Mid-Morning Art Thread

Twilight in the Cedars at Darien, Connecticut
John Frederick Kensett

Posted by: CBD at 09:30 AM

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1 trees

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 03, 2025 09:30 AM (gbOdA)

2 Looks like a controlled burn.

Posted by: Tonypete at April 03, 2025 09:30 AM (cYBz/)

3 Fire!!!

Posted by: vmom deport deport deporte at April 03, 2025 09:31 AM (Wx316)

4 Looks like a controlled burn.
Posted by: Tonypete at April 03, 2025 09:30 AM (cYBz/)

Sniper dropped a cigarette.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 03, 2025 09:31 AM (ExV1e)

5 Gloomy, needs to be hung in a sunlit room!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar - THIS Year in Corsicana - again at April 03, 2025 09:31 AM (hOUT3)

6 Oh, very nice. Thank you, CBD.

Posted by: Bulg at April 03, 2025 09:31 AM (77rzZ)

7 The MET
Title: Twilight in the Cedars at Darien, Connecticut

Artist: John Frederick Kensett (American, Cheshire, Connecticut 1816–1872 New York)

Date: 1872

Culture: American

Medium: Oil on canvas

Dimensions: 28 1/2 x 41 in. (72.4 x 104.1cm)

6 x 9

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 03, 2025 09:32 AM (gbOdA)

8 Gloomy, needs to be hung in a sunlit room!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar

Don't worry!

Posted by: The Paolo at April 03, 2025 09:32 AM (cYBz/)

9 Aliens are landing in the forest.
Like this one , would hang.
Thx CBD

Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 03, 2025 09:32 AM (q1Uty)

10 That looks like a fire I totally didn't set. Totally.

And uh...how much is your property worth right now? Real shame its all going to burn....muahahahaha

I mean really, really too bad.

Posted by: Some CA firebug at April 03, 2025 09:33 AM (t0Rmr)

11 Dark and foreboding.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 03, 2025 09:33 AM (Q4IgG)

12 You're scared? I have to walk out of there alone!

Posted by: Count de Monet, Home of the Fightin' Texas Live Oaks at April 03, 2025 09:33 AM (Aqu9a)

13 Looks like a controlled burn.
Posted by: Tonypete
___________

I thought it was the sun on a body of water behind the trees, but that wouldn't really match with level of sunlight above the trees.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at April 03, 2025 09:34 AM (Dm8we)

14 Looks quite nice. Very pleasant with a hint of menace.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 03, 2025 09:34 AM (WPL6O)

15 Fire , fire, burning bright
Controlled burns set the brush alight

Posted by: Kindltot at April 03, 2025 09:35 AM (D7oie)

16 If you took a photo of the woods like that with your phone you wouldn't think it captured what you saw and the beauty you felt. . It's a blob of dark green . Painting it doesn't change that fact. I respect the skill to reproduce it but it's just not the type of subject I think needs to be painted. Would not hang.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 03, 2025 09:36 AM (VofaG)

17 Pretty.

Now get off that billionaire's lawn - this is private property!!

Posted by: Lizzy at April 03, 2025 09:37 AM (Cki93)

18 OK, but needs a deer, marmot, or maybe a dog. At least this was painted before Fauci and his minions unleashed Lyme Disease on the world from the gummint facility at Plum Island. They killed Tom Seaver!

Posted by: Nutmeg Knut at April 03, 2025 09:37 AM (G5+As)

19 I don't see Smokey Bear in this one.

Posted by: dantesed at April 03, 2025 09:37 AM (Oy/m2)

20 Fire!

DUCK!

Posted by: nurse ratched at April 03, 2025 09:37 AM (WpUtP)

21 Dimensions: 28 1/2 x 41 in. (72.4 x 104.1cm)

6 x 9
Posted by: rhennigantx at April 03, 2025 09:32 AM (gbOdA

What's the 6 x 9 ?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 03, 2025 09:38 AM (VofaG)

22 Sniper at 3 o'clock

Squirrel at 1,3,5,6,8, and 9 o'clock

Bigfoot at 11 o'clock

Posted by: 18-1 at April 03, 2025 09:38 AM (t0Rmr)

23 It looks boggy back there beyond the trees.

Posted by: huerfano at April 03, 2025 09:39 AM (n2swS)

24 Duck...Duck...Fire Elemental

Posted by: 18-1 at April 03, 2025 09:40 AM (t0Rmr)

25 Twilight in the Cedars at Darien, Connecticut
John Frederick Kensett

You can call it anything you want, but I'm calling the fire department before it gets out of hand.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 03, 2025 09:40 AM (FCbAQ)

26 What's the 6 x 9 ?
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 03, 2025 09:38 AM (VofaG)

I was think about the proportions consider video.

4:3 is old style video
16:9 is 1080

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 03, 2025 09:41 AM (gbOdA)

27 2 Looks like a controlled burn.
Posted by: Tonypete

It looks like Mark Dice is going to talk about Bohemian Grove again...

Posted by: Moron Analyst at April 03, 2025 09:41 AM (JCZqz)

28 So from what I'm reading on the interwebs, that is supposed to be the twilight sun giving the red below and blue above. If so, there's no way the sun, parked directly behind those trees, would do that. The sky doesn't look nearly enough twilightly yet to match with the red below.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at April 03, 2025 09:42 AM (Dm8we)

29 Twilight in the Cedars at Darien, Connecticut

Or "Durwood," Connecticut, if you're Endora.

Posted by: Bulg at April 03, 2025 09:42 AM (77rzZ)

30

You think you're scared?

I have to walk back alone!

Posted by: Dirty Frank at April 03, 2025 09:43 AM (01OnG)

31 Looks like a grove of trees with a dirt road behind it that's lit up by the setting sun.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 03, 2025 09:43 AM (VofaG)

32 Darien, Connecticut > durian fruit

Posted by: Moron Math at April 03, 2025 09:43 AM (JCZqz)

33 What's the 6 x 9 ?
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 03, 2025 09:38 AM (VofaG)

Jensen car stereo speakers, back in the day.

Posted by: Count de Monet, Home of the Fightin' Texas Live Oaks at April 03, 2025 09:43 AM (Aqu9a)

34 Fun fact: "Twilight" can also refer to dawn, not just evening.

Posted by: Bulg at April 03, 2025 09:44 AM (77rzZ)

35 Would not frolic in those woods

Posted by: The frolicking gay guys from the painting a few weeks ago at April 03, 2025 09:44 AM (Y1sOo)

36 I kinda like the picture itself, but something seems off.
If the sun is low enough to cast that red tint into the clouds (well done btw) then it wouldn't be able to penetrate the forest canopy and light up that space the picture focuses on.
I like it, but wouldn't hang.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 03, 2025 09:44 AM (FCbAQ)

37 So from what I'm reading on the interwebs, that is supposed to be the twilight sun giving the red below and blue above. If so, there's no way the sun, parked directly behind those trees, would do that. The sky doesn't look nearly enough twilightly yet to match with the red below.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at April 03, 2025 09:42 AM (Dm8we)

It's called artistic license.

Posted by: John Frederick Kensett at April 03, 2025 09:45 AM (Aqu9a)

38 Darien? Looks a little different now.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 03, 2025 09:45 AM (9YT0G)

39 By west coast standards, those cedar trees are pitiful.

Looks like a ten year regrowth on a clear cut.

Posted by: nurse ratched at April 03, 2025 09:46 AM (q4Gku)

40 Darien is a coastal town in Fairfield County, Connecticut, United States. With a population of 21,499 and a land area of just under 13 square miles, it is the smallest town on Connecticut's Gold Coast.

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 03, 2025 09:46 AM (gbOdA)

41 Twilight? It looks more like the Wilderness campaign.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 03, 2025 09:46 AM (xCA6C)

42 Darien? Looks a little different now.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 03, 2025 09:45 AM (9YT0G)

Just a bit.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 03, 2025 09:46 AM (L5An7)

43 Too many snipers to count.

Posted by: TalkyTalk at April 03, 2025 09:47 AM (9INg6)

44 You can see through the thicket of trees, which means they are less dense than Rachel Zegler's back hair. So, that's a plus.

Posted by: Hirsute and Hisute at April 03, 2025 09:47 AM (G5+As)

45 Twilight can be both just after sun setting or just before the sun rising as I understand it.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 03, 2025 09:47 AM (VofaG)

46 Owlkitty stars in “Twilight”

https://tinyurl.com/yfz4bdvj

Posted by: nurse ratched at April 03, 2025 09:48 AM (q4Gku)

47 Twilight can be both just after sun setting or just before the sun rising as I understand it.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth

Yes, there is morning twilight and evening twilight.

Posted by: Bulg at April 03, 2025 09:49 AM (77rzZ)

48 Yes, there is morning twilight and evening twilight.
Posted by: Bulg at April 03, 2025 09:49 AM (77rzZ)

One is for the vampires, the other is for the werewolves.
They don't get along, you see.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 03, 2025 09:50 AM (FCbAQ)

49

Worked freelance at an agency up there a number of years back and schlepped up there and back on Metro North.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 03, 2025 09:50 AM (x0n13)

50 "Keep moving, daylight visitors; Darien is a Democrat neighborhood"

Posted by: gKWVE at April 03, 2025 09:51 AM (08DAr)

51 The Cedars of Lebanon would have been nice, but I'll take the Cedars of Darien. Very nice. Would hang.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 03, 2025 09:51 AM (FAGAJ)

52 I like these kinds of gentle landscapes. Kensett captured the glory of nature but in soft, non-dramatic ways. Even sunlight is used at its quieter, less intrusive stage where the boles of the trees and their dark foliage are limned against the deep red gold of sunset. It is peaceful, relaxing, time to go home at the end of the day and enjoy the night.

Hugely effective and pleasant. Kensett was a later member of the Hudson River School and it shows. I wonder if he was influenced by the quiet country scenes of Constable. They have that feel.

As an aside, Kensett did some beach scenes that made me remember those of the area where I grew up. Same terrain and feel.

Posted by: JTB at April 03, 2025 09:51 AM (yTvNw)

53 45 Twilight can be both just after sun setting or just before the sun rising as I understand it.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 03, 2025 09:47 AM (VofaG)

Magic hour for cinematographers.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 03, 2025 09:51 AM (x0n13)

54 Never understood the extra "c" in Connecticut.

Posted by: TalkyTalk at April 03, 2025 09:51 AM (9INg6)

55 Nice allegory for what's going to happen in this country -- beautiful landscape, but there's a fire brewing (and there's probably a bear in the woods) that will soon consume the whole forest in flames. God willing, we're gearing up.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 03, 2025 09:52 AM (qwx/I)

56 Those are some sexy young cedars I must say...I'll be in my grove.

Posted by: Treebeard at April 03, 2025 09:52 AM (t0Rmr)

57 Magic hour for cinematographers.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 03, 2025 09:51 AM (x0n13)

Morning twilight is almost worth getting up early to see...

