“Democracy” Means Regulations Written by Bureaucrats Cannot Be Overturned by Congress and the President

[KT is still recovering from surgery. We look forward to her return soon. – Buck]

You may have heard that I am not a fan of electric vehicles being jammed down our throats by the enemies of liberty, so this headline obviously excites me: “Senate sends measure axing California EV mandate to Trump’s desk — sidestepping parliamentarian.”

But it also infuriates me, because we are seeing the “Save our democracy” movement evolve into a bizzarro world where regulations written by bureaucrats, and which effectively serve as federal law, are immune from being overturned by Congress, the law-making body under the Constitution.

The reason it is so important to overturn this regulation is that it has effectively allowed California to determine vehicle standards for the whole country.

The Senate voted Thursday to axe California’s phaseout of new gas-powered cars, making a controversial move to sidestep the parliamentarian in the process. The vote was 51-44, and the measure now heads to President Trump’s desk; he is expected to sign it.

Now with both houses of Congress voting to overturn the regulation, and President Trump vowing to sign it, in a normal world the regulation would be dead. We no longer live in a normal world.

Both the House and Senate have voted to axe federal approval of California’s standard using the Congressional Review Act, which allows Congress to strike down recently approved regulations with a simple majority. But the Senate parliamentarian and Congress’s Government Accountability Office, have found that the Biden administration EPA’s decision is not subject to the act because it is a waiver, not a regulation.

Democrats are arguing that there is some nuance of this regulation that forever prohibits Congress and the President from rolling it back. California Governor Gavin Newsom and Senator Adam Schiff, among others, have vowed to go find a District Judge somewhere to overrule Congress and the President, and thereby rule that regulations created by communist bureaucrats are forever immune from being terminated by actual lawmakers.

Whatever form of government we have, it is not a “democracy” if bureaucrats are writing laws and judges prohibit lawmakers from blocking those regulations.

[buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 10:00 AM

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Posted by: Nordisk Tidende at May 24, 2025 09:59 AM (G5+As)

2 Prayers for KT! Thanks for filling in, Buck. And best wishes for a safe and happy, if solemn, Memorial Day holiday to all the morons this morning.

Posted by: tankascribe at May 24, 2025 10:06 AM (NtoJk)

3 Progressives have always believed in rule by experts (provided the experts are also progressives.)

Posted by: Kratwurst at May 24, 2025 10:09 AM (fcDpY)

4 The judicial coup underway needs to be addressed for what it is. The administration and a fair chunk of the public still haven't acknowledged it as such. When they finally do, if ever, look out.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 24, 2025 10:09 AM (Q4IgG)

5 I would have thought by now that at least one automaker would have realized that a sticker saying "Not Legal In The State Of California" would be marketing gold for most of the other 56 states.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 24, 2025 10:18 AM (yvnLa)

6 The senate parliamentarian is not a constitutionally created office, right? It's basically a convenience dreamed up by congress one day long ago?

Maybe i'm thinking of something else.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 24, 2025 10:20 AM (yvnLa)

7 Suck it, Gavin.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 24, 2025 10:21 AM (RIvkX)

8 6 The senate parliamentarian is not a constitutionally created office, right? It's basically a convenience dreamed up by congress one day long ago?

Maybe i'm thinking of something else.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 24, 2025 10:20 AM (yvnLa
No, you’re thinking about the congressional cat. That’s just cerrmonial.

Posted by: Eromero at May 24, 2025 10:23 AM (sRjRB)

9 Either way, it is hilarious that i'm supposed to be fine with wholesale usurpation of all three branches of government by dug-in parasites appointed by presidents long gone, but oh my stars someone sidestepped the parliamentarian? Not the parliamentarian! Game over, man! Game over!

Get real.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 24, 2025 10:23 AM (yvnLa)

10 Willowed because relevant:

204 I love this from Harvard:
https://tinyurl.com/3k7s86ph

Harvard administrators have challenged the government’s actions in court—arguing that the Trump administration is restricting academic freedom and First Amendment rights.

“The tradeoff put to Harvard and other universities is clear: Allow the Government to micromanage your academic institution or jeopardize the institution’s ability to pursue medical breakthroughs, scientific discoveries, and innovative solutions,” the university’s legal representatives wrote in April, according to The Harvard Crimson.

Since then, federal agencies have continued to announce that they are pausing federal funds to the university.

Translation: Sure, we hate the Joos and actively attack them, but we do some good things too.

And Mussolini made the trains run on time.

Just FYI, I first tried is.gd to shorten the url, and they said GP is "on their blacklist". What a nice way to say "we're censoring you".

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2025 10:24 AM (s8j++)

11 I heard there was a niid

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at May 24, 2025 10:24 AM (U81Si)

12 Willowed:

I wouldn't accuse you of bigotry but I think you might be in danger of having a collectivist mindset. IE This set of people over here are Good, as a group.
That set of people over there? Well, they're Bad, as a group.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 24, 2025 10:21 AM (3wi/L)
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Demography is not a collectivist mindset. Again, you are trying to demonize analyzing generational differences just as liberals say you can't note differences between ethnic and sexual demographics. "Don't notice the higher propensity for crime, that's racist!"

And of course the personal insults are always fun.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2025 10:25 AM (ZOv7s)

13 It’s amazing how hard it is to undo the stupidity of the Dems.

Posted by: Iris at May 24, 2025 10:25 AM (NoW5q)

14 100% Buck…. The situation is ridiculous. Those who howl loudest about “democracy” are the same people happy when a tyrant in a robe overrules the will of the voters. Such a set of circumstances cannot long persist.

George Will fell out of my favor about 20 years but I remember he used to say something wise (I paraphrase): our governmental system, even with its checks and balances, is designed to give the people what they want over time… especially those things that are overwhelmingly popular (in our present times, think border security and deportations)

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 24, 2025 10:25 AM (ANuwa)

15 NIID! NIID!

Posted by: The Knights Who Say "Niid" at May 24, 2025 10:26 AM (tK60h)

16 George Will fell out of my favor about 20 years but I remember he used to say something wise (I paraphrase): our governmental system, even with its checks and balances, is designed to give the people what they want over time… especially those things that are overwhelmingly popular (in our present times, think border security and deportations)

It's a pity what happened to him. He seems now to just automatically adopt whatever position will be contrary to what most people want.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2025 10:27 AM (s8j++)

17 So a question of what 'is' is?

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2025 10:27 AM (ypFCm)

18 Democrats are arguing that there is some nuance of this regulation that forever prohibits Congress and the President from rolling it back.

This is madness. Absolutely nothing in our government is "forever" and prohibited from being reversed.

How is anyone arguing this?

There are things that are more difficult to reverse or remove than others. Some requiring a majority vote, some requiring a two-thirds vote, some requiring a simple Executive Order, some requiring a new law, some requiring a SCOTUS decision, etc.

But everything, as far as I know, can be reversed. There is absolutely nothing that is "forever".

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 24, 2025 10:27 AM (P5BPp)

19 It's a pity what happened to him. He seems now to just automatically adopt whatever position will be contrary to what most people want.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2025 10:27 AM (s8j++)

I know it's unfair, but I can only ever think of him as history's foremost antidenimite.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 24, 2025 10:28 AM (yvnLa)

20 Video on x (no link coz x is fragile rn

@bennyjohnson

Vice President JD Vance just stood and shook every Naval Academy graduate's hand.

Incredible.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at May 24, 2025 10:30 AM (Wx316)

21 I would have thought by now that at least one automaker would have realized that a sticker saying "Not Legal In The State Of California" would be marketing gold for most of the other 56 states.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 24, 2025 10:18 AM (yvnLa)
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Automaker did build cars specifically for CA for decades. It was mostly emissions bullshit. The rest of the country got the ‘normal’ cars. But that became very expensive. Plus, the federal regs and the regs of the other states got closer to CA’s. So the makers started building all cars to CA standards. Another tax on non-CA buyers,

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at May 24, 2025 10:30 AM (vnUI1)

22 Simple solution ... end the EPA.

Posted by: Marooned at May 24, 2025 10:31 AM (kt8QE)

23 I don't see why this should be adversarial. I want Boomers to talk about their experiences in the culture, the changes they saw between how their parents did thing and how they did them.

