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Trump Lands in Saudi Arabia, Announces $600 Billion in New Investments in America
Happy Tuesday!
Trump and some of his advisors and cabinet heads landed in Saudi Arabia late last night. This morning, he announced a pledge from the Saudis to invest $600 billion in the American economy.Trump is looking to secure $2 trillion in investments or trade deals in the Gulf countries.
Trump secures historic Saudi investment totaling $600 billion
President Trump on Tuesday signed a $600 billion investment agreement with Saudi Arabia--the largest ever between the two nations--spanning energy, defense, infrastructure, and technology. ... President Donald Trump on Tuesday unveiled a $600 billion investment commitment from Saudi Arabia into the United States, marking what the White House called "a new golden era of partnership." The agreement, signed during Trump's visit to the Kingdom, spans dozens of sectors and is the largest commercial package ever recorded between the two nations. The first wave of investments includes: A $142 billion defense package, described as "the largest defense sales agreement in history," spanning five broad categories: air and space capabilities, missile defense, maritime and coastal security, border security and land forces modernization, and communications upgrades. The package also includes training and support to enhance Saudi military service academies and medical services. $20 billion in U.S.-based investment from Saudi DataVolt for AI data centers and energy infrastructure. $80 billion in joint investments from companies like Google, Oracle, Salesforce, AMD, and Uber, targeting "cutting-edge transformative technologies in both countries." $2 billion in U.S. services exports for infrastructure projects such as King Salman International Airport, King Salman Park, The Vault, and Qiddiya City--led by Hill International, Jacobs, Parsons, and AECOM. $14.2 billion in GE Vernova gas turbines and energy solutions, and $4.8 billion in Boeing 737-8 aircraft for AviLease. $5.8 billion investment in the healthcare sector by Shamekh IV Solutions, LLC, including a high-capacity IV fluid plant in Michigan. The launch of three major funds focused on U.S. sector deployment: a $5 billion Energy Investment Fund, a $5 billion Aerospace and Defense Technology Fund, and a $4 billion Global Sports Fund.
Trump is expected to secure up to $2 trillion in Gulf investments tied to AI, energy, weapons, and semiconductors. The tour comes as U.S. allies grow increasingly frustrated with Biden's Middle East posture and Iran gains influence. No visit to Israel is planned, and Palestinian statehood remains a roadblock to broader normalization deals. Diving Deeper: President Donald Trump landed in Riyadh on Tuesday, kicking off a three-day tour through the Persian Gulf with the stated goal of deepening economic and defense partnerships with three of America's wealthiest and most strategic allies: Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, and Qatar. White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt called the trip "a cornerstone" of Trump's broader Middle East doctrine: defeating extremism not through endless wars, but through commerce, cultural engagement, and military cooperation.
HAPPENING NOW: President Trump and Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman sign agreements to bring more than $600,000,000,000 in investments to the U.S. pic.twitter.com/VsCX9Jy9wE
— MxM News (@mxmnews) May 13, 2025
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Am I first?
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 13, 2025 12:11 PM (S+5p3)
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runner up
Posted by: Ralph Furley. at May 13, 2025 12:12 PM (G5+As)
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That Trump guy -- he just keeps getting luckier and luckier ....
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 13, 2025 12:12 PM (iFTx/)
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Oh my!
Breaking News: Mohammed Sinwar, currently leader of Hamas and brother of the last leader who had orchestrated he Oct 7 attacks, may have just been eliminated in a massive Israeli air strike.
Breaking News: Mohammed Sinwar, currently leader of Hamas and brother of the last leader who had orchestrated he Oct 7 attacks, may have just been eliminated in a massive Israeli air strike.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 13, 2025 12:13 PM (S+5p3)
Posted by: Archimedes at May 13, 2025 12:14 PM (s8j++)
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It's another Trumpmas miracle!
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 13, 2025 12:14 PM (i24o9)
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That Trump guy -- he just keeps getting luckier and luckier ....
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 13, 2025 12:12 PM (iFTx/)
Good thing the Saudis didn't hear about that plane.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 13, 2025 12:12 PM (iFTx/)
Good thing the Saudis didn't hear about that plane.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 13, 2025 12:15 PM (ExV1e)
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Sounds like a big deal to me. Not a fan of islam, but the current Saudi leadership seems to be dedicated to keeping the worst of the crazy in check.
Realpolitik, I guess.
Realpolitik, I guess.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 13, 2025 12:15 PM (t1XLA)
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Some headline said it's $10 trillion total in foreign investment.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 12:15 PM (GBKbO)
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Breaking News: Mohammed Sinwar, currently leader of Hamas and brother of the last leader who had orchestrated he Oct 7 attacks, may have just been eliminated in a massive Israeli air strike.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 13, 2025 12:13 PM (S+5p3)
"Now go and Sinwar no more."
-Father Netanyahu
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 13, 2025 12:13 PM (S+5p3)
"Now go and Sinwar no more."
-Father Netanyahu
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 13, 2025 12:16 PM (t1XLA)
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>>>White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt called the trip "a cornerstone" of Trump's broader Middle East doctrine: defeating extremism not through endless wars, but through commerce, cultural engagement, and military cooperation.
That magnificent bastard.
The left: Trump's supporters will tire of his failures soon.
That magnificent bastard.
The left: Trump's supporters will tire of his failures soon.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 13, 2025 12:16 PM (i24o9)
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FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 13, 2025 12:16 PM (JA4sW)
13
I liked Sheikh Yerbouti. Is he still around?
Posted by: Zappa Variations at May 13, 2025 12:16 PM (G5+As)
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HAPPENING NOW: President Trump and Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman sign agreements to bring more than $600,000,000,000 in investments to the U.S.
I read this as "clown prince."
I read this as "clown prince."
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 13, 2025 12:17 PM (JA4sW)
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Breaking News: Mohammed Sinwar, currently leader of Hamas and brother of the last leader who had orchestrated he Oct 7 attacks, may have just been eliminated in a massive Israeli air strike.
Posted by: Tom Servo
......
Death by Boomba.
Posted by: Tom Servo
......
Death by Boomba.
Posted by: wth at May 13, 2025 12:17 PM (v0R5T)
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4 Oh my!
Breaking News: Mohammed Sinwar, currently leader of Hamas and brother of the last leader who had orchestrated he Oct 7 attacks, may have just been eliminated in a massive Israeli air strike.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 13, 2025 12:13 PM (S+5p3)
So Trump was the distraction for Israel...and has total deniability b/c he's not going to Israel...
Win/win.
Breaking News: Mohammed Sinwar, currently leader of Hamas and brother of the last leader who had orchestrated he Oct 7 attacks, may have just been eliminated in a massive Israeli air strike.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 13, 2025 12:13 PM (S+5p3)
So Trump was the distraction for Israel...and has total deniability b/c he's not going to Israel...
Win/win.
Posted by: Nova Local at May 13, 2025 12:17 PM (tOcjL)
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Why does Saudi need hundreds of billions in weapons ? They are the dominant arab power in the region. Unless the plan is to pull back US forces.
Posted by: runner at May 13, 2025 12:17 PM (g47mK)
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Holy cow, how are we going to unwind all this once he's gone?
Posted by: The GOPe at May 13, 2025 12:18 PM (oxFkd)
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Mornin' Ace
Posted by: garrett at May 13, 2025 12:18 PM (BUf8Q)
Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at May 13, 2025 12:18 PM (et1vG)
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Pfft first taking a bribe from Qatar now Saudi Arabia....
Posted by: steevy at May 13, 2025 12:18 PM (YwEeS)
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He keeps this up, he might become electable.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 13, 2025 12:18 PM (JA4sW)
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>>Breaking News: Mohammed Sinwar, currently leader of Hamas and brother of the last leader who had orchestrated he Oct 7 attacks, may have just been eliminated in a massive Israeli air strike.
News keeps getting better and better.
News keeps getting better and better.
Posted by: garrett at May 13, 2025 12:19 PM (BUf8Q)
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Why does Saudi need hundreds of billions in weapons ? They are the dominant arab power in the region.
All the weapons in the world won't help you if your soldiers don't want to fight. My guess is that they're going all-in on automation and drones.
All the weapons in the world won't help you if your soldiers don't want to fight. My guess is that they're going all-in on automation and drones.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 13, 2025 12:19 PM (s8j++)
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Does the $600 billion include checkered head towel manufacturing?
Posted by: wth at May 13, 2025 12:19 PM (v0R5T)
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"White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt called the trip 'a cornerstone' of Trump's broader Middle East doctrine: defeating extremism not through endless wars, but through commerce, cultural engagement, and military cooperation.'"
I'm skeptical this can be done. Maybe it can be. I think the chances of success go way up if the "Palestinian problem" is taken care of once and for all. Sadly I'm not sure how that can be done absent complete annihilation to the very last man, woman, and child.
Palestinians are like smelly diseased rats puking and bleeding on everything. You can have the finest, most luxurious dinner planned, but it will be ruined if smelly diseased rats crawl all over the table, puking and bleeding. That's the Palestinians in a nutshell.
In the meantime, while this possibly impossible-to-solve problem lingers on, I'm happy to take Saudi money.
I'm skeptical this can be done. Maybe it can be. I think the chances of success go way up if the "Palestinian problem" is taken care of once and for all. Sadly I'm not sure how that can be done absent complete annihilation to the very last man, woman, and child.
Palestinians are like smelly diseased rats puking and bleeding on everything. You can have the finest, most luxurious dinner planned, but it will be ruined if smelly diseased rats crawl all over the table, puking and bleeding. That's the Palestinians in a nutshell.
In the meantime, while this possibly impossible-to-solve problem lingers on, I'm happy to take Saudi money.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 13, 2025 12:19 PM (iFTx/)
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Any video that shows Trump but where we don’t get any off the cuff Trump riffing is a disappointment. I laughed so hard the other day when Trump was riffing about some very rich and fat friend of his who gets the “fat shot” but “it doesn’t work”…. More riffing please
BTW… $600B is great but I don’t like cozying up to the Saudis…. But it they’re a counterbalance to Iran so realpolitik I guess
BTW… $600B is great but I don’t like cozying up to the Saudis…. But it they’re a counterbalance to Iran so realpolitik I guess
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 13, 2025 12:19 PM (5MZNC)
Posted by: runner at May 13, 2025 12:19 PM (g47mK)
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Saudis have some nice digs over there. Their A/C bills must be enormous.
Posted by: Man From Trane at May 13, 2025 12:19 PM (G5+As)
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Why does Saudi need hundreds of billions in weapons ? They are the dominant arab power in the region. Unless the plan is to pull back US forces.
Posted by: runner
Normally, I would say "Iran." But I heard that the Iranian Foreign Minister is going to Saudi, so maybe those two countries are trying to bury the hatchet.
Posted by: runner
Normally, I would say "Iran." But I heard that the Iranian Foreign Minister is going to Saudi, so maybe those two countries are trying to bury the hatchet.
Posted by: Bulg at May 13, 2025 12:19 PM (77rzZ)
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Why does Saudi need hundreds of billions in weapons ? They are the dominant arab power in the region. Unless the plan is to pull back US forces.
Posted by: runner
Because they 'middle east in general', don't do PM.
Posted by: runner
Because they 'middle east in general', don't do PM.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 13, 2025 12:19 PM (d2jCh)
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Rapid Response 47
@RapidResponse47
@POTUS
Iran CAN have a much brighter future — but we will NEVER allow them to threaten America and our allies with terrorism or a nuclear attack.
The time is RIGHT NOW for them to choose.
https://tinyurl.com/5xp4n4zr
@RapidResponse47
@POTUS
Iran CAN have a much brighter future — but we will NEVER allow them to threaten America and our allies with terrorism or a nuclear attack.
The time is RIGHT NOW for them to choose.
https://tinyurl.com/5xp4n4zr
Posted by: redridinghood at May 13, 2025 12:20 PM (NpAcC)
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Media: Trump screws rest of the world out of badly needed Saudi $600 billion that could save millions of children's lives!!!!
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at May 13, 2025 12:20 PM (17s+e)
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Hi Ace
Trump is giving an amazing speech after standing through Lee Greenwood's entire song before taking the podium. His speech devastating the WEF idea of what the global,economy should look like.
I couldn't be more Proud to be an American.
Trump is giving an amazing speech after standing through Lee Greenwood's entire song before taking the podium. His speech devastating the WEF idea of what the global,economy should look like.
I couldn't be more Proud to be an American.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 13, 2025 12:20 PM (t/2Uw)
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Newsweek: Donald Trump Salutes Saudi Arabian Generals During Riyadh Visit. There has been a discussion in recent years about the proper etiquette for presidents saluting the military, particularly those from other nations.
A returned salute by Trump to a North Korean general during his first term sparked criticism, with some saying he should not have shown respect to a hostile nation.
Hopefully the Saudis can help him with his bone spurs by using bone saws. Give him the authentic Jamal Khashoggi treatment.
Trump knows who signs his paychecks. And submits the proper obeisance. All while he's having U.S. Generals fired. How long will this shit go on?
He calls our American soldiers "suckers and losers". What a pathetic groveling punk. GOP never speaks up to defend our soldiers, and call out Krasnov's krap
He thinks it makes him look cool. It's as simple as that. No thoughts. Only camera.
A returned salute by Trump to a North Korean general during his first term sparked criticism, with some saying he should not have shown respect to a hostile nation.
Hopefully the Saudis can help him with his bone spurs by using bone saws. Give him the authentic Jamal Khashoggi treatment.
Trump knows who signs his paychecks. And submits the proper obeisance. All while he's having U.S. Generals fired. How long will this shit go on?
He calls our American soldiers "suckers and losers". What a pathetic groveling punk. GOP never speaks up to defend our soldiers, and call out Krasnov's krap
He thinks it makes him look cool. It's as simple as that. No thoughts. Only camera.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 13, 2025 12:20 PM (JCZqz)
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Careless exploitation of advanced military power, and disregard for human life!
---Tucker Carlson et al.
---Tucker Carlson et al.
Posted by: runner at May 13, 2025 12:20 PM (g47mK)
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BTW… $600B is great but I don’t like cozying up to the Saudis…. But it they’re a counterbalance to Iran so realpolitik I guess
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 13, 2025 12:19 PM (5MZNC)
Don't love it either but I trust the guy.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 13, 2025 12:19 PM (5MZNC)
Don't love it either but I trust the guy.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 13, 2025 12:21 PM (KbCG3)
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Quite the reception Trump received from the Saudis:
AF1 escorted in by Saudi fighter jets
Met at the Tarmac by the Crown Prince himself.
Beautifully laid out with lavender runner carpets, full military presence at attention with American flags.
White Arabian horses escorted the "beast" and POTUS to the Saudi Palace with the riders holding American flags.
A truly royal welcome.
AF1 escorted in by Saudi fighter jets
Met at the Tarmac by the Crown Prince himself.
Beautifully laid out with lavender runner carpets, full military presence at attention with American flags.
White Arabian horses escorted the "beast" and POTUS to the Saudi Palace with the riders holding American flags.
A truly royal welcome.
Posted by: Cheri at May 13, 2025 12:21 PM (oiNtH)
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Palestinians are like smelly diseased rats puking and bleeding on everything. You can have the finest, most luxurious dinner planned, but it will be ruined if smelly diseased rats crawl all over the table, puking and bleeding.
You seem to give great thought to your metaphors.
You seem to give great thought to your metaphors.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 13, 2025 12:21 PM (s8j++)
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Hi, Sharon. How art thou?
Posted by: Bulg at May 13, 2025 12:21 PM (77rzZ)
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Why does Saudi need hundreds of billions in weapons ?
......
The ones they have now are all full of sand.
......
The ones they have now are all full of sand.
Posted by: wth at May 13, 2025 12:21 PM (v0R5T)
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Israel Stikes Hospital in Gaza !
---BBC News
Posted by: runner at May 13, 2025 12:19 PM (g47mK)
Israel continues it's quest for genocide by bombing schools and daycare centers in an attempt to claim the death of a Hamas leader.
- - - - THIS.....is CNN
---BBC News
Posted by: runner at May 13, 2025 12:19 PM (g47mK)
Israel continues it's quest for genocide by bombing schools and daycare centers in an attempt to claim the death of a Hamas leader.
- - - - THIS.....is CNN
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 13, 2025 12:22 PM (JA4sW)
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>>>$20 billion in . . . .
$80 billion in . . . .
$2 billion in . . . .
$14.2 billion . . . .
$5.8 billion investment in . . . .
$1.4 billion investment in Instagram thots.
$80 billion in . . . .
$2 billion in . . . .
$14.2 billion . . . .
$5.8 billion investment in . . . .
$1.4 billion investment in Instagram thots.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 13, 2025 12:22 PM (i24o9)
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35 He calls our American soldiers "suckers and losers". What a pathetic groveling punk. GOP never speaks up to defend our soldiers, and call out Krasnov's krap
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 13, 2025 12:20 PM (JCZqz)
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It does not surprise me in the least that DU still believes this.
I mean, anything Bill Kristol says they believe.
Especially about things that happen on the other side of the Atlantic Ocean.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 13, 2025 12:20 PM (JCZqz)
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It does not surprise me in the least that DU still believes this.
I mean, anything Bill Kristol says they believe.
Especially about things that happen on the other side of the Atlantic Ocean.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 12:22 PM (GBKbO)
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Where are the trolls saying Trump is weak?
Posted by: Lady in Black at May 13, 2025 12:22 PM (qBdHI)
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But I heard that the Iranian Foreign Minister is going to Saudi, so maybe those two countries are trying to bury the hatchet.
They're circling the drain with their own people, and don't have the bandwidth to keep supporting all their proxies.
They're circling the drain with their own people, and don't have the bandwidth to keep supporting all their proxies.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 13, 2025 12:22 PM (s8j++)
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He calls our American soldiers "suckers and losers". What a pathetic groveling punk. GOP never speaks up to defend our soldiers, and call out Krasnov's krap
He thinks it makes him look cool. It's as simple as that. No thoughts. Only camera.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 13, 2025 12:20 PM (JCZqz)
LOL.. Sounds a bit bitter
He thinks it makes him look cool. It's as simple as that. No thoughts. Only camera.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 13, 2025 12:20 PM (JCZqz)
LOL.. Sounds a bit bitter
Posted by: It's me donna at May 13, 2025 12:23 PM (VE6XX)
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Trump knows who signs his paychecks. And submits the proper obeisance. All while he's having U.S. Generals fired. How long will this shit go on?
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions
What did the DU say when HBO bowed to the Saudis?
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions
What did the DU say when HBO bowed to the Saudis?
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 13, 2025 12:23 PM (d2jCh)
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45 Where are the trolls saying Trump is weak?
Posted by: Lady in Black at May 13, 2025 12:22 PM (qBdHI)
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He completely caved to China! By reducing tariffs on China to 55%...40% higher than they were 2 months ago.
Posted by: Lady in Black at May 13, 2025 12:22 PM (qBdHI)
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He completely caved to China! By reducing tariffs on China to 55%...40% higher than they were 2 months ago.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 12:23 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Gordon Lightfoot at May 13, 2025 12:23 PM (s8j++)
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...so are the days of our lives......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 13, 2025 12:24 PM (JA4sW)
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41 The ones they have now are all full of sand.
