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Daily Tech News 4 May 2025

Top Story

  • All the major browsers are set to lose their funding. (Dan Fabulich)

    Google pays 80% of the budget for Safari and Mozilla, Edge is just Chrome, and Chrome actually is Chrome. So with Google's illegal practices on multiple fronts coming to a head with the company losing two antitrust cases, the whole metastatic structure is set to implode.

    More than that, Google's payments to Apple, which are likely to end abruptly, cover 60% of the latter company's total R&D budget.


  • Waah says Mozilla. (The Verge)

    And nothing of value was lost. Mozilla killed itself off as a realistic option years ago.


Tech News

  • Nvidia's RTX 5060 Ti 8GB model loses up to 10 percent of performance when running with PCIe 4.0. (Tom's Hardware)

    That's accurate in itself, but the main story is don't even think about buying the 8GB model.

    For example, playing Dragon Age Veilguard - which nobody does; the game flopped hard - the 16GB card achieves a reasonable 57 fps at 1440p, dropping very slightly to 56.9 fps when using a PCIe 4.0 slot. Fair enough and in line with other tests. Even the 5090 only loses a couple of percentage points in performance with a PCIe 4.0 slot.

    With the 8GB model, performance drops to just 34 fps. And with the 8GB model in a PCIe 4.0 slot, it can't even manage 5 fps.

    Most games cope better than that, but some games were even worse. The new Indiana Jones game would not run at all on the 8GB version with the same settings used on the 16GB card, and Spider-Man 2 ran but crashed often enough on the 8GB card to make it a truly miserable experience.

    The two 5060 Ti models share a name, but the 16GB model is adequate, while the 8GB model is simply inadequate.


  • How to use RegEdit to totally brick Windows instead of clicking a button when it's slow to reboot. (Tom's Hardware)

    Do not do this.


Musical Interlude




Disclaimer: Do not.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at 04:30 AM




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1 BOING!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 04, 2025 04:31 AM (2hHY4)

2 Morning, 'rons and 'ettes.

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 04, 2025 04:32 AM (azT8A)

3 Nooded.

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 04, 2025 04:32 AM (azT8A)

4 Oh look......people!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 04, 2025 04:34 AM (a1415)

5 DataRepublican: "Let's talk about Madeline Albright."

https://tinyurl.com/ayp8scmp

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 04, 2025 04:35 AM (2hHY4)

6 Oh look......people!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 04, 2025 04:34 AM (a1415)
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https://youtu.be/fOw4oLg4N14

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 04, 2025 04:36 AM (2hHY4)

7 Andrew Breitbart was right.

"WAR!"

https://tinyurl.com/32b62yw6

Believe them when they tell you.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 04, 2025 04:38 AM (2hHY4)

8 Is Pale Moon still good.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 04, 2025 04:38 AM (VWf79)

9 It's not computer tech...but I think it qualifies under just general 'Tech'

Tomorrow I get to master the intricacies of the FLIR One Pro Thermal Imaging Camera for HVAC diagnostics.

Seems that my HVAC guys are behind the knowledge curve on properly setting up the parameters on a full communicating, full variable heat pump and air handler.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 04, 2025 04:39 AM (a1415)

10 Not saying that the system is interesting, but JUST the thermostat is over $1,000.00.

Now you may ask what the heck needs to be so complex that the thermostat itself is a thousand bucks, it just sets on the wall and makes the room feel like what you want.

But that is kinda like being on the surface and looking at a submarine at periscope depth, and saying " It's just a moving pipe in the water, how complicated does it need to be?'

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 04, 2025 04:45 AM (a1415)

11 "Oh look......people!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 04, 2025 04:34 AM (a1415)
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https://youtu.be/fOw4oLg4N14"


I love that clip!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 04, 2025 04:46 AM (a1415)

12 G0od morning, good people in this thread also, with the same benisons as per the ONT.

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at May 04, 2025 04:47 AM (hKoQL)

13 SpaceX - Falcon 9 - Starlink 6-84
LC-39A - Kennedy Space Center - SPACE AFFAIRS
Launch Date: May 4, 2025
Launch Time: 4:53 a.m. EDT, 0853 UTC, 10:53 CEST

https://www.youtube.com/live/58SRnAXmN0g

Posted by: Ciampino - spectacular at May 04, 2025 04:48 AM (sPQoU)

14 So in response to my complaint that there is incorrect humidity control, the tech ( Amongst other things) sets his hand held temt/humidity sensor on top of the thermostat, and adjusts the thermostat to read the same temp as his handheld unit. I take my similar device and lay it next to his and they all now agree on the indicated temperature. So we are good on that step, right?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 04, 2025 04:50 AM (a1415)

15 benisons

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at May 04, 2025 04:47 AM (hKoQL)
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New word for me.

Had to look it up in the benedictionary.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 04, 2025 04:51 AM (2hHY4)

16 But wait..Every other sensor that I own disagrees with this by a consistent two degrees lower than the thermostat shows. And having seven of them by several manufacturers, and when placing them next to each other, they stabilize within .2 degrees of each other, but not the wall thermostat, nor my hand held unit resting on top of the thermostat on the wall.

BUT...when I place my handheld unit amongst the other devices in the table next to the thermostat, it settles into agreeing with the rest of them within .2 degrees as well.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 04, 2025 04:54 AM (a1415)

17 I'm pretty sure the this Oakland CA restaurant will not be reopening - at least not in California:

https://tinyurl.com/34f9sn4r

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 04, 2025 04:57 AM (2hHY4)

18 hi!

Posted by: clarence at May 04, 2025 04:59 AM (Er/qb)

19 "The best way to get to choice is not always a choice screen.”


Die, Silicon Valley, die.

Posted by: 13times at May 04, 2025 05:00 AM (63XLm)

20 So I take my hand held non-contact infrared thermometer and start poking around on the wall with readings.

It seems that a thousand dollar, full communicating thermostat comes with some very serious computing power. The kind of power that generates..well...heat!

And this heat rises up through the thermostat housing through the vents on top ( Remember where we each placed our hand held devices to ensure that the thermostat was reading correctly), and in a 72 degree room, causes the TOP of the thermostat to heat up to as much as 85 degrees, causing even the wall above the thermostat to be at an elevated temperature for almost 9 inches above the thermostat.

So.....we each have some learning to do.

And that is only the beginning of the perimeter set point issues that wee have to deal with.

Gonna be fun.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 04, 2025 05:01 AM (a1415)

21 "I'm pretty sure the this Oakland CA restaurant will not be reopening - at least not in California:"

Damn...

It's worth taking the time to read the comments as well.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 04, 2025 05:03 AM (a1415)

22 4 Oh look......people!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 04, 2025 04:34 AM (a1415)

GOOD people! Tech-curious people!

Posted by: m at May 04, 2025 05:08 AM (CQE5S)

23 "GOOD people! Tech-curious people!"

I identify as tech adjacent.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 04, 2025 05:10 AM (a1415)

24
g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 04, 2025 05:11 AM (tljrc)

25 17 I'm pretty sure the this Oakland CA restaurant will not be reopening - at least not in California:

https://tinyurl.com/34f9sn4r
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 04, 2025 04:57 AM (2hHY4)

Yikes.

Posted by: m at May 04, 2025 05:15 AM (CQE5S)

26 Google pays 80% of the budget for Safari and Mozilla

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I'm not even sure what to comment here.

