THE MORNING RANT: Periodic Roundup of the EV Follies

THE MORNING RANT: Periodic Roundup of the EV Follies – 4/25/2025

Wheels on the EV Bus Don’t Go ‘Round

Making school buses electric is an idea that is so stupid that only our “highly educated,” credentialed elites could have thought it would work out. Now that school districts are putting EV school buses into place, it is becoming clear just how awful an idea it was.

“Kansas school halts electric bus use over student safety concerns” [KSNT – 4/17/2025]

The Wabaunsee School District serves rural communities west of Topeka. After deciding to pull its Lion electric school buses out of service, its superintendent was quoted as saying, “While the buses showed early promise, we encountered ongoing operational issues that ultimately led us to pause their use. Out of an abundance of caution, and in line with our highest priority of student safety, we made the decision to remove the buses from active service while we work with the manufacturer toward resolution.”

Working with the manufacturer toward resolution will be difficult…

These are the same Lion EV school buses that have proved to be such a nightmare for schools in Maine, as I recently discussed. Lion has ceased production and has filed for bankruptcy protection, despite the Biden administration having funneled $160 million of taxpayer dollars to it.

Meanwhile, Blue Bird Corporation has fully mastered the corporate-communist business model, as I documented a few months ago. Blue Bird not only receives government grants to manufacture electric school buses, but the government also pays school districts to buy Blue Bird’s buses…or at least it did until Trump took office. Well, Blue Bird’s EV school buses are also not working out very well, either. This news just broke:

“Blue Bird Recalls Electric School Buses” [The Brake Report – 4/21/2025]

The issue came to light in October 2024 following two collisions involving Blue Bird Vision electric buses. Investigations revealed that a high-voltage system shutdown disabled the primary brake assist, and the secondary brake assist system was inoperative due to a blown fuse in one vehicle and a disconnected wiring harness in another. The lack of diagnostic warnings for these failure modes left drivers unaware of the compromised braking system, contributing to the crashes.

As much fun as I have mocking those people and institutions who believed the EV hype and have taken a financial hit for their foolishness, it is deeply disturbing that children are still being subject to the consequences of this awful episode. Every electric school bus is now a sunk cost that cannot be salvaged. It’s time to permanently shut down the EV school bus experiment and get the kids back on safe, reliable, petroleum-powered buses.

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Plug-in Hybrids: A Solution in Search of a Problem

Not only are plug-in hybrids a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist, they’re a dangerously bad “solution.”

As best I can tell, the only problem plug-in hybrids solve is that of virtue-signaling people who need the range of an ICE vehicle while still wanting the smugness that comes from driving a plug-in electric car. Unfortunately, plug-in hybrids simply create a very heavy, very inefficient car that is also subject to runaway thermal fires, just like regular EVs.

This is a lesson some Volvo customers are learning, as they are now being told NOT to plug in their plug-in hybrid.

“Volvo Tells Thousands Of Plug-In Hybrid Owners To Stop Charging” [Car Scoops – 3/26/2025]

Volvo is recalling thousands of plug-in hybrids in the United States as they could short circuit when parked and fully charged. This poses a serious fire risk and it could occur at night, when the vehicle is parked in your garage.
That’s a scary thought and owners are being advised not to charge their vehicles until the recall has been addressed.
Delving deeper into the matter, Volvo identified a “production deviation with the battery module” that could potentially lead to a thermal runaway event.

There is this one amazing trick that can ensure a car owner that he will never experience a thermal runaway event with his vehicle. Can you guess what it is?

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Does Blowing up a Warehouse Full of Lithium Batteries Count as “Recycling”?

Facilities that collect used lithium EV batteries for disposal / recycling are effectively massive bombs with a fuse that’s waiting to be lit. And it doesn’t even take a spark to light the fuse, just a little instability.

Stories like the following are becoming so common that it is clear that there is no safe way to store used lithium batteries:

“Battery plant EXPLODES for second time in just one year as terrified residents flee debris raining down on their newbuild estate next door” [Daily Mail – 4/10/2025]

Every news story I read about this fire at the Fenix Battery Recycling plant in Kilwinning, Ayrshire, Scotland carefully avoided using the words “lithium,” “electric,” and “EV” so as not to allow readers to understand the actual cause of the inferno. In some online forums, people were arguing that this might have been a fire involving traditional lead-acid car batteries.

No, it was a massive conflagration of rechargeable lithium batteries from electric vehicles. This is from an article in May of 2021 when the Kilwinning battery recycling plant was opening for business:

As lithium ion battery use surges with the growth in the electric vehicle market, a new multi-chemistry battery recycling facility has been opened in Kilwinning near Glasgow. The site will play an important part in Fenix Battery Recycling’s plans to develop facilities to offer on-site recycling for multiple battery types, with this site specialising in recycling Electric Vehicle Batteries.

That 2021 article went on to state that this EV recycling plant was the result of “significant grant funding to develop an innovative technology to make lithium ion battery recycling cleaner and more sustainable.”

Comrade Arthur originally sent this story to me, and I took the occasion to seek clarity as to whether burning a city down with exploding EV batteries is the “clean” part of green energy or the “renewable” part.

Are exploding lithium battery facilities the “clean” part of green energy or the “renewable” part?
— Buck Throckmorton (@BuckThrockmort) April 12, 2025

Today’s header photo is also a picture of the “recycling” operation at the EV recycling plant in Kilwinning.

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A Rolling Stone Gathers No Moss, but a Parked EV Quickly Loses Its Charge

An ICE car with gas in the tank does not lose its fuel supply when it’s parked for days on end, nor does it draw on its 12V battery. As electric vehicle owners are learning, the same cannot be said for their charged-up EVs.

“3,100 Miles In, I Parked My Hyundai Ioniq in My Garage for 10 Days With 78% Battery, Now It's Dead and the Dealer Says It Killed The 12V Battery” [Torque News – 4/10/2025]

Let me set the scene for you. You buy a brand-new Hyundai Ioniq 5. You love the futuristic design, the spaceship dashboard, and the whisper-quiet ride. You’re sitting at just over 3,000 miles—barely out of the honeymoon phase. You park it in your garage, battery sitting at 78%, and go away for ten days. You come back expecting to drive off into the sunset. Instead, what greets you is a total system shutdown. The car is completely dead. Not low battery - dead. You have to use a manual key to get in, and then jump-start a brand-new 12V battery just to bring it back to life. That’s exactly what happened to James Heckathorne, who shared his experience in The Ioniq Guy Facebook group - an increasingly essential place for Ioniq owners to make sense of their EVs beyond the sales brochures and glossy commercials.

There is some interesting discussion in this piece about the electrical and mechanical reasons why this problem occurs in EVs, but the fact that parking your EV for 10 days may turn it into a brick is yet another unnecessary hassle involved in driving an EV instead of a reliable ICE car.

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EV Death Pool Update

Rivian is inching closer to its ultimate destination, as Q1 2025 sales tumbled dramatically. You’d think with leftists turning against Elon Musk, that Rivian might pick up some lost Tesla sales, but that did not happen.

“Rivian's Q1 Sales Fell 36% Amid L.A. Wildfire Fallout” [Inside EVs – 4/02/2025]

…amid L.A. Wildfire fallout.” That’s funny. I would suggest that “…amid massive consumer rejection” would be a more accurate headline, but that is a story the media doesn’t want to tell.

Rivian sold just 8,640 vehicles in the first quarter of 2025, compared to 13,588 in Q1 of 2024, a 36% drop. 2025’s sales annualize to only 35,000 units per year. Rivian had been eking out about 50,000 unit sales in recent years, while still promising to build a plant in Georgia to manufacture hundreds of thousands of vehicles each year.

The problem isn’t supply. Rivian manufactured over 14,000 vehicles in the quarter. What this means in the short term is that Rivian will have to start heavily discounting soon to get rid of the glut of unsold units. That will get the EV fanboys all excited about the uptick in sales, but only until the next round of catastrophic financial statements are released by Rivian as a result of dumping the excess vehicles at a huge loss per unit.

If something cannot go on forever, it will stop. Rivian cannot churn out money-losing vehicles indefinitely, especially in the face of collapsing demand.

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Stop Building Electric Vehicles that No One Will Buy

When General Motor announced the launch of its “BrightDrop” electric delivery van several years ago, it forecast that by 2023 the BrightDrop would be producing about $1 billion per year in revenue, which comes out to about 12,000 units sold per year at the anticipated sales price of about $85,000 per unit. But GM sold less than 500 units in 2023, and only sold 1,529 BrightDrops in 2024 as it unloaded its excess production from 2023 with huge incentives. The current GM rebate on a BrightDrop is $25,500 per unit, and this doesn’t include any federal incentives! Yet the auto manufacturer still can’t unload them.

Suffice it to say, electric delivery vans have been a financial disaster for GM.

“GM cutting jobs, idling Canadian electric van plant due to ‘market demand’” [CNBC – 4/11/2025]

General Motors is cutting production of its all-electric BrightDrop delivery vans at a plant in Canada and will idle the facility through much of 2025, the company confirmed Friday.

If GM is idling the plant for most of the next eight months, there must be a serious glut of unsold BrightDrops.

The Detroit automaker said the decisions are not related to President Donald Trump’s tariffs. “This adjustment is directly related to responding to market demand and re-balancing inventory,” GM said in an emailed statement.

According to this USA Today piece, GM produced 3,500 BrightDrops in 2024, which is about 2,000 more units than it actually sold. This means GM has more than a year’s supply of its unwanted electric delivery vans to unload!

General Motors’ CEO Mary Barra was extremely obedient to her handlers in the Obama/Biden administrations, consistently implementing the destructive EV-agenda they demanded. Now it’s time for her to learn that Biden and Obama are gone and aren’t coming back, and if she is going to avoid the ignominy of being the (insanely overpaid) executive who killed GM, she needs to quickly back away from her all-EV pledge.

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Hybrids are a “Bridge to EVs” Like Shrimp are a Bridge to Bug Eating

Traditional, gas-powered, “non-plug-in” hybrids (most famously the Prius) are great vehicles. They generate electricity with regenerative braking, and that electricity is stored in a small battery that is used for incremental propulsion, increasing overall gas mileage. Toyota has had great success by ignoring the EV hype and making much of its lineup traditional hybrid vehicles.

