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Trump: I'll Stop Bombing the Houthis Because They Called Me Up and Totally "Capitulated"
I continue to not understand the hardcore Ron Paul anti-interventionists. These terrorists have been lobbing missiles at Western ships, including US ships, for years, and yet the bleat from the Tucker Carlson Chorus is that we just need to let them blow up our ships. To do otherwise is to, as always, "risk World War III."
Remember when the neocons used to tell us that we had to bomb this country or that one or else we risk World War III? Well, the born-again paleocons now claim that we must not do anything to any terrorist country, or else we risk World War III. I think there's an explanation for this: This isn't about being anti-interventionism, this is about being anti-Israel and... maybe more than that. Because they only seem to start squawking when we bomb someone who is bombing Israel. The Houthis recently shot missiles at Israel's main airport, and Israel has responded by bombing Yemen's main sea port and then the main air port. Israel counter-attacked a country that will not stop launching missiles at them, and I'm very sure this is somehow Israel's fault. And I'm sure Tucker Carlson has a problem with that, even though it didn't involve the US. I'm sure he's just worried that the Jews he feels such pungent antipathy for are "risking World War III." Can you get me a beer while you're up? If you don't you're Risking World War Three. Weird he never thinks that Iran or its many, many terrorist proxy armies are Risking World War Three. Only Israel, and the US, if the US sides with Israel against terrorists. The Jerusalem Post:The Israeli military carried out an airstrike on Yemen's main airport in Sanaa on Tuesday, its second attack in two days on Iran-aligned Houthi rebels after a surge in tensions between the group and Israel. Three people were killed in the strike, according to Houthi-run Al-Masirah TV. Israel warned people to leave the area around Sanaa International Airport before Tuesday's attack, which it said targeted Houthi infrastructure and "fully disabled the airport". Witnesses later reported four strikes in the capital. Tensions have been high since the Gaza war began, but have risen further since a Houthi missile landed near Israel's Ben Gurion Airport on Sunday, prompting Israeli airstrikes on Yemen's Hodeidah port on Monday. "A short while ago, IDF (Israel Defence Forces) fighter jets struck and dismantled Houthi terrorist infrastructure at the main airport in Sanaa, fully disabling the airport," the Israeli military said. "The strike was carried out in response to the attack launched by the Houthi terrorist regime against Ben Gurion Airport. Flight runways, aircraft, and infrastructure at the airport were struck." Three airport sources told Reuters that the strikes targeted three civilian airplanes, the departures hall, the airport runway and a military air base under Houthi control.They can say that, but Yemen's foreign minister has announced that he wants a ceasefire:
The Israeli military said the airport had been "a central hub for the Houthi terrorist regime to transfer weapons and operatives." In a statement carried by al-Masirah, the Houthis said:
"The operations of our armed forces will continue and the support by Yemen to Palestine will only end with the end of the aggression and siege against Gaza."
Presumably the government of Yemen will shut down or at least curb the terrorists it's currently tolerating. If not, presumably we'll start bombing them again.
Badr Albusaidi
@badralbusaidi Following recent discussions and contacts conducted by the Sultanate of Oman with the United States and the relevant authorities in Sana'a, in the Republic of Yemen, with the aim of de-escalation, efforts have resulted in a ceasefire agreement between the two sides. In the future, neither side will target the other, including American vessels, in the Red Sea and Bab al-Mandab Strait, ensuring freedom of navigation and the smooth flow of international commercial shipping. The Sultanate of Oman expresses its gratitude to both parties for their constructive approach that led to this welcome outcome, and hopes that it will lead to further progress on many regional issues towards achieving justice, peace, and prosperity for all.
Karoline Leavitt
@PressSec Massive WIN. President Trump promised to restore the freedom of navigation in the Red Sea, and he used great American strength to swiftly deliver on that promise. The world is safer with President Trump in charge.
Arthur KimesSo I don't get it: How would not counter-attacking these terrorists have benefited the US? It would have created more acts of war -- more missiles lobbed at cities and airports, and more Western ships being attacked by Houthis -- not fewer. But whatever. We're all terrorists now, I guess. And we're all Code Pink. The Horseshoe Theory is proven. The fringe right has become the far left of the 90s and 2000s.
@ComradeArthur "President Trump ordered the US to start bombing the Houthis on March 15, 2025, when the United States launched a series of airstrikes across Yemen targeting the Houthis." *That* didn't take long. Biden barely made an effort. cc: @AceofSpadesHQ
BREAKING: President Trump just announced that the United States will stop the bombings of the Houthis in Yemen, effective IMMEDIATELY, after they called and conceded defeat.
— George (@BehizyTweets) May 6, 2025
"The Houthis have announced to us at least that they don't want to fight anymore. They just don't want to… pic.twitter.com/J2H5QchqMC
Khamenei is sweating.
— 𝗡𝗶𝗼𝗵 𝗕𝗲𝗿𝗴 ♛ ✡︎ (@NiohBerg) May 5, 2025
The distance from Israel to Iran is shorter than to Yemen.
And the regime has no air defences.
Tick tock.
pic.twitter.com/98sjIMH8jf
This used to be the Hudaydah port in Yemen, their largest Red Sea port. It's all in flames after Israel 🇮🇱 dropped 50 massive bombs on it, in response to the missile they fired on Israel's main airport.
— Dr. Eli David (@DrEliDavid) May 5, 2025
Massive FAFO. pic.twitter.com/VaBMyOjxqF
Comments
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Prima Moronus
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 06, 2025 03:33 PM (u73oe)
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Called em
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 06, 2025 03:33 PM (u73oe)
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There IS a middle ground between constant interventionism and all out isolationism espoused by many here.
Oh, and TENTH
Oh, and TENTH
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 06, 2025 03:34 PM (tXUHX)
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Tucker is an odd duck. Is he getting worse by the day?
He just did a podcast with one of the Ben & Jerry weirdos.
Tucker is an odd duck. Is he getting worse by the day?
He just did a podcast with one of the Ben & Jerry weirdos.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 06, 2025 03:35 PM (No9Bj)
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Yemen attacked US ships. Of course we should respond. This is a no-brainer Ace.
Posted by: tubal at May 06, 2025 03:36 PM (PCK5/)
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Disagree with your top line - best guess right now is not that the Houthi talked to Trump, but that someone in Tehran told Trump that they were going to tell the Houthi to cool it.
The Houthi leadership may not know about it yet.
The Houthi leadership may not know about it yet.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 06, 2025 03:37 PM (uWKK8)
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There’s not a single benefit to the United States to be screwing around over there. I do hope the ceasefire collapses and the fighting resumes.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 06, 2025 03:37 PM (l3YAf)
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>>>Yemen attacked US ships. Of course we should respond. This is a no-brainer Ace.
I agree, but this is now controversial among the Tucker Carlson followers. It's Risking World War Three.
But the Muslims bombing us every other day is just fine.
I agree, but this is now controversial among the Tucker Carlson followers. It's Risking World War Three.
But the Muslims bombing us every other day is just fine.
Posted by: ace at May 06, 2025 03:38 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: Lance McCormick at May 06, 2025 03:38 PM (1Idb6)
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Tucker has become a douche-bag.
Posted by: SteveOReno, I proudly self-identify as a Moron at May 06, 2025 03:38 PM (2sCft)
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As far as the Houthis are concerned, WWIII already happened and they lost.
Posted by: El Mariachi at May 06, 2025 03:38 PM (D1vbu)
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When a mosquito stings you in the ass, you crush the motherfucker with an anvil. No pity, no remorse, no fear. The mosquito won't bother you again. The same principle holds true for the "Houthis" (whatever the fuck these vermin are).
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 06, 2025 03:38 PM (iFTx/)
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Burning fire of FAFO
Posted by: Zeera at May 06, 2025 03:38 PM (IriSu)
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America should seek to avoid military conflicts.
But
When one starts we should *ruthlessly* seek to win at as quickly and with as little cost in American lives and treasure as possible.
Generally that will be bombing the military AND civilian infrastructure of the aggressor. And...destroying the ports of a country engaged in piracy is frankly so obvious a solution to this it would take a modern DoD official to not understand why that would work...
But
When one starts we should *ruthlessly* seek to win at as quickly and with as little cost in American lives and treasure as possible.
Generally that will be bombing the military AND civilian infrastructure of the aggressor. And...destroying the ports of a country engaged in piracy is frankly so obvious a solution to this it would take a modern DoD official to not understand why that would work...
Posted by: 18-1 at May 06, 2025 03:39 PM (t0Rmr)
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But the Muslims bombing us every other day is just fine.
Posted by: ace at May 06, 2025 03:38 PM (KRtlO)
Where were the bombing “us”?
Posted by: ace at May 06, 2025 03:38 PM (KRtlO)
Where were the bombing “us”?
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 06, 2025 03:39 PM (l3YAf)
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btw, is Everyone on Twitter now a fake "expert" on Houthis?
They never heard of "houthis" until last week.
btw, is Everyone on Twitter now a fake "expert" on Houthis?
They never heard of "houthis" until last week.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 06, 2025 03:39 PM (No9Bj)
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This used to be the Hudaydah port in Yemen, their largest Red Sea port. It's all in flames after Israel 🇮🇱 dropped 50 massive bombs on it, in response to the missile they fired on Israel's main airport.
Massive FAFO.
It was like millions of dates suddenly cried out in terror. Well, it wasn't like that, it was that.
Massive FAFO.
It was like millions of dates suddenly cried out in terror. Well, it wasn't like that, it was that.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 06, 2025 03:40 PM (s8j++)
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8 >>>Yemen attacked US ships. Of course we should respond. This is a no-brainer Ace.
I agree, but this is now controversial among the Tucker Carlson followers. It's Risking World War Three.
But the Muslims bombing us every other day is just fine.
Posted by: ace at May 06, 2025 03:38 PM (KRtlO)
Tit-For-Tat is a Measured Response in my thinking… don’t start nothin’ won’t be nothin’….
I agree, but this is now controversial among the Tucker Carlson followers. It's Risking World War Three.
But the Muslims bombing us every other day is just fine.
Posted by: ace at May 06, 2025 03:38 PM (KRtlO)
Tit-For-Tat is a Measured Response in my thinking… don’t start nothin’ won’t be nothin’….
Posted by: tubal at May 06, 2025 03:40 PM (PCK5/)
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I hope Chandler Bing is ok. Any word on if 1 Yemen Way, Yemen was hit?
Posted by: BruceWayne at May 06, 2025 03:40 PM (MGB5H)
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Did Tucker contract a brain worm? What a disappointment.
Posted by: Piper at May 06, 2025 03:40 PM (pZEOD)
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9 howzabout Congress vote on a declaration of war sometime?
is that too much to ask?
Posted by: Lance McCormick at May 06, 2025 03:38 PM (1Idb6)
Hasn’t happened since 1941, and we’ve been at war almost continuously in the 84 years since.
is that too much to ask?
Posted by: Lance McCormick at May 06, 2025 03:38 PM (1Idb6)
Hasn’t happened since 1941, and we’ve been at war almost continuously in the 84 years since.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 06, 2025 03:40 PM (uWKK8)
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I personally would keep pounding the $hit out of their stuff just like we did with iran back in 1988. Sink everything they have and destroy all of the bases we know about, that's what made iran stop back then.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 06, 2025 03:41 PM (e5NfL)
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Ig you pay zero to watch movies and they place a tariff on it, how much is that.
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 06, 2025 03:41 PM (VWf79)
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Ron Paul had some good ideas, but they were leavened with more than a soupcon of crazy. Rand Paul is similar. He often says things I like, but then carries his ideas to an absurd extreme.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 06, 2025 03:41 PM (s8j++)
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Did Tucker contract a brain worm? What a disappointment.
Posted by: Piper at May 06, 2025 03:40 PM (pZEOD)
Jewish weasels ripped his flesh
Posted by: Piper at May 06, 2025 03:40 PM (pZEOD)
Jewish weasels ripped his flesh
Posted by: Or something. I dunno, he got weird. at May 06, 2025 03:42 PM (TbWk/)
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By the way this shows the fraud of how we fought the WoT where we would occasionally blow up their stuff...then immediately rebuild it for them.
Why the hell wouldn't you keep up the fight against the infidel if they are going to give you money and resources for doing so?
Why the hell wouldn't you keep up the fight against the infidel if they are going to give you money and resources for doing so?
Posted by: 18-1 at May 06, 2025 03:42 PM (t0Rmr)
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There’s not a single benefit to the United States to be screwing around over there. I do hope the ceasefire collapses and the fighting resumes.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director
Dude, it's an important shipping route. Of course it's to our benefit to take out those muzzie savages trying to shut it down.
So you just like chaos for the sake of chaos?
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director
Dude, it's an important shipping route. Of course it's to our benefit to take out those muzzie savages trying to shut it down.
So you just like chaos for the sake of chaos?
Posted by: Bulg at May 06, 2025 03:42 PM (77rzZ)
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I'm gonna be lazy, what exactly did Tucker say?
That is, I'll say, I don't care for the clever flirting with antisemitism, even when dressing it up with "I'm just asking questions about why we always support Israel."
Like Candace. Maybe she is reaching blacks, getting them to vote Republican.
But at the expense of importing their Louis Farrakan bullshit? No.
That is, I'll say, I don't care for the clever flirting with antisemitism, even when dressing it up with "I'm just asking questions about why we always support Israel."
Like Candace. Maybe she is reaching blacks, getting them to vote Republican.
But at the expense of importing their Louis Farrakan bullshit? No.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 06, 2025 03:42 PM (T/tp/)
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 06, 2025 03:42 PM (VNX3d)
Posted by: ace at May 06, 2025 03:42 PM (KRtlO)
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'Can you get me a beer while you're up? If you don't you're Risking World War Three."
Ace just saved us all time and tuition for our Diplomacy PhD.
More Chardonnay?
Ace just saved us all time and tuition for our Diplomacy PhD.
More Chardonnay?
Posted by: Deplorable Minion at May 06, 2025 03:42 PM (QSrLX)
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I saw Houthi and The Blowed Up Fish open for The Gin Blossoms at the Hard Rock Casino in Miami Beach in 1995.
Posted by: Jon Secada at May 06, 2025 03:42 PM (979V4)
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Tit-For-Tat is a Measured Response in my thinking… don’t start nothin’ won’t be nothin’….
Tit for tat is a fool's game. Crushing overresponse for tat is the way to go.
Tit for tat is a fool's game. Crushing overresponse for tat is the way to go.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 06, 2025 03:43 PM (s8j++)
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Ron Paul had some good ideas, but they were leavened with more than a soupcon of crazy. Rand Paul is similar. He often says things I like, but then carries his ideas to an absurd extreme.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 06, 2025 03:41 PM (s8j++)
I generally like Rand. But as I have told many people, he just has a little too much of his daddy in him.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 06, 2025 03:41 PM (s8j++)
I generally like Rand. But as I have told many people, he just has a little too much of his daddy in him.
Posted by: BruceWayne at May 06, 2025 03:43 PM (MGB5H)
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Has Iran been urging the Houthis on with promises of vengeance against the 2 Great Satans?
Sounds like the Houthis were certain Steiner would come 😀
Sounds like the Houthis were certain Steiner would come 😀
Posted by: kallisto at May 06, 2025 03:43 PM (pAAcS)
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Can I get the people that want us to "stop supporting Israel" to say the same thing about Britain, Germany and France?
Because honestly? I'd like to stop ALL foreign aid. Sorry we are $37T in debt and out of money.
Oh, and our number one expense? NATO.
Because honestly? I'd like to stop ALL foreign aid. Sorry we are $37T in debt and out of money.
Oh, and our number one expense? NATO.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 06, 2025 03:43 PM (t0Rmr)
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Did Tucker contract a brain worm?
Posted by: Piper
Caught it from RFK Jr.? Wonder what those two have been up to?
Posted by: Piper
Caught it from RFK Jr.? Wonder what those two have been up to?
Posted by: Bulg at May 06, 2025 03:43 PM (77rzZ)
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33 Tit-For-Tat is a Measured Response in my thinking… don’t start nothin’ won’t be nothin’….
Tit for tat is a fool's game. Crushing overresponse for tat is the way to go.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 06, 2025 03:43 PM (s8j++)
I always advocate for bigger Tits, Archimedes…
Tit for tat is a fool's game. Crushing overresponse for tat is the way to go.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 06, 2025 03:43 PM (s8j++)
I always advocate for bigger Tits, Archimedes…
Posted by: tubal at May 06, 2025 03:44 PM (PCK5/)
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>> When a mosquito stings you in the ass, you crush the motherfucker with an anvil.
An anvil isn’t a good way to smash a mosquito, tho, if we’re being honest. Kinda unwieldy.
An anvil isn’t a good way to smash a mosquito, tho, if we’re being honest. Kinda unwieldy.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 06, 2025 03:44 PM (l3YAf)
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>>> I think there's an explanation for this: This isn't about being anti-interventionism, this is about being anti-Israel and... maybe more than that. Because they only seem to start squawking when we bomb someone who is bombing Israel.
Is that what you really think, ace? All of us who look at Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya and all of the rest of our middle east adventurism and say "yeah, let's not do that" are REALLY motivated by disliking Jews, which we transfer on to the state of Israel?
In other words, if Israel didn't exist, we'd all be cheering for the constant bombing in the middle east?
Or is it possible that the consistent position that Republicans ALWAYS held prior to the Cold War and the Rise of the Neo-Cons was "hey, let's do our damnedest to stay out of these constant conflicts that happen all over the globe", and that applies to every region of the globe?
Is that what you really think, ace? All of us who look at Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya and all of the rest of our middle east adventurism and say "yeah, let's not do that" are REALLY motivated by disliking Jews, which we transfer on to the state of Israel?
In other words, if Israel didn't exist, we'd all be cheering for the constant bombing in the middle east?
Or is it possible that the consistent position that Republicans ALWAYS held prior to the Cold War and the Rise of the Neo-Cons was "hey, let's do our damnedest to stay out of these constant conflicts that happen all over the globe", and that applies to every region of the globe?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 06, 2025 03:44 PM (uCjyK)
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29 What was that saying?
Son, you don't start a fight. If you're in a fight, though, finish it.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf
======
Jacksonian response which I agree with.
"Don't want nothin', Don't start nothin'"
Proportional responses only apply to domestic situations, not to enemies abroad.
Son, you don't start a fight. If you're in a fight, though, finish it.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf
======
Jacksonian response which I agree with.
"Don't want nothin', Don't start nothin'"
Proportional responses only apply to domestic situations, not to enemies abroad.
Posted by: whig at May 06, 2025 03:44 PM (ctrM5)
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>>>btw, is Everyone on Twitter now a fake "expert" on Houthis?
They never heard of "houthis" until last week.
i've heard of them for five or six years. This isn't new. They're constantly shooting missiles at ships and sending terror-pirates to capture them.
They never heard of "houthis" until last week.
i've heard of them for five or six years. This isn't new. They're constantly shooting missiles at ships and sending terror-pirates to capture them.
