Food Thread: Porcine Perfection In Paris

That's what the lowly pork chop looks like in my new neck of the woods, and I for one heartily approve! The difference between it and the commodity pork that is readily available in the United States is significant, including (unfortunately) the cost. Yup, it is pricey, about $8/lb, But for that I get a spectacularly flavorful chop, with copious amounts of fat, and best of all, the delicious other muscles and fat along the perimeter that is almost always trimmed away by American pork processors.

Cooking it was easy! I seared the perimeter fat until nice and toasty, then seared one side to the same degree, flipped it over, plopped it into a warm oven for about 25 minutes (five minutes too long for me, but I wasn't the only one eating). It came out wonderfully browned, but tender and juicy. And the fat...that glorious fat! Delicious!

I know that America produces fantastic pork, but it is so damned hard to find! And I do appreciate the amazing job that our farmers and processors do with mass-market pork. I can get good stuff for a fraction of what I paid for that chop, and especially for smoking and BBQ, it is very, very good.

But a fella can dream, can't he?

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I am hoping against hope that the Trump administration will do something about the absolutely insane policy mandating biofuel use. In practice, that means ethanol in gasoline. The Renewable Fuel Standard was created by Congress through The Energy Policy Act of 2005 and the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007, both signed by our favorite Bush (spit).

It's a stupid idea, ignores the fact that petroleum is in abundance, and takes up valuable farmland that could be used to feed people. So any time anyone complains about starvation in the world, remind them of this pathetic policy.

What? Iowa farmers had something to do with it? I'm shocked that politics has intruded on our energy policy!

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The trend among a certain kind of internet recipe writer is to simplify. If the traditional recipe calls for nine ingredients and 45 minutes of prep and cooking, well they can do it with four ingredients and 12 minutes of prep and cooking time.

And sometimes it even works! But there is a subtext with many of them that seems to be reflexively against tradition in any form. "We modern cooks are so much more in tune with the environment and the people who do the cooking!"

Yeah...sure. Most of the time, traditional recipes are great because they have been tested and retested by millions of people over many years. Yes, shortcuts are great!

But not this one. Crustless Quiche Lorraine is a good idea, but this knuckle-dragger also removed the cream, so what we are left with is a hard-cooked bacon, egg, and cheese omelet.

What a maroon!

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Lurker "RS" does what a lot of good cooks do...he uses most recipes as a starting point, but brings his experience and particular palate to bear. And even more importantly, he is aware of the recipe's shortcomings and plans the next version accordingly.

Thought you might appreciate a report on a mid-week meal I prepared for my longsuffering spouse.

The starting point was this recipe, though I never follow recipes in detail: Roman Style Chicken

Used crushed tomatoes and passata to get up to two cups of sauce base. Added more capers and garlic plus a green bell pepper for additional color. Used more prosciutto.

Should've used more cayenne an maybe added mushrooms. Also, next time, fresh herbs instead of dried, and pass the chicken under the broiler at the end to crisp up the skin.

Served with rice, but the sauce should be reduced more or thickened with a corn starch slurry for a pasta side IMHO. Mashed cauliflower gratin would be a nice side as well, plus a green veg.

All in all, not bad. Spouse was happy.

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Three Martini Chicken

Of COURSE it caught my attention! I knew what it was before I clicked on the link, but it is a clever way of getting drinkers to look!

Vodka sauce isn't just an affectation or a change for change's sake. The alcohol extracts complex flavors from the tomatoes, and adds an interesting mouth feel that I think is wonderful!

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Hi from AshevilleRobert!
It's strawberry season here in my neck of the woods,so I got some local berries and made turnovers with homemade vanilla cream icing. Here's an example pic.

Yeah...they look good. I love that sort of stuff. There is nothing quite like fresh fruit!

And there's more from AshevilleRobert! Remember the Fish joint I linked to in last week's Food Thread? Well, he has some thoughts...

Good Hot Fish? We have not been there. My wife hates both catfish and trout. (She's weird).
Plus it's in an area of downtown where I wouldn't want to leave my car unattended for long.
This place has become one of our more favorite locations. It's a little west of Asheville... Haywood Smokehouse

Oh,and as far as fish goes, this is the one I'd recommend. Again, it's not in Asheville but close by.
Pisgah Fishcamp

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Why did nobody tell me to char my avocados before I make guacamole? Not that I am making any anytime soon, but what a good idea!

And...why is the plural of tomato, "tomatoes," when the plural of avocado is "avocados?"

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I thought France would have good garlic, but the Frogs seem to have the same problem we have in the U.S. At least they don't import filthy garlic from China. Pork is great here, but no game, so send all of your extra antelope to: cbd dot aoshq at gmail dot com.

~~Who are those poor deluded souls~~ We know who shakes their Manhattans! These are the same people who drink fine bourbon with coke, and probably shake red wine with ice too.

$1,200 for a bottle of bourbon is just stupid, insulting, and a ghastly affront to most people's palates and wallets. I think the sweet spot is $40-$60 for excellent and interesting bottles, and bumping that to $100 gets you an incremental improvement in quality, but nothing mind-blowing. More than that and I think you are paying for hype and rarity, which may look good in your liquor cabinet, but doesn't translate to more quality in the bottle.

The problem...or the solution...is to buy lots of bourbon, take tasting notes, and eventually arrive at your favorites! It should take forty of fifty years, but it is worth it!

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1 Called the corgis. Left the penguins behind.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 11, 2025 04:02 PM (VNX3d)

2 Premier!

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 11, 2025 04:03 PM (PiwSw)

3 Yay! Food!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 11, 2025 04:03 PM (Wnv9h)

4 Quelle dommage...

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 11, 2025 04:04 PM (PiwSw)

5 CBD, you can grill avocado and just serve it as a side dish with lime and salt.

I always preferred to grill it and fill it, though...haven't done it in a long time (b/c it's an easy dish to pull off for 2, and a pain in the butt to pull off for 7 on a hibachi grill), so gonna have to hit my personal memory banks (or the spouse) on what I filled it with, but something like a fresh tomato salad seems likely...

Posted by: Nova Local at May 11, 2025 04:04 PM (tOcjL)

6 Took the RMBS Mom out for brunch, and got sent home with some lovely new rhubarb. Time to make rhubarb ketchup.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 11, 2025 04:04 PM (Wnv9h)

7 I might be in Brevard next month, so I will have to put the Pisgah Fish Camp on the itinerary. I drove past it when I was last up there...

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 11, 2025 04:05 PM (PiwSw)

8 Mmmmmm....good...

Nom Nom Nom Nom Nom

Buuuuurrrrrpppppp!

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at May 11, 2025 04:05 PM (QGaXH)

9 Tonight's dinner is a throwback to my deceased mom.

For some reason, Aldi's stocked Amoroso rolls yesterday. So, it's fully loaded (cheese) steak sandwiches with Aldi's real rib eye shredded steak (no Steak Ums here) and add-your-own toppings - provolone, hour-long carmelized onions (do not rush them), sauteed bell peppers, and sauteed baby bellas.

With it is seasoned fries, a new-to-us Target salad bag (one with onion dressing - seemed on point) and strawberries/blueberries/grapes.

I was not supposed to cook (and this plan was made b/c the family could do it)...but I am. B/c everyone knows it's better if I do. Spouse did take me to an awesome Thai lunch to make up for it.

Posted by: Nova Local at May 11, 2025 04:07 PM (tOcjL)

10 Wife wanted pork chops tonight. However, she picked up boneless pork steaks which is even better for grilling, IMHO. Slathered them in mustard and Strawberry's BBQ seasoning. Grilling corn on the cob seasoned with lime pepper. Red Cabbage slaw with red onion, carrots, and golden raisins in a sweet vinaigrette.

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 11, 2025 04:12 PM (hoCmQ)

11 Also, son broke his hand. Surgery Wednesday. Wife's going over to stay with him for several days. We've been cooking and freezing meals all weekend for him while he's recuperating. Think we've got 40 frozen gallon storage bags of food going. Should last him a few weeks.

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 11, 2025 04:15 PM (hoCmQ)

12 Baked avocados with Bluebell Homemade Vanilla ice cream!

Posted by: Eromero at May 11, 2025 04:18 PM (VLn10)

13 11 Also, son broke his hand. Surgery Wednesday. Wife's going over to stay with him for several days. We've been cooking and freezing meals all weekend for him while he's recuperating. Think we've got 40 frozen gallon storage bags of food going. Should last him a few weeks.

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 11, 2025 04:15 PM (hoCmQ)

Get well soon sent to the son. Hopefully, it's his non-dominant hand...

