Daily Tech News 11 April 2025

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Google is challenging Anthropic's Cursor AI programming assistant with its new Firebase Studio, pushing "vibe coding" to a whole new level. (Bleeping Computer)

"Vibe coding" is the modern equivalent of giving your credit card to a group of North Korean hackers and telling them to build you an app.
Firebase Studio is a great example - of why AI can't replace humans. (The Register)
"The AI part of the app is basically useless," wrote UK-based developer Oscar Molnar, in a Hacker News post. "After two hours of 'vibe coding' a chess clock Flutter app, I got basically nothing in the end. It broke more and more with each message. I tried fixing stuff myself but it would mess it up again. I would not recommend anyone to use it."
I've worked with people like that.

Tech News

Microsoft's Recall - a.k.a the Telescreen was behind the operating system - is now part of the latest "insider builds". (The Verge)

Ave atque vale, insiders. We hardly knew ye, but pretty soon we'll know your credit card numbers and search history.
The USA can't manufacture phones. It's a fantasy. Also, here's how the Liberty Phone is manufactured in the USA. (404 Media)

It's overpriced because nothing in it is sourced from or assembled in the third world, and pretty much everyone gave up on that idea years ago. Including China.
Speaking of which new Intel CEO Lip-Bu Tan has investments in 600 companies in China including some linked to to the Chinese army. (Tom's Hardware)

Yeah, good fucking call there Intel.
The founder and former CEO of shopping app Nate has been indicted on fraud charges over using actual intelligence instead of the artificial kind. (Tech Crunch)

His app promised to find and buy whatever you wanted using the latest AI services.

It was actually a call center in the Philippines.
China is retaliating against reciprocal tariffs imposed by the US by - you're not going to believe this - reducing the number of insufferable woke communist Hollywood propaganda films it allows to screen in the country. (The Guardian)

"Oh no," President Trump is reported to have said.

(Actually he said "I've heard of worse things.")

Musical Interlude

Disclaimer: It's the only way to be sure.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at 04:30 AM

Comments

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1 Mornin'...

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at April 11, 2025 04:32 AM (O7YUW)

2 Spongeworthy?

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at April 11, 2025 04:32 AM (dg+HA)

3 Poke.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at April 11, 2025 04:37 AM (BLOW1)

4 TGV's are cool trains, but their Wifi sucks!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 11, 2025 04:37 AM (9343H)

5 Finally, the comments are back.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at April 11, 2025 04:37 AM (O7YUW)

6 Mornin'

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at April 11, 2025 04:39 AM (MmTZZ)

7 There will probably be an agreement between China and the US after all the grand standing ends. Right now dollar stores will have to be called 5 Dollar General. Hardly anything they and other dollar stores sell are made in China. Paper clips made in China? I'd bet and factory that makes paper clips is almost totally automated.

Posted by: Colin at April 11, 2025 04:43 AM (wlQdF)

8 Vibe Coding: Sounds like yet another fad (scam).

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at April 11, 2025 04:45 AM (O7YUW)

9 w00t

Posted by: m at April 11, 2025 04:48 AM (CQE5S)

10 G'Day everyone
TGIF

Posted by: Skip at April 11, 2025 04:53 AM (ypFCm)

11 Morning, all.

Posted by: Caf at April 11, 2025 04:55 AM (/+mVZ)

12 >>>China is retaliating against reciprocal tariffs imposed by the US by - you're not going to believe this - reducing the number of insufferable woke communist Hollywood propaganda films it allows to screen in the country. (The Guardian)

"Oh no," President Trump is reported to have said.
(Actually he said "I've heard of worse things.")
- -
That's my President!

Posted by: m at April 11, 2025 04:56 AM (CQE5S)

13 Another two-fer!

403 .
NOOD

Pixy's here with the Tech Thread.

NOOD!
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at April 11, 2025 04:32 AM (O7YUW)

1 Mornin'...
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at April 11, 2025 04:32 AM (O7YUW)

Posted by: m at April 11, 2025 04:58 AM (CQE5S)

14 There will be winnings and rumors of winnings.

Posted by: The Book of Trump at April 11, 2025 04:59 AM (dg+HA)

15 Haven't got into the rhythm of Tech thread at 4:30 yet

Posted by: Skip at April 11, 2025 05:03 AM (ypFCm)

16 @13/m:

https://youtu.be/9AlfSGxGjg8

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at April 11, 2025 05:04 AM (O7YUW)

17 3 Poke.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at April 11, 2025 04:37 AM (BLOW1)

ouch

Posted by: m at April 11, 2025 05:04 AM (CQE5S)

18 16 @13/m:

https://youtu.be/9AlfSGxGjg8
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at April 11, 2025 05:04 AM (O7YUW)

W

Posted by: m at April 11, 2025 05:07 AM (CQE5S)

19 It's Friday, it's Friday! Happy, happy Friday!

*twirl*

Posted by: Rosasharn at April 11, 2025 05:09 AM (PzBTm)

20 Rosasharn I will twirl with you with that

Posted by: Skip at April 11, 2025 05:10 AM (ypFCm)

21 Hi Skip! One-two-three - TWIRL!

Posted by: Rosasharn at April 11, 2025 05:12 AM (PzBTm)

22 It's lightly raining

Posted by: Skip at April 11, 2025 05:16 AM (ypFCm)

23 Donut shop is on the way

Posted by: Skip at April 11, 2025 05:17 AM (ypFCm)

24 You're bringing donuts!?!

Posted by: Rosasharn at April 11, 2025 05:21 AM (PzBTm)

25 End of shift stuff is done. Now,,,the waiting begins. Will dayshift show up before 0600 or not? They usually do actually. Watching the Babylon DC local Fox affiliate. They're good for traffic and weather. Everything else, meh, at best. TDS is gospel around here.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at April 11, 2025 05:22 AM (MmTZZ)

26 What about a phone with nothing sourced from China?

Also, Philippines customer service is amazing.