Posted by: ace at May 06, 2025 03:44 PM (KRtlO)
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When a mosquito stings you in the ass, you crush the motherfucker with an anvil. No pity, no remorse, no fear. The mosquito won't bother you again. The same principle holds true for the "Houthis" (whatever the fuck these vermin are).
Posted by: Elric Blade
Can't I just swat it with my hand? Or wear pants?
Posted by: Elric Blade
Can't I just swat it with my hand? Or wear pants?
Posted by: Moron Analyst at May 06, 2025 03:44 PM (JCZqz)
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What was that saying?
Son, you don't start a fight. If you're in a fight, though, finish it.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 06, 2025 03:42 PM (VNX3d)
Don't throw the first punch, but be sure you throw the last one.
Son, you don't start a fight. If you're in a fight, though, finish it.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 06, 2025 03:42 PM (VNX3d)
Don't throw the first punch, but be sure you throw the last one.
Posted by: BruceWayne at May 06, 2025 03:44 PM (MGB5H)
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30 >>>Where were the bombing “us”?
our ships?
We can't keep telling you this. Read the f***ing post!
our ships?
We can't keep telling you this. Read the f***ing post!
Posted by: Archimedes at May 06, 2025 03:44 PM (s8j++)
Posted by: America First at May 06, 2025 03:44 PM (n6u17)
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I guess we need to address the elephant in the room and talk about how JD Vance seemed to really be against this action also.
To me, it’s a no brainer and basically zero blowback concern.
To me, it’s a no brainer and basically zero blowback concern.
Posted by: Maroon at May 06, 2025 03:44 PM (JX5lq)
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Tit for tat is a fool's game. Crushing overresponse for tat is the way to go.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 06, 2025 03:43 PM (s8j++)
This.
The goal of war isn't gentle persuasion. The goal of war is to inflict so much pain on your enemy that he will prefer whatever your terms are to continuing the conflict.
Tit for tat is a fool's game. Crushing overresponse for tat is the way to go.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 06, 2025 03:43 PM (s8j++)
This.
The goal of war isn't gentle persuasion. The goal of war is to inflict so much pain on your enemy that he will prefer whatever your terms are to continuing the conflict.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 06, 2025 03:44 PM (t0Rmr)
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OK so the Israelis take out the main port and main airport and Trump takes the win. OK.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 06, 2025 03:45 PM (RIvkX)
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I generally like Rand. But as I have told many people, he just has a little too much of his daddy in him.
Posted by: BruceWayne at May 06, 2025 03:43 PM (MGB5H)
I generally dislike Rand because he has too little of his daddy.
Posted by: BruceWayne at May 06, 2025 03:43 PM (MGB5H)
I generally dislike Rand because he has too little of his daddy.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 06, 2025 03:45 PM (l3YAf)
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 06, 2025 03:45 PM (No9Bj)
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"Smart diplomacy" is America and her allies having to take it up the ass from every pissant terrorist group on the planet without protest or reprisal. If that's smart, then I want to see some tarded diplomacy.
Posted by: Or smart bombs at May 06, 2025 03:45 PM (TbWk/)
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No one "speaks for the Houthis" anymore than the Somali pirates had some sort of structure. But if you bomb them until the rubble bounces, and puppet masters in Iran are ready to play nice for a while....
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 06, 2025 03:45 PM (wBaIH)
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We can't keep telling you this. Read the f***ing post!
The AoS style guide says that in every thread at least one person must fail to read the post and another must remind him to do so.
So thanks for both of you doing your part!
The AoS style guide says that in every thread at least one person must fail to read the post and another must remind him to do so.
So thanks for both of you doing your part!
Posted by: 18-1 at May 06, 2025 03:46 PM (t0Rmr)
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i've heard of them for five or six years. This isn't new. They're constantly shooting missiles at ships and sending terror-pirates to capture them.
Posted by: ace
I didn't mean You!
i've heard of them for five or six years. This isn't new. They're constantly shooting missiles at ships and sending terror-pirates to capture them.
Posted by: ace
I didn't mean You!
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 06, 2025 03:46 PM (No9Bj)
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>>>OK so the Israelis take out the main port and main airport and Trump takes the win. OK.
well he's been airstriking these savages too.
well he's been airstriking these savages too.
Posted by: ace at May 06, 2025 03:46 PM (KRtlO)
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Oman...sounds like a dirty word...
Posted by: runner at May 06, 2025 03:46 PM (g47mK)
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Keeping int'l shipping lanes open is an American interest. The borders of Ukraine though, are not.
Posted by: brak at May 06, 2025 03:46 PM (jGJov)
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42 i've heard of them for five or six years. This isn't new. They're constantly shooting missiles at ships and sending terror-pirates to capture them.
Posted by: ace at May
Don’t cruise ships have to turn off their lights and tip toe through? Or is that another group of yahoos who should be invited to meet their maker?
Posted by: ace at May
Don’t cruise ships have to turn off their lights and tip toe through? Or is that another group of yahoos who should be invited to meet their maker?
Posted by: Piper at May 06, 2025 03:46 PM (pZEOD)
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If you accept the fact they believe the problem is the US, then it becomes understandable.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 06, 2025 03:46 PM (4T3aT)
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36 Can I get the people that want us to "stop supporting Israel" to say the same thing about Britain, Germany and France?
Because honestly? I'd like to stop ALL foreign aid. Sorry we are $37T in debt and out of money.
Oh, and our number one expense? NATO.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 06, 2025 03:43 PM (t0Rmr)
Yeah, absolutely. Europe can deal with their own security issues, as can Israel and everyone else on the planet.
I don't see how that position is in any way controversial.
Because honestly? I'd like to stop ALL foreign aid. Sorry we are $37T in debt and out of money.
Oh, and our number one expense? NATO.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 06, 2025 03:43 PM (t0Rmr)
Yeah, absolutely. Europe can deal with their own security issues, as can Israel and everyone else on the planet.
I don't see how that position is in any way controversial.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 06, 2025 03:46 PM (uCjyK)
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So I don't get it: How would not counter-attacking these terrorists have benefited the US? It would have created more acts of war -- more missiles lobbed at cities and airports, and more Western ships being attacked by Houthis -- not fewer.
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I think part of it is the assumption that we'd be working under the old rules:
Managing the combat instead of winning the fight.
Trump seems to want to win fights. It's very different.
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I think part of it is the assumption that we'd be working under the old rules:
Managing the combat instead of winning the fight.
Trump seems to want to win fights. It's very different.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 06, 2025 03:47 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Sam Adams at May 06, 2025 03:47 PM (X+xvk)
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OK so the Israelis take out the main port and main airport and Trump takes the win. OK.
I assume they consulted with him first and he asked them to make sure it was the biggest most luxurious explosion that anyone had ever seen.
I assume they consulted with him first and he asked them to make sure it was the biggest most luxurious explosion that anyone had ever seen.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 06, 2025 03:47 PM (t0Rmr)
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Iran supplies the Houthi's with weapons. We know this. There only so many ways to get weapons from Iran to Yemen. Air or sea. When Iran ships a boatload of suicide drones, or ballistic missiles or cruise missiles those weapons are vulnerable while in transit.
However we bomb the Houthi's after they launch these weapons. Yemen is about the size of the UK and the missiles and drones can be setup and fired in a couple hours, tops. That seems like a difficult targeting problem, even with 100 attack jets and a half dozen B-2 bombers. Our RECON drones are dropping like flies over there too. Around 20, or more "Reaper" like UAV's lost since January.
Being the armchair general that I am, I'd look at interdicting the weapons before they get to Yemen. Whether that entails bombing certain targets in Iran, ships at sea or whatever... I'm sure we have some sort of clue how the weapons are getting from Iran to Yemen.
It's probably not via FedEx either.
However we bomb the Houthi's after they launch these weapons. Yemen is about the size of the UK and the missiles and drones can be setup and fired in a couple hours, tops. That seems like a difficult targeting problem, even with 100 attack jets and a half dozen B-2 bombers. Our RECON drones are dropping like flies over there too. Around 20, or more "Reaper" like UAV's lost since January.
Being the armchair general that I am, I'd look at interdicting the weapons before they get to Yemen. Whether that entails bombing certain targets in Iran, ships at sea or whatever... I'm sure we have some sort of clue how the weapons are getting from Iran to Yemen.
It's probably not via FedEx either.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 06, 2025 03:47 PM (Q4IgG)
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Of course, we capitulated. We're not getting any more USAID funding! What's up, CIA, give us a call!
Posted by: The Houthis at May 06, 2025 03:47 PM (QHX6R)
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58 Keeping int'l shipping lanes open is an American interest. The borders of Ukraine though, are not.
Posted by: brak at May 06, 2025 03:46 PM (jGJov)
Yeah there is zero equivalence there…
Posted by: brak at May 06, 2025 03:46 PM (jGJov)
Yeah there is zero equivalence there…
Posted by: tubal at May 06, 2025 03:47 PM (PCK5/)
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The post is the part above the comments?
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 06, 2025 03:47 PM (VWf79)
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The issue isn't WWIII; the issue is that this should be a European problem. But, as usual, they can't manage the resources to deal with it.
It's easier to complain about us.
Another problem with the fight against the Houthis is that it exposes deep problems within the Navy, particularly the inability to rearm ships at sea.
If they'd get fixed through this exposure, it'd be fine, but would you bet on it?
Also, swatting at flies, eventually a carrier gets hit.
Also, this idea that Iran has no air defense is imbecilic. It's meant to induce people into the idea that zapping Iran is easy - like Iraq!
It's easier to complain about us.
Another problem with the fight against the Houthis is that it exposes deep problems within the Navy, particularly the inability to rearm ships at sea.
If they'd get fixed through this exposure, it'd be fine, but would you bet on it?
Also, swatting at flies, eventually a carrier gets hit.
Also, this idea that Iran has no air defense is imbecilic. It's meant to induce people into the idea that zapping Iran is easy - like Iraq!
Posted by: Harlock at May 06, 2025 03:48 PM (55KD0)
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I suspect the Met Gala atrocities will be included in tonight's Quick Hits, but it's nice Our Favorite President(tm) won't allow the Kennedy Center to add to the debauchery.
I suspect the Met Gala atrocities will be included in tonight's Quick Hits, but it's nice Our Favorite President(tm) won't allow the Kennedy Center to add to the debauchery.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 06, 2025 03:48 PM (No9Bj)
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willowed:
184 So then, if as it seems right now, MTG is going to win the nomination, despite the gnashing of teeth here on the ol' AoSHQ, we'll see if a Republican can, indeed, win in Georgia "fair and square."
Posted by: BurtTC at May 06, 2025 03:13 PM (dGCAG)
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I get distinct Mark Robinson vibes from her.
We'll see.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla
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I like Mark Robinson, don't know what you meant.
otherwise
Bomb the Houtis into the stone age.
184 So then, if as it seems right now, MTG is going to win the nomination, despite the gnashing of teeth here on the ol' AoSHQ, we'll see if a Republican can, indeed, win in Georgia "fair and square."
Posted by: BurtTC at May 06, 2025 03:13 PM (dGCAG)
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I get distinct Mark Robinson vibes from her.
We'll see.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla
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I like Mark Robinson, don't know what you meant.
otherwise
Bomb the Houtis into the stone age.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 06, 2025 03:48 PM (qDF8i)
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Don’t cruise ships have to turn off their lights and tip toe through? Or is that another group of yahoos who should be invited to meet their maker?
Posted by: Piper at May 06, 2025 03:46 PM (pZEOD)
Weren't those the "I am the captain now" folks? Ya know Ilhan Omar's cousins.
Posted by: Piper at May 06, 2025 03:46 PM (pZEOD)
Weren't those the "I am the captain now" folks? Ya know Ilhan Omar's cousins.
Posted by: BruceWayne at May 06, 2025 03:48 PM (MGB5H)
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Sorry, I got word from you-know-who from you-know-where to lay off Tucker Carlson.
Calls were made, you know.
Calls were made, you know.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 06, 2025 03:48 PM (RIvkX)
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Being the armchair general that I am, I'd look at interdicting the weapons before they get to Yemen.
Alternatively, you don't bother with the weapons, but target the people involved instead.
Alternatively, you don't bother with the weapons, but target the people involved instead.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 06, 2025 03:48 PM (s8j++)
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71 I like Mark Robinson, don't know what you meant.
otherwise
Bomb the Houtis into the stone age.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 06, 2025 03:48 PM (qDF8i)
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He lost by 14 points.
That's the vibe.
Someone the base likes but who actively tanks the general election.
otherwise
Bomb the Houtis into the stone age.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 06, 2025 03:48 PM (qDF8i)
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He lost by 14 points.
That's the vibe.
Someone the base likes but who actively tanks the general election.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 06, 2025 03:48 PM (GBKbO)
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Israel is the Larry Bird of warfighters: "here's what I'm going to do on this next play, and you can't stop me."
Posted by: Octochicken at May 06, 2025 03:48 PM (oCS0o)
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Can you get me a beer while you're up? If you don't you're Risking World War Three.
See? SEE? TOLD YOU SO!
See? SEE? TOLD YOU SO!
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at May 06, 2025 03:49 PM (qGDgb)
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Or is it possible that the consistent position that Republicans ALWAYS held prior to the Cold War and the Rise of the Neo-Cons was "hey, let's do our damnedest to stay out of these constant conflicts that happen all over the globe", and that applies to every region of the globe?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 06, 2025 03:44 PM (uCjyK)
Actually, the position is "have a strong national interest before getting involved" and "have a win plan and out strategy" - keeping the sea lane safe, when we do tons of sea shipping all around the world (in both imports and exports) seems like a strong national interest...especially b/c we also knew it wouldn't take much to secure the shipping lane. And for win and out strategy = we didn't need to kick a country out of another country...we just needed to stop "some savages from throwing rocks at us", which a couple of bombs every day accomplished...
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 06, 2025 03:44 PM (uCjyK)
Actually, the position is "have a strong national interest before getting involved" and "have a win plan and out strategy" - keeping the sea lane safe, when we do tons of sea shipping all around the world (in both imports and exports) seems like a strong national interest...especially b/c we also knew it wouldn't take much to secure the shipping lane. And for win and out strategy = we didn't need to kick a country out of another country...we just needed to stop "some savages from throwing rocks at us", which a couple of bombs every day accomplished...
Posted by: Nova Local at May 06, 2025 03:49 PM (tOcjL)
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Between the Houthis/Yemen getting hammered and the proposed leveling of Gaza, there's a lot of terraforming going on in the Middle East.
Posted by: mrp at May 06, 2025 03:49 PM (rj6Yv)
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The Houthis don't drink rum or have even a little sex with that scrumptious minx Orlando Bloom. They are the worst pirates ever.
Posted by: Capt Jack Sparrow at May 06, 2025 03:49 PM (t0Rmr)
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There were a number of things going on, the Oman negotiations, the Iran track, Witkoff doing whatever he does, and then, of course, Israel's involvement. So we can say it was teamwork! and as the kids say "Teamwork makes the dream work".
Posted by: runner at May 06, 2025 03:49 PM (g47mK)
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68 The post is the part above the comments?
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 06, 2025 03:47 PM (VWf79)
My God. This changes EVERYTHING.
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 06, 2025 03:47 PM (VWf79)
My God. This changes EVERYTHING.
Posted by: Epiphany at May 06, 2025 03:49 PM (TbWk/)
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73 Sorry, I got word from you-know-who from you-know-where to lay off Tucker Carlson.
Calls were made, you know.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 06, 2025 03:48 PM (RIvkX)
He called AGAIN??… needs to get a life, that one!!!
Calls were made, you know.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 06, 2025 03:48 PM (RIvkX)
He called AGAIN??… needs to get a life, that one!!!
Posted by: tubal at May 06, 2025 03:49 PM (PCK5/)
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Posted by: Jon Secada at May 06, 2025 03:42 PM (979V4)
Ya
Ya no puedo más
Ya me es imposible soportar
Otro día más sin verte
Ya
Ya no puedo más
Ya me es imposible soportar
Otro día más sin verte
Posted by: kallisto at May 06, 2025 03:49 PM (pAAcS)
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>>>Where were the bombing “us”?
our ships?
Posted by: ace at May 06, 2025 03:42 PM (KRtlO)
Which were over halfway around the world.. why? Seems like a pretty obvious way to avoid this situation was not to be screwing around all over the world?
our ships?
Posted by: ace at May 06, 2025 03:42 PM (KRtlO)
Which were over halfway around the world.. why? Seems like a pretty obvious way to avoid this situation was not to be screwing around all over the world?
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 06, 2025 03:49 PM (l3YAf)
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Or is it possible that the consistent position that Republicans ALWAYS held prior to the Cold War and the Rise of the Neo-Cons was "hey, let's do our damnedest to stay out of these constant conflicts that happen all over the globe", and that applies to every region of the globe?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
Historically, the US Navy (and the Royal Navy back in the day) championed freedom of the seas from pirates etc. Striking the Houthis who were acting as proxies in attacking shipping in the Red Sea was all about denial of the free travel of ships. This hurt Egypt in the pocketbook for not siding with the Iranians, and destabilized Euroland, and attacking Israel.
If you note, Yemenese government effectively disintegrated when Iran bought off the Houthis decade ago to attack Saudi Arabia from the South.
Apparently the missile used to hit Ben Gurion was a hi-tech hypersonic glide missile which is why THAAD and Israeli missile defenses did not intercept successfully. Given those missiles either come from Russia or China and were passed through by the Iranians constitutes a major escalation by Iran in launching those missiles from Houthi land.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
Historically, the US Navy (and the Royal Navy back in the day) championed freedom of the seas from pirates etc. Striking the Houthis who were acting as proxies in attacking shipping in the Red Sea was all about denial of the free travel of ships. This hurt Egypt in the pocketbook for not siding with the Iranians, and destabilized Euroland, and attacking Israel.
If you note, Yemenese government effectively disintegrated when Iran bought off the Houthis decade ago to attack Saudi Arabia from the South.
Apparently the missile used to hit Ben Gurion was a hi-tech hypersonic glide missile which is why THAAD and Israeli missile defenses did not intercept successfully. Given those missiles either come from Russia or China and were passed through by the Iranians constitutes a major escalation by Iran in launching those missiles from Houthi land.
Posted by: whig at May 06, 2025 03:50 PM (ctrM5)
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Also, this idea that Iran has no air defense is imbecilic. It's meant to induce people into the idea that zapping Iran is easy - like Iraq!
Why? Did the Israelis miss a few when they went in last time?
Why? Did the Israelis miss a few when they went in last time?
Posted by: Archimedes at May 06, 2025 03:50 PM (s8j++)
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at May 06, 2025 03:50 PM (qGDgb)
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>>Or is it possible that the consistent position that Republicans ALWAYS held prior to the Cold War and the Rise of the Neo-Cons was "hey, let's do our damnedest to stay out of these constant conflicts that happen all over the globe", and that applies to every region of the globe?
