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aceofspadeshq at gee mail.com CBD: cbd at cutjibnewsletter.com Buck: buck.throckmorton at protonmail.com joe mannix: mannix2024 at proton.me MisHum: petmorons at gee mail.com J.J. Sefton: sefton at cutjibnewsletter.com | Minor Appreciations of CivilizationWell, it's been a while since I posted, with some life complications along the way. I had open heart surgery a while ago. I still can't drive and some of our household equipment and parts of automotive equipment have decided to die. Then on Thursday, hubby fell among cut-throats in an operating room. Things are a little better now but don't expect great thoughts today. Thanks to our wonderful COBS and to all of you in The Horde. I've missed you! We are blessed by family and friends, too. Anyway, there's a lot going on in California and the world right now, but sometimes the larger culture seems less important than at other times. There's only so much you can pay attention to at one time these days. I'm kind of happy that there are people who pay attention to the "larger" culture. Long-term trends in culture affect the daily (it seems) changes which dominate the news these days.![]() I have noticed some things about people that I might not otherwise notice, during our health challenges. Like people who work in the hospital system. Some of them are mediocre, but there are many who are very good at their jobs, even if their jobs are rather limited. They may do mundane things that keep a hospital system going, like patient transport, for example. They seem to prepare appropriately for their work days. I noticed that smart phones were not too evident in their work lives. They aren't making a big splash in the world, but they are making a difference in lives by being competent in the jobs they have chosen. They meet real people. Several I met treated their charges appropriately at all times. “If we ever allow morality or law to become just a question of whose ox is gored, then we will have taken a fatal step toward national suicide. We can survive lapses into hypocrisy, but we cannot survive making hypocrisy a ruling principle.” — Thomas Sowell Hope you have something nice planned for this weekend. This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread. Check out the preceding thread, too Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)1
Good morning all
Posted by: Darth Doodah at June 14, 2025 11:07 AM (dVTxy) 2
So happy to see you back, {{{KT}}}! It sounds like you and everyone around you needs prayers for fortitude and grace.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 14, 2025 11:08 AM (w6EFb) 3
KT! Hello, dear girl! It's good to see you back! Welcome home.
Posted by: Dr_No at June 14, 2025 11:11 AM (ayRl+) 4
Hope you're feeling better, KT!
Posted by: Dr. T at June 14, 2025 11:14 AM (jGGMD) 5
Thank you K.T. and I hope everything improves.
Posted by: Stateless.. 27% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 14, 2025 11:14 AM (jvJvP) 6
Glad to have you back, feeling better. Hope hubby is on the mend as well. Diogenes - excellent post below. I remember the same feeling(s) marching aft Desert Storm as well. Posted by: BifBewalski - at June 14, 2025 11:16 AM (MsrgL) 7
Lies! Lies! All lies!
Now THIS is 4-D Chess: That Feud Between Trump and Netanyahu? They Faked It As Part of an Intelligence Op https://shorturl.at/n44Iv
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not 8
It's been kind of a wild ride. Time for reflection. Things are slowly getting better. Odd that unrelated things seem to go wrong at the same time, but interesting!
I've been watching The Horde! Posted by: KT at June 14, 2025 11:20 AM (xekrU) 9
You're back KT! This is wonderful to see!
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 14, 2025 11:21 AM (uWKK8) 10
The post by Diogenes is worth attention. Pick the subjects to which you pay attention.
Posted by: KT at June 14, 2025 11:21 AM (xekrU) 11
So glad to have you back, KT. We missed you! I hope both you and your husband recover fully and quickly.
My husband had bypass surgery at a specialty heart hospital in 2019 and we were both impressed with the friendliness, professionalism, and competence of all of the staff, top to bottom. I hope it's still as true in 2025. The food not so much. No flavor and way, way, too many carbohydrates. He was so glad to get back home and, even though he didn't have a lot of appetite at first, he was glad to eat things that tasted good again. Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at June 14, 2025 11:22 AM (FEVMW) 12
What directions do you see education pushing everyday civilization, beyond politics?"
I see the lack of any effective education degrading all of the institutions we have come to rely on. Posted by: Tom Servo at June 14, 2025 11:23 AM (uWKK8) 13
Good morning!
>>Like people who work in the hospital system. Some of them are mediocre, but there are many who are very good at their jobs, even if their jobs are rather limited. One thing we noticed w/recent weeks-long hospitalization of my dad: most of the nurses were good at their jobs (always have a few lemons), but they didn't do much without a request. Something happened during Covid - a few talked about the helplessness and burnout, and seems a lot have (unconsciously?) pulled back. Had to order own meals, request meds, sitting up/walking/moves to a chair, etc.. It was weird how passive the care was. Posted by: Lizzy at June 14, 2025 11:24 AM (72zuV) 14
7 Lies! Lies! All lies!
Now THIS is 4-D Chess: That Feud Between Trump and Netanyahu? They Faked It As Part of an Intelligence Op https://shorturl.at/n44Iv Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not at June 14, 2025 11:19 AM (L/fGl) LOL I kept trying to tell that to people online who were setting their hair on fire at the time. It was the most obvious Good Cop - Bad Cop routine ever played, and they did it on a world stage in front of everyone. And the Iranians still fell for it!!! Posted by: Tom Servo at June 14, 2025 11:25 AM (uWKK8) 15
>>It's been kind of a wild ride. Time for reflection. Things are slowly getting better. Odd that unrelated things seem to go wrong at the same time, but interesting!
Glad you're on the mend!! Posted by: Lizzy at June 14, 2025 11:25 AM (72zuV) 16
What directions do you see education pushing everyday civilization, beyond politics? _________ I'm more optimistic than most. I see more people taking matters into Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 14, 2025 11:26 AM (QnmlO) 17
I've been watching The Horde!
Posted by: KT at June 14, 2025 11:20 AM (xekrU) ------------------ Uh oh. Does this mean you've made notations in our permanent records? Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 14, 2025 11:27 AM (2UnvF) 18
Prayers for you KT. Glad to see you back.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 14, 2025 11:27 AM (lIgBp) 19
Nice to see you back KT!
Posted by: Diogenes at June 14, 2025 11:27 AM (W/lyH) 20
My own experience of being a visitor during my son's hospitalization, I saw both the good and the bad.
Yes, there are dedicated staff who work tirelessly to keep patients and their loved ones as healthy and informed as possible. Unfortunately though, when mediocrity manifests, it can be fatal. I chose not to go down the rabbit hole of trying to figure out why my son died. He did, and that's all there is to it. I will be forever grateful for the kind and professional staff we encountered. The others though... like I said, I choose not to put thought to it. Posted by: BurtTC at June 14, 2025 11:28 AM (vF3jY) 21
To the Horde:
(and I don't mean to step on KT's thread) I picked a hell of a morning to sleep in. Mrs D had me up watching one of my favorite programs, "Foyle's War." Thanks for the contributions and comments on the previous thread. Posted by: Diogenes at June 14, 2025 11:28 AM (W/lyH) 22
I'm more optimistic than most. I see more people taking matters into their own hands, turning away from the chaos and rootless drifting of current society, returning to a strong moral basis and advancing with that beneath their feet. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 14, 2025 11:28 AM (QnmlO) 23
Glad to have you back K.T., prayers up.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 14, 2025 11:29 AM (akw+7) 24
Reagan was able to make a deal with Russia because, it turns out, the Russians are not suicidal.
The Persians? You cannot make a deal with a suicidal cult. Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 14, 2025 11:29 AM (ZmEVT) Posted by: Fritzty at June 14, 2025 11:29 AM (T5dpv) 26
Re: the MN shootings - have only seen this info on X, not on any of the cable news coverage:
https://tinyurl.com/bwjvbbbh Hortman recently crossed party lines as the sole Democrat to vote to remove MinnesotaCare from adult illegal immigrants. If it was a political killing - was it for her betraying her lefty state's politics? Posted by: Lizzy at June 14, 2025 11:30 AM (72zuV) 27
Uh oh. Does this mean you've made notations in our permanent records? Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 14, 2025 11:27 AM (2UnvF) _______ Lowell... Lowell... (*sharp intake of breath*) Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 14, 2025 11:30 AM (QnmlO) 28
One thing we noticed w/recent weeks-long hospitalization of my dad: most of the nurses were good at their jobs (always have a few lemons), but they didn't do much without a request. Something happened during Covid - a few talked about the helplessness and burnout, and seems a lot have (unconsciously?) pulled back. Had to order own meals, request meds, sitting up/walking/moves to a chair, etc.. It was weird how passive the care was.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 14, 2025 11:24 AM (72zuV) My parents, especially my late mother, always got amazing care in our part of Canada. Aside from the years I was stressed out because she was unjabbed. And the constant pushing for end of life stuff by the doctors which ended a while ago. But aside from that.....great care. Posted by: Stateless.. 27% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 14, 2025 11:31 AM (jvJvP) 29
K.T., welcome back. Glad to see you doing better.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 14, 2025 11:31 AM (6dYPy) 30
Two Minnesota legislators, along with their spouses, were shot in a targeted attack
https://shorturl.at/tE28t - Two dead, two gravely wounded. Because their party affiliation is not mentioned, I'm going with more leftist terror.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not 31
KT! You have returned at the turn of the tide.
Posted by: Eromero at June 14, 2025 11:32 AM (LHPAg) 32
I'm more optimistic than most. I see more people taking matters into their own hands, turning away from the chaos and rootless drifting of current society, returning to a strong moral basis and advancing with that beneath their feet.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 14, 2025 11:28 AM (QnmlO) I see myself as living in a duality. My day to day, both the work I do and the people I otherwise encounter, I can see the value of living a life of simple gratitude and kindness. The larger world though, encroaches. And maybe I can't do anything about it, but I see the evil being perpetrated, and find it hard not to be pessimistic about where we're headed. When it all collapses, those good people I try to surround myself with, will die along with the bad. Posted by: BurtTC at June 14, 2025 11:33 AM (vF3jY) 33
Dressing as LE for a hit is a signature move of sicarios. This is gonna be interesting to see how this is all connected. Is this the sparks Leftists want for their “revolution”?
Posted by: Vengeance at June 14, 2025 11:33 AM (GH9Yd) 34
Two dead, two gravely wounded. Because their party affiliation is not mentioned, I'm going with more leftist terror.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not at June 14, 2025 11:32 AM (L/fGl) GatewayPundit says they were Dems. Posted by: Stateless.. 27% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 14, 2025 11:33 AM (jvJvP) 35
Democrats who voted against illegal healthcare.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 14, 2025 11:33 AM (KhjS7) 36
Oh, so sorry to hear about the loss of your son, BurtTC!
With my dad's recent hospitalization, we had a family member there almost every waking hour. The passivity of the care kinda freaked us out. I have a lot of experience with hospital care with hubby and son, and have seem a wide variety of quality. However, something was broken in 2020 - maybe with covid and then the big DEI push. Something's changed ![]() Posted by: Lizzy at June 14, 2025 11:33 AM (72zuV) 37
Posted by: BurtTC at June 14, 2025 11:33 AM (vF3jY)
I am sorry about your son. I couldn't imagine that.... Posted by: Stateless.. 27% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 14, 2025 11:34 AM (jvJvP) 38
Two dead, two gravely wounded. Because their party affiliation is not mentioned, I'm going with more leftist terror.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not at June 14, 2025 11:32 AM (L/fGl) Both Democrats. People are speculating they crossed the aisle recently on something related to illegals, but as with any such news, it's best not to fix one's mind on a narrative this early. Posted by: BurtTC at June 14, 2025 11:35 AM (vF3jY) 39
Nice to have you back, KT.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 14, 2025 11:35 AM (viF8m) 40
Good to see you back, KT. Even though the people filling in did a great job and were much appreciated, you were missed. Continued prayers for healing and for your husband as well. There have been a number of folks in the congregations which I have served who have had have open heart surgery, and they are big procedures .
