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Saturday Evening Movie Thread - 5/17/2025

Godzilla, from the 80s On


About a year ago, I ran through the largest bulk of the Japanese Godzilla franchise: the Showa Era films. I promised myself I'd return to finish watching the rest, so I have now watched all of the Heisei, Millennium, and Reiwa Era Godzilla films.

And I have thoughts.

I mostly have thoughts about the nature of franchise filmmaking. Like most long-running franchises, the Godzilla franchise is a producer driven effort, individual films carrying marks of writers and directors but the overall movement of the franchise from entry to entry being more about producer whims than any other creative. The one franchise that Godzilla ended up reminding me most of was the Bond franchise, especially through some of the later entries where there were extremely obvious efforts to latch onto popular new trends in the action genre.

I was entertained. I was bored. I was frustrated. I was even touched a couple of times. But mostly, I was fascinated at a franchise searching for purpose.

Origins and Eras


The only film in the entire Godzilla franchise that feels like it was birthed from a creative person looking for something to say is the first film by Ishiro Honda (and cowritten by Takeo Murata). Firstly inspired by The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms, it was mostly a pro-nationalist look at the Japanese ethos in a nuclear world, a nuclear world where two nuclear bombs had been dropped on Japan. There's real existential dread contrasting with pro-Japanese bravado, especially around technical and scientific acumen, that comes from a very specific, individualized place. The second movie in the franchise, Godzilla Raids Again, turned the whole thing into a monster smashing fest, and the franchise never looked back in the Showa Era. It followed a steady progression towards sanding down the edges until it was an unabashedly children's franchise by the mid-70s when Toho Studios decided to put the whole franchise on ice for a time after Terror of Mechagodzilla.

Now, Terror of Mechagodzilla is considered the last of the Showa Era Godzilla films. The eras are largely determined based on the Japanese Imperial calendar (a common practice in Japanese culture), and the Showa Era refers to the reign of Emperor Showa (Hirohito) from 1926-1989. When Hirohito died, he was succeeded by Emperor Akihito for the Heisei Era from 1989-2019 which was then followed by the current Reiwa Era ruled by Emperor Naruhito. Notice, there is no Millennium Era in the Japanese Imperial calendar.

The division of the films doesn't quite fit with the actual eras either. The first Heisei Era film, The Return of Godzilla was released in 1984. The first Reiwa Era film, Shin Godzilla, was released in 2016. Plus, the Millennium Era is just made up (the films from 1999 to 2004, six of them in five years).

This is a semantic point that doesn't actually matter, but if Toho is going to be so cavalier with this stuff, I wish they'd call them Movements, rather than Eras. Because each Era really does feel cohesive unto itself in a certain way, and that is untied to the Imperial calendar. There's a progression from beginning to end (not always narrative) that makes them feel of a whole. Certain approaches to the filmmaking and storytelling. The Heisei Era is essentially an attempt at a ground up remake of the Showa Era with a darker tone. The Millennium Era is mostly isolated, disconnected entries uninterested in continuing canon (there is a two-parter there near the end), and it's the most obviously mimicking contemporary action trends. The Reiwa Era only has two live-action films (five total if you want to include the animated trilogy which...well, Toho does), and the trend so far seems to be an effort at realism in the Godzilla franchise.

Now, the obvious question is: Which is my favorite. It's not the question that interests me, though. Short answer for the record is that the Reiwa Era (minus the animated trilogy) is probably the best, but it's only two films, and my favorite single entry is the terribly titled Godzilla, Mothra, and King Ghidorah: Giant Monsters All-Out Attack.

What interested me was the producer-driven nature of the franchise.

Producers


From the Showa Era through the end of the Millennium Era, the Godzilla franchise had only two producers. The first was Tomoyuki Tanaka who produced everything from the original and, on his own, through The Return of Godzilla in 1984. From the next film until Godzilla vs. Destroyah in 1995, he coproduced with Shogo Tomiyama. Tanaka died in 1997, and Tomiyama took over sole producing duties for the Millennium Era from Godzilla 2000 until the end of the it with Godzilla: Final Wars. The Reiwa Era is handled by a producing team from Toho, the most prominent members seeming to be Kenji Yamada and Minami Ichikawa.

And that split makes everything clearer, how the different Eras actually have different voices. It's not about the individual filmmakers making the individual films. They're smaller cogs in a larger machine, a studio machine driven more by producers than directors or writers. Directors and writers will have their voices (I found Kazuki Omori's voice pretty distinctive in the four films he wrote, two of which he directed), but the drive of the franchise as a whole goes to the guy who's there every film.

The Showa Era was driven by Tanaka himself, so the progression from Honda film about the Japanese ethos to children's films over 20 years feels surprisingly cohesive. The Heisei Era was driven by the team of Tanaka and Tomiyama, and the combination of Showa Era's attempt to build a loosely connected cinematic universe with the darker edges of a newer time. The Millennium Era was driven by Tomiyama, giving into imitation and dark attempts at importance. The Reiwa Era is driven by that Toho producing team, and it shows a new era of trying to be grounded (probably in line with things like Nolan's approach to Batman and that whole realism in fantasy effort).

Analogy


Godzilla was birthed in importance, as previously noted, and so the franchise has a better argument than most to be taken seriously. Sure, by the time they introduced Godzilla's kid in the 60s, no one was taking it seriously, but there's always that original film with heavy meaning. So, when the franchise gets rebooted from time to time decades after it started, you're putting the franchise into the hands of people who probably want to take it seriously. The first Heisei Era film, The Return of Godzilla, was written by Shuichi Nagahara and directed by Koji Hashimoto, and I can find precious little information about them at all other than Hashimoto was an assistant director on several Showa Era Godzilla films like King Kong vs. Godzilla, so I can't dig into their motives for wanting to make The Return of Godzilla darker with a greater emphasis on the dangers of nuclear power (Godzilla's thing is to attack nuclear power plants in the film) or if they were just following Tanaka's orders. However, that desire to make Godzilla serious again was there, and it has largely remained ever since.

In the Showa Era, they made Godzilla a good guy after a certain point to help explain why he kept coming back movie after movie, also to deal with his rising popularity especially with children. In the ensuing periods, they've found other ways, mostly by taking an anthology approach since the start of the Millennium Era, which has allowed for a more serious approach to the material. Now, I don't know about you, but I don't go to Godzilla movies for dissertations on the positive and negative attributes of whatever issue comes up in the film (ecology comes up more than nuclear power after 1984) especially since they're never actually very good or interesting dissertations. The most common pattern is to have a dull first act with scientists talking about things in the most dull of terms, an hour of monster action destroying miniature buildings, and then a final thirty second wrap up to explain how it's all a metaphor for whatever is the subject at hand. It's just never that well integrated into the actual story of a giant monster smashing buildings with or without another monster or two in the picture.

