Liberal Justice David Souter Dead at 85

His left-wing rulings sparked the right to adopt the motto "No More Souters!"

Particularly after the "Borking" of Robert Bork in 1987 (led by Ted Kennedy and Joe Biden) brought ideological critiques of the nominees out into the open, Republican presidents adopted a strategy of looking for "stealth nominees" who had little paper trail of judicial decisions and academic writings to pick apart. Souter, nominated in 1990 to replace Brennan, was the ultimate stealth nominee, a soft-spoken, reclusive, colorless bachelor with no major red flags (from a liberal point of view) in his twelve-year judicial record, most of it on the New Hampshire state courts. George H. W. Bush didn't set out to put a liberal on the Court, but he was willing to take the risk, and that left him vulnerable to staffers such as White House Chief of Staff John Sununu (Souter's fellow New Hampshirite) who had a pretty good idea of what Bush was getting. Democratic interest groups gave Souter the generic Republican treatment, with the National Organization for Women printing "Stop Souter or Women will Die" buttons with an image of a coat hanger, but it didn't fly, and he was confirmed 90-9. Even Biden voted for him; Ted Kennedy and John Kerry didn't.
Souter's subsequent liberal record on the Court -- including voting to sustain Roe in 1992 in Planned Parenthood v. Casey -- made his name a conservative rallying cry of "no more Souters." The stealth nominee strategy came to an abrupt end in 2005 after conservative opposition forced George W. Bush to abandon Harriet Miers, his White House counsel with a scant paper trail, and instead send the Republican-controlled Senate the nomination of Samuel Alito, who already had a long judicial track record that included ruling on the Third Circuit in favor of the pro-life law struck down in Casey. It seems unlikely that either party will attempt anything like the stealth-nominee strategy again.

Except we still are nominating people who turn out to be stealth Souters. I blame the Federalist Society. I don't think they're recommending conservative judges. I think they're recommending judges who follow the upper-middle class white liberal consensus who have some slight moorings to reality. In other words, they're not recommending the hard-left culture warriors the Democrats pack the courts with, but they're still recommending people who are part of the former Liberal Consensus.

The Federalist Society is more concerned about judges who are "clubbable" than conservative.

Souter retired from the Court in 2009 when the presidency was held by Barack Obama. He chose to deliver Obama the chance to appoint another liberal.

Posted by: Ace at 12:43 PM

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1 YOW! HOT!

Posted by: David Souter at May 09, 2025 12:45 PM (gKWVE)

2 Anyway ...

Posted by: ShainS at May 09, 2025 12:45 PM (gdH0L)

3 I laugh when people say that NH is a Red state.

Posted by: Anti-Faucist at May 09, 2025 12:46 PM (qUkBO)

4
Ever notice Democratic SCOTUS nominees never turn into Lochner lovers?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 09, 2025 12:47 PM (QnmlO)

5 Oh well.

Souter will be missed.

By no one. Moulder away, unloved corpse.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 09, 2025 12:47 PM (UGyV5)

6 "Except we still are nominating people who turn out to be stealth Souters. I blame the Federalist Society. I don't think they're recommending conservative judges. I think they're recommending judges who follow the upper-middle class white liberal consensus who have some slight moorings to reality. In other words, they're not recommending the hard-left culture warriors the Democrats pack the courts with, but they're still recommending people who are part of the former Liberal Consensus."

I don't know whether the Federalist Society is actively recommending moderates, but I would say that they've been around for over 40 years. When they started, legal conservatism was in the wilderness. I bet the first FS members were true conservatives, because who would join such a society in the midst of rampant liberal orthodoxy. Over time, however, it grew into yet one more careerist box to tick on the climb up the ladder. It became a victim of its own success.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 09, 2025 12:47 PM (x/+r1)

7 Ginsberg will be next -- after she's finished summitting Everest.

Posted by: ShainS at May 09, 2025 12:47 PM (gdH0L)

8 Hell still hungers for more judges

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 09, 2025 12:48 PM (xcxpd)

9 Should have retired st the end of the younger Bush.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 09, 2025 12:48 PM (Vnr18)

10 I thought Trump has said something along the lines of "no more Federalist Society judges". Or was that someone here?

Posted by: Archimedes at May 09, 2025 12:48 PM (s8j++)

11 how come they always go libtard

has it ever happened that a libtard transitioned to a rightie?

Posted by: kallisto at May 09, 2025 12:48 PM (dCxaZ)

12 I blame the Federalist Society. I don't think they're recommending conservative judges. I think they're recommending judges who follow the upper-middle class white liberal consensus who have some slight moorings to reality.

that's exactly what the Federalist Society was at my law school -- slightly less liberal than they average student and who voted for Bush

Posted by: brak at May 09, 2025 12:48 PM (jGJov)

13 "It seems unlikely that either party will attempt anything like the stealth-nominee strategy again."
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The Left doesn't have to worry about that.

They can nominate candidates who let their freak flag fly, and there's a better than even chance they'll get in.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 09, 2025 12:48 PM (7fElN)

14
Nominated by Bush. What did you expect?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 09, 2025 12:49 PM (QnmlO)

15 Except we still are nominating people who turn out to be stealth Souters. I blame the Federalist Society. I don't think they're recommending conservative judges. I think they're recommending judges who follow the upper-middle class white liberal consensus who have some slight moorings to reality. In other words, they're not recommending the hard-left culture warriors the Democrats pack the courts with, but they're still recommending people who are part of the former Liberal Consensus.

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Gorsuch and Kavanaugh are both...really good.

ACB is not in their level, but she's helped deliver some big wins as well. She's mostly frustrating, obsessing over process like Roberts or siding with Kagan from time to time, rather than a Souter.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 09, 2025 12:49 PM (GBKbO)

16 I'm also less and less attracted to Federalists.
The Anti-Federalists seem to have been more correct with the benefits of hindsight.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 09, 2025 12:49 PM (xcxpd)

17 One liberal article I read about Souter called him "a lifelong bachelor". I wondered why they felt the need to point that out.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 09, 2025 12:49 PM (s8j++)

18 9 Should have retired st the end of the younger Bush.

the younger bush thread is downstairs

Posted by: kallisto at May 09, 2025 12:49 PM (dCxaZ)

19 Has the Supreme Court been properly vaxxed?

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 09, 2025 12:49 PM (Vnr18)

20 Well..bye.

Posted by: Welcome to Hell, let me show ya around at May 09, 2025 12:49 PM (TbWk/)

21 Souter retired from the Court in 2009 when the presidency was held by Barack Obama. He chose to deliver Obama the chance to appoint another liberal.
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And that will be Souter's legacy.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 09, 2025 12:50 PM (RIvkX)

22 11 how come they always go libtard

has it ever happened that a libtard transitioned to a rightie?
Posted by: kallisto at May 09, 2025 12:48 PM (dCxaZ)

A few?
David Mamet and James Woods come to mind

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 09, 2025 12:50 PM (xcxpd)

23 13 The Left doesn't have to worry about that.

They can nominate candidates who let their freak flag fly, and there's a better than even chance they'll get in.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 09, 2025 12:48 PM (7fElN)

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"I don't know what a woman is."
-KJB

"So great."
-Sinema
"So hot."
-Manchin
"HULK SMASH YES VOTE!"
-Fetterman (not in Congress yet, but he woulda)

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 09, 2025 12:50 PM (GBKbO)

24
has it ever happened that a libtard transitioned to a rightie?
Posted by: kallisto at May 09, 2025 12:48 PM (dCxaZ)

Byron White, nominated by JFK, was, on the whole, reliable.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 09, 2025 12:50 PM (QnmlO)

25 I swear I thought Souter had been dead for years, oh he of eminent domain jackassery.

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at May 09, 2025 12:50 PM (GD2xa)

26 21 Souter retired from the Court in 2009 when the presidency was held by Barack Obama. He chose to deliver Obama the chance to appoint another liberal.
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And that will be Souter's legacy.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 09, 2025 12:50 PM (RIvkX)

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The dumbest liberal on SCOTUS ever: Sotomayor.

Souter's legacy is Sotomayor.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 09, 2025 12:51 PM (GBKbO)

27 Souter waited for Obama then retired. Ginsburg waited for Trump then died. I guess that evens the score

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 09, 2025 12:51 PM (vmkyp)

28 His left-wing rulings sparked the right to adopt the motto "No More Souters!"

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There's a punny Muldoon limerick about courters or plaintiffs in there somewhere ...

Posted by: ShainS at May 09, 2025 12:51 PM (gdH0L)

29 Souter retired from the Court in 2009 when the presidency was held by Barack Obama. He chose to deliver Obama the chance to appoint another liberal.
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And that will be Souter's legacy.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

Oh to be remembered for Sotomayor, what a legacy!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 09, 2025 12:51 PM (/AMlJ)

30 I blame the Federalist Society.

Is there power? We will infiltrate it.

Posted by: The Deep State at May 09, 2025 12:51 PM (Xm4LY)

31 Is that the wise latina?

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 09, 2025 12:51 PM (Vnr18)

32
And what's with this sudden idea that young women 18-23 are suddenly "underage" and a 30-40 y/o man dating one is grooming or pedi feel ya? I mean you can not like it from a personal standpoint but huh?

For the left they can't just dislike something - it has to be a crime against humanity, and you can see this across the board.

Elon isn't misguided or even greedy...he's a NAZI

Trump isn't pursuing wrong policies (which note everyone agreed with 20 years ago)...he's a NAZI

and yes even for stupid personal preferences thinks like who celebrities date. If BB was "dating" a tranny he's be the second coming of Martin Luther King junior

Posted by: 18-1 at May 09, 2025 12:52 PM (t0Rmr)

33 Willowed:

It's inexplicable how rarely paupers are the object of such true love.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 09, 2025 12:43 PM (s8j++)

When you’re young you don’t need money to get ladies, but eventually a girl’s gotta stop riding the c*ck carousel and start thinking about her future. A future that involves a lot of wrinkly old skin and doing things you’d never thought you’d do and praying he dies before you’re 50 so you can at least enjoy the money.

City girls just seem to find out early
How to open doors with just a smile
A rich old man, and she won't have to worry
She'll dress up all in lace, go in style
Late at night, a big old house gets lonely
I guess every form of refuge has its price
And it breaks her heart to think her love is only
Given to a man with hands as cold as ice
So she tells him she must go out for the evening
To comfort an old friend who's feelin' down
But he knows where she's goin' as she's leavin'
She is headed for the cheatin' side of town
You can't hide your lyin' eyes
And your smile is a thin disguise
I thought by now you'd realize
There ain't no way to hide your lyin' eyes

Posted by: Archimedes at May 09, 2025 12:52 PM (s8j++)

34 I'm also less and less attracted to Federalists.
The Anti-Federalists seem to have been more correct with the benefits of hindsight.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 09, 2025 12:49 PM (xcxpd)

Yes. The Constitution was a coup against self-determination by citizens and states. The Articles of Confederation needed amending, not a complete rewrite.

Posted by: Leo DiCaprio at May 09, 2025 12:52 PM (l3YAf)

35 The dumbest liberal on SCOTUS
... so far.

Posted by: Ketanji Jackson at May 09, 2025 12:52 PM (gKWVE)

36 I've said it before. If you want a true-blue conservative jurist, the only way to do that is to ask a true-blue conservative jurist whom they'd recommend for the spot. In Trump's case, just ask Clarence Thomas for recommendations.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 09, 2025 12:52 PM (x/+r1)

37 Off groomer sock!

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 09, 2025 12:52 PM (l3YAf)

38 Souter's legacy is Sotomayor.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 09, 2025 12:51 PM (GBKbO)

Good name for a ball player, bad name for a judge.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 09, 2025 12:52 PM (WUoYt)

39 Souter's legacy is Sotomayor.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

I should have known it would already have been noted!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 09, 2025 12:53 PM (/AMlJ)

40 Has the Supreme Court been properly vaxxed?

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 09, 2025 12:49 PM (Vnr1

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Souter should have been wearing a mask ...

Posted by: ShainS at May 09, 2025 12:53 PM (gdH0L)

41 Amy Coney Barrett has me sadly calling for No More Women.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 09, 2025 12:53 PM (NpAcC)

42 18 9 Should have retired st the end of the younger Bush.

the younger bush thread is downstairs

I am ashamed for laughing at that.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 09, 2025 12:53 PM (s8j++)

43 Except we still are nominating people who turn out to be stealth Souters. I blame the Federalist Society

I think it is more that it is very easy to bribe, blackmail, or libel people that are public conservatives.

