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Democrats Call for Trump's Impeachment Over Iran Bombing, Refuse to Explain Why They Previously Supported Obama and Hillary Clinton Bombing Muslim Countries Without Congressional Authorization
AOC hit the stupid wall at birth, but now she's hitting the looks wall at about 170 mph.
I don't think this bozo is going to be able to command attention based only on the quality of her thinking.Progressive champion Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and a handful of other Democrats quickly floated the prospect of impeaching President Donald Trump for launching a military strike on Iran without Congressional authorization. "The President's disastrous decision to bomb Iran without authorization is a grave violation of the Constitution and Congressional War Powers," the four-term congresswoman from New York wrote on social media Saturday night, soon after the president announced the attack on Iran's nuclear facilities. Ocasio-Cortez charged that Trump "has impulsively risked launching a war that may ensnare us for generations. It is absolutely and clearly grounds for impeachment."If Rand Paul and Thomas Massie want to demand congressional authorization, that's fine. They demand congressional authorization for both Democrat and Republican military actions. But I won't hear it from this crew:
Democrat Rep. Sean Casten of Illinois also argued that the president's order to bomb Iran's nuclear sites without seeking Congressional approval could be considered an "unambiguous impeachable offense." Casten, a four-term representative whose district covers southwestern Chicago and surrounding suburbs, wrote Saturday night on social media that "this is not about the merits of Iran's nuclear program....to be clear, I do not dispute that Iran is a nuclear threat." But he highlighted that "no president has the authority to bomb another country that does not pose an imminent threat to the US without the approval of Congress. This is an unambiguous impeachable offense."
"I'm not saying we have the votes to impeach," Casten added. "I'm saying that you DO NOT do this without Congressional approval." The calls for impeachment are the most visible, and furthest reaching, representation of the party's anger with Trump for taking unilateral action against Iran. House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries of New York, the top Democrat in the chamber, wrote that the president had "failed to seek congressional authorization for the use of military force and risks American entanglement in a potentially disastrous war in the Middle East." "Donald Trump shoulders complete and total responsibility for any adverse consequences that flow from his unilateral military action," Jeffries added in a statement. While the executive branch technically doesn't have the legal authority to order a foreign military attack without the approval of Congress, previous presidents, including Bill Clinton, Barack Obama and Trump during his first term, launched comparable military actions in Libya, Sudan, Afghanistan and Iran.
Some are wondering if Trump will get a poll boost out of this. I think he will, and not just because he did something good. I think he'll get a poll boost because more Americans will wake up and see that no matter what Trump does, the Democrat-Media Party will find some disgracefully partisan way to attack him. I think their obsessive-compulsive viciousness will become apparent to more people, and more people will actually see Trump as sympathetic, besieged constantly by nasty, stupid, incompetent lunatics.
All of this venting reveals very short memories on the port side of Capitol Hill. Fourteen years ago, they couldn't get enough of presidential strikes on a nation in the very same region. Remember Hillary Clinton's chortling over the fall of Moammar Qaddafi and the role she and Barack Obama played in it? "We came, we saw, he died," she raved to Leslie Stahl after a joint US-EU bombing campaign decapitated Qaddafi's regime, and left a failed state in its wake... In March 2011, Obama ordered a series of military strikes on regime targets in Libya, not because of a clear and present danger to US security or assets, but because of a "responsibility to protect" doctrine promoted by Samantha Power. The Qaddafi regime was brutally suppressing dissent at the time, as Qaddafi had done for decades, but Qaddafi had also cooperated with the West on nuclear non-proliferation. Nevertheless, Obama and the Left wanted Qaddafi gone, and without going to Congress conducted military attacks with the express purpose of collapsing his regime in favor of the rebels in and around Benghazi -- a bitter irony, in the end. Obama never even bothered to formally report the action to Congress, as required under the War Powers Act, with the lame excuse that he ordered the strikes to support the action led by NATO. At the time, Harold Koh argued that the War Powers Act didn't apply because of the limited nature of the conflict -- which had been going on for three months at that point -- and the administration's interpretation of the word "hostilities" in the act. As long as US ground troops weren't involved, Koh argued, the president had full authority and no responsibility to notify Congress at all. Democrats then blocked a Republican effort to order the end of Obama's use of military assets in the operation.
Meanwhile, the Democrat-Media Party rallies for yet another fascist tyranny dedicated to the destruction of America:
LIVE: Liberals have rallied for yet another protest, this time “Hands off Iran Protest”
— Wall Street Apes (@WallStreetApes) June 22, 2025
Where do they all get professionally made matching signs in less than 24 hours?!?
Just think about this, liberals are defending Iran now… IRAN. A country that literally wants us all dead pic.twitter.com/AlTePsxS1B
The Democrat-Media traitors can't stop flying foreign flags in the US while claiming to be fighting to save America.
So let me get this straight…
— Matt Van Swol (@matt_vanswol) June 22, 2025
Two months ago, we had Ukrainian flags everywhere.
A month ago we had Palestinian flags everywhere.
A week ago we had Mexican flags everywhere.
Now we have Iranian flags everywhere.
What the hell is going on?????pic.twitter.com/owgA6YjIRu
The current thing…
— @amuse (@amuse) June 23, 2025
h/t @TheDamaniFelder pic.twitter.com/cvsDXTEL7j
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 23, 2025 04:46 PM (Splbu)
Posted by: Corona exile-back_in_exile at June 23, 2025 04:47 PM (qHgX8)
Posted by: A pawn in game of life. at June 23, 2025 04:47 PM (Ef4Ak)
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 23, 2025 04:47 PM (Splbu)
Kyle Cheney
@kyledcheney
BREAKING: Supreme Court permits Trump administration to resume third country removals — like deportations to Sudan — without limited notice.
6-3 with Soromayor, Kagan and Jackson dissenting.
https://x.com/kyledcheney/status/
1937248200022216863
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While the left focuses on Garcia, human trafficker, Trump keeps deporting at least 2000 people per day.
And that's not counting self-deportations.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 04:48 PM (GBKbO)
US protestors on US soil defending Iran is complete bizzaro world. Of course we've seen Gays for Palestine so it can get very strange.
Posted by: Frank Barone at June 23, 2025 04:48 PM (IifOV)
Posted by: Corona exile-back_in_exile at June 23, 2025 04:49 PM (qHgX8)
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Oh, poll as in p-o-l-l and not pole as in p-o-l-e. Never mind.
Posted by: Mayor Pete at June 23, 2025 04:49 PM (dIske)
Posted by: toby928 at June 23, 2025 04:50 PM (jc0TO)
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Her nose is getting the middle-age spread.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 23, 2025 04:50 PM (Dv3i1)
If he cured cancer they'd find a Biden judge to give cancer back to people.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 23, 2025 04:51 PM (t0Rmr)
I wish DataRepublican would also tell us who's running ANSWER Coalition.
Posted by: Crusader at June 23, 2025 04:51 PM (TN0g+)
As long as you pay them, the protestor class doesn't really care what signs they are supposed to hold and they will wave just about any Flag that isn't the Stars and Stripes.
Posted by: garrett at June 23, 2025 04:51 PM (MmNOR)
I think he'll get a poll boost because more Americans will wake up and see that no matter what Trump does, the Democrat-Media Party will find some disgracefully partisan way to attack him.
I think their obsessive-compulsive viciousness will become apparent to more people, and more people will actually see Trump as sympathetic, besieged constantly by nasty, stupid, incompetent lunatics.
I see it as an exact parallel to the very rapid shift in the zeitgeist discussed in the BBC thread. Once enough people point out the lunacy, there is a very strong preference cascade to a more sane position. The Dems haven't figure this out yet, and if they don't, they're looking at annihilation.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 23, 2025 04:51 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 23, 2025 04:52 PM (2GCMq)
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Her nose is getting the middle-age spread.
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On a good day, she *was* an Applebee's 7.
Posted by: Crusader at June 23, 2025 04:52 PM (TN0g+)
Posted by: ... at June 23, 2025 04:52 PM (E0p3T)
US protestors on US soil defending Iran is complete bizzaro world. Of course we've seen Gays for Palestine so it can get very strange.
Posted by: Frank Barone at June 23, 2025 04:48 PM (IifOV)
What?
Posted by: chickens for KFC at June 23, 2025 04:52 PM (ULPxl)
Two months ago, we had Ukrainian flags everywhere.
A month ago we had Palestinian flags everywhere.
A week ago we had Mexican flags everywhere.
Now we have Iranian flags everywhere.
What the hell is going on?????
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Protestors are clearly in the pocket of Big Flag.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 23, 2025 04:52 PM (7fElN)
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 23, 2025 04:52 PM (e5NfL)
This is going beyond virtue signaling (Ukranian flags). To wave the flag of a self affirming enemy of the US is completely bonkers. It's seditious in my book.
Posted by: Frank Barone at June 23, 2025 04:52 PM (IifOV)
Posted by: huerfano at June 23, 2025 04:52 PM (n2swS)
Should've bought stock in Kinko's, apparently.
Posted by: LizLem at June 23, 2025 04:52 PM (Eng1Z)
Posted by: ... at June 23, 2025 04:53 PM (E0p3T)
As long as you pay them, the protestor class doesn't really care what signs they are supposed to hold and they will wave just about any Flag that isn't the Stars and Stripes.
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For a price I'll do about anything, except pull the trigger--for that I need a pretty good cause.
