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Parallels

It is common for people to draw parallels and comparisons between whatever or whoever is happening now and whatever and whoever happened before. The greater the event or the man, the more people will go looking for historical parallels. Even loose parallels are still embraced as a way to contextualize and explain whatever is happening now. We see this all the time with events and men alike. "Not since X" or "best since Y" or "worst since Z" are all very normal things to see.

When something becomes a cultural touchstone, it will inevitably become a common point for drawing historical parallels. COVID was compared to the 1918 Spanish Flu (or less often, the 1968 flu outbreak). 9/11 is the touchstone for terror attacks here and abroad. The October 7 attacks were described in many countries as "Israel's 9/11" because 9/11 is the touchstone. Depending on your political preferences, Biden was the worst president since Carter or the greatest president Roosevelt (or various others). The comparison made most often and most loudly for the past decade, however, is also the stupidest.

That comparison is, of course, between Trump and Hitler. This is a histrionic and profoundly stupid comparison. The two are nothing alike. If they were anything alike, those making this common and loud comparison would have been liquidated close to a decade ago, followed by total political persecution and slaughter of their fellow travelers while amping up state control of industry, social programs and wars of conquest. These, of course, did not happen. They couldn't. Trump is not at all like history's greatest boogeyman. But Trump, whether one likes him or not, is a great man, and great men invite comparison. This particular comparison, despite being very common, is quite stupid - but that doesn't mean comparison as such is stupid.

There are others. A lot on the right like to compare Trump to Reagan. Those on the left pretending to be edgy will sometimes say that Trump isn't really like Hitler, because he's really much more like Mussolini. One of our esteemed Morons (h/t whig), however, drew a historical comparison that I found compelling. It is a man who was profoundly different and Trump's opposite in virtually all of the particulars, but who shares very a common theme: Mikhail Gorbachev.

Like Trump, Gorbachev was a loyal patriot of a system that was approaching end-stage corruption and incompetence. Like Trump, Gorbachev took control in an attempt to salvage the system to which he was loyal by instituting reforms and making sweeping changes in an effort to arrest the decline. Like Trump, Gorbachev was the target of endless intra-Party attacks and coup attempts. The men are nothing alike in the specific. Gorbachev was a communist and Trump is not, as an obvious example.

But in a broader sense, the two are in similar situations, and trying to do essentially the same thing: fix the problems are arrest the decline. Both the USSR of the 1980s and the USA of the 2020s are empires in decline. Both are being consumed by corrupt and incompetent petty kinglets. Both countries have (or had) a decrepit, criminal ruling elite and a growing underclass increasingly mired in malaise and that is actively hated by its rulers. The USSR was further along then than the USA is now (and started from a much lower point), but the parallels are there and, I think, it is not hyberbolic to say that the situations rhyme. Things are not as bad here as they were in the USSR at its end, but we're on a similar glide path, with many commonalities.

The situation in both countries demanded - and got, at least in part - new leadership. Those leaders are not so dissimilar to each other. Gorbachev was not a revolutionary. At his core, Gorbachev was a loyal Communist Party member and Soviet. He did not want revolution and he did not want to tear down the Soviet Union. He wanted to reform the Soviet Union, to clear out the worst of the corruption and incompetence, clear out the deadest of the dead wood and in so doing, try to guarantee the Soviet Union's survival. He knew and was not alone in his knowledge that the USSR was teetering on the edge of collapse. His entire agenda was geared toward saving the system to which he was loyal, however damaged it had become.

Sound familiar? I think so. I think it sounds a lot like Donald Trump. Like Gorbachev, Trump is a reformer and not a revolutionary. He is thoroughly patriotic, loves the United States and is loyal to her and her people. He is trying to clear out the worst of the corruption and incompetence and clear out the deadest of the dead wood so as to ensure the recovery and re-ascendance of the United States. Unlike the USSR, the USA is (probably) not on the razor's edge of collapse but nonetheless, Trump - like Gorbachev - is having to beat back coup attempts and a continuous full-scale Party counter-assault by and on behalf of the politically-powerful established interests feeding on the body.

There are, of course, meaningful and important differences between the two that go far beyond one being a communist and the other being a human. Gorbachev was often fairly timid and Trump is brash. Gorbachev tried to be a "team player" and Trump does not. Gorbachev gently implemented many halfway measures, and Trump tends to go - or at least try to go - whole-hog. At the micro level, the two are radically different men with radically different approaches and diametrically opposed philosophies.

At the core of it, though, the two are quite alike. All of the particulars are different, but the themes are not. Both of these men tried (or are trying) desperately to fix and salvage their countries. To invert the normal form, they came not to bury Caesar, but to praise him. Gorbachev failed and ended up burying him anyway, though Trump so far has not. That's another fairly important difference.

Posted by: Joe Mannix at 01:30 PM




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1 never meet

Posted by: Ciampino - in New York City at May 02, 2025 01:32 PM (sPQoU)

2 parallel lines, that is

Posted by: Ciampino - in New York City at May 02, 2025 01:33 PM (sPQoU)

3 Battle of the noods.

Posted by: Judge Kamehameha at May 02, 2025 01:33 PM (i24o9)

4 I wonder how the Park Service will dye Mt Rushmore orange?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 02, 2025 01:33 PM (s16GZ)

5 German political party thread just got criminalized, along with the AfD.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at May 02, 2025 01:34 PM (rUU8O)

6 This is fake.

Parallels is what allows you to run Windows on a Mac.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 02, 2025 01:34 PM (Q4IgG)

7 >>>That comparison is, of course, between Trump and Hitler.

Meh. Give it four years and Vance will become Hitler.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 02, 2025 01:35 PM (i24o9)

8 7 >>>That comparison is, of course, between Trump and Hitler.

Meh. Give it four years and Vance will become Hitler.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 02, 2025 01:35 PM (i24o9)

======

Trump will finally be Reagan to NRO.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 01:36 PM (GBKbO)

9 Now do 1860.

Posted by: It's a parallel at May 02, 2025 01:36 PM (zWqtv)

10 so, can I have Ace's sheets or what now?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 02, 2025 01:36 PM (mlg/3)

11 Willowed:

Bring back the draft !!! It'll make men out of 'em !!!
Posted by: Boomer Warcocks Everywhere at May 02, 2025 01:21 PM (McYvC)


As a general proposition, I don't disagree with the idea of a draft...as in 3 years or so of service in the military at some capacity. A small amount of payback for living in the USA isn't too much to ask.

Buuuuuuut, it would have to be fair and affect everyone.

And, it couldn't be used as some socialist pedo trannie grooming training ground as it obviously would've been under Biden and Oblabla.

Which means that it will never happen and probably absolutely shouldn't.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 02, 2025 01:36 PM (iJfKG)

12 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 02, 2025 01:36 PM (Zz0t1)

13 They couldn't. Trump is not at all like history's greatest boogeyman.
___________

Ahem.

Posted by: Stalin and Mao at May 02, 2025 01:36 PM (YqDXo)

14 Trump is Hitler.

Parallel.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 02, 2025 01:37 PM (Zz0t1)

15 This is fake.

Parallels is what allows you to run Windows on a Mac.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 02, 2025 01:34 PM (Q4IgG)
++++
Got me!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2025 01:37 PM (WkNQM)

16 They realized the Hitler stuff is running on fumes so they're starting with Trump and his followers are just like the people who killed Jesus. I guess it's the next logical step when you don't want to mention any mass murdering communists.

Posted by: ... at May 02, 2025 01:38 PM (QTr+M)

17 Now do 1860.

Posted by: It's a parallel at May 02, 2025 01:36 PM (zWqtv)
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The parallels with Spain circa 1935 were compelling until the Orange Man was re-elected.

Now I'm much more optimistic.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 01:38 PM (YqDXo)

18 >>Fla. AG to rebuff judge who ordered halt to state immigration enforcement: 'The court has overstepped'

Its about. Damn. Time. Somebody finally grew a set of balls.

Maybe Bondi should find some courage.

Enough of these courts and their grotesque destruction of our constitution.

Shut them down. Every. Last. One.

Posted by: Vengeance at May 02, 2025 01:39 PM (rDw+3)

19 never meet
Posted by: Ciampino
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And yet, divergent lines have a common origin.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 02, 2025 01:39 PM (XeU6L)

20
Confirmation bias?

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 01:39 PM (vc0YZ)

21 They realized the Hitler stuff is running on fumes so they're starting with Trump and his followers are just like the people who killed Jesus. I guess it's the next logical step when you don't want to mention any mass murdering communists.

Posted by: ... at May 02, 2025 01:38 PM (QTr+M)
_____________

Trump is just Stalin! Er ... Mao! No, wait ... Pol Pot!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 01:40 PM (YqDXo)

22 Everything is Hitler in its own way
Like a starry summer night
On a snow covered winter's day
And everybody's Hitler in their own way
Under God's heaven
The world's gonna find the way

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Elephants and Earthquakes! at May 02, 2025 01:40 PM (L/fGl)

23 Willowed again!

If you care, I left some thoughts about why so many ME states are basket cases, citing Churchill’s early writings for the concise summary as to why on the previous thread.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 02, 2025 01:40 PM (VphID)

24
Everyone is prone to false conclusions, mainly for scapegoats and excuses.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 01:40 PM (vc0YZ)

25 They realized the Hitler stuff is running on fumes so they're starting with Trump and his followers are just like the people who killed Jesus. I guess it's the next logical step when you don't want to mention any mass murdering communists.
Posted by: ... at May 02, 2025 01:38 PM (QTr+M)
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I haven't seen that one yet.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2025 01:40 PM (WkNQM)

26 Confirmation bias?
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 01:39 PM (vc0YZ)

In our judges, towards activists? Yes.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 02, 2025 01:40 PM (VNX3d)

27 Nice piece, Mr. Mannix.

Posted by: front toward enemy at May 02, 2025 01:41 PM (TIizU)

28 I haven't seen that one yet.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2025 01:40 PM (WkNQM)

They test ran it at Easter.

Posted by: ... at May 02, 2025 01:41 PM (QTr+M)

29
My old grandma...she was a real beaut when it came to "Ever since" -ing people.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 01:42 PM (vc0YZ)

30 How come they never haul out Marx, Lenin, or Stalin as odious figures?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 02, 2025 01:42 PM (XeU6L)

31 They test ran it at Easter.
Posted by: ... at May 02, 2025 01:41 PM (QTr+M)
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So that's what it takes to get a leftist to acknowledge Easter. Good to know.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2025 01:42 PM (WkNQM)

32 As a general proposition, I don't disagree with the idea of a draft...as in 3 years or so of service in the military at some capacity. A small amount of payback for living in the USA isn't too much to ask.

A draft isn't an "ask". Its a command. Hard no.

Posted by: Fast Eddy Felson at May 02, 2025 01:42 PM (McYvC)

33 I would agree with Trump is Andy Jackson, or Trump is Teddy Roosevelt. Those would be reasonable comparisons. The left and their audience is so barren of historical actors that they only know Hitler. I blame the Adolph Hitler Channel for this.

Posted by: Pudinhead at May 02, 2025 01:42 PM (pZ64F)

34

Ah I tell ya' horde it's rough out there, it's rough I tell ya'. Even as a kid I got no respect. My mother breast fed me through a straw!

Posted by: Zombie Rodney Dangerfield at May 02, 2025 01:42 PM (5hfjS)

35 I find Perpendiculars to be more useful than Parallels.

Smashy-smashy generally is more revealing.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 02, 2025 01:42 PM (iJfKG)

36 How come they never haul out Marx, Lenin, or Stalin as odious figures?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 02, 2025 01:42 PM (XeU6L)
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Because they never invaded the Soviet Union.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2025 01:42 PM (WkNQM)

37 If you care, I left some thoughts about why so many ME states are basket cases, citing Churchill’s early writings for the concise summary as to why on the previous thread.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 02, 2025 01:40 PM (VphID)
_______________

Churchill hit the nail on the head. Which is one reason why leftist revisionist historians are teeing off on him.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 01:42 PM (YqDXo)

38 The leftist thinking is as shallow as a kiddies pool and the Hitler trope is all they have.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 02, 2025 01:43 PM (D7yNd)

39 They realized the Hitler stuff is running on fumes so they're starting with Trump and his followers are just like the people who killed Jesus. I guess it's the next logical step when you don't want to mention any mass murdering communists.
Posted by: ...


We're Romans?

Posted by: rickb223 at May 02, 2025 01:43 PM (vs3rY)

40 >> A small amount of payback for living in the USA isn't too much to ask.

Oh, man, I thought that was the lifetime of taxes I’m obligated to pay to this fake and gay government! I didn’t realize I owed the Feds even more of my life so they can play empire overseas; silly me!

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 02, 2025 01:43 PM (l3YAf)

41 Declaring parallel events and/or personalities, then making comparisons, enables the Media and too many historians to be lazy.

Posted by: Gref at May 02, 2025 01:44 PM (aBgBM)

42 Very nice piece. I think they also have in common the proclivity for sniffing their own farts and rhapsodizing about how perfume like they are. The key difference is their area of egotism run amok. Gorbachev was very like Obama in his intellectual pretensions and ego. I don’t think Trump thinks of himself as smart so much as savvy, ie “you can’t put one past me”. Lot of New Yorkers think that way.

Posted by: Deceased Head Footyball Coach Howard Schnellenberger at May 02, 2025 01:44 PM (YZhRl)

43 hey realized the Hitler stuff is running on fumes so they're starting with Trump and his followers are just like the people who killed Jesus. I guess it's the next logical step when you don't want to mention any mass murdering communists.
Posted by: ...

We're Romans?

Posted by: rickb223 at May 02, 2025 01:43 PM (vs3rY)
_____________

Nope. Sanhedrins.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 01:44 PM (YqDXo)

44 Everyone is prone to false conclusions, mainly for scapegoats and excuses.
Posted by: Soothsayer
-------

Existentialism has entered the chat.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 02, 2025 01:44 PM (XeU6L)

45 Biden was the greatest president since God-King light bringer Barky McFuckstick I. - every leftist

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 02, 2025 01:45 PM (Er3Q7)

46 Shouldn't they be out in the fields picking cotton?

Jason Cohen @JasonJournoDC
NEW: 3 Black Trump Voters tell CNN's Van Jones they'd vote for him again if given a do-over
"1,000% absolutely yes!"

https://shorturl.at/I5Y1p

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Elephants and Earthquakes! at May 02, 2025 01:45 PM (L/fGl)

47 Very interesting Mannix! But uh oh…. If Gorbachev is a good Trump comp… because stainhead was not ultimately successful.