Posted by: Van Helsing at April 11, 2025 05:23 AM (rirqc)

27 Thinking apple donut today

Posted by: Skip at April 11, 2025 05:33 AM (CFF7Z)

28 "Oh, how I love Jesus" Old time hymn from the 1830's , here played on the guitar :

https://tinyurl.com/yc2tfb2h

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 11, 2025 05:39 AM (UPrHh)

29 Proverbs 23:23 "Buy the truth". A reflection from the rabbi's daughter who runs "International Fellowship of Christians and Jews":

https://tinyurl.com/mscs639h

And may our Jewish posters have a blessed and safe Passover.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 11, 2025 05:44 AM (UPrHh)

30 A fine Friday morning and evening to you early risers and late toilers! I'm up ahead of the alarm, no idea why, planning to work out. (Feeling lazy, but I'll have to kick myself into it.)

I remember that Phil Collins cover of the old Supremes song. It was new when Mrs. Wolfus No. 2-to-be and I, and four of our friends, drove in my big '65 Mercury to Knoxville, TN, for an SF convention where Stephen King was guest of honor. There were still AM stations that played Top 40 then (the '65 had only an AM radio), and we all sang along with that tune.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 11, 2025 05:45 AM (omVj0)

31 Morning, Tech Peeps

Posted by: fluffy at April 11, 2025 05:46 AM (AN2gy)

32 Rosasharn twirls, Trump is president, and the world settles back into its grooves!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 11, 2025 05:46 AM (omVj0)

33 Snow falling up here south of the (NH) border.

Posted by: fluffy at April 11, 2025 05:51 AM (AN2gy)

34 Lessee . . . 65 F., high humidity, 10 mph wind. It's slated to be less humid and a little cooler through the weekend, but then the nasty heat will return. Much as I would prefer to sit here, sip coffee, and hang out with you all, I'd better go work out today.

Yesterday I entered my profile on the Hollywood South Casting website: found a good head shot that was done by a pro photographer when we had those done for my previous employer, added my radio experience and my training with certain dialects (stage accents, that is), told them I'd be willing to work as a background extra or in crowd scenes. And I set up a different free Protonmail account for any responses to go to. All it took was some of my time, so why not.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 11, 2025 05:54 AM (omVj0)

35 Relatively busy day today: checking out a rock show, heading to a fish fry to call my buddy an asshole, watch the market dance like a puppet, check out the shenanigans at the LA City Clowncil, and watch the Red Wings lose another game.

But first I need more sleep.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at April 11, 2025 05:55 AM (ufFY8)

36 27 Thinking apple donut today
Posted by: Skip

As in apple fritter? If so, I approve.

Posted by: NR Pax at April 11, 2025 05:55 AM (RjOoY)

37 Just read yet another 'Will invest in US' headline.

I didn't absorb all the details back in the day, but this is how we got Japanese car brands to build in America. There was genuine animosity, Detroit was sub-standard and I believe Japanese imports got capped at 30% of the market.

My Honda was built in Alabama.

Posted by: fluffy at April 11, 2025 05:57 AM (AN2gy)

38 26 What about a phone with nothing sourced from China?

Posted by: Van Helsing

In this case, nothing sourced from the Third World or whatever China counts itself as these days. Originally I guess it would have been part of the "Second World", aligned with the USSR.

Makes it expensive though.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at April 11, 2025 05:57 AM (BLOW1)

39 Adorable little girl ( I can't tell if she's English or Scottish. Maybe the former ) rants about having to walk to school:

https://tinyurl.com/4k8h29wn

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 11, 2025 05:57 AM (UPrHh)

40 After breakfast, too, I plan to take the Buick to the DIY car wash, come back here and finish the claying, glazing, and waxing of the roof, then spread a thin coat of Lemon Pledge over everything. Adds to the shine, so why not. Tomorrow, haircut and other errands; Sunday, grocery, and I might run the big car out to the Walmart on Hwy. 90 just for the fun of it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 11, 2025 05:58 AM (omVj0)

41 >>> Yesterday I entered my profile on the Hollywood South Casting website:

I believe Georgia has a bit of a film industry.

Posted by: fluffy at April 11, 2025 06:00 AM (AN2gy)

42 I've worked with people like that.

-

AI will now never be asked to do anything difficult ever again while the 20% of employees who do the majority of the work are required take on a portion of AI's duties, too?

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - The majority of women shouldn't weigh more than 140 pounds at April 11, 2025 06:01 AM (ES0Ym)

43 Adorable little girl ( I can't tell if she's English or Scottish. Maybe the former ) rants about having to walk to school:

https://tinyurl.com/4k8h29wn
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 11, 2025

***
She might be in Yorkshire. The Yorkshire dialect is widely considered to be incomprehensible to Americans. (I'm not Henry Higgins, though.)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 11, 2025 06:01 AM (omVj0)

44 https://tinyurl.com/4k8h29wn
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 11, 2025 05:57 AM (UPrHh)

English, I think.

