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Elon Musk: Trump "Betrayed" Me. He Wouldn't Have Gotten Elected Without Me.
I understand Musk's frustration. Musk put himself in a terrible business position -- pissing off his own progressive greeney customer base -- to ferret out all of the wasteful spending in government, only to see those efforts wasted. We're not seeing $2 trillion cut from the budget. We're not even seeing $200 billion, which was a number floated as well. Trump is asking for $9.4 billion in rescissions from the budget. Maybe this describes you as well -- I never know what to think in these situations. Is it really true that this is the best we can do? Are there just too many leftwing "Republicans" to ever pass meaningful budget cuts? If there are too many -- why don't we just go to war with them and turn them out of office? Why do we continue to allow Lisa Murkowski to command the entire party? On the other hand -- did Musk over-promise? Was his ultimate plan to reform entitlement spending, which Trump promised he would not do? No doubt, some things probably are "politically impossible." The problem is, the GOPe claims that everything actual conservatives want is "politically impossible," including stuff that is now proven to be very politically possible -- like closing the border without having to join with the Democrats on a Bipartisan Open Borders Amnesty bill. They lie about literally everything and claim everything we ask them to do simply cannot be done. This is a lie. They just don't want to do these things, because they're establishment liberals and always have been. So if someone says that $2 trillion in cuts is politically impossible, should I believe them? Why should I believe them, when they have lied remorselessly to me about literally everything else?
Anyway, this is a a messy public break-up and it's a shame that Trump and Musk are no longer a team.
"Look, Elon and I had a great relationship. I don't know if we will anymore," Trump told reporters in the Oval Office after Musk slammed his tax and spending mega-bill as an "abomination". The world's richest man responded by live-tweeting on his X social media platform as Trump spoke on television, saying that the Republican would not have won the 2024 election without him and slamming him for "ingratitude." In an extraordinary rant as visiting German Chancellor Friedrich Merz sat mutely beside him, 78-year-old Trump unloaded on SpaceX and Tesla boss Musk in his first comments on the issue. "I'm very disappointed, because Elon knew the inner workings of this bill better than almost anybody sitting here... All of a sudden, he had a problem," Trump said when asked about Musk. The clash comes less than a week since Trump held a grand Oval Office farewell for Musk as he wrapped up his time leading the cost-cutting Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE). South African-born Musk, 53, hit back minutes later, saying Trump's claims he had advance sight of the bill were "false." "Whatever," he added above a video of Trump saying Musk was upset about the loss of subsidies for electric vehicles. Musk then ratcheted up the public spat even further, saying the Republican would have lost the election without his support. He was the biggest donor to Trump's campaign, to the tune of nearly $300 million. "Without me, Trump would have lost the election," Musk said on X. "Such ingratitude." Tesla shares fell sharply on Wall Street, down eight percent, after his comments, in a sign of the huge stakes for a falling out between the world's richest man and its most powerful.
Trump, as a businessman, seemed a little off-balance in his first term. He expected that, as the National CEO, he could announce a policy and the "business" would enact that policy. In his second term, he's savvier about what a shitshow DC is. Maybe the problem is that Musk, being a neophyte -- being in the Trump 1.0 mindset -- just doesn't accept that the CEO has to make crappy deals with his stupid RINO middle-managers. I've also heard people say that Musk is angry that Trump isn't extending the Obama-era subsidies for EVs. (And if I had to make this call -- I'd extend those subsidies for ten years. Yes, I know, it's a garbage policy. But Musk has lost tens of billions of dollars due to his crusade. I'd give the guy a break. Yes, it's a political payoff. So what? Politics is mostly payoffs, and this one is well-earned.)
Musk has really crossed a line here -- Trump does not forgive anyone who doesn't say he won an election. I think Musk nuked their relationship by claiming credit for his win. And, by the way, I think he has a point: Musk did bring in a lot of "Gray Tribe" voters, voters who usually consider themselves "above" electoral politics and the Democrat/Republican dichotomy. And Musk brought in a lot of Silicon Valley billionaires and millionaires, too. But... I don't think he can say he won the election for Trump. And I know he can't say that and have any future relationship with Trump.
President Trump talks about Elon Musk.
— Paul A. Szypula 🇺🇸 (@Bubblebathgirl) June 5, 2025
The media will try to take what he said here and turn it into a big deal. It’s not.
I trust both Trump and Elon. I don’t think either men are the problem.
You want to know who the real problem is?
Congress.pic.twitter.com/SMjLSZWFlb
Elon Musk
@elonmusk 4m
"Balanced budget or bust!" - @LeaderJohnThune
Where is the John Thune of 2020?? https://t.co/EeRRSUjUIR
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) June 5, 2025
Where is the Mike Johnson of 2023!? https://t.co/wJaUuwUKQv
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) June 5, 2025
https://edition.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/0 Eek:
Is it time to create a new political party in America that actually represents the 80% in the middle?
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) June 5, 2025
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Sad
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 05, 2025 02:35 PM (N1tpc)
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A bit much Elon
Posted by: It's me donna at June 05, 2025 02:35 PM (VE6XX)
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It will be interesting to see how things turn out.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 05, 2025 02:35 PM (ExV1e)
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Trump and Musk need to be the ones having a meeting.
Posted by: Case at June 05, 2025 02:36 PM (a1g6Z)
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The looting has gone on too long to be able to stop it
Posted by: Skip at June 05, 2025 02:37 PM (+qU29)
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The first wave of DOGE staffers was supposed to be gone after 130 days. Instead, core members of the team have signed on for the long haul.
‘Big Balls’ Is Officially a Full-Time Government Employee
‘Big Balls’ Is Officially a Full-Time Government Employee
Posted by: SMOD at June 05, 2025 02:37 PM (RHGPo)
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This is a tough one. We're in the biggest war ever, the battle for our minds. However, both sides must either deceive us or leave us in the dark, lest the enemy (in our case, The Enemy) gain an advantage.
Tough to make judgements when you don't know what's really going on.
Tough to make judgements when you don't know what's really going on.
Posted by: t-bird at June 05, 2025 02:37 PM (yLThl)
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Musk is 100% right.
However, I'm not sure that what he's doing is going to fix the problems.
BUUUUUT, I also don't know if we can wait for another election to kick out the spaghetti back-boned GOPe- bankruptcy comes slowly and then all at once. Our government owes a LOT of money.
However, I'm not sure that what he's doing is going to fix the problems.
BUUUUUT, I also don't know if we can wait for another election to kick out the spaghetti back-boned GOPe- bankruptcy comes slowly and then all at once. Our government owes a LOT of money.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 05, 2025 02:38 PM (N1tpc)
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>>>‘Big Balls’ Is Officially a Full-Time Government Employee
We locked down Big Balls?!?! Sweet! I want to smell them!
We locked down Big Balls?!?! Sweet! I want to smell them!
Posted by: Don LeMon at June 05, 2025 02:38 PM (KRtlO)
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Elon wants a third party ? he should hook up with Mr. Hogg and the lesbian ex spokesperson Latrine...
Posted by: It's me donna at June 05, 2025 02:39 PM (VE6XX)
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I wonder what Elon will call the third party?
I wonder what Elon will call the third party?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 05, 2025 02:39 PM (H4vqY)
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Miller points out why reconciliation cant be used to implement DOGE cuts... H/T hot air
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 05, 2025 02:39 PM (o+C8N)
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Mom and Dad are fighting.
Posted by: Big Star at June 05, 2025 02:39 PM (Modkf)
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"Musk has really crossed a line here -- "
You ain't kidding. I suspect that Trump promised more than he he could get congress to deliver and that pi$$ed musk off. I mean he did bust his a$$ 24/7 for 120 days working for Trump.
This is going to get ugly and the left is going to lap it up and it may wind up costing Trump the house in the mid terms.
You ain't kidding. I suspect that Trump promised more than he he could get congress to deliver and that pi$$ed musk off. I mean he did bust his a$$ 24/7 for 120 days working for Trump.
This is going to get ugly and the left is going to lap it up and it may wind up costing Trump the house in the mid terms.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 05, 2025 02:40 PM (e5NfL)
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>>>Miller points out why reconciliation cant be used to implement DOGE cuts... H/T hot air
yeah I heard that. But you can overrule the parliamentarian and do whatever you want. And I guess Thune has decided that "amity" with Democrats is, as usual, more important than the survival of the nation.
yeah I heard that. But you can overrule the parliamentarian and do whatever you want. And I guess Thune has decided that "amity" with Democrats is, as usual, more important than the survival of the nation.
Posted by: ace at June 05, 2025 02:40 PM (KRtlO)
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"Musk has really crossed a line here -- Trump does not forgive anyone who doesn't say he won an election. I think Musk nuked their relationship by claiming credit for his win."
They'll be friends again in a few weeks. This is two big dickswingers with big egos and big constituencies trying to show who has the bigger dick.
Although I blame them both, I blame Musk more because he drew first blood, by calling a bill that Trump is heavily pushing for an "abomination." I agree the BBB has big flaws, but come on now. What did Musk expect with this House and this Senate?
Plus, a lot of what Musk is complaining about might not be true, if you listen to Steven Smith.
They'll be friends again in a few weeks. This is two big dickswingers with big egos and big constituencies trying to show who has the bigger dick.
Although I blame them both, I blame Musk more because he drew first blood, by calling a bill that Trump is heavily pushing for an "abomination." I agree the BBB has big flaws, but come on now. What did Musk expect with this House and this Senate?
Plus, a lot of what Musk is complaining about might not be true, if you listen to Steven Smith.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 05, 2025 02:41 PM (iFTx/)
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I don't know who is right on this. Frankly I think both men are a bit loony at times.
Bothers me most that this is a waste of time and a distraction -- they both have much better things to do to make the world a better place besides sniping at each other.
Bothers me most that this is a waste of time and a distraction -- they both have much better things to do to make the world a better place besides sniping at each other.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at June 05, 2025 02:41 PM (yLYPJ)
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BUUUUUT, I also don't know if we can wait for another election to kick out the spaghetti back-boned GOPe- bankruptcy comes slowly and then all at once. Our government owes a LOT of money.
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Exactly. Its easy for politicians and 'splainers to say "we don't quite have the votes yet". But its not the votes we lack--its the conviction to something other than grift. IF "we" were to add 12 more of "our" guys to both the house and senate...I'm guessing nothing much would change. That's because the Rs are more attached to the grift than they are to representing "us".
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Exactly. Its easy for politicians and 'splainers to say "we don't quite have the votes yet". But its not the votes we lack--its the conviction to something other than grift. IF "we" were to add 12 more of "our" guys to both the house and senate...I'm guessing nothing much would change. That's because the Rs are more attached to the grift than they are to representing "us".
Posted by: Crusader at June 05, 2025 02:41 PM (TN0g+)
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This is going to get ugly and the left is going to lap it up and it may wind up costing Trump the house in the mid terms.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 05, 2025 02:40 PM (e5NfL)
Trump needs to curb his ego on this and say he will make no more comments on the subject.. Of course we all know he wont
This is going to get ugly and the left is going to lap it up and it may wind up costing Trump the house in the mid terms.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 05, 2025 02:40 PM (e5NfL)
Trump needs to curb his ego on this and say he will make no more comments on the subject.. Of course we all know he wont
Posted by: It's me donna at June 05, 2025 02:42 PM (VE6XX)
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From Ace:
"Musk has really crossed a line here -- Trump does not forgive anyone who doesn't say he won an election. I think Musk nuked their relationship by claiming credit for his win."
Um, yeah, I'd call that a red line.
"Musk has really crossed a line here -- Trump does not forgive anyone who doesn't say he won an election. I think Musk nuked their relationship by claiming credit for his win."
Um, yeah, I'd call that a red line.
Posted by: WisRich at June 05, 2025 02:42 PM (G0vdT)
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I wonder what Elon will call the third party?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 05, 2025 02:39 PM (H4vqY)
The Leave Me The F*&@ Alone Party?
The Get Out of My Way Party?
The Drop Dead Fed Party?
There are sooo many possibilities.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 05, 2025 02:39 PM (H4vqY)
The Leave Me The F*&@ Alone Party?
The Get Out of My Way Party?
The Drop Dead Fed Party?
There are sooo many possibilities.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 05, 2025 02:42 PM (VNX3d)
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Well, this public "blow up" between Elon Musk and Donald Trump might all be for show.
This might be something they are doing to put some distance (publicly) between them, so Musk and his companies (Specifically Tesla) regain some of their lost support from the Green Left (who are generally obsessive assholes, which I read all the time on LinkedIn).
I think it's all kind of made-up.
And the fact that there is small faction among Republicans that can't support more recisions is just more political Bullshit. They are weak and love their phoney-baloney jobs too much. The country is circling the drain financially, and it's "TOO HARD!".
This might be something they are doing to put some distance (publicly) between them, so Musk and his companies (Specifically Tesla) regain some of their lost support from the Green Left (who are generally obsessive assholes, which I read all the time on LinkedIn).
I think it's all kind of made-up.
And the fact that there is small faction among Republicans that can't support more recisions is just more political Bullshit. They are weak and love their phoney-baloney jobs too much. The country is circling the drain financially, and it's "TOO HARD!".
Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at June 05, 2025 02:42 PM (vcOmj)
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The looting has gone on too long to be able to stop it
Posted by: Skip at June 05, 2025 02:37 PM (+qU29)
This is basically it.
As people here can attest, I don’t like Elon, but he’s right here. I think Trump is wrong, but he can be motivated to secure a better deal.
That’s one thing I like about Trump. He actually listens to us. He’s not always the best at details, but if he senses his base is upset he doesn’t sneer and belittle us like the GOPe, he actually changes course and fights.
Posted by: Skip at June 05, 2025 02:37 PM (+qU29)
This is basically it.
As people here can attest, I don’t like Elon, but he’s right here. I think Trump is wrong, but he can be motivated to secure a better deal.
That’s one thing I like about Trump. He actually listens to us. He’s not always the best at details, but if he senses his base is upset he doesn’t sneer and belittle us like the GOPe, he actually changes course and fights.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at June 05, 2025 02:42 PM (l3YAf)
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I hate messy breakups.
Posted by: WisRich at June 05, 2025 02:42 PM (G0vdT)
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13 Mom and Dad are fighting.
Posted by: Big Star at June 05, 2025 02:39 PM (Modkf)
I wish they'd kiss and make up.
Posted by: Big Star at June 05, 2025 02:39 PM (Modkf)
I wish they'd kiss and make up.
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 05, 2025 02:43 PM (IFJVl)
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Best thing PDJT can do right now is to be gracious, let Elon rant, and move on.
Elon, if you think this is easy, if you think you can do better just by force of will, please run for Gov. of California and fix it. I think you will be in for a rude awakening.
Essentially PDJT is fighting the entire Democrat party and at least half of the GOP.
Elon, if you think this is easy, if you think you can do better just by force of will, please run for Gov. of California and fix it. I think you will be in for a rude awakening.
Essentially PDJT is fighting the entire Democrat party and at least half of the GOP.
Posted by: stuckInCalifornia at June 05, 2025 02:43 PM (GMcZ6)
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Shooting ourselves in the foot is not the solution we need :-(
Posted by: Caf at June 05, 2025 02:43 PM (/+mVZ)
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In my estimation, about a 1/3 of the "budget" is direct graft and corruption, hell we've been carrying 800B from the Recovery and Reinvestment act of 2009 every year.
As someone said, the system isn't corrupt, corruption is the system.
As someone said, the system isn't corrupt, corruption is the system.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 05, 2025 02:44 PM (XV/Pl)
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The assassin's bullet in Butler, PA was a bigger factor in Trump winning than Elon's involvement.
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at June 05, 2025 02:44 PM (sfpgX)
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21 I wonder what Elon will call the third party?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 05, 2025 02:39 PM (H4vqY)
The Leave Me The F*&@ Alone Party?
The Get Out of My Way Party?
The Drop Dead Fed Party?
There are sooo many possibilities.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 05, 2025 02:42 PM (VNX3d)
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You missed the most obvious: The DOGE Party.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 05, 2025 02:39 PM (H4vqY)
The Leave Me The F*&@ Alone Party?
The Get Out of My Way Party?
The Drop Dead Fed Party?
There are sooo many possibilities.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 05, 2025 02:42 PM (VNX3d)
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You missed the most obvious: The DOGE Party.
Posted by: WisRich at June 05, 2025 02:44 PM (G0vdT)
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The equivalent of internet drama. Ignore it and keep calling your CongressTurkeys to stop taking vacation.
Mike Johnson just called off Friday's workday after 12 days of vacation last week. That fucker should be the focus of our ire.
Mike Johnson just called off Friday's workday after 12 days of vacation last week. That fucker should be the focus of our ire.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 05, 2025 02:44 PM (mlg/3)
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But Musk has lost tens of billions of dollars due to his crusade. I'd give the guy a break.
*******
Oh yeah. I feel his pain.
*******
Oh yeah. I feel his pain.