Stainhead… that was Rush’s nickname for Gorby right? Or something similar. Always made me laugh

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 02, 2025 01:46 PM (6RwsA)

48 The leftist thinking is as shallow as a kiddies pool and the Hitler trope is all they have.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 02, 2025 01:43 PM (D7yNd)

It's just e-z persuasion. The stark imagery is burned into the majority's minds - however overdone (for lack of a far better word) it may be it's emotionally jarring - so they get quick leverage with little work.

They do it with everything. It's why they often dress up their book titles in Biblical sounding language. Low work, high persuasion.

Posted by: ... at May 02, 2025 01:46 PM (QTr+M)

49 I’ve always said if trump is a fascist dictator he really sucks at it. Because if he were that, every leftist criticizing him would be dead or in a gulag.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 02, 2025 01:46 PM (NWr1F)

50 As a general proposition, I don't disagree with the idea of a draft...as in 3 years or so of service in the military at some capacity. A small amount of payback for living in the USA isn't too much to ask.

A draft isn't an "ask". Its a command. Hard no.
Posted by: Fast Eddy Felson at May 02, 2025 01:42 PM (McYvC)


I disagree. But, it's a no, only because of its implementation in reality.

No because no? Meh.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 02, 2025 01:46 PM (iJfKG)

51 Most parallels applied by the Left are uninformed, hyperbolic ignorance. They are initiated by "strategy" and passed onto the non-player characters (npc's) to apply in an astro-turf process, and who have long since given up on critical thought and individual determination.

It's why the Left is so ineffectual at present (Courts being the exception). There is no on one the Left willing to stick their heads up and take the lead...to present the strategy in which the npc's can apply the parallels. Arguably, the reason no one is taking the lead on the left is because they ALL have skeletons in the closet and illegalities hanging out there...and they know the second someone steps forward, that person will receive a vetting by the current administration that puts a proctologist to shame.

So, they fall back on the idiotic Fascist, Hitler, racist parallels until someone shows up with something new for them to spout.

Posted by: Orson at May 02, 2025 01:46 PM (dIske)

52 We're sitting right here...

Posted by: Trapezoids at May 02, 2025 01:47 PM (zWqtv)

53 They realized the Hitler stuff is running on fumes so they're starting with Trump and his followers are just like the people who killed Jesus. I guess it's the next logical step when you don't want to mention any mass murdering communists.
Posted by: ...

The Protocols of the Elders of MAGA.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Elephants and Earthquakes! at May 02, 2025 01:47 PM (L/fGl)

54

With girls I get no respect. A belly dancer told me I turned her stomach

Posted by: Zombie Rodney Dangerfield at May 02, 2025 01:47 PM (5hfjS)

55 Fla. AG to rebuff judge who ordered halt to state immigration enforcement: 'The court has overstepped'
______

Stated with sorrow and pity, moreso than anger, at the level lower than swamp gator poop that the once esteemed courts have brought themselves to in the eyes of the people of Florida.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 02, 2025 01:47 PM (Dv3i1)

56 >> Because if he were that, every leftist criticizing him would be dead or in a gulag.

Hmm.. 🤔

Second look at fascist dictatorships?

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 02, 2025 01:47 PM (l3YAf)

57 Jason Cohen @JasonJournoDC
NEW: 3 Black Trump Voters tell CNN's Van Jones they'd vote for him again if given a do-over
"1,000% absolutely yes!"


The left's notion that Trump voters are unhappy with what he is doing is perplexing...because he is doing what he campaigned on.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 02, 2025 01:48 PM (t0Rmr)

58 In the parallel universe Spock has a goatee.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 02, 2025 01:48 PM (63Dwl)

59 never meet
Posted by: Ciampino - in New York City at May 02, 2025 01:32 PM (sPQoU)
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:: sniff ::

Everyone forgets what happens when I get involved.

Posted by: The humble sphere at May 02, 2025 01:48 PM (WkNQM)

60
I'm curious if the parallel will extend through the drunken 1991 coup. Of course, there isn't a regional leader in the wings who made a habit of drunkenly playing with hand grenades in his youth. But I rather like the idea of him using the Army to shell a legislature full of commie cocksuckers in '93.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 02, 2025 01:48 PM (y9nCu)

61 As a general proposition, I don't disagree with the idea of a draft...as in 3 years or so of service in the military at some capacity. A small amount of payback for living in the USA isn't too much to ask.

No. The US population is too fragmented and too much of it fails to have the nation's interest at heart. We already have too many people in the military who should not be in the military.

If you want to have some mandatory service period for the yoots then have them dig a dignity canal.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 02, 2025 01:49 PM (ExV1e)

62 With girls I get no respect. A belly dancer told me I turned her stomach
Posted by: Zombie Rodney Dangerfield at May 02, 2025 01:47 PM (5hfjS)
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*snort*

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2025 01:49 PM (WkNQM)

63 By comparing Trump to Hitler, the Ds ( once back in power) can institute laws so we never again elect Hitler.

That's what this is about.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at May 02, 2025 01:49 PM (FxH7T)

64
Does anyone here doubt kalama harris's approval numbers would be in the 60's?

I clearly remember obama's fake approvals shooting up into the mid 60's the days after the 2008 election, and remained there until the middle of 2009.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 01:49 PM (vc0YZ)

65 The left's notion that Trump voters are unhappy with what he is doing is perplexing...because he is doing what he campaigned on.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 02, 2025 01:48 PM (t0Rmr)
______________

It's because they are unhappy with what he's doing, and they can't imagine anyone not sharing their perspective.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 01:49 PM (YqDXo)

66 They realized the Hitler stuff is running on fumes so they're starting with Trump and his followers are just like the people who killed Jesus.

Damn Romans.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 02, 2025 01:49 PM (ExV1e)

67 The left's notion that Trump voters are unhappy with what he is doing is perplexing...because he is doing what he campaigned on.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 02, 2025 01:48 PM (t0Rmr)

Again, just Narrative. After the popular vote they can no longer say he's unpopular, so now it's that people have changed their minds.

Posted by: ... at May 02, 2025 01:50 PM (QTr+M)

68 It's because they are unhappy with what he's doing, and they can't imagine anyone not sharing their perspective.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 01:49 PM (YqDXo)
++++
"I don't know a single person who voted for X!"

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2025 01:50 PM (WkNQM)

69 Second look at fascist dictatorships?

We'll get there. The only question is Castro or Pinochette.

Posted by: Fast Eddy Felson at May 02, 2025 01:50 PM (McYvC)

70 52 We're sitting right here...

Posted by: Trapezoids at May 02, 2025 01:47 PM (zWqtv)


Don't neglect us

Posted by: Parallelepipeds at May 02, 2025 01:50 PM (aBgBM)

71
Converging Parallels sounds like a piano piece by Satie.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 02, 2025 01:50 PM (QnmlO)

72 7 >>>That comparison is, of course, between Trump and Hitler.

Meh. Give it four years and Vance will become Hitler.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 02, 2025 01:35 PM (i24o9)

Everyone to the right of Mao is Hitler to them.

Posted by: XTC at May 02, 2025 01:50 PM (UnA8+)

73 It is common for people to draw parallels and comparisons between whatever or whoever is happening now and whatever and whoever happened before.
-

Willowed, and strangely on topic:

Not as many leg enthusiasts here as there oughta be. And don't give me this men have legs shit - men have boobs too.
Posted by: ...

-

I'd bet that most women who go to the gym with intent don't focus on their legs (or other body parts) for lithe beauty any longer. Now they want them to have muscles and look like men's legs. Maybe get a big thigh tattoo.

Now that I think about it, to look like women's legs that men as a whole appreciate they wouldn't be going to the gym.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Look up the definition of Nose Ring Theory at May 02, 2025 01:50 PM (Ji8U7)

74 This is about us, isn't it?

Posted by: Friends of Barrabus at May 02, 2025 01:50 PM (zWqtv)

75 For about a week after the election every leftist was talking about concentration camps for blacks and gays. And how trans people would lIteRaLLy be genocided

What happened to all that? Has anyone on the left said oh you know maybe we were a little hyperbolic. Sorry about that.

No of course not. And when Vance wins in 2028 (praise Allah it happens) they’ll say the same shit all over again.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 02, 2025 01:51 PM (NWr1F)

76 64
Does anyone here doubt kalama harris's approval numbers would be in the 60's?

I clearly remember obama's fake approvals shooting up into the mid 60's the days after the 2008 election, and remained there until the middle of 2009.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 01:49 PM (vc0YZ)

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How would anyone go about verifying something like that?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 01:51 PM (GBKbO)

77 Everyone is prone to false conclusions, mainly for scapegoats and excuses.
Posted by: Soothsayer

And to get laid.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Elephants and Earthquakes! at May 02, 2025 01:51 PM (L/fGl)

78 Everyone to the right of Mao is Hitler to them.
Posted by: XTC at May 02, 2025 01:50 PM (UnA8+)
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A few more years of unchecked wokism in the universities and even Mao will be Hitler.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2025 01:51 PM (WkNQM)

79 Meh. Give it four years and Vance will become Hitler.

"We didn't mean it last time really but THIS TIME HE REALLY IS!!!"
--Bill Maher

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 01:51 PM (2VST1)

80 Excellent post.

Trump is someone who is seemingly always satisfied with himself. I think that’s what they really hate about him most.

Posted by: H at May 02, 2025 01:51 PM (9XdxT)

81 The Left argues in abstractions and pejoratives because they can’t argue the truth. Truth immediately or eventually, and both factually and materially proves every argument they make as a lie, leading to a destructive end, sophism, fallacy or outright deception. They only gain ground because their adherents, both in the population and in the government or courts disguise their bleating as casuistry. It’s why every court case eventually ends up being reversed or struck down. Courts and the government are simply an artifice in their grand deception. They are evil, untruthful and unserious people who should be treated as such.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 02, 2025 01:51 PM (VcmLr)

82 Anyone who tries to draft me or force me to do mandatory national service is going to get the Reservoir Dogs treatment,

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 02, 2025 01:51 PM (l3YAf)

83 Better, just look up what Churchill had to say about the so-called “Muslims”. I prefer to call them Mohammedans, since they claim to follow a so-called prophet of that name, if he actually existed. They are not in submission to the Will of God, which is what their preferred self-cognomen means. Interestingly, Roman Catholic doctrine says, in Latin, presumably, that true religion is submission to the Will of God. Translate that into Arabic and you’re well on your way, in the mind of a Mohammedan, to proclaiming yourself a follower of a certain perverted version of heretical Christian dogma (Arianism) and it’s so-called prophet, piss be upon him, if he even existed.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 02, 2025 01:51 PM (VphID)

84 There's only one Trump.. Doubt we'll ever see another one...

Posted by: It's me donna at May 02, 2025 01:52 PM (VE6XX)

85

Ahh my wife horde, my wife. My wife and I were happy for 20 years,, then we met

Posted by: Zombie Rodney Dangerfield at May 02, 2025 01:52 PM (5hfjS)

86 Everything has been rhetorically inverted.

Cutting government is "fascism."

"Anarchists" demand government-run health care.

"Morbid obesity" is body positivity.

Violent, illegal immigrant gang members are "Maryland Men."

We are very much in "War is peace" and "Freedom is slavery" territory.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at May 02, 2025 01:52 PM (DIweC)

87 Elizabeth Warren is Rachel Dolezal.

Posted by: SQUANTO at May 02, 2025 01:52 PM (Ak2xC)

88 If you want to have some mandatory service period for the yoots then have them dig a dignity canal.

How about mandatory service for middle aged men that like the idea of mandatory service for teens ? Its easy to talk about the service somebody else has to provide.

Posted by: Fast Eddy Felson at May 02, 2025 01:52 PM (McYvC)

89 Everyone is prone to false conclusions, mainly for scapegoats and excuses.

There is a pretty healthy movement on line lately of people recognizing that a lot of what they have been told, that are "common knowledge" are, in fact, false. That was my favorite bit I used to do on my old blog: take something everyone knows, and show how it isn't so.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 01:53 PM (2VST1)

90 For about a week after the election every leftist was talking about concentration camps for blacks and gays. And how trans people would lIteRaLLy be genocided

What happened to all that? Has anyone on the left said oh you know maybe we were a little hyperbolic. Sorry about that.
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Now do global warming climate change. Always coming ... when in fact it's not even breathing hard.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 01:53 PM (YqDXo)

91 Both the USSR of the 1980s and the USA of the 2020s are empires in decline. Both are being consumed by corrupt and incompetent petty kinglets. Both countries have (or had) a decrepit, criminal ruling elite and a growing underclass increasingly mired in malaise and that is actively hated by its rulers. The USSR was further along then than the USA is now (and started from a much lower point), but the parallels are there and, I think, it is not hyberbolic to say that the situations rhyme. Things are not as bad here as they were in the USSR at its end, but we're on a similar glide path, with many commonalities.
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A reasonable precis of my senior thesis from 40 years ago. I forecasted the end of the Soviet empire. I did not suppose that we would become Soviet.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 02, 2025 01:53 PM (RIvkX)

92 There's only one Trump.. Doubt we'll ever see another one...
Posted by: It's me donna at May 02, 2025 01:52 PM (VE6XX)



Heh......

- - - - - - Barron Trump

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 02, 2025 01:53 PM (Zz0t1)

93 Rush also coined the term “Gorbasm” because lefties loved them some Gorbachev because only Gorby could save the world from Reagan’s coming nuclear holocaust

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 02, 2025 01:53 PM (6RwsA)

94 >> How about mandatory service for middle aged men that like the idea of mandatory service for teens ? Its easy to talk about the service somebody else has to provide.

Sounds like a good idea.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 02, 2025 01:53 PM (l3YAf)

95
I prefer to call them Mohammedans, since they claim to follow a so-called prophet of that name, if he actually existed.

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Mussulmen

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 02, 2025 01:53 PM (QnmlO)

96
As a general proposition, I don't disagree with the idea of a draft...as in 3 years or so of service in the military at some capacity. A small amount of payback for living in the USA isn't too much to ask.


