Daily Tech News 7 May 2025

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Skype is dead. Here's five alternatives. (Hot Hardware)

I wish it were dead. I've received eight messages on it from work today. The first of those at four minutes past midnight.

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Intel's 265K has been cut in price from $399 to $299. (Tom's Hardware)

While overall I would recommend AMD's platform, that does deliver 80% of the performance of Intel's current top-of-the-line chip for 50% of the price. It's a little faster than AMD's 9900X and now 20% cheaper as well.

If Intel wasn't planning a new socket next year cutting off any possibility of upgrades it might actually be worth recommending. But they are so it's not.
Under RDK, "Make America Healthy Again" means junk science like, uh, evolution. (The Verge) (archive site)
"There's a sort of Darwin-esque notion that only the fittest survive," says Paul Offit, a vaccine scientist, virologist, and professor of pediatrics at the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia.
"Only the fittest survive" is tautological. In evolution, fitness is defined by survival to reproduction.
"But these viruses can kill anybody, so that's just wrong." In the recent deaths, the first from measles in a decade, no underlying medication conditions have been reported. Both of the Texas children were reportedly healthy before they contracted measles. They could have stayed that way.
Measles doesn't just "kill anybody" as Offit knows perfectly well. It was a major killer before the introduction of the vaccine, and we certainly shouldn't abandon that vaccine.

But it kills children.

Musical Interlude

Disclaimer: Poit.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at 04:30 AM

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1 G'Day everyone

Posted by: Skip at May 07, 2025 04:33 AM (ypFCm)

2 I'M NOT GAY, YOU'RE GAY!

Posted by: CONCUSSED PETE BUTTIGIEG at May 07, 2025 04:33 AM (4/BuS)

3 Poit.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at May 07, 2025 04:33 AM (BLOW1)

4 I like Enya

Posted by: Skip at May 07, 2025 04:33 AM (ypFCm)

5 BOING!

Slow today.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 07, 2025 04:34 AM (Te9F3)

6 GDay Skip and Pixie

Posted by: Pete Bog at May 07, 2025 04:35 AM (EGtUA)

7 Hello B Dog.

Posted by: Pete Bog at May 07, 2025 04:35 AM (EGtUA)

8 Pixy was wondering yesterday, I see some sites know what countries their hits are from. Is that a standard given or it has to be set up?
Not requesting it just wondering.

Posted by: Skip at May 07, 2025 04:35 AM (ypFCm)

9 Leader of the Australian Greens, avowed communist and terrorist-lover Adam Bandt, lost his seat in parliament. In communist, terrorist-loving Melbourne.

Petter Dutton, the utterly useless leader of the nominally conservative Liberal party, also lost his seat.

So it wasn't all bad.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at May 07, 2025 04:39 AM (BLOW1)

10 But it kills children.
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What kills children? Measles, the vaccine, or both?

Ambiguous.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 07, 2025 04:39 AM (Te9F3)

11 Skip, we did have that. Not sure if it still works, but it probably does.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at May 07, 2025 04:39 AM (BLOW1)

12 Hello B Dog.

Posted by: Pete Bog at May 07, 2025 04:35 AM (EGtUA)
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Boker tov, Pete and Horde.

Chynah brinked:

https://tinyurl.com/4jytjr73

WINNING!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 07, 2025 04:41 AM (Te9F3)

13 I like Enya
Posted by: Skip at May 07, 2025 04:33 AM (ypFCm)

I have this one song by Enya on my youtube playlist.

Its a good tune.

Posted by: Kwak! at May 07, 2025 04:41 AM (89Sog)

14 Morning, 'rons and 'ronettes. 56 mild degrees here at Stately Poppins Manor, with rain (yet again) on its way.

I saw the sad news about Jim SND. I never really had the chance to 'talk' with him, but I always enjoyed reading his comments over the years. I pray for him and hope he is now past all pain and unhappiness.

Regarding a couple of things on the ONT - I was hoping to get back to Gettysburg this year, but I doubt I'll be able to take a vacation. I would like to go to either Texas or Virginia for a MoMe, but I probably won't do either - not because of money, but because of my own mental hangups.

Fave bars? I'm giving a vote for the bar at the Farnsworth House in Gettysburg. It was "headquarters" for both the Union and Confederate sides during the making of the movie, and has a wall lined with costumes and props. Not a great bar, per se, but one good for people-watching.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at May 07, 2025 04:43 AM (Dg2sF)

15 And as I expected, a lot of work left over from last night, so will see you all on the Morning Report.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at May 07, 2025 04:43 AM (Dg2sF)

16 Oh, and I like Enya, too, but "Orinoco Flow" is so overplayed, I find it actively annoying.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at May 07, 2025 04:45 AM (Dg2sF)

17 DataRepblican is digging up what there is to find on Sen. Tillis:

https://tinyurl.com/2tc94xf8

Now you know.