"Two kilos!"

LOL

"It's gawt a wawtah bawtull, and an apple."

Cute, and cute kid.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at April 11, 2025 06:03 AM (ufFY8)

45 techish:

Moving a photo in Microsoft Word

https://nitter.net/
justin_hart/status/1909917202062462993

Posted by: m at April 11, 2025 06:04 AM (CQE5S)

46 *All* companies in china are connected to the chinese army.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at April 11, 2025 06:05 AM (Hw6WF)

47 G'mornin' everyone!
LOL!

thank you, Rosasharn, now it's official!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 11, 2025 06:05 AM (/Ghsb)

48 The juncos are hopping about in the backyard.

They will be flying north in a few days, but maybe the snow will convince them to stick around a bit longer.

Posted by: fluffy at April 11, 2025 06:08 AM (AN2gy)

49 Birdbath status?

Posted by: Just Wondering at April 11, 2025 06:11 AM (dg+HA)

50 I believe Georgia has a bit of a film industry.
Posted by: fluffy

What? You mean that instead of filming things in Southern California, the film industry chooses to do work in a flyover/redneck/slave owning/oppressive state that hates minoritieeees!? How can they look at the lowered tax burden and think that's fair!

Sorry. Couldn't resist.

Posted by: NR Pax at April 11, 2025 06:13 AM (RjOoY)

51 Morning, 'rons and 'ettes.

It's 47 and cloudy. High today 57.

Posted by: olddog in mo at April 11, 2025 06:17 AM (hoCmQ)

52 The Chosen is filmed in Texas and Utah.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at April 11, 2025 06:18 AM (dg+HA)

53 We get Juncos in winter, think they are gone now

Posted by: Skip at April 11, 2025 06:18 AM (aHfB6)

54 Tea. Earl Grey. Hot.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at April 11, 2025 06:19 AM (6K6Eu)

55 >>> You mean that instead of filming things in Southern California

...and putting up with all the nonsense they go elsewhere?

I read that Breaking Bad was conceived as being set in San Bernardino but filming in New Mexico was cheaper and easier.

Posted by: fluffy at April 11, 2025 06:20 AM (AN2gy)

56 The little girl is a Cockney.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at April 11, 2025 06:22 AM (6K6Eu)

57 >>> We get Juncos in winter, think they are gone now

Latest I have seen in 4/20 during a cold, raw April. Usually gone around the 15th.

Posted by: fluffy at April 11, 2025 06:22 AM (AN2gy)

58 @18/m: "W"

Been pondering that reply since you posted it. Still got nothing.

Could you expand on that a bit, please?

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at April 11, 2025 06:26 AM (O7YUW)

59 56 The little girl is a Cockney.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at April 11, 2025 06:22 AM (6K6Eu)

It's like, y'know, innit?

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, I am at April 11, 2025 06:28 AM (PiwSw)

60 Vibe coding is most certainly a fad but using ai for software development is only going to increase.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 11, 2025 06:28 AM (XV/Pl)

61 Good morning, my lovely and sexacious Hordelings.

Been up a couple hours. Admitting to myself that I probably won't go back to sleep has added a solid two hours of reading to my day.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 11, 2025 06:29 AM (kpS4V)

62 I would like to do a mini rant again ( I mentioned this yesterday ) about a friend of mine ( The friend works in social services) who is a conservative who was working with people who say seriously that Jesus didn't have a gender. Really?! So he wouldn't identify as a male?! I told friend to start their own practice. Who needs people like this working with you if you don't have to?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 11, 2025 06:29 AM (9WCm3)

63 58 @18/m: "W"

Been pondering that reply since you posted it. Still got nothing.

Could you expand on that a bit, please?
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at April 11, 2025 06:26 AM (O7YUW)

The video is a Win!

Posted by: m at April 11, 2025 06:31 AM (CQE5S)

64 60 Vibe coding is most certainly a fad but using ai for software development is only going to increase.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 11, 2025 06:28 AM (XV/Pl)

Every time I hear/see the expression "vibe coding," my brain starts up with the Bee Gees "Jive Talking."

Posted by: m at April 11, 2025 06:32 AM (CQE5S)

65 Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea

Thanks. Couldn't tell. Sounded a little like my BIL who came from the industrial Midlands.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 11, 2025 06:33 AM (9WCm3)

66 I am so excited. I was at my lieberry sale yesterday ( waves to Eris ) and I found this book. Seriously, this is the book I found.

Squeeeeeee!

https://is.gd/dfmuq9

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, I am at April 11, 2025 06:34 AM (PiwSw)

67 @63/m: Thanks. (I've caught the seasonal yuck that I always seem to catch this time of year, so I'm not firing on all cylinders.)

