Nope! You Don't Hate The Media Enough.

U.S. payroll growth totals 177,000 in April, defying expectations

Job growth was stronger than expected in April despite worries over the impact of President Donald Trump's blanket tariffs against U.S. trading partners.
Nonfarm payrolls increased a seasonally adjusted 177,000 for the month, slightly below the downwardly revised 185,000 in March but above the Dow Jones estimate for 133,000, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported Friday. [Bolding mine]

Do you want direct evidence of the media's hatred of President Trump and their manipulation of their reporting to demonize him?

There it is!

The administration is not enacting "blanket tariffs." The news is filled with their constant offers to negotiate, their willingness to change tariffs based on actual data, and their obvious recognition that tariffs are both an economic and geopolitical tool.

"Blanket tariffs" is simply wrong, and an obvious attempt to reduce the efforts of the administration to simplistic, jingoistic, and rigid.

And there is more! Think back to the years of Glorious Leader Biden...how often did the media cite downward revisions in data? I can't recall a single report! They simply glossed over the constant revisions, because they were in the bag for the administration.

Every time the media vomits up this sort of manipulative nonsense, remind yourself that it is bought and paid for by the Democrat/Progressive apparatus. The media are whores, and cheap ones at that.

Posted by: CBD at 12:15 PM

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Posted by: RUReadingthis at May 02, 2025 12:16 PM (aQ25I)

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Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at May 02, 2025 12:18 PM (/HDaX)

3 I nooded.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at May 02, 2025 12:18 PM (/HDaX)

4 Job growth was stronger than expected in April despite worries over the impact of President Donald Trump's blanket tariffs against U.S. trading partners.

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Do businesses have these worries if they continue to hire?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 12:19 PM (GBKbO)

5 What is one reason people don't trust journalists? They call themselves journalists instead of reporters. They are supposed to report. See also, educators instead of teachers.

Posted by: huerfano at May 02, 2025 12:20 PM (n2swS)

6 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 02, 2025 12:20 PM (Zz0t1)

7 And there is more! Think back to the years of Glorious Leader Biden...how often did the media cite downward revisions in data? I can't recall a single report! They simply glossed over the constant revisions, because they were in the bag for the administration.

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I remember the media's caterwauling about Biden refusing to lower any of the tariffs that Trump put on China but also when he raised even more tariffs on China.

Wait...no, I don't remember that.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 12:20 PM (GBKbO)

8 Job growth was stronger than expected in April despite worries over the impact of President Donald Trump�s blanket tariffs against U.S. trading partners.

Like he's said, Trump could cure cancer and the media would do everything it could to make cancer great again.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 02, 2025 12:21 PM (Zz0t1)

9 They are whores. But not cheap ones.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at May 02, 2025 12:21 PM (ZmEVT)

10 Bad economic news under democrats is always "unexpected". Good economic news under Republicans is also "unexpected". If you sense that the expectations of the news media are screwy you win a prize.

Posted by: Ace is at the bar gettin tipsy at May 02, 2025 12:21 PM (o3121)

11 The difference between a reporter and a journalist is ego.

Posted by: davidt at May 02, 2025 12:21 PM (i0F8b)

12 And now we know the Democrats are paying for this propaganda using taxpayer funds.

Posted by: Rando Calrissian at May 02, 2025 12:21 PM (FYKir)

13 11 The difference between a reporter and a journalist is ego.
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Correction - honesty.

Posted by: Pudinhead at May 02, 2025 12:22 PM (pZ64F)

14 Is Trump enacting quilt tariffs?

Posted by: Little old ladies at May 02, 2025 12:22 PM (l3YAf)

15 The media doesn't understand the difference between free speech and free press.

They're committing free speech, sure, but they're not press........press is dead.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 02, 2025 12:22 PM (Zz0t1)

16 Like he's said, Trump could cure cancer and the media would do everything it could to make cancer great again.
Posted by: Sponge

Can't happen. Joe Biden cured cancer.

Posted by: Bulg at May 02, 2025 12:22 PM (77rzZ)

17 today's Econ news was good and that's with the bureaucracy still trying to put a thumb on the scale

there was a massive untapped private sector being tyrannized by Obama and Obama II and Obama III

finally taking a deep, free breath

Posted by: Black Orchid at May 02, 2025 12:23 PM (Pv3Rg)

18 Reducing regulations creates jobs.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 02, 2025 12:23 PM (t0Rmr)

19 ‘ Nope! You Don't Hate The Media Enough.’

Man! Are you sure? I hate them so much it’s giving me a headache.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 02, 2025 12:23 PM (jbnUc)

20 Journalism: For college students who can't swing the math required for an education BA.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Look up the definition of Nose Ring Theory at May 02, 2025 12:23 PM (Ji8U7)

21
Can't happen. Joe Biden cured cancer.
Posted by: Bulg at May 02, 2025 12:22 PM (77rzZ)

Of the anus.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 02, 2025 12:23 PM (Zz0t1)

22 Can't happen. Joe Biden cured cancer.

Twice.

According to him

Posted by: 18-1 at May 02, 2025 12:24 PM (t0Rmr)

23 17 today's Econ news was good and that's with the bureaucracy still trying to put a thumb on the scale

there was a massive untapped private sector being tyrannized by Obama and Obama II and Obama III

finally taking a deep, free breath
Posted by: Black Orchid at May 02, 2025 12:23 PM (Pv3Rg)

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Another underreported thing is that Trump's admin has been slashing regulation at an even greater pace than in his first term.

And they've been explicitly citing Loper v Raimondo, the SCOTUS case that overturned Chevron, in their reasoning.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 12:24 PM (GBKbO)

24 I respect drug dealers more than I do reporters. They are more honest about their jobs.

Posted by: NR Pax at May 02, 2025 12:24 PM (lXCUP)

25 Reducing regulations creates jobs.
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"Unexpectedly ".

Posted by: NYT at May 02, 2025 12:24 PM (o3121)

26 Thx CBD. Whether you hate the media or not, one thing that is beyond debate is how stupid the people who make up the media actually are. Tapper, Todd and the others are thinking that no one notices how they covered for Biden being a drooling mess. They claim they were fooled too. They're actually alleging they were too stupid to notice.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 02, 2025 12:24 PM (Er3Q7)

27 Biden swipes Melania's ass......

https://youtu.be/JsJzm7LT6J4?t=79

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 02, 2025 12:25 PM (Zz0t1)

28 I have no qualms nor worries about blanket tariffs. I get all my stuff from Mike Lindell.

Posted by: Geezer Sheets at May 02, 2025 12:25 PM (G5+As)

29 If you're going to write "X despite Y..." aren't you somewhat obligated to explain why Y didn't have the effect you expected? Or is it just because you wanted to mention Y even though it's apparently not relevant at all?

Posted by: Oddbob at May 02, 2025 12:25 PM (/y8xj)

30 Speaking about financial news, my stocks are nearly back to where they were a couple of months ago and all higher then a year ago

So much for "Trumphitler killed the stock market"

Posted by: 18-1 at May 02, 2025 12:25 PM (t0Rmr)

31 18 Reducing regulations creates jobs.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 02, 2025 12:23 PM (t0Rmr)

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"But if you make a regulation that all businesses must dig ditches with spoons around their property, then you'll create so many jobs!"
-paraphrase of reasoning I heard from someone many moons ago, arguing for the ACA

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 12:25 PM (GBKbO)

32 I do appreciate you COBs that wade into the media mud wallows and dissect the absolute bullshit they disgorge. I've avoided them like the plague since 9/11 when it became evident they were as unAmerican as humanly possible.

Posted by: Wingnutt at May 02, 2025 12:25 PM (EfFOe)

33 *adjusts beret*

*lights Gauloise*

*peevishly orders a tiny cup of coffee at a sidewalk bistro*

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at May 02, 2025 12:25 PM (6YdsJ)

34 Reducing regulations creates jobs.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 02, 2025 12:23 PM (t0Rmr)

Only among the unwashed masses. It destroys jobs among the enlightened, college-educated government worker class.

Posted by: Federal Cow Fart Regulator, PhD at May 02, 2025 12:26 PM (l3YAf)

35 30 Speaking about financial news, my stocks are nearly back to where they were a couple of months ago and all higher then a year ago

So much for "Trumphitler killed the stock market"
Posted by: 18-1 at May 02, 2025 12:25 PM (t0Rmr)

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We've gone from the stock market is the economy to the stock market isn't the economy to the stock market is the economy and back to the stock market isn't the economy so much over the last 4 months.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 12:26 PM (GBKbO)

36 Trump's smallpox blanket tariffs!

Posted by: E Warren at May 02, 2025 12:26 PM (i0F8b)

37 I have no qualms nor worries about blanket tariffs. I get all my stuff from Mike Lindell.
Posted by: Geezer Sheets at May 02, 2025 12:25 PM (G5+As)

I bite pillows.

Posted by: David Hogg at May 02, 2025 12:26 PM (Zz0t1)

38 We've gone from the stock market is the economy to the stock market isn't the economy to the stock market is the economy and back to the stock market isn't the economy so much over the last 4 months.

-

I've been enjoying watching them try to figure out how to report that we're in a recession now that they changed the rules regarding recessions.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Look up the definition of Nose Ring Theory at May 02, 2025 12:27 PM (Ji8U7)

39
We've gone from the stock market is the economy to the stock market isn't the economy to the stock market is the economy and back to the stock market isn't the economy so much over the last 4 months.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 12:26 PM (GBKbO)

MY BUTT'S BEEN WIPED!

Posted by: Joe Biden at May 02, 2025 12:27 PM (Zz0t1)

40 claim they were fooled too. They're actually alleging they were too stupid to notice
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You can't expect us to admit we were lying. Yet. Eventually we will admit it. But will explain how it was a good thing that we lied. It was good. Yes. It. Was.

Posted by: The media at May 02, 2025 12:27 PM (o3121)

41 Biden swipes Melania's ass......
Posted by: Sponge

The gender-swapped story of Nurse and Sponge.

Posted by: Bulg at May 02, 2025 12:28 PM (77rzZ)

42 And not the good kind of chores, either.

Although they are also that.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 02, 2025 12:28 PM (/NTLN)

43 Like he's said, Trump could cure cancer and the media would do everything it could to make cancer great again.
Posted by: Sponge

Can't happen. Joe Biden cured cancer.
Posted by: Bulg at May 02, 2025 12:22 PM

Twice.

Posted by: toby928 at May 02, 2025 12:28 PM (jc0TO)

44 When was the last time these experts had their expectations met?

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 02, 2025 12:28 PM (KbCG3)

45 29 If you're going to write "X despite Y..." aren't you somewhat obligated to explain why Y didn't have the effect you expected? Or is it just because you wanted to mention Y even though it's apparently not relevant at all?

it's all messaging and psy ops, all the time.

there's a guy I follow on substack called Mark Oshinkie - mostly about corona mania but this applies to every leftist ploy:

https://tinyurl.com/32s7u3du

Posted by: Black Orchid at May 02, 2025 12:28 PM (Pv3Rg)

46 Ruth Buzzy is Morte at 88.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 02, 2025 12:28 PM (/U5Yz)

47 42 No chores are good.

Posted by: Bulg at May 02, 2025 12:28 PM (77rzZ)

48 The media are whores, and cheap ones at that.

Posted by: CBD at 12:15 PM

I really enjoy reading CBD's posts, but I do wish he wouldn't sugarcoat things so much.

Posted by: Doof at May 02, 2025 12:29 PM (vf0Y9)

49 Markets are up for the 9th day in a row.

Worst crash evah.

Posted by: toby928 at May 02, 2025 12:29 PM (jc0TO)

50 The free trade dogma is based on an Adam Smith world where England imports cotton because it cannot grow it and exports textiles because it has textile factories. That scheme does not apply in a situation where jobs are offshored to a hostile foreign power that uses slave labor, currency manipulation, and zero environmental protection.

Remember when the free traders told us giving China most favored nation status would make them more democratic? LOL.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at May 02, 2025 12:29 PM (DIweC)

51
"But if you make a regulation that all businesses must dig ditches with spoons around their property, then you'll create so many jobs!"
-paraphrase of reasoning I heard from someone many moons ago, arguing for the ACA
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 12:25 PM (GBKbO)

We need an alien invastion so glass is broken and we Make Glassmaking Great Again.

Posted by: Paul Krugman at May 02, 2025 12:29 PM (Zz0t1)

52
"But if you make a regulation that all businesses must dig ditches with spoons around their property, then you'll create so many jobs!"

I've actually been thinking about this a bit, since some people argue we need government jobs to handle the supposedly coming problem of destroying all sorts of careers.

And...even if you wanted to go down this path you can't do it with government work. Why? *Most* government work now is designed to reduce the efficiency of private sector work

So you could in theory have the government just hire people to count clouds or dig holes (and then fill them in) but in practice the government always seems to assign its workers to making it so car makers can't make cars or oil drillers can't drill for oil.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 02, 2025 12:29 PM (t0Rmr)

53 It's a toss-up for the dumbest college majors--journalism or education. Honestly, I think the education majors get the "prize."

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at May 02, 2025 12:29 PM (cWffP)

54 Biden swipes Melania's ass......
Posted by: Sponge

The gender-swapped story of Nurse and Sponge.
Posted by: Bulg at May 02, 2025 12:28 PM (77rzZ)

She probably wanted to see how Spongy he was.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 02, 2025 12:29 PM (/NTLN)

55 Think back to the years of Glorious Leader Biden...how often did the media cite downward revisions in data?

And remember, we would have had an official recession in 2022, because we had two consecutive quarters of negative GNP growth, but the media decided that that long-held definition of a recession didn't count when a Democrat was President.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 02, 2025 12:30 PM (xTIDn)

56 I really enjoy reading CBD's posts, but I do wish he wouldn't sugarcoat things so much.
Posted by: Doof

Does he coat them with maple syrup?

Posted by: Bulg at May 02, 2025 12:30 PM (77rzZ)

57 "Every time the media vomits up this sort of manipulative nonsense, remind yourself that it is bought and paid for by the Democrat/Progressive apparatus. The media are whores, and cheap ones at that."

And the Democrat/Progressive apparatus is bought and paid for by ... whom? (rhetorical because it's a long, long list).