Posted by: Nova Local at May 11, 2025 04:18 PM (tOcjL)

14 Had some kind of bowl with chicken and quinoa and shredded vegetables and soft cubed white cheese for lunch. It was very good ( made my folks at Weis market, not me) Spouse just wanted tuna, and son is dieting/fasting . Spouse will probably have spaghetti and meatballs for dinner, Son is not eating again till morning. It's a 12 hour fast thing.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 11, 2025 04:18 PM (42Vb+)

15 Posted by: Nova Local at May 11, 2025 04:18 PM (tOcjL

Amen.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 11, 2025 04:19 PM (42Vb+)

16 Forgot Have wifi at my parents

Posted by: Skip at May 11, 2025 04:20 PM (tl5zd)

17 If having pork chops must have mash potatoes and apple sauce

Posted by: Skip at May 11, 2025 04:20 PM (tl5zd)

18 Son is not eating again till morning. It's a 12 hour fast thing.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 11, 2025 04:18 PM (42Vb

I think it’s misnamed. If I knew it was going to be 12 hours without food the time would go slowly.

Posted by: Pete Bog at May 11, 2025 04:22 PM (UOtpB)

19 Fudge for lunch for me today… two layers, a chocolate layer and a coconut (“cocoanut”) lemon layer.

It’s from a 1915 Dromedary cookbook, which always have good food, but like all such books make interesting assumptions. Bring to a boil and cook for twelve minutes.

High heat? Low heat? I assumed that (a) they were talking about a fudge, and (b) the “fire” should be enough to take twelve minutes to get to 240°.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 11, 2025 04:23 PM (EXyHK)

20 On the way back from Kyiv, journalists unexpectedly entered the leaders’ cabin. German advisor Merz hid a spoon used for cocaine, while French President Macron concealed a bag..

https://tinyurl.com/4h29d9du

Posted by: 13times at May 11, 2025 04:23 PM (2WOTG)

21 Posted by: Pete Bog at May 11, 2025 04:22 PM (UOtpB

What would you call it instead?🙂

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 11, 2025 04:24 PM (42Vb+)

22 Why did nobody tell me to char my avocados before I make guacamole? Not that I am making any anytime soon, but what a good idea!

How many avocados does it take to make one mole of guacamole?

Avocado's number!

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at May 11, 2025 04:24 PM (QGaXH)

23 Actually , I'm wrong .It's an 18 fasting program since he ate lunch and won't eat again till the morning. Not sure how this is going to work out. He'll have breakfast and lunch tomorrow but after doing greenhouse work all day I would think he would be ravenous when he comes home,

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 11, 2025 04:28 PM (uNsfB)

24 Beautiful pork chop

Cries out for eucalyptus sauce.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 11, 2025 04:30 PM (RIvkX)

25 Lunch was Panisa Thai (if fellow NOVA folks have not gone, you are missing out).

They are great will allergies and they make the best Pad Crispy Duck. But, you can't eat all that fried meat with no veg (well, I can't), so the best thing to do is to family-style a meal with your spouse. Today, we tried something new - Pad Preow Wan and got "veg" as our protein (so it was tons of veg stir-fried with pineapple chucks, bell peppers, cherry tomatoes, onions, carrots, and scallions in a sweet and sour pineapple sauce) - aka we now had our meat and two and it was dynamite. I had more veg, spouse had more meat, and he loved every bite. Usually I order a side of steamed veg with my duck and take home half, but sharing and having the sauced veg was even better...and no leftovers.

Posted by: Nova Local at May 11, 2025 04:30 PM (tOcjL)

26 will = with (dang typo as I run to my mushrooms in the kitchen)...

Posted by: Nova Local at May 11, 2025 04:31 PM (tOcjL)

27
It’s from a 1915 Dromedary cookbook

The hump is tough.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 11, 2025 04:32 PM (63Dwl)

28 Thanks for the link to Three Martini Chicken! I have a jar of Castelvetrano olives that's been sitting forlorn in my pantry.

Dinner tonight will be spicy flank steak with peppers, onions, and olives.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 11, 2025 04:33 PM (28MUo)

29 https://tinyurl.com/4h29d9du

I know that guilty look; will I pull this off?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 11, 2025 04:33 PM (RIvkX)

30 The trend among a certain kind of internet recipe writer is to simplify. If the traditional recipe calls for nine ingredients and 45 minutes of prep and cooking, well they can do it with four ingredients and 12 minutes of prep and cooking time.

Our very own Weasel is in the vanguard of this movement, with 2 minutes from prep start to eating. Smoov!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 11, 2025 04:34 PM (0sNs1)

31 Get well soon sent to the son. Hopefully, it's his non-dominant hand...
Posted by: Nova Local at May 11, 2025 04:18
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Thank you. And of course it's his dominant hand. *Sigh*

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 11, 2025 04:34 PM (hoCmQ)

32 I have grilled pork chops, but best is with brown gravy

Posted by: Skip at May 11, 2025 04:35 PM (tl5zd)

33 Just watched a cute Vince Vaughn movie on Netflix, "Nonnas". About a restaurant staffed by Italian nonnas instead of professional chefs. I guess it's based on a true story.

Posted by: Tuna at May 11, 2025 04:35 PM (lJ0H4)

34 A&W here in Ontario had Teen burgers for sale for $4.99 Canadian. That's a hard price to beat in Canada where everything is so expensive.

I grabbed 2 yesterday. They were very good. Tomatoes, lettuce, onions - I think. But still good.

My late Mother and I also ate Arby's once in a while.

Time to see if the dog will eat some chicken and skins I just cooked with his food. So hard to feed.

Posted by: Stateless...25% - mental state clawing up from 10% at May 11, 2025 04:35 PM (jvJvP)

35 Baked avocados with Bluebell Homemade Vanilla ice cream!
Posted by: Eromero at May 11, 2025 04:18 PM

Our very own bluebell does not respect her namesake ice cream enough to move to where it's readily available. Sad!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 11, 2025 04:36 PM (0sNs1)

36 31 Get well soon sent to the son. Hopefully, it's his non-dominant hand...
Posted by: Nova Local at May 11, 2025 04:18
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Thank you. And of course it's his dominant hand. *Sigh*

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 11, 2025 04:34 PM (hoCmQ)

Man, I would be useless...

Posted by: Nova Local at May 11, 2025 04:38 PM (tOcjL)

37 So, it's fully loaded (cheese) steak sandwiches with Aldi's real rib eye shredded steak (no Steak Ums here) and add-your-own toppings - provolone, hour-long carmelized onions (do not rush them), sauteed bell peppers, and sauteed baby bellas.
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*eyes roll back*
*blacks out*

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 11, 2025 04:39 PM (RIvkX)

38 And...why is the plural of tomato, "tomatoes," when the plural of avocado is "avocados?"

Don't look at us.

Posted by: Potatoes at May 11, 2025 04:39 PM (0sNs1)

39 Pork in Pan, would hang.

Posted by: Next2Nothing at May 11, 2025 04:42 PM (tA1/w)

40
Hmmmmm.

Charring the avocados sound like a great way to cure someone of actually liking guacamole.

I pronounce it anathema, and CBD a food heretic.

Stay in France, foul minion of Satan's Kitchen!!!!

Posted by: naturalfake at May 11, 2025 04:43 PM (iJfKG)

41 Posted by: Tuna at May 11, 2025 04:35 PM (lJ0H4)

Got a very good review by Christian Toto at his website , "Hollywood in Toto.". It does sound cute .

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 11, 2025 04:43 PM (uNsfB)

42 I have never heard of eating avocados with ice cream. Is this a family thing or you came up with it on your own?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 11, 2025 04:45 PM (uNsfB)

43 I can second the recommendation for Pisgah Fish Camp in NC - it is just down the street from where my parents (and now Daughter #3 and her hubby) lived/live. Always go there for a meal at least once when we visit - usually more than once!

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Plucky Comic Relief, AoS Ladies Brigade - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at May 11, 2025 04:45 PM (SRRAx)

44 Stay in France, foul minion of Satan's Kitchen!!!!
Posted by: naturalfake at May 11, 2025 04:43 PM

To be fair, isn't it Brussels Sprouts that are prepared in Satan's Kitchen?

Posted by: Wesley Crusher at May 11, 2025 04:45 PM (0sNs1)

45 mmmmm ... avocados!

Posted by: Robert Francis "Beto" O'Rourke at May 11, 2025 04:46 PM (0sNs1)

46 Just watched a cute Vince Vaughn movie on Netflix, "Nonnas". About a restaurant staffed by Italian nonnas instead of professional chefs.

Best cannoli I’ve had in the United States was while traveling through Truth or Consequences, New Mexico. After visiting a disappointing bookstore, I happened to pass a small restaurant, which didn’t look to be anything special, but there was a handwritten sign on the lower portion of the door.

