Politico: Democrats Beginning to Fear That Their Five-Year Conspiracy of Deception About the Husk President Might Come With Actual Consequences

While Politico refuses to say so, the media should have the same worries.

Oh right, I said "Democrats." That includes the media.

Joe Biden may have cost Democrats the White House in 2024. Their inability to admit it, some Democrats fear, could hobble them in 2028.
As a fresh reckoning in the party unfolds around the former president's mental acuity, potential presidential contenders have mostly dodged questions about his condition while in office. They've also sidestepped whether the party should have more forcefully called on him to abandon his reelection bid earlier.
"How are some of these national frontrunners or people who are already barnstorming states like South Carolina or Iowa expected to look voters in the eyes with a straight face and say, 'Trust me, even though I got the 2024 election so terribly wrong?'" asked the former Rep. Joe Cunningham (D-S.C.), who said he expects the issue to come up on the trail in what is now the first-in-the-nation primary state. "There's no courage on display by any of the folks whose names are being circulated right now."
He said the party's Biden question needs to be "nipped in the bud" if Democrats want to reestablish trust with voters.
Some potential presidential contenders have been willing to criticize Biden, to varying degrees, risking pushback from critics accusing them of hypocrisy after they defended Biden last year. Just this week, Sen. Chris Murphy of Connecticut said there was "no doubt" about Biden's cognitive decline, former Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg conceded the party "maybe" would have done better without him and Rep. Ro Khanna of California said "Democrats must be honest ... Joe Biden should not have run for reelection."
But they were the exception. For the most part, leading Democrats -- many of whom attested to Biden's fitness when he was still on the ticket -- are ducking what is fast becoming the first real litmus test of the 2028 campaign. The problem for Democrats is Biden's blast radius keeps expanding. It isn't just the embarrassing accounts dribbling out from a forthcoming book. It's that so many Democrats with 2028 ambitions were defending him at the time -- and are now being forced to answer for what they knew and when.
When Murphy, in an interview, fessed up to Biden's diminishing capabilities, GOP operatives threw months-old comments in face. "This you??" said an aide to Speaker Mike Johnson on the social media platform X, pointing to when the Democratic senator had vouched for Biden in the wake of a damning Wall Street Journal report on the subject.
Khanna got similar treatment. After Biden's disastrous debate, one social media user pointed out, Khanna compared Biden to the fictional boxer Rocky, saying the latter was a "fighter" even if he "wasn't the most eloquent."
On Thursday, Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro appeared to try to differentiate himself from other ambitious Democrats -- and put some distance between himself and Biden -- by maintaining he privately raised concerns with the former president in the moment.
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While Shapiro said publicly at the time that Biden had "a responsibility to reassure" Pennsylvanians he could win, the governor and most other elected Democrats defended Biden's fitness up through the final months of his presidency.

Note that the only thing Democrats will admit about Biden's health is that maybe he lacked the physical ability to "vigorously" fight in the 2024 election, or maybe he didn't reassure voters that he "could win."

This is the same lie they all told when they were pressuring Biden to drop out. They all claimed they had no questions about his mental acuity or ability to discharge the office. They only were concerned about his "ability to win" or the public's mistaken perception of Biden as too frail and deteriorated to be president.

This is how they justify forcing him out of the race but letting the demented man remain president for six more months.

And they're still lying, including those, like Josh Shapiro, that Politico claims are finally doing some "truth" telling. They're still pushing the absurd lie that Biden was mentally fit, just maybe not capable of convincing voters that he was mentally fit.

Asked by POLITICO in August 2024 if he had any concerns that Biden had slipped, Shapiro said, "Not at all, and I've been in regular contact with the president."

The article notes that Gavin Newsom vouched for Biden's fitness, even after the debate.

At least he vouched publicly.

But he was present at the fundraiser where Biden shocked people with his weakness and lack of mental acuity.

But the book reports that Newsom attended a June 2023 fundraiser with Biden in Kentfield, California that "went awry," with attendees "shaken by Biden's meandering remarks."
"I remember leaving that fundraiser thinking, Fuck," one attendee told the book's authors, Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson.

Democrats continue pushing the lie and refusing to come clean:

"I think he had good days and bad days. That's all I'll say," Sen. Elissa Slotkin of Michigan told POLITICO.

The leader of the free world, the man with access to the nuclear football, is not allowed to continue in office if he has "some good days, some bad days."

Many Democrats who vouched up and down for Biden's fitness now say... they didn't see Biden's infirmity, because they just never spoke to Biden much:

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It was a pleading of ignorance that Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer likewise employed, telling CNN on Thursday, "I didn't see the president frequently. And I can tell you I can't speak to that directly."

But you did speak to his fitness directly in 2024. You say you didn't really see him much -- but you vouched for him anyway.

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Some Democrats argue that their leaders aren't owning up to the truth about Biden -- and risk keeping the issue alive indefinitely as a result. They fear that Democrats' record-low approval ratings are tied, in part, to their unwillingness to come clean.

This is amusing: "Tapper" is trending, and not for good reasons.

Posted by: Ace at 01:25 PM

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1 First!!

I hope Tapper and Comey share a cell.

Posted by: jmel at May 16, 2025 01:26 PM (RWHIh)

2 We aren't focused on the past. We are looking forward.

Posted by: Chuck Schemer at May 16, 2025 01:28 PM (N39Ws)

3 Everything he "signed" should now be null and void

Posted by: It's me donna at May 16, 2025 01:29 PM (VE6XX)

4 I strongly recommend the Mark Halperin video in the link. He calls out Brian Stelter for covering for Jake Tapper, and says that the Dems need to admit what they did, and apologize, or this will follow them forever.

I'd like to say I think he's right, but I don't. Anyone who is still voting for Democrats is beyond logic and ethics.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 16, 2025 01:29 PM (s8j++)

5 1 First!!

I hope Tapper and Comey share a cell.
Posted by: jmel at May 16, 2025 01:26 PM (RWHIh)

Nah. They both need bunkies to show them what a prison wallet can be used for.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 16, 2025 01:30 PM (N39Ws)

6 On Thursday, Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro appeared to try to differentiate himself from other ambitious Democrats -- and put some distance between himself and Biden -- by maintaining he privately raised concerns with the former president in the moment.

Let me guess. There was nobody around to witness his brave stand.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 16, 2025 01:30 PM (s8j++)

7 Handkerchief Jefferry thinks he has a brilliant dodge by "we're looking forward" and "we have won some special elections which proves voters trust Democrats."

Oh.

OK.

Good. That means they don't have a response, aren't close to finding one, and are shattering in desperation because all the old lies aren't working.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 16, 2025 01:31 PM (M1WSs)

8 Sheesh, and they said WE had no credibility.

Posted by: People who were not a Nazi at May 16, 2025 01:31 PM (s8j++)

9 High profile example of lying after high profile example of lying...

It's weird that it's having an effect.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 16, 2025 01:31 PM (GBKbO)

10 Watch this video of Hakeem Jeffries just non-answering the questions about Biden's condition.

https://tinyurl.com/f2dvpma4

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 16, 2025 01:31 PM (i+lpl)

11 So the former director of the FBI wants us to believe he just stumbled across some already-arranged seashells and didn’t know “86” could mean to kill someone?
That’s what he’s going with?

Posted by: m at May 16, 2025 05:19 AM (CQE5S)

They should share a lengthy and horrible demise.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 16, 2025 01:31 PM (i24o9)

12 I care less about the media fessing up to being shitheads than I do about a DoJ investigation into who was actually running the country during the demented husk's term.

Because everyone knows it was not Joe *biden.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 16, 2025 01:31 PM (Q4IgG)

13 I wish so, but until something happens I doubt it

Posted by: Skip at May 16, 2025 01:31 PM (ypFCm)

14 I'd like to say I think he's right, but I don't. Anyone who is still voting for Democrats is beyond logic and ethics.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 16, 2025 01:29
THIS!!!!

Posted by: MAC V SOG at May 16, 2025 01:32 PM (P4Pk9)

15 10 Watch this video of Hakeem Jeffries just non-answering the questions about Biden's condition.

https://tinyurl.com/f2dvpma4
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 16, 2025 01:31 PM (i+lpl)

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YOU'RE NOT MY SUPERVISOR!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 16, 2025 01:32 PM (GBKbO)

16 Watch this video of Hakeem Jeffries just non-answering the questions about Biden's condition.

He (Jeffries) seems to be unable to articulate. That's precisely what you want in the head of your party.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 16, 2025 01:32 PM (s8j++)

17 They knew. We knew. They knew we knew. They didn't care. Elder abuse is just one example of what they will do to hold onto power.

Posted by: NR Pax at May 16, 2025 01:32 PM (svLOV)

18 4 I'd like to say I think he's right, but I don't. Anyone who is still voting for Democrats is beyond logic and ethics.
Posted by: Archimedes

Exactly. Any reading of the DU posts let you know liberals / democrats are incapable of thinking for themselves.

Posted by: Piper at May 16, 2025 01:32 PM (p4NUW)

19 This is yet more evidence to support my theory that it's 50/50 the 2028 Democrap frontrunner isn't on the radar yet. The overwhelming stench from the Joey Shitbrains cover-up may take out all the 2024 hopefuls, leaving nobody left standing other than "new" candidates. No, I don't know who those new candidates might be.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 16, 2025 01:32 PM (iFTx/)

20 I saw The Husk Presidents open for J.J. and the Seftones at Red Rocks in '02

Posted by: Life of Wryly at May 16, 2025 01:33 PM (ycs3a)

21 3 Everything he "signed" should now be null and void
Posted by: It's me donna

Just like Biden's skull.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 16, 2025 01:33 PM (Dv3i1)

22 Secretary Pete Buttigieg conceded the party "maybe" would have done better without him
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Wow, what a bold courageous leader.

Posted by: ... at May 16, 2025 01:33 PM (mmeY7)

23 Yeah, I'm the expert media commentator for a once-major network, and I didn't see any of this coming. So fuck me, I guess.

Posted by: Tater Stelter at May 16, 2025 01:33 PM (paSBy)

24 This is yet more evidence to support my theory that it's 50/50 the 2028 Democrap frontrunner isn't on the radar yet. The overwhelming stench from the Joey Shitbrains cover-up may take out all the 2024 hopefuls, leaving nobody left standing other than "new" candidates. No, I don't know who those new candidates might be.

David Hogg, FTW!!!

Posted by: Archimedes at May 16, 2025 01:33 PM (s8j++)

25 To be fair, it is harder to tell when a complete retard develops dementia.

Posted by: Kratwurst at May 16, 2025 01:33 PM (fcDpY)

26 16
He (Jeffries) seems to be unable to articulate. That's precisely what you want in the head of your party.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 16, 2025 01:32 PM (s8j++)

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Pelosi and Reid were the two greatest leaders Democrats have had in decades.

Reid's dead, has been out of office for years, and was replaced by a guy who puts cheese on fresh hamburger.

Pelosi is still alive, in office, but not official head of the caucus while her replacement is borderline retarded.

It's weird.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 16, 2025 01:34 PM (GBKbO)

27 19 This is yet more evidence to support my theory that it's 50/50 the 2028 Democrap frontrunner isn't on the radar yet. The overwhelming stench from the Joey Shitbrains cover-up may take out all the 2024 hopefuls, leaving nobody left standing other than "new" candidates. No, I don't know who those new candidates might be.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 16, 2025 01:32 PM (iFTx/)

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I don't think Democrat primary voters care about this issue.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 16, 2025 01:34 PM (GBKbO)

28 I don’t think this will hurt Dems in the slightest. Anyone who cares knew Biden’s brains were pudding in 2020.

There might be some moderates or independents who would have cared back when Biden was President, but now it’s old news.

The con worked. They basically got away with it.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 16, 2025 01:35 PM (l3YAf)

29 Beau Biden died in his father's blast radius while fighting the KKK in Iraq.

Posted by: I Stand With No One at May 16, 2025 01:35 PM (Md892)

30 No, I don't know who those new candidates might be.
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Come sit by me, Daddy.

Posted by: Jasmine Crockett at May 16, 2025 01:35 PM (paSBy)

31 The Emperor's New Clothes is a old story but is happening right before our eyes

Posted by: Skip at May 16, 2025 01:35 PM (ypFCm)

32 Incompetent Biden surrounded by people making decisions about important matters on his behalf. It's all about me, isn't it?

Posted by: Commander Autopen, Signer of Pardons at May 16, 2025 01:35 PM (rj6Yv)

33 before the bad debate performance, many Democrats were celebrating Joe as the “best President of our lifetime.” Now he’s just road kill on our way to oblivion unless we stop with the circular firing squad. It just really pisses me off.

All the bs about Hillary Clinton's emails was around for months. Lies about Al Gore claiming he invented the internet. Just because the corrupt corporate media repeats the same lies over “for months” doesn’t make them true.

Sounds like Politico is ginning up a fight int the DNC. Fuck Politico and those who end up buying into this fake thing. why would we do this? '24 is over, dump Mango T. Jebus's successor, who-ever they are in'28

It's done and we're in the worst Presidency ever and will be in it's aftermath in '28. We have more important things to do than divert into a circle jerk over '24 in '28.

F Litmus Tests. They're laying ground for the hand-raising questions in a debate. Avoid these BS demands for phony squabbles from outsiders.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 16, 2025 01:35 PM (ekm7d)

34 I like how they are all pretending to point to the debate as the very first, no sooner, day they all found out--just like you!-- that Biden was infirm mentally.

Oh?

Then how come all of you repeated the lie that he had a bit of a cold, the sniffles, just a bit under the weather excuse for days and days afterward?

Recall how you repeated that without filter, explanation or contest?

And then there was the rally in GA just days after, and you all cheered, "see! he's fine! Really was just a bit ill at the debate, is all!"