The EV zealots were determined to kill off traditional hybrids along with all other gasoline-powered vehicles, but with the consumer rejection of EVs and the growing market share of traditional hybrids, the EV-loving media is trying to credit hybrids as being “electrified” vehicles that are transitioning people to EVs.

This recent Motor Trend story is typical: “VW to Add Two New Hybrids by 2027”

To Volkswagen’s credit, it realizes that there is a huge market for gasoline-powered hybrids, and with its all-electric ID.4 being a massive flop in the U.S., VW is making a necessary pivot. But Motor Trend is still trying to frame this as a step to an all-electric future.

But [Volkswagen], like many others, miscalculated the speed with which American customers would adopt electric vehicles, betting they would go all-in on full battery electric cars, trucks, and SUVs with greater speed. But the forecasts were too ambitious, and the market is more interested in hybrids then pure EVs right now.

No, Motor Trend, the issue is not “the speed” with which Americans are “adopting” EVs, it’s the passion with which we are rejecting them. We are not just rejecting electric vehicles ”right now.” We are emphatically rejecting EVs, period.

This means VW will have added electric motors to its top-selling models by volume in North America.

Sure. And my gasoline-powered SUV also has a 12V battery, so I’m clearly interested in battery power when it comes to my car.

I’ll keep saying it, hybrids are a bridge to EVs in the same way that eating shrimp is a bridge from beef to bug-eating. In other words, they’re not.

[buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 11:00 AM

Comments

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1 1st?

Posted by: Bulg at April 25, 2025 11:00 AM (77rzZ)

2 Wurst!

Posted by: naturalfake at April 25, 2025 11:01 AM (iJfKG)

3 My comments keep disappearing!

Posted by: Bulg at April 25, 2025 11:01 AM (77rzZ)

4 Oh, wait, they're back now.

Posted by: Bulg at April 25, 2025 11:02 AM (77rzZ)

5 Orwell: Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them.

Posted by: TerryH at April 25, 2025 11:02 AM (WlF75)

6 With all the negatives that have accumulated against EVs, you'd swear that no one in his right mind would ever touch one... yet they keep selling. Who's buying them, who's paying for them, and who's threatening their families?

Posted by: Francis W. Porretto at April 25, 2025 11:02 AM (Nmmyc)

7
I have a complaint.

Why or rather how have the "Jump to bottom of comments" click been totally taken over by a page of craptastic ads?

The HQ has fallen under a malign influence!

Diabolical even!

Posted by: naturalfake at April 25, 2025 11:04 AM (iJfKG)

8 The stupidity of people enamored with EV's, wind turbines and solar panels knows no bounds.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 25, 2025 11:04 AM (Q4IgG)

9 Make carriage houses great again.

Inadvertent argument for EV ownership.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 25, 2025 11:05 AM (FEpIj)

10
Buck Throckmorton
@BuckThrockmort
Are exploding lithium battery facilities the “clean” part of green energy or the “renewable” part?

*snark*

Posted by: m at April 25, 2025 11:05 AM (CQE5S)

11 I'd be screaming "RUN" at those idiots standing outside gawping at the huge recycling facility fire. The gases produced are EXTREMELY toxic.

These sorts of facilities need to be built along the lines of an armory, with widely spaced, bunker-type buildings.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 25, 2025 11:06 AM (s8j++)

12 7 I have a complaint.

Why or rather how have the "Jump to bottom of comments" click been totally taken over by a page of craptastic ads?

The HQ has fallen under a malign influence!

Diabolical even!
Posted by: naturalfake at April 25, 2025 11:04 AM (iJfKG)

Also the "Jump to top of page" button?

Posted by: m at April 25, 2025 11:07 AM (CQE5S)

13 Lithium is heavily associated with mental illness.

Posted by: Pudinhead at April 25, 2025 11:07 AM (pZ64F)

14 Plug-in Hybrids: A Solution in Search of a Problem

Found it! The problem: how to attract Federal subsidies.

Posted by: t-bird at April 25, 2025 11:07 AM (nNGXU)

15 Lithium is heavily associated with mental illness.

It's the pause that refreshes.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 25, 2025 11:07 AM (s8j++)

16 Surprised the Rivian sales drop wasn’t blamed on tariffs. Sure Rivians are made in the US and not subject to tariffs. But the media doesn’t often let facts get in the way of their narratives.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 25, 2025 11:08 AM (IZezY)

17 Why or rather how have the "Jump to bottom of comments" click been totally taken over by a page of craptastic ads?
I never see that

Posted by: MAC V SOG at April 25, 2025 11:09 AM (P4Pk9)

18 16 Surprised the Rivian sales drop wasn’t blamed on tariffs. Sure Rivians are made in the US and not subject to tariffs. But the media doesn’t often let facts get in the way of their narratives.
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They have bug eyes. Creepy.

Posted by: Pudinhead at April 25, 2025 11:09 AM (pZ64F)

19 That makes two leftist judges arrested in less than a week. How many judges did the Garland DOJ arrest?

>>@Osint613
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>>45m
NEW 🔴

>>FBI under Kash Patel has arrested Milwaukee Judge Hannah Dugan for obstructing an immigration arrest.

>>Patel: “We believe Judge Dugan intentionally misdirected federal agents away from the subject to be arrested in her courthouse, Eduardo Flores Ruiz, allowing the subject — an illegal alien — to evade arrest.”

Posted by: JackStraw at April 25, 2025 11:09 AM (viF8m)

20 My Daughter has a Tesla she got right before the election and loves it..... It is not their only car.. Uses it around town.. Does not charge at home....

Posted by: It's me donna at April 25, 2025 11:10 AM (VE6XX)

21 So if we start making motorcycle cars again the enviros would be happy, rite?

Posted by: Pudinhead at April 25, 2025 11:11 AM (pZ64F)

22 19 That makes two leftist judges arrested in less than a week. How many judges did the Garland DOJ arrest?

>>@Osint613
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>>45m
NEW 🔴

>>FBI under Kash Patel has arrested Milwaukee Judge Hannah Dugan for obstructing an immigration arrest.

>>Patel: “We believe Judge Dugan intentionally misdirected federal agents away from the subject to be arrested in her courthouse, Eduardo Flores Ruiz, allowing the subject — an illegal alien — to evade arrest.”
Posted by: JackStraw
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Won't satisfy the Veruca Salt brigade here. The goal post will simply move as if by magic.

Posted by: whig at April 25, 2025 11:11 AM (ctrM5)

23 >>FBI under Kash Patel has arrested Milwaukee Judge Hannah Dugan for obstructing an immigration arrest.

As per usual, she looks exactly like you'd expect her to look.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 25, 2025 11:11 AM (s8j++)

24 Proves he's a racist.

Trump Prefers Original “Redskins” Name Over “Washington Commanders”: “It's a Superior Name”

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 25, 2025 11:11 AM (L/fGl)

25 Florida Senate Democrat leader Jason Pizzo has changed his Party affiliation on the Senate floor, said the Florida Democratic party is dead.

Posted by: Bulg at April 25, 2025 11:12 AM (77rzZ)

26 Going 78% to 0 in 10 days sounds sus. My guess is the heat or a/c twas not turned off, or it turned itself on through a schedule, and that’s what caused the battery to go dead.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 25, 2025 11:12 AM (IZezY)

27 The green folks see the EV fires as a good thing. If it kills someone, that's one less driver making Gaia cry.

Posted by: NR Pax at April 25, 2025 11:12 AM (OPGS/)

28 11 I'd be screaming "RUN" at those idiots standing outside gawping at the huge recycling facility fire. The gases produced are EXTREMELY toxic.
Posted by: Archimedes
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They are competing for the Darwin Awards.

Posted by: whig at April 25, 2025 11:13 AM (ctrM5)

29 Also, Lulu Roman, of "Hee-Haw" has died. Age 78.

Posted by: Bulg at April 25, 2025 11:13 AM (77rzZ)

30 25 Florida Senate Democrat leader Jason Pizzo has changed his Party affiliation on the Senate floor, said the Florida Democratic party is dead.

Methinks he's just trying to maintain his own electoral viability.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 25, 2025 11:13 AM (s8j++)

31 >>45m
NEW 🔴

>>FBI under Kash Patel has arrested Milwaukee Judge Hannah Dugan for obstructing an immigration arrest.

>>Patel: “We believe Judge Dugan intentionally misdirected federal agents away from the subject to be arrested in her courthouse, Eduardo Flores Ruiz, allowing the subject — an illegal alien — to evade arrest.”
Posted by: JackStraw at April 25, 2025 11:09 AM (viF8m)
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You know, Milwaukee is a pretty cool city. It'd be a great city if we could clear out some of the leftists.

Posted by: WisRich at April 25, 2025 11:13 AM (G0vdT)

32 An ICE vehicle can drain the 12v battery also if left idle too long. I have a 15 y/o SUV that I've kept for hauling stuff from the hardware store and pulling the boat. In winter it's not used and I discovered the hard way it needs to go on a charger occasionally to top up the battery.

Not sure what would happen with a more modern vehicle. If leaving town for several weeks, maybe disconnect your battery or put the car on a charger and get a ride to the airport.

Posted by: George V at April 25, 2025 11:14 AM (ugbqN)

33 25 Florida Senate Democrat leader Jason Pizzo has changed his Party affiliation on the Senate floor, said the Florida Democratic party is dead.
Posted by: Bulg
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And an old POS Never Trumper, David Jolly went the Charlie Crist route--from GOP, to indy, to Dem running for FL governor.

Another mask ripped off.

Posted by: whig at April 25, 2025 11:14 AM (ctrM5)

34 What is the name of that useless GOPe grifter in Florida who is jumping on the Democrat bandwagon to run for office now that Pizzo is an Independent?

Dude, no one ever jumped back aboard the Titanic.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 25, 2025 11:14 AM (FEpIj)

35 I saw Thermal Runaway Event open for Arsonists Get All the Girls at Chain Reaction in 2018.

Posted by: ShainS at April 25, 2025 11:14 AM (gMWM2)

36 There is this one amazing trick that can ensure a car owner that he will never experience a thermal runaway event with his vehicle. Can you guess what it is?