Posted by: muldoon at June 05, 2025 02:44 PM (/iMjX)
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yeah I heard that. But you can overrule the parliamentarian and do whatever you want. And I guess Thune has decided that "amity" with Democrats is, as usual, more important than the survival of the nation.
Posted by: ace at June 05, 2025 02:40 PM (KRtlO)
At the same time, the rescission bills only require 50 votes in the Senate so going this way doesn't actually prevent further cutting. The venal nature of Congress may prevent further cutting but doing the reconciliation as they are won't.
Posted by: ace at June 05, 2025 02:40 PM (KRtlO)
At the same time, the rescission bills only require 50 votes in the Senate so going this way doesn't actually prevent further cutting. The venal nature of Congress may prevent further cutting but doing the reconciliation as they are won't.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 05, 2025 02:44 PM (ExV1e)
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iSPACE - Hakuto-R - MR-2 - Lunar Landing Mare Frigoris
https://www.youtube.com/live/CJzo8Dd62o4
Talking heads now. Lading estimated in about 30+ minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/live/CJzo8Dd62o4
Talking heads now. Lading estimated in about 30+ minutes.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 05, 2025 02:45 PM (VNX3d)
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This is going to get ugly and the left is going to lap it up and it may wind up costing Trump the house in the mid terms.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 05, 2025 02:40 PM (e5NfL)
It may cost the House or Senate...or may win them both.
I'm expecting a pivot from Trump once the bill is done. He's gonna full-on embrace 1990's D ideals (not the policies actually enacted, but the ideals) - healthy and strong America for Americans (so RFK's work, the immigration work, and the huge plus up to defense work). He's making a play for the white woman while keeping the jobs for the non-college man...and hoping that's enough...
He knew he couldn't make Elon happy in the bill, so he brought in the South African refugees...that apparently was deemed to little by Elon to save the relationship b/c Elon was and has always been made the fall guy for significant budget cuts not happening (that said, just seeing a budget not do much raising is unfortunately a huge win for our side)...and I think he just realized that...
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 05, 2025 02:40 PM (e5NfL)
It may cost the House or Senate...or may win them both.
I'm expecting a pivot from Trump once the bill is done. He's gonna full-on embrace 1990's D ideals (not the policies actually enacted, but the ideals) - healthy and strong America for Americans (so RFK's work, the immigration work, and the huge plus up to defense work). He's making a play for the white woman while keeping the jobs for the non-college man...and hoping that's enough...
He knew he couldn't make Elon happy in the bill, so he brought in the South African refugees...that apparently was deemed to little by Elon to save the relationship b/c Elon was and has always been made the fall guy for significant budget cuts not happening (that said, just seeing a budget not do much raising is unfortunately a huge win for our side)...and I think he just realized that...
Posted by: Nova Local at June 05, 2025 02:45 PM (tOcjL)
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Where does Thomas Massie go for his apology?
If the House had listened to him and refused to pass that fucked up massive spending boondoggle and gone to what was promised 2 years ago (regular order)...
this would not be happening.
We should have gone to war 6 months ago and forced through line item bills and then dare the senate to refuse to pass them.
If the House had listened to him and refused to pass that fucked up massive spending boondoggle and gone to what was promised 2 years ago (regular order)...
this would not be happening.
We should have gone to war 6 months ago and forced through line item bills and then dare the senate to refuse to pass them.
Posted by: ghbucky at June 05, 2025 02:45 PM (/xDbx)
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I think the EV mandate stuff is bull.
Musk has been vocal about Tesla not needing them, and he sees them as helping Tesla a little but helping competition a lot. (Actually, they hurt Tesla as most of their vig is in the CAFE mandates which necessitate ICE companies to buy credits from EV companies.)
It sounds like bull the reddit kids come up with to try to explain someone they hate having principles -- they have to find a financial motive even when none exists.
Musk has been vocal about Tesla not needing them, and he sees them as helping Tesla a little but helping competition a lot. (Actually, they hurt Tesla as most of their vig is in the CAFE mandates which necessitate ICE companies to buy credits from EV companies.)
It sounds like bull the reddit kids come up with to try to explain someone they hate having principles -- they have to find a financial motive even when none exists.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at June 05, 2025 02:45 PM (yLYPJ)
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>> yeah I heard that. But you can overrule the parliamentarian and do whatever you want. And I guess Thune has decided that "amity" with Democrats is, as usual, more important than the survival of the nation.
When Democrats have a razor-thin majority, we have to do what they want, because we’re in the minority.
When we have a razor-thin majority, we have to do what the Democrats want because we don’t have the votes.
When Democrats have a razor-thin majority, we have to do what they want, because we’re in the minority.
When we have a razor-thin majority, we have to do what the Democrats want because we don’t have the votes.
Posted by: Congressional GOP at June 05, 2025 02:45 PM (l3YAf)
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Good. Hopefully the congress will keep spending until they go bust. Watch all the grifters, moochers and looters eat each other raw. I am at that age where I will not live to see it but fuck all of them anyways.
You Maniacs! You blew it up! Ah, damn you! God damn you all to hell!
You Maniacs! You blew it up! Ah, damn you! God damn you all to hell!
Posted by: Old Fart Boomer at June 05, 2025 02:46 PM (PxmHT)
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"Our government owes a LOT of money."
Yes it does. Thank you congress! You have outdone yourselves. You all deserve a rest, a permanent rest.
Yes it does. Thank you congress! You have outdone yourselves. You all deserve a rest, a permanent rest.
Posted by: Case at June 05, 2025 02:46 PM (a1g6Z)
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>>>Musk has been vocal about Tesla not needing them, and he sees them as helping Tesla a little but helping competition a lot. (Actually, they hurt Tesla as most of their vig is in the CAFE mandates which necessitate ICE companies to buy credits from EV companies.)
yeah, that comports with my own impression that Musk didn't care about the subsidies much.
yeah, that comports with my own impression that Musk didn't care about the subsidies much.
Posted by: ace at June 05, 2025 02:46 PM (KRtlO)
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Miller and Bessent and Lutnik are doing their best to get the message out - that the BBB is the first of many steps. But we need more assurances. Musk and DOGE was the radical move we wanted. The people are ready for swift and sweeping changes, but there are too many other personalities (Paul, Massey, now Musk). It's OK if all this comes to a head -- we just need a clear pathway and the commitment ... because we cannot come back from this if we go over that cliff.
And on the horizon is the aftermath of 4 years of wide-open borders and rampant trafficking immigrants into our country (after having decades of illegals having already moved in). Victor Davis Hanson already says there's no way we can undo the damage.
And on the horizon is the aftermath of 4 years of wide-open borders and rampant trafficking immigrants into our country (after having decades of illegals having already moved in). Victor Davis Hanson already says there's no way we can undo the damage.
Posted by: Coki at June 05, 2025 02:46 PM (w+fUf)
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A gay spat? During pride month?
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 05, 2025 02:46 PM (iELXO)
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29 The assassin's bullet in Butler, PA was a bigger factor in Trump winning than Elon's involvement.
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at June 05, 2025 02:44 PM (sfpgX)
I think without Elon buying twitter we wouldn't be here.
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at June 05, 2025 02:44 PM (sfpgX)
I think without Elon buying twitter we wouldn't be here.
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 05, 2025 02:46 PM (IFJVl)
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31 The equivalent of internet drama. Ignore it and keep calling your CongressTurkeys to stop taking vacation.
Mike Johnson just called off Friday's workday after 12 days of vacation last week. That fucker should be the focus of our ire.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 05, 2025 02:44 PM (mlg/3)
Bill is in the Senate - what's he gonna do til it's not? Send the Senate more bills to sit on?
Mike Johnson just called off Friday's workday after 12 days of vacation last week. That fucker should be the focus of our ire.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 05, 2025 02:44 PM (mlg/3)
Bill is in the Senate - what's he gonna do til it's not? Send the Senate more bills to sit on?
Posted by: Nova Local at June 05, 2025 02:47 PM (tOcjL)
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Most cycles the people vote for smaller government, yet after every election the GOP says its not possible.
The problem is the GOP, and while we've made small improvements its not enough to actually make any changes.
And I'll say this again, the goal should NOT be general spending cuts. The goal should be zeroing out spending that mostly goes to leftwingers. Why? Because the GOP would pay no price for it and it would improve things dramatically.
The reason they don't do this? A significant portion of the GOP is still controlled opposition.
The problem is the GOP, and while we've made small improvements its not enough to actually make any changes.
And I'll say this again, the goal should NOT be general spending cuts. The goal should be zeroing out spending that mostly goes to leftwingers. Why? Because the GOP would pay no price for it and it would improve things dramatically.
The reason they don't do this? A significant portion of the GOP is still controlled opposition.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 05, 2025 02:47 PM (t0Rmr)
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I think without Elon buying twitter we wouldn't be here.
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 05, 2025 02:46 PM (IFJVl)
Two words.... Kamala Harris
I think without Elon buying twitter we wouldn't be here.
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 05, 2025 02:46 PM (IFJVl)
Two words.... Kamala Harris
Posted by: It's me donna at June 05, 2025 02:48 PM (VE6XX)
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Maybe Musk is LARPing to regain his previous leftist customers
Posted by: Avi at June 05, 2025 02:48 PM (cBCwV)
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Miller and Bessent and Lutnik are doing their best to get the message out - that the BBB is the first of many steps.
I'm just surprised that so many people are unclear of the details given the effort that the media makes to be completely accurate, straight-shooters.
I'm just surprised that so many people are unclear of the details given the effort that the media makes to be completely accurate, straight-shooters.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 05, 2025 02:49 PM (ExV1e)
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Republicans in Congress blow the dog. They have for a long time. The reason we don’t have deeper cuts is the House and a-holes like Mike Lawler and the SALT Caucus who think the answer to their confiscatory state taxes is to have the federal taxpayers subsidize them. Johnson should have grown a pair and told them to sit down and STFU. Then he could have sent Musk after them, made them public enemy #1. But instead we now have Trump and Musk, our greatest weapons, feuding with each other while the useless Congress once again sits on the sidelines eating crudités and jerking off.
The senate has said they’re cutting will seek deeper cuts but the Murkowski and Collins Wing say they don’t like cutting like the Medicaid fraud. We need to take these people down once at a time.
The senate has said they’re cutting will seek deeper cuts but the Murkowski and Collins Wing say they don’t like cutting like the Medicaid fraud. We need to take these people down once at a time.
Posted by: Vengeance at June 05, 2025 02:49 PM (YCGTW)
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PDTS just needs to lay out the facts. We're running an unsustainable, growing deficit because congress hasn't passed a budget for about 20 years now.
It's time to make some hard choices, beginning with declaring a fiscal emergency and making some command decisions on where expenditures will be frozen and which agencies will be dissolved.
And turn the auditors loose. Forensic audits and charges for malfeasance.
It's time to make some hard choices, beginning with declaring a fiscal emergency and making some command decisions on where expenditures will be frozen and which agencies will be dissolved.
And turn the auditors loose. Forensic audits and charges for malfeasance.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 05, 2025 02:49 PM (3Ope8)
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As has been noted, The GOP has been in control of the power of the purse for 24 of the last 32 years.
They are useless piles of dog shit.
They are useless piles of dog shit.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 05, 2025 02:49 PM (XV/Pl)
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I think without Elon buying twitter we wouldn't be here.
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 05, 2025 02:46 PM (IFJVl)
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Elon said, rightly so, that if the Dem's won, free speech would be gone and they would have destroyed him.
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 05, 2025 02:46 PM (IFJVl)
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Elon said, rightly so, that if the Dem's won, free speech would be gone and they would have destroyed him.
Posted by: WisRich at June 05, 2025 02:49 PM (G0vdT)
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When we have a razor-thin majority, we have to do what the Democrats want because we don’t have the votes.
Posted by: Congressional GOP at June 05, 2025 02:45 PM (l3YAf)
And remember the GOP has a thin majority in the Senate because they allowed the Dems to openly steal 4 seats.
Imagine what the Senate would look like with Lake and co instead of Slotkin and co
Posted by: Congressional GOP at June 05, 2025 02:45 PM (l3YAf)
And remember the GOP has a thin majority in the Senate because they allowed the Dems to openly steal 4 seats.
Imagine what the Senate would look like with Lake and co instead of Slotkin and co
Posted by: 18-1 at June 05, 2025 02:49 PM (t0Rmr)
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I’m with Elon on this one.
Trump would not have won without him. And Elon deserves better. Those kids who worked and are still working with DOGE deserve better too.
Trump would not have won without him. And Elon deserves better. Those kids who worked and are still working with DOGE deserve better too.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 05, 2025 02:49 PM (nwZ1c)
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>>>48 Maybe Musk is LARPing to regain his previous leftist customers
I thought of that too but... eh, I think the most likely explanation is the obvious one, he joined the administration as True Believer Crusader and is very disappointed, wondering, I gave up billions of dollars of my own net worth to save $9.4 billion? I could have just GIVEN the US $9.4 billion and come out ahead of the game!
I thought of that too but... eh, I think the most likely explanation is the obvious one, he joined the administration as True Believer Crusader and is very disappointed, wondering, I gave up billions of dollars of my own net worth to save $9.4 billion? I could have just GIVEN the US $9.4 billion and come out ahead of the game!
Posted by: ace at June 05, 2025 02:49 PM (KRtlO)
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And if I am elected
I promise the formation of a new party
A third party, the Wild Party!
I know we have problems
We got problems right here in Central City
We have problems on the North
South, East and West
New York City, Saint Louis, Philadelphia
Los Angeles, Detroit, Chicago
Everybody has problems
And personally, I don't care
And if I am elected
I promise the formation of a new party
A third party, the Wild Party!
I know we have problems
We got problems right here in Central City
We have problems on the North
South, East and West
New York City, Saint Louis, Philadelphia
Los Angeles, Detroit, Chicago
Everybody has problems
And personally, I don't care
Posted by: A. Cooper at June 05, 2025 02:49 PM (63Dwl)
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At the same time, the rescission bills only require 50 votes in the Senate so going this way doesn't actually prevent further cutting. The venal nature of Congress may prevent further cutting but doing the reconciliation as they are won't.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 05, 2025 02:44 PM (ExV1e)
If we had 50 votes in the Senate to do serious spending cuts we wouldn’t need to resort to gimmicks like rescissions.
The rescissions are a “We’ll gladly cut next Tuesday if you just let us pass a massive omnibus spending bill today.” Same scam the GOP has been running for decades.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 05, 2025 02:44 PM (ExV1e)
If we had 50 votes in the Senate to do serious spending cuts we wouldn’t need to resort to gimmicks like rescissions.
The rescissions are a “We’ll gladly cut next Tuesday if you just let us pass a massive omnibus spending bill today.” Same scam the GOP has been running for decades.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at June 05, 2025 02:50 PM (l3YAf)
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In the past Musk has said cutting EV perks was OK, he said he thought all EV perks should be cut. If memory serves.
As far as the spat it's a good thing they didn't have swords.
On a practical level Musk wants those govt contracts and
whoever is launching those sats from Vandenberg wants Musk.
And that' just the tip of it.
Later, they'll go to the gym, spar a few rounds and work it out.
As far as the spat it's a good thing they didn't have swords.
On a practical level Musk wants those govt contracts and
whoever is launching those sats from Vandenberg wants Musk.
And that' just the tip of it.
Later, they'll go to the gym, spar a few rounds and work it out.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 05, 2025 02:50 PM (vWeTL)
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The libtards that have been arrested for vandalizing Tesla dealerships and vehicles must be feeling mighty conflicted right about now...
Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 05, 2025 02:50 PM (I8RRu)
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Elon's pretty much right about the spending. There's no point getting the government mildly off our backs for a Presidential term (and who knows after that), if we merrily implode the currency through inflation.
The thing is, Trump's lack of interest in dealing with the national debt has been obvious for a long time, and if you watched interviews last year, it took Elon leaning on the issue to get him to even acknowledge it. The fact that BBB raised the debt ceiling shows he's not serious about addressing it, since you can't pay your way out of debt by more borrowing. He's still stuck on the foolish thinking that you can somehow keep debt "manageable."
The thing is, Trump's lack of interest in dealing with the national debt has been obvious for a long time, and if you watched interviews last year, it took Elon leaning on the issue to get him to even acknowledge it. The fact that BBB raised the debt ceiling shows he's not serious about addressing it, since you can't pay your way out of debt by more borrowing. He's still stuck on the foolish thinking that you can somehow keep debt "manageable."
Posted by: Methos at June 05, 2025 02:50 PM (Dnobf)
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I think without Elon buying twitter we wouldn't be here.
Posted by: CaliGirl
This is true.
All the same, he does not get credit for the win. Discretion Is the better part of valor.
Posted by: CaliGirl
This is true.
All the same, he does not get credit for the win. Discretion Is the better part of valor.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at June 05, 2025 02:51 PM (yLYPJ)
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I didn’t mind Musk going after them about the cuts not being deep enough. Congress was squirming and talking about doing more in reconciliation. But once Musk nut punched Trump personally, that was a bridge too far. So unnecessary. .
