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Wednesday Morning Rant
Communities that Democrats had come to count on for a generation or more -- young people, Black voters, Latinos -- all veered toward the right in 2024, some of them sharply. And unlike Mr. Trump's win in 2016, his victory last year could not be waved away as an outlier after he won the popular vote for the first time.The first lesson not learned: "waving it away as an outlier." They - the Dems, the GOP, the NGOs, the establishment across the board - wanted it to be an outlier. They wanted to believe that the "populist" - really, anti-establishment sentiment - surge was a flash in the pan. They wanted to believe their high-effort, high-stakes election "engineering" in 2020 was making the outcome match reality, not subverting reality to meet their expectations. They wanted to believe these things, so they did. They had the opportunity to learn a lesson, but chose not to.
Working-class voters of every race have been steadily drifting toward the G.O.P. And Democrats are increasingly perceived as the party of college-educated elites, the defenders of a political and economic system that most Americans feel is failing them.Gee whiz. That sounds a lot like across-the-board degradation of position as more and more people figure out that the party of cloistered ivory-tower lunatics isn't on their side. Shocking. Failing to detect that requires willful blindness, which the Dems (and the GOP, of course - other than the "Trump Wing," the GOP is no different) have in spades. But the response is particularly laughable.
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"We are losing support in vast swaths of the country, in rural America, in the Midwest, the places where I'm from," Mr. Crow continued.
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Even the gender gap -- which had long benefited Democrats -- helped Republicans in 2024 as men swung harder to the right.
It is code-named SAM -- short for "Speaking with American Men: A Strategic Plan" -- and promises investment to "study the syntax, language and content that gains attention and virality in these spaces."Notice a trend in any of that? This is all about perception, not reality (with the partial exception of "Ms. Shenker-Osorio," who is probably correct that the core Democrat voter does want more and bigger - though she misses the point that this effort is about getting more voters, not about appealing to a hard but shrinking core of ultra-progs). Study the "syntax" of the opposition so you can try to sound like them. Watch the "tone" you use to speak. Always be aware of your "messaging." These people have learned precisely nothing from the rise of Donald Trump. The lesson in Trump's rise, distilled to its essence, is "be authentic." No "messaging" massaging can be remotely helpful if you're obviously an inauthentic liar. Inauthentic lying is the coin of the realm in politics, so much so that virtually nobody noticed it until somebody chose to not do it. In the 2016 campaign, everyone went to the Iowa fair in their brand new blue jeans and flannel shirts - just like you rubes! It's what they all do. Except Trump, who showed up in his New York suit and his helicopter. He wasn't going to pretend to be a blue jeans and flannel guy (unlike Elizabeth Warren when she pretended to be a beer-drinker) for the rubes. Everyone pretends to be one of the rubes, "just one of the guys" and it's never true. In the presence of someone who does not do that, the strategy becomes completely untenable. The "messaging" is not the problem. The "syntax and language" is not the problem. The "tone" - moralizing or otherwise - is not the problem. The problem is not one of vocabulary and the problem is not the way the message is delivered. The problem is the message, not the messaging. Their message is crap, and the condescension, lying and inauthenticity are merely the foul icing on top. "You have original racial sin" is a crap message. "You have original sexual sin" is a crap message. "You are irredeemable and worthless" is a crap message. "Your place is to obey your betters because we own you" is a crap message. "Your beliefs are evil and you are stupid" is a crap message. "Reality is whatever we say it is" is a crap message. "Your kids belong to me" is a crap message. "You should be poor" is a crap message. "You should have no freedom" is a crap message. You can't polish this particular turd. Sure, the messaging sucks. It does. They are bad at messaging in part because they're so deeply rooted in the bizarre and cultish modern academic milieu, but their poor communication is not anything like as big of a problem as what they say and what they believe. The messaging may suck, but it doesn't suck nearly as much as the message itself. This absurd "SAM" thing is the equivalent of putting up a flashing neon sign that says, "WE REFUSE TO LEARN" over the DNC headquarters.
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"Above all, we must shift from a moralizing tone," it urges.
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He added that Democrats had "lost credibility by being seen as alien on cultural issues."
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Ms. Shenker-Osorio, the Democratic researcher and messaging consultant who holds regular focus groups, said Democratic voters today craved more action and less self-reflection.
Comments
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I'll let the others know.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at May 28, 2025 11:00 AM (O7YUW)
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Learning the wrong lesson on purpose is not forgivable but there is something still worse: refusing to learn at all.
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YOU'RE NOT MY SUPERVISOR!
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YOU'RE NOT MY SUPERVISOR!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 28, 2025 11:00 AM (GBKbO)
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Posted by: Vulgar Boatman at May 28, 2025 11:00 AM (G5+As)
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And first...
Posted by: Reforger at May 28, 2025 11:01 AM (xcIvR)
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You can't polish this particular turd. Sure, the messaging sucks. It does. They are bad at messaging in part because they're so deeply rooted in the bizarre and cultish modern academic milieu, but their poor communication is not anything like as big of a problem as what they say and what they believe. The messaging may suck, but it doesn't suck nearly as much as the message itself.
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I don't think the terrible messaging would be nearly as much of a problem if Democrats would simply give up open borders.
Bow to trannies all day, but keep the borders closed. It's a much stronger position.
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I don't think the terrible messaging would be nearly as much of a problem if Democrats would simply give up open borders.
Bow to trannies all day, but keep the borders closed. It's a much stronger position.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 28, 2025 11:02 AM (GBKbO)
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Not for nothing, but if I had the woman in the 'male performance gummies' ad, I wouldn't need the stuff.
Yes, I know - "someone somewhere sick of her shit" and all that.
Yes, I know - "someone somewhere sick of her shit" and all that.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at May 28, 2025 11:02 AM (Dg2sF)
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Just had to put those three dots in there, dinnint ya...
Posted by: Reforger at May 28, 2025 11:03 AM (xcIvR)
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Maybe they should hire actual men instead of hyphenated women. And no, Tim Walz does not count.
Posted by: NR Pax at May 28, 2025 11:03 AM (OPGS/)
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Democrats: "We reject your reality, and substitute our own."
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 28, 2025 11:03 AM (WPL6O)
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8 Maybe they should hire actual men instead of hyphenated women. And no, Tim Walz does not count.
Posted by: NR Pax at May 28, 2025 11:03 AM (OPGS/)
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The DNC is populated with girlbosses and cucked men.
Personnel is policy.
They're not going to change until someone from the outside forces them to.
Posted by: NR Pax at May 28, 2025 11:03 AM (OPGS/)
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The DNC is populated with girlbosses and cucked men.
Personnel is policy.
They're not going to change until someone from the outside forces them to.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 28, 2025 11:04 AM (GBKbO)
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9 Democrats: "We reject your reality, and substitute our own."
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 28, 2025 11:03 AM (WPL6O)
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Some rando 80s movie about a nerd by way of Mythbusters by way of BOTW.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 28, 2025 11:03 AM (WPL6O)
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Some rando 80s movie about a nerd by way of Mythbusters by way of BOTW.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 28, 2025 11:04 AM (GBKbO)
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6 Not for nothing, but if I had the woman in the 'male performance gummies' ad, I wouldn't need the stuff.
Yes, I know - "someone somewhere sick of her shit" and all that.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at May 28, 2025 11:02 AM (Dg2sF)
All that glitters is not gold is the way I would put it, MP4….
Yes, I know - "someone somewhere sick of her shit" and all that.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at May 28, 2025 11:02 AM (Dg2sF)
All that glitters is not gold is the way I would put it, MP4….
Posted by: tubal at May 28, 2025 11:04 AM (PCK5/)
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They - the Dems, the GOP, the NGOs, the establishment across the board - wanted it to be an outlier.
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Wish-casting is not just river in Egypt.
It's almost as if The Left is comprised of psychological and emotional infants. Almost ...
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Wish-casting is not just river in Egypt.
It's almost as if The Left is comprised of psychological and emotional infants. Almost ...
Posted by: ShainS at May 28, 2025 11:04 AM (jQOKi)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 28, 2025 11:06 AM (2UnvF)
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the problem for the DNC is too many people have figured out what their actual message is and no amount of rewriting the sales pitch will convince voters otherwise.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 28, 2025 11:06 AM (tT6L1)
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Simply put the Left are the Borg trying to figure out The Right which are moral but flawed individuals.
That the Borg doesn't understand Faith will never allow them to understand much of the Right.
That the Borg doesn't understand Faith will never allow them to understand much of the Right.
Posted by: polynikes at May 28, 2025 11:06 AM (VofaG)
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Dems will win again. It’s the nature of a 2 party system. And then they’ll think what they did worked. So they’ll do more of it.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 28, 2025 11:06 AM (Y7qnM)
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13 Wish-casting is not just river in Egypt.
It's almost as if The Left is comprised of psychological and emotional infants. Almost ...
Posted by: ShainS at May 28, 2025 11:04 AM (jQOKi)
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There's a theory that people who rise in prominence in politics never move past the moment that the rise occured.
A Democrat elected in 2008? It's all about the inevitable changes based on demography, no matter what.
A Republican elected in 2004? It's all about war for freedom abroad.
A Republican elected in the 80s? Russia bad.
I think it has validity to explain a lot of political behavior.
It's almost as if The Left is comprised of psychological and emotional infants. Almost ...
Posted by: ShainS at May 28, 2025 11:04 AM (jQOKi)
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There's a theory that people who rise in prominence in politics never move past the moment that the rise occured.
A Democrat elected in 2008? It's all about the inevitable changes based on demography, no matter what.
A Republican elected in 2004? It's all about war for freedom abroad.
A Republican elected in the 80s? Russia bad.
I think it has validity to explain a lot of political behavior.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 28, 2025 11:06 AM (GBKbO)
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Democratic voters today craved more action and less self-reflection.
Which, I guarantee you, does not mean action on what are quaintly called "lunch bucket issues." What it does mean is they want more Jasmine Crockett, turned up to 11 - more screams of racism, more foul language, more hatred of Trump, more whipping the proles to get in line.
Screaming, looting and burning is what Dems call "action."
Which, I guarantee you, does not mean action on what are quaintly called "lunch bucket issues." What it does mean is they want more Jasmine Crockett, turned up to 11 - more screams of racism, more foul language, more hatred of Trump, more whipping the proles to get in line.
Screaming, looting and burning is what Dems call "action."
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at May 28, 2025 11:06 AM (Dg2sF)
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This absurd "SAM" thing is the equivalent of putting up a flashing neon sign that says, "WE REFUSE TO LEARN" over the DNC headquarters.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
Come join the She-Ma'am Man Hating Club!
Posted by: Joe Mannix
Come join the She-Ma'am Man Hating Club!
Posted by: Tim "Spanky" Walz at May 28, 2025 11:06 AM (JCZqz)
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Thigh Gap>>>Gender Gap
Posted by: Discerning Gent at May 28, 2025 11:07 AM (G5+As)
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Nobody wants to be ruled by a lunatic mother in law. Who knew?
Posted by: Archimedes at May 28, 2025 11:07 AM (905rt)
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Look, if the Dems want to forever be Steve Buscemi in that old "hello, fellow kids" Snickers commercial I'm all for it.
Posted by: Octochicken at May 28, 2025 11:07 AM (oCS0o)
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They are not trying to 'learn'. They are trying to make the world match their perception of it.
You see this in so many things when you look at everything.
1) Their ideology is the core foundational principle of how the universe and people work.
2) They are the VAST majority.
These two things explain all of their actions. From shitty TV shows or games that are searching for this vast audience that never materializes to how easily they can justify every tyrannical thing they do from rigging elections to electing a figurehead invalid with that election (it's not tyrannical, the majority agrees with them.)
You see this in so many things when you look at everything.
1) Their ideology is the core foundational principle of how the universe and people work.
2) They are the VAST majority.
These two things explain all of their actions. From shitty TV shows or games that are searching for this vast audience that never materializes to how easily they can justify every tyrannical thing they do from rigging elections to electing a figurehead invalid with that election (it's not tyrannical, the majority agrees with them.)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 28, 2025 11:07 AM (bss/y)
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He added that Democrats had "lost credibility by being seen as alien on cultural issues."
Men in women's locker rooms.
Men "deeming" themselves to be women.
The list is long.
The chair is against the wall.
Men in women's locker rooms.
Men "deeming" themselves to be women.
The list is long.
The chair is against the wall.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 28, 2025 11:07 AM (159FE)
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19 Democratic voters today craved more action and less self-reflection.
Which, I guarantee you, does not mean action on what are quaintly called "lunch bucket issues." What it does mean is they want more Jasmine Crockett, turned up to 11 - more screams of racism, more foul language, more hatred of Trump, more whipping the proles to get in line.
Screaming, looting and burning is what Dems call "action."
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at May 28, 2025 11:06 AM (Dg2sF)
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Democrat candidates are going to continue to be pressured into demanding Trump's arrest and execution along with promises to arrest and execute everyone from the Trump administration.
Which, I guarantee you, does not mean action on what are quaintly called "lunch bucket issues." What it does mean is they want more Jasmine Crockett, turned up to 11 - more screams of racism, more foul language, more hatred of Trump, more whipping the proles to get in line.
Screaming, looting and burning is what Dems call "action."
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at May 28, 2025 11:06 AM (Dg2sF)
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Democrat candidates are going to continue to be pressured into demanding Trump's arrest and execution along with promises to arrest and execute everyone from the Trump administration.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 28, 2025 11:07 AM (GBKbO)
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I encourage the dems to keep with their playbook and spend billions of dollars.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 28, 2025 11:08 AM (NVNRw)
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As I said in the last thread, You can't just tell the insane not to be insane.
Posted by: polynikes at May 28, 2025 11:08 AM (VofaG)
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This is another point in why Harris will not be the nominee. They aren't going through all of this to turn around and have a loser run.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 28, 2025 11:08 AM (+OnsA)
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Old & Busted: Never interfere your enemy when they are in the process of destroying themselves.
New Hotness: Help your enemy all you can to destroy themselves.
We should all get behind and support this new innovative direction the donkey party is taking.
New Hotness: Help your enemy all you can to destroy themselves.
We should all get behind and support this new innovative direction the donkey party is taking.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at May 28, 2025 11:08 AM (17s+e)
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Screaming, looting and burning is what Dems call "action."
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at May 28, 2025 11:06 AM (Dg2sF)
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Strong arming votes doesn't play well with regular people?
Morning, sir!
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at May 28, 2025 11:06 AM (Dg2sF)
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Strong arming votes doesn't play well with regular people?
Morning, sir!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 28, 2025 11:08 AM (tT6L1)
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25 He added that Democrats had "lost credibility by being seen as alien on cultural issues."
Men in women's locker rooms.
Men "deeming" themselves to be women.
The list is long.
The chair is against the wall.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 28, 2025 11:07 AM (159FE)
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Remember, the best ad of the 2024 campaign, according to just about everyone (argument by authority) was the Trump ad that said: "Kamala is for Them. Trump is for you."
Men in women's locker rooms.
Men "deeming" themselves to be women.
The list is long.
The chair is against the wall.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 28, 2025 11:07 AM (159FE)
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Remember, the best ad of the 2024 campaign, according to just about everyone (argument by authority) was the Trump ad that said: "Kamala is for Them. Trump is for you."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 28, 2025 11:08 AM (GBKbO)
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Somewhere down the line there will be large scale violence in the country involving two sides wanting very different things… how is that unavoidable?? There is no common ground, yes?
Posted by: tubal at May 28, 2025 11:09 AM (PCK5/)
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In order to talk one must first stop yelling.
Posted by: Reforger at May 28, 2025 11:09 AM (xcIvR)
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It's bizarre how the Dems try to promote Tim Walz as ultra masculine. Dying Joe also tried really hard to act tough. Weird.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at May 28, 2025 11:09 AM (kTd/k)
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Democrat candidates are going to continue to be pressured into demanding Trump's arrest and execution along with promises to arrest and execute everyone from the Trump administration.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 28, 2025 11:07 AM (GBKbO)
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Which will happen, should they get the chance. The Biden Administration made it very clear. I don't think people really appreciate the courage needed to join the Trump administration.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 28, 2025 11:07 AM (GBKbO)
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Which will happen, should they get the chance. The Biden Administration made it very clear. I don't think people really appreciate the courage needed to join the Trump administration.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 28, 2025 11:10 AM (tT6L1)
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I thoroughly approve this Dem strategery and want them to continue it indefinitely.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at May 28, 2025 11:10 AM (6YdsJ)
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There's a theory that people who rise in prominence in politics never move past the moment that the rise occured.
A Democrat elected in 2008? It's all about the inevitable changes based on demography, no matter what.
A Republican elected in 2004? It's all about war for freedom abroad.
A Republican elected in the 80s? Russia bad.
I think it has validity to explain a lot of political behavior.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 28, 2025 11:06 AM (GBKbO)
Same can be said for voters. The issues of the day when you become politically engaged are your issues for life. Why just here on this smart military blog it’s still a biblical command that tax cuts for the ultra rich is a good thing and will create jobs. Or that maintaining 10000 bases worldwide is ended to stop some commie takeover of the world or some shit.
A Democrat elected in 2008? It's all about the inevitable changes based on demography, no matter what.
A Republican elected in 2004? It's all about war for freedom abroad.
A Republican elected in the 80s? Russia bad.
I think it has validity to explain a lot of political behavior.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 28, 2025 11:06 AM (GBKbO)
Same can be said for voters. The issues of the day when you become politically engaged are your issues for life. Why just here on this smart military blog it’s still a biblical command that tax cuts for the ultra rich is a good thing and will create jobs. Or that maintaining 10000 bases worldwide is ended to stop some commie takeover of the world or some shit.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 28, 2025 11:10 AM (Y7qnM)
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It's like Bob Dylan sang, The Times, They Are A-Lyin'
Forget Dead Soldiers: On Memorial Day, NYT Print Edition Commemorates … George Floyd?
Forget Dead Soldiers: On Memorial Day, NYT Print Edition Commemorates … George Floyd?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Available In Super Size! at May 28, 2025 11:10 AM (L/fGl)
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29 This is another point in why Harris will not be the nominee. They aren't going through all of this to turn around and have a loser run.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 28, 2025 11:08 AM (+OnsA)
My guess? They will try to pull another covid or some other sort of scare. Take the variability out of things and allow them to exert their will.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 28, 2025 11:08 AM (+OnsA)
My guess? They will try to pull another covid or some other sort of scare. Take the variability out of things and allow them to exert their will.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 28, 2025 11:10 AM (bss/y)
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I skimmed the first part of the article. Struck me that "Republican registration has been growing for "
Of course I thought. 'Yes, if the R's had Wanted to win and implement the MAGA plan, they could have made a lot of progress without Trump'. But they want to lose, being the minority party in DC is a very cushy gig for them.