Why take that hard vote that the Constitution demands when you can say "its a tax!" and keep having sex with tweens at some leftwing oligarch's resort?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 09, 2025 12:53 PM (t0Rmr)

44 "George H. W. Bush"

President Elihu Smails

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at May 09, 2025 12:53 PM (pIfcn)

45 22 11 how come they always go libtard

has it ever happened that a libtard transitioned to a rightie?
Posted by: kallisto at May 09, 2025 12:48 PM (dCxaZ)

A few?
David Mamet and James Woods come to mind
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 09, 2025 12:50 PM (xcxpd)

David Horowitz, PBUH.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 09, 2025 12:53 PM (x/+r1)

46 Inactive Souter Alert!

Posted by: muldoon at May 09, 2025 12:53 PM (HOX+I)

47 I've said it before. If you want a true-blue conservative jurist, the only way to do that is to ask a true-blue conservative jurist whom they'd recommend for the spot. In Trump's case, just ask Clarence Thomas for recommendations.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 09, 2025 12:52 PM (x/+r1)

Create 17 new SCOTUS seats and pack it with plumbers and engineers.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 09, 2025 12:54 PM (l3YAf)

48 I'm sure his spiritual successors Amy Bony Carrot and Boof Kavanaugh will be crying in their payoff bags tonight.

Posted by: ... at May 09, 2025 12:54 PM (gt60b)

49 Should have retired st the end of the younger Bush.

the younger bush thread is downstairs

People make a brazillian jokes like this...

Posted by: 18-1 at May 09, 2025 12:54 PM (t0Rmr)

50
Good name for a ball player, bad name for a judge.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 09, 2025 12:52 PM (WUoYt)

Good name for a ball player who features in one of those "Low IQ Play" compilations: TOOBLAN or forgetting how many outs there are.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 09, 2025 12:54 PM (QnmlO)

51
has it ever happened that a libtard transitioned to a rightie? /i]

Tulsi and RFK to an extent, though its probably fairer to say they stayed where they are while their party moved left...

Posted by: 18-1 at May 09, 2025 12:55 PM (t0Rmr)

52 Should Thomas retire befor 26?

Posted by: tubal at May 09, 2025 12:55 PM (PCK5/)

53
>>>Good name for a ball player, bad name for a judge.

Pinch hitting... for Sonia Sotomoyor... Manny Mota... Mota... Mota...!

Posted by: echo echo echo at May 09, 2025 12:55 PM (jGJov)

54 I've said it before. If you want a true-blue conservative jurist, the only way to do that is to ask a true-blue conservative jurist whom they'd recommend for the spot. In Trump's case, just ask Clarence Thomas for recommendations.
Posted by: Darrell Harris

I've said it before and I'll say it again; I really want Thomas to retire this term, not because he isn't the greatest active justice, but because he's getting up there. Trump should ask him for a recommendation now.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 09, 2025 12:55 PM (s8j++)

55 He's a Souter!

/The Warby Gals

Posted by: muldoon at May 09, 2025 12:56 PM (HOX+I)

56 Souter was significantly worse than any Trump nominee has been. They have been inconsistent and disappointing and often frustrating but he was consistently wrong and awful on nearly every single issue.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2025 12:56 PM (2VST1)

57 From his "Oyez" bio:
Once he was certain no other justices planned to retire in June 2009, Souter announced his retirement [on May 1st, Commie Day] and moved back to his beloved New Hampshire

Thanks, buddy!

Posted by: t-bird at May 09, 2025 12:56 PM (iSdyJ)

58 the younger bush thread is downstairs

People make a brazillian jokes like this...

That was a close shave

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2025 12:56 PM (2VST1)

59 51
has it ever happened that a libtard transitioned to a rightie? /i]

Tulsi and RFK to an extent, though its probably fairer to say they stayed where they are while their party moved left...
Posted by: 18-1 at May 09, 2025 12:55 PM (t0Rmr)

Naomi Wolf.. maybe

Posted by: tubal at May 09, 2025 12:56 PM (PCK5/)

60 "The dumbest liberal on SCOTUS ever: Sotomayor."

You really think she'd lose a dumb-off to Justice Jackson?

Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at May 09, 2025 12:56 PM (VXSVh)

61 I've said it before. If you want a true-blue conservative jurist, the only way to do that is to ask a true-blue conservative jurist whom they'd recommend for the spot. In Trump's case, just ask Clarence Thomas for recommendations.
Posted by: Darrell Harris

-

"How old is the Earth?"

"Is an unborn child in the womb a human being?"

There are probably others but those seem pretty easy.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie -Women, you're pretty in feminine dresses and men like seeing you dressed up at May 09, 2025 12:56 PM (yZCmg)

62 has it ever happened that a libtard transitioned to a rightie?

The late David Horowitz.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 09, 2025 12:57 PM (s8j++)

63 You really think she'd lose a dumb-off to Justice Jackson

Yeah Sotomayor is no brain trust but she looks like Einstein next to Ketanji-Jackson. Plus, her blood type is lard, so she might not be around much longer.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2025 12:57 PM (2VST1)

64 What's a woman?

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 09, 2025 12:58 PM (Vnr18)

65 I blame the Federalist Society. I don't think they're recommending conservative judges. I think they're recommending judges who follow the upper-middle class white liberal consensus who have some slight moorings to reality.

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They are just corporate toadies. Their recommendations are pro big business judges.

During the height of the Trump sham trials I looked on their website and not a word about them.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 09, 2025 12:58 PM (LHqaF)

66 60 "The dumbest liberal on SCOTUS ever: Sotomayor."

You really think she'd lose a dumb-off to Justice Jackson?

Geez, it would be like the SNL Celebrity Jeopardy skits.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 09, 2025 12:58 PM (s8j++)

67 Amy Coney Barrett has me sadly calling for No More Women.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 09, 2025 12:53 PM (NpAcC)

That one was so obvious.

Look, SCOTUS is not a debate society. You’ve got to make hard decisions like deporting pitiable people back to shithole countries, or declaring Obamacare unconstitutional and causing millions to lose health insurance. Children will die because of your decisions.

You don’t need someone with an excess of empathy. Most men can’t handle it, and women are even less likely to be able to enforce the law, even if it hurts people.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 09, 2025 12:58 PM (l3YAf)

68 >>>has it ever happened that a libtard transitioned to a rightie?

not on the Court

Posted by: brak at May 09, 2025 12:58 PM (jGJov)

69 61 I've said it before. If you want a true-blue conservative jurist, the only way to do that is to ask a true-blue conservative jurist whom they'd recommend for the spot. In Trump's case, just ask Clarence Thomas for recommendations.
Posted by: Darrell Harris

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"How old is the Earth?"

"Is an unborn child in the womb a human being?"

There are probably others but those seem pretty easy.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie -Women, you're pretty in feminine dresses and men like seeing you dressed up at May 09, 2025 12:56 PM (yZCmg)

Hih… my answers would half please you, I imagine…

Posted by: tubal at May 09, 2025 12:58 PM (PCK5/)

70 60 "The dumbest liberal on SCOTUS ever: Sotomayor."

You really think she'd lose a dumb-off to Justice Jackson?
Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at May 09, 2025 12:56 PM (VXSVh)

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It'd go to 15 Rounds, but Sotomayor would win because her screeching would be the most incoherent.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 09, 2025 12:58 PM (GBKbO)

71
Pinch hitting... for Sonia Sotomoyor... Manny Mota... Mota... Mota...!

Posted by: echo echo echo at May 09, 2025 12:55 PM (jGJov)

That name! Always associated in my mind with Game 3 of the 1977 NLCS. Hit a drive that clanked off Greg Luzinski's glove. Dodgers scored three in the 9th and won.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 09, 2025 12:58 PM (QnmlO)

72 Geez, it would be like the SNL Celebrity Jeopardy skits.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 09, 2025 12:58 PM (s8j++)

“What is.. a woman?”

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 09, 2025 12:59 PM (l3YAf)

73 16 I'm also less and less attracted to Federalists.
The Anti-Federalists seem to have been more correct with the benefits of hindsight.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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Letters from Brutus are perhaps the best of the various critiques of the Constitution from the anti-federalist camp. Brutus XI through XIV absolutely shredded Hamilton's Federalist papers regarding the judiciary as to how the federal courts would behave and why.

Posted by: whig at May 09, 2025 12:59 PM (ctrM5)

74 I think we've had more than enough female judges. Enough.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2025 12:59 PM (2VST1)

75 Wasn't Souter McGavin the MacGuffin in Happy Gilmore?

Posted by: muldoon at May 09, 2025 12:59 PM (HOX+I)

76 Liberal Justice David Souter Dead at 85

So, anyway...

Posted by: rickb223 at May 09, 2025 12:59 PM (y6oPX)

77 Hih… my answers would half please you, I imagine…
Posted by: tubal

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Everyone is welcome to their own hypothesis regarding the first, but strictly for the purposes of weeding out leftists it would likely be very effective.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie -Women, you're pretty in feminine dresses and men like seeing you dressed up at May 09, 2025 12:59 PM (yZCmg)

78 Gorsuch and Kavanaugh are both...really good.

Gorsuch is as committed to gay rights as Souter.

Bostock v. Clayton County, authored by Gorsuch, held that Title VII of the Civil Rights Act (passed in the 60s) applies to transsexuals.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 09, 2025 01:00 PM (UGyV5)

79 Weird but true . Old man Bush appointed both Thomas and Souter. Definitely a mixed SC legacy

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 09, 2025 01:00 PM (vmkyp)

80 It would take Kagan, Sotomayor, and Jackson a year to figure out why their alphabet soup has no E's but plenty of 3's.

Posted by: ... at May 09, 2025 01:00 PM (gt60b)

81 >> "How old is the Earth?"

The Earth is clearly 36 years old, since I don’t remember anything before that.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 09, 2025 01:00 PM (l3YAf)

82 Geez, it would be like the SNL Celebrity Jeopardy skits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEghu90QJH4

Posted by: Archimedes at May 09, 2025 01:00 PM (s8j++)

83 78 Gorsuch and Kavanaugh are both...really good.

Gorsuch is as committed to gay rights as Souter.

Bostock v. Clayton County, authored by Gorsuch, held that Title VII of the Civil Rights Act (passed in the 60s) applies to transsexuals.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 09, 2025 01:00 PM (UGyV5)

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It's the one major bad spot.

Everywhere else he's been really good.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 09, 2025 01:00 PM (GBKbO)

84 The Supreme Court needs to get those Hawaiian Judges under control. They should fly to Hawaii on a Boeing airplane with a diverse flight crew.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 09, 2025 01:01 PM (Vnr18)

85 The Anti-Federalists seem to have been more correct with the benefits of hindsight.

I think they were less optimistic about human nature and the power of reason. The federalists were all enlightenment types.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2025 01:01 PM (2VST1)

86 I've said it before and I'll say it again; I really want Thomas to retire this term, not because he isn't the greatest active justice, but because he's getting up there. Trump should ask him for a recommendation now.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 09, 2025 12:55 PM (s8j++)

THIS. It would also make for a nice purity test among the Republican Senators. Any one of them that would say no to the replacement (other than Collins) should be immediately primaried at the first opportunity. You don't get to pass on making your choice known on that one.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 09, 2025 01:01 PM (x/+r1)

87 Gorsuch is as committed to gay rights as Souter.

Bostock v. Clayton County, authored by Gorsuch, held that Title VII of the Civil Rights Act (passed in the 60s) applies to transsexuals.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 09, 2025 01:00 PM (UGyV5)

Yep, they all suck. Thomas the least, followed by Alito. The rest are really bad.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 09, 2025 01:01 PM (l3YAf)

88 Look, SCOTUS is not a debate society. You’ve got to make hard decisions like deporting pitiable people back to shithole countries, or declaring Obamacare unconstitutional and causing millions to lose health insurance. Children will die because of your decisions.

You don’t need someone with an excess of empathy. Most men can’t handle it, and women are even less likely to be able to enforce the law, even if it hurts people.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director

It's really easy. Rule on the law. Put the empathy where it belongs. Back on Congress.

Dear Congress,
You WROTE the law. YOU fucked people. Don't like it? Write better laws.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 09, 2025 01:02 PM (y6oPX)

89 If Thomas retires we'll get, hopefully, another conservative. If however Sotomayor eats the big chocolate cake in the sky , we'll get a batshit insane Dem reaction.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 09, 2025 01:03 PM (vmkyp)

90 That there is so much attention paid to the SCOTUS and nominations of Justices is itself an indictment of how out of control the whole thing has gotten.

Cripes. It's gross.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 09, 2025 01:03 PM (Oq5OE)

91 It's really easy. Rule on the law. Put the empathy where it belongs. Back on Congress.

but but.... muh legacy!

Posted by: John Roberts at May 09, 2025 01:03 PM (jGJov)

92 90 That there is so much attention paid to the SCOTUS and nominations of Justices is itself an indictment of how out of control the whole thing has gotten.