Take my favorite Godzilla film, Godzilla, Mothra, and King Ghidorah.... There's one line near the middle of the film that gives Godzilla analogous meaning when a minor character says that the monster is the reanimated souls of the Japanese dead from WWII come to wreck vengeance upon modern day Japan for forgetting their sins. The rest of the movie doesn't touch on this at all, and the line would actually create better subtext for another Godzilla film (Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah where people time travel to WWII and a minor character gets killed by Godzilla while dealing with some kind of regret over WWII service), so what's it doing there? I dunno. Godzilla needs to mean something, I guess.

Destruction in Miniature


I have a long history of loving miniature work in film. At worst, it's adorable. At best, it's wonderfully convincing (think the bigiatures in The Lord of the Rings). In Godzilla films, they trend much more towards the adorable, though. I complained about it in my first post on Godzilla films, but they just filmed it all wrong. The camera's too high. When it moves, it moves too fast. They didn't use the right camera speeds (there's some very basic math to do to figure out how to scale it right). They didn't detail the miniatures enough. There's no life to the miniatures. In the abstract, I don't mind this. It's adorable.

But that's a horrible contrast to the serious tone the films are trying to take. "We are about serious things. Also, here's some funnily unconvincing miniature work to dominate an hour of the film." I don't think it kills any of the films. I simply end up choosing to enjoy the miniature smashing on its own terms without reference to the more serious efforts at thematic underpinnings, but that harsh contrast between intent and execution is really hard to miss.

It's interesting that Toho did finally managed to get the scale issue right, but it just took until 2016 with Shin Godzilla and the first major use of digital effects (some were used in Godzilla: Final Wars, but mostly around minor monsters). Embracing modern digital effects, the film finally puts Godzilla in what feels like a real place, getting lots of shots of city streets with people running around and Godzilla in his ever-changing form which helps tremendously with the film's overall attempt at realism. It's essentially a procedural (with heavy influences from Steven Soderbergh's Contagion) with a lot of time taken to look at government procedures (an early argument is about the charter that established the Japanese Self-Defense Forces). That ability to integrate the monster in what feels like the real world helps tremendously.

The Future


Godzilla is not going away any time soon, though it seems as though Toho has learned that it needs to actually exert some care over the franchise. The Millennium Era saw six movies released in five years. The Reiwa Era has seen two live action films in nine years. The most recent, Godzilla Minus One has not only been hailed as one of the best Godzilla films, but one of the best monster movies ever. It's an attempt to make Godzilla serious and imbue meaning in the story by focusing on characters in the wake of Japan's WWII loss, showing Japan finding a way to pick itself back up after utter defeat. It is easily the most serious-minded and successful at it since the first film.

And Toho hasn't rushed a sequel. They have rehired Takashi Yamazaki who wrote and directed (and produced the Oscar winning visual effects) to write and direct a follow-up (early word is calling it a direct sequel, though I think writing just began recently). The franchise is far from dead, and it might actually be at one of its strongest points in its history. And that Toho is taking care with the feature film effort, not as a cash grab but as an attempt to give die-hard fans what they want (serious, allegorical Godzilla), it seems like Godzilla's future is bright.

I just kind of prefer silly Godzilla personally.

Movies of Today

Opening in Theaters:

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Movies I Saw This Fortnight:

The Return of Godzilla (Rating 1.5/4) Full Review "Really, this movie is just kind of...boring. It plods. There are no real humans to fill the gaps between special effects. The special effects are pretty good, but I honestly expected better after a 10 year hiatus." [Max]

Godzilla vs. Biollante (Rating 2.5/4) Full Review "It's a fun overall package that just drags for that opening and becomes stupid in its final minutes. I was entertained in that special, Godzilla way for the bulk of the film." [Max]

Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla II (Rating 4/4) Full Review "It's one more instance where I kind of wish the franchise would go 100% kaiju with no human characters just once. It's not like anyone cares about the puny humans." [Library]

Godzilla vs. Spacegodzilla (Rating 3/4) Full Review "I mean, I'm still the smallest bit torn on the film, but the more I think about the great action setpieces and Yuki's character journey, the more I like it. It's not great art, but it has enough going for it for me to think that it's a good time at the movies." [Library]

Godzilla 2000 (Rating 2.5/4) Full Review "So, I admire the effort to turn the film in a new direction. I admire the actual effort to treat Godzilla seriously (though, again, I'm not opposed to silly Godzilla that much). I just found characters to be not that interesting, the humans to be largely a waste of space, and the fights often hard to actually see." [Library]

Godzilla, Mothra and King Ghidorah: Giant Monsters All-Out Attack (Rating 3.5/4) Full Review "The combination of things just worked for me. Incredibly well. It's pretty easily my favorite Godzilla film. I mean, it's not great cinema, but it's really good entertainment." [Library]

Shin Godzilla (Rating 3/4) Full Review "So, it's not great, but it is a very solid approach to the material, injecting new life in a franchise Toho had intentionally set aside for a decade." [Library]

Godzilla Minus One (Rating 3/4) Full Review "In terms of the human drama, it's the cream of the crop. In terms of the whole package, though, it's solidly good." [Library]

Contact

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My next post will be on 6/7, and it will be about the Paddington franchise.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at 07:45 PM




Comments

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1 It's the big ugly bug that can swim!

Posted by: fd at May 17, 2025 07:49 PM (vFG9F)

2 Mothra was a pimp.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 17, 2025 07:50 PM (vYDwg)

3 Good evening everyone

Posted by: Skip at May 17, 2025 07:51 PM (ypFCm)

4 2 Mothra was a pimp.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 17, 2025 07:50 PM (vYDwg)

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Since Mothra (Mosura!) Is a girl, wouldn't that make her a Madame who couldn't outfight Santino?

Posted by: TJM's phone at May 17, 2025 07:54 PM (GBKbO)

5 Monster Week on the Four 0'Clock Movie was a BFD when I was a kid. I'd race home from the bus stop and slide in front of the tv for some great Toho rubber monster action.

The earlier movies had gravitas (maybe save for Gadzookie, the Scrappy Doo of the monster world, but I loved him), but there's a place in my heart for the go-go grooviness of "Godzilla vs the Smog Monster", which I saw in the theater.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 17, 2025 07:58 PM (kpS4V)

6

I had a MASSIVE Movement this afternoon, so huge it qualified as an Era.

Seriously, how do you puke out this much verbal diarrhea? Entire empires have risen and fallen to less bullshit...

Posted by: Just Sayin... at May 17, 2025 07:59 PM (LzHn0)

7 There was an extended clip of the 2027 movie. I don't know who half of these monsters are.

https://youtu.be/iVlRpGgJC2M?si=9Grmna-yrbrBZ8kx

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 17, 2025 08:00 PM (lhenN)

8 I also saw the one on Monster Island. Remember the big cat-faced monster?

Godzilla movies on the big screen, with your fellow bratlings snarfing candy and running amuck in the aisles, is the only way to experience it in its fullness.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 17, 2025 08:01 PM (kpS4V)

9 Bravo TJM
I doubt seen many of these but do now get why Godzilla was a bad monster then sometimes is a good if bad monster.

