The Classical Saturday Coffee Break & Prayer Revival

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Good morning boys and girls and everything in between. It has been a sad week here at the Horde family. It's a good day to be alive.

Before we enter the Prayer Revival just a few housekeeping matters to go over. (Rulz for those of you in Spring Green)

1) This is an open thread. Feel free to lurk, opine and/or bloviate.
2) Be nice, be kind. And no you can't tie your younger sibling up with zip ties.
3) No! Don't even think about it! No running with sharp objects.
4) Have a blessed Easter.

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AoSHQ Weekly Prayer List

Please submit any prayer requests to me, “Annie’s Stew” at apaslo atsign hotmail dot com. Prayer requests are generally removed after four weeks unless we receive an update.

Prayer Requests:

1/18 – Jrgunn77 requested prayers for health, which was fine a few months ago, but recently has been his with extremely high BP spikes, anxiety attacks, constant headaches, and hernia troubles. Jrgunn is on meds for the BP and anxiety, scheduled for a colonoscopy, and has referrals for a cardiologist and neurologist. These out of the blue anxieties are the worst. Jrgunn also asked for prayers for a friend from church, Rodney, who has recently suffered lung failure and is on oxygen, to come home from the hospital, and Pastor Ben and his brother, for comfort after the passing of their little sister from drug addiction.

3/8 Update – Pneumonia has cleared, and the neurologist is treating him for Parkinsonian tremor. The CT scan showed 3 hernias. The BP, head pressure, and physical strength is better and he was able to work a couple of hours. Rodney is awake, but has intestinal bleeding. They are still waiting for test results, and if they are bad, he will be knocked off the transplant list. He’s still on 100% oxygen.

3/8 Update – Lester Fahrner posted that BP spikes and anxiety needs lab and urine tests for carcinoid tumor and pheochromocytoma.

3/15 Update – Rodney was placed on the official transplant list on 3/12. On 3/15, he received donor lungs during a 14 hour surgery. Now prayers are for his recovery and for God’s provision for the avalanche of medical bills.

1/31 – Bif Bewalski gave an update on Smash. The blood work confirmed that she does not have pancreatitis. They gave her fluids, 3 types of digestive system meds via IV, and then ignored her for 8 hours. Anyway, she is home and feeling better.

3/22 Update – They are going to run an upper GI series of tests to confirm whether a previous surgery has allowed fluid to settle onto the upper stomach, causing all the issues. Then Smash got the flu, which turned into pneumonia. On the mend now.

3/1 – antisocial justice beatnik would appreciate some prayers for Mom, who is continuing to suffer terribly from a botched medical procedure back in mid-Dec. Mom was rushed from her rehab facility to ER on 2/28, then back to the hospital that botched her care in Dec. Antisocial justice beatnik and Dad are doing their best to support her and each other, but Dad has his own existing medical issues to worry about, and AJB’s FMLA is running out.

4/5 Update – Mom has not made much (if any) rehab progress. While her current facility is much better about pain management, her bed sore pain remains a major impediment. On the plus side, her bed sore is slowly improving and doctors have decided she no longer required antibiotics for osteomyelitis. She’ll soon be transferred to yet another facility for rehab. Antisocial justice beatnick is planning to take up the DOD “Deferred Resignation Program”, which will allow for continued care for the parents while figuring out what to do for a new career.

3/1 - thefritz requests prayers for his friend Jeff, his wife, and two children. Jeff’s pancreatic cancer has spread to his liver. They have stopped chemo and moved him to home hospice.

3/17 Update – Jeff succumbed to pancreatic cancer on 3/16. Please pray for his wife and two grown children.

3/8 – Misanthropic Humanitarian offered a prayer. “Dear Father, Thank you for sparing Donald J. Trump’s life in Butler, PA. Thank you for a President who loves his country and is trying to do everything he can to improve our citizens lives. We often come to you with our troubles and not to you as often as we should

when we should be thankful. We pray through Your Son, our Savior, Jesus Christ. Amen.”

3/8 - Tonypete asked for prayers for K and Mr. X. K started dating Mr. X, and he is a very nice gentleman, but he mentions his late wife in every other sentence. It’s starting to wear on K.

3/8 – Ben Had asked for continued prayers for AZ deplorable as he works to get his strength back.

3/22 Update – AZ deplorable moron reports that he is on the mend after the stroke. His left side is still not up to snuff, but he is working on it. Thank you all for your prayers.

3/8 – Retired Buckeye Cop asked for prayers for his younger brother, J. He has been a police officer at a local Catholic university for 26 years. Due to internal politics, the police chief has informed J that his position (Captain) is being phased out as of 6/30 and he needs to seek employment elsewhere. May J find a new job soon.

3/8 – Piper asked for prayers for a close friend who has breast cancer. It’s already at stage 3 when it was discovered. She has chemo, surgery, and radiation coming up. She is a mom, with a son age 12. Her husband is being a trooper, but it’s hard.

3/8 – Cosda posted good news. Two years ago, we prayed for a sister who had colon cancer and was undergoing surgery and chemo. That was successful. On 3/7, her checkup showed that she was still cancer free. Thank you for the prayers and thank God for the healing.

3/13 – Teresa in Fort Worth’s health continues to improve with her cancer treatments. Her CA19-9 results continue to go down, which is great news.

3/15 – Grammie Winger updated that Rev is still weak, but he is eating and his spirits are good.

3/15 – Fenelon Spoke requested prayers for the daughter of their beloved, retired, organist. The daughter is a dear woman on her second bout of cancer and is having treatments. Thanks so much!

3/15 – Smell the glove sent thanks for the prayers. The aunt is doing well with her treatment for colon cancer.

3/15 – MkY asked for continued prayers for his wife, Judy, who was diagnosed with stage IV renal cancer 2 months ago. She is getting immunotherapy, along with another drug that is supposed to enhance immunotherapy. She is very weak, and they don’t know if the various issues she is having is due to the cancer(s) or the drugs. Probably both. In early April, she is due for another CT scan with contrast (which hurts). If the tumors have not shrunk, they will probably start alternative therapies.

3/20 – L asked for continued prayers for her daughter, Shannon. She is the Franciscan sister, who was traveling to Cleveland for surgery. The operation was a success! It involved replacement of two valves, and repair to aortic aneurysm. The surgery was 3/11, and she was released 3/18. She is staying with her aunt, a retired nurse, this week, and will go to her sister’s house for continued recovery next week. L and her husband have not seen her in person, since they came down with a bad flu, but have visited via a video call, and can see improvement. L sends her thanks for the prayers. Shannon appreciated it, L appreciated it, and it helped keep them all calmer.

3/22 – Eromero could use prayers. He was in ICU with double pneumonia, but is improving and out of ICU now. He is on a pegtube the rest of his life.

3/29 Update – Eromero sent his thanks for the prayers. He is in p/t, o/t, and eating real food, though mashed unrecognizable. He expects to be in for another 7-10 days. He also asks for the Lot’d blessing on

all here who need physical or spiritual healing.

3/22 – vmom deport deport deport asked for prayers for her husband, because layoffs are expected at his company soon.

3/29 Update – Hubby is still working – the company laid off a bunch of employees but not him. He is hoping to hang on at least another year.

3/22 – screaming in digital got her mom moved into assisted living on Tuesday. There have been some rough spots, and no doubt will be more, but she is doing better than they dared hope. Many thanks for your prayers.

3/22 – J.J. Sefton posted that his latest MRI indicated no new tumor growth and the surgical wound is healing nicely. He took his final chemo pull last night, so fingers crossed, he thinks he is in the percentage of glioblastoma patients that ultimately outpace recurrence by greater than the expected timeframe. MRIs now every two months for the rest of his life. God bless you all for your prayers and kindness.

3/24 – FenelonSpoke requested prayers for a young friend, “C”, who was just in the hospital, probably for depression. Fen doesn’t have all the details yet. “C” has the intense job of being an addictions counselor and is a very bright, caring RC woman. She needs healing and the rough places made smooth. Thanks very much.

3/29 Update – Thanks so much for the prayers. “C” is out of the hospital and doing much better.

3/24 – Mister Ghost posted “Hospitals can kill you. Prayers are much better. I am stuck in a hospital in the Boston area for the 8th straight day and am starting to look like a concentration camp survivor. This is brutal and if there’s anyone who could say a prayer for me, I would be eternally grateful. Prayers carry a great deal of power. I’m not as sure about modern medicine….”

3/24 – Update on Jewell45. Her daughter posted an update, with approval to share: "Okay. Need to do a life update for mama. She hasn’t been doing so hot the last couple weeks. Like I said last month, the cancer has been spreading. She’s been declining quite a bit since then. Her energy level is very low and she’s struggling with breathing after the smallest tasks or even if shes talks too much. The decision has been made to transition to hospice care. I want to be clear here about a couple things. Number one, she is NOT in her final days although her oncologist estimates with how the cancer has progressed that she is probably down to several months, 6-9 maybe more. Number 2. She is up for visitors but not much. Please contact myself, dad or her first. She won’t last much longer than 15-20 minutes if you do stop by, so keep your expectations low. Other than that, continued prayers and good vibes are always appreciated. Much love to you all. If you have questions, feel free to contact me privately. This is obviously a difficult time as you can imagine but I’ll do my best."

3/24 – Ellipse (“…” asked to enlist the prayers of the amazing horde, for a good friend’s wife, who is in need of a rather sudden biopsy.

3/27 Update – They are waiting on results from a mass that was somehow missed last month on a mammogram. They are understandably very scared and won’t know until 3/31. She has other symptoms too. The kids are older but not grown.

3/27 – Cosda asked the Horde to keep his wife in their prayers. She recently had a mole removed from her thigh and the biopsy report came back this morning as melanoma cancer. They will be seeing an oncologist the week of 3/31.

3/27 – Sponge sent an update. “Thank you, all of you, for your thoughts and prayers for the First Lady during this ridiculously difficult journey the last several months. Your kind words and heartfelt prayers

really made a difference for her and we're eternally grateful for it. God is great and we've crossed over what should be the final big hurdle in this battle. She's over the moon excited and is feeling incredibly blessed today. God Bless you all and thank you so very much.”

3/29 – FenelonSpoke asked for prayers for “C”, the father of a friend. “C” has to have a benign tumor removed, which is pressing on his spine and making walking difficult.

3/29 – neverenoughcaffeine had requests: 1. Baby Isaac is now at Seattle Children’s Hospital with additional issues. He’s 2 months old and has spent lots of time in hospitals. 2. Bonnie, who was just diagnosed with a cancerous nodule in her lung. Thankfully it hasn’t spread and immunotherapy will start when she receives the drug specifically tailored to her need. 3. Charlie, who suffered a nasty fall that broke his back and cracked his skull. Two brain bleeds have incapacitated him. He has a long road to recovery.

4/5 Update – 1. Nothing new on Baby Isaac. 3. Charlie is speaking, but not easily. He is hoping to return to his home in OH the week of 4/7. Your prayers have helped. Please keep them coming for Charlie, Isaac, and Bonnie. Thank you.

3/29 – FenelonSpoke requested prayers for “J”, the grown son of a friend who is back living with his parents. He is having some mental health issues and other unspecified problems. He needs healing and rough places made smooth. Thanks.

3/29 – Our Country is Screwed asked to be kept in our prayers as he starts his chemo regimen this week.

4/1 – Sock Monkey’s family experienced a tragedy, and needs prayers. His brother-in-law and friend chose to take his own life, in a moment of despair. Please pray for Sock Monkey’s sister-in-law, their 5 children, and their beautiful granddaughter, as they grieve.

4/5 – Quarter Twenty posted his appreciation for God’s peace through treatments and surgery on his right eye. He said God has provided abundantly! He has been working to memorize Hebrews 13:20 “Now the God of peace ….”

4/5 – Tonypete humbly requested prayers for his most recent grandson, who arrived early. He was 3 pounds plus a few ounces at birth. He and his Mom are doing well and Mom was discharged from the hospital. Baby boy will be staying at the NICU for a couple of months.

4/5 – John the River asked for prayers for a friend he’s never met, Michael, who was a visitor his blog. Michael is having serious cardiac issues.

4/5 – rhennigantx asked for prayers for his daughter. She has GI issues over pain and nerve damage drugs. She was kicked out of her PhD program by lying liars that said the email they sent her that said she could sit out a semester as the class she needed was not being taught, said that they never wrote that email.

4/5 – screaming in digital requested prayers for all the Horde in need.

For submission guidelines and other relevant info, please contact Annie's Stew, who is managing the prayer list. You can contact her at apaslo at-sign hotmail dot com. If you see a prayer request posted in a thread comment, feel free to copy and paste it and e-mail it to Annie's Stew. She tries to keep up with the requests in the threads, but she's not here all of the time, so she may not see it unless you e-mail it to her. Please note: Prayer requests are generally removed after four weeks or so unless we receive an update.

2 Corinthians 4:8-9

We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair, persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian (ONT Cob Emeritus) at 07:56 AM

Comments

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1 first.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 19, 2025 07:57 AM (e5NfL)

2 Good mornin'

Posted by: JM in Illinois at April 19, 2025 07:57 AM (gC6Wb)

3 Good Morning.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at April 19, 2025 08:00 AM (eaOja)

4 Glory to the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit. As it was in the beginning, is now and will be forever.

Hail Mary, full of grace, blessed art thou among women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us now and at the hour of our deaths.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at April 19, 2025 08:02 AM (pJWtt)

5 BRCC AK47

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 19, 2025 08:02 AM (gbOdA)

6 Greetings, Horde! Happy Holy Saturday, and thank you MisHum and Annie for this thread - we sincerely appreciate you.

Still enjoying my King Harv's Dominican Republic coffee... highly recommend.

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at April 19, 2025 08:04 AM (kOluj)

7 Well, I'm a passenger in a car. We just passed a carpentry truck which in addition to its business name it had a large painted on sign saying "Jesus, the best carpenter ever." It (so far) made my morning!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 19, 2025 08:05 AM (d0eoX)

8
Might want to update that update on Jewells.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 19, 2025 08:05 AM (9Isye)

9 Prayers up for everyone.

"For the sake of His sorrowful Passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world."

Posted by: no one of any consequence at April 19, 2025 08:06 AM (ZmEVT)

10 “Take a guard,” Pilate answered. “Go, make the tomb as secure as you know how.” 66 So they went and made the tomb secure by putting a seal on the stone and posting the guard.”

Matthew 27:65-66

Posted by: Marcus T at April 19, 2025 08:07 AM (4FYvp)

11 Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit. As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be, world without end. Amen.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 08:07 AM (ZOv7s)

12
Speaking of Jesus...

the cartoon The King of Kings seems to be doing well, and has high review scores.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 19, 2025 08:07 AM (9Isye)

13 Don't forget Mrs and Mr Salty this morning. They've had a rough time of it.

Posted by: fd at April 19, 2025 08:10 AM (uH1zk)

14 Good morning Mis Hum and Horde

Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2025 08:11 AM (ypFCm)

15 One of my favorite parts of Easter is that Nicodemus helped bury Jesus.

All the disciples had fled, and Nicodemus had more to lose than maybe anyone, and he still stood up and did that.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Are you honest enough to acknowledge Darwin disproved evolution? at April 19, 2025 08:13 AM (Dv9LQ)

16 Mrs. Lloyd has spent the last week in the hospital and it is a very good thing. For too long she had ignored her health, her diet, etc. and now she is faced with irrefutable proof that she must make serious and immediate life changes. This is a great blessing for Holy Week. Had things not happened the way they did, she might have left us quite soon.

It has been difficult for the household to carry on without her, but - yet again - God had this all planned out. My youngest, whose primary activity hitherto was gaming all night on the computer, has stepped up and become a responsible adult, taking on chores without my asking, and watching the kids so that I can remain at work.

Strange to say, I haven't slept this much or this deeply in a while. As soon as the kids are in bed, I crash out, and wake refreshed. For obvious reasons, I could not attend the Good Friday service, so I prayed the Rosary instead and after some chastisement, the kids settled down and listened to me pray. Tomorrow my father will visit us for the first time since Covid, which is going to be great.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 08:13 AM (ZOv7s)

17 Speaking of Jesus...

the cartoon The King of Kings

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(unfamiliar, looks)

Wow. Uma Thurman? Pierce Brosnan? Kenneth Brannaugh (that one I can kind of see)

That's interesting.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Are you honest enough to acknowledge Darwin disproved evolution? at April 19, 2025 08:14 AM (Dv9LQ)

18 Posted by: Soothsayer at April 19, 2025 08:07

I saw it twice. Once with FenSpouse and then with a friend whose husband didn't want to see anymore animated films after their kids grew up. I throughly enjoyed it and the voice actors all did a great job!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 19, 2025 08:15 AM (DjQfP)

19 Prayer for healing for Salty's wife and Mrs. Lloyd. Prayers for comfort and peace for jewell's family in their time of sorrow.

