Gun Thread: Lack O' Content Episode 1 Edition!

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Friday evening I was on the deck finishing a cigar when it started to look like rain. And it rained with some wind thrown in as a special bonus. The weather service at Ronald Reagan Airport which is not far away recorded hurricane force gusts. Below are some pictures of what happened in my backyard during the storm that literally lasted about five minutes.

With that, step into the dojo and let's get to the lame-o content below, shall we?

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Weasel's Excuse For Lame-O content This Week and Probably Next

My back yard slopes down into a ravine where there is a busy street. Two bigly oak trees on the other side of the road came down in a mighty crash taking out the power and utility lines.

Yes, there was a car under the mess. Miraculously the driver walked away and is OK, but the car was all smashed all to shit on the passenger side. Had they been another six feet along, it would have been a different story.

Even more miraculous-er is the fact that Weasel Woman was making her way home at the time, and the white car was immediately behind WW. I really don't want to think about that too much.

Here is what it looks like after I spent this morning cleaning up a bit. At the end of the day all that was lost are a few sections of picket fence which can be replaced.

All this happened Friday evening, and the utilities were restored early this morning, or about 30 hours later. Not a big deal, but Saturday (yesterday) was the day I had planned to write this week's and next week's Gun Threads as I will be traveling through Memorial Day.

Q: Weasel, how will this affect us?
A: You get pretty much a zero effort content this week, and very probably not much more than that next week.

Apologies in advance and thank you for understanding!

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Alright, guys and gals, the long awaited and highly anticipated details of the 2025 NoVAMoMe are here! That's right, I finally got my act together and updated the information page for 2025, and need to go over a few details. First, the date is June 21st, 2025. Nextly, my bestest blog buddy bluebell and I have decided 2025 will be a year of NoVAMoMe simplification, and want to pass along the changes from prior years.

First, no more registration and no more advance charge for food. If you would like to attend, send an email to WeaselBell Productions, and let us know. You will be directed to a sekrit webpage with all of the details. We do ask once you have decided to attend to let us know so we can coordinate an expected count with venue management. Once there if you are hungry or thirsty simply order from the onsite menu and pay separately. Cash and credit cards accepted. Next, although fun, we have decided to take a break from the raffles and mug sales this year. Depending on how it goes, that may be something we bring back in future years. While your generosity is always appreciated, with no prize table, please leave donations and contributions at home, but bring your appetite for a great afternoon spent with your imaginary online friends.

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Thanks.
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Seriously, just send an email then go to the website with the password provided. If you forget, a link to the email is on the main page, left sidebar. If you do not sign up, bluebell will be disappointed. Weasel will be disappointed, too, but it's bluebell you need to worry about.

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That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

Posted by: Weasel at 07:00 PM

Comments

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1 Gubs!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 18, 2025 07:00 PM (Wnv9h)

2 The Others have been summoned.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 18, 2025 07:01 PM (Wnv9h)

3 Yikes!
I had a lawn chair blown over.

Posted by: RI Red at May 18, 2025 07:01 PM (/gl0q)

4 I'm glad everyone at Weasel Acres is safe and sound.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 18, 2025 07:02 PM (CHHv1)

5 Damn, brother. That's some serious tree damage. Glad everyone's OK.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 18, 2025 07:03 PM (Wnv9h)

6 Nice photo essay, esse.

Had something like that* happen during one hurricane season. Literally two lots away. I watched them cleanup the mess from the front porch.

* No crushed car but did have tmultiple trees over power line cross the street.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 18, 2025 07:03 PM (/lPRQ)

7 Good afternoon, Weasel. My grandson was working the power outages in VA this last weekend. If you saw a 6'5" 250lb guy climbing a pole using spikes, that was him.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 18, 2025 07:04 PM (tT6L1)

8 Glad everyone is OK. We had some fierce gusts, but no real damage.

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at May 18, 2025 07:05 PM (Hdixl)

9 A Cherry Pop-Tart?

Inspired by which firearm?

Posted by: Cow Demon at May 18, 2025 07:05 PM (vm8sq)

10 Hello, Weasel! I sent you some material for a future thread about my experience with the new H&K CC9 earlier today. I went to the range earlier on Friday before the storm hit with my H&K SP5. That's always a fun one to take to the range.

Posted by: Ed L at May 18, 2025 07:06 PM (AiJK3)

11 Been through a fair share of those kinds of storms and a tornado or three.

Glad everyone is okay.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 18, 2025 07:06 PM (tT6L1)

12 Wait.
Are you saying you didn’t have paper and pencil?
Or even crayons?
Very weak.

Posted by: RI Red at May 18, 2025 07:07 PM (/gl0q)

13 We will accept that as an excuse. This time.

But seriously... holy shit! Glad everyone is OK.

Posted by: screaming in digital at May 18, 2025 07:07 PM (Szews)

14 Crazy weather. The wind is picking up here. Up to 23 mph sustained. Storms are well off to my east.

Posted by: Cow Demon at May 18, 2025 07:10 PM (vm8sq)

15 And, with that, range report. Daughter of Blake was in town for a few days and dad had promised her a range day. We headed out with a couple Springfield Range Officer and a Kimber KDS9c for DoB to check out. DoB much preferred the Range Officer so, it was given to DoB as a parting gift.

We then went over to the silhouette range for DoB to try an M1 Garand and a Ruger Gunsite Scout. The M1 didn't do much for my daughter but she liked the Gunsite Scout. In fact, she liked it enough to show me how to hit a 5" steel plate @ 300 meters using the red dot I have on it. Overall, great father daughter range day.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 18, 2025 07:11 PM (tT6L1)

16 BLAM BLAM BLAM!!!

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 18, 2025 07:11 PM (mT+6a)

17 Weasel, I (reluctantly) had all of the mature trees (oaks and sycamores) on my property removed a few years ago because they were all hollow and getting weaker with age. It cost more $$ than I wanted to spend, but it was definitely worth it to do it ahead of time instead of having Mother Nature toss them about. Having one of those trees fall on to one of the neighbors' houses would not have been good.

Posted by: Ed L at May 18, 2025 07:12 PM (AiJK3)

18 blake, what a fun day for you both

Posted by: Ben Had at May 18, 2025 07:13 PM (NVNRw)

19 Content, schmontent ... just glad that all is well !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 18, 2025 07:13 PM (/Ghsb)

20 BLAM BLAM BLAM!!!
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 18, 2025 07:11 PM

Geez, lady, calm the fuck down!!

Posted by: The Woodpeckers at May 18, 2025 07:14 PM (Wnv9h)

21
BLAM BLAM BLAM!!!
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 18, 2025 07:11 PM (mT+6a)

_________

Missed

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 18, 2025 07:14 PM (QnmlO)

22 Evening All!!!

Loved the Babylon Bee video. :-)

Weasel, good to hear no injuries or worse in your neck of the woods. Is this what happens when tree farming goes rogue?

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 18, 2025 07:14 PM (0XVad)

23 We will all muddle through somehow, I'm sure ...

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 18, 2025 07:14 PM (/Ghsb)

24 I dun saw a poptart...then took a second or two for me to see the shape...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 18, 2025 07:15 PM (ynpvh)

25 Just saw a picture of the guy that blew up the IVF clinic in Florida.
The very example of a soy boy.
With that said, he sure knew how to make a bomb.

Posted by: Erebus- Ex Killer Whale at May 18, 2025 07:17 PM (elaR+)

26 I did not know TJM did videos. I know he watches them, but, make?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 18, 2025 07:18 PM (tT6L1)

27 Glad to hear the family is fine Weasel!

Thanks for the Gun Thread no matter how skimpy!!!!!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 18, 2025 07:18 PM (qV16T)

28 Howdy!

OT: Gangsta Scottie Sheffler won the PGA Championship, easily. A 5 shot victory. Good for him! Last year, at the PGA Championship, some cop tried to stop him, but Gangsta Scottie Scheffler fought back, Yo! Fight the Power, Scottie!!

Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by meow at May 18, 2025 07:19 PM (sAmhv)

29 The poptart looks to be chambered in .45

No range report for me. Hit the golf range last weekend and started jury duty on Wednesday. Soooooooo boring.
Thursday we all reported at 9:30am and left at 4:30. Was only in the courtroom for maybe a half hour the entire day hearing the case. Really, really hope the case does not go past the expected 2 weeks. Otherwise a doctor's appointment and a certain trip to NH are in jeopardy.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 18, 2025 07:22 PM (0XVad)

30 Ben, yep, it sure was a great time.

And, in further news, new barrel has shipped, which means rifle is now stripped down in anticipation of the new barrel arriving. I've got somewhat of a condensed load work up schedule as I need to get the barrel installed and get some halfway decent loads put together in time for the match next Saturday. I also did a trigger job but the 1.5 lb trigger may be a bit too light. But, I won't know until I try out the rifle next Friday.

Rifle still has the Savage Accutrigger, though which may help, what with the trigger safety.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 18, 2025 07:24 PM (tT6L1)

31 Oh, look. A Glock tart

Posted by: Ben Had at May 18, 2025 07:24 PM (NVNRw)

32 Schumer blames Trump and DOGE "cuts" for Mexican ship crashing into Brooklyn bridge.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 18, 2025 07:25 PM (63Dwl)

33 I would groan at Ben Had's post, but, secretly, I'm jealous I didn't make the joke first.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 18, 2025 07:25 PM (tT6L1)

34 Oh, look. A Glock tart
Posted by: Ben Had at May 18, 2025 07:24 PM

Shut it down, folks, we have a winner.

Posted by: The Woodpeckers at May 18, 2025 07:26 PM (Wnv9h)

35 31 Oh, look. A Glock tart

Posted by: Ben Had at May 18, 2025 07:24 PM

For the win!!!!!

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 18, 2025 07:26 PM (0XVad)

36 Damn it! Off, avian sock!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 18, 2025 07:26 PM (Wnv9h)

37 I saw a cartoon over at 'Shooting News Weekly'.

tinyurl.com/9khd8r3e

I was amused by it anyway. I'm easily amused. I have a .357 revolver and use .38 special ammo with it. I live in a condo, not a ranch. I figure that's enough to take care of a 'situation'.

Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by pew pew at May 18, 2025 07:27 PM (sAmhv)

38 No range report for me. Hit the golf range last weekend and started jury duty on Wednesday. Soooooooo boring.
Thursday we all reported at 9:30am and left at 4:30. Was only in the courtroom for maybe a half hour the entire day hearing the case. Really, really hope the case does not go past the expected 2 weeks. Otherwise a doctor's appointment and a certain trip to NH are in jeopardy.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 18, 2025 07:22 PM

Ugh. My jury duty is the week after NH.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 18, 2025 07:27 PM (Wnv9h)

39 36 Damn it! Off, avian sock!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 18, 2025 07:26 PM

This is what happens when one identifies as something else. ;-)

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 18, 2025 07:28 PM (0XVad)

40 32 Schumer blames Trump and DOGE "cuts" for Mexican ship crashing into Brooklyn bridge.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

LoL!! The Babylon Bee, those funny scamps!

Wait, that's The Babylon Bee, right?

Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by pew pew at May 18, 2025 07:29 PM (sAmhv)

41 This is what happens when one identifies as something else. ;-)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 18, 2025 07:28 PM (0XVad)
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So, are The Woodpeckers identifying as RMBS or the other way around?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 18, 2025 07:29 PM (tT6L1)

42 Wait, that's The Babylon Bee, right?

Who can tell any more.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 18, 2025 07:30 PM (/y8xj)

43 BLAM BLAM BLAM!!!
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 18, 2025 07:11 PM

Geez, lady, calm the fuck down!!
Posted by: The Woodpeckers at May 18, 2025 07:14 PM (Wnv9h)

Speaking of which, those damned woodpeckers are back at it again on my gutters.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 18, 2025 07:31 PM (W/lyH)

44 It was a training ship. They were training to run into the Brooklyn bridge.

Posted by: fd at May 18, 2025 07:32 PM (vFG9F)

45 Blake!

It’s fun to shoot with your kids, isn’t it?!?!

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 18, 2025 07:33 PM (mT+6a)

46 41 So, are The Woodpeckers identifying as RMBS or the other way around?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 18, 2025 07:29 PM

Your guess is as good as mine. I could see Nurse gunning for the Woodpecker though.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 18, 2025 07:33 PM (0XVad)

47 Range report: I finally got down to the farm this past week and was able to shoot my S&W 1854 Stealth Hunter for the first time. I fired about 150 rounds, mostly .357 Magnum but quite a few .38 Specials in several bullet weights and charges. I tried out the "iron" sights (fiber optic front and ghost ring rear) from 50 yards and was shooting two and a half inch groups consistently, which is not bad for these old eyes. The next day I mounted my little Vortex 1X4 scope, and after dialing it in hit just as well from 100 yards. 1 of 2

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at May 18, 2025 07:34 PM (Hdixl)

48 Seeing more people piling on about not liking the new army rifle choice in 6.8mm. Recoil, reliability, weight, etc. The M1 Garand is pretty stout in the recoil department with the metal buttplate, but nobody back then complained about recoil, not light either.

Back to the important observation, I used to love frosted pop tarts. Probably break down and get some in spite of how bad they are… thanks brother!

Posted by: Uncle Si at May 18, 2025 07:35 PM (n7IPv)

49 Prayers for the Mexican sailor young men.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 18, 2025 07:35 PM (gbOdA)

50 rhomboid,
Did you notice how Weasel brags about burning a stick on the deck but not one peep about brand, size, or taste?

Posted by: Diogenes at May 18, 2025 07:36 PM (W/lyH)

51 Nurse!

Yes it is.

If things work out, there's a chance I'll get to shoot with one of the grandsons also.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 18, 2025 07:36 PM (tT6L1)

52 2 of 2
Shooting the Stealth Hunter I fell in love with lever guns all over again. There is something really satisfying in cranking those rounds out with a smooth as butter action. There is virtually no recoil with .357 Magnum, even peppy loads, and it really makes the steel ring. I think this is the beginning of a beautiful relationship.

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at May 18, 2025 07:38 PM (Hdixl)

53 Oh, and Nurse, because I'm evil, I like to ask my daughter if either of the two oldest have a steady, is there marriage in the future with the chance of a great grand child.

For some reason, my youngest doesn't seem to fond of the idea of being a grandmother.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 18, 2025 07:39 PM (tT6L1)

54 Good Sunday evening, gub 'ettes and 'rons, and a special chainsaw-required greeting to our debris-festooned host Weasel.

Seriously, glad all the Weaselkin are OK. That's awful.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 18, 2025 07:39 PM (v23vE)

55 Prayers for the Mexican sailor young men.
Posted by: rhennigantx at May 18, 2025 07:35 PM (gbOdA)

Definitely.

Posted by: Pete Buttigege at May 18, 2025 07:40 PM (zZu0s)

56 That SOB, Van Owen the Stealth Hunter sounds a treat.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 18, 2025 07:40 PM (tT6L1)

57 Funny how little things creep in. Watching the IM movies, Cruise will fire 20 rounds and still never change clips..

John Wick always has an accurate shot count.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 18, 2025 07:41 PM (NVNRw)

58 John Wick always has an accurate shot count.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 18, 2025 07:41 PM (NVNRw)

The pitch meeting for John wick is still the best.

Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone at May 18, 2025 07:44 PM (zZu0s)

59 No fun trees falling, Weasel. Glad nobody hurt in this case.

Posted by: Eromero at May 18, 2025 07:44 PM (LHPAg)

60 hat SOB, Van Owen the Stealth Hunter sounds a treat.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 18, 2025 07:40 PM (tT6L1)

Yessir, money well spent, as far as I'm concerned!

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at May 18, 2025 07:45 PM (Hdixl)

61 Funny how little things creep in. Watching the IM movies, Cruise will fire 20 rounds and still never change clips..

John Wick always has an accurate shot count.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 18, 2025 07:41 PM (NVNRw)

I like how Clint Eastwood dual wields MP-40s in Where Eagles Dare to mow down what looks like an entire SS battalion, but only has to reload four or five times in the entire film.

Posted by: Ed L at May 18, 2025 07:45 PM (AiJK3)

62 Posted by: Diogenes at May 18, 2025 07:36 PM (W/lyH)
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Just my old standby, Factory Smokes!

Posted by: Weasel at May 18, 2025 07:45 PM (WfZMN)

63 FTSB: Biden diagnosed with 'aggressive form' of prostate cancer with metastasis to the bone [CBD]

Damn. I had ass-cancer in the pool.

Posted by: toby928 at May 18, 2025 07:47 PM (t0a+i)

64 Just my old standby, Factory Smokes!
Posted by: Weasel at May 18, 2025 07:45 PM (WfZMN)
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Cigar Slumming is a thing?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 18, 2025 07:48 PM (tT6L1)

65 Just my old standby, Factory Smokes!

Ahhh! Drew Estates. An excellent value for a good burn.
Except the sweets.
*shudders*

Posted by: Diogenes at May 18, 2025 07:49 PM (W/lyH)

66 Are those cigars like Kentucky Pride or Carltons for cigarettes?

Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone at May 18, 2025 07:50 PM (zZu0s)

67 44 It was a training ship. They were training to run into the Brooklyn bridge.
Posted by: fd at May 18, 2025 07:32 PM (vFG9F)

/OK, just a joke, but goin straight ta hell for this...

Female Coxswain, parallel Parking training?

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 18, 2025 07:51 PM (mP0Kj)

68 Swisher Sweets?

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 18, 2025 07:52 PM (mH6SG)

69 Female Coxswain, parallel Parking training?
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 18, 2025 07:51 PM (mP0Kj)

They were backing up...

Sidebar: backup cameras really make parallel parking about 1000x easier.

Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone at May 18, 2025 07:52 PM (zZu0s)

70 Swisher Sweets?
Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 18, 2025 07:52 PM (mH6SG)
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They made a good "after the joint" cover up smoke.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 18, 2025 07:53 PM (tT6L1)

71 Swisher Sweets?
Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 18, 2025 07:52 PM (mH6SG)

You will never...ever...see a cigar review from me about those vile sticks of nastiness.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 18, 2025 07:53 PM (W/lyH)

72 64 Just my old standby, Factory Smokes!
Posted by: Weasel at May 18, 2025 07:45 PM (WfZMN)
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Cigar Slumming is a thing?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 18, 2025 07:48 PM (tT6L1)

Just read more than one study saying that Smokers who got Covid, had less symptoms... and way less deaths... due to Nicotine...

Cigars are Healthy!

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 18, 2025 07:54 PM (mP0Kj)

73 This popped up in my Substack. You might enjoy his most recent post

The Writing Gunsmith

https://tinyurl.com/ycprwkfd

Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 18, 2025 07:55 PM (AcTAo)

74 69 Female Coxswain, parallel Parking training?
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 18, 2025 07:51 PM (mP0Kj)

They were backing up...

Sidebar: backup cameras really make parallel parking about 1000x easier.
Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone at May 18, 2025 07:52 PM (zZu0s)

Hmmm... last time I did parallel parkin... I seem to remember backing up...

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 18, 2025 07:55 PM (mP0Kj)

75 Glock Tarts are not legal in California unless they're on the List.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 18, 2025 07:55 PM (Kq6ZB)

76 63 FTSB: Biden diagnosed with 'aggressive form' of prostate cancer with metastasis to the bone [CBD]

Damn. I had ass-cancer in the pool.
Posted by: toby928
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Very close indeed.

Posted by: whig at May 18, 2025 07:56 PM (ctrM5)

77
You will never...ever...see a cigar review from me about those vile sticks of nastiness.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 18, 2025 07:53 PM (W/lyH)
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*proffers one million dollars for review of vile stick of nastiness*

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 18, 2025 07:56 PM (tT6L1)

78 Recommend Weasel Woman buy some lottery tickets.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 18, 2025 07:57 PM (9KYQs)

79 Weasel,
So glad you, WW and the furry family are OK. When we heard about what hit your area we were worried.

Posted by: JTB at May 18, 2025 07:57 PM (yTvNw)

80 Just read more than one study saying that Smokers who got Covid, had less symptoms... and way less deaths... due to Nicotine...

Cigars are Healthy!
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 18, 2025 07:54 PM (mP0Kj)

And when shared with a generous dram of whiskey, or whisky...I won't judge...said smokers have fewer colds, better sex lives, and will usually draw an inside straight three.out of four times.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 18, 2025 07:57 PM (W/lyH)

81 Best cigar I ever had was a box pressed variety that DBCOOPER sent to a MoMe.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 18, 2025 07:58 PM (NVNRw)

82 Just saw a picture of the guy that blew up the IVF clinic in Florida.
The very example of a soy boy.
With that said, he sure knew how to make a bomb.
Posted by: Erebus- Ex Killer Whale at May 18, 2025 07:17 PM (elaR+)

I thought Palm Springs was in California?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 18, 2025 08:00 PM (9KYQs)

83 You will never...ever...see a cigar review from me about those vile sticks of nastiness.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 18, 2025 07:53 PM

How would you know they're nasty, unless you've reviewed one?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 18, 2025 08:01 PM (Kq6ZB)

84 I saw Vile Sticks of Nastiness open for Big Penguin at The Fillmore in 1969.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 18, 2025 08:03 PM (Kq6ZB)

85 Last summer, White House Physician Dr. Kevin O’Connor swore to the American people that Joe Biden was “completely fit for the Presidency” — no issues, nothing to see.

Does anyone have a spare guillotine?

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 18, 2025 08:03 PM (gbOdA)

86 Question for the cigar aficionados: Are there cigars which have been soaked in liquor then dried? If so, is it a gimmick or does it materially affect the flavor and in a good way?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 18, 2025 08:03 PM (tT6L1)

87 84 I saw Vile Sticks of Nastiness open for Big Penguin at The Fillmore in 1969.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 18, 2025 08:03 PM (Kq6ZB)

Penguins and Native Aleutians score the same on oral IQ Test.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 18, 2025 08:04 PM (gbOdA)

88 *proffers one million dollars for review of vile stick of nastiness*
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 18, 2025 07:56 PM (tT6L1)

Burns hot. Like the heat of self-loathing. Bitterness on the palate matches that in your heart as you contemplate the poor life choices that now limit your cigar choices to this stale dog rocket...

I accept Venmo...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at May 18, 2025 08:06 PM (bA75n)

89 I thought Palm Springs was in California?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 18, 2025 08:00 PM (9KYQs)

I've never been sure if Palm Springs was in Florida.

I thought it probably was but I was never sure it wasn't in California.

Posted by: 85 Bears at May 18, 2025 08:07 PM (r2ymA)

90 48 Seeing more people piling on about not liking the new army rifle choice in 6.8mm. Recoil, reliability, weight, etc. The M1 Garand is pretty stout in the recoil department with the metal buttplate, but nobody back then complained about recoil, not light either.