They've been firing on our ships for a couple of years now. Biden's policy of strategic do nothing didn't seem to be having much of a deterrence so they kept on doing it.
Your options are stop them from shooting at our ships by force or abandon one of the most important shipping areas on the planet for both military and commercial shipping. What would you do?
They've been firing on our ships for a couple of years now. Biden's policy of strategic do nothing didn't seem to be having much of a deterrence so they kept on doing it.
Your options are stop them from shooting at our ships by force or abandon one of the most important shipping areas on the planet for both military and commercial shipping. What would you do?
Posted by: JackStraw at May 06, 2025 03:50 PM (viF8m)
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As you all know, the Left has found it's new criminal hero - a black luigi mangione, which is nice because they were able to "check a box" with him being a black, and all.
As you all know, the Left has found it's new criminal hero - a black luigi mangione, which is nice because they were able to "check a box" with him being a black, and all.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 06, 2025 03:50 PM (No9Bj)
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72 Weren't those the "I am the captain now" folks? Ya know Ilhan Omar's cousins.
Posted by: BruceWayne at May 06
You are correct, kind sir!
Posted by: BruceWayne at May 06
You are correct, kind sir!
Posted by: Piper at May 06, 2025 03:50 PM (pZEOD)
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85 >>>Where were the bombing “us”?
our ships?
Posted by: ace at May 06, 2025 03:42 PM (KRtlO)
Which were over halfway around the world.. why? Seems like a pretty obvious way to avoid this situation was not to be screwing around all over the world?
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 06, 2025 03:49 PM (l3YAf)
Because… ah, nevermind.
our ships?
Posted by: ace at May 06, 2025 03:42 PM (KRtlO)
Which were over halfway around the world.. why? Seems like a pretty obvious way to avoid this situation was not to be screwing around all over the world?
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 06, 2025 03:49 PM (l3YAf)
Because… ah, nevermind.
Posted by: tubal at May 06, 2025 03:51 PM (PCK5/)
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i've heard of them for five or six years. This isn't new. They're constantly shooting missiles at ships and sending terror-pirates to capture them.
Posted by: ace at May 06, 2025 03:44 PM (KRtlO)
Yes, they first came to prominence when our other great ally in the middle east, Saudi Arabia, bombed the ever loving shit out of Yemen to kill the Houthis (with American planes and bombs, of course), who were allegedly being sponsored by Iran to overthrow the Sunni government of Yemen.
Here's my problem with all of us: I don't trust our government, I don't trust our media, I certainly don't trust our intel agencies, and our options here are to:
1) just "trust the experts" and let them do whatever they want overseas
or
2) become experts in every third world conflict around the world and pick sides in that conflict for some reason.
OR
3) say "fuck that, they can fight it out, it's not our problem"
Or am I missing something?
Posted by: ace at May 06, 2025 03:44 PM (KRtlO)
Yes, they first came to prominence when our other great ally in the middle east, Saudi Arabia, bombed the ever loving shit out of Yemen to kill the Houthis (with American planes and bombs, of course), who were allegedly being sponsored by Iran to overthrow the Sunni government of Yemen.
Here's my problem with all of us: I don't trust our government, I don't trust our media, I certainly don't trust our intel agencies, and our options here are to:
1) just "trust the experts" and let them do whatever they want overseas
or
2) become experts in every third world conflict around the world and pick sides in that conflict for some reason.
OR
3) say "fuck that, they can fight it out, it's not our problem"
Or am I missing something?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 06, 2025 03:51 PM (uCjyK)
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I think there's an explanation for this: This isn't about being anti-interventionism, this is about being anti-Israel
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I read that Paul's biggest funding PAC is anti-intervention. Maybe that's become code for anti-Israel, don't know. But Paul is definitely a tree apple.
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I read that Paul's biggest funding PAC is anti-intervention. Maybe that's become code for anti-Israel, don't know. But Paul is definitely a tree apple.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 06, 2025 03:51 PM (qDF8i)
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>> keeping the sea lane safe, when we do tons of sea shipping all around the world (in both imports and exports) seems like a strong national interest...
Keeping the seas safe for Chinese container ships and foreign-flagged vessels. Good job, US Navy!
Keeping the seas safe for Chinese container ships and foreign-flagged vessels. Good job, US Navy!
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 06, 2025 03:51 PM (l3YAf)
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Which were over halfway around the world.. why? Seems like a pretty obvious way to avoid this situation was not to be screwing around all over the world?
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director
Dude, it's trading route.
Which were over halfway around the world.. why? Seems like a pretty obvious way to avoid this situation was not to be screwing around all over the world?
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director
Dude, it's trading route.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 06, 2025 03:52 PM (No9Bj)
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The war in Ukraine and more to the point the enabling of attacks on Russian soil were far, far more of a risk for WWII than anything in Gaza or the Houthis.
That said, I think we do tend to think an air strike can solve all problems and get in trouble that way. These last 2 strikes look to be an exception. Let the EU spend their effort in nation building Yemen now, not the US.
That said, I think we do tend to think an air strike can solve all problems and get in trouble that way. These last 2 strikes look to be an exception. Let the EU spend their effort in nation building Yemen now, not the US.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 06, 2025 03:52 PM (8avO+)
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Weren't those the "I am the captain now" folks? Ya know Ilhan Omar's cousins.
Cousins, brothers, boy friends, and nephews for the record.
And sexy sexy ones.
Cousins, brothers, boy friends, and nephews for the record.
And sexy sexy ones.
Posted by: Ilhan Omar at May 06, 2025 03:52 PM (t0Rmr)
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Or wear pants?
Posted by: Moron Analyst at May 06, 2025 03:44 PM (JCZqz)
Let's not get all extreme now.
Or wear pants?
Posted by: Moron Analyst at May 06, 2025 03:44 PM (JCZqz)
Let's not get all extreme now.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 06, 2025 03:52 PM (y9nCu)
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did you guys listen to that podcast I linked where a special forces operator described his operation to try to track and stop a ship bringing foreign fighters to Iraq? It was so cool. He had just two other guys with him, one was a PJ (special forces air medical rescue) and I think the other was a Brit, and they linked up with these Ethiopian rebels who might be untrustworthy or even enemies. Anyway, he wound up conning an admiral into launching a barrage at an enemy position.
Posted by: ace at May 06, 2025 03:53 PM (KRtlO)
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From the last thread....
Afternoon, Horde. I just learned from Ben Had that Jim Sunk New Dawn passed away this morning. What a truly sad thing.
Posted by: Ladyl at May 06, 2025 03:33 PM (D6+4s)
Afternoon, Horde. I just learned from Ben Had that Jim Sunk New Dawn passed away this morning. What a truly sad thing.
Posted by: Ladyl at May 06, 2025 03:33 PM (D6+4s)
Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at May 06, 2025 03:53 PM (vcOmj)
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I agree, but this is now controversial among the Tucker Carlson followers. It's Risking World War Three.
But the Muslims bombing us every other day is just fine.
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Another thing they chorus of the usual suspects pretend not to understand that if we pull back from that very important shipping lane...China will step in. And we already tried that with Panama. And how did that work out ? Good thing the Panamanian president was amiable to our advances. And kicked China out.
I agree, but this is now controversial among the Tucker Carlson followers. It's Risking World War Three.
But the Muslims bombing us every other day is just fine.
==
Another thing they chorus of the usual suspects pretend not to understand that if we pull back from that very important shipping lane...China will step in. And we already tried that with Panama. And how did that work out ? Good thing the Panamanian president was amiable to our advances. And kicked China out.
Posted by: runner at May 06, 2025 03:53 PM (g47mK)
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95 >> keeping the sea lane safe, when we do tons of sea shipping all around the world (in both imports and exports) seems like a strong national interest...
Keeping the seas safe for Chinese container ships and foreign-flagged vessels. Good job, US Navy!
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 06, 2025 03:51 PM (l3YAf)
Til we bring back pharmaceuticals in full, we need the dang Chinese ships...gotta solve one problem at a time...
Keeping the seas safe for Chinese container ships and foreign-flagged vessels. Good job, US Navy!
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 06, 2025 03:51 PM (l3YAf)
Til we bring back pharmaceuticals in full, we need the dang Chinese ships...gotta solve one problem at a time...
Posted by: Nova Local at May 06, 2025 03:53 PM (tOcjL)
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Because… ah, nevermind.
Posted by: tubal at May 06, 2025 03:51 PM (PCK5/)
The grift must flow. The US military loses every war, but they can certainly spend a lot of my money.
Posted by: tubal at May 06, 2025 03:51 PM (PCK5/)
The grift must flow. The US military loses every war, but they can certainly spend a lot of my money.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 06, 2025 03:53 PM (l3YAf)
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Or wear pants?
Posted by: Moron Analyst at May 06, 2025 03:44 PM (JCZqz)
This isn't the book thread!
Posted by: Moron Analyst at May 06, 2025 03:44 PM (JCZqz)
This isn't the book thread!
Posted by: BruceWayne at May 06, 2025 03:53 PM (MGB5H)
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Actually, the position is "have a strong national interest before getting involved" and "have a win plan and out strategy" - keeping the sea lane safe, when we do tons of sea shipping all around the world (in both imports and exports) seems like a strong national interest...especially b/c we also knew it wouldn't take much to secure the shipping lane. And for win and out strategy = we didn't need to kick a country out of another country...we just needed to stop "some savages from throwing rocks at us", which a couple of bombs every day accomplished...
Posted by: Nova Local
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There is a reason that John Adams created a Navy and that Tom Jefferson subsequently used it against the Barbary pirates.
Piracy, shipping attacks, etc. are a common thing around Muslim chokeholds of shipping lanes throughout history.
Piracy happened elsewhere like the Caribbean during the colonial era but centuries of Mediterranean piracy resulted in Europe losing a lot of victims taken in pirate raids for slaves to Muslims who valued them over other slaves they could get.
Posted by: Nova Local
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There is a reason that John Adams created a Navy and that Tom Jefferson subsequently used it against the Barbary pirates.
Piracy, shipping attacks, etc. are a common thing around Muslim chokeholds of shipping lanes throughout history.
Piracy happened elsewhere like the Caribbean during the colonial era but centuries of Mediterranean piracy resulted in Europe losing a lot of victims taken in pirate raids for slaves to Muslims who valued them over other slaves they could get.
Posted by: whig at May 06, 2025 03:53 PM (ctrM5)
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Til we bring back pharmaceuticals in full, we need the dang Chinese ships...gotta solve one problem at a time...
Posted by: Nova Local at May 06, 2025 03:53 PM (tOcjL)
Do a lot of US-bound pharmaceuticals traverse the Red Sea? Seems a tad inefficient.
Posted by: Nova Local at May 06, 2025 03:53 PM (tOcjL)
Do a lot of US-bound pharmaceuticals traverse the Red Sea? Seems a tad inefficient.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 06, 2025 03:54 PM (l3YAf)
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>>>Which were over halfway around the world.. why? Seems like a pretty obvious way to avoid this situation was not to be screwing around all over the world?
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director
whatever. Please submit a map showing which hemispheres of the world you want to concede to fucking murderous barbarians.
I feel like I'm talking to Medea Benjamin of Code Pink. We always have to understand the terrorists' point of view.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director
whatever. Please submit a map showing which hemispheres of the world you want to concede to fucking murderous barbarians.
I feel like I'm talking to Medea Benjamin of Code Pink. We always have to understand the terrorists' point of view.
Posted by: ace at May 06, 2025 03:54 PM (KRtlO)
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I'm assuming the middle east realizes the leash on Israel is much longer these days. Trump's MO has been to do targeted but massively destructive strikes, pretty much to make everyone aware that the next one will be worse. He just allowed the Israeli's to have this glorious bombing for themselves.
Posted by: Black JEM at May 06, 2025 03:54 PM (GZYu7)
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Which were over halfway around the world.. why? Seems like a pretty obvious way to avoid this situation was not to be screwing around all over the world?
By golly, you're right! If we keep the ships moored permanently in Norfolk and San Diego, they'll be completely safe.
By golly, you're right! If we keep the ships moored permanently in Norfolk and San Diego, they'll be completely safe.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 06, 2025 03:54 PM (s8j++)
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The grift must flow. The US military loses every war, but they can certainly spend a lot of my money.
I suspect if Biden/Harris has gotten us into WWIII in Ukraine we'd have quickly found our superweapons aren't that super. Yes, somewhat better then the Russian stuff...but at 100X the price.
I suspect if Biden/Harris has gotten us into WWIII in Ukraine we'd have quickly found our superweapons aren't that super. Yes, somewhat better then the Russian stuff...but at 100X the price.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 06, 2025 03:54 PM (t0Rmr)
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Let us remember that for some odd reason, the Houthis (who are Iranian proxies) were not bombing Chinese cargo and military ships in the Red Sea. But they were shooting at European ones. how convenient!
Posted by: runner at May 06, 2025 03:54 PM (g47mK)
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I think to give Tucker his due, he is was a swampy neo-con with a spooky family that supported the Neocon agenda 110% and felt proud about it until he made the mistake of looking some of the people who were victims of the neocon agenda in the eye and realized what he was advocating.
Also, to give Tucker his due, I listen to him because he had good guests, not because I find his "Golden retriever trying to figure out merchant banking" head-tilt endearing, or his speech pattern that is reminiscent of Meryl Streep arresting.
Also, to give Tucker his due, I listen to him because he had good guests, not because I find his "Golden retriever trying to figure out merchant banking" head-tilt endearing, or his speech pattern that is reminiscent of Meryl Streep arresting.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 06, 2025 03:55 PM (D7oie)
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There’s a secondary reason for Trump to have ordered the attack on the Houthi; it lets every government in the region know that unlike Biden and Blinken, he’s serious and he WILL follow up with action when challenged.
The Middle East is like any real bad neighborhood - you’ve got to give a couple of the tough guys there a public beating if you want to get any respect from anyone.
The Middle East is like any real bad neighborhood - you’ve got to give a couple of the tough guys there a public beating if you want to get any respect from anyone.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 06, 2025 03:55 PM (uWKK8)
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Why is Trump bombing a 90's rock band?
Posted by: wth at May 06, 2025 03:55 PM (v0R5T)
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Which were over halfway around the world.. why? Seems like a pretty obvious way to avoid this situation was not to be screwing around all over the world?
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 06, 2025 03:49 PM (l3YAf)
you really pushing this hard; are you a Chinese bot ?
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 06, 2025 03:49 PM (l3YAf)
you really pushing this hard; are you a Chinese bot ?
Posted by: runner at May 06, 2025 03:55 PM (g47mK)
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If Houthis were lobbing missiles at US Airliners, what should we do, not fly to that area??
Of course we respond with military action.
If Houthis were lobbing missiles at US Airliners, what should we do, not fly to that area??
Of course we respond with military action.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 06, 2025 03:55 PM (No9Bj)
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Good afternoon Ace and everyone
Sundowner would have given in
Sundowner would have given in
Posted by: Skip at May 06, 2025 03:55 PM (ypFCm)
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But the Muslims bombing us every other day is just fine.
Posted by: ace at May 06, 2025 03:38 PM (KRtlO)
Where were the bombing “us”?
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 06, 2025 03:39 PM (l3YAf)
In the Red Sea straits when our Navy was escorting ships over the last few years. British and French ships too.
Posted by: ace at May 06, 2025 03:38 PM (KRtlO)
Where were the bombing “us”?
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 06, 2025 03:39 PM (l3YAf)
In the Red Sea straits when our Navy was escorting ships over the last few years. British and French ships too.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 06, 2025 03:55 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: 18-1 at May 06, 2025 03:56 PM (t0Rmr)
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I'm as much for telling the Euros to get off their asses and defend themselves. However freedom of the seas is something important to commerce and civilization everywhere. If we don't stomp the Houthis no one would have , maybe Israel a little, but to not do it would encourage piracy and trade interruptions everywhere. Eff these new would be Barbary pirates
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 06, 2025 03:56 PM (vmkyp)
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They've been firing on our ships for a couple of years now. Biden's policy of strategic do nothing didn't seem to be having much of a deterrence so they kept on doing it.
Your options are stop them from shooting at our ships by force or abandon one of the most important shipping areas on the planet for both military and commercial shipping. What would you do?
Posted by: JackStraw at May 06, 2025 03:50 PM (viF8m)
Which US-flag ships have been damaged, sunk or captured by Houthis in Yemen?
I'm not aware of any, but I could be wrong.
As for what I would do? I don't know what we're importing from Red Sea ports that is so important, but if we need to drop bombs in Yemen, my first course of action would be to walk over to Congress and say we need to declare war on Yemen and I would try to make my case.
And I doubt I would be able to, so ultimately, nothing would be done about the Houthi problem. If someone is more motivated to solve it, they can.
Why is this my problem, as president of the US in this hypothetical?
Your options are stop them from shooting at our ships by force or abandon one of the most important shipping areas on the planet for both military and commercial shipping. What would you do?
Posted by: JackStraw at May 06, 2025 03:50 PM (viF8m)
Which US-flag ships have been damaged, sunk or captured by Houthis in Yemen?
I'm not aware of any, but I could be wrong.
As for what I would do? I don't know what we're importing from Red Sea ports that is so important, but if we need to drop bombs in Yemen, my first course of action would be to walk over to Congress and say we need to declare war on Yemen and I would try to make my case.
And I doubt I would be able to, so ultimately, nothing would be done about the Houthi problem. If someone is more motivated to solve it, they can.
Why is this my problem, as president of the US in this hypothetical?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 06, 2025 03:56 PM (uCjyK)
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On the Thom Tillis thing -
Was Ed Martin a representative attorney for a J6er(s), or was he strictly a spokesman for an organization?
Anyway, I think Tillis wants something for his vote, and his BS description of J6 "totally destroying the Capitol" (or words to that effect) was so over the top that the only reason for employing it was for a vote quid pro quo or to keep something else quiet.
Was Ed Martin a representative attorney for a J6er(s), or was he strictly a spokesman for an organization?
Anyway, I think Tillis wants something for his vote, and his BS description of J6 "totally destroying the Capitol" (or words to that effect) was so over the top that the only reason for employing it was for a vote quid pro quo or to keep something else quiet.
Posted by: mrp at May 06, 2025 03:56 PM (rj6Yv)
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The freedom of the ocean is a BFD. Yeah I know some ships not American will get protected by our actions.. but so will ours. Plus they launched at Our ships… blow their asses up.
Posted by: tubal at May 06, 2025 03:56 PM (PCK5/)
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>>>Today Hootie, tomorrow Hole.
oh, I thought he meant the Houdou Gurus or Husker Du.
I didn't think of Hootie.
oh, I thought he meant the Houdou Gurus or Husker Du.
I didn't think of Hootie.
Posted by: ace at May 06, 2025 03:56 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: eleven at May 06, 2025 03:56 PM (fV+MH)
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107 Til we bring back pharmaceuticals in full, we need the dang Chinese ships...gotta solve one problem at a time...