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at April 19, 2025 08:15 AM (SfhV1)

20 “ Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid.”

John 14:17

So do not fear, for I am with you; do not be dismayed, for I am your God. I will strengthen you and help you; I will uphold you with my righteous right hand.

Isaiah 41:10

May the Lord’s blessing be upon you all this day, especially those in need.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 19, 2025 08:16 AM (4FYvp)

21 Today is The Harrowing of Hell

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at April 19, 2025 08:16 AM (Wx316)

22 thx for the prayers

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 19, 2025 08:17 AM (gbOdA)

23 Kenneth Branagh was excellent as Charles Dickens. Story plot is about Dickens writing a lifebofbJesus for his kids/ which he did. He starts narrating the story and he and his son get involved in the Biblical story.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 19, 2025 08:18 AM (DjQfP)

24 Mrs Cop likes to watch that gender-bending new "Matlock" TV show. She was watching a recording of a recent episode and one of the plot points caught my attention:

Pregnant woman shows up at the legal office late at night and needs a divorce within 3 hours. Because verbally abusive husband is going to make his wife have a C-section. Um ... okay ... I thought C-sections were usually performed in extremis and the mother doesn't casually stroll-in at Zero-Dark-Thirty.

The scene that clenched that the husband was a bad guy was the pregnant THOT character saying "He wan'ts to have the baby .... *gasp* ... baptized without my permission!!!!"

Somehow, I don't think the script writers are a bunch of Anabaptists. Interesting that a TV show took time to tell the viewers that infant baptism is a bad thing.

For a bunch of people that tell us that the supernatural does not exist, they sure spend a lot of time trying to suppress it (see: silent prayer forbidden in vicinity of UK abortion abattoirs.)

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at April 19, 2025 08:18 AM (pJWtt)

25 One of my favorite parts of Easter is that Nicodemus helped bury Jesus.

All the disciples had fled, and Nicodemus had more to lose than maybe anyone, and he still stood up and did that.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Are you honest enough to acknowledge Darwin disproved evolution? at April 19, 2025 08:13 AM (Dv9LQ)

So many events in those three days are astoundingly remarkable. Almost more than one can take in.

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at April 19, 2025 08:18 AM (SfhV1)

26 This week Lourdes announced its 72 proven miracle. These are cases of healing which are well documented and beyond any scientific explanation. There are countless others that are 1 in a million, but still theoretically possible.

There are miracles everywhere, all one needs to do is look for them.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 08:19 AM (ZOv7s)

27 Salty has an update on Mrs Salty in tech thread comment 124

Please continue to pray for her

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at April 19, 2025 08:21 AM (Wx316)

28 But God demonstrates His own love for us in this: While we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

- Romans 5:8

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at April 19, 2025 08:22 AM (SfhV1)

29 I watched "The Passion of the Christ" yesterday as is my custom since I own a DVD.

I kept thinking "WTF was Judas thinking?"

I just cannot understand that.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at April 19, 2025 08:23 AM (ZmEVT)

30 Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 08:13 AM (ZOv7s)

Prayers for your wife, and for your family.
Does she have a patron saint I will slso pray to for her recovery.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at April 19, 2025 08:23 AM (Wx316)

31 Glad to hear that your wife is getting good help and your family is stepping up, AH.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 19, 2025 08:24 AM (ZEzFB)

32 she has the update on Jewells.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at April 19, 2025 08:24 AM (cvWHI)

33 The Chosen.

Posted by: Come and see at April 19, 2025 08:25 AM (dg+HA)

34 May the Lord’s blessing be upon you all this day, especially those in need.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 19, 2025 08:16 AM (4FYvp

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Amen!

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at April 19, 2025 08:25 AM (kOluj)

35 Mrs. Lloyd has spent the last week in the hospital and it is a very good thing. For too long she had ignored her health, her diet, etc. and now she is faced with irrefutable proof that she must make serious and immediate life changes. This is a great blessing for Holy Week. Had things not happened the way they did, she might have left us quite soon.
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Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 08:13 AM (ZOv7s)

I prayed a Rosary specifically for Mrs. Lloyd last Saturday. I prayed for the intentions of the Horde, both stated and unstated, yesterday on Good Friday.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at April 19, 2025 08:26 AM (pJWtt)

36 For a bunch of people that tell us that the supernatural does not exist, they sure spend a lot of time trying to suppress it (see: silent prayer forbidden in vicinity of UK abortion abattoirs.)
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at April 19, 2025 08:18 AM (pJWtt)

Right?

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at April 19, 2025 08:27 AM (0JWOm)

37 Wow. Uma Thurman? Pierce Brosnan? Kenneth Brannaugh (that one I can kind of see)

That's interesting.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Are you honest enough to acknowledge Darwin disproved evolution? at April 19, 2025 08:14 AM (Dv9LQ)
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A bunch of celebrities have recently come out as Christian. Some may be opportunists, others just kept quiet about it for obvious reasons. Brosnan does not surprise me.

Gwen Stefani pitching the Hallowed app was a surprise. I guess she's a Catholic revert.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 08:28 AM (ZOv7s)

38 I prayed a Rosary specifically for Mrs. Lloyd last Saturday. I prayed for the intentions of the Horde, both stated and unstated, yesterday on Good Friday.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at April 19, 2025 08:26 AM (pJWtt)
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Based on events, your prayers were immediately heard and acted upon. Thank you!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 08:29 AM (ZOv7s)

39 Gwen Stefani pitching the Hallowed app was a surprise. I guess she's a Catholic revert.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 08:28 AM (ZOv7s)

I wish Hallow was a free app.

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at April 19, 2025 08:29 AM (SfhV1)

40 Since I was too late to get this added to the list, I'd like to request a prayer for a co-worker whose wife is giving birth to their first child. She was supposed to have delivered last week but the kid was being stubborn and they began inducing labor on Thursday.

Posted by: NR Pax at April 19, 2025 08:29 AM (lXCUP)

41 I watched "The Passion of the Christ" yesterday as is my custom since I own a DVD.

I kept thinking "WTF was Judas thinking?"

I just cannot understand that.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at April 19, 2025 08:23 AM (ZmEVT)

Judas was expecting a secular Messiah that would restore an independent Kingdom of Judea.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at April 19, 2025 08:29 AM (pJWtt)

42 they began inducing labor on Thursday.

Posted by: NR Pax at April 19, 2025 08:29 AM (lXCUP)

And here it is Saturday. I feel for her. No fun.

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at April 19, 2025 08:30 AM (SfhV1)

43 Prayers for your wife, and for your family.
Does she have a patron saint I will slso pray to for her recovery.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at April 19, 2025 08:23 AM (Wx316)
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Thank you. Her patron is St. Therese of Lisieux.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 08:30 AM (ZOv7s)

44 I won't be around much tomorrow, and I suspect this is the right thread for this. If you've never seen / heard it, or if you have:

The Man on the Middle Cross Said I Can Come
Alistair Begg

https://tinyurl.com/2ubctx8s

A scotsman in Texas IIRC. Fantastic four minute section out of a larger sermon.

Watch it because he makes some great points and has some fun comedy in it, but even shorter version for those reluctant to watch is roughly "If you arrive at the Pearly Gates and are asked "Why are you here?", any first person ("because I") response is wrong."

Worth the four minutes.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Are you honest enough to acknowledge Darwin disproved evolution? at April 19, 2025 08:32 AM (Dv9LQ)

45 For a bunch of people that tell us that the supernatural does not exist, they sure spend a lot of time trying to suppress it (see: silent prayer forbidden in vicinity of UK abortion abattoirs.)
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at April 19, 2025 08:18 AM (pJWtt)
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Remember, the greatest trick of the Devil is to convince you he doesn't exist.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 19, 2025 08:33 AM (cweKM)

46 There are miracles everywhere, all one needs to do is look for them.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

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Yep. I think Einstein had a quote about it. Something like "You can choose to live as though nothing is a miracle, or everything is a miracle."

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Are you honest enough to acknowledge Darwin disproved evolution? at April 19, 2025 08:34 AM (Dv9LQ)

47 And here it is Saturday. I feel for her. No fun.
Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead

I emailed him and got a response yesterday. They were still waiting. I have not heard from him since but I'm going to stay optimistic and assume that it's because the little one is here and taking up all their time.

Posted by: NR Pax at April 19, 2025 08:34 AM (lXCUP)

48 Judas was expecting a secular Messiah that would restore an independent Kingdom of Judea.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at April 19, 2025 08:29 AM (pJWtt)
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My wife was raised a Southern Baptist, and was shocked at what had been cut out of their canon. She said that without Maccabees, it is impossible to really understand the Gospel story. They provide the context necessary to understand both the political situation, and the spiritual controversy that was engulfing Judaism.

Put simply, there was a template where the Jews has risen up and defeated a foreign (Hellenistic) empire by force of arms. Why not try again?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 08:34 AM (ZOv7s)

49 A scotsman in Texas IIRC. Fantastic four minute section out of a larger sermon.

He's in a suburb of Cleveland. He's a marvelous pastor, sadly to retire this June after 40-some odd years at that church. He has a radio ministry I listen to most nights.

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at April 19, 2025 08:35 AM (SfhV1)

50 Thank you. Her patron is St. Therese of Lisieux.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 08:30 AM (ZOv7s)

I will pray to St Therese

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at April 19, 2025 08:35 AM (0JWOm)

51 Prayers for your wife, and for your family.
Does she have a patron saint I will slso pray to for her recovery.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at April 19, 2025 08:23 AM (Wx316)
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Thank you. Her patron is St. Therese of Lisieux.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 08:30 AM (ZOv7s)

Besides the saints to whom I have particular devotions, I always conclude a Rosary with, "All the angels and saints, pray for us." Just in case there's one of them waiting for a prayer.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at April 19, 2025 08:35 AM (pJWtt)

52 Yep. I think Einstein had a quote about it. Something like "You can choose to live as though nothing is a miracle, or everything is a miracle."
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Are you honest enough to acknowledge Darwin disproved evolution? at April 19, 2025 08:34 AM (Dv9LQ)
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I entered the Church almost 20 years ago, but it is only in the last five years that I have truly appreciated the spiritual side of the faith, the reality of angels, demons, and the visible effect they have on the world.

Biden is just a skin suit for them at this point. The way he moves, jerky motions and such. It's right out of a horror movie and yet so many people refuse to believe these creatures are real.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 08:38 AM (ZOv7s)

53 BREAKING: Supreme Court Blocks Trump’s Use of Alien Enemies Act to Deport Illegals — Justices Thomas and Alito Dissent

If SCROTUS is working on finding the perfect political case to neuter Trump this one isn't it, yet. They will make Dredd Scott a blip in US history.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at April 19, 2025 08:38 AM (/lPRQ)

54 Okay, I just looked and I'm beginning to suspect that the "fact checkers" are taking a near-identical approach as the "everyone in history was gay" people.

That einstein quote is "questionable" or "unsourced" or something similar. No one is allowed to believe anything interesting or fun any longer.

We'd run across that same thing recently regarding Shakespeare helping translate the Psalms. Oh no, he didn't do that!!! You're a fool to believe that!!! Even though the dates, his service to the king, etc line up.

"Despite the skepticism, the idea persists among some enthusiasts" is what you see.

Funny how that only works for stuff like Christianity and not things like Global Warming or EVs.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Are you honest enough to acknowledge Darwin disproved evolution? at April 19, 2025 08:39 AM (Dv9LQ)

55 If SCROTUS is working on finding the perfect political case to neuter Trump this one isn't it, yet.

Are they expecting that each illegal immigrant be given a full trial?

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at April 19, 2025 08:40 AM (SfhV1)

56 He's in a suburb of Cleveland. He's a marvelous pastor, sadly to retire this June after 40-some odd years at that church. He has a radio ministry I listen to most nights.
Posted by: grammie winger

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Thanks, I'll track his channel down

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Are you honest enough to acknowledge Darwin disproved evolution? at April 19, 2025 08:40 AM (Dv9LQ)

57 Thanks, I'll track his channel down

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Are you honest enough to acknowledge Darwin disproved evolution? at April 19, 2025 08:40 AM (Dv9LQ)

It's called Truth for Life.

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at April 19, 2025 08:41 AM (SfhV1)

58 My wife was raised a Southern Baptist, and was shocked at what had been cut out of their canon. She said that without Maccabees, it is impossible to really understand the Gospel story. They provide the context necessary to understand both the political situation, and the spiritual controversy that was engulfing Judaism.

Put simply, there was a template where the Jews has risen up and defeated a foreign (Hellenistic) empire by force of arms. Why not try again?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 08:34 AM (ZOv7s)

The Epistle to the Hebrews has specific references to Maccabees. The only Bible that I've found that actually makes the connection is the Oxford Annotated Bible published about 1977. While not a Catholic Bible, the Oxford Annotated has some good footnotes explaining word-forms and variants.

Ironically, the footnote in "Hebrews" has to explain to the reader what the Books of Maccabees are -- since Luther removed them from the Protestant Bibles.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at April 19, 2025 08:41 AM (pJWtt)

59 It's called Truth for Life.

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Thanks grammie

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Are you honest enough to acknowledge Darwin disproved evolution? at April 19, 2025 08:42 AM (Dv9LQ)

60
Anyone remember Pastor Shambach?

He was a firebrand.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 19, 2025 08:43 AM (9Isye)

61 Nicodemus, while having benefited from the trappings of power, was more intellectually honest than the rest of the Pharisees, obviously. He struggled with maintaining his own stature, as opposed to serving God’s purpose. He is the only Pharisee who tried to understand Jesus (secretly). In his questioning, at least according to the Gospels, especially in John 3, Nicodemus left little doubt that Jesus “came from God”. He carefully chose his moments of “defiance” to the other Pharisees. Even the preparation of Jesus’ body for burial could be seen as complying with Jewish custom. But there is no doubt a very stark difference between his interactions with Jesus, as opposed to the others who for example even after the crucifixion went to Pilate and wanted guards posted at the tomb (Matthew 26:63).

Posted by: Marcus T at April 19, 2025 08:43 AM (4FYvp)

62 Yep. I think Einstein had a quote about it. Something like "You can choose to live as though nothing is a miracle, or everything is a miracle."

Einstein is also the guy that, occasionally, would leave his apartment before remembering to put on pants.

Personally, I'm decidedly undecided. As CDB wrote, there's some things in this world you just can't explain. Are they the result of angels and demons ? Another plane of existence ? Ancient Aliens ?

I don't know and never will. Don't trust anyone else that's certain in what I see as the unknowable. Maybe some things are not of this world, and others simply not of our current knowing.

Maybe the truth lies somewhere between nothing is a miracle and everything is.

Posted by: Fast Eddie Felson at April 19, 2025 08:43 AM (CSQIx)

63 Well, got to go. We have to take the youngest grandson (15 years) for his rehearsal to prepare for baptism. He will be a new Papist this evening during Easter Vigil.

HE IS RISEN!

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at April 19, 2025 08:45 AM (pJWtt)

64
For years and years there was a minister who passed away a long time ago but his sermons were still on the radio every day. I forget his name.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 19, 2025 08:46 AM (9Isye)

65 >> Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 08:34 AM (ZOv7s)

I will keep you and your wife in my prayers. His bless you both.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 19, 2025 08:46 AM (4FYvp)

66 We have to take the youngest grandson (15 years) for his rehearsal to prepare for baptism.

How wonderful! I love baptisms.

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at April 19, 2025 08:46 AM (SfhV1)

67 A friend of mine encourages people to keep a journal of every miracle they personally experience. I thought that was a great idea.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Are you honest enough to acknowledge Darwin disproved evolution? at April 19, 2025 08:46 AM (Dv9LQ)

68 Is Salty Catholic?

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at April 19, 2025 08:47 AM (OTdqV)

69
YouTube just dragged me over to Big Mike's podcast when I did not disconnect from watching "2010" fast enough.

Fellas, my poor eyes saw the most hideous thing -- Big Mike sporting a "panda ears" hairstyle.