It's amazing how much of America and American lives are controlled by Google. IIRC there was research done to show that they influence something like 24M votes in elections. In that same talk (by a rabid Democrat BTW) it was discussed how they told likely D voters it was election day, how to vote, where to vote, etc on their phones.

likely (R) voter phones continued operating like any other day.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Nose rings and tattoos show you her trauma is her personality at May 04, 2025 05:15 AM (Ji8U7)

27 She seems nice..

https://tinyurl.com/2saamddt




So does he...
https://tinyurl.com/298tm46k

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 04, 2025 05:16 AM (a1415)

28 Going to grab some toast. Feeling a little techish this morning.

Posted by: m at May 04, 2025 05:17 AM (CQE5S)

29 Lasting joy- Christian devotional based on Psalm 16:

tinyurl.com/yszc3wkk

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 04, 2025 05:17 AM (dKL5S)

30 The two 5060 Ti models share a name, but the 16GB model is adequate, while the 8GB model is simply inadequate.
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I saw where these are in stock for ordering at Amazon for MSRP. I assume the 16GB is same as the 4060 model and is aimed at the Stable Diffusion crowd, but yeah, they probably shouldn't even be offering an 8GB model any longer. I guess they hope to make up for the inadequate performance with software parlor tricks, all while charging functioning hardware prices.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Nose rings and tattoos show you her trauma is her personality at May 04, 2025 05:19 AM (Ji8U7)

31 She seems nice- really:

Grandma fixes dog’s beloved toy:

https://tinyurl.com/26b4zcj3

From “Faithpot” site

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 04, 2025 05:20 AM (dKL5S)

32 Memes:

Powerline - https://tinyurl.com/22c4mcec+
Sarah Hoyt - https://accordingtohoyt.com/

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 04, 2025 05:23 AM (ExV1e)

33 He also seems nice. Sanitation worker in SC dances for little boy and he dances back:

https://tinyurl.com/549dj72z

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 04, 2025 05:24 AM (dKL5S)

34 Mornin'

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at May 04, 2025 05:25 AM (9NknE)

35 G'Day everyone
Late to this party, coffee gone yet?

Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2025 05:25 AM (ypFCm)

36 "This hurts. I genuinely wanted to do something meaningful for us-for our people. We deserve to have something that's ours. But the response I got makes me feel like giving up..."

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I almost feel bad for the guy. He's not much different than the fat smoke-detector chick in that video from a couple of days ago who went to Ghana and who was convinced she was moving to Wakanda.

Spoiler alert: Your people. Stop seeing them (and yourself) as different. Stop being a hyphenated American or encouraging the absurd statements about "kings" and "queens" while embracing the worst, most destructive matriarchy you can manage to create. Be American. Embrace Western Civilization and see if it works better.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Nose rings and tattoos show you her trauma is her personality at May 04, 2025 05:26 AM (Ji8U7)

37
Good morning, Hordians.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 04, 2025 05:28 AM (QnmlO)

38 "So in response to my complaint that there is incorrect humidity control, the tech ( Amongst other things) sets his hand held temt/humidity sensor on top of the thermostat, and adjusts the thermostat to read the same temp as his handheld unit. I take my similar device and lay it next to his and they all now agree on the indicated temperature. So we are good on that step, right?"

Well, I've noticed that Texas doesn't appear to think that it would be a good idea for hot air to be introduced at ground level. While it's certainly true that most of the time here you are introducing cool air at the ceiling level to drift down, there is a non-trivial amount of days where you'd like to introduce hot air near the floor where it will drift up to warm the space.

Yes, I know about ceiling fans.

Posted by: Richard Cranium at May 04, 2025 05:29 AM (o9wPv)

39 We deserve to have something that's ours.

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Also that's hilarious.

Sir, everything you have is yours.

And everything everyone else has is yours.

There is nowhere that you can't walk into, be seated, and peacefully eat without much trouble. If you're even spoken to harshly in a raised voice it's a federal crime.

Would a hispanic or oriental person be able to say the same if they'd entered your restaurant that night?

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Nose rings and tattoos show you her trauma is her personality at May 04, 2025 05:30 AM (Ji8U7)

40 Texas Roadhouse employees go above and beyond for beloved dog’s last meal:

https://tinyurl.com/38zwft4s

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 04, 2025 05:31 AM (dKL5S)

41 It seems that a thousand dollar, full communicating thermostat comes with some very serious computing power. The kind of power that generates..well...heat!

-

Oh jeez.

Yeah, what could possibly go wrong?

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Nose rings and tattoos show you her trauma is her personality at May 04, 2025 05:32 AM (Ji8U7)

42
I don't X. What are the comments?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 04, 2025 05:32 AM (QnmlO)

43 Happy Sunday friends

Posted by: actually inside the beltway at May 04, 2025 05:33 AM (BW+Gb)

44 42 I don't X. What are the comments?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 04, 2025 05:32 AM (QnmlO)

#metoo

Posted by: m at May 04, 2025 05:35 AM (CQE5S)

45 Yes.
Glad others are awake . Coffee is getting old, but can make a new pot.

Posted by: OkJohn at May 04, 2025 05:36 AM (NC/it)

46 Birdbath status?

Posted by: Just Wondering at May 04, 2025 05:37 AM (dg+HA)

47 FenSpouse and I had a lovely time at the wedding for my young friend - well about 35 -at the RC Church . Between the wedding and time for the reception we walked two blocks ti the beach where we had a cofffee and looked at the beautiful ocean and saw very large, colorful kites flying in the breeze.

I did have some difficulty understanding the priest who had a very heavy accent but I got the part about love like a plant needs to be a growing thing.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 04, 2025 05:41 AM (UeMWQ)

48 "Yes, I know about ceiling fans."

In theory, that seldom used, often overlooked slide switch on most ceiling fans will switch rotation from 'summer' to 'winter'.

Or as I recently asked a friend who had asked me to look at their A/C...' Do you ever switch the fan from winter to summer, cause it's running in winter right now?'


Her answer....

" What switch?'

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 04, 2025 05:42 AM (a1415)

49 we walked two blocks to the beach

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 04, 2025 05:41 AM (UeMWQ)
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Does that mean spouse's gout is better?

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 04, 2025 05:46 AM (2hHY4)

50 "Oh jeez.

Yeah, what could possibly go wrong?

The brands slogan is 'Perfect air'

My position is that perfect air requires precision accuracy, and precise operating set points.

You want to advertise that a system will maintain temps within 1/2 to 1 degree, you had better have the right components running at the right speeds at the right time.

And it all really starts with accurate room temperature, when dealing with zoned units.

And cooling/heating schedules.

And compressor and air handler speeds.

Otherwise, zones argue with each other, and duct temps never get cool enough for proper humidity control.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 04, 2025 05:47 AM (a1415)

51 And it all really starts with accurate room temperature, when dealing with zoned units.

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Seems like some cheapo remote thermometer sending units in two or more rooms (and well away from heat generating sources like the thermostat) would be a great selling point.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Nose rings and tattoos show you her trauma is her personality at May 04, 2025 05:48 AM (Ji8U7)

52 Morning, Tech Peeps

Posted by: fluffy at May 04, 2025 05:50 AM (AN2gy)

53 The brands slogan is 'Perfect air'

My position is that perfect air requires precision accuracy, and precise operating set points.

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In fairness, you're remembering Heritage America while they probably thought it sounded cool and might offer a good opportunity for a neat logo design.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Nose rings and tattoos show you her trauma is her personality at May 04, 2025 05:51 AM (Ji8U7)

54 Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 04, 2025 05:46 AM (2hHY4

Thanks for asking. Much less pain. I think the gout pill helped. He was even able to dance twice at the reception, so maybe it wasn’t gout, just a hurting knee after carrying boxes upstairs.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 04, 2025 05:53 AM (B0gD0)

55 Mr. Blue Sky

https://youtu.be/74t0MkMOe58

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at May 04, 2025 05:53 AM (eQQhT)

56 Australia had elections.

Australia PM Albanese makes stunning comeback with landslide win (BBC)

Posted by: m at May 04, 2025 05:54 AM (CQE5S)

57 "Seems like some cheapo remote thermometer sending units in two or more rooms (and well away from heat generating sources like the thermostat) would be a great selling point."

That is the basic premise of zone control with this.

Upstairs is a dumb thermostat that reports to the master thermostat located downstairs.

The master thermostat is the only unit that has humidity control set-points.

When not using scheduling, you can set upstairs temp differently from downstairs, but when running in scheduled mode, the schedule and temp set points are slaved to the master thermostat.

And on top of that, if the tech incorrectly sets the high and low CFM set points for heating and cooling the zones, it throws everything out of wack.

AND, if you set the master high and low set points incorrectly ( Another step in setting the system up), it prevents the individual zone CFM requirements from being controlled properly. Hence the poor humidity control that I have.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 04, 2025 05:55 AM (a1415)

58 Australia PM Albanese makes stunning comeback with landslide win (BBC)

Posted by: m at May 04, 2025 05:54 AM (CQE5S)

Canada also got boned by the BBC.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at May 04, 2025 05:56 AM (eQQhT)

59 A good analog thermostat back in the day was at my parents. Set thermostat to 68F like Jimmy wanted and it did the rest year round. Its replacement wasn’t as smart. Needed to switch from “heat” to “cool”

Posted by: Common Tater at May 04, 2025 05:58 AM (ZSozY)

60 >>> It seems that a thousand dollar, full communicating thermostat comes with some very serious computing power. The kind of power that generates..well...heat!