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 14, 2025 11:35 AM (2GCMq) 41
Good heavens, K.T., you and hubby have been through the wringer. Glad to have you here again!
Have to give appreciation to the nurses and caretakers at my mom's hospice. They are kind and efficient and very friendly. Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 14, 2025 11:35 AM (kpS4V) 42
"What directions do you see education pushing everyday civilization, beyond politics"
No. There is nothing beyond politics when the near term trajectory of our education system is "complete societal and cultural destruction" 30 years from now a dozen or more cultures with hundreds of years of history will be basically gone. A lot of you who are 29 might not be around to see but it IS coming. Posted by: heya at June 14, 2025 11:36 AM (12Z7Y) 43
Thank you for kind words, this happened a few months ago, so it's not fresh.
Except to me, I guess. But still, I think the larger point is, as Lizzy is suggesting, there may be something worth looking at, as to how healthcare is administered, and the questions do seem to be related to the Covid era. Posted by: BurtTC at June 14, 2025 11:37 AM (vF3jY) 44
36 Oh, so sorry to hear about the loss of your son, BurtTC!
With my dad's recent hospitalization, we had a family member there almost every waking hour. The passivity of the care kinda freaked us out. I have a lot of experience with hospital care with hubby and son, and have seem a wide variety of quality. However, something was broken in 2020 - maybe with covid and then the big DEI push. Something's changed Posted by: Lizzy at June 14, 2025 11:33 AM (72zuV) The health care industry, especially hospitals, are all about nursing on the government teat, which means COMPLIANCE. Which is still DEI. Posted by: Eromero at June 14, 2025 11:37 AM (LHPAg) 45
Both Democrats. People are speculating they crossed the aisle recently on something related to illegals, but as with any such news, it's best not to fix one's mind on a narrative this early.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 14, 2025 11:35 AM (vF3jY) Well I'm going to. These were political assassinations. Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 14, 2025 11:38 AM (g8Ew8) 46
Great to have you back, K.T. You have been missed.
Posted by: GrenadierX at June 14, 2025 11:39 AM (M3pDV) 47
Well I'm going to. These were political assassinations.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 14, 2025 11:38 AM (g8Ew ![]() There are facts, of course, but the meaning behind them may be unclear, and further of course, some will use the early period to set a narrative, even if it doesn't fit the facts. Posted by: BurtTC at June 14, 2025 11:40 AM (vF3jY) 48
Somewhat related:
@naomieppsbest Blew the whistle in @WSJopinion on ideological rigidity in therapy training. A week later, I am fired from my internship with the regret of my boss. This field is in crisis. The public needs to know. It's bananas: Your final paper will be a comprehensive sexual autobiography and exploration; minimum of 8 – 10 pages. Please note that you are not required to disclose anything that causes extreme discomfort, however I urge you share as deeply as you feel comfortable. The following are guidelines to help you choose what to be explored in depth. . . https://tinyurl.com/46nt8s35 Posted by: Lizzy at June 14, 2025 11:41 AM (72zuV) 49
Posted by: Lizzy at June 14, 2025 11:33 AM (72zuV)
Whenever my mother was in the hospital, I tried to stay as long as possible and would try to meet the night nurse and would call a couple of times through the night. Posted by: Stateless.. 27% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 14, 2025 11:41 AM (jvJvP) 50
Political assasinations at such a low level are rare.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 14, 2025 11:42 AM (KhjS7) 51
Obama Judge Halts Trump’s Election Integrity Order
- Because if there's one thing they don't want it's election integrity.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not 52
Not gonna lie, I am disappointed that my twee little town isn't hosting any protests today. I wanted to flip the bird!
But alas, no more giant inflatable capitalist pig, no papier-mâché heads, no pre-printed signs sent by the Party, no geriatric lefties reliving their glory days. I did see two young women with clipboards outside a tent with a sign I misread as LA RAZA, but it was just Tweeville Area Recreational Association 😆. Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 14, 2025 11:42 AM (kpS4V) 53
Wasn't the assassin in "Three Days of the Condor" dressed as a mailman?
Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 14, 2025 11:43 AM (ZmEVT) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 14, 2025 11:43 AM (6dYPy) 55
And I am trying to be grateful to God for small things. This may sound silly, but one thing I was happy about today was in coming back from the store in an area that passes through a nature preserve . I yelled out "There's a turtle crossing the road!" and spouse managed not to hit it, and a kind man on the other side of the road stopped and moved it completely off to the side. I was happy he did that. I love turtles (Well, not big old snapping turtles the size of pizza pie plates) and this one looked like it might have been a painted turtle. Must be mating season or they're laying eggs.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 14, 2025 11:44 AM (2GCMq) 56
>>Whenever my mother was in the hospital, I tried to stay as long as possible and would try to meet the night nurse and would call a couple of times through the night.
Yup! Use their names, make sure they know yours and see your loved one as a person - assertive but not a PITA patient advocate. Posted by: Lizzy at June 14, 2025 11:44 AM (72zuV) 57
52 Not gonna lie, I am disappointed that my twee little town isn't hosting any protests today. I wanted to flip the bird!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 14, 2025 11:42 AM (kpS4V) And pick up some of those hot, easy leftist protest babes we always hear about.....in theory... Posted by: Stateless.. 27% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 14, 2025 11:45 AM (jvJvP) 58
Wasn't the assassin in "Three Days of the Condor" dressed as a mailman?
Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 14, 2025 11:43 AM (ZmEVT) And then there was Magnum Force. Posted by: BurtTC at June 14, 2025 11:45 AM (vF3jY) 59
Tampon tim jumped right out and said it was "politically motivated" on account of closely divided legislature. So that means he knows it was one of his jihadis who did it, but is blaming Us. Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at June 14, 2025 11:45 AM (DxRBB) 60
Not my bag, Stateless!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 14, 2025 11:46 AM (kpS4V) 61
Jon Stewart Slams ABC News Over Firing Terry Moran: “They’re a F***Ing Joke”
- Well, he's right about one thing. They are a F***Ing Joke.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not 62
KT! So good to see you here. I'm sorry to hear of all the health problems for you and Mr. KT but I'm glad they were all addressed. Praying that you will both recover quickly and completely.
Posted by: bluebell at June 14, 2025 11:47 AM (79pEw) 63
60 Not my bag, Stateless!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 14, 2025 11:46 AM (kpS4V) Sorry. Just saw the rest of the name.. Another restless night... Posted by: Stateless.. 27% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 14, 2025 11:47 AM (jvJvP) 64
Willowed:
I drove 8 miles to shoot my wife sounds like a country song. Like so: *strums guitar* I drove 8 miles to shoot my wife Cuz she'd been messin' around I never drove 8 miles for nuthin' Never one day of my life I'll drive 1 mile for a glass of beer I'll drive 2 miles for a 6 pack here For a brand new pick-up, maybe four Or some red hot pussy, but not one mile more So you gotta know i was really mad And wanted to shoot my woman bad I drove 8 miles to shoot my darlin' Cuz she'd been messin' around Posted by: naturalfake at June 14, 2025 11:48 AM (iJfKG) 65
Until there wasn't enough family to do it someone, aunt, cousin, brother, whomever, would always, especially overnight be with the hospitalized kinfolk. Otherwise was not a consideration.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 14, 2025 11:48 AM (6dYPy) 66
And now a word from appropriately named Jon Cryer . . .
Hollywood Star Jon Cryer Says “Kristi Noem Must Resign” After Sen. Padilla Handcuffed at DHS Press Conference
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not 67
Tampon tim jumped right out and said it was "politically motivated" on account of closely divided legislature. So that means he knows it was one of his jihadis who did it, but is blaming Us.
Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at June 14, 2025 11:45 AM (DxRBB) There are a few things we can count on as being true. First anything coming out of his mouth is likely to be a lie, and second, if one were inclined to try to assassinate Democrats in Minniesomalia, for some political purpose... which I'm not advocating... you'd have to kill more than two. Posted by: BurtTC at June 14, 2025 11:49 AM (vF3jY) 68
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Tampon tim jumped right out and said it was "politically motivated" on account of closely divided legislature. So that means he knows it was one of his jihadis who did it, but is blaming Us. Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at June 14, 2025 11:45 AM (DxRBB) We all know how this goes. 1. The left is already passing this off as right wing violence speculating on air. 2. Evidence shows it was a lefty. 3. Everything is memory holed without an apology or even any self-reflection. Posted by: Stateless.. 27% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 14, 2025 11:50 AM (jvJvP) 69
I think I will walk up the hill to check out my local no kings protest.
Starts at 11 pst. It’s about an hour walk. Going to be sunny and 70 today. Gorgeous down here on the beach. I still don’t understand how the party of CAMELOT is now against a monarchy. Trump won every swing state, the popular vote, the EC, the house and the senate. Democrats didn’t even allow a primary. So confusing. Posted by: nurse ratched at June 14, 2025 11:50 AM (mT+6a) 70
K.T.
Great to have you back at AoSHQ. Know you are in all of our prayers. Take care of yourself - its going to take time to get your strength back. Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 14, 2025 11:51 AM (7v6oI) 71
And now a word from appropriately named Jon Cryer . . .
Hollywood Star Jon Cryer Says “Kristi Noem Must Resign” After Sen. Padilla Handcuffed at DHS Press Conference Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not at June 14, 2025 11:49 AM (L/fGl) That's it, I'm not watching any more of HIS movies either. Him or George Tacky. Or John Coo Sack. Posted by: BurtTC at June 14, 2025 11:51 AM (vF3jY) 72
Tulsi Gabbard released a video on her personal social media accounts lamenting the US nuclear bombing of the Japanese city of Hiroshima and warning that the world was closer to "nuclear annihilation" than ever before. https://t.ly/uZYWL Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 14, 2025 11:52 AM (63Dwl) 73
I think I will walk up the hill to check out my local no kings protest.
Starts at 11 pst.... Posted by: nurse ratched at June 14, 2025 11:50 AM (mT+6a) You can't expect them to get out of bed early. Posted by: BurtTC at June 14, 2025 11:53 AM (vF3jY) 74
love turtles (Well, not big old snapping turtles the size of pizza pie plates) and this one looked like it might have been a painted turtle. Must be mating season or they're laying eggs.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke I always stop, pick up turtles, and get them off the road. Be aware though, large sliders and painted turtles often let go of their gut contents from the rear out of fright or defense. Keep the rear exit away from you. Posted by: Turtle Fan at June 14, 2025 11:53 AM (G5+As) 75
Conspiracy!