Posted by: Skip at May 17, 2025 08:02 PM (ypFCm)

10 Still gotta see Godzilla Minus One. Had a very short run in the theater.

Posted by: Joe Kidd at May 17, 2025 08:02 PM (bA75n)

11 I remember the old Godzilla movies back when I was a kid in the 1970s. The toy tanks with firecracker flames spitting out of the muzzles of the guns was rather funny to me back then.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 17, 2025 08:03 PM (pJWtt)

12 are we going to talk about Bungie just totally stealing some girl's art for the upcoming "Marathon" game?
youtu.be/m7GFubCIBoU

Posted by: gKWVE at May 17, 2025 08:03 PM (gKWVE)

13 I have a very clear memory of begging my mom to stay up late one Saturday to watch Godzilla vs. Mothra on Creature Feature.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 17, 2025 08:04 PM (RIvkX)

14 Gamera was the best second character the Japs made.
Mothra maybe next.

Posted by: 85 Bears at May 17, 2025 08:05 PM (r2ymA)

15 Right now I'm watching an execrable TV movie I recorded off Comet about a YUGE meteor gonna hit da Erf, "Meteor". Lotta decent actors in a barfucious flick.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 17, 2025 08:05 PM (kpS4V)

16 Eris, I watched The Adventures of Adele Blanc-Sec on your suggestion. It was a pretty good movie for a graphic novel story.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 17, 2025 08:07 PM (D7oie)

17 Glad you enjoyed it, Kindltot. I loved the mummy doctor in bowler hat and starched collar.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 17, 2025 08:10 PM (kpS4V)

18 GOJIRA!

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at May 17, 2025 08:13 PM (rT96s)

19 For me, Destroy All Monsters was peak Godzilla...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at May 17, 2025 08:15 PM (bA75n)

20 I thought Biollante was an interesting monster, but incredibly ineffective. Which is odd, as the Japanese (so I am told) can do lots of things with tendrils and tentacles and such.

Kind of exhausted my Godzilla thoughts on TJM's blog. Which you should read, by the way.,

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 17, 2025 08:15 PM (CHHv1)

21 Doubt I watched a Godzilla movie in a long time, but as one could imagine me marveling over tje models

Posted by: Skip at May 17, 2025 08:16 PM (ypFCm)

22 I caught "Thunderbolts" this week (enjoyed it; a smaller MCU tale with thankfully no bloated CGI battle in the third act) and saw previews for another Predator movie and Fantastic 4.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 17, 2025 08:16 PM (kpS4V)

23 I am actually not a Godzilla fan.
I did enjoy Godzilla Minus 1

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at May 17, 2025 08:16 PM (rT96s)

24 Not Godzilla-related, but movie-related is the Navy SEALS vs. Iraqi jihadis movie that was released a couple of weeks ago: Warfare. This is a pretty taut little movie (run time about 90 minutes) about a fire-fight in 2006 Iraq. You're pretty much just dropped into the middle of these guys while they try to survive.

There's no musical score. The sound is dominated by gunfire and explosions. There is an IED explosion and when it happens, the theater shook.

One of the directors was involved in this fire-fight and he just wanted to tell their story. Pretty realistic, and while there is some blood and gore -- it's just business and not inflicted to be sadistic like some slasher movie.

Pretty much the entire movie is confined within a couple of rooms, a balcony and courtyard of a house, and the adjoining street.

This movie is definitely worth a viewing. In some ways, it reminded me of the 1946 movie, Battleground. In both movies you're limited to about a dozen soldiers and you almost never see the enemy, and you pretty much don't have a clue as to what is going on outside your group.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 17, 2025 08:19 PM (pJWtt)

25 Lotta decent actors in a barfucious flick.

History shows again and again how nature points out the folly of men.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 17, 2025 08:20 PM (ozkkf)

26 Omg. I love the Godzilla films. They are fun and wacky and entertaining. Everyrhing monster films should be.

And the low tech special effects are endearing.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 17, 2025 08:21 PM (mT+6a)

27 Godzilla ended up reminding me most of was the Bond franchise,

*Godzilla enters a casino in Monte Carlo, confidently strolls over to the Baccarat Table, pausing only to bathe the slot machine players in blistering, atomic flame*

*Gigan seated at the table looks up at Godzilla*

Godzilla: Is there room for one more at this table, Gigan?

Gigan: There's always room for another kanju, Mr...?

Godzilla: The name is Zilla. God Zilla.

...
...

Posted by: naturalfake at May 17, 2025 08:22 PM (iJfKG)

28 I am actually not a Godzilla fan.
I did enjoy Godzilla Minus 1
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at May 17, 2025 08:16 PM (rT96s)

Friend of mine raved about it. Likened it to how Jaws built up the tension with quick, partial shots of the monster early on, making the subsequent reveal all the more effective..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at May 17, 2025 08:23 PM (bA75n)

29
If someone was smart & talented, they'd make b&w Godzilla movie, but Hitchcock style.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 17, 2025 08:24 PM (RQ+eF)

30 Right now I'm watching an execrable TV movie I recorded off Comet about a YUGE meteor gonna hit da Erf, "Meteor". Lotta decent actors in a barfucious flick.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 17, 2025 08:05 PM (kpS4V)


I'm sure the money was green. Actors gotta eat, too.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 17, 2025 08:24 PM (pJWtt)

31 No Godzilla vs Destroyer (or Destoroyah)?

Biollante has been remastered in 4K. Underrated Godzilla movie, IMO.

The Gamera films followed a similar arc, from “serious” films where he’s a destructive force of nature, to films where he’s a good guy, to films where he’s literally a children’s pet. The second film in the Kaneko trilogy is awesome. The other two are good too.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at May 17, 2025 08:24 PM (aeiyZ)

32 I can't think of Godzilla without thinking of this from Arrested Development.
https://tinyurl.com/44cks2hh

Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 17, 2025 08:25 PM (3wi/L)

33 29
If someone was smart & talented, they'd make b&w Godzilla movie, but Hitchcock style.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 17, 2025 08:24 PM (RQ+eF)

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They did release a b&w version of Minus One.

I watched it on the Netflix.

Posted by: TJM's phone at May 17, 2025 08:25 PM (GBKbO)

34 31 No Godzilla vs Destroyer (or Destoroyah)?

Biollante has been remastered in 4K. Underrated Godzilla movie, IMO.

The Gamera films followed a similar arc, from “serious” films where he’s a destructive force of nature, to films where he’s a good guy, to films where he’s literally a children’s pet. The second film in the Kaneko trilogy is awesome. The other two are good too.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at May 17, 2025 08:24 PM (aeiyZ)

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I kind of hated Destroyah. Something about it's mix of things just irritated the shit out of me.