Something about observing the system changing the system.

Posted by: fluffy at May 04, 2025 05:58 AM (AN2gy)

61 Did I kill the mood ?

https://youtu.be/ZPQuTr2varU

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at May 04, 2025 05:58 AM (eQQhT)

62 "In fairness, you're remembering Heritage America while they probably thought it sounded cool and might offer a good opportunity for a neat logo design."


After downloading and reading the installer instructions for all the components for five days, I can say that if set up correctly, this is an amazing system, with capabilities that will amaze you.

BUT...it takes setting aside the old rules of thumb that most tech's grew up with. And an incredible attention to detail during set-up and validation.

It's the south...or as the tech told me.." Mr VIA, round these parts, most folks won't spend what you spent for this system. There are only like six of them in the entire lowcountry' as well as ' most of the stuff this thing does, I don't even know how it does it, and it takes multiple visits too get it set up right'.

And after really getting my brain into how everything interacts, it's really simple, but you gotta do all the steps in commissioning the unit, in the correct order, with proper calculations.

And it's the south..

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 04, 2025 06:02 AM (a1415)

63 55 Mr. Blue Sky

https://youtu.be/74t0MkMOe58
Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at May 04, 2025 05:53 AM (eQQhT)

Supercool!

54K views 9 days ago

Posted by: m at May 04, 2025 06:03 AM (CQE5S)

64 Supercool!

54K views 9 days ago

Posted by: m at May 04, 2025 06:03 AM (CQE5S)


I looked up an ELO version. Found Wembley 1997. Very similar but ELO had about 12 people on stage. The guitar solo by Chen here is almost note-for-note the same as Jeff Lynne's version.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at May 04, 2025 06:05 AM (eQQhT)

65 Hope you're feeling better today, Pixy!

Posted by: m at May 04, 2025 06:08 AM (CQE5S)

66 Tea. Earl Grey. Hot.

Rejoinder: Grrrruuuuuuuusssssss.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at May 04, 2025 06:08 AM (6YdsJ)

67 How is the build quality and components? The design might be good, but if they cheap out on parts, it may not last very long. Electrolytic capacitors are a weak spot for example.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 04, 2025 06:09 AM (+J6xK)

68 And it's the south..

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Ha.

"this unit requires precise humidity control"

Hold my beer.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Nose rings and tattoos show you her trauma is her personality at May 04, 2025 06:13 AM (Ji8U7)

69 "Something about observing the system changing the system."

Yup.

To their credit, the tech manual discusses the designed ability to 'after using external temperature sensing equipment' adjusting the thermostat indicated temperature +/- 10 degrees during set-up.

It's all there, but you gotta read the manual. And it involves math.
It doesn't involve duct tape and caulking.

And..did I mention, it's in the south.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 04, 2025 06:13 AM (a1415)

70 "How is the build quality and components?"

From everything I have seen, it's all first rate.

Very impressed with it.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 04, 2025 06:14 AM (a1415)

71 69 And it involves math.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 04, 2025 06:13 AM (a1415)

*shifty eyes*

Posted by: m at May 04, 2025 06:20 AM (CQE5S)

72 And I haven't even gotten to the part about the existence of a fresh air damper.

Controlled by the zone board, and intended to only open and draw in fresh air when there is a conditioning call from the thermostat. It was part of the original HVAC install during the home construction. The home is so air-tight that it needs to independently draw in fresh air to maintain indoor air quality. And when no heating/cooling is taking place, that damper closes off. So when the air handler runs to simply circulate air in the home, it doesn't draw in unconditioned air and distribute it throughout the house. It only is 5.6% of the total air movement though the air handler, but if unconditioned, it will throw off humidity and temperature control.

The damper is jammed in the open position, AND the board is set up incorrectly so that any time the air handler fan runs, including during circulation cycles, the fresh air damper will open. That is, if it weren't already jammed in the open position.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 04, 2025 06:21 AM (a1415)

73 55 Mr. Blue Sky

https://youtu.be/74t0MkMOe58
Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at May 04, 2025 05:53 AM (eQQhT)

Man, is that an earworm or what.

Posted by: m at May 04, 2025 06:22 AM (CQE5S)

74 Well, enough of bending y'all's ear about HVAC tech talk.

Plus, time to start getting ready for church.


BBIAB

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 04, 2025 06:25 AM (a1415)

75 "And nothing of value was lost. Mozilla killed itself off as a realistic option years ago."

The company may have repeatedly done stupid things and injured itself in the perception of its users, but the products are still viable.

Firefox with the right add-ons* is still quite usable and functional. Over the years I've made a ton of tweaks to turn crap off in the underlying configuration (about:config) as well, but I've always kept that profile going. Starting afresh with a new profile, I'd probably have to locate and change a ton of settings and that wouldn't be fun at all.

I also use Thunderbird as my e-mail program. It works just fine.


{*} No-Script, uBlock Origin, CanvasBlocker, Privacy Badger, SponsorBlock for YouTube, Port Authority, Nuke Anything, and Theme Font & Size Changer.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at May 04, 2025 06:32 AM (O7YUW)

76 From the Verge article:

Mozilla has also previously tried to switch all users’ default search engines, and it didn’t go well. Between 2014 and 2017, the company made Yahoo the default on its browser, and found that people disliked the experience so much that they switched to another browser altogether.

I don’t remember this, probably because I immediately changed the default search engine in settings. Mine is set to Brave Search currently.

And even if I hadn’t done that, Firefox (Waterfox in my case) allows you to change which search engine you use each time by hitting a button next to the search box and picking out of a list which engine you want to use.

And even if you didn’t know that, all you have to do is, ya know, type in google.com and then do your search there.

Is web browsing really so unintuitive these days that most people don’t realize these things?

I never in a million years would have thought “Uh oh, they changed my search to Bing, I’m going to have to download Google Chrome now to search in Google!”.

But apparently a lot of people thought that.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at May 04, 2025 06:36 AM (6ydKt)

77 As long as we're posting Mr. Blue Sky covers:

https://youtu.be/PyUNDr0EcAk

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 04, 2025 06:38 AM (PiwSw)

78 Man, I'd forgotten how great Firefox used to be when the users could install extensions to make it usable.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Nose rings and tattoos show you her trauma is her personality at May 04, 2025 06:38 AM (Ji8U7)

79 66 Tea. Earl Grey. Hot.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at May 04, 2025 06:08 AM (6YdsJ)

Currently doing this post-coffees.

Posted by: m at May 04, 2025 06:40 AM (CQE5S)

80 Where are the indictments?

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 04, 2025 06:44 AM (dg+HA)

81 Evening and morning, Sunday people,

I overslept! Usually I wake if left to my own devices around 4:45 am. Last night I forgot to set the alarm, and wow, here I am closing in on 6:00 as I drink my second cup of coffee. Feels odd. But I guess I had to catch up after waking at 3 am on Sat. morning.

On the good side, 66 F. and 70% humidity; on the bad for working out, 11 mph winds.

Whassup?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 04, 2025 06:44 AM (omVj0)

82 Is Brave considered a "major browser," and if so, will it have problems?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 04, 2025 06:45 AM (omVj0)

83 @78/Boron Cobbie: "Man, I'd forgotten how great Firefox used to be when the users could install extensions to make it usable."

I should add that my version of firefox is 136.0.2 (mint-001), running on Linux Mint. There's a 138.0 I can upgrade to, and probably will soon. (This is something else I love about running Firefox on Mint, I get to choose when it updates, not Mozilla.)

Anyway, in reply to your comment: You still can install extensions to make it usable.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at May 04, 2025 06:47 AM (O7YUW)

84 Yeah, I just skip all that and use Waterfox.
Plus, uBlock origin, Ghostery, and a few other extensions and I’m set.

I haven’t used Firefox, apart from iOS in almost a decade.

It’s not even installed on my current Windows PC.

Once Mozilla decided to add Pocket and a bunch of other things I didn’t want which bloated up the browser so much it took forever to load and kept crashing, I found the magic of software forking and never looked back.