Posted by: wth at May 13, 2025 12:21 PM (v0R5T)
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mmmm....
bags of sand...
just like a woman's breasts...
Posted by: wth at May 13, 2025 12:21 PM (v0R5T)
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mmmm....
bags of sand...
just like a woman's breasts...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 12:24 PM (GBKbO)
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Spicer (on Halperin) makes a good point, which is that Trump was willing (even eager) to stand in a hours long receiving line because the Saudis were intent on broad contacts between all the Saudi and American business people and political leaders. Long lines of Saudis and long lines of Americans all wanted to press the flesh.
Biden is so gone, thank heaven.
Biden is so gone, thank heaven.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 13, 2025 12:24 PM (7jiEW)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 13, 2025 12:24 PM (JA4sW)
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Yea but I hiked the great wall of China with Premier Xi..........
And then I woke up from my 10th nap of the day....
And then I woke up from my 10th nap of the day....
Posted by: Joe Bribem at May 13, 2025 12:25 PM (FDlb9)
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Journalists covering President Donald Trump’s arrival to Saudi Arabia on Tuesday observed the presence of a mobile McDonald’s set up at a press center for covering the event in Riyadh, an apparent nod to the president’s love of the burger restaurant.
Posted by: SMOD at May 13, 2025 12:25 PM (RHGPo)
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>>I once had pockets full of sand.
Posted by: Gordon Lightfoot at May 13, 2025 12:23 PM (s8j++)
Beats Kryptonite.
Posted by: Gordon Lightfoot at May 13, 2025 12:23 PM (s8j++)
Beats Kryptonite.
Posted by: Spin Doctors at May 13, 2025 12:25 PM (BUf8Q)
58
I support the thing.
Posted by: Don Black at May 13, 2025 12:25 PM (AOsQT)
59
I'm skeptical this can be done. Maybe it can be. I think the chances of success go way up if the "Palestinian problem" is taken care of once and for all.
That's the conventional wisdom of John Effin' Kerry and "the experts". I think it's entirely possible to do things in the Middle East, especially if Iran's mullahs are killed or otherwise sidelined.
That's the conventional wisdom of John Effin' Kerry and "the experts". I think it's entirely possible to do things in the Middle East, especially if Iran's mullahs are killed or otherwise sidelined.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 13, 2025 12:25 PM (QZThv)
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Hold on! Hold on! My hair is still ablaze from Trump's free jetliner...dammit Trump!
Posted by: Old Titty Babies Everywhere at May 13, 2025 12:25 PM (xofCm)
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53 Spicer (on Halperin) makes a good point, which is that Trump was willing (even eager) to stand in a hours long receiving line because the Saudis were intent on broad contacts between all the Saudi and American business people and political leaders. Long lines of Saudis and long lines of Americans all wanted to press the flesh.
Biden is so gone, thank heaven.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 13, 2025 12:24 PM (7jiEW)
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Trump shook the hand of every graduate at Annapolis one year.
I remember reading that it's typical for the presidents to shake the hands of the first few dozen and no more.
Biden is so gone, thank heaven.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 13, 2025 12:24 PM (7jiEW)
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Trump shook the hand of every graduate at Annapolis one year.
I remember reading that it's typical for the presidents to shake the hands of the first few dozen and no more.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 12:25 PM (GBKbO)
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BTW… $600B is great but I don’t like cozying up to the Saudis…. But it they’re a counterbalance to Iran so realpolitik I guess
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 13, 2025 12:19 PM (5MZNC)
Don't love it either but I trust the guy.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 13, 2025 12:21 PM (KbCG3)
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Agree but the situation in the middle east -- mostly Iran -- requires a combination of choosing the lesser of two evils and realizing the enemy of my enemy is my friend. You can't have any ME policy that doesn't involve cutting deals with rabid hyenas. That, plus it means a lot of money to USA, and economic activity can help reduce conflict.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 13, 2025 12:19 PM (5MZNC)
Don't love it either but I trust the guy.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 13, 2025 12:21 PM (KbCG3)
________
Agree but the situation in the middle east -- mostly Iran -- requires a combination of choosing the lesser of two evils and realizing the enemy of my enemy is my friend. You can't have any ME policy that doesn't involve cutting deals with rabid hyenas. That, plus it means a lot of money to USA, and economic activity can help reduce conflict.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 13, 2025 12:25 PM (iFTx/)
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Yea but I hiked the great wall of China with Premier Xi..........
And then I woke up from my 10th nap of the day....
Posted by: Joe Bribem at May 13, 2025 12:25 PM (FDlb9)
The only thing you hiked is your Depends up.......
And then I woke up from my 10th nap of the day....
Posted by: Joe Bribem at May 13, 2025 12:25 PM (FDlb9)
The only thing you hiked is your Depends up.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 13, 2025 12:25 PM (JA4sW)
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Saudis have some nice digs over there. Their A/C bills must be enormous.
Posted by: Man From Trane
Opening a hotel door to exit the building there is like opening an oven door.
Posted by: Man From Trane
Opening a hotel door to exit the building there is like opening an oven door.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 13, 2025 12:25 PM (lTGtQ)
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Long lines of Saudis and long lines of Americans all wanted to press the flesh.
Posted by: Huck Follywood
Oh my! Sounds like last Friday at The Blazing Saddle!
Posted by: Huck Follywood
Oh my! Sounds like last Friday at The Blazing Saddle!
Posted by: Pete Buttigieg at May 13, 2025 12:26 PM (JCZqz)
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Doing great, Bulg.
Optometrist told me yesterday my eyes so good I won't even need readers. Pretty miraculous after wearing glasses since I was 8 yrs old.
Are you going to make NoVA.? I think you said you might have a conflict.
Optometrist told me yesterday my eyes so good I won't even need readers. Pretty miraculous after wearing glasses since I was 8 yrs old.
Are you going to make NoVA.? I think you said you might have a conflict.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 13, 2025 12:26 PM (t/2Uw)
Posted by: Joe Biden at May 13, 2025 12:26 PM (JA4sW)
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President Trump knows how to be the strong horse. He's been playing this game on the world stage now for 50 years or so.
It may seem odd, but, this is what impresses people. People sit up and notice when someone can get this kind of deference on a very large stage.
Weak kneed sniveling is for 3rd rate countries, not for the number 1 country in the world.
It may seem odd, but, this is what impresses people. People sit up and notice when someone can get this kind of deference on a very large stage.
Weak kneed sniveling is for 3rd rate countries, not for the number 1 country in the world.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 13, 2025 12:26 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: ... at May 13, 2025 12:26 PM (GPc/R)
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Incoming Houti missile.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 13, 2025 12:26 PM (lkmGL)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 13, 2025 12:27 PM (63Dwl)
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Good afternoon Ace and everyone
Posted by: Skip at May 13, 2025 12:27 PM (ypFCm)
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Hold on! Hold on! My hair is still ablaze from Trump's free jetliner...dammit Trump!
Posted by: Old Titty Babies Everywhere
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I'm still freaking out over Alcatraz!
Posted by: Old Titty Babies Everywhere
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I'm still freaking out over Alcatraz!
Posted by: wth at May 13, 2025 12:27 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: 3 Doors Down (who wrote Kryptonite) at May 13, 2025 12:27 PM (KoflL)
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I see some analysts calling this "the world’s largest debt for equity swap with the Saudis."
IIUTC this means the Saudis start buying our stuff, and that means we can afford to pay off our Treasuries. Is this close?
IIUTC this means the Saudis start buying our stuff, and that means we can afford to pay off our Treasuries. Is this close?
Posted by: Kindltot at May 13, 2025 12:27 PM (D7oie)
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MAGA 2025
Posted by: Skip at May 13, 2025 12:27 PM (ypFCm)
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I'm skeptical this can be done.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 13, 2025 12:19 PM (iFTx/)
Me, too.
But I am willing to take the chance that dollars mean more to those willing to crack down on their zealots than austere religious scholarship and goat sex.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 13, 2025 12:19 PM (iFTx/)
Me, too.
But I am willing to take the chance that dollars mean more to those willing to crack down on their zealots than austere religious scholarship and goat sex.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 13, 2025 12:27 PM (i24o9)
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at May 13, 2025 12:27 PM (dPQgj)
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73 Hold on! Hold on! My hair is still ablaze from Trump's free jetliner...dammit Trump!
Posted by: Old Titty Babies Everywhere
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I'm still freaking out over Alcatraz!
Posted by: wth at May 13, 2025 12:27 PM (v0R5T)
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Wait...you guys got over the pope picture?
Posted by: Old Titty Babies Everywhere
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I'm still freaking out over Alcatraz!
Posted by: wth at May 13, 2025 12:27 PM (v0R5T)
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Wait...you guys got over the pope picture?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 12:27 PM (GBKbO)
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Palestinians are like smelly diseased rats puking and bleeding on everything. You can have the finest, most luxurious dinner planned, but it will be ruined if smelly diseased rats crawl all over the table, puking and bleeding.
You seem to give great thought to your metaphors.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 13, 2025 12:21 PM (s8j++)
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The Cruelty Level on this blog is high and Must Raise Game to compete. LOL.
You seem to give great thought to your metaphors.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 13, 2025 12:21 PM (s8j++)
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The Cruelty Level on this blog is high and Must Raise Game to compete. LOL.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 13, 2025 12:27 PM (iFTx/)
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*biden's trip to Saudi Arabia:
After once promising to make Saudi Arabia “a pariah,” President Biden is now set to meet with the country’s leaders. Ben Rhodes tells us why he thinks the presidential visit was “sadly inevitable.”
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He "fist bumped" MBS on that visit.
Compare/Contrast....
After once promising to make Saudi Arabia “a pariah,” President Biden is now set to meet with the country’s leaders. Ben Rhodes tells us why he thinks the presidential visit was “sadly inevitable.”
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He "fist bumped" MBS on that visit.
Compare/Contrast....
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 13, 2025 12:27 PM (Q4IgG)
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He did it. Trump played YMCA for the Saudis. Unwavering speaks volumns
Posted by: Captain Fantastic not Gumby at May 13, 2025 12:27 PM (ey6uh)
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Hold on! Hold on! My hair is still ablaze from Trump's free jetliner...dammit Trump!
I meant to post this earlier. It applies to both left and right.
Why do you still listen?!
https://is.gd/bTVkfX
I meant to post this earlier. It applies to both left and right.
Why do you still listen?!
https://is.gd/bTVkfX
Posted by: Archimedes at May 13, 2025 12:27 PM (s8j++)
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I remember reading that it's typical for the presidents to shake the hands of the first few dozen and no more.
I can remember stories of LBJ having to suspend hand shaking because his hand would get sore
I can remember stories of LBJ having to suspend hand shaking because his hand would get sore
Posted by: SMOD at May 13, 2025 12:28 PM (RHGPo)
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That's it. Air Force 1 from Qatar, visiting Saudis.
Trump wants to turn us into a Mideast country.
Trump wants to turn us into a Mideast country.
Posted by: Axeman at May 13, 2025 12:28 PM (krQz2)
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37 BTW… $600B is great but I don’t like cozying up to the Saudis…. But it they’re a counterbalance to Iran so realpolitik I guess
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 13, 2025 12:19 PM (5MZNC)
Don't love it either but I trust the guy.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer
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Saudis are also balancing the increasing ties between Russia and Iran due to Ukraine.
If you notice, part of the reason that Saudis are flooding the market with oil is that it hurts both Russia and Iran in the pocketbook but helps the US and Western Europe. As both Iran and Saudis have sanctions they only get a fraction of the $63 bucks or so OPEC average.
That means a lot less money to fund wars, pay off proxies, and support their regimes by essentially buying off their citizens with welfare.
Rentier states relying on sales of commodities are particularly vulnerable to those commodities dropping in price.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 13, 2025 12:19 PM (5MZNC)
Don't love it either but I trust the guy.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer
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Saudis are also balancing the increasing ties between Russia and Iran due to Ukraine.
If you notice, part of the reason that Saudis are flooding the market with oil is that it hurts both Russia and Iran in the pocketbook but helps the US and Western Europe. As both Iran and Saudis have sanctions they only get a fraction of the $63 bucks or so OPEC average.
That means a lot less money to fund wars, pay off proxies, and support their regimes by essentially buying off their citizens with welfare.
Rentier states relying on sales of commodities are particularly vulnerable to those commodities dropping in price.
Posted by: whig at May 13, 2025 12:28 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: Old Skool Rabid Leftist at May 13, 2025 12:28 PM (JCZqz)
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Incoming Houti missile.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 13, 2025 12:26 PM (lkmGL)
Stay low. Be safe.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 13, 2025 12:26 PM (lkmGL)
Stay low. Be safe.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead...Wearing Pants and Working at May 13, 2025 12:28 PM (luW68)
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 13, 2025 12:28 PM (agYoY)
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You can have the finest, most luxurious dinner planned, but it will be ruined if smelly diseased rats crawl all over the table, puking and bleeding.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 13, 2025 12:19 PM
Wait until the penguins come happy-footing through despoiling everything and everyone.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 13, 2025 12:19 PM
Wait until the penguins come happy-footing through despoiling everything and everyone.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 13, 2025 12:28 PM (0sNs1)
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Israel should shrink the size of Gaza to the point that it can accommodate its current population without overcrowding, but leave no room for growth. Turn it into a giant internment camp for enemy aliens, but make it Israeli territory. Make it clear to them that they are free to leave, if they can find a muslim country to take them. Give them a cash "departure bonus" if they leave.
And no more gazans permitted to enter Israel proper. If they want to set up workshops in gaza to do value-added work on Israeli goods, to earn income, fine. But zero work visas.
And no more gazans permitted to enter Israel proper. If they want to set up workshops in gaza to do value-added work on Israeli goods, to earn income, fine. But zero work visas.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 13, 2025 12:28 PM (t1XLA)
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Finally Joe Biden's foreign expertise is paying off!!
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at May 13, 2025 12:29 PM (17s+e)
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The ones they have now are all full of sand.
I once had pockets full of sand.
Posted by: Gordon Lightfoot at May 13, 2025 12:23 PM (s8j++)
Pocket sand! Sha-sha-sha!
I once had pockets full of sand.
Posted by: Gordon Lightfoot at May 13, 2025 12:23 PM (s8j++)
Pocket sand! Sha-sha-sha!
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at May 13, 2025 12:29 PM (l3YAf)
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Incoming Houti missile.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey,
Seriously? With Trump in the ME? They really want to be wiped off the face of the earth. Aren't the Saudis sworn enemies?
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey,
Seriously? With Trump in the ME? They really want to be wiped off the face of the earth. Aren't the Saudis sworn enemies?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 13, 2025 12:29 PM (t/2Uw)
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Them Saudis like to see the way we bitch slap the Houthis
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 13, 2025 12:29 PM (wBaIH)
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Omg they're back to suckers and losers?
They really are running in fumes when they have to dip into the 2018 lie bag.
Next they'll be telling us he said Nazis were "fine people".
They really are running in fumes when they have to dip into the 2018 lie bag.
Next they'll be telling us he said Nazis were "fine people".
Posted by: ... at May 13, 2025 12:30 PM (GPc/R)
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74 Beats Kryptonite.
Posted by: Spin Doctors
Who the hell are the Spin Doctors?
Posted by: 3 Doors Down
🎶 I know what a prison lover ought to be
I know what a prison lover ought to beeeeee! 🎶
Posted by: Spin Doctors
Who the hell are the Spin Doctors?
Posted by: 3 Doors Down
🎶 I know what a prison lover ought to be
I know what a prison lover ought to beeeeee! 🎶
Posted by: Misheard Lyrics at May 13, 2025 12:30 PM (JCZqz)
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It is illegal to practice any religion than Islam.
No non-muslims may be subjects of the King.
Women may not move about without a male relative.
Fvck them. Fvck their money.
No non-muslims may be subjects of the King.
Women may not move about without a male relative.
Fvck them. Fvck their money.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 13, 2025 12:30 PM (RIvkX)
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But, but... a free plane!!!
Posted by: An idiot at May 13, 2025 12:30 PM (HsIYU)
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You can't have any ME policy that doesn't involve cutting deals with rabid hyenas. That, plus it means a lot of money to USA, and economic activity can help reduce conflict.
That, and the ability to brick the military hardware we sell them, should we so choose.
That, and the ability to brick the military hardware we sell them, should we so choose.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 13, 2025 12:30 PM (s8j++)
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96 Omg they're back to suckers and losers?
They really are running in fumes when they have to dip into the 2018 lie bag.
Next they'll be telling us he said Nazis were "fine people".
Posted by: ... at May 13, 2025 12:30 PM (GPc/R)
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Anything Bill Kristol says is gold, Jerry!
Gold!
They really are running in fumes when they have to dip into the 2018 lie bag.
Next they'll be telling us he said Nazis were "fine people".
Posted by: ... at May 13, 2025 12:30 PM (GPc/R)
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Anything Bill Kristol says is gold, Jerry!
Gold!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 12:30 PM (GBKbO)
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85 That's it. Air Force 1 from Qatar, visiting Saudis.
Trump wants to turn us into a Mideast country.
Posted by: Axeman
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Always useful to put the /s on that Axeman.
But seriously,
I quit reading all the 'media' hair on fire shit years ago. Helps the digestion and clears the mind of bullshit. In almost every case where I could access direct information, the media story version of it was bogus, biased, and bullshit in equal parts.
Trump wants to turn us into a Mideast country.
Posted by: Axeman
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Always useful to put the /s on that Axeman.
But seriously,
I quit reading all the 'media' hair on fire shit years ago. Helps the digestion and clears the mind of bullshit. In almost every case where I could access direct information, the media story version of it was bogus, biased, and bullshit in equal parts.
Posted by: whig at May 13, 2025 12:30 PM (ctrM5)
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New York legislature passes long-delayed state budget — including provision for AG Letitia James’ criminal defense
Posted by: SMOD at May 13, 2025 12:30 PM (RHGPo)
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While this is all great stuff, I'm a little curious as to what the long game is with Israel. Clearly he gave Netanyahu the smackdown, but what is next?
Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at May 13, 2025 12:30 PM (l7Uym)
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$80 billion in joint investments from companies like Google, Oracle, Salesforce, AMD, and Uber, targeting "cutting-edge transformative technologies in both countries."
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What does this mean in plain English? It says “from companies like”. Does that mean the companies are investing? If that’s the case where does Saudi Arabia come in? Are the companies investing in Saudi?
Targeting transformational tech? lol. That’s marketing jargon every tech company uses. Is Uber going to add extra drivers in Jeddah?
This is always the case with broad announcements on investments. It’s a lot of vaporware with no specifics.
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What does this mean in plain English? It says “from companies like”. Does that mean the companies are investing? If that’s the case where does Saudi Arabia come in? Are the companies investing in Saudi?
Targeting transformational tech? lol. That’s marketing jargon every tech company uses. Is Uber going to add extra drivers in Jeddah?
This is always the case with broad announcements on investments. It’s a lot of vaporware with no specifics.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 13, 2025 12:31 PM (d4dD2)
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Turns out, we didn't need a new bill, we just needed a new President.
Biden: Billions borrowed by the government and sent by government insiders to their cronies.
Trump: Billions invested by private entities into and for Americans.
Wow. What a concept.
If you think Trump is going to fail, it's because you went to Harvard.