Posted by: Geoff Tate at June 23, 2025 04:53 PM (TN0g+)
Posted by: 18-1 at June 23, 2025 04:53 PM (t0Rmr)
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A pawn in the game of life.
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Would you please consider getting another nic?
Having multiple nics like yours and mine is confusing and I think it's somewhat frowned upon.
You seem new so it shouldn't be a big deal.
If you regulars agree with this would you please help me out with this.
I'm not here all the time.
Thanks in advance.
Posted by: pawn, the original at June 23, 2025 04:53 PM (fkuu7)
*hic*
Posted by: Erudite progressive debate captain at June 23, 2025 04:54 PM (tM/2C)
They're that stupid.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 23, 2025 04:54 PM (Q4IgG)
I think he'll get a poll boost because more Americans will wake up and see that no matter what Trump does, the Democrat-Media Party will find some disgracefully partisan way to attack him.
I think their obsessive-compulsive viciousness will become apparent to more people, and more people will actually see Trump as sympathetic, besieged constantly by nasty, stupid, incompetent lunatics.
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I think it's simpler than that.
"Trump made a big boom against a far away country I'm told is bad. No boots on ground. Big victory."
The kind of voters who move back and forth on these kinds of issues for a week aren't deep thinkers.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 23, 2025 04:54 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Mo at June 23, 2025 04:54 PM (bwmOi)
Posted by: ... at June 23, 2025 04:54 PM (E0p3T)
East."
"Donald Trump shoulders complete and total responsibility for any adverse consequences that flow from his unilateral military action," Jeffries added in a statement.
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"And we will labor diligently to provide those adverse consequences," says the 'man' who was too busy fudgepacking to take a legally required 2am phone call from the White House.
Posted by: Hakeem Jeffries at June 23, 2025 04:55 PM (ES1Rb)
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 23, 2025 04:55 PM (F75UF)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 04:55 PM (qDLvI)
Cattle with tattoos.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 23, 2025 04:55 PM (F75UF)
Repeat customers.
Posted by: Planned Parenthood at June 23, 2025 04:56 PM (PiwSw)
http://tiny.cc/tjsn001
Posted by: bonhomme at June 23, 2025 04:56 PM (lIio7)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 04:56 PM (qDLvI)
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Gentlemen, let's not start zucking each other's socks just yet?
Posted by: Harvey K at June 23, 2025 04:57 PM (tM/2C)
--Everybody has a share!
Posted by: Milo Minderbinder at June 23, 2025 04:57 PM (QQ0oH)
http://tiny.cc/tjsn001
She still looks fine to me.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 23, 2025 04:57 PM (Riz8t)
Has he issued a statement? Or is he MIA like Iran's leader?
Posted by: Anna Puma
Easy. He doesn't have the staff he used to have to compose a message for him.
Posted by: Auspex at June 23, 2025 04:57 PM (j4U/Z)
Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at June 23, 2025 04:57 PM (EPu1v)
The only waitress that brings nothing to the table.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 04:57 PM (5WDkb)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! at June 23, 2025 04:58 PM (xG4kz)
To some degree, that’s based on the fact that usually what your guy is doing, you agree with, but what the other guy is doing, you don’t. I think Trump was right to bomb Iran. I think Obama was a gay homo softbrain to take out Quaddafi.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 23, 2025 04:58 PM (jIc/M)
As long as you pay them, the protestor class doesn't really care what signs they are supposed to hold and they will wave just about any Flag that isn't the Stars and Stripes.
Posted by: garrett at June 23, 2025 04:51 PM (MmNOR)
Trump should outbid the Dems and have them out doing Maga demonstrations.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 23, 2025 04:58 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: Corona exile-back_in_exile at June 23, 2025 04:47 PM (qHgX
The won't surprise anyone, but the Tacoma Dome had the Juneteenth flag on display last week, under the American flag. It also has flown the pride flag, the transgender flag, and an orange flag for awareness of gun violence.
I'm amazed they still fly the American flag, tbh.
Posted by: LizLem at June 23, 2025 04:58 PM (Eng1Z)
Has he issued a statement? Or is he MIA like Iran's leader?
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 04:55 PM (qDLvI)
Who?
Posted by: The DNC, pretending 2020-2024 didn't happen at June 23, 2025 04:58 PM (PiwSw)
Posted by: Still lurking up north, read some, don't comment much at June 23, 2025 04:58 PM (kTd/k)
I mean, I wouldn't kick her out of bed for spilling oats out of her feedbag or anything...
Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at June 23, 2025 04:58 PM (JCZqz)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 04:57 PM
Haha! Yessssss
Posted by: Ed McMahon at June 23, 2025 04:58 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 23, 2025 04:59 PM (pwtJC)
She still looks fine to me.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 23, 2025 04:57 PM (Riz8t)
She's wearing a fairly blowsy top and you can't see how fat her arms are getting.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at June 23, 2025 04:59 PM (/HDaX)
http://tiny.cc/tjsn001
She still looks fine to me.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 23, 2025 04:57 PM (Riz8t)
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Heavy filters in that video, though.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 23, 2025 04:59 PM (jIc/M)
EVERY SINGLE military action since that date has been taken without war authorization.
And I'm not just talking about Obama's Actions, or Bush's actions, Clinton's bombings, but all the way back to Vietnam and Korea.
80 years of almost continuous military strikes, actions, battles, wars, bombings, etc. -- never once with a declaration of war.
Bay of Pigs Invasion? Nope?
Bombing Serbia in the '90s? Nope.
Vietnam War escalation by LBJ? Nope.
Etc. etc. etc. ad infinitum? Nope.
Posted by: zombie at June 23, 2025 05:00 PM (pMi6S)
http://tiny.cc/tjsn001
She still looks fine to me.
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I don't believe that's a recent video.
Posted by: Crusader at June 23, 2025 05:00 PM (TN0g+)
Having multiple nics like yours and mine is confusing and I think it's somewhat frowned upon.
You seem new so it shouldn't be a big deal.
If you regulars agree with this would you please help me out with this.
I'm not here all the time.
Thanks in advance.
Posted by: pawn, the original at June 23, 2025 04:53 PM (fkuu7)
a mudbug in the game of life.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 23, 2025 05:00 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: LizLem at June 23, 2025 05:01 PM (Eng1Z)
http://tiny.cc/tjsn001
She still looks fine to me.
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I don't believe that's a recent video.
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concur, that looks a decade old
Posted by: runner at June 23, 2025 05:01 PM (g47mK)
Posted by: Tinfoil Dispenser at June 23, 2025 05:01 PM (ERYKL)
Posted by: Crusader at June 23, 2025 05:00 PM (TN0g+)
From her Sanders tour Elites against Oligarchy...oops, thats US I think.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 23, 2025 05:01 PM (8avO+)
Quit letting totally straight Cory Booker peg you and answer the damn phone when POTUS calls you.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 05:02 PM (5WDkb)
I'm amazed they still fly the American flag, tbh.
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If I was a governor I'd order the Diver Down flag to be flown on the Anniversary date of that Van Halen album's release...
Posted by: Crusader at June 23, 2025 05:02 PM (TN0g+)
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concur, that looks a decade old
She's added a few coloring books since then.
Posted by: Tinfoil Dispenser at June 23, 2025 05:02 PM (ERYKL)
http://tiny.cc/tjsn001
Posted by: bonhomme
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Ah, she owns the LeBron James Collection of Classic Literature!
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 23, 2025 05:02 PM (sAmhv)
Posted by: zombie at June 23, 2025 05:00 PM (pMi6S)
I don't think Reagan had authorization for Grenada either/
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 23, 2025 05:03 PM (BvTfc)
Posted by: Still lurking up north, read some, don't comment much at June 23, 2025 05:03 PM (kTd/k)
It will take a while to understand the fears are unwarranted (assuming they are.)
So long term, a poll boost. Trump is clarifying his doctrine (Jacksonian) and solving long term problems.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at June 23, 2025 05:03 PM (QQ0oH)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 23, 2025 05:03 PM (alnxS)
Posted by: Frasier Crane at June 23, 2025 05:04 PM (bNf8H)
Posted by: cherries in season at June 23, 2025 05:04 PM (Z4eZ1)
Posted by: Frank Barone at June 23, 2025 04:48 PM (IifOV)
I remember tying yellow ribbons around things during the end of Carter's term.
Posted by: Ki0ndltot at June 23, 2025 05:04 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 23, 2025 05:04 PM (alnxS)
Ace, that is an outstanding example of a pleonastic expression!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 23, 2025 05:04 PM (0sNs1)
I don't think Reagan had authorization for Grenada either/
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 23, 2025 05:03 PM (BvTfc)
Wanted to be quick to get the students safe. A few accidents aside, achieved its goals.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 23, 2025 05:05 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: It's me donna at June 23, 2025 05:06 PM (VE6XX)
EVERY SINGLE military action since that date has been taken without war authorization.
And I'm not just talking about Obama's Actions, or Bush's actions, Clinton's bombings, but all the way back to Vietnam and Korea.
80 years of almost continuous military strikes, actions, battles, wars, bombings, etc. -- never once with a declaration of war.
Bay of Pigs Invasion? Nope?
Bombing Serbia in the '90s? Nope.
Vietnam War escalation by LBJ? Nope.
Etc. etc. etc. ad infinitum? Nope.