“Cannoli’s/Order/made while/you/wait.......”

There were maybe three dining tables in the restaurant, only one had anyone at it; I went up to the counter and one of the guys at the table went around behind the counter to take my order.

“I’d like a couple of cannoli to go.”

“MOM!!! This guy wants some cannoli!”

Mom got up from the table, walked around into the kitchen, and made the cannoli while I waited. I really should have doubled the order.

Restaurant sadly shut down in 2020. Replaced by the “Giddy Up Cafe”.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 11, 2025 04:47 PM (EXyHK)

47 “I’d like a couple of cannoli to go.”

“MOM!!! This guy wants some cannoli!”

Mom got up from the table, walked around into the kitchen, and made the cannoli while I waited. I really should have doubled the order.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 11, 2025 04:47 PM

But then you'd have had to leave two guns.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 11, 2025 04:48 PM (0sNs1)

48 Posted by: Tuna at May 11, 2025 04:35 PM (lJ0H4)

I really like Fish, but "Fish Camp" makes me laugh. It sounds like- the fish are doing arts and crafts and singing and toasting marshmallows by the camp fire.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 11, 2025 04:49 PM (uNsfB)

49 But then you'd have had to leave two guns.

:)

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 11, 2025 04:50 PM (EXyHK)

50 Ooops. That was Teresa not Tuna who mentioned fish camp. Sorry!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 11, 2025 04:51 PM (uNsfB)

51 The chuck roast slow cooked in sofrita is shredded and ready to fill the poblanos for rellenos tomorrow.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 11, 2025 04:52 PM (NVNRw)

52 Posted by: Tuna at May 11, 2025 04:35 PM (lJ0H4)

I really like Fish, but "Fish Camp" makes me laugh. It sounds like- the fish are doing arts and crafts and singing and toasting marshmallows by the camp fire.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 11, 2025 04:49 PM (uNsfB)

Learning how to identify hooks and lines and nets, and how to break free from them. Where to find the best food, and how to find good hiding places.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 11, 2025 04:52 PM (VNX3d)

53 Posted by: Tuna at May 11, 2025 04:35 PM (lJ0H4)

I really like Fish, but "Fish Camp" makes me laugh. It sounds like- the fish are doing arts and crafts and singing and toasting marshmallows by the camp fire.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 11, 2025 04:49 PM (uNsfB)

Learning how to identify hooks and lines and nets, and how to break free from them. Where to find the best food, and how to find good hiding places.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 11, 2025 04:52 PM (VNX3d)

Something like Fish Scouts.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 11, 2025 04:52 PM (VNX3d)

54 And of course it's his dominant hand.

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 11, 2025 04:34 PM (hoCmQ)

It will put off the blindness for awhile.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 11, 2025 04:53 PM (L5An7)

55 A vendor at the farmers market has some of his locally grown garlic and I am in love. It is not nuclear strong but very flavorful and aromatic. So much better than the stuff from the supermarket. I've been using it in the balsamic salad dressing I make (which is so good it should be its own food group) and it has me thinking of more ways to use it. This is a pleasant task.

Posted by: JTB at May 11, 2025 04:54 PM (yTvNw)

56 Restaurant sadly shut down in 2020. Replaced by the “Giddy Up Cafe”.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 11, 2025 04:47 PM (EXyHK)

The Left will counter with you were raised in a privileged community. And that systematic racism accounts for all racial differences.

Posted by: coyne at May 11, 2025 04:55 PM (/N6b1)

57 37 So, it's fully loaded (cheese) steak sandwiches with Aldi's real rib eye shredded steak (no Steak Ums here) and add-your-own toppings - provolone, hour-long carmelized onions (do not rush them), sauteed bell peppers, and sauteed baby bellas.
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*eyes roll back*
*blacks out*

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 11, 2025 04:39 PM (RIvkX)

Yeah, I don't do them often...but today seemed like the right day. Amoroso rolls were a sign.

Posted by: Nova Local at May 11, 2025 04:56 PM (tOcjL)

58 Had a craving for frosted mini wheats yesterday. Had not eaten those in a decade or so. Not too shabby.

Posted by: scampydog at May 11, 2025 04:56 PM (ts0V4)

59 Stay in France, foul minion of Satan's Kitchen!!!!

Posted by: naturalfake at May 11, 2025 04:43 PM (iJfKG)

You of all people have no right to criticize anyone's good tastes!

Shaken Manhattans...my ass!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 11, 2025 04:57 PM (L5An7)

60 Just watched a cute Vince Vaughn movie on Netflix, "Nonnas". About a restaurant staffed by Italian nonnas instead of professional chefs. I guess it's based on a true story.
Posted by: Tuna at May 11, 2025 04:35

We watched that last night, enjoyed it.

Posted by: Farmer, with his own historical take at May 11, 2025 04:58 PM (55Qr6)

61 Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 11, 2025 04:52 PM (VNX3d)

Sounds like a good idea for a camp or scouts. Freshwater version of " SpongeBob" as well.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 11, 2025 04:58 PM (42Vb+)

62 Nice photos of the food/users today!

My personal preference, unless there's something glaringly wrong, is to cook a new recipe by the book the first time around to see what the author intended.

On the 2nd pass, all bets are off and I'll modify it nine ways to Sunday to improve and get the result I want. The system's been working pretty well so far.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at May 11, 2025 04:59 PM (/HDaX)

63 Stephen Price Blair,

Ordered your ice cream cookbook. Haven't tried any of them yet but they look REALLY tasty.

We have several recipe collections published by businesses, church groups, and even utility companies that were passed down from Mrs. JTB's grandmother. Always fun to go through.

Posted by: JTB at May 11, 2025 05:00 PM (yTvNw)

64 Just watched a cute Vince Vaughn movie on Netflix, "Nonnas". About a restaurant staffed by Italian nonnas instead of professional chefs. I guess it's based on a true story.
Posted by: Tuna at May 11, 2025 04:35

We watched that last night, enjoyed it.
Posted by: Farmer, with his own historical take at May 11, 2025 04:58 PM (55Qr6)

It's a fun movie.

I suspect anyone of the age 29 and above persuasion and of Italian descent will get a massive nostalgia bomb from watching this.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 11, 2025 05:00 PM (iJfKG)

65 Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at May 11, 2025 04:59 PM (/HDaX)

That's exactly what I do, but I annotate as I go just to keep my thoughts fresh when I revisit the recipe.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 11, 2025 05:01 PM (L5An7)

66 …and even utility companies

I’ve found the gas/electric company cookbooks to be generally above average. They’re not just trying to sell you something once. They’re selling power, and they want you to keep using it. A recipe that sounds good isn’t nearly as useful for that as a recipe that is good.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 11, 2025 05:03 PM (EXyHK)

67 … and thanks for ordering the book!

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 11, 2025 05:03 PM (EXyHK)

68 Stephen Price Blair,

Ordered your ice cream cookbook. Haven't tried any of them yet but they look REALLY tasty.

I put it on my Amazon list and I'll pop for it on the next order very soon. Gotta buy a few replacement parts for our old DC25 Dyson vacuum cleaner.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at May 11, 2025 05:06 PM (/HDaX)

69 That's exactly what I do, but I annotate as I go just to keep my thoughts fresh when I revisit the recipe.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 11, 2025 05:01 PM (L5An7)

Sometime I annotate, sometimes I'm too lazy. And I have a thousand little 3M stickies bookmarking favorite recipes in all my cookbooks.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at May 11, 2025 05:08 PM (/HDaX)

70 I was listening to a Joe Rogan podcast from 2020 with Bret Weinstein. Thier discussion of Covid looking back now was fascinating.

But they also both at that time talked about Bidens cognitive decline. This was in 2020, long before the main steam media admitted there was anything wrong with Biden.

Posted by: coyne at May 11, 2025 05:09 PM (/N6b1)

71 It’s from a 1915 Dromedary cookbook. . .
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair

"First, Skin and debone on camel. . . ."

Posted by: Tonypete at May 11, 2025 05:10 PM (cYBz/)

72 Do any of you food folk have one of those snazzy gas flat top grills (griddles)?

If so, what brand and do you recommend it?

Posted by: naturalfake at May 11, 2025 05:11 PM (iJfKG)

73 As it happens, we will be having lovely pork chops for supper along with corn on the cob.

I'll use, once again, Hrothgar's Easy Bake Pork Chop recipe (page 284, The Deplorable Gourmet) - always a sure winner.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 11, 2025 05:12 PM (cYBz/)

74 Do any of you food folk have one of those snazzy gas flat top grills (griddles)?

If so, what brand and do you recommend it?