Posted by: mrp at May 02, 2025 12:30 PM (rj6Yv)

58 Tangential:

BREAKING: China is now considering how to acquiesce to President Trump's demands regarding limiting fentanyl flow in trade talks - WSJ

https://www.wsj.com/world/china/beijing-weighs-
fentanyl-offer-to-u-s-to-start-trade-talks-287cf233

Translation:

"Trump folds to China as China graciously offers to give Trump something he wants."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 12:30 PM (GBKbO)

59 Journalism majors thank the god they don't believe in for Education majors keeping them off the bottom of the Entering Freshman SAT rankings.

Posted by: toby928 at May 02, 2025 12:31 PM (jc0TO)

60 And these are REAL jobs...not government BS jobs.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 02, 2025 12:31 PM (W/lyH)

61 Journalists journal.

Which brings to mind Nikole Hannah-Jones scribbling away in her little book with a unicorn on the cover and putting smilies on every O and topping every I and J with a little heart.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 02, 2025 12:31 PM (D7oie)

62 Jill Sobule (of I Kissed a Girl and I Want to Be a Supermodel semi-fame) died overnight in a house fire

sad

she was good! and not old! tragic

Ruth Buzzi was ill for a long time

Posted by: Black Orchid at May 02, 2025 12:31 PM (Pv3Rg)

63 MSNBC article's headline: U.S. payroll growth totals 177,000 in April, defying expectations

Defying expectations, huh. Good grief.

If a Democrat was in the White House the headline would be, U.S. payroll growth totals 177,000 in April, EXCEEDING expectations

It is BS like this that made me stop looking at my RSS feeds of the NYT, Guardian, and the like three weeks ago. I have always looked at those to get a read on what the Mainstream Media and Democrats (BIRM) are pushing and broadcasting. But it is now non-stop 100% negative stories about Trump and the Republican House and Senate. I was getting depressed from the non-stop dire predictions. Now, I feel much better about our future.

Posted by: Gref at May 02, 2025 12:31 PM (aBgBM)

64 When was the last time these experts had their expectations met?
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Well it certainly hasnt happened to me since I've been married.

Posted by: Mrs French at May 02, 2025 12:31 PM (o3121)

65 And these are REAL jobs...not government BS jobs.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 02, 2025 12:31 PM (W/lyH)

But how many did he SAVE!!???

Posted by: Bronco Bama at May 02, 2025 12:31 PM (Zz0t1)

66 The media's entire job is to usher in communism or at least the latest version of it where white people and conversatives and every single person who isn't quite communist enough ends up in a mass grave.

And they do it fairly well.

Posted by: ... at May 02, 2025 12:32 PM (QTr+M)

67 26 Thx CBD. Whether you hate the media or not, one thing that is beyond debate is how stupid the people who make up the media actually are. Tapper, Todd and the others are thinking that no one notices how they covered for Biden being a drooling mess. They claim they were fooled too. They're actually alleging they were too stupid to notice.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 02, 2025 12:24 PM (Er3Q7)

Two things are true at the same time:

1) the news readers are very arrogant people who are, at best of or below average IQ.

2) due to their own arrogance, biases, and perceived class status, they think they are smarter than everyone else, so treat us like we're even stupider than them, thus the laughable lies (that no one other than the most low info of the LIVs believe) like "no one noticed Biden was a vegetable! We were bamboozled!"

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 02, 2025 12:32 PM (uCjyK)

68 *pours one out for D-Lamp*

Posted by: A prophet without honor is his own hometown at May 02, 2025 12:32 PM (TbWk/)

69 peevishly orders a tiny cup of coffee at a sidewalk bistro*
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at May 02, 2025 12:25 PM

Just order a bottle of Scotch.

Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at May 02, 2025 12:32 PM (2J/Lj)

70 No. Whores do not care who pays them.

The media is simply Правда, or Neues Deutschland. Mouthpieces for the Left, run by committed Leftists. Nothing more.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 02, 2025 12:32 PM (jqrzj)

71 69 peevishly orders a tiny cup of coffee at a sidewalk bistro*
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at May 02, 2025 12:25 PM

Just order a bottle of Scotch.
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at May 02, 2025 12:32 PM (2J/Lj)

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Bourbon!

We buy American, dammit.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 12:32 PM (GBKbO)

72 50 The free trade dogma is based on an Adam Smith world where England imports cotton because it cannot grow it and exports textiles because it has textile factories. That scheme does not apply in a situation where jobs are offshored to a hostile foreign power that uses slave labor, currency manipulation, and zero environmental protection.

Remember when the free traders told us giving China most favored nation status would make them more democratic? LOL.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at May 02, 2025 12:29 PM (DIweC)

———

Also the USA can be pretty self sufficient if we want to be. There is about $3 trillion of imports, I suspect only a couple hundred billion is really necessary.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 02, 2025 12:32 PM (kR/iT)

73
I was told by my betters that the economy and markets were in free fall because of Drumpf.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 02, 2025 12:32 PM (7HMgz)

74 And don't forget this number will be "revised upward" in a couple weeks.

Posted by: ... at May 02, 2025 12:32 PM (QTr+M)

75 Ruth Buzzy is Morte at 88.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 02, 2025 12:28 PM

So she and Artie Johnson are in the hereafter?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 02, 2025 12:33 PM (Wnv9h)

76 Breaking: If Trump had a dog he would kick it.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 02, 2025 12:33 PM (/U5Yz)

77 Like he's said, Trump could cure cancer and the media would do everything it could to make cancer great again.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 02, 2025 12:21 PM (Zz0t1)
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Good thing FJB already cured it then.../sarc

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 02, 2025 12:33 PM (7fElN)

78 Well it certainly hasnt happened to me since I've been married.
Posted by: Mrs French at May 02, 2025 12:31 PM (o3121)

Quiet you! I'll have to order another two bulls for Saturday night!
- D French

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 02, 2025 12:33 PM (/NTLN)

79
Bourbon!

We buy American, dammit.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 12:32 PM (GBKbO)

"DON'T ruin my bourbon with ICE. I'm not a bloody American!"

Posted by: Johnathan Quail Higgins at May 02, 2025 12:33 PM (Zz0t1)

80 When I left the house for work this morning, my kitty Snoops was happily snoozing on my blanket tariff. He really didn't seem to mind.

Posted by: Cheri at May 02, 2025 12:33 PM (oiNtH)

81 Just order a bottle of Scotch.
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at May 02, 2025 12:32 PM (2J/Lj)
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That's for this evening.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at May 02, 2025 12:33 PM (6YdsJ)

82 Jill Sobule (of I Kissed a Girl and I Want to Be a Supermodel semi-fame) died overnight in a house fire

As a point to consider, when I Kissed a Girl came out in 1995 it was considered slightly shocking - this is only a few years about Melissa Etheridge released "Yes I Am" and then said the title was not about her being a lesbian too...

Amazing how the past is a different country.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 02, 2025 12:34 PM (t0Rmr)

83 Breaking: If Trump had a dog he would kick it.
Posted by: Maj. Healey

I have a better idea.
-- Kristi Noem

Posted by: Bulg at May 02, 2025 12:34 PM (77rzZ)

84 75 Ruth Buzzy is Morte at 88.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 02, 2025 12:28 PM

So she and Artie Johnson are in the hereafter?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState

Yes, both are morte. Had to look that up.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 02, 2025 12:34 PM (/U5Yz)

85 ---
Good thing FJB already cured it then.../sarc
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 02, 2025 12:33 PM (7fElN)

First Lady begs to differ.......

Posted by: Johnathan Quail Higgins at May 02, 2025 12:34 PM (Zz0t1)

86 Job growth was stronger than expected in April despite worries over the impact of President Donald Trump's blanket tariffs against U.S. trading partners.

a stiff tariff on smallpox blankets?

Posted by: anachronda at May 02, 2025 12:34 PM (sGtp+)

87 Shyte.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 02, 2025 12:34 PM (Zz0t1)

88 What I find amusing is that there is virtually no differences in class-identity and social political goals between US MSM and Canadian MSM. A truly seamless garment; a gossamer gown of lies, half-truths, and ignorance.

Posted by: mrp at May 02, 2025 12:34 PM (rj6Yv)

89 "Whoops actually it was 220,000! See the correction on page 5,983, paragraph 7 million. Our bad! Did weeeee do thaaaaaat."

Posted by: Democrats and Other Useless Apparatchiks at May 02, 2025 12:34 PM (QTr+M)

90 Can I hate the media enough? Sure I can. Read Kipling's The Wrath of the Awaken Saxon, and go from there.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 02, 2025 12:34 PM (wBaIH)

91 Ruth Buzzy is Morte at 88.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 02, 2025 12:28 PM

So she and Artie Johnson are in the hereafter?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 02, 2025 12:33 PM (Wnv9h)
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Gladys Ormphby and Tyrone F. Hornai, together again on that park bench.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at May 02, 2025 12:35 PM (6YdsJ)

92 70 No. Whores do not care who pays them.

The media is simply Правда, or Neues Deutschland. Mouthpieces for the Left, run by committed Leftists. Nothing more.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 02, 2025 12:32 PM (jqrzj)

With Pravda, they literally had guns to their heads. The America presstitutes do what they do willingly and enthusiastically.

Posted by: Turncoats all at May 02, 2025 12:35 PM (TbWk/)

93 When was the last time these experts had their expectations met?
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Well it certainly hasnt happened to me since I've been married.
Posted by: Mrs French at May 02, 2025 12:31 PM

The Paolo, he makes the "call me" gesture with his hand.

Posted by: Paolo at May 02, 2025 12:35 PM (Wnv9h)

94 due to their own arrogance, biases, and perceived class status, they think they are smarter than everyone else, so treat us like we're even stupider than them, thus the laughable lies (that no one other than the most low info of the LIVs believe) like "no one noticed Biden was a vegetable! We were bamboozled!
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Biden senility controversy??? Never heard of it.

Posted by: Charlie Newshead at May 02, 2025 12:35 PM (o3121)

95 Gladys Ormphby and Tyrone F. Hornai, together again on that park bench.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at May 02, 2025 12:35 PM

*doffs hat respectfully*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 02, 2025 12:36 PM (Wnv9h)

96 zero hedge sez:

if the S&P 500 closes in the green today, that would mark the longest winning streak since Nov 2004

Posted by: Black Orchid at May 02, 2025 12:36 PM (Pv3Rg)

97 94 Biden senility controversy??? Never heard of it.
Posted by: Charlie Newshead at May 02, 2025 12:35 PM (o3121)

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"It was a media failure. Also, it's right wing misinformation to try and pit news organizations against each other. Also, we totally covered it."
-Chuck Todd

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 12:36 PM (GBKbO)

98 72 50 The free trade dogma is based on an Adam Smith world where England imports cotton because it cannot grow it and exports textiles because it has textile factories. That scheme does not apply in a situation where jobs are offshored to a hostile foreign power that uses slave labor, currency manipulation, and zero environmental protection.

Remember when the free traders told us giving China most favored nation status would make them more democratic? LOL.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at May 02, 2025 12:29 PM (DIweC)

Yeah. Them and the rest of the world. By the way, MFN CAN be RESCINDED. But then, I suspect this eludes people in DC.

I’d look carefully at the Corn Laws of England. Protectionists and supporters of autarky will find that extremely uncomfortable reading.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 02, 2025 12:36 PM (jqrzj)

99 "Unexpectedly", somehow revisions for the next four years will all be in a positive direction.

Posted by: uniparty, Raping and Mutilating the Children They do not Kill at May 02, 2025 12:36 PM (gxokI)

100 Makes me wonder now, how many in Pravda really did it by force and how many were just vile commie fucktards BIRM?

Posted by: ... at May 02, 2025 12:36 PM (QTr+M)

101 50 The free trade dogma is based on an Adam Smith world where England imports cotton because it cannot grow it and exports textiles because it has textile factories. That scheme does not apply in a situation where jobs are offshored to a hostile foreign power that uses slave labor, currency manipulation, and zero environmental protection.

Remember when the free traders told us giving China most favored nation status would make them more democratic? LOL.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at May 02, 2025 12:29 PM (DIweC)

It's been a while since I read The Wealth of Nations, but I don't remember a chapter on tariffs and trade deficits.

The explanation of why "free trade" works better as an economic system in a country (compared to, I guess, serfdom / hereditary classes) is not wrong.

But monetary policy with fiat currencies / globalization and massive trade deficits / the intersections of politics - spy craft - economic imbalances ... that's all a bit more of the advanced class. Smith was more talking about trading fish baskets for fish spears.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 02, 2025 12:37 PM (uCjyK)

102 IIRC, Ruth Buzzi played a ventriloquist on an episode of Love Boat.

Posted by: Bulg at May 02, 2025 12:37 PM (77rzZ)

103 Breaking: If Trump had a dog he would kick it.
Posted by: Maj. Healey
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I would have preferred that.

Posted by: LBJ's Beagle at May 02, 2025 12:37 PM (XeU6L)

104 The media are whores, and cheap ones at that.
.....

Even cheaper in town.

Posted by: wth at May 02, 2025 12:37 PM (v0R5T)

105 zero hedge sez:

if the S&P 500 closes in the green today, that would mark the longest winning streak since Nov 2004

Posted by: Black Orchid at May 02, 2025 12:37 PM (Pv3Rg)

106 72 50 The free trade dogma is based on an Adam Smith world where England imports cotton because it cannot grow it and exports textiles because it has textile factories. That scheme does not apply in a situation where jobs are offshored to a hostile foreign power that uses slave labor, currency manipulation, and zero environmental protection.

Remember when the free traders told us giving China most favored nation status would make them more democratic? LOL.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo
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Adam Smith would agree with you btw. His interest was that trade should be managed for national security and to increase the wealth and wellbeing of most of a nation's people.

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2025 12:37 PM (ctrM5)

107 As a point to consider, when I Kissed a Girl came out in 1995 it was considered slightly shocking - this is only a few years about Melissa Etheridge released "Yes I Am" and then said the title was not about her being a lesbian too...

Amazing how the past is a different country.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 02, 2025 12:34 PM (t0Rmr)

———

Sophie B Hawkins was pretty open about batting for the other team. But she got a bye because she was a mega hottie.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 02, 2025 12:37 PM (kR/iT)

108 Seeing reports of riots in Chy-nuh due to factory closures. Xi has got real problems, and you love to see it.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 02, 2025 12:37 PM (QZThv)

109 Hey! Ho! The mainstream media has got to go!

Posted by: Dirty Old Hippie Who Loves A Good Chant at May 02, 2025 12:38 PM (R/m4+)

110
I would have preferred that.
Posted by: LBJ's Beagle
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Tell me about it...