Posted by: zombie at June 23, 2025 05:00 PM
Yep, not even a vote on the "war on terror" after 9/11. congress just passed and bush signed the aumf which most definitely let's Trump do exactly what he did over the weekend without having to ask anyone for authorization.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 23, 2025 05:06 PM (e5NfL)
kinda like actually printing sand-emptying instructions on boot heels, innit?
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 23, 2025 05:06 PM (alnxS)
Posted by: International Flag Production Company at June 23, 2025 05:06 PM (mP0Kj)
Well, half of them, at least. It's a coalition.
Posted by: Bibi Netanyahu at June 23, 2025 05:06 PM (/GaVB)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 05:07 PM (qDLvI)
Posted by: Mister Scott
And they had almost 24 years to repeal it, except Clinton, Obola & Shitpants loved being able to use that.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 05:07 PM (5WDkb)
Jonathan Turley has a piece out about this Congressional Authorization stuff vs. the Article II powers.
He believes POTUS needs approval for "offensive action", but as he points out, it's settled that he doesn't. He argued the case back during the Libya attacks during Barky and Hillary "we came, we saw, he died" action brought by some congresscritters then.
He lost that case. It's settled law, as they say.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 23, 2025 05:07 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 23, 2025 05:07 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: Donnie Two Scoops at June 23, 2025 05:08 PM (tM/2C)
Posted by: eleven at June 23, 2025 05:08 PM (fV+MH)
Posted by: It's me donna at June 23, 2025 05:06 PM (VE6XX)
She's looking anorexic.
Posted by: Still lurking up north, read some, don't comment much at June 23, 2025 05:08 PM (kTd/k)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 23, 2025 05:08 PM (alnxS)
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Quit letting totally straight Cory Booker peg you and answer the damn phone when POTUS calls you.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 05:02 PM
Objection! Assumes facts not in evidence, specifically that Jeffries is the peggee, and not the pegger.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 23, 2025 05:08 PM (0sNs1)
jeepers, whats that clawing-at-the-microphone thing she's doing?
way mega-creepy!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez
Exactly. To what type of station was she referring? A "Help! I've Been Bricked Up In A Wall" station?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! at June 23, 2025 05:08 PM (xG4kz)
Posted by: It's me donna at June 23, 2025 05:06 PM (VE6XX)
Yeah, and the Second Assistant to the Vice Undersecretary of the Department of Weights and Measures says Arianna Grande should eat a fucking sandwich.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 23, 2025 05:08 PM (BjH5D)
Burn the heretic!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 23, 2025 05:08 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 05:08 PM (qDLvI)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 23, 2025 05:09 PM (pwtJC)
Posted by: Ripley at June 23, 2025 05:09 PM (kE5ra)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 23, 2025 05:09 PM (2GCMq)
Posted by: It's me donna
What kind of punishment did Ariana get for licking donuts and putting them back? That's worse than anything Trump has ever done.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 23, 2025 05:09 PM (Dv3i1)
Posted by: WisRich at June 23, 2025 05:09 PM (G0vdT)
Posted by: Mongo at June 23, 2025 05:09 PM (Ef4Ak)
Posted by: Still lurking up north, read some, don't comment much at June 23, 2025 05:09 PM (kTd/k)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 23, 2025 05:09 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: Crusader
You're just watching them for the articles, right?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 23, 2025 05:10 PM (mlg/3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBh5SdkPVXk
Posted by: LizLem at June 23, 2025 05:01 PM (Eng1Z)
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There's a "Juneteenth" flag? Did not know.
I guess it competes for air waving time with the Mexican, Palestine, Ukraine, Iran, BLM, and Rainbow flags...
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 23, 2025 05:10 PM (aeyG4)
And boot in Syria.
THOSE are invasions...
Trump bombs 3 Nuc plants from the Air, with surgical strikes, does not escalate... no boots on the ground...
WARMONGER!!!
Posted by: International Flag Production Company at June 23, 2025 05:10 PM (mP0Kj)
Keith Olbermann@KeithOlbermann
Trump started his war on Iran because he's lost America: new polling shows his approval UNDERWATER in FIFTEEN states he WON last November. And now he wants regime change too. New Countdown podcast at midnight eastern
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 23, 2025 05:10 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: Representative Nobody (D-Fake Ballotonia) at June 23, 2025 05:10 PM (47/pr)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 05:11 PM (qDLvI)
Posted by: WisRich at June 23, 2025 05:09 PM (G0vdT)
As usual it's temporary so they better start shipping them out ASAP
Posted by: It's me donna at June 23, 2025 05:11 PM (VE6XX)
*only based on what I've heard about KJB. No direct knowledge of this particular case.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 23, 2025 05:11 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: It's me donna at June 23, 2025 05:06 PM (VE6XX)
Yeah, and the Second Assistant to the Vice Undersecretary of the Department of Weights and Measures says Arianna Grande should eat a fucking sandwich.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 23, 2025 05:08 PM (BjH5D)
Pretty girl, and I note all her tatoos are, on her BACK? Where she can't even see them? Just don't understand the logic of liking tatoos so much you have a bunch, but then put them in places you can't even see?
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 23, 2025 05:12 PM (mP0Kj)
Dec. 8 was only Japan.
Posted by: Anna Puma
OK, true -- December 11, 1941 was the last time we declared war on someone.
Posted by: zombie at June 23, 2025 05:12 PM (pMi6S)
Wasn't that just a "police action"?
Or that is the phrase I recall. Those probably all had nicknames that came short of "All Out War".
Posted by: illiniwek at June 23, 2025 05:12 PM (vbXSk)
Trump 47 is more of a challenge with Ukraine and all, but solving the Iran problem is a very big deal -- The last real win the USA had was the fall or USSR.
Worse for the Left, he seems to be making headway on Ukraine. Or, at least people are coming around to his position that it is unwinable based on their current definitions of victory and that it was a massive screwup to let it start.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at June 23, 2025 05:12 PM (QQ0oH)
* for some value of RINO.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 23, 2025 05:13 PM (0sNs1)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 23, 2025 05:13 PM (pwtJC)
Posted by: Crusader
You're just watching them for the articles, right?
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And the Pigskin Previews...
Posted by: Crusader at June 23, 2025 05:13 PM (TN0g+)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2025 05:14 PM (qDLvI)
Trump 47 is more of a challenge with Ukraine and all, but solving the Iran problem is a very big deal -- The last real win the USA had was the fall or USSR.
Worse for the Left, he seems to be making headway on Ukraine. Or, at least people are coming around to his position that it is unwinable based on their current definitions of victory and that it was a massive screwup to let it start.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at June 23, 2025 05:12 PM (QQ0oH)
*sobs*
Posted by: Miss Lindsey at June 23, 2025 05:14 PM (ULPxl)
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Well let's think, who would be in a position to see them....
Posted by: Things that make you go hmmmmm at June 23, 2025 05:14 PM (tM/2C)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 23, 2025 05:14 PM (L/fGl)
* for some value of RINO.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 23, 2025 05:13 PM (0sNs1)
So, finally ripping off her mask?
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 23, 2025 05:14 PM (mP0Kj)
At first I thought it was a joke, but no, they're serious. It has a painting of her and everything.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 23, 2025 05:14 PM (aeyG4)
The War Powers Act doesn't require prior Congressional approval, only that POTUS must NOTIFY Congress of the use of military force. And it also puts a 60 day time limit on that use of force without Congressional approval.
Wiki:
"The War Powers Resolution requires the president to notify Congress within 48 hours of committing armed forces to military action and forbids armed forces from remaining for more than 60 days, with a further 30-day withdrawal period, without congressional authorization for use of military force (AUMF) or a declaration of war by the United States."
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 23, 2025 05:15 PM (y9nCu)
The guy giving her a vigorous buggering can.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 23, 2025 05:15 PM (ejGl1)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 23, 2025 05:15 PM (zZu0s)
I thought the Republican's controlled the Senate? What am I missing here?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 23, 2025 05:16 PM (/U5Yz)
Good investment, Mitch.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 23, 2025 05:16 PM (viF8m)
* for some value of RINO.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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And right when a big vote is looming, and every vote has to be bought.
What a shock.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at June 23, 2025 05:16 PM (8AONa)
I'll bet she was happier before she got recruited to be a congress critter.
On the other I know nothing.
Posted by: Still lurking up north, read some, don't comment much at June 23, 2025 05:17 PM (kTd/k)
Wait, does every holiday get its own flag now? Or only the ones that can be used to divide Americans by race and/or sex organ status?
Posted by: Oddbob at June 23, 2025 05:17 PM (/y8xj)
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Good investment, Mitch.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 23, 2025 05:16 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: Mitch McConnell at June 23, 2025 05:17 PM (ULPxl)
At first I thought it was a joke, but no, they're serious. It has a painting of her and everything.
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Let me guess, the whites pay double the posted price, the minorities pay half the posted price, and the illegals pay nothing at all but will still stage a protest there?
Posted by: Crusader at June 23, 2025 05:17 PM (TN0g+)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 23, 2025 05:13 PM (0sNs1)
So, finally ripping off her mask?
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 23, 2025 05:14 PM (mP0Kj)
Her patron, Mitch, doesn't have the juice that he once did. Murky cleared her nose to catch the scent of some easy campaign cash
Posted by: mrp at June 23, 2025 05:17 PM (rj6Yv)
And right when a big vote is looming, and every vote has to be bought.