Cripes. It's gross.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 09, 2025 01:03 PM (Oq5OE)

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I blame Congress.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 09, 2025 01:03 PM (GBKbO)

93 68 >>>has it ever happened that a libtard transitioned to a rightie?

not on the Court
Posted by: brak at May 09, 2025 12:58 PM (jGJov)

True. It's not called the (Linda) Greenhouse Effect for nothing, after all. It always goes the other way. Sort of like how order always devolves into chaos without active efforts not to make it so.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 09, 2025 01:03 PM (x/+r1)

94 Leftwing judge vote in lock step with whatever the Deep State wants

The best rightwing judges give measured limited rulings and most of them are "bad on some issues"

Posted by: 18-1 at May 09, 2025 01:03 PM (t0Rmr)

95 That will be peak misogynistic racism if Thomas outlives Sotomayer.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie -Women, you're pretty in feminine dresses and men like seeing you dressed up at May 09, 2025 01:03 PM (yZCmg)

96 It's the one major bad spot.

Everywhere else he's been really good.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 09, 2025 01:00 PM (GBKbO)

“Other than being forced to use a changing room with a dress-wearing, mentally-ill man who had his penis out the whole time, how was the play Mrs. Lincoln?”

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 09, 2025 01:03 PM (l3YAf)

97 ****but he was willing to take the risk, and that left him vulnerable to
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I'll never see GWBush as vulnerable again. He and the whole family are players and they aren't and they never have been on our side. I have no feelings of sympathy for them and do not wish them well.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 09, 2025 01:04 PM (sB5dv)

98 but he was willing to take the risk, and that left him vulnerable to
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I'll never see GWBush as vulnerable again. He and the whole family are players and they aren't and they never have been on our side. I have no feelings of sympathy for them and do not wish them well.

Posted by: Braenyard

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Yep. I'm starting to appreciate Papa Bush's "new world order" statement more and more.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie -Women, you're pretty in feminine dresses and men like seeing you dressed up at May 09, 2025 01:05 PM (yZCmg)

99 68 >>>has it ever happened that a libtard transitioned to a rightie?

not on the Court
Posted by: brak
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Byron White comes the closest to it. Appointed by JFK. The Warren court moved left and Byron White remained where he was ideologically (centrist).

Posted by: whig at May 09, 2025 01:05 PM (ctrM5)

100 96
“Other than being forced to use a changing room with a dress-wearing, mentally-ill man who had his penis out the whole time, how was the play Mrs. Lincoln?”
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 09, 2025 01:03 PM (l3YAf)

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Threw out Chevron. Undid Roe. Presidential Immunity. Trump v Hawaii. Bruen.

But yeah, he sucks.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 09, 2025 01:05 PM (GBKbO)

101 92 90 That there is so much attention paid to the SCOTUS and nominations of Justices is itself an indictment of how out of control the whole thing has gotten.

Cripes. It's gross.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 09, 2025 01:03 PM (Oq5OE)

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I blame Congress.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 09, 2025 01:03 PM (GBKbO)

I believe that 100%. They have shamefully abdicated their duties and that for a long time. Disgraceful.. their God is money and power.

Posted by: tubal at May 09, 2025 01:05 PM (PCK5/)

102 Naomi Wolf.. maybe

Definitely an example of “everyone else moved further left”, I think. She was on the Mark Steyn cruise, and basically still believes in the leftism of the past. She just doesn’t believe that men should beat up women and call it sports, or that full totalitarianism is a valid medical strategy, or that rapists should be encouraged by the state because they’re from lesser cultures..

Posted by: Alright alright alright at May 09, 2025 01:05 PM (EXyHK)

103 What are gay rights? Rights that fuck you in the ass?

Posted by: ... at May 09, 2025 01:05 PM (gt60b)

104 I'll never see GWBush as vulnerable again. He and the whole family are players and they aren't and they never have been on our side. I have no feelings of sympathy for them and do not wish them well.

The Deep State, oh which he was part, was a different beast when Bush 41 was president. Not that its good that there is ever a shadow government running things in a republic but...this is before they got on the Globohomo train for example

Posted by: 18-1 at May 09, 2025 01:05 PM (t0Rmr)

105 The best rightwing judges give measured limited rulings and most of them are "bad on some issues"

Yeah if I agree with every single thing someone says and does, one of us is redundant, at best. I won't agree with EVERYTHING that anyone does, not even myself. Some issues matter more than others, obviously, but I can live with a justice having a blind spot or dumb area, if they are otherwise reliable and good. As long as it isn't a really critical area.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2025 01:05 PM (2VST1)

106 17 One liberal article I read about Souter called him "a lifelong bachelor". I wondered why they felt the need to point that out.
Posted by: Archimedes

I read somewhere that his parents had him, their only son. He was a lifelong bachelor, no kids.

So basically his family line ended with him, so sad.

Posted by: Scott_T at May 09, 2025 01:06 PM (2waQ7)

107 Ike gave us both Earl Warren and William Brennan. Warren had been the Republican governor of California. Those two produced some of the worst liberal decisions in SC history

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 09, 2025 01:06 PM (vmkyp)

108 101 92 90 That there is so much attention paid to the SCOTUS and nominations of Justices is itself an indictment of how out of control the whole thing has gotten.

Cripes. It's gross.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 09, 2025 01:03 PM (Oq5OE)

=======

I blame Congress.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 09, 2025 01:03 PM (GBKbO)

I believe that 100%. They have shamefully abdicated their duties and that for a long time. Disgraceful.. their God is money and power.
Posted by: tubal at May 09, 2025 01:05 PM (PCK5/)

And doing whatever is necessary not to make any tough decisions that might cost them at the ballot box. Except for Obamacare. The libs were happy to sacrifice themselves to make that one happen.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 09, 2025 01:06 PM (x/+r1)

109 One liberal article I read about Souter called him "a lifelong bachelor". I wondered why they felt the need to point that out.
Posted by: Archimedes

Used to be code for pickle puffer.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 09, 2025 01:07 PM (y6oPX)

110 86 I've said it before and I'll say it again; I really want Thomas to retire this term, not because he isn't the greatest active justice, but because he's getting up there. Trump should ask him for a recommendation now.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 09, 2025 12:55 PM (s8j++)
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Yes, it's always a good idea to get rid of your best jurist.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 09, 2025 01:07 PM (sB5dv)

111 Losing Thomas will be the biggest blow to conservatism this side of losing Big T.

Posted by: ... at May 09, 2025 01:07 PM (gt60b)

112 That there is so much attention paid to the SCOTUS and nominations of Justices is itself an indictment of how out of control the whole thing has gotten.

Yep. Supreme Court justices are supposed to rule on disputes between states and international legal issues. They blithely took onto themselves more and more power -- and worse congress kept ceding more and more power to them -- that now they are incredibly important and its a battle almost to the death for every justice.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2025 01:07 PM (2VST1)

113 Dear Congress,
You WROTE the law. YOU fucked people. Don't like it? Write better laws.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 09, 2025 01:02 PM (y6oPX)

But that's haaaard. We don't waaaannaa.

Posted by: Mike Johnson at May 09, 2025 01:08 PM (gKWVE)

114 92 90 That there is so much attention paid to the SCOTUS and nominations of Justices is itself an indictment of how out of control the whole thing has gotten.

Cripes. It's gross.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 09, 2025 01:03 PM (Oq5OE)

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I blame Congress.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Enough blame to go around here for all. Simply put, the Supreme Court (or any court) is not and can never be a 'guardian' of the Constitution and its protected rights and liberties.

It is a specialized bureaucracy that settles disputes and uses legal reasoning to support their particular resolution of a dispute. But it will always have a systemic bias to preserve its own power, limit those of its competitors and favor the national over the state.

Posted by: whig at May 09, 2025 01:08 PM (ctrM5)

115 I don't think I have ever disagreed with or not understood Thomas. A marvel.

Posted by: ... at May 09, 2025 01:08 PM (gt60b)

116 Threw out Chevron. Undid Roe. Presidential Immunity. Trump v Hawaii. Bruen.

But yeah, he sucks.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 09, 2025 01:05 PM (GBKbO)

Fuck one horse and you’re a horsefucker for life.

I’m also not convinced throwing out Chevron was good.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 09, 2025 01:08 PM (l3YAf)

117 102 Naomi Wolf.. maybe

Definitely an example of “everyone else moved further left”,
_____

And discovered that people on the right are in general nice people and that her friends on the left are scumbags once she began expressing thoughtcrime.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 09, 2025 01:08 PM (Dv3i1)

118 106 17 One liberal article I read about Souter called him "a lifelong bachelor". I wondered why they felt the need to point that out.
Posted by: Archimedes

I read somewhere that his parents had him, their only son. He was a lifelong bachelor, no kids.

So basically his family line ended with him, so sad.
Posted by: Scott_T at May 09, 2025 01:06 PM (2waQ7)

Souter was almost assuredly gay.

Note that the supreme court sort of turned on a dime on gay shit after he joined the court, consistent with the storied Republican philosophy that it is better that the West should fall than say no to gays, women, or minorities ever.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 09, 2025 01:09 PM (UGyV5)

119 Yes, it's always a good idea to get rid of your best jurist.

Well its not a matter of getting rid of him, its a matter of controlling when he leaves. He is old and not immortal, and sooner or later he'll be leaving the position. Who will replace him?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2025 01:09 PM (2VST1)

120 116 Fuck one horse and you’re a horsefucker for life.

I’m also not convinced throwing out Chevron was good.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 09, 2025 01:08 PM (l3YAf)

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Well, then you're a boring commenter who will never take in new information.

Safe to ignore forever.

Got it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 09, 2025 01:09 PM (GBKbO)

121 Yes. The Constitution was a coup against self-determination by citizens and states. The Articles of Confederation needed amending, not a complete rewrite.
Posted by: Leo DiCaprio

1st off let's just dispense with the idea that this on topic.
2nd. The Anti-Federalists were just a bunch of spergs that insisted that listing rights, powers, and by extension, things forbidden to Congress, the Pres, was somehow going to perfect the Union. Spoiler: we'd be here only sooner.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 09, 2025 01:09 PM (mlg/3)

122 If Thomas retires we'll get, hopefully, another conservative. If however Sotomayor eats the big chocolate cake in the sky , we'll get a batshit insane Dem reaction.

Soooo.....Tuesday?

Yes, it's always a good idea to get rid of your best jurist.

That's exactly why we got to replace RBG. She insisted on clinging on. Do you think the libs don't regret that?

Posted by: Archimedes at May 09, 2025 01:10 PM (s8j++)

123 That there is so much attention paid to the SCOTUS and nominations of Justices is itself an indictment of how out of control the whole thing has gotten.

Cripes. It's gross.
Posted by: WitchDoktor

There's going to be a reckoning between SCOTUS and PDJT before Trump's term is up.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * poorly trained emotional support moron at May 09, 2025 01:10 PM (Uzn0I)

124 Dear Congress,
You WROTE the law. YOU fucked people. Don't like it? Write better laws.
Posted by: rickb223

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This is key for me. I would have no problem with the SCOTUS seizing power if they ruled without emotion. Obamacare is a perfect example, cut and dry. There was no boilerplate "if anything is found to be unconstitutional" or whatever at the start.

But they wiggled around and pretended it had it because all laws had it and it's a law guys, seriously.

If things like that were approached properly I'd have no problem with them reviewing and laughing as they said "this is a problem." It would only improve Congress.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie -Women, you're pretty in feminine dresses and men like seeing you dressed up at May 09, 2025 01:10 PM (yZCmg)

125 Yes, it's always a good idea to get rid of your best jurist.

I kind of have to agree with both of you on this. In 2028, Thomas will be 80. But he’s clearly the strongest justice we currently have. Who would replace him? How well would they hold up in DC?

I also tend to think of Thomas as possibly the only normal person on the court. He seems to thoroughly enjoy his personal life; if he thinks it’s best to sacrifice that to stay on the court, he probably has a closer perspective on that need than I do.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 09, 2025 01:11 PM (EXyHK)

126 Have Democrats found their rape accuser yet?

Posted by: Harry at May 09, 2025 01:11 PM (VlTXJ)

127 Threw out Chevron

People seem to think that federal district court judges weighing in on the executive's administrative state is going to yield libertarian results somehow. Usually the same people who are bigmad about federal district judges weighing in on the executive's EOs. To coin a phrase, I don't get it.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 09, 2025 01:11 PM (UGyV5)

128 Used to be code for pickle puffer.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 09, 2025 01:07 PM (y6oPX

One article referred to Souter having had three girlfriends in the past ( not at the same time, I think) One said she felt he was too scholarly and busy to settle down. In this day and age we seem to have the assumption that all men who have never been married are gay. I think that's still not correct.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2025 01:11 PM (kjWDa)

129 You are very unlikely to encounter any conservative - student or faculty - at a law school. At my law school, I was really the only conservative person I knew. When the pool of participants is almost zero, the membership of the club doesn't necessarily reflect a pool of "conservatives" as much as it reflects a pool of "people who are not as extreme as some of the other liberal students."

Law school is where all of this starts (actually it starts in elementary school, but law school is the gateway to the legal profession). In 1L Contracts Law, from the very beginning we had a lot of discussion about "critical legal theory" - basically legalistic socialism. We were encouraged to view contracts through a lens of what was the "fair" outcome based on the professor's views of structural inequities in the development of the law. This was the approach in all classes, clubs, clinics,... everything.

Complaining that the Federalist society only picks liberal judges misses that this is virtually all there is to pick from. A long march must retake law schools to correct this problem.