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar - THIS Year in Corsicana - again at April 03, 2025 09:52 AM (hOUT3)

58 I dated a girl in Danbury or actually Ridgefield,CT. My only contact with that state as I traveled back and forth from the Hudson Valley area.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 03, 2025 09:52 AM (VofaG)

59 54 Never understood the extra "c" in Connecticut.
Posted by: TalkyTalk at April 03, 2025 09:51 AM (9INg6)

Scene from Holiday Inn where the bartender asks "Where is Connect - e - cut?"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 03, 2025 09:53 AM (x0n13)

60 Never understood the extra "c" in Connecticut.
Posted by: TalkyTalk

You can't "cut" something until you "connect" it first.

Posted by: Bulg at April 03, 2025 09:53 AM (77rzZ)

61 Magic hour for cinematographers.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 03, 2025 09:51 AM

And them damned French and Indians!

Posted by: Robert Rogers at April 03, 2025 09:53 AM (FAGAJ)

62 Fascinating use of light

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 03, 2025 09:53 AM (RIvkX)

63 Darien, Connecticut. Home of the Fightin' Cedars.

Posted by: John Frederick Kensett at April 03, 2025 09:54 AM (Aqu9a)

64 56 Those are some sexy young cedars I must say...I'll be in my grove.
Posted by: Treebeard

I heard he follows several creators on Only Firs.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at April 03, 2025 09:54 AM (JCZqz)

65 Bob Ross?! Really, it's one of many lovely landscapes by John Frederick Kensett. Thanks.

>Luminous Landscapes of John Frederick Kensett ...
YouTube, David Dunlop and SimmonsArt, Sep 11, 2023

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at April 03, 2025 09:54 AM (NFX2v)

66 I c

Posted by: TalkyTalk at April 03, 2025 09:54 AM (9INg6)

67 61 Magic hour for cinematographers.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 03, 2025 09:51 AM

And them damned French and Indians!
Posted by: Robert Rogers

Stand to!

Posted by: Military Moron at April 03, 2025 09:55 AM (JCZqz)

68 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 03, 2025 09:55 AM (Zz0t1)

69 I see unrest.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 03, 2025 09:55 AM (Zz0t1)

70 Worked freelance at an agency up there a number of years back and schlepped up there and back on Metro North.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton

I lived within spitting distance of the Spuyten Duyvil Metro North station in Riverdale. Your train probably rolled over the pennies and nickels my son and I put on the tracks.

Posted by: Hardened Criminal at April 03, 2025 09:55 AM (G5+As)

71 Overheard in the woods one day:

Cedar trees?

Of course I can cedar trees, I'm not blind! What I want to know is what kind of trees they are.

Yew don't know?

Fir what i't's worth, no, not really.

Well THAT'S a beech

Are you telling me or aspen me?

Ha Ha! The oak's on you.. MR Cedars!

Posted by: muldoon at April 03, 2025 09:56 AM (/iMjX)

72
"We're not as bad as Rhode Island."

Posted by: State motto at April 03, 2025 09:56 AM (dg+HA)

73 Connecticut is one of only four states that I've never been to. Since visiting all 50 is on my bucket list, I'll have to get up there at some point. Since two of the other three -- Rhode Island and Vermont -- are also in New England, I can probably knock those off as well.

Posted by: Bulg at April 03, 2025 09:57 AM (77rzZ)

74 Very nice. It actually looks like a photo.

That might actually look good in my bright yellow computer room.

Posted by: Stateless...81% - mental state clawing up from 10% at April 03, 2025 09:57 AM (jvJvP)

75
*two thumbs-up*

Posted by: Zombie Bob Ross at April 03, 2025 09:57 AM (EFZgU)

76 That looks like a five-alarm twilight. Have the animals already fled?

Posted by: t-bird at April 03, 2025 09:58 AM (ws6WZ)

77 Some parts edible.

Posted by: Ewell Gibbons at April 03, 2025 09:58 AM (dg+HA)

78 100 comment rule. Also, douche rule. Also, silly goose rule. Also, unserious person rule. [TJM]

Posted by: Sid at April 03, 2025 09:59 AM (8NH0Z)

79 What's the point of all these cedars?

Posted by: Bulg at April 03, 2025 09:59 AM (77rzZ)

80 Some parts are edible.

Posted by: Ewell Gibbons at April 03, 2025 09:59 AM (dg+HA)

81 Dad really hated me when I pointed out that all of his painting's focii was the vee at the bottom.

Posted by: TalkyTalk at April 03, 2025 09:59 AM (9INg6)

82 I hope you guys leave the tree puns out of this thread.

Posted by: dantesed at April 03, 2025 10:00 AM (Oy/m2)

83 What's the point of all these cedars?
Posted by: Bulg at April 03, 2025 09:59 AM

The top.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 03, 2025 10:00 AM (I955L)

84 Posted by: muldoon at April 03, 2025 09:56 AM (/iMjX)

Birch, Please

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 03, 2025 10:00 AM (VofaG)

85
What's the 6 x 9 ?
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 03, 2025 09:38 AM (VofaG)

A car speaker popular in the 80's.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 03, 2025 10:00 AM (Zz0t1)

86 Posted by: Sid at April 03, 2025 09:59 AM (8NH0Z)

You DICK!!!!

Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at April 03, 2025 10:01 AM (Zz0t1)

87 I see unrest.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 03, 2025 09:55 AM (Zz0t1)

Maples and Oaks are one forest over.
These are Cedars, and all get along.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 03, 2025 10:01 AM (FCbAQ)

88 The Nutmeg State
The Land of Steady Habits
"He Who Transplants Still Sustains"

Would fit inside Texas 48.5 times.

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 03, 2025 10:01 AM (Aqu9a)

89 IBM had a big presence in Darien at one time.

Posted by: Eromero at April 03, 2025 10:01 AM (p4vtc)

90 IBM had a big presence in Darien at one time.
Posted by: Eromero at April 03, 2025 10:01 AM (p4vtc)

IBM covered most of the Hudson Valley.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 03, 2025 10:02 AM (VofaG)

91 So eventually the sun is going to pass over the cedars.

Posted by: Bulg at April 03, 2025 10:03 AM (77rzZ)

92 It's called artistic license.
Posted by: John Frederick Kensett
_________

I didn't know these 19th century landscape painters engaged in that. I thought they sat around cogitating on a spot for days so that it would give them exactly what they wanted naturally.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at April 03, 2025 10:03 AM (Dm8we)

93 Yes, there is morning twilight and evening twilight.
Posted by: Bulg at

One is for the vampires, the other is for the werewolves.
They don't get along, you see.
Posted by: OneEyedJack

**********

And twee-light is for the faeries!

Posted by: muldoon at April 03, 2025 10:03 AM (/iMjX)

94 I see some good tree farm management going on there.

Posted by: fd at April 03, 2025 10:03 AM (vFG9F)

95
IBM covered most of the Hudson Valley.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 03, 2025 10:02 AM (VofaG)

Worked in a facility that was once an IBM building. INCREDIBLY boring, grid patterned offices painted grey with no windows.

Corporate prison-ish.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 03, 2025 10:04 AM (Zz0t1)

96 100 comment rule. [CBD]

Posted by: Ripley at April 03, 2025 10:04 AM (GUOwU)

97 Posted by: Bulg at April 03, 2025 10:03 AM (77rzZ)

********

Subtle, but effective.

Posted by: muldoon at April 03, 2025 10:05 AM (/iMjX)

98 Clearly they're not dogwood trees. You can tell by the bark.

Posted by: Oh, no...tree puns! at April 03, 2025 10:05 AM (dg+HA)

99 "Those are some sexy young cedars I must say...I'll be in my grove.
Posted by: Treebeard

I heard he follows several creators on Only Firs.
Posted by: Moron Analyst"

The good stuff is on PineHub.

Posted by: fd at April 03, 2025 10:05 AM (vFG9F)

100 Corporate prison-ish.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 03, 2025 10:04 AM (Zz0t1)

That's what the buildings looked like to me from the outside too.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 03, 2025 10:05 AM (VofaG)

101 “ Wherever I have moved with all the Israelites, did I ever say to any of their rulers whom I commanded to shepherd my people Israel, “Why have you not built me a house of cedar?”’

2 Samuel 7:7

Posted by: Marcus T at April 03, 2025 10:05 AM (3UP5d)

102 Tariffs. When you've lost Thomas Sowell:

https://tinyurl.com/yaw6mhaf

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 03, 2025 10:05 AM (IMKWe)

103 Red Cedar can live 100 to 300 years. Many of the trees in the painting could still be alive, if they haven't been harvested to create a cedar closet for Barack Obama, Lindsey Graham, or Cory Booker.

Posted by: Cedar Facts and Foibles at April 03, 2025 10:06 AM (G5+As)

104 CBD,
Thanks for choosing today's art. I just ordered a couple of Kindle books (affordable and adjustable) of his paintings. The ones I saw of Kensett's Wiki page are delightful.

Posted by: JTB at April 03, 2025 10:06 AM (yTvNw)

105 I'd like our resident organic tree farmer's opinion.

Posted by: Ben Had at April 03, 2025 10:06 AM (XNkRi)

106 What I'm not hearing is ANY explanation why the US should pay other countries tariffs but they be exempt from any of ours. Not one word.

These other countries should be asking themselves, we're tariffing the crap out of the US *AND* we're paying high income, VAT, and sales taxes?!

Posted by: t-bird at April 03, 2025 10:07 AM (633JL)

107 Hey Ben Had, I'm a tree farmer now too as of last week!

Posted by: fd at April 03, 2025 10:07 AM (vFG9F)

108 Yahoo finance got overwhelmed this morning.
Wonder why?

Posted by: From about That Time at April 03, 2025 10:07 AM (n4GiU)

109 Hearing lots of had-wringing and panic from foreign leaders and experts on the tariffs. What I'm not hearing is ANY explanation why the US should pay other countries tariffs but they be exempt from any of ours. Not one word.
Posted by: Ripley at April 03, 2025 10:04 AM (GUOwU)

"Because the US should pay for all the evil it's created around the world as reparations for slavery and it's evil freedoms and guns."

-- - - - - Karen McWinebox

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 03, 2025 10:07 AM (Zz0t1)

110 Darned if that doesn.t resemble a fire rather than a sunset. Pretty unsettling picture, really.

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at April 03, 2025 10:07 AM (hKoQL)

111 So eventually the sun is going to pass over the cedars.
Posted by: Bulg at April 03, 2025 10:03 AM (77rzZ)

Elegant!