Posted by: Vengeance at June 05, 2025 02:52 PM (YCGTW)
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The best thing that Trump can do is start putting Russ Vought out front more to explain that this is just the beginning of the process of cuts not the final product. He's been doing it in small interviews for some time but it never seems to break through to the wider audience.
What I find hard to believe is that Musk doesn't know this. He can say whatever he wants but he was buried up to his eyeballs in this for months.
What I find hard to believe is that Musk doesn't know this. He can say whatever he wants but he was buried up to his eyeballs in this for months.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 05, 2025 02:52 PM (viF8m)
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PDTS just needs to lay out the facts. We're running an unsustainable, growing deficit because congress hasn't passed a budget for about 20 years now.
It's time to make some hard choices, beginning with declaring a fiscal emergency and making some command decisions on where expenditures will be frozen and which agencies will be dissolved.
And turn the auditors loose. Forensic audits and charges for malfeasance.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 05, 2025 02:49 PM (3Ope
Sic the auditors on Congresscritters, their offices, and their staffs. Congress will either get in line, or quickly try to close down as much of the government as possible to protect themselves.
It's time to make some hard choices, beginning with declaring a fiscal emergency and making some command decisions on where expenditures will be frozen and which agencies will be dissolved.
And turn the auditors loose. Forensic audits and charges for malfeasance.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 05, 2025 02:49 PM (3Ope
Sic the auditors on Congresscritters, their offices, and their staffs. Congress will either get in line, or quickly try to close down as much of the government as possible to protect themselves.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 05, 2025 02:52 PM (VNX3d)
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Is Elon Musk going to have another fit when he finds out that the "80% in the middle" has no interest in cutting spending?
Posted by: Mark1971 at June 05, 2025 02:52 PM (Vj4xA)
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62 I think without Elon buying twitter we wouldn't be here.
Posted by: CaliGirl
This is true.
All the same, he does not get credit for the win. Discretion Is the better part of valor.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at June 05, 2025 02:51 PM (yLYPJ)
And Elon got a personal win...if Trump lost, Elon would be penniless and in prison for life. So, he had a little bit of vested interest in making sure he supported the side that kept him free and wealthy. It wasn't all self-less...in fact, the election part wasn't even partly self-less...
Posted by: CaliGirl
This is true.
All the same, he does not get credit for the win. Discretion Is the better part of valor.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at June 05, 2025 02:51 PM (yLYPJ)
And Elon got a personal win...if Trump lost, Elon would be penniless and in prison for life. So, he had a little bit of vested interest in making sure he supported the side that kept him free and wealthy. It wasn't all self-less...in fact, the election part wasn't even partly self-less...
Posted by: Nova Local at June 05, 2025 02:53 PM (tOcjL)
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F*** everyone and everything. But Thom Tillis especially. I do get to vote against him.
Posted by: Eeyore at June 05, 2025 02:53 PM (od0dV)
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62 I think without Elon buying twitter we wouldn't be here.
Posted by: CaliGirl
He bought Twitter because of free speech... he was particularly mad that Twitter banned the Babylon Bee... he came on board with Trump later down the line
Posted by: CaliGirl
He bought Twitter because of free speech... he was particularly mad that Twitter banned the Babylon Bee... he came on board with Trump later down the line
Posted by: It's me donna at June 05, 2025 02:53 PM (VE6XX)
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Posted by: Ciampino - any pain is bad at June 05, 2025 02:53 PM (sPQoU)
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So if Trump has to spend the moneys allocated to the various executive depts but he has discretion in how it is done could he spend most of their budgets on buying government debt? Would be an interesting way to reduce spending without needing congress to reduce spending.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 05, 2025 02:54 PM (t0Rmr)
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I think without Elon buying twitter we wouldn't be here.
Posted by: CaliGirl
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I'll admit his purchase of that helped turn a negative aspect of commentary on Trump to something more even.
But, the video and images from Butler are still the biggest factor in Trump's election, IMHO.
Posted by: CaliGirl
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I'll admit his purchase of that helped turn a negative aspect of commentary on Trump to something more even.
But, the video and images from Butler are still the biggest factor in Trump's election, IMHO.
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at June 05, 2025 02:54 PM (sfpgX)
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Not saying it is 4d chess but maybe just maybe they want Elon Musk playing bad cop from the outside .
Posted by: steevy at June 05, 2025 02:54 PM (YwEeS)
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All the same, he does not get credit for the win. Discretion Is the better part of valor.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at June 05, 2025 02:51 PM (yLYPJ)
I also agree that he doesn't get credit for the win. Both things are true.
All the same, he does not get credit for the win. Discretion Is the better part of valor.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at June 05, 2025 02:51 PM (yLYPJ)
I also agree that he doesn't get credit for the win. Both things are true.
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 05, 2025 02:54 PM (IFJVl)
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You tell 'em I'm coming and Hell's coming with me!
Benny Johnson@bennyjohnson
Deputy FBI Director Dan Bongino sends a scathing message to the Deep State:
“If you are a corrupt politician.. we're going to find you.”
“I don't have any friends. I don't want any friends. I didn't come here for money.”
“If you're want a friend in D.C. get a dog. We're coming for you.”
Benny Johnson@bennyjohnson
Deputy FBI Director Dan Bongino sends a scathing message to the Deep State:
“If you are a corrupt politician.. we're going to find you.”
“I don't have any friends. I don't want any friends. I didn't come here for money.”
“If you're want a friend in D.C. get a dog. We're coming for you.”
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not at June 05, 2025 02:54 PM (L/fGl)
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I think we all knew Elon was mercurial and Trump demands total loyalty so this was always headed in a rough direction.
Ace is being more than fair to Trump. Too fair?? 😂
Though to be honest it hasn't even gotten mean between Trump and Elon.. yet. Trump is basically on Level 1 on the VDH Cruel-o-meter. He has like 10 public levels and a few more we've probably never seen yet. He's just petting Elon at this point. And Elon isn't saying anything that awful either. All fluffy handbags so far.
Ace is being more than fair to Trump. Too fair?? 😂
Though to be honest it hasn't even gotten mean between Trump and Elon.. yet. Trump is basically on Level 1 on the VDH Cruel-o-meter. He has like 10 public levels and a few more we've probably never seen yet. He's just petting Elon at this point. And Elon isn't saying anything that awful either. All fluffy handbags so far.
Posted by: ... at June 05, 2025 02:55 PM (b6zgo)
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Elon, whether exact or not, was right. However he should have held his tongue. But that's not either of these guy's way.
The Japanese are busy making a SciFi movie based on the election and this rift between Musk and Trump.
The Japanese are busy making a SciFi movie based on the election and this rift between Musk and Trump.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 05, 2025 02:55 PM (vWeTL)
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So Trump is such a dealmaker and he couldn't fix this, probably the most important one he could make?
Posted by: Ciampino - breakup pain is bad at June 05, 2025 02:55 PM (sPQoU)
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It's obvious what to think. It's been obvious all along: Trump and Musk are both buffoons who have no idea what they're doing. As a committed and regret-free "bull in a china shop" voter, I never expected anything from this administration other than a lot of broken dishes and a big pile of bull shit.
This was never going to turn out any other way, and y'all Trump Messiah cultists need to come back to reality while you still can.
This was never going to turn out any other way, and y'all Trump Messiah cultists need to come back to reality while you still can.
Posted by: Lucia Pacciola at June 05, 2025 02:55 PM (jY8zQ)
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Is Elon Musk going to have another fit when he finds out that the "80% in the middle" has no interest in cutting spending?
No one wants "their" spending cut. Fine, start with zeroing out the spending that goes to the left. They aren't voting for you anyway so there is no cost to GOP office holders.
No one wants "their" spending cut. Fine, start with zeroing out the spending that goes to the left. They aren't voting for you anyway so there is no cost to GOP office holders.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 05, 2025 02:55 PM (t0Rmr)
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I am going to say it again. This is juvenile to play out in the way it is. This bill is not amazing. It probably is the best we can do in this climate, because we do not have 60 votes. We will never get the bill Maisie says he wants through. It’s reality. Musk and Trump need to get on the phone instead of shooting arrows at each other and trading barbs over x. I will never say Trump shouldn’t be criticized. He has flaws for sure, but all we are doing right now is removing focus on where attention should be.
Posted by: Piper at June 05, 2025 02:55 PM (pZEOD)
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Our government owes a LOT of money.
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Posted by: Crusader
WE are our government.
Our children and grand children have been sold into "bond"age...
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Posted by: Crusader
WE are our government.
Our children and grand children have been sold into "bond"age...
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 05, 2025 02:55 PM (o+C8N)
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Elon is not one to give up, though.
According to one bio, when he is burned, he will go to incredible lengths the secure success and face off those who did him dirty.
He and Trump are very similar in that respect -- and both can stand the heat because they create the heat. They create the conflict necessary to get to a better place -- better design, better outcomes.
Just read the bios and you'll see the overlap.
Elon is harder though, had an abusive dad. Whereas Tump's dad was a guide in his life.
According to one bio, when he is burned, he will go to incredible lengths the secure success and face off those who did him dirty.
He and Trump are very similar in that respect -- and both can stand the heat because they create the heat. They create the conflict necessary to get to a better place -- better design, better outcomes.
Just read the bios and you'll see the overlap.
Elon is harder though, had an abusive dad. Whereas Tump's dad was a guide in his life.
Posted by: Coki at June 05, 2025 02:55 PM (w+fUf)
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LOL here come the trolls
Posted by: steevy at June 05, 2025 02:55 PM (YwEeS)
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This is how it goes with Trump. The vast majority of people that work with him can't stand the guy within two years.
Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 05, 2025 02:56 PM (jQTUu)
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published Jun 3
A million seconds ago was May 23rd
A billion seconds ago was 1993
A trillion seconds ago was 30,000 B.C.
The US national debt is now rising by $1 Trillion every 180 days.
A million seconds ago was May 23rd
A billion seconds ago was 1993
A trillion seconds ago was 30,000 B.C.
The US national debt is now rising by $1 Trillion every 180 days.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 05, 2025 02:56 PM (vWeTL)
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Deputy FBI Director Dan Bongino sends a scathing message to the Deep State
All I heard was blah, blah, blah...
All I heard was blah, blah, blah...
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 05, 2025 02:56 PM (3Ope8)
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Democrats managed to pass Obamacare, even though it was so unpopular that Mass. elected a Republican Senator to stop them.
Posted by: 29Victor at June 05, 2025 02:56 PM (j6Ika)
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If we had 50 votes in the Senate to do serious spending cuts we wouldn’t need to resort to gimmicks like rescissions.
The rescissions are a “We’ll gladly cut next Tuesday if you just let us pass a massive omnibus spending bill today.” Same scam the GOP has been running for decades.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at June 05, 2025 02:50 PM (l3YAf)
There's been numerous comments explaining what the deal is. There have been several links to articles explaining what the deal is. The people who're going to bitch are going to bitch.
Will the GOP come through this time? Probably not. They'll find some reason to pretend that they're fucking over the country for the noblest of reasons but they haven't done it yet.
The rescissions are a “We’ll gladly cut next Tuesday if you just let us pass a massive omnibus spending bill today.” Same scam the GOP has been running for decades.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at June 05, 2025 02:50 PM (l3YAf)
There's been numerous comments explaining what the deal is. There have been several links to articles explaining what the deal is. The people who're going to bitch are going to bitch.
Will the GOP come through this time? Probably not. They'll find some reason to pretend that they're fucking over the country for the noblest of reasons but they haven't done it yet.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 05, 2025 02:56 PM (ExV1e)
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>>>68 F*** everyone and everything. But Thom Tillis especially. I do get to vote against him.
Vote early and often.
Vote early and often.
Posted by: ace at June 05, 2025 02:56 PM (KRtlO)
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Deputy FBI Director Dan Bongino sends a scathing message to the Deep State:
“If you are a corrupt politician.. we're going to find you.”
Shouldn't he be saying things like this only after he's arrested at least one congresscriminal?
“If you are a corrupt politician.. we're going to find you.”
Shouldn't he be saying things like this only after he's arrested at least one congresscriminal?
Posted by: 18-1 at June 05, 2025 02:56 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: garrett at June 05, 2025 02:56 PM (hJb7m)
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73 Not saying it is 4d chess but maybe just maybe they want Elon Musk playing bad cop from the outside .
Posted by: steevy at June 05, 2025
No, this is 2 strong willed, big egos colliding.
Posted by: steevy at June 05, 2025
No, this is 2 strong willed, big egos colliding.
Posted by: Piper at June 05, 2025 02:57 PM (pZEOD)
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Stop talking, Bongino.
Start arresting.
Start arresting.
Posted by: I mean, geez at June 05, 2025 02:57 PM (hpQri)
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Fuck all those that are stopping the momentum this administration has because they don't agree with the man we elected. I don't agree with him entirely on this budget bill either but I understand what Trump's trying to do.
I expect this from the Left . I guess Musk really is a leftist at heart . Musk and the others know this opposition will destroy everything accomplished so far but they don't care .
I expect this from the Left . I guess Musk really is a leftist at heart . Musk and the others know this opposition will destroy everything accomplished so far but they don't care .
Posted by: polynikes at June 05, 2025 02:57 PM (VofaG)
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When Elon goes to Mars and names himself Grand Shah Potentate King El Presidente wearer of funny hats!
I hope Elon doesn't create giant robots to invade and destroy earth like in War of the Worlds.
I hope Elon doesn't create giant robots to invade and destroy earth like in War of the Worlds.
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 05, 2025 02:57 PM (wxO3z)
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The rescissions are a “We’ll gladly cut next Tuesday if you just let us pass a massive omnibus spending bill today.” Same scam the GOP has been running for decades.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at June 05, 2025 02:50 PM (l3YAf)
I don't recall previous administrations discussing rescissions as any kind of option. Trump has earned enough credibility with me, so I'm hoping his BBB passes. If it fails we're back to our circular firing squads and the country keeps circling the drain...
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at June 05, 2025 02:50 PM (l3YAf)
I don't recall previous administrations discussing rescissions as any kind of option. Trump has earned enough credibility with me, so I'm hoping his BBB passes. If it fails we're back to our circular firing squads and the country keeps circling the drain...
Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 05, 2025 02:57 PM (I8RRu)
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>>A million seconds ago was May 23rd
A billion seconds ago was 1993
A trillion seconds ago was 30,000 B.C.
This was featured on the Lotus Eaters Podcast, yesterday.
A billion seconds ago was 1993
A trillion seconds ago was 30,000 B.C.
This was featured on the Lotus Eaters Podcast, yesterday.
Posted by: garrett at June 05, 2025 02:58 PM (hJb7m)
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I'll wait and see before passing judgment. It was obvious that Trump had a plan coming into office this time and Musk was a part of it. Did the plan really culminate with we ID all these cuts and then ... nothing? For all we know, this is scripted to provide cover for something else they are really going to do, but need to no longer be seen as working together in order to pull it off. I'm not yet ready to weigh in on one side or the other.
Posted by: DPICM at June 05, 2025 02:58 PM (M2VUX)
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92 I have no problem with Elon being a hardliner on Spending Cuts.
None.
Posted by: garrett at June 05, 2025 02:56 PM (hJb7m)
Me either but he shouldn't have made it personal .
None.
Posted by: garrett at June 05, 2025 02:56 PM (hJb7m)
Me either but he shouldn't have made it personal .
Posted by: It's me donna at June 05, 2025 02:58 PM (VE6XX)
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Judge Determines Trump Will Get The Nation On Weekdays, While Musk Gets Every Other Weekend And Holidays
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From the Bee.
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From the Bee.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not at June 05, 2025 02:58 PM (L/fGl)
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Trump thinks this is the best we can do right now, Musk thinks we can and should do more.
Its that simple. Now, one of them is right and one isn't. But, let's not make this total dramarama...
Its that simple. Now, one of them is right and one isn't. But, let's not make this total dramarama...
Posted by: 18-1 at June 05, 2025 02:58 PM (t0Rmr)
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In the end there is only Kratos.
Posted by: Chaos at June 05, 2025 02:58 PM (jc0TO)
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When does President Boasberg get the Nation?
Posted by: I gotta ask at June 05, 2025 02:59 PM (hpQri)
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75
Benny Johnson@bennyjohnson
Deputy FBI Director Dan Bongino sends a scathing message to the Deep State:
“If you are a corrupt politician.. we're going to find you.”
“I don't have any friends. I don't want any friends. I didn't come here for money.”
“If you're want a friend in D.C. get a dog. We're coming for you.”
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not at June 05, 2025 02:54 PM (L/fGl)
I hope he is the pitbull he portrays himself to be here. But the problem is so much bigger than what he can tackle on his own. Go scorched earth, then salt it. But I fear we are too far gone and the deep state is standing there going "neener neener needer".
Benny Johnson@bennyjohnson
Deputy FBI Director Dan Bongino sends a scathing message to the Deep State:
“If you are a corrupt politician.. we're going to find you.”
