The Morning Rant: Minimalist Edition

It's fun to make fun of Canada. They are an odd people living in an odd country, and any culture that elevates Poutine to high cuisine cannot be taken seriously. Besides, their bacon...isn't.

But they also live in North America, and is it tempting to assume that they hold dear many of the things that formed us, here in the United States. Hell, they even sort of speak English, and drive on the correct side of the road! Individualism, personal responsibility, freedom of speech, the right to self defense against all things...you know, the stuff that makes up American Exceptionalism; they must love that stuff!

Sadly, it is becoming increasingly clear that they are an alien culture that has drawn
all of the communitarian aspects of our roughly shared European and Anglo-Saxon heritage and left behind that which has created the greatest country in history.

Prime Minister Carney's Liberal Party to lead fourth consecutive government

Pierre Poilievre seemed like a good antidote to the execrable Justin Trudeau, and Canada seemed poised to return to some semblance of normalcy with respect to taxes, illegal immigration, personal freedom, and size of government. But he was unable to articulate a vision of Canada that was independent of President Trump's barbs that mocked Canada as a country. And most of all, Canadians were intimidated by the prospect of actually taking some responsibility for themselves, their national defense, and their position in the Western world.

Apparently they prefer their cradle-to-grave soft socialism that is driving them into 3rd World status, an ascendant Islamic minority that is given preference in all things, embracing the lunacy of transsexualism, and an increasingly authoritarian thought police that strives to restrict the basic human rights of free speech!

As much as we want to assume that they are made from the same cloth as Americans...they aren't. They are Europe-Lite. All we can do is mock them for their lack of freedom and liberty, and hold their collective feet to the fire to participate in the defense of the Western world. And that will be quite a chore, since they are near the bottom of every list of percentage of GDP devoted to defense. They have ignored their NATO responsibilities, and have the arrogance to pretend that they can go it alone without the massive defensive umbrella of America.

They can't, and it is clownish to preen and strut as if they can.

Let's see how they respond when Russia or China starts playing in the Canadian arctic. My bet is a rapid recalibration of their relationship with America!

But for now? President Trump's tariff offensive is a powerful reminder to Canada that they are indeed America's hat. How the negotiations will shake out is difficult to judge, but in the meantime we can buy Wisconsin Maple Syrup and look for auto parts made in America or Mexico. Hopefully the relaxation of the Biden prohibitions on petroleum production will provide an alternative to Canadian oil, and as for lumber, I think America has a few trees left.

Canada is the mouse in the joke about the Elephant.

An elephant is ambling through the forest, and notices when he looks down that a mouse is busily trying to hump his leg!

The mouse looks up and sees the elephant gazing down in curiosity, and says:

"Don't worry, I'll be gentle!"

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Posted by: CBD at 11:00 AM

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1 Monkey!

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at April 29, 2025 11:00 AM (N1tpc)

2 Not first.

Posted by: Bulg at April 29, 2025 11:00 AM (77rzZ)

3 They are an odd people living in an odd country, and any culture that elevates Poutine to high cuisine cannot be taken seriously. Besides, their bacon...isn't.

Snow Mexicans.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2025 11:02 AM (KP+Ym)

4 Not first either.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 29, 2025 11:02 AM (i24o9)

5 My guess is that western Canada (especially Alberta) is going to be increasingly unsatisfied with the rules placed on them by the east.

Our 51st state might be Alberta.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at April 29, 2025 11:02 AM (N1tpc)

6 Perhaps we could add Canada to the prayer list. May God have mercy on their souls.

Posted by: Next2Nothing at April 29, 2025 11:02 AM (tA1/w)

7 Now we get to witness what would’ve happened to us if Kamala had been installed.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 29, 2025 11:03 AM (u73oe)

8 If your electorate is so fragile that a trash talking foreigner can scare your pants off, you are not a serious country.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 29, 2025 11:03 AM (Ut2e7)

9 "Let's see how they respond when Russia or China starts playing in the Canadian arctic. My bet is a rapid recalibration of their relationship with America!"

They'd much prefer to bow to China than to admit that they need the US.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at April 29, 2025 11:03 AM (N1tpc)

10 6 Perhaps we could add Canada to the prayer list. May God have mercy on their souls.
Posted by: Next2Nothing at April 29, 2025 11:02 AM (tA1/w)

You're nicer than me... They made their bed.. Let them lie in it...

Posted by: It's me donna at April 29, 2025 11:03 AM (VE6XX)

11 Laughing at the Snow Chinese is always a good thread.

Posted by: toby928 at April 29, 2025 11:04 AM (jc0TO)

12 I'm not so sure that their current flaccid culture isn't a recent development. Canadian soldiers were among the most feared by the Nazis.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 29, 2025 11:04 AM (s8j++)

13 And I am packing up today to hit the road back to the Demented Dominion. There are some secessionist/annexationist groups springing up in Alberta, and I will be checking them out. Or figuring out how to best liquidate up there, and get legal residency in the USA.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 29, 2025 11:05 AM (8zz6B)

14 Canada once had an aircraft industry.

Posted by: toby928 at April 29, 2025 11:05 AM (jc0TO)

15 UPS will cut 20,000 jobs this year after breaking with its biggest customer Amazon. The delivery giant is looking to slash costs after its decision in January to halve the number of Amazon deliveries it takes. Deliveries for the e-commerce giant makes up around 12 percent of UPS's revenue, the company said. However, UPS said the profit margins for Amazon deliveries were too small and it wanted to refocus on more lucrative markets such as healthcare and international deliveries. The decision will also lead to the closure of 73 UPS buildings this year, the company said on Tuesday.

Posted by: SMOD at April 29, 2025 11:05 AM (RHGPo)

16 World War II was 80 years ago, quite a few generations removed from a country who's government applauded a Nazi Ukrainian.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 29, 2025 11:05 AM (Ut2e7)

17 SCOTUS declares Medicare/Social Security/etc benefits as "cash" when calculating the Medicare reimbursement to hospitals.

Posted by: SMOD at April 29, 2025 11:06 AM (RHGPo)

18 I'm not so sure that their current flaccid culture isn't a recent development. Canadian soldiers were among the most feared by the Nazis.
Posted by: Archimedes

Not even the Germans could stomach poutine.

Posted by: Bulg at April 29, 2025 11:06 AM (77rzZ)

19 So the blame will get put on Trump?

Cause he trash talked Canada and in response Canada shot themselves in the head?

Bizzaro world.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 29, 2025 11:07 AM (gMWM2)

20 "But he was unable to articulate a vision of Canada that was independent of President Trump's barbs that mocked Canada as a country."

It's easy (and correct) to say that Poilievre couldn't articulate such a vision, but I believe in this case Trump could have helped him a little bit. He was so satisfied in getting Castreau out using an axe that he didn't bother to use the scalpel to separate what the two parties themselves were doing.

That said, I was really surprised that a skilled politician like Poilievre said basically nothing that I can recall about Trump and Canada. And now even he is out of a seat; he was ousted by a Liberal.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 29, 2025 11:07 AM (KOSi8)

21 AoP I would be wary of any such newly created groups. It could all be a trap.

Get out, instead of becoming a gray bar motel resident.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 29, 2025 11:07 AM (Ut2e7)

22 I'd be willing to bet the northern border is going to be every bit as dysfunctional as the southern one in about 2 years or less. Maybe not with some sort of mass migration or maybe it will. There will certainly be an increased amount of dumbfuckery up there regardless.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 29, 2025 11:07 AM (Q4IgG)

23 My guess is that western Canada (especially Alberta) is going to be increasingly unsatisfied with the rules placed on them by the east.

Our 51st state might be Alberta.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian

We'll take everything from Alberta westward.

Maybe that way Parker Schnabel and the rest of Gold Rush can start blasting instead of wasting time trying to dig frozen ground.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2025 11:07 AM (KP+Ym)

24 SCOTUS declares Medicare/Social Security/etc benefits as "cash" when calculating the Medicare reimbursement to hospitals.
Posted by: SMOD at April 29, 2025 11:06 AM

What is the effect of this ruling?

Posted by: toby928 at April 29, 2025 11:07 AM (jc0TO)

25 What is the “proponent agency” as it were, that compels these assclowns to declare “net zero” and outlawing coal, gas, and oil? Who is ordering them to do this? Under what authority?

Because this isn’t voluntary. Nobody voted for this. They are being forced to “nudge” whole regions to adopt unworkable, ruinously expensive “solutions” that don’t pencil out to problems that don’t exist.

Nobody calls them out. Not a single “reporter” or news org. What’s up with that?

Posted by: Common Tater at April 29, 2025 11:08 AM (VRkwH)

26 UPS will cut 20,000 jobs this year after breaking with its biggest customer Amazon. The delivery giant is looking to slash costs after its decision in January to halve the number of Amazon deliveries it takes. Deliveries for the e-commerce giant makes up around 12 percent of UPS's revenue, the company said. However, UPS said the profit margins for Amazon deliveries were too small and it wanted to refocus on more lucrative markets such as healthcare and international deliveries. The decision will also lead to the closure of 73 UPS buildings this year, the company said on Tuesday.

Posted by: SMOD at April 29, 2025 11:05 AM (RHGPo)

Yeah, more USPS "deliveries."

*stews*

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 29, 2025 11:08 AM (i24o9)

27 "13 And I am packing up today to hit the road back to the Demented Dominion. "

Take cash. Your bank account could disappear at any moment.

Posted by: Next2Nothing at April 29, 2025 11:08 AM (tA1/w)

28 20 It's easy (and correct) to say that Poilievre couldn't articulate such a vision, but I believe in this case Trump could have helped him a little bit. He was so satisfied in getting Castreau out using an axe that he didn't bother to use the scalpel to separate what the two parties themselves were doing.

That said, I was really surprised that a skilled politician like Poilievre said basically nothing that I can recall about Trump and Canada. And now even he is out of a seat; he was ousted by a Liberal.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 29, 2025 11:07 AM (KOSi

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Poilievre also ended up promising to keep up importing immigrants at ridiculous levels.

He was going for Labour-lite.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at April 29, 2025 11:08 AM (GBKbO)

29 Our 51st state might be Alberta.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at April 29, 2025 11:02 AM (N1tpc)

I would be completely happy with Territorial status.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 29, 2025 11:08 AM (8zz6B)

30 6 Perhaps we could add Canada to the prayer list. May God have mercy on their souls.
Posted by: Next2Nothing at April 29, 2025 11:02 AM (tA1/w)

You're nicer than me... They made their bed.. Let them lie in it...
Posted by: It's me donna at April 29, 2025 11:03 AM (VE6XX)

They made their silly hat. Let them wear it.

Posted by: LASue at April 29, 2025 11:08 AM (lCppi)

31 Canadians are North American Europeans. I think Western Canadians are different though.

Posted by: steevy at April 29, 2025 11:08 AM (YwEeS)

32 Schumer: ‘It’s been 100 days of hell’ under Trump

.. my heart bleeds for you

Posted by: SMOD at April 29, 2025 11:08 AM (RHGPo)

33 19 So the blame will get put on Trump?

Cause he trash talked Canada and in response Canada shot themselves in the head?

Bizzaro world.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 29, 2025 11:07 AM (gMWM2

Yes.. The "media" is already having a field day

Posted by: It's me donna at April 29, 2025 11:09 AM (VE6XX)

34 Canada is run by about 5 socialist cities - there's not enough of a population in the rest of the country to outvote them.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 29, 2025 11:09 AM (uWKK8)

35 I would like to get Flin Flon, Manitoba, too. Just for the name.

Posted by: Bulg at April 29, 2025 11:09 AM (77rzZ)

36 30 6 Perhaps we could add Canada to the prayer list. May God have mercy on their souls.
Posted by: Next2Nothing at April 29, 2025 11:02 AM (tA1/w)

You're nicer than me... They made their bed.. Let them lie in it...
Posted by: It's me donna at April 29, 2025 11:03 AM (VE6XX)

They made their silly hat. Let them wear it.
Posted by: LASue at April 29, 2025 11:08 AM (lCppi)

They shit their pants. Let them sit in it.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 29, 2025 11:09 AM (gMWM2)

37 Wow, that Trump can do anything even lose elections in Canada!

Posted by: steevy at April 29, 2025 11:10 AM (YwEeS)

38 It can be lunch time, my coworkers took the last hour

Posted by: Skip at April 29, 2025 11:10 AM (IcqHg)

39 Won't we regret it when America is faced with the powerful Sino-Canadian Alliance.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at April 29, 2025 11:10 AM (muwun)

40 Can we just invade Canada like the olden days??

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 29, 2025 11:10 AM (gMWM2)

41 AOP, you should become a US citizen and lobby Trump to become his Secretary of Energy.

Posted by: Bulg at April 29, 2025 11:10 AM (77rzZ)

42 AoP I would be wary of any such newly created groups. It could all be a trap.

Get out, instead of becoming a gray bar motel resident.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 29, 2025 11:07 AM (Ut2e7)

Good point.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 29, 2025 11:10 AM (8zz6B)

43 Pierre Poilievre going against POTUS Trump was the beginning of the end of his campaign.

I feel sorry for the Cannucks having a competent socialist now as head of their government. Socialism will be on steroids.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at April 29, 2025 11:11 AM (17s+e)

44 Canadians are North American Europeans. I think Western Canadians are different though.
Posted by: steevy at April 29, 2025 11:08 AM (YwEeS)

BC is heavily, heavily Chinese, with lots of Japanese and Vietnamese mixed in. Probably lots of Indians as well now, too.