I'm scarred for life. I need some alone time to heal ...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 19, 2025 08:47 AM (Tv15w)

70 For years and years there was a minister who passed away a long time ago but his sermons were still on the radio every day. I forget his name.
Posted by: Soothsayer

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Oral Roberts.

I'm still unclear on why he needed to build an entire hospital, though.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Are you honest enough to acknowledge Darwin disproved evolution? at April 19, 2025 08:47 AM (Dv9LQ)

71 Are they expecting that each illegal immigrant be given a full trial?
Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead

In a word - More.

"President Donald Trump invoked the Alien Enemies Act of 1798 to target members of the Venezuelan gang Tren de Aragua (TdA) for expedited deportation."

- Notice to the alien in a language acceptable to them.
- A timeline acceptable to the alien.
- Proof that the alien is a card carrying member of TdA.
etc...

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at April 19, 2025 08:48 AM (/lPRQ)

72
I was thinking of Dr Dobson recently. Focus On The Family had a bullseye on it all during the 90's and early 00's.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 19, 2025 08:48 AM (9Isye)

73 Reposting Salty's update from this morning's Tech Thread:
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Update on my wife.

She had a quiet night, and is getting better from the events of yesterday.

She was much improved, complaining about her situation to me, like why can't I sit up?, which is a sign of normality. The medical team was going to remove a blood pressure support pump this weekend, then she could safely sit up.

Got her Sudoku from the car, and let her rest before dinner. Small portions of some nice food like salmon. Worked on my story from a chair in the corner of the room.

Then alarms went off. Her heart went into afib. People streamed into the room, working to get her heart back. The crash cart showed up, and shock paddles were placed. Stay with us [Mrs Salty] was the chant. 12 people, including her high-powered doctors, in the room. Clear. Shock. Her body jumped.

Heart back in rhythm, but now more time needed for stabilization.
Posted by: NaCly Dog

Posted by: screaming in digital at April 19, 2025 08:49 AM (Szews)

74 Fellas, my poor eyes saw the most hideous thing -- Big Mike sporting a "panda ears" hairstyle.

I'm scarred for life. I need some alone time to heal ...
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM)

Big Mike identifies as a Mouseketeer.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at April 19, 2025 08:50 AM (/lPRQ)

75 Good Saturday morning, horde.

Lord have mercy on us all. Prayers have been offered for those in critical need--Mrs. Nacly, Mrs. Lloyd, and I include Jim SND with them.

I pray that Jewells passed peacefully and that her soul is at rest with God, free of pain for evermore.

And for all of those who despair, including my husband, that they find joy and purpose in the life God has given them.

And all of the rest of you, who have asked, and who have not, and carry burdens. Thank you for being here together.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at April 19, 2025 08:50 AM (h7ZuX)

76 Fellas, my poor eyes saw the most hideous thing -- Big Mike sporting a "panda ears" hairstyle.
I'm scarred for life. I need some alone time to heal ...
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 19, 2025 08:47 AM (Tv15w)

You ain't seen nothing yet
B-b-b-baby, you just ain't seen n-n-n-nothing yet...Excuse me while I whip this out!

Posted by: Big Mike, Hung Like A Donkey at April 19, 2025 08:50 AM (R/m4+)

77 Yeah, I was mostly just wanting to make the hospital joke.

Sort of related, I picked up a study Bible that turned out to have been done by the Jimmy Swaggart... organization? Industry? I'm not sure how to phrase it, because I'm sure he didn't personally write it out.

Regardless, it's really great. "The Expositors Study Bible"

Shame about the association.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Are you honest enough to acknowledge Darwin disproved evolution? at April 19, 2025 08:50 AM (Dv9LQ)

78
I just looked it up -- it was J. Vernon McGee, and his program is "Through the Bible. The man could explain Scripture like no other.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 19, 2025 08:51 AM (9Isye)

79 44 "If you arrive at the Pearly Gates and are asked "Why are you here?", any first person ("because I") response is wrong."
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Are you honest enough to acknowledge Darwin disproved evolution? at April 19, 2025 08:32 AM (Dv9LQ)

Good reminder!

Posted by: m at April 19, 2025 08:51 AM (CQE5S)

80 Prayer request update: Bill, my sister-in-law's father (and also a member of our church), had a good scan result for his pancreatic cancer.

His wife, who had MS and was the light of all our lives, passed away a year ago this week. Their kids were able to all be with their father on the first anniversary, which was a blessing.

I have been fervently praying that Bill make it to this week, and that request was graciously granted. My sister-in-law would not have been able to take losing both her parents in one year.

Please pray that the family gets a little more time with Bill before he joins his wife in heaven.

Posted by: pookysgirl, on mini-vacation at April 19, 2025 08:51 AM (LiPZK)

81 Prayers for all.

Posted by: Mick at April 19, 2025 08:52 AM (gYvAB)

82 Big Mike as in elderly Mike Obama?

Elderly multimillionaire world famous and with consultants, designers, stylists, etc. Mike Obama?

(thinks back to earlier pajamas in Walmart conversation)

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Are you honest enough to acknowledge Darwin disproved evolution? at April 19, 2025 08:52 AM (Dv9LQ)

83 I have taken up my new abode in the burgeoning metropolis of Santa Fe, Texas. It's down here in Galveston County. Well, I say "abode" but it's really a compound with three buildings, not counting the vehicle shelter.

It's also very close to work. I'm not tired and upset when I get to the office any more, coffee or not.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at April 19, 2025 08:53 AM (Cx0W8)

84 Was preparing an epistle regarding NaCly, but 129 in the Tech Thread gives you the latest word from NaCly his own self, so I will not be redundant.
I will however request that you raise up a prayer for Robert, Linda, and the cardio hospital team!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar - THIS Year in Corsicana - again at April 19, 2025 08:53 AM (hOUT3)

85 10 “Take a guard,” Pilate answered. “Go, make the tomb as secure as you know how.” 66 So they went and made the tomb secure by putting a seal on the stone and posting the guard.”

Matthew 27:65-66
Posted by: Marcus T

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This makes me like Pilate a bit:

John 19:21-22
"Then the chief priests of the Jews said to Pilate: Write not, The King of the Jews; but that he said, I am the King of the Jews.

Pilate answered: What I have written, I have written."

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at April 19, 2025 08:53 AM (OTdqV)

86 My guess is Letitia used the marriage line no more than a write off on that form

Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2025 08:54 AM (ypFCm)

87 Updates
Baby Isaac is back at Seattle Children's Hospital in case he needs surgery, they damaged his esophagus while intubating him when all of this started.
Cousin Charlie was flown home from FL to OH and is in rehab. He is speaking again, however he has a long road of rehab ahead oh him.
Bonnie is tolerating her medicine to treat her tumor and tires easily.
Thank you all for continuing to pray for them.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at April 19, 2025 08:54 AM (2NHgQ)

88 Heh, Colorado is pushing a state law which will make illegal to sell/buy firearms with removable 'magazines'. About the most common firearms sold today...
For Wesley Crusher - What are technically 'clips' will also be defined as 'magazines'.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at April 19, 2025 08:55 AM (/lPRQ)

89 64
For years and years there was a minister who passed away a long time ago but his sermons were still on the radio every day. I forget his name.
Posted by: Soothsayer

This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: Through The Bible with Dr. J. Vernon McGee at April 19, 2025 08:55 AM (dg+HA)

90 Mornin' Horde, I'm going hiking today so I won't be around, but my items can be taken off the official prayer list - those were only intended to be gray box comments anyway.

Mom's still doing pretty well, although she'll tell me now and then that she doesn't want to be there. She rarely participates in activities, except she has been playing piano for the weekly Bible study! But she's safe and people are kind to her, and so far we've made sure she's had at least one visitor every day. Tomorrow we're all going to eat dinner with her there and I bought her favorite dessert - lemon pie.

(BTW, this doesn't need to be added to the list either)

Posted by: screaming in digital at April 19, 2025 08:56 AM (Szews)

91
73--Posted by: screaming in digital at April 19, 2025 08:49 AM (Szews)

SiD, thanks for the NaCly repost!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar - THIS Year in Corsicana - again at April 19, 2025 08:56 AM (hOUT3)

92 I'm not tired and upset when I get to the office any more, coffee or not.
Posted by: Cybersmythe at April 19, 2025 08:53 AM (Cx0W

Sounds like you are adapting well to the Texas life!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar - THIS Year in Corsicana - again at April 19, 2025 08:58 AM (hOUT3)

93 She rarely participates in activities, except she has been playing piano for the weekly Bible study! But she's safe and people are kind to her, and so far we've made sure she's had at least one visitor every day.

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Sounds good!
Enjoy your hike, SiD.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at April 19, 2025 08:59 AM (Wx316)

94 except she has been playing piano for the weekly Bible study!

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Wow, that seems like something really special.

I get the not wanting to be here part, though, and don't know if that's a bad thing. Sort of coming to terms with things.

Happy Easter to you and your mother.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Are you honest enough to acknowledge Darwin disproved evolution? at April 19, 2025 09:01 AM (Dv9LQ)

95 vmom,

no, Salty is not Catholic and Mrs. Salty is anti-Catholic. Beyond that, I don*t know.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at April 19, 2025 09:01 AM (cvWHI)

96 Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at April 19, 2025 08:53 AM (OTdqV)

Yesterday I watched an observance of the Stations of the Cross conducted at the Coliseum. It was a candlelight service, with thousands in attendance. I reflected on how those assembled at the arena to observe Christians being slaughtered, could ever conceive that the stadium would one day host a religious celebration for a later generation of Christians.

Posted by: kallisto at April 19, 2025 09:01 AM (0aihy)

97 Posted by: Cybersmythe at April 19, 2025 08:53 AM (Cx0W

Short commutes are great!

I used to live 7 minutes away from work. Went home every lunch hour . Sometimes took a nap, did some gardening in the summer, put a load of laundry in the tub, whatever.

Posted by: kallisto at April 19, 2025 09:05 AM (0aihy)

98 Prayers up for all the Horde's intentions. Those asked and unasked.

Posted by: olddog in mo at April 19, 2025 09:05 AM (hoCmQ)

99 Hell, Hawaii seems to have rewritten the Constitution so why not Colorado?

Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2025 09:05 AM (ypFCm)

100 I'm heading out soon but want to send love & hugs to all the Horde, especially all who are ill or hurting, plus a hiya for JT. Happy Easter!

Posted by: screaming in digital at April 19, 2025 09:06 AM (Szews)

101 Also I think it's possible, and probably common, for Christians to get homesick.

Posted by: Boron Quidquid - you realize Darwin disproved evolution, right? at April 19, 2025 09:06 AM (km43Y)

102
V.P. Vance attends Good Friday services at the Vatican.

https://tinyurl.com/bhzacvz9

(Someone tell Mrs. Sakty to hide her eyes)😇

Posted by: kallisto at April 19, 2025 09:07 AM (0aihy)

103 Hell, Hawaii seems to have rewritten the Constitution so why not Colorado?

This was always going to be the end-game, as soon as the Supreme Court granted themselves the power and duty of incorporation.

Prior to that ? The Bill of Rights was only a check on the Federal powers. States could, and did, ignore that original list of ten enumerations.

Posted by: Fast Eddie Felson at April 19, 2025 09:07 AM (CSQIx)

104 Good morning

You don't have to be able to outrun the sharp object, you just have to be able to outrun your running partner.

Posted by: muldoon at April 19, 2025 09:09 AM (/iMjX)

105
The annual Easter sourdough bread baking is going well; the rising of the yeast overnight delighted the grandkiddies.

Posted by: Auspex at April 19, 2025 09:09 AM (j4U/Z)

106 *sigh*

All I want to do is enjoy my modest breakfast of a cheese omelet and sausage patties...

But I have a devoted audience (three kitties) just *waiting* for me to not pay attention...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 19, 2025 09:09 AM (cweKM)

107 no, Salty is not Catholic and Mrs. Salty is anti-Catholic. Beyond that, I don*t know.
Posted by: Notsothoreau

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Thanks. I'm glad I didn't ask if she has a patron saint then.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at April 19, 2025 09:10 AM (Wx316)

108 But I have a devoted audience (three kitties) just *waiting* for me to not pay attention...

We just love you so much !!!

*big eyes*

Posted by: The Three Kitties at April 19, 2025 09:11 AM (CSQIx)

109 Heh, Colorado is pushing a state law which will make illegal to sell/buy firearms with removable 'magazines'. About the most common firearms sold today...
For Wesley Crusher - What are technically 'clips' will also be defined as 'magazines'.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at April 19, 2025 08:55 AM (/lPRQ)
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So you buy a $500 candy bar and get a gun for free?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 09:11 AM (ZOv7s)

110 Oh, wait. No. That's for bears.

Posted by: muldoon at April 19, 2025 09:11 AM (/iMjX)

111 Good morning good people. Prayers for all Hordian intentions - those requested and those known but to God.

A most loving Thank You for all prayers received for our preemie grandson. We are with him and Mom and Dad now and everyone is doing very well. He has gained a pound, is nursing well considering his age, and is thriving.

You folks are the best.

Posted by: Tonypete at April 19, 2025 09:11 AM (vKNmo)

112 Time to get moving, wishing everyone a Blessed Easter!

Posted by: kallisto at April 19, 2025 09:12 AM (0aihy)

113 >Heh, Colorado is pushing a state law which will make illegal to sell/buy firearms with removable 'magazines'.
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it IS law, because the governor- a notorious sodomite- signed it into law.

And while it doesn't outlaw certain firearms, the bill does make it a supreme PITA to acquire one. You have to take and pass a training course, pay fees, then hope your local county sheriff gives you a literal permission slip to take to the gun store.

The state also levied an excise tax on ammo, above and beyond regular sales tax.

I have 5 handguns that are grandfathered in.

Posted by: Savage Henry at April 19, 2025 09:12 AM (AOsQT)

114 Thanks, Auspex, because I had some I needed to proof for tonight and forgot it until you posted that.

(goes to find journal)

Posted by: Boron Quidquid - you realize Darwin disproved evolution, right? at April 19, 2025 09:13 AM (km43Y)

115 Heh, Colorado is pushing a state law which will make illegal to sell/buy firearms with removable 'magazines'. About the most common firearms sold today...

I'll believe the first state that is serious about such limits when they show the intellectual consistency to apply the same ban to all state and local law enforcement as well as any private security contracted by state or local government.

If John Q Citizen doesn't "need" a semi-auto sidearm with a 10 round magazine ? Then neither does Johnny Law.

Posted by: The Three Kitties at April 19, 2025 09:14 AM (CSQIx)

116 Over the past few years I have cut most negativity out of my life and tried to replace it with good thoughts. This has all but eliminated most of my web browsing, checking the news, and now it's also impacting my religious reading.

I've noticed that there are a subset of Catholics who are not pure Never Trumpers, but very close. That is to say, they are not willing to reverse previous positions to oppose Trump, but instead nit pick every good thing he does and either follow it with a "whatabout" or declare that whatever good came was accidental, it was implemented wrongly, etc. Not only do they denigrate him, anyone who supports him, however tepidly, is denounced as a cultist.

The next time I encounter one of these creatures, I shall ask them: Do you want Donald Trump to go to heaven?

Their answer shall call out their sins.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 09:15 AM (ZOv7s)

117 it IS law, because the governor- a notorious sodomite- signed it into law.

And while it doesn't outlaw certain firearms, the bill does make it a supreme PITA to acquire one. You have to take and pass a training course, pay fees, then hope your local county sheriff gives you a literal permission slip to take to the gun store.

The state also levied an excise tax on ammo, above and beyond regular sales tax.

I have 5 handguns that are grandfathered in.
Posted by: Savage Henry at April 19, 2025 09:12 AM (AOsQT)
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Lemme guess...this only applies to U.S. citizens.

Illegal aliens get a free firearm license along with a driver's license, REAL ID card, and a voter registration card when they show up at the DMV.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 19, 2025 09:16 AM (cweKM)

118 Best wishes, positive vibes, and good thoughts to all who are in distress this day.

Posted by: Savage Henry at April 19, 2025 09:17 AM (AOsQT)

119 I'll believe the first state that is serious about such limits when they show the intellectual consistency to apply the same ban to all state and local law enforcement as well as any private security contracted by state or local government.