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 16, 2025 01:35 PM (M1WSs)

35 I don't think Democrat primary voters care about this issue.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Do you think their votes are going to matter next time?

Posted by: Kratwurst at May 16, 2025 01:35 PM (fcDpY)

36 Hang their Biden support around their necks. Also, nail them on the pronoun thing and don't stop. If they still have pronouns in their bio, focus on that. If they took them out, ask them when they became "transphobes," or if they were just lying before.

Posted by: Eternity Matters at May 16, 2025 01:36 PM (yT7Wa)

37 Doddergate is A Vast Left-Wing Conspiracy!

Posted by: ShainS -- Whites Have No Home Here! at May 16, 2025 01:36 PM (oWJYv)

38 It was a tossup between looking forward, not back and what difference does it make. I flipped a coin.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 16, 2025 01:37 PM (n2swS)

39 Again... why are they pushing this story in the news? Tapper I get trying to sell a book but why so many others? They could have just let it go and it would have disappeared, just more proof of legacy media complicity.

My only guess is that its a power struggle between Democrat crime families.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 16, 2025 01:37 PM (2VST1)

40 None of this matters. Democrat
Party is cult. They can run whoever they want. Whether they can win…..

Posted by: JROD at May 16, 2025 01:37 PM (C+lGE)

41 Imagine Comey and Tapper actually in a cell together.

The sheer psychological torture as they each try to back-handed compliment each other into submission, fighting passively but desperately aggressively for the status of alpha jackass...

Guards all betting on which one breaks first and yells "Yeah well fuck you!". Prop bets on which one calls the other a fag first.

I say we do it.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 16, 2025 01:37 PM (yvnLa)

42 the demorat/media complex's True Believers will believe every syllable of these lies

some old AWFLs in my acquaintance still think Bidet was in perfect condition

they're the ones that watch the View and MSNBC

Posted by: kallisto at May 16, 2025 01:37 PM (dCxaZ)

43 ~~Doddergate~~ Doddergait to is A Vast Left-Wing Conspiracy!

[Fixed]

Posted by: ShainS -- Whites Have No Home Here! at May 16, 2025 01:38 PM (oWJYv)

44 He said the party's Biden question needs to be "nipped in the bud" if Democrats want to reestablish trust with voters.
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Whomever they nominate, we should call characterize him as "Biden II."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 16, 2025 01:38 PM (YqDXo)

45 Ross - Kentfield California is quite a wealthy neck of the woods.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at May 16, 2025 01:38 PM (SCwm0)

46 I think those on the left are also mad at the media - not for hiding this, but for trashing Biden and not giving deference to how amazing he was a president. De.lu.lu. I guess the good news is both sides are mad at the media?

Posted by: Piper at May 16, 2025 01:38 PM (p4NUW)

47 Doddergate Doddergait to is A Vast Left-Wing Conspiracy!

[Fixed]

Posted by: ShainS -- Whites Have No Home Here! at May 16, 2025 01:38 PM (oWJYv)
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Why not "Geezergate?"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 16, 2025 01:39 PM (YqDXo)

48 This is yet more evidence to support my theory that it's 50/50 the 2028 Democrap frontrunner isn't on the radar yet. The overwhelming stench from the Joey Shitbrains cover-up may take out all the 2024 hopefuls, leaving nobody left standing other than "new" candidates. No, I don't know who those new candidates might be.

David Hogg, FTW!!!
Posted by: Archimedes at May 16, 2025 01:33 PM (s8j++)
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He might still be hanging around in 2036. Or maybe not. I'm not sure he survives his current cancellation at the DNC. He also seemed an odd choice to have any role in the party or as any kind of influence at all.

He's an idiot with no skills or talent, looks like an AI version of an incel with hacked-off penises in his fridge, comes off as an arrogant little cockpole sitta, and everything he touches turns to shit.

Why would anyone want him around? The party might be finally coming to that realization as well.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 16, 2025 01:39 PM (iFTx/)

49 Jaketapper: one who taps Jakes.

Posted by: Maxwell Smart at May 16, 2025 01:39 PM (6YdsJ)

50 Hakeem Jefferies is a nitwit who could only get elected in an urban area. His uncle Leonard Jefferies was a college professor who wanted about white supremacy and "ice people", and was a Sharpton ally. Keep talking Hakeem and by all means , push reparations

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 16, 2025 01:39 PM (2ZThz)

51 Is it really that hard to just say “You fucked up. You trusted us.” and move on?

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 16, 2025 01:39 PM (WC9SG)

52 Really the only thing that will hurt the Dems in '28 is the dismantling of their vote fraud apparatus.

Posted by: teejuss at May 16, 2025 01:40 PM (5gQej)

53 Imagine Comey and Tapper actually in a cell together.

The sheer psychological torture as they each try to back-handed compliment each other into submission, fighting passively but desperately aggressively for the status of alpha jackass...

Guards all betting on which one breaks first and yells "Yeah well fuck you!". Prop bets on which one calls the other a fag first.

I say we do it.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 16, 2025 01:37 PM (yvnLa)
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It was made for PPV.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 16, 2025 01:40 PM (YqDXo)

54 It was made for PPV.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 16, 2025 01:40 PM (YqDXo)
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Out: OnlyFans
In: OnlyShitheads

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 16, 2025 01:40 PM (YqDXo)

55 It was made for PPV.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 16, 2025 01:40 PM (YqDXo)

Survivor: Riker's Island

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 16, 2025 01:40 PM (yvnLa)

56 35 I don't think Democrat primary voters care about this issue.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Do you think their votes are going to matter next time?
Posted by: Kratwurst at May 16, 2025 01:35 PM (fcDpY)

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People acting like Democrat elite are even able to rig their primary process have...no memory of the past 2 primaries, do they?

The one they did successfully rig, 2016, they barely managed because Hillary was so disliked and the establishment so distrusted. And, in response, the DNC actually decreased the strength of superdelegates.

In 2020, they tried so hard to rig it, propping up Kamala then Warren then Beto then Buttigieg (who even won Iowa) until they had to coalesce around Biden as the only possible non-Bernie choice.

The Democrats' ability to rig their primary is...vastly overstated.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 16, 2025 01:41 PM (GBKbO)

57 The DU bubble never fails to amaze me.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 16, 2025 01:41 PM (XeU6L)

58 Incompetent Biden surrounded by people making decisions about important matters on his behalf. It's all about me, isn't it?
Posted by: Commander Autopen, Signer of Pardons at May 16, 2025 01:35 PM (rj6Yv)

Curtis Yarvin is right, I guess. It would be far better to have an inbred mindless royal figurehead supposedly running a government, than the Dementia Patient Joe Biden. It would have at least kept the most deserving and powerful members controlling him in power without having to worry about distractions like elections.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 16, 2025 01:41 PM (D7oie)

59 Let's be honest, Biden didnt have access to the nuclear football.

Posted by: Max Power at May 16, 2025 01:41 PM (Hucnr)

60 His uncle Leonard Jefferies was a college professor who wanted about white supremacy and "ice people"
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What's the antonym? "Mud people?"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 16, 2025 01:41 PM (YqDXo)

61 Tanned, rested, ready.

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 16, 2025 01:41 PM (l3YAf)

62 Even if the Dems come clean about dementia denial, they still have the problem of whose bright idea was it to replace Biden with the blithering idiot (Retard-gate). That was an even bigger obvious blunder.

Posted by: Ripley at May 16, 2025 01:41 PM (GUOwU)

63 57 The DU bubble never fails to amaze me.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 16, 2025 01:41 PM (XeU6L)

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Still love Biden. Still think he's great.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 16, 2025 01:42 PM (GBKbO)

64 Let's be honest, Biden didnt have access to the nuclear football.

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Then...Kamala did ?! whoa

Posted by: runner at May 16, 2025 01:42 PM (g47mK)

65 I'm going to repeat something I've posted before. The BIG fear about Joey in the Dem-Media Complex is revelation of how often Joe was amped-up on drugs, and how often. Plus how long he had to rest (sleep) after each drug cocktail injection wore off.

Will any 'journalist' ever ask Fapper why Joe occasionally appeared to run on 440V (his last SOTU speech, for example) but often appeared to be lost in space, slurring words and flubbing his teleprompter and notecard lines? But I already know Fapper's answer. Joe had bad colds nearly every day of his term!

Posted by: Gref at May 16, 2025 01:42 PM (aBgBM)

66 I think this pretense that one needed to "interact" with Biden to be aware of his condition might be my favorite lie-assumption of the last year.

They really are the worst of the worst. See you can't "prove" how much Whitmer interacted with Biden or what occurred when she did. So that's where she and the others land.

Meanwhile no one will ask "but you, ya know, saw him on the TV, right"? And that's when you realize the media's phony gasping shock upon "finding out" his condition is not just cover for themselves, but for their patrons.

How can the media verily demand these candidates all knew something and covered it up when they too were "fooled" by the six dastardly staffers.

Posted by: ... at May 16, 2025 01:42 PM (mmeY7)

67 Hakeem Jefferies is a nitwit who could only get elected in an urban area.

He's Temu Obama, nobody takes him seriously, especially not himself.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 16, 2025 01:42 PM (2VST1)

68 The DU bubble never fails to amaze me.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 16, 2025 01:41 PM (XeU6L)

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Still love Biden. Still think he's great.

No, that's not it. They know what he was, and is. This isn't about their opinion of him. This is about their refusal to admit they lied out their asses for the entirely of his term and before, and they're still lying, because they fear electoral oblivion if they admit to their crimes. I think they don't need to worry.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 16, 2025 01:43 PM (s8j++)

69 Then...Kamala did ?! whoa
Posted by: runner at May 16, 2025 01:42 PM (g47mK)

Nah. Probably Garland

Posted by: night lifted at May 16, 2025 01:44 PM (FZn/N)

70
Yeah, let's move on.

The people using an unconscious Biden to provide a conduit of public money into private pockets and silence opposition to their perverse sexual abuse of children and human trafficking have to be called on it and charged.

Posted by: Auspex at May 16, 2025 01:44 PM (j4U/Z)

71
What's the antonym? "Mud people?"
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 16, 2025 01:41 PM (YqDXo)
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"Sun people." Kind, loving, caring, community oriented, like Idi Amin.

Posted by: Maxwell Smart at May 16, 2025 01:44 PM (6YdsJ)

72 --Still love Biden. Still think he's great.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 16, 2025 01:42 PM (GBKbO)--

I don't think they actually love Biden. They just love anybody who appears to be stomping on the throats of the cons.

Posted by: teejuss at May 16, 2025 01:44 PM (5gQej)

73 I guess we'll have to wait and see. Shouldn't be lo g, isn't iowas caucus next week for 2028?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 16, 2025 01:44 PM (F3OOo)

74 The Democrats' ability to rig their primary is...vastly overstated.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Yeah you’re probably right, but they didn’t just rig the last one. They threw out the results and dropped in the guzzler.

Rule by elites is sort of their thing.

Posted by: Kratwurst at May 16, 2025 01:44 PM (fcDpY)

75 Let's be honest, Biden didnt have access to the nuclear football.

It’s actually a good question, how many of the people at the White House were in on the undermining of the president’s power.

Everyone must have been in on the deception, but how many were in on the actual subversion?

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 16, 2025 01:44 PM (WC9SG)

76 " 'Trust me, even though I got the 2024 election so terribly wrong?'" asked the former Rep. Joe Cunningham (D-S.C.), who said he expects the issue to come up on the trail in what is now the first-in-the-nation primary state. "There's no courage on display by any of the folks whose names are being circulated right now."

He said the party's Biden question needs to be "nipped in the bud" if Democrats want to reestablish trust with voters."

Easier said than done. How exactly, should this bud be nipped? Once they admit they didn't say anything about his disability before the debate, they'll need to explain why they never 25A'd him after the debate. Once they 'explain' that, they'll be asked 'who, then, was actually running the WH'. And then 'did Biden really sign all those pardons?' And so on.

Trump (the Reps won't do it) can make their lives miserable for the next couple of years.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 16, 2025 01:44 PM (vzHjH)

77 62 Even if the Dems come clean about dementia denial, they still have the problem of whose bright idea was it to replace Biden with the blithering idiot (Retard-gate). That was an even bigger obvious blunder.
Posted by: Ripley at May 16, 2025 01:41 PM (GUOwU)

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I think the real answer is that they pushed Biden out with the plan of having an open convention which they could manage to get the result they wanted.

What that was specifically, I'm not sure (I remember rumors of Obama pushing Michelle, but rumors), but I'm certain they weren't planning on Kamala.

It was an effort to go around Kamala.

Which was...idiotic because how it played out was so fucking obvious. 4 months out from the general election, after the first debate and with the GOP settled, no one was going to wait around for the convention. They were eager to get it settled quickly, and Kamala used her position and name recognition to secure the delegates within a week.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 16, 2025 01:44 PM (GBKbO)

78 Hey, I got a fundraising email that Joe Biden signed and he seemed just fine.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 16, 2025 01:44 PM (Oq5OE)

79 Also, nail them on the pronoun thing and don't stop. If they still have pronouns in their bio, focus on that. If they took them out, ask them when they became "transphobes," or if they were just lying before.

Posted by: Eternity Matters at May 16, 2025 01:36 PM (yT7Wa)
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Satan's minion, Saul Alinsky, said it best: make the enemy live up to his own rules.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 16, 2025 01:44 PM (YqDXo)

80 I still don't understand how "honey, yes I lied to you but I promise to tell the truth now" isn't working.

And the response to it not working is, "let's move on to the work of the American people."

Would that be flying to Salvador to visit an illegal alien?
Or trying to bust illegal aliens out of ICE detention centers?
Or helping illegal aliens escape out the back door of the courtroom?