Posted by: Nova Local at May 06, 2025 03:53 PM (tOcjL)
Do a lot of US-bound pharmaceuticals traverse the Red Sea? Seems a tad inefficient.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 06, 2025 03:54 PM (l3YAf)
No, we don't make most of them - we need to bring them back b/c right now, we have to import many life-saving ones from China.
I know the miracle drug I'm on is made in China (and they manufacture a lot of the cutting edge ones now b/c the US has been an idiot outsourcer)...and it's not the only miracle drug that was outsourced there and brought in by Biogene USA...
Posted by: Nova Local at May 06, 2025 03:53 PM (tOcjL)
Do a lot of US-bound pharmaceuticals traverse the Red Sea? Seems a tad inefficient.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 06, 2025 03:54 PM (l3YAf)
No, we don't make most of them - we need to bring them back b/c right now, we have to import many life-saving ones from China.
I know the miracle drug I'm on is made in China (and they manufacture a lot of the cutting edge ones now b/c the US has been an idiot outsourcer)...and it's not the only miracle drug that was outsourced there and brought in by Biogene USA...
Posted by: Nova Local at May 06, 2025 03:57 PM (tOcjL)
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Which were over halfway around the world.. why? Seems like a pretty obvious way to avoid this situation was not to be screwing around all over the world?
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director
Dude, it's trading route.
Posted by: Soothsayer
The Red Sea is a choke point, as it is the entrance and exit route for all sea traffic going into and out of the Suez Canal. There is a tremendous amount of shipping that goes through there, and because of the "Houthis" /re Iranian proxies, a lot of ships are going around Cape Horn (South Africa) instead of passing through Suez.
I don't like us being involved there, either, but doing nothing is giving in to chaos thugs like the Iranian government.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director
Dude, it's trading route.
Posted by: Soothsayer
The Red Sea is a choke point, as it is the entrance and exit route for all sea traffic going into and out of the Suez Canal. There is a tremendous amount of shipping that goes through there, and because of the "Houthis" /re Iranian proxies, a lot of ships are going around Cape Horn (South Africa) instead of passing through Suez.
I don't like us being involved there, either, but doing nothing is giving in to chaos thugs like the Iranian government.
Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at May 06, 2025 03:57 PM (vcOmj)
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Typo - Biogene is Beigene b/c I'm an idiot...
...Posted by: Nova Local at May 06, 2025 03:57 PM (tOcjL)
Posted by: m at May 06, 2025 03:57 PM (CQE5S)
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"Boo", said Biden to the Houtthis.
"Bring down the thunder from the skies!", said Trump and Netanyahu.
(Apologies to the Fighting Irish song)
"Bring down the thunder from the skies!", said Trump and Netanyahu.
(Apologies to the Fighting Irish song)
Posted by: JM in Illinois at May 06, 2025 03:58 PM (WoIFp)
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Where is this idea coming from that nothing was happening in the Red Sea when Biden was president?
https://tinyurl.com/CENTCOM-Yemen-Strikes
I don't trust that the Houthis will just stop.
Their operations are incredibly primitive and can be spun up at the drop of a hat.
https://tinyurl.com/CENTCOM-Yemen-Strikes
I don't trust that the Houthis will just stop.
Their operations are incredibly primitive and can be spun up at the drop of a hat.
Posted by: Harlock at May 06, 2025 03:58 PM (55KD0)
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>>>I don't know what we're importing from Red Sea ports that is so important, but if we need to drop bombs in Yemen, my first course of action would be to walk over to Congress and say we need to declare war on Yemen and I would try to make my case.
it's the pathway from the entire eastern hemisphere, but you knew that, so why are you pretending you don't?
The old alternative to the Red Sea/Mediterranean was going around the Horn of Africa, which is not only an extremely long trip, but the Horn of Africa has nasty storms that make navigation perilous.
I mean are you pretending to be stupid just to slow down the discussion? why do people do this?
it's the pathway from the entire eastern hemisphere, but you knew that, so why are you pretending you don't?
The old alternative to the Red Sea/Mediterranean was going around the Horn of Africa, which is not only an extremely long trip, but the Horn of Africa has nasty storms that make navigation perilous.
I mean are you pretending to be stupid just to slow down the discussion? why do people do this?
Posted by: ace at May 06, 2025 03:58 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: eleven at May 06, 2025 03:58 PM (fV+MH)
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The Israelis not only bombed the port and airport they took out the largest cement manufacturer in the area.
No more tunnels for you, hamassholes.
No more tunnels for you, hamassholes.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 06, 2025 03:59 PM (NVNRw)
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Their operations are incredibly primitive and can be spun up at the drop of a hat.
Destroy every single port and village within ten miles of the sea.
They'll stop, either because they are tired of the losses or because they are all dead. Really doesn't matter which
Their operations are incredibly primitive and can be spun up at the drop of a hat.
Destroy every single port and village within ten miles of the sea.
They'll stop, either because they are tired of the losses or because they are all dead. Really doesn't matter which
Posted by: 18-1 at May 06, 2025 03:59 PM (t0Rmr)
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why don't we just concede the Panama Canal to China? We can just go around the Tierra del Feugo if it's really worth going to Asia.
Posted by: ace at May 06, 2025 03:59 PM (KRtlO)
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Being the armchair general that I am, I'd look at interdicting the weapons before they get to Yemen. Whether that entails bombing certain targets in Iran, ships at sea or whatever... I'm sure we have some sort of clue how the weapons are getting from Iran to Yemen.
It's probably not via FedEx either.
Posted by: Martini Farmer
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Some come from the N. Yemen port facilities that Israelis and the US have bombed since March. Some were stored in bunkers which the US took out using B2s and B52's using penetrating bombs. And then there were airfields in Sanaa' vicinity that have been taken out by US and Israeli bombing.
It's probably not via FedEx either.
Posted by: Martini Farmer
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Some come from the N. Yemen port facilities that Israelis and the US have bombed since March. Some were stored in bunkers which the US took out using B2s and B52's using penetrating bombs. And then there were airfields in Sanaa' vicinity that have been taken out by US and Israeli bombing.
Posted by: whig at May 06, 2025 03:59 PM (ctrM5)
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Afternoon, Horde. I just learned from Ben Had that Jim Sunk New Dawn passed away this morning. What a truly sad thing.
Posted by: Ladyl
___________
As Jesus stated on the cross, "You will be with me in paradise this day".
Posted by: Ladyl
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As Jesus stated on the cross, "You will be with me in paradise this day".
Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at May 06, 2025 03:59 PM (VJc7E)
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Halley Barry, 58.6 years old, was naked at the Met Gala pervert-fest, last night.
Halley Barry, 58.6 years old, was naked at the Met Gala pervert-fest, last night.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 06, 2025 03:59 PM (No9Bj)
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...I feel like I'm talking to Medea Benjamin of Code Pink. We always have to understand the terrorists' point of view.
Posted by: ace at May 06, 2025 03:54 PM (KRtlO)
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Do you feel like tearing your own face off?
Posted by: ace at May 06, 2025 03:54 PM (KRtlO)
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Do you feel like tearing your own face off?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 06, 2025 03:59 PM (RIvkX)
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We be alls herd thats Presdent Obama is the won thats help end the comflict with that yeoman place in the Middle East. Thank yew Presdent obama for sgain doing Trump's job.
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vt at May 06, 2025 03:59 PM (h/LZl)
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I bet Trump watches Bebe bang Melania during his visits.
Miriam Adelson gives him $100k if he's a good boy and sits quietly.
Miriam Adelson gives him $100k if he's a good boy and sits quietly.
Posted by: America First at May 06, 2025 03:59 PM (n6u17)
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I have no problems with Tucker the Peacenik (atoning for Iraq, trying to be a consistent Christian) nor his eclectic guest list -- I hate Ben & Jerry, but why not be open to all sides? Do we just want the same stale talking points from the same stale experts and partisans?
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 06, 2025 03:59 PM (wBaIH)
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Which were over halfway around the world.. why? Seems like a pretty obvious way to avoid this situation was not to be screwing around all over the world?
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 06, 2025 03:49 PM (l3YAf)
How else are you going to find those sweet queens down by the dockyard, Admiral Bill?
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 06, 2025 03:49 PM (l3YAf)
How else are you going to find those sweet queens down by the dockyard, Admiral Bill?
Posted by: Kindltot at May 06, 2025 03:59 PM (D7oie)
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>> The Red Sea is a choke point, as it is the entrance and exit route for all sea traffic going into and out of the Suez Canal.
How much stuff bound for America is passing through the Suez Canal?
How much stuff bound for America is passing through the Suez Canal?
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 06, 2025 04:00 PM (l3YAf)
Posted by: DaveA at May 06, 2025 04:00 PM (FhXTo)
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Was Hailey Berry a nice-looking woman? Yes, 35 years ago.
Was Hailey Berry a nice-looking woman? Yes, 35 years ago.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 06, 2025 04:00 PM (No9Bj)
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Your options are stop them from shooting at our ships by force or abandon one of the most important shipping areas on the planet for both military and commercial shipping. What would you do?
Well summarized. Once they fired on US ships it was game over. Shouldn't have taken this long to put them down.
Well summarized. Once they fired on US ships it was game over. Shouldn't have taken this long to put them down.
Posted by: Fast Eddie Felson at May 06, 2025 04:00 PM (MEYgk)
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"we shouldn't have trade with anyone, anywhere, and Muslim Pirates are allowed to sack US ships because encouraging Muslim attacks is a great way to stave off a war with Muslims"
I'm reliving fucking 2001-2002.
I'm reliving fucking 2001-2002.
Posted by: ace at May 06, 2025 04:00 PM (KRtlO)
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Tit-For-Tat is a Measured Response in my thinking… don’t start nothin’ won’t be nothin’….
Posted by: tubal
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Actually if one Tats, every piece of military and transportation infrastructure they have should be eliminated. No titting around, no call backs.
Posted by: tubal
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Actually if one Tats, every piece of military and transportation infrastructure they have should be eliminated. No titting around, no call backs.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 06, 2025 04:00 PM (qDF8i)
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143 Now we know where this troll is coming from.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 06, 2025 04:00 PM (wBaIH)
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(Apologies to the Fighting Irish song)
Posted by: JM in Illinois
"We never stumble, we never fall,
We sober up on pure alcohol.
While our loyal faculty lies drunk on the football field."
Posted by: JM in Illinois
"We never stumble, we never fall,
We sober up on pure alcohol.
While our loyal faculty lies drunk on the football field."
Posted by: Bulg at May 06, 2025 04:01 PM (77rzZ)
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 06, 2025 04:01 PM (No9Bj)
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He lost by 14 points.
That's the vibe.
Someone the base likes but who actively tanks the general election.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla
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Mitch McConnell did that.
He lost by 14 points.
That's the vibe.
Someone the base likes but who actively tanks the general election.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla
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Mitch McConnell did that.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 06, 2025 04:01 PM (qDF8i)
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Today Hootie, tomorrow Hole
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I saw Hole open for Corvette Museum in Bowling Green in 2014. True story.
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I saw Hole open for Corvette Museum in Bowling Green in 2014. True story.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at May 06, 2025 04:01 PM (z0Ldx)
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Do we just want the same stale talking points from the same stale experts and partisans?
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 06, 2025
Of course not, but I don’t think it’s unreasonable to be negative toward antisemites.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 06, 2025
Of course not, but I don’t think it’s unreasonable to be negative toward antisemites.
Posted by: Piper at May 06, 2025 04:01 PM (pZEOD)
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If we hired another country/company/lunatic to do our killing for us, would that reduce the WWIII risk?
Posted by: Oglebay at May 06, 2025 04:01 PM (2ap+5)
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Their operations are incredibly primitive and can be spun up at the drop of a hat.
Destroy every single port and village within ten miles of the sea.
They'll stop, either because they are tired of the losses or because they are all dead. Really doesn't matter which
Don't bother trying to hit the missiles. Hit the country's infrastructure, which, primitive as it might be, is all that keeps that s***hole from descending into utter barbarism. I guarantee you that the Yemeni government doesn't want to lose power and water; that way lies bloody revolution.
IOW, do just what they did.
Destroy every single port and village within ten miles of the sea.
They'll stop, either because they are tired of the losses or because they are all dead. Really doesn't matter which
Don't bother trying to hit the missiles. Hit the country's infrastructure, which, primitive as it might be, is all that keeps that s***hole from descending into utter barbarism. I guarantee you that the Yemeni government doesn't want to lose power and water; that way lies bloody revolution.
IOW, do just what they did.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 06, 2025 04:02 PM (s8j++)
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 06, 2025 04:02 PM (No9Bj)
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Cleanup on aisle 143 please.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 06, 2025 04:02 PM (a4NoL)
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I saw Hole open for Corvette Museum in Bowling Green in 2014. True story.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at May 06, 2025 04:01 PM (z0Ldx)
Did they open and close with doll parts, and play it once in the middle?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at May 06, 2025 04:01 PM (z0Ldx)
Did they open and close with doll parts, and play it once in the middle?
Posted by: BruceWayne at May 06, 2025 04:02 PM (MGB5H)
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Big Tit Liz Claman talked with the CEO of Big Lots. The CEO was saying some items might be unavailable because of the tariffs with Chynah for Christmas.
My take: who cares?
What can possibly be SO NECESSARY from Big Lots?
My take: who cares?
What can possibly be SO NECESSARY from Big Lots?
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 06, 2025 04:02 PM (ufFY8)
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"We don't need them to learn what happened to the Jews the Holocaust. We need them to learn what happened to the Nazis"
-Dave Portnoy
-Dave Portnoy
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 06, 2025 04:02 PM (kBh81)
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101. I’m sorry to hear this.So many morons leaving us, but comforted by the thought they are happy and whole again.
Posted by: Jen the original at May 06, 2025 04:03 PM (PEc1B)
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Hudayduh?
Wasn't that that news talker chick from CBS?
Posted by: eleven at May 06, 2025 03:58 PM (fV+MH)
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No no no, you're thinking of the guy from "Blood Simple."
Wasn't that that news talker chick from CBS?
Posted by: eleven at May 06, 2025 03:58 PM (fV+MH)
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No no no, you're thinking of the guy from "Blood Simple."
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 06, 2025 04:03 PM (tT6L1)
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Let us remember that for some odd reason, the Houthis (who are Iranian proxies) were not bombing Chinese cargo and military ships in the Red Sea. But they were shooting at European ones. how convenient!
Posted by: runner at May 06, 2025 03:54 PM (g47mK)
Not really a shock, Houthis are "at war" with Israel and its 'allies' to support Hamas in Gaza. Iran was sponsoring that in a similar manner to us sponsoring Ukraine and its war.
If they have been defeated now, great perhaps Yemen can get its house in order. Let the Europeans do the nationbuilding, that trade route is not one the US uses much.
Posted by: runner at May 06, 2025 03:54 PM (g47mK)
Not really a shock, Houthis are "at war" with Israel and its 'allies' to support Hamas in Gaza. Iran was sponsoring that in a similar manner to us sponsoring Ukraine and its war.
If they have been defeated now, great perhaps Yemen can get its house in order. Let the Europeans do the nationbuilding, that trade route is not one the US uses much.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 06, 2025 04:03 PM (8avO+)
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As for what I would do? I don't know what we're importing from Red Sea ports that is so important, but if we need to drop bombs in Yemen, my first course of action would be to walk over to Congress and say we need to declare war on Yemen and I would try to make my case.
And I doubt I would be able to, so ultimately, nothing would be done about the Houthi problem. If someone is more motivated to solve it, they can.
Why is this my problem, as president of the US in this hypothetical?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
Harry, I learned long ago about that question about declared wars. Basically between WWI and WWII plus the early cold war, Congress put all kinds of triggers in case of declared wars that give the president God Emperor status over the economy, immigration, diplomacy, the military and so on.
There are so many of provisions buried in current laws that senior members take junior members of Congress aside and tell them the facts of life. If war is declared, you get FDR WWII elected dictator level power for the president.
And I doubt I would be able to, so ultimately, nothing would be done about the Houthi problem. If someone is more motivated to solve it, they can.
Why is this my problem, as president of the US in this hypothetical?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
Harry, I learned long ago about that question about declared wars. Basically between WWI and WWII plus the early cold war, Congress put all kinds of triggers in case of declared wars that give the president God Emperor status over the economy, immigration, diplomacy, the military and so on.
There are so many of provisions buried in current laws that senior members take junior members of Congress aside and tell them the facts of life. If war is declared, you get FDR WWII elected dictator level power for the president.
Posted by: whig at May 06, 2025 04:03 PM (ctrM5)
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Halley Barry, 58.6 years old, was naked at the Met Gala pervert-fest, last night.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 06, 2025 03:59 PM
She was hot in the flintstone movie.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 06, 2025 03:59 PM
She was hot in the flintstone movie.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 06, 2025 04:03 PM (e5NfL)
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Prima Moronus
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 06, 2025 03:33 PM (u73oe)
Primus Moronus?
Posted by: m at May 06, 2025 03:57 PM (CQE5S)
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Whatever it takes.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 06, 2025 03:33 PM (u73oe)
Primus Moronus?
Posted by: m at May 06, 2025 03:57 PM (CQE5S)
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Whatever it takes.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 06, 2025 04:03 PM (u73oe)
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Protecting your sea-going shipping by blasting pirates into fish-food has been among the most important and vital functions of government for centuries. Not just the US, but every nation, going back to antiquity.
Same goes for our status as a nation or a superpower. It was important for us to invade Afghanistan and Iraq to preserve our status as a superpower.
The fuckup wasn't in the invasions, the fuckup was in sticking around and rebuilding them. Powell's "you broke it, you bought it" strategy was a steaming pile of monkey crap.
Protecting your sea-going shipping by blasting pirates into fish-food has been among the most important and vital functions of government for centuries. Not just the US, but every nation, going back to antiquity.
Same goes for our status as a nation or a superpower. It was important for us to invade Afghanistan and Iraq to preserve our status as a superpower.
The fuckup wasn't in the invasions, the fuckup was in sticking around and rebuilding them. Powell's "you broke it, you bought it" strategy was a steaming pile of monkey crap.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 06, 2025 04:03 PM (y9nCu)
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why don't we just concede the Panama Canal to China? We can just go around the Tierra del Feugo if it's really worth going to Asia.
Posted by: ace at May 06, 2025 03:59 PM (KRtlO)
It’s not worth getting to Asia, believe me.
We’re spending a trillion dollars a year to make the world safe for global trade, which had gutted our industry and turned once-great American cities like Detroit into cesspits.
Posted by: ace at May 06, 2025 03:59 PM (KRtlO)
It’s not worth getting to Asia, believe me.
We’re spending a trillion dollars a year to make the world safe for global trade, which had gutted our industry and turned once-great American cities like Detroit into cesspits.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 06, 2025 04:03 PM (l3YAf)
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i'm going to leave it up. I think it's self-discrediting and more revealing than is best for the poster.
I mean, that IS what this is all about. Why hide it?