Posted by: The Three Kitties at April 19, 2025 09:14 AM (CSQIx)
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Oh, they're consistent. They are quite open about disarming the public and creating an all-powerful government.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 09:17 AM (ZOv7s)

120 115 Heh, Colorado is pushing a state law which will make illegal to sell/buy firearms with removable 'magazines'. About the most common firearms sold today...
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It's weird that they'd want to encourage more belt fed weapons, but I guess they've thought it through and know best.

Posted by: Boron Quidquid - you realize Darwin disproved evolution, right? at April 19, 2025 09:17 AM (km43Y)

121 I have 5 handguns that are grandfathered in.
Posted by: Savage Henry at April 19, 2025 09:12 AM (AOsQT)
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Those are rookie numbers.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 09:18 AM (ZOv7s)

122 it IS law, because the governor- a notorious sodomite- signed it into law.

I think I found the problem.

Posted by: Never Vote For The Gay at April 19, 2025 09:18 AM (R/m4+)

123 Oh, they're consistent. They are quite open about disarming the public and creating an all-powerful government.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 09:17 AM (ZOv7s)

Exactly.

Posted by: The Three Kitties at April 19, 2025 09:19 AM (CSQIx)

124 Republicans in the CO statehouse- I think there are 2, maybe 3- are appealing to AG Pam Bondi to come out to Colorado and review the situation. I have decided to not hold my breath waiting for that outcome.

Posted by: Savage Henry at April 19, 2025 09:21 AM (AOsQT)

125 Exactly.
Posted by: The Three Kitties at April 19, 2025 09:19 AM (CSQIx)
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Colorado seems a really bad state to decide to create an insurgency in. All that broken terrain, narrow road networks.

Presumably this will get smashed by the feds because all the Dems do now is failure theater.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 09:21 AM (ZOv7s)

126 I'd like to see every firearms manufacturer tell Colorado that they will no longer sell or service firearms for law enforcement until the restrictions on civilian sales are repealed. Same for Oregon, which just had a host of ridiculous restrictions given the thumbs-up by the Court of Appeals. Barrett Industries did the same thing years ago in California, though not many agencies were buying their .50 BMG rifles.

Posted by: PabloD at April 19, 2025 09:22 AM (qJtN/)

127 So sorry to hear the news about Jewells. May she rest in peace, free of pain and may her memory be a blessing to her family.

Posted by: Moonbeam at April 19, 2025 09:23 AM (rbKZ6)

128 Folgers-it's Mountain Grown!

Posted by: Mrs. Olson at April 19, 2025 09:23 AM (G5+As)

129 Republicans in the CO statehouse- I think there are 2, maybe 3- are appealing to AG Pam Bondi to come out to Colorado and review the situation. I have decided to not hold my breath waiting for that outcome.
Posted by: Savage Henry at April 19, 2025 09:21 AM (AOsQT)
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She has a lot on her plate. I'm losing patience with people who think she can wave a magic want and convert the entire DoJ in to loyal, efficient employees who would never, ever tank a case "by accident" or otherwise slow down the Trump agenda.

They have to move slowly, and pick small fights so that the traitors can be identified and removed. That fact that Trump had years to vet his folks and a few rats managed to burrow in speaks of how difficult this task will be.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 09:24 AM (ZOv7s)

130 May the Peace of the Lord be with you all.

Posted by: Ben Had at April 19, 2025 09:24 AM (yp8Vj)

131 I'd like to see every firearms manufacturer tell Colorado that they will no longer sell or service firearms for law enforcement until the restrictions on civilian sales are repealed. Same for Oregon, which just had a host of ridiculous restrictions given the thumbs-up by the Court of Appeals. Barrett Industries did the same thing years ago in California, though not many agencies were buying their .50 BMG rifles.
Posted by: PabloD at April 19, 2025 09:22 AM (qJtN/)
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And ammo manufacturers as well.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 09:25 AM (ZOv7s)

132 I wish Hallow was a free app.

Mark Wahlberg runs it, which is part of why celebs are involved. I suspect he has it as a hedge against Hollywood giving him the death penalty.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 19, 2025 09:26 AM (QZThv)

133 >They have to move slowly, and pick small fights
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well, the Administration said it was going to be proactive in preserving and protecting 2A, so we will find out whether that is true, or just verbal outgassing.

Posted by: Savage Henry at April 19, 2025 09:27 AM (AOsQT)

134 Mark Wahlberg runs it, which is part of why celebs are involved. I suspect he has it as a hedge against Hollywood giving him the death penalty.
Posted by: Ian S. at April 19, 2025 09:26 AM (QZThv)
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There are discounts available. Our parish has a discount code.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 09:28 AM (ZOv7s)

135 132 I wish Hallow was a free app.

Consider using The Pause app from John Eldredge of Wild At Heart.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at April 19, 2025 09:29 AM (dg+HA)

136 well, the Administration said it was going to be proactive in preserving and protecting 2A, so we will find out whether that is true, or just verbal outgassing.
Posted by: Savage Henry at April 19, 2025 09:27 AM (AOsQT)
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Yeah, and the whole stupid business of MS13 boy was started because a DoJ lawyer sabotaged the case.

Are you sure you want them to jump in with people who will tank the case at the last minute?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 09:30 AM (ZOv7s)

137 Consider using The Pause app from John Eldredge of Wild At Heart.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at April 19, 2025 09:29 AM (dg+HA)

Thanks! I'll look into that.

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at April 19, 2025 09:30 AM (SfhV1)

138 Unlike the Democrat/ Marxists, the administration seems to be playing along with laws and don't have the fast track to some Leftist Judge who can make immediate decisions

Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2025 09:31 AM (ypFCm)

139 Thanks for the Coffee Thread and Prayer Revival, Mis Hum and Annie!

Prayers up for all of God's children, especially on this Blessed Easter weekend.

May God continue to bless the U.S.A. and Israel.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at April 19, 2025 09:31 AM (rxCpr)

140 Watching "The Chosen" has given me a much better understanding of John the Baptist.

Posted by: Ben Had at April 19, 2025 09:31 AM (yp8Vj)

141 140 Watching "The Chosen" has given me a much better understanding of John the Baptist.
Posted by: Ben Had at April 19, 2025 09:31 AM

And Judas Iscariot.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at April 19, 2025 09:34 AM (dg+HA)

142 >Are you sure you want them to jump in with people who will tank the case at the last minute?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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eh, I've pretty much lost all faith in governments and public institutions anyway, thanks to the COVID episode

anyway, apologies to all for the thread-jacking

Posted by: Savage Henry at April 19, 2025 09:34 AM (AOsQT)

143 Prayers for all listed in the thread, and for those who have not asked. RIP Jewells in your eternal home.
We would also like to ask for prayers. TRex's Mom was rushed to the hospital this week, and diagnosed with Parkinsons. She is currently in a rehab and we are trying to find an appropriate assisted living for the next step. She has been blessed with good health, so this has truly thrown her in so many ways. We will be splitting our time between VA and Pittsburgh. Your prayers will mean so much.

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at April 19, 2025 09:34 AM (cCn4/)

144 Two of my favorite Chosen episodes are the wedding at Cana, and the sick woman who just wanted to touch the hem of His garment.

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at April 19, 2025 09:35 AM (SfhV1)

145 Unlike the Democrat/ Marxists, the administration seems to be playing along with laws and don't have the fast track to some Leftist Judge who can make immediate decisions
Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2025 09:31 AM (ypFCm)
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It is a patient, intelligent strategy that is probably their best option at this point. American institutions need legitimacy to function, and at this point is the left that is behaving exactly as they characterize Trump - impulsive, out of control, criminal.

This is the last chance for the Republic. Trump's people know this, and they also know that if things go "hot", the work they are doing now will give them the upper hand in terms of legitimacy both at home and abroad.

I also think we need to have perspective. Trump has done more in 3 months than GOP has in 3 decades. He is also moving to lock in these gains and I notice that every single legal move the left makes is immediately countered.

Roberts is running out of cards to play.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 09:36 AM (ZOv7s)

146 144 Two of my favorite Chosen episodes are the wedding at Cana, and the sick woman who just wanted to touch the hem of His garment.
Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at April 19, 2025 09:35 AM (SfhV1)

I'm not familiar with this...series? Is it on a regular cable network, or is it Netflix or some other streaming service?

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at April 19, 2025 09:38 AM (h7ZuX)

147 Grateful, prayers ascending that the hard places be made as smooth as possible.

Posted by: Ben Had at April 19, 2025 09:38 AM (yp8Vj)

148 I'm not familiar with this...series? Is it on a regular cable network, or is it Netflix or some other streaming service?

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at April 19, 2025 09:38 AM (h7ZuX)

Right now it's streaming on Prime, I believe. I watch thru the Chosen app. As of now there are 4 seasons. The 5th is being released into theaters, then it will be available for streaming.

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at April 19, 2025 09:39 AM (SfhV1)

149 We probably all wish Trump moved at the speed the Leftists seem to be able to do this year stopping any decision in 1 day.

Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2025 09:39 AM (ypFCm)

150 The algo just recommended this vid, decided to drop it here before I go to Farmers’ Market.

A re-enactment of Our Lord’s crucifixion at of all places, Trafalgar Square:

https://tinyurl.com/3ty9j2bx

(It’s a short, maybe half a minute duration)

Posted by: kallisto at April 19, 2025 09:40 AM (eNP4g)

151
Alright then
have a nice day

Posted by: Savage Henry at April 19, 2025 09:41 AM (AOsQT)

152 Grammie, my favorite is Gaius asking for his son to be healed.

Posted by: Ben Had at April 19, 2025 09:41 AM (yp8Vj)

153 I'm not familiar with this...series? Is it on a regular cable network, or is it Netflix or some other streaming service?
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at April 19, 2025 09:38 AM (h7ZuX)
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You can also buy it on DVD, and we did that for the first couple of seasons and plan on buying the whole thing when it is done. We're all about physical media.

It's very good.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 09:42 AM (ZOv7s)

154 Right now it's streaming on Prime, I believe. I watch thru the Chosen app. As of now there are 4 seasons. The 5th is being released into theaters, then it will be available for streaming.
Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at April 19, 2025 09:39 AM (SfhV1)

Thanks--maybe I can get Mr. Dmlw! to watch it.

*He runs the the tv--I rarely touch it or watch it. I don't even know how to run the remotes. LOL

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at April 19, 2025 09:42 AM (h7ZuX)

155 >>anyway, apologies to all for the thread-jacking

There is no thread-jacking. It's an open thread.

Posted by: one hour sober at April 19, 2025 09:42 AM (Y1sOo)

156 Trump has done more in 3 months than GOP has in 3 decades.

In fairness, so has my dog and she's pushing 15

Posted by: gKWVE at April 19, 2025 09:43 AM (gKWVE)

157 Can't spell blessed Easter without blaster.

Just saying.

Posted by: blaster at April 19, 2025 09:43 AM (aoW8V)

158 Grammie, my favorite is Gaius asking for his son to be healed.

Posted by: Ben Had at April 19, 2025 09:41 AM (yp8Vj

oh that's so good too!

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at April 19, 2025 09:44 AM (SfhV1)

159 We probably all wish Trump moved at the speed the Leftists seem to be able to do this year stopping any decision in 1 day.
Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2025 09:39 AM (ypFCm)
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He's moving with blinding speed, but all the coverage focuses on setbacks, not his wins.

This is really our own fault. CNN and MSNBC are utterly irrelevant, and if Ace ignored them, they'd fade into obscurity. The new media is where it is at, and they deserve more attention. I mean, 60 Minutes is a joke at this point. Tapper is disgraced, so why give them any oxygen?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 09:44 AM (ZOv7s)

160 Lord have mercy on us all. Prayers have been offered for those in critical need--Mrs. Nacly, Mrs. Lloyd, and I include Jim SND with them.

I pray that Jewells passed peacefully and that her soul is at rest with God, free of pain for evermore.

And for all of those who despair, including my husband, that they find joy and purpose in the life God has given them.

And all of the rest of you, who have asked, and who have not, and carry burdens. Thank you for being here together.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at April 19, 2025 08:50 AM (h7ZuX)

Amen! Beautifuly said, Dash

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at April 19, 2025 09:44 AM (kOluj)

161 I also purchased the DVD set. Being able to watch it many times I pick up things I would have missed. I do chuckle at the humor about Nazareth.

Posted by: Ben Had at April 19, 2025 09:46 AM (yp8Vj)

162 Present!
☕️

Posted by: runner at April 19, 2025 09:46 AM (g47mK)

163 A re-enactment of Our Lord’s crucifixion at of all places, Trafalgar Square:

(It’s a short, maybe half a minute duration)
Posted by: kallisto at April 19, 2025 09:40 AM (eNP4g)
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Apparently, 40% of young people in England now attend Catholic Mass weekly. This is twice as many as go to the Anglican service.

Maybe freaking out about prayer actually makes people wonder what the big deal is and give it a try?

Oh, and locking up granny is always the sign of a confident regime.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 09:46 AM (ZOv7s)

164 Two inches of snow on the ground this morning. Brrr.

Posted by: muldoon at April 19, 2025 09:46 AM (/iMjX)

165 You can download the free The Chosen app and stream all the episodes of Seasons 1 thru 4 free of charge on whatever streaming device you prefer.
Season 5 was recently released in theaters over a span of three weekends.
Season 5 is also available via Amazon Prime for a month or so and then at some point will be available thru the app like the previous seasons.
A total of seven seasons are planned and Season 5 concludes in the Garden of Gethsemane.
It's all crowd funded without any Hollywood involvement and filmed in Texas and Utah.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at April 19, 2025 09:46 AM (dg+HA)

166 >>I also think we need to have perspective. Trump has done more in 3 months than GOP has in 3 decades. He is also moving to lock in these gains and I notice that every single legal move the left makes is immediately countered.

So many things have been happening in such a relatively short amount of time it's easy to miss some truly monumental things that have been happening. It's not just about taking proactive steps, it's about taking defensive measures to stop the abuses that were happening and planned to happen.

Very few seem to notice that Tulsi declassified a Biden era plan called "Strategic Implementation Plan for Countering Domestic Terrorism." Sounds nice but in reality it was an Orwellian scheme targeting us. You want to see action on preserving 2A rights? You just got it.

Here's a quick write up but this is going to blow up bigly.

https://tinyurl.com/4j465pbp

Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2025 09:46 AM (viF8m)

167 Did you guys see that AI generated image based on the shroud of Turin ?

Posted by: runner at April 19, 2025 09:48 AM (g47mK)

168 the Administration said it was going to be proactive in preserving and protecting 2A

Given that "We are going to have to kill them" career-limiting screed that was posted a few days back, I find it interesting that the Left sees the 2A as purely in an offensive role; that is, they love guns when it comes to killing people they want killed or to advance their cause of destroying Western civilization, but is the end of the world and must be stopped by any means if someone considers the use of a firearm for recreation, sport or self-defense.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at April 19, 2025 09:48 AM (a4flb)

169 Would you like to ???

Posted by: runner at April 19, 2025 09:48 AM (g47mK)

170 With the arrival of spring comes the resumption of the physical search for my F-I-L's remains. Big event coming mid-week. We should have a report by this time next week.

Posted by: muldoon at April 19, 2025 09:50 AM (/iMjX)

171 This is really our own fault. CNN and MSNBC are utterly irrelevant, and if Ace ignored them, they'd fade into obscurity. The new media is where it is at, and they deserve more attention. I mean, 60 Minutes is a joke at this point. Tapper is disgraced, so why give them any oxygen?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 09:44 AM (ZOv7s)

I agree - I wish we had covered the fantastic debate between Douglas Murray and Dave Smith on the Joe Rogan show recently, now THAT was worth paying attention to! (Murray wiped the floor with him, for those who didn’t keep up with it)

Douglas Murray is probably the best debater on any topic that you can find today.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 19, 2025 09:50 AM (ZEzFB)

172 130 May the Peace of the Lord be with you all.
Posted by: Ben Had at April 19, 2025 09:24 AM (yp8Vj)

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And also with you!

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at April 19, 2025 09:51 AM (kOluj)

173 I suspect they fed a lot of imagery from great artists , plus whatever they could find...and came up with an image very much like what a Raphael or Leonardo would paint.