Deep Thoughts With Joy Behar: What a Coincidence Trump and Army Share Birthday - Sumbitch planned it that way!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not 76
I guaranfuckingtee you that there is a record of this murderer leaving death threats to these people. We will find out he was 'known" to local law enforcement. Posted by: Soothsayer at June 14, 2025 11:53 AM (DxRBB) 77
0 Political assasinations at such a low level are rare.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 14, 2025 11:42 AM (KhjS7) Like abortions? Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 14, 2025 11:54 AM (g8Ew8) 78
Hollywood Star Jon Cryer Says “Kristi Noem Must Resign” After Sen. Padilla Handcuffed at DHS Press Conference
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not at June 14, 2025 11:49 AM (L/fGl) If a Republican senator had rushed a member of a Demoncrat administration would people be in shriek about the intervention by security? Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 14, 2025 11:55 AM (WCeiL) 79
Posted by: Turtle Fan at June 14, 2025 11:53 AM (G5+As)
Thanks and good for you! Spouse didn't mention any defecation on the other guy by Mr. Turtle but it's good to know. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 14, 2025 11:56 AM (2GCMq) 80
Does anyone know.if Burger King still gives out crowns? I want to wear one as I drive past the local protest.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 14, 2025 11:56 AM (W/lyH) 81
btw, were these Democrats joos, by any chance, or recently express support of Israel? Maybe that's why pedo gay walz is rushing out the deflection/gaslighting. Posted by: Soothsayer at June 14, 2025 11:56 AM (DxRBB) 82
We had a turtle lay eggs in our yard last week. My wife went out and covered it with a mesh screen to keep the raccoons from digging them up. Don't recall what kind of turtle. Probably a snapping one as they're pretty common among the ponds and creeks here.
Eggs are supposed to hatch in mid-August, according to the all knowing turtle AI. Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 14, 2025 11:57 AM (Q4IgG) 83
warning that the world was closer to "nuclear annihilation" than ever before.
----- we've been 'closer than ever before' for decades Posted by: Don Black at June 14, 2025 11:57 AM (AOsQT) 84
Leftists I know on Facebook are already blaming Trump for the Minnesota attacks. "People who don't know how the constitution works" and " this happens in chaos" are being tossed out there. They will blame Trump even if it turns out to be a leftist upset with the pols voting.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 14, 2025 11:58 AM (akw+7) 85
This is fun. https://x.com/miguelifornia/status/1933653716177203328 A nice pop culture zinger at the a-holes running California. Posted by: naturalfake at June 14, 2025 11:58 AM (iJfKG) 86
btw, ALL the tiktok goblins and twitter goblins are now "experts" in posse comitatus. Never before in history has a Marine detained a civilian, they're all claiming. Really, go to any military base in the country and run past the guard at the gate. They will tackle you and "detain" you. Posted by: Soothsayer at June 14, 2025 12:00 PM (DxRBB) Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 14, 2025 12:00 PM (2GCMq) 88
K.T. I am not recalling the nic (I blame advanced age, plus I have several plates in my head) but Hello! and stay well.
Yours, Don Black Posted by: Don Black at June 14, 2025 12:00 PM (AOsQT) 89
I once had to tell a young lady who was attempting to draw blood from me to please stop stabbing me and go get someone who could find a vein. She couldn't draw blood if you gave her a blank piece of paper and a red pen. Next lady did it in one attempt.
Posted by: jsg at June 14, 2025 12:00 PM (iGK7y) 90
Very happy to see you again KT
Posted by: Skip at June 14, 2025 12:01 PM (+qU29) 91
Hollywood Star Jon Cryer Says “Kristi Noem Must Resign” After Sen. Padilla Handcuffed at DHS Press Conference
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not at June 14, 2025 11:49 AM (L/fGl) If a Republican senator had rushed a member of a Demoncrat administration would people be in shriek about the intervention by security? Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 14, 2025 11:55 AM (WCeiL) Pretty sure they'd be arguing the need to shoot on sight. Posted by: Robert at June 14, 2025 12:01 PM (1Yy3c) 92
Wasn't the assassin in "Three Days of the Condor" dressed as a mailman?
Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 14, 2025 11:43 AM (ZmEVT) And then there was Magnum Force. Posted by: BurtTC at June 14, 2025 11:45 AM (vF3jY) Well, the group that went and shot Calvo Sotelo were impersonating a Guardia Civil arrest team. But no one cares about the Spanish Civil war again Posted by: Kindltot at June 14, 2025 12:01 PM (D7oie) 93
Glad you're doing better, KT!
Posted by: Robert at June 14, 2025 12:02 PM (1Yy3c) 94
also willowed:
I drove 8 miles to sho0ot my wife sounds like a country song. [ . . . ] Posted by: naturalfake at June 14, 2025 11:45 AM (iJfKG) It has been done, in a way - Bluegrass Steeldrivers, If It Hadn't Been For Love youtu.be/YSzlV6VNqI4? Posted by: Kindltot at June 14, 2025 12:02 PM (D7oie) 95
And I am grateful that the church up the road which dates from the middle 1800's is playing instrumental patriotic music from its steeple today. The last one was "America."
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 14, 2025 12:02 PM (2GCMq) 96
>btw, ALL the tiktok goblins and twitter goblins are now "experts" in posse comitatus.
--- I've noticed that these DU types like to find a cool-sounding word and just glom on to it- beat it to death 'Oligarchy' is a good example Posted by: Don Black at June 14, 2025 12:02 PM (AOsQT) 97
Demtards 5 minutes ago: 86 47!
Demtards now: OMG GOP IS KILLING DEMS! Posted by: Ghoulposts at June 14, 2025 12:03 PM (qUkBO) 98
Well, the group that went and shot Calvo Sotelo were impersonating a Guardia Civil arrest team. But no one cares about the Spanish Civil war again
Posted by: Kindltot at June 14, 2025 12:01 PM (D7oie) No one expects the Spanish Civil War! Posted by: Monty Python is now old and senile at June 14, 2025 12:03 PM (iJfKG) 99
What directions do you see education pushing everyday civilization, beyond politics? Any adventures with stranger interactions which have affected your life recently?
******** In healthcare: 1. Growing disconnect between patient and the actual decision-maker (doctor). Many more go-betweens with subsequent gaps in information/communication. 2. Knowledge level and skills of lower level nursing personnel (medical assistants, nurse's aides, LPNs technicians) are dwindling. 3. Data collected with poor technique (e.g. blood pressure, weight, etc.) entered into the medical record and treated as accurate. I.e. lots of people labeled as hypertensive who aren't, and such like. Posted by: muldoon at June 14, 2025 12:03 PM (/iMjX) 100
Does anyone know.if Burger King still gives out crowns? I want to wear one as I drive past the local protest.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 14, 2025 11:56 AM (W/lyH) ------------- I stopped at a Burger King on the way to the PNW MoMe and they had a stack of them. Posted by: Captain Obvious. Laird o' the Sea at June 14, 2025 12:03 PM (6YdsJ) 101
@Rightanglenews
· 2h BREAKING - It’s been revealed the Minnesota democratic lawmakers shot last night, State Rep. Melissa Hortman and State Sen. John Hoffman, both recently voted against their party, with Hortman supporting repeal of free healthcare for illegals and Hoffman joining Republicans in the Senate to pass it. Posted by: Don Black at June 14, 2025 12:04 PM (AOsQT) 102
we've been 'closer than ever before' for decades
Posted by: Don Black at June 14, 2025 11:57 AM (AOsQT) Grew up with "the world is doomed and you are screwed" Which is far better than the current generation who is growing up with "we are importing people to screw you" Posted by: Kindltot at June 14, 2025 12:04 PM (D7oie) 103
91 Hollywood Star Jon Cryer Says “Kristi Noem Must Resign” After Sen. Padilla Handcuffed at DHS Press Conference
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not at June 14, 2025 11:49 AM (L/fGl Life does imitate art. Alan was an insufferable pussy too. Posted by: Stateless.. 27% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 14, 2025 12:04 PM (jvJvP) 104
And now a word from appropriately named Jon Cryer . . .
Hollywood Star Jon Cryer Says “Kristi Noem Must Resign” After Sen. Padilla Handcuffed at DHS Press Conference Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not at June 14, 2025 11:49 AM (L/fGl) Has he finished production on his training video, "Crying on Command", by Jon Cryer? Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 14, 2025 12:05 PM (S/Y4j) 105
Having blood drawn is one experience where you hope that the phlebotomist's efforts actually ARE in vein.
😂 Posted by: muldoon at June 14, 2025 12:08 PM (/iMjX) 106
Incidentally, for those of who don't know who "jon cryer" is, he was the "normal" co-star on Two & Half Men. Posted by: Soothsayer at June 14, 2025 12:09 PM (DxRBB) 107
Having blood drawn is one experience where you hope that the phlebotomist's efforts actually ARE in vein.
😂 Posted by: muldoon at June 14, 2025 12:08 PM (/iMjX) --------- He's here all week, folks! Try the crab cakes! Posted by: Captain Obvious. Laird o' the Sea at June 14, 2025 12:09 PM (6YdsJ) 108
Having blood drawn is one experience where you hope that the phlebotomist's efforts actually ARE in vein.
😂 Posted by: muldoon at June 14, 2025 12:08 PM (/iMjX) I find RNs do a good line at putting in a needle but the EMTs seem to treat it like Captain Ahab going for the white whale. Posted by: Kindltot at June 14, 2025 12:09 PM (D7oie) 109
Perhaps Muldoon can conjure up a Democrat parody song based on the lyrics of Rawhide. Posted by: Soothsayer at June 14, 2025 12:10 PM (DxRBB) 110
Glad to have you back, KT. Continued prayers for your recovery. Hubbies too.
Posted by: olddog in mo at June 14, 2025 12:10 PM (BwZyW) 111
Two Minnesota legislators, along with their spouses, were shot in a targeted attack
https://shorturl.at/tE28t - Two dead, two gravely wounded. Because their party affiliation is not mentioned, I'm going with more leftist terror. They're Dems who voted against more benefits for illegals and pissed off Trantifa. Posted by: Ian S. at June 14, 2025 12:11 PM (QZThv) 112
Police officers confronted the killer coming out of one of the home. The killer fired on them and retreated back into the home. Nothing on whether they escaped or are still holed up.
Also, there was a hit list. https://tinyurl.com/5n7tz58p Posted by: jsg at June 14, 2025 12:12 PM (iGK7y) 113
I find RNs do a good line at putting in a needle but the EMTs seem to treat it like Captain Ahab going for the white whale.
---- From Hell's heart, I stab at thee! 🩸 Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 14, 2025 12:12 PM (kpS4V) 114
> It’s been revealed the Minnesota democratic lawmakers shot last night, State Rep. Melissa Hortman and State Sen. John Hoffman, both recently voted against their party, with Hortman supporting repeal of free healthcare for illegals and Hoffman joining Republicans in the Senate to pass it.
---------- I'm curious how contorted the left is going to be trying to parse this for their benefit. I'm sure they'll do it. Something, something compassion for illegals, right wingers, Trump's fault, etc. Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 14, 2025 12:12 PM (Q4IgG) 115
They're Dems who voted against more benefits for illegals and pissed off Trantifa.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 14, 2025 12:11 PM (QZThv) Posted by: Kindltot at June 14, 2025 12:13 PM (D7oie) 116
Welcome back, K.T.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 14, 2025 12:13 PM (+blYj) 117
You've got to keep up with the times.
Olympics Committee Adds Torch-Throwing To 2028 Competition
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not 118
Recently had clinic medical assistant take my blood pressure with a small-sized cuff, placed over the outside of my long sleeve shirt, not aligned with the brachial artery and got an unusually high number. I asked the RN accompanying the doc to retake it, with a large-sized cuff, on my bare arm, with the cuff in line with the artery and there was a 20 mmHg difference.