Never did like Chrome after I installed it one time back in 2010 or so.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at May 04, 2025 06:49 AM (6ydKt)

85 I've got Firefox on my two Macs and my Win laptops, but for years I've only used it to access my work platforms and and work email. Now the only use I have for FF is dropping in on my former work (now alumnus) email account to see if any messages important *to me* have come up.

Otherwise I use Brave everywhere. Miss Linda still uses Safari on this MacBook Air; I haven't even looked at that browser on the iMac.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 04, 2025 06:50 AM (omVj0)

86 Good morning morons

Au revoir Australia!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2025 06:51 AM (RIvkX)

87 Chrome I used *only* at work to access the timekeeping platform I had to visit once a month to "approve" timesheets for our people, and to enter my own requests for time off. As soon as I was done with that, I closed the thing. Now I never look at it and I'm not sure I even have it on the iMac.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 04, 2025 06:52 AM (omVj0)

88 84
Practically my experience too. I moved to Waterfox when it was the only one offering a 64-bit version and I've stuck wit it.

Posted by: Ciampino - bloat is in everything at May 04, 2025 06:53 AM (sPQoU)

89 Anyway, in reply to your comment: You still can install extensions to make it usable.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant

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Unless something has changed it's not like pre version 52.

You can still install extensions and pretend that you're changing the browser in some meaningful way that is helpful to you, but it's like telling Apple that you want a new keyboard on your ipad. You get what looks like a new keyboard, but it's still the Apple keyboard underneat. Because "security"

Pre version 52 Firefox was incredible.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Nose rings and tattoos show you her trauma is her personality at May 04, 2025 06:54 AM (Ji8U7)

90 https://tinyurl.com/34f9sn4r
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 04, 2025 04:57 AM (2hHY4)
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That's what happens. Who goes to eat in Oakland!

You know who? CBD does, that's who.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2025 06:55 AM (RIvkX)

91 Addendum:

And I have no doubt that post-52 Firefox was to help data collection and selling telemetry.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Nose rings and tattoos show you her trauma is her personality at May 04, 2025 06:55 AM (Ji8U7)

92 Is Brave considered a "major browser," and if so, will it have problems?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 04, 2025 06:45 AM (omVj0)

It is t considered a major browser but it’s quite good for people who don’t want to use Add-Ons or Extensions to be able to block Ads, etc.

It automatically blocks Ads for you.
Other than that it’s pretty much like every other browser.

It may have problems on a few sites, like a lot of “off brand” browsers have but for 95% of typical web surfing it’s fine.

It also has its own search engine with a handy-dandy AI, which I use often.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at May 04, 2025 06:56 AM (6ydKt)

93 Had a pretty bad storm last night around 9:30, heard hail hitting window screens. Bit no trees down so survived well.

Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2025 06:57 AM (ypFCm)

94 91 Addendum:

And I have no doubt that post-52 Firefox was to help data collection and selling telemetry.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Nose rings and tattoos show you her trauma is her personality at May 04, 2025 06:55 AM (Ji8U7)

telemetry
noun
the process of recording and transmitting the readings of an instrument: measurements will be transferred by radio telemetry to the shore station | [as modifier] : special tracking and telemetry systems to collect data.

Posted by: m at May 04, 2025 07:01 AM (CQE5S)

95 mornin yall. Some lefty from Cato says about deportations:

"Wealthy, skilled people with other options will not settle in a country where their lives can be ruined for a speeding ticket or operating an illegal lemonade stand,"

Why would a wealthy skilled illegal immigrant be running a lemonade stand? Are they doing jobs American kids won't do?

Posted by: fd at May 04, 2025 07:01 AM (vFG9F)

96 AoS a smart HVAC blog

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2025 07:02 AM (RIvkX)

97 Otherwise I use Brave everywhere. Miss Linda still uses Safari on this MacBook Air; I haven't even looked at that browser on the iMac.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 04, 2025 06:50 AM (omVj0)

Safari has never appealed to me.
But I started using the web in the late 90s, so I was always used to Netscape.

When Netscape bit the dust I had to use Internet Explorer like everybody else.

Until Firefox came out, and I used it for years and years until Mozilla started adding things.

It comes down to what people are accustomed to using. Everybody likes what they like in certain browsers but when you get right down to it, the websites all look about the same on them so it’s really down to personal preference over the creature comforts each browser offers.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at May 04, 2025 07:02 AM (6ydKt)

98 Woman who held Elizabeth Smart captive arrested again in Utah

https://mol.im/a/14676187

Wait, shouldn't she have gotten a federal no-parole life sentence?

Posted by: Ciampino - we don't have same laws everywhere at May 04, 2025 07:02 AM (sPQoU)

99 I don't think a horse has previously won from post position 18, as Sovereignty did yesterday. Pretty remarkable race. And the bourbon was good.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 04, 2025 07:03 AM (VVpKI)

100 100

Posted by: m at May 04, 2025 07:03 AM (CQE5S)

101 The Brazilian sub- contractor I write about often has to be doing very well running his small company

Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2025 07:03 AM (ypFCm)

102 @89/Boron Cobbie: You are correct, a major shift happened in the API for extensions/add-ons around version 52. It caused a lot of pain and rewrites were needed. I stayed with the old version of Firefox for a time until they started having serious compatibility problems with web-sites, then I examined newer add-ons.

I switched from Ad-block Plus to uBlock Origin because Ad-block plus started playing around with "acceptable ads". Hard "No!" from me on that. I will determine what acceptable is, and it's "none of them."

And I don't care how the add-ons accomplish what they accomplish so long as the UI acts, looks, and feels like I'm comfortable with. I'm happy with what I have right now, so I'm sticking with it.

As soon as that changes significantly, I'll explore other options. I'll probably end up starting with a serious look at "Brave".

The funding changes for existing browsers will likely cause this to be the inflection point for a major shakeup. Yay, more change. *sighs*

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at May 04, 2025 07:06 AM (O7YUW)

103 A U.S. Army soldier is facing drug-related charges in connection with a recent raid by the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) on a Colorado Springs, Colorado, raid. The raid led to the arrest of 114 illegal aliens and the seizure of handguns, drug paraphernalia, and penguins.

Posted by: fd at May 04, 2025 07:06 AM (vFG9F)

104 98 Posted by: Ciampino - we don't have same laws everywhere at May 04, 2025 07:02 AM (sPQoU)
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Hopefully, she goes back to prison now.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 04, 2025 07:07 AM (vR0zm)

105 98 Woman who held Elizabeth Smart captive arrested again in Utah
https://mol.im/a/14676187
Posted by: Ciampino - we don't have same laws everywhere at May 04, 2025 07:02 AM (sPQoU)

Blessings on Elizabeth Smart.

Posted by: m at May 04, 2025 07:13 AM (CQE5S)

106 I stayed with the old version of Firefox for a time until they started having serious compatibility problems with web-sites, then I examined newer add-ons.

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That's what makes me think the entire shift was for the corporations (including Mozilla) and not the users. The modern post-2005 internet in a nutshell.

With the old modifiable Firefox it was probably possible for users to prevent data from being easily collected and sold.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Nose rings and tattoos show you her trauma is her personality at May 04, 2025 07:14 AM (Ji8U7)

107 Wanda Barzee. What a piece of work. She's 79 now. Was released from jail in '18 since she agreed to spend the rest of her life on the sex offender registry. Looks like she violated the rules by going to some public parks.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 04, 2025 07:16 AM (dg+HA)

108 Morning peeps.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 04, 2025 07:16 AM (Q4IgG)

109 Large weather we're having.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at May 04, 2025 07:21 AM (UBKzV)

110 I wonder if Pixy was able to get Miklos back on line here again.

Posted by: Tuna at May 04, 2025 07:22 AM (lJ0H4)

111 Large weather we're having.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at May 04, 2025 07:21 AM (UBKzV)
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The sky's the limit!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 04, 2025 07:23 AM (2hHY4)

112 Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 04, 2025 07:25 AM (u82oZ)

113 I didn't follow the Smart kidnapping other than superficially so I don't understand why this woman didn't get life in prison.

Posted by: Ciampino - we don't have same laws everywhere ... at May 04, 2025 07:25 AM (sPQoU)

114 Since this is the Tech Thread I'll bitch and moan about a blog feature. It's the malfunctioning "Jump to the bottom of comments" link.
On my Android phone it's been rendered pretty much unusable.
Sometimes it will work ok, but often it sends me a a page of nothing but ads and almost always lands on an unpleasant image of someone squeezing their obese belly fat.