Posted by: TJM's phone at May 17, 2025 08:26 PM (GBKbO)

35 I'm sure the money was green. Actors gotta eat, too.

“I haven’t seen it. I’ve seen the house it bought my mother, and it’s marvelous.”

Posted by: Michael Caine at May 17, 2025 08:27 PM (ozkkf)

36 Sean connery and natalie wood i. Think brian keith was in meteor too or maybe henry fonds it was armageddon on a big budget for 1979

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 17, 2025 08:28 PM (bXbFr)

37 Speaking of movies, well, OK, commercials . . .

New Director Malia Obama Accused of Plagiarism in New Nike Ad

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now For a Limited Time Only! at May 17, 2025 08:28 PM (L/fGl)

38 If Godzilla is king of the monsters and Mothra is the queen of the monsters, who is the Prince Harry of the monsters?

Posted by: fd at May 17, 2025 08:29 PM (vFG9F)

39 If Godzilla is king of the monsters and Mothra is the queen of the monsters, who is the Prince Harry of the monsters?

Godzilla’s son, probably. Kid was cute, but clueless and clumsy and very annoying.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 17, 2025 08:31 PM (ozkkf)

40 Godzookie

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 17, 2025 08:31 PM (bXbFr)

41 Speaking of movies, well, OK, commercials . . .

New Director Malia Obama Accused of Plagiarism in New Nike Ad
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now For a Limited Time Only! at May 17, 2025 08:28 PM (L/fGl)


OK, I will bite: what did she plagiarize?

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 17, 2025 08:31 PM (pJWtt)

42 38 If Godzilla is king of the monsters and Mothra is the queen of the monsters, who is the Prince Harry of the monsters?
Posted by: fd at May 17, 2025 08:29 PM (vFG9F)

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Edward from Twilight?

Posted by: TJM's phone at May 17, 2025 08:31 PM (GBKbO)

43 I don't watch many movies these days, but I did watch "Shot Caller" last night. BLUF: normal guy goes to prison and gets caught up in the world of gang life, where it's kill or be killed. Not a perfect movie, but good enough to entertain me for 2 hours. The writer / director(?) was a California prison guard for two years, so he had some insight into the dynamics of the yard.

Posted by: PabloD at May 17, 2025 08:31 PM (R20f1)

44 Godzilla Minus One is by far my favorite; they finally had a plot that really connected you with the characters. Another fun fact: the radical looking Japanese fighter that is rebuilt and used to attack Godzilla really was on Japanese drawing boards at the end of the war; it was supposed to be a B-29 killer. They never got to build any, though.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 17, 2025 08:32 PM (buOX2)

45 "Greenland" was kind of stupid as SMODcore movies go. Too many scenes of being stuck in traffic. Yes yes, congratulations, you just made "Rush Hour I-10 HOUSTON: the Epic Thriller".

Posted by: gKWVE at May 17, 2025 08:33 PM (gKWVE)

46 I kind of hated Destroyah. Something about it's mix of things just irritated the shit out of me.
Posted by: TJM's phone at May 17, 2025 08:26 PM (GBKbO)
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I first saw Destoroyah in the theater … in Japan. No English subtitles.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at May 17, 2025 08:33 PM (aeiyZ)

47 ... starring Alec Baldwin as "the old guy who fires shots at you for not letting him in the fast lane"

Posted by: gKWVE at May 17, 2025 08:34 PM (gKWVE)

48 If the early movies I really liked the first Mothra - the singing Tiny Twins are totally surreal.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 17, 2025 08:34 PM (buOX2)

49 Godzilla-related, though not a movie.

Just for giggles, find yourself a copy of Joe Lansdale's short story "Godzilla's Twelve Step Program." It's included in his collections High Cotton, The Best of Joe R. Lansdale, and Cosmic Interruptions.

Trust me. Have I ever steered you wrong? (Exits stage left, without waiting for reply)

Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 17, 2025 08:36 PM (q3u5l)

50 I wants to thank Presdent Obama foor being a loving Black presdet and foor doering evrthing too stops that idiot Trump.

we loves yee and miss yuo..

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro,Vt at May 17, 2025 08:36 PM (9EViy)

51 I saw Twisters last night. Meh. It’s supposedly a sequel but it was a remake. Suffered the modern inexplicability of almost all characters being annoying and unlikeable. The lead girlboss was especially unlikeable. I was rooting for the tornados.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at May 17, 2025 08:37 PM (aeiyZ)

52 Speaking of movies, well, OK, commercials . . .

New Director Malia Obama Accused of Plagiarism in New Nike Ad
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now For a Limited Time Only! at May 17, 2025 08:28 PM (L/fGl)

I'd guess Malia didn't know anything about anything in the ad. Just a figure-head name attached to the project.

Posted by: 85 Bears at May 17, 2025 08:38 PM (r2ymA)

53 I have to say that except for the first Godzilla movie which just blew me away as a kid, especially the ending death scene where the scientist sacrifices himself to kill Godzilla, aaaand the mighty Godzilla just melts away suffering an ignoble end.

Great stuff. I may even have teared up a bit the first time I saw it as a wee tad. I took Godzilla very seriously, and then Godzilla VS King Kong kinda ruined all that.

Godzilla VS Destroyah is probably my next favorite where in Godzilla has Atomic AIDS or some such thing and while he does his duty as it were and saves the day. He hobbles off like John Wayne at the end of "The Searchers" to an ignoble, lonely, abandoned end for the world no longer needs him.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 17, 2025 08:38 PM (iJfKG)

54 I was rooting for the tornados.

History shows again and… oh, never mind.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 17, 2025 08:38 PM (ozkkf)

55 I always enjoyed the Japanese monster movies, but doing deep analysis on them is really unnecessary. They made them to make money. Full stop.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 17, 2025 08:38 PM (AGnKw)

56 Haven't seen any good movies lately, but I just watched the full run of Four Seasons on Netflix. It was okay, but had maudlin/saccharine scenes that detracted from the humor.

Posted by: Lincolntf at May 17, 2025 08:38 PM (2cS/G)

57 Someone effed up and I can watch the jets stars playoff game with no commentary at all.

Is this for real? I love it!!

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 17, 2025 08:39 PM (mT+6a)

58 If Godzilla is king of the monsters and Mothra is the queen of the monsters, who is the Prince Harry of the monsters?
Posted by: fd at May 17, 2025 08:29 PM (vFG9F)
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Godzookie?

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at May 17, 2025 08:39 PM (aeiyZ)

59 youtu.be/muUZjovOFRg

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at May 17, 2025 08:40 PM (cPl+1)

60 I watched "Come and See" which is mostly a strange, "Apocalypse Now" kind of film, until the last hour when it isn't. The 14 year old lead was pretty great in terms of a child actor. (Most child actors are terrible performers.)