Draftees get the choice of 3 years actual military discipline with enhanced UCMJ requirements or 3 years digging the Great Dignity Canal with spoons.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 02, 2025 01:54 PM (y9nCu)

97
The Democrats & Fake News cannot cope with Reality-based...reality.

They really believed they could Gaslight their will on us, because they think we're 1) stupid, 2) gullible, 3) afraid of them, and 4) impressed with celebrity.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 01:54 PM (vc0YZ)

98 The more I read bout the Institute of Peace the more ghastly it becomes. They deleted TERABYTES of data when they were breached by the feds, now recovered by the FBI.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 01:54 PM (2VST1)

99
Now do global warming climate change. Always coming ... when in fact it's not even breathing hard.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 01:53 PM (YqDXo)



It's 62 degrees in North Texas. On May 2nd......we're normally in the 90's by now.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 02, 2025 01:54 PM (Zz0t1)

100 Trump has no historical analog, what he is attempting is nothing less than turning the Titanic away from the Iceberg and if he succeeds not only will he save our republic but can show peoples around the world with globalist fuckwits running their own countries into the ground the way to fight back.

As I said, Trumps angling for his own big beautiful mountain.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 02, 2025 01:54 PM (T+d4M)

101 What happened to all that? Has anyone on the left said oh you know maybe we were a little hyperbolic.

Not yet, people are still going on about it. Singers refusing to come to the USA out of "fear" for themselves, etc. But yeah we see a lot less of this stuff.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 01:55 PM (2VST1)

102 It occurs to me that after Gorbachev there was a period of.... dysfunction in Russia. A tug-of-war if you will between factions. There were some pretty rough patches there. The US is teetering on the edge of remaining (more or less) a republic or becoming a totalitarian shithole.

When the left again reclaims the levers of power, and they will unless something very drastic changes the formula our elections follow, they will go full commie complete with all that comes with it. No turning back.

It's a possibility that requires some serious introspection as to what we'd be willing to sacrifice to prevent.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 02, 2025 01:55 PM (Q4IgG)

103 It's 62 degrees in North Texas. On May 2nd......we're normally in the 90's by now.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 02, 2025 01:54 PM (Zz0t1)

See, climate change is real.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 02, 2025 01:56 PM (NWr1F)

104 The left's notion that Trump voters are unhappy with what he is doing is perplexing...because he is doing what he campaigned on.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 02, 2025 01:48 PM (t0Rmr)


One of the top Leftist fantasies since January 20th is that Trump supporters will quickly be hurt by Trump's evil efforts as much as, or more than, Leftists, causing the MAGAs to despair, go bankrupt, and commit suicide.

Posted by: Parallelepipeds at May 02, 2025 01:56 PM (aBgBM)

105 Parallels
.....

Sounds suspiciously like Math.

Posted by: wth at May 02, 2025 01:56 PM (v0R5T)

106 "Mohammedan" sounds like a word that might work well in a limerick.

Posted by: Hint, hint at May 02, 2025 01:56 PM (zWqtv)

107 The left's notion that Trump voters are unhappy with what he is doing is perplexing...because he is doing what he campaigned on.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 02, 2025 01:48 PM (t0Rmr)



They're just used to politicians that don't do anything they campaigned on.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 02, 2025 01:57 PM (Zz0t1)

108 The left's notion that Trump voters are unhappy with what he is doing is perplexing...because he is doing what he campaigned on.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 02, 2025 01:48 PM (t0Rmr)

They have no sense of individuality.

They communicate in the one mode that they are used to being effective with their own mouthbreathers, and they expect it to work on everyone.

They think everyone who is not in their bubble is an NPC that can be reprogrammed by their "messaging." It is amusing to see them continually perplexed over individual exercises of free thought and will.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 02, 2025 01:57 PM (i24o9)

109 Draftees get the choice of 3 years actual military discipline with enhanced UCMJ requirements or 3 years digging the Great Dignity Canal with spoons.

Sure. First draftees ? Everyone that supported having a draft. Regardless of age. No exemptions.

Would hate to cheat them all out of such an opportunity.

Posted by: Fast Eddy Felson at May 02, 2025 01:57 PM (McYvC)

110 They really believed they could Gaslight their will on us, because they think we're 1) stupid, 2) gullible, 3) afraid of them, and 4) impressed with celebrity.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 01:54 PM (vc0YZ)

They did it with Obama, riding the wave cast by the emancipation proclamation, civil rights, MLK, fixing racism (all republican shit btw) etc.... and knowing to their core what a faggy teleprompter reading drug addled fuckup he really is, they got overconfident.

They also expected the Rs would keep playing along. And they were right - but did not foresee Trump.

Posted by: ... at May 02, 2025 01:57 PM (QTr+M)

111

My wife is such a bad cook. If we leave dental floss in the kitchen, the roaches hang themselves

Posted by: Zombie Rodney Dangerfield at May 02, 2025 01:58 PM (5hfjS)

112 Wikipedia -
In his depiction of Muhammad, Dante draws inspiration from medieval Christian views and misconceptions on Muhammad. As stated by historian Karla Mallette, "medieval Christians viewed the historical Muḥammad as a frankly theatrical character." One common allegation laid against Muhammad was that he was an impostor who, in order to satisfy his ambition and his lust, propagated religious teachings that he knew to be false.
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Those silly medieval Christians, what did they know?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 02, 2025 01:58 PM (Dv3i1)

113 108 The left's notion that Trump voters are unhappy with what he is doing is perplexing...because he is doing what he campaigned on.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 02, 2025 01:48 PM (t0Rmr)

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We didn't believe him because Trump lies. Also, we didn't understand because we're dummies, and we didn't know that we'd all be dead because of what Trump was promising.

Since we're all dead or dying now, we must regret it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 01:58 PM (GBKbO)

114 The left's notion that Trump voters are unhappy with what he is doing is perplexing

Well its wishcasting. They are still horrified to find out that they are no, in fact, the great majority of people in the USA. They were completely certain that they had us outnumbered by like 8:1 or more, and we were dying out. That's why they felt completely fine with attacking critics and customers of comics and games and movies and TV etc. Its just a tiny minority, who cares?

Then Trump win by a landslide, which through creative counting they managed to trim down a bit, but still was very commanding. They weren't the huge majority. They weren't even the majority.

So they dream of a time when they are, when all these Trump voters go "OK fine we made a mistake, you were right."

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 01:58 PM (2VST1)

115 The Left argues in abstractions and pejoratives because they can’t argue the truth. Truth immediately or eventually, and both factually and materially proves every argument they make as a lie, leading to a destructive end, sophism, fallacy or outright deception.
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It's the difference between a priori and a posteriori reasoning. The former reasons from pure principle, unsullied by references to the real world. The latter has constant recourse to observation of reality, and so is self-correcting.

See the difference in approach to, e.g., the vagrancy problem. The Left insists on seeing this as a housing problem (despite all evidence to the contrary), whereas the Right sees it as a mental illness and drug abuse problem. Which it is, of course.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 01:58 PM (YqDXo)

116 This compulsion to make parallels are all bull shit. Anyone can pick out what looks similar between two people or situations, and blow them up. That's a good way to learn nothing.

The correct approach would be to next look closely at the differences. Analyze those. But it's not so fun and dramatic, so it rarely gets done.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 02, 2025 01:59 PM (1bNHn)

117 One common allegation laid against Muhammad was that he was an impostor who, in order to satisfy his ambition and his lust, propagated religious teachings that he knew to be false.
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And had sex with children.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 02, 2025 01:59 PM (Zz0t1)

118 Draftees get the choice of 3 years actual military discipline with enhanced UCMJ requirements or 3 years digging the Great Dignity Canal with spoons.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 02, 2025 01:54 PM (y9nCu)


Go with the Starship Troopers scenario. No draft. Anyone can sign up for federal service - not just military. No matter what you do, it sucks... but you earn the right to vote... AFTER you get out.

Want to be a DC drone for 30 years? Fine, no vote until you're out. Want to be a Marine? Fine, no vote until you're out. Don't want to serve at all? Fine, no vote.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 02, 2025 01:59 PM (ExV1e)

119 The "Trump is Hitler" people are ignorant. They have absolutely no idea who Hitler was and what he did. They just know Hitler was bad and so is Trump. I blame the abject state of history today. Just for grins and giggles, I've been asking the techs and nurses at dialysis about what they know about certain individuals and certain historical events. Their ignorance is appalling. And these are not lazy, low intelligence people. They simply had lazy, ignorant history teachers. For example, one tech told me her high school history teacher told her class to read the book while he sat at his desk eating a bag of potato chips before falling asleep.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at May 02, 2025 02:00 PM (xoECP)

120 As a general proposition, I don't disagree with the idea of a draft...as in 3 years or so of service in the military at some capacity. A small amount of payback for living in the USA isn't too much to ask.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 02, 2025 01:36 PM (iJfKG)

Singificantly disagree.

I don't care what your reason for being there is, but if you're watching my back in a fight, I need you to HAVE a reason for being there.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at May 02, 2025 02:00 PM (rUU8O)

121 It's 62 degrees in North Texas. On May 2nd......we're normally in the 90's by now.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 02, 2025 01:54 PM (Zz0t1)


The 90s are waiting for you to let your guard down... then they pounce.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 02, 2025 02:00 PM (ExV1e)

122 One common allegation laid against Muhammad was that he was an impostor who, in order to satisfy his ambition and his lust, propagated religious teachings that he knew to be false.

Yeah that is where they got it wrong. He really was dumb and ignorant enough to think what he said was true. He believed all his BS.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 02:00 PM (2VST1)

123 98 The more I read bout the Institute of Peace the more ghastly it becomes. They deleted TERABYTES of data when they were breached by the feds, now recovered by the FBI.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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Hey, let's protest Telsa in order to try to keep more of this stuff from being exposed!

Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 02, 2025 02:00 PM (Dv3i1)

124 Pantera almost set off another revolution in Russia in 1991.
Took The Black Crows to put that crowd to sleep after their set.
Then Metallica really neutered them.

Posted by: Reforger at May 02, 2025 02:01 PM (xcIvR)

125 A reasonable precis of my senior thesis from 40 years ago. I forecasted the end of the Soviet empire. I did not suppose that we would become Soviet.
Posted by: San Franpsycho
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The pattern is common in failing empires and states across time, history, and geography--there are too many vested interests to allow any reformer to act in time to stop the fall.

It is actually far more common for failing systems to resort to external wars (which they lose) or civil wars within than reform.

The US failure was going to be overspending to the point of formal or informal default on its debt, loss of reserve currency status, and have no native industries sufficient to stave off a truly massive decline in US living standards.

It usually takes over 20-30 years to recover from sovereign debt failure at a minimum and some, like Argentina, were locked into a cycle of economic destruction for about a century.

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2025 02:01 PM (ctrM5)

126

My wife wants sex in the back of the car and she want's me to drive

Posted by: Zombie Rodney Dangerfield at May 02, 2025 02:01 PM (5hfjS)

127 Go with the Starship Troopers scenario. No draft. Anyone can sign up for federal service - not just military. No matter what you do, it sucks... but you earn the right to vote... AFTER you get out.

IIRC - non-citizens also did not pay taxes.

Posted by: Fast Eddy Felson at May 02, 2025 02:01 PM (McYvC)

128 The "Trump is Hitler" people are ignorant. They have absolutely no idea who Hitler was and what he did. They just know Hitler was bad and so is Trump.

Yeah they know that Hitler was a really bad guy when bad things were happening. Not who he was, what he believed in, how he ran things, etc, just: bad guy.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 02:01 PM (2VST1)

129 Trump could use a little Stalin... just a little so his detractors could reasonable accuse him of literally liquidating his political enemies. Then they would not say it anymore because they too would be liquidated... like a frog in a blender.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 02, 2025 02:02 PM (hnv2E)

130
They also expected the Rs would keep playing along. And they were right - but did not foresee Trump.
Posted by: ...


Correct. The obama years were supposed to finalize converting the Republican party into the UK Conservative party -- a lame, center-left speedbump for the far-left party.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 02:02 PM (vc0YZ)

131
Hey, let's protest Telsa in order to try to keep more of this stuff from being exposed!
Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 02, 2025 02:00 PM (Dv3i1)




That's a great idea for a song!!!

Posted by: Neil Young at May 02, 2025 02:02 PM (Zz0t1)

132 105 Parallels
.....

Sounds suspiciously like Math.

Posted by: wth at May 02, 2025 01:56 PM (v0R5T)


it's jyahmahtree

Posted by: Gref at May 02, 2025 02:02 PM (aBgBM)

133
Yeah that is where they got it wrong. He really was dumb and ignorant enough to think what he said was true. He believed all his BS.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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Not certain he existed as such, unlike Jesus Christ,which has contemporaneous outside evidence that he lived.

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2025 02:02 PM (ctrM5)

134 The more I read bout the Institute of Peace the more ghastly it becomes. They deleted TERABYTES of data when they were breached by the feds, now recovered by the FBI.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 01:54 PM (2VST1)
________________

Can you say mens rea? I can.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 02:03 PM (YqDXo)

135 If you want to have some mandatory service period for the yoots then have them dig a dignity canal.

How about mandatory service for middle aged men that like the idea of mandatory service for teens ? Its easy to talk about the service somebody else has to provide.
Posted by: Fast Eddy Felson at May 02, 2025 01:52 PM (McYvC)


OMG! It's the 60s all over again. Yes, of course, because all the great militaries of history used old, middle aged men as their spear point.🙄

I went into the Navy for a few years. Not my first choice but it didn't kill me, nor did it slow me down. But, life happens.

Again, however, let me reemphasize as in my original point, that I don't think it should happen because its implementation would suck. In that regard it's like "free trade". Great idea, lousy in reality.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 02, 2025 02:03 PM (iJfKG)

136
Trump could use a little Stalin... just a little so his detractors could reasonable accuse him of literally liquidating his political enemies.

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Alpenstocks! Getcher alpenstocks right here!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 02, 2025 02:03 PM (QnmlO)

137 Finally!

San Francisco is seriously premiering a musical to celebrate Luigi Mangione

https://shorturl.at/t38oi

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Bang bang, I shot him down
Bang bang, he hit the ground
Bang bang, that socialist sound
Bang bang, me, baby, shot him down

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Elephants and Earthquakes! at May 02, 2025 02:03 PM (L/fGl)

138
Can you say mens rea? I can.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 02:03 PM (YqDXo)



WOMENS REA!!!!!