It's about primitive antisemites pushing their eternal narrative that Crafty Jews are tricking gullible Christians. Let's tear the bandaid off and look at the pus underneath.
I mean, that IS what this is all about. Why hide it?
It's about primitive antisemites pushing their eternal narrative that Crafty Jews are tricking gullible Christians. Let's tear the bandaid off and look at the pus underneath.
Posted by: ace at May 06, 2025 04:04 PM (KRtlO)
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Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 06, 2025 03:49 PM (l3YAf)
How else are you going to find those sweet queens down by the dockyard, Admiral Bill?
Posted by: Kindltot
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Yeah, he is a bulwark.
How else are you going to find those sweet queens down by the dockyard, Admiral Bill?
Posted by: Kindltot
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Yeah, he is a bulwark.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 06, 2025 04:04 PM (qDF8i)
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I have no problems with Tucker the Peacenik (atoning for Iraq, trying to be a consistent Christian) nor his eclectic guest list -- I hate Ben & Jerry, but why not be open to all sides? Do we just want the same stale talking points from the same stale experts and partisans?
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 06, 2025 03:59 PM (wBaIH)
The alternative position is to declare certain topics of discussion, and certain people who are prominent in these areas, to be never be allowed to be heard or read. For safety. And consensus.
And then ace could rechristen the site as Facebook
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 06, 2025 03:59 PM (wBaIH)
The alternative position is to declare certain topics of discussion, and certain people who are prominent in these areas, to be never be allowed to be heard or read. For safety. And consensus.
And then ace could rechristen the site as Facebook
Posted by: Kindltot at May 06, 2025 04:04 PM (D7oie)
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lol @ the Met Gala
Talk about reverting to type!
Democrats just spent the last 8 weeks pretending to be "more relatable" to the common man, too.
lol @ the Met Gala
Talk about reverting to type!
Democrats just spent the last 8 weeks pretending to be "more relatable" to the common man, too.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 06, 2025 04:04 PM (No9Bj)
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>> It was important for us to invade Afghanistan and Iraq to preserve our status as a superpower.
Lol. Lmao, even.
Lol. Lmao, even.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 06, 2025 04:04 PM (l3YAf)
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150 "we shouldn't have trade with anyone, anywhere, and Muslim Pirates are allowed to sack US ships because encouraging Muslim attacks is a great way to stave off a war with Muslims"
I'm reliving fucking 2001-2002.
Posted by: ace at May 06, 2025 04:00 PM (KRtlO)
Yeah, we all are. And we saw how well the decisions made in that era played out for us.
I'm reliving fucking 2001-2002.
Posted by: ace at May 06, 2025 04:00 PM (KRtlO)
Yeah, we all are. And we saw how well the decisions made in that era played out for us.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 06, 2025 04:04 PM (uCjyK)
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I generally like Rand. But as I have told many people, he just has a little too much of his daddy in him.
Posted by: BruceWayne
Believe me, having ANY of your daddy in you is a little too much. WAY too much, actually...
Posted by: BruceWayne
Believe me, having ANY of your daddy in you is a little too much. WAY too much, actually...
Posted by: Ashley Biden at May 06, 2025 04:04 PM (JCZqz)
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139 Afternoon, Horde. I just learned from Ben Had that Jim Sunk New Dawn passed away this morning. What a truly sad thing.
Posted by: Ladyl
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As Jesus stated on the cross, "You will be with me in paradise this day".
Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at May 06, 2025 03:59 PM
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So sad. It seems to have happened so fast. RIP Jim
Posted by: Ladyl
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As Jesus stated on the cross, "You will be with me in paradise this day".
Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at May 06, 2025 03:59 PM
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So sad. It seems to have happened so fast. RIP Jim
Posted by: JM in Illinois at May 06, 2025 04:05 PM (wgMgj)
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I mean are you pretending to be stupid just to slow down the discussion? why do people do this?
Posted by: ace at May 06, 2025 03:58 PM (KRtlO)
Some people just have to poke the bear, or touch the hot grille, or asshoe just to be an asshoe. Most of them are called "democrats" but not all.
Posted by: ace at May 06, 2025 03:58 PM (KRtlO)
Some people just have to poke the bear, or touch the hot grille, or asshoe just to be an asshoe. Most of them are called "democrats" but not all.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 06, 2025 04:05 PM (a4NoL)
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Til we bring back pharmaceuticals in full, we need the dang Chinese ships...gotta solve one problem at a time...
Posted by: Nova Local at May 06, 2025 03:53 PM (tOcjL)
Not that sea lane for us. They can send things to the West Coast, its much closer.
Posted by: Nova Local at May 06, 2025 03:53 PM (tOcjL)
Not that sea lane for us. They can send things to the West Coast, its much closer.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 06, 2025 04:05 PM (8avO+)
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What can possibly be SO NECESSARY from Big Lots?
But...but...but...muh 50th box of Xmas ornaments?
But...but...but...muh 50th box of Xmas ornaments?
Posted by: Archimedes at May 06, 2025 04:05 PM (s8j++)
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Okay, friends. I am off for the afternoon classes, assuming we don’t get hammered by the predicted storm and it’s accompanying floods.
Be kind. Except to some people who are not getting cookies.
Be kind. Except to some people who are not getting cookies.
Posted by: Piper at May 06, 2025 04:05 PM (pZEOD)
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 06, 2025 04:05 PM (4T3aT)
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How much stuff bound for America is passing through the Suez Canal?
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director
I have no numbers, but our company brings in a lot of ou product from Sri Lanka and India, and it does not all go to the US West Coast. And we are just one (relatively) small company.
The Iranians want political leverage on Europe, in particular, to disengage and let them have their way in the Middle East.
"War is hell."
"War is cruelty, and you cannot refine it..."
William T. Sherman
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director
I have no numbers, but our company brings in a lot of ou product from Sri Lanka and India, and it does not all go to the US West Coast. And we are just one (relatively) small company.
The Iranians want political leverage on Europe, in particular, to disengage and let them have their way in the Middle East.
"War is hell."
"War is cruelty, and you cannot refine it..."
William T. Sherman
Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at May 06, 2025 04:05 PM (vcOmj)
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Tucker was entertaining on Fox. Him interviewing left wing nutjobs then tilting his head and staring into the camera incredulously like he's trying to understand a foreign language always cracked me up.
Tucker on his own just doesn't do anything for me he's like a pretentious unfunny watered down Alex Jones now.
Tucker on his own just doesn't do anything for me he's like a pretentious unfunny watered down Alex Jones now.
Posted by: Cmonman at May 06, 2025 04:06 PM (zkREo)
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Not really a shock, Houthis are "at war" with Israel and its 'allies' to support Hamas in Gaza. Iran was sponsoring that in a similar manner to us sponsoring Ukraine and its war.
If they have been defeated now, great perhaps Yemen can get its house in order. Let the Europeans do the nationbuilding, that trade route is not one the US uses much.
Posted by: Oldcat
Lazy people also probably do not know that Houthis were lobbing Iranian supplied missiles into Saudi land to the extent that Saudi Arabia and a few of the emirates actually sent troops into invade N. Yemen to root them out. Did not go well.
Basically the Iranians have taken every piece of shit group in and out of power in the Middle East to use as proxies against its perceived enemies since the Iranian Revolution in 1979. A huge glowing smoking hole back then would have saved the world a lot of grief going forward.
If they have been defeated now, great perhaps Yemen can get its house in order. Let the Europeans do the nationbuilding, that trade route is not one the US uses much.
Posted by: Oldcat
Lazy people also probably do not know that Houthis were lobbing Iranian supplied missiles into Saudi land to the extent that Saudi Arabia and a few of the emirates actually sent troops into invade N. Yemen to root them out. Did not go well.
Basically the Iranians have taken every piece of shit group in and out of power in the Middle East to use as proxies against its perceived enemies since the Iranian Revolution in 1979. A huge glowing smoking hole back then would have saved the world a lot of grief going forward.
Posted by: whig at May 06, 2025 04:06 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: Fox News at May 06, 2025 04:06 PM (jGJov)
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169 Halley Barry, 58.6 years old, was naked at the Met Gala pervert-fest, last night.
Posted by: Soothsayer
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links or it didn't happen
Posted by: Soothsayer
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links or it didn't happen
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 06, 2025 04:06 PM (qDF8i)
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"We don't need them to learn what happened to the Jews the Holocaust. We need them to learn what happened to the Nazis"
-Dave Portnoy
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 06, 2025 04:02 PM (kBh81
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Not Dave Portnoy, someone criticizing Dave Portnoy for his silly junket idea.
-Dave Portnoy
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 06, 2025 04:02 PM (kBh81
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Not Dave Portnoy, someone criticizing Dave Portnoy for his silly junket idea.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 06, 2025 04:06 PM (RIvkX)
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So is it wrong of me to think this is good ?
Posted by: It's me donna at May 06, 2025 04:07 PM (VE6XX)
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Halley Barry, 58.6 years old, was naked at the Met Gala pervert-fest, last night.
Posted by: Soothsayer
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links or it didn't happen
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 06, 2025 04:06 PM (qDF8i)
She was most def naked in swordfish and monsters ball.
Posted by: Soothsayer
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links or it didn't happen
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 06, 2025 04:06 PM (qDF8i)
She was most def naked in swordfish and monsters ball.
Posted by: BruceWayne at May 06, 2025 04:07 PM (MGB5H)
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Let's tear the bandaid off and look at the pus underneath.
Posted by: ace at May 06, 2025 04:04 PM (KRtlO)
I think that condition is treatable, but it could involve antibiotics, leeches and bloodletting.
Posted by: ace at May 06, 2025 04:04 PM (KRtlO)
I think that condition is treatable, but it could involve antibiotics, leeches and bloodletting.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 06, 2025 04:07 PM (a4NoL)
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President Trump has cancelled all the pervert month festivities at the Kennedy Center.
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Omg
Right in the middle of the month before PRIDE month?????
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Omg
Right in the middle of the month before PRIDE month?????
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger at May 06, 2025 04:07 PM (HYKHz)
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Harry, I learned long ago about that question about declared wars. Basically between WWI and WWII plus the early cold war, Congress put all kinds of triggers in case of declared wars that give the president God Emperor status over the economy, immigration, diplomacy, the military and so on.
There are so many of provisions buried in current laws that senior members take junior members of Congress aside and tell them the facts of life. If war is declared, you get FDR WWII elected dictator level power for the president.
Posted by: whig at May 06, 2025 04:03 PM (ctrM5)
I've certainly heard that argument, but the answers are to change the laws or be REALLY REALLY REALLY sure you want a war before you declare one.
Just saying "eh, fuck it, we'll let the Deep State decide when and where to start wars and with who, and if things start going tits up, we'll get the president to endorse our war, the people have no say in this process" hardly seems like a good solution.
There are so many of provisions buried in current laws that senior members take junior members of Congress aside and tell them the facts of life. If war is declared, you get FDR WWII elected dictator level power for the president.
Posted by: whig at May 06, 2025 04:03 PM (ctrM5)
I've certainly heard that argument, but the answers are to change the laws or be REALLY REALLY REALLY sure you want a war before you declare one.
Just saying "eh, fuck it, we'll let the Deep State decide when and where to start wars and with who, and if things start going tits up, we'll get the president to endorse our war, the people have no say in this process" hardly seems like a good solution.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 06, 2025 04:07 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: eleven at May 06, 2025 04:08 PM (fV+MH)
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The alternative position is to declare certain topics of discussion, and certain people who are prominent in these areas, to be never be allowed to be heard or read. For safety. And consensus.
And then ace could rechristen the site as Facebook
Posted by: Kindltot at May 06, 2025 04:04 PM (D7oie)
Or to realize that every human on Earth is wildly wrong or wildly nuts about at least one thing...b/c they are human. So, accept them as they are, but ignore them when they are on their wrong/crazy rants...
Like Ace is with shelves...
And then ace could rechristen the site as Facebook
Posted by: Kindltot at May 06, 2025 04:04 PM (D7oie)
Or to realize that every human on Earth is wildly wrong or wildly nuts about at least one thing...b/c they are human. So, accept them as they are, but ignore them when they are on their wrong/crazy rants...
Like Ace is with shelves...
Posted by: Nova Local at May 06, 2025 04:08 PM (tOcjL)
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Some people just have to poke the bear, or touch the hot grille, or asshoe just to be an asshoe. Most of them are called "democrats" but not all.
Posted by: tcn in AK
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Saw a touch of that from some posters in the ONT the other night. You must have the patience of a saint.
Posted by: tcn in AK
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Saw a touch of that from some posters in the ONT the other night. You must have the patience of a saint.
Posted by: whig at May 06, 2025 04:08 PM (ctrM5)
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The fuckup wasn't in the invasions, the fuckup was in sticking around and rebuilding them. Powell's "you broke it, you bought it" strategy was a steaming pile of monkey crap.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 06, 2025 04:03 PM (y9nCu)
Yeah we did pretty good in nation smashing. Rebuilding is what we suck at.
Let someone else fix Yemen. Rebuilding isn't in the armed forces job description.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 06, 2025 04:03 PM (y9nCu)
Yeah we did pretty good in nation smashing. Rebuilding is what we suck at.
Let someone else fix Yemen. Rebuilding isn't in the armed forces job description.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 06, 2025 04:08 PM (8avO+)
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Our version:
Cheer, cheer for old Saint Ann's High.
You bring the whiskey, I'll bring the rye.
Send the freshmen out for gin
And don't let a sober sophomore in.
Juniors may stumble, seniors may fall.
They'll sober up on good alcohol.
Where are all the faculty? They're drunk on the barroom floor.
Cheer, cheer for old Saint Ann's High.
You bring the whiskey, I'll bring the rye.
Send the freshmen out for gin
And don't let a sober sophomore in.
Juniors may stumble, seniors may fall.
They'll sober up on good alcohol.
Where are all the faculty? They're drunk on the barroom floor.
Posted by: Cosda4 at May 06, 2025 04:09 PM (EJCs6)
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Not Dave Portnoy, someone criticizing Dave Portnoy for his silly junket idea.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 06, 2025 04:06 PM (RIvkX)
Oh. I thought that was him railing against the idiots.
Sounded kind of badass to me, really.
Must have been skimming the day's bullshit too fast.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 06, 2025 04:06 PM (RIvkX)
Oh. I thought that was him railing against the idiots.
Sounded kind of badass to me, really.
Must have been skimming the day's bullshit too fast.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 06, 2025 04:09 PM (kBh81)
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Afternoon, Horde. I just learned from Ben Had that Jim Sunk New Dawn passed away this morning. What a truly sad thing.
Posted by: Ladyl at May 06, 2025 03:33 PM (D6+4s)
Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at May 06, 2025 03:53 PM (vcOmj)
Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck. The world is a poorer place without him. He was a good man and may he have eternal peace.
Posted by: Ladyl at May 06, 2025 03:33 PM (D6+4s)
Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at May 06, 2025 03:53 PM (vcOmj)
Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck. The world is a poorer place without him. He was a good man and may he have eternal peace.
Posted by: Rest In Peace, Jim at May 06, 2025 04:09 PM (TbWk/)
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169 Halley Barry, 58.6 years old, was naked at the Met Gala pervert-fest, last night.
Posted by: Soothsayer
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links or it didn't happen
Posted by: Braenyard
I'll let Megyn Kelly explain
https://is.gd/NeYxgo
169 Halley Barry, 58.6 years old, was naked at the Met Gala pervert-fest, last night.
Posted by: Soothsayer
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links or it didn't happen
Posted by: Braenyard
I'll let Megyn Kelly explain
https://is.gd/NeYxgo
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 06, 2025 04:09 PM (No9Bj)
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Inflation rate in Iran is approaching 45%. The infrastructure on their only real viable product (oil) is old, falling apart, and not maintained. Iran is famous for shoddy workmanship and scams domestically. And, the government's response to the growing economic problems is to borrow against their own bank saturating their predominately isolated country with more currency (raising inflation even more).
We should just sit back and watch them implode.
We should just sit back and watch them implode.
Posted by: Orson at May 06, 2025 04:09 PM (dIske)
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at May 06, 2025 04:09 PM (ufFY8)
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Thousands of Jews used to live in Yemen.
A few Jews visited Yemen today.
Briefly.
Fun fact: Yemen is farther away from Israel than Iran.
A few Jews visited Yemen today.
Briefly.
Fun fact: Yemen is farther away from Israel than Iran.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 06, 2025 04:10 PM (xTIDn)
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182 Til we bring back pharmaceuticals in full, we need the dang Chinese ships...gotta solve one problem at a time...
Posted by: Nova Local at May 06, 2025 03:53 PM (tOcjL)
Not that sea lane for us. They can send things to the West Coast, its much closer.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 06, 2025 04:05 PM (8avO+)
ALL sea lanes are ours. You never want to limit your routes yourself when you are in charge of protecting your national interest. Maybe one day, we'll need something where that sea lane is the most important...or maybe one day, our other route would be blocked by natural catastrophe, war, etc...
Posted by: Nova Local at May 06, 2025 03:53 PM (tOcjL)
Not that sea lane for us. They can send things to the West Coast, its much closer.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 06, 2025 04:05 PM (8avO+)
ALL sea lanes are ours. You never want to limit your routes yourself when you are in charge of protecting your national interest. Maybe one day, we'll need something where that sea lane is the most important...or maybe one day, our other route would be blocked by natural catastrophe, war, etc...
Posted by: Nova Local at May 06, 2025 04:10 PM (tOcjL)
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Disinterested FDA Director at May 06, 2025 11:57 AM (o3mvs)
What a fucking retarded take.
Did this asshole have a known nic before this one? Or is he a new douche on the block?
requoting garrett.
What a fucking retarded take.
Did this asshole have a known nic before this one? Or is he a new douche on the block?
requoting garrett.
Posted by: DaveA at May 06, 2025 04:10 PM (FhXTo)
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Dave Portnoy is being criticized for letting the antisemites off too easy. His other option is just doxxing them and letting them live with the consequences.
I support the latter, but whatever, if he wants to try to be nice, also, whatever.
It's not going to change any minds.
I support the latter, but whatever, if he wants to try to be nice, also, whatever.
It's not going to change any minds.
Posted by: ace at May 06, 2025 04:10 PM (KRtlO)
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Why is Trump bombing a 90's rock band?
Today Hootie, tomorrow Hole.
Posted by: 18-1
/nervously seeks cover
Today Hootie, tomorrow Hole.
Posted by: 18-1
/nervously seeks cover
Posted by: Nickleback at May 06, 2025 04:11 PM (OUMaO)
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 06, 2025 04:11 PM (No9Bj)
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Dave Portnoy is being criticized for letting the antisemites off too easy. His other option is just doxxing them and letting them live with the consequences.
I support the latter, but whatever, if he wants to try to be nice, also, whatever.
It's not going to change any minds.
Posted by: ace at May 06, 2025 04:10 PM (KRtlO)
He did say yesterday that he was rescinding his invite to the one kid and was going after him with everything he had. After the kid lied on the call with him.