And she isn't finished yet.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 07, 2025 04:48 AM (Te9F3)

18 https://tinyurl.com/y92rm4d8
Ballad of Tom Tillis from Doug Ross Journal

Posted by: Skip at May 07, 2025 04:56 AM (ypFCm)

19 Philistines upon you, America:

https://tinyurl.com/yzpa7rew

Believe them when they tell you who they are.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 07, 2025 05:02 AM (Te9F3)

20 Sometimes I feel annoyed at having to "Verify I'm human" to a machine in order to get a tinyurl code.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 07, 2025 05:05 AM (YguxL)

21 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at May 07, 2025 04:45 AM (Dg2sF

But it isn't as bad as pina colado song.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 07, 2025 05:06 AM (YguxL)

22 MP4, come to Texas and be with people that care for you.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 07, 2025 05:07 AM (NVNRw)

23 Sometimes I feel annoyed at having to "Verify I'm human" to a machine in order to get a tinyurl code.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 07, 2025 05:05 AM (YguxL)

Makes you wonder what SkyNet is using tinyurl for.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 07, 2025 05:07 AM (ExV1e)

24 Getting through web traps is annoying

Posted by: Skip at May 07, 2025 05:07 AM (ypFCm)

25 Mornin'

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 07, 2025 05:08 AM (sAmhv)

26
Under RDK, "Make America Healthy Again" means junk science like, uh, evolution

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I mean, yeah.

The worst part might be where we're supposed to pretend Darwin didn't blow the hypothesis to smithereens by determining that yes, the same completely normal, recognizable, already-named creatures that exist everywhere else on the planet ALSO exist on the Galapagos Islands.

But everyone has to smile and nod and say "Yep, that's a different color bird than that bird over there, so that proves evolution!!! Hey, look, a turtle!"

Uh, guys? Didn't you notice you recognized all those animals?

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - A man can't abandon a child if the couple isn't married at May 07, 2025 05:08 AM (AHCS8)

27 Whether you are the Confederacy, or the Apache, or whatever, history shows it's a big mistake to take on the U.S. Army.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at May 07, 2025 05:12 AM (ZmEVT)

28 The neat part about that measles article?

ctl+f "immigrants"

ctl+f "migrants"

Not even illegals or illegal aliens. Just the MSM approved terms. Crickets.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - A man can't abandon a child if the couple isn't married at May 07, 2025 05:13 AM (AHCS8)

29 I read that some Cardinal too old to vote stormed out of the Vatican complaining the college of Cardinals don't care about Francis' legacy.

Maybe he is really upset that the college may elect, you know, a Catholic.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at May 07, 2025 05:14 AM (ZmEVT)

30 Adding Jim's family to my prayers today. Never a good start to the morning to hear that news.

Posted by: NR Pax at May 07, 2025 05:14 AM (jjoN6)

31 (looks at 20 years of trillion-dollar grifting before smiling and handing two nations back to goat-****ers after thousands of our boys died and without seizing any resources)

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - A man can't abandon a child if the couple isn't married at May 07, 2025 05:15 AM (AHCS8)

32 But it isn't as bad as pina colado song.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 07, 2025 05:06 AM (YguxL)

IIRC, "Escape (The Pina Colada Song)" was both the last number one hit of 1979 and the first number one hit of 1980.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at May 07, 2025 05:17 AM (Dg2sF)

33 I thought this was a lovely remembrance of a man of his father who continued to be active in encouraging people in their faith even when he was critically ill. Scripture is Philippians 3:7-14. The thought of the day is "I will look forward to each day in anticipation of God's calling":

https://tinyurl.com/4k8vbsmj

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 07, 2025 05:18 AM (YguxL)

34 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at May 07, 2025 05:17 AM (Dg2sF)

And I've been loathing it for a very long time. 😉

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 07, 2025 05:19 AM (YguxL)

35 Sometimes I feel annoyed at having to "Verify I'm human" to a machine in order to get a tinyurl code.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 07, 2025 05:05 AM (YguxL)
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It's humans' fault that site owners need the verification to protect against non-human access.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 07, 2025 05:21 AM (Te9F3)

36 Job going to is a mess, young supervisor let it go to hell.
Lots of things should have been done long ago.

Posted by: Skip at May 07, 2025 05:22 AM (ypFCm)

37 If Intel wasn't planning a new socket next year cutting off any possibility of upgrades it might actually be worth recommending. But they are so it's not.

Do you often find yourself upgrading a CPU for a machine you've already purchased or built?