What a shock.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at June 23, 2025 05:16 PM (8AONa)
She was voting against it anyway
Posted by: It's me donna at June 23, 2025 05:17 PM (VE6XX)
Posted by: Mitch McConnell, who totes won 2 of KY's Bluest Counties in last election at June 23, 2025 05:17 PM (0sNs1)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 23, 2025 05:17 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: It's me donna at June 23, 2025 05:06 PM (VE6XX)
She's looking anorexic.
Posted by: Still lurking up north, read some, don't comment much at June 23, 2025 05:08 PM (kTd/k)
She and that other person that played the wicked witch are suffering from competitive anorexia or something. Folie a duex
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 23, 2025 05:17 PM (BvTfc)
The pisser over all of this is that Trump called a hit without kissing the House and Senates ass.
The pisser over all of this is that - if the House and Senate were consistent - Trump has indeed stepped over the line.
The line that got stepped over for ten fucking years in Vietnam. Five years in Korea.
Oh ... and Thomas Massee is pissed about it. He's technically right. He's also Rand Paul clueless about how shit has worked his entire life.
Posted by: Ed Hall at June 23, 2025 05:17 PM (J1vfd)
* for some value of RINO.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 23, 2025 05:13 PM
She won't switch, if she does her career is voer and she knows it.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 23, 2025 05:18 PM (e5NfL)
https://mol.im/a/14838901
Posted by: Ciampino - nice going FJB at June 23, 2025 05:18 PM (sPQoU)
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CRS has compiled a list of all military actions including declarations of war. Well over one hundred dating back to the 1790's with France.
"Instances of Use of United States Armed Forces Abroad, 1798-2023" CRS R42738
https://tinyurl.com/ypvwrp4t
The US has never been a pacifist nation per se. This list also excludes fights with Native tribes and internal insurrection invocations like the Whisky Rebellion.
Posted by: whig at June 23, 2025 05:18 PM (ctrM5)
You add violent acts to that though, and you're flirting with a defacto declaration of "Enemy Belligerent" status. See here at congress.gov (there's a 52 page PDF linked on the web page):
https://tinyurl.com/4n7ztrmy
Detention of U.S. Persons as Enemy Belligerents
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 23, 2025 05:18 PM (O7YUW)
If Congress wants to stop the President from conducting war, they can via the power of the purse. It's all on them vs the executive branch.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 23, 2025 05:18 PM (w6EFb)
http://tiny.cc/tjsn001
She still looks fine to me.
Soon...
Posted by: The Wall at June 23, 2025 05:18 PM (GTqXr)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 23, 2025 05:18 PM (pwtJC)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 23, 2025 05:18 PM (y9nCu)
Wait, does every holiday get its own flag now? Or only the ones that can be used to divide Americans by race and/or sex organ status?
Posted by: Oddbob at June 23, 2025 05:17 PM
They started with the ribbons for aids and I still don't know anyone that's not aware of cancer or whatever they're waving their flags for this week.
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 23, 2025 05:19 PM (BvTfc)
She went to Princeton , so given she's a Latino woman I am not surprised they would do that. On the other hand, Pete Hegseth went to Princeton as well. They'll never put up a picture of him, but not everyone who graduated from Princeton is a left wing nut.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 23, 2025 05:19 PM (2GCMq)
Raise your fucking hand if you elected the "Senate Parliamentarian"
I didn't.
Posted by: Ed Hall at June 23, 2025 05:19 PM (J1vfd)
Posted by: Maj. Healey
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Byrd rule and reconciliation. You either kill the filibuster entirely or have to play by the rules on budget bills dictated by the Budget Act of 1974.
Posted by: whig at June 23, 2025 05:20 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: Philosomoron at June 23, 2025 05:20 PM (0sNs1)
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 23, 2025 05:20 PM (uWKK8)
It is very much worth listening to, at least about the second half where he talks about what they did in 2020 and how they stopped it in 2024.
Ask me and I will look for a link. His name was something like baumbiggen with a lot of letters and some were B's.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at June 23, 2025 05:21 PM (QQ0oH)
I didn't.
Posted by: Ed Hall
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Those are the current Senate rules, you can use the nuclear option but getting rid of it would require nuking the filibuster entirely.
Posted by: whig at June 23, 2025 05:21 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: Philosomoron at June 23, 2025 05:20 PM (0sNs1)
because that's what it was designed to do.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 23, 2025 05:21 PM (uWKK8)
Posted by: Still lurking up north, read some, don't comment much at June 23, 2025 05:21 PM (kTd/k)
Wait, does every holiday get its own flag now? Or only the ones that can be used to divide Americans by race and/or sex organ status?
Posted by: Oddbob at June 23, 2025 05:17 PM (/y8xj)
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Yes
Posted by: Ciampino - Llama flag? at June 23, 2025 05:21 PM (sPQoU)
Posted by: Philosomoron at June 23, 2025 05:20 PM (0sNs1)
Squirrel fuckery be the point, laddie.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 23, 2025 05:22 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 23, 2025 05:22 PM (NXz8h)
They're the minority. Most people, from Princeton ? The Ivy League ?
Yankee self entitled pain in the asses.
Posted by: Ed Hall at June 23, 2025 05:22 PM (J1vfd)
Posted by: Still lurking up north, read some, don't comment much at June 23, 2025 05:21 PM (kTd/k)
And a crack whore. Yeah.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 23, 2025 05:22 PM (zZu0s)
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AOC has discovered the secret to shelves staying up: don't put stuff on them. Ace take note.
Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at June 23, 2025 05:23 PM (eb5mD)
I'll bet she was happier before she got recruited to be a congress critter.
On the other I know nothing.
Posted by: Still lurking up north, read some, don't comment much at June 23, 2025 05:17 PM (kTd/k)
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She was/still is? CIA.
Posted by: Ciampino - Llama flags at June 23, 2025 05:23 PM (sPQoU)
Posted by: Still lurking up north, read some, don't comment much
Crack whore from the trailer park.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 23, 2025 05:23 PM (/U5Yz)
Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at June 23, 2025 05:23 PM (2myyY)
Posted by: Smell the Glove
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She also was employed by AID abroad for a time.
Posted by: whig at June 23, 2025 05:23 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: Ed Hall at June 23, 2025 05:22 PM
Another fine pleonastic expression!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 23, 2025 05:24 PM (0sNs1)
Posted by: Still lurking up north, read some, don't comment much at June 23, 2025 05:21 PM (kTd/k)
Remember the picture of Dianne Feinstein "talking" to Murkowski against the wall during the Kavanaugh hearings? DiFi looked like she was shaking down Murkowski for her lunch money....
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 23, 2025 05:24 PM (PiwSw)
I mean, I wouldn't kick her out of bed for spilling oats out of her feedbag or anything...
Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at June 23, 2025
***
"We'll stay up all night, swappin' manly stories. And then in the mornin', I'm makin' waffles!"
( -- The Donkey)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 23, 2025 05:24 PM (omVj0)
The won't surprise anyone, but the Tacoma Dome had the Juneteenth flag on display last week...
Wait, does every holiday get its own flag now? Or only the ones that can be used to divide Americans by race and/or sex organ status?
Posted by: Oddbob at June 23, 2025 05:17 PM (/y8xj)
The Steak and BJ Day Flag is a set of Kate Beckinsales' used panties.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 23, 2025 05:24 PM (y9nCu)
Wiki:
"The War Powers Resolution requires the president to notify Congress within 48 hours of committing armed forces to military action and forbids armed forces from remaining for more than 60 days, with a further 30-day withdrawal period, without congressional authorization for use of military force (AUMF) or a declaration of war by the United States."
Posted by: IllTemperedCur
They gave it to him. Back in 2001.
Authorization for Use of Military Force of 2001
The Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF; Pub. L. 107–40 115 Stat. 224) is a joint resolution of the United States Congress which became law on September 18, 2001, authorizing the use of the United States Armed Forces against those responsible for the September 11 attacks.
Since its passage in 2001, U.S. presidents have interpreted their authority under the AUMF to extend beyond al Qaeda and the Taliban in Afghanistan to apply to numerous other groups as well as other geographic locales, d
Posted by: rickb223 at June 23, 2025 05:24 PM (nHyMR)
Posted by: Still lurking up north, read some, don't comment much at June 23, 2025 05:21 PM (kTd/k)
No, she's the one who looks like a spawned-out pink salmon, otherwise known as a "humpy." And trust me, even the dogs won't eat humpies.
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 23, 2025 05:24 PM (a4NoL)
Posted by: Still lurking up north, read some, don't comment much at June 23, 2025 05:21 PM (kTd/k)
And a crack whore. Yeah.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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Scuttlebutt is that Lisa Murcow liked her cocaine back the in day.
Posted by: whig at June 23, 2025 05:24 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 23, 2025 05:24 PM (qgNn3)
Posted by: steevy at June 23, 2025 05:24 PM (YwEeS)
Posted by: whig at June 23, 2025 05:21 PM (ctrM5)
Then nuke it.
Again ... the shit we were taught, about the House and Senate, is bullshit. The Senate is not the "cooling saucer". Its were really shitty politicians go to fleece the country.
Senators should be appointed, and recalled, by their own state. The older generations - Silents - screwed the pooch by voting to directly elect them.