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 03, 2025 10:08 AM (Aqu9a)

112 Tariffs. When you've lost Thomas Sowell:

https://tinyurl.com/yaw6mhaf
Posted by: Biden's Dog

I get "404 not found."

Posted by: Bulg at April 03, 2025 10:08 AM (77rzZ)

113 I'd like to start an inorganic tree farm. Also, it's my dream to irresponsibly raise beef.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 03, 2025 10:08 AM (Zz0t1)

114 https://youtu.be/cDQmx7j7-Qo

Interim report on North Sea collision.

Patchy fog with limited visibility. Neither vessel had a lookout on the bridge. Questions raised about whether the area used by the tanker - under orders - for anchorage should be used in that way AND questions about merchant vessel workloads and fatigue possibly playing a role.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 03, 2025 10:09 AM (ExV1e)

115 73 Connecticut is one of only four states that I've never been to. Since visiting all 50 is on my bucket list, I'll have to get up there at some point. Since two of the other three -- Rhode Island and Vermont -- are also in New England, I can probably knock those off as well.

Grew up on the Connecticut coast in the late 50's and 60's. Used to be nice but now just another blue shithole. Glad I left for sunnier (and redder) climes.

Posted by: Mike B at April 03, 2025 10:09 AM (pwkbO)

116 I admire Sowell greatly but Trump has proven critics of various actions wrong time and again and again and again and again.

Posted by: ... at April 03, 2025 10:10 AM (XZ9Wx)

117 I'd like to start an inorganic tree farm.
Posted by: Sponge

Hey, folks gotta get their Festivus poles from somewhere.

Posted by: Bulg at April 03, 2025 10:10 AM (77rzZ)

118 Tariffs can be harmful if you just apply them to protect your products from the market place. Tariffs can also be useful to fight against countries who use them as described above.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 03, 2025 10:11 AM (VofaG)

119 I get "404 not found."

Posted by: Bulg at April 03, 2025 10:08 AM (77rzZ)
-

I copied the link which you pasted in your comment. Works.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 03, 2025 10:11 AM (IMKWe)

120 I heard he follows several creators on Only Firs.
Posted by: Moron Analyst"

The good stuff is on PineHub.
Posted by: fd at April 03, 2025 10:05 AM

The best dating app for trees?

Timber.

Posted by: Groan at April 03, 2025 10:11 AM (dg+HA)

121 Alternate title:

"Bob Ross' Evil Twin Brother Wants All Those Happy, Little Trees To Burn! To BURN!!! BURN!!! BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!"

Posted by: naturalfake at April 03, 2025 10:11 AM (iJfKG)

122 >>> 113 I'd like to start an inorganic tree farm. Also, it's my dream to irresponsibly raise beef.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 03, 2025 10:08 AM (Zz0t1)

organic = regulatory capture
responsible = vaxxed and boosted

Sounds good to me...

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 03, 2025 10:11 AM (Vqx30)

123 Nicely done but I also think it looks like a fire coming... A metaphor for Tariffgate ?

Posted by: It's me donna at April 03, 2025 10:12 AM (VE6XX)

124 Looks like the opening napalm scene in Apocalypse Now.

"This is the end..."

Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at April 03, 2025 10:12 AM (eb5mD)

125 I'd like to start an inorganic tree farm.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 03, 2025 10:08 AM

Petrified forest?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 03, 2025 10:12 AM (I955L)

126 From the "Joys of cancer treatment and a depleted immune system" department:

The First Lady now has an ecoli infection which comes with digestive discomfort and insanely high fever. We'll see if an ER trip is in the cards for today.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 03, 2025 10:12 AM (Zz0t1)

127 I admire Sowell greatly but Trump has proven critics of various actions wrong time and again and again and again and again.

Posted by: ... at April 03, 2025 10:10 AM (XZ9Wx)
-

Me, too. But Sowell is imagining a not-far-fetched scenario.

I would like to hear from him what he would do otherwise.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 03, 2025 10:12 AM (IMKWe)

128 Connecticut is one of only four states that I've never been to. Since visiting all 50 is on my bucket list, I'll have to get up there at some point. Since two of the other three -- Rhode Island and Vermont -- are also in New England, I can probably knock those off as well.
Posted by: Bulg at April 03, 2025 09:57 AM (77rzZ)

--

I hear Brattleboro, VT is....interesting.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at April 03, 2025 10:13 AM (PzXaK)

129 118 Tariffs can be harmful if you just apply them to protect your products from the market place. Tariffs can also be useful to fight against countries who use them as described above.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 03, 2025 10:11 AM (VofaG)

=======

When you've got countries like Vietnam and Israel just completely abandoning tariffs towards us, I'd say it's best to see what happens rather than falling back on academic readings of tariffs effects to try and predict what's going to happen.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 03, 2025 10:13 AM (GBKbO)

130
Petrified forest?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 03, 2025 10:12 AM (I955L)

Then, I will partition some land to grow inorganic cotton.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 03, 2025 10:13 AM (Zz0t1)

131 Tariffs. When you've lost Thomas Sowell:

https://tinyurl.com/yaw6mhaf
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 03, 2025 10:05 AM (IMKWe)

Thomas Sowell is a good man, a smart man, but that doesn't mean he's correct about this.

I'm not saying he's wrong but I refuse to play the "appeal to experts" game anymore. We're in the mess we're in because politicians listened to "experts". The US has not made use of tariffs during Sowell's entire adult life. He has a mode of thinking about things and this reflects it.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 03, 2025 10:13 AM (ExV1e)

132
The First Lady now has an ecoli infection which comes with digestive discomfort and insanely high fever. We'll see if an ER trip is in the cards for today.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 03, 2025 10:12 AM (Zz0t1)

You don't fool with an ecoli infection. I spent 5 days in the hospital with one

Posted by: It's me donna at April 03, 2025 10:13 AM (VE6XX)

133 I predict most of the world will come around within 30 days on tariffs. Excepts Dems. They will suddenly be for them once they are dropped.

Posted by: Ripley at April 03, 2025 10:13 AM (GUOwU)

134 116 I admire Sowell greatly but Trump has proven critics of various actions wrong time and again and again and again and again.

Sowell qualified his statement carefully. I'd bet that Trump thinks Sowell is right, but in order to win the chicken contest with the various other countries that currently subject us to their tariffs but don't expect us to subject them to ours, he's got to act as if the tariffs are permanent.

At least that's what I hope he's doing.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 03, 2025 10:14 AM (xCA6C)

135 The First Lady now has an ecoli infection which comes with digestive discomfort and insanely high fever. We'll see if an ER trip is in the cards for today.
Posted by: Sponge

Sorry to hear that. I would take her in E. coli is nothing to mess around with.

Posted by: Bulg at April 03, 2025 10:14 AM (77rzZ)

136 I get "404 not found."
Posted by: Bulg at April 03, 2025 10:08 AM (77rzZ)

Try this:

x.com/i/status/1907630250135273527

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 03, 2025 10:14 AM (ExV1e)

137 It's hideous, yet I can't look away.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 03, 2025 10:15 AM (jc0TO)

138 Loblolly farmers are low-rent. Weed trees. Mostly ground into pellets to be sold to Europeans to burn in furnaces that once burned lovely coal.

Posted by: Downward Spiral at April 03, 2025 10:15 AM (G5+As)

139 Then, I will partition some land to grow inorganic cotton.
Posted by: Sponge

Bold strategy.

Posted by: Bulg at April 03, 2025 10:15 AM (77rzZ)

140 The US has not made use of tariffs during Sowell's entire adult life. He has a mode of thinking about things and this reflects it.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 03, 2025 10:13 AM (ExV1e)
-

If you listened to Sowell for 3 minutes, he's telling us to look at history.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 03, 2025 10:15 AM (IMKWe)

141 *Petrified forest?*

Have always wanted to go, but I'm too scared to visit.

Posted by: Rimshot at April 03, 2025 10:15 AM (dg+HA)

142 When you've got countries like Vietnam and Israel just completely abandoning tariffs towards us, I'd say it's best to see what happens rather than falling back on academic readings of tariffs effects to try and predict what's going to happen.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 03, 2025 10:13 AM (GBKbO)

Agree and believe Trump's intention is to level the tariff field . The balance has been unfair for quite sometime.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 03, 2025 10:15 AM (VofaG)

143 Connecticut is one of only four states that I've never been to. Since visiting all 50 is on my bucket list, I'll have to get up there at some point. Since two of the other three -- Rhode Island and Vermont -- are also in New England, I can probably knock those off as well.
Posted by: Bulg at April 03, 2025 09:57 AM (77rzZ)

If you start in Providence RI, you can do the 3-state capital drive by in 4 1/2 hours (272 miles). Easy Peasy.

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 03, 2025 10:15 AM (Aqu9a)

144 Also, it's my dream to irresponsibly raise beef.
Posted by: Sponge

*********

When you take them on a cattle drive don't strap them into their calf-protection seats?

Let them ride their bikes unsupervised in the cow-de-sac?

Udderlly neglect their education?

Posted by: muldoon at April 03, 2025 10:16 AM (/iMjX)

145 Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 03, 2025 10:12 AM (IMKWe)

The way I see it is the context of this current action by Trump is us paying blackmail to all these other countries for decades under this threat of a "trade war". Trump is upending that, as he does.

As I am often heard to say, Trump is generally criticized for not being a "revolutionary" - but in reality people don't want a revolutionary, they can't stomach it for even three seconds.

Posted by: ... at April 03, 2025 10:16 AM (XZ9Wx)

146 138 Loblolly farmers are low-rent. Weed trees. Mostly ground into pellets to be sold to Europeans to burn in furnaces that once burned lovely coal.

The are also used for paper.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 03, 2025 10:16 AM (xCA6C)

147 Sorry to hear that. I would take her in E. coli is nothing to mess around with.
Posted by: Bulg at April 03, 2025 10:14 AM (77rzZ)

She's on the phone with the Dr. now. We'll see what the recommendations are and act accordingly.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 03, 2025 10:17 AM (Zz0t1)

148 The Smoot-Hawley tariff was such a disaster that Floyd Smoot had to resign from politics and go back home to Hooterville, never to set foot outside of it again.

Posted by: Bulg at April 03, 2025 10:17 AM (77rzZ)

149 Re: the item in the Sidebar about Snow Woke and "The Chosen." I'm not an overtly religious person, but I recently started watching "The Chosen" after listening to a Tucker Carlson interview of the show's lead actor. I've only watched the first season and a few of the second. The acting and the dialogue is incredibly good. Ironically, It has "awakened" me in many ways, but not in a "woke" way. I highly recommend it.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at April 03, 2025 10:17 AM (bNf8H)

150 One other piece of economic news is the loss of jobs according to the recruitment firm Challenger.

A loss of 272K jobs.