Of course I thought. 'Yes, if the R's had Wanted to win and implement the MAGA plan, they could have made a lot of progress without Trump'. But they want to lose, being the minority party in DC is a very cushy gig for them.
Posted by: PaleRider at May 28, 2025 11:10 AM (CKOCg)
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"Democrats are increasingly perceived as the party of college-educated elites"
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Not elites, which they are not, but elitists. Which they all are.
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Not elites, which they are not, but elitists. Which they all are.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at May 28, 2025 11:11 AM (17s+e)
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Somewhere down the line there will be large scale violence in the country involving two sides wanting very different things… how is that unavoidable?? There is no common ground, yes?
Posted by: tubal
Nope, there is none.
At least, in the Civil War, as Lincoln noted in his 2d Inaugural, both sides prayed to the same God.
That is not the case today.
Posted by: tubal
Nope, there is none.
At least, in the Civil War, as Lincoln noted in his 2d Inaugural, both sides prayed to the same God.
That is not the case today.
Posted by: Bulg at May 28, 2025 11:11 AM (77rzZ)
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Which will happen, should they get the chance. The Biden Administration made it very clear. I don't think people really appreciate the courage needed to join the Trump administration.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 28, 2025 11:10 AM (tT6L1)
Also puts the GOPe in perspective, doesn't it?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 28, 2025 11:10 AM (tT6L1)
Also puts the GOPe in perspective, doesn't it?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 28, 2025 11:11 AM (bss/y)
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You CANNOT have enough contempt for these moral retards.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 28, 2025 11:12 AM (bss/y)
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The most important characteristic voters look for in a candidate is sincerity. A politician who learns to fake that will be very successful.
Posted by: Oglebay at May 28, 2025 11:12 AM (2ap+5)
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I'm loving this. Let these retards spend tons of money on lost causes. A fool and his money are soon parted. It's like the incel thinking if he only spends more money on the OF THOT, he'll land her.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 28, 2025 11:12 AM (iFTx/)
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Why just here on this smart military blog it’s still a biblical command that tax cuts for the ultra rich is a good thing and will create jobs. Or that maintaining 10000 bases worldwide is ended to stop some commie takeover of the world or some shit.
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"Biblical command?"
As opposed to wanting to tax lemonade stands out of principle, I suppose.
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"Biblical command?"
As opposed to wanting to tax lemonade stands out of principle, I suppose.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 28, 2025 11:12 AM (oUlN5)
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I stand ready to house, feed, treat, sedate, all Dems with delusional fantasies unable to cope with life in the real world.
Posted by: Pilgrim State Hospital Bldg. 23 at May 28, 2025 11:12 AM (G5+As)
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promises to arrest and execute everyone from the Trump administration.
I remember the demands to arrest the lady who was hired to provide sign language interpretations for Trump during the first Administration because "SHE WAS HELPING TO SPREAD LIES!!!"
I remember the demands to arrest the lady who was hired to provide sign language interpretations for Trump during the first Administration because "SHE WAS HELPING TO SPREAD LIES!!!"
Posted by: NR Pax at May 28, 2025 11:12 AM (OPGS/)
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He added that Democrats had "lost credibility by being seen as alien on cultural issues."
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One might say "illegal alien" ...
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One might say "illegal alien" ...
Posted by: ShainS at May 28, 2025 11:13 AM (jQOKi)
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He added that Democrats had "lost credibility by being seen as alien on cultural issues."
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They force their seed down your throat then burst through your chest tearing your heart out.
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They force their seed down your throat then burst through your chest tearing your heart out.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Available In Super Size! at May 28, 2025 11:13 AM (L/fGl)
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He added that Democrats had "lost credibility by being seen as alien on cultural issues."
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One might say "illegal alien" ...
Posted by: ShainS
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I'd have to know what kind of alien. Are we talking Alf, or are we talking Vogons?
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One might say "illegal alien" ...
Posted by: ShainS
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I'd have to know what kind of alien. Are we talking Alf, or are we talking Vogons?
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 28, 2025 11:14 AM (oUlN5)
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And so even when the voters have given the Rs a majority, they find excuses to act as though they are the minority. "oh the Pres will block this, oh the courts said we cant do that, blah blah blah". I get that getting power in DC and then using that power to shrink the power of DC over the country is contrary to human nature, but it still sucks.
Posted by: PaleRider at May 28, 2025 11:14 AM (CKOCg)
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As opposed to wanting to tax lemonade stands out of principle, I suppose.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 28, 2025 11:12 AM (oUlN5)
Yes that’s it. There are only two choices. Tax lemonade stands or give Soros an extra $100M to play with.
Thanks for proving my point.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 28, 2025 11:12 AM (oUlN5)
Yes that’s it. There are only two choices. Tax lemonade stands or give Soros an extra $100M to play with.
Thanks for proving my point.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 28, 2025 11:14 AM (Y7qnM)
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I'd have to know what kind of alien. Are we talking Alf, or are we talking Vogons?
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 28, 2025 11:14 AM (oUlN5)
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"O freddled gruntbuggly..."
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 28, 2025 11:14 AM (oUlN5)
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"O freddled gruntbuggly..."
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at May 28, 2025 11:14 AM (6YdsJ)
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I think it'd be interesting to compare the Dem's efforts to scream for Trump's arrest against Trump's continued talk, for four straight years, of the stolen election.
Trump's talk of the stolen election was a way to lay blame for the state of the country on a disengaged elite who don't care what you want and will do whatever they want. It's a rallying call to action, make it so big, counter it so well, that they can't do it again and regain your voice.
Contrast that with the arrest of Trump. "Trump is the only politician who lies and steals, and we must arrest him." No implied promise of making things better, just personal calls for vengeance against a politician for things they say he did which all politicians do (at least by perception).
Just a thought.
Trump's talk of the stolen election was a way to lay blame for the state of the country on a disengaged elite who don't care what you want and will do whatever they want. It's a rallying call to action, make it so big, counter it so well, that they can't do it again and regain your voice.
Contrast that with the arrest of Trump. "Trump is the only politician who lies and steals, and we must arrest him." No implied promise of making things better, just personal calls for vengeance against a politician for things they say he did which all politicians do (at least by perception).
Just a thought.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 28, 2025 11:14 AM (GBKbO)
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"Gender affirmation surgery" is a crap message.
Posted by: Oh By The Way at May 28, 2025 11:15 AM (dg+HA)
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As opposed to wanting to tax lemonade stands out of principle, I suppose.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 28, 2025 11:12 AM (oUlN5)
Yes that’s it. There are only two choices. Tax lemonade stands or give Soros an extra $100M to play with.
Thanks for proving my point.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
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Hey, you made the argument for taxing eleven year olds, not me.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 28, 2025 11:12 AM (oUlN5)
Yes that’s it. There are only two choices. Tax lemonade stands or give Soros an extra $100M to play with.
Thanks for proving my point.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
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Hey, you made the argument for taxing eleven year olds, not me.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 28, 2025 11:15 AM (oUlN5)
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This is another point in why Harris will not be the nominee. They aren't going through all of this to turn around and have a loser run.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 28, 2025 11:08 AM (+OnsA)
My guess? They will try to pull another covid or some other sort of scare. Take the variability out of things and allow them to exert their will.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
They are already trying to push a new Covid scare out of China.
Unless they have 1918 levels of dead bodies in the streets, I honestly think they shot their was on plandemics.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 28, 2025 11:08 AM (+OnsA)
My guess? They will try to pull another covid or some other sort of scare. Take the variability out of things and allow them to exert their will.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
They are already trying to push a new Covid scare out of China.
Unless they have 1918 levels of dead bodies in the streets, I honestly think they shot their was on plandemics.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 28, 2025 11:15 AM (R3H4W)
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The Dem strategists remind me of something I've seen for years but is getting funnier to me all the time: Atheist frequent-commentors on religious websites and blogs. They aren't trolls in the usual sense because they aren't tossing insults all the time, but at least once a day they fall back on the same message: If only you would let go of your stupid beliefs, you wouldn't be so stupid.
"You don't seem like bad men - except for being men, which is totally not your fault because society has conditioned you to be misogynistic chauvinist pigs - but you would be more tolerable if you would ignore your personal needs (which are really selfish wants) and vote for us. Also, click on this to donate to our campaign."
"You don't seem like bad men - except for being men, which is totally not your fault because society has conditioned you to be misogynistic chauvinist pigs - but you would be more tolerable if you would ignore your personal needs (which are really selfish wants) and vote for us. Also, click on this to donate to our campaign."
Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 28, 2025 11:15 AM (fxCK2)
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Elite. A legend in their own mind.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 28, 2025 11:15 AM (NVNRw)
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Willowed:
Hey, all. Just had my interview. It seemed to go well. Fingers crossed.
Posted by: Bulg at May 28, 2025 10:55 AM (77rzZ)
Good luck!!!
Hey, all. Just had my interview. It seemed to go well. Fingers crossed.
Posted by: Bulg at May 28, 2025 10:55 AM (77rzZ)
Good luck!!!
Posted by: Diogenes at May 28, 2025 11:15 AM (W/lyH)
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Shit or get off the pot
Posted by: another crap message at May 28, 2025 11:16 AM (Y1sOo)
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56 I'd have to know what kind of alien. Are we talking Alf, or are we talking Vogons?
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 28, 2025 11:14 AM (oUlN5)
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"O freddled gruntbuggly..."
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at May 28, 2025 11:14 AM (6YdsJ)
Not bad...
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 28, 2025 11:14 AM (oUlN5)
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"O freddled gruntbuggly..."
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at May 28, 2025 11:14 AM (6YdsJ)
Not bad...
Posted by: Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings at May 28, 2025 11:16 AM (PiwSw)
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The Democrats real problem is that they completely and utterly lack authenticity. They are fakes. Everyone knows they are fake but the party loyal play along for political expediency.
Nobody really believes a man can become a woman. Nobody really believes that Joe Biden was competent in any meaning of the word. Nobody really believes Kamala is capable of being in charge of anything.
Everyone sees these things with their eyes and cannot take the Democrats seriously.
Love him or hate him, Trump is authentically who he is.
Nobody really believes a man can become a woman. Nobody really believes that Joe Biden was competent in any meaning of the word. Nobody really believes Kamala is capable of being in charge of anything.
Everyone sees these things with their eyes and cannot take the Democrats seriously.
Love him or hate him, Trump is authentically who he is.
Posted by: Defenestratus at May 28, 2025 11:16 AM (WYStd)
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60 They are already trying to push a new Covid scare out of China.
Unless they have 1918 levels of dead bodies in the streets, I honestly think they shot their was on plandemics.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 28, 2025 11:15 AM (R3H4W)
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Fighting the last war with the last war's weapons.
That last war was weapons of information. Those weapons are spent.
Unless they have 1918 levels of dead bodies in the streets, I honestly think they shot their was on plandemics.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 28, 2025 11:15 AM (R3H4W)
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Fighting the last war with the last war's weapons.
That last war was weapons of information. Those weapons are spent.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 28, 2025 11:16 AM (GBKbO)
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They just need to learn how to fake sincerity.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 28, 2025 11:16 AM (6Gxim)
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"Smash the patriarchy" is a crap message.
Posted by: And don't forget at May 28, 2025 11:16 AM (dg+HA)
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Hey, you made the argument for taxing eleven year olds, not me.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 28, 2025 11:15 AM (oUlN5)
I did? Lol.
Dude you need help.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 28, 2025 11:15 AM (oUlN5)
I did? Lol.
Dude you need help.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 28, 2025 11:17 AM (Y7qnM)
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... though she misses the point that this effort is about getting more voters, not about appealing to a hard but shrinking core of ultra-progs ...
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Based on the rhetoric of their "leaders," it sounds like they're now far more interested in getting more violent revolutionaries in the service of murder and mayhem ... than pesky voters.
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Based on the rhetoric of their "leaders," it sounds like they're now far more interested in getting more violent revolutionaries in the service of murder and mayhem ... than pesky voters.
Posted by: ShainS at May 28, 2025 11:17 AM (jQOKi)
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I like this, because it means the Party is having a moment of self-doubt, which has never happened, and is potentially crippling for a movement of supremacist bigots who earnestly believe themselves to be a natural master class.
But, these people - these naysayers - will almost definitely be silenced and shoved aside in favor of business as usual - fraud, intimidation, treachery, and street violence.
In the end, the votes are nice to have, but they aren't necessary, and the mission is all that matters.
But, these people - these naysayers - will almost definitely be silenced and shoved aside in favor of business as usual - fraud, intimidation, treachery, and street violence.
In the end, the votes are nice to have, but they aren't necessary, and the mission is all that matters.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 28, 2025 11:17 AM (BI5O2)
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Thanks, Diogenes!
The guy I interviewed with (who would be my boss if hired) was a JAG in the Air Force. We were just talking with each other like two old military buds.
The guy I interviewed with (who would be my boss if hired) was a JAG in the Air Force. We were just talking with each other like two old military buds.
Posted by: Bulg at May 28, 2025 11:17 AM (77rzZ)
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So, exactly how does one go about 'selling' communism, totalitarianism, socialism, transgenderism and all the other 'isms that the left is trying so hard to shove down our throats?
What, specifically, is the language the Democrats think they need to 'learn' to do this?
See, they couched it it all sorts of funky, asexual, immoral lingo meant to mask their true intentions, and it isn't working. I get that the left is really good at leveraging language to suit their needs. They've been doing it for decades, if not longer, but it never works.
So, they just continue to fuck the proverbial chicken? Or move on to more... kinetic methods?
What, specifically, is the language the Democrats think they need to 'learn' to do this?
See, they couched it it all sorts of funky, asexual, immoral lingo meant to mask their true intentions, and it isn't working. I get that the left is really good at leveraging language to suit their needs. They've been doing it for decades, if not longer, but it never works.
So, they just continue to fuck the proverbial chicken? Or move on to more... kinetic methods?
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 28, 2025 11:18 AM (Q4IgG)
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68 They just need to learn how to fake sincerity.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 28, 2025 11:16 AM (6Gxim)
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Their choices for genuine sincerity fall into two buckets:
Crazy leftist sincerity for crazy leftist things.
and
Populist sincerity for populist things with a leftist twist (so much welfare, but for only Americans).
Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 28, 2025 11:16 AM (6Gxim)
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Their choices for genuine sincerity fall into two buckets:
Crazy leftist sincerity for crazy leftist things.
and
Populist sincerity for populist things with a leftist twist (so much welfare, but for only Americans).
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 28, 2025 11:18 AM (GBKbO)
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"Trans the kids" is a crap message.
Posted by: And pedophilia at May 28, 2025 11:18 AM (dg+HA)
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To successfully fight against the Left you have to fight fire with fire. I'm sure many would agree that is difficult to do for most people on the Right because the necessary fire is against their moral code so time is spent trying to find alternatives which of course turn out to be ineffective.
A better plan and Divine intervention is our only hope and Trump 2.0 may fill that wish. I always said Trump has the personality of the Left but fortunately using it to fight against the Left and for conservative positions.
A better plan and Divine intervention is our only hope and Trump 2.0 may fill that wish. I always said Trump has the personality of the Left but fortunately using it to fight against the Left and for conservative positions.
Posted by: polynikes at May 28, 2025 11:18 AM (VofaG)
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South Africa President Ramaphosa Defends “Kill the Boer”: Says It’s a “Liberation Chant”
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You know, like Sieg Heil!
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You know, like Sieg Heil!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Available In Super Size! at May 28, 2025 11:19 AM (L/fGl)
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Tax lemonade stands or give Soros an extra $100M to play with.
Thanks for proving my point.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
No one here wants to give Soros anything. What's your point?
Thanks for proving my point.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
No one here wants to give Soros anything. What's your point?
Posted by: Bulg at May 28, 2025 11:19 AM (77rzZ)
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Hey, you made the argument for taxing eleven year olds, not me.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 28, 2025 11:15 AM (oUlN5)
I did? Lol.
Dude you need help.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 28, 2025 11:17 AM (Y7qnM)
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Hey, if you want to repudiate your own argument and agree with me that taxing lemonade stands out of principle so everything is "fair," well, welcome to the party.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 28, 2025 11:15 AM (oUlN5)
I did? Lol.
Dude you need help.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 28, 2025 11:17 AM (Y7qnM)
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Hey, if you want to repudiate your own argument and agree with me that taxing lemonade stands out of principle so everything is "fair," well, welcome to the party.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 28, 2025 11:19 AM (oUlN5)
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Wow, I have not seen too many pounding the tax cut line item- or keeping military bases everywhere.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 28, 2025 11:20 AM (bss/y)
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Right now, with the slim to almost non existent GOP House majority, it's difficult to get any really meaningful legislation passed. Too many of the GOP love having that power. At least in the Senate, the turncoats are, for the most part, marginalized.
However, what could really be interesting is if the GOP manages to expand their House majority in the mid-terms and makes House turncoats irrelevant.
However, what could really be interesting is if the GOP manages to expand their House majority in the mid-terms and makes House turncoats irrelevant.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 28, 2025 11:20 AM (tT6L1)
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 28, 2025 11:20 AM (Z5sYa)
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Left wing media continues to argue that we must defend our democracy from the authoritarian who is baldly expanding the power of the state in his dictatorial effort to reduce the power of the state.
Posted by: Oglebay at May 28, 2025 11:21 AM (2ap+5)
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Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 28, 2025 11:17 AM (Y7qnM)
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You seem to take it very personally when someone pushes back on irrational absolutism. Are you OK...?
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You seem to take it very personally when someone pushes back on irrational absolutism. Are you OK...?
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 28, 2025 11:21 AM (oUlN5)
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"Trans rights are human rights" is a crap message.
Posted by: And creepy at May 28, 2025 11:21 AM (dg+HA)
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I see that the insult portion of the program has started for the day ( unless I missed it earlier ). Please stop it, Mr. "it's go time, Donald."
P..S. There is no "Biblical mandate" for taxing the rich and as far as I know nobody has claimed such.
P..S. There is no "Biblical mandate" for taxing the rich and as far as I know nobody has claimed such.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 28, 2025 11:21 AM (EJtBU)
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82 Right now, with the slim to almost non existent GOP House majority, it's difficult to get any really meaningful legislation passed. Too many of the GOP love having that power. At least in the Senate, the turncoats are, for the most part, marginalized.
However, what could really be interesting is if the GOP manages to expand their House majority in the mid-terms and makes House turncoats irrelevant.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 28, 2025 11:20 AM (tT6L1)
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Mike Johnson sucks, but he's the best Speaker Republicans have had in decades.
Boehner nor Ryan would have gotten the BBB through with larger majorities.
However, what could really be interesting is if the GOP manages to expand their House majority in the mid-terms and makes House turncoats irrelevant.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 28, 2025 11:20 AM (tT6L1)
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Mike Johnson sucks, but he's the best Speaker Republicans have had in decades.