I've learned to hit the back button twice (why not just once?) and then hit refresh.
Yeah, it's just four taps of the index finger, but still.

I miss the old "Jump to the bottom of the comments" link. Used it all the time.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 04, 2025 07:25 AM (dg+HA)

115 One lie after another.

This is what they do:

https://tinyurl.com/696anzcn

This is who they are.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 04, 2025 07:26 AM (2hHY4)

116 Tuna

Pixy has the power. So does CBD. But he needed to hear from Miklos. From what I hear, Miklos socked a known troll that is banned on site. That is a tad dangerous.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 04, 2025 07:28 AM (u82oZ)

117 Al Jazeera's spokeswoman declares....

Oh.

Wait!

https://tinyurl.com/2yvum6sh

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 04, 2025 07:28 AM (2hHY4)

118 Firefox with vim extension and react development toolkit works fine, I really don’t search anymore, so search engines are pretty low on my priority.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 04, 2025 07:30 AM (XV/Pl)

119 Salty,

Understood. Thanks for the info.

Posted by: Tuna at May 04, 2025 07:32 AM (lJ0H4)

120 I really don’t search anymore, so search engines are pretty low on my priority.
Posted by: Thomas Bender
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Why no searches? Seems like that's one of the main benefits of the interwebs.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at May 04, 2025 07:34 AM (UBKzV)

121 All the money Google doesn't have to pay anymore ought to be enough for anybody!
(Looks at his bag for a belly and flabby man boobs and sighs)

Yeah! Oh Yeah!

Posted by: Bill Gates, Tech Weirdo With Man Boobs at May 04, 2025 07:36 AM (R/m4+)

122 @120

>>Why no searches? Seems like that's one of the main benefits of the interwebs.

There are only of handful of places I go on the internet, I have those on quick links, and any research I do now is through ChatGPT and it gives me tailored results, it’s like using the original internet.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 04, 2025 07:36 AM (XV/Pl)

123 The only thermostat I ever wanted was the round one with a mercury switch inside and you just twist it til the air feels good. It’s cheap, you stick it on the wall and it works for 50 years.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 04, 2025 07:37 AM (3xZyM)

124 FenelonSpoke

Glad to hear FenelonSpouse is better and you got to dance.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 04, 2025 07:39 AM (u82oZ)

125 This is hilarious: A fan of Shedur Sanders ( whom I call "Baby Prime" ) are suing the NFL for "emotional distress" because he didn't get picked in the first round draft.

The Plaintiff is asking for $100 million in punitive damages, but he can't pay the filing fee...

https://is.gd/7pPBS0

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 04, 2025 07:39 AM (PiwSw)

126 Google reducing 80% of web browser funding might not be all that bad. Developers wouldn't be beholden to Google anymore. Like browsers that have been developed "in the wild."

Sure... some of those are useless, but I think, given time the situation will more or less self correct and nobody will miss Google's funding with the strings attached.

Or... it all goes to shit and people involuntarily give up their web addictions because it's unusable.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 04, 2025 07:42 AM (Q4IgG)

127 Biff Pocoroba

Search engines are broken, deliberately, for crass commercial purposes.

On of many possible examples is this. I went to look for an article I wrote for Deckplate magazine on EMP. No can find. Lots of stuff I had no interest in was shown. I used to have GoogleFu. No more.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 04, 2025 07:42 AM (u82oZ)

128 Decades ago, a heating system contractor we used often told me they had a gallon glass jug they dumped all their mercury in. Said if almost filled was worth $1G

Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2025 07:42 AM (ypFCm)

129 Also, try searching for a specific title on Amazon -- you may not get a hit, but you'll get pages of results...

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 04, 2025 07:44 AM (PiwSw)

130 This is hilarious: A fan of Shedur Sanders ( whom I call "Baby Prime" ) are suing the NFL for "emotional distress" because he didn't get picked in the first round draft.

The Plaintiff is asking for $100 million in punitive damages, but he can't pay the filing fee...

https://is.gd/7pPBS0
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes
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Any asshole can sue for anything. I bet each federal judge has a clerk spending half their time on pro se prisoner filings.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at May 04, 2025 07:44 AM (UBKzV)

131 Martini Farmer

I am OK with this. We have had a decade of "improvements" that were not helpful.

Slowing the pace of technical advances could lead to better, more focused browsers, rather that spy devices. Well, if browser companies were not evil.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 04, 2025 07:45 AM (u82oZ)

132 If you've got the time and energy to pursue a lawsuit against the NFL for "emotional distress" over the outcome of the player draft, perhaps you should spend some time contemplating your life choices that got you to this point.

Although every sports talk radio host in the country would like to thank you for creating at least a week's worth of feature material for discussion.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 04, 2025 07:46 AM (dg+HA)

133 ...on properly setting up the parameters on a full communicating, full variable heat pump and air handler.


Congratulations, you are making a fine investment in your home health and comfort. Make sure that you have a high quality whole house surge protector or go big bucks and get a power conditioner so that $1k thermostat doesn't die on you.

Fun Fact: If you have sized the HVAC properly (that is oversized since its a variable speed and cycle times no longer matter) and if the house is well insulated, you should be able to easily run a five ton with an invertor generator from Harbor Freight (that and pretty much everything else except an electric dryer, water heater or oven) in maintain household temperature mode.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at May 04, 2025 07:46 AM (a4flb)

134 On of many possible examples is this. I went to look for an article I wrote for Deckplate magazine on EMP. No can find. Lots of stuff I had no interest in was shown. I used to have GoogleFu. No more.
Posted by: NaCly
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Yes, but what are your options? Britannica's not going to be of much help.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at May 04, 2025 07:46 AM (UBKzV)

135 127 On of many possible examples is this. I went to look for an article I wrote for Deckplate magazine on EMP.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 04, 2025 07:42 AM (u82oZ)

Can you give me the year it was published?

Posted by: m at May 04, 2025 07:48 AM (CQE5S)

136 My iPad has "jump to bottom".
Lots of those crazy JD crop sprayers on the roads lately. I suppose now that it's warmed up, corn will be going in soon.
I love living in farm country.

Posted by: Accomack at May 04, 2025 07:48 AM (cUkpv)

137 Miklos was on the Club ONT - several 'Bishop Ralph of Shrewsbury' comments. He's back.

Posted by: Nazdar at May 04, 2025 07:48 AM (NcvvS)

138 Nazdar

Miklos is the sockmaster.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 04, 2025 07:49 AM (u82oZ)

139 m

Mmmm 1992? Plus or minus a year.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 04, 2025 07:50 AM (u82oZ)

140 Still some residential rain falling

Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2025 07:50 AM (ypFCm)

141 This is hilarious: A fan of Shedur Sanders ( whom I call "Baby Prime" ) are suing the NFL for "emotional distress" because he didn't get picked in the first round draft.

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He allegedly actively told teams he didn't want to play for them in the interviews, approaching them like he was the prize instead of him attending a job interview, and his showboating dad was hinting that he'd refuse to play if the "right" team didn't pick him.

I don't blame anyone for not wasting a good pick on an average to marginally good QB drama queen who is a time bomb waiting to go off. He should go to the UFL and see if he's good enough for anything better. I doubt he is.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Nose rings and tattoos mean she made the traumas her personality at May 04, 2025 07:51 AM (oFxbF)

142 Yep. Some weeks he appears twice on the top-ten sock list because his hash changes so often.

Posted by: Nazdar at May 04, 2025 07:51 AM (NcvvS)

143 Tim’s Hardware had a really good recommended article below Pixy’s link on the regedit to get Windows to restart:

https://tinyurl.com/mrxkkx9m

How to restart Windows Explorer when it crashes out, taking the Start menu and taskbar with it.

Been using Windows for 30 years and always had to restart the PC. Now I know how to avoid that.

If I can remember everything in that article when it happens… which I doubt.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at May 04, 2025 07:51 AM (6ydKt)

144 Slowing the pace of technical advances could lead to better, more focused browsers, rather that spy devices. Well, if browser companies were not evil.


I just picked up a new Genesis GV80. My trade-in was a '96 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited.

Oh My. Biometrics to start the car. A damned camera that is sitting on the steering wheel stem that is aimed at the driver to determine if the driver is alive, awake and occasionally looking at the road. They say that you have to put the car on a trickle charger if you leave it alone for a couple weeks - apparently the full time sensors and connection to Skynet is part of the deal.