I support the latter, but whatever, if he wants to try to be nice, also, whatever.
It's not going to change any minds.
Posted by: ace at May 06, 2025 04:10 PM (KRtlO)
He did say yesterday that he was rescinding his invite to the one kid and was going after him with everything he had. After the kid lied on the call with him.
Posted by: BruceWayne at May 06, 2025 04:11 PM (MGB5H)
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Saw a touch of that from some posters in the ONT the other night. You must have the patience of a saint.
Posted by: whig at May 06, 2025 04:08 PM (ctrM5)
I have nearly no patience whatsoever, but I learned a long time ago to bite my tongue when it is required. I am 29 years old, after all.
Posted by: whig at May 06, 2025 04:08 PM (ctrM5)
I have nearly no patience whatsoever, but I learned a long time ago to bite my tongue when it is required. I am 29 years old, after all.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 06, 2025 04:11 PM (a4NoL)
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I'm reliving fucking 2001-2002.
Posted by: ace at May 06, 2025 04:00 PM (KRtlO)
Me too. Watching neocons tee up another failed war “because terrorism” never gets old. Heck, I’m still gloating over Afghanistan and Iraq.
I really don’t care what happens with all of these pissant countries. You seem to think this means I’m defending the Houthis and not defending America.
Posted by: ace at May 06, 2025 04:00 PM (KRtlO)
Me too. Watching neocons tee up another failed war “because terrorism” never gets old. Heck, I’m still gloating over Afghanistan and Iraq.
I really don’t care what happens with all of these pissant countries. You seem to think this means I’m defending the Houthis and not defending America.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 06, 2025 04:12 PM (l3YAf)
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We should just sit back and watch them implode.
Posted by: Orson at May 06, 2025 04:09 PM (dIske)
How is the military industrial complex supposed to make money off THAT?
Come on now. There's a whole lotta grifting and grafting and corruption to be had in war, you know that!
Posted by: Orson at May 06, 2025 04:09 PM (dIske)
How is the military industrial complex supposed to make money off THAT?
Come on now. There's a whole lotta grifting and grafting and corruption to be had in war, you know that!
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 06, 2025 04:12 PM (uCjyK)
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>>Which US-flag ships have been damaged, sunk or captured by Houthis in Yemen?
Kind of irrelevant. They've been firing missiles at our ships for years. The only reasons they haven't hit our poor aim and inferior weapons. To date.
But they have hit other ships.
I think you probably understand that as much as some might like we don't live in an unconnected world. If the canal is closed to commerce it will mean ships will have to take the longer and more dangerous voyage around Africa. This will raise the costs of goods and damage the US economy all with the rest of the world.
More importantly, it would mean surrendering the canal as a means of travel for our Navy. Which would be idiotic and dangerous.
We did not start anything with the Houthis. We did not ask for war. They are an Iranian proxy that is paid to attack us. Ignoring them forever and retreating to our shores was never an option. They missile firing had to stop. I don't want any more wars and apparently we aren't going to have one. But the missiles are stopping.
Kind of irrelevant. They've been firing missiles at our ships for years. The only reasons they haven't hit our poor aim and inferior weapons. To date.
But they have hit other ships.
I think you probably understand that as much as some might like we don't live in an unconnected world. If the canal is closed to commerce it will mean ships will have to take the longer and more dangerous voyage around Africa. This will raise the costs of goods and damage the US economy all with the rest of the world.
More importantly, it would mean surrendering the canal as a means of travel for our Navy. Which would be idiotic and dangerous.
We did not start anything with the Houthis. We did not ask for war. They are an Iranian proxy that is paid to attack us. Ignoring them forever and retreating to our shores was never an option. They missile firing had to stop. I don't want any more wars and apparently we aren't going to have one. But the missiles are stopping.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 06, 2025 04:12 PM (viF8m)
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It's about primitive antisemites pushing their eternal narrative that Crafty Jews are tricking gullible Christians. Let's tear the bandaid off and look at the pus underneath.
Posted by: ace at May 06, 2025 04:04 PM (KRtlO)
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This. And also can we please dispense with using Zionist as a euphemism for Jew? Nine out of 10 people using it mean it as euphemism and have no clue what Zionism is.
Posted by: ace at May 06, 2025 04:04 PM (KRtlO)
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This. And also can we please dispense with using Zionist as a euphemism for Jew? Nine out of 10 people using it mean it as euphemism and have no clue what Zionism is.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 06, 2025 04:12 PM (RIvkX)
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Tucker was entertaining on Fox. Him interviewing left wing nutjobs then tilting his head and staring into the camera incredulously like he's trying to understand a foreign language always cracked me up.
Tucker on his own just doesn't do anything for me he's like a pretentious unfunny watered down Alex Jones now.
Posted by: Cmonman at May 06, 2025 04:06 PM
Candace Owens has entered the chat.
Tucker on his own just doesn't do anything for me he's like a pretentious unfunny watered down Alex Jones now.
Posted by: Cmonman at May 06, 2025 04:06 PM
Candace Owens has entered the chat.
Posted by: Minnfidel at May 06, 2025 04:13 PM (ewjUl)
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Last declaration of war was following Pearl Harbor. Since that time we have had no declarations of war, and no War Department, and have not decisively won any major wars (we sure beat the pants off the Grenadian communists - and their Cuban “volunteers” - and we achieved the very limited goals of the Gulf War in Kuwait superbly!) since then. I’m Jacksonian about war, either we’re in it to win it, or we shouldn’t go in at all!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 06, 2025 04:13 PM (YItOJ)
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200 The fuckup wasn't in the invasions, the fuckup was in sticking around and rebuilding them. Powell's "you broke it, you bought it" strategy was a steaming pile of monkey crap.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 06, 2025 04:03 PM (y9nCu)
Yeah we did pretty good in nation smashing. Rebuilding is what we suck at.
Let someone else fix Yemen. Rebuilding isn't in the armed forces job description.
Posted by: Oldcat
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They didn't submit. They said time out.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 06, 2025 04:03 PM (y9nCu)
Yeah we did pretty good in nation smashing. Rebuilding is what we suck at.
Let someone else fix Yemen. Rebuilding isn't in the armed forces job description.
Posted by: Oldcat
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They didn't submit. They said time out.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 06, 2025 04:13 PM (qDF8i)
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 06, 2025 04:13 PM (No9Bj)
Posted by: Ciampino - Jim, we miss you already at May 06, 2025 04:13 PM (sPQoU)
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I wish Trump wasn't going to the Middle East....
Posted by: It's me donna at May 06, 2025 04:13 PM (VE6XX)
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 06, 2025 04:13 PM (No9Bj)
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Zionism means you're a huge Matrix fan.
Posted by: eleven at May 06, 2025 04:13 PM (fV+MH)
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Trump should stay away from Middle East if he is going.
Posted by: Skip at May 06, 2025 04:14 PM (ypFCm)
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ALL sea lanes are ours. You never want to limit your routes yourself when you are in charge of protecting your national interest. Maybe one day, we'll need something where that sea lane is the most important...or maybe one day, our other route would be blocked by natural catastrophe, war, etc...
Posted by: Nova Local at May 06, 2025 04:10 PM (tOcjL)
Work for the Navy, huh?
Posted by: Nova Local at May 06, 2025 04:10 PM (tOcjL)
Work for the Navy, huh?
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 06, 2025 04:14 PM (l3YAf)
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Let someone else fix Yemen. Rebuilding isn't in the armed forces job description.
Posted by: Oldcat
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They didn't submit. They said time out.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 06, 2025 04:13 PM (qDF8i)
Time out means no missles from them for the near and midterm future...so that's fine. Solves the immediate problem. They can spend their time rebuilding.
Posted by: Oldcat
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They didn't submit. They said time out.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 06, 2025 04:13 PM (qDF8i)
Time out means no missles from them for the near and midterm future...so that's fine. Solves the immediate problem. They can spend their time rebuilding.
Posted by: Nova Local at May 06, 2025 04:14 PM (tOcjL)
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 06, 2025 04:14 PM (No9Bj)
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Halley Barry, 58.6 years old, was naked at the Met Gala pervert-fest, last night.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 06, 2025 03:59 PM (No9Bj)
Ewwww??
Halley Barry, 58.6 years old, was naked at the Met Gala pervert-fest, last night.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 06, 2025 03:59 PM (No9Bj)
Ewwww??
Posted by: tubal at May 06, 2025 04:14 PM (PCK5/)
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>>> Trump: I'll Stop Bombing the Houthis Because They Called Me Up and Totally "Capitulated"
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Does "capitulated" include rolling over on the mullahs who have been pulling their strings?
No? Then keep bombing.
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Does "capitulated" include rolling over on the mullahs who have been pulling their strings?
No? Then keep bombing.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 06, 2025 04:15 PM (/lPRQ)
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Just saying "eh, fuck it, we'll let the Deep State decide when and where to start wars and with who, and if things start going tits up, we'll get the president to endorse our war, the people have no say in this process" hardly seems like a good solution.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 06, 2025 04:07 PM (uCjyK)
Russia actually has levels of engagement built in to its system, which is why they called it an SMO. Putin isn't free without support from their Duma to perform actions and send recruits in their draft callup to war. The invasion was called a SMO so he could operate in Ukraine freely, with limited forces on one front to be able to react, but he had to go to the Duma to build the forces larger and use more regular troops over the ensuing years.
This would probably be a practice to follow for us if we get into these limited wars .. define levels of action between peace and WWIII and set requirements to ask for limited action forces from Congress.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 06, 2025 04:07 PM (uCjyK)
Russia actually has levels of engagement built in to its system, which is why they called it an SMO. Putin isn't free without support from their Duma to perform actions and send recruits in their draft callup to war. The invasion was called a SMO so he could operate in Ukraine freely, with limited forces on one front to be able to react, but he had to go to the Duma to build the forces larger and use more regular troops over the ensuing years.
This would probably be a practice to follow for us if we get into these limited wars .. define levels of action between peace and WWIII and set requirements to ask for limited action forces from Congress.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 06, 2025 04:15 PM (8avO+)
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210 Dave Portnoy is being criticized for letting the antisemites off too easy. His other option is just doxxing them and letting them live with the consequences.
I support the latter, but whatever, if he wants to try to be nice, also, whatever.
It's not going to change any minds.
Posted by: ace at May 06, 2025 04:10 PM (KRtlO)
I get why he's fired up.
I'm not sure what I'd do in his place. Neither option is wonderful-looking (cancellation or reeducation).
I support the latter, but whatever, if he wants to try to be nice, also, whatever.
It's not going to change any minds.
Posted by: ace at May 06, 2025 04:10 PM (KRtlO)
I get why he's fired up.
I'm not sure what I'd do in his place. Neither option is wonderful-looking (cancellation or reeducation).
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 06, 2025 04:15 PM (+n72I)
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I've certainly heard that argument, but the answers are to change the laws or be REALLY REALLY REALLY sure you want a war before you declare one.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
Louis Fisher was a man who was a long time Congressional Research Service guy that called for what you just proposed. He wanted formal declarations of war and called it fairly regardless of the current partisan control of the WH for decades.
Excellent legal scholar of the war clause btw and congressional power in general in such cases.
Basically, the old arrangement was that the president could use the navy and marines to react to any situation worldwide with dispatch (same rationale would apply to the Air Force and Space Force) without declaring war. So the President could and did involve US Navy/Marines much more often than people think (was well over 100--nearly as high as 150 or so) times over the years from almost the beginning of the US.
The army, and general conscription powers, rested with Congress and did formally require a declaration of war.
Re changing the laws, they are often not explicit in what triggers 'emergency' clauses and are a nightmare to research. AI might be able to do it
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
Louis Fisher was a man who was a long time Congressional Research Service guy that called for what you just proposed. He wanted formal declarations of war and called it fairly regardless of the current partisan control of the WH for decades.
Excellent legal scholar of the war clause btw and congressional power in general in such cases.
Basically, the old arrangement was that the president could use the navy and marines to react to any situation worldwide with dispatch (same rationale would apply to the Air Force and Space Force) without declaring war. So the President could and did involve US Navy/Marines much more often than people think (was well over 100--nearly as high as 150 or so) times over the years from almost the beginning of the US.
The army, and general conscription powers, rested with Congress and did formally require a declaration of war.
Re changing the laws, they are often not explicit in what triggers 'emergency' clauses and are a nightmare to research. AI might be able to do it
Posted by: whig at May 06, 2025 04:15 PM (ctrM5)
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Mark your day planner:
SpaceX - Falcon 9 - Starlink 6-93
SLC-40 - Cape Canaveral SFS - Space Affairs Live
Launch Date: May 6, 2025 (EDT)
Launch Time: 8:22 p.m. EDT - May 7, 0022 UTC, 02:22 CEST
https://www.youtube.com/live/sgRMV_wu_TE
SpaceX - Falcon 9 - Starlink 6-93
SLC-40 - Cape Canaveral SFS - Space Affairs Live
Launch Date: May 6, 2025 (EDT)
Launch Time: 8:22 p.m. EDT - May 7, 0022 UTC, 02:22 CEST
https://www.youtube.com/live/sgRMV_wu_TE
Posted by: Ciampino - Jim, we miss you already man at May 06, 2025 04:15 PM (sPQoU)
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The only thing better than bombing near Iran is bombing Iran directly. Maybe the Iranian people and us will get lucky and one of these pushes will finally knock over the mullahs before some Democrat re-steals the White House again.
Posted by: DaveA at May 06, 2025 04:15 PM (FhXTo)
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Ewwww??
Posted by: tubal
Correct, and it Gets Worse. Much Worse!
Watch this and see Vera Wang
//shudders//
Ewwww??
Posted by: tubal
Ewwww??
Posted by: tubal
Correct, and it Gets Worse. Much Worse!
Watch this and see Vera Wang
//shudders//
Ewwww??
Posted by: tubal
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 06, 2025 04:16 PM (No9Bj)
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Mrs. anchorbabe just showed me Pam Anderson from the MET gala.
She is hideous.
Sad!
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop
She doesn't wear makeup anymore. Actually, I thought her bob haircut with the short bangs was kind of cute.
She is hideous.
Sad!
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop
She doesn't wear makeup anymore. Actually, I thought her bob haircut with the short bangs was kind of cute.
Posted by: Tuna at May 06, 2025 04:16 PM (lJ0H4)
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 06, 2025 04:16 PM (No9Bj)
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So sad. It seems to have happened so fast. RIP Jim
Posted by: JM in Illinois at May 06, 2025 04:05 PM (wgMgj)
Since he had ALS, this is the only saving grace.
Posted by: JM in Illinois at May 06, 2025 04:05 PM (wgMgj)
Since he had ALS, this is the only saving grace.
Posted by: Lou Gehrig's is a horrible disease at May 06, 2025 04:16 PM (TbWk/)
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231 140
Halley Barry, 58.6 years old, was naked at the Met Gala pervert-fest, last night.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 06, 2025 03:59 PM (No9Bj)
Ewwww??
Posted by: tubal
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She was the naked sushi provider and caterer for that evening.
Halley Barry, 58.6 years old, was naked at the Met Gala pervert-fest, last night.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 06, 2025 03:59 PM (No9Bj)
Ewwww??
Posted by: tubal
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She was the naked sushi provider and caterer for that evening.
Posted by: whig at May 06, 2025 04:16 PM (ctrM5)
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Yeah, looks like Carney spanked Trump hard in their meeting, calling out all his lies right in the White House. The US does not subsidize Canada.
Posted by: Sid at May 06, 2025 04:17 PM (GNz3z)
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200 We did a pretty good job helping Germany, Japan and Korea rebuild, but they were somewhat civilized nations before their wars. Trying to build nations of warring tribes in the Middle East, Afghanistan and Africa are a waste of American blood and treasure.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 06, 2025 04:17 PM (wBaIH)
Posted by: pahound 13 at May 06, 2025 04:17 PM (meZKJ)
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228 ALL sea lanes are ours. You never want to limit your routes yourself when you are in charge of protecting your national interest. Maybe one day, we'll need something where that sea lane is the most important...or maybe one day, our other route would be blocked by natural catastrophe, war, etc...
Posted by: Nova Local at May 06, 2025 04:10 PM (tOcjL)
Work for the Navy, huh?
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 06, 2025 04:14 PM (l3YAf)
Nope...wrong service. But even if one hasn't, there's a saying about "putting all one's eggs in one basket"...there's a reason for it.
The whole "we can just pacify by staying away" will shrink and shrink the possible sea lanes we'd have til we have none, b/c we'd have proved that savage throwing rocks at us made us run...so more savages in more areas would do it...
Posted by: Nova Local at May 06, 2025 04:10 PM (tOcjL)
Work for the Navy, huh?
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 06, 2025 04:14 PM (l3YAf)
Nope...wrong service. But even if one hasn't, there's a saying about "putting all one's eggs in one basket"...there's a reason for it.
The whole "we can just pacify by staying away" will shrink and shrink the possible sea lanes we'd have til we have none, b/c we'd have proved that savage throwing rocks at us made us run...so more savages in more areas would do it...
Posted by: Nova Local at May 06, 2025 04:17 PM (tOcjL)
Posted by: Space monolith at May 06, 2025 04:18 PM (TbWk/)
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The troll has been trolling since Pixy thread this morning. I knew the mask would drop eventually.
I bet it would be the USS Liberty attack but, oh well.
I bet it would be the USS Liberty attack but, oh well.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 06, 2025 04:18 PM (RIvkX)
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Sid, you ignorant slut.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 06, 2025 04:18 PM (u73oe)
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Just to remind You People how old 58.6 Hailey Berry is...
"Alice" in the Brady Bunch was 43-48 years old on that show.
Just to remind You People how old 58.6 Hailey Berry is...
"Alice" in the Brady Bunch was 43-48 years old on that show.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 06, 2025 04:18 PM (No9Bj)
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237 The only thing better than bombing near Iran is bombing Iran directly. Maybe the Iranian people and us will get lucky and one of these pushes will finally knock over the mullahs before some Democrat re-steals the White House again.
Posted by: DaveA at May 06, 2025 04:15 PM (FhXTo)
Or we can just invade, lose several thousand US troops, occupy the country for a decade or two while we win over the "hearts and minds" of the people who will have "greeted us as liberators" by overthrowing the "tyrants who gas their own people."
Worked so well in Iraq and Afghanistan, so why not do it all over again?
It'll keep the Military Industrial Complex busy for at least a decade, the grift will be flowing to the Deep State, and who cares if hundreds of billions of dollars from the US treasury disappear and thousands of lives of US soldiers are destroyed / lost? That's the way it goes, ya know?
Posted by: DaveA at May 06, 2025 04:15 PM (FhXTo)
Or we can just invade, lose several thousand US troops, occupy the country for a decade or two while we win over the "hearts and minds" of the people who will have "greeted us as liberators" by overthrowing the "tyrants who gas their own people."
Worked so well in Iraq and Afghanistan, so why not do it all over again?