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 17, 2025 08:40 PM (CHHv1)

61 So the ever-scowling, unpleasant "daughter" of the most un-American President ever, made a commercial for a brand of sneakers that only assholes buy?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 17, 2025 08:41 PM (AGnKw)

62 I saw Twisters last night. Meh. It’s supposedly a sequel but it was a remake. Suffered the modern inexplicability of almost all characters being annoying and unlikeable. The lead girlboss was especially unlikeable. I was rooting for the tornados.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at May 17, 2025 08:37 PM (aeiyZ)


I agree, Twisters wasn't very good. I also found the lead Girlboss(tm) to be unlikeable. We were supposed to be all broken-hearted for her because of her angst at getting fellow research students killed by a tornado. By the end of the movie, I was hoping the tornado would finish the job.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 17, 2025 08:42 PM (pJWtt)

63 Need to see Minus One.

I actually liked the kind of creature design in the remake, just the characters were annoying and that ruined the film. Some great visuals there though. Did not see the sequel (king of the monsters) because the early reviews sounded even more annoying.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 17, 2025 08:43 PM (u/bmb)

64 Greenland" was kind of stupid as SMODcore movies go. Too many scenes of being stuck in traffic. Yes yes, congratulations, you just made "Rush Hour I-10 HOUSTON: the Epic Thriller".
Posted by: gKWVE at May 17, 2025 08:33 PM (gKWVE)
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Agreed. I especially hated when they lost Junior's medicine (next time duct tape it to him).

But the lead-up scenes as the threat built up were good and tense, like when his neighbors wondered why he was considered "essential" and they had to kiss it all goodbye.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 17, 2025 08:43 PM (kpS4V)

65 OK, I will bite: what did she plagiarize?
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer

https://shorturl.at/PwX6z

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now For a Limited Time Only! at May 17, 2025 08:43 PM (L/fGl)

66 Godzilla VS Destroyah is probably my next favorite where in Godzilla has Atomic AIDS or some such thing and while he does his duty as it were and saves the day. He hobbles off like John Wayne at the end of "The Searchers" to an ignoble, lonely, abandoned end for the world no longer needs him.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 17, 2025 08:38 PM (iJfKG)
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I really liked it too. Some good backstory about the Destoroyah monsters and some great destruction scenes. It was a mix of genres which might put some people off, but the non-Godzilla scenes were good. The scene where the baby monsters attack the soldiers was a rip-off of Aliens, but it was genuinely scary and well done.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at May 17, 2025 08:44 PM (aeiyZ)

67 63
I actually liked the kind of creature design in the remake, just the characters were annoying and that ruined the film. Some great visuals there though. Did not see the sequel (king of the monsters) because the early reviews sounded even more annoying.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 17, 2025 08:43 PM (u/bmb)

====

The current American version is not very good. I do like how it started, but that's kind of it.

Posted by: TJM's phone at May 17, 2025 08:46 PM (GBKbO)

68 youtu.be/muUZjovOFRg

That was wonderful.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 17, 2025 08:46 PM (ozkkf)

69 My wife has committed to watching all 40-something episodes of "Stranger Things" before we go see it on Broadway in July. I really hope she likes it, because we already bought the tix. There are parts of that show that I really didn't like, but on balance it was good. It chronicles the years we were in high school, so hopefully the nostalgia aspect keeps her engaged.

Posted by: Lincolntf at May 17, 2025 08:47 PM (2cS/G)

70 What was that, 2014?

Ken Watanabe kind of sucked. He was trying to be dramatic and nifty and he just came across as odd and overdramatic.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 17, 2025 08:47 PM (u/bmb)

71 I liked Greenland.

I thought they did a good job in portraying how people would pretty much react to certain doom,

while the "essential" folk got a chance at survival.

It felt fairly well grounded for a disaster movie to me.

I sorta wish they'd done a sequel when the survivors come out into sludge-pile world.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 17, 2025 08:47 PM (iJfKG)

72 Damn. Someone hit the announcer play by play microphone back on.

That was cool

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 17, 2025 08:47 PM (mT+6a)

73 Just for giggles, find yourself a copy of Joe Lansdale's short story "Godzilla's Twelve Step Program." It's included in his collections High Cotton, The Best of Joe R. Lansdale, and Cosmic Interruptions.

Trust me. Have I ever steered you wrong? (Exits stage left, without waiting for reply)
Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 17, 2025 08:36 PM (q3u5l)
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Thanks! It's in my library queue now. I love his Weird West stuff.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 17, 2025 08:48 PM (kpS4V)

74 Ok, name a giant creature movie that wasn't campy at all. I cannot think of one.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 17, 2025 08:49 PM (u/bmb)

75 I saw Twisters last night. Meh. It’s supposedly a sequel but it was a remake. Suffered the modern inexplicability of almost all characters being annoying and unlikeable. The lead girlboss was especially unlikeable. I was rooting for the tornados.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at May 17, 2025 08:37 PM (aeiyZ)

I agree, Twisters wasn't very good. I also found the lead Girlboss(tm) to be unlikeable. We were supposed to be all broken-hearted for her because of her angst at getting fellow research students killed by a tornado. By the end of the movie, I was hoping the tornado would finish the job.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 17, 2025 08:42 PM (pJWtt)
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Yea, her arrogance and stupidity got a bunch of people killed, but not only does she pay no price for that, she’s rewarded by being hailed as some kind of tornado genius and has two desirable men fighting over her. Fuck off.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at May 17, 2025 08:49 PM (aeiyZ)

76 74 Ok, name a giant creature movie that wasn't campy at all. I cannot think of one.
Posted by: Aetius451AD


None. That’s the point. Godzilla, King Kong, Zombeavers……

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 17, 2025 08:50 PM (mT+6a)

77 Ok, name a giant creature movie that wasn't campy at all. I cannot think of one.
Posted by: Aetius451AD


None. That’s the point. Godzilla, King Kong, Zombeavers……
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 17, 2025 08:50 PM (mT+6a)
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20,000 Fathoms?

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at May 17, 2025 08:51 PM (aeiyZ)

78 Fuck off.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at May 17, 2025 08:49 PM (aeiyZ)

They replaced Bill Paxton with her. And no replacement for Helen Hunt.

Sad.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 17, 2025 08:51 PM (u/bmb)

79 "Ok, name a giant creature movie that wasn't campy at all. I cannot think of one.
Posted by: Aetius451AD"

Moby Dick.

Posted by: fd at May 17, 2025 08:51 PM (vFG9F)

80 Ok, name a giant creature movie that wasn't campy at all. I cannot think of one.

Cloverfield? The first Pacific Rim? The Mist? I’m not saying they were good (although I enjoyed Pacific Rim) but I don’t think I’d call them campy.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 17, 2025 08:52 PM (ozkkf)

81 But it would be a cool idea. Scary, tense action. Like Cloverfield but does not suck.

Original War of the Worlds?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 17, 2025 08:52 PM (u/bmb)

82 Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 17, 2025 08:52 PM World's?

