Supreme Court Reverses Lower Hawaiian Judge's Order to Re-Hire the Federal Layabouts Trump Fired

The headline is misleading. The Court did not rule on the final merits. Rather, it stayed yet another "emergency injunctive relief" order from a Hawaiian judge, in which the judge, yet again, said "Before we even hear the merits of this lawsuit, we're going to just go ahead and assume you're going to win at trial and we're going to order the government to re-hire you until the actual trial."

The Supreme Court stayed that order, which means the federal "workers" are fired until some trial concludes that they must have Federal Jobs for Life.

The Supreme Court has halted an order by a superannuated, Clinton-appointed San Francisco judge that would have required the Trump administration to reinstate some 16,000 probationary employees it had fired from the Pentagon, the Treasury, and the Agriculture, Energy, Veterans Affairs, and Interior Departments.
The order places the reinstatement on hiatus until the Supreme Court has a chance to rule on the issue, but things look grim for the Resistance. The vote was 6-2, with only hardened anti-Trumpers Sotomayor and Jackson voting to sustain the judge's order.

Nine "non-profit" organizations sued to reinstate the "workers." Note that the workers themselves didn't sue.

I love that the "non-profits'" suit was thrown out for, get this, lack of standing.

This case originated in March when the Office of Personnel Management issued an order directing agencies to terminate workers in term or probationary status. Somehow, this case ended up in San Francisco, which only has the most tenuous connection to any of the agencies named in the suit; see Federal Judge Orders Trump to Rehire Thousands of Fired Federal Workers -- RedState. One might suspect that judge shopping was going on.

BREAKING: SCOTUS just ruled in Trump's favor again!

They blocked a lower court ruling that ordered the administration to rehire 16,000 federal employees.

HUGE WIN!!! pic.twitter.com/qPWzU0IgTL
— Gunther Eagleman™ (@GuntherEagleman) April 8, 2025

Posted by: Ace at 01:29 PM

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1 3w34r534er

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 08, 2025 01:30 PM (asZHj)

2 Top 100

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 08, 2025 01:30 PM (uCjyK)

3
I've got to move to the other side of the keyboard. Those numbers and letters are getting too samesie.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 08, 2025 01:30 PM (asZHj)

4 SCOTUS, like the GOP, will eventually disappoint us.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 08, 2025 01:32 PM (/U5Yz)

5 As should have been expected.

With a 6-2 vote, which justice didn't vote? I am going g to guess Kagan.

Posted by: tankdemon at April 08, 2025 01:32 PM (z9kNN)

6 I've got to move to the other side of the keyboard. Those numbers and letters are getting too samesie.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

There are 4 rows on most keyboards... just saying...

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 08, 2025 01:33 PM (tziXX)

7
Well, I guess it's time to put on my SCOTUS "expert" hat, again!

Posted by: Fake "Expert" on Twitter at April 08, 2025 01:33 PM (Ks1zr)

8
brb, expertin'

Posted by: Fake "Expert" on Twitter at April 08, 2025 01:33 PM (Ks1zr)

9
Fun, but fuck them.

Go Andrew Jackson and tell 'em to enforce their retarded rulings.

Posted by: Auspex at April 08, 2025 01:33 PM (j4U/Z)

10 Hey Ace, you going to include something about your best gal Taylor Lorenz being disappointed that Biden isn't dead?

"Taylor Lorenz, who now contributes to former MSNBC host Mehdi Hasan's website, expressed disappointment when she realized a false report about Biden's death wasn't true."

Posted by: Crusader at April 08, 2025 01:33 PM (TN0g+)

11
I'm now, reads notes, an "expert" in federal employee due process!

Posted by: Fake "Expert" on Twitter at April 08, 2025 01:34 PM (Ks1zr)

12
Oooh, Karoline confirms re Trump's hint last Thursday about a big DOGE announcement that there has been "a discovery" but she can't tell us what it is yet. She had a mysterious little smile.

Cliffhanger!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 08, 2025 01:34 PM (asZHj)

13 As should have been expected.

With a 6-2 vote, which justice didn't vote?
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One of them doesn't even know what a woman is. I'm surprised she can even find the building they meet in.

Posted by: Crusader at April 08, 2025 01:34 PM (TN0g+)

14 Think about how crazed you have to be to go along with the idea that some lower court judge gets to freeze a President (and thus the whole nation) from doing something like rearrange staff at Executive agencies or deport illegal aliens.

It would be the equivalent of a Congress member like AOC getting to dictate what the President can do from her Brooklyn district.

Posted by: Leupold at April 08, 2025 01:34 PM (4pwAx)

15 ACB is already a huge disappointment. What the hell is wrong with her?

Posted by: bonhomme at April 08, 2025 01:35 PM (lIio7)

16 Na na na na na na hey gf.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 08, 2025 01:35 PM (+nKhw)

17 AOC getting to dictate what the President can do from her Brooklyn district.
Posted by: Leupold at April 08, 2025 01:34 PM (4pwAx)

Point of order: AOC's district includes parts of the Bronx and Queens, not Brooklyn.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 08, 2025 01:35 PM (uCjyK)

18
There are 4 rows on most keyboards... just saying...
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron

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You get down into that ALT and FN territory and you risk losing w389wtwfeere, though. Believe me, it's a science.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 08, 2025 01:35 PM (asZHj)

19 Alternate headline: Chief Justice finally removes thumb from ass, does literally something.

Posted by: ballistic at April 08, 2025 01:35 PM (wyUwI)

20 ACB is already a huge disappointment. What the hell is wrong with her?

she bases her rulings on likes on Instagram

Posted by: brak at April 08, 2025 01:36 PM (jGJov)

21
I'm going to laugh when the Golden Scalp Weasel says "okay, we'll hire them back... at GS-2 level".

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 08, 2025 01:36 PM (y9nCu)

22 YOU’RE FIRED!

Pack your shit and gtfo.

Posted by: nurse ratched at April 08, 2025 01:36 PM (X1atC)

23 No teat for you!

Posted by: wth at April 08, 2025 01:36 PM (HgMAr)

24 Those twits should have taken the buyout. Elon would have paid them for six months while they found jobs. Instead, they sue. And how much did that set them back?

Posted by: tcn in AK at April 08, 2025 01:36 PM (eQO/Z)

25 The fired workers- paid off by whomever- along with the"Hands Off" folks will be the basis for riots in the Summer.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 08, 2025 01:36 PM (YIRlV)

26 I seem to have lost the plot. Tell me again which of these justices are scumbag traitors and which aren’t.

Posted by: Going deep. Out. at April 08, 2025 01:36 PM (6t8M3)

27 See ya proby.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 08, 2025 01:37 PM (+nKhw)

28 12
Oooh, Karoline confirms re Trump's hint last Thursday about a big DOGE announcement that there has been "a discovery" but she can't tell us what it is yet. She had a mysterious little smile.

Cliffhanger!
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 08, 2025 01:34 PM (asZHj)

/Puts on his Swami hat, holds card up to forehead

Enough proof of enough illegals voting in an election, to overturn the result...

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 08, 2025 01:37 PM (QAkQ3)

29 That CNN screencap sure makes Dana Bash(?) look like she has some serious child-bearing hips.

Posted by: Gunslinger at April 08, 2025 01:37 PM (R2gO3)

30 Oooh, Karoline confirms re Trump's hint last Thursday about a big DOGE announcement that there has been "a discovery" but she can't tell us what it is yet. She had a mysterious little smile.
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With that, she disappeared into the hall...it was perhaps 2 minutes later that I could hear her high heels clacking on the wood floor as she returned and entered the living room...now wearing only the heels, a white gown, and pearls...

Posted by: Crusader at April 08, 2025 01:38 PM (TN0g+)

31 I can't begin to express how much I am looking forward to Lunch today.

Not just because I am going to ravage a burrito like I was a Smart Military Blogger who found his way to Marco Rubio's Midden Heap...
but, because I am fucking starving.

Posted by: garrett at April 08, 2025 01:38 PM (F30Ty)

32 These judges are not trying to do anything just or legal, they see themselves as the lone knight on the bridge fighting off the evil horde. They are Superman, they are the hero of the story. "I'll save you!"

From Roe vs Wade and beyond (and probably before) these guys have been barfing out ludicrous, unlawful crap they invent just to get the results they desire, no matter how likely it is to survive any appeal or examination.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 08, 2025 01:38 PM (OlZEO)

33 Well, I guess it's time to put on my SCOTUS "expert" hat, again!
Posted by: Fake "Expert" on Twitter at April 08, 2025 01:33 PM (Ks1zr)

Experts?
Hell, if they wanted experts they'd of called Mrs D. She is an expert on everything.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 08, 2025 01:38 PM (W/lyH)

34 Embrace, celebrate, and advertise all of the rulings that support MAGA.

Ignore all the ones that attempt to suppress MAGA.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Women only need 1200 calories per day at April 08, 2025 01:38 PM (zJgD/)

35 12
Oooh, Karoline confirms re Trump's hint last Thursday about a big DOGE announcement that there has been "a discovery" but she can't tell us what it is yet. She had a mysterious little smile.

Cliffhanger!
___

Two More Weeks!

Posted by: Joe DiGenova at April 08, 2025 01:38 PM (qUkBO)

36 15 ACB is already a huge disappointment. What the hell is wrong with her?
Posted by: bonhomme at April 08, 2025 01:35 PM (lIio7)

The problem with her is that "our side" picks "rock ribbed conservative judges" who "don't believe in judicial activism."

You know, guys like Earl Warren, David Souter and John Roberts.

It would be nice if we picked judges who DID believe in judicial activism, but unfortunately the failure theater department of the Deep State does not approve.

Occasionally some sneak in, like Thomas or Scalia (as long as drugs weren't involved! If drugs were involved, he was Earl Warren 2.0). But very rarely.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 08, 2025 01:38 PM (uCjyK)

37 8
brb, expertin'
Posted by: Fake "Expert" on Twitter at April 08, 2025 01:33 PM (Ks1zr)

I don't need to be an expert, I have Dunning and Kryger on speed dial.

Posted by: tankdemon at April 08, 2025 01:38 PM (z9kNN)

38 15 ACB is already a huge disappointment. What the hell is wrong with her?

maybe she didn't go to an Ivy but she sure acts like she did

very "elite-coded"

ergo, essentially liberal (and wishes to please her fellow elite leftists)

Posted by: Black Orchid at April 08, 2025 01:39 PM (Pv3Rg)

39 Per the link it's a 7-2 decision, Kagan and Sotomayor dissenting

Posted by: Polka will never die at April 08, 2025 01:39 PM (uxAXv)

40 >> Instead, they sue. And how much did that set them back?

Oh, you sweet summer child...they aren't paying a dime.

This is all being paid for by Democrat Law Firms and NGOs.

Posted by: garrett at April 08, 2025 01:39 PM (F30Ty)

41 Now what is the consequence for a federal judge issuing such bullsh*t rulings.

"None," you say.

I think not.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 08, 2025 01:39 PM (7NKxb)

42 That CNN screencap sure makes Dana Bash(?) look like she has some serious child-bearing hips.
Posted by: Gunslinger at April 08, 2025 01:37 PM (R2gO3)

NOT a good look.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 08, 2025 01:39 PM (W/lyH)

43 Non-Profits. I left out Non-Profits.

Posted by: garrett at April 08, 2025 01:39 PM (F30Ty)

44 Hawaiian Judges are the Lambert Simnels of Avignon Popes.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 08, 2025 01:40 PM (l3YAf)

45 Hell, if they wanted experts they'd of called Mrs D. She is an expert on everything.
Posted by: Diogenes at April 08, 2025 01:38 PM (W/lyH)

You know it. Now, sit down and shut up while I put you on some knowledge.

--Mrs D.

Posted by: tcn in AK at April 08, 2025 01:40 PM (eQO/Z)

46 It's in the Constitution that one President can hire his friends and then the next President must keep employing them so that they can frustrate the policies of the current President. Article 1.5, I think.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at April 08, 2025 01:40 PM (lYOMi)

47
From Roe vs Wade and beyond (and probably before) these guys have been barfing out ludicrous, unlawful crap they invent just to get the results they desire, no matter how likely it is to survive any appeal or examination.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

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The big policy changes for the US have come down from judges. Never was supposed to be this way.

It really kicked off with Earl Warren. US would be a much different place had Eisenhower not nominated him.

Posted by: Leupold at April 08, 2025 01:40 PM (4pwAx)

48 Yeah.... I may not be a legal expert... but I did sleep with a Lawyer at a Holiday Inn once...

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 08, 2025 01:40 PM (QAkQ3)

49 Disney is a non profit.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 08, 2025 01:40 PM (+nKhw)

50 ACB is already a huge disappointment. What the hell is wrong with her?

I think she is reliable on social issues, and problematic otherwise. So if you get her in front of a ruling on, say, trans bathrooms, you get a decent decision. You get her on some economic or diplomatic thing and its a coinflip.

There was a rumor that at least one of the judges was intimidated by the BLM riots and feared the anger of lefties, how true that is I cannot say. But its definitely true that leftist rallies and riots and such are not aimed at voters. They just piss voters off. They're aimed at frightening politicians and people in power.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 08, 2025 01:40 PM (OlZEO)

51 I love that the "non-profits'" suit was thrown out for, get this, lack of standing.

Right leaning jurists should use this with the same vengeance the left did

Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2025 01:40 PM (t0Rmr)

52 How does this lawsuit have a greater than 0% chance of succeeding? potus is the ceo. The ceo wants to lay people off. Where is the problem? Where is the lawsuit argument against it?