Biden: Billions borrowed by the government and sent by government insiders to their cronies.
Trump: Billions invested by private entities into and for Americans.
Wow. What a concept.
If you think Trump is going to fail, it's because you went to Harvard.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 13, 2025 12:31 PM (NwfFc)
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Why do the Saudis buy new weapons? Because they can't maintain them past warranty.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 13, 2025 12:31 PM (wBaIH)
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President Trump knows how to be the strong horse. He's been playing this game on the world stage now for 50 years or so.
It may seem odd, but, this is what impresses people. People sit up and notice when someone can get this kind of deference on a very large stage.
Weak kneed sniveling is for 3rd rate countries, not for the number 1 country in the world.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 13, 2025 12:26 PM (tT6L1)
It is not odd at all. Certain segments respond only to displays of raw power and the willingness to use it.
I had the same conversation with the high school athletic director about developing behavior problems.
Some people just have to know that they will get their asses kicked if they get out of line to hold them to higher behavioral standards.
It's a principle as old and reliable as dirt.
It may seem odd, but, this is what impresses people. People sit up and notice when someone can get this kind of deference on a very large stage.
Weak kneed sniveling is for 3rd rate countries, not for the number 1 country in the world.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 13, 2025 12:26 PM (tT6L1)
It is not odd at all. Certain segments respond only to displays of raw power and the willingness to use it.
I had the same conversation with the high school athletic director about developing behavior problems.
Some people just have to know that they will get their asses kicked if they get out of line to hold them to higher behavioral standards.
It's a principle as old and reliable as dirt.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 13, 2025 12:31 PM (i24o9)
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Oh, oh free jet airliner
Don't carry me too far away
Oh, oh free jet airliner
'Cause I heard that democrats are gay
Don't carry me too far away
Oh, oh free jet airliner
'Cause I heard that democrats are gay
Posted by: Karl Childers at May 13, 2025 12:31 PM (YStF8)
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Afternoon ace. Saw some Dem senator claiming this is Trump's grift tour. Getting $600b in investment in the US ain't grift. Biden and the Dems got their noses out of joint after the Saudis whacked some Muslim Brotherhood propaganda minister aka "journalist" and decided to teach the Sauds a lesson. Biden's whole administration was a bucket full of schmucks
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 13, 2025 12:31 PM (2ZThz)
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Don’t trust SA, they may think they’re prepping the ground for a caliphate America.
Posted by: Eromero at May 13, 2025 12:31 PM (3Q4mi)
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Good thing the Saudis didn't hear about that plane.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 13, 2025 12:15 PM (ExV1e)
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Small potatoes for the Saudis…wait until they here what Trump grabs.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 13, 2025 12:15 PM (ExV1e)
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Small potatoes for the Saudis…wait until they here what Trump grabs.
Posted by: Cray Cray at May 13, 2025 12:31 PM (FSGZq)
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cozying up to the Saudis….
They sport festive little hats!
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats
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They are cool, checkered hand towels with a headband.
Trump should wear one.
They sport festive little hats!
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats
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They are cool, checkered hand towels with a headband.
Trump should wear one.
Posted by: wth at May 13, 2025 12:31 PM (v0R5T)
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Are you going to make NoVA.? I think you said you might have a conflict.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice)
True. My niece's oldest daughter is graduating from high school that weekend, so I will be travelling back to Michigan to attend the ceremony.
I'll miss seeing you all, but I haven't seen this particular niece in a very long time, so it's an opportunity to catch up and restore some frayed relationships in my troubled extended family.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice)
True. My niece's oldest daughter is graduating from high school that weekend, so I will be travelling back to Michigan to attend the ceremony.
I'll miss seeing you all, but I haven't seen this particular niece in a very long time, so it's an opportunity to catch up and restore some frayed relationships in my troubled extended family.
Posted by: Bulg at May 13, 2025 12:32 PM (77rzZ)
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98 It is illegal to practice any religion than Islam.
No non-muslims may be subjects of the King.
Women may not move about without a male relative.
Fvck them. Fvck their money.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 13, 2025 12:30 PM (RIvkX)
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But enough about England...
No non-muslims may be subjects of the King.
Women may not move about without a male relative.
Fvck them. Fvck their money.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 13, 2025 12:30 PM (RIvkX)
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But enough about England...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 12:32 PM (GBKbO)
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That Trump guy -- he just keeps getting luckier and luckier ....
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If only he buckled down and did his homework, imagine what he could do ....
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If only he buckled down and did his homework, imagine what he could do ....
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 13, 2025 12:32 PM (NwfFc)
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What's the big deal? I got us $600 billion the old-fashioned way- I printed it and then taxed it from you.
Posted by: Joe Biden at May 13, 2025 12:32 PM (TJMjl)
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I love all the 2nd thoughts MAGA voters are having, as the journalismists assure me.
Posted by: Eeyore at May 13, 2025 12:32 PM (1bNHn)
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It is illegal to practice any religion than Islam.
No non-muslims may be subjects of the King.
Women may not move about without a male relative.
Women are allowed to drive now in Saudi. (Insert your parallel parking jokes here)
No non-muslims may be subjects of the King.
Women may not move about without a male relative.
Women are allowed to drive now in Saudi. (Insert your parallel parking jokes here)
Posted by: Ian S. at May 13, 2025 12:32 PM (QZThv)
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New York legislature passes long-delayed state budget — including provision for AG Letitia James’ criminal defense
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Taxpayers are footing the bill for her mortgage fraud case?
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Taxpayers are footing the bill for her mortgage fraud case?
Posted by: Lady in Black at May 13, 2025 12:32 PM (qBdHI)
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Roman historians can correct me but I believe Julius Ceasar was the first Roman leader to receive the name Gaius, roughly translated as 'to rejoice'. I am ready to start calling the Orange man, Gaius Donald J Trump.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * poorly trained emotional support moron at May 13, 2025 12:33 PM (Uzn0I)
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Did you see the Government had a revenue surplus this month due to tariffs.
So much for tanking the economy.
So much for tanking the economy.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 13, 2025 12:33 PM (t/2Uw)
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If everyone is going to accuse us of running an empire, we may as well get tribute.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at May 13, 2025 12:33 PM (iX1qt)
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Philip Melanchthon Wegmann
@PhilipWegmann
Trump says "I don't like permanent enemies."
He notes the U.S. has made friends of former enemies--a potential for Iran.
"I want to make a deal with Iran," he says before adding that if they "reject this olive branch" then the U.S. will "drive Iranian oil exports to zero."
@PhilipWegmann
Trump says "I don't like permanent enemies."
He notes the U.S. has made friends of former enemies--a potential for Iran.
"I want to make a deal with Iran," he says before adding that if they "reject this olive branch" then the U.S. will "drive Iranian oil exports to zero."
Posted by: redridinghood at May 13, 2025 12:33 PM (NpAcC)
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Women are allowed to drive now in Saudi. (Insert your parallel parking jokes here)
That's what the Empty Quarter is for. Roomy.
That's what the Empty Quarter is for. Roomy.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 13, 2025 12:34 PM (s8j++)
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And no more gazans permitted to enter Israel proper. If they want to set up workshops in gaza to do value-added work on Israeli goods, to earn income, fine. But zero work visas.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 13, 2025 12:28 PM (t1XLA)
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In theory, yes. But in reality, I'm not sure that's possible without a massive realignment of the working class in Israel. The lowest rung of workers in Israel are Palestinians, many who are day laborers entering from Gaza. Israel claims there are about 200k of them. I suspect the number is much higher. Israel is just as addicted to cheap, pliable labor as we are.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 13, 2025 12:28 PM (t1XLA)
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In theory, yes. But in reality, I'm not sure that's possible without a massive realignment of the working class in Israel. The lowest rung of workers in Israel are Palestinians, many who are day laborers entering from Gaza. Israel claims there are about 200k of them. I suspect the number is much higher. Israel is just as addicted to cheap, pliable labor as we are.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 13, 2025 12:34 PM (iFTx/)
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Roche pharmaceutical is building a $700 million plant in Holly Springs, NC. RDC Apex.
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 13, 2025 12:34 PM (A2D3h)
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Incoming Houti missile.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 13, 2025 12:26 PM (lkmGL)
Stay low. Be safe.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead...Wearing Pants and Working at May 13, 2025 12:28 PM (luW6
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Thanks. All clear.
I assume this triggered them:
https://tinyurl.com/56nm5ds9
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 13, 2025 12:26 PM (lkmGL)
Stay low. Be safe.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead...Wearing Pants and Working at May 13, 2025 12:28 PM (luW6
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Thanks. All clear.
I assume this triggered them:
https://tinyurl.com/56nm5ds9
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 13, 2025 12:34 PM (lkmGL)
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What time period is the $600B over?
Posted by: 18-1 at May 13, 2025 12:34 PM (t0Rmr)
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Next they'll be telling us he said Nazis were "fine people".
Posted by: ...
I got dog piled on X for calling it a hoax just last week lol. They couldn't wrap their brains around it. I then mentioned you could selectively edit Michelle Obama’s recent quote out of context "That warms my heart, particularly as a Black man."
They didn't get it. The TDS is VERY real.
Posted by: ...
I got dog piled on X for calling it a hoax just last week lol. They couldn't wrap their brains around it. I then mentioned you could selectively edit Michelle Obama’s recent quote out of context "That warms my heart, particularly as a Black man."
They didn't get it. The TDS is VERY real.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 13, 2025 12:34 PM (JCZqz)
Posted by: NR Pax at May 13, 2025 12:34 PM (OPGS/)
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Trump says "I don't like permanent enemies."
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Our worldview is much different...we can wait a thousand years...
---Iran's ruling ayatollahs
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Our worldview is much different...we can wait a thousand years...
---Iran's ruling ayatollahs
Posted by: runner at May 13, 2025 12:34 PM (g47mK)
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of choosing the lesser of two evils and realizing the enemy of my enemy is my friend. You can't have any ME policy that doesn't involve cutting deals with rabid hyenas. That, plus it means a lot of money to USA, and economic activity can help reduce conflict.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 13, 2025 12:25 PM (iFTx/)
My worry is...isn't this what brought China to prominence?
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 13, 2025 12:25 PM (iFTx/)
My worry is...isn't this what brought China to prominence?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 13, 2025 12:34 PM (KbCG3)
134
cozying up to the Saudis….
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I know what a terrible country--unless Trump had said that, of course.
Trump probably wants to throw a queer off a building as long as he is there.
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I know what a terrible country--unless Trump had said that, of course.
Trump probably wants to throw a queer off a building as long as he is there.
Posted by: Axeman at May 13, 2025 12:35 PM (krQz2)
135
Did I miss the sword dance?
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 13, 2025 12:35 PM (A2D3h)
136
Maybe the Dems would be happy if Trump traded the free plane for Don Jr. to be given a seat on the board of Saudi's largest state oil company. I mean, they were fine with Hunter...
Posted by: toddg at May 13, 2025 12:35 PM (HsIYU)
137
When they DID greet Biden, didn't they extend their left hands?
Posted by: Eeyore at May 13, 2025 12:35 PM (1bNHn)
138
Why does Saudi need hundreds of billions in weapons ?
They were invaded by the Houthis and have been fighting them for something like 10 years. Iran has even launched attacks against Saudi Arabia "in support" of the Houthis.
They were invaded by the Houthis and have been fighting them for something like 10 years. Iran has even launched attacks against Saudi Arabia "in support" of the Houthis.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at May 13, 2025 12:35 PM (iX1qt)
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Lucas Tomlinson
@LucasFoxNews
In Riyadh, Trump says he hopes Saudi Arabia will join the Abraham Accords
@LucasFoxNews
In Riyadh, Trump says he hopes Saudi Arabia will join the Abraham Accords
Posted by: redridinghood at May 13, 2025 12:35 PM (NpAcC)
140
Don’t trust SA, they may think they’re prepping the ground for a caliphate America.
Posted by: Eromero
Then you must also be expecting a Soviet and Communist America. Watch them, they're the Big Four- Trump, Putin, Xi, and bin Salman.
Posted by: Eromero
Then you must also be expecting a Soviet and Communist America. Watch them, they're the Big Four- Trump, Putin, Xi, and bin Salman.
Posted by: t-bird at May 13, 2025 12:35 PM (AU+PG)
Posted by: Scottst at May 13, 2025 12:35 PM (qcvs8)
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In theory, yes. But in reality, I'm not sure that's possible without a massive realignment of the working class in Israel. The lowest rung of workers in Israel are Palestinians, many who are day laborers entering from Gaza. Israel claims there are about 200k of them. I suspect the number is much higher. Israel is just as addicted to cheap, pliable labor as we are.
Maybe we can loan them some Guatemalans.
Maybe we can loan them some Guatemalans.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 13, 2025 12:35 PM (s8j++)
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119 It is illegal to practice any religion than Islam.
No non-muslims may be subjects of the King.
Women may not move about without a male relative.
Women are allowed to drive now in Saudi. (Insert your parallel parking jokes here)
Posted by: Ian S. at May 13, 2025 12:32 PM (QZThv)
Yes, female US military presence led to some softening. Imagine what a US business presence could do, especially one that can leave at will if it's not happy.
It's not a surprise that Trump traveled with all those high tech CEOs today...soft power projection.
No non-muslims may be subjects of the King.
Women may not move about without a male relative.
Women are allowed to drive now in Saudi. (Insert your parallel parking jokes here)
Posted by: Ian S. at May 13, 2025 12:32 PM (QZThv)
Yes, female US military presence led to some softening. Imagine what a US business presence could do, especially one that can leave at will if it's not happy.
It's not a surprise that Trump traveled with all those high tech CEOs today...soft power projection.
Posted by: Nova Local at May 13, 2025 12:35 PM (tOcjL)
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111 Don’t trust SA, they may think they’re prepping the ground for a caliphate America.
Posted by: Eromero
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That was more Obama than the Saudis. Salman has been much more pragmatic, more so after the Trump era purge of hardliners (curiously shortly after the Vegas massacre) including the odious Prince Bandar connected to the Bush family.
Saudis under Salman are actually taking slow steps to modernize the kingdom internally by allowing women to drive, etc. which is probably why the hardliners took a poke at him provoking the lockdown.
Had Salman and his father not been in power during Trump's first term, there would have been no Abraham Accords in the first place.
Posted by: Eromero
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That was more Obama than the Saudis. Salman has been much more pragmatic, more so after the Trump era purge of hardliners (curiously shortly after the Vegas massacre) including the odious Prince Bandar connected to the Bush family.
Saudis under Salman are actually taking slow steps to modernize the kingdom internally by allowing women to drive, etc. which is probably why the hardliners took a poke at him provoking the lockdown.
Had Salman and his father not been in power during Trump's first term, there would have been no Abraham Accords in the first place.
Posted by: whig at May 13, 2025 12:35 PM (ctrM5)
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133 My worry is...isn't this what brought China to prominence?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 13, 2025 12:34 PM (KbCG3)
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The direction is different.
American companies bending over backwards to get access to the Chinese market, where this is foreign companies trying to gain acceptance to access the American market.
If the Chinese example is predictive, then these other countries will become more American.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 13, 2025 12:34 PM (KbCG3)
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The direction is different.
American companies bending over backwards to get access to the Chinese market, where this is foreign companies trying to gain acceptance to access the American market.
If the Chinese example is predictive, then these other countries will become more American.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 12:35 PM (GBKbO)
146
He did it. Trump played YMCA for the Saudis. Unwavering speaks volumns
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He should follow that with "Rock The Casbah".
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He should follow that with "Rock The Casbah".
Posted by: Crusader at May 13, 2025 12:35 PM (TN0g+)
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44 35 He calls our American soldiers "suckers and losers". What a pathetic groveling punk. GOP never speaks up to defend our soldiers, and call out Krasnov's krap
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HA! The joke is on the DU, the troops love him and enlistment is waaaaay up.
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HA! The joke is on the DU, the troops love him and enlistment is waaaaay up.
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 13, 2025 12:36 PM (PMtkd)
148
104 While this is all great stuff, I'm a little curious as to what the long game is with Israel. Clearly he gave Netanyahu the smackdown, but what is next?
Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at May 13, 2025 12:30 PM (l7Uym)
What if, as part of this deal, the Qataris gave the location of Sinwar to the Saudis, the Saudis gave it to Trump, and Trump gave it to Netanyahu?
I’d say that the timing of today’s strike strongly suggests that.
Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at May 13, 2025 12:30 PM (l7Uym)
What if, as part of this deal, the Qataris gave the location of Sinwar to the Saudis, the Saudis gave it to Trump, and Trump gave it to Netanyahu?
I’d say that the timing of today’s strike strongly suggests that.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 13, 2025 12:36 PM (S+5p3)
149
https://is.gd/eOHeFh
https://is.gd/eOHeFh
Posted by: ... at May 13, 2025 12:36 PM (GPc/R)
150
Sundowner really going to meet foreign dignitaries?
Posted by: Skip at May 13, 2025 12:36 PM (ypFCm)
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147 HA! The joke is on the DU, the troops love him and enlistment is waaaaay up.
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 13, 2025 12:36 PM (PMtkd)
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False.
Without trannies, recruitment is now zero and the branches are losing their entire fighting forces by the beginning of June.
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 13, 2025 12:36 PM (PMtkd)
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False.
Without trannies, recruitment is now zero and the branches are losing their entire fighting forces by the beginning of June.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 12:36 PM (GBKbO)
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My worry is...isn't this what brought China to prominence?
I thought Bill Clinton brought China to prominence. And then Eric Swalwell brought them to the bedroom.
I thought Bill Clinton brought China to prominence. And then Eric Swalwell brought them to the bedroom.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 13, 2025 12:36 PM (QZThv)
153
In theory, yes. But in reality, I'm not sure that's possible without a massive realignment of the working class in Israel. The lowest rung of workers in Israel are Palestinians, many who are day laborers entering from Gaza. Israel claims there are about 200k of them. I suspect the number is much higher. Israel is just as addicted to cheap, pliable labor as we are.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 13, 2025 12:34 PM (iFTx/)
No doubt. Suggestion: replace the gazans with Christian Filipinos. They are cheerful folks who seem to get along with everybody. Hard workers, too.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 13, 2025 12:34 PM (iFTx/)
No doubt. Suggestion: replace the gazans with Christian Filipinos. They are cheerful folks who seem to get along with everybody. Hard workers, too.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 13, 2025 12:36 PM (t1XLA)
154
When they DID greet Biden, didn't they extend their left hands?
We made him wait, respectfully, until we were done in the porta-potty.
We made him wait, respectfully, until we were done in the porta-potty.
Posted by: SA Royals at May 13, 2025 12:37 PM (YiWOf)
155
When asked why are you willing to work with President Trump, The Crown Prince said - "The man said 'Pussy' and didn't apologize for it."
Posted by: Tonypete at May 13, 2025 12:37 PM (cYBz/)
156
138 Why does Saudi need hundreds of billions in weapons ?
They were invaded by the Houthis and have been fighting them for something like 10 years. Iran has even launched attacks against Saudi Arabia "in support" of the Houthis.
Posted by: Rob Crawford
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Including missile attacks against civilian and oil infrastructure targets. Houthis were using Iranian supplied missiles btw.