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"You mean, like, store Classified Documents in your trunk?"

Posted by: ShainS at April 25, 2025 11:15 AM (gMWM2)

37 Dude, no one ever jumped back aboard the Titanic.

So far...

Posted by: David Hogg at April 25, 2025 11:15 AM (s8j++)

38 Holy Ozempic Batman, I just clicked on the Clooney link in the sidebar and he looks like skinny John Goodman.

Posted by: CaliGirl at April 25, 2025 11:16 AM (FjtSk)

39 Why or rather how have the "Jump to bottom of comments" click been totally taken over by a page of craptastic ads?
Posted by: naturalfake at April 25, 2025 11:04 AM (iJfKG)

Ads?

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at April 25, 2025 11:16 AM (5xuJ/)

40 Traditional 12 volt lead-acid batteries in real cars can be slowly discharged by phantom loads, and by self-discharge. Self-discharge is temperature-dependent, and is worse when it is hot out, Three months of non-use in an Arizona summer, and your battery can be quite flat.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 25, 2025 11:16 AM (8zz6B)

41 []Why or rather how have the "Jump to bottom of comments" click been totally taken over by a page of craptastic ads?
Posted by: naturalfake at April 25, 2025 11:04 AM (iJfKG)

Ads?

Look for the MILF with the deeeeeep cleavage.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 25, 2025 11:16 AM (s8j++)

42 Why or rather how have the "Jump to bottom of comments" click been totally taken over by a page of craptastic ads?

The HQ has fallen under a malign influence!

Diabolical even!
Posted by: naturalfake at April 25, 2025 11:04 AM (iJfKG)

Works for me. But I use brave, and it blocks ads.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 25, 2025 11:18 AM (8zz6B)

43 The Ioniq Guy Facebook group - an increasingly essential place for Ioniq owners to make sense of their EVs beyond the sales brochures and glossy commercials.

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A Facebook group...just to commiserate and confer with others on making your car make sense. Wow, that should scream rude awakening to anyone interested in buying one of these EVs.

Posted by: Lady in Black at April 25, 2025 11:18 AM (qBdHI)

44 You know, Milwaukee is a pretty cool city. It'd be a great city if we could clear out some of the leftists.
Posted by: WisRich

There are few US large cities, if any, in the US that does not have dysfunctional and evil politics. Part of it is the interrelationship between property developers and corrupt politicians and bureaucracy.

The other part is the concentration of gimmedats and activists that preclude honest politics at the polls. The gimmedats' votes are bought or frauded into existence, and the activists ensure that any will of the people to change things, like arresting criminals, is smothered by threats and violence.

Posted by: whig at April 25, 2025 11:18 AM (ctrM5)

45 41 []Why or rather how have the "Jump to bottom of comments" click been totally taken over by a page of craptastic ads?
Posted by: naturalfake at April 25, 2025 11:04 AM (iJfKG)
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So I'm not the only one. Frustrating.

Posted by: WisRich at April 25, 2025 11:18 AM (G0vdT)

46 Sad that "Lulu's Truck Stop" is now closed. The chef-Gailard Sartain- is still alive and kicking, though.

Posted by: Hee-Haw History at April 25, 2025 11:18 AM (G5+As)

47 Yeah, electric school buses in places known to experience something called "winter" isn't exactly the brightest idea. Public transportation buses too. With the former, "We've got federal money to buy them and we need to spend it!" has infected rural areas in red states. Of course, as seen above, the federal money isn't going to be paying for the maintenance, upkeep, snafus, and figuring out what to do when those buses suddenly aren't available for the morning pickups in the middle of January.

Posted by: Vendette at April 25, 2025 11:18 AM (GSjwF)

48 Roman was dropped off at a Baptist facility for orphans in Dallas. A thyroid condition would cause her to be overweight, and she was never adopted.

RIP, Lulu. Man, what a rough road.

Posted by: t-bird at April 25, 2025 11:18 AM (yKZlr)

49 Other than pure Nukes there is no way the EV will ever work in current electrification design.
Carbon fuels combusted and then converted to another energy. That energy then up to high voltages to transmit the power long distance. Heat loss, efficacy loss, and transmit loss. The step down at the vehicle owner's house and then converted to DC to charge.
Loss Loss Loss Loss Loss does not have much Loss in it.

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 25, 2025 11:19 AM (gbOdA)

50 If even a fraction of the money used to promote EVs and "alternative" fuels were used to promote and further refine small diesel engines for US passenger cars, we would at least had something useful for all that cash.

America has issues with diesel just like nuclear power and it's not really rational.

Posted by: pawn at April 25, 2025 11:19 AM (QB+5g)

51 Three months of non-use in an Arizona summer, and your battery can be quite flat.
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That's caused by the Ancient Aliens and Stargate. Hungry little buggers.

Posted by: Pudinhead at April 25, 2025 11:19 AM (pZ64F)

52

Sucking dick is a gateway to putting on a dress and servicing large sweaty men behind pubs!

Posted by: David Hogger at April 25, 2025 11:19 AM (0hToV)

53 Trouble at HBO.

Inclusion Irony: LGBTQ+ Critics Slam “The Last of Us” S2 – Still Not Gay Enough

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Never gay enough.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 25, 2025 11:19 AM (L/fGl)

54 Wait.
Electric skool busses don't have fail safe air brakes?
What kind of stupid shit is this?

Posted by: Reforger at April 25, 2025 11:19 AM (xcIvR)

55 You’d think with leftists turning against Elon Musk, that Rivian might pick up some lost Tesla sales, but that did not happen.

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I was going to ask (and have done so here before) if Elon has ever been asked about Lithium Ion (I keep typing the portmanteau "Lithion") battery fires.

Then decided to not be lazy and do a quick search and learned something new (and have learned from commenters here previously about the relative safety of using products with Lithium Iron Phosphate (LFP) batteries):

"Tesla uses Lithium Iron Phosphate (LFP) batteries, which are less prone to thermal runaway and fires compared to other lithium-ion chemistries used in consumer electronics. This choice of battery chemistry helps mitigate fire risks in Tesla's vehicles."

Posted by: ShainS at April 25, 2025 11:20 AM (gMWM2)

56 I'm threadjacking here but I posted this earlier and posting it again because I think it's pretty significant:

"

I think JJ might have missed this but GP had a report about Trump pardoning a Nevada Judge who the DS was absolutely crushing for her role in support after the Bundy Ranch standoff.

Nevada Judge Michele Fiore wrote a letter thanking him for his support. I think it's a must read for the Horde and anyone else out there fighting the good fight:

https://tinyurl.com/32t48kj8

"

Posted by: pawn at April 25, 2025 11:20 AM (QB+5g)

57 An EV charger company I used to contract with, EVBox, just shut down its manufacturing facility in Libertyville, Illinois. The European parent company shut down the operation after it lost several hundred million in European play money.

Our fabulous Governor Fatass and Senator Turban had a photo op there a few months before it was shut down.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 25, 2025 11:20 AM (qwx/I)

58 Works for me. But I use brave, and it blocks ads.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 25, 2025 11:18 AM (8zz6B)

Same here.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at April 25, 2025 11:21 AM (5xuJ/)

59 53 Trouble at HBO.

Inclusion Irony: LGBTQ+ Critics Slam “The Last of Us” S2 – Still Not Gay Enough
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I'm on it!

Posted by: Kathleen Kennedy at April 25, 2025 11:21 AM (G0vdT)

60 When Motor Trend writes that consumers buy traditional hybrids as step toward full electric vehicles, are they stupid or are they flailing around trying to keep good money following bad down the EV drain? I'm pretty sure the gas mileage improvement is the reason the hybrids were introduced and is likely the principal reason they continue to sell reasonably well.

Posted by: Oglebay at April 25, 2025 11:21 AM (2ap+5)

61 have a complaint.

Why or rather how have the "Jump to bottom of comments" click been totally taken over by a page of craptastic ads?

The HQ has fallen under a malign influence!

Diabolical even!
Posted by: naturalfake at April 25, 2025 11:04 AM (iJfKG)

Not seeing it here. Just regular ole pixie.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at April 25, 2025 11:22 AM (g8Ew8)

62 I've owned two Prius hybrids at various times over a couple of decades that my children drove, and the secret fact is I also loved driving them. Quick little buggers, with tons of interior room and they got great mileage, plus Toyota is an excellent service provider. I hate to admit it, but that's one Japanese company I'd buy from again.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 25, 2025 11:22 AM (gMz7B)

63 You might not be surprised to learn that this year’s NYC Auto Show has a noticeable pullback on EV garbage. Sure, they’re still there, but nothing like the prior few years with wall to wall EV.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at April 25, 2025 11:23 AM (qYULV)

64 Holy Ozempic Batman, I just clicked on the Clooney link in the sidebar and he looks like skinny John Goodman.

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I grew up in Cincinnati when Nick Clooney, George's dad, was our local news anchorman. George looks exactly like his dad in that pic, except Nick had the gray hair. He's one of those carbon copy kids, like Donald and Kiefer Sutherland and the Sheen boys to Martin.

Posted by: Lady in Black at April 25, 2025 11:23 AM (qBdHI)

65 Given the history of Solyndra ($500M+), Ivanpah ($1.6B) and Fisker ($140M), what makes anyone believe the Federal government has the ability or even the desire to pick ACTUAL winners or losers among competing alternative energy technologies?
It's ALL a grift!
From Electric School buses to windmills to banning gas stoves and appliances, it's about controlling the choices of the masses (for their own benefit, of course) and directing tax dollars to cronies for kickbacks/votes or power.
That's all these "Green Initiatives" are. Period.
Just fraud, grift and corruption.

Posted by: proudvastrightwingguy at April 25, 2025 11:23 AM (Ovc06)

66 Showrunner for Star Wars Andor says we are all products of rape.

Die Mouse Die.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 25, 2025 11:23 AM (FEpIj)

67 sock off

Posted by: WisRich at April 25, 2025 11:23 AM (G0vdT)

68 I like the idea of a plug-in hybrid because 90% of our driving trips are under 15 miles round-trip. Unfortunately, it seems like the tech is still not great and sometimes dangerous.