Posted by: naturalfake at May 11, 2025 05:11 PM (iJfKG)

You can use a simple pan to cook anything if you do it right.

You don't need anything snazzy.

Posted by: coyne at May 11, 2025 05:15 PM (/N6b1)

75 I know that America produces fantastic pork, but it is so damned hard to find! And I do appreciate the amazing job that our farmers and processors do with mass-market pork. I can get good stuff for a fraction of what I paid for that chop, and especially for smoking and BBQ, it is very, very good.

But a fella can dream, can't he?
>>>

Thank goodness my sister and bro-in-law raise heritage porkers on their farm. A bit leaner and whole lot tastier than the supermarket items.

Posted by: mrp at May 11, 2025 05:16 PM (rj6Yv)

76 >>Just watched a cute Vince Vaughn movie on Netflix, "Nonnas". About a restaurant staffed by Italian nonnas instead of professional chefs. I guess it's based on a true story.

The best office Christmas party I ever attended was at a small, and by small I mean my office of 7 people and guests were the only people in the place, family run restaurant in the North End in Boston. For those who don't know the North End it's basically Italy.

After the hostess, the granddaughter of the owner seated us, she asked if we would like a menu or if we would like her mother and grandmother to cook for us. We made the obvious call. 5 or 6 courses and many hours later we rolled out of the place after one of the best feasts I've even attended.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 11, 2025 05:16 PM (Cuq5O)

77 I recently invented mixing DR peanuts and chocolate chips as a delightful snack. I'm calling it WeaselMix.

Posted by: Weasel at May 11, 2025 05:16 PM (lG3Q4)

78 It will put off the blindness for awhile.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 11, 2025 04:53
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Good point.

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 11, 2025 05:16 PM (hoCmQ)

79 "First, Skin and debone on camel. . . ."

There was an elephant stew making the rounds of community cookbooks in the sixties and seventies (and probably earlier) for elephant stew.

1 elephant (medium size)
salt and pepper
brown gravy to cover
2 rabbits (optional)

Cut the elephant into bitesize pieces. This should take about two months. Add the brown gravy and cook over kerosene fire about four weeks at 465 degrees. This will serve 3,800 people. If more are expected, two rabbits may be added, but do this only if necessary as most people do not like to find hare in their stew!

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 11, 2025 05:17 PM (EXyHK)

80 And I have a thousand little 3M stickies bookmarking favorite recipes in all my cookbooks.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent

*clears throat ala Cliff Claven. . .*

It's a little known fact that the first few pitch meetings at 3M for Post-Its in front of the suits fell flat on there face. The inventor/pitch man countered by sending samples to all the executive secretaries he could find in the company. Eventually, those gals started demanding them.

(If this sea story isn't true, it should be.)

Posted by: Tonypete at May 11, 2025 05:17 PM (cYBz/)

81 Made my first yeast bread in many years AND IT WORKED! (That is not a sure thing with my baking.) Learned a few things in the process. First, yeast kept in the freezer for several years still works fine. Second, the cast iron bread pans from Lodge work great. Butter them lightly and the bread pops out with no problem. (They also work great for banana and other quick breads.) Third, almost nothing tastes better than bread fresh from your oven and slathered with Kerry Gold butter. Fourth, the Swedish dough whisk may be the greatest kitchen invention since cast iron cookware.

Next attempt, the no knead recipe on the back of the King Arthur bread flour bag.

Posted by: JTB at May 11, 2025 05:17 PM (yTvNw)

82 45 mmmmm ... avocados!
Posted by: Robert Francis "Beto" O'Rourke at May 11, 2025 04:46 PM (0sNs1)

That clown recently held a “town hall” in Amarillo. I sense Beto Pancho will be running for Senate or Gov again…

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 11, 2025 05:19 PM (vm8sq)

83 I went to Jack Wingate's fish camp for a week two times as a kid. That's where I learned to fly fish but we did a lot of other kinds of fishing and skeet shooting too. If you've spent any time on Lake Seminole you probably heard of Jack.

Posted by: fd at May 11, 2025 05:19 PM (vFG9F)

84 BUT…on to food. Stockpiling recipes to try at some point. And I think food prices are coming down, slowly.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 11, 2025 05:20 PM (vm8sq)

85 And, as of a few minutes ago I have the Padgett Sunday Supper Club weekly recipes (see link in nic) filled out through July 5, 2026. From January 1 2026 on all of the recipes are from either bicentennial cookbooks, 1876 cookbooks, or the 1796 American Cookery.

Research is fun. And filling.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 11, 2025 05:20 PM (EXyHK)

86 I have worked building lots of eating places, not many still as was built.

Posted by: Skip at May 11, 2025 05:20 PM (tl5zd)

87 Made my first yeast bread in many years AND IT WORKED!
Posted by: JTB

Excellent!!

I have a loaf of sourdough resting right now in prep for baking. I use parchment paper in my dutch ovens and the loaves come out without incident.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 11, 2025 05:21 PM (cYBz/)

88 If more are expected, two rabbits may be added, but do this only if necessary as most people do not like to find hare in their stew!
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 11, 2025 05:17 PM

I was pricing rabbit at the market yesterday. $10.99/lb! Dafuq?!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 11, 2025 05:21 PM (Wnv9h)

89 I made 2 batches of yeast bread yesterday The first was nibbled to death while fresh from the oven (butter and a bit of sea salt) so i decided to make another so we would have hot bread at dinner (of A-15 wagyu for husbands bday! Unbelievably tender and rich!) The bread recipe is from a costco Flyer, or all things, and is seemingly foolproof. Fresh baked bread is such a treat.

Posted by: LASue at May 11, 2025 05:21 PM (lCppi)

90 I was pricing rabbit at the market yesterday. $10.99/lb! Dafuq?!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState

Made you hopping mad?

Posted by: Tonypete at May 11, 2025 05:22 PM (cYBz/)

91 88 If more are expected, two rabbits may be added, but do this only if necessary as most people do not like to find hare in their stew!
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 11, 2025 05:17 PM

I was pricing rabbit at the market yesterday. $10.99/lb! Dafuq?!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 11, 2025 05:21 PM (Wnv9h)

Supply and demand - no one wants to cook it, so stores only stock a little, and price accordingly...

Posted by: Nova Local at May 11, 2025 05:22 PM (tOcjL)

92 Do any of you food folk have one of those snazzy gas flat top grills (griddles)?

If so, what brand and do you recommend it?

Posted by: naturalfake at May 11, 2025 05:11 PM (iJfKG)

You can use a simple pan to cook anything if you do it right.

You don't need anything snazzy.
Posted by: coyne at May 11, 2025 05:15 PM (/N6b1)

Oh, I know. But, some things lend themselves to be cooked outside. And, while my wood pellet grill is excellent for just about anything I haven't been satisfied with it for griddle cooking, if for nothing else the amount of food that I can cook at once.

So, I started thinking about a flat top grill. I haven't convinced myself yet, but it never hurts to hear other's experiences.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 11, 2025 05:23 PM (iJfKG)

93 I am making chili this week, part cow part pig, diced habanero peppers, no beans

Jiffy cornbread

Posted by: Don Black. Message: always be closing at May 11, 2025 05:23 PM (AOsQT)

94 Somehow I’m reminded of Raj Kooprathalli saying he will miss beef most of all when he loses his job and thinks he has to go back to India.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 11, 2025 05:24 PM (cK4Fj)

95 Mounds cookies for the dairy/nut sufferers...

Make the recipe on the back of the dairy-free dark chocolate chip bag...BUT, use dairy free lard or vegan butter (I used lard). Take away 1/2 cup of the flour and add in 1/2 up of Hershey dark cocoa powder. Make sure you fully add the salt and add extra vanilla. Add 1/2 cup-ish of dried sweetened coconut and only 1/2 the chocolate chips. Cook accordingly.

Got destroyed at my house and youth group. I was inspired to make them b/c I went to my Church's bake sale and bought a Mounds cake for my other kid's youth group, but they only had one...and then I wanted Mounds, which I can't eat, even though dark chocolate with coconut should be okay...

PS - And you all can do wets and drys separate, but my one bowl trick is do sugar and fat...then all the rest of the liquids...then everything powder in order of amount (so flour is last)...then the mix-ins. Fool-proof and one bowl...

Posted by: Nova Local at May 11, 2025 05:27 PM (tOcjL)

96 Spanish versus English plurals: potato, potatoes, caballo, caballos.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 11, 2025 05:28 PM (cK4Fj)

97 I tried gluten free bread at communion this morning. Tasted like a cookie.

Posted by: Eromero at May 11, 2025 05:30 PM (LHPAg)

98 I recently invented mixing DR peanuts and chocolate chips as a delightful snack. I'm calling it WeaselMix.
Posted by: Weasel at May 11, 2025 05:16

Weasel, I'm partial to Cocktail Peanuts mixed with M & Ms. Don't think I'll call it FarmerMix tho, sounds like something you'd feed livestock.

