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Saturday Night "Club ONT" June 21, 2025 [The 3 Ds]
Saturday Night Joke and Other Funnies A man walks into a bar and says, "Quick! Give me a shot of whiskey before the trouble starts!" The bartender shrugs and pours him a shot. The man grabs it, downs it, slams the glass on the bar, and says, "Quick! Give me another shot before the trouble starts!" The bartender pours another. Again, the man drinks it fast and slams the glass down. "Quick! Give me another shot before the trouble starts!" The bartender, now curious, says, "Okay... but when are you gonna pay for these drinks?" The man sighs and says, "Now the trouble starts."
Club ONT On Location!
As seen on the menu at the MoMe:
Mocktails - You order them and we mock you - observed by blaster
"I need a drink." - Old Lady Emhoff
The most confusing comment of the day:
"Happy to see everyone again!" - Beth, who isn't coming
From a lurker and first time attendee, when asked why she doesn't comment: "For the longest time I didn't know how to find the comments, so I just read the content."
Also from the lurker lady, after finding out she was sitting near TRex, the host of the Hobby Thread: "I love the Hobby Thread!" [Disco says - this was likely after she received a twenty from The Dino]
[Dino says - no idea what you're talking about. She loves pictures but reads the posts for the articles. ]
A common theme
"Wonder what Piper would say about Horde MoMe fashion choices?" "Can't wait to see Piper's fashion write-up of the NoVa MoMe."
"Don't try to get a quote from me, Disco Boy - or you might get shivved." - Bluebell (OK, maybe she didn't say that, but she was probably thinking it.)
"If you have nothing to say, it's alright" - Doof, as told to Jinx the Cat
We end with the comment of the day. It warrants a photo, not just a transcription
We are unaware of any arrests, unpaid bar tabs, or drunken marriage proposals that may have occurred at this year's NoVa MoMe. And frankly, we wouldn't tell you about them even if we did know about them. To be sure you don't miss out on MoMe details, you need to be there! If you haven't done so, the Club implores you to make your plans to attend TxMoMe-10 in October. No excuses -- just be there!
Rooftop Bars & Restaurants to Check Out in DC
Are otters dangerous ? pic.twitter.com/hcDEeOnNp8
— Anticommie (@QueenAnticommie) June 12, 2025
Drink of the Night Bow and Arrow
No mysteries here - just stuff that rhymes with Eddie
Top 10ish comments of the week. Or thereabout...
Club ONT brought to you by: Raffle Tickets. Keeping hopes alive and expectations low. No Club prizes this evening - hit the comments with your storied raffle wins or the ones that got away.
Club ONT respectfully asks that patrons act with care when the DJ asks everyone to "put their hands in the air and wave them like you just don't care." The ceiling fans are lower than you might expect. Thank you.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Tonypete at June 21, 2025 10:29 PM (cYBz/)
What a day!!1
Posted by: four seasons at June 21, 2025 10:29 PM (3ek7K)
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 10:29 PM (rdVOm)
Not possible
Posted by: Winston AKA Pops at June 21, 2025 10:30 PM (FJMtP)
Notified the last thread
Posted by: four seasons at June 21, 2025 10:31 PM (3ek7K)
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at June 21, 2025 10:31 PM (lUFok)
Posted by: Admiral Spinebender at June 21, 2025 10:32 PM (hftn9)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 10:32 PM (dDmld)
Evenin'
Slow news day. Sorry about missing the NoVAMoMe. Work is a harsh mistress.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 10:33 PM (PGK1w)
This got me to thinking - where exactly is the line between a medically appropriate, complete exam and some guy getting his jollies?
Things that make you go "Hmmmmmmmm. . . . .".
Posted by: Tonypete at June 21, 2025 10:34 PM (cYBz/)
I be bets he be told Trump whats to dew because Trump is a Idoit !!!!!
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein From Brattleboro, Vt at June 21, 2025 10:34 PM (q/j2W)
I'm crying
ANYWAY
hi! just a quick check in and I gotta go to bed. been a busy weekend for us - for a lot of us!
glad the MoMe went well!
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 21, 2025 10:36 PM (Pv3Rg)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 10:36 PM (QnmlO)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 10:32 PM (dDmld)
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Iran so far away.
Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2025 10:36 PM (79pEw)
So anything happening tonight? Seems quiet
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 10:36 PM (IG2sK)
I be bets he be told Trump whats to dew because Trump is a Idoit !!!!!
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein From Brattleboro, Vt at June 21, 2025 10:34 PM (q/j2W)
He painted the targets on the ground fluorescent yellow, warning Trump not to strike there.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2025 10:36 PM (S/Y4j)
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM (Pv3Rg)
Imma little miffed because I pwned the troll downstairs but it got willard.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM (RIvkX)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM (XV/Pl)
Posted by: 18-1 at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2025 10:24 PM (KRtlO)
Still stuck on beer and wine?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM (0eaVi)
*sets up pitchers & glasses along the bar*
WOO HOO! Happy Caturday Night at Club 3D!!!
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM (rdVOm)
Posted by: mindful webworker - now, shorter days at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM (63lGh)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM (ULPxl)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM (63Dwl)
Hey Ayatollah, I'm not even going to think about bombing Iran until 14 days from now.
Posted by: Gref at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM (aBgBM)
A punchline with a bonus pun. Well played.
Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2025 10:38 PM (DgGvY)
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 10:38 PM (rdVOm)
Obama would have told the Iranians what was planned. Because the prissy little ponce would be in a snizz because his whole foreign policy just collapsed.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 10:39 PM (QnmlO)
Posted by: jsg at June 21, 2025 10:39 PM (yjTHn)
Posted by: Eeyore at June 21, 2025 10:39 PM (od0dV)
Posted by: COMountainMarie at June 21, 2025 10:40 PM (WZKNR)
Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 10:41 PM (41CYW)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2025 10:41 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: TRex at June 21, 2025 10:42 PM (IQ6Gq)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 10:42 PM (+qU29)
The 3D's post music that "rhymes with Eddie."
And there's no Rush?
I'd call that a mystery.
Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2025 10:42 PM (DgGvY)
Posted by: Joe Redfield at June 21, 2025 10:43 PM (KOtXO)
It was classic misdirection. The ayatollahs were all wondering WFT was going on in DC.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 10:43 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 10:43 PM (/CkK4)
Go to a MoMe.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 21, 2025 10:43 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 10:43 PM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 10:43 PM (IG2sK)
Posted by: Case at June 21, 2025 10:44 PM (ilX37)
Posted by: Joe Redfield
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*fistbump* linked that one in the Tues ONT.
Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 10:44 PM (41CYW)
Posted by: tankdemon at June 21, 2025 10:45 PM (uyIjy)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM
***
NoVa MoMe was in "silent but deadly" mode for OPSEC purposes.
Posted by: TRex at June 21, 2025 10:45 PM (IQ6Gq)
Posted by: tankdemon at June 21, 2025 10:45 PM (uyIjy)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 10:43 PM (/CkK4)
Nah. Most people including the young love strength, spine and will, and Trump is projecting all three.
Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 10:46 PM (E0p3T)
Posted by: The Mullahs at June 21, 2025 10:46 PM (dDmld)
[ . . . ]
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM (rdVOm)
Who knew Amyl Nitrate paired well with spicy chicken!
Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2025 10:46 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 10:46 PM (36PRH)
Posted by: Beaver at June 21, 2025 10:46 PM (tCdjd)
Posted by: banana Dream at June 21, 2025 10:46 PM (cduTK)
It's wild, all the ways we get the news now. But not from the old dinos.
Anyway, Kellerman's comedic news bits are fun.
https://www.youtube.com/@KellermanKomedy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8JRBUOsjvc
Posted by: LizLem at June 21, 2025 10:46 PM (gWBY1)
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at June 21, 2025 10:47 PM (aaRct)
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2025 10:48 PM (Splbu)
https://shorturl.at/uq8qb
https://shorturl.at/12Ena
https://shorturl.at/Ad9Kv
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2025 10:48 PM (ULPxl)
Posted by: Kindltot
Spoken like a true Oregonian...
/s
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 10:48 PM (rdVOm)
Mescal in my bourbon? That's sort of like how crack was invented, amirite.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 10:48 PM (36PRH)
Posted by: Otter at June 21, 2025 10:48 PM (i0F8b)
CBC is not impressed.
And the Dems had a few hours notice and no details. Smart move.
Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 10:48 PM (jvJvP)
Just woke up *yawns*
What I miss?
People are freaking out because Trump dropped something.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at June 21, 2025 10:48 PM (lUFok)
Go to a MoMe.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 21, 2025 10:43 PM (xcxpd)
Do what he say, do what he say!!!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2025 10:49 PM (ULPxl)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 10:43 PM (/CkK4)
They'll forget about it within a week.
No we know why he extended their TikTok for a while.
Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2025 10:49 PM (Dnobf)
Just woke up *yawns*
What I miss?
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport
Not much, we didn't miss a thing.
Posted by: USAF at June 21, 2025 10:49 PM (TfUTr)
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at June 21, 2025 10:47 PM (aaRct)
I almost hope one of them does. Trump can then say that we have to send our Best and Brightest to do the work. Of course, that means the activist judges and flamboyant gays and trans.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2025 10:49 PM (S/Y4j)
Posted by: Pikov Andropov at June 21, 2025 10:49 PM (QyD0M)
Posted by: 13times at June 21, 2025 10:50 PM (jAG+j)
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 10:50 PM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2025 10:50 PM (pZEOD)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 10:50 PM (36PRH)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 10:43 PM (/CkK4)
They'll forget about it within a week.
No, I don't think they will. They will remember that this is what an actual leader looks like.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 10:50 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at June 21, 2025 10:50 PM (aaRct)
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - Ace of Spades Ladies Brigade, plucky comic relief at June 21, 2025 10:50 PM (SRRAx)
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2025 10:50 PM (pZEOD)
*With* us, right???
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2025 10:50 PM (ULPxl)
Bow and Arrow
Alternate drink of the night:
The Smoking Crater
1 oz Islay scotch
Enjoy the aroma.
Posted by: mikeski is enjoying some Ardbeg at June 21, 2025 10:51 PM (DgGvY)
Posted by: The Mullahs at June 21, 2025 10:46 PM (dDmld)
Oh sorry, you're supposed to get one. Let us know where you are and we'll have it right over.
Posted by: Mossad agents in Biden and Obama masks at June 21, 2025 10:51 PM (Dnobf)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 10:43 PM (/CkK4)
They'll forget about it within a week.
No we know why he extended their TikTok for a while.
Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2025 10:49 PM (Dnobf)
Depends what happens in the next week or month. If it’s a one and done, maybe. If there’s more. Fehhhgetaboutit.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 10:51 PM (/CkK4)
Posted by: LizLem at June 21, 2025 10:52 PM (gWBY1)
Go to a MoMe.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 21, 2025 10:43 PM (xcxpd)
Do what he say, do what he say!!!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
I don't like to encourage people to attend.
The fewer folks show, the better I look.
(Kinda "last man on earth" strategy.)
Posted by: USAF at June 21, 2025 10:52 PM (TfUTr)
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2025 10:52 PM (Splbu)
Or it could have been Biden. You know, that sonofabitch. He ruins a lot of stuff, and maybe I just happened to be standing there.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 21, 2025 10:52 PM (CHHv1)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 10:52 PM (qgNn3)
THERE ARE TOO MANY THREADS!!!!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 10:36 PM (QnmlO)
Why do you need to count threads?
Posted by: Cheap Linen at June 21, 2025 10:52 PM (uyIjy)
Posted by: Some Rat at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (TfUTr)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (i0F8b)
There may well be repercussions. I'm okay with the possibility.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (+WYXX)
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2025 10:36 PM (QnmlO)
Why do you need to count threads?
Posted by: Cheap Linen at June 21, 2025 10:52 PM (uyIjy)
The higher the thread count, the softer the sheets.
Posted by: Wamsutta at June 21, 2025 10:54 PM (0eaVi)
Posted by: Otter at June 21, 2025 10:54 PM (PGK1w)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 10:54 PM (/CkK4)
Please, please, please let it be "Edsel."
Posted by: Oddbob at June 21, 2025 10:54 PM (/y8xj)
Ronald thanks Donald from the Beyond for taking the next step with Iran.
Posted by: GWB at June 21, 2025 10:54 PM (PkFyV)
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2025 10:50 PM (pZEOD)
*With* us, right???
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June
Well of course!
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2025 10:55 PM (pZEOD)
Posted by: jsg at June 21, 2025 10:55 PM (yjTHn)
Closed due to the abundancy of stupid people
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2025 10:55 PM (S/Y4j)
Posted by: Blanco Basura
What a butterfingers! 😁
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2025 10:55 PM (Splbu)
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 10:50 PM (Riz8t)
They weren't alive or old enough to remember the Obama era takedown of Osama Bin Laden. This might be that "Zero Dark Thirty" moment for them.
I still remember vividly that evening, and all my liberal friends suddenly getting hard ons for the military and POTUS striking a target WITHOUT congressional approval. But no one threatened to impeach Obama over it.
Posted by: LizLem at June 21, 2025 10:56 PM (gWBY1)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (i0F8b)
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Found On Road Dead - Ow!
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 21, 2025 10:56 PM (XZ5S6)
But on the bright side it does put a crimp in the pride month festivities. So there’s that. Silver linings.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 10:56 PM (/CkK4)
I assume the Israeli's would have.
There's a lot of info to be gleaned from isotope ratios.
Posted by: retropox at June 21, 2025 10:56 PM (a8Nkr)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (i0F8b)
Two Weeks
Posted by: jsg at June 21, 2025 10:57 PM (yjTHn)
MSNBC is questioning why US Trump signed his social media post announcing the Iranian bombings as Donald J. Trump, President of the United States. Me: cuz that's his name and job title? That's all I got.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 10:57 PM (NXz8h)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 10:43 PM (/CkK4)
Yep. Now he has no chance of being re-elected in in 2028.
Wait. What?
Never mind.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 21, 2025 10:58 PM (J+OHH)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (i0F8b)
Two Weeks
Posted by: jsg
I went right to Barak.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 10:58 PM (NXz8h)
Posted by: PabloD at June 21, 2025 10:59 PM (Dsfkc)
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 10:59 PM (gAN4h)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 10:59 PM (qgNn3)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 10:59 PM (+qU29)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
I have my simple solution for that: Shut off the computer and go to bed.
Hey, club guzzlers: My doc has told me to lay off the booze for the interim. So, y'all have a shot for me.
G'nite, y'all. 💤
Posted by: mindful webworker - tomorrow will be warm and humid at June 21, 2025 10:59 PM (63lGh)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (i0F8b)
Two Weeks
Posted by: jsg
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LOL.
Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 11:00 PM (41CYW)
Posted by: Miklos opted for Falafel at June 21, 2025 11:00 PM (UYy+W)
Posted by: JUNE20TH at June 21, 2025 11:00 PM (R6Hhu)
Rhymes with Eddie: Bette, as in She's Got Bette Davis Eyes.
Posted by: Official Delurker, likes most types of music at June 21, 2025 11:00 PM (M/92e)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (i0F8b)
Two Weeks
Posted by: jsg at June 21, 2025 10:57 PM (yjTHn)
Candygram for Mongo
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2025 11:00 PM (ULPxl)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 11:00 PM (2GCMq)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (i0F8b)
How duz my azz taste
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 11:01 PM (gAN4h)
Posted by: LizLem at June 21, 2025 11:01 PM (gWBY1)
Posted by: Case at June 21, 2025 11:01 PM (ilX37)
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To be fair, there is nothing in the Constitution about bombing crazy mullahs.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 11:01 PM (dDmld)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 11:02 PM (IG2sK)
Posted by: LizLem at June 21, 2025 11:01 PM (gWBY1)
They could have evacuated things Out Of An Abundance Of Caution, although I suppose that would be difficult to hide from satellite view.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2025 11:02 PM (ULPxl)
Wait. What?
Never mind.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 21, 2025 10:58 PM (J+OHH)
When Dems flip 50 seats in the house will that make a difference?
I don’t think most 29 year olds here understand how opposed to endless war the younger generations are. While Fox News is stroking it tonight, as are their boomer viewers, millions of Trump voters under 40 are asking what the actual fuck? And they’re not going to sit back and shrug. They’re pissed and their outlet is going to be voting Democrat next time. And in 2028.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 11:02 PM (/CkK4)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 11:02 PM (2GCMq)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2025 11:02 PM (qgNn3)
Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2025 11:02 PM (W/lyH)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 11:00 PM (2GCMq)
---
'Tis but a scratch
-Black Knight with his arm off
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 21, 2025 11:02 PM (0aYVJ)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram
I had a case of Tritaparsi when I was 23. Bedridden for weeks.
Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2025 11:02 PM (DgGvY)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 11:02 PM (36PRH)
I think this whole this was planned out with us and Israel to the second. All this stuff about "Will Trump attack", #TwoWeeks, oh Trump is vacillating and mad at Tulsi, and all that was just theater.
The whole "B-2s going over the Pacific and refueling NOTAMs" was all further deception and "squirrel!"
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2025 11:03 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Kamil Harris at June 21, 2025 11:03 PM (q/j2W)
Ayatolla Khamenei: No you infidel dog. You haven't even put a s ratch on our nuclear facilities.
PRP: (SLAMS PHONE DOWN. WAITS 10 SE ONDS AND THEN DIAL UP AYATOLLA KHAMENEI)
PRP: If you even harm one hair on the head of one american....
AK: We will do as we please to the great Satan we will....
PRP: (slams phone down waits ten seconds and calls AK back)
AK: WTF?
PRP: I'm in your blind spot and I'm coming for you. Kill one more American or Israeli and you will wish I came with a MOP. (Slams phone down)
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 21, 2025 11:03 PM (OA79/)
"atomic" wings? Give me the recipe & I'll make a batch of those, too!
Alternatively-- get in the kitchen y'self!
Welcome. May I buy you a drink, sir?
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 11:03 PM (rdVOm)
So he won't win reelection in 2028?
Oh no.
For the first time in 46 years Iran got its shit pushed in. It's ok to win. Good even.
The word just went out around the world, do not fuck around with the United States of America or we will inflict a price you can't afford. It's about damn time.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 11:03 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: four seasons at June 21, 2025 11:03 PM (3ek7K)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 11:04 PM (36PRH)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 21, 2025 10:52 PM (CHHv1)
No, you didn't bring anyone down.
Posted by: GWB at June 21, 2025 11:05 PM (PkFyV)
All the "boys" involved are fine. Trump didn't send in troops, he took out some targets. He's done it before, without boots on the ground.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 21, 2025 11:05 PM (Ezs10)
No more incessant 'Iran is X weeks away from building an A-bomb.' At least, I hope no more.
Posted by: We Must Not Allow A Mineshaft gp! at June 21, 2025 11:05 PM (t9lPv)
Posted by: Barky o numbnutz at June 21, 2025 11:06 PM (OA79/)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (i0F8b)
I believe it was "Wing Attack Plan R"
Posted by: MAJOR KONG at June 21, 2025 11:06 PM (R6Hhu)
Operation "The Paulo". You know, deep penetration.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2025 11:07 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 11:07 PM (tuLbh)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 11:03 PM (viF8m)
He just reserved a place on Mt Rushmore.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at June 21, 2025 11:07 PM (aaRct)
Posted by: Case at June 21, 2025 11:01 PM (ilX37)
All that's really required for an impeachment are a simple majority of votes in the House of Representatives. No misconduct required. (e.g. Trump's first term.)
Posted by: Cheap Linen at June 21, 2025 11:07 PM (uyIjy)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 11:07 PM (NXz8h)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 11:07 PM (i0F8b)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (i0F8b)
How duz my azz taste
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 11:01 PM (gAN4h)
Holey Moses
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2025 11:07 PM (S/Y4j)
[ . . . ]
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 10:37 PM (rdVOm)
Who knew Amyl Nitrate paired well with spicy chicken!
Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2025 10:46 PM (D7oie)
Amyl and the Sniffers > Amyl Nitrate
https://youtu.be/uSyig1NQERQ?si=wg7gaDJQzV5aXjSw
Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I WAS The Science at June 21, 2025 11:07 PM (8hxDK)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025
Every party needs a pooper.
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2025 11:08 PM (pZEOD)
(I lived in Oregon, once upon a time... loved it)
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 11:08 PM (rdVOm)
Posted by: We Must Not Allow A Mineshaft gp! at June 21, 2025 11:08 PM (t9lPv)
Rats. I wanted to watch it live.
Posted by: Somewhere South ofI-80 at June 21, 2025 11:09 PM (89Sog)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 11:09 PM (2GCMq)
Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at June 21, 2025 11:09 PM (89Sog)
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2025 10:50 PM (Riz8t)
It all depends on what happens in the next few days. If things go south, there will be trouble.
