01:45 PM (XRUM5)

467 Lib Boomers believe everything CNN and MSNBC tells them.

We, on the other hand, make fun of Fox News.

So we've got that going for us.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 01:39 PM (GBKbO)

If it were not for mocking and sense of humor I would have gone batsheet during the long 8yrs of Barky, and then Bite Me. Seriously.

I still don't watch tv news or anything to prevent a stroke or insomnia. I lead a simple life of snark.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 24, 2025 01:45 PM (6PCLE)

468 Not all therapists are worthless cash vampires.

I have a friend who was going to therapy, and one day they were told "You know, if you just want to hang out, we can go hit up a happy hour. You don't have to keep paying for this. You really don't need me professionally anymore."

Honestly, I think those Good Ones get a good reputation, and so their schedule fills up quite easily, and they would much rather spend their professional hours helping people who really need it thank bilking someone out of money and wasting everyone's time.

The world isn't all scumbags and grifters. Mostly. But not all.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 24, 2025 01:45 PM (BjH5D)

469 Don't you understand, he wasn't smothering the chicken.

Posted by: Hawkeye Pierce at June 24, 2025 01:45 PM (OA79/)

470 Bobby Sherman died . He was 81. My parents got me an album of his when I was eight

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 24, 2025 01:45 PM (pwtJC)

471 I worked for a remodeler for a couple summers. He got a number of roofing jobs.

I don't remember there ever being a good day to be a roofer.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 24, 2025 01:45 PM (viF8m)

472 467 I still don't watch tv news or anything to prevent a stroke or insomnia. I lead a simple life of snark.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 24, 2025 01:45 PM (6PCLE)

========

Snark, like futball, is life.

But futball is also death.

But it is also life.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 01:46 PM (GBKbO)

473 The constraint is wanting to get out of bed in the first place.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 24, 2025 01:45 PM (XRUM5)

Just choose motivation and happiness, weakling.

Posted by: Tongue firmly in cheek at June 24, 2025 01:46 PM (TbWk/)

474 AoSHQ, The Bee, Not The Bee
Posted by: rickb223
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The Bee for predicting the future of leftist behavior, Not the Bee for the present news and AoSHQ for the hidden esoteric knowledge that will make you a knowledge ninja that devastates teh opposition at trivia competitions.

Posted by: whig at June 24, 2025 01:46 PM (ctrM5)

475 Probably also a bad day to work in a steel mill.

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2025 01:47 PM (VD3zn)

476 Okay may seem corny to some but my therapist is my faith.

Makes sense to me. Look - you and me don't get along. I don't think you see the world as hard or clear as I do.

But if religion makes it make sense to you ? Good for you.

Posted by: Doug Roberts at June 24, 2025 01:48 PM (qnifE)

477 Don't you understand, he wasn't smothering the chicken.
Posted by: Hawkeye Pierce at June 24, 2025 01:45 PM (OA79/)

Then came the crying. It's a comedy ya'll.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 24, 2025 01:48 PM (YUL+W)

478 So what works for a person should be continued but that does not mean that it can and should be extended to believe it works for everyone.

People ain't widgets.
Posted by: whig at June 24, 2025 01:41 PM (ctrM5)

Good therapists do not take a one size fits all approach for that very reason. I've had good and bad, and the good ones are those who've never ticked any boxes on a checklist.

It's basic standard of care.

I commented because of the very broad brush I saw here about how it's all a racket, how patients are encouraged to continue indefinitely, etc etc.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 24, 2025 01:48 PM (XRUM5)

479 465 Can anyone make the oil market make sense?
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 24, 2025 01:45 PM (5wa80)

It can be bewildering, but honestly if you know what you're going to use it for, start there. Lighter oils for frying and high heat. Heavier "cold pressed" oils for flavoring and dressing.

If you want a good deep frying oil, look for peanut if you're not allergic.