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at May 07, 2025 05:22 AM (O7YUW)

38 Nicer day today, been unsettled last few.

Posted by: Skip at May 07, 2025 05:23 AM (ypFCm)

39 Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 07, 2025 05:07 AM (ExV1e)

Indeed.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 07, 2025 05:25 AM (SzczT)

40 33: Didn't include the entire scripture reference :

Philippians 3:7-14

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 07, 2025 05:27 AM (SzczT)

41 Being on the distinguished end of life, sleeping through the entire night is merely impossible it seems. Such was the case tonight. As usual, I pop on the Tech Thread to see what's going on. I'm so sad to see Jim SND passed on. I always thought that I would one day go see him down along the gulf and buy him a drink. I'm feeling I missed doing something important by not ever doing that.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at May 07, 2025 05:29 AM (amnH6)

42 Morning all

Posted by: rickb223 at May 07, 2025 05:37 AM (xt/H7)

43 California police rescue child with autism from a busy freeway in California:

https://tinyurl.com/2jsxndw5

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 07, 2025 05:37 AM (42Vb+)

44 Florida man...

https://tinyurl.com/mr36y8e9

Posted by: Kwak! at May 07, 2025 05:40 AM (89Sog)

45 any possibility of upgrades it might actually be worth recommending. But they are so it's not.

Do you often find yourself upgrading a CPU for a machine you've already purchased or built?
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant

I have kept a comprehensive inventory of everything I own and have owned for a very long time now and because of that I'm able to understand with certainty what I buy and how long I keep I keep possession of items.

Once upon a time I was upgrading and flipping machines all the time as I enjoyed owning the latest and greatest. That changed.

In desktops I've owned two since 2012 with a new one arriving today that happens to have that 256 chip in it. This works for me because I use my machines for daily use and Photoshop - that is a very set usage pattern that has a fairly defined hardware profile. For me having a network drive is as important as having a desktop computer. In other words, my desktops are a computing appliance that I rarely crack open to fuss around with.

Laptops said the other had are a whole different story of crazy.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at May 07, 2025 05:41 AM (amnH6)

46 Sometimes I feel annoyed at having to "Verify I'm human" to a machine in order to get a tinyurl code.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke

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They know you're human. And they don't really care if you're not. I doesn't really have anything to do with you. Well, except for your free labor.

It's not what it seems. As was so wisely put years ago, "everything is fake and gay".

"Captcha if you can: how you’ve been training AI for years without realising it"

https://tinyurl.com/bdz4wvr8

The really fun part is pondering if the dastardly "need" for captcha was created by the same folks in order to get the work done. I mean, that's hypothetical. Of course it was.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Satisfy your boss' every desire, ignore almost all of your husband's at May 07, 2025 05:45 AM (r9cXI)

47 Did you hear about the IT guy who was falsely arrested?

He was mainframed.

Sorry. II'm at the bottom of the barrel for tech jokes. You tech folks/ if so inclined- can perhaps provide some funnier ones.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 07, 2025 05:48 AM (42Vb+)

48 Carrie Underwood sings an old time-and for many Protestants- a favorite hymn- "How Great Thou Art":

https://tinyurl.com/2cszk3ts

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 07, 2025 05:52 AM (42Vb+)

49 Evening and morning on this Woden's Day, all!

It's drizzling rain, but we expect more by noon. I have a couple of errands to run between nine and ten, but then I'll settle back home.

Q for Pixy or other tech people: The compact keyboard that came with the 2013-ish iMac is fine (though two keys are coming loose!). But I'd like a full-sized Apple-compatible keyboard, preferably wireless. There's a decent-looking one on Amazon by Chesona (? Chinese brand) for $39, and also Logitech ones for $100. Are the Logitech ones worth that much more? That is, are they sturdier and last longer?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 07, 2025 05:55 AM (omVj0)

50 First light on the newly collimated, new 10 in Newtonian tonight.

I call it "My Big Ten Inch!". Thinking of getting that painted on the tube in big letters. I just don't know how many exclamation marks to use.

The stars are TIGHT!!!!

Pelicans flying through the FOV on their way to breakfast will freak you out.

Posted by: pawn at May 07, 2025 05:56 AM (QB+5g)

51 @45/Alteria Pilgram: "In other words, my desktops are a computing appliance that I rarely crack open to fuss around with. "

Yup, that's where I'm at. My desktop case gets cracked open to:

1) Clean the dust out
2) Replace cooling fans
3) Take the CPU cooler off and replace the heat transfer paste between the cooler and the CPU chip.
4) Replace a video card once it pops (and they do eventually.)

I can't remember ever upgrading a CPU chip in place on an existing motherboard. If I'm buying a CPU, it's usually as part of the computational core package (motherboard, CPU, memory) because I'm upgrading all of that together, or I'm just building a new machine.

And like you, I used to buy bleeding edge stuff but now I make stuff last as long as I can. Now when it is time for a new machine, I tend to overspec it in terms of memory and storage while buying 2 or 3 version releases back on the technology, because I'm not a fan of my wallet bleeding out to pay for bleeding edge technology that the price will crash down on in 3 to 6 months (or at least that's how it used to be, video cards have become a bit of a nightmare these days.)