Posted by: SamIam at April 25, 2025 11:23 AM (oasF3)

69 Cousin Lulu was also the last surviving member of the serial soap opera The Culhanes of Kornfield Kounty. Sad.

Posted by: Hee-Haw History, Explained at April 25, 2025 11:24 AM (G5+As)

70 54 Wait.
Electric skool busses don't have fail safe air brakes?
What kind of stupid shit is this?
Posted by: Reforger at April 25, 2025 11:19 AM (xcIvR)

Need to have a continually running air compressor for air brakes. That would draw way too much power for an electric compressor. Hence hydraulics.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 25, 2025 11:24 AM (N39Ws)

71 We have enough oil/gas to last a long time.

And beyond that we could always convert coal into gas as well and we have more coal then we will ever use.

There is no need for EVs whatsoever.

So...are they better then ICE vehicles? If the answer is no why the hell are they being sold?

Posted by: 18-1 at April 25, 2025 11:24 AM (t0Rmr)

72 Showrunner for Star Wars Andor says we are all products of rape.

Oh my. How...edgy! How stunning and brave.
*makes wanking motion*

Posted by: Archimedes at April 25, 2025 11:25 AM (s8j++)

73 "Tesla uses Lithium Iron Phosphate (LFP) batteries, which are less prone to thermal runaway and fires compared to other lithium-ion chemistries used in consumer electronics. This choice of battery chemistry helps mitigate fire risks in Tesla's vehicles."
Posted by: ShainS
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Yep. If you do have the need of buying a solar battery setup, look for the Lithium Iron Phosphate ones.

Posted by: whig at April 25, 2025 11:25 AM (ctrM5)

74 41 []Why or rather how have the "Jump to bottom of comments" click been totally taken over by a page of craptastic ads?
Posted by: naturalfake at April 25, 2025 11:04 AM (iJfKG)
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I'm using Vivaldi and I don't see them.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at April 25, 2025 11:25 AM (/HDaX)

75 Couple months back an Indiana University bus full of students burned to cinders en route to a game due to a 'mechanical issue'.

Zero information on what type of bus this was tells me it was an EV. Story was deep-sixed IN A HURRY

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at April 25, 2025 11:25 AM (hirWM)

76 63 You might not be surprised to learn that this year’s NYC Auto Show has a noticeable pullback on EV garbage. Sure, they’re still there, but nothing like the prior few years with wall to wall EV.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at April 25, 2025 11:23 AM (qYULV)

Make V-8 engines great again!!!

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 25, 2025 11:26 AM (N39Ws)

77 Inclusion Irony: LGBTQ+ Critics Slam “The Last of Us” S2 – Still Not Gay Enough

Need a Man's Country 12 man dog pile.

You know for a few million I could arrange to get some guys for you...

Posted by: Barack Obama at April 25, 2025 11:26 AM (t0Rmr)

78 So...are they better then ICE vehicles? If the answer is no why the hell are they being sold?
Posted by: 18-1
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You know why. Globullshit Warming. The ass clowns believing in such fairy tales want to restrict cows because they fart methane.

Posted by: whig at April 25, 2025 11:26 AM (ctrM5)

79 That's all these "Green Initiatives" are. Period.
Just fraud, grift and corruption.

Which is why it's so important not to leave the voting up to us.

Posted by: t-bird at April 25, 2025 11:26 AM (yKZlr)

80 “3,100 Miles In, I Parked My Hyundai Ioniq in My Garage for 10 Days With 78% Battery, Now It's Dead and the Dealer Says It Killed The 12V Battery” [Torque News – 4/10/2025]

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It's your own fault for not continuously charging it during those 10 Days and potentially burning down your home, dummy.

Posted by: ShainS at April 25, 2025 11:27 AM (gMWM2)

81 74 41 []Why or rather how have the "Jump to bottom of comments" click been totally taken over by a page of craptastic ads?
Posted by: naturalfake at April 25, 2025 11:04 AM (iJfKG)
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I'm using Vivaldi and I don't see them.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at April 25, 2025 11:25 AM (/HDaX)
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Happens to me about every fifth click.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 25, 2025 11:28 AM (W/lyH)

82 3,100 Miles In, I Parked My Hyundai Ioniq in My Garage for 10 Days With 78% Battery, Now It's Dead and the Dealer Says It Killed The 12V Battery” /i]

The batteries we are using in EVs are cutting edge. The fact we are putting them in nominally run of the mill consumer products is absurd.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 25, 2025 11:28 AM (t0Rmr)

83 I think someone is trying to create a town that does not allow cars in the city limits which reminds me of the sights, but especially the smells, of Mackinac Island. But it might be fun to live in a golf-cart only community.

Posted by: Oglebay at April 25, 2025 11:28 AM (2ap+5)

84 Buck, thanks so much for rounding up and sharing theses stories here. Otherwise would never hear of these EV “success” stories.

Posted by: haffhowershower at April 25, 2025 11:29 AM (5SvjB)

85 If something cannot go on forever, it will stop. Rivian cannot churn out money-losing vehicles indefinitely, especially in the face of collapsing demand.

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"We just have to hold on until the 2028 election of Hunter Biden as President, h8r!"

Posted by: ShainS at April 25, 2025 11:29 AM (gMWM2)

86 I think someone is trying to create a town that does not allow cars in the city limits/i]

Imagine telling the average American in 1965 that a town in the future could ban cars but not trannies or "gay marriage"

Posted by: 18-1 at April 25, 2025 11:30 AM (t0Rmr)

87 Gah remembering to close those italics tags is such a pain

Posted by: 18-1 at April 25, 2025 11:30 AM (t0Rmr)

88 Need to have a continually running air compressor for air brakes. That would draw way too much power for an electric compressor. Hence hydraulics.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 25, 2025 11:24 AM (N39Ws)

It would be pretty damned easy to rig an air compressor to supply "regenerative" braking to the bus. Let off the throttle, and a clutch would connect the compressor to the road wheels/driveline. You would also have an electric compressor, which would consume no more power than an A/C unit.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 25, 2025 11:31 AM (8zz6B)

89 "3,100 Miles In, I Parked My Hyundai Ioniq in My Garage for 10 Days With 78% Battery, Now It's Dead and the Dealer Says It Killed The 12V Battery”

Good thing you weren't at the airport, at midnight...

Posted by: pawn at April 25, 2025 11:31 AM (QB+5g)

90 Gah remembering to close those italics tags is such a pain

Posted by: 18-1 at April 25, 2025 11:30 AM (t0Rmr)

Less painful than whatever the Barrel has going on these days.

Posted by: Vendette at April 25, 2025 11:31 AM (GSjwF)

91 Ode to a work boot

A little polish,
A little spit,
Soon we'll see through
all the pig shit.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 25, 2025 11:32 AM (VNX3d)

92 Wiki - Lulu Roman worked for Jack Ruby as "the world's biggest Go-Go dancer."

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 25, 2025 11:32 AM (FEpIj)

93 If something cannot go on forever, it will stop. Rivian cannot churn out money-losing vehicles indefinitely, especially in the face of collapsing demand.

We'll make it up on volume!

Posted by: Rivian at April 25, 2025 11:32 AM (s8j++)

94 68 I like the idea of a plug-in hybrid because 90% of our driving trips are under 15 miles round-trip. Unfortunately, it seems like the tech is still not great and sometimes dangerous.
Posted by: SamIam

Attractive idea that has been implemented poorly and likely to stay that way in the short run.

Basically you get the worst of both worlds trying to bridge the EV and Gas powered worlds which makes the systems much more complex to run the damn things than either a straight EV or Gas.

Hybrids have a little of that in costing more to fix problems (Toyota by keeping their eyes on the hybrids by iterative improvement has less of that) but is a superior solution if you value mileage over all other concerns.

Propane or CNG cars require minor adjustments to IC engines and you lose a bit of power than gasoline but either one reduces emissions quite a bit if that is what you are aiming for. Great also for vehicles that you leave sitting for a long while and only need for short trips. Diesel, despite its bad reputation for particulate emissions, also excels at mileage and more importantly torque if that is what you need.

Posted by: whig at April 25, 2025 11:32 AM (ctrM5)

95 Our son in law told us he's driving his Tesla across the country, from Ohio to Utah. It has a camping mode, so he has set it up as a little camper and is going to stay at rv parks. He has an adapter that will allow him to charge at the power pole. I don't think he's going to get the range he thinks he will, he said it will take 3 days.

Posted by: Megthered at April 25, 2025 11:32 AM (vkQEh)

96 A little dated now, but headline here in my Progressive burg:
"Multi-million-dollar loss for Asheville as flawed electric buses sit idle"

$5 Million to be exact.

" The buses have been broken or unable to run because of software and/or mechanical issues, making them an expensive and disappointing purchase, according to city maintenance and transportation staff."

Heh, 'Disappointing'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 25, 2025 11:32 AM (XeU6L)

97 84 Buck, thanks so much for rounding up and sharing theses stories here. Otherwise would never hear of these EV “success” stories.
Posted by: haffhowershower

Yes, I am also very happy to see a Friday EV-Follies Flamefest pop up at 11AM Eastern.

Posted by: Ashes to Ashes, Funk to Funky at April 25, 2025 11:33 AM (G5+As)

98 General Motors is cutting production of its all-electric BrightDrop delivery vans at a plant in Canada and will idle the facility through much of 2025, the company confirmed Friday.

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The MDM-MSM Progda Enemedia Sycophantic Whores blame the Trump Tariffs in 5 .. 4 .. 3 ...

Posted by: ShainS at April 25, 2025 11:33 AM (gMWM2)

99 The NYT triumphantly reports that a young star athlete is in a coma after the cybertruck he was in caught fire following a crash.

Posted by: Oglebay at April 25, 2025 11:33 AM (2ap+5)

100 " The buses have been broken or unable to run because of software and/or mechanical issues, making them an expensive and disappointing purchase, according to city maintenance and transportation staff."

The right people got paid.

The right people got to virtue signal

From the government's perspective this was a perfectly run operation

Posted by: 18-1 at April 25, 2025 11:34 AM (t0Rmr)

101 Wiki - Lulu Roman worked for Jack Ruby as "the world's biggest Go-Go dancer."
Posted by: Anna Puma

Lulu was the gunman on the Grassy Knoll!