Posted by: DPICM at May 09, 2025 01:12 PM (M2VUX)

130 107 Ike gave us both Earl Warren and William Brennan. Warren had been the Republican governor of California. Those two produced some of the worst liberal decisions in SC history
Posted by: Smell the Glove
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Warren got Scotus as a payoff for supporting Ike instead of Taft and to not run himself for prezzie. Tom Dewey arranged it.

He was also the governor of California that called on the Feds to do something about the Japanese Americans so they used him to support internment camps for them.

Warren and later Brennan were simply politicians in black robes using the Court as a constitutional amendment body.

Posted by: whig at May 09, 2025 01:12 PM (ctrM5)

131 Please, President Trump: no more women on the court.

That's all I ask.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at May 09, 2025 01:12 PM (AwlwC)

132 I blame Congress.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 09, 2025 01:03 PM (GBKbO)

I blame Thomas Jefferson and you for not hanging John Marshall when you had the chance.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 09, 2025 01:12 PM (l3YAf)

133 He was smart enough to retire early, and get to enjoy it. And a damn good jurist before that.

If I remember correctly, he was appointed under George HW Bush at the request of John Sununu, his fascist chief of staff. At the time, I distinctly recall that he was touted as an intellectual, who was devoted to the law, unmarried, and with no allusions at all whatsoever to his private life, which, as far as I’m concerned is fine, but somewhat mysterious in those days.

People thought he would be an arch conservative justice, but wound up leaving the enemy camp to which he was assigned and was a good guy for his entire term.

There must’ve been more than met the eye with this whole business, and my guess is we will never know.

Souter was a misfire in the attempt to put reliably conservative/RW judges on the USSC. During the nomination process, he was called the "stealth" nominee because of his relative lack of a paper trail about his views.

So the GOP thought they were putting a conservative on the court, but then found out he was not as conservatively correct as they liked.

Ever since, they've made very, very sure that doesn't happen again.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 09, 2025 01:12 PM (GNjcL)

134 11 how come they always go libtard

Posted by: kallisto at May 09, 2025 12:48 PM (dCxaZ)

Cocktail parties. Sex parties.

Wanting to be part of the club.

Posted by: XTC at May 09, 2025 01:13 PM (UnA8+)

135 That the Supreme Court is a bit a matter of roulette is pretty damn wild, all things considered.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 09, 2025 01:13 PM (KbCG3)

136 Posted by: whig at May 09, 2025 01:08 PM (ctrM5)

There is no possible system on earth that can't be used to subvert and destroy itself.

Even the most totalitarian dictatorial system is vulnerable through exactly that. Concentrate all the power and the destroyers get handed the easiest target around.

Posted by: ... at May 09, 2025 01:14 PM (gt60b)

137 The Anti-Federalists were just a bunch of spergs that insisted that listing rights, powers, and by extension, things forbidden to Congress, the Pres, was somehow going to perfect the Union

It wasn't that. They didn't expect perfection, they presumed it was impossible and you had to be as specific and direct as possible. Think about how many times we've wished the 2nd amendment was even more clearly stated? How many times we wish the constitution had said more specifically about something? Why?

Because people are NOT perfect, or perfectible on this earth. Because people will bastardize and ruin everything, and the only way to at least slow that or make it more difficult is to be very precise and state things clearly.

The Federalist guys thought the Bill of Rights was unnecessary.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2025 01:14 PM (2VST1)

138 127 Threw out Chevron

People seem to think that federal district court judges weighing in on the executive's administrative state is going to yield libertarian results somehow. Usually the same people who are bigmad about federal district judges weighing in on the executive's EOs. To coin a phrase, I don't get it.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 09, 2025 01:11 PM (UGyV5)

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Who said this? Who said it would lead to libertarian utopia?

Chevron was bad case law that gave the executive the power to make law through regulation. It greatly, greatly enhanced the power of the executive, removing any need by Congress to actually write clear laws because the executive could just make it up.

Yes, it makes NEW regulation judicially reviewable. That makes the judiciary the gatekeeper of new regulation (a reactive one, again, because it has to respond to lawsuits). It's an increase of separation of powers, which is good.

Also, Trump's memo from April 9, DIRECTING THE REPEAL OF UNLAWFUL REGULATIONS, listed Chevron first as the justification to rip out as much regulation as possible from the federal register.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 09, 2025 01:14 PM (GBKbO)

139 Looking at FOX headlines to see the important news of the day:

New study uncovers reason for nearly every alligator attack on humans

[They're tasty?]

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 09, 2025 01:15 PM (sB5dv)

140 Complaining that the Federalist society only picks liberal judges misses that this is virtually all there is to pick from. A long march must retake law schools to correct this problem.
Posted by: DPICM at May 09, 2025 01:12 PM (M2VUX)

Or just pack the courts with plumbers and engineers.

The problem is the law has become a racket, and like all professions is a conspiracy against the laity. It’s bad enough in most fields, but when our government becomes an impenetrable morass of legal technicalities we’ve completely lost self-government.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 09, 2025 01:15 PM (l3YAf)

141 That there is so much attention paid to the SCOTUS and nominations of Justices is itself an indictment of how out of control the whole thing has gotten.

***********

- popes
-British Monarchs
- tAmerican Idol winners
- U.S. Presidential elections
- RuPaul's Drag Race
- The Super Bowl

Posted by: muldoon at May 09, 2025 01:15 PM (HOX+I)

142 There may be hope for formerly Great Britain.

Thousand of young British patriots chant "Keir Starmer’s a Wanker"

He has completely lost the youth.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1920758313328795820

Posted by: Archimedes at May 09, 2025 01:15 PM (s8j++)

143 @122 the left did everything they could to get RBG to retire. No dice
We shouldn't force Thomas out, but I'm sure he'll think about the ramifications, especially after RBG stubbornly hanging on

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 09, 2025 01:16 PM (vmkyp)

144 Cocktail parties. Sex parties.

Wanting to be part of the club.
Posted by: XTC at May 09, 2025 01:13 PM (UnA8+)

But you repeat yourself.

Posted by: ... at May 09, 2025 01:16 PM (gt60b)

145 Good riddance to Souter. Here is hoping Kagan and Sotomeyer go to sleep one night during the Trump Administration and slip the surly bonds of the Earth.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 09, 2025 01:17 PM (qoLdL)

146 New study uncovers reason for nearly every alligator attack on humans

***********

Handbag Revenge

Posted by: muldoon at May 09, 2025 01:17 PM (HOX+I)

147 121 Yes. The Constitution was a coup against self-determination by citizens and states. The Articles of Confederation needed amending, not a complete rewrite.
Posted by: Leo DiCaprio

Not really. The Articles could not be saved because of two critical flaws. It had no way for the national government to protect itself so states ignored it and it required unanimous agreement of all states to change it. Rhode Island always refused because it would prevent Rhode Island's state legislature from doing whatever the hell it wanted.

The history of the states after the Revolution is seldom told but Massachusetts provoked a rebellion, parts of the trans Appalachians were still occupied by the Brits because Virginia among others did not obey the Paris Treaty of 1783, there were widespread property seizures, exhorbitant taxes, states threatening war with each other and each state trying to bugger their neighboring states in economics.

It was NOT a libertarian paradise that some seem to think.

Posted by: whig at May 09, 2025 01:17 PM (ctrM5)

148 I swear I thought Souter had been dead for years, oh he of eminent domain jackassery.
Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at May 09, 2025 12:50 PM (GD2xa)

He might as well have been.

Speaking of eminent domain, you won't find Kelo vs. City of New London mentioned in Souter's Wiki writeup. For that matter, articles seem to do their best to obscure his role in the matter, even in the case where folks were trying to apply eminent domain to him as payback for his role.

Odd, that.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at May 09, 2025 01:17 PM (/HDaX)

149 Ike gave us both Earl Warren and William Brennan.

As usual, Hank Hill gets it right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej1xnAzR_nk

Posted by: Oddbob at May 09, 2025 01:18 PM (/y8xj)

150 especially after RBG stubbornly hanging on

"Hillary cannot lose! She should be leading by 70 points! Its a shoo in!"
--Ruth Bader Ginsberg's withered form on a stretcher

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2025 01:18 PM (2VST1)

151 the left did everything they could to get RBG to retire. No dice
We shouldn't force Thomas out, but I'm sure he'll think about the ramifications, especially after RBG stubbornly hanging on
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 09, 2025 01:16 PM (vmkyp)

What reason does he have to believe there will be a good replacement?

Posted by: ... at May 09, 2025 01:18 PM (gt60b)

152 Who said this? Who said it would lead to libertarian utopia?

1. Bad law can only be replaced by perfect law.

2. Perfection does not exist.

3. Profit!!!

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 09, 2025 01:18 PM (EXyHK)

153 It seems unlikely that either party will attempt anything like the stealth-nominee strategy again.

Ahem.

Posted by: Amy Coney Barrett! at May 09, 2025 01:18 PM (xTIDn)

154 New study uncovers reason for nearly every alligator attack on humans

************

Troy Landry is LITERALLY Hitler!

Posted by: muldoon at May 09, 2025 01:18 PM (HOX+I)

155 We shouldn't force Thomas out, but I'm sure he'll think about the ramifications, especially after RBG stubbornly hanging on

Well, yeah. There's no way I know of to force out a recalcitrant justice. Nobody's talking about that. I'm calling on Thomas to make one more statesmanlike move, and let Trump name his replacement.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 09, 2025 01:18 PM (s8j++)

156 155 We shouldn't force Thomas out, but I'm sure he'll think about the ramifications, especially after RBG stubbornly hanging on

Well, yeah. There's no way I know of to force out a recalcitrant justice. Nobody's talking about that. I'm calling on Thomas to make one more statesmanlike move, and let Trump name his replacement.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 09, 2025 01:18 PM (s8j++)

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What is even the mechanism for forcing out a SCOTUS judge other than impeachment?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 09, 2025 01:19 PM (GBKbO)

157 One liberal article I read about Souter called him "a lifelong bachelor". I wondered why they felt the need to point that out.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 09, 2025 12:49 PM (s8j++)

usually code for Gay back in the day

Posted by: Oldcat at May 09, 2025 01:19 PM (8avO+)

158 ***Wanting to be part of the club.
Posted by: XTC
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Clubs like tire irons are the missing part of the equation.
If on the ground conservatives employed more clubs for these elected officials they wouldn't be so eager for the cocktail set and more amenable to those who voted them into office.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 09, 2025 01:19 PM (sB5dv)

159 "New study uncovers reason for nearly every alligator attack on humans"

Hangry?

Posted by: fd at May 09, 2025 01:19 PM (vFG9F)

160 Hopefully Souter was a celebrate gay. But who knows what went on in the backwoods of NH with those rosey cheeked Boy Scouts

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 09, 2025 01:19 PM (wBaIH)

161 What reason does he have to believe there will be a good replacement?

You know what's the worst replacement for him? President Buttgag's choice.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2025 01:19 PM (2VST1)

162
Please, President Trump: no more women on the court.

That's all I ask.
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus

==============

Amy Wax would be great.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 09, 2025 01:19 PM (U7Gpi)

163 Souter retired from the Court in 2009 when the presidency was held by Barack Obama. He chose to deliver Obama the chance to appoint another liberal.

I guess he couldn't hold out for another seven... but managed to do 16.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 09, 2025 01:20 PM (zhin0)

164 Posted by: DPICM at May 09, 2025 01:12 PM (M2VUX)

Thanks for your post. Noting how liberal law schools are is important. I'd suggest Bill Jacobsen from "Legal Insurrection" for the Supreme Court but he seems to doing really valuable work with his groups and advocacy.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2025 01:20 PM (kjWDa)

165 consistent with the storied Republican philosophy that it is better that the West should fall than say no to gays, women, or minorities ever.

don't want to be mean or anything like that

Posted by: brak at May 09, 2025 01:20 PM (jGJov)

166 Amy Wax would be great.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 09, 2025 01:19 PM (U7Gpi)

Very admirable person.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2025 01:20 PM (kjWDa)

167
"New study uncovers reason for nearly every alligator attack on humans"

You taste like chicken

Posted by: The Alligators at May 09, 2025 01:21 PM (pIfcn)

168 As usual, Hank Hill gets it right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej1xnAzR_nk
Posted by: Oddbob

My laugh for the day. Thanks Ob.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * poorly trained emotional support moron at May 09, 2025 01:21 PM (Uzn0I)

169 The problem is the law has become a racket, and like all professions is a conspiracy against the laity. It’s bad enough in most fields, but when our government becomes an impenetrable morass of legal technicalities we’ve completely lost self-government.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 09, 2025 01:15 PM (l3YAf)

The problem is lawyers are required to write laws. It was a racket from the start.

Posted by: ... at May 09, 2025 01:21 PM (gt60b)

170 142 There may be hope for formerly Great Britain.