Posted by: Ed Hall at June 23, 2025 05:25 PM (J1vfd)
Posted by: Guess who at June 23, 2025 05:25 PM (tM/2C)
Good investment, Mitch.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 23, 2025 05:16 PM
The tattoo talk upthread gave me a good idea, instead of the nascar patches on the congresscritters they should be forced to have visible tattoos of their paymasters.
Roger Stone has the best non visible tattoo and I can't believe it's real.
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 23, 2025 05:25 PM (BvTfc)
Posted by: steevy at June 23, 2025 05:24 PM (YwEeS)
Now that he didn't chicken out he must be impeached !
Posted by: It's me donna at June 23, 2025 05:25 PM (VE6XX)
He should embrace their new effort to impeach him just because he is Trump.... Pad that Impeachment Stat! Let it rip!
Go full on GANGSTA! Tell the Courts to F off!
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 23, 2025 05:25 PM (mP0Kj)
Really? Apparently Hakeem the Dream doesn't know that the US Trump, and only US Trump, gets all his powers and permissions from Hawaiian District Court Judges. He should up his complaint with them.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 23, 2025 05:26 PM (NXz8h)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 23, 2025 05:26 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: Philosomoron at June 23, 2025 05:20 PM (0sNs1)
Squirrel fuckery be the point, laddie.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 23, 2025 05:22 PM (zZu0s)
Giving people backing losers extra votes is a bad idea from square 1.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 23, 2025 05:26 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at June 23, 2025 05:26 PM (NtVYv)
Posted by: Philosomoron
Game theory based on Cordocet's work. Basically when you have more than a binary choice, the least preferred candidate can win quite often. Ranked choice voting makes it worse and this is intentionally so the Uniparty assholes can retain office with a plurality or less of votes rather than a majority.
Posted by: whig at June 23, 2025 05:27 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: steevy at June 23, 2025 05:24 PM (YwEeS)
I seem to remember Obama drawing lines in the sand and then drawing new ones when the first were crossed.
Posted by: Still lurking up north, read some, don't comment much at June 23, 2025 05:27 PM (kTd/k)
Posted by: whig at June 23, 2025 05:21 PM (ctrM5)
Then nuke it.
Again ... the shit we were taught, about the House and Senate, is bullshit. The Senate is not the "cooling saucer". Its were really shitty politicians go to fleece the country.
Senators should be appointed, and recalled, by their own state. The older generations - Silents - screwed the pooch by voting to directly elect them.
Posted by: Ed Hall at June 23, 2025 05:25 PM (J1vfd)
You don't have to Nuc it... just go back to the original Filibuster rules where all Business was stopped, while a Filibuster was in session. They changed it in the 70's to a Silent Filibuster... which meant there was no cost to doing it... no effort needed...
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 23, 2025 05:27 PM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: It's me donna
I'm suddenly in favor of 'high speed rail.'
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 23, 2025 05:27 PM (mlg/3)
All they can do is spit and rage and concede the stage to a global force of nature in the person of Donald J. Trump.
Posted by: mrp at June 23, 2025 05:27 PM (rj6Yv)
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 23, 2025 05:28 PM (BvTfc)
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Let's not be hasty. Who said anything about cutting off funding? That is NEVER on the table!
Posted by: Congress at June 23, 2025 05:28 PM (wrInX)
A similarly pointless political theater play when be to arrest a boatload of UniParty drones for Treason. The specific charge would be support of a nation (Iran) thqt we have been at war with for over forty years, Congress not recipicating notwithstanding plain meanings of words.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 23, 2025 05:28 PM (/lPRQ)
Posted by: Rex B at June 23, 2025 05:28 PM (/NHpO)
Posted by: steevy
Heh!
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 23, 2025 05:28 PM (sAmhv)
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It is Trumps superpower. He makes his enemies say and do what they must not. Then capitalizes. Its a biblical superpower. Not wielded by man since Moses. Useful.
Posted by: Not hyperbole at June 23, 2025 05:29 PM (tM/2C)
No, she's the one who looks like a spawned-out pink salmon, otherwise known as a "humpy." And trust me, even the dogs won't eat humpies.
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 23, 2025 05:24 PM (a4NoL)
The ones whose flesh literally rots while they're swimming back to the sea after spawning, yes?
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 23, 2025 05:29 PM (y9nCu)
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 23, 2025 05:24 PM (PiwSw)
Remember that her dad was a notorious coward. He ran home to Alaska as soon as the planes hit the towers and never went back. Instead, he appointed his daughter to his post and "retired." She is just a chip off that particular block. She is so timid that she avoids meeting anyone that isn't prescreened, and she doesn't represent anybody up here except the rabid abortion supporters (who apparently own her, lock stock and barrel) and some few of the Natives who are on welfare.
She also lied about not running if primaried (she was, by Joe Miller, and then ran as an "independent"). And then rank choice voting cheating and voila; lifetime Lisa.
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 23, 2025 05:29 PM (a4NoL)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 23, 2025 05:29 PM (y9nCu)
Yep. Big humpy backs, big hooked upper jaws with teeth sticking out of them, just plain ugly and used up.
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 23, 2025 05:30 PM (a4NoL)
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That matters. She's all they've got. The rest look like Joy Behar.
While we have a very deep bench.
Posted by: Eeyore at June 23, 2025 05:30 PM (od0dV)
Posted by: steevy at June 23, 2025 05:24 PM (YwEeS)
I seem to remember Obama drawing lines in the sand and then drawing new ones when the first were crossed.
Posted by: Still lurking up north, read some, don't comment much at June 23, 2025 05:27 PM (kTd/k)
CREASE. IN. PANTS. mic drop
Posted by: David Brooks at June 23, 2025 05:31 PM (eb5mD)
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 23, 2025 05:28 PM (BvTfc)
Waiting for the boom
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at June 23, 2025 05:31 PM (NtVYv)
Meh ... don't care. It makes sense, on its face. Except for the idea where both parties will cheat their collective asses off.
And they do. Except for the part where they decide Ross Perot is the most dangerous threat to Democracy and pass McCain / Feingold.
We should shit-can primaries. Let the two parties just go smoke cigs, fuck, and nominate a piece of shit candidate after a week-long party. And then vote for someone else.
Posted by: Ed Hall at June 23, 2025 05:31 PM (J1vfd)
He then turns around and takes nukes off the table with Iran.
The most important war in the world, Ukraine and Russia, has been relegated to the back burner, and, in fact, it's possible a diplomatic solution may be reached over the next few months.
Then there is real wage and job growth at home with the trade deficit being reduced and money coming in from tariffs. Bilateral trade agreements being worked out in what appears to be record time. Inflation appears to be tamed.
No wonder the left is screaming hysterically at the Next Big Thing! President Trump have a ton of success, which means they've got nothing other than histrionics.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 23, 2025 05:31 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: whig
Or if you prefer: it is voter fraud masquerading as a voting scam blessed as legal by the self-dealing shits in power who directly benefit from it. Plus it is a lot cheaper than election fortification schemes.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 23, 2025 05:31 PM (NXz8h)
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 23, 2025 05:28 PM (BvTfc)
Maybe he should eat more fiber?
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 23, 2025 05:31 PM (a4NoL)
She's got to be kidding me. Is she truly unaware that the entire US foreign policy since WWII has ignored such formalities as declaring war and not attacking countries we're not at war with?
I happen to disagree with the way we fight wars vehemently, and would love a return to some level of constitutional normalcy but I mean, cmon...
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 23, 2025 05:32 PM (uCjyK)
We will exchange Lisa Murkowski for John Fetterman, and a 1st round pick in 2026.
Posted by: Frank Barone at June 23, 2025 05:32 PM (IifOV)
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What, the “Jack off Iran" slogan was available?
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 23, 2025 05:32 PM (UHpaa)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 23, 2025 05:29 PM (y9nCu)
They die in the river after spawning
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at June 23, 2025 05:32 PM (NtVYv)
Posted by: Eeyore at June 23, 2025 05:33 PM (od0dV)
Is Murkowski the one who looks like a chain smoker?
Posted by: Still lurking up north, read some, don't comment much at June 23, 2025 05:21 PM (kTd/k)
And a crack whore. Yeah.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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Scuttlebutt is that Lisa Murcow liked her cocaine back the in day.
Posted by: whig at June 23, 2025 05:24 PM (ctrM5)
Obligatory blast from the AoS past
https://tinyurl.com/nwj2pyus
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 23, 2025 05:33 PM (y9nCu)
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at June 23, 2025 05:33 PM (QSrLX)
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 23, 2025 05:33 PM (ZOv7s)
Good investment, Mitch.
Posted by: JackStraw
The Arlen Specter gambit. Let's see if it works out for her!
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 23, 2025 05:33 PM (sAmhv)
Open non-partisan RCV primary -> Final two-way runoff
Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 23, 2025 05:33 PM (Dj0Qv)
Posted by: toby928 at June 23, 2025 05:34 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: runner at June 23, 2025 05:34 PM (g47mK)
See Arrow's Impossibility Theorem. Basically, for a "group choice function", there is no system that can be perfectly "rational" (defined in a certain way) even if all individual actors of the group are rational.
So, that sets off an attempt to find the best such choice function (ie voting system).
My conclusion about all this is the Two-Party system is the best. Present the public with a binary final choice, and have all the messy disputes in either of the two parties. This time around, it was MAGA taking over the RINOs, war inside the Republican Party.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 23, 2025 05:34 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
Nah, Slow news week.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 23, 2025 05:34 PM (sAmhv)
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 23, 2025 05:28 PM (BvTfc)
Waiting for the boom
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at June 23, 2025 05:31 PM
I hate when I forget about the launches. I usually will watch from my yard but by the time you hear it it's kind of too late and it takes me a few seconds to figure out if it's a missile or an earthquake.