Posted by: muldoon at June 14, 2025 12:15 PM (/iMjX) 119
.... OT ...
VJ Day Renamed "End of War in the Pacific Day" by Bill Clinton for the 50th Anniversary Parade in Hawaii. A lot of parading for that. I didin't go to the parade that was in town (Clinton had review stands built for that). I think it was more elike a typical big city 'hometown' parade with HS bands, floats, veteran groups, etc. I had to do the separate military parade. I think he had litterally every single member of the military on Oahu march past his review stand including Coast Guard and NOAA. Literally an all fucking tropical day in the sun production for those in the parade. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 14, 2025 12:15 PM (/lPRQ) 120
Perhaps Muldoon can conjure up a Democrat parody song based on the lyrics of Rawhide.
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 14, 2025 12:10 PM (DxRBB) Muldoon does requests? How about birthday parties and bar mitzvahs? Posted by: Diogenes at June 14, 2025 12:16 PM (W/lyH) 121
K-Pop is all right to me. That cave art is a little dull though, and not very accessable except to the most elite.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 14, 2025 12:17 PM (/lPRQ) 122
The graciousness of a welcoming reconciliation.
Trump Asks McDonalds To Prepare A Special Fattened Calf Meal For Elon's Return
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not 123
I once had a blood draw where the tech was using the 'poke and hope' technique without success. Her jaw dropped when I reached up with my off hand, grabbed the syringe and directed it right into the vein.
Posted by: muldoon at June 14, 2025 12:18 PM (/iMjX) 124
Any good insurrection streams I should know about?
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 14, 2025 12:18 PM (KhjS7) 125
118 The local VA clinic's pharmacy was closed, and they sent me to Walmart pharmacy with a voucher for a 10 day fill. While waiting I decided to use the BP machine, which damn near took my arm off. Told the pharmacy aide and she said that has happened in the past and immediately put an out of order sign on it.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 14, 2025 12:20 PM (gm9Sb) 126
> Any good insurrection streams I should know about?
--------- CNN? I think they're a national sponsor of the budding insurrection. Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 14, 2025 12:21 PM (Q4IgG) 127
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Tampon tim jumped right out and said it was "politically motivated" on account of closely divided legislature. So that means he knows it was one of his jihadis who did it, but is blaming Us. Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at June 14, 2025 11:45 AM (DxRBB) 72 hour rule.... Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at June 14, 2025 12:21 PM (QGaXH) 128
MN shootings he had a manifesto, of course all the crazies do and had a long list of dems and repubs he was also targeting. 48 hour rule, however I suspect he was pissed off about the repeal of benefits for illegals.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at June 14, 2025 12:21 PM (2NHgQ) 129
KT! You have returned at the turn of the tide.
Posted by: Eromero at June 14, 2025 11:32 AM KT the White. Posted by: toby928 at June 14, 2025 12:21 PM (jc0TO) 130
So, political revenge shooting for Party betrayal has moved up on the likelihood list.
Posted by: muldoon at June 14, 2025 12:22 PM (/iMjX) 131
I once had a blood draw where the tech was using the 'poke and hope' technique without success. Her jaw dropped when I reached up with my off hand, grabbed the syringe and directed it right into the vein.
Posted by: muldoon at June 14, 2025 12:18 PM (/iMjX) I had a blood draw about 6 months ago. Afterwards, I kept feeling a sharp pain inside my arm, around the site. This went on for a couple months, and now the OUTSIDE of my elbow has some pain. Pain level is low, maybe a 2-3, but I suspect it was related to the blood draw. Am I crazy? Posted by: BurtTC at June 14, 2025 12:22 PM (+cfsD) 132
128 I betcha his queerness the governor Walz had his hopes up that the shooter used an AR so he could give a "weapons of war" speech.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 14, 2025 12:23 PM (gm9Sb) 133
Any good insurrection streams I should know about?
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 14, 2025 12:18 PM (KhjS7) When I was a kid we had rural property with a small stream on it. When it rained it turned into a large stream. We used to bathe in it. Posted by: BurtTC at June 14, 2025 12:24 PM (+cfsD) 134
If you know you have a blood draw coming up, make sure you are well-hydrated before you go to the clinic. I'm told this makes the veins easier to find and tap.
Posted by: Don Black at June 14, 2025 12:24 PM (AOsQT) 135
Muldoon does requests?
How about birthday parties and bar mitzvahs? ********* Most requested song from my friends and family is the sounds of silence. Posted by: muldoon at June 14, 2025 12:24 PM (/iMjX) 136
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 14, 2025 12:15 PM (/lPRQ)
He did some quick glad-handing and pressing of flesh (as it were) on Wheeler AAB, along with Waihehe. I did show up just out of curiosity, but it was over in a few minutes (as it were). Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 14, 2025 12:24 PM (kpS4V) 137
Recently had clinic medical assistant take my blood pressure with a small-sized cuff, placed over the outside of my long sleeve shirt, not aligned with the brachial artery and got an unusually high number. I asked the RN accompanying the doc to retake it, with a large-sized cuff, on my bare arm, with the cuff in line with the artery and there was a 20 mmHg difference.
Posted by: muldoon I do not like the MIC (medical industry complex) in general. My blood pressure runs 20 pts high being in their presence. Had a PA I did like (her demeanor and looks) talk me down to almost normal BP after the more typical staff was giving me shit about high BP that day. She pointed out a lot of people have elevated BP when visiting the Dr, everybody knows it, and nobody wants to admit the bulk of the problem is that most staff are rude condescending A-holes... She also had me come in with my cheap CVS BP thing to compare to the clinics precision old school BP meters. Almost dead on. When she left that clinic, so did I. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 14, 2025 12:24 PM (/lPRQ) 138
Any good insurrection streams I should know about? Posted by: Boss Moss Go down by the old mill stream. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 14, 2025 12:24 PM (63Dwl) 139
>>> 91 Hollywood Star Jon Cryer Says “Kristi Noem Must Resign” After Sen. Padilla Handcuffed at DHS Press Conference
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not at June 14, 2025 11:49 AM (L/fGl) If a Republican senator had rushed a member of a Demoncrat administration would people be in shriek about the intervention by security? Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 14, 2025 11:55 AM (WCeiL) Pretty sure they'd be arguing the need to shoot on sight. Posted by: Robert at June 14, 2025 12:01 PM (1Yy3c) You have guns!!! Posted by: Miss Lindsey at June 14, 2025 12:25 PM (ULPxl) 140
It’s been revealed the Minnesota democratic lawmakers shot last night, State Rep. Melissa Hortman and State Sen. John Hoffman, both recently voted against their party, with Hortman supporting repeal of free healthcare for illegals and Hoffman joining Republicans in the Senate to pass it.
---------- If that's accurate my internet conjecture has completely changed. I was leaning toward someone on the 'Right' having done it because it apparently was competently planned. I also did not rule out a Reichstag scenario. My fear for a while is that eventually some on the Right' would respond to the Left's actions with Star Chambers. Posted by: polynikes at June 14, 2025 12:26 PM (VofaG) 141
If you know you have a blood draw coming up, make sure you are well-hydrated before you go to the clinic. I'm told this makes the veins easier to find and tap.
Posted by: Don Black at June 14, 2025 12:24 PM (AOsQT) ----------- Last time I had a colonoscopy, they tried to get a needle into the back of my hand after my having had all the stuff they give you to empty you and dry you out. It was...not pleasant. Posted by: Captain Obvious. Laird o' the Sea at June 14, 2025 12:26 PM (6YdsJ) 142
I don't like The New Rules. I don't care if it's Team Red or Team Blue who are playing by them. I just want all the people playing by them to go to PMITA Prison [tm] and stay there.
Posted by: gKWVE at June 14, 2025 12:26 PM (KAw7u) 143
Am I crazy?
Posted by: BurtTC ********* Yes. Do you want a second opinion? You're also homely. (actually I suppose the needle may have tweaked the biceps tendon and left some lingering pain. Who knows.) Posted by: muldoon at June 14, 2025 12:27 PM (/iMjX) 144
Incidentally, for those of who don't know who "jon cryer" is, he was the "normal" co-star on Two & Half Men.
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 14, 2025 12:09 PM (DxRBB) Yet another TV show I never wasted time on. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 14, 2025 12:28 PM (+blYj) 145
Any good insurrection streams I should know about?
Posted by: Boss Moss I go down to the river to pray? Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 14, 2025 12:30 PM (S/Y4j) 146
Huh.
@nicksortor · 9m 🚨 #BREAKING: The man who kiIIed Minnesota Rep. Melissa Hortman this morning had “NO KINGS” fliers in his car MORE DEMOCRAT TERR0RISM! ALL “No Kings” protests should be cancelled NOW! Posted by: JackStraw at June 14, 2025 12:30 PM (viF8m) 147
Prayers to all the Morons needing extra blessings, healing, and comfort.
Posted by: LizLem at June 14, 2025 12:31 PM (gWBY1) 148
9m
🚨 #BREAKING: The man who kiIIed Minnesota Rep. Melissa Hortman this morning had “NO KINGS” fliers in his car MORE DEMOCRAT TERR0RISM! ALL “No Kings” protests should be cancelled NOW! Posted by: JackStraw at June 14, 2025 12:30 PM (viF8m) 48 hour rule... Posted by: Mississippi at June 14, 2025 12:31 PM (VE6XX) 149
🚨 #BREAKING: The man who kiIIed Minnesota Rep. Melissa Hortman this morning had “NO KINGS” fliers in his car
----------- So, they actually have him? Posted by: Captain Obvious. Laird o' the Sea at June 14, 2025 12:31 PM (6YdsJ) 150
(actually I suppose the needle may have tweaked the biceps tendon and left some lingering pain. Who knows.)
Posted by: muldoon at June 14, 2025 12:27 PM (/iMjX) That's at least a more logical explanation than my usual: That they're trying to inject the Covids into me. Or maybe I'm just getting old. Posted by: BurtTC at June 14, 2025 12:31 PM (+cfsD) 151
There are now many colors for Crown Royal bags
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 14, 2025 12:31 PM (KhjS7) 152
Incidentally, for those of who don't know who "jon cryer" is, he was the "normal" co-star on Two & Half Men.
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 14, 2025 12:09 PM (DxRBB) The Alan Harper character was in no way normal… He was a neurotic eunuch Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 14, 2025 12:31 PM (P/Wjn) 153
The man who kiIIed Minnesota Rep. Melissa Hortman this morning had “NO KINGS” fliers in his car
This is, of course, how you get kings. Posted by: the man on the white horse at June 14, 2025 12:31 PM (KAw7u) Posted by: JackStraw at June 14, 2025 12:32 PM (viF8m) 155
Incidentally, for those of who don't know who "jon cryer" is, he was the "normal" co-star on Two & Half Men.
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 14, 2025 12:09 PM (DxRBB) Yet another TV show I never wasted time on. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 14, 2025 12:28 PM (+blYj) Same. I just remember him as the gay friend in all those Molly Ringworm movies. Posted by: BurtTC at June 14, 2025 12:32 PM (+cfsD) 156
Last time I had a colonoscopy, they tried to get a needle into the back of my hand after my having had all the stuff they give you to empty you and dry you out. It was...not pleasant.