Back to the important observation, I used to love frosted pop tarts. Probably break down and get some in spite of how bad they are… thanks brother!
Posted by: Uncle Si
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According to a recent official report by a Marine Captain, https://tinyurl.com/369w8hh5, there are serious problems with the XM-7 project.

Simply put, by the time you have it fully tricked out with scope, mounts, etc., it comes in somewhere around 13-14 lbs. Lot of parts breakage and wear of key components as in bolts, extractors, etc. due to the extremely high pressure of the round at the 1000-2000 round mark plus damaging the absolutely necessary suppressors (noise level from these rifles is off the charts due in part to high pressure and short 16 inch barrels).

Basically, the military started with the requirements they wanted and worked backward--to penetrate Chinese body armor at extreme distances.

Posted by: whig at May 18, 2025 08:07 PM (ctrM5)

91 Joe Kidd , no telling what the second drag would do.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 18, 2025 08:08 PM (NVNRw)

92 Shooting the Stealth Hunter I fell in love with lever guns all over again. There is something really satisfying in cranking those rounds out with a smooth as butter action. There is virtually no recoil with .357 Magnum, even peppy loads, and it really makes the steel ring. I think this is the beginning of a beautiful relationship.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen

Should be getting more than 1000 ft lbs out of a long barrel.
Vihtavuori has load data for 357 at that. Doesn't say what barrel length so I assume it must be for long guns.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 18, 2025 08:08 PM (/lPRQ)

93 Maybe Joe likes the finger!

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 18, 2025 08:09 PM (gbOdA)

94 How would you know they're nasty, unless you've reviewed one?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 18, 2025 08:01 PM (Kq6ZB)

Well...I am nearly forced to use the Way Back machine here, but I recall my senior year of college and my new bride and I were enjoying a potluck dinner with friends. Good food, hot buttered rums, and some cheap-assed wine were involved. And then some fool (pretty sure he was Air Force ROTC) pulled out a box of Swisher Sweets. The next morning, the new Mrs D gave me my first lecture about partying and coming home only to spend the night in the bathroom.
So yeah. Nasty vile sticks of doom.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 18, 2025 08:09 PM (W/lyH)

95 Funny how little things creep in. Watching the IM movies, Cruise will fire 20 rounds and still never change clips..

John Wick always has an accurate shot count.
Posted by: Ben Had
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Cruise was a movie.
Wick was filmed live.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 18, 2025 08:09 PM (/lPRQ)

96 Good evening Horde. Thanks Weasel. Glad neither WW or Casa Weasel got a direct hit.

No range time here. Family matters still taking priority. Looking forward the NoVa MoMe.

Posted by: TRex at May 18, 2025 08:10 PM (IQ6Gq)

97 but nobody back then complained about recoil, not light either.
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Carried one for a couple of years. Struggling to recall if it was 9.6 lbs., or, 9 lbs. 6 oz.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 18, 2025 08:11 PM (XeU6L)

98 I like how Clint Eastwood dual wields MP-40s in Where Eagles Dare to mow down what looks like an entire SS battalion, but only has to reload four or five times in the entire film.
Posted by: Ed L
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At least you see him change magazines occasionally.

Lots of folks drool over full auto fire but other than suppressive fire or something like pointman in scouting out or raiding the enemy, you simply turn a lot of ammo into noise in a hurry.

Useful for machines guns,less so as you drop down to individual weapons especially if you do not have the logistics of the US Army supporting you.

Posted by: whig at May 18, 2025 08:12 PM (ctrM5)

99 Funny how little things creep in. Watching the IM movies, Cruise will fire 20 rounds and still never change clips..

John Wick always has an accurate shot count.
Posted by: Ben Had

I still luv some of the old Westerns... Hopalong Cassidy days... when they would have their Six shooter pointed up, quickly bring it down and shoot, and the recoil would put it back up.... Like they were flinging bullets out the barrels...

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 18, 2025 08:13 PM (mP0Kj)

100 100!

Posted by: TRex at May 18, 2025 08:13 PM (IQ6Gq)

101 Still got it...

Posted by: TRex at May 18, 2025 08:13 PM (IQ6Gq)

102 hot buttered rums, and some cheap-assed wine were involved. And then some fool (pretty sure he was Air Force ROTC) pulled out a box of Swisher Sweets. The next morning, the new Mrs D gave me my first lecture about partying and coming home only to spend the night in the bathroom.
So yeah. Nasty vile sticks of doom.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 18, 2025 08:09 PM

Sounds like the SSNVSoDs may be shouldering the blame for other actors.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 18, 2025 08:14 PM (Kq6ZB)

103 Swisher Sweets?
Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 18, 2025 07:52 PM (mH6SG)
+++
You will never...ever...see a cigar review from me about those vile sticks of nastiness.
Posted by: Diogenes
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One of the YouTube channels was blind cigar reviews with (I think) four reviewers. They get quite in depth on all the nuancey goodness / bad of the cigars they review, rate them, and then get the big reveal.

One time they were gushing over Ron Mexican* cigars.

The pretense oozed. They loved them. They gotz puked.

* They are not even Mexican!
Te Amo. That is a fine Mexican cigar.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 18, 2025 08:15 PM (/lPRQ)

104 you simply turn a lot of ammo into noise in a hurry.

Useful for machines guns,less so as you drop down to individual weapons especially if you do not have the logistics of the US Army supporting you.
Posted by: whig at May 18, 2025 08:12 PM

Shut you mouf', yo!

Posted by: Glock 'switches' in Chicago at May 18, 2025 08:17 PM (Kq6ZB)

105 Factory Smokes aren't cheap cigars! They cost $2 each!

Posted by: Weasel at May 18, 2025 08:17 PM (jH5TK)

106 There is virtually no recoil with .357 Magnum, even peppy loads, and it really makes the steel ring. I think this is the beginning of a beautiful relationship.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen
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357 is a whole nother beast in a long gun compared with something shorter than a 6-8 inch revolver. You get outlandish gains from the shorter barrel handguns to even a 16 inch barrel. Don't even see that velocity pickup with the 44 Magnum.

Most handgun rounds get about 200 fps or so from a longer barrel like the 9mm, 40 S&W, 44 Magnum, etc. 357 Magnum gets outsized velocity gains from 300-600 fps going from a handgun to a rifle barrel length.

Posted by: whig at May 18, 2025 08:17 PM (ctrM5)

107 Jury duty. Huh.
We don’t do no jury duty in NNH.

Posted by: RI Red at May 18, 2025 08:17 PM (/gl0q)

108 Just got some Frontier's Bear Paws patch lube. It has an unusually high amount of bear oil in the mix. Bear oil was considered the best of the lubes in colonial times and any bear fat from a hunt was valuable stuff both for patches, rust protection and locks. Haven't had a chance to try it yet but people who have like it and these are folks persnickety about such matters. I'll report when I can.

If it works as well as people say, I'll use my current lube, based on a mid-1800s formula, as a bullet lube for black powder cartridges and save the new stuff for the flintlocks.

Posted by: JTB at May 18, 2025 08:18 PM (yTvNw)

109 Simply put, by the time you have it fully tricked out with scope, mounts, etc., it comes in somewhere around 13-14 lbs. Lot of parts breakage and wear of key components as in bolts, extractors, etc. due to the extremely high pressure of the round at the 1000-2000 round mark plus damaging the absolutely necessary suppressors (noise level from these rifles is off the charts due in part to high pressure and short 16 inch barrels).

Basically, the military started with the requirements they wanted and worked backward--to penetrate Chinese body armor at extreme distances.
Posted by: whig at May 18, 2025 08:07 PM (ctrM5)

Although it's 15+ years old now, the US Army's "Taking Back The Infantry Half Kilometer" paper written by a CGSC student is still relevant in that it discusses the tradeoffs between a more powerful, but heavier cartridge (and the rifle to fire it) vs. the current intermediate power, but lighter cartridge and the M16/M4 series rifles chambered for 5.56mm NATO. Given the inevitable teething troubles this platform (and its ammo) will have, I expect the M16/M4 rifles to hang in there for some time yet. That assumes the XM7 will eventually get adopted for service.

Posted by: Ed L at May 18, 2025 08:18 PM (AiJK3)

110 I’m glad you are all safe after the storm. Those old big trees are sure beautiful but they are extremely dangerous during storms.

Posted by: Rancherbob at May 18, 2025 08:19 PM (uqKJX)

111 I was misled from an early age because my cap gun revolver had at least 20 caps on a roll.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 18, 2025 08:19 PM (NVNRw)

112 Mrs D gave me my first lecture about partying and coming home only to spend the night in the bathroom.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 18, 2025 08:09 PM

* reviewing the archives for the second and subsequent lectures *

Posted by: Bob from NSA at May 18, 2025 08:20 PM (Kq6ZB)

113 Good evening all
Weasel so glad House undamaged but sooo much yard work. Glad everyone is okay.
I have no range report. I am very sad about that. I really really want to start to figure out the vision thing. Hopefully the long weekend will yield a time when the MGC can get together.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 18, 2025 08:20 PM (t/2Uw)

114 Shut you mouf', yo!
Posted by: Glock 'switches'

Unfortunately, gangbangers are using glock switches like suppressive fire--only problem is that a lot of bullets end up in civilians due to indiscriminate firing.

Also why I upgraded to an AR15 for home defense as you want to put a critter down quickly and authoritatively if they have a glock switched firearm while doing a home invasion. LEO reports are now finding gang critters doing just that on their home invasion parties.

Posted by: whig at May 18, 2025 08:20 PM (ctrM5)

115 It'll be 14 years in August since I actually smoked a cigarette.

I still want one. Camel Wides. Mmmmm.

Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone at May 18, 2025 08:20 PM (WZo4a)

116 Posted by: Rancherbob at May 18, 2025 08:19 PM (uqKJX)
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Thanks Amigo!

Posted by: Weasel at May 18, 2025 08:21 PM (jH5TK)

117 Speaking of things that go BOOM,

It was 45 years ago today that Mt St Helens erupted.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 18, 2025 08:21 PM (mT+6a)

118 That assumes the XM7 will eventually get adopted for service.
Posted by: Ed L at May 18, 2025 08:18 PM (AiJK3)
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I honestly don't believe it's possible to engineer the rifle strong enough to take the pressure of the round and have it remain a viable field weapon.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 18, 2025 08:22 PM (tT6L1)

119 Write me a 1000 word treatise on Ethan MI IX.

His gun went pew pew pew pew...

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 18, 2025 08:22 PM (gbOdA)

120 It was 45 years ago today that Mt St Helens erupted.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 18, 2025 08:21 PM (mT+6a)

30 years on San Diego tank

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 18, 2025 08:23 PM (gbOdA)

121 Should be getting more than 1000 ft lbs out of a long barrel.
Vihtavuori has load data for 357 at that. Doesn't say what barrel length so I assume it must be for long guns.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 18, 2025 08:08 PM (/lPRQ)

I should have said "virtually no FELT recoil." But it is very mild, nonetheless.

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at May 18, 2025 08:24 PM (Hdixl)

122 * reviewing the archives for the second and subsequent lectures *
Posted by: Bob from NSA at May 18, 2025 08:20 PM (Kq6ZB)

Ahhh...
You may need extra storage on your drive for that.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 18, 2025 08:25 PM (W/lyH)

123 Welp, time to wander. Chocolate cake calls.

Later!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 18, 2025 08:26 PM (tT6L1)

124 I thought Palm Springs was in California?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

My bad.
Had Florida on the brain.