Posted by: Bulg at April 25, 2025 11:34 AM (77rzZ)

102 Hey Haffhowershower: Thank you for those kind words. Together we’ll put this bizarre alt-religious contagion of vilifying ICE vehicles and carbon energy behind us.

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at April 25, 2025 11:35 AM (p6zRz)

103 80 “3,100 Miles In, I Parked My Hyundai Ioniq in My Garage for 10 Days With 78% Battery, Now It's Dead and the Dealer Says It Killed The 12V Battery” [Torque News – 4/10/2025]

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It's your own fault for not continuously charging it during those 10 Days and potentially burning down your home, dummy.
Posted by: ShainS at April 25, 2025 11:27 AM (gMWM2

Imagine leaving one in long term parking while on a long trip and coming back to a dead car. Ugh.

All things considered, with all the electronics on modern ICE cars I'm surprised that it does not happen to those as well.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at April 25, 2025 11:35 AM (OA79/)

104 The HQ has fallen under a malign influence!

Diabolical even!
Posted by: naturalfake at April 25, 2025 11:04 AM (iJfKG)

Ace went all electric in 2004. It seemed quite innovative at the time, but now it's outdated.

However, he's taken no USAID money, so he's got that going for him. Which is nice.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2025 11:35 AM (lH8E4)

105 Lulu was the gunman on the Grassy Knoll!
Posted by: Bulg at April 25, 2025 11:34 AM (77rzZ)

She was the grassy knoll.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 25, 2025 11:35 AM (8zz6B)

106 The buses have been broken or unable to run because of software and/or mechanical issues, making them an expensive and disappointing purchase, according to city maintenance and transportation staff.

One wonders if they would be characterized as "disappointing" if the money to buy them belonged to the people who made the decision to buy them.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 25, 2025 11:35 AM (s8j++)

107 An ICE car with gas in the tank does not lose its fuel supply when it’s parked for days on end, nor does it draw on its 12V battery.

The latter hasn’t been true for years now, although the draw is usually slow. If your car can respond to a remote, has any sort of alarm system installed, or you’ve left any electronics plugged in, it will draw down the battery.

But barring a bad design on your lighter DC adapter or actually leaving devices turned on, it will take a long time. I’ve left my car undriven for nearly two months. It may take two or three turnovers to catch instead of catching immediately, but it always does start. Mind you, I do unplug the DC adaptor long-term.

In my opinion, modern ICE vehicles have far too many always-on electronics in them, they draw far too much power from the electrical system, and, worse, there really is no way to turn any nonessential systems off when the battery dies. That requires access to the computer, which needs power. We are far from being reasonably assured of getting home on the alternator when the battery dies. There’s a good chance that a bad battery will burn out the alternator very quickly.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 25, 2025 11:36 AM (EXyHK)

108 Hence hydraulics.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 25, 2025 11:24 AM (N39Ws)

That's even scarrier than what I was thinking it was. Electric braking.
Your not going to develope the pressure needed to stop a bus without some sort of boost so they have to run a hydraulic pump.
Kind of 6 to one, half dozen to the other situation.
I'd rather have air brakes as the symptom of a lot of brake problems is.. the damn thing won't move. Fail to safe. Not fail to freewheel.

Posted by: Reforger at April 25, 2025 11:36 AM (xcIvR)

109 If a hybrid car doesn't require it to be plugged in, I would consider it. My nearly 100 year old home is maxxed out in the electrical transmission department and I really don't want to pay to upgrade it.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 25, 2025 11:36 AM (Dv3i1)

110 99 The NYT triumphantly reports that a young star athlete is in a coma after the cybertruck he was in caught fire following a crash.
Posted by: Oglebay
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If it bleeds, it leads is a rancid formula made worse by the NYT designation of Musk as public enemy no 1.

Frankly, I would cheer putting up a wall around NYC and turning it into an outdoor prison ala 'Escape from NY'.

Posted by: whig at April 25, 2025 11:36 AM (ctrM5)

111 100 " The buses have been broken or unable to run because of software and/or mechanical issues, making them an expensive and disappointing purchase, according to city maintenance and transportation staff."

The right people got paid.

The right people got to virtue signal

From the government's perspective this was a perfectly run operation
Posted by: 18-1 at April 25, 2025 11:34 AM (t0Rmr)

This. And the right people got the right political donations from the people that got paid.

It's a bust out scheme right out of good fellas.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at April 25, 2025 11:36 AM (OA79/)

112 Lulu was the gunman on the Grassy Knoll!
Posted by: Bulg

Lulu WAS the grassy knoll.

Posted by: Hee-Haw Honky Tonk at April 25, 2025 11:37 AM (G5+As)

113 It only took two posts to go there.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 25, 2025 11:38 AM (FEpIj)

114 When did school boards start giving student safety higher priority than wokeness?

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at April 25, 2025 11:38 AM (H0FSy)

115 31
‘ You know, Milwaukee is a pretty cool city. It'd be a great city if we could clear out some of the leftists.’

It’d be an empty city.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 25, 2025 11:38 AM (jbnUc)

116 89 "3,100 Miles In, I Parked My Hyundai Ioniq in My Garage for 10 Days With 78% Battery, Now It's Dead and the Dealer Says It Killed The 12V Battery”

Good thing you weren't at the airport, at midnight...
Posted by: pawn at April 25, 2025 11:31 AM (QB+5g)
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At the airport...at midnight...in the rain...

Posted by: Hemingway at April 25, 2025 11:38 AM (W/lyH)

117 When did school boards start giving student safety higher priority than wokeness?

About the same time they realized they could arrest people they didn't like trying to speak at a school board meeting

Posted by: 18-1 at April 25, 2025 11:39 AM (t0Rmr)

118 When did school boards start giving student safety higher priority than wokeness?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at April 25, 2025 11:38 AM (H0FSy)

The Three R's have entered the chat.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 25, 2025 11:39 AM (W/lyH)

119 Lulu WAS the grassy knoll.
Posted by: Hee-Haw Honky Tonk

I've seen Lulu's "grassy knoll," IFKWIMAITYD.
-- Zombie Junior Samples

Posted by: Bulg at April 25, 2025 11:39 AM (77rzZ)

120 (Missed my favorite one)

The Seoul Metropolitan Government announced Friday new measures to prevent fires caused by overcharging electric vehicles, including banning EVs with over 90 percent battery levels from entering underground parking in residential buildings.

Posted by: Orson at April 25, 2025 11:40 AM (dIske)

121 We are far from being reasonably assured of getting home on the alternator when the battery dies. There’s a good chance that a bad battery will burn out the alternator very quickly.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair
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My dad liked diesels including cars in the 80's. He had a Lincoln Coupe that used a BMW diesel engine. Had two adventures with that car. The first was when the fuel gelled at zero temperatures and my friends and I were going to Midnight Mass. The second was when the alternator failed on a trip to the Big City for fun.

Car kept running despite the battery drawing down and we made it home.

Posted by: whig at April 25, 2025 11:40 AM (ctrM5)

122 Ive never seen information about the effects of that enormous electronic field generated, when driving a Tesla or EV, on the human body day after day. It must be like getting an MRI every day ... bottom line, it can't be good.

Posted by: Wardo at April 25, 2025 11:40 AM (c1UUT)

123 Despite Seattle being a bastion of retarded liberalism, Teslas remain ubiquitous.

I can look out the window and count 50 zipping by in about five minutes.

Posted by: nurse ratched at April 25, 2025 11:41 AM (dtskA)

124 122 Ive never seen information about the effects of that enormous electronic field generated, when driving a Tesla or EV, on the human body day after day. It must be like getting an MRI every day ... bottom line, it can't be good.
Posted by: Wardo
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The horror!

Posted by: Chuck McGill, Esq. at April 25, 2025 11:41 AM (Dv3i1)

125 114 When did school boards start giving student safety higher priority than wokeness?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at April 25, 2025 11:38 AM (H0FSy)

When (and where) schools are funded by parents directly, and not by governments.
Students whose parents can't afford or don't care, are going to be targets for whatever project their schools think up. What are the parents gonna do? Not pay?

Posted by: gKWVE at April 25, 2025 11:41 AM (sAbXF)

126
Good thing you weren't at the airport, at midnight...
Posted by: pawn
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Or here, after The Storm, no power for 3-4 weeks.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 25, 2025 11:41 AM (XeU6L)

127 If a hybrid car doesn't require it to be plugged in, I would consider it.

I’m the opposite. The whole point of having a hybrid or battery-powered car would be being able to safely plug it in and never have to worry about rushing to the gas station before a minor trip.

That will require completely new battery technology, however, and research in motor vehicle-level battery tech is dominated by government funding, which only funds old-and-busted tech.

Weirdly, this is also true of grid-level power storage, even though we already know how to safely store grid-level power. It isn’t new or impressive (well, it is impressive to me) but it works and is reliable both in use and waiting for use.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 25, 2025 11:42 AM (EXyHK)

128 Ive never seen information about the effects of that enormous electronic field generated, when driving a Tesla or EV, on the human body day after day. It must be like getting an MRI every day ... bottom line, it can't be good.

There's an easy fix. Wrap yourself in aluminum foil before getting behind the wheel.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 25, 2025 11:42 AM (s8j++)

129 Good rant; thanks.

epa dot gov/maui-wildfires/hazardous-materials-removal

In part, EPA's hazardous material removal team completed its work on December 21, 2023. EPA crews removed more than 200 tons of hazardous materials from 1,400-plus properties in fire-impacted areas. After hazardous materials were removed, a soil stabilizer was applied to prevent ash and debris from migrating off properties due to surface water run off or wind. Additionally, more than 30 tons of lithium batteries from 94 electric and hybrid vehicles and 274 power walls were safely collected from the impacted area and shipped off Maui for recycling.

