Joe Scarborough: I Was Such a Rock-Ribbed Super-Conservative That the Republican Party's Liberal Leadership Repeatedly Threatened Me, But I Am Too Courageous and Tough to be Frightened

Oh.

Is that how you see yourself?

That's interesting. Psychiatrically, I mean.

NewsBusters readers know that Joe Scarborough has the braggadocious habit of mentioning his former congressman status at every possible opportunity. They're also aware that Scarborough, whom we've dubbed Muy Macho Joe, likes to brag about what a tough a hombre he is.
Scarborough earned that moniker back in 2023 by bragging that if he ever saw a Capitol tourist snapping a photo somewhere Joe didn't like, he'd say: "Put the camera down or I'm gonna make you eat it. I would slap the camera out of his hand." Dirty Harry was a wimp in comparison.
On Wednesday's Morning Joe, Scarborough seized as a two-fer on the result in yesterday's judicial election in Wisconsin, in which the Democrat won despite Elon Musk campaigning in the state and donating heavily to the Republican candidate.
Scarborough not only dragged his former congressman status into the conversation, he also bragged about how tough he was when Republican leaders threatened to campaign against him when he took votes they didn't like.
As Scarborough described his display of extreme machismo. There's only one major problem. Does anyone actually remember the national GOP establishment opposing Scarborough in the 1994 primary, when he ran as a rock-ribbed conservative?

I had the Republicans doing everything they could to beat me in 1994. And I won.
And so, I get up there, and I start voting in ways they don't want me to vote, and they threaten me. And at one point, I had a member of leadership say, if you, you know, if you don't go this way, Scarborough, we're going to, and I cut him off.
I go, what, come into my district? Please come into my district. I won by 62% the first time you did. Come in again, and I'll win by 75%, and I turned around and walked off.

Video at the link.

Greg Gutfeld lauds Joe Scarborough for his "honesty" as well as his "dime-slot Hillbilly eyes," as Scarborough claims that he first became aware of Biden's mental infirmity during the "shocking" debate.

A masterpiece song from Joe Scarborough's album Dime-Slot Hillbilly Eyes:

You all forgot Joe Scarborough was a "rock musician," huh?

Did you know he put out a "Drumpf"-themed Christmas EP?

oe Scarborough to release Trump-inspired Christmas EP titled 'A Very Drumpf Christmas'

This guy listened to it so you don't have to.

His cover of the Beatles "I've Just Seen a Face," which he repurposed as a tribute to health care workers during the covid lockdowns he championed, is so bad that he murdered this song and stuffed it into a locker at work.

Posted by: Ace at 01:17 PM

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1 Joe Scarborough is who I picture when I think courageous.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 03, 2025 01:18 PM (ExV1e)

2 MIKA's slave

Posted by: vmom deport deport deporte at April 03, 2025 01:18 PM (6U1c2)

3 The others were informed. We'll see if they show up.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 03, 2025 01:19 PM (ExV1e)

Posted by: Joe's Intern at April 03, 2025 01:19 PM (2UnvF)

5 Scarborough's former intern is not available for comment.

Posted by: Cosda at April 03, 2025 01:19 PM (V/22n)

6 And now, a few thoughts from Mitch McConnell:

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 03, 2025 01:20 PM (VNX3d)

7 the funny thing is he probably believes this story. he made up about himself

Posted by: Black Orchid at April 03, 2025 01:20 PM (Pv3Rg)

8 Was Joe courageous as he bashed his secretary's skull in?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 03, 2025 01:20 PM (/U5Yz)

9 Reads a lot like the opening salvo to Scarborough '28. What a mental patient.

Posted by: ... at April 03, 2025 01:20 PM (XZ9Wx)

10 He's gay and Mika's a lesbian, right?

Posted by: wth at April 03, 2025 01:20 PM (v0R5T)

11 1 Joe Scarborough is who I picture when I think courageous.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

He's becoming less and less distinguishable from Keith Olbermann...except Keith pulled some quality tail in his past, and didn't kill anyone.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at April 03, 2025 01:21 PM (ekm7d)

12 And now, a few thoughts from Mitch McConnell:

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 03, 2025 01:20 PM (VNX3d)

Counterpoint:

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Posted by: Gabby Giffords at April 03, 2025 01:21 PM (i24o9)

13 Our uniparty Congresscritters live by one rule: do what's best for them.

So if Joe used to be a rockribbed conservative (I'll just take his word for it), it's not shocking now that he's a big time libtard.

He just followed the money.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 03, 2025 01:21 PM (uCjyK)

14 He's like Trump if Trump was a cross-eyed midget into fecal play.

Posted by: ... at April 03, 2025 01:21 PM (XZ9Wx)

15 Does he still play guitar and sing?
Cuz that was awesome.

Posted by: wth at April 03, 2025 01:22 PM (v0R5T)

16 Scarborough is a salesman. He sells votes for cash, and internships for sex.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 03, 2025 01:22 PM (lTGtQ)

17 I actually remember when Banjo Boy was conservative. Is it because someone knows the truth of the dead intern that he switched sides?

Posted by: kallisto at April 03, 2025 01:22 PM (+EtIV)

18 "Murdering" Joe Scarborough is the "Lucky" Pierre Delecto of "Cocaine" Glitch McConnells.

Posted by: ShainS -- If Elon Bought Planned Parenthood, The Left Would Hate Abortion at April 03, 2025 01:23 PM (RKsvB)

19 Joe found his true political calling between Mika's thighs.

Posted by: huerfano, being crass at April 03, 2025 01:23 PM (n2swS)

20 He's becoming less and less distinguishable from Keith Olbermann...except Keith pulled some quality tail in his past, and didn't kill anyone.
Posted by: Moron Analyst
.....

...that we know of.

Posted by: wth at April 03, 2025 01:23 PM (v0R5T)

21
Counterpoint:

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Posted by: Gabby Giffords

Misquote!
That was Harris not Gabby!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 03, 2025 01:24 PM (fZmG/)

22 5 Does he still play guitar and sing?
Cuz that was awesome.

Made me forget about SRV, his brother, Pat Metheny and the Gypsy Kings all at once.

Posted by: kallisto at April 03, 2025 01:24 PM (+EtIV)

23 Joe also identifies as a female....but one of those super action females who don't need a dude to teach him how to knock a camera out of someone's hand.

You can't teach shit like that.

Posted by: Stateless...81% - mental state clawing up from 10% at April 03, 2025 01:24 PM (jvJvP)

24 Scarborough is such a NeoMaximZoomDweebie that he barely registers in the general Zeitgeist, if he registers at all.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 03, 2025 01:24 PM (XV/Pl)

25 Joe Scarborough: I Was Such a Rock-Ribbed Super-Conservative That the Republican Party's Liberal Leadership Repeatedly Threatened Me, But I Am Too Courageous and Tough to be Frightened
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"And that's why I ended up at MSNBC."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 03, 2025 01:26 PM (YqDXo)

26 The real question is, why is Joe's backhole stretched more than Mika's?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 03, 2025 01:26 PM (/U5Yz)

27 Dim Joe and his Not-Really-A-Blonde side piece are just paid whores. Nothing more. They will gladly say whatever they are told to say, and take the checks right to the bank.

Posted by: Brewingfrog at April 03, 2025 01:26 PM (glBen)

28 Never trust anybody who's head is shaped like a lightbulb.

Posted by: wth at April 03, 2025 01:26 PM (v0R5T)

29
Translation: "I'm a bullshitter who murdered an intern."

Posted by: Auspex at April 03, 2025 01:26 PM (j4U/Z)

30 "dime-slot Hillbilly eyes".

Damn. That's good.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at April 03, 2025 01:26 PM (wtvvX)

31 25 Joe Scarborough: I Was Such a Rock-Ribbed Super-Conservative That the Republican Party's Liberal Leadership Repeatedly Threatened Me, But I Am Too Courageous and Tough to be Frightened
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"And that's why I ended up at MSNBC."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 03, 2025 01:26 PM (YqDXo)

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Well, duh. Because the Republican Party moved so far to the left that the only conservative option is the Democrat Party.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 03, 2025 01:26 PM (GBKbO)

32 ‘Joe:
Remember to bring your guitar!!’

Posted by: No one ever, when planning the cookout at April 03, 2025 01:26 PM (+EtIV)

33 and of course he murdered an intern he'd impregnated because he's so Conservative

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at April 03, 2025 01:27 PM (xcxpd)

34

The douche didn't own up to what he said, he blamed it on the "media". LOL

FAR BEYOND COGENT!!

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at April 03, 2025 01:27 PM (et1vG)

35 I thought they were going to quit when NBC told them they were paid too much.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 03, 2025 01:27 PM (/U5Yz)

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Posted by: Gabby Giffords at April 03, 2025 01:21 PM (i24o9)

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Hut de fug up!

Posted by: Marlee Matlin at April 03, 2025 01:27 PM (2UnvF)

37 Joe Scarborough? Never heard of him

Posted by: Charles Gibson at April 03, 2025 01:27 PM (HYKHz)

38 People tend to rewrite their own history in a way that is positive for them. Joe is a glaring example.

Posted by: Piper at April 03, 2025 01:28 PM (pZEOD)

39 That's Dime Slot Hillbilly Eyes "alledged" Murderer to y'all.

Posted by: Mika's Hubby at April 03, 2025 01:28 PM (gllTv)

40 Delusion is not just a river in Scarborough land.

Posted by: Archer at April 03, 2025 01:29 PM (IDphi)

41 I actually remember when Banjo Boy was conservative. Is it because someone knows the truth of the dead intern that he switched sides?
Posted by: kallisto at April 03, 2025 01:22 PM (+EtIV)

I'm gonna blow your mind. Chances are, he was never conservative. He was what we call a liar.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 03, 2025 01:29 PM (ExV1e)

42 "A masterpiece song from Joe Scarborough's album Dime-Slot Hillbilly Eyes"

That video is something. It's a pasty-white Joe Scarborough in a Brooks Bros suit playing with a bunch of black singers who looked like they stepped out of central casting for a church choir. It's like someone accidentally dropped a mini-marshmallow into a bowl of raisons. Very odd. Clearly Fierce Joe wanted to show how much he likes black people.

Posted by: Elric Blade at April 03, 2025 01:29 PM (iFTx/)

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Posted by: Gabby Giffords

AW HNDS ON DEK
BAT-UL STAYSHNZ BAT-UL STAYSHNZ

Posted by: USS Gabrielle Giffords at April 03, 2025 01:29 PM (v0R5T)

44 "And then back in 1995 I told Trump - who was thinking of running for president back then with the Reform Party... I told him he can stick his tariffs right where the sun don't shine... You don't get to come in here and insult the United States of America. He turned around and left but not before asking if I wanted to buy some Trump Steaks. I said No thank you, sir, I only support businesses that pay their taxes and don't commit crimes."

-Joe Scarborough
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When the fuck did this guy turn into Discount Joe Biden?

Posted by: ... at April 03, 2025 01:29 PM (XZ9Wx)

45 Joe has always struck me as a more feminine version of k.d. lang.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at April 03, 2025 01:30 PM (KbCG3)

46 i added more Joe Scarborough Rock Songs.

I can't find that stupid video he did, the first "single" he put out as a "rock star." Does anyone know the name of that awful song?

The video features Mika Brzezinski (Of course) and lots of "Right Here, Right Now"-style samples of recent news video.

Posted by: ace at April 03, 2025 01:30 PM (KRtlO)

47 He’s so stronk, stunning and brave, he risked a trip to Mar-a-Lago ito the outrage of his lunatic MSNBC base.

One of whom is my coworker, who is going to the April 5 protest in DC.

I should ask her if she’s gonna wear her pussay hat.

Posted by: kallisto at April 03, 2025 01:31 PM (5S0JC)

48 Dime slot hillbilly eyes.

That is NOT cromulent.

In point of fact, I'd say it's fucking retarded.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 03, 2025 01:31 PM (hCfYJ)

49 Dim Joe and his Not-Really-A-Blonde side piece are just paid whores. Nothing more. They will gladly say whatever they are told to say, and take the checks right to the bank.
Posted by: Brewingfrog at April 03, 2025 01:26 PM (glBen)

Which makes them smarter than most of the people in the media who start to believe the bilge they peddle.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 03, 2025 01:31 PM (ExV1e)

50
He's still on the air?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 03, 2025 01:31 PM (3izae)

51 Joe, don't pull on Superman's cape.

Posted by: Archer at April 03, 2025 01:31 PM (IDphi)

52 From the previous thread:
33 Karoline Leavitt, so round , so firm, so fully packed.

I found out where the phrase came from! It was originally from an ad campaign for Lucky Strike cigarettes. Thanks, Google!

Posted by: Pete in Texas at April 03, 2025 01:31 PM (91Pn5)

53
Also Interesting: Last night on Gutfeld, Kennedy said reported she has inside info on msnbc. Kennedy says the sets are "miserable," and there's a lot of in-figting among the hosts.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 03, 2025 01:32 PM (U87Q7)

54 Joe has always struck me as a more feminine version of k.d. lang.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at April 03, 2025 01:30 PM (KbCG3)

His voice is higher and smoother.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 03, 2025 01:32 PM (hCfYJ)

55 Mike Huccabee on bass?

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 03, 2025 01:32 PM (pBnSW)

56 Next week, Joe will don water skis and jump over a shark tank to revive his career.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 03, 2025 01:32 PM (lTGtQ)

57 And Miss Leavitt is smokin'!!!

Posted by: Pete in Texas at April 03, 2025 01:32 PM (91Pn5)

58 Joey Scarebourough is a rock ribbed conservative and a murderer but mostly a murderer.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at April 03, 2025 01:32 PM (17s+e)

59
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Posted by: Gabby Gifford

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Now I know who I've been channeling when I land on first.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 03, 2025 01:32 PM (3izae)

60 Ask Joe about the dead married young intern in his office when he was in Congress. Who somehow whacked her head on his desk and died one night, body found the next day. Coroner ME, who used to keep parts of bodies he autopsied at a storage unit, said she had a heart issue. I think the coroner later lost his liscense, but have not kept up.