Are you reconsidering some of your assumptions? I certainly am. I look back on voting for Dubya and Romney with horror and shame (don't get me started on McCain) and my only comfort is that the alternative was so much worse.

But maybe not, maybe we had to go this path to wake up to the false dream that just a few more points of GDP and cannibalized companies would have brought us to the promised land.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2025 10:31 AM (ZOv7s)

24 > This is madness. Absolutely nothing in our government is "forever" and prohibited from being reversed.

How is anyone arguing this?
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Democrats have a different interpretation. Theirs is the only one that matters. They are fully prepared to enforce that interpretation with violence. And are doing so now. And will increase the violence until they get their way.

Or someone stops them.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 24, 2025 10:31 AM (Q4IgG)

25 22 Simple solution ... end the EPA.
Posted by: Marooned at May 24, 2025 10:31 AM (kt8QE)

Need a good look at the NTSB, too. Or at least one chunk of it.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 24, 2025 10:31 AM (yvnLa)

26 Trump is back to being busy with EOs

Restoring Gold Standard Science
Reinvigorating the Nuclear Industrial Base
Reforming Nuclear Reactor Testing at the Department of Energy
Ordering the Reform of the Nuclear Regulatory Commission
Deploying Advanced Nuclear Reactor Technologies for National Security

Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2025 10:32 AM (D7oie)

27 It's a pity what happened to him. He seems now to just automatically adopt whatever position will be contrary to what most people want.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2025 10:27 AM (s8j++)
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Atheists by definition lack a firm moral compass.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2025 10:32 AM (ZOv7s)

28 I do love a well-crafted policy statement

"Recent events in Europe, such as the nationwide blackouts in Spain and Portugal, underscore the importance of my Administration’s focus on dispatchable power generation –including nuclear power — over intermittent power. Beginning today, my Administration will reform the NRC, including its structure, personnel, regulations, and basic operations. In so doing, we will produce lasting American dominance in the global nuclear energy market, create tens of thousands of high-paying jobs, and generate American-led prosperity and resilience."

Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2025 10:33 AM (D7oie)

29 26 Trump is back to being busy with EOs

Restoring Gold Standard Science
Reinvigorating the Nuclear Industrial Base
Reforming Nuclear Reactor Testing at the Department of Energy
Ordering the Reform of the Nuclear Regulatory Commission
Deploying Advanced Nuclear Reactor Technologies for National Security
Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2025 10:32 AM (D7oie)

Hippies: "No nukes!"

Trump: "F.U. All The Nukes."

Love it.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 24, 2025 10:33 AM (yvnLa)

30 I'm having the time of my life.

I've been a government and politics, not the same thing, geek all my life. I've watched politics strangle the government since I was knee high to grasshopper with almost no hope it will ever get sorted.

You see the glass half empty. I see a country of, finally, righteously pissed off people who want their country back. The EV mandate was recently killed in Virginia and even the pseudo state of Vermont. We'll get to Clownafornia in due time.

In the meantime I'm just enjoying watching my countrymen say enough is enough. We're slow to anger but when Americans get angry the world moves. Including Governor Hair Gel.

Thank you, Donald.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 24, 2025 10:34 AM (viF8m)

31 Whatever form of government we have, it is not a “democracy” if bureaucrats are writing laws and judges prohibit lawmakers from blocking those regulations.

It is ultimately a democracy but the voting population is 9.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2025 10:34 AM (/y8xj)

32 Clyde "How is anyone arguing this?"

I think we will find some Commissar Judge to tell us what that argument is

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2025 10:34 AM (ypFCm)

33 Democrats have a different interpretation. Theirs is the only one that matters. They are fully prepared to enforce that interpretation with violence. And are doing so now. And will increase the violence until they get their way.

Or someone stops them.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 24, 2025 10:31 AM (Q4IgG)
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They are full-on Marxists now.

The hard-hat, Scoop Jackson Democrats are long gone.

The tipping point was embracing Clinton despite his adultery and later during the Lewinsky affair. I don't think that a lot of those conservative Dems actually forgave him, I think they were demographically overwhelmed.

And now they've either fled or died.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2025 10:35 AM (ZOv7s)

34 I think we will find some Commissar Judge to tell us what that argument is
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2025 10:34 AM (ypFCm)

"You have to lose in order to find out what's in our argument."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 24, 2025 10:35 AM (yvnLa)

35 There are things that are more difficult to reverse or remove than others. Some requiring a majority vote, some requiring a two-thirds vote, some requiring a simple Executive Order, some requiring a new law, some requiring a SCOTUS decision, etc.

But everything, as far as I know, can be reversed. There is absolutely nothing that is "forever".
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 24, 2025 10:27 AM (P5BPp)

I always role my eyes when in hearings of the judiciary committee, nominees fall all over themselves to pledge fealty to stare decisis…. Have they forgotten Dred Scott?? Was that a sacrosanct decision?? They’re so stupid… it’s obvious courts make idiotic decisions all the time. Those need to be overturned. Sheesh

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 24, 2025 10:35 AM (i5Vkf)

36 Whyndo we still have the same Senate parliamentarian since 2012? Appointed by Harry Reid (piss be upon him).
Have not the Republicans been in the majority at least once since then?

Posted by: Reforger at May 24, 2025 10:36 AM (xcIvR)

37 Clyde "How is anyone arguing this?"

I think we will find some Commissar Judge to tell us what that argument is

It's the Brezhnev rule. What's mine is mine, what's yours is negotiable.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2025 10:36 AM (s8j++)

38 In the meantime I'm just enjoying watching my countrymen say enough is enough. We're slow to anger but when Americans get angry the world moves. Including Governor Hair Gel.

Thank you, Donald.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 24, 2025 10:34 AM (viF8m)
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Yes, it is pretty fun of you just sit back and take in the big picture rather than writing hands over every tiny temporary setback.

Not even four months into it!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2025 10:36 AM (ZOv7s)

39 Waivers cannot be removed?

Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2025 10:37 AM (D7oie)

40 Things would be entirely different if we we had an electric grid of nuclear power plants. A dozen oil refineries would be a real boost, also.

Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at May 24, 2025 10:37 AM (VJc7E)

41 Waivers cannot be removed?
Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2025 10:37 AM (D7oie)
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Only by Democrats.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2025 10:38 AM (ZOv7s)

42 I would have thought by now that at least one automaker would have realized that a sticker saying "Not Legal In The State Of California" would be marketing gold for most of the other 56 states.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 24, 2025 10:18 AM (yvnLa)

Just a sticker that says, "Not legal for sale in California, in violation of the Interstate Commerce Act"

Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2025 10:38 AM (D7oie)

43 *sheepishly moves propane torch away from scalp*

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2025 10:38 AM (s8j++)

44 @bennyjohnson

Vice President JD Vance just stood and shook every Naval Academy graduate's hand.

Incredible.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at May 24, 2025 10:30 AM

X Video: https://bit.ly/4mwokrM

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 24, 2025 10:39 AM (P5BPp)

45 It's a pity what happened to him. He seems now to just automatically adopt whatever position will be contrary to what most people want.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2025 10:27 AM (s8j++)
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Atheists by definition lack a firm moral compass.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2025 10:32 AM (ZOv7s)

I think you’ve hit the nail on the head. Will always thought he was one of the smart ones… he wanted a bunch of eggheaded experts running things. In retrospect I’m amazed he was such a Reagan fan

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 24, 2025 10:39 AM (i5Vkf)

46 It is so funny that Dems are still arguing about eggs while gas is falling, inflation is crumbling (my grocery store has "price drops" everywhere) and so they're reduced to arguing that murderers can stay here forever.

Wait till a year from now, when they will be burning American flags in the runup to July 4.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2025 10:39 AM (ZOv7s)

47 I heard there was a niid
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at May 24, 2025 10:24 AM (U81Si)
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Harrumph!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 24, 2025 10:40 AM (RIvkX)

48 Mussolini never made the trains run on time, any relationship between the railroad schedule and actuality was lodged in Il Duce's self esteem.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2025 10:41 AM (D7oie)

49 12
'And of course the personal insults are always fun.'

I didn't insult you. I try not to insult people but when I do it isn't subtle. You're in an intellectual argument. Don't be so prickly.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 24, 2025 10:41 AM (3wi/L)

50 Just a sticker that says, "Not legal for sale in California, in violation of the Interstate Commerce Act"
Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2025 10:38 AM (D7oie)
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"Banned in Boston" for a new generation.