Posted by: Erebus- Ex Killer Whale at May 18, 2025 08:28 PM (elaR+)

125 That assumes the XM7 will eventually get adopted for service.
Posted by: Ed L at May 18, 2025 08:18 PM (AiJK3)

Just looked at some pixs of the rifle. Not seeing where the bayonet goes.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 18, 2025 08:28 PM (W/lyH)

126 That assumes the XM7 will eventually get adopted for service.
Posted by: Ed L

The 52 page report upthread I linked to indicates some pretty serious issues with it. Basically parts wear and breakage of major components is simply unacceptable at the 1000-2000 round level. Pretty bad barrel erosion too.

Not really something that can be fixed because high pressure from 60-70 kpsi and up breaks guns even bolt actions when firing the amount of rounds necessary in a war with no chance for field armorers to fix them up.

And this is one of the problems that our military faces--we have no integrative strategy driving what weapons we buy and thus each branch simply is looking for the latest great thing out of sync with each other. Heck, we cannot even agree on replacing key Cold War era aircraft like the A-10 and the idiotic emphasis of the F-35 being everything to all services meant simply a repeat of the F-4 Phantom debacle.

If anything, the military should be reequipping units with mag fed shotguns due to drones killing so many in Russia v. UKR. A 6.8 XM-7 is practically useless for that sort of warfare.

Posted by: whig at May 18, 2025 08:28 PM (ctrM5)

127 The Army and Air Force have both adopted variations of the SIG 320 as the M17 and M18. Knowing soldiers and airmen, if there was something inherently unsafe about the weapon, there would be legions of crippled servicemen hobbling about on crutches.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 18, 2025 08:28 PM (1FDFf)

128 Just looked at some pixs of the rifle. Not seeing where the bayonet goes.
Posted by: Diogenes
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You get a suppressor instead. You can simply shove the hot bloody thing at the enemy and set their uniform on fire plus causing severe burns to any flesh it encounters.

Posted by: whig at May 18, 2025 08:29 PM (ctrM5)

129 Also why I upgraded to an AR15 for home defense as you want to put a critter down quickly and authoritatively if they have a glock switched firearm while doing a home invasion. LEO reports are now finding gang critters doing just that on their home invasion parties.
Posted by: whig at May 18, 2025 08:20 PM (ctrM5)

AR15 is obviously the best home defense weapon. One at your bedside with a shortened stock and 30 rounds.

Posted by: 85 Bears at May 18, 2025 08:31 PM (r2ymA)

130 Useful for machines guns,less so as you drop down to individual weapons especially if you do not have the logistics of the US Army supporting you.
Posted by: whig at May 18, 2025 08:12 PM (ctrM5)

The USMC/Army put the hated 3-round burst device into the M16A2 and M4 to limit ammo expenditure. But the M4A1 brought back full auto fire.

LTG (retired) Hal Moore, CO of 1/7 Cav at Ia Drang, said that if his battalion had carried M14's instead of M16s (XM16E1s), the NVA would have overrun and wiped out his entire force. So there's a place for rock and roll in rifles, but well trained troops are required to get the most out of it in combat (and not blast off all their ammo in the first minutes of contact).

Posted by: Ed L at May 18, 2025 08:31 PM (AiJK3)

131 127 The Army and Air Force have both adopted variations of the SIG 320 as the M17 and M18. Knowing soldiers and airmen, if there was something inherently unsafe about the weapon, there would be legions of crippled servicemen hobbling about on crutches.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy
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Firearms are only as safe as the person's brain behind the trigger.

Posted by: whig at May 18, 2025 08:31 PM (ctrM5)

132
Watching the Mets-Yankees game, with the sound muted to avoid the ESPN Wall of Talk. We have in the stadium not just one but two groups of asshole New York fans.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 18, 2025 08:31 PM (QnmlO)

133 What is the over/under rifle that fires a bullet but also a small mortar round?

Posted by: Ben Had at May 18, 2025 08:31 PM (NVNRw)

134 Did Biden have a prostate test a year ago?

Posted by: Goatweed at May 18, 2025 08:32 PM (cl9qq)

135 Thankful Weasel and all relations are safe after that rather exciting weather event.

Did you finish the cigar? And what kind was it?

(demo'ing my lack of social skills here)

Posted by: rhomboid at May 18, 2025 08:32 PM (1m82a)

136 92 ... "Shooting the Stealth Hunter I fell in love with lever guns all over again. There is something really satisfying in cranking those rounds out with a smooth as butter action."

Lever actions with pistol cartridges are great. I can load hotter rounds without worrying about recoil and get all the possibilities out of a cartridge. (I feel recoil more these days.) 38/357, 44 mag, and 45 Colt cartridges take on a new dimension. I'll save the lighter loads for my revolvers.

Posted by: JTB at May 18, 2025 08:33 PM (yTvNw)

137 If anything, the military should be reequipping units with mag fed shotguns due to drones killing so many in Russia v. UKR. A 6.8 XM-7 is practically useless for that sort of warfare.
Posted by: whig at May 18, 2025 08:28 PM (ctrM5)

They are still in one war mode. It is odd that they can be both profligate and cost conscious at the same time.

Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone at May 18, 2025 08:33 PM (WZo4a)

138 What is the over/under rifle that fires a bullet but also a small mortar round?
Posted by: Ben Had at May 18, 2025 08:31 PM (NVNRw)

You might be thinking about the M203. M16 rifle with a grenade launcher mounted under the rifle barrel.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 18, 2025 08:35 PM (1FDFf)

139 134 Did Biden have a prostate test a year ago?
Posted by: Goatweed at May 18, 2025 08:32 PM (cl9qq)

There is vid from 2022

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 18, 2025 08:35 PM (gbOdA)

140 There is vid from 2022
Posted by: rhennigantx at May 18, 2025 08:35 PM (gbOdA)

Thank you for that mental image.

Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone at May 18, 2025 08:36 PM (WZo4a)

141 You get a suppressor instead. You can simply shove the hot bloody thing at the enemy and set their uniform on fire plus causing severe burns to any flesh it encounters.
Posted by: whig at May 18, 2025 08:29 PM (ctrM5)

When I was a cadet, during bayonet training I got my ass kicked by a dude who was, I am sure, a stunt double for King Kong. I vowed then and there that my soldiers would know how to fight with bayonets. It doesn't happen often anymore, but when needed, it is frightening.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 18, 2025 08:36 PM (W/lyH)

142 Also why I upgraded to an AR15 for home defense as you want to put a critter down quickly and authoritatively if they have a glock switched firearm while doing a home invasion. LEO reports are now finding gang critters doing just that on their home invasion parties.
Posted by: whig

Agreed.
60 rd magazine or drum.
A good light and/or motion activated red dot and you're set.

Posted by: Erebus- Ex Killer Whale at May 18, 2025 08:36 PM (elaR+)

143 Idaho Spudboy, thank you.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 18, 2025 08:36 PM (NVNRw)

144 Did you finish the cigar? And what kind was it?

(demo'ing my lack of social skills here)
Posted by: rhomboid at May 18, 2025 08:32 PM (1m82a)

rhomboid, see my #50.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 18, 2025 08:38 PM (W/lyH)

145 LTG (retired) Hal Moore, CO of 1/7 Cav at Ia Drang, said that if his battalion had carried M14's instead of M16s (XM16E1s), the NVA would have overrun and wiped out his entire force. So there's a place for rock and roll in rifles, but well trained troops are required to get the most out of it in combat (and not blast off all their ammo in the first minutes of contact).
Posted by: Ed L
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M-14's were a kludge because Springfield Armory (Govt, not company) had a not invented here mindset ignoring the superior FAL or AR10. Simply following what Beretta did with Garands (the BM-59) would have been a helluva lot simpler and cheaper.

The M-14s on full auto were simply too light for the power of the cartridge to fire accurately even with a tripod under full auto. Springfield Armory came out with the absurd claim and justification that the M-14 could replace the BAR, Semi Machine Guns, and the Garand all at once. Which it failed in two out of three cases.

Regarding full auto hosing down of hordes of advancing troops in the absence of good light or heavy machine guns, the AR was far easier to hold and fire as you noted at Ia Drang.

Posted by: whig at May 18, 2025 08:38 PM (ctrM5)

146 When I was a cadet, during bayonet training I got my ass kicked by a dude who was, I am sure, a stunt double for King Kong. I vowed then and there that my soldiers would know how to fight with bayonets. It doesn't happen often anymore, but when needed, it is frightening.
Posted by: Diogenes
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I think the last substantiated unit charge with bayonets was at Basra in the First Gulf War by a British unit.

Posted by: whig at May 18, 2025 08:40 PM (ctrM5)

147 Whig, Blake, I agree with you that the Army is asking way too much of the XM7. The new ammo alone is a big red flag. And the rifle (plus its basic load) is far too little based on the experience of infantry fighting at COP Wanat in Afghanistan and what I've seen of infantry combat in Ukraine. If more reach and hitting power is needed, the solution suggested in "Taking Back The Infantry Half Kilometer" still sounds good to me. Field multiple upper receivers for each lower. USMC Recon units do this now, with "shorty" barrel fitted uppers for each M27 assigned. That allows unit commanders to tailor troop load out based on the mission at hand.

Posted by: Ed L at May 18, 2025 08:40 PM (AiJK3)

148 I want to see them scraping the blood off the ice.
Oh, yeah, there it is! Like a fish mongers!

Posted by: Accomack at May 18, 2025 08:41 PM (YVT+g)

149 Holy cow, Weasel. Those pictures are terrifying. Thanks be to God that Mrs. Weasel is ok, and that the driver of the white car is ok too. How terrifying that must have been.

Posted by: bluebell at May 18, 2025 08:41 PM (79pEw)

150 In the late 60s, early 70s, M14s were still the TO weapon for non infantry USMC units stateside. None had selector switches.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 18, 2025 08:42 PM (gm9Sb)

151 Thank you for that mental image.
Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone at May 18, 2025 08:36 PM (WZo4a)

glove snaps

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 18, 2025 08:42 PM (gbOdA)

152 What is the over/under rifle that fires a bullet but also a small mortar round?
Posted by: Ben Had at May 18, 2025 08:31 PM (NVNRw)

You might be thinking about the M203. M16 rifle with a grenade launcher mounted under the rifle barrel.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 18, 2025 08:35 PM (1FDFf)

Or the experimental XM-8/XM-25 rifle/GL combo the Army toyed with in the early 2000's, most famously seen wielded by the bad guy against 007 in the opening action sequence of "Die Another Day."

Posted by: Ed L at May 18, 2025 08:44 PM (AiJK3)

153 Did Biden have a prostate test a year ago?
Posted by: Goatweed at May 18, 2025 08:32 PM (cl9qq)

I'd suspect that Dr. Jill tightly controlled access to Old Joe. Even if this cancer is real, it probably started a few years ago, and the bubble that Biden was kept in kept it from being detected until now.

Posted by: 85 Bears at May 18, 2025 08:44 PM (r2ymA)

154 Agreed.
60 rd magazine or drum.
A good light and/or motion activated red dot and you're set.
Posted by: Erebus
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I know my 20's and 30's will work, not sure about drums or oversized mags. Self defense with no backup, reliability is foremost in my mind.

It is more that 5.56 at short range such as inside a house has an excellent record and using the 55 grain boattail hollowpoints, has a superior reduction in the risk of overpenetration which still keeping stopping power up. The same cannot be said for shotguns (absent the poorly advised birdshot) with slugs or buckshots, or even 9mm/45 ACP pistol carbines.