Joe does not like this topic. I followed it closely when I lived in Florida. Joe knows nothing about why she died in his office as he was in DC at the time.

Joe and his weird wife can scream all they want, they still won't be invited to the White House. I loved, loved, loved when Trump 1 said they came over to Maralago with her "bleeding from her nose" after plastic surgery. Which was nasty.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at April 03, 2025 01:33 PM (6PCLE)

61 Do they make skis that fit cowboy boots? Joe looks the type.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 03, 2025 01:33 PM (hCfYJ)

62 I would rate Joe Scarborough as a Paul Ryan/Kevin McCarthy type Republican, which means he was NEVER a Conservative in any sense of the word. It's funny that testosterone challenged male hosts over at MSNBC (Lawrence O'Donnell and Joe Scarborough) love telling everyone what "tough guys" they are, when we all know that a wheelchair bound circus monkey could kick both their asses easily!

Posted by: Tracy at April 03, 2025 01:33 PM (MC9pP)

63 Has Morning Joe ever written an op ed?

During the four years Biden had "President" in front of his name?

That doesn't mean the story is false, of course. It would be far more interesting to find out Biden was calling Scarborough up at 4:30 in the morning and rebutting editorials that Sleepy Joe had only hallucinated.

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at April 03, 2025 01:33 PM (vvd0g)

64
If you had the last name "Finkelstein," would you change it?

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 03, 2025 01:34 PM (U87Q7)

65 It's my understanding Joe's musical talent is rivaled only by his intellect.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 03, 2025 01:34 PM (tT6L1)

66 What a talent. He plays piano, too. Is there anything he can't do?

Posted by: wth at April 03, 2025 01:35 PM (v0R5T)

67 If you had the last name "Finkelstein," would you change it?
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 03, 2025 01:34 PM (U87Q7)
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Diamond.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at April 03, 2025 01:35 PM (6K6Eu)

68 The King is a fink.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 03, 2025 01:35 PM (pBnSW)

69 Nothing sketchy about this guy at all. I mean who hasn't found a dead woman in their office? It happened to me twice last week.

Posted by: Ernie McCracken at April 03, 2025 01:36 PM (n3H4S)

70
What is it with Jews and Unfortunate Last Names?

Either Jews have the worst last names, such as "Lipschitz" or "Hymen," or the coolest last names, such as "Diamond."

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 03, 2025 01:36 PM (U87Q7)

71 There's only one major problem. Does anyone actually remember the national GOP establishment opposing Scarborough in the 1994 primary, when he ran as a rock-ribbed conservative?

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31 fucking years ago.

I was -2 at the time.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at April 03, 2025 01:36 PM (Vh9CX)

72 In her endless bid to fight the natural aging process, Mika has managed to make herself look like a really well put together tranny.

Congratulations?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at April 03, 2025 01:36 PM (UGyV5)

73 Quien es Mas Macho?
Joe Scarborough or Lawrence O'Donnel?

Posted by: Gunslinger at April 03, 2025 01:37 PM (R2gO3)

74 I apologize to ace for not listening to the Banjo Boy music vids he posted.
I’m just starting to get hearing back in my right ear, and afraid I might be tempted to jam a chopstick in it after listening to his ‘music’.

I prefer to continue with the recovery I’ve made.

Posted by: kallisto at April 03, 2025 01:38 PM (5S0JC)

75 Quien es Mas Macho?
Joe Scarborough or Lawrence O'Donnel?
Posted by: Gunslinger at April 03, 2025 01:37 PM (R2gO3)

Laurence Olivier.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 03, 2025 01:38 PM (hCfYJ)

76 If you had the last name "Finkelstein," would you change it?

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 03, 2025 01:34 PM (U87Q7)
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I would. - Merrick Garland ne Garfinkel

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 03, 2025 01:39 PM (YqDXo)

77 75 Quien es Mas Macho?
Joe Scarborough or Lawrence O'Donnel?
Posted by: Gunslinger at April 03, 2025 01:37 PM (R2gO3)

Laurence Olivier.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 03, 2025 01:38 PM (hCfYJ)

Nathan Lane….

Posted by: tubal at April 03, 2025 01:39 PM (eOT8t)

78 Quien es Mas Macho?
Joe Scarborough or Lawrence O'Donnel?
Posted by: Gunslinger at April 03, 2025 01:37 PM (R2gO3)

Rosie O'Donnel

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at April 03, 2025 01:39 PM (NtVYv)

79 64
If you had the last name "Finkelstein," would you change it?
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 03, 2025 01:34 PM (U87Q7)

This kind of comment would provoke The Eye of the Jew from any self-respecting Finkelstein.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at April 03, 2025 01:39 PM (UGyV5)

80 Thanks for the music vids, Ace!
Got me rockin'!

Posted by: wth at April 03, 2025 01:39 PM (v0R5T)

81 Scarborough is a POS. He could not even make a good used car salesman. How he keeps his job is a wonder.

Posted by: Case at April 03, 2025 01:39 PM (OrSPY)

82 > Posted by: Ernie McCracken

I know your brother Phil intimately.

Posted by: Tim Walz at April 03, 2025 01:40 PM (lIio7)

83 Are you going to Scarborough Fair???

Posted by: tubal at April 03, 2025 01:40 PM (eOT8t)

84 I'm incredibly annoyed that I listened to 5 seconds of that music clip before realizing it wasn't a parody or gag video, but a legit actual attempt at artistry.

My day is ruined.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at April 03, 2025 01:40 PM (B9Prs)

85 In her endless bid to fight the natural aging process, Mika has managed to make herself look like a really well put together tranny.

Congratulations?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at April 03, 2025 01:36 PM (UGyV5)
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What oxidation state is her hair in?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 03, 2025 01:40 PM (YqDXo)

86 Didn't this guy used to be on, like, a cable news channel, or something?

Posted by: Most people at April 03, 2025 01:41 PM (dg+HA)

87 Are you going to Scarborough Fair???

Posted by: tubal

Too dangerous.

Posted by: Young female intern at April 03, 2025 01:41 PM (lTGtQ)

88 Quien es Mas Macho?
Joe Scarborough or Lawrence O'Donnel?
Posted by: Gunslinger at April 03, 2025 01:37 PM (R2gO3)

Danny Kaye.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 03, 2025 01:41 PM (hCfYJ)

89 He took on the Liberal Republican Establishment. Also won Straightest Guy in the Bath House four years in a row.

Posted by: ... at April 03, 2025 01:42 PM (XZ9Wx)

90 kallisto...A chopstick in your ear might improve the sound.

Posted by: wth at April 03, 2025 01:42 PM (v0R5T)

91 I dont understand how Berg could be such a common Jewish subname and yet I've never met a Jew named Hamberger

Posted by: The Unmasked and Unvaxed Ranger - Uplifting The Wagshambas of Freedom at April 03, 2025 01:42 PM (HYKHz)

92 >>>Thanks for the music vids, Ace!
Got me rockin'!

I start every day with a PowerBlock of Scarborough Rock.

Posted by: ace at April 03, 2025 01:42 PM (KRtlO)

93 Is there an Intrepid DU Reporter bat signal? Because I think he's ideally suited to see if there's a Joe Scarborough fan club thread on DU.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 03, 2025 01:42 PM (tT6L1)

94 Joe Scarborough is the Dylan Mulvaney of Neil Youngs.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 03, 2025 01:43 PM (2UnvF)

95 93 Is there an Intrepid DU Reporter bat signal? Because I think he's ideally suited to see if there's a Joe Scarborough fan club thread on DU.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 03, 2025 01:42 PM (tT6L1)

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MSNBC is right wing misinformation. They barely talk about Trump's scandals.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 03, 2025 01:43 PM (GBKbO)

96 What conservative shit has Scarborough done?

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at April 03, 2025 01:43 PM (jM63s)

97 Didn’t Scarborough guest host the Rush Limbaugh show a time or two? Maybe misremembering. Chrissy Mathews did, and John Kasich iirc.

Bunch of whores, really. I shouldn’t disparage prostitutes, they make an honest living

Posted by: Common Tater at April 03, 2025 01:43 PM (EbGPh)

98 from prior thread: The CEO of a nonprofit that helps feed people in Minnesota is under the microscope for the salary she reportedly earned in one year.

The issue surrounds Second Harvest Heartland CEO Allison O’Toole, who apparently raked in $721,000 in 2022, Alpha News reported on Wednesday.
Posted by: SMOD at April 03, 2025 01:38 PM (RHGPo)

There's a LOT of money in poverty.

Posted by: LASue at April 03, 2025 01:43 PM (lCppi)

99 Grok is unable to list major votes where Joe voted against the leadership.
I'd say, if it was real, and not another Biden-style Truth, he'd easily cite the legislation.

Oh, and Joe voted with the Republicans to impeach Bill Clinton.

Finally, Grok suggests:
As a rough estimate, given his conservative leanings and the polarized climate of the Gingrich era, Scarborough likely voted with Democrats on less than 10–15% of significant legislative votes—perhaps 50 to 100 times across his 4,075 total roll calls, mostly on niche or procedural matters rather than marquee legislation.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 03, 2025 01:44 PM (lEdS5)

100 I'm incredibly annoyed that I listened to 5 seconds of that music clip before realizing it wasn't a parody or gag video, but a legit actual attempt at artistry.

My day is ruined.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously
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We're gonna need some TV earworms to flush that shit.

Posted by: wth at April 03, 2025 01:44 PM (v0R5T)

101 Joe and Mika made a pilgrimage to Trump after the election, yes??? Interesting conversation I imagine…

Posted by: tubal at April 03, 2025 01:44 PM (eOT8t)

102 And so, I get up there, and I start voting in ways they don't want me to vote, and they threaten me. And at one point, I had a member of leadership say, if you, you know, if you don't go this way, Scarborough, we're going to, and I cut him off.

When the GOPe threatens you it is about shutting off whatever grift they are letting you in on.

But when the Deep State threatens you it is about releasing what really happened to that intern.

Looks like Scarborough isn't particularly greedy but he has a more damning skeleton in his office...

Posted by: 18-1 at April 03, 2025 01:44 PM (t0Rmr)

103 41 I actually remember when Banjo Boy was conservative. Is it because someone knows the truth of the dead intern that he switched sides?
Posted by: kallisto at April 03, 2025 01:22 PM (+EtIV)

I'm gonna blow your mind. Chances are, he was never conservative. He was what we call a liar.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
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I would say that is true of 80% or more GOP members of Congress and quite possibly the nation at large as far as GOP officeholders.

There is a reason we are in the mess that we are.
By and large, our credentialed GOP officeholders and GOP donors are left of center as a class value that they share with Dems.

Posted by: whig at April 03, 2025 01:44 PM (ctrM5)

104 I start every day with a PowerBlock of Scarborough Rock.
Posted by: ace at April 03, 2025 01:42 PM (KRtlO)
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Wouldn't sewing your eyelids shut be a better use of your time?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 03, 2025 01:44 PM (tT6L1)

105 from prior thread: The CEO of a nonprofit that helps feed people in Minnesota is under the microscope for the salary she reportedly earned in one year.

The issue surrounds Second Harvest Heartland CEO Allison O’Toole, who apparently raked in $721,000 in 2022, Alpha News reported on Wednesday.
Posted by: SMOD at April 03, 2025 01:38 PM (RHGPo)

There's a LOT of money in poverty.
Posted by: LASue at April 03, 2025 01:43 PM (lCppi)
__________

[Nods sagaciously]

-- Al Sharpton

Posted by: Elric Blade at April 03, 2025 01:44 PM (iFTx/)

106 83 Are you going to Scarborough Fair???
Posted by: tubal at April 03, 2025 01:40 PM (eOT8t)

Only if I can do the counter lyrics of the song...

Generals order their soldiers to kill

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 03, 2025 01:44 PM (QAkQ3)

107 Dim Joe and his Not-Really-A-Blonde side piece are just paid whores. Nothing more. They will gladly say whatever they are told to say, and take the checks right to the bank.
Posted by: Brewingfrog at April 03, 2025 01:26 PM (glBen)

Which makes them smarter than most of the people in the media who start to believe the bilge they peddle.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 03, 2025 01:31 PM (ExV1e)

I honestly think that I would have no idea who these people are but for Ace's rants about them.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 03, 2025 01:45 PM (i24o9)

108 yacht rock > Scarborough Rock

Posted by: wth at April 03, 2025 01:45 PM (v0R5T)

109 >>I start every day with a PowerBlock of Scarborough Rock.

Yacht Rock - Out

Shelf Rock - In

Posted by: garrett at April 03, 2025 01:45 PM (AVXxY)

110 The issue surrounds Second Harvest Heartland CEO Allison O’Toole, who apparently raked in $721,000 in 2022, Alpha News reported on Wednesday.
Posted by: SMOD at April 03, 2025 01:38 PM (RHGPo)

There's a LOT of money in poverty.