Kind of like Pope Francis saying you can't have Traditional Latin Mass. And all the young people are like: "Wait, what? What is this forbidden Mass! I must have it!"

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2025 10:41 AM (ZOv7s)

51 >>I don't see why this should be adversarial. I want Boomers to talk about their experiences in the culture, the changes they saw between how their parents did thing and how they did them.

We've heard enough about Boomers. Not enough about I'd like to hear more about how other generations are doing.

The Silents gave us the Boomers. That would be Reagan who gave us this fucked up intel and NGO run country. What the fuck has Gen X, Z, Sexually Amorphous done to fix anything?

Posted by: JackStraw at May 24, 2025 10:41 AM (viF8m)

52
I didn't insult you. I try not to insult people but when I do it isn't subtle. You're in an intellectual argument. Don't be so prickly.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 24, 2025 10:41 AM (3wi/L)
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I wasn't referring to you, sorry about the confusion. Someone else was throwing darts.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2025 10:42 AM (ZOv7s)

53 'And of course the personal insults are always fun.'

I didn't insult you. I try not to insult people but when I do it isn't subtle. You're in an intellectual argument. Don't be so prickly.

Both of you need to let it go. There is a longstanding rule which I just made up that spats can't be continued from one thread to the next without a vote of all the commenters present.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2025 10:43 AM (s8j++)

54 I don’t know what “niid” means….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 24, 2025 10:43 AM (i5Vkf)

55 Hippies: "No nukes!"

Trump: "F.U. All The Nukes."

Love it.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 24, 2025 10:33 AM (yvnLa)

In Germany in the 80's and 90's the no nukes Hippies were funded by the Soviets. God knows who is funding the Greens there today. I suspect the German Government, but the USAID might have been involved.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2025 10:44 AM (D7oie)

56 Ordinarily my fingers are nimble and quick

It's still early on the West coast

I've had a long week

My dog peed on it

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 24, 2025 10:44 AM (RIvkX)

57 The Silents gave us the Boomers. That would be Reagan who gave us this fucked up intel and NGO run country. What the fuck has Gen X, Z, Sexually Amorphous done to fix anything?

Posted by: JackStraw at May 24, 2025 10:41 AM (viF8m)
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Well, they brought us Trump, and Z is shifting heavily into conservatism.

As for what they have done, they've been outnumbered and if you haven't noticed, our Congress skews heavily into the geriatric, so Gen X is only (belatedly) reaching the commanding heights of power.

This is why analysis of the Boomers is so essential so that we can see what worked and what didn't. I think it is interesting that a lot of Gen X is drawing inspiration from the Silent Generation (see the TLM, for example).

My parish has had a huge demographic turnover. Boomers are disappearing bigly, and so are their donations. The slack is being taken up by younger people, so we have a paradox of rising Mass attendance, more vocations, but less money.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2025 10:45 AM (ZOv7s)

58 I don’t know what “niid” means….
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 24, 2025 10:43 AM (i5Vkf)

Who are you to say "niid" to this poor woman!

Posted by: A Shrubber at May 24, 2025 10:45 AM (D7oie)

59 O/T Mrs. F. who always seems to know more about this than she should says the end-game has begun in Gaza, and that the Iran talks have failed so Trump has given the Israelis the green light.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 24, 2025 10:46 AM (RIvkX)

60 54 I don’t know what “niid” means….
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 24, 2025 10:43 AM (i5Vkf)

It refers to the Knights who say Niid, of course. (The d is silent)

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 24, 2025 10:46 AM (buOX2)

61 53 - Archimedes: If you just made it up, the rule cannot be longstanding :-)

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 24, 2025 10:46 AM (i5Vkf)

62 My parish has had a huge demographic turnover. Boomers are disappearing bigly, and so are their donations. The slack is being taken up by younger people, so we have a paradox of rising Mass attendance, more vocations, but less money.

We seem to be out of phase. My church is mostly boomers, with relatively few younger ones. It's like we're waiting for the youth cavalry to arrive.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2025 10:47 AM (s8j++)

63 >>I wasn't referring to you, sorry about the confusion. Someone else was throwing darts.

Of course you were.

Scogg is more direct but every single time some comes in here and says Boomer fucked up the world you are taking a shot at a good percentage of this blog, many of us who were here long before you got here. It gets old. Like Boomers.

Kind of tiresome.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 24, 2025 10:47 AM (viF8m)

64 18
'This is madness. Absolutely nothing in our government is "forever" and prohibited from being reversed.

How is anyone arguing this?'

How? Because any lie will do for the 'Rats. They have no consistency or good faith.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 24, 2025 10:47 AM (3wi/L)

65 Archimedes: If you just made it up, the rule cannot be longstanding :-)

Yes, that was a joke to defuse tensions.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2025 10:48 AM (s8j++)

66 George Will is/was a Cubs fan. That's enough to trigger cranial pathologies. Not to mention the evil menace of Chicago-style "pizza".

Posted by: Dungaree Doll at May 24, 2025 10:48 AM (G5+As)

67 Gen X is your last conservative generation.
My brothers span X and Y and the 2 Y's are flaming retarded libs.
I blame retiring Silent gen teachers as they were all replaced with commies. My teachers were mostly WW2 vets and such. My brothers teachers were all semi cleaned up tarded hippies.

Posted by: Reforger at May 24, 2025 10:49 AM (xcIvR)

68 We seem to be out of phase. My church is mostly boomers, with relatively few younger ones. It's like we're waiting for the youth cavalry to arrive.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2025 10:47 AM (s8j++)
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That was us about 10 years ago.

The campus location has seen Mass attendance rise during the last school year by 15%. I think it was up 10% the year before that, but the trend is clearly positive.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2025 10:49 AM (ZOv7s)

69 Well stated BT. God willing, we prevail in this war. If we don't, some of us will continue with the Irish version of democracy.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at May 24, 2025 10:49 AM (Uzn0I)

70 My parish has had a huge demographic turnover. Boomers are disappearing bigly, and so are their donations. The slack is being taken up by younger people, so we have a paradox of rising Mass attendance, more vocations, but less money.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2025 10:45 AM (ZOv7s)

It’s a very great thing for the Catholic Churches to be able to do that. Almost all of the mainline Protestant churches are seeing drops in the Boomer membership (mortality, natch) but no counterbalancing increase from younger generations.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 24, 2025 10:49 AM (buOX2)

71 The tipping point was embracing Clinton despite his adultery and later during the Lewinsky affair. I don't think that a lot of those conservative Dems actually forgave him, I think they were demographically overwhelmed.

And now they've either fled or died.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2025 10:35 AM (ZOv7s)

Clinton was controllable, he had so much sexual assault and corruption in his closet that he could be manipulated by both party structures. Hillz probably got do do anything the major parties didn't care about, but on the whole he was embraced because he was controllable and would do exactly what he was told to do.

I suspect Biden was the most recent iteration of this, but Biden was a broken tool

Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2025 10:50 AM (D7oie)

72 Not to mention the evil menace of Chicago-style "pizza".
Posted by: Dungaree Doll at May 24, 2025 10:48 AM (G5+As)
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Or their diabolical crimes against the hot dog.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 24, 2025 10:51 AM (RIvkX)

73 Progressivism is the belief that society would be better ordered if it was run by an intellectual elite.

A Progressive is someone who imagines themselves a part of this elite.

Posted by: toby928 at May 24, 2025 10:51 AM (jc0TO)

74 George Will is/was a Cubs fan. That's enough to trigger cranial pathologies. Not to mention the evil menace of Chicago-style "pizza".
Posted by: Dungaree Doll at May 24, 2025 10:48 AM (G5+As)

Wasn’t the curse of the Billy goat finally broken in 2016? I’m a Cub fan and when they won the WS that year I was content if they never won again!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 24, 2025 10:51 AM (i5Vkf)

75 53
'There is a longstanding rule which I just made up that spats can't be continued from one thread'

Are you the AOS Parliamentarian?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 24, 2025 10:51 AM (3wi/L)

76 The Silents gave us the Boomers. That would be Reagan who gave us this fucked up intel and NGO run country. What the fuck has Gen X, Z, Sexually Amorphous done to fix anything?
Posted by: JackStraw at May 24, 2025 10:41 AM (viF8m)

I think a fair number of them are waking up to the realization that the world is not "doomed and they are all screwed" but is instead "manipulated to screw them over on purpose"

What comes of that is still the question.