But if it turns right - everyone lives a winner. Always have, always will.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2025 11:09 PM (EVFZ5)
"This is not constitutional," Massie said, responding to Trump's Truth Social post announcing the strikes on Fordow, Natanz and Isfahan in Iran.
Oh, but it was OK when Chocolate Jesus did !!!!!!
During his presidency, Obama approved the use of 563 drone strikes that killed approximately 3,797 people. In fact, Obama authorized 54 drone strikes alone in Pakistan during his first year in office. One of the first CIA drone strikes under President Obama was at a funeral, murdering as many as 41 Pakistani civilians. The following year, Obama led 128 CIA drone strikes in Pakistan that killed at least 89 civilians.
Posted by: Mike Hunt at June 21, 2025 11:09 PM (BltCC)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (i0F8b)
How duz my azz taste
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 11:01 PM (gAN4h)
Holey Moses
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2025 11:07 PM (S/Y4j)
Operation Slow Ride.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 21, 2025 11:10 PM (OA79/)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 11:10 PM (+qU29)
They got their mission planning from Star Wars.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 11:10 PM (viF8m)
It will be interesting to see if this spurs any gen z to turn out for the No Kings protests on July 4, but I highly doubt it.
Posted by: LizLem at June 21, 2025 11:10 PM (gWBY1)
Posted by: gKWVE at June 21, 2025 11:10 PM (gKWVE)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (i0F8b)
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Operation FAFO.
Posted by: Eeyore at June 21, 2025 11:10 PM (od0dV)
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 11:11 PM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Frasier Crane at June 21, 2025 11:11 PM (RAtNF)
Operation Kiss Your Ass Goodbye
Posted by: four seasons at June 21, 2025 11:11 PM (3ek7K)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 11:09 PM (2GCMq)
Exactly. Democrats are always furious. It's like it's their job.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at June 21, 2025 11:11 PM (aaRct)
Nicholas Fondacaro@NickFondacaro
"I feel terrible."
WATCH Sunny Hostin squirm as The View's executive producer, Brian Teta asks her about how she "single-handedly taken down the Democratic Party - some would say democracy itself - with one question" to Kamala Harris.
https://is.gd/FLPKdQ
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Of course, no thought was given to what was best for the country.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 21, 2025 11:11 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: Cheap Linen at June 21, 2025 11:07 PM (uyIjy)
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Trump only needs two more impeachments to get a free six-inch sandwich from Subway.
*hot sandwiches excluded
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 11:12 PM (dDmld)
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Over the last 8 days, Iran--and their supporters around the world--endlessly threatened ... everything.
And delivered ... nothing.
I gotta say, just how much of the "threat" of Iran was cardboard tanks and wooden guns?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 21, 2025 11:12 PM (zwX/r)
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 11:12 PM (VofaG)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (i0F8b)
Thank you for your attention to this matter!
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2025 11:12 PM (Splbu)
Trump may turn out to be the most popular wartime leader since FDR.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2025 11:12 PM (EVFZ5)
Its sequel is "I Didn't Walk Towards Your Love, Iran."
Posted by: LizLem at June 21, 2025 11:12 PM (gWBY1)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 11:02 PM (/CkK4)
Let's at least wait a few days to see what the polls look like and not just assume what millions of people we've never met are feeling right now.
Posted by: Cheap Linen at June 21, 2025 11:13 PM (uyIjy)
Nicholas Fondacaro@NickFondacaro
"I feel terrible."
WATCH Sunny Hostin squirm as The View's executive producer, Brian Teta asks her about how she "single-handedly taken down the Democratic Party - some would say democracy itself - with one question" to Kamala Harris.
https://is.gd/FLPKdQ
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Of course, no thought was given to what was best for the country.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 21, 2025 11:11 PM (L/fGl)
But we can still point and laugh at her Maoist struggle session.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2025 11:13 PM (ULPxl)
Posted by: Megthered at June 21, 2025 11:13 PM (GOJbT)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 11:13 PM (36PRH)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (i0F8b)
How duz my azz taste
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 11:01 PM (gAN4h)
Holey Moses
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2025 11:07 PM (S/Y4j)
Operation Slow Ride.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless
Free Bird.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 21, 2025 11:13 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I WAS The Science at June 21, 2025 11:13 PM (8hxDK)
Like all of my kidlets and friends who are celebrating wildly?
Posted by: Man at June 21, 2025 11:14 PM (tubbA)
From something I was seeing, the real B-2 strike force flew east near Spain, refueling near "Moron Air Base" in Spain, and also Crete, and went into Iran. Now, that's some claim on X I was seeing.
Moron Air Base.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2025 11:14 PM (w6EFb)
"We have just uploaded Starlink to Iran as a humanitarian effort.
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 11:14 PM (gAN4h)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 21, 2025 11:14 PM (NXz8h)
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2025 11:14 PM (Splbu)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 11:07 PM (i0F8b)
Because what they really desired in their heart of hearts was unilateral disarmament so the Soviets could conquer us and usher in the glorious revolution.
Their politics are quite literally: America bad, capitalism bad, Christians and Jews bad, men bad, white bad.
Posted by: Sjg at June 21, 2025 11:14 PM (aqZN1)
They can suck on their 'US can not do anything' of 1979....
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at June 21, 2025 11:14 PM (QGaXH)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 11:14 PM (+qU29)
They got their mission planning from Star Wars.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 11:10 PM (viF8m)
Hah. I told you the air shafts were the key! But dang, those were some big motherlovin grenades. Git up offa that thing! Heh! HOT TUB!
Posted by: James Brown at June 21, 2025 11:15 PM (OA79/)
Like all of my kidlets and friends who are celebrating wildly?
Posted by: Man
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Same. +1.
Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 11:15 PM (41CYW)
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at June 21, 2025 11:15 PM (aaRct)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 11:15 PM (2GCMq)
George Lucas, you magnificent bastard!
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Plucky Comic Relief, AoS Ladies Brigade - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at June 21, 2025 11:15 PM (SRRAx)
Or not.
Keep seeing this assumption stated as fact.
As for 'we're at war', well, we've been at war with Iran since 1979 and too many people just don't want to admit it.
I'm against regime change. I'm not against permanently disabling an Islamist regimes nuke weapons program.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 11:15 PM (PGK1w)
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2025 11:15 PM (EVFZ5)
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 11:16 PM (gAN4h)
Posted by: Mike Hunt
That guy is a terrible shot.
Posted by: Michael Jordan at June 21, 2025 11:16 PM (53oPJ)
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2025 11:14 PM (Splbu)
I dunno, it’s kind of fun to watch cowards weep.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2025 11:17 PM (EVFZ5)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 10:53 PM (i0F8b)
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Operation Ballz Deep
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 21, 2025 11:17 PM (pI9a0)
No, we do not have any SR-71's or other Blackbirds any longer.
I was at Skunk Works 20 years, and was in a project office, working on Dark Star, when Ben Rich took another call from the Senate. It must have been about 1990...
He came out of the bosses office, telling us, 'We've told them so many times, when you stop the funding, the entire logistics chain stops, the suppliers have all stopped. They had wanted to for years, the SR-71 equipment was no longer their modern stuff. We cannot bring it back."
I have recently heard one spaceplane outfit has scoured the world for every gallon of JP-7 they could scrounge up for their project. Didn't find much.
Posted by: Jimmy Doolittle at June 21, 2025 11:17 PM (YkdQj)
It's up to the Iranian people to take back their country now. If they don't, shame on them.
Posted by: four seasons at June 21, 2025 11:17 PM (3ek7K)
Posted by: gKWVE at June 21, 2025 11:17 PM (gKWVE)
Posted by: Man at June 21, 2025 11:18 PM (tubbA)
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 11:18 PM (rdVOm)
speculation that the B-2 bombers were able to drop their weapons into... get this... the fucking air ducts at Fordow to enhance their penetration into the lab.
"Precision"
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2025 10:39 PM (Q4IgG)
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So? I used to bullseye womp rats in my T-16 back home. They're not much bigger than two meters.
Posted by: Luke Skywalker, The Whiner at June 21, 2025 11:18 PM (36PRH)
Narcissists gotta Narc. They are conveniently forgetting the Biden coup, the assassination attempts on Trump hear round the world, the footage of Kamala approving trans surgeries for inmates using taxpayer money, Elon, Joe Rogan, the financial waste on the Call Her Daddy temporary set, the skibidi Ohio no rizz of Boomer Kamala for the youth, gas prices, egg prices, all prices...
Posted by: LizLem at June 21, 2025 11:18 PM (gWBY1)
Posted by: tankdemon at June 21, 2025 11:18 PM (uyIjy)
Posted by: We Must Not Allow A Mineshaft gp! at June 21, 2025 11:18 PM (t9lPv)
They got their mission planning from Star Wars.
Posted by: JackStraw
Penthouse equipment room for the elevator shafts...
Doh !!!
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2025 11:19 PM (/lPRQ)
Posted by: Robbie Rist at June 21, 2025 11:20 PM (G5+As)
Posted by: gKWVE
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I suspect we will be seeing a lot of the Gap Band in meme world over the next few days.
Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 11:20 PM (41CYW)
Posted by: gKWVE at June 21, 2025 11:20 PM (gKWVE)
FO Daisy
Posted by: four seasons at June 21, 2025 11:20 PM (3ek7K)
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Saw a tweet that the Iranian Atomic Authority is threatening legal action in retaliation for the strikes.
Guess they are hoping to file in Judge Boasberg's court.
Posted by: whig's phone at June 21, 2025 11:20 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 11:20 PM (VofaG)
Posted by: Luke Skywalker, The Whiner at June 21, 2025 11:21 PM (36PRH)
We named our new dog Daisy. Since the troll Daisy has shown up I"m considering changing my dog's name.
Posted by: four seasons at June 21, 2025 11:21 PM (3ek7K)
People who spend all their time looking at polls are still waiting for President Kamala to be inagurated.
Do you know what most people like? Winning. Not being threatened by insane religous fanatics. Getting payback against terrorists who have been bombing, shooting, stabbing and killing Americans for over 40 years. And now they won't get a nuke. Anyone trying to pretend that isn't an enormous thing is retarded.
Young people are largely stupid because they are young. But they tend to get older and learn that the world doesn't operate like a video game and some times hard things have to be done so they can still play those video games.
Trump pulled off this attack off without anyone having any clue it was about to happen. What do you suppose the odds are that he also knows that Iran has sleeper cells in the US and there will likely be counter attacks? He did it anyway because it had to happen. Who would you rather be right now, Donald Trump or an Iranian mullah?
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 11:22 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 11:22 PM (je3ji)
Posted by: MAYOR PETE at June 21, 2025 11:22 PM (R6Hhu)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 11:22 PM (36PRH)
Posted by: We Must Not Allow A Mineshaft gp!
Russia said nah. They're not doing that. Iran fucked up. They trusted them.
youtu.be/MYQCb3qrBpo
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 11:22 PM (PGK1w)
us-strike-fordow-iran-nuclear-site
The shock wave front is visible for a brief moment. And there are a few interesting sights and sounds as ordinance cooks off.
Posted by: 13times at June 21, 2025 11:22 PM (jAG+j)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2025 11:23 PM (+qU29)
Yeah well when Trump wins the award it will negate the award Oblowme got for blowing his lover in the back of a car in Chicago...
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 11:23 PM (gAN4h)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 21, 2025 11:05 PM (Ezs10)
Hopefully it stays that way.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 11:23 PM (/CkK4)
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 11:23 PM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 21, 2025 11:23 PM (lhenN)
Posted by: gKWVE at June 21, 2025 11:23 PM (gKWVE)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 21, 2025 11:23 PM (je3ji)
Posted by: Man at June 21, 2025 11:24 PM (tubbA)
Posted by: Mike Hunt at June 21, 2025 11:09 PM (BltCC)
You realize he was acting under the Authorization to Use Military Force that Bush got from Congress, right? Even though it was a p***y move to not simply declare war on the terrorists, it was in effect a declaration of war by Congress.
Posted by: GWB at June 21, 2025 11:24 PM (PkFyV)
youtu.be/MYQCb3qrBpo
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 11:22 PM (PGK1w)
Russia said... 'sorry... we're busy'...
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 11:24 PM (mP0Kj)
America and Israel just fucked shit up like nobody has done in decades.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 21, 2025 11:25 PM (0aYVJ)
Posted by: Ayatolla Khomeni at June 21, 2025 11:25 PM (rvwwT)
I'm a bit dubious of this "all six through the air shafts" thing. It will be a while before any reliable info on the actual methods and targets were, I think. A lot of this may be actual disinformation.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2025 11:25 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: GWB at June 21, 2025 11:24 PM (PkFyV)
An open ended never ending, Use of Force Authorization...
Even used against those not even covered BY that Act.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 11:25 PM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 11:02 PM (/CkK4)
Democrats who are so against getting us involved in wars?
Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 11:25 PM (E0p3T)
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 11:26 PM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 11:22 PM (viF8m)
Decisions, decisions...
So, one bed is being warmed by Melania, the other by a goat in a burka.
Tough call.
Posted by: tankdemon at June 21, 2025 11:26 PM (uyIjy)
Well, tonight, Trump took that strategy off the table by referencing "What nuclear program?"
They thought they had two weeks to work out the details. They didn't.
Posted by: Orson at June 21, 2025 11:26 PM (dIske)
He droned an American citizen without that due process we hear so much about from the left these days.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 11:26 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: We Must Not Allow A Mineshaft gp! at June 21, 2025 11:26 PM (t9lPv)
Posted by: GWB at June 21, 2025 11:24 PM (PkFyV)
IIRC The President has 60 days from emergency use of military action to go before Congress for a war resolution.
Is that correct?
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 11:27 PM (VofaG)
Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2025 11:27 PM (DgGvY)
I think Massie is probably a goner in the primary like Justin Amash was in Michigan during Trump's first term. People make allowances for some deviations but adopting Dem talking points against Trump's entire presidency is likely to be his undoing.
He might already be thinking of doing a Michael Forbes before his term ends.
Posted by: whig's phone at June 21, 2025 11:28 PM (ctrM5)
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zzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzz
Posted by: Judge Boasberg at June 21, 2025 11:28 PM (dDmld)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2025 11:14 PM (w6EFb)
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
And that is exactly the air bridge I predicted when they mentioned all those tankers flying eastward early last week. Been there, done that one, on both ends.
(That sounds kinky, doesn't it?)
Posted by: GWB at June 21, 2025 11:28 PM (PkFyV)
P.S "I'm not sure what "It's go time Donald is supposed to mean" but I think Trump just "went".
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 11:29 PM (2GCMq)
Is that correct?
Posted by: polynikes
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48 hours notice to Congress (except in cases of emergency - then can acti immediately), 60 days for emergency use, 30 days for withdrawal. I think? Not 100%
Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 11:29 PM (41CYW)
Posted by: Gref at June 21, 2025 11:30 PM (aBgBM)
Posted by: We Must Not
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I guess you didn't know all the personnel had been evacuated in advance. The goal was to destroy the capabilities of the facilities.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 11:30 PM (36PRH)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 11:30 PM (i0F8b)
Governor Tim Walz
@GovTimWalz
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18m
Following the President’s decision to bomb nuclear facilities in Iran, I’ve directed our public safety teams to be on heightened alert for potential threats to Minnesota. While there’s no known threats at this time, we’ll continue to monitor the situation and respond accordingly.
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Does this one suffer from main character syndrome?
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2025 11:30 PM (pZEOD)
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 11:31 PM (rdVOm)
*hot sandwiches excluded
Posted by: Cicero
HA!
Posted by: Miklos is Amused at June 21, 2025 11:31 PM (UYy+W)
The main threat in Minnesota is the asshole Walz
Posted by: four seasons at June 21, 2025 11:31 PM (3ek7K)
Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 11:29 PM (41CYW)
He did notify Johnson and Thune. I don’t know if that complies.
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 11:31 PM (VofaG)
The 60 days is from the War Powers Act which is of dubious constitutionality. Every president including Ford who vetoed it has held that to be so. Congress has the power of the purse or even impeachment but not direct power to order a president to stop a military action.
Posted by: whig's phone at June 21, 2025 11:32 PM (ctrM5)
*hot sandwiches excluded
Posted by: Cicero
HA!
Posted by: Miklos is Amused at June 21, 2025 11:31 PM (UYy+W)
He should wait for a couple more, and get one from a better sub chain or shop.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2025 11:32 PM (S/Y4j)
WATCH Sunny Hostin squirm as The View's executive producer, Brian Teta asks her about how she "single-handedly taken down the Democratic Party - some would say democracy itself - with one question" to Kamala Harris.
She took down planet Earth itself.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2025 11:32 PM (63Dwl)
Well shit, it's a long way to haul those suckers back to Arkansas!!
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at June 21, 2025 11:32 PM (PQOq3)
Bomb, bomb, bomb
Bomb, bomb Iran...
Posted by: Pikov Andropov
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Akshually, the Beach Boys version was a cover. The original was by The Regents.
Sorta like Pat Boone and _Tutti Frutti_.
Posted by: buddhaha at June 21, 2025 11:33 PM (4ETSN)
I'm really hoping to get some detailed info on just what, where, and how was involved with that Fordow hit.
It's going to be a while.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2025 11:33 PM (w6EFb)
Y'all know where everything is...
Posted by: JQ
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*Checks schedule...damnit, I thought JQ was pulling a double shift tonight*
Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 11:34 PM (41CYW)
That's some serious boom-boom.
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 11:34 PM (i0F8b)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 11:34 PM (36PRH)
(Sorry, that comment was from early 2017)
Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 11:34 PM (E0p3T)
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 11:34 PM (VofaG)
P.S "I'm not sure what "It's go time Donald is supposed to mean" but I think Trump just "went".
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 11:29 PM (2GCMq)
Part of Trump’s appeal was being opposed to endless war. He just burned that tonight. It’s reasonable to think it will have an effect on voters who backed him for this reason. Don’t you think?
I wanted him to “go” do things like border security. Which he’s done. Not start a needless war.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 21, 2025 11:35 PM (/CkK4)
youtu.be/aobIboK_z34
Posted by: gKWVE at June 21, 2025 11:35 PM (gKWVE)
Call it just a break, then. LOL!
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 11:35 PM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 11:34 PM (36PRH)
That, or a Cousin's Subs in my AO.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2025 11:35 PM (S/Y4j)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2025 11:34 PM (36PRH)
I prefer Firehouse
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 11:35 PM (VofaG)
@GovTimWalz
18m
Following the President’s decision to bomb nuclear facilities in Iran, I’ve directed our public safety teams to be on heightened alert for potential threats to Minnesota. While there’s no known threats at this time, we’ll continue to monitor the situation and respond accordingly.
Does this one suffer from main character syndrome?
Posted by: Piper
Also, Ilhan Omar has been placed on suicide-bomber watch.
I mean "suicide watch."
Posted by: Governor Knucklehead at June 21, 2025 11:35 PM (DgGvY)
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 11:36 PM (rdVOm)
Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 11:36 PM (DNJiU)
If a single question is all it took to take out an entire party, maybe it's time for some quiet introspection?
Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 11:36 PM (E0p3T)
Posted by: polynikes
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Posted this in an earlier thread. The last time an American President received congressional authorization for military action AUMF), was in October of 2002. 1991 was the next most recent AUMF. There have been a lot military actions before, after, and in between those dates.
Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 11:36 PM (41CYW)
It’s mind blowing.
Posted by: DaisyB at June 21, 2025 11:31 PM (AbL8c)
I know for a troll it's hard to understand this but Iran's been at war with us since 1979. Killed many many Americans through the years by using their proxies Hisb'Allah, Hamas, and other muzzie terrorist orgs. This action has been LONG overdue.
Do you think Iran's war chant for decades, 'Death to America!', is just rhetoric?
Posted by: RickZ at June 21, 2025 11:36 PM (gKDq2)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 11:37 PM (dDmld)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 11:37 PM (IG2sK)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 11:22 PM (viF8m)
Who I don't want to be right now is anyone in the chain of command who might get promoted! I don't want the job!
Posted by: GWB at June 21, 2025 11:37 PM (PkFyV)
Is that correct?
Posted by: polynikes
The War Powers Act is a Schrodinger's Law.
Passed by Congress, and over Nixon's veto.
No President has acknowledged its Constitutional legitimacy, but have always danced around it while officially stating that it does not bind the President. Never tested in court if it unconstitutionally limits the powers of the Commander in Chief.
Hussein Obama did some particularly fancy dances.
Posted by: Miklos so recalls at June 21, 2025 11:37 PM (UYy+W)
Following the President’s decision to bomb nuclear facilities in Iran, I’ve directed our public safety teams to be on heightened alert for potential threats to Minnesota. While there’s no known threats at this time, we’ll continue to monitor the situation and respond accordingly.
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Does this one suffer from main character syndrome?
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2025 11:30 PM (pZEOD)
Yes. Or he got a taste of the POTUS life as Kamala's running mate and can't turn back.
