"Top" "Vaccine" "Expert" and Public "Servant" Fired After Blocking the Secretary of Health From Accessing the VAERS Vaccine Adverse Reaction Database

Shortly before he was forced to resign, the nation's top vaccine regulator says he refused to grant Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s team unrestricted access to a tightly held vaccine safety database, fearing that the information might be manipulated or even deleted.

So he's another self-righteous, toxic leftwing paranoid.

In an interview with The Associated Press, former Food and Drug Administration vaccine chief Dr. Peter Marks discussed his efforts to "make nice" with Kennedy and address his longstanding concerns about vaccine safety, including by developing a "vaccine transparency action plan."
Marks agreed to give Kennedy's associates the ability to read thousands of reports of potential vaccine-related issues sent to the government's Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, or VAERS. But he would not allow them to directly edit the data.
"Why wouldn't we? Because frankly we don't trust (them)," he said, using a profanity. "They'd write over it or erase the whole database."

Why would a vaccine skeptic like RFKJr. delete a database of bad reactions to vaccines? The database is evidence to a vaccine skeptic.

What this neurotic delusional paranoid really means, but is still sane enough to know it sounds crazy, is that he fears that Kennedy will start making up adverse vaccine reactions and adding them to the database like a left-wing Wikipedia editor going to town on Trump's page.

Or maybe his staff has categorized these adverse reactions in such a way as to downplay them, and he doesn't want Kennedy coming in and examining the database for improprieties.

...
During his Senate confirmation hearings, Kennedy told lawmakers he is not "antivaccine." But since taking office, he's promised to "investigate" children's shots, and agencies under his watch have terminated vaccine-related research, canceled meetings of vaccine advisers and are poised to reinvestigate ties between vaccines and autism -- a link debunked long ago.

Did "experts" debunk it?

Because we all know that "experts" are always right and only act in the public interest.

...
Marks is highly regarded by former FDA leaders and biotech industry executives, but his time at the agency was not without controversy. During the COVID-19 pandemic he was alternately criticized for being too slow -- under Trump-- and too fast -- under Biden-- to authorize new vaccines and boosters.
Marks says he "tried everything" to work with Kennedy.

Except, of course, actually obeying the orders of his boss. But apart from that -- he did everything.

If this piece sounds a little fawning, that's because it's an AP propaganda piece.

David Strom notes that the whole left is treating him as another Saint Anthony Fauci of the Blessed Furin Cleavage Site.

Obviously the people who hate RFK, Jr., Trump, or even just Republicans will cheer Marks on as if "The Science" means that you can do anything you want if you are a High Priest of the Dark Arts, but the reality is much more prosaic: RFK Jr. is the Senate-approved Cabinet Secretary and Marks had no right to deny him access to data just because Marks disagrees with him.
...
In short, Marks invented a fear, based on something so implausible as to be fantasy--and refused to do his job. As for the "I don't trust them" excuse I say: none of us trust you, Marks, because of how mismanaged things have been. How many people know that the top two FDA vaccine officials resigned in protest over what they considered to be unsafe recommendations for COVID boosters?
They did, and the media barely noticed. That was real, Marks' excuse is based on fantasies that he can read the minds of his bosses. Yet the media has turned him into a hero.
Marks is proving RFK, Jr. right, at least in his suspicions that the people in charge don't want anyone to see the whole picture.

PoIiMath
@politicalmath
I don't think journalists (and scientists) understand how damning this looks
They think this makes Peter Marks a hero, but normal people look at this and say "why is the vaccine safety database off limits to the Secretary of Health?"

Posted by: Ace at 03:40 PM

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1 "Hiding data from the proles is good science. Lest they come to their own conclusions."
-MIT, 5 years ago

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 03:40 PM (GBKbO)

2 And...on top of this...

The flu vaccine was measured to be -27% effective this last flu season.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 03:41 PM (GBKbO)

3 Dr. Marks sounds far too vaccinated.

He needs a nice rest. At GITMO.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 08, 2025 03:41 PM (gUI23)

4 Unbelievable. Someone needs to remind this d*** whose data it is. Specifically, the taxpayer's. Don't like it? GFY.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 08, 2025 03:42 PM (xCA6C)

5 Marks is highly regarded by former FDA leaders and biotech industry executives

That list would be useful...

Posted by: t-bird at April 08, 2025 03:43 PM (KBQMF)

6 Dr. Marx is afraid the truth will come out.

That Fauci and a cabal of conspirators have been lying through their teeth and harming millions of people.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 08, 2025 03:43 PM (gUI23)

7 I'm beginning to agree with those who say mere termination isn't enough.

Jail time.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at April 08, 2025 03:43 PM (LVjsR)

8 "Why wouldn't we? Because frankly we don't trust (them)," he said, using a profanity. "They'd write over it or erase the whole database."

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You mean, like, with a cloth?

Posted by: ShainS -- If Elon Bought Planned Parenthood, The Left Would Hate Abortion at April 08, 2025 03:43 PM (dQfoN)

9 At this point...which dumb bureaucrat thinks it's a good idea to make a show of being resistance?

It seems like there's...a shocking number of them.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 03:43 PM (GBKbO)

10 Did they takes the Ts off all the keyboards too?

So petty.

Posted by: Don Black at April 08, 2025 03:44 PM (AOsQT)

11 When we were pointing out how dangerous the Patriot Act could end up being, all those in favor mouthed the same words.

When we opposed the Surveillance State, all those in favor mouthed the same words.

Now it's my turn to say them: "If you've got nothing to hide, you don't need to worry."

Fuck all the way off.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at April 08, 2025 03:44 PM (rUU8O)

12 Did they takes the Ts off all the keyboards too?

So petty.
Posted by: Don Black at April 08, 2025 03:44 PM (AOsQT)

--

Ha! They can't terminate me if there isn't a T on the keyboard! I'm safe!

Posted by: WitchDoktor at April 08, 2025 03:45 PM (LVjsR)

13 Careful ace.

There's a quote shortage.

Chyna.

Posted by: eleven at April 08, 2025 03:45 PM (0HaGk)

14 Ich bin der Widerstand. -- Peter Marks

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 08, 2025 03:45 PM (ExV1e)

15 I'd agree it should not be possible for Kennedy (or anyone) to "edit" the database. Should it be "read only" ... copies could be used to work wit the data?

Posted by: illiniwek at April 08, 2025 03:46 PM (Cus5s)

16 I wonder how much data he deleted, modified or altered before he was forced out?

He kept everyone out of the data base for a reason.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 08, 2025 03:46 PM (e5NfL)

17 Damn those right-wingers, weaponizing truth, reality and facts to their advantage again.

Posted by: zombie at April 08, 2025 03:46 PM (pMi6S)

18 This whole, executive level cabinet officials, appointees and even the President himself don't actually run or control anything in the executive branch and somehow holdovers really run things, has got to be shot into outer space.

Like that c**trag whore saying they can just wait out Trump for 4 years.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 08, 2025 03:46 PM (XV/Pl)

19 They didn't want JFKjr to see the data because he is going to expose their whole corrupt operation.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 08, 2025 03:47 PM (pohLc)

20 Ha! They can't terminate me if there isn't a T on the keyboard! I'm safe! - Dr. Marx

"But I can still replace you," RFK Jr

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 08, 2025 03:47 PM (gUI23)

21 The media reported Kennedy said kids should get the MMR vaccine. I hope this is disinformation and Kennedy did not say that. If so, Trump needs to fire him.

Posted by: Diabeetus at April 08, 2025 03:47 PM (ASvvW)

22 18 This whole, executive level cabinet officials, appointees and even the President himself don't actually run or control anything in the executive branch and somehow holdovers really run things, has got to be shot into outer space.

Like that c**trag whore saying they can just wait out Trump for 4 years.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 08, 2025 03:46 PM (XV/Pl)

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It's not like it's been the reality of the American administrative state since Eisenhower, or anything.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 03:47 PM (GBKbO)

23 "normal people look at this and say "why is the vaccine safety database off limits to the Secretary of Health?"

That is why they avoid those damn "normal people".

Posted by: illiniwek at April 08, 2025 03:47 PM (Cus5s)

24 Ha! They can't terminate me if there isn't a T on the keyboard! I'm safe! - Dr. Marx

Government employees aren't 'terminated,' dum dum. They're removed.

Yeet!

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at April 08, 2025 03:48 PM (rUU8O)

25 Those who decry light being shed on matters such as these should, ironically, be fired into the Sun.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at April 08, 2025 03:48 PM (KbCG3)

26 Even with deletions there will still be a record or records of the alterations. And that should be recoverable.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 08, 2025 03:48 PM (gUI23)

27 > At this point...which dumb bureaucrat thinks it's a good idea to make a show of being resistance?

It seems like there's...a shocking number of them.
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I think they're being stage managed... like some/most of Congress to "make a stand." Someone influential prods them into doing it, maybe even promises some money or a job elsewhere.

But I'm certain there are those that feel like they can buck the system and remain untouched.

Until they're touched. "Experts"

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 08, 2025 03:48 PM (Q4IgG)

28
...fearing that the information might be manipulated or even deleted.

Yes, that was his "fear."

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 03:48 PM (mvwwF)

29 Like that c**trag whore saying they can just wait out Trump for 4 years.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 08, 2025 03:46 PM (XV/Pl)

Speaking of which, what exactly happens to an Admiral who is relieved of duty?

Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 08, 2025 03:49 PM (pohLc)

30 I saw the Blessed Furin Cleavage Site open for Pearl Jam at the Wetlands Preserve in '91.

Posted by: ShainS -- If Elon Bought Planned Parenthood, The Left Would Hate Abortion at April 08, 2025 03:49 PM (dQfoN)

31 He didn’t want RFK to manipulate or destroy the data??

PROJECTION MUCH, dude??!!

Posted by: Lizzy at April 08, 2025 03:49 PM (Hkcdp)

32 27 I think they're being stage managed... like some/most of Congress to "make a stand." Someone influential prods them into doing it, maybe even promises some money or a job elsewhere.

But I'm certain there are those that feel like they can buck the system and remain untouched.

Until they're touched. "Experts"
Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 08, 2025 03:48 PM (Q4IgG)

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At the same time that fired officials are losing literally ever single case against their firing above the district level.

These people are...not smart.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 03:49 PM (GBKbO)

33 This sounds eerily similar to Treasury officials that didn't want DOGE sniffin around in their books.

Posted by: Pudinhead at April 08, 2025 03:49 PM (pZ64F)

34 they just fired that b&tc8 Terry Adirim too

the "public health" witch behind the military vax mandate

Posted by: Black Orchid at April 08, 2025 03:49 PM (Pv3Rg)

35 hmm did DOGE go to Ft Knox yet?

Posted by: Black Orchid at April 08, 2025 03:49 PM (Pv3Rg)

36 Government employees aren't 'terminated,' dum dum. They're removed.

Yeet!
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at April 08, 2025 03:48 PM (rUU8O)

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RIF'ed, baby!

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 08, 2025 03:49 PM (DRSnL)

37 "normal people look at this and say "why is the vaccine safety database off limits to the Secretary of Health?"

Because he was put in office by someone of whom they disapprove. Duh!

Posted by: Archimedes at April 08, 2025 03:50 PM (xCA6C)

38 "Why wouldn't we? Because frankly we don't trust (them)," he said, using a profanity. "They'd write over it or erase the whole database."

Then make a copy of it you blithering idiot.

Newsflash: That data doesn't belong to you! It belongs to the people who paid for it, and we want to see it. ALL of it.

Posted by: Gosport at April 08, 2025 03:50 PM (7PUnr)

39 poised to reinvestigate ties between vaccines and autism -- a link debunked long ago.

----------

There was study (not peer reviewed) of children in Medicaid in Florida that looked at the incidents of autism and number of vaccinations received. While correlation is not causation the numbers were pretty damning.

You won't find it in a Google search because they are fiddling with the search results.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at April 08, 2025 03:50 PM (Wzq2W)

40 In "The Wizard of Oz (Left-Wing Edition)," the hero is the munchkin who wouldn't let Dorothy open the curtain behind which the charlatan controlling the Wizard illusion was hiding.

In the end, the Wizard is triumphant and dominates, and Dorothy and her friends are guillotined by the Flying Monkeys.

Posted by: zombie at April 08, 2025 03:50 PM (pMi6S)

41 Remember when Pfizer wanted to hide their data about the COVID-19 vaccine for 75 years?

Yeah, this is a lot like that.

Posted by: Seems Legit at April 08, 2025 03:50 PM (PMtkd)

42
What a cutting off of the nose move! Of course the dude will get fired for insubordination and then have NO ability to control the data.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's phone at April 08, 2025 03:50 PM (lCaJd)

43 9 At this point...which dumb bureaucrat thinks it's a good idea to make a show of being resistance?

It seems like there's...a shocking number of them.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 03:43 PM (GBKbO)

I think it's opportunistic.

They don't want to work for the Trump admin, and sabotage is hard work and possibly punishable.

So they commit some token act of insubordination, get the martyrdom they crave along with book deals, think tank or board appointments etc.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at April 08, 2025 03:50 PM (guCHD)

44 VAERS was created after the last bad vaccine - swine flu - was foisted on the public.

At the time public health officials noted it was hard to identify if a vaccine was causing health issues unless people could report their symptoms in one place...and so VAERS was born.

And then when VAERS identified the clot shot was hazardous suddenly it was argued to be bogus data even though it was doing exactly what it was supposed to do.

Note that VAERS had something like 10K times as many incidents for the clot shot as for all other vaccine combined in its decades long history

Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2025 03:50 PM (t0Rmr)

45 My nickname in freshman grade high school PE was 'Peter Marks.'

A healthy, young man entering puberty has to have a start somewhere.

Posted by: Rev Wishbone at April 08, 2025 03:50 PM (fY84s)

46 Speaking of which, what exactly happens to an Admiral who is relieved of duty?
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 08, 2025 03:49 PM (pohLc)

---

Welcome to your new post as commander of the Nebraska Fleet, anchored in Lincoln.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at April 08, 2025 03:51 PM (YnIVK)

47 Marks is one of the worst actors in the COVID op

the worst, maybe the actual worst

he was advising Fauci!

demonic

I think that thing PDJT was talking about, that shocking thing they found, has to do with the COVID op

THAT is the thing. that is the worst thing they've ever done to us.

Posted by: Black Orchid at April 08, 2025 03:51 PM (Pv3Rg)

48 32 27 I think they're being stage managed... like some/most of Congress to "make a stand." Someone influential prods them into doing it, maybe even promises some money or a job elsewhere.

But I'm certain there are those that feel like they can buck the system and remain untouched.

Until they're touched. "Experts"
Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 08, 2025 03:48 PM (Q4IgG)
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What the rear guard overestimates is number of available golden parachutes.

Posted by: Pudinhead at April 08, 2025 03:51 PM (pZ64F)

49 8 "Why wouldn't we? Because frankly we don't trust (them)," he said, using a profanity. "They'd write over it or erase the whole database."

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You mean, like, with a cloth?
Posted by: ShainS -- If Elon Bought Planned Parenthood, The Left Would Hate Abortion at April 08, 2025 03:43 PM (dQfoN)

Yep, more projection.

Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I WAS The Science at April 08, 2025 03:51 PM (lg881)

50 Cleveland clinic employee study of 2024 flu season vax. Those who were vaccinated for flu, over time. Were found 27% more likely to get flu than those who skipped flu vax.

Maybe it was a bad year for Vax. A one off. Maybe not. You have to do the studying to determine. Can't just accept the received wisdom of the industry captured experts....

Posted by: Pre print of study on internet today at April 08, 2025 03:51 PM (5RbTe)

51 Karl Marx >>> Richard Marks

Posted by: BurtTC at April 08, 2025 03:51 PM (dGCAG)

52
War means destroying the supply train, provisions, and intelligence papers before running away after losing.

Bondi, burn this bastard.

Posted by: Auspex at April 08, 2025 03:51 PM (j4U/Z)

53 Note people like Marks should face a Nuremberg tribunal and get the same treatment that previous generation of Mengeles got.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2025 03:51 PM (t0Rmr)

54 43 They don't want to work for the Trump admin, and sabotage is hard work and possibly punishable.