Posted by: Farmer, with his own historical take at May 11, 2025 05:31 PM (55Qr6)

99 Eromero, sounds like you are back to eating normally.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 11, 2025 05:32 PM (NVNRw)

100 So, I started thinking about a flat top grill. I haven't convinced myself yet, but it never hurts to hear other's experiences.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 11, 2025 05:23
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I had a cheap china one from Academy Sports for awhile. It was a lot of fun but didn't last. Tons of rust.
If I got new one might try a Blackstone if it's still made in the states.

Would a large griddle on your grill work?

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 11, 2025 05:32 PM (hoCmQ)

101 87 ... "I have a loaf of sourdough resting right now in prep for baking. I use parchment paper in my dutch ovens and the loaves come out without incident."

The Lodge bread pans are rectangular like regular Pyrex bread pans. Haven't tried bread made in a Dutch oven yet, although I've read about it, but we have a lot of parchment paper. I would prefer that to buttering a big Dutch oven. That butter should be in my stomach, not greasing a big pot.

Posted by: JTB at May 11, 2025 05:32 PM (yTvNw)

102 Naturalfake,

i bought a Blackstone griddle last May. My wife has made much mirth over the years about my penchant for buying just about any outdoor cooking implement that I wander past.

The Blackstone and the Traeger are two that will remain in the rotation. I love the ease and simplicity of the griddle. Since smashburgers are now a thing in our house it is an essential. I use it for everything.

Posted by: Pete Bog at May 11, 2025 05:35 PM (UOtpB)

103 (If this sea story isn't true, it should be.)
Posted by: Tonypete at May 11, 2025 05:17 PM (cYBz/)

Not quite, Cliffy, but kind of. Wiki's recounting is not quite as cool.

Posted by: Norm! at May 11, 2025 05:36 PM (/HDaX)

104 Posted by: Farmer, with his own historical take at May 11, 2025 05:31 PM (55Qr6)
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*fistbump*

Posted by: Weasel at May 11, 2025 05:36 PM (xkUyn)

105 Rancherbob has a Blackstone grill and it was a lifesaver at the last MoMe.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 11, 2025 05:36 PM (NVNRw)

106 Rhubarb ketchup accomplished. It can be cocktail o'clock.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 11, 2025 05:36 PM (Wnv9h)

107 Posted by: fd at May 11, 2025 05:19 PM (vFG9F

Sounds great !

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 11, 2025 05:37 PM (gnetv)

108 Rancherbob has a Blackstone grill and it was a lifesaver at the last MoMe.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 11, 2025 05:36 PM (NVNRw)

History will repeat!

Posted by: Pete Bog at May 11, 2025 05:37 PM (UOtpB)

109 Since we're past 100, and it's a CBD thread. Willowed:

Since someone started talking about ottomans, lets try this hippopotaman.

https://tinyurl.com/zwun99wm
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 11, 2025 04:00 PM (VNX3d)

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 11, 2025 05:38 PM (VNX3d)

110 99 Eromero, sounds like you are back to eating normally.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 11, 2025 05:32 PM (NVNRw)
Still have to be very careful, small bites chewed thoroughly, then cautiously. Else I choke.

Posted by: Eromero at May 11, 2025 05:39 PM (LHPAg)

111 It will put off the blindness for awhile.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 11, 2025 04:53
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Good point.
Posted by: olddog in mo at May 11, 2025 05:16 PM

And reduce the frequency of shaving one's palms.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 11, 2025 05:41 PM (0sNs1)

112 Good to know parts of Asheville are like San Francisco (not safe to leave your car for long). Sounds like fruits of the labors of the city planners!

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 11, 2025 05:42 PM (36PRH)

113 Pete Bog, I found a garlic herb focaccia loaf that makes the best bun for hamburgers.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 11, 2025 05:42 PM (NVNRw)

114 A&W here in Ontario had Teen burgers for sale for $4.99 Canadian. That's a hard price to beat in Canada where everything is so expensive.

I grabbed 2 yesterday. They were very good. Tomatoes, lettuce, onions - I think. But still good.

My late Mother and I also ate Arby's once in a while.

Time to see if the dog will eat some chicken and skins I just cooked with his food. So hard to feed.

Posted by: Stateless...25% - mental state clawing up from 10% at May 11, 2025 04:35 PM (jvJvP)

I was up north of the border recently and holy crap, have the food prices gone up across the board. Didn't matter which store I was in. Although one (ahem) helpfully had signs on the shelves for the products whose price increases could be blamed on the tariffs.

Posted by: Vendette at May 11, 2025 05:42 PM (Dk29P)

115 Pete Bog, I found a garlic herb focaccia loaf that makes the best bun for hamburgers.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 11, 2025 05:42 PM (NVNRw)

That sounds great. Locally made or HEB?

Posted by: Pete Bog at May 11, 2025 05:44 PM (UOtpB)

116 "Sounds great !
Posted by: FenelonSpoke"

It was. I liked it better than Boy Scouts. I found this blurb about him:

"Every summer beginning in 1966, he held Wingate’s Fishing Camp for Boys, at which he hosted 12 young men a week for eight weeks, teaching them bass fishing, fly fishing, gun safety, Indian lore and outboard motor operation. In addition to these skills, almost all left with a respect for the outdoors and an appreciation of nature."

Posted by: fd at May 11, 2025 05:47 PM (vFG9F)

117 Happen to see the price of eggs at the store this morning. The price is down almost 2 bucks for a dozen and a half from last week. Still an absurd price but at least it is dropping.

Posted by: JTB at May 11, 2025 05:47 PM (yTvNw)

118 JTB try using bacon grease to grease baking dishes. I recently did this when I made popovers earlier this week. Worked like a charm and I didn't notice any bacon flavor, although I wouldn't have minded it. Save your own bacon grease and it's much cheaper than using butter!

Posted by: DanMa'am at May 11, 2025 05:48 PM (8uzBS)

119 Just ate some Cookies 'n Cream ice cream, now having a 530 calorie Boost.

Posted by: Eromero at May 11, 2025 05:48 PM (LHPAg)

120 Pete Bog, HEB izzio brand.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 11, 2025 05:48 PM (NVNRw)

121 I think that pork chop would be a T-bone if it came off a steer.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 11, 2025 05:49 PM (0zCeC)

122 CBD, even though Iowa is #1, lots of midwestern states produce fuel ethanol. For example, the Dakotas combined come in at #2 or #3 overall depending on the year. Therefore, it ain't just Iowa's politicians who are fans of the stuff.

Posted by: Vendette at May 11, 2025 05:50 PM (Dk29P)

123 And...why is the plural of tomato, "tomatoes," when the plural of avocado is "avocados?"

When I spell a word . . . — Humpty Dumpty

Posted by: Rob at May 11, 2025 05:52 PM (adW4t)

124 I'm surprised the French are allowed to sell pork in their country because of their Muslim invaders.

Posted by: Archer at May 11, 2025 05:52 PM (IDphi)

125 12 large white eggs $5.49

Posted by: Don Black. Message: always be closing at May 11, 2025 05:55 PM (AOsQT)

126 124 I'm surprised the French are allowed to sell pork in their country because of their Muslim invaders.
Posted by: Archer at May 11, 2025 05:52 PM (IDphi)
No hurry.
- m. mahomet

Posted by: Eromero at May 11, 2025 05:56 PM (LHPAg)

127 I am pleased to report that the flank steak with lightly sautéed onions and bell pepper was delicioso! *chef'skiss*

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 11, 2025 05:57 PM (kpS4V)

128 cheap china one from Academy Sports for awhile.

Sounds like the griddle was made of porcelain, so of course it would break (I know you said rust, just pointing out an obvious joke).

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 11, 2025 05:57 PM (cK4Fj)

129 121 I think that pork chop would be a T-bone if it came off a steer

Actually would be a bone-in chuck roast. The T-bone is on the other end of the pork loin.

Posted by: Miflin at May 11, 2025 05:57 PM (aA6YN)

130 One dozen large eggs were $3.49 at Safeway.

Posted by: Archer at May 11, 2025 05:58 PM (IDphi)

131 I think that pork chop would be a T-bone if it came off a steer.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 11, 2025 05:49 PM

Which reminds me that I have a thick cut pork porterhouse I need to do something with this week.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 11, 2025 05:59 PM (Wnv9h)

132 Spanish for tomato is tomate. Tomato is English, so English plural: tomatoes.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 11, 2025 06:00 PM (cK4Fj)

133 I've found that some of the "farmer's market" butchers who are offloading their less desirable cuts of beef or pork or lamb will cater to your wishes with little, if any overhead.