Posted by: LGBTQ at May 02, 2025 02:03 PM (Zz0t1)

139

“I also think there are prices too high to pay to save the United States. Conscription is one of them. Conscription is slavery, and I don't think that any people or nation has a right to save itself at the price of slavery for anyone, no matter what name it is called. We have had the draft for twenty years now; I think this is shameful. If a country can't save itself through the volunteer service of its own free people, then I say: Let the damned thing go down the drain!”
― Robert Heinlein

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 02, 2025 02:04 PM (63Dwl)

140 Mussulmen

Mussulmen is just a misheard version of Muslim, the name I was objecting to.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 02, 2025 02:04 PM (VphID)

141 They also expected the Rs would keep playing along. And they were right - but did not foresee Trump.
Posted by: ...
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Cometh the hour, cometh the man.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 02:04 PM (YqDXo)

142 That part of the Quran that made no sense? Well.. Shaytan tricked me into writing that bit!

Yes.. that’ll hold up..

Posted by: Mohammed at May 02, 2025 02:04 PM (l3YAf)

143
I mean, I can already tell you, with 100% confidence, they will tell us this was the "hottest year on record."

And, I can tell you that 2026 will also be the "hottest year on record."

People are sick of this PREDICTABLE gaslighting bullshit. The Left overplayed their hand.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 02:04 PM (vc0YZ)

144 That part of the Quran that made no sense? Well.. Shaytan tricked me into writing that bit!

Yes.. that’ll hold up..
Posted by: Mohammed at May 02, 2025 02:04 PM (l3YAf)



Part?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 02, 2025 02:04 PM (Zz0t1)

145 The parallels with Spain circa 1935 were compelling until the Orange Man was re-elected.

Now I'm much more optimistic.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 01:38 PM (YqDXo)


———

I read AH Lloyd’s book “Long Live Death” about the Spanish Civil War and it has very eerie parallels when the Spanish Leftists gained control of the government.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 02, 2025 02:04 PM (kR/iT)

146

I told my wife that a man, a man is like fine wine, he gets better with age. She locked me in the cellar

Posted by: Zombie Rodney Dangerfield at May 02, 2025 02:05 PM (5hfjS)

147 On that interview with the DOGE team, Elon points out that they are being helped by a number of Federal employees. He said there are good hard working employees that have wanted changes for years.

They managed to get the retirement process out of the mine and online. He talked about one employee having a pallet of retirement papers at the mine.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 02, 2025 02:05 PM (cvWHI)

148 Part?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 02, 2025 02:04 PM (Zz0t1)

If I were a better writer I might not have to resort to beheading people so much..

Posted by: Mohammed at May 02, 2025 02:06 PM (l3YAf)

149 OMG! It's the 60s all over again. Yes, of course, because all the great militaries of history used old, middle aged men as their spear point.

There's always the Dignity Canal and the spoon. Think of the honor of being able to serve your country.

Posted by: Fast Eddy Felson at May 02, 2025 02:07 PM (McYvC)

150
But those post-election 2008 polls were some ballsy shit.

Why would obama have 65% approval before Day 1??
Why would so many people who Did NOT Want obama to be president suddenly "approve" of the job he was doing before he was even doing it??

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 02:07 PM (vc0YZ)

151 Not certain he existed as such, unlike Jesus Christ,which has contemporaneous outside evidence that he lived.

Yeah Muhammad probably lived, but the historical support is extremely sketchy. Basically all the fans of the Quran are the only sources. But I think he was a real dude who was nuts and inbred.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 02:08 PM (2VST1)

152 Just for grins and giggles, I've been asking the techs and nurses at dialysis about what they know about certain individuals and certain historical events. Their ignorance is appalling.
________________

A neighbor had never heard of George Soros. Amazing.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 02:08 PM (YqDXo)

153 Trump is someone who is seemingly always satisfied with himself. I think that’s what they really hate about him most.
Posted by: H at May 02, 2025 01:51 PM (9XdxT)

Then why did they adore Barky? That man oozed smugness. Dana Carvey? had an impersonation that to me was perfect. It was Barky as the very smug college professor type.

Posted by: PaleRider at May 02, 2025 02:09 PM (bP/i4)

154 119 Just for grins and giggles, I've been asking the techs and nurses at dialysis about what they know about certain individuals and certain historical events. Their ignorance is appalling. And these are not lazy, low intelligence people. They simply had lazy, ignorant history teachers. For example, one tech told me her high school history teacher told her class to read the book while he sat at his desk eating a bag of potato chips before falling asleep.
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at May 02, 2025 02:00 PM (xoECP)

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"Yeah, but do you know about the guy who was kind of important to the Stonewall riots? It's like you don't know anything!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 02:09 PM (GBKbO)

155 A neighbor had never heard of George Soros. Amazing.

Smug radio lib here mocked the idea of a social credit score in China.

Posted by: Fast Eddy Felson at May 02, 2025 02:09 PM (McYvC)

156 Yeah Muhammad probably lived, but the historical support is extremely sketchy. Basically all the fans of the Quran are the only sources. But I think he was a real dude who was nuts and inbred.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 02:08 PM (2VST1)
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Probably because Mo and his followers were largely illiterate, and so there is precious little written record from that time.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 02:09 PM (YqDXo)

157 @98 the Institute for Peace may actually have been helping run drugs from Afghanistan to Europe and the US. Good reason to try and delete data

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 02, 2025 02:09 PM (Er3Q7)

158
There's always the Dignity Canal and the spoon.

__________

And the fishhead soup and sawdust bread. Yum!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 02, 2025 02:10 PM (QnmlO)

159 “If a country can't save itself through the volunteer service of its own free people, then I say: Let the damned thing go down the drain!”
― Robert Heinlein

***

Now, for several hundred pages where I fantasize about banging my own mom..

Posted by: Robert Heinlein at May 02, 2025 02:10 PM (l3YAf)

160 Correct. The obama years were supposed to finalize converting the Republican party into the UK Conservative party -- a lame, center-left speedbump for the far-left party.
Posted by: Soothsayer

Also. They all bought into demography destination.

Got a bit fat, dumb and happy.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at May 02, 2025 02:10 PM (FxH7T)

161 116 This compulsion to make parallels are all bull shit. Anyone can pick out what looks similar between two people or situations, and blow them up. That's a good way to learn nothing.

The correct approach would be to next look closely at the differences. Analyze those. But it's not so fun and dramatic, so it rarely gets done.
Posted by: Eeyore
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You would actually be wrong. Most comparable cases, case studies, and comparative systems analysis work in the absence of any effective statistical means for small n analysis. So you get most similar cases, most divergent cases, cases involving same historical milieu, and so on. In this case, the dependent variable is reformer and the independent variable is the system to be reformed. So in that particular analysis--Gorbachev, Alexander II, or any other reformer of a vast territorial government might work in comparison.

So,while you do not consider what Mannix has done to be useful, others might differ.

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2025 02:10 PM (ctrM5)

162 Finally!

San Francisco is seriously premiering a musical to celebrate Luigi Mangione

https://shorturl.at/t38oi
...
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Elephants and Earthquakes! at May 02, 2025 02:03 PM (L/fGl)
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I'm genuinely shocked it took this long.

On the plus side, they don't seem to be going for much realism:
The play will also depict Diddy and Sam Bankman-Fried locked up in prison with Luigi.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2025 02:10 PM (WkNQM)

163
"Recovery"

On January 21, 2009, the Fake News couldn't stop telling us we were in economic "recovery."

All of a sudden, we're in an economic "recovery," with no economic metrics to support that claim. The obama narrative was thick in Lies & Gaslighting.

What's worse is that obama made the Economy worse! But we were in a "recovery."

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 02:10 PM (vc0YZ)

164 They're just used to politicians that don't do anything they campaigned on.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 02, 2025 01:57 PM (Zz0t1)

That came up in the first Trump administration. I think it was Pelosi who asked him why he was doing something. Her response to being told it was because he'd campaigned on that issue was "But that was just a campaign promise!" Pretty clear that most pols think the term is synonymous with "lie" and are deeply confused and concerned by anyone who actually does what they said they would.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 02, 2025 02:10 PM (lFFaq)

165 Probably because Mo and his followers were largely illiterate, and so there is precious little written record from that time.

I am kind of surprised no Jewish writers mention him and his failed attempt to sack Jerusalem etc.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 02:11 PM (2VST1)

166 The various ARP districts up here are in the process of kicking Ms. Murkowski out of the party. At long last. Her rampant TDS is the last straw. They cite the fact that she does not share a single plank with her party and that she is constantly an embarrassment as the reasons. This isn't just censure, but actually denying her the party for any reason, including that little R behind her name, and all of the money, of course.

Maybe this time it will stick. That, coupled with the current bill by our Congressman to disallow RCV for federal elections, and she might just get the boot.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 02, 2025 02:11 PM (a4NoL)

167 166 The various ARP districts up here are in the process of kicking Ms. Murkowski out of the party. At long last. Her rampant TDS is the last straw. They cite the fact that she does not share a single plank with her party and that she is constantly an embarrassment as the reasons. This isn't just censure, but actually denying her the party for any reason, including that little R behind her name, and all of the money, of course.

Maybe this time it will stick. That, coupled with the current bill by our Congressman to disallow RCV for federal elections, and she might just get the boot.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 02, 2025 02:11 PM (a4NoL)

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3 years too late.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 02:12 PM (GBKbO)

168
San Francisco is seriously premiering a musical to celebrate Luigi Mangione

_________

Who's next? The Brinks robbers?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 02, 2025 02:12 PM (QnmlO)

169 154 119 Just for grins and giggles, I've been asking the techs and nurses at dialysis about what they know about certain individuals and certain historical events. Their ignorance is appalling. And these are not lazy, low intelligence people. They simply had lazy, ignorant history teachers. For example, one tech told me her high school history teacher told her class to read the book while he sat at his desk eating a bag of potato chips before falling asleep.
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin
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Social studies teachers tend to be either ideologues that cannot cut it to be professors or they are coaches.

Only slightly better at the collegiate level as myopia in analyses by overspecialization of academics and more glib ideologues flourish.

I get accused of that periodically myself, lol.

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2025 02:12 PM (ctrM5)

170 Why would obama have 65% approval before Day 1??
Why would so many people who Did NOT Want obama to be president suddenly "approve" of the job he was doing before he was even doing it??

Posted by: Soothsayer

Yore at a bar hitting on a hot chick and she asks if you voted for Obama. What's your answer?

Plus the whole white guilt thing.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at May 02, 2025 02:13 PM (FxH7T)

171 The Golden Scalp Weasel
vs
The BirthMark that ate Minsk

Posted by: DaveA at May 02, 2025 02:13 PM (FhXTo)

172 I am kind of surprised no Jewish writers mention him and his failed attempt to sack Jerusalem etc.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 02:11 PM (2VST1)

I think you will find most of Mo's exploits are overblown in the record. He was a grubby little warlord with epilepsy, and a sexual deviant who convinced folks he was somehow morally superior to all of them. Kinda like democrats today. Not a reliable narrator, at all.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 02, 2025 02:13 PM (a4NoL)

173 It's 62 degrees in North Texas. On May 2nd......we're normally in the 90's by now.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 02, 2025 01:54 PM (Zz0t1)

Not far short of that here in my corner of Alberta. Sun is shining, the grass is riz, but I know where my mower is.

News! Got an e-mail from my MP, Damien Kurek, who has ably represented my riding for several years. He is stepping down from his seat, so that Pierre Poilievre, leader of the conservative party, who lost his own seat in Ottawa-Carleton, can run to replace him. Kurek won with something like 95% of the vote, so his was about the safest seat in Canada for this to be done.

I am going to try to get some face time with PP, since he will be campaigning here, and give him a ration of shit for having blown Monday's election, and some suggestions for turning it around.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 02, 2025 02:13 PM (PFfVQ)

174 I like this comparison. Biggest problem is Gorby just faded away and I sure hope Trump does not do that.

Posted by: scottst at May 02, 2025 02:14 PM (u00su)

175 I hadn't thought of it like that. Very interesting. Food for thought. Hopefully Trump has better luck ...

Posted by: Greybeard Represent at May 02, 2025 02:14 PM (jgRaQ)

176 92 Sponge let's give Barron a few years to bird dog chicks and bang beaver.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 02, 2025 02:14 PM (wBaIH)

177 So,while you do not consider what Mannix has done to be useful, others might differ.

I read the entire thing. Boosting my career reading of the content by about 40%.

Posted by: Fast Eddy Felson at May 02, 2025 02:14 PM (McYvC)

178 But those post-election 2008 polls were some ballsy shit.

Why would obama have 65% approval before Day 1??
Why would so many people who Did NOT Want obama to be president suddenly "approve" of the job he was doing before he was even doing it??
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 02:07 PM (vc0YZ)
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I could see it as very possibly being legitimate, at least insofar as polling ever is.

Obama 1.0 was ludicrously active before his administration started. From inventing "The Office of the President-Elect" to being allowed in to decision making by Bush 43 (what an idiotic move), an outgoing president who started moving pieces for him to hit the ground running as soon as he was inaugurated, lots of legwork done in advance so he could put a bow on it (like the GM bailout, which happened after the first 100 days but much with huge amounts of prep prior to his taking office), etc.

Obama was given an *extremely* smooth transition by Bush 43 and essentially took over before he was sworn in, with the press cheering every step of the way.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2025 02:14 PM (WkNQM)

179 The left's notion that Trump voters are unhappy with what he is doing is perplexing...because he is doing what he campaigned on.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 02, 2025 01:48 PM (t0Rmr)
______________

It's because they are unhappy with what he's doing, and they can't imagine anyone not sharing their perspective.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara


Exactly. Because I'm happier than a pig in shit with what he's doing.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 02, 2025 02:14 PM (vs3rY)

180
I am going to try to get some face time with PP, since he will be campaigning here, and give him a ration of shit for having blown Monday's election, and some suggestions for turning it around.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 02, 2025 02:13 PM (PFfVQ)



Go AOP go!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 02, 2025 02:15 PM (Zz0t1)

181
obama's fake approval numbers were high, very high, while the Economy was getting worse.

His "stimulus" was an unpopular joke, but he still had high 50's approvals. Sure, Jan.

The only negative "media" obama got for the first year was Rush Limbaugh. God Bless Rush Limbaugh. Long live Rush Limbaugh.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 02:15 PM (vc0YZ)

182 165 Probably because Mo and his followers were largely illiterate, and so there is precious little written record from that time.