Posted by: LASue

Doing good by doing well has certainly escalated.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 03, 2025 01:45 PM (lTGtQ)

111 Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-MD), ranking member of the House Judiciary Committee, is demanding that President Donald Trump bring Jimmy Hoffa back to the United States.

Posted by: SMOD at April 03, 2025 01:45 PM (RHGPo)

112 62 I would rate Joe Scarborough as a Paul Ryan/Kevin McCarthy type Republican, which means he was NEVER a Conservative in any sense of the word. It's funny that testosterone challenged male hosts over at MSNBC (Lawrence O'Donnell and Joe Scarborough) love telling everyone what "tough guys" they are, when we all know that a wheelchair bound circus monkey could kick both their asses easily!
Posted by: Tracy at April 03, 2025 01:33 PM (MC9pP

Could Tim Walz kick their asses?

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at April 03, 2025 01:45 PM (jM63s)

113 90 kallisto...A chopstick in your ear might improve the sound.
Posted by: wth at April 03, 2025 01:42 PM (v0R5T)

lol

When I did have a good ear, I enjoyed listening to Kid Rock and Ted Nugent’s collab of their legendary “Joe, Stop killing those interns!” jam.

Posted by: kallisto at April 03, 2025 01:45 PM (5S0JC)

114 He so full of himself and thinks he's so important. I had never heard of him until he was suspected of Chandra levy'ing his intern.

Posted by: CaliGirl at April 03, 2025 01:46 PM (FjtSk)

115 Oh, and Joe voted with the Republicans to impeach Bill Clinton.

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That's how I first learned about him (I think he might have been a freshman CongressCritter -- and apparently loved getting in front of the microphone and the camera). I thought he was one of the House Managers of the impeachment, but Grok says no.

Posted by: ShainS -- If Elon Bought Planned Parenthood, The Left Would Hate Abortion at April 03, 2025 01:46 PM (aaqu4)

116 Next week, Joe will don water skis and jump over a shark tank to revive his career.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 03, 2025 01:32 PM (lTGtQ)

Then he and Mika will bring in their adorable and precocious tow-headed 4 year old "cousin" named Oliver.

Posted by: LASue at April 03, 2025 01:47 PM (lCppi)

117 Wouldn't sewing your eyelids shut be a better use of your time?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 03, 2025 01:44 PM (tT6L1)

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*Scribbles notes*

Posted by: Alice In Chains at April 03, 2025 01:47 PM (2UnvF)

118 81 Scarborough is a POS. He could not even make a good used car salesman. How he keeps his job is a wonder.
Posted by: Case
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The money that Scarborough gets is based on his public shitting on every past claimed value as a GOP congress critter.

No different than John Dean, Eye Patch McCain, the original POS McCain, etc.

You get money and attention by claiming truth teller status to the lefties by shitting on your own former side. Defector is close enough except Joe did not want to go to NORK land.

Posted by: whig at April 03, 2025 01:48 PM (ctrM5)

119 I bet Chris Hayes is quite the rocker, too.

Posted by: wth at April 03, 2025 01:48 PM (v0R5T)

120 Did Scarborough ever explain the dead female intern in his office?

Posted by: Chris at April 03, 2025 01:48 PM (Lxwdo)

121 Joe Scarborough was tough on his interns. Sometimes they needed to be corrected. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncsCBhyHwss

Posted by: Evi L. Bloggerlady at April 03, 2025 01:48 PM (8yM+6)

122 "Dime Slot Hillbilly eyes". Gutfeld was joking, adding "honesty" in the mix.

I'd say someone with "dime-slot Hillbilly eyes" would be on the order of a person like Alvin York, a rather difficult, cantankerous soul with little use for a cheat and a thief.

Posted by: mrp at April 03, 2025 01:49 PM (rj6Yv)

123 Did your intern threaten you, Joe?

Is that why you killed her?

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at April 03, 2025 01:49 PM (OuB2L)

124 ever since a certain event in 2003, they have hm by the short hairs and he acts accordingly, the coroner, who cleared him, was later convicted of trading in body parts,

Posted by: miguel cervantes at April 03, 2025 01:49 PM (bXbFr)

125 100 I'm incredibly annoyed that I listened to 5 seconds of that music clip before realizing it wasn't a parody or gag video, but a legit actual attempt at artistry.

My day is ruined.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously
.....

We're gonna need some TV earworms to flush that shit.
Posted by: wth at April 03, 2025 01:44 PM (v0R5T)

If you need a car or truck, go see Cal

Posted by: CaliGirl at April 03, 2025 01:49 PM (FjtSk)

126 Are you combing Scarborough's hair? Parsley, sage, Rosemary's in time.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 03, 2025 01:50 PM (63Dwl)

127 Did Scarborough ever explain the dead female intern in his office?

Posted by: Chris

Or the live boy?

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 03, 2025 01:50 PM (lTGtQ)

128 Scarborough looks like the type to wear a leather gimp suit with zipper access to the bung hole.

Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at April 03, 2025 01:50 PM (dkDdC)

129 Do you see Joe Scarborough there?
Bullshit, fraud, censorship and crime
On a station favored nowhere
Pay no heed, he lies all the time...

Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at April 03, 2025 01:50 PM (OUMaO)

130 109 >>I start every day with a PowerBlock of Scarborough Rock.

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Too many 'brown' notes if ya know what I mean.

Posted by: whig at April 03, 2025 01:50 PM (ctrM5)

131 I'm gonna blow your mind. Chances are, he was never conservative. He was what we call a liar.

I'm going to disagree a bit.

I think a lot of these pols were in every measure a conservative before they went to DC. But...their ideals weren't held all that solidly.

Then you get to DC and immediately you principles get questioned in all sorts of ways. You have lobbyists and bureaucrats asking for and offering small favors, women (or men) throwing themselves at you, and "friends" from earlier years call for "help"

And once you start making small sacrifices of your principles it gets easier and easier to make ever bigger ones AND to justify doing it as the right choice.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 03, 2025 01:50 PM (t0Rmr)

132 How did he fit an Oldsmobile in his office?

Posted by: Zombie Lion of the Senate at April 03, 2025 01:50 PM (pBnSW)

133 *Scribbles notes*
Posted by: Alice In Chains at April 03, 2025 01:47 PM (2UnvF)
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You guys actually had enough talent to make that an interesting song.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 03, 2025 01:50 PM (tT6L1)

134 His music makes me want to pull a Bluto on the staircase.

Posted by: Seems Legit at April 03, 2025 01:50 PM (PMtkd)

135 Afternoon ace.
The so called Republicans at MSNBC are pathetic. Scarborough, Steele, Nicole Wallace all did something to shaft republicans. Scarborough quit Congress and had other "issues", Steele sucked as party VP and Wallace stabbed Palin in the back. That they make their money at MSNBC is just par for the course

Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 03, 2025 01:50 PM (MxsNV)

136 The mystery Trump is referring to is the death of one of Scarborough’s district office workers. In July 2001, 28-year-old Lori Klausutis, who had worked for Scarborough for about two years, was found dead at Scarborough's office in Fort Walton Beach, Florida.

A Florida medical examiner ruled the death an accident. The examiner, Dr. Michael Berkland, said that Klausutis had an undiagnosed heart condition that caused her to faint and fall. Her official cause of death was a blood clot that resulted from head trauma she appeared to have sustained in the fall. The examiner said “she hit a desk with the side of her head” when she fell.

Posted by: SMOD at April 03, 2025 01:51 PM (RHGPo)

137 100 I'm incredibly annoyed that I listened to 5 seconds of that music clip before realizing it wasn't a parody or gag video, but a legit actual attempt at artistry.

My day is ruined.
Posted by: joe

Never click on AOS links unless you damn sure know that they are okay. Joe Mannix and Fenelon for example.

Posted by: whig at April 03, 2025 01:51 PM (ctrM5)

138
My son-in-law

https://tinyurl.com/4uc8r4mp

Posted by: Swamp Rabbit at April 03, 2025 01:51 PM (EFZgU)

139 ever since a certain event in 2003, they have hm by the short hairs and he acts accordingly, the coroner, who cleared him, was later convicted of trading in body parts,

The great thing about endless laws and selective prosecution is that there is always something you can arrest someone for if they stop being useful to the narrative.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 03, 2025 01:51 PM (t0Rmr)

140 Scarborough looks like the type to wear a leather gimp suit with zipper access to the bung hole.
Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at April 03, 2025 01:50 PM (dkDdC)
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I think you should go from "might" to "has."

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 03, 2025 01:52 PM (tT6L1)

141 What a talent. He plays piano, too. Is there anything he can't do?
Posted by: wth

Yes.

Mika

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at April 03, 2025 01:52 PM (FxH7T)

142 ever since a certain event in 2003, they have hm by the short hairs and he acts accordingly, the coroner, who cleared him, was later convicted of trading in body parts,

Posted by: miguel cervantes at April 03, 2025 01:49 PM (bXbFr)

He ran a chop shop?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 03, 2025 01:52 PM (i24o9)

143 Remember back when Joe and Mika were very obviously having an affair and they always sat oddly close to each other with their shoulders touching? They don't do that anymore...

Posted by: Ktgreat at April 03, 2025 01:52 PM (33LJY)

144 Well, duh. Because the Republican Party moved so far to the left that the only conservative option is the Democrat Party.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

I have it on retarded authority that even MSNBC is right wing corporate propaganda.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at April 03, 2025 01:52 PM (ekm7d)

145 If you need a car or truck, go see Cal
Posted by: CaliGirl at April 03, 2025 01:49 PM (FjtSk)

Cal Worthington and his dog Mika !

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at April 03, 2025 01:53 PM (NtVYv)

146 What is it with Jews and Unfortunate Last Names?

Either Jews have the worst last names, such as "Lipschitz" or "Hymen," or the coolest last names, such as "Diamond."

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 03, 2025 01:36 PM (U87Q7)
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Here in Israel, I once met someone whose last name was Bozo. He was a marketing manager. I could not help breaking out in laughter when I was introduced to him decades ago.

I also once received a letter from Israel's National Insurance Institute (SSA equivalent), signed by a low level bureaucrat whose family name was Loser.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 03, 2025 01:53 PM (IMKWe)

147
A Florida medical examiner ruled the death an accident. The examiner, Dr. Michael Berkland, said that Klausutis had an undiagnosed heart condition that caused her to faint and fall. Her official cause of death was a blood clot that resulted from head trauma she appeared to have sustained in the fall. The examiner said “she hit a desk with the side of her head” when she fell.

That comes straight from The Hunt for Red October.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 03, 2025 01:53 PM (t0Rmr)

148 Didn't the coroner have a bit of a drinking problem?

Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 03, 2025 01:53 PM (MxsNV)

149 135 Afternoon ace.
The so called Republicans at MSNBC are pathetic. Scarborough, Steele, Nicole Wallace all did something to shaft republicans. Scarborough quit Congress and had other "issues", Steele sucked as party VP and Wallace stabbed Palin in the back. That they make their money at MSNBC is just par for the course
Posted by: Smell the Glove
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And that MSNBC audience is dying off and getting ready to be spun off by NBC/Universal/Comcast blob. High paid talent is most likely to go in that situation as ad revenues for a dying cable news channel flatline. Take out Big Pharma ad revenue via HHS and MSNBC might have to go dark shortly thereafter.

Posted by: whig at April 03, 2025 01:53 PM (ctrM5)

150 Didn't this rock ribbed conservate go on TV during covid and say anyone who doesnt have a covid vax (or booster, I forget) should be denied all medical treatment for the rest of their lives?

Or am I mistaking him for someone else?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 03, 2025 01:54 PM (uCjyK)

151 144 I have it on retarded authority that even MSNBC is right wing corporate propaganda.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at April 03, 2025 01:52 PM (ekm7d)

======

Beat you to it!

#95

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 03, 2025 01:54 PM (GBKbO)

152 As the clock ticks down on the Trump administration’s deadline for China’s TikTok to find a U.S. buyer, e-commerce giant Amazon has thrown its hat into the ring, making a last-minute bid for the popular social media app.

Posted by: SMOD at April 03, 2025 01:54 PM (RHGPo)

153
weiner...

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 03, 2025 01:54 PM (U87Q7)

154 When lefties mouth off about how far right the Republicans have gone you can always shut them off with clips from older movies.

I was watching a clip from Rush Hour 2 where one of the male protagonists things the woman he has been making out with is really a transvestite and threatens to beat her up.

She confirms she is a woman and it is all played for laughs. In 2025 anyone in Hollywood suggesting this plot line would be cancelled...

Posted by: 18-1 at April 03, 2025 01:55 PM (t0Rmr)

155 152 As the clock ticks down on the Trump administration’s deadline for China’s TikTok to find a U.S. buyer, e-commerce giant Amazon has thrown its hat into the ring, making a last-minute bid for the popular social media app.
Posted by: SMOD

Good. Amazon will promptly kill it just like Rangz of Powr did to Tolkien's work outside the LOTR.

Posted by: whig at April 03, 2025 01:55 PM (ctrM5)

156 If you need a car or truck, go see Cal
Posted by: CaliGirl at April 03, 2025 01:49 PM (FjtSk)

I'll raise you

Pete Ellis Dodge, Long Beach Freeway, Firestone exit, Southgate

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at April 03, 2025 01:56 PM (NtVYv)

157
The CEO of a nonprofit that helps feed people in Minnesota is under the microscope for the salary she reportedly earned in one year.