216K of which were...federal workers.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 03, 2025 10:18 AM (GBKbO)

151 When you take them on a cattle drive don't strap them into their calf-protection seats?

Let them ride their bikes unsupervised in the cow-de-sac?

Udderlly neglect their education?
Posted by: muldoon at April 03, 2025 10:16 AM (/iMjX)

Willy nilly.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 03, 2025 10:18 AM (Zz0t1)

152 115 ... "Grew up on the Connecticut coast in the late 50's and 60's. Used to be nice but now just another blue shithole. Glad I left for sunnier (and redder) climes."

Yep! I grew up at the same time in Rhode Island, just a ferry boat ride from where JackStraw is now. Wonderful time and place to grow up but I couldn't stomach the politics now and the small town feel is gone. There's a reason I haven't been back for fifty years except for one funeral.

Posted by: JTB at April 03, 2025 10:18 AM (yTvNw)

153 Petrified forest?*

Have always wanted to go, but I'm too scared to visit.
Posted by: Rimshot

**********

Just get stoned first.

Posted by: muldoon at April 03, 2025 10:18 AM (/iMjX)

154 The Smoot-Hawley tariff was such a disaster that Floyd Smoot had to resign from politics and go back home to Hooterville, never to set foot outside of it again.

However, Hooterville had various other attractions.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 03, 2025 10:18 AM (xCA6C)

155
*Tariffs. When you've lost Thomas Sowell:*

But what does Tay Tay think?

Posted by: Your local neighborhood AWFL at April 03, 2025 10:18 AM (dg+HA)

156 A loss of 272K jobs.

216K of which were...federal workers.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 03, 2025 10:18 AM (GBKbO)

So a plus then

Posted by: It's me donna at April 03, 2025 10:18 AM (VE6XX)

157 Trump has killed the market
The sky is falling
If you know what you’re doing
Buy, buy, buy

Posted by: Braenard - some Best Friends are more important than others at April 03, 2025 10:19 AM (cTA10)

158 The Smoot-Hawley tariff was such a disaster that Floyd Smoot had to resign from politics and go back home to Hooterville, never to set foot outside of it again.

However, Hooterville had various other attractions.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 03, 2025 10:18 AM (xCA6C)

World Famous Hotscakes

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 03, 2025 10:20 AM (Aqu9a)

159 Wakes up
Scratches
Looks around
Dang. Damned woodpeckers. If there is any art with woodpeckers in it, I'd buy it and burn it.
Goes looking for coffee.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 03, 2025 10:20 AM (W/lyH)

160 However, Hooterville had various other attractions.
Posted by: Archimedes

Billy Jo, Bobby Jo, Betty Jo, or Lisa Douglas?

Posted by: Bulg at April 03, 2025 10:20 AM (77rzZ)

161
So a plus then
Posted by: It's me donna at April 03, 2025 10:18 AM (VE6XX)

Not when you're a lazy libtard media outlet out to destroy America and hate Trump

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 03, 2025 10:20 AM (Zz0t1)

162 7
Artist: John Frederick Kensett (American, Cheshire, Connecticut 1816–1872 New York)

Date: 1872
----
Fire
He died and didn't have time to put out the fire?

Posted by: Ciampino - very well done detail at April 03, 2025 10:20 AM (sPQoU)

163 157 Trump has killed the market
The sky is falling
If you know what you’re doing
Buy, buy, buy
Posted by: Braenard - some Best Friends are more important than others at April 03, 2025 10:19 AM (cTA10)

====

*looks at history of stock market*
*realizes it has never recovered from a downturn ever*
*sells everything and buys Chicago bonds*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 03, 2025 10:20 AM (GBKbO)

164 Do these ex federal employees have any marketable skills?? Maybe baseline minimum wage jobs??

Posted by: tubal at April 03, 2025 10:20 AM (bn/Ur)

165 grow inorganic cotton.

********

Insects attack those below ground levell.

The roots are all weevil!

Posted by: muldoon at April 03, 2025 10:20 AM (/iMjX)

166 Tariffs. When you've lost Thomas Sowell:

https://tinyurl.com/yaw6mhaf
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 03, 2025 10:05 AM (IMKWe)

------

Lost him might be overselling it. He's simply pointing out potential downsides. There are potential upsides to the plan too, which are unaddressed in that short snip.
We all know a big plan is going to have risks.
The alternative is a hollowed out manufacturing base and dependency on adversarial trade partners to provide necessities for us, which makes us beggars.
I think we're at the point as a country where the risks have to be taken, or we're on a glidepath to 2nd world status. Or insolvency.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 03, 2025 10:20 AM (FCbAQ)

167 Tariffs. When you've lost Thomas Sowell:

https://tinyurl.com/yaw6mhaf
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 03, 2025 10:05 AM (IMKWe)

--

Sowell seems to have two different things he's looking at.

The first is whether tariffs achieve a strategic purpose, and in that he's OK with, as are many of us here. If correcting trade imbalances is the strategy, tariffs are a reasonable tool.

The second is looking back in history and making the case that they were...bad. He mentions trade wars, uncertainty, etc. We who have trained in economics tend to put too much attention on creating static rules/laws/etc and don't always account for ever-changing conditions on the ground. Put more simply - this isn't the 1920s. We're in a different world now and adaptation is required. Besides, something like uncertainty is not ever something that will disappear.

I greatly respect the guy, but he would encourage everyone to think critically about this.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at April 03, 2025 10:21 AM (PzXaK)

168 102 Tariffs. When you've lost Thomas Sowell:
Posted by: Biden's Dog

Eh. He does talk about short term v. extended trade war.

"Watch the complete interview with Dr. Sowell on
@UncKnowledge with Peter Robinson (@P_M_Robinson) on April 15th, 2025."

We shall see how it (PDT tariffs) goes.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at April 03, 2025 10:21 AM (NFX2v)

169 148 The Smoot-Hawley tariff was such a disaster that Floyd Smoot had to resign from politics and go back home to Hooterville, never to set foot outside of it again.
Posted by: Bulg

Floyd and Charlie once ran the Cannonball Express at 11 MPH around Deadman's Curve. The record still stands to this day.

Posted by: Homer Bedloe at April 03, 2025 10:21 AM (G5+As)

170 Dang. Damned woodpeckers. If there is any art with woodpeckers in it, I'd buy it and burn it.
Goes looking for coffee.
Posted by: Diogenes at April 03, 2025 10:20 AM (W/lyH)

Woodpeckers usually attack wood to get at the bugs inside. Maybe you have an infestation and the Woodpecker is trying to help.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 03, 2025 10:21 AM (Zz0t1)

171 Tariffs in a vacuum are bad. But we don’t live in a vacuum. The media and all the hair on fire people conveniently forget the word reciprocal.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 03, 2025 10:22 AM (A+/01)

172 Sooooo ... which one's the 'road not taken' ... ?

Posted by: Dr_No at April 03, 2025 10:22 AM (ayRl+)

173 The SYSTEM hates change... this fact bridges parties, demographics and economic stratas.

Posted by: tubal at April 03, 2025 10:23 AM (bn/Ur)

174 On the bright side there will be some good bargains in the stock market...

Posted by: It's me donna at April 03, 2025 10:23 AM (VE6XX)

175
"God dammit- I want that treeline BOMBED!"

-LTC Kilgore

Posted by: Don Black at April 03, 2025 10:23 AM (AOsQT)

176
????

Loblolly is a key lumber resource East of the Mississippi. It's a shitload of board feet. Approximately a quarter of US wood products. Not a weed. Cash crop.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 03, 2025 10:23 AM (BI5O2)

177 The US has been getting buttf*cked by tariffs from other countries for decades. When America evens the playing field, the world loses it's mind.

Made in the USA will solve most of that, however, taxes will need to remain, unfortunately, as countries will lessen their economic burden by not trading with the US, only to see THEIR economies sink as a result.

Win win.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 03, 2025 10:24 AM (Zz0t1)

178 Tariffs will lead to depression!!!

Really? Germany has had tariffs on cars since WW2. How come they’re not in a multi decade decade depression.

Same with Japan.

Things that make you go hmmmmm

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 03, 2025 10:24 AM (A+/01)

179 Billy Jo, Bobby Jo, Betty Jo, or Lisa Douglas?
Posted by: Bulg

Yes, but you left out Selma and Henrietta Plout!

Posted by: Hubba Hubba! at April 03, 2025 10:24 AM (G5+As)

180 If you listened to Sowell for 3 minutes, he's telling us to look at history.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 03, 2025 10:15 AM (IMKWe)

History is wonderfully informative... up until it isn't. Saying that tariffs had this effect 100 years ago may be true but it doesn't necessarily follow that they'd have the same effect today. The historical world wasn't nearly as interconnected as it is nor was it the case that governments would permit absolutely vital industries to leave their countries entirely.

History taught the French that the Maginot Line was impenetrable.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 03, 2025 10:24 AM (ExV1e)

181 Damned woodpeckers. If there is any art with woodpeckers in it, I'd buy it and burn it.
Goes looking for coffee.
Posted by: Diogenes

***********

You might consider shooting it, decapitating it and plucking all its feathers before burning it.

Posted by: muldoon at April 03, 2025 10:24 AM (/iMjX)

182 I like loblolly pines.

Posted by: Bulg at April 03, 2025 10:25 AM (77rzZ)

183 148 The Smoot-Hawley tariff was such a disaster that Floyd Smoot had to resign from politics and go back home to Hooterville, never to set foot outside of it again.
Posted by: Bulg

Floyd and Charlie once ran the Cannonball Express at 11 MPH around Deadman's Curve. The record still stands to this day.
Posted by: Homer Bedloe at April 03, 2025 10:21 AM (G5+As)

And they lived? Man, what lucky fellow train guys.

Posted by: Zombie Steve Broady, Old '97 near Danville VA at April 03, 2025 10:25 AM (Aqu9a)

184 The CHAIR of U. WI Eau Claire's English Dept., José Felipe Alvergue, overturned a table of info from the UW Republicans yesterday.

I was born in San Salvador, El Salvador, and migrated with my family to the United States at the commencement of El Salvador’s civil war. Growing up on the Mexico/US Border and being a part of the Central American diaspora have informed the nature of my work, which borrows from postlyric, docupoetic, and hybrid compositional practices. As have my experiences of living through the structural inequality, hate, and racial supremacy of Southern California’s political landscape during the late 1990s, including the various examples of xenophobic legislation, police abuse, and the militarization of the border...