Thousand of young British patriots chant "Keir Starmer’s a Wanker"

He has completely lost the youth.
_____

Interesting. I wonder if this is the beginning of a replay of the 60s, the youth rebelling against the establishment, but only this time the establishment is full of liberal wankers and the youth are looking to change society to something resembling more traditional values.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 09, 2025 01:21 PM (Dv3i1)

171 162
Please, President Trump: no more women on the court.

That's all I ask.
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus

==============

Amy Wax would be great.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 09, 2025 01:19 PM (U7Gpi)

You want Amy Wax… you’ll get DOCTOR!!! Amy Bishop….

Posted by: tubal at May 09, 2025 01:21 PM (PCK5/)

172 Yes, it makes NEW regulation judicially reviewable. That makes the judiciary the gatekeeper of new regulation (a reactive one, again, because it has to respond to lawsuits). It's an increase of separation of powers, which is good.

All it ends up meaning is that whoever controls the judiciary will now also control the administrative state to a significant degree. No one in their right mind thinks that what the country needs is more judicial oversight, but that will be the result. And whether its leftist or rightist oversight will merely depend on national elections and to some extent luck (which party gets the most appellate and supreme court openings to fill).

The only solution to administrative overreach is the reassertion of congressional authority. But they're too busy lining their pockets to legislate.

Overruling Chevron is like changing your shirt in response to shitting your pants.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 09, 2025 01:21 PM (UGyV5)

173 "New study uncovers reason for nearly every alligator attack on humans"

-

We don't even know how many moons the Earth has, but we're somehow going to claim...

Oh Science.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie -Women, you're pretty in feminine dresses and men like seeing you dressed up at May 09, 2025 01:21 PM (yZCmg)

174 Hopefully Souter was a celebrate gay

I liked the typo or autocorrect .

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2025 01:21 PM (kjWDa)

175 17 One liberal article I read about Souter called him "a lifelong bachelor". I wondered why they felt the need to point that out.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 09, 2025 12:49 PM (s8j++)

He's just a confirmed bachelor, like me!

Posted by: Liberace at May 09, 2025 01:21 PM (k1E2D)

176 I wanna see Elric Blade on SCOTUS one day.

Posted by: Bulg at May 09, 2025 01:22 PM (77rzZ)

177

When I see this guy’s name think of David Brooks softly saying his name and straddling the fence while siding with the Communist Party while trashing in his sensitive way any Conservative.

Then I can also hear Pat Buchanan laughing at him.

Posted by: E Buzz at May 09, 2025 01:22 PM (QYkGV)

178 157 One liberal article I read about Souter called him "a lifelong bachelor". I wondered why they felt the need to point that out.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 09, 2025 12:49 PM (s8j++)

usually code for Gay back in the day
Posted by: Oldcat

Hey, I'm a lifelong bachelor!

Posted by: Lin at May 09, 2025 01:23 PM (Dv3i1)

179 Hey, I'm a lifelong bachelor!
Posted by: Lin

That was me posting.

Posted by: Lindsey Graham at May 09, 2025 01:23 PM (Dv3i1)

180 Wasn't Souter the won wrote the opinion in that horribel Kelo case, where they allowed that woman's house to be taken away?

Posted by: Bulg at May 09, 2025 01:23 PM (77rzZ)

181 172 All it ends up meaning is that whoever controls the judiciary will now also control the administrative state to a significant degree. No one in their right mind thinks that what the country needs is more judicial oversight, but that will be the result. And whether its leftist or rightist oversight will merely depend on national elections and to some extent luck (which party gets the most appellate and supreme court openings to fill).

The only solution to administrative overreach is the reassertion of congressional authority. But they're too busy lining their pockets to legislate.

Overruling Chevron is like changing your shirt in response to shitting your pants.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 09, 2025 01:21 PM (UGyV5)

========

Yes, the ultimate answer is for Congress to reassert its authority with better written legislation.

That doesn't mean that the executive suddenly not being free to write whatever regulations it wants, being cockblocked, potentially, by the judiciary, is a bad thing. Or that it's a status quo.

If the point is deregulation, it hastens the process. If the point is increasing regulation, it slows that process.

That's good, and progress.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 09, 2025 01:23 PM (GBKbO)

182 160 Hopefully Souter was a celebrate gay.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 09, 2025 01:19 PM (wBaIH)

Soon.

Posted by: Pride Month at May 09, 2025 01:23 PM (pIfcn)

183 AMF

Posted by: Don Black. Message: look for the white whale at May 09, 2025 01:24 PM (AOsQT)

184 JD Vance when asked if America will get involved in India vs Pakistan

It's fundamentally none of our business...

THIS IS THE WAY.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 09, 2025 01:24 PM (QAkQ3)

185 @156 beyond impeachment the only way to "force" someone out is social or political pressure. It failed with Ginsburg either because she was stubborn or because she pined for a Hillary victory. Just hope Thomas does the math

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 09, 2025 01:24 PM (vmkyp)

186 Yeah, not every guy who doesn't marry in a long life is queer (I'm single for example) but it is generally not a promising sign, especially in someone who is successful and famous. I'm single because I am broke and have poor health, but Souter? Being busy isn't really a good explanation.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2025 01:25 PM (2VST1)

187 Posted by: tubal at May 09, 2025 01:21 PM (PCK5/)

So far Amy Wax hasn't killed anyway and Wax fought against the school which terminated her.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2025 01:25 PM (kjWDa)

188 Celebate?

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 09, 2025 01:25 PM (Vnr18)

189 The Federalist guys thought the Bill of Rights was unnecessary.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

From their flawed perspective, they believed that enumerating the powers of the federal government was sufficient. But, their counter critique of a Bill of Rights was equally on point. States had already had the problem of their own state bills of right not taken seriously by their own state judiciaries. Virginia was one of them. Neither South Carolina or Georgia had Bills of Rights. South Carolina did not get a state Bill of Rights until the Reconstruction and Georgia did not until 1861 when it seceded. Georgia even did not have a Supreme Court until 1846.

And even since then, Scotus has basically mangled, stealth amended, or simply ignored portions of the Constitution and Bill of Rights it did not like. Privileges and Immunities--ppppth, Contract clause---pshaw, Guaranty clause--naw, we're good.

Institutions will not save a corrupt people whether it is the Constitution, separation of powers, or federalism. These simply make tyrants have to work up a sweat a bit like releasing an engineered virus and compelling a harmful shot.

Posted by: whig at May 09, 2025 01:25 PM (ctrM5)

190 I've said it before and I'll say it again; I really want Thomas to retire this term, not because he isn't the greatest active justice, but because he's getting up there. Trump should ask him for a recommendation now.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 09, 2025 12:55 PM (s8j++)

THIS. It would also make for a nice purity test among the Republican Senators. Any one of them that would say no to the replacement (other than Collins) should be immediately primaried at the first opportunity. You don't get to pass on making your choice known on that one.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 09, 2025 01:01 PM (x/+r1)

I wouldn't hope for that until we can find a coherent judge to replace him. I'm not even asking rock ribbed MAGA as much as paying attention to any law at all and not playing some obscure game of norms like Roberts has been.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 09, 2025 01:26 PM (8avO+)

191 Apparently you can now buy heterosexuality at Walmart now.

Post

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Collin Rugg@CollinRugg
Lesbian says she doesn't want to be gay anymore after Walmart released its new Pride Month shirts including a "Homo Estas?" shirt.
"Walmart really making me not wanna be gay no more... we can just go ahead and skip Pride Month," the woman said.
Looks like Walmart is playing 4D chess here.

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After decades of wondering, I think I have translated Santana's hit Oye Como Va. It means hey how are you. Or, in Native American, Heyhowareya Heyhowareya Heyhowareya.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 09, 2025 01:26 PM (b/BT0)

192 IMHO, lifelong bachelor should’ve been a red flag…. Marriage can be painful but it forces growth and maturity. The same with parenthood

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 09, 2025 01:26 PM (ANuwa)

193 187 Posted by: tubal at May 09, 2025 01:21 PM (PCK5/)

So far Amy Wax hasn't killed anyway and Wax fought against the school which terminated her.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2025 01:25 PM (kjWDa)

I am fine with the Amy Wax concept… Your point?

Posted by: tubal at May 09, 2025 01:26 PM (PCK5/)

194 Why I despised Souter is because his pretend "conservative" views were really just "The Government is Always Right." He looked pro-police simply because to him, they were part of the government, and The Government is Always Right. If the government wants to take your house, The Government is Always Right. If the government wants to regulate your speech, The Government is Always Right. That was his only consistent judicial "philosophy."

Total piece of shit.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 09, 2025 01:26 PM (uWKK8)

195 I wouldn't hope for that until we can find a coherent judge to replace him. I'm not even asking rock ribbed MAGA as much as paying attention to any law at all and not playing some obscure game of norms like Roberts has been.

That's why I suggested that Trump ask Thomas who he'd recommend. If anyone will know who is a good replacement, it's him.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 09, 2025 01:27 PM (s8j++)

196 Posted by: Bulg at May 09, 2025 01:22 PM (77rzZ

Will he keep the name "Blade"? And what is that a reference to anyway, just a creative name or a name of a video game character?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2025 01:27 PM (kjWDa)

197 I married once, it failed, and I didn't attempt it again. I'm a 'rest of my life long' bachelor.

Posted by: Don Black. Message: look for the white whale at May 09, 2025 01:27 PM (AOsQT)

198 180 Wasn't Souter the won wrote the opinion in that horribel Kelo case, where they allowed that woman's house to be taken away?
Posted by: Bulg
========
Yep and it pissed off the small community where Souter lived to the extent that it threatened to seize his house and grounds in order to make a park. Using eminent domain of course.

Posted by: whig at May 09, 2025 01:27 PM (ctrM5)

199 IMHO, lifelong bachelor should’ve been a red flag…. Marriage can be painful but it forces growth and maturity. The same with parenthood

Thus neatly closing the loop with the earlier May-December romance thread.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 09, 2025 01:28 PM (s8j++)

200 It was NOT a libertarian paradise that some seem to think.
Posted by: whig at May 09, 2025 01:17 PM (ctrM5)

America’s never been a libertarian paradise. I’m under no delusions there.

The problem with the Constitution is you can’t create a powerful centralized state and then say “And be good” and expect it to stick. It’s just words on paper.

It’s also poorly thought-out and written. Look at SCOTUS: most of its real power is “implicit”, Chief Justice is only mentioned once, incidentally, in the part about trying impeachments. Good lord, what a mess.

America has a written Constitution, which is ignored, and an unwritten Constitution, which is the mass of law and institutions that comprise our real gov’t. The divergence started as soon as the damned thing was ratified, and really got going with Marbury.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 09, 2025 01:28 PM (l3YAf)

201 Have another empanada, Senora Sotomayor.

Posted by: wth at May 09, 2025 01:28 PM (v0R5T)

202 "Walmart really making me not wanna be gay no more...

--

She accidentally admits that if Brad Pitt (or Bill Bellichick) showed interest then she would magically be available.

"Oh, I guess I'm bisexual" she would casually explain.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie -Women, you're pretty in feminine dresses and men like seeing you dressed up at May 09, 2025 01:28 PM (yZCmg)

203 JD Vance when asked if America will get involved in India vs Pakistan

It's fundamentally none of our business...

THIS IS THE WAY.
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 09, 2025 01:24 PM (QAkQ3)

Yes! And I hope our recent immigrants from these countries don't fight their battle here

Posted by: night lifted at May 09, 2025 01:28 PM (FZn/N)

204 Yep and it pissed off the small community where Souter lived to the extent that it threatened to seize his house and grounds in order to make a park. Using eminent domain of course.

Posted by: whig

Yes, I remember that now.

Posted by: Bulg at May 09, 2025 01:28 PM (77rzZ)

205 John Paul Stevens wrote the Kelo v New London decision. Souter concurred. The best part of the decision was the reaction to it. Something like 42 states tightened up what could be considered for an eminent domain reason

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 09, 2025 01:28 PM (vmkyp)

206 197 I married once, it failed, and I didn't attempt it again. I'm a 'rest of my life long' bachelor.
Posted by: Don Black. Message: look for the white whale at May 09, 2025 01:27 PM (AOsQT)

Except for doing the laundry and cleaning the house….

Posted by: tubal at May 09, 2025 01:28 PM (PCK5/)

207 Backing Bush went hand in hand with backing our troops against the left's quagmire brigade. We did it for the grunts, not Bush.

Recall Scott Beauchamp's Storm Troopers TRN articles.

Posted by: 13times at May 09, 2025 01:28 PM (WDRj6)

208 Posted by: tubal at May 09, 2025 01:26 PM (PCK5/)

Ok. I thought you were suggesting that character might be that of nutcase Amy Bishop.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2025 01:29 PM (kjWDa)

209 Sotomeyer, if she wasn't a morally corrupt piece of shit, should be recused from every case involving Trump.

Instead, just like all the lefties on the Court, they can spout off openly antagonistic spittle toward Trump at rabidly partisan lefty gatherings and we're supposed to pretend they'll be fair on the bench.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 09, 2025 01:29 PM (sMW+k)

210 "Yes, it's always a good idea to get rid of your best jurist."