The issue surrounds Second Harvest Heartland CEO Allison O’Toole, who apparently raked in $721,000 in 2022, Alpha News reported on Wednesday.
Posted by: SMOD

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The Feeding Our Future CEO is scoffing at this piker. They're both Minnesotans, too. Odd that.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 03, 2025 01:56 PM (lCaJd)

158 I have it on retarded authority that even MSNBC is right wing corporate propaganda.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at April 03, 2025 01:52 PM (ekm7d)

Well, they use "right wing" to mean anything they don't like, but other than that -- yeah, they're right.

MSNBC is a propaganda outfit owned by major corporations, funded by Big Pharma, and likely getting talking points from USAID / CIA like all the other media out there.

...Let's not fight them on this one.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 03, 2025 01:56 PM (uCjyK)

159 150 Didn't this rock ribbed conservate go on TV during covid and say anyone who doesnt have a covid vax (or booster, I forget) should be denied all medical treatment for the rest of their lives?

Or am I mistaking him for someone else?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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I'll allow the submission counselor. Goes to basic character of a POS poser.

Posted by: whig at April 03, 2025 01:56 PM (ctrM5)

160 I guess there is someone for everybody but come on, ladies, wtf is wrong with you? Scarborough looks like that kid with the banjo in Deliverance.

I don't get how Mika can look at his face during sex (she must be mounting him from behind).

Posted by: Seems Legit at April 03, 2025 01:56 PM (PMtkd)

161 That music video with all the nice black people was carefully shot. Although dime-slits is sitting behind a piano, I'll bet you he wasn't actually playing it. Look at the angles.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at April 03, 2025 01:57 PM (bNf8H)

162 weiner...

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 03, 2025 01:54 PM (U87Q7)
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More explicit is Dickman.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 03, 2025 01:57 PM (IMKWe)

163 In 2025 anyone in Hollywood suggesting this plot line would be cancelled...

Posted by: 18-1 at April 03, 2025 01:55 PM (t0Rmr)

You couldn't even make The Fifth Element anymore. Ruby Rhod would have everyone in Hollywood absolutely beside themselves.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at April 03, 2025 01:57 PM (OuB2L)

164 Why do I have Bruce Springsteen's Glory Days going off in my head?

Posted by: SpeakingOf at April 03, 2025 01:57 PM (6ydKt)

165 Sorry, but I can't resist posting this from Critical Drinker.

"The Message" Is Dead - Snow White Was The Funeral"

https://is.gd/ejm6ej

Posted by: Archimedes at April 03, 2025 01:57 PM (xCA6C)

166 MSNBC is a propaganda outfit owned by major corporations, funded by Big Pharma, and likely getting talking points from USAID / CIA like all the other media out there.

...Let's not fight them on this one.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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Intergenerational fight among lefties. The old DU types watch it like crack addled monkeys. The younger ones have social media (which is corporated, manipulative, and sells their data to whoever wants it). So pot calling kettle black.

Posted by: whig at April 03, 2025 01:58 PM (ctrM5)

167 I'll allow the submission counselor. Goes to basic character of a POS poser.
Posted by: whig at April 03, 2025 01:56 PM (ctrM5)

Heh, yeah. I don't know how anyone looks at someone like Scarborough and doesn't say "oh, right, DC is all fake and gay. They're paid actors."

When it was in his interest to be a "severely conservative" (like Mitt Romney), he was. Now that it's in his interest to play the super liberal quasi- Republican, he is that.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 03, 2025 01:59 PM (uCjyK)

168 When I was in college I popped a filling out and went to local dentist. We got talking and he said he was a conservative Jewish guy
Last name of the dentist: Lipnick
Not the best advertisement for a dentist

Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 03, 2025 01:59 PM (MxsNV)

169 more like beaker from the muppets,

Posted by: miguel cervantes at April 03, 2025 01:59 PM (bXbFr)

170 Mitch McConnell:

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 03, 2025 01:20 PM (VNX3d)

Counterpoint:

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Posted by: Gabby Giffords

Heard at the ongoing funeral:

_______________________

Posted by: John McCain at April 03, 2025 01:59 PM (PMJuY)

171 Wall Street is freaking out over any stock that uses low wage foreign workers to produce their goods.

NVIDIA (NVDA) (-6.92%)
Apple Inc. (AAPL) (-9.00%)
NIKE, Inc. (NKE) (-12.61%)
The Gap, Inc. (GAP) (-19.69%)
Five Below, Inc. (FIVE) (-26.03%)
Wayfair Inc. (W) (-27.52%)

Posted by: SMOD at April 03, 2025 01:59 PM (RHGPo)

172 Joe was such a weak link he couldn’t make it out of the primaries.

Posted by: Braenard - some Best Friends are more important than others at April 03, 2025 01:59 PM (cTA10)

173 "This version of Biden, intellectually, analytically, is the best Biden ever. Not a close second and I've known him for years. If it weren't the truth, I wouldn't say it."

Joe knew this was a damn lie when he said, but he knew his viewers would believe it it a the gospel truth.
This is why we have so many lunatics out there voting Democrat. They have no clue what the truth really is because of people like Scarborough.

Posted by: redridinghood at April 03, 2025 02:00 PM (NpAcC)

174 160 I guess there is someone for everybody but come on, ladies, wtf is wrong with you? Scarborough looks like that kid with the banjo in Deliverance.

I don't get how Mika can look at his face during sex (she must be mounting him from behind).
Posted by: Seems Legit

In a way, the way both earn their wealth will inevitably lead to unhappiness in the long run. Something Something, ancient guide to living right, mumble mumble.

"Live not by lies" is a pretty good summary though of one of its key precepts.

Posted by: whig at April 03, 2025 02:00 PM (ctrM5)

175 @164 the guy who Springsteen was talking about from HS just died the other day

Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 03, 2025 02:00 PM (MxsNV)

176 How did he fit an Oldsmobile in his office?
Posted by: Zombie Lion of the Senate
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It's comments like this that draw me to this din of iniquity.

Well, that and the content.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 03, 2025 02:00 PM (XeU6L)

177 That comes straight from The Hunt for Red October.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 03, 2025 01:53 PM (t0Rmr)

'Slipping on some tea.'
-Marco Ramius

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 03, 2025 02:01 PM (zZu0s)

178 Joe Biden used to watch "Morning Joe" all the time when he was President (was he, really?).
It kept him in touch with the regular folks.

True story.

Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at April 03, 2025 02:01 PM (vcOmj)

179
"Never click on AOS links unless you damn sure know that they are okay. Joe Mannix and zombie for example"

Fixed it.

Posted by: 13times at April 03, 2025 02:01 PM (25phM)

180 Heh, yeah. I don't know how anyone looks at someone like Scarborough and doesn't say "oh, right, DC is all fake and gay. They're paid actors."

When it was in his interest to be a "severely conservative" (like Mitt Romney), he was. Now that it's in his interest to play the super liberal quasi- Republican, he is that.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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Always to be said, DC is Hollywood for ugly people.

Posted by: whig at April 03, 2025 02:01 PM (ctrM5)

181 If you click on Akbar links you know what you are doing by this point...

Posted by: 18-1 at April 03, 2025 02:01 PM (t0Rmr)

182 Intergenerational fight among lefties. The old DU types watch it like crack addled monkeys. The younger ones have social media (which is corporated, manipulative, and sells their data to whoever wants it). So pot calling kettle black.
Posted by: whig at April 03, 2025 01:58 PM (ctrM5)

I get it though. Talking to Boomer Fox News Republicans is just as frustrating.

Whatever the BREAKING NEWS chyron says that day is their talking points for the day.

Boomer MSNBC Democrats are the same way.

Are the younger generations as monolithic (bilithic? Is that a word?) in their thinking due to social media? I don't think so. But maybe. Hard to say.

But I can ascertain what Fox News is saying on any given day about any subject by talking to my 75 year old neighbor about pleasantries for 5 minutes.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 03, 2025 02:02 PM (uCjyK)

183 CBC....The Canadian Prime Minister is all butthurt.

The world economy is over.

Screw yiu. MAGA baby,

Try it some time.

Posted by: Stateless...81% - mental state clawing up from 10% at April 03, 2025 02:02 PM (jvJvP)

184 This Joe Scarborough dude being discussed is actually Mr. Mika, correct?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 03, 2025 02:02 PM (a3Q+t)

185 179
"Never click on AOS links unless you damn sure know that they are okay. Joe Mannix and zombie for example"

Fixed it.
Posted by: 13times
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Umm, something something that Adm Ackbar might say about that revision.

Posted by: whig at April 03, 2025 02:02 PM (ctrM5)

186 >> Wayfair Inc. (W) (-27.52%)

Damn, did Trump slap tariffs on third-world catamites, too?

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 03, 2025 02:03 PM (l3YAf)

187 Sort of interesting to hear all of the screeching about tariffs from foreign countries.

It's almost like the US is still the big economic powerhouse of the world.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 03, 2025 02:03 PM (tT6L1)

188 Looks like the US now has a Queen -
x.com/ryangrim/status/1907822486760124459

Posted by: gKWVE at April 03, 2025 02:04 PM (gKWVE)

189 Wall Street is freaking out over any stock that uses low wage foreign workers to produce their goods.

NVIDIA (NVDA) (-6.92%)
Apple Inc. (AAPL) (-9.00%)
NIKE, Inc. (NKE) (-12.61%)
The Gap, Inc. (GAP) (-19.69%)
Five Below, Inc. (FIVE) (-26.03%)
Wayfair Inc. (W) (-27.52%)
Posted by: SMOD at April 03, 2025 01:59 PM (RHGPo)

Good. They should be freaking out.

There's a ~~new~~ old(?) world order in town, and hopefully it will stick.

No more slave shoes. Make your overpriced Nike's in the US.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 03, 2025 02:04 PM (uCjyK)

190 Wall Street is freaking out over any stock that uses low wage foreign workers to produce their goods.

NVIDIA (NVDA) (-6.92%)
Apple Inc. (AAPL) (-9.00%)
NIKE, Inc. (NKE) (-12.61%)
The Gap, Inc. (GAP) (-19.69%)
Five Below, Inc. (FIVE) (-26.03%)
Wayfair Inc. (W) (-27.52%)
Posted by: SMOD

The denizens of the Wall Street Journal are literally FREAKING OUT about the Trump tariff regime. It's going to hurt us, kill us, murder us...MAKE IT STOP!

The WSJ is not nearly the paper it used to be, since the Murdoch family bought it. It's closer to USA Today now.

Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at April 03, 2025 02:04 PM (vcOmj)

191 Mika regularly pegs Joe. Prove me wrong

Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 03, 2025 02:04 PM (MxsNV)

192 Joe citing the election percentages is a laugh riot. Even if the conversation happened, which is unlikely, nobody is gonna rattle off the election returns when prepping for a fight.

And if this happened, name some names.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 03, 2025 02:04 PM (n7h9X)

193 the funny thing is he probably believes this story. he made up about himself
Posted by: Black Orchid at April 03, 2025 01:20 PM

You say that like it's a Bad Thing.

Posted by: Jos. Robinette Biden at April 03, 2025 02:04 PM (a3Q+t)

194 As the clock ticks down on the Trump administration’s deadline for China’s TikTok to find a U.S. buyer, e-commerce giant Amazon has thrown its hat into the ring, making a last-minute bid for the popular social media app.

Amazon's horrific mismanagement of Twitch (they made a Marxist Arab who gave softball interviews to Houthi and Hamas leaders on his stream the face of the platform) means TikTok wouldn't be a problem in the future if that went through.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 03, 2025 02:04 PM (2ocoG)

195 But I can ascertain what Fox News is saying on any given day about any subject by talking to my 75 year old neighbor about pleasantries for 5 minutes.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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Sounds about right. Fox cable news audience is only a few years younger than the average MSDNC audience member. Last I checked, MSDNC is almost 70 while Fox is somewhere about 61-62. CNN was in the middle.

Posted by: whig at April 03, 2025 02:04 PM (ctrM5)

196 >> Are the younger generations as monolithic (bilithic? Is that a word?) in their thinking due to social media? I don't think so. But maybe. Hard to say.

The younger generation is trading Wojaks.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 03, 2025 02:04 PM (l3YAf)

197 An advance copy generously (nobody bought it, they had some extra copies -ed.) provided to Business Insider showed artwork depicting Trump as the Grinch.

The EP includes three songs, complete with sleigh-bell jingles, lyrics about reindeer, and a track titled "The Drumpf," a jazzy, ballad-tempo cut seemingly indebted to "You're a Mean One, Mr. Grinch."

"Oh you can save our Christmas from going kerplumf, from that orange creep that children call the Drumpf?" the band sings on "The Drumpf," which also references former White House communications director Anthony Scaramucci.

Best lyrics since Dylan, man.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at April 03, 2025 02:05 PM (6ydKt)

198 187 Sort of interesting to hear all of the screeching about tariffs from foreign countries.

Looks like it paid England to 'Brexit".. The tariffs are lower than the EU

Posted by: It's me donna at April 03, 2025 02:05 PM (VE6XX)

199 "Live not by lies" is a pretty good summary though of one of its key precepts.
Posted by: whig

Did you read that book? My wife did, and has it around the house somewhere. She thought it was pretty good.

Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at April 03, 2025 02:05 PM (vcOmj)

200 Damn, did Trump slap tariffs on third-world catamites, too?
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director
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Yes.

Posted by: whig at April 03, 2025 02:05 PM (ctrM5)

201
Trump is putting a stop to a decades long redistribution of OUR wealth. Let's see what happens!

Posted by: ... at April 03, 2025 02:05 PM (XZ9Wx)

202 Mika regularly pegs Joe. Prove me wrong
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 03, 2025 02:04 PM

Getting pegged isn't what it's cracked up to be.