Oh. Petroleum? Yeah, fuck nah, that shit's all rigged. Might as well ask someone to make the roulette wheel make sense.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 24, 2025 01:48 PM (BjH5D)

480 474 AoSHQ, The Bee, Not The Bee
Posted by: rickb223
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The Bee for predicting the future of leftist behavior, Not the Bee for the present news and AoSHQ for the hidden esoteric knowledge that will make you a knowledge ninja that devastates teh opposition at trivia competitions.
Posted by: whig at June 24, 2025 01:46 PM (ctrM5)

I’ve enjoyed powerline blog, but they’re going to a VIP system…

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at June 24, 2025 01:48 PM (Mxf84)

481 Are there still ice houses? Because it would be a good day to work in one of those.

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2025 01:49 PM (VD3zn)

482 I got up early today to go to a dental appointment, got a temporary crown for my broken tooth

Now half my head is numb and I feel miserable.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 24, 2025 01:49 PM (dfIr7)

483 It can be bewildering, but honestly if you know what you're going to use it for, start there. Lighter oils for frying and high heat. Heavier "cold pressed" oils for flavoring and dressing.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 24, 2025 01:48 PM (BjH5D)

I've been phasing out seed oils for a while now, and I don't love the smoke point of olive oil, so I've been using a lot of ghee and/or lard/ tallow the last few years.

I'd recommend it, it definitely does make everything taste better and a little bit goes a long way.

As far as crude oil, I only drink the sweet stuff -- Brent oil from the middle east.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 24, 2025 01:50 PM (uCjyK)

484 >>I don't remember there ever being a good day to be a roofer.

Once we were doing a roof for a Hungarian Actress and her husband (Chef/Restaurant Owner)...
humping shingles up the ladder one morning, I luckily glanced through the window to see the Mrs coming out of the shower. She waved.
On my way down, she opened the window and asked if we would like coffee. Still naked.

She was the only good thing about roofing.

Posted by: garrett at June 24, 2025 01:50 PM (MmNOR)

485 Are there still ice houses? Because it would be a good day to work in one of those.
Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2025 01:49 PM (VD3zn)

What, cutting ice out of lakes and packing it in sawdust for use throughout the year? No. You can go work at a slaughterhouse, they hang meat in freezers, right?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 24, 2025 01:50 PM (YUL+W)

486 473 The constraint is wanting to get out of bed in the first place.
Posted by: WitchDoktor
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Tough place to be. Do what works for you and what makes you happy.

City Slickers is a mostly humorous and forgettable bit of fluff but Jack Palance's character is correct when you have to figure out yourself what is most important to you in life. A cloud of depression often obscures that important observation.

Posted by: whig at June 24, 2025 01:51 PM (ctrM5)

487 465 Can anyone make the oil market make sense?
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 24, 2025 01:45 PM (5wa80)

They always make perfect sense, if you understand the most important factor that is driving them.
Right now, they're dropping because Trump said it will be fine for China to buy Iranian oil again, which implies the sanctions are about to be dropped.
China was already buying Iranian oil, but now the US is going to quit complaining about it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 24, 2025 01:51 PM (uWKK8)

488 I found sone good content. Wing Feather.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 24, 2025 01:51 PM (5wa80)

489 Ice Cream Taster. This weather would be perfect for that line of work.

Posted by: Doug Roberts at June 24, 2025 01:51 PM (qnifE)

490 Snark, like futball, is life.

But futball is also death.

But it is also life.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 01:46 PM (GBKbO)

I am the person you do not want to make eye contact with. In any solumn situation if something funny happens. Once I start laughing it is downhill from there. The snicker turns into near death suppression until I either control it somehow or leave to prevent choke death.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 24, 2025 01:51 PM (6PCLE)

491 Are there still ice houses? Because it would be a good day to work in one of those.

It's always cold inside the icehouse
Though the rivers never freeze
There's a girl outside the icehouse
I can see her clearly though the trees
And now she's dreaming of a new love
And she hopes he'll be there soon
But she's got so long to wait for him

I have never understood that song, I'm not sure its supposed to make sense. Sounds nice though

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 24, 2025 01:51 PM (dfIr7)

492 Once we were doing a roof for a Hungarian Actress and her husband

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Zsa Zsa Gabor !