In a sane world scotus would take the lawsuit paper and wipe its ass with it.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 08, 2025 01:41 PM (Y5yQx)

53 The fired workers- paid off by whomever- along with the"Hands Off" folks will be the basis for riots in the Summer.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 08, 2025 01:36 PM (YIRlV)

Good. Machine-gunning does have a sort of finality to it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 08, 2025 01:41 PM (8zz6B)

54 39 Per the link it's a 7-2 decision, Kagan and Sotomayor dissenting
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Kagan dissenting; Sotomayor dysentery.

Posted by: SCOTUS Toilet Blog at April 08, 2025 01:41 PM (qUkBO)

55 >> as long as drugs weren't involved! If drugs were involved, he was Earl Warren 2.0

Feckin’ Raich..

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 08, 2025 01:41 PM (l3YAf)

56 Dana Bash has the sadz. And my empathy meter is stuck at zero

Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 08, 2025 01:41 PM (6TePA)

57 Oooh, Karoline confirms re Trump's hint last Thursday about a big DOGE announcement that there has been "a discovery" but she can't tell us what it is yet. She had a mysterious little smile.

Cliffhanger!
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 08, 2025 01:34 PM (asZHj)
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Flouting the law is about to have real consequences. Elon was talking to Jesse Watters about evidence of very serious crimes.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 08, 2025 01:41 PM (7NKxb)

58 AOC getting to dictate what the President can do from her Brooklyn district.
Posted by: Leupold at April 08, 2025 01:34 PM (4pwAx)
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Point of order: AOC's district includes parts of the Bronx and Queens, not Brooklyn.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 08, 2025 01:35 PM (uCjyK)

Yep. I'm in the Queens part and AOC never comes here; when she's in town she stays in da Bronx.

Posted by: RickZ at April 08, 2025 01:41 PM (gKDq2)

59 These butthead judges need to be slapped down and then impeached.

They really hate average Americans.

Posted by: Czech Chick at April 08, 2025 01:41 PM (vK/Ja)

60 Wise wheatina?

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 08, 2025 01:41 PM (+nKhw)

61 Canada just jabbed the crap out of our government workforce.

They'd never be fired but this still may work out, hopefully. I don't care how they go, as long as they go.

I just finished a Zoom breathwork session. The lady hosting was from Ireland. Nice accent.

Posted by: Stateless...86% - mental state clawing up from 10% at April 08, 2025 01:41 PM (jvJvP)

62 One of them doesn't even know what a woman is. I'm surprised she can even find the building they meet in.
Posted by: Crusader at April 08, 2025 01:34 PM (TN0g+)

It's fun to say that, but she knows perfectly well what a woman is. She just didn't want to be on record making either a truthful *or* politically expedient statement.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 08, 2025 01:41 PM (lFFaq)

63 The big policy changes for the US have come down from judges. Never was supposed to be this way.

It really kicked off with Earl Warren. US would be a much different place had Eisenhower not nominated him.
Posted by: Leupold at April 08, 2025 01:40 PM (4pwAx)

Yeah, once it was deemed that growing Chicken feed for your own chickens is somehow Commerce Between States... we were in whacko land.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 08, 2025 01:42 PM (QAkQ3)

64 The very idea that the president of the united states -- the chief executive of the department -- cannot fire people that he chooses to is frankly bizarre to me. The constitution is pretty clear that the only protected employees are those appointed by congress.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 08, 2025 01:42 PM (OlZEO)

65 >>I love that the "non-profits'" suit was thrown out for, get this, lack of standing.

Leftists don't have standing to make a Lawfare attack? Finally!Hooray!

Posted by: Gref at April 08, 2025 01:42 PM (aBgBM)

66 Hawaiian Punch > Hawaiian judge

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 08, 2025 01:42 PM (L/fGl)

67 From Roe vs Wade and beyond (and probably before) these guys have been barfing out ludicrous, unlawful crap they invent just to get the results they desire, no matter how likely it is to survive any appeal or examination.

Been a long time, all the way back to the progressive era.

Wickard v. Filburn was pretty awful and led to a lot of this and that was decades before Roe.

Ending the Lochner era of contracts was a progressive move from the court that also opened the door to a lot of problems.

Posted by: brak at April 08, 2025 01:42 PM (jGJov)

68 Yep. I'm in the Queens part and AOC never comes here; when she's in town she stays in da Bronx.
Posted by: RickZ at April 08, 2025 01:41 PM (gKDq2)

Small world. I used to live in her district in queens as well.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 08, 2025 01:43 PM (uCjyK)

69 >>How does this lawsuit have a greater than 0% chance of succeeding?

It's in front of a Corrupt Judge.

That's why that pesky phrase 'on its merits' follows the Likelihood to succeed portion of the TRO rules.

Posted by: garrett at April 08, 2025 01:43 PM (F30Ty)

70 52 How does this lawsuit have a greater than 0% chance of succeeding? potus is the ceo. The ceo wants to lay people off. Where is the problem? Where is the lawsuit argument against it?

In a sane world scotus would take the lawsuit paper and wipe its ass with it.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 08, 2025 01:41 PM (Y5yQx)

The very definition of probationary employee is that a probie can be fired without cause at any time. In what world does that mean a judge can change that? It was signed on the line by the actual probie before they took the job.

Posted by: tcn in AK at April 08, 2025 01:43 PM (eQO/Z)

71 Why would you even want to work at a job where everyone hates you and your boss wants you fired but is forced to allow you to sit in your chair and snarl at him all day? Your daily life would just be endless bad vibes, endless stress.

Posted by: zombie at April 08, 2025 01:43 PM (pMi6S)

72 28 12
Oooh, Karoline confirms re Trump's hint last Thursday about a big DOGE announcement that there has been "a discovery" but she can't tell us what it is yet. She had a mysterious little smile.

Cliffhanger!
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 08, 2025 01:34 PM (asZHj)
__________________________

I think that's the NSA firing of the head of the Cyber Dept. and why he was fired (without even allowing him to return to the office).

The Democrats are kind of quiet about it despite the hierarchy of the position. They would be if it's found that department was allowing the DNC to used it through subcontractors to dig out opposition research from the Meta-Data.

Posted by: Orson at April 08, 2025 01:43 PM (dIske)

73 It's a tax.

Posted by: John Roberts at April 08, 2025 01:43 PM (+nKhw)

74 Yeah.... I may not be a legal expert... but I did sleep with a Lawyer at a Holiday Inn once...
Posted by: Romeo13
......

did you wake up with a splitting headache and your wallet missing?

Posted by: wth at April 08, 2025 01:43 PM (HgMAr)

75 The judiciary has a solemn obligation to stay above rank partisanship because the public's perception of such threatens to undermine the very basis of the social contract. And once that contract is nullified...well...all bets are off.

These hacks in black are playing with fire and don't seem to realize that they'll be among the first to be burned.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at April 08, 2025 01:43 PM (CNncw)

76 The fired workers- paid off by whomever- along with the"Hands Off" folks will be the basis for riots in the Summer.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 08, 2025 01:36 PM (YIRlV)

I think Trump should encourage them to re-apply when positions come open, with the encouragement that "you got through the hiring process once, the second time should be a breeze"

That should calm some of the more excitable types.

Posted by: Kindltot - eight furry chickens in white wine at April 08, 2025 01:44 PM (D7oie)

77 49 Disney is a non profit.
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 08, 2025 01:40 PM (+nKhw)

It is sort of Religion... the House of the Mouse and all that.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 08, 2025 01:44 PM (QAkQ3)

78 15 ACB is already a huge disappointment. What the hell is wrong with her?
Posted by: bonhomme

She advertises her maiden name?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 08, 2025 01:44 PM (/U5Yz)

79
ACB is already a huge disappointment. What the hell is wrong with her?

she bases her rulings on likes on Instagram
Posted by: brak

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Just to clarify: In the ruling about the El Salvadoran gang member, the case was not about whether Trump could deport him. It was about the jurisdiction. The guy was from Texas, so the case should have been brought in Texas, not D.C. And it might still be brought in Texas, get the same "No deport" result, then appealed to SCOTUS and granted cert. If that happens, THEN we'll know how she feels about the deportation order.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 08, 2025 01:44 PM (asZHj)

80 this keeps happening.

It's really odd how all the "legal experts" keep being wrong about this.

Every one of them trumpet the losses and defeats in district court.

And every time it gets to an appeal, they are ... wrong.

But the next time, the next time they are going to be right.

PS: if the 14th grants birthright citizenship to illegals, the 22nd doesn't stop Trump from a 3rd term.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 08, 2025 01:44 PM (r/ymJ)

81 Disney is a non profit.
Posted by: Boss Moss

Anti-profit.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 08, 2025 01:44 PM (L/fGl)

82 opportunity to commit sabotage, leak lies to the press, you know the way of the swamp

Posted by: miguel cervantes at April 08, 2025 01:44 PM (bXbFr)

83 Harry Paratestes,

Hysteric Jackson Heights here.

Posted by: RickZ at April 08, 2025 01:45 PM (gKDq2)

84 I would like the DOJ to look into how the same small cabal of judges keep getting "randomly selected" to look into these cases over and over.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 08, 2025 01:45 PM (OlZEO)

85 It's fun to say that, but she knows perfectly well what a woman is. She just didn't want to be on record making either a truthful *or* politically expedient statement.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 08, 2025 01:41 PM (lFFaq)

No matter the state of her intellect, she still can't find her ass with her own hands. Ties herself in knots to avoid simple honesty. Not a very trustworthy judge, that one.

Posted by: tcn in AK at April 08, 2025 01:45 PM (eQO/Z)

86 How does this lawsuit have a greater than 0% chance of succeeding? potus is the ceo. The ceo wants to lay people off. Where is the problem? Where is the lawsuit argument against it?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald

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I'm not in support of this reasoning, but it's a combination of civil service laws and how spending on certain things are derived from bills passed by Congress and signed into law.

Ultimately, to really put this to bed, Congress needs to formally strip the funding on much of this to end it and it needs to be passed into law.

My understanding is a lot more firings are being held off for this reason.

Posted by: Leupold at April 08, 2025 01:45 PM (4pwAx)

87 Oooh, Karoline confirms re Trump's hint last Thursday about a big DOGE announcement that there has been "a discovery" but she can't tell us what it is yet. She had a mysterious little smile.
.......

My guess is sacks and sacks of cash.

Posted by: wth at April 08, 2025 01:45 PM (HgMAr)

88 clarify: In the ruling about the El Salvadoran gang member, the case was not about whether Trump could deport him. It was about the jurisdiction. The guy was from Texas, so the case should have been brought in Texas, not D.C. And it might still be brought in Texas, get the same "No deport" result, then appealed to SCOTUS and granted cert. If that happens, THEN we'll know how she feels about the deportation order.
Posted by: Blonde

So she’s a typical AWFL leftist concerned with the minutiae of process.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 08, 2025 01:45 PM (Y5yQx)

89 Non-Profits. I left out Non-Profits.
Posted by: garrett at April 08, 2025 01:39 PM (F30Ty)
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"Because profit is icky, and something low people have to eke out."
-NGO CEO pulling $800k

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 08, 2025 01:45 PM (7NKxb)

90 well they have threatened her and her sister,

Posted by: miguel cervantes at April 08, 2025 01:45 PM (bXbFr)

91 expressed disappointment when she realized a false report about Biden's death wasn't true."
Posted by: Crusader

"I won't which death on anyone, but there are many whose obituaries I would read with great pleasure"

Posted by: FeatherBlade at April 08, 2025 01:46 PM (hB7mE)

92 87 Oooh, Karoline confirms re Trump's hint last Thursday about a big DOGE announcement that there has been "a discovery" but she can't tell us what it is yet. She had a mysterious little smile.
.......

My guess is sacks and sacks of cash.
Posted by: wth

Half the congress is gay?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 08, 2025 01:46 PM (/U5Yz)

93 75 The judiciary has a solemn obligation to stay above rank partisanship because the public's perception of such threatens to undermine the very basis of the social contract. And once that contract is nullified...well...all bets are off.

These hacks in black are playing with fire and don't seem to realize that they'll be among the first to be burned.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at April 08, 2025 01:43 PM (CNncw)

People don't understand that most of the power of the Courts, does not come from laws, but from Precedents and 'rules' they themselves wrote... defining their own Power of the Judiciary.

Once you question it, just like the current power of the monarchy in Britain (based on tradition, not law)... it's power can become Moot very quickly.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 08, 2025 01:46 PM (QAkQ3)

94 DOGE surprise?

$42 Billion Broadband Boondoggle Brought Internet to Zero Homes

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 08, 2025 01:46 PM (L/fGl)

95 She advertises her maiden name?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 08, 2025 01:44 PM (/U5Yz)

I do that too. My professional credentials are in my maiden name since I got them before I married. Not nefarious, just easier to explain.

Posted by: tcn in AK at April 08, 2025 01:46 PM (eQO/Z)

96 She advertises her maiden name?

Never a good sign.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 08, 2025 01:47 PM (OlZEO)

97 "the federal "workers" are fired until some trial concludes that they must have Federal Jobs for Life."

or Federal Jobs for 20-25 years, then a golden early retirement at the vacation home(s).