Not only is it unknown who succeeds Trump and has the nominative power, it is also unknown who will control the Senate any given election - like 2026.

Thomas (and Alito) should be onboard with resigning if the mid-terms don't turn out well and the vote has to be rushed through before the new Senate is seated.

Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at May 09, 2025 01:29 PM (VXSVh)

211 158 Clubs like tire irons are the missing part of the equation.
If on the ground conservatives employed more clubs for these elected officials they wouldn't be so eager for the cocktail set and more amenable to those who voted them into office.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 09, 2025 01:19 PM (sB5dv)

That's fine, but at some point you have to stop just talking about visiting violence on people who won't get with the agenda and actually do something, or stop wondering why they're not even remotely afraid of you.

Posted by: XTC at May 09, 2025 01:29 PM (UnA8+)

212 208 Posted by: tubal at May 09, 2025 01:26 PM (PCK5/)

Ok. I thought you were suggesting that character might be that of nutcase Amy Bishop.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2025 01:29 PM (kjWDa)

Ah.. no, not at all..

Posted by: tubal at May 09, 2025 01:29 PM (PCK5/)

213 The problem is lawyers are required to write laws. It was a racket from the start.
Posted by: ...
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That is the one bright spot in AI--it suddenly makes appropriations and laws instantly readable for the masses. I can actually see a professional AI trained on US code and regulations being useful for regular people to decipher legal speak.

Posted by: whig at May 09, 2025 01:30 PM (ctrM5)

214 The problem with lawyers is that its literally their job to interpret the law to their client's benefit. I mean its not stated that way, but that's what it ends up as. And you can argue ANYTHING if you are clever enough. That's how we got Roe v Wade's inventing the "right" to murder helpless innocent babies. That's how we got the government's "right" to seize property it thinks will be better used by a business than a private citizen. That's how we got the "right" for two dudes to pretend they are married.

And I think that if you take that to heart and do it too much you start to lose any objective understanding of truth and the law. So yeah, judges are gonna lean more and more "progressive" in their careers, more often than not.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2025 01:30 PM (2VST1)

215 157 One liberal article I read about Souter called him "a lifelong bachelor". I wondered why they felt the need to point that out.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 09, 2025 12:49 PM (s8j++)

usually code for Gay back in the day
Posted by: Oldcat

Hey, I'm a lifelong bachelor!
Posted by: Lin at May 09, 2025 01:23 PM (Dv3i1)

So am I, but they don't write about me in the society pages.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 09, 2025 01:30 PM (8avO+)

216 Amy Bishop >>> Amy Barrett

Posted by: ... at May 09, 2025 01:31 PM (gt60b)

217 What is even the mechanism for forcing out a SCOTUS judge other than impeachment?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 09, 2025 01:19 PM (GBKbO)

——-

Pillow

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 09, 2025 01:31 PM (LHqaF)

218 Come on, people.
It's David Hackett Souter.
Say it: David Hackett Souter.
If the ladies are worthy of three names, then so are the men.

David Hackett Souter.
David Hackett Souter.

Posted by: EVERY TIME at May 09, 2025 01:31 PM (LAUxe)

219 I mean, this is what you posted , tubal:

You want Amy Wax… you’ll get DOCTOR!!! Amy Bishop….

Didn't sound like an endorsement of Amy Wax.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2025 01:31 PM (kjWDa)

220 And what is that a reference to anyway

Elric is the maim character in a series of fantasy novels about a warrior wizard who has an incredibly powerful sword called "Stormbringer." That is probably the blade.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2025 01:32 PM (2VST1)

221 Sotomeyer, if she wasn't a morally corrupt piece of shit, should be recused from every case involving Trump.
---------

And especially if she was.

Posted by: ... at May 09, 2025 01:32 PM (gt60b)

222
Yeah, not every guy who doesn't marry in a long life is queer (I'm single for example) but it is generally not a promising sign, especially in someone who is successful and famous. I'm single because I am broke and have poor health, but Souter? Being busy isn't really a good explanation.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2025 01:25 PM (2VST1)

Same here, but I'm just a random asshole-on-the-street. It doesn't matter what I think or do. But someone that high in the political hierarchy should have more substantial roots. No guarantees though, most of the Donk commie cocksuckers in Congress have spouses and kids. But it nudges up the percentages.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 09, 2025 01:32 PM (y9nCu)

223 Not only is it unknown who succeeds Trump and has the nominative power, it is also unknown who will control the Senate any given election - like 2026.

Thomas (and Alito) should be onboard with resigning if the mid-terms don't turn out well and the vote has to be rushed through before the new Senate is seated.
Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at May 09, 2025 01:29 PM (VXSVh)

I'd suggest winning the damn midterms instead. GOPe are less able to sabotage us, and hopefully we are working on the voter rolls in key states.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 09, 2025 01:33 PM (8avO+)

224 Marriage can be painful but it forces growth and maturity.

Sometimes it's just painful. Growth and maturity, not so much, especially when you can punch out any time you want and (usually if you're the woman) get rewarded in cash, prizes, and custody.

Posted by: Marriage isn't the driving factor, it's the people both not being shitty at May 09, 2025 01:33 PM (TbWk/)

225 Wasn't the whole point of the federalist society to be a conservative vetting against types like souter?

Posted by: Former mass resident at May 09, 2025 01:33 PM (8gp6r)

226 David Hack Souter

Posted by: Bulg at May 09, 2025 01:33 PM (77rzZ)

227 His main legacy is that he was the swing vote to let the government take your property via eminent domain in order to give it to someone who would pay more property tax.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 09, 2025 01:33 PM (lTGtQ)

228 Didn't sound like an endorsement of Amy Wax.

The generally accepted form of the "You want..." meme is

You want ( a good thing )
You'll settle for ( a less good thing )
You'll get ( a bad thing )

Posted by: Oddbob at May 09, 2025 01:33 PM (/y8xj)

229 If you're a male with status and wealth and remain unmarried there's likely something deeper at work.

Who knows, maybe he was deeply religi... Wait, nevermind.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie -Women, you're pretty in feminine dresses and men like seeing you dressed up at May 09, 2025 01:34 PM (yZCmg)

230 "Oh, I guess I'm bisexual" she would casually explain.

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Or buysexual.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 09, 2025 01:34 PM (b/BT0)

231 or as the emeny might say, "no brag, just fact."

Posted by: Deplorable Minion at May 09, 2025 01:34 PM (QSrLX)

232 219 I mean, this is what you posted , tubal:

You want Amy Wax… you’ll get DOCTOR!!! Amy Bishop….

Didn't sound like an endorsement of Amy Wax.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2025 01:31 PM (kjWDa)

I was implying ( poorly, it seems) that often what we WISH for in fact turrns out to be not what we get… anoblique reference to Amy Coney Barrett as perhaps not being exactly what some wished for….

Posted by: tubal at May 09, 2025 01:34 PM (PCK5/)

233 What is even the mechanism for forcing out a SCOTUS judge other than impeachment?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 09, 2025 01:19 PM (GBKbO)

A box of donuts and hiding the insulin pens would take down Sotomayor.

Probably, Thomas, too.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 09, 2025 01:34 PM (l3YAf)

234 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2025 01:32 PM (2VST1

Is this one of your novels or "just "one you've read?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2025 01:34 PM (kjWDa)

235 The Government is Always Right. That was his only consistent judicial "philosophy."

Total piece of shit.
Posted by: Tom Servo
_____

I'm hoping there is a judge still left whose philosophy is 'the Government is always wrong', with the only exception being if it is allowed in the written version of the Constitution (no penumbras etc.), but viewed suspiciously and kept on a short leash.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 09, 2025 01:34 PM (Dv3i1)

236 Or buysexual.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 09, 2025 01:34 PM (b/BT0)

I'm buysexual. Only way I'm getting laid is if I pay for it.

Posted by: Good joke. Roll on snare. Curtain. at May 09, 2025 01:35 PM (TbWk/)

237 "Oh, I guess I'm bisexual" she would casually explain.

"Nobody's perfect"
--Jack Lemmon in Some Like It Hot

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2025 01:35 PM (2VST1)

238
What Do They Call "Alligator Clips" In Australia/New Zealand?

hint: No, not "Royale with cheese."

Posted by: Soothsayer and five yamulkas walk into a bar at May 09, 2025 01:35 PM (RgrFf)

239 Posted by: tubal at May 09, 2025 01:34 PM (PCK5/)

O.K Thanks for the explanation.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2025 01:35 PM (kjWDa)

240 I posit you’re mostly correct about The Federalist Society. They have been useless, with their most recent contribution the liberal ACB. What makes it even more malodorous, is that liberals have decided to go with hard core ideologues. People barely have a fig leaf of being qualified like their last pick whose opinions read like a high school term paper with a lot of the same typos and illogic. But they don’t care. Like with elections it’s all about having that vote to push their policies. They don’t care if it’s dead people, illegal aliens or in this case, unabashed stupid. They are determined to destroy the courts as blind, honest, truthful mitigators and turn them into liberal weapons to be used against justice and the people. It’s what we are now watching happen every single day.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 09, 2025 01:35 PM (eGA1f)

241 JD Vance when asked if America will get involved in India vs Pakistan

It's fundamentally none of our business...

But it's fundamentally all of ours!

Posted by: The Military, Industrial, and Intelligence Complex at May 09, 2025 01:35 PM (wrInX)

242 "keep to himself". another lie

Posted by: Deplorable Minion at May 09, 2025 01:36 PM (QSrLX)

243 Is this one of your novels or "just "one you've read?

Nobody names themselves after anyone in any of my books. Its from a popular series by Michael Moorcock.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2025 01:36 PM (2VST1)

244 220 And what is that a reference to anyway

Elric is the maim character in a series of fantasy novels about a warrior wizard who has an incredibly powerful sword called "Stormbringer." That is probably the blade.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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You left out the fact that the storm takes souls from people permanently. Michael Moorcock is a gloomy bastard that was always whinging about how his work should be considered on the same level or superior than Tolkien.

By post modern standards, Moorcock has a point about how the modern world is obsessed with brutally flawed and somewhat evil protagonists.
Moorcock did capture that well in Elric series but the whole series is too dreary to read again. Once was enough.

Posted by: whig at May 09, 2025 01:36 PM (ctrM5)

245
Souter Rooter

That's the name

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 09, 2025 01:36 PM (ES1Rb)

246 "Nobody's perfect"
--Jack Lemmon in Some Like It Hot
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

That was Joe E. Brown.

Posted by: Bulg at May 09, 2025 01:36 PM (77rzZ)

247 I'd put down good money that Thomas is retiring, unless the senate is lost. The rumor mill - which has been widely credited - is that he's wanted to for a good while. He apparently wants to RV and what not. Lovable bastard actually wants to lead a normal life rather than die in office.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 09, 2025 01:36 PM (UGyV5)

248 And what is that a reference to anyway

Elric is the maim character in a series of fantasy novels about a warrior wizard who has an incredibly powerful sword called "Stormbringer." That is probably the blade.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2025 01:32 PM (2VST1)

I don't remember the name of the series but there's one where a female heroine has a sword with a black hole like vortex at the end. She's moving through these interplanetary portals and the drawn sword destroys the portal as she goes through it.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 09, 2025 01:36 PM (8avO+)

249 What Do They Call "Alligator Clips" In Australia/New Zealand?

Oy, that's a Sprongo Bongo, mate!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2025 01:36 PM (2VST1)

250 Its from a popular series by Michael Moorcock.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2025 01:36 PM (2VST1)

Heh heh. Moorcock. Heh heh heh.

Posted by: Butthead at May 09, 2025 01:36 PM (TbWk/)

251 Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 09, 2025 01:31 PM (LHqaF)

LMAO talk about a grand slam off a tee.

Posted by: ... at May 09, 2025 01:37 PM (gt60b)

252 203 JD Vance when asked if America will get involved in India vs Pakistan

It's fundamentally none of our business...

THIS IS THE WAY.
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 09, 2025 01:24 PM (QAkQ3)

-----------------------------------------

His wife is Indian, and yet even he can see this situation as a mess USA can get absolutely nothing out of.

America First. So simple, anyone can do it. Unless you're a Democrat. Or a Republican.

Posted by: Donald J Trump, 3X POTUS at May 09, 2025 01:37 PM (uxQCS)

253 >> The problem with lawyers is that they are stealing my air.

FIFY

Posted by: Marcus T at May 09, 2025 01:37 PM (eGA1f)

254 Moorcock… The Dancers at the End of Time… really enjoyed that book.

Posted by: tubal at May 09, 2025 01:37 PM (PCK5/)

255 I’m usually an optimistic sort, but I’m convinced there’s no way the GOP keeps the house at midterms. They’re openly throwing it already. Ain’t gonna happen. Trump will be impeached for the 3rd time in 2027… it won’t matter; won’t go anywhere other than acquittal in the senate. Trump’s polls will probably go up; Dems are stupid sometimes

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 09, 2025 01:37 PM (i5Vkf)

256 We all know who really runs things in South Asia. That bastard the King of Bhutan.

Posted by: Bulg at May 09, 2025 01:38 PM (77rzZ)

257 That was Joe E. Brown.

Yeah you're right. I can't remember Lemmon's last line, probably something like "I'm a man!"