Posted by: A Shrubber at May 24, 2025 10:52 AM (D7oie)

77 Scogg is more direct but every single time some comes in here and says Boomer fucked up the world you are taking a shot at a good percentage of this blog, many of us who were here long before you got here. It gets old. Like Boomers.

Kind of tiresome.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 24, 2025 10:47 AM (viF8m)
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Thanks for the mind-reading, but I was referencing the guy in the other thread who called me unChristian.

I think I've made my point, and it's unfortunate that other folks want to just blindly slag Boomers when things are a lot more complex than that.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2025 10:52 AM (ZOv7s)

78 Also something I have witnessed for the last 40 years, and something noticeable in both the Episcopal and Presbyterian churches today - having too much money is a great curse for a church, perhaps the greatest.

When your organization is rich, you quit trying. When you quit trying, you die.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 24, 2025 10:52 AM (buOX2)

79 >>The reason it is so important to overturn this regulation is that it has effectively allowed California to determine vehicle standards for the whole country.

And it was a line item on the WEF's 2035 goals - so it's WEF globalists - foreigners - using California to determine vehicle standards for the whole country.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 24, 2025 10:53 AM (F/B4x)

80 >> Gen X is your last conservative generation

Nonsense. History didn't start in the 1950s and it sure as hell didn't start with Gen X.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 24, 2025 10:53 AM (viF8m)

81 Are you the AOS Parliamentarian?
Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 24, 2025 10:51 AM (3wi/L)

It keeps the place from being a grudge match and lets things cool down.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2025 10:53 AM (D7oie)

82 Progressivism is the belief that society would be better ordered if it was run by an intellectual elite.

A Progressive is someone who imagines themselves a part of this elite.

Heh, that's pretty good.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2025 10:53 AM (s8j++)

83 David Hogg illuminates the way forward.

Collin Rugg@CollinRugg
NEW: DNC vice chair David Hogg says Democrat Rep. Jasmine Crockett is the perfect person to lead the Democratic Party.
I could not agree more.
"Jasmine Crockett. I love her. She is amazing."
"What we should be asking ourselves is, 'What are we really fighting for?' Because we know it matters."
"And I think Jasmine is frankly the type of leader that we're really looking to support..."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Available In Super Size! at May 24, 2025 10:53 AM (L/fGl)

84
There's going to be some point in this extravaganza of "blowout car sales" store promos and the rest where you back up and have a quiet moment to commemorate the true purpose of this date.

The debt we owe these patriots can not be repaid, but honored in perpetuity. I mean to do just that until I can no longer do so.

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at May 24, 2025 10:54 AM (hKoQL)

85
Maybe the waiver could be negated by another waiver.

I understand this might cause a rip in the space-time continuum. But you know, everyone just assumes that would be a bad thing. How do they know that?

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 24, 2025 10:54 AM (QwK6F)

86 ‘Boomers’ and ‘Gen X’ have the coolest names for their generations. The rest are fake and gay.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at May 24, 2025 10:54 AM (vnUI1)

87
Both of you need to let it go. There is a longstanding rule which I just made up that spats can't be continued from one thread to the next without a vote of all the commenters present.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2025 10:43 AM (s8j++)

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*checks dog-eared copy of Ewok's Rules of Order*

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 24, 2025 10:55 AM (dDmld)

88 Completely off topic before 100 but I just gotta say that one of the joys of being a grandparent is signing the youngest granddaughter up for a week of golf camp and not sweating the payment or the logistics.

You may resume normal programming.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 24, 2025 10:55 AM (6kGoa)

89 David Hogg illuminates the way forward.

Collin Rugg@CollinRugg
NEW: DNC vice chair David Hogg says Democrat Rep. Jasmine Crockett is the perfect person to lead the Democratic Party.
I could not agree more.
"Jasmine Crockett. I love her. She is amazing."
"What we should be asking ourselves is, 'What are we really fighting for?' Because we know it matters."
"And I think Jasmine is frankly the type of leader that we're really looking to support..."

Translation: Please, please PLEASE don't kick me out of the party!

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2025 10:55 AM (s8j++)

90 California has been doing this for at least 40 years in various areas-- e.g. tuna regs. CA says canned tuna must be "this" and excludes tuna canned in other states. CA used to be such an outsized market compared to other states, this effectively "ruled" the other states. NO MORE and time to put a stop to it.

Posted by: susan Harms at May 24, 2025 10:55 AM (Kkd7F)

91 Clinton was controllable, he had so much sexual assault and corruption in his closet that he could be manipulated by both party structures. Hillz probably got do do anything the major parties didn't care about, but on the whole he was embraced because he was controllable and would do exactly what he was told to do.

I suspect Biden was the most recent iteration of this, but Biden was a broken tool
Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2025 10:50 AM (D7oie)
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It's interesting that Clinton never won the popular vote, so perhaps the Boomer Hegemony wasn't really in place, though culturally it was becoming preponderant.

Not that this was a bad thing! I love 80s TV and movies, packed with Boomers! Magnum p.i. rules!

The 1990s were pretty fun, and think men of a certain age will always be grateful for the declaration that oral sex isn't really sex.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2025 10:56 AM (ZOv7s)

92 >>NEW: DNC vice chair David Hogg says Democrat Rep. Jasmine Crockett is the perfect person to lead the Democratic Party.

A sassy black woman.
Of course!

It's a shame he lost his job at the DNC, he could have done so much. . . . for the GOP.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 24, 2025 10:56 AM (F/B4x)

93 67 Gen X is your last conservative generation.
My brothers span X and Y and the 2 Y's are flaming retarded libs.”

Not the last - you should talk to my 13 year old grandson and his friends. Remember that every generation absolutely hates whatever it is that their parents did. They’re not voting age yet, but in about 5 to 10 years they will be.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 24, 2025 10:57 AM (buOX2)

94 *checks dog-eared copy of Ewok's Rules of Order*
Posted by: Cicero

Good luck. Robert and whomever is this week's Sgt. At Arms are sitting in the bar celebrating the weekend.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at May 24, 2025 10:58 AM (Uzn0I)

95 92 >>NEW: DNC vice chair David Hogg says Democrat Rep. Jasmine Crockett is the perfect person to lead the Democratic Party.

A sassy black woman.
Of course!

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So Karen Bass and the Three Lesbians were otherwise engaged?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 24, 2025 10:58 AM (dDmld)

96 I think a fair number of them are waking up to the realization that the world is not "doomed and they are all screwed" but is instead "manipulated to screw them over on purpose"

What comes of that is still the question.
Posted by: A Shrubber at May 24, 2025 10:52 AM (D7oie)
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Trump's first term was an eye-opener on manufacturing, and then Biden's four-year recession revealed the bankruptcy of Democrat economics.

And the tariff fear-mongering collapsing so soon was also instructive.

Maybe our 'experts' WANT to keep us poor.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2025 10:58 AM (ZOv7s)

97 Are you the AOS Parliamentarian?

The Moron Code is more of a guideline.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2025 10:58 AM (/y8xj)

98 It is amusing to see the Marxists in Democrats' Clothing suddenly endorse the principle of States' Rights, claiming that a state ordinance (none dare call it law) is somehow immune from the correction of the Federal level.

Posted by: exdem13 FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT at May 24, 2025 10:59 AM (XjTSo)

99 David Hogg illuminates the way forward.

Collin Rugg@CollinRugg
NEW: DNC vice chair David Hogg says Democrat Rep. Jasmine Crockett is the perfect person to lead the Democratic Party.
I could not agree more.
"Jasmine Crockett. I love her. She is amazing."
"What we should be asking ourselves is, 'What are we really fighting for?' Because we know it matters."
"And I think Jasmine is frankly the type of leader that we're really looking to support..."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Available In Super Size! at May 24, 2025 10:53 AM (L/fGl)
——-

Nice try, little white boy honky cracker. Over-under on when Rachett shivs this limpdick in the back? 48 hours?

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at May 24, 2025 10:59 AM (vnUI1)

100 >>Remember that every generation absolutely hates whatever it is that their parents did.

There are even songs about it.