Posted by: LASue at April 29, 2025 11:11 AM (lCppi)

45 39 Won't we regret it when America is faced with the powerful Sino-Canadian Alliance.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at April 29, 2025 11:10 AM (muwun)

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So...Canada will import more cheap Chinese products and Canada will export more paper to China?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at April 29, 2025 11:11 AM (GBKbO)

46 I knew a woman moved to Canada because it was more akin to the Eastern Bloc country she fled in the 1960's.

Socialist.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 29, 2025 11:11 AM (Q4IgG)

47 Canada is run by about 5 socialist cities - there's not enough of a population in the rest of the country to outvote them.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 29, 2025 11:09 AM (uWKK

They are essentially a blue state, they talk funny, and their shit's all retarded.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 29, 2025 11:11 AM (i24o9)

48 The NACA, later NASA, actually poached quite a few Canadian engineers from AVRO the Canucks had some good engineers.

Posted by: Common Tater at April 29, 2025 11:11 AM (VRkwH)

49 Meghan Markle has got, like, ten jobs.

https://shorturl.at/kuTla

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 29, 2025 11:11 AM (L/fGl)

50 "WARNING: Objects in the Mercator projection are smaller than they appear."

Posted by: muldoon at April 29, 2025 11:12 AM (uCfKO)

51 Can we just invade Canada like the olden days??
Posted by: AlaBAMA

Yeah, about that...
-- Zombie Generals Richard Montgomery and Benedict Arnold

Posted by: Bulg at April 29, 2025 11:12 AM (77rzZ)

52 So...Canada will import more cheap Chinese products and Canada will export more paper to China?

If Canada is smart it will focus its imports to China on females. China doesn't have a lot of those.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at April 29, 2025 11:12 AM (muwun)

53 I was thinking of Alberta, Manitoba and the Yukon.

Posted by: steevy at April 29, 2025 11:12 AM (YwEeS)

54 Exports.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at April 29, 2025 11:12 AM (muwun)

55 Schumer: ‘It’s been 100 days of hell’ under Trump

.. my heart bleeds for you
Posted by: SMOD at April 29, 2025 11:08 AM (RHGPo)

Definetly true, for illegals and grifters (ie Dems and the mom) . For the rest of us? Bliss.

Posted by: LASue at April 29, 2025 11:13 AM (lCppi)

56 "WARNING: Objects in the Mercator projection are smaller than they appear."

Posted by: muldoon at April 29, 2025 11:12 AM (uCfKO)

Canada: We were in the pool, eh!

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 29, 2025 11:13 AM (i24o9)

57 Those engineers were jobless after the Canadian government cancelled the CF-105 Arrow in the 1960s.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 29, 2025 11:13 AM (Ut2e7)

58 15 UPS will cut 20,000 jobs this year after breaking with its biggest customer Amazon. The delivery giant is looking to slash costs after its decision in January to halve the number of Amazon deliveries it takes. Deliveries for the e-commerce giant makes up around 12 percent of UPS's revenue, the company said. However, UPS said the profit margins for Amazon deliveries were too small and it wanted to refocus on more lucrative markets such as healthcare and international deliveries. The decision will also lead to the closure of 73 UPS buildings this year, the company said on Tuesday.

Here's a good video on drone deliveries.
https://youtu.be/88yQTzlmsiA

Posted by: Archimedes at April 29, 2025 11:13 AM (s8j++)

59 52 So...Canada will import more cheap Chinese products and Canada will export more paper to China?

If Canada is smart it will focus its imports to China on females. China doesn't have a lot of those.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at April 29, 2025 11:12 AM (muwun)

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China is going to focus on importing poor people from India and making tough sounds against Trump.

All while their export-based economy shrinks.

I think Canada should go full Leroy Jenkins. Nothing bad could happen to them.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at April 29, 2025 11:13 AM (GBKbO)

60 President Trump's tariff offensive is a powerful reminder to Canada that they are indeed America's hat.

America's dunce cap, more like.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at April 29, 2025 11:14 AM (Dg2sF)

61 Posted by: SMOD at April 29, 2025 11:05 AM (RHGPo)

You just can't help yourself, huh?

Threadjacking is in your DNA.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 29, 2025 11:14 AM (mWSu4)

62 I saw a post elsewhere today about a possible plan by Amazon to start showing how much of their items' prices goes to tariffs, and that this was a Bad Thing. Seems to me that's a good idea for people who want to stop buying Chinese crap, no?

Posted by: Octochicken at April 29, 2025 11:14 AM (oCS0o)

63 57 Revisionist history is that a jealous US crushed the program...

Posted by: steevy at April 29, 2025 11:14 AM (YwEeS)

64 62 I saw a post elsewhere today about a possible plan by Amazon to start showing how much of their items' prices goes to tariffs, and that this was a Bad Thing. Seems to me that's a good idea for people who want to stop buying Chinese crap, no?
Posted by: Octochicken at April 29, 2025 11:14 AM (oCS0o)

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It was apparently fake news. Amazon itself denied it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at April 29, 2025 11:14 AM (GBKbO)

65 I'm not so sure that their current flaccid culture isn't a recent development. Canadian soldiers were among the most feared by the Nazis.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 29, 2025 11:04 AM (s8j++)

Canada's universal healthcare system, known as Medicare, was established through a series of steps. The journey began with the introduction of universal hospital insurance in 1958, followed by medical insurance in 1962.
The federal government passed the Medical Care Act in 1966, which outlined cost-sharing and required provincial plans to be universal and publicly administered before transfer payments were made.
This act went into effect in July 1968, with only British Columbia and Saskatchewan initially eligible for federal contributions.
By January 1971, all provinces had joined the program.
Further reforms were made with the passage of the Canada Health Act in 1984, which included penalties for user fees and extra billing.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 29, 2025 11:14 AM (ExV1e)

66 That said, I was really surprised that a skilled politician like Poilievre said basically nothing that I can recall about Trump and Canada. And now even he is out of a seat; he was ousted by a Liberal.

That's really disappointing. I had such high hopes for PP.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 29, 2025 11:15 AM (s8j++)

67 I was thinking of Alberta, Manitoba and the Yukon.
Posted by: steevy

Manitoba westward. Saskatchewan, Alberta, BC, Yukon, NW Territories.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2025 11:15 AM (KP+Ym)

68 Canada is lost. Britain is next. Congressional races in 2026 are critical to America's survival. I believe Rs will prevail because the Left pushes insane policies.

Posted by: JM in Illinois at April 29, 2025 11:15 AM (e1HT8)

69 So, how long does it take Canada to ban X?

I give it three months at most.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 29, 2025 11:15 AM (xTIDn)

70 If any of you ever get a chance to watch the Canadian sitcom "Corner Gas," you should definitely check it out. One of the funniest shows I've ever seen.

One of the best things to come out of Canada since Lightfoot.

Posted by: Bulg at April 29, 2025 11:15 AM (77rzZ)

71 Without the United States, Manitoba and Saskatchewan would be known as People's Collective Wheat Farms #52 and #53.

> If Canada is smart it will focus its imports to China on females. China doesn't have a lot of those.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at April 29, 2025 11:12 AM (muwun)

Canada doesn't either. Most of their prime trim winds up on a pole somewhere in the United States. Occasionally in Hollywood, but usually on the pole.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 29, 2025 11:16 AM (W5ArC)

72 Like all of us we see Canada sinking like the Titanic but do really feel for our few regulars who are stuck . Wonder how many Lurkers we have up north?

Posted by: Skip at April 29, 2025 11:16 AM (IcqHg)

73 The mouse and elephant joke I think of is:

A mouse is wandering in the savanna when he comes across an elephant. It's been a long time since the mouse has been around any female mice and asks the elephant if he can have a go. The elephant thinking 'lwhat's the harm?' agrees to it and the mouse climbs up behind the elephant and starts going to town.

A big game hunter happens along about that time and seeing the elephant, take aim with his shotgun. Blam! and buckshot peppers the elephant's side.

"Ouch!!!!" Yells the elephant.

"Suffer, bitch!" Says the mouse.

Posted by: Darth Randall at April 29, 2025 11:16 AM (SCEIr)

74 BC is heavily, heavily Chinese, with lots of Japanese and Vietnamese mixed in. Probably lots of Indians as well now, too.
Posted by: LASue at April 29, 2025 11:11 AM (lCppi)

Despite that, as of the standings when I went to bed, they had elected more Conservatives than Liberals. BC didn't lose the election for the Conservatives, Quebec did. Other Liberal strongholds were Nova Scotia and Prince Edward Island. But they don't have a lot of seats

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 29, 2025 11:16 AM (8zz6B)

75 That said, I was really surprised that a skilled politician like Poilievre said basically nothing that I can recall about Trump and Canada. And now even he is out of a seat; he was ousted by a Liberal.

That's really disappointing. I had such high hopes for PP.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 29, 2025 11:15 AM (s8j++)

His apple-eating shtick turned out to be the high water mark of his entire political career.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at April 29, 2025 11:16 AM (muwun)

76 Canada is the donut shop in the lobby of the police station, and thinking "look at how powerful and impressive we are! No one would dare try to take us over! We're better than all those cops!" is somehow more about their personal beliefs and attitudes (yeah, we hate the cops, too!) instead of their location. But the facts remain: the Canadian military is smaller than all but one member of NATO (since Iceland has no military whatsoever), and would lose to the NYPD, never mind any actual US soldiers. Their economy would collapse, and their vaunted Commonwealth wouldn't be enough to save them, should some Democrat President decide to invade.

Posted by: Drumwaster at April 29, 2025 11:17 AM (uqpWt)

77 SCOTUS declares Medicare/Social Security/etc benefits as "cash" when calculating the Medicare reimbursement to hospitals.
Posted by: SMOD at April 29, 2025 11:06 AM (RHGPo)

I recognize all those words but the meaning you are attempting to impart eludes me.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 29, 2025 11:17 AM (ExV1e)

78 The Canadians bought into that British White Hall paper that predicted that missiles and only missiles were the future.

So many promising military aircraft died due to that paper.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 29, 2025 11:17 AM (Ut2e7)

79 His apple-eating shtick turned out to be the high water mark of his entire political career.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at April 29, 2025 11:16 AM (muwun)

It appears so...

Posted by: It's me donna at April 29, 2025 11:17 AM (VE6XX)

80 Canada has the same population of California with the politics to match.

I worked for a Canadian company and some of the best memories I've had were of Christmas in Montreal, sadly, those long ago days are gone.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 29, 2025 11:17 AM (XV/Pl)

81 > It was apparently fake news. Amazon itself denied it.
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I think it was a plausible idea the clowns running Amazon thought of. The realization how totally asinine it was probably occurred a few hours after the announcement, if there was such.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 29, 2025 11:17 AM (Q4IgG)

82 78 It's the current vogue again just adding drones to the missiles....

Posted by: steevy at April 29, 2025 11:18 AM (YwEeS)

83 Canadian Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre Loses National Election AND His Seat in Parliament

Posted by: SMOD at April 29, 2025 11:18 AM (RHGPo)

84 83 Canadian Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre Loses National Election AND His Seat in Parliament
Posted by: SMOD at April 29, 2025 11:18 AM (RHGPo)

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Now that's what I call an on-topic comment.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at April 29, 2025 11:18 AM (GBKbO)

85 > Canadian military is smaller than all but one member of NATO (since Iceland has no military whatsoever), and would lose to the NYPD, never mind any actual US soldiers.

They'd lose to a typical Cub Scout troop. Mexico could take them in a fair fight.

That's not a slur on individual Canadian soldiers, let me add. As individuals, they tend to be quite good.

Unfortunately Canada only has about a dozen or so of them.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 29, 2025 11:19 AM (W5ArC)

86 You know what California needs? More welfare fraud!

Bill Melugin@BillMelugin_
NEW: California Democrat state senator Lola Smallwood-Cuevas has introduced SB560, a bill that would decriminalize welfare fraud below an amount of $25,000. It would also prohibit prosecutions for attempted welfare fraud and would prohibit someone from being charged w/ perjury if they are subject to prosecution for welfare fraud.
Smallwood-Cuevas represents a large chunk of Los Angeles County, including Mar Vista, West LA, Baldwin Hills, Ladera Heights, Century City, Playa Vista, and part of downtown LA.
SB560 is scheduled for a hearing next Monday on May 5th.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 29, 2025 11:19 AM (L/fGl)

87 Three children and a teenager were killed and others were injured when a car drove through an after-school building in a small city outside Springfield, Illinois, but authorities said Tuesday it likely was not a targeted attack.