Posted by: runner at April 19, 2025 09:51 AM (g47mK)

174 When my wife gets out of the joint, I'm getting her a Hallow subscription. One of her problems was that she was addicted to news apps and social media, and this filled her mind with negativity and doom.

I'm happy to pay a fee to push that out and substitute prayer and joy instead. Perhaps because I bought stuff from online Catholic vendors, my email gets a stead stream of newsletters and updates from Catholic media. It was annoying at first, but now I anticipate it because there's a lot of great news out there that we need to know.

I mean, Christianity is actually growing, even in Europe. We are constantly told the future is gay and trans, but it isn't, and people are speaking up ever more confidently about it. I loved that the Satanic ritual in Kansas was broken up by a Catholic who stole the Host before it could be desecrated, and than another snatched the ritual script, provoking an attack that ended the gig.

This is how it is done. No more nice.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 09:52 AM (ZOv7s)

175 Douglas Murray is probably the best debater on any topic that you can find today.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 19, 2025 09:50 AM (ZEzFB)
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Interesting. In the clips I saw, Murray came across as a snotty prick, saying that only experts' opinions count.

By his logic, Walls of Men and Long Live Death can't be taken seriously because I didn't plagiarize my way to a doctorate.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 09:54 AM (ZOv7s)

176 Greetings! So sad to hear of the passing of Jewells.
But her trials are over and now she rests in Glory with our Lord.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at April 19, 2025 09:54 AM (F3iYV)

177 Walking around Concord Mass this morning. Coppers everywhere, even in boats on the river, and they are serious looking dudes. Roads closed all over.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 19, 2025 09:56 AM (RTw1W)

178 114 Thanks, Auspex, because I had some I needed to proof for tonight and forgot it until you posted that.

(goes to find journal)
Posted by: Boron Quidquid

HA! Your'e welcome! This loaf won't be kneaded, but the girls are eager to do the 4 folds for father, son, and holy ghost, amen.

Even more eager to cut it up before baking tomorrow.

Posted by: Auspex at April 19, 2025 09:56 AM (j4U/Z)

179 Very few seem to notice that Tulsi declassified a Biden era plan called "Strategic Implementation Plan for Countering Domestic Terrorism." Sounds nice but in reality it was an Orwellian scheme targeting us. You want to see action on preserving 2A rights? You just got it.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2025 09:46 AM (viF8m)
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YES! That was huge. All these people whining about the slow release of information completely missed this.

One could do an entire series of blog posts on each section and how it uses academic jargon to basically say "Here's how we build a dictatorship."

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 09:56 AM (ZOv7s)

180 By his logic, Walls of Men and Long Live Death can't be taken seriously because I didn't plagiarize my way to a doctorate.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 09:54 AM (ZOv7s)

He doesn’t always use that argument, but he’s been in a fight of longstanding in the UK who are pretending to be neo-historians and who claim that Winston Churchill caused WW2 and Adolf Hitler was really a pretty nice guy who didn’t want war.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 19, 2025 09:58 AM (ZEzFB)

181 Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 09:52 AM (ZOv7s)

Hallow has helped change my life There is a free version i think, and i know that you can get several months free with all content using a code from several podcasts, including pints with aquinas. What a lovely gift that will make. Have blessed Holy Saturday.

Posted by: LASue at April 19, 2025 10:00 AM (lCppi)

182 Speaking of Hallow and "The Chosen," the man who plays Jesus, Jonathan Roumie, is one of the principal voices on Hallow. Although we are not Catholic, husband and I have been participating in their "Pray 40" challenge for Lent. This week's episodes have been videos filmed in the Holy Land with Jonathan and bible scholar Jeff Cavins. They visit all of the sites of Christ's passion with appropriate readings and prayers. It's very moving stuff.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at April 19, 2025 10:00 AM (FEVMW)

183 "...and Adolf Hitler was really a pretty nice guy who didn’t want war."

He was an artist! He liked to paint!

Posted by: You teenaged daughter at April 19, 2025 10:01 AM (dg+HA)

184 Maybe Weasel can do that as part of the gun thread.

Posted by: Ben Had at April 19, 2025 10:01 AM (yp8Vj)

185 Given that "We are going to have to kill them" career-limiting screed that was posted a few days back,

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at April 19, 2025 09:48 AM (a4flb)
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I'm too lazy to look this up, but how long has the anti-Tesla terrorist campaign actually lasted? When was the most recent incident?

Maybe the media dropped it, but it seems to me that once the arrests started to pile up and Bondi was announcing no deals, 20-40 years in prison, enthusiasm dropped considerably.

People respond to incentives. For too long, leftist violence has been cost-free. Now that costs are rising, I think their behavior will be modified. I'm also noticing that school shootings seem to be getting pre-emptively stopped by timely arrests, as if the FBI was now doing its job.

A lot of stuff is going to come out. Not tomorrow, not next week, but it's going to do so and this is why the left is going bonkers because they know what they did.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 10:01 AM (ZOv7s)

186 I always wondered when gubs were going to wander in and join this here prayer & coffee thread.

Come on in, kids!

•reaches down & pats Ruger PC-9 on the scope•

Can't wait to hear Weasel's recipe for morning coffee....

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at April 19, 2025 10:01 AM (kOluj)

187 Here's a quick write up but this is going to blow up bigly.

https://tinyurl.com/4j465pbp
Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2025 09:46 AM (viF8m)
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Putting Mark Levin on the Homeland Security Advisors committee the other day ensures yhat Tulsi's efforts to expose this kind of stuff (and I do not doubt there is much more to come) will get loys of 'Ol Yeller publicity

Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 19, 2025 10:02 AM (evOaE)

188 What do I have to do with any of this?

Posted by: Old Yeller at April 19, 2025 10:04 AM (dg+HA)

189 Very few seem to notice that Tulsi declassified a Biden era plan called "Strategic Implementation Plan for Countering Domestic Terrorism." Sounds nice but in reality it was an Orwellian scheme targeting us. You want to see action on preserving 2A rights? You just got it.

Here's a quick write up but this is going to blow up bigly.

https://tinyurl.com/4j465pbp
Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2025 09:46 AM (viF8

They just missed being able to call it the SIMP doctrine.

Posted by: LASue at April 19, 2025 10:04 AM (lCppi)

190 > "Strategic Implementation Plan for Countering Domestic Terrorism."
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It's title was deliberately misleading and vague for a reason. Trump and his administration are going to have to consider some measures they probably haven't thought necessary to dismantle the administrative state to the point it can't be reconstituted overnight.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 19, 2025 10:04 AM (Q4IgG)

191 Happy Easter to all of you! May the good Lord bless you and keep you close to him. Always keep the faith.

Posted by: Case at April 19, 2025 10:04 AM (OrSPY)

192 Greetings! So sad to hear of the passing of Jewells.
But her trials are over and now she rests in Glory with our Lord.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at April 19, 2025 09:54 AM (F3iYV)
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This!

Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 19, 2025 10:04 AM (evOaE)

193 >>YES! That was huge. All these people whining about the slow release of information completely missed this.

>>One could do an entire series of blog posts on each section and how it uses academic jargon to basically say "Here's how we build a dictatorship."

I've been saying this for years, rightwing conspiracy theorist that I am, but if you look at what's going on in Europe and more specifically the UK that is exactly where we were headed. The process was being developed and implemented to make the US a one party state and those of us not in the party essentially domestic terrorists. No free speech, no 2A, our views essentially being outlawed as domestic terrorism, etc.. And they were well down the road implementing it.

Illegals were an essential element to that plan just as they are in Europe. An open borders paradise ruled by a bureaucracy in league with like minded bureaucracies around the world.

The UN, the WEF, the Club of Rome, all globalist organizations have been preaching this for years. All you had to do was listen and watch. This was no ordinary election. We came this close to losing the country. Going to take a bit of time to undo all the damage.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2025 10:04 AM (viF8m)

194 145
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Roberts is running out of cards to play.'

I don't think I can agree with you here. Roberts has as many cards to play as there are federal judges willing to prostitute themselves for the democrats. He'll drag this out to Kingdom come if Trump and congress let him.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 19, 2025 10:06 AM (3wi/L)

195 "Well, Doctor, what have we got, a republic or a monarchy?"

"A republic, if you can keep it."

Posted by: runner at April 19, 2025 10:07 AM (g47mK)

196 Huck Follywood revolution in the air maybe
Did you by chance see any lanterns in the church tower last night?

Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2025 10:07 AM (ypFCm)

197 He doesn’t always use that argument, but he’s been in a fight of longstanding in the UK who are pretending to be neo-historians and who claim that Winston Churchill caused WW2 and Adolf Hitler was really a pretty nice guy who didn’t want war.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 19, 2025 09:58 AM (ZEzFB)
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Arguing from authority is an auto-fail, and no serious debater should ever invoke it. Maybe it's a British thing.

As for Hitler and Churchill, this is the consequence of making Hitler the ultimate avatar of evil and Nazi a cussword.

American conservatives have resisted this, especially the use of the Hackencreuz as a magic talisman that has to be blotted out on model kits.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 10:07 AM (ZOv7s)

198 We live in the home of the free because brave men fought against Democrats

Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 19, 2025 10:09 AM (Ehshq)

199 Arguing from ignorance is a fail. Which is what Murray encountered when he went on Rogan and went head to head with Smith.

Posted by: runner at April 19, 2025 10:10 AM (g47mK)

200 I don't think I can agree with you here. Roberts has as many cards to play as there are federal judges willing to prostitute themselves for the democrats. He'll drag this out to Kingdom come if Trump and congress let him.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 19, 2025 10:06 AM (3wi/L)
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Trump is systematically pushing the court to either accept Article II actions or force a judicial abolition of long-standing immigration law. At which point Trump will simply ignore the court and dump 4,000 pages of precedent on it to chew on.

Roberts seems to be begging Trump to tone it down, but it's not going to happen and I think when Trump brings the crates of precedent that the court is trying to overturn, Roberts will blink.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 10:10 AM (ZOv7s)

201 No, was not in Boston last night for the lanterns and the Revere ride celebration

Bet it was stirring though

Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 19, 2025 10:10 AM (Ehshq)

202 >>>I always wondered when gubs were going to wander in and join this here prayer & coffee thread.

It's an open thread thread.

Posted by: one hour sober at April 19, 2025 10:10 AM (Y1sOo)

203 Quick web-search indicates there is a parade in Concord MA commemorating the 250th anniversary of "the shot heard 'round the world".

Glad to hear the lefties haven't prevented such celebrations there, but they are likely the reason for the heightened LE presence.

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at April 19, 2025 10:11 AM (kOluj)

204 Good morning coffee and prayer people.

Imagine that Saturday after the crucifixion. There were some who heard, understood, and believed Jesus when He said He would rise again, but His trial and crucifixion left no doubt that He was not just dead, but brutally tortured to death and entombed. How desperately sad it must have been, how hard to believe even if you understood that He said He would be back. And how terribly lonely to be in a world suddenly without Him.

Those who had expected, especially on the day He rode into Jerusalem, that the day had finally come when He would become King and overthrow the Romans must have been especially crushed and despairing.

Ironic that the Jewish leaders knew well that Jesus had said he would rise again and implored Pilate to seal the tomb, and guards were set on the guards. They thought they had finally successfully rid themselves of that troublesome preacher and his fanatical followers.

The darkest of days.

Posted by: mindful webworker - the darkest hour at April 19, 2025 10:12 AM (JodDy)

205 Arguing from ignorance is a fail. Which is what Murray encountered when he went on Rogan and went head to head with Smith.
Posted by: runner at April 19, 2025 10:10 AM (g47mK)
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Then why invoke authority?

At this late post-covid date, authority is a liability, not an asset. It requires more patience, but is more effective.

Murray may have won the debate, but he disqualified himself to me as a serious person.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 10:12 AM (ZOv7s)

206 Roberts seems to be begging Trump to tone it down, but it's not going to happen and I think when Trump brings the crates of precedent that the court is trying to overturn, Roberts will blink.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 10:10 AM (ZOv7s)

Agree. Roberts wants to have his ass and eat it too. Which he will do and he will be made to smile when he does it.

Posted by: The SCROTUMS, What is it good for? at April 19, 2025 10:12 AM (R/m4+)

207 Murray was not "arguing from authority", he used facts and more facts, not "do you know who I am". Facts that were new news to the host and his co-host. So claiming that Murray was somehow pompous, just because he is smarter, more informed and came across as as such is silly.

Posted by: runner at April 19, 2025 10:13 AM (g47mK)

208 Hackencreuz The Magic Talisman was an off Broadway production that ran for only three weeks in 1939, a victim of very poor timing.

Posted by: Snooty Theater Critic at April 19, 2025 10:13 AM (dg+HA)

209 Ironic that the Jewish leaders knew well that Jesus had said he would rise again and implored Pilate to seal the tomb, and guards were set on the guards. They thought they had finally successfully rid themselves of that troublesome preacher and his fanatical followers.

The darkest of days.
Posted by: mindful webworker - the darkest hour at April 19, 2025 10:12 AM (JodDy)
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I highly recommend "Risen" because it does a great job of showing events from a skeptical Roman point of view.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 10:13 AM (ZOv7s)

210 He invited the host(s )to bring people on who had actual knowledge, proved to have actual knowledge of the subject, not just clowns who support their world view.

Posted by: runner at April 19, 2025 10:14 AM (g47mK)

211 Good morning all.
After a bunch of freeze warning nights, it's 70 degrees here this morning.
Sad news about Jewells but she fought the good fight for so long I am glad she is at peace. Is there a way for us to honor her memory? I think I remember in synagogue that we used to have a tree planted in Israel in people's memory.

Posted by: Sharon(mwillow's apprentice) at April 19, 2025 10:14 AM (t/2Uw)

212 Murray was not "arguing from authority", he used facts and more facts, not "do you know who I am". Facts that were new news to the host and his co-host. So claiming that Murray was somehow pompous, just because he is smarter, more informed and came across as as such is silly.
Posted by: runner at April 19, 2025 10:13 AM (g47mK)
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The clip that I saw was Murray saying "this is why only experts can talk about things. You're not a historian. You don't have a degree in history."

No need to include that. A serious discussion would avoid any mention of that, but it did happen.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 10:15 AM (ZOv7s)

213 183 "...and Adolf Hitler was really a pretty nice guy who didn’t want war."

He was an artist! He liked to paint!
Posted by: You teenaged daughter at April 19, 2025 10:01 AM (dg+HA)

And he loved dogs.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at April 19, 2025 10:15 AM (g8Ew8)

214 Hackencreuz The Magic Talisman was an off Broadway production that ran for only three weeks in 1939, a victim of very poor timing.
Posted by: Snooty Theater Critic at April 19, 2025 10:13 AM (dg+HA)
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I thought they were death metal band from the 90s.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 10:16 AM (ZOv7s)

215 He was an artist! He liked to paint!
Posted by: You teenaged daughter at April 19, 2025 10:01 AM (dg+HA)

And he loved dogs.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons

Und a vegetarian. Und a terrific dancer!

Posted by: Franz Liebkind at April 19, 2025 10:17 AM (G5+As)

216 Did not help that Rogan was playing semantics games nonstop (which he often does as a way to try and control the conversation..annoying as shit) , nitpicking on trivialities, and losing the substance of what was being said.

Posted by: runner at April 19, 2025 10:18 AM (g47mK)

217 https://tinyurl.com/yc2pcafd
Brandon Fisichella's video on Lexington

Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2025 10:18 AM (ypFCm)

218 Sharon, a donation to Shep's place is what she asked.

Posted by: Ben Had at April 19, 2025 10:18 AM (yp8Vj)

219 Baking birthday cake for the party tomorrow. Anyone have 136 candles?

Posted by: Franz Liebkind. at April 19, 2025 10:19 AM (G5+As)

220 > Roberts seems to be begging Trump to tone it down, but it's not going to happen and I think when Trump brings the crates of precedent that the court is trying to overturn, Roberts will blink.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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Yea, Roberts definitely wants Trump to "tone it down." SCOTUS will put a collar and leash on Trump long before Roberts will blink. Then, I think we'll see if Trump abides or not before the end of the year.

It'll be interesting. Maybe a bit scary too.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 19, 2025 10:19 AM (Q4IgG)

221 171
'Douglas Murray is probably the best debater on any topic that you can find today.'