Posted by: Fauci's Beagles at May 02, 2025 12:38 PM (XeU6L)

111 It was a media failure. Also, it's right wing misinformation to try and pit news organizations against each other. Also, we totally covered it."
-Chuck Todd
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 12:36 PM (GBKbO

Also it's a lie, Biden was perfectly fine right up until the night of the debate. Also he had a cold at the debate and was "off his game" (remember?).

Posted by: ... at May 02, 2025 12:38 PM (QTr+M)

112 Breaking: If Trump had a dog he would kick it.
Posted by: Maj. Healey
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I would have preferred that.
Posted by: LBJ's Beagle at May 02, 2025 12:37 PM

GFY.

Posted by: Obama's Dog at May 02, 2025 12:38 PM (Wnv9h)

113 106 Adam Smith would agree with you btw. His interest was that trade should be managed for national security and to increase the wealth and wellbeing of most of a nation's people.
Posted by: whig at May 02, 2025 12:37 PM (ctrM5)

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"Also, the East India Trading Company can eat my taint."
-Adam Smith, direct quote

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 12:38 PM (GBKbO)

114 uh.. that bug with the ads caused me to double post! I swear!

wtf

Posted by: Black Orchid at May 02, 2025 12:38 PM (Pv3Rg)

115 Quiet you! I'll have to order another two bulls for Saturday night!
- D French
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 02, 2025 12:33 PM (/NTLN)

So if Mrs. French gets plowed by Joseph Eaglefeather, does that make him a Red Bull?

Posted by: Giving wings and spreading legs at May 02, 2025 12:38 PM (TbWk/)

116 The legacy media has pretty much lost any relevance it once had. There's still a number of outlets that, via the massive reach they've enjoyed, still get to put in print/pixels the proverbial "fake news."

Places like 𝕏 stomp on them pretty quick. Damn near real time.

It's glorious.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 02, 2025 12:38 PM (Q4IgG)

117 108 Seeing reports of riots in Chy-nuh due to factory closures. Xi has got real problems, and you love to see it.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 02, 2025 12:37 PM (QZThv)

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I was told he's days away from invading Taiwan.

And Alaska.

And Bermuda. Bahama. Come on pretty momma.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 12:39 PM (GBKbO)

118 Like he's said, Trump could cure cancer and the media would do everything it could to make cancer great again.
Posted by: Sponge

Can't happen. Joe Biden cured cancer.
Posted by: Bulg
......

Plus he beat Medicare, so we're good.

Posted by: wth at May 02, 2025 12:39 PM (v0R5T)

119 On Joe the Plagiarist:

Heads: the media’s collective heads are so far up his ass they have no objectivity whatsoever.

Tails: the media are incompetent.

Which one?

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 02, 2025 12:39 PM (jqrzj)

120 116 The legacy media has pretty much lost any relevance it once had. There's still a number of outlets that, via the massive reach they've enjoyed, still get to put in print/pixels the proverbial "fake news."

Places like 𝕏 stomp on them pretty quick. Damn near real time.

It's glorious.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 02, 2025 12:38 PM (Q4IgG)

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They still have some power. And it's not insigificant.

But the combined powers of AP, NYT, and ABCNews today are nothing compared to the late 90s.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 12:39 PM (GBKbO)

121 Quiet you! I'll have to order another two bulls for Saturday night!
- D French
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Great more fat bald premature ejaculations just like you. I get that you are imaging yourself in their place but do you have to type cast....

Posted by: Mrs French miffed and unamused at May 02, 2025 12:40 PM (o3121)

122 At WSJ: "A Giant Crack Appears in Tim Cook’s Walled Garden"

He promptly dropped trou and boned hell out of it.

Posted by: Preparing gp For Lazy Loading at May 02, 2025 12:40 PM (7o9l6)

123 Posted by: Black Orchid at May 02, 2025 12:38 PM (Pv3Rg)

You're not even supposed to be able to double post. You can't even duplicate someone *else's* post.

Posted by: ... at May 02, 2025 12:40 PM (QTr+M)

124 The legacy media has pretty much lost any relevance it once had. There's still a number of outlets that, via the massive reach they've enjoyed, still get to put in print/pixels the proverbial "fake news."

I saw a clip of Kimmel talking with Anne Hathaway. I assume I got this because I do occasionally watch clips of Craig Ferguson who IS funny.

And Kimmel looked like a creep leering at Hathaway the whole time while she told the most boring story one could imagine. People watch this crap?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 02, 2025 12:40 PM (t0Rmr)

125 Fair enough.

Then drop the sick pretense of impartiality which accrues protections and benefits that should be rendered thereby ineffective.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 02, 2025 12:40 PM (RIvkX)

126 Also the USA can be pretty self sufficient if we want to be. There is about $3 trillion of imports, I suspect only a couple hundred billion is really necessary.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 02, 2025 12:32 PM (kR/iT)

The US is blessed with ample natural resources, including plenty of farm land.

We are one of the only countries on earth that could be truly self sufficient if we really wanted to. Yes, it would require some sacrifices -- coffee wouldn't be as cheap and plentiful, for example.

We'd probably have to move away from wasting so many resources on things like single use lithium ion batteries, etc.

But totally doable.

That's not true of pretty much anywhere else on the planet. We have a huge competitive advantage here. Which the rest of the world knows, and is part of the reason they justify fucking us over at every opportunity.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 02, 2025 12:40 PM (uCjyK)

127 They still have some power. And it's not insigificant.

But the combined powers of AP, NYT, and ABCNews today are nothing compared to the late 90s.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 12:39 PM (GBKbO)

Which is why they have Google, Apple, Comcast, Viacom, Netflix, etc etc etc

Posted by: ... at May 02, 2025 12:41 PM (QTr+M)

128 You don't hate the media enough: a proof by contradiction

Suppose you did hate the media enough. If that were true, you would not be compelled to launch into a profanity laced tirade at their audacity whenever you hear something new about them. Yet you are compelled to launch into a profanity laced tirade at their audacity whenever you hear something new about them. Therefore, by disjunctive syllogism, you do not hate the media enough.

Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at May 02, 2025 12:41 PM (Guq6Z)

129 Free traders have two planks:

Free flow of capital

AND

Free flow of people

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 02, 2025 12:41 PM (kR/iT)

130 Craig Ferguson is The Rizzler. I wish I had even 1% of that dude's charisma.

Posted by: That lucky Scots bastard at May 02, 2025 12:41 PM (TbWk/)

131 Watch any random Carson clip and cheer yourself up.

Posted by: ... at May 02, 2025 12:42 PM (QTr+M)

132
The administration is not enacting "blanket tariffs"

If'n PDJT were to enact tariffs on those smallpox infested Hudson's Bay blankets at, say, 1000%, I'd not complain.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 02, 2025 12:42 PM (Tv15w)

133 “That scheme does not apply in a situation where jobs are offshored to a hostile foreign power that uses slave labor, currency manipulation, and zero environmental protection.“

Oh yeah, I forgot: currency manipulation, huh? WE manipulate our currency. In fact, name one country who doesn’t.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 02, 2025 12:42 PM (jqrzj)

134 26 Thx CBD. Whether you hate the media or not, one thing that is beyond debate is how stupid the people who make up the media actually are. Tapper, Todd and the others are thinking that no one notices how they covered for Biden being a drooling mess. They claim they were fooled too. They're actually alleging they were too stupid to notice.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 02, 2025 12:24 PM (Er3Q7)

+++++

This really slays me. They are admitting that they have absolutely no observational skills at all. Zero. When tens of millions of Americans and millions more from around the world could see, from day one, that Biden was obviously collapsing both verbally and physically, they, the media, could not discern any of this. Yet, they still maintain that they are the premium eyewitnesses to current events and will report to us. The best.

Posted by: washrivergal at May 02, 2025 12:42 PM (2hDiL)

135 Seriously TJM, I just assume everything reported by the MSM is peppered with lies and half truths.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 02, 2025 12:42 PM (TI9RQ)

136 Craig Ferguson is The Rizzler. I wish I had even 1% of that dude's charisma.

One thing I've noticed with him - he'll occasionally have some starlet on that looks really uncomfortable and after a few minutes of conversation you can see her relax and get into it.

He definitely gets flirty with most of them, but I've seen him play it completely cool too when the starlet in question doesn't want to go there.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 02, 2025 12:43 PM (t0Rmr)

137 I was told he's days away from invading Taiwan.

And Alaska.

And Bermuda. Bahama. Come on pretty momma.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 12:39 PM (GBKbO)

Don't worry, I'm sure we'll find another war to be involved with soon enough.

Speaking of that, how are the mullahs in Iran doing these days? I have to imagine they're sitting around all shifty eyed waiting for the next thing to blow up.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 02, 2025 12:43 PM (uCjyK)

138 It's been a while since I read The Wealth of Nations, but I don't remember a chapter on tariffs and trade deficits.

The explanation of why "free trade" works better as an economic system in a country (compared to, I guess, serfdom / hereditary classes) is not wrong.

But monetary policy with fiat currencies / globalization and massive trade deficits / the intersections of politics - spy craft - economic imbalances ... that's all a bit more of the advanced class. Smith was more talking about trading fish baskets for fish spears.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

Smith was proposing a lot of things in his book which is more a series of anecdotes than a formal framework. His Theory of Moral Sentiments is key to understanding how Smith viewed the summation of individuals behaving in their own interest (the Invisible Hand) can harmoniously coexist in a flourishing society.

And such is true on the international stage. Nations should and do act in their own self interest regarding trade but enlightened self interest would indicate a nation as a whole CAN become wealthier via trade.

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2025 12:43 PM (ctrM5)

139 Jill Sobule (of I Kissed a Girl and I Want to Be a Supermodel semi-fame) died overnight in a house fire

As a point to consider, when I Kissed a Girl came out in 1995 it was considered slightly shocking - this is only a few years about Melissa Etheridge released "Yes I Am" and then said the title was not about her being a lesbian too...

Amazing how the past is a different country.
Posted by: 18-1
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Assuming no drugs or alcohol, I have a hypothesis about this that is tied to all of the bizarre videos of young (mostly diverse) women in their homes with the smoke detectors constantly chirping in the background.

I bet she had smoke detectors but her hearing was shot from exposure to extremely loud music for years and years and she couldn't hear those tones any longer.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Look up the definition of Nose Ring Theory at May 02, 2025 12:43 PM (Ji8U7)

140 I was told he's days away from invading Taiwan.
And Alaska.
And Bermuda. Bahama. Come on pretty momma.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 12:39 PM (GBKbO)

1970s....OPEC was gonna rule the world.

1980s...The Japs were gonna own everything.

1990s...Tech Companies and Bill Gates were going to rule the world.

2000s....The Chinese are going to own everything and everyone.

Posted by: Experts Wrong Again at May 02, 2025 12:43 PM (R/m4+)

141 Adam Smith would agree with you btw. His interest was that trade should be managed for national security and to increase the wealth and wellbeing of most of a nation's people.
Posted by: whig at May 02, 2025 12:37 PM (ctrM5)

American colonists took Smith's lessons to heart by rejecting the Mother Country's mercantilist trade policies and making "Free Trade Makes Free Men" their battle cry.

Posted by: mrp at May 02, 2025 12:43 PM (rj6Yv)

142 Remember when the free traders told us giving China most favored nation status would make them more democratic? LOL.
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We're gonna win the hearts and minds of the Iraqi by freeing them from Saddam!
Naturally, they'll choose to become a Jeffersonian democracy.
/s/ Republicans and Democrat War Profiteers.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 02, 2025 12:44 PM (NwfFc)

143
hahaha, let's conduct a little AoS Experiment...

Quick, Gentlemen, what's the First Word that comes into your mind when you see this word:

Ample...

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 12:44 PM (vc0YZ)

144 Remember : A lot of Degenerate Kink Gear is made in China.

The Tariffs will keep about 90% of it from getting here.

Posted by: XTC at May 02, 2025 12:44 PM (UnA8+)

145 Breaking: If Trump had a dog he would kick it.

Posted by: Maj. Healey

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"Better than a forced shower and rape."

-- Commander

Posted by: ShainS at May 02, 2025 12:45 PM (cXwBh)

146 140 2000s....The Chinese are going to own everything and everyone.
Posted by: Experts Wrong Again at May 02, 2025 12:43 PM (R/m4+)

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How does a country with a replacement rate of 1.2, it's northwestern section only at .7, become a hegemon to rule the world?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 12:45 PM (GBKbO)

147
Is Trump enacting quilt tariffs?
Posted by: Little old ladies

Tariffs on Afghan afghans.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 02, 2025 12:45 PM (63Dwl)

148
Quick, Gentlemen, what's the First Word that comes into your mind when you see this word:

Ample...

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 12:44 PM (vc0YZ)

https://is.gd/80f9ab

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 02, 2025 12:45 PM (Zz0t1)

149 @143

BEWBS!

Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 02, 2025 12:45 PM (TI9RQ)

150 Carson and Rodney Dangerfield are the pinnacle of the medium.

Carson was the perfect straight man and Dangerfield was on fire...

Posted by: 18-1 at May 02, 2025 12:45 PM (t0Rmr)

151 We're gonna win the hearts and minds of the Iraqi by freeing them from Saddam!
Naturally, they'll choose to become a Jeffersonian democracy.
/s/ Republicans and Democrat War Profiteers.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 02, 2025 12:44 PM (NwfFc)

They're going to throw down their arms and welcome us as liberators, in fact.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 02, 2025 12:45 PM (uCjyK)

152 Every time the media vomits up this sort of manipulative nonsense
_______________

I don't think they vomited it up. I think their product comes out of the other end of the GI tract.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 12:45 PM (YqDXo)

153 143 Voltle.

Posted by: Preparing gp For Lazy Loading at May 02, 2025 12:46 PM (7o9l6)

154 Remember : A lot of Degenerate Kink Gear is made in China.

We cannot fall behind in the critical national security area of pocket rocket parity.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 02, 2025 12:46 PM (t0Rmr)

155 He definitely gets flirty with most of them, but I've seen him play it completely cool too when the starlet in question doesn't want to go there.
Posted by: 18-1
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Even with established actors, Ferguson can play an interviewer for laughs or be someone producing an informative exchange.