I don't care if it's fake news that in the shooter manifesto they won't release, Vance Boelter says he was told to kill Amy Klobuchar so Waltz could take her senate seat after his time as Guv is done. It's one of the few things that makes sense as to why he keeps trying to get his name in the news.
Posted by: LizLem at June 21, 2025 11:37 PM (gWBY1)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2025 11:38 PM (RIvkX)
They are also the Freshest off being brainwashed for 20 some odd years in our Education system.
Posted by: garrett at June 21, 2025 11:38 PM (MmNOR)
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 11:31
CBC said he informed Schumer.
Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 11:38 PM (jvJvP)
You both get covered in pig-shit, but the pig likes it.
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 11:38 PM (i0F8b)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2025 11:37 PM (dDmld)
To be fair it's only about 500 miles away from the Islamic Nation of Dearbornistan.
Posted by: ... at June 21, 2025 11:39 PM (E0p3T)
So now it's up to 12 GBU-57s? Hannidiot said Trump told him 6, but that could be 6 B-2s, 2 bombs per unit, he meant.
It's also possible something else was used along with the GBU-57s that we don't know about.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2025 11:39 PM (w6EFb)
You are so right davidt. I don't get the point of arguing with them. The trolls want a response, ignore them.
Posted by: four seasons at June 21, 2025 11:39 PM (3ek7K)
Will simply tell her: It's been a long time a-comin' and you were still learning how to play tetherball when this BS started, so don't give me any lip little girl...
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 11:40 PM (rdVOm)
Posted by: JQ
She clocks right in
She clocks right out
She clocks right in
And shakes it all about
Posted by: Miklos sings along at June 21, 2025 11:40 PM (UYy+W)
Politics
Exclusive
Trump administration boosts monitoring of possible Iran-backed cells in U.S., as Trump weighs strikes, sources say
https://tinyurl.com/yzmaj5z9
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 11:40 PM (gAN4h)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2025 11:38 PM (RIvkX)
I hope you are well.
And I did get Disney+ for 2.99 Can a mon5h.
I LOVE falling to sleep to woke 'Star Wars'.
Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 11:40 PM (jvJvP)
I am unable to predict exactly what an entire group of young people will think between now and 2028. If you can do that I suggest it you find someway to monetize it.
Good night
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2025 11:40 PM (2GCMq)
Do you think Iran's war chant for decades, 'Death to America!', is just rhetoric?
Posted by: RickZ at June 21, 2025 11:36 PM (gKDq2)
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Of course they're not serious! It's the Iranian version of "yadda yadda yadda." Like, "so I went to the market and saw this person I hate, *death to America*, then we parted ways."
Posted by: MSNBC at June 21, 2025 11:40 PM (36PRH)
Again, it must be re-iterated that we've been at war with Iran since 1979. That has been often ignored and unacknowledged. Inconvenient I guess. I can only figure that Iran's nuclear weapons program, that nobody has denied exists, is just fine with a certain subset of people.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2025 11:41 PM (PGK1w)
Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 11:36 PM (41CYW)
It's why Korea was a "police action" - so Congress could avoid the hard decision of declaring war or not.
Posted by: GWB at June 21, 2025 11:41 PM (PkFyV)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 11:42 PM (i0F8b)
Eric Schmitt
@Eric_Schmitt
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2h
President Trump is a foreign policy realist not an ideologue. He has taken limited military action to achieve a crucial objective that is in the core national interest of the United States: preventing Iran from developing nuclear weapons.
He doesn’t want another Forever War. He wants peace. What happens now is up to Iran
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 11:42 PM (gAN4h)
Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 11:42 PM (DNJiU)
You mean he didn't burn that during his first term when he sent cruise missles into Syria?
You can keep up this idiotic line of reasoning that ignores the fact Iran has been at war with us for 46 years including maiming and killing hundreds of US soldiers in Iraq and countless other bombings and attacks but you are factually wrong.
Now you can explain how you were going to stop the world's leading state sponsor of terror from getting nukes when 46 years of asking has not deterred them. You don't get to pretend that isn't the entire reason for all of this or you wouldn't have been hacking Trump if they got a nuke while he did nothing.
So what was your plan?
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 11:42 PM (viF8m)
So go put your head back in the sand and let the adults take care of things now.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2025 11:43 PM (RIvkX)
Bomb, bomb, bomb
Bomb, bomb Iran...
Posted by: Pikov Andropov
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My Mom's name was Barbara Ann, and she hated that song with the fire of a thousand exploding suns. It has always made me smile to know that my kind, sweet little-old-church-lady Mom would have gleefully fed each Beach Boy into a woodchipper, feet first.
Posted by: Pennsyltucky at June 21, 2025 11:44 PM (QdGJh)
Posted by: MSNBC at June 21, 2025 11:40 PM (36PRH)
I'm thinking I saw a comedy sketch where everybody instead of saying 'hello' or 'good-bye' said 'Death to America!'.
It may be comical but the mullahs are deadly serious.
Posted by: RickZ at June 21, 2025 11:45 PM (gKDq2)
Posted by: 13times at June 21, 2025 11:45 PM (jAG+j)
Anyone here familiar with public seismic data? I saw something about someone claiming there wasn't a big enough event as expected around Fordow, but I don't know anything about that.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2025 11:45 PM (w6EFb)
She clocks right out
She clocks right in
And shakes it all about
Posted by: Miklos sings along
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*pulls sleeves down to expose shoulders and tighten shirt at the chest*
*does a SHIMMY!!!!*
(hey, it's a long time until payday...I need the $)
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 11:46 PM (rdVOm)
I agree. I believe a President has the power to use military action when he deems necessary for the security of the country. Congress can disagree by not funding it. I do think though that there should be an interim procedure to prevent the two branches being at odds.
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 11:46 PM (VofaG)
Posted by: Stateless.. 40I% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 21, 2025 11:40 PM (jvJvP)
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Whatever works friend. But I think maybe a white noise machine might be more entertaining. i mean sleep-inducing.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2025 11:47 PM (RIvkX)
Posted by: tankdemon at June 21, 2025 11:47 PM (uyIjy)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2025 11:47 PM (ULPxl)
Practically a handshake, or a way to answer the phone.
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 11:47 PM (rdVOm)
Posted by: tankdemon
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Heh.
Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 11:48 PM (41CYW)
Posted by: 13times at June 21, 2025 11:45 PM (jAG+j)
Exactly this. Trump has given no indication that he wants any more military involvement beyond taking care of the nuclear Iran issue.
Posted by: Emmie at June 21, 2025 11:48 PM (rF2iL)
(Obama) Entered Treaty Agreement with Iran without Advice & Consent of the Senate. No agreement (including one with the UN) is valid without 2/3 Senate approval. Article II Section 2
Congress did not approve Obama's war in Libya. Article I, Section 8, First illegal war U.S. has engaged in. Impeachable under Article II, Section 4; War Powers Act Article II Section 3
(Obama) Waived Federal provision that prevents USA from arming terrorist groups Article I. Section 1; Impeachable under Article III, Section 3
Exposed identity and methods of operation of a Navy SEALs team - Illegal for a President to reveal classified military secrets. Article II Section 3
Drone strikes on American Citizens 5th Amendment Due process Rights negated
Posted by: ju at June 21, 2025 11:48 PM (vgX6l)
@GovTimWalz
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18m
Following the President’s decision to bomb nuclear facilities in Iran, I’ve directed our public safety teams to be on heightened alert for potential threats to Minnesota. While there’s no known threats at this time, we’ll continue to monitor the situation and respond accordingly.
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Does this one suffer from main character syndrome?
Beware of Iranian's bearing gifts of Horse Essence.
Posted by: MAYOR PETE at June 21, 2025 11:49 PM (R6Hhu)
Donald Trump has been saying for 20 years now that iran can not be allowed to have nukes. I don't see how this changes anything in regards to his level of support in the long run except for going up.
Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at June 21, 2025 11:49 PM (89Sog)
I think something some people forget or don't think about is we the public have no clue what is going on in the background. We've been privy to the news about Iran the past few days, but what did Trump know?
I believe there was something bigger than Iran having nukes going on.
I salute President Trump and his staff for the decision they made.
Posted by: four seasons at June 21, 2025 11:50 PM (3ek7K)
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 11:46 PM (VofaG)
Unfortunately, you can't tell the Dems any National Security secrets in adbvance, like bombing plans, as they'd blab them somewhere, probably to Iran. The Dems are the 'Domestic Enemy' mentioned in the military oath.
Posted by: RickZ at June 21, 2025 11:50 PM (gKDq2)
Has anyone read any reports of the Israelis whacking any IRGC installations?
The IRGCs are fanatic, well-armed, and plentiful, and I think mostly non-Iranian. The Iranian people have little chance against them. Removing the IRGC will allow the Iranian people to change their regime.
Posted by: Arbalest at June 21, 2025 11:50 PM (FlRtG)
When I was young I understood the past was the key to understanding the present. Young people be like "so two months ago, bro..."
/rant over
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2025 11:51 PM (RIvkX)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2025 11:51 PM (i0F8b)
Posted by: 13times at June 21, 2025 11:52 PM (jAG+j)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 21, 2025 11:53 PM (bss/y)
They not gonna be regenrating air like on a sub.
The whole damn is probably under negative pressure (exhaust) for the lab and processing areas, plus inlets for the make-up air. Otherwise you be contaminating the whole place.
Ever worked in a big commercial kitchen? As much air going out just as much coming in... Big hot / cold spots on the thermal imaging.
Would not be surprised if the actual total size of the vents measured in 10,000 sq ft +.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2025 11:53 PM (/lPRQ)
Hussein Obama did some particularly fancy dances.
Posted by: Miklos so recalls at June 21, 2025 11:37 PM (UYy+W)
Due to the proven fact that Iran was supplying IEDs to Afghanistan while we were there, the logical argument can be made that they are Allies of the Taliban, and thus covered by the Anti Bin Laden Authorized Use of Force passed by Congress... the one with no expiration date.
Believe me... I hate the idea... but it is a valid legal argument.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 11:53 PM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2025 11:54 PM (IG2sK)
Oh Donald bomb me too.....
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 21, 2025 11:54 PM (gAN4h)
So go put your head back in the sand and let the adults take care of things now.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2025
This whole line of thinking reminds me of the dumb “War is not the answer” bumper stickers. That wholly depends on the question, and if the question is should we have a nuclear armed Iran, the answer is no. A loud and booming no, if you will.
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2025 11:55 PM (pZEOD)
Well there is the small thing about the mullahs targeting Trump as well as members of both his current and previous administration targeted for assassination. No big deal really.
I don't think some understand what having a rogue country like Iran having nukes means to the balance of power in the world.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 21, 2025 11:55 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: four seasons at June 21, 2025 11:55 PM (3ek7K)
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2025 11:53 PM (/lPRQ)
That's what she said.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 21, 2025 11:56 PM (bss/y)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 21, 2025 11:56 PM (bss/y)
The IRGCs are fanatic, well-armed, and plentiful, and I think mostly non-Iranian. The Iranian people have little chance against them. Removing the IRGC will allow the Iranian people to change their regime.
Yes. They are expressly targeting them and the Regime proper and have told the iranians to hold their powder while bombing is active.
Once Israel destroys a sufficient number of hard targets, this will be up to the Iranian Military and People.
Posted by: garrett at June 21, 2025 11:56 PM (MmNOR)
Posted by: JackStraw
The Rooskies and Chicoms seem rather quiet.
Posted by: Miklos so notes at June 21, 2025 11:57 PM (UYy+W)
Would not be surprised if the actual total size of the vents measured in 10,000 sq ft +.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
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Agree. Had a 2500SF kitchen at one my restaurants back in the day. The exhaust and make-up air was significant.
Posted by: scampydog at June 21, 2025 11:58 PM (41CYW)
Posted by: 13times at June 21, 2025 11:58 PM (jAG+j)
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2025 11:55 PM (pZEOD)
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"War is not healthy for children, and other living things"
*gags*
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2025 11:58 PM (RIvkX)
Posted by: 13times at June 21, 2025 11:45 PM (jAG+j)
Exactly this. Trump has given no indication that he wants any more military involvement beyond taking care of the nuclear Iran issue.
Posted by: Emmie
And if the Iranian People enact a 'regime change' then that is perfect icing on the cake. Cause you cannot force that.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2025 11:58 PM (/lPRQ)
Pluto had listed the 2002 Count of Monte Cristo and showed me the 1975 Count of Monte Cristo.
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 11:59 PM (VofaG)
Iran was pretty isolated in the moment.
Posted by: garrett at June 21, 2025 11:59 PM (MmNOR)
The Iranian people are on their own now. I pray they will rise up against the tyranny and make their country great again.
Posted by: four seasons at June 21, 2025 11:59 PM (3ek7K)
Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 11:59 PM (DNJiU)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 21, 2025 11:56 PM (bss/y)
Don't you hate when that happens?
Posted by: Monica! at June 21, 2025 11:59 PM (gKWVE)
==
Due to the proven fact that Iran was supplying IEDs to Afghanistan while we were there, the logical argument can be made that they are Allies of the Taliban, and thus covered by the Anti Bin Laden Authorized Use of Force passed by Congress... the one with no expiration date.
Believe me... I hate the idea... but it is a valid legal argument.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2025 11:53 PM (mP0Kj)
Maybe our congresscritters, and other government types, might consider applying expirations more frequently?
Don't we have something like 3 dozen plus "national emergencies" going back several decades?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2025 11:59 PM (ULPxl)
Posted by: garrett
If the Basij street thug militia shows up on the target list, it means the Regime Change game is ON.
Posted by: Miklos used to know this stuff at June 22, 2025 12:00 AM (UYy+W)
Posted by: 13times
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I saw that.
Haven't even had time to try a recipe yet.
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 12:00 AM (rdVOm)
I bet some of those "other targets" Trump mentioned include Iran's oil and gas industry. That's gotta give Xi a major pucker.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 12:00 AM (viF8m)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 12:01 AM (bss/y)
3 carrier task groups
at least 8 B-2 Stealth bombers (6 decoys)
multiple submarines
There will be no prolonged war with Iran.
With IDF intel and US might it's just a matter of mopping up now.
I welcome asshole terror cells here in the US
The Trailer Park Boys can fuck these guy up.
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 22, 2025 12:01 AM (gAN4h)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 22, 2025 12:02 AM (RIvkX)
Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 12:02 AM (+qU29)
Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 12:03 AM (3ek7K)
Posted by: scampydog
*Presents mildly expired Early Bird discount coupon*
We can still do this, right?
Posted by: Miklos, Night Owl at June 22, 2025 12:03 AM (UYy+W)
Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 12:02 AM (+qU29)
Are you playing 4 suit?
Posted by: tankdemon at June 22, 2025 12:03 AM (uyIjy)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2025 12:03 AM (IG2sK)
Grok thinks Fordow would need pretty big "ventilation tunnels" being the proper term, rather than "air shaft". UF6 gas is highly toxic, and they'd need some significant air exchange capability in case of a leak. A shit ton of centrifuges also needs some serious HVAC itself.
Grok thinks, with 12 GBU-57s, this was a massive seal-off, entombment thing, and not a directly blow the thing up. Collapse the entrances and ventilation tunnels all around it.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 22, 2025 12:04 AM (w6EFb)
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2025 11:46 PM (VofaG)
Unfortunately, you can't tell the Dems any National Security secrets in adbvance, like bombing plans, as they'd blab them somewhere, probably to Iran. The Dems are the 'Domestic Enemy' mentioned in the military oath.
Posted by: RickZ at June 21, 2025 11:50 PM (gKDq2)
Sure you can. You have to strip them down to their underwear, do a full cavity search, tell them, and, finally, lock them in a room with a bed, toilet, sink, and a glass. Once the op is over, release them.
They get their warning, but have no way to share it.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 22, 2025 12:05 AM (S/Y4j)
Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 21, 2025 11:59 PM (DNJiU)
Rubio is going to get the Trump endorsement in 28...
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 22, 2025 12:05 AM (gAN4h)
The Iranian people are on their own now. I pray they will rise up against the tyranny and make their country great again.
Posted by: four seasons
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Yeah, this one causes me to pause - nation building thing - who all are going to be nosing around/pulling levers. The regime has to go, but what does the vacuum create. The IRGC and whatever other "police powers" they have - to keep the masses beaten down, number 600K or so, plus reserves. Or so the interwebz tells me. Population of 90M or so.
Posted by: scampydog at June 22, 2025 12:05 AM (41CYW)
Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 12:07 AM (VofaG)
Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 12:07 AM (+qU29)
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 22, 2025 12:07 AM (/lPRQ)
Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 12:02 AM (+qU29)
I made it to level 151 so far on plain Solitaire expert level. I have enough Microsoft credits to buy a Happy Meal... ..
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 22, 2025 12:08 AM (gAN4h)
Posted by: JackStraw
Maybe.
Or Iran's oil infrastructure has been scrupulously left alone so that a new government can sell unsanctioned oil. No Chinese discount.
Bad for Chicoms, but money for a post-Mullah government. No disruption to global energy markets, not good for Putin....
Posted by: Miklos, unpredictful but thinkin' at June 22, 2025 12:08 AM (UYy+W)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2025 12:03 AM (IG2sK)
You'll get a mullah wearing a tu-tu and you'll be damn happy about it.
Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 12:08 AM (gKDq2)
Posted by: The Mullahs at June 21, 2025 10:46
Now that right there is what I call a threadwinner!
Posted by: Farmer, with his own historical take at June 22, 2025 12:09 AM (55Qr6)
Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 12:09 AM (3ek7K)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2025 12:03 AM (IG2sK)
You'll get a mullah wearing a tu-tu and you'll be damn happy about it.
Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 12:08 AM (gKDq2)
Somebody got a goat.
I got a rock.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 22, 2025 12:10 AM (S/Y4j)
Posted by: Smell the Glove
Bing !!! [images]
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 22, 2025 12:10 AM (/lPRQ)
Posted by: 13times at June 22, 2025 12:10 AM (jAG+j)
Posted by: polynikes
Vivian Vance was an award winning actress and widely respected by her colleagues
Posted by: Miklos has never been a Honeymooner at June 22, 2025 12:11 AM (UYy+W)
Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 12:11 AM (DNJiU)
Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 12:11 AM (VofaG)
Posted by: davidt at June 22, 2025 12:11 AM (i0F8b)
Posted by: JackStraw
Maybe.
Or Iran's oil infrastructure has been scrupulously left alone so that a new government can sell unsanctioned oil. No Chinese discount.
Bad for Chicoms, but money for a post-Mullah government. No disruption to global energy markets, not good for Putin....
Posted by: Miklos
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This too, has me noodling. If a bunch of Morons were planning this, hitting what else would benefit the USA and/or create headaches for those diddling with our economy/security, etc.? What would the other targets be?
Posted by: scampydog at June 22, 2025 12:11 AM (41CYW)
https://tinyurl.com/3ccmzb5s
This does not look like a mountain...
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 12:12 AM (bss/y)
I should be in bed.
Skimming the Twats but @OSINTTechnical is saying CNN is reporting 12 bunker busters were dropped on Fordow, not six.
Two bunkers busters were dropped on Natanz along with the Tomahawks.
Posted by: Robert at June 22, 2025 12:12 AM (W05dk)
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 22, 2025 12:13 AM (0nHVk)
Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 12:08 AM (gKDq2)
He just wants to live his life this way.
Posted by: gKWVE at June 22, 2025 12:13 AM (gKWVE)
Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 12:14 AM (DNJiU)
Arabs like the strong horse.
>>@guyelster
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>>1h
No radioactive traces have been detected in the environment of Saudi Arabia or other Arab Gulf states following the US strikes on Iran's nuclear facilities, Saudi Arabia's nuclear regulator said
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 12:14 AM (viF8m)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 22, 2025 12:14 AM (63Dwl)
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 12:14 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Miklos has never been a Honeymooner at June 22, 2025 12:11 AM (UYy+W)
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And Fred Merz ended up Chancellor of Germany. Weird!
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 22, 2025 12:14 AM (dDmld)
Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 12:15 AM (+qU29)
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2025 11:15 PM (EVFZ5)
Ram it, ram it, ram it, ram it up the poop chute!
Posted by: Zombie Frank Zappa at June 22, 2025 12:15 AM (8hxDK)
He had a good comeback to the Jose thing:
I would like to apologize to the senator from CA for calling him the wring name, but if you expect me to apologize for all the fantastic work the men and women at ICE and CPB have been doing the past few months I say, no-way-Jose.
Posted by: LizLem at June 22, 2025 12:15 AM (gWBY1)
https://tinyurl.com/3ccmzb5s
This does not look like a mountain...
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 12:12 AM (bss/y)
The mountain came to Mohammed. So I'm told.
Posted by: Robert at June 22, 2025 12:15 AM (W05dk)
Posted by: 13times at June 22, 2025 12:17 AM (jAG+j)
We can still do this, right?