And be happy if you're a repeat customer.

With cash.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 11, 2025 06:00 PM (Q4IgG)

134 118 ..." try using bacon grease to grease baking dishes."

Thanks for the tip. I always save bacon grease but use it for frying eggs. It won't last long enough to grease a pot. However, that would be a good excuse to cook more bacon.

Posted by: JTB at May 11, 2025 06:01 PM (yTvNw)

135 https://tinyurl.com/zwun99wm
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 11, 2025 04:00 PM (VNX3d)
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 11, 2025 05:38 PM (VNX3d)

I have a footstool:

https://tinyurl.com/2yea4e5w

Mine has black high-top sneakers, and is decorated with flames like a hot rod.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 11, 2025 06:01 PM (0zCeC)

136 Off topic: Texas boobies behind the Dallas bench.

Posted by: Archer at May 11, 2025 06:03 PM (IDphi)

137 Think ethanol (fed subsidy, reg, whatever) has been a thing since .... Jimmy Carter? If not earlier? By Bush II it was far beyond well entrenched as a pork barrel fixture.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 11, 2025 06:04 PM (1m82a)

138 https://tinyurl.com/zwun99wm
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 11, 2025 04:00 PM (VNX3d)
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 11, 2025 05:38 PM (VNX3d)

I have a footstool:

https://tinyurl.com/2yea4e5w

Mine has black high-top sneakers, and is decorated with flames like a hot rod.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 11, 2025 06:01 PM (0zCeC)

I'll say this - I don't want to see a painting or photo of a naked guy on either one.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 11, 2025 06:04 PM (VNX3d)

139
Thanks, Pete Bog!

When you say Traeger are you talking about a wood pellet grill or their newish flat top grill?

Posted by: naturalfake at May 11, 2025 06:04 PM (iJfKG)

140 Son #1 on his way to join me for a walk on the beach and then he’s taking me out to his favorite steakhouse.

I can’t wait! Fun thing about basically never eating out is, when I do, it’s really special.

Please. Call your mom. Or say thank you if she’s no longer here. Moms work hard. It’s a heartbreaking responsibility. They make mistakes, and say things they don’t mean on the heat of the moment, but they love you.

Thanks,
Mom

I wish you had met my boys. You would have loved them.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 11, 2025 06:05 PM (mT+6a)

141 And NY GOP Housecritters are a key element trying to prevent the desperately needed extermination of the idiotic "green" energy looting in the orwellian and absurdly named "Inflation Reduction Act". So now not just ethanol farmers are looting the public treasury, but House GOP districts too. Progress!

Posted by: rhomboid at May 11, 2025 06:06 PM (1m82a)

142 >One dozen large eggs were $3.49 at Safeway.

Posted by: Archer
----

well, you probably don't have a homo governor married to a homo animal rights extremist

Posted by: Don Black. Message: always be closing at May 11, 2025 06:07 PM (AOsQT)

143 Beef carcass diagram,

https://tiny.cc/#

Posted by: Miflin at May 11, 2025 06:07 PM (aA6YN)

144 Posted by: fd at May 11, 2025 05:47 PM (vFG9F

Wonderful that the man took it upon himself with the help of others teach skills that can last a lifetime , and give so much satisfaction Our church patriarch who is 94 has been a avid fisherman for most of this life , and he taught a the boys in his Boy Scout troop/ which he had for about 37 years - fishings skills as well. I am not sure if he taught his daughters this as well but he enjoyed being a Boy Scout leader and one of the kids in his troop now in his 60's or 70's just took him out fly fishing just two weeks ago. He caught seven trout!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 11, 2025 06:08 PM (jwV58)

145 My mom's been gone for 35 years, so I'm taking my wife, the mother of my sons, out for supper tonight.

Posted by: Archer at May 11, 2025 06:09 PM (IDphi)

146 There's a camel dairy out in the county in the wine country, but not curious or tempted. Female supervisor hates goat cheese, so no need to seek that out either, though I think there's local production.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 11, 2025 06:11 PM (1m82a)

147 Posted by: Archer at May 11, 2025 06:09 PM (IDphi)

I hope you have a lovely time.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 11, 2025 06:12 PM (jwV58)

148 145 My mom's been gone for 35 years, so I'm taking my wife, the mother of my sons, out for supper tonight.
Posted by: Archer

My mom has been gone since 1991.

Give your wife a smooch from me. Moms share something the left can never take away, no matter how much they try to negate us.

All you moms.
Happy Mother’s Day.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 11, 2025 06:12 PM (mT+6a)

149 but House GOP districts too. Progress!

Posted by: rhomboid at May 11, 2025 06:06 PM (1m82a)

Yeah, basically House GOP have been complicit in the corruption. And that remains why Trump won't get any help from them in his efforts to reform government.

Posted by: coyne at May 11, 2025 06:13 PM (/N6b1)

150
English plural: tomatoes

maters

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 11, 2025 06:14 PM (63Dwl)

151 Gonna cool off again which will give me a chance to another tourtiere. Wish I could find the green tomato relish I had when I made my first tourtiere. One year for reasons lost to memory I had a bunch of mid-size green tomatoes from the yard, made my own relish, was fantastic.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 11, 2025 06:14 PM (1m82a)

152 Today marks 51 trips around the sun with Mrs D. So dinner is filets, twice bakes potatoes, a green thing, and strawberry shortcake for dessert.
All paired a particularly fine pinot noir, plus a generous dallop of Buffalo Trace before and after dinner.
Woohoo!

Posted by: Diogenes at May 11, 2025 06:15 PM (W/lyH)

153 I want real gasoline, and I go out of my way to fill up my truck with it at an extra dollar a gallon. My usual supply, a convenience store in the country (fishing boats) had run out, so I’ll wait until they’ve refilled or go to my backup source, another country gas station.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 11, 2025 06:15 PM (cK4Fj)

154 I have to give shout out to Haywood BBQ also. We have a place in Waynesville and it's the best Q I've ever had. I almost never eat BBQ anymore here at home in Augusta just because it doesn't compare.

Posted by: cheztrainor at May 11, 2025 06:16 PM (Uis59)

155 AOP a article on Alberta able to separate at American Thinker ( I think that's where)

Posted by: Skip at May 11, 2025 06:16 PM (tl5zd)

156 Most crops grown in the Midwest aren't food, they're what food eats. Not to say small-grains like wheat and oats couldn't make a return, displacing some of the dent corn and soybeans, but absent another larger market I can see why the Midwest went for ethanol. If the cattle and hog markets were to ever become competitive and challenge the ethanol buyers, that would certainly be a plus as well.

Posted by: MaxDamage at May 11, 2025 06:17 PM (Zmh2V)

157 Posted by: Diogenes at May 11, 2025 06:15 PM (W/lyH)

51 years? Were you a child bride and groom?😉 J/K. Congratulations and God bless you both. Enjoy what sounds like a lovely dinner.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 11, 2025 06:18 PM (jwV58)

158 "He caught seven trout!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke "

He sounds like a great guy and wonderful mentor.

Posted by: fd at May 11, 2025 06:19 PM (vFG9F)

159 There's a camel dairy out in the county in the wine
Posted by: rhomboid at May 11, 2025 06:11 PM (1m82a)

I’ve had camel cheese. It was a single cream so technically a dromedary but not bad.

Posted by: Pete Bog at May 11, 2025 06:19 PM (r6yYV)

160 Diogenes, perhaps a stick to burn with the after-dinner bourbon?

Posted by: rhomboid at May 11, 2025 06:19 PM (1m82a)

161 AOP a article on Alberta able to separate at American Thinker ( I think that's where)
Posted by: Skip at May 11, 2025 06:16 PM (tl5zd)

I am sure it is legally possible.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 11, 2025 06:20 PM (0zCeC)

162 The cattle industry is going to take a big jump with the UK going to start importing our beef.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 11, 2025 06:20 PM (NVNRw)

163 I find chèvre delightful, but chacun à son gout.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 11, 2025 06:21 PM (cK4Fj)

164 When you say Traeger are you talking about a wood pellet grill or their newish flat top grill?

Posted by: naturalfake at May 11, 2025 06:04 PM (iJfKG)

Pellet Smoker. It is probably my third or fourth one. Each one the quality has declined. My next pellet smoker will be a different brand. I use it a lot.