I rate him actually over Johnny Carson in his humanity. Carson sometimes had a very hard edge to his remarks showing the frosty soul underneath that smiling visage that he was. Ferguson is simply a likable guy.

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2025 12:46 PM (ctrM5)

156 2000s....The Chinese are going to own everything and everyone.

Posted by: Experts Wrong Again at May 02, 2025 12:43 PM (R/m4+)

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"We believed you in the 1980s when you said ....The Japanese are going to own everything and everyone."

-- MOAR Experts

Posted by: ShainS at May 02, 2025 12:46 PM (cXwBh)

157 And they're too stupid to make their point anyway. You can see this in Buck's post before this one, too, about the EU and China.

Why is it bad for the EU but not for the US to have China dumping the fruits of its subsidized overproduction? There *is* an answer beyond "the NYT hates America." It isn't a *good* answer, but there is an argument for the position.

One could argue that China is geared to massive production in large part because of her integration with the American economy. With the new American trade policy, China has too much capacity and markets for their goods will depress, which means that remaining markets will get flooded with more cheaper goods as China tries to work out its unexpected surpluses.

Is that what the NYT is arguing? I dunno. Either way, their conclusion is wrong. But that *would* at least be a more defensible argument than the non-argument they made. But if that *was* the intent behind the article, it's irrelevant - they didn't articulate it. They couldn't if they wanted to do. They're not just malevolent, they're incompetent. All they can do is lie and lie poorly.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2025 12:46 PM (WkNQM)

158
2000s....The Chinese are going to own everything and everyone.
Posted by: Experts Wrong Again at May 02, 2025 12:43 PM (R/m4+)

They don't need to own everything. Just a few select politicians. It makes it easier when the pol's children are actively peddling influence.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at May 02, 2025 12:46 PM (pIfcn)

159 Quick, Gentlemen, what's the First Word that comes into your mind when you see this word:

Ample...

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 12:44 PM (vc0YZ)
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Beethoven

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at May 02, 2025 12:46 PM (6YdsJ)

160 129 Free traders have two planks:

Free flow of capital

AND

Free flow of people

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 02, 2025 12:41 PM (kR/iT)

Ah, but even Milton Friedman believed that free flows of people are extremely bad for countries with generous welfare systems, such as the U.S.

Protectionists love big, powerful government to make sure things work a certain way, and if it impoverishes the country, well, so be it.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 02, 2025 12:46 PM (jqrzj)

161 Interesting to watch riots in China. If a lot of men are made jobless they'll have nothing to do but revolt. The "one child " policy caused a massive kill off of female babies leading to a huge surplus of unmarried men. Might as well overthrow the government, per Eddie Murphy "lack of pussy makes a man brave"

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 02, 2025 12:47 PM (Er3Q7)

162 Quick, Gentlemen, what's the First Word that comes into your mind when you see this word:

Ample...

Posted by: Soothsayer

"Bosom," of course.

Posted by: Bulg at May 02, 2025 12:47 PM (77rzZ)

163 What is one reason people don't trust journalists? They call themselves journalists instead of reporters. They are supposed to report. See also, educators instead of teachers.

Posted by: huerfano at May 02, 2025 12:20 PM (n2swS)
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This.

Posted by: Hot Beverage Engineers at May 02, 2025 12:47 PM (YqDXo)

164
Just for kicks go to a library and read a random newspaper story (usually on microfilm) from the 1940's.

Even if it's a partisan publication, you will get a who why what where and background information you completely miss today.

Activists with button-pushing adjectives replaced journalists a long time ago.

Posted by: Auspex at May 02, 2025 12:47 PM (j4U/Z)

165
This.
Posted by: Hot Beverage Engineers at May 02, 2025 12:47 PM (YqDXo)

*fistbump*

Posted by: Custodial Engineers at May 02, 2025 12:48 PM (Zz0t1)

166 Every time the media vomits up this sort of manipulative nonsense
_______________

I don't think they vomited it up. I think their product comes out of the other end of the GI tract.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 12:45 PM (YqDXo)

---------------

"Embrace the healing power of *AND* my friend!"

/obligatory Hunter Biden

Posted by: ShainS at May 02, 2025 12:48 PM (cXwBh)

167
"Bosom," of course.
Posted by: Bulg

Finally.

I expected better from You People.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 12:48 PM (vc0YZ)

168 OT: A guy who runs a company marketing detailed housing data decided to publish a contrarian take on X, which may well get him a job at the New York Times.

Ready?

He claims that many people are now moving out of Florida to the Northeast.

His "evidence" is two-fold: net migration to Florida is sharply down from its Covid peak, and there are now more houses for sale in Florida than in the Northeast, reversing the relationship of a few years ago.

Curiously, the Census Bureau continues to show Florida strongly growing in population, while the Northeast remains stagnant.

No, no, really! Across Florida, millions of people are thinking: "You know, life would be a lot better in Connecticut."

Truly!

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 02, 2025 12:48 PM (xTIDn)

169 And there is more! Think back to the years of Glorious Leader Biden...how often did the media cite downward revisions in data? I can't recall a single report! They simply glossed over the constant revisions, because they were in the bag for the administration.
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That's the game. And it's very boring.

Government side:
"Good" president: lie about the thing being measured so it looks good.
"Bad" president: lie about the thing being measured so it looks bad.
Any president: revise a few times to arrive at something closer to reality.

Press side:
Any president: Report the first number, ignore all revisions.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2025 12:48 PM (WkNQM)

170 How does a country with a replacement rate of 1.2, it's northwestern section only at .7, become a hegemon to rule the world?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Same way that Japan was supposed to rule the world in the 80's and early 90's.

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2025 12:48 PM (ctrM5)

171 I think it's only a matter of time before Trump's administration turns their attention to the so-called "fake news." Google, Facebook, et. al. are going to come under some serious scrutiny. And not 'just' for their meddling in elections. It'll be for pushing actual dis/misinformation they were so keen on claiming Trump and his supporters were pushing circa 2020 +

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 02, 2025 12:48 PM (Q4IgG)

172 We're gonna win the hearts and minds of the Iraqi by freeing them from Saddam!
Naturally, they'll choose to become a Jeffersonian democracy.
/s/ Republicans and Democrat War Profiteers.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 02, 2025 12:44 PM (NwfFc)

So naturally you do not support the WWII war profiteers, right?

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 02, 2025 12:48 PM (jqrzj)

173 Finally.

I expected better from You People.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 12:48 PM (vc0YZ)

RAYCISS!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 02, 2025 12:49 PM (Zz0t1)

174 Excellent post, ace!

Posted by: runner at May 02, 2025 12:49 PM (g47mK)

175 Ah, but even Milton Friedman believed that free flows of people are extremely bad for countries with generous welfare systems, such as the U.S.

If you pay people to not work, you'll get more people that don't work.

If you are willing to pay people to emigrate to not work, we'll, you get tens of millions of them as we've seen over the last few years.

On a related note I've suggested to leftists that we could compromise on immigration - no immigrant or their children may ever receive any form of government aid but otherwise anyone can get a visa...deal?

And you'll be shocked to learn that would be...rayciss

Posted by: 18-1 at May 02, 2025 12:49 PM (t0Rmr)

176 Is that what the NYT is arguing? I dunno. Either way, their conclusion is wrong. But that *would* at least be a more defensible argument than the non-argument they made. But if that *was* the intent behind the article, it's irrelevant - they didn't articulate it. They couldn't if they wanted to do. They're not just malevolent, they're incompetent. All they can do is lie and lie poorly.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2025 12:46 PM (WkNQM)

I think it basically boils down to this: the people running this country are EXTREMELY removed from the daily lives / cultures / attitudes of the people who make up the vast majority of the people living, working and dying here.

If they think about them at all, they look at them with confusion and distaste.

But in their mind, they control one of the biggest "assets" on the planet -- access to the American market. Which is a powerful weapon to have. So if they can trade some of that access for money, power or influence, of course they will.

No one is sitting there saying "what are the long term consequences to fucking over the middle class? What happens when you kill the goose that laid the golden egg?"

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 02, 2025 12:49 PM (uCjyK)

177 Ample...

Tracts of land!

Posted by: Monty Python! at May 02, 2025 12:49 PM (xTIDn)

178 Activists with button-pushing adjectives replaced journalists a long time ago.

Posted by: Auspex at May 02, 2025 12:47 PM (j4U/Z)

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Up next? "AI" Activist "Journalists."

Posted by: ShainS at May 02, 2025 12:49 PM (cXwBh)

179 My Hate Feed gives me regular articles from Reason that are to the left of most mainstream media.

Which tells you all you need to know about the libertarian commitment to liberty.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 02, 2025 12:50 PM (NwfFc)

180 https://is.gd/80f9ab
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 02, 2025 12:45 PM (Zz0t1)

Honestly, what use are those things unless you're lost at sea?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 02, 2025 12:50 PM (0eaVi)

181 Ample...
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 12:44 PM (vc0YZ)

Buttocks!

Posted by: Lindsey Graham, Closeted Homosexual at May 02, 2025 12:50 PM (R/m4+)

182 171 I think it's only a matter of time before Trump's administration turns their attention to the so-called "fake news." Google, Facebook, et. al. are going to come under some serious scrutiny. And not 'just' for their meddling in elections. It'll be for pushing actual dis/misinformation they were so keen on claiming Trump and his supporters were pushing circa 2020 +
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 02, 2025 12:48 PM (Q4IgG)

They call for some good ol’ fashioned trust-busting.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 02, 2025 12:50 PM (jqrzj)

183 We're gonna win the hearts and minds of the Iraqi by freeing them from Saddam!

The best way to "win hearts and minds" would have been to ruthlessly kill anyone with any connection to Saddam, his government, or AQ, and anyone that took up arms against us and otherwise let them be.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 02, 2025 12:50 PM (t0Rmr)

184 AI Persona....

Posted by: runner at May 02, 2025 12:50 PM (g47mK)

185 Ample: enough. Umple: not enough. Nople: bupkis.

Posted by: Preparing gp For Lazy Loading at May 02, 2025 12:50 PM (7o9l6)

186
Honestly, what use are those things unless you're lost at sea?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 02, 2025 12:50 PM (0eaVi)

They're called 'funbags' for a reason.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 02, 2025 12:50 PM (Zz0t1)

187 183 The best way to "win hearts and minds" would have been to ruthlessly kill anyone with any connection to Saddam, his government, or AQ, and anyone that took up arms against us and otherwise let them be.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 02, 2025 12:50 PM (t0Rmr)

======

Denying Baathists from any government job...just as good, right?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 12:51 PM (GBKbO)

188 "But if you make a regulation that all businesses must dig ditches with spoons around their property, then you'll create so many jobs!"
-paraphrase of reasoning I heard from someone many moons ago, arguing for the ACA

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 12:25 PM (GBKbO)
_______________

Marx's labor theory of value lives!

Posted by: Hot Beverage Engineers at May 02, 2025 12:51 PM (YqDXo)

189 Saw a clip where Chuck U. Schumer was crowing that Trump was at the lowest approval ever measured for a President in some poll. Then someone from the media asked him about polling showing him at 17% approval and he launched immediately into "polls are fake and gay".

Posted by: Ian S. at May 02, 2025 12:51 PM (QZThv)

190 Ample...

Posted by: Soothsayer
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Eve.

Oh...'ample'...never mind.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 02, 2025 12:51 PM (XeU6L)

191 We must always view the media as NOT a source of news and information, but as a propaganda arm of the hardcore left of the dem party. (aka marxist, socialists, communists, etc.)

Posted by: Diogenes at May 02, 2025 12:52 PM (W/lyH)

192 https://is.gd/80f9ab
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 02, 2025 12:45 PM (Zz0t1)

Honestly, what use are those things unless you're lost at sea?
Posted by: OrangeEnt

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It would be interesting to know how many of those are real and how many are AI generated.

I'm betting 90%+ AI

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Look up the definition of Nose Ring Theory at May 02, 2025 12:52 PM (Ji8U7)

193 Saw a clip where Chuck U. Schumer was crowing that Trump was at the lowest approval ever measured for a President in some poll. Then someone from the media asked him about polling showing him at 17% approval and he launched immediately into "polls are fake and gay".
Posted by: Ian S. at May 02, 2025 12:51 PM (QZThv)

"It looks good on you, tho......"

Posted by: Al Cervik at May 02, 2025 12:52 PM (Zz0t1)

194 Curiously, the Census Bureau continues to show Florida strongly growing in population, while the Northeast remains stagnant.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
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Damn the data!! Full speed ahead on the narrative!

Posted by: Media analyst at May 02, 2025 12:52 PM (ctrM5)

195 What is one reason people don't trust journalists? They call themselves journalists instead of reporters. They are supposed to report. See also, educators instead of teachers.

Posted by: huerfano at May 02, 2025 12:20 PM (n2swS)
_______________

BINGO!!!

The terms are not the same but fool low IQ people into equating them.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at May 02, 2025 12:52 PM (17s+e)

196 134 26 Thx CBD. Whether you hate the media or not, one thing that is beyond debate is how stupid the people who make up the media actually are. Tapper, Todd and the others are thinking that no one notices how they covered for Biden being a drooling mess. They claim they were fooled too. They're actually alleging they were too stupid to notice.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 02, 2025 12:24 PM (Er3Q7)

+++++

This really slays me. They are admitting that they have absolutely no observational skills at all. Zero. When tens of millions of Americans and millions more from around the world could see, from day one, that Biden was obviously collapsing both verbally and physically, they, the media, could not discern any of this. Yet, they still maintain that they are the premium eyewitnesses to current events and will report to us. The best.

Posted by: washrivergal at May 02, 2025 12:42 PM (2hDiL)

Their painting themselves as blameless for the Joe charade also effectively means they are incapable of deductive reasoning and lack common sense. Along with admitting Karine Jean-Pierre and other idiots completely bamboozled them for years. Top. Men. And. Women.

Posted by: Gref at May 02, 2025 12:52 PM (aBgBM)

197 Ample...

Posted by: Soothsayer

"Bosom," of course.
Posted by: Bulg at May 02, 2025 12:47 PM (77rzZ)

No, no. Of Lorenzini.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 02, 2025 12:52 PM (0eaVi)

198 sock off

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 12:53 PM (YqDXo)

199 The best way to "win hearts and minds" would have been to ruthlessly kill anyone with any connection to Saddam, his government, or AQ, and anyone that took up arms against us and otherwise let them be.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 02, 2025 12:50 PM (t0Rmr)

But why?