Boehner nor Ryan would have gotten the BBB through with larger majorities.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 28, 2025 11:21 AM (GBKbO)
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72
But, these people - these naysayers - will almost definitely be silenced and shoved aside in favor of business as usual - fraud, intimidation, treachery, and street violence.
In the end, the votes are nice to have, but they aren't necessary, and the mission is all that matters.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 28, 2025 11:17 AM (BI5O2)
Interesting points… I get the sense that the rising generation has not the patience for intimidation an violence that the older generation has.. which tend to be more supine and limited to variations of “ oh, ain’t it awful” and waiting for someone to come along and make it all better.. we’ll see, I suppose..
But, these people - these naysayers - will almost definitely be silenced and shoved aside in favor of business as usual - fraud, intimidation, treachery, and street violence.
In the end, the votes are nice to have, but they aren't necessary, and the mission is all that matters.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 28, 2025 11:17 AM (BI5O2)
Interesting points… I get the sense that the rising generation has not the patience for intimidation an violence that the older generation has.. which tend to be more supine and limited to variations of “ oh, ain’t it awful” and waiting for someone to come along and make it all better.. we’ll see, I suppose..
Posted by: tubal at May 28, 2025 11:21 AM (PCK5/)
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South Africa President Ramaphosa Defends “Kill the Boer”: Says It’s a “Liberation Chant”
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You know, like Sieg Heil!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
Arbecht Macht Frei!
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You know, like Sieg Heil!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
Arbecht Macht Frei!
Posted by: rickb223 at May 28, 2025 11:21 AM (R3H4W)
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Divine intervention is the only thing that can retrieve this disaster. However that might manifest itself. But it's not within anybody's power to fix this without G-d at their side.
Divine intervention is the only thing that can retrieve this disaster. However that might manifest itself. But it's not within anybody's power to fix this without G-d at their side.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 28, 2025 11:22 AM (BI5O2)
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I don't think it's the economy. They have been trained to hate liberals and Democrats, women, gays, etc. It is the hate they have for nearly everyone not male.
Maybe that DNC guy who keeps asking for money could hire one person to read DU. There are tons of good ideas here for free!
I don't understand why people have a problem with this, republicans got in power because of stuff like this. We need more focus groups and study and analysis, test-marketing of catchphrases and so on.
I think a lack of authenticity might be the problem. They aren't going to be able to focus-group a message that suddenly wins men over. They need to be sitting at Bernie's and AOC's feet to learn about messaging, not paying thousand dollar per hour comms consultants.
One just needs read most of the responses in this thread to see men are not welcome. We "scratch and grunt." Just "learn neanderthal to communicate with us." Democrats are "sick of hearing about male victim hood." If the genders were reverses and the response was this vitriolic the tiara of female victim hood would be on full display and wholly embraced. Look in the mirror.
Maybe that DNC guy who keeps asking for money could hire one person to read DU. There are tons of good ideas here for free!
I don't understand why people have a problem with this, republicans got in power because of stuff like this. We need more focus groups and study and analysis, test-marketing of catchphrases and so on.
I think a lack of authenticity might be the problem. They aren't going to be able to focus-group a message that suddenly wins men over. They need to be sitting at Bernie's and AOC's feet to learn about messaging, not paying thousand dollar per hour comms consultants.
One just needs read most of the responses in this thread to see men are not welcome. We "scratch and grunt." Just "learn neanderthal to communicate with us." Democrats are "sick of hearing about male victim hood." If the genders were reverses and the response was this vitriolic the tiara of female victim hood would be on full display and wholly embraced. Look in the mirror.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 28, 2025 11:22 AM (JCZqz)
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No one here wants to give Soros anything. What's your point?
Posted by: Bulg at May 28, 2025 11:19 AM (77rzZ)
Giving massive tax cuts to the ultra rich gives tax cuts to leftist billionaires by and large.
My point is tax cuts for the rich is something that most people here believe in religiously. And it’s because that was “the thing” in the 80s to the 00s when most people here became politically engaged. No matter how discredited it is? It doesn’t matter. It’s like music tastes. Whatever you like at 20 you’ll like at 60. Same with political beliefs.
Posted by: Bulg at May 28, 2025 11:19 AM (77rzZ)
Giving massive tax cuts to the ultra rich gives tax cuts to leftist billionaires by and large.
My point is tax cuts for the rich is something that most people here believe in religiously. And it’s because that was “the thing” in the 80s to the 00s when most people here became politically engaged. No matter how discredited it is? It doesn’t matter. It’s like music tastes. Whatever you like at 20 you’ll like at 60. Same with political beliefs.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 28, 2025 11:22 AM (Y7qnM)
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Wow, I have not seen too many pounding the tax cut line item- or keeping military bases everywhere.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 28, 2025 11:20 AM (bss/y)
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I actually recall some time ago Ace being OK with tax increases on the wealthy since they are aligned with lefty causes anyway, so why treat them as friends...?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 28, 2025 11:20 AM (bss/y)
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I actually recall some time ago Ace being OK with tax increases on the wealthy since they are aligned with lefty causes anyway, so why treat them as friends...?
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 28, 2025 11:22 AM (oUlN5)
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the messaging train left the station long ago
the demorat machine does not have the infrastructure or the funds to manufacture viral social media content promoting their new contrived messaging
anything targeted to the groups they wish to bring home will only generate intense pointing and laughing
the demorat machine does not have the infrastructure or the funds to manufacture viral social media content promoting their new contrived messaging
anything targeted to the groups they wish to bring home will only generate intense pointing and laughing
Posted by: kallisto at May 28, 2025 11:23 AM (dCxaZ)
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They need to be sitting at Bernie's and AOC's feet to learn about messaging, not paying thousand dollar per hour comms consultants.
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This is so good. Yes, go with this one, Dems!
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This is so good. Yes, go with this one, Dems!
Posted by: Piper at May 28, 2025 11:23 AM (/sySz)
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No one here wants to give Soros anything. What's your point?
Posted by: Bulg
Not true, a free one way trip to Malesia.
It could be a round trip but the return ticket would go unused.
Posted by: Bulg
Not true, a free one way trip to Malesia.
It could be a round trip but the return ticket would go unused.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 28, 2025 11:23 AM (Z5sYa)
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In the 2016 campaign, everyone went to the Iowa fair in their brand new blue jeans and flannel shirts - just like you rubes! It's what they all do. Except Trump, who showed up in his New York suit and his helicopter. He wasn't going to pretend to be a blue jeans and flannel guy (unlike Elizabeth Warren when she pretended to be a beer-drinker) for the rubes.
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Great moment, point, and memory.
Love him or hate him -- Trump's nothing if not authentic.
And few Rs have learned that lesson -- let alone Commies.
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Great moment, point, and memory.
Love him or hate him -- Trump's nothing if not authentic.
And few Rs have learned that lesson -- let alone Commies.
Posted by: ShainS at May 28, 2025 11:23 AM (mxcAE)
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Wokeism is a religion.
And the woke are very very dogmatic, because any variation from the narrative litany can and will get you cancelled. Hell, if they had their way it would get you imprisoned and speaking of which - people have been worrying about Europeans being imprisoned for disagreeing with Islam...but there are plenty of examples already of Europeans imprisoned for anti-woke blasphemy
And the woke are very very dogmatic, because any variation from the narrative litany can and will get you cancelled. Hell, if they had their way it would get you imprisoned and speaking of which - people have been worrying about Europeans being imprisoned for disagreeing with Islam...but there are plenty of examples already of Europeans imprisoned for anti-woke blasphemy
Posted by: 18-1 at May 28, 2025 11:23 AM (t0Rmr)
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A friend's son is a welder and has been given his own crew. He and the gang are all guys in their twenties, most cracking six figure income. Prized possessions of each include an F150, maybe an F250, and an AR or two or three and a Glock or two or three. I'm sure they would listen with all their attention to a Dem operative giving them a sermon.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 28, 2025 11:24 AM (gm9Sb)
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One troublesome biblical reference might be "it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
Posted by: Oglebay at May 28, 2025 11:24 AM (2ap+5)
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My point is tax cuts for the rich is something that most people here believe in religiously. And it’s because that was “the thing” in the 80s to the 00s when most people here became politically engaged. No matter how discredited it is? It doesn’t matter. It’s like music tastes. Whatever you like at 20 you’ll like at 60. Same with political beliefs.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 28, 2025 11:22 AM (Y7qnM)
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Ah, backing off now? First it was a "biblical command" here, now it's "most" people.
Hm.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 28, 2025 11:22 AM (Y7qnM)
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Ah, backing off now? First it was a "biblical command" here, now it's "most" people.
Hm.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 28, 2025 11:24 AM (oUlN5)
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89 Interesting points… I get the sense that the rising generation has not the patience for intimidation an violence that the older generation has.. which tend to be more supine and limited to variations of “ oh, ain’t it awful” and waiting for someone to come along and make it all better.. we’ll see, I suppose..
Posted by: tubal at May 28, 2025 11:21 AM (PCK5/)
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The old school were pushed out of the DNC after the rise of Obama, replaced by the Chicago machine. They've been in control (either explicitly or implicitly through people following trends) for 15 years.
That machine retained power by rigging elections like in Chicago, not appealing to voters.
That machine is now at risk of losing its position with an even newer generation who does not understand either vote buying the old way or vote manufacturing the new way. They only understand radical activism.
It should be interesting to see it play out.
Posted by: tubal at May 28, 2025 11:21 AM (PCK5/)
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The old school were pushed out of the DNC after the rise of Obama, replaced by the Chicago machine. They've been in control (either explicitly or implicitly through people following trends) for 15 years.
That machine retained power by rigging elections like in Chicago, not appealing to voters.
That machine is now at risk of losing its position with an even newer generation who does not understand either vote buying the old way or vote manufacturing the new way. They only understand radical activism.
It should be interesting to see it play out.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 28, 2025 11:24 AM (GBKbO)
104
OK, someone keep an eye on that last commenter at Intercepted DU Transmissions. He's starting to notice things and we might be able to bring him over.
Posted by: NR Pax at May 28, 2025 11:24 AM (OPGS/)
105
92 I think a lack of authenticity might be the problem. They aren't going to be able to focus-group a message that suddenly wins men over. They need to be sitting at Bernie's and AOC's feet to learn about messaging, not paying thousand dollar per hour comms consultants.
One just needs read most of the responses in this thread to see men are not welcome. We "scratch and grunt." Just "learn neanderthal to communicate with us." Democrats are "sick of hearing about male victim hood." If the genders were reverses and the response was this vitriolic the tiara of female victim hood would be on full display and wholly embraced. Look in the mirror.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 28, 2025 11:22 AM (JCZqz)
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Hey, DU, are you willing to vote against Democrats who advocate for open borders?
It seems to be a major issue for voters.
One just needs read most of the responses in this thread to see men are not welcome. We "scratch and grunt." Just "learn neanderthal to communicate with us." Democrats are "sick of hearing about male victim hood." If the genders were reverses and the response was this vitriolic the tiara of female victim hood would be on full display and wholly embraced. Look in the mirror.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 28, 2025 11:22 AM (JCZqz)
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Hey, DU, are you willing to vote against Democrats who advocate for open borders?
It seems to be a major issue for voters.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 28, 2025 11:25 AM (GBKbO)
106
One just needs read most of the responses in this thread to see men are not welcome. We "scratch and grunt." Just "learn neanderthal to communicate with us." Democrats are "sick of hearing about male victim hood." If the genders were reverses and the response was this vitriolic the tiara of female victim hood would be on full display and wholly embraced. Look in the mirror.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions
That commenter is going to be put on an ice floe.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions
That commenter is going to be put on an ice floe.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 28, 2025 11:25 AM (R3H4W)
107
Megyn Kelly had an interesting data point. There were something like 1400 counties that moved more Republican all 3 Trump elections. There were 57 that did the same for Dems.
All but 3 of the 1400 had a median income under $100k. Almost all the 57 had a median income above $100k.
The gop has become the party of the middle class and the Dems the party of the rich.
All but 3 of the 1400 had a median income under $100k. Almost all the 57 had a median income above $100k.
The gop has become the party of the middle class and the Dems the party of the rich.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 28, 2025 11:25 AM (Y7qnM)
108
Biden was asked at one point how he was going to reach out to undecided moderate voters and he said something to the effect of "I don't need to reach out to voters at all".
Remember even running a completely incompetent candidate like Harris they posted a nominal 75M votes...which probably corresponds to around 50-60M actual citizens.
Remember even running a completely incompetent candidate like Harris they posted a nominal 75M votes...which probably corresponds to around 50-60M actual citizens.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 28, 2025 11:25 AM (t0Rmr)
109
Hey Joe, they are all shit weasels. Weasels, Ferrets and Stoats. Smash them with a club.
Posted by: Pudinhead at May 28, 2025 11:26 AM (n17eQ)
110
No one here wants to give Soros anything. What's your point?
Posted by: Bulg
Not true, a free one way trip to Malesia.
It could be a round trip but the return ticket would go unused.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 28, 2025 11:23 AM (Z5sYa)
Just dump him over the wall of their embassy. Simpler and cheaper.
Posted by: Bulg
Not true, a free one way trip to Malesia.
It could be a round trip but the return ticket would go unused.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 28, 2025 11:23 AM (Z5sYa)
Just dump him over the wall of their embassy. Simpler and cheaper.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 28, 2025 11:26 AM (VNX3d)
111
I'm sure they would listen with all their attention to a Dem operative giving them a sermon.
The fun part is when they start asking Awkward Questions of the dem rep.
The fun part is when they start asking Awkward Questions of the dem rep.
Posted by: NR Pax at May 28, 2025 11:26 AM (OPGS/)
112
Ah, backing off now? First it was a "biblical command" here, now it's "most" people.
Hm.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 28, 2025 11:24 AM (oUlN5)
You’re weird man. But whatevs.
Hm.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 28, 2025 11:24 AM (oUlN5)
You’re weird man. But whatevs.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 28, 2025 11:26 AM (Y7qnM)
113
The gop has become the party of the middle class and the Dems the party of the rich.
To be pedantic...
Trump/MAGA is the party of the working/middle class. But the GOP is still not.
The gop has become the party of the middle class and the Dems the party of the rich.
To be pedantic...
Trump/MAGA is the party of the working/middle class. But the GOP is still not.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 28, 2025 11:26 AM (t0Rmr)
114
One troublesome biblical reference might be "it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
Posted by: Oglebay at May 28, 2025 11:24 AM (2ap+5)
You forgot the rest of Jesus's statement.
Posted by: Oglebay at May 28, 2025 11:24 AM (2ap+5)
You forgot the rest of Jesus's statement.
Posted by: polynikes at May 28, 2025 11:26 AM (VofaG)
115
Big Beautiful Ball Busting Bill
https://tinyurl.com/mr23sr8c
This is what the democrats are saying will lose women's rights and cancel elections by Trump.
https://tinyurl.com/mr23sr8c
This is what the democrats are saying will lose women's rights and cancel elections by Trump.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 28, 2025 11:27 AM (R3H4W)
116
I always found it interesting that Democrats always, I do mean ALWAYS, blame the messaging and not the message or their policies.
Posted by: SMOD at May 28, 2025 11:27 AM (RHGPo)
117
To be pedantic...
Trump/MAGA is the party of the working/middle class. But the GOP is still not.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 28, 2025 11:26 AM (t0Rmr)
True.
Trump/MAGA is the party of the working/middle class. But the GOP is still not.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 28, 2025 11:26 AM (t0Rmr)
True.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 28, 2025 11:27 AM (Y7qnM)
118
108 Biden was asked at one point how he was going to reach out to undecided moderate voters and he said something to the effect of "I don't need to reach out to voters at all".
Remember even running a completely incompetent candidate like Harris they posted a nominal 75M votes...which probably corresponds to around 50-60M actual citizens.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 28, 2025 11:25 AM (t0Rmr)
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It's never not a good time to remember that political allegiances are more about cultural markers than policy, GOTV efforts, or messaging.
It takes A LOT to break someone out of cultural norms. It's why political allegiance is never actually logical or reasonable. It's just part of who someone is. "I'm a Democrat and I vote for Democrats. I don't think about politics all that much."
Remember even running a completely incompetent candidate like Harris they posted a nominal 75M votes...which probably corresponds to around 50-60M actual citizens.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 28, 2025 11:25 AM (t0Rmr)
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It's never not a good time to remember that political allegiances are more about cultural markers than policy, GOTV efforts, or messaging.
It takes A LOT to break someone out of cultural norms. It's why political allegiance is never actually logical or reasonable. It's just part of who someone is. "I'm a Democrat and I vote for Democrats. I don't think about politics all that much."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 28, 2025 11:27 AM (GBKbO)
119
I'm liking this Rubio guy more and more:
@SecRubio
For too long, Americans have been fined, harassed, and even charged by foreign authorities for exercising their free speech rights.
Today, I am announcing a new visa restriction policy that will apply to foreign officials and persons who are complicit in censoring Americans. Free speech is essential to the American way of life – a birthright over which foreign governments have no authority.
Foreigners who work to undermine the rights of Americans should not enjoy the privilege of traveling to our country. Whether in Latin America, Europe, or elsewhere, the days of passive treatment for those who work to undermine the rights of Americans are over.
Take that ya filthy farnahs!
@SecRubio
For too long, Americans have been fined, harassed, and even charged by foreign authorities for exercising their free speech rights.
Today, I am announcing a new visa restriction policy that will apply to foreign officials and persons who are complicit in censoring Americans. Free speech is essential to the American way of life – a birthright over which foreign governments have no authority.
Foreigners who work to undermine the rights of Americans should not enjoy the privilege of traveling to our country. Whether in Latin America, Europe, or elsewhere, the days of passive treatment for those who work to undermine the rights of Americans are over.
Take that ya filthy farnahs!
Posted by: IrishEi at May 28, 2025 11:27 AM (3ImbR)
120
I've mentioned Ellecordova before when she got a little political well, now she's got a new video bitching about the Big Beautiful Bill and not because it goes nowhere near far enough but because its mean and helps the rich...
Posted by: 18-1 at May 28, 2025 11:28 AM (t0Rmr)
121
Ah, backing off now? First it was a "biblical command" here, now it's "most" people.
Hm.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 28, 2025 11:24 AM (oUlN5)
You’re weird man. But whatevs.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 28, 2025 11:26 AM (Y7qnM)
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Well, for an absolutist you seem to have a problem sticking to one absolute.
So which is it? Biblical Command/everyone as you originally said, or "most people" like you backtracked toward?
Please tell me you have something more than ad hominem and selective memory to support your absolutism.