I am kind of surprised no Jewish writers mention him and his failed attempt to sack Jerusalem etc.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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There were also Byzantines and Persians around with plenty of scribes at the time near to supposed events in Mo's life.

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2025 02:15 PM (ctrM5)

183 I like this comparison. Biggest problem is Gorby just faded away and I sure hope Trump does not do that.
Posted by: scottst at May 02, 2025 02:14 PM (u00su)
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Or, if he does, he does so in a better place than San Francisco...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2025 02:15 PM (WkNQM)

184 Obama was given an *extremely* smooth transition by Bush 43 and essentially took over before he was sworn in, with the press cheering every step of the way.
Posted by: Joe Mannix


Proof 43 was a fucking commie.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 02, 2025 02:16 PM (vs3rY)

185 184 Proof 43 was a fucking commie.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 02, 2025 02:16 PM (vs3rY)

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Medicare Part D not enough of a clue?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 02:16 PM (GBKbO)

186 *The BirthMark that ate Minsk*

It's a long way from Milan to Minsk.

Posted by: Obligatory Seinfeld reference at May 02, 2025 02:16 PM (zWqtv)

187 I am going to try to get some face time with PP, since he will be campaigning here, and give him a ration of shit for having blown Monday's election, and some suggestions for turning it around.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
_____

See if you can get him the (rumored to exist) Ace of Spades Platinum Membership

Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 02, 2025 02:16 PM (Dv3i1)

188 "Forty-one forty or fight!"

Posted by: Famous Parallels at May 02, 2025 02:16 PM (77rzZ)

189 Medicare Part D not enough of a clue?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 02:16 PM (GBKbO)
++++
Or becoming the bulldog to get Kennedy's "No Child Left Behind" rammed through...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2025 02:17 PM (WkNQM)

190 Does Trump's New $1.32 Trillion Budget Contain Cash For Ukraine War? Indeed it does. Disguised. Redirected. Rebranded.

They have taken what was once direct congressional military aid, and now cloaked it in the garments of “strategic investment” and resource-backed agreements.

Instead of requesting billions in taxpayer-funded aid for Ukraine (which the public now resists), it’s engineered as a minerals-for-weapons trade model. This allows for US arms, training, and "support services" to be sent on credit against future mineral profits extracted from Ukraine. ( TO BE SENT ON CREDIT AGAINST FUTURE MINERAL PROFITS).

And who controls the profits? A shared investment fund… with Washington insiders and defense contractors sitting at the table. This is a geopolitical end-run right around both Congress and the American People.

Trump will say, “we’re not giving away money. We’re making a deal. They’re paying us… in natural resources.”

But it’s the same game. Enrich defense contractors. Extend US military-industrial influence. Keep war economies humming.

Posted by: For What It's Worth at May 02, 2025 02:17 PM (PWZG1)

191 The left is both wishcasting and trying to demoralize Trump voters with their push polls and propaganda. People have just stopped listening to them. After four years of insanity under Biden people aren't swayed by emotional blackmail or screaming.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 02, 2025 02:17 PM (Er3Q7)

192 ++++
Or becoming the bulldog to get Kennedy's "No Child Left Behind" rammed through...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2025 02:17 PM (WkNQM)



Fool me once, shame on you.....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 02, 2025 02:17 PM (Zz0t1)

193 Gorby’s story ended on a happy note. He got to make commercials for Pizza Hut.

Posted by: Robert Heinlein at May 02, 2025 02:18 PM (l3YAf)

194 The parallels with Spain circa 1935 were compelling until the Orange Man was re-elected.

Now I'm much more optimistic.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
__________

I don't think it's so much Trump's election that sets it apart as the ongoing self-inflicted implosion of the left. Nothing like that happened in Spain.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at May 02, 2025 02:18 PM (UBKzV)

195 189 Medicare Part D not enough of a clue?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 02:16 PM (GBKbO)
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Or becoming the bulldog to get Kennedy's "No Child Left Behind" rammed through...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2025 02:17 PM (WkNQM)

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He was gonna be the education president.

Fuck 1990s GOP...what the hell?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 02:18 PM (GBKbO)

196 *Long live Rush Limbaugh.*

"I hope he fails."

Posted by: Awesomely courageous broadcasting at May 02, 2025 02:18 PM (zWqtv)

197 Chimpy McHitler.. remember that?

Posted by: tubal at May 02, 2025 02:18 PM (PCK5/)

198 This busty brunette in a dress has no idea who Gorbachev was, but thinks she might have heard of Donald Trump:
http://tiny.cc/pmhi001

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2025 02:19 PM (WkNQM)

199 San Francisco is seriously premiering a musical to celebrate Luigi Mangione
_______________

What next? An ode to John Wilkes Booth? To Lee Harvey Oswald?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 02:19 PM (YqDXo)

200 Probably because Mo and his followers were largely illiterate, and so there is precious little written record from that time.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Plenty of outside observers. Much of what the Koran says about Mo is contradictory and thus the reliance on folk wisdom. Islam, particularly in Saudi land, also has a tendency to strongly discourage any attempts at actual historical studies and archaeology digs that might disprove or weaken the authority of the Koran.

Internet is beginning to act as a corrosive on those contradictions in the Koran as well.

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2025 02:19 PM (ctrM5)

201 Gorby’s story ended on a happy note. He got to make commercials for Pizza Hut.
Posted by: Robert Heinlein at May 02, 2025 02:18 PM (l3YAf)



Extra pepperoni means the boy's got hair on his balls.

Posted by: John Podesta at May 02, 2025 02:19 PM (Zz0t1)

202 Heinlein would really, really like Pr0nHub.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 02, 2025 02:19 PM (l3YAf)

203 "I hope he fails."

All the people who were horrified by that line are screaming for Trump to not just fail but DIE SCREAMING now.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 02:19 PM (2VST1)

204 San Francisco is seriously premiering a musical to celebrate Luigi Mangione

_________

Who's next? The Brinks robbers?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

The Zodiac.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Elephants and Earthquakes! at May 02, 2025 02:20 PM (L/fGl)

205 All the people who were horrified by that line are screaming for Trump to not just fail but DIE SCREAMING now.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 02:19 PM (2VST1)
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Well, sure. But Trump is, like, really super duper bad.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2025 02:20 PM (WkNQM)

206 82 Anyone who tries to draft me or force me to do mandatory national service is going to get the Reservoir Dogs treatment,

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 02, 2025 01:51 PM (l3YAf)

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They'll be forced to be in a vastly overrated movie directed by a foot-sniffing pervert?

Posted by: The_Hoser at May 02, 2025 02:20 PM (f4jia)

207 Chimpy McHitler.. remember that?
Posted by: tubal at May 02, 2025 02:18 PM (PCK5/)



Wasn't it Chimpy McBusHitler?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 02, 2025 02:20 PM (Zz0t1)

208

My wife, ahh my wife. My wife's jealousy is getting ridiculous. The other day she looked at my calendar and wanted to know who May was

Posted by: Zombie Rodney Dangerfield at May 02, 2025 02:20 PM (5hfjS)

209
"I hope he fails."
Posted by: Awesomely courageous broadcasting


Republicans joined Democrats in condemning Rush for that.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 02:20 PM (vc0YZ)

210 Or, if he does, he does so in a better place than San Francisco...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
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I think Kerensky ended up in California to live out his life and Krushchev's son went to New England. Not sure where Svetlana ended up.

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2025 02:21 PM (ctrM5)

211 They'll be forced to be in a vastly overrated movie directed by a foot-sniffing pervert?
Posted by: The_Hoser at May 02, 2025 02:20 PM (f4jia)

Exactly. Be afraid.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 02, 2025 02:21 PM (l3YAf)

212 A neighbor had never heard of George Soros. Amazing.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

I asked a woman at work the other day how she was doing and she said that she was very stressed. I made the mistake of asking her why and she told me that now, American citizens that were born here are receiving emails saying that they are being deported. OMG. Do you know how hard it was to keep from laughing at her in her face? I asked her, where they were being deported to? The town that they were born in? Oh, and who was sending these emails out? etc. She got flustered at these questions and quickly said goodbye and scampered off. Another person I need to avoid at work. I am waiting for my email telling me that I am being deported to Reno, NV.

Posted by: Cheri at May 02, 2025 02:21 PM (oiNtH)

213 Islam, particularly in Saudi land, also has a tendency to strongly discourage any attempts at actual historical studies and archaeology digs that might disprove or weaken the authority of the Koran.

There are many very old copies of the Quran in various places, but everyone is absolutely forbidden to look at them, let alone study. Copies hidden in Africa and Iraq and other places, from the 6th century. I strongly suspect they have tremendous variations that would be hilarious to reveal.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 02:21 PM (2VST1)

214 207

Chimpy McHitler.. remember that?
Posted by: tubal at May 02, 2025 02:18 PM (PCK5/)


Wasn't it Chimpy McBusHitler?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 02, 2025 02:20 PM (Zz0t1)

Yes it was... my apologies for the Disinformation...

Posted by: tubal at May 02, 2025 02:21 PM (PCK5/)

215
Republicans joined Democrats in condemning Rush for that.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 02:20 PM (vc0YZ)



Because most Republicans, by and large, suck.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 02, 2025 02:22 PM (Zz0t1)

216
Yes it was... my apologies for the Disinformation...
Posted by: tubal at May 02, 2025 02:21 PM (PCK5/)



Everybody makes mistakes.

Carry on.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 02, 2025 02:22 PM (Zz0t1)

217
I think it was then (2009) when I said, here, "The only time Republicans express public disapproval if someone is when it's directed at a Republican."

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 02:22 PM (vc0YZ)

218 What next? An ode to John Wilkes Booth? To Lee Harvey Oswald?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Already been done. Stephen Sondheim wrote a musical about presidential assassins.

Entitled "Assassins," of course.

Posted by: Bulg at May 02, 2025 02:22 PM (77rzZ)

219 Found this out today. "This week, the Trump Administration dismissed the staff and authors of the Sixth National Climate Assessment (NCA), a collaborative effort of more than 400 scientists taking stock of the state of the climate and its impact across sectors of U.S. society.

This is from an AMS email. Of course in their mind Trump is attacking science by this action. They don't understand that they sold out science to chase grant money with the grants written by people who just wanted a club to hurt America specifically and the 'West' generally.

Posted by: PaleRider at May 02, 2025 02:23 PM (bP/i4)

220 San Francisco is seriously premiering a musical to celebrate Luigi Mangione

My naaaame's Luigi Mangione
I killa da man
I killa da man
I diiiiiiidn't killa him with da macaroni
I use-a gun
Right inna my hand
Who knew, you shoota man,
You go to prison
It's news to me
Because you see,
I killa him for socialist reason
I shoulda go free
I shoulda go free
Click, click, Bang-bang
Richa man, he's dead
I do a dance-a
When I shota him inna da head
So, set me free!
Listen to me!
Cuz if you don'ta
This I saaaaay-
When I getta out
I'ma shoot you anyway!

Posted by: naturalfake at May 02, 2025 02:23 PM (iJfKG)

221 Cherish that is sadly funny, but shows there are Leftists Propaganda Ministry pumping out lies

Posted by: Skip at May 02, 2025 02:23 PM (ypFCm)

222 Assassination Chic..

Posted by: tubal at May 02, 2025 02:24 PM (PCK5/)

223

My wife had her drivers test the other day. She got 8 out of 10. The other two guys jumped clear

Posted by: Zombie Rodney Dangerfield at May 02, 2025 02:24 PM (5hfjS)

224 I don't think it's so much Trump's election that sets it apart as the ongoing self-inflicted implosion of the left. Nothing like that happened in Spain.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at May 02, 2025 02:18 PM (UBKzV)
________________

I think the Left has imploded largely because of Trump. A proximate trigger of the Spanish Civil War was the assassination of Calvo Sotelo. The difference is that the Left's attempt(s) to assassinate Trump mercifully have not succeeded. So far, and God willing, will never succeed.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 02:24 PM (YqDXo)

225
Gorby’s story ended on a happy note. He got to make commercials for Pizza Hut.

He could have done Wendy's commercials.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 02, 2025 02:24 PM (63Dwl)

226 Radical leftists really romanticize the ideal revolutionary. They lurve them some Che Guevarra because he's not hideous and he really stuck it to the man!!! and homosexuals and black people and everyone else, but we won't talk about that part. Yeah they love Luigi because he stuck it to the man!!!.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 02:24 PM (2VST1)

227 I think Kerensky ended up in California to live out his life and Krushchev's son went to New England. Not sure where Svetlana ended up.
Posted by: whig

Stalin's Svetlana? She died a few years ago, in a nursing home in Wisconsin.

Married an architect who had been a student of Frank Lloyd Wright's.

Posted by: Bulg at May 02, 2025 02:25 PM (77rzZ)

228 I see Jumanji Brown Jackson is out there condemning "people" for criticizing Federal Judges.... Meaning Trump..

Posted by: It's me donna at May 02, 2025 02:25 PM (VE6XX)

229 I request deportation to Orange Beach, AL. FloraBama would also be acceptable.

Posted by: Fast Eddy Felson at May 02, 2025 02:25 PM (McYvC)

230
He could have done Wendy's commercials.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 02, 2025 02:24 PM (63Dwl)



Svimvear!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 02, 2025 02:26 PM (Zz0t1)

231 LiMu Emu... and Gorby

Posted by: tubal at May 02, 2025 02:26 PM (PCK5/)

232 This is from an AMS email. Of course in their mind Trump is attacking science by this action. They don't understand that they sold out science to chase grant money with the grants written by people who just wanted a club to hurt America specifically and the 'West' generally.
Posted by: PaleRider at May 02, 2025 02:23 PM (bP/i4)
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Climatologists have only themselves to blame and I hope there's more coming.

Climatology was a legitimate scientific field once. Not for a long time. It not only has no value, it has negative value. It runs on deceit.

C'mon, Don. Shut down NOAA next. Send the "O" part to its own agency and just close out the "A" part. If the "Atmospheric" part does anything useful unrelated to climatology, reorganize the remnants into a new agency.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2025 02:26 PM (WkNQM)

233 229 I request deportation to Orange Beach, AL. FloraBama would also be acceptable.
Posted by: Fast Eddy Felson at May 02, 2025 02:25 PM (McYvC)

Darn.. I already live in the town I was born in.. Can I request Aruba ?