You lied to us for 4 years and now you want to help ... illegal aliens?
Are you sure you're not the ones also brain damaged?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 16, 2025 01:45 PM (M1WSs)

81 I still don’t know how people say Joe was impaired. When he spoke to me he seemed really smart and unburdened by what has been.

Posted by: Kamala Harris at May 16, 2025 01:45 PM (l3YAf)

82 Shouldn't be lo g, isn't iowas caucus next week for 2028?

Yes, but we won't have results until January 2029.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 16, 2025 01:45 PM (s8j++)

83 57 The DU bubble never fails to amaze me.
Posted by: Mike Hammer

Occasionally they have an interesting big of insight. That last comment, "They're laying ground for the hand-raising questions in a debate," seems pretty accurate.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 16, 2025 01:46 PM (ekm7d)

84 Notice they never name the six aside from Dr Jill?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 16, 2025 01:46 PM (F3OOo)

85 Which was...idiotic because how it played out was so fucking obvious. 4 months out from the general election, after the first debate and with the GOP settled, no one was going to wait around for the convention. They were eager to get it settled quickly, and Kamala used her position and name recognition to secure the delegates within a week.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 16, 2025 01:44 PM (GBKbO)
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Joe did his kamikaze impression by endorsing her, making it difficult for the Dems to shitcan her.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 16, 2025 01:46 PM (YqDXo)

86 None of this really matters if it was just Candidate Biden we're talking about.

The sitting president was a vegetable. Who is on the hook for determining that he was incapable, and subsequently removing him from office?

I'm pretty sure it's Congress. The House, specifically.

In a lesser, unofficial sense, it's "journalists", but we all know those don't exist anymore.

But that's where our ire should lie. Obviously the DNC or Biden's own crew weren't going to run around saying "holy shit this guy's a vegetable". It's the people who weren't directly in the employ of the president or his party who are to blame for this shit getting as bad as it was.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 16, 2025 01:46 PM (yvnLa)

87 74 Yeah you’re probably right, but they didn’t just rig the last one. They threw out the results and dropped in the guzzler.

Rule by elites is sort of their thing.
Posted by: Kratwurst at May 16, 2025 01:44 PM (fcDpY)

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No, they just didn't have a primary.

And then they did backroom stuff to force their incumbent president to back out after having won all of the delegates in the mock primary they did have.

It's a very different situation from actually having a primary.

Now, if you're predicting that the Democrat Party is going to completely cancel the primary and just crown whomever the elites want, that's something to argue. I don't believe it.

However, that primary is still going to happen, and you have to base their ability to rig primaries based on their history of rigging primaries, not 2024 which they just...undid.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 16, 2025 01:46 PM (GBKbO)

88 Again... why are they pushing this story in the news?
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Because the Trump wing of the opposition doesn't cooperate and let things die. They bring them up, they dig up evidence, they challenge them. They aren't your grandfather's roll over and rub my tummy GOP.

It is potentially an election issue next time around, and there is probably things destined to "come out" about it, so they have to do the old "we covered this, move on" gambit.

Posted by: ... at May 16, 2025 01:47 PM (mmeY7)

89 Oh, happy day!

Daily Caller headline:

"Trump Names Bishop Who Banned Pelosi from Communion to Religious Liberty Commission"

Posted by: mrp at May 16, 2025 01:47 PM (rj6Yv)

90 76 " 'Trust me, even though I got the 2024 election so terribly wrong?'" asked the former Rep. Joe Cunningham (D-S.C.), who said he expects the issue to come up on the trail in what is now the first-in-the-nation primary state. "There's no courage on display by any of the folks whose names are being circulated right now."

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 16, 2025 01:44 PM (vzHjH)

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Dude is a one-term House member (Nancy Mace has his seat now).

He's the most prominent Democrat anyone can talk to in SC?

That's hilarious.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 16, 2025 01:48 PM (GBKbO)

91 Easier said than done. How exactly, should this bud be nipped? Once they admit they didn't say anything about his disability before the debate, they'll need to explain why they never 25A'd him after the debate. Once they 'explain' that, they'll be asked 'who, then, was actually running the WH'. And then 'did Biden really sign all those pardons?' And so on.

How exactly does one say "sure, we lied to everyone for 4+ years, including the election results, but you should trust us now. It would be like Hitler saying "sure, the Russia invasion wasn't a great idea, but wait til you hear what I have in mind for 1946."

Posted by: Archimedes at May 16, 2025 01:48 PM (s8j++)

92 Howdy Ace, Horde

You gotta feel for those poor kids, you know. How could their lighthearted journey into treason go so badly?

Posted by: callsign claymore at May 16, 2025 01:48 PM (CG8Fj)

93 Joe did his kamikaze impression by endorsing her, making it difficult for the Dems to shitcan her.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 16, 2025 01:46 PM (YqDXo)

That old bastard screwed up everything he touched (including his daughter), but he got that one right. It was hilarious.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at May 16, 2025 01:48 PM (k9OZB)

94 "Trump Names Bishop Who Banned Pelosi from Communion to Religious Liberty Commission"

love Archbishop Cordileone

Posted by: kallisto at May 16, 2025 01:48 PM (dCxaZ)

95 I think the real answer is that they pushed Biden out with the plan of having an open convention which they could manage to get the result they wanted.

What that was specifically, I'm not sure (I remember rumors of Obama pushing Michelle, but rumors), but I'm certain they weren't planning on Kamala.

It was an effort to go around Kamala.

Which was...idiotic because how it played out was so fucking obvious. 4 months out from the general election, after the first debate and with the GOP settled, no one was going to wait around for the convention. They were eager to get it settled quickly, and Kamala used her position and name recognition to secure the delegates within a week.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 16, 2025 01:44 PM (GBKbO)
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That, and Biden himself responded to getting fucked off the stage by ... fucking his fuckers by immediately announcing Kamala as the new candidate. I don't think that was supposed to happen.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 16, 2025 01:48 PM (iFTx/)

96 85 Joe did his kamikaze impression by endorsing her, making it difficult for the Dems to shitcan her.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 16, 2025 01:46 PM (YqDXo)

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I think it would have played out the same way without Joe's endorsement.

It was general election season.

No one wanted to run a primary right then and there. They wanted it settled.

Kamala was the only option.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 16, 2025 01:49 PM (GBKbO)

97 What's the antonym? "Mud people?"
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 16, 2025 01:41 PM (YqDXo)
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"Sun people." Kind, loving, caring, community oriented, like Idi Amin.

Posted by: Maxwell Smart at May 16, 2025 01:44 PM (6YdsJ)
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Or Charles Taylor. "What ... er ... who is for lunch?"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 16, 2025 01:49 PM (YqDXo)

98 If they do start putting leftwing powerbrokers in jail a lot will change for the better.

But as of right now they believe they are untouchable - hell a significant portion of them are known pedophiles and...crickets.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 16, 2025 01:49 PM (t0Rmr)

99 50 Hakeem Jefferies is a nitwit who could only get elected in an urban area. His uncle Leonard Jefferies was a college professor who wanted about white supremacy and "ice people", and was a Sharpton ally. Keep talking Hakeem and by all means , push reparations
Posted by: Smell the Glove
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His name has come up in conjunction with Diddy's Commie Party throwback parties in NYC. Likes slim young Hispanics apparently.

Posted by: whig at May 16, 2025 01:49 PM (ctrM5)

100 "You said Joe Biden was fine" should be the opening line for any MSM interview done by Trump's admin.

"You said Joe Biden was fine. Now, on to the real estate numbers-I said, you said that Joe Biden was fine. Shut up while I talk to the American people. The real estate numbers show that...."

Posted by: pookysgirl knows how to handle this at May 16, 2025 01:49 PM (Wt5PA)

101 95 That, and Biden himself responded to getting fucked off the stage by ... fucking his fuckers by immediately announcing Kamala as the new candidate. I don't think that was supposed to happen.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 16, 2025 01:48 PM (iFTx/)

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I still can't imagine it playing out any other way than Kamala.

"Never mind the VP who's already going to be on the ticket. Here's an unpopular governor from CA instead."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 16, 2025 01:50 PM (GBKbO)

102 I think it would have played out the same way without Joe's endorsement.

It was general election season.

No one wanted to run a primary right then and there. They wanted it settled.

Kamala was the only option.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 16, 2025 01:49 PM (GBKbO)
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You may be right. I could see a zoom convention that anointed someone else pretty quickly, but you could be right.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 16, 2025 01:50 PM (YqDXo)

103 56 The Democrats' ability to rig their primary is...vastly overstated.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May

I think without Pelosi and her iron fist, things are going to get even crazier in Democratlandia. She is too old to rule like she was and her last act was booting Biden. She has to be losing it over Crockett.

Posted by: Piper at May 16, 2025 01:50 PM (pZEOD)

104 I’m not too invested in this, the truth is, if they forced Biden out, had a mini-primary, they would have probably nominated someone with enough plausible deniability and non-retard factor to make the election closer or G-d forbid, push over the line.

This all worked out for the best.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 16, 2025 01:50 PM (x+6RA)

105 Easier said than done. How exactly, should this bud be nipped? Once they admit they didn't say anything about his disability before the debate, they'll need to explain why they never 25A'd him after the debate. Once they 'explain' that, they'll be asked 'who, then, was actually running the WH'. And then 'did Biden really sign all those pardons?' And so on.

They told us Joe Biden didn't have the ability to run a political campaign but he was still fully able to of deciding whether to start WWIII or not

Posted by: 18-1 at May 16, 2025 01:51 PM (t0Rmr)

106 >>95
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That, and Biden himself responded to getting fucked off the stage by ... fucking his fuckers by immediately announcing Kamala as the new candidate. I don't think that was supposed to happen.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 16, 2025 01:48 PM (iFTx/)
"Dr" Jill, most likely

Posted by: teejuss at May 16, 2025 01:51 PM (5gQej)

107 Baby steps. First we get them to admit Biden was a meat puppet. Then we get them to admit to vote fraud and a coup in 2020.

Then the guillotines.

Baby steps.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 16, 2025 01:51 PM (xcxpd)

108 > Let's be honest, Biden didnt have access to the nuclear football.
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There's likely a lot of things *biden didn't have access to. Like the autopen. The defense department, state department, department of justice and all the rest.

The scary/sad thing is that nobody's likely to be held responsible for any of it. A 4 year run of the country by a faceless, unelected committee of bureaucrats and Democrat donors. Uncoordinated in anything. Just "winging it" for fun and profit.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 16, 2025 01:51 PM (Q4IgG)

109 It's not perfect, but you can judge your analytical ability by your predictive skills. Make your prediction and watch what happens. That will let you know if you're on the right track. You don't even have to prove it to anyone. Just prove it to yourself.

My prediction is the D nominee for 2028 is already known (barring some catastrophe) and it will not be a woman. It certainly will not be Kamala as bad as they want her. Cut and save this if you want to. But that's not my point. My point is if you want to know how well you're doing, make predictions if only to yourself.

Posted by: ... at May 16, 2025 01:51 PM (mmeY7)

110 93 Joe did his kamikaze impression by endorsing her, making it difficult for the Dems to shitcan her.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 16, 2025 01:46 PM (YqDXo)

That old bastard screwed up everything he touched (including his daughter), but he got that one right. It was hilarious.
Posted by: hobbitopoly
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Even when his intellect faded to a 10 watt bulb, his vicious and mean streak has endured. This time, it worked for good rather than evil.

Posted by: whig at May 16, 2025 01:51 PM (ctrM5)

111 That old bastard screwed up everything he touched (including his daughter), but he got that one right. It was hilarious.
Posted by: hobbitopoly at May 16, 2025 01:48 PM (k9OZB)

Supposedly that signature was not done by Autopen. I still think Kamala forged it while Joe was still incapacitated

Posted by: Kindltot at May 16, 2025 01:52 PM (D7oie)

112 I still can't imagine it playing out any other way than Kamala.

"Never mind the VP who's already going to be on the ticket. Here's an unpopular governor from CA instead."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 16, 2025 01:50 PM (GBKbO)
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But with the magic of the MSM (albeit much diminished now), Governor Brylcream could have been a viable candidate. Even Chlamydia didn't do THAT badly.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 16, 2025 01:52 PM (YqDXo)

113 Mark Hemingway
@Heminator

BTW, worth noting Comey's latest novel is about prosecuting a conservative commentator for speech:

"Garcia believes Buchanan went far beyond the protection of the First Amendment when he singled out his enemies by name and suggested 'something should be done' about them."

JOSEPH
@LogalboJos81314
The people who lied about Biden want government regulated speech to fight misinformation. Reminder, one year ago it would have been misinformation to say Biden had dementia

Posted by: redridinghood at May 16, 2025 01:52 PM (NpAcC)

114 "Pope Leo XIV declares that family is based upon a union between a man and a woman, and that the unborn have inherent dignity."

https://tinyurl.com/r2bzup28

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at May 16, 2025 01:52 PM (paSBy)

115 That, and Biden himself responded to getting fucked off the stage by ... fucking his fuckers by immediately announcing Kamala as the new candidate. I don't think that was supposed to happen.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 16, 2025 01:48 PM (iFTx/)

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I still can't imagine it playing out any other way than Kamala.

"Never mind the VP who's already going to be on the ticket. Here's an unpopular governor from CA instead."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 16, 2025 01:50 PM (GBKbO)
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Well, yea. But clearly the powers that be thought they could somehow thread the needle at a convention. And they were right: Kamala was, is, and always will be awful without any constituency other than guys she can blow for career advancement.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 16, 2025 01:52 PM (iFTx/)

116 I don't think Democrat primary voters care about this issue.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Apartheid Boer farmers, airplanes from Arabs, no reparations, grandma being pushed over the cliff in a wheelchair and dreamers not getting a hundred thousand per year in benefits will be the strong tidal wave of discontent that flips the house in 26, mark my words.