One thing that makes him a good debater is sticking to what he knows a lot about.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 19, 2025 10:20 AM (3wi/L)

222 Julie Ann. What a pretty name.

https://tinyurl.com/5n7dzjzh

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at April 19, 2025 10:20 AM (dg+HA)

223 https://tinyurl.com/5n7dzjzh
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at April 19, 2025 10:20 AM (dg+HA)

Thanks for posting that for Julie!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar - THIS Year in Corsicana - again at April 19, 2025 10:21 AM (hOUT3)

224 Ben Had, can post/send me a link?

Posted by: Sharon(mwillow's apprentice) at April 19, 2025 10:22 AM (t/2Uw)

225 Did not help that Rogan was playing semantics games nonstop (which he often does as a way to try and control the conversation..annoying as shit) , nitpicking on trivialities, and losing the substance of what was being said.
Posted by: runner at April 19, 2025 10:18 AM (g47mK)
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Obviously, knowing the audience and participants is very important.

Didn't watch the whole thing, don't really care, my point is that Murray teed off with a very sneering lecture that a lot of people will find completely discrediting and it went viral, which is how I saw it.

For most people, Murray lost because of that tirade. An own goal.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 10:22 AM (ZOv7s)

226 Sharon, I will when I answer your email.

Posted by: Ben Had at April 19, 2025 10:23 AM (yp8Vj)

227 190
'Trump and his administration are going to have to consider some measures they probably haven't thought necessary to dismantle the administrative state to the point it can't be reconstituted overnight.'

They really are or his term will be nothing more than a stay of execution for this country.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 19, 2025 10:23 AM (3wi/L)

228 YES! That was huge. All these people whining about the slow release of information completely missed this.

One could do an entire series of blog posts on each section and how it uses academic jargon to basically say "Here's how we build a dictatorship."
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 09:56 AM (ZOv7s)

I don’t care about “releases”. We know the Biden junta was engaged in illegal censorship and harassment of conservatives.

Call me when people are actually charged.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 19, 2025 10:24 AM (l3YAf)

229 To put it another way:

The total domination you had over your opponent for 60 minutes can be completely destroyed by the two minutes when you acted like an entitled, sneering prick.

That's just the reality of modern communication.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 10:25 AM (ZOv7s)

230 Y'all have fun storming the castle. As for me, I'll keep it a little closer to home and work on rectifying an injustice that I have a tangible hope of righting. I'll let you know when it hits the news.

RIP JNG

Posted by: muldoon at April 19, 2025 10:25 AM (/iMjX)

231 197
'Arguing from authority is an auto-fail, and no serious debater should ever invoke it. Maybe it's a British thing.'

It's a leftist thing and it was a big flaw in his argument. There are ways to make the point that study has value without making it sound like the uncredentialed should have no platform.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 19, 2025 10:26 AM (3wi/L)

232 I'm too lazy to look this up, but how long has the anti-Tesla terrorist campaign actually lasted? When was the most recent incident?

Exactly One News Cycle, like every other Hair On Fire event that we have been exposed to over the decades by the enemedia.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at April 19, 2025 10:26 AM (a4flb)

233
Being opinionated, is not the same as being informed, that was his point among many others. I can say the same about writing books.

Posted by: runner at April 19, 2025 10:27 AM (g47mK)

234 I don’t care about “releases”. We know the Biden junta was engaged in illegal censorship and harassment of conservatives.

Call me when people are actually charged.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 19, 2025 10:24 AM (l3YAf)
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It has to be disclosed in order to inform the public and shape the narrative.

And, for the 1,000th time: just because nothing has happened yet does not mean nothing will happen.

There will come a point when I will lose patience, but 90 days into his term is not that point.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 10:27 AM (ZOv7s)

235 Sad news about Jewells but she fought the good fight for so long I am glad she is at peace. Is there a way for us to honor her memory? I think I remember in synagogue that we used to have a tree planted in Israel in people's memory.

You can donate to the dog rescue at which she volunteered. They are in the middle of a fund raising drive for new facility.

https://www.shepsplace.org/donate/

Mention "Jewells" or "Julie" in the memo.

Posted by: Oddbob at April 19, 2025 10:28 AM (/y8xj)

236 Murray mainly went on Rogan's show because there is a lot of pro-Hamas anti Israel BS that is being bandied about from people like Smith.

Posted by: runner at April 19, 2025 10:28 AM (g47mK)

237 On a personal note, have had two follow-ups with my cataract surgeon and clean bill of health. Going to be on eye drops for 3 more weeks and then see the Optometrist on whether I will need reading glasses for really close up. But it is a pretty miraculous change and I can't thank enough all of you who gave advice and support.
It is why I love this place.

Posted by: Sharon(mwillow's apprentice) at April 19, 2025 10:29 AM (t/2Uw)

238 200
'I think when Trump brings the crates of precedent that the court is trying to overturn, Roberts will blink.'

I agree that counting on Roberts being a chickenshit is a good strategy but only if there is a price to be paid for his continued malfeasance. Up until now there hasn't been.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 19, 2025 10:29 AM (3wi/L)

239 It's a leftist thing and it was a big flaw in his argument. There are ways to make the point that study has value without making it sound like the uncredentialed should have no platform.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 19, 2025 10:26 AM (3wi/L)
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Was he arguing with an American?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 10:30 AM (ZOv7s)

240 Murray did a follow-up in the NY post under the title of "Douglas Murray: So-called Israel-Hamas, Ukraine war ‘experts’ spew false info on Joe Rogan’s podcast — There has to be a standard."

https://tinyurl.com/536as7mm

He wins every time.

Posted by: runner at April 19, 2025 10:30 AM (g47mK)

241 It's a leftist thing and it was a big flaw in his argument. There are ways to make the point that study has value without making it sound like the uncredentialed should have no platform.

Didn't the author of "Black Swan", Nicholas Taleb, write a book on this topic "Fooled By Randomness: The Hidden Role of Choice in Life and in the Markets" where he critiques the tendency to trust experts blindly in fields where uncertainty and randomness play significant roles. Experts fail to account for the unpredictable nature of events and often provide explanations only after the fact.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at April 19, 2025 10:30 AM (a4flb)

242 > I don’t care about “releases”. We know the Biden junta was engaged in illegal censorship and harassment of conservatives.
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If the releases are to sway public opinion, demonstrate that there are real criminal activities afoot that's one thing. I understand it. If this is the "end result" and there are no further actions then, yea, major fail.

I mean you can't show how corrupt and illegal the previous administration was and then just walk away and shrug it off as "nothing more we can do."

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 19, 2025 10:30 AM (Q4IgG)

243 Rosie O’Donnell Fears Her Irish Citizenship Application May Be In Jeopardy

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I guess the Irish don't want fat, ugly, stupid people.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 19, 2025 10:31 AM (L/fGl)

244 Morning Horde.
Prayers up for all asking and for those needing but not asking.

Holy Saturday, for me, is a day of mourning. Five years ago during the plandemic (April 11) my dad passed. Alone and unvisited in a VA "hospital".
I will never forgive.

Posted by: Reforger at April 19, 2025 10:31 AM (xcIvR)

245 Thanks Oddbob.

Posted by: Sharon(mwillow's apprentice) at April 19, 2025 10:31 AM (t/2Uw)

246 Fat, ugly, stupid and Irish is no way to go through life, young lady.

Posted by: Dean Wormer at April 19, 2025 10:34 AM (dg+HA)

247 243
'I guess the Irish don't want fat, ugly, stupid people.'

Should Ireland really draw that line?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 19, 2025 10:34 AM (3wi/L)

248 I agree that counting on Roberts being a chickenshit is a good strategy but only if there is a price to be paid for his continued malfeasance. Up until now there hasn't been.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 19, 2025 10:29 AM (3wi/L)
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The price is already building, which is that the federal dockets are clogged with meaningless cases and all of these TROs - which are supposed to be used rarely when the case is almost certain to succeed on the merits - are totally discrediting the judicial system.

You can't play the "OMG Trump violated the Constitution! It's a crisis!" card when it happens every day and then is always rolled back. Getting TROs vacated by higher courts is a terrible, terrible look. Roberts' strategy was clearly to let these things fall without SCOTUS, and to quietly tell the judges to drop it, but they won't listen.

And the ultimate price is that Trump will - at a time and place of his choosing - find a ruling so stupid, so completely at odds with historical precedent and the Constitution itself - that he will defy SCOTUS and massive majorities will cheer it.

The Judiciary relies on the Executive to make its rulings stick. Roberts is playing with fire.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 10:34 AM (ZOv7s)

249 And how terribly lonely to be in a world suddenly without Him.

The Scriptures say that they went back to the former careers, in the case of most of them: fishing.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at April 19, 2025 10:34 AM (a4flb)

250 Morning again, all,

Been to the grocery, cleaned up the seats and glass on the car, and then I've detailed me. Miss Linda should be here in about forty minutes, and I'll drop her by the uptown store that is having their annual Earf Day sale. It doesn't start until eleven -- insane in this climate at this time of year. Esp. since they hold the thing *outdoors* on the sidewalk -- and are on the hot, sunlit side of the street. I'll have to find someplace indoors to wait it out.

She wants a flavored coffee for Easter, so on the way home we'll stop at World Market for that. *Blueberry* or "strawberry* coffee? Can you say "yuck"? I knew you could.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 19, 2025 10:35 AM (omVj0)

251 I praise GOD for healing, comforting, and blessing our brothers and sisters here. He is always with us even if we are too stressed to feel his presence. To those interested I have a personal hallelujah. I have so many new doctor friends I don't know what to do. But merciful Lord, they seem to know what they are doing. My target date for back at work is 7 May.

Posted by: Eromero at April 19, 2025 10:35 AM (LHPAg)

252 One thing at least done quickly by the DOJ is arrest a few, mostly Trannies for terrorism with Tesla attacks. Maybe that does work to squash that

Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2025 10:36 AM (ypFCm)

253 Sounds like Putin order an Easter ceasefire.

Posted by: runner at April 19, 2025 10:36 AM (g47mK)

254
The only affinity anyone I know has for their college alma mater is for their sports teams, as faculty and administration uniformly hate alumni and America.

But since the players cannot be considered actual students anymore that's slipping away as well, and with the "portal" allows the spoiled children to skip from school to school, allegiance is all but gone.

Long way of saying we're giving up MSU season tickets for football this year, ending a 50 year tradition.

Posted by: Auspex at April 19, 2025 10:36 AM (j4U/Z)

255 Rosie O’Donnell Fears Her Irish Citizenship Application May Be In Jeopardy

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Citizenship in the Balance - a limerick

Poor Rosie O'Donnell is in tears
Over Irish immigration fears
But when the matter has been weighed
All her fears will be allayed
Because her weight has been Dublin for years!

Posted by: muldoon at April 19, 2025 10:37 AM (/iMjX)

256 ..with an order to be ready for "provocations" from Ukrainian side So there you go.

Posted by: runner at April 19, 2025 10:38 AM (g47mK)

257 Thanks, Oddbob, for the info about Shep's Place. I donated.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at April 19, 2025 10:38 AM (FEVMW)

258 That is BFD is you ask me.

Posted by: runner at April 19, 2025 10:38 AM (g47mK)

259 I praise GOD for healing, comforting, and blessing our brothers and sisters here. He is always with us even if we are too stressed to feel his presence. To those interested I have a personal hallelujah. I have so many new doctor friends I don't know what to do. But merciful Lord, they seem to know what they are doing. My target date for back at work is 7 May.
Posted by: Eromero at April 19, 2025 10:35 AM (LHPAg)
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Amen!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 10:38 AM (ZOv7s)

260 248
'Roberts' strategy was clearly to let these things fall without SCOTUS, and to quietly tell the judges to drop it, but they won't listen.'

Everything we've seen from Roberts is that he will put his thumb on the left side of the scale whenever he can, especially if it hurts Trump.
What evidence would you need to see to conclude he is colluding with the leftist judges?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 19, 2025 10:38 AM (3wi/L)

261 with an order to be ready for "provocations" from Ukrainian side So there you go.
Posted by: runner at April 19, 2025 10:38 AM (g47mK)
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Solid move, both spiritually and politically.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 10:39 AM (ZOv7s)

262 >>I mean you can't show how corrupt and illegal the previous administration was and then just walk away and shrug it off as "nothing more we can do."

Did you see the wave of media coverage when DC US Attorney Ed Martin "requested" and interview with former Mueller Deputy Special Counsel over false statements he made during the Russia collusion hoax?

Nobody else did either. But it happened. Making false statements to a court is a felony.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2025 10:39 AM (viF8m)

263 Good news, everyone!

Maine AG: “There Are No Concerns of Safety” by Letting Trans Athletes Play in Girls’ Sports

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 19, 2025 10:40 AM (L/fGl)

264 Muldoon knocks one out of the park!

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at April 19, 2025 10:40 AM (dg+HA)

265 Good morning dear morons with thanks to annie, mh, and you horde for your prayers

Just woke up. Again.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 19, 2025 10:40 AM (RIvkX)

266 Blessings to all the Horde on this Holy Saturday and prayers for all in need, especially Mrs. Salty and Teresa in Ft. Worth and Jim SND.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at April 19, 2025 10:41 AM (0nHVk)

267 Posted by: muldoon at April 19, 2025 10:37 AM

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Brilliant!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 19, 2025 10:41 AM (L/fGl)

268 So we lost Jewells just this past week? All I know is that she's listed among Absent Friends.

R.I.P., lady. You will be missed.

Posted by: Weak Geek at April 19, 2025 10:42 AM (p/isN)

269 Trump was sort of moving everyone toward the 4/20 ceasefire.

Posted by: runner at April 19, 2025 10:42 AM (g47mK)

270 Heart back in rhythm, but now more time needed for stabilization.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 19, 2025 07:41 AM (u82oZ)
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A prayer for complete and speedy healing.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 19, 2025 10:43 AM (RIvkX)

271 Everything we've seen from Roberts is that he will put his thumb on the left side of the scale whenever he can, especially if it hurts Trump.
What evidence would you need to see to conclude he is colluding with the leftist judges?
Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 19, 2025 10:38 AM (3wi/L)

I think Roberts is clawing at the quicksand he's put himself in. I wouldn't be surprised but to hear of his retirement in the next year or so. It'll be the only way out for him.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at April 19, 2025 10:43 AM (g8Ew8)

272 Which 'Better Buzz' store was that picture taken in?

Posted by: You're in hell, the world ended at April 19, 2025 10:44 AM (YVIcs)

273 Muldoon you crack me up

Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2025 10:44 AM (ypFCm)

274 "...moving everyone toward the 4/20 ceasefire."

Duuuuude!

Posted by: Stoner living in his parent's basement at April 19, 2025 10:44 AM (dg+HA)

275 Everything we've seen from Roberts is that he will put his thumb on the left side of the scale whenever he can, especially if it hurts Trump.
What evidence would you need to see to conclude he is colluding with the leftist judges?
Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 19, 2025 10:38 AM (3wi/L)
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It's one of those things that is ultimately irrelevant. You don't need to talk to have each other's back. If you're friends, you know what he's going to do without lots of text chats.

I'm not really worried about it because larger forces are at work.

That was always the problem with this strategy. It assumed Trump would immediately get frustrated and create a crisis, but he's patiently chipping away at it. The "walls closing in" are made of paper mache and everyone knows it. In the meantime, the border is secure and deportations continue.

The threat of ruinous fines, loss of property, and now raids on businesses who also face severe penalties are having their effect as well.

To put it another way, the entire judiciary strove mighty to save Maryland Man, and all it got was a margarita photo op.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 10:44 AM (ZOv7s)

276 254
'Long way of saying we're giving up MSU season tickets for football this year, ending a 50 year tradition.'

Congratulations on your liberation from sportsball.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 19, 2025 10:44 AM (3wi/L)

277 49 A scotsman in Texas IIRC. Fantastic four minute section out of a larger sermon.

He's in a suburb of Cleveland. He's a marvelous pastor, sadly to retire this June after 40-some odd years at that church. He has a radio ministry I listen to most nights.
Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at April 19, 2025 08:35 AM (SfhV1)
I listen every Sunday morning on my way to church.

Posted by: Eromero at April 19, 2025 10:45 AM (LHPAg)

278 Because her weight has been Dublin for years!
Posted by: muldoon

Groooaaannn. 🙄😄 That's our Muldoon!