CBS Local News, February 23, 2025
Lithium-ion battery likely caused massive junkyard fire in Camden, EMR Metal Recycling says

LA Times, California
How L.A. removed 1 million pounds of flammable lithium-ion batteries from its burn zones, April 9, 2025

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at April 25, 2025 11:42 AM (NFX2v)

130 I think someone is trying to create a town that does not allow cars in the city limits which reminds me of the sights, but especially the smells, of Mackinac Island. But it might be fun to live in a golf-cart only community.
Posted by: Oglebay at April 25, 2025 11:28 AM (2ap+5)

Go to San Pedro, Belize. All golf carts, but they're ICE. It'll give you an idea of what it would be like.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at April 25, 2025 11:42 AM (g8Ew8)

131 It is amusing the left argues you don't need reliable transportation.

If you can't afford an EV that may or may not work then you take the bus peon.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 25, 2025 11:42 AM (t0Rmr)

132 If strong E/M fields harm people I suspect EVs are not the real concern anyway.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 25, 2025 11:43 AM (t0Rmr)

133 I think someone is trying to create a town that does not allow cars in the city limits which reminds me of the sights, but especially the smells, of Mackinac Island. But it might be fun to live in a golf-cart only community.

And if your sister, her husband and their three kids, with all their associated baggage (which fills up a minivan) want to visit you for a week, how exactly would that work?

Posted by: Archimedes at April 25, 2025 11:44 AM (s8j++)

134 Won't satisfy the Veruca Salt brigade here. The goal post will simply move as if by magic.
Posted by: whig at April 25, 2025 11:11 AM (ctrM5)

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Great to hear some movement from Patel. And Bondi started RICO charges against TdA for human trafficking among other things.

Both good signs and I look forward to them going after the NGO scams and releasing the Epstein info.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at April 25, 2025 11:44 AM (Vh9CX)

135 School buses seem like an application where an electric drive-train would work OK. Charge them overnight, haul kids to school in the morning, recharge during the day, haul kids back home in the afternoon. Seems like a good fit, better than taxicabs, police cars, city buses, or over the road trucks, where the vehicle needs to operate around the clock, with no multi hour recharging opportunities.

Except for the minor problems of buses catching on fire and burning up kids, or the brakes failing and killing kids in crashes.

Posted by: BillyD at April 25, 2025 11:44 AM (Yt3ED)

136 We rented a plug in hybrid while on vacation in Spain a few years ago. What I noticed about it, is that the gas tank seemed to have less capacity than a regular car. We've been there several times and rented cars, and we had to stop for gas every other day. Never had to do that before.

Posted by: mishdog at April 25, 2025 11:44 AM (mhruQ)

137 Wrapped in foil?

The first human baked potato not named Stetler.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 25, 2025 11:44 AM (FEpIj)

138 Aren't EVs particularly ill-suited for the role of large truck/delivery/transport vehicle? The larger the payload, the more the battery consumes all available space, making them impractical as a replacement for, say, diesel semi-tractor-trailers.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at April 25, 2025 11:44 AM (xAP/Y)

139 Showrunner for Star Wars Andor says we are all products of rape.

Die Mouse Die.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 25, 2025 11:23 AM (FEpIj)

What a horrible life that person must lead. Imagine having that as your life story.

And lacking self-awareness enough to be in the television/movie biz, which wouldn't exist as it does without rape as a form of currency.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2025 11:44 AM (qgNVD)

140 127 If a hybrid car doesn't require it to be plugged in, I would consider it.

I’m the opposite. The whole point of having a hybrid or battery-powered car would be being able to safely plug it in
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Well, if your house needs electrical upgrades before being able to safely plug it in, then this benefit isn't available.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 25, 2025 11:45 AM (Dv3i1)

141 Capitalism did not create exploding EVs or whale-killing wind farms.

Posted by: Oglebay at April 25, 2025 11:45 AM (2ap+5)

142 At least Rivians are good-looking vehicles--at least better than Teslas IMHO.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at April 25, 2025 11:45 AM (xAP/Y)

143 123 Despite Seattle being a bastion of retarded liberalism, Teslas remain ubiquitous.

I can look out the window and count 50 zipping by in about five minutes.
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 25, 2025 11:41 AM (dtskA)
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The Legislature is still in session trying to finalize the budget. They will likely come up with a Tesla Tax. They've pretty much taxed everything else.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 25, 2025 11:45 AM (W/lyH)

144 128 Ive never seen information about the effects of that enormous electronic field generated, when driving a Tesla or EV, on the human body day after day. It must be like getting an MRI every day ... bottom line, it can't be good.

There's an easy fix. Wrap yourself in aluminum foil before getting behind the wheel.
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Great point! Im off to get my covid booster because I know a company would never sell anything that would be unsafe.

Posted by: Wardo at April 25, 2025 11:46 AM (c1UUT)

145 Capitalism did not create exploding EVs or whale-killing wind farms.

What about exploding whales?

Posted by: Archimedes at April 25, 2025 11:46 AM (s8j++)

146 Use of air tax

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 25, 2025 11:46 AM (FEpIj)

147 Ads?

Look for the MILF with the deeeeeep cleavage.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 25, 2025 11:16 AM (s8j++)

Also known as Ariana's trench.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 25, 2025 11:46 AM (FCbAQ)

148 The electric bus boogaloo is a classic principal-agent theory example where sanctions should be applied to those agents (the bureaucracy and pols) pushing that shit for their own benefit.

Basically, I think asset forfeiture is the proper sanction against bureaucrats and pols in power that make such decisions.

If we can search Bubba on a plane and take his hard earned cash and require him to prove in court he earned it properly, then we can do the same to our native criminal classes in the bureaucracy and elected office.

Posted by: whig at April 25, 2025 11:47 AM (ctrM5)

149 If the answer is no why the hell are they being sold?
Posted by: 18-1 at April 25, 2025 11:24 AM (t0Rmr)

They are a step between where we are now and the abolition of powered personal transportation.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 25, 2025 11:47 AM (ExV1e)

150 Showrunner for Star Wars Andor says we are all products of rape.
____

Hi Son, today's the anniversary date of when I raped your mom. Happy B'day in nine months!

Posted by: Every Dad at April 25, 2025 11:47 AM (Dv3i1)

151 64
‘ I grew up in Cincinnati when Nick Clooney, George's dad, was our local news anchorman.’

Me too. But I grew up in SE IN close enough to get channel 12.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 25, 2025 11:47 AM (jbnUc)

152
Today’s header photo is also a picture of the “recycling” operation at the EV recycling plant in Kilwinning.

Well Kill Winning is sure has an omenous sound.

Posted by: Eromero at April 25, 2025 11:47 AM (LHPAg)

153 It's always fun for me to watch the constant whiplash in my Chrome browser's Google Hatefeed... When they need NPCs to love what they're programmed to hate (Big Pharma, "fast fashion," war, etc.) or hate what they're programmed to love (Rogan, Musk, Tesla, Kennedys, etc.), the Hatefeed gets even more singleminded than usual.

Right now, every third article is about how Musk is the new Satan, and another third is about how Teslas are the worst cars on earth.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 25, 2025 11:47 AM (BI5O2)

154 Also known as Ariana's trench.
Posted by: OneEyedJack
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That is a step up from Sonobi and foot fungus ads.

Count your blessings.

Posted by: whig at April 25, 2025 11:48 AM (ctrM5)

155 Car kept running despite the battery drawing down and we made it home.

I’ve had that experience, too. “Funniest” (for some definitions of funny) was driving a 1984 Mustang home at night, and noticing the lights were dimming. Well, crap. Only a few blocks to go, as long as I don’t turn off the engine I should be fine. And why would I do that.

Flashing lights in rear view mirror, that’s why.

“Did you know your lights were dim?”

“Thank you, officer. I think I need to replace the battery tomorrow.”

Fortunately, the right combination of barely turning the engine over and pumping the gas pedal at exactly the right time got it restarted. That’s all mediated through a computer nowadays, I think. Does the computer know how to start a car on low-battery conditions?

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 25, 2025 11:48 AM (EXyHK)

156 Ads?

Look for the MILF with the deeeeeep cleavage.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 25, 2025 11:16 AM (s8j++)

Also known as Ariana's trench.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 25, 2025 11:46 AM (FCbAQ)

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The Huffington Coast?

/Is she still relevant or even alive?

Posted by: ShainS at April 25, 2025 11:49 AM (gMWM2)

157
You’re sitting at just over 3,000 miles—barely out of the honeymoon phase.

You misspelled "warranty term"

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 25, 2025 11:49 AM (y9nCu)

158 If a hybrid car doesn't require it to be plugged in, I would consider it. My nearly 100 year old home is maxxed out in the electrical transmission department and I really don't want to pay to upgrade it.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 25, 2025 11:36 AM (Dv3i1)

My work vehicle is a hybrid, I've never plugged it in. I don't even know if I'm supposed to.

I just know it makes a humming sound when it's running on the electric. Gets gas mileage about what you'd expect a vehicle that size to get. So I don't know what the point is.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2025 11:49 AM (tZwal)

159 If you are a bit OCD like me and your commute is likely to have some spots of stop and go or slow and go the Prius is kind of nice as it shows your MPG is not taking a hit since the gas engine is not idling when you are stopped. I did not buy another one when mine was totaled years ago, but it was a decent drive for front range Colorado. Even not being a pure EV, I always told relatives in Minot ND that I didn't think the Prius would be worth it up there with those winters. You couldn't pay me to tow my horses with an electric vehicle.

Posted by: PaleRider at April 25, 2025 11:51 AM (bP/i4)

160 150 Showrunner for Star Wars Andor says we are all products of rape.

Well, it wasn't rape-rape, was it? NOT MY FOLKS!

Posted by: Auspex at April 25, 2025 11:51 AM (j4U/Z)

161 138 Aren't EVs particularly ill-suited for the role of large truck/delivery/transport vehicle? The larger the payload, the more the battery consumes all available space, making them impractical as a replacement for, say, diesel semi-tractor-trailers.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent

Pretty much. A few people have pondered about diesel electric setups like locomotives have but the CO2 is the devil cult refuses anything to do with internal combustion.

Look for a big push to ammonia as the next 'clean' fuel boondogle.

A snippet, "Chemical companies smell an opportunity. Several firms are developing green ammonia, a route to ammonia in which hydrogen derived from water electrolysis powered by alternative energy replaces hydrocarbon-based hydrogen, making ammonia production virtually carbon dioxide–free. They are also investing in carbon capture and storage to minimize the carbon impact of making conventional ammonia, creating what the industry refers to as blue ammonia."