They were invaded by the Houthis and have been fighting them for something like 10 years. Iran has even launched attacks against Saudi Arabia "in support" of the Houthis.
Posted by: Rob Crawford
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Including missile attacks against civilian and oil infrastructure targets. Houthis were using Iranian supplied missiles btw.
Posted by: whig at May 13, 2025 12:37 PM (ctrM5)
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145 133 My worry is...isn't this what brought China to prominence?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 13, 2025 12:34 PM (KbCG3)
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The direction is different.
American companies bending over backwards to get access to the Chinese market, where this is foreign companies trying to gain acceptance to access the American market.
If the Chinese example is predictive, then these other countries will become more American.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 12:35 PM (GBKbO)
As soon as I wrote it I figured it out, ha.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 13, 2025 12:34 PM (KbCG3)
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The direction is different.
American companies bending over backwards to get access to the Chinese market, where this is foreign companies trying to gain acceptance to access the American market.
If the Chinese example is predictive, then these other countries will become more American.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 12:35 PM (GBKbO)
As soon as I wrote it I figured it out, ha.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 13, 2025 12:37 PM (KbCG3)
158
And no more gazans permitted to enter Israel proper. If they want to set up workshops in gaza to do value-added work on Israeli goods, to earn income, fine. But zero work visas.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 13, 2025 12:28 PM (t1XLA)
The Israeli AWFLs aren’t about to start cutting their own grass or cleaning their own houses. Those are jobs for Palestinians.
It’s very much like how AWFLs in leafy suburbs here are perfectly fine with an open border. They need Miguel and Jose to do their dirty work.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 13, 2025 12:28 PM (t1XLA)
The Israeli AWFLs aren’t about to start cutting their own grass or cleaning their own houses. Those are jobs for Palestinians.
It’s very much like how AWFLs in leafy suburbs here are perfectly fine with an open border. They need Miguel and Jose to do their dirty work.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 13, 2025 12:37 PM (d4dD2)
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>> You can't have any ME policy that doesn't involve cutting deals with rabid hyenas.
Sure you can. Get out and stay out.
Sure you can. Get out and stay out.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 13, 2025 12:37 PM (l3YAf)
160
In Riyadh, Trump says he hopes Saudi Arabia will join the Abraham Accords
Posted by: redridinghood
I thought they already had.
Posted by: redridinghood
I thought they already had.
Posted by: Bulg at May 13, 2025 12:37 PM (77rzZ)
161
They didn't get it. The TDS is VERY real.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 13, 2025 12:34 PM (JCZqz)
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That's very common, I've observed.
They either have sympathy for somebody or don't care what happens to them.
It's just their emotionally-locked "thinking".
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 13, 2025 12:34 PM (JCZqz)
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That's very common, I've observed.
They either have sympathy for somebody or don't care what happens to them.
It's just their emotionally-locked "thinking".
Posted by: Axeman at May 13, 2025 12:38 PM (krQz2)
162
No doubt. Suggestion: replace the gazans with Christian Filipinos. They are cheerful folks who seem to get along with everybody. Hard workers, too.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 13, 2025 12:36 PM (t1XLA)
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This is already happening on a very small scale. Israel just has to say no and keep it that way.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 13, 2025 12:36 PM (t1XLA)
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This is already happening on a very small scale. Israel just has to say no and keep it that way.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 13, 2025 12:38 PM (lkmGL)
163
Trump probably wants to throw a queer off a building as long as he is there.
Posted by: Axeman at May 13, 2025 12:35 PM (krQz2)
Is that an industry there like Thailand is for ladyboys? Asking for a friend.
Posted by: Axeman at May 13, 2025 12:35 PM (krQz2)
Is that an industry there like Thailand is for ladyboys? Asking for a friend.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 13, 2025 12:38 PM (i24o9)
164
Wait until the penguins come happy-footing through despoiling everything and everyone.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
Trump set to annouce bilateral agreement between the oppressed river otter/penguin alliance. We will join forces to fight bigotry and unfair snide, remarks from persons of low station. We march onward-together. A force for good against all naysayers and ne'er do-wells. Join our coalition! Excelsior!
Posted by: Duncanthrax
Trump set to annouce bilateral agreement between the oppressed river otter/penguin alliance. We will join forces to fight bigotry and unfair snide, remarks from persons of low station. We march onward-together. A force for good against all naysayers and ne'er do-wells. Join our coalition! Excelsior!
Posted by: Merry Marching Penguin/River Otter Majority at May 13, 2025 12:38 PM (G5+As)
165
157 As soon as I wrote it I figured it out, ha.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 13, 2025 12:37 PM (KbCG3)
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Well, then I wasted my efforts!
*weeps bitterly but manfully*
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 13, 2025 12:37 PM (KbCG3)
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Well, then I wasted my efforts!
*weeps bitterly but manfully*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 12:38 PM (GBKbO)
166
False.
Without trannies, recruitment is now zero and the branches are losing their entire fighting forces by the beginning of June.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 12:36 PM (GBKbO)
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*checks internet*
*internet search confirms*
Rates TJM's comment as true due to internet always being correct.
Without trannies, recruitment is now zero and the branches are losing their entire fighting forces by the beginning of June.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 12:36 PM (GBKbO)
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*checks internet*
*internet search confirms*
Rates TJM's comment as true due to internet always being correct.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 13, 2025 12:38 PM (tT6L1)
167
Taxpayers are footing the bill for her mortgage fraud case?
Posted by: Lady in Black at May 13, 2025 12:32 PM (qBdHI)
There's no graft like slap you in the face with their dick graft.
Taxpayers are footing the bill for her mortgage fraud case?
Posted by: Lady in Black at May 13, 2025 12:32 PM (qBdHI)
There's no graft like slap you in the face with their dick graft.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 13, 2025 12:38 PM (JA4sW)
168
What time period is the $600B over?
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Whatever the time frame, I hope its a round number.
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Whatever the time frame, I hope its a round number.
Posted by: Crusader at May 13, 2025 12:39 PM (TN0g+)
169
Journalists covering President Donald Trump’s arrival to Saudi Arabia on Tuesday observed the presence of a mobile McDonald’s set up at a press center for covering the event in Riyadh, an apparent nod to the president’s love of the burger restaurant.
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Contrast with China forcing Kissinger to eat pork.
An insult and a test.
Knowing that, if he was willing to violate his religious tenants, he'd agree to anything they wanted.
One is power.
One was craven
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Contrast with China forcing Kissinger to eat pork.
An insult and a test.
Knowing that, if he was willing to violate his religious tenants, he'd agree to anything they wanted.
One is power.
One was craven
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 13, 2025 12:39 PM (NwfFc)
170
"Diplomacy is sitting across the table from the other guy with 1000 missiles pointed at his head."
"Diplomacy is sitting across the table from the other guy with 1000 missiles pointed at his head."
Posted by: ... at May 13, 2025 12:39 PM (GPc/R)
171
Hawaiian judge will rule no new investments.
Posted by: torabora at May 13, 2025 12:39 PM (i3x5Y)
172
America has enough capital. We don't need foreign money and all the strings that come with it.
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at May 13, 2025 12:39 PM (5IFb9)
173
Those damn women drivers just keep running into the sandbanks.
Posted by: wth at May 13, 2025 12:40 PM (v0R5T)
174
I know there is a ceasefire (thanks to Trump), is there any other news on the Pakistan/India dust-up?
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 13, 2025 12:40 PM (PMtkd)
175
Sundown you better take care, If find you've been a pootin round my bach stairs.
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 13, 2025 12:40 PM (A2D3h)
176
As long as it doesn’t bring more Muslims into America
Posted by: Gonzotx at May 13, 2025 12:40 PM (nGraA)
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He did it. Trump played YMCA for the Saudis. Unwavering speaks volumns
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He should follow that with "Rock The Casbah".
Posted by: Crusader at May 13, 2025 12:35 PM (TN0g+)
And Walk Like an Egyptian.
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He should follow that with "Rock The Casbah".
Posted by: Crusader at May 13, 2025 12:35 PM (TN0g+)
And Walk Like an Egyptian.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 13, 2025 12:40 PM (i24o9)
178
My worry is...isn't this what brought China to prominence?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 13, 2025 12:34 PM (KbCG3)
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The direction is different.
American companies bending over backwards to get access to the Chinese market, where this is foreign companies trying to gain acceptance to access the American market.
If the Chinese example is predictive, then these other countries will become more American.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 12:35 PM (GBKbO)
As soon as I wrote it I figured it out, ha.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 13, 2025 12:37 PM (KbCG3)
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I would add that the Chinese arrangement was also completely -- and probably deliberately -- botched by Democraps desperate to sell out Americans to their Chinese paymasters. It could have worked out better, had the tariff regime looked more like Trump's does now.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 13, 2025 12:34 PM (KbCG3)
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The direction is different.
American companies bending over backwards to get access to the Chinese market, where this is foreign companies trying to gain acceptance to access the American market.
If the Chinese example is predictive, then these other countries will become more American.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 12:35 PM (GBKbO)
As soon as I wrote it I figured it out, ha.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 13, 2025 12:37 PM (KbCG3)
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I would add that the Chinese arrangement was also completely -- and probably deliberately -- botched by Democraps desperate to sell out Americans to their Chinese paymasters. It could have worked out better, had the tariff regime looked more like Trump's does now.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 13, 2025 12:41 PM (iFTx/)
179
Next they'll be telling us he said Nazis were "fine people".
Posted by: ...
Noting that nazis generally weren't as bad as degenerate perverts, faggots, and pedos that preceded them does make them "fine people".
Posted by: ...
Noting that nazis generally weren't as bad as degenerate perverts, faggots, and pedos that preceded them does make them "fine people".
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 13, 2025 12:41 PM (agYoY)
180
Taxpayers are footing the bill for her mortgage fraud case?
Well, you WERE the ones paying those mortgages, after all...
Well, you WERE the ones paying those mortgages, after all...
Posted by: NY State at May 13, 2025 12:41 PM (tJ2Kx)
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And Walk Like an Egyptian.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 13, 2025 12:40 PM (i24
Midnight At The Oasis
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 13, 2025 12:40 PM (i24
Midnight At The Oasis
Posted by: It's me donna at May 13, 2025 12:41 PM (VE6XX)
182
If President Trump can he should revoke Sundowner 's passport so he doesn't hurt himself or others
Posted by: Skip at May 13, 2025 12:42 PM (ypFCm)
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My worry is...isn't this what brought China to prominence?
I thought Bill Clinton brought China to prominence. And then Eric Swalwell brought them to the bedroom.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 13, 2025 12:36 PM (QZThv)
Clinton gave them hope. Swalwell brought them disappointment, prematurely.
I thought Bill Clinton brought China to prominence. And then Eric Swalwell brought them to the bedroom.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 13, 2025 12:36 PM (QZThv)
Clinton gave them hope. Swalwell brought them disappointment, prematurely.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 13, 2025 12:42 PM (i24o9)
184
Bulg, family first always. I hope you are able to repair those relationships. I had to learn to to never make any comment even remotely political with my sisters to keep the peace. Hard to believe sometimes that we grew up in the same household.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 13, 2025 12:42 PM (t/2Uw)
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11 >>>White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt called the trip "a cornerstone" of Trump's broader Middle East doctrine: defeating extremism not through endless wars, but through commerce, cultural engagement, and military cooperation.
DIME
DIME
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 13, 2025 12:42 PM (WqK+k)
186
As has been noted, Trump is angling for his own mountain, I second who ever said Trumps visage should be carved into the side of Devils Tower.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 13, 2025 12:42 PM (XV/Pl)
187
I once had pockets full of sand.
Posted by: Gordon Lightfoot at May 13, 2025 12:23 PM (s8j++)
Beats Kryptonite.
Posted by: Spin Doctors
And brass.
Posted by: Gordon Lightfoot at May 13, 2025 12:23 PM (s8j++)
Beats Kryptonite.
Posted by: Spin Doctors
And brass.
Posted by: The Pretenders at May 13, 2025 12:42 PM (YBcW4)
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In theory, yes. But in reality, I'm not sure that's possible without a massive realignment of the working class in Israel. The lowest rung of workers in Israel are Palestinians, many who are day laborers entering from Gaza. Israel claims there are about 200k of them. I suspect the number is much higher. Israel is just as addicted to cheap, pliable labor as we are.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 13, 2025 12:34 PM (iFTx/)
No doubt. Suggestion: replace the gazans with Christian Filipinos. They are cheerful folks who seem to get along with everybody. Hard workers, too.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 13, 2025 12:36 PM (t1XLA)
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True. See my comment above about how all these problems become much easier to solve if we somehow get rid of all Palestinians.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 13, 2025 12:34 PM (iFTx/)
No doubt. Suggestion: replace the gazans with Christian Filipinos. They are cheerful folks who seem to get along with everybody. Hard workers, too.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 13, 2025 12:36 PM (t1XLA)
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True. See my comment above about how all these problems become much easier to solve if we somehow get rid of all Palestinians.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 13, 2025 12:42 PM (iFTx/)
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Midnight At The Oasis
Posted by: It's me donna
Oh my - there's an earworm I could have done without. Although it did take me back to the mid 70's immediately.
Posted by: It's me donna
Oh my - there's an earworm I could have done without. Although it did take me back to the mid 70's immediately.
Posted by: Tonypete at May 13, 2025 12:43 PM (cYBz/)
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188 True. See my comment above about how all these problems become much easier to solve if we somehow get rid of all Palestinians.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 13, 2025 12:42 PM (iFTx/)
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Antarctica has much land.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 13, 2025 12:42 PM (iFTx/)
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Antarctica has much land.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 12:43 PM (GBKbO)
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What do the Israelis do with the Palestinians? No other country wants them. Besides building suicide bombs, what commerce will come into or out of Gaza?
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 13, 2025 12:44 PM (PMtkd)
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Good afternoon all!!
If Trump gets the Saudis to dance to YMCA, I don't see how he doesn't win the Nobel Peace Prize.
If Trump gets the Saudis to dance to YMCA, I don't see how he doesn't win the Nobel Peace Prize.
Posted by: jmel at May 13, 2025 12:44 PM (RWHIh)
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They were invaded by the Houthis and have been fighting them for something like 10 years. Iran has even launched attacks against Saudi Arabia "in support" of the Houthis.
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We already supplied 64B to them in military equipment over 10 years, in addition to defense assets and tacit and not so tacit military protection. Which included intelligence, defense capabilities and "Iran proxy management" as is going on right now with the Houthis. 164B is a massive increase.
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We already supplied 64B to them in military equipment over 10 years, in addition to defense assets and tacit and not so tacit military protection. Which included intelligence, defense capabilities and "Iran proxy management" as is going on right now with the Houthis. 164B is a massive increase.
Posted by: runner at May 13, 2025 12:44 PM (g47mK)
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In fact it is billed as the "largest" defense package evah.
Posted by: runner at May 13, 2025 12:44 PM (g47mK)
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Everyone remember when Foxconn made the big announcement in 2017. $10B investment in Wisconsin. Would create 15,000 jobs. It was yuuuge news at the time.
The 15k jobs ended up being 1000 jobs and $10b ended up being a few hundred million. Still not a bad thing, but nowhere near what the headlines said.
Just keep that in mind when numbers like $600B are thrown around.
The 15k jobs ended up being 1000 jobs and $10b ended up being a few hundred million. Still not a bad thing, but nowhere near what the headlines said.
Just keep that in mind when numbers like $600B are thrown around.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 13, 2025 12:45 PM (d4dD2)
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True. See my comment above about how all these problems become much easier to solve if we somehow get rid of all Palestinians.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 13, 2025 12:42 PM (iFTx/)
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Antarctica has much land.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 12:43 PM (GBKbO)
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"Fuck that. We don't want those smelly diseased rats puking and bleeding all over our ice. Send them to ... Komodo Island."
-- Big Penguin
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 13, 2025 12:42 PM (iFTx/)
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Antarctica has much land.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 12:43 PM (GBKbO)
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"Fuck that. We don't want those smelly diseased rats puking and bleeding all over our ice. Send them to ... Komodo Island."
-- Big Penguin
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 13, 2025 12:45 PM (iFTx/)
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True. See my comment above about how all these problems become much easier to solve if we somehow get rid of all Palestinians.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 13, 2025 12:42 PM (iFTx/)
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Antarctica has much land.
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Would the Penguins tolerate the Palestinians?
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 13, 2025 12:42 PM (iFTx/)
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Antarctica has much land.
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Would the Penguins tolerate the Palestinians?
Posted by: Crusader at May 13, 2025 12:45 PM (TN0g+)
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104 While this is all great stuff, I'm a little curious as to what the long game is with Israel. Clearly he gave Netanyahu the smackdown, but what is next?
Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix
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Netanyahu apparently met with Waltz privately first before meeting Trump during his Washington visit. Both favored immediate attacks on Iran and Trump wanted to try diplomacy first. That, rather than Signal gate was the apparent reason for the lateral Waltz move to UN ambassador.
Some scuttlebutt over Waltz's Signal app which apparently had Israeli company addons to the base version.
Then there has been recent tension between Trump's desire to settle the Gaza conflict, get aid in, and get American hostages back rather than escalate versus the Israeli government stance on sending more troops in to settle the issue.
That could simply be both Israelis and US differing in public facing matters for diplomatic reasons so as to act differently in private or could show a real divergence.
I think Bibi though by his actions in US politics over the years has put himself, not Israel particularly, in the position that Trump does not trust him.
Totally IMHO based on Israeli and US reports.
Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix
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Netanyahu apparently met with Waltz privately first before meeting Trump during his Washington visit. Both favored immediate attacks on Iran and Trump wanted to try diplomacy first. That, rather than Signal gate was the apparent reason for the lateral Waltz move to UN ambassador.
Some scuttlebutt over Waltz's Signal app which apparently had Israeli company addons to the base version.
Then there has been recent tension between Trump's desire to settle the Gaza conflict, get aid in, and get American hostages back rather than escalate versus the Israeli government stance on sending more troops in to settle the issue.
That could simply be both Israelis and US differing in public facing matters for diplomatic reasons so as to act differently in private or could show a real divergence.
I think Bibi though by his actions in US politics over the years has put himself, not Israel particularly, in the position that Trump does not trust him.
Totally IMHO based on Israeli and US reports.
Posted by: whig at May 13, 2025 12:45 PM (ctrM5)
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172 America has enough capital. We don't need foreign money and all the strings that come with it.
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at May 13, 2025 12:39 PM (5IFb9)
That is kind of my thought. There are strings. To an extent, that is the deal with the plane that I care about.
Trump thinks like a real estate developer. So he figures he needs to seek out investment to help make his dream come true. Strings, though.
The thing is this is not complete wrong think. This is not unlike accepting the aid and energy of Elon. The difference is: there is a world of difference in the world view of Elon Musk vs the Saudis.
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at May 13, 2025 12:39 PM (5IFb9)
That is kind of my thought. There are strings. To an extent, that is the deal with the plane that I care about.
Trump thinks like a real estate developer. So he figures he needs to seek out investment to help make his dream come true. Strings, though.