Pacific Rim is the definition of camp.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 17, 2025 08:53 PM (u/bmb)

83 Ever see "Squirm"? It was on TV at night on Saturday one week when I was a kid, and they promoted it heavily. I begged my father to let me stay awake and watch it. He acquiesced, I still have nightmares about that freaking movie.

Posted by: Lincolntf at May 17, 2025 08:53 PM (2cS/G)

84 The original Godzilla wasn't campy.

As TJM points out, it was pretty serious minded.

Campy involves broadly winking at the audience and there was none of that.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 17, 2025 08:55 PM (iJfKG)

85 Pacific Rim is the definition of camp.

Well, in that case, the answer to the question is that most of the original Godzilla movies were not camp…

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 17, 2025 08:55 PM (ozkkf)

86 In honor of the Conclave ending in the election of Pope Leo XIV, I watched The Shoes of the Fisherman. Pretty decent movie about a Russian bishop (a political prisoner at the start of the movie) that is elected Pope. Anthony Quinn does a great job portraying a humble man that has greatness thrust upon him.

Made in 1968, the movie is a time capsule of the Catholic Church at the time. My DVD had good color but the audio seemed muted (I don't know if that was true of the original release).

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 17, 2025 08:56 PM (pJWtt)

87 Bill Paxton is basically irreplaceable.

Posted by: gKWVE at May 17, 2025 08:58 PM (gKWVE)

88 Oh no, there goes Tokyo; Godzilla!

Posted by: Archer at May 17, 2025 08:58 PM (IDphi)

89 Bill Paxton is basically irreplaceable.
Posted by: gKWVE at May 17, 2025 08:58 PM (gKWVE)

Hudson, sir. He's Hicks!

Posted by: Cpl Hudson at May 17, 2025 08:59 PM (u/bmb)

90
Was The Shoes of the Fisherman the one where the Pope decides to sell off the Vatican to Las Vegas or some such thing and give all the money to the poor?.

I always thought that movie was pretty stupid.

And worse, boring.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 17, 2025 08:59 PM (iJfKG)

91
AVOID: The Lobster 2015, Colin Farrell.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 17, 2025 09:01 PM (GPag/)

92 History shows again and again

How nature points out the folly of man

Godzilla

Posted by: Archer at May 17, 2025 09:01 PM (IDphi)

93 74 Ok, name a giant creature movie that wasn't campy at all. I cannot think of one.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 17, 2025 08:49 PM (u/bmb)

The Giant Gila Monster? Ok well it made a good MST episode at least.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 17, 2025 09:02 PM (buOX2)

94 I can guess Warfare is only on Netflix?

Posted by: Skip at May 17, 2025 09:03 PM (ypFCm)

95 And worse, boring.
Posted by: naturalfake at May 17, 2025 08:59 PM (iJfKG)

Just read the synopsis.

Huh. Quick wash: can't we all get along? Surrender to commie utopia.

Posted by: Cpl Hudson at May 17, 2025 09:03 PM (u/bmb)

96 It's On Demand

Posted by: Skip at May 17, 2025 09:05 PM (ypFCm)

97 I liked Monster Island.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 17, 2025 09:05 PM (by0v9)

98 PJ Slew Foot looks like Liberace.

Posted by: Archer at May 17, 2025 09:05 PM (IDphi)

99 MST3K did Squirm.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 17, 2025 09:06 PM (63Dwl)

100 94 I can guess Warfare is only on Netflix?
Posted by: Skip at May 17, 2025 09:03 PM (ypFCm)

As I understand it, it was made by Netflix. So, yeah.

Posted by: Cow Demon at May 17, 2025 09:07 PM (vm8sq)

101 It's a peninsula.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 17, 2025 09:07 PM (63Dwl)

102 I never did a on demand movie

Posted by: Skip at May 17, 2025 09:07 PM (ypFCm)

103 I watched two pretty bad movies over the last week. One was a train wreck, the other a deliberate catastrophe.

What if Woody Allen dialogue were put on top of an Ingmar Bergman movie? Interiors. I don’t know what to say about it except that I couldn’t stop watching it and it just kept getting worse and worse.

The only saving grace of The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes was Christopher Lee as a much more active Mycroft. For the most part, it didn’t make sense; either as a movie or as a period movie. The “foreshadowing” was usually handled one or two scenes in advance and very clumsily at that. Holmes doesn’t actually do anything, and ignores very obvious clues for no apparent reason other than that Watson called him gay in the beginning and he’s pouting while trying to prove he isn’t.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 17, 2025 09:08 PM (ozkkf)

104 I demanded a movie leave my house.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 17, 2025 09:10 PM (63Dwl)

105 Funny how Disney is making shit as bad as Godzilla but spending $300 million to do it, then insulting the audience for not loving it.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov, now, where does a war hero get some lubrication around here? at May 17, 2025 09:12 PM (wBaIH)

106 An early monster movie I found to be unintentionally hilarious is 1961’s “Reptilicus” filmed in Denmark. At one point when the monster is about to rampage into the city, it turns into a short Travelogue for Copenhagen. They’re fleeing, and suddenly “and if you are in Copenhagen, you will to visit our wonderful museums and our picturesque seashore. Everyone loves to see our little mermaid statue! Meanwhile, back to the monster…”

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 17, 2025 09:13 PM (buOX2)

107 if you are in Copenhagen, you will to visit our wonderful museums and our picturesque seashore. Everyone loves to see our little mermaid statue! Meanwhile, back to the monster…”
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 17, 2025 09:13 PM (buOX2)

did the monster snuff it in the end?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 17, 2025 09:16 PM (AGnKw)

108 Gorgo was a fun monster movie. A Brit version of Godzilla. Naturally I saw it via MST 3k.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at May 17, 2025 09:19 PM (0aYVJ)

109 did the monster snuff it in the end?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 17, 2025 09:16 PM (AGnKw)

They come up with some kind of magic bazooka that injects some chemical in its mouth and it blows up. But at the very end they show one foot all by itself stomping away across the seafloor, making you wonder if the whole thing is going to come back. (Because of that scene I remember I saw this one as a kid at a matinee)

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 17, 2025 09:20 PM (buOX2)

110 Good to know. I will re-watch "Squirm" before my next fishing trip.

Posted by: Lincolntf at May 17, 2025 09:21 PM (2cS/G)

111 7 if you are in Copenhagen, you will to visit our wonderful museums and our picturesque seashore. Everyone loves to see our little mermaid statue! Meanwhile, back to the monster…”
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 17, 2025 09:13 PM (buOX2)

Why not consider a holiday in Sweden this year. See the lovely lakes. The modern telephone system.