Posted by: Captain Obvious. Laird o' the Sea at June 14, 2025 12:26 PM (6YdsJ) Back of the hand is never pleasant. I have zero problems or discomfort with getting an IV or giving blood but I beg not to get it on the back of the hand if not necessary. They tell me that back of the hand is preferable for surgeries as it's more secure. I don't know if that's accurate. Posted by: polynikes at June 14, 2025 12:32 PM (VofaG) 157
Most requested song from my friends and family is the sounds of silence.
Posted by: muldoon at June 14, 2025 12:24 PM (/iMjX) Heh. In church once the pastor was asking for more men to volunteer for the choir. "Not so fast Diogenes! You're a great usher." Sigh... Posted by: Diogenes at June 14, 2025 12:33 PM (W/lyH) 158
Just want to note that my friend J (see prayer thread) had her surgery. It went well, the doc had to do less work than he had originally surmised. All the hospital staff were very pleasant and professional. Thanks for all your prayers.
Posted by: Captain Obvious. Laird o' the Sea at June 14, 2025 12:33 PM (6YdsJ) 159
The island has some no kings geezers at the start of the main road to the beach.
Posted by: Accomack at June 14, 2025 12:34 PM (6cOjz) 160
Posted by: JackStraw at June 14, 2025 12:30 PM (viF8m)
Blue on Blue violence. So you know what that means, right? Yep. It's MAGA's fault. Posted by: Robert at June 14, 2025 12:34 PM (1Yy3c) 161
Landshark.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 14, 2025 12:35 PM (KhjS7) 162
Most requested song from my friends and family is the sounds of silence.
Posted by: muldoon at June 14, 2025 12:24 PM (/iMjX) Heh. In church once the pastor was asking for more men to volunteer for the choir. "Not so fast Diogenes! You're a great usher." Sigh... Posted by: Diogenes at June 14, 2025 12:33 PM (W/lyH) When I decided to become a musician, I started with performing John Cage's "4'33." So far that's the only song I've mastered. Posted by: BurtTC at June 14, 2025 12:35 PM (+cfsD) Posted by: muldoon at June 14, 2025 12:36 PM (/iMjX) 164
Back of the hand is never pleasant. I have zero problems or discomfort with getting an IV or giving blood but I beg not to get it on the back of the hand if not necessary. They tell me that back of the hand is preferable for surgeries as it's more secure. I don't know if that's accurate.
Posted by: polynikes at June 14, 2025 12:32 PM (VofaG) -------- Yeah. I've donated lots of blood so I'm not needle-shy, but that was one miserable experience. Normally, the veins on the back of my hand are pretty prominent, but after 24 hours of dehydrating mixtures, they were pretty flat that day. Posted by: Captain Obvious. Laird o' the Sea at June 14, 2025 12:36 PM (6YdsJ) 165
I had brain surgery (a craniotomy) nearly 30 years ago. During prep for the procedure the nurse tried to start an IV… multiple (painful) jabs with no success. Brain surgery is stressful so I was on edge; I finally told her you have one more chance but I’ll punch you in the nose if you miss again (half joking… sorta). She got the anesthesiologist and he was a magician… put that thing in with no pain in like 5 seconds. Always have an anesthesiologist start your IV
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 14, 2025 12:36 PM (ZtAny) 166
Your Thomas Sowell quote above is so prescient with the MN shooting news this morning.
I warned rabid liberals on social media, after the vigilante shooter cowardly shot that exec in the back of the head on the street, then turned him into a tiger beat hero, that this is dangerous. Then how the left dismissed the attack on Noem and are Padilla. But hypocrites they are, politicians and news scrunts will scream when it is one of their own: a politician who should be shielded from the consequences of their choices and from promoting violence on the streets. They are from the appropriate caste, after all! From CNN: “This is a stunning act of violence. I’m thankful for all the law enforcement who are responding in real time,” U.S. Senator Klobuchar said in a post on X. “My prayers are with the Hortman and Hoffman families. Both legislators are close friends and devoted to their families and public service.” Posted by: LizLem at June 14, 2025 12:36 PM (gWBY1) 167
The island has some no kings geezers at the start of the main road to the beach.
I passed a small no kings protest this morning. Almost entirely ladies over 60. Posted by: Ian S. at June 14, 2025 12:36 PM (QZThv) 168
MN State Patrol @MnDPS_MSP Given the targeted shootings of state lawmakers overnight, we are asking the public to not attend today’s planned demonstrations across Minnesota out of an abundance of caution. https://t.ly/F3F-K Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 14, 2025 12:37 PM (63Dwl) 169
I liked Two and a Half Men the first five or so seasons but then they went gay and then super gay after Charlie Sheen left.
Posted by: polynikes at June 14, 2025 12:37 PM (VofaG) Posted by: jsg at June 14, 2025 12:37 PM (iGK7y) 171
Minnesota Star-Tribune (from Instapundit):
https://shorturl.at/zS9PN Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 14, 2025 12:38 PM (ULPxl) 172
MN State Patrol
@MnDPS_MSP Given the targeted shootings of state lawmakers overnight, we are asking the public to not attend today’s planned demonstrations across Minnesota out of an abundance of caution. https://t.ly/F3F-K Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 14, 2025 12:37 PM (63Dwl) Sounds like they are insinuating it was Conservative... Posted by: It's me donna at June 14, 2025 12:38 PM (VE6XX) 173
So glad to see you're on the mend, KT.
Glad to have ya back! Posted by: redridinghood at June 14, 2025 12:39 PM (NpAcC) 174
I had brain surgery (a craniotomy) nearly 30 years ago...
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 14, 2025 12:36 PM (ZtAny) That explains a lot. Just kidding, but you know I had to say it. Posted by: BurtTC at June 14, 2025 12:39 PM (+cfsD) 175
They have to figure out the guys middle name before they can post it.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 14, 2025 12:39 PM (KhjS7) Posted by: It's me donna at June 14, 2025 12:39 PM (VE6XX) 177
143 Am I crazy?
Posted by: BurtTC ********* Yes. Do you want a second opinion? You're also homely. *** Guy goes into the pharmacy and asks where to find the talcum. Pharmacist says, "Walk this way." Guy says, "If I could walk that way I wouldn't need the talcum." Posted by: Diogenes at June 14, 2025 12:39 PM (W/lyH) 178
"Not so fast Diogenes! You're a great usher."
Sigh... ******** My wife was told after first few choir practices that her "services were no longer required". By her aunt, the choir director. Posted by: muldoon at June 14, 2025 12:40 PM (/iMjX) 179
LA Kings hardest hit.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 14, 2025 12:41 PM (KhjS7) 180
147 Prayers to all the Morons needing extra blessings, healing, and comfort.
Posted by: LizLem at June 14, 2025 12:31 PM (gWBY1) Thank you so much! Everyone Posted by: Stateless.. 27% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 14, 2025 12:41 PM (jvJvP) 181
Guy goes into the pharmacy and asks where to find the talcum.
Pharmacist says, "Walk this way." Guy says, "If I could walk that way I wouldn't need the talcum." Posted by: Diogenes at June 14, 2025 12:39 PM (W/lyH) Read in Rodney Dangerfield voice. Posted by: BurtTC at June 14, 2025 12:41 PM (+cfsD) 182
An Iranian 747 purportedly belonging to the mullahs left Tehran about a half hour ago. Destination unknown as they've turned off their tracking beacon. Speculation is that this is an evacuation flight with what's left of Iran's ruling government.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 14, 2025 12:41 PM (Q4IgG) 183
And FoxNews has been a string of talking heads..
Posted by: Stateless.. 27% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 14, 2025 12:41 PM (jvJvP) 184
182 An Iranian 747 purportedly belonging to the mullahs left Tehran
Occulted imams? How unoriginal. Posted by: gKWVE at June 14, 2025 12:42 PM (KAw7u) 185
I hope they remembered to pack the treasury
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 14, 2025 12:43 PM (KhjS7) 186
. Speculation is that this is an evacuation flight with what's left of Iran's ruling government.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 14, 2025 12:41 PM (Q4IgG They'll make someone lovely new nieghbors. Posted by: Stateless.. 27% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 14, 2025 12:43 PM (jvJvP) 187
Journalist Saleh al-Fafowari
has been kiled by Israeli strikes while reporting from Iran. This tragic incident comes only 2 months after his previous death in Gaza. _timesAlgebra (India News) https://tinyurl.com/5n88ca78 Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 14, 2025 12:43 PM (6dYPy) 188
I liked the Andy Griffith episode where Barney was in the choir and they got him to lip sync Gomer without him realizing it.
Posted by: polynikes at June 14, 2025 12:44 PM (VofaG) 189
That explains a lot.
Just kidding, but you know I had to say it. Posted by: BurtTC at June 14, 2025 12:39 PM (+cfsD) Ha! I like to say I have medical documentation and eyewitness testimony that I do, indeed, have a brain! How well it works is a different question…. Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 14, 2025 12:44 PM (OW907) 190
184 182 An Iranian 747 purportedly belonging to the mullahs left Tehran
---------------- And all the people said, Don't forget to lock the door. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 14, 2025 12:45 PM (6dYPy) 191
They have a big orange balloon.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 14, 2025 12:45 PM (KhjS7) 192
Tim Walz a but assured me it would be tje work of a Right Wing Dsath Squad
Posted by: Skip at June 14, 2025 12:46 PM (+qU29) 193
Did yhey check the flaps?
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 14, 2025 12:46 PM (KhjS7) 194
>>Sounds like they are insinuating it was Conservative...
With No Kings flyers in his car? Seems doubtful. Posted by: JackStraw at June 14, 2025 12:46 PM (viF8m) 195
Wife's cousin, in high school choir (mandatory participation), was asked not to sing because 'you're throwing Mother Superior off'.
Posted by: Nazdar at June 14, 2025 12:47 PM (NcvvS) 196
Also:
-------- OSINTdefender @sentdefender A massive 246-character Emergency Action Message (EAM) broadcasted today via the U.S. Air Force’s High Frequency Global Communications System (HFGCS). ===== EAM's are encrypted, so even though it was captured, nobody outside the HFGCS knows what it said. Yet. But EAM's when not used for training are basically an alert to action. Personally, I'd be looking all over Iran and points east and south, away from Israel and US forces, for a lone Iranian 747. Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 14, 2025 12:47 PM (Q4IgG) 197
A Schoolhouse Rock Officianado.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 14, 2025 12:47 PM (KhjS7) 198
192 Tim Walz a but assured me it would be tje work of a Right Wing Dsath Squad
Posted by: Skip at June 14, 2025 12:46 PM (+qU29) They still make it sound like it is.. If it was a Lib why would they tell the "protesters" to stay home ? Posted by: It's me donna at June 14, 2025 12:47 PM (VE6XX) 199
>>An Iranian 747 purportedly belonging to the mullahs left Tehran
Funny how they are always encouraging their lunatic followers to die for Allah but when it comes to their own lives they are leaving on a jet plane. Posted by: JackStraw at June 14, 2025 12:48 PM (viF8m) 200
They tell me that back of the hand is preferable for surgeries as it's more secure. I don't know if that's accurate.
Posted by: polynikes ******** Yes. Back of the hand IV catheters usually don't reach the level of the wrist joint, whereas front of the elbow (antecubital fossa) often is vulnerable to arm flexing, even if an arm board is used. Posted by: muldoon at June 14, 2025 12:49 PM (/iMjX) 201
With No Kings flyers in his car? Seems doubtful. Posted by: JackStraw at June 14, 2025 12:46 PM (viF8m) He was targeting the protests... Sounds to me what they are insinuating.... Posted by: It's me donna at June 14, 2025 12:49 PM (VE6XX) 202
Drove by the No Kings rally in my city about 11:30, half an hour before it was scheduled to start. Looked like maybe a couple of hundred. The farmers market three blocks away had a similar sized crowd.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 14, 2025 12:49 PM (ITkJX) 203
If it was a Lib why would they tell the "protesters" to stay home ?