Posted by: whig at April 25, 2025 11:51 AM (ctrM5)

162 The Huffington Coast?

/Is she still relevant or even alive?
Posted by: ShainS

She's still down in Hootersville, two-timing Oliver with Arnold Ziffel.

Posted by: Bulg at April 25, 2025 11:51 AM (77rzZ)

163 I just know it makes a humming sound when it's running on the electric. Gets gas mileage about what you'd expect a vehicle that size to get. So I don't know what the point is.
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My BiL has a Honda Accord hybrid. It gets about 5 mpg more highway than my gas powered Kia sedan of the same size. Maybe a little better in the city. It cost about $8k more, but it is a slightly better car.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 25, 2025 11:52 AM (Dv3i1)

164 If a hybrid car doesn't require it to be plugged in, I would consider it.

I have a hybrid Highlander and there's no way to plug it in.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 25, 2025 11:52 AM (ExV1e)

165 Our 2020 Explorer "sleeps" when the engine's off, but there's still a drain on the battery. Mostly for the telematics and alarm systems. The drain is significant. If the SUV isn't started and run periodically, like every 4-5 days the battery will drop below the voltage needed to start it.

That has happened to us numerous times... mostly during cold weather. It's a known "feature."

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 25, 2025 11:52 AM (Q4IgG)

166 Me too. But I grew up in SE IN close enough to get channel 12.

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Yep, it was channel 12!

Posted by: Lady in Black at April 25, 2025 11:53 AM (qBdHI)

167 Some more wood for the EV fires. Talking with numerous automotive technicians (aka "mechanics"), none of them like to work on EVs or hybrids. The batteries are a safety hazard to the techs, which have to take more precautions when working on an EV or hybrid vehicle. In fact many senior techs will pass on hybrids or EVs and give the work to the younger techs (who don't like working on them either). I miss V-8s and soon V-6s.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, Ltd. at April 25, 2025 11:53 AM (pZ64F)

168 At the airport...at midnight...in the rain...
Posted by: Hemingway at April 25, 2025 11:38 AM (W/lyH)

Why, my friend just might write the perfect country and western song with a little tweaking.

Posted by: David Allen Coe at April 25, 2025 11:53 AM (FCbAQ)

169
"Dad, where do babies come from?"

"Well, son, when a rapist loves someone very very much..."

Posted by: Auspex at April 25, 2025 11:53 AM (j4U/Z)

170 I found a picture of Milwaukee County Circuit Judge Hannah Dugan from 2016. Imagine what you think she looks like....then make it worse:

https://tinyurl.com/mrykys68

I almost feel like my Ackbar nic is more in order...

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at April 25, 2025 11:53 AM (JCZqz)

171 the Prius is kind of nice as it shows your MPG is not taking a hit since the gas engine is not idling when you are stopped

This is true of a lot of cars nowadays, even fully ICE vehicles. As far as I can tell, they literally just turn off the engine and then turn it on again when you hit the pedal.

Saves gas, but I don’t see how it can be good for the engine. I do a lot of walking when I travel, and I hear a lot of very new-looking vehicles with very ragged-sounding engine starts when the light turns green.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 25, 2025 11:53 AM (EXyHK)

172 Is Judge Dugan a synonym for a sea cow?

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 25, 2025 11:54 AM (FEpIj)

173 17 Why or rather how have the "Jump to bottom of comments" click been totally taken over by a page of craptastic ads?

I never see that

Posted by: MAC V SOG at April 25, 2025 11:09 AM (P4Pk9)

Nor do I. Firefox with Javascript disabled.

Posted by: BillyD at April 25, 2025 11:54 AM (Yt3ED)

174 Fortunately, the right combination of barely turning the engine over and pumping the gas pedal at exactly the right time got it restarted. That’s all mediated through a computer nowadays, I think. Does the computer know how to start a car on low-battery conditions?
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair

Diesels do not require additional electrical power to keep running but if you shut it off with a weak battery, it is chancy if you can get it restarted. Especially if the engine gets cold. Car diesels used to eat batteries in the winter all the time back in the eighties unless you plugged up the oil heater and kept them in a garage preferably.

Posted by: whig at April 25, 2025 11:55 AM (ctrM5)

175 Hi Son, today's the anniversary date of when I raped your mom. Happy B'day in nine months!
Posted by: Every Dad at April 25, 2025 11:47 AM (Dv3i1)

Don't listen to your father, I raped him. And then when you were born, you raped me!

And then every 28 days, Aunt Flo rapes me.

Rape rape rape. Rapity rapey rape rape! And your poo rapes your butt!

The circle of life...

Posted by: Every Mom at April 25, 2025 11:55 AM (vmr7r)

176 Right now, every third article is about how Musk is the new Satan, and another third is about how Teslas are the worst cars on earth.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 25, 2025 11:47 AM (BI5O2)

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And the final third are likely about how oppressed the dreamy murderers row of "political prisoners" Noe Diaz De Leon, Kilmar Abrego Garcia, Luigi Mangione, Mumia Abu-Jamal, The Tsarnaev Brothers, and The Menendez Brothers are.

Posted by: ShainS at April 25, 2025 11:56 AM (gMWM2)

177 Is Judge Dugan a synonym for a sea cow?
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 25, 2025 11:54 AM (FEpIj)
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Hey, now.

Posted by: The Huge Manatee at April 25, 2025 11:57 AM (6YdsJ)

178 Chubby, from the Little Rascals, also had a thyroid condition that caused his fatness (and short stature). He underwent an operation and started losing weight-rapidly. He died age 21 of myocarditis. he was 4'7" and 110 lbs when he died.

Posted by: RIP Norman Chaney, 1936 at April 25, 2025 11:57 AM (G5+As)

179 This is true of a lot of cars nowadays, even fully ICE vehicles. As far as I can tell, they literally just turn off the engine and then turn it on again when you hit the pedal.

Saves gas, but I don’t see how it can be good for the engine. I do a lot of walking when I travel, and I hear a lot of very new-looking vehicles with very ragged-sounding engine starts when the light turns green.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 25, 2025 11:53 AM (EXyHK)

I hate those. I rented an Audi once that did that. It is terrible for round about when you need to jump in between cars quickly. You have to anticipate the opening and factor in the delay from the engine restarting. Super annoying.

Posted by: mishdog at April 25, 2025 11:57 AM (mhruQ)

180 "Dad, where do babies come from?"

"Well, son, when a rapist loves someone very very much..."
Posted by: Auspex

She'll let him grab her by the pussy...

Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 25, 2025 11:57 AM (Dv3i1)

181 170 I found a picture of Milwaukee County Circuit Judge Hannah Dugan from 2016. Imagine what you think she looks like....then make it worse:

https://tinyurl.com/mrykys68

I almost feel like my Ackbar nic is more in order...
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at April 25, 2025 11:53 AM (JCZqz)

Her mouth is like a gaped asshole, and that's one of her better qualities.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at April 25, 2025 11:57 AM (V9cMX)

182 Midnight at the airport stranded. Happened to me. Parked the car for 5 or 6 days. Came back late flight. Half asleep get to the car turn it on. Dashboard lights up red. Low coolant.

I get out to check and notice a puddle of coolant on the ground. Turned out there was a leak and over that time all the coolant leaked out.

I said fuck it I’ll deal with this tomorrow. Took a taxi home then came back the next day, called. Tow truck.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 25, 2025 11:58 AM (IZezY)

183 Don't listen to your father, I raped him. And then when you were born, you raped me!

And then every 28 days, Aunt Flo rapes me.

Rape rape rape. Rapity rapey rape rape! And your poo rapes your butt!

The circle of life...
Posted by: Every Mom

You said rape 11 times.

Posted by: Hedley Lamarr at April 25, 2025 11:58 AM (JCZqz)

184 You said rape 11 times.
Posted by: Hedley Lamarr

I like rape.

Posted by: Every Mom at April 25, 2025 11:58 AM (JCZqz)

185
Pretty much. A few people have pondered about diesel electric setups like locomotives have but the CO2 is the devil cult refuses anything to do with internal combustion.

DE propulsion has a lot of advantages for locomotives or ships where your power requirements are largely steady. Years ago I read a really interesting magazine article about a guy converting a trawler yacht from straight diesel to DE. Of course, his electric motors were not marine-rated so I expect that they'd corrode away into sludge within 2 years, but the process was interesting nonetheless.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 25, 2025 11:58 AM (y9nCu)

186 @161

>>Pretty much. A few people have pondered about diesel electric setups like locomotives have but the CO2 is the devil cult refuses anything to do with internal combustion.

There is no way to make EV's practical short of several paradigm shift's in battery and material technology.

Which is to say, it's never going to happen, so the quicker we can slay the EV Goblin the better.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 25, 2025 12:00 PM (XV/Pl)

187 I wish GM would have continued to build and improve upon the Volt. Gen 1 was a great car, had a neighbor who bought one used and drove it as his prime driver for 5-6 years. Put 100k + on it with zero issues, solid EV miles and good MPG in hybrid mode. Volt Gen 2 was a good improvement. Then they dropped it and went full EV.

Volt tech was a good middle point to settle on. But no. CANCELED like all the Zazz Blammymatazz reunion shows.

Posted by: GigantorX at April 25, 2025 12:00 PM (x8k2o)

188 Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 25, 2025 11:53 AM (EXyHK). Interesting, I did not know that new cars did that, after my Prius I've only bought used cars. Since the hybrid has the electric motor I don't think that feature hurts its ICE much but I got in a fender bender and the insurance company totaled mine at 6-7 years so it didn't have any longevity testing.

Posted by: PaleRider at April 25, 2025 12:00 PM (bP/i4)

189 Wait, is there something wrong with eating bugs? Asking for a friend...

Posted by: Polka will never die at April 25, 2025 12:01 PM (KliiE)

190 Lots of people buy plug-ins because they believe the hype about materially higher gas mileage, and we’re coming off an era of $5 gas. They don’t do the math that shows they’ll have to drive it 100k+ miles just to break even from the materially higher selling price.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at April 25, 2025 12:01 PM (qYULV)

191 While the buses showed early promise, we encountered ongoing operational issues that ultimately led us to pause their use

Let me guess. You did a thirty minute test run on a nice, not too hot summer day with little traffic and then decided to virtue-signal with taxpayer money. Then the first cold day, the busses stopped working halfway through their route.