The thing is this is not complete wrong think. This is not unlike accepting the aid and energy of Elon. The difference is: there is a world of difference in the world view of Elon Musk vs the Saudis.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 13, 2025 12:45 PM (bss/y)
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New York legislature passes long-delayed state budget — including provision for AG Letitia James’ criminal defense
Posted by: SMOD
Think of it as Credit of Attainder
Posted by: SMOD
Think of it as Credit of Attainder
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 13, 2025 12:45 PM (agYoY)
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Snake Island is vacant.
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 13, 2025 12:45 PM (A2D3h)
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195 Everyone remember when Foxconn made the big announcement in 2017. $10B investment in Wisconsin. Would create 15,000 jobs. It was yuuuge news at the time.
The 15k jobs ended up being 1000 jobs and $10b ended up being a few hundred million. Still not a bad thing, but nowhere near what the headlines said.
Just keep that in mind when numbers like $600B are thrown around.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 13, 2025 12:45 PM (d4dD2)
Who spit in your oatmeal ?
The 15k jobs ended up being 1000 jobs and $10b ended up being a few hundred million. Still not a bad thing, but nowhere near what the headlines said.
Just keep that in mind when numbers like $600B are thrown around.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 13, 2025 12:45 PM (d4dD2)
Who spit in your oatmeal ?
Posted by: It's me donna at May 13, 2025 12:45 PM (VE6XX)
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And Walk Like an Egyptian.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 13, 2025 12:40 PM (i24
Midnight At The Oasis
Posted by: It's me donna at May 13, 2025 12:41 PM (VE6XX)
Killing an Arab?
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 13, 2025 12:40 PM (i24
Midnight At The Oasis
Posted by: It's me donna at May 13, 2025 12:41 PM (VE6XX)
Killing an Arab?
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 13, 2025 12:46 PM (i24o9)
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The only way I can explain it is we are stepping back and allowing Saudi to take care of most of its own defense needs.
Posted by: runner at May 13, 2025 12:46 PM (g47mK)
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I think and pray that there is a deeper understanding and analysis of the Iranian leadership mindset then what PDT verbalizes. I think there is a significant portion of the Iranian leadership who are ardent believers in the 12th Iman eschatology. That doesn't lend itself to negotiations and compromise. Personally, I see alot of things going boom in Iran's future.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * poorly trained emotional support moron at May 13, 2025 12:46 PM (Uzn0I)
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So this deal with SA should placate the military-industrial complex without us having to invade Iran.
Good.
Good.
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 13, 2025 12:46 PM (PMtkd)
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I see that the House's "big, beautiful: bill does not include the SS tax exemption for seniors.
Posted by: Ordinary American at May 13, 2025 12:46 PM (vsTPo)
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I read this as "clown prince."
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 13, 2025 12:17 PM (JA4sW)
He juggles.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 13, 2025 12:17 PM (JA4sW)
He juggles.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 13, 2025 12:46 PM (ExV1e)
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So this deal with SA should placate the military-industrial complex without us having to invade Iran.
Good.
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 13, 2025 12:46 PM (PMtkd)
That's my hope.
Good.
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 13, 2025 12:46 PM (PMtkd)
That's my hope.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 13, 2025 12:47 PM (i24o9)
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Personally, I see alot of things going boom in Iran's future.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * poorly trained emotional support moron at May 13, 2025 12:46 PM (Uzn0I)
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I hope it's Israel who does it.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * poorly trained emotional support moron at May 13, 2025 12:46 PM (Uzn0I)
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I hope it's Israel who does it.
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 13, 2025 12:47 PM (PMtkd)
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https://legalinsurrection.com/compassion with limits-episcopal church shuts door on white afrikaner refugees
Woke to the last drop
Woke to the last drop
Posted by: Skip at May 13, 2025 12:47 PM (ypFCm)
Posted by: It's a classic at May 13, 2025 12:49 PM (YmTKR)
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@120
>>Taxpayers are footing the bill for her mortgage fraud case?
Apparently so, they will show their anger by re-electing her by something slightly less than a landslide.
>>Taxpayers are footing the bill for her mortgage fraud case?
Apparently so, they will show their anger by re-electing her by something slightly less than a landslide.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 13, 2025 12:49 PM (XV/Pl)
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Holy cow, how are we going to unwind all this once he's gone?
Posted by: The GOPe at May 13, 2025 12:18 PM (oxFkd)
Step 1: Find a severe, rock-ribbed conservative to run against Vance in the primaries. Maybe someone with military service. Maybe someone with a service related injury. Dan Crenshaw, perhaps. Then we kill everyone who loves the US. -- GOP consultants
Posted by: The GOPe at May 13, 2025 12:18 PM (oxFkd)
Step 1: Find a severe, rock-ribbed conservative to run against Vance in the primaries. Maybe someone with military service. Maybe someone with a service related injury. Dan Crenshaw, perhaps. Then we kill everyone who loves the US. -- GOP consultants
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 13, 2025 12:49 PM (ExV1e)
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US was never going to invade Iran. This is about preventing Israel from finishing them off. Apparently fkng snake Tony Blair is "advising" Trump's ME envoy...because he is out of depth?
Posted by: runner at May 13, 2025 12:49 PM (g47mK)
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What if, as part of this deal, the Qataris gave the location of Sinwar to the Saudis, the Saudis gave it to Trump, and Trump gave it to Netanyahu?
I’d say that the timing of today’s strike strongly suggests that.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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Might be possible if Qatar views it in their interests to increase the odds of Trump settling the Gaza mess.
In natsec and diplomacy, we only see the tip of the iceberg in media reports. We find out the rest of it years later when memoirs get peddled.
I’d say that the timing of today’s strike strongly suggests that.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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Might be possible if Qatar views it in their interests to increase the odds of Trump settling the Gaza mess.
In natsec and diplomacy, we only see the tip of the iceberg in media reports. We find out the rest of it years later when memoirs get peddled.
Posted by: whig at May 13, 2025 12:49 PM (ctrM5)
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So this deal with SA should placate the military-industrial complex without us having to invade Iran.
Good.
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 13, 2025 12:46 PM (PMtkd)
I would like the opposite of those two things - although my definition of "invade" is probably quite different than the traditional one.
Good.
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 13, 2025 12:46 PM (PMtkd)
I would like the opposite of those two things - although my definition of "invade" is probably quite different than the traditional one.
Posted by: ... at May 13, 2025 12:50 PM (GPc/R)
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211 https://legalinsurrection.com/compassion with limits-episcopal church shuts door on white afrikaner refugees
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Ho-LEE-Shit. The episcopal church is absolute trash.
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Ho-LEE-Shit. The episcopal church is absolute trash.
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 13, 2025 12:50 PM (PMtkd)
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For a dyed in the wool liberal from childhood (his dad was spied upon by Nixon), it's hilarious to watch Mark Halperin grudgingly accept that Trump is an effective and reasonable leader.
Posted by: actually inside the beltway at May 13, 2025 12:50 PM (LNOmA)
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Selling the Sauds billions in weapons is a win win for US. Puts a lot of Americans to me and allows the Saids to kill other Muslims. They haven't used them against bus or Israel, so no problem
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 13, 2025 12:50 PM (2ZThz)
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Who spit in your oatmeal ?
Posted by: It's me donna at May 13, 2025 12:45 PM (VE6XX)
I hate oatmeal.
But that aside, shit like this happens all the time. Saudis were supposedly going to build that linear city. It was all a pipe dream. What about that “tallest building in the world” they started 10 years ago and never completed? The Saudis have a bad habit of doing shit like this.
Posted by: It's me donna at May 13, 2025 12:45 PM (VE6XX)
I hate oatmeal.
But that aside, shit like this happens all the time. Saudis were supposedly going to build that linear city. It was all a pipe dream. What about that “tallest building in the world” they started 10 years ago and never completed? The Saudis have a bad habit of doing shit like this.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 13, 2025 12:50 PM (d4dD2)
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214 Step 1: Find a severe, rock-ribbed conservative to run against Vance in the primaries. Maybe someone with military service. Maybe someone with a service related injury. Dan Crenshaw, perhaps. Then we kill everyone who loves the US. -- GOP consultants
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 13, 2025 12:49 PM (ExV1e)
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"Also, Crenshaw will have to only say open borders things. If he says anything less in public, we won't trust him. We will also not understand when he can't convert $250 million in donations into any delegates."
-GOP Consultants
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 13, 2025 12:49 PM (ExV1e)
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"Also, Crenshaw will have to only say open borders things. If he says anything less in public, we won't trust him. We will also not understand when he can't convert $250 million in donations into any delegates."
-GOP Consultants
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 12:50 PM (GBKbO)
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We be hopes Presdent obana went with that idiot Trump to Sandi Arabia because the King loves Presdent Obama.
Presdent Obama will makes good deels fore America and nots Trump.
Presdent Obama will makes good deels fore America and nots Trump.
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro,Vt at May 13, 2025 12:51 PM (FDlb9)
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218 211 https://legalinsurrection.com/compassion with limits-episcopal church shuts door on white afrikaner refugees
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Ho-LEE-Shit. The episcopal church is absolute trash.
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 13, 2025 12:50 PM (PMtkd)
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$5 says they're actually shutting down because fed government grants have dried up, and they're using this as an excuse to make themselves look good to their last remaining private donors.
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Ho-LEE-Shit. The episcopal church is absolute trash.
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 13, 2025 12:50 PM (PMtkd)
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$5 says they're actually shutting down because fed government grants have dried up, and they're using this as an excuse to make themselves look good to their last remaining private donors.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 12:51 PM (GBKbO)
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Everyone remember when Foxconn made the big announcement in 2017. $10B investment in Wisconsin. Would create 15,000 jobs. It was yuuuge news at the time.
The 15k jobs ended up being 1000 jobs and $10b ended up being a few hundred million. Still not a bad thing, but nowhere near what the headlines said.
Just keep that in mind when numbers like $600B are thrown around.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 13, 2025 12:45 PM (d4dD2)
These things often don’t work out. Expect a future administration to go wobbly.
Also, President AOC will sanction any country that cut sweetheart deals with Trump.
The 15k jobs ended up being 1000 jobs and $10b ended up being a few hundred million. Still not a bad thing, but nowhere near what the headlines said.
Just keep that in mind when numbers like $600B are thrown around.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 13, 2025 12:45 PM (d4dD2)
These things often don’t work out. Expect a future administration to go wobbly.
Also, President AOC will sanction any country that cut sweetheart deals with Trump.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 13, 2025 12:51 PM (l3YAf)
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Noting that nazis generally weren't as bad as degenerate perverts, faggots, and pedos that preceded them does make them "fine people".
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 13, 2025 12:41 PM (agYoY)
Mmm. I read an article about that once. I did not like where the little blue hyperlink thingies directed my browser to.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 13, 2025 12:41 PM (agYoY)
Mmm. I read an article about that once. I did not like where the little blue hyperlink thingies directed my browser to.
Posted by: ... at May 13, 2025 12:52 PM (GPc/R)
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We are losing flavored vapes in my state on New Years Eve.
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 13, 2025 12:52 PM (A2D3h)
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$5 says they're actually shutting down because fed government grants have dried up, and they're using this as an excuse to make themselves look good to their last remaining private donors.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 12:51 PM (GBKbO)
They just hate white people. It’s not that complicated.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 12:51 PM (GBKbO)
They just hate white people. It’s not that complicated.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 13, 2025 12:52 PM (l3YAf)
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I think Trump is currying favor with SA with regards to potential strikes on Iran. Those talks, about Iran's nuclear ambitions aren't going well as I understand it.
YMMV
YMMV
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 13, 2025 12:52 PM (Q4IgG)
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2Way: must-watch political commentary. Great 'get' by Megyn Kelly.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 13, 2025 12:52 PM (903es)
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OT/Looks like they really are giving pillow biter Hogg the boot...
Posted by: It's me donna at May 13, 2025 12:52 PM (VE6XX)
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BTW… $600B is great but I don’t like cozying up to the Saudis…. But it they’re a counterbalance to Iran so realpolitik I guess
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 13, 2025 12:19 PM (5MZNC)
We've been cozied up to the Saudis since Carter convinced the Iranians to go cuckoo for cocoa puffs. I suppose Trump could say that they're icky and they smell but then the comments would be filled with people telling us what a buffoon he is.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 13, 2025 12:19 PM (5MZNC)
We've been cozied up to the Saudis since Carter convinced the Iranians to go cuckoo for cocoa puffs. I suppose Trump could say that they're icky and they smell but then the comments would be filled with people telling us what a buffoon he is.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 13, 2025 12:53 PM (ExV1e)
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The US is not the West Coast and the East Coast. The Heartland cuts their own damn grass
Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 13, 2025 12:53 PM (AcTAo)
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compassion with limits-episcopal church shuts door on white afrikaner refugees
Wow. They'll need someone to shut the doors on all the churches, too. I left long ago.
Wow. They'll need someone to shut the doors on all the churches, too. I left long ago.
Posted by: t-bird at May 13, 2025 12:53 PM (Vngri)
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215 US was never going to invade Iran. This is about preventing Israel from finishing them off. Apparently fkng snake Tony Blair is "advising" Trump's ME envoy...because he is out of depth?
Posted by: runner at May 13, 2025 12:49 PM (g47mK)
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Holy shit, Tony Blair should be in jail. Eff that guy.
Posted by: runner at May 13, 2025 12:49 PM (g47mK)
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Holy shit, Tony Blair should be in jail. Eff that guy.
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 13, 2025 12:53 PM (PMtkd)
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Apparently fkng snake Tony Blair is "advising" Trump's ME envoy...because he is out of depth?
Posted by: runner at May 13, 2025 12:49 PM (g47mK)
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If true, something is very rotten here.
Posted by: runner at May 13, 2025 12:49 PM (g47mK)
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If true, something is very rotten here.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 13, 2025 12:53 PM (lkmGL)
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Also, President AOC will sanction any country that cut sweetheart deals with Trump.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 13, 2025 12:51 PM (l3YAf
David Hogg, her Secretary of State, will dismantle all the deals.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 13, 2025 12:51 PM (l3YAf
David Hogg, her Secretary of State, will dismantle all the deals.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 13, 2025 12:53 PM (d4dD2)
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234 compassion with limits-episcopal church shuts door on white afrikaner refugees
Wow. They'll need someone to shut the doors on all the churches, too. I left long ago.
Posted by: t-bird at May 13, 2025 12:53 PM (Vngri)
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They just hate attractive blonde women:
https://x.com/TheRoyalSerf/status/1922097304682524780
Wow. They'll need someone to shut the doors on all the churches, too. I left long ago.
Posted by: t-bird at May 13, 2025 12:53 PM (Vngri)
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They just hate attractive blonde women:
https://x.com/TheRoyalSerf/status/1922097304682524780
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 12:54 PM (GBKbO)
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>> We are losing flavored vapes in my state on New Years Eve.
Did you look in the couch cushions? That’s usually where my weed vape pen ends up.
Did you look in the couch cushions? That’s usually where my weed vape pen ends up.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 13, 2025 12:54 PM (l3YAf)
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Is Hogg squealing like a pig?
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 13, 2025 12:54 PM (A2D3h)
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Quite the reception Trump received from the Saudis:
AF1 escorted in by Saudi fighter jets
Met at the Tarmac by the Crown Prince himself.
Beautifully laid out with lavender runner carpets, full military presence at attention with American flags.
White Arabian horses escorted the "beast" and POTUS to the Saudi Palace with the riders holding American flags.
A truly royal welcome.
Posted by: Cheri at May 13, 2025 12:21 PM (oiNtH)
He got the sword dance last time which, I guess, is not something normally done.
AF1 escorted in by Saudi fighter jets
Met at the Tarmac by the Crown Prince himself.
Beautifully laid out with lavender runner carpets, full military presence at attention with American flags.
White Arabian horses escorted the "beast" and POTUS to the Saudi Palace with the riders holding American flags.
A truly royal welcome.
Posted by: Cheri at May 13, 2025 12:21 PM (oiNtH)
He got the sword dance last time which, I guess, is not something normally done.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 13, 2025 12:54 PM (ExV1e)
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I hope it's Israel who does it.
Posted by: Seems Legit
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I don't think they have the equipment to reach the really deep bunkers. For that, you need strategic bombers and really huge/heavy bunker busting bombs to have a chance.
Israel has no such bombers nor bombs and unless Israeli goes nuke on them, missile payloads lack the ability to do it either.
One of the more interesting applications though would be the infamous rods from god strategy put forth by people like Jerry Pournelle. Non nuclear but you could do repeated attacks using these guided tungsten steel rods from orbit that could woodpecker their way into deep bunkers and doing destruction/penetration simply by sheer velocity alone.
Posted by: Seems Legit
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I don't think they have the equipment to reach the really deep bunkers. For that, you need strategic bombers and really huge/heavy bunker busting bombs to have a chance.
Israel has no such bombers nor bombs and unless Israeli goes nuke on them, missile payloads lack the ability to do it either.
One of the more interesting applications though would be the infamous rods from god strategy put forth by people like Jerry Pournelle. Non nuclear but you could do repeated attacks using these guided tungsten steel rods from orbit that could woodpecker their way into deep bunkers and doing destruction/penetration simply by sheer velocity alone.
Posted by: whig at May 13, 2025 12:54 PM (ctrM5)
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OT/Looks like they really are giving pillow biter Hogg the boot...
Posted by: It's me donna at May 13, 2025 12:52 PM (VE6XX)
I don't care any which way and it rarely does, but how funny would it be if this turns him into a conservative. This could be his villain origin story.
Posted by: It's me donna at May 13, 2025 12:52 PM (VE6XX)
I don't care any which way and it rarely does, but how funny would it be if this turns him into a conservative. This could be his villain origin story.
Posted by: ... at May 13, 2025 12:54 PM (GPc/R)
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Other benefits:
* Keeps Saudis out of the China orbit.
* Reward Saudis for being more Israel-friendly. Carrot-and-stick notice to others in region.
* Provides further momentum on the international trade & tariffs negotiations. Deals beget deals, and demoralize anti-Trump dead-enders.
* Keeps Saudis out of the China orbit.
* Reward Saudis for being more Israel-friendly. Carrot-and-stick notice to others in region.
* Provides further momentum on the international trade & tariffs negotiations. Deals beget deals, and demoralize anti-Trump dead-enders.
Posted by: KLA at May 13, 2025 12:54 PM (R1Eqe)
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OT/Looks like they really are giving pillow biter Hogg the boot...
Apparently there were election integrity issues with just his race. And they are all about election integrity!
Apparently there were election integrity issues with just his race. And they are all about election integrity!
Posted by: t-bird at May 13, 2025 12:54 PM (Vngri)
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SORRY MARY, BUT SAUDI'S DO NOT LIKE HOMOS !!!!!!!!!!
223 We be hopes Presdent obana went with that idiot Trump to Sandi Arabia because the King loves Presdent Obama.
Presdent Obama will makes good deels fore America and nots Trump.
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro,Vt
SORRY MARY, BUT SAUDI'S DO NOT LIKE HOMOS !!!!!!!!!!
223 We be hopes Presdent obana went with that idiot Trump to Sandi Arabia because the King loves Presdent Obama.
Presdent Obama will makes good deels fore America and nots Trump.
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro,Vt
Posted by: Buster Hymand at May 13, 2025 12:54 PM (FDlb9)
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243 OT/Looks like they really are giving pillow biter Hogg the boot...