Posted by: runner at June 24, 2025 01:52 PM (g47mK)

493 486 City Slickers is a mostly humorous and forgettable bit of fluff but Jack Palance's character is correct when you have to figure out yourself what is most important to you in life. A cloud of depression often obscures that important observation.
Posted by: whig at June 24, 2025 01:51 PM (ctrM5)

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I will defend City Slickers as a wonderful portrait of masculinity given life to breathe free within the strangling constraints of the modern world.

It is the more positive version of Fight Club.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 01:52 PM (GBKbO)

494 Are there still ice houses? Because it would be a good day to work in one of those.
Posted by: Weasel

Houston has a bunch of bars they call "Ice House".
But yes. There are still true ice houses. In most every major city. That's who fills those bagged ice boxes outside of gas stations.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 24, 2025 01:52 PM (3xZyM)

495 481 - Ice houses? Just about every Amish house has one ...

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 24, 2025 01:52 PM (Z5NUn)

496 Once we were doing a roof for a Hungarian Actress

Zsa Zsa Gabor?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 24, 2025 01:52 PM (dfIr7)

497 Posted by: Doug Roberts at June 24, 2025 01:48 PM (qnifE

Nobody sees the world as clearly and as hard as you do, Scogg, and nobody needs as many handles as you do to tell people that directly or indirectly

Oops my addiction to ASHQ took over. I apologize

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 24, 2025 01:52 PM (2GCMq)

498 you have to figure out yourself what is most important to you in life

If the answer is "that it end" maybe you're in a bad place.

Posted by: Might be a clue at June 24, 2025 01:53 PM (TbWk/)

499 You wanna know the secret of life?

Tell me.

This.

Your finger.

One thing. Just one thing. You figure that out the rest of the world don't mean shit.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 24, 2025 01:53 PM (YUL+W)

500 I can't spell worth a tinker's damn today in my mood. I do wish I could correct spelling, but whatever! Adios.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 24, 2025 01:53 PM (6PCLE)

501 Bad day to be a roofer or part of an asphalt crew.
Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2025 01:41 PM (VD3zn)

Not out of the norm in the Houston area but what really helped me when I play or work in 90+ degree days is a product called flexifreeze. It is a neck wrap that you put in a flexible frozen water strip. Lasts for about 20-30 minutes and you can just put in another one as needed. Of course you have to have your cooler where you keep the replacements.

Posted by: polynikes at June 24, 2025 01:53 PM (VofaG)

502 What, cutting ice out of lakes and packing it in sawdust for use throughout the year? No. You can go work at a slaughterhouse, they hang meat in freezers, right?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 24, 2025 01:50 PM

Ice from the lake up the road used to end up in Australia back in the day. The parents found that amusing when they were there.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 24, 2025 01:53 PM (kgE5c)

503 It is the more positive version of Fight Club.

I agree, its a great movie. One of the last ones out of Hollywood that condemned city weakness and praised rural masculinity.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 24, 2025 01:53 PM (dfIr7)

504 499 You wanna know the secret of life?

Tell me.

This.

Your finger.

One thing. Just one thing. You figure that out the rest of the world don't mean shit.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 24, 2025 01:53 PM (YUL+W)

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Every rose has its thorn
Just like every night has its dawn
Just like every cowboy sings a sad, sad song

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 01:53 PM (GBKbO)

505 447 Bad day to be a roofer or part of an asphalt crew.
Posted by: Weasel

Yes, it is and OSHA has guidelines for that. osha dot gov: Heat Stress Guide
Overview: Working in Outdoor and Indoor Heat Environments

Unfortunately, they're way beyond incompetent when it comes to documenting potential violations and employing the General Duty Clause of the OSHAct.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 24, 2025 01:53 PM (NFX2v)

506 475 Probably also a bad day to work in a steel mill.
Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2025 01:47 PM (VD3zn)

Or cutting, dragging, and hauling brush.