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 23, 2025 05:34 PM (BvTfc)
Posted by: Philosomoron
The most recent Berkeley Mayor election in Nov. 2024 is a good example of that. In the first round of counting, Sophie Hahn was leading with 53% of the vote over two also-rans, but then (just as in Philadelphia and other corrupt precincts) late ballots "trickled in" throughout the night and someone magically were ALL against her, until she was just under 50% for an outright victory. So then they defaulted down to counting "ranked choice" votes, and somehow the third-place candidate, a complete random nobody that had` practically zero name recognition and a failed non-campaign somehow managed to get elevated past the other also-ran and also past the frontrunner with impossible-to-deciper "ranked choice" calculations, and now this random nobody is the new mayor. It's completely absurd and corrupt.
Posted by: zombie at June 23, 2025 05:34 PM (pMi6S)
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 23, 2025 05:33 PM (sAmhv)
I just involuntarily thought "Come onnnnnn, cancer!"
...
I'm going to hell.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 23, 2025 05:34 PM (BjH5D)
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Her nose is getting the middle-age spread.
Posted by: Chuck Martel
......
Her lips are painted Kelley Moore red, interior high gloss enamel.
Posted by: wth at June 23, 2025 05:34 PM (UjdFS)
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at June 23, 2025 05:35 PM (NtVYv)
Not to mention the Federal Judges Clause. The last person you want running the country is the President.
Posted by: t-bird at June 23, 2025 05:35 PM (wrInX)
This is why she's takes every opportunity to upset the apple cart.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 23, 2025 05:35 PM (ioEI6)
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at June 23, 2025 05:35 PM (NtVYv)
Posted by: Still lurking up north, read some, don't comment much at June 23, 2025 05:27 PM (kTd/k)
And then Obama went to Congress to ask for permission to "strike ISIS in Syria", and Congress said no, so he did it anyways.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 23, 2025 05:35 PM (uCjyK)
Okay, AOC, you made the assertion, now provide supporting facts.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 23, 2025 05:35 PM (tT6L1)
@kyledcheney
BREAKING: Supreme Court permits Trump administration to resume third country removals — like deportations to Sudan — without limited notice.
6-3 with Soromayor, Kagan and Jackson dissenting.
https://x.com/kyledcheney/status/
1937248200022216863
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While the left focuses on Garcia, human trafficker, Trump keeps deporting at least 2000 people per day.
And that's not counting self-deportations.
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[fires up "Closing Time"]
[yells out the chorus "BUT YOU CAN'T STAY HERE!"]
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 23, 2025 05:36 PM (iGnx1)
Many of these "better voting systems" boil to down to choosing consensus. Pick the option that pisses off the least number of people.
Now, that is the best if the group choice is something like, say what should the menu be for our annual convention.
When it's important, life and death choices that have to be made, that consensus sucks. You have to "roll the hard six". If a bare majority can be found for a binary choice, that's better than a "piss off the least number of people" choice.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 23, 2025 05:36 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed A
The hot girl was at the cannibis store when I went to get edibles.
That was sweet. Knows my name.
Posted by: Stateless.. 41% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 23, 2025 05:36 PM (jvJvP)
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
......
Khamenei was seen at Taco Bell ordering a Burrito Supreme.
Posted by: wth at June 23, 2025 05:37 PM (UjdFS)
I blame 1920s men. They were weak. Incredibly weak. WW I wasn't THAT fucking bad.
Posted by: Ed Hall at June 23, 2025 05:37 PM (J1vfd)
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 23, 2025 05:33 PM (ZOv7s)
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Nah, you're good, grampa. Hit the recliner for another nap. We'll wake you if something important comes along.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 23, 2025 05:37 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 23, 2025 05:35 PM (tT6L1)
AOC, let me ass you a question
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at June 23, 2025 05:37 PM (NtVYv)
It shifts power from the candidates and also away from disruptive positions that voters want. It also allows a lot more fraud due to complexity and electronic nature.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at June 23, 2025 05:37 PM (QQ0oH)
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All the rage darling. It's called Baboon chic!!!!
Posted by: Anderson Pooper at June 23, 2025 05:37 PM (tM/2C)
*Excepting Al Green and the other habitual House Members who file articles of impeachment against Trump for no reasons.
Posted by: Gref at June 23, 2025 05:37 PM (aBgBM)
Posted by: Still lurking up north, read some, don't comment much at June 23, 2025 05:38 PM (kTd/k)
I seem to remember Obama drawing lines in the sand and then drawing new ones when the first were crossed.
Bugs Bunny and Yosemite Sam
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 23, 2025 05:38 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 23, 2025 05:38 PM (alnxS)
Posted by: toby928 at June 23, 2025 05:39 PM (jc0TO)
Plays the first 30 seconds of "Fortunate Son."
Also, laughed for like five minutes yesterday.
Scene is the beach, everyone is looking at the sky, it's a formation of US fighter jets and bombers.
Someone in the crowd gasp, "what are they chasing, they're following something!"
Zoom in.
It's Jesus in sunglasses, riding a Bald Eagle, holding an American Flag.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 23, 2025 05:39 PM (iGnx1)
Posted by: Still lurking up north, read some, don't comment much at June 23, 2025 05:38 PM (kTd/k)
Body double!
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 23, 2025 05:39 PM (BjH5D)
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WHY ARE YOU ASKING ME THAT QUESTION!!!!!
Posted by: Lisa Murkowski at June 23, 2025 05:40 PM (tM/2C)
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Continuous h@tred of half the country will do that to ya.
Posted by: Gref at June 23, 2025 05:40 PM (aBgBM)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 23, 2025 05:40 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 23, 2025 05:40 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: Still lurking up north, read some, don't comment much
......
Time for a nose ring?
Posted by: wth at June 23, 2025 05:40 PM (UjdFS)
No, she was always crazy, stupid and a shrew. That poor goofball she was seen in public with a few years ago has probably the same level of intimate knowledge of her as I do.
Posted by: Nelly at June 23, 2025 05:41 PM (cHLus)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 23, 2025 05:41 PM (pwtJC)
Posted by: toby928 at June 23, 2025 05:39 PM (jc0TO)
Homey ... hence why we were pounded, in our heads, from school that the United States was so stable because we adopted the "two party system".
Its bullshit. We are seeing the bullshit. Neither party gives two shits. But they're damn sure that there will only be two parties.
On this ... the Republicans and Democrats agree.
Posted by: Ed Hall at June 23, 2025 05:41 PM (J1vfd)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 23, 2025 05:31 PM (NXz8h)
It also encourages splinter 'one cause' parties that can sell their members' optional votes to other parties corruptly.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 23, 2025 05:41 PM (8avO+)
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All the rage darling. It's called Baboon chic!!!!
Posted by: Anderson Pooper at June 23, 2025 05:37 PM (tM/2C)
Just so everyone is aware of it, on tik tok the ladies are using sharpies as a lipstick. Yes, a sharpie. Peak stupid.
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 23, 2025 05:42 PM (BvTfc)
A Day Ending in "Y"
A fookin' clownshow is the DNC. History is being punished by the current crop of disingenuous, malign idiots.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at June 23, 2025 05:42 PM (gLikB)
Posted by: Still lurking up north, read some, don't comment much at June 23, 2025 05:38 PM (kTd/k)
Smiling like a donkey much of the day, every day, may be a reason. Not kidding.
Posted by: Gref at June 23, 2025 05:42 PM (aBgBM)
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 23, 2025 05:42 PM (BvTfc)
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Well, that's one way to huff a solvent. Or whatever is is they use in a sharpie to keep the ink from drying out.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 23, 2025 05:43 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: Still lurking up north, read some, don't comment much
She's morphing into Henry Waxman?
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 23, 2025 05:43 PM (sAmhv)
Posted by: toby928 at June 23, 2025 05:39 PM (jc0TO)
I once would toy with the idea of a "vacant" option.
If None Of The Above wins the majority, the office stays vacant for a term.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 23, 2025 05:43 PM (BjH5D)
Posted by: Romeo13
Fun fact, the very nuclear option that led to the change from 67 Senators to 60 requires that further changes the rules of the Senate can only be changed by having 60 votes with at least 67 members present for the vote. See Rule XII regarding Cloture, rule XVII for for the Byrd rule regarding Appropriations origin.
Posted by: whig at June 23, 2025 05:43 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: mrp at June 23, 2025 05:44 PM (rj6Yv)
Posted by: ErikInTexas at June 23, 2025 05:44 PM (idFFX)
Its bullshit. We are seeing the bullshit. Neither party gives two shits. But they're damn sure that there will only be two parties.
On this ... the Republicans and Democrats agree.
Posted by: Ed Hall at June 23, 2025 05:41 PM (J1vfd)
lol. So the same parties with the same people just puts up another faceless man until you get bored? That is just a waste of time.
Two party systems are plenty bad, aside from one party states or more than two party democracies who sabotage elections or collude like every European state.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 23, 2025 05:44 PM (8avO+)
They're not consistent in the slightest. But let me smarten you up.
You had a chorus of "my hair is not on fire" Republicans here during Obama. They were proud of it.