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at May 07, 2025 05:57 AM (O7YUW)

52 Birdbath status?

Posted by: Just Wondering at May 07, 2025 05:59 AM (dg+HA)

53 Wolfus, I was suggesting to another moron to spend a bit more and buy a Logitech just yesterday or so.

I have a (IIRC) 610+ gaming keyboard that is probably at least 7 years old and has had the keycaps replaced twice. It works just as well as the day I opened the box. If it ever decides to die I'll try to find an updated one (or maybe the same one on ebay, frankly)

I think there's a benefit to the cheaper ones if you're carrying it places, though. It would be a lot easier to lose a $30 one vs a $100 one. But if it's mostly going to stick around the house? Get the Logitech and maybe consider an even cheaper than $30 option for when you leave the house.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Satisfy your boss' every desire, ignore almost all of your husband's at May 07, 2025 06:00 AM (r9cXI)

54 Waiting for said supervisor to get here

Posted by: Skip at May 07, 2025 06:01 AM (zqCkq)

55 G&R

Ha! We used to joke back in the day about "What to do with those useless PC covers you have lying everywhere."

Posted by: pawn at May 07, 2025 06:02 AM (QB+5g)

56 Waiting for said supervisor to get here
Posted by: Skip

Are you that guy who comes in and straightens up all the messes?

Posted by: Tuna at May 07, 2025 06:04 AM (lJ0H4)

57 Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 07, 2025 06:04 AM (u82oZ)

58 India cut off water to Pakistan. It's a damn shame.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 07, 2025 06:06 AM (VWf79)

59 Prayers up for Jim Sunk New Dawn's wife.

He lost his fight. He was a great person.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 07, 2025 06:07 AM (u82oZ)

60 Microsoft released a 12-in Surface Pro with a Qualcomm CPU inside. While it looks to be a lovely machine, one would have to be highly motivated for specific reasons to opt for this version over the larger 13-in since it's only a half inch smaller in each direction and only about $100 cheaper to start out. Having used a Surface Go for years (I keep it in the glove box of the car) there is value in these minimally size machines.

If something of that size works for you, holding out for a sale in a few months when they can be discounted somewhere between 15 to 20% off of retail gets pretty close to optimal.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at May 07, 2025 06:07 AM (amnH6)

61 Boss Moss

What is Pakistan going to do? They have very few cards. Since it is a military run Islamic state, removing terrorists attacks from their actions seems very improbable.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 07, 2025 06:08 AM (u82oZ)

62 @49/Wolfus: Logitech does make a solid keyboard you can count on. If you choose to spend the extra money on it, you should end up with a keyboard that will last you years.

The last replacement keyboard I needed for my PC, I looked at Logitech, but their offerings had become rather expensive for what I wanted/needed, so I went with an alternative from Redragon (the K-550RGB-1):

https://tinyurl.com/3u2w9pn6

That's been a very solid keyboard for me and I'm quite happy with it. It's stood up well. I insist on a full sized keyboard with the old-school travel on the keys and solid tactile feedback. Modern low profile keys on keyboards, or smaller width keyboards drive me crazy.

I've never looked into Chesona. Look at reviews on Youtube perhaps?

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at May 07, 2025 06:09 AM (O7YUW)

63 Pakistan could target the damns.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 07, 2025 06:10 AM (VWf79)

64 Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 07, 2025 06:04 AM (u82oZ

I'll do by best by God's grace. Thanks for the encouraging daily message, Salty.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 07, 2025 06:11 AM (8uGPf)

65 Speaking of, Walmart is clearing out a lot of their computer stuff. I didn't see many great deals on laptops or desktops but I wasn't really looking, but I did happen to see some great deals on peripherals. Logitech and Razor keyboards and mouses for half or so off. Some routers for half off, too. Worth a pass through the department if you need a new mouse or similar.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Satisfy your boss' every desire, ignore almost all of your husband's at May 07, 2025 06:12 AM (r9cXI)

66 Wolfus, I was suggesting to another moron to spend a bit more and buy a Logitech just yesterday or so.

Unless you have had literal hands-on experience with a Chinese knockoff keyboard, oh boy, I don't think I'd be looking at one. The few I've used have been complete crap. Keyboards are something you can use every few seconds when you're sitting in front of a machine and because of that having a well-designed, well-built keyboard is not the area to be scrimping. I have been using Logitech keyboards for 20 years and they have always provided me with excellent service.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at May 07, 2025 06:14 AM (amnH6)

67 Pakistan could target the damns.
Posted by: Boss Moss

How about targeting the darns?

Posted by: Tuna at May 07, 2025 06:15 AM (lJ0H4)

68 Boss Moss

Flood waters makes for a poor target choice.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 07, 2025 06:15 AM (u82oZ)

69 FenelonSpoke

Hope the Iris are in bloom in that park-like area you walk around.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 07, 2025 06:17 AM (u82oZ)

70 FenelonSpoke

Thank you for that link to Underwood singing.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 07, 2025 06:18 AM (u82oZ)

71 Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 07, 2025 06:17 AM

All kinds of flowers. I think I will stop for a coffee and take a walk there today. It always lifts my spirits. Thanks for asking.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 07, 2025 06:18 AM (8uGPf)

72 G&R,

That K-550RGB-1 keyboard looks nice.