Posted by: Auspex at May 16, 2025 01:52 PM (j4U/Z)

117 It would be like Hitler saying "sure, the Russia invasion wasn't a great idea, but wait til you hear what I have in mind for 1946."

While I'm not a fan of his to say the least, I do approve of one killing Hitler orchestrated on 30 April 1945 in Berlin.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 16, 2025 01:53 PM (t0Rmr)

118 I shouldn't say "ability", it's more like understanding. Like everyone has theories about what goes on and the truth is none of us really know, so the best way to test that is to try and see the future.

Posted by: ... at May 16, 2025 01:53 PM (mmeY7)

119 Simple. Just pick a man's man like me to top the ticket in 28.

BTW... soooooo excited about the Preakness tomorrow, I get thirsty just thinking about it!

Posted by: TIM WALZ at May 16, 2025 01:53 PM (PjIB0)

120 The sitting president was a vegetable. Who is on the hook for determining that he was incapable, and subsequently removing him from office?

I'm pretty sure it's Congress. The House, specifically.

***

VP has to invoke 25th Amendment.

But, yeah, House and Senate GOP were in on the coverup.

Remember Mike Johnson announcing he was surprised Biden was forgetful *after* Trump was elected. Long after it ceased to matter.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 16, 2025 01:53 PM (l3YAf)

121 Our local radio station is still running a Ad Council commercial with that little creep Mayorkas saying "Stay safe. If you see something, say something".

This commercial has been running for several years. Well, we saw something and something was said, now something needs to be done.

Posted by: fd at May 16, 2025 01:53 PM (vFG9F)

122 103 56 The Democrats' ability to rig their primary is...vastly overstated.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May

I think without Pelosi and her iron fist, things are going to get even crazier in Democratlandia. She is too old to rule like she was and her last act was booting Biden. She has to be losing it over Crockett.
Posted by: Piper at May 16, 2025 01:50 PM (pZEOD)

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Democrats with Pelosi and Reid were formidable, made all the stronger by a weak-willed GOP.

Democrats with Jeffries and Schumer are...not, made all the worse by a strong-willed GOP (well, ish, it's not a universal strong-will).

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 16, 2025 01:53 PM (GBKbO)

123 Now, if you're predicting that the Democrat Party is going to completely cancel the primary and just crown whomever the elites want, that's something to argue.

I gave up predicting after 2015. It seems like each of the last three elections they’ve moved farther and farther away from letting their voters decide on the candidate, either in the primaries or general- the 2020 basement tour was maybe worse than the primary rigging. How do they stop?

Posted by: Kratwurst at May 16, 2025 01:54 PM (fcDpY)

124 The handy thing for the Dems about a zoom convention is that it wouldn't be on TV, so they could rig any way they wanted, and kinda like Vatican conclave, just emit white smoke to indicate they'd chosen a new candidate.

Who would know the machinations that went into that?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 16, 2025 01:54 PM (YqDXo)

125 114 "Pope Leo XIV declares that family is based upon a union between a man and a woman, and that the unborn have inherent dignity."

https://tinyurl.com/r2bzup28

what a relief to have such clarity after the term of Commander Word Salad Pope

Posted by: kallisto at May 16, 2025 01:54 PM (dCxaZ)

126 Still love Biden. Still think he's great.

No, that's not it. They know what he was, and is. This isn't about their opinion of him. This is about their refusal to admit they lied out their asses for the entirely of his term and before, and they're still lying, because they fear electoral oblivion if they admit to their crimes. I think they don't need to worry.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 16, 2025 01:43 PM (s8j++)

Absolutely correct. What the Republicans should do is to keep on asking about this for the next four years - at least as long as the MFM/Dems asked any Republican they could interview about what they thought of J6. If they could still hang that onto Republicans, you know that they would.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 16, 2025 01:54 PM (vzHjH)

127 Did the D's rely on 86'ing Trump as part of this year's planning? I'd say it's very possible, maybe highly likely. That head turn changed everything. Nikki Haley of the roll over and rub my tummy wing, wasn't going to beat Biden OR Kamala.

Posted by: ... at May 16, 2025 01:54 PM (mmeY7)

128 "the unborn have inherent dignity."

Uh oh.

Posted by: fd at May 16, 2025 01:54 PM (vFG9F)

129 My prediction is the D nominee for 2028 is already known (barring some catastrophe) and it will not be a woman. It certainly will not be Kamala as bad as they want her. Cut and save this if you want to. But that's not my point. My point is if you want to know how well you're doing, make predictions if only to yourself.
Posted by: ...
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For the most part, predictions this far out are not particularly useful. Lots can happen from events.

Predicting an open seat prezzie race aside from Vance being a serious competitor for the GOP nomination is sort of like predicting the Kentucky Derby four years hence when the race is run by three year olds.

Wait until about one year before 2028 elections.

Posted by: whig at May 16, 2025 01:55 PM (ctrM5)

130 112 But with the magic of the MSM (albeit much diminished now), Governor Brylcream could have been a viable candidate. Even Chlamydia didn't do THAT badly.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 16, 2025 01:52 PM (YqDXo)

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It's true. Kamala went from least popular VP in modern history to second coming of Rosa Parks.

But we're not talking about media narrative.

We're talking about movers and shakers trying to put a difficult and unprecedented situation behind them as fast and as bloodlessly as possible.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 16, 2025 01:55 PM (GBKbO)

131 I think it would have played out the same way without Joe's endorsement.

It was general election season.

No one wanted to run a primary right then and there. They wanted it settled.

Kamala was the only option.
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And no way they could have avoided a massive outrage from the black woman.
As many of us noted at the time, no way they accept any process, no matter how fair, that gave the nom to anyone else.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 16, 2025 01:55 PM (M1WSs)

132 Pope Leo XIV declares that family is based upon a union between a man and a woman, and that the unborn have inherent dignity."
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Whoa. I didn't know this guy was going to be so controversial. Oh wait.

Posted by: ... at May 16, 2025 01:55 PM (mmeY7)

133 115 Well, yea. But clearly the powers that be thought they could somehow thread the needle at a convention. And they were right: Kamala was, is, and always will be awful without any constituency other than guys she can blow for career advancement.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 16, 2025 01:52 PM (iFTx/)

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I think it was an Obama faction idea.

An the Obama faction is fucking terrible at politics.

They're genuinely awful.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 16, 2025 01:55 PM (GBKbO)

134 The thing to remember about Dem primary fraud is very few people actually vote themselves for Dems so it comes down to what fraud the local dem officials allow.

In a general election its all of it. In a primary things get tricky if one election worker belongs to the incumbent and another the challenger - they can each screw the other...

Posted by: 18-1 at May 16, 2025 01:55 PM (t0Rmr)

135 The handy thing for the Dems about a zoom convention is that it wouldn't be on TV, so they could rig any way they wanted, and kinda like Vatican conclave, just emit white smoke to indicate they'd chosen a new candidate.

Instead of white smoke, it would be an SBD.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 16, 2025 01:56 PM (s8j++)

136 You know who else uses seashells, but with the left hand only?

Posted by: Ciampino - that's right at May 16, 2025 01:56 PM (sPQoU)

137 On Thursday, Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro appeared to try to differentiate himself from other ambitious Democrats -- and put some distance between himself and Biden -- by maintaining he privately raised concerns with the former president in the moment.

We'll have to see if he survives the re-opening of the Ellen Greenberg case.

Posted by: night lifted at May 16, 2025 01:56 PM (FZn/N)

138 Absolutely correct. What the Republicans should do is to keep on asking about this for the next four years - at least as long as the MFM/Dems asked any Republican they could interview about what they thought of J6. If they could still hang that onto Republicans, you know that they would.
Posted by: Darrell Harris
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Or they can do their actual frigging jobs in Congress and pass the Trump agenda and stuff the courts.

But my prediction is they will do neither unless force majeure is employed against them.

Posted by: whig at May 16, 2025 01:56 PM (ctrM5)

139 The Democrats' ability to rig their primary is...vastly overstated.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Really?

2016; Hillary reportedly wins 6 of 6 tie breaking coin flips in the Iowa caucuses, then all references to the coin flip results are hidden and obscured from further review.

2020 delays Iowa Dem caucus results, again trying to stifle an apparent Bernie surge. Then, Dem leadership successfully eans on other candidates to drop out to drag Biden over the finish line as the only hope to stop Bernie.

In 2024, the make sure to have an historically early first presidential debate to showcase Biden's unfitness for office AFTER the primaries but early enough to force him out in a soft coup and attempt to select a successor.

Seems like they've had their thumb on the scale a lot recently, and been fairly successful at keeping out the candidates they don't want, at least.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at May 16, 2025 01:56 PM (ekm7d)

140 Wait until about one year before 2028 elections.
Posted by: whig at May 16, 2025 01:55 PM (ctrM5)

I wouldn't try to predict the Repub side although I do believe it will be Vance. The people pick the Republican.

Posted by: ... at May 16, 2025 01:56 PM (mmeY7)

141 Seeing reports that turncoat GOP reps have torpedoed the budget/spending cuts. Looking for a link.

Posted by: Black JEM at May 16, 2025 01:57 PM (GZYu7)

142 116 Apartheid Boer farmers, airplanes from Arabs, no reparations, grandma being pushed over the cliff in a wheelchair and dreamers not getting a hundred thousand per year in benefits will be the strong tidal wave of discontent that flips the house in 26, mark my words.
Posted by: Auspex at May 16, 2025 01:52 PM (j4U/Z)

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High propensity Boomer libs will surely come out and vote.

Like they do every election.

I'm far from sold on it being some sort of difference maker in 26, though. Too many other pieces in play.

Like federal grants (ie USAID) being cut off that were being used to prop up the progressive media ecosystem.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 16, 2025 01:57 PM (GBKbO)

143 3 Everything he "signed" should now be null and void
Posted by: It's me donna at May 16, 2025 01:29 PM (VE6XX)

This, we need verification that he knew what was being signed in his name... there should be documents in the White House showing he actually signed off on stuff.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 16, 2025 01:57 PM (mP0Kj)

144 the Catholic AWFLs I know were certain the new pope was going to "keep things moving forward"...aka they were expecting ordination of woman priests

Posted by: kallisto at May 16, 2025 01:57 PM (dCxaZ)

145 120 The sitting president was a vegetable. Who is on the hook for determining that he was incapable, and subsequently removing him from office?

I'm pretty sure it's Congress. The House, specifically.

***

VP has to invoke 25th Amendment.

But, yeah, House and Senate GOP were in on the coverup.

Remember Mike Johnson announcing he was surprised Biden was forgetful *after* Trump was elected. Long after it ceased to matter.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 16, 2025 01:53 PM (l3YAf)

Correctimundo!

Everyone knew. Kevin McCarthy had no problem telling the world that Biden was non compos mentis, well after he was defenestrated from leadership himself. Couldn't be bothered to let the rest of us know while he was Speaker, and certainly couldn't use that information to his advantage when he was negotiating against Biden, Pelosi & Co.

Do they seriously want us to believe that in WDC, the most gossipy town in all of America, Biden's mental state was not Topic#1 in all the watering holes around the Capitol? Pull my other one.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 16, 2025 01:58 PM (vzHjH)

146 Baby steps. First we get them to admit Biden was a meat puppet. Then we get them to admit to vote fraud and a coup in 2020.

Brain dead and absent Biden cannot have signed pardons...

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 16, 2025 01:58 PM (2VST1)

147
Tap, a-tap, a-tap
They call him the Tapper.
Tap, tap, tap,
you know what he's after!

Posted by: James T. at May 16, 2025 01:58 PM (0sNs1)

148 Bernie has a particular problem in winning contested primaries.

His supporters are the least knowledgeable and active people in Dem primaries.

So while he clearly got more votes then Hillary in the early primaries in 2016 she owned all the people counting the votes.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 16, 2025 01:58 PM (t0Rmr)

149 The scary/sad thing is that nobody's likely to be held responsible for any of it. A 4 year run of the country by a faceless, unelected committee of bureaucrats and Democrat donors. Uncoordinated in anything. Just "winging it" for fun and profit.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 16, 2025 01:51 PM (Q4IgG)

I've said it before and I'll say it again: The DC cabal got a taste for a puppet president and they won't give up the idea very soon.

Posted by: pookysgirl, prognosticating at May 16, 2025 01:58 PM (Wt5PA)

150 123 I gave up predicting after 2015. It seems like each of the last three elections they’ve moved farther and farther away from letting their voters decide on the candidate, either in the primaries or general- the 2020 basement tour was maybe worse than the primary rigging. How do they stop?
Posted by: Kratwurst at May 16, 2025 01:54 PM (fcDpY)

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2024 may have been crossing the Rubicon.

Or, it may be viewed as an extraordinary circumstance brought on by a sitting president doing what was best for the country and stepping aside without any sense of pride. Democrats definitely believe this one, by the way.

They'll easily be able to go back to primary rules, especially with their ability to cheat in the general election obvious curtailed. They have to maintain a patois of democracy still.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 16, 2025 01:58 PM (GBKbO)

151 DU's devotion to Biden is almost admirable.

Usually they stick to their marching orders.

Weird, though, that they never seem to call out Kamala for not defending the greatest president ever and shunning the nomination in deference to Joe.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 16, 2025 01:59 PM (KbCG3)

152 Biden himself responded to getting fucked off the stage by ... fucking his fuckers by immediately announcing Kamala as the new candidate. I don't think that was supposed to happen.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 16, 2025 01:48 PM (iFTx/)
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This is my take - he was bitter and poisoned everything as best he could.