“I don't have any friends. I don't want any friends. I didn't come here for money.”
“If you're want a friend in D.C. get a dog. We're coming for you.”
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not at June 05, 2025 02:54 PM (L/fGl)
I hope he is the pitbull he portrays himself to be here. But the problem is so much bigger than what he can tackle on his own. Go scorched earth, then salt it. But I fear we are too far gone and the deep state is standing there going "neener neener needer".
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 05, 2025 02:59 PM (N39Ws)
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"29 The assassin's bullet in Butler, PA was a bigger factor in Trump winning than Elon's involvement."
Bingo!
Bingo!
Posted by: caf at June 05, 2025 02:59 PM (/+mVZ)
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Benny Johnson@bennyjohnson
Deputy FBI Director Dan Bongino sends a scathing message to the Deep State:
“If you are a corrupt politician.. we're going to find you.”
“I don't have any friends. I don't want any friends. I didn't come here for money.”
“If you're want a friend in D.C. get a dog. We're coming for you.”
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Unless you were involved in silencing Epstein. In that case, don't worry, you're good and safe.
Deputy FBI Director Dan Bongino sends a scathing message to the Deep State:
“If you are a corrupt politician.. we're going to find you.”
“I don't have any friends. I don't want any friends. I didn't come here for money.”
“If you're want a friend in D.C. get a dog. We're coming for you.”
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Unless you were involved in silencing Epstein. In that case, don't worry, you're good and safe.
Posted by: Methos at June 05, 2025 02:59 PM (Dnobf)
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Musk has the luxury of not having to go through the political process to get what he wants re: DOGE cuts.
He did good work, but he wasn't elected. I really could care less if he's a bit miffed about not being able massively cut government. Welcome to the party pal.
I'll give Trump the benefit of doubt here, and Musk can go sulk in the comfort of his billions and baby mamas.
He did good work, but he wasn't elected. I really could care less if he's a bit miffed about not being able massively cut government. Welcome to the party pal.
I'll give Trump the benefit of doubt here, and Musk can go sulk in the comfort of his billions and baby mamas.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 05, 2025 02:59 PM (i24o9)
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have no problem with Elon being a hardliner on Spending Cuts.
None.
Posted by: garrett at June 05, 2025 02:56 PM (hJb7m)
If that's all it is but it's not. His opposition is more about Trump now .
None.
Posted by: garrett at June 05, 2025 02:56 PM (hJb7m)
If that's all it is but it's not. His opposition is more about Trump now .
Posted by: polynikes at June 05, 2025 02:59 PM (VofaG)
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People do not realize Trump?We need this BBB to institute Trumps aggressive agenda. Next proposal should be much less spending. I consider this a true investment in saving this country....
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 05, 2025 02:59 PM (wxO3z)
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I prefer talking about the debt in terms of how much each citizen owes. Gets people to ask what did I get for my $140K?!?
And the answer is "you got nothing outside of Bidenflation but the insiders got generational wealth"
And the answer is "you got nothing outside of Bidenflation but the insiders got generational wealth"
Posted by: 18-1 at June 05, 2025 03:00 PM (t0Rmr)
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You miss the point: Trump voters know that we are in the end stage of the Roman Empire here. We ain't fixing this.
We are far better off channeling the wealth that's left to the people who love America than we are cutting off the government spending and let a bunch of liberals who made themselves rich off the government rule over us with whatever businesses the government lets them run.
We are far better off channeling the wealth that's left to the people who love America than we are cutting off the government spending and let a bunch of liberals who made themselves rich off the government rule over us with whatever businesses the government lets them run.
Posted by: The Obvious, Plain Truth at June 05, 2025 03:01 PM (ACpVb)
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If that's all it is but it's not. His opposition is more about Trump now .
Posted by: polynikes at June 05, 2025 02:59 PM (VofaG
Exactly.. He made it personal...
If that's all it is but it's not. His opposition is more about Trump now .
Posted by: polynikes at June 05, 2025 02:59 PM (VofaG
Exactly.. He made it personal...
Posted by: It's me donna at June 05, 2025 03:01 PM (VE6XX)
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Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 05, 2025 02:56 PM (jQTUu)
You are a confidant with everyone who has worked with Trump?
You are a confidant with everyone who has worked with Trump?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 05, 2025 03:01 PM (yFObf)
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And here I figured ace would at least excoriate Musk the way he does Thomas Massie for saying the exact same things.
Posted by: Consistency is Key at June 05, 2025 03:01 PM (9iPPy)
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>>>Deputy FBI Director Dan Bongino sends a scathing message to the Deep State:
“If you are a corrupt politician.. we're going to find you.”
“I don't have any friends. I don't want any friends. I didn't come here for money.”
“If you're want a friend in D.C. get a dog. We're coming for you.”
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks,
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Post haste, Let's have a hot, clean election in '26,
“If you are a corrupt politician.. we're going to find you.”
“I don't have any friends. I don't want any friends. I didn't come here for money.”
“If you're want a friend in D.C. get a dog. We're coming for you.”
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks,
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Post haste, Let's have a hot, clean election in '26,
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 05, 2025 03:01 PM (vWeTL)
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Posted by: Lucia Pacciola at June 05, 2025 02:55 PM (jY8zQ)
Are there STILL dudes who sit back and wait for the very first sign of things going a little sideways and are *this* desperate to prove how RIGHT they really were?
Even ace is like yeah well this shit happens.
It's 2025. Whatever dumb shit you said between 2016 and 2024, you were wrong. Even Trump taking a giant dump on the a Lincoln Memorial ain't gonna make you right.
Read the room.
Are there STILL dudes who sit back and wait for the very first sign of things going a little sideways and are *this* desperate to prove how RIGHT they really were?
Even ace is like yeah well this shit happens.
It's 2025. Whatever dumb shit you said between 2016 and 2024, you were wrong. Even Trump taking a giant dump on the a Lincoln Memorial ain't gonna make you right.
Read the room.
Posted by: ... at June 05, 2025 03:01 PM (b6zgo)
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I'm watching the iSpace feed, and noticed something odd. Most of the people in Japan are wearing jackets that look like NASCAR uniforms - full of logos from corporate sponsors. It looks like 11 patches - one on the chest, and 5 down each sleeve.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 05, 2025 03:02 PM (VNX3d)
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I thought this would happen in the beginning. Two giant egos. It was never gonna last.
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at June 05, 2025 03:02 PM (NtVYv)
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The rescissions are a “We’ll gladly cut next Tuesday if you just let us pass a massive omnibus spending bill today.” Same scam the GOP has been running for decades.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at June 05, 2025 02:50 PM (l3YAf)
That's my take as well. There's several here, and they're people I don't consider dummies, who are essentially falling for promises in the future while being offered a crap sandwich now. We've been here before, as far back as Reagans amnesty, so we shouldn't be so easy to dupe by now.
These hints and promises of future cuts through recission seem a little like QAnon talk to me.
Trust the system.
The white hats'll win in the end. Yadda yadda.
The rescissions are a “We’ll gladly cut next Tuesday if you just let us pass a massive omnibus spending bill today.” Same scam the GOP has been running for decades.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at June 05, 2025 02:50 PM (l3YAf)
That's my take as well. There's several here, and they're people I don't consider dummies, who are essentially falling for promises in the future while being offered a crap sandwich now. We've been here before, as far back as Reagans amnesty, so we shouldn't be so easy to dupe by now.
These hints and promises of future cuts through recission seem a little like QAnon talk to me.
Trust the system.
The white hats'll win in the end. Yadda yadda.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at June 05, 2025 03:02 PM (FCbAQ)
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Well at least we won't have to see that annoying Kid of Musk's in the WH anymore
Posted by: It's me donna at June 05, 2025 03:02 PM (VE6XX)
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>>>Though to be honest it hasn't even gotten mean between Trump and Elon.. yet. Trump is basically on Level 1 on the VDH Cruel-o-meter.
so far, yeah, he's very even-keeled about it. I do think he might blow up if Musk keeps claiming credit for the victory.
so far, yeah, he's very even-keeled about it. I do think he might blow up if Musk keeps claiming credit for the victory.
Posted by: ace at June 05, 2025 03:02 PM (KRtlO)
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>>>121 Well at least we won't have to see that annoying Kid of Musk's in the WH anymore
aw I like that kid
aw I like that kid
Posted by: ace at June 05, 2025 03:03 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: eleven at June 05, 2025 03:03 PM (0HaGk)
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"Without me, Trump would have lost the election," Musk said on X. "Such ingratitude."
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The only way I see this as remorely true is that Elon bought Twitter and allowed conservatives to actually post there without the heavy-handed moderators in San Francisco gagging them as soon as they said anything that broke Woke Orthodoxy.
Other than that, which was done way before Elon ever endorsed Trump, I don't know how Musk thinks Trump owes him anything.
Trumo just wants a bill to fund the things he wants to fund immediately, along with keeping his 2017 tax cuts intact.
I get Elon doesn't like it, but there are far more constructive ways to go about getting things done than to throw fits on X about it.
It didn't go the way you want, then go in and lobby Congress for more cuts and reform in the future, as the GOP have pledged to do.
But expecting things to go the way you want them to in D.C. is a fools errand during the best of times, so don't get all worked up about it in this political environment.
You're just helping your enemies at this point, Elon, unless this all a play to stop all the hate directed at you and your companies?
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The only way I see this as remorely true is that Elon bought Twitter and allowed conservatives to actually post there without the heavy-handed moderators in San Francisco gagging them as soon as they said anything that broke Woke Orthodoxy.
Other than that, which was done way before Elon ever endorsed Trump, I don't know how Musk thinks Trump owes him anything.
Trumo just wants a bill to fund the things he wants to fund immediately, along with keeping his 2017 tax cuts intact.
I get Elon doesn't like it, but there are far more constructive ways to go about getting things done than to throw fits on X about it.
It didn't go the way you want, then go in and lobby Congress for more cuts and reform in the future, as the GOP have pledged to do.
But expecting things to go the way you want them to in D.C. is a fools errand during the best of times, so don't get all worked up about it in this political environment.
You're just helping your enemies at this point, Elon, unless this all a play to stop all the hate directed at you and your companies?
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 05, 2025 03:03 PM (6ydKt)
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These are problems that come with being the richest and most powerful country in the world.
If you are, say, Bolivia, then the IMF and the World Bank will sometimes tell you to get your finances in order, keep a balanced budget, and cut down on corruption, or you won't get any more loans.
The US Congress doesn't have to care about anything and anyone. Yes, there will be consequences down the road, but these will be felt long after the current members will have been replaced.
If you are, say, Bolivia, then the IMF and the World Bank will sometimes tell you to get your finances in order, keep a balanced budget, and cut down on corruption, or you won't get any more loans.
The US Congress doesn't have to care about anything and anyone. Yes, there will be consequences down the road, but these will be felt long after the current members will have been replaced.
Posted by: PG at June 05, 2025 03:03 PM (afPT4)
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The troll doesn't actually understand that, when it comes to the DC swamp, I'm fine with broken dishes and piles of bullshit. I would actually prefer a huge, smoldering crater, though.
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at June 05, 2025 03:03 PM (sfpgX)
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Bongino is a yapping Chihuahua. He's got nothing. If he did actually have something, he'd let his actions speak for themselves. What an embarrassing fraud.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at June 05, 2025 03:04 PM (pbU3z)
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People do not realize Trump?We need this BBB to institute Trumps aggressive agenda. Next proposal should be much less spending. I consider this a true investment in saving this country....
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We had to borrow $4 trillion in order to cut $9 billion.
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We had to borrow $4 trillion in order to cut $9 billion.
Posted by: Methos at June 05, 2025 03:04 PM (Dnobf)
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I would rather have taxpayer money go to the DOD and Homeland Security and tax cuts for the lower and middle class that NGO's any day .....
BTW Trump wants to fill the void of skilled US labor by creating Vocational Schools with the money he cut from Harvard.. The man is a free thinker Fo Sho
BTW Trump wants to fill the void of skilled US labor by creating Vocational Schools with the money he cut from Harvard.. The man is a free thinker Fo Sho
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 05, 2025 03:04 PM (wxO3z)
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We don't care because we don't have to.
Posted by: Congress at June 05, 2025 03:05 PM (hpQri)
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Whether politically naive or not (don't know), blowing up a bill that would have prevented across the board massive tax hikes on ~80% of the population is not going to go well for Musk or Congressional GOP in the mid-terms.
You can buy a lightly used Tesla in California for ~$8K, so I sympathize with Elon and the damage he incurred based on his participation. But now he's pulling a John Roberts and going to alienate a lot of the rest of the populace that he won over. It's a temper tantrum that will cost him dearly, but also the GOP.
You can buy a lightly used Tesla in California for ~$8K, so I sympathize with Elon and the damage he incurred based on his participation. But now he's pulling a John Roberts and going to alienate a lot of the rest of the populace that he won over. It's a temper tantrum that will cost him dearly, but also the GOP.
Posted by: Little Larry Sellers at June 05, 2025 03:05 PM (Q3PZW)
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grow up, everybody, you carrion feeders. oooh, im mad, im leaving, its all your fault, i want compensatory and punitive damages, justice for you, mercy for meeeeee
Posted by: 80's music fan at June 05, 2025 03:05 PM (QSrLX)
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Will all the Telsa-lovers-turned-Telsa-haters start loving Tesla again?
Posted by: Tessy Poo I See You at June 05, 2025 03:05 PM (xtKM4)
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You are a confidant with everyone who has worked with Trump?
I can watch their public statements. Who DIDN'T he piss off first time through ? Flynn and Huckabee Sanders. The most loyal guy - Bannon - was the first one fired. I guess because he didn't look good in a suit.
I can watch their public statements. Who DIDN'T he piss off first time through ? Flynn and Huckabee Sanders. The most loyal guy - Bannon - was the first one fired. I guess because he didn't look good in a suit.
Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 05, 2025 03:05 PM (jQTUu)
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30 21 I wonder what Elon will call the third party?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 05, 2025 02:39 PM (H4vqY)
The Leave Me The F*&@ Alone Party?
The Get Out of My Way Party?
The Drop Dead Fed Party?
There are sooo many possibilities.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 05, 2025 02:42 PM (VNX3d)
__________________________
X
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 05, 2025 02:39 PM (H4vqY)
The Leave Me The F*&@ Alone Party?
The Get Out of My Way Party?
The Drop Dead Fed Party?
There are sooo many possibilities.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 05, 2025 02:42 PM (VNX3d)
__________________________
X
Posted by: Orson at June 05, 2025 03:05 PM (dIske)
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Trump forgot that Elon is an aspie.
If he had considered that Trump would have had a prep talk before the surprise.
If he had considered that Trump would have had a prep talk before the surprise.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 05, 2025 03:05 PM (vWeTL)
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This is starting to feel like a staged WWW "fight". These are two smart and savvy businessmen and they are going after each other on social media like a couple of children.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 05, 2025 03:05 PM (viF8m)
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I have no problem with Elon being a hardliner on Spending Cuts.
None.
Posted by: garrett at June 05, 2025 02:56 PM (hJb7m)
Me either but he shouldn't have made it personal .
Posted by: It's me donna at June 05, 2025 02:58 PM (VE6XX)
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I have no problem with being a hardliner on cuts. Musk should push for as much as possible. He did. But don't be delusional about it, or pick personal fights over it. What would Musk have Trump do that has any chance of getting past the shitbag House and fuckface Senate?
None.
Posted by: garrett at June 05, 2025 02:56 PM (hJb7m)
Me either but he shouldn't have made it personal .
Posted by: It's me donna at June 05, 2025 02:58 PM (VE6XX)
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I have no problem with being a hardliner on cuts. Musk should push for as much as possible. He did. But don't be delusional about it, or pick personal fights over it. What would Musk have Trump do that has any chance of getting past the shitbag House and fuckface Senate?
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 05, 2025 03:05 PM (iFTx/)
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And the answer is "you got nothing outside of Bidenflation but the insiders got generational wealth"
Posted by: 18-1 at June 05, 2025 03:00 PM (t0Rmr)
Well, I think the Bidens are finding the well is running dry. Dr Jill will be doing OnlyFans before long.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 05, 2025 03:00 PM (t0Rmr)
Well, I think the Bidens are finding the well is running dry. Dr Jill will be doing OnlyFans before long.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 05, 2025 03:05 PM (N39Ws)
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123 >>>121 Well at least we won't have to see that annoying Kid of Musk's in the WH anymore
aw I like that kid
Posted by: ace at June 05, 2025 03:03 PM (KRtlO)
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Me, too. But the boy is safer out of the limelight. The level of Elon Derangement Syndrome puts the child (and his other children) at risk. That's true for any patriot standing up to the Deep State.
aw I like that kid
Posted by: ace at June 05, 2025 03:03 PM (KRtlO)
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Me, too. But the boy is safer out of the limelight. The level of Elon Derangement Syndrome puts the child (and his other children) at risk. That's true for any patriot standing up to the Deep State.