Posted by: Eromero at June 24, 2025 01:53 PM (LHPAg)

507 The lace wigs and hammer spam are about to show up ...

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 24, 2025 01:53 PM (2uKh/)

508 Tough place to be. Do what works for you and what makes you happy.

City Slickers is a mostly humorous and forgettable bit of fluff but Jack Palance's character is correct when you have to figure out yourself what is most important to you in life. A cloud of depression often obscures that important observation.
Posted by: whig at June 24, 2025 01:51 PM (ctrM5)

It's not something that can be dismissed by a thought of what is important.

Put another way, when I was sitting at my desk after having grabbed my Glock 17, what was important to me was putting a bullet in my head.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 24, 2025 01:53 PM (XRUM5)

509 I’ve enjoyed powerline blog, but they’re going to a VIP system…
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at June 24, 2025 01:48 PM (Mxf84)

I only go there for the week in pictures.

If I try to load their site on a phone, you can almost hear them saying "Fuck You" out loud with the number of pop ups and floats and ad banners and crazy ass .css based horsecrap they fling at you.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 24, 2025 01:54 PM (BjH5D)

510 503 It is the more positive version of Fight Club.

I agree, its a great movie. One of the last ones out of Hollywood that condemned city weakness and praised rural masculinity.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 24, 2025 01:53 PM (dfIr7)

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Marred by a less than stellar sequel.

But the original is kind of great.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 01:54 PM (GBKbO)

511 509 If I try to load their site on a phone, you can almost hear them saying "Fuck You" out loud with the number of pop ups and floats and ad banners and crazy ass .css based horsecrap they fling at you.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 24, 2025 01:54 PM (BjH5D)

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*whistles innocently*
-the AoSHQ front page

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 01:54 PM (GBKbO)

512 The one and only time I went to a therapist, he tried to implicate my parents in my issues and I was like, FTS, and I’ve never been to one since.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 24, 2025 01:55 PM (XV/Pl)

513 You wanna know the secret of life?

Tell me.

This.

Your finger.

One thing. Just one thing. You figure that out the rest of the world don't mean shit.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 24, 2025 01:53 P

Wrong! Conan?

Posted by: Mongol General at June 24, 2025 01:55 PM (kgE5c)

514 500 I can't spell worth a tinker's damn today in my mood. I do wish I could correct spelling, but whatever! Adios.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 24, 2025 01:53 PM (6PCLE)M

Mood? Mood is a thing for cattle and love-play, not spelling!

Posted by: Gurney Halleck, sort of at June 24, 2025 01:55 PM (TbWk/)

515 About ready for second breakfast.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 24, 2025 01:55 PM (5wa80)

516 483 It can be bewildering, but honestly if you know what you're going to use it for, start there. Lighter oils for frying and high heat. Heavier "cold pressed" oils for flavoring and dressing.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 24, 2025 01:48 PM (BjH5D)

I've been phasing out seed oils for a while now, and I don't love the smoke point of olive oil, so I've been using a lot of ghee and/or lard/ tallow the last few years.

I'd recommend it, it definitely does make everything taste better and a little bit goes a long way.

As far as crude oil, I only drink the sweet stuff -- Brent oil from the middle east.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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I dropped cooking with most of the vegetable oils aka corn oil, soybean oil, and especially canola years ago.

Pretty much olive oil and avocado oil with peanut oil for baking things like brownies.

Ghee for high temps in certain things like frying a steak (rare for me) or lard for pie crusts (very rare for me to do nowadays--usually graham cracker or some such instead of the traditional piecrust.

Posted by: whig at June 24, 2025 01:55 PM (ctrM5)

517 City Slickers was hilarious on my first viewing.

City Slickers 2 should have never been made. Like Caddy Shack 2.