I just trashed my wo old keyboards and bought a pair of Logitech K845s which a a little cheaper but they don't have the aux USB port which is a really nice feature.

Posted by: pawn at May 07, 2025 06:19 AM (QB+5g)

73 Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 07, 2025 06:18 AM (u82oZ

You're welcome, dear. What an amazing voice she has!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 07, 2025 06:19 AM (8uGPf)

74 I think there's a benefit to the cheaper ones if you're carrying it places, though. It would be a lot easier to lose a $30 one vs a $100 one. But if it's mostly going to stick around the house? Get the Logitech and maybe consider an even cheaper than $30 option for when you leave the house.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Satisfy your boss' every desire, ignore almost all of your husband's at May 07, 2025

***
This iMac isn't going anywhere away from my desk; it's a 27" all-in-one model. Yes, I'm inclined to think the Logitech would be a better long-term idea.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 07, 2025 06:19 AM (omVj0)

75 I'll add to the thumbs-up for Logitech keyboards. I type for a living, so when the keys on my laptop began sticking, I bought a Logitech remote, which has never given me any trouble.

Inexpensive, too, which is good. I picked mine up at the local Staples.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at May 07, 2025 06:23 AM (Dg2sF)

76 Oh yeah, absolutely shell out for the logitech. Or the Red Dragon mentioned above. I've heard good things but have no personal experience.

One thing I like a LOT about the older logitech I have is that it has a wheel for the volume control instead of buttons. It's a little thing but it's shocking how much little stuff like that will make a difference. You can find some that have light control dials, too.

BTW, definitely get a backlit keyboard. They may not offer non-lit ones any longer, but you're spending the money already and after you've had one you'll see why.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Satisfy your boss' every desire, ignore almost all of your husband's at May 07, 2025 06:25 AM (r9cXI)

77 I haven't had the Logitech K845s for very long so I can't really give a full recommendation but so far I like them a lot.

And I concur about the value of Logitech keyboards.

One nice extra feature of the mechanical switches is that they stand above the top surface of the keyboard "box and you can keep it clean very easily. I don't know how many times I've chased some debris down the crack between keys into the depths of oblivion.

Posted by: pawn at May 07, 2025 06:27 AM (QB+5g)

78 Pakistan could target the damns.
Posted by: Boss Moss

How about targeting the darns?
Posted by: Tuna at May 07, 2025 06:15 AM

Does one blow those to heck?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 07, 2025 06:27 AM (+tZom)

79 I wasn't thinking about a gaming keyboard. And if it's going to be rechargeable, it needs to be a USB-A connector at the computer end, since the four slots on the back of the iMac are all that older size. USB-C at the keyboard end, USB-A at the computer end.

Amazon has a Logitech MX Keys S for $107, but it's only USB-C at each end of the cable.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 07, 2025 06:29 AM (omVj0)

80 Picking out a CPU for a Windows/Linux desktop computer right now is completely fubar. Intel is a hot mess, AMD Is making some killer products right now that they tend to run a bit on the hot side, and then there's Qualcomm which still has yet to enter the desktop arena. Pixy banging on the AMD CPUs is spot on though that tends to work best for those who are going to build their own boxes. For the rest of us schlubs, you get stuck with Intel's latest release of the same chip they've been releasing for the last 5 years. My new desktop that's arriving today, I'm looking at keeping it for a maximum of 4 to 5 years. Hopefully by then everything will have sorted itself out.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at May 07, 2025 06:30 AM (amnH6)

81 India cut off water to Pakistan. It's a damn shame.
Posted by: Boss Moss

Annual bath canceled.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 07, 2025 06:30 AM (xt/H7)

82 I would submit that gaming keyboards are often the best choice if you can find one that isn't garish. I have no documentation or proof, but I suspect they are built to stand up to abuse/movement better than regular office keyboards and likely have longer "tap" life.

Ergonomics might be a wash, but I bet they've even got the edge there, too. Office workers take breaks. Gamers will sit there for hours.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Satisfy your boss' every desire, ignore almost all of your husband's at May 07, 2025 06:32 AM (r9cXI)

83 Pakistan could target the damns.
Posted by: Boss Moss

How about targeting the darns?
Posted by: Tuna at May 07, 2025 06:15 AM

Does one blow those to heck?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState

We're right here, you know.

Posted by: Smithereens at May 07, 2025 06:32 AM (xt/H7)

84 BTW, definitely get a backlit keyboard. They may not offer non-lit ones any longer, but you're spending the money already and after you've had one you'll see why.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie

+1. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

Posted by: rickb223 at May 07, 2025 06:33 AM (xt/H7)

85 Amazon has a Logitech MX Keys S for $107, but it's only USB-C at each end of the cable.Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius,

If I remember correctly, you're using an older Apple machine. I have no idea what connectors you need for a keyboard on that box. One thought, is to buy adapters that goes say from USB-C to USB-A If that is the issue. It seems to me, that Apple machines have keyboard requirements that differ from PC requirements somewhat. I don't know if that is exactly true or not, might be something you might want to investigate.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at May 07, 2025 06:34 AM (amnH6)

86 Pakistan could target the damns.
Posted by: Boss Moss

How about targeting the darns?
Posted by: Tuna at May 07, 2025 06:15 AM

Does one blow those to heck?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState

We're right here, you know.
Posted by: Smithereens

Welcome to Kingdom Come.