A liberal shooter would likely blend in well at one of the protests. Easy way to hide in plain sight. Posted by: Ian S. at June 14, 2025 12:50 PM (QZThv) 204
HFGCS sounds like corn syrup.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 14, 2025 12:50 PM (63Dwl) 205
Okay, had to look it up.
DFL stands for Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party, which, in Minnesota is the party affiliated with the national Democratic Party. Had never heard of it. I was familiar with it in competitive rowing: Dead Effin Last. Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 14, 2025 12:50 PM (lIgBp) 206
152 Incidentally, for those of who don't know who "jon cryer" is, he was the "normal" co-star on Two & Half Men.
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 14, 2025 12:09 PM (DxRBB) The Alan Harper character was in no way normal… He was a neurotic eunuch Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 14, 2025 12:31 PM (P/Wjn) I only watched bits and pieces of that show, but yes he was a pathetic character. I also don't understand how Sheen's character was always up to his ears in poon. Rich guy, sure, but no game, no personality. It was just a given in the universe of the show that women were flocking to him. It was just odd. Posted by: TV shows make no sense. Then again, neither does real life. at June 14, 2025 12:51 PM (TbWk/) 207
Man runs into a hospital saying "Help, help, I have a foreign object in my skull!"
They take him back to x-ray, and sure enough, they find a tapeworm wrapped around the brain. So they rush him into surgery. Afterwards, the surgeon comes in to his recovery room, and asks "How are you feeling." Tapeworm says "Much better, that macaroni looking thing was creeping me out." Posted by: BurtTC at June 14, 2025 12:51 PM (wy5wi) 208
>>>#BREAKING: The man who kiIIed Minnesota Rep. Melissa Hortman this morning had “NO KINGS” fliers in his car
I've also seen the claim going around on Twitter that both of the targets had joined Republicans in ending free healthcare for illegals. Posted by: Dr. T at June 14, 2025 12:51 PM (jGGMD) 209
DFL stands for Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party, which, in Minnesota is the party affiliated with the national Democratic Party.
Minnesota has a separate Dem party, the DFL, and a separate Republican party, the IR (Independent Republicans). Both are to the left of their national parties. Posted by: Ian S. at June 14, 2025 12:51 PM (QZThv) 210
I've also seen the claim going around on Twitter that both of the targets had joined Republicans in ending free healthcare for illegals.
They did, the big media confirmed it. Insty's been tracking the real news on this pretty well. Posted by: Ian S. at June 14, 2025 12:51 PM (QZThv) 211
I liked the Andy Griffith episode where Barney was in the choir and they got him to lip sync Gomer without him realizing it.
Posted by: polynikes _________ Was it Gomer? I thought it was the old dude with a really deep bass voice. Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 14, 2025 12:52 PM (ITkJX) 212
Ha! I like to say I have medical documentation and eyewitness testimony that I do, indeed, have a brain! How well it works is a different question….
Posted by: LinusVanPelt ********** Never used. Still in the original container. Posted by: muldoon at June 14, 2025 12:52 PM (/iMjX) 213
Funny how they are always encouraging their lunatic followers to die for Allah but when it comes to their own lives they are leaving on a jet plane.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 14, 2025 12:48 PM (viF8m) This really calls for a mashup with a video of a Khameini rant matched to the audio of "Leaving On A Jet Plane". Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 14, 2025 12:53 PM (+blYj) 214
A Speaker even.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 14, 2025 12:54 PM (KhjS7) 215
Was it Gomer? I thought it was the old dude with a really deep bass voice.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 14, 2025 12:52 PM (ITkJX) Jim Nabors had an extremely good and rich singing voice, although it's been quite a while since I've seen this episode. Posted by: Tom Servo at June 14, 2025 12:54 PM (uWKK8) 216
>>He was targeting the protests... Sounds to me what they are insinuating....
I think they know what happened. One of their crazed followers took the natural next step they've been egging someone to take with all of their insane rhetoric about kings and fascists. What they didn't expect was that he was going to shoot some of their own for having the audacity of voting to stop giving free healthcare to illegals. Apostates are always hated more than the enemy. There's a crazy, murderous leftist on the loose and they have no idea who or what he will do next but they need to tamp down the rhetoric right now. Posted by: JackStraw at June 14, 2025 12:54 PM (viF8m) 217
Jim Neighbors was a very talented singer.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 14, 2025 12:55 PM (lIgBp) 218
NOOD
Posted by: Erebus- Ex Killer Whale at June 14, 2025 12:55 PM (oWCdy) 219
Man calls customer service and says "My penis doesn't work."
Customer service asks "Have you tried turning it off and turning it back on?" Posted by: BurtTC at June 14, 2025 12:55 PM (wy5wi) 220
Gaza Notifications @gazanotice 32m
🚨BREAKING While the world fixates on Israel-Iran tensions, Gaza remains cut off, starved, and hunted --------------------- Good. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 14, 2025 12:55 PM (6dYPy) 221
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOD
Posted by: Erebus- Ex Killer Whale at June 14, 2025 12:56 PM (oWCdy) 222
These murders happened at like two in the morning.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 14, 2025 12:56 PM (lIgBp) 223
182 An Iranian 747 purportedly belonging to the mullahs left Tehran about a half hour ago. Destination unknown as they've turned off their tracking beacon. Speculation is that this is an evacuation flight with what's left of Iran's ruling government.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 14, 2025 12:41 PM (Q4IgG) They just remembered they were all invited to a sudden dinner party up at their friend Assad's new house up in Moscow. Posted by: Tom Servo at June 14, 2025 12:57 PM (uWKK8) 224
Grew up with "the world is doomed and you are screwed"
Which is far better than the current generation who is growing up with "we are importing people to screw you" Posted by: Kindltot at June 14, 2025 12:04 PM (D7oie) Growing up in the 50's we were sure we wouldn't live to see adulthood. The Cuban Missile crisis when I was 15, was the peak. We weren't sure we would see our parents again by the end of that school day. Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at June 14, 2025 12:57 PM (5xuJ/) 225
Happy to see you back, I am so glad you are well. I do hope you will feel like a grasshopper soon.
My thoughts on civilization: it will go on until it cannot, and then it will rebuild. The church is eternal and the breath of civilization. Posted by: rdohd at June 14, 2025 12:57 PM (lz2XK) 226
These murders happened at like two in the morning.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 14, 2025 12:56 PM (lIgBp) Right about the time I finish making love to my wife, Morgan Fairchild. Posted by: BurtTC at June 14, 2025 12:57 PM (yuCN0) Posted by: BurtTC at June 14, 2025 12:58 PM (yuCN0) 228
That's what SHE said.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 14, 2025 12:58 PM (yuCN0) 229
Posted by: muldoon at June 14, 2025 12:40 PM (/iMjX)
MY BIL (who played soccer as a lad in school) had choir in his school in England. The choir director told him to go out during the choir practice and inflate the soccer balls instead of singing. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 14, 2025 12:58 PM (2GCMq) 230
They have to figure out the guys middle name before they can post it.
Wayne. Studies have shown that giving your son the middle name Wayne increases his chances of becoming a serial killer by 87% Posted by: Oddbob at June 14, 2025 12:59 PM (/y8xj) 231
There's a crazy, murderous leftist on the loose and they have no idea who or what he will do next but they need to tamp down the rhetoric right now.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 14, 2025 12:54 PM (viF8m) Also apparently was taking shots at cops. Cops are going to be pretty trigger-happy as a result; they hate that. Smart thing for Leftards to do: stay away from those demonstrations. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 14, 2025 12:59 PM (+blYj) 232
To be warned: @sentdefender is an account run by a humorless retard. He's seen here completely failing to understand an obvious joke tweet:
x.com/sentdefender/status/1933720688814104644 Posted by: gKWVE at June 14, 2025 12:59 PM (KAw7u) 233
Have a nice rest of your weekend, morons.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 14, 2025 01:01 PM (viF8m) 234
Was it Gomer? I thought it was the old dude with a really deep bass voice.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 14, 2025 12:52 PM (ITkJX) Yeah I might have misremembered. Posted by: polynikes at June 14, 2025 01:02 PM (VofaG) 235
Karol Markowicz tweeted out what could be the name of the assassin in Minnesota.
https://tinyurl.com/4z4rre8j Nevertheless, it would be wise to keep the 48-hour rule in mind. Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at June 14, 2025 01:04 PM (026f8) 236
Nevertheless, it would be wise to keep the 48-hour rule in mind.
Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at June 14, 2025 01:04 PM (026f One of the cops just said the No kings fliers means he was gonna attack there.... Posted by: It's me donna at June 14, 2025 01:06 PM (VE6XX) Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 14, 2025 01:07 PM (63Dwl) 238
A woman I know lives a few miles from one of the shootings. She posted she is locking her doors and hiding in her home. Her local friends are already blaming Trump.
Fools. Posted by: Diogenes at June 14, 2025 01:10 PM (W/lyH) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 14, 2025 01:10 PM (6dYPy) 240
Good to see you KT, thanks for your contributions here, I enjoy the topics you bring. Sorry to hear of the health troubles. I pray God keep you in His peace and care.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at June 14, 2025 01:12 PM (PcTds) 241
238 A woman I know lives a few miles from one of the shootings. She posted she is locking her doors and hiding in her home. Her local friends are already blaming Trump.
Fools. Posted by: Diogenes at June 14, 2025 01:10 PM (W/lyH) ************* A poster on another board I frequent (which is just as fast at posting news as here) had posted this: "Oof Things just got complicated for the media Dem victims of gun violence Likely a white radical leftist shooter This will cause flowchart issue" Indeed. If Boelter is the shooter and is a Democrat, this really will cause a flowchart issue with the left. Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at June 14, 2025 01:15 PM (026f8) 242
9m 🚨 #BREAKING: The man who kiIIed Minnesota Rep. Melissa Hortman this morning had “NO KINGS” fliers in his car MORE DEMOCRAT TERR0RISM! ALL “No Kings” protests should be cancelled NOW! Posted by: JackStraw ==== I did not know that someone got wacked. Before this posted that Pedilla was a deliberate probing attack to see how VIP security would react and no matter what they would be accused of 'over-reacting' with the intent of weakening defenses. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 14, 2025 01:16 PM (/lPRQ) 243
Stephen L. Miller tweeted that this is the anniversary of the Bernie Bro shooter trying to assassinate the GOP leadership at the softball game:
https://tinyurl.com/2cmuzp4s Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at June 14, 2025 01:18 PM (026f8) 244
Shooter was appointed to a workforce board by Walz in 2019.
Posted by: Ghoulposts at June 14, 2025 01:18 PM (qUkBO) 245
Gomer Pyle, USMC, singing The Impossible Dream
https://youtu.be/yJlgio-UOng?si=6Dco1hc4JVaz0Ghq&t=239 Posted by: olddog in mo at June 14, 2025 01:18 PM (BwZyW) 246
K.T. - Very good to see you. It seems that almost everyone that I know is experiencing slings and arrows, so I've become sensitive to almost everyone's circumstances. My sympathies (and prayers) are with you.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 14, 2025 01:19 PM (XeU6L) 247
Remember the bat bomb project in WWII. The premise was to strap incendiary devices onto a large number of bats and air drop them over Japanese cities, where the bats would swoop down, find a place to sleep and when the delayed incendiaries went off a massive conflagration would spread through the wood and paper structures.