Posted by: Ed Hall at June 23, 2025 05:45 PM (J1vfd)
Posted by: toby928 at June 23, 2025 05:39 PM (jc0TO)
I once would toy with the idea of a "vacant" option.
If None Of The Above wins the majority, the office stays vacant for a term.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 23, 2025 05:43 PM (BjH5D)
Thirded.
Candidates, I despise each and every one of you! Get a real job!!!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 23, 2025 05:45 PM (ULPxl)
Posted by: Still lurking up north
She's morphing into Henry Waxman?
Posted by: Puddleglum
On her way to full Bat Boy.
Posted by: Grudge Harbor at June 23, 2025 05:46 PM (53oPJ)
Well, that's one way to huff a solvent. Or whatever is is they use in a sharpie to keep the ink from drying out.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 23, 2025 05:43 PM (tT6L1)
I admit I still smell them in hopes of it smelling like the papers in grade school...mimeograph paper. I'm looking for a nostalgia hit I guess.
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 23, 2025 05:46 PM (BvTfc)
Its bullshit. We are seeing the bullshit. Neither party gives two shits. But they're damn sure that there will only be two parties.
On this ... the Republicans and Democrats agree.
Posted by: Ed Hall
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Multi parties systems are as dysfunctional. There the betrayals happen when the offices are doled out by coalition standards.
No form of government nor constitutions fix a society and politicians that become corrupt.
Posted by: whig at June 23, 2025 05:46 PM (ctrM5)
Have you ever dealt with a primary with 36 gubernatorial candidates? That is what we had on the last WA state primary I voted in. That's ranked choice.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 23, 2025 05:46 PM (AcTAo)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 23, 2025 05:41 PM (pwtJC)
By the end of this week I expect one of them will begin wearing a flag pin of the Islamic Republic of Iran.
Until corporate says no or hit the highway.
Posted by: Gref at June 23, 2025 05:46 PM (aBgBM)
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at June 23, 2025 05:46 PM (gLikB)
And lo and behold your mamma was right that if you keep Making That Face, it'll stay that way.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 23, 2025 05:46 PM (BjH5D)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 23, 2025 05:47 PM (YUL+W)
If None Of The Above wins the majority, the office stays vacant for a term.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 23, 2025 05:43 PM (BjH5D)
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Determine elections by lottery. Winners can either serve their term in office or in jail.
One term only.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 23, 2025 05:47 PM (ZOv7s)
https://is.gd/XPNbnG
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 23, 2025 05:47 PM (NXz8h)
Posted by: ErikInTexas at June 23, 2025 05:44 PM (idFFX)
Russians are ripping open little pockets and gulping down a village or four most days. Ukraine has little ability to hold or counter attack but its not like they can just parade on roads for fear of drones.
Much more land per day is falling, and many fronts are entering open land with few villages to occupy to dig in.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 23, 2025 05:48 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: Still lurking up north, read some, don't comment much at June 23, 2025 05:48 PM (kTd/k)
Looking at the last German election, you see the absolute folly of multi-party, proportional representation schemes. The last govt was the most ineffectual and hated yet. So they vote. Result, and even more ineffectual and useless govt.
Had first past the post (which has Arrow problems big time) been used, the Bundestag would've been well over 90% CDU/CSU and AfD. The leftoid and green parties would've been nothing.
But no, AfD bad, so we get a coalition even worse the previous one.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 23, 2025 05:48 PM (w6EFb)
Well, we did just suffer a "vacant office" for a term. I'm pretty sure I don't want that.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at June 23, 2025 05:48 PM (gLikB)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 23, 2025 05:41 PM (pwtJC)
What made them put a pack of ugly no talent idiots on one show amazes me.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 23, 2025 05:49 PM (8avO+)
Currently your only option is to vote for someone.
Posted by: davidt at June 23, 2025 05:49 PM (i0F8b)
One term only.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 23, 2025 05:47 PM (ZOv7s)
I would gladly do four years in stir if it meant not having to be in the same room as 99 Senators.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 23, 2025 05:49 PM (BjH5D)
Someone in the crowd gasp, "what are they chasing, they're following something!"
Zoom in.
It's Jesus in sunglasses, riding a Bald Eagle, holding an American Flag.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 23, 2025
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I recall a meme of Reagan riding a velociraptor. Has anybody done one with Trump doing the same?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 23, 2025 05:50 PM (omVj0)
Why do you like Trump ? Let me help you. Because he's not a Carter, Obama, Clinton ... or a fucking Bush or Reagan.
That was the choices we were given - while Reagan signed EMTALA and ushered in the first crack to Social Medicine ... and "W" decided we were going to occupy the Middle East to spread Democracy.
And that's just the Republican Presidents.
We ... for those of us that are not Rock Ribbed Republicans ... never get a choice. Other than the two insiders that control DC and curate our choices.
Posted by: Ed Hall at June 23, 2025 05:50 PM (J1vfd)
Posted by: Still lurking up north, read some, don't comment much at June 23, 2025 05:48 PM (kTd/k)
It was during the tariff back and forth where Trump was getting concessions (because bargaining) and making compromises. So, since he did not do the full tariff, he chickened out, per these retards.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 23, 2025 05:51 PM (YUL+W)
Currently your only option is to vote for someone.
Posted by: davidt at June 23, 2025 05:49 PM
Interesting. Would your Against Vote just remove one vote from the tally of the candidate you dislike?
Posted by: toby928 at June 23, 2025 05:51 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: CaliGirl
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Prior notification is actually not required even under the War Powers Act and has not been the general rule apart from major deployments. WPA requires informing Congress within 48 hours of deploying troops.
FWIW, Truman took the US to war in Korea citing a UN resolution as justification because the US was treaty bound to help the UN Security Council implement its resolution on Korea (Soviets were absent protesting some ruling day of the vote).
Posted by: whig at June 23, 2025 05:51 PM (ctrM5)
"Group choice" is untenable in many circumstances. It's why a ship needs a captain, a dictator, one man who makes the call. A committee would be a disaster.
Same with war. War by committee is awful. That was the Founder's idea of a unitary executive to execute. Committee makes the laws, but a captain executes them.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 23, 2025 05:51 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 23, 2025 05:51 PM (NXz8h)
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 23, 2025 05:46 PM (BvTfc)
Ammonia? Hell, I ran blueprints for my dad when I was a kid. Probably explains the brain damage that brought me to the AoSHQ.
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 23, 2025 05:52 PM (a4NoL)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 23, 2025 05:53 PM (pwtJC)
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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That is because we the People have put in some of the worst people of the Republic into elected office by and large.
They conspicuously lack courage, honesty, intelligence, and any sense of morality other than themselves. As Mark Twain put it, American has no native criminal class apart from Congress.
Posted by: whig at June 23, 2025 05:53 PM (ctrM5)
https://tinyurl.com/4e7csncw
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 23, 2025 05:53 PM (omVj0)
Posted by: Still lurking up north, read some, don't comment much at June 23, 2025 05:48 PM (kTd/k)
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It is an info op. Dem gaslighting. In their alternate universe, Trump always loses, but the media hides it. (Yes, apparently CNN and MSNBC do not exist in this universe.)
Thus Trumps wins are actually losses, and he never wins anywhere because each "win" is a concession or something.
It's designed to keep the most delusional cat ladies on the reservation. No one else buys it.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 23, 2025 05:53 PM (ZOv7s)
Currently your only option is to vote for someone.
Posted by: davidt at June 23, 2025 05:49 PM
Interesting. Would your Against Vote just remove one vote from the tally of the candidate you dislike?
Posted by: toby928 at June 23, 2025 05:51 PM (jc0TO)
Yes.
Referendum we vote yea or nay. Senators and Reps vote yea or nay on bills, etc.
I want the same for my vote.
Posted by: davidt at June 23, 2025 05:53 PM (i0F8b)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 23, 2025 05:54 PM (qNM55)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 23, 2025 05:51 PM (YUL+W)
They really do think we are that stupid. Presumably because they are.
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 23, 2025 05:54 PM (a4NoL)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 23, 2025 05:51 PM (YUL+W)
They really do think we are that stupid. Presumably because they are.
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 23, 2025 05:54 PM (a4NoL)
"Truman didn't nuke Tokyo. What a pussy."
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 23, 2025 05:55 PM (BjH5D)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 23, 2025 05:55 PM (qgNn3)
But no, AfD bad, so we get a coalition even worse the previous one.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 23, 2025 05:48 PM (w6EFb)
Same as in France. The real rulers decide one party is taboo, so they twist the goofy electoral process in knots to get a result they accept.
Look one vote, on one day, winner takes all. You are a splinter party and get no wins? you get nothing. Merge with a real party. Lower than 4th or 5th and you are relegated off the ballot.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 23, 2025 05:55 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 23, 2025 05:55 PM (2GCMq)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 23, 2025 05:55 PM (0sNs1)
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 23, 2025 05:52 PM
Was that ammonia? I don't usually like ammonia smells but I liked the way the paper in school smelled when it was fresh off of the machine. Maybe I'm misremembering?
I like the way play doh smells, it's nostalgia in a scent.
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 23, 2025 05:55 PM (BvTfc)
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Normally I'm opposed to burqas but . . .
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 23, 2025 05:55 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 23, 2025 05:53 PM (pwtJC)
I never heard of Joy Behar before she showed up screeching on the View (disclaimer: I have never seen that show, except the clips shown on Gutfield). Where did that particular bitch come from?