Posted by: Coki at June 05, 2025 03:06 PM (w+fUf)
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There is no "80% in the middle."
There's 45% on your "team" and maybe 6% who'll go with who looks like they'll be the winner.
That's it. It's real retarded to think otherwise.
There is only one path to "win."
Get your team on your fucking team.
What happened to the threat to fund primary candidates?
Don't give me that shit about waiting until next year--is Hogg, weak, pansy-ass, nobody Hogg, smarter than you?
'Cause he's raising funds right NOW for primary candidate. Not next year.
And the Olds are scared.
There's 45% on your "team" and maybe 6% who'll go with who looks like they'll be the winner.
That's it. It's real retarded to think otherwise.
There is only one path to "win."
Get your team on your fucking team.
What happened to the threat to fund primary candidates?
Don't give me that shit about waiting until next year--is Hogg, weak, pansy-ass, nobody Hogg, smarter than you?
'Cause he's raising funds right NOW for primary candidate. Not next year.
And the Olds are scared.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 05, 2025 03:06 PM (KhUhr)
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Trump thinks this is the best we can do right now, Musk thinks we can and should do more.
Its that simple. Now, one of them is right and one isn't. But, let's not make this total dramarama...
Posted by: 18-1 at June 05, 2025 02:58 PM (t0Rmr)
I kind of think they're both right but for Elon to be definitely right there would have to be some... err... let's call it hardball.
Elon hung his name on these cuts. Bigly. He had every reason to think they could make it happen even if he doesn't realize this is Republitown.
I feel for him. Not in a personal way or like I used to about those long distance commercials when grandma would finally get to talk to her grandson serving overseas, but in a you fucked up you trusted the Republicans way. Who among us hasn't been there at least once.
Its that simple. Now, one of them is right and one isn't. But, let's not make this total dramarama...
Posted by: 18-1 at June 05, 2025 02:58 PM (t0Rmr)
I kind of think they're both right but for Elon to be definitely right there would have to be some... err... let's call it hardball.
Elon hung his name on these cuts. Bigly. He had every reason to think they could make it happen even if he doesn't realize this is Republitown.
I feel for him. Not in a personal way or like I used to about those long distance commercials when grandma would finally get to talk to her grandson serving overseas, but in a you fucked up you trusted the Republicans way. Who among us hasn't been there at least once.
Posted by: ... at June 05, 2025 03:06 PM (b6zgo)
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138 This is starting to feel like a staged WWW "fight". These are two smart and savvy businessmen and they are going after each other on social media like a couple of children.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 05, 2025 03:05 PM (viF8m)
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Trump and Elon have a lot in common. And both like to kick the hornet's nest and troll.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 05, 2025 03:05 PM (viF8m)
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Trump and Elon have a lot in common. And both like to kick the hornet's nest and troll.
Posted by: Coki at June 05, 2025 03:07 PM (w+fUf)
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Elon Musk: "Is it time to create a new political party in America that actually represents the 80% in the middle?"
Elon Perot? The Elonistsas?
I voted Perot the first time. This time, it would be harder. Or not. Really don't know. The GOPe had been so compromised that Perot didn't stand a chance. Musk would have more of a chance now, but all things are relative. Has the Populist era reached a point where BOTH parties are dumped, finally, to have true Federal reform? I'd like to see it happen in my lifetime. I'm 29, so theoretically, it could happen, but it needs to happen sooner than later.
Elon Perot? The Elonistsas?
I voted Perot the first time. This time, it would be harder. Or not. Really don't know. The GOPe had been so compromised that Perot didn't stand a chance. Musk would have more of a chance now, but all things are relative. Has the Populist era reached a point where BOTH parties are dumped, finally, to have true Federal reform? I'd like to see it happen in my lifetime. I'm 29, so theoretically, it could happen, but it needs to happen sooner than later.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at June 05, 2025 03:07 PM (gLikB)
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Full of logos from corporate sponsors. It looks like 11 patches - one on the chest, and 5 down each sleeve.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf
Commercial endeavor... why not advertise?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf
Commercial endeavor... why not advertise?
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 05, 2025 03:07 PM (o+C8N)
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who controls the purse strings again? Beuller?
Posted by: 80's music fan at June 05, 2025 03:07 PM (QSrLX)
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I assume the Left is confused now whether they are supposed to vandalize Teslas or not.
I'm not sure if the Borg has sent a signal yet.
I'm not sure if the Borg has sent a signal yet.
Posted by: polynikes at June 05, 2025 03:07 PM (VofaG)
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There's several here, and they're people I don't consider dummies, who are essentially falling for promises in the future while being offered a crap sandwich now.
What you want, what we'd all prefer, isn't going to happen. That's really the key point. The "I cut 2 trillion from the budget" bill isn't going to happen. So we have two choices.
- Cut what we can, when we can, and come back for more.
- Hold out for perfection, have the GOP refuse, and get nothing.
The people who're "falling for promises in the future" are trying to get something for once.
What you want, what we'd all prefer, isn't going to happen. That's really the key point. The "I cut 2 trillion from the budget" bill isn't going to happen. So we have two choices.
- Cut what we can, when we can, and come back for more.
- Hold out for perfection, have the GOP refuse, and get nothing.
The people who're "falling for promises in the future" are trying to get something for once.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 05, 2025 03:08 PM (ExV1e)
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Part of the problem is the debt is so huge people cannot fathom how bad it is.
I've had conversations with someone that was a college graduate and when the huge stimulus packages during Obamas term, they thought 787 billion was enough to give everyone in America 1 million dollars and they got mad at me when I tried to explain the math.
The person above with the seconds example needs to be spread far and wide so people understand how broke we are.
I've had conversations with someone that was a college graduate and when the huge stimulus packages during Obamas term, they thought 787 billion was enough to give everyone in America 1 million dollars and they got mad at me when I tried to explain the math.
The person above with the seconds example needs to be spread far and wide so people understand how broke we are.
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 05, 2025 03:08 PM (IFJVl)
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We had to borrow $4 trillion in order to cut $9 billion.
Posted by: Methos at June 05, 2025 03:04 PM (Dnobf)
Midterms?
Posted by: Methos at June 05, 2025 03:04 PM (Dnobf)
Midterms?
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 05, 2025 03:08 PM (wxO3z)
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The media is going to start blaming Tesla vandalism on pissed off Trump supporters now.
Posted by: Mark1971 at June 05, 2025 03:08 PM (Vj4xA)
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Musk can fuck off. He didn’t run for office, he didn’t get shot. Trump did…. I can recognize he helped with the election but he did not win the election for Trump. If he wants to be a crybaby he can fuck off…. Tired of the richest of the rich being so entitled
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 05, 2025 03:09 PM (OW907)
154
Welp, this country is going down the shitter for sure now. Get while the gettin' is good, boys.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at June 05, 2025 03:09 PM (pbU3z)
155
Trump and Elon have a lot in common. And both like to kick the hornet's nest and troll.
Posted by: Coki at June 05, 2025 03:07 PM (w+fUf)
But only one was elected President.
Posted by: Coki at June 05, 2025 03:07 PM (w+fUf)
But only one was elected President.
Posted by: polynikes at June 05, 2025 03:09 PM (VofaG)
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As a Gen Xer of divorced parents, I can say that Babylon Bee headline hits hard...real hard.
Was remarking to Mrs Meanie that this feels like Mom and Dad are fighting all over again, so basically the time frame from 1978 to 1982. Gonna go put on my striped socks, dolphin shorts, and listen to REO Speedwagon.
Was remarking to Mrs Meanie that this feels like Mom and Dad are fighting all over again, so basically the time frame from 1978 to 1982. Gonna go put on my striped socks, dolphin shorts, and listen to REO Speedwagon.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 05, 2025 03:09 PM (qwx/I)
157
"Munk, 53, hit back...". Kafaybe, you clowns
Posted by: 80's music fan at June 05, 2025 03:09 PM (QSrLX)
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Holy Moly. It's gone Nuclear.
Trump: "The easiest way to save money in our Budget, Billions and Billions of Dollars, is to terminate Elon’s Governmental Subsidies and Contracts."
Trump: "The easiest way to save money in our Budget, Billions and Billions of Dollars, is to terminate Elon’s Governmental Subsidies and Contracts."
Posted by: WisRich at June 05, 2025 03:10 PM (G0vdT)
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Rushmore Rumble
Posted by: Dexter's Lab at June 05, 2025 03:10 PM (63Dwl)
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Full of logos from corporate sponsors. It looks like 11 patches - one on the chest, and 5 down each sleeve.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf
Commercial endeavor... why not advertise?
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 05, 2025 03:07 PM (o+C8N)
Congress should follow their lead. You sponsor their campaign, you get a proportional logo on the their asbestos suit while their in office. The more your organization lobbies a congressperson, the larger the logo.
Make it obvious who each person elected to Congress really serves.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf
Commercial endeavor... why not advertise?
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 05, 2025 03:07 PM (o+C8N)
Congress should follow their lead. You sponsor their campaign, you get a proportional logo on the their asbestos suit while their in office. The more your organization lobbies a congressperson, the larger the logo.
Make it obvious who each person elected to Congress really serves.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 05, 2025 03:10 PM (VNX3d)
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But Thomas wasn't finished. He let loose in a scathing footnote:
The “‘background circumstances’” rule is nonsensical for an additional reason: It requires courts to assume that only an “‘unusual employer’” would discriminate against those it perceives to be in the majority. But, a number of this Nation’s largest and most prestigious employers have overtly discriminated against those they deem members of so-called majority groups. American employers have long been “obsessed” with “diversity, equity, and inclusion” initiatives and affirmative action plans... Initiatives of this kind have often led to overt discrimination against those perceived to be in the majority.
The “‘background circumstances’” rule is nonsensical for an additional reason: It requires courts to assume that only an “‘unusual employer’” would discriminate against those it perceives to be in the majority. But, a number of this Nation’s largest and most prestigious employers have overtly discriminated against those they deem members of so-called majority groups. American employers have long been “obsessed” with “diversity, equity, and inclusion” initiatives and affirmative action plans... Initiatives of this kind have often led to overt discrimination against those perceived to be in the majority.
Posted by: SMOD at June 05, 2025 03:10 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 05, 2025 03:11 PM (qwx/I)
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Posted by: Lucia Pacciola at June 05, 2025 02:55 PM
Try again. Trump is not-and has not- and never will be - my Messiah, but welcome aboard new nic.
Try again. Trump is not-and has not- and never will be - my Messiah, but welcome aboard new nic.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 05, 2025 03:11 PM (yFObf)
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The white hats'll win in the end. Yadda yadda.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at June 05
What is your idea? And how does it pass?
Posted by: OneEyedJack at June 05
What is your idea? And how does it pass?
Posted by: Piper at June 05, 2025 03:11 PM (pZEOD)
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Now Elon wants to start a new party that represents the middle.
So he's looking for that perfect 33%/33%/33% split that's already in the country?
Knowing full well that's what will happen at the ballot box, and we'll be left with a Dem victory as they come out to vote, and the Trump voters are looking at two parties who might each represent half of what they want.
So you got one guy who likes Trump, but hates the GOP, voting for Elon-Middle-Way.
And you got another guy who likes Trump, but hates the GOP but votes for them anyway because he doesn't want to take the slightest chance of the Dems winning.
You are not Nigel Farage, Elon, and this isn't the right place or right time for that kind of ego-maniacal nonsense.
Trump needs the best shot he can get in 2026 to make any of this stuff permanent in Congress and prevent himself from being impeached by a bunch of rabid, hungry, Democrats all ready to pounce.
So he's looking for that perfect 33%/33%/33% split that's already in the country?
Knowing full well that's what will happen at the ballot box, and we'll be left with a Dem victory as they come out to vote, and the Trump voters are looking at two parties who might each represent half of what they want.
So you got one guy who likes Trump, but hates the GOP, voting for Elon-Middle-Way.
And you got another guy who likes Trump, but hates the GOP but votes for them anyway because he doesn't want to take the slightest chance of the Dems winning.
You are not Nigel Farage, Elon, and this isn't the right place or right time for that kind of ego-maniacal nonsense.
Trump needs the best shot he can get in 2026 to make any of this stuff permanent in Congress and prevent himself from being impeached by a bunch of rabid, hungry, Democrats all ready to pounce.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 05, 2025 03:11 PM (6ydKt)
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Holy Moly. It's gone Nuclear.
Trump: "The easiest way to save money in our Budget, Billions and Billions of Dollars, is to terminate Elon’s Governmental Subsidies and Contracts."
Posted by: WisRich at June 05, 2025 03:10 PM
SMH.
Trump: "The easiest way to save money in our Budget, Billions and Billions of Dollars, is to terminate Elon’s Governmental Subsidies and Contracts."
Posted by: WisRich at June 05, 2025 03:10 PM
SMH.
Posted by: toby928 at June 05, 2025 03:11 PM (jc0TO)
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Musk's contribution to Trump's reelection really wasn't the hundreds of millions he donated. It was his sacrificing billions to wrench Twitter away from the Left and the DNC/Progressives at the last moment and just in time to avoid total Silicon Valley gagging of the Right in social media.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at June 05, 2025 03:12 PM (gLikB)
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154 Welp, this country is going down the shitter for sure now. Get while the gettin' is good, boys.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at June 05, 2025 03:09 PM (pbU3z
Ill bring the hoods and loot sacks. No hurting the women and children..
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at June 05, 2025 03:09 PM (pbU3z
Ill bring the hoods and loot sacks. No hurting the women and children..
Posted by: Cullen Bohannon at June 05, 2025 03:12 PM (wxO3z)
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>>Trump: "The easiest way to save money in our Budget, Billions and Billions of Dollars, is to terminate Elon’s Governmental Subsidies and Contracts."
That would allow you to cut the Space Force, too.
Because we can't get to space without Musk, it seems. So, no need to throw money in that hole anymore.
That would allow you to cut the Space Force, too.
Because we can't get to space without Musk, it seems. So, no need to throw money in that hole anymore.
Posted by: garrett at June 05, 2025 03:12 PM (hJb7m)
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>>Trump and Elon have a lot in common. And both like to kick the hornet's nest and troll.
I know this is just the start of the rescission process not the end and I'm just a moron with a keyboard. It has been said by various members of the Trump administration over and over and over. It's also been said by various members of Congress. How in the hell did Musk spend 3 months in DC practically liviing with Trump and he doesn't know this?
They both know this is not the way to make change. Elon is convincing absolutely nobody in Congress to change their votes by lashing out in public. He is famous for acting that very way when he is publicly chastised.
He's got Trump's bat phone. Pick up the phone and call.
I know this is just the start of the rescission process not the end and I'm just a moron with a keyboard. It has been said by various members of the Trump administration over and over and over. It's also been said by various members of Congress. How in the hell did Musk spend 3 months in DC practically liviing with Trump and he doesn't know this?
They both know this is not the way to make change. Elon is convincing absolutely nobody in Congress to change their votes by lashing out in public. He is famous for acting that very way when he is publicly chastised.
He's got Trump's bat phone. Pick up the phone and call.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 05, 2025 03:12 PM (viF8m)
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I assume the Left is confused now whether they are supposed to vandalize Teslas or not.
I'm not sure if the Borg has sent a signal yet.
Posted by: polynikes at June 05, 2025 03:07 PM (VofaG)
Investors are not. Tesla took a 14% dump today.
I'm not sure if the Borg has sent a signal yet.
Posted by: polynikes at June 05, 2025 03:07 PM (VofaG)
Investors are not. Tesla took a 14% dump today.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 05, 2025 03:12 PM (i24o9)
Posted by: Congressional Budget Analyst Wonks at June 05, 2025 03:12 PM (Aqu9a)
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Elon Musk
@elonmusk
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1m
Time to drop the really big bomb:
@realDonaldTrump
is in the Epstein files. That is the real reason they have not been made public.
Have a nice day, DJT!
Good gravy.
Elon Musk
@elonmusk
·
1m
Time to drop the really big bomb:
@realDonaldTrump
is in the Epstein files. That is the real reason they have not been made public.
Have a nice day, DJT!
Good gravy.
Posted by: Piper at June 05, 2025 03:12 PM (pZEOD)
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I have no problem with being a hardliner on cuts. Musk should push for as much as possible. He did. But don't be delusional about it, or pick personal fights over it. What would Musk have Trump do that has any chance of getting past the shitbag House and fuckface Senate?
Posted by: Elric Blade
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This show does help to put the onus on those who caused the bill to be a POS. They are not only more easily identifiable it comes with an emotional charge. The primaries and election could be lit.
I have no problem with being a hardliner on cuts. Musk should push for as much as possible. He did. But don't be delusional about it, or pick personal fights over it. What would Musk have Trump do that has any chance of getting past the shitbag House and fuckface Senate?