Posted by: It's me donna at May 02, 2025 02:26 PM (VE6XX)

234 Good morning, morons.


Hanging in there. Super sore, hurts to cough or sneeze, bend, lift, twist or use my left arm.

My heart is good though, thank God.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 02, 2025 02:26 PM (igX5u)

235 > Found this out today. "This week, the Trump Administration dismissed the staff and authors of the Sixth National Climate Assessment (NCA), a collaborative effort of more than 400 scientists taking stock of the state of the climate and its impact across sectors of U.S. society.
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A former environmental lab director at NOAA who I used to work for was tapped for NCA years ago. A real dickhead. This makes me happy.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 02, 2025 02:26 PM (Q4IgG)

236
What next? An ode to John Wilkes Booth? To Lee Harvey Oswald?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 02:19 PM (YqDXo)



Way ahead of you, buddy.

Posted by: Zombie Stephen Sondheim at May 02, 2025 02:27 PM (y9nCu)

237 Stalin's Svetlana? She died a few years ago, in a nursing home in Wisconsin.

Married an architect who had been a student of Frank Lloyd Wright's.
Posted by: Bulg at May 02, 2025 02:25 PM (77rzZ)
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Her daughter is living in Portland.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at May 02, 2025 02:27 PM (6YdsJ)

238
Hanging in there. Super sore, hurts to cough or sneeze, bend, lift, twist or use my left arm.

My heart is good though, thank God.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 02, 2025 02:26 PM (igX5u)



*gentle hugs*

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 02, 2025 02:27 PM (Zz0t1)

239 172 I am kind of surprised no Jewish writers mention him and his failed attempt to sack Jerusalem etc.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 02:11 PM (2VST1)

I think you will find most of Mo's exploits are overblown in the record. He was a grubby little warlord with epilepsy, and a sexual deviant who convinced folks he was somehow morally superior to all of them. Kinda like democrats today. Not a reliable narrator, at all.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 02, 2025 02:13 PM (a4NoL)


The Koran is often so obtuse that verbal explanations and amplifications by (supposedly) Mohammed and some of his top followers, were written-up after Mohammed's death. These are the Hadiths, second only to the Koran in Muslim law. So Mohammed and/or others got two bites at the apple. Lay down the law, then interpret the law. Nice job if you can get it.

Posted by: Gref at May 02, 2025 02:27 PM (aBgBM)

240

I asked my wife on a scale of 1 to 10, how do you rate me as a lover? She said, 'you know I'm no good at fractions'

Posted by: Zombie Rodney Dangerfield at May 02, 2025 02:27 PM (5hfjS)

241 My heart is good though, thank God.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 02, 2025 02:26 PM (igX5u)

So, My advice is to rest....I imagine you know that

Posted by: It's me donna at May 02, 2025 02:28 PM (VE6XX)

242 One of the criticisms against Muhammad when he was alive was that he believed every dumb crazy story that he ever heard and added most of them into his book. Like, the stories of Jesus making birds of clay and bringing them to life as a child, or 300 people who went to sleep in a cave and woke up centuries later. The guy was either the biggest sucker ever or just lazy and added everything to make the book seem bigger and fuller.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 02:28 PM (2VST1)

243 The Left loves murderers, rapists and criminals. Film at 11, 12, 1, 2......

Posted by: ... at May 02, 2025 02:28 PM (QTr+M)

244 San Francisco is seriously premiering a musical to celebrate Luigi Mangione
______________

It's another amazing instance of the Left making a hero out of a shithead. Mangione shot a family man in the back (brave guy), murdering him for no obvious reason, and yet the Reds consider him a hero.

At the same time, they demonized Dan White, who murdered George Moscone and the faggot Harvey Milk, for dicking him around (IIRC, White resigned, and then changed his mind, but Moscone and Milk weren't having it. Btw, White was a Democrat, although the SF Chronicle always characterized him as "conservative." Being in the Bay Area at the time, I was surprised that SF would elect a Republican. Nope.)

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 02:29 PM (YqDXo)

245 Celebrating Luigi Mangione
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Trump is a FEL9N!!!!!!

Posted by: ... at May 02, 2025 02:29 PM (QTr+M)

246 Gorby’s story ended on a happy note. He got to make commercials for Pizza Hut.

He could have done Wendy's commercials.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 02, 2025 02:24 PM (63Dwl)

Voiceover: The other chain’s borscht is mostly water.

Gorby: Where’s the beet??

VO: At Wendy’s, our borscht is made fresh with many beets, every day. That’ll keep you from asking..

Gorby: Where’s the beet!?

Posted by: Russian Wendys commercial, circa 1993 at May 02, 2025 02:29 PM (l3YAf)

247 I see Jumanji Brown Jackson is out there condemning "people" for criticizing Federal Judges.... Meaning Trump..
Posted by: It's me donna

Doesn't surprise me at all that Jumanji doesn't know of or have an understanding of the First Amendment. Or biology.

Posted by: Cheri at May 02, 2025 02:29 PM (oiNtH)

248 Voiceover: The other chain’s borscht is mostly water.

Gorby: Where’s the beet??

VO: At Wendy’s, our borscht is made fresh with many beets, every day. That’ll keep you from asking..

Gorby: Where’s the beet!?
Posted by: Russian Wendys commercial, circa 1993 at May 02, 2025 02:29 PM (l3YAf)
+++++
*snort*

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2025 02:29 PM (WkNQM)

249 My heart is good though, thank God.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 02, 2025 02:26 PM (igX5u)


I am so sorry you hurt! But I am glad your heart is good, I am sure that must of been incredibly scary.

Posted by: Piper at May 02, 2025 02:30 PM (pZEOD)

250 San Francisco is seriously premiering a musical to celebrate Luigi Mangione
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WTF?!?

Posted by: Dzhokhar Tsarnaev at May 02, 2025 02:30 PM (Zz0t1)

251 I’m not at work. Got my toes in the sand watching the mountains and the seagulls and the tide go out.

I love y’all.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 02, 2025 02:30 PM (igX5u)

252 I see Jumanji Brown Jackson is out there condemning "people" for criticizing Federal Judges.... Meaning Trump..

There was an exchange in the court that was kind of hilarious, basically Kagan telling her to shut up and let the attorney talk.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 02:30 PM (2VST1)

253 that I am being deported to Reno, NV.
Posted by: Cheri at May 02, 2025 02:21 PM (oiNtH)

I'd rather be deported to anywhere else.

Posted by: Reforger at May 02, 2025 02:30 PM (xcIvR)

254 My heart is good though, thank God.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 02, 2025 02:26 PM (igX5u)

Thank God, nurse. I hope you feel better soon. You’ll be in my prayers.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 02, 2025 02:30 PM (l3YAf)

255 One of the criticisms against Muhammad when he was alive was that he believed every dumb crazy story that he ever heard and added most of them into his book. Like, the stories of Jesus making birds of clay and bringing them to life as a child, or 300 people who went to sleep in a cave and woke up centuries later. The guy was either the biggest sucker ever or just lazy and added everything to make the book seem bigger and fuller.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 02:28 PM (2VST1)
_____________

My favorite story was Mo's claiming he'd ridden a magic horse from Mecca (Medina?) to Jerusalem and back in one night.

Schizophrenia rules OK.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 02:30 PM (YqDXo)

256 I’m not at work. Got my toes in the sand watching the mountains and the seagulls and the tide go out.

I love y’all.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 02, 2025 02:30 PM (igX5u)
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So you're saying that the tide *isn't* high? No Blondie for you, eh?

Glad you're feeling better!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2025 02:31 PM (WkNQM)

257 219 Found this out today. "This week, the Trump Administration dismissed the staff and authors of the Sixth National Climate Assessment (NCA), a collaborative effort of more than 400 scientists taking stock of the state of the climate and its impact across sectors of U.S. society.

This is from an AMS email. Of course in their mind Trump is attacking science by this action. They don't understand that they sold out science to chase grant money with the grants written by people who just wanted a club to hurt America specifically and the 'West' generally.
Posted by: PaleRider

Duncepack idea (from the old Cold War Densepack idea of nuclear missile placements). Basically, all the actions that Trump is undertaking do not allow the Left to concentrate forces in the media on that object.

Thus moving faster than their media networks can function, their feeble attempts due to ideology end up celebrating and highlighting just what the public does not want (Abrego Garcia for example). If this network got highlighted, I would not be surprised to see some serious embarrassments in plagiarism, sexual harassment, explicit political bias, making up data, etc. committed by these 'scientists'.

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2025 02:31 PM (ctrM5)

258 253 that I am being deported to Reno, NV.
Posted by: Cheri at May 02, 2025 02:21 PM (oiNtH)

I'd rather be deported to anywhere else.
Posted by: Reforger at May 02, 2025 02:30 PM (xcIvR)

=======

At least in Reno you can shoot men just to watch them die.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 02:31 PM (GBKbO)

259
I love y’all.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 02, 2025 02:30 PM (igX5u)



Backatcha, toots!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 02, 2025 02:31 PM (Zz0t1)

260 Nurse, glad to see you back.

Posted by: Pudinhead at May 02, 2025 02:31 PM (pZ64F)

261

My wife was afraid of the dark. Then she saw me naked and now she's afraid of the light

Posted by: Zombie Rodney Dangerfield at May 02, 2025 02:31 PM (5hfjS)

262 253 that I am being deported to Reno, NV.
Posted by: Cheri at May 02, 2025 02:21 PM (oiNtH)

I'd rather be deported to anywhere else.
Posted by: Reforger at May 02, 2025 02:30 PM (xcIvR)

You've never been to St. Louis have you??

Posted by: tubal at May 02, 2025 02:31 PM (PCK5/)

263 Posted by: nurse ratched at May 02, 2025 02:26 PM (igX5u)

Happy you're ok, you crazy kid.

Posted by: ... at May 02, 2025 02:31 PM (QTr+M)

264 Got my toes in the sand watching the mountains and the seagulls and the tide go out.

God bless and heal you, relax and enjoy yourself, and the warm day

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 02:32 PM (2VST1)

265 Reminder of how seriously to take KBJ -

https://tinyurl.com/3xwupnbw

Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 02, 2025 02:32 PM (Dv3i1)

266 My heart is good though, thank God.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 02, 2025 02:26 PM (igX5u)
________________

Excellent news!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 02:32 PM (YqDXo)

267 359 >> So we ARE going to split up the Union after all.
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His dog up and died....

Posted by: Pudinhead at May 02, 2025 02:32 PM (pZ64F)

268 There are many very old copies of the Quran in various places, but everyone is absolutely forbidden to look at them, let alone study. Copies hidden in Africa and Iraq and other places, from the 6th century. I strongly suspect they have tremendous variations that would be hilarious to reveal.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 02:21 PM (2VST1)


One of the triggering elements that led to the Reformation and the whole constellation of protestant churches was the new translation of the original Greek gospels instead of the ongoing copying of the Latin standard Bible, which showed a lot of corrupted and misunderstood text that was current at that time in the Catholic church.
Luther was just one of the priests insisting on an adoption of the new translations and a review of the church, and this grew to translations in English, Dutch and other languages as well. This created schism between the powerful church, the nobility and systems that relied on them, and the protestant sects.

a review of the Koran would probably cause the same problems today.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 02, 2025 02:32 PM (D7oie)

269 I learned in college that you can compare and contrast literally anything.

Making any C&C paper a largely meaningless academic exercise with no real-world practicality.

Which, I think, most don't ever understand.

But the pointy-heads in the ivory towers tell us we should be impressed with their keen observations.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 02, 2025 02:33 PM (NwfFc)

270 LiMu Emu... and Gorby
Posted by: tubal


Geico - So easy, even Gorby can do it.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 02, 2025 02:33 PM (vs3rY)

271 >>>one being a communist and the other being a human

?

Posted by: m at May 02, 2025 02:33 PM (CQE5S)

272 Mannix I am cheering the shutdown of the 6th NCA group.

NOAA. Certainly bloated, I'll be good if DOGE cuts out their whole Climate division. But its kind of nice to have advance notice of hurricanes thanks to the weather satellites and advances in the weather modeling software. Plus they grudgingly partly fund the group I work for, that is all about cheaper ways to gather weather data, and with a method that is more resistant to statistical massaging to get the expected answer.

Posted by: PaleRider at May 02, 2025 02:33 PM (bP/i4)

273 One of the criticisms against Muhammad when he was alive was that he believed every dumb crazy story that he ever heard and added most of them into his book. Like, the stories of Jesus making birds of clay and bringing them to life as a child, or 300 people who went to sleep in a cave and woke up centuries later. The guy was either the biggest sucker ever or just lazy and added everything to make the book seem bigger and fuller.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

So a seventh century L. Ron Hubbard?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Elephants and Earthquakes! at May 02, 2025 02:34 PM (L/fGl)

274 Luther was just one of the priests insisting on an adoption of the new translations and a review of the church

Yeah this is largely forgotten, there were a LOT of people at the time like Erasmus who were very critical of how the church was at the time, the behavior of priests, the scandal of the many "popes", the outrageous use of indulgences, etc. Reformation was not a crazy and rare cry, its just Luther pulled it off.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 02:34 PM (2VST1)

275 I am waiting for my email telling me that I am being deported to Reno, NV.

I would be deported to northern Louisiana. That would suck.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 02, 2025 02:34 PM (/y8xj)

276 [you seem nice]

Posted by: Hitler Again at May 02, 2025 02:34 PM (ImD0v)

277 I think Kerensky ended up in California to live out his life and Krushchev's son went to New England. Not sure where Svetlana ended up.
Posted by: whig at May 02, 2025 02:21 PM (ctrM5)


Chicago I think, and her daughter is in the Northwest, either Seattle or Portland.

FWIW John Brown's youngest son, Salmon, was a prosperous butcher in Portland, and died after a rather tragic riding accident left him paralyzed and bedd-ridden

Posted by: Kindltot at May 02, 2025 02:34 PM (D7oie)

278
Making any C&C paper a largely meaningless academic exercise with no real-world practicality.

Which, I think, most don't ever understand.

But the pointy-heads in the ivory towers tell us we should be impressed with their keen observations.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 02, 2025 02:33 PM (NwfFc)



You asked for it........


https://youtu.be/DBn9M0UbrJ8

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 02, 2025 02:35 PM (Zz0t1)

279 247 I see Jumanji Brown Jackson is out there condemning "people" for criticizing Federal Judges.... Meaning Trump..
Posted by: It's me donna

Doesn't surprise me at all that Jumanji doesn't know of or have an understanding of the First Amendment. Or biology.