Posted by: polynikes at June 24, 2025 01:55 PM (VofaG)

518 Every rose has its thorn
Just like every night has its dawn
Just like every cowboy sings a sad, sad song
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 01:53 PM (GBKbO

You son of a bitch. Now I'm going to have Poison stuck in my head all night. Fuck you, buddy!

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 24, 2025 01:56 PM (YUL+W)

519 nood!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 24, 2025 01:56 PM (Z5NUn)

520 If I try to load their site on a phone, you can almost hear them saying "Fuck You" out loud with the number of pop ups and floats and ad banners and crazy ass .css based horsecrap they fling at you.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 24, 2025 01:54 PM (BjH5D)

The ads have really gone off the deep end over the last month or so. Also, you won’t be able to comment if you’re not a VIP. No word yet if you can view the comments if you’re just a peon.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at June 24, 2025 01:56 PM (Mxf84)

521 518 Every rose has its thorn
Just like every night has its dawn
Just like every cowboy sings a sad, sad song
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 01:53 PM (GBKbO

You son of a bitch. Now I'm going to have Poison stuck in my head all night. Fuck you, buddy!
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 24, 2025 01:56 PM (YUL+W)

========

Excellent!

*air guitar*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 24, 2025 01:56 PM (GBKbO)

522 whig gets it ... same here at Chateau D'Eez

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 24, 2025 01:57 PM (Z5NUn)

523 I rather suspect that his "both sides" anger is an act. He knew damned well that the mullahs were going to break the cease-fire first. Tossing some anger towards Israel as well sets him up as the honest peacemaker when the mullahs finally capitulate.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 24, 2025 12:34 PM (y9nCu)

This is my take too. A little performance art from Trump to smooth the really sharp edges.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 24, 2025 01:57 PM (g8Ew8)

524 The lace wigs and hammer spam are about to show up

Speaking of spam, I rejoined Twitter a few months back to try to promote my books some more. It hasn't increased sales yet but I am shocked at the gigantic tsunami of bots and spam accounts. THey see to fall into 3 categories:

1) Fake accounts of people, mostly Musk
2) Fake bimbos who post nothing but retweets and try to DM you
3) Fake "lottery winners" and "billionaires" who claim they will pay bills and and out money.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 24, 2025 01:58 PM (dfIr7)

525 >>Once we were doing a roof for a Hungarian Actress and her husband (Chef/Restaurant Owner)...
humping shingles up the ladder one morning,

I saw a crew doing a house in my neighborhood a few weeks ago. They had some elevator type gizmo attached to a ladder and it brought the shingles up to the roof.

We didn't have those fancy things all the kids are using these days. I was the elevator.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 24, 2025 01:58 PM (viF8m)

526 512 The one and only time I went to a therapist, he tried to implicate my parents in my issues and I was like, FTS, and I’ve never been to one since.
Posted by: Thomas Bender
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Unfortunately, scapegoating does work for some people as does avoidance when one's parents are toxic damaged people.

Preconceptions of what is wrong with a patient is a major problem with medical providers and why a lot of people fall through the cracks until they find the right one.

Posted by: whig at June 24, 2025 01:58 PM (ctrM5)

527 Put another way, when I was sitting at my desk after having grabbed my Glock 17, what was important to me was putting a bullet in my head.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 24, 2025 01:53 PM (XRUM5)

I cheated.

I chickened out. And then said to myself, "Well, OK. The only thing holding you back was that you didn't want other people to be hurt. So now, you only live for other people. There's no you anymore. None of the bullshit clattering around in your stupid head makes a bit of difference anymore because You are dead. Now shut up and go to bed so you can get to work in the morning."

It actually worked.

I'm not so important that I get the luxury of hurting my family or friends just because i've worked myself up into a tizzy over the futility of existence or any of the horrible shit i've done.