Hm.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 28, 2025 11:24 AM (oUlN5)
You’re weird man. But whatevs.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 28, 2025 11:26 AM (Y7qnM)
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Well, for an absolutist you seem to have a problem sticking to one absolute.
So which is it? Biblical Command/everyone as you originally said, or "most people" like you backtracked toward?
Please tell me you have something more than ad hominem and selective memory to support your absolutism.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 28, 2025 11:28 AM (oUlN5)
122
"But first you will blow me" is a crap message.
Posted by: ShainS at May 28, 2025 11:28 AM (YMsBZ)
123
107 Megyn Kelly had an interesting data point. There were something like 1400 counties that moved more Republican all 3 Trump elections. There were 57 that did the same for Dems.
All but 3 of the 1400 had a median income under $100k. Almost all the 57 had a median income above $100k.
The gop has become the party of the middle class and the Dems the party of the rich.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 28, 2025 11:25 AM (Y7qnM)
As has been proven throughout third-world countries, those without money do not have the time, patience, or energy to waste on woke bullshit.
All but 3 of the 1400 had a median income under $100k. Almost all the 57 had a median income above $100k.
The gop has become the party of the middle class and the Dems the party of the rich.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 28, 2025 11:25 AM (Y7qnM)
As has been proven throughout third-world countries, those without money do not have the time, patience, or energy to waste on woke bullshit.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 28, 2025 11:28 AM (KbCG3)
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A legend in his own time.
Competitive Eating Legend Joey Chestnut Sets New Popcorn Eating Record
Competitive Eating Legend Joey Chestnut Sets New Popcorn Eating Record
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Available In Super Size! at May 28, 2025 11:28 AM (L/fGl)
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116 I always found it interesting that Democrats always, I do mean ALWAYS, blame the messaging and not the message or their policies.
Posted by: SMOD at May 28, 2025 11:27 AM (RHGPo)
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After 2012, Republicans decided that they needed to change policy: the GOP needed to become explicitly open borders.
I think that might have been worse.
Posted by: SMOD at May 28, 2025 11:27 AM (RHGPo)
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After 2012, Republicans decided that they needed to change policy: the GOP needed to become explicitly open borders.
I think that might have been worse.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 28, 2025 11:29 AM (GBKbO)
126
And my Cliff Clavin trivia
it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle
This may actually refer to the the name they give to the gates to a city which are not large enough for a camel to walk through.
it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle
This may actually refer to the the name they give to the gates to a city which are not large enough for a camel to walk through.
Posted by: polynikes at May 28, 2025 11:29 AM (VofaG)
127
Biden was asked at one point how he was going to reach out to undecided moderate voters and he said something to the effect of "I don't need to reach out to voters at all".
Posted by: 18-1
Remember when he told those hard hat wearing Neanderthals "I don't work for you!"?
Posted by: 18-1
Remember when he told those hard hat wearing Neanderthals "I don't work for you!"?
Posted by: rickb223 at May 28, 2025 11:29 AM (R3H4W)
128
I know that all things are possible with God - but who prays, "God, please put me in circumstances that best enable me to enter your kingdom"?
Posted by: Oglebay at May 28, 2025 11:29 AM (2ap+5)
129
OK, someone keep an eye on that last commenter at Intercepted DU Transmissions. He's starting to notice things and we might be able to bring him over.
Posted by: NR Pax
There are two on that list that seem to have only sipped the Kool-Aid... you probably will not see theme post again on DU.
Posted by: NR Pax
There are two on that list that seem to have only sipped the Kool-Aid... you probably will not see theme post again on DU.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 28, 2025 11:29 AM (Z5sYa)
130
Some thoughts on a rich man and the camel and the eye of the needle from the folks at "Got Questions"
https://tinyurl.com/5fcep596
https://tinyurl.com/5fcep596
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 28, 2025 11:30 AM (EJtBU)
131
Politicians on both “ sides” forget immediately that there are people living outside of cities.. a strange form of amnesia, brought on by hubris I suppose…
Posted by: tubal at May 28, 2025 11:30 AM (PCK5/)
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116 And true MAGA politicians (not GOPe) act like good customer service, listening to customers needs. Dem politicians are the annoying sales call in the middle of supper, trying to sell their stuff with no regard to customer needs or wants.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 28, 2025 11:30 AM (gm9Sb)
133
They - the Dems, the GOP, the NGOs, the establishment across the board - wanted it to be an outlier. They wanted to believe that the "populist" - really, anti-establishment sentiment - surge was a flash in the pan.
To be fair, we were successful in snuffing out the Tea Party. Let's run that same playbook again!
To be fair, we were successful in snuffing out the Tea Party. Let's run that same playbook again!
Posted by: GOPe at May 28, 2025 11:30 AM (0sNs1)
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I know that all things are possible with God - but who prays, "God, please put me in circumstances that best enable me to enter your kingdom"?
Posted by: Oglebay at May 28, 2025 11:29 AM (2ap+5)
We have different interpretations of what Jesus is saying.
Posted by: Oglebay at May 28, 2025 11:29 AM (2ap+5)
We have different interpretations of what Jesus is saying.
Posted by: polynikes at May 28, 2025 11:31 AM (VofaG)
135
I always read the camel thing as "wealth cannot buy you a spot in heaven".
Like everyone else they still need Christ.
Like everyone else they still need Christ.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 28, 2025 11:31 AM (t0Rmr)
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Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Available In Super Size! at May 28, 2025 11:28 AM (L/fGl)
Which movies did he see? 😉 or it was just popcorn for the sake of eating popcorn?
Which movies did he see? 😉 or it was just popcorn for the sake of eating popcorn?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 28, 2025 11:31 AM (EJtBU)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 28, 2025 11:31 AM (bss/y)
138
I actually recall some time ago Ace being OK with tax increases on the wealthy since they are aligned with lefty causes anyway, so why treat them as friends...?
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 28, 2025 11:22 AM
I recall Ace calling for an end to tax exemptions that wealthy people like; e.g. deductions for carrying a mortgage.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 28, 2025 11:22 AM
I recall Ace calling for an end to tax exemptions that wealthy people like; e.g. deductions for carrying a mortgage.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 28, 2025 11:32 AM (fxCK2)
139
Remember even running a completely incompetent candidate like Harris they posted a nominal 75M votes...which probably corresponds to around 50-60M actual citizens.
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That's how *vested* the hardcore Dems are. They are the equivalent of professional wrestling fans--they KNOW that what they're watching is completely scripted, fake, and gay....and they're voting for it anyway. They are completely invested in fantasy and not at all concerned with real life outcomes.
*Disclaimer--I love professional wrestling--the above isn't a slam on that form of entertainment. I grew up watching the Von Erichs every Saturday night on television as well as heaping helpings of Georgia Championship Wrestling.
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That's how *vested* the hardcore Dems are. They are the equivalent of professional wrestling fans--they KNOW that what they're watching is completely scripted, fake, and gay....and they're voting for it anyway. They are completely invested in fantasy and not at all concerned with real life outcomes.
*Disclaimer--I love professional wrestling--the above isn't a slam on that form of entertainment. I grew up watching the Von Erichs every Saturday night on television as well as heaping helpings of Georgia Championship Wrestling.
Posted by: Crusader at May 28, 2025 11:32 AM (TN0g+)
140
Voters or not, they will try and cheat the mid term election
Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2025 11:32 AM (ypFCm)
141
Right now, with the slim to almost non existent GOP House majority, it's difficult to get any really meaningful legislation passed. Too many of the GOP love having that power. At least in the Senate, the turncoats are, for the most part, marginalized.
However, what could really be interesting is if the GOP manages to expand their House majority in the mid-terms and makes House turncoats irrelevant.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 28, 2025 11:20 AM (tT6L1)
Right now both parties are taking steps to making Congress totally irrelevant. They're purposely destroying their constitutional powers.
When so-called good people do nothing........
However, what could really be interesting is if the GOP manages to expand their House majority in the mid-terms and makes House turncoats irrelevant.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 28, 2025 11:20 AM (tT6L1)
Right now both parties are taking steps to making Congress totally irrelevant. They're purposely destroying their constitutional powers.
When so-called good people do nothing........
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at May 28, 2025 11:32 AM (g8Ew8)
142
Aren't they spending $20 million on this...about the same they claim was the shortfall in the Billion Harris spent running for Prez?
Posted by: Diogenes at May 28, 2025 11:32 AM (W/lyH)
143
OK, someone keep an eye on that last commenter at Intercepted DU Transmissions. He's starting to notice things and we might be able to bring him over.
Posted by: NR Pax
I don't think we can turn him. I think he's just trying to get them to look at what they are saying.
Posted by: NR Pax
I don't think we can turn him. I think he's just trying to get them to look at what they are saying.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 28, 2025 11:33 AM (R3H4W)
144
...and charitable donations to the excretable NGOs.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 28, 2025 11:33 AM (fxCK2)
Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 28, 2025 11:33 AM (jbnUc)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 28, 2025 11:33 AM (0sNs1)
147
The guy I interviewed with (who would be my boss if hired) was a JAG in the Air Force. We were just talking with each other like two old military buds.
Posted by: Bulg at May 28, 2025 11:17 AM (77rzZ)
Those are the best interviews. I'm still with the temp agency that landed me the job but I work with a bunch of vets who are trying to get me on the company payroll. We got some E-4 mafia all up in this mf'er. I don't know how it'll go but their trying to get me into a position thay pays frigging 80 grand a year but I gotta interview with bigwigs way up there to get it. I'm scared. This is surreal and
pays just shy of double my average income.
I'm getting all nervous just typing about it. I've spent the last 3 months trying to make a damn good impression.
Posted by: Bulg at May 28, 2025 11:17 AM (77rzZ)
Those are the best interviews. I'm still with the temp agency that landed me the job but I work with a bunch of vets who are trying to get me on the company payroll. We got some E-4 mafia all up in this mf'er. I don't know how it'll go but their trying to get me into a position thay pays frigging 80 grand a year but I gotta interview with bigwigs way up there to get it. I'm scared. This is surreal and
pays just shy of double my average income.
I'm getting all nervous just typing about it. I've spent the last 3 months trying to make a damn good impression.
Posted by: Reforger at May 28, 2025 11:33 AM (xcIvR)
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140 Voters or not, they will try and cheat the mid term election
Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2025 11:32 AM (ypFCm)
They will cheat.. our “side”, if you will, does not… do we see a problem there??
Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2025 11:32 AM (ypFCm)
They will cheat.. our “side”, if you will, does not… do we see a problem there??
Posted by: tubal at May 28, 2025 11:34 AM (PCK5/)
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143
I don't think we can turn him. I think he's just trying to get them to look at what they are saying.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 28, 2025 11:33 AM (R3H4W)
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"I'm a man. I agree with you on everything. I'm an ally. Please, stop making me feel bad. You're hurting my feelings."
Dude should see what I put up with here.
*considers mentioning Prometheus*
*thinks better of mentioning Prometheus and does not mention Prometheus*
*does own part to keep thread Prometheus free*
I don't think we can turn him. I think he's just trying to get them to look at what they are saying.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 28, 2025 11:33 AM (R3H4W)
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"I'm a man. I agree with you on everything. I'm an ally. Please, stop making me feel bad. You're hurting my feelings."
Dude should see what I put up with here.
*considers mentioning Prometheus*
*thinks better of mentioning Prometheus and does not mention Prometheus*
*does own part to keep thread Prometheus free*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 28, 2025 11:34 AM (GBKbO)
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116 I always found it interesting that Democrats always, I do mean ALWAYS, blame the messaging and not the message or their policies.
Posted by: SMOD
Their defense is something like: Polls reveal all our policies are popular with the public (carefully worded, ambiguous polls like "common sense gun control", "paid family leave", "increased minimum wage", "higher taxes on the rich")
So, if the policies are popular, but people are voting in the candidates that promise them, it MUST be messaging.
Posted by: SMOD
Their defense is something like: Polls reveal all our policies are popular with the public (carefully worded, ambiguous polls like "common sense gun control", "paid family leave", "increased minimum wage", "higher taxes on the rich")
So, if the policies are popular, but people are voting in the candidates that promise them, it MUST be messaging.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 28, 2025 11:34 AM (JCZqz)
151
The problem with popcorn at movies/ or maybe it's not a universal problem but just with FenSpouse and me: There are so many trailers that the small bag of popcorn gets almost completely eaten before the film begins.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 28, 2025 11:34 AM (CzW4u)
152
To be honest, if the Dems took affirmative steps to re-enfranchise white, working-class males, I'd be open to listening to them.
The Republican Party, with the notable exception of Donald Trump, has proven itself a poor ally for white, middle-class males, just as Democrats have long preached their promises to uplift blacks, but never produce anything of substance.
Battling traditional Democrat targets like mega-corporations, big pharma, big agriculture, and the military industrial complex, along with America-friendly policies like decoupling us from global conflict and returning the tax structure to its original format where only a small portion of the earnings of the wealthiest of elite were taxed could convince much of white, male America to vote Democrat.
Is it likely that Democrats recognize the strategy of trying to woo indigenous white working-class males could yield better results than trying to knit together various minority groups and sexual perverts? No.
But the opportunity exists. And Republicans would do well to recognize that white working-class males aren't obliged to vote for another John McCain or Mitt Romney. We aren't plantation votes like the blacks are.
The Republican Party, with the notable exception of Donald Trump, has proven itself a poor ally for white, middle-class males, just as Democrats have long preached their promises to uplift blacks, but never produce anything of substance.
Battling traditional Democrat targets like mega-corporations, big pharma, big agriculture, and the military industrial complex, along with America-friendly policies like decoupling us from global conflict and returning the tax structure to its original format where only a small portion of the earnings of the wealthiest of elite were taxed could convince much of white, male America to vote Democrat.
Is it likely that Democrats recognize the strategy of trying to woo indigenous white working-class males could yield better results than trying to knit together various minority groups and sexual perverts? No.
But the opportunity exists. And Republicans would do well to recognize that white working-class males aren't obliged to vote for another John McCain or Mitt Romney. We aren't plantation votes like the blacks are.
Posted by: Middle America at May 28, 2025 11:34 AM (7QPFF)
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I always found it interesting that Democrats always, I do mean ALWAYS, blame the messaging and not the message or their policies.
Posted by: SMOD at May 28, 2025 11:27 AM (RHGPo)
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Who knew that enslavement, poverty, misery, and eventually mass graves would not be a winning message?
Posted by: SMOD at May 28, 2025 11:27 AM (RHGPo)
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Who knew that enslavement, poverty, misery, and eventually mass graves would not be a winning message?
Posted by: ShainS at May 28, 2025 11:34 AM (uuzKD)
154
Those are the best interviews. I'm still with the temp agency that landed me the job but I work with a bunch of vets who are trying to get me on the company payroll. We got some E-4 mafia all up in this mf'er. I don't know how it'll go but their trying to get me into a position thay pays frigging 80 grand a year but I gotta interview with bigwigs way up there to get it. I'm scared. This is surreal and
pays just shy of double my average income.
I'm getting all nervous just typing about it. I've spent the last 3 months trying to make a damn good impression.
Posted by: Reforger
Best of luck to you.
pays just shy of double my average income.
I'm getting all nervous just typing about it. I've spent the last 3 months trying to make a damn good impression.
Posted by: Reforger
Best of luck to you.
Posted by: Bulg at May 28, 2025 11:34 AM (77rzZ)
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Living Near a Golf Course Can Increase Your Risk of Parkinson’s
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Now, head trauma I could understand.
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Now, head trauma I could understand.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Available In Super Size! at May 28, 2025 11:35 AM (L/fGl)
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150 Their defense is something like: Polls reveal all our policies are popular with the public (carefully worded, ambiguous polls like "common sense gun control", "paid family leave", "increased minimum wage", "higher taxes on the rich")
So, if the policies are popular, but people are voting in the candidates that promise them, it MUST be messaging.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 28, 2025 11:34 AM (JCZqz)
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I wonder how well, "open borders and more legal protections for illegal immigrants during deportation hearings than Americans for anything," polls...
So, if the policies are popular, but people are voting in the candidates that promise them, it MUST be messaging.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 28, 2025 11:34 AM (JCZqz)
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I wonder how well, "open borders and more legal protections for illegal immigrants during deportation hearings than Americans for anything," polls...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 28, 2025 11:35 AM (GBKbO)
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However, what could really be interesting is if the GOP manages to expand their House majority in the mid-terms and makes House turncoats irrelevant.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 28, 2025 11:20 AM
We stand four-square and rock-ribbed ready to protect against that contingency!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 28, 2025 11:20 AM
We stand four-square and rock-ribbed ready to protect against that contingency!
Posted by: Senators of the GOPe at May 28, 2025 11:35 AM (0sNs1)
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They just haven't yet learned that nobody is buying what they're selling. I'm mean, besides their core constituency of hard-core weirdos and marxists.
Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at May 28, 2025 11:35 AM (2VMYz)
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Right now, with the slim to almost non existent GOP House majority, it's difficult to get any really meaningful legislation passed. Too many of the GOP love having that power. At least in the Senate, the turncoats are, for the most part, marginalized.
If the situation was reversed every significant Dem initiative would still get passed by congress, and judges would mostly let everything happen.
If the situation was reversed every significant Dem initiative would still get passed by congress, and judges would mostly let everything happen.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 28, 2025 11:35 AM (t0Rmr)
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I recall Ace calling for an end to tax exemptions that wealthy people like; e.g. deductions for carrying a mortgage.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 28, 2025 11:32 AM (fxCK2)
With the really high standard deduction, only about 10% of tax filers itemize now. It’s kind of a moot point. But because only really high income people itemize now that MID goes pretty much to them.
However suggest that it gets taken away and you’ll hear screams of socialism and a war on homeowners and whatnot. Because it’s ingrained in right leaning voters to love them some MID, even if they never use it.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 28, 2025 11:32 AM (fxCK2)
With the really high standard deduction, only about 10% of tax filers itemize now. It’s kind of a moot point. But because only really high income people itemize now that MID goes pretty much to them.
However suggest that it gets taken away and you’ll hear screams of socialism and a war on homeowners and whatnot. Because it’s ingrained in right leaning voters to love them some MID, even if they never use it.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 28, 2025 11:35 AM (Y7qnM)
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Y'all, check out this official post from the State Department: https://tinyurl.com/93fwjkc9
Some quotes:
By overcoming the anchors of nationhood, culture, and tradition, global liberalism promised what Francis Fukuyama famously called the “end of history,” the ultimate innovation of political life.
Today, this promise lies in tatters. What endures instead is an aggressive campaign against Western civilization itself. Across Europe, governments have weaponized political institutions against their own citizens and against our shared heritage.
Americans are familiar with these tactics. Indeed, a similar strategy of censorship, demonization, and bureaucratic weaponization was utilized against President Trump and his supporters. What this reveals is that the global liberal project is not enabling the flourishing of democracy. Rather, it is trampling democracy, and Western heritage along with it, in the name of a decadent governing class afraid of its own people.