It never came to fruition. This No Kings Day reminds me of that. I think they want some (several? many?) of the sites to have an incident of violence, or counterprotests or radicals to bust out. Perhaps sparking a wider conflagration. Posted by: muldoon at June 14, 2025 01:21 PM (/iMjX) 248
Dem Minnesota lawmaker assassination by someone impersonating police. Looks like a false flag to me.
Link goes to Fox News: https://tinyurl.com/2vh4wzsx Might need a second open thread today. Posted by: Max Power at June 14, 2025 01:22 PM (q177U) 249
Collin Rugg @CollinRugg
REPORT: Shortly before Minnesota Rep. Melissa Hortman was shot and k*lled, she broke down in tears in front of cameras after siding with Republicans. Hortman was the lone Democrat who voted to cut health care access for adult illegal [aliens]. "I did what leaders do... I stepped up and I got the job done for the people of Minnesota." Hortman and her husband were k*lled shortly after this video was taken in their home. Police believe it was politically motivated. Video: KTTC (Shared on YouTube) https://bit.ly/4ed3j1x Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 14, 2025 01:24 PM (P5BPp) 250
The Minn. killer was anti govt. No MAGA there....Wanted to have the No Kings protests go after the police.....
Posted by: It's me donna at June 14, 2025 01:27 PM (VE6XX) 251
BREAKING: Minnesota lawmaker shooting suspect is reportedly Vance Luther Boelter, appointed by Governor Tim Walz to a state workforce board in 2019 - @Julio_Rosas11
https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1933935442228846605 Posted by: olddog in mo at June 14, 2025 01:33 PM (BwZyW) 252
BREAKING: Minnesota lawmaker shooting suspect is reportedly Vance Luther Boelter, appointed by Governor Tim Walz to a state workforce board in 2019 - @Julio_Rosas11
https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1933935442228846605 Posted by: olddog in mo at June 14, 2025 01:33 PM (BwZyW) Uh oh. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 14, 2025 01:36 PM (CA3k/) Posted by: gKWVE at June 14, 2025 01:37 PM (KAw7u) 254
Posted by: muldoon at June 14, 2025 01:21 PM (/iMjX)
The bat bomb thing was a fruity idea, but they did still fire bomb Tokyo. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 14, 2025 01:37 PM (CA3k/) 255
Tampon tim jumped right out and said it was "politically motivated" on account of closely divided legislature. So that means he knows it was one of his jihadis who did it, but is blaming Us.
Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at June 14, 2025 11:45 AM My guess is he immediately called it "politically motivated" in order to blame it on Trump supporters. One look at X and there are a lot of posts of people doing just that. Almost all of whom had no idea that these legislators just voted against healthcare for illegal aliens, a vote that Trump supporters would support. Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 14, 2025 01:39 PM (P5BPp) 256
Wow, that was a link fail above. Trying again:
https://shorturl.at/bSjbm Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 14, 2025 01:42 PM (ULPxl) 257
His Facebook Page is already gone.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 14, 2025 01:42 PM (KhjS7) 258
His Facebook Page is already gone.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 14, 2025 01:42 PM (KhjS7) I wonder if facebook does that on their own or at the request of Leo? Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 14, 2025 01:43 PM (CA3k/) 259
Praetorian Guard Security Services.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 14, 2025 01:43 PM (KhjS7) 260
Sounds like they are insinuating it was Conservative...
Posted by: It's me donna Sure aint't gonna point out it was one their pinko guvnor's political cronies. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 14, 2025 01:43 PM (/lPRQ) 261
Sure aint't gonna point out it was one their pinko guvnor's political cronies.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 14, 2025 01:43 PM (/lPRQ) Well, they have been ionizing the political assassins, so... Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 14, 2025 01:44 PM (CA3k/) 262
An Iranian 747 purportedly belonging to the mullahs left Tehran about a half hour ago. Destination unknown as they've turned off their tracking beacon. Speculation is that this is an evacuation flight with what's left of Iran's ruling government.
Posted by: Martini Farmer Could be full of five-gallon buckets filled with gas and headed for Notre Dame. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 14, 2025 01:45 PM (/lPRQ) 263
When Tampon Timmeh said he knew lots of school shooters, what he really meant to say was...
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 14, 2025 01:45 PM (ULPxl) 264
Lionizing, phone not ionizing. That's something else.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 14, 2025 01:45 PM (CA3k/) 265
MN Africans United.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 14, 2025 01:46 PM (KhjS7) 266
looks like not conservative politically, but affiliated with some church? which definitely does not equal conservative politically. he seemed very invested in immigration, possibly his church was making bank off it
other than the church affiliation, he seems leftist Posted by: Black Orchid at June 14, 2025 01:46 PM (Pv3Rg) 267
Could be full of five-gallon buckets filled with gas and headed for Notre Dame.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 14, 2025 01:45 PM (/lPRQ) Israel should shoot it down, just to be sure. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 14, 2025 01:46 PM (CA3k/) 268
>>> 261 Sure aint't gonna point out it was one their pinko guvnor's political cronies.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 14, 2025 01:43 PM (/lPRQ) Well, they have been lionizing the political assassins, so... Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 14, 2025 01:44 PM (CA3k/) Over / under on retardo slobbering over this new leftist murderer? Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 14, 2025 01:47 PM (ULPxl) 269
he seemed very invested in immigration, possibly his church was making bank off it
other than the church affiliation, he seems leftist Posted by: Black Orchid at June 14, 2025 01:46 PM (Pv3Rg) Would make sense in the context of that lawmaker at that time. 24/48/72 hour rule. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 14, 2025 01:47 PM (CA3k/) 270
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 14, 2025 01:47 PM (ULPxl)
*fistbump for correction* see, she knew what I meant. Not like you, phone. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 14, 2025 01:48 PM (CA3k/) 271
Nevertheless, it would be wise to keep the 48-hour rule in mind.
Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at June 14, 2025 01:04 PM (026f One of the cops just said the No kings fliers means he was gonna attack there.... Posted by: It's me donna What about the other 499 copies hot off the press? Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 14, 2025 01:51 PM (/lPRQ) 272
Huh. They canceled the no kings thing in Minneapolis?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 14, 2025 01:51 PM (CA3k/) 273
Although I would be ok ionizing Luigi and the other asshole.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 14, 2025 01:52 PM (CA3k/) 274
Might be quickest blame the opponents asap knowing it's one of yours
Posted by: Skip at June 14, 2025 01:53 PM (+qU29) 275
The King of Minneapolis cancelled the No Kings Race Riot?
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 14, 2025 01:53 PM (KhjS7) Posted by: olddog in mo at June 14, 2025 01:54 PM (BwZyW) 277
The suspect was Director of Patrols at a private security firm, which is how he had an LEO-looking uniform.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 14, 2025 01:54 PM (AEv3H) 278
Might be quickest blame the opponents asap knowing it's one of yours
Posted by: Skip at June 14, 2025 01:53 PM (+qU29) Yeah, kind of my initial read. 'I'm not crying- you're crying!' Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 14, 2025 01:54 PM (CA3k/) 279
Also he ran a lefty NGO that lost all its funding to DOGE.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 14, 2025 01:55 PM (AEv3H) 280
Suspect is a former WALZ appointee??
https://nypost.com/2025/06/14/ us-news/suspect-in-deadly-minnesota-shootings -identified-as-vance-luther-boelter/ Posted by: Nova Local at June 14, 2025 01:57 PM (tOcjL) 281
REPORT: Shortly before Minnesota Rep. Melissa Hortman was shot and k*lled, she broke down in tears in front of cameras after siding with Republicans. Hortman was the lone Democrat who voted to cut health care access for adult illegal [aliens]. "I did what leaders do... I stepped up and I got the job done for the people of Minnesota." === She'll never do that again. - side with repups - go against illegals - cut free shit - stand up for citizens Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 14, 2025 01:58 PM (/lPRQ) 282
The suspect was Director of Patrols at a private security firm, which is how he had an LEO-looking uniform.
********* Paul Blart? Posted by: muldoon at June 14, 2025 01:58 PM (/iMjX) 283
Red Lion Group in the Congo. NGO recently ran out of moolah.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 14, 2025 01:59 PM (KhjS7) 284
Before that he was a 711 manager?
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 14, 2025 02:00 PM (KhjS7) Posted by: olddog in mo at June 14, 2025 02:00 PM (BwZyW) 286
The 57 years old part seems a little odd.
Posted by: muldoon at June 14, 2025 02:01 PM (/iMjX) 287
Before that he was a 711 manager?
Posted by: Boss Moss ---------- That's GENERAL Manager to you, sir. Posted by: olddog in mo at June 14, 2025 02:02 PM (BwZyW) 288
Epaulets?
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 14, 2025 02:05 PM (KhjS7) 289
Looks like they are calling for someone to "86" President Trump at the "No Kings" thing in Michigan...
Matthew S. DePerno, Esq. @mdeperno Hey @dananessel, the most corrupt attorney general in the country, are you doing anything about these threats made by the Democratic Party? Or do you just go after Republicans? X: https://bit.ly/44euTbb Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 14, 2025 02:07 PM (P5BPp) 290
Molotov cocktails are mostly peacefull.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 14, 2025 02:08 PM (KhjS7) 291
Hmmm... seems the Ghost of Keeevvv is now in Iran... they say they shot down 2 F-35s...
No word from Israel. Posted by: Romeo13 at June 14, 2025 02:10 PM (mP0Kj) Posted by: olddog in mo at June 14, 2025 02:11 PM (BwZyW) 293
Explosion or bomb outside a Casino in Vegas... early reports
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 14, 2025 02:18 PM (mP0Kj) 294
Elon Musk @elonmusk
The far left is murderously violent Z @insatiablevine The left kills the CEO of United Healthcare Kills two Israeli ambassadors staffers Attempts twice to assassinate the President Doxes and attempts to murder federal ICE agents and Police - all week And now kills a MN state rep and her husband and injures a Senator and his wife The left has become a full blown domestic terrorist organization. Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 14, 2025 02:19 PM (P5BPp) 295
Explosion or bomb outside a Casino in Vegas... early reports
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 14, 2025 02:18 PM Referring the one earlier this morning near the Aria? ViralNewsHQ @viralposts2323 BREAKING: MASSIVE EXPLOSION ROCKS LAS VEGAS STRIP A powerful blast near Aria Resort & Casino sent smoke into the night sky. Palm trees ignited, emergency crews rushed in. A car fled the scene — connection still unclear. No injuries reported. X Videos: https://bit.ly/3HHjWGl Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 14, 2025 02:22 PM (P5BPp) 296
Explosion or bomb outside a Casino in Vegas... early reports
Posted by: Romeo13 CONFIRMED - Del Taco Epic Burrito afterblast. Very deviating. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 14, 2025 02:23 PM (/lPRQ) 297
Israel Defense Forces @IDF
Iran posted this video to show the world how powerful they are. We showed the world what happens when you mistake propaganda for strength. The Iranian Chief of Staff and Commander of the IRGC featured in this Iranian propaganda video have been eliminated and the site has been struck. https://x.com/IDF/status/1933944730775089548 Posted by: olddog in mo at June 14, 2025 02:24 PM (BwZyW) 298
Elon Musk @elonmusk
The far left is murderously violent In my opinion, the difference between the "left" and the "far left" is about the same as the difference between "moderate Muslims" and "radical Muslims". Just like "moderate Muslims" support the violence of "radical Muslims", so too does the "left" support the "murderously violent" actions of the "far left". And the Democrat Party is the mouthpiece for the "far left" encouraging and promoting and supporting their murderous violence. Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 14, 2025 02:25 PM (P5BPp) 299
Las Vegas explosion had to be from last night it looks
Posted by: Skip at June 14, 2025 02:31 PM (+qU29) 300
Strolling through X:
@IAbhay_Pratap 42m Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu's big statement - Israeli Airforce will soon attack Iran - #Israel's planes will drop bombs from #Iran's skies - Will destroy all Khamenei's bases - Will liberate Iran from Khamenei's rule Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 14, 2025 02:32 PM (6dYPy) 301
Looks like we have here Hutu Power bumping off a moderate.