MiladyJo says, if Rosie doesn't get her Irish citizenship, it will doubtless all be Donald Trump's fault. Somehow.

Looking forward to hearing about your "Big event coming mid-week."

Posted by: mindful webworker - weighting for change at April 19, 2025 10:46 AM (JodDy)

279 Harvard Professors Try Blocking Audit Into Billions in Government Grants

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Hell, that's not suspicious at all.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 19, 2025 10:47 AM (L/fGl)

280 'Long way of saying we're giving up MSU season tickets for football this year, ending a 50 year tradition.'

Congratulations on your liberation from sportsball.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 19, 2025 10:44 AM (3wi/L)
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Which MSU is that?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 10:47 AM (ZOv7s)

281 Bill Maher had a segment last night talking about manufacturing jobs in the US. Basically the premise was if all these factories open here who will do the work? GenZ? It was kinda funny and also a hint of truth to it. Like will the tide pod generation really apply to work on an assembly line making electronics? These kids can barely tie their own shoes. And of course the meme about not knowing how to change a tire. They’d be kinda useless doing any manual work.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 19, 2025 10:48 AM (DKKgv)

282

LOL - he is never coming back

https://tinyurl.com/46xpmnt2

Posted by: runner at April 19, 2025 10:49 AM (g47mK)

283 Hell, that's not suspicious at all.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 19, 2025 10:47 AM (L/fGl)
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This is what I mean. The left is so fat happy lazy and stupid that they don't realize how vulnerable they are to even the tiniest ray of sunlight.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 10:49 AM (ZOv7s)

284 Do keep seeing articles Roberts BFF is one of the Leftists oligarchs pushing the limits

Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2025 10:51 AM (ypFCm)

285 Here is one of the few articles about DC US Attorney Martin beginning the investigation of former Mueller aide Aaron Zelinsky. Nice name.

https://tinyurl.com/46jthfw5

Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2025 10:51 AM (viF8m)

286 281
' These kids can barely tie their own shoes. And of course the meme about not knowing how to change a tire. '

Pull any financial assistance and you'll be amazed what they can be forced to learn. Survival isn't an optional decision.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 19, 2025 10:52 AM (3wi/L)

287 we're giving up MSU season tickets for football this year, ending a 50 year tradition.'

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Why not keep and resell for profit?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 19, 2025 10:52 AM (DKKgv)

288
Pull any financial assistance and you'll be amazed what they can be forced to learn. Survival isn't an optional decision.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 19, 2025 10:52 AM (3wi/L)

That’s was mentioned in the bit. 50% of adults 18-30 receive money from their parents. With an average of $1500 a month. Will mom and dad take that away and force Brooklyn or Aidan to get a job at the electronics factory? Probably not.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 19, 2025 10:54 AM (DKKgv)

289 Bill Maher had a segment last night talking about manufacturing jobs in the US. Basically the premise was if all these factories open here who will do the work? GenZ? It was kinda funny and also a hint of truth to it. Like will the tide pod generation really apply to work on an assembly line making electronics? These kids can barely tie their own shoes. And of course the meme about not knowing how to change a tire. They’d be kinda useless doing any manual work.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 19, 2025 10:48 AM (DKKgv)

It's amazing what people become willing to do when they get hungry or cold enough. Mommy and daddy ain't gonna live forever so that sort of life support will start fading away.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at April 19, 2025 10:54 AM (g8Ew8)

290 >>> >>I mean you can't show how corrupt and illegal the previous administration was and then just walk away and shrug it off as "nothing more we can do."

Did you see the wave of media coverage when DC US Attorney Ed Martin "requested" and interview with former Mueller Deputy Special Counsel over false statements he made during the Russia collusion hoax?

Nobody else did either. But it happened. Making false statements to a court is a felony.
Posted by: JackStraw
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I heard about it, but, yea, no media coverage and I didn't follow up. Thought it "was something."

My point earlier about walking away was that the administration can't just produce evidence and sway public opinion... then stop. I don't think they've done that. I also think they could, if they wanted, move quicker. DoJ has a raft of lawyers... maybe use them? It's obviously not all on Bondi.

And yea, I realize some of those lawyers are shit weasels. But you have to start leveling charges at some point or all the posturing is for nothing.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 19, 2025 10:54 AM (Q4IgG)

291 From your fingertips to God's laptop.

Jared Whitly: America First Republicans Can Undo Biden Damage

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 19, 2025 10:54 AM (L/fGl)

292 284
'Do keep seeing articles Roberts BFF is one of the Leftists oligarchs pushing the limits'

Time for a DOJ investigation. If they're not too busy.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 19, 2025 10:54 AM (3wi/L)

293 >>Long way of saying we're giving up MSU season tickets for football this year, ending a 50 year tradition

Good move. You you can watch mediocre football on TV without the championship level price.

Posted by: one hour sober at April 19, 2025 10:54 AM (Y1sOo)

294 >>Do keep seeing articles Roberts BFF is one of the Leftists oligarchs pushing the limits

If you are on X, follow Mike Benz. Among other things he has been exposing Roberts working with Norm Eisen on things like establishing global law norms.

Yea, that Norm Eisen.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2025 10:54 AM (viF8m)

295 Murray was not appealing to authority and did not claim to be a superior authority.

But he was debating a person does not have a command of the facts and who cannot or would not integrate new information.

New information was discarded casually if it did not fit the pre-determined narrative. Dave Smith argues from assertion not from facts.

Dave Smith has not done his due diligence yet demands his opinions carry the same weight as those who have.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 19, 2025 10:55 AM (RIvkX)

296 To put it another way, the entire judiciary strove mighty to save Maryland Man, and all it got was a margarita photo op.

Because of "Maryland Man", I will forever consider anyone from that area to be a gangbanger or terrorist.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at April 19, 2025 10:56 AM (a4flb)

297 Roberts OKed Obamacare. That in and of itself is all the proof you need that he’s a leftist piece of shit.

Thanks Dubya.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 19, 2025 10:56 AM (DKKgv)

298 Lary Arnn of Hillsdale points out that Harvard had 40% of its annual operating budget paid for by the Federal government. When one donor does that much, they own you. If Harvard is serious about keeping government out of their business, it will wean itself as Hillsdale has. Then, Harvard won't have to care what the President wants.

But, until then, he who pays the piper calls the tune.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 19, 2025 10:57 AM (cnRzT)

299 hese kids can barely tie their own shoes.

********

Out of the Hole, Around the Tree, Back Down the Hole

Hey Boomer, don't you worry don't you fret
Our GenZ ain't a total failure yet
If you didn't get the news
When we need to tie our shoes
We only have to search it on the 'Net!

Posted by: muldoon at April 19, 2025 10:58 AM (/iMjX)

300 It's amazing what people become willing to do when they get hungry or cold enough. Mommy and daddy ain't gonna live forever so that sort of life support will start fading away.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at April 19, 2025 10:54 AM (g8Ew

GenZ is teenagers to late 20s. Their parents are in their 40s and 50s. The parents are gonna be around for a while.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 19, 2025 10:59 AM (DKKgv)

301 Here is something interesting, Rogan did want Murray to come on the show, unless Smith was there. He needed a minder.

Posted by: runner at April 19, 2025 11:00 AM (g47mK)

302 295
'
Dave Smith has not done his due diligence yet demands his opinions carry the same weight as those who have.'

I saw enough of it to agree with you. Smith had nothing but 'dead Gazan children' as his argument.

However, Murray needed to consider the Rogan audience. Many of them are self educated. If they think you're telling them, 'I'm right and you're wrong because I went to college and you didn't' you'll lose them.

And the suspicion of the credentialed class has never been higher.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 19, 2025 11:00 AM (3wi/L)

303 >>My point earlier about walking away was that the administration can't just produce evidence and sway public opinion... then stop. I don't think they've done that. I also think they could, if they wanted, move quicker. DoJ has a raft of lawyers... maybe use them? It's obviously not all on Bondi.

Well the letter Martin sent was only a couple of days ago. And Martin hasn't even been officially confirmed yet. Democrats are holding up the hearing. That's part of the problem.

As noted above by AH a DOJ lawyer helped start this immigration legal fiasco by essentially throwing the case in court. He was later fired. When Bondi was confirmed she didn't get a DOJ full of rock ribbed conservative prosecutors along with her. She has to gut the place and get new people the jobs. Same with Patel. The FBI was not just one or two bad actors. It was loaded with them.

Today is day 89 since Trump was sworn in. Bondi and Patel came weeks after that. Give them a bit of time.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2025 11:00 AM (viF8m)

304 Bill Maher had a segment last night talking about manufacturing jobs in the US. Basically the premise was if all these factories open here who will do the work? GenZ? It was kinda funny and also a hint of truth to it. Like will the tide pod generation really apply to work on an assembly line making electronics? These kids can barely tie their own shoes. And of course the meme about not knowing how to change a tire. They’d be kinda useless doing any manual work.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 19, 2025 10:48 AM (DKKgv)
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Having never set foot in a factory how does Maher presume to understand how staffing works or how much human labor is required?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 19, 2025 11:01 AM (cnRzT)

305 Today is day 89 since Trump was sworn in.

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That’s wild. Feels like at least a year.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 19, 2025 11:01 AM (DKKgv)

306 That’s was mentioned in the bit. 50% of adults 18-30 receive money from their parents. With an average of $1500 a month. Will mom and dad take that away and force Brooklyn or Aidan to get a job at the electronics factory? Probably not.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 19, 2025 10:54 AM (DKKgv)
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How much of that was by choice? The job market was a wreck under Biden, with almost all the new jobs going to foreigners. That is now changing.

And the electronics factory question was moot, because there were so few factories. People grow up and parents get tired of subsidies.

Oh, and the upper class kids are not who these jobs are for, they are for the despairing lower classes who now have a reason to not do drugs and kill themselves.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 11:02 AM (ZOv7s)

307 281 Bill Maher had a segment last night talking about manufacturing jobs in the US. Basically the premise was if all these factories open here who will do the work? GenZ? It was kinda funny and also a hint of truth to it. Like will the tide pod generation really apply to work on an assembly line making electronics? These kids can barely tie their own shoes. And of course the meme about not knowing how to change a tire. They’d be kinda useless doing any manual work.

I agree that most Gen Zers won't want to do assembly line stuff. Most Chinese don't want to either. It's going to come down to a race between our decoupling from China and the implementation of robots that can do everything a human can, but better.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 19, 2025 11:02 AM (s8j++)

308 Murray was not appealing to authority and did not claim to be a superior authority.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 19, 2025 10:55 AM (RIvkX)

You're right, he just claimed two Americans shouldn't be talking about things, when they aren't experts.

He also went off on Smith's use of the word "we."

But he does it in his fancy British accent, so he wins.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2025 11:02 AM (053ci)

309 I don't know how to break this to you but all young kids are not living a middle class existence with their folks. There are poor kids out there struggling that could use an entry level job. We also have adults working two and three jobs. Maybe they would like something more secure.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at April 19, 2025 11:04 AM (cvWHI)

310 Having never set foot in a factory how does Maher presume to understand how staffing works or how much human labor is required?
Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 19, 2025 11:01 AM (cnRzT)

It was a comedic bit. Maher is - wait for it - a comedian. Obviously he doesn’t proclaim to be an expert in staffing. Just like when Jerry Seinfeld made jokes about airline food. He didn’t spend time investigating how airline food procurement works. It was funny though because everyone could relate to the joke which was based in truth.

I said initially there is a hint of truth to it, as with all comedy.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 19, 2025 11:04 AM (DKKgv)

311 >> When Bondi was confirmed she didn't get a DOJ full of rock ribbed conservative prosecutors along with her. She has to gut the place and get new people the jobs. Same with Patel. The FBI was not just one or two bad actors. It was loaded with them.

Today is day 89 since Trump was sworn in. Bondi and Patel came weeks after that. Give them a bit of time.
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I did mention those "shit weasel" lawyers. It might be that they'll never be exposed until they have to be utilized. The one who threw the Garcia case originally, claiming a mistake, won't be the last.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 19, 2025 11:06 AM (Q4IgG)

312 279 Harvard Professors Try Blocking Audit Into Billions in Government Grants.

I didn't get a "harrumph" out of that guy!

Posted by: Governor Lepetomane at April 19, 2025 11:06 AM (dg+HA)

313 I saw enough of it to agree with you. Smith had nothing but 'dead Gazan children' as his argument.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 19, 2025 11:00 AM (3wi/L)

He does hours of podcasts, and many different topics. What happened on Rogan's show was not very indicative of the breadth of Smith's knowledge, in large part because Murray wasn't interested in arguing over facts.

He wanted to argue over who should be talking about facts.

Anyone who came to that event not knowing what Smith's positions are, didn't really gain anything.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2025 11:06 AM (053ci)

314 304
'how does Maher presume to understand how staffing works or how much human labor is required?'

Maher is a 65 year old version of the Gen Z he's describing. Maybe that is his knowledge source.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 19, 2025 11:06 AM (3wi/L)

315 Not everyone shouting from a soapbox is an expert.
Spewing nonsense that is false, is also "an opinion", just don't whine when you are caught.

Posted by: runner at April 19, 2025 11:06 AM (g47mK)

316 YouTube How to tie your shoes

2.4 million views

www.youtube.com/watch?v=q44kByZmKDs

Posted by: muldoon at April 19, 2025 11:07 AM (/iMjX)

317 Putin declares 'Easter truce' in Ukraine

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 19, 2025 11:07 AM (L/fGl)

318 I don't know how to break this to you but all young kids are not living a middle class existence with their folks. There are poor kids out there struggling that could use an entry level job. We also have adults working two and three jobs. Maybe they would like something more secure.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at April 19, 2025 11:04 AM (cvWHI)
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Gretchen Whitmer actually had to support Trump because the auto industry still has huge influence in Michigan. The UAW has been a sink of Dem corruption from its beginning, but now the leadership is going to be forced to change sides.

So will the Teamsters. Trump is bringing them jobs, the jobs they lost are coming back, and all the Dems have to offer is trannies and crying for illegals.

This is a seismic shift. Michigan could very realistically go solid red as the factories take on extra shifts.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 11:07 AM (ZOv7s)

319 I agree that most Gen Zers won't want to do assembly line stuff. Most Chinese don't want to either.
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The Chinese in the sweatshops have no other options though.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 19, 2025 11:08 AM (DKKgv)

320 It's like machinists. Folks don't realize it's mostly CNC machines, which require the machinist be able to program them. This whole argument also ignores all the illegals currently in this country. They won't go away immediately. If this was a real issue, they would be creating guest worker programs, to get people here legally.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at April 19, 2025 11:08 AM (cvWHI)

321 Lord hear our prayers.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * poorly trained emotional support moron at April 19, 2025 11:08 AM (hhuMF)

322 Rogan came up during COVID He had a platform and allowed "non-sanctioned" voices to be heard. But now he is branching out. And getting defensive when he or his guests) are caught in lies, and then are told to do a little more research. Don't start none.

Posted by: runner at April 19, 2025 11:09 AM (g47mK)

323 What's interesting about this week is that people who absolutely refuse to question what Israel is doing, are very angry that people like Dave Smith exist.

They'd rather he be silenced.

I think it's rather obvious there are problems with the "support Israel no matter what" position, and anything that strikes against it are met with anger and derision, not logic and reason.

In other words, it's a very left-oriented perspective. The kind that many people on this very webzine ridicule.

Except when it comes to Israel.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2025 11:09 AM (053ci)

324 Right now Chinese slave labor is cheaper than robots. If the choice was between robots and American labor the robots might end up being the cheaper option.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 19, 2025 11:10 AM (DKKgv)

325 It's not too early to be thinking about Christmas presents.

https://shorturl.at/Z3dUy

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 19, 2025 11:11 AM (L/fGl)

326 "There should be a price to pay for spreading bullshit.."

Posted by: runner at April 19, 2025 11:11 AM (g47mK)

327 In other words, it's a very left-oriented perspective. The kind that many people on this very webzine ridicule.

Except when it comes to Israel.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2025 11:09 AM (053ci)

Shut your filthy whore mouth!!
- Ben Shapiro

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 19, 2025 11:11 AM (DKKgv)

328 I said initially there is a hint of truth to it, as with all comedy.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 19, 2025 11:04 AM (DKKgv)
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I think what people are objecting to is that the jokes always go in the same direction, informed by liberal arrogance.