Posted by: Archer at May 17, 2025 09:22 PM (IDphi)

112 I watched Northman last night, Alexander Skarsgard. I expected an extended Amon Amarth video. It was more like a Norse saga, right down to the dialogue. I actually enjoyed it immensely. Not bad for an impulse purchase from the Walmart 5 dollar movie bin.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at May 17, 2025 09:24 PM (0aYVJ)

113 Gorgo was a fun monster movie. A Brit version of Godzilla. Naturally I saw it via MST 3k.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at May 17, 2025 09:19 PM (0aYVJ)

I think I had a comic book of that. Last page, the skyscraper-sized city destroying monster swims out to sea, and settles back to the bottom, next to Momma, who is about 20 times his size.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 17, 2025 09:25 PM (AGnKw)

114 Why not consider a holiday in Sweden this year. See the lovely lakes. The modern telephone system.

Posted by: Archer at May 17, 2025 09:22 PM (IDphi)

The Swedish telephone system is so modern, if you 911 to report an assault by muslims, it automatically diverts your call to a racism struggle group.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 17, 2025 09:28 PM (AGnKw)

115 I can honestly say I’ve never watched a Godzilla movie . Does that make me a bad person?

Posted by: polynikes at May 17, 2025 09:29 PM (VofaG)

116 Has anyone seen the first two episodes of "Murderbot" yet? Its on Apple TV is is based on the novels of the same name by Martha Wells..

Posted by: Tuna at May 17, 2025 09:30 PM (lJ0H4)

117 What was the Korean movie where the giant monster created by CIA dumping chemicals in river came out and attacked the city ?

Posted by: polynikes at May 17, 2025 09:31 PM (VofaG)

118 polynikes Lind of kid movies to me, not that adults can't watch teenage horror movies

Posted by: Skip at May 17, 2025 09:32 PM (ypFCm)

119 The Japanese have had many monsters attack, but the worst were Dolphin and Whale.

Posted by: Archer at May 17, 2025 09:33 PM (IDphi)

120 I found "Outlaw" MST'ed on Youtube. It's the Gor sequel. It's every bit as good as I imagined

Posted by: gKWVE at May 17, 2025 09:33 PM (gKWVE)

121 @117 I think that was "The Host" but I'm not sure.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 17, 2025 09:34 PM (CHHv1)

122 Bill Paxton is basically irreplaceable.
Posted by: gKWVE at May 17, 2025 08:58 PM (gKWVE)

I watched Frailty again a couple of weeks ago . I didn’t realize how many Matthew McConaughey movies I like. He’s right up there with Keanu Reeves in batting average.

Posted by: polynikes at May 17, 2025 09:34 PM (VofaG)

123 Has anyone seen the first two episodes of "Murderbot" yet? Its on Apple TV is is based on the novels of the same name by Martha Wells..

I’d be interested in that, too. I enjoyed the first novel. But as I recall it’s almost all handled as a mental dialogue.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 17, 2025 09:35 PM (ozkkf)

124 BTW Polynikes your paintings are terrific.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 17, 2025 09:35 PM (CHHv1)

125 think that was "The Host" but I'm not sure.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 17, 2025 09:34 PM (CHHv1)

Yeah that’s it. Not bad. Closest I’ve come to Godzilla,

Posted by: polynikes at May 17, 2025 09:37 PM (VofaG)

126 Monster movies are awesome.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 17, 2025 09:37 PM (mT+6a)

127 King Kong > Godzilla

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 17, 2025 09:37 PM (tgl2u)

128 Thx TJM. Great Godzilla review. Don't remember which one it was but the one with baby Godzilla always cracked me up. He tried the death breath and only a ring came out. The Japanese are definitely a trip

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 17, 2025 09:38 PM (ef25Y)

129 King Kong > Godzilla
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 17, 2025 09:37 PM (tgl2u)

The 1933 original, with Alberta's own Fay Wray as Kong's love interest.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 17, 2025 09:39 PM (AGnKw)

130 BTW Polynikes your paintings are terrific.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 17, 2025 09:35 PM (CHHv1)

Thanks BC.

Posted by: polynikes at May 17, 2025 09:40 PM (VofaG)

131 Posted by: Just Sayin... at May 17, 2025 07:59 PM (LzHn0)

Again, as with the post on "Pride and Prejudice "
From last week, why do some posters go on here To insult the author who spent time and effort on their review. Why don't they just skip the thread?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 17, 2025 09:40 PM (nFq4j)

132 Fay Wray was quite the little biscuit back then.

Posted by: Lincolntf at May 17, 2025 09:40 PM (2cS/G)

133 Godzilla vs The Deep State

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 17, 2025 09:41 PM (YMUlg)

134 Would a monster jazz-fusion band be Spiragojira?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 17, 2025 09:41 PM (AGnKw)

135 @131 Fen, well said

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 17, 2025 09:42 PM (ef25Y)

136 120 I found "Outlaw" MST'ed on Youtube. It's the Gor sequel. It's every bit as good as I imagined
Posted by: gKWVE at May 17, 2025 09:33 PM (gKWVE)

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When I win the Lotto the first thing I’m going to do is make a big budget book accurate Gor.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 17, 2025 09:42 PM (YMUlg)

137 "Ok, name a giant creature movie that wasn't campy at all. I cannot think of one.
Posted by: Aetius451AD"


Underwater.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 17, 2025 09:43 PM (tgl2u)

138 Posted by: Just Sayin... at May 17, 2025 07:59 PM (LzHn0)

I bet you're super fun at dinner parties. Dickweed.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at May 17, 2025 09:43 PM (0aYVJ)

139 I didn't think of The original Godzilla as campy. I think it was intended to be a serious monster thriller . I just think 50 years or more (?) of it being around combined with the simple special effects made it seem campy now.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 17, 2025 09:43 PM (nFq4j)

140 Why don't they just skip the thread?

Judging from the fact that their hash, at least according to a Google search (which is admittedly becoming less reliable) hasn’t posted before, they probably came here specifically to stir shit up.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 17, 2025 09:44 PM (ozkkf)

141 Ok, name a giant creature movie that wasn't campy at all. I cannot think of one.
Posted by: Aetius451AD"

As posted above, the Host was pretty good.

Posted by: polynikes at May 17, 2025 09:44 PM (VofaG)

142 Who was heavier, Godzilla or Raymond Burr?

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 17, 2025 09:45 PM (ef25Y)

143 In the giant monster genre I'm still partial to Them

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 17, 2025 09:46 PM (ef25Y)

144 I think all B Movies are somewhat campy . Monster or no monster.

Posted by: polynikes at May 17, 2025 09:46 PM (VofaG)

145 I never saw Creature from the Black Lagoon, but I did see the sequel, Revenge of the Creature (again via MST3k). Actually not a bad flick despite the presence of "the stunningly annoying John Agar" (per Pearl Forrester). Some dude named Clint Eastwood makes a brief appearance.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at May 17, 2025 09:47 PM (0aYVJ)

146 In the giant monster genre I'm still partial to Them
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 17, 2025 09:46 PM (ef25Y)

Love and Monsters is a pretty good movie.