The offer to give very specific and detailed assessments to insurance companies on driver habits, and I have heard that one rowdy driver was threatened by the manufacturer to void the warranty for driving with too much spirit.

I may go get my old car back, that is if they haven't crushed it.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at May 04, 2025 07:52 AM (a4flb)

145 Good morning good people.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 04, 2025 07:52 AM (vKNmo)

146
136 My iPad has "jump to bottom".
Posted by: Accomack at May 04, 2025 07:48 AM

Oh, yes, I have it on my Android.
It's just been rendered unusable.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 04, 2025 07:52 AM (dg+HA)

147 139 m

Mmmm 1992? Plus or minus a year.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 04, 2025 07:50 AM (u82oZ)

O.k.! Not my field, but I'll look around.

Posted by: m at May 04, 2025 07:52 AM (CQE5S)

148 It’s “Tom” autocucumber, not “Tim” but since I is next to the O on the keyboard I guess you took a 50/50 shot, and I lost, as usual.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at May 04, 2025 07:53 AM (6ydKt)

149 One lie after another.

This is what they do:

https://tinyurl.com/696anzcn

This is who they are.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 04, 2025 07:26 AM (2hHY4)
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And of course, there's Senator Liealotta:

https://tinyurl.com/c3tnm9m7

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 04, 2025 07:54 AM (2hHY4)

150 Boron Cobbie

People like Shedur Sanders, sportscasters, and NIL have markedly decreased my interest in all sports, Even KSU football.

I cut the cord last week and have no TV inputs at all. Feels like Victory.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 04, 2025 07:54 AM (u82oZ)

151 Not surprised. The site is unloadable on my iPhone now, constant "repeated errors" screens. I used to be able to tap "comments" and be good to go, not anymore.

Posted by: Accomack at May 04, 2025 07:54 AM (ldLe1)

152 Biff Pocoroba

Search engines are broken, deliberately, for crass commercial purposes.

On of many possible examples is this. I went to look for an article I wrote for Deckplate magazine on EMP. No can find. Lots of stuff I had no interest in was shown. I used to have GoogleFu. No more.
Posted by: NaCly Dog

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My favorite personal example is a letter written IIRC from Jefferson to Adams. He writes about how if the Indians refuse to climb the ladder of civilization then they'll be driven west with the other beasts.

Nowhere to be found. All of the documents, all of the text conversions, all of the historic records... Nothing.

Because what would people think if they knew what people thought?

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Nose rings and tattoos mean she made the traumas her personality at May 04, 2025 07:56 AM (oFxbF)

153 What's new is when I hit "comments"n the iPad, I go to click bait ads and there are no comments. If I back click, I still get ads. I have to double click to get to top of the comments.
We will own nothing and be happy because They have turned everything to shit.

Posted by: Accomack at May 04, 2025 07:58 AM (ldLe1)

154 People like Shedur Sanders, sportscasters, and NIL have markedly decreased my interest in all sports, Even KSU football.

I cut the cord last week and have no TV inputs at all. Feels like Victory.
Posted by: NaCly Dog

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I saw that Trump apparently spoke to Nick Saban about the NIL and might be using an EO to attempt to address the chaos it's caused. That will be interesting if he ties federal funding to trying to reign it in.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Nose rings and tattoos mean she made the traumas her personality at May 04, 2025 07:59 AM (oFxbF)

155 Boron Cobbie

Interesting. Building an entire civilization on sand, with a tsunami possible. The corridors of power have committed a lot of evil.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 04, 2025 07:59 AM (u82oZ)

156 Headline: Oakland Head Start program facing uncertainty...

*shocked face*

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2025 08:00 AM (RIvkX)

157 Toy boat.

What could possibly go wrong?!

https://tinyurl.com/yty7b7tp

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 04, 2025 08:00 AM (2hHY4)

158 Search engines are broken, deliberately, for crass commercial purposes.

That has been true for well over a decade. I no longer use any of the popular search engines because of this problem.

The cool kids have moved on to AI queries. DDG was playing around with it for a while and it has gradually increased sucking - just like AI for coding is getting worse and worse with each update and lousy third worlder who is pushing crappy code on to public GitHub repositories.

Also, as more and more of the once open-source goes subscription or corporate, there are more forks of the last known GPL code and now the training algs are picking up on the vast bespoke implementations which is driving up hallucinations and bogus APIs.

So search engines are dead, and AI is collapsing. We might have to learn how to use dead trees and talk to each other again.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at May 04, 2025 08:01 AM (a4flb)

159 https://tinyurl.com/2yvum6sh
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 04, 2025 07:28 AM (2hHY4)
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Tom Homan to the nearest courtesy phone, please.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 04, 2025 08:01 AM (VVpKI)

160 Boron Cobbie

We need to lock in EO wins with budgets and legislation. The GOPe is an enemy of rationality here.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 04, 2025 08:01 AM (u82oZ)

161 I cut the cord last week and have no TV inputs at all. Feels like Victory.
Posted by: NaCly Dog


Congratulations to you, sir.

There is a world of long format information out there (we should be discussing them here in less than an hour)

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at May 04, 2025 08:03 AM (a4flb)

162 Unknown Drip Under Pressure

This 1/x decay pattern is of concern.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 04, 2025 08:04 AM (u82oZ)

163 Unknown Drip Under Pressure

I do have a curated library of great books. And been reading new to me authors like John Van Stry.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 04, 2025 08:06 AM (u82oZ)

164 I wonder if Pixy was able to get Miklos back on line here again.

Miklos needs to get a VPN

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at May 04, 2025 08:06 AM (a4flb)

165 Windows registry hacks can be pretty useful. I've been around Windows long enough to be comfortable tweaking some of it. The Group Policy Editor in the Pro version is useful too. Certainly not for the faint of heart.

There's an online utility for Windows users called "WinUtil" that can automatically tweak various settings. It's apparently safe as I have not seen not experienced any issues since toying around with it some time ago.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 04, 2025 08:06 AM (Q4IgG)

166 We might have to learn. . . . and talk to each other again.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure

Okay, but I'm still going to look at my shoes while I do it.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 04, 2025 08:06 AM (vKNmo)

167 I may go get my old car back, that is if they haven't crushed it.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at May 04, 2025 07:52 AM (a4flb)
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You've described exactly why I won't buy a new car.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 04, 2025 08:07 AM (vR0zm)

168 Have a great day, everyone.

May you enjoy Spring and the renewal that comes with it.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 04, 2025 08:08 AM (u82oZ)

169 From now on, I will be addressing Miklos as "Sockmaster Miklos"...

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 04, 2025 08:11 AM (PiwSw)

170 Sockmaster Miklos > Grandmaster Flash

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2025 08:13 AM (RIvkX)

171 My favorite personal example is a letter written IIRC from Jefferson to Adams. He writes about how if the Indians refuse to climb the ladder of civilization then they'll be driven west with the other beasts.

Nowhere to be found. All of the documents, all of the text conversions, all of the historic records... Nothing.

Because what would people think if they knew what people thought?
Posted by: Boron Cobbie
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Again, I get it. But unless you've got access to the primary source, you're going to have to learn of it from some secondary source. Which before the internet and search engines was limited to books. Which in turn required finding the right book. Which still might leave you with questions about whether the primary source is being accurately reflected.

I just don't see how search engines are anything but an advance in terms of options for getting you to a secondary source, the quality of which you can judge for yourself. Or in many instances to a primary source.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at May 04, 2025 08:13 AM (UBKzV)

172 The USDA had more than 100,000 employees? Who knew. Apparently 15,000 of them are taking the Trump buyout offer and retiring, and WaPo is very upset about that.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 04, 2025 08:15 AM (sDYtF)

173 Ah, VIA...

You are going down a serious rabbit hole.

Posted by: pawn at May 04, 2025 08:16 AM (QB+5g)

174 A search engine is nothing but a Library card catalogue
with a bunch of cards either rearranged or missing.

Posted by: Kwak! at May 04, 2025 08:18 AM (89Sog)

175 Mayor Pete is tweeting hard about tariffs, as is Markos st DailyKos. The left seems to think tariffs will really hurt Trump "once people realize" how terrible they are. Just one more fear-mongering criticism about mythical future damage to come at some future undefined point.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 04, 2025 08:23 AM (jLZ2e)

176 You've described exactly why I won't buy a new car.

I have been agonizing of the lease return vs new for a while... mostly because a lease return has cared for - to a degree and the savings from the immediate depreciation is smaller.