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at April 11, 2025 06:34 AM (O7YUW)

Posted by: Don Black at April 11, 2025 06:34 AM (AOsQT)

69 Thanks. Couldn't tell. Sounded a little like my BIL who came from the industrial Midlands.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 11, 2025 06:33 AM (9WCm3)
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I remember a "Prime Suspect" series that opened in Manchester. It took me about a half hour to tune in to their dialect.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at April 11, 2025 06:35 AM (6K6Eu)

70 And a little Hogg shall lead them...

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at April 11, 2025 06:35 AM (dg+HA)

71 Good morning morons

Phil Collins cover is...not good. He leeched all the Motown out of it.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 11, 2025 06:37 AM (RIvkX)

72 Having never heard the term, may i inquire if "vibe coding" is really what it sounds like, which would be "sucking at writing script and pretending it's fine"?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 11, 2025 06:38 AM (KtIIi)

73 Byeee...

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at April 11, 2025 06:40 AM (6K6Eu)

74 CBD, are you cooking for Passover this year?

Posted by: bluebell at April 11, 2025 06:40 AM (79pEw)

75 Wolfus, I look forward to seeing you in the talkies.

Posted by: bluebell at April 11, 2025 06:41 AM (79pEw)

76 Good morning one and all. Last night was date night so we ate at Chick-Fil-A and went home to watch Vampire Hunter D. The movie is 40 years old this week and it has aged well.

Posted by: NR Pax at April 11, 2025 06:41 AM (RjOoY)

77 Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at April 11, 2025 06:35 AM (6K6Eu)

My sister worked in Manchester . I think she initially found the dialect hard to understand as well.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 11, 2025 06:42 AM (naQFZ)

78 66 I am so excited. I was at my lieberry sale yesterday ( waves to Eris ) and I found this book. Seriously, this is the book I found.

Squeeeeeee!

https://is.gd/dfmuq9
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, I am at April 11, 2025 06:34 AM (PiwSw)

Kill it with fire!

Posted by: m at April 11, 2025 06:42 AM (CQE5S)

79 I'm just here for the twirling

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 11, 2025 06:43 AM (RIvkX)

80 vibe coding:

Andrej Karpathy
@karpathy
Feb 2
There's a new kind of coding I call "vibe coding", where you fully give in to the vibes, embrace exponentials, and forget that the code even exists. It's possible because the LLMs (e.g. Cursor Composer w Sonnet) are getting too good. Also I just talk to Composer with SuperWhisper so I barely even touch the keyboard. I ask for the dumbest things like "decrease the padding on the sidebar by half" because I'm too lazy to find it. I "Accept All" always, I don't read the diffs anymore. When I get error messages I just copy paste them in with no comment, usually that fixes it. The code grows beyond my usual comprehension, I'd have to really read through it for a while. Sometimes the LLMs can't fix a bug so I just work around it or ask for random changes until it goes away. It's not too bad for throwaway weekend projects, but still quite amusing. I'm building a project or webapp, but it's not really coding - I just see stuff, say stuff, run stuff, and copy paste stuff, and it mostly works.

Posted by: m at April 11, 2025 06:43 AM (CQE5S)

81 I mean, really, it sounds like a PM giving vague instructions to a scripting team to build an app, who do, but the PM isn't happy because he got exactly what he asked for and he didn't know how to formulate what it is he wants into unambiguous language. Which is basically the fundamental problem of programming itself with an extra step added and a convenient stoolpigeon as a bonus.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 11, 2025 06:44 AM (KtIIi)

82 Psycho, did you sleep in today? You're late!

Happy almost Passover! What are you having tomorrow?

Posted by: bluebell at April 11, 2025 06:44 AM (79pEw)

83
... reducing the number of insufferable woke communist Hollywood propaganda films it allows to screen in the country. (The Guardian)

Overhead, the formerly sputtering sound of Disney's gigantic revenue machine could be heard coughing, sporadically cutting out and then beginning the rising whine of a craft commencing to auger into the ground below..

Stand from under, folks!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 11, 2025 06:44 AM (xG4kz)

84 CBD, are you cooking for Passover this year?
Posted by: bluebell at April 11, 2025 06:40 AM (79pEw)
====

Pate shmeared on matza.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 11, 2025 06:45 AM (RIvkX)

85 Pate shmeared on matza.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 11, 2025 06:45 AM (RIvkX)
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He probably essentially has a Barbie kitchen, so you may be right.

Posted by: bluebell at April 11, 2025 06:46 AM (79pEw)

86 Good Morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear into the heart of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 11, 2025 06:47 AM (u82oZ)

87 mornin yall

"A transgender activist dubbed America's first nonbinary person has tragically died by suicide after a long and storied battle with gender dysphoria."

Anybody surprised? The "first" nonbinary person is also the first first nonbinary person to off themselves.

Posted by: fd at April 11, 2025 06:47 AM (vFG9F)

88 "81 I mean, really, it sounds like a PM giving vague instructions to a scripting team to build an app, who do, but the PM isn't happy because he got exactly what he asked for and he didn't know how to formulate what it is he wants into unambiguous language."

Also known as Bring Me A Rock.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at April 11, 2025 06:48 AM (dg+HA)

89 "A transgender activist dubbed America's first nonbinary person has tragically died by suicide after a long and storied battle with gender dysphoria."

--

Wait, why is that news?

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - The majority of women shouldn't weigh more than 140 pounds at April 11, 2025 06:49 AM (ES0Ym)

90 71 Phil Collins cover is...not good. He leeched all the Motown out of it.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 11, 2025 06:37 AM (RIvkX)

You nailed it! I guess he's performing homage; maybe somebody heard it first from him.