Springfield, Springfield, one hell of a town
Runaway car put four kids in the ground

Posted by: SMOD at April 29, 2025 11:20 AM (RHGPo)

88 But the facts remain: the Canadian military is smaller than all but one member of NATO (since Iceland has no military whatsoever), and would lose to the NYPD, never mind any actual US soldiers.
Posted by: Drumwaster

Their active and reserve military is six times smaller than registered Michigan hunters.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2025 11:20 AM (KP+Ym)

89 Poilievre has now personally experienced the merciless ferocity of the Trump Curse.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at April 29, 2025 11:20 AM (muwun)

90 Other Liberal strongholds were Nova Scotia and Prince Edward Island. But they don't have a lot of seats

I read that the Atlantic provinces of Canada are massively overrepresented in Parliament, compared to Alberta.

Have to keep the energy colony down, after all.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 29, 2025 11:20 AM (xTIDn)

91 Don't assume that just because we Americans CAN produce something, we'll actually be allowed to.

Up here in the wastelands of Maine, we have both maple syrup (yay, I guess, I'm a Type 1) and lumber.

The Sugar Shacks are a cottage industry up here for the most part. Side shows to other agricultural products made on the same property. The forest plumbing setups are quite interesting when the pop up in late winter. But for whatever reason, maple syrup isn't really a huge money maker here. As for lumber, we cut a lot of trees up here. Most of my offroad adventures are in private owned logging plantations... hell the entire North Maine Woods is nothing but a logging operation - but even then its the mills that are the logjam. They've slowly shut down over the decades - and the lumber industry isn't very keen on exposing itself to capital risk by investing in production capacity due to lumber price fluctuations. It became a real issue during the building boom koof time.

Posted by: Defenestratus at April 29, 2025 11:21 AM (WYStd)

92 Canada doesn't either. Most of their prime trim winds up on a pole somewhere in the United States. Occasionally in Hollywood, but usually on the pole.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 29, 2025 11:16 AM (W5ArC)

Sometimes both! Shannon Tweed, Sandra Oh, Jennifer Tilly, Pamela Anderson, Elisha Cuthbert.

Posted by: LASue at April 29, 2025 11:21 AM (lCppi)

93 Coming up in just a little over 6 months is the 50th anniversary of the sinking of the Edmund Fitzgerald. An apt metaphor for the entire vast nation going under.

Posted by: Glub, Glub at April 29, 2025 11:21 AM (G5+As)

94 @84

>>Now that's what I call an on-topic comment.

At least the Canadians have clarified what they want in government and it seems to be Hardcore Leftism.

And as a sage old mayor once opined, The Voters Have Spoken and Now They Must Be Punished.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 29, 2025 11:21 AM (XV/Pl)

95 I think it was a plausible idea the clowns running Amazon thought of. The realization how totally asinine it was probably occurred a few hours after the announcement, if there was such.
Posted by: Martini Farmer

Phone lines burning up at Amazon HQ: "Are you f'n nuts?"

Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2025 11:22 AM (KP+Ym)

96 Judges are not above the law —even when they are doing their best impression of a jackass

Posted by: SMOD at April 29, 2025 11:22 AM (RHGPo)

97 Smallwood-Cuevas represents a large chunk of Los Angeles County, including Mar Vista, West LA, Baldwin Hills, Ladera Heights, Century City, Playa Vista, and part of downtown LA.

I could see a constituency for welfare fraud in Baldwin Hills and Ladera Heights but the rest of that territory is pretty non-ghetto.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at April 29, 2025 11:22 AM (muwun)

98 94 At least the Canadians have clarified what they want in government and it seems to be Hardcore Leftism.

And as a sage old mayor once opined, The Voters Have Spoken and Now They Must Be Punished.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 29, 2025 11:21 AM (XV/Pl)

=======

The elections were held 4 weeks ago and we're just finally getting the results, right?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at April 29, 2025 11:22 AM (GBKbO)

99 Chucky, here's hoping the next 100 days are even worse for you than the first 100

Posted by: Skip at April 29, 2025 11:22 AM (IcqHg)

100 Poilievre should have laughed off Trump's comments. He should have said only "I'm looking forward to working with President Trump in the best interests of both countries. We both want to make our nations great again." He miscalculated to a degree I wouldn't have imagined. He seemed a dynamic, articulate and unflappable politician who gave much better than he got with the media. What a collapse.

Posted by: Ordinary American at April 29, 2025 11:22 AM (h/ffs)

101 If any of you ever get a chance to watch the Canadian sitcom "Corner Gas," you should definitely check it out. One of the funniest shows I've ever seen.

Is it as funny as Trailer Park Boys?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at April 29, 2025 11:23 AM (Dg2sF)

102 Canada has to stay a safe refuge for all the losers that want to leave the country because Trump's winning

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 29, 2025 11:23 AM (gMWM2)

103 I'm not so sure that their current flaccid culture isn't a recent development. Canadian soldiers were among the most feared by the Nazis.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 29, 2025 11:04 AM (s8j++)

Canada suffers from the same ailment that the Democrats suffer with Trump.

The Dims only see themselves as a party/individuals who do the opposite of Trump. They reject anything, no matter how good for the country, no matter how common sense, no matter how popular just as long as as it's in direct opposition to whatever Trump is doing. It's stupid and childish.

Canada tries to define itself as "Not America", which they kinda are anyway, since they remained locked lip to tit with Old Blighty, while we went free.

It's stupid and childish, but there you go.

Aaaaaand, they have already made their choice that their future is Chinese. They have a treaty with the Chinese that allows the Chinese military landing rights on Canada soil to protect Chinese goods, property, and lives within their country

Instead, of pissing about tariffs, they should get working on their Moo Goo Gai Poutine.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 29, 2025 11:23 AM (iJfKG)

104 58 Here's a good video on drone deliveries.
https://youtu.be/88yQTzlmsiA

can't check from work, so i'm'a just assume stukas and yakkety sax

Posted by: anachronda at April 29, 2025 11:23 AM (sGtp+)

105
They are an odd people living in an odd country

Felix and Oscar meet Bob and Doug.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 29, 2025 11:23 AM (63Dwl)

106 In the next 100 days may the Democrats be driven to drink that devil drink

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 29, 2025 11:24 AM (Ut2e7)

107 If any of you ever get a chance to watch the Canadian sitcom "Corner Gas," you should definitely check it out. One of the funniest shows I've ever seen.

Is it as funny as Trailer Park Boys?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing

Since I've never seen Trailer Park Boys, I can't say.

Posted by: Bulg at April 29, 2025 11:24 AM (77rzZ)

108 “The claims that the Open Society Foundations, founded by George Soros, receive funding from USAID or direct the funding of a multibillion-dollar U.S. government agency are manifestly false,” OSF falsely claimed February 12.

Posted by: SMOD at April 29, 2025 11:24 AM (RHGPo)

109 Canada doesn't either. Most of their prime trim winds up on a pole somewhere in the United States. Occasionally in Hollywood, but usually on the pole.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 29, 2025 11:16 AM (W5ArC)

You mean to tell me that Letterkenny and Shoresey aren't 100% accurate in their depiction of nearly every Canadian woman as a smoke show?

Posted by: Defenestratus at April 29, 2025 11:25 AM (WYStd)

110 Aaaaaand, they have already made their choice that their future is Chinese. They have a treaty with the Chinese that allows the Chinese military landing rights on Canada soil to protect Chinese goods, property, and lives within their country

Instead, of pissing about tariffs, they should get working on their Moo Goo Gai Poutine.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 29, 2025 11:23 AM (iJfKG)

The love them some Cream of Sum Yung Gi?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 29, 2025 11:25 AM (i24o9)

111 I was reading some of the comments on The Telegraph this morning. I think they were truly surprised that Canada voted for Castreau 2 just because Trump said some mean things. A few made the point that the "conservative" was about as conservative as David Cameron. So this is probably a better outcome for Trump.

Posted by: Ann ExPat at April 29, 2025 11:25 AM (2jgYH)

112 “The claims that the Open Society Foundations, founded by George Soros, receive funding from USAID or direct the funding of a multibillion-dollar U.S. government agency are manifestly false,” OSF falsely claimed February 12.

So nice to have that question settled once and for all.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at April 29, 2025 11:26 AM (muwun)

113 89 Poilievre has now personally experienced the merciless ferocity of the Trump Curse.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at April 29, 2025 11:20 AM (muwun)

---

There is no curse like the Obama curse.

Posted by: JM in Illinois at April 29, 2025 11:26 AM (3/wVh)

114 Rock and roll!

New York Post@nypost
$56 million fighter jet rolls off USS Harry S. Truman aircraft carrier after it made sudden turn to avoid Houthi attack: report https://trib.al/C5lalzQ

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 29, 2025 11:26 AM (L/fGl)

115 California Democrat state senator Lola Smallwood-Cuevas has introduced SB560, a bill that would decriminalize welfare fraud below an amount of $25,000. It would also prohibit prosecutions for attempted welfare fraud and would prohibit someone from being charged w/ perjury if they are subject to prosecution for welfare fraud.

Over / under on how much welfare fraud has been indulged in by her or her family?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at April 29, 2025 11:26 AM (Dg2sF)

116 77 SCOTUS declares Medicare/Social Security/etc benefits as "cash" when calculating the Medicare reimbursement to hospitals.
Posted by: SMOD at April 29, 2025 11:06 AM (RHGPo)

I recognize all those words but the meaning you are attempting to impart eludes me.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 29, 2025 11:17 AM (ExV1e)

9-0 - status quo stays status quo. 2 liberals concurred with separate opinion.

Posted by: Nova Local at April 29, 2025 11:26 AM (tOcjL)

117 @98

>>The elections were held 4 weeks ago and we're just finally getting the results, right?

I think they use rank choice voting, but regardless, the lefts victory was a blowout and, knowing many Canadians through work, to a man and women, this is what they wanted.

As I said, it's clarifying, Canadians are not our allies and the sooner that reality sets in the better.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 29, 2025 11:27 AM (XV/Pl)

118 Poilievre should have laughed off Trump's comments. He should have said only "I'm looking forward to working with President Trump in the best interests of both countries. We both want to make our nations great again." He miscalculated to a degree I wouldn't have imagined. He seemed a dynamic, articulate and unflappable politician who gave much better than he got with the media. What a collapse.
Posted by: Ordinary American at April 29, 2025 11:22 AM (h/ffs)

I'm assuming he employed rock-ribbed conservative campaign advisors.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 29, 2025 11:27 AM (ExV1e)

119 OT Bezos was going to publish the tariff costs along with price. It is said he backed down due to being accused of playing politics. Maybe he realized simple math would tell everybody how much (how little) he was paying for a product.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 29, 2025 11:27 AM (gm9Sb)

120 > I recognize all those words but the meaning you are attempting to impart eludes me.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 29, 2025 11:17 AM (ExV1e)

Near as I can figure (not a lawyer), hospitals get more gummint money if they treat low-income patients, specifically those who receive SSI (which is a different thing from regular SS and also a different thing from SSDI).

The hospitals argued that non-cash benefits (e.g., job training) should also count as "receiving SSI", so they could get more government loot. The Supremes said GFY, 7-2.

The Dimwitted Latina and Jackass dissented.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 29, 2025 11:27 AM (W5ArC)

121 116 77 SCOTUS declares Medicare/Social Security/etc benefits as "cash" when calculating the Medicare reimbursement to hospitals.
Posted by: SMOD at April 29, 2025 11:06 AM (RHGPo)

I recognize all those words but the meaning you are attempting to impart eludes me.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 29, 2025 11:17 AM (ExV1e)

9-0 - status quo stays status quo. 2 liberals concurred with separate opinion.

Posted by: Nova Local at April 29, 2025 11:26 AM (tOcjL)

CORRECTION - my bad - 2 liberals DISSENTED. So, you know the overall decision is fine.

Posted by: Nova Local at April 29, 2025 11:27 AM (tOcjL)

122 My wife shared an interesting article with me about one of the reasons Canada is the way it is. Once we declared independence from Britain, all of the officials in the colonies representing the crown -- judges, tax collectors, etc. -- beat cheeks to Canada to avoid retribution at the hands of the colonists. They then became the ruling elite there, and the rest is history.