Posted by: illiniwek at April 08, 2025 01:47 PM (Cus5s)

98 CNN's even helping me keep track of the wins!

Posted by: JM in Illinois at April 08, 2025 01:47 PM (KY7HO)

99 Flouting the law is about to have real consequences. Elon was talking to Jesse Watters about evidence of very serious crimes.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 08, 2025 01:41 PM (7NKxb)

No doubt. I've been saying for a long time now that unless people start paying a steep PERSONAL price this lawless behavior will continue. It is high past time for the reckoning.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at April 08, 2025 01:47 PM (CNncw)

100 The guy was from Texas

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Wait, he was an American born in Texas?

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Women only need 1200 calories per day at April 08, 2025 01:47 PM (zJgD/)

101 The Parliament of Ladybugs.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 08, 2025 01:47 PM (+nKhw)

102 according to an earlier obama case, kiyemba which was about those lively uighurs who trained in al queda camps,
they have to have notice,

Posted by: miguel cervantes at April 08, 2025 01:47 PM (bXbFr)

103 Thrown out for lack of standing, not lack of self interest...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 08, 2025 01:47 PM (ynpvh)

104 15 ACB is already a huge disappointment. What the hell is wrong with her?
Posted by: bonhomme

For the most part, she was someone without an established record as a judge which makes them into a loose cannon on the bench. Souter was similar even though he was a NH Sup. Ct. judge when appointed and Sandra Day O'Conner was back in her time. Powell before her.

The GOP got into the habit of trying to find stealth candidates before the filibuster on judicial nominees was killed (likewise on appts to Cabinet etc.). These often blew up as unpleasant surprises going back to Eisenhower and Earl Warren/Brennan at the very least.

Roberts is another such judge with a very short record.

Pleasant surprises were Byron White (JFK), William Rehnquist (no background as judge), and Clarence Thomas (scanty legal background).

Notably, Byron White is about the only 'defective' Dem appointed judge since the 60's. None have moved right since then.

Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 01:47 PM (ctrM5)

105
Half the congress is gay?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 08, 2025 01:46 PM (/U5Yz)

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No, we already knew that part.

Posted by: Seems Legit at April 08, 2025 01:47 PM (PMtkd)

106 39 Per the link it's a 7-2 decision, Kagan and Sotomayor dissenting
Posted by: Polka will never die at April 08, 2025 01:39 PM (uxAXv)

No, it was Wise Diabetes and Shadaqua al-Shabazz Jumanji.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at April 08, 2025 01:48 PM (y+qgR)

107 >>In the ruling about the El Salvadoran gang member, the case was not about whether Trump could deport him. It was about the jurisdiction. The guy was from Texas, so the case should have been brought in Texas, not D.C. And it might still be brought in Texas, get the same "No deport" result, then appealed to SCOTUS and granted cert.

That applied to the Habeas Hearing.

Which the Judge then talked the Affiants into dropping because it would require a TX Court.

You are correct that the Judge never had any Jurisdiction in the Case, though.
And he is still filing demands on it...insane.

Posted by: garrett at April 08, 2025 01:48 PM (F30Ty)

108 These hacks in black are playing with fire and don't seem to realize that they'll be among the first to be burned.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at April 08, 2025 01:43 PM (CNncw)
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"Even the appearance of impropriety" is an idea they left in the dust years ago.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 08, 2025 01:48 PM (7NKxb)

109 71 Why would you even want to work at a job where everyone hates you and your boss wants you fired but is forced to allow you to sit in your chair and snarl at him all day? Your daily life would just be endless bad vibes, endless stress.

oh they're all mostly still remote

Posted by: Black Orchid at April 08, 2025 01:48 PM (Pv3Rg)

110 It's time to slap these judges back down into their chambers with a cat-o-nine tails, lock them up, and give them nothing but hardtack and brackish water for 90 days.

Posted by: Rev Wishbone at April 08, 2025 01:48 PM (fY84s)

111 I guess the flu shots worked.

Cleveland Clinic finds employees who received this year's flu vaccine had "significantly higher" rates of flu

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 08, 2025 01:49 PM (L/fGl)

112 An Oregon probation judge just ordered the supreme court to reverse their ruling.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 08, 2025 01:49 PM (zct9C)

113 "Taylor Lorenz, who now contributes to former MSNBC host Mehdi Hasan's website, expressed disappointment when she realized a false report about Biden's death wasn't true."

So she went from a major media columnist to a cob on someone else’s blog? Big oof.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 08, 2025 01:49 PM (3cXfB)

114 Sodameier needs to eat more donuts.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 08, 2025 01:49 PM (+nKhw)

115 Disney is a non profit.
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 08, 2025 01:40 PM (+nKhw)

HAHAHAHAH!

Posted by: runner at April 08, 2025 01:49 PM (g47mK)

116
Why would you even want to work at a job where everyone hates you and your boss wants you fired but is forced to allow you to sit in your chair and snarl at him all day? Your daily life would just be endless bad vibes, endless stress.
Posted by: zombie

===============

And right there you have the hollowness of the firees now fighting back who claim, "I wanted to serve my country!"

I wonder if they know that getting a productive job and contributing to the economy instead of subtracting from it would be nice.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 08, 2025 01:49 PM (asZHj)

117 As far as I'm concerned, DOGE has already proved major fraud.

$20 billion to Stacey Abrams? If say Kamala had won, that woman probably be the first billionaire black woman and everybody would have to say she earned it.

Posted by: Leupold at April 08, 2025 01:49 PM (4pwAx)

118 Those twits should have taken the buyout. Elon would have paid them for six months while they found jobs. Instead, they sue. And how much did that set them back?
Posted by: tcn in AK at April 08, 2025 01:36 PM (eQO/Z)

They didn't sue, some activist sued for them. They might well have taken the buyout.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 01:49 PM (n7h9X)

119 >>Wait, he was an American born in Texas?

No. In custody in Texas.
And your Habeas Hearing has to be in the location you are being held in.

Posted by: garrett at April 08, 2025 01:49 PM (F30Ty)

120 Half the congress is gay?

Half of congress is a pedo

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 08, 2025 01:49 PM (OlZEO)

121 Wait, he was an American born in Texas?
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Women only need 1200 calories per day at April 08, 2025 01:47 PM (zJgD/)

I believe the deportee came from Texas.

Posted by: RickZ at April 08, 2025 01:49 PM (gKDq2)

122 3w34r534er
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
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Wadji go an do that fer-WADJI GO AN DO THAT FER?!1?/?

Posted by: Karl Childers at April 08, 2025 01:49 PM (5hfjS)

123 So grateful, once again, that the Courts, the ultimate, super-executive arbiter of all things in the universe, has consented, this time, on conditions, that the elected President may execute his Constitutionally-anointed responsibilities.

Posted by: Ordinary American at April 08, 2025 01:49 PM (h/ffs)

124 Yeah.... I may not be a legal expert... but I did sleep with a Lawyer at a Holiday Inn once...
Posted by: Romeo13
......

did you wake up with a splitting headache and your wallet missing?
Posted by: wth

Tub of ice and missing kidneys.

Posted by: Pablo Escobar, free range zookeeper at April 08, 2025 01:50 PM (DREZp)

125 In the ruling about the El Salvadoran gang member, the case was not about whether Trump could deport him. It was about the jurisdiction. The guy was from Texas, so the case should have been brought in Texas, not D.C. And it might still be brought in Texas, get the same "No deport" result, then appealed to SCOTUS and granted cert.

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No, they were holding him in Louisiana. That's where the habeus petition should have originated: where he was being held.

Habeus petitions are administrative and get handled by IJs, part of the executive branch.

It's due process, but it's not a trial. It's a quick, executive hearing where they ask, "Do you have proof that you're an American and have a right to be here?"

"No."

"Okay. Get out."

That's why they moved him to LA so fast. No IJ there would do this pony show. That's why the left judge shopped in DC.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 01:51 PM (GBKbO)

126 101 The Parliament of Ladybugs.
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 08, 2025 01:47 PM (+nKhw)

Obligatory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX9J7WcYtxI

Posted by: tcn in AK at April 08, 2025 01:51 PM (eQO/Z)

127 s should have been expected.

With a 6-2 vote, which justice didn't vote?
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One of them doesn't even know what a woman is. I'm surprised she can even find the building they meet in.

Posted by: Crusader at April 08, 2025 01:34 PM (TN0g+)
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She should be the janitor there, not a Justice.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 08, 2025 01:51 PM (YqDXo)

128 97 "the federal "workers" are fired until some trial concludes that they must have Federal Jobs for Life."

or Federal Jobs for 20-25 years, then a golden early retirement at the vacation home(s).
Posted by: illiniwek
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Not going to happen most likely. Probationary appointees are explicitly exempt from an expectation of continued employment. Ironically, firing them all is safer than picking and choosing because all sorts of individual factors then come into play.

See Londoner v. Denver and BiMetallic Investment cases for understanding how due process morphs when it becomes individual basis or when it becomes en masse affecting a class. En masse firings get less protection from due process even if property rights are involved because federal law passed during the Jimmah Carter era explicitly allows RIF aka layoffs en masse circumventing individual protections from firing.

Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 01:51 PM (ctrM5)

129 Hysteric Jackson Heights here.
Posted by: RickZ at April 08, 2025 01:45 PM (gKDq2)

Nice. I was slightly to the west. I pulled a George Jefferson and moved to Manhattan though.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 08, 2025 01:52 PM (uCjyK)

130
Wait, he was an American born in Texas?
Posted by: Boron Cobbie

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No, like he was picked up in Texas.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 08, 2025 01:52 PM (asZHj)

131 19 Alternate headline: Chief Justice finally removes thumb from ass, does literally something.

In fairness, it was somebody else's thumb and quite possibly something other than a thumb.

Posted by: Nelly at April 08, 2025 01:52 PM (pSknm)

132 One might suspect that judge shopping was going on.

No way!

Posted by: Chief Judge James Boasberg, Lord High Executioner! at April 08, 2025 01:52 PM (xTIDn)

133 128 See Londoner v. Denver and BiMetallic Investment cases for understanding how due process morphs when it becomes individual basis or when it becomes en masse affecting a class. En masse firings get less protection from due process even if property rights are involved because federal law passed during the Jimmah Carter era explicitly allows RIF aka layoffs en masse circumventing individual protections from firing.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 01:51 PM (ctrM5)

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Trump is going to end up firing hundreds of thousands of federal employees. Like, half a million is probably the low end.

And it's going to happen fast.

They can learn to weld.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 01:52 PM (GBKbO)

134 Why would you even want to work at a job where everyone hates you and your boss wants you fired but is forced to allow you to sit in your chair and snarl at him all day? Your daily life would just be endless bad vibes, endless stress.
Posted by: zombie

If they have to be brought back, their new job title is K-9 Attack Dummy, GS-3.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 08, 2025 01:52 PM (VNX3d)

135 130
Wait, he was an American born in Texas?
Posted by: Boron Cobbie

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No, like he was picked up in Texas.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 08, 2025 01:52 PM (asZHj)

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Picked up in NY. Moved to NJ within 30 minutes. Flown to the Southwest that night.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 01:53 PM (GBKbO)

136 Wait, he was an American born in Texas?

No. In custody in Texas.
And your Habeas Hearing has to be in the location you are being held in.
Posted by: garrett

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Thanks.

Not an American, then he's lucky he's not shipped to Antartica.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Women only need 1200 calories per day at April 08, 2025 01:53 PM (zJgD/)

137 12Oooh, Karoline confirms re Trump's hint last Thursday about a big DOGE announcement that there has been "a discovery" but she can't tell us what it is yet.

USAID financed DNC's hit on Seth Rich.

Posted by: Auspex at April 08, 2025 01:53 PM (j4U/Z)

138 114 Sodameier needs to eat more donuts.
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 08, 2025 01:49 PM (+nKhw)

She needs to eat a bag of something, that's certain.

Posted by: tcn in AK at April 08, 2025 01:53 PM (eQO/Z)

139 Who's going to poop in the hallways?

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 08, 2025 01:53 PM (+nKhw)

140 134 Why would you even want to work at a job where everyone hates you and your boss wants you fired but is forced to allow you to sit in your chair and snarl at him all day? Your daily life would just be endless bad vibes, endless stress.
Posted by: zombie

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Because the Deep State can outlast any president and will rule forever.

Just ask the Mandarins in China.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 01:53 PM (GBKbO)

141 Sodamayor needs to eat more donuts.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 08, 2025 01:49 PM (+nKhw)
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I keep sending her cheesecakes.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 08, 2025 01:53 PM (YqDXo)

142 I think I am as dumb as a box of rocks when laws are discussed

Posted by: Skip at April 08, 2025 01:54 PM (ypFCm)

143 Andrew Branca at Law of Self Defense has been doing good coverage of these cases.

Also, Robert Goveia Esq / Watching the Watchers.

Both on youtube.

Posted by: garrett at April 08, 2025 01:54 PM (F30Ty)

144 Chocolate

Posted by: Skip at April 08, 2025 01:54 PM (ypFCm)

145 One thing this Karmelo Anthony murder is reinforcing to me is how many people have a cargo cult understanding of self defense principles.

Stand your ground and "I felt threatened" are not magic incantations. A person grabbing your backpack or touching you are not lethal threats that give you free rein to unleash hell.

SYG just means you don't have a duty to retreat from a lethal threat before being able to defend yourself. It doesn't mean you get to respond to a unquestionably non-lethal threat with lethal violence.

Someone being mildly aggressive is not "being the aggressor" that can then be killed with impunity.