Posted by: m at April 11, 2025 06:49 AM (CQE5S)

91 I going to try vibe cooking where you throw everything in the fridge in a sous vide bag and cook it for two days.

Posted by: fd at April 11, 2025 06:50 AM (vFG9F)

92 A transgender activist dubbed America's first nonbinary person

That's a lot of words to say "mentally ill."

has tragically died by suicide after a long and storied battle with gender dysphoria.

Snark aside, I do feel bad for him. I really hope that we go back to treating gender dysphoria as a mental illness and handle treatment like we would anorexia.

Posted by: NR Pax at April 11, 2025 06:50 AM (RjOoY)

93 Thanks bluebell, I've been enjoying a more normal sleep pattern so I'm not up at this hour usually.

Mrs. F. made brisket with roasted root vegetables, matza ball soup, gefilte fish. MiL made flourless chocolate almond cake with raspberry sauce.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 11, 2025 06:51 AM (RIvkX)

94 "Snark aside, I do feel bad for him. I really hope that we go back to treating gender dysphoria as a mental illness and handle treatment like we would anorexia.
Posted by: NR Pax "

Everyone that encouraged his illness is complicit in his death.

Posted by: fd at April 11, 2025 06:51 AM (vFG9F)

95 Phil Collins cover is...not good. He leeched all the Motown out of it.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 11, 2025 06:37 AM (RIvkX)
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Even the suit didn't help.

To think it would be possible to cover a Supremes song ... the head, it shakes

I had to go listen to Diana Ross to clean my ears

Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 11, 2025 06:51 AM (HalWT)

96

Andrej Karpathy
@karpathy
Building @EurekaLabsAI. Previously Director of AI @ Tesla, founding team @ OpenAI, CS231n/PhD @ Stanford. I like to train large deep neural nets 🧠🤖💥
Stanford
karpathy.ai
Joined April 2009

Posted by: m at April 11, 2025 06:52 AM (CQE5S)

97 that's a great way to look at it, Eris! more reading time!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 11, 2025 06:52 AM (/Ghsb)

98 Mrs. F. made brisket with roasted root vegetables, matza ball soup, gefilte fish. MiL made flourless chocolate almond cake with raspberry sauce.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 11, 2025 06:51 AM (RIvkX)
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Yum, yum, yum. Wish I lived close enough to beg for leftovers.

Posted by: bluebell at April 11, 2025 06:53 AM (79pEw)

99 Except for the gefilte fish, of course.

Posted by: bluebell at April 11, 2025 06:54 AM (79pEw)

100 Everyone that encouraged his illness is complicit in his death.

Agreed. The problem is that nowadays, medical professionals face a loss of license and worse if they take any approach other than affirmation.

Posted by: NR Pax at April 11, 2025 06:54 AM (RjOoY)

101 fd

We need an adult conversation about the mentally ill. And what to do. Don't want deep state involvement. Can they be productive, yet isolated?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 11, 2025 06:54 AM (u82oZ)

102 Diana Ross, ladies and gents:
https://tinyurl.com/d9z2pvv2

Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 11, 2025 06:54 AM (HalWT)

103
Oh Yeah

https://youtu.be/6jJkdRaa04g

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 11, 2025 06:55 AM (xG4kz)

104 I would like to do a mini rant again ( I mentioned this yesterday ) about a friend of mine ( The friend works in social services)... Who needs people like this working with you if you don't have to?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

-

Don't view this differently than it's intended. It's an observation, not an attack:

They didn't come up with that on their own. They're following the Science.

Something like 80% of social services workers are women, and it's not hard to see how these predictable, unquestioning, social media driven ladies would "help" or otherwise advise their cases and cause more confusion, chaos, and damage.

Then, later on, the vast majority (75%+) of therapists are women, so when women seek needed therapy they are almost certain to find someone that will actively make their lives worse via stupid and trendy advice. Marriage is hard, so just get divorced if you're not happy! Get a loan and go back to college!

Little seemingly throwaway silliness like "Jesus didn't gender" is a symptom of a much larger problem, and one that can't be easily fixed.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - The majority of women shouldn't weigh more than 140 pounds at April 11, 2025 06:55 AM (ES0Ym)

105 fd

Canada has a plan for the mentally ill.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 11, 2025 06:55 AM (u82oZ)

106 Everyone that encouraged his illness is complicit in his death.

-

HOW DARE YOU GENDER THAT PERSON!!!
- Social Workers and therapists

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - The majority of women shouldn't weigh more than 140 pounds at April 11, 2025 06:56 AM (ES0Ym)

107 I'm still chuckling over the "I've heard of worse things" line from Trump. Hollywood tried to choose the world, specifically China, over the American President, and got bit in the rear end hard by it. Too bad, so sad!

Posted by: pookysgirl, not a fan of teething at April 11, 2025 06:56 AM (Wt5PA)

108 I had a Winchell's Cinnamon Crunch donut with my first cuppajava. Donut bliss. This is a good start to the day. So much to do. I have to make enchiladas, and later, watch hockey.

Posted by: Don Black at April 11, 2025 06:57 AM (AOsQT)

109 If only there were a book someone could consult to learn Jesus' gender...

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, I am at April 11, 2025 06:57 AM (PiwSw)

110 Morning.

Vibe coding?