Posted by: Bulg at April 29, 2025 11:28 AM (77rzZ)

123 I'm assuming he employed rock-ribbed conservative campaign advisors.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 29, 2025 11:27 AM (ExV1e)

Steve Schmidt is working again?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at April 29, 2025 11:28 AM (muwun)

124 111 I was reading some of the comments on The Telegraph this morning. I think they were truly surprised that Canada voted for Castreau 2 just because Trump said some mean things. A few made the point that the "conservative" was about as conservative as David Cameron. So this is probably a better outcome for Trump.
Posted by: Ann ExPat at April 29, 2025 11:25 AM (2jgYH)

========

"Conservative" parties across the western world are at some sort of nadir regarding how their leadership isn't conservative at all, constantly lies blatantly about their positions on the biggest and most important issues to their countries, and the people finally beginning to notice.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at April 29, 2025 11:28 AM (GBKbO)

125 Truman battle group has been jinxed this deployment. First getting an F-18F shot down by 'friendly' fire, the carrier rammed by a bulk carrier, and now this.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 29, 2025 11:28 AM (Ut2e7)

126 Sometimes both! Shannon Tweed, Sandra Oh, Jennifer Tilly, Pamela Anderson, Elisha Cuthbert.
Posted by: LASue

Sandra Oh - Dancing at the Blue Iguana.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2025 11:29 AM (KP+Ym)

127 Damn hillbillies!

Leading Report7@LeadingReport
BREAKING: Mississippi, Louisiana fourth- and eighth-grade math scores surpass New York and California in 2024, per NAEP-adjusted results.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 29, 2025 11:29 AM (L/fGl)

128 Off-topic:

Here's an interesting looking upcoming horror(?) movie-

"Weapons"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lYsPh3gw70&t=114s

Posted by: naturalfake at April 29, 2025 11:29 AM (iJfKG)

129
Depressing. They burn churches at European rates up there, express solidarity with the Cuban dictatorship, and are on a weekly search for new topics to criticize the USA over.

God forbid they become a state, because they make California look moderate.

Posted by: Auspex at April 29, 2025 11:29 AM (j4U/Z)

130 117 I think they use rank choice voting, but regardless, the lefts victory was a blowout and, knowing many Canadians through work, to a man and women, this is what they wanted.

As I said, it's clarifying, Canadians are not our allies and the sooner that reality sets in the better.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 29, 2025 11:27 AM (XV/Pl)

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Looking at the results, this doesn't look like a blowout at all.

Labor doesn't even look to have a majority. They're probably about 4 seats short.

Now, Labour in England last year...that was a blowout.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at April 29, 2025 11:30 AM (GBKbO)

131 127 Damn hillbillies!

Leading Report7@LeadingReport
BREAKING: Mississippi, Louisiana fourth- and eighth-grade math scores surpass New York and California in 2024, per NAEP-adjusted results.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 29, 2025 11:29 AM (L/fGl)

=======

Not possible.

They don't spend as much per student.

I've been told the only way to get better results is to spend more per student.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at April 29, 2025 11:30 AM (GBKbO)

132 Edmund Fitzgerald was an American freighter, not Canadian.

Posted by: AoSHQ fact-checker at April 29, 2025 11:31 AM (Y1sOo)

133 Sandra Oh - Dancing at the Blue Iguana.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2025 11:29 AM (KP+Ym)

Yep, along with Daryl Hannah IIRC. A sad but somewhat interesting and uncomfortable movie.

Posted by: LASue at April 29, 2025 11:31 AM (lCppi)

134 As I said, it's clarifying, Canadians are not our allies and the sooner that reality sets in the better.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 29, 2025 11:27 AM

canada hasn't been our ally since 1947. Just like the rest of the world they have been hanging onto our coat tails and sucking off the American dollar since the end of WWII.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 29, 2025 11:31 AM (e5NfL)

135 OT Bezos was going to publish the tariff costs along with price. It is said he backed down due to being accused of playing politics. Maybe he realized simple math would tell everybody how much (how little) he was paying for a product.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 29, 2025 11:27 AM (gm9Sb)

Jeff Bezos, shopkeeper, is a tier 1 example of someone who had a good idea at the right time, got rich, and decided that meant he was smart. He tries so very, very hard to be Elon Musk.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 29, 2025 11:32 AM (ExV1e)

136 I look at Canada the same way I look at Europe. If they want to commit suicide, more power to them.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 29, 2025 11:32 AM (u73oe)

137 > OT Bezos was going to publish the tariff costs along with price. It is said he backed down due to being accused of playing politics.
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It's exactly what Amazon was doing. Whether it was Bezos idea is debatable... but I'd not bet against it.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 29, 2025 11:33 AM (Q4IgG)

138 125 Truman battle group has been jinxed this deployment. First getting an F-18F shot down by 'friendly' fire, the carrier rammed by a bulk carrier, and now this.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 29, 2025 11:28 AM (Ut2e7)

Or - you know - we're just not good at sh*t like this anymore.

The crisis of competence is a real measurable thing. I experience it every day. In fact just this morning, my boss told me that I have to go build a database for a project because none of the "programmers" left in my old department know how to do it themselves. I haven't had to build a study database in like, a decade or more.

That same kind of corruption has made its way into the military.

Posted by: Defenestratus at April 29, 2025 11:33 AM (WYStd)

139 I look at Canada the same way I look at Europe. If they want to commit suicide, more power to them.
Posted by: Duke Lowell

Except that their successors in the Caliphate will be worse.

Posted by: Bulg at April 29, 2025 11:33 AM (77rzZ)

140 132 Edmund Fitzgerald was an American freighter, not Canadian.
Posted by: AoSHQ fact-checker

Yes, but Lightfoot is the only reason anyone remembers the tub.

Posted by: Glub, Glub, Glub at April 29, 2025 11:33 AM (G5+As)

141 @130

>>Labor doesn't even look to have a majority. They're probably about 4 seats short.

They'll easily get a coalition and simply continue Trudoh's policy platform, this is what the Canadian's want and this is what they are going to get, good and hard.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 29, 2025 11:34 AM (XV/Pl)

142

China dug a tunnel under the pacific ocean to invade America. Due to a navigation error they accidentally came up in Canada.

After thirty minutes, they left.

Posted by: Ped Xing at April 29, 2025 11:34 AM (Kxmx0)

143 >
The elections were held 4 weeks ago and we're just finally getting the results, right?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at April 29, 2025 11:22 AM (GBKbO)

Who becomes PM in a parliamentary system doesn't directly depend on elections. Canadians don't get to vote for, say, Carney or Poilievre (other than the ones who live in their district, or "riding" as the Canadians call it for some fucktarded reason).

What happens is that if one party wins the majority of the seats, the party hacks get together and decide who will become PM. Regular Canadians don't get the slightest say on this.

If no party wins a majority, multiple parties will cut a series of crooked backroom deals to decide who will be PM. Again, regular Canadians don't get a say.

Only party members (usually party insiders) actually get a say -- and you have to pay money to belong to most Canadian political parties.

On top of that, the British Crown (in its diguise as the "Canadian" Crown) appoints two of the three branches of the Canadian Government directly, with no local control whatsoever.

Somehow this is more "democratic" than our Evil Electoral College.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 29, 2025 11:34 AM (W5ArC)

144 Truman battle group has been jinxed this deployment. First getting an F-18F shot down by 'friendly' fire, the carrier rammed by a bulk carrier, and now this.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 29, 2025 11:28 AM (Ut2e7)

I've seen some stuff which suggested it was the other way 'round which was, in turn, the reason they have a new Captain.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 29, 2025 11:34 AM (ExV1e)

145 141 @130

>>Labor doesn't even look to have a majority. They're probably about 4 seats short.

They'll easily get a coalition and simply continue Trudoh's policy platform, this is what the Canadian's want and this is what they are going to get, good and hard.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 29, 2025 11:34 AM (XV/Pl)

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Yes, it's definitely a win.

But having to form a coalition isn't what I'd call a blowout.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at April 29, 2025 11:34 AM (GBKbO)

146 Poilievre even lost his seat in the legislature, or whatever they call it up there.

Posted by: Ordinary American at April 29, 2025 11:35 AM (h/ffs)

147 I went to Canada once...

It was closed.

Posted by: Zombie W.C. Fields at April 29, 2025 11:35 AM (w9Wax)

148 If the Canadians voted in the Liberals because they’re mad at Trump, they’ve cut their whole head to spite their face.
They actually made it easier for Trump to really stick it to Canada because now he doesn’t have to worry about hurting a friendly government.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 29, 2025 11:35 AM (jbnUc)

149 143 Somehow this is more "democratic" than our Evil Electoral College.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 29, 2025 11:34 AM (W5ArC)

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In England last year, Labour won about 33% of the vote.

They ended up with about 75% of the seats in Parliament.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at April 29, 2025 11:35 AM (GBKbO)

150 Does this mean there won't be a 35th season of Murdoch Mysteries????

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 29, 2025 11:35 AM (mlg/3)

151 NPR, Heard on the Morning Edition, NATO Chief calls for more defense spending from Europe and Canada, April 28, 2025

In part, "Speaking with Morning Edition on Friday while visiting Washington for meets with Trump and other top officials, NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte said he agreed with the president's assessment of Europe and Canada's financial contributions to NATO.

Rightly, the U.S. has complained. Particularly, President Trump has been very clear on this - that he expects Europeans and Canada to pay more, to step up in terms of their overall defense spending, and that is going to happen," Rutte said.

(Followed by Interview Highlights)

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at April 29, 2025 11:36 AM (NFX2v)

152
Oh, and the tourism boycott of the Quetico boundary waters has begun, because Ontario has made it too pricey and restrictive to us to go canoeing there this summer.

Their bureaucrats hate their own citizens and business owners more than Americans.

Posted by: Auspex at April 29, 2025 11:36 AM (j4U/Z)

153 Except that their successors in the Caliphate will be worse.
Posted by: Bulg at April 29, 2025 11:33 AM (77rzZ)

—————-

Not our problem. They seem hell bent on becoming third world countries. Time for new alliances and new strategies.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 29, 2025 11:36 AM (u73oe)

154 Truman battle group has been jinxed this deployment. First getting an F-18F shot down by 'friendly' fire, the carrier rammed by a bulk carrier, and now this.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 29, 2025 11:28 AM (Ut2e7)

Or - you know - we're just not good at sh*t like this anymore.

The crisis of competence is a real measurable thing. I experience it every day. In fact just this morning, my boss told me that I have to go build a database for a project because none of the "programmers" left in my old department know how to do it themselves. I haven't had to build a study database in like, a decade or more.

That same kind of corruption has made its way into the military.

Posted by: Defenestratus at April 29, 2025 11:33 AM

Possibly but on the Midway back in 87 we lost two helo's and an EA-6B Prowler with all of it's crew on one cruise. The prowler went down in straight level flight and we never found a trace of wreckage after searching for two days. We rescued the crew of one of the helo's.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 29, 2025 11:37 AM (e5NfL)

155 151 NPR, Heard on the Morning Edition, NATO Chief calls for more defense spending from Europe and Canada, April 28, 2025

In part, "Speaking with Morning Edition on Friday while visiting Washington for meets with Trump and other top officials, NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte said he agreed with the president's assessment of Europe and Canada's financial contributions to NATO.

Rightly, the U.S. has complained. Particularly, President Trump has been very clear on this - that he expects Europeans and Canada to pay more, to step up in terms of their overall defense spending, and that is going to happen," Rutte said.

(Followed by Interview Highlights)
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at April 29, 2025 11:36 AM (NFX2v)

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I'm still waiting for the conversation to start about what to cut to make up this cost:

Welfare to illegals or single payer healthcare spending.

Everyone knows what will win that, and it's not even close.

Welfare to illegals will remain in place.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at April 29, 2025 11:37 AM (GBKbO)

156 @145

>>But having to form a coalition isn't what I'd call a blowout.

Ah, it's a duck, it's just a duck.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 29, 2025 11:37 AM (XV/Pl)

157 The great actress Marie Dressler, of the silent and early-talkie eras, was also Canadian.

Posted by: Bulg at April 29, 2025 11:37 AM (77rzZ)

158 $56 million fighter jet rolls off USS Harry S. Truman aircraft carrier after it made sudden turn to avoid Houthi attack: report https://trib.al/C5lalzQ

Do the Houthis get to count that as a shoot-down?

Posted by: Oddbob at April 29, 2025 11:37 AM (/y8xj)

159 normal Canadians who are not over 65 and not indigenous are getting overwhelmed by those two groups. unfortunately they have a very large (larger than them) Boomer/First People sector who likes to be liberal and get taken care of.

the whole place is basically Vermont writ large

speaking of we should just buy the maple syrup from VT they're dripping in that sugary garbage

Posted by: Black Orchid at April 29, 2025 11:38 AM (Pv3Rg)

160 156 @145

>>But having to form a coalition isn't what I'd call a blowout.