Posted by: Miklos
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*Checks with JQ* Would you prefer a high-top or a booth?
Posted by: scampydog at June 22, 2025 12:17 AM (41CYW)
Posted by: scampydog
I have NFTG when it comes to the turmoil about to erupt there. For 46 years they have been one of the main sources of the mayhem that has dominated the world. At this juncture , it's reasonable to assume a majority of the population doesn’t support the regime. I will wager that wasn't the case in the beginning. Let them sort it out themselves. My only regret is we didn't save a bunker buster to shove up the Ayatollah's ass on our way home. Leave them to clean up their own mess.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at June 22, 2025 12:18 AM (F31MH)
@FilmLadd
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1h
Have your nuclear facilities been unfairly wiped off the face of the planet when you were only weeks away from getting nukes? Are you sitting in a bunker terrified of getting a bullet between the eyes?
You may be entitled to compensation!
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R A W S A L E R T S
@rawsalerts
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2h
🚨#BREAKING: Iran has announced that it will pursue legal action against the United States attacks.
Posted by: Piper at June 22, 2025 12:18 AM (pZEOD)
Posted by: scampydog
Give about 12,000 Navy Personnel (Marines get Crayons) #twoweeks Shore Leave in Qatar and $100 each at the Class 6
Posted by: Miklos has Ideas at June 22, 2025 12:19 AM (UYy+W)
https://tinyurl.com/3ccmzb5s
This does not look like a mountain...
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 12:12 AM (bss/y)
Maybe Natanz or one of the 'other' sites.
Posted by: davidt at June 22, 2025 12:19 AM (i0F8b)
Posted by: Robert at June 22, 2025 12:15 AM (W05dk)
Sure, Mohammed raped the Mountain's daughter, Hill. The Mountain most defintely came to Mohammed.
Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 12:19 AM (gKDq2)
Posted by: MAYOR PETE at June 21, 2025 11:22 PM (R6Hhu)
I call him "Big Mike".
Posted by: Barry O at June 22, 2025 12:21 AM (8hxDK)
If we can give any covert support to a mullah overthrow, great, but I am wary of yet another Bush style intevention.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 22, 2025 12:21 AM (ajDWy)
Enjoyed talking with everyone and my parole officer sounds hopeful.
Thanks to WeaselBell productions!
BTW, I'll take credit for the Dodge Destiny comment above.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 22, 2025 12:21 AM (lIgBp)
Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 12:21 AM (+qU29)
>>Or Iran's oil infrastructure has been scrupulously left alone so that a new government can sell unsanctioned oil. No Chinese discount.
>>Bad for Chicoms, but money for a post-Mullah government. No disruption to global energy markets, not good for Putin....
And either outcome is great for us.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 12:21 AM (viF8m)
Posted by: scampydog
A BOOTH
Insolent whippersnapper
JQ-Talk to his Manager!
Posted by: Miklos has several quasi-expired coupons and Greenbax Stamps at June 22, 2025 12:22 AM (UYy+W)
Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude
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Pretty much sums up my thoughts too. I don't like any of the nation building meddling - from any side. And agree, I'm been mad at Iran since '79.
Posted by: scampydog at June 22, 2025 12:22 AM (41CYW)
If we can give any covert support to a mullah overthrow, great, but I am wary of yet another Bush style intevention.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 22, 2025 12
We already had 2 poopers at this party. That is the limit. Moose out front should have told you.
Posted by: Piper at June 22, 2025 12:24 AM (pZEOD)
Posted by: Piper at June 22, 2025 12:18 AM (pZEOD)
That just reeks of desperation, calling in the Dewey, Cheatham & Howe boys.
Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 12:24 AM (gKDq2)
Posted by: scampydog
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Both available right now. Your choice, Miklos!
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 12:24 AM (rdVOm)
Sock Monkey,
You are right. It's on them now to finish the job.
We have no business nation building.
Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 12:24 AM (3ek7K)
With Vic Morrow! and Pvt Kirby in tonight's episode 'Kirby get his ass chewed out'
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 22, 2025 12:24 AM (gAN4h)
Posted by: scampydog at June 22, 2025 12:22 AM (41CYW)
That said, was the late Colin Powell correct when he admonished the Bush Administration about Iraq, that "if you break it, you buy it..." ???
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 22, 2025 12:25 AM (ajDWy)
Normal Saddy Nite here
Lotta bottles broken, some blood shed, but hell it is SADDYNITE
Posted by: Miklos at Bob's Country Bunker at June 22, 2025 12:25 AM (UYy+W)
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 12:26 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 22, 2025 12:26 AM (PGK1w)
A lovely 56 degrees here in SW Wyoming. Supposed to be 34 degrees in the morning. It's wonderful.
Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 12:27 AM (3ek7K)
First there is a mountain, then there is no mountain, then there is
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 22, 2025 12:14 AM (63Dwl)
-Donavan circa 1965
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 22, 2025 12:27 AM (gAN4h)
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 22, 2025 12:21 AM (ajDWy)
Only the US has The Bunker Buster. Israel seemingly couldn't reach the depth that we can and Iran went deep with its nuclear ambitions.
This was an assist by the US, nothing more. In my opinion, natch.
Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 12:28 AM (gKDq2)
Posted by: Piper at June 22, 2025 12:24 AM (pZEOD)
Sorry, I can't just mindlessly cheerlead. Promises of "cakewalks" and "flowers and kisses from the masses" are remembered. Of course the mullah's Iran had it coming, but isn't that what we in effect pay Israel to do for us? That military and other foreign aid means *something* after all.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 22, 2025 12:28 AM (ajDWy)
Did I miss anything else in the last 8 hours? Ha.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 12:28 AM (uCjyK)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 12:28 AM (xC2Ng)
Posted by: JQ
Booth
If appropriate and necessary, they can just cover me with the table cloths, lock up, and wake me in the morning.
Posted by: This..actually..Happened and Miklos was THERE at June 22, 2025 12:28 AM (UYy+W)
Posted by: 13times at June 22, 2025 12:17 AM (jAG+j)
VDH is one of those name check "conservative commentators."
Until I hear him on Rogan, he doesn't have much resonance outside the Fox News bubble.
Posted by: Thart at June 22, 2025 12:29 AM (r2ymA)
If/when there is regime-change in Iran there will be a mad rush of crooks to get a piece of the action, probably led by the UN.
Posted by: davidt at June 22, 2025 12:29 AM (i0F8b)
Husband of Debbie Reynolds, and later Elizabeth Taylor. Sold millions of records, had a TV show.
Lawn, get off of it.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 22, 2025 12:29 AM (XeU6L)
Posted by: Curmudgeon
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Fair question. I would need more space than the grey boxes permit to chat about Colin Powell - I know, I'm not directly answering your question.
Posted by: scampydog at June 22, 2025 12:29 AM (41CYW)
davidt, Exactly right.
Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 12:29 AM (3ek7K)
This was an assist by the US, nothing more. In my opinion, natch.
Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 12:28 AM (gKDq2)
I am honestly surprised that isn't item #1 on the Israeli shopping list. Heck, I am amazed that Israel didn't come up with it *first* and offer it to us.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 22, 2025 12:30 AM (ajDWy)
Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 12:31 AM (+qU29)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 22, 2025 12:32 AM (63Dwl)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs
From the UNWRA?
They paid for a lot of kaboom-y stuff
Posted by: Late Nite Miklos at June 22, 2025 12:32 AM (UYy+W)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 12:33 AM (xC2Ng)
Dude. Split this pitcher of Margaritas with me?
*pouts*
Did you see how nobody even noticed when I shimmied? That's just.. sad.
*pours from pitcher, into glasses*
*sigh*
Gettin' too old, I reckon.
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 12:34 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Creepy Widow's peak Competitors at June 22, 2025 12:34 AM (UYy+W)
Shit
Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 12:34 AM (3ek7K)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey
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How's the mood over there this morning?
Posted by: scampydog at June 22, 2025 12:34 AM (41CYW)
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 22, 2025 12:30 AM (ajDWy)
The US has probably declined the sale of them to anyone. Plus, you need a delivery system/plane such as the B-2. The US ain't sell that either.
Posted by: davidt at June 22, 2025 12:34 AM (i0F8b)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 22, 2025 12:34 AM (XeU6L)
Posted by: Piper at June 22, 2025 12:35 AM (pZEOD)
*sigh*
Gettin' too old, I reckon.
Posted by: JQ
*Did not realize that this is the Third Pitcher*
Posted by: Miklos also forgot his vintage X-Ray Glasses at June 22, 2025 12:35 AM (UYy+W)
Posted by: scampydog at June 22, 2025 12:34 AM (41CYW)
-
Happy. Expected. Ain't over till it's over. Need to monitor status of incoming. l8r.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 12:36 AM (xC2Ng)
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 12:36 AM (rdVOm)
Bourbon and water lasts longer.
I catch on eventually... Duh
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 22, 2025 12:36 AM (gAN4h)
Posted by: Piper at June 22, 2025 12:36 AM (pZEOD)
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 22, 2025 12:36 AM (E0dBg)
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 22, 2025 12:36 AM (0nHVk)
Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 12:37 AM (+qU29)
Yay Skip!
Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 12:37 AM (3ek7K)
Posted by: scampydog at June 22, 2025 12:37 AM (41CYW)
Feets Don’t Fail Me Now!
Posted by: nurse ratched
The One Nurse in the world I would encourage to do a TikTok dance
Posted by: Miklos spins up some Sam Cooke at June 22, 2025 12:38 AM (UYy+W)
Miklos, what would you like?
All at the bar, make room for another!
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 12:39 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 12:28 AM (xC2Ng)
Yeah how apropos....
Stay safe
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 22, 2025 12:39 AM (gAN4h)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 12:39 AM (viF8m)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 22, 2025 12:39 AM (/CkK4)
Thirty years of grifting off "Iran is days from getting The Bomb!" down the drain...
Posted by: Endless Wars at June 22, 2025 12:39 AM (6keFU)
Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 12:40 AM (+qU29)
Posted by: scampydog at June 22, 2025 12:29 AM (41CYW)
Powell, was a savvy political operator, and became a corruptocrat early in his military career. It's why he rose to the level he did. It certainly wasn't in any way meriotcratic, lol.
Posted by: Thart at June 22, 2025 12:40 AM (r2ymA)
Where are the missiles coming from in Iran? Can't those sites be taken out?
Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 12:41 AM (3ek7K)
Posted by: runner at June 22, 2025 12:41 AM (9ShvG)
*puts dollar in the jukebox*
youtu.be/yaHEfJApEVM
Name your drink. It's on the house.
Hope you enjoyed the concert!
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 12:42 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 12:42 AM (wToEB)
All at the bar, make room for another!
Posted by: JQ
One Unicum
One Xtabentun
And a straw
Posted by: Miklos, the world's only Hungarian Mayan at June 22, 2025 12:42 AM (UYy+W)
Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 12:42 AM (+qU29)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 12:43 AM (wToEB)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 22, 2025 12:43 AM (63Dwl)
Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 12:43 AM (+qU29)
Posted by: davidt at June 22, 2025 12:34 AM (i0F8b)
I keep forgetting that point, and it is an excellent one.
When we use our arsenal in a responsible war-mongering manner, we can be very successful. But when we try to do a military job on the cheap, it invariably fails.
This seemed well-planned and well-coordinated. This tells the world, if they didn't know it already, President Trump is not here to play.
Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 12:44 AM (gKDq2)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 12:44 AM (wToEB)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 12:39 AM (viF8m)
Shocker.
Hopefully our troops in Syria, Iraq, etc. etc. aren't targeted.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 12:45 AM (uCjyK)
We have the largest law firm in the country
Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 12:45 AM (+qU29)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 22, 2025 12:47 AM (/CkK4)
Posted by: RickZ
Oh, Trump is ready to play.
But the odds are in favor of the House. Stacked, even.
The White one, where he lives.
Posted by: Miklos bets on 47 red at June 22, 2025 12:47 AM (UYy+W)
*calls Uber for Piper*
Sorry, can't let you drive tonight. Will come get you tomorrow & bring you back to pick up your car.
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 12:47 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 12:41 AM (3ek7K)
I would bet Iran is using mobile launching vehicles. Iran has to keep them moving around or they are a sitting target.
Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 12:47 AM (gKDq2)
Oh well.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
So could you
Sad!
Posted by: Miklos never wanted to be President much at June 22, 2025 12:48 AM (UYy+W)
Why wouldn't they be? They've been targeted and attacked by Iran for decades.
I still don't understand how some of you don't understand this. It was in the news and everything.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 12:48 AM (viF8m)
Also had the claim to fame of "I have my own TV". Younger brother still resents me for this. But that fuker got the first personal phone line and a new Ford Ranger at 16.
Kids these days have no idea the struggle.
Posted by: Reforger at June 22, 2025 12:48 AM (LgDgc)
Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 12:48 AM (3ek7K)
*calls Uber for Piper*
Sorry, can't let you drive tonight. Will come get you tomorrow & bring you back to pick up your car.
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025
Perfect. Will text when I am up! 😂
Posted by: Piper at June 22, 2025 12:48 AM (QzINz)
Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 12:40 AM (+qU29)
From the rumors of flights leaving Iran, moving their families somewhere safe.
Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 12:48 AM (gKDq2)
Posted by: Megthered at June 22, 2025 12:49 AM (GOJbT)
Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 12:49 AM (DNJiU)
We have the largest law firm in the country
Posted by: Skip
I was the victim in a car accident with a lawyer from Morgan and Morgan
Posted by: Miklos does not expect Justice at June 22, 2025 12:50 AM (UYy+W)
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 22, 2025 12:51 AM (J+OHH)
I wanna see that roulette table.
Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 12:51 AM (gKDq2)
Posted by: ... at June 22, 2025 12:51 AM (E0p3T)
Posted by: 13times at June 22, 2025 12:51 AM (jAG+j)
https://youtu.be/cCeNXyHgtvM?
si=svUbPR6wHtcMfU6r
Posted by: Beverly at June 22, 2025 12:52 AM (Epeb0)
Posted by: runner at June 22, 2025 12:52 AM (9ShvG)
Posted by: Megthered at June 22, 2025 12:52 AM (GOJbT)
Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 12:52 AM (DNJiU)
Purple fingers you say!!
-Rosa DeLauro
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 22, 2025 12:53 AM (gAN4h)
Oh well.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 22, 2025 12:47 AM (/CkK4)
Aww, this poor little cuck has the big sadz that his death to America buddies won't be allowed to freely murder and threaten more Americans.
Get back to your David Carradine routine and you'll feel better again.
Posted by: Sjg at June 22, 2025 12:53 AM (aqZN1)
I still don't understand how some of you don't understand this. It was in the news and everything.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 12:48 AM (viF8m)
It is true that on the one hand, the media and our intel communities are often correct, honest, and without an agenda, we also have to remember that on the other hand, there is a huge difference between plausible deniability when it comes to attacking US troops through proxies and openly fighting a war against a country.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 12:53 AM (uCjyK)
Oh well.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
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*checks notes*
1979 - hostages
1983 241 Marines, Beirut
'87 or '88 - mines in Persian Gulf -
Dunno the year - Khobar bombing
Various years - proxy bombings
Current - Threatening to kill our President
Iran has been waging war - if we are going to classify it as such.
Posted by: scampydog at June 22, 2025 12:54 AM (41CYW)
Posted by: RickZ
It's classy, really the best, that much I can tell you
Posted by: Miklos would be happy if he could do a good Trump impersonation at June 22, 2025 12:54 AM (UYy+W)
Posted by: Piper
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You get up *very early* don't you?
Ohhhh, I just know tomorrow's gonna hurt.... LOL!
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 12:54 AM (rdVOm)
Oh well.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 22, 2025 12:47 AM (/CkK4)
The "war with Iran" will not even be among the top five stories come August or maybe even late July. Trump is speaking the only language the mullahs understand and they will get the fucking picture, bigly.
When the civilized world comes out smelling like a rose from this, Democrats will surely "move on" to the next phony scandal. I am saying late July here but it will probably be much sooner.
Then what will happen?
Posted by: ... at June 22, 2025 12:55 AM (E0p3T)
Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 12:56 AM (+qU29)
Posted by: Megthered at June 22, 2025 12:49 AM (GOJbT)
Imagine if the "sleeper cells" were actually the mush-head American kids brainwashed by the Universities, lead and incited by foreign actors who are here en masse. And not so much targeted suicidal terrorist attacks but actual mass riots/attacks throwing things into chaos.
Posted by: The call is coming from INSIDE the house at June 22, 2025 12:56 AM (8hxDK)
Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 12:48 AM (3ek7K)
Watch a Russian/Korean military parade, they have them as a show of strength. Missle launchers are extremely long wheeled vehicles and while I'm sure they use the darkness, the darkness is no longer safe. I'm sure Israel can track a lot of the vehicles, as can we with spy satellites/SR 72s. But some will always elude discovery.
Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 12:57 AM (gKDq2)
Mike Pence Praises Trump for U.S. Strikes on Iranian Nuclear Sites: ‘Right Call’
Hard Anti-Trumper Adam Kinzinger: ‘Right Call’ to Bomb Iran Nuclear Facilities
Exclusive: Rasmussen Poll Showed Support for Airstrike on Iran — Not Ground Troops
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 22, 2025 12:58 AM (gAN4h)
Posted by: ... at June 22, 2025 12:58 AM (E0p3T)
Posted by: JQ
I think there are still 4 or 5 Whippets behind the bar
And the thing
Posted by: Miklos tryina help at June 22, 2025 12:58 AM (UYy+W)
Posted by: ...
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It's because Russia is no longer "soviet" IMO.
Demoncrats :heart: commie ussr, but now feel betrayed.
Hahahahahahaha
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 12:58 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 12:59 AM (3ek7K)
But let me just say that this is, at best, one of the most extreme cases of Gell-Mann amnesia effect I've ever seen.
And not just with media, with our government.
The government who lied to us about everything throughout Covid, who lied about WMD's in Iraq, who claims (with a straight face) that the biggest national security threats to the US are white supremacists and global warming is the same government telling us all kind of information about what is going on in Iran, and what Iran is responsible for, and how the Iranian people feel, where this will go, etc. etc. etc.
Just like they did with Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen, and we can go all the way back to Vietnam and see the same pattern.
And yet we're all supposed to take it on blind faith that THIS TIME it's different. Why would any reasonable person do that?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 12:59 AM (uCjyK)
1979 - hostages
1983 241 Marines, Beirut
'87 or '88 - mines in Persian Gulf -
Dunno the year - Khobar bombing
Various years - proxy bombings
Current - Threatening to kill our President
Iran has been waging war - if we are going to classify it as such.
Posted by: scampydog at June 22, 2025 12:54 AM (41CYW)
Oh I see. This is for the hostages. JFC.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 22, 2025 12:59 AM (/CkK4)
Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 01:00 AM (+qU29)
It won't be a war.
Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 01:00 AM (3ek7K)
Holy Chit!
What has happened to turn those assholes around?
Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 12:59 AM (3ek7K)
Polls and/or grifting strategy.
Posted by: The call is coming from INSIDE the house at June 22, 2025 01:00 AM (8hxDK)
And yet we're all supposed to take it on blind faith that THIS TIME it's different. Why would any reasonable person do that?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 12:59 AM (uCjyK)
But bro, they too hostages 45 years ago. It’s totally legit. Fox News totally agrees.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 22, 2025 01:00 AM (/CkK4)
Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 12:56 AM (+qU29)
Try getting a job as a construction worker and waking at 5:30 am for work.
You're welcome
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 22, 2025 01:00 AM (gAN4h)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 01:00 AM (DGFJg)
Posted by: Miklos tryina help
LOL! Reminds me of a guy I worked with, at a bar, long ago.
We had a few snacks for sale, including the canned cheese stuff. Well, that fker would huff the propellant from the all cheese cans. Buy one & pfft-- no cheese! Ooops, guess "mikey" got to it first! Grrrrr.
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 01:02 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 01:02 AM (3ek7K)
And that destroyer anchored they blew a hole in the side - killed 12 sailors.
Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 01:02 AM (DNJiU)
Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 12:40 AM (+qU29)
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My money is on "whine."
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 22, 2025 01:03 AM (dDmld)
Trump just pre-crimed Obama's nuclear holocaust.
Posted by: 13times at June 22, 2025 01:03 AM (jAG+j)
Maybe we’ll get the cool music from then to come back as well.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 22, 2025 01:03 AM (/CkK4)
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 22, 2025 01:04 AM (gAN4h)
Remember when this happened? It was just last year so can't be that hard to remember and nobody denied shit.
>>US hits 85 sites in Iraq, Syria linked to Iran’s IRGC, militias after fatal drone attack
>>Opening strikes target command HQs, intelligence centers, weapons facilities connected to Iran and regional proxies, in response to assault that killed 3 US soldiers
https://tinyurl.com/h6443esj
How many US soldiers and citizens would you say it's ok before we blow the fuck out of the world's leading state sponsor of terrorism?