Rubio is quickly becoming my favorite Trump pick not named "Tom Homan".
Some quotes:
By overcoming the anchors of nationhood, culture, and tradition, global liberalism promised what Francis Fukuyama famously called the “end of history,” the ultimate innovation of political life.
Today, this promise lies in tatters. What endures instead is an aggressive campaign against Western civilization itself. Across Europe, governments have weaponized political institutions against their own citizens and against our shared heritage.
Americans are familiar with these tactics. Indeed, a similar strategy of censorship, demonization, and bureaucratic weaponization was utilized against President Trump and his supporters. What this reveals is that the global liberal project is not enabling the flourishing of democracy. Rather, it is trampling democracy, and Western heritage along with it, in the name of a decadent governing class afraid of its own people.
Rubio is quickly becoming my favorite Trump pick not named "Tom Homan".
Posted by: Ian S. at May 28, 2025 11:35 AM (2ocoG)
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151 The problem with popcorn at movies/ or maybe it's not a universal problem but just with FenSpouse and me: There are so many trailers that the small bag of popcorn gets almost completely eaten before the film begins.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 28, 2025 11:34 AM (CzW4u)
“ Considers suggesting to Fen buying the Bottomless Bucket that the theater sells”….
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 28, 2025 11:34 AM (CzW4u)
“ Considers suggesting to Fen buying the Bottomless Bucket that the theater sells”….
Posted by: tubal at May 28, 2025 11:36 AM (PCK5/)
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James Li
@5149jamesli
For months, LA fire victims have been asking: where did the $100M from the FireAid concerts go?
I followed the money — and it leads to a shadowy nonprofit called the Annenberg Foundation.
Let’s just say the rabbit hole gets dark — fast. 🤨
@5149jamesli
For months, LA fire victims have been asking: where did the $100M from the FireAid concerts go?
I followed the money — and it leads to a shadowy nonprofit called the Annenberg Foundation.
Let’s just say the rabbit hole gets dark — fast. 🤨
Posted by: SMOD at May 28, 2025 11:36 AM (RHGPo)
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The problem with popcorn at movies/ or maybe it's not a universal problem but just with FenSpouse and me: There are so many trailers that the small bag of popcorn gets almost completely eaten before the film begins.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
You gotta get the giant-sized tubs. One for each of you.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
You gotta get the giant-sized tubs. One for each of you.
Posted by: Bulg at May 28, 2025 11:36 AM (77rzZ)
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When Romney made his 47% comment, I think it was true. Now, it's more like what, 40, 43 at most? But the turd still polishes up nicely for that 40 or so.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at May 28, 2025 11:36 AM (UBKzV)
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Hell, if they had their way it would get you imprisoned and speaking of which - people have been worrying about Europeans being imprisoned for disagreeing with Islam...but there are plenty of examples already of Europeans imprisoned for anti-woke blasphemy.
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You don't have to go to Europe to find that--the bill in Colorado makes it a crime to misgender or deadname someone.
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You don't have to go to Europe to find that--the bill in Colorado makes it a crime to misgender or deadname someone.
Posted by: Crusader at May 28, 2025 11:36 AM (TN0g+)
Posted by: (not) Dr Seuss at May 28, 2025 11:36 AM (D0HYP)
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I wish someone, anyone would donate $20M to better understand why the GOP are such greasy, slimy grifting cuck losers that will molest their constituents like Lindsey Graham molests little boys.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 28, 2025 11:36 AM (/U5Yz)
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Their defense is something like: Polls reveal all our policies are popular with the public (carefully worded, ambiguous polls like "common sense gun control", "paid family leave", "increased minimum wage", "higher taxes on the rich")
I'm reminded of polling from a while back about global warming. A strong majority agreed it was real, was a danger, and must be addressed.
Another question asked the yes votes how much they'd personally be willing to spend to stop global warming and the average was $7. Not a month...total.
I'm reminded of polling from a while back about global warming. A strong majority agreed it was real, was a danger, and must be addressed.
Another question asked the yes votes how much they'd personally be willing to spend to stop global warming and the average was $7. Not a month...total.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 28, 2025 11:37 AM (t0Rmr)
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122 "But first you will blow me" is a crap message.
Posted by: ShainS at May 28, 2025 11:28 AM (YMsBZ)
Not necessarily.
Posted by: ShainS at May 28, 2025 11:28 AM (YMsBZ)
Not necessarily.
Posted by: Pete Buttigieg at May 28, 2025 11:37 AM (PiwSw)
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I'm getting all nervous just typing about it. I've spent the last 3 months trying to make a damn good impression.
Posted by: Reforger at May 28, 2025 11:33 AM (xcIvR)
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Damn that Trump economy!
Seriously, though, prayers for both of you.
Posted by: Reforger at May 28, 2025 11:33 AM (xcIvR)
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Damn that Trump economy!
Seriously, though, prayers for both of you.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 28, 2025 11:37 AM (tT6L1)
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164 The problem with popcorn at movies/ or maybe it's not a universal problem but just with FenSpouse and me: There are so many trailers that the small bag of popcorn gets almost completely eaten before the film begins.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
You gotta get the giant-sized tubs. One for each of you.
and patronize venues where the giant-sized tubs are refillable.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
You gotta get the giant-sized tubs. One for each of you.
and patronize venues where the giant-sized tubs are refillable.
Posted by: anachronda at May 28, 2025 11:37 AM (sGtp+)
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Bureau of Land Management ousts official who reportedly resisted DOGE
Michael “Mike” Nedd, a 30-year veteran of the agency, reportedly told career employees to ignore a memo from an appointee of the U.S. DOGE Service.
Michael “Mike” Nedd, a 30-year veteran of the agency, reportedly told career employees to ignore a memo from an appointee of the U.S. DOGE Service.
Posted by: SMOD at May 28, 2025 11:38 AM (RHGPo)
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Dude should see what I put up with here.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 28, 2025 11:34 AM
Dude. Seriously??? Who would discommode you in the slightest way? The Commentariat sits at your lotus feet.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 28, 2025 11:34 AM
Dude. Seriously??? Who would discommode you in the slightest way? The Commentariat sits at your lotus feet.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 28, 2025 11:38 AM (0sNs1)
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The problem with "taxes on the rich" is that income taxes don't affect the likes of Soros or Buffet - they have their money squirreled away - it hits the upper middle class and new rich who tend Republican.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 28, 2025 11:38 AM (t0Rmr)
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Good post, Joe. But I think you're off on one point...
"Inauthentic lying is the coin of the realm in politics, so much so that virtually nobody noticed it until somebody chose to not do it."
What, perhaps above all else, is the unanimous refrain of the Left in regards to Trump? Well, I guess there's a bunch of things, but near if not at the top is that Trump lies. From the no-Leftist-holds-barred Squad members to the major network news anchors and execs who try real hard (though fail horribly cuz they're too smug to put real effort in the fake) to act centrist, they all say Trump lies like it's an objective fact, like they'd say water is wet. So in their minds, Trump succeeds because HE LIES SO WELL. He doesn't succeed because he's 'authentic'; he succeeds (with minorities) because of his 'macho' (INAUTHENTIC, per the Left) messaging style, that SAM needs to overtake. I mean, he DOES succeed because of his macho style, but that's part of his authenticity. They can't concede anything to Trump because it would be a 180 on almost everything they've done the past 10+ years and thus destroy what loyal (Far Left) support they still have. You can't concede anything to Hitler.
"Inauthentic lying is the coin of the realm in politics, so much so that virtually nobody noticed it until somebody chose to not do it."
What, perhaps above all else, is the unanimous refrain of the Left in regards to Trump? Well, I guess there's a bunch of things, but near if not at the top is that Trump lies. From the no-Leftist-holds-barred Squad members to the major network news anchors and execs who try real hard (though fail horribly cuz they're too smug to put real effort in the fake) to act centrist, they all say Trump lies like it's an objective fact, like they'd say water is wet. So in their minds, Trump succeeds because HE LIES SO WELL. He doesn't succeed because he's 'authentic'; he succeeds (with minorities) because of his 'macho' (INAUTHENTIC, per the Left) messaging style, that SAM needs to overtake. I mean, he DOES succeed because of his macho style, but that's part of his authenticity. They can't concede anything to Trump because it would be a 180 on almost everything they've done the past 10+ years and thus destroy what loyal (Far Left) support they still have. You can't concede anything to Hitler.
Posted by: bearski at May 28, 2025 11:38 AM (Bhsk7)
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With the really high standard deduction, only about 10% of tax filers itemize now. It’s kind of a moot point. But because only really high income people itemize now that MID goes pretty much to them.
However suggest that it gets taken away and you’ll hear screams of socialism and a war on homeowners and whatnot. Because it’s ingrained in right leaning voters to love them some MID, even if they never use it.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 28, 2025 11:35 AM (Y7qnM)
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So...is that a biblical command here then...? Or isn't it?
However suggest that it gets taken away and you’ll hear screams of socialism and a war on homeowners and whatnot. Because it’s ingrained in right leaning voters to love them some MID, even if they never use it.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 28, 2025 11:35 AM (Y7qnM)
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So...is that a biblical command here then...? Or isn't it?
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 28, 2025 11:38 AM (oUlN5)
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Trump offers Canada a discount on Golden Dome if they agree to become the 51st state. LOL
Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 28, 2025 11:38 AM (/U5Yz)
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Thinking about those who refuse to learn...
California has passed a Bill allowing illegals to count votes in elections and serve on Election Boards. It seems to me this may not be all bad. It should negate the validity of any election going forward and thus we can disown California and all it's elected officials.
California has passed a Bill allowing illegals to count votes in elections and serve on Election Boards. It seems to me this may not be all bad. It should negate the validity of any election going forward and thus we can disown California and all it's elected officials.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 28, 2025 11:38 AM (W/lyH)
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Thank you, Blake.
Posted by: Bulg at May 28, 2025 11:38 AM (77rzZ)
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make a damn good impression.
Posted by: Reforger
Best of luck to you.
Posted by: Bulg at May 28,
Best of luck- and how did your interview go, Bulg?
Posted by: Reforger
Best of luck to you.
Posted by: Bulg at May 28,
Best of luck- and how did your interview go, Bulg?
Posted by: Piper at May 28, 2025 11:39 AM (aT5K/)
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Another question asked the yes votes how much they'd personally be willing to spend to stop global warming and the average was $7. Not a month...total.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 28, 2025 11:37 AM (t0Rmr)
Same thing with spending cuts. Most people agree spending is out of control. But is anyone willing to give up their pet spending? Of course not. Everyone wants spending cut for the other guy.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 28, 2025 11:37 AM (t0Rmr)
Same thing with spending cuts. Most people agree spending is out of control. But is anyone willing to give up their pet spending? Of course not. Everyone wants spending cut for the other guy.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 28, 2025 11:39 AM (Y7qnM)
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174 Dude should see what I put up with here.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 28, 2025 11:34 AM
Dude. Seriously??? Who would discommode you in the slightest way? The Commentariat sits at your lotus feet.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 28, 2025 11:38 AM (0sNs1)
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Not even having the ban hammer has made people like me any more.
But don't weep for me.
I'm an asshole.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 28, 2025 11:34 AM
Dude. Seriously??? Who would discommode you in the slightest way? The Commentariat sits at your lotus feet.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 28, 2025 11:38 AM (0sNs1)
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Not even having the ban hammer has made people like me any more.
But don't weep for me.
I'm an asshole.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 28, 2025 11:39 AM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Reforger at May 28, 2025 11:39 AM (xcIvR)
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Bureau of Land Management ousts official who reportedly resisted DOGE
Michael “Mike” Nedd, a 30-year veteran of the agency, reportedly told career employees to ignore a memo from an appointee of the U.S. DOGE Service.
Posted by: SMOD at May 28, 2025 11:38 AM (RHGPo)
It's these small victories that keeps my hopes up.
Michael “Mike” Nedd, a 30-year veteran of the agency, reportedly told career employees to ignore a memo from an appointee of the U.S. DOGE Service.
Posted by: SMOD at May 28, 2025 11:38 AM (RHGPo)
It's these small victories that keeps my hopes up.
Posted by: polynikes at May 28, 2025 11:39 AM (VofaG)
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‘ "Gender affirmation surgery" is a crap message.’
‘We’ll have judges block every attempt to exercise your rights.’ Is a crap message.
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‘ "Gender affirmation surgery" is a crap message.’
‘We’ll have judges block every attempt to exercise your rights.’ Is a crap message.
‘
Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 28, 2025 11:39 AM (jbnUc)
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 28, 2025 11:40 AM (Z5sYa)
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Those are the best interviews. I'm still with the temp agency that landed me the job but I work with a bunch of vets who are trying to get me on the company payroll. We got some E-4 mafia all up in this mf'er. I don't know how it'll go but their trying to get me into a position thay pays frigging 80 grand a year but I gotta interview with bigwigs way up there to get it. I'm scared. This is surreal and
pays just shy of double my average income.
I'm getting all nervous just typing about it. I've spent the last 3 months trying to make a damn good impression.
Posted by: Reforger
You got this. E-4 Mafia wouldn't back you if you weren't worth it. They don't play.
pays just shy of double my average income.
I'm getting all nervous just typing about it. I've spent the last 3 months trying to make a damn good impression.
Posted by: Reforger
You got this. E-4 Mafia wouldn't back you if you weren't worth it. They don't play.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 28, 2025 11:40 AM (R3H4W)
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Not even having the ban hammer has made people like me any more.
But don't weep for me.
I'm an asshole.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 28, 2025 11:39 AM (GBKbO)
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Too.
Many.
Jokes.
But don't weep for me.
I'm an asshole.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 28, 2025 11:39 AM (GBKbO)
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Too.
Many.
Jokes.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 28, 2025 11:40 AM (oUlN5)
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Thank you, Reforger.
Posted by: Bulg at May 28, 2025 11:40 AM (77rzZ)
191
183
Not even having the ban hammer has made people like me any more.
But don't weep for me.
I'm an asshole.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 28, 2025 11:39 AM (GBKbO)
But probably redeemable. Probably. Possibly.
Not even having the ban hammer has made people like me any more.
But don't weep for me.
I'm an asshole.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 28, 2025 11:39 AM (GBKbO)
But probably redeemable. Probably. Possibly.
Posted by: tubal at May 28, 2025 11:40 AM (PCK5/)
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185 Bureau of Land Management ousts official who reportedly resisted DOGE
Michael “Mike” Nedd, a 30-year veteran of the agency, reportedly told career employees to ignore a memo from an appointee of the U.S. DOGE Service.
Posted by: SMOD at May 28, 2025 11:38 AM (RHGPo)
It's these small victories that keeps my hopes up.
Posted by: polynikes at May 28, 2025 11:39 AM (VofaG)
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And if SMOD hadn't found it and brought it to your attention, you'd think it hadn't happened.
It's important to find ways to keep informed because most news sources don't want to do that for you.
Michael “Mike” Nedd, a 30-year veteran of the agency, reportedly told career employees to ignore a memo from an appointee of the U.S. DOGE Service.
Posted by: SMOD at May 28, 2025 11:38 AM (RHGPo)
It's these small victories that keeps my hopes up.
Posted by: polynikes at May 28, 2025 11:39 AM (VofaG)
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And if SMOD hadn't found it and brought it to your attention, you'd think it hadn't happened.
It's important to find ways to keep informed because most news sources don't want to do that for you.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 28, 2025 11:40 AM (GBKbO)
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But don't weep for me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 28, 2025 11:39 AM (GBKbO)
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Did you review "Evita" recently?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 28, 2025 11:39 AM (GBKbO)
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Did you review "Evita" recently?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 28, 2025 11:40 AM (tT6L1)
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Right now both parties are taking steps to making Congress totally irrelevant. When so-called good people do nothing........
-------------“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”
-------------“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”
Posted by: Solzhenitsyn at May 28, 2025 11:41 AM (TN0g+)
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Did I read the previous post correctly that the BBBill fully funds USAID again??
Say it ain't so.
Did I read the previous post correctly that the BBBill fully funds USAID again??
Say it ain't so.
Posted by: PJ at May 28, 2025 11:41 AM (RRCAT)
196
189 Too.
Many.
Jokes.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 28, 2025 11:40 AM (oUlN5)
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This is no time to bring up your opinion of my book!
Many.
Jokes.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 28, 2025 11:40 AM (oUlN5)
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This is no time to bring up your opinion of my book!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 28, 2025 11:41 AM (GBKbO)
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I've been playing a warhammer game recently and the "good guys" aren't that good - they are an authoritarian religion led by a god emperor that is far from perfect
but...
They keep talking about citizens having to pay the tithe and if it really is only 10% I'm going to have to change my opinion about how bad they are...
but...
They keep talking about citizens having to pay the tithe and if it really is only 10% I'm going to have to change my opinion about how bad they are...
Posted by: 18-1 at May 28, 2025 11:41 AM (t0Rmr)
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191 But probably redeemable. Probably. Possibly.
Posted by: tubal at May 28, 2025 11:40 AM (PCK5/)
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Fake news.
Posted by: tubal at May 28, 2025 11:40 AM (PCK5/)
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Fake news.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 28, 2025 11:41 AM (GBKbO)
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Not even having the ban hammer has made people like me any more.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 28, 2025 11:39 AM (GBKbO)
Maybe they are aghast at that fucking wordsmithing there, champ.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 28, 2025 11:39 AM (GBKbO)
Maybe they are aghast at that fucking wordsmithing there, champ.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 28, 2025 11:41 AM (bss/y)
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Best of luck- and how did your interview go, Bulg?
Posted by: Piper
Very well, I think. He said we would be talking again, and that HR would be in touch with me re next steps.
Posted by: Piper
Very well, I think. He said we would be talking again, and that HR would be in touch with me re next steps.
Posted by: Bulg at May 28, 2025 11:41 AM (77rzZ)
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Posted by: anachronda at May 28, 2025 11:37 AM (sGtp+)
Thanks .I shall tell FenSpouse. Truthfully, he's the one that eats most of the popcorn.
Thanks .I shall tell FenSpouse. Truthfully, he's the one that eats most of the popcorn.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 28, 2025 11:41 AM (CzW4u)
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193 Did you review "Evita" recently?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 28, 2025 11:40 AM (tT6L1)
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Watching Ozu films, I often weep these days.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 28, 2025 11:40 AM (tT6L1)
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Watching Ozu films, I often weep these days.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 28, 2025 11:42 AM (GBKbO)
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Do rich people have mortgages? I guess they might, if they think they can do better things with their wealth than buy property. But I think most wealthy people own their homes.