Ah, it's a duck, it's just a duck.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 29, 2025 11:37 AM (XV/Pl)

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More of a Canada Goose, really.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at April 29, 2025 11:38 AM (GBKbO)

161 I think like 90% of canadians live within sight of the US border. They see our big penises and are angry, with their little shrimp dicks and fat women who want dick.

They have penis envy.

Posted by: Heterosexual And Loving It! at April 29, 2025 11:39 AM (979V4)

162 ‘ But he was unable to articulate a vision of Canada that was independent of President Trump's barbs’
Poilievre Isn’t the problem. It’s the voters.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 29, 2025 11:39 AM (jbnUc)

163 In England last year, Labour won about 33% of the vote.

They ended up with about 75% of the seats in Parliament.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at April 29, 2025 11:35 AM (GBKbO)

/sigh

You wouldn't understand. It's metric.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 29, 2025 11:39 AM (ExV1e)

164 The great actress Marie Dressler, of the silent and early-talkie eras, was also Canadian.
Posted by: Bulg at April 29, 2025 11:37 AM (77rzZ)

As was Mary Pickford.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at April 29, 2025 11:39 AM (Dg2sF)

165 163 You wouldn't understand. It's metric.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 29, 2025 11:39 AM (ExV1e)

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Ah, yes.

They system of measure developed my murderous Frenchmen because they wanted Year Zero.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at April 29, 2025 11:39 AM (GBKbO)

166 Good morning, Canada!

Will Kingston@WillKingston
"We have an enormous opportunity to bring climate change into the heart of every financial decision."
- Mark Carney

Good luck, Canada (not that you really deserve it).

-
You know, like Spain and Portugal.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 29, 2025 11:41 AM (L/fGl)

167 As was Mary Pickford.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing

That's right. I had forgotten that about "America's Sweetheart."

Posted by: Bulg at April 29, 2025 11:41 AM (77rzZ)

168 So.

Small sample size here, so I don't know how representative this observation is, but the young idealistic lefties I see on Facebook have been expressing their sympathies for Canada. They seem to think there has been a long train of abuses from the US, and they're not just talking about us calling them America's Hat and making fun of their bacon.

Their lives have no meaning unless they can find something to be outraged about.

Posted by: Emmie at April 29, 2025 11:41 AM (Sf2cq)

169 Apparently more than half of my fellow Canadians are inveterate idiots. I kinda suspected that a long time ago but this election proves it beyond a doubt. They got bored of the puppet’s antics so they brought in the puppet-master instead.

We’ve too long been under the umbrella of protection of the US and become lazy and complacent. “Canadian-nice” will be our epitaph.

I’m shocked that Poilievre lost his own seat of 20 years. He wasn’t my choice as Conservative leader but I backed him as the will of my peers and I loved how he could handle the press. I don’t know if the nice people found that off-putting, but it was refreshing, as can be seen with Trump and his entourage. No, I won’t bother participating in the election of a new Conservative leader and this will probably be the last time I vote. It’s pointless. The country has been over-run by nanny-staters and AWFL’s.

At this point, all I can hope is that my retirement investments aren’t further destroyed by another feckless gov’t in Ottawa. People ran like lemmings away from Trump trolling us about being the 51st state and they’ve run us straight into the arms of the Chinese Communist Party.

Posted by: Marty at April 29, 2025 11:41 AM (zpNiR)

170 The great actress Marie Dressler, of the silent and early-talkie eras, was also Canadian.
Posted by: Bulg at April 29, 2025 11:37 AM (77rzZ)

She was also an infiltrator, employed by the Morality League, to close down strip clubs.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 29, 2025 11:42 AM (ExV1e)

171 I am now Canadian in name only. I hold no further allegiance to a country full of wastrels and imbeciles who clamor to kiss the hand of their oppressor.

The only other thing I have to say is: I. Will. Not. Comply.

Posted by: Marty at April 29, 2025 11:42 AM (zpNiR)

172 @166

>>You know, like Spain and Portugal.

I wonder if you can frack into the Canadian Tar Sands from The US side of the border.

You know, drink their milk shake.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 29, 2025 11:42 AM (XV/Pl)

173 More of a Canada Goose, really.

Useless, makes a lot of noise, sh*ts all over the place, and you can't do a thing about it because they're protected by law? Yeah, sounds about right.

Posted by: Oddbob at April 29, 2025 11:42 AM (/y8xj)

174 Bat Masterson, gunfighter (died of old age, good at his craft) and sportswriter was born Canadian. Immigrated here at an early age due to the 2nd Amendment.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 29, 2025 11:42 AM (gm9Sb)

175 Also, their geese are assholes.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 29, 2025 11:42 AM (u73oe)

176 I've seen some stuff which suggested it was the other way 'round which was, in turn, the reason they have a new Captain.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 29, 2025 11:34 AM (ExV1e)

Its my understanding that if any Navy vessel is involved in a collision, the CO is relieved of command. The same goes for if they run aground IIRC.

Also, the damage to the carrier was on the starboard side of the ship near the stern whereas the damage to the freighter was at the bow.

Could the carrier been at fault? Certainly - but the ramming was done by the vessel with the damage to the bow.

Posted by: Defenestratus at April 29, 2025 11:42 AM (WYStd)

177 There are non-trivial border security issues on the northern side, thanks largely to 2 Canadian policies that of course are also bad for that country - visa-waiver for Mexico, and mass importation of unassimilable and unvetted immigrants, many from jihadish climes. This accounts for Trump's very early public move to force Canada to the table using tariffs. There was a significant terror plot sourced out of Canada (target: Jewish targets in NYC) last December. And visa waiver led to a major infestation of cartel problems.

Cooperation between security and border services is good, but Canadian policies have made what was a relaxed border a pretty troubled one. It's possible the drone Carney will be cooperative on border issues per se, but not sure he will be any better on the idiotic underlying policies that create the problems.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 29, 2025 11:43 AM (1m82a)

178 177 Cooperation between security and border services is good, but Canadian policies have made what was a relaxed border a pretty troubled one. It's possible the drone Carney will be cooperative on border issues per se, but not sure he will be any better on the idiotic underlying policies that create the problems.
Posted by: rhomboid at April 29, 2025 11:43 AM (1m82a)

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The Great Conservative Hope was promising to continue the mass importation of migrants.

Nothing on that front would have changed with a different electoral result.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at April 29, 2025 11:44 AM (GBKbO)

179 Congratulations to Portugal and Spain for achieving Net Zero!

https://tinyurl.com/4u495y65

Posted by: Kindltot at April 29, 2025 11:44 AM (D7oie)

180 157 The great actress Marie Dressler, of the silent and early-talkie eras, was also Canadian.
Posted by: Bulg

Academy Award winning Marie Dressler was at the very top of money-earning female stars in the 1930-32 era, about tied with Garbo. She passed from cancer in 1934, after filming Dinner At Eight, before it was released. Everyone should see that movie.

Posted by: Tillie's Punctured Romance at April 29, 2025 11:44 AM (G5+As)

181 Pretty sad for those of us that live along the border. Lots of friends up there - all from the west. They are just plain screwed. Canada will become a vassal state to the EU with Chicom overseers. Even though I'm a Trump supporter I think he went WAY too far on the 51st state stuff.

Posted by: oldgeezer at April 29, 2025 11:44 AM (5shr5)

182 Useless, makes a lot of noise, sh*ts all over the place, and you can't do a thing about it because they're protected by law? Yeah, sounds about right.

This, too, is the story of Joe Biden.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at April 29, 2025 11:44 AM (Dg2sF)

183 Dinner At Eight, before it was released. Everyone should see that movie.
Posted by: Tillie's Punctured Romance

Absolutely agree. Love that movie. And Dressler steals nearly every scene she's in.

Posted by: Bulg at April 29, 2025 11:46 AM (77rzZ)

184 Congratulations to Portugal and Spain for achieving Net Zero!

https://tinyurl.com/4u495y65

Posted by: Kindltot at April 29, 2025 11:44 AM (D7oie)

AND net neutrality all in one.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 29, 2025 11:46 AM (i24o9)

185 Also, their geese are assholes.
Posted by: Duke Lowell

I'm loath to admit it, but all birbs are assholes. RIP Petey and Simon. I miss them still.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 29, 2025 11:46 AM (mlg/3)

186 Could the carrier been at fault? Certainly - but the ramming was done by the vessel with the damage to the bow.
Posted by: Defenestratus at April 29, 2025 11:42 AM (WYStd)

Fair enough. I didn't care enough to follow any of the links which blamed the CV to see what it was based on.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 29, 2025 11:47 AM (ExV1e)

187 Adios Canada we hardly knew ye! Enjoy your chains and loss of liberty.

Posted by: It's Gonna Be Yuge! at April 29, 2025 11:47 AM (SFMsh)

188 I know I'll get flamed here for this, but Trump's trolling is why this election turned out the way it did.

Canadian voters decided what would be the biggest middle finger to the guy that said he wants to take over your country. It was a 20 point swing from when Trump started the whole "51st state" nonsense.

I'd be pissed if I was a conservative living in Canada. I don't want Canada as part of the US. And they don't either, even in the conservative parts of the country.

Posted by: Leupold at April 29, 2025 11:47 AM (4pwAx)

189 Could the carrier been at fault? Certainly - but the ramming was done by the vessel with the damage to the bow.
Posted by: Defenestratus at April 29, 2025 11:42 AM (WYStd)

Fair enough. I didn't care enough to follow any of the links which blamed the CV to see what it was based on.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 29, 2025 11:47 AM (ExV1e)

If CV voluntarily turned in front of a vessel which could not avoid it, then certainly fault can be found with the CV Captain.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 29, 2025 11:48 AM (i24o9)

190 Posted by: Leupold at April 29, 2025 11:47 AM (4pwAx)

My wife agrees with you.

Posted by: Bulg at April 29, 2025 11:48 AM (77rzZ)

191 188 I know I'll get flamed here for this, but Trump's trolling is why this election turned out the way it did.

Canadian voters decided what would be the biggest middle finger to the guy that said he wants to take over your country. It was a 20 point swing from when Trump started the whole "51st state" nonsense.

I'd be pissed if I was a conservative living in Canada. I don't want Canada as part of the US. And they don't either, even in the conservative parts of the country.
Posted by: Leupold at April 29, 2025 11:47 AM (4pwAx)

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Deciding to continue disastrous policies because another country's political head is making fun of you means that you are deeply irresponsible with the vote and should be denied suffrage for life.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at April 29, 2025 11:49 AM (GBKbO)

192 I know I'll get flamed here for this . . . .

Posted by: Leupold at April 29, 2025 11:47 AM (4pwAx)

Sounds like intuition to fit a preconceived notion.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 29, 2025 11:49 AM (i24o9)

193 I know I'll get flamed here for this, but Trump's trolling is why this election turned out the way it did.

So if you fall for a troll and step on your own dick in the process, whose fault is that?

Posted by: Oddbob at April 29, 2025 11:49 AM (/y8xj)

194 OK, going to be blunt:

I don't give a crap about the 51st state remark. You know why? Because I'm normal and recognize a joke. On the other hand, Canada used its magnificent health care plan that is so superior to ours to excise their sense of humor. Because God forbid they laugh at anything Trump says.

Posted by: NR Pax at April 29, 2025 11:50 AM (NR6c1)

195 193 I know I'll get flamed here for this, but Trump's trolling is why this election turned out the way it did.

So if you fall for a troll and step on your own dick in the process, whose fault is that?
Posted by: Oddbob at April 29, 2025 11:49 AM (/y8xj)

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70% of Canada's economy is exports to the US.

Sure, fight away. I'm sure you'll win. It's not like we can get paper products from anywhere else with trees.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at April 29, 2025 11:50 AM (GBKbO)

196 Josh Hawley has introduced a bill aimed at preventing congresscritters from insider stock trading (which, while illegal for us, is by some coincidence perfectly legal for them).

The name of the bill is "Preventing Elected Leaders from Owning Securities and Investments" (PELOSI).

Good one, Josh.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 29, 2025 11:51 AM (W5ArC)

197 As far as countries go, canada is a popcorn fart in a wind storm. Nobody really cares what they do up there it's just fun to make fun of them because they take themselves so seriously. Can't wait until they forcibly empty out the cities! No hockey for you!

Posted by: Zombie Pol Pot, Pointing and Laughing From Hell at April 29, 2025 11:51 AM (979V4)

198 Also, their geese are assholes.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 29, 2025 11:42 AM (u73oe)

I'll second that.

When I was going through the Navy's Knife and Fork School, Canadian Geese were migrating and stopped there each night for several days.

They, literally, literally carpeted the entire parade grounds in goose shit. Literally. Practically every single square inch had nice green layer of goose poop, which we got to march in every morning and afternoon.

It was delightful.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 29, 2025 11:51 AM (iJfKG)

199 Useless, makes a lot of noise, sh*ts all over the place, and you can't do a thing about it because they're protected by law? Yeah, sounds about right.