It's tempting to ask AI to write some CSS for me. But, nah, my needs are simple, so, I'll write the basics and expand from there. That way, I learn something.*

*note, basics are already written and in use. Expansion may or may not happen, depending on how lazy I am over the next year or so.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 11, 2025 06:57 AM (tT6L1)

111 Phil Collins once recorded a song about being in love with an underage girl. I didn't realize what it was about until my wife clued me in. Now I cannot recall which song it is but it was a catchy pop tune about being weird.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 11, 2025 06:58 AM (HalWT)

112 Poke.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at April 11, 2025 04:37 AM (BLOW1)

If you have a pig in that poke, I’d be interested in purchasing it.

Posted by: Buzz Adrenaline at April 11, 2025 06:58 AM (JRP2U)

113 102 Diana Ross, ladies and gents:
https://tinyurl.com/d9z2pvv2
Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 11, 2025 06:54 AM (HalWT)

She's perfect.

Posted by: m at April 11, 2025 06:58 AM (CQE5S)

114 I am the Shadout Mapes, I am

A well know book? Wildly referenced, rarely reader comprehension? That book?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 11, 2025 07:00 AM (u82oZ)

115 "Gender dysphoria."
Is that what you kids are calling it nowadays?

Posted by: Corporal Max Klinger, MASH 4077 at April 11, 2025 07:00 AM (dg+HA)

116 Gefilte fish is served only to the most sophisticated peasant palates, like mine.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 11, 2025 07:01 AM (RIvkX)

117 87 "A transgender activist dubbed America's first nonbinary person has tragically died by suicide after a long and storied battle with gender dysphoria."

Anybody surprised? The "first" nonbinary person is also the first first nonbinary person to off themselves.
Posted by: fd at April 11, 2025 06:47 AM (vFG9F)

I thought their whole point was that there have ALWAYS been non-binary people and that we are ONLY NOW so very, very BRAVE as to recognize it.

Posted by: m at April 11, 2025 07:02 AM (CQE5S)

118 "Is that what you kids are calling it nowadays?"

Yeah but Klinger's motivation was different. I remember him being told that he could get discharged by declaring himself homosexual and he got offended at the idea.

Posted by: NR Pax at April 11, 2025 07:02 AM (RjOoY)

119 >Phil Collins once recorded a song about being in love with an underage girl.
---

Gary Puckett and the Union Gap made a career out of this

https://youtu.be/wdpJFWwNbGk

Posted by: Don Black at April 11, 2025 07:02 AM (AOsQT)

120 I was there in Central Park when Diana Ross sang "Ain't No Mountain High Enough" in a thunderstorm. Very memorable.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 11, 2025 07:03 AM (RIvkX)

121
2.4 statute miles of intravenous surgical tubing at Yale University Hospital = 1 IV League

Posted by: Ciampino - telescopic knee. no wait at April 11, 2025 07:03 AM (sPQoU)

122 Remember, though, it's our fault the crazy activist killed themselves. We obviously didn't do enough to confirm the crazy, therefore, the crazy had to take their own life in order to showcase the lack of support.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 11, 2025 07:04 AM (tT6L1)

123

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at April 11, 2025 07:05 AM (5hfjS)

124 re @110 & learning something; I read the Karpathy stuff Pixy posted (last week?) ... he was coming to the conclusion that AI dependency was actually making him stupider ... less able to do code himself.

so, good for you! keep that brain strong!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 11, 2025 07:05 AM (/Ghsb)

125 Limey’s trying to sing Motown … yeesh. I didn’t like that tune. Somebody branded Collins as a “power whiner” and it kind of fits. Struggling to think of a tune of his I like. He got a lot of airplay is the problem, and MTV liked him, a lot. Non estibus disputanum, ya’all

Posted by: Common Tater at April 11, 2025 07:07 AM (ACATy)

126 "... he was coming to the conclusion that AI dependency was actually making him stupider ... less able to do code himself."

Kinda like what they said about the introduction of the hand held calculator back in the day.

Posted by: Grandpa Simpson at April 11, 2025 07:09 AM (dg+HA)

127 I almost never understand words being sung, particularly with accents, poetic license, local/country slang and good old disattention. So I just enjoy a good tune, and the harmony. I go online to find the words.

Posted by: Ciampino - endoscopic knee. no wait at April 11, 2025 07:09 AM (sPQoU)

128 "he was coming to the conclusion that AI dependency was actually making him stupider ..."

That make since.

Posted by: Guy who relys on spel chek at April 11, 2025 07:10 AM (vFG9F)

129 Hilary!

Why don't you date AOC? She is available.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 11, 2025 07:10 AM (u82oZ)

130 Never got into Phil Collins,

Posted by: Skip at April 11, 2025 07:11 AM (aHfB6)

131 Phil was doing a tribute.
The Temptations did a better job, of course, as it was their song.

But if you remember what mid-80s music was like, Phil really took a leap reaching back to cover a 60s pop song and turned it into gold again.

The video was also really well done for its time, too. It was nothing close to the greatness of Genesis’ “Land of Confusion” video or Peter Gabriel’s “Sledgehammer” video, but still enjoyable back then for pre-teen me.

I bought the cassette or CD (can’t remember which one now), so it worked.