Posted by: Elric Blade
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This show does help to put the onus on those who caused the bill to be a POS. They are not only more easily identifiable it comes with an emotional charge. The primaries and election could be lit.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 05, 2025 03:13 PM (vWeTL)
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I won't go the "staged" route. I believe Elon believed in the cuts - he had every reason to trust Trump would not let his good name twist in the wind by getting nothing done - but the reality is Republicans are garbage trash fags and always will be and as much as it falls on Trump to not get the spending reduced, I don't know how it was going to ever ever happen. I have said this from day 1.
All you have to do to know the budget ain't EVER getting significantly shrunk (other than knowing what politicians are) is look at the pie chart of where the spending goes every year. I have said this for years. Go look.
All you have to do to know the budget ain't EVER getting significantly shrunk (other than knowing what politicians are) is look at the pie chart of where the spending goes every year. I have said this for years. Go look.
Posted by: ... at June 05, 2025 03:13 PM (b6zgo)
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Elon Musk
@elonmusk
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1m
Time to drop the really big bomb:
@realDonaldTrump
is in the Epstein files. That is the real reason they have not been made public.
Have a nice day, DJT!
Good gravy.
Posted by: Piper at June 05, 2025 03:12 PM (pZEOD)
Wow...
@elonmusk
·
1m
Time to drop the really big bomb:
@realDonaldTrump
is in the Epstein files. That is the real reason they have not been made public.
Have a nice day, DJT!
Good gravy.
Posted by: Piper at June 05, 2025 03:12 PM (pZEOD)
Wow...
Posted by: It's me donna at June 05, 2025 03:13 PM (VE6XX)
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Remember, Trump used to own professional wrestling shows and knows all about kayfabe. This could be a genuine falling-out, or it could be a scripted show of conflict to gin up popular support for what Trump and Elon both want anyway.
Posted by: craig at June 05, 2025 03:13 PM (1dUlh)
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4-D Chess?
Trump and Musk as Kirk and Spock playing an elaborate charade to outfox the deep state Romulan / Klingon alliance?
Melania to wear a microskirt uniform in a supporting role?
4-D Chess?
Trump and Musk as Kirk and Spock playing an elaborate charade to outfox the deep state Romulan / Klingon alliance?
Melania to wear a microskirt uniform in a supporting role?
Posted by: Auspex at June 05, 2025 03:13 PM (j4U/Z)
Posted by: ace at June 05, 2025 03:13 PM (KRtlO)
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Trump: "The easiest way to save money in our Budget, Billions and Billions of Dollars, is to terminate Elon’s Governmental Subsidies and Contracts."
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Yeah, that's definitely easier and more constructive than zeroing out USAID.
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Yeah, that's definitely easier and more constructive than zeroing out USAID.
Posted by: Methos at June 05, 2025 03:13 PM (Dnobf)
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Big egos on full display.
Like I said earlier; Musk was a neophyte political influencer. He certainly helped guide some percentage of the electorate to Trump. Whether he "won" the election for him is.... debatable.
Once the political realities of the DOGE waste, fraud and abuses were applied... nothing was going to happen. Not without a pliable GOP that would bend to Trump (and Musk's) wishes. And perhaps required Democrat buy-in as well. That wasn't in the cards at all.
That right there is probably the biggest issue.
Like I said earlier; Musk was a neophyte political influencer. He certainly helped guide some percentage of the electorate to Trump. Whether he "won" the election for him is.... debatable.
Once the political realities of the DOGE waste, fraud and abuses were applied... nothing was going to happen. Not without a pliable GOP that would bend to Trump (and Musk's) wishes. And perhaps required Democrat buy-in as well. That wasn't in the cards at all.
That right there is probably the biggest issue.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 05, 2025 03:14 PM (Q4IgG)
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Elon's gonna get deported.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 05, 2025 03:14 PM (qwx/I)
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Can't we all just get along?
Posted by: zombie Rodney King at June 05, 2025 03:14 PM (0sNs1)
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Nothing is politically impossible. The Dems funded cutting kids' dicks off and locking down the Country for a fuking year. They lack the will. Hence, the inevitability of the Day of the Rope.
Posted by: Juris Doctor Doom at June 05, 2025 03:14 PM (i6shs)
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Cuts/Recission.
It's the same BS. Cut medicaid for able bodied people and you're going to kill them per the MSM and the Irish Fuck Bono
There's definitely waste. The political will is what's missing.
That's why Trump should pull a Toss Perot in the Oval Office with charts and explain it.
Any time some D or talking head brings up "cuts killing people" ask them to provide names and numbers. Why TF if we cut 10B from USAUD and some Botswana city is going to go without water so 200 people are going to die? Fuck that. Get your " society " to help you or reach out to the UN.
We're not the world's policeman.
We're not the world's plumber.
We're not the world's farmer.
We're not the world's doctor nor dentist.
We're 250 years d and a these "indigenous " societies and cultures haven't figured that shit out yet after a couple of millenia?
Darwinism. It's a bitch.
It's the same BS. Cut medicaid for able bodied people and you're going to kill them per the MSM and the Irish Fuck Bono
There's definitely waste. The political will is what's missing.
That's why Trump should pull a Toss Perot in the Oval Office with charts and explain it.
Any time some D or talking head brings up "cuts killing people" ask them to provide names and numbers. Why TF if we cut 10B from USAUD and some Botswana city is going to go without water so 200 people are going to die? Fuck that. Get your " society " to help you or reach out to the UN.
We're not the world's policeman.
We're not the world's plumber.
We're not the world's farmer.
We're not the world's doctor nor dentist.
We're 250 years d and a these "indigenous " societies and cultures haven't figured that shit out yet after a couple of millenia?
Darwinism. It's a bitch.
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at June 05, 2025 03:14 PM (JkCto)
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I love what has been done about the border, but only 9.4 billion in cuts? The uniparty gravy train will continue.
Posted by: Darth Randall at June 05, 2025 03:14 PM (f1kZG)
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Holy Moly. It's gone Nuclear.
Trump: "The easiest way to save money in our Budget, Billions and Billions of Dollars, is to terminate Elon’s Governmental Subsidies and Contracts."
Posted by: WisRich at June 05, 2025 03:10 PM (G0vdT)
And that's Trump. lol
Trump: "The easiest way to save money in our Budget, Billions and Billions of Dollars, is to terminate Elon’s Governmental Subsidies and Contracts."
Posted by: WisRich at June 05, 2025 03:10 PM (G0vdT)
And that's Trump. lol
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 05, 2025 03:15 PM (i24o9)
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Steven Smith has been making some good points, with examples, as to why the BBB is much better than is being reported. Let's not forget it's extending tax cuts that, if the Dums had their way, would mean real tax increases for most people. That's huge.
I don't know if Smith is right or wrong or somewhere in the middle. I do trust him more than the endless screechers.
And the Dumocraps can't stop screaming about how the BBB will kill everyone in the country. That's a good sign.
I think Musk may be reacting emotionally to the fact that the DOGE cuts aren't codified, rather than look at the bill as a whole.
I don't know if Smith is right or wrong or somewhere in the middle. I do trust him more than the endless screechers.
And the Dumocraps can't stop screaming about how the BBB will kill everyone in the country. That's a good sign.
I think Musk may be reacting emotionally to the fact that the DOGE cuts aren't codified, rather than look at the bill as a whole.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 05, 2025 03:15 PM (iFTx/)
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OMG did Elon go there??? Hahahahaha. Oh alright I guess the fluffy handbags have gone away.
This is unreal. Now I'm wondering if it IS staged. Hahaahahaah. It's certainly taken taco out of the news.
This is unreal. Now I'm wondering if it IS staged. Hahaahahaah. It's certainly taken taco out of the news.
Posted by: ... at June 05, 2025 03:15 PM (b6zgo)
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@ace - did you see what Elon just posted? This is not good.
Posted by: Piper at June 05, 2025 03:15 PM (pZEOD)
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I'm not buying the drama here. I don't care who's selling it.
The Left has been DYING to make this split happen.
I'm not buying in.
The Left has been DYING to make this split happen.
I'm not buying in.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 05, 2025 03:15 PM (xcxpd)
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>> Elon Musk
@elonmusk
·
1m
Time to drop the really big bomb:
@realDonaldTrump
is in the Epstein files. That is the real reason they have not been made public.
Have a nice day, DJT!
BOOM
Well. I guess we can rule out Kayfabe.
@elonmusk
·
1m
Time to drop the really big bomb:
@realDonaldTrump
is in the Epstein files. That is the real reason they have not been made public.
Have a nice day, DJT!
BOOM
Well. I guess we can rule out Kayfabe.
Posted by: garrett at June 05, 2025 03:15 PM (hJb7m)
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Gonna go put on my striped socks, dolphin shorts, and listen to REO Speedwagon.
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"Hi Infidelity" was pretty epic.
"You Can Tune a Piano but Can't Tuna Fish" was as well.
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"Hi Infidelity" was pretty epic.
"You Can Tune a Piano but Can't Tuna Fish" was as well.
Posted by: Crusader at June 05, 2025 03:15 PM (TN0g+)
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Congress should follow their lead.
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Republicans Announce Plan To Keep Doing Opposite Of What Everyone Voted For Them To
- The Bee
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Republicans Announce Plan To Keep Doing Opposite Of What Everyone Voted For Them To
- The Bee
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not at June 05, 2025 03:15 PM (L/fGl)
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Melania to wear a microskirt uniform in a supporting role?
Posted by: Auspex at June 05, 2025 03:13 PM
Since our tricorders aren't working, we're going to need to inspect your underwear drawer throughly.
Posted by: Auspex at June 05, 2025 03:13 PM
Since our tricorders aren't working, we're going to need to inspect your underwear drawer throughly.
Posted by: Federation Bureau of Intrusion at June 05, 2025 03:15 PM (0sNs1)
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New Party, 100%, no questions asked. But Musk could never pull that off without Trump. Never. If that's what he wants to go for, he'll need to mend the fence.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 05, 2025 03:16 PM (BI5O2)
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This is like when Hawkeye and BJ staged a fight for Frank's entertainment.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 05, 2025 03:16 PM (qwx/I)
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190 @ace - did you see what Elon just posted? This is not good.
Posted by: Piper at June 05, 2025 03:15 PM (pZEOD)
That's bizarre....
Posted by: Piper at June 05, 2025 03:15 PM (pZEOD)
That's bizarre....
Posted by: It's me donna at June 05, 2025 03:16 PM (VE6XX)
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Blah Blah says he hopes the democrats regain the congress and the white house so they can increase spending on our SS, medicare and other goodies that we don't need but want as it makes maintaining our 3 vacation homes and our 2 Teslas that much easier on our wallets. The National Debt should be doubled or tripled which we do not mind as we are not paying it back anyways. LOL! Thank you Hakeem Jeffries!
Posted by: Harriet And Blah Blah Nyborg, Lifelong democrats and moochers at June 05, 2025 03:16 PM (PxmHT)
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When Trump figures out where his bully pulpit and veto pen went and actually fights for spending cuts, then I will give him the benefit of the doubt. Until then, Musk is absolutely correct.
Posted by: Keyser at June 05, 2025 03:16 PM (inyfH)
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did you see what Elon just posted? This is not good.
Posted by: Piper at June 05, 2025 03:15 PM (pZEOD)
Nah it's fine. I am so sorry I posted it hadn't gotten cruel yet. Like ten minutes ago. 😂😂😂
Posted by: Piper at June 05, 2025 03:15 PM (pZEOD)
Nah it's fine. I am so sorry I posted it hadn't gotten cruel yet. Like ten minutes ago. 😂😂😂
Posted by: ... at June 05, 2025 03:16 PM (b6zgo)
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@realDonaldTrump
is in the Epstein files. That is the real reason they have not been made public.
Have a nice day, DJT!
Good gravy.
Posted by: Piper at June 05, 2025 03:12 PM
This is nuts. It will not end well.
@realDonaldTrump
is in the Epstein files. That is the real reason they have not been made public.
Have a nice day, DJT!
Good gravy.
Posted by: Piper at June 05, 2025 03:12 PM
This is nuts. It will not end well.
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 05, 2025 03:17 PM (IFJVl)
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198 190 @ace - did you see what Elon just posted? This is not good.
Posted by: Piper at June 05, 2025 03:15 PM (pZEOD)
That's bizarre....
Posted by: It's me donna at June
Yeah, this is beyond just 2 alphas being jerks.
Posted by: Piper at June 05, 2025 03:15 PM (pZEOD)
That's bizarre....
Posted by: It's me donna at June
Yeah, this is beyond just 2 alphas being jerks.
Posted by: Piper at June 05, 2025 03:17 PM (pZEOD)
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@realDonaldTrump
is in the Epstein files. That is the real reason they have not been made public.
Have a nice day, DJT!
I don't see that....
is in the Epstein files. That is the real reason they have not been made public.
Have a nice day, DJT!
I don't see that....
Posted by: It's me donna at June 05, 2025 03:17 PM (VE6XX)
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173
Elon Musk
@elonmusk
·
1m
Time to drop the really big bomb:
@realDonaldTrump
is in the Epstein files. That is the real reason they have not been made public.
Have a nice day, DJT!
Good gravy.
Posted by: Piper a
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This isn't at his site.
Elon Musk
@elonmusk
·
1m
Time to drop the really big bomb:
@realDonaldTrump
is in the Epstein files. That is the real reason they have not been made public.
Have a nice day, DJT!
Good gravy.
Posted by: Piper a
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This isn't at his site.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 05, 2025 03:17 PM (vWeTL)
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Its public knowledge - Trump is on the flight logs for the Epstein plane ? Did Trump partake ? I wouldn't have voted for the guy if I thought so.
This is going to get ugly fast.
This is going to get ugly fast.
Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 05, 2025 03:18 PM (jQTUu)
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 05, 2025 03:18 PM (54gon)
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206 Its public knowledge - Trump is on the flight logs for the Epstein plane ? Did Trump partake ? I wouldn't have voted for the guy if I thought so.
Oh please
Oh please
Posted by: It's me donna at June 05, 2025 03:18 PM (VE6XX)
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I'll hold off believing this until its confirmed.
Posted by: Crusader at June 05, 2025 03:18 PM (TN0g+)
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Popcorn futures are up >300 pts today.
Posted by: Market Watch at June 05, 2025 03:19 PM (9iPPy)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not at June 05, 2025 03:19 PM (L/fGl)
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Next up, Trump confirming Elon is a ketamine addict. In 3, 2, 1
Posted by: Piper at June 05, 2025 03:19 PM (pZEOD)
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The harsh facts are that to do what Musk wants to do, and arguably what needs doing, would require Trump to stage a military coup, impose martial law, and imprison most of Congress and the judiciary. As attractive as that may sound, there is no way that Trump, or the right in general, has the supply needed to pull that off.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 05, 2025 03:19 PM (3tIsI)
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"This business will get out of control...and we'll be lucky to live through it."
-Admiral Painter
-Admiral Painter
Posted by: Frank Barone at June 05, 2025 03:19 PM (IifOV)
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Yikes, glad I didn't buy any Tesla stock today.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 05, 2025 03:19 PM (qwx/I)
216
Yeah Trumps totally in the epstein files guise I'm super cereal.
Like that wouldn't have been leaked a million times over during election season. Fuck off Elon go play with your super smart H1bs and onlyfans incubators.
Like that wouldn't have been leaked a million times over during election season. Fuck off Elon go play with your super smart H1bs and onlyfans incubators.
Posted by: Cmonman at June 05, 2025 03:19 PM (FGZau)
217
Dunno about the rest of you, but I'm thoroughly black-pilled on our nation's survival.
Posted by: mea culpa at June 05, 2025 03:19 PM (BCrZO)
218
What does Blake Lively have to say about this?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 05, 2025 03:19 PM (0sNs1)
219
Trump must've fucked one of Elon's women.
Posted by: Mark1971 at June 05, 2025 03:19 PM (Vj4xA)
220
Trump says his new policy prescriptions coupled with the BBB will lead to such spectacular growth that $41 trillion will seem trivial. Of course populations in western countries are following the same demographic path as Japan, so it's not completely clear how much growth we should expect or for how long.
Posted by: Oglebay at June 05, 2025 03:19 PM (2ap+5)
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@elonmusk
·
1m
Time to drop the really big bomb:
@realDonaldTrump
is in the Epstein files. That is the real reason they have not been made public.
Have a nice day, DJT!
BOOM
Well. I guess we can rule out Kayfabe.
Posted by: garrett at June 05, 2025 03:15 PM (hJb7m)
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I guess so. This is really makes it really hard to kiss and make up.
·
1m
Time to drop the really big bomb:
@realDonaldTrump
is in the Epstein files. That is the real reason they have not been made public.
Have a nice day, DJT!
BOOM
Well. I guess we can rule out Kayfabe.
Posted by: garrett at June 05, 2025 03:15 PM (hJb7m)
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I guess so. This is really makes it really hard to kiss and make up.
Posted by: WisRich at June 05, 2025 03:19 PM (G0vdT)
222
How the weather in Brattleboro, Harriet?