Just because some of you don't actually follow the news doesn't mean things didn't happen.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 01:04 AM (viF8m)
But after today - after the brilliant multilayered deceptions of the last few weeks, and the decisive hammer today - Donald Trump has surpassed him, and is the greatest President I have ever lived under.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2025 01:04 AM (EVFZ5)
Ship all the drag queens to Iran. They will have a ball.
Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 01:04 AM (3ek7K)
He waited out two hostile American presidents.
He struck when he had a favorable one.
History will tell.
Posted by: Thart at June 22, 2025 01:04 AM (r2ymA)
Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 01:05 AM (+qU29)
Actually then I voted on principles, surrender or get glassed.
Problem still not resolved.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 22, 2025 01:05 AM (/lPRQ)
Amen Tom Servo!!!
Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 01:05 AM (3ek7K)
Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 01:05 AM (+qU29)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 01:05 AM (b7rtK)
Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 01:06 AM (3ek7K)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 01:07 AM (b7rtK)
Posted by: Diogenes at June 22, 2025 01:07 AM (W/lyH)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 22, 2025 12:59 AM (/CkK4)
Point out one brushstroke while ignoring the big picture.
No hostages died, though military did die during the failed rescue mission, Eagle Claw. But other attacks have killed US personell.
I had a t-shirt I bought in '79 with a drawing of the Assatollah Khomeini and underneath, like an FBI poster in a Post Office, it read: Wanted For Kidnapping And Terrorism. He's dead, but the funeral was a hoot (the body fell out of the coffin). But there are other asshole's following in that original asshole's footsteps who jus' need killin'.
Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 01:08 AM (gKDq2)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 12:59 AM (uCjyK)
Why would any reasonable person - in fact why would anyone who isn’t a drooling idiot - say that Donald Trump is the exact same person as George W Bush?
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2025 01:08 AM (EVFZ5)
Posted by: scampydog at June 22, 2025 01:08 AM (41CYW)
Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 01:00 AM (3ek7K)
I hope you're right. We'll see.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:09 AM (uCjyK)
And here I was thinking it was for regime change. No wait it’s because Iran is only 3 seconds away from getting nukes (like they’ve been for the past 20 years).
This is just like Iraq. All sorts of reason to go to war. They had wmd. They were involved in 9/11. They hate us for our democracy. And on and on.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 22, 2025 01:09 AM (/CkK4)
Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 01:09 AM (3ek7K)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 12:59 AM (uCjyK)
Because Trump is different.
Posted by: ... at June 22, 2025 01:11 AM (E0p3T)
Posted by: four seasons
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Yeah, it's funny now, but not when we were hungry and still *stuck at work for hours* (and knew that the problem was due to some jackass coworker what was a selfish stoner fktard)
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 01:11 AM (rdVOm)
Because it’s a ridiculous premise. It has zero to do with hostages. At least justify the nookoolar angle don’t go back 50 years.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 22, 2025 01:12 AM (/CkK4)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 12:59 AM (uCjyK)
Trump. Trump is different.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 01:12 AM (oSeBJ)
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2025 01:08 AM (EVFZ5)
Maybe this is where the disconnect is. George W Bush ran as an anti-war president, too. While I think he was more inclined to war than Trump, especially with his family history, I don't think the Iraq war, for example, was W's brainchild.
I think he was being truthful when he said the CIA told him that Saddam had WMD's and was going to use them on Americans, and that Iraq was the largest state sponsor of terrorism in the world.
Just like I think Trump was being truthful when he said that Fauci and Birx and his top advisors told him if he didn't do "15 days to flatten the curve" millions of people would die.
In other words, I think it's clear, ESPECIALLY since Trump 1.0, then 4 years of a brain dead Biden, that there is truly a "Deep State" who drives a lot of what happens in DC and the world. They control what info gets to the president, whose advise he hears, and they are clearly totally okay with lying to the american people and to US presidents.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:12 AM (uCjyK)
Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 01:12 AM (+qU29)
Posted by: Skip
Either they have donned their burkas and are trying to look inconspicuous as they sneak across the bordrr or they are gathered around the well peaking over the edge wondering when he is going to show up.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at June 22, 2025 01:13 AM (F31MH)
Posted by: DJ Mullah Miklos at June 22, 2025 01:13 AM (UYy+W)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 01:13 AM (b7rtK)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 01:14 AM (viF8m)
Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 01:14 AM (+qU29)
Drop a JDAM and bullseye the well
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 01:14 AM (b7rtK)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 22, 2025 01:14 AM (/CkK4)
Posted by: Gen. Mark "Thoroughly Modern" Milley at June 22, 2025 01:14 AM (dDmld)
Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 01:00 AM (3ek7K)
I hope you're right. We'll see.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:09 AM (uCjyK)
It's already war. Our best hope is Iran can't play on our level. I'm hopeful that will prove out.
Posted by: Thart at June 22, 2025 01:15 AM (r2ymA)
Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others at June 22, 2025 01:15 AM (DNJiU)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
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Adjective
momentous (comparative more momentous, superlative most momentous)
Outstanding in importance, of great consequence.
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 01:16 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 01:16 AM (b7rtK)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 01:14 AM (viF8m)
Broken clocks.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 22, 2025 01:16 AM (/CkK4)
Dude. Split this pitcher of Margaritas with me?
*pouts*
Did you see how nobody even noticed when I shimmied? That's just.. sad.
*pours from pitcher, into glasses*
*sigh*
Gettin' too old, I reckon.
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 12:34 AM (rdVOm)
You didn't get the 20$ tip I slipped thru the USB port?
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at June 22, 2025 01:16 AM (QGaXH)
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2025 01:08 AM (EVFZ5)
Which is just revealing about the Demunist Commiecrat Left.
The same "(president) = New Hitler" nonsense, even though Donald Trump has very different positions on trade, immigration, and, until now, foreign intervention. (I do suspect Trump was handed some actual intel on this matter to cause him to no longer be reticent about the foreign intervention).
Now is the Deep State playing Trump for a fool with bad intel again, like they did with COVID-19 hype? I sadly wouldn't rule that out either, but I can't help but think a sadder but wiser Trump 2.0 now knows which Republicans are on his side and which are not.
NOTE: I am NOT saying those who doubt these military airstrikes are Leftists, I doubted them myself, thinking Israel had safely handled it for us, like they did with Iraq circa 1981.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 22, 2025 01:16 AM (ajDWy)
Posted by: braenyard- Some friends are more equal than others
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Same here. But it does work wonders!
Posted by: scampydog at June 22, 2025 01:17 AM (41CYW)
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Just like I think Trump was being truthful when he said that Fauci and Birx and his top advisors told him if he didn't do "15 days to flatten the curve" millions of people would die.
In other words, I think it's clear, ESPECIALLY since Trump 1.0, then 4 years of a brain dead Biden, that there is truly a "Deep State" who drives a lot of what happens in DC and the world. They control what info gets to the president, whose advise he hears, and they are clearly totally okay with lying to the american people and to US presidents.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
Well... God... maybe you are right ?!
Safest for all is that Iranian women be safegarded for reproductive purposes and the rest of the place get glassed.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 22, 2025 01:17 AM (/lPRQ)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 22, 2025 01:14 AM (/CkK4)
You've said, about fifty times now, that Trump just started a war.
Which Marine divisions are marching on Tehran?
Did you mourn Solimani this hard? Did you tell everyone Trump started a war then?
Explain why you didn't or explain why you did and were wrong.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 01:17 AM (oSeBJ)
Anyone who thinks Trump started a war today is a retard.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 01:18 AM (viF8m)
Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 01:05 AM (+qU29)
Many people do not know but alcohol is actually a stimulant and sleep disrupter. I hope that helps.
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 22, 2025 01:18 AM (gAN4h)
Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 01:00 AM (+qU29)
511
It won't be a war.
Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 01:00 AM (3ek7K)
You’re both correct, and the idiocy being displayed by some astounds me.
Iran does not have a single operational warplane left in the country - they’ve all been destroyed. Over the last couple of days, the IDF has destroyed most of the small Iranian navy in harbor. Iran has no way to project power except through missiles, the number of which they have left diminished every day. All of their armament factories are now destroyed, and they have no allies left to fight with them. And most importantly of all, their vaunted nuclear program is dead.
And this is after the US has been involved for about 12 hours. Come on, this “war” is already won. Nothing left but mopping up a bit of mess here and there, but Iran is finished.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2025 01:18 AM (EVFZ5)
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK)
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*smooch*
I see it now! Thank you!
*does another shimmy, just because*
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 01:19 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 22, 2025 01:19 AM (snZF9)
I told my adult kids, way before tonight, that Trump is the best POTUS I've ever experienced-- and I can remember Ike's 2 terms quite clearly, & every POTUS since.
I (still) Like Ike, btw.
Posted by: mnw at June 22, 2025 01:20 AM (kd60y)
Because it’s a ridiculous premise. It has zero to do with hostages. At least justify the nookoolar angle don’t go back 50 years.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 22, 2025 01:12 AM (/CkK4)
Uhm, things changed after October 7th, 2023? Then things further changed on November 5th, 2024?
I know, I know. It's hard to keep up with changes, and the implications of those changes.
Basically, Iran fucked around and is now finding out. Plus the friggin' History. The bombing raid is well-deserved and well-earned. If the mullahs are already boohooing about getting lawyers involved, this war is over.
Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 01:22 AM (gKDq2)
Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 01:22 AM (3ek7K)
Benadryl makes me woozy
Sunshine on my shoulder makes me cry.Sunshine on my shoulders makes me happy
Sunshine in my eyes can make me cry
Sunshine on the water looks so lovely
Sunshine almost always makes me high
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 22, 2025 01:22 AM (gAN4h)
Posted by: JackStraw
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Hear, hear!
He helped our ally. That's all.
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 01:22 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 01:18 AM (viF8m)
As a retard, I think that Trump just got the US involved in another hot war in the Middle East / Central Asia.
Could it fizzle out? Yes. Might it work out perfectly and everyone is happy? Unlikely, but possible.
Is this what many of us who supported Trump voted for? No. We voted for him for two reasons:
1) he repudiated the war in iraq and the entire notion of america being involved in forever wars around the war. He accused the CIA and Bush of lying to the American people to get us in to Iraq.
2) he was going to build a wall between the US and mexico and kick all of the illegals out.
And yet, here we are, involved in another kerfuffle in the ME / CA with almost the exact same talking points and propaganda as Iraq. It's like we're back in 2003.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:23 AM (uCjyK)
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 01:12 AM (oSeBJ)
Yeah, that's pretty much where I'm at. I would rather we don't get involved unless directly attacked. But Trump has earned the benefit of doubt for me.
Posted by: Thart at June 22, 2025 01:23 AM (r2ymA)
Very few of the entries had any weathering, stains, or faded paint. Or badly done like this 1/32 BF 109F-4 that had evenly faded RLM79 upper surfaces. Or the strafer B-25D with the paint in pristine shape.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 01:23 AM (b7rtK)
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 01:23 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2025 01:18 AM (EVFZ5)
I remember when we started "mopping up" Iraq in, what, early 2005?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:24 AM (uCjyK)
The silver lining being it'll only take Iran's theocratic dictator 20 years to rebuild its nuclear weapons infrastructure. So there's that.
Posted by: 13times at June 22, 2025 01:25 AM (jAG+j)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 01:14 AM (b7rtK)
I said that about the kaaba in Mecca after 9/11.
Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 01:25 AM (gKDq2)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:23 AM (uCjyK)
You voted for the guy who spent twenty years saying Iran can never be permitted to get the bomb and then publicly shit yourself when he kept his word.
I don't get it.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 01:25 AM (oSeBJ)
So the next whatever is going to appear from a fucking well??? People believe that shit?
Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 01:26 AM (3ek7K)
SLC-40 - Cape Canaveral SFS - Space Affairs Live
Launch Date: June 22, 2025
Launch Time: 1:57 a.m. EDT, 0557 UTC, 0757 CEST
https://www.youtube.com/live/M0Ltg8mXro0
Posted by: Ciampino - Falcon 9 Launch at June 22, 2025 01:27 AM (sPQoU)
Posted by: mnw at June 22, 2025 01:20 AM (kd60y)
Ooh - you’ve been around the block! I was born when Ike was Pres, but I can’t say I remember him. I do remember Saturday mornings when VP Hubert Humphrey would come on TV and make PSA’s to the kids, first politician I ever really noticed.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2025 01:27 AM (EVFZ5)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 01:27 AM (b7rtK)
Posted by: four seasons
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The same "people" that believe bare women's breasts can cause earthquakes.
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 01:28 AM (rdVOm)
I don't get it.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 01:25 AM (oSeBJ)
This is such a nonsense talking point. You can go through his tweets, or any of his speeches -- he said Obama was stupid, Biden was weak, etc. because they couldn't negotiate a good deal to keep Iran from getting a nuke.
He said "Iran can't have a bomb" because he was accused of being weak and an isolationist, but said he would use his superior negotiating skills to avoid a war.
And yet this same argument about Iran getting a bomb and being two weeks away from getting a bomb has been going on since, what, 2006?
Always just on the cusp of having a nuclear weapon, but thankfully never having one.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:28 AM (uCjyK)
And yet, here we are, involved in another kerfuffle in the ME / CA with almost the exact same talking points and propaganda as Iraq. It's like we're back in 2003.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:23 AM (uCjyK)
Well, there is still that. The every fact the Demunist Commiecrats are crying crocodile tears about all the illegals and trying to thwart him is still strongly in Trump's favor. Indeed, he could justify stronger immigration and border security stances on the grounds that we don't want Iranian sleeper cells, and rousting illegal non-citizens is the best way to make sure none ever appear.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 22, 2025 01:28 AM (ajDWy)
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 01:23 AM (rdVOm)
Hey! Been mostly lurking. Haven't had much time lately. The house...again.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 22, 2025 01:28 AM (snZF9)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 01:29 AM (b7rtK)
Liftoff from Space Launch Complex 40 at Cape Canaveral Space Force Station is scheduled for 1:57 a.m. EDT (0557 UTC) on Sunday, June 22.
https://www.youtube.com/live/W2Cts2eP_rE
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 22, 2025 01:29 AM (J+OHH)
So the next whatever is going to appear from a fucking well??? People believe that shit?
Posted by: four seasons at June 22, 2025 01:26 AM (3ek7K)
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A 'well' but it's really Hell's Gate and Satan will issue forth.
Posted by: Ciampino - The Moon God at June 22, 2025 01:29 AM (sPQoU)
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 01:28 AM (rdVOm)
I don't know about earthquakes, but they can cause tents to appear. In my pants.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 01:29 AM (oSeBJ)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 22, 2025 01:28 AM (snZF9)
Ah you love it 😀
Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 01:30 AM (VofaG)
1) Destroy nuclear capability. *check*
2) Kill most of, if not all Iranian Leaders. *partial credit*
Bonus: Cap Khomeini?
Hell, Israel might be done after tonight. I think Trump intends US to be.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 01:30 AM (bss/y)
Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 01:31 AM (+qU29)
Drop a JDAM and bullseye the well
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 01:14 AM (b7rtK)
I would laugh if, just for tomorrow, some rebel at Google changed their main page image to something depicting Luke bulls-eyeing the Death Star shaft as an undercover tip to the action in Iran today...
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at June 22, 2025 01:31 AM (QGaXH)
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 01:28 AM (rdVOm)
Well... whose boobs are we talking about?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 01:31 AM (bss/y)
Harry paratestes...
Trump keeping his word of twenty years is a nonsense talking point...
Says the guy who believes we just entered a massive land war in Iran. Remind me. Which Marine divisions are closing on Tehran?
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 01:32 AM (oSeBJ)
Someone at the show had the 1/48 SP-2H Neptune kit for sale. Only $470.
The whole kit looked to be 3D printed.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 01:32 AM (b7rtK)
I need to hire somebody like you, Bers! This place is falling apart, LOL. Whatever. It'll be just fiiiiiinnnneee!
Buy you a drink?
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 01:32 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:23 AM (uCjyK)
I share your reservations, but to say that Trump now is anything like Bush in 2003? I'm not seeing it.
Posted by: Thart at June 22, 2025 01:33 AM (r2ymA)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:24 AM (uCjyK)
The war in Iraq was over. It was the endless “Nation Building” that was the source of the misery for us. Same goes for Afghanistan.
I think the Iranians will sort things out, but with the nuke program dead and their missile capability gone (Israel is working on that) I don’t really GAF what happens in Iran internally after this. It doesn’t matter to us - no matter what comes next, it can’t be as bad as it has been the last 46 years.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2025 01:33 AM (EVFZ5)
Some of us with wicked memories remember when your posts were taken down by CBD for being borderline antisemitic. Told you to take sme time off, IIRC. Right?
Still doing business at the same old stand, I see.
Posted by: mnw at June 22, 2025 01:33 AM (kd60y)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 01:33 AM (b7rtK)
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 01:28 AM (rdVOm)
I think that's something that needs to be researched.
Just to be safe.
Posted by: Methos at June 22, 2025 01:33 AM (Dnobf)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 01:18 AM (viF8m)
When History begins the day you are born and you weren't born or cognizant in 1979, you do not understand.
This is different. It seems to be taken lightly that Iran declared war on us. While it's true we didn't give it the time of day, they still are at war with us.
Oh, and taking over a diplomatic embassy and holding hostage those employed there is an Act of War. Has been since there were treaties. I guess people take acts of war lightly these days.
Like an elderly Jewish woman in a documentary on the Holocaust said, 'If people say they want to kill you, believe them.'
Death to America! Believe It Or Not! I, for one, believe them.
Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 01:33 AM (gKDq2)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 01:32 AM (b7rtK)
That's wild!
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 01:34 AM (oSeBJ)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 01:33 AM (b7rtK)
Nice ref.
Greatest American Hero.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 01:34 AM (bss/y)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:24 AM (uCjyK)
Upon what basis do you believe Trump has decided to go against his core beliefs about carrying on these stupid wars? From his book 25 years ago:
"I’m no warmonger. But the fact is, if we decide a strike against Iraq is necessary, it is madness not to carry the mission to its conclusion. When we don’t, we have the worst of all worlds: Iraq remains a threat, and now has more incentive than ever to attack us. Am I being contradictory here, by presenting myself as a deal-maker and then recommending preemptive strikes? I don’t think so. There’s nothing really comparable to unleashing a squadron of bombers, but in the world of business sometimes you have to make quick, secret, decisive moves in order to gain a negotiating advantage."
Posted by: ... at June 22, 2025 01:35 AM (E0p3T)
Then you're historically wrong. It's tiresome constantly pointing out to some of you who think history started 15 minutes ago and completely ignore decades of Iranian aggression and attacks on American people and interests that Iran declared war on the US 46 years ago and has never releneted.
Iran is the world's largest sponsor of state terrorism. They and their proxies have killed hundreds, likely thousands, of US citizens. The have infiltrated South America and are deeply involved in the drug and human trafficking into America. These are not crazed opinions, they are well documented facts. Go ahead and research Hezbollah and South America.
Iran is currently run by religious fanatics who have stated their intention to attack and murder Americans wherever and whenever they can and they do. I just showed you they attacked and murdered 3 Amercian soldiers last year. Are you good with that or should that shit be stopped?
Are you in favor of letting them have nukes? If not detail exactly how you would stop them and if you can't stop complaining.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 01:35 AM (viF8m)
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK)
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*smooch*
I see it now! Thank you!
*does another shimmy, just because*
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 01:19 AM (rdVOm)
blushes bright red.......frantically searches wallet for another 20...considers going to other room to see if wife will loan me one.....wisely reconsiders....
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at June 22, 2025 01:35 AM (QGaXH)
Oh well.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
For fucks sake. How many times does it have to be said that we've been at work with Iran since 1979. We may have not wanted to say it out loud or acknowledge it, but it's true. This navel gazing, preening, crap is annoying.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 22, 2025 01:35 AM (PGK1w)
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 22, 2025 01:36 AM (PGK1w)
Oh so thats wrong?
-George Costanza
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 22, 2025 01:36 AM (gAN4h)
I didn't save the vid link, but I know I saw it here, a few years ago... some towel-head saying that uncovered wimmens was causing earthquakes.
So stooopid! But he was *serious* or, at least pretending to be serious.
*shrugs*
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 01:37 AM (rdVOm)
Here is part 1 of the build of this P2V-7. Got an hour? Unfortunately, his aft fuselage got shattered.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vEAxqMadiM
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2025 01:37 AM (b7rtK)
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Berserker - rofl here. Good to see you. You been busy honing plane blades or something? Cleaning up Harley drips?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 22, 2025 01:37 AM (XeU6L)
I need to hire somebody like you, Bers! This place is falling apart, LOL. Whatever. It'll be just fiiiiiinnnneee!
Buy you a drink?
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 01:32 AM (rdVOm)
If I lived close..