That's how you know it's a stupid argument.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 24, 2025 10:59 AM (viF8m)

101 Frostback awakens to a big surprise.

https://shorturl.at/qVfY6

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Available In Super Size! at May 24, 2025 10:59 AM (L/fGl)

102 Not the last - you should talk to my 13 year old grandson and his friends. Remember that every generation absolutely hates whatever it is that their parents did. They’re not voting age yet, but in about 5 to 10 years they will be.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 24, 2025 10:57 AM (buOX2)
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Yeah, it also depends on where you live. I'm in a liberal college town so hardly illustrative, but that only makes the rightward trends more interesting.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2025 11:00 AM (ZOv7s)

103 96
'And the tariff fear-mongering collapsing so soon was also instructive.

Maybe our 'experts' WANT to keep us poor.'

At a minimum, they earned not being considered experts.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 24, 2025 11:00 AM (3wi/L)

104 >>Not the last - you should talk to my 13 year old grandson and his friends. Remember that every generation absolutely hates whatever it is that their parents did. They’re not voting age yet, but in about 5 to 10 years they will be.

Yes. A lot of Gen Z *boys* are based. Their entire lives they've been told by teachers, the media, etc. that they are the worst, the cause of everything bad in the world throughout history. Welcome to the rebellion against all that progressive messaging!

Posted by: Lizzy at May 24, 2025 11:00 AM (F/B4x)

105 Heh, that's pretty good.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2025 10:53 AM

Stolen from Chesterton I think.

Posted by: toby928 at May 24, 2025 11:00 AM (jc0TO)

106 The senate parliamentarian is not elected by voters so I couldn’t give a mouse fart in a hurricane what this person thinks. To mimic Elaine’s mimbo Tony, he can “step off”

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 24, 2025 11:01 AM (6RwsA)

107 >>NEW: DNC vice chair David Hogg says Democrat Rep. Jasmine Crockett is the perfect person to lead the Democratic Party.

I thought Hogg had been dismissed.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at May 24, 2025 11:02 AM (kTd/k)

108 Not that this was a bad thing! I love 80s TV and movies, packed with Boomers! Magnum p.i. rules!

You really got your ego bruised, didn't you

Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2025 11:02 AM (D7oie)

109 Ca gov newscum demands Californians worship his EV false religion.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at May 24, 2025 11:03 AM (AZzxy)

110 Nonsense. History didn't start in the 1950s and it sure as hell didn't start with Gen X.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 24, 2025 10:53 AM (viF8m)

Is that some sort of arguement against what I said?
Becase I didn't say anything like that.
What I said is what I said. There are 4 of us. The two born before 1973 are conservative. The two born after 1977 are liberal as are their friends. I blame the hippies that replaced the guys who stormed Normandy. We were taught differently. I had history classes. My younger brothers had "social sciences".
Am I wrong to blame the schools for the stark contrast between political views of my brothers and I?

Posted by: Reforger at May 24, 2025 11:03 AM (xcIvR)

111 That's how you know it's a stupid argument.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 24, 2025 10:59 AM (viF8m)
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It's indisputable that there was a huge break in cultural continuity. No-fault divorce, women in the workforce (not under wartime pressure, but as a choice), abortion on demand, the complete collapse of sexual morality.

At no point in American history did we even have a measurable divorce rate, let alone one hovering at 50%.

We can debate causation (which is what I would like to do) but the facts are beyond debate.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2025 11:04 AM (ZOv7s)

112 82 Progressivism is the belief that society would be better ordered if it was run by an intellectual elite.

A Progressive is someone who imagines themselves a part of this elite.

Heh, that's pretty good.
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"The ideal state, dear Critas, is ruled by a philosopher-king who is supported by brainwashed boys trained only to obey him." - Socrates, in "Repbulic" by Plato, the heavily abridged edition

Posted by: exdem13 FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT at May 24, 2025 11:04 AM (XjTSo)

113 There are even songs about it.

That's how you know it's a stupid argument.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 24, 2025 10:59 AM (viF8m)

It reminds me of one of my favorite lines - do you know why grandparents and grandchildren get along so well?

Because they have a common enemy.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 24, 2025 11:04 AM (buOX2)

114 Stolen from Chesterton I think.
Posted by: toby928

I love stealing Gilbert's stuff.

“The heresies that have attacked human happiness in my time, have all been variations either of presumption or of despair; which, in the controversies of modern culture, are called optimism and pessimism.”
"The pessimist is obviously given to despair. But the optimist, with his presumption, has also, in effect lost hope. The point about hope is that it is humble. It does not presume the thing that is hoped for."

Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at May 24, 2025 11:05 AM (Uzn0I)

115 The congress needs to axe california. Maybe sell it to the Norks or the Houthis. The residents there wouldn't know the difference anyways.

Posted by: Axe California at May 24, 2025 11:05 AM (R/m4+)

116 SOmehow I can be a member of this site for nearly two decades & misspell "Republic". >_<

Posted by: exdem13 FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT at May 24, 2025 11:05 AM (XjTSo)

117 Good morning! Hope everyone is doing well, and of course continued prayers for KT. Waiting for the thunderstorm to pass to go for a run with the kiddo. It may be a run/ sauna all in one!

Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2025 11:06 AM (p4NUW)

118 You really got your ego bruised, didn't you
Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2025 11:02 AM (D7oie)
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Yep, ignore the substance, go personal.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2025 11:06 AM (ZOv7s)

119 I never saw CAFE standards on the ballot.
Bring back small pickup trucks.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 24, 2025 11:06 AM (dg+HA)

120 NEW: DNC vice chair David Hogg says Democrat Rep. Jasmine Crockett is the perfect person to lead the Democratic Party.

I thought Hogg had been dismissed.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at May 24, 2025 11:02 AM (kTd/k)
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The election was voided but Hogg and the other scumbag stay on as interim VPs until there’s a new election

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at May 24, 2025 11:07 AM (vnUI1)

121 The election was voided but Hogg and the other scumbag stay on as interim VPs until there’s a new election
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at May 24, 2025 11:07 AM (vnUI1)
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LOL, revolution already eating its own.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2025 11:08 AM (ZOv7s)

122 I don't know what the WEF's full plan is, but the military must be a linchpin because they're coming after Hegseth again. This time he may have plagiarized part of his college thesis.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 24, 2025 11:09 AM (xlvhb)

123 Good morning! Hope everyone is doing well, and of course continued prayers for KT. Waiting for the thunderstorm to pass to go for a run with the kiddo. It may be a run/ sauna all in one!
Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2025 11:06 AM (p4NUW)

I ran early this morning here in north Texas and the moment I stepped outside I felt the humidity. It was a struggle. Made me think of Kramer sitting in a sauna saying “Whew! It’s like a sauna in here!”

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 24, 2025 11:09 AM (6RwsA)

124 122 I don't know what the WEF's full plan is, but the military must be a linchpin because they're coming after Hegseth again. This time he may have plagiarized part of his college thesis.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 24

Oh boy, this is a huge glass house!

Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2025 11:10 AM (p4NUW)

125 39 Waivers cannot be removed?
Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2025 10:37 AM (D7oie)

I haven't had my caffeine yet ...

I thought you said:

***Wieners cannot be removed?***

Posted by: browndog says what ??? at May 24, 2025 11:10 AM (TTAGa)

126 I thought it fit in this fight

M Burlingame
@EMBurlingame
20h
Just Stay In It | by: E.M. Burlingame

The world’s a goddamn mess—war, greed, lies piled up like filthy laundry. People clawing, scrapping, tearing each other down for a fistful of dust. It’s a brutal, ugly thing, and here’s the kicker: you can’t fix it. No amount of yelling or wishing or praying’s gonna turn this chaos into something it’s not. It’s just there, cruel and mean, and it’ll keep on being that way whether you consume yourself or not. So let it be. Stop fighting the impossible fight that’s already lost.

For, in the middle of all that noise, there’s something else. Little things, slipping through the cracks like light under a door [ . . . ]
And that’s where the real fight lives. Not in changing the world—screw that—but in sticking it out. You wake up, pour a drink, scratch out a few words, maybe even love somebody as busted as you are. It’s not about glory or some fairy-tale ending. It’s about saying, I’m still here, you bastards, even when it feels little more than nothing. That’s the spark, the gut-level drive to keep swinging. Not pretty, not noble—just raw and real. And that’s all you need to stay in it.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2025 11:10 AM (D7oie)

127 100 >>Remember that every generation absolutely hates whatever it is that their parents did.