Posted by: Oglebay at May 28, 2025 11:42 AM (2ap+5)
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It always comes down to who runs BarterTown… and who is covered in pig shit…
Posted by: tubal at May 28, 2025 11:42 AM (PCK5/)
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We got some E-4 mafia all up in this mf'er. I don't know how it'll go but their trying to get me into a position thay pays frigging 80 grand a year but I gotta interview with bigwigs way up there to get it. I'm scared. This is surreal and
pays just shy of double my average income.
I'm getting all nervous just typing about it. I've spent the last 3 months trying to make a damn good impression.
Posted by: Reforger at May 28, 2025 11:33 AM
All right, Reforger, listen up! You got this. You've had the training. You've got the experience. You come from a long line of successful E-4s. You are NOT going to let the Team down! Do you hear me??
I said, do you hear me??????
Good. Now drop and give me twenty, then recover and get outta my office.
pays just shy of double my average income.
I'm getting all nervous just typing about it. I've spent the last 3 months trying to make a damn good impression.
Posted by: Reforger at May 28, 2025 11:33 AM
All right, Reforger, listen up! You got this. You've had the training. You've got the experience. You come from a long line of successful E-4s. You are NOT going to let the Team down! Do you hear me??
I said, do you hear me??????
Good. Now drop and give me twenty, then recover and get outta my office.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 28, 2025 11:42 AM (0sNs1)
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What is the definition of rich?
Posted by: Piper at May 28, 2025 11:42 AM (/sySz)
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175 The problem with "taxes on the rich" is that income taxes don't affect the likes of Soros or Buffet - they have their money squirreled away - it hits the upper middle class and new rich who tend Republican.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 28, 2025 11:38 AM (t0Rmr)
They still do pay a lot of taxes. Say they hide 80% of their income and it’s not taxable. The 20% that is taxable is still a lot of money.
And the next level rich - people making $10,20,30M a year, tax the piss out of them too. These are Hollywood people, sportsball stars, high end lawyers, musicians, CEOs of Fortune 500, etc. Not a lot of republicans in that group.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 28, 2025 11:38 AM (t0Rmr)
They still do pay a lot of taxes. Say they hide 80% of their income and it’s not taxable. The 20% that is taxable is still a lot of money.
And the next level rich - people making $10,20,30M a year, tax the piss out of them too. These are Hollywood people, sportsball stars, high end lawyers, musicians, CEOs of Fortune 500, etc. Not a lot of republicans in that group.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 28, 2025 11:43 AM (Y7qnM)
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206 What is the definition of rich?
Posted by: Piper at May 28, 2025 11:42 AM (/sySz)
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More than me and not politically aligned with me.
Posted by: Piper at May 28, 2025 11:42 AM (/sySz)
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More than me and not politically aligned with me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 28, 2025 11:43 AM (GBKbO)
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Not even having the ban hammer has made people like me any more.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
You could always bring back the Daily Daddario, you know.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
You could always bring back the Daily Daddario, you know.
Posted by: Bulg at May 28, 2025 11:43 AM (77rzZ)
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74
‘ So, they just continue to fuck the proverbial chicken? Or move on to more... kinetic methods?’
Fuck a moving chicken?
‘ So, they just continue to fuck the proverbial chicken? Or move on to more... kinetic methods?’
Fuck a moving chicken?
Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 28, 2025 11:43 AM (jbnUc)
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201 Posted by: anachronda at May 28, 2025 11:37 AM (sGtp+)
Thanks .I shall tell FenSpouse. Truthfully, he's the one that eats most of the popcorn.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 28, 2025 11:41 AM (CzW4u)
Uh huh, sure Fen, sure… tell that to someone who’s NOT married…
Thanks .I shall tell FenSpouse. Truthfully, he's the one that eats most of the popcorn.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 28, 2025 11:41 AM (CzW4u)
Uh huh, sure Fen, sure… tell that to someone who’s NOT married…
Posted by: tubal at May 28, 2025 11:43 AM (PCK5/)
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'm an asshole.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 28, 2025 11:39 AM (GBKbO)
I get it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 28, 2025 11:39 AM (GBKbO)
I get it.
Posted by: polynikes at May 28, 2025 11:43 AM (VofaG)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 28, 2025 11:43 AM (CzW4u)
Posted by: ... at May 28, 2025 11:44 AM (nLFwD)
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209 Not even having the ban hammer has made people like me any more.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
You could always bring back the Daily Daddario, you know.
Posted by: Bulg at May 28, 2025 11:43 AM (77rzZ)
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I tried replacing her with the Afternoon Arterton, but apparently no one thinks she's that hot.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
You could always bring back the Daily Daddario, you know.
Posted by: Bulg at May 28, 2025 11:43 AM (77rzZ)
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I tried replacing her with the Afternoon Arterton, but apparently no one thinks she's that hot.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 28, 2025 11:44 AM (GBKbO)
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Did I read the previous post correctly that the BBBill fully funds USAID again??
Say it ain't so.
Posted by: PJ at May 28, 2025 11:41 AM (RRCAT)
Did you really think it would wind up any differently? I don't mean hope. I mean with your brain, did you ACTUALLY believe it would wind up any differently?
Voting is the adult version of writing letters to Santa Claus.
Say it ain't so.
Posted by: PJ at May 28, 2025 11:41 AM (RRCAT)
Did you really think it would wind up any differently? I don't mean hope. I mean with your brain, did you ACTUALLY believe it would wind up any differently?
Voting is the adult version of writing letters to Santa Claus.
Posted by: Middle America at May 28, 2025 11:44 AM (7QPFF)
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Do rich people have mortgages? I guess they might, if they think they can do better things with their wealth than buy property. But I think most wealthy people own their homes.
Posted by: Oglebay at May 28, 2025 11:42 AM (2ap+5)
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My wife and I are not rich but we own our house. Last time I looked, something like 30% of homeowners in the US own their homes outright. I don't think wealth has anything to do with it.
Posted by: Oglebay at May 28, 2025 11:42 AM (2ap+5)
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My wife and I are not rich but we own our house. Last time I looked, something like 30% of homeowners in the US own their homes outright. I don't think wealth has anything to do with it.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 28, 2025 11:44 AM (tT6L1)
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This is no time to bring up your opinion of my book!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 28, 2025 11:41 AM (GBKbO)
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Hey, I still have it on my Kindle!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 28, 2025 11:41 AM (GBKbO)
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Hey, I still have it on my Kindle!
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 28, 2025 11:44 AM (oUlN5)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 28, 2025 11:44 AM (Y7qnM)
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One problem with "soak the rich" taxes is rich people are in the position to demand their incomes be grossed up for taxes.
Posted by: Oglebay at May 28, 2025 11:44 AM (2ap+5)
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Leftist Verbiage and Obfuscation Adjectives -
A classic, is when anyone who proffers even the slightest objection (verbal only, natch) to millions and millions of foreign nationals pouring across our borders illegally is branded an “immigration hardliner”. It is to laugh.
Decades ago the global one world government demons explained what needed to be done to effect their Utopia. God, country, family - had to be destroyed. Community. Language, borders, culture.
Pretty much everything we see, the dysfunction and lunacy, is engineered specifically to create the conditions necessary. Everything. Once you understand the playbook, the goals and intentions, it is impossible not to notice. The rot runs very deep.
A classic, is when anyone who proffers even the slightest objection (verbal only, natch) to millions and millions of foreign nationals pouring across our borders illegally is branded an “immigration hardliner”. It is to laugh.
Decades ago the global one world government demons explained what needed to be done to effect their Utopia. God, country, family - had to be destroyed. Community. Language, borders, culture.
Pretty much everything we see, the dysfunction and lunacy, is engineered specifically to create the conditions necessary. Everything. Once you understand the playbook, the goals and intentions, it is impossible not to notice. The rot runs very deep.
Posted by: Common Tater at May 28, 2025 11:44 AM (wO3Gh)
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Thank you, Fen. This is a really interesting company, and fits my experience and skill set.
Posted by: Bulg at May 28, 2025 11:45 AM (77rzZ)
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What is the definition of rich?
Generally the FNM/government consider $250K/year rich.
So again those aren't the idle rich that are the backbone of the left.
Some of them are tech workers/fed gov leaders that do, but a lot more own small business or are middle management in corporations.
Generally the FNM/government consider $250K/year rich.
So again those aren't the idle rich that are the backbone of the left.
Some of them are tech workers/fed gov leaders that do, but a lot more own small business or are middle management in corporations.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 28, 2025 11:45 AM (t0Rmr)
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Very well, I think. He said we would be talking again, and that HR would be in touch with me re next steps.
Posted by: Bulg at May 28, 2025 11:41 AM (77rzZ)
Sounds promising! the best interviews are not Q & A sessions but ones that are just a chat.
Fingers crossed.
Posted by: Bulg at May 28, 2025 11:41 AM (77rzZ)
Sounds promising! the best interviews are not Q & A sessions but ones that are just a chat.
Fingers crossed.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 28, 2025 11:46 AM (W/lyH)
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I tried replacing her with the Afternoon Arterton, but apparently no one thinks she's that hot.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Thus my suggestion to bring back Daddario.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Thus my suggestion to bring back Daddario.
Posted by: Bulg at May 28, 2025 11:46 AM (77rzZ)
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Do rich people have mortgages?
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They absolutely do.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 28, 2025 11:44 AM (Y7qnM)
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Do they have lemonade stands you can tax too?
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They absolutely do.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 28, 2025 11:44 AM (Y7qnM)
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Do they have lemonade stands you can tax too?
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 28, 2025 11:46 AM (oUlN5)
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Jorge Bonilla@BonillaJL
MSNBC is now mad that the FBI will investigate White House cocaine, the Dobbs leak, and the J6 pipe bomber
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Those felonies were already overlooked! No fair launching zombie investigations!
MSNBC is now mad that the FBI will investigate White House cocaine, the Dobbs leak, and the J6 pipe bomber
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Those felonies were already overlooked! No fair launching zombie investigations!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Available In Super Size! at May 28, 2025 11:46 AM (L/fGl)
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185 Bureau of Land Management ousts official who reportedly resisted DOGE
Michael “Mike” Nedd, a 30-year veteran of the agency, reportedly told career employees to ignore a memo from an appointee of the U.S. DOGE Service.
Posted by: SMOD at May 28, 2025 11:38 AM (RHGPo)
It's these small victories that keeps my hopes up.
Posted by: polynikes at May 28, 2025 11:39 AM (VofaG)
Did Congress not also completely ignore DOGE?
Michael “Mike” Nedd, a 30-year veteran of the agency, reportedly told career employees to ignore a memo from an appointee of the U.S. DOGE Service.
Posted by: SMOD at May 28, 2025 11:38 AM (RHGPo)
It's these small victories that keeps my hopes up.
Posted by: polynikes at May 28, 2025 11:39 AM (VofaG)
Did Congress not also completely ignore DOGE?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 28, 2025 11:46 AM (KbCG3)
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E-4 Mafia wouldn't back you if you weren't worth it. They don't play.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 28, 2025 11:40 AM
I was reliably informed by an E-4 that the E-4 Mafia is a myth.
An E-4 would never lie to an O, correct?
Posted by: rickb223 at May 28, 2025 11:40 AM
I was reliably informed by an E-4 that the E-4 Mafia is a myth.
An E-4 would never lie to an O, correct?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 28, 2025 11:46 AM (0sNs1)
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Posted by: tubal at May 28, 2025 11:43 AM (
LOL. I am unable to comment on the popcorn consumption of other married couples. These popcorn kinks are their own private business. Actually, I can't remember ever going to the movies with another married couple.
LOL. I am unable to comment on the popcorn consumption of other married couples. These popcorn kinks are their own private business. Actually, I can't remember ever going to the movies with another married couple.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 28, 2025 11:47 AM (CzW4u)
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My wife and I are not rich but we own our house. Last time I looked, something like 30% of homeowners in the US own their homes outright. I don't think wealth has anything to do with it.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 28, 2025 11:44 AM (tT6L1)
With rates as low as they’ve been over the past couple of decades, there’s really no point in buying cash. Or paying off the mortgage early. At 10%? Good idea. At 3%? Not so much. Even at 6% where we are now you’re better off with a mortgage and investing the cash elsewhere.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 28, 2025 11:44 AM (tT6L1)
With rates as low as they’ve been over the past couple of decades, there’s really no point in buying cash. Or paying off the mortgage early. At 10%? Good idea. At 3%? Not so much. Even at 6% where we are now you’re better off with a mortgage and investing the cash elsewhere.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 28, 2025 11:47 AM (Y7qnM)
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Generally the FNM/government consider $250K/year rich.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 28, 2025 11:45 AM (t0Rmr)
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250K a year is considered rich? Back around 1980 it was an amazing amount of money. These days, it's doing quite well, but, rich? Nope.
Generally the FNM/government consider $250K/year rich.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 28, 2025 11:45 AM (t0Rmr)
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250K a year is considered rich? Back around 1980 it was an amazing amount of money. These days, it's doing quite well, but, rich? Nope.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 28, 2025 11:47 AM (tT6L1)
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I used the bottomless popcorn bucket and got nothing but grief over it.
Posted by: Pee-Wee's Big Adventure at May 28, 2025 11:47 AM (G5+As)
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I tried replacing her with the Afternoon Arterton, but apparently no one thinks she's that hot.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 28, 2025 11:44 AM (GBKbO)
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You could try the Nghtly Knightley.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 28, 2025 11:44 AM (GBKbO)
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You could try the Nghtly Knightley.
Posted by: ShainS at May 28, 2025 11:47 AM (kHWyE)
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‘ They have been trained to hate liberals and Democrats, women, gays, etc.’
Yes. I have been trained. By liberals and democrats.
‘ They have been trained to hate liberals and Democrats, women, gays, etc.’
Yes. I have been trained. By liberals and democrats.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 28, 2025 11:48 AM (jbnUc)
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The problem with popcorn at movies/ or maybe it's not a universal problem but just with FenSpouse and me: There are so many trailers that the small bag of popcorn gets almost completely eaten before the film begins.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
You gotta get the giant-sized tubs. One for each of you.
Posted by: Bulg at May 28, 2025 11:36 AM (77rzZ)
I saw the latest Cruise MI last weekend… and chuckled at videos on X of how Cruise eats popcorn
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
You gotta get the giant-sized tubs. One for each of you.
Posted by: Bulg at May 28, 2025 11:36 AM (77rzZ)
I saw the latest Cruise MI last weekend… and chuckled at videos on X of how Cruise eats popcorn
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 28, 2025 11:48 AM (ZtAny)
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Fuck a moving chicken?
Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 28, 2025 11:43 AM
In fairness, that might interfere with its timely crossing of the road.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 28, 2025 11:43 AM
In fairness, that might interfere with its timely crossing of the road.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 28, 2025 11:48 AM (0sNs1)
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I wonder how well, "open borders and more legal protections for illegal immigrants during deportation hearings than Americans for anything," polls...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
That's not the carefully worded polling they'd use. Let me do a quick search...
"Support for allowing undocumented immigrants brought to the US as children to stay" polls well, especially if tweaked with “to stay and become citizens if they meet certain requirements,” or allowing them “to stay and become legal residents, but not citizens."
72% of respondents favored “allowing illegal immigrants brought to the U.S. as children to gain legal resident status if they join the military or go to college.”
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
That's not the carefully worded polling they'd use. Let me do a quick search...
"Support for allowing undocumented immigrants brought to the US as children to stay" polls well, especially if tweaked with “to stay and become citizens if they meet certain requirements,” or allowing them “to stay and become legal residents, but not citizens."
72% of respondents favored “allowing illegal immigrants brought to the U.S. as children to gain legal resident status if they join the military or go to college.”
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 28, 2025 11:48 AM (JCZqz)
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Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Available In Super Size! at May 28, 2025 11:46 AM
Someone needs to do a parody version of the song "Cocaine" based on Hunter Biden and the rest of the Biden cabal.
Someone needs to do a parody version of the song "Cocaine" based on Hunter Biden and the rest of the Biden cabal.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 28, 2025 11:48 AM (CzW4u)
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I tried replacing her with the Afternoon Arterton, but apparently no one thinks she's that hot.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 28, 2025 11:44 AM (GBKbO)
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You could try the Nghtly Knightley.
Posted by: ShainS at May 28, 2025 11:47 AM (kHWyE)
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I was thinking Wednesdays with Jill Wagner.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 28, 2025 11:44 AM (GBKbO)
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You could try the Nghtly Knightley.
Posted by: ShainS at May 28, 2025 11:47 AM (kHWyE)
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I was thinking Wednesdays with Jill Wagner.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 28, 2025 11:49 AM (W/lyH)
Posted by: Bulg at May 28, 2025 11:49 AM (77rzZ)
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219 Do rich people have mortgages?
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They absolutely do.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 28, 2025 11:44 AM (Y7qnM)
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Yes! I am one up on the rich!
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They absolutely do.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 28, 2025 11:44 AM (Y7qnM)
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Yes! I am one up on the rich!
Posted by: Oglebay at May 28, 2025 11:49 AM (2ap+5)
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Do rich people have mortgages?
Posted by: Oglebay at May 28, 2025 11:42 AM (2ap+5)
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Smart ones do.
Posted by: Oglebay at May 28, 2025 11:42 AM (2ap+5)
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Smart ones do.
Posted by: IrishEi at May 28, 2025 11:49 AM (3ImbR)
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My definition of rich and wealthy is not needing to work or any salary.
Financially independent.
Financially independent.
Posted by: ShainS at May 28, 2025 11:49 AM (kHWyE)
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The Leftist vision is a world without laughter, or even humor…
Posted by: tubal at May 28, 2025 11:50 AM (PCK5/)
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Gal Gadot...um, the day isn't really important.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 28, 2025 11:50 AM (oUlN5)
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72% of respondents favored “allowing illegal immigrants brought to the U.S. as children to gain legal resident status if they join the military or go to college.”
Which means a bunch of Republicans are cool with it, as long as they are indebted to the government via student loans for 20 years or can be volunteered up to go fight Jew wars in the Middle East.
Which means a bunch of Republicans are cool with it, as long as they are indebted to the government via student loans for 20 years or can be volunteered up to go fight Jew wars in the Middle East.
Posted by: Middle America at May 28, 2025 11:51 AM (7QPFF)
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My definition of rich and wealthy is not needing to work or any salary.
Financially independent.
Posted by: ShainS at May 28, 2025 11:49 AM (kHWyE)
That’s as good a definition as any. I’m not rich
Financially independent.
Posted by: ShainS at May 28, 2025 11:49 AM (kHWyE)
That’s as good a definition as any. I’m not rich
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 28, 2025 11:51 AM (ZtAny)
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 28, 2025 11:51 AM (oUlN5)
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245 The Leftist vision is a world without laughter, or even humor…
Posted by: tubal at May 28, 2025 11:50 AM (PCK5/)
And we're just the people to deliver!