So they commit some token act of insubordination, get the martyrdom they crave along with book deals, think tank or board appointments etc.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at April 08, 2025 03:50 PM (guCHD)

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I doubt that there are that many book deals to go around.

Estimates are that 217,000 feds have already left.

This doesn't include the probationary employees that just got refired. Or the RIFs that are coming.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 03:52 PM (GBKbO)

55 Short rope and a long gallows?

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 08, 2025 03:52 PM (gUI23)

56 It's so weird that the left is trying so hard to hide all this perfectly legitimate and good for you stuff that they've been doing.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 08, 2025 03:52 PM (17l0u)

57 What a cutting off of the nose move! Of course the dude will get fired for insubordination and then have NO ability to control the data.
.

So they commit some token act of insubordination, get the martyrdom they crave along with book deals, think tank or board appointments etc.

That is the answer. It allows them to pose as heroes who have resisted the fascists. It's all about their egos.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 08, 2025 03:52 PM (xCA6C)

58 It's interesting to note that this vaunted protector of sacred information could simply release these files or asked that they be released to protect against editing.

Why should this shit be kept behind locked doors?

Oh...

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at April 08, 2025 03:52 PM (KbCG3)

59 Dr. Peter Marks looks like he enjoys cleaning up his wife after a night out with her tinder date.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 08, 2025 03:52 PM (/U5Yz)

60 Cleavage Site

sorry, spaced out for a minute

Can you repeat that? I wasn't really listening.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at April 08, 2025 03:53 PM (1Idb6)

61 50 Cleveland clinic employee study of 2024 flu season vax. Those who were vaccinated for flu, over time. Were found 27% more likely to get flu than those who skipped flu vax.

Maybe it was a bad year for Vax. A one off. Maybe not. You have to do the studying to determine. Can't just accept the received wisdom of the industry captured experts....
Posted by: Pre print of study on internet today at April 08, 2025 03:51 PM (5RbTe)

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"All we know is that we need a bigger budget, more staff, and raises to figure out what's going on."
-The people who recommended the wrong flu shot cocktail

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 03:53 PM (GBKbO)

62 They didn't want JFKjr to see the data because he is going to expose their whole corrupt operation.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 08, 2025 03:47 PM (pohLc)

I shan't believe it! I simply shall not!

Posted by: mrp at April 08, 2025 03:53 PM (rj6Yv)

63 Should be arrested

Posted by: Skip at April 08, 2025 03:53 PM (ypFCm)

64 ...fearing that the information might be manipulated or even deleted.

Yes, that was his "fear."
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 03:48 PM (mvwwF)

Probably because that's what he has done. Might be interesting to compare the information to what is generally known.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 03:53 PM (n7h9X)

65 Even with deletions there will still be a record or records of the alterations. And that should be recoverable.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 08, 2025 03:48 PM (gUI23)

If you press delete on a government computer it will erase the data from your machine, and the local backup, and the offline backup, and it can't be restored ever.

Didn't someone at the "Department of Peace" try that? You'd think government drones would stay up to date on the latest "what do you mean the system doesn't work like that" news.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 08, 2025 03:53 PM (ExV1e)

66
I doubt that there are that many book deals to go around.

Estimates are that 217,000 feds have already left.

This doesn't include the probationary employees that just got refired. Or the RIFs that are coming.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 03:52 PM (GBKbO)

Sure, the little people get nothing. Never do. Useful idiots.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at April 08, 2025 03:53 PM (guCHD)

67 53 Note people like Marks should face a Nuremberg tribunal and get the same treatment that previous generation of Mengeles got.

YES

no I will not forgive

and I will not forget

Posted by: Black Orchid at April 08, 2025 03:53 PM (Pv3Rg)

68 Short rope and a long gallows?
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 08, 2025 03:52 PM (gUI23)

Long walk, short pier, and piranhas.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 08, 2025 03:53 PM (VNX3d)

Posted by: libertarians at April 08, 2025 03:53 PM (mvwwF)

70 57 That is the answer. It allows them to pose as heroes who have resisted the fascists. It's all about their egos.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 08, 2025 03:52 PM (xCA6C)

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It'll be about DC priced mortgages for them soon.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 03:53 PM (GBKbO)

71 59 Dr. Peter Marks looks like he enjoys cleaning up his wife after a night out with her tinder date.
Posted by: Maj. Healey

"Tinder date" is a delicate way if putting it.

Posted by: zombie at April 08, 2025 03:53 PM (pMi6S)

72 What happens to the NATO admiral who was relieved of duty?
Guess she’s back home, now exclusively in charge of the little man on the boat…

Posted by: Lizzy at April 08, 2025 03:54 PM (Hkcdp)

73 "Speaking of which, what exactly happens to an Admiral who is relieved of duty? "

In this case, they are transferred to the retired list and fade into obscurity.

Posted by: Gosport at April 08, 2025 03:54 PM (7PUnr)

74 That is the answer. It allows them to pose as heroes who have resisted the fascists. It's all about their egos.

Well, and their wallets.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 08, 2025 03:54 PM (xCA6C)

75 The CDC is still hiding their "study" about myocarditis subsequent to MRNA vaccination.

The technical reason was that is was internal communication and therefore not subject to FOIA requests.

However, REAL scientists release all of their data. QED, the CDC is not populated with real scientists.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 08, 2025 03:54 PM (Q4Dc6)

76 53 Note people like Marks should face a Nuremberg tribunal and get the same treatment that previous generation of Mengeles got.
Posted by: 18-1

I agree but, we can't even get the Epstein list released and the pedos perp walked.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 08, 2025 03:54 PM (/U5Yz)

77 So, you saying Dr. Piotr Marx is another David French?

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 08, 2025 03:54 PM (gUI23)

78 69
Posted by: libertarians at April 08, 2025 03:53 PM (mvwwF)

======

Theory:

There should be a split between libertarians: national vs. international libertarians.

Discuss.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 03:54 PM (GBKbO)

79 56 It's so weird that the left is trying so hard to hide all this perfectly legitimate and good for you stuff that they've been doing.

I'd laugh at this but I'm busy crying

lol I give up

three years of torture

Posted by: Black Orchid at April 08, 2025 03:54 PM (Pv3Rg)

80 Now go ahead and tell us why that entire database isn't public already.

Posted by: Boron Quidquid - Moms lie to daughters because they compete against them for men at April 08, 2025 03:54 PM (dPYfM)

81 Your kids need 72 vaccines before they are 16.

So STFU I have an all expenses paid "conference" in Hawaii to get to. Pfizer knows how to stock an open bar, let me tell you.

Posted by: Medical Experts at April 08, 2025 03:55 PM (jGJov)

82 They also "removed" Vice Admiral Shoshana Chatfield as the U.S. military representative to NATO for not putting the picture of the CIC and Sec of Defense and calling a meeting to say, "We'll wait them out 4 years."

Good riddance, idiot.

Posted by: Seems Legit at April 08, 2025 03:55 PM (PMtkd)

83 Karl Marx >>> Richard Marks
Posted by: BurtTC at April 08, 2025 03:51 PM (dGCAG)

Dammit:

Karl Marx>>>Peter Marks

I swear, I have nothing against shitty ballad "rock" of the 80s.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 08, 2025 03:55 PM (dGCAG)

84 I doubt that there are that many book deals to go around.

Estimates are that 217,000 feds have already left.

This doesn't include the probationary employees that just got refired. Or the RIFs that are coming.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 03:52 PM (GBKbO)

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My husband took DRP 2.0 yesterday.

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 08, 2025 03:55 PM (DRSnL)

85 That database will explain why Vaccine Manufacturers were given Immunity.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 08, 2025 03:55 PM (17l0u)

86 82 They also "removed" Vice Admiral Shoshana Chatfield as the U.S. military representative to NATO for not putting the picture of the CIC and Sec of Defense and calling a meeting to say, "We'll wait them out 4 years."

Good riddance, idiot.
Posted by: Seems Legit at April 08, 2025 03:55 PM (PMtkd)

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The spoils system >>>>>>>>> the professional civil service.

And the spoils system sucks.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 03:55 PM (GBKbO)

87 They think this makes Peter Marks a hero, but normal people look at this and say "why is the vaccine safety database off limits to the Secretary of Health?"
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Because he is a Democrat Apostate who works for Trump.

Duh.

Posted by: Propaganda Press Explainer at April 08, 2025 03:55 PM (QEO+S)

88 Short rope and a long gallows?

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 08, 2025 03:52 PM (gUI23)

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Long rope and a Cybertruck?

Posted by: ShainS -- If Elon Bought Planned Parenthood, The Left Would Hate Abortion at April 08, 2025 03:55 PM (dQfoN)

89 https://tinyurl.com/33fh256y

Here you go.

Posted by: Pre print of study on internet today at April 08, 2025 03:55 PM (5RbTe)

90 In this case, they are transferred to the retired list and fade into obscurity.
Posted by: Gosport at April 08, 2025 03:54 PM (7PUnr)

I'm thinking she was a DEI Admiral.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 08, 2025 03:55 PM (pohLc)

91 Cleveland clinic employee study of 2024 flu season vax. Those who were vaccinated for flu, over time. Were found 27% more likely to get flu than those who skipped flu vax.

Maybe it was a bad year for Vax. A one off. Maybe not. You have to do the studying to determine. Can't just accept the received wisdom of the industry captured experts....
Posted by: Pre print of study on internet today at April 08, 2025 03:51 PM (5RbTe)

I have only had one flu shot. I instantly got a flu. I have some annoying side effects from any cold or flu that makes me notice, since I haven't had too many flus outside of that one.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 03:56 PM (n7h9X)

92 Think about it. 1) Are there no backups or other data sources/reports for the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System data? 2) Would RFK Jr. have any interest in deleting data that indicated problems (because he loves vaccines)?

Posted by: Tennessee Volunteer at April 08, 2025 03:56 PM (+NuC/)

93 84 My husband took DRP 2.0 yesterday.
Posted by: Jordan61 at April 08, 2025 03:55 PM (DRSnL)

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May he find quick employment being a hard worker who can easily demonstrate his value.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 03:56 PM (GBKbO)

94 America is best served by hiding vaccine research and letting 130 year olds continue to collect Social Security.

How dare anyone rock the boat!

The sides the Left has taken in these debates is truly disgusting. The only hope they really have is the economy tanks.

Posted by: Leupold at April 08, 2025 03:56 PM (4pwAx)

95 Vice Admiral Shoshana Chatfield

She's white as Wonder Bread. Shoshana? Cultural appropriation.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 08, 2025 03:57 PM (gUI23)

96 Must be the REAL database where they logged the nasty shit they were injecting people with just to see what happens.

The general public thinks they all got the same shit. The real scientists know there was some extreme experimentation going on.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at April 08, 2025 03:57 PM (H/2Ua)

97 When I relieve myself of doody each morning, I feel free. Free to sale the high seas, or to take a nap.

Posted by: Rear Admiral Tard Backsplash at April 08, 2025 03:57 PM (guCHD)

98 Why would Kennedy want to delete data that supports his case? It's a database of adverse events, by definition, there won't be any data supporting the notion of vaccine safety.

I expect we will find that it's Peter Marks who has been deleting shit.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 08, 2025 03:57 PM (8zz6B)

99 82 They also "removed" Vice Admiral Shoshana Chatfield as the U.S. military representative to NATO for not putting the picture of the CIC and Sec of Defense and calling a meeting to say, "We'll wait them out 4 years."

Good riddance, idiot.
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Its like they don't know how to play the game. Salute the rank, not the man.

Posted by: Pudinhead at April 08, 2025 03:57 PM (pZ64F)

100 However, REAL scientists release all of their data. QED, the CDC is not populated with real scientists.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 08, 2025 03:54 PM (Q4Dc6)

We knew that when they started fighting potato chips and not contagious diseases.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 03:57 PM (n7h9X)

101 Boy, it is a good thing that we have all these hero-minded bureaucrats defending us from.... the boss. WTF?

Posted by: tcn in AK at April 08, 2025 03:57 PM (eQO/Z)

102 VAERS conspiracy theory...

The data already in there is faked or massaged, which would be evident in an audit conducted by people who have full access to it and want to know the truth.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at April 08, 2025 03:57 PM (YnIVK)

103 92 Think about it. 1) Are there no backups or other data sources/reports for the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System data? 2) Would RFK Jr. have any interest in deleting data that indicated problems (because he loves vaccines)?

OK, #2 already stated...

Posted by: Tennessee Volunteer at April 08, 2025 03:58 PM (+NuC/)

104 Speaking of which, what exactly happens to an Admiral who is relieved of duty?
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 08, 2025 03:49 PM (pohLc)

It just means that they no longer hold the position that they former held. She's still a Vice Admiral. It's likely that they'd force her out the next time the issue arises - assuming no D in the WH, maybe she'll retire. Otherwise they'll find something for her to do.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 08, 2025 03:58 PM (ExV1e)

105 The spoils system >>>>>>>>> the professional civil service.

And the spoils system sucks.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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History books always overstated the spoils system defects and promoted the idea of 'professional' bureaucrats in a civil service instead.

Usually you had a political figurehead on top and below them, a competent professional. So you really had a mix of political versus professional hirees.

Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:58 PM (ctrM5)

106 Show us morons the cleavage.

Posted by: torabora at April 08, 2025 03:58 PM (Xjzeb)

107 I expect we will find that it's Peter Marks who has been deleting shit.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 08, 2025 03:57 PM (8zz6B)

I suspect he fears the autists.

Posted by: tcn in AK at April 08, 2025 03:58 PM (eQO/Z)

108 20 Ha! They can't terminate me if there isn't a T on the keyboard! I'm safe! - Dr. Marx

"But I can still replace you," RFK Jr

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 08, 2025 03:47 PM

It would be awesome if Pixy could come up with an application such that Musk and DOGE were given a "CMD + A" function!

(Replace all)

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 08, 2025 03:58 PM (Q4Dc6)

109 Its like they don't know how to play the game. Salute the rank, not the man.
Posted by: Pudinhead at April 08, 2025 03:57 PM (pZ64F)

All signs that the criminal wing of the Dems is losing power vs the religious Zealots. Dems have relied on hiding what they are, the Zealots don't know how to conceal themselves.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 03:59 PM (n7h9X)

110 106 Show us morons the cleavage.
Posted by: torabora at April 08, 2025 03:58 PM (Xjzeb)

You mean like Leah Dunham's butt crack? Careful what you wish for, sport.

Posted by: tcn in AK at April 08, 2025 03:59 PM (eQO/Z)

111 Otherwise they'll find something for her to do.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
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Defense attache to the embassy at South Sudan. Extensive fieldwork required.

Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:59 PM (ctrM5)

112 I'm beginning to agree with those who say mere termination isn't enough.

Jail time.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at April 08, 2025 03:43 PM (LVjsR)

There's termination, and there's termination. Not all of it is "mere".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 08, 2025 03:59 PM (8zz6B)

113 At the same time that fired officials are losing literally ever single case against their firing above the district level.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 03:49 PM (GBKbO)

They never see that part of the story. They only see the "brave government resistance person you've never heard of continues to waste your tax dollars" headline while they're stroking themselves.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 08, 2025 03:59 PM (ExV1e)

114 105 History books always overstated the spoils system defects and promoted the idea of 'professional' bureaucrats in a civil service instead.

Usually you had a political figurehead on top and below them, a competent professional. So you really had a mix of political versus professional hirees.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:58 PM (ctrM5)

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I've read enough about how powerful spots became instant centers of corruption like the NY postmaster's office or running the NY custom's house to have anything like a rosy view of the spoils system.

However, I'm sure they're no less corrupt now than they were then. They just have a veneer of professionalism that protects them.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 03:59 PM (GBKbO)

115 Its like they don't know how to play the game. Salute the rank, not the man.
Posted by: Pudinhead at April 08, 2025 03:57 PM (pZ64F)

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It's also incredible arrogance thinking everyone in the room thinks the same stupid shit she did.

Someone in that room (who disagreed) either recorded or verbatim told someone with clout.