It'll keep the Military Industrial Complex busy for at least a decade, the grift will be flowing to the Deep State, and who cares if hundreds of billions of dollars from the US treasury disappear and thousands of lives of US soldiers are destroyed / lost? That's the way it goes, ya know?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 06, 2025 04:19 PM (uCjyK)
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Trump should send this video to the GOPe Uniparty Senators. Politics, at Trump speed.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 06, 2025 04:19 PM (gSzsT)
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Not Sid, the other troll.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 06, 2025 04:19 PM (RIvkX)
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I'd be happy if Trump bombed the Pritzker's. Soros, too. Not to mention Joe Biden's WH Staff.
Posted by: Pudinhead at May 06, 2025 04:19 PM (pZ64F)
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The grift must flow. The US military loses every war, but they can certainly spend a lot of my money.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 06, 2025 03:53 PM (l3YAf)
The US politicians lose wars, not the military.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 06, 2025 03:53 PM (l3YAf)
The US politicians lose wars, not the military.
Posted by: tankdemon at May 06, 2025 04:19 PM (FVLcK)
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Alice was a man, baby.
Posted by: eleven at May 06, 2025 04:19 PM (fV+MH)
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People do look better later in life now - whether it is a healthier diet, plastic surgery or makeup I don't know.
But...you probably shouldn't be baring it all in public at almost 60.
But...you probably shouldn't be baring it all in public at almost 60.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 06, 2025 04:19 PM (t0Rmr)
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Time out means no missles from them for the near and midterm future...so that's fine. Solves the immediate problem. They can spend their time rebuilding.
Posted by: Nova Local
Yemen has been in a state of war and civil war since the 60's at the very least. Before the Wall fell, it was US proxy N. Yemen versus the godless Marxist South Yemen. After the Wall, they merged and promptly after a short time began fighting a civil war all over again.
Nasty place where khat chewing is the local equivalent of going to a bar and taking home a goat for snuggling after is a treat.
Posted by: Nova Local
Yemen has been in a state of war and civil war since the 60's at the very least. Before the Wall fell, it was US proxy N. Yemen versus the godless Marxist South Yemen. After the Wall, they merged and promptly after a short time began fighting a civil war all over again.
Nasty place where khat chewing is the local equivalent of going to a bar and taking home a goat for snuggling after is a treat.
Posted by: whig at May 06, 2025 04:20 PM (ctrM5)
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Aunt Bee was 58 when she began her role on the Andy Griffith Show.
Aunt Bee was 58 when she began her role on the Andy Griffith Show.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 06, 2025 04:20 PM (No9Bj)
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ALL sea lanes are ours. You never want to limit your routes yourself when you are in charge of protecting your national interest. Maybe one day, we'll need something where that sea lane is the most important...or maybe one day, our other route would be blocked by natural catastrophe, war, etc...
Posted by: Nova Local at May 06, 2025 04:10 PM (tOcjL)
Make a priority list before sending out the carriers. On the rank list, zero percent of the cargo is pharma for the US. Pharma for the EU, sure. But I don't care about cargo costs for the EU.
Posted by: Nova Local at May 06, 2025 04:10 PM (tOcjL)
Make a priority list before sending out the carriers. On the rank list, zero percent of the cargo is pharma for the US. Pharma for the EU, sure. But I don't care about cargo costs for the EU.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 06, 2025 04:20 PM (8avO+)
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Halley Barry, 58.6 years old, was naked at the Met Gala pervert-fest, last night.
Posted by: Soothsayer
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links or it didn't happen
Posted by: Braenyard
https://tinyurl.com/mrxf3rew
It's not nearly as bad as Kanye's wife who was basically naked at some event earlier this year, but it's more than people want to see of her, at least nowadays.
Posted by: Soothsayer
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links or it didn't happen
Posted by: Braenyard
https://tinyurl.com/mrxf3rew
It's not nearly as bad as Kanye's wife who was basically naked at some event earlier this year, but it's more than people want to see of her, at least nowadays.
Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at May 06, 2025 04:20 PM (JCZqz)
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To borrow phrasing from our enemies...
Iran and the Houthis are the little Satan.
Soros, the Uniparty, and the WEF are the big Satan.
Iran and the Houthis are the little Satan.
Soros, the Uniparty, and the WEF are the big Satan.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 06, 2025 04:20 PM (t0Rmr)
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@217
Back in 2003/04 I was on unarmed civilian merchant ship operating between the Med and the Persian Gulf. The Cole had already been hit and the towel heads were running around in speed boats trying to hit shipping with RPGs. I guess they didn't have missiles from Iran yet. When threated our capt only had to radio our Navy and a helicopter would quickly make the offending boat disintegrate. It was a good show.
Back in 2003/04 I was on unarmed civilian merchant ship operating between the Med and the Persian Gulf. The Cole had already been hit and the towel heads were running around in speed boats trying to hit shipping with RPGs. I guess they didn't have missiles from Iran yet. When threated our capt only had to radio our Navy and a helicopter would quickly make the offending boat disintegrate. It was a good show.
Posted by: Cosda4 at May 06, 2025 04:21 PM (EJCs6)
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I assume anything to do with El Presidente Portnoy is a cheap publicity gag. I don't resent his spunk, but I see it for what it typically is.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 06, 2025 04:21 PM (wBaIH)
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links or it didn't happen
Posted by: Braenyard
https://tinyurl.com/mrxf3rew
It's not nearly as bad as Kanye's wife who was basically naked at some event earlier this year, but it's more than people want to see of her, at least nowadays.
Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at May 06, 2025 04:20 PM (JCZqz)
I suppose it's not necessary to say don't click on that
Posted by: Braenyard
https://tinyurl.com/mrxf3rew
It's not nearly as bad as Kanye's wife who was basically naked at some event earlier this year, but it's more than people want to see of her, at least nowadays.
Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at May 06, 2025 04:20 PM (JCZqz)
I suppose it's not necessary to say don't click on that
Posted by: It's me donna at May 06, 2025 04:21 PM (VE6XX)
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I blame Truman for turning the bald eagle's head on the Presidential Seal from facing the arrows to facing the olive branch. Symbols mean things, like changing from a War Department to a Department of Defense. The change in mind required for the change in symbols and names is followed by a change in the realities of the situation.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 06, 2025 04:21 PM (YItOJ)
267
Whenever I read a Sid comment I wonder if his hallucinations are mental illness or drug induced.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 06, 2025 04:22 PM (gSzsT)
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Yemen has a legitimate government that was dislodged with the help of Iran and is now in hiding. Houthis are some mountain dwelling tribe that Iran placed in power and supplied with ballistic missiles. Yes, by all means , let's make sure Iran gets a peaceful nuke.
Posted by: runner at May 06, 2025 04:22 PM (g47mK)
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I still like B-52 carpet bombing as in Nam.
Posted by: Ciampino - life goes fast at May 06, 2025 04:22 PM (sPQoU)
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We’re spending a trillion dollars a year to make the world safe for global trade, which had gutted our industry and turned once-great American cities like Detroit into cesspits.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director
Yeah, Detroit didn't need any help from anybody to turn into a cesspit.
Industry isn't returning there, or Jackson, or Muskegon.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director
Yeah, Detroit didn't need any help from anybody to turn into a cesspit.
Industry isn't returning there, or Jackson, or Muskegon.
Posted by: Auspex at May 06, 2025 04:22 PM (j4U/Z)
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Yemen has been in a state of war and civil war since the 60's at the very least. Before the Wall fell, it was US proxy N. Yemen versus the godless Marxist South Yemen. After the Wall, they merged and promptly after a short time began fighting a civil war all over again.
Nasty place where khat chewing is the local equivalent of going to a bar and taking home a goat for snuggling after is a treat.
Posted by: whig at May 06, 2025 04:20 PM (ctrM5)
All true, but I'm not really in favor of the "you broke it, you buy it" version of foreign intervention thinking.
We shouldn't have gotten involved in the 1960's, just like we shouldn't have been involved in Iran. But here we are.
At some point, we have to walk away, no? Or is this our problem in perpetuity?
Nasty place where khat chewing is the local equivalent of going to a bar and taking home a goat for snuggling after is a treat.
Posted by: whig at May 06, 2025 04:20 PM (ctrM5)
All true, but I'm not really in favor of the "you broke it, you buy it" version of foreign intervention thinking.
We shouldn't have gotten involved in the 1960's, just like we shouldn't have been involved in Iran. But here we are.
At some point, we have to walk away, no? Or is this our problem in perpetuity?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 06, 2025 04:22 PM (uCjyK)
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I suppose it's not necessary to say don't click on that
Posted by: It's me donna
Click on it, donna.
Megyn goes Full Savage and it's great!
https://is.gd/NeYxgo
I suppose it's not necessary to say don't click on that
Posted by: It's me donna
Click on it, donna.
Megyn goes Full Savage and it's great!
https://is.gd/NeYxgo
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 06, 2025 04:22 PM (No9Bj)
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Does this mean the Gay Pride Day Parade scheduled for today in Sanaa' Yemen is cancelled ??????????
Posted by: Buster Hymand at May 06, 2025 04:22 PM (A2iSa)
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Aunt Bee was 58 when she began her role on the Andy Griffith Show.
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A whole lotta muffin on Aunt Bea.
The wider the waistband, the deeper the quicksand.
Aunt Bee was 58 when she began her role on the Andy Griffith Show.
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A whole lotta muffin on Aunt Bea.
The wider the waistband, the deeper the quicksand.
Posted by: Pudinhead at May 06, 2025 04:23 PM (pZ64F)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 06, 2025 04:23 PM (qDF8i)
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If I don't know who Dave Portnoy is, does it make me terribly uninformed ??
Posted by: runner at May 06, 2025 04:23 PM (g47mK)
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Old name: Bab al-Mandab Strait
New name: Donald Trump Strait
New name: Donald Trump Strait
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 06, 2025 04:23 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at May 06, 2025 04:23 PM (ufFY8)
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What we see here is the proper use of intelligence and targeting. Clinton sent missiles and hit an an aspirin factory and some empty rifle ranges. Total waste of missiles and national interest. Trump sends missiles and bombers and hits vital targets.
Huge difference.
Huge difference.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 06, 2025 04:23 PM (W/lyH)
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I’m an American nationalist, and a real patriot. Not someone paid to pretend to be a patriot by the Gay Empire.
I despise all foreigners. I especially hate any of my money going to help foreigners.
I despise the US military. They’ve barely defended our country or our freedoms in a century. If they were actually fighting for our freedoms there’d be 50 million fewer illegal invaders across our borders and a whole lot of dead commies in D.C.
Instead, the Federal gov’t steadily erodes every freedom why the soldiers, sailors, and Marines are on the other side of the world.
I despise all foreigners. I especially hate any of my money going to help foreigners.
I despise the US military. They’ve barely defended our country or our freedoms in a century. If they were actually fighting for our freedoms there’d be 50 million fewer illegal invaders across our borders and a whole lot of dead commies in D.C.
Instead, the Federal gov’t steadily erodes every freedom why the soldiers, sailors, and Marines are on the other side of the world.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 06, 2025 04:23 PM (l3YAf)
281
Did the left win on the Tucker battle after all? I virtually never missed a Tucker episode when he was on Fox. Watched a lot of his long form Fox Nation interviews as well. I didn't always agree with him but always found him worth hearing out. When he was forced out, I missed hearing from him, but gradually got used to it. Then he made his grand return on X, and then to his own podcast. I've looked at it now and then, but very rarely at this point. I just don't feel like I'm missing much. And I'm not that impressed with what he's doing. It makes me wonder if the oversight at FNC was actually good for him. I guess he makes a ton of money, but I don't feel like he has the influence over the right that he used to. Or maybe that's just me. His anti-Israel stuff is truly mystifying.
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at May 06, 2025 04:23 PM (8iNlE)
Posted by: Pudinhead at May 06, 2025 04:23 PM (pZ64F)
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Ciampino that poor man.
Posted by: Skip at May 06, 2025 04:24 PM (ypFCm)
Posted by: DaveA at May 06, 2025 04:24 PM (FhXTo)
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 06, 2025 04:24 PM (No9Bj)
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Old name: Bab al-Mandab Strait
New name: Donald Trump Strait
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 06, 2025 04:23 PM (YqDXo)
Drink!
(If you ever saw the What's Going On With Shipping? guy, you know.)
New name: Donald Trump Strait
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 06, 2025 04:23 PM (YqDXo)
Drink!
(If you ever saw the What's Going On With Shipping? guy, you know.)
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 06, 2025 04:24 PM (ufFY8)
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I suppose it's not necessary to say don't click on that
Posted by: It's me donna
Actually, it's pretty funny (I think). Someone cosplaying Misty from Pokémon who definitely shouldn't.
Posted by: It's me donna
Actually, it's pretty funny (I think). Someone cosplaying Misty from Pokémon who definitely shouldn't.
Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at May 06, 2025 04:24 PM (JCZqz)
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Loved that video Trump posted of a bombing in Yemen of Yemnis in a circle that turned out to be a tribal meeting because that's how villages in Yemen have their meetings. Hearts and minds. What kind of neo term is it for people that don't want that?
Posted by: ryukyu at May 06, 2025 04:24 PM (svdKU)
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Please, Ace, do a Met Gala post! Rip these "relatable" perverts apart!
Please, Ace, do a Met Gala post! Rip these "relatable" perverts apart!
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 06, 2025 04:25 PM (No9Bj)
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All true, but I'm not really in favor of the "you broke it, you buy it" version of foreign intervention thinking.
We shouldn't have gotten involved in the 1960's, just like we shouldn't have been involved in Iran. But here we are.
At some point, we have to walk away, no? Or is this our problem in perpetuity?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 06, 2025 04:22 PM (uCjyK)
We did just walk away...exactly what you wanted. Solved the immediate issue and got out.
We shouldn't have gotten involved in the 1960's, just like we shouldn't have been involved in Iran. But here we are.
At some point, we have to walk away, no? Or is this our problem in perpetuity?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 06, 2025 04:22 PM (uCjyK)
We did just walk away...exactly what you wanted. Solved the immediate issue and got out.
Posted by: Nova Local at May 06, 2025 04:25 PM (tOcjL)
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200 We did a pretty good job helping Germany, Japan and Korea rebuild, but they were somewhat civilized nations before their wars. Trying to build nations of warring tribes in the Middle East, Afghanistan and Africa are a waste of American blood and treasure.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 06, 2025 04:17 PM (wBaIH)
Rome did a decent job over their life in assimilation.
We do not. We don't have anyone looking into the ways to turn a hostile power into a future ally and the means to do it. We just know sitting around with the army's thumb in its butt fails. We know building fortifications under Gazan hospitals fails.
Until or unless we have a branch of government that develops these plans and the skills to implement them I am against all such nation building exercises. We literally do not know how to do it.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 06, 2025 04:17 PM (wBaIH)
Rome did a decent job over their life in assimilation.
We do not. We don't have anyone looking into the ways to turn a hostile power into a future ally and the means to do it. We just know sitting around with the army's thumb in its butt fails. We know building fortifications under Gazan hospitals fails.
Until or unless we have a branch of government that develops these plans and the skills to implement them I am against all such nation building exercises. We literally do not know how to do it.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 06, 2025 04:25 PM (8avO+)
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The wider the waistband, the deeper the quicksand.
Posted by: Pudinhead at May 06, 2025 04:23 PM (pZ64F)
And there's another clever turn of a phrase that I will never use within earshot of Mrs D.
Posted by: Pudinhead at May 06, 2025 04:23 PM (pZ64F)
And there's another clever turn of a phrase that I will never use within earshot of Mrs D.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 06, 2025 04:25 PM (W/lyH)
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I assume anything to do with El Presidente Portnoy is a cheap publicity gag. I don't resent his spunk, but I see it for what it typically is.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 06, 2025 04:21 PM (wBaIH)
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I hate spunk!
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 06, 2025 04:21 PM (wBaIH)
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I hate spunk!
Posted by: Lou Grant at May 06, 2025 04:25 PM (RIvkX)
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267 Whenever I read a Sid comment I wonder if his hallucinations are mental illness or drug induced.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 06, 2025 04:22 PM (gSzsT)
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Pink cocaine. I had never heard of that until this blog so I looked it up in wiki. Man! You really are playing Russian roulette taking that stuff.
I wonder if the pink dye is RJK approved?
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 06, 2025 04:22 PM (gSzsT)
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Pink cocaine. I had never heard of that until this blog so I looked it up in wiki. Man! You really are playing Russian roulette taking that stuff.
I wonder if the pink dye is RJK approved?
Posted by: Ciampino - I can't breathe is not an excuse at May 06, 2025 04:26 PM (sPQoU)
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The US struck the Houthis because last week they fired on one of our carriers, which lost one of its aircraft when it slid overboard.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at May 06, 2025 04:26 PM (iX1qt)
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obligatory now 45 years old
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD4PoTcGbJM
Posted by: DaveA at May 06, 2025 04:24 PM (FhXTo)
Most cromulent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD4PoTcGbJM
Posted by: DaveA at May 06, 2025 04:24 PM (FhXTo)
Most cromulent.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 06, 2025 04:26 PM (ufFY8)
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Please, Ace, do a Met Gala post! Rip these "relatable" perverts apart!
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 06, 2025 04:25 PM (No9Bj)
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Are you trying to have Ace arrested? It's a hate crime for a white blogger to discuss the Met Gala, h8r!
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 06, 2025 04:25 PM (No9Bj)
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Are you trying to have Ace arrested? It's a hate crime for a white blogger to discuss the Met Gala, h8r!
Posted by: ShainS at May 06, 2025 04:27 PM (nuyMR)
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The US politicians lose wars, not the military.
Posted by: tankdemon at May 06, 2025 04:19 PM (FVLcK)
So they’re not to blame, they’re just signing up with an organization that they know will lose.
I’m sure all the money they will milk out of taxpayers over the coming decades has nothing to do with it.
Posted by: tankdemon at May 06, 2025 04:19 PM (FVLcK)
So they’re not to blame, they’re just signing up with an organization that they know will lose.
I’m sure all the money they will milk out of taxpayers over the coming decades has nothing to do with it.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 06, 2025 04:27 PM (l3YAf)
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Were there any white people at the Met Gala?
Posted by: wth at May 06, 2025 04:27 PM (v0R5T)
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If I don't know who Dave Portnoy is, does it make me terribly uninformed ??
Posted by: runner at May 06, 2025 04:23 PM (g47mK)
I just know that he has a complaint.
Posted by: runner at May 06, 2025 04:23 PM (g47mK)
I just know that he has a complaint.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 06, 2025 04:27 PM (8avO+)
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When talking about absolute non-interventionists, I'm reminded of the wise words of the Fonz:
"You got no reputation for toughness. Once in your life, you had to have hit somebody."
If you're going to work off of a reputation, that reputation can't be soft.
"You got no reputation for toughness. Once in your life, you had to have hit somebody."
If you're going to work off of a reputation, that reputation can't be soft.