By the way, I always appreciate the DU comments when they show up here. What is the website they come from? Thanks

Posted by: 496 at May 16, 2025 01:59 PM (GJwrO)

153 You may be right. I could see a zoom convention that anointed someone else pretty quickly, but you could be right.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 16, 2025 01:50 PM (YqDXo)

However it happened, it was beautiful.

A clear DEI candidate in near-peak anti-DEI sentiment. A candidate who got zero delegates in the prior primary who was deeply hated by men whose only claim to high office came from blowing some old guy. And then she proceeded to blow a billion of leftists' money (probably our USAID tax money), giving Trump a trifecta, the popular vote, and a mandate

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 16, 2025 01:59 PM (i24o9)

154 That, and Biden himself responded to getting fucked off the stage by ... fucking his fuckers by immediately announcing Kamala as the new candidate. I don't think that was supposed to happen.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 16, 2025 01:48 PM (iFTx/)
"Dr" Jill, most likely

Posted by: teejuss at May 16, 2025 01:51 PM (5gQej)
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That's my guess, too. Joe was too whacked-out to come up with something that brutal. "Dr." Jill, OTOH, I suspect detested Chlamydia and the DNC, and so put the bug in Joe's ear.

"They're trying to take away your ice cream. Here's how to get back at them."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 16, 2025 01:59 PM (YqDXo)

155 114 "Pope Leo XIV declares that family is based upon a union between a man and a woman, and that the unborn have inherent dignity."

https://tinyurl.com/r2bzup28
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Is the Pope Catholic?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 16, 2025 02:00 PM (Dv3i1)

156 141 Seeing reports that turncoat GOP reps have torpedoed the budget/spending cuts. Looking for a link.
Posted by: Black JEM at May 16, 2025 01:57 PM (GZYu7)

They did.. Doesn't matter anyway.. Republicans in the Senate said it's DOA...

Posted by: It's me donna at May 16, 2025 02:00 PM (VE6XX)

157 TP GradeEquivalent Muzzie
3-ply super

Posted by: Ciampino - that's right at May 16, 2025 02:00 PM (sPQoU)

158 127 Did the D's rely on 86'ing Trump as part of this year's planning? I'd say it's very possible, maybe highly likely. That head turn changed everything. Nikki Haley of the roll over and rub my tummy wing, wasn't going to beat Biden OR Kamala.
Posted by: ... at May 16, 2025 01:54 PM (mmeY7)

This cannot be overemphasized. Haley had the most delegates going into the Convention, after Trump. She would have been the nominee, and she would have willingly sacrificed herself to allow the Dems to win again. For her, there was no money in staying loyal to Trump.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 16, 2025 02:00 PM (vzHjH)

159 131 And no way they could have avoided a massive outrage from the black woman.
As many of us noted at the time, no way they accept any process, no matter how fair, that gave the nom to anyone else.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 16, 2025 01:55 PM (M1WSs)

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Let's be honest here:

Black women are only powerful in electoral politics because Democrats bend over backwards to appeal to them at every opportunity. They are, maybe, 6% of the electorate.

Is it because they are so important to blue city machine politics? Very possible.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 16, 2025 02:00 PM (GBKbO)

160 This is my take - he was bitter and poisoned everything as best he could.

By the way, I always appreciate the DU comments when they show up here. What is the website they come from? Thanks

Posted by: 496 at May 16, 2025 01:59 PM (GJwrO)

Democrat Undergound.

And for the record, I think it was likely Jill who poisoned it. Joe was braindead at the time.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 16, 2025 02:01 PM (i24o9)

161 Seeing reports that turncoat GOP reps have torpedoed the budget/spending cuts. Looking for a link.
Posted by: Black JEM at May 16, 2025 01:57 PM (GZYu7)

It’s a terrible bill. They’re right to demand more.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 16, 2025 02:01 PM (l3YAf)

162 The question about why they didn't apply the 25th to him raises some interesting questions about their party's feelings on race and sex.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 16, 2025 02:02 PM (lTGtQ)

163 I gave up predicting after 2015. It seems like each of the last three elections they’ve moved farther and farther away from letting their voters decide on the candidate, either in the primaries or general- the 2020 basement tour was maybe worse than the primary rigging. How do they stop?
Posted by: Kratwurst
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Dark money oligarchs are why the Dem process is so f*cked up. Soros purposefully picked Obama in 2008 to run against Killary.

The GOP dark money crowd are similarly set up which is why Jeb! raised so much money to win the nomination.

One way to diminish their power is to require the airwaves to allocate time for candidates and political parties cheap as a condition for their broadcasting license. Another is disclosure of the entire chain of dark money individual contributors for ads.

Posted by: whig at May 16, 2025 02:02 PM (ctrM5)

164 Let's be honest here:

Black women are only powerful in electoral politics because Democrats bend over backwards to appeal to them at every opportunity. They are, maybe, 6% of the electorate.

Is it because they are so important to blue city machine politics? Very possible.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 16, 2025 02:00 PM (GBKbO)

You don't bite the hand that feeds.

And you sure as shit don't piss off your mouthiest, most unaccountable supporters.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 16, 2025 02:02 PM (KbCG3)

165 139 2020 delays Iowa Dem caucus results, again trying to stifle an apparent Bernie surge. Then, Dem leadership successfully eans on other candidates to drop out to drag Biden over the finish line as the only hope to stop Bernie.

In 2024, the make sure to have an historically early first presidential debate to showcase Biden's unfitness for office AFTER the primaries but early enough to force him out in a soft coup and attempt to select a successor.

Seems like they've had their thumb on the scale a lot recently, and been fairly successful at keeping out the candidates they don't want, at least.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at May 16, 2025 01:56 PM (ekm7d)

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In my original comment, I do mention how they succeeded in 2016.

2020, they failed spectacularly to get any candidate they actually wanted. They had to settle on Biden. That's not a great rigging operation.

And the 2024 result wasn't through a primary, so I don't know why people bring it up unless you're arguing that Democrats will just cancel the 2028 primary.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 16, 2025 02:02 PM (GBKbO)

166 141 Seeing reports that turncoat GOP reps have torpedoed the budget/spending cuts. Looking for a link.
Posted by: Black JEM at May 16, 2025 01:57 PM (GZYu7)

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yeah, the committee vote failed.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 16, 2025 02:02 PM (GBKbO)

167 And no way they could have avoided a massive outrage from the black woman.

As many of us noted at the time, no way they accept any process, no matter how fair, that gave the nom to anyone else.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice

Speaking of that, anyone hear from David Hogg?

Posted by: rickb223 at May 16, 2025 02:03 PM (tI7cV)

168 My prediction is the D nominee for 2028 is already known...

Prediction? ~~Pain~~ Insane.

Posted by: Clubber Lang at May 16, 2025 02:03 PM (ekm7d)

169 "checks the right diversity" boxes is how the Democrats choose their nominee.
Because, their ideas are gold, they just need the right face.

Obama was the last time that worked in the general.

And that was 17 years ago.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 16, 2025 02:03 PM (M1WSs)

170 155 114 "Pope Leo XIV declares that family is based upon a union between a man and a woman, and that the unborn have inherent dignity."

https://tinyurl.com/r2bzup28
___

Is the Pope Catholic?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 16, 2025 02:00 PM (Dv3i1)

From now on I'm going to use, "Was the Pope born in Chicago?"

Posted by: Gref at May 16, 2025 02:03 PM (aBgBM)

171 Bad news for chocolate chip ice cream lovers...it's on its way OUT:

Author Matt Richtel, writing for The New York Times, observed in 2024 that the ice cream industry has been moving away from the flavor in recent years, a once-unthinkable shift brought about by changing consumer tastes. Thanks to a buffet of flavors and options, chocolate chip is now being perceived as passé—too boring to compete with eclectic ingredients and bombastic names like Cookie Two-Step.

“It’s not the worst, but it’s not that good,” one ice cream enthusiast, aged 8, told Richtel of chocolate chip—and also bemoaned the lack of cookies in the flavor.

Posted by: kallisto at May 16, 2025 02:03 PM (dCxaZ)

172 Is it because they are so important to blue city machine politics? Very possible.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 16, 2025 02:00 PM (GBKbO)

It could be because projecting that you actually give a shit about black women (even though you don't) is very important to unmarried white women, who are a much bigger chunk of the electorate.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 16, 2025 02:03 PM (yvnLa)

173 "So the former director of the FBI wants us to believe he just stumbled across some already-arranged seashells and didn’t know “86” could mean to kill someone?
That’s what he’s going with?"

I thought that someone had mentioned earlier that Comey has a book coming out quite soon. If so, it sounds like a "publicity stunt" to get attention from rabid TDS sufferers who then will buy his book, although I'm sure Comey would like to see Trump removed in some way.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 16, 2025 02:03 PM (nFq4j)

174 They did.. Doesn't matter anyway.. Republicans in the Senate said it's DOA...
Posted by: It's me donna at May 16, 2025 02:00 PM (VE6XX)

Senate GOP doesn’t seem to want to cut at all.

House GOP doesn’t want to cut much.

Once again we’re screwed by the Republican Party.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 16, 2025 02:04 PM (l3YAf)

175 Baby steps. First we get them to admit Biden was a meat puppet. Then we get them to admit to vote fraud and a coup in 2020.

~~Then the guillotines.~~ And then the murders began.
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FIFY, per AoSHQ Stylebook.

Posted by: Maxwell Smart at May 16, 2025 02:04 PM (6YdsJ)

176 Margarita Simonyan
@M_Simonyan
3h
Story has been making rounds that Ukrainians were outraged when Russia negotiators said that Ukrainian soldiers must leave the four new Russian regions as part of ceasefire, to which the Moscow delegation replied "Next time it will be five."

Now, our reporter in Istanbul got to ask the Russian side how it really went down:

"We didn't say five. We said eight."

Posted by: Kindltot at May 16, 2025 02:04 PM (D7oie)

177 cookies 'n cream ice cream has pushed chocolate chip ice cream out of its lofty position

Posted by: kallisto at May 16, 2025 02:04 PM (dCxaZ)

178 Off 86 sock!

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at May 16, 2025 02:04 PM (6YdsJ)

179 I thought that someone had mentioned earlier that Comey has a book coming out quite soon. If so, it sounds like a "publicity stunt" to get attention from rabid TDS sufferers who then will buy his book, although I'm sure Comey would like to see Trump removed in some way.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 16, 2025 02:03 PM (nFq4j)

If anyone has the right connections to trigger another attempt it's Comey.

Posted by: night lifted at May 16, 2025 02:04 PM (FZn/N)

180 Senate GOP doesn’t seem to want to cut at all.

House GOP doesn’t want to cut much.

Once again we’re screwed by the Republican Party.

The only way to get real cuts is to break it into separate bills for each part of the government. Save the most Dem friendly budget bills to the end and play hardball on those. Do you want 50% of HUD or 0%?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 16, 2025 02:05 PM (t0Rmr)

181 projecting that you actually give a shit about black women (even though you don't) is very important to unmarried white women, who are a much bigger chunk of the electorate.

Its the only reliable voting bloc the Democrats have left. Every election they get fewer black and jewish votes. But those dumb white college girls, guaranteed vote.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 16, 2025 02:05 PM (2VST1)

182 Listened to a long video last night about how the whole Russian Collusion conspiracy has vanished, not one indictment has come out of it.

Posted by: Skip at May 16, 2025 02:05 PM (ypFCm)

183 I wouldn't try to predict the Repub side although I do believe it will be Vance. The people pick the Republican.

Posted by: ... at May 16, 2025 01:56 PM (mmeY7)
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Vance/Rubio would be a good guess, I suspect.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 16, 2025 02:05 PM (YqDXo)

184 From now on I'm going to use, "Was the Pope born in Chicago?"
Posted by: Gref at May 16, 2025 02:03 PM (aBgBM)

As head of Italy, does that now mean deep dish is Officially Pizza?

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 16, 2025 02:05 PM (l3YAf)

185 I wonder if the Democrats had the same problem when Truman replaced FDR

Posted by: SMOD at May 16, 2025 02:06 PM (qtLKm)

186 love Archbishop Cordileone
Posted by: kallistoSalvatore Cordileone
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I believe that sort of reference is out of fashion. The contemporary reference would be 'Archbishop Salvatore'. I recall the first time that I saw a reference to a 'Bishop Fred'.

Nothing conveys moral authority like a title like 'Bishop Fred'. I also knew that my church was headed off the tracks when church publications began to refer to our minister as 'Pastor Rob'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 16, 2025 02:06 PM (XeU6L)

187 157
TP Grade Equivalent Muzzie
3-ply super seashell/conch scooper
2-ply rounded pebble
1-ply gravel with sharp edges

So don't pickup rounded pebbles in muzzie areas, you don't know where it's been.

What does a left-handed muzzie do? (are there LH muslims?)

Posted by: Ciampino - that's right, no left at May 16, 2025 02:06 PM (sPQoU)

188 "the party's Biden question needs to be "nipped in the bud" if Democrats want to reestablish trust with voters."

Look out! They're going to 86 him!

Posted by: Please Place The gp In The Bag at May 16, 2025 02:06 PM (t8CWH)

189 161 Seeing reports that turncoat GOP reps have torpedoed the budget/spending cuts. Looking for a link.
Posted by: Black JEM at May 16, 2025 01:57 PM (GZYu7)

It’s a terrible bill. They’re right to demand more.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 16, 2025 02:01 PM (l3YAf)

Perhaps they are, but the SALT Caucus are a bunch of idiots. SALT is a gift to them - they can go back to their districts and urge their constituents to put pressure on Blue State legislators to stop wasting their tax dollars. Do they seriously believe that taking care of the Dems that hate SALT would save them if a real Dem ran against them? Take the gift they were given and argue for local fiscal responsibility instead.