The shorter and lighter 55 gr. bullets tend to keyhole when hitting a semi solid target like flesh (aka going into the target sideways). The old Mark VII .303 cartridge had the same going for it which increased its lethality quite a bit in fmj bullets. It tended to go into the target ass over teakettle when the lighter tip hit the target and levered the base of the bullet into the target.

Posted by: whig at May 18, 2025 08:47 PM (ctrM5)

155 Posted by: bluebell at May 18, 2025 08:41 PM (79pEw)
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Thank you! When i heard the BOOM I scampered down the hill and she was getting out of the car. A little shaken but otherwise ok. She wandered by today as I was cleaning up the fence line and we chatted for a bit. A few bumps and bruises, but that's it. WW was a little freaked out when she got home moments later and saw what had happened just behind her!

Posted by: Weasel at May 18, 2025 08:47 PM (fJiXH)

156 Biden might have been dead since Jul 2024.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 18, 2025 08:48 PM (gbOdA)

157 Question for the cigar aficionados: Are there cigars which have been soaked in liquor then dried? If so, is it a gimmick or does it materially affect the flavor and in a good way?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing

Wrapper on Puro Ambar is soaked in wine and dried.
Didn't go over so well. They don't make them anymore and I got a bunch at less than $2 / ea.
Has a bit of a bitter taste. Bitter is bad in a cigar. But I kind of like these so I got a bunch because it's different.
Like a bitter melon.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 18, 2025 08:48 PM (/lPRQ)

158 I'd suspect that Dr. Jill tightly controlled access to Old Joe. Even if this cancer is real, it probably started a few years ago, and the bubble that Biden was kept in kept it from being detected until now.
Posted by: 85 Bears at May 18, 2025 08:44 PM

Joe himself slipped and said he had cancer in 2022 (of course, Joe says lots of things), and Frank(?) Biden said in June, 2024 that Joe had a fatal condition.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 18, 2025 08:50 PM (0sNs1)

159 They are still in one war mode. It is odd that they can be both profligate and cost conscious at the same time.
Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone
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When trying to be the world's policeman, it means that our strategic planning is all at once, everywhere. At least the older Cold War paradigm meant focusing on Soviets in Europe rather than fighting everything from brush wars to peer level adversaries from the savannahs, deserts, and plains, into the mountains. That means asking weapons to effectively be master of all trades which means insufficient normally in each theater compared with weapons for that.

Posted by: whig at May 18, 2025 08:50 PM (ctrM5)

160 Thank you! When i heard the BOOM I scampered down the hill and she was getting out of the car. A little shaken but otherwise ok. She wandered by today as I was cleaning up the fence line and we chatted for a bit. A few bumps and bruises, but that's it. WW was a little freaked out when she got home moments later and saw what had happened just behind her!
Posted by: Weasel at May 18, 2025 08:47 PM (fJiXH)

How terrifying! Glad you were there to help her.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 18, 2025 08:51 PM (v23vE)

161 I still luv some of the old Westerns... Hopalong Cassidy days... when they would have their Six shooter pointed up, quickly bring it down and shoot, and the recoil would put it back up.... Like they were flinging bullets out the barrels...
Posted by: Romeo13

Cap and ball, there was a reason for that. You cocked the gun upright to expel the spent cap. Sometimes they like to jamb things up.

Posted by: MkY at May 18, 2025 08:51 PM (cPGH3)

162 Whig, what do you think about a suppressor on a home defense AR? I picked up an H&K MR556A4 with an 11" barrel with an Aimpoint RDS. It should do well in a similar role. But the muzzle blast and muzzle flash out of that 11" barrel are quite impressive. A suppressor would appear to be necessary to keep the noise and muzzle flash below the deafening and blinding thresholds.

Posted by: Ed L at May 18, 2025 08:51 PM (AiJK3)

163 I think the last substantiated unit charge with bayonets was at Basra in the First Gulf War by a British unit.
Posted by: whig at May 18, 2025 08:40 PM (ctrM5)

The Battle of Danny Boy? May 14, 2004 near Amarah.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 18, 2025 08:51 PM (W/lyH)

164 150 In the late 60s, early 70s, M14s were still the TO weapon for non infantry USMC units stateside. None had selector switches.
Posted by: bill in arkansas

The Marine Captain's report I linked upstream has an excellent historical view of firearms from the 1903 Springfield until and including the current XM-7. He mentioned that 90 percent of all M14s had been converted back to semi auto only.

Posted by: whig at May 18, 2025 08:52 PM (ctrM5)

165 Range time was last week. Thanks as always, Weasel. Especially since you got hit so hard in that storm. Got hit with it here a few hours after you and it was pretty intense. Very glad to hear that the Missus was okay.
Good evening everyone and have a great week!

Posted by: Coelacanth at May 18, 2025 08:56 PM (3Dcbq)

166 Hullo morons!

I FINALLY won a Gunbroker 'gunbuster' parts kit for a G26, to go along with my G26 frame. The recoil spring was busted AF but I had a spare already and that worked.

And I'm getting really good groups and finding it controllable and reliable at 7 yards. Sadly the Magtech ammo is not reliable, the 147 grn JHP is getting light primer strikes, but the CCI and Lawman ammo has been 100% so far.

If you haven't tried a G26....it's pretty good. Especially with a G19 or G17 magazine. The 12 round Magpul Pmags mags have been good too.

Only 100 rounds in but the OEM slide has been better and more accurate than the aftermarket slide I bought by mistake.

On the whole, buy a new G26 instead of buying it piece by piece like I did. It'll be cheaper in the long run.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at May 18, 2025 08:57 PM (xcxpd)

167 162 Whig, what do you think about a suppressor on a home defense AR? I picked up an H&K MR556A4 with an 11" barrel with an Aimpoint RDS. It should do well in a similar role. But the muzzle blast and muzzle flash out of that 11" barrel are quite impressive. A suppressor would appear to be necessary to keep the noise and muzzle flash below the deafening and blinding thresholds.
Posted by: Ed L

Absolutely a suppressor is needed for any home defense weapon but certainly for a short barrel AR. I have an AR pistol that I built for the hell of it and it has an 11.5 inch barrel with a carbine length gas system and adjustable gas key to alter the amount of gas thrown into the receiver. Blast is pretty bad at the indoor ranges despite using a forward compensator to throw a lot of that downrange.

If I wanted to go to another platform, the 300 BO is much better behaved (or even the 6.8 SPC/6.5 Grendel) in short barrel lengths. The velocity of the 5.56 gas is what does it--gas coming out hot at 2700-3000 fps is like a sandblaster to suppressors in on SBRs.

Posted by: whig at May 18, 2025 08:58 PM (ctrM5)

168 Weasel, my grandmother would have said "you all must live right" in order to have escaped that catastrophe. I hope all the exciting times are over and you have a boring few weeks until the NoVaMoMe.

Posted by: bluebell at May 18, 2025 08:58 PM (79pEw)

169 We had M-14s shipboard on my destroyer in the 1970's . Excellent weapon IMO.

Posted by: Archer at May 18, 2025 08:58 PM (IDphi)

170 Biden might have been dead since Jul 2024.
Posted by: rhennigantx at May 18, 2025 08:48 PM (gbOdA)

There are even some reports that Biden died sometime in 2022.
And that an actor/deep-fake AI body double impersonated him for the last two years of his "Presidency."

Posted by: 85 Bears at May 18, 2025 08:58 PM (r2ymA)

171 Posted by: bluebell at May 18, 2025 08:58 PM (79pEw)
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Me too!

Posted by: Weasel at May 18, 2025 09:01 PM (EABvN)

172 I had the opportunity *mumblety* years ago to fam fire a full-auto M-14. On a man-size target at 50 yards, standing, aiming at the knee, the first round hit the knee, the second the chest, the third went over the head, and the fourth went wherever it went having launched at a 30 or more degree angle.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 18, 2025 09:01 PM (0sNs1)

173 Good evening gubthreaders and all the ships at sea!

Sorry I'm late. Did I miss anything?

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at May 18, 2025 09:02 PM (QfvaV)

174 I think the last substantiated unit charge with bayonets was at Basra in the First Gulf War by a British unit.
Posted by: whig at May 18, 2025 08:40 PM (ctrM5)

Second Gulf War had some house to house engagements with bayonets and with hatchets. Scared the hell out of the Haji, having a bunch of Army types show up to clear out a house with hatchets.

(CC: Terrence Popp)

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at May 18, 2025 09:02 PM (xcxpd)

175 I thought this short YT about this Russki revolver was interesting although I don't understand how it's supposed to work.

https://shorturl.at/aYK1c

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now For a Limited Time Only! at May 18, 2025 09:02 PM (L/fGl)

176 Range time is planned for next week. I try to go once or twice every month.

Posted by: Archer at May 18, 2025 09:03 PM (IDphi)

177 blake, about your cigar question. Actually soaking a cigar in liquor is not common, and as noted in the response from Itinerant Alley Butcher, often doesn't really turn out well.

Much more common, and often quite good, is infusing the tobacco (usually the wrapper leaf) but not immersing or soaking it. Ex-bourbon barrels are good for this. A few months ago I reviewed one of Perdomo's bourbon-barrel aged cigars - really good.

At the moment I'm waiting to review a Diesel stick that was infused in sherry casks. First one was not good, I'm hoping that a few weeks of rest in the tupperdor will help (often does).

Posted by: rhomboid at May 18, 2025 09:03 PM (1m82a)

178 Sorry I'm late. Did I miss anything?

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at May 18, 2025 09:02 PM

Diogenes is going to be reviewing Swisher Sweets for us.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 18, 2025 09:04 PM (0sNs1)

179
Grover Cleveland's jaw cancer.
Woodrow Wilson's stroke.
FDR's heart.
Biden's dementia and prostate.

The Democrats are the party of the cover-up.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 18, 2025 09:04 PM (QnmlO)

180 178 Sorry I'm late. Did I miss anything?

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at May 18, 2025 09:02 PM

Diogenes is going to be reviewing Swisher Sweets for us.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 18, 2025 09:04 PM (0sNs1)

We had a Swisher at the PNW MoMe....

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at May 18, 2025 09:05 PM (xcxpd)

181 The Battle of Danny Boy? May 14, 2004 near Amarah.
Posted by: Diogenes
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Looking it up, you'd be right. Second Gulf War.
Small Arms Defense Journal reports it as Basra in the bold print but later says something about 55 miles from the city.

"Bayonets in Basra – A Case Study on the Effects of Irregular Warfare
This report is a brief case study on the tactical success of a bayonet charge in Basra, Iraq in May 2004 by British soldiers. As a case study, the findings are not intended to automatically apply to other situations in different locations. Nonetheless, this incident marks a helpful contribution to the larger study of irregular warfare.
. . .
Overview of Bayonet Charge
On 21 May 2004, Mahdi militiamen engaged a convoy consisting of approximately 20 British troops from the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders 55 miles north of Basra. "

I simply remembered Basra and Gulf War and my mind must have inserted the First instead of the Second. My mistake.

Posted by: whig at May 18, 2025 09:05 PM (ctrM5)

182 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at May 18, 2025 09:05 PM (xcxpd)
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You guys let me know when that will be next year!