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 22, 2025 01:38 AM (snZF9)
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 22, 2025 01:35 AM (PGK1w)
At some point, you have to realize Harry and Go Time just want the Jews to quietly let themselves be killed.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 01:39 AM (oSeBJ)
Still doing business at the same old stand, I see.
Posted by: mnw at June 22, 2025 01:33 AM (kd60y)
As I recall, CBD accused me of being borderline antisemitic for saying that the Israeli limited operation to rescue hostages in Gaza was going to turn in to a massive war with many dead civilians, and would lead to a massive crisis, and that I didn't think the US should be involved. I said that when it became clear that the rescue operation was actually a massive bombing campaign. And I told him that was an absurd accusation.
I don't think any posts of mine were removed.
But sure, keep fucking that chicken. Any criticism of any war or any foreign policy is antisemitic. That's a great debating tool. Just like calling everything "racist" or "homophobic" or any one who votes R a "nazi".
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:40 AM (uCjyK)
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 01:37 AM (rdVOm)
Is the uncovered woman consensually uncovered with me? Cause that could very well cause a commotion.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 01:41 AM (oSeBJ)
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2025 01:42 AM (EVFZ5)
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 01:39 AM (oSeBJ)
Nah. I don't think that is it. Harry is soaking in lib land. That will fuck with your head.
Go time, he is being contrary and 'ah ha!'ish.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 01:42 AM (bss/y)
Third request: which Marine divisions are marching on Tehran?
Otherwise, stop calling it a "massive war in the ME."
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 01:43 AM (oSeBJ)
Go time, he is being contrary and 'ah ha!'ish.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 01:42 AM (bss/y)
What did Harry say earlier? "Possible, but unlikely."
You could be right, though.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 01:44 AM (oSeBJ)
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 22, 2025 01:44 AM (PGK1w)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 01:45 AM (viF8m)
Honestly, Israel spanking Iran like a spoiled child has been remarkably quiet.
Usually, something like this would set off rockets at Israel, but all of the assholes who would do it are either neck deep already or are afraid of Israel doing the same to them. I dunno.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 01:45 AM (bss/y)
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 01:39 AM (oSeBJ)
No, that's where you misunderstand me, at least. I can't speak for others.
I'm not focused on the Jews or the Muslims or Hindus and the Sikhs or the Houthis and Tutsis or the North or South Koreans.
They have their own issues, and they can sort that out amongst themselves.
Our elected officials need to focus on what is best for America and American citizens. Not what is good or bad for Israel or Iran or Canada or Mexico.
And what's best for American citizens is to not fight in any wars. And how do I know that? We can look at the last 40+ years of what our fucking around all over the world has cost us in money, lives, and lost higher standard of living.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:45 AM (uCjyK)
By that reasoning Mexico has been at war with us at least as long.
Actually Mexico has done a lot more damage.
Posted by: Thart at June 22, 2025 01:46 AM (r2ymA)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
Almost can't wait for your analysis of the correct way to hang the toilet paper roll.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at June 22, 2025 01:46 AM (F31MH)
I don't care for labels as such and don't really give a fuck who you do or don't like and for what reason, but to be fair you did call a terror attack in Amsterdam where jihadist "palestinians" announced they were going on a "Jew-Hunt" a likely example of "soccer hooliganism" because NBC said so.
So whatever you do or don't want to be called - and as much as you do, in the main, make sense - you can be pretty fucking obtuse about a certain subject when you want to.
Posted by: ... at June 22, 2025 01:47 AM (E0p3T)
Otherwise, stop calling it a "massive war in the ME."
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 01:43 AM (oSeBJ)
I don't know what point you're trying to make here. Unless there are marine divisions marching on Tehran, it's not a war?
If Russia dropped 30,000 pound bombs on Cheyenne Mountain, do you think we would consider that a war, or would we say "as long as the red army is still in Europe, we're not at war. Dummie!"
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:47 AM (uCjyK)
SLC-40 - Cape Canaveral SFS - Space Affairs Live
Launch Date: June 22, 2025
Launch Time: 1:57 a.m. EDT, 0557 UTC, 0757 CEST
https://www.youtube.com/live/M0Ltg8mXro0
T - 9 mins
Posted by: Ciampino - The midnight run at June 22, 2025 01:48 AM (sPQoU)
Fuck, the last go round with Harry is what got me on the 'we really need to fucking stop the knee jerk reflexive anti-Semitic witch hunts.'
Disagreeing with what Israel does does not necessarily equal anti-Semitism. It's a sovereign nation. Treating it like how people want to treat blacks or Hispanics is just as wrong in this case. It is harder to separate in this case, I'll agree, but they are just as prone to being fuck ups as anyone.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 01:48 AM (bss/y)
Honestly, Israel spanking Iran like a spoiled child has been remarkably quiet.
Usually, something like this would set off rockets at Israel, but all of the assholes who would do it are either neck deep already or are afraid of Israel doing the same to them. I dunno.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 01:45 AM (bss/y)
I agree with what some others have said about the rest of the Arab world being glad to let Israel handle the mad mullahs for them.
With that...good night all.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at June 22, 2025 01:49 AM (QGaXH)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:45 AM (uCjyK)
And how many more dead Americans must be sacrificed on the altar of "we can never fight anyone for anything, ever?"
I didn't realize you were the Neville Chamberlain of the Horde. Peace at any price.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 01:49 AM (oSeBJ)
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 22, 2025 01:49 AM (PGK1w)
1) Hezbollah finally collapses for good in Lebanon. Iran supplied them with all of their money and weapons.
2) the remnants of Hamas are finished as well, for the same reasons.
3) and the Houthi are also in trouble now - you don’t think they built any of those missiles themselves, do you?
That part of the world may suddenly become an extremely peaceful place, thanks to Donald Trump.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2025 01:49 AM (EVFZ5)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 22, 2025 01:37 AM (XeU6L)
Well, we started the whole new roof, and siding thing. I had to build a gable over the front door, and yeah because *me* all of it got a wee bit more elaborate. 5-6 weeks of constant rain turned it into a nightmare. I gotta say, my brother's guys did an amazing job. I can't even describe what they did with the gable over the entrance. The downside, my asshole will be smoking longer than that pit in iran.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 22, 2025 01:50 AM (snZF9)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 01:50 AM (bss/y)
I'm not focused on the Jews or the Muslims or Hindus and the Sikhs or the Houthis and Tutsis or the North or South Koreans.
They have their own issues, and they can sort that out amongst themselves.
Our elected officials need to focus on what is best for America and American citizens. Not what is good or bad for Israel or Iran or Canada or Mexico.
And what's best for American citizens is to not fight in any wars. And how do I know that? We can look at the last 40+ years of what our fucking around all over the world has cost us in money, lives, and lost higher standard of living.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:45 AM (uCjyK)
I would say 35 years. I rememeber sadly the hopes of a "peace dividend' of reduced national debt and improved infrastructure. That sadly did not materialize, and from the "Balck Hawk Down" debacle in Somalia, to having to do the heavy lifting for the spoiled Eurotrash who can't police their own Balkan backyard, I have grown skeptical of any further interventions abroad.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 22, 2025 01:51 AM (ajDWy)
So whatever you do or don't want to be called - and as much as you do, in the main, make sense - you can be pretty fucking obtuse about a certain subject when you want to.
Posted by: ... at June 22, 2025 01:47 AM (E0p3T)
I vaguely remember what you are talking about. You seem to have a great memory. I don't remember the details other than the story here was "anti semitic witch hunt in Amsterdam" and I posted a news article saying that it was a fight between fans of different teams or something.
I have to ask though -- this was such a minor thing so long ago, do you keep notes on what people post about and their positions on the issue? Like do you remember what I've posted over the years on issues like the estate tax?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:51 AM (uCjyK)
Fug em all in the squeak hole with a George Wallace style "Barbed Wire Enema"
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 22, 2025 01:51 AM (gAN4h)
Possible. But there has to be actual movement by the Iranians (or at least someone over there.) My guess is they are keeping their heads down so they do not get stomped by an Israeli airstrike.
Another good reason to maybe pause and assess after tonight.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 01:52 AM (bss/y)
Posted by: Thart at June 22, 2025 01:46 AM (r2ymA)
It's not a bloody Sean Hannity talking point -- it's a fact. So you don't believe them, either, when Iran's national anthem is 'Death To America!'?
Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 01:53 AM (gKDq2)
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There is no possibility of this ever being true.
Posted by: Methos at June 22, 2025 01:53 AM (Dnobf)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:23 AM (uCjyK)
You voted for the guy who spent twenty years saying Iran can never be permitted to get the bomb and then publicly shit yourself when he kept his word.
I don't get it.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 01:25 AM (oSeBJ)
I'm leaning towards the conclusion that more than a few people were desperately hoping Israel would get nuked.
"But that would surely start a very large scale war, right?"
Well, those same people are so convinced that "the Jews™" secretly control us, so once they were all dead we obviously would no longer have any desire to retaliate and completely glass Iran.
So, no, it would just be handshakes all around and we would join the brave and honorable mullahs with a rousing chant of wishing death to upon ourselves and we would sail happily into the sunset together.
Posted by: Sjg at June 22, 2025 01:53 AM (aqZN1)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:51 AM (uCjyK)
People keep track of shit you would not believe. I believe skip mentioned writing down anyone's birthday that gets mentioned.
We're almost all 'autists' of one type or another.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 01:53 AM (bss/y)
He made those statements long before he was in a position to be called weak. And it is also a negotiating skill to recognize when further negotiation is futile. Iran was never going to abandon its nuclear aims.
Posted by: Ordinary American at June 22, 2025 01:54 AM (wQOIH)
Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 01:54 AM (VofaG)
Isn't that what the eye-ranians did, when we got hit on nine-eleven?
*sweets for everybody!*
EFF eye-ran!
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 01:54 AM (rdVOm)
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There is no possibility of this ever being true.
Posted by: Methos at June 22, 2025 01:53 AM (Dnobf)
Harry says it's true.
If America ever fights for anything, ever, it's de facto not in our interests.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 01:54 AM (oSeBJ)
I'm not focused on the Jews or the Muslims or Hindus and the Sikhs or the Houthis and Tutsis or the North or South Koreans.
They have their own issues, and they can sort that out amongst themselves.
Our elected officials need to focus on what is best for America and American citizens. Not what is good or bad for Israel or Iran or Canada or Mexico.
And what's best for American citizens is to not fight in any wars. And how do I know that? We can look at the last 40+ years of what our fucking around all over the world has cost us in money, lives, and lost higher standard of living.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:45 AM (uCjyK)
I would say 35 years. I rememeber sadly the hopes of a "peace dividend' of reduced national debt and improved infrastructure. That sadly did not materialize, and from the "Balck Hawk Down" debacle in Somalia, to having to do the heavy lifting for the spoiled Eurotrash who can't police their own Balkan backyard, I have grown skeptical of any further interventions abroad.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 22, 2025 01:51 AM (ajDWy)
AoS Code Pinkers arrive.
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2025 01:54 AM (MHlR3)
>>If Russia dropped 30,000 pound bombs on Cheyenne Mountain, do you think we would consider that a war, or would we say "as long as the red army is still in Europe, we're not at war. Dummie!"
What happened went Trump sent cruise missilles into Syria in his first term when some of you predicted it would lead to boots on the ground and yet another endless war in the Middle East?
Or are you going to ignore that as well?
PS, learn the international agreement of nuclear weapons development. You're a lawyer, right?
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 01:55 AM (viF8m)
Posted by: Ordinary American at June 22, 2025 01:54 AM (wQOIH)
One could point to... fuck how long HAVE we been doing the Iran-Nuke dance? 20 years? 25? Iraq washed out a lot of the background noise.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 01:55 AM (bss/y)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:51 AM (uCjyK)
I don't keep any notes. Just file important things away in my mind because that's how my brain works.
I do not write without backup and I also try to be as fair as possible.
I enjoy shooting the breeze with just about anyone, but also will only tolerate a certain amount of actual horseshit.
Posted by: ... at June 22, 2025 01:55 AM (E0p3T)
Harry, simple question: should Iran be allowed to get a nuclear weapon? Do you want to live in a world where those nutjobs have nuclear weapons?
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 22, 2025 01:56 AM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 01:48 AM (bss/y)
I appreciate that. I don't get in to it, because it doesn't matter, but no one who knew me in real life would ever say I'm antisemitic. I work in an industry in a city where many of my co-workers are Jewish. I have Jewish family members. Two of my three lifelong best friends are Jewish. My two longest relationships with women prior to my current partner were with Jewish girls. And they're just as split on this issue as the rest of the country.
It's just the "you're racist, shut up" argument that some conservatives feel free to use instead of trying to argue. Of course, the left uses every "you're racist / sexist / homophobic" argument.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:56 AM (uCjyK)
Fug em all in the squeak hole with a George Wallace style "Barbed Wire Enema"
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 22, 2025 01:51 AM (gAN4h)
Oh I forgot and Have a Nice Day!
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 22, 2025 01:57 AM (gAN4h)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 01:45 AM (bss/y)
There’s a meme on X of the Saudis handing out their memo deploring this warwhile the person holding it is giving a great big wink and a thumbs up sign. The Saudis hate the Iranians, they’re the Saudis greatest rival both politically and religiously.
The Saudis are laughing their asses off at the Iranian regime going down so hard.
And watch Qatar - they are in the middle of switching sides so fast it’ll make your head spin. How do I know that? Because Qatar *always* switches sides as soon as they know who the winner of any war will be. It’s who they are.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2025 01:57 AM (EVFZ5)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
Now see?
We can have Nice Things.
Posted by: Positively Miklos at June 22, 2025 01:57 AM (UYy+W)
Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 01:58 AM (VofaG)
I will say that's an idiotic statement made by someone less intelligent than Hannity.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 01:58 AM (viF8m)
I have to ask though -- this was such a minor thing so long ago, do you keep notes on what people post about and their positions on the issue? Like do you remember what I've posted over the years on issues like the estate tax?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:51 AM (uCjyK)
Harry, your brand of whiny isolationism died on December 7, 1941. I get it, for you, America is the root of all evil, and if we just unilaterally disarmed and turned into a whiny, toothless country that never so much as discusses the outside world, all would be better.
Sadly for you, the enemy still gets a vote, and the freedom you enjoy does NOt exist for the asking. King George III did not respond to the Declararion of independence by saying “Oh, OK”.
Maybe mix in some history lessons with your Mandarin classes,
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2025 01:58 AM (MHlR3)
Posted by: Ciampino - The midnight run at June 22, 2025 01:58 AM (sPQoU)
You don't have to do the 'some of my best friends...' crap. That does not help your case here.
Or anywhere important, I might add.
Also, I am not sure the 'you're racist' is a conservatove argument...
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 01:59 AM (bss/y)
"Happy to see everyone again!"
- Beth, who isn't coming
Beth should be coming. All the 'Ettes should be coming. Early and often.
Posted by: NC Ref at June 22, 2025 01:59 AM (xikgB)
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 22, 2025 01:51 AM (ajDWy)
AoS Code Pinkers arrive.
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2025 01:54 AM (MHlR3)
Oh FUCKING JUST STOP IT. The two interventions I cited were done in the Administration of Billy Jeff Clinton, and Code Pinko did not materialize for those, now did it?
Just like the mudslinging about alleged anti-Semitism without real proof.
Some of us are just skeptical of any further intervention, especially since the same "Republicans" who pushed for Iraq were later trying to sell us a "Comprehensive Immigration Reform" turd sandwich. Why risk one's life to save the world, only to lose the USA at home?
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 22, 2025 01:59 AM (ajDWy)
Harry, simple question: should Iran be allowed to get a nuclear weapon? Do you want to live in a world where those nutjobs have nuclear weapons?
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 22, 2025 01:56 AM (w6EFb)
Yes he does, if it means America is a weak, whiny country.
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2025 01:59 AM (MHlR3)
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 22, 2025 02:00 AM (J+OHH)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 22, 2025 01:56 AM (w6EFb)
Harry doesn't believe Iran is pursuing a nuclear weapon because they haven't dropped one.
He's said over and over that "Iran has been two weeks from a bomb for twenty years," so obviously the reports are falsified by the deep state to get us into a war.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 02:00 AM (oSeBJ)
X says Nuke Iran taken in 1979
Have a great night everyone
Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2025 02:00 AM (+qU29)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 22, 2025 01:56 AM (w6EFb)
I think the easiest way to resolve this is to make a case to the American people, have the Senate vote, and officially declare war on Iran.
Because neither one of us has any idea what the real situation in Iran is. We know we can't trust the intel agencies, since they lied about WMD's and nuclear weapons when it came to Iraq 20 years ago. I think a full finding of facts, with people digesting and debating the arguments before voting, would be warranted before we get in to any war.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 02:00 AM (uCjyK)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 01:58 AM (viF8m)
LOL. That might be too strong an insult, Jack. Damn.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 02:01 AM (bss/y)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 01:58 AM (viF8m)
Holy shit, that's just mean.
Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 02:01 AM (gKDq2)
Some of his best friends are Leftists. He always bragged about being their cuck when his group started talking politics . He would sit back and let them think he agreed.
Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 02:01 AM (VofaG)
It has been alleged that Obama signaled this clearly in a private dinner with Rashid Khalidi, a video of which is in the hands of the LA Times (and they have refused to release). Obama's actions toward Iran always seemed to confirm his motives in this regard.
Posted by: Ordinary American at June 22, 2025 02:02 AM (wQOIH)
Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 01:53 AM (gKDq2)
Yes, I would say Iran saying Death to America is more or less on the level of the usual Sean Hannity droning.
Posted by: Thart at June 22, 2025 02:02 AM (r2ymA)
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 22, 2025 02:00 AM (J+OHH)
Some spacer hitting a bong up on the gantry? lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 22, 2025 02:03 AM (snZF9)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 02:03 AM (bss/y)
Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 02:01 AM (VofaG)
Oh, that's what you were talking about the other day. You made it sound very nefarious.
I have said that living in NYC, you have to be a bit discrete about your politics if you're anywhere to the right of Andrew Cuomo.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 02:05 AM (uCjyK)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 02:00 AM (uCjyK)
That wouldn't help. You don't believe any of the facts because of who is relating them to you.
You don't belive Iran wants, it's pursuing, and is getting close to building a bomb.
No amount of discussion can move you from that position.
In this case, we DID vote on electing the candidate who promised Iran would never get a bomb.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 02:05 AM (oSeBJ)
Let me guess though, you're the kind of guy who if you spot someone you think might be a liberal, you immediately get in their face and scream Boomer Fox News talking points at them until they walk away?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 02:06 AM (uCjyK)
Posted by: Ordinary American at June 22, 2025 02:02 AM (wQOIH)
I think they see Israel as a locus of destabilization in the region. They consider the people in the abstract. Like Stalin pondering people dying of starvation from collectivization. Well, if it's useful.
Amazing how libs always love people... in the abstract.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 02:06 AM (bss/y)
Actually Mexico has done a lot more damage.
Posted by: Thart at June 22, 2025 01:46 AM (r2ymA)
Mexico doesn't chant "Death to America" on a daily basis in their legislative body.
Iran does.
Not "demonstrators". Not "militants". Not "activists".
Their fucking parliament. Since 1979.
The same way that Cato said "Carthage must be destroyed" every time he made a speech in the Roman Senate.
Guess what? Carthage was, in fact, destroyed.
If that's not a declaration of war, it'll do until a better one comes along.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 22, 2025 02:06 AM (qpyNK)
A full finding of facts? So, we have a bunch of hearings dragging on forever, and Iran gets a functional bomb in the meantime, and then Israel (or NYC) gets nuked. OK.
And you'll note you aren't hearing too much objection from any other countries much are you? Nobody wants Iran to get a nuke. Nobody. And we are the only one on the planet that has the capability to stop it without some massive, bloody war.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 22, 2025 02:07 AM (w6EFb)
Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 02:07 AM (VofaG)
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 02:05 AM (oSeBJ)
Wanted. Was pursuing. Was getting close.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 02:07 AM (bss/y)
It appears that the AC will be on 24/7 for the foreseeable future.
Predicted to be 104-105 here next week.
Humidity the usual 110-115%
Posted by: Or Miklos could ho jump in a lake, like they tell me at June 22, 2025 02:07 AM (UYy+W)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 22, 2025 02:08 AM (snZF9)
Posted by: Thart at June 22, 2025 02:02 AM (r2ymA)
That's nice.
I, on the other hand, would say that someone pointing a loaded gun at me and saying "I'm gonna kill you" is an actual threat.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 22, 2025 02:08 AM (qpyNK)
There's plenty of walnut & cherry wood here, too. Could drill/carve some nice pipes. All the pipes I saw, were glass or silicone. Yeesh.
No, I don't smoke it no more, but may need a 'undocumented' source of income one o' these days...