If there's any deal they should be cutting, it's to ask for a gradual increase in the SALT cap, with more coming if they are reelected to argue for more in front of a Republican Congress. They lose all leverage if they get everything they want now.

It's like they don't want to negotiate. Like I said, idiots.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 16, 2025 02:06 PM (vzHjH)

190 "We didn't say five. We said eight."

Traditionally the losing side in a war makes peace before they are completely defeated so that the winner makes more moderate demands.

Extending this war by years for no reason is likely to cost Ukraine. But in fairness the people in Eastern Ukraine voted for a government friendly with Russia, not one controlled by the EU anyway

Posted by: 18-1 at May 16, 2025 02:06 PM (t0Rmr)

191 But those dumb white college girls, guaranteed vote.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 16, 2025 02:05 PM (2VST1)

They dream about turning a violent gang member into their own little lap dog.

Posted by: night lifted at May 16, 2025 02:06 PM (FZn/N)

192 Thanks to a buffet of flavors and options, chocolate chip is now being perceived as passé—too boring to compete with eclectic ingredients and bombastic names like Cookie Two-Step.

Look like I came out with my ice cream cookery just in time…

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 16, 2025 02:07 PM (WC9SG)

193 Story has been making rounds that Ukrainians were outraged when Russia negotiators said that Ukrainian soldiers must leave the four new Russian regions as part of ceasefire, to which the Moscow delegation replied "Next time it will be five."

Now, our reporter in Istanbul got to ask the Russian side how it really went down:

"We didn't say five. We said eight."
Posted by: Kindltot

Next it's going to be "Leave? No one is leaving. They will be buried here".

Posted by: rickb223 at May 16, 2025 02:07 PM (tI7cV)

194 projecting that you actually give a shit about black women (even though you don't) is very important to unmarried white women, who are a much bigger chunk of the electorate.

Its the only reliable voting bloc the Democrats have left. Every election they get fewer black and jewish votes. But those dumb white college girls, guaranteed vote.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 16, 2025 02:05 PM (2VST1)
________________

"I need a protector and provider. (Looks around.) I guess it'll have to be the government."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 16, 2025 02:07 PM (YqDXo)

195 Or, it may be viewed as an extraordinary circumstance brought on by a sitting president doing what was best for the country and stepping aside without any sense of pride. Democrats definitely believe this one, by the way.

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I wonder if any of them have ever examined why the public wasn't as enamored with the whole "passing the torch" at the convention as they were?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 16, 2025 02:07 PM (M1WSs)

196 2020, they failed spectacularly to get any candidate they actually wanted. They had to settle on Biden. That's not a great rigging operation.

And the 2024 result wasn't through a primary, so I don't know why people bring it up unless you're arguing that Democrats will just cancel the 2028 primary.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

As I said, the Dem Party Leadership seems to have a pretty good track record of keeping OUT candidates they don't like (mostly Bernie). 2024 gets brought up because, even though it wasn't an actual primary, they were able to exert influence to force out the candidate they didn't want. A sitting president, no less, so in some ways, it shows immense power.

You are correct, so far, that there hasn't been any evidence they can get the candidate they WANT, but excluding people is still pretty powerful. If the GOP could do it, we wouldn't have Trump. Ever.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at May 16, 2025 02:07 PM (ekm7d)

197 Which was...idiotic because how it played out was so fucking obvious. 4 months out from the general election, after the first debate and with the GOP settled, no one was going to wait around for the convention. They were eager to get it settled quickly, and Kamala used her position and name recognition to secure the delegates within a week.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 16, 2025 01:44 PM (GBKbO)

Kamala didn't do crap. It was Biden's people using the trap card after getting forced out. Harris was *always* Bidens insurance against being sidelined or deposed. When the bluff was called, Biden set off the bomb.

The delegates were Biden's people, the coup didn't account that they would follow his lead. Ooops.

Even without Biden fixing it, there were serious logistic issues with Biden's war chest not being transferable to another candidate.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 16, 2025 02:07 PM (8avO+)

198 They dream about turning a violent gang member into their own little lap dog.

Posted by: night lifted at May 16, 2025 02:06 PM (FZn/N)
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Surely they've heard of Nicole Brown Simpson?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 16, 2025 02:08 PM (YqDXo)

199 cookies 'n cream ice cream has pushed chocolate chip ice cream out of its lofty position

Bubblegum was always my favorite, followed by pralines and cream.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 16, 2025 02:08 PM (2VST1)

200 think it was likely Jill who poisoned it. Joe was braindead at the time.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder,
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Agreed - she was surely more bitter than he was. I just think they jumped out in front and said 'It's her' before the ones with real power could craft their preferred way forward.

Posted by: 496 at May 16, 2025 02:08 PM (5FvuI)

201 After the planned obsolescence of grandpa Joe by design in 2024, it looks like the democrats will just stop holding primaries.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 16, 2025 02:09 PM (lTGtQ)

202 Surely they've heard of Nicole Brown Simpson?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 16, 2025 02:08 PM (YqDXo)

I'd hardly call Kato Kaelin a "violent gang member".

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 16, 2025 02:09 PM (yvnLa)

203 But those dumb white college girls, guaranteed vote.

Ask The Paolo.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at May 16, 2025 02:09 PM (SCwm0)

204 Surely they've heard of Nicole Brown Simpson?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 16, 2025 02:08 PM (YqDXo)

Just like Othello! How romantic!

Posted by: sighing college freshgirls at May 16, 2025 02:09 PM (FZn/N)

205 201 After the planned obsolescence of grandpa Joe by design in 2024, it looks like the democrats will just stop holding primaries.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 16, 2025 02:09 PM (lTGtQ)

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Big news.

I expect it to make the front page when they make it public.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 16, 2025 02:10 PM (GBKbO)

206 “It’s not the worst, but it’s not that good,” one ice cream enthusiast, aged 8, told Richtel of chocolate chip—and also bemoaned the lack of cookies in the flavor.
Posted by: kallisto at May 16, 2025 02:03 PM (dCxaZ)
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I have to agree with the 8-year-old kid here. Chocolate chip is pretty far down on my list of desirable flavors.

It's OK when nothing else is available and that's it.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 16, 2025 02:11 PM (7fElN)

207 155 114 "Pope Leo XIV declares that family is based upon a union between a man and a woman, and that the unborn have inherent dignity."

https://tinyurl.com/r2bzup28
___

Is the Pope Catholic?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 16, 2025 02:00 PM (Dv3i1)

Does he wear a funny hat?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 16, 2025 02:11 PM (N39Ws)

208 High propensity Boomer libs will surely come out and vote.

Like they do every election.

I'm far from sold on it being some sort of difference maker in 26, though. Too many other pieces in play.

Like federal grants (ie USAID) being cut off that were being used to prop up the progressive media ecosystem.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Not to be macabre but the oldest Baby Boomer is 79 today and would be 81 by the time of the next election in 2026. The youngest at 61 today and 63 in 2026 plus 65 in 2028. And I suspect the youngest boomers vote more like Gen X probably due to no memories of JFK, Vietnam, or Nixon/Ford other than background noise.

Gen X plus the youngest Boomers will probably be the largest voting cohort in 2026 by numbers and probably still in 2028 as voting rates start to decline when people enter their 70's. Millennials will start replacing Gen X and younger Boomers by the 2030's

Posted by: whig at May 16, 2025 02:11 PM (ctrM5)

209 205. The certainly banned RFKJr

Posted by: night lifted at May 16, 2025 02:11 PM (FZn/N)

210 I want to try plain ice cream once. No vanilla, just egg, cream, sugar, pinch of salt, whatever else goes in there, and freeze it up in that churney doodad.

Wifey is into making ice cream. I don't think she'll make a whole batch just to satisfy my dumb whims, though.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 16, 2025 02:11 PM (yvnLa)

211 Is it because they are so important to blue city machine politics? Very possible.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 16, 2025 02:00 PM (GBKbO)

You don't bite the hand that feeds.

And you sure as shit don't piss off your mouthiest, most unaccountable supporters.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer
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Who else is brazen enough to mark down 1000 votes for the Dem in a ballot box of 10 ballots with the precinct going 99% for the Dem?

Even when caught on video running the same stack of ballots through the counter multiple times, they got a multi-million dollar judgement in their favor.

Can you imagine the weak-kneed, lily-white GOPe judges ever, ever, ever ruling against a black woman precinct chair? No matter how fraudulent the vote?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 16, 2025 02:11 PM (M1WSs)

212 Still laughing at Comey.

Posted by: wth at May 16, 2025 02:12 PM (v0R5T)

213 Chocolate chip cookies are my favorite, the classic tollhouse kind, warm and slightly gooey....mmm!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 16, 2025 02:12 PM (xcxpd)

214 ..You are correct, so far, that there hasn't been any evidence they can get the candidate they WANT, but excluding people is still pretty powerful. If the GOP could do it, we wouldn't have Trump. Ever.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at May 16, 2025 02:07 PM (ekm7d)

Absolutely. And the GOP still doesn't want Trump. Even though they owe him everything.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 16, 2025 02:12 PM (vzHjH)

215 Only two months until I can have cookies again.
In "moderation"

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 16, 2025 02:12 PM (xcxpd)

216 The delegates were Biden's people, the coup didn't account that they would follow his lead. Ooops.

Even without Biden fixing it, there were serious logistic issues with Biden's war chest not being transferable to another candidate.
Posted by: Oldcat
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Yep. Both you and TJM are correct.

Posted by: whig at May 16, 2025 02:12 PM (ctrM5)

217 bombastic names like Cookie Two-Step.

Like a Montezuma two-step?

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at May 16, 2025 02:12 PM (SCwm0)

218 Extending this war by years for no reason is likely to cost Ukraine. But in fairness the people in Eastern Ukraine voted for a government friendly with Russia, not one controlled by the EU anyway
Posted by: 18-1 at May 16, 2025 02:06 PM (t0Rmr)

I don't see any possibility that Odessa and the Black Sea Coast isn't held by Russia either de facto or completely. Its Russian, and that port can't be let fall into hostile NATO hands. Perhaps a fig leaf 'independence' or open city could be tried, but defense would be Russian.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 16, 2025 02:12 PM (8avO+)

219 I'm going to start a "Draft Biden 2028" campaign.

"Biden. Make 81 Million Ballots Count Again."

"Biden. As Vigorous as Ever."

"Biden. Time to Finish you know, the Thing."

"Biden. Even Less Malarkey. Word as a Biden."

"The New Biden. Tanned, Rested and Ready."

"Biden. Kid-in-a-Canoe and Showering Ashley Too."

"No Joke, Whip Inflation Now, Jack."

Posted by: Minuteman at May 16, 2025 02:13 PM (47/pr)

220 Lawler from Westchester is talking about running for governor on NY. He thinks increasing the SALT deduction will play well for him in NYS. The Trump Republicans will tell him to eff himself and the Dems will ignore him . He's appealing to a very narrow group. He crowed about NYS Rep congressman putting the Rs in charge but he hasn't done a damn thing himself.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 16, 2025 02:13 PM (2ZThz)

221 Gen X plus the youngest Boomers will probably be the largest voting cohort in 2026 by numbers and probably still in 2028 as voting rates start to decline when people enter their 70's. Millennials will start replacing Gen X and younger Boomers by the 2030's
Posted by: whig at May 16, 2025 02:11 PM (ctrM5)

I thought that Millennials were a -massive- cohort, bigger than Boomers or Gen X by far, and are all voting age already. How are they not in the lead? Lower registration rates?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 16, 2025 02:13 PM (yvnLa)

222 Rejected names for Charlie McCarthy sidekicks: "Churney Doodad."

Posted by: Please Place The gp In The Bag at May 16, 2025 02:13 PM (t8CWH)

223 Even without Biden fixing it, there were serious logistic issues with Biden's war chest not being transferable to another candidate.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 16, 2025 02:07 PM (8avO+)

They spent six figures to construct a set to speak to some slut podcaster, but wouldn't come within 100 miles of speaking with Joe Rogan.

Money warn't the problem.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 16, 2025 02:14 PM (KbCG3)

224 Absolutely. And the GOP still doesn't want Trump. Even though they owe him everything.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 16, 2025 02:12 PM (vzHjH)

MAGA is the GOP. GOPe are just a few insurgent holdouts.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 16, 2025 02:14 PM (8avO+)

225 Yikes.. Got my blood work back Blood sugar numbers are way too high.... Back to low carb for me...

Posted by: It's me donna at May 16, 2025 02:14 PM (VE6XX)

226 Only two months until I can have cookies again.
In "moderation"

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

As my grandfather used to say "Everything in moderation. Including moderation."

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 16, 2025 02:14 PM (lTGtQ)

227 I'm going to start a "Draft Biden 2028" campaign.

It would be funny to get Biden on the general election ballot in some states in 2028.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 16, 2025 02:14 PM (WC9SG)

228 206 “It’s not the worst, but it’s not that good,” one ice cream enthusiast, aged 8, told Richtel of chocolate chip—and also bemoaned the lack of cookies in the flavor.
Posted by: kallisto at May 16, 2025 02:03 PM (dCxaZ)
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I have to agree with the 8-year-old kid here. Chocolate chip is pretty far down on my list of desirable flavors.

It's OK when nothing else is available and that's it.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 16, 2025 02:11 PM (7fElN)

Yep. But then there is Blue Bell MINT Chocolate Chip! It's been my favorite flavor for a long time. If I can't find that I'll usually buy plain vanilla or chocolate. Blue Bell. Sold in all grocery and drug stores along with most convenience stores in my corner of Texas.