Posted by: Seems Legit at April 08, 2025 03:59 PM (PMtkd)

116 Put the Admiral in charge of a dingy at the North Pole.

This is your boat. Patrol here. Supplies are short. Suggest you ration.

Safe travels.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 08, 2025 03:59 PM (17l0u)

117 It just means that they no longer hold the position that they former held. She's still a Vice Admiral. It's likely that they'd force her out the next time the issue arises - assuming no D in the WH, maybe she'll retire. Otherwise they'll find something for her to do.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
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I mean, why not just fire them?
Insubordination of the commander in chief.

Why let them keep causing trouble in a position of power?

Posted by: Leupold at April 08, 2025 04:00 PM (4pwAx)

118
Livestream of fresh new EO's!

https://is.gd/wmgnPC

Posted by: libertarians at April 08, 2025 04:00 PM (mvwwF)

119 Gen. Weasel Clarke became SACUER but after embarrassing Clinton he was relieved of command early. Then he later tried to run for President as a Democrat.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 08, 2025 04:00 PM (gUI23)

120
Energy EO's

I love it.

Posted by: libertarians at April 08, 2025 04:00 PM (mvwwF)

121 >> They also "removed" Vice Admiral Shoshana Chatfield as the U.S. military representative to NATO for not putting the picture of the CIC and Sec of Defense and calling a meeting to say, "We'll wait them out 4 years."

That’s an immediate Article 92. Like a layup Article 92

Posted by: Marcus T at April 08, 2025 04:01 PM (Nhvp0)

122
lol @ wesley clark and his flannel shirts
he was as gay as blazes

Posted by: libertarians at April 08, 2025 04:01 PM (mvwwF)

123 The sides the Left has taken in these debates is truly disgusting. The only hope they really have is the economy tanks.
Posted by: Leupold
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Millei's experiment in Argentina indicates that might be a false hope to rescue them.

Some leaders flourish in chaos like Trump or Millei do, others crumble like Schumer.

Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 04:01 PM (ctrM5)

124 Dr. Peter Marks looks like he enjoys cleaning up his wife after a night out with her tinder date.
Posted by: Maj. Healey
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he discovered a vaccine for testosterone

Posted by: wth at April 08, 2025 04:01 PM (v0R5T)

125
sonofbeech!

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 04:01 PM (mvwwF)

126 May he find quick employment being a hard worker who can easily demonstrate his value.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 03:56 PM (GBKbO)

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I think he just wants to be retired. He does have his military pension and some VA money, so there's that.

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 08, 2025 04:01 PM (DRSnL)

127 My husband took DRP 2.0 yesterday.
Posted by: Jordan61 at April 08, 2025 03:55 PM (DRSnL)

Good for him. I'm certainly enjoying mine. It is a sweet deal.

Posted by: tcn in AK at April 08, 2025 04:01 PM (eQO/Z)

128 I mean, why not just fire them?
Insubordination of the commander in chief.

Why let them keep causing trouble in a position of power?
Posted by: Leupold at April 08, 2025 04:00 PM (4pwAx)

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It's more difficult to get rid of a flag rank officer than your general O-3 type. Usual method is to put them in some boring staff assignment in the ass end of nowhere and let them wither.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at April 08, 2025 04:02 PM (YnIVK)

129 92 Think about it. 1) Are there no backups or other data sources/reports for the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System data? 2) Would RFK Jr. have any interest in deleting data that indicated problems (because he loves vaccines)?

OK, #2 already stated...
Posted by: Tennessee Volunteer at April 08, 2025 03:58 PM (+NuC/)

If there are no backups that has to be a death penalty order offense right there. So with backups forever, you can go back in time and see what if any are changed or deleted. Data not entered is a little harder as it needs extra data on what should have been added.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 04:02 PM (n7h9X)

130 If there's an entire freaking database of "Vaccine Adverse Effects", I don't really need to see it. Your hiding it says everything.

Posted by: t-bird at April 08, 2025 04:02 PM (KtPtl)

131 I'm beginning to agree with those who say mere termination isn't enough.

Jail time.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at April 08, 2025 03:43 PM (LVjsR)

There's termination, and there's termination. Not all of it is "mere".
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 08, 2025 03:59 PM (8zz6B)

Here's your kayak and a paddle. Your termination paperwork, including final paycheck(s) and post-termination benefits and retirement packages, are on a raft 2 miles off-shore. If you want them, paddle out to pick them up.

We pick up the raft in 24 hours. If the paperwork is still there, you have accepted that you do not receive anything from the government from here on. No benefits, no retirement.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 08, 2025 04:02 PM (VNX3d)

132 92 Think about it. 1) Are there no backups or other data sources/reports for the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System data? 2) Would RFK Jr. have any interest in deleting data that indicated problems (because he loves vaccines)?

OK, #2 already stated...
Posted by: Tennessee Volunteer at April 08, 2025 03:58 PM (+NuC/)

Vice Admiral of Kansas.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 04:02 PM (n7h9X)

133 125
sonofbeech!
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 04:01 PM (mvwwF)

My sister lives on a little lake on the Kenai called Sonova Lake. So, she lives on Sonova Beach.

Posted by: tcn in AK at April 08, 2025 04:02 PM (eQO/Z)

134 The flu vaccine was measured to be -27% effective this last flu season.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 03:41 PM (GBKbO)

I would LOVE to see a comparison of flu incidence rates between vaxxed and never-vaxxed. The study you referenced only compared people based on having or not having this year's flu shot. I suspect we would see an even larger disparity if we compared having this year's shot and having never received a flu shot in the past.

Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at April 08, 2025 04:02 PM (Sf2cq)

135 123 Millei's experiment in Argentina indicates that might be a false hope to rescue them.

Some leaders flourish in chaos like Trump or Millei do, others crumble like Schumer.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 04:01 PM (ctrM5)

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There's so much chaos directed at the Democrat infrastructure while we may be building a grounding for a stronger economy in general (I'm thinking more of the lowered amounts stolen and given to the DNC from fed funds and regulatory moves than anything else) that...2026 seems like it could be quite different from normal patterns.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 04:03 PM (GBKbO)

136 119 Gen. Weasel Clarke became SACUER but after embarrassing Clinton he was relieved of command early. Then he later tried to run for President as a Democrat.
Posted by: Anna Puma
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You left out nearly causing a war with the Russians by attacking those stationed at a Kosovo airfield.

Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 04:03 PM (ctrM5)

137 That type of insubordination cannot be tolerated, ever. She should be demoted, stripped of all pay and allowances, and forfeit any pension.

The fact that this kind of thing has been allowed to fester and apparently entrenched for years and years is not a prescription for confidence going forward. It would be foolish to believe there are not many more just like her. They need to be expunged.

Posted by: Common Tater at April 08, 2025 04:03 PM (NxbtL)

138 126 I think he just wants to be retired. He does have his military pension and some VA money, so there's that.
Posted by: Jordan61 at April 08, 2025 04:01 PM (DRSnL)

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May he learn to fish to fill his days.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 04:03 PM (GBKbO)

139 115 Its like they don't know how to play the game. Salute the rank, not the man.
Posted by: Pudinhead at April 08, 2025 03:57 PM (pZ64F)
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It's also incredible arrogance thinking everyone in the room thinks the same stupid shit she did.

Someone in that room (who disagreed) either recorded or verbatim told someone with clout.
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Even women don't like working for women. Its True!

Posted by: Pudinhead at April 08, 2025 04:03 PM (pZ64F)

140 I was mad at myself for missing the big drop yesterday, but looks like I did the right thing after all. The Dow closed down 0.84% for the day. I'll watch tomorrow. Presumably a lot of the people who were waiting with itchy trigger fingers to buy got reamed today, since it started out up 1400.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 08, 2025 04:03 PM (xCA6C)

141 It's more difficult to get rid of a flag rank officer than your general O-3 type. Usual method is to put them in some boring staff assignment in the ass end of nowhere and let them wither.
Posted by: WitchDoktor
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I'm asking because I dont know, I assumed someone in the military can be discharged by the President and there's not much you can do about it.

Posted by: Leupold at April 08, 2025 04:03 PM (4pwAx)

142 TJM,

Do you have a link to that MIT paper? Seems like it was a white paper from a department (not published or peer reviewed). I used to have it bookmarked at work but I retired and do not have that bookmarked machine anymore. Bah!

TIA

Posted by: Brunnhilde at April 08, 2025 04:04 PM (3AwA+)

143 Why let them keep causing trouble in a position of power?
Posted by: Leupold at April 08, 2025 04:00 PM (4pwAx)

If you are an admiral in charge of a two room office with 1 clerk, you are not in a position of power.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 04:04 PM (n7h9X)

144 85 That database will explain why Vaccine Manufacturers were given Immunity.
Posted by: AlaBAMA

The drug companies were more 'immune' than their guinea pig injectees ever were.

Posted by: Rex B at April 08, 2025 04:04 PM (bhV/D)

145 At least I thought destroying evidence and government records was a crime

Posted by: Skip at April 08, 2025 04:04 PM (ypFCm)

146 124 Dr. Peter Marks looks like he enjoys cleaning up his wife after a night out with her tinder date.
Posted by: Maj. Healey
.....

he discovered a vaccine for testosterone
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Look honey, I really think it's time you get back on swingers.com. it's been a long time since you had a proud young bull service you and I think you are depressed. Lord knows I am.

Posted by: Dr. Peter Marks at April 08, 2025 04:04 PM (5RbTe)

147 There's so much chaos directed at the Democrat infrastructure while we may be building a grounding for a stronger economy in general (I'm thinking more of the lowered amounts stolen and given to the DNC from fed funds and regulatory moves than anything else) that...2026 seems like it could be quite different from normal patterns.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Depends on the Panicans as Trump put it. I am sure donors to them are screaming at them over the phone about what is happening. The Panicans will be fine if they stay the course because the base understands this is a needed corrections as do a lot of independents and even some Democrats. But, it will cost them donor support I'll bet.

Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 04:05 PM (ctrM5)

148 If you are an admiral in charge of a two room office with 1 clerk, you are not in a position of power.
Posted by: Oldcat

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I would argue that's most bureaucrats in DC, and they most certainly do wield power.

Posted by: Leupold at April 08, 2025 04:05 PM (4pwAx)

149 Has the CDC done anything to benefit mankind in the last 30 years? If not, why does it exist?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 08, 2025 04:05 PM (/U5Yz)

150 Prstina , yeah that was the embarrassment.

British General Jocko Jackson called White Hall who called DC who called Hungary and suddenly Russia have no overfly rights.

So it was because of the British we didn't get into a shooting war with Russia in Jugoslavia.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 08, 2025 04:05 PM (gUI23)

151 It's more difficult to get rid of a flag rank officer than your general O-3 type. Usual method is to put them in some boring staff assignment in the ass end of nowhere and let them wither.
Posted by: WitchDoktor
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I'm asking because I dont know, I assumed someone in the military can be discharged by the President and there's not much you can do about it.

Posted by: Leupold at April 08, 2025 04:03 PM

The President can demand the resignation of any commissioned officer in the military. If they don't resign he can fire them.*

*hawaiin judge ruling that will be overturned on appeal not withstanding.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 08, 2025 04:05 PM (e5NfL)

152 I think RFK Jr. said he's looking into the vaccine schedule. I seem to recall getting my vaccines when I was in elementary school,. Whereas I think vaccines are currently given to newborns or, at least, that's when they start with vaccinations.

So, I wonder if RFK Jr is thinking along the lines it's not so much the vaccine as when the vaccines are administered.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 08, 2025 04:06 PM (tT6L1)

153 142 TJM,

Do you have a link to that MIT paper? Seems like it was a white paper from a department (not published or peer reviewed). I used to have it bookmarked at work but I retired and do not have that bookmarked machine anymore. Bah!

TIA
Posted by: Brunnhilde at April 08, 2025 04:04 PM (3AwA+)

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Sorry, I don't. Joe Mannix would reference with some regularity.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 04:06 PM (GBKbO)

154 Dr. Peter Marks has a fetish or a few. Look at him. That guy likes something not right.

Posted by: Seems Legit at April 08, 2025 04:06 PM (PMtkd)

155 Now go ahead and tell us why that entire database isn't public already.
Posted by: Boron Quidquid - Moms lie to daughters because they compete against them for men at April 08, 2025 03:54 PM (dPYfM)

Retarded fuckheads like you would misconstrue the data and that might negatively impact my pharma stock. -- Dr. Marks

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 08, 2025 04:06 PM (ExV1e)

156 Cleveland home opener starts shortly. 32 degrees at game time, but the Global Warming was cleared from the field, so there is that at least.

Maybe MLB should consider a shorter season, starting in late April.

Posted by: Propaganda Press Explainer at April 08, 2025 04:06 PM (7RUmD)

157 It's more difficult to get rid of a flag rank officer than your general O-3 type. Usual method is to put them in some boring staff assignment in the ass end of nowhere and let them wither.
Posted by: WitchDoktor
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I'm asking because I dont know, I assumed someone in the military can be discharged by the President and there's not much you can do about it.
Posted by: Leupold

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I believe the difficulty is that Admirals have to be confirmed by the Senate. It's SHOULD be easy to just toss them overboard, but the rules are different for the politically connected like Admirals.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at April 08, 2025 04:06 PM (YnIVK)

158 I would LOVE to see a comparison of flu incidence rates between vaxxed and never-vaxxed. The study you referenced only compared people based on having or not having this year's flu shot. I suspect we would see an even larger disparity if we compared having this year's shot and having never received a flu shot in the past.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at April 08, 2025 04:02 PM (Sf2cq)

I've never had a flu vax. And I've never had the flu.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 08, 2025 04:07 PM (pohLc)

159 In this case, they are transferred to the retired list and fade into obscurity.
Posted by: Gosport at April 08, 2025 03:54 PM (7PUnr)

With a fat pension, no doubt. Give the bitch a dishonorable discharge, and cancel her pension.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 08, 2025 04:07 PM (8zz6B)

160 My husband took DRP 2.0 yesterday.

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 08, 2025 03:55 PM

What?

You are trying to tell me that the RACIST Trump administration is giving out benefits to a Hispanic gentleman?

CNN/MSNBC/NYT have all told me that is unpossible!

P.S. Tell your husband PI said "Hi!".

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 08, 2025 04:07 PM (Q4Dc6)

161 "She's still a Vice Admiral."

Might want to check that. Not sure she met the time in grade requirements to retire as a Vice and I'd bet my last dollar she will be back on the block with her cats within the next two months. The leftwing underground doesn't have any clout to keep her on active duty and she certainly doesn't have it herself. That picture stunt and the waiting them out comment sealed that deal.

Posted by: Gosport at April 08, 2025 04:07 PM (7PUnr)

162 Has the CDC done anything to benefit mankind in the last 30 years? If not, why does it exist?

They did a lot of good during the Ebola outbreak in 2014-2016. Just because this guy is asshoe doesn't mean they do no good.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 08, 2025 04:07 PM (xCA6C)

163 They also "removed" Vice Admiral Shoshana Chatfield as the U.S. military representative to NATO for not putting the picture of the CIC and Sec of Defense and calling a meeting to say, "We'll wait them out 4 years."

I assume she'll be given the opportunity to retire or face a court martial for gross insubordination.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 08, 2025 04:07 PM (ExV1e)

164 152 I think RFK Jr. said he's looking into the vaccine schedule. I seem to recall getting my vaccines when I was in elementary school,. Whereas I think vaccines are currently given to newborns or, at least, that's when they start with vaccinations.

So, I wonder if RFK Jr is thinking along the lines it's not so much the vaccine as when the vaccines are administered.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 08, 2025 04:06 PM (tT6L1)

The childhood vaccine schedule has also added ~ 4x as many vaccines as compared to the mid-80’s.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at April 08, 2025 04:08 PM (Mxf84)

165 What is the data behind our latest vax? You don't wanna know. We don't wanna know. That's what makes us science experts. Yippee kiyay mofo.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at April 08, 2025 04:08 PM (wBaIH)

166 The fact that this kind of thing has been allowed to fester and apparently entrenched for years and years is not a prescription for confidence going forward. It would be foolish to believe there are not many more just like her. They need to be expunged.
Posted by: Common Tater

Before WWII, Army Chief of Staff George Marshall had to remove a lot of deadwood generals and reached down into the colonel ranks to replace them.