Moorcock is a gloomy bastard that was always whinging about how his work should be considered on the same level or superior than Tolkien.

Yeah he's a fool there. I really like his books but he does not compare to the professor. Thankfully Michael has been very, very careful about adaptations of his work and has not allowed Hollywood to butcher them

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2025 01:38 PM (2VST1)

258 no, thats more about the lowered standards that we accept
I do recall there was one commentator, that noted some of the red flags on Amy Barrett (not the ones that the left was laser focused on, as she was not of the Body) but her deference to state power,

Posted by: miguel cervantes at May 09, 2025 01:38 PM (bXbFr)

259
Think logically.

Hint: Are alligators native to New Zealand/Australia?

Posted by: Soothsayer and five yamulkas walk into a bar at May 09, 2025 01:39 PM (RgrFf)

260 Who we're going to replace with whom ever kicks off next that we really have no idea just doesn't rank high on the list of imperatives.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 09, 2025 01:39 PM (sB5dv)

261 I've read some of the Elric stuff, and actually bought a couple of books that collect the old stuff. It's a staple that I feel like I should read as a D&Der. But I have not enjoyed what I have read. He's a whiny little bitch, like Lestat.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 09, 2025 01:39 PM (UGyV5)

262 If Trump gets the opportunity to appoint another SCOTUS judge, I hope (instead of the Federalist Society) he simply has dinner with Sam Alito and Clarence Thomas and asks their opinion.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 09, 2025 01:39 PM (tzQxk)

263 240 What makes it even more malodorous, is that liberals have decided to go with hard core ideologues. People barely have a fig leaf of being qualified like their last pick whose opinions read like a high school term paper with a lot of the same typos and illogic. But they don’t care. Like with elections it’s all about having that vote to push their policies. They don’t care if it’s dead people, illegal aliens or in this case, unabashed stupid. They are determined to destroy the courts as blind, honest, truthful mitigators and turn them into liberal weapons to be used against justice and the people. It’s what we are now watching happen every single day.
Posted by: Marcus T
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Marxist legal analysis masquerading under critical legal studies makes it much simpler for the dunces in judge's robes and the advocates for it. All you need to do is determine who is the oppressed and who is the oppressor. Oppressed always win regardless of the facts, law, or even arguments.

Law for dunces is what it is reducing law to exercises only in power. That is why 92.3 percent of injunctions against Trump come from Dem appointed judges.

Posted by: whig at May 09, 2025 01:39 PM (ctrM5)

264 I have a Judge Souter story. I used to be one of his neighbors up above Concord, NH. The entire neighborhood was the kind of people you'd expect to find in the "Live Free or Die" state at the time. Hardcore "leave us alone" conservatives.

So, when Souter would go off on his little leftist paths and disappoint my neighbors, they would respond in kind. Most owned animals, and one owned a horse farm. They would calmly ride down the road and circle the neighborhood before coming to a halt just at the end of Sourter's driveway. Then they would hang around until the horses did what horses do best. That would be cover the street with "road apples".

You could always tell when Souter disappointed the conservatives. His driveway would have a massive mound of horseshit right at his mailbox. Of course, he wasn't home at the time, but it was symbolic.

Posted by: Orson at May 09, 2025 01:39 PM (dIske)

265 236 I'm buysexual. Only way I'm getting laid is if I pay for it.
Posted by: Good joke. Roll on snare. Curtain. at May 09, 2025 01:35 PM (TbWk/)

Boy George once said that in an interview.

Still want to claim it?

Posted by: XTC at May 09, 2025 01:39 PM (UnA8+)

266 Wasn't the whole point of the federalist society to be a conservative vetting against types like souter?
Posted by: Former mass resident at May 09, 2025 01:33 PM (8gp6r)

It is a rare organization that keeps its mission for more than 20 years, say. So rare you might as well assume there aren't any.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 09, 2025 01:39 PM (8avO+)

267 I'm buysexual.

-

That's fantastic. Also stolen.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie -Women, you're pretty in feminine dresses and men like seeing you dressed up at May 09, 2025 01:40 PM (yZCmg)

268
His main legacy is that he was the swing vote to let the government take your property via eminent domain in order to give it to someone who would pay more property tax.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 09, 2025 01:33 PM (lTGtQ)

And then change their minds about developing the land, which to this day sits abandoned and vacant and is currently a dumping ground for storm debris. And more importantly, doesn't earn a single dollar in tax revenue.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 09, 2025 01:40 PM (y9nCu)

269 I don't remember the name of the series but there's one where a female heroine has a sword with a black hole like vortex at the end. She's moving through these interplanetary portals and the drawn sword destroys the portal as she goes through it.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 09, 2025 01:36 PM (8avO+)
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I've read that one!

The Morgaine Saga by C.J. Cherryh

It's almost as gloomy as Moorcock's epic...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 09, 2025 01:40 PM (7fElN)

270 He's a whiny little bitch, like Lestat.

He has more reason to be though (although I think you mean Lestat's buddy the reluctant priest Vampire Nicolas de Lenfent I think?)

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2025 01:40 PM (2VST1)

271 Overruling Chevron is like changing your shirt in response to shitting your pants.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 09, 2025 01:21 PM (UGyV5)

Deck chairs. Titanic. Some assembly required.

SCOTUS isn’t going to suddenly declare large swaths of the regulatory state illegal. If anything, they’re going to block Trump’s reforms.

The whole original Chevron case was a commie judge and his dirtball hippie friends going after an oil company and the Reagan EPA saying “Nope.” At the time, SCOTUS sided with Reagan. Now SCOTUS says that’s wrong and district courts get to define what is or is not pollution, among other things.

I also don’t get why Trump needs to reference Loper. Couldn’t the President always rollback regs? Loper doesn’t give the President new deregulation powers, afaict. It just gives courts free hand to issue injunctions stopping Trump.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 09, 2025 01:40 PM (l3YAf)

272 Think logically.

Hint: Are alligators native to New Zealand/Australia?
Posted by: Soothsayer and five yamulkas walk into a bar at May 09, 2025 01:39 PM (RgrFf)

They Call em crocs or something?

Posted by: Oldcat at May 09, 2025 01:41 PM (8avO+)

273 272 Think logically.

Hint: Are alligators native to New Zealand/Australia?
Posted by: Soothsayer and five yamulkas walk into a bar at May 09, 2025 01:39 PM (RgrFf)

They Call em crocs or something?
Posted by: Oldcat at May 09, 2025 01:41 PM (8avO+)

Ask garrett….

Posted by: tubal at May 09, 2025 01:42 PM (PCK5/)

274 Moorcock: The Sandra Fluke Story

Posted by: ... at May 09, 2025 01:42 PM (gt60b)

275 Remember being told how fiercely, dangerously "conservative" judicial nominees like John Roberts, Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barret were?

Now we know that John Roberts met secretly with the Trump-hating lawfare leftist Norm Eisen in a diplomatic compound in Czech Republic. We don't know what the two discussed over that week-long meeting, and we likely never will. Was this an illegal ex parte communication? Probably.

We also know that John Roberts is responsible for giving us the corrupt Judge Boasberg on the FISA court, and that Roberts will defend Boasberg's every action at the drop of a hat.

Are Kavanaugh and Coney Barrett true conservatives? Utterly laughable.

Much like the discovery of the "Journ-O-list," there is massive behind-the-scenes collusion among the anti-Trump judiciary. If we knew how rigged and corrupt our courts had become, we'd be in very dangerous territory.

Posted by: Sam Adams at May 09, 2025 01:42 PM (X+xvk)

276 I also don’t get why Trump needs to reference Loper. Couldn’t the President always rollback regs? Loper doesn’t give the President new deregulation powers, afaict. It just gives courts free hand to issue injunctions stopping Trump.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 09, 2025 01:40 PM (l3YAf)

They don't need laws. I doubt the constitution has clauses about turning planes around in midair.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 09, 2025 01:43 PM (8avO+)

277 261 I've read some of the Elric stuff, and actually bought a couple of books that collect the old stuff. It's a staple that I feel like I should read as a D&Der. But I have not enjoyed what I have read. He's a whiny little bitch, like Lestat.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls

As far as dystopia, I prefer Jack Vance. His morbid humor in the Dying Earth series gives it a kick that reading Moorcock doesn't. Plus Vance's Dying Earth series was used in part to figure out the magical system in D&D.

Fritz Leiber's Fahfrd and the Gray Mouser series was another key building block for D&D. Thieves were always kind of fun to play.

Posted by: whig at May 09, 2025 01:43 PM (ctrM5)

278 do recall there was one commentator, that noted some of the red flags on Amy Barrett (not the ones that the left was laser focused on, as she was not of the Body) but her deference to state power,
Posted by: miguel cervantes at May 09, 2025 01:38 PM (bXbFr)

This is a bit of a blind spot for even "real" conservatives.

Posted by: Selective circumspection at May 09, 2025 01:43 PM (TbWk/)

279 Chevron led to the growth of the administrative state, but reversing it isn’t going to undo or reverse the admin state.

It’s like, my house caught on fire because I let someone smoke cigars. Putting up a No Smoking sign 40 years later because it was a bad idea to allow people to smoke inside doesn’t un-burn my house.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 09, 2025 01:43 PM (l3YAf)

280 To me Elric is like a clinic in writing a flawed hero, someone incredibly powerful with great weaknesses that make him relatable and someone you can challenge. And Stormbringer is one of the most interesting an unique characters in fiction (yes, the sword is a character, its sentient and has its own goals and desires).

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2025 01:44 PM (2VST1)

281 You are very unlikely to encounter any conservative - student or faculty - at a law school. At my law school, I was really the only conservative person I knew. When the pool of participants is almost zero, the membership of the club doesn't necessarily reflect a pool of "conservatives" as much as it reflects a pool of "people who are not as extreme as some of the other liberal students."

Law school is where all of this starts (actually it starts in elementary school, but law school is the gateway to the legal profession). In 1L Contracts Law, from the very beginning we had a lot of discussion about "critical legal theory" - basically legalistic socialism. We were encouraged to view contracts through a lens of what was the "fair" outcome based on the professor's views of structural inequities in the development of the law. This was the approach in all classes, clubs, clinics,... everything.

Complaining that the Federalist society only picks liberal judges misses that this is virtually all there is to pick from. A long march must retake law schools to correct this problem.
Posted by: DPICM at May 09, 2025 01

Just wanted to emphasize this comment.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at May 09, 2025 01:44 PM (PcTds)

282 Moorcock: The Sandra Fluke Story
Posted by: ...

"The Moorcock of Venice" was Shakespeare's original working title for "Othello."

Posted by: Bulg at May 09, 2025 01:44 PM (77rzZ)

283
They Call em crocs or something?
Posted by: Oldcat

Yeah. That's it.

Alligator Clips are called Crocodile Clips in NZ/Aus, on account they don't have alligators. Simple!

Posted by: Soothsayer and five yamulkas walk into a bar at May 09, 2025 01:44 PM (RXcF8)

284 Couldn’t the President always rollback regs?

Heh. Um, I mean, yeah sure.

Posted by: Random Hawaiian Traffic Court Judge at May 09, 2025 01:44 PM (/y8xj)

285 What does seem of more timely importance is those two nuclear powers (fallout is really overblown) becoming increasingly intransigent. Not to mention the increasing probability that Pawkeestain make be split into three different countries.

The Balochs are attacking the Pakis big time and there is another segment within rattling sabers. The Pakis lit a fuse to a bomb they weren't ready for. They have no friends except the CIA. jajajajajaj

Who gets the nukes?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 09, 2025 01:44 PM (sB5dv)

286 184 JD Vance when asked if America will get involved in India vs Pakistan

It's ~~fundamentally~~ none of our business...

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 09, 2025 01:24 PM (QAkQ3)
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It's none of our business at any level.

Posted by: Ciampino - Padayachi vs Naidu at May 09, 2025 01:44 PM (sPQoU)

287 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2025 01:36 PM (2VST1)

Thanks. The only fantasy novels I have read was a horrible one " Mirror of her dreams " ( part of a series ) or something like that which I loathed so much I threw in the trash, Terry Pratchett and LOTR - Pratchett and Tolkien I quite liked . I thought I might try C.S Lewis fantasy novels . Perhaps I should try yours. I just hesitate to own anymore books however.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2025 01:44 PM (kjWDa)

288 265 236 I'm buysexual. Only way I'm getting laid is if I pay for it.
Posted by: Good joke. Roll on snare. Curtain. at May 09, 2025 01:35 PM (TbWk/)

Boy George once said that in an interview.

Still want to claim it?
Posted by: XTC at May 09, 2025 01:39 PM (UnA8+)

Truth is truth.