Posted by: Cheri at May 02, 2025 02:29 PM (oiNtH)


I don't recall her criticizing Decrepit Joe for his frequent criticisms of SCOTUS in general and specific decisions he didn't like. IIRC, Decrepit Joe bitched about SCOTUS decisions, such as the overturn on Roe v Wade, in front of most of the Justices at one of his State of the Union addresses. So much for Our Precious Norms, huh?

Posted by: Gref at May 02, 2025 02:35 PM (aBgBM)

280 I don't think it's so much Trump's election that sets it apart as the ongoing self-inflicted implosion of the left. Nothing like that happened in Spain.

Read "Homage To Catalonia" - the thing that disillusioned Orwell was that the Soviet-backed Spanish Communists started executing anarchists, Trotskyites, and anyone else who opposed them.

Posted by: Libertarians! at May 02, 2025 02:35 PM (xTIDn)

281 I see Jumanji Brown Jackson is out there condemning "people" for criticizing Federal Judges.... Meaning Trump..

There was an exchange in the court that was kind of hilarious, basically Kagan telling her to shut up and let the attorney talk.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 02:30 PM (2VST1)
_____________

Let the DEI appointee quack talk!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 02:35 PM (YqDXo)

282 I learned in college that you can compare and contrast literally anything.

Making any C&C paper a largely meaningless academic exercise with no real-world practicality. ...
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 02, 2025 02:33 PM (NwfFc)
++++
But not useless in reality. Comparing and contrasting is often crucial in problem-solving, especially when there's a similar-but-not-identical problem to be solved. "It's like that, except here and here. Is the approach for the known problem relevant to this one?" etc.

"Compare and Contrast Mao and a housecat" has much less value, though...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2025 02:35 PM (WkNQM)

283 273 One of the criticisms against Muhammad when he was alive was that he believed every dumb crazy story that he ever heard and added most of them into his book. Like, the stories of Jesus making birds of clay and bringing them to life as a child, or 300 people who went to sleep in a cave and woke up centuries later. The guy was either the biggest sucker ever or just lazy and added everything to make the book seem bigger and fuller.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

So a seventh century L. Ron Hubbard?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Elephants and Earthquakes! at May 02, 2025 02:34 PM (L/fGl)

I could add Tim LaHaye and Jerry Jenkins, but I won't

Posted by: tubal at May 02, 2025 02:35 PM (PCK5/)

284 The whole Luigi Mangione thing is so infuriating. He’s a spoiled little rich kid who stalked and
Murdered someone. The someone was a husband and a father.

The left is completely insane.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 02, 2025 02:35 PM (cjIOW)

285 FWIW John Brown's youngest son, Salmon, was a prosperous butcher in Portland, and died after a rather tragic riding accident left him paralyzed and bedd-ridden
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You'd think Salmon would have been a fishmonger rather than a butcher. Huh.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 02, 2025 02:36 PM (Dv3i1)

286 So a seventh century L. Ron Hubbard?

Kind of, although its almost certain that Hubbard invented Scientology as a part of a bet.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 02:36 PM (2VST1)

287 I rather liked Reno back in the 90s.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at May 02, 2025 02:36 PM (6YdsJ)

288 Like, the stories of Jesus making birds of clay and bringing them to life as a child. . .

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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That came from apocryphal Christian writings and underlies a big problem with Mo as a prophet. Basically the Koran has a bunch of stolen, misinterpreted, and outright strange additions/traditions from most pre-existing Middle Eastern religions. It is more likely that dissidents and apostates from various dominant religions cobbled up the book rather than one author.

Claims about the divinity of Christ seem to be a copy of Arianism for example, hating on depictions of humans, from the Byzantines, and so on.

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2025 02:36 PM (ctrM5)

289 NOAA. Certainly bloated, I'll be good if DOGE cuts out their whole Climate division. But its kind of nice to have advance notice of hurricanes thanks to the weather satellites and advances in the weather modeling software. Plus they grudgingly partly fund the group I work for, that is all about cheaper ways to gather weather data, and with a method that is more resistant to statistical massaging to get the expected answer.
Posted by: PaleRider at May 02, 2025 02:33 PM (bP/i4)
++++
If NOAA lies about climate data, what else is lying about? But that aside, some of NOAA is probably worth savings. But a big fat reorg into a new administration would permit a lot of bad things to be curtailed.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2025 02:36 PM (WkNQM)

290 >>> COVID was compared to the 1918 Spanish Flu (or less often, the 1968 flu outbreak).

I compared COVID to the 1976 swine flu, for which I also didn't get immunized.

Posted by: m at May 02, 2025 02:37 PM (CQE5S)

291 I got a plenary indulgence last Saturday!

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 02, 2025 02:37 PM (l3YAf)

292 John Brown's youngest son, Salmon, was a prosperous butcher in Portland

Some poor bastard was named Salmon Brown?? Sometimes I think people should have to take a test to have kids.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 02:37 PM (2VST1)

293
I compared COVID to the 1976 swine flu, for which I also didn't get immunized.
Posted by: m at May 02, 2025 02:37 PM (CQE5S)



I'm never getting any vaccine ever again. They've destroyed any trust I had in the medical community. I will only see them if it's a dire emergency.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 02, 2025 02:38 PM (Zz0t1)

294 One of the criticisms against Muhammad when he was alive was that he believed every dumb crazy story that he ever heard and added most of them into his book.
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Prophet of Doom is probably still available on the internet.
The reason the early parts of Mo's books are friendly to the Jews and later parts are "kill, kill, kill!" is that Mo' happened upon a caravan of Jewish merchants.

And he decided he'd tell them his new and improved stories. Thought he'd impress them.
Them, knowing the originals, and hearing his illiterate ramblings, laughed at him.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 02, 2025 02:38 PM (NwfFc)

295
At the same time, they demonized Dan White, who murdered George Moscone and the faggot Harvey Milk, for dicking him around (IIRC, White resigned, and then changed his mind, but Moscone and Milk weren't having it.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 02:29 PM (YqDXo)



Milk was a piece of shit, even to his fellow gays if he could see a way to use them. See the story of Oliver Sipple, a gay Marine combat vet who prevented Sara Jane Moore's assassination attempt of Gerald Ford by grabbing her in the crowd when she pulled her pistol. Milk outed him to shit heel columnist Herb Caen, even though Milk and Sipple were friends. Did it so that he could claim that gays are heroes, not pedophiles. Ruined Sipple's family life (they disowned him) and he died young, before the age of 50.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 02, 2025 02:38 PM (y9nCu)

296 Basically the Koran has a bunch of stolen, misinterpreted, and outright strange additions/traditions from most pre-existing Middle Eastern religions

Pretty much yeah. Muhammad codified Arabic cultural beliefs and behavior, made it an official Arabic religion scattered with magical sounding stuff, and taught that being an Arabic warlord male got you to paradise.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 02:38 PM (2VST1)

297 Reformation was not a crazy and rare cry, its just Luther pulled it off.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Well, Jan Hus in Bohemia kinda did. Got burned at the stake, but his followers are still around.

Posted by: Bulg at May 02, 2025 02:39 PM (77rzZ)

298
Some poor bastard was named Salmon Brown?? Sometimes I think people should have to take a test to have kids.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 02:37 PM (2VST1)



You're not kidding......

Posted by: Jihaad Campbell at May 02, 2025 02:39 PM (Zz0t1)

299 I see Jumanji Brown Jackson is out there condemning "people" for criticizing Federal Judges.... Meaning Trump..
Posted by: It's me donna

LMAO her compatriots went to their houses. Guess that's better than being "criticized".

So much for free speech but who expects a lib to believe in that old saw.

Posted by: ... at May 02, 2025 02:39 PM (QTr+M)

300 Some poor bastard was named Salmon Brown?? Sometimes I think people should have to take a test to have kids.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 02:37 PM (2VST1)
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Hmmm.

Posted by: Salmon P. Chase at May 02, 2025 02:39 PM (6YdsJ)

301 Some poor bastard was named Salmon Brown?? Sometimes I think people should have to take a test to have kids.

We don't get it.

Posted by: Mr. and Mrs. Dave at May 02, 2025 02:39 PM (/y8xj)

302 Many thanks to the cobs and all their hard work but I'm very much looking forward to Ace's return next week.

Posted by: Max Power at May 02, 2025 02:40 PM (Hucnr)

303 Some poor bastard was named Salmon Brown?? Sometimes I think people should have to take a test to have kids.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 02:37 PM (2VST1)
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Hmmm.
Posted by: Salmon P. Chase at May 02, 2025 02:39 PM (6YdsJ)

I’m not a part of this conversation.

Posted by: Sal Bass at May 02, 2025 02:40 PM (l3YAf)

304 Many thanks to the cobs and all their hard work but I'm very much looking forward to Ace's return next week.
Posted by: Max Power at May 02, 2025 02:40 PM (Hucnr)



What a nice kick in the nuts.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 02, 2025 02:40 PM (Zz0t1)

305 Good morning, morons.


Hanging in there. Super sore, hurts to cough or sneeze, bend, lift, twist or use my left arm.

My heart is good though, thank God.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 02, 2025 02:26 PM (igX5u)

Oh no! What happened to you?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 02, 2025 02:40 PM (4ia/r)

306 282 I learned in college that you can compare and contrast literally anything.

Making any C&C paper a largely meaningless academic exercise with no real-world practicality. ...
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
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To do so with rigor requires professors to work harder at getting students to write papers in stages rather than the late night data dump.

For many situations that simply cannot have statistical analysis, case methodology is about the only tool we have. And like analogies, similes, metaphors, etc., in writing can always be criticized for including or excluding some fact or notion relevant to the criticizer.

Something is always better than nothing to advance thought and discourse.

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2025 02:41 PM (ctrM5)

307 302 Many thanks to the cobs and all their hard work but I'm very much looking forward to Ace's return next week.
Posted by: Max Power at May 02, 2025 02:40 PM (Hucnr)

========

You're...welcome...?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 02:41 PM (GBKbO)

308 In the parallel universe Spock has a goatee.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 02, 2025 01:48 PM (63Dwl)

"Mister Sulu, the Agonizer." I like that universe because of the no nonsense product name alone.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2025 02:41 PM (8avO+)

309 You'd think Salmon would have been a fishmonger rather than a butcher. Huh.
Posted by: Chuck Martel

He didn't want to chase after the fish like that one Chief Justice did.

Posted by: Bulg at May 02, 2025 02:41 PM (77rzZ)

310 sorry, Salmon Brown died in Portland, but he had a farm and a butcher shop in Salem Oregon. He lived near the corner of 12th and Marion streets.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 02, 2025 02:41 PM (D7oie)

311 > If NOAA lies about climate data, what else is lying about? But that aside, some of NOAA is probably worth savings. But a big fat reorg into a new administration would permit a lot of bad things to be curtailed.
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It's weird that NOAA is under the Commerce Dept. When I worked for them the Agency was sort seen as a bastard stepchild. The National Weather Service is probably the only part of NOAA people know about, but there's a bunch of science there. In addition to the "Office of Space Commerce." Which is part of the weirdness.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 02, 2025 02:42 PM (Q4IgG)

312 I learned in college that you can compare and contrast literally anything.

Making any C&C paper a largely meaningless academic exercise with no real-world practicality. ...
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 02, 2025 02:33 PM (NwfFc)
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But not useless in reality. Comparing and contrasting is often crucial in problem-solving, especially when there's a similar-but-not-identical problem to be solved. "It's like that, except here and here. Is the approach for the known problem relevant to this one?" etc.
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Agree. C&C serves two other functions: it establishes whether the student has actually read the material, and whether he can think (rather than merely regurgitating what he read).

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 02:42 PM (YqDXo)

313 Well I give zero thanks to the filler inners and actually I'm not all that fussed about ace's return.

Posted by: ... at May 02, 2025 02:42 PM (QTr+M)

314 Western Lensman
@WesternLensman

LEFT: Jasmine Crockett says she would never question Joe Biden’s mental acuity.

RIGHT: Jasmine Crockett says it’s “beyond wild” that no one is questioning Trump’s mental acuity.

https://tinyurl.com/3bymwvb4

Posted by: redridinghood at May 02, 2025 02:42 PM (NpAcC)

315 Harvey Milk was a horrible person, a corrupt monster. I'd love to see an expose done on him, a biopic showing what a piece of trash that guy was.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 02:42 PM (2VST1)

316 313 Well I give zero thanks to the filler inners and actually I'm not all that fussed about ace's return.
Posted by: ... at May 02, 2025 02:42 PM (QTr+M)

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On a blog where the content doesn't get read, who really cares what gets written about in the actual posts?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 02:43 PM (GBKbO)

317 We don’t need Ace back. I, for one, welcome our new COB overlords and their terrifying new reign of terror! May death come quickly to their enemies.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 02, 2025 02:43 PM (l3YAf)

318 @294

>>And he decided he'd tell them his new and improved stories. Thought he'd impress them.
Them, knowing the originals, and hearing his illiterate ramblings, laughed at him.

The other thing most people don't realize is that Mo could not read or write and had scribes write everything down, then those writings went through rewrites through the ages by other mussie "scholars."

The Koran is Frankenstein of bedohuin nonsense.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 02, 2025 02:43 PM (XV/Pl)

319 @WesternLensman

LEFT: Jasmine Crockett says she would never question Joe Biden’s mental acuity.

RIGHT: Jasmine Crockett says it’s “beyond wild” that no one is questioning Trump’s mental acuity.

https://tinyurl.com/3bymwvb4
Posted by: redridinghood at May 02, 2025 02:42 PM (NpAcC)



hooz bish dis iz?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 02, 2025 02:44 PM (Zz0t1)

320 Please don’t tell Ace I said that.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 02, 2025 02:44 PM (l3YAf)

321 Some poor bastard was named Salmon Brown?? Sometimes I think people should have to take a test to have kids.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 02:37 PM (2VST1)
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Hmmm.
Posted by: Salmon P. Chase at May 02, 2025 02:39 PM (6YdsJ)

I’m not a part of this conversation.

Posted by: Sal Bass at May 02, 2025 02:40 PM (l3YAf)
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Me either.