Frankly we are WAYYY overstaffed at the flag rank level given the size of the current military. Simply relieve a bunch of them from command and don't fill the slot (and eventually eliminate it).

Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 04:08 PM (ctrM5)

167 I think RFK Jr. said he's looking into the vaccine schedule. I seem to recall getting my vaccines when I was in elementary school,. Whereas I think vaccines are currently given to newborns or, at least, that's when they start with vaccinations.
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Mass General "asked" us to get a refresh on our Measles vaccine before letting us into the new baby area to see our first grandchild. No vax, no entry.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 08, 2025 04:08 PM (7RUmD)

168 P.S. Tell your husband PI said "Hi!".
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 08, 2025 04:07 PM (Q4Dc6)

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Will do! And him leaving is going to entirely wipe out the "diversity" in the office.

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 08, 2025 04:09 PM (DRSnL)

169 She obviously put the vice into Admiral

Conduct prejudicial to maintaining good order.

They busted Kirk down to Captain for insubordination.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 08, 2025 04:09 PM (gUI23)

170 Whoa, Jordan sighting!

How is our favorite bacon wench doing?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 08, 2025 04:09 PM (tT6L1)

171 There's so much chaos directed at the Democrat infrastructure while we may be building a grounding for a stronger economy in general (I'm thinking more of the lowered amounts stolen and given to the DNC from fed funds and regulatory moves than anything else) that...2026 seems like it could be quite different from normal patterns.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Depends on the Panicans as Trump put it. I am sure donors to them are screaming at them over the phone about what is happening. The Panicans will be fine if they stay the course because the base understands this is a needed corrections as do a lot of independents and even some Democrats. But, it will cost them donor support I'll bet.
Posted by: whig a

"I can't do anything. He's CRAZY! But need money"

Posted by: Panican Lobbyist and/or politician at April 08, 2025 04:09 PM (RgW1J)

172 154 Dr. Peter Marks has a fetish or a few. Look at him. That guy likes something not right.
Posted by: Seems Legit

Probably has something to do with lab equipment.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 08, 2025 04:09 PM (/U5Yz)

173 Marks, you don't own that database, nor the office spaces or the equipment/computers that were used. You don't own any of it therefore, not your property and it is illegal and against Federal Records Management policy to have done what you did. Hero? You are a butt-hurt little Demi-God with hurt feelings and delusions of grandeur.

Should have any and all benefits revoked and prosecuted.

Posted by: Cheri at April 08, 2025 04:09 PM (oiNtH)

174 Under the old spoils system friends and allies got jobs they could do as well as anyone else (because the jobs aren't that hard).

Under the new permanent bureaucracy system people that can't do the job they were hired for, which again generally isn't very hard, get fabulously wealthy somehow in them.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2025 04:09 PM (t0Rmr)

175 Peter Marks is a f*cking Nazi. He was all in on mandates and destroying the lives of people who didn't acquiesce to the government's insane demands.

I hope he rots in hell.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at April 08, 2025 04:09 PM (1I7ss)

176 Before WWII, Army Chief of Staff George Marshall had to remove a lot of deadwood generals and reached down into the colonel ranks to replace them.
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Having less generals results in winning wars.

Posted by: Pudinhead at April 08, 2025 04:09 PM (pZ64F)

177 I think RFK Jr. said he's looking into the vaccine schedule. I seem to recall getting my vaccines when I was in elementary school,. Whereas I think vaccines are currently given to newborns or, at least, that's when they start with vaccinations.

So, I wonder if RFK Jr is thinking along the lines it's not so much the vaccine as when the vaccines are administered.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 08, 2025 04:06 PM (tT6L1)

Yeah vaccines at birth is stupid. We don't do that with kittens. Infants aren't going out, running about, getting too many disease vectors. The old way was going into school when all those DID kick in.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 04:10 PM (n7h9X)

178 Karl Marks??

Posted by: andycanuck (/tzYP) at April 08, 2025 04:10 PM (/tzYP)

179 "It will be taken out of context!" is one of their favorite lies.

Posted by: NR Pax at April 08, 2025 04:10 PM (lXCUP)

180 I'm asking because I dont know, I assumed someone in the military can be discharged by the President and there's not much you can do about it. Posted by: Leupold

And you were right. Cite the large number of field and flag grade officers involuntarily beached during the Obama and Biden admins.

Posted by: Gosport at April 08, 2025 04:10 PM (7PUnr)

181 Part of the need for so many vaccines is that we are importing hordes of third worlders were those diseases run rampant.

Cut off the flow of third worlders and those diseases disappear again in the US.

Hell we could end influenza in the rest of the world with an effective blockade of China.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2025 04:11 PM (t0Rmr)

182 The Sec Def should order the Army to conduct a multi division war game exercise.

And see what happens.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 08, 2025 04:11 PM (gUI23)

183 Naomi Wolf had a team (a large team) of assistants going through the Pfizer documents (which they were forced to release) and hoo boy, did she find a lot of shit.

One of the most horrible parts was the absolute knowledge that the vaccine could and would induce stillborn babies.

Pfizer needs to be nuked.

Posted by: Seems Legit at April 08, 2025 04:11 PM (PMtkd)

184
I have to axe: Are we going to cover Ellen Page's recent "joyful" interview in which she says she's totally a man, but cries and acts like a bitch?

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 04:11 PM (mvwwF)

185
Frankly we are WAYYY overstaffed at the flag rank level given the size of the current military. Simply relieve a bunch of them from command and don't fill the slot (and eventually eliminate it).
Posted by: whig

Put each one on a ship.

You get an Admiral
You get an Admiral
You get an Admiral
etc

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 08, 2025 04:11 PM (63Dwl)

186 So, I wonder if RFK Jr is thinking along the lines it's not so much the vaccine as when the vaccines are administered.
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There is an emerging school of thought that questions the large number of and timing of vaccinations. 26 before age two.

I am almost 60. I got like 5 or six total. Survived as did my peers. I am just sayin

Posted by: Dr. Peter Marks at April 08, 2025 04:11 PM (5RbTe)

187 Having less generals results in winning wars./i]

We have more command staff now then we did with an army many times larger at the end of WWII

Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2025 04:12 PM (t0Rmr)

188 Theory:

There should be a split between libertarians: national vs. international libertarians.

Discuss.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 03:54 PM (GBKbO)

You must be talking about the party, because there's not really anything to split, when it comes to theory.

Basically... and I keep saying this, but people don't seem to want to believe it, the LP had a massive revolt before the 2022 elections, and overthrew all the douchebag lefties who had been running the party.

Somehow they played parliamentary games and got their douchebag gay lefty candidate nominated for president, but the party members by and large abandoned him, and a large number of them supported Trump.

What many people think of as libertarianism, isn't. It's the idiot party members who are no longer in charge, who earned mockery and derision.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 08, 2025 04:12 PM (dGCAG)

189 Trump is talking to coal miners.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 08, 2025 04:12 PM (+nKhw)

190 How is our favorite bacon wench doing?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 08, 2025 04:09 PM (tT6L1)

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Doing well! How's by you?

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 08, 2025 04:12 PM (DRSnL)

191 Frankly we are WAYYY overstaffed at the flag rank level given the size of the current military. Simply relieve a bunch of them from command and don't fill the slot (and eventually eliminate it).
Posted by: whig

The Royal Navy currently has more Admirals than warships.

I suspect the USN is not much different.

Posted by: Suspicious Miklos at April 08, 2025 04:12 PM (RgW1J)

192 Marks, you don't own that database, nor the office spaces or the equipment/computers that were used. You don't own any of it therefore, not your property and it is illegal and against Federal Records Management policy to have done what you did. Hero? You are a butt-hurt little Demi-God with hurt feelings and delusions of grandeur.

Should have any and all benefits revoked and prosecuted.

Bingo. I worked as a scientist for DoD for 32 years. We didn't publish our data because we weren't allowed to. However, if SecDef, and by extension, the President told me to, it would be out asap.

The idea that I'd say "nahhh, you don't meet my standards for release" would never occur to me. It would have been immediate termination.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 08, 2025 04:12 PM (xCA6C)

193 184
I have to axe: Are we going to cover Ellen Page's recent "joyful" interview in which she says she's totally a man, but cries and acts like a bitch?

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 04:11 PM (mvwwF)

Doesn't really distinguish her from men these days. Their tear ducts are well oiled.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at April 08, 2025 04:13 PM (guCHD)

194 175 Peter Marks is a f*cking Nazi. He was all in on mandates and destroying the lives of people who didn't acquiesce to the government's insane demands.

I hope he rots in hell.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at April 08, 2025 04:09 PM (1I7ss)

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I don't know much about him. But if he was part of the "do what I say or lose everything" crowd, fuck him.

Posted by: Seems Legit at April 08, 2025 04:13 PM (PMtkd)

195 Having less generals results in winning wars.
Posted by: Pudinhead
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It also needs to be considered how much each flag rank officer has in their retinue as aides, etc. that are essentially dead weight.

Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 04:13 PM (ctrM5)

196 One of the most horrible parts was the absolute knowledge that the vaccine could and would induce stillborn babies
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EGGS OMLETS....

Posted by: Pfizer guy counting his money at April 08, 2025 04:13 PM (5RbTe)

197 Will do! And him leaving is going to entirely wipe out the "diversity" in the office.

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 08, 2025 04:09 PM

In that case, it was a good thing Trump cancelled the DEI rules.

If Kamala had won, your husband would have been forced to keep working as unpaid labor past retirement to perpetuate those diversity stats!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 08, 2025 04:13 PM (Q4Dc6)

198 I am not a fan of tyre irons, way too American. I however, subscribe to the concept of applying lump hammers to this waste of oxygen.

Posted by: NZFrank with an M2 at April 08, 2025 04:13 PM (bgJ0E)

199 Yeah vaccines at birth is stupid. We don't do that with kittens. Infants aren't going out, running about, getting too many disease vectors. The old way was going into school when all those DID kick in.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025

The cdc list of recommended vaccines seems to have grown exponentially since my kids were born

Posted by: LASue at April 08, 2025 04:13 PM (6Brfa)

200
ellen page: I feel like a man because I can step out of the shower with a towel around my waist.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 04:13 PM (u+yWI)

201 Doing well! How's by you?
Posted by: Jordan61

Bacon Wench speaks fluent New Orleans Yat?
Did not know dat.

Posted by: Miklos ax how ya makin'? at April 08, 2025 04:14 PM (RgW1J)

202 The Sec Def should order the Army to conduct a multi division war game exercise.

And see what happens.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 08, 2025 04:11 PM (gUI23)

You don't even have to spend money on it. There are lots of simulator games for wars from any time in history to play with.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 04:14 PM (n7h9X)

203 If there's an entire freaking database of "Vaccine Adverse Effects", I don't really need to see it. Your hiding it says everything.
Posted by: t-bird at April 08, 2025 04:02 PM (KtPtl)

well, I hope you keep in mind that all vaccinations carry non-zero risk, and act accordingly.

Posted by: Total professional medical professional who has a professional interest in your health at April 08, 2025 04:14 PM (D7oie)

204 I mean, why not just fire them?
Insubordination of the commander in chief.

Why let them keep causing trouble in a position of power?
Posted by: Leupold at April 08, 2025 04:00 PM (4pwAx)

I'm not entirely sure how it works for flag officers but she was fired. She still holds rank... lower rank people would have to salute her... but she's limited in the orders she can give.

Rando person with stars can't just walk into a place and start telling people what to so. I expect they'll give her the option of retirement or being prosecuted for insubordination and conduct detrimental to the chain of command.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 08, 2025 04:14 PM (ExV1e)

205 I am almost 60. I got like 5 or six total. Survived as did my peers. I am just sayin
Posted by: Dr. Peter Marks at April 08, 2025 04:11 PM (5RbTe)
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I've a few years on you and remember the same. And yeah, we all managed to survive, too.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 08, 2025 04:14 PM (tT6L1)

206 The left, while raging about Musk and defacing Tesla's, will defend this unelected bureaucrat who has actually committed damage against the American people.

Posted by: Cheri at April 08, 2025 04:14 PM (oiNtH)

207 Another day of Trumpmas miracles!

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 08, 2025 04:14 PM (qGadR)

208 Otherwise they'll find something for her to do.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 08, 2025 03:58 PM (ExV1e)

Surely there is a crying need for an accurate census of penguins on Adak?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 08, 2025 04:14 PM (8zz6B)

209
livestream for EO's again:

https://is.gd/wmgnPC

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 04:14 PM (u+yWI)

210 Ellen Page was passed around like a joint while working in Hollywood.

So becoming a man, in her mind, protects her from that happening again.

However as many young men in Hollywood can attest...it doesn't.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2025 04:15 PM (t0Rmr)

211 Will do! And him leaving is going to entirely wipe out the "diversity" in the office.

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 08, 2025 04:09 PM

In that case, it was a good thing Trump cancelled the DEI rules.

If Kamala had won, your husband would have been forced to keep working as unpaid labor past retirement to perpetuate those diversity stats!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 08, 2025 04:13 PM (Q4Dc6)

he should hand out "race cards" as parting gifts .

Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 04:15 PM (n7h9X)

212 188 What many people think of as libertarianism, isn't. It's the idiot party members who are no longer in charge, who earned mockery and derision.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 08, 2025 04:12 PM (dGCAG)

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I do think there are things to split ideologically.

Like, open borders can be a tenet of libertarianism. Free trade between nations can be a tenet of libertarianism. But...what if the primary concern is organization of a nation, not a planet?

And yes, I understand the general uselessness of the LP and its different forms over the past 15 years or so. It's never going to be a powerful organization in America because when it's controlled by actual libertarians, they fail to actually organize. When it's co-opted, it becomes a joke. Well, a different kind of joke.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 04:15 PM (GBKbO)

213 So I was flipping through my streaming service and saw that Juno was available. The "Details" section said it starred Eliot Page. Then I start the movie and it says "Ellen Page."

The trans corps really needs to work on its memory-holing.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at April 08, 2025 04:15 PM (64qRd)

214 Rando person with stars can't just walk into a place and start telling people what to so. I expect they'll give her the option of retirement or being prosecuted for insubordination and conduct detrimental to the chain of command.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 08, 2025 04:14 PM (ExV1e)
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Sounds like the options are retire with rank or get busted down and retire at the lower rank with lower retirement pay and benefits.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 08, 2025 04:16 PM (tT6L1)

215

Check that assholes bank account.

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at April 08, 2025 04:16 PM (et1vG)

216 The cdc list of recommended vaccines seems to have grown exponentially since my kids were born
Posted by: LASue at April 08, 2025 04:13 PM (6Brfa)

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Whatever they paid the politicians to get on the schedule they got back 1000 fold.

Posted by: Seems Legit at April 08, 2025 04:16 PM (PMtkd)

217
The left, while raging about Musk and defacing Tesla's, will defend this unelected bureaucrat who has actually committed damage against the American people.
Posted by: Cheri

Right.
Their fake "signalgate" hoax failed, and they won't even acknowledge THIS is 1000X worse.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 04:16 PM (u+yWI)

218 The group that still pushes people to say "No GMO food" and a lot of them were cozy with the skipping vaccines because autism when it was AWLF wine moms not vaccinating their spawn, then dragging their spawn to a 3rd world country to expand their minds and bringing home a measles outbreak are now pushing the not well tested covid vaccine and also suddenly have decided that infants need to get ALL the shots.

Its so weird to me. I know they almost all let the FNM and SM tell them who the enemy is, but I still cannot grok not going WTH? when the FNM does a 180 shift on something like the vaccines.

Posted by: PaleRider at April 08, 2025 04:16 PM (CKOCg)

219 200
ellen page: I feel like a man because I can step out of the shower with a towel around my waist.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 04:13 PM

I am pretty sure she could also do that pre-surgery.