Posted by: polynikes at May 17, 2025 09:48 PM (VofaG)

147 I never saw Creature from the Black Lagoon, but I did see the sequel, Revenge of the Creature (again via MST3k). Actually not a bad flick despite the presence of "the stunningly annoying John Agar" (per Pearl Forrester). Some dude named Clint Eastwood makes a brief appearance.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at May 17, 2025 09:47 PM (0aYVJ)

The makers of the original film went to a great deal of trouble to make a very realistic-looking latex monster suit.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 17, 2025 09:49 PM (AGnKw)

148 Super 8 is an excellent monster movie. Getting a group of kids who can act is exceedingly rare. Those kids nailed it.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at May 17, 2025 09:50 PM (0aYVJ)

149 One of the most fun things about “Them” is that so many of the bit part characters are hilarious and good, like the drunk in the hospital.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 17, 2025 09:50 PM (buOX2)

150 A while back, we watched.....

"Monarch: Legacy of Monsters"

Starring Kurt Russell and his son Eric Russell (he plays the younger version of the character that Kurt Russell plays later).
And yes, Godzilla is in this series. Actually, pretty original take on the whole thing. Takes a while to figure out what is going on.
And the series ends on something of a cliffhanger....leaving the possibility of another season of action - packed adventure.

It was on Apple TV.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt17220216/

If Joe Bob Briggs was on this thread, he would say "check it out".

Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at May 17, 2025 09:51 PM (tjZg/)

151 "She's trying to sleep her way to the bottom!"

Posted by: gKWVE at May 17, 2025 09:51 PM (gKWVE)

152 Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla II has my favorite opening theme song of the entire franchise (its also the final song in the end credits of Shin Godzilla). I also love the opening theme of Return of Godzilla (retitled "Godzilla 1985" in the American edit). I'm always impressed when minimalist music can create the intended mood. It can be a challenge for a composer to know when there's enough mood that no more instrumentation is needed. These composers hit the mark beautifully.

Posted by: Alex at May 17, 2025 09:52 PM (LmEbi)

153 My favorite movie with monsters in them was Jason and the Argonauts.

Posted by: polynikes at May 17, 2025 09:52 PM (VofaG)

154 Creature from the Black Lagoon is great 50’s voyeurism, like when the monster is swimming beneath the girl and ogling every inch of her body, along with the audience.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 17, 2025 09:52 PM (buOX2)

155 My favorite movie with monsters in them was Jason and the Argonauts.
Posted by: polynikes at May 17, 2025 09:52 PM (VofaG)

Harry Harryhausen stop-motion claymation for the monsters, right?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 17, 2025 09:53 PM (AGnKw)

156 Creature from the Black Lagoon is great 50’s voyeurism, like when the monster is swimming beneath the girl and ogling every inch of her body, along with the audience.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 17, 2025 09:52 PM (buOX

I think that’s where Spielberg got his idea for the opening scene in Jaws,

Posted by: polynikes at May 17, 2025 09:53 PM (VofaG)

157 Harry Harryhausen stop-motion claymation for the monsters, right?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 17, 2025 09:53 PM (AGnKw)

Yeah . The skeleton army was the best,

Posted by: polynikes at May 17, 2025 09:54 PM (VofaG)

158 Bill Paxton -

If you've never seen it, check out A Simple Plan starring Paxton, Billy Bob Thornton, Bridget Fonda, and Gary Cole. A NICE adaptation of Scott Smith's novel with screenplay by Smith (plays fast and loose with some plot twists but stays faithful to the overall story line).

Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 17, 2025 09:56 PM (q3u5l)

159 @158 an excellent "small" movie

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 17, 2025 09:58 PM (ef25Y)

160 If you've never seen it, check out A Simple Plan starring Paxton, Billy Bob Thornton, Bridget Fonda, and Gary Cole. A NICE adaptation of Scott Smith's novel with screenplay by Smith (plays fast and loose with some plot twists but stays faithful to the overall story line).
Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 17, 2025 09:56 PM (q3u5l)

I started to watch it once but I can’t watch a movie where you see the characters just sabotage themselves. Uncut Gems was like that . Really good movie and Sandler did a great job but very hard for me to watch.

Posted by: polynikes at May 17, 2025 09:58 PM (VofaG)

161 Actually RAY Harryhausen, Harry Harrison was the sci-fi writer.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 17, 2025 09:59 PM (CHHv1)

162 And by the way, Bridget Fonda did not age well at all.

Posted by: polynikes at May 17, 2025 09:59 PM (VofaG)

163 Actually RAY Harryhausen, Harry Harrison was the sci-fi writer.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 17, 2025 09:59 PM (CHHv1)


Right, you are. Thanks.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 17, 2025 10:00 PM (AGnKw)

164 My favorite movie with monsters in them was Jason and the Argonauts.
Posted by: polynikes at May 17, 2025 09:52 PM (VofaG)

FenSpouse loves that film. I think we still have it on an old tape here. And that sequence is really good.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 17, 2025 10:00 PM (nFq4j)

165 like the drunk in the hospital.

"Make me a sergeant in charge of the booze!"

His performance led to him being Daniel Boone.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 17, 2025 10:00 PM (CHHv1)

166 The End

Roll Credits

Posted by: mindful webworker - so now what at May 17, 2025 10:00 PM (byv8W)

167 ONT IS NOOD

Posted by: Skip at May 17, 2025 10:01 PM (ypFCm)

168 @160 a few weeks back Friedkin movies were discussed. "Sorcerer" was one. All the characters were unlikable but it was an excellent movie

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 17, 2025 10:01 PM (ef25Y)

169 Thanks to the peeps for the suggestion in the Hobby thread. Will think about it.

Posted by: weft-cut loop at May 17, 2025 10:08 PM (mlg/3)

170 I like how Perry Mason got Godzilla off in a dramatic court scene. It's in a rarely scene Director's Cut Really Really Final Edition, only available if you bought the 4 prior director's cut DVD's. Should really be streamed someday.

Posted by: jimmymcnulty at May 17, 2025 10:10 PM (ocrbo)

171 Club ONT- get your groove on!!!

Posted by: tankdemon at May 17, 2025 10:10 PM (jWul0)

172 170 I like how Perry Mason got Godzilla off in a dramatic court scene. It's in a rarely scene Director's Cut Really Really Final Edition, only available if you bought the 4 prior director's cut DVD's. Should really be streamed someday.
Posted by: jimmymcnulty at May 17, 2025 10:10 PM (ocrbo)

McNulty, put down the bottle.

You're scaring the normies.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 17, 2025 10:55 PM (tgl2u)

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