Posted by: Since you're here at June 05, 2025 03:19 PM (hpQri)
223
209 I'll hold off believing this until its confirmed.
Posted by: Crusader at June 05, 2025 03:18 PM (TN0g+)
I checked Elon's twitter, yes it's real.
Posted by: Crusader at June 05, 2025 03:18 PM (TN0g+)
I checked Elon's twitter, yes it's real.
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 05, 2025 03:19 PM (IFJVl)
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At this juuncture, I could give two shits about the debt. This reconncilation package has serious border security and immigration enforcement. It is probably our last chance to get that passed without compromising with the Dems (Amnesty).
I was willing to forgive Musk over the Christmas holiday spazz-out over H1-B visas (remember he said the opponents to H1-Bs needed to be purged from the party?) but this is the too much. This bill delivers much of the remaining campaign promises Trump made during the campaign. Trump did not run on a small government platform and neithter did his base vote for him for balanced budgets.
Let a future Democrat White House make the bad choice between massive tax increases or cutting entitlements in order to deal with the unavaodable debt bomb.
At this juuncture, I could give two shits about the debt. This reconncilation package has serious border security and immigration enforcement. It is probably our last chance to get that passed without compromising with the Dems (Amnesty).
I was willing to forgive Musk over the Christmas holiday spazz-out over H1-B visas (remember he said the opponents to H1-Bs needed to be purged from the party?) but this is the too much. This bill delivers much of the remaining campaign promises Trump made during the campaign. Trump did not run on a small government platform and neithter did his base vote for him for balanced budgets.
Let a future Democrat White House make the bad choice between massive tax increases or cutting entitlements in order to deal with the unavaodable debt bomb.
Posted by: Serious Cat at June 05, 2025 03:20 PM (TaHi/)
225
That's Trump's strength and weakness. Trump is not the movement - he's the figurehead of the movement. As such, he doesn't want challenged. But also, the movement's followers don't just want to blindly get marched off of a cliff. Are we actually cutting spending, and reducing debt to income ratio, or are we cutting Program A so you can piss the money away on Program B?
Just take the dispute to a Federal Judge. They can solve everything with a preliminary injunction.
Just take the dispute to a Federal Judge. They can solve everything with a preliminary injunction.
Posted by: Juris Doctor Doom at June 05, 2025 03:20 PM (i6shs)
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Well that ought to do it.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 05, 2025 03:20 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: garrett at June 05, 2025 03:20 PM (hJb7m)
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youtu.be/MYQCb3qrBpo
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 05, 2025 03:20 PM (sAmhv)
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217 Dunno about the rest of you, but I'm thoroughly black-pilled on our nation's survival.
Posted by: mea culpa at June 05, 2025 03:19 PM (BCrZO)
Managed decline.
Posted by: mea culpa at June 05, 2025 03:19 PM (BCrZO)
Managed decline.
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 05, 2025 03:20 PM (IFJVl)
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This isn't at his site.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 05, 2025 03:17 PM
-- --
He might have deleted it, he's done it before when he's realized he's screwed up in a moment of anger.
But if he did go that route, it's not going to be pretty.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 05, 2025 03:17 PM
-- --
He might have deleted it, he's done it before when he's realized he's screwed up in a moment of anger.
But if he did go that route, it's not going to be pretty.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 05, 2025 03:20 PM (6ydKt)
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226 Well that ought to do it.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 05, 2025 03:20 PM (viF8m)
What the hell is going on ?
Posted by: JackStraw at June 05, 2025 03:20 PM (viF8m)
What the hell is going on ?
Posted by: It's me donna at June 05, 2025 03:21 PM (VE6XX)
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Well. I guess we can rule out Kayfabe.
Posted by: garrett at June 05, 2025 03:15 PM (hJb7m)
Funny I think the opposite. It's like cartoon WWE now.
Posted by: garrett at June 05, 2025 03:15 PM (hJb7m)
Funny I think the opposite. It's like cartoon WWE now.
Posted by: ... at June 05, 2025 03:21 PM (b6zgo)
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It looks like the iSpace Hakuto-R MR-2 lander didn't align its AE-35 antenna correctly to communicate with Earth. No telemetry from the lander for several minutes.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 05, 2025 03:21 PM (VNX3d)
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"Without me, Trump would have lost the election," Musk said on X. "Such ingratitude."
*******
This smacks of "I remember the good old days when if you bought a politician he stayed 'bought'."
*******
This smacks of "I remember the good old days when if you bought a politician he stayed 'bought'."
Posted by: muldoon at June 05, 2025 03:21 PM (/iMjX)
235
Not a surprise. Nothing ever changes, including the fact that government only grows and grows and grows.
Posted by: brak at June 05, 2025 03:22 PM (jGJov)
236
Elon Musk
@elonmusk
·
1m
Time to drop the really big bomb:
@realDonaldTrump
is in the Epstein files. That is the real reason they have not been made public.
Have a nice day, DJT!
Good gravy.
Posted by: Piper at June 05, 2025 03:12 PM (pZEOD)
LFG!
@elonmusk
·
1m
Time to drop the really big bomb:
@realDonaldTrump
is in the Epstein files. That is the real reason they have not been made public.
Have a nice day, DJT!
Good gravy.
Posted by: Piper at June 05, 2025 03:12 PM (pZEOD)
LFG!
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 05, 2025 03:22 PM (i24o9)
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I blame the trio in Kentucky for what's about to happen in addition to Musk.
Posted by: polynikes at June 05, 2025 03:22 PM (VofaG)
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No; I find it ridiculous that Trump would be part of the Epstein stuff.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 05, 2025 03:22 PM (EJtBU)
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"And listen, I never thought there would be a day that I would agree with Elon on anything, but that’s where we are."
"Honestly, it is like it’s ingrained in who Democrats are is that we actually care and we love and we want to take care of everybody and that’s why we got this big tent party and we all over the place.”
-- Jasmine Crockett (D-TX, no relation to Davy)
"Honestly, it is like it’s ingrained in who Democrats are is that we actually care and we love and we want to take care of everybody and that’s why we got this big tent party and we all over the place.”
-- Jasmine Crockett (D-TX, no relation to Davy)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 05, 2025 03:22 PM (0sNs1)
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>>What the hell is going on ?
No idea but I don't what we are seeing is the whole story.
How the hell would Elon know what's in the Epstein files?
No idea but I don't what we are seeing is the whole story.
How the hell would Elon know what's in the Epstein files?
Posted by: JackStraw at June 05, 2025 03:23 PM (viF8m)
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Melania to wear a microskirt uniform in a supporting role?
Posted by: Auspex at June 05, 2025 03:13 PM
And a Yeoman Rand hairdo?
I'll be in my bunk.
Posted by: Auspex at June 05, 2025 03:13 PM
And a Yeoman Rand hairdo?
I'll be in my bunk.
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 05, 2025 03:23 PM (Aqu9a)
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223 209 I'll hold off believing this until its confirmed.
Posted by: Crusader at June 05, 2025 03:18 PM (TN0g+)
I checked Elon's twitter, yes it's real.
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 05, 2025 03
And he just double downed….my x account is lighting up like the 4th of July right now.
Posted by: Crusader at June 05, 2025 03:18 PM (TN0g+)
I checked Elon's twitter, yes it's real.
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 05, 2025 03
And he just double downed….my x account is lighting up like the 4th of July right now.
Posted by: Piper at June 05, 2025 03:23 PM (pZEOD)
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Social Security and Medicare will both be automatically cut when the (notional) trust funds run dry. Spending will then be limited to FICA tax receipts.
Posted by: Oglebay at June 05, 2025 03:23 PM (2ap+5)
244
The white hats'll win in the end. Yadda yadda.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at June 05
What is your idea? And how does it pass?
Posted by: Piper at June 05, 2025 03:11 PM (pZEOD)
Right. So unless I have a surefire way to herd those cats in the GOP and pass a "better" bill I should just accept that this is the best our best and brightest can do and shut up.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at June 05
What is your idea? And how does it pass?
Posted by: Piper at June 05, 2025 03:11 PM (pZEOD)
Right. So unless I have a surefire way to herd those cats in the GOP and pass a "better" bill I should just accept that this is the best our best and brightest can do and shut up.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at June 05, 2025 03:23 PM (FCbAQ)
Posted by: Methos at June 05, 2025 03:23 PM (Dnobf)
Posted by: Piper at June 05, 2025 03:23 PM (pZEOD)
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Not saying it is 4d chess but maybe just maybe they want Elon Musk playing bad cop from the outside .
Posted by: steevy
Could be. (Also, does the Left love him again?) Trump does something similar. Appears to accept a Lefty premise or narrative, and then helps them accelerate it right into a bridge abutment.
Posted by: steevy
Could be. (Also, does the Left love him again?) Trump does something similar. Appears to accept a Lefty premise or narrative, and then helps them accelerate it right into a bridge abutment.
Posted by: t-bird at June 05, 2025 03:24 PM (QHX6R)
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216 Yeah Trumps totally in the epstein files guise I'm super cereal.
Like that wouldn't have been leaked a million times over during election season. Fuck off Elon go play with your super smart H1bs and onlyfans incubators.
Also, those Epstein files have long been deleted, erased, burned, shredded, encased in concrete, and dropped at the bottom of the Marianas Trench. They're long gone.
Like that wouldn't have been leaked a million times over during election season. Fuck off Elon go play with your super smart H1bs and onlyfans incubators.
Also, those Epstein files have long been deleted, erased, burned, shredded, encased in concrete, and dropped at the bottom of the Marianas Trench. They're long gone.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 05, 2025 03:24 PM (sAmhv)
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 05, 2025 03:24 PM (i24o9)
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Jeepers.
The left has to be out of their minds happy right now.
Have all the adults left the room? Is this the point where everyone gets shitfaced and burned the whole thing to the ground?
The left has to be out of their minds happy right now.
Have all the adults left the room? Is this the point where everyone gets shitfaced and burned the whole thing to the ground?
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 05, 2025 03:24 PM (3bwc/)
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@elonmusk
·
1m
Time to drop the really big bomb:
@realDonaldTrump
is in the Epstein files. That is the real reason they have not been made public.
Have a nice day, DJT!
===============
I thought it was already known that Trump was in a flight log.
If there was anything more, Christopher Wray or Merrick Garland would have detonated it hardddd.
@elonmusk
·
1m
Time to drop the really big bomb:
@realDonaldTrump
is in the Epstein files. That is the real reason they have not been made public.
Have a nice day, DJT!
===============
I thought it was already known that Trump was in a flight log.
If there was anything more, Christopher Wray or Merrick Garland would have detonated it hardddd.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 05, 2025 03:24 PM (H4vqY)
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How the hell would Elon know what's in the Epstein files?
Posted by: JackStraw at June 05, 2025 03:23 PM (viF8m)
I doubt he would.. If anything was there I'd imagine it would have come out years ago... I think it's more a "I know you are but what am I. " thing...
Posted by: JackStraw at June 05, 2025 03:23 PM (viF8m)
I doubt he would.. If anything was there I'd imagine it would have come out years ago... I think it's more a "I know you are but what am I. " thing...
Posted by: It's me donna at June 05, 2025 03:24 PM (VE6XX)
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Yeah, it's there now, with this added:
Elon Musk
@elonmusk
·
3m
Mark this post for the future. The truth will come out.
Elon Musk
@elonmusk
·
3m
Mark this post for the future. The truth will come out.
Posted by: Methos at June 05, 2025 03:24 PM (Dnobf)
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No; I find it ridiculous that Trump would be part of the Epstein stuff.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 05, 2025 03:22 PM (EJtBU)
No more ridiculous than Elon being privy to it and absolutely nobody else in the media or government who hates Trump.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 05, 2025 03:22 PM (EJtBU)
No more ridiculous than Elon being privy to it and absolutely nobody else in the media or government who hates Trump.
Posted by: ... at June 05, 2025 03:24 PM (b6zgo)
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240 >>What the hell is going on ?
No idea but I don't what we are seeing is the whole story.
How the hell would Elon know what's in the Epstein files?
Posted by: JackStraw at June 05, 2025 03:23 PM (viF8m)
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The DOGE Tech bros.
No idea but I don't what we are seeing is the whole story.
How the hell would Elon know what's in the Epstein files?
Posted by: JackStraw at June 05, 2025 03:23 PM (viF8m)
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The DOGE Tech bros.
Posted by: WisRich at June 05, 2025 03:24 PM (G0vdT)
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And he just double downed….my x account is lighting up like the 4th of July right now.
Posted by: Piper at June 05, 2025 03:23 PM
This is all so crazy.
And he just double downed….my x account is lighting up like the 4th of July right now.
Posted by: Piper at June 05, 2025 03:23 PM
This is all so crazy.
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 05, 2025 03:25 PM (IFJVl)
257
Worst day for fascism since D-Day. Great day for America when this evil tag team falls! Excellent!!!
Posted by: Sid at June 05, 2025 03:25 PM (ZRA1e)
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"Is it time to create a new political party in America that actually represents the 80% in the middle?"
Assume the election in 2028 is Vance vs Newsom.
Forming a third party around spending cuts gets you Newsom and you lose. You lose everything.
Now at the congressional level this makes more sense. I would like to see a conservative/taxpayer/Muskovite whatever party that will endorse GOP candidates when they are good candidates and run candidates in the primaries AND general when they are not.
Assume the election in 2028 is Vance vs Newsom.
Forming a third party around spending cuts gets you Newsom and you lose. You lose everything.
Now at the congressional level this makes more sense. I would like to see a conservative/taxpayer/Muskovite whatever party that will endorse GOP candidates when they are good candidates and run candidates in the primaries AND general when they are not.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 05, 2025 03:25 PM (t0Rmr)
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This is getting messy. I knew it would come but not this soon and so fast.
This is getting messy. I knew it would come but not this soon and so fast.
Posted by: Frank Barone at June 05, 2025 03:25 PM (IifOV)
260
When do the food stamp funds run out?
Posted by: I gotta ask at June 05, 2025 03:25 PM (hpQri)
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Posted by: OneEyedJack at June 05, 2025 03:23 PM (FCbAQ)
You don't look at the big picture do you?
You don't look at the big picture do you?
Posted by: polynikes at June 05, 2025 03:25 PM (VofaG)
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The harsh facts are that to do what Musk wants to do, and arguably what needs doing, would require Trump to stage a military coup, impose martial law, and imprison most of Congress and the judiciary.
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Posted by: Methos at June 05, 2025 03:26 PM (Dnobf)
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LMAO
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 05, 2025 03:24 PM (i24o9)
IKR
This may be the best politics has been since around 1985.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 05, 2025 03:24 PM (i24o9)
IKR
This may be the best politics has been since around 1985.
Posted by: ... at June 05, 2025 03:26 PM (b6zgo)
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This isn't at his site.
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It was there a minute ago, maybe he deleted it.
Posted by: Methos
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There will be a screen grab if it happened.
If Musk actually xeeted it, then what did he know and when did he know it?
This isn't at his site.
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It was there a minute ago, maybe he deleted it.
Posted by: Methos
===============
There will be a screen grab if it happened.
If Musk actually xeeted it, then what did he know and when did he know it?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 05, 2025 03:26 PM (H4vqY)
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NOOD Musk X
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 05, 2025 03:26 PM (VNX3d)
Posted by: bonhomme at June 05, 2025 03:26 PM (lIio7)
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>>The DOGE Tech bros.
They weren't given access to confidential files. There job was cost cutting not digging into DOJ evidence files.
If Trump was in the Epstein files why didn't the Biden administration leak it?
They weren't given access to confidential files. There job was cost cutting not digging into DOJ evidence files.
If Trump was in the Epstein files why didn't the Biden administration leak it?
Posted by: JackStraw at June 05, 2025 03:27 PM (viF8m)
268
Boy, that escalated quickly. I mean that really got out of hand fast!
Posted by: WisRich at June 05, 2025 03:27 PM (G0vdT)
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Hate to say it, but I understand how Musk feels.
You are asked to put your life on hold, and sacrifice for your country... and you succeed. Then POLITICIANS make all your work meaningless, as they declare defeat in the face of victory.
For me, it was all the shit I did in the Military... I still hate Ron Reagan for how he treated those of us in Lebanon in 83... how the folks who were supposed to relieve us on station, instead got a cake walk in Grenada... and we were extended... for a PR stunt.
Or how I hate Daddy Bush for not letting us finish Iraq in Storm...
Politics becomes personal... when its YOU who are directly affected.
You are asked to put your life on hold, and sacrifice for your country... and you succeed. Then POLITICIANS make all your work meaningless, as they declare defeat in the face of victory.
For me, it was all the shit I did in the Military... I still hate Ron Reagan for how he treated those of us in Lebanon in 83... how the folks who were supposed to relieve us on station, instead got a cake walk in Grenada... and we were extended... for a PR stunt.
Or how I hate Daddy Bush for not letting us finish Iraq in Storm...