OTH, I did think she was a cute female.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 08, 2025 04:16 PM (Q4Dc6)

220 "It will be taken out of context!" is one of their favorite lies.

It's also completely irrelevant. I'm free to misuse my money any damn way I see fit. It's the same with government-sponsored data. It's ours and we, through our duly elected president and his appointees, can do anything we want done with it.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 08, 2025 04:16 PM (xCA6C)

221 >>>Dr. Peter Marks has a fetish or a few. Look at him. That guy likes something not right.
Posted by: Seems Legit

Probably has something to do with lab equipment.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 08, 2025 04:09 PM (/U5Yz)

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*Howard Wolowttz has entered the chat.

Posted by: Turn 2 at April 08, 2025 04:17 PM (EEXm4)

222 5 Marks is highly regarded by former FDA leaders and biotech industry executives

That list would be useful...
Posted by: t-bird at April 08, 2025 03:43 PM (KBQMF)

Exactly. Go Pierre Poilievre on them. Exactly which former leaders and biotech industry executives? And aren't the left not enamored with big Pharma and all of the money they make off of poor, sick people? Why is their regard something to praise Marks for?

Posted by: Virginia SoCon at April 08, 2025 04:17 PM (a/dOO)

223 Surely there is a crying need for an accurate census of penguins on Adak?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

THE PENGUIN HORDE CRIES OUT

Posted by: Miklos, Friend of All Noble Penguin Peoples at April 08, 2025 04:17 PM (RgW1J)

224 Otherwise they'll find something for her to do.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 08, 2025 03:58 PM (ExV1e)

Surely there is a crying need for an accurate census of penguins on Adak?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 08, 2025 04:14 PM (8zz6B)

Results: 0.

Penguins are Antarctic things

Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 04:17 PM (n7h9X)

225 Dod/CIA firing announced,

"According to Breitbart News, Terry Adirim, a senior CIA official and former Defense Department official under Joe Biden, was fired last week.

Adirim was fired for her role in mandating military members to either take the jab or be forced out.

Breitbart previously reported on Adirim’s memo in forcing servicemembers to take a vaccine that was not FDA approved."

Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 04:17 PM (ctrM5)

226 It's more difficult to get rid of a flag rank officer than your general O-3 type. Usual method is to put them in some boring staff assignment in the ass end of nowhere and let them wither.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at April 08, 2025 04:02 PM (YnIVK)

Yeah, but she wasn't relieved for incompetence, she was relieved for violations of the UCMJ. An enlisted person would get fucked in the ass over it, she should get smacked around... or permitted to retire.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 08, 2025 04:17 PM (ExV1e)

227 ellen page: I feel like a man because I can step out of the shower with a towel around my waist.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 04:13 PM (u+yWI)

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This made me wonder why Donald Duck wraps a towel around himself after a shower but he walks around normally without pants.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at April 08, 2025 04:18 PM (64qRd)

228 The Left really does believe DC is theirs and they're allowed do anything in the service of that.

If there's any group doesn't respect democracy and the transfer of power, its liberals.

Posted by: Leupold at April 08, 2025 04:18 PM (4pwAx)

229
"Why wouldn't we? Because frankly we don't trust (them)," he said, using a profanity. "They'd write over it or erase the whole database."

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This is eerily similar to the response of Phil Jones of the Climate Research Unit to an FOIA request for raw climate data: "Why should we give the data to you, when you're just going to try something wrong with it?"

Thus began Climategate.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at April 08, 2025 04:18 PM (dtlw7)

230 Cleveland home opener starts shortly. 32 degrees at game time, but the Global Warming was cleared from the field, so there is that at least.

Maybe MLB should consider a shorter season, starting in late April.
Posted by: Propaganda Press Explainer at April 08, 2025 04:06 PM (7RUmD)

And knock it off with the interleague play nonsense. Get rid of the designated hitter. No camera replays, no pitch clock. Hell, they could even get rid of the playoffs.

MBGA!

But they won't.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 08, 2025 04:18 PM (dGCAG)

231
OTH, I did think she was a cute female.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot

She still is.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 04:18 PM (uxDCI)

232 At this point...which dumb bureaucrat thinks it's a good idea to make a show of being resistance?

It seems like there's...a shocking number of them.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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When you are standing on the gallows, you have little to lose by trying to kick the hangman in the balls.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 08, 2025 04:18 PM (XeU6L)

233 Surely there is a crying need for an accurate census of penguins on Adak?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

THE PENGUIN HORDE CRIES OUT

Posted by: Miklos, Friend of All Noble Penguin Peoples at April 08, 2025 04:17 PM

Psst., there are no penguins on Adak Alaska. I would have seen them the four years I was stationed there.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 08, 2025 04:20 PM (e5NfL)

234 Yeah, but she wasn't relieved for incompetence, she was relieved for violations of the UCMJ. An enlisted person would get fucked in the ass over it, she should get smacked around... or permitted to retire.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 08, 2025 04:17 PM (ExV1e)

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Point taken.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at April 08, 2025 04:20 PM (64qRd)

235 Remember we know from the DoD leak in 2021 that by then the DoD knew:

The clot shot does nothing positive
COVID came from the Wuhan lab
IVM is effective if given early

Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2025 04:20 PM (t0Rmr)

236 I think RFK Jr. said he's looking into the vaccine schedule. I seem to recall getting my vaccines when I was in elementary school,. Whereas I think vaccines are currently given to newborns or, at least, that's when they start with vaccinations.

So, I wonder if RFK Jr is thinking along the lines it's not so much the vaccine as when the vaccines are administered.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 08, 2025 04:06 PM (tT6L1)

You got five or 10 vaccines, unless you went overseas or in the military

They are giving 30 by the age of 4, now.

Posted by: Total professional medical professional who has a professional interest in your health at April 08, 2025 04:20 PM (D7oie)

237 I found M4GWs Frozen Wasteland and Climate Gate.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 08, 2025 04:20 PM (+nKhw)

238 This made me wonder why Donald Duck wraps a towel around himself after a shower but he walks around normally without pants.
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Being the shower caused me to have an erection. My duck penis, is enormous when tumescent. When flaccid it conceals neatly under my feathers.

Posted by: Donald Duck at April 08, 2025 04:20 PM (5RbTe)

239 I do think there are things to split ideologically.

Like, open borders can be a tenet of libertarianism. Free trade between nations can be a tenet of libertarianism. But...what if the primary concern is organization of a nation, not a planet?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 04:15 PM (GBKbO)

Not if they believe in property rights they can't. Just extend personal property rights to the sum of the citizen's own property rights.

If they don't believe in property rights the no force rule kills the philosophy as soon as someone finds you left home for a nanosecond.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 04:20 PM (n7h9X)

240 You can get a 5TB USB drive that fits in your pocket for about $90 at Costco during a frequent promotion. Nothing was stopping this guy from keeping his own copy of the database and multiple backups if he truly believed there was risk of malevolent alterations of the records.

Likewise, he could have given Read Only access to the data base. A considerable number of people in the agency likely already have it and adding another such account should take just a few minutes.

So, I question his veracity.

Posted by: Epobirs at April 08, 2025 04:20 PM (/0z9K)

241 >>>And knock it off with the interleague play nonsense. Get rid of the designated hitter. No camera replays, no pitch clock. Hell, they could even get rid of the playoffs.

MBGA!

But they won't.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 08, 2025 04:18 PM (dGCAG)

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I'd add getting rid of the strike zone box on the screen.

Posted by: Turn 2 at April 08, 2025 04:21 PM (EEXm4)

242 When you are standing on the gallows, you have little to lose by trying to kick the hangman in the balls.
Posted by: Mike Hammer

Short drop v. Long drop

Posted by: Miklos, begging to differ at April 08, 2025 04:21 PM (RgW1J)

243 When you are standing on the gallows, you have little to lose by trying to kick the hangman in the balls.
Posted by: Mike Hammer

Yes you do. Painful death versus a swift one. A simple adjustment to a hangman's noose causes strangulation as cause of death rather than snapping the spinal cord cleanly. Pretty gruesome tales of past days when the hangman was incompetent or malicious.

Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 04:21 PM (ctrM5)

244 I've a few years on you and remember the same. And yeah, we all managed to survive, too.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 08, 2025 04:14 PM (tT6L1)
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Survivorship bias. I grew up without wearing a seatbelt and lived. Doesn't mean they don't help save lives. Also means a lot of people who didn't wear them died. They just aren't around to talk about it anymore.

Even Kennedy is saying the MMR vaccine works.

Is there a risk, of course. But weigh it against the risk of having you or your child developing measles and being one of the unlucky ones who develops pneumonia or worse.

Autism? Been around forever. We have just gotten better at diagnosing it. And a lot of times the symptoms arise the same time kids are getting vaccines. Correlation does not equal causation.

Posted by: Troofer at April 08, 2025 04:21 PM (ASvvW)

245 I think RFK Jr. said he's looking into the vaccine schedule.

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Fantastic!

I think they are giving HPV vax to newborns or something.

Posted by: runner at April 08, 2025 04:21 PM (g47mK)

246 Hoyt linked an article at Instapundit this morning on the polio vaccine being worse than worthless. DDT blamed as the real cause of polio. FWIW:

https://tinyurl.com/bdfbwmcv

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at April 08, 2025 04:21 PM (Dm8we)

247 VAERS is just a bunch of anecdotal hysterical crackpottery from anti-vax nutballs.

Posted by: Things I learned here, oddly enough at April 08, 2025 04:21 PM (TbWk/)

248 Is the clot shot still under emergency authorization?

Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2025 04:22 PM (t0Rmr)

249 I suspect the USN is not much different.
Posted by: Suspicious Miklos

Navy Admiral Shoshana Chatfield, representative to NATO's military committee has been fired. Apparently Shoshana Dingleberry was still riding the DEI train and what she was saying to her staff got out. But...but...she was a helicopter pilot and the first woman in this position...tough shit. Either follow the CIC's orders or walk the plank.

Posted by: Cheri at April 08, 2025 04:22 PM (oiNtH)

250
Her interview is really bad, though. It's hard to watch because she's so stupid and such a bad liar.

She got a haircut, and had a mastectomy OR she takes drugs to reduce estrogen and that flattened her already-tiny breasts. But I do not believe she had any surgery on her puss.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 04:22 PM (NtLXJ)

251 I think he just wants to be retired. He does have his military pension and some VA money, so there's that.
Posted by: Jordan61 at April 08, 2025 04:01 PM (DRSnL)

Party at Jordan's!

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 08, 2025 04:22 PM (qGadR)

252 210 Ellen Page was passed around like a joint while working in Hollywood.

So becoming a man, in her mind, protects her from that happening again.

However as many young men in Hollywood can attest...it doesn't.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2025 04:15 PM

Someone in Hollywood actually groped Terry Crews.

I suspect he was too shocked to respond appropriately.

I wish he had punched somebody so hard that it induced a serious brain bleed. News of that outcome would have certainly modified some behaviors in Hollywood to be better.

Also - any father beating a producer senseless after repeatedly sexually assaulting his actress daughter.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 08, 2025 04:22 PM (Q4Dc6)

253 Why would a duck need a shower?

And Goofy owned a freaking dog!!!!

Posted by: eleven at April 08, 2025 04:22 PM (0HaGk)

254 The vaccine schedule is closely related to big pharma lobbyists and their ability to pay (or later employ with a hefty salary) those who work for the CDC/FDA/Congress.

Posted by: Seems Legit at April 08, 2025 04:23 PM (PMtkd)

255 "Why wouldn't we? Because frankly we don't trust (them)," he said, using a profanity. "They'd write over it or erase the whole database."
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There's probably a non-zero chance this (using a profanity) and its ilk happened to also write over the data in the past.

There are temperature reports from temperature stations that literally do not exist. At one time they did, but they're gone. And, somehow, we still have temperature numbers from them.

Scientists have been known to fudge or even make up numbers. "Hide The Decline", after all.

Posted by: Another Anon at April 08, 2025 04:23 PM (4h45B)

256 Cleveland home opener starts shortly. 32 degrees at game time, but the Global Warming was cleared from the field, so there is that at least.
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Spring time in Cleveland. When you only have to wear one pair of long underwear to go see a game.

Posted by: F me. You have to be a FAN to be a Cleveland fan at April 08, 2025 04:23 PM (5RbTe)

257 Surely there is a crying need for an accurate census of penguins on Adak?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Psst., there are no penguins on Adak Alaska. I would have seen them the four years I was stationed there.
Posted by: Mister Scott

KEEP LOOKING, SAILOR!

Posted by: Miklos, seeing additional upside at April 08, 2025 04:23 PM (RgW1J)

258
Someone in Hollywood actually groped Terry Crews.

Brendan Frasier was one of the top actors in Hollywood...but when he complained about a male producer grouping him his career was cancelled...

Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2025 04:23 PM (t0Rmr)

259 I do think there are things to split ideologically.

Like, open borders can be a tenet of libertarianism. Free trade between nations can be a tenet of libertarianism. But...what if the primary concern is organization of a nation, not a planet?

And yes, I understand the general uselessness of the LP and its different forms over the past 15 years or so. It's never going to be a powerful organization in America because when it's controlled by actual libertarians, they fail to actually organize. When it's co-opted, it becomes a joke. Well, a different kind of joke.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 04:15 PM (GBKbO)

Not really. The LP has as its goal, influence. Not winning elections, and I think 2024 was the most influential they've ever been.

Trump went to them. Guys like RFK and Vivek went to them, and dialogue was had.

When it comes to open borders, most real libertarians these days come down on the side of property rights over open borders. As in, if you want to cross the border, you can't be a drain on society, that's a violation of property rights. So you should stay home... unless you can pay your way.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 08, 2025 04:24 PM (dGCAG)

260 Cleveland home opener starts shortly. 32 degrees at game time, but the Global Warming was cleared from the field, so there is that at least.

Maybe MLB should consider a shorter season, starting in late April.
Posted by: Propaganda Press Explainer at April 08, 2025 04:06 PM (7RUmD)

And knock it off with the interleague play nonsense. Get rid of the designated hitter. No camera replays, no pitch clock. Hell, they could even get rid of the playoffs.

MBGA!

But they won't.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 08, 2025 04:18 PM (dGCAG)

moar doubleheaders are the solution - bargains for the thrifty fan, less travel, makes teams have to have more depth, shortens season. You could let teams call up minor leaguers for them.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 04:24 PM (n7h9X)

261 Dr. Marks and many other medical and public health professionals who have no role anymore in an authoritarian and dumbed-down U.S. should consider relocating to Canada. We are peaceful, democratic and believe in evidence based medicine.

I will miss them. But, yes, they should go to Canada or another civilized nation. Their wisdom can still benefit humanity even though the U.S. is lost.

So true. America is self-destructing all around us and any professionals with intelligence and morals should jump on the next plane and fly north. Better to do it fast before Trump arrests them all or removes their licences to practice freely.

I fear for the next pandemic type problem coming to the US as we are unprepared if our best scientists are leaving because of Trump administration policies.

Posted by: Intercepted X Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at April 08, 2025 04:24 PM (JCZqz)

262 I am not a fan of tyre irons, way too American. I however, subscribe to the concept of applying lump hammers to this waste of oxygen.
Posted by: NZFrank
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Okay...I have to ask, what is a 'lump hammer'. Do they require a license?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 08, 2025 04:24 PM (XeU6L)

263 Cleveland should light the river to stay warm.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 08, 2025 04:24 PM (+nKhw)

264 221 >>>Dr. Peter Marks has a fetish or a few. Look at him. That guy likes something not right.
Posted by: Seems Legit

Probably has something to do with lab equipment.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 08, 2025 04:09 PM (/U5Yz)

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*Howard Wolowttz has entered the chat.
Posted by: Turn 2

I've seen him looking at those beakers in a strange way.

Posted by: Lab Rat at April 08, 2025 04:25 PM (/U5Yz)

265 I'm not sure when I got all my various vaccines. But I probably got at least 10. When I went to kollige they pushed to redo the Whooping cough + whatever so I did. And I still have my smallpox scar. I think ND had vaccines after most states had quit giving it so they figured may as well be sure their future citizens were protected.