There are even songs about it.

That's how you know it's a stupid argument.
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I dunno. I think it's fun to sing all the old "message rock" and progressive folkie songs with a Trump-era slant. It really annoys my Folk Song Army Leftist parents.

Posted by: exdem13 FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT at May 24, 2025 11:10 AM (XjTSo)

128 I gotta eat breakfast and go make firewood.

Chau, pues!

Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2025 11:10 AM (D7oie)

129 >>It's indisputable that there was a huge break in cultural continuity. No-fault divorce, women in the workforce (not under wartime pressure, but as a choice), abortion on demand, the complete collapse of sexual morality.

There's always been huge breaks in cultural continuity. Do you think your generation or subsequent ones are somehow unique?

Look at ancient Rome. Did you happen to notice there were some breaks from cultural continuity? They even put that shit on pottery when they weren't too busy doing it in a coliseum. We now have generations who don't know what's a tab and what's a slot. Who's fault is that? Yours?

History is a non-stop repetition of what happened before. That's the human condition. The trick is to stop blaming millions of people who came before you and fix it. It has always been this way and always will.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 24, 2025 11:11 AM (viF8m)

130
99

Collin Rugg@CollinRugg
NEW: DNC vice chair David Hogg says Democrat Rep. Jasmine Crockett is the perfect person to lead the Democratic Party.
I could not agree more.
"Jasmine Crockett. I love her. She is amazing."

Nice try, little white boy honky cracker. Over-under on when Rachett shivs this limpdick in the back? 48 hours?
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at May 24, 2025 10:59 AM (vnUI1)

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I think maybe she'll keep quiet and hope everyone forgets.

I recall that roadhouse scene in "Animal House:"

"Otis! My man!"

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 24, 2025 11:11 AM (QwK6F)

131 Just looked up Hogg. There's going to be a DNC vote 6/9-6/11 to determine if there should be an election to determine if the prior election should be undone. Talk about the department of redundancy department

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 24, 2025 11:12 AM (eDGGN)

132 Consider this; people who went to school during the 60's and 70's... elementary through high school, were pretty much mimicking what was a typical workweek schedule of the time. Get up, go someplace, get assigned tasks, go home. Every Monday - Friday.

Rince. Repeat.

I think, by design that fostered a particular type of work ethic.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 24, 2025 11:13 AM (Q4IgG)

133 123 Good morning! Hope everyone is doing well, and of course continued prayers for KT. Waiting for the thunderstorm to pass to go for a run with the kiddo. It may be a run/ sauna all in one!
Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2025 11:06 AM (p4NUW)

I ran early this morning here in north Texas and the moment I stepped outside I felt the humidity. It was a struggle. Made me think of Kramer sitting in a sauna saying “Whew! It’s like a sauna in here!”
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Here in Little Oaxaca on the Miami we had a seasonal low this week. The thermometer said "56" but the wind said "52", and at night it went to "42"!

Posted by: exdem13 FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT at May 24, 2025 11:13 AM (XjTSo)

134 I saw an article in First Things from their back catalog (they post old articles on their web site from time to time) claiming that the root of the sexual revolution was the demographic imbalance caused by WW II. When the Baby Boom kicked off, it came after a baby bust, which meant that a women born in 1947-48 vastly outnumbered men born in 1943-44, and since women generally prefer to marry men who are a bit older and more established, competition became fierce and that the old values broke down.

Jump ahead to the late 1960s, when these women are in college, and finding a husband is a lot more difficult.

As time passes, the women left short, become more determined and so burn their bras in a last desperate attempt to find a man, and this in turn puts pressure on younger women to do the same.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2025 11:13 AM (ZOv7s)

135 “Democracy” Means Regulations Written by Bureaucrats Cannot Be Overturned by Congress and the President

Double-Blind Representative Despotism -
- People get to pretend who to vote for a Senator. Somebody is somehow selected to be Senator. Senator goes into room with 99 other Senators.
- People get to pretend who to vote for from President. Somebody is then somehow selected to be 'Presdient'.
- President nominates Despots
- Senate approves or rejects these lifetime Despots.

- The lowest level Despots issue edicts on whatever the fuck they want, whenever the fuck they want.
- Two higher echelons of Despots may change lower level edicts. Whether they do or not is none of the peoples business.

- Meanwhile thousands of unelected Mandarins are cranking out 'laws' that Despots can put your ass in prison if you do not abide.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2025 11:14 AM (/lPRQ)

136 Not the last - you should talk to my 13 year old grandson and his friends. Remember that every generation absolutely hates whatever it is that their parents did. They’re not voting age yet, but in about 5 to 10 years they will be.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 24, 2025 10:57 AM

Interesting to read this after earlier this week I remember someone making the comment that "remember that kids typically take on the politics of their parents" in the discussion of most liberals not having kids anymore while most conservatives still have families.

That aside, I think the latest demographic information I saw showed that young women are becoming more "progressive" while young men are becoming more conservative. So, I don't think it's the younger generation as a whole which is conservative, but just the younger male generation. And I think that has a lot to do with the past 2-3 decades of culture and society denigrating boys and men and masculinity in general.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 24, 2025 11:14 AM (P5BPp)

137 123
I ran early this morning here in north Texas and the moment I stepped outside I felt the humidity. It was a struggle. Made me think of Kramer sitting in a sauna saying “Whew! It’s like a sauna in here!”
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 24, 2025 11:09 AM (6RwsA)

🤣. If it’s too bad here in south Alabama, I will go to the studio. I just didn’t get myself together quickly enough to go to class. But in my absence, they sold 3 memberships so maybe I should leave everyone alone more often!

Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2025 11:15 AM (p4NUW)

138 Just Stay In It | by: E.M. Burlingame

The world’s a goddamn mess—war, greed, lies piled up like filthy laundry. People clawing, scrapping, tearing each other down for a fistful of dust. It’s a brutal, ugly thing, and here’s the kicker: you can’t fix it. No amount of yelling or wishing or praying’s gonna turn this chaos into something it’s not. It’s just there, cruel and mean, and it’ll keep on being that way whether you consume yourself or not. So let it be. Stop fighting the impossible fight that’s already lost.

For, in the middle of all that noise, there’s something else. Little things, slipping through the cracks like light under a door [ . . . ]
And that’s where the real fight lives. Not in changing the world—screw that—but in sticking it out. You wake up, pour a drink, scratch out a few words, maybe even love somebody as busted as you are. It’s not about glory or some fairy-tale ending. It’s about saying, I’m still here, you bastards, even when it feels little more than nothing. That’s the spark, the gut-level drive to keep swinging. Not pretty, not noble—just raw and real. And that’s all you need to stay in it.

TL

R

Illegitimi non carborundum

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2025 11:15 AM (s8j++)

139 I was hoping Hogg Boy would stay asshead of the DNC.

It would have been a barrel of laughs.

Fight Hogg Boy! Fight!

Posted by: Boss Hogg at May 24, 2025 11:15 AM (R/m4+)

140 Just looked up Hogg. There's going to be a DNC vote 6/9-6/11 to determine if there should be an election to determine if the prior election should be undone. Talk about the department of redundancy department
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 24, 2025 11:12 AM (eDGGN)

(In Curly voice)… That’s confusing, Moe!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 24, 2025 11:15 AM (ANuwa)

141 matters."
"And I think Jasmine is frankly the type of leader that we're really looking to support..."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Available In Super Size! at May 24, 2025 10:53 AM (L/fGl)

He’s in favor of the path the Texas Dem Party has been on for 30 years now - no surprise that Jasmine is from a Texas ghetto district in South Dallas. (Her voters are mainly ho’s, pimps, illegals, drug dealers and their clients, if you wonder how she got elected)

30 years ago Texas Dems said they wanted to be the Brown and Black Party. That turned into being the Ghetto party, + illegals, + trannies. Explains their priorities, and also why the only political competition in Texas currently is GOP-MAGA vs GOP-e, + Bush Family machine, + CofC.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 24, 2025 11:15 AM (buOX2)

142 I don't know what the WEF's full plan is, but the military must be a linchpin because they're coming after Hegseth again. This time he may have plagiarized part of his college thesis.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 24, 2025 11:09 AM (xlvhb)
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So he's qualified to be an Ivy League president then.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2025 11:16 AM (ZOv7s)

143 Martini Farmer - our educational system, which was modeled on the 19th century Prussian system, was designed to turn out three different products: worker drones, middle managers, and the ruling intellectuals. Somewhere along the line, the commies hijacked it and now the goal is to produce little Red Guards. Frankly, I'd rather have the worker drones.