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87 BTW, definitely get a backlit keyboard. They may not offer non-lit ones any longer, but you're spending the money already and after you've had one you'll see why.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie

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Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at May 07, 2025 06:34 AM (amnH6)

88 Interestingly enough, gaming computers work the same way. If you're not playing video-intensive games you probably don't need the video card, but computer manufacturers focus almost entirely on energy saving and battery life. If you want performance and the high performing CPUs you almost have to look for gaming-specific systems. Otherwise you're going to end up with some "U" or other energy saving CPU in the system you just spent $1000 on.

If battery life if what you need then that's fine. But if performance is what you're after that's not what the manufacturers are selling you.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Satisfy your boss' every desire, ignore almost all of your husband's at May 07, 2025 06:35 AM (r9cXI)

89 Pakistan could target the damns.
Posted by: Boss Moss

How about targeting the darns?
Posted by: Tuna at May 07, 2025 06:15 AM

Does one blow those to heck?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState

We're right here, you know.
Posted by: Smithereens

Go full California on the dams.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 07, 2025 06:36 AM (u82oZ)

90 Mornin', NaCly!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 07, 2025 06:36 AM (+tZom)

91 RedMindBlueState

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I get to take Kaylee the Calico Kitty Cat (the cutest little cat of them all) to the vet this morning on a grand adventure. She's been throwing up A LOT lately, so I think she has another throat infection or something. She tends to get those at least once a year.

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Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 07, 2025 06:40 AM (GlyvH)

93 mornin yall

"Elon Musk, Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg and Sam Altman agree : the days of smartphones are numbered"

Implants, smart glasses, and digital tattoos are the future. Not my future, but somebody's.

Posted by: fd at May 07, 2025 06:40 AM (vFG9F)

94 19 Philistines upon you, America:

https://tinyurl.com/yzpa7rew

Believe them when they tell you who they are.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey,
----------------------

Alcatraz, Siberia, the Russian front, Pakistan, Iran, no, no, no,
Russia, Putin will know what to do with them. (let them fight in Ukraine)

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 07, 2025 06:41 AM (PB44O)

95 Alteria Pilgram, do photo processing programs use the video card for normal non-AI stuff now?

I know video tools do, which makes sense (vidcoder is an outstanding free or maybe shareware converter if anyone needs one BTW), but I didn't know if the companies had figured out how to use or share the GPU power for big non-AI photo processing jobs.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Satisfy your boss' every desire, ignore almost all of your husband's at May 07, 2025 06:42 AM (r9cXI)

96 If I remember correctly, you're using an older Apple machine. I have no idea what connectors you need for a keyboard on that box. One thought, is to buy adapters that goes say from USB-C to USB-A If that is the issue. It seems to me, that Apple machines have keyboard requirements that differ from PC requirements somewhat. I don't know if that is exactly true or not, might be something you might want to investigate.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at May 07, 2025

***
Turns out I have a USB-C to A cable already, so that should be no problem. Yes, Mac keyboards have several keys on the first row, Control, Option, and Command, as well as an FN (function) key. I haven't used the latter much, but If the original keyboard came with it, I expect I'd better have it.

Here's one: https://tinyurl.com/wbsy3cj3 For $105, seems pretty good.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 07, 2025 06:42 AM (omVj0)

97 23 Sometimes I feel annoyed at having to "Verify I'm human" to a machine in order to get a tinyurl code.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 07, 2025 05:05 AM (YguxL)
---

I don't mind a quick once. But YouTube, well, if it gets to 5 I quit.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 07, 2025 06:43 AM (PB44O)

98 Keyboards are a fascinating topic. Yes, I have issues.

To my understanding we have two choices. Mechanical switch, keyboards and membrane switch keyboards. The membrane switch keyboards are low travel and basically like laptop keyboards. Mechanical switch keyboards are like the old IBMs and go clackity clickety clackity clackity. You can spend the rest of your trying to sort out which switch to use.

I like membrane keyboards anymore because they're quiet and most likely because that's what I've been used to because of laptops.