Posted by: It's me donna at May 13, 2025 12:52 PM (VE6XX)
I don't care any which way and it rarely does, but how funny would it be if this turns him into a conservative. This could be his villain origin story.
Posted by: ... at May 13, 2025 12:54 PM (GPc/R)
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He'll just move on to another grift.
If he hadn't used the DNC's email list for his own personal fundraising, probably none of this would be happening.
Posted by: It's me donna at May 13, 2025 12:52 PM (VE6XX)
I don't care any which way and it rarely does, but how funny would it be if this turns him into a conservative. This could be his villain origin story.
Posted by: ... at May 13, 2025 12:54 PM (GPc/R)
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He'll just move on to another grift.
If he hadn't used the DNC's email list for his own personal fundraising, probably none of this would be happening.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 12:55 PM (GBKbO)
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$5 says they're actually shutting down because fed government grants have dried up, and they're using this as an excuse to make themselves look good to their last remaining private donors.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 12:51 PM (GBKbO)
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That's a pretty good take on it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 12:51 PM (GBKbO)
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That's a pretty good take on it.
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 13, 2025 12:55 PM (PMtkd)
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No. Vapes that don't taste like cigarettes are not approved by the FDA.
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 13, 2025 12:55 PM (A2D3h)
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Trump knows who signs his paychecks. And submits the proper obeisance. All while he's having U.S. Generals fired. How long will this shit go on?
He calls our American soldiers "suckers and losers". What a pathetic groveling punk. GOP never speaks up to defend our soldiers, and call out Krasnov's krap
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 13, 2025 12:20 PM (JCZqz)
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They really do live in an alternate reality, don't they?
He calls our American soldiers "suckers and losers". What a pathetic groveling punk. GOP never speaks up to defend our soldiers, and call out Krasnov's krap
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 13, 2025 12:20 PM (JCZqz)
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They really do live in an alternate reality, don't they?
Posted by: SpeakingOf at May 13, 2025 12:55 PM (6ydKt)
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Uh-oh! Now everybody's going to become an expert on Saudi Arabia! (Not us, but Those People Out There.)
Posted by: m at May 13, 2025 12:56 PM (CQE5S)
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248 $5 says they're actually shutting down because fed government grants have dried up, and they're using this as an excuse to make themselves look good to their last remaining private donors.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 12:51 PM (GBKbO)
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That's a pretty good take on it.
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 13, 2025 12:55 PM (PMtkd)
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Even if Democrats win in 2028 and funding comes back up for these kinds of organizations, it'll be 4 years.
The people infrastructure will have moved on to other employment. It's not going to be as easy to build up again as it was to tear down.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 12:51 PM (GBKbO)
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That's a pretty good take on it.
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 13, 2025 12:55 PM (PMtkd)
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Even if Democrats win in 2028 and funding comes back up for these kinds of organizations, it'll be 4 years.
The people infrastructure will have moved on to other employment. It's not going to be as easy to build up again as it was to tear down.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 12:56 PM (GBKbO)
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This is outrageous!
Why hasn't Trump's matriculation into CECOT been once and for all signed off by those rogue jurists in those DOJ?
Why hasn't Trump's matriculation into CECOT been once and for all signed off by those rogue jurists in those DOJ?
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 13, 2025 12:56 PM (zKVqU)
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Gotta give props to Hogg. He turned 15 minutes of fame into a Harvard degree and lucrative left wing grift career.
Respect the player even if you hate the game.
Respect the player even if you hate the game.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 13, 2025 12:56 PM (d4dD2)
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If true, something is very rotten here.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 13, 2025 12:53 PM (lkmGL)
If true.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 13, 2025 12:53 PM (lkmGL)
If true.
Posted by: runner at May 13, 2025 12:56 PM (g47mK)
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231 OT/Looks like they really are giving pillow biter Hogg the boot...
Posted by: It's me donna at May 13, 2025 12:52 PM (VE6XX)
Did he even make it 6 months?
Posted by: It's me donna at May 13, 2025 12:52 PM (VE6XX)
Did he even make it 6 months?
Posted by: Nova Local at May 13, 2025 12:57 PM (tOcjL)
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how funny would it be if this turns him into a conservative.
Posted by: ... at May 13, 2025 12:54 PM (GPc/R)
He'll just move on to another grift.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 12:55 PM (GBKbO)
Annnd..... you think those two things are incompatible?
Posted by: ... at May 13, 2025 12:54 PM (GPc/R)
He'll just move on to another grift.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 12:55 PM (GBKbO)
Annnd..... you think those two things are incompatible?
Posted by: ... at May 13, 2025 12:57 PM (GPc/R)
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I'm hoping Ace will cover that French poof president, the English poof PM, and the German dude who were caught with cocaine and a cocaine spoon at a meeting after leaving Kiev. The video is hilarious.
Europe is run by degenerate, faggoty, pedophiles.
Europe is run by degenerate, faggoty, pedophiles.
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 13, 2025 12:57 PM (PMtkd)
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They just hate attractive blonde women:
https://x.com/TheRoyalSerf/status/1922097304682524780
Ok, we need to get her entire family out! Go all the way out to third cousins, just to be safe.
https://x.com/TheRoyalSerf/status/1922097304682524780
Ok, we need to get her entire family out! Go all the way out to third cousins, just to be safe.
Posted by: t-bird at May 13, 2025 12:57 PM (Vngri)
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Damn cucumber!
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 13, 2025 12:58 PM (zKVqU)
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I want to note that Trump isn't dangling tax incentives, no-pay loans or grants to try and get these companies into the US.
You know, the usual bag of tricks the Dems (hi, Gov. Kemp) throw out as the only way to obtain corporate investments.
Instead, Trump tried the most radical idea in the last 40 years:
Assure businesses they are welcome here.
And not just as targets of future taxation.
Simple.
And insane, to the left.
You know, the usual bag of tricks the Dems (hi, Gov. Kemp) throw out as the only way to obtain corporate investments.
Instead, Trump tried the most radical idea in the last 40 years:
Assure businesses they are welcome here.
And not just as targets of future taxation.
Simple.
And insane, to the left.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 13, 2025 12:58 PM (NwfFc)
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257 how funny would it be if this turns him into a conservative.
Posted by: ... at May 13, 2025 12:54 PM (GPc/R)
He'll just move on to another grift.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 12:55 PM (GBKbO)
Annnd..... you think those two things are incompatible?
Posted by: ... at May 13, 2025 12:57 PM (GPc/R)
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I don't often fight over labels, but right-leaning grifters I would struggle to call conservatives.
They have no political affiliation except what will pay them. They have no ideology other than self-enrichment.
Posted by: ... at May 13, 2025 12:54 PM (GPc/R)
He'll just move on to another grift.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 12:55 PM (GBKbO)
Annnd..... you think those two things are incompatible?
Posted by: ... at May 13, 2025 12:57 PM (GPc/R)
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I don't often fight over labels, but right-leaning grifters I would struggle to call conservatives.
They have no political affiliation except what will pay them. They have no ideology other than self-enrichment.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 12:58 PM (GBKbO)
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They really do live in an alternate reality, don't they?
Posted by: SpeakingOf at May 13, 2025 12:55 PM (6ydKt)
I suspect a significant number are mobilized to post that crap.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at May 13, 2025 12:55 PM (6ydKt)
I suspect a significant number are mobilized to post that crap.
Posted by: ... at May 13, 2025 12:58 PM (GPc/R)
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207 I see that the House's "big, beautiful: bill does not include the SS tax exemption for seniors.
Posted by: Ordinary American
You mean the second richest cohort? Why would they get an exemption, when we're deep in the hole already?
Posted by: Ordinary American
You mean the second richest cohort? Why would they get an exemption, when we're deep in the hole already?
Posted by: Archimedes at May 13, 2025 12:58 PM (s8j++)
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He'll just move on to another grift.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 12:55 PM (GBKbO)
Plenty of grift on the right. It actually would open up vast opportunities for cities for him. Right wing guy who used to be left wing guy could make bank as a podcaster or other “influencer”. The right drools over people like that.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 12:55 PM (GBKbO)
Plenty of grift on the right. It actually would open up vast opportunities for cities for him. Right wing guy who used to be left wing guy could make bank as a podcaster or other “influencer”. The right drools over people like that.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 13, 2025 12:59 PM (d4dD2)
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He'll just move on to another grift.
If he hadn't used the DNC's email list for his own personal fundraising, probably none of this would be happening.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
The DNC is doing the classic calculation of whether to have Hogg in the tent pissing outwards or whether it is better to kick him out of the tent and let him piss into it.
Hoggs problem was he got into the tent and starting pissing on incumbent representatives.
Because he is a malignant narcissist out for his own personal fame, wealth, and glory.
If he hadn't used the DNC's email list for his own personal fundraising, probably none of this would be happening.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
The DNC is doing the classic calculation of whether to have Hogg in the tent pissing outwards or whether it is better to kick him out of the tent and let him piss into it.
Hoggs problem was he got into the tent and starting pissing on incumbent representatives.
Because he is a malignant narcissist out for his own personal fame, wealth, and glory.
Posted by: whig at May 13, 2025 12:59 PM (ctrM5)
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If you want to get high, high in the sky, Cocaine.
Posted by: Emanuel Marcon at May 13, 2025 12:59 PM (A2D3h)
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Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 12:58 PM (GBKbO)
Let's not argue. You are clearly still weary from your week of work.
Let's not argue. You are clearly still weary from your week of work.
Posted by: ... at May 13, 2025 12:59 PM (GPc/R)
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256 231 OT/Looks like they really are giving pillow biter Hogg the boot...
Posted by: It's me donna at May 13, 2025 12:52 PM (VE6XX)
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I thought that creepy troll, James Carville said they were on the exact wrong track with Hogg and then I read he was one of two who were trying to convince the DNC to keep him.
Posted by: It's me donna at May 13, 2025 12:52 PM (VE6XX)
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I thought that creepy troll, James Carville said they were on the exact wrong track with Hogg and then I read he was one of two who were trying to convince the DNC to keep him.
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 13, 2025 01:00 PM (PMtkd)
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Ok, we need to get her entire family out! Go all the way out to third cousins, just to be safe.
Posted by: t-bird at May 13, 2025 12:57 PM (Vngri)
I’m okay with a “Hot chicks only” immigration policy. Also, they don’t get to vote because we have enough overly-emotional women in positions of power.
To keep America from being overcrowded, we can deport one uggo for every smoke show we let in.
Posted by: t-bird at May 13, 2025 12:57 PM (Vngri)
I’m okay with a “Hot chicks only” immigration policy. Also, they don’t get to vote because we have enough overly-emotional women in positions of power.
To keep America from being overcrowded, we can deport one uggo for every smoke show we let in.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 13, 2025 01:00 PM (l3YAf)
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OT/Looks like they really are giving pillow biter Hogg the boot...
Posted by: It's me donna at May 13, 2025 12:52 PM (VE6XX)
I don't care any which way and it rarely does, but how funny would it be if this turns him into a conservative. This could be his villain origin story.
Posted by: ... at May 13, 2025 12:54 PM (GPc/R)
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He'll just move on to another grift.
If he hadn't used the DNC's email list for his own personal fundraising, probably none of this would be happening.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 12:55 PM (GBKbO)
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Maybe, but I think it was a combination of factors, including that the DNC woke up the morning after he was elected and said "wtf just happened, we elected who??" He was a terrible, terrible choice for VC but somehow nobody in the DNC noticed that until it was too late. Very bad case of beer goggling.
Posted by: It's me donna at May 13, 2025 12:52 PM (VE6XX)
I don't care any which way and it rarely does, but how funny would it be if this turns him into a conservative. This could be his villain origin story.
Posted by: ... at May 13, 2025 12:54 PM (GPc/R)
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He'll just move on to another grift.
If he hadn't used the DNC's email list for his own personal fundraising, probably none of this would be happening.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 12:55 PM (GBKbO)
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Maybe, but I think it was a combination of factors, including that the DNC woke up the morning after he was elected and said "wtf just happened, we elected who??" He was a terrible, terrible choice for VC but somehow nobody in the DNC noticed that until it was too late. Very bad case of beer goggling.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 13, 2025 01:00 PM (iFTx/)
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He'll just move on to another grift.
If he hadn't used the DNC's email list for his own personal fundraising, probably none of this would be happening.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 12:55 PM (GBKbO)
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I dunno, Talcum X and Rachel are both out of the grifting game, for the most part. Hogg is a skinny little dweeb who's probably gone as far as he can as a grifter. We'll find out how committed Hogg is if he comes out as trans. He does that, he's in the grifting game for the long haul.
If he hadn't used the DNC's email list for his own personal fundraising, probably none of this would be happening.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 12:55 PM (GBKbO)
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I dunno, Talcum X and Rachel are both out of the grifting game, for the most part. Hogg is a skinny little dweeb who's probably gone as far as he can as a grifter. We'll find out how committed Hogg is if he comes out as trans. He does that, he's in the grifting game for the long haul.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 13, 2025 01:00 PM (tT6L1)
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261 I want to note that Trump isn't dangling tax incentives, no-pay loans or grants to try and get these companies into the US.
You know, the usual bag of tricks the Dems (hi, Gov. Kemp) throw out as the only way to obtain corporate investments.
Instead, Trump tried the most radical idea in the last 40 years:
Assure businesses they are welcome here.
And not just as targets of future taxation.
Simple.
And insane, to the left.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
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Nicely put. Kemp and Dems don't like that strategy because no grifting opportunities.
You know, the usual bag of tricks the Dems (hi, Gov. Kemp) throw out as the only way to obtain corporate investments.
Instead, Trump tried the most radical idea in the last 40 years:
Assure businesses they are welcome here.
And not just as targets of future taxation.
Simple.
And insane, to the left.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
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Nicely put. Kemp and Dems don't like that strategy because no grifting opportunities.
Posted by: whig at May 13, 2025 01:00 PM (ctrM5)
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This is about us, isn't it?
Posted by: Degenerate, faggoty pedophiles at May 13, 2025 01:01 PM (YmTKR)
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I see that the House's "big, beautiful: bill does not include the SS tax exemption for seniors.
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65+ is leading the resistance this time around. So not too many years for them.
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65+ is leading the resistance this time around. So not too many years for them.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 13, 2025 01:01 PM (d4dD2)
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Breaking News: According to DOGE, as soon as Kamala! lost the election, Biden began sending Democrat-aligned NGOs and companies $1.3 billion per day, almost $100 billion before President Trump took office.
In the prior 15 years, the same loan office gave out $40 billion, just $8 million per day.
This was theft on a scale the world has never seen before.
In the prior 15 years, the same loan office gave out $40 billion, just $8 million per day.
This was theft on a scale the world has never seen before.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 13, 2025 01:01 PM (0sNs1)
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264 207 I see that the House's "big, beautiful: bill does not include the SS tax exemption for seniors.
Posted by: Ordinary American
You mean the second richest cohort? Why would they get an exemption, when we're deep in the hole already?
Posted by: Archimedes at May 13, 2025 12:58 PM (s8j++)
And of all the groups, they were least hurt in the Biden years b/c their SS got inflation adjustments and their assets moved up in the stock market, so they were more protected from the catastrophic inflationary effects.
Rank and file workers were the ones utterly screwed - no one raised their wages and they had no way to hedge inflation with assets...so they do deserve help the most when there's only so much help that can go around...
Posted by: Ordinary American
You mean the second richest cohort? Why would they get an exemption, when we're deep in the hole already?
Posted by: Archimedes at May 13, 2025 12:58 PM (s8j++)
And of all the groups, they were least hurt in the Biden years b/c their SS got inflation adjustments and their assets moved up in the stock market, so they were more protected from the catastrophic inflationary effects.
Rank and file workers were the ones utterly screwed - no one raised their wages and they had no way to hedge inflation with assets...so they do deserve help the most when there's only so much help that can go around...
Posted by: Nova Local at May 13, 2025 01:01 PM (tOcjL)
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He did it. Trump played YMCA for the Saudis. Unwavering speaks volumns
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He should follow that with "Rock The Casbah".
Posted by: Crusader
And Walk Like an Egyptian.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder
Ahab the Arab
He did it. Trump played YMCA for the Saudis. Unwavering speaks volumns
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He should follow that with "Rock The Casbah".
Posted by: Crusader
And Walk Like an Egyptian.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder
Ahab the Arab
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 13, 2025 01:01 PM (63Dwl)
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I thought that creepy troll, James Carville said they were on the exact wrong track with Hogg and then I read he was one of two who were trying to convince the DNC to keep him.
Carville is a politician. He knows that while Hogg might be anathema to much of the party, it's a very bad look for the Dems to kick him out just after he called for them to get their heads out of their asses and start appealing the straight, white males.
Carville is a politician. He knows that while Hogg might be anathema to much of the party, it's a very bad look for the Dems to kick him out just after he called for them to get their heads out of their asses and start appealing the straight, white males.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 13, 2025 01:01 PM (s8j++)
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They have no ideology other than self-enrichment.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 12:58 PM (GBKbO)
Ideology is dumb. That’s what commies care about; abstract ideals. Bah.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 12:58 PM (GBKbO)
Ideology is dumb. That’s what commies care about; abstract ideals. Bah.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 13, 2025 01:02 PM (l3YAf)
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272 I dunno, Talcum X and Rachel are both out of the grifting game, for the most part. Hogg is a skinny little dweeb who's probably gone as far as he can as a grifter. We'll find out how committed Hogg is if he comes out as trans. He does that, he's in the grifting game for the long haul.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 13, 2025 01:00 PM (tT6L1)
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I didn't say it would be wildly successful.
But he's not going to retire from the grifting game. He's got serious name recognition.
He'll find dumb rich progressives to pay him $25,000 a pop for an appearance for years.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 13, 2025 01:00 PM (tT6L1)
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I didn't say it would be wildly successful.
But he's not going to retire from the grifting game. He's got serious name recognition.
He'll find dumb rich progressives to pay him $25,000 a pop for an appearance for years.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 01:02 PM (GBKbO)
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Presdent Obama will makes good deels fore America and nots Trump.
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein
Pretty sure King Salman and Crown Prince MBS view jugears as a joke and a peter puffer. I'm thinking they would personally enjoy tossing him from the roof of the highest minaret in Mecca.
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein
Pretty sure King Salman and Crown Prince MBS view jugears as a joke and a peter puffer. I'm thinking they would personally enjoy tossing him from the roof of the highest minaret in Mecca.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * poorly trained emotional support moron at May 13, 2025 01:02 PM (Uzn0I)
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I see that the House's "big, beautiful: bill does not include the SS tax exemption for seniors.
It also raises the SALT exemption from 10k up to 30k. A very RINO move.
It also raises the SALT exemption from 10k up to 30k. A very RINO move.
Posted by: t-bird at May 13, 2025 01:02 PM (FdyuK)
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European leaders doped up while letting Muslims invade their countries
Posted by: Skip at May 13, 2025 01:02 PM (ypFCm)
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I’m okay with a “Hot chicks only” immigration policy. Also, they don’t get to vote because we have enough overly-emotional women in positions of power.
To keep America from being overcrowded, we can deport one uggo for every smoke show we let in.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 13, 2025 01:00 PM (l3YAf)
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Much needed immigration reform. They must also prove they can cook and sign an agreement they need to maintain a BMI of less than 15 to stay in the country.