Canada goose or deMS-13 Senator?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2025 11:51 AM (KP+Ym)

200 Funniest thing would be an end to the Ukraine War and then we shift all of our paper imports from Canada to Russia.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at April 29, 2025 11:52 AM (GBKbO)

201 Deciding to continue disastrous policies because another country's political head is making fun of you means that you are deeply irresponsible with the vote and should be denied suffrage for life.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at April 29, 2025 11:49 AM (GBKbO)

This. But honestly, no one voted b/c of what Trump said...at least not any differently than they would have anyway.

Posted by: Nova Local at April 29, 2025 11:52 AM (tOcjL)

202 When I was going through the Navy's Knife and Fork School

The Navy had to teach you how to use a knife & fork?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2025 11:53 AM (KP+Ym)

203 Is it me or does anyone else hear a big stupid smelly fly buzzing around here?

Posted by: WitchDoktor at April 29, 2025 11:53 AM (Oq5OE)

204 Canada goose or deMS-13 Senator?

Now that you mention it, that description wasn't nearly as specific as I had intended.

Posted by: Oddbob at April 29, 2025 11:53 AM (/y8xj)

205 Anyone who bothered to do a little research would have understood the protracted process to become a "51st state." Canadians who actually feared or resented this were idiots.

Posted by: Ordinary American at April 29, 2025 11:53 AM (h/ffs)

206 70% of Canada's economy is exports to the US.

wow that's hilarious

and yeah PA is pretty good with paper making too, and could ramp way up quickly

our summer / hunting cabin is near to paper-supplying forest. not a bad neighbor at all, they seem to keep the trees going really well, it's not AT ALL barren and we worry less about forest fires with all the management.

the trucks can be scary tho lol, on those winding roads loaded up with tree trunks

anyway I don't care about Canada the only export from there I still like is Jared Keeso's oeuvre

he's the only thing that makes them more remarkable than Vermont

Posted by: Black Orchid at April 29, 2025 11:54 AM (Pv3Rg)

207 Deciding to continue disastrous policies because another country's political head is making fun of you means that you are deeply irresponsible with the vote and should be denied suffrage for life.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Yes, that is correct. Voters make emotional (and dumb) decisions.

I wouldn't care if this came about over something important, I put USA's needs over Canada's. But Trump never ran on making Canada the 51st state. Not once. It's a stupid issue.

There is ZERO support for this in either canada or USA, and time after time, he would say "no, I'm not kidding".

It just seems very destructive for no good reason.

Posted by: Leupold at April 29, 2025 11:54 AM (4pwAx)

208 Josh Hawley has introduced a bill aimed at preventing congresscritters from insider stock trading (which, while illegal for us, is by some coincidence perfectly legal for them).

The name of the bill is "Preventing Elected Leaders from Owning Securities and Investments" (PELOSI).

Good one, Josh.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 29, 2025 11:51 AM (W5ArC)

It's all bullshit. Every so often they pass a bill like this... big fanfare... totally gonna reform things. A couple years later they add something to some other bill that removes it. No one mentions it.

Any time Congress is making noise about how they're not gonna be shitstains any more, they're lying to you.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 29, 2025 11:54 AM (ExV1e)

209 206 Anyone who bothered to do a little research would have understood the protracted process to become a "51st state." Canadians who actually feared or resented this were idiots.
Posted by: Ordinary American at April 29, 2025 11:53 AM (h/ffs)

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People were apparently convinced that Trump was going to order an invasion.

All of the big troop movements to Niagara Falls were apparently so well hidden that no one could see them, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at April 29, 2025 11:54 AM (GBKbO)

210 BBC, 'Build, baby, build': Five things Carney has pledged to do as Canadian PM, April 29, 2025

1. Double home-building rates
2. Cut tax to ease cost of living
3. Build a national electricity grid
4. A massive hike in defence spending
5. Boost domestic trade and car-making

Ambitious. How long's he got?

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at April 29, 2025 11:55 AM (NFX2v)

211 This. But honestly, no one voted b/c of what Trump said...at least not any differently than they would have anyway.

bingo! Nova is entirely right!

it's the giveaways and govt interventions - no matter how shitty, people up there are dependent now

Posted by: Black Orchid at April 29, 2025 11:55 AM (Pv3Rg)

212 A Michigan motel manager has filed articles of impeachment against PDT. Article 8 was arguing over a five dollar key deposit.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 29, 2025 11:55 AM (gm9Sb)

213 As far as countries go, canada is a popcorn fart in a wind storm. Nobody really cares what they do up there it's just fun to make fun of them because they take themselves so seriously. Can't wait until they forcibly empty out the cities!

No hockey for you!
Posted by: Zombie Pol Pot

No great loss. Since they haven't won Lord Stanley's Cup in 32 years it's not like we're missing Canadian hockey.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2025 11:55 AM (KP+Ym)

214 Thx CBD. Was playing golf and missed all of the humor in the art thread.
Canadians have voted their preference and now they will get it good and hard (hat tip Ed Koch)

Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 29, 2025 11:55 AM (Er3Q7)

215 Canada should be dissolved because they worship hockey, yet haven't won a Stanley Cup for 32 years. How is that even possible?

Posted by: Third Of A Century!! at April 29, 2025 11:55 AM (G5+As)

216 The Navy had to teach you how to use a knife & fork?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2025 11:53 AM (KP+Ym)

And not to piss on his hands.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 29, 2025 11:56 AM (mWSu4)

217 All of the big troop movements to Niagara Falls were apparently so well hidden that no one could see them, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Niagara Falls!

Slowly I turned, inch by inch, step by step...

Posted by: Bulg at April 29, 2025 11:56 AM (77rzZ)

218 Alberta's premier is already on record as not opposing a separation referendum. Yesterday's election results greatly increase the odds of a referendum vote before the end of the year. A semi-official Albertan delegation has already visited DC on the issue of Alberta's possible independence. The next shoe to drop will be Carney's call to rally the rest of the provinces against Alberta's independence movement.

Frisky times ahead.

Posted by: mrp at April 29, 2025 11:56 AM (rj6Yv)

219 Clive Cussler wrote a book with a plot point that in order to pay for WWI and things, back in 1912 or whenever the UK sold us Canada. The hijinks revolved around finding the treaty.

Just a random statement.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at April 29, 2025 11:56 AM (Oq5OE)

220 215 Canada should be dissolved because they worship hockey, yet haven't won a Stanley Cup for 32 years. How is that even possible?

it's so dull and lame up there that anyone with any skill or talent gets the hell out, is how that's possible

Posted by: Black Orchid at April 29, 2025 11:56 AM (Pv3Rg)

221 Canadians who actually feared or resented this were idiots.

Posted by: Ordinary American at April 29, 2025 11:53 AM (h/ffs)

But Trump's fault.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 29, 2025 11:57 AM (i24o9)

222 208 Yes, that is correct. Voters make emotional (and dumb) decisions.

I wouldn't care if this came about over something important, I put USA's needs over Canada's. But Trump never ran on making Canada the 51st state. Not once. It's a stupid issue.

There is ZERO support for this in either canada or USA, and time after time, he would say "no, I'm not kidding".

It just seems very destructive for no good reason.
Posted by: Leupold at April 29, 2025 11:54 AM (4pwAx)

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Acting like Pierre was some sort of conservative who was going to stop the importation of the third world is also silly.

It was a choice between Labor and Labor-lite. Canada barely chose Labor over Labor-lite.

Yes, there was definitely a segment of the population who voted to "get Trump", but I seriously doubt it had an actual material effect on the election.

The larger story is much more obviously that the Opposition didn't run as the opposition, that it depressed opposition turnout, and that high-propensity voters did what they always do: turn out. And those are much more heavily well-credentialed idiots who will vote to have their daughters raped by illegal immigrants.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at April 29, 2025 11:57 AM (GBKbO)

223 An openly Progressive Canada is at least clear about not being helpful.

Let them fail. Don't help them, don't even pay them attention.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at April 29, 2025 11:57 AM (xcxpd)

224 218 Alberta's premier is already on record as not opposing a separation referendum. Yesterday's election results greatly increase the odds of a referendum vote before the end of the year. A semi-official Albertan delegation has already visited DC on the issue of Alberta's possible independence. The next shoe to drop will be Carney's call to rally the rest of the provinces against Alberta's independence movement.

this is very smart

use the Quebec ploy, get what you can out of that. Carney's weak anyway

Posted by: Black Orchid at April 29, 2025 11:57 AM (Pv3Rg)

225 Does this mean there won't be a 35th season of Murdoch Mysteries????
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 29, 2025 11:35 AM
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The wife and really enjoyed that show for the first 10 seasons, but once Murdoch married Julia, she (Julia) became really insufferable and we stopped.

Posted by: Darth Randall at April 29, 2025 11:58 AM (SCEIr)

226 When I was going through the Navy's Knife and Fork School

The Navy had to teach you how to use a knife & fork?
Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2025 11:53 AM (KP+Ym)

Well...yeah. Like most good Americans we used chopsticks or just wallowed with our faces in the bowl until The Navy taught us how to use forks and knives.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 29, 2025 11:58 AM (iJfKG)

227 All of the big troop movements to Niagara Falls were apparently so well hidden that no one could see them, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla

Slowly, the battalion turned....

Posted by: Niagara Falls!! at April 29, 2025 11:58 AM (G5+As)

228 >>The Navy had to teach you how to use a knife & fork?

Yes. I went through it at AOCS. It was only half-a-day and the lady who instructed us in the nuances of formal dining in the Navy was the wife of the CO of NAS Pensacola.

We all laughed after she left.

Posted by: one hour sober at April 29, 2025 11:58 AM (Y1sOo)

229 A Michigan motel manager has filed articles of impeachment against PDT. Article 8 was arguing over a five dollar key deposit.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 29, 2025 11:55 AM (gm9Sb)

Patel? Ravadem Patel? How am I gonna make a livin' on these deadbeats? Where did you get this one from, the morgue? Money in the mattress.

Posted by: Ricky Roma at April 29, 2025 11:59 AM (979V4)

230 Art Carney >>>>>>>>> Canadian PM Carney

Posted by: Bulg at April 29, 2025 11:59 AM (77rzZ)

231 They have ignored their NATO responsibilities, and have the arrogance to pretend that they can go it alone without the massive defensive umbrella of America.
_______________

Now do Europe. Britain and France proposing to send troops to Ukraine.

Please.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 29, 2025 11:59 AM (YqDXo)

232 That's right. I had forgotten that about "America's Sweetheart."
Posted by: Bulg at April 29, 2025 11:41 AM (77rzZ)

Also Fay Wray, Kong's squeeze in the only King Kong movie you ever need to see.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 29, 2025 11:59 AM (8zz6B)

233 Canada has sucked ever since they cancelled Don Cherry.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at April 29, 2025 11:59 AM (Oq5OE)

234 > Canadian PM, April 29, 2025

1. Double home-building rates
2. Cut tax to ease cost of living
3. Build a national electricity grid
4. A massive hike in defence spending
5. Boost domestic trade and car-making

6. A new pony
7. A shiny US dime
8. A law requiring two desserts with every meal
9. Communism

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 29, 2025 11:59 AM (W5ArC)

235 The larger story is much more obviously that the Opposition didn't run as the opposition, that it depressed opposition turnout, and that high-propensity voters did what they always do: turn out. And those are much more heavily well-credentialed idiots who will vote to have their daughters raped by illegal immigrants.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at April 29, 2025 11:57 AM (GBKbO)

Pollyfever was so lame, he lost his seat last night.

Posted by: mrp at April 29, 2025 12:00 PM (rj6Yv)

236 It's easy (and correct) to say that Poilievre couldn't articulate such a vision, but I believe in this case Trump could have helped him a little bit. He was so satisfied in getting Castreau out using an axe that he didn't bother to use the scalpel to separate what the two parties themselves were doing.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 29, 2025 11:07 AM (KOSi

____________

Yeah, that was maladroit of Trump.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 29, 2025 12:00 PM (YqDXo)

237 Yes. I went through it at AOCS.
Posted by: one hour sober

Did she teach you how to mix drinks as well?

Posted by: Bulg at April 29, 2025 12:00 PM (77rzZ)

238 The best thing to come out of Canada is the Red Green Show.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2025 12:01 PM (KP+Ym)

239 Also Fay Wray, Kong's squeeze in the only King Kong movie you ever need to see.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

I had forgotten that she was a Canuckess as well.

Posted by: Bulg at April 29, 2025 12:02 PM (77rzZ)

240 Yes, there was definitely a segment of the population who voted to "get Trump", but I seriously doubt it had an actual material effect on the election.
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How do you explain a 20 point swing?

The Liberal party was left for dead until the Trump narrative came up. The entire election became about Trump.