Or maybe it was “Susudio” that won me over?

https://youtu.be/r0qBaBb1Y-U

Posted by: SpeakingOf at April 11, 2025 07:12 AM (6ydKt)

132 Phil Collins is the plain Cheerios of the music world.

Posted by: fd at April 11, 2025 07:12 AM (vFG9F)

133 Time to go, everyone.

May there be sunshine and hugs in your vicinity.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 11, 2025 07:12 AM (u82oZ)

134 >>> Struggling to think of a tune of his I like

ABACAB

Posted by: fluffy at April 11, 2025 07:13 AM (AN2gy)

135 Limey’s trying to sing Motown … yeesh. I didn’t like that tune. Somebody branded Collins as a “power whiner” and it kind of fits. Struggling to think of a tune of his I like. He got a lot of airplay is the problem, and MTV liked him, a lot. Non estibus disputanum, ya’all
Posted by: Common Tater at April 11, 2025 07:07 AM (ACATy)

-------------------

Yeah, Limey's should stick to singing the Blues.

https://tinyurl.com/yckf6ypd

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 11, 2025 07:14 AM (tT6L1)

136 I like "In The Air Tonight".

Posted by: Ciampino - endoscopical knee. no wait at April 11, 2025 07:14 AM (sPQoU)

137 Have a good one, Salty!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 11, 2025 07:15 AM (tT6L1)

138 I remember when that Phil Collins video came out "You Can't Hurry Love"...1982?
I had never seen that bald headed english bastard before and I thought all three of the singers in the group must be triplets.

Posted by: Mike Reno, Fat Now at April 11, 2025 07:15 AM (ekEaX)

139 131 Phil was doing a tribute.
The Temptations did a better job, of course, as it was their song.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at April 11, 2025 07:12 AM (6ydKt)

"You Can't Hurry Love" is a song originally recorded by the Supremes on the Motown label. It was released on July 25, 1966 as the second single from their studio album The Supremes A' Go-Go. (wikipedia)

Posted by: m at April 11, 2025 07:16 AM (CQE5S)

140 @72

>>Having never heard the term, may i inquire if "vibe coding" is really what it sounds like, which would be "sucking at writing script and pretending it's fine"?

Vibe coding is essentially software generation by prompt, ie...

Sally, Create an ios calculator app, now make the operator buttons orange, now make the 0 key twice as large as the other buttons, now add a dark mode toggle switch, now add a memory and recall function that will remember the last 20, etc.

Whereas, I am using inline Ai for code completion and code suggestion.

I know how to program in C++ and visual basic, but the ERP app I'm building leverages a whole bunch of technologies I have only passing familiarity with and am learning as I go.

I'm motivated so, it took me a week to learn enough html, css and javascript to start to be able to funtionally leverage, tailwind, node.js and the other web dev components, and using ai to essentially fill in the gaps.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 11, 2025 07:17 AM (XV/Pl)

141 David Letterman mocked "Susudio" on his show every night 1984-85. He really really hated that song, then Phil Collins came on and sang it live.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 11, 2025 07:17 AM (RIvkX)

142 Yes, sometimes dislike of a tune is simply overexposure and in the radio or mtv days they did just that. Music is a business, unfortunately in a lot of ways.

Posted by: Common Tater at April 11, 2025 07:18 AM (ACATy)

143 >>> I like "In The Air Tonight".

I did when it was new, but I've lost my taste for it.

I do enjoy videos where people use it as background and then do homemade percussion (slam kitchen cabinets, gunfire) along with the drum break.

You know which drum break.

Posted by: fluffy at April 11, 2025 07:19 AM (AN2gy)

144 The Sons of Anarchy Italia fan site https://sonsofanarchy-italia.com stands as the very
first Italian website entirely dedicated to the TV series *Sons of
Anarchy*, brought to life by Kurt Sutter.

Since the end of 2010, it has shared news, pictures, interviews
and additional content about the story and performers.

The site is operated by two administrators, known as Lilli and Moni, and since its foundation, it has garnered over 1,790K hits, becoming the top Italian destination about *Sons of
Anarchy*.

Posted by: https://sonsofanarchy-italia.com at April 11, 2025 07:19 AM (lmkZ8)

145 well, that's different, innit?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 11, 2025 07:21 AM (/Ghsb)

146 Good morning, Morning People.

Up early. Don't want to be. Things to do, people to see.

Posted by: TecumsehTea at April 11, 2025 07:22 AM (Eo96p)

147 (shrugs) I like Phil Collins. I got about a half dozen of his CDs in my over large collection, not to mention nearly every single Genesis album.

youtu.be/sRY1NG1P_kw

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at April 11, 2025 07:24 AM (sAmhv)

148 His app promised to find and buy whatever you wanted using the latest AI services.

It was actually a call center in the Philippines.

---

LMAO

I bet the call center had better results than AI

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at April 11, 2025 07:26 AM (OTdqV)

149 Kinda like what they said about the introduction of the hand held calculator back in the day.

--

I remember my school teacher saying just that. We weren't even allowed to use those early, rudimentary calculators in class, but I also remember being completely mesmerized by it. To a grade schooler, it was magic.

Posted by: Lady in Black at April 11, 2025 07:26 AM (qBdHI)

150 150

Posted by: m at April 11, 2025 07:27 AM (CQE5S)

151 And since YouTube is leading me around the nose this morning with their recommendations, this one came up and maybe CBD will check it out as the video was filmed in Paris:

https://youtu.be/xat1GVnl8-k

If they’d have done the Olympic Opening Ceremony like that, I’d have enjoyed it much more, this I can tell you.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at April 11, 2025 07:28 AM (6ydKt)

152 I like "In The Air Tonight".

--

I like it, but I'm so sick of it. Which makes me wonder if I still like it.