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 02:08 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 22, 2025 02:08 AM (J+OHH)
Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 02:01 AM (VofaG)
He usually does agree. He's said here, in this thread, it is NEVER in our interest to fight for anything, under any conditions.
Full surrender to the rest of the world is the left's starting position.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 02:08 AM (oSeBJ)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 02:08 AM (bss/y)
Just like the mudslinging about alleged anti-Semitism without real proof.
Some of us are just skeptical of any further intervention, especially since the same "Republicans" who pushed for Iraq were later trying to sell us a "Comprehensive Immigration Reform" turd sandwich. Why risk one's life to save the world, only to lose the USA at home?
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 22, 2025 01:59 AM (ajDWy)
No, and sorry, you right to bark orders at me has never existed.
You are advocating for a weak, whiny America along with your buddy Harry. You need to own it. Sadly for you, the enemy gets a vote. You may not like it, you may throw tantrums over that, but that’s the way it is. We have more than enough manpower to solve our problems at home and to deal with threats from abroad that can make things WORSE here.
So, Code Pinker, visit me on November 11, and kiss my ass. The freedoms you have do NOT exist for the asking. Perhaps you are too spoiled and coddled to see that, but it’s the sad truth.
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2025 02:08 AM (MHlR3)
Posted by: Case at June 22, 2025 02:09 AM (ilX37)
and i feel fine...
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
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*applause*
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 02:09 AM (rdVOm)
Cherry makes decent pipes, not sure about walnut.
At least tobacco pipes. Haven't touched that other stuff in decades.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 22, 2025 02:09 AM (qpyNK)
Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 02:07 AM (VofaG)
Well, at least you're consistent.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 02:09 AM (uCjyK)
and i feel fine...
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
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*applause*
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 02:09 AM (rdVOm)
Nahhhhh....
Signed US Uni Party who will give away the victory.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 02:10 AM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 02:11 AM (bss/y)
Power mad thugs who think that dying while killing infidels gets them an automatic ticket to heaven, plus 79 virgins.
The old Soviet Union was ruled by power mad thugs. Modern China is ruled by power mad thugs.
But those power mad thugs are not suicidal.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 22, 2025 02:11 AM (qpyNK)
Full surrender to the rest of the world is the left's starting position.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 02:08 AM (oSeBJ)
Yes, that's a great summation of my argument and my political views.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 02:11 AM (uCjyK)
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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*pats next seat over*
Welcome!
What's left to do, on a Caturday night, in Club ONT?
Let the war-hawks yap...
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 02:11 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Thart at June 22, 2025 02:02 AM (r2ymA)
Again, paintbrush stroke vs. big picture. 'Death To America!' is Iran's overarching theme of governance. They and their proxies have carried out multiple attacks against the US, with many killed and wounded, over the last 40 plus years. Those attacks and casualties don't matter, right? They happened in the past so they can be easily forgotten? Maybe by you. IMO, we're just helping to take out the trash. What the Iranians do after that, well, they would be on notice, if you will. Don't FA or you'll FO, too. Pretty simple diplomatic policy.
Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 02:11 AM (gKDq2)
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 02:08 AM (oSeBJ)
This is also a libertarian thing too.
Do I think we need to use military force all the time? No. But do we need to on occasion? Absolutely. If this action prevented a nuclear Iran, all to the good. Even better if we did nothing else and Iran’s current government crumbled, perhaps replaced with something better at the hands of the Iranian people.
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2025 02:12 AM (MHlR3)
Posted by: Case at June 22, 2025 02:09 AM (ilX37)
/looks at our own Democrat party... and those who threatened the Right saying they had F-15s and we didn't...
Uhhh....
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 02:12 AM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 02:10 AM (mP0Kj)
I am hoping(TM) that something comes out of this that is not imposed from the outside and is marginally better than maniacs who want a nuke above all other things.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 02:12 AM (bss/y)
It appears that the AC will be on 24/7 for the foreseeable future.
Predicted to be 104-105 here next week.
Humidity the usual 110-115%
Posted by: Or Miklos could ho jump in a lake, like they tell me at June 22, 2025 02:07 AM (UYy+W)
It was rainy and cold for weeks..WEEKS, while the roof and siding was getting done. I went close to 4 weeks without gutters. I had to spread out tarps to keep water away from the foundation and constantly had to keep adjusting them. Everything finally gets done, and it instantly switches to a billion degrees out because I had to to new storm doors and put up all the new lights. I swear if I could shoot the sun I would. Fuck summer.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 22, 2025 02:12 AM (snZF9)
I try to be patient but I have limits. I'm Trump like.
I will allow people to be purposefully ignorant and take their insults for just so long and then comes the bunker busters.
Iran has been at war with the US longer than some of you who just had your balls drop have been alive. Just because you are a dumb fuck who doesn't know shit about history doesn't mean the rest of us don't.
Iran is led by a murderous dealth cult that has been attacking the US, aka The Great Satan, for decades. They mean to end us. That's the reason for nukes. If you are too ignorant of what is going on then shut the fuck up and do a bit or research and give your "We young people know better" idiocy a rest. You don't know shit. You're young. Good for you. You also don't know shit. You sound like AOC and if that doesn't make you take a pause then you are hopeless.
None of us want war. I don't want to shoot anyone. But I am prepared because they might want to shoot me. Want exactly did you think Weasel means when he constantly tells you to buy ammo?
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 02:13 AM (viF8m)
Ask any Marine whether they've forgotten the barracks bombings in Beirut in '82.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 22, 2025 02:13 AM (qpyNK)
But those power mad thugs are not suicidal.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 22, 2025 02:11 AM (qpyNK)
Well, they are just oligarchs wanting power and money.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 02:13 AM (bss/y)
Iran or Mexico?
Posted by: Thart at June 22, 2025 02:13 AM (r2ymA)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 22, 2025 02:14 AM (snZF9)
That should say it all, really, if their treatment of the Vienna Convention of 1961 like toilet paper wasn’t enough.
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2025 02:14 AM (MHlR3)
Posted by: Berserker
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Amen!
Rainy & cool the last couple days. Maybe one more, and then back to *ROAST* until September probably.
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 02:14 AM (rdVOm)
Miklos,
49 here and it will be 59 for the high today.
I miss alot of things about living in the South but not the weather.
Posted by: fourseasons at June 22, 2025 02:14 AM (3ek7K)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 02:11 AM (uCjyK)
Our elected officials need to focus on what is best for America and American citizens. Not what is good or bad for Israel or Iran or Canada or Mexico.
And what's best for American citizens is to not fight in any wars.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:45 AM (uCjyK)
Yeah. Looks like I nailed it.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 02:14 AM (oSeBJ)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 02:12 AM (bss/y)
Romeos Prognostication...
The Left will declare victory, before the Iranian Gov Falls... they will be allowed to continue in power... and we will be right back her in a few years.
We need to change DC, before we can change Iran.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 02:15 AM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 02:15 AM (VofaG)
I think some of these fuckers are actually naïve enough to think Iran would not have used the nuke. THEY are against the use of nukes, so everyone else is by default.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 02:16 AM (bss/y)
Ask any Marine whether they've forgotten the barracks bombings in Beirut in '82.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 22, 2025 02:13 AM (qpyNK)
Uh... Oct 23, 198... THREE...
It's not just Marines who remember... I was in the Navy and part of MARG 2-83
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 02:17 AM (mP0Kj)
Iran or Mexico?
Posted by: Thart at June 22, 2025 02:13 AM (r2ymA
Different tools for different jobs.
Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 02:17 AM (VofaG)
Fox News
@FoxNews
·
1h
Iran fires missiles at Israel following the American attack against its nuclear facilities,
@TreyYingst
reports.
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 22, 2025 02:17 AM (gAN4h)
Posted by: Thart at June 22, 2025 02:13 AM (r2ymA)
It's not an either/or question.
We have many enemies. All of them need to be dealt with.
This may come as a surprise, but the United States government is very large and is actually capable of doing more than one thing at once.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 22, 2025 02:17 AM (qpyNK)
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 02:17 AM (rdVOm)
Iran or Mexico?
Posted by: Thart at June 22, 2025 02:13 AM (r2ymA)
Both in different ways for different reasons. And Mexico is even easier to deal with. (Apply DIME. In the case of Mexico the E - economy - is much easier to use, given the reliance of Mexico on our economy. We deny them access to it, they are done.)
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2025 02:18 AM (MHlR3)
Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at June 22, 2025 02:18 AM (F31MH)
And you will note Harry, that true to my word, I engaged you perfectly fairly on this very subject earlier and may have missed your answer:
---------------------------
611 Upon what basis do you believe Trump has decided to go against his core beliefs about carrying on these stupid wars? From his book 25 years ago:
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Posted by: ... at June 22, 2025 01:35 AM (E0p3T)
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Posted by: ... at June 22, 2025 02:18 AM (E0p3T)
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2025 02:18 AM (MHlR3)
Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 02:15 AM (VofaG)
Yup, they should have hit that section of the planet until the earth looked like a lifesaver candy.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 22, 2025 02:18 AM (snZF9)
@TreyYingst
reports.
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 22, 2025 02:17 AM (gAN4h)
Oh, look, some of the assholes are still around.
Do you think they saved the rockets for just this occasion?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 02:19 AM (bss/y)
Posted by: Ordinary American at June 22, 2025 02:19 AM (wQOIH)
One may hope that the radioactive stuff is now buried so deeply it'll never be a problem.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 22, 2025 02:19 AM (qpyNK)
Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 02:15 AM (VofaG)
Yup, they should have hit that section of the planet until the earth looked like a lifesaver candy.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 22, 2025 02:18 AM (snZF9)
And we were ready too... and told to stand down...
Then... our ships who were supposed to relieve us on station, invaded Grenada.
To put it mildly.... ship's company was not happy.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 02:20 AM (mP0Kj)
They've upped the forecast high to 100F here for Wed. A little high pressure ridge creating a little heat dome is in store.
My late cousin's colleagues at GSP NWS office explain things thus:
Large upper ridge will be dominating the eastern half of the country as we begin the short term, remaining firmly in place through the period. Strong subsidence underneath the ridge combined with fairly
stagnant surface high pressure will lead to building oppressive heat and humidity, though levels will remain just short of advisory (105F) levels at this time. NBM as usual having trouble with dewpoints and ensemble guidance in agreement with this assessment,
so as with previous forecast blended in NBM10 to indicate additional afternoon mixing.
At the onset of the increasing heat Monday
afternoon, NBM high temperatures seem to be okay, but moving into Tuesday a little less certain that NBM is handling this as well especially given soil moistures remain fairly high as of late. Could see a couple of vort lobes rotating around the anticyclone so cannot
rule out some low-end diurnal convection in the mountains.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 22, 2025 02:20 AM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Ordinary American at June 22, 2025 02:19 AM (wQOIH)
That's because Obama had already broken the ice-is.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 02:20 AM (bss/y)
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 22, 2025 02:13 AM (qpyNK)
Exactly. And I'm not a former Marine or military at all. But even I remember.
ABC News Nightline: America Held Hostage. Ted Koppel's Hairpiece got its breakthroughrole with that show. Every friggin' night. Just one more reminder of how feckless Jimmy Carter was. Yeah, people forget that shit. I don't.
Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 02:21 AM (gKDq2)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:45 AM (uCjyK)
Yeah. Looks like I nailed it.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 02:14 AM (oSeBJ)
How is that in any way controversial? Of course the best thing for American citizens is to not have to fight wars.
Is it sometimes absolutely necessary? A defensive war for example? Our reaction to the Pearl Harbor attacks in WWII? Obviously, yes.
But it would be better for American citizens to not have to fight in any wars, and we should make every effort to avoid wars. Because wars cost a lot in human suffering, money, and the horrific loss of life.
Again, think of all the kids who died in Iraq or Afghanistan. For what? Or the kids who came back whose lives were destroyed after multiple deployments and PTSD and whatnot.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 02:21 AM (uCjyK)
AS usual, the GSP guys are clear as mud.... I kid, I kid if any are reading here.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 22, 2025 02:22 AM (w6EFb)
Iran or Mexico?
Posted by: Thart at June 22, 2025 02:13 AM (r2ymA
Different tools for different jobs.
Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 02:17 AM (VofaG)
Another way of saying I won't take a side. You might be forced to take a side if you like it or not.
Posted by: Thart at June 22, 2025 02:22 AM (r2ymA)
I wonder if that is half of why 10/7 does not even faze the left.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 02:22 AM (bss/y)
And what's best for American citizens is to not fight in any wars.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 01:45 AM (uCjyK)
So, Harry, freedom really is free, and does exist just for the asking. Now, I’m not the hack and slash go to war for everything type - the military is the family business that both my father and I have engaged in, and neither of us were or are psychotic - but to take that line of thinking seriously you have to either be 1) stupid or 2) woefully naive.
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2025 02:22 AM (MHlR3)
Strictly speaking WWII is not what I call a 'defensive war'. Maybe only in the sense that the Romans meant it...
Most of the Roman foes did not believe that THEY were the attackers, no matter what the justification. Look at Trajan's Second major campaign in the East for an example.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 02:24 AM (bss/y)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 02:21 AM (uCjyK)
American have no problem fighting in a war... they have a problem being allowed to win the war, so they don't have to go back again.
I can't describe how betrayed I feel... at 66... as a Navy Vet, knowing that all the shit I did, was a case of us solving problems... winning the battles...
Then politicians instead of fixing the damn problems... would declare defeat, and put a bandaid on the real issues.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 02:24 AM (mP0Kj)
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611 Upon what basis do you believe Trump has decided to go against his core beliefs about carrying on these stupid wars? From his book 25 years ago:
Posted by: ... at June 22, 2025 02:18 AM (E0p3T)
I think Trumps instinct is not to go to war, but I also think these things tend to quickly escalate. We bomb Iran, they blow up some US Army outpost in Iraq, we have to respond by bombing Tehran, Russia sees a good opportunity to pay us back for Ukraine and starts supporting the Mullahs heavily with money and weapons, we get drawn more and more in and we end up with a Vietnam or Iraq situation, or a Syria situation where millions of Muslims flood Europe and/or the US (aided by our Deep States).
Is that an inevitable result? No.
But that is one of the many risks we are taking here, with no debate or consideration and a complete disregard to those risks.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 02:26 AM (uCjyK)
Bullies need to be punched in the face. Violence is the only thing they understand.
If they get back up afterward? They need to be punched again.
If they still insist on being a-holes? They need to (pardon the borrowed phrase) get their "shit pushed in"
*sits back down & shuts up*
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 02:27 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 02:27 AM (uCjyK)
“But it would be better for American citizens to not have to fight in any wars, and we should make every effort to avoid wars. Because wars cost a lot in human suffering, money, and the horrific loss of life.”
Sure, it would be way better if we didn’t have a military and didn’t need to worry about the Outside World. But this kind of thinking is normally beaten out of us when we reach adulthood. Or when you read enough history. Your thinking on this subject is just 1) stupid or 2) woefully naive to the point of it being extremely dangerous.
You can sit there and say that the best option is to not get involved in any wars all you want, but The Enemy Gets A Vote. What if the WTC towers were left alone, or if the U.S. embassy were left alone per international protocols? Then verything would be great. That isn’t the world we live in and you will have to accept it.
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2025 02:28 AM (MHlR3)
And he already has the first three Holes...
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 02:29 AM (mP0Kj)
Russia already has the ass full with Ukraine and nervously eyeing everyone else. China maybe would work better with your argument.
But even China has to be thinking... maybe we could invest in some non insane Iranians to sell us cheap oil later if we invest with them now.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 02:29 AM (bss/y)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 22, 2025 02
I was IN Iraq and Afghanistan. This is the wrong tree for you to bark up. I signed up after my dad was almost killed in the Pentagon.
You've now modified your unequivocally clear statement that it is never in our interests to fight to contain the limited hangout that defensive fights are sometimes necessary and okay.
All those "kids" who died in Iraq and Afghanistan were mostly killed by Iran. Nearly all of the IEDs were theirs in some form or fashion.
You need to explain why a bloodless strike against three specific targets was not worth it in order to remove Iran's nuclear capability, a country which has been actively killing Americans for my entire lifetime.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 02:29 AM (oSeBJ)
So your position is we should wait to be hit before we respond. Against a religious cult who thinks the Armageddon will bring the return of their messiah and lusts for nukes.
I shan't be voting for you.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 02:29 AM (viF8m)
Bullies need to be punched in the face. Violence is the only thing they understand.
If they get back up afterward? They need to be punched again.
If they still insist on being a-holes? They need to (pardon the borrowed phrase) get their "shit pushed in"
*sits back down & shuts up*
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 02:27 AM (rdVOm)
Totally. I'm an eraserist. When a country pulls the shit iran did over the years they need to be fucking erased from the planet for all time. The Carthage protocol.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 22, 2025 02:30 AM (snZF9)
Posted by: Thart at June 22, 2025 02:22 AM (r2ymA)
Seriously that’s what you got out of that analogy?
Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 02:30 AM (VofaG)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 22, 2025 02:30 AM (snZF9)
The Roman way. Make a desert. Call it a peace. Throw up a forum. Move people in. Repeat.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 02:31 AM (bss/y)
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 02:29 AM (oSeBJ)
'Bloodless' may be overselling it. I am betting there were some assholes down in the mountain one who are... inconvenienced right now.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 02:33 AM (bss/y)
Reasonable, and be aware I am generally against this country getting into any war no matter who the president is because even in the best case scenario the Democrats/Uniparty will come along eventually and sell us out. Or even do it right away.
The only "war" I want is one of destruction and strength. As I mentioned, Trump knows how to speak to the mullahs. Just like he knew how to speak to Kim Jong. He did it tonight. He didn't mention "God" for no reason at all or because of a bullet in Butler. He is letting Iran know who the Boss is.
I do not expect this to carry on. I believe it will be decisive and what's more it will set Iran back, which is what the world desperately needs. Let's see in five weeks what Democrats and media are talking about. It won't be Iran, and that's how you will know how it's going.
Posted by: ... at June 22, 2025 02:34 AM (E0p3T)
We finally struck at those who were killing Americans.
Afghanis? were not, until we invaded. Iraqis? were not... until Storm... Syria? don't get me started... Ukraine (where yes we have tennis shoes on the ground), not our fight.. IMO...
Iran, however, declared themselves our enemy decades ago, and has actively killed Americans... and THAT should be the standard. Who the F is killing us NOW...
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 02:34 AM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 02:33 AM (bss/y)
I mean for us. Bloodless for us.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 22, 2025 02:34 AM (oSeBJ)
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 02:35 AM (rdVOm)
This makes me despise our previous "deep state" leadership even more, with the folly that Iraq and Afghanistan became. Makes it harder when something actually needs to be done, like Iran here with the nukes.
Donald J. Fucking Trump has no intention of some boots on the ground regime change nation-building nonsense in Iran.
This is the perfect time to end this. Iran is weak, and they, at least their nuclear and terror ambitions can be ended here.
Let's see, Oct. 7 was their undoing. Hamas and Hezbollah have been neutered and then Syria went south, Iran (and Russia) had to bug out. So, Iran goes full bore on the nuclear enrichment.
This was the perfect time to do this, ended Iran's nuclear ambition.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 22, 2025 02:35 AM (w6EFb)
The US taxpayer has been paying gajillions for military hardware since forever. Today we got to do a trial run of our big time toys and they work!!!
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 22, 2025 02:35 AM (gAN4h)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 02:33 AM (bss/y)
I don't know if the loose bowel stains will come out of their man dresses.
Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 02:36 AM (gKDq2)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 22, 2025 02:30 AM (snZF9)
Yup, but if you are going to send your Men to War.... allow them to finish the damn job...
War to the hilt... or no war. IMO
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 02:36 AM (mP0Kj)
I’m sorry you think you fought for nothing. I think quite the opposite and glad we didn’t have to find out the consequences of not doing what we did.
And it’s not just a partisan opinion that our victories and making America more secure was thrown away by the Left. It’s a fact.
Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 02:37 AM (VofaG)
Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 02:36 AM (gKDq2)
Well I meant 'assholes' as a unpleasant person, but we can go with that too.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 02:38 AM (bss/y)
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 02:36 AM (mP0Kj)
Which is the problem. We will never be there again and it kind of sucks.
The powers won't allow it. Trump, bless him, is threading a very important needle here. Unlike Iran and their phony surprise some days ago, he showed them what a REAL surprise looks like.
The mullahs know he means what he says. He is pushing them to a retreat. May get uglier in the meantime, may not.
Posted by: ... at June 22, 2025 02:39 AM (E0p3T)
US bombs three Iranian nuclear sites, entering war
Local leaders and experts react to US striking three Iranian nuclear sites
Oregon lawmakers react to US strikes in Iran
LOL.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 02:40 AM (bss/y)
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 02:36 AM (mP0K
So we shouldn’t have bombed Iran?
Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 02:41 AM (VofaG)
They came up with a new euphemism for squatting, a.k.a. stealing a house.
Ready?