My project is of knowing, and in knowing––or returning sentience to the decolonialized––engaging with the ongoing care work of the self in the era of its sublimation into the expansive, polluted power of supremacist monopoly capitalism.

Again, this gibberish was by the CHAIR of the English Dept.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 03, 2025 10:25 AM (xCA6C)

185 Billy Jo, Bobby Jo, Betty Jo, or Lisa Douglas?

Pregame between Lisa's boobies, nail jojojo and finish in Lisa's backdoor...

Posted by: Hunter Bidet at April 03, 2025 10:25 AM (01OnG)

186 19 I don't see Smokey Bear in this one.

Posted by: dantesed at April 03, 2025 09:37 AM (Oy/m2)
----
He's elsewhere looking for his hat, or any other boyscout's hat for that matter.

Posted by: Ciampino - okay then what? at April 03, 2025 10:25 AM (sPQoU)

187 Link to the story at #184.

https://is.gd/AVftlv

Posted by: Archimedes at April 03, 2025 10:25 AM (xCA6C)

188 Kind of curious that Israel hits us with a tariff...when we basically fund their nation.

Bretton Woods assigned the US as the consumer of last resort at the expense of US manufaturing...which was an effective scheme 80 years ago but lost its luster about 40 years in.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 03, 2025 10:25 AM (qwx/I)

189 We who have trained in economics...

Posted by: WitchDoktor at April 03, 2025 10:21 AM (PzXaK)
-

Which is not me.

Fair enough assessment. Here's hoping!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 03, 2025 10:26 AM (IMKWe)

190 We went through the greatest growth in prosperity in the history of the world with tariffs and no income tax.

Posted by: Braenard - some Best Friends are more important than others at April 03, 2025 10:26 AM (cTA10)

191 nga dot gov: On December 14, 1872, Kensett died in New York City, of pneumonia and heart disease contracted while trying to retrieve the body of a friend's wife from the waters off Contentment Island, Connecticut. His passing at the age of fifty-six was considered virtually a national tragedy, and when the contents of his studio were auctioned in 1873 they brought more than $136,000, an astonishing sum for the period. For many of his contemporaries Kensett had represented a kind of artistic epitome in landscape painting.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at April 03, 2025 10:27 AM (NFX2v)

192 We went through the greatest growth in prosperity in the history of the world with tariffs and no income tax.

Posted by: Braenard - some Best Friends are more important than others at April 03, 2025 10:26 AM (cTA10)

But, that was like, 100 years ago, man.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 03, 2025 10:27 AM (Zz0t1)

193 History taught the French that the Maginot Line was impenetrable.

Didn't the Germans just go around it?

(not to mix metaphors)

Posted by: Lance McCormick at April 03, 2025 10:27 AM (1Idb6)

194
Where I think Sowell may be wrong is this.

Trump didn't make the first move in the Tariff Foofaraw.

This is actually the response to countries imposing their tariffs upon us. So, instead of the Initial Action Trump's Tariffs are the Reaction.

My belief is that he'd be fine with Free Trade but it's got to be real Free Trade. Not America gets the Albanian Butt Fuck again.

Also, the Tariffs are being use in a non-Economic Way on countries who have policies we don't like like controlling their borders and preventing drug smuggling.

These Tariff are more like this:

US: Hey, stop doing that! It's hurting our people and costing us money, time, and blood.

Them: Ha ha ha! Fuck you. You can't make us.

US: Okay, fine. You can pay for the privilege of causing us problems by paying for them with tariffs. Have a nice day, asshole!

I could be wrong, but I think this resolves itself without reciprocal escalation.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 03, 2025 10:28 AM (iJfKG)

195 159 Wakes up
Scratches
Looks around
Dang. Damned woodpeckers. If there is any art with woodpeckers in it, I'd buy it and burn it.
Goes looking for coffee.
Posted by: Diogenes

Suppressed .22 bolt rifle with subsonic ammo and a scope.

You can peg him in the ass. Tell him I said “quack.”

Posted by: nurse ratched at April 03, 2025 10:28 AM (VzFgi)

196 The part that your 11th grade history teacher with her degree from Illinois State didn't tell you was that Smoot Hawley also led to a worldwide escalation in tariffs across the board, which will not occur this time. Also pre Bretton Woods so absolutely nothing in common with those times.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 03, 2025 10:28 AM (qwx/I)

197 193 History taught the French that the Maginot Line was impenetrable.

Didn't the Germans just go around it?

(not to mix metaphors)
Posted by: Lance McCormick at April 03, 2025 10:27 AM (1Idb6)

Also the little matter of aircraft.

Posted by: tubal at April 03, 2025 10:28 AM (bn/Ur)

198 History taught the French that the Maginot Line was impenetrable.

Didn't the Germans just go around it?

(not to mix metaphors)

Which is why I favor a complete border wall, not a partial one. They currently don't go to those difficult to access regions? Well, duh, why would you if the easier to access regions are still open. Once they're closed off, though, guess where the coyotes will go.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 03, 2025 10:29 AM (xCA6C)

199 Tariffs in a vacuum are bad.

*********

Yeah, we learned that during the Hoover administration.

Posted by: muldoon at April 03, 2025 10:29 AM (/iMjX)

200 192 We went through the greatest growth in prosperity in the history of the world with tariffs and no income tax.

Posted by: Braenard - some Best Friends are more important than others at April 03, 2025 10:26 AM (cTA10)

But, that was like, 100 years ago, man.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer
——

Let’s do it again.

Posted by: Braenard - some Best Friends are more important than others at April 03, 2025 10:29 AM (cTA10)

201
Also the little matter of aircraft.
Posted by: tubal at April 03, 2025 10:28 AM (bn/Ur)

Or a trebuchet.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 03, 2025 10:29 AM (Zz0t1)

202 Kind of curious that Israel hits us with a tariff...when we basically fund their nation.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 03, 2025 10:25 AM (qwx/I)
-

Israel and the US have a fair trade agreement going back to the 80s. There are 2 exceptions defined by the treaty.

To the best of my understanding from the news, it's not about tariffs. Israel dropped the last of the minor tariffs 2 days ago to meet Trump's deadline. Its about a US trade deficit with any given country. With Israel, the US has a 33% trade deficit.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 03, 2025 10:30 AM (IMKWe)

203 The part that your 11th grade history teacher with her degree from Illinois State didn't tell you was that Smoot Hawley also led to a worldwide escalation in tariffs across the board, which will not occur this time.

Because?

Posted by: Archimedes at April 03, 2025 10:30 AM (xCA6C)

204 Loblolly is a key lumber resource East of the Mississippi. It's a shitload of board feet. Approximately a quarter of US wood products. Not a weed. Cash crop.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 03, 2025 10:23 AM (BI5O2)

Balderdash! The only good wood is black walnut suitable for gun stocks and quality furniture.
/s

Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 03, 2025 10:31 AM (FCbAQ)

205 Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 03, 2025 10:17 AM (Zz0t1)

Would you shoot me an email please?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 03, 2025 10:31 AM (L5An7)

206 Balderdash! The only good wood is black walnut suitable for gun stocks and quality furniture.
/s
Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 03, 2025 10:31 AM (FCbAQ)

"Nothing beats a good piece of hickory."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 03, 2025 10:31 AM (Zz0t1)

207 With Israel, the US has a 33% trade deficit.
Posted by: Biden's Dog

Wow. We must be eating a lot of hummus.

Posted by: Bulg at April 03, 2025 10:31 AM (77rzZ)

208 Trump isn't starting a tariff war.
He's ending one.

Posted by: At least I hope so at April 03, 2025 10:31 AM (dg+HA)

209 >>Dang. Damned woodpeckers. If there is any art with woodpeckers in it, I'd buy it and burn it.

Here ya go!
https://tinyurl.com/y83rsds6

Posted by: Lizzy at April 03, 2025 10:31 AM (Cki93)

210 Darien Gap

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at April 03, 2025 10:31 AM (ftD+B)

211 Trump ran on radical change.

This is radical change.

I won't cry about the potential downsides of this when the status quo was realized shit.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at April 03, 2025 10:32 AM (KbCG3)

212 The CHAIR of U. WI Eau Claire's English Dept., José Felipe Alvergue, overturned a table of info from the UW Republicans yesterday.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 03, 2025 10:25 AM (xCA6C)
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Furniture wars!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 03, 2025 10:32 AM (IMKWe)

213 @203 ... because the UK will not be raising tariffs against France and Germany and Italy and Norway etc. Japan will not be raising tariffs against China and Indochina and Australia etc....though the Japanese may invade Manchuria.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 03, 2025 10:32 AM (qwx/I)

214 Smoot-Hawley by itself wasn’t bad but they passed more and more and killed the goose.

Posted by: Braenard - some Best Friends are more important than others at April 03, 2025 10:33 AM (cTA10)

215 Then, I will partition some land to grow inorganic cotton.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 03, 2025 10:13 AM

I want to open an inconvenience store.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 03, 2025 10:33 AM (I955L)

216 Thigh Gap >> Darien Gap

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 03, 2025 10:33 AM (Aqu9a)

217 Been in the woods near Lake Michigan during sunset. Looks very similar to that. Cool.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at April 03, 2025 10:33 AM (ftD+B)

218 207 With Israel, the US has a 33% trade deficit.
Posted by: Biden's Dog

Wow. We must be eating a lot of hummus.
Posted by: Bulg
______

How many pounds of hummus could some exchange for a fighter jet. Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 03, 2025 10:33 AM (Dv3i1)

219 213 @203 ... because the UK will not be raising tariffs against France and Germany and Italy and Norway etc. Japan will not be raising tariffs against China and Indochina and Australia etc....though the Japanese may invade Manchuria.

You are far more assured of that than I am.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 03, 2025 10:34 AM (xCA6C)

220 *overturned a table of info from the UW Republicans yesterday.*

Did he also use a whip?

Posted by: It'll be Passover soon at April 03, 2025 10:34 AM (dg+HA)

221
I want to open an inconvenience store.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 03, 2025 10:33 AM (I955L)

What an EXCELLENT idea!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 03, 2025 10:34 AM (Zz0t1)

222 IBM covered most of the Hudson Valley.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth

We were covered in Hidden Valley ranch.

Posted by: Midgets in the best kind of porn at April 03, 2025 10:34 AM (JCZqz)

223 Wow. We must be eating a lot of hummus.

Posted by: Bulg at April 03, 2025 10:31 AM (77rzZ)
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I think mostly high tech, in fields from medicine to military.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 03, 2025 10:34 AM (IMKWe)

224 Trump's "Trade War" is like the War on Terror: both wars have been raging for decades. We just refused to recognize or accept that until now.