I'm seeing so many people online argue Anthony had the right to stand his ground, that Metcalf was the aggressor, and therefore he was completely justified to commit any violence against Metcalf he had at his disposal. It's cargo cult self defense reasoning.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 08, 2025 01:54 PM (lIio7)

146
No, like he was picked up in Texas.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 08, 2025 01:52 PM (asZHj)

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Picked up in NY. Moved to NJ within 30 minutes. Flown to the Southwest that night.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman

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Ah, correction, Boron Robbie, he was detained in TX, not picked up there.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 08, 2025 01:55 PM (asZHj)

147 If they have to be brought back, their new job title is K-9 Attack Dummy, GS-3.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 08, 2025 01:52 PM (VNX3d)

I'll settle for vaccine test dummies.

Posted by: RickZ at April 08, 2025 01:55 PM (gKDq2)

148 Posted by: tcn in AK at April 08, 2025 01:45 PM (eQO/Z)

True enough.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 08, 2025 01:55 PM (lFFaq)

149 Republicans are entirely, every single one, racist and would rather end Democracy than elect a black woman, says Princeton professor.

Alternate view: Princeton hired this clown because the university wanted to display diversity as a value signal and now has to live with his shallow, disgusting, racist attacks on America (link goes to a Fox repost of an MSNBC short video).

https://tinyurl.com/5n7p47bn

Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 08, 2025 01:55 PM (T4wTF)

150 Let's not forget, feral employees now receive SS in addition to their pensions at retirement age thanks from the helpful GOP. You can't hate these people enough.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 08, 2025 01:55 PM (/U5Yz)

151 USAID financed DNC's hit on Seth Rich.
Posted by: Auspex at April 08, 2025 01:53 PM (j4U/Z)

lol. I think the Seth Rich story will likely never be told. At least in our lifetimes.

Speaking of which, remember that time Jeffrey Epstein "killed himself"? I thought we were supposed to get the full Epstein file released a few months ago. What happened to that?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 08, 2025 01:55 PM (uCjyK)

152 Because the Deep State can outlast any president and will rule forever.

Just ask the Mandarins in China.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 01:53 PM (GBKbO)
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I hate to break it to you but something important happened in 1911.

Posted by: Orson after having a few at April 08, 2025 01:55 PM (ZOv7s)

153 Who's going to poop in the hallways?
Posted by: Boss Moss

"Introducing the Poop-Bot 9000~!" - Elon Musk.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 08, 2025 01:55 PM (mlg/3)

154 149 Republicans are entirely, every single one, racist and would rather end Democracy than elect a black woman, says Princeton professor.

Alternate view: Princeton hired this clown because the university wanted to display diversity as a value signal and now has to live with his shallow, disgusting, racist attacks on America (link goes to a Fox repost of an MSNBC short video).

https://tinyurl.com/5n7p47bn
Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 08, 2025 01:55 PM (T4wTF)

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Kamala didn't win because 6 million Democrat voters disappeared.

Guess they're not racist. They just didn't exist?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 01:56 PM (GBKbO)

155 Roberts is really hoping SCOTUS doesn't have to deal with the national TRO problem.

The left is going to force his hand. Roberts is probably thinking the lower courts will wise up before Roberts has to sully the legal process through telling lower courts to knock it off.

Roberts refuses to understand rabid lefties are incapable of learning anything.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 08, 2025 01:56 PM (tT6L1)

156 36 15 ACB is already a huge disappointment. What the hell is wrong with her?
Posted by: bonhomme at April 08, 2025 01:35 PM (lIio7)

The problem with her is that "our side" picks "rock ribbed conservative judges" who "don't believe in judicial activism."

You know, guys like Earl Warren, David Souter and John Roberts.

It would be nice if we picked judges who DID believe in judicial activism, but unfortunately the failure theater department of the Deep State does not approve.

Occasionally some sneak in, like Thomas or Scalia (as long as drugs weren't involved! If drugs were involved, he was Earl Warren 2.0). But very rarely.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 08, 2025 01:38 PM (uCjyK)

For the next couple of SCOTUS picks, Trump should simply ask Thomas and Alito whom they'd recommend for any vacant seat.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 08, 2025 01:56 PM (V1Js5)

157
I think I am as dumb as a box of rocks when laws are discussed
Posted by: Skip

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I only know what I read. So, same. (high-five)

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 08, 2025 01:56 PM (asZHj)

158 100 The guy was from Texas

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Wait, he was an American born in Texas?
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Women only need 1200 calories per day at April 08, 2025 01:47 PM (zJgD/)

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Would this be a good time to throw the Elian Gonzales case back in the left's faces

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at April 08, 2025 01:56 PM (eqIFx)

159 152 Because the Deep State can outlast any president and will rule forever.

Just ask the Mandarins in China.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 01:53 PM (GBKbO)
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I hate to break it to you but something important happened in 1911.
Posted by: Orson after having a few at April 08, 2025 01:55 PM (ZOv7s)

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No!

Entrenched power centers last forever!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 01:56 PM (GBKbO)

160 "Taylor Lorenz, who now contributes to former MSNBC host Mehdi Hasan's website, expressed disappointment when she realized a false report about Biden's death wasn't true."
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Is Mehdi Hasan looking over his shoulder for ICE agents?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 08, 2025 01:56 PM (YqDXo)

161 "Can't we just say that Thomas's opinion counts twice?"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 08, 2025 01:57 PM (VoAdT)

162 149 Republicans are entirely, every single one, racist and would rather end Democracy than elect a black woman, says Princeton professor.

Alternate view: Princeton hired this clown because the university wanted to display diversity as a value signal and now has to live with his shallow, disgusting, racist attacks on America (link goes to a Fox repost of an MSNBC short video).

https://tinyurl.com/5n7p47bn
Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 08, 2025 01:55 PM (T4wTF)

If they truly believe: a) all republicans are racist who wouldnt vote for a black woman and b) Trump is a going to be the "end of democracy" then why in the hell would they ever nominate Kamala? Or Obama for that matter?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 08, 2025 01:57 PM (uCjyK)

163 155 Roberts is really hoping SCOTUS doesn't have to deal with the national TRO problem.

The left is going to force his hand. Roberts is probably thinking the lower courts will wise up before Roberts has to sully the legal process through telling lower courts to knock it off.

Roberts refuses to understand rabid lefties are incapable of learning anything.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 08, 2025 01:56 PM (tT6L1)

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The jurisdiction ruling, really the only point of the Boesberg ruling, will kill a lot of it right away.

And, think.

3 weeks was the period from Boesberg's first TRO to the killing of his entire case.

That's light speed in terms of the judiciary.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 01:57 PM (GBKbO)

164 One thing this Karmelo Anthony murder is reinforcing to me is how many people have a cargo cult understanding of self defense principles.

Stand your ground and "I felt threatened" are not magic incantations. A person grabbing your backpack or touching you are not lethal threats that give you free rein to unleash hell.

SYG just means you don't have a duty to retreat from a lethal threat before being able to defend yourself. It doesn't mean you get to respond to a unquestionably non-lethal threat with lethal violence.

Someone being mildly aggressive is not "being the aggressor" that can then be killed with impunity.

I'm seeing so many people online argue Anthony had the right to stand his ground, that Metcalf was the aggressor, and therefore he was completely justified to commit any violence against Metcalf he had at his disposal. It's cargo cult self defense reasoning.
Posted by: bonhomme

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They know. It's a joke. That's not hyperbole. It's a joke to them. You hear them reference "stand your ground!!!" stuff all the time for promoting violence against normals

They're doing it on purpose. Using it as a wedge and hopefully an attempt to get stand your ground laws removed.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Women only need 1200 calories per day at April 08, 2025 01:57 PM (zJgD/)

165 I love how the party of "good government" is basically crippling the bureaucracy it's claiming to defend with judicial micromanagement.

Posted by: Orson after having a few at April 08, 2025 01:58 PM (ZOv7s)

166 162 If they truly believe: a) all republicans are racist who wouldnt vote for a black woman and b) Trump is a going to be the "end of democracy" then why in the hell would they ever nominate Kamala? Or Obama for that matter?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 08, 2025 01:57 PM (uCjyK)

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Why would they stay in country?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 01:58 PM (GBKbO)

167 Remember when the argument was we weren't paying Fed Gov employees enough to get top talent?

Well, if the people don't want to go even when you fire them I don't think we have a problem with attracting people that want government jobs...

Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2025 01:58 PM (t0Rmr)

168 Republicans are entirely, every single one, racist and would rather end Democracy than elect a black woman, says Princeton professor.

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Thanks for noticing.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Women only need 1200 calories per day at April 08, 2025 01:58 PM (zJgD/)

169 Republicans are entirely, every single one, racist and would rather end Democracy than elect a black woman, says Princeton professor.
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An alternative take: Democracy and the rule of law goes out the window when a black woman is given a position of power. "Fundamentally non-serious" choice.

Posted by: Crusader at April 08, 2025 01:58 PM (TN0g+)

170 I hate to break it to you but something important happened in 1911.

Posted by: Orson after having a few at April 08, 2025 01:55 PM (ZOv7s)
______________

Browning invented the 1911 ACP?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 08, 2025 01:58 PM (YqDXo)

171 Roberts might hope the lower courts sort it out but they seem to gotten taken over by the Sundowner administration to favor the Deep State and Marxists

Posted by: Skip at April 08, 2025 01:59 PM (ypFCm)

172 165 I love how the party of "good government" is basically crippling the bureaucracy it's claiming to defend with judicial micromanagement.
Posted by: Orson after having a few at April 08, 2025 01:58 PM (ZOv7s)

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They have literally nothing else than judicial shitposting.

Congress is out of their hands. Trump is actually exerting control over the exective.

Shitposting from the bench is all they can do...and it flies in the face of decades of building caselaw that has been peeling back at the diffusion of the executive that started under FDR and continued until about Nixon.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 01:59 PM (GBKbO)

173 That applied to the Habeas Hearing.

Which the Judge then talked the Affiants into dropping because it would require a TX Court.

You are correct that the Judge never had any Jurisdiction in the Case, though.
And he is still filing demands on it...insane.
Posted by: garrett
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Yep. Boasberg stepped into a cow patty legally speaking.

Jurisdiction is something that every lawyer is taught at the very basic level as key for winning appellate decisions. Same as justiciability (standing, mootness, political question, etc. )

Difference is jurisdiction is in control of Congress via its statutes and justiciability is an inherent power of the courts. Boasberg confused the two and conflated removal case with the APA when existing AEA jurisprudence already held decades ago that the proper remedy was habeas instead of his idiotic (legally speaking) attempt to argue it was a rulemaking case.

Judges should never be advocates and far too many lawyers elevated to high court ignore that (almost all of them leftists).

Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 01:59 PM (ctrM5)

174 124 Yeah.... I may not be a legal expert... but I did sleep with a Lawyer at a Holiday Inn once...
Posted by: Romeo13
......

did you wake up with a splitting headache and your wallet missing?
Posted by: wth

Tub of ice and missing kidneys
......

Trash is missing and your dogs are pregnant?

Posted by: Polka will never die at April 08, 2025 01:59 PM (uxAXv)

175 An alternative take: Democracy and the rule of law goes out the window when a black woman is given a position of power. "Fundamentally non-serious" choice.

Posted by: Crusader at April 08, 2025 01:58 PM (TN0g+)
________________

THIS.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 08, 2025 01:59 PM (YqDXo)

176 Republicans are entirely, every single one, racist and would rather end Democracy than elect a black woman, says Princeton professor.

Didn't the democrats just have a much lower turnout when they nominated a black woman over an old white pedophile?

That seems pretty racist too me.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2025 01:59 PM (t0Rmr)

177 For the next couple of SCOTUS picks, Trump should simply ask Thomas and Alito whom they'd recommend for any vacant seat.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 08, 2025 01:56 PM (V1Js5)

Good idea.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 08, 2025 02:00 PM (8zz6B)

178 that case, is why all these protestations ring hollow to me,

it was his mothers dying wish, that elian would make to this country,

and it was vekakte characters like greg craig and eric holder who had him sent back,

Posted by: miguel cervantes at April 08, 2025 02:00 PM (bXbFr)

179 71 Why would you even want to work at a job where everyone hates you and your boss wants you fired but is forced to allow you to sit in your chair and snarl at him all day? Your daily life would just be endless bad vibes, endless stress.
Posted by: zombie at April 08, 2025 01:43 PM (pMi6S)

Because the real work world is big and scary...

Government jobs are for those liberal women who hate their father, the patriarchy and men. They want to be free and independent and government is their father and protector.

Posted by: Stateless...86% - mental state clawing up from 10% at April 08, 2025 02:00 PM (jvJvP)

180
Republicans are entirely, every single one, racist and would rather end Democracy than elect a black woman, says Princeton professor.

https://tinyurl.com/5n7p47bn
Posted by: Huck Follywood

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Waat? Still on this? Jeez, all that was said on Election Night and all week after that. Move on, dude. There's firings, deportations, tariffs, all kinds of things to talk about.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 08, 2025 02:00 PM (asZHj)

181 176 Didn't the democrats just have a much lower turnout when they nominated a black woman over an old white pedophile?

That seems pretty racist too me.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2025 01:59 PM (t0Rmr)

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Either Democrats are racist, or 6 million Democrat voters in 2020 are fake.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 02:00 PM (GBKbO)

182 >>Republicans are entirely, every single one, racist and would rather end Democracy than elect a black woman, says Princeton professor.

This couldn't be a more misinformed opinion.

We wouldn't vote for a woman, regardless of their race.