Posted by: tubal at May 28, 2025 11:50 AM (PCK5/)
And we're just the people to deliver!
Posted by: Stephen Colbert, Jimmy Kimmel Fallon, Seth Myers, John Oliver, et. al. at May 28, 2025 11:52 AM (PiwSw)
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Do rich people have mortgages?
Posted by: Oglebay at May 28, 2025 11:42 AM (2ap+5)
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Smart ones do.
Posted by: IrishEi
There's a financial planner in the DC area named Ric Edelman. He used to have a radio show on Saturdays. He believed that no one should ever pay off their mortgage. I don't remember his reasoning.
All I can say is, given my lack of employment for the last two years, I'm glad we paid ours off.
Posted by: Oglebay at May 28, 2025 11:42 AM (2ap+5)
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Smart ones do.
Posted by: IrishEi
There's a financial planner in the DC area named Ric Edelman. He used to have a radio show on Saturdays. He believed that no one should ever pay off their mortgage. I don't remember his reasoning.
All I can say is, given my lack of employment for the last two years, I'm glad we paid ours off.
Posted by: Bulg at May 28, 2025 11:52 AM (77rzZ)
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The hamassholes just killed 5 gazans for breaking into the looted food supplies.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 28, 2025 11:53 AM (NVNRw)
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The Leftist vision is a world without laughter, or even humor…
Posted by: tubal
Just like Khomeini's characterization of Islam.
Posted by: tubal
Just like Khomeini's characterization of Islam.
Posted by: Bulg at May 28, 2025 11:53 AM (77rzZ)
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 28, 2025 11:53 AM (oUlN5)
Posted by: one hour sober at May 28, 2025 11:54 AM (Y1sOo)
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The Leftist vision is a world without laughter, or even humor…
Posted by: tubal at May 28, 20
25 11:50 AM (PCK5/)
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So, like the mullahs in Iran, then.
Posted by: tubal at May 28, 20
25 11:50 AM (PCK5/)
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So, like the mullahs in Iran, then.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at May 28, 2025 11:54 AM (6YdsJ)
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There's a financial planner in the DC area named Ric Edelman. He used to have a radio show on Saturdays. He believed that no one should ever pay off their mortgage. I don't remember his reasoning.
All I can say is, given my lack of employment for the last two years, I'm glad we paid ours off.
Posted by: Bulg at May 28, 2025 11:52 AM (77rzZ)
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And I think Edelman is insane. Beyond a certain point, one should have their house paid for. Last thing I want to worry about after age 60 is a mortgage which has 10 or 20 years left on it.
All I can say is, given my lack of employment for the last two years, I'm glad we paid ours off.
Posted by: Bulg at May 28, 2025 11:52 AM (77rzZ)
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And I think Edelman is insane. Beyond a certain point, one should have their house paid for. Last thing I want to worry about after age 60 is a mortgage which has 10 or 20 years left on it.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 28, 2025 11:54 AM (tT6L1)
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251 There's a financial planner in the DC area named Ric Edelman. He used to have a radio show on Saturdays. He believed that no one should ever pay off their mortgage. I don't remember his reasoning.
All I can say is, given my lack of employment for the last two years, I'm glad we paid ours off.
Posted by: Bulg at May 28, 2025 11:52 AM (77rzZ)
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Probably advice that works decently in low interest eras if managed correctly.
Essentially, viewing the difference between the interest rate on the mortgage and opportunity cost of other investments and deciding that spending the difference makes is almost like free money, or something.
Probably something along those lines.
All I can say is, given my lack of employment for the last two years, I'm glad we paid ours off.
Posted by: Bulg at May 28, 2025 11:52 AM (77rzZ)
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Probably advice that works decently in low interest eras if managed correctly.
Essentially, viewing the difference between the interest rate on the mortgage and opportunity cost of other investments and deciding that spending the difference makes is almost like free money, or something.
Probably something along those lines.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 28, 2025 11:54 AM (GBKbO)
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Thank you everyone.
I really should get back to bed. Swing shift and all. I was up til 2 last night and back up at 5:30 when the wife got up.
I really should get back to bed. Swing shift and all. I was up til 2 last night and back up at 5:30 when the wife got up.
Posted by: Reforger at May 28, 2025 11:54 AM (xcIvR)
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being over 29 most of my investments are very conservative. I would not get a 6% mortgage.
I have a very small fixed income but I live frugally and have no debt. Lends to a less stressful existence.
I have a very small fixed income but I live frugally and have no debt. Lends to a less stressful existence.
Posted by: polynikes at May 28, 2025 11:55 AM (VofaG)
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Hetero Males = patriarchy/misogyny = oppressor/colonizer = evil/racist
It's that simple in their simple minds.
It's that simple in their simple minds.
Posted by: proudvastrightwingguy at May 28, 2025 11:55 AM (Ovc06)
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Someone needs to do a parody version of the song "Cocaine" based on Hunter Biden and the rest of the Biden cabal.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 28, 2025 11:48 AM (CzW4u)
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Conservative talk radio show host Bob Frantz did a great one a few years ago "Crack's in the Cradle:"
youtube.com/watch?v=qIzkghGa_HU
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 28, 2025 11:48 AM (CzW4u)
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Conservative talk radio show host Bob Frantz did a great one a few years ago "Crack's in the Cradle:"
youtube.com/watch?v=qIzkghGa_HU
Posted by: ShainS at May 28, 2025 11:55 AM (kHWyE)
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Even the gender gap -- which had long benefited Democrats -- helped Republicans in 2024 as men swung harder to the right.
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This actually started long before. 2016 in particular was a watershed. Democrats had a Problem. Women, “Minorities”,, everything. By 2019 it was Defcon 1 time. I surmised Democrats would need a Distraction. Well, they got one. The WuHan Flu. Mr. Trump was handily cruising to an easy landslide re-election. Many believe the election was stolen, as the leftist machine, the corrupt media, could not abide that their favored pet demographics had long ago left the plantation.
Without the millions and millions of looted Treasury money, leftists are about as popular as Herpes. It’s all been 24/7 gaslighting since the 1990s, the Democrats are (largely) the legislative wing of the Media Party. Brainwash the easily suggestive children, lots of drugs and other sexual distractions. They’ve an Army of wind up toys, and have deployed them far and wide.
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This actually started long before. 2016 in particular was a watershed. Democrats had a Problem. Women, “Minorities”,, everything. By 2019 it was Defcon 1 time. I surmised Democrats would need a Distraction. Well, they got one. The WuHan Flu. Mr. Trump was handily cruising to an easy landslide re-election. Many believe the election was stolen, as the leftist machine, the corrupt media, could not abide that their favored pet demographics had long ago left the plantation.
Without the millions and millions of looted Treasury money, leftists are about as popular as Herpes. It’s all been 24/7 gaslighting since the 1990s, the Democrats are (largely) the legislative wing of the Media Party. Brainwash the easily suggestive children, lots of drugs and other sexual distractions. They’ve an Army of wind up toys, and have deployed them far and wide.
Posted by: Common Tater at May 28, 2025 11:55 AM (J+7DF)
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Why does Fen know about a song entitled "Cocaine?"
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Thx Joe. The Dems can't learn. If they did it would mean that everything they believed in and everything they did in their political lives was a lie that lead to death and destruction. They are prisoners of their past actions.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 28, 2025 11:57 AM (eDGGN)
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257 There's a financial planner in the DC area named Ric Edelman. He used to have a radio show on Saturdays. He believed that no one should ever pay off their mortgage. I don't remember his reasoning.
All I can say is, given my lack of employment for the last two years, I'm glad we paid ours off.
Posted by: Bulg at May 28, 2025 11:52 AM (77rzZ)
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And I think Edelman is insane. Beyond a certain point, one should have their house paid for. Last thing I want to worry about after age 60 is a mortgage which has 10 or 20 years left on it.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 28, 2025 11:54 AM (tT6L1)
A matter of interest rate vs. rate on return for the money you don't use on a mortgage.
The basis is that you will be building a nice passive nest egg to offset any worry.
All I can say is, given my lack of employment for the last two years, I'm glad we paid ours off.
Posted by: Bulg at May 28, 2025 11:52 AM (77rzZ)
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And I think Edelman is insane. Beyond a certain point, one should have their house paid for. Last thing I want to worry about after age 60 is a mortgage which has 10 or 20 years left on it.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 28, 2025 11:54 AM (tT6L1)
A matter of interest rate vs. rate on return for the money you don't use on a mortgage.
The basis is that you will be building a nice passive nest egg to offset any worry.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 28, 2025 11:58 AM (KbCG3)
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The ideal set up by the Party was something huge, terrible, and glittering, a world of steel and concrete, of monstrous machines and terrifying weapons, a nation of warriors and fanatics, marching forward in perfect unity, all thinking the same thoughts and shouting the same slogans, perpetually working, fighting, triumphing, persecuting, three hundred million people all with the same face. The reality was decaying, dingy cities where underfed people shuffled to and fro in leaky shoes, in patched-up nineteenth-century houses that smelt always of cabbage and bad lavatories.
Posted by: The Party Ideal at May 28, 2025 11:58 AM (WeTZq)
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Lord, I know that it is difficult for a rich man to humble himself before you. But I feel ready to face this trial.
Posted by: Oglebay at May 28, 2025 11:58 AM (2ap+5)
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If you wanna get hot, you better light her up
Propane
If you wanna cook down, down on the ground
Propane
She will fry
She will fry
She will fry
Propane
Propane
If you wanna cook down, down on the ground
Propane
She will fry
She will fry
She will fry
Propane
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at May 28, 2025 11:59 AM (6YdsJ)
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 28, 2025 11:59 AM (oUlN5)
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249 Do you work for your money, or does your money work for you?
And do you have a lemonade stand?
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 28, 2025 11:51 AM (oUlN5)
Kid, this is an unpermitted lemonade stand. Turn around and put your hands on your head. PUT YOUR FUCKING HANDS ON YOUR HEAD!!! *BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM* STOP RESISTING!!!! *BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM*
And do you have a lemonade stand?
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 28, 2025 11:51 AM (oUlN5)
Kid, this is an unpermitted lemonade stand. Turn around and put your hands on your head. PUT YOUR FUCKING HANDS ON YOUR HEAD!!! *BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM* STOP RESISTING!!!! *BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM*
Posted by: The 8-year-old boy's baffled expression made me fear for my life at May 28, 2025 11:59 AM (TbWk/)
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You seem to take it very personally when someone pushes back on irrational absolutism. Are you OK...?
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 28, 2025 11:21 AM (oUlN5)
It's Moo Moo.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 28, 2025 11:21 AM (oUlN5)
It's Moo Moo.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 28, 2025 11:59 AM (AGnKw)
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2016 in particular was a watershed. Democrats had a Problem. Women, “Minorities”,, everything.
The various "oppressed minority" interest groups have grown as percentages of the Dem voter block, so they can start demanding more in exchange for their votes. However, many of these groups are diametrically opposed to each other, and are getting wise to the Dem leadership's attempts to stall and placate without actually delivering.
Biden and Harris' failure to protect Hamas from Israel cost them a LOT of Muslim votes, for example. They still have to hype up women, as they are the activist core of the party, and that is turning men away...and reasonable women.
The various "oppressed minority" interest groups have grown as percentages of the Dem voter block, so they can start demanding more in exchange for their votes. However, many of these groups are diametrically opposed to each other, and are getting wise to the Dem leadership's attempts to stall and placate without actually delivering.
Biden and Harris' failure to protect Hamas from Israel cost them a LOT of Muslim votes, for example. They still have to hype up women, as they are the activist core of the party, and that is turning men away...and reasonable women.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 28, 2025 12:00 PM (JCZqz)
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Lord, I know that it is difficult for a rich man to humble himself before you. But I feel ready to face this trial.
Posted by: Oglebay
I realize it's no shame to be poor. But it's no great honor, either. So what would be so terrible if I had a small fortune?
-- Tevye the Milkman.
Posted by: Oglebay
I realize it's no shame to be poor. But it's no great honor, either. So what would be so terrible if I had a small fortune?
-- Tevye the Milkman.
Posted by: Bulg at May 28, 2025 12:00 PM (77rzZ)
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Lord, I know that it is difficult for a rich man to humble himself before you. But I feel ready to face this trial.
Posted by: Oglebay at May 28, 2025 11:58 AM (2ap+5)
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lol
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lol
Posted by: ShainS at May 28, 2025 12:00 PM (kHWyE)
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President Trump’s newly appointed Crypto and AI Czar, David Sacks: “This is the financial system of the future, Jessie, and we have to encourage it. What the Biden administration was doing—and let’s face it, it wasn’t Biden—Elizabeth Warren controlled the autopen during that administration.
Posted by: SMOD at May 28, 2025 12:01 PM (RHGPo)
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Clown-King Charles gives land acknowledgment during speech in Canada
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This used to be Indian land. Now it's mine.
Neener neener!
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This used to be Indian land. Now it's mine.
Neener neener!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Available In Super Size! at May 28, 2025 12:01 PM (L/fGl)
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Do rich people have mortgages? I guess they might, if they think they can do better things with their wealth than buy property. But I think most wealthy people own their homes.
It is very common in my upper class blue area for people to claim:
I am taxed too much, we need to move taxes onto the rich, because I can barely pay the mortgage on my multi-million dollar mansion, my two new luxury SUVs/EVs, my nanny, my maid, my cook, and still take two vacations to Europe a year.
It is very common in my upper class blue area for people to claim:
I am taxed too much, we need to move taxes onto the rich, because I can barely pay the mortgage on my multi-million dollar mansion, my two new luxury SUVs/EVs, my nanny, my maid, my cook, and still take two vacations to Europe a year.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 28, 2025 12:01 PM (t0Rmr)
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he basis is that you will be building a nice passive nest egg to offset any worry.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 28, 2025 11:58 AM (KbCG3)
The rate of return on conservative investment vehicles doesn't much exceed 6% these days.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 28, 2025 11:58 AM (KbCG3)
The rate of return on conservative investment vehicles doesn't much exceed 6% these days.
Posted by: polynikes at May 28, 2025 12:01 PM (VofaG)
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Democrats just aren't authentic and normal folks can see, hear, and smell it miles away
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Posted by: Bulg at May 28, 2025 11:56 AM (77rzZ)
Because I like lots of Eric Clapton's stuff and that was on a CD that FenSpouse had for a long time.
I have never actually tried cocaine. I think that would not be a good idea for me, even if I knew a dealer. Although I don't really "get" the lyrics- "She don't lie, She don't lie -cocaine" since basically the previous lyrics are entirely a lie- that you can't do any of those things or you can't function without cocaine.
Because I like lots of Eric Clapton's stuff and that was on a CD that FenSpouse had for a long time.
I have never actually tried cocaine. I think that would not be a good idea for me, even if I knew a dealer. Although I don't really "get" the lyrics- "She don't lie, She don't lie -cocaine" since basically the previous lyrics are entirely a lie- that you can't do any of those things or you can't function without cocaine.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 28, 2025 12:01 PM (CzW4u)
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269 If you wanna get hot, you better light her up
Propane
If you wanna cook down, down on the ground
Propane
She will fry
She will fry
She will fry
Propane
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea
Reminds me of the King of the Hill version of the Neon Genesis Evangelion intro. Pretty good:
https://tinyurl.com/2s4dv434
Propane
If you wanna cook down, down on the ground
Propane
She will fry
She will fry
She will fry
Propane
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea
Reminds me of the King of the Hill version of the Neon Genesis Evangelion intro. Pretty good:
https://tinyurl.com/2s4dv434
Posted by: Moron Analyst at May 28, 2025 12:02 PM (JCZqz)
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I'm listening to a book about church history. The book has me thinking it would be good if Trump renamed Istanbul to Constantinople.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at May 28, 2025 12:02 PM (SXxzC)
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A matter of interest rate vs. rate on return for the money you don't use on a mortgage.
The basis is that you will be building a nice passive nest egg to offset any worry.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 28, 2025 11:58 AM (KbCG3)
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Bingo.
The basis is that you will be building a nice passive nest egg to offset any worry.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 28, 2025 11:58 AM (KbCG3)
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Bingo.
Posted by: IrishEi at May 28, 2025 12:02 PM (3ImbR)
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He believed that no one should ever pay off their mortgage. ...
All I can say is, given my lack of employment for the last two years, I'm glad we paid ours off.
Posted by: Bulg at May 28, 2025 11:52 AM (77rzZ)
Very low interest rates coupled with robust stock market (or other investment) growth is the only reason not to pay off a mortgage.
And that is a temporary condition. Paying off a mortgage is usually a very good idea.
All I can say is, given my lack of employment for the last two years, I'm glad we paid ours off.
Posted by: Bulg at May 28, 2025 11:52 AM (77rzZ)
Very low interest rates coupled with robust stock market (or other investment) growth is the only reason not to pay off a mortgage.
And that is a temporary condition. Paying off a mortgage is usually a very good idea.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at May 28, 2025 12:02 PM (L5An7)
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>> 72% of respondents favored “allowing illegal immigrants brought to the U.S. as children to gain legal resident status if they join the military or go to college.”
This country is tarded.
This country is tarded.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 28, 2025 12:02 PM (l3YAf)
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[CORRECTION:] My definition of rich and wealthy is not needing to work or any salary income.
Financially independent.
Financially independent.
Posted by: ShainS at May 28, 2025 12:03 PM (kHWyE)
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He used to have a radio show on Saturdays. He believed that no one should ever pay off their mortgage. I don't remember his reasoning.
Presuming you have a low mortgage rate and can move your money into a higher paying investment it does make sense.
Imagine a 3% mortgage when you have access to say a 4% savings account. If you pay the minimum a month and put your extra into the savings account (baring tax implications) you will come out ahead.
Presuming you have a low mortgage rate and can move your money into a higher paying investment it does make sense.
Imagine a 3% mortgage when you have access to say a 4% savings account. If you pay the minimum a month and put your extra into the savings account (baring tax implications) you will come out ahead.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 28, 2025 12:03 PM (t0Rmr)
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And that is a temporary condition. Paying off a mortgage is usually a very good idea.
I never saw a good reason to owe the bank. Just a good excuse.
I never saw a good reason to owe the bank. Just a good excuse.
Posted by: Mike Armstrong at May 28, 2025 12:04 PM (jQTUu)
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It isn't just a problem of crap messaging. We need to stop sugarcoating it;
Black communities have been deliberately destroyed and maintained in poverty for decades by the Dems. They've been maintained at a specific level of population with eugenics with a veneer of "reproductive choice" slapped on top.
Latino citizens see the Dems flooding us with peasant illegals used as shock troops and know what is going on. They see the commies and grifters many of them fled being elevated and amplified.