Kill yourself, so you can live for others.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 24, 2025 01:59 PM (BjH5D)

528 506 475 Probably also a bad day to work in a steel mill.
Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2025 01:47 PM (VD3zn)

Or cutting, dragging, and hauling brush.
Posted by: Eromero

Baking, food processing, landscaping, chicken picking - any work when it's this hot, as it is Regionally.

Water, shade, rest breaks in cooled areas, etc.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 24, 2025 02:00 PM (NFX2v)

529 Put another way, when I was sitting at my desk after having grabbed my Glock 17, what was important to me was putting a bullet in my head.
Posted by: WitchDoktor
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As I said, depression can obscure what is truly important to you. So you treat the depression first so you can get to the other.

Posted by: whig at June 24, 2025 02:01 PM (ctrM5)

530 Good day to work cherry harvest in the packing shed. They keep the temperature a little above freezing, so you have to dress for winter to work. 10 hour days straight through till done. I am very happy I don't do that any more.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 24, 2025 02:03 PM (AcTAo)

531 Put another way, when I was sitting at my desk after having grabbed my Glock 17, what was important to me was putting a bullet in my head.
Posted by: WitchDoktor
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As I said, depression can obscure what is truly important to you. So you treat the depression first so you can get to the other.
Posted by: whig at June 24, 2025 02:01 PM (ctrM5)

And while you're not wrong, I wasn't interested in getting treatment. I wanted the pain to disappear and it was the only reasonable path to take. Depression is that severe. It's a dark passenger (to borrow from Dexter) that sits behind you all the time.

Anyway, point is communicated. Thanks W.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 24, 2025 02:04 PM (XRUM5)

532 Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 24, 2025 01:59 PM (BjH5D)

Been there for the first half, my friend. I never got to the second half of deciding I was already dead. I'm glad you got through it.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 24, 2025 02:05 PM (XRUM5)

533 When I picked apples, they said we could call it a day if it hit 106. Of course, there wasn't really a way to tell. They always thought I was going to pass out because I wore sun screen and looked pale.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 24, 2025 02:05 PM (AcTAo)

534 Posted by: Baseball done wrong at June 24, 2025 01:29 PM (TbWk/)

Clearly you never had a decent coach. That's a shame.

Posted by: NC Ref at June 24, 2025 02:22 PM (HIRLq)

535 The only thing I have ever found to be a reliable solution to alleviate Depression is Exercise.

Posted by: garrett at June 24, 2025 01:39 PM (MmNOR)

garrett I always knew you were a smart fkr. I got to D1 back in the day too, in another sport, and am fighting depression now, but I know that I need to get back into daily exercising. Thank you friend.

Posted by: NC Ref at June 24, 2025 02:28 PM (HIRLq)

536 Yay, Jeb!

Posted by: m at June 24, 2025 02:41 PM (CQE5S)

537 I'd have chosen the Italians because did the Jews invent pizza and spaghetti?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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Since 98%+ of them have been Italian, you can look at the Pope as sort of a consolation prize.

Posted by: buddhaha at June 24, 2025 02:46 PM (4ETSN)

538 This sure seems like Trump is playing good cop due to heat from the MAGA base. Sixth dimensional chess?

Perhaps!

Posted by: TheMewTwix at June 24, 2025 02:47 PM (2P8sI)

539 We aren't the "pacifist" wing, we simply do not trust our unelected 4th branch - the intel agency staff and state department low levels.

I even think these folks are rendering Israel's government defunct right now with government officials undermining Netanyahu, etc.

We gotta have War™!

You guys can go grab a weapon and head downrange like many of us did. For nothing except the enrichment of lobbyists.

Posted by: Danimal28 at June 24, 2025 03:14 PM (klw0w)

540 The M.S. Media Bottom Feeders hide the truth from us all the Time

Posted by: Spurwing Plover at June 24, 2025 06:26 PM (wGqjj)

541 fuck it

Posted by: andycanuck at June 24, 2025 08:07 PM (2yoRf)

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