Why would we overthrow a government that we put in place in order to overthrow the previous government that we said was too communist (ie: wanted to nationalize the oil)?

Why not just ... let it be.

Because we've now created yet another failed state in the middle east. And cost ourselves billions in the process. And many, many wounded and dead Americans and exponentially more wounded and dead Iraqis.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 02, 2025 12:53 PM (uCjyK)

200 and he launched immediately into "polls are fake and gay".
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Man, Polack jokes were so great.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Look up the definition of Nose Ring Theory at May 02, 2025 12:53 PM (Ji8U7)

201 media asked him about polling showing him at 17% approval and he launched immediately into "polls are fake and gay".
Posted by: Ian S.
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Does that mean TJM is actually in agreement with Schumer?

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2025 12:53 PM (ctrM5)

202 Emple: more than enough. Omple: ygbfkm.

Posted by: Preparing gp For Lazy Loading at May 02, 2025 12:53 PM (7o9l6)

203 I think it basically boils down to this: the people running this country are EXTREMELY removed from the daily lives / cultures / attitudes of the people who make up the vast majority of the people living, working and dying here.

Paul Krugman wrote an article in 2016 denouncing the MAGA-types who said that the Obama economy was bad.

Why, when he looked around the Upper West Side of Manhattan (where Krugman lived), the economy seemed to be just great!

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 02, 2025 12:54 PM (xTIDn)

204 I think it basically boils down to this: the people running this country are EXTREMELY removed from the daily lives / cultures / attitudes of the people who make up the vast majority of the people living, working and dying here.

If they think about them at all, they look at them with confusion and distaste.

But in their mind, they control one of the biggest "assets" on the planet -- access to the American market. Which is a powerful weapon to have. So if they can trade some of that access for money, power or influence, of course they will.

No one is sitting there saying "what are the long term consequences to fucking over the middle class? What happens when you kill the goose that laid the golden egg?"
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 02, 2025 12:49 PM (uCjyK)
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They don't care. Maybe even want it. Golden eggs be damned, they *hate* us and are willing to undergo their own privations to put us back in our place as bound serfs.

It doesn't matter how shitty the hill is, so long as they are the kings of it. If there's a really nice hill where they're just rich and comfortable, they'd rather wreck it even if it means they still have to live there - so long as they're in charge.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2025 12:54 PM (WkNQM)

205 201 media asked him about polling showing him at 17% approval and he launched immediately into "polls are fake and gay".
Posted by: Ian S.
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Does that mean TJM is actually in agreement with Schumer?
Posted by: whig at May 02, 2025 12:53 PM (ctrM5)

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I now think polls are completely accurate at all times even when contradictory and making no sense.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 12:54 PM (GBKbO)

206 What is one reason people don't trust journalists? They call themselves journalists instead of reporters. They are supposed to report. See also, educators instead of teachers.

Posted by: huerfano at May 02, 2025 12:20 PM (n2swS)
_______________

BINGO!!!

The terms are not the same but fool low IQ people into equating them.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at May 02, 2025 12:52 PM (17s+e)
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They try to arrogate to themselves unearned status.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 12:54 PM (YqDXo)

207 let's conduct a little AoS Experiment...

Quick, Gentlemen, what's the First Word that comes into your mind when you see this word:

Ample...

Posted by: Soothsayer
......

Orange

Posted by: wth at May 02, 2025 12:55 PM (v0R5T)

208 I sappled a ripe red ample.

Posted by: Preparing gp For Lazy Loading at May 02, 2025 12:55 PM (7o9l6)

209 Why not just ... let it be.

Because we've now created yet another failed state in the middle east. And cost ourselves billions in the process. And many, many wounded and dead Americans and exponentially more wounded and dead Iraqis.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

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With hindsight that is really easy:

Al Qaeda wasn't strong or organized enough to tamp down competing groups and occupy the nation for sufficient time to establish dominance. So we did it for them, and then smiled and handed the nations back per the terms of our agreement.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Look up the definition of Nose Ring Theory at May 02, 2025 12:56 PM (Ji8U7)

210 They're called 'funbags' for a reason.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 02, 2025 12:50 PM (Zz0t1)

Grossly distorted things you can't even put completely in your hands or mouth? Eh. If they're not natural, they're probably hard.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 02, 2025 12:56 PM (0eaVi)

211 Which tells you all you need to know about the libertarian commitment to liberty.

True Liberty consists of two components:

1) Legalizing hard drugs.

2) Abolishing the age of consent laws.

Posted by: Libertarians! at May 02, 2025 12:56 PM (xTIDn)

212 There's a funny viral video going around where an American black woman of size moved to Ghana "to escape racism". But to her horror "there's no snacks" but there's wall-to-wall corruption. Uhh, welcome to Africa?

Posted by: Ian S. at May 02, 2025 12:57 PM (QZThv)

213 Tariffs aside, this chilly brunette in a dress wouldn't mind a blanket:
http://tiny.cc/xfhi001

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2025 12:57 PM (WkNQM)

214 They don't care. Maybe even want it. Golden eggs be damned, they *hate* us and are willing to undergo their own privations to put us back in our place as bound serfs.

It doesn't matter how shitty the hill is, so long as they are the kings of it. If there's a really nice hill where they're just rich and comfortable, they'd rather wreck it even if it means they still have to live there - so long as they're in charge.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2025 12:54 PM (WkNQM)

I agree they don't care. But I also don't think they're smart enough to understand fully what they're doing. At least not most of them. I don't think we're dealing with very smart people here.

And the richest / smartest ones already bought citizenship somewhere else and have bunkers built in New Zealand that they can sail to on their Dr. Evil yachts if the natives get too uppity.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 02, 2025 12:57 PM (uCjyK)

215 [snip]

But in their mind, they control one of the biggest "assets" on the planet -- access to the American market. Which is a powerful weapon to have. So if they can trade some of that access for money, power or influence, of course they will.

No one is sitting there saying "what are the long term consequences to fucking over the middle class? What happens when you kill the goose that laid the golden egg?"

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 02, 2025 12:49 PM (uCjyK)

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The Marxist cultural revolution of the '60s and '70s failed in America because they couldn't fully seize the means of PHYSICAL production.

They then retooled and "seized/pounced" upon Marcuse's strategy of taking over all the institutions -- beginning with the academy.

They (in the meantime) succeeded, having effectively seized the means of KNOWLEDGE, INFORMATION, and COMMUNICATIONS production. But that too is changing and they'll likely likewise eventually fail in that endeavor as well ...

Posted by: ShainS at May 02, 2025 12:57 PM (Px5Fl)

216
Grossly distorted things you can't even put completely in your hands or mouth? Eh. If they're not natural, they're probably hard.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 02, 2025 12:56 PM (0eaVi)

If it's more than a handful, you might sprain a thumb or something.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 02, 2025 12:57 PM (Zz0t1)

217 Junior's Ample

BR-549

Posted by: Pug Mahon at May 02, 2025 12:57 PM (PSEDc)

218 Tariffs aside, this chilly brunette in a dress wouldn't mind a blanket:
http://tiny.cc/xfhi001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2025 12:57 PM (WkNQM)

She better be careful. She can put an eye out with those things.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 02, 2025 12:57 PM (Zz0t1)

219 Goldi Hawn may be the only one alive.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at May 02, 2025 12:58 PM (ZmEVT)

220 I hope the ewok took his summer weight pelt on vacation. Its a little warm outside today.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 02, 2025 12:58 PM (FdrjG)

221 If it's more than a handful, you might sprain a thumb or something.
Posted by: Sponge

A risk I'd be willing to take.

Posted by: Bulg at May 02, 2025 12:58 PM (77rzZ)

222 We must always view the media as NOT a source of news and information, but as a propaganda arm of the hardcore left of the dem party. (aka marxist, socialists, communists, etc.)

Posted by: Diogenes at May 02, 2025 12:52 PM (W/lyH)
_______________

I suggest a tactic I used in negotiations: I'd prepend to whatever the other side said, "They want us to believe ..."

Doing so helps to keep an intellectual and emotional distance from what is being conveyed.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 12:58 PM (YqDXo)

223 There's a funny viral video going around where an American black woman of size moved to Ghana "to escape racism". But to her horror "there's no snacks" but there's wall-to-wall corruption. Uhh, welcome to Africa?
Posted by: Ian S. at May 02, 2025 12:57 PM (QZThv)
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The vast majority of Africans I know hate and detest African Americans.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 02, 2025 12:59 PM (RIvkX)

224 What must I do to prove my hatred for the media is sufficient?

Posted by: tankdemon at May 02, 2025 12:59 PM (n/wJo)

225 Well that's odd. The media and others have told me tariffs don't work.

>>@zerohedge
·
>>47m
China is coming with a deal offer

>>"Beijing’s thinking involves dispatching Wang, who is a senior leader within the State Council, China’s cabinet, to the U.S. to meet with senior Trump officials"

Posted by: JackStraw at May 02, 2025 12:59 PM (viF8m)

226 The best way to "win hearts and minds" would have been to ruthlessly kill anyone with any connection to Saddam, his government, or AQ, and anyone that took up arms against us and otherwise let them be.
Posted by: 18-1
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If you wanted fewer deaths--US and Iraqi, simply removing Saddam and leaving would have been prudent. One of his generals would have ended up running the place most likely.

To 'fix' a nation, you have to kill about 30-40 percent of military age males and then occupy them for decades. And to prevent internal civil wars, you have to pick one faction to suppress the others as the rulers dependent on you to stay in power (the favorite Brit solution). US occupation of Germany and Japan were outliers because their nation states were one ethnicity with few internal squabbles.

Remaking nations is not really possible in this day and age of crumbling internal cohesion and a distaste for ruthless violent coercion. A Putin or Xi might pull it off but not the West anymore.

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2025 12:59 PM (ctrM5)

227 The Constitution has a preample.

Posted by: Preparing gp For Lazy Loading at May 02, 2025 01:00 PM (7o9l6)

228 China is coming with a deal offer

>>"Beijing’s thinking involves dispatching Wang, who is a senior leader within the State Council, China’s cabinet, to the U.S. to meet with senior Trump officials"
Posted by: JackStraw at May 02, 2025 12:59 PM (viF8m)

https://youtu.be/RePybi45jO0

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 02, 2025 01:00 PM (Zz0t1)

229 The Constitution has a preample.
Posted by: Preparing gp For Lazy Loading at May 02, 2025 01:00 PM (7o9l6)

NO IT DOESN'T!!!!!

Posted by: Rachel Maddow at May 02, 2025 01:00 PM (Zz0t1)

230 You can have welfare or open borders.

You cannot have both.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at May 02, 2025 01:00 PM (ZmEVT)

231 True Liberty consists of two components:

1) Legalizing hard drugs.

2) Abolishing the age of consent laws.
Posted by: Libertarians! at May 02, 2025 12:56 PM (xTIDn)

Don't forget opening the border.

Posted by: ... at May 02, 2025 01:01 PM (QTr+M)

232 225 Well that's odd. The media and others have told me tariffs don't work.

>>@zerohedge
·
>>47m
China is coming with a deal offer

>>"Beijing’s thinking involves dispatching Wang, who is a senior leader within the State Council, China’s cabinet, to the U.S. to meet with senior Trump officials"
Posted by: JackStraw at May 02, 2025 12:59 PM (viF8m)
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Style Guide says its not official until they use "unexpectedly"

Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 02, 2025 01:01 PM (FdrjG)

233 They (in the meantime) succeeded, having effectively seized the means of KNOWLEDGE, INFORMATION, and COMMUNICATIONS production. But that too is changing and they'll likely likewise eventually fail in that endeavor as well ...
Posted by: ShainS
======
Fair assessment plus the internet effectively broke the old mass consumer market for information.

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2025 01:02 PM (ctrM5)

234 They then retooled and "seized/pounced" upon Marcuse's strategy of taking over all the institutions -- beginning with the academy.
______________

Marcuse's thing was harnessing and changing sexual mores to further the Revolution.

Gramsci was the one promoting the "long march through the institutions."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 01:02 PM (YqDXo)

235
I think our little AoS Match Game experiment proved my point.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 01:02 PM (vc0YZ)

236 > Tariffs aside, this chilly brunette in a dress wouldn't mind a blanket:
http://tiny.cc/xfhi001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2025 12:57 PM (WkNQM)

She better be careful. She can put an eye out with those things.
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Her chin? That thing's a weapon.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 02, 2025 01:02 PM (Q4IgG)

237 There's a funny viral video going around where an American black woman of size moved to Ghana "to escape racism". But to her horror "there's no snacks" but there's wall-to-wall corruption. Uhh, welcome to Africa?
Posted by: Ian S. at May 02, 2025 12:57 PM (QZThv)
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But they've got funeral dancers!

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at May 02, 2025 01:02 PM (6YdsJ)

238 230 You can have welfare or open borders.

You cannot have both.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at May 02, 2025 01:00 PM (ZmEVT)

You can't have open borders. If there is no border, there is no country. Even absent welfare, if the entire third world moved to the US, our entire system would collapse overnight.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 02, 2025 01:02 PM (uCjyK)

239 Well that's odd. The media and others have told me tariffs don't work.

>>@zerohedge
·
>>47m
China is coming with a deal offer

-

Darnit, one day Trump's luck is going to run out!!!

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Look up the definition of Nose Ring Theory at May 02, 2025 01:02 PM (Ji8U7)

240 Why is the market going up? There has not been a single piece of good economic news in the the last few weeks, yet the market is up about 9% in 10 days.

because people and companies are buying things pre tariff ? That would explain relatively solid Q1 earnings. But market prices are forward looking, and virtually every company is telling investors that they’re going to rough period. Valuations should be going down not up.

yeah sure. added 177k jobs. And i supposed next they'll claim they saved 258 million fentanyl deaths. oh wait....... they already did that

Markets look forward to the next earnings report, not the next 4 years when the Economy tanks. They know it's coming, they are trying to get what they can before the big drop. Usually they miss it and lose a fortune.

Low stock prices encourage buying. People with $ to burn are buying up cheap opportunities. Rich get richer.