Posted by: garrett at April 08, 2025 02:00 PM (F30Ty)

183 Testing

Posted by: Skip at April 08, 2025 02:01 PM (ypFCm)

184
They're doing it on purpose. Using it as a wedge and hopefully an attempt to get stand your ground laws removed.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Women only need 1200 calories per day at April 08, 2025 01:57 PM (zJgD/)
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Having a retarded understanding of basic law won't actually change the law, but it will get you arrested.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 08, 2025 02:01 PM (ZOv7s)

185 182
We wouldn't vote for a woman, regardless of their race.
Posted by: garrett at April 08, 2025 02:00 PM (F30Ty)

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*considers mentioning Sarah Palin*

*thinks better of mentioning Sarah Palin and does not mention Sarah Palin*

*does own part to keep thread Sarah Palin free*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 02:01 PM (GBKbO)

186 Republicans are entirely, every single one, racist and would rather end Democracy than elect a black woman, says black Princeton professor.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 08, 2025 02:01 PM (YqDXo)

187 Either Democrats are racist, or 6 million Democrat voters in 2020 are fake.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 02:00 PM (GBKbO)

AND

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 08, 2025 02:01 PM (VNX3d)

188 156 36 15 ACB is already a huge disappointment. What the hell is wrong with her?
Posted by: bonhomme at April 08, 2025 01:35 PM (lIio7)

She is who she is, a lazily conservative, primly virtue-signaling, academic attorney with zero trial experience who clearly looks down on the uncouth Trump.

Posted by: Ordinary American at April 08, 2025 02:01 PM (h/ffs)

189 For the next couple of SCOTUS picks, Trump should simply ask Thomas and Alito whom they'd recommend for any vacant seat.
Posted by: Darrell Harris

www.mitchisstillalive.com

Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 08, 2025 02:01 PM (/U5Yz)

190 I hate to break it to you but something important happened in 1911.

Posted by: Orson after having a few at April 08, 2025 01:55 PM (ZOv7s)
______________

Browning invented the 1911 ACP?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Bleriot flew over the English Channel.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 08, 2025 02:01 PM (zct9C)

191 150 Let's not forget, feral employees now receive SS in addition to their pensions at retirement age thanks from the helpful GOP. You can't hate these people enough.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 08, 2025 01:55 PM (/U5Yz)

Thanks for your hate. I don't think I earned it, but you do you. Just as in the private sector, there are those who do real work that matters and those who sandbag. I disliked the sandbaggers not just because they wasted taxpayer dollars but because they made my job harder. I had no say in how those folks were paid or for how long. I performed professionally, helped others do the same, and I believe I served the military mission in a way I could be proud of my accomplishments.

But you go on painting with that brush if it makes you feel better.

Posted by: tcn in AK at April 08, 2025 02:02 PM (eQO/Z)

192 Republicans are entirely, every single one, racist and would rather end Democracy than elect a black woman, says Princeton professor of African-American studies.

I say no more.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 08, 2025 02:02 PM (YqDXo)

193 Why would you even want to work at a job where everyone hates you and your boss wants you fired but is forced to allow you to sit in your chair and snarl at him all day? Your daily life would just be endless bad vibes, endless stress.
Posted by: zombie at April 08, 2025 01:43 PM (pMi6S)
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I'm reliably informed that a lot of those employees refused reinstatement for the reason. Some took it but immediately applied for the buy-out.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 08, 2025 02:02 PM (ZOv7s)

194 DOGE surprise?

$42 Billion Broadband Boondoggle Brought Internet to Zero Homes
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 08, 2025 01:46 PM (L/fGl)

I can't even hazard a good guess as to what the surprise might be, but I hope I'm ACTUALLY surprised. All of the sh*t coming out so far has me saying "Wow, who's surprised?" I'd like to think I'm not that cynical, but I guess I am.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at April 08, 2025 02:02 PM (k9OZB)

195 Someone being mildly aggressive is not "being the aggressor" that can then be killed with impunity.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie
_________

If Indiana Jones had to rely on SYG rules, would he have been justified in shooting the sword guy from 30 feet?

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at April 08, 2025 02:02 PM (Dm8we)

196 It's amazing how the left always knows where to go to land in front of a judge that will grant them anything they ask for.

I wonder what the full score is so far, 75% or so of the cases have gone their way in getting TROs?
It's a guess but it seems close.

I also like how John Roberts always seems to jump in just in time to save the judiciary from itself when it's about to face a huge PR disaster.

If you're going to be a politician, John, then let's make you all politicians.

I know I won't like what an elected federal judiciary will look like, but at least that way we'll all have a chance to change the system when it's being turned into another institution conquered by the left and worn as a skin-suit.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at April 08, 2025 02:02 PM (6ydKt)

197 They're doing it on purpose. Using it as a wedge and hopefully an attempt to get stand your ground laws removed.

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Having a retarded understanding of basic law won't actually change the law, but it will get you arrested.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

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The trick is to scare enough middle class white women. That's the goal.

See also: BLM riots and murders (please just give them what they want so they'll stop)

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Women only need 1200 calories per day at April 08, 2025 02:02 PM (zJgD/)

198 >>Republicans are entirely, every single one, racist and would rather end Democracy than elect a black woman, says Princeton professor.

This couldn't be a more misinformed opinion.

We wouldn't vote for a woman, regardless of their race.
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I can tell some of you didn't like that take...well, it was written by a woman!

Just kidding, we don't hire women.

Posted by: Zombie Norm MacDonald at April 08, 2025 02:02 PM (TN0g+)

199 Yay. There are some cases where probationary employees were actually senior researchers that had been newly promoted or moved to new labs but I'm sure that if the heads of those agencies took the time to Do Their Jobs, there is a process to say "wait, this is not really a probationary employee, they are critical to the agency mission." But a lot of these agency managers are disgruntled snots that just wanted to disrupt things to generate anti-Trump headlines.

Posted by: PaleRider at April 08, 2025 02:03 PM (CKOCg)

200 I might have my mesh extender worked

Posted by: Skip at April 08, 2025 02:03 PM (ypFCm)

201 OT: My insurance company turned down paying for xdemvy for my upcoming cataract surgery, probably because it’s over $2k for 10ml, I went back to my doc and said is there anything else, she said let me make a couple of calls, and 20 minutes later I got a link to the compounder for the medication with a 2k off coupon and the final cost was 30 dollars.

So there that.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 08, 2025 02:03 PM (GPdEW)

202 Either Democrats are racist, or 6 million Democrat voters in 2020 are fake.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 02:00 PM (GBKbO)

I think this is one of those AND situations.

Posted by: BruceWayne at April 08, 2025 02:04 PM (MGB5H)

203 If Indiana Jones had to rely on SYG rules, would he have been justified in shooting the sword guy from 30 feet?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at April 08, 2025 02:02 PM (Dm8we)

Han shot first for a reason.

Posted by: Just Lily at April 08, 2025 02:04 PM (RN+CH)

204 ACB is already a huge disappointment. What the hell is wrong with her?
Posted by: bonhomme at April 08, 2025 01:35 PM (lIio7)

She is who she is, a lazily conservative, primly virtue-signaling, academic attorney with zero trial experience who clearly looks down on the uncouth Trump.
Posted by: Ordinary American at April 08, 2025 02:01 PM (h/ffs)
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She overturned Roe, Chevron and has generally been good on the 2A. We really have spoiled by all the winning.

She is heads and shoulders over the last 20 years of "conservative" picks. Obviously, Thomas, Alito being the exceptions.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 08, 2025 02:04 PM (ZOv7s)

205 Why would you even want to work at a job where everyone hates you and your boss wants you fired but is forced to allow you to sit in your chair and snarl at him all day? Your daily life would just be endless bad vibes, endless stress.
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Because the real work world is big and scary...

Government jobs are for those liberal women who hate their father, the patriarchy and men. They want to be free and independent and government is their father and protector.
Posted by: Stateless...86%

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I have to admit that this is one of the funniest elements of Strong and Independent Aint Need No Man modernity.

Refuse to have a husband, dutifully report to and obey bossman who doesn't even know your middle name.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Women only need 1200 calories per day at April 08, 2025 02:04 PM (zJgD/)

206 ...I'm seeing so many people online argue Anthony had the right to stand his ground, that Metcalf was the aggressor, and therefore he was completely justified to commit any violence against Metcalf he had at his disposal. It's cargo cult self defense reasoning.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 08, 2025 01:54 PM (lIio7)

You had a good explanation of why Stand Your Ground is in play here but in my opinion these defenders of the black "honor student" are nothing more than racists. He was black and thus can do anything he wants, without consequence. Seems to me that rather than 'white privilege' what we are seeing here is the exact opposite. IMHO.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at April 08, 2025 02:04 PM (CNncw)

207 DOGE surprise?

$42 Billion Broadband Boondoggle Brought Internet to Zero Homes
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 08, 2025 01:46 PM (L/fGl)

I can't even hazard a good guess as to what the surprise might be, but I hope I'm ACTUALLY surprised. All of the sh*t coming out so far has me saying "Wow, who's surprised?" I'd like to think I'm not that cynical, but I guess I am.
Posted by: hobbitopoly at April 08, 2025 02:02 PM (k9OZB)

...Next they're going to give us the shocking news that the billions "spent" on EV charging stations disappeared in to thin air.

Yeah, we know, Elon. We know.

When are the indictments coming?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 08, 2025 02:04 PM (uCjyK)

208 3 weeks was the period from Boesberg's first TRO to the killing of his entire case.

That's light speed in terms of the judiciary.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 01:57 PM (GBKbO)

Yeah I think the true beef with Roberts and the Squish justices is that Trump is making them hurry to do the right thing, not that they want to block him. It points out the fact that there is a serious flaw in these TROs that they don't want to admit. They don't want to have to fix the activist judges now, they are wishing they will stop.

I think that's why there's a defector to make 5-4 rules, rotating about. To try and make these farcical TROs look more 'reasonable' to those not paying attention

Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 02:04 PM (n7h9X)

209 the fall of the manchu dynasty, which led to the republic until chiang and the warlords,

Posted by: miguel cervantes at April 08, 2025 02:05 PM (bXbFr)

210 3 weeks was the period from Boesberg's first TRO to the killing of his entire case.

That's light speed in terms of the judiciary.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 01:57 PM (GBKbO)
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Fair enough, though it still looks like Roberts is dodging the national TRO problem.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 08, 2025 02:05 PM (tT6L1)

211 190 I hate to break it to you but something important happened in 1911.

Posted by: Orson after having a few at April 08, 2025 01:55 PM (ZOv7s)
______________

Browning invented the 1911 ACP?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Bleriot flew over the English Channel.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 08, 2025 02:01 PM (zct9C)

-- --

The Republic of China was formed.

Standard Oil was broken up.

And Amundsen reached the South Pole.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at April 08, 2025 02:05 PM (6ydKt)

212 Bleriot flew over the English Channel.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 08, 2025 02:01 PM (zct9C)

His brother emigrated to Canada, and built a cable ferry across the Red Deer River a few miles upstream from the town of Drumheller. Ferry still runs, to this day. And is called the Bleriot Ferry.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 08, 2025 02:06 PM (8zz6B)

213 Every Democrat plot to steal money wasn't to help the Publix, just to line pockets of Democrats backers

Posted by: Skip at April 08, 2025 02:06 PM (ypFCm)

214 She overturned Roe, Chevron and has generally been good on the 2A. We really have spoiled by all the winning.

She is heads and shoulders over the last 20 years of "conservative" picks. Obviously, Thomas, Alito being the exceptions.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 08, 2025 02:04 PM (ZOv7s)

Yeah, but why can't we put MAGA activists on the bench?

Why do we need to settle for "sometimes on our side, sometimes on the side of "the institution", sometimes wants to defer to stare decisis and precedence"

The other side certainly doesn't. They only nominate confirmed hyper partisans.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 08, 2025 02:06 PM (uCjyK)

215 If the plaintiffs had no standing (e.g. were not the aggrieved parties) then this case (for the 16,000) is dead.

Posted by: actaully inside the beltway at April 08, 2025 02:06 PM (h2KMk)

216 In regards to the stabbing...
I don't think any of them care about legality and stand your ground etc.
They simply hate white people and fetishize black on white violence.
Act accordingly

Posted by: Cmonman at April 08, 2025 02:07 PM (/tTUc)

217 Nine "non-profit" organizations sued to reinstate the "workers." Note that the workers themselves didn't sue.
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I note that some Associaton of non-profits is now running TV ads promoting donations to non-profits.

A look at https://www.councilofnonprofits.org/ is interesting. The anti-Trump bias is strong:

"Judge Issues National Injunction to Block Trump Administration’s Devastating Attempt to Halt Funding For Essential Services"

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 08, 2025 02:07 PM (XeU6L)

218 Republicans are entirely, every single one, racist and would rather end Democracy than elect a black woman, says Princeton professor.
______________

Gonna be a hell of a convention:

Fani Willis/Tiffany Henyard 2028!

Karen Bass/Letitia James 2028!

Lori Lightfoot/London Breed 2028!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 08, 2025 02:07 PM (YqDXo)

219 I have to admit that this is one of the funniest elements of Strong and Independent Aint Need No Man modernity.

Refuse to have a husband, dutifully report to and obey bossman who doesn't even know your middle name.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Women only need 1200 calories per day at April 08, 2025 02:04 PM (zJgD/)

Also what was behind the 1970s feminism pre man hating version. Get young women out away from family and local influence where their bosses could throw money around in front of them.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 02:07 PM (n7h9X)

220 So there that.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 08, 2025 02:03 PM (GPdEW)

That is what is officially called "the profit margin", right?