Posted by: Weasel at May 18, 2025 09:06 PM (EABvN)

183 Punching out for the night.

As always, thanks for a great Gub Thread, Weasel. See y'all in the Morning Report.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 18, 2025 09:07 PM (Wnv9h)

184 I thought this short YT about this Russki revolver was interesting although I don't understand how it's supposed to work.

https://shorturl.at/aYK1c
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now For a Limited Time Only! at May 18, 2025 09:02 PM (L/fGl)

I can't see why having a piston behind the slug makes it silent. "Might" eliminate the blast from the barrel-cylinder gap, but once the slug leaves the muzzle, there will be a blast of gas following.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 18, 2025 09:07 PM (gcq9l)

185 Posted by: whig at May 18, 2025 08:58 PM (ctrM5)

The H&K MR556A4 has a short stroke gas piston system instead of a gas tube to operate the bolt carrier. So it should (theoretically) have a lot less gas coming back at you when the rifle is fitted with a suppressor. Unlike earlier versions, the A4 comes with an adjustable gas block to better accommodate suppressors.

Posted by: Ed L at May 18, 2025 09:08 PM (AiJK3)

186 Didn't manage to pull a trigger at duty day last week. Sad! Also disappointing was that we had no SEAL sign up for a membership, breaking a 3-month streak.

But reloading will re-commence, finally. 45ACP then 30-06, then 9mikemike. Then I suppose .380 and 45C.

Stocking up on certain things years ago when much more available/cheaper paying off. Could afford to sell some of my Yugo 54R surplus to a guy who shoots at the same rifle match. Range requires lead-core vs. steel-core to protect the hanging steel plate targets.

But now need to roll the dough for a tourtiere, once in the oven can check back.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 18, 2025 09:08 PM (1m82a)

187 sra blasters new Kimber CDS-9 got a red dot today. I wanted to get a super-tippy-top of the line Holosun for her.

BUT - the Kimber is cut to RMS-c and while the Holosun has an RMS-c to K adapter included that is going to add some height I think.

Also, the Kimber plate takes the rear dovetail sights with it when you take it off. Which give you no back up irons which is a little sad because it has a very nice red fiber optic front sight.

Ended up with a CVLife sight which I have a few of in their cheapie iterations. This one is not as expensive as a Holosun but is also not super cheap. Has an MRS (multi-reticle system) with a 32 MOA circle and 2 MOA dot. Has a side opening battery compartment, shake to wake, and a zillion hours battery life. AND green fiber optic rear sight.

We have not yet taken this to the range. I think this makes us bad gun owners.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at May 18, 2025 09:08 PM (QfvaV)

188 Weasel, are you on the glide path/countdown to retirement in a month?

Posted by: RI Red at May 18, 2025 09:09 PM (/gl0q)

189 182 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at May 18, 2025 09:05 PM (xcxpd)
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You guys let me know when that will be next year!
Posted by: Weasel at May 18, 2025 09:06 PM (EABvN)

Probably early May again!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at May 18, 2025 09:10 PM (xcxpd)

190 Weasel, are you on the glide path/countdown to retirement in a month?
Posted by: RI Red at May 18, 2025 09:09 PM (/gl0q)
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Yep! Mid June. All the pieces are in place.

Posted by: Weasel at May 18, 2025 09:10 PM (EABvN)

191 Probably early May again!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at May 18, 2025 09:10 PM (xcxpd)
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OK, maybe I can wander by. Thanks!

Posted by: Weasel at May 18, 2025 09:11 PM (EABvN)

192 I can't see why having a piston behind the slug makes it silent. "Might" eliminate the blast from the barrel-cylinder gap, but once the slug leaves the muzzle, there will be a blast of gas following.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Exception to the rule of revolvers being able to effectively use a suppressor. The Nagant used ammo with a brass case that expanded to seal the gas inside the chamber along with the cylinder mechanism pushing the whole cylinder forward as to eliminate almost all the gap between the chamber and the barrel throat. That allows a suppressor to be attached if you wanted that would work. Otherwise you would simply get the noise from the revolver gap.

Nagant revolver ammo looks like an uncircumsized case hiding a bullet compared with other ammo.

Posted by: whig at May 18, 2025 09:11 PM (ctrM5)

193 We had M-14s shipboard on my destroyer in the 1970's . Excellent weapon IMO.
Posted by: Archer at May 18, 2025 08:58 PM (IDphi)

A few M-14s still remain in use at sea today. With blanks, they're used to send transfer lines used to move mail and other small things between ships at sea. And someone takes the trouble to de-link M240 ammo, it'll still be useful with real rounds instead of blanks.

Posted by: Ed L at May 18, 2025 09:12 PM (AiJK3)

194 Tactical assault pop tart reeee

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at May 18, 2025 09:12 PM (rT96s)

195 Wow. We recently had a tree fall, but instead of your enormities, it was all of eight inches through, and braced by a couple more than saplings so it did no real damage to the roof even landing there.

Posted by: Eric2 at May 18, 2025 09:13 PM (q7Vou)

196 I liked the video on Newton-Cartan theory. It presupposes a strong background in differential geometry of space time which is not the expected skill set of someone just learning general relativity: so a bad way to begin, unless just happen to already know this stuff. Usually you learn “all this stuff” while learning general relativity, that’s why general relativity seems so often to be more math than physics, at least for the beginner. Minor cavil: I didn’t like that the speaker kept saying La Place. The two “a” are properly pronounced more or less the same: it’s someone’s name - Pierre-Simon Laplace. Also minor cavil that ρ > 0. What about the vacuum Casimir effect? But altogether quite enjoyable for someone who already knows the differential geometry math.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 18, 2025 09:13 PM (ZVgZ4)

197 OK, 9:13 thank you time!

Thank you!

Appreciate you guys and gals. Hope to see you next Sunday!

Posted by: Weasel at May 18, 2025 09:13 PM (EABvN)

198 OK, maybe I can wander by. Thanks!
Posted by: Weasel at May 18, 2025 09:11 PM (EABvN)

You will be welcome, I will have bourbon there. And at least one handgun.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at May 18, 2025 09:13 PM (xcxpd)

199 Yep! Mid June. All the pieces are in place.
Posted by: Weasel at May 18, 2025 09:10 PM (EABvN)

I hope bluebell is preparing a cake for the NoVaMoMe for you. And that it does not include a file or a shiv.

Posted by: RI Red at May 18, 2025 09:14 PM (/gl0q)

200 200!

Posted by: TRex at May 18, 2025 09:14 PM (IQ6Gq)

201 175 I thought this short YT about this Russki revolver was interesting although I don't understand how it's supposed to work.

https://shorturl.at/aYK1c
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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Nasty trigger pull in the few double actions as it has to a) cock the revolver, b) shove the cylinder forward, and c) drop the hammer on the cartridge.

Most Nagant revolvers were single action as a result.

Scuttlebutt I think was that the double action ones were for officers and the single action for guards, ncos, etc.

Posted by: whig at May 18, 2025 09:14 PM (ctrM5)

202 Thanks for hosting, Weasel!

Posted by: Ed L at May 18, 2025 09:16 PM (AiJK3)

203 Posted by: Ed L at May 18, 2025 09:16 PM (AiJK3)
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Sure! Thanks for being here.

Posted by: Weasel at May 18, 2025 09:18 PM (EABvN)

204 Howdy Weasel and all other assorted gub folks!

Posted by: Doof at May 18, 2025 09:20 PM (UQakJ)

205 Q: Weasel, how will this affect us?
A: You get pretty much a zero effort content this week, and very probably not much more than that next week.

This aligns perfectly with our Corporate Mission Statement.

HIRED

Posted by: GlobalMiklosCorp at May 18, 2025 09:20 PM (053s8)

206 Grover Cleveland's jaw cancer.
Woodrow Wilson's stroke.
FDR's heart.
Biden's dementia and prostate.

The Democrats are the party of the cover-up.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 18, 2025 09:04 PM (QnmlO)

Sure, but the GOP had Reagan's Alzheimer's and W being a pretty much total fucking moron.

Posted by: 85 Bears at May 18, 2025 09:23 PM (r2ymA)

207 Soo.. are we going to get a new Amendment for dealing with incapacitated Presidents out of this Biden mess?

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 18, 2025 09:23 PM (l3YAf)

208 The H&K MR556A4 has a short stroke gas piston system instead of a gas tube to operate the bolt carrier. So it should (theoretically) have a lot less gas coming back at you when the rifle is fitted with a suppressor. Unlike earlier versions, the A4 comes with an adjustable gas block to better accommodate suppressors.
Posted by: Ed L
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Pretty much all my builds have an adjustable gas block as it makes it easier to tune them for the ammo you want to feed them apart from suppressor use. In a 20 inch 5.56 AR barrels, the blast is minimal but shorter definitely benefits from a suppressor.

Going to other cartridges like the 6.5 Grendel, 6.8 SPC, and the 300 Blackout also decrease muzzle blast even in shorter barrels compared with the 5.56.

Posted by: whig at May 18, 2025 09:24 PM (ctrM5)

209 Nasty trigger pull in the few double actions as it has to a) cock the revolver, b) shove the cylinder forward, and c) drop the hammer on the cartridge.

Most Nagant revolvers were single action as a result.

Scuttlebutt I think was that the double action ones were for officers and the single action for guards, ncos, etc.
Posted by: whig at May 18, 2025 09:14 PM (ctrM5)

This new Russian revolver is not a Nagant. Five chambers, fires from the bottom chamber like a Chiappa Rhino, and the upper "barrel" is an integrated laser. ut no suppressor in evidence.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 18, 2025 09:26 PM (fiQ+X)

210 We are hanging a frameless shower door.

It should not be this hard. And yet it is.

My advice: Dry fit EVERYTHING before you drill holes. In tile.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at May 18, 2025 09:27 PM (QfvaV)

211 Thanks Weasel and Co.

Time for me to go just like my memory recently.

Got a surgical referral for my back as the recent MRIs of the cervical and lumbar show considerable deterioration. Foraminal stenosis so far and collapsing discs (as multiple ones) probably means nerve impingement on C5-C6 or C6-C7 is causing my right arm numbness. Bothers the hell out of me and affects sleep. I can stand it hurting and numbness during the day but back on Gabapentin which I hate to sleep through the night.

Muscle relaxers during the day when my back seizes up.

So no more heavy recoiling rifles and shotguns or even handguns for me anymore.

Posted by: whig at May 18, 2025 09:29 PM (ctrM5)

212 This new Russian revolver is not a Nagant. Five chambers, fires from the bottom chamber like a Chiappa Rhino, and the upper "barrel" is an integrated laser. ut no suppressor in evidence.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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My reading comprehension needs work. 2nd error in the thread.

Posted by: whig at May 18, 2025 09:30 PM (ctrM5)

213 Concerning the alternative AR chamberings, isn’t 6.8 supposed to be the short-range hard hitting target dropper? 300 BO could also work but is more for subsonic suppressed application. 6.5 Grendel is supposed to be the longer range specialist.

Speaking of 6.5 Grendel, almost finished my case prep work so I can try loading up my first reloads. I’m trying to reverse engineer the Hornady Black load which seems to work pretty well in my rifle. The amount and type of powder seems to suggest CFE 223 but I’ll probably try an alternative or two.

Posted by: Arch Stanton at May 18, 2025 09:32 PM (2VTt6)

214 Got a surgical referral for my back as the recent MRIs of the cervical and lumbar show considerable deterioration. Foraminal stenosis so far and collapsing discs (as multiple ones) probably means nerve impingement on C5-C6 or C6-C7 is causing my right arm numbness. Bothers the hell out of me and affects sleep. I can stand it hurting and numbness during the day but back on Gabapentin which I hate to sleep through the night.

Muscle relaxers during the day when my back seizes up.