In the far distant past I used IBM keyboards and when I had to go to membrane keyboards I nearly had a fit and died. But I survived. Gaming keyboards today tend to be mechanical switched and can cost you hundreds and hundreds of dollars.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at May 07, 2025 06:43 AM (amnH6)

99 "Elon Musk, Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg and Sam Altman agree : the days of smartphones are numbered"

Implants, smart glasses, and digital tattoos are the future. Not my future, but somebody's.
Posted by: fd at May 07, 2025 06:40 AM (vFG9F)
----
Huh. It's like they've all been reading Peter F. Hamilton's Commonwealth Series. All of those things are featured in his books which were written before smartphones were all the rage. Though smartphone-type technology still exists in the form of a portable "array" that accesses the unisphere.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 07, 2025 06:44 AM (GlyvH)

100 Morning, 'rons and 'ettes.

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 07, 2025 06:45 AM (hoCmQ)

101 I don't mind a quick once. But YouTube, well, if it gets to 5 I quit.
Posted by: Braenyard
-

If it's an option for you, I use brave and havent seen one in so long I cant remember when it last happened. And I run a VPN.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Satisfy your boss' every desire, ignore almost all of your husband's at May 07, 2025 06:46 AM (r9cXI)

102 Here's one: https://tinyurl.com/wbsy3cj3 For $105, seems pretty good. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

That looks pretty good. I've been using some variation of that Logitech keyboard for the last 10 years without issue. For some reason Logitech discontinued mine mine and didn't replace it with an updated version. I'm kind of screwed. Something like that one is what I'll probably end up with. That looks pretty reason

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at May 07, 2025 06:47 AM (amnH6)

103 India paid a visit to Pawkeestain last night.

https://tinyurl.com/yz6xpjfa

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 07, 2025 06:48 AM (PB44O)

104 Hey Perfessor. A few months ago several people on the book thread recommended "The Last One At The Wedding" so I got on the wait list for it via the phone app my local library uses and promptly forgot about it.

Then a few days ago it popped up as available. I started listening to it and am enjoying it very much.
Thought you'd like to know.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 07, 2025 06:48 AM (dg+HA)

105 "Perfessor" Squirrel

Smart phones seem to be grafted directly to the hands of students. It is a strong addiction.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 07, 2025 06:49 AM (u82oZ)

106 Christian Post has an article on the summer show of "Jesus Christ Superstar" with Cynthia Erivo (sp?) the woman from "Wicked" as Jesus. Why would any Christian go to see a woman playing Jesus? . It's obviously being done is a thumb in the nose to Christians.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 07, 2025 06:50 AM (b2vtS)

107 AP,

Haha, you typed 256 instead of 265 earlier.

I find this humorous.

Posted by: pawn at May 07, 2025 06:51 AM (QB+5g)

108 Smart phones seem to be grafted directly to the hands of students. It is a strong addiction.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 07, 2025 06:49 AM (u82oZ)
----
Sadly, yes. It's impacting the performance of our student workers in my office.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 07, 2025 06:51 AM (GlyvH)

109 Implants, smart glasses, and digital tattoos are the future. Not my future, but somebody's.
Posted by: fd

Hell no does not even begin to cover my utter refusal to do any of that. I don't care if it makes me the Old Man Yelling At Clouds to the youngsters.

Posted by: NR Pax at May 07, 2025 06:51 AM (jjoN6)

110 Indian Army Recruiting, hope Hegseth sees this.

https://tinyurl.com/233saxa5

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 07, 2025 06:51 AM (PB44O)

111 Hey Perfessor. A few months ago several people on the book thread recommended "The Last One At The Wedding" so I got on the wait list for it via the phone app my local library uses and promptly forgot about it.

Then a few days ago it popped up as available. I started listening to it and am enjoying it very much.
Thought you'd like to know.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 07, 2025 06:48 AM (dg+HA)
---
Cool! Moron Recommendations are an excellent way to find something to read! (My next book is already lined up due to a Moron Recommendation from Jim SND, RIP)

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 07, 2025 06:52 AM (GlyvH)

112 @72/pawn:

"That K-550RGB-1 keyboard looks nice."

It feels really nice too, and it's stood up to the abuse of a strong keystroke touchtypist (me) for 2+ years. I'm pretty happy with this purchase."

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at May 07, 2025 06:52 AM (O7YUW)

113 *I find this humorous.*

Almost as humorous as getting RFK Jr.'s initials wrong when copying a headline.

Posted by: Pedantic jerk at May 07, 2025 06:53 AM (dg+HA)

114 Alteria Pilgram, do photo processing programs use the video card for normal non-AI stuff now?

I know video tools do, which makes sense (vidcoder is an outstanding free or maybe shareware converter if anyone needs one BTW), but I didn't know if the companies had figured out how to use or share the GPU power for big non-AI photo processing jobs. Posted by: Boron Cobbie

Yes they do use the video card and have done so for a very long time. The good news here is you don't need crazy expensive video cards to make everything work well for still photography processing. Given that AI is penetrating everything in computing right now, I expect the video card demands for still photography processing to go up as time goes on, but I doubt it will ever be as intensive as you need for video processing. My new machine's coming with a 4060 in it; It's going to run circles around what I have right now. For the rest of the video card world. Yeah not so much.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at May 07, 2025 06:53 AM (amnH6)

115 FenelonSpoke

They are too cowardly to do Mohammad as a woman.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 07, 2025 06:53 AM (u82oZ)