Posted by: Kindltot - eight furry chickens in white wine at April 08, 2025 02:07 PM (D7oie)

221 171 Roberts might hope the lower courts sort it out but they seem to gotten taken over by the Sundowner administration to favor the Deep State and Marxists
Posted by: Skip

The Dems have appointed activists instead of judges for decades now and this is the rotten fruit.

Ironically, Earl Warren set the std. for dealing with recalcitrant lower court judges opposing desegregation. Then again, Scotus routinely addressed about double the cases that our current court does. That is one of the few shitty things done that Rehnquist started as Chief Justice.

Part of it was avoiding bad rulings by the Rehnquist court defectors but Roberts really had less of an excuse.

Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 02:08 PM (ctrM5)

222
Back to the post topic..

Hilarious the way Andrea Mitchell says "just handed Trump ANOTHER win," as if it's been nothing but breezing to victory after victory for this administration.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 08, 2025 02:08 PM (asZHj)

223 All they had to do was reply to a single email...

Bonkers

Posted by: melodicmetal1 at April 08, 2025 02:09 PM (61TgR)

224 So when will a district court judge overturn the Supreme Court ruling?

Posted by: Cray Cray at April 08, 2025 02:09 PM (amYJF)

225 Republicans are entirely, every single one, racist and would rather end Democracy than elect a black woman, says Princeton professor.

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The Civil War was just a head fake.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 08, 2025 02:09 PM (L/fGl)

226 3 weeks was the period from Boesberg's first TRO to the killing of his entire case.

That's light speed in terms of the judiciary.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 01:57 PM (GBKbO)
____________

But they're in the office at 0730 on Saturday morning!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 08, 2025 02:09 PM (YqDXo)

227
Gonna be a hell of a convention:

Fani Willis/Tiffany Henyard 2028!

Karen Bass/Letitia James 2028!

Lori Lightfoot/London Breed 2028!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 08, 2025 02:07 PM (YqDXo)

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Stacy Abrams/Jasmine Crockett 2028!

Posted by: SpeakingOf at April 08, 2025 02:10 PM (6ydKt)

228 Elect me President and I'll release the Seth Rich files!

Posted by: Durk McSwahiliberg, 2088 Down With Cyborgs! Party Candidate for President of What's Left at April 08, 2025 02:10 PM (qUkBO)

229 Back to the post topic..

Hilarious the way Andrea Mitchell says "just handed Trump ANOTHER win," as if it's been nothing but breezing to victory after victory for this administration.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 08, 2025 02:08 PM (asZHj)

Nothing about the lower judges being wrong, and needed to be corrected? Of course not. Judges are their white knights in shining armor!

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 08, 2025 02:10 PM (VNX3d)

230 but in my opinion these defenders of the black "honor student" are nothing more than racists. He was black and thus can do anything he wants, without consequence...
Posted by: Chairborne!

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That's pretty much it in a nutshell.

I was recently thinking about how blacks have isolated themselves with all the protection, anger, etc. Remember back in the 70s and 80s when you could joke with coworkers?

Hispanics have taken that place. They have a sense of humor about them, and you can joke with them and they'll joke back. And when it happens it's neat to remember how it wasn't mean-spirited but just goofing off. Men always have that threat of violence so it never goes too far (and that's another conversation re: Strong and Independent language knowing there are sex-based societal protections), but just fun teasing and often self-deprecation.

It's weird to remember how fun the world used to be.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Women only need 1200 calories per day at April 08, 2025 02:10 PM (zJgD/)

231 Nothing about the lower judges being wrong, and needed to be corrected? Of course not. Judges are their white knights in shining armor!
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 08, 2025 02:10 PM (VNX3d)

To the DC types, the court system is just another arm of politics.

It's not about right or wrong, it's about power.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 08, 2025 02:10 PM (uCjyK)

232 79
ACB is already a huge disappointment. What the hell is wrong with her?

she bases her rulings on likes on Instagram
Posted by: brak

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Just to clarify: In the ruling about the El Salvadoran gang member, the case was not about whether Trump could deport him. It was about the jurisdiction. The guy was from Texas, so the case should have been brought in Texas, not D.C. And it might still be brought in Texas, get the same "No deport" result, then appealed to SCOTUS and granted cert. If that happens, THEN we'll know how she feels about the deportation order.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 08, 2025 01:44 PM (asZHj)

'Feels' being the key word. Unfortunately ACB has turned out to be little different from Wise Latina and Ketanji 'I dunno what a woman is', too often voting on feelz, not on the law.

Kagan seems to base her votes less on her feelz than the other three women Justices.

Posted by: Gref at April 08, 2025 02:11 PM (aBgBM)

233 @220

>>That is what is officially called "the profit margin", right?

The cost could be entirely legitimate, as apparently, there are no other drugs approved for that purpose, blepharitis.

I would have paid it push came to shove, but I wasn’t goong to pay it without doing due diligence.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 08, 2025 02:11 PM (GPdEW)

234 Yeah, but why can't we put MAGA activists on the bench?

Why do we need to settle for "sometimes on our side, sometimes on the side of "the institution", sometimes wants to defer to stare decisis and precedence"

The other side certainly doesn't. They only nominate confirmed hyper partisans.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 08, 2025 02:06 PM (uCjyK)

Right now the reason is the rump of the GOPe still can veto a judicial confirmation. This won't last long as that faction is dead as an influence going forward. a Trump-Vance-Elon-De Santis GOP will not stand for it and if the Dems really are 21 percenters there will be TONS of new Reps that are MAGA adjacent.

Remember the national GOP center was torpedoing Tea Party and MAGA candidates for a couple decades.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 02:11 PM (n7h9X)

235 218 Republicans are entirely, every single one, racist and would rather end Democracy than elect a black woman, says Princeton professor.
______________

Gonna be a hell of a convention:

Fani Willis/Tiffany Henyard 2028!

Karen Bass/Letitia James 2028!

Lori Lightfoot/London Breed 2028!
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 08, 2025 02:07 PM (YqDXo)

OT, but it strikes me as funny that we saw no protests in CA after the Palisades Fire, but we see tons of protests against Elon. If any politicians deserved protests for the way they ran their respective cities, it would have been Bass, Lightfoot and Breed. Instead, we got crickets.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 08, 2025 02:11 PM (V1Js5)

236 If , God forbid, Sotomayor shucks off this mortal coil , the Dems will lose their shit on steroids. They realize Trump will appoint a young conservative who will be on the bench 25+ years. The person could get a celibate monk and the old "victims" will come out of the woodwork

Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 08, 2025 02:12 PM (6TePA)

237 Bisy backson, y'all have fun

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Women only need 1200 calories per day at April 08, 2025 02:12 PM (zJgD/)

238 3w34r534er

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 08, 2025 01:30 PM (asZHj)

"I don't get it"

- TJM, 98.34% probability

Posted by: Doof at April 08, 2025 02:13 PM (vf0Y9)

239 You had a good explanation of why Stand Your Ground is in play here but in my opinion these defenders of the black "honor student" are nothing more than racists.
_______________

What "honor student" walks around with a knife like that?

And what does it take to be an "honor student" at MLK High?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 08, 2025 02:13 PM (YqDXo)

240
I note that some Associaton of non-profits is now running TV ads promoting donations to non-profits.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.

===============

I'm just loving the end of USAID.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 08, 2025 02:13 PM (asZHj)

241 238 3w34r534er

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 08, 2025 01:30 PM (asZHj)

"I don't get it"

- TJM, 98.34% probability
Posted by: Doof at April 08, 2025 02:13 PM (vf0Y9)

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*pulls finger out of nose*
*drools*
*farts*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 02:13 PM (GBKbO)

242 If Indiana Jones had to rely on SYG rules, would he have been justified in shooting the sword guy from 30 feet?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at April 08, 2025 02:02 PM (Dm8we)

Han shot first for a reason.
Posted by: Just Lily
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There was a Gunsmoke segment where some famed hired killer was brought in to finish off Matt Dillon. In the street confrontation, Dillon drew and shot the guy. Afterwards, Chester said, 'My gosh mister Dillon, why did you draw first?' Dillon: 'Because I didn't want to die, Chester'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 08, 2025 02:13 PM (XeU6L)

243 3w34r534er

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 08, 2025 01:30 PM (asZHj)

"I don't get it"

- TJM, 98.34% probability
Posted by: Doof at April 08, 2025 02:13 PM (vf0Y9)

Biden was typing his suicide note?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 08, 2025 02:13 PM (VNX3d)

244 If , God forbid, Sotomayor shucks off this mortal coil , the Dems will lose their shit on steroids. They realize Trump will appoint a young conservative who will be on the bench 25+ years. The person could get a celibate monk and the old "victims" will come out of the woodwork
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 08, 2025 02:12 PM (6TePA)
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Figure Vance runs and wins, it's possible SCOTUS is reshaped even further right. Which would be hilarious.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 08, 2025 02:14 PM (tT6L1)

245 Back to the post topic..

Hilarious the way Andrea Mitchell says "just handed Trump ANOTHER win," as if it's been nothing but breezing to victory after victory for this administration.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 08, 2025 02:08 PM (asZHj)

Nothing about the lower judges being wrong, and needed to be corrected? Of course not. Judges are their white knights in shining armor!
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 08, 2025 02:10 PM (VNX3d)

I'll accept it from Mitchell. Trump is setting the pace and getting the wins because he doesn't have to fight his own team and party. If a case pauses one front, we just advance on another front full speed. Its driving them nuts because they only have so many activists to expend.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 02:14 PM (n7h9X)

246 > They know. It's a joke. That's not hyperbole. It's a joke to them. You hear them reference "stand your ground!!!" stuff all the time for promoting violence against normals

I agree, but I think it's because they don't understand "stand your ground." I think the people who say that think "stand your ground" is a magic incantation that works for white people because the system is racist.

You hear them say the same thing whenever a cop pulls someone over and tells them they match the description of someone they're looking for. They think this is a magic phrase cops use to pull over any black person they want with impunity. It couldn't possibly be that someone driving that same make, model, and color of car with a black driver wearing the same clothing did something illegal in that vicinity.

So these phrases are repeated with derision whenever something like the Karmelo Anthony event happens because they think all of those times where the court found self defense against a black person was justified were just the system being racist and they used the codeword to justify it. They repeat the codeword mockingly because they think it's always used to justify the unjustifiable.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 08, 2025 02:14 PM (lIio7)

247 I'll accept it from Mitchell. Trump is setting the pace and getting the wins because he doesn't have to fight his own team and party. If a case pauses one front, we just advance on another front full speed. Its driving them nuts because they only have so many activists to expend.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 02:14 PM (n7h9X)

... only have so many activists they can afford to buy.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 08, 2025 02:15 PM (VNX3d)

248 "Republicans are entirely, every single one, racist and would rather end Democracy than elect a black woman, says Princeton professor."

White progressives using black people as tokens.
Dateline Oakland.
Carroll Five is black.

Seneca Scott
@SenecaSpeaks21
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59m
Carrol Fife and her team of racist prog grifters are working overtime to try and distance herself from this; to “use BP as tokens”, that’s why ...

Posted by: 13times at April 08, 2025 02:16 PM (2ktXd)

249 Lori Lightfoot/London Breed 2028!
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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Gordon Lightfoot > Lori Lightfoot...and he's dead (RIP)

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 08, 2025 02:16 PM (XeU6L)

250 I'll accept it from Mitchell. Trump is setting the pace and getting the wins because he doesn't have to fight his own team and party. If a case pauses one front, we just advance on another front full speed. Its driving them nuts because they only have so many activists to expend.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 02:14 PM (n7h9X)
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I saw a blurb somewhere which mentioned the Trump Administration is hitting so hard and fast in so many directions the press is spread to thin to really cover everything that's going on. HHS was the example, I believe, of things happening which aren't being reported.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 08, 2025 02:16 PM (tT6L1)

251 Figure Vance runs and wins, it's possible SCOTUS is reshaped even further right. Which would be hilarious.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 08, 2025 02:14 PM (tT6L1)

SCOTUS and a bucket load of precedents. And Congress has the right to regularize these TROs to limit midnight judging, judge shopping, and nation-wide restraints.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 02:16 PM (n7h9X)

252 So these phrases are repeated with derision whenever something like the Karmelo Anthony event happens because they think all of those times where the court found self defense against a black person was justified were just the system being racist and they used the codeword to justify it. They repeat the codeword mockingly because they think it's always used to justify the unjustifiable.
Posted by: bonhomme at April 08, 2025 02:14 PM (lIio7)

Yeah, they fall for the media propaganda.

I remember screaming at the TV during the trayvon martin shit. The news people kept repeating stand your ground over and over again, even though

a) it had nothing to do with the Defenses case
and
b) they clearly had no idea what that phrase meant

I now realize it was just propaganda. At the time, I was like "how do these multi billion dollars media corporations not have a single criminal defense attorney they can call to ask him to explain this simple concept to them?"

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 08, 2025 02:17 PM (uCjyK)

253
David Souter doesn't have to take care of his mom anymore, and is just sitting around in Vermont looking for something to do, just in case there's an opening.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: Auspex at April 08, 2025 02:17 PM (j4U/Z)

254 The other side certainly doesn't. They only nominate confirmed hyper partisans.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 08, 2025 02:06 PM

Our very strong conservative jurists (Bork, Scalia, Alito and Thomas) are brilliant legal minds. Their extremely leftist jurists are legal mediocrities if not embarrassments.