Why are the kids so incapable, Bill? Oh yeah, you liberals have destroyed public education. Hah! Hah!

So the kids who somehow manage to avoid sexual assault by one of their teachers or being stabbed by a classmate with a history of violence but who can't be expelled because of skin color end up not ready for the world.

I mean it's funny, but only in the darkest sort of way.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 11:11 AM (ZOv7s)

329 313
'What happened on Rogan's show was not very indicative of the breadth of Smith's knowledge'

Smith didn't mention that the reason those Gazan children dies was because Hamas wanted them to for propaganda value. He's one of those for whom the conflict began on Oct.8.

I'm not sure what knowledge he could supply to climb out of that hole but I'll try to stay open minded.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 19, 2025 11:12 AM (3wi/L)

330 Smith spreads bullshit, got caught, got defensive. As all people of his ilk are.

Posted by: runner at April 19, 2025 11:12 AM (g47mK)

331 Having never set foot in a factory how does Maher presume to understand how staffing works or how much human labor is required?

********

By the same token, how do you know that Bill Maher has never set foot in a factory?

Posted by: muldoon at April 19, 2025 11:12 AM (/iMjX)

332 Shut your filthy whore mouth!!
- Ben Shapiro
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 19, 2025 11:11 AM (DKKgv)

The funny thing is, Shapiro generally comes prepared. He has an argument, and he doesn't shy aware from the fact that he's completely biased.

I'm not sure he's ever really debated anyone who disagrees with his perspective, but at least he comes prepared with his version of the facts.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2025 11:13 AM (053ci)

333 318
'Michigan could very realistically go solid red as the factories take on extra shifts.'

Unfortunately, the inside of the trunk full of ballots will be solid blue.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 19, 2025 11:14 AM (3wi/L)

334 Shut your filthy whore mouth!!
- Ben Shapiro
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 19, 2025 11:11 AM (DKKgv)
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The absolute fealty to Israel is off-putting. For the record, I'll buy into stories of Israel targeting the civilians as soon as someone can produce a uniform and rank insignia guide for Hamas. How do I tell a colonel from a corporal?

Oh, that's right, they look like everyone else. So there are no civilians. Cool.

On the flip side, Israel is a secular state, not the successor to the ancient kingdom. That's not me talking, that's them. Legitimate criticism is therefore on the table.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 11:15 AM (ZOv7s)

335 Smith didn't mention that the reason those Gazan children dies was because Hamas wanted them to for propaganda value. He's one of those for whom the conflict began on Oct.8.

I'm not sure what knowledge he could supply to climb out of that hole but I'll try to stay open minded.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 19, 2025 11:12 AM (3wi/L)

See, that's just factually wrong. Dave and others believe the conflict started a few thousand years ago. Then it intensified in the late 19th/early 20th century. Then all through the 20th century.

And will argue against those who want to start on Oct. 7.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2025 11:15 AM (053ci)

336 Unfortunately, the inside of the trunk full of ballots will be solid blue.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 19, 2025 11:14 AM (3wi/L)
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That's getting a lot of scrutiny, and it is worth noting that Trump was able to win and the House flipped to the GOP.

The operational environment for cheaters has changed.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 11:16 AM (ZOv7s)

337 30 years since the OK.City bombing.
I'll try to get to the book thread with this but for today's anniversary, I recommend a great book called The Third Terrorist by Jayna Davis.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 19, 2025 11:16 AM (W/lyH)

338 think what people are objecting to is that the jokes always go in the same direction, informed by liberal arrogance.

Why are the kids so incapable, Bill? Oh yeah, you liberals have destroyed public education. Hah! Hah!

So the kids who somehow manage to avoid sexual assault by one of their teachers or being stabbed by a classmate with a history of violence but who can't be expelled because of skin color end up not ready for the world.

I mean it's funny, but only in the darkest sort of way.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author

It’s also a mass generalization. Obviously not everyone in a generation is the same. Plenty of GenZ knows how to change a tire. But in general those memes and stereotypes are kinda true. And whatever the cause was, we can’t go back I time and change it. We are where we are for better or worse.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 19, 2025 11:16 AM (DKKgv)

339 The absolute fealty to Israel is off-putting. For the record, I'll buy into stories of Israel targeting the civilians as soon as someone can produce a uniform and rank insignia guide for Hamas. How do I tell a colonel from a corporal?

Oh, that's right, they look like everyone else. So there are no civilians. Cool.

On the flip side, Israel is a secular state, not the successor to the ancient kingdom. That's not me talking, that's them. Legitimate criticism is therefore on the table.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 11:15 AM (ZOv7s)

Generally, no one has argued realistically against Israel's attempt to destroy Hamas. It's not working, but no one says they shouldn't try.

The problem is their official position on killing civilians when Hamas is around them. That's it. That's the extent of it. The belief that intentionally killing civilians to get at Hamas is a war crime.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2025 11:18 AM (053ci)

340 335
'See, that's just factually wrong.'

I don't think I'm wrong about his perspective but that requires me to read minds. So. I'll spot you that one.

Now do the hard one. Show me where this is wrong.

'Smith didn't mention that the reason those Gazan children died was because Hamas wanted them to for propaganda value.'

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 19, 2025 11:20 AM (3wi/L)

341 Pull any financial assistance and you'll be amazed what they can be forced to learn. Survival isn't an optional decision.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 19, 2025 10:52 AM (3wi/L)

Two of my sorority roommates were on scholarships/financial aid, which required them to maintain a 3.2 gpa. They both made that with room to spare, and never worried about missing out on fun when studying was required. It was a good real-world lesson in incentives.

Posted by: LASue at April 19, 2025 11:20 AM (lCppi)

342
Having worked with factory workers, but not being one myself while doing so, such jobs indeed were repetitive and too often boring, but at the time (forty years ago) they were an outstanding opportunity for members of a workforce that typically had stopped going to school after completing high school.

I know circumstances today have made such work less available and quite possibly more onerous.

My dentist in Waynesboro, VA once asked me about hiring on with the Lycra(TM) spandex business there. After a question or two, she informed me that she was interested in becoming an operator on the spinning room floor, and not someone in line or technical support. I was flabbergasted and I told her that she really ought to think things through before taking such a drastic step.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 19, 2025 11:21 AM (Tv15w)

343 337 30 years since the OK.City bombing.
I'll try to get to the book thread with this but for today's anniversary, I recommend a great book called The Third Terrorist by Jayna Davis.
Posted by: Diogenes at April 19, 2025 11:16 AM (W/lyH)
36 years ago USS Iowa gun mount explosion. Big Navy screwup.

Posted by: Eromero at April 19, 2025 11:21 AM (LHPAg)

344 On the flip side, Israel is a secular state, not the successor to the ancient kingdom. That's not me talking, that's them. Legitimate criticism is therefore on the table.

And there was no rapture in 1988 (40 years after the incorporation of the secular Israel state), so apparently no Divine Mandate for the existence of this secular State.

It exists, just like any other nation exists (with the exception of a LOT of Western money, British Mandate, and special care)

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at April 19, 2025 11:21 AM (a4flb)

345 DeMS-13.

https://shorturl.at/KLukb

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 19, 2025 11:21 AM (L/fGl)

346 Don't look now, but we have noodage.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at April 19, 2025 11:21 AM (dg+HA)

347 337
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The operational environment for cheaters has changed.'

No completely. Aren't all state level executive offices in MI blue right now?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 19, 2025 11:21 AM (3wi/L)

348 Get ready to hear more about Schedule F.

https://tinyurl.com/4psma7jt

Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2025 11:22 AM (viF8m)

349 It's not too early to be thinking about Christmas presents.

https://shorturl.at/Z3dUy
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 19, 2025 11:11 AM (L/fGl)

Whoever thought of those is making a fortune.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 19, 2025 11:23 AM (W/lyH)

350 'Smith didn't mention that the reason those Gazan children died was because Hamas wanted them to for propaganda value.'
Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 19, 2025 11:20 AM (3wi/L)

Doesn't that require mind reading?

The official Israeli policy is that they will intentionally kill civilians (I believe there is a formula, but I can't remember what it is) to get at Hamas.

Whether Hamas intentionally hides behind children or not, I don't know. I just know plenty of children are getting killed.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2025 11:23 AM (053ci)

351 320 It's like machinists. Folks don't realize it's mostly CNC machines, which require the machinist be able to program them. This whole argument also ignores all the illegals currently in this country. They won't go away immediately. If this was a real issue, they would be creating guest worker programs, to get people here legally.

I saw an interesting video about Foxconn moving all its phone-building machines out of China. Truck after truck had been loaded with them for a month. The Chinese authorities were trying desperately to slow the exodus, but it was a foregone conclusion. l believe the destination was Vietnam or India.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 19, 2025 11:23 AM (s8j++)

352 See, that's just factually wrong. Dave and others believe the conflict started a few thousand years ago. Then it intensified in the late 19th/early 20th century. Then all through the 20th century.

And will argue against those who want to start on Oct. 7.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2025 11:15 AM (053ci)
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No, that's not true. There is no thread connecting what is going on today with some precursor struggle in something B.C.

Jews were a very small sidebar in the epic Muslim-Christian contest for control of the Mediterranean basin.

After the Crusades, control of Jerusalem was a dead letter until 1914.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 11:23 AM (ZOv7s)

353 The official Israeli policy is that they will intentionally kill civilians (I believe there is a formula, but I can't remember what it is) to get at Hamas.

Whether Hamas intentionally hides behind children or not, I don't know. I just know plenty of children are getting killed.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2025 11:23 AM (053ci)

This is absolute, poisonous bullshit. You need to stop.

Posted by: runner at April 19, 2025 11:24 AM (g47mK)

354 I saw an interesting video about Foxconn moving all its phone-building machines out of China. Truck after truck had been loaded with them for a month. The Chinese authorities were trying desperately to slow the exodus, but it was a foregone conclusion. l believe the destination was Vietnam or India.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 19, 2025 11:23 AM (s8j++)
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Wow, that's something I hadn't thought about - just moving the tooling from China. That absolutely shortens the timeline for ramping up domestic production, as does bringing back American staff.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 19, 2025 11:25 AM (ZOv7s)

355 'Whether Hamas intentionally hides behind children or not, I don't know. I just know plenty of children are getting killed.'

You should entirely care who is causing that. Not knowing or caring doesn't make you virtuous.

And you don't have to be psychic to read a Hamas mind. They won't shut up about their intentions.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 19, 2025 11:28 AM (3wi/L)

356 355

Well. No response?

I think we can all agree that means I win.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 19, 2025 11:30 AM (3wi/L)

357 My new Mac Mini was made in Vietnam

Posted by: Notsothoreau at April 19, 2025 11:30 AM (cvWHI)

358 Rogan came up during COVID He had a platform and allowed "non-sanctioned" voices to be heard. But now he is branching out. And getting defensive when he or his guests) are caught in lies, and then are told to do a little more research. Don't start none.
Posted by: runner at April 19, 2025 11:09 AM (g47mK)

I love this. You are stating that Rogan is getting huffy because he is spreading lies because what he says he is not researching or supporting his and his guests statements with anything like footnotes/

While not supporting your statements, which is nothing but an opinion to be sure, with anything like footnotes.

and you just got huffy.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 19, 2025 11:30 AM (D7oie)

359 279 Harvard Professors Try Blocking Audit Into Billions in Government Grants

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Hell, that's not suspicious at all.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 19, 2025 10:47 AM (L/fGl)

Is it Constitutional to give the forensic accountants blowtorches and pliers at the start of the audit?

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at April 19, 2025 11:31 AM (pIfcn)

360 My dentist ...informed me that she was interested in becoming an operator on the spinning room floor
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot

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Maybe she could no longer face the tooth!

Posted by: muldoon at April 19, 2025 11:33 AM (/iMjX)

361 Yesterday I watched an observance of the Stations of the Cross conducted at the Coliseum. It was a candlelight service, with thousands in attendance. I reflected on how those assembled at the arena to observe Christians being slaughtered, could ever conceive that the stadium would one day host a religious celebration for a later generation of Christians.
Posted by: kallisto at April 19, 2025 09:01 AM (0aihy)

Christus regnat!

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at April 19, 2025 11:35 AM (nrpZ6)

362 You should entirely care who is causing that. Not knowing or caring doesn't make you virtuous.

And you don't have to be psychic to read a Hamas mind. They won't shut up about their intentions.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 19, 2025 11:28 AM (3wi/L)

What I was saying is that's the position from which Smith and others are arguing. That dead children (and other civilians) ARE the issue.

Whether you or anyone else cares about the why, that's the position they're starting from.

My position is quite simple too: American money, treasure, and blood should not be shed for ANY foreign wars.

Including Israel's.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2025 11:41 AM (cSGQP)

363 @ 195 "If you can keep it" To date, we HAVE kept it. Admirably so.

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at April 19, 2025 11:42 AM (hKoQL)

364 Missing Julie...

Posted by: COMountainMarie at April 19, 2025 11:42 AM (0ohAJ)

365 Well. No response?

I think we can all agree that means I win.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 19, 2025 11:30 AM (3wi/L)

I took that as tongue in cheek. I assume that is correct?

Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2025 11:43 AM (cSGQP)

366 And now, on to the next thread.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 19, 2025 11:44 AM (cSGQP)

367 Better buzz (from the photo) is a San Diego coffee chain. They’re expanding rapidly and are excellent

Posted by: Paulyester at April 19, 2025 11:46 AM (NHyBq)

368 It’s also a mass generalization. Obviously not everyone in a generation is the same. Plenty of GenZ knows how to change a tire. But in general those memes and stereotypes are kinda true. And whatever the cause was, we can’t go back I time and change it. We are where we are for better or worse.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 19, 2025 11:16 AM (DKKgv)

Industrialization is an interesting thing, some cultures were unable to make the leap to industrialization, and some took a long time. The first barrier is material and energy, the second barrier is building out the infrastructure to get materials together, and the finished parts distributed to market, the third is the deal breaker because it is the competing social interests that hinder and prevent industrialization because it either takes power and prestige away from the current regime, or conflicts with established industries. Spain spent 300 years establishing an Iron and steel cannon casting industry, and China essentially spent 700 years even with expert help and INVENTING casting iron.
Getting butts into stations for manufacturing is going to be child play if the finances and markets are sorted out.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 19, 2025 11:46 AM (D7oie)

369 Thank you for this posting!

Posted by: Goatweed at April 19, 2025 11:48 AM (cl9qq)

370 365
'I took that as tongue in cheek. I assume that is correct?'

In part. It is also to show that without reading your mind, I could guess your motivation to have the last word.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 19, 2025 12:00 PM (3wi/L)

371 It's Holy Saturday, so I'm putting this out there: the mystery of the Shroud of Turin, believed to be Jesus' burial shroud.

https://tinyurl.com/mwhj79c2

(Yes, he addresses the radiocarbon dating issue: more went on with that than we were told at the time.)

Posted by: Beverly at April 19, 2025 12:50 PM (Epeb0)

372 Having never set foot in a factory how does Maher presume to understand how staffing works or how much human labor is required?

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By the same token, how do you know that Bill Maher has never set foot in a factory?
Posted by: muldoon at April 19, 2025 11:12 AM (/iMjX)
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Forgive my late response, but I just saw your question. The answer is, of course, I don't know.

But he grew up in suburban NYC, and his father was a radio announcer. At Cornell, he was a history major and he went right into show business (ie, restaurant work) after graduating. I heard him say in a recent conversation, that most of his life has been spent based in Los Angeles. It is a fair guess he has never worked or even stepped foot in a factory, other than for a tour. Its certainly true he has no knowledge or experience with industrial automation, plant management and organization, or even what the people who work in factories are like.

So perhaps he has stepped into a factory for a few minutes, but its a fair bet his knowledge is zero about what he was seeing.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 19, 2025 01:46 PM (kEtER)

373 One of my favorite parts of Easter is that Nicodemus helped bury Jesus.

All the disciples had fled, and Nicodemus had more to lose than maybe anyone, and he still stood up and did that.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Are you honest enough to acknowledge Darwin disproved evolution? at April 19, 2025 08:13 AM

I like the pitcher bearer with the Upper Room. I mean, God just picked this guy out to be involved the in founding of the sacrament. Seemingly at random.

I hope that God will use me similarly.

Posted by: toby928 at April 19, 2025 02:39 PM (jc0TO)

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