Posted by: PabloD at May 24, 2025 11:18 AM (KnSOh)

144 >>You really got your ego bruised, didn't you

Maybe he can write a book about hating an entire generation of Americans add it to the list of those that practically nobody purchases. lol

Posted by: one hour sober at May 24, 2025 11:20 AM (Y1sOo)

145 There's always been huge breaks in cultural continuity. Do you think your generation or subsequent ones are somehow unique?

Posted by: JackStraw at May 24, 2025 11:11 AM (viF8m)
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Well, yes, because it is. I'd hoped that someone of your analytical bent would join me in drilling down into this because that is precisely how one goes about fixing something.

Observing that something bad happened in 1965 does not indict everyone who was alive at the time.

The question is: how did things change so radically so fast? We can then move onto: how do we restore what was lost?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2025 11:20 AM (ZOv7s)

146 Maybe he can write a book about hating an entire generation of Americans add it to the list of those that practically nobody purchases. lol
Posted by: one hour sober at May 24, 2025 11:20 AM (Y1sOo)
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Ah, there you are. Do you need a hug?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2025 11:21 AM (ZOv7s)

147 122
'I don't know what the WEF's full plan is, but the military must be a linchpin because they're coming after Hegseth again.'

Yeah. Their consistency is a tell.
Fire some more leftists, Pete!

Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 24, 2025 11:21 AM (3wi/L)

148 90 California has been doing this for at least 40 years in various areas-- e.g. tuna regs. CA says canned tuna must be "this" and excludes tuna canned in other states. CA used to be such an outsized market compared to other states, this effectively "ruled" the other states. NO MORE and time to put a stop to it.
Posted by: susan Harms at May 24, 2025 10:55 AM (Kkd7F)

See also, eggs, pork, beef, and diesel trucks manufactured (IIRC) prior to 2012. You want to look for the next greatest generation? It'll be the one that sanctions California for decades of Interstate Commerce interference and breaks it up into enterprise zones managed by industry experts (energy, agriculture and education).

Posted by: Joe Kidd at May 24, 2025 11:22 AM (bA75n)

149 142 I don't know what the WEF's full plan is, but the military must be a linchpin because they're coming after Hegseth again. This time he may have plagiarized part of his college thesis.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 24, 2025 11:09 AM (xlvhb)
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So he's qualified to be an Ivy League president then.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2025 11:16 AM (ZOv7s)

At worst ...

Aim higher: The 46th President of the USA

Posted by: browndog copied that at May 24, 2025 11:22 AM (TTAGa)

150 Only going up to the mid 50s today here on the mid Hudson. Been cold and rainy all week, but at least it's sunny today. Finally this coming week will reach the mid 70s

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 24, 2025 11:22 AM (eDGGN)

151
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Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2025 11:24 AM (/lPRQ)

152 Interesting to read this after earlier this week I remember someone making the comment that "remember that kids typically take on the politics of their parents" in the discussion of most liberals not having kids anymore while most conservatives still have families.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 24, 2025 11:14 AM (P5BPp)
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The most accurate presidential poll for decades was the Weekly Reader. I think it broke after 2004 and that's why we don't hear about it much. Either that or it was abandoned.

It worked because most adults were parents and their kids (especially in elementary school) were reliable proxies for how their parents would vote. As family formation dropped, the poll became less predictive.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2025 11:24 AM (ZOv7s)

153 129
'The trick is to stop blaming millions of people who came before you and fix it. '

Blame individuals not the group.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 24, 2025 11:24 AM (3wi/L)

154 The question is: how did things change so radically so fast? We can then move onto: how do we restore what was lost?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2025 11:20 AM (ZOv7s)

It’s bigger than our country, or our generations. I think it’s fair to look at the period from 1914 - 1948 as one huge continuity shift for all of Western Civilization; some of it survived, much of it did not. I do not believe we have the ability to ever bring back what was lost, but we can work on crafting a new reality which encourages some of the best of the past to return.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 24, 2025 11:26 AM (buOX2)

155 >>Blame individuals not the group.

That sounds suspiciously like an adult thing to do.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 24, 2025 11:26 AM (viF8m)

156 The fix is for Trump to sign a waiver to Biden's waiver.

Posted by: Minuteman at May 24, 2025 11:27 AM (47/pr)

157 >>It reminds me of one of my favorite lines - do you know why grandparents and grandchildren get along so well?

Because they have a common enemy.

LOL!
My kid got along with my parents because they spoiled him. Not outrageously, just little things, rules that applied when he spent time with him that were different from home: a little bit more give here, a little bit more discipline there. I trusted them, so he didn't come with instructions or an expectation that they reinforce every last rule from home. Though I never stop teasing my mom for introducing him to Mountain Dew when he was in 2nd grade - oof!

I also always let them give him the best Christmas present, whatever was at the top of his list (of reasonable gift ideas).

Posted by: Lizzy at May 24, 2025 11:27 AM (F/B4x)

158 Maybe he can write a book about hating an entire generation of Americans add it to the list of those that practically nobody purchases. lol
Posted by: one hour sober at May 24, 2025 11:20 AM (Y1sOo)

How many books have you written?
Maybe go back to drinking. I bet drunk you isn't as big of an asshole.

Posted by: Reforger at May 24, 2025 11:28 AM (xcIvR)

159 >>That sounds suspiciously like an adult thing to do.

Indeed.

Posted by: one hour sober at May 24, 2025 11:29 AM (Y1sOo)

160 This'll fix everything!

Hotels in LA Revolt as City Approves $38 Minimum Wage

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Available In Super Size! at May 24, 2025 11:29 AM (L/fGl)

161 It’s bigger than our country, or our generations. I think it’s fair to look at the period from 1914 - 1948 as one huge continuity shift for all of Western Civilization; some of it survived, much of it did not. I do not believe we have the ability to ever bring back what was lost, but we can work on crafting a new reality which encourages some of the best of the past to return.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 24, 2025 11:26 AM (buOX2)
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The problem with that analysis is that the US did not experience the truly massive population loss, border revisions and widespread destruction that Europe did. Our wartime experience was unpleasant (rations, conscription) but we existed both wars into an extended period of prosperity.

You're right, returning is maybe the wrong term, so "how do we move to a better future" may be more accurate.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2025 11:29 AM (ZOv7s)

162 Collin Rugg@CollinRugg
NEW: DNC vice chair David Hogg says Democrat Rep. Jasmine Crockett is the perfect person to lead the Democratic Party.
I could not agree more.
"Jasmine Crockett. I love her. She is amazing."
"What we should be asking ourselves is, 'What are we really fighting for?' Because we know it matters."
"And I think Jasmine is frankly the type of leader that we're really looking to support..."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Available In Super Size! at May 24, 2025 10:53 AM (L/fGl)

David loves me.

----The Chicken

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at May 24, 2025 11:29 AM (g8Ew8)

163 156 The fix is for Trump to sign a waiver to Biden's waiver.
Posted by: Minuteman at May 24, 2025 11:27 AM (47/pr)

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Contrive to make the District Court Hula Judges spit out the real foundational principle: "Only Dem Presidents Whose Policies We Agree With Can Do That"

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 24, 2025 11:29 AM (dDmld)

164 Gas in Pa seems to have creeper up to almost $3,30, Delaware $2.91

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2025 11:30 AM (ypFCm)

165 149 142 I don't know what the WEF's full plan is, but the military must be a linchpin because they're coming after Hegseth again. This time he may have plagiarized part of his college thesis.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 24, 2025 11:09 AM (xlvhb)

The military is always a linchpin. I find this story comical, because with all the scrutiny he’s been under, this is the best they can come up with? I’ll bet he got a traffic ticket once as well. As attacks go, that’s pathetic.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 24, 2025 11:30 AM (buOX2)

166 It worked because most adults were parents and their kids (especially in elementary school) were reliable proxies for how their parents would vote. As family formation dropped, the poll became less predictive.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2025 11:24 AM

Could be why they now break down male and female voters into single/married male/female voters. As we've seen there is a distinct difference between how those demographics vote (single typically for Democrats, married typically for Republicans).