Posted by: Gref at May 16, 2025 02:16 PM (aBgBM)

229 It would be funny to get Biden on the general election ballot in some states in 2028.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 16, 2025 02:14 PM (WC9SG)
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Especially if he's dead.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at May 16, 2025 02:16 PM (6YdsJ)

230 If you want to play with the Dems, get a "Democrat Party" on the ballot.

Remember they claim they are the "Democratic Party". A significant portion of the Dem voter base just votes straight D...so a bunch of their votes would go to the "Democrat Party" assuming the ballot counters don't "fix" those ballots.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 16, 2025 02:16 PM (t0Rmr)

231

EM' SHRIMP GUMBO FOADDY-SEBUN!1!!1!

Posted by: Maxine Waters' Hair at May 16, 2025 02:16 PM (5hfjS)

232 They spent six figures to construct a set to speak to some slut podcaster, but wouldn't come within 100 miles of speaking with Joe Rogan.

Money warn't the problem.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 16, 2025 02:14 PM (KbCG3)

That was Kamala after the investment. By law if Biden pulled out that entire amount would have had to be returned to the donors, and the new candidate would have to re-raise that cash. Not easy.

They used the fact that the donations were to Biden Harris to not return anything...and then Harris' staff or she herself blew the money.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 16, 2025 02:16 PM (8avO+)

233 Just appealing to the 81 million voters last time would pull in a bunch of DU types. They're convinced it was all real

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 16, 2025 02:16 PM (2VST1)

234 Especially if he's dead.

He’s not dead. It’s all a Republican deep fake.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 16, 2025 02:16 PM (WC9SG)

235 I have to agree with the 8-year-old kid here. Chocolate chip is pretty far down on my list of desirable flavors.

It's OK when nothing else is available and that's it.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

Try coconut chocolate chip, or banana chocolate chip, or chocolate chocolate chip.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 16, 2025 02:17 PM (lTGtQ)

236 I'm going to start a "Draft Biden 2028" campaign.

"Biden. Make 81 Million Ballots Count Again."

"Biden. As Vigorous as Ever."

"Biden. Time to Finish you know, the Thing."

"Biden. Even Less Malarkey. Word as a Biden."

"The New Biden. Tanned, Rested and Ready."

"Biden. Kid-in-a-Canoe and Showering Ashley Too."

"No Joke, Whip Inflation Now, Jack."

Posted by: Minuteman at May 16, 2025 02:13 PM (47/pr)

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"F. Joe 2028 -- The Dementia Is Only Transitory!"

Posted by: ShainS -- Whites Have No Home Here! at May 16, 2025 02:17 PM (Efvay)

237 226 Only two months until I can have cookies again.
In "moderation"

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

As my grandfather used to say "Everything in moderation. Including moderation."
Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 16, 2025 02:14 PM (lTGtQ)

#Wisdom

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 16, 2025 02:17 PM (xcxpd)

238 If you want to play with the Dems, get a "Democrat Party" on the ballot.

Remember they claim they are the "Democratic Party". A significant portion of the Dem voter base just votes straight D...so a bunch of their votes would go to the "Democrat Party" assuming the ballot counters don't "fix" those ballots.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 16, 2025 02:16 PM (t0Rmr)

We don't need stupid tricks, we need to stop allowing them to cheat every election, and contend in all the districts. Don't let them concentrate on a couple seats to steal.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 16, 2025 02:18 PM (8avO+)

239 Best store ice cream I've had:

Tillamook dark chocolate cookies and cream

Posted by: 18-1 at May 16, 2025 02:18 PM (t0Rmr)

240 201 After the planned obsolescence of grandpa Joe by design in 2024, it looks like the democrats will just stop holding primaries.
Posted by: Thomas Paine

But producing fraudulent votes is their only real talent.

Posted by: Auspex at May 16, 2025 02:18 PM (j4U/Z)

241 >>Only two months until I can have cookies again.
In "moderation

The little bakery, up the road here, makes the most amazing Shortbread Cookies.

I stop by and see those ladies altogether too many times a week.

Posted by: garrett at May 16, 2025 02:18 PM (BUf8Q)

242 "F. Joe 2028 -- The Dementia Is Only Transitory!"

Posted by: ShainS -- Whites Have No Home Here! at May 16, 2025 02:17 PM (Efvay)
________________

"I got better!"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 16, 2025 02:19 PM (YqDXo)

243 Its the only reliable voting bloc the Democrats have left. Every election they get fewer black and jewish votes. But those dumb white college girls, guaranteed vote.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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Even there, I think the percentage of college bound females is shrinking due to escalating costs and ending of the Biden era no payment needed student loans. Simply put, the female sex is discovering the same thing that males did economically in the 2010-2024 era. Massive debt to get college degrees affects one's ability to have a life beyond college.

And college under the Woke puritans is a helluva lot less fun and games than in the 80's and 90's.

Posted by: whig at May 16, 2025 02:19 PM (ctrM5)

244 moderation = torture

Posted by: wth at May 16, 2025 02:19 PM (v0R5T)

245 Best store ice cream I've had:

Tillamook dark chocolate cookies and cream

Posted by: 18-1 at May 16, 2025 02:18 PM (t0Rmr)

Häagen-Dazs Vanilla, with Ghirardelli caramel sauce. There is no other.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 16, 2025 02:19 PM (i24o9)

246 243 Even there, I think the percentage of college bound females is shrinking due to escalating costs and ending of the Biden era no payment needed student loans. Simply put, the female sex is discovering the same thing that males did economically in the 2010-2024 era. Massive debt to get college degrees affects one's ability to have a life beyond college.

And college under the Woke puritans is a helluva lot less fun and games than in the 80's and 90's.
Posted by: whig at May 16, 2025 02:19 PM (ctrM5)

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College educated females went from 19% of the electorate in 2020 to 17% of the electorate in 2024.

It's a shrinking demo.

And I see no reason why it should change in the near future. College sucks, and more and more people have come to accept that as reality.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 16, 2025 02:20 PM (GBKbO)

247 Absolutely. And the GOP still doesn't want Trump. Even though they owe him everything.
Posted by: Darrell Harris

Trump was right! We're tired of all the winning! We're trying to slow it down, but it isn't working!!!

Posted by: GOPe Holdouts at May 16, 2025 02:20 PM (ekm7d)

248 Seeing a lot of breached protocol here.

It's 'Leader Jefferies'. Not sure if anyone caught his little dust up with Ted Cruz on X a few weeks ago about Maryland human smuggler man.

Posted by: Nelly at May 16, 2025 02:20 PM (cHLus)

249 There are only two constituent groups left in the Dem Party that can win a plurality:

Black women and AWFLs.
And they firmly believe the only reason Kamala lost was racism and sexism.

Who they like is who will win the nomination in 2028.

It will not be a Bill Clinton type or centrist.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 16, 2025 02:21 PM (M1WSs)

250 I can't recall the last time I bought ice cream, been making it for years. No preservatives, and I can make all kinds of flavors.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 16, 2025 02:21 PM (lTGtQ)

251 Democrats beginning to fear ? Until their fear rises to the level that they soil themselves , they aren't frightened nearly enough.

Posted by: Edward at May 16, 2025 02:21 PM (93DJn)

252 How rich do you have to be to pay $30k in state income tax? Jeebus tiddy-fooking Christ.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 16, 2025 02:21 PM (wBaIH)

253 Point of order, hasn't this "conspiracy of deception" actually been going on since at least the 2016 election with Hillary?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 16, 2025 02:21 PM (B9Prs)

254 249 There are only two constituent groups left in the Dem Party that can win a plurality:

Black women and AWFLs.
And they firmly believe the only reason Kamala lost was racism and sexism.

Who they like is who will win the nomination in 2028.

It will not be a Bill Clinton type or centrist.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 16, 2025 02:21 PM (M1WSs)

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And this will probably represent the majority of Democrat primary voters in 2028.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 16, 2025 02:21 PM (GBKbO)

255 Even there, I think the percentage of college bound females is shrinking due to escalating costs and ending of the Biden era no payment needed student loans. Simply put, the female sex is discovering the same thing that males did economically in the 2010-2024 era. Massive debt to get college degrees affects one's ability to have a life beyond college.

And college under the Woke puritans is a helluva lot less fun and games than in the 80's and 90's.

Posted by: whig at May 16, 2025 02:19 PM (ctrM5)
_______________

And HR positions have all now pretty much been filled, so graduating with a bogus degree = becoming a barista.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 16, 2025 02:21 PM (YqDXo)

256 The amusing thing about college is outside of specific fields, where you really did learn something in college, the value of a generic degree went down as more people got them.

And of course less and less information was imparted on college students as time went on anyway.

I suspect a fraction of current Harvard students could pass a Harvard course from the 60s.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 16, 2025 02:21 PM (t0Rmr)

257 It's 'Leader Jefferies'.
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Sounds better in the original German.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at May 16, 2025 02:22 PM (6YdsJ)

258 Its the only reliable voting bloc the Democrats have left. Every election they get fewer black and jewish votes. But those dumb white college girls, guaranteed vote.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 16, 2025 02:05 PM (2VST1)
________________

Problem is the Dumb White College Girl vote is in places they already own.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 16, 2025 02:22 PM (8avO+)

259 Häagen-Dazs Vanilla, with Ghirardelli caramel sauce. There is no other.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon
.....

My Grandkids like Häagen-Dazs strawberry and chocolate, so I have to keep both on hand.

Posted by: wth at May 16, 2025 02:22 PM (v0R5T)

260 There are only two constituent groups left in the Dem Party that can win a plurality:

Black women and AWFLs.
_______________

Both of whom have an unenviable record of performance in office.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 16, 2025 02:22 PM (YqDXo)

261 CA has something like a top 12% tax rate.

So yes you'd be rich to owe 30K but not as rich as you might think...

Posted by: 18-1 at May 16, 2025 02:23 PM (t0Rmr)

262 Absolutely. And the GOP still doesn't want Trump. Even though they owe him everything.
Posted by: Darrell Harris

Trump was right! We're tired of all the winning! We're trying to slow it down, but it isn't working!!!
Posted by: GOPe Holdouts at May 16, 2025 02:20 PM (ekm7d)
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Of course "grandstander" Chip Roy helped to kill the bill.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 16, 2025 02:23 PM (NpAcC)

263 And college under the Woke puritans is a helluva lot less fun and games than in the 80's and 90's.

Yeah, that has to be true. I cannot imagine, it would be like going to a college run by strict Benedictine nuns, but arbitrary ones who care less about your soul than their feelings of moral superiority.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 16, 2025 02:23 PM (2VST1)

264
Seems like they've had their thumb on the scale a lot recently, and been fairly successful at keeping out the candidates they don't want, at least.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at May 16, 2025 01:56 PM (ekm7d)

———

RFKjr is HHS Secretary now because the Dems rigged the 2024 primary against him.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 16, 2025 02:23 PM (qecxw)

265 262 Of course "grandstander" Chip Roy helped to kill the bill.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 16, 2025 02:23 PM (NpAcC)

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The CR grift is just too good to ever end.

Trump should be ready to shut down the government for months.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 16, 2025 02:23 PM (GBKbO)

266 Try coconut chocolate chip, or banana chocolate chip, or chocolate chocolate chip.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 16, 2025 02:17 PM (lTGtQ)

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My favorite ice cream aa a kid was mint chocolate chip.

Posted by: ShainS -- Whites Have No Home Here! at May 16, 2025 02:24 PM (KIX/x)

267 "F. Joe 2028 -- The Dementia Is Only Transitory!"

"Biden - Dementia Is Ended, Dude! (DIED)

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 16, 2025 02:24 PM (WPL6O)

268 "I got better!"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 16, 2025 02:19 PM (YqDXo)

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lolol

Posted by: ShainS -- Whites Have No Home Here! at May 16, 2025 02:24 PM (KIX/x)

269 Our only hope is that James Comey's "Go" signal is received by one of our many "known to law enforcements" in therapy and receiving drugs.

Posted by: Dems at May 16, 2025 02:24 PM (IxaHo)

270 I thought that Millennials were a -massive- cohort, bigger than Boomers or Gen X by far, and are all voting age already. How are they not in the lead? Lower registration rates?
Posted by: Warai-otoko
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Yep. Lower voting registration (primarily a mobility issue) and a bit lower voting right than the prime demographic of 40-65 or so. Plus they are in the peak geographic mobility stage and trying to start families. The usual pattern is once out of the 18-29 year old lowest voting cohort, the 30-44 begins a steep climb in voting due to home ownership, decreased mobility (which requires reregistration), and often means moving from the cities to suburbs where voting becomes the norm due to local taxes as well as schools.

Bit too lazy to look up current figures as my research on mobilization dates to the 00's but not much reason to assume a different behavior from the past Greatest, Silent, Boomer, Gen X, early Millenials in voter mobilization research.

Posted by: whig at May 16, 2025 02:24 PM (ctrM5)

271 "Whip ~~Inflation~~ Dementia Now!"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 16, 2025 02:25 PM (YqDXo)

272 And college under the Woke puritans is a helluva lot less fun and games than in the 80's and 90's.

On a regular basis I see some college athlete accused of regret-rape that they will eventually be cleared of but not before their lives become hell.

And in fairness on the same cycle I see stories about rape-rape that the college admin hushes up because its from a protected group.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 16, 2025 02:25 PM (t0Rmr)

273 "Biden - Dementia Is Ended, Dude! (DIED)

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 16, 2025 02:24 PM (WPL6O)

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Nice!

Posted by: ShainS -- Whites Have No Home Here! at May 16, 2025 02:25 PM (KIX/x)

274 Even there, I think the percentage of college bound females is shrinking due to escalating costs and ending of the Biden era no payment needed student loans. Simply put, the female sex is discovering the same thing that males did economically in the 2010-2024 era. Massive debt to get college degrees affects one's ability to have a life beyond college.