Posted by: Ordinary American at April 08, 2025 02:17 PM (h/ffs)

255
More AoS Animal Fun Facts!

What's a bat?

A bat is a bird.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 02:17 PM (Ks1zr)

256 Yeah, but why can't we put MAGA activists on the bench?

those types just don't end up as federal judges -- the law is full of liberals and RINOs

Posted by: brak at April 08, 2025 02:18 PM (jGJov)

257 196 It's amazing how the left always knows where to go to land in front of a judge that will grant them anything they ask for.

I wonder what the full score is so far, 75% or so of the cases have gone their way in getting TROs?
It's a guess but it seems close.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at April 08, 2025 02:02 PM (6ydKt)

Simple, some clerks in each Judicial district let their buddies in the DNC legal cadre know who is going to be the "Judge on Duty" for emergency rulings late at night or on the weekends. When they see a friendly Judge is on duty, they file the emergency order which puts it into that judge's courtroom.

The Dems have perfected this lawfare over almost a 7-8 decades.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at April 08, 2025 02:18 PM (k1E2D)

258
If a penguin is supposebly a bird, and not a fish, then a bat is definitely a bird, because it has wings and can fly.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 02:18 PM (Ks1zr)

259 *pulls finger out of nose*
*drools*
*farts*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 02:13 PM (GBKbO)

Those things I understand

Posted by: Doof at April 08, 2025 02:19 PM (vf0Y9)

260 Shoulda taken the deal.

Posted by: jsg at April 08, 2025 02:19 PM (uq38/)

261 David Souter doesn't have to take care of his mom anymore, and is just sitting around in Vermont looking for something to do, just in case there's an opening.

Just sayin'.
Posted by: Auspex at April 08, 2025 02:17 PM (j4U/Z)

I think he still lives in NH.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 08, 2025 02:19 PM (uCjyK)

262 Penguins fly underwater though.

Posted by: steevy at April 08, 2025 02:19 PM (KQk9m)

263 Coney-Barrett may be disappointing but I have been extremely impressed by Gorsuch.

Posted by: Moonbeam at April 08, 2025 02:19 PM (rbKZ6)

264 Those things I understand
Posted by: Doof at April 08, 2025 02:19 PM (vf0Y9)
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You cleaned that finger before typing, right?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 08, 2025 02:19 PM (tT6L1)

265 I saw a blurb somewhere which mentioned the Trump Administration is hitting so hard and fast in so many directions the press is spread to thin to really cover everything that's going on. HHS was the example, I believe, of things happening which aren't being reported.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 08, 2025 02:16 PM (tT6L1)

There is no press in the old sense these days in the press. These activist idiots read tweets all day. The few good ones seem to get along pretty well. I'm seeing YT people going through these TROs line by line within hours saying how bullshit they are. This exposure seems to be Roberts' real beef, it makes him and his holy courts look bad.

But yes when you are a centrally directed cult run from a central head, this broad and fast attack will get inside your decision loop.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 02:20 PM (n7h9X)

266 those types just don't end up as federal judges -- the law is full of liberals and RINOs
Posted by: brak at April 08, 2025 02:18 PM (jGJov)

There is no rule that a SCOTUS justice has to be a federal judge.

In fact, many weren't. Historically, at least.

Souter, for example, was a supreme court judge in NH prior to going on to SCOTUS.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 08, 2025 02:20 PM (uCjyK)

267
Penguins fly underwater though.
Posted by: steevy

Good point.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 02:20 PM (Ks1zr)

268 Is DU holding it together as much as they are able? This must be distressing to them!

Posted by: Piper at April 08, 2025 02:20 PM (Cg73w)

269 'Bout freaking time!

Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at April 08, 2025 02:20 PM (zgeQC)

270 Those things I understand
Posted by: Doof at April 08, 2025 02:19 PM (vf0Y9)
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You cleaned that finger before typing, right?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 08, 2025 02:19 PM (tT6L1)

Just be glad it was just in his nose.

Posted by: BruceWayne at April 08, 2025 02:21 PM (MGB5H)

271 > Penguins fly underwater though.

Watching Puffins fly underwater is magical.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 08, 2025 02:21 PM (lIio7)

272 I don't understand the system or structure or law that allows a district judge from

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at April 08, 2025 02:21 PM (kTd/k)

273
If any politicians deserved protests for the way they ran their respective cities, it would have been Bass, Lightfoot and Breed. Instead, we got crickets.

Posted by: Darrell Harris

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I don't read the LA Times (paywall) but it's true, those fire victims seem to have slipped from the news. All those homes destroyed, all those people displaced, has anyone caught up with them yet?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 08, 2025 02:21 PM (asZHj)

274 Penguins fly underwater though.

Posted by: steevy at April 08, 2025 02:19 PM (KQk9m)
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Kinda like Malaysia Air?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 08, 2025 02:21 PM (YqDXo)

275 OT, but it strikes me as funny that we saw no protests in CA after the Palisades Fire, but we see tons of protests against Elon. If any politicians deserved protests for the way they ran their respective cities, it would have been Bass, Lightfoot and Breed. Instead, we got crickets.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 08, 2025 02:11 PM (V1Js5)

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They're screens didn't tell them to protest over fires, it told them to protest over Elon & Trump and take it out on anything with a Tesla brand on it.

It doesn't take much.
All you need is thousands of brainswashed, bored, leftists with a dash of mental illness and a lot of rage; then all you gotta do is point them in the right direction and say "Sic 'em."

That's why they're still so pissed about January 6th.
Nobody had even done it to them before.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at April 08, 2025 02:21 PM (6ydKt)

276 272 I don't understand the system or structure or law that allows a district judge from somewhere to make up law.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at April 08, 2025 02:21 PM (kTd/k)

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at April 08, 2025 02:22 PM (kTd/k)

277 Gordon Lightfoot > Lori Lightfoot...and he's dead (RIP)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 08, 2025 02:16 PM (XeU6L)

Lori Lightfoot-Admiral Ackbar (hint, she's the one on the left)

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 08, 2025 02:22 PM (8zz6B)

278 Those things I understand
Posted by: Doof at April 08, 2025 02:19 PM (vf0Y9)
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You cleaned that finger before typing, right?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 08, 2025 02:19 PM (tT6L1)

Just be glad it was just in his nose.
Posted by: BruceWayne at April 08, 2025 02:21 PM (MGB5H)
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Objection: Assumes facts not in evidence!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 08, 2025 02:22 PM (tT6L1)

279
[awards garrett bonus points for use of 'midden']

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 08, 2025 02:22 PM (XeU6L)

280 258If a penguin is supposebly a bird, and not a fish, then a bat is definitely a bird, because it has wings and can fly.
Posted by: Soothsayer

Bats have tits.

Posted by: Auspex at April 08, 2025 02:23 PM (j4U/Z)

281 Simple, some clerks in each Judicial district let their buddies in the DNC legal cadre know who is going to be the "Judge on Duty" for emergency rulings late at night or on the weekends. When they see a friendly Judge is on duty, they file the emergency order which puts it into that judge's courtroom.

The Dems have perfected this lawfare over almost a 7-8 decades.
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at April 08, 2025 02:18 PM (k1E2D)

That's the cover story. They just call in the judge. The same Judge B randomly got a second political case with trying to topple Hegseth while he was ordering planes to turn around in midair hours after they landed. Same thing last term where one judge got J6 and Trump attack cases.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 02:23 PM (n7h9X)

282 Those things I understand
Posted by: Doof at April 08, 2025 02:19 PM (vf0Y9)
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You cleaned that finger before typing, right?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 08, 2025 02:19 PM (tT6L1)

Just be glad it was just in his nose.
Posted by: BruceWayne at April 08, 2025 02:21 PM (MGB5H)

You can pick your friends, and you can pick your nose, but....

Posted by: Doof at April 08, 2025 02:24 PM (vf0Y9)

283
There is no rule that a SCOTUS justice has to be a federal judge.

In fact, many weren't. Historically, at least.

Right. Souter. Earl Warren was probably one of the most famous.

In my experience, more conservative lawyers don't pursue pathways that lead to being judges. You get a lot of squishes and liberals.

Posted by: brak at April 08, 2025 02:24 PM (jGJov)

284 They're = Their
even = ever

I'll strive for quality over efficiency in the future.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at April 08, 2025 02:24 PM (6ydKt)

285
When will "scientists" "bring back" the Sabretooth Tiger?

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 02:24 PM (Ks1zr)

286 Bats are mammals.

Posted by: Moonbeam at April 08, 2025 02:24 PM (rbKZ6)

287 258If a penguin is supposebly a bird, and not a fish, then a bat is definitely a bird, because it has wings and can fly.
Posted by: Soothsayer

Bats have tits.
Posted by: Auspex at April 08, 2025 02:23 PM (j4U/Z)

Flight is not taxonomically valid to define animals. Insects, dinosarus, lizards and mammals have all developed powered flight independently.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 02:24 PM (n7h9X)

288 272 I don't understand the system or structure or law that allows a district judge from somewhere to make up law.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at April 08, 2025 02:21 PM (kTd/k)

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at April 08, 2025 02:22 PM (kTd/k)

It's actually an element found in the Periodic Table - Democratium. It was discovered somewhere around FDR's 2nd term. One of the strongest forces in the universe.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at April 08, 2025 02:25 PM (CNncw)

289 Penguins fly underwater though.
Posted by: steevy

So do dolphins. A mammal.

Penguins, flying squirrels, and bats have lungs. Fish have gills. This is the key discriminator. (Yeah, yeah, lungfish...the exception probes the rule.)

Posted by: Gref the Pedant at April 08, 2025 02:25 PM (aBgBM)

290 the exception probes the rule.)
Posted by: Gref the Pedant at April 08, 2025 02:25 PM (aBgBM)

Well that's awfully forward of the exception.

Posted by: BruceWayne at April 08, 2025 02:26 PM (MGB5H)

291 > Bats have tits.

So hawt.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 08, 2025 02:26 PM (lIio7)

292
As far as I'm concerned, DOGE has already proved major fraud.

$20 billion to Stacey Abrams? If say Kamala had won, that woman probably be the first billionaire black woman and everybody would have to say she earned it.
Posted by: Leupold at April 08, 2025 01:49 PM (4pwAx)

To put The Tank's $20B windfall into perspective, Oprah Winfrey is only worth about $4B, after 20+ years of work on her talkshow and associated endorsement deals.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 08, 2025 02:26 PM (y9nCu)

293 Penguins fly underwater though.
Posted by: steevy

And ostrich don't fly at all.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 08, 2025 02:26 PM (zct9C)

294 Mice have tits too. At least some of them.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at April 08, 2025 02:26 PM (CNncw)

295 It's actually an element found in the Periodic Table - Democratium. It was discovered somewhere around FDR's 2nd term. One of the strongest forces in the universe.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at April 08, 2025 02:25 PM (CNncw)
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The black allotrope of Democratium carries all before it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 08, 2025 02:27 PM (YqDXo)

296 When will "scientists" "bring back" the Sabretooth Tiger?

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 02:24 PM (Ks1zr)

Cats are pretty resistant to breeding. Some group of dopes was trying to make a tiger breed and to my view are photoshopping the picture to look oranger than a brown tabby. Compare that to dogs that go from the size of a small cat to a small horse.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 02:27 PM (n7h9X)

297
See?
And Panda bears, like koala bears, are not bears.

I think I mentioned Hyenas aren't dogs, but cats. But Prairie Dogs are, indeed, dogs.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 02:27 PM (Ks1zr)

298 Bats have tits.
______________

And so it begins ...

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 08, 2025 02:28 PM (YqDXo)

299 Flight is not taxonomically valid to define animals. Insects, dinosarus, lizards and mammals have all developed powered flight independently.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 02:24 PM (n7h9X)

This is one of the days that I wish Pookette wasn't currently in school just so she could argue with Morons about penguins.

Posted by: pookysgirl finally gave Pengie back last night at April 08, 2025 02:28 PM (Wt5PA)

300 I don't read the LA Times (paywall) but it's true, those fire victims seem to have slipped from the news. All those homes destroyed, all those people displaced, has anyone caught up with them yet?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
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Our Vets here (refugees from the washed-away Veteran's Restoration Quarters) are dining in a mess tent. Some 75+ years old, walkers, canes. Sometimes in 20 deg. weather. They are easy to catch up with.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 08, 2025 02:28 PM (XeU6L)

301 Mice have tits too. At least some of them.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at April 08, 2025 02:26 PM (CNncw)

Tits aren't a sex linked characteristic. Working ones are.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 02:28 PM (n7h9X)

302 A midden is an old dump for domestic waste. It may consist of animal bones, human excrement, botanical material, mollusc shells, potsherds, lithics, and other artifacts and ecofacts associated with past human occupation.
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Stuff you learn listening to Garrett.

Posted by: Pudinhead at April 08, 2025 02:28 PM (pZ64F)

303 The black allotrope of Democratium carries all before it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 08, 2025 02:27 PM (YqDXo)

Ain't that the truth.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at April 08, 2025 02:29 PM (CNncw)

304 281 Simple, some clerks in each Judicial district let their buddies in the DNC legal cadre know who is going to be the "Judge on Duty" for emergency rulings late at night or on the weekends. When they see a friendly Judge is on duty, they file the emergency order which puts it into that judge's courtroom.