I’m okay with a “Hot chicks only” immigration policy. Also, they don’t get to vote because we have enough overly-emotional women in positions of power.
To keep America from being overcrowded, we can deport one uggo for every smoke show we let in.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 13, 2025 01:00 PM (l3YAf)
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Much needed immigration reform. They must also prove they can cook and sign an agreement they need to maintain a BMI of less than 15 to stay in the country.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 13, 2025 01:03 PM (BRJFo)
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273 Nicely put. Kemp and Dems don't like that strategy because no grifting opportunities.
Posted by: whig at May 13, 2025 01:00 PM (ctrM5)
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It's how the entire state-level GOP in the south operates.
Nikki Haley threw tax incentives to every business that would listen to her while she was governor.
Posted by: whig at May 13, 2025 01:00 PM (ctrM5)
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It's how the entire state-level GOP in the south operates.
Nikki Haley threw tax incentives to every business that would listen to her while she was governor.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 01:03 PM (GBKbO)
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274 This is about us, isn't it?
Posted by: Degenerate, faggoty pedophiles at May 13, 2025 01:01 PM (YmTKR)
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heh
Posted by: Degenerate, faggoty pedophiles at May 13, 2025 01:01 PM (YmTKR)
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heh
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 13, 2025 01:03 PM (PMtkd)
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I thought that creepy troll, James Carville said they were on the exact wrong track with Hogg and then I read he was one of two who were trying to convince the DNC to keep him.
Posted by: Seems Legit
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White males are becoming extinct in the Dem coalition is why. Carville's point was that Dems shitting on white males composing at least one quarter to one third of the electorate is electoral idiocy.
Posted by: Seems Legit
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White males are becoming extinct in the Dem coalition is why. Carville's point was that Dems shitting on white males composing at least one quarter to one third of the electorate is electoral idiocy.
Posted by: whig at May 13, 2025 01:03 PM (ctrM5)
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" ... The left: Trump's supporters will tire of his failures soon.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 13, 2025 12:16 PM (i24o9)"
the internet has already reliably informed me that we are deserting him in droves as his insanity drives the nation into disaster
LOL
Moar Trumpmas!
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 13, 2025 12:16 PM (i24o9)"
the internet has already reliably informed me that we are deserting him in droves as his insanity drives the nation into disaster
LOL
Moar Trumpmas!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 13, 2025 01:03 PM (/Ghsb)
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I’m okay with a “Hot chicks only” immigration policy.
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I'm thinking bumper stickers and yard signs would be really popular for this cause.
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I'm thinking bumper stickers and yard signs would be really popular for this cause.
Posted by: Crusader at May 13, 2025 01:03 PM (TN0g+)
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Rank and file workers were the ones utterly screwed - no one raised their wages and they had no way to hedge inflation with assets...so they do deserve help the most when there's only so much help that can go around...
Pffffft. They have small children who will fetch a pretty penny in the marketplace.
Pffffft. They have small children who will fetch a pretty penny in the marketplace.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 13, 2025 01:03 PM (s8j++)
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Rentier states relying on sales of commodities are particularly vulnerable to those commodities dropping in price.
Posted by: whig at May 13, 2025 12:28 PM (ctrM5)
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Good point.
People like to give credit to Reagan, Thatcher, John Paul II and even Gorbachev for ending the Cold War and the implosion of the Soviet Union.
But I'm damn sure it's because the price of oil per barrel fell from around $35 in the late 70s to under $10 by 1986.
The Soviets had no choice, they were going completely broke as oil & gas was their only real export.
It even hit Texas hard because there was such a glut of oil.
Posted by: whig at May 13, 2025 12:28 PM (ctrM5)
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Good point.
People like to give credit to Reagan, Thatcher, John Paul II and even Gorbachev for ending the Cold War and the implosion of the Soviet Union.
But I'm damn sure it's because the price of oil per barrel fell from around $35 in the late 70s to under $10 by 1986.
The Soviets had no choice, they were going completely broke as oil & gas was their only real export.
It even hit Texas hard because there was such a glut of oil.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at May 13, 2025 01:03 PM (6ydKt)
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Travel that train high on cocaine.
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 13, 2025 01:04 PM (A2D3h)
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Ejecting Hogg may backfire badly. The Democrat base is sick and tired of old idiot Boomers who keep losing and doing failure theater.
Hogg himself is uninspiring, but the left wants to get rid of the dinosaurs and bring in fresh blood who will shake things up.
Hogg himself is uninspiring, but the left wants to get rid of the dinosaurs and bring in fresh blood who will shake things up.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 13, 2025 01:04 PM (l3YAf)
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 13, 2025 01:04 PM (zKVqU)
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291 Pffffft. They have small children who will fetch a pretty penny in the marketplace.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 13, 2025 01:03 PM (s8j++)
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I had to drop Junior off at school late one day last week.
I hit the button on the intercom. I'm standing there with a kid who obviously goes there.
"Can I help you?"
I had a choice. Be straightforward and factual. Or...be hilarious.
"Yes, I'm here to sell this child."
Got a great laugh, including from the female sheriff behind me.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 13, 2025 01:03 PM (s8j++)
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I had to drop Junior off at school late one day last week.
I hit the button on the intercom. I'm standing there with a kid who obviously goes there.
"Can I help you?"
I had a choice. Be straightforward and factual. Or...be hilarious.
"Yes, I'm here to sell this child."
Got a great laugh, including from the female sheriff behind me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 01:05 PM (GBKbO)
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compassion with limits-episcopal church shuts door on white afrikaner refugees
Wow. They'll need someone to shut the doors on all the churches, too. I left long ago.
Posted by: t-bird at May 13, 2025 12:53 PM (Vngri)
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They just hate attractive blonde women:
https://x.com/TheRoyalSerf/status/1922097304682524780
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 12:54 PM (GBKbO)
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I dated a South African girl here for the summer as an au pair. The true situation on the ground in SA -- especially in rural farming areas -- is much worse than we are being told. It's not only a full-on barbaric war against whites, but also a war among black African warlords. Blacks murdering whites, blacks murdering other blacks. Pure butchery.
Wow. They'll need someone to shut the doors on all the churches, too. I left long ago.
Posted by: t-bird at May 13, 2025 12:53 PM (Vngri)
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They just hate attractive blonde women:
https://x.com/TheRoyalSerf/status/1922097304682524780
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 12:54 PM (GBKbO)
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I dated a South African girl here for the summer as an au pair. The true situation on the ground in SA -- especially in rural farming areas -- is much worse than we are being told. It's not only a full-on barbaric war against whites, but also a war among black African warlords. Blacks murdering whites, blacks murdering other blacks. Pure butchery.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 13, 2025 01:05 PM (iFTx/)
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Pretty sure King Salman and Crown Prince MBS view jugears as a joke and a peter puffer. I'm thinking they would personally enjoy tossing him from the roof of the highest minaret in Mecca.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * poorly trained emotional support moron at May 13, 2025 01:02 PM (Uzn0I)
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I second that. Also, when they saw him lifting 5 pounds weights and took a close look at Michelle they said, "look at those degenerate, faggoty pedophiles."
Pretty sure King Salman and Crown Prince MBS view jugears as a joke and a peter puffer. I'm thinking they would personally enjoy tossing him from the roof of the highest minaret in Mecca.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * poorly trained emotional support moron at May 13, 2025 01:02 PM (Uzn0I)
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I second that. Also, when they saw him lifting 5 pounds weights and took a close look at Michelle they said, "look at those degenerate, faggoty pedophiles."
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 13, 2025 01:06 PM (PMtkd)
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The $10k salt from 2018 adjusted for inflation is about $15k today. So the GOP is doubling it in effect. Which will almost exclusively benefit democrats. They are truly a shit party that loathes its voters.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 13, 2025 01:06 PM (d4dD2)
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I had a choice. Be straightforward and factual. Or...be hilarious.
"Yes, I'm here to sell this child."
I'd say you succeeded.
"Yes, I'm here to sell this child."
I'd say you succeeded.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 13, 2025 01:06 PM (s8j++)
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"Yes, I'm here to sell this child."
Got a great laugh, including from the female sheriff behind me.
Nice! Scarred your kid for life, but nice.
Got a great laugh, including from the female sheriff behind me.
Nice! Scarred your kid for life, but nice.
Posted by: t-bird at May 13, 2025 01:07 PM (Vngri)
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It's how the entire state-level GOP in the south operates.
Nikki Haley threw tax incentives to every business that would listen to her while she was governor.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Oh, I know it. Down South it is called bidness and the chamber of commerce runs the roost and feathers the roosters.
FWIW, MTG had a classic broadside at that whole culture when she announced she would not be running for Senate in 2026.
Link goes to GWP but is a direct statement from MTG as is pretty much.
https://tinyurl.com/ymmwbspm
So damning that Ace should take a gander at it. Amazing cruelty to GOPe.
Nikki Haley threw tax incentives to every business that would listen to her while she was governor.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Oh, I know it. Down South it is called bidness and the chamber of commerce runs the roost and feathers the roosters.
FWIW, MTG had a classic broadside at that whole culture when she announced she would not be running for Senate in 2026.
Link goes to GWP but is a direct statement from MTG as is pretty much.
https://tinyurl.com/ymmwbspm
So damning that Ace should take a gander at it. Amazing cruelty to GOPe.
Posted by: whig at May 13, 2025 01:07 PM (ctrM5)
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300 I had a choice. Be straightforward and factual. Or...be hilarious.
"Yes, I'm here to sell this child."
I'd say you succeeded.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 13, 2025 01:06 PM (s8j++)
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I honestly think it's the funniest thing I ever said.
As I told Junior later in one of his attempts to just repeat something he thought was funny, expecting laughs, humor is contextual. That comment worked in that moment. I would struggle to find another moment to make it work.
"Yes, I'm here to sell this child."
I'd say you succeeded.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 13, 2025 01:06 PM (s8j++)
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I honestly think it's the funniest thing I ever said.
As I told Junior later in one of his attempts to just repeat something he thought was funny, expecting laughs, humor is contextual. That comment worked in that moment. I would struggle to find another moment to make it work.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 01:08 PM (GBKbO)
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The true situation on the ground in SA -- especially in rural farming areas -- is much worse than we are being told. It's not only a full-on barbaric war against whites, but also a war among black African warlords. Blacks murdering whites, blacks murdering other blacks. Pure butchery.
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So a lot like Chicago, Detroit, and Oakland...
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So a lot like Chicago, Detroit, and Oakland...
Posted by: Crusader at May 13, 2025 01:08 PM (TN0g+)
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Only real tax cut is reducing rates. Everything else is social engineering.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 13, 2025 01:08 PM (d4dD2)
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It's another Taqiyya sunrise.
Posted by: The Eagles of Deathcult at May 13, 2025 01:08 PM (xcIvR)
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I also thing we need to remember Saudi Arabia is a big funder of Islamic terrorism and was essentially who bankrolled 9/11.
I'm not saying we can't deal with them, but hardly strong allies.
I'm not saying we can't deal with them, but hardly strong allies.
Posted by: Leupold at May 13, 2025 01:08 PM (4pwAx)
Posted by: Kindltot at May 13, 2025 01:09 PM (D7oie)
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And a little Hoggette shall lead them.
Posted by: Oops at May 13, 2025 01:09 PM (YmTKR)
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Which will almost exclusively benefit democrats. They are truly a shit party that loathes its voters.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 13, 2025 01:06 PM (d4dD2)
That’s not true, it benefits plenty of right-wing people, too. A $15k cap seems reasonable.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 13, 2025 01:06 PM (d4dD2)
That’s not true, it benefits plenty of right-wing people, too. A $15k cap seems reasonable.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 13, 2025 01:09 PM (l3YAf)
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Maybe the Saudis will give him another plane.
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 13, 2025 01:09 PM (A2D3h)
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It's not only a full-on barbaric war against whites, but also a war among black African warlords. Blacks murdering whites, blacks murdering other blacks. Pure butchery.
Posted by: Elric Blade
Reparation nation
It's not only a full-on barbaric war against whites, but also a war among black African warlords. Blacks murdering whites, blacks murdering other blacks. Pure butchery.
Posted by: Elric Blade
Reparation nation
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 13, 2025 01:10 PM (63Dwl)
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I don't care if the Gaza issue is settled quickly. I just want to see the area free of Paleos from the river to the sea.
Oh, that's not the genocide you had in mind?
Oh, that's not the genocide you had in mind?
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 13, 2025 01:10 PM (wBaIH)
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Drumpf!!!!! He ruins everything!!!!! Rheeeee
Posted by: Sally Quinn, empty vessel at May 13, 2025 01:11 PM (an/JA)
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Blo Jiden's Staff said if he was elected to a second term he would have to be in a wheel chair........
President Joe "Chris Pike" Biden = GLOBAL CHARLES FOX
One Beep for Yes and Two beeps for No.........
President Joe "Chris Pike" Biden = GLOBAL CHARLES FOX
One Beep for Yes and Two beeps for No.........
Posted by: Buster Hymand at May 13, 2025 01:11 PM (FDlb9)
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Insty:
TRUNALIMUNUMAPRZURE! Excruciating moment Biden couldn’t recognize A-list star who’d backed him for years, as top Dems leak grim new details of plot to trick Americans.
So outraged are influential Democrats that a number have allowed their names to be used in the book, including David Plouffe, who managed Obama’s successful 2008 campaign. ‘We got so screwed by Biden as a party,’ Plouffe is quoted as saying.
In one of the most shocking revelations, Biden was reportedly so impaired that he didn’t recognize Clooney at a star-studded June 2024 Democratic fundraiser in Los Angeles, the book says, claiming it left the actor ‘shaken to his core.’
‘It was obvious to many standing there that the president did not know who George Clooney was,’ the authors write.
Another Hollywood VIP guest reportedly said: ‘It was like watching someone who was not alive. It was so awful.’
‘We got so screwed by Biden as a party,’ Plouffe is quoted as saying.
No, you pedo asswipe, you screwed yourselves.
TRUNALIMUNUMAPRZURE! Excruciating moment Biden couldn’t recognize A-list star who’d backed him for years, as top Dems leak grim new details of plot to trick Americans.
So outraged are influential Democrats that a number have allowed their names to be used in the book, including David Plouffe, who managed Obama’s successful 2008 campaign. ‘We got so screwed by Biden as a party,’ Plouffe is quoted as saying.
In one of the most shocking revelations, Biden was reportedly so impaired that he didn’t recognize Clooney at a star-studded June 2024 Democratic fundraiser in Los Angeles, the book says, claiming it left the actor ‘shaken to his core.’
‘It was obvious to many standing there that the president did not know who George Clooney was,’ the authors write.
Another Hollywood VIP guest reportedly said: ‘It was like watching someone who was not alive. It was so awful.’
‘We got so screwed by Biden as a party,’ Plouffe is quoted as saying.
No, you pedo asswipe, you screwed yourselves.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 13, 2025 01:11 PM (s8j++)
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The Big Beautiful Bill is turning into the Fat Ugly Bill.
No relation to me, of course.
No relation to me, of course.
Posted by: wth at May 13, 2025 01:12 PM (v0R5T)
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Well, that didn't work. It was all AI anyways
Posted by: Kindltot at May 13, 2025 01:12 PM (D7oie)
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286 273 Nicely put. Kemp and Dems don't like that strategy because no grifting opportunities.
Posted by: whig at May 13, 2025 01:00 PM (ctrM5)
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It's how the entire state-level GOP in the south operates.
Nikki Haley threw tax incentives to every business that would listen to her while she was governor.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 01:03 PM (GBKbO)
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That all started in the 90s bringing in BMW to the Upstate.
But the Japanese had been getting good deals building auto plants around the south even before Germany got into the game.
Good workforce, lower taxes, not union die-hards.
The American South really is ideal for a lot of these foreign corps to set up here.
Ridgeville has that Volvo plant now because of Nikki.
But I think even if they laid off all of the incentive packages companies would locate down here in the new tariff era.
Kemp messed up getting involved with EVs, which only Elon and all of the Chinese EV companies have really been successful at.
Stupid decision for Georgia.
Posted by: whig at May 13, 2025 01:00 PM (ctrM5)
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It's how the entire state-level GOP in the south operates.
Nikki Haley threw tax incentives to every business that would listen to her while she was governor.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 01:03 PM (GBKbO)
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That all started in the 90s bringing in BMW to the Upstate.
But the Japanese had been getting good deals building auto plants around the south even before Germany got into the game.
Good workforce, lower taxes, not union die-hards.
The American South really is ideal for a lot of these foreign corps to set up here.
Ridgeville has that Volvo plant now because of Nikki.
But I think even if they laid off all of the incentive packages companies would locate down here in the new tariff era.
Kemp messed up getting involved with EVs, which only Elon and all of the Chinese EV companies have really been successful at.
Stupid decision for Georgia.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at May 13, 2025 01:12 PM (6ydKt)
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Breaking News: According to DOGE, as soon as Kamala! lost the election, Biden began sending Democrat-aligned NGOs and companies $1.3 billion per day, almost $100 billion before President Trump took office.
In the prior 15 years, the same loan office gave out $40 billion, just $8 million per day.
This was theft on a scale the world has never seen before.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
And that shambolic stuttering piece of shit Biden pardoned most of the guilty and is himself imune to punishment given the SCrOTUSM ruling of executive power immunity for Trump.
In the prior 15 years, the same loan office gave out $40 billion, just $8 million per day.
This was theft on a scale the world has never seen before.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
And that shambolic stuttering piece of shit Biden pardoned most of the guilty and is himself imune to punishment given the SCrOTU
Posted by: BifBewalski - close tags for the win at May 13, 2025 01:12 PM (MsrgL)
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The $10k salt from 2018 adjusted for inflation is about $15k today. So the GOP is doubling it in effect. Which will almost exclusively benefit democrats. They are truly a shit party that loathes its voters.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
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I'm mad about SALT also, but I think a lot of Republican voters stuck in blue states were pissed about this cap.
People in general though are stupid. Like you tell someone they pay less taxes, even with a SALT cap, and they are still pissed off about losing that deduction.
I think what the SALT cap ended up unfortunately doing us making blue state voters head for red states. I dont think a single state cut any of their taxes over it.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
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I'm mad about SALT also, but I think a lot of Republican voters stuck in blue states were pissed about this cap.
People in general though are stupid. Like you tell someone they pay less taxes, even with a SALT cap, and they are still pissed off about losing that deduction.
I think what the SALT cap ended up unfortunately doing us making blue state voters head for red states. I dont think a single state cut any of their taxes over it.
Posted by: Leupold at May 13, 2025 01:12 PM (4pwAx)
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Conservative Friends: it's not too late to jump on the Buyers Remorse bandwagon. All the kool kids are already there!
Posted by: The MSM,, Now With 22% More Truthy Goodness! at May 13, 2025 01:12 PM (dDmld)
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How Joe Biden Is Positioning Himself as a Modern FDR.
—Time Magazine, October 28th, 2020.
... truer words have never been written
—Time Magazine, October 28th, 2020.
... truer words have never been written
Posted by: SMOD at May 13, 2025 01:13 PM (RHGPo)
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>>> 307 I also thing we need to remember Saudi Arabia is a big funder of Islamic terrorism and was essentially who bankrolled 9/11.