Last resort housing options.
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 22, 2025 02:42 AM (rP7Op)
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 02:36 AM (mP0K
So we shouldn’t have bombed Iran?
Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 02:41 AM (VofaG)
I'm pretty sure we put it in iran's ass up to the hilt. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 22, 2025 02:43 AM (snZF9)
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 02:36 AM (mP0K
So we shouldn’t have bombed Iran?
Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2025 02:41 AM (VofaG)
continue until regime change... finish that government, then let the Iranians figure out their own shit.
It not conducive to Western Civilization? Rinse... Repeat.
But stopping now? While the Ayatollah is still ruling? dumb.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 02:43 AM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 02:43 AM (rdVOm)
But I think the modern usage is like... a punitive raid on another country. Ride in, break some shit, ride home. 'Tensions rise', etc. Not full out war.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 02:44 AM (bss/y)
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 02:36 AM (mP0Kj)
The politician gives the general the desired result. The politician then leaves the general to figure that shit out.
I do respect Bush the Elder for staying out of Schwatzkoff's way. But then Bush stopped us once Iraqi troops left Kuwait (it was a UN operation) before we got to Baghdad. That left a festering sore. Saddam was no angel and eventually had to go. But regime change should not be part of the bargain. Go in, break things, kill whoever is necessary to kill, then leave. This is what we're doing so far.
Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 02:44 AM (gKDq2)
Ready?
Last resort housing options.
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 22, 2025 02:42 AM (rP7Op)
Wow. what was the latest one for illegal alien? Undeclared migrant or something?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 02:44 AM (bss/y)
If you still can't see what's going on then you aren't worth debating.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 02:45 AM (viF8m)
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 02:45 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 02:46 AM (bss/y)
JQ, are we square??
Bers, good to see you.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 22, 2025 02:46 AM (0nHVk)
If you still can't see what's going on then you aren't worth debating.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 02:45 AM (viF8m)
A valid point would be: why didn't they attack one of our military bases in the region?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2025 02:47 AM (bss/y)
Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 02:44 AM (gKDq2)
And by your own example, we had to go back and invade Iraq later.
IMO, either change that Gov... or stay out of it, because anything less just kicks the can down the road.... as we've seen time and time again.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 02:47 AM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 02:47 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 02:50 AM (n+rGF)
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 22, 2025 02:42 AM (rP7Op)
Wow. what was the latest one for illegal alien? Undeclared migrant or something?
Posted by: Aetius451AD
Undocumented citizen. I heard it used on CNN a couple weeks ago.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 22, 2025 02:50 AM (NXz8h)
I was doing some, uh, research on Persian women. They are quite striking. Saw something about some brave Iranian gal who stripped down to her skivvies and marched in front of the Morality Police HQ in Tehran. She was arrested. Don't know what her fate was.
So, we need #UncoverPersianWomen. Cover the mullahs in the dirt to uncover the babes.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 22, 2025 02:50 AM (w6EFb)
rule out some low-end diurnal convection in the mountains.
Posted by: publius, Rascally
Musta learnt them fancy pants vocabulations on some visit to Clempson
Posted by: Miklos learnt from tore up newspapers in the outhouse at June 22, 2025 02:52 AM (UYy+W)
I agree with you. That's why I said we have to kill whoever is necessary to kill. That's regime change as that regime is no longer around. We suck now at the nation-building part, so we should stop doing that.
Iran is an example of where I want a very Big Stick approach. And the Bunker Busters appears to be a very big stick, indeed.
Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 02:53 AM (gKDq2)
Well, I suppose they could call an illegal's homeland his "previously enjoyed" country.
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 22, 2025 02:54 AM (rP7Op)
And you can only level the same dishonest smears, rather than address the problem. I watched people get wounded and maimed abroad, and for what? Only to be told that had to swallow a metaphorical turd sandwich at home.
We have more than enough manpower to solve our problems at home and to deal with threats from abroad that can make things WORSE here.
Do we? Why are those goons rioting against ICE in city after city still getting away with it? I am all for Trump on this, but it is maddening that it took 30 years to get to where we need to be. Some of us were warning what would happen back in 1994 with illegal aliens, only to be smeared, not by the usual Demunist Commiecrats, but by the establishment of our own GOP.
So, Code Pinker,
And there you go again with the smears. The whole point of my examples was, and is, that the Code Pink Commiecrat cuntcremes never said anything about pointless foreign wars, if a Democrat was doing them. Don't be just the converse of that.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 22, 2025 02:54 AM (ajDWy)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 22, 2025 02:50 AM (w6EFb)
Met a smokin hawt Iranian Woman in the mid East in 1980... before things had gone batshit crazy in that particular country.
3 years later they would shoot them if they were not wearing a Burka.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 02:55 AM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 22, 2025 02:50 AM (NXz8h)
I guess "Maryland Dad" didn't poll well after all.
Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 02:56 AM (gKDq2)
Hash browns & omelets (or eggs any way ya like them) with sausage and/or bacons.
Pitchers of bloody marys available upon request...
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 02:56 AM (rdVOm)
Iran is an example of where I want a very Big Stick approach. And the Bunker Busters appears to be a very big stick, indeed.
Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 02:53 AM (gKDq2)
One thing I learned trying to Parent Adult children... you cannot fix their problems for them... you can point a way... or you can make it uncomfortable enough that they HAVE to fix their issues... but you can't fix them yerself.
It is the same in international relations... we should make it uncomfortable enough for the citizenry to WANT to change the Gov... then get the hell out of the way.
Then, it they become a problem AGAIN? rinse... repeat... but the US should not be trying to build Democracies... because we suck at it.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 02:59 AM (mP0Kj)
Hash browns & omelets (or eggs any way ya like them) with sausage and/or bacons.
Pitchers of bloody marys available upon request...
Posted by: JQ
Darleen is "visiting" her "cousin" at Frogmore this week...
Posted by: Miklos is a mite eatamitious at June 22, 2025 03:00 AM (UYy+W)
3 years later they would shoot them if they were not wearing a Burka.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 02:55 AM (mP0Kj)
The Iranian Communit Party, the Tudeh, worked with the mullahs to overthrow the shah. Once the shah left, the mullahs put the commies against a wall and shot them.
Priorities. The women came second, as always in pisslam.
Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 03:01 AM (gKDq2)
Bloody Mary OR Mimosa, with breakfast!
Good morning
Sunday morning
/ugh, Nanzi
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 03:01 AM (rdVOm)
One of the co-founders of Code Pink is Jodie Evans. She is married to Neville Singham, a billionaire who made his money by selling his company to the CCP and spends most of his time in Shanghai. Because he works for the CCP. That's how it works.
Singham helped fund the antifa/BLM riots and every other anti-American action.
There's a reason Code Pink doesn't care about Democrat wars. They fund them.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 03:03 AM (viF8m)
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So, you're saying the mullahs have *some* redeeming qualities?
/sarc
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 03:04 AM (rdVOm)
Good morning
Sunday morning
/ugh, Nanzi
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 03:01 AM (rdVOm)
A Bloody, but no celery stalk. Just a couple of shrimpers on the rim, the solid food part of today's breakfast of champeens.
Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 03:05 AM (gKDq2)
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 03:06 AM (rdVOm)
But, commies killing mullahs would be sort of a redeeming quality for them as well.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 22, 2025 03:06 AM (w6EFb)
I agree with you. That's why I said we have to kill whoever is necessary to kill. That's regime change as that regime is no longer around. We suck now at the nation-building part, so we should stop doing that.
Iran is an example of where I want a very Big Stick approach. And the Bunker Busters appears to be a very big stick, indeed.
Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 02:53 AM (gKDq2)
The "sucking at" nation-building was probably intentional. Just as Trump was able to wipe out ISIS very quickly, where Obama had failed, if you have somebody competent who is actually TRYING to do good then you can actually succeed. So can we nation-build if we put in a legit effort? I don't know. SHOULD we nation build? Maybe. It's a cost-benefit thing.
No doubt we know full well how to take down a regime. But do we know how to get a democratic republic in place instead? Maybe we'll see.
Posted by: MrExcitement at June 22, 2025 03:06 AM (hOOi9)
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So, you're saying the mullahs have *some* redeeming qualities?
/sarc
Posted by: JQ
I recall that the Iranian commies blew up the Iranian Mullah parliament building. And some mullahs.
Moar please
Posted by: Miklos is prepared to be amused at June 22, 2025 03:07 AM (UYy+W)
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So, you're saying the mullahs have *some* redeeming qualities?
/sarc
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 03:04 AM (rdVOm)
Nah... they then said. 'Sorry... these were not Russian Soviet Commies, so they dont' count'...
And due to Cold War, got away with it.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 03:07 AM (mP0Kj)
Pickled asparagus! Stuffed spanish olives.
Shrimp? OK. (Shhh... not very many on hand!)
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 03:08 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: RickZ
*checks*
*got smokes*
Posted by: Miklos is pretty much set at June 22, 2025 03:08 AM (UYy+W)
One of the co-founders of Code Pink is Jodie Evans. She is married to Neville Singham, a billionaire who made his money by selling his company to the CCP and spends most of his time in Shanghai. Because he works for the CCP. That's how it works.
Singham helped fund the antifa/BLM riots and every other anti-American action.
There's a reason Code Pink doesn't care about Democrat wars. They fund them.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 03:03 AM (viF8m)
Thank you, JackStraw. You make my point - Why should we "deplorables" fight for a country where all too many of the leadership and ruling elites still hate us?
Now if Trump and the rest of us in the Forces Of Good can get the upper hand and keep it, Great. I'm ready to fight for *that*.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 22, 2025 03:09 AM (ajDWy)
Posted by: publius
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Now I understand better, "arm both sides and root for casualties"
LOL
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 03:10 AM (rdVOm)
No one disputes the Iranian Government's behavior, actions and language over the past 40+ years.
There seem to be a lot of commenters here opposing, in some form, DJT's bombing of the Iranian nuclear sites.
Approach the question from the direction we've previously approached it: When do we disable or destroy the Iranian nuclear capability? What action by the Iranian Government is sufficient to cause us to act?
The current body count is low. The threat appears genuine. A functional nuke floated into any US port would generate, what, 100,000 deaths? Why should we wait for this?
Is there any indication that, if the Iranian Government gets functional nukes, they'll suddenly become reasonable, start thinking like us, that the reasoning we've used over the past 60+ years with the Soviets and China, and to some degree with Kim Fat One, will suddenly work with them?
It looks to me like we had to do it now, and have to at least finish destroying their capability. The Iranian people are sufficiently cultured, civilized and educated to rebuild their government and nation themselves.
Posted by: Arbalest at June 22, 2025 03:12 AM (FlRtG)
Nobody knows how to nation build. It's a ridiculous conceit of our elites that believe this crap.
The world is not full of unique people like those who founded the US. It's mostly full of dull, ignorant, tribal and brutish people who don't give a fuck about western democracy. They care about power.
Americans should travel more. The world is not calling out for our help to turn their country into a Jeffersonian democracy.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 03:13 AM (viF8m)
Just because.
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 03:13 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: MrExcitement at June 22, 2025 03:06 AM (hOOi9)
Americans have a very swewed view of how the rest of the world works. In many way we are spoiled rotten... we expect the rule of law, and Rights... and for others to SUPPROT those ideals.
In other countries we go in and try to impose US values... on their GOVERNMENT, without changing the people (like we did in Japan and Germany). We are no longer willing to change the CULTURE... and its the cultural differences IMO which lead to conflict with the US... we think they will act a certain way, and they don't.
Watched this more than once in the Mid East... where we controlled the country... but did not even try to change the culture... like Iraq enshrining Sharia Law into their Constitution WHILE WE HAD CONTROL...,
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 03:13 AM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: Michelle Fields at June 22, 2025 03:13 AM (UYy+W)
Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at June 22, 2025 03:14 AM (F31MH)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 03:13 AM (viF8m)
Funny how our Federal State system is based on the Premise that each State will be a mini experiment into what legally works... and what does not...
Yet, we try to impose our government on other cultures, whether it makes any sense, or not.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 03:15 AM (mP0Kj)
LOL
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 03:10 AM (rdVOm)
The Iran-Iraq War, 1980-88. I was rooting for both sides to lose.
Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 03:15 AM (gKDq2)
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 22, 2025 03:16 AM (4Uhmp)
LOL
Posted by: JQ
GLARE
Posted by: Michelle Fields at June 22, 2025 03:13 AM (UYy+W)
/Golf Clap...
Meme from the Past! Well played!
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 03:16 AM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: nurse ratched
Nope! Belly on up to the bar!
What would you like to drink?
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 03:18 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 03:20 AM (n+rGF)
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 22, 2025 03:22 AM (4Uhmp)
https://tinyurl.com/yeype36y
Posted by: Biden's Dog
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Day-um! Boy ain't missed any meals, has he?
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 03:22 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Devious lil' Miklos at June 22, 2025 03:22 AM (UYy+W)
Lemon and honey. Hot booze makes me sleepy time. Thank you, love.
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One 'Knock-Out Drop' comin' up!
You're welcome, dear. Hope you get good sleep tonight.
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 03:24 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Devious lil' Miklos at June 22, 2025 03:22 AM (UYy+W)
So you're a bloody thief, huh?
Posted by: RickZ at June 22, 2025 03:25 AM (gKDq2)
https://tinyurl.com/yeype36y
Posted by: Biden's Dog
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Maybe it's just a mirage
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 22, 2025 03:25 AM (XeU6L)
Lemon and honey. Hot booze makes me sleepy time. Thank you, love.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 22, 2025 03:22 AM (4Uhmp)
but... but... why do we want you to go to sleep and not have your company???
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 03:27 AM (mP0Kj)
Our foreign policy has been an abysmal failure for decades because it has been run by idiots who don't know dick about the world. The idea that we could remake the world in our image is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard.
I'm a big fan of Trump's foreign policy. Run your country but if you fuck with the USA we will wreck you. We're happy to be your friend and help you progress but if you harm one of our citizens we are going to end your plans.
Pretty simple plan and so crazy it just might work.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 03:28 AM (viF8m)
Posted by: Miklos understands the lunar calendar at June 22, 2025 03:28 AM (UYy+W)
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 03:29 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 22, 2025 03:29 AM (4Uhmp)
Posted by: Le Mikleuse at June 22, 2025 03:30 AM (UYy+W)
Pretty simple plan and so crazy it just might work.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 03:28 AM (viF8m)
Yup... America first kinds started with Perot, way back when.... which I still think was the first real target of George Bush's creation we now call the Deep State.
If you look at the tactics... it you look at what HE said vs what the media and 'intel' services said... the playbook becomes clear.
But after traveling the world for years... I know we can't fix them... hell... we can't even fix ourselves.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 03:30 AM (mP0Kj)
I understand your point of view to be something like this ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHhrZgojY1Q
Yes-ish or No-ish?
Posted by: Adriane the Monday Critic on Saturdayday . . . at June 22, 2025 03:30 AM (cfyxU)
ANY RETALIATION BY IRAN AGAINST THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA WILL BE MET WITH FORCE FAR GREATER THAN WHAT WAS WITNESSED TONIGHT. THANK YOU! DONALD J. TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
I wonder if they think he means it?
Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at June 22, 2025 03:31 AM (F31MH)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 22, 2025 03:25 AM (XeU6L)
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Perhaps it's a Mystèree.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 03:32 AM (n+rGF)
Um, no, kitty, I'm not gonna let you indoors with THAT!
Oh, ick. He's eating it...
Sorry guys, I need to take a short break. BBIAB
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 03:32 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 22, 2025 03:25 AM (XeU6L)
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Perhaps it's a Mystèree.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs
Da so?
Posted by: Le Mikleuse has been to the Mardi Gras -twice is about enough at June 22, 2025 03:32 AM (UYy+W)
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 22, 2025 03:29 AM (4Uhmp)
So... 3.5 hours in Flyover America... or like 8 hours in Blue Controlled America?
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2025 03:32 AM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 03:34 AM (rdVOm)
Apparently the youtube video going around of Fordow is
"This footage is from September 2024 when a Ukrainian kamikaze drone struck Russia’s missile and ammunition arsenal, the Toropets Facility, located in the Tver region."
per the Blog Father ...
Posted by: Adriane the Monday Critic on Saturdayday . . . at June 22, 2025 03:36 AM (cfyxU)
Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at June 22, 2025 03:37 AM (F31MH)
Posted by: Miklos understands the lunar calendar
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"But, but... it's *not* the fourteenth anymore!"
---Kid I used to work with, what had GF who's cycle always started on the 14th-- (he was clueless that other women's were different)
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 03:38 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Le Mikleuse has been to the Mardi Gras -twice is about enough at June 22, 2025 03:32 AM (UYy+W)
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I tip my hat to you.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 03:41 AM (n+rGF)
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2025 10:38 PM (rdVOm)
Why, thank you! Just got back from the concert at the Spokane Tribe casino. Nitty Gritty Dirt band, and Little Feat. Bill Payne still plays keyboard for the latter, and was a huge part of the original band's sound. Was a great show, and I had a lovely visit with Nurse R and Jordan 61 and her hubby. That casino is a very classy facility, and seems to be very well-managed.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 22, 2025 03:44 AM (OJL75)
Posted by: Joe Redfield at June 21, 2025 10:43 PM (KOtXO)
Not a household name, but familiar to blues fans, Eddie Clearwater. Left=handed guitar player. I shook hands with him, and my hand simply vanished into his huge mitt. A super-nice gentleman, too.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 22, 2025 03:47 AM (OJL75)
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 03:48 AM (rdVOm)
Eye-ran sez we dint hit nuthin.
Who do YOU believe?
LMFAO.....
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 03:53 AM (rdVOm)
Different households, different stuff.
https://tinyurl.com/bdefdv44
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 03:56 AM (viF8m)
*puts out big pans of fresh hash browns, crispy bacon, scrambled (real!) eggs*
*red seedless grapes, bananas, and sliced tomatoes for fruit choices*
Breakfast smorgie is OPEN!
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 03:58 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Adriane the Monday Critic on Saturdayday . . . at June 22, 2025 04:00 AM (cfyxU)
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 04:02 AM (rdVOm)
But not orange and tomato juice !!!
Posted by: Adriane the Monday Critic on Saturdayday . . . at June 22, 2025 04:06 AM (cfyxU)
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 04:07 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 04:08 AM (n+rGF)
Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at June 22, 2025 04:08 AM (F31MH)
/fetches draino
Posted by: Biden's Dog
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Didn't know you'd put a plate out...
*fills BD's plate*
(assume you'd not want bacon or sausage? There's corned beef hash instead, if you like)
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 04:12 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 04:14 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2025 01:18 AM (viF8m)
and there you have Moo-moo.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 22, 2025 04:18 AM (OJL75)
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 04:12 AM (rdVOm)
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One of our pups has a dog. Last night we gave them leftover bones and meat bits. The sent us a video of a very happy dog chewing away and tail wagging.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 04:21 AM (n+rGF)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 22, 2025 04:18 AM (OJL75)
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So Trump should've cow-towed to the Iranians?
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 04:22 AM (n+rGF)
Posted by: Biden's Dog
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Awww... cute!
Seriously, if there's anything in tonight's smorgie that you'd like-- you're welcome to have it.
Pardon me, please, if I'm not familiar with what is kosher.
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 04:23 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 04:23 AM (rdVOm)
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Pass the cucumber and carrot sticks.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 04:24 AM (n+rGF)
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 04:25 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 04:28 AM (rdVOm)
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You know what? If it's via USB, I'll take sausages and 2 sunny side ups, please.
Don't tell anyone!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 04:29 AM (ppGh0)
Posted by: m at June 22, 2025 04:30 AM (CQE5S)
I saw that the late Mabe Galor had decamped for Bluesky (rhymes with Rooski) -- so not a surprise.
I forgot how he actually did it, but that doofus never did spell "y'all" right.
I met him once at an impromptu NanoMoMe when he was in Philadelphia on some business or another.
He may already have commenced his hissy campaign to piss off all and sundry before flouncing out of AoSHQ -- my recollections are hazy about that non-event.
About six of us showed up to consume adult beverages and shoot the bull. As I recall, all the other 'rons in attendance were lurkers, not workers (for some values of "work").
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! at June 22, 2025 04:30 AM (xG4kz)
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Ok. But only if you won't get into trouble...
*stuffs breakfast thru USB*
*adds cucumber & carrot sticks, just in case*
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 04:31 AM (rdVOm)
And there you go again with the smears. The whole point of my examples was, and is, that the Code Pink Commiecrat cuntcremes never said anything about pointless foreign wars, if a Democrat was doing them. Don't be just the converse of that.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 22, 2025 02:54 AM (ajDWy)
I can’t smear you. You are doing that all on your own, by insisting freedom is free and need never be fought for.
Go study Mandarin. If you get your way you will need it.
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2025 04:42 AM (MHlR3)
Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2025 04:42 AM (rdVOm)
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