"Good news" can be "maybe things are just a little less horrible than we thought yesterday". The market often goes down a lot of bad news, then comes back up a bit when people realize the news was bad enough that the fed is more likely to lower interest rates

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 02, 2025 01:02 PM (ycI94)

241 I think our little AoS Match Game experiment proved my point.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 01:02 PM (vc0YZ)
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That we're wiseacres?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at May 02, 2025 01:03 PM (6YdsJ)

242 They (in the meantime) succeeded, having effectively seized the means of KNOWLEDGE, INFORMATION, and COMMUNICATIONS production. But that too is changing and they'll likely likewise eventually fail in that endeavor as well ...
Posted by: ShainS
======
Fair assessment plus the internet effectively broke the old mass consumer market for information.

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2025 01:02 PM (ctrM5)
________________

Think how much the Reds must hate Algore for inventing the internet. They had total control over information until the internet came along.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 01:03 PM (YqDXo)

243 230 You can have welfare or open borders.

You cannot have both.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at May 02, 2025 01:00 PM (ZmEVT)

Agreed!

Posted by: Milton Friedman at May 02, 2025 01:03 PM (jqrzj)

244 You can have welfare or open borders.

You cannot have both.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at May 02, 2025 01:00 PM (ZmEVT)

How about neither?

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 02, 2025 01:03 PM (l3YAf)

245 I hope Trump doesn't make a deal with China, frankly.

I'd rather him not make a deal with anyone. High tariffs for everyone, no more immigration. The US is going to try to rebuild our economy, country and culture now, the rest of the world can fuck off and play nice. Or not, it's not our problem.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 02, 2025 01:03 PM (uCjyK)

246 Had a thought last night... EVERY decision Trump makes, is then challenged in a court. EVERY single one, from firing someone, to who can see what data, to standard immigrations expulsions.

Someone has to be funding this Lawfare... those lawyers do NOT work for free... and it is sooooo wide spread across the country... it must be organized.

Which needs to be uncovered...

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 02, 2025 01:04 PM (QAkQ3)

247 I think our little AoS Match Game experiment proved my point.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 01:02 PM (vc0YZ)

That's tits.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 02, 2025 01:04 PM (Zz0t1)

248 240 Why is the market going up? There has not been a single piece of good economic news in the the last few weeks, yet the market is up about 9% in 10 days."

Funny how this ignores the obvious - like maybe everything you're being told is bullshit?

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 02, 2025 01:04 PM (uWKK8)

249 I think our little AoS Match Game experiment proved my point.
Posted by: Soothsayer

Which was what?

Posted by: Bulg at May 02, 2025 01:04 PM (77rzZ)

250 Markets look forward to the next earnings report, not the next 4 years when the Economy tanks.
________________

Ah, the "climate change" gambit. OK, you can't see it now, but it's coming! Soon!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 01:04 PM (YqDXo)

251 Local News:This made me chuckle.

HEADLINE: Protesters pack downtown streets for massive May Day demonstration

https://is.gd/lj2uKQ

Estimates put the crowd size at ~150. Downtown vehicular traffic was not affected. At least they were united in their opposition of... well, I'll let one of them explain it:

“I think everybody here in this line has a different reason why they’re here"

I thought they were filming a Wegovy commercial.

Posted by: muldoon at May 02, 2025 01:05 PM (uCfKO)

252 And the richest / smartest ones already bought citizenship somewhere else and have bunkers built in New Zealand that they can sail to on their Dr. Evil yachts if the natives get too uppity.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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Dr Evil types never really think that their dachas cannot be easily taken by natives of those islands regardless of their puny security forces.

Most of those Mr. Bigs have shitty relations with the 'little' people that already live there.

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2025 01:05 PM (ctrM5)

253 Not as many leg enthusiasts here as there oughta be. And don't give me this men have legs shit - men have boobs too.

Posted by: ... at May 02, 2025 01:05 PM (QTr+M)

254 Journalism: For college students who can't swing the math required for an education BA.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Look up the definition of Nose Ring Theory at May 02, 2025 12:23 PM (Ji8U7)

You misspelled "Miss DesJardins' 3rd grade remedial arithmetic class"

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 02, 2025 01:05 PM (y9nCu)

255 237 There's a funny viral video going around where an American black woman of size moved to Ghana "to escape racism". But to her horror "there's no snacks" but there's wall-to-wall corruption. Uhh, welcome to Africa?
Posted by: Ian S. at May 02, 2025 12:57 PM (QZThv)
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But they've got funeral dancers!
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at May 02, 2025 01:02 PM (6YdsJ)

Yeah, but she's so fat... they need a funeral forklift.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 02, 2025 01:06 PM (QAkQ3)

256 There's a funny viral video going around where an American black woman of size moved to Ghana "to escape racism". But to her horror "there's no snacks" but there's wall-to-wall corruption. Uhh, welcome to Africa?
Posted by: Ian S. at May 02, 2025 12:57 PM (QZThv)
====

The vast majority of Africans I know hate and detest African Americans.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 02, 2025 12:59 PM (RIvkX)
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Ghana is strict by western standards, and the large Muslim population is nuts. It ain’t the country you wanna move to if youre a plump dumb narcissist THOT.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at May 02, 2025 01:06 PM (qYULV)

257 You can have welfare or open borders.

You cannot have both.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at May 02, 2025 01:00 PM (ZmEVT)

How about neither?

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director
===

News letter subscriptions?

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at May 02, 2025 01:06 PM (17s+e)

258 >> The Marxist cultural revolution of the '60s and '70s failed in America..

*looks at modern anti-white gay communist America*

Uh.. failed?

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 02, 2025 01:06 PM (l3YAf)

259 240 Why is the market going up? There has not been a single piece of good economic news in the the last few weeks, yet the market is up about 9% in 10 days."
__________________

Because the stock markets deals with expectations, dumb ass, and investors (mostly professional, but including retail ones) expect the economy to do well under the Trump reforms.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 01:06 PM (YqDXo)

260 Dr Evil types never really think that their dachas cannot be easily taken by natives of those islands regardless of their puny security forces.

Most of those Mr. Bigs have shitty relations with the 'little' people that already live there.
Posted by: whig at May 02, 2025 01:05 PM (ctrM5)

I'm not saying they will be successful in fucking off if things got really firey, just that that's their plan.

"Things are getting shitty in the US, lets sail off to Monaco"

Not showing a lot of loyalty to the old US of A and the people who drive the economy here, in other words.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 02, 2025 01:07 PM (uCjyK)

261 Think how much the Reds must hate Algore for inventing the internet. They had total control over information until the internet came along.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 01:03 PM (YqDXo)

You don't remember the war on Talk Radio and the "fairness doctrine"??

Posted by: ... at May 02, 2025 01:07 PM (QTr+M)

262 Not as many leg enthusiasts here as there oughta be. And don't give me this men have legs shit - men have boobs too.
Posted by: ... at May 02, 2025 01:05 PM (QTr+M)
++++
This leggy blonde likes being appreciated:
http://tiny.cc/7hhi001

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2025 01:07 PM (WkNQM)

263 248 240 Why is the market going up? There has not been a single piece of good economic news in the the last few weeks, yet the market is up about 9% in 10 days."

Funny how this ignores the obvious - like maybe everything you're being told is bullshit?
Posted by: Tom Servo
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I think some of it is that individual investors are overcoming market crashes by program traders. Read something to that effect where small investors are buying the price dips that the program traders keep inducing. It is the reverse of the normal small investors flee while the big traders remain.

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2025 01:07 PM (ctrM5)

264 The Constitution has a hampster.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at May 02, 2025 01:07 PM (HTa/G)

265 Dispatching Wang sounds like a Chinese pron movie

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 02, 2025 01:07 PM (Er3Q7)

266 253 Not as many leg enthusiasts here as there oughta be. And don't give me this men have legs shit - men have boobs too.
Posted by: ... at May 02, 2025 01:05 PM (QTr+M)

...And men can also have vaginas. That's science.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 02, 2025 01:07 PM (uCjyK)

267
Incidentally, within 60 seconds of AG Bondi making that "258 million lives saved" remark I reported it here and told You People the Fake News would make that their next Hoax.

But do any of You People remember? Nope.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 01:07 PM (vc0YZ)

268 Dispatching Wang sounds like a Chinese pron movie

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 02, 2025 01:07 PM (Er3Q7)

HA!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 02, 2025 01:08 PM (Zz0t1)

269 262 Not as many leg enthusiasts here as there oughta be. And don't give me this men have legs shit - men have boobs too.
Posted by: ...
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ZZ Top wrote a whole song supporting your viewpoint.

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2025 01:08 PM (ctrM5)

270 Not as many leg enthusiasts here as there oughta be. And don't give me this men have legs shit - men have boobs too.
Posted by: ... at May 02, 2025 01:05 PM (QTr+M)

Typical white people wastefulness. The Native Americans would goon to every part of the thot.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 02, 2025 01:08 PM (l3YAf)

271 Not as many leg enthusiasts here as there oughta be. And don't give me this men have legs shit - men have boobs too.

Posted by: ... at May 02, 2025 01:05 PM (QTr+M)
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But enough about Michael Moore.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 01:08 PM (YqDXo)

272 They misspoke "large turnout" S/B "Large People Protest."

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at May 02, 2025 01:08 PM (17s+e)

273 ...And men can also have vaginas. That's science.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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O Tempora! O Mores!

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2025 01:09 PM (ctrM5)

274
But enough about Michael Moore.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 01:08 PM (YqDXo)

*looks up from half eaten boar*

"Huh? What?!?"

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 02, 2025 01:09 PM (Zz0t1)

275 *forgot to sock Michael Moore*

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 02, 2025 01:09 PM (Zz0t1)

276
Legs?

Nah.

I'm into....

hips.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 01:10 PM (vc0YZ)

277 240 Low stock prices encourage buying. People with $ to burn are buying up cheap opportunities. Rich get richer.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 02, 2025 01:02 PM (ycI94)

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Even the poor can buy on the dip.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 01:10 PM (GBKbO)

278 O Tempora! O Mores!
Posted by: whig at May 02, 2025 01:09 PM (ctrM5)

Indeed, indeed.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 02, 2025 01:10 PM (uCjyK)

279 ========

Even the poor can buy on the dip.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 01:10 PM (GBKbO)

They can't afford a government issued ID. How are they going to invest in the market?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 02, 2025 01:10 PM (Zz0t1)

280 > ncidentally, within 60 seconds of AG Bondi making that "258 million lives saved" remark I reported it here and told You People the Fake News would make that their next Hoax.

But do any of You People remember? Nope.
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There were a number of revelations that came out of Trump's cabinet meeting. I do recall Bondi directing this exact claim to the media. So, of course they'd make it the next "Trump hoax."

I'm still waiting for the revelation about *biden's HHS and their involvement in child trafficking to hit.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 02, 2025 01:10 PM (Q4IgG)

281 I seem to remember a porn star named Annie Ample, way back in the Before Times.

Posted by: tsj017 at May 02, 2025 01:10 PM (xakWh)

282 248 Funny how this ignores the obvious - like maybe everything you're being told is bullshit?
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 02, 2025 01:04 PM (uWKK

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Retort:

The stock market is fake and gay and run by degenerate gamblers with access to algorithms they've designed to be degenerate gamblers.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 01:10 PM (GBKbO)

283 So naturally you do not support the WWII war profiteers, right?
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I do not.
The international banks funded both sides of the war.
Just like Ukraine isn't just a money-laundering scheme, it's also the international banks and their politicians, setting up generational loan repayment shakedowns.

All wars are run for profit.
And every aggressor claims they are merely defending themselves.
I won't pretend WWII was a "good" war. Maybe necessary, but not good.
I don't think the near 600k dead and wounded Americans was a fair trade so current Europeans can snear at us while lounging on their welfare subsidized by our defense.

We could have stopped the Holocaust before it started but our Democrat politicians hated the Jews just as much as Hitler.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 02, 2025 01:11 PM (NwfFc)

284 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2025 01:07 PM (WkNQM)

Nice choice, I love my women to look like they've been inside for about 6 years, preferably with some freckles - also there is little better in life than a surprise redhead.

Posted by: ... at May 02, 2025 01:11 PM (QTr+M)

285 279 They can't afford a government issued ID. How are they going to invest in the market?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 02, 2025 01:10 PM (Zz0t1)

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It is hard to find the pennies for free id.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 01:11 PM (GBKbO)

286 Hubba hubba.

Posted by: Appreciator of leggy blondes at May 02, 2025 01:12 PM (zWqtv)

287 255 237 There's a funny viral video going around where an American black woman of size moved to Ghana "to escape racism". But to her horror "there's no snacks" but there's wall-to-wall corruption. Uhh, welcome to Africa?
Posted by: Ian S. at May 02, 2025 12:57 PM (QZThv)
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But they've got funeral dancers!
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at May 02, 2025 01:02 PM (6YdsJ)

Yeah, but she's so fat... they need a funeral forklift.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 02, 2025 01:06 PM (QAkQ3)
_____________

It was amusing that she inter alia bleated about there being "no snacks." Behold the source of her weight problem.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 01:12 PM (YqDXo)

288 Why is the market going up? There has not been a single piece of good economic news in the the last few weeks, yet the market is up about 9% in 10 days.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions br

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These lowyards need to get out more. There’s been quite a bit of good economic news the past few weeks. Not all good, some was mixed, but overall the news has been positive, with some strong earnings reports.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at May 02, 2025 01:12 PM (qYULV)

289 I'm not saying they will be successful in fucking off if things got really firey, just that that's their plan.

"Things are getting shitty in the US, lets sail off to Monaco"

Not showing a lot of loyalty to the old US of A and the people who drive the economy here, in other words.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
=========
Cloud people is a pretty good description of them and their scribe at the NYT, Tom Friedman wrote a whole book on their perspective that the world is Flat.

To those in GloboHomo floating across borders seamlessly to a never ending series of lux resorts, hotels, and airports via jets, all their world is indeed the same.

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2025 01:12 PM (ctrM5)

290 Even the poor can buy on the dip.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 01:10 PM (GBKbO)

They sure can. Last week, the poor in front of me at the grocery store was certainly buying the dip.

Swear to god her entire grocery cart was full of soda, chips and french onion dip. Paid with an EBT card, obviously.

That's a lot of fucking chips. I hope she was reselling them on the streets and not planning on feeding her family with that food. I got type II diabetes just looking at the cart.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 02, 2025 01:12 PM (uCjyK)

291 >>I'd rather him not make a deal with anyone. High tariffs for everyone, no more immigration. The US is going to try to rebuild our economy, country and culture now, the rest of the world can fuck off and play nice. Or not, it's not our problem.