The USA has been getting raped in the ass with an acid-laced sandpaper dick on trade for 50+ years. We are 30+ trillion in debt, running trillion-dollar trade deficits, and funneling trillions of (borrowed) dollars to foreign countries and governments to help foreigners.

This is not sustainable. We are borrowing money from our crack dealer to buy more crack, while taking out more credit card debt to pay credit card debt, and then giving 50% of our crack and money to the homeless junkie under the bridge.

Posted by: Elric Blade at April 03, 2025 10:34 AM (iFTx/)

225 >>I was born in San Salvador, El Salvador, and migrated with my family to the United States at the commencement of El Salvador’s civil war. Growing up on the Mexico/US Border and being a part of the Central American diaspora have informed the nature of my work, which borrows from postlyric, docupoetic, and hybrid compositional practices. As have my experiences of living through the structural inequality, hate, and racial supremacy of Southern California’s political landscape during the late 1990s, including the various examples of xenophobic legislation, police abuse, and the militarization of the border...

My project is of knowing, and in knowing––or returning sentience to the decolonialized––engaging with the ongoing care work of the self in the era of its sublimation into the expansive, polluted power of supremacist monopoly capitalism.

Translation: Me, me, me, me, me, you racist!!!!!

Posted by: Lizzy at April 03, 2025 10:34 AM (Cki93)

226 How many pounds of hummus could some exchange for a fighter jet. Asking for a friend.

I view hummus as more of a threat than anything else.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 03, 2025 10:34 AM (xCA6C)

227 Didn't the Germans just go around it?

Mostly, but that's the point. The French said "Hohoho, we 'ave zees wonderful line of forts and so we are secure" and the Germans said "Ve haf cars".

Looking at a thing from the past and saying this will never change even though everything around it has changed doesn't work. It's a fine starting point and it may lend insight but it's not the end of the matter.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 03, 2025 10:34 AM (ExV1e)

228 Well, I'm pretty sure Japan won't invade Manchuria again.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 03, 2025 10:34 AM (qwx/I)

229 Because?
Posted by: Archimedes
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Discipline

Posted by: Braenard - some Best Friends are more important than others at April 03, 2025 10:35 AM (cTA10)

230 The CHAIR of U. WI Eau Claire's English Dept., José Felipe Alvergue, overturned a table of info from the UW Republicans yesterday.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 03, 2025 10:25 AM (xCA6C)
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Furniture wars!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 03, 2025 10:32 AM (IMKWe)

May I be of some assistance?

Posted by: Jim "Mattress Mac" McIngvale, Gallery Furniture, I-45 North between Tidwell and Parker, Houston at April 03, 2025 10:35 AM (Aqu9a)

231 228 Well, I'm pretty sure Japan won't invade Manchuria again.

Fair.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 03, 2025 10:35 AM (xCA6C)

232 Would you shoot me an email please?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 03, 2025 10:31 AM (L5An7)

Done.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 03, 2025 10:36 AM (Zz0t1)

233 Because?
Posted by: Archimedes
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Discipline
Posted by: Braenard - some Best Friends are more important than others at April 03, 2025 10:35 AM

Stern discipline.

Posted by: Pam Bondi clad in leather at April 03, 2025 10:36 AM (jc0TO)

234 I think this resolves itself without reciprocal escalation.
Posted by: naturalfake at April 03, 2025 10:28 AM (iJfKG)

I suspect there'll be some escalations. I also suspect that Congress will act to rein in Trump thereby ensuring that the US is the world's designated gimp for eternity.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 03, 2025 10:36 AM (ExV1e)

235 History taught the French that the Maginot Line was impenetrable.

Didn't the Germans just go around it?

(not to mix metaphors)
__________

Yes, it was largely impenetrable. They ended up attacking from the rear once they went around, but by then it was pretty much all over anyway.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at April 03, 2025 10:36 AM (Dm8we)

236 Woodpeckers usually attack wood to get at the bugs inside. Maybe you have an infestation and the Woodpecker is trying to help.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 03, 2025 10:21 AM (Zz0t1)

They peck my damn gutters. And they're clean.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 03, 2025 10:36 AM (W/lyH)

237 If you start in Providence RI, you can do the 3-state capital drive by in 4 1/2 hours (272 miles). Easy Peasy.
Posted by: Count de Monet
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And you've hit the worst part of all three states, although Montpelier less bad than Hartford and Providence. All New England should be seen on two and three digit state highways, avoiding the cities. Budget 8 hours.

Posted by: From about That Time at April 03, 2025 10:36 AM (n4GiU)

238 What an EXCELLENT idea!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 03, 2025 10:34 AM

Shamelessly stolen from The Far Side. 😄

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 03, 2025 10:36 AM (I955L)

239 Hummus is just another variety of bean dip.

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 03, 2025 10:37 AM (Aqu9a)

240 >>I want to open an inconvenience store.

Heh. Make it a Vice Mart - selling cigs, lottery tickets, beer, old-school girly magazines, coffee, doughnuts and cupcakes. . .

Posted by: Lizzy at April 03, 2025 10:37 AM (Cki93)

241
*an acid-laced sandpaper dick*

Ok, now there's an Amazon search that will get you some really strange ads...

Posted by: But I ain't trying it at April 03, 2025 10:37 AM (dg+HA)

242 Wow. We must be eating a lot of hummus.

Posted by: Bulg at April 03, 2025 10:31 AM (77rzZ)
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Actually, Sabra Humus and other salads in the US are manufactured in Virginia. The company is fully owned by Pepsico.

So that's red, white and blue humus for you!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 03, 2025 10:37 AM (IMKWe)

243 It's called artistic license.
Posted by: John Frederick Kensett at April 03, 2025 09:45 AM (Aqu9a)

So what's a art license cost these days?

Posted by: Diogenes at April 03, 2025 10:37 AM (W/lyH)

244 I don’t like the formula Trump used. Having a trade deficit with a country doesn’t in and of itself mean there is unfair trade policies. A country could just make really good products Americans want. Trump shouldn’t be punishing that.

It should be just looking at tariffs and subsidies of counties and reciprocating there.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 03, 2025 10:37 AM (A+/01)

245 We know the media has been lying all this time why should we believe them about tarrifs?

Posted by: Braenard - some Best Friends are more important than others at April 03, 2025 10:38 AM (cTA10)

246
We were covered in Hidden Valley ranch.
Posted by: Midgets in the best kind of porn at April 03, 2025 10:34 AM (JCZqz)

Saw some Rumble ad where they said the main ingredient in a bottle of Hidden Vally Ranch is 98% oil. He mixed all the supposed ingredients in the bottle, then shook it. Amazingly, it looked NOTHING like the bottle of actual Hidden Valley next to it.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 03, 2025 10:38 AM (Zz0t1)

247 Actually, Sabra Humus and other salads in the US are manufactured in Virginia. The company is fully owned by Pepsico.

So that's red, white and blue humus for you!
Posted by: Biden's Dog

Yes, I know. I read an article awhile back that, with the demonization of tobacco, Sabra was getting tobacco farmers to switch to raising chickpeas for their hummus.

Posted by: Bulg at April 03, 2025 10:39 AM (77rzZ)

248
They peck my damn gutters. And they're clean.
Posted by: Diogenes at April 03, 2025 10:36 AM (W/lyH)

Ah....rabies. Weapons free!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 03, 2025 10:39 AM (Zz0t1)

249 IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE THE HOOVER ADMINISTRATION SUCKED!

Posted by: BEN R. at April 03, 2025 10:39 AM (/iMjX)

250 If loblolly were so essential and wonderful, wouldn't Kensett have painted them? The highest use of loblolly is to make the turpentine Kensett used to clean his brushes.

Posted by: Men of Oak-Down With Loblolly! at April 03, 2025 10:40 AM (G5+As)

251 /sock

Posted by: muldoon at April 03, 2025 10:40 AM (/iMjX)

252 I want to open an inconvenience store.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 03, 2025 10:33 AM (I955L)

I heard that in Steven Wrights voice.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 03, 2025 10:40 AM (FCbAQ)

253
So what's a art license cost these days?
Posted by: Diogenes at April 03, 2025 10:37 AM (W/lyH)

$87,500 at the Art Institute.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 03, 2025 10:40 AM (Zz0t1)

254 Heh. Make it a Vice Mart - selling cigs, lottery tickets, beer, old-school girly magazines, coffee, doughnuts and cupcakes. . .
Posted by: Lizzy at April 03, 2025 10:37 AM

Have you ever seen The Teal Housewives of South Boston videos?

"I'm Jackie's Packie. We sell ciggies and beeah. WTF moah do you want?"

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 03, 2025 10:40 AM (I955L)

255 IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE THE HOOVER ADMINISTRATION SUCKED!

Posted by: BEN R. at April 03, 2025 10:39 AM (/iMjX)
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Dam!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 03, 2025 10:40 AM (IMKWe)

256 I heard that in Steven Wrights voice.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 03, 2025 10:40 AM (FCbAQ)

"I bought a can of 'used paint.' It came in the shape of a house."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 03, 2025 10:41 AM (Zz0t1)

257 If Canada wants to be more competitive, they could eliminate our money laundering carbon taxes. No one ever asks where that money goes to. Into a liberal blackhole.

Inter provincial trade barriers could go.

We could use a DOGE to eliminate swaths of sub-humans in government and their regulations.

And of course, we could eliminate our tariffs on the US.

But my leaders are seld serving retards. You can't imagine what that's like.

Posted by: Stateless...81% - mental state clawing up from 10% at April 03, 2025 10:41 AM (jvJvP)

258 They ended up attacking from the rear once they went around, but by then it was pretty much all over anyway.

Newsletter?

Posted by: Pete Buttigieg at April 03, 2025 10:42 AM (xCA6C)

259 Muddy green and red.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 03, 2025 10:42 AM (hCfYJ)

260 The CHAIR of U. WI Eau Claire's English Dept., José Felipe Alvergue, overturned a table of info from the UW Republicans yesterday.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 03, 2025 10:25 AM (xCA6C)
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Saw.a picture of this clown. What an ass.
Do better OofW-EC

Posted by: Diogenes at April 03, 2025 10:43 AM (W/lyH)

261
71 Overheard in the woods one day:

Cedar trees?

Of course I can cedar trees, I'm not blind! What I want to know is what kind of trees they are.

Yew don't know?

Fir what i't's worth, no, not really.

Well THAT'S a beech

Are you telling me or aspen me?

Ha Ha! The oak's on you.. MR Cedars!

Posted by: muldoon at April 03, 2025 09:56 AM (/iMjX)
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Muldoon, you've practically covered all the tree puns!