Posted by: Mike Trout at May 02, 2025 02:44 PM (YqDXo)

322 293 I'm never getting any vaccine ever again. They've destroyed any trust I had in the medical community. I will only see them if it's a dire emergency.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer

Right? Honestly, the medical community did so much harm to themselves in this debacle, and yet they seem stunned to learn this is the situation. The support behind transsexual children, who don’t exist, and providing medical care based on who is the most oppressed, is also not helpful. Of course there are outliers who don’t deserve to be lumped in with the insane, but good heavens we are in a very strange place right now as humans.

Posted by: Piper at May 02, 2025 02:44 PM (pZEOD)

323 Interesting post Joe Mannix. I'm going to share it with my Aussie colleagues and see what they think. Right now they are convinced America is no longer a reliable partner and Ally. They think Trump is a monster and is screwing them.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 02, 2025 02:44 PM (W/lyH)

324 @257 whig, yup basically Trump is doing a Cloward and Piven to the left. Hit them with so many attacks their brains turn off and all they can do is make odd noises.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 02, 2025 02:44 PM (Er3Q7)

325 Some poor bastard was named Salmon Brown?? Sometimes I think people should have to take a test to have kids.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 02:37 PM (2VST1)
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Hmmm.
Posted by: Salmon P. Chase at May 02, 2025 02:39 PM (6YdsJ)

The Rebs had a general named "States Rights Gist". Imagine being named for some 20 year old controversy.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2025 02:45 PM (8avO+)

326 Some poor bastard was named Salmon Brown?? Sometimes I think people should have to take a test to have kids.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 02:37 PM (2VST1)


Salmon was the youngest of John Brown's 20 children, and the one asked to stay home and care for the women and the farm when his father went to start the rebellion.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 02, 2025 02:45 PM (D7oie)

327
If NOAA lies about climate data, what else is lying about? But that aside, some of NOAA is probably worth savings. But a big fat reorg into a new administration would permit a lot of bad things to be curtailed.


We totes wouldn't cheat by accessing NOAA data...

Posted by: The Japanese Navy at May 02, 2025 02:45 PM (y9nCu)

328 I learned in college that you can compare and contrast literally anything.

Making any C&C paper a largely meaningless academic exercise with no real-world practicality. ...
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice

It's like all of those "parallels" that people used to draw between the Lincoln and Kennedy assassinations. Basically, a bunch of random coincidences that have no relevance to anything, and no meaning historically.

Posted by: Bulg at May 02, 2025 02:45 PM (77rzZ)

329 323 Interesting post Joe Mannix. I'm going to share it with my Aussie colleagues and see what they think. Right now they are convinced America is no longer a reliable partner and Ally. They think Trump is a monster and is screwing them.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 02, 2025 02:44 PM (W/lyH)

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"Your country set up camps for non-vaxxers. Trump is honestly the least of your worries. You're still a prison colony."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 02:45 PM (GBKbO)

330
Oh no! What happened to you?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 02, 2025 02:40 PM (4ia/r)



Went to the ER with chest pains.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 02, 2025 02:45 PM (Zz0t1)

331 I'm going to share it with my Aussie colleagues and see what they think. Right now they are convinced America is no longer a reliable partner and Ally.

I hope they are correct. Because Australia has went Full Retard.

Posted by: Fast Eddy Felson at May 02, 2025 02:45 PM (McYvC)

332 LEFT: Jasmine Crockett says she would never question Joe Biden’s mental acuity.
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TBH, I never questioned it either. I had no doubt whatsoever that his brain had turned into guacamole.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 02:46 PM (YqDXo)

333 Harvey Milk was a horrible person, a corrupt monster. I'd love to see an expose done on him, a biopic showing what a piece of trash that guy was.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Hey! Hey! Hey! That's contrary to the narrative!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Elephants and Earthquakes! at May 02, 2025 02:46 PM (L/fGl)

334 "Mister Sulu, the Agonizer." I like that universe because of the no nonsense product name alone.

Much like the tail of a Stegosaurus, the "Thagomizer"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 02:46 PM (2VST1)

335 Oh no! What happened to you?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


Spent a few hours in the ER with sharp, stabbing left sided chest pain. Hurt to breathe. I have a cardiac history, MI and a spontaneous coronary dissection requiring two stents ten years ago.

Didn’t want to mess around.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 02, 2025 02:46 PM (g8IDW)

336 Interesting post Joe Mannix. I'm going to share it with my Aussie colleagues and see what they think. Right now they are convinced America is no longer a reliable partner and Ally. They think Trump is a monster and is screwing them.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 02, 2025 02:44 PM (W/lyH)

Australia will become an unreliable ally as long as they are autocratic.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2025 02:46 PM (8avO+)

337 The Rebs had a general named "States Rights Gist". Imagine being named for some 20 year old controversy.
Posted by: Oldcat

Yeah. More proof that politics has always come first for Democrats.

Posted by: Bulg at May 02, 2025 02:46 PM (77rzZ)

338 Oh no! What happened to you?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


She went up a ladder after a woodpecker.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 02, 2025 02:46 PM (vs3rY)

339 LEFT: Jasmine Crockett says she would never question Joe Biden’s mental acuity.
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This scans.

Posted by: ... at May 02, 2025 02:47 PM (QTr+M)

340 323 Interesting post Joe Mannix. I'm going to share it with my Aussie colleagues and see what they think. Right now they are convinced America is no longer a reliable partner and Ally. They think Trump is a monster and is screwing them.
Posted by: Diogenes
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Another country that cannot defend itself and has long expected special privileges for letting the US defend them.

I could blame the Aussies for Rupert Murdoch and his spawn they have inflicted on us but I haven't so far.

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2025 02:47 PM (ctrM5)

341 The Rebs had a general named "States Rights Gist". Imagine being named for some 20 year old controversy.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2025 02:45 PM (8avO+)
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Although it's a nickname, I've always been partial to " Extra Billy" Smith.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at May 02, 2025 02:47 PM (6YdsJ)

342 NOOD GERMAN POLITICS

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2025 02:47 PM (WkNQM)

343 The Rebs had a general named "States Rights Gist". Imagine being named for some 20 year old controversy.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2025 02:45 PM (8avO+)

Tell me about it.

Posted by: Heckuvajob Brownie Jones at May 02, 2025 02:47 PM (l3YAf)

344 Me either.
Posted by: Mike Trout at May 02, 2025 02:44 PM (YqDXo)


I understood that reference.

Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at May 02, 2025 02:47 PM (Sf2cq)

345 Communism was an evil system, however it's arguable that the shock therapy that sachs and summers induced was probably the wrong way of handling it, even if Russian men were angels (which they aren't) the problem didn't really arise in Poland, but it didn't really work in Bolivia,

Posted by: miguel cervantes at May 02, 2025 02:48 PM (bXbFr)

346 "Your country set up camps for non-vaxxers. Trump is honestly the least of your worries. You're still a prison colony."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 02:45 PM (GBKbO)

Shot - not euthanized - dogs despite volunteers to take them away to be cared for. I'm not even a dog lover for that to horrify and disgust me.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2025 02:48 PM (8avO+)

347 their brains turn off and all they can do is make odd noises.

Used to date her.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at May 02, 2025 02:48 PM (SbfaR)

348 323 I stopped caring about the Aussies when they built Fauci Fever concentration camps.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 02, 2025 02:48 PM (wBaIH)

349 I miss ACE's unique skill with language and approach but the fill in guys are doing great, and thanks to you all.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 02:48 PM (2VST1)

350 When the last living Boomer witnesses the last child being turned into a tranny, perhaps it might cross his stupid goddamned Boomer mind to stop worrying about Hitler.
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And your self-indulgent temper-tantrum protests of the 60's consigned millions to death and misery that continues to this day.

And your protests today are in support of the same caliber of mass murdering inhuman scum.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 02, 2025 02:48 PM (NwfFc)

351 Harvey Milk was a horrible person, a corrupt monster. I'd love to see an expose done on him, a biopic showing what a piece of trash that guy was.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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This.

Reportedly he used to cruise the Greyhound station to pick up runaway boys to take them home and cornhole them.

Nice guy. Dan White did us all a solid by blowing him away.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 02:49 PM (YqDXo)

352 344

*does a quick web search*

*learns that I misunderstood that reference*

nvm. different Mike Trout.

Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at May 02, 2025 02:49 PM (Sf2cq)

353 It's like all of those "parallels" that people used to draw between the Lincoln and Kennedy assassinations. Basically, a bunch of random coincidences that have no relevance to anything, and no meaning historically.
Posted by: Bulg

Not necessarily. Depends on whether you believe in the Deep State theory or not. Robert Lincoln always suspected that Edwin Stanton had something to do with the murder of his father.

We don't know much about what JFK Jr thought but Jackie, at the very least, thought that Jack was killed actors in the system he was over and RFK Jr seems to think the same. One of the reasons that Jackie married Onassis to protect her and her family from that.

Posted by: whig at May 02, 2025 02:50 PM (ctrM5)

354 Spent a few hours in the ER with sharp, stabbing left sided chest pain. Hurt to breathe. I have a cardiac history, MI and a spontaneous coronary dissection requiring two stents ten years ago.

Didn’t want to mess around.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 02, 2025 02:46 PM (g8IDW)

Yikes! Did not know that. Get well soon!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 02, 2025 02:50 PM (4ia/r)

355 Posted by: Diogenes at May 02, 2025 02:44 PM (W/lyH)

US has pretty much *always* been an unreliable ally, unfortunately. Certainly since the beginning of the 20th century.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 02, 2025 02:53 PM (lFFaq)

356 Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at May 02, 2025 02:49 PM (Sf2cq)

Bet we thought of the same one. I guess there's one in baseball or something as well.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 02, 2025 02:54 PM (lFFaq)

357 Some poor bastard was named Salmon Brown?? Sometimes I think people should have to take a test to have kids.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 02:37 PM

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I knew a kid named Snapper. He turned out about what you would expect.

Posted by: Angel at May 02, 2025 02:54 PM (oiJGz)

358 342 NOOD GERMAN POLITICS
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 02, 2025 02:47 PM (WkNQM)

Kinky!

Posted by: m at May 02, 2025 02:56 PM (CQE5S)

359 Anyone who tries to draft me or force me to do mandatory national service is going to get the Reservoir Dogs treatment,
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 02, 2025 01:51 PM (l3YAf)

10 grand fine. 5 years in Leavenworth.

Posted by: The Draft circa 1966 at May 02, 2025 02:56 PM (5xuJ/)

360 The Soviet Union’s “success” always depended on their being able to invade and plunder Western Europe. Once it became obvious that Reagan had absolutely won the Arms Race, all the most murderously ambitious elements of the Politburo threw in the towel, knowing there was no hope. Only then did the opportunity open up for Gorbachev.

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at May 02, 2025 02:59 PM (GD2xa)

361 Would be interesting to see a couple of competing alt-fiction perspectives & timelines had Ross Perot won the Presidency in '92 (kind of Trump before Trump) instead of Bubble and The Clinton Crime Family Syndicate.

Posted by: ShainS at May 02, 2025 03:05 PM (T3zON)

362 *Bubba, damn auto-cucumber!

Posted by: ShainS at May 02, 2025 03:06 PM (T3zON)

363 The Gorbachev Foundation founded December 1991.

May 1992, Gorbachev toured the US in a two-week speaking tour as part of the foundation.

1995, the foundation hosted its first event, the State of the World Forum, at the Fairmont Hotel in San Francisco, which discussed international political goals of the 21st century such as resolving differences following the Cold War. The forum included Mikhail Gorbachev, Milton Friedman, Zbigniew Brzezinski, George P. Shultz, George H.W. Bush, Margaret Thatcher, Carl Sagan and Jane Goodall, Ted Turner, David Packard, former Senator Alan Cranston, John Denver, and Wolfgang Puck, South Korean politician Kim Dae-jung, the 1992 Nobel Peace Prize winner Rigoberta Menchu, Bernard Shaw, and Reagan admin official Stephen Rhinesmith. The conference was described and partially criticized by the book The Global Trap in 1996, written by later populist European Parliament member Hans-Peter Martin. The book noted that a "one-fifth society" was discussed, and some speakers claimed that 20% of the population would sustain the world economy, whereas 80% would be distracted by what Zbigniew Brzezinski criticized and purportedly called "tittytainment."

Posted by: scottst at May 02, 2025 03:48 PM (u00su)

364 Would be interesting to see a couple of competing alt-fiction perspectives & timelines had Ross Perot won the Presidency in '92 (kind of Trump before Trump) instead of Bubble and The Clinton Crime Family Syndicate.
Posted by: ShainS at May 02, 2025 03:05 PM (T3zON)

Not much. There were other crime families, the Cuomos, the Bushes, the Kennedys. Billy Bob delayed the turn to leftism for a while, but liberal failure would have led to the college leftists infiltrating the Dems would have continued.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2025 03:52 PM (8avO+)

365 Once it became obvious that Reagan had absolutely won the Arms Race, all the most murderously ambitious elements of the Politburo threw in the towel, knowing there was no hope. Only then did the opportunity open up for Gorbachev.
Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at May 02, 2025 02:59 PM (GD2xa)

Gorby's love for the West was exaggerated, or made up. He had a long struggle with a competitor to take over, with setbacks coming whenever he got too popular in western press. Ironically, his opponent was named Romanov.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2025 03:55 PM (8avO+)

366 Posted by: Diogenes at May 02, 2025 02:44 PM (W/lyH)

US has pretty much *always* been an unreliable ally, unfortunately. Certainly since the beginning of the 20th century.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 02, 2025 02:53 PM (lFFaq)

Major powers have their own interests. Reliability is a virtue only for minor powers.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2025 03:57 PM (8avO+)

367 Mannix I am cheering the shutdown of the 6th NCA group.

NOAA. Certainly bloated, I'll be good if DOGE cuts out their whole Climate division. But its kind of nice to have advance notice of hurricanes thanks to the weather satellites and advances in the weather modeling software. Plus they grudgingly partly fund the group I work for, that is all about cheaper ways to gather weather data, and with a method that is more resistant to statistical massaging to get the expected answer.
Posted by: PaleRider at May 02, 2025 02:33 PM (bP/i4)

That's never where the bloat is. Cutting the fat probably leaves MORE money for actual serious work.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2025 04:01 PM (8avO+)

368 What a day to not show up. Good work.
_always late

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 02, 2025 06:45 PM (M2v2q)

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