Posted by: PaleRider at April 08, 2025 04:25 PM (CKOCg)

266 "Why wouldn't we? Because frankly we don't trust (them)," he said, using a profanity. "They'd write over it or erase the whole database."
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I've seen this dweeb on TV. He could not swear convincingly. He only uses such language because he thinks it adds to his testosterone level.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 08, 2025 04:25 PM (tT6L1)

267 239 I do think there are things to split ideologically.

Like, open borders can be a tenet of libertarianism. Free trade between nations can be a tenet of libertarianism. But...what if the primary concern is organization of a nation, not a planet?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Principles per se as rules become utopian by nature. Framers were pragmatists because all of them had governing experience when they wrote the Constitution.

Political theorists, by and large, never had actual responsibility for governance which is why they spend more time on justifications if in power than on actual fixing the damage. Lenin wrote a lot about Marxism that he had to swallow whole when actually trying to run things in the USSR. Marx, Rousseau, even Locke, never ran much of anything of note and it shows.

Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 04:25 PM (ctrM5)

268 All hammers are lump hammers.

Posted by: eleven at April 08, 2025 04:25 PM (0HaGk)

269 Someone in Hollywood actually groped Terry Crews.

Brendan Frasier was one of the top actors in Hollywood...but when he complained about a male producer grouping him his career was cancelled...
Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2025 04:23 PM (t0Rmr)

except for the Academy award he got not too long ago...

Posted by: It's me donna at April 08, 2025 04:25 PM (VE6XX)

270
I fear for the next pandemic type problem coming to the US as we are unprepared if our best scientists are leaving because of Trump administration policies.
Posted by: Intercepted X Transmissions
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Probably could sign on at the Wuhan lab.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 08, 2025 04:26 PM (XeU6L)

271 In 2016 it appeared to be the Libertarian Party's moment. We were in Obama's permanent recession and the Republicans had gone and nominated some reality TV star...

And the LP put up Gary Aleppo Johnson and William Hic Welds, the latter being the least libertarian politician running for Veep that year..

What a joke.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2025 04:26 PM (t0Rmr)

272 262 I am not a fan of tyre irons, way too American. I however, subscribe to the concept of applying lump hammers to this waste of oxygen.
Posted by: NZFrank

I would think you would be more of a Rule 303 guy.

Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 04:26 PM (ctrM5)

273 I've never had a flu vax. And I've never had the flu.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 08, 2025 04:07 PM (pohLc)

That does not surprise me. Whenever an acquaintance comes down with flu, they always say the same thing: "But I got my flu shot!"

Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at April 08, 2025 04:26 PM (Sf2cq)

274 Or, he implies that adverse reactions can be deleted from the database. I wonder what vaxx info might have that done by a fascist piece of dog shit technocrat wanna be?

Just a thought. Apropos of nothing.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 08, 2025 04:26 PM (8HNt+)

275 Cleveland should light the river to stay warm.
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WE TRIED THAT ALREADY. BUT THE SMELL REMINDED US OF PITTSBURG SO WE PUT IT OUT.

Posted by: ALL.CAPS. GET IT? at April 08, 2025 04:26 PM (5RbTe)

276 246 Hoyt linked an article at Instapundit this morning on the polio vaccine being worse than worthless. DDT blamed as the real cause of polio. FWIW:

https://tinyurl.com/bdfbwmcv
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at April 08, 2025 04:21 PM (Dm8we)

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If you dig even a little bit below the surface you find that the polio vaccine is absolute shit.

They STILL use polio as a scare tactic to push the polio vaccine and others.

Children do not need a polio vaccine.

Posted by: Seems Legit at April 08, 2025 04:27 PM (PMtkd)

277 He’s hiding the days for our own good. Nothing nefarious about his actions. If he were in England he would be knighted. S he is American he will be rewarded with a high paying no job in big pharma and a money laundering book deal.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable at April 08, 2025 04:27 PM (17s+e)

278 272 262 I am not a fan of tyre irons, way too American. I however, subscribe to the concept of applying lump hammers to this waste of oxygen.
Posted by: NZFrank

I would think you would be more of a Rule 303 guy.
Posted by: whig

Pulaski tool.

Posted by: Lab Rat at April 08, 2025 04:27 PM (/U5Yz)

279
I fear for the next pandemic type problem coming to the US as we are unprepared if our best scientists are leaving because of Trump administration policies.
Posted by: Intercepted X Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at April 08, 2025 04:24 PM (JCZqz)
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Only the insane believe the COVID reaction by our government was a roaring success.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 08, 2025 04:27 PM (tT6L1)

280 Why would a duck need a shower?

And Goofy owned a freaking dog!!!!
Posted by: eleven at April 08, 2025 04:22 PM (0HaGk)

I heard an explanation that Goofy was a Man-Dog and Pluto was just a Dog. We need more cartoon taxonomy.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 04:27 PM (n7h9X)

281 Of all vocations that require trust and integrity as a lynchpin to their effectiveness, medicine probably tops the list.

And yet, between the two (Kennedy and Marks) I'd have to say that Kennedy holds a higher level of trust and integrity (despite his quirks and overtly wearing the label of politician) than this "expert" in vaccines. That's disturbing.

Posted by: Orson at April 08, 2025 04:27 PM (dIske)

282 except for the Academy award he got not too long ago...

Note the 15 year gap in his Hollywood acting roles.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2025 04:27 PM (t0Rmr)

283 And knock it off with the interleague play nonsense. Get rid of the designated hitter. No camera replays, no pitch clock. Hell, they could even get rid of the playoffs.

MBGA!

But they won't.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 08, 2025 04:18 PM (dGCAG)

Make the bases the proper size again.

Posted by: BruceWayne at April 08, 2025 04:27 PM (MGB5H)

284 I've never got the flu shot, but have had the flu of course.

Meh.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 08, 2025 04:27 PM (8HNt+)

285 Lump hammer is similar to what we call an engineer's hammer.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 08, 2025 04:27 PM (+nKhw)

286 Penguins are Antarctic things
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 04:17 PM (n7h9X)

Keep looking. They are very clever at disguising themselves.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 08, 2025 04:28 PM (8zz6B)

287 i BE GOTS THE covid vACCERINE about 15 times ands only gos it 6 times in the past 3 yeers.

So it be works and peeple needs to stop lying about the shot./..

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vt at April 08, 2025 04:28 PM (houUd)

288 The dire wolf is back. Goblins will no longer have to raid on foot.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 08, 2025 04:29 PM (+nKhw)

289 222 5 Marks is highly regarded by former FDA leaders and biotech industry executives

That list would be useful...
Posted by: t-bird at April 08, 2025 03:43 PM (KBQMF)

Exactly. Go Pierre Poilievre on them. Exactly which former leaders and biotech industry executives? And aren't the left not enamored with big Pharma and all of the money they make off of poor, sick people? Why is their regard something to praise Marks for?
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at April 08, 2025 04:17 PM (a/dOO)

I've been thinking about Unlucky Pierre lately. He was on a glide-path to becoming the next PM until the tariffs breathed new life into Labour - just what the leftists at the CBC et al were waiting for. Is there any pathway for Poilievre to beat Carney right now? He had to thread a fine line between agreeing with Trump and standing up for Canada - a tough one for even the most talented politicians, of which Pierre is a pretty good one.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 08, 2025 04:29 PM (V1Js5)

290
Agree or Disagree?

MLB should allow a Designated Hitler.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 04:29 PM (UyNz8)

291 Did I mention I got fact checked by Facebook for linking that Rogan podcast with that doctor who questions pretty much all vaccines?

I loled.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 08, 2025 04:29 PM (8HNt+)

292 Sounds like the options are retire with rank or get busted down and retire at the lower rank with lower retirement pay and benefits.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 08, 2025 04:16 PM (tT6L1)

The tricky part is that she's a 3 star but that's a recent thing. She can retire as a 2 star, or get busted.

She'd be an idiot to fight it. Retire. Become a politician and run and as anti-orangeman lesbian veteran.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 08, 2025 04:29 PM (ExV1e)

293 > Someone in Hollywood actually groped Terry Crews.

Adam Venit, agent for William Morris Endeavor.

> I suspect he was too shocked to respond appropriately.

He was shocked, but Crews claimed his reason for inaction was his fear of being cast on the news as a violent black man who attacked a Hollywood agent. Crews went the legal route, which didn't work out for him.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 08, 2025 04:29 PM (lIio7)

294 Posted by: NZFrank

I would think you would be more of a Rule 303 guy.
Posted by: whig

I liked that movie.

Guy got a raw deal.

Posted by: Breaker Miklos Morant at April 08, 2025 04:29 PM (RgW1J)

295 Agree or Disagree?

MLB should allow a Designated Hitler.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 04:29 PM (UyNz

Nein!

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 08, 2025 04:29 PM (qGadR)

296 259 When it comes to open borders, most real libertarians these days come down on the side of property rights over open borders. As in, if you want to cross the border, you can't be a drain on society, that's a violation of property rights. So you should stay home... unless you can pay your way.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 08, 2025 04:24 PM (dGCAG)

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Ah, no True ~~Scotsman~~ libertarian thinks like that.

You see, I think there's room for a split on that, because I can assure you that there are libertarians who think that any limitation on human movement through man-made borders is wrong. That base assumption, especially when you have these real world concerns of, "Well, the welfare state isn't going anywhere," marks an ideological barrier within the movement called libertarianism that feels rather large.

Hence...a potential need to split the movement on those lines. I'm just choosing the open borders issue as my example (anyone can choose any issue), but I think there are fissures within the movement that could benefit from just...kicking some people out, refusing the label "libertarian" and go with "national libertarian" vs. "international libertarian".

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 04:30 PM (GBKbO)

297 I've never had a flu shot and never had the flu.

*crosses fingers*

Posted by: Seems Legit at April 08, 2025 04:30 PM (PMtkd)

298 261 Dr. Marks and many other medical and public health professionals who have no role anymore in an authoritarian and dumbed-down U.S. should consider relocating to Canada. We are peaceful, democratic and believe in evidence based medicine.

Posted by: Intercepted X Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at April 08, 2025 04:24 PM (JCZqz)

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"Also, we want to assassinate Elon Musk and Donald Trump."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 04:30 PM (GBKbO)

299 Entschludigung Sie bitte?

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 08, 2025 04:30 PM (+nKhw)

300 246 Hoyt linked an article at Instapundit this morning on the polio vaccine being worse than worthless. DDT blamed as the real cause of polio. FWIW:

https://tinyurl.com/bdfbwmcv
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at April 08, 2025 04:21 PM (Dm8we)

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If you dig even a little bit below the surface you find that the polio vaccine is absolute shit.

They STILL use polio as a scare tactic to push the polio vaccine and others.

Children do not need a polio vaccine.
Posted by: Seems Legit at April 08, 2025 04:27 PM (PMtkd)

Polio apparently is known of in ancient writing and images. DDT was invented in 1874 and was only used massively in WWII and after. A little sus.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 04:30 PM (n7h9X)

301 Agree or Disagree?

MLB should allow a Designated Hitler.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 04:29 PM (UyNz

OH HELL NO!

Posted by: pookysgirl, National League fan at April 08, 2025 04:31 PM (Wt5PA)

302 Hubbymayhem asked if I wanted to go to Wal-Mart with him. I've been to two different Wal-Mart stores in the last two days and I don't want to go back to either of them. I also don't want to put on pants.

Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at April 08, 2025 04:31 PM (2J/Lj)

303 >>>would think you would be more of a Rule 303 guy.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 04:26 PM (ctrM5)

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Rule 303. Hmm, I learn something new every day.

Posted by: Turn 2 at April 08, 2025 04:31 PM (EEXm4)

304 Dr. Marks and many other medical and public health professionals who have no role anymore in an authoritarian and dumbed-down U.S. should consider relocating to Canada. We are peaceful, democratic and believe in evidence based medicine.

Posted by: Intercepted X Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at April 08, 2025 04:24 PM (JCZqz)

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"Also, we want to assassinate Elon Musk and Donald Trump."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 04:30 PM (GBKbO)

We also believed in assisted suicide if you get sick and we don't feel like healing you....

Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 04:31 PM (n7h9X)

305 Entschludigung Sie bitte?
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 08, 2025 04:30 PM (+nKhw)

Would you excuse me?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 08, 2025 04:32 PM (8HNt+)

306 And knock it off with the interleague play nonsense. Get rid of the designated hitter. No camera replays, no pitch clock. Hell, they could even get rid of the playoffs.

MBGA!

But they won't.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 08, 2025 04:18 PM (dGCAG)
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The pitch clock has actually been a real good change. The DH is something I would love to see gone, it made a pitcher who could handle a bat more useful.

Posted by: Black JEM at April 08, 2025 04:32 PM (GZYu7)

307
Anyway, Ellen Page's interview was so feminine that she's getting roasted on twitter, and Riley Gaines tweeted: Um, men don't act like this.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 04:32 PM (UyNz8)

308 RFK's problem is that no one takes him seriously. Get some tactical gear and a Barrett, maybe some hair extensions, and get in front of a camera, man!

Posted by: Kristy Noem at April 08, 2025 04:32 PM (paSBy)

309 Oh, please added on at the end.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 08, 2025 04:32 PM (8HNt+)

310 I recently learned about "The Demon Core", I also learned a little more about scientists. Not good.

Posted by: Francis at April 08, 2025 04:32 PM (bbuBP)

311 What has Amy Coney Barrett done now?

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at April 08, 2025 04:32 PM (kTd/k)

312 >>>Her interview is really bad, though. It's hard to watch because she's so stupid and such a bad liar.

She got a haircut, and had a mastectomy OR she takes drugs to reduce estrogen and that flattened her already-tiny breasts. But I do not believe she had any surgery on her puss.

Posted by: Soothsayer

>You've piqued my interest in your newsletter.

Posted by: Rev Wishbone at April 08, 2025 04:32 PM (fY84s)

313 Only the insane believe the COVID reaction by our government was a roaring success.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker

It was a disaster and Trump got millions of people killed through his incompetence and tanked the economy unnecessarily. But we also need to keep all the government expert and businesses who worked on the vaccine and told Trump what to do, because they're doing Gaia's work and saving millions of lives.

Posted by: Intercepted X Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at April 08, 2025 04:33 PM (JCZqz)

314 I would like to be able to purchase DDT. Dust the entire estate but good. That and chlordane.

Posted by: Lab Rat at April 08, 2025 04:33 PM (/U5Yz)

315 You know who else had a designated Hitler?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 08, 2025 04:33 PM (qGadR)

316 Agree or Disagree?

MLB should allow a Designated Hitler.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 04:29 PM (UyNz

OH HELL NO!
Posted by: pookysgirl, National League fan at April 08, 2025 04:31 PM (Wt5PA)

Annexing the Suedetenland is part of every pregame show.

Did you know the first alternate major league came because MLB banned beer and whiskey sales at games?

Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 04:33 PM (n7h9X)

317 >> Ellen Page's interview

That was painful to watch. That poor girl.

Posted by: garrett at April 08, 2025 04:33 PM (F30Ty)

318 And knock it off with the interleague play nonsense. Get rid of the designated hitter. No camera replays, no pitch clock. Hell, they could even get rid of the playoffs.

MBGA!

But they won't.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 08, 2025 04:18 PM (dGCAG

Oh and the 3 batter rule.

Posted by: BruceWayne at April 08, 2025 04:33 PM (MGB5H)

319 Putting the DH in both leagues homogenizes baseball, which is dreck.

Keep "Pitcher Hits" in the senior league and the DH in the AL.

Ground rules are a thing. Every ballpark has slightly different ground rules. The DH/Pitcher Hits is the ultimate ground rule.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 08, 2025 04:33 PM (tT6L1)

320 Its so weird to me. I know they almost all let the FNM and SM tell them who the enemy is, but I still cannot grok not going WTH? when the FNM does a 180 shift on something like the vaccines.
Posted by: PaleRider at April 08, 2025 04:16 PM (CKOCg)

Did you ever read 1984? Think about how they reacted. No one found that believable and, yet, here we are.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 08, 2025 04:34 PM (ExV1e)

321 I do think there are things to split ideologically.

Like, open borders can be a tenet of libertarianism. Free trade between nations can be a tenet of libertarianism. But...what if the primary concern is organization of a nation, not a planet?