Posted by: Ciampino - what's left at April 03, 2025 10:44 AM (sPQoU)

262 Yeah, we learned that during the Hoover administration.
Posted by: muldoon at April 03, 2025 10:29 AM (/iMjX)

Lol

Posted by: ... at April 03, 2025 10:44 AM (XZ9Wx)

263 Why does the Chairman of the English Department have a Hispanic name?

Posted by: Bulg at April 03, 2025 10:44 AM (77rzZ)

264 252 I want to open an inconvenience store.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 03, 2025 10:33 AM (I955L)

I heard that in Steven Wrights voice.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 03, 2025 10:40 AM (FCbAQ)

Also could be a great Mitch Hedberg setup.

"I want to open an inconvenience store. The doors automatically close when you walk towards it. The prices are all on the wrong items. And you can only make your payments in wompum."

He did a variation of this joke when he talked about how advertisers used to sell products by saying "Three easy payments of $19.99." I'd like to say three easy payments and one hard as shit payment.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at April 03, 2025 10:44 AM (KbCG3)

265 263 Why does the Chairman of the English Department have a Hispanic name?
Posted by: Bulg at April 03, 2025 10:44 AM (77rzZ)

In HS my French teacher was Italian. With the thickest Italian accent you’ve ever heard. The world works in mysterious ways.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 03, 2025 10:45 AM (A+/01)

266 $87,500 at the Art Institute.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 03, 2025 10:40 AM (Zz0t1)

Dang.
Ill stick to elk.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 03, 2025 10:45 AM (W/lyH)

267 An artist I've heard of Yay! Although I have enjoyed some of the works of the artists which have I haven't heard of This is very nice. Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 03, 2025 10:45 AM (OOtch)

268 Muldoon, you've practically covered all the tree puns!
Posted by: Ciampino - what's left at April 03, 2025 10:44 AM (sPQoU)

'So make like a tree, and get outta here.'

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 03, 2025 10:45 AM (hCfYJ)

269 They ended up attacking from the rear once they went around, but by then it was pretty much all over anyway.

Newsletter?
Posted by: Pete Buttigieg
_________

You ain't doing the attacking. I figure you for more of a catcher than a pitcher.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at April 03, 2025 10:46 AM (Dm8we)

270 With Israel, the US has a 33% trade deficit.
Posted by: Biden's Dog

Wow. We must be eating a lot of hummus.
Posted by: Bulg at April 03, 2025 10:31 AM (77rzZ)

Apparently, Israel's top export is integrated circuits. They also export a lot of diamonds, broadcast equipment, medical instruments, and refined petroleum.

No mention was made of hummus.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 03, 2025 10:47 AM (ExV1e)

271 Muldoon, you've practically covered all the tree puns!
Posted by: Ciampino - what's left at April 03, 2025 10:44 AM (sPQoU)

Someone should set that post to music. They could name it The Treepunny Opera.

Posted by: Bulg at April 03, 2025 10:47 AM (77rzZ)

272 The Dow is down 1520 points.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 03, 2025 10:47 AM (xCA6C)

273 The idea that nobody wants to do manufacturing jobs is fucking bullshit

theres an entire working class of non-college people that would kill to see the manufacturing plant that shut down in their hometown open up again so they can go back to work in high paying jobs instead of cooking meth in their RVs

Posted by: The Unmasked and Unvaxed Ranger - Uplifting The Wagshambas of Freedom at April 03, 2025 10:47 AM (HYKHz)

274 Pine trees?
Why they're the fruit of the forest.
White pine, yellow pine, slash pine, southern pine, loblolly pine, ponderosa pine, longleaf pine, jack pine, lodgepole, Durango, Apache, Arizona, Coulter...

Posted by: Forrest Gump voice at April 03, 2025 10:48 AM (dg+HA)

275 You ain't doing the attacking. I figure you for more of a catcher than a pitcher.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at April 03, 2025 10:46 AM (Dm8we)

Wasn't Chasten? Christen? The one who was 'nursing'?

It's all so confusing. And creepy. Aping the forms. Mockery.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 03, 2025 10:48 AM (hCfYJ)

276 Apparently, Israel's top export is integrated circuits. They also export a lot of diamonds, broadcast equipment, medical instruments, and refined petroleum.

******************

WHERE WILL I GET MY OLIVES NOW

Posted by: Scrunty Karen Looking for an olive to put in her tall glass of red whine at April 03, 2025 10:48 AM (HYKHz)

277 272 The Dow is down 1520 points.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 03, 2025 10:47 AM (xCA6C

You only lose money if you sell.

Buy low.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 03, 2025 10:49 AM (aPY1X)

278 276 WHERE WILL I GET MY OLIVES NOW
Posted by: Scrunty Karen Looking for an olive to put in her tall glass of red whine at April 03, 2025 10:48 AM (HYKHz)

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California?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 03, 2025 10:49 AM (GBKbO)

279 272 The Dow is down 1520 points.

The usual suspects all blame Trump's tariffs, aka "trade war".

Posted by: Archimedes at April 03, 2025 10:50 AM (xCA6C)

280 Wait, they're putting olives in red wine now?

What a stupid time to be alive.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 03, 2025 10:50 AM (hCfYJ)

281 280 Wait, they're putting olives in red wine now?

What a stupid time to be alive.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 03, 2025 10:50 AM (hCfYJ)

=====

What if the red wine is just gin with red food coloring?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 03, 2025 10:50 AM (GBKbO)

282 If we get rising inflation, there is no argument in favor of tariffs that will save Trump politically.

Tariffs as a replacement revenue stream for abolishing existing taxes is an intriguing idea. As an add-on, I'm skeptical.

Surely there are other government-actions causing offshoring (e.g. regulations, taxation) that can be abolished before resorting to tariffs.

Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at April 03, 2025 10:50 AM (V6W16)

283 273 The idea that nobody wants to do manufacturing jobs is fucking bullshit

theres an entire working class of non-college people that would kill to see the manufacturing plant that shut down in their hometown open up again so they can go back to work in high paying jobs instead of cooking meth in their RVs
Posted by: The Unmasked and Unvaxed Ranger - Uplifting The Wagshambas of Freedom at April 03, 2025 10:47 AM (HYKHz)

There is no such thing as a labor shortage. There’s a shortage of people willing to work hard jobs for $9.25 an hour. Pay a decent wage and you’ll never see a shortage of workers again.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 03, 2025 10:50 AM (A+/01)

284 The Dow is down 1520 points.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 03, 2025 10:47 AM (xCA6C

You only lose money if you sell.

Buy low.

I have no intention of selling. I'm only wondering when to buy.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 03, 2025 10:51 AM (xCA6C)

285 >>Have you ever seen The Teal Housewives of South Boston videos?

"I'm Jackie's Packie. We sell ciggies and beeah. WTF moah do you want?"

LOL, love that!
Somehow missed them during my time in MA.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 03, 2025 10:51 AM (Cki93)

286 What if the red wine is just gin with red food coloring?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 03, 2025 10:50 AM (GBKbO)

RED DYE #40?!? Are you trying to kill me in thirty years?!?!

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 03, 2025 10:51 AM (hCfYJ)

287 I have no intention of selling. I'm only wondering when to buy.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 03, 2025 10:51 AM (xCA6C

Today would be good. Before everyone realizes the fire sale and starts buying deals.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 03, 2025 10:51 AM (aPY1X)

288 Ideally every tariff dollar brought in should be sent back to taxpayers. It would be popular politically and mitigate the inflation aspect.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 03, 2025 10:52 AM (A+/01)

289 The DOW shouldn't be over 40,000 anyway......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 03, 2025 10:52 AM (Zz0t1)

290 ICE arrested.30 guys working for a roofing company in Washington State.
Whew! Glad I got mine done.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 03, 2025 10:52 AM (W/lyH)

291 287 I have no intention of selling. I'm only wondering when to buy.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 03, 2025 10:51 AM (xCA6C

Today would be good. Before everyone realizes the fire sale and starts buying deals.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 03, 2025 10:51 AM (aPY1X)

======

Just keep buying on the regular schedule.

And then, when the market has recovered, buy put options for the QQQs as your hedge against the next downturn.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 03, 2025 10:52 AM (GBKbO)

292 But my leaders are self serving retards. You can't imagine what that's like.

Posted by: Stateless...81% - mental state clawing up from 10% at April 03, 2025 10:41 AM (jvJvP)

You do realize most of us live in the US, right?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 03, 2025 10:52 AM (ExV1e)

293 The USA has been getting raped in the ass with an acid-laced sandpaper dick on trade for 50+ years.

I...don't see the issue here. Of course you're going to pay for service like that!

Also, where can I sign up?

Posted by: Pete Buttigieg at April 03, 2025 10:53 AM (JCZqz)

294 I trust Trump.

Should be a bumper sticker

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 03, 2025 10:53 AM (aPY1X)

295 LOL, love that!
Somehow missed them during my time in MA.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 03, 2025 10:51 AM

Glad you escaped. I'm working on it. In the meantime...

https://youtu.be/SQoTlVgmPK8

NSFW. At all.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 03, 2025 10:53 AM (I955L)

296 ... and refined petroleum.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 03, 2025 10:47 AM (ExV1e)
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Huh???????

Wow! And the price of gasoline here is through the roof!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 03, 2025 10:54 AM (IMKWe)

297 ICE arrested.30 guys working for a roofing company in Washington State.

—

What about the other 17,000?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 03, 2025 10:54 AM (A+/01)

298 I trust Trump.

Should be a bumper sticker
Posted by: AlaBAMA

Good way to get your car keyed. Or worse.

Posted by: Bulg at April 03, 2025 10:54 AM (77rzZ)

299 The Dow is down 1520 points.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 03, 2025 10:47 AM (xCA6C)

People report these things like they believe the market is rational and free of manipulation.

Hold fast.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 03, 2025 10:55 AM (ExV1e)

300 98 I trust Trump.

Should be a bumper sticker
Posted by: AlaBAMA

Good way to get your car keyed. Or worse.
Posted by: Bulg at April 03, 2025 10:54 AM (77rzZ

Only people getting keyed around here have Save the Trees bumper stickers.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 03, 2025 10:55 AM (aPY1X)

301 Timing markets is impossible. Just buy and hold for 30 years. You’ll be wealthy. It’s the easiest strategy there is.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 03, 2025 10:55 AM (A+/01)

302 Biden's Dog, what's the shekel worth these days compared to the dollar?

Posted by: Bulg at April 03, 2025 10:55 AM (77rzZ)

303 None of the economic nor societal distortions foisted on Americans would have been possible without an untethered currency. A remarkable advantage turned deftly into a disadvantage.