So no more heavy recoiling rifles and shotguns or even handguns for me anymore.
Posted by: whig at May 18, 2025 09:29 PM (ctrM5)

Maybe the day will come when they can 3D print vertebrae from some kind of ceramic or tough plastic. Made in two halves, so they can be assembled around the spinal cord and bonded together.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 18, 2025 09:33 PM (fiQ+X)

215 I started watching The Brain Eaters, and as I was looking at the credits I saw that there's an actor named Leonard Nemoy in the movie.

Wonder if that's the same Leonard as...

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 18, 2025 09:33 PM (0CU3H)

216 Soo.. are we going to get a new Amendment for dealing with incapacitated Presidents out of this Biden mess?
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 18, 2025 09:23 PM (l3YAf)

I would support an amendment that would allow for the removal of a flaming homosexual president like Obama.

Posted by: 85 Bears at May 18, 2025 09:34 PM (r2ymA)

217 Sorry, whig, I hope you feel better soon. I’ll be praying for you.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 18, 2025 09:35 PM (l3YAf)

218 Maybe the day will come when they can 3D print vertebrae from some kind of ceramic or tough plastic. Made in two halves, so they can be assembled around the spinal cord and bonded together.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

I have written research funding proposals for less worthy innovations.

Posted by: Mikos can't spell Redneck without R&D at May 18, 2025 09:36 PM (053s8)

219 W wasn’t dumb, he is evil like a lot of the rest of the GOPe. Time to wise up, people.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 18, 2025 09:36 PM (ZVgZ4)

220 Soo.. are we going to get a new Amendment for dealing with incapacitated Presidents out of this Biden mess?
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 18, 2025 09:23 PM (l3YAf)

Nothing will happen.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at May 18, 2025 09:36 PM (QfvaV)

221 There are even some reports that Biden died sometime in 2022.
And that an actor/deep-fake AI body double impersonated him for the last two years of his "Presidency."
Posted by: 85 Bears at May 18, 2025 08:58 PM (r2ymA)

plausible

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 18, 2025 09:36 PM (gbOdA)

222 Maybe the day will come when they can 3D print vertebrae from some kind of ceramic or tough plastic. Made in two halves, so they can be assembled around the spinal cord and bonded together.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 18, 2025 09:33 PM (fiQ+X)
I don’t doubt they are working on it. I don’t know if they will waste it on us geezers

Posted by: Eromero at May 18, 2025 09:37 PM (LHPAg)

223 My reading comprehension needs work. 2nd error in the thread.
Posted by: whig

Watched it, the round is similar to the old Nagant in the bullet being enclosed by the case. Okay. It is the OTs-38 Strechkin revolver but it fires a cartridge with a little more firepower 135 ft/lb as a 22 LR and has a db signature of 110 db which is about the same as a silenced 22 LR.

Little more firepower than the old 32 Smith and Wesson Long.

Posted by: whig at May 18, 2025 09:37 PM (ctrM5)

224 Speaking of 6.5 Grendel, almost finished my case prep work so I can try loading up my first reloads. I’m trying to reverse engineer the Hornady Black load which seems to work pretty well in my rifle. The amount and type of powder seems to suggest CFE 223 but I’ll probably try an alternative or two.
Posted by: Arch Stanton

Have a 6.5 grendel myself with that same plan in mind.
But I need to get a Garmin first for accurate load muzzle velocities first. Then use whatever powder gets me to match the Black load.

At least that is my theory.
Same projectile, same muzzle velocity. Should be good enough?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 18, 2025 09:37 PM (/lPRQ)

225 Wow, I just saw the two cowards of the Three Stooges get "interviewed" by Bartiromo.

The most charitable thing I can say is that the Deep State Criminals will sleep well, there will be no arrests for four years, a reprieve, then when the demons regain power Conservatives will wish for a Rapture for what they will do in retribution because all that the Three Stooges did was announce to the Deep State that they can and will get away with anything.

There is no justice in this world and the Three Stooges are just adding their part.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at May 18, 2025 09:38 PM (a4flb)

226 amazing the cops can raid the wrong house multiple times a day, and it never makes the news, UNLESS its the INS looking for illegals...

Then... suddenly... newsworthy.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 18, 2025 09:38 PM (mP0Kj)

227 217 Sorry, whig, I hope you feel better soon. I’ll be praying for you.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director
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Thanks.

Posted by: whig at May 18, 2025 09:39 PM (ctrM5)

228 Evening, people.

Just finished watching Caddyshack (1980) for the first time. I was . . . underwhelmed. All the best lines and the most lively performance in the movie were from Rodney Dangerfield. The rest of the film -- especially Chevy Chase's performance -- was kind of flat.

"The steak's still got marks from where the jockey was kickin' it!"

[To the judge's wife] "Wow, you must really have been somethin' back before electricity!"

That was the problem: I knew those lines, and expected there to be more in the same vein. There really wasn't.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 18, 2025 09:39 PM (omVj0)

229 Why not make it out of human bone (or the equivalent calcium based structure - no actual human bone needed)? It’s pretty good material, and probably won’t have enough time to wear out in use.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 18, 2025 09:41 PM (ZVgZ4)

230 Sure, but the GOP had Reagan's Alzheimer's and W being a pretty much total fucking moron.
Posted by: 85 Bears
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And yet, Alzheimer's affected Reagan was at still more lucid than Sen. Biden, even then. WBush is an idiot. Kerry and Gore were worse. Sometimes the choices are worse and worser.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 18, 2025 09:41 PM (sAmhv)

231 Posted by: Doof at May 18, 2025 09:20 PM (UQakJ)
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Howdy Doof!

Posted by: Weasel at May 18, 2025 09:41 PM (AWZXb)

232 There are even some reports that Biden died sometime in 2022.
And that an actor/deep-fake AI body double impersonated him for the last two years of his "Presidency."
Posted by: 85 Bears at May 18, 2025

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If that were true, why did they have the actor or body double act as though "Biden" had dementia? If you're going to put in a ringer, wouldn't you want him to do *better* than the original?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 18, 2025 09:42 PM (omVj0)

233 There are even some reports that Biden died sometime in 2022.
And that an actor/deep-fake AI body double impersonated him for the last two years of his "Presidency."
Posted by: 85 Bears at May 18, 2025 08:58 PM (r2ymA)

plausible
Posted by: rhennigantx

I think one of his body doubles had Alzheimer's (or sim.) so they went with him. No verified signatures for almost two years until his personal withdrawel from consideration after the debate. The guy might not even know he is not the actual Joe Biden.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 18, 2025 09:42 PM (/lPRQ)

234 Next weekend we will be at blaster acres. Typically we carry our EDCs, take along the Ace of Spades Heritage Rough Rider with snake shot, and an EP9 for a truck gun.

I am thinking about storing some of the laager in Florida for reasons - so we won't have to be dependent on what we carry and take along, for one.

But we don't have a full-time climate controlled location at this point. We have a shipping container that is secure enough though I would use a safe. That container gets HOT though. I don't see an easy answer - probably just wait.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at May 18, 2025 09:43 PM (QfvaV)

235 Concerning the alternative AR chamberings, isn’t 6.8 supposed to be the short-range hard hitting target dropper?

During the Vietnam War, its reported that for every enemy killed, over 50,000 rounds were fired.

Given that, I don't think it really matters much what they are using as long as it is cheap, plentiful, easy to carry and makes a scary noise.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at May 18, 2025 09:44 PM (a4flb)

236 Evening, people.

Just finished watching Caddyshack (1980) for the first time. I was . . . underwhelmed. All the best lines and the most lively performance in the movie were from Rodney Dangerfield. The rest of the film -- especially Chevy Chase's performance -- was kind of flat.

"The steak's still got marks from where the jockey was kickin' it!"

[To the judge's wife] "Wow, you must really have been somethin' back before electricity!"

That was the problem: I knew those lines, and expected there to be more in the same vein. There really wasn't.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 18, 2025 09:39 PM (omVj0)

Greatest movie ever! Leave you moron card at the door on your way out!

Posted by: Doof at May 18, 2025 09:44 PM (UQakJ)

237 There are even some reports that Biden died sometime in 2022.
And that an actor/deep-fake AI body double impersonated him for the last two years of his "Presidency."

I'm going to call BS. AI would be more life-like and coherent than the representation we all saw.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at May 18, 2025 09:45 PM (a4flb)

238 Next weekend we will be at blaster acres. Typically we carry our EDCs, take along the Ace of Spades Heritage Rough Rider with snake shot, and an EP9 for a truck gun.

I am thinking about storing some of the laager in Florida for reasons - so we won't have to be dependent on what we carry and take along, for one.

But we don't have a full-time climate controlled location at this point. We have a shipping container that is secure enough though I would use a safe. That container gets HOT though. I don't see an easy answer - probably just wait.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at May 18, 2025 09:43 PM (QfvaV)

Hey brother! Did you and Sra Blaster buy a camper like mine yet?

Posted by: Doof at May 18, 2025 09:46 PM (UQakJ)

239 230 see my comment at 219. When you take the blinders off, things are much clearer. Or maybe it’s more like the sunglasses in They Live?

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 18, 2025 09:47 PM (ZVgZ4)

240 Maybe the day will come when they can 3D print vertebrae from some kind of ceramic or tough plastic. Made in two halves, so they can be assembled around the spinal cord and bonded together.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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They do have a new holmium cold laser that can trim bulging discs etc. with minimal side effects. Have to travel to have that done and get insurance approval for it.

Part of it is any major surgical trauma can reignite my psoriatic arthritis so it gets to be a never ending cycle.

Spinal column has only mild central spinal cord stenosis now compared with severe foraminal stenosis in several joints and moderate in others. But,previously I had no central spinal cord stenosis. I also have multiple hemangiomas attaching themselves to my lumbar spinal bones which makes it harder to do surgery before those are dealt with.

I am doing my part to spur the medical economy and provide full employment to the local medical establishment.

Posted by: whig at May 18, 2025 09:47 PM (ctrM5)

241 If that were true, why did they have the actor or body double act as though "Biden" had dementia? If you're going to put in a ringer, wouldn't you want him to do *better* than the original?

They could even craft a two-fer by responding to the cat-calls that the ringer is much less senile and far more active than the original: The mRNA CoViD-1984 vaxx not only cures CoViD but add years of life to the person who takes more than five jabs.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at May 18, 2025 09:48 PM (a4flb)

242 44 It was a training ship. They were training to run into the Brooklyn bridge.
Posted by: fd at May 18, 2025 07:32 PM (vFG9F)

What el capitán said to el timonel: you had Juan job to do!

Posted by: haffhowershower at May 18, 2025 09:48 PM (144I4)

243 But we don't have a full-time climate controlled location at this point. We have a shipping container that is secure enough though I would use a safe. That container gets HOT though. I don't see an easy answer - probably just wait.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat

Got power to it yet?
Put a window AC through the wall.

Did that with my 12 x 24 ft garden shed. Also has 10 ft lean-to on two side with outdoor work bench too.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 18, 2025 09:49 PM (/lPRQ)

244 Hey brother! Did you and Sra Blaster buy a camper like mine yet?
Posted by: Doof at May 18, 2025 09:46 PM (UQakJ)

We did not. I wanted to buy a camper. It's already built, it has appliances, it has AC, a bathroom etc. It's mobile.

She wanted a shed we can build into a tiny house.

We got a shed.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at May 18, 2025 09:49 PM (QfvaV)

245 There is no justice in this world and the Three Stooges are just adding their part.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at May 18, 2025 09:38 PM (a4flb)

UDUP, I think we are all resigned to the notion that none of the Democrat crimes committed by Obama, Biden, Hillary, Comey, Clapper, Brennan etal will ever be called to account in any way like the J6ers were.