Posted by: Al Bundy at April 03, 2025 02:06 PM (a3Q+t)

203 175 @164 the guy who Springsteen was talking about from HS just died the other day

Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 03, 2025 02:00 PM (MxsNV)

-- --

Ahhh, I didn't even know it was based on real people.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at April 03, 2025 02:06 PM (6ydKt)

204 Did you read that book? My wife did, and has it around the house somewhere. She thought it was pretty good.
Posted by: A face in the crowd....
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Heh. Read the Good Book every day actually. Read half of the Book of Daniel last night.

Posted by: whig at April 03, 2025 02:06 PM (ctrM5)

205 > "dime-slot Hillbilly eyes"
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ROTFL

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 03, 2025 02:06 PM (Q4IgG)

206 Paul A. Szypula
@Bubblebathgirl
Snow White is set to be a big loss for Disney.

The failed film cost around $270 million to make and $100 million to market.

It would have to gross around $500 million globally

to break even.

According to Deadline, it’s projected to only make $225 million.

Go woke, go broke. https://tinyurl.com/4a95p8sv

Posted by: redridinghood at April 03, 2025 02:06 PM (NpAcC)

207 The denizens of the Wall Street Journal are literally FREAKING OUT about the Trump tariff regime. It's going to hurt us, kill us, murder us...MAKE IT STOP!

The WSJ is not nearly the paper it used to be, since the Murdoch family bought it. It's closer to USA Today now.
Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at April 03, 2025 02:04 PM (vcOmj)

You have a lot of confluences of interests making a lot of money off the existing system.

They will not go down without a fight.

They own and run the media. Of course the media will be trying to get people to freak out.

"Hey, the Dow might permanently drop by 10%, you should light your hair on fire. Yes, that may mean that you have a better job, making more money, and your kids can actually get jobs when they graduate college and hopefully afford to buy a house, get married and have kids. But trillions of fake dollars in the stock market will disappear! We can't allow that!"

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 03, 2025 02:07 PM (uCjyK)

208 No more slave shoes. Make your overpriced Nike's in the US.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 03, 2025 02:04 PM (uCjyK)

Higher lower cost workers here, train them up in inner cities or small towns. Get some way to make money there besides crime.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 03, 2025 02:07 PM (n7h9X)

209 "Oh you can save our Christmas from going kerplumf, from that orange creep that children call the Drumpf?" the band sings on "The Drumpf," which also references former White House communications director Anthony Scaramucci.

That guy was WH Director of Comms for literally 1 month, some 8 years ago, and yet he's still around on media as if he's relevant. It's hard to understand. And by hard, I mean extremely easy.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 03, 2025 02:07 PM (xCA6C)

210 >>NVIDIA (NVDA) (-6.92%)

lol

NVIDIA is artificially inflated more than Joe Scarborough's ego.

Posted by: garrett at April 03, 2025 02:07 PM (AVXxY)

211 Lemme guess, Joe's song mentioning Scaramucci: "Scaramucci, Scaramucci, will you do the fandango?"

Posted by: Ian S. at April 03, 2025 02:08 PM (2ocoG)

212 Joe Scarborough.

Now there's a fella that sits in a men's room stall for the aroma.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 03, 2025 02:08 PM (aPY1X)

213 NVIDIA (NVDA) (-6.92%)

lol

NVIDIA is artificially inflated more than Joe Scarborough's ego.

You missed a perfect opportunity to bring up inflatable scrotum man.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 03, 2025 02:08 PM (xCA6C)

214 NVIDIA is artificially inflated more than Joe Scarborough's ego.
Posted by: garrett at April 03, 2025 02:07 PM (AVXxY)
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Funny thing, as I was reading that, I was looking for the last word to be "scrotum."

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 03, 2025 02:09 PM (tT6L1)

215 >>You have a lot of confluences of interests making a lot of money off the existing system.

The only people benefitting off the Status Quo are definitely expressing their intense butthurt.

Posted by: garrett at April 03, 2025 02:09 PM (AVXxY)

216 206 The failed film cost around $270 million to make and $100 million to market.

It would have to gross around $500 million globally

to break even.

According to Deadline, it’s projected to only make $225 million.

Go woke, go broke. https://tinyurl.com/4a95p8sv
Posted by: redridinghood at April 03, 2025 02:06 PM (NpAcC)

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It cost at least $380 million. The $270 is pre-reshoots.

It'd actually need to make, assuming the $100 for marketing is correct (I'd guess $200, but whatever), $800 million to break even.

(The generally accepted rule is Budget / 0.6 to account for the theaters' share of ticket prices.)

So, if it only makes $225 million, it's more than a half billion dollar loss. That's...worse than John Carter.

And John Carter didn't suck.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 03, 2025 02:09 PM (GBKbO)

217 Don't look now but they're making a remake/sequel of The Naked Gun:

https://tinyurl.com/3csuac4j

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 03, 2025 02:09 PM (IMKWe)

218 And the Horde mind strikes again.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 03, 2025 02:09 PM (tT6L1)

219
The Senate has passed a largely performative rebuke of President Donald Trump's ability to impose tariffs on Canada, after four Republicans crossed the aisle for a 51-48 vote.

The four Republicans who joined all Senate Democrats were; Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, Susan Collins of Maine, Mitch McConnell of Kentucky and Rand Paul of Kentucky.

Following the vote, former Senate GOP leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) said, "As I have always warned, tariffs are bad policy, and trade wars with our partners hurt working people most."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 03, 2025 02:09 PM (63Dwl)

220 Wall Street is freaking out over any stock that uses low wage foreign workers to produce their goods.

NVIDIA (NVDA) (-6.92%)
Apple Inc. (AAPL) (-9.00%)
NIKE, Inc. (NKE) (-12.61%)
The Gap, Inc. (GAP) (-19.69%)
Five Below, Inc. (FIVE) (-26.03%)
Wayfair Inc. (W) (-27.52%)
Posted by: SMOD at April 03, 2025 01:59 PM (RHGPo)

But, BRK-B ( -.36% )

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at April 03, 2025 02:09 PM (NtVYv)

221 208 No more slave shoes. Make your overpriced Nike's in the US.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 03, 2025 02:04 PM (uCjyK)

Higher lower cost workers here, train them up in inner cities or small towns. Get some way to make money there besides crime.
Posted by: Oldcat
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Best social welfare policy ever invented was getting a job in the private sector and keeping employed. Stan makes work for idle hands.

Posted by: whig at April 03, 2025 02:10 PM (ctrM5)

222 147
A Florida medical examiner ruled the death an accident. The examiner, Dr. Michael Berkland, said that Klausutis had an undiagnosed heart condition that caused her to faint and fall. Her official cause of death was a blood clot that resulted from head trauma she appeared to have sustained in the fall. The examiner said “she hit a desk with the side of her head” when she fell.

That comes straight from The Hunt for Red October.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 03, 2025 01:53 PM (t0Rmr)
__________________________

"One punch. One punch only, Vasily"

Posted by: Orson at April 03, 2025 02:10 PM (dIske)

223 Higher lower cost workers here, train them up in inner cities or small towns. Get some way to make money there besides crime.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 03, 2025 02:07 PM (n7h9X)

I hate to sound like a socialist here, but the margins on sneakers are fucking insane.

They can pay people a fairly decent wage and still make a very healthy profit margin.

Plus you don't have to deal with shipping them half way around the world, which is not cheap.

In fact, New Balance makes some of their shoes in the US, and as far as I can tell, they're not much more expensive than overseas slave shoes.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 03, 2025 02:10 PM (uCjyK)

224 Do you think Mika pegs Joe?

Posted by: Dirac_Delta at April 03, 2025 02:10 PM (/jCTz)

225 more like beaker from the muppets,
Posted by: miguel cervantes at April 03, 2025 01:59 PM

I'm more of a flask guy, myself.

Posted by: Erlenmeyer at April 03, 2025 02:10 PM (a3Q+t)

226 @219 bet China told Mitch to say that

Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 03, 2025 02:10 PM (MxsNV)

227 Higher lower cost workers here, train them up in inner cities or small towns. Get some way to make money there besides crime.

There are millions of black male Americans who would probably pay Nike to be involved in making Air Jordans. I have no idea why Nike didn't figure that out yet.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 03, 2025 02:10 PM (2ocoG)

228 219
Following the vote, former Senate GOP leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) said, "As I have always warned, tariffs are bad policy, and trade wars with our partners hurt working people most."
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 03, 2025 02:09 PM (63Dwl)

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So...why not pass a constitutional amendment to outlaw all tariffs?

And make it illegal to trade with any nation that puts tariffs on our products?

Do that instead of selective outrage over tariff use.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 03, 2025 02:10 PM (GBKbO)

229 The failed film cost around $270 million to make and $100 million to market.

It would have to gross around $500 million globally

to break even.

According to Deadline, it’s projected to only make $225 million.

Go woke, go broke. https://tinyurl.com/4a95p8sv
Posted by: redridinghood at April 03, 2025 02:06 PM (NpAcC)

That 270 million number is a total fabrication. And it doesn't account for advertising, or the costs associated with reshoots over its agonizingly long production. You don't get real film costs until they have to file taxes in England on the production.

I heard that someone estimated the break even point for this show is 850-900 million.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 03, 2025 02:10 PM (n7h9X)

230 I saw a wit on Instagram who had two televisions next to each other, one CNN, and one FOX.

He moved from the CNN screen which showed Trump as unusually orange to FOX which showed Trump with his usual self-tan color.

It is a small but unnecessary manipulation.

Posted by: Seems Legit at April 03, 2025 02:10 PM (PMtkd)

231 Damn the D-owww full tariffs ahead...
Every good Captain goes down with his ship!

Posted by: I was Gumby Damn It! at April 03, 2025 02:10 PM (k1h6q)

232 212 Joe Scarborough.

Now there's a fella that sits in a men's room stall for the aroma.

Posted by: AlaBAMA
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That is Ace approved cruelty right there.

Posted by: whig at April 03, 2025 02:11 PM (ctrM5)

233 Following the vote, former Senate GOP leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) said, "As I have always warned, tariffs are bad policy, and trade wars with our partners hurt working people most."

What he actually said was " ", but a staffer did a bit of massaging of his remarks.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 03, 2025 02:11 PM (xCA6C)

234 I think Trump's using the entire tariff situation as a carrot and stick sort of thing. It's not so much about what so-and-so is saying about the tariff percentages... they're probably grossly over/under estimated anyway... but more about getting a better/fair trade deal out of it for the US.

People tend to get bogged down in the minutia of numbers when that's really not the point of the whole ordeal.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 03, 2025 02:11 PM (Q4IgG)

235 226 @219 bet China told Mitch to say that
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 03, 2025 02:10 PM (MxsNV)

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That's a safe bet.

Posted by: Seems Legit at April 03, 2025 02:11 PM (PMtkd)

236 no, but it was paced like a snail, set in the post civil war west, then somehow he finds himself on Mars,

Posted by: miguel cervantes at April 03, 2025 02:12 PM (bXbFr)

237 There are millions of black male Americans who would probably pay Nike to be involved in making Air Jordans. I have no idea why Nike didn't figure that out yet.
Posted by: Ian S.

Because they won't work for a bowl of rice.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 03, 2025 02:12 PM (8HZkO)

238 229 That 270 million number is a total fabrication. And it doesn't account for advertising, or the costs associated with reshoots over its agonizingly long production. You don't get real film costs until they have to file taxes in England on the production.

I heard that someone estimated the break even point for this show is 850-900 million.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 03, 2025 02:10 PM (n7h9X)

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I think the $270 is based on British filings from, like, 2 years ago.

Reshoots have happened since.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 03, 2025 02:12 PM (GBKbO)

239 Wall Street Journal of old certainly wanted open borders.

Posted by: torabora at April 03, 2025 02:12 PM (9/Ezw)

240 Following the vote, former Senate GOP leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) said, "As I have always warned, tariffs are bad policy, and trade wars with our partners hurt working people most."

Tell the Canadians to stop charging 270% tariffs on Wisconsin cheese then. They could make pretty good poutine with it.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 03, 2025 02:12 PM (2ocoG)

241 I actually remember when Banjo Boy was conservative. Is it because someone knows the truth of the dead intern that he switched sides?
Posted by: kallisto at April 03, 2025 01:22 PM (+EtIV)
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I vaguely remember his time in Congress and thinking he was okay at the time. Once he left and got in front of a camera, man did he switch sides. And I thought what the heck?

Posted by: Darth Randall at April 03, 2025 02:12 PM (cegqk)

242 Alright...

I laughed at the trailer for The Naked Gun reboot.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 03, 2025 02:12 PM (GBKbO)

243 That 270 million number is a total fabrication. And it doesn't account for advertising, or the costs associated with reshoots over its agonizingly long production. You don't get real film costs until they have to file taxes in England on the production.

I heard that someone estimated the break even point for this show is 850-900 million.

CD covers that in the link I posted at 165.

https://is.gd/ejm6ej

Posted by: Archimedes at April 03, 2025 02:12 PM (xCA6C)

244 Could Tim Walz kick their asses?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at April 03, 2025 01:45 PM (jM63s)

Tim Walz couldn’t kick Stephen Hawkins ass.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 03, 2025 02:13 PM (dTleh)

245 Best social welfare policy ever invented was getting a job in the private sector and keeping employed. Stan makes work for idle hands.
Posted by: whig at April 03, 2025 02:10 PM (ctrM5)

100%. Even if the trade off is lower economic growth, a more reasonable return on the NYSE, and lower GDP growth, we still come out way ahead if we have a higher supply of jobs than we do a demand.