The Dems have perfected this lawfare over almost a 7-8 decades.
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at April 08, 2025 02:18 PM (k1E2D)

That's the cover story. They just call in the judge. The same Judge B randomly got a second political case with trying to topple Hegseth while he was ordering planes to turn around in midair hours after they landed. Same thing last term where one judge got J6 and Trump attack cases.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 02:23 PM (n7h9X)

-- --

He came in on his day off to hear arguments over the deportations to El Salvador TROs and other orders he gave, when it was another judge on duty, on the weekend.

This judge is obviously making it his mission, and it's become obvious to everybody that "random assignment" no longer has the same meaning it used to, like so many other words and phrases.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at April 08, 2025 02:29 PM (6ydKt)

305
OUT: Hawaii Five-O
IN: Hawaii Judge-0

Posted by: Tex Lovera at April 08, 2025 02:29 PM (wtvvX)

306 > Flight is not taxonomically valid to define animals. Insects, dinosarus, lizards and mammals have all developed powered flight independently.

They're all birds. What's the problem?

Posted by: bonhomme at April 08, 2025 02:29 PM (lIio7)

307 This is one of the days that I wish Pookette wasn't currently in school just so she could argue with Morons about penguins.
Posted by: pookysgirl finally gave Pengie back last night at April 08, 2025 02:28 PM (Wt5PA)

How does she stand on the Giant Electric Penguin and its tentacles?

Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 02:30 PM (n7h9X)

308 I don't read the LA Times (paywall) but it's true, those fire victims seem to have slipped from the news. All those homes destroyed, all those people displaced, has anyone caught up with them yet?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 08, 2025 02:21 PM (asZHj)
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The only reporting I've seen is from Adam Carolla.

He is also the only fire victim who did not vote for Karen Bass.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 08, 2025 02:30 PM (7NKxb)

309 I was thinking of the Titmouse. Actually a bird.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at April 08, 2025 02:30 PM (CNncw)

310 301 Mice have tits too. At least some of them.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at April 08, 2025 02:26 PM (CNncw)

Tits aren't a sex linked characteristic. Working ones are.
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I had a HS girlfriend who had at least six teats. The top two were spectacular. The other four looked like diminutive pimples.

Posted by: Pudinhead at April 08, 2025 02:30 PM (pZ64F)

311
Okay, then, by your logic, Any Comey Barrett has teets, therefore she is a bat.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 02:30 PM (Ks1zr)

312 Just realized that a numeric 0 looks a lot more like a lower-case o on this wonderful web site.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at April 08, 2025 02:31 PM (wtvvX)

313
See?
And Panda bears, like koala bears, are not bears.

I think I mentioned Hyenas aren't dogs, but cats. But Prairie Dogs are, indeed, dogs.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 02:27 PM (Ks1zr)

Woof! Woof!

*Glug! Glug!*

Posted by: Dogfish at April 08, 2025 02:31 PM (y9nCu)

314
I was thinking of the Titmouse. Actually a bird.
Posted by: Chairborne!.

Now you're just making shit up.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 02:31 PM (Ks1zr)

315 He came in on his day off to hear arguments over the deportations to El Salvador TROs and other orders he gave, when it was another judge on duty, on the weekend.

This judge is obviously making it his mission, and it's become obvious to everybody that "random assignment" no longer has the same meaning it used to, like so many other words and phrases.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at April 08, 2025 02:29 PM (6ydKt)

That's another cover story. He had to be there in the initial filing, since he told them to remove an argument that would have blown up their TRO on its face and sub in another one. That had to be done before he 'accidentally' got the case at 7 AM

Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 02:32 PM (n7h9X)

316 Right. Souter. Earl Warren was probably one of the most famous.

In my experience, more conservative lawyers don't pursue pathways that lead to being judges. You get a lot of squishes and liberals.
Posted by: brak at April 08, 2025 02:24 PM (jGJov)

Jackson didn't even graduate law school. And prior to being on SCOTUS, he only had political jobs under FDR, no time on the bench.

So I mean... I don't know. Find a personal injury lawyer from Idaho for all I care. Why do we only get to pick people from "the credentialed class"?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 08, 2025 02:32 PM (uCjyK)

317 310 301 Mice have tits too. At least some of them.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at April 08, 2025 02:26 PM (CNncw)

Tits aren't a sex linked characteristic. Working ones are.
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I had a HS girlfriend who had at least six teats. The top two were spectacular. The other four looked like diminutive pimples.

Posted by: Pudinhead at April 08, 2025 02:30 PM (pZ64F)

Was her name Francesca Scaramanga, by chance?

Posted by: Tex Lovera at April 08, 2025 02:33 PM (wtvvX)

318 Is DU holding it together as much as they are able? This must be distressing to them!
Posted by: Piper

Results of CNN poll. Trump has

Too much power 47%
About right. 36%
Too little 17%

53% think Trump has too little or the right amount of power.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 08, 2025 02:33 PM (L/fGl)

319

NOOOD

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 02:33 PM (Ks1zr)

320
Flight is not taxonomically valid to define animals. Insects, dinosarus, lizards and mammals have all developed powered flight independently.

They're all birds. What's the problem?
Posted by: bonhomme at April 08, 2025 02:29 PM (lIio7)

They're all some variety of weasel.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 08, 2025 02:33 PM (y9nCu)

321 Just realized that a numeric 0 looks a lot more like a lower-case o on this wonderful web site.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at April 08, 2025 02:31 PM (wtvvX)

0o0o0o

not seeing it. Funny. sans-serif font in comment box, serif font in posted comments. Is that a browser function?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 08, 2025 02:33 PM (8zz6B)

322
Now It Can Be Told: Nood

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 02:33 PM (Ks1zr)

323 had a HS girlfriend who had at least six teats. The top two were spectacular. The other four looked like diminutive pimples.
Posted by: Pudinhead at April 08, 2025 02:30 PM (pZ64F)

So did one of Henry VIII wives.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 02:33 PM (n7h9X)

324 BREAKING: Lower Hawaiian Judge under investigation for requiring all government employees to purchase hula skirts leis and Puca beads from the souvenir shop owned by the judges family.

Posted by: I was Gumby Damn It! now I'm no0t at April 08, 2025 02:34 PM (/m17t)

325 Nood Mann

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 08, 2025 02:34 PM (uCjyK)

326 Why do we only get to pick people from "the credentialed class"?

Back when W nominated Harriet Myers, our side crowed as much as anyone that she "only went to SMU" and she would rolled by all those "Ivy League intellects" on the SC.

There were plenty of reasons to oppose her nomination, but our side seems to love its credentialism too.

I wonder if a non-Ivy nominee would even make it to a vote it runs so strong.

Posted by: brak at April 08, 2025 02:34 PM (jGJov)

327 Just realized that a numeric 0 looks a lot more like a lower-case o on this wonderful web site.
Posted by: Tex Lovera

First world problem: security codes that use 1 and l or O and 0 in the same segment. Don't mix zero and O or L and 1, fools.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 08, 2025 02:34 PM (zct9C)

328 Ace covered this but the poll is shocking even mainstream Republicans now.
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If we take a score of 4 on this chart–midway between “Not at all justified” and “Completely justified”–29% of those who say they are liberals are pretty much OK with murdering Elon Musk, and 41% are OK with murdering President Trump.

We are in uncharted territory.

Is there, any longer, a basis on which liberals and conservatives can collaborate, in good faith, in governing a democracy?

~~ Hinderaker, at Powerline, thinks American culture is pretty sick.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 08, 2025 02:35 PM (agZyU)

329 310 I had a HS girlfriend who had at least six teats.

Rick James would not advise taking her home to mother.

Posted by: Auspex at April 08, 2025 02:37 PM (j4U/Z)

330 ~~ Hinderaker, at Powerline, thinks American culture is pretty sick.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 08, 2025 02:35 PM (agZyU)

lighten up you dope. If you define liberals as the leftist traitors then no. If you define them as new MAGA peeps then sure.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 02:38 PM (n7h9X)

331 When will "scientists" "bring back" the Sabretooth Tiger?

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 02:24 PM (Ks1zr)

Smilodon are pretty cool critters, I would prefer giant sloth, though. Or Terror birds, those would be lit.

There is a point of view that the northern taigas in Canada are very poor in species, since the megafauna die off 12k years ago, and that "rewilding" is a proper thing to do. The South American papmas has a similar problem, since the largest animal on the continent is the Tapir.

but I guess you are being sarcastic, from what your comments were last night about Dire Wolves. ride that obsession of yours like a litoptern!

Posted by: Kindltot - eight furry chickens in white wine at April 08, 2025 02:38 PM (D7oie)

332 Sundowner administration loaded up the benches with activists

Posted by: Skip at April 08, 2025 02:39 PM (ypFCm)

333 ...We are in uncharted territory.

Is there, any longer, a basis on which liberals and conservatives can collaborate, in good faith, in governing a democracy?

~~ Hinderaker, at Powerline, thinks American culture is pretty sick.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 08, 2025 02:35 PM

These so-called liberals don't seem to understand that this can easily become a two way street.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at April 08, 2025 02:39 PM (CNncw)

334 @297 pandas are actually bears. They also appear to be slightly brain damaged

Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 08, 2025 02:40 PM (6TePA)

335 Trump made a ballsy move yesterday. He had armed US marshals deliver a letter to the chick that testified at the new Senate 9shadow) committee. Senator Watermelon is the chair and driving force of the committee. Ha Yesterday Trump TOTALLY Blew Sen Schiff to pieces in the presence of the entire LA Dodgers organization.
Schiff melted like the wicked witch he is!!!

Posted by: I was Gumby Damn It! now I'm no0t at April 08, 2025 02:42 PM (/m17t)

336 199 Yay. There are some cases where probationary employees were actually senior researchers that had been newly promoted or moved to new labs but I'm sure that if the heads of those agencies took the time to Do Their Jobs, there is a process to say "wait, this is not really a probationary employee, they are critical to the agency mission." But a lot of these agency managers are disgruntled snots that just wanted to disrupt things to generate anti-Trump headlines.
Posted by: PaleRider
=========
PaleRider,
Due to due process and federal laws on employment, you have to dismiss all probationary employees or none of them for firing. If you pick and choose, then each employee gets to claim due process violations in their individual case.

Better to fire them all than fight large numbers of discrimination, unlawful discharges due to whistleblower status, and all other things.

You can rehire later based on needs rather than fight a massive number of court cases the other way.

Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 02:43 PM (ctrM5)

337 Schiff melted like the wicked witch he is!!!
Posted by: I was Gumby Damn It!
======
A lot of the IC and politicians literally have never taken a punch in their lives. Physical cowardice later brings in moral cowardice.

Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 02:44 PM (ctrM5)

338 Is there, any longer, a basis on which liberals and conservatives can collaborate, in good faith, in governing a democracy?

~~ Hinderaker
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First mistake Hinderaker makes, there are no liberals left.

They are leftists now and out for power by any means necessary. Thus, they destroy any institution that dares give them the time of day.

Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 02:45 PM (ctrM5)

339 The positions Democrats are taking are designed to hasten the destruction of America. There is no "middle ground" to be found with them, and that's how they want it.

You WILL call a man a woman. You WILL support the genital mutilation of children. You WILL support the state stripping parents of their rights and taking their children away from then in the name of transsexual lunacy. You WILL support your children being taught to hate each other based on race and economic class. You WILL support cultural Marxism, and children being coached to view themselves as victims.

All of these are designed to divide families against each other, divide races against each other, and divide the nation against itself. Hatred, Fear and Envy are the political Left's primary motivators, and they are doubling down on all of it.

Posted by: Sam Adams at April 08, 2025 02:48 PM (X+xvk)

340 Remember how the American media members suddenly and simultaneously discovered the word "gravitas?" We all suspected that they conspired in private to coordinate their reporting, and with the outing of the "journOlist" forum, we were proven correct.

I would bet big money that similar collusion is routinely occurring with members of the American judiciary. I would love to know if John Roberts, the good friend of Trump-hating Color Revolution engineer Norm Eisen, ever communicates directly or indirectly with his good buddy James Boasberg. I would bet such communication exists.

That Roberts traveled all the way to Czech Republic to spend a week meeting with Norm Eisen behind closed doors in a secure facility just to discuss "legal matters" suggests a need for great secrecy. Would love to see Roberts answer specific questions about this. What, specifically, were they discussing?

Posted by: Sam Adams at April 08, 2025 02:57 PM (X+xvk)

341 The positions Democrats are taking are designed to hasten the destruction of America. There is no "middle ground" to be found with them, and that's how they want it.

You WILL call a man a woman. You WILL support the genital mutilation of children. You WILL support the state stripping parents of their rights and taking their children away from then in the name of transsexual lunacy. You WILL support your children being taught to hate each other based on race and economic class. You WILL support cultural Marxism, and children being coached to view themselves as victims.

All of these are designed to divide families against each other, divide races against each other, and divide the nation against itself. Hatred, Fear and Envy are the political Left's primary motivators, and they are doubling down on all of it.

Posted by: Sam Adams at April 08, 2025 02:48 PM (X+xvk)

THIS.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at April 08, 2025 02:57 PM (CNncw)

342 ...That Roberts traveled all the way to Czech Republic to spend a week meeting with Norm Eisen behind closed doors in a secure facility just to discuss "legal matters" suggests a need for great secrecy. Would love to see Roberts answer specific questions about this. What, specifically, were they discussing?

Posted by: Sam Adams at April 08, 2025 02:57 PM (X+xvk)

Right on the money again. The entire system is corrupt and beyond repair IMO. It needs to be taken down with a wrecking ball.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at April 08, 2025 02:59 PM (CNncw)

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