Posted by: 85 Bears at May 18, 2025 09:49 PM (r2ymA)

246 Watched it, the round is similar to the old Nagant in the bullet being enclosed by the case. Okay. It is the OTs-38 Strechkin revolver but it fires a cartridge with a little more firepower 135 ft/lb as a 22 LR and has a db signature of 110 db which is about the same as a silenced 22 LR.

Little more firepower than the old 32 Smith and Wesson Long.
Posted by: whig at May 18, 2025 09:37 PM (ctrM5)

Looked it up. The cartridge is necked down, and has a captive piston that drives the slug out, and is then stopped by the neck of the cartridge, retaining all the gas pressure in the cartridge case. Hence, silent. But the effective "barrel" length, i.e. the distance the gas expansion drives the bullet is only about an inch. Once the gas piston hits the stop, the bullet just coasts out of the barrel. I expect the spent cartridges slowly bleed off pressure, otherwise, they might be stuck in the cylinder.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 18, 2025 09:49 PM (ZwnGn)

247 Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at May 18, 2025 09:49 PM (QfvaV)
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If I had to do it over, I would 100% go the shed route.

Posted by: Weasel at May 18, 2025 09:51 PM (Rwc47)

248 TTG, Weasel, et al.
Life is good.
Sunday nights are good.

Posted by: RI Red at May 18, 2025 09:51 PM (/gl0q)

249 213 Concerning the alternative AR chamberings, isn’t 6.8 supposed to be the short-range hard hitting target dropper? 300 BO could also work but is more for subsonic suppressed application. 6.5 Grendel is supposed to be the longer range specialist.

6.8 SPC and 6.5 Grendel have almost identical bullet drops up to about 400 yards where the Grendel begins to shine. It is more that hog hunters adopted the 6.8 SPC so there are a fair number of hunting rounds for it while the 6.5 Grendel did better in the long distance shooting game. I built one of both during the Obammy years so I figured at least one of those rifles would have ammo to shoot with.

6.5 Grendel also used to have cheap Russian made steel cased Wolf Ammo for it but that has dried up pretty much.

Posted by: whig at May 18, 2025 09:52 PM (ctrM5)

250 Now gotta go for real.

Posted by: whig at May 18, 2025 09:52 PM (ctrM5)

251 Hey! A California compliant toaster pastry!

Posted by: Lies! Lies! at May 18, 2025 09:53 PM (QSrLX)

252 Posted by: RI Red at May 18, 2025 09:51 PM (/gl0q)
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Nite Red.

Posted by: Weasel at May 18, 2025 09:53 PM (Rwc47)

253 Why not make it out of human bone (or the equivalent calcium based structure - no actual human bone needed)? It’s pretty good material, and probably won’t have enough time to wear out in use.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 18, 2025 09:41 PM (ZVgZ4)

If an artificial bone can be assembled by 3D printing, that might work well.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 18, 2025 09:54 PM (ZwnGn)

254 Looked it up. The cartridge is necked down, and has a captive piston that drives the slug out, and is then stopped by the neck of the cartridge, retaining all the gas pressure in the cartridge case. Hence, silent. But the effective "barrel" length, i.e. the distance the gas expansion drives the bullet is only about an inch. Once the gas piston hits the stop, the bullet just coasts out of the barrel. I expect the spent cartridges slowly bleed off pressure, otherwise, they might be stuck in the cylinder.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

The only practical use appears to be for hits.
Might as well go with any cheap throw down or well made zip gun.
Or bring bacl the Liberator.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 18, 2025 09:54 PM (/lPRQ)

255
Got power to it yet?
Put a window AC through the wall.

Did that with my 12 x 24 ft garden shed. Also has 10 ft lean-to on two side with outdoor work bench too.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 18, 2025 09:49 PM (/lPRQ)

We do not have power but I am putting up a solar power system net weekend. That would not be terrible for maintaining a climate controlled area but I hesitate to build it and leave it - this one is going up for the pump on the well. A test bed.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at May 18, 2025 09:55 PM (QfvaV)

256 Thank you Weasel and thanks Horde. Have a good night and a good week.

Posted by: TRex at May 18, 2025 09:55 PM (IQ6Gq)

257 UDUP, I think we are all resigned to the notion that none of the Democrat crimes committed by Obama, Biden, Hillary, Comey, Clapper, Brennan etal will ever be called to account in any way like the J6ers were.

I agree, and this would be true no matter who was running the FBI and DOJ.

Where are the scalps of those who raided Mar a Lago? the Pipe-bomb grab-ass, the idiots who converted the Department of Peace into a bunker and had to be forced out, those who deleted terrabytes of damning evidence of misuse, those who violated all kinds of laws to give tax money to terrorists, the $5.2B in aid to the Huthis while the Navy was simultaneously pounding the same Huthis. There are thousands of embezzlers who DOGE has identified and has laid out their crimes.

What we are learning is that you can embezzle billions, kill thousands, arm terrorists, give aid and comfort to the enemy, sell national security secrets and as long as you are a faithful Party Member, you never see any consequences except Generational Wealth for your crimes.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at May 18, 2025 09:56 PM (a4flb)

258 Hope our Texas morons are being spared from the storm!

Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at May 18, 2025 09:56 PM (rF2iL)

259 If I had to do it over, I would 100% go the shed route.
Posted by: Weasel at May 18, 2025 09:51 PM (Rwc47)

Interesting data point. Why?

And of course this makes my wife right. Because of course she is.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at May 18, 2025 09:56 PM (QfvaV)

260 The only practical use appears to be for hits.
Might as well go with any cheap throw down or well made zip gun.
Or bring bacl the Liberator.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 18, 2025 09:54 PM (/lPRQ)

Or just a .22 Kel-Tec with suppressor. I got to shoot one of those a few weeks ago, and it makes about as much noise as a BB gun.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 18, 2025 09:57 PM (ZwnGn)

261 We did not. I wanted to buy a camper. It's already built, it has appliances, it has AC, a bathroom etc. It's mobile.

She wanted a shed we can build into a tiny house.

We got a shed.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at May 18, 2025 09:49 PM (QfvaV)

Haha! Enjoy it!

Posted by: Doof at May 18, 2025 09:58 PM (UQakJ)

262 Or bring bacl the Liberator.

The whole point and purpose of the Liberator was to sneak up on someone with a better gun, surprise them with the Liberator and upgrade.

Since killing someone was already on the menu, why fool around with the Liberator when a grenade would yield much better harvest?

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at May 18, 2025 09:59 PM (a4flb)

263 Tangentially 0n-topic; I'm currently watching a Rifftrax movie (a successor to Mystery Science Theater 3000) called 'In Pursuit.' It stars Daniel Baldwin. I am so glad this movie was riffed before the Alec Baldwin Rust-incident....or else the jokes would be incredibly awkward...

Posted by: Castle Guy at May 18, 2025 10:02 PM (Lhaco)

264 Have an Uncle who build a shed on his spare lot.

Used plans for a simple little 24x36 kit house.

Made pad for the slab on grade (SOG) floor.
Laid out the in ground waste lines with plugs.
Placed concrete.
2x4 tilt-up walls with studs placed for future windows and doors, with T1-11 siding. Tilt-up the walls.
Build roof (I think he paid for roof trusses for full span no columns).

Instant work-shed.
Future house.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 18, 2025 10:05 PM (/lPRQ)

265 "I upgraded to an AR15"

Question. I shot expert with M16A2 for 6 years. Nothing special, 226-232. It was easy but that's a credit to our PMIs. It

So one year after my EAS, some poor girl sacrificed herself for humanity and said "I do". Her father takes us to range and lets me shoot one of his AR-15s. You would love this guy, he's an avid collector. He's was Army, then Texas Border Control. Being a Marine was enough to earn his trust for his daughters hand, but he's like that guy that ran the inquiry in Absence of Malice, so I've been walking on eggshells. But not this day. Today my reign as The Promised One begins.

Pro-tip: shooting with your father-in-law automatically invokes Murphy. Read the terms and conditions of Manhood, Subsection 12v Voided If...

Shot 1: no impact, no idea
Shot 2: no impact, no idea
Shot 3: no impact, no idea
WTF
Shot 4: no impact, no idea
Shot 5 : no impact, no idea

Thankfully, this was a time when I still possessed enough brain cells to know when to stop digging. And in my defense - no BZO and shooting from standing. It's also possible Army did a bit of sabo to keep me humble. But still, that doesn't account for how bad I shot.

Posted by: Fen at May 18, 2025 10:09 PM (ciYHQ)

266 so how different are the platforms, because I assumed other than semi mode, they were close enough to hop back and forth on as primary weaps.

Posted by: Fen at May 18, 2025 10:11 PM (ciYHQ)

267 And the Puro Ambar is kaput.

Robusto 5x50
Good construction. Firm, easy draw, held ash very well (only two drops).
Weird flavor most would find off-putting,, but I like something different in regular rotation (but not really weird like Acid).

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 18, 2025 10:12 PM (/lPRQ)

268 I don’t know if they will waste it on us geezers
Posted by: Eromero
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I prefer 'grumpy old men'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 18, 2025 10:13 PM (XeU6L)

269 For centuries war was waged by the blade. Then the Twentieth Century with guns, planes and bombs.

Posted by: 85 Bears at May 18, 2025 10:17 PM (r2ymA)

270 For centuries war was waged by the blade. Then the Twentieth Century with guns, planes and bombs.

Posted by: 85 Bears
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21st, drones, AI.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 18, 2025 10:18 PM (XeU6L)

271 "Boner Margarita" was the last single that Lou Reed recorded.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 18, 2025 10:26 PM (D7oie)

272 Yeah, the OTs-38 Stechkin silent revolver is for SpezNaz use. Looks like a variation on what we used to give Vietnam tunnel rats to use: no flash, little noise, good for pitch dark tunnels.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 18, 2025 10:38 PM (ZVgZ4)

273 "I think we are all resigned to the notion that-"

We have to stop doing that.

And I understand why violence is bad, but our aversion to it has gone too far. I remember when it was acceptable as a last resort. Now just mentioning that summons the Glowie Witch-hunters. And the people that appoint themselves as such have poor analysis and don't care if they torch an innocent.

We're already handicapped by GOP Impotence and Treachery. Adding Futility and the Hysteria of Salem is not sustainable. I don't know the solution, but a doc can diagnose a disease without knowing the cure. Maybe mass infiltration of the marxist movements? All I know is that it's irrelevant which side is right or wrong - it comes down to which side has the will to kill/die for their cause.

Posted by: Fen at May 18, 2025 10:42 PM (ciYHQ)

274 Tangentially 0n-topic; I'm currently watching a Rifftrax movie (a successor to Mystery Science Theater 3000) called 'In Pursuit.' It stars Daniel Baldwin. I am so glad this movie was riffed before the Alec Baldwin Rust-incident....or else the jokes would be incredibly awkward...
Posted by: Castle Guy at May 18, 2025 10:02 PM (Lh
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Awkward jokes are the best jokes. I think I saw part of that one on PlutoTV.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at May 18, 2025 10:58 PM (0aYVJ)

275 Yeah, missed tonight. Visiting Mom in Washington (so, way different time zone) and missed the thread. Will likely miss next week, too, depending on the timing of the Denver layover.I

I feel naked going around town without a gun on.

Posted by: GWB at May 19, 2025 01:15 AM (uTEcG)

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