116 FenelonSpoke

I have a phone number that presumedly goes to your smart phone. I want to send a picture to FenelonSpouse. Can I do that?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 07, 2025 06:54 AM (u82oZ)

117 AP, Haha, you typed 256 instead of 265 earlier. I find this humorous. Posted by: pawn

It's a good thing I can't get sued for typos otherwise I'd be in prison for life. This is the one area of my life where I am notorious.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at May 07, 2025 06:56 AM (amnH6)

118 Sorry, Elon, Bill and Mark- if it requires that I have some sort of implant or googles or digital tattoos to talk to people or look up info instead of using a smartphone or "normal" laptop, I just won't talk to people and won't look at anything and will sit silently and sullenly at home.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 07, 2025 06:56 AM (b2vtS)

119
The Binford Smoke-a-lator 6000. For all your papacy selection needs.

Remember: if it doesn't say Binford on it, somebody else makes it.

Posted by: Tim The ToolmanTaylor at May 07, 2025 06:57 AM (dg+HA)

120 Braenyard

That is a good ad. Seems to leave out the Chinese attacks near Tibet. But perfect for Pakistan.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 07, 2025 06:57 AM (u82oZ)

121

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 07, 2025 06:58 AM (5hfjS)

122 Thought they beat the Chinese all the way home with bamboo sticks. What did I miss?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 07, 2025 06:59 AM (PB44O)

123 121

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 07, 2025 06:58 AM
----
You gotta start in the morning if you're gonna drink all day.

Posted by: Old Lady Emhoff at May 07, 2025 07:00 AM (dg+HA)

124 Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 07, 2025 06:54 AM (u82oZ

Yes. Please do.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 07, 2025 07:00 AM (42Vb+)

125 Actually, I amend that. I won't sit sullenly at home. I'll be very happy reading actual books and talking to people in real life instead of being some human/ machine tech clone.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 07, 2025 07:02 AM (42Vb+)

126 Smart phones seem to be grafted directly to the hands of students. It is a strong addiction.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 07, 2025 06:49 AM (u82oZ)
----
Sadly, yes. It's impacting the performance of our student workers in my office.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

A few years ago some nitwit of that tender age was so glued to his phone while walking down the sidewalk he walked directly into my car as I was slowly backing out of my apartment building garage. He hit it hard enough so he knocked himself down. I found this quite amusing. He didn't find it amusing at all.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at May 07, 2025 07:02 AM (amnH6)

127 Christian Post has an article on the summer show of "Jesus Christ Superstar" with Cynthia Erivo (sp?) the woman from "Wicked" as Jesus. Why would any Christian go to see a woman playing Jesus? . It's obviously being done is a thumb in the nose to Christians.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
--

4chan summed it up fairly well:

"Your enemy doesn't want gay pride parades in your street, drag queens in your libraries, your son transgender, your parents dead from opioids and cancer, your daughter race mixing, your meat replaced with bugs all while your media laughs at you because they think it's for anyone's benefit. They want it because they know you don't want it, but cant stop them. They want to humiliate you. There isn't any other reason."

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Satisfy your boss' every desire, ignore almost all of your husband's at May 07, 2025 07:03 AM (r9cXI)

128 Nood thread

Posted by: Beeman at May 07, 2025 07:03 AM (Zu1Zu)

129 G'mornin' everyone!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 07, 2025 07:03 AM (/Ghsb)

130 Scientists find that ice is rebounding at both poles. More evidence that the climate changes.

Posted by: fd at May 07, 2025 07:03 AM (vFG9F)

131
Good morning, Hordians. Diana told me at 3:30 this morning that wanted to go out. Daddy rose from his bed of pain to accommodate her. After she attended to her needs, I really had to let her sister Rosalind out. Too early to get up, too late to go back to sleep.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 07, 2025 07:04 AM (QnmlO)

132 Damn, I must be old. I was wondering why AP was buying a 256 based computer. Actually I was wondering why and if you could even find one.

This is why I found it humorous.

Posted by: pawn at May 07, 2025 07:06 AM (QB+5g)

133 Yes they do use the video card and have done so for a very long time.

-

Thanks. I've been out of the bleeding-edge world for a while. I think my owned copy of Adobe is maybe CS6 from 2012 or so.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Satisfy your boss' every desire, ignore almost all of your husband's at May 07, 2025 07:06 AM (r9cXI)

134 My main keyboard is a Logitech G510S 18 macro key keyboard, I've had it easily over 10 years.

I didn't get it for gaming like most people do I got it for Excel, at the time at my job I became the Excel/VBA guy, and having that many one key macro was a G-d Send.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 07, 2025 07:10 AM (XV/Pl)

135 " It's obviously being done is a thumb in the nose to Christians."

Because if they did that with Muhammed, they would be killed.

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Wish I had gone to a MoMe. I envy all of those who knew him.

Raising a glass to you, Jim!

*pours bourbon*

Cheers!

We will miss you down here, if only for a short while.

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137 I ordered the Logitech I linked to above. Thanks for the advice, all.

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