There's nothing inherently wrong with international trade. It can be a huge net positive.

The problem comes in when idiots who don't understand the way international trade works or worse are paid to ignore reality make the rules. International trade if done properly and with fair trade not free trade can significantly improve the lives of all Americans.

Being the sole super power in the world carries responsibilities as well as privileges. It's completely unrealistic to think we can live in isolation. It's not just a bad issue for national security it would be terrible economically. Let Orange Man do what he was elected to do. Maybe we can all afford Slovenian super model wives if he's successful.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 02, 2025 01:12 PM (viF8m)

292 Nice choice, I love my women to look like they've been inside for about 6 years....
Posted by: ...
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Prison?

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2025 01:13 PM (ctrM5)

293 I wonder if you can make it an investment strategy to save up cash until the market goes down, say, 20% in a given amount of time (a week or so), and then throw all that cash in at once...

Well, it is an investment strategy, but I wonder if it would work at all decently.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 01:13 PM (GBKbO)

294 To those in GloboHomo floating across borders seamlessly to a never ending series of lux resorts, hotels, and airports via jets, all their world is indeed the same.
Posted by: whig at May 02, 2025 01:12 PM (ctrM5)

Well, to be fair -- the four seasons multiple resorts in and around Monaco do look lovely.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 02, 2025 01:13 PM (uCjyK)

295 Even the poor can buy on the dip.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 01:10 PM (GBKbO)

They can't afford a government issued ID. How are they going to invest in the market?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 02, 2025 01:10 PM (Zz0t1)
_________________

We need to force stock traders to accept EBT.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 01:14 PM (YqDXo)

296
Why is the market going up? There has not been a single piece of good economic news in the the last few weeks, yet the market is up about 9% in 10 days.

Because, lololol, People don't give a fark what the Fake News says, anymore. People no longer look to the "news" to tell them what's going on.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 01:14 PM (vc0YZ)

297 My wife is off for Battle of the Flowers today in San Antonio. I'm working and not happy about it. Not for working the holiday; i'm not happy here every day. Started thinking about a cool job.
Someone who does fire drills all day (we had one yesterday morning). I could be a fire driller. Imagine dropping that at a bar with a delightfully simple young lady. 'I'm a professional fire driller.' Figure if I was lucky and had 300 bucks, that would work.

Posted by: Nelly at May 02, 2025 01:14 PM (pSknm)

298 276
Legs?

Nah.

I'm into....

hips.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 01:10 PM (vc0YZ)
——-

‘And lips …”

— Electric Boys

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at May 02, 2025 01:14 PM (qYULV)

299
Let's hope the China representative gets the Micheal Corleone / Sen. Pat Geary offer.

Posted by: Auspex at May 02, 2025 01:14 PM (j4U/Z)

300 296 Because, lololol, People don't give a fark what the Fake News says, anymore. People no longer look to the "news" to tell them what's going on.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 01:14 PM (vc0YZ)

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Businesses don't buy into it.

They could start firing a bunch of people to protect their profit margins.

But they're not.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 01:14 PM (GBKbO)

301 >> Well, it is an investment strategy, but I wonder if it would work at all decently.

BTFD. It’s been the most successful investment strategy for a dozen years now.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 02, 2025 01:15 PM (l3YAf)

302 The economic/financial illiteracy on DU Transmissions is breathtaking.

So much stupid in one place.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 02, 2025 01:15 PM (RIvkX)

303 302 The economic/financial illiteracy on DU Transmissions is breathtaking.

So much stupid in one place.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 02, 2025 01:15 PM (RIvkX)

=======

"Stock market is real!"
"Stock market is fake!"
"Stock market is real!"
"Stock market is fake!"
...
"Duck season!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 01:15 PM (GBKbO)

304 The economic/financial illiteracy on DU Transmissions is breathtaking.

So much stupid in one place.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 02, 2025 01:15 PM (RIvkX)

They're the guy in the Stupid shirt standing next to the guy in the I'm with Stupid shirt.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 02, 2025 01:15 PM (Zz0t1)

305

Fake News is IRRELEVANT. They can shove their fake bad "news" and their fake good "news" up their asses. That's why the DUmmies are so baffled -- the Gaslighting isn't working, even though it's literally 92% Negative on President Trump.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 01:16 PM (vc0YZ)

306 I need more time to cultivate the hate for the media.

Posted by: Dreamingrobot at May 02, 2025 01:16 PM (doeq/)

307 Being the sole super power in the world carries responsibilities as well as privileges. It's completely unrealistic to think we can live in isolation. It's not just a bad issue for national security it would be terrible economically. Let Orange Man do what he was elected to do. Maybe we can all afford Slovenian super model wives if he's successful.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 02, 2025 01:12 PM (viF8m)

We can and should live in isolation. I think it would be great economically, but more importantly -- if you haven't noticed, we are verrrry quickly losing any semblance of a unifying culture here.

That needs to be fixed. Like ASAP. Or the rest of it is meaningless.

Will be pretty bad for national security if no one joins the military, for example.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 02, 2025 01:16 PM (uCjyK)

308 News?
LOL.

Posted by: Most people at May 02, 2025 01:16 PM (zWqtv)

309 They sure can. Last week, the poor in front of me at the grocery store was certainly buying the dip.

Swear to god her entire grocery cart was full of soda, chips and french onion dip. Paid with an EBT card, obviously.

That's a lot of fucking chips. I hope she was reselling them on the streets and not planning on feeding her family with that food. I got type II diabetes just looking at the cart.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 02, 2025 01:12 PM (uCjyK)
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Maybe she was going to address Ghana's snack desert.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 01:16 PM (YqDXo)

310 Low stock prices encourage buying. People with $ to burn are buying up cheap opportunities. Rich get richer.
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Everyone's buying because stock prices are so low. Also no one goes to that restaurant anymore. It's too crowded.

Posted by: ... at May 02, 2025 01:16 PM (QTr+M)

311
Also: The Fake Freakout Of The Day is getting old and tired.

TFFOOTD

Everyfuckingday is a new fake freakout in the Fake News cycle.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 01:17 PM (vc0YZ)

312 I saw Battle of the Flowers open for Dispatching Wang at the PepsiCo Diabetes Dome in ‘08.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 02, 2025 01:17 PM (l3YAf)

313 Maybe she was going to address Ghana's snack desert.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 01:16 PM (YqDXo)

I hadn't considered the foreign aid angle.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 02, 2025 01:17 PM (uCjyK)

314 311
Also: The Fake Freakout Of The Day is getting old and tired.

TFFOOTD

Everyfuckingday is a new fake freakout in the Fake News cycle.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 01:17 PM (vc0YZ)

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There were predictions of economic collapse when Trump imposed 15% tariffs on China in 2018.

It didn't happen. Biden pulled back on none of the tariffs. He actually increased tariffs on China for a few products (EVs got 100% tariffs from Biden).

The economy didn't collapse. The stock market just kept going up.

Weird how no one remembers that.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 01:18 PM (GBKbO)

315 Prison?
Posted by: whig at May 02, 2025 01:13 PM (ctrM5)

I was thinking more along the lines of "basement".

Posted by: ... at May 02, 2025 01:18 PM (QTr+M)

316 These lowyards need to get out more. There’s been quite a bit of good economic news the past few weeks. Not all good, some was mixed, but overall the news has been positive, with some strong earnings reports.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at May 02, 2025 01:12 PM (qYULV)

What's a "lowyard"?

Posted by: pookysgirl, watching her kids grow overnight at May 02, 2025 01:19 PM (Wt5PA)

317
I mentioned it here the day after the election: Reddit liars were ALREADY posting they were losing their jobs due to Trump's tariffs.

That Gaslighting Hoax began November 5th!

So people are numb to the Bullshit. Not All, but Moist.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 01:19 PM (vc0YZ)

318 O Tempora! O Mores!

**********

When you cook tempura shrimp
At the optimal temp
That's O Mores

Posted by: muldoon at May 02, 2025 01:19 PM (uCfKO)

319 Everyfuckingday is a new fake freakout in the Fake News cycle.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 01:17 PM (vc0YZ)

Remember when they used to make fun of US for having "outrage"...?

Posted by: ... at May 02, 2025 01:19 PM (QTr+M)

320 This judge Boasberg clown has always been a camera hog.

From a 2020 A&E crime series.
https://tinyurl.com/33avbmus

Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 02, 2025 01:19 PM (/U5Yz)

321 These DU troglodytes are something. When the market is going down, they gloat and suck their own dicks, because of course the market is purely rationale and orderly, and a decline proves their point that Trump is an idiot. But when the market goes up? “The market is fake and gay,” they bleat.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at May 02, 2025 01:19 PM (qYULV)

322 >> Will be pretty bad for national security if no one joins the military, for example.

It would actually be really good. National security would return to actually protecting our nation, and not defending a bunch of anti-American Eurofags from each other.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 02, 2025 01:19 PM (l3YAf)

323 Businesses don't buy into it.

They could start firing a bunch of people to protect their profit margins.

But they're not.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 01:14 PM (GBKbO)
_______________

So people with financial skin in the game aren't concerned, whereas "journalists," who have NO skin in the game, are wringing their hands in anxiety.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 01:20 PM (YqDXo)

324 Will be pretty bad for national security if no one joins the military, for example.

Bring back the draft !!! It'll make men out of 'em !!!

Posted by: Boomer Warcocks Everywhere at May 02, 2025 01:21 PM (McYvC)

325 I can ensure you that I, in fact, have plenty of excess hate for the media.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 02, 2025 01:21 PM (i24o9)

326 These lowyards need to get out more. There’s been quite a bit of good economic news the past few weeks. Not all good, some was mixed, but overall the news has been positive, with some strong earnings reports.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at May 02, 2025 01:12 PM (qYULV)

What's a "lowyard"?
Posted by: pookysgirl, watching her kids grow overnight at May 02, 2025 01:19 PM (Wt5PA)
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Loser, idiot, low-class, undesirable, etc. Basically the DU.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at May 02, 2025 01:21 PM (qYULV)

327 326 These lowyards need to get out more. There’s been quite a bit of good economic news the past few weeks. Not all good, some was mixed, but overall the news has been positive, with some strong earnings reports.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at May 02, 2025 01:12 PM (qYULV)

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That GDP report was pretty much outright good.

The topline number was negative, but everything below it was very good.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 01:22 PM (GBKbO)

328 Everyfuckingday is a new fake freakout in the Fake News cycle.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 01:17 PM (vc0YZ)
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Say it with me (mentally): "they want us to believe ..."

Try it. It works.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 01:22 PM (YqDXo)

329 I can ensure you that I, in fact, have plenty of excess hate for the media.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 02, 2025 01:21 PM (i24o9)

Someone has a case of the Fridays.

Posted by: ... at May 02, 2025 01:23 PM (QTr+M)

330 We could have stopped the Holocaust before it started but our Democrat politicians hated the Jews just as much as Hitler.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
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Not that I care much for Democrats but during a Depression, there was no appetite across the political spectrum for bringing in immigrants at all. Once WWII started, there definitely was no political support from bringing in refugees of any ethnicity from over there.

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2025 01:23 PM (ctrM5)

331 Another underreported thing is that Trump's admin has been slashing regulation at an even greater pace than in his first term.

And they've been explicitly citing Loper v Raimondo, the SCOTUS case that overturned Chevron, in their reasoning.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 12:24

Someone should do a post on this topic.

Posted by: Dandalo at May 02, 2025 01:23 PM (3QsZU)

332 Also: The Fake Freakout Of The Day is getting old and tired.
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'News Reporter': are you concerned that you haven't given enough due process to a 2 yr old US citizen before deporting?

Rubio: We asked the mother we are deporting if she would prefer to take her child with her. If we didn't and kept the child in the US, you would then say we split up the family.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 02, 2025 01:24 PM (Dv3i1)

333 That GDP report was pretty much outright good.

The topline number was negative, but everything below it was very good.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 01:22 PM (GBKbO)

When the GDP goes down because of LESS GOVERNMENT SPENDING... how the hell is that a BAD THING?

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 02, 2025 01:24 PM (QAkQ3)

334 319 Everyfuckingday is a new fake freakout in the Fake News cycle.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 01:17 PM (vc0YZ

Gutfeld yesterday had 57 hoaxes by the MFM in Trump's first 100 days.

Posted by: Stateless.. 21% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back next week at May 02, 2025 01:24 PM (jvJvP)

335 Someone has a case of the Fridays.

Posted by: ... at May 02, 2025 01:23 PM (QTr+M)

Coming of a 15-8 win with two homers will do that to you.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 02, 2025 01:24 PM (i24o9)

336 National security would return to actually protecting our nation, and not defending a bunch of anti-American Eurofags from each other.
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Touché

Posted by: Pudinhead at May 02, 2025 01:24 PM (pZ64F)

337 That GDP report was pretty much outright good.

The topline number was negative, but everything below it was very good.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 01:22 PM (GBKbO)

Makes you wonder if someone messed with the topline number.

Nahhhhh

Posted by: ... at May 02, 2025 01:24 PM (QTr+M)

338 Speaking just for me ? I don't feel the need to pay the cost to keep the United States as a global empire. Whatever prestige some of you get out of it ? I simply do not.

Posted by: Fast Eddie Felson at May 02, 2025 01:24 PM (McYvC)

339 333 When the GDP goes down because of LESS GOVERNMENT SPENDING... how the hell is that a BAD THING?
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 02, 2025 01:24 PM (QAkQ3)

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It went down because of imports.

-5% just from that.

Fed spending also went down, of course (partially offset by increased lower government spending).

But consumer spending was actually up from the previous quarter which combines with the fact that we're touching on deflation.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 01:25 PM (GBKbO)

340 324 Bring back the draft !!! It'll make men out of 'em !!!
Posted by: Boomer Warcocks Everywhere at May 02, 2025 01:21 PM (McYvC)

You're not a real man until you've killed another man!

Posted by: XTC at May 02, 2025 01:25 PM (UnA8+)

341 Not that I care much for Democrats but during a Depression, there was no appetite across the political spectrum for bringing in immigrants at all.

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2025 01:23 PM (ctrM5)
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A rare exception: Columbia engineering the admission of the Frankfurt School, a group of Jewish communists.