Posted by: Can't run from the facts at May 09, 2025 01:45 PM (TbWk/)

289
Obvious Things That Are Not Obvious!

Why?
Because we can't see the forest through the trees.

Posted by: Soothsayer and five yamulkas walk into a bar at May 09, 2025 01:45 PM (RXcF8)

290 >> Law for dunces is what it is reducing law to exercises only in power. That is why 92.3 percent of injunctions against Trump come from Dem appointed judges.
Posted by: whig at May 09, 2025 01:39 PM (ctrM5)

And the only way we will wrest that back is by being forceful and ugly. I’ve grown a bit tired of the executive and Congress for that matter, ceding our power to the courts whose constitutional role is clearly defined as being close to zero. I think the tact to play this game on their field, by their rules to try and beat them at their game is a failure. They need to be clubbed like baby seals and put in their place lest we lose that power permanently and end up in a situation where the only remedy is the least ideal and most forceful. On that regard, I don’t like the game Trump’s lawyers are playing with OUR power. Whether it’s because should we ignore them they will try to impeach him again, or they’re gonna shoot his dog, I don’t care. It’s time to go medieval on the courts and put them back in place.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 09, 2025 01:45 PM (eGA1f)

291 Complaining that the Federalist society only picks liberal judges misses that this is virtually all there is to pick from. A long march must retake law schools to correct this problem.
Posted by: DPICM at May 09, 2025 01

Just wanted to emphasize this comment.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at May 09, 2025 01:44 PM (PcTds)

So don't pick from judges. It isn't a requirement. In fact its likely an anti requirement.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 09, 2025 01:45 PM (8avO+)

292 As far as dystopia, I prefer Jack Vance. His morbid humor in the Dying Earth series gives it a kick that reading Moorcock doesn't.

I tried to like Jack Vance and couldn't get into it. Everything seemed so pointless and meaningless. Elric's life eventually ended up that way, but the stories had reasonable and relatable goals and interest.

I love the Fafhrd and Gray Mouser books, re-reading them right now for the umpteenth time. A classic although Fritz Lieber's perversions get a bit too much to take by the end.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2025 01:45 PM (2VST1)

293 A lot of people sleep with a pillow on their face.

Posted by: ... at May 09, 2025 01:46 PM (gt60b)

294 I might try C.S Lewis fantasy novels

I very highly recommend the Narnia books. I cannot recommend them enough.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2025 01:46 PM (2VST1)

295 Celebate?
Posted by: Boss Moss

tiny.cc/fj9j001

Posted by: Sock Monkey * poorly trained emotional support moron at May 09, 2025 01:46 PM (Uzn0I)

296 The name's Moorcock. Craven Moorcock.

Posted by: Craven Moorcock at May 09, 2025 01:46 PM (paSBy)

297 usually code for Gay back in the day
Posted by: Oldcat

Hey, I'm a lifelong bachelor!
Posted by: Lin at May 09, 2025 01:23 PM (Dv3i1)

So am I, but they don't write about me in the society pages.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 09, 2025 01:30 PM (8avO+)

My mom always used "confirmed bachelor".

Posted by: mishdog at May 09, 2025 01:47 PM (Lv3q+)

298
Drain Snakes?

What do they call Drain Snakes in Ireland?

(I don't know the answer to this)

Posted by: Soothsayer and five yamulkas walk into a bar at May 09, 2025 01:47 PM (RXcF8)

299 A lot of people sleep with a pillow on their face.
Posted by: ...

And do other things as well.
-- David Hogg

Posted by: Bulg at May 09, 2025 01:47 PM (77rzZ)

300
They don't have snakes in Ireland, yes?

Posted by: Soothsayer and five yamulkas walk into a bar at May 09, 2025 01:47 PM (RXcF8)

301 new thread up

Posted by: Ann at May 09, 2025 01:47 PM (4neFu)

302 Posted by: Orson at May 09, 2025 01:39 PM (dIske)

That's an amusing story. Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2025 01:47 PM (kjWDa)

303
reflects a pool of "people who are not as extreme as some of the other liberal students."

You mean, the ones who want to put you in work camps first, rather than just lining up conservatives against the nearest wall?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 09, 2025 01:47 PM (y9nCu)

304 He apparently wants to RV and what not. Lovable bastard actually wants to lead a normal life rather than die in office.

That's just crazy talk.

Posted by: Nancy The Cryptkeeper Pelosi at May 09, 2025 01:47 PM (s8j++)

305 Nood, by the way.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 09, 2025 01:48 PM (yvnLa)

306 New study uncovers reason for nearly every alligator attack on humans

[They're tasty?]

🤣 Or alternatively, they're hungry

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at May 09, 2025 01:48 PM (PcTds)

307 The pizza is in the oven.

Posted by: Don Black. Message: look for the white whale at May 09, 2025 01:48 PM (AOsQT)

308 It's none of our business at any level.

I'm open to arguments that we (the US) have a, um, "hygienic" interest in preventing widespread nuclear war.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 09, 2025 01:49 PM (/y8xj)

309 My mom always used "confirmed bachelor".
Posted by: mishdog

Doesn't always mean gay, though. Henry Higgins describes himself that way in Pygamalion and My Fair Lady.
Just means he didn't want a woman getting in the way of his intellectual pursuits.

Posted by: Bulg at May 09, 2025 01:49 PM (77rzZ)

310 Woulda been fun to watch Bork as a SCOTUS associate. He was kind of a hard-ass.

Posted by: Don Black. Message: look for the white whale at May 09, 2025 01:49 PM (AOsQT)

311 293 A lot of people sleep with a pillow on their face.

Posted by: ...

And we're all supposed to pretend that Scalia wasn't murdered. Zero questions from the Kneepad Press.

Posted by: Sam Adams at May 09, 2025 01:50 PM (X+xvk)

312 I've read Vance's Dying Earth stuff. I really like the original short stories, and more or less hate the novels, the two Don Quixote style ones in particular.

I've read some of the Lieber's Llankhmar (sp?) stuff. I like it. I need to go back and read the rest.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 09, 2025 01:50 PM (UGyV5)

313 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2025 01:46 PM (2VST1)

Oh, yes. I've read and re-read all the Narnia Books. I was thinking of "Till we have faces" and some of his other novels, but I guess they're science fiction, not fantasy.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2025 01:50 PM (kjWDa)

314 286 184 JD Vance when asked if America will get involved in India vs Pakistan
It's fundamentally none of our business...
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 09, 2025 01:24 PM (QAkQ3)
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It's none of our business at any level.
Posted by: Ciampino -
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Involvement is non of our business but you can be sure it's a matter of concern. How this plays out will have a demonstrable effect on our middle east relations.
The longer India continues to pound Pakistan the higher the probability of it breaking up into two or three different states.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 09, 2025 01:52 PM (sB5dv)

315 Whether it’s because should we ignore them they will try to impeach him again, or they’re gonna shoot his dog, I don’t care. It’s time to go medieval on the courts and put them back in place.
Posted by: Marcus T
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Political wars, just like shooting ones, require extensive preparation to do even what seems like simple things.

Crossing the Rubicon is not something to be taken lightly or in extremis. It requires cold sharp calculations over whether you can make it stick. If you can't (ie the people choose your rivals) then it is better not to have tried it all.

Sort of like funding a second best army or only having a non-lethal weapon. All those can do is get you hurt without being able to prevail in a life or death situation.

Posted by: whig at May 09, 2025 01:52 PM (ctrM5)

316 Coffee's ready. mmm

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 09, 2025 01:53 PM (sB5dv)

317 Amy Farrah Fowler > Amy Bishop >>>>> Amy Barrett

Posted by: wth at May 09, 2025 01:54 PM (v0R5T)

318 JD Vance when asked if America will get involved in India vs Pakistan

It's fundamentally none of our business

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The more I hear from Vance, the more I like him.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at May 09, 2025 01:58 PM (PcTds)

319 I tried to like Jack Vance and couldn't get into it. Everything seemed so pointless and meaningless. Elric's life eventually ended up that way, but the stories had reasonable and relatable goals and interest.

I love the Fafhrd and Gray Mouser books, re-reading them right now for the umpteenth time. A classic although Fritz Lieber's perversions get a bit too much to take by the end.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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That's the point of Vance--it is a collection of Shaggy Dog stories with no great overarching themes but a great study in human behavior of individuals if they could acquire magical powers.

Moorcock's casual dismissal of good and evil in Elric's world leaving only evil in his world diminishes it regardless of Elric's quest and character progress. Fans of pointless modernism where inevitably we all crash and fail might enjoy it but I didn't. Same as more modern tales like Less than Zero.

Back when I did death penalty research on hundreds of state cases, I read enough depressing facts of cases to figure out that the Bible was right and post modernism was certainly wrong about human behavior. Tolkien, for all his imaginary worlds, was more realistic.

Posted by: whig at May 09, 2025 01:59 PM (ctrM5)

320 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2025 01:36 PM (2VST1)

Thanks. The only fantasy novels I have read was a horrible one " Mirror of her dreams " ( part of a series ) or something like that which I loathed so much I threw in the trash, Terry Pratchett and LOTR - Pratchett and Tolkien I quite liked . I thought I might try C.S Lewis fantasy novels . Perhaps I should try yours. I just hesitate to own anymore books however.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2025 01:44 PM (kjWDa)

I did that too Fen. His main work was the Covenant Series where a bitter old Leper gets transferred into a world where he has to save the day but his 'survival' habits he has developed to live as a shunned leper make him reject helping. There are some wonderful bits of the Worldbuilding but everything else is degraded, failing and rotten. Yet in the end he saves the Land, and the reward that the Land's God gives him is just happiness in be alive. But it is soul draining to read, but impressive.

The sequel trilogy does not deliver anything worth having.

Covenant couldn't believe the magical Land was real.
The Mirror series had a 'hero' that supposedly didn't believe *she* was real. I agreed.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 09, 2025 02:00 PM (8avO+)

321 Crossing the Rubicon is not something to be taken lightly or in extremis. It requires cold sharp calculations over whether you can make it stick. If you can't (ie the people choose your rivals) then it is better not to have tried it all.

Posted by: whig at May 09, 2025 01:52 PM (ctrM5)

Yeah, Caesar just had part of one legion when he crossed the Rubicon. What they don't tell you was in a very short time almost all of his army in Gaul was with him and most of the North Italian garrison troops were surrendering or fleeing. Pompey had to hurry to flee to Greece.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 09, 2025 02:04 PM (8avO+)

322 I think Trump planned on lawfare. He's not personally frustrated with current legal events because he's already gamed it. He's playing the long game.

Because he's taken out so many it appears like a blitzkrieg, however he does a second wave planned out and it's the long game. We've got a good coach.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 09, 2025 02:10 PM (sB5dv)

323 Hind tit but good coffee.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 09, 2025 02:10 PM (sB5dv)

324
Moorcock's casual dismissal of good and evil in Elric's world leaving only evil in his world diminishes it regardless of Elric's quest and character progress. Fans of pointless modernism where inevitably we all crash and fail might enjoy it but I didn't. Same as more modern tales like Less than Zero.

Back when I did death penalty research on hundreds of state cases, I read enough depressing facts of cases to figure out that the Bible was right and post modernism was certainly wrong about human behavior. Tolkien, for all his imaginary worlds, was more realistic.

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I appreciate your take on post modernism. I find no joy in it, which maybe is the point...but what a miserable way to live. The enemy comes to deceive and destroy.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at May 09, 2025 02:16 PM (PcTds)

325 > 205 John Paul Stevens wrote the Kelo v New London decision. Souter concurred.

Yep. Souter didn't write it, but he did deliver the fifth vote.

I LMFAO when there was an attempt to seize Souter's own "swingin' bachelor pad" under that same doctrine. Too bad it didn't work out.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 09, 2025 02:22 PM (W5ArC)

326 > 310 Woulda been fun to watch Bork as a SCOTUS associate. He was kind of a hard-ass.
Posted by: Don Black. Message: look for the white whale at May 09, 2025 01:49 PM (AOsQT)

Downside: would have needed Jim Henson and Frank Oz on retainer to translate his opinions.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 09, 2025 02:25 PM (W5ArC)

327 I would have loaned him a coin to give to Charon to get across the River Styx.

Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at May 09, 2025 02:34 PM (tykPk)

328 I don't know whether the Federalist Society is actively recommending moderates, but I would say that they've been around for over 40 years.
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So ... long enough for the Reds to infect it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 09, 2025 03:45 PM (YqDXo)

329 The Federalist Society address.

1776 I Street, NW Suite 300
Washington, DC 20006

Nuff said.

Posted by: Levin at May 09, 2025 03:59 PM (P9+JS)

330 Ace, I think treachery I've been subjected to is a tell of a larger problem. A Marine falsely accused of Stolen Valor asks for help to clear his name and is told "no cares, go kill yourself". Do you think the people who would witness such a thing and do nothing deserve Loyalty? I don't.

Posted by: Fen at May 10, 2025 10:52 AM (ciYHQ)

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