I'm with you on "fuck Canada" but I'm not going to pretend he didn't have an effect.

Posted by: Leupold at April 29, 2025 12:03 PM (4pwAx)

241 When I was going through the Navy's Knife and Fork School

The Navy had to teach you how to use a knife & fork?
Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2025 11:53 AM (KP+Ym)
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When the military breaks down a man to rebuild him into a soldier/sailor/airman/marine, they don't mess around.

Ya gotta start with the basics.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 29, 2025 12:03 PM (7fElN)

242 Canada has been in the dumpster for a while. They fired Alex Trebek from Hockey Night in Canada in 1971 because he had a mustache.

Posted by: What The Puck? at April 29, 2025 12:03 PM (G5+As)

243 The best thing to come out of Canada is the Red Green Show.
Posted by: rickb223

Greta has a show?

Posted by: Bulg at April 29, 2025 12:04 PM (77rzZ)

244 I wouldn't care if this came about over something important, I put USA's needs over Canada's. But Trump never ran on making Canada the 51st state. Not once. It's a stupid issue.

Posted by: Leupold at April 29, 2025 11:54 AM (4pwAx)
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It would be like having another California, with two leftist Senators and 50 leftist Congressmen. Utter madness.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 29, 2025 12:04 PM (YqDXo)

245 Supremes will take up a case about whether law enforcement agencies are liable they raid the wrong house.

From what I'm seeing, both the conservative and communist wings of the Court are leaning toward "yes, they are".

About time.

I'm a law and order guy. That means I expect law enforcement to also obey the law.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 29, 2025 12:05 PM (W5ArC)

246 233 Canada has sucked ever since they cancelled Don Cherry.

played in the telemovie by Jared Keeso!

Posted by: Black Orchid at April 29, 2025 12:05 PM (Pv3Rg)

247 240 How do you explain a 20 point swing?

The Liberal party was left for dead until the Trump narrative came up. The entire election became about Trump.

I'm with you on "fuck Canada" but I'm not going to pretend he didn't have an effect.
Posted by: Leupold at April 29, 2025 12:03 PM (4pwAx)

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I don't believe polls?

Also...Polivierre generally just kind of sucked and the more people saw and heard from him, the less they liked him.

Also, if Canada wants to self-destruct its export-based economy that relies on the US for 70% of its entire economy because Trump made fun of them, go for it.

I literally don't give a shit. I hope the country invites in the entire subcontinent of India to show Trump that they're better than him. And I hope Trump builds a border wall with the shithole that will develop.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at April 29, 2025 12:05 PM (GBKbO)

248 153
‘ Except that their successors in the Caliphate will be worse.

Not our problem. They seem hell bent on becoming third world countries. Time for new alliances and new strategies.’

Europe isn’t our problem. Canada with a huge land border with us?
Yeah. A problem.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 29, 2025 12:05 PM (jbnUc)

249 MAPLE SYRUP -- MADE IN WISCONSIN
If you've ever tapped hundreds of trees, hand collected sap in knee deep snow, and boiled into all hours of the night just to produce a few gallons of syrup, then you most certainly know how ragged ass tired sapping can make you ... And thus, Ragged Ass Syrup Company was born!

Posted by: Kathy at April 29, 2025 12:06 PM (qpw89)

250 Canadian voters decided what would be the biggest middle finger to the guy that said he wants to take over your country. It was a 20 point swing from when Trump started the whole "51st state" nonsense.

Alternatively, having seen what someone actually working for their country looks like, they saw Pierre going on about keeping the same number of Islamic rapists coming in and said "fuck that, I'm not voting/voting for the liberal". If he was actually the guy some thought he was, he would've had a play. He got hit in his weak spot harder than Vivek with H1Bs.

And don't underestimate the retardedness of Canadians. I know a guy near Quebec who made a big deal on social media about getting rid of his car to save Gaia.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 29, 2025 12:06 PM (QZThv)

251 237 One of the guys in my DC outfit put in for State Department (Embassy) duty and got it. He visited us before shoving off on new assignment (SA) and said the course was sometimes a hoot, with instruction on proper stuff your average jarhead wouldn't think about. "Don't offer a cigarette to anybody after you have had the pack (Marlboros) in your sock."

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 29, 2025 12:06 PM (gm9Sb)

252 It would be like having another California, with two leftist Senators and 50 leftist Congressmen. Utter madness.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

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Exactly, why would we want a very liberal addition to the USA?

All of these things that Trump wants, like natural resources, we already have. Fix our stupid environmental policies (which he's been doing a great job on) and let us drill it ourselves.

We don't need to assimilate countries to get things like rare earth minerals or oil. WAY cheaper to just buy them.

Posted by: Leupold at April 29, 2025 12:06 PM (4pwAx)

253 > It would be like having another California, with two leftist Senators and 50 leftist Congressmen. Utter madness.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 29, 2025 12:04 PM (YqDXo)

OTOH, if we just annexed them without statehood, they wouldn't be be allowed a vote at the federal level. See: Puerto Rico, other US territories.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 29, 2025 12:07 PM (W5ArC)

254 Canada really stuck it to the Bad Orange Man.

Posted by: brak at April 29, 2025 12:07 PM (jGJov)

255 Carney's time as PM is not going to make Canada better.

It's going to make Canada significantly worse.

And it'll probably end with Carney completely folding to Trump anyway because the country is so dependent on the US just to keep the lights on.

So...Carney folds. His coalition falls apart. We get a call for new elections before the end of the year.

Should be amusing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at April 29, 2025 12:07 PM (GBKbO)

256 Supremes will take up a case about whether law enforcement agencies are liable they raid the wrong house.

From what I'm seeing, both the conservative and communist wings of the Court are leaning toward "yes, they are".

Good. It's not asking too much of our so-called "public servants" to read the number of the f*cking mailbox before kicking in doors and throwing flashbangs at children.

Posted by: Oddbob at April 29, 2025 12:07 PM (/y8xj)

257 164
‘ As was Mary Pickford.’

And Fay Wray.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 29, 2025 12:07 PM (jbnUc)

258 > When I was going through the Navy's Knife and Fork School
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Our grandmother went through the various utensils; shrimp fork, salad fork, dinner fork, soup spoon, etc. And the different plates, bowls, cups, glasses, etc.

And where each one went on the table and the order you were supposed to use them, and with what.

Civilized.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 29, 2025 12:08 PM (Q4IgG)

259 It's easy (and correct) to say that Poilievre couldn't articulate such a vision, but I believe in this case Trump could have helped him a little bit. He was so satisfied in getting Castreau out using an axe that he didn't bother to use the scalpel to separate what the two parties themselves were doing.

That said, I was really surprised that a skilled politician like Poilievre said basically nothing that I can recall about Trump and Canada. And now even he is out of a seat; he was ousted by a Liberal.
Posted by: Darrell Harris
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Poilievre wasn't skillful. In fact, he relied on the we are not Trudeau for a long period of time but asserted no positive vision of what the Conservatives would do in office other than me too on opposing Trump.

Classic Tory (British) political strategy of reliance on how bad the other folks are versus actually putting forth a coherent reform agenda to 'fix' things for the common folk. Rewarmed Ted Heath middle way bullshit or GHWB Kindler Gentler bullshit.

Conservatives thought they would coast into office by simply not being Trudeau or Liberal, when Turdeau left office, they were left with muh Canada! and not Liberals!

Posted by: whig at April 29, 2025 12:08 PM (ctrM5)

260 From what I'm seeing, both the conservative and communist wings of the Court are leaning toward "yes, they are".

good I hope it's unanimous

Posted by: Black Orchid at April 29, 2025 12:08 PM (Pv3Rg)

261 259 Conservatives thought they would coast into office by simply not being Trudeau or Liberal, when Turdeau left office, they were left with muh Canada! and not Liberals!
Posted by: whig at April 29, 2025 12:08 PM (ctrM5)

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This was the GOP in 2012.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at April 29, 2025 12:08 PM (GBKbO)

262 260 From what I'm seeing, both the conservative and communist wings of the Court are leaning toward "yes, they are".

good I hope it's unanimous
Posted by: Black Orchid at April 29, 2025 12:08 PM (Pv3Rg)

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I really want an 8-1 with Sotomayor dissenting for literally incoherent reasons.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at April 29, 2025 12:09 PM (GBKbO)

263 The only people having children in Canada are the Muslims and the Indians, so that big border we have with them is going to eventually become a problem one way or another no matter who they elect.

Posted by: brak at April 29, 2025 12:09 PM (jGJov)

264 I really want an 8-1 with Sotomayor dissenting for literally incoherent reasons.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at April 29, 2025 12:09 PM (GBKbO)

In 2025 Bizarro World, the lefties should definitely be siding with the police, for consistent inconsistency.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 29, 2025 12:10 PM (i24o9)

265 this is very smart

use the Quebec ploy, get what you can out of that. Carney's weak anyway
Posted by: Black Orchid at April 29, 2025 11:57 AM (Pv3Rg)

It's more serious than that. Alberta is getting shafted by Ottawa's "Equalization" tax transfer system that sends the province's tax revenue to the federal government and then receives pennies on the dollar after the money pie is cut. Alberta is subsidizing the Canadian social spending system. Any tax relief for Alberta results in a loss of social benefits for the eastern provinces. A zero-sum game.

Posted by: mrp at April 29, 2025 12:11 PM (rj6Yv)

266 264In 2025 Bizarro World, the lefties should definitely be siding with the police, for consistent inconsistency.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 29, 2025 12:10 PM (i24o9)

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I was gonna say KJB, but she's so black that she could never side with the police unless they were trying to arrest Republicans.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at April 29, 2025 12:12 PM (GBKbO)

267 230 Art Carney >>>>>>>>> Canadian PM Carney

carney art is best art

Posted by: anachronda at April 29, 2025 12:12 PM (sGtp+)

268 It would be like having another California, with two leftist Senators and 50 leftist Congressmen. Utter madness.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 29, 2025 12:04 PM (YqDXo)

Doesn't have to be a package deal. Take Alberta and Saskatchewan first, both of which are as conservative as Texas. Make them Territories, so they don't get any Senators. Population-wise, they get a few Congress seats, most of which would tend Republican.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 29, 2025 12:12 PM (8zz6B)

269 Alberta is subsidizing the Canadian social spending system.

We'll trade Alberta for Minnesota, plus a player to be named later.

Posted by: brak at April 29, 2025 12:12 PM (jGJov)

270 Classic Tory (British) political strategy of reliance on how bad the other folks are versus actually putting forth a coherent reform agenda to 'fix' things for the common folk. Rewarmed Ted Heath middle way bullshit or GHWB Kindler Gentler bullshit.

Also classic GOPe.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 29, 2025 12:12 PM (QZThv)

271 Funniest thing would be an end to the Ukraine War and then we shift all of our paper imports from Canada to Russia.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at April 29, 2025 11:52 AM (GBKbO)

IT WOULD BE FUNNIER IF WE MADE ALL OUR PAPER HERE AND WIND UP EXPORTING IT TO CANADA

Posted by: Kindltot at April 29, 2025 12:12 PM (D7oie)

272 We'll trade Alberta for Minnesota, plus a player to be named later.
Posted by: brak at April 29, 2025 12:12 PM (jGJov)

But we also have to flip flop the Wild and the flames.

Posted by: BruceWayne at April 29, 2025 12:13 PM (MGB5H)

273 The Liberal party was left for dead until the Trump narrative came up. The entire election became about Trump.

So... average Canadian: I would like the country to move in a direction other than the one we've voted for the last three times. I really want some changes to be made but this guy, this orange man, he's saying some stuff about us. Now, both main party spokespeople are basically saying "fuck the orange man" but I just know that the conservative guy will do things differently here in Canada than the way we've voted the past three time. Can't have that, better vote Labour. What's that, I said that I wanted things to be different, that was before the orange man said things.

Seriously, if that's their reasoning, fuck them. Every country on Earth mouths off about the US elections. Every country on Earth has their hand out wanting us to pay for their comfy lifestyle. Bed? Made. Enjoy your rest.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 29, 2025 12:13 PM (ExV1e)

274 Are there any legit accusations of massive voter fraud in Canada?

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 29, 2025 12:13 PM (qFAfu)

275 256 Supremes will take up a case about whether law enforcement agencies are liable they raid the wrong house.

From what I'm seeing, both the conservative and communist wings of the Court are leaning toward "yes, they are".

Good. It's not asking too much of our so-called "public servants" to read the number of the f*cking mailbox before kicking in doors and throwing flashbangs at children.
Posted by: Oddbob

The whole concept of qualified immunity needs to go. It should only apply to split second decisions of life or death just like self defense does for civilians. It should not apply to bureaucrats in general, nor for decisions made in the leisure of plenty of time to check for errors.

Bad decision on qualified immunity by the Burger court long ago (Harlow v. Fitzgerald) and it has produced rotten fruit in policing that actually undermines public support for the police. Also creates useless litigation over when it does and does not apply.