Draw your own conclusions.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 01:25 PM (YqDXo)

342 Coming of a 15-8 win with two homers will do that to you.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 02, 2025 01:24 PM (i24o9)

Nice!

Posted by: ... at May 02, 2025 01:25 PM (QTr+M)

343 321 These DU troglodytes are something. When the market is going down, they gloat and suck their own dicks, because of course the market is purely rationale and orderly, and a decline proves their point that Trump is an idiot. But when the market goes up? “The market is fake and gay,” they bleat.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade
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NPCs on DU, only care about how it affects their Democrat religion, not the country. Many DU commenters are gubmint retirees or about to retire on state provided pensions based on years of service and do not give a shit about the general economy except inflation perhaps.

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2025 01:26 PM (ctrM5)

344
You misspelled "Miss DesJardins' 3rd grade remedial arithmetic class"
Posted by: IllTemperedCur

My High School had a Desjardins. She taught English.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 02, 2025 01:26 PM (63Dwl)

345 hat GDP report was pretty much outright good.

The topline number was negative, but everything below it was very good.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 01:22 PM (GBKbO)

It will be revised...up

Posted by: runner at May 02, 2025 01:26 PM (g47mK)

346 343 NPCs on DU, only care about how it affects their Democrat religion, not the country. Many DU commenters are gubmint retirees or about to retire on state provided pensions based on years of service and do not give a shit about the general economy except inflation perhaps.
Posted by: whig at May 02, 2025 01:26 PM (ctrM5)

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Pure partisans with no concern for ideology or even real world results.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 01:27 PM (GBKbO)

347 Speaking just for me ? I don't feel the need to pay the cost to keep the United States as a global empire. Whatever prestige some of you get out of it ? I simply do not.
Posted by: Fast Eddie Felson at May 02, 2025 01:24 PM (McYvC)

Just making ourselves safe from commies and terrorists. Oh wait...

Posted by: ... at May 02, 2025 01:27 PM (QTr+M)

348 Remember when the free traders told us giving China most favored nation status would make them more democratic? LOL.

The CCP became more Democratic! They are both communists!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 02, 2025 01:27 PM (VphID)

349 ..when the media is on to next shiny thing

Posted by: runner at May 02, 2025 01:27 PM (g47mK)

350 Fed spending also went down, of course (partially offset by increased lower government spending).
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uh, carry the one, ... nope. I don't have the math skills

Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 02, 2025 01:27 PM (Dv3i1)

351 We need to redistribute our assets !

Posted by: runner at May 02, 2025 01:27 PM (g47mK)

352
DU & and all Democrats have only Three modes:

1. Seething
2. Coping
3. Gaslighting
4. Scheming

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 01:27 PM (vc0YZ)

353 Coming of a 15-8 win with two homers will do that to you.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 02, 2025 01:24 PM (i24o9)

Nice!

Posted by: ... at May 02, 2025 01:25 PM (QTr+M)

Our guy is a mutant, probably pitches in the 60s, hit two homers including one grand slam. The other 2 RBIs as I recall. He routinely goes 3 up/down. Just a beast.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 02, 2025 01:27 PM (i24o9)

354 Just making ourselves safe from commies and terrorists. Oh wait...
Posted by: ... at May 02, 2025 01:27 PM (QTr+M)

So we ARE going to split up the Union after all.

Posted by: Fast Eddie Felson at May 02, 2025 01:27 PM (McYvC)

355 345 hat GDP report was pretty much outright good.

The topline number was negative, but everything below it was very good.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 01:22 PM (GBKbO)

It will be revised...up
Posted by: runner at May 02, 2025 01:26 PM (g47mK)

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I wouldn't be surprised, but not by a whole lot.

Maybe up .1 to .5%. Maybe enough to get to positive.

I wouldn't put money on it, though.

I'd actually be happy with a revision downward because calculations on fed spending were off, or something.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 01:28 PM (GBKbO)

356 The media are whores, and cheap ones at that.

Whores go away after you pay them.

Posted by: DaveA at May 02, 2025 01:28 PM (FhXTo)

357 >> So we ARE going to split up the Union after all.

Union’s already dead. Moose out front shoulda told ya.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 02, 2025 01:29 PM (l3YAf)

358 A rare exception: Columbia engineering the admission of the Frankfurt School, a group of Jewish communists.

Draw your own conclusions.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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The intellectuals left early on as they could see that disaster was looming. And so you got some into the US via the various country allotments for immigrants, not specifically because they were Jewish. So we did get people that were later helpful in the A bomb project as early 'refugees' as well as the Frankfurt School proponents.

Immigrant restrictions on countries outside of Europe were effectively barred from the US.

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2025 01:29 PM (ctrM5)

359 >> So we ARE going to split up the Union after all.

Union’s already dead. Moose out front shoulda told ya.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 02, 2025 01:29 PM (l3YAf)

They get nothing.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 02, 2025 01:29 PM (i24o9)

360 Its Friday and Manhattan Media has no story for the weekend that will hurt Trump. They failed - again. Let's see what next week has to offer.

Posted by: Pudinhead at May 02, 2025 01:29 PM (pZ64F)

361 Its Friday and Manhattan Media has no story for the weekend that will hurt Trump. They failed - again. Let's see what next week has to offer.

Posted by: Pudinhead at May 02, 2025 01:29 PM (pZ64F)

Soon.

Posted by: Judge Kamehameha at May 02, 2025 01:30 PM (i24o9)

362 359 >> So we ARE going to split up the Union after all.
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We are resolved to remain a Suicide Pact.

Posted by: Pudinhead at May 02, 2025 01:30 PM (pZ64F)

363 Speaking of hating the media...

Apparently, the National Weather Service is in "tatters" (per CNN) due to Trump Cuts and is "crippled" in its ability to predict the weather. And just before hurricane season!!!

This new outrage got the full court press two weeks ago, but I just now heard about it. It's the fire and police service "blackmail" writ large when it comes to cutting federal workers. It just can't be done. Society will collapse.

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at May 02, 2025 01:31 PM (4DY5T)

364 I will say the flag doesn't move me anymore. Yes that means the commies are winning and I'm an awful person. Them's the breaks.

Posted by: ... at May 02, 2025 01:31 PM (QTr+M)

365 "President Donald Trump announced Thursday the United States is “going to start celebrating our victories again” by renaming Veterans Day as “Victory Day for World War I” and establishing May 8 as “Victory Day for World War II.”"

did that happen? is 5/8 a new federal holiday ?

Posted by: runner at May 02, 2025 01:31 PM (g47mK)

366 The intellectuals left early on as they could see that disaster was looming. And so you got some into the US via the various country allotments for immigrants, not specifically because they were Jewish.
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Columbia went to bat for the Frankfurt School because they were communists, not because they were Jewish, although that didn't hurt.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 01:32 PM (YqDXo)

367 Apparently, the National Weather Service is in "tatters" (per CNN) due to Trump Cuts and is "crippled" in its ability to predict the weather. And just before hurricane season!!!
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Yet they can predict the climate a century from now. Honest.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 01:33 PM (YqDXo)

368 NO IT DOESN'T!!!!!
Posted by: Rachel Maddow
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Thanks, I had forgotten that.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 02, 2025 01:33 PM (XeU6L)

369 There be noodage.

Posted by: And lo, I nooded at May 02, 2025 01:33 PM (zWqtv)

370 The media's trying to manufacture the next crisis ala covid so they can go back to shoving horseshit down our throats. They really, really got their ya-ya's off on being able to do that.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 02, 2025 01:33 PM (Q4IgG)

371 Battle of the noods.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 02, 2025 01:33 PM (i24o9)

372 NOOD parallelism

Posted by: Ciampino - wait it is later ... yes at May 02, 2025 01:34 PM (sPQoU)

373 You know, n the stale halls of academia there are thousands of theories born every minute. Does not mean that the real world one has to adopt them!

Posted by: runner at May 02, 2025 01:34 PM (g47mK)

374 Bring back the draft !!! It'll make men out of 'em !!!
Posted by: Boomer Warcocks Everywhere at May 02, 2025 01:21 PM (McYvC)

As a general proposition, I don't disagree with the idea of a draft...as in 3 years or so of service in the military at some capacity. A small amount of payback for living in the USA isn't too much to ask.

Buuuuuuut, it would have to be fair and affect everyone.

And, it couldn't be used as some socialist pedo trannie grooming training ground as it obviously would've been under Biden and Oblabla.

Which means that it will never happen and probably absolutely shouldn't.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 02, 2025 01:34 PM (iJfKG)

375
Apparently, the National Weather Service is in "tatters"

Shadoobie, shattered, shattered

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 02, 2025 01:35 PM (63Dwl)

376 How many nations in the ME aren’t failures (setting aside Israel as an exceptional case)? The root problem in all ME states is Mohammedanism. Read Churchill for a well stated case why all such polities are so backwards and failing. Careful: you may have to dig to get Churchill’s real thoughts. Lots of online sources are bowdlerizing him or just omitted his early writings about the ME.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 02, 2025 01:36 PM (VphID)

377 I'd actually be happy with a revision downward because calculations on fed spending were off, or something.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Actual spending cut was something like 54 billion from predictions in Q1. Basically a rounding error. But, anticipated cuts in Q2 and Q3 are expected to be greater.

Tariff income in March set records but was only about 16 billion or so because the actual tariffs did not kick in until after April 5 for most countries. The main driver in tariff revenues so far was a huge flood of imports trying to beat the higher ones. Depending on calculations and assumptions, projected tariff revenue runs from 120 billion per year to maybe as much as double that but estimates are changing by the day depending on bilateral trade negotiations with specific partners.

Aircraft are a perfect example, China cancelled some Boeing aircraft already built and India snapped them up probably because their domestic aviation industry could not build such a thing yet anyway.

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2025 01:37 PM (ctrM5)

378 Apparently, the National Weather Service is in "tatters"

Shadoobie, shattered, shattered
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
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All those globull warming types can certainly find jobs in peddling doom predictions can't they?

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2025 01:38 PM (ctrM5)

379 376 How many nations in the ME aren’t failures (setting aside Israel as an exceptional case)? The root problem in all ME states is Mohammedanism. Read Churchill for a well stated case why all such polities are so backwards and failing. Careful: you may have to dig to get Churchill’s real thoughts. Lots of online sources are bowdlerizing him or just omitted his early writings about the ME.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit

There is an upper strata in such countries like Turkey and Iran under the Shah that were modern. Their problem is those outside of places like Teheran, Constantinople, etc. were both resentful and mired in Islamic fundamentalism from the imams and mullahs that saw themselves sidelined in a secular world. Islam has never had separation of mosque and state and as currently constituted simply cannot do so. So any reformers are fighting uphill battles on society if they try to separate them.

Attaturk succeeded for a time but the old bugaboo of the ME of corruption ended up producting a new caliph in all but name, Erdogan.

Some similar problems in Iran brought down the Shah.

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2025 01:43 PM (ctrM5)

380 According to Zerohedge, the real news is natives of the US, which hadn't gone up since 2018. Like, ZERO jobs added for citizens of the US in 7 years. Up ONE MILLION in this report.

Posted by: deadrody at May 02, 2025 01:49 PM (qf6NU)

381 I respect drug dealers more than I do reporters. They are more honest about their jobs.
Posted by: NR Pax at May 02, 2025 12:24 PM (lXCUP)

I draw the line between journalist and reporters. Reporters can find out facts and spread the truth. Journalists discover nothing and spread lies. There aren't many reporters around.

Back in the day it used to be a blue collar job, journalists are white collar...probably not coincidentally.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2025 02:17 PM (8avO+)

382 The free trade dogma is based on an Adam Smith world where England imports cotton because it cannot grow it and exports textiles because it has textile factories. That scheme does not apply in a situation where jobs are offshored to a hostile foreign power that uses slave labor, currency manipulation, and zero environmental protection.

Remember when the free traders told us giving China most favored nation status would make them more democratic? LOL.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at May 02, 2025 12:29 PM (DIweC)

If we had free trade there would be not even the concept of most favored nation status, since every country would get the same terms by definition.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2025 02:19 PM (8avO+)

383 The media's trying to manufacture the next crisis ala covid so they can go back to shoving horseshit down our throats. They really, really got their ya-ya's off on being able to do that.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 02, 2025 01:33 PM (Q4IgG)

That ship has sailed for good. even the leftists get their marching orders from other sources.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2025 02:21 PM (8avO+)

384 "President Donald Trump announced Thursday the United States is “going to start celebrating our victories again” by renaming Veterans Day as “Victory Day for World War I” and establishing May 8 as “Victory Day for World War II.”"

did that happen? is 5/8 a new federal holiday ?

Posted by: runner at May 02, 2025 01:31 PM (g47mK)

Renaming it doesn't make it a holiday I would think

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2025 02:22 PM (8avO+)

385 National security would return to actually protecting our nation, and not defending a bunch of anti-American Eurofags from each other.
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Touché
Posted by: Pudinhead at May 02, 2025 01:24 PM (pZ64F)

I think you can see where Trump wants to head for. Americaland is the Western Hemisphere, N and S America. Hence setting up demarcation lines in the Arctic, Panama Canal, and the friendship with El Salvador and Argentina.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2025 02:26 PM (8avO+)

386 Think how much the Reds must hate Algore for inventing the internet. They had total control over information until the internet came along.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 01:03 PM (YqDXo)

You don't remember the war on Talk Radio and the "fairness doctrine"??
Posted by: ... at May 02, 2025 01:07 PM (QTr+M)

Never total. They USSR were making mimeograph machines licensed with a criminal offense for having an unlicensed one. Also the real Radio Free Europe. But tours from my HS to Russia said you could make good trading Kennedy half dollars for stuff on the streets because he defied the USSR.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2025 02:29 PM (8avO+)

387 Remaking nations is not really possible in this day and age of crumbling internal cohesion and a distaste for ruthless violent coercion. A Putin or Xi might pull it off but not the West anymore.
Posted by: whig at May 02, 2025 12:59 PM (ctrM5)

I disagree to this extent, that the US Armed Forces are not usable for remaking/fixing nations, its not their job description or doctrine.

Rome had means that were pretty effective for a thousand years and more. But it was more social and indoctrination. Unless you revolted then the Army taught you a lesson not to do that. Much of it was incorporating large parts of the ruling class into the system with time.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2025 02:34 PM (8avO+)

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