Posted by: Pete Bog at May 11, 2025 06:23 PM (r6yYV)

165 Posted by: fd at May 11, 2025 06:19 PM (vFG9F)

As much as there were problems with some scout leaders, R . Was a stand up guy and many of his Boy Scouts keep in touch with him and still call him "Mr _____" because they won't call him by his first name. Even decades later . It was a good thing for the stellar scout leaders who didn't have any boys because it gave them the sense of having sons

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 11, 2025 06:23 PM (jwV58)

166 143 Beef carcass diagram,

https://tiny.cc/#
Posted by: Miflin at May 11, 2025 06:07 PM (aA6YN)

Got one of those framed and hanging in my kitchen..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at May 11, 2025 06:24 PM (p5bPB)

167 I am sure it is legally possible.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 11, 2025 06:20 PM (0zCeC)

Do you really think it is. I don't know about Canada's legal principles.

Posted by: coyne at May 11, 2025 06:24 PM (/N6b1)

168 51 years? Were you a child bride and groom?😉 J/K. Congratulations and God bless you both. Enjoy what sounds like a lovely dinner.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 11, 2025 06:18 PM (jwV5

That's what happens when they make cradles with low sides. I was able to climb into it.
;-)

Posted by: Diogenes at May 11, 2025 06:24 PM (W/lyH)

169 My knives and my brain are rusty. Bone-in rib steak more accurate. Duh!

Posted by: Miflin at May 11, 2025 06:24 PM (aA6YN)

170 Wasn’t mad cow disease the excuse (maybe a reasonable precaution for a time) to cut off American beef exports?

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 11, 2025 06:25 PM (cK4Fj)

171 My lovely wife natural son is a butthead. But, she did get calls from all four of her step-sons, whom she has treated as her own for decades.

Boy her first really pisses me off.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 11, 2025 06:25 PM (cYBz/)

172 25 Lunch was Panisa Thai (if fellow NOVA folks have not gone, you are missing out).

Posted by: Nova Local at May 11, 2025 04:30 PM (tOcjL)

That was one of our favorites! Sisters Thai is good too, but not as accommodating with food allergies. Husband brought me breakfast in bed, and is making burgers for dinner tonight because it's easy and everyone likes them. We are recuperating from really bad barbeque (Friday) from a local place run by women who can't cook - it's in the neighborhood so we thought we'd try it. Just awful, and made us sick.

Posted by: moki at May 11, 2025 06:26 PM (wLjpr)

173 Diogenes, perhaps a stick to burn with the after-dinner bourbon?
Posted by: rhomboid at May 11, 2025 06:19 PM (1m82a)

Sadly, a no smoking cruise. But after dinner tonight I'm going with a Cohiba Black.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 11, 2025 06:27 PM (W/lyH)

174 Got some enchiladas cooking in the oven right now.

Simple recipe, but tasty and filling.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 11, 2025 06:29 PM (GlyvH)

175 Do you really think it is. I don't know about Canada's legal principles.
Posted by: coyne at May 11, 2025 06:24 PM (/N6b1)

No, there is some black-letter law around it, courtesy Quebec.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 11, 2025 06:30 PM (0zCeC)

176 The corn around here is for the chickens.

Posted by: Accomack at May 11, 2025 06:30 PM (JY+81)

177 Wasn’t mad cow disease the excuse (maybe a reasonable precaution for a time) to cut off American beef exports?
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 11, 2025 06:25 PM (cK4Fj)

FARMER: Had to put the cow down last week.
NEIGHBOR: Oh? Mad Cow?
FARMER: Well, it wasn't any too pleased.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 11, 2025 06:30 PM (W/lyH)

178 A no smoking cruise…

What, you can’t even partake out on your balcony (assuming you have one)? Do they allow reefers (just checking for hypocrisy)?

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 11, 2025 06:31 PM (cK4Fj)

179 Could a Canadian province basically defect and join the United States. Is that even possible under Canadian law? What would that process look like?

Posted by: coyne at May 11, 2025 06:31 PM (/N6b1)

180 The cattle industry is going to take a big jump with the UK going to start importing our beef.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 11, 2025 06:20 PM (NVNRw)

Beef prices around here already at multi year highs. We are going to buy three steers this fall from a neighbor. Buy at about 550#. Sell or slaughter a year later at about 1100#. Usually we make enough on selling two to buy three more and put one in the freezer.

Posted by: Pete Bog at May 11, 2025 06:32 PM (r6yYV)

181 I imagine Crystal Thai (on 50) is long gone? Was outstanding back in the day.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 11, 2025 06:32 PM (1m82a)

182 rhomboid:
Sorry...mistook your comment for the dinner cruise yesterday. See my 173. Indeed...a stick to burn. And I may expand the bourbon to a glass or two of Port.
(Santa made a late delivery)

Posted by: Diogenes at May 11, 2025 06:33 PM (W/lyH)

183 Diogenes, sounds good. About to head to the porch with a book and some fancy coffee and a Patel Number 6.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 11, 2025 06:33 PM (1m82a)

184 Wasn’t mad cow disease the excuse (maybe a reasonable precaution for a time) to cut off American beef exports?
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 11, 2025 06:25 PM (cK4Fj)

Mad cow, hormones and the EU trying to protect their farmers.

Posted by: Pete Bog at May 11, 2025 06:34 PM (r6yYV)

185 A no smoking cruise…

What, you can’t even partake out on your balcony (assuming you have one)? Do they allow reefers (just checking for hypocrisy)?
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 11, 2025 06:31 PM (cK4Fj)
***

This was a three hour cruise on an old Paddle Boat up and down the Columbia River. It was actually fun.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 11, 2025 06:34 PM (W/lyH)

186 Probably because I burn almost exclusively in the afternoon, rarely pair booze with a cigar. Almost always coffee (press, Vietnamese, Turkish - as anyone who has seen the pics from past cigar reviews might have noticed). Apple cider sometimes. Have port and cognac and various sipping rums and some high-end Japanese whisky, but those get enjoyed solo. If I ever have a cigar-friendly friend over for a nice dinner, now in the warmer months, will definitely try to pair something up.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 11, 2025 06:36 PM (1m82a)

187 Diogenes, sounds good. About to head to the porch with a book and some fancy coffee and a Patel Number 6.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 11, 2025 06:33 PM (1m82a)

Nice choice! The #6 has a nice balance. Enjoy!

Posted by: Diogenes at May 11, 2025 06:36 PM (W/lyH)

188 "a three hour cruise"

The weather started getting rough, the tiny ship was tossed ....

Posted by: rhomboid at May 11, 2025 06:36 PM (1m82a)

189 This was a three hour cruise on an old Paddle Boat up and down the Columbia River. It was actually fun.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 11, 2025 06:34 PM (W/lyH)
Was it seven passengers?

Posted by: Eromero at May 11, 2025 06:36 PM (LHPAg)

190 Could a Canadian province basically defect and join the United States. Is that even possible under Canadian law? What would that process look like?
Posted by: coyne at May 11, 2025 06:31 PM (/N6b1)

Alberta holds a secession referendum, and the secession questions wins a good majority. Province enters into negotiations with Ottawa, with the fallback position being a unilateral declaration of independence. Federal government attempts to retain Alberta by force, Alberta appeals to USA for relief under the Monroe Doctrine?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 11, 2025 06:37 PM (0zCeC)

191 Oh and of course will be monitoring the Gun Thread on the phone.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 11, 2025 06:37 PM (1m82a)

192 Pete Bog, if you ever get a chance to purchase a milk/ beef cross don't hesitate to give it a try. My feed man only feeds out jersey steers for his meat.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 11, 2025 06:38 PM (NVNRw)

193 AOP don't think Monroe Doctrine is a good fit for this situation. In any case, if such a scenario does play out, AB damn sure better get to the resolution while a certain crass New Yorker with funny hair is in the Oval. Odds of help would not be better with any likely successor.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 11, 2025 06:39 PM (1m82a)

194 US Federals supporting the right of a province to secede. As a native Southerner, I’m enjoying the irony.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 11, 2025 06:39 PM (cK4Fj)

195 AB damn sure better get to the resolution while a certain crass New Yorker with funny hair is in the Oval. Odds of help would not be better with any likely successor.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 11, 2025 06:39 PM (1m82a)

Well, I think Vance would be trustworthy. Certainly no Democrat. There is a lot of anger in Alberta, and Saskatchewan.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 11, 2025 06:41 PM (0zCeC)

196 Distressing/unsurprising to hear Traeger quality on the decline. Probably will get a small smoker of some kind, wood-fired, when I get around to it. Grill (from BBQ Galore) is going strong after 15 years (have replaced artificial briquets and their trays, and flame bars, once and twice respectively). And the thing's been used a LOT.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 11, 2025 06:41 PM (1m82a)

197 This was a three hour cruise on an old Paddle Boat up and down the Columbia River. It was actually fun.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 11, 2025 06:34 PM (W/lyH)

Do you now or have you ever called your wife “Lovie”?