And college under the Woke puritans is a helluva lot less fun and games than in the 80's and 90's.
Posted by: whig at May 16, 2025 02:19 PM (ctrM5)

And even today a lot of women go to college to find eligible men. As the men opt out of college it won't be the place to find one.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 16, 2025 02:25 PM (8avO+)

275 Of course "grandstander" Chip Roy helped to kill the bill.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 16, 2025 02:23 PM (NpAcC)

Because the bill doesn’t do enough.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 16, 2025 02:25 PM (l3YAf)

276 My favorite ice cream aa a kid was mint chocolate chip.

Always reliable as a winner. Not as good as bubble gum but still great. They banned bubble gum ice cream around here for years, something about a choking hazard or some dumb crap. Now I can't eat it any more heh

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 16, 2025 02:25 PM (2VST1)

277 "F. Joe 2028 -- The Dementia Is Only Transitory!"

Posted by: ShainS -- Whites Have No Home Here! at May 16, 2025 02:17 PM (Efvay)

"F. Joe 2028 -- But I'm Not Dead Yet!"

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 16, 2025 02:25 PM (i24o9)

278
Eh, I think a lot of Democrat "cowardice" regarding Biden is that-

it's just beginning to dawn on them that several of them might be criminally liable for running a "soft" coup on the American people.

None of the people around Biden had been elected to the office of the Presidency by the American people. None of them had the right to make policy by usurping the power of the Executive.

That includes Dr Jill.

Given the damaging nature of Their Illegal and UnConstitutional Governance they should be arrested, tried, and if convicted, executed.

While I doubt this would actually happen, it almost certainly should.

The Dims involved in the coup and cover-up are being legally cautious.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 16, 2025 02:26 PM (iJfKG)

279 Trump's fiery six-word response to James Comey's instagram post

https://mol.im/a/14719809

Posted by: Ciampino - that's right, no left at May 16, 2025 02:26 PM (sPQoU)

280 The CR grift is just too good to ever end.

Yeah between corrupt GOPe congressmen and a weak leadership that won't use the power of their position, there's no chance.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 16, 2025 02:26 PM (2VST1)

281 It's 'Leader Jefferies'.
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Sounds better in the original German.
Posted by: Captain Obvious

Mein Furher?

Posted by: rickb223 at May 16, 2025 02:26 PM (tI7cV)

282 RFKjr is HHS Secretary now because the Dems rigged the 2024 primary against him.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 16, 2025 02:23 PM (qecxw)

He's there because Trump wants to solve problems and doesn't care about who gets credit.

That the dems drove him there is hilarious.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 16, 2025 02:27 PM (KbCG3)

283 Jasmine Crockett mocked DJ Daniel, the black kid who's an honorary Border Patrol agent, and he said she couldn't possibly be making fun of his looks because her head looks like a burnt marshmallow. LOL!

https://tinyurl.com/2r5hnc2x

Posted by: Ian S. at May 16, 2025 02:27 PM (2ocoG)

284 I don't see any possibility that Odessa and the Black Sea Coast isn't held by Russia either de facto or completely. Its Russian, and that port can't be let fall into hostile NATO hands. Perhaps a fig leaf 'independence' or open city could be tried, but defense would be Russian.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 16, 2025 02:12 PM (8avO+)

There is speculations that Hungary is going to take Transcarpathia in the East, and the Romanians have a section that is ethnically Rom. I would not be surprised if Poland decided that it was due Lvov again.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 16, 2025 02:27 PM (D7oie)

285 Yeah, that has to be true. I cannot imagine, it would be like going to a college run by strict Benedictine nuns, but arbitrary ones who care less about your soul than their feelings of moral superiority.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Worse, as your fellow students are willing to narc and shop you for badthink for any reason whatsoever. And the professors are cowed by it too. Those who have the power in the modern university are the woke zealots and the administrators that empower them and use them as proxies to attack disfavored students and faculty members.

Posted by: whig at May 16, 2025 02:27 PM (ctrM5)

286 Trump's fiery six-word response to James Comey's instagram post

https://mol.im/a/14719809
Posted by: Ciampino

Come at me, bro. You pussy!

Posted by: rickb223 at May 16, 2025 02:27 PM (tI7cV)

287 Apple Pay is DOWN across the US as users report issues with purchases

https://mol.im/a/14720559

Posted by: Ciampino - USE PEARS at May 16, 2025 02:27 PM (sPQoU)

288 That the dems drove him there is hilarious.

As HHS Sec he is saying the same things today he got kudos for 10 years ago. But now he's an evil reich winger white supremacist.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 16, 2025 02:27 PM (t0Rmr)

289 The CR grift is just too good to ever end.

Trump should be ready to shut down the government for months.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Uhm...the security programs I run are all low on funds, which are held back awaiting a budget bill. The GOP theoretically has all three branches of government...can't we pass something meaningful?

Or am I going to again see the GOP fundraisers saying to donate to increase our majority to ensure our legislation possess despite tunrcoats.

Posted by: Military Moron at May 16, 2025 02:28 PM (JCZqz)

290 New thread - Tulsi Gabbard firing Deep Staters - NOOD

Posted by: gdgm+ at May 16, 2025 02:28 PM (FyLCZ)

291 Those who have the power in the modern university are the woke zealots and the administrators that empower them and use them as proxies to attack disfavored students and faculty members.

There does seem to be some hope that its receding, though. Stanford president has arrested protesters and is refusing to give in to ludicrous demands.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 16, 2025 02:28 PM (2VST1)

292 "Whip ~~Inflation~~ Dementia Now!"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 16, 2025 02:25 PM (YqDXo)

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Another good one!

"Right after I cure cancer, fat ..."

Posted by: ShainS -- Whites Have No Home Here! at May 16, 2025 02:29 PM (KIX/x)

293 289 Uhm...the security programs I run are all low on funds, which are held back awaiting a budget bill. The GOP theoretically has all three branches of government...can't we pass something meaningful?

Or am I going to again see the GOP fundraisers saying to donate to increase our majority to ensure our legislation possess despite tunrcoats.
Posted by: Military Moron at May 16, 2025 02:28 PM (JCZqz)

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It is more important to keep spending TARP funds than anything else.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 16, 2025 02:29 PM (GBKbO)

294 One of Chip Roy’s demands is that the bill should ban illegals from getting Federal aid.

What a crazy idea, right? Gotta keep taxpayer money going to illegals, like Mikey Johnson wants!

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 16, 2025 02:29 PM (l3YAf)

295 Yikes.. Got my blood work back Blood sugar numbers are way too high.... Back to low carb for me...
Posted by: It's me donna at May 16, 2025 02:14 PM (VE6XX)

If the low carb is not working, you could try berberine. I found it helpful.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 16, 2025 02:29 PM (D7oie)

296 Trump's fiery six-word response to James Comey's instagram post

https://mol.im/a/14719809

Posted by: Ciampino - that's right, no left at May 16, 2025 02:26 PM (sPQoU)

Of course he knew. He's smart enough to know and know that there would be plausible deniability. He is not smart enough to know that people smarter than him would call him out for his BS.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 16, 2025 02:29 PM (i24o9)

297 And even today a lot of women go to college to find eligible men. As the men opt out of college it won't be the place to find one.
Posted by: Oldcat
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Back when my college (and others) suddenly created a football team to waste money and suck up resources, the reason they gave to faculty was to attract more male students (even if they failed) because both females and males rated a college less desirable when the female proportion of students exceeded 58-60 percent.

Posted by: whig at May 16, 2025 02:30 PM (ctrM5)

298 There is speculations that Hungary is going to take Transcarpathia in the East, and the Romanians have a section that is ethnically Rom. I would not be surprised if Poland decided that it was due Lvov again.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 16, 2025 02:27 PM (D7oie)

Putin himself specifically said that would be fine with him years ago in a public forum. He did warn Poland though that moving borders is risky since they have a large chunk of German land given to them by Stalin in 45 and once redrawing starts its hard to stop.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 16, 2025 02:31 PM (8avO+)

299 I thought that Millennials were a -massive- cohort, bigger than Boomers or Gen X by far, and are all voting age already. How are they not in the lead? Lower registration rates?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 16, 2025 02:13 PM (yvnLa)

Boomers learned "the world is ending but you will be fine"
X learned "the world is ending and you are fucked"
Millenials learned "you are fucked"

Posted by: Kindltot at May 16, 2025 02:31 PM (D7oie)

300 >> Uhm...the security programs I run are all low on funds, which are held back awaiting a budget bill.

Oh no, better keep the grift going! That’s the most important thing to the deep state!

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 16, 2025 02:31 PM (l3YAf)

301 There does seem to be some hope that its receding, though. Stanford president has arrested protesters and is refusing to give in to ludicrous demands.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

The students are the easier ones to cow. It is now the staff and the woke faculty that have to be tackled. It will take a lot of lawsuits, firings, and denial of federal funds to end the privilege system in academia.

Posted by: whig at May 16, 2025 02:31 PM (ctrM5)

302 156 141 Seeing reports that turncoat GOP reps have torpedoed the budget/spending cuts. Looking for a link.
Posted by: Black JEM at May 16, 2025 01:57 PM (GZYu7)

They did.. Doesn't matter anyway.. Republicans in the Senate said it's DOA...

Posted by: It's me donna at May 16, 2025 02:00 PM (VE6XX)
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Forcing the GOP Senate to actually vote would have its advantages. SALT is a silly place to stand firm, as is the idea you are going to get more cost cutting directly in the bill. The longer this goes, the smaller the cuts will be, so the spending conservatives can go fuck themselves.

Posted by: Black JEM at May 16, 2025 02:33 PM (GZYu7)

303 Now they (Dims/MSM) are feebly trying to present President Trump as being old and impaired. How original in thought!

There is a story, today, in the UK DM rag about him closing his eyes briefly in Saudi Arabia. Big freaking deal.

They have NO imagination, the Dims and redditors of collective screeching. Turn about is fair play they seem to say.

Ok. Fine. In that case, jail Comey and others for their potential incitement of insurrection and murder. Treat them the same way as the J6 people who were and are jailed without trial. Yet Pelosi wants a plaque or something for J6, as her brain matter is full of white matter and plaques. Apparently this puts me in a bad mood!

And while they scream for MS-13 cartel rapist murderers, they don't want the whites fleeing South Africa on our soil. Makes sense! NOT!!!

I think Dims should collectively have MRI's of their wee brains as I think they are upside down and installed backwards.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at May 16, 2025 02:33 PM (6PCLE)

304 And HR positions have all now pretty much been filled, so graduating with a bogus degree = becoming a barista.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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Most companies are shedding staff in unproductive areas--even woke companies under Biden like Google. Stagnating stock price is why.

The grievance studies and fake liberal arts students are going to get hit pretty bad.

Posted by: whig at May 16, 2025 02:35 PM (ctrM5)

305 Putin himself specifically said that would be fine with him years ago in a public forum. He did warn Poland though that moving borders is risky since they have a large chunk of German land given to them by Stalin in 45 and once redrawing starts its hard to stop.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 16, 2025 02:31 PM (8avO+)

The Poles go between wanting stability to wanting to recreate the Polish empire. Which leads to them wishing for stability again.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 16, 2025 02:36 PM (D7oie)

306 284 I don't see any possibility that Odessa and the Black Sea Coast isn't held by Russia either de facto or completely. Its Russian, and that port can't be let fall into hostile NATO hands. Perhaps a fig leaf 'independence' or open city could be tried, but defense would be Russian.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 16, 2025 02:12 PM (8avO+)

There is speculations that Hungary is going to take Transcarpathia in the East, and the Romanians have a section that is ethnically Rom. I would not be surprised if Poland decided that it was due Lvov again.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 16, 2025 02:27 PM (D7oie)
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If Odessa isn't in Ukrainian hands they don't have a country, so I doubt that happens.

Posted by: Black JEM at May 16, 2025 02:37 PM (GZYu7)

307 Boomers learned "the world is ending but you will be fine"
X learned "the world is ending and you are fucked"
Millenials learned "you are fucked"
Posted by: Kindltot
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Z is the cohort that I am most worried about. Lying flat and all that. And those are the ones affected by piece of crap GOP do nothings in Congress and in State legislatures and Democrat insanity.

Posted by: whig at May 16, 2025 02:37 PM (ctrM5)

308 Trump just influenced the case against Comey by his own DOJ!!

Obstruction!! Tampering!! Perjury!! Impeach!!!

Posted by: ... at May 16, 2025 02:37 PM (mmeY7)

309 Political Commissar degrees are useless, at least for now

Posted by: Skip at May 16, 2025 02:38 PM (ypFCm)

310 The Poles go between wanting stability to wanting to recreate the Polish empire. Which leads to them wishing for stability again.
Posted by: Kindltot
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Poland has its own internal fight going on between the conservatives and the globalists like President Tusk.

Posted by: whig at May 16, 2025 02:38 PM (ctrM5)

311 Z is the cohort that I am most worried about. Lying flat and all that. And those are the ones affected by piece of crap GOP do nothings in Congress and in State legislatures and Democrat insanity.
Posted by: whig

My son is Z, and he and his friends are pretty sensible and hard-working.

Posted by: Bulg at May 16, 2025 02:42 PM (77rzZ)

312 Next it's going to be "Leave? No one is leaving. They will be buried here".

One of my favorite scenes from Yellowstone. Other favorite is Rip driving the dualie pickup over a bunch of motorcycles that was part of the set up for the later scene with John and the digging of the holes.

Posted by: Nelly at May 16, 2025 02:49 PM (cHLus)

313 It could be the new litmus test/gotcha question in debates:

"Do you believe that Joe Biden was mentally incompetent as president?"

Posted by: PoliticalMcguffin at May 16, 2025 03:52 PM (Yr9Q+)

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