I'm not saying we can't deal with them, but hardly strong allies.
Posted by: Leupold at May 13, 2025 01:08 PM (4pwAx)
MbS wasn't crown prince until 2017.
I'm not saying we can't deal with them, but hardly strong allies.
Posted by: Leupold at May 13, 2025 01:08 PM (4pwAx)
MbS wasn't crown prince until 2017.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 13, 2025 01:13 PM (Vqx30)
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It is so downplayed and ignored by the media, but Trump can work a room like no one else.
Their idols give canned speeches with trite bromides.
But Trump engages and is engaging.
cf. Kamala cackling in a horrible imitation of audience interaction.
Their idols give canned speeches with trite bromides.
But Trump engages and is engaging.
cf. Kamala cackling in a horrible imitation of audience interaction.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 13, 2025 01:13 PM (NwfFc)
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Trump secures historic Saudi investment totaling $600 billion
Trump is selling them sand.
Next stop? Nunavit, Canada.
He's selling the Inuit refrigerators.
Trump is selling them sand.
Next stop? Nunavit, Canada.
He's selling the Inuit refrigerators.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 13, 2025 01:13 PM (QMyMX)
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When the Saudis begin rolling out the pork barrels by the gross, you know we've won the trade battle!
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 13, 2025 01:13 PM (zKVqU)
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That’s not true, it benefits plenty of right-wing people, too. A $15k cap seems reasonable.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 13, 2025 01:09 PM (l3YAf)
Proportionally it’s very lopsided to democrats. Nobody in Florida will benefit. Everyone in California will. As an example. Are there right wing people in Cali? Sure. But proportionally there are a ton more in Florida.
But the GOP is concerned with getting Californians tax relief, not Floridians. Which is what makes them a retarded party.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 13, 2025 01:09 PM (l3YAf)
Proportionally it’s very lopsided to democrats. Nobody in Florida will benefit. Everyone in California will. As an example. Are there right wing people in Cali? Sure. But proportionally there are a ton more in Florida.
But the GOP is concerned with getting Californians tax relief, not Floridians. Which is what makes them a retarded party.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 13, 2025 01:14 PM (d4dD2)
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I hate to say it, but the Houthi stand down is timed too well not to be related to this meeting. They probably got a memo telling them to hibernate for a few weeks.
They'll be back in about a month droning away.
They'll be back in about a month droning away.
Posted by: orson at May 13, 2025 01:14 PM (dIske)
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White males are becoming extinct in the Dem coalition is why. Carville's point was that Dems shitting on white males composing at least one quarter to one third of the electorate is electoral idiocy.
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The Dems used to be the Angry Black Man's party. Now its the Angry Black Lesbian Mayor party. What was the question that spawned the answer of Black Lesbian Mayors?
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The Dems used to be the Angry Black Man's party. Now its the Angry Black Lesbian Mayor party. What was the question that spawned the answer of Black Lesbian Mayors?
Posted by: Pudinhead at May 13, 2025 01:14 PM (n17eQ)
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I honestly think it's the funniest thing I ever said.
As I told Junior later in one of his attempts to just repeat something he thought was funny, expecting laughs, humor is contextual. That comment worked in that moment. I would struggle to find another moment to make it work.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 01:08 PM (GBKbO)
I've always loved absurdist humor! That's what comics like Monty Python, Ernie Kovacs, and the Marx Bros excelled at. Nice timing! And always best in a deadpan delivery.
I honestly think it's the funniest thing I ever said.
As I told Junior later in one of his attempts to just repeat something he thought was funny, expecting laughs, humor is contextual. That comment worked in that moment. I would struggle to find another moment to make it work.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 01:08 PM (GBKbO)
I've always loved absurdist humor! That's what comics like Monty Python, Ernie Kovacs, and the Marx Bros excelled at. Nice timing! And always best in a deadpan delivery.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 13, 2025 01:15 PM (uWKK8)
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Stupid decision for Georgia.
Posted by: SpeakingOf
From the state that brought you Stacey Abrams.
Sensing a trend ..
Posted by: SpeakingOf
From the state that brought you Stacey Abrams.
Sensing a trend ..
Posted by: Joe Mama at May 13, 2025 01:15 PM (FWAED)
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I hope Trump has his own people checking for all the trojan horses in the stupid ass bill.
For example the Orphan Execution Clause, the Reparations Amendment, the DEI Restoration and Reinvigoration Article, the Biden Repayment Act and of course the Military Grift Section.
For example the Orphan Execution Clause, the Reparations Amendment, the DEI Restoration and Reinvigoration Article, the Biden Repayment Act and of course the Military Grift Section.
Posted by: ... at May 13, 2025 01:15 PM (GPc/R)
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>> Good workforce, lower taxes, not union die-hards.
The American South really is ideal for a lot of these foreign corps to set up here.
Cheap energy, better weather, better infrastructure, fewer regulations, less hippie bullshit. Southern GOP governors are cheaper to buy off than coastal Dem ones.
The South: move your factory here! We’re like the Mexico of the United States!
The American South really is ideal for a lot of these foreign corps to set up here.
Cheap energy, better weather, better infrastructure, fewer regulations, less hippie bullshit. Southern GOP governors are cheaper to buy off than coastal Dem ones.
The South: move your factory here! We’re like the Mexico of the United States!
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 13, 2025 01:15 PM (l3YAf)
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Biden was reportedly so impaired that he didn’t recognize Clooney at a star-studded June 2024 Democratic fundraiser in Los Angeles, the book says, claiming it left the actor ‘shaken to his core.’
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So this idiot, Clooney, never, ever bothered to watch any footage of Biden from 2018 to June of 2024?????
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So this idiot, Clooney, never, ever bothered to watch any footage of Biden from 2018 to June of 2024?????
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 13, 2025 01:16 PM (PMtkd)
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But the GOP is concerned with getting Californians tax relief, not Floridians. Which is what makes them a retarded party.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
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I see that perspective, but then there's the Republican that lives in PA (that voted Trump) and they see their federal taxes go up in order to punish CA.
I think the best way to punish liberal voters with the taxes they claim they love is jack up taxes on ultra high salaries. Supposedly Trump wanted taxes to go up for those making over $2.5 million in salary, which is basically Hollywood and Silicon Valley types.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
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I see that perspective, but then there's the Republican that lives in PA (that voted Trump) and they see their federal taxes go up in order to punish CA.
I think the best way to punish liberal voters with the taxes they claim they love is jack up taxes on ultra high salaries. Supposedly Trump wanted taxes to go up for those making over $2.5 million in salary, which is basically Hollywood and Silicon Valley types.
Posted by: Leupold at May 13, 2025 01:16 PM (4pwAx)
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The gop can’t profess to be the party of the working and middle class and then give a big tax break to people making $250k in San Jose or NYC by tripling the SALT deduction.
Pick a lane GOP.
Pick a lane GOP.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 13, 2025 01:16 PM (d4dD2)
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I had a choice. Be straightforward and factual. Or...be hilarious.
"Yes, I'm here to sell this child."
Got a great laugh, including from the female sheriff behind me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 01:05 PM (GBKbO)
How much did you get?
"Yes, I'm here to sell this child."
Got a great laugh, including from the female sheriff behind me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 01:05 PM (GBKbO)
How much did you get?
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 13, 2025 01:17 PM (i24o9)
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>> Nobody in Florida will benefit. Everyone in California will.
That’s not true; Floridians will benefit and not all Californians will.
That’s not true; Floridians will benefit and not all Californians will.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 13, 2025 01:17 PM (l3YAf)
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335 So this idiot, Clooney, never, ever bothered to watch any footage of Biden from 2018 to June of 2024?????
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 13, 2025 01:16 PM (PMtkd)
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The news explained to him that those were cheap fakes.
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 13, 2025 01:16 PM (PMtkd)
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The news explained to him that those were cheap fakes.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 01:17 PM (GBKbO)
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For example the Orphan Execution Clause, the Reparations Amendment, the DEI Restoration and Reinvigoration Article, the Biden Repayment Act and of course the Military Grift Section.
Posted by: ...
They're gonna execute orphans???
Posted by: ...
They're gonna execute orphans???
Posted by: rickb223 at May 13, 2025 01:17 PM (QMyMX)
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CNN’s New Streaming Service Will Debut This Fall
The service is part of a major push to find paying customers for the network’s journalism.
https://tinyurl.com/4b84ytts
The service is part of a major push to find paying customers for the network’s journalism.
https://tinyurl.com/4b84ytts
Posted by: Oglebay at May 13, 2025 01:18 PM (MMp6W)
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341 For example the Orphan Execution Clause, the Reparations Amendment, the DEI Restoration and Reinvigoration Article, the Biden Repayment Act and of course the Military Grift Section.
Posted by: ...
They're gonna execute orphans???
Posted by: rickb223 at May 13, 2025 01:17 PM (QMyMX)
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If they're lucky.
Better dead than raised in a racist country like America!
Posted by: ...
They're gonna execute orphans???
Posted by: rickb223 at May 13, 2025 01:17 PM (QMyMX)
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If they're lucky.
Better dead than raised in a racist country like America!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 13, 2025 01:18 PM (GBKbO)
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So perfect that the thing that upset Clooney was not being recognized. Is that even real?
Posted by: ... at May 13, 2025 01:18 PM (GPc/R)
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So this idiot, Clooney, never, ever bothered to watch any footage of Biden from 2018 to June of 2024?????
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He was too busy nuzzling his Jooo-hating wife.
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He was too busy nuzzling his Jooo-hating wife.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 13, 2025 01:18 PM (dDmld)
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NOOD
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 13, 2025 01:19 PM (l3YAf)
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Trump wanted taxes to go up for those making over $2.5 million in salary, which is basically Hollywood and Silicon Valley types.
Posted by: Leupold
Wut?
Posted by: Leupold
Wut?
Posted by: Pro Sportsballers at May 13, 2025 01:19 PM (FWAED)
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They're gonna execute orphans???
Posted by: rickb223 at May 13, 2025 01:17 PM (QMyMX
Yes - and no you can't vote for them again!!
Posted by: rickb223 at May 13, 2025 01:17 PM (QMyMX
Yes - and no you can't vote for them again!!
Posted by: ... at May 13, 2025 01:19 PM (GPc/R)
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Maybe the Saudis will give him another plane.
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From Two Scoops Donny to Two Planes Donny.
And to think, he was just a mere McDonalds employee working the hot oil fryer just a few months ago.
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From Two Scoops Donny to Two Planes Donny.
And to think, he was just a mere McDonalds employee working the hot oil fryer just a few months ago.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 13, 2025 01:19 PM (NwfFc)
Posted by: Fani Willis at May 13, 2025 01:19 PM (YmTKR)
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342 CNN’s New Streaming Service Will Debut This Fall
The service is part of a major push to find paying customers for the network’s journalism.
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It's cute that they think there is a market for "the network's journalism."
The service is part of a major push to find paying customers for the network’s journalism.
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It's cute that they think there is a market for "the network's journalism."
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 13, 2025 01:20 PM (PMtkd)
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I hope Trump has his own people checking for all the trojan horses in the stupid ass bill.
For example the Orphan Execution Clause, the Reparations Amendment, the DEI Restoration and Reinvigoration Article, the Biden Repayment Act and of course the Military Grift Section.
Posted by: ...
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The Infinite Debt Ceiling rule.
The Tax on Taxes Tax.
For example the Orphan Execution Clause, the Reparations Amendment, the DEI Restoration and Reinvigoration Article, the Biden Repayment Act and of course the Military Grift Section.
Posted by: ...
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The Infinite Debt Ceiling rule.
The Tax on Taxes Tax.
Posted by: wth at May 13, 2025 01:20 PM (v0R5T)
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I dated a South African girl here for the summer as an au pair. The true situation on the ground in SA -- especially in rural farming areas -- is much worse than we are being told. It's not only a full-on barbaric war against whites, but also a war among black African warlords. Blacks murdering whites, blacks murdering other blacks. Pure butchery.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 13, 2025 01:05 PM (iFTx/)
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Hardly anynody knows about it.
It's one of the most well-guarded, dark, secrets that's out in the open that no mainstream outlet will tackle.
I have to read about in blog posts or rarely in a video or something.
They're still denying it now as Trump & Elon try to publicize what's been going on down there for two decades and is only getting worse as the black radicals take more and more power while the economy keeps getting worse and worse.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 13, 2025 01:05 PM (iFTx/)
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Hardly anynody knows about it.
It's one of the most well-guarded, dark, secrets that's out in the open that no mainstream outlet will tackle.
I have to read about in blog posts or rarely in a video or something.
They're still denying it now as Trump & Elon try to publicize what's been going on down there for two decades and is only getting worse as the black radicals take more and more power while the economy keeps getting worse and worse.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at May 13, 2025 01:20 PM (6ydKt)
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342 CNN’s New Streaming Service Will Debut This Fall
The service is part of a major push to find paying customers for the network’s journalism.
https://tinyurl.com/4b84ytts
Posted by: Oglebay at May 13, 2025 01:18 PM (MMp6W)
Didn't they try that once already? I feel like Rocky whenever Bullwinkle says "Watch me pull a rabbit outta my hat!"
Rocky: "That trick NEVER works!!!"
The service is part of a major push to find paying customers for the network’s journalism.
https://tinyurl.com/4b84ytts
Posted by: Oglebay at May 13, 2025 01:18 PM (MMp6W)
Didn't they try that once already? I feel like Rocky whenever Bullwinkle says "Watch me pull a rabbit outta my hat!"
Rocky: "That trick NEVER works!!!"
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 13, 2025 01:20 PM (uWKK8)
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So are we fer it or agin' it?
Posted by: My poor aching head at May 13, 2025 01:20 PM (TbWk/)
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The NY Times playing it straight like always
U.S. Inflation Mild Ahead of Expected Jump From Tariffs
Economists and policymakers are bracing for inflation to re-accelerate as companies adapt to President Trump’s trade war.
https://tinyurl.com/2nhjpunx
U.S. Inflation Mild Ahead of Expected Jump From Tariffs
Economists and policymakers are bracing for inflation to re-accelerate as companies adapt to President Trump’s trade war.
https://tinyurl.com/2nhjpunx
Posted by: Oglebay at May 13, 2025 01:21 PM (MMp6W)
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How much did you get?
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 13, 2025 01:17 PM (i24o9)
LOL
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 13, 2025 01:17 PM (i24o9)
LOL
Posted by: ... at May 13, 2025 01:21 PM (GPc/R)
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MbS wasn't crown prince until 2017.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 13, 2025 01:13 PM
Mohammed Saeed Alshamrani was 2019.
Just sayin'
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 13, 2025 01:13 PM
Mohammed Saeed Alshamrani was 2019.
Just sayin'
Posted by: one hour sober at May 13, 2025 01:22 PM (Y1sOo)
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Cheap energy, better weather, better infrastructure, fewer regulations, less hippie bullshit. Southern GOP governors are cheaper to buy off than coastal Dem ones.
The South: move your factory here! We’re like the Mexico of the United States!
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 13, 2025 01:15 PM (l3YAf)
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Not for too much longer, as we keep getting flooded from refugees from other states fleeing the dystopias they voted for over and over by pulling a straight D ticket every election.
It's going to be more like Las Vegas soon where people will be surprised that you were actually born here.
The South: move your factory here! We’re like the Mexico of the United States!
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 13, 2025 01:15 PM (l3YAf)
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Not for too much longer, as we keep getting flooded from refugees from other states fleeing the dystopias they voted for over and over by pulling a straight D ticket every election.
It's going to be more like Las Vegas soon where people will be surprised that you were actually born here.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at May 13, 2025 01:23 PM (6ydKt)
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Nood Clown Tapper
Posted by: SpeakingOf at May 13, 2025 01:24 PM (6ydKt)
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I also thing we need to remember Saudi Arabia is a big funder of Islamic terrorism and was essentially who bankrolled 9/11.
I'm not saying we can't deal with them, but hardly strong allies.
Posted by: Leupold
Make no mistake, the Sauds are our enemies. They are great practitioners of the tribal philosophy of the enemy of our enemy is our friend. They still view us as the great Satan. They have a different, more subtle approach than the Shia world.
I'm not saying we can't deal with them, but hardly strong allies.
Posted by: Leupold
Make no mistake, the Sauds are our enemies. They are great practitioners of the tribal philosophy of the enemy of our enemy is our friend. They still view us as the great Satan. They have a different, more subtle approach than the Shia world.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * poorly trained emotional support moron at May 13, 2025 01:24 PM (Uzn0I)
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Fire Hogg? Bbbut he was gonna get us laid!
Posted by: Field Marshal Zoomer at May 13, 2025 01:27 PM (wBaIH)
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I’ll benefit from an increase in salt. I still don’t like it. I’d much rather have all the rates reduced by 1%.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 13, 2025 01:29 PM (d4dD2)
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Saudi Arabia, Announces $600 Billion in New Investments in America...
That's a lot of mosques
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 13, 2025 12:28 PM (agYoY)
That was also my thoughts. Investments are good, as long as they aren’t funding mosques or ‘Islamic centers’.
That's a lot of mosques
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 13, 2025 12:28 PM (agYoY)
That was also my thoughts. Investments are good, as long as they aren’t funding mosques or ‘Islamic centers’.
Posted by: Advo at May 13, 2025 01:31 PM (jO4mz)
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Think of salman pere as vito and the son as michael (,there was anothet prince who allegedly died of thirst (no joke) who was sonny hes been trying to get out of the olive oil (i mean jihad) business his father set up
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 13, 2025 01:41 PM (daFlc)
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In the 90s the high commission on bosnis was pops gig when he was gov in riyadh province
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 13, 2025 01:43 PM (daFlc)
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News Nation's Robert Sherman to Pope Bob: "Any message for the United States?"
Pope Bob: "Many..."
Not sure what that means.
Pope Bob: "Many..."
Not sure what that means.
Posted by: one hour sober at May 13, 2025 02:02 PM (Y1sOo)
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Let’s let Saudi Arabia sink $600b worth of its claws into the US economy and infrastructure, right as we’ve (re) achieved energy independence from the Middle Wast. Great idea. It’s not like letting Arabs have undue influence over our economy has ever created any vulnerabilities.
Posted by: Deceased Head Footyball Coach Howard Schnellenberger at May 13, 2025 02:16 PM (IZrwK)
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Absent other reasonable explanation, I have come to believe that the Las Vegas slaughter was an attempted Saudi Arabia colour revolution/assasination that didn't go as planned. Lots of people were offed in SA not long afterward, and iirc, Kashogi was helped along his way to eternity in about the same timeframe. I wonder if Trump had something to do with helping them to identify the "problems"?
Posted by: Momlady at May 13, 2025 02:29 PM (7ZKrJ)
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Billions/trillions Saudi/muslim investment in USA?
Like what? Build factories or move their productions to USA? Or keep buying Universities and throwing money at American companies and slowly institute sharia into all aspects of American life?
What do the Saudis/muslims have or create that we need? Other than oil?
Like what? Build factories or move their productions to USA? Or keep buying Universities and throwing money at American companies and slowly institute sharia into all aspects of American life?
What do the Saudis/muslims have or create that we need? Other than oil?
Posted by: ploome at May 13, 2025 03:00 PM (AExpd)
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