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 23, 2025 05:56 PM (a4NoL)
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 23, 2025 05:54 PM (a4NoL)
Well, that is dunning-kruger(sp?) To a T. Idiots often do not think they are idiots.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 23, 2025 05:56 PM (YUL+W)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 23, 2025 05:56 PM (NXz8h)
Referendum we vote yea or nay. Senators and Reps vote yea or nay on bills, etc.
I want the same for my vote.
Posted by: davidt at June 23, 2025 05:53 PM
I'd hate to be the candidate that got a negative number of votes in the election.
Posted by: toby928 at June 23, 2025 05:56 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 23, 2025 05:57 PM (YUL+W)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 23, 2025 05:55 PM (L/fGl)
Plastic trash bags, sealed shut.
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 23, 2025 05:57 PM (a4NoL)
Scold of the Same One ? Bring something to the party. Come up with something ... anything ... with any intellectual worth.
Instead of just being a scold.
Its a big ask.
Posted by: Ed Hall at June 23, 2025 05:57 PM (J1vfd)
Posted by: Still lurking up north, read some, don't comment much at June 23, 2025 05:58 PM (kTd/k)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 23, 2025 05:58 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 23, 2025 05:58 PM (pwtJC)
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 23, 2025 05:54 PM (a4NoL)
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The most obvious problem is that if Trump always chickens out, he's obviously not a dictator.
So never mind about the Hitler stuff, because he's a harmless paper tiger.
Oh wait...
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 23, 2025 05:58 PM (ZOv7s)
Posted by: Still lurking up north, read some, don't comment much at June 23, 2025 05:48 PM (kTd/k)
It was during the tariff back and forth where Trump was getting concessions (because bargaining) and making compromises. So, since he did not do the full tariff, he chickened out, per these retards.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 23, 2025 05:51 PM (YUL+W)
As I recall, stock traders originated the term. It was their advice to not sell when stocks go down after Trump announces a hefty tariff, and buy the dip shortly afterward. Because Trump always chickens out and reduces or cancels the hefty tariff. Then stocks were bouncing back quickly.
Posted by: Gref at June 23, 2025 05:59 PM (aBgBM)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 23, 2025 05:56 PM (YUL+W)
At least when I say something blindingly stupid, I usually realize it once it has left my mouth. They don't seem to be aware of years of being nincompoops.
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 23, 2025 05:59 PM (a4NoL)
Got the handle change in one. LOL
I skipped your insults, Scogg. Too bad . So sad.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 23, 2025 05:59 PM (2GCMq)
Let me vote against Tom.
Posted by: davidt at June 23, 2025 05:59 PM (i0F8b)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 23, 2025 05:55 PM (L/fGl)
Plastic trash bags, sealed shut.
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 23, 2025 05:57 PM (a4NoL)
Do they make them things with activated charcoal?
Posted by: Speaking of rank.... at June 23, 2025 05:59 PM (BjH5D)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 23, 2025 05:58 PM
Yeah, Stand Up, if you can believe it.
Posted by: toby928 at June 23, 2025 05:59 PM (jc0TO)
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Clinton zapped an aspirin factory or some such thing in an attempt to take attention away from Monica-gate.
Posted by: Crusader at June 23, 2025 05:59 PM (TN0g+)
Posted by: Still lurking up north
Only when aroused.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 23, 2025 06:00 PM (/lPRQ)
Posted by: Still lurking up north, read some, don't comment much at June 23, 2025 05:38 PM (kTd/k)
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Posted by: Stevie Nicks at June 23, 2025 06:00 PM (PiwSw)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 23, 2025 05:58 PM (pwtJC)
I'm gonna assume people were laughing at her, not with her.
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 23, 2025 06:00 PM (a4NoL)
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Funnier or less funny than Margaret Cho?
Posted by: Crusader at June 23, 2025 06:00 PM (TN0g+)
Posted by: Ghoulposts at June 23, 2025 06:01 PM (qUkBO)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 23, 2025 06:01 PM (pwtJC)
-- decree of King Donaldo I
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 23, 2025 05:55 PM (0sNs1)
Now hold on just a minute here....
Posted by: Vincent Furnier at June 23, 2025 06:01 PM (PiwSw)
Posted by: Crusader at June 23, 2025 05:59 PM (TN0g+)
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If we don't bomb Serbia over Easter, the Nazis will have won.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 23, 2025 06:02 PM (ZOv7s)
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 23, 2025 06:02 PM (BvTfc)
Deal negotiation. He starts by demanding more than he wants, haggles, then settles for what he actually wants. Like when you sell a car.
Posted by: davidt at June 23, 2025 06:02 PM (i0F8b)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 23, 2025 05:59 PM (2GCMq)
You'd think at some point he'd quit banging his head against that wall, but maybe he likes the look of a huge dent in his forehead.
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 23, 2025 06:02 PM (a4NoL)
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Clinton zapped an aspirin factory or some such thing in an attempt to take attention away from Monica-gate.
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Well ... well ... TEN WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT!
Posted by: Land Whales of Worcester at June 23, 2025 06:02 PM (qUkBO)
Posted by: toby928 at June 23, 2025 06:02 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Old Fart Boomer at June 23, 2025 06:02 PM (R/m4+)
"I want to say something clearly: I’m a proud Democrat.
I’m proud that Democrats:
✅ Passed the first gun safety law in 30 years.
✅ Invested billions in mental health, housing, and clean energy.
✅ Cut child poverty, capped insulin costs, and forgave student loan debt.
But let’s be honest: Our party is in TROUBLE.
Right now, Democrats are deeply unpopular — especially with young people. Many of our leaders have lost touch with the urgency this moment demands."
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 23, 2025 06:03 PM (0sNs1)
Posted by: Still lurking up north, read some, don't comment much at June 23, 2025 06:04 PM (kTd/k)
If you could only skip my posts. Because this is too much interaction with your Yankee ass.
But you can't.
I don't want to talk to you. You can't stop talking to me. It makes sense, in a way. Because every time I have to drag my ass up past the DC / Philly / NYC line. Its always men that can't shut up, and women that can't stop asking me to talk in that Kentucky / Tennessee drawl.
Posted by: Ed Hall at June 23, 2025 06:04 PM (J1vfd)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 23, 2025 05:58 PM (pwtJC)
I'm gonna assume people were laughing at her, not with her.
Posted by: tcn in AK
I always assumed she the person who served up macaroni in a school cafeteria and was deeply unhappy because she wanted to be the cashier.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 23, 2025 06:05 PM (NXz8h)
Posted by: Weasel at June 23, 2025 06:05 PM (DiLbP)
Proportional Representation is evil, because those reps were not elected by anyone and have to real people to even pretend to represent. In theory, a district can kick out an asshole rep. This way a nutcase can get a seat from crazies all over the nation.
The EU, not surprisingly has the worst system yet. When your proportional vote gets you a seat, you get assigned to a political party automatically. Good thing the legislature there does nothing and has no power.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 23, 2025 06:05 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: Oldcat
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In Germany,
The three-constituency rule stipulates that if a party does not pass the 5% threshold but wins a plurality of votes in 3 constituencies, it is eligible for list seats.
Posted by: whig at June 23, 2025 06:06 PM (ctrM5)
He is a funny and smart and successful POTUS.
Posted by: Jmel at June 23, 2025 06:06 PM (bVhJi)
Right now, Democrats are deeply unpopular — especially with young people. Many of our leaders have lost touch with the urgency this moment demands."
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 23, 2025 06:03 PM (0sNs1)
So Hogg is saying young people are ingrates?
Posted by: Oldcat at June 23, 2025 06:07 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 23, 2025 06:08 PM (qgNn3)
Posted by: whig at June 23, 2025 06:06 PM (ctrM5)
and to be prime minister in some stupid coalition deal. Look if you can't get along enough to be in the same party, you can't run the government.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 23, 2025 06:09 PM (8avO+)
If you could only skip my posts. Because this is too much interaction with your Yankee ass.
But you can't.
Posted by: Ed Hall at June 23, 2025 06:04 PM (J1vfd)
Probably more in the line of poking the beehive with a stick for amusement.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 23, 2025 06:12 PM (8avO+)
Folks, we have to keep touching young people. Puts a spring in your step.
Posted by: Joe Biden at June 23, 2025 06:14 PM (hcwCh)
I don't think so.
She's the same chick that want everyone to love her ... as long as she can passive-aggressive everyone into doing exactly as she says.
"Leave Me Alone" is not in here vocabulary.
Posted by: Ed Hall at June 23, 2025 06:15 PM (J1vfd)
Have a great afternoon everyone
Posted by: Skip at June 23, 2025 06:26 PM (+qU29)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 23, 2025 06:28 PM (qgNn3)
Posted by: Ed Hall at June 23, 2025 06:15 PM (J1vfd)
Far better to aggressive-aggressive everyone into doing exactly as one says.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 23, 2025 06:34 PM (BjH5D)
Posted by: Pete at June 23, 2025 06:59 PM (i4riO)
Massie couldn't be bothered to comment at all as Obama was bombing the shit out of Libya (or droning an American citizen).
His principles can fit in a very small unserious thimble named "I hate Trump". He's another Justin Amash.
Posted by: Little Larry Sellers at June 23, 2025 07:17 PM (zdYK9)
Posted by: Matthew Proctor at June 24, 2025 06:41 AM (OdsgZ)
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