The Powers That Be have demanded more and more crap on cars: back-up cameras, OTA firmware/software updates, tire pressure sensors, blind spot monitors. Heck even the rear gate and seats are on motors.

I'm not such a troglodyte that I demand Armstrong windows, but it has never been a burden to walk the car, note tire pressure, and lift and lower the gate manually. My neck works and I can turn it to see behind me when backing and the bare minimums of situational awareness should overcome the dreaded "blind spot"s.

But I have to burn extra fuel to haul a crate of motors and sensors on things that never needed motors and sensors. Really, does tilt steering need a motor? The dome light still on? Check the doors I don't need a full lighted graphical display and chimes. I don't need a warning when I turn off the car to check the backseat for forgotten passengers.

The inventor of Idle-Stop must die.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at May 04, 2025 08:25 AM (a4flb)

177 174 A search engine is nothing but a Library card catalogue
with a bunch of cards either rearranged or missing.
Posted by: Kwak! at May 04, 2025 08:18 AM (89Sog)

I like the analogy.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2025 08:27 AM (bss/y)

178 Mayor Pete is tweeting hard about tariffs, as is Markos st DailyKos.

I thought the Left loved taxes.

Has Mayor Pete done anything right in his entire political career? What recommends him to be trusted to assess anything of importance. Heck he can't even figure out how to marry without screwing that up.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at May 04, 2025 08:28 AM (a4flb)

179 First night with baby at home completed. Momma is exhausted but, other than that, all is well. At least I got to sleep through the night for the first time in three weeks.

That's the important thing. Leaving today for home. I'm gonna miss this peanut. I'll come back though to teach him sarcasm, swear words, and insults.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 04, 2025 08:30 AM (vKNmo)

180 A search engine is nothing but a Library card catalogue
with a bunch of cards either rearranged or missing.
Posted by: Kwak!
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Good illustration of why I disagree. A search engine will actually get you to same library card catalogue as the one at the computer terminal in the library. Most of physical catalogues are long gone.

And the search engine will produce a ton of other, irrelevant and biased results. Even so, I see this as an improvement over having no option but going to the library, because even with all that irrelevant and biased shit, I still think I'll find that online link to the library catalogue quicker than if I had to drive there.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at May 04, 2025 08:31 AM (UBKzV)

181 DataRepublican is digging deep into Soros' control within the deep state. You all need to be paying attention to this.

And like last week, I say note the red dots, not just the blue dots:

https://tinyurl.com/59mvjk54

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 04, 2025 08:32 AM (2hHY4)

182 "The inventor of Idle-Stop must die."

Whoever it was, they were just trying to comply with onerous CAFE standards.
Direct your ire at the EPA. They are the root of all this evil.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 04, 2025 08:32 AM (dg+HA)

183 179 First night with baby at home completed. Momma is exhausted but, other than that, all is well. At least I got to sleep through the night for the first time in three weeks.

That's the important thing. Leaving today for home. I'm gonna miss this peanut. I'll come back though to teach him sarcasm, swear words, and insults.
Posted by: Tonypete at May 04, 2025 08:30 AM (vKNmo)

; )

Posted by: m at May 04, 2025 08:34 AM (CQE5S)

184 The research side of the IU library had 14 floors. Even when I was there ('93) the card catalog was digitized on a terminal. You still had to know what you were looking for. A buddy and I would explore the floors. One of the top floors (maybe 13?), we discovered the map section. They had these Gigantic map plates (which you could stick together and make the whole map. There was not enough space to put the whole map together on the floor they were in. The maps could not be checked out. This led to discussions about larceny and Ocean's 11 style plans to get them out of the library and get them to Kinko's. We never did it because I did not want to take a chance on damaging the plates. Probably should have gotten those architect cardboard tubes...

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2025 08:34 AM (bss/y)

185 I'll come back though to teach him sarcasm, swear words, and insults.
Posted by: Tonypete at May 04, 2025 08:30 AM (vKNmo)
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לדור ודור

From generation to generation

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2025 08:36 AM (RIvkX)

186 That's the important thing. Leaving today for home. I'm gonna miss this peanut. I'll come back though to teach him sarcasm, swear words, and insults.
Posted by: Tonypete at May 04, 2025 08:30 AM (vKNmo)

Rule #1 (which he will break.) That if he lives to be 100, he will never have any hope of understanding them, but still love them.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2025 08:36 AM (bss/y)

187 My wife bought a 2024 Subaru Forester and I swear it hates me. It's sentient and loves my wife but not me. I can feel it looking at me with hatred through those "lane departure" cameras.
My daily driver is a 2004 Toyota Tacoma 2wd with 340,000 miles on it. For what the wife's car cost each month I could replace any major component on it and sort of have been. Short of engine and transmission I will have a new truck one part at a time eventually.
I'm thinking next it new carpet and having the seat redone. I have stayed away from comfort things as I wanted to be confident the important stuff was good to go first. Now I might even paint it.

Posted by: Reforger at May 04, 2025 08:37 AM (xcIvR)

188 The internet is a wretched hive of scum and villiiany?

Posted by: Eromero at May 04, 2025 08:38 AM (LHPAg)

189 DataRepublican is digging deep into Soros' control within the deep state. You all need to be paying attention to this.

And like last week, I say note the red dots, not just the blue dots:

https://tinyurl.com/59mvjk54

--

This is why only his death will rid us of him. And then, his geeky dork of a son will slide right into his place.

Posted by: Lady in Black at May 04, 2025 08:38 AM (qBdHI)

190 188 The internet is a wretched hive of scum and villiiany?
Posted by: Eromero at May 04, 2025 08:38 AM (LHPAg)

The internet is like Rome. Everything is there, but finding it is hard. The streets make no sense. Fewer churches though.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2025 08:39 AM (bss/y)

191 This is why only his death will rid us of him. And then, his geeky dork of a son will slide right into his place.

Posted by: Lady in Black at May 04, 2025 08:38 AM (qBdHI)
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I think he has a daughter, too.

And his institutions will not evaporate upon their never-too-soon demise.

In other news, getting word that something blew up in Iran - and I'm not referring to the power station fire from the other day.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 04, 2025 08:41 AM (2hHY4)

192 In other news, getting word that something blew up in Iran - and I'm not referring to the power station fire from the other day.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 04, 2025 08:41 AM (2hHY4)
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First claims are it's a motorcycle factory. Feasible, if they are e-bikes:

https://tinyurl.com/mvd66777

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 04, 2025 08:43 AM (2hHY4)

193 https://tinyurl.com/59mvjk54

--

This is why only his death will rid us of him. And then, his geeky dork of a son will slide right into his place.
Posted by: Lady in Black at May 04, 2025 08:38 AM (qBdHI)
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Very sad to see Elise Stefanik there. I had high hopes for her.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 04, 2025 08:44 AM (mAcx5)

194 @47/FenelonSpoke: Glad to hear that FenSpouse's pain issues cleared up for both of you to have a good time at that wedding.

Prayer for healing answered and another prayer of thanks offered up.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at May 04, 2025 08:45 AM (O7YUW)

195 I would say that the mossads sabotage teams are now collecting overtime pay.

Posted by: Kwak! at May 04, 2025 08:46 AM (89Sog)

196 Mike
@Doranimated
Asking the Israeli government to call off the Americans who label him an antisemite is proof that he’s an antisemite — but he doesn’t begin to realize it. His laugh is creepy.
4:14 PM · May 1, 2025
====
I wonder whom Tucker called?

Because I haven't received any new orders.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2025 08:48 AM (RIvkX)

197 Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 04, 2025 08:43 AM (2hHY4)

Opensource intel has a new tweet on top. Another big fire in Tehran.

Posted by: Kwak! at May 04, 2025 08:48 AM (89Sog)

198 Shiloh Hendrix story is an interesting one.

Surprised I haven't seen it covered here.

Posted by: For What It's Worth at May 04, 2025 08:49 AM (cTeqE)

199 Texas Roadhouse employees go above and beyond for beloved dog’s last meal:

https://tinyurl.com/38zwft4s
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 04, 2025 05:31 AM (dKL5S)

I'm blubbering like a little kid. What a sweet story.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at May 04, 2025 08:49 AM (5xuJ/)

200 @189/Lady in Black: "This is why only his death will rid us of him. And then, his geeky dork of a son will slide right into his place."