Posted by: gKWVE at June 14, 2025 02:33 PM (KAw7u) 302
300 Strolling through X:
@IAbhay_Pratap 42m Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu's big statement - Israeli Airforce will soon attack Iran - #Israel's planes will drop bombs from #Iran's skies - Will destroy all Khamenei's bases - Will liberate Iran from Khamenei's rule Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 14, 2025 02:32 PM (6dYPy) Sooooo... All your bases belong to us? Posted by: Romeo13 at June 14, 2025 02:33 PM (mP0Kj) 303
Saw on X that while airports are closed regime family members are flying out on chartered planes.
Posted by: olddog in mo at June 14, 2025 02:35 PM (BwZyW) 304
Damn, sad neighborhood day... Couple who lives across the street are finally permanently in a nursing home... their Kids are over there like a swarm of Locusts looting the place, and got a big dumpster out front...
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 14, 2025 02:36 PM (mP0Kj) 305
>>> 277 The suspect was Director of Patrols at a private security firm, which is how he had an LEO-looking uniform.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 14, 2025 01:54 PM (AEv3H) I wonder if his private security firm collected information to be shared with anyone else. Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 14, 2025 02:38 PM (ULPxl) 306
303 Saw on X that while airports are closed regime family members are flying out on chartered planes.
Posted by: olddog in mo at June 14, 2025 02:35 PM (BwZyW) Going to be interesting to see where they land. I doubt Putin wants their trouble on his doorstep as complicated as his own problems are. Posted by: Romeo13 at June 14, 2025 02:38 PM (mP0Kj) 307
Congolese Liberation Army?
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 14, 2025 02:38 PM (KhjS7) 308
It would be too funny if it caused a Iranian regime change
Posted by: Skip at June 14, 2025 02:40 PM (+qU29) Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 14, 2025 02:45 PM (ULPxl) 310
Texas Marathon Oil Facility on fire.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 14, 2025 02:48 PM (KhjS7) 311
309 https://is.gd/EIyBNb
@HarmeetKDhillon Hey everyone: "No Kings" day is July 4. Pass it on! Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 14, 2025 02:45 PM (ULPxl) ********* Speaking of "No Kings" day, King Charles is going to have to send out the Household Cavalry to put down this protest: https://tinyurl.com/43kukde3 Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at June 14, 2025 02:49 PM (026f8) 312
309 https://is.gd/EIyBNb
@HarmeetKDhillon Hey everyone: "No Kings" day is July 4. Pass it on! Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 14, 2025 02:45 PM (ULPxl) The King is a Fink! Posted by: Romeo13 at June 14, 2025 02:49 PM (mP0Kj) 313
Hey everyone:
"No Kings" day is July 4. Pass it on! Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 14, 2025 02:45 PM (ULPxl) Just sent this reminder to my buddies in the UK. They laughed. Posted by: Diogenes at June 14, 2025 02:50 PM (W/lyH) 314
The peasants are revolting!
Posted by: toby928 at June 14, 2025 02:50 PM (jc0TO) 315
The peasants are revolting.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 14, 2025 02:50 PM (KhjS7) 316
No Fuchs Kings!
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 14, 2025 02:50 PM (Aqu9a) 317
Jinx
Posted by: toby928 at June 14, 2025 02:51 PM (jc0TO) 318
Dang.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 14, 2025 02:51 PM (KhjS7) 319
The peasants are revolting!
Posted by: toby928 at June 14, 2025 02:50 PM (jc0TO) Posted by: Boss Moss at June 14, 2025 02:50 PM (KhjS7) They stink on ice. Posted by: Count de Monet at June 14, 2025 02:52 PM (Aqu9a) 320
Texas City shelter-in-place issued due to incident at Marathon refinery
https://shorturl.at/Px7Op Prankster set off fireworks on Las Vegas Strip that 'sounded like a bomb': cops https://shorturl.at/mwqt1 Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 14, 2025 02:53 PM (ULPxl) 321
no kings but Empress of India, she was okay :^x
In fairness, Victoria was pretty based... Posted by: gKWVE at June 14, 2025 02:54 PM (uxZu+) 322
- Will liberate Iran from Khamenei's rule
Posted by: Braenyard Whoa. Take it easy there buddy. I thought the strike was to just slow down the weapons program for another few years to do it all again. This is almost like retaliation for that massive October terrorist strike sponsored by Iran... and, well, Trump did tell 'em it's a limited time offer. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 14, 2025 02:54 PM (/lPRQ) 323
I foresee that the Ukes will be very willing to settle with Russia, soon.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 14, 2025 02:55 PM (/lPRQ) 324
I like July 4 No Kings day
Posted by: Skip at June 14, 2025 02:56 PM (+qU29) 325
Turn off airconditioning? Get bent.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 14, 2025 02:56 PM (KhjS7) 326
Prankster set off fireworks on Las Vegas Strip that 'sounded like a bomb': cops
https://shorturl.at/mwqt1 Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 14, 2025 02:53 PM (ULPxl) Thing is, you KNOW that area has got to be covered in Video Cameras.... Posted by: Romeo13 at June 14, 2025 03:02 PM (mP0Kj) 327
Thing is, you KNOW that area has got to be covered in Video Cameras....
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 14, 2025 03:02 PM (mP0Kj) Say wut? Posted by: Washington, D.C. at June 14, 2025 03:03 PM (Aqu9a) 328
>>> 326 Prankster set off fireworks on Las Vegas Strip that 'sounded like a bomb': cops
https://shorturl.at/mwqt1 Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 14, 2025 02:53 PM (ULPxl) Thing is, you KNOW that area has got to be covered in Video Cameras.... Posted by: Romeo13 at June 14, 2025 03:02 PM (mP0Kj) They were off for a few minutes. Oops! Posted by: Top Men and Whammen of the Eff.Bee.EYE at June 14, 2025 03:04 PM (ULPxl) 329
They were off for a few minutes. Oops!
Posted by: Top Men and Whammen of the Eff.Bee.EYE at June 14, 2025 03:04 PM (ULPxl) Dry. Run. Posted by: gKWVE at June 14, 2025 03:06 PM (uxZu+) 330
Handmaids Tale March in Fort Worth.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 14, 2025 03:06 PM (KhjS7) 331
Tim Waltz name was on his list.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 14, 2025 03:07 PM (KhjS7) 332
Just got a weird phone call and I have to say, if my name was Scam Likely, I would change it.
Posted by: toby928 at June 14, 2025 03:15 PM (+EG6t) 333
Just got a weird phone call and I have to say, if my name was Scam Likely, I would change it.
Posted by: toby928 at June 14, 2025 03:15 PM (+EG6t) Heh. Posted by: Count de Monet at June 14, 2025 03:20 PM (Aqu9a) 334
Watched some video from the Army's 250th birthday celebration on 𝕏. Soldiers with, what I'm presuming are mockup weapons, or weapons made inert, with average Americans picking up a LAW, standing in a HUMVEE behind a mounted machine gun, etc. Everyone's grinning from ear to ear.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 14, 2025 03:30 PM (Q4IgG) 335
The parade starts at 5:30 CT. Some of the vids online I've seen were from practice runs day or two ago.
Posted by: olddog in mo at June 14, 2025 03:32 PM (BwZyW) 336
Corey A. DeAngelis, school choice evangelist @DeAngelisCorey
Here's Randi Weingarten leading a "No Kings" rally today. Abolish teachers unions. https://bit.ly/45XFYPb Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 14, 2025 03:37 PM (P5BPp) 337
Kyle Seraphin @KyleSeraphin
Alleged MN shooter works at two funeral homes 6 days a week, but he worked in DRC (Congo) on food supply projects, and now he owns a SECURITY company? And he was appointed to a Workforce Dev Board by current gov Tim Walz in 2019? Dad of 5? What the hell? X Video: https://bit.ly/4jNiT5a Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 14, 2025 03:44 PM (P5BPp) 338
DataRepublican (small r) @DataRepublican
Vince Boelter has an interesting property history in Pierson, Iowa. Separately, he bought a house in Green Isle, MN for $520,000 in 2023 and seems to have a couple other properties there. Unclear if the Minnesota properties were purchased with cash. DataRepublican (small r) @DataRepublican I've done quite a few real estate transactions, and this one makes me scratch my head big time. This looks like almost a way to launder the $99,900. X: https://bit.ly/3ZzckMq Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 14, 2025 03:49 PM (P5BPp) 339
BREAKING: IRAN THREATENS TO STRIKE DIMONA —
@iraninarabic_ir : "Dimona Reactor" Nothing like a cryptic message to add to the suspense of a potential global war. Iran is now allegedly threatening to target Israel’s Dimona nuclear reactor - and if you’re wondering why that’s more than just a scary-sounding place, buckle up. Posted by: olddog in mo at June 14, 2025 03:51 PM (BwZyW) 340
Dimona is home to Israel’s highly secretive nuclear facility, officially called the Shimon Peres Negev Nuclear Research Center.
It’s not listed in any tourist brochure, and for good reason - it’s long believed to be where Israel developed and maintains its undeclared nuclear arsenal. Israel has never confirmed having nukes, but the global consensus? It does. A lot. https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/1933970646649696732 Posted by: olddog in mo at June 14, 2025 03:53 PM (BwZyW) 341
Nood, ICYMI
Posted by: olddog in mo at June 14, 2025 03:56 PM (BwZyW) 342
Dimona's been targeted before. There's always luck, but Israel heavily defends that facility. In any case doesn't change the situation. Iranian sites will be hammered until desired damage level is reached, most likely, they're essentially defenseless now. Will not be shocked if some interesting action a la the raid on the Syrian underground site is seen (well, not seen, at least right away).
Not the remotest chance of "global war". Iran was already very weak conventionally, and has no allies. Russia and China have never/never would/can't really lift a finger to defend them. Iran is just a $ proposition for Chy-nah, and actually the just a tool for Russian vandalism on the world scene (that's really Russia's only significance, for many years now), and an opportunistic toe-hold in an important region where they've not had much sway for decades. As for exile, hard to see where the Iranian scum might go. Doubt they'd be welcome in Moscow - where religious nutcase theocrats are not really viewed favorably. Qatar? That's the thing, reviewing possible exile destinations for the mullahs nicely outlines how isolated that regime is. Posted by: rhomboid at June 14, 2025 04:02 PM (1m82a) Processing 0.05, elapsed 0.0612 seconds. |
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