That should always be the goal. Make BK and Wendys compete for burger flippers. They compete by paying more money. That gets people off welfare, out of the cycle of despair, gives them hope for the future.

"Shit, I can make $22 an hour at BK? And managers make $80k a year? Maybe I should apply for a job there" is much better than "the only jobs available are fast food. It pays like shit, it's hard work, there's no path to making any real money, and welfare pays almost the same and I don't have to get off my couch."

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 03, 2025 02:13 PM (uCjyK)

246 >>Following the vote, former Senate GOP leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) said, "As I have always warned, tariffs are bad policy, and trade wars with our partners hurt working people most."

Now do the Fed setting Inflation Rates:

I mean...
IF Tariffs are a Tax, certainly Inflation is also a Tax.

Why not go after the Fed for damage done than go after Trump for potential damages not yet realized?

Posted by: garrett at April 03, 2025 02:13 PM (AVXxY)

247 Higher lower cost workers here, train them up in inner cities or small towns. Get some way to make money there besides crime.

There are millions of black male Americans who would probably pay Nike to be involved in making Air Jordans. I have no idea why Nike didn't figure that out yet.
Posted by: Ian S. at April 03, 2025 02:10 PM (2ocoG)

You could probably squeeze a subsidy out of a lot of groups too. And since Nike keeps throwing money about on stupid ads and painting stadiums they can afford some belt tightening.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 03, 2025 02:13 PM (n7h9X)

248 He moved from the CNN screen which showed Trump as unusually orange to FOX which showed Trump with his usual self-tan color.

It is a small but unnecessary manipulation.

Was it Time magazine that used to unnaturally darken W. on their covers and lighten Obama?

Posted by: Ian S. at April 03, 2025 02:13 PM (2ocoG)

249 I laughed at the trailer for The Naked Gun reboot.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 03, 2025 02:12 PM (GBKbO)
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Uh huh. Hope the rest of the movie is that good.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 03, 2025 02:14 PM (IMKWe)

250 the problem is most of the set pieces in John Carter have been in Star Wars and Dune and a host of other films,

also there was nowhere near enough Dejah Thoris, even the Syfy adaptation was better,

Posted by: miguel cervantes at April 03, 2025 02:14 PM (bXbFr)

251 "Hey, the Dow might permanently drop by 10%, you should light your hair on fire. Yes, that may mean that you have a better job, making more money, and your kids can actually get jobs when they graduate college and hopefully afford to buy a house, get married and have kids. But trillions of fake dollars in the stock market will disappear! We can't allow that!"

Posted by: Harry Paratestes

Anyone who has bought any stock outside of seven tech names in the past decade is well ahead of the game even after this week.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 03, 2025 02:14 PM (lTGtQ)

252 One of my new favorite things is people talking like a recession now means a recession in October of 2026.

If a recession lasts that long...it's a depression.

Who's predicting a depression for the next 20 months?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 03, 2025 02:15 PM (GBKbO)

253 >>Higher lower cost workers here, train them up in inner cities or small towns. Get some way to make money there besides crime.

You think the product of out inner city schools can compete with the complex skillsets of Uighyer Slave Laborers?

Posted by: garrett at April 03, 2025 02:15 PM (AVXxY)

254 Joe has always struck me as a more feminine version of k.d. lang.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at April 03, 2025 01:30 PM (KbCG3)

Heh. Funny on so many levels.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 03, 2025 02:15 PM (8zz6B)

255 Okay, Mitch, how about lowering taxes for those people you care so much about? If tariffs are so hard on the Middle Class, then maybe some tax relief?

No?

Then shut up.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 03, 2025 02:15 PM (tT6L1)

256 233 Following the vote, former Senate GOP leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) said, "As I have always warned, tariffs are bad policy, and trade wars with our partners hurt working people most."

What he actually said was " ", but a staffer did a bit of massaging of his remarks.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 03, 2025 02:11 PM (xCA6C)

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Does Mitch think Tariffs on American goods are bad policy and if so, what exactly did he do to eliminate them?

Posted by: Seems Legit at April 03, 2025 02:15 PM (PMtkd)

257 Daily Mail-
Chilling declassified CIA file reveals aliens committed 'revenge massacre' after UFO was shot down

https://tinyurl.com/3drw5mum

Posted by: redridinghood at April 03, 2025 02:15 PM (NpAcC)

258 249 I laughed at the trailer for The Naked Gun reboot.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 03, 2025 02:12 PM (GBKbO)
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Uh huh. Hope the rest of the movie is that good.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 03, 2025 02:14 PM (IMKWe)

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Probably won't be.

But the kneeling before the pictures...it made me chuckle.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 03, 2025 02:15 PM (GBKbO)

259 NVIDIA is artificially inflated more than Joe Scarborough's ego.
Posted by: garrett

NVIDIA has (had?) a great monopoly on a particular product, the so-called "AI Chip", of which there are variations of.
Now other people are copying, duplicating the design architecture.
NVIDIA was due for a substantial correction, but this might have pushed it time-forward.

Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at April 03, 2025 02:15 PM (vcOmj)

260 This amount of play in the market comes from big stock funds, some controlled by foreigners.

They are driving the market down in an attempt to get Trump to flinch... if this was actually about making money, they would have sold stocks that were going to be affected by Tariffs LAST WEEK...

None of this tariff stuff was a surprise... everyone KNEW it was coming... so this sell off is NOT about money... but about control.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 03, 2025 02:16 PM (QAkQ3)

261 >>>Following the vote, former Senate GOP leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) said, "As I have always warned, tariffs are bad policy, and trade wars with our partners hurt working people most."

I'd like him to cite his sources on that. I'd say NAFTA and these so-called "free trade deals" which were nothing of the sort hurt the working people the most. They helped a small group of extremely wealthy and well connected people.

Stopping off-shoring industries, outsourcing jobs, and in sourcing third world labor is how you help the "working people."

(also, since when are we calling normal people "workers" or "working people"? I feel like it's creeped in to our language in the last 10-20 years. Very Sovietesque.)

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 03, 2025 02:16 PM (uCjyK)

262 In comparison:

Prometheus
Production Budget: $125,000,000

All Time Worldwide Box Office Rank: 365
All Time Worldwide Box Office: $402,448,265

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 03, 2025 02:16 PM (a3Q+t)

263 they don't think that far ahead if that,

Posted by: miguel cervantes at April 03, 2025 02:17 PM (bXbFr)

264 Joe Scarhead left office claiming he was going to take care of his family, especially his son who had the Deebeetus. Actually he was banging a staffer at the time and then moved on to his paralegal's 3 holes before dumping her and landing the big money at MSNBC and his now whore wife Mika. A friend who worked with Scarhead while he pretended to "practice" law said he was a lazy, good for nothing boob who couldn't even run a deposition.

Posted by: Titty Baby Henry at April 03, 2025 02:17 PM (R/m4+)

265 Slave labor is cool, but why ca

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 03, 2025 02:17 PM (l3YAf)

266 Tell the Canadians to stop charging 270% tariffs on Wisconsin cheese then. They could make pretty good poutine with it.
Posted by: Ian S. at April 03, 2025 02:12 PM (2ocoG)

Plus we can only sell so much at any price.

If you want to preserve a local industry, just subsidize it or require the government to use local sources to provide a market. Or have US industries come and find out why they can't make cheese as well as US industries can,

Posted by: Oldcat at April 03, 2025 02:17 PM (n7h9X)

267 NVIDIA has (had?) a great monopoly on a particular product, the so-called "AI Chip", of which there are variations of.

They also have something like an 85% market share of graphics cards because AMD can't write a stable driver to save their lives. It's a much smaller business, but it's also what paid for the R&D on the AI chips in the first place.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 03, 2025 02:17 PM (2ocoG)

268 Scarborough was on my flight once back to Florida. I'm guessing he is 5-9 and weighs 160.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 03, 2025 02:17 PM (2DrSB)

269 262 In comparison:

Prometheus
Production Budget: $125,000,000

All Time Worldwide Box Office Rank: 365
All Time Worldwide Box Office: $402,448,265
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 03, 2025 02:16 PM (a3Q+t)

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Scott prides himself on being able to shoot quickly. Shooting quickly also means shooting cheaply (relatively).

Unless your shoot is interrupted multiple times by delays like on Gladiator II.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 03, 2025 02:18 PM (GBKbO)

270 The issue surrounds Second Harvest Heartland CEO Allison O’Toole, who apparently raked in $721,000 in 2022, Alpha News reported on Wednesday.
Posted by: SMOD at April 03, 2025 01:38 PM (RHGPo)
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The First Harvest was young Allison scoring $721,000 for pretending to feed losers.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 03, 2025 02:18 PM (YqDXo)

271 No more slave shoes. Make your overpriced Nike's in the US.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 03, 2025 02:04 PM (uCjyK)

Slave labor is cool, but why can’t I have my own slaves here in the U.S.? Why do I have to rent Nike’s slaves? Seems unfair.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 03, 2025 02:18 PM (l3YAf)

272 249 I laughed at the trailer for The Naked Gun reboot.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 03, 2025 02:12 PM (GBKbO)

Sorry... but Liam Neeson starring in a movie with GUN in the title.... after his political complaints about the US and Gun culture?

Yeah... no... besides, just another attempt to ride the coattails of a good movie or story, via remake.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 03, 2025 02:18 PM (QAkQ3)

273 Ridley did lose the plot on that one, but Alien Covenant was decidedly worse, I think the spaht guy wrote that script,

Posted by: miguel cervantes at April 03, 2025 02:18 PM (bXbFr)

274 Does Mitch think Tariffs on American goods are bad policy and if so, what exactly did he do to eliminate them?
Posted by: Seems Legit at April 03, 2025 02:15 PM (PMtkd)

Yes, the "tariffs hurt American workers" talk is never turned around. "Okay, well then aren't Canadian workers being killed by these tariffs they have on American goods? And if not, why not?"

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 03, 2025 02:19 PM (uCjyK)

275 And John Carter didn't suck.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 03, 2025 02:09 PM (GBKbO)

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What sucked for John Carter is that very few people had read the books or knew what it was.

I’d already read the first book so I liked the movie for what it was. I think they did a pretty decent job based on what I recall from the book.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at April 03, 2025 02:19 PM (6ydKt)

276 >>Scarborough was on my flight once back to Florida. I'm guessing he is 5-9 and weighs 160.

That was me in 6th-7th grade.

Posted by: garrett at April 03, 2025 02:19 PM (AVXxY)

277 271 No more slave shoes. Make your overpriced Nike's in the US.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 03, 2025 02:04 PM (uCjyK)

Slave labor is cool, but why can’t I have my own slaves here in the U.S.? Why do I have to rent Nike’s slaves? Seems unfair.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 03, 2025 02:18 PM (l3YAf)

Esse.... we need to talk...

Posted by: Mexican Cartel... at April 03, 2025 02:19 PM (QAkQ3)

278 My spouse has had a saying since college in the 90s and I agreed...if a 90 IQ male can't get a job to support his family, the country is broken. ALL policy has to be routed to making sure that person can get a job before you worry about anything else.

B/c if the 90 IQ male is working and married with kids, all the other social ills start fading away...

Posted by: Nova Local at April 03, 2025 02:20 PM (tOcjL)

279 I hate to sound like a socialist here, but the margins on sneakers are fucking insane.

They can pay people a fairly decent wage and still make a very healthy profit margin.

Plus you don't have to deal with shipping them half way around the world, which is not cheap.

In fact, New Balance makes some of their shoes in the US, and as far as I can tell, they're not much more expensive than overseas slave shoes.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

That is not socialist because you are not calling for the government to be the means of production. Tariffs create winners and losers just like Globo homo economics of a flat world. It is just Globo homo economics benefits the investor class and protective tariffs usually benefit those that only have their labor to sell.

Perfect example is the skyrocketing DJIA or S&P since the 1970's yet only one or two years during the Trump I administration did average US wages adjusted for inflation go up.

Posted by: whig at April 03, 2025 02:20 PM (ctrM5)

280 ...maybe not quite 160. More likely 145-150.

But, definitely not a fully developed man.

Posted by: garrett at April 03, 2025 02:20 PM (AVXxY)

281 (also, since when are we calling normal people "workers" or "working people"? I feel like it's creeped in to our language in the last 10-20 years. Very Sovietesque.)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 03, 2025 02:16 PM (uCjyK)

Working people is worse in my mind than Workers, despite its sovietish origins. WP has some kind of paternalistic pity in it that makes me retch.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 03, 2025 02:20 PM (n7h9X)

282 275 What sucked for John Carter is that very few people had read the books or knew what it was.

I’d already read the first book so I liked the movie for what it was. I think they did a pretty decent job based on what I recall from the book.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at April 03, 2025 02:19 PM (6ydKt)

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Disney let Andrew Stanton, the director, craft the marketing.

He seems to have assumed that John Carter was a well-known character in popular culture. A popular culture that had moved beyond John Carter with the rise of Flash Gordon in the 30s.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 03, 2025 02:20 PM (GBKbO)

283 Wall Street Journal of old certainly wanted open borders.
Posted by: torabora

You have to go back a pretty long way for the old WSJ. The Murdochs bought Dow Jones and the assorted companies in 2007.

But hey, they were all "free traders" and all that. It was going to be a great New World Order.

Frankly, how is it all working out? I know that I have changed my mind about all of this over the last 25 or so years.

Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at April 03, 2025 02:21 PM (vcOmj)

284 Slave labor is cool, but why can’t I have my own slaves here in the U.S.? Why do I have to rent Nike’s slaves? Seems unfair.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 03, 2025 02:18 PM (l3YAf)

You, too, can get a slave any time you want. All my rich friends have them. Entire household staffs of illegal immigrants who you don't have to pay minimum wage or worry about overtime rules and workers comp and payroll taxes and all of that nonsense. AND, as a bonus, they won't speak up or say anything to you, because they're scared that you'll fire them or get them deported.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 03, 2025 02:21 PM (uCjyK)

285 Tariffs hurt American workers, Mitch? Which Americans do the tariffs hurt more? The ones who still have a job or the ones who lost their job due to NAFTA?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 03, 2025 02:21 PM (tT6L1)

286 278 My spouse has had a saying since college in the 90s and I agreed...if a 90 IQ male can't get a job to support his family, the country is broken. ALL policy has to be routed to making sure that person can get a job before you worry about anything else.

B/c if the 90 IQ male is working and married with kids, all the other social ills start fading away...
Posted by: Nova Local
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Yep. And you have to shut off the spigot of foreign labor being imported to fill those jobs.

Posted by: whig at April 03, 2025 02:21 PM (ctrM5)

287 B/c if the 90 IQ male is working and married with kids, all the other social ills start fading away...

Which is why LBJ set about in the 60s to pay women to have fatherless children. It ensures future 90 IQ males won't marry and won't have productive jobs, so they have to vote for Uncle Sugar.

(And that's my personal JFK assassination theory).

Posted by: Ian S. at April 03, 2025 02:22 PM (2ocoG)

288 So they shot down the tariff?

Posted by: muldoon at April 03, 2025 02:22 PM (/iMjX)

289 Any word on the deputy?

Posted by: muldoon at April 03, 2025 02:22 PM (/iMjX)

290 286 278 My spouse has had a saying since college in the 90s and I agreed...if a 90 IQ male can't get a job to support his family, the country is broken. ALL policy has to be routed to making sure that person can get a job before you worry about anything else.

B/c if the 90 IQ male is working and married with kids, all the other social ills start fading away...
Posted by: Nova Local
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Yep. And you have to shut off the spigot of foreign labor being imported to fill those jobs.
Posted by: whig at April 03, 2025 02:21 PM (ctrM5)

Yup, that is a another key to the 90 IQ American male getting the job vs the 105 IQ foreigner...

Posted by: Nova Local at April 03, 2025 02:23 PM (tOcjL)

291 277 271 No more slave shoes. Make your overpriced Nike's in the US.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 03, 2025 02:04 PM (uCjyK)

Slave labor is cool, but why can’t I have my own slaves here in the U.S.? Why do I have to rent Nike’s slaves? Seems unfair.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 03, 2025 02:18 PM (l3YAf)

"They're turning kids into slaves just to make cheaper sneakers, but what's the real cost cause the sneakers don't seem that much cheaper? Why are we still paying so much for sneakers made by little slave kids? What're your overheads?" - Flight of the Conchords

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at April 03, 2025 02:23 PM (KbCG3)

292 Hmm...

I'm seeing offered mortgage rates below 6% now.

We had to get one at 7.5% a couple of years ago.

We're already in the territory of being able to probably refinance well.

That's nice to know. Will hold off for a few more months, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 03, 2025 02:23 PM (GBKbO)

293 You, too, can get a slave any time you want. All my rich friends have them. Entire household staffs of illegal immigrants who you don't have to pay minimum wage or worry about overtime rules and workers comp and payroll taxes and all of that nonsense. AND, as a bonus, they won't speak up or say anything to you, because they're scared that you'll fire them or get them deported.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 03, 2025 02:21 PM (uCjyK)

Minimum wage or not, if you’re paying them they’re not slaves.

Besides, I haven’t seen any illegals who work for less than minimum wage in a decade. You’re lucky to get drywall hung for $25 /hr now.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 03, 2025 02:23 PM (l3YAf)

294 281 (also, since when are we calling normal people "workers" or "working people"? I feel like it's creeped in to our language in the last 10-20 years. Very Sovietesque.)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 03, 2025 02:16 PM (uCjyK)

Working people is worse in my mind than Workers, despite its sovietish origins. WP has some kind of paternalistic pity in it that makes me retch.
Posted by: Oldcat

The old working class definition was those that required their hands, backs, etc. via physical labor to earn a living. If you used your mind, words, etc. then you were not working class. Got muddied in the West when industry went away and services substituted instead for menial employment.

Posted by: whig at April 03, 2025 02:23 PM (ctrM5)

295 I hate to sound like a socialist here, but the margins on sneakers are fucking insane.

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There are cheap sneakers about (i used to wear them as a kid, one pair lasted just half an hour as tie cloth sides ripped away, my Mom was so mad). But the air Jordans are luxury goods and have tons of demand that could absorb a modest price rise.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 03, 2025 02:24 PM (n7h9X)

296 Any word on the deputy?
Posted by: muldoon at April 03, 2025 02:22 PM

*We* did not shoot him. We didn't even litigate him.

Posted by: McConnell, Murkowski, Collins, and Rand at April 03, 2025 02:24 PM (a3Q+t)

297 He's simply a chronic liar. Period.

Wikipedia, Joe Scarborough
Personal Life.
In part, "Scarborough has been married three times. In 1986, Scarborough married Melanie Hinton. The couple had two sons[115] and divorced in 1999. While interviewing Robert F. Kennedy Jr. on June 21, 2005, Scarborough expressed concerns about the possibility that one of his sons may have suffered vaccine damage (see Thimerosal controversy). Scarborough said, "My son, born in 1991, has a slight form of autism called Asperger's. When I was practicing law and also when I was in Congress, parents would constantly come to me, and they would bring me videotapes of their children, and they were all around the age of my son or younger. So, something happened in 1989."[116][117]"

He loves his wives and needy children, until he doesn't.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at April 03, 2025 02:24 PM (NFX2v)

298 My spouse has had a saying since college in the 90s and I agreed...if a 90 IQ male can't get a job to support his family, the country is broken. ALL policy has to be routed to making sure that person can get a job before you worry about anything else.

B/c if the 90 IQ male is working and married with kids, all the other social ills start fading away...

It's a nice thought, but we only need 535 Congressmen.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 03, 2025 02:24 PM (xCA6C)

299 278 My spouse has had a saying since college in the 90s and I agreed...if a 90 IQ male can't get a job to support his family, the country is broken. ALL policy has to be routed to making sure that person can get a job before you worry about anything else.

B/c if the 90 IQ male is working and married with kids, all the other social ills start fading away...
Posted by: Nova Local at April 03, 2025 02:20 PM (tOcjL)

It's absolutely true. I'm not really getting in to IQ here, but all US policy needs to be aimed at "what is best for Joe Sixpack living in flyover country".

When we move away from that, we get what we have now. Which is a massive number of people who have lost all hope, are dying from diseases of despair like alcoholism, obesity and drugs, are on welfare and disability, and are not even trying to better themselves, because whats the point?

The "middle class" jobs are off-shored, the "lower class" jobs are taken by central americans, and the "upper class" jobs are being filled by Indians and Chinese people.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 03, 2025 02:25 PM (uCjyK)

300 >>Working people is worse in my mind than Workers, despite its sovietish origins. WP has some kind of paternalistic pity in it that makes me retch.
Posted by: Oldcat

Tradesmen.

Posted by: garrett at April 03, 2025 02:25 PM (AVXxY)

301 I'm seeing offered mortgage rates below 6% now.

We had to get one at 7.5% a couple of years ago.

We're already in the territory of being able to probably refinance well.

That's nice to know. Will hold off for a few more months, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 03, 2025 02:23 PM (GBKbO)

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Some of you may know who it was but some "expert" explained this as part of Trump's economic plan.

This expert thought what he was doing was exactly right for the economy.

Posted by: Seems Legit at April 03, 2025 02:25 PM (PMtkd)

302 "They're turning kids into slaves just to make cheaper sneakers, but what's the real cost cause the sneakers don't seem that much cheaper? Why are we still paying so much for sneakers made by little slave kids? What're your overheads?" - Flight of the Conchords
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at April 03, 2025 02:23 PM (KbCG3)

Lol, I loved that show.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 03, 2025 02:25 PM (l3YAf)

303 257 Daily Mail-
Chilling declassified CIA file reveals aliens committed 'revenge massacre' after UFO was shot down

https://tinyurl.com/3drw5mum
Posted by: redridinghood at April 03, 2025 02:15 PM (NpAcC)

Let me guess - some guy named Andrei Tarkovsky wrote up the original report.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 03, 2025 02:26 PM (uWKK8)

304 What sucked for John Carter is that very few people had read the books or knew what it was.

I’d already read the first book so I liked the movie for what it was. I think they did a pretty decent job based on what I recall from the book.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at April 03, 2025 02:19 PM (6ydKt)

========

Disney let Andrew Stanton, the director, craft the marketing.

He seems to have assumed that John Carter was a well-known character in popular culture. A popular culture that had moved beyond John Carter with the rise of Flash Gordon in the 30s.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 03, 2025 02:20 PM (GBKbO)
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They removed any references to "Mars" in the title because ... reasons. So it was just a boring title of a guy's name that few people ever heard of. Genius.

That was also at a time when they were desperately trying to Make Fetch Happen by pushing the bland, "who is he?" Taylor Kitsch as some kind of leading man action star.

Posted by: Elric Blade at April 03, 2025 02:26 PM (iFTx/)

305 Yup, that is a another key to the 90 IQ American male getting the job vs the 105 IQ foreigner...
Posted by: Nova Local at April 03, 2025 02:23 PM (tOcjL)

I've heard that the army is having trouble because the 90 IQ soldier can't operate the equipment.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 03, 2025 02:27 PM (n7h9X)

306 The price of eggs and groceries produced in the US has come down. American cars are becoming more affordable. But Democrats are upset they won’t have illegal aliens to cut their grass and the price of their new Mercedes is going up.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 03, 2025 02:27 PM (TkpK/)

307 My daughters first dentist was named John Carter. That always amused me.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 03, 2025 02:27 PM (uWKK8)

308 None of this tariff stuff was a surprise... everyone KNEW it was coming... so this sell off is NOT about money... but about control.
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 03, 2025 02:16 PM (QAkQ3)

I could break you, mate, in two pieces over my knees. You know it, I know it. I could buy you six times over. I could dump the stock just to burn your ass!

Posted by: Sir Larry Wildman at April 03, 2025 02:28 PM (R/m4+)

309 The "middle class" jobs are off-shored, the "lower class" jobs are taken by central americans, and the "upper class" jobs are being filled by Indians and Chinese people.

that's about the size of it

and now AI can handle a goodly percentage of the middle class "service" jobs

Posted by: Black Orchid at April 03, 2025 02:28 PM (Pv3Rg)

310 304 They removed any references to "Mars" in the title because ... reasons. So it was just a boring title of a guy's name that few people ever heard of. Genius.

That was also at a time when they were desperately trying to Make Fetch Happen by pushing the bland, "who is he?" Taylor Kitsch as some kind of leading man action star.
Posted by: Elric Blade at April 03, 2025 02:26 PM (iFTx/)

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I've never bought into the idea that putting "of Mars" at the end of the title would have materially helped the dismal box office.

But, the reason was because Mars Needs Moms bombed hard and Disney didn't want to associate, however implicitly, that with John Carter in people's minds.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 03, 2025 02:28 PM (GBKbO)

311 The Feeding Our Future CEO is scoffing at this piker. They're both Minnesotans, too. Odd that.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 03, 2025 01:56 PM (lCaJd)

Food banks are a racket. People donate random food items into a big basket at a supermarket. All scrambled together. Then the stuff is trucked to the food bank. Trucker gets paid, Then it is sorted and shelved by paid employees. Then it gets handed out to welfare queens driving BMW's. And the food bank CEO's get six-figure salaries.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 03, 2025 02:29 PM (8zz6B)

312 >>Working people is worse in my mind than Workers, despite its sovietish origins. WP has some kind of paternalistic pity in it that makes me retch.
Posted by: Oldcat

Tradesmen.
Posted by: garrett at April 03, 2025 02:25 PM (AVXxY)

I don't mind workers as a general term, the Sov. don't own it. Tradesmen to me is more the independent operators.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 03, 2025 02:29 PM (n7h9X)

313 they made a movie of Mars Needs Moms?!?!

lol

my boys loved that when they were tiny

did NOT need a film version tho

Posted by: Black Orchid at April 03, 2025 02:30 PM (Pv3Rg)

314 They also have something like an 85% market share of graphics cards because AMD can't write a stable driver to save their lives. It's a much smaller business, but it's also what paid for the R&D on the AI chips in the first place.
Posted by: Ian S. a
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Not really true anymore. Software in general and drivers have increased suckitude with each new generation.

AI itself is oversold with current tech right now and Nvidia is having some issues now with its latest generation regarding power consumption and longevity. That is apart from AI market being oversold in the first place.

In fact, Nvidia drivers, themselves, do not play particularly well in Linux and most people in Linux world use AMD because Nvidia proprietary drivers suck in that OS.

Just like corporate types that felt they could not go wrong with Intel back in the day, same goes for Nvidia and the launch of their 5000's game card series has not gone particularly well.

Nvidia doesn't really care right now because they are focusing on AI Blackwell sales for their projected profit share but that in turn depends on AI adoption at escalating levels of expenditures by megacorps.