Posted by: Lady in Black at April 11, 2025 07:28 AM (qBdHI)

153 I remember my school teacher saying just that. We weren't even allowed to use those early, rudimentary calculators in class, but I also remember being completely mesmerized by it. To a grade schooler, it was magic.
Posted by: Lady in Black at April 11, 2025 07:26 AM (qBdHI)
====
We used our calculators to spell "boobs" upside down.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 11, 2025 07:29 AM (RIvkX)

154 Auto fill out autocorrect.

Not a terrible idea to help poor and questionable spellers, but people's path of least resistance cried out YOLO and they just gave up and got worse.

Now you'll routinely see UR for your and similar in professional emails.

Posted by: Boron Quidquid - Moms lie to daughters because they compete against them for men at April 11, 2025 07:32 AM (Qosqd)

155 34 Wolfus

We can say we knew you "when".

Posted by: TecumsehTea at April 11, 2025 07:33 AM (Eo96p)

156 Now you'll routinely see UR for your and similar in professional emails.
Posted by: Boron Quidquid - Moms lie to daughters because they compete against them for men at April 11, 2025 07:32 AM (Qosqd)
-----------

I freaking hate text message shorthand. I don't use it when I text. I darn sure don't use it in an email. Funny thing, my lefty daughter loathes text message shorthand too and avoids it like the plague.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 11, 2025 07:35 AM (tT6L1)

157 Ahh the Supremes.

I should’ve doublechecked my brain, again.

My bad.
And I just listened to that song last year when I sent both versions to a friend in Brazil so she could compare them.

The Supremes version definitely has more soul, rightfully so.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at April 11, 2025 07:35 AM (6ydKt)

158 I remember my school teacher saying just that. We weren't even allowed to use those early, rudimentary calculators in class, but I also remember being completely mesmerized by it. To a grade schooler, it was magic.
Posted by: Lady in Black at April 11, 2025 07:26 AM (qBdHI)
====
We used our calculators to spell "boobs" upside down.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 11, 2025 07:29 AM (RIvkX)
---
"5318008"

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 11, 2025 07:38 AM (7fElN)

159 I like "In The Air Tonight".

--

I like it, but I'm so sick of it. Which makes me wonder if I still like it.
Posted by: Lady in Black at April 11, 2025 07:28 AM (qBdHI)

—

I listened to it a few months ago when I was comparing the similarities between it and Frida’s “Something Going On” as they’re related to each other.

I hadn’t heard it in years, and it’s still not a bad song if you’re really into good drum work.

But yes, it was definitely overplayed.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at April 11, 2025 07:39 AM (6ydKt)

160 You know which drum break.

Oh yes. Saw a guy do that on a gun range with a pistol. My thoughts?

"No one near him, gun is in the holster until it's time to draw, he's staying safe. I'll allow it."

Posted by: NR Pax at April 11, 2025 07:40 AM (RjOoY)

161 It was overplayed because of Miami Vice

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 11, 2025 07:41 AM (RIvkX)

162 Unlike some people, I shall inform you that JJ is nood.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 11, 2025 07:41 AM (ExV1e)

163 I like to keep the Alphabet Corporation Hatefeed (I'm sure Apples have a similar feature) turned on in my phone's Chrome browser. It's a key NPC firmware updater, so I like it the best, and I read it every day.

The NPCs are mindless, unskilled rage conduits whose only purpose is as a weapon - so if you see what slop Alphabet is serving up for these pigs, you can suss out which things are urgent action items for the Party.

They spew a lot of hate in different directions - a high baseline of free-floating aggression is necessary for the NPCs to function - but they tend to be highly focused on a particular topic where they want to capture and channel that aggression.

The best way to do it is to focus that anger on an individual for NPCs to demonize, so figuring out which of their Goldsteins is getting the most ink reveals the highest current priority.

Right now there is plenty of ginned up hate against Bessent, Trump, et. al. with regard to tariffs - but target #1, bold and underlined with a bullet, is very clearly Musk. Half the Hatefeed is devoted to him right now.

DOGE is clearly their biggest concern, bar none. That's the pain point.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 11, 2025 07:49 AM (BI5O2)

164 Here is may minisaga (keep in mind I'm out of Africa): Heard that song in the 2000s and liked it. (it was already 30+ y. old)
Did not know who Phil Collins was ....Oh the drummer for Genesis. Yes it's a band but I know no songs from them. (I still consciously know no songs from them).

Posted by: Ciampino - too busy living at April 11, 2025 07:54 AM (sPQoU)

165 >>>Disclaimer: It's the only way to be sure.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at 04:30 AM

Nuke 'em from space?

Posted by: m at April 11, 2025 08:16 AM (CQE5S)

166 111 Phil Collins once recorded a song about being in love with an underage girl. I didn't realize what it was about until my wife clued me in. Now I cannot recall which song it is but it was a catchy pop tune about being weird.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 11, 2025 06:58 AM (HalWT)

Dunno what that was.

Posted by: m at April 11, 2025 08:22 AM (CQE5S)

167 143 >>> "In The Air Tonight"

I do enjoy videos where people use it as background and then do homemade percussion (slam kitchen cabinets, gunfire) along with the drum break.

You know which drum break.
Posted by: fluffy at April 11, 2025 07:19 AM (AN2gy)

in the air tonight funny videos

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168 Good musical interlude - though Diana Ross's original is still better.

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