[ . . . ]
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 04:15 PM (GBKbO)

There is a split though, Murray Rothbard came to the conclusion that unrestricted borders was a problem, and in many ways got tossed out of the party for it.
the major split is between the Pragmatist (Jorgenson, Oliver) and the Mises caucus. Mises caucus is more socialy conservative, controlled borders, self determination, and fight about agorism and minarchy, and the Pragmatists are from the point of view that most of the Radical Democrat ideas are best if only we did them through volunteerism.

Mises caucus looks to Rothbard since he had more responsibility than most anyone in establishing the LP

Posted by: Total professional medical professional who has a professional interest in your health at April 08, 2025 04:34 PM (D7oie)

322 >>MLB should allow a Designated Hitler.

And women should get the Vote...

wait.

Posted by: garrett at April 08, 2025 04:34 PM (F30Ty)

323 With the current daycare reality kids probably do need to be vaccinated earlier than in the 60s. But that does not mean that they need 30 shots by age 4. Some middle ground probably makes sense.

Polio. I read 20-30 years ago that there is a killed virus version and a weakened virus version. and at least some of the TPTB push the more dangerous weakened virus version because that extends coverage to the unvaccinated. I never had kids but if I had done you can bet I'd have been demanding the doctor order the killed virus polio shot for my precious spawn vs the whatever fractional percent risk just to protect other kids, grizzly bear momma mode and not just Karen.

Posted by: PaleRider at April 08, 2025 04:34 PM (CKOCg)

324 The pitch clock has actually been a real good change. The DH is something I would love to see gone, it made a pitcher who could handle a bat more useful.
Posted by: Black JEM at April 08, 2025 04:32 PM (GZYu7)

The dh greatly reduces strategy and the need for a bench, the double switch.

Posted by: BruceWayne at April 08, 2025 04:34 PM (MGB5H)

325
PDT just now: CA is doing a terrible job (on energy).

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 04:34 PM (jsyju)

326 Polio apparently is known of in ancient writing and images. DDT was invented in 1874 and was only used massively in WWII and after. A little sus.
Posted by: Oldcat
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They acknowledge that. I think they were blaming DDT for a noted increase in cases during its use.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at April 08, 2025 04:34 PM (Dm8we)

327 I've never had a flu shot and never had the flu.

*crosses fingers*
Posted by: Seems Legit

I've had some Bourbon and got the Whisky Flu.

With additional symptoms of Rockin' Pneumonia and Boogie-Woogie influenza.

Posted by: Miklos recovered every time at April 08, 2025 04:35 PM (RgW1J)

328 stupid sock

Posted by: Kindltot - eight furry chickens in white wine at April 08, 2025 04:35 PM (D7oie)

329 > If you dig even a little bit below the surface you find that the polio vaccine is absolute shit.

Can you give more info. From what I've seen, the Inactivated Polio Vaccine series is supposedly 99% effective. Polio is basically gone where the vaccine is in common use.

I met someone on my mission who had bad Polio as a kid. One leg was several inches shorter than the other. It wasn't his leg that troubled him the most. It was his skull. He couldn't read small print at all. He couldn't read more than a few dozen words in large print before he had a huge headache. The man was permanently disabled. Polio suuuuucks.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 08, 2025 04:35 PM (lIio7)

330 Anyway, Ellen Page's interview was so feminine that she's getting roasted on twitter, and Riley Gaines tweeted: Um, men don't act like this.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 04:32 PM (UyNz

Yikes. Chick's on the ledge already. No need to give her a shove.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 08, 2025 04:35 PM (qGadR)

331 I dimly seem to remember hearing about a similar adverse reporting system serving the DOD, where it appeared the data had been “lost” then sloppily manipulated to cover covid vaccine adverse events.

Posted by: Steeldoc at April 08, 2025 04:35 PM (e7Hem)

332 Any form of weed killer like Round Up is now useless.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 08, 2025 04:35 PM (/U5Yz)

333 The pitch clock has actually been a real good change. The DH is something I would love to see gone, it made a pitcher who could handle a bat more useful.
Posted by: Black JEM at April 08, 2025 04:32 PM (GZYu7)

In the old old days you pitched quicker so your team would be on their toes, and because your game ended when it got dark.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 04:35 PM (n7h9X)

334 I recently learned about "The Demon Core", I also learned a little more about scientists. Not good.
Posted by: Francis at April 08, 2025 04:32 PM (bbuBP)

The demon core is a good example that no matter how smart and talented you are, you can still fall prey to not respecting the shit you are working with.

FAFO is not just for the bar and politics.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 08, 2025 04:35 PM (8HNt+)

335 330 Yikes. Chick's on the ledge already. No need to give her a shove.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 08, 2025 04:35 PM (qGadR)

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She put herself on the edge and then demanded attention.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 04:35 PM (GBKbO)

336 anyhow, for so many people "Libertarian party" means "others who compete with my party" and don't much care other than to call them stoners and schismatics.

Posted by: Kindltot - eight furry chickens in white wine at April 08, 2025 04:36 PM (D7oie)

337 RFK's problem is that no one takes him seriously. Get some tactical gear and a Barrett, maybe some hair extensions, and get in front of a camera, man!
Posted by: Kristy Noem at April 08, 2025 04:32 PM (paSBy)
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I hate to say it, but the GI Jane look works pretty well on you. Lose the inflated lips though. You don't need them.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 08, 2025 04:36 PM (tT6L1)

338 >>>The pitch clock has actually been a real good change. The DH is something I would love to see gone, it made a pitcher who could handle a bat more useful.
Posted by: Black JEM at April 08, 2025 04:32 PM (GZYu7)

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The problem with the DH is that they won't eliminate it in the minors. That means the last time an MLB pitcher swung a bat was likely in HS. Though Maddux was willing to put in the time to at least learn how to bunt. And I do miss the double switch.

Posted by: Turn 2 at April 08, 2025 04:36 PM (EEXm4)

339 Want to know the real fear? That RFK jr. will publish what's in the database.

Posted by: El Mariachi at April 08, 2025 04:36 PM (D1vbu)

340 Oh and the 3 batter rule.
Posted by: BruceWayne at April 08, 2025 04:33 PM (MGB5H)

Pancake, Waffle, and Bread?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 08, 2025 04:36 PM (VNX3d)

341 They need the pitch clock and only one chance to step out of the box for batters.

That was killing baseball, waiting for something to happen.

Speeding up baseball was a good thing.

Full disclosure, I do not watch baseball anymore.

Posted by: Seems Legit at April 08, 2025 04:36 PM (PMtkd)

342 Thanks, TJM. If Joe is around, I'll ask again.

Posted by: Brunnhilde at April 08, 2025 04:36 PM (3AwA+)

343 Top Vaccine Expert, who allowed a Gene Therapy shot to be labeled as a Vaccine... does not want anyone to look at his data...

OK then.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 08, 2025 04:36 PM (QAkQ3)

344 336 anyhow, for so many people "Libertarian party" means "others who compete with my party" and don't much care other than to call them stoners and schismatics.
Posted by: Kindltot - eight furry chickens in white wine at April 08, 2025 04:36 PM (D7oie)

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I think 2016 could have been the year that the LP became an actual force in American politics.

Getting 5% of the vote opens them up to federal funding for elections.

And they tanked it. On purpose.

I yearn for a strong, ideological, and forceful LP. It's just never going to happen.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 04:37 PM (GBKbO)

345 Weird. I'm sure there's nothing to see here though.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 08, 2025 04:37 PM (uCjyK)

346 They acknowledge that. I think they were blaming DDT for a noted increase in cases during its use.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at April 08, 2025 04:34 PM (Dm8we)

Well sometimes that's because the kids were too dead of diseases to be diagnosed with Polio later.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 04:37 PM (n7h9X)

347 She put herself on the edge and then demanded attention.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 04:35 PM (GBKbO)

True. She's going over. My conscience will be clear.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 08, 2025 04:37 PM (qGadR)

348 Anybody remember Orel Hershiser?

Posted by: eleven at April 08, 2025 04:38 PM (0HaGk)

349 339 Want to know the real fear? That RFK jr. will publish what's in the database.
Posted by: El Mariachi at April 08, 2025 04:36 PM (D1vbu)

Yup, its like its suddenly hard to find excess death data at the NHS website, that is supposed to track that stuff...

Strange....

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 08, 2025 04:38 PM (QAkQ3)

350 PDT just now: CA is doing a terrible job (on energy).
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 04:34 PM (jsyju)
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CA has enormous deposits of oil just off the coast. Billions of barrels. 10's of thousands of jobs...but, again, CA.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 08, 2025 04:38 PM (tT6L1)

351 Crews went the legal route, which didn't work out for him.

There was also a possibly related attempt to get Crews fired from America's Got Talent for some sort of wokeness violation and Simon Cowell (who produces the show in addition to appearing on it) said no.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 08, 2025 04:38 PM (2ocoG)

352 She put herself on the edge and then demanded attention.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 04:35 PM (GBKbO)

Never should have gone to Hollywood.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 08, 2025 04:38 PM (8HNt+)

353 >>The problem with the DH is that they won't eliminate it in the minors. That means the last time an MLB pitcher swung a bat was likely in HS. Though Maddux was willing to put in the time to at least learn how to bunt. And I do miss the double switch.

Also, it screws with the Bean Ball.

No point in allowing head hunting when the Pitcher is never exposed to retaliation.

Posted by: garrett at April 08, 2025 04:38 PM (F30Ty)

354 Posted by: Brunnhilde

Take more blood, Brunnhilde!

Posted by: Miklosdoric of York, medieval barber and EXPERT at April 08, 2025 04:38 PM (RgW1J)

355 >>Anybody remember Orel Hershiser?

He was no Dan Quizenberry

Posted by: garrett at April 08, 2025 04:38 PM (F30Ty)

356 339 Want to know the real fear? That RFK jr. will publish what's in the database.
Posted by: El Mariachi at April 08, 2025 04:36 PM (D1vbu)

He can still do that with read-only access.

They're hiding something else.

My guess would be THEY changed reports to the system and the reports would show that if RFK Jr.'s people had full administrator access to the logs.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 08, 2025 04:39 PM (uCjyK)

357
Yikes. Chick's on the ledge already. No need to give her a shove.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder

Yeah, I don't want to her to delete herself but she's an evil bitch who is INFLUENCING other kids, children, to fall into this stupid fake "trans" trap....which leads to havoc and suicide.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 04:39 PM (dbEXM)

358 Hence...a potential need to split the movement on those lines. I'm just choosing the open borders issue as my example (anyone can choose any issue), but I think there are fissures within the movement that could benefit from just...kicking some people out, refusing the label "libertarian" and go with "national libertarian" vs. "international libertarian".
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Where libertarianism breaks down, in my opinion, is at scale and the hard fact that without government controls, you will still be controlled, ad hoc, by society which can often be more harsh than government action aka Hester's Scarlet A, shunning, exile, blanket parties, etc.

In many ways societal control is a bit better in that it can change when situations change more easily than existing laws and Constitutions can. However, as mentioned before, it can be far crueler to the extent that shoot and shovel and rule by power become the norm in some areas to control when there is no government around.

Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 04:39 PM (ctrM5)

359 He’s an expert. How daaaaare you question him?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 08, 2025 04:40 PM (Y5yQx)

360 Fauci is America’s Mengele.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at April 08, 2025 04:40 PM (3/kEz)

361 Ok, so we have:

Ellen Page
Polio and vaccines
MLB
Libertarians

We are suffering a paucity of boobs and handguns.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 08, 2025 04:40 PM (8HNt+)

362 But...what if the primary concern is organization of a nation, not a planet?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 04:15 PM (GBKbO)

This is similar to AtC's frequent refrain about immigration: are we a country or just an economic zone? Open borders and H1B advocates believe and will say the latter.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 08, 2025 04:40 PM (2ocoG)

363 361 Ok, so we have:

Ellen Page
Polio and vaccines
MLB
Libertarians

We are suffering a paucity of boobs and handguns.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 08, 2025 04:40 PM (8HNt+)

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We can always add Godzilla movies.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 04:40 PM (GBKbO)

364 I did get the shingles vaccine and got really sick for two days. I've got a pretty hardcore system but that really laid me out. I had a friend that got shingles and it was horrible. Big gaping blisters and sores around her mid-section for months with extreme pain. I decided to gamble on the vaccine versus possibly getting that virus.

Posted by: Cheri at April 08, 2025 04:40 PM (oiNtH)

365 348 Anybody remember Orel Hershiser?
Posted by: eleven

Yep and Kirk Gibson hitting the game winning HR against the Oakland A's Dennis Eckersley.

Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 04:40 PM (ctrM5)

366 Sometimes the value add of a person is to serve as an example of what not to do.

Ellen Page is doing just fine...

Posted by: WitchDoktor at April 08, 2025 04:40 PM (U5d8P)

367 Should I go for the tacticool Kristy look for my next Fox News appearance, or would that be too much?

Posted by: Pam Bondi at April 08, 2025 04:41 PM (paSBy)

368 Can you give more info. From what I've seen, the Inactivated Polio Vaccine series is supposedly 99% effective. Polio is basically gone where the vaccine is in common use.

I met someone on my mission who had bad Polio as a kid. One leg was several inches shorter than the other. It wasn't his leg that troubled him the most. It was his skull. He couldn't read small print at all. He couldn't read more than a few dozen words in large print before he had a huge headache. The man was permanently disabled. Polio suuuuucks.
Posted by: bonhomme at April 08, 2025 04:35 PM (lIio7)

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Where was this individual raised?

Candace Owens has a whole series on vaccines. One was about the Polio vaccine. Also, Tucker Carlson had a different expert on explaining polio and how it briefly reared its ugly head in America. The vaccine isn't what stopped it. It burned itself out, and, of course, cleanliness.

I don't know if google will comply but maybe using grok or others MAY link to the history of polio.

Posted by: Seems Legit at April 08, 2025 04:41 PM (PMtkd)

369 Agree or Disagree?

MLB should allow a Designated Hitler.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 04:29 PM (UyNz

___________________________

I'll defer to my colleague, David French on this one. He has vast experience on allowing a DH into his house every Wednesday evening. As far as "Designated Hitler," well, I'm sure he will bring up Trump in his response once he gargles and clears his throat of Wednesday's "finale."

(too graphic?)

Posted by: Orson at April 08, 2025 04:41 PM (dIske)

370 Yeah, I don't want to her to delete herself but she's an evil bitch who is INFLUENCING other kids, children, to fall into this stupid fake "trans" trap....which leads to havoc and suicide.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 04:39 PM (dbEXM)

POSIT: Ellen Page has no influence.

Posted by: BruceWayne at April 08, 2025 04:41 PM (MGB5H)

371 I yearn for a strong, ideological, and forceful LP. It's just never going to happen.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 04:37 PM (GBKbO)

Forceful?

The Libertarians should at least start with the 2 pound dumbbells.

Posted by: Miklosius Liber at April 08, 2025 04:41 PM (RgW1J)

372 What baseball has, and the other major sports don't, is largely objective rules. Existing tech could replace home plate umps tomorrow on ball/strike calls, which is the biggest thing. Other than that, what rules are inherently subjective? Balks, runner interference/outside the path?

Too much of football and basketball comes down to subjective calls on interference/holding/fouls. The refs control the outcome way more than the umps in baseball.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at April 08, 2025 04:41 PM (Dm8we)

373 Godzirra is not lear.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 08, 2025 04:41 PM (+nKhw)

374 Yes you do. Painful death versus a swift one. A simple adjustment to a hangman's noose causes strangulation as cause of death rather than snapping the spinal cord cleanly. Pretty gruesome tales of past days when the hangman was incompetent or malicious.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 04:21 PM (ctrM5)

Or Russian

Posted by: Kindltot - eight furry chickens in white wine at April 08, 2025 04:41 PM (D7oie)

375 364 I did get the shingles vaccine and got really sick for two days. I've got a pretty hardcore system but that really laid me out. I had a friend that got shingles and it was horrible. Big gaping blisters and sores around her mid-section for months with extreme pain. I decided to gamble on the vaccine versus possibly getting that virus.
Posted by: Cheri
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Ditto. In my case, I had pretty bad reactions for a week each time but then again, I have autoimmune disorder (inflammatory arthritis).

Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 04:41 PM (ctrM5)

376

Narf!

Posted by: Kindltot - eight furry chickens in white wine at April 08, 2025 04:42 PM (D7oie)

377 373 Godzirra is not lear.
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 08, 2025 04:41 PM (+nKhw)

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Gojira stomp on Lear right after Bambi.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 04:42 PM (GBKbO)

378 325
PDT just now: CA is doing a terrible job (on energy).
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 04:34 PM (jsyju)

What? Just because Gas prices are double what others pay.... and Nat Gas prices to our homes are 3X what others pay... and electricity is 52% higher than the national average...

and we have rolling brown outs every summer... and our electric grid keeps starting major fires... and...

oh... shit...

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 08, 2025 04:42 PM (QAkQ3)

379

Posted by: WitchDoktor at April 08, 2025 04:42 PM (U5d8P)

380 Godzilla V Sherlock Holmes.

Posted by: eleven at April 08, 2025 04:42 PM (0HaGk)

381 POSIT: Ellen Page has no influence.

Agreed. She blew up any star power she had when she cut off her boobs.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 08, 2025 04:42 PM (2ocoG)

382 Its so weird to me. I know they almost all let the FNM and SM tell them who the enemy is, but I still cannot grok not going WTH? when the FNM does a 180 shift on something like the vaccines.
Posted by: PaleRider at April 08, 2025 04:16 PM (CKOCg)

Did you ever read 1984? Think about how they reacted. No one found that believable and, yet, here we are.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 08, 2025 04:34 PM (ExV1e)

1984 was totally accurate that in group society that when intergroup relations change all ideas about the groups outside change with it...."Last war's enemies, this war's allies"

Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 04:42 PM (n7h9X)

383 I think 2016 could have been the year that the LP became an actual force in American politics.

======

Because they got high
Because they got high
Because they got hiiiiiiiigh

Posted by: 2009Refugee at April 08, 2025 04:43 PM (wZbD3)

384 did get the shingles vaccine and got really sick for two days. I've got a pretty hardcore system but that really laid me out. I had a friend that got shingles and it was horrible. Big gaping blisters and sores around her mid-section for months with extreme pain. I decided to gamble on the vaccine versus possibly getting that virus.
Posted by: Cheri at April 08, 2025 04:40 PM (oiNtH)

My parents got the shingles vaccine and I got shingles.

Posted by: BruceWayne at April 08, 2025 04:43 PM (MGB5H)

385 This is similar to AtC's frequent refrain about immigration: are we a country or just an economic zone? Open borders and H1B advocates believe and will say the latter.
Posted by: Ian S. at April 08, 2025 04:40 PM (2ocoG)

Yeah, the comedian Tim Dillon actually said something shockingly insightful about this the other day on his podcast. It was in reference to a bunch of billionaires threatening to leave Britain over their new world-wide earnings tax. (paraphrasing)

"What do you expect? Of course they're going to leave. The European Island Economic Zone is asking for more in taxes, they'll just move to Monaco. They never had any affinity or connection to the UK, it was also just an economic zone and tax haven for criminals and billionaires all over Asia and Eastern Europe. If you say nationalism is bad and countries don't matter, you can't also get angry that people leave when you try to raise their taxes. Why wouldn't they leave? This was always just an economic deal."

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 08, 2025 04:43 PM (uCjyK)

386 381 POSIT: Ellen Page has no influence.

Agreed. She blew up any star power she had when she cut off her boobs.
Posted by: Ian S. at April 08, 2025 04:42 PM (2ocoG)

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She's as influential as any rando tranny influencer on X.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 04:43 PM (GBKbO)

387 We are suffering a paucity of boobs and handguns.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 08, 2025 04:40 PM (8HNt+)

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We can always add Godzilla movies.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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How about Godzilla is attacking poor Tokyo when he has a target rich environment in DC or Brussels for that matter. Would get cheers in the theater.

Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 04:43 PM (ctrM5)

388 >>>Anybody remember Orel Hershiser?
Posted by: eleven

>He had a 'strike zone' game that should have been renamed 'homerun derby.'

Posted by: Rev Wishbone at April 08, 2025 04:43 PM (fY84s)

389
Yep and Kirk Gibson hitting the game winning HR against the Oakland A's Dennis Eckersley.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 04:40 PM (ctrM5)
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On a bum knee, no less.

There was an anecdotal story out of the clubhouse Gibson got pranked with shaving cream in a batting helmet in spring training and he blew his stack. Told everyone to get down to business and quit screwing around. Oddly, that was the year they won the series.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 08, 2025 04:43 PM (tT6L1)

390 (too graphic?)
Posted by: Orson at April 08, 2025 04:41 PM (dIske)

I think we have been more graphic in describing the French household Olympics.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 08, 2025 04:43 PM (8HNt+)

391
On the contrary, ellen page is the justin bieber of the "trans" agenda. Stupid kids admire her.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 04:43 PM (s+D5u)

392 Is the clot shot still under emergency authorization?
Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2025 04:22 PM (t0Rmr)

Yes, and it is on the CDC children's vaccine schedule in spite of all the indications that there is at least a correlation with death

Posted by: Kindltot - eight furry chickens in white wine at April 08, 2025 04:43 PM (D7oie)

393 I think Ellen Paige was sexually assaulted in some way which led to the hatred of her own body.

I think there are a lot of broken young people in Hollywood.

Posted by: Seems Legit at April 08, 2025 04:43 PM (PMtkd)

394 Going out on a limb here but I'm thinking Shoshana Chatfield is no Raymond Spruance

Posted by: steevy at April 08, 2025 04:44 PM (KQk9m)

395 and we have rolling brown outs every summer... and our electric grid keeps starting major fires... and...

oh... shit...
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 08, 2025 04:42 PM (QAkQ3)

I think that the fact that we are cutting power plants as a response takes the giddy biscuit though.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 04:44 PM (n7h9X)

396 >>> Yep and Kirk Gibson hitting the game winning HR against the Oakland A's Dennis Eckersley.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 04:40 PM (ctrM5)

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I was a catcher in college when that happened. I remember watching that game and wondering how Eck could have possibly thrown that pitch to that location. Almost like putting it on a Tee for him.

Posted by: Turn 2 at April 08, 2025 04:44 PM (EEXm4)

397 What? Just because Gas prices are double what others pay.... and Nat Gas prices to our homes are 3X what others pay... and electricity is 52% higher than the national average...

and we have rolling brown outs every summer... and our electric grid keeps starting major fires

—

But all that is due to global warming and racism.
Has nothing to do with CA policy.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 08, 2025 04:44 PM (Y5yQx)

398 387 How about Godzilla is attacking poor Tokyo when he has a target rich environment in DC or Brussels for that matter. Would get cheers in the theater.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 04:43 PM (ctrM5)

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Godzilla attacks DC.

No one can pilot an aircraft and they all crash on takeoff.

The Mechagodzilla project as been running for 10 years but nothing's been built despite hundreds of billions in spending.

Mothra would come, but the little twins got murdered in the streets of DC by a gang.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 04:44 PM (GBKbO)

399 She's as influential as any rando tranny influencer on X.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 04:43 PM (GBKbO)

So what I said.

Posted by: BruceWayne at April 08, 2025 04:45 PM (MGB5H)

400 My parents got the shingles vaccine and I got shingles.
Posted by: BruceWayne

Should have opted for the lousy t-shirt.

Posted by: Miklos post facto at April 08, 2025 04:45 PM (RgW1J)

401 >>What? Just because Gas prices are double what others pay.... and Nat Gas prices to our homes are 3X what others pay... and electricity is 52% higher than the national average...

>and we have rolling brown outs every summer... and our electric grid keeps starting major fires

But the Weather!

Posted by: garrett at April 08, 2025 04:45 PM (F30Ty)

402 Kirk Gibson HR is iconic.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 08, 2025 04:45 PM (Y5yQx)

403 On a bum knee, no less.

There was an anecdotal story out of the clubhouse Gibson got pranked with shaving cream in a batting helmet in spring training and he blew his stack. Told everyone to get down to business and quit screwing around. Oddly, that was the year they won the series.
Posted by: blake
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That team had a lot of underrated talent and Kirk was tired, I think, of playing for losing teams like the Tigers with no shot at the World Series. He knew probably this was his one shot to win one.

Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 04:46 PM (ctrM5)

404
nood tranny shit

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 04:46 PM (s+D5u)

405

nood

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 04:46 PM (s+D5u)

406 My parents got the shingles vaccine and I got shingles.
Posted by: BruceWayne at April 08, 2025 04:43 PM (MGB5H)

upside is you don't need an umbrella in the rain.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 04:46 PM (n7h9X)

407 nood tranny

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 08, 2025 04:46 PM (uCjyK)

408 392 Is the clot shot still under emergency authorization?
Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2025 04:22 PM (t0Rmr)
________________________

Can I assume that is to negate any civil liability actions?

Posted by: Orson at April 08, 2025 04:46 PM (dIske)

409 You changed the definition of "vaccine" from something that stops the transmission or a disease, a definition that had existed for 100 years, to something that helps the body's immune system.

Motherfucker, you should be crucified and then set on fucking fire for the damage you've done to modern medicine, and for helping the "vaccine" manufacturers foist their dangerous products on us.

These people are insane.

Posted by: Sharkman at April 08, 2025 04:46 PM (BRvvM)

410 I think Ellen Paige was sexually assaulted in some way which led to the hatred of her own body.

I think there are a lot of broken young people in Hollywood.
Posted by: Seems Legit at April 08, 2025 04:43 PM (PMtkd)

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It's a tough business even absent that. My actress friend tells me a thick skin is absolutely necessary since she and others get rejected for parts because they are too heavy, too thin, aren't tall enough, too tall, face isn't right, etc etc.

All of that really messes with you.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at April 08, 2025 04:46 PM (U5d8P)

411 My house got shingles once.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 08, 2025 04:47 PM (+nKhw)

412 Yep and Kirk Gibson hitting the game winning HR against the Oakland A's Dennis Eckersley.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 04:40 PM (ctrM5)
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On a bum knee, no less.

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He was I destructible as a WR at MSU, and thrived on hitting DB's.

Put on a baseball uniform, and caught an injury bug.

Had he stayed healthy . . Who knows . . But still had a great career.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at April 08, 2025 04:48 PM (wZbD3)

413 > I did get the shingles vaccine and got really sick for two days. I've got a pretty hardcore system but that really laid me out. I had a friend that got shingles and it was horrible. Big gaping blisters and sores around her mid-section for months with extreme pain. I decided to gamble on the vaccine versus possibly getting that virus.

I got a much milder case of shingles. It was on my torso near my waist. It still itched like crazy and I was pretty miserable.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 08, 2025 04:48 PM (lIio7)

414 Children do not need a polio vaccine.
Posted by: Seems Legit at April 08, 2025 04:27 PM (PMtkd)

They do, actually. It keeps the children from catching polio from the kids who just got vaccinated and are spreading those viruses.

Posted by: Kindltot - eight furry chickens in white wine at April 08, 2025 04:48 PM (D7oie)

415 But the Weather!
Posted by: garrett at April 08, 2025 04:45 PM (F30Ty)

Well... it is a 70 degree beautiful blue sky day here right now... was just out doing yard work.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 08, 2025 04:49 PM (QAkQ3)

416 I was a catcher in college when that happened. I remember watching that game and wondering how Eck could have possibly thrown that pitch to that location. Almost like putting it on a Tee for him.
Posted by: Turn 2 at April 08, 2025 04:44 PM (EEXm4)

Two years later they didn't dare even give him a shot against the 1990 Reds in the WS after he got rocked in an early game.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 04:49 PM (n7h9X)

417 With the extremely low numbers of actual trans kids, it is so weird how Hollywood celebrities have so many. Maybe it is trendy like when Paris Hilton carried her little dog around in her purse and dressed it up. Destroying their children to virtue signal to their God of Trans.

Posted by: Cheri at April 08, 2025 04:50 PM (oiNtH)

418 nood!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 08, 2025 04:50 PM (/Ghsb)

419 - Late and likely to be willowed but...

Isn't Mark's the guy that, in cahoots with Fauxi, basically stole some research stuff on aids from a lady, I think Judy something (Mikovits?) and her working partner at NIH?
Then he and Fauxi got a patent on what they'd stolen?
I may be misremembering. Been a while.

Posted by: TeeJ at April 08, 2025 04:54 PM (L8+qQ)

420 Polio apparently is known of in ancient writing and images. DDT was invented in 1874 and was only used massively in WWII and after. A little sus.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 04:30 PM (n7h9X)

Would you like to rely on your memory of what you were told by the very sort of people who locked you into your house and made you wear masks in Walmart and public beaches, or would you like to hear very well accredited contrary opinion?

While you make up your mind on that, here is a link to Joe Rogan and a nephrologist who got into trouble for asking questios about vaccines, and finally put her historical research into a book, that she then was forced to self publish

https://tinyurl.com/5n8m75y9

Posted by: Kindltot - eight furry chickens in white wine at April 08, 2025 04:55 PM (D7oie)

421 They also "removed" Vice Admiral Shoshana Chatfield as the U.S. military representative to NATO for not putting the picture of the CIC and Sec of Defense and calling a meeting to say, "We'll wait them out 4 years ...

Posted by: Seems Legit at April 08, 2025 03:55 PM (PMtkd)
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"... at home, unemployed."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 08, 2025 05:02 PM (YqDXo)

422 Marks is highly regarded by former FDA leaders WHO ARE NOW biotech industry executives.

FIFY

Also former biotech and pharma executives who are now part of the FDA "resistance" to RFK Jr.

Note that health care providers are REQUIRED BY LAW to report possible adverse effects. Since VAERS was created in 1990, only a tiny fraction--by many reports less than 1%--of reactions are reported.

And since 1990, people who make reports discover that once made and posted, they can mysteriously vanish.

Posted by: Peter B at April 08, 2025 05:06 PM (wox4g)

423 It is hard to keep track of hundreds of Leftists and their relationships

Posted by: Skip at April 08, 2025 05:12 PM (ypFCm)

424 I think Peter Hegseth is a good looking man, but I don't want either he or Marco Rubio to address press conferences wearing "non modest attire", although I did enjoy seeing videos of Hegseth exercising with soldiers.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 08, 2025 05:18 PM (42Vb+)

425 51 Karl Marx >>> Richard Marks

Posted by: BurtTC at April 08, 2025 03:51 PM (dGCAG)
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51 Karl Marx >>> Richard Marks >>>> Laundry Marks

Posted by: Ciampino - GOONSHOW LINE at April 08, 2025 05:33 PM (sPQoU)

426 I know this is an old story but - as I work in clinical trial data systems, I'd like to point out that absolutely NOBODY gets "edit" permissions. Nobody. None. Nada. The ONLY people who get that permission to a Clinical Database Management System are the "site users" - aka the ones who collect the data directly from patients.
There's a strict, and I mean strict separation of duties enforced on the user administration to any CDMS system. The people in charge of administrating user rights and roles, do not have access to the actual clinical data.
All of the databases are fully audited, meaning every transaction on the data is monitored in a "who what when where why" log. If data is changed by someone who isn't authorized to change it, we can identify why immediately and fix it.
There is no reason for RFK Jr. to have anything other than full Read-only access to any database. None. He's not a primary data collector so I don't know why he would need edit permissions.

Posted by: Defenestratus at April 08, 2025 06:17 PM (WYStd)

427 He's afraid that the database will be deleted or corrupted? Either he's full of shit or he's never heard of database backups. As others have pointed out, JFK doesn't need edit access to the db. Just read access.

Posted by: Tom at April 09, 2025 03:16 AM (368KJ)

428 I'm not sure why but this web site is loading extremely slow for me.
Is anyone else having this problem or is it a problem on my end?

I'll check back later on and see if the problem still exists.

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