Posted by: whig at April 03, 2025 02:30 PM (ctrM5)

315 Besides, the latino kids lack the finger dexterity of Asian kids to do the fine stitching of swooshes. These “El Nikes” look pretty janky.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 03, 2025 02:30 PM (l3YAf)

316 Minimum wage or not, if you’re paying them they’re not slaves.

Besides, I haven’t seen any illegals who work for less than minimum wage in a decade. You’re lucky to get drywall hung for $25 /hr now.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 03, 2025 02:23 PM (l3YAf)

It's absolutely rampant for household staff. At least in NYC / the Hamptons.

In Central America, its customary to be paid by the day, not by the hour for whatever reason I've never really looked in to.

So a lot of rich upper west side types will hire their help at, say, $500 a week in cash. Maybe it starts off with them only "working" for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week. That's $12.50 an hour, which is already below the minimum wage.

Then, you need them to show up early sometimes. Or stay late sometimes, etc. And no one is paying overtime, or giving the mandated breaks, or following any of the NY Labor laws.

Anyways, I've had friends who have had to pay out six figure settlements / jury verdicts to nannies / cooks / housekeepers / gardeners etc.

And of course, they call me since I'm a lawyer, and complain about how unfair it all is.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 03, 2025 02:30 PM (uCjyK)

317 I guess there is someone for everybody but come on, ladies, wtf is wrong with you? Scarborough looks like that kid with the banjo in Deliverance.

I don't get how Mika can look at his face during sex (she must be mounting him from behind).
Posted by: Seems Legit at April 03, 2025 01:56 PM (PMtkd)

Hence "dime-slot hillbilly eyes".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 03, 2025 02:30 PM (8zz6B)

318 That was also at a time when they were desperately trying to Make Fetch Happen by pushing the bland, "who is he?" Taylor Kitsch as some kind of leading man action star.

Kitsch was great in the Friday Night Lights TV series, and a few other Peter Berg projects. (Berg, like Joss Whedon, has the same cast in everything he does). He hasn't done well outside of that ecosystem though.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 03, 2025 02:31 PM (2ocoG)

319 90 IQ people are *far* less dangerous than 115 IQ people.

115 IQ people are the engine of Communism. Because they all think believing in it makes them geniuses.

Posted by: ... at April 03, 2025 02:31 PM (XZ9Wx)

320 "I was such a nutter and so stabby they gave me a wide berth."

Posted by: Micarro Enfuego at April 03, 2025 02:31 PM (dzZCL)

321 now AI can handle a goodly percentage of the middle class "service" jobs
Posted by: Black Orchid

Nursing doesn't fit that scenario though, thankfully.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 03, 2025 02:31 PM (Np2WL)

322 They removed any references to "Mars" in the title because ... reasons. So it was just a boring title of a guy's name that few people ever heard of. Genius.

That was also at a time when they were desperately trying to Make Fetch Happen by pushing the bland, "who is he?" Taylor Kitsch as some kind of leading man action star.
Posted by: Elric Blade at April 03, 2025 02:26 PM (iFTx/)

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I've never bought into the idea that putting "of Mars" at the end of the title would have materially helped the dismal box office.

But, the reason was because Mars Needs Moms bombed hard and Disney didn't want to associate, however implicitly, that with John Carter in people's minds.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 03, 2025 02:28 PM (GBKbO)
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The movie may still have bombed, but "John Carter of Mars" is a better and more interesting title than "John Carter." Especially given that it's a big-budget sci-fi from obscure source material that needed every ounce of "this is a big sci-fi" buzz it could get.

Posted by: Elric Blade at April 03, 2025 02:31 PM (iFTx/)

323 I've never bought into the idea that putting "of Mars" at the end of the title would have materially helped the dismal box office.

But, the reason was because Mars Needs Moms bombed hard and Disney didn't want to associate, however implicitly, that with John Carter in people's minds.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 03, 2025 02:28 PM (GBKbO)

They could probably used the name of whatever city or kingdom he married into the rulership of after he went there. I read several of these on one of those Kindle 100 book packs for 5 bucks. Not bad stuff,

Posted by: Oldcat at April 03, 2025 02:32 PM (n7h9X)

324 322 The movie may still have bombed, but "John Carter of Mars" is a better and more interesting title than "John Carter." Especially given that it's a big-budget sci-fi from obscure source material that needed every ounce of "this is a big sci-fi" buzz it could get.
Posted by: Elric Blade at April 03, 2025 02:31 PM (iFTx/)

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Sure thing. It's a better title.

But Disney sold that movie so very, very badly. And the muted critical reaction didn't help things.

And then there was me constantly going, "Why aren't you people going to the theater?! This movie is awesome! I need a second one! Go now!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 03, 2025 02:32 PM (GBKbO)

325 NOOD Doge strikes VA Website

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 03, 2025 02:33 PM (VNX3d)

326 Slave labor is cool, but why can’t I have my own slaves here in the U.S.? Why do I have to rent Nike’s slaves? Seems unfair.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 03, 2025 02:18 PM (l3YAf)

Esse.... we need to talk...
Posted by: Mexican Cartel

I'll take two senoritas & one kick ass abuela cook.
Muchas gracias.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 03, 2025 02:33 PM (8HZkO)

327 nood

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 03, 2025 02:33 PM (uCjyK)

328 Food banks are a racket. People donate random food items into a big basket at a supermarket. All scrambled together. Then the stuff is trucked to the food bank. Trucker gets paid, Then it is sorted and shelved by paid employees. Then it gets handed out to welfare queens driving BMW's. And the food bank CEO's get six-figure salaries.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 03, 2025 02:29 PM (8zz6B)

Correct.

Posted by: The Truth at April 03, 2025 02:33 PM (R/m4+)

329 90 IQ people are *far* less dangerous than 115 IQ people.

115 IQ people are the engine of Communism. Because they all think believing in it makes them geniuses.
Posted by: ... at April 03, 2025 02:31 PM (XZ9Wx)

Nah, the dangerous ones at any IQ are those who think they are smarter than they are and don't listen.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 03, 2025 02:33 PM (n7h9X)

330 I liked John Carter too.

Never read the books. I think I will.

Posted by: Seems Legit at April 03, 2025 02:33 PM (PMtkd)

331 > (also, since when are we calling normal people "workers" or "working people"? I feel like it's creeped in to our language in the last 10-20 years. Very Sovietesque.)

Want to hear something really Sovietesque and dehumanizing? The left started calling black and brown people "black bodies" and "brown bodies" a couple of decades ago. That's been seeping out into general activist language and is becoming more mainstream.

Posted by: Tim Walz at April 03, 2025 02:34 PM (lIio7)

332 >> AI itself is oversold with current tech right now and Nvidia is having some issues now with its latest generation regarding power consumption and longevity.

The real play, and something I bough into more today are AI applications in the medical field. Some of the things they are doing hold out a lot of promise and I believe that’s where one of the main benefits will be derived. I’ve talked to a few medical researchers and scientists who are saying this capability has the potential to really be a game changer. It gets what used to be years of research and testing into compressed timeframes and helps identify new solutions that may have been missed in the past.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 03, 2025 02:34 PM (TkpK/)

333 Food banks are a racket. People donate random food items into a big basket at a supermarket. All scrambled together. Then the stuff is trucked to the food bank. Trucker gets paid, Then it is sorted and shelved by paid employees. Then it gets handed out to welfare queens driving BMW's. And the food bank CEO's get six-figure salaries.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 03, 2025 02:29 PM (8zz6B)

Correct.
Posted by: The Truth at April 03, 2025 02:33 PM (R/m4+)

90 percent of everything in government is a racket.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 03, 2025 02:34 PM (n7h9X)

334 That was me in 6th-7th grade.
Posted by: garrett at April 03, 2025 02:19 PM (AVXxY)
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Pretty sure you could clog him into a five day recovery period.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 03, 2025 02:35 PM (pLcBq)

335 and now AI can handle a goodly percentage of the middle class "service" jobs
Posted by: Black Orchid

Dunno about that. AI is basically a statistical prediction machine solving puzzles to them using 'tokens' and probability theories to fill in the blanks.

To use it successfully, you have to have underlying knowledge of the subject in the first place (similar to math/calculators back in the day) so you can tell when and where the AI gives you fake shit from hallucinations. If you are not knowledgeable in the first place, it gives you pseudo competence but not necessarily accuracy.

It is a productivity aid but not a replacement for educated humans at this stage.

Posted by: whig at April 03, 2025 02:35 PM (ctrM5)

336 Want to hear something really Sovietesque and dehumanizing? The left started calling black and brown people "black bodies" and "brown bodies" a couple of decades ago. That's been seeping out into general activist language and is becoming more mainstream.
Posted by: Tim Walz at April 03, 2025 02:34 PM (lIio7)

The real corkers are what they are calling women these days. Birthing persons, feh

I used to have a T Shirt from a restaurant that referred to the waitstaff as Waitron Units as a joke.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 03, 2025 02:37 PM (n7h9X)

337 The real play, and something I bough into more today are AI applications in the medical field. Some of the things they are doing hold out a lot of promise and I believe that’s where one of the main benefits will be derived. I’ve talked to a few medical researchers and scientists who are saying this capability has the potential to really be a game changer. It gets what used to be years of research and testing into compressed timeframes and helps identify new solutions that may have been missed in the past.
Posted by: Marcus T
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Yes, if we consider it expert systems rather than AI and have it supervised by knowledgeable people. If you try to cut out the knowledgeable people and substitute coolie tech labor, things can go very wrong in a hurry with a system.

People in the field of artificial intelligence now have the new monicker of AGI (artificial general intelligence) to distinguish it from AI (which is really expert systems relying on probability theory to fill in the blanks).

Posted by: whig at April 03, 2025 02:39 PM (ctrM5)

338 They removed any references to "Mars" in the title because ... reasons. So it was just a boring title of a guy's name that few people ever heard of. Genius.

A couple of years prior, they made a bad movie called Mars Needs Moms. It failed, but it couldn't have been lack of quality that did it. No. It was those darn Martians. They were going to show those Martians a thing or two.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 03, 2025 02:40 PM (WPL6O)

339 It is a productivity aid but not a replacement for educated humans at this stage.
Posted by: whig at April 03, 2025 02:35 PM (ctrM5)

We did a program that used image processing and AI to detect contraband at the border. Separating Car bits from people and non car stuff was tricky, but the AI was limited to taking analyzed info from the image processing and determining a "score" for each item detected.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 03, 2025 02:41 PM (n7h9X)

340 I have a young acquaintance who is in hysterics over the “gutting” her words, of NIOSH. Anyone have the real story on that department’s status?

Posted by: Jen the original at April 03, 2025 02:41 PM (6on/T)

341 115 IQ people are the engine of Communism. Because they all think believing in it makes them geniuses.

That's the entire "midwit" meme. People that are just smart enough to think they're geniuses, but not smart enough to know they aren't.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 03, 2025 02:42 PM (2ocoG)

342 115 IQ people are the engine of Communism. Because they all think believing in it makes them geniuses.

That's the entire "midwit" meme. People that are just smart enough to think they're geniuses, but not smart enough to know they aren't.
Posted by: Ian S. at April 03, 2025 02:42 PM (2ocoG)

Its a personality type and not a IQ level. Its why there is a linguistic difference between intelligence and wisdom.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 03, 2025 02:45 PM (n7h9X)

343 said five aliens climbed out of their wrecked craft, combined themselves into one creature, exploded in a burst of intense energy, and turned 23 soldiers into solid rock.

Playing Dire Straits on the PA.

Posted by: John McCain at April 03, 2025 02:46 PM (PMJuY)

344 (also, since when are we calling normal people "workers" or "working people"? I feel like it's creeped in to our language in the last 10-20 years. Very Sovietesque.)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

It's to distinguish them from the idle rich - like everyone in Congress.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at April 03, 2025 02:48 PM (hB7mE)

345 I have a young acquaintance who is in hysterics over the “gutting” her words, of NIOSH. Anyone have the real story on that department’s status?
Posted by: Jen the original at April 03, 2025 02:41 PM (6on/T)

A new Administration for a Healthy America (AHA) will consolidate the OASH, HRSA, SAMHSA, ATSDR, and NIOSH, so as to more efficiently coordinate chronic care and disease prevention programs and harmonize health resources to low-income Americans. Divisions of AHA include Primary Care, Maternal and Child Health, Mental Health, Environmental Health, HIV/AIDS, and Workforce, with support of the U.S. Surgeon General and Policy team.

https://www.hhs.gov/press-room/
hhs-restructuring-doge-fact-sheet.html

Posted by: Oldcat at April 03, 2025 02:49 PM (n7h9X)

346 here are cheap sneakers about (i used to wear them as a kid, one pair lasted just half an hour as tie cloth sides ripped away, my Mom was so mad). But the air Jordans are luxury goods and have tons of demand that could absorb a modest price rise.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 03, 2025 02:24 PM (n7h9X)

1959 high top Keds for the win!!

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyOLDguy at April 03, 2025 02:50 PM (dgRL6)

347 stovepipes r us. the way multiple bureaucrats can do a job (and all get paid) and pass the buck to the other pipes when cornered.

Posted by: gov'theretohelp at April 03, 2025 03:01 PM (PfnFb)

348 Scarborough sounds a lot like Joe Biden. Kind of looks like him, too.

Posted by: Pudinhead at April 03, 2025 03:21 PM (Hpgos)

349 I pre-pardoned Scarborough’s idiotic takes!

Posted by: President Autopen at April 03, 2025 03:37 PM (gRiue)

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