Posted by: Pete Bog at May 11, 2025 06:41 PM (r6yYV)

198 Alberta appeals to USA for relief under the Monroe Doctrine?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 11, 2025 06:37 PM (0zCeC)

And then Trump steps in with overwhelming military force, lol.

Posted by: coyne at May 11, 2025 06:42 PM (/N6b1)

199 194 US Federals supporting the right of a province to secede. As a native Southerner, I’m enjoying the irony.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 11, 2025 06:39 PM (cK4Fj)
Beat me to it.

Posted by: Eromero at May 11, 2025 06:42 PM (LHPAg)

200 200

Posted by: Eromero at May 11, 2025 06:43 PM (LHPAg)

201 Ben Had,

A couple of folks around here are crossing Angus with Wagyu. American Wagyu they call it. It is pretty tasty but matures more slowly and not quite as much meat. We may try that.

Posted by: Pete Bog at May 11, 2025 06:44 PM (r6yYV)

202 Tje article said all they would need to do is vote on leaving the People's Republic of Canada

Posted by: Skip at May 11, 2025 06:46 PM (ypFCm)

203 US Federals supporting the right of a province to secede. As a native Southerner, I’m enjoying the irony.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 11, 2025 06:39 PM (cK4Fj)
Beat me to it.
Posted by: Eromero at May 11, 2025 06:42 PM (LHPAg)

The Monroe Doctrine rationale is that Canada's Feds are in thrall to the WEF, which is a European Imperialist conspiracy.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 11, 2025 06:46 PM (0zCeC)

204 Good evening friends! I wanted real ramen for Mother’s Day and am waiting for it now. Yay!

Posted by: Piper at May 11, 2025 06:47 PM (p4NUW)

205 For some reason both grocery store chicken and pork products are much better in the South. More variety of pork cuts, too. Belly and ham hocks are everyday fare. April / May strawberries are far better than the North's in June.

Beef can be iffy -- really depend on Costco there, and fresh farm stand corn is a disappointment, because of the summer heat, it is typically refridgorated.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 11, 2025 06:48 PM (wBaIH)

206 This was a three hour cruise on an old Paddle Boat up and down the Columbia River. It was actually fun.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 11, 2025 06:34 PM (W/lyH)

Do you now or have you ever called your wife “Lovie”?
Posted by: Pete Bog at May 11, 2025 06:41 PM (r6yYV)

No.
And she never calls me Thurston. More like Rat Bastard...but then I get hard of hearing at times.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 11, 2025 06:48 PM (W/lyH)

207 Not a chance for AB or SK unless DC and PR join also.
Nothing happens that does not benefit the Democrats.

Posted by: Accomack at May 11, 2025 06:49 PM (RBD82)

208 Black drum is a very tasty fish. Never heard of it until this spring.

Posted by: Accomack at May 11, 2025 06:50 PM (RBD82)

209 Most cattle farmers in the county who raise cattle, raise Angus, but I’ve seen some Indian cattle too. Probably because it’s so hot and steamy here in the summer. What would a cross of those two taste like? The Indian side might make it a divine dish!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 11, 2025 06:52 PM (cK4Fj)

210 Not a chance for AB or SK unless DC and PR join also.
Nothing happens that does not benefit the Democrats.
Posted by: Accomack at May 11, 2025 06:49 PM (RBD82)

I, for one, would be satisfied with Territorial status for AB and SK. Territory of Buffalo.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 11, 2025 06:52 PM (0zCeC)

211 Canada's Feds are in thrall to the WEF, which is a European Imperialist conspiracy.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 11, 2025 06:46 PM (0zCeC)

Canada is part of the decadent West. The United States is the last hold out as evidenced by Trumpism. How long the US can hold out remains to be seen.

Posted by: coyne at May 11, 2025 06:52 PM (/N6b1)

212 Disincorporate DC and set PR free (wouldn’t they howl?)!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 11, 2025 06:53 PM (cK4Fj)

213 >>>There was an elephant stew making the rounds of community cookbooks in the sixties and seventies (and probably earlier) for elephant stew.

1 elephant (medium size)
salt and pepper
brown gravy to cover
2 rabbits (optional

i submitted this recipe for the aos cookbook but for some reason it wasn’t picked.

Posted by: cherries are the best at May 11, 2025 06:55 PM (TeOtI)

214 Nemo, are you speaking of Indian cattle to mean Brahman or as we call the breymers.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 11, 2025 06:56 PM (NVNRw)

215 The Indian side might make it a divine dish!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 11, 2025 06:52 PM (cK4Fj)

That’s the one with 8 legs?

Posted by: Pete Bog at May 11, 2025 06:57 PM (r6yYV)

216 Brazilian cattle are crosses with zebu's. Perhaps that accounts for the flavor difference.

Posted by: Accomack at May 11, 2025 06:57 PM (RBD82)

217 i submitted this recipe for the aos cookbook but for some reason it wasn’t picked.
Posted by: cherries are the best at May 11, 2025 06:55 PM (TeOtI)
----
bluebell can be mean.

Posted by: Weasel at May 11, 2025 06:58 PM (lG3Q4)

218 Nelore?

Posted by: Accomack at May 11, 2025 06:58 PM (RBD82)

219 >>> 201 Ben Had,

A couple of folks around here are crossing Angus with Wagyu. American Wagyu they call it. It is pretty tasty but matures more slowly and not quite as much meat. We may try that.
Posted by: Pete Bog at May 11, 2025 06:44 PM (r6yYV)

I've been thinking about maybe getting a Waygu straw for a Longhorn cow, since Longhorns are supposed to be great for heat tolerance and parasite resistance, and very "beefy" flavor, but *lean*. I don't want *lean* beef.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 11, 2025 07:00 PM (Vqx30)

220 ..... and NOOD!

*pew pew pew*

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 11, 2025 07:00 PM (Vqx30)

221 JUST IN: Secretary Brooke Rollins Announces IMMEDIATE SUSPENSION of Cattle, Horse, and Bison Imports at Southern Border Over “New World Screwworm” Threat
===

Think of it as Bonus Protein

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 11, 2025 07:01 PM (/lPRQ)

222 Trump senses that Canada is weak. I think that is what motivates his bombastic rhetoric. He has a basic contempt for the decadence he sees in them.

Posted by: coyne at May 11, 2025 07:02 PM (/N6b1)

223 Helena Handbasket, don't do it. We will talk about this.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 11, 2025 07:02 PM (NVNRw)

224 >>> 223 Helena Handbasket, don't do it. We will talk about this.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 11, 2025 07:02 PM (NVNRw)

No bueno? Phooey. Well, I will look forward to talking more about Big (Four-Legged) Protein.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 11, 2025 07:04 PM (Vqx30)

225 Sounds like the restaurant that claimed it could supply a steak of any animal. Customer comes in and wants an elephant steak. The maitre d’ comes over and explains that they only have one elephant, and would rather not slaughter him for just one customer. He suggests the customer try gnu instead. “Ok,” says the customer, “I’ll try that!”. So the waiter takes his order back to the kitchen, and a time later comes back with a succulent steak, cooked to perfection. The customer sets to eating with gusto, and enjoys it immensely. When he is finished, he calls the maitre d’ over and says “That was great, I thoroughly enjoyed it, but come on, admit it: that wasn’t gnu, was it?”
“Well,” said the maitre d’, “you have to admit, it was just as good as gnu!”

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 11, 2025 07:08 PM (cK4Fj)

226 (groan)

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at May 11, 2025 07:19 PM (/HDaX)

227 One year for reasons lost to memory I had a bunch of mid-size green tomatoes from the yard, made my own relish, was fantastic.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 11, 2025 06:14

My Grandma made green tomato relish that was of family legend. Not to my taste, but my Dad loved it.

Instead of Italian Nonnas here we had Midwestern Farmwives who produced family Sunday dinners. Sometimes pot roast was served and green tomato relish applied with...relish!

Posted by: Farmer, with his own historical take at May 11, 2025 07:33 PM (55Qr6)

228 Crispy chicken skin in a braise is a bear unless you have a flame thrower for a broiler.
Loosen the skin, salt, in a frig over night or from the AM uncovered. Pan sear, remove, add just enough cooked liquid that won't cover the chicken, then replace and oven bake.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 11, 2025 07:41 PM (mlg/3)

229 Nic Update

Posted by: ShainS -- Sovereignty Trumps Journalism (#OrangeHorseBad)! at May 11, 2025 10:24 PM (fvu0p)

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