And it has been a universal shield for bureaucrats to do shit that they know is illegal and unconstitutional like US v. Leon. If they know they face personal liability, their calculus of decisionmaking will change.

Posted by: whig at April 29, 2025 12:14 PM (ctrM5)

276 BREAKING:

Cub Scout Troop #1314 is massing at the Montana/Alberta border. Their packs are loaded with .22s and enough materials for S'mores to keep the troop fed for days. The roads are open all the way to Medicine Hat. I think it's happening!

Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 29, 2025 12:14 PM (Dv3i1)

277 Shazbot
Feldercarb
Happy now?

Posted by: 80's music fan at April 29, 2025 12:14 PM (QSrLX)

278 270 Classic Tory (British) political strategy of reliance on how bad the other folks are versus actually putting forth a coherent reform agenda to 'fix' things for the common folk. Rewarmed Ted Heath middle way bullshit or GHWB Kindler Gentler bullshit.

Also classic GOPe.
Posted by: Ian S.

True which is why I mentioned GHWB. Should have mentioned GOPe today as a lot of people here have vague memories of Bush Sr.

Posted by: whig at April 29, 2025 12:15 PM (ctrM5)

279 The only people having children in Canada are the Muslims and the Indians, so that big border we have with them is going to eventually become a problem one way or another no matter who they elect.

That's true nearly everywhere, not just in Canada. "Mohammed" is the top boys' name in like 100 countries at this point.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 29, 2025 12:15 PM (QZThv)

280 224 218 Alberta's premier is already on record as not opposing a separation referendum. Yesterday's election results greatly increase the odds of a referendum vote before the end of the year. A semi-official Albertan delegation has already visited DC on the issue of Alberta's possible independence. The next shoe to drop will be Carney's call to rally the rest of the provinces against Alberta's independence movement.

this is very smart

use the Quebec ploy, get what you can out of that. Carney's weak anyway
Posted by: Black Orchid at April 29, 2025 11:57 AM (Pv3Rg)

If it's true that Pierre was running as the 'not Justin' candidate - along with Carney - and he was not looking to stem immigration, then he deserved to lose. Trump's 'axe' that I mentioned before could then be looked at as Canada's 'Time for Choosing' moment.

Carney's acceptance speech made very clear that Canada's looking for options other than the US relationship - which Trump never threatened, other than saying that it needed to be more fair. If Carney really wants to enter the tender embrace of China and the EU, he'll soon find out that their lips can't cash the checks they promise.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 29, 2025 12:15 PM (lPSim)

281 Carne Asada > Art Carney > Canadian PM Carney

Posted by: Things to Crumble at April 29, 2025 12:16 PM (qUkBO)

282 280 Carney's acceptance speech made very clear that Canada's looking for options other than the US relationship - which Trump never threatened, other than saying that it needed to be more fair. If Carney really wants to enter the tender embrace of China and the EU, he'll soon find out that their lips can't cash the checks they promise.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 29, 2025 12:15 PM (lPSim)

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I'm unclear how an export-based economy integrates well with China, an export-based economy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at April 29, 2025 12:16 PM (GBKbO)

283 Conservatives thought they would coast into office by simply not being Trudeau or Liberal, when Turdeau left office, they were left with muh Canada! and not Liberals!
Posted by: whig at April 29, 2025 12:08 PM (ctrM5)

I ran across this bit about the British minority party system and the LibDems

youtu.be/QzrXYL0tBmY

Posted by: Kindltot at April 29, 2025 12:16 PM (D7oie)

284 We stand on guard for thee?

Posted by: Lex at April 29, 2025 12:17 PM (l5xX+)

285 Cub Scout Troop #1314 is massing at the Montana/Alberta border. Their packs are loaded with .22s and enough materials for S'mores to keep the troop fed for days. The roads are open all the way to Medicine Hat. I think it's happening!

Cub Scouts (from before it became a gay social club) with .22s would roll right over the Canadians. I'd pay real money for a livestream.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 29, 2025 12:17 PM (QZThv)

286 Mondo Cane > Chili con Carne > Carne Asada > Art Carney > Canadian PM Carney
Posted by: Things to Crumble at April 29, 2025 12:16 PM (qUkBO)

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 29, 2025 12:17 PM (W5ArC)

287 New thread up

Posted by: Ann at April 29, 2025 12:17 PM (4neFu)

288 Are there any legit accusations of massive voter fraud in Canada?
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 29, 2025 12:13 PM (qFAfu)

Of course they wouldn't use the Dominion voting system, they know better. Wouldn't they?

Posted by: Kindltot at April 29, 2025 12:17 PM (D7oie)

289 lot of people here have vague memories of Bush Sr.

a thousand points of light

wouldn't be prudent

*barfs on the Japanese PM*

Posted by: GHWB memories at April 29, 2025 12:18 PM (jGJov)

290 I'm unclear how an export-based economy integrates well with China, an export-based economy.

China's more than willing to present non-export deals for long-term strategic gain. That's pretty much the entire Belt and Road thing.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 29, 2025 12:18 PM (QZThv)

291 'That's true nearly everywhere, not just in Canada. "Mohammed" is the top boys' name in like 100 countries at this point.'
____

Good! Demographics is destiny! You guys are screwed! WE will be in charge forever! Ha ha! Ha ha ha ha!

Posted by: Whitebread Lefty at April 29, 2025 12:18 PM (qUkBO)

292 Our grandmother went through the various utensils; shrimp fork, salad fork, dinner fork, soup spoon, etc. And the different plates, bowls, cups, glasses, etc.

And where each one went on the table and the order you were supposed to use them, and with what.

Civilized.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 29, 2025 12:08 PM (Q4IgG)

Food gets put down, you pick up a knife and protect what's yours. Which fork to use? Ain't nobody got time for that. While you're counting tines someone else done ate your food.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 29, 2025 12:18 PM (ExV1e)

293 274 Are there any legit accusations of massive voter fraud in Canada?
Posted by: Biden's Dog

I suspect the results were in fact legit. Conservatives ran on a thin platform with nothing to fix the nation's problems other than Trust Us!, Much Canada v. Trump!, and We are not the Liberals!

That kind of program does not work at the polls because in times of stress, the vote will revert to the natural party of government (Liberals since Trudeau Sr. ) in the absence of a clear reform program. That is also why Conservatives (natural party of government in UK) have managed to survive idiots like Cameron, Boris, Major, etc. Their new broom swept nothing but did nothing to displeasure the elites much.

Posted by: whig at April 29, 2025 12:18 PM (ctrM5)

294 U nas yest' NOOD.

Posted by: Bulg at April 29, 2025 12:19 PM (77rzZ)

295 215 Canada should be dissolved because they worship hockey, yet haven't won a Stanley Cup for 32 years. How is that even possible?

i blame poutine

Posted by: anachronda at April 29, 2025 12:20 PM (sGtp+)

296 Are there any legit accusations of massive voter fraud in Canada?

Canada uses only paper ballots and has a deadline on the count. Like pretty much every country except the US.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 29, 2025 12:21 PM (QZThv)

297 >>Did she teach you how to mix drinks as well?

Naw, and it was actually more than just "don't cut your steak with the butter knife or eat soup with the teaspoon."

The Navy has had a very strong emphasis of proper protocols, traditions and personal decorum when dining formally. I think it's a bigger deal for the surface fleet folks than it ever was in aviation units.

My first formal dining out in my unit, with all of us wearing choker whites, devolved into everyone, including the CO and XO, throwing dinner rolls soaked in red wine at each other.

Getting red wine stains out of the white uniforms is impossible. I bought a new set, instead.

Posted by: one hour sober at April 29, 2025 12:22 PM (Y1sOo)

298 274
‘ Are there any legit accusations of massive voter fraud in Canada?’
Good question.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 29, 2025 12:22 PM (jbnUc)

299 283 Conservatives thought they would coast into office by simply not being Trudeau or Liberal, when Turdeau left office, they were left with muh Canada! and not Liberals!
Posted by: whig at April 29, 2025 12:08 PM (ctrM5)

I ran across this bit about the British minority party system and the LibDems

youtu.be/QzrXYL0tBmY

Posted by: Kindltot
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If you like vicious cutting political satire, "The Thick of It" skewers both Labor governments and the Conservative Lib Dem fusion government with deadly aim. Trashes the view that 'government' knows what in the hell that they are doing.

Peter Capaldi excels in the series as one of the pivotal characters (sort of Rahm Emmanuel redux but in UK Labor).

Posted by: whig at April 29, 2025 12:23 PM (ctrM5)

300 Are there any legit accusations of massive voter fraud in Canada?
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 29, 2025 12:13 PM (qFAfu)

No. paper ballots, hand-marked, hand-counted, verifiable. The only really hinky thing was that there were something 90! bullshit candidates on the ballot in Carleton, Poilievre's riding, all of whom got a mere handful of votes, if any. Clearly a deliberate attempt to confuse the voters, and undoubtedly financed by somebody.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 29, 2025 12:24 PM (8zz6B)

301 Are there any legit accusations of massive voter fraud in Canada?
Posted by: Biden's Dog

Apparently Canada uses paper ballots. Seems less likely that fraud was a determining factor. They had results by poll closing time. Apparently the Canadians are racist.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * poorly trained emotional support moron at April 29, 2025 12:24 PM (TrKJG)

302 They have a ridiculously outsized sense of their importance.

It would be laughable if they weren't so earnest in their stupidity.

They are bitterly clinging to the tired notion (currently being tested by much bigger China) that the world will join some silly coalition against the US once the elites recite the proper incantations of "bully" etc.

China will bend to the same rule as Canada:
Money talks and bullshit walks. You ain't got the money, honey, we do.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 29, 2025 12:24 PM (NwfFc)

303 How will Canada know when it's hit bottom?
When it quits digging.

Tundra may make the digging harder.

Posted by: DaveA at April 29, 2025 12:28 PM (FhXTo)

304 In Canada, even when running for Prime Minister, you actually still run for your own Parliament seat at the same time.

Pierre Polievre was such an unbelievably bad candidate that he not only blew a SIXTY POINT LEAD, but he actually lost his personal Parliament seat!

He was the Mitt Romney of Canada, a 'conservative' that only seemed good in comparison to the insane leftists he was running against, but still seemed ashamed that he was actually conservative.

Posted by: DudeAbiding at April 29, 2025 12:44 PM (setIA)

305 OT Bezos was going to publish the tariff costs along with price. It is said he backed down due to being accused of playing politics. Maybe he realized simple math would tell everybody how much (how little) he was paying for a product.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 29, 2025 11:27 AM

Nick Sortor @nicksortor

Karoline Leavitt just ROASTED Amazon for announcing they’ll be showing “tariff prices” next to products

“This is a HOSTILE and POLITICAL action by Amazon. Why didn’t Amazon do this when Biden hiked inflation to the highest level in 40 years?!

As Reuters reported, Amazon has partnered with a Chinese propaganda firm!

This is another reason Americans should BUY AMERICAN.”

https://bit.ly/3GLlbDS

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 29, 2025 01:25 PM (P5BPp)

306 Benny Johnson @bennyjohnson

Amazon's stock after getting obliterated by the White House for announcing they will be displaying "tariff prices" next to products:

https://bit.ly/3GsY9Sc

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 29, 2025 01:27 PM (P5BPp)

307 God help us all here in Canada. We are well and truly fucked. Much like Valifornia and New York can be the deciding factor in elections, here it is the so-called elites in Toronto, Ottawa, montreal, and Vancouver who tend to vote in a bloc for the Liberals, and hope the chaos that follows doesn't affect their perqs and portfolios.
They're about to find out the devil they just voted in is far worse than the devil lite who just took his mega pension and ran back to his trust fund.
Alas,we the people are going to have to bear the costs. Goodbye, retirement funds. Goodbye semi affordable anything. Goodbye dreams of home ownership. Goodbye shrinking middle class. Goodbye to everything rthat made this country good. Makes me want to walk across the border and declare refugee status.

Posted by: Dagny Taggart at April 29, 2025 01:49 PM (Ywa9B)

308 Pierre Polievre was such an unbelievably bad candidate that he not only blew a SIXTY POINT LEAD, but he actually lost his personal Parliament seat!

As I commented elsewhere, this is like the Tories in the UK. If your standard bearer can't even carry his own district, your party is weak sauce. The "Conservatives" in Canada are like "moderate Democrats." And I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of them are as compromised by ChiCom ties as the Liberals.

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at April 29, 2025 02:00 PM (uY1j2)

309 Good post, CBD. I haven't seen actual numbers, but I would guess that Pierre lost his seat because Ca conservatives that fully backed any negotiation with Trump got pissed off at his anti-Trump rhetoric and simply didn't vote.

When Pierre attacked Trump and not Carney...

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