Remember Vice-Grips? Just one example. They were made in a small town, DeWitt, Nebraska. Now maybe working at the Vice-Grip factory isn’t the most glamorous job in the world, but it paid the bills, provided needed tax revenue for the town and the state. Also many feeder industries providing materials and transportation, advertising, the list is endless.

All of that’s gone now. What replaces it? In many cases, gambling, drugs, a different kind of Vice Grip. Dollar Stores. Despair, ruined marriages. Lost wages, lost revenue. City services. Pensions .. the list is endless.

The expert economists tell us this is a good deal for America.

Posted by: Common Tater at April 03, 2025 10:55 AM (qQhFt)

304 Hispanics ( of some sort) did our roof last year… local company, Hispanic crew. They were good, no denying the job they did.

Posted by: tubal at April 03, 2025 10:56 AM (eOT8t)

305 Biden's Dog, what's the shekel worth these days compared to the dollar?

Posted by: Bulg at April 03, 2025 10:55 AM (77rzZ)
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https://tinyurl.com/4vkadpft

Gotta go!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 03, 2025 10:57 AM (IMKWe)

306 Investors are moving their money around is what is going on. Sheesh…

Posted by: tubal at April 03, 2025 10:57 AM (eOT8t)

307 The usual suspects all blame Trump's tariffs, aka "trade war".
Posted by: Archimedes at April 03, 2025 10:50 AM (xCA6C)

The usual suspects said that Trump was a Russian puppet, that Hunter's laptop wasn't real, that Joe was sharp as a tack, that global temperature fluctuations are the greatest threat to life on Earth, and that growing your hair out lets you become a woman.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 03, 2025 10:57 AM (ExV1e)

308 Apparently, Israel's top export is integrated circuits. They also export a lot of diamonds, broadcast equipment, medical instruments, and refined petroleum.
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Notice that is coincidentally everything you would need to stand up a fully operational Weather Machine.

Posted by: ... at April 03, 2025 10:58 AM (XZ9Wx)

309 There is no such thing as a labor shortage. There’s a shortage of people willing to work hard jobs for $9.25 an hour. Pay a decent wage and you’ll never see a shortage of workers again.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 03, 2025 10:50 AM (A+/01)

What there is is raging inflation, which is sending labor prices spiraling out of control. The costs for unskilled labor these days are insane.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 03, 2025 10:58 AM (l3YAf)

310 Hispanics ( of some sort) did our roof last year… local company, Hispanic crew. They were good, no denying the job they did.
Posted by: tubal at April 03, 2025 10:56 AM (eOT8t)

There are 42 homes in my little neighborhood. Half have had their roofs.done in the last two years. Only ever saw one white guy on the crews. All the rest hispanic.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 03, 2025 10:58 AM (W/lyH)

311 I had my roof done recently. White dude sales guy. White dude foreman. White dude post installation rep. Everyone else, 5 ft 3 Hondurans or Guatemalans or whatever.

But holy fuck they were on the job at 7am and went to 6:30 pm. Like machines. I had to say I was impressed.

Did they do a good job? No clue. For all I know the roof will fall apart in 10 years. But I’ll almost certainly be out of the house by then anyway.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 03, 2025 10:58 AM (A+/01)

312 Sabra is good hummus….

Posted by: tubal at April 03, 2025 10:58 AM (eOT8t)

313 Surely there are other government-actions causing offshoring (e.g. regulations, taxation) that can be abolished before resorting to tariffs.
Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at April 03, 2025 10:50 AM (V6W16)

Contact your member of Congress then.

Also, should we consider bombing any country which has a pre-existing tariff against us? That would be all of them.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 03, 2025 10:59 AM (ExV1e)

314 Black kid stabs and kills white kid at a track meet in Plano, Tx.

No national coverage.

Initial reports are there was an incident between the 2 the week before. The black student sat under the white kid's school tent and refused to move. "Make me." The white kid grabbed the black kid's backpack to move it and the black kid pulled a knife and stabbed the white kid.

Is this where we burn cities down?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 03, 2025 10:59 AM (Zz0t1)

315 vise

I can't help it

Posted by: Don Black at April 03, 2025 11:00 AM (AOsQT)

316 The Left: CEOs are all over-paid
Also the Left: Everyone should be paid at least $15 an hour
And also the left: We support the working class

Trump: How about tariffs that will force companies to cut CEO salaries and bring back jobs that pay $15 an hour without needing a college degree?

The Left: Americans have a Constitutional right to cheap stuff from China! Also, that's racist!!

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 03, 2025 11:00 AM (lEdS5)

317 309 What there is is raging inflation, which is sending labor prices spiraling out of control. The costs for unskilled labor these days are insane.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 03, 2025 10:58 AM (l3YAf)

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The Trump admin announced that it has already actively deported 100K people.

That doesn't include the 500K temporary emergency asylum claims that they've started repealing.

And migration in has come to a standstill.

Without accounting for any voluntary deportations.

That's going to have an effect on a lot of prices.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 03, 2025 11:00 AM (GBKbO)

318 There’s a shortage of people willing to work hard jobs for $9.25 an hour. Pay a decent wage and you’ll never see a shortage of workers again.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 03, 2025 10:50 AM (A+/01)

Isn't minimum wage $500/hr now?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 03, 2025 11:00 AM (ExV1e)

319 The usual suspects all blame Trump's tariffs, aka "trade war".

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This would be a good time for me to say that Rand Paul is a fucking brain damaged horseface

Say Randy, you dumb useless fuck, if you see yourself standing shoulder to shoulder with Kane the Pedophile and Mitch the Demented Picodick, might be a good idea to reflect on whose side you're really on

Posted by: The Unmasked and Unvaxed Ranger - Uplifting The Wagshambas of Freedom at April 03, 2025 11:00 AM (HYKHz)

320
Say Randy, you dumb useless fuck, if you see yourself standing shoulder to shoulder with Kane the Pedophile and Mitch the Demented Picodick, might be a good idea to reflect on whose side you're really on
Posted by: The Unmasked and Unvaxed Ranger - Uplifting The Wagshambas of Freedom at April 03, 2025 11:00 AM (HYKHz)

Agreed

Posted by: It's me donna at April 03, 2025 11:01 AM (VE6XX)

321 Functional minimum wage where I live is 16-17 $/hr…..

Posted by: tubal at April 03, 2025 11:01 AM (eOT8t)

322 The Trump admin announced that it has already actively deported 100K people.

Just 29.9 million more to go!!

Posted by: ... at April 03, 2025 11:02 AM (XZ9Wx)

323 Functional minimum wage where I live is 16-17 $/hr…..
Posted by: tubal at April 03, 2025 11:01 AM (eOT8t)

So, you're getting extremely high quality goods and services at a fair price, I take it?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 03, 2025 11:02 AM (Zz0t1)

324 113 I'd like to start an inorganic tree farm. Also, it's my dream to irresponsibly raise beef.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 03, 2025 10:08 AM (Zz0t1)
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You grow fossilized trees. Fossilized seeds are tough to germinate though.

How high are you wanting to raise that beef? Cedar on the left, the two tall trees, that high?

Posted by: Ciampino - spherical cows? at April 03, 2025 11:02 AM (sPQoU)

325 Monkey thread has arrived.

Posted by: Gouverneur Morris at April 03, 2025 11:02 AM (J8OCH)

326 321 Functional minimum wage where I live is 16-17 $/hr…..
Posted by: tubal at April 03, 2025 11:01 AM (eOT8t)

Same. That’s what fast food pays.
But at the same time a decent 1 bedroom apartment is $1100-1200.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 03, 2025 11:02 AM (A+/01)

327 323 Functional minimum wage where I live is 16-17 $/hr…..
Posted by: tubal at April 03, 2025 11:01 AM (eOT8t)

So, you're getting extremely high quality goods and services at a fair price, I take it?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 03, 2025 11:02 AM (Zz0t1)

Oh no, just some to show up most of the time….

Posted by: tubal at April 03, 2025 11:03 AM (eOT8t)

328 The Left nearly killed Paul and he's like "Sure but they have a lot of good ideas..."

Posted by: ... at April 03, 2025 11:03 AM (XZ9Wx)

329 Suppressed .22 bolt rifle with subsonic ammo and a scope.

You can peg him in the ass. Tell him I said “quack.”
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 03, 2025 10:28 AM (VzFgi)

Now just a minute there, Little Lady! Two weeks ago you said that only Daisy Air Rifle would do!

Posted by: RI Red at April 03, 2025 11:05 AM (9xVkY)

330 The same Wall Street that has been raping the American worker for the last 40 years ...
The same Wall Street that has destroyed the American middle class and merchant class for the last 40 years ...
The same Wall Street that has been bribing the media and politicians to hide all that from Americans for the last 40 years ...

Is now telling the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth about Trump's economic policies.

Or, maybe, just maybe, they are all lying to you again?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 03, 2025 11:05 AM (lEdS5)

331 If you believe your government can print more dollars in the last 5 years or so than all the dollars previously …. without nuking the economy ….

You might he a leftist asshat. America has had the purchasing power of the currency decimated.

But it could be much, much worse, most if not all countries around the world have seen revaluations and outright repudiation and renege on sovereign bonds, the whole nine yards, over the years.

Posted by: Common Tater at April 03, 2025 11:06 AM (qQhFt)

332 120
The best dating app for trees?

Timber.

Posted by: Groan at April 03, 2025 10:11 AM (dg+HA)
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Well palms are best for dates.

Posted by: Ciampino - Looking for dates at April 03, 2025 11:07 AM (sPQoU)

333 310. There are 42 homes in my little neighborhood. Half have had their roofs.done in the last two years. Only ever saw one white guy on the crews. All the rest hispanic.
Posted by: Diogenes

Under what licensed contractor? Someone has a license, and allegedly has insurance and workers comp covering those workers.

Have one fall off the roof or get electrocuted. Builders will often employ subs to subs because it gets them off the hook for some liability.

But doesn't necessarily free a homeowner from some liability.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at April 03, 2025 11:08 AM (NFX2v)

334 The best dating app for trees?

Timber.

Posted by: Groan at April 03, 2025 10:11 AM (dg+HA)

thatch.com

Posted by: ... at April 03, 2025 11:08 AM (XZ9Wx)

335 They killed Tom Seaver!
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Other than the day he passed, has there been any other mention of Tom Seaver on AoS?

Posted by: Crusader at April 03, 2025 11:17 AM (TN0g+)

336 "Jensen car stereo speakers, back in the day."
spark o matic. co ax or tri ax?

Posted by: cmeat at April 03, 2025 12:31 PM (6+aIJ)

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