Posted by: Geoff Shotts at May 06, 2025 04:28 PM (13ivK)
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 06, 2025 04:28 PM (a4NoL)
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Megyn reported that the guy from outkast is moving furniture for a living (and it’s not big boi)
Posted by: Oglebay at May 06, 2025 04:28 PM (2ap+5)
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We did just walk away...exactly what you wanted. Solved the immediate issue and got out.
Posted by: Nova Local at May 06, 2025 04:25 PM (tOcjL)
Er, well, yes. I was not so much responding to Trump having the Houthi's capitulate (that's a good thing), and more to ace's insinuation that the only reason people don't want to continue our perpetual wars against various groups of people in the Middle East and Central Asia, and now even Eastern Europe (and maybe even Asia Asia next!) is because they secretly hate Jewish people.
Posted by: Nova Local at May 06, 2025 04:25 PM (tOcjL)
Er, well, yes. I was not so much responding to Trump having the Houthi's capitulate (that's a good thing), and more to ace's insinuation that the only reason people don't want to continue our perpetual wars against various groups of people in the Middle East and Central Asia, and now even Eastern Europe (and maybe even Asia Asia next!) is because they secretly hate Jewish people.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 06, 2025 04:28 PM (uCjyK)
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http://tinyurl.com/mrxf3rew
Some say don’t click. I clicked: total turn-off (thank God!) and actually kind of funny how unattractive it is.
http://tinyurl.com/mrxf3rew
Some say don’t click. I clicked: total turn-off (thank God!) and actually kind of funny how unattractive it is.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 06, 2025 04:28 PM (YItOJ)
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304 Er, well, yes. I was not so much responding to Trump having the Houthi's capitulate (that's a good thing), and more to ace's insinuation that the only reason people don't want to continue our perpetual wars against various groups of people in the Middle East and Central Asia, and now even Eastern Europe (and maybe even Asia Asia next!) is because they secretly hate Jewish people.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 06, 2025 04:28 PM (uCjyK)
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He's definitely thinking of Tucker in that line of reasoning.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 06, 2025 04:28 PM (uCjyK)
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He's definitely thinking of Tucker in that line of reasoning.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 06, 2025 04:29 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 06, 2025 04:29 PM (No9Bj)
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I’m a “bring the troops home and let the world police itself” guy. But I’m all for bombing pieces of shit like Houthis. As long as it’s just that. Problem is it almost never just a few bombs and away we go. Almost always it turns into a forever war. That’s the fear.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 06, 2025 04:29 PM (xeo0s)
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Aunt Bee was 58 when she began her role on the Andy Griffith Show.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 06, 2025 04:20 PM (No9Bj)
Aunt Bee did butt stuff. Why do you think I was over at Andy's all the time?
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 06, 2025 04:20 PM (No9Bj)
Aunt Bee did butt stuff. Why do you think I was over at Andy's all the time?
Posted by: Zombie Deputy Barney Fife, Astroglide Fanatic at May 06, 2025 04:30 PM (979V4)
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Too bad Megyn Kelly is married... She'd be perfect for Ace.. Same great snark with a touch of cruelty as VDH would say...
Posted by: It's me donna at May 06, 2025 04:30 PM (VE6XX)
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Weird he never thinks that Iran or its many, many terrorist proxy armies are Risking World War Three. Only Israel, and the US, if the US sides with Israel against terrorists.
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Because they're not. It's *opposition* to their ambitions that "risks World War Three."
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Because they're not. It's *opposition* to their ambitions that "risks World War Three."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2025 04:31 PM (WkNQM)
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 06, 2025 04:31 PM (No9Bj)
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308 I’m a “bring the troops home and let the world police itself” guy.
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Imma let the world get in over its head and fully extended and show up with the mostest fastest. Never join a war until the others are exhausted.
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Imma let the world get in over its head and fully extended and show up with the mostest fastest. Never join a war until the others are exhausted.
Posted by: Pudinhead at May 06, 2025 04:31 PM (pZ64F)
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Megyn Kelly needs to eat a few cheeseburgers. She’s always been a bit too thin. Now she’s approaching ick skin and bones level.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 06, 2025 04:32 PM (xeo0s)
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so well in Iraq and Afghanistan,
Both of those would've gone better without Iran and almost did til TFG
Both of those would've gone better without Iran and almost did til TFG
Posted by: DaveA at May 06, 2025 04:32 PM (FhXTo)
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He's definitely thinking of Tucker in that line of reasoning.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 06, 2025 04:29 PM (GBKbO)
I never liked Tucker Carlson, I've always thought he was a grifter, so I can't act like I know exactly what Tucker's up to these days. Occasionally I see clips of him interviewing people on YouTube, I haven't seen anything objectionable, and Tucker 3.0 does seem to be more on my side (anti-interventionalist) than Tucker 2.0, the neocon, so I guess that's a positive development.
But maybe I read too much in to ace's prose here -- I just get annoyed at the "if you don't agree with [x], it's because you're secretly a racist / sexist / homophobe / transphobe / antisemite / whatever" trope.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 06, 2025 04:29 PM (GBKbO)
I never liked Tucker Carlson, I've always thought he was a grifter, so I can't act like I know exactly what Tucker's up to these days. Occasionally I see clips of him interviewing people on YouTube, I haven't seen anything objectionable, and Tucker 3.0 does seem to be more on my side (anti-interventionalist) than Tucker 2.0, the neocon, so I guess that's a positive development.
But maybe I read too much in to ace's prose here -- I just get annoyed at the "if you don't agree with [x], it's because you're secretly a racist / sexist / homophobe / transphobe / antisemite / whatever" trope.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 06, 2025 04:32 PM (uCjyK)
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293 Wow a MTM reference! A little song, a little dance, a little seltzer in your pants.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 06, 2025 04:32 PM (wBaIH)
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Aunt Bee did butt stuff. Why do you think I was over at Andy's all the time?
Posted by: Zombie Deputy Barney Fife
Granny from The Beverly Hillbilles > Aunt Bee. And Irene Ryan was 59 when cast for the role lol
Posted by: Zombie Deputy Barney Fife
Granny from The Beverly Hillbilles > Aunt Bee. And Irene Ryan was 59 when cast for the role lol
Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at May 06, 2025 04:33 PM (JCZqz)
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I'm personally done with both the "Let's not help the Jews out at all, totally not because they're Jews and stuff but they should fight their own battles and if we do we're playing footsie with WWIII" crowd, and the Mark Levin-led gang of retards that think that every time someone has a personal beef with someone who might theoretically be Jewish that we should send our sons to wherever this happened to make sure that not a Jewish hair on one Jewish head is ever hurt.
They're the two dumbass sides of the same stupid coin. How about we, get this, use military force both moderately and judiciously and after careful consideration of the facts, leaning a little more toward what's best for the US and her citizens, and not what's best for either Achmed or Schlemiel thousands of miles away? Is that too much to ask?
They're the two dumbass sides of the same stupid coin. How about we, get this, use military force both moderately and judiciously and after careful consideration of the facts, leaning a little more toward what's best for the US and her citizens, and not what's best for either Achmed or Schlemiel thousands of miles away? Is that too much to ask?
Posted by: ballistic at May 06, 2025 04:33 PM (GyvKT)
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B-52s and B-2s out of the Diego Garcia sun...
See the little Houthi ragheads in Yemen run...
Carpet Bombing Houthis Ragheads moocho fun
MK82s FRAG Little ragheads buns...
See the little Houthi ragheads in Yemen run...
Carpet Bombing Houthis Ragheads moocho fun
MK82s FRAG Little ragheads buns...
Posted by: Col Kurtz at May 06, 2025 04:33 PM (3vVOG)
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280 I despise the US military.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director
Politely and with all due respect sir, fuck off.
Hundreds of thousands serve and follow orders, sacrifice and struggle. You have no clue what the cost of patriotism is for these people.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director
Politely and with all due respect sir, fuck off.
Hundreds of thousands serve and follow orders, sacrifice and struggle. You have no clue what the cost of patriotism is for these people.
Posted by: Auspex at May 06, 2025 04:34 PM (j4U/Z)
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There IS a middle ground between constant interventionism and all out isolationism espoused by many here.
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YEP. also, doing nothing risks WWIii as well. There is no easy way. Prudence is required, but so is fortitude.
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YEP. also, doing nothing risks WWIii as well. There is no easy way. Prudence is required, but so is fortitude.
Posted by: Yep at May 06, 2025 04:36 PM (f1fBt)
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Also, this idea that Iran has no air defense is imbecilic. It's meant to induce people into the idea that zapping Iran is easy - like Iraq!
Posted by: Harlock at May 06, 2025 03:48 PM (55KD0)
They have a deal pending to have Russia give them some anti air defense for certain locations. Or they did.
But in general, you can send raids to blow up Iranian port facilties...but some uninvolved nations buy that oil now. Iran's a big country, our carriers can't reach the whole country. So don't start something we can't finish.
Posted by: Harlock at May 06, 2025 03:48 PM (55KD0)
They have a deal pending to have Russia give them some anti air defense for certain locations. Or they did.
But in general, you can send raids to blow up Iranian port facilties...but some uninvolved nations buy that oil now. Iran's a big country, our carriers can't reach the whole country. So don't start something we can't finish.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 06, 2025 04:37 PM (8avO+)
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Hundreds of thousands serve and follow orders, sacrifice and struggle. You have no clue what the cost of patriotism is for these people.
Posted by: Auspex at May 06, 2025 04:34 PM (j4U/Z)
What are they defending? So far the only answers I’ve gotten in this thread are Chinese pharmaceutical shipments, SEA LANES, and being a “superpower” (lol.)
The US military is just a welfare program. I hate welfare queens, whether they’re on EBT or the GI Bill.
Posted by: Auspex at May 06, 2025 04:34 PM (j4U/Z)
What are they defending? So far the only answers I’ve gotten in this thread are Chinese pharmaceutical shipments, SEA LANES, and being a “superpower” (lol.)
The US military is just a welfare program. I hate welfare queens, whether they’re on EBT or the GI Bill.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 06, 2025 04:38 PM (l3YAf)
Posted by: IrishEi at May 06, 2025 04:39 PM (3ImbR)
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"Can you get me a beer while you're up? If you don't you're Risking World War Three."
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Less than a month before Pride Month?!? Really?
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Less than a month before Pride Month?!? Really?
Posted by: Amuk at May 06, 2025 04:40 PM (iv4RJ)
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What are they defending? So far the only answers I’ve gotten in this thread are Chinese pharmaceutical shipments, SEA LANES, and being a “superpower” (lol.)
The US military is just a welfare program. I hate welfare queens, whether they’re on EBT or the GI Bill.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 06, 2025 04:38 PM (l3YAf)
If you really are this dumb, try and conceal it.
The US military is just a welfare program. I hate welfare queens, whether they’re on EBT or the GI Bill.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 06, 2025 04:38 PM (l3YAf)
If you really are this dumb, try and conceal it.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 06, 2025 04:41 PM (8avO+)
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Megyn is cracking me up
Posted by: Skip at May 06, 2025 04:42 PM (ypFCm)
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If you really are this dumb, try and conceal it.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 06, 2025 04:41 PM (8avO+)
Ok, what freedoms is the US military defending? How much safer have they made our country? Answer honestly.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 06, 2025 04:41 PM (8avO+)
Ok, what freedoms is the US military defending? How much safer have they made our country? Answer honestly.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 06, 2025 04:43 PM (l3YAf)
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You can question a lot of things but one thing we can all agree on is that criticism of Israel and anything it does is driven by anti Semitism
Posted by: Deceased Head Footyball Coach Howard Schnellenberger at May 06, 2025 04:44 PM (YZhRl)
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FDA Director sounds like leftists from the 1990s and 2000s.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at May 06, 2025 04:45 PM (iX1qt)
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"If you really are this dumb, try and conceal it."
This is not dumb, its something else. It's poking people with a stick.
This is not dumb, its something else. It's poking people with a stick.
Posted by: Francis at May 06, 2025 04:45 PM (bbuBP)
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Click on it, donna.
Megyn goes Full Savage and it's great!
https://is.gd/NeYxgo
Posted by: Soothsayer a
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That's why you can't take Megyn seriously. First she misnames the vulva and second you can't see it as she says you can. Megyn continues to be clickbait.
Megyn goes Full Savage and it's great!
https://is.gd/NeYxgo
Posted by: Soothsayer a
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That's why you can't take Megyn seriously. First she misnames the vulva and second you can't see it as she says you can. Megyn continues to be clickbait.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 06, 2025 04:47 PM (qDF8i)
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I feel like everyone is dancing around the real issue, which is the core beliefs of the former Ron Paul gang.
As far as they are concerned, America is always and everywhere the evil aggressor. Many of them believe the Cold War happened because the US was "threatening" Russia and that Russia was conquering and occupying its neighbors because of fear of "American aggression." The US kept the Cold War going so defense companies could make money, and we could have had a wonderful and peaceful world if we stopped threatening and terrorizing the poor Russians.
This worldview applies to every conflict they look at. As far as they are concerned, the Houthis are reacting to "Israeli aggression" and Israel is making trouble because the US is inciting them do it. As far as the Tucker Carlson/Ron Paul gang are concerned, if the US would stop supporting Israeli aggression, the Houthis would stop bombing our ships and Iran would become our best fwend.
Essentially, aggression against the US is always justified because the US is "interfering too much" in other countries, and we should disband the entire military and stop interfering in other countries. Then we would have world peace.
As far as they are concerned, America is always and everywhere the evil aggressor. Many of them believe the Cold War happened because the US was "threatening" Russia and that Russia was conquering and occupying its neighbors because of fear of "American aggression." The US kept the Cold War going so defense companies could make money, and we could have had a wonderful and peaceful world if we stopped threatening and terrorizing the poor Russians.
This worldview applies to every conflict they look at. As far as they are concerned, the Houthis are reacting to "Israeli aggression" and Israel is making trouble because the US is inciting them do it. As far as the Tucker Carlson/Ron Paul gang are concerned, if the US would stop supporting Israeli aggression, the Houthis would stop bombing our ships and Iran would become our best fwend.
Essentially, aggression against the US is always justified because the US is "interfering too much" in other countries, and we should disband the entire military and stop interfering in other countries. Then we would have world peace.
Posted by: Doomberg at May 06, 2025 04:50 PM (MyBHO)
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324 The US military is just a welfare program. I hate welfare queens, whether they’re on EBT or the GI Bill.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director
You hate all right. Now go punch out some mentally ill woman who gets in your face 'cause she has it coming.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director
You hate all right. Now go punch out some mentally ill woman who gets in your face 'cause she has it coming.
Posted by: Auspex at May 06, 2025 04:50 PM (j4U/Z)
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Rome did a decent job over their life in assimilation.
We do not. We don't have anyone looking into the ways to turn a hostile power into a future ally and the means to do it. We just know sitting around with the army's thumb in its butt fails. We know building fortifications under Gazan hospitals fails.
Until or unless we have a branch of government that develops these plans and the skills to implement them I am against all such nation building exercises. We literally do not know how to do it.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 06, 2025 04:25 PM (8avO+)
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Our problem is that we're insufficiently brutal. The Romans did not have that problem. They co-opt the leadership in conquered lands, and crucify people who caused problems.
Result: no problems.
We do not. We don't have anyone looking into the ways to turn a hostile power into a future ally and the means to do it. We just know sitting around with the army's thumb in its butt fails. We know building fortifications under Gazan hospitals fails.
Until or unless we have a branch of government that develops these plans and the skills to implement them I am against all such nation building exercises. We literally do not know how to do it.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 06, 2025 04:25 PM (8avO+)
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Our problem is that we're insufficiently brutal. The Romans did not have that problem. They co-opt the leadership in conquered lands, and crucify people who caused problems.
Result: no problems.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 06, 2025 04:59 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 06, 2025 05:01 PM (YqDXo)
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Just so we are all aware, these same people have super strong feelings about illegal immigration, climate change, the economy, taxes, etc. and we really need to hear what they have to say on these important subjects.
Posted by: El Mariachi at May 06, 2025 05:09 PM (D1vbu)
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Houthis blowing up ships in the Red Sea is a threat. Russia conquering Ukraine is a threat. A threat to what? The ways things are now.
What comes after the way things are now? Don't know. Do you want to find out? You might, no matter what the US does.
Anyways, if you think Israel has a right to exist, why wouldn't you think Ukraine has the right to exist. Both went through genocide in the 20th century, but Moscow still exists as a world power in the 21st.
What comes after the way things are now? Don't know. Do you want to find out? You might, no matter what the US does.
Anyways, if you think Israel has a right to exist, why wouldn't you think Ukraine has the right to exist. Both went through genocide in the 20th century, but Moscow still exists as a world power in the 21st.
Posted by: Bedde Danelson at May 06, 2025 05:11 PM (Yp6nz)
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You are correct.
Posted by: A man afraid of the LGBT lobby at May 06, 2025 05:12 PM (5DTn7)
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Maybe Trump stopped bombing Yemen because Israel is doing it for us. Nothing new to the idea that proxies can fight on our behalf, and Trump has stopped impeding the arms shipments to Israel.
Maybe we - WE - don't have to dirty our hands with that anymore.
Trying to make a deal with the Iranians, on the other hand, is a head-scratcher.
Maybe we - WE - don't have to dirty our hands with that anymore.
Trying to make a deal with the Iranians, on the other hand, is a head-scratcher.
Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at May 06, 2025 05:14 PM (bufu1)
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I thought she was misnaming to play on words, she isn't stupid to now the language
Posted by: Skip at May 06, 2025 05:17 PM (ypFCm)
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"the government of Yemen will shut down or at least curb the terrorists it's currently tolerating"
From what I've read the government of Yemen doesn't actually control Yemen.
From what I've read the government of Yemen doesn't actually control Yemen.
Posted by: Pooklord at May 06, 2025 06:03 PM (asU3w)
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Probably the most basic and fundamental duty of any Navy, including ours, is to protect shipping and trade lines.
Posted by: Pooklord at May 06, 2025 06:08 PM (asU3w)
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I think Trump's answer is that perfect middle ground. We're not going to go full on war, where we put our troops in danger, but we're not going to sit by and do nothing, so instead we'll just bomb you from a far without giving a shit.
Everyone always screamed that we couldn't do anything to Russia, but then Trump dropped a MoaB on their troops and Russia's response was to do jack shit. Same when they said we can't hit Iran, it'll start WW3, and he vaporized their top general.
Most countries don't want a fight with the US, because they no that it's a no win for their leader, that any outcome will end up with the leader/leaders dead. And as much as these guys hates there US, they also would hate to have to live in a cave for 10 yards, they love their luxury.
Everyone always screamed that we couldn't do anything to Russia, but then Trump dropped a MoaB on their troops and Russia's response was to do jack shit. Same when they said we can't hit Iran, it'll start WW3, and he vaporized their top general.
Most countries don't want a fight with the US, because they no that it's a no win for their leader, that any outcome will end up with the leader/leaders dead. And as much as these guys hates there US, they also would hate to have to live in a cave for 10 yards, they love their luxury.
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