Posted by: Chuck C at April 25, 2025 12:02 PM (D0HYP)

192 ‘ You know, Milwaukee is a pretty cool city. It'd be a great city if we could clear out some of the leftists.’

This bit popped to mind: https://is.gd/e3JOhr

Posted by: Bert G at April 25, 2025 12:02 PM (VARTN)

193 I have a hybrid Highlander and there's no way to plug it in.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

There's a plug hidden up there under the kilt.

Posted by: Hoot Mon! at April 25, 2025 12:02 PM (G5+As)

194 There is no way to make EV's practical short of several paradigm shift's in battery and material technology.

Ever read any of the lit related to EVs ? They assume that battery tech will double every X number of years. Like Moore's Law - which is just a theory.

Posted by: Fast Eddie Felson at April 25, 2025 12:03 PM (44/3W)

195 As Elon Hate has shifted from X to Tesla, X has seen revenues boom. Right now, the company projects $1.5 billion in EBITDA for 2025, meaning it can pay cash interest on all its debt in 2025, and has over a billion dollars cash in the bank. Advertising is growing in single digits and data licensing/subscription revenue is growing in double digits.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 25, 2025 12:04 PM (gMI5R)

196 Q: Does Blowing up a Warehouse Full of Lithium Batteries Count as “Recycling”?

A: It qualifies and "geo-engineering" and "weather modification"

Posted by: Kindltot at April 25, 2025 12:04 PM (D7oie)

197 Lots of people buy plug-ins because they believe the hype about materially higher gas mileage, and we’re coming off an era of $5 gas. They don’t do the math that shows they’ll have to drive it 100k+ miles just to break even from the materially higher selling price.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at April 25, 2025 12:01 PM (qYULV)

I did the math when I bought my hybrid. Should take 6 years - after I retire - to break even but, since I keep cars for at least 10... shouldn't be a problem.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 25, 2025 12:04 PM (ExV1e)

198 Why on Earth does an electric bus need fancy electro-magnetic brakes ? Good lord. School bus technology has really not changed much in at least 75 years. Sure, make the propulsion via electric motors, but at least leave the hydraulic, mechanical brake system alone FFS

Posted by: deadrody at April 25, 2025 12:05 PM (qf6NU)

199 …but I got in a fender bender and the insurance company totaled mine at 6-7 years so it didn't have any longevity testing.

Don’t know if you’re being understatedly sarcastic about “fender bender” but that’s another old-man-rants-at-clouds for me. There is so much crap on cars that even minor accidents can result in it being cheaper (and provide less exposure to liability—for a while it was difficult to get seat belts replaced, although that seems to have changed) to total the car than fix it.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 25, 2025 12:05 PM (EXyHK)

200 Hey! RINO Abbott thinks windmills work. F*cking douchebag.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 25, 2025 12:05 PM (/U5Yz)

201 She's still down in Hootersville, two-timing Oliver with Arnold Ziffel.

Posted by: Bulg at April 25, 2025 11:51 AM (77rzZ)

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Heh. Every time we'd hear her voice, that's what most of us thought.

/And even though Melania's Slovenian accent is still obvious, it has more of a Russian supermodel vibe than the Gabors' harsh Hungarian or Huffington's harsh Greek (funny to recall that her ex-husband Michael was a RINO who'd endorsed RINO Ahnold for Califzuela Governor during that recall election while Arianna initially ran against him as a D).

Posted by: ShainS at April 25, 2025 12:06 PM (gMWM2)

202 Nood. Kash.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 25, 2025 12:06 PM (ExV1e)

203 178
‘ He died age 21 of myocarditis. he was 4'7" and 110 lbs when he died.
Posted by: RIP Norman Chaney, 1936’

Poor fat kid.
If it makes you feel better, you gave me plenty of laughs when I was a kid.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 25, 2025 12:06 PM (jbnUc)

204 NOOD Kash arrests Judge

Posted by: ShainS at April 25, 2025 12:06 PM (gMWM2)

205 One day after the dust settles, I hope to see someone on the inside come clean about the specific psychological mechanics of how Monster Tech controls the NPCs.

From the outside, as a human, I can't see how it could work (and it doesn't on normies). But there seems to be a solid quarter of the population for whom it does.

But, why and how are my questions.

Orwell obviously understood it to some extent with Eastasia and Oceania, but the basic notion - we've always been at war with XXXXX - remained constant.

What Silicon Valley accomplished is really impressive. The same wine soaked old harridan or obese barista who says "War Is Not The Answer" for fifteen straight years will be flicking her bean to footage of a Russian soldier's burning corpse with the flip of a switch.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 25, 2025 12:07 PM (BI5O2)

206 Why on Earth does an electric bus need fancy electro-magnetic brakes ?

How many engineers have you ever met ?

Posted by: Fast Eddie Felson at April 25, 2025 12:07 PM (44/3W)

207 As Elon Hate has shifted from X to Tesla, X has seen revenues boom. Right now, the company projects $1.5 billion in EBITDA for 2025, meaning it can pay cash interest on all its debt in 2025, and has over a billion dollars cash in the bank. Advertising is growing in single digits and data licensing/subscription revenue is growing in double digits.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 25, 2025 12:04 PM (gMI5R)

I find it rather mirthful, that everyone who ever wanted to hurt Musk by calculating how much money he's lost in his recent endeavors into the political realms, can't quite contemplate the fact that... he doesn't care!

That's the thing about having F-You money, whenever people try to hit you in your wallet, you get to say "f**k you," and keep doing what you're doing.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2025 12:07 PM (OqgaI)

208 EV battery tech is not going to improve much if at all. But the EV motors can be improved. Axial Flux motors are better and more efficient than Radial Flux. But they are much more expensive to build. That’s why you mostly see them in hybrid supercars.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at April 25, 2025 12:09 PM (qYULV)

209 Like Moore's Law - which is just a theory.

Moore’s law isn’t even a theory, it’s an observation. And it’s an observation limited to microchips. It’s been fairly accurate, but it has is an obvious lower limit, and may already be slowing.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 25, 2025 12:11 PM (EXyHK)

210 That's the thing about having F-You money, whenever people try to hit you in your wallet, you get to say "f**k you," and keep doing what you're doing.
Posted by: BurtTC
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On the other hand, you have someone like Bill Gates that uses that fu money to bang kids procured by Epstein, neuter and poison people across the globe by his vaxx programs, and is trying actively to impoverish us via the WEF so that we Eat Ze Bugz meanwhile buying up prime farmland. Nasty critter.

Posted by: whig at April 25, 2025 12:11 PM (ctrM5)

211 Why on Earth does an electric bus need fancy electro-magnetic brakes ?

My guess would be weight.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 25, 2025 12:12 PM (EXyHK)

212 An ICE car with gas in the tank does not lose its fuel supply when it’s parked for days on end, nor does it draw on its 12V battery.

sure, sure. just got in from putting a charger on the wife's kia, which has been sitting for three weeks due to various life occurrences. my civic, on the other hand, seems to have done just fine with it.

i blame infotainment.

Posted by: anachronda at April 25, 2025 12:12 PM (edU/H)

213 You have pretty well covered everything on the topic… all I can add, redundantly, is that EV is utterly pointless for any consumer.. but fools and their money are soon parted.

Posted by: tubal at April 25, 2025 12:14 PM (PCK5/)

214 Why, my friend just might write the perfect country and western song with a little tweaking.
Posted by: David Allen Coe
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Uh...I did it first. 'Early Morning Rain'

Posted by: Gordon Lightfoot at April 25, 2025 12:16 PM (XeU6L)

215 I do not care what anyone drives. Buy/drive what you want, but...No subsidy of *any* sort. NONE. No tapayer funded charging stations, no tax credits, no break on motor vehicle taxes, or highway use tax.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 25, 2025 12:21 PM (XeU6L)

216 When General Motor announced the launch of its “BrightDrop” electric delivery van several years ago, it forecast that by 2023 the BrightDrop would be producing about $1 billion per year in revenue, which comes out to about 12,000 units sold per year at the anticipated sales price of about $85,000 per unit. But GM sold less than 500 units in 2023, and only sold 1,529 BrightDrops in 2024"

I realize that the way the car companies got themselves into this mess is that they all bought into massively fraudulent financial projections, and then everyone nodded and agreed for political/social reasons. No one dared to say "hey wait, all those numbers are total bullshit!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 25, 2025 12:23 PM (uWKK8)

217 nor does it draw on its 12V battery.

They'll flatten a battery just not in 10 days.

Also beware this fun escapade.

fob battery gets weak.
car goes goofy trying to connect.
car battery goes flat.

Need to charge/replace both to get going again.

Note: start/stop deep cycle battery charged right up to full.

Posted by: DaveA at April 25, 2025 12:23 PM (FhXTo)

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Posted by: Fantom web wallet at April 25, 2025 12:49 PM (J5zUk)

219 Great Rant Buckster!

This subject needs to never die so we never repeat these deadly mistakes.

Posted by: Danimal28 at April 25, 2025 02:07 PM (klw0w)

220 Buck tilting at windmills again..

Posted by: Sixiron at April 25, 2025 02:21 PM (c4Wfm)

221 The Pidgeon refuses to drive the EV bus

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at April 25, 2025 04:36 PM (wGqjj)

222 The only reason for a plugin is "vitue signaling " ?
I own a plugin, so, bullshit.
When I bought it,I was saving about $20 a week, now that gas prices have fallen it's down to about $13. I'll break even in less than 7 years. That was just for local trips. I've also taken multiple 1000+ mie trips without ever desperately searching for an operational charger. Even more importantly, in a SHTF situation, I won't be searching for gas to get my wife or myself to medical care, because I'll be charging off my (boy am I stupid, according to Buck) 10kW solar.
I have a friend who owns an ionic who routinely parks it for a week or two and never saw that problem. The self discharge characteristic of lithium batteries are waaaaay below anything that would cause a 10 day discharge. Your 10 year smoke detector uses lithium for just that reason.

Posted by: buddhaha at April 25, 2025 04:52 PM (cIFM2)

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