He already has. Alex has taken over with George's blessing and George has (officially) stepped back, though you're right, only his death will completely remove him.

Alex is (apparently) even more committed to the globalist/socialist goals than George.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at May 04, 2025 08:50 AM (O7YUW)

201 > This is why only his death will rid us of him. And then, his geeky dork of a son will slide right into his place.
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I think the entire Soros "empire" of NGO's and shady political think tanks needs to be disassembled. Ridding the planet of his ilk is one thing, but those entities will continue on "auto pilot" unless destroyed.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 04, 2025 08:50 AM (Q4IgG)

202 Just now my granddaughter asked if she could go to school today. I explained that there is no school on Sunday. She then asked if today was a "church day." I said yes, Sunday is when people go to church.

Now she and her brother are putting on nice clothes in anticipation of the 11 a.m. Mass. She is 4 and he is 3. I've never seen anything like this.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2025 08:50 AM (ZOv7s)

203 I wonder whom Tucker called?

Because I haven't received any new orders.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2025 08:48 AM (RIvkX)

Is it like an old teletype? Pager (lol?) Dot matrix printer (that way you know the orders are coming in?)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2025 08:50 AM (bss/y)

204 Alex is (apparently) even more committed to the globalist/socialist goals than George.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at May 04, 2025 08:50 AM (O7YUW)
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He's another idiot child of an evil genius. His empire will crumble of its own weight as the money spigot gets shut off and people fight over the crumbs.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2025 08:52 AM (ZOv7s)

205 Is it like an old teletype? Pager (lol?) Dot matrix printer (that way you know the orders are coming in?)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2025 08:50 AM (bss/y)
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A cassette tape. And 5 seconds after, it self-destructs.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2025 08:53 AM (RIvkX)

206 Whoever it was, they were just trying to comply with onerous CAFE standards.

Next they will force people to drop 10 pounds so that it takes less fuel, leaves a smaller Carbon Footprint™

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at May 04, 2025 08:54 AM (a4flb)

207 I usually just go to sidebar link for CJN Speaks, it sent me straight to Spotify. Now I listen to Spotify a lot but so far up until yesterday the CJN Speaks were older episodes. Yesterday it was the new one

Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2025 08:54 AM (ypFCm)

208 I'm thinking next it new carpet and having the seat redone. I have stayed away from comfort things as I wanted to be confident the important stuff was good to go first. Now I might even paint it.
Posted by: Reforger at May 04, 2025


***
Same here with my much-younger '16 Buick LaCrosse. The hood, roof, and trunk have faded just a little from hard sun in the almost six years since I bought it; painting might not be a bad idea. Mechanically it feels like a new car and I still smile when I walk up to it. The interior is almost new except for some shine on the driver's seat leather -- to be expected.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 04, 2025 08:55 AM (omVj0)

209 re: Idle-stop.

With my wife's car, the system's default is off. If you want it, you have to push the button to enable it. Fine. No problem. Just another system to ignore.

With my car, however, the system default is on. Every damn time I start the car I have to remember to push the button to disable it. I remember to do that less than half the time.

I've never hated a car system more than idle-stop.

Posted by: one hour sober at May 04, 2025 08:56 AM (Y1sOo)

210 A cassette tape. And 5 seconds after, it self-destructs.
Posted by: San Franpsycho
+++
IIRC cassette tapes always used to self destruct.
You just never knew when they were going to do it.

Posted by: Florida Peasant at May 04, 2025 08:58 AM (Lo97M)

211 Texas Roadhouse employees go above and beyond for beloved dog’s last meal:

https://tinyurl.com/38zwft4s
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 04, 2025
*
I'm blubbering like a little kid. What a sweet story.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at May 04, 2025


***
I have trouble believing the employees at my local TR would do that. This was in a smallish town in PA, though. Sometimes humans will surprise you.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 04, 2025 08:58 AM (omVj0)

212 “ We love because he first loved us. Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar. For whoever does not love their brother and sister, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen.”

1 John 4:19-20

Posted by: Marcus T at May 04, 2025 08:59 AM (VF09B)

213 Bring your reading glasses and head upstairs
BOOKWORM TIME

Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2025 09:00 AM (ypFCm)

214 .
NOOD

"Perfessor" Squirrel is here with the illustrious Sunday Morning Book Thread.

Remember to wear pants!

NOOD! (not Nude ya pantless deviated preverts.)

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at May 04, 2025 09:00 AM (O7YUW)

215 VIA, if you are still here, one of the key factors in dehumidification is the fan coil surface temp which is highly dependent on the CFM.

You probably know this already.

I don't know how all these new variable speed compressors and fans work together but they probably limit your system flexibility just to keep people from messing things up so they play it safe and pedestrian.

Tweaking your home AC is pretty out there as far as a population goes.

Just try dropping your peak CFM by 75% and see if that makes any difference. And keep your outside air damper open just a bit, unless you do a lot of cooking.

Posted by: pawn at May 04, 2025 09:00 AM (QB+5g)

216 Book thread is UP!

Posted by: PabloD at May 04, 2025 09:00 AM (hqOqg)

217 With my car, however, the system default is on. Every damn time I start the car I have to remember to push the button to disable it. I remember to do that less than half the time.

I've never hated a car system more than idle-stop.
Posted by: one hour sober at May 04, 2025


***
The '17-'19 LaCrosses default was that ASS (Auto-start-stop) was on, and you couldn't turn it off or defeat it without a $150 aftermarket device. I was glad to go with the '16, which has none of that.

My '15 BMW (RIP) would remember the setting from the last time -- off would stay off. But again, that was ten years ago.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 04, 2025 09:00 AM (omVj0)

218 Noodus biblioteca

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 04, 2025 09:01 AM (omVj0)

219 Carolina Pride >> Jimmy Dean

Posted by: Accomack at May 04, 2025 09:02 AM (R+sIE)

220 208 I'm thinking next it new carpet and having the seat redone. I have stayed away from comfort things as I wanted to be confident the important stuff was good to go first. Now I might even paint it.
Posted by: Reforger at May 04, 2025

***
Same here with my much-younger '16 Buick LaCrosse. The hood, roof, and trunk have faded just a little from hard sun in the almost six years since I bought it; painting might not be a bad idea. Mechanically it feels like a new car and I still smile when I walk up to it. The interior is almost new except for some shine on the driver's seat leather -- to be expected.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 04, 2025 08:55 AM (omVj0)
I’m always looking at classic 4X4 trucks when I should be looking for a smooth Burick or Crown Vic.

Posted by: Eromero at May 04, 2025 09:03 AM (LHPAg)

221 143
I do a Ctrl-Alt-Del which brings up a menu and I choose Task Manager. When that starts (or is running) everything works fine.

Posted by: Ciampino - The 3-fingered salute at May 04, 2025 09:11 AM (sPQoU)

222 MAY THE FOURTH BE WITH YOU

My goodness, where are my manners?

Posted by: m at May 04, 2025 09:21 AM (CQE5S)

223 166 We might have to learn. . . . and talk to each other again.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure

Okay, but I'm still going to look at my shoes while I do it.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 04, 2025 08:06 AM (vKNmo)
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An IT introvert looks at his shoes while talking to a busty lady.
An IT extrovert looks at her shoes while talking to a busty lady.

Posted by: Ciampino - pencils, we'll all need pencils at May 04, 2025 09:23 AM (sPQoU)

224 And the search engine will produce a ton of other, irrelevant and biased results
-

That's the trick, though. Many of us are old enough to remember when it would provide actual results. Things like Saltys work or the letter, or at least references to the letter.

Pre 2005 internet use was incredible.

Posted by: Boron Quidquid - Nose rings and tattoos show that her trauma is her personality at May 04, 2025 09:31 AM (gZdiR)

225 chrome isn't chrome: it's chromium (chrome itself is based on another project, chromium)

so edge is based on chrome which is based on chromium

Posted by: Nine at May 04, 2025 10:16 AM (agSBn)

226 Mozilla being sold (in a fire sale) to Brave would be poetry...

Posted by: ObeliskToucher at May 04, 2025 12:21 PM (m/YrU)

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