Politics becomes personal... when its YOU who are directly affected.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 05, 2025 03:27 PM (mP0Kj)
270
Yikes. The more Musk opens his yap, the lower TSLA goes.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 05, 2025 03:27 PM (i24o9)
271
Mom and Dad are fighting.
Posted by: Big Star
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And now Mom is accusing Dad of being a pedo.
Mom and Dad are fighting.
Posted by: Big Star
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And now Mom is accusing Dad of being a pedo.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 05, 2025 03:27 PM (H4vqY)
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At this juncture, I could give two shits about the debt.
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It's the stupidest of stupid things to get stupid over.
It ain't getting paid back. I just don't understand how anyone can think that.
At best--as best!--we can lower interest rates, grow the economy and manage it to scale it back where we can breathe a little.
But it ain't getting paid.
This ain't you sitting 'round the kitchen table with the spouse, pouring through your bills and figuring if you cut back with more Hamburger Helper, you can pay off the Discover card in 25 months.
Stop thinking somehow there's some way we're gonna scrimp and save our way out of this--that's debt:
This is indenture.
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It's the stupidest of stupid things to get stupid over.
It ain't getting paid back. I just don't understand how anyone can think that.
At best--as best!--we can lower interest rates, grow the economy and manage it to scale it back where we can breathe a little.
But it ain't getting paid.
This ain't you sitting 'round the kitchen table with the spouse, pouring through your bills and figuring if you cut back with more Hamburger Helper, you can pay off the Discover card in 25 months.
Stop thinking somehow there's some way we're gonna scrimp and save our way out of this--that's debt:
This is indenture.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 05, 2025 03:27 PM (KhUhr)
273
Oh please
Four flights in 93 and 94. Came out during the Maxwell trial. Wasn't alone - had a group with him.
It doesn't amaze me anymore - the things people don't know when it works contrary to all the things they know they know.
Four flights in 93 and 94. Came out during the Maxwell trial. Wasn't alone - had a group with him.
It doesn't amaze me anymore - the things people don't know when it works contrary to all the things they know they know.
Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 05, 2025 03:28 PM (jQTUu)
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Good feeling gone.
Posted by: rechill at June 05, 2025 03:29 PM (K1zyu)
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This all looks like Kafabe to me now.
Like an episode of 1990's WWE.
Someone is getting their nose stuffed in a butt soon.
Like an episode of 1990's WWE.
Someone is getting their nose stuffed in a butt soon.
Posted by: Reforger at June 05, 2025 03:29 PM (xcIvR)
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>>> 251
@elonmusk
·
1m
Time to drop the really big bomb:
@realDonaldTrump
is in the Epstein files. That is the real reason they have not been made public.
Have a nice day, DJT!
===============
I thought it was already known that Trump was in a flight log.
If there was anything more, Christopher Wray or Merrick Garland would have detonated it hardddd.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 05, 2025 03:24 PM (H4vqY)
iirc, OrangeManBad took a flight on one of Jeffy's planes from NYC to FL when his own jet had broken down.
@elonmusk
·
1m
Time to drop the really big bomb:
@realDonaldTrump
is in the Epstein files. That is the real reason they have not been made public.
Have a nice day, DJT!
===============
I thought it was already known that Trump was in a flight log.
If there was anything more, Christopher Wray or Merrick Garland would have detonated it hardddd.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 05, 2025 03:24 PM (H4vqY)
iirc, OrangeManBad took a flight on one of Jeffy's planes from NYC to FL when his own jet had broken down.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 05, 2025 03:29 PM (QRFVs)
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'This what Musk is pissed about. Trump went back on his word.
lon Musk@elonmusk 20m
This is what he said about Jared
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
4 Dec 2024
I am delighted to nominate Jared Isaacman, an accomplished business leader, philanthropist, pilot, and astronaut, as Administrator of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). Jared will drive NASA’s mission of discovery and inspiration, paving the way for groundbreaking achievements in Space science, technology, and exploration.
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Musk pushed for Jared very much and Trump went back on his word. Nicole Shanahan has said much the same about appointment of Surgeon General and miss-directions around Bobby Kennedy's decisions.
lon Musk@elonmusk 20m
This is what he said about Jared
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
4 Dec 2024
I am delighted to nominate Jared Isaacman, an accomplished business leader, philanthropist, pilot, and astronaut, as Administrator of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). Jared will drive NASA’s mission of discovery and inspiration, paving the way for groundbreaking achievements in Space science, technology, and exploration.
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Musk pushed for Jared very much and Trump went back on his word. Nicole Shanahan has said much the same about appointment of Surgeon General and miss-directions around Bobby Kennedy's decisions.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 05, 2025 03:29 PM (vWeTL)
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Yeah Trumps totally in the epstein files guise I'm super cereal.
Like that wouldn't have been leaked a million times over during election season. Fuck off Elon go play with your super smart H1bs and onlyfans incubators.
Also, those Epstein files have long been deleted, erased, burned, shredded, encased in concrete, and dropped at the bottom of the Marianas Trench. They're long gone.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 05, 2025 03:24 PM (sAmhv)
So, like, it's OK to trash space daddy here now? Asking for a friend.
Like that wouldn't have been leaked a million times over during election season. Fuck off Elon go play with your super smart H1bs and onlyfans incubators.
Also, those Epstein files have long been deleted, erased, burned, shredded, encased in concrete, and dropped at the bottom of the Marianas Trench. They're long gone.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 05, 2025 03:24 PM (sAmhv)
So, like, it's OK to trash space daddy here now? Asking for a friend.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 05, 2025 03:29 PM (i24o9)
279
It's getting nasty out there.
POLITICO@politico
Fellow NYC mayoral candidates came out swinging against Cuomo in tonight's debate.
“The people who don’t feel safe are the young women, mothers and grandmothers around Andrew Cuomo,” said opponent Michael Blake.
POLITICO@politico
Fellow NYC mayoral candidates came out swinging against Cuomo in tonight's debate.
“The people who don’t feel safe are the young women, mothers and grandmothers around Andrew Cuomo,” said opponent Michael Blake.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not at June 05, 2025 03:29 PM (L/fGl)
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Trump is selling his voters out. His "Big Bullshit Bill" cuts 1/2 a days spending (but "future cuts!!!, aka shit that'll never happen). then he sends Miss Lyndsey and Da Nang Dick to Ukraine at the same time Ukraine launches an attack deep inside Russia using American Technology.
I'm glad Trump can't run again, he wouldn't get my vote a 4th time.
What Musk tried to do for the American people cost him $billions personally, and Musk has every right to be pissed off. Why not just say F it, if they aren't going to cut spending, then give the subsidies back.
I'm glad Trump can't run again, he wouldn't get my vote a 4th time.
What Musk tried to do for the American people cost him $billions personally, and Musk has every right to be pissed off. Why not just say F it, if they aren't going to cut spending, then give the subsidies back.
Posted by: TC at June 05, 2025 03:29 PM (xLPIb)
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Musk has been consistent about subsidies: he says there should be no subsidies for EVs but also no subsidies for oil production. He's confident that EV technology is now good enough to survive on a level playing field.
Politics is the art of the possible. I see the argument for accepting small wins we can actually get.
But I also see that there is so much horrible spending that we should never need another debt ceiling raise. Congress needs to actually cut spending before it's too late.
Note, Tesla stock price dropped on the news. I wish I had some spare money to buy the stock... I expect it to rise later this year due to robotaxi technology. NFA but I believe it.
Politics is the art of the possible. I see the argument for accepting small wins we can actually get.
But I also see that there is so much horrible spending that we should never need another debt ceiling raise. Congress needs to actually cut spending before it's too late.
Note, Tesla stock price dropped on the news. I wish I had some spare money to buy the stock... I expect it to rise later this year due to robotaxi technology. NFA but I believe it.
Posted by: mr_jack at June 05, 2025 03:31 PM (qO9hU)
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There's three ways the debt like ours gets paid:
1) Default
2) Deflation
3) War, massive worldwide war.
So, if those thinking we MUST pay it off would at least say, "yeah this really, really shitty thing that is going to be really, really shitty for almost everyone for a really, really long time is a damned good idea" then we can get on with it.
Even if we cut $1 trillion from the budget, that just means we're not borrowing a trillion dollars--it doesn't free up a trillion dollars to pay the debt.
1) Default
2) Deflation
3) War, massive worldwide war.
So, if those thinking we MUST pay it off would at least say, "yeah this really, really shitty thing that is going to be really, really shitty for almost everyone for a really, really long time is a damned good idea" then we can get on with it.
Even if we cut $1 trillion from the budget, that just means we're not borrowing a trillion dollars--it doesn't free up a trillion dollars to pay the debt.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 05, 2025 03:34 PM (KhUhr)
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This is what happens when you fuck a stranger in the ass!
Posted by: Walter Sobchak at June 05, 2025 03:34 PM (PxmHT)
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I can watch their public statements. Who DIDN'T he piss off first time through ? Flynn and Huckabee Sanders. The most loyal guy - Bannon - was the first one fired. I guess because he didn't look good in a suit.
Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 05, 2025 03:05 PM
bannon got fired because he could not quit running his mouth when he should have been keeping it shut.
Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 05, 2025 03:05 PM
bannon got fired because he could not quit running his mouth when he should have been keeping it shut.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 05, 2025 03:35 PM (e5NfL)
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So now Musk is hated by everyone.
Posted by: Deb Reckoning at June 05, 2025 03:36 PM (qUkBO)
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Posted by: OneEyedJack at June 05, 2025 03:23 PM (FCbAQ)
You don't look at the big picture do you?
Posted by: polynikes at June 05, 2025 03:25 PM (VofaG)
Lol.
If you think my skepticism is totally unwarranted, then you give me your idea of the "big Picture" that I'm missing.
I do know that many people in DC and many in the GOP make a living by lying. I do know we've been lied to for years, decades even.
Yet now, I'm missing the big picture because I choose the option of "they might be lying to us again".
You are not cynical enough.
You don't look at the big picture do you?
Posted by: polynikes at June 05, 2025 03:25 PM (VofaG)
Lol.
If you think my skepticism is totally unwarranted, then you give me your idea of the "big Picture" that I'm missing.
I do know that many people in DC and many in the GOP make a living by lying. I do know we've been lied to for years, decades even.
Yet now, I'm missing the big picture because I choose the option of "they might be lying to us again".
You are not cynical enough.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at June 05, 2025 03:37 PM (FCbAQ)
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So, like, it's OK to trash space daddy here now? Asking for a friend.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 05, 2025 03:29 PM (i24o9)
I think you can trash anyone that betrays you but to do it beforehand just because you don't like them is stupid. Like NeverTrumpers.
But Musk was on board with the agenda and now has done a 180 and is attempting to destroy Trump. And it's not Trump I'm worried about but his agenda.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 05, 2025 03:29 PM (i24o9)
I think you can trash anyone that betrays you but to do it beforehand just because you don't like them is stupid. Like NeverTrumpers.
But Musk was on board with the agenda and now has done a 180 and is attempting to destroy Trump. And it's not Trump I'm worried about but his agenda.
Posted by: polynikes at June 05, 2025 03:37 PM (VofaG)
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ol.
If you think my skepticism is totally unwarranted, then you give me your idea of the "big Picture" that I'm missing.
I do know that many people in DC and many in the GOP make a living by lying. I do know we've been lied to for years, decades even.
Yet now, I'm missing the big picture because I choose the option of "they might be lying to us again".
You are not cynical enough.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at June 05, 2025 03:37 PM (FCbAQ)
The big picture includes illegal immigration, voter integrity, eliminating DEI and trans activism.
If you think my skepticism is totally unwarranted, then you give me your idea of the "big Picture" that I'm missing.
I do know that many people in DC and many in the GOP make a living by lying. I do know we've been lied to for years, decades even.
Yet now, I'm missing the big picture because I choose the option of "they might be lying to us again".
You are not cynical enough.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at June 05, 2025 03:37 PM (FCbAQ)
The big picture includes illegal immigration, voter integrity, eliminating DEI and trans activism.
Posted by: polynikes at June 05, 2025 03:39 PM (VofaG)
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272 At this juncture, I could give two shits about the debt.
---
It's the stupidest of stupid things to get stupid over.
It ain't getting paid back. I just don't understand how anyone can think that.
At best--as best!--we can lower interest rates, grow the economy and manage it to scale it back where we can breathe a little.
But it ain't getting paid.
......
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 05, 2025 03:27 PM (KhUhr)
Nor would you want to pay off the debt. Having nations around the world holding US. Bonds is neccesary to keep the US. Dollar as the world's reserve currency.
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It's the stupidest of stupid things to get stupid over.
It ain't getting paid back. I just don't understand how anyone can think that.
At best--as best!--we can lower interest rates, grow the economy and manage it to scale it back where we can breathe a little.
But it ain't getting paid.
......
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 05, 2025 03:27 PM (KhUhr)
Nor would you want to pay off the debt. Having nations around the world holding US. Bonds is neccesary to keep the US. Dollar as the world's reserve currency.
Posted by: Serious Cat at June 05, 2025 03:44 PM (TaHi/)
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IDK- they’re both showmen and hucksters (no insult intended). The whole kerfuffle seems just a bit too WWF to me,
Posted by: Farmer Bob at June 05, 2025 03:49 PM (hlNLQ)
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Perhaps Trump should hire Bondi's Dancing Influencers to push the "Big Bullshit Bill". They could dance on the Capitol steps waving empty binders full of non-existent spending cuts. It worked so well for the Epstein files.
Posted by: TC at June 05, 2025 03:56 PM (xLPIb)
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Musk is right.
The USA cannot go on spending like it is. It's potentially existential.
This is a fight Trump should pick. I think he has the sway to send any of the RINOs to the unemployment line, but, the longer he tries to manage that situation his influence diminishes.
I think he should also be forcing those opposed to cuts to defend their position publicly. In the open most of this spending is indefensible and taxpayers must be made to feel like they are being ripped off.
The USA cannot go on spending like it is. It's potentially existential.
This is a fight Trump should pick. I think he has the sway to send any of the RINOs to the unemployment line, but, the longer he tries to manage that situation his influence diminishes.
I think he should also be forcing those opposed to cuts to defend their position publicly. In the open most of this spending is indefensible and taxpayers must be made to feel like they are being ripped off.
Posted by: stv at June 05, 2025 03:57 PM (+opPw)
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Honestly, I only figured Trump would pull it off for the entire four years with the aid of Musk and other 'financially secure' like minded individuals - and Steven Miller, of course.
And where does that leave Musk's people as feds, assigned to do specific jobs? Without those people as a sort of broad Federal watchdog organization, we can forget ever reining in any spending, any dangerous programs, any half witted healthcare system, etc.
Also see 36, above.
Truth.
Not just the older white dems are in danger from their party. When the blinders fall, it'll be too late.
Yeah, I'm one of the fools who believed "We Won't get Fooled Again."
And where does that leave Musk's people as feds, assigned to do specific jobs? Without those people as a sort of broad Federal watchdog organization, we can forget ever reining in any spending, any dangerous programs, any half witted healthcare system, etc.
Also see 36, above.
Truth.
Not just the older white dems are in danger from their party. When the blinders fall, it'll be too late.
Yeah, I'm one of the fools who believed "We Won't get Fooled Again."
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 05, 2025 03:59 PM (NFX2v)
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Forget it Elon, it's DC.
Posted by: fd at June 05, 2025 04:14 PM (vFG9F)
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New party? We don’t have parliamentary politics here, Elon, and we don’t do run-off elections. We cannot have a third party, unless it cannibalizes one of the other two, and I mean immediately.
Posted by: Best Thief in Lankhmar at June 05, 2025 04:20 PM (64rer)
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STOP WHING MUSK
Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at June 05, 2025 05:03 PM (wGqjj)
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#295 The Uniparty holds that that over our heads. "You can't challenge me... you will only split votes between me and your new candidate and hand power to your political enemies." So they act like they can do whatever they want and we have to just take it. Is it so bad it's worth it now? I dunno, but it's... bad.
Posted by: mr_jack at June 05, 2025 05:07 PM (qO9hU)
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FFS.
I witnessed the stunningly sorry care of my mother and sister in Florida, including by State administered Peer Programs & assisted living facilities, during the Scott/Bondi reign.
How many Floridians stole from parents, other relatives, and charges in their responsibility when it came to SS, pensions, and possessions, and also made shady deals to stash them into "nursing homes" & private boarding facilities?
Too many to prosecute in the required "timely manner."
There are no gods and goddesses running the government.
I witnessed the stunningly sorry care of my mother and sister in Florida, including by State administered Peer Programs & assisted living facilities, during the Scott/Bondi reign.
How many Floridians stole from parents, other relatives, and charges in their responsibility when it came to SS, pensions, and possessions, and also made shady deals to stash them into "nursing homes" & private boarding facilities?
Too many to prosecute in the required "timely manner."
There are no gods and goddesses running the government.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 05, 2025 05:08 PM (NFX2v)
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Imagine being rejected by The View because you aren't sharp enough. That hurts.
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