In any event it's obvious by now this is just another 2-4 year pause before the Dems continue on with their long march to 1917 part 2. Trump is better than no Trump but the majority of the GOP are grifters. War is coming.
Black communities have been deliberately destroyed and maintained in poverty for decades by the Dems. They've been maintained at a specific level of population with eugenics with a veneer of "reproductive choice" slapped on top.
Latino citizens see the Dems flooding us with peasant illegals used as shock troops and know what is going on. They see the commies and grifters many of them fled being elevated and amplified.
In any event it's obvious by now this is just another 2-4 year pause before the Dems continue on with their long march to 1917 part 2. Trump is better than no Trump but the majority of the GOP are grifters. War is coming.
Posted by: heya at May 28, 2025 12:04 PM (U81rV)
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>> The book has me thinking it would be good if Trump renamed Istanbul to Constantinople.
That’s nobody’s business but the Knights Templar 2.0.
That’s nobody’s business but the Knights Templar 2.0.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 28, 2025 12:04 PM (l3YAf)
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‘ Do they have lemonade stands you can tax too?
Posted by: WitchDoktor’
You’re like the Inspector Javert of hoisting Moo Moo by his own petard.
‘ Do they have lemonade stands you can tax too?
Posted by: WitchDoktor’
You’re like the Inspector Javert of hoisting Moo Moo by his own petard.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 28, 2025 12:04 PM (jbnUc)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 28, 2025 12:04 PM (CzW4u)
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"In the 2016 campaign, everyone went to the Iowa fair in their brand new blue jeans and flannel shirts - just like you rubes! It's what they all do. Except Trump, who showed up in his New York suit and his helicopter. He wasn't going to pretend to be a blue jeans and flannel guy (unlike Elizabeth Warren when she pretended to be a beer-drinker) for the rubes."
Mannix, this is such an important point. You could see Ted Cruz' expression change as he saw in real time that everyone wanted to see Trump at that fair. People didn't care that he was rich - they cared that he was actually relatable. That made all the difference.
Mannix, this is such an important point. You could see Ted Cruz' expression change as he saw in real time that everyone wanted to see Trump at that fair. People didn't care that he was rich - they cared that he was actually relatable. That made all the difference.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 28, 2025 12:05 PM (h7aVz)
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And that is a temporary condition. Paying off a mortgage is usually a very good idea.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at May 28, 2025 12:02 PM (L5An7)
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Paying off my house with proceeds from the sale of my Mom's house was one of the better things I did for my finances.
Now, if I could only do something about the property tax...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at May 28, 2025 12:02 PM (L5An7)
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Paying off my house with proceeds from the sale of my Mom's house was one of the better things I did for my finances.
Now, if I could only do something about the property tax...
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at May 28, 2025 12:06 PM (6YdsJ)
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72% of respondents favored “allowing illegal immigrants brought to the U.S. as children to gain legal resident status if they join the military or go to college.”
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 28, 2025 11:48 AM (JCZqz)
I can't figure out where the line is for the pro illegal immigrant advocates. If a guy shows up at our border with a suitcase containing the corpse of a small child and a kilo of fentanyl under one arm while waving a handgun around with the other, he can't be denied entry because he hasn't had due process.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 28, 2025 11:48 AM (JCZqz)
I can't figure out where the line is for the pro illegal immigrant advocates. If a guy shows up at our border with a suitcase containing the corpse of a small child and a kilo of fentanyl under one arm while waving a handgun around with the other, he can't be denied entry because he hasn't had due process.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at May 28, 2025 12:06 PM (pIfcn)
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Although I don't really "get" the lyrics- "She don't lie, She don't lie -cocaine" since basically the previous lyrics are entirely a lie- that you can't do any of those things or you can't function without cocaine.
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Fen, lyrics 1: have to hold the beat, and 2: kind of relate, if not actually rhyme.
Nothing there about making sense.
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Fen, lyrics 1: have to hold the beat, and 2: kind of relate, if not actually rhyme.
Nothing there about making sense.
Posted by: From about That Time at May 28, 2025 12:06 PM (n4GiU)
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Mannix, this is such an important point. You could see Ted Cruz' expression change as he saw in real time that everyone wanted to see Trump at that fair. People didn't care that he was rich - they cared that he was actually relatable. That made all the difference.
Posted by: Darrell Harris
Relatable? He was unapologetically authentic. He was rich, which everyone wants to be, and didn't change his appearance/accent/talking points to cater/pander to the crowd. People appreciate authenticity and can smell politically opportunistic frauds.
Posted by: Darrell Harris
Relatable? He was unapologetically authentic. He was rich, which everyone wants to be, and didn't change his appearance/accent/talking points to cater/pander to the crowd. People appreciate authenticity and can smell politically opportunistic frauds.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at May 28, 2025 12:07 PM (JCZqz)
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It is very common in my upper class blue area for people to claim:
I am taxed too much, we need to move taxes onto the rich, because I can barely pay the mortgage on my multi-million dollar mansion, my two new luxury SUVs/EVs, my nanny, my maid, my cook, and still take two vacations to Europe a year.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 28, 2025 12:01 PM (t0Rmr)
So true! Just last week while we were on a cruise to St. Thomas, I asked Blah Blah "How do we make ends meet?" Blah Blah said the secret was ABM.
Always Be Mooching.
I am taxed too much, we need to move taxes onto the rich, because I can barely pay the mortgage on my multi-million dollar mansion, my two new luxury SUVs/EVs, my nanny, my maid, my cook, and still take two vacations to Europe a year.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 28, 2025 12:01 PM (t0Rmr)
So true! Just last week while we were on a cruise to St. Thomas, I asked Blah Blah "How do we make ends meet?" Blah Blah said the secret was ABM.
Always Be Mooching.
Posted by: Harriet And Blah Blah Nyborg, Lifelong democrats and moochers at May 28, 2025 12:07 PM (WeTZq)
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‘ Do they have lemonade stands you can tax too?
Posted by: WitchDoktor’
You’re like the Inspector Javert of hoisting Moo Moo by his own petard.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 28, 2025 12:04 PM (jbnUc)
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It's a hobby. 🤣
‘ Do they have lemonade stands you can tax too?
Posted by: WitchDoktor’
You’re like the Inspector Javert of hoisting Moo Moo by his own petard.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 28, 2025 12:04 PM (jbnUc)
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It's a hobby. 🤣
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People appreciate authenticity and can smell politically opportunistic frauds.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at May 28, 2025 12:07 PM (JCZqz)
Is this where I can get me a huntin' license?
-John F'ing Kerry
Posted by: Moron Analyst at May 28, 2025 12:07 PM (JCZqz)
Is this where I can get me a huntin' license?
-John F'ing Kerry
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 28, 2025 12:08 PM (N39Ws)
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Latino citizens see the Dems flooding us with peasant illegals used as shock troops and know what is going on. They see the commies and grifters many of them fled being elevated and amplified.
"Latinos" as a term is arguable as each Central and South American country tends to hate the other Central and South American countries. They are far from a cohesive bunch.
"Latinos" as a term is arguable as each Central and South American country tends to hate the other Central and South American countries. They are far from a cohesive bunch.
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at May 28, 2025 12:08 PM (w9Wax)
Posted by: Case at May 28, 2025 12:08 PM (a1g6Z)
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The presidential candidate who can shoot a PRS match competently has my vote.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 28, 2025 12:09 PM (tT6L1)
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Freedom of speech.
Has the Commie left ever heard of it?
Or does that only apply to them?
Posted by: Case at May 28, 2025 12:08 PM (a1g6Z)
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Yes.
Has the Commie left ever heard of it?
Or does that only apply to them?
Posted by: Case at May 28, 2025 12:08 PM (a1g6Z)
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Yes.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at May 28, 2025 12:09 PM (6YdsJ)
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Imagine a 3% mortgage when you have access to say a 4% savings account. If you pay the minimum a month and put your extra into the savings account (baring tax implications) you will come out ahead.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 28, 2025 12:03 PM (t0Rmr)
In that case, though, you’re paying 3% on the full balance up-front but only adding to the savings account a little but at a time.
It does work if you have the cash to pay off the mortgage but just invest it. My mortgage is sub-2% and I make more than that on the cash I’d have to spend to pay off the mortgage. Bank is paying me to live in the house.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 28, 2025 12:03 PM (t0Rmr)
In that case, though, you’re paying 3% on the full balance up-front but only adding to the savings account a little but at a time.
It does work if you have the cash to pay off the mortgage but just invest it. My mortgage is sub-2% and I make more than that on the cash I’d have to spend to pay off the mortgage. Bank is paying me to live in the house.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 28, 2025 12:09 PM (l3YAf)
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248 My definition of rich and wealthy is not needing to work or any salary.
Financially independent.
Posted by: ShainS at May
So living off of interest from investments? Or cash in the bank that is large enough you can pull for all expenses and it is enough to last the rest of your days?
I am not being a smart Alec. I think we all have different opinions on what is rich and what isn’t. Bezos and Musk are rich, but under that threshold, where does rich start?
Financially independent.
Posted by: ShainS at May
So living off of interest from investments? Or cash in the bank that is large enough you can pull for all expenses and it is enough to last the rest of your days?
I am not being a smart Alec. I think we all have different opinions on what is rich and what isn’t. Bezos and Musk are rich, but under that threshold, where does rich start?
Posted by: Piper at May 28, 2025 12:09 PM (aT5K/)
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You need a permit for that lemonade stand.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 28, 2025 12:09 PM (tRs7o)
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I followed the money — and it leads to a shadowy nonprofit called the Annenberg Foundation.
Let’s just say the rabbit hole gets dark — fast. 🤨
Posted by: SMOD at May 28, 2025 11:36 AM (RHGPo)
Isn't that connected with Obama's mentors in Chicago?
Let’s just say the rabbit hole gets dark — fast. 🤨
Posted by: SMOD at May 28, 2025 11:36 AM (RHGPo)
Isn't that connected with Obama's mentors in Chicago?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 28, 2025 12:10 PM (AGnKw)
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There is real psychic income and benefit to the no stress satisfaction of outright owning your house with no mortgage. I highly recommend…. It’s worth the “loss” of 1-2% opportunity cost in alternate investments. Peace of mind is priceless
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 28, 2025 12:10 PM (5MZNC)
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I can't believe voters don't buy our YOU'RE WORTHLESS AND WEAK messaging.
Posted by: That Sneaky Shit Neidermeyer at May 28, 2025 12:10 PM (wBaIH)
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307 Imagine a 3% mortgage when you have access to say a 4% savings account. If you pay the minimum a month and put your extra into the savings account (baring tax implications) you will come out ahead.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 28, 2025 12:03 PM (t0Rmr)
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The savings account needs to earn 4% after tax for this to work.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 28, 2025 12:03 PM (t0Rmr)
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The savings account needs to earn 4% after tax for this to work.
Posted by: Oglebay at May 28, 2025 12:11 PM (2ap+5)
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I define rich as never worrying about money.
Posted by: toby928 at May 28, 2025 12:13 PM (jc0TO)
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If you're paying taxes on your home, and you'll lose it if you do not, do you ever really own your home?
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 28, 2025 12:13 PM (wBaIH)
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I am not being a smart Alec. I think we all have different opinions on what is rich and what isn’t. Bezos and Musk are rich, but under that threshold, where does rich start?
Posted by: Piper at May 28, 2025 12:09 PM (aT5K/
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I always put my threshold as "do I have to worry about money?" I don't believe there's an objective threshold.
In my youth my mother had to scrape together money to buy me shoes that had to last for two years. Do I have to do that now? Do I have to struggle to live the way I want to? No. As far as I'm concerned, I'm well off.
Posted by: Piper at May 28, 2025 12:09 PM (aT5K/
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I always put my threshold as "do I have to worry about money?" I don't believe there's an objective threshold.
In my youth my mother had to scrape together money to buy me shoes that had to last for two years. Do I have to do that now? Do I have to struggle to live the way I want to? No. As far as I'm concerned, I'm well off.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 28, 2025 12:13 PM (23/y9)
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Is this where I can get me a huntin' license?
-John F'ing Kerry
My God - I remember watching that - live, I think. Flannel shirt, shotgun over his shoulder hanging on by the barrel.
I'd had enough W by then. I remember looking at my wife and saying "we're down to picking shitty or shittier".
I often wonder - what kind of piece of shit does one have to be to associate with such pieces of shit and not call a spade a spade ?
-John F'ing Kerry
My God - I remember watching that - live, I think. Flannel shirt, shotgun over his shoulder hanging on by the barrel.
I'd had enough W by then. I remember looking at my wife and saying "we're down to picking shitty or shittier".
I often wonder - what kind of piece of shit does one have to be to associate with such pieces of shit and not call a spade a spade ?
Posted by: Mike Armstrong at May 28, 2025 12:13 PM (jQTUu)
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302 People appreciate authenticity and can smell politically opportunistic frauds.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at May 28, 2025 12:07 PM (JCZqz)
Is this where I can get me a huntin' license?
-John F'ing Kerry
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed
I love this shotgun. Shoot it all the time! Now, how do I load it and chamber a round again....?
Posted by: Moron Analyst at May 28, 2025 12:07 PM (JCZqz)
Is this where I can get me a huntin' license?
-John F'ing Kerry
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed
I love this shotgun. Shoot it all the time! Now, how do I load it and chamber a round again....?
Posted by: Tim Walz at May 28, 2025 12:14 PM (hXg2A)
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The savings account needs to earn 4% after tax for this to work.
Yes that is why I referenced taxes - but it gets complex quickly. Are you using the mortgage deduction? What tax rate does that 4% put you in with your fed taxes? How about state taxes?
And on and on...
Obviously this get simpler if you find a stock say giving you 10%/year but...then there is a risk as well with that investment...
Yes that is why I referenced taxes - but it gets complex quickly. Are you using the mortgage deduction? What tax rate does that 4% put you in with your fed taxes? How about state taxes?
And on and on...
Obviously this get simpler if you find a stock say giving you 10%/year but...then there is a risk as well with that investment...
Posted by: 18-1 at May 28, 2025 12:14 PM (t0Rmr)
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If you're paying taxes on your home, and you'll lose it if you do not, do you ever really own your home?
No.
"You'll own nothing..."
No.
"You'll own nothing..."
Posted by: 18-1 at May 28, 2025 12:14 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Available In Super Size! at May 28, 2025 12:15 PM (L/fGl)
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I admit that I would never get wealthy because of two things.
I was never willing to incur debt.
Making money has never been my focus and it requires focus. You can't serve two masters.
I was never willing to incur debt.
Making money has never been my focus and it requires focus. You can't serve two masters.
Posted by: polynikes at May 28, 2025 12:16 PM (VofaG)
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Trump was giving rides to fairgoers in his helicopter.
Mrs. Clinton tried to shame him about Taxes in the debate. She smugly believed this would work. Trump was honest - “I don’t pay any more in taxes than I am legally required. Nobody else does either”.
People respond to this. He is authentic. The Clintons of course were many, many different things, “genuine” and “authentic” were not among them. Given a choice, the people will reject them.
The problem of course, they don’t intend to give you a choice. Now you know why they hate Trump. He represents this rejection.
Mrs. Clinton tried to shame him about Taxes in the debate. She smugly believed this would work. Trump was honest - “I don’t pay any more in taxes than I am legally required. Nobody else does either”.
People respond to this. He is authentic. The Clintons of course were many, many different things, “genuine” and “authentic” were not among them. Given a choice, the people will reject them.
The problem of course, they don’t intend to give you a choice. Now you know why they hate Trump. He represents this rejection.
Posted by: Common Tater at May 28, 2025 12:17 PM (n+FG3)
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Having FU money is true wealth. I.e. you can walk away from any job, client, boss,and say FU without a second thought.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 28, 2025 12:17 PM (wBaIH)
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314 I define rich as never worrying about money.
Posted by: toby928 at May 28, 2025 12:13 PM (jc0TO)
One could be delusional and never worry about money.
Posted by: toby928 at May 28, 2025 12:13 PM (jc0TO)
One could be delusional and never worry about money.
Posted by: Never needing to worry about money perhaps? at May 28, 2025 12:17 PM (TbWk/)
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Noods up.
Posted by: From about That Time at May 28, 2025 12:17 PM (n4GiU)
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In my youth my mother had to scrape together money to buy me shoes that had to last for two years. Do I have to do that now? Do I have to struggle to live the way I want to? No. As far as I'm concerned, I'm well off.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 28, 2025 12:13 PM
Perspective definitely shapes it, no doubt.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 28, 2025 12:13 PM
Perspective definitely shapes it, no doubt.
Posted by: Piper at May 28, 2025 12:17 PM (aT5K/)
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NOOD Tapper!
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 28, 2025 12:17 PM (l3YAf)
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There is real psychic income and benefit to the no stress satisfaction of outright owning your house with no mortgage. I highly recommend…. It’s worth the “loss” of 1-2% opportunity cost in alternate investments. Peace of mind is priceless
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 28, 2025 12:10 PM (5MZNC)
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Agreed. Paying off your mortgage early? Almost Priceless ...
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 28, 2025 12:10 PM (5MZNC)
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Agreed. Paying off your mortgage early? Almost Priceless ...
Posted by: ShainS at May 28, 2025 12:18 PM (HQz8q)
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Newd...
Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at May 28, 2025 12:19 PM (tykPk)
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Having FU money is true wealth. I.e. you can walk away from any job, client, boss,and say FU without a second thought.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 28, 2025 12:17 PM (wBaIH)
One of my vices was I had that attitude without the money. Of course it helps if you don't have a family you're responsible for. Even with that I had a limit.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 28, 2025 12:17 PM (wBaIH)
One of my vices was I had that attitude without the money. Of course it helps if you don't have a family you're responsible for. Even with that I had a limit.
Posted by: polynikes at May 28, 2025 12:20 PM (VofaG)
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Are the lemons organic? Were they Ethically-Sourced? Non-GMO??? Gluten-free??? I have allergies!!!
Posted by: Karen the Lemonade Customer at May 28, 2025 12:20 PM (PiwSw)
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Conservative pundits and the like are always trying to point out what the Democrats did wrong in order to lose votes. Why do they feel need the need to coach them in how rectify the issue? If the Lefties and Dos are LOSING -- just LET THEM LOSE!
Now, we are safe over here on Ace of Spades because the lefties are too scared to red this blog. We can provide them the exact path to victory in elections and they will never see it.
Now, we are safe over here on Ace of Spades because the lefties are too scared to red this blog. We can provide them the exact path to victory in elections and they will never see it.
Posted by: Lee Also at May 28, 2025 01:01 PM (IrqeV)
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"Speaking with American Men"
American Men have nothing in common with anti-American Marxists. There is no conversation to be had here.
American Men have nothing in common with anti-American Marxists. There is no conversation to be had here.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at May 28, 2025 01:13 PM (O7YUW)
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