Soon they may look to break that down even further into married with/without children. As it seems there is a "DINK" demographic now (Dual Income, No Kids), as was stupidly trending on social media a while back where "DINKs" were celebrating everything they could enjoy in life with no kids.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 24, 2025 11:31 AM (P5BPp)

167 Nood

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 24, 2025 11:31 AM (2UnvF)

168 I also always let them give him the best Christmas present, whatever was at the top of his list (of reasonable gift ideas).
Posted by: Lizzy at May 24, 2025 11:27 AM (F/B4x)

I was always glad my mom accidentally gave our son a peanut butter and jelly sandwich when he was young at a time when my wife was not giving him peanut products afraid he might have an allergy. He survived the sandwich and we didn’t have to worry about all that avoidance for years afterwards. Bravo Mom!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 24, 2025 11:32 AM (6RwsA)

169 164 Gas in Pa seems to have creeper up to almost $3,30, Delaware $2.91
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2025 11:30 AM (ypFCm)

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*cough*

$5.19

*cough

Posted by: Gas Prices in Gavin Newsom's Progressive Utopia at May 24, 2025 11:32 AM (dDmld)

170 And now it's gone

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 24, 2025 11:32 AM (2UnvF)

171 Soon they may look to break that down even further into married with/without children. As it seems there is a "DINK" demographic now (Dual Income, No Kids), as was stupidly trending on social media a while back where "DINKs" were celebrating everything they could enjoy in life with no kids.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 24, 2025 11:31 AM (P5BPp)
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IIRC, Franco created an advisory legislature and the franchise was limited based on family/parenting status.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2025 11:33 AM (ZOv7s)

172 Massive wage hike = bankrupt hotels = more housing for fentanyl addicts at taxpayer expense. Winning!

Posted by: PabloD at May 24, 2025 11:33 AM (tK60h)

173 That sounds suspiciously like an adult thing to do.

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Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Available In Super Size! at May 24, 2025 11:33 AM (L/fGl)

174 What happened to the "Greatest Generation"?

Guess they were not so great and are largely forgotten.

/I am about 100 comments behind so this collective mind-fart may have been addressed by now...

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2025 11:34 AM (/lPRQ)

175
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The problem with that analysis is that the US did not experience the truly massive population loss, border revisions and widespread destruction that Europe did.”

I argue that none of those things had nearly the civilization-wide effects that the complete transformation of the idea of governance had, along with the abandonment of the idea that the family is the foundational source for all organization. Europe dove into totalitarianism in all of its various types - in response America massively expanded its own government to one that can be called quasi imperial, and which has powers that earlier generations would have considered unthinkable.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 24, 2025 11:37 AM (buOX2)

176 It’s bigger than our country, or our generations. I think it’s fair to look at the period from 1914 - 1948 as one huge continuity shift for all of Western Civilization; some of it survived, much of it did not. I do not believe we have the ability to ever bring back what was lost, but we can work on crafting a new reality which encourages some of the best of the past to return.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 24, 2025 11:26 AM

The quote from "Lord of the Rings" has always stayed with me and hits harder as time goes by.

"The world has changed. I see it in the water. I feel it in the Earth. I smell it in the air. Much that once was is lost, for none now live who remember it."

The issue we have had in Western Civilization the past few decades has not been that "none now live who remember it", but rather those who do remember it are outnumbered and denigrated by those who want civilization to forget it.

Just take the denigration of 1950s conservative culture or the "Ok, Boomer" movement which aims to discredit anything someone "old" has to say about good things from the past that are no longer cherished.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 24, 2025 11:38 AM (P5BPp)

177 Not the last - you should talk to my 13 year old grandson and his friends. Remember that every generation absolutely hates whatever it is that their parents did. They’re not voting age yet, but in about 5 to 10 years they will be.

Posted by: Tom Servo

During the Reign of Obama I was driving one of my kids and a friend somewhere. The saw a dead animal on the side of the road,
"Oh, look, dead critter."
"OMG, that is soooo RACIST!!!"
LOLOLOLOL

Mocking everything then being pushed in the news.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2025 11:38 AM (/lPRQ)

178 Hotels in LA Revolt as City Approves $38 Minimum Wage

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Available In Super Size! at May 24, 2025 11:29 AM

Out of curiosity, I Grok'd this:

The Los Angeles City Council recently approved a significant minimum wage increase for hotel and airport workers, set to reach $30 per hour by 2028, not $38 as some sources have claimed. The ordinance will incrementally raise the minimum wage, starting at $22.50 in July 2025 and increasing annually.

This has sparked strong opposition from the hotel industry, with some hotels threatening to withdraw from contracts related to the 2028 Olympics, citing potential financial strain, higher room rates, reduced hours, and job losses. Industry groups like the American Hotel & Lodging Association have warned of an "economic tsunami," especially given recent challenges like wildfires impacting L.A.'s tourism sector. However, supporters argue the wage hike will stabilize the tourism workforce, benefiting approximately 23,000 workers. Critics, including some X users and local groups, predict hotels may turn to automation or AI to offset costs, potentially reducing jobs.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 24, 2025 11:41 AM (P5BPp)

179 However, supporters argue the [$38 minimum] wage hike will stabilize the tourism workforce, benefiting approximately 23,000 workers. Critics, including some X users and local groups, predict hotels may turn to automation or AI to offset costs, potentially reducing jobs.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 24, 2025 11:41 AM

The supporters are fools. 23,000 workers will not benefit from this at all. Half of them likely will be fired. Maybe the other half will benefit from the wage hike. Until they can also be replaced by AI. Just as happened in the fast food industry when minimum wage hikes were enacted.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 24, 2025 11:44 AM (P5BPp)

180 K.T., I always look forward to your Saturday morning posts.
Take care and get well.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2025 11:49 AM (wYTRi)

181 86 the bureaucrats

Posted by: Richard Cranium at May 24, 2025 11:50 AM (CF6jR)

182 "But it also infuriates me, because we are seeing the “Save our democracy” movement evolve into a bizzarro world where regulations written by bureaucrats, and which effectively serve as federal law, are immune from being overturned by Congress, the law-making body under the Constitution."

It was always calvinball. I have told you all for years: the lefty mouth noises are just a distraction until the killing fields start

Posted by: heya at May 24, 2025 11:50 AM (LshY0)

183 Can't you folks go back to longbows vs crossbows, 45 vs 9mm, or MaryAnn vs Ginger and drop the generational wars for a couple of weeks?
Course I'm an edge case, I thought I was the end of the boomers for years and recently read that no, I'm considered gen X now. And I don't even know the order. Did it go boomer, X, Y, millennial, Z? Or is it millennial, Y, Z?

Posted by: PaleRider at May 24, 2025 11:51 AM (CKOCg)

184 And I don't even know the order. Did it go boomer, X, Y, millennial, Z? Or is it millennial, Y, Z?
Posted by: PaleRider

Gen 'Y' didn't like being the 'Why' gen. Right up there with the Lost gen. So they went with millennial.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2025 11:56 AM (/lPRQ)

185 Course I'm an edge case, I thought I was the end of the boomers for years and recently read that no, I'm considered gen X now. And I don't even know the order. Did it go boomer, X, Y, millennial, Z? Or is it millennial, Y, Z?
Posted by: PaleRider at May 24, 2025 11:51 AM (CKOCg)

Me too. To me, the boomers were my friends much older brothers and sisters, the ones who were old enough to get in on the 60’s and all that meant.
Boomers grew up on the Beatles, Dylan, and Pete Paul & Mary. Me and my friends grew up in Led Zeppelin and The Who.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 24, 2025 11:57 AM (buOX2)

186 NOOD Penny

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 24, 2025 12:13 PM (VNX3d)

187 Simple: revoke Statehood for California

As a territory their regulation is void

Posted by: Fen at May 24, 2025 01:02 PM (ciYHQ)

188 "Suck it, Gavin"

Not just Gavin, but Jay Inslee and the rest of the Washington state Democrats who voted for the same thing.